12 Episode results for "Hans Meyer"
315: The Rickies (October 2020)
"Hello and welcome to connected episode three hundred and fifteen is made possible this week bar sponsors t mystery hover and pinged him. My name is Stephen Hackett and I'm joined by Mr Mike Hurley. Hello, buddy hi, we're doing this again. We're ricky and again like three weeks ago I feel I can't believe it. I. Bet it's not the last time. This you we'll see we'll see how that goes. I guess we are also joined by Mr Federico Vitucci hello. Hi How much money would you want for me like what if I pay you and we skip to the end and a win? A thousand like twenty grant. Yeah winning. and. Then you can you can you can win is that what you're asking you WanNa win would you would you prefer a bad like a wire transfer people wire transfer for that kind of money pay I would really. Fees. Yeah. The fees terrible. Yeah I. Don't know. Maybe we maybe just suck it up and pay twenty grand and that's just for me by the way I don't know what Steven wants. Yeah. Yeah. No pain. Steven Steven doesn't like money. Told me a few minutes ago. He doesn't care about now. That's hard to argue against right because if I say I do care about money. I. Sound like a jerk. The show's over. So let me read these three ads and then I get paid for those and then you pay Mike. Mike wins by a landslide and we all go home. No, we're not GONNA do that we're GONNA do the Ricky's i. we have some follow up. So we spoke about Ryan's home screen we had lots of questions. About his home screen. Had A Harry Potter game that we didn't know what it was is a. Match three puzzle or like candy crush. I guess that's Harry Potter themed True Story as a Federico you asked me to take a screen shot an iphone se for something, and my wife has an SEC. So I grabbed it and made the screen shots and she had this game on her home screen. What it spreads backed it was the most recently installed APP. It was like the last one in the grits the. Everywhere. Did you Oscar how found about it was from Ryan? She set from Ryan I didn't ask her she was busy and like. No. She told him not. She texts me so like yeah I heard from. Ryan. About the Harry Potter. Game. So. There's that. So Ryan is the most specific type of influencers. Justin Harry Potter. Games. Yeah, he's on the payroll. Big Big Harry Potter money. Big tumbled victims door. Big hogwarts. And he said books is in my darkest moment to read more especially in the moments where might check twitter. He wants to read more. I'm annoyed about this answer. Okay. Because twitter is on your doc I saw recently which I don't understand but please pleasing to me. Yes you swan my most used applications put the Senate patiently Y. Ooh, look at me on of 'em over twitter I've left twitter again I haven't let her again. I only tweet with the replies from friends. Now My name's Steven I do do that when. West's political. Let's up. Is this true Stephen Are you one of those people tweeted politics? Yes. Because I got tired of why do tweet about PA? Yeah. Why didn't you just not do that What can dislikes keep that like not do that more. Better until way them did you anyway why don't like about Ryan answers it makes us will seem like bad people making fun of him and I think. We are bad people but I think it's unfair to categorize us as people in no way to say that ceases books is in my dogs and encouragement to read more especially in the moments when one of voice check to throw the news. So that makes it like we were making fun of him announcing this. Also. Is that me he's reading like one paragraph at a time and then closing the book advocate like. He reads reads books in two hundred and eight characterizing hormones. That's right. That's good. Even if it's halfway through word he just. Stops. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes, the end of this is one of the slash for some reason he finds out later with them. To be fairly, we make fun of him to an extent by really reads a lot and he's really fast like is really fast reader. So maybe the iphone doc thing is is secret actually I feel like we just don't get. It shouldn't make fun because him his reading skills make your editing foster. So we can make fun but you like if I was Ryan not be like, Oh, I've read slow in now because I stopped reading so it's going to take longer for me to read the review. Right Right, right. Well, then I guess also my my payments will be. We'll see. Yeah He's only editing in line at the grocery store for three minutes at a time. Look Ryan is is a really fast reader is an amazing editor and maybe the fun thing actually works and we just don't get it maybe we are mad we try it I do think I'm about. So I don't read at all along Stein goes only progress to be made. Then you are one of the best people. I don't read very much or all. It makes me a bad person. Well to an. Extent. To accent the Ryan. Yes to that were bad. Very true. We got a lot of feedback about sea lions and seals a pick this link out for mark talking about the differences between them. There's a lot of differences the I think the easiest one is spot is at sea lions have small flaps for outer ears. and. The earless quote earless seals lack external ears altogether. So if if it has ears is a sea lion. These are not just like sue sea lions that they just chop. That's horrible and in chopping the years, they also dropped a few vowels from the so like. Being. Chopped the years and we drop a few characters and there's a new animal look it's on a government website it must be true. See. That's all makes me really skeptical especially because it seems to be a North American government website. So it's like podcasting the only people who your friends can reply. Sea Lions left are Brown bark loudly. Wait Wa. Like. that. What just happen. You GotTa do something with your office space. That is a skill. Good. Didn't know you had. A one and done. Walk on news flippers. Weight that the cult flippers. The lags called flippers well, it's not like legs really legs just flippers. You know yeah. Little. flippy guys. Little you. Thong Sandals for sea lions yeah. Okay well, thank you the person who sent this up marking. Thank you mark for the. Follow up. We appreciate it. STARLING ON TWITTER HAD A. An idea about maybe federico your strong distaste for bubble tea maybe you were affected by being so close to the insect images, maybe your brain sort of. Fill in the blanks I'm a fine. The problem is that it looks like there's a few bugs in there. But I made a promise like if you remember the show, I was very open to the idea of actually trying bubble tea as told Mike I told Michael Look you've gotta make tribal t wait a second and. Literally. Zero. Memory of you being open in any way to try and. Very. Open to the idea I was like, yeah I'm always open to try new things especially things look what is causing. This whole gaslight. What's happening? Okay. What is coming? On the show, you can go back and listen if you want to I said I'm very open to new things especially bubbly. because. I will get you to try it then. Why no all right. Great. In you should know better than to. Assume that I don't want to try things. I should know better angus yeah. So we'll. We'll try it at some point startling. Listener, Jason Not, Jason Snell. Listener Jason has made an amazing website called the Jeremy's gazette. And it is a full catalogue of the Jeremy's. And the scores is that Jeremy's look? Mitch fills right and what's so great about this is it's not just the years in schools. What. Jason has done is go through enlist every guests that, Federico, made about all of the Emoji even before finalising one which I think is like the pro move but did you guys read the description? Days rates. Can we we on the show? For the recovery, the Italian Renaissance Man and visionary is the philosopher of a generation. We mere mortals just leaving the world that he imagines. Stephen Academic early are tyrants whose ward view is limited to definitions and standards. Yes. Yes. It didn't say yes, you said yes. I that's why come. They cannot see the visionaries genius, the visionary and the tyrant that is excellent named for a band by the way, the visionary and the area tyrants so good visionary and these are the tyrants. You. Come together to debate on how to interpret the icons, our world, the visionary money I. In the tyrants adjudicate this is This is a record of these altercations. I'm not really sure why why is this way I like it? It's funny but I don't know how we became tyrannical in. Its obviously someone who seem troops. This is why you shouldn't do this right 'cause look what you to Federico, the things that you draw up his brain. No No. This is a just backs. E went back and recorded all of our. Conversations and guesses and wrong picks. It is worth knowing that Jason has. Coded this in such a way which I actually think is the right way to do it that it displays the EMOJI. So if you're not running a version of IOS on Mac os that is with the current set of Emojis if you're not on fourteen point to, for example, when you go to the webpage, this year's Jeremy's they don't render but the previous he is do but as the Emoji get added or as you update your system they will be but what it would allow you to do is to currently see these which sequences whether applicable. So you can see like bear and snowflake which makes pola. They. See One error where magic wand says that it's wrong but he actually said, magic wand. So. You fix that. Yeah it's red but says. Magic Wand. Any thread and below says The Magic Wand I assume that's a bug follow writer yeah yeah. Yeah I will follow the Jeremy. While we're talking about EMOJI. There was an update to Iowa's fourteen point two which changed the mosque wearing emoji. Yes. So previously, the mosque wearing emoji was is currently like a character that the emoji character underneath the mosque kind of looks upset right? Because the person is sick presumably or And they're sad. Well now the happy that there's a pandemic side say it's that's the reason. I think Apple's made us change here. Basically putting these smiling face emoji behind the mosque because, hey, wearing a mask is a good thing. It is your civic duty to where a mosque. Is. Did you T for you and to keep yourself in the people you care about healthy? So where that mosque? If you don't I mean really if you listen to this show and don't wear a mosque come to Siam disappointed in, you just want you to know that if you have a problem with that, keep it to yourself but I'm telling you how I feel So where where mosque, you should always wear a mosque when you're on Publican around the people, it's not difficult. It's actually really easy to do I do every single day as I'm sure my co host said do as well but anyway, they made a happy face emoji behind the mosque which I think is very good move because we should be encouraging as a good thing a bad thing. You know it's funny during the lockdown few months ago I once went to the grocery store nearby and I had like a Hoodie on and had a mask on and gloves. And there was this idiot in the grocery store without a mask, and so I told him, can you actually put on a mask please and these idiot started with me and that was a whole thing and then the the store owner guy actually kicked him out so that The. The same thing happened again a few weeks ago but I was actually wearing like a t-shirt without gloves. And so you could see all of my tattoos. and. So there was this person was like I looked. And I was like, can you? Please worry mask inside the store. And like you know when people like they turn and you can tell that they're upset but then they look at U.. S.. News. And I was like with my arms crossed and you could see that the two of my are my hand is like each turned. Anyone's younger than me. I think he turned any erectile Oh. This guy wants to pick up a fight and then he stopped look at my tattoos and it's like, yeah, you're right. Yeah you you have enough tattoos now to someone who would be sensitive to such a thing you could be seen as imposing yet which just which is Kinda. Silly right because he's just like it's not a Saint Law granting gang violence or anything. You should tell them how much you care about I always ops that that was something straight. Yeah. Wait until next to a up to the face, get the full Mike Tyson. No, not up to defy I really dislike suits. And also like big like big large central type neck twos but something on the side I'm thinking about. It depends. Yeah. A few ideas by yeah. I just saw that was finding please wear masks don them like the idiot at the Grocery Store Avenue idea for that had to. have it like a person. And you pull your beard out and they can like. Like they're trying to get out. With the beard. A. Little bigger. Yeah. Like where's Waldo but if your body It's a good idea. Interesting. So last last episode. I. We spoke a little bit about a sticky widgets, which is a widget for current sticky notes because actually gotten so many updates. Unreal. This is. Just, like a million funds then now but I saw. At the I wanted to recommend to people is called scribble it but it Hans Meyer it is a widget APP that uses pencil kiss. So the native pencil. Features in IOS and ipad Os to let you draw your own widgets. So you can also draw over a photos to so you basically can like if you want, you could do you leave notes for yourself, but you could also design little things and stuff like that. You could. So I thought that was kind of cute. Why would you up but I think the pro move is that you download on your ipad he used the Apple Pencil to draw the widgets. Then you can export them to files and put them on your iphone. See. It's also has one of my favorite silly out. Of all times good. The S now I always remember this is the spice girls s, but maybe that just makes me like ages me all. Let me look. But like that was when I was when I was younger when used to use s to write spice girls or whatever or s club seven tolerantly is the spice goats as yes. Yes. I think that you have to be a certain age to think that that's the thing but you'll. Know this s when you see it, this is this is what becky used the APP icon and I think it is hilarious So yeah. So really fun that lap again, it's like there are lots of little cute and funny but also useful which applications at the moment, and this is an avant add to that list federal complete you agreed to me on the spice girls s thing because I reckon I might be on my own Call by Tony in the chat though Oh put in the in the notes yes it'd be and I are huge spice girls fans from back in the day. Especially Syria obviously She she used to dance. Choreography and. used. Spice. Goes. To, I won't accept any of our answer to that I mean not as good as Sylvia, of course, or as Korea graft obvious. Obviously don't movement obviously while I was. Reading you want. What I want. Yeah. Because If you WANNA be weren't from yeah. That was good thing. Good Times. He owed I really really want Mike's TV OS review. I just a shame. We don't have time for it today. Really. Yes. Such a shame also ready. I was ready to talk about four K. Youtube and stuff like that. I. Had all taken care of So now we're just GONNA have to wait a couple weeks because we have an apple event. Such shame. This is. Unacceptable on. So many levels I am wrapping up work done we just don't have them for. For All were for all we know yours doesn't actually exist now done with you have shared no previous no snippets no screen shots with us keep a close to the chest. Because you've done nothing you you have done nothing argue done for all I. Know You've done nothing more than production done. This summer is is throw a bunch of balloons around and pop with the needle towards all I did was helped raise foreign and fifty six thousand dollars children. Aka through some balloons around. Yeah Yes. Yes I saw Don man well, I said this because I knew you were going to reply with that. So I would you did you a favor because now you get to mention. While you got. That We. See your the really good one at the three of us. Yes. that's the that's the truth. Well I am the most caring individual for sure ever or just out of the three of us all of the three of us, right? Clearly. Yeah again, thank you to everybody. Injured is an incredible way to finish off fifty six. It's wild. Thank you. But yeah maybe. US review in a couple of weeks we'll see. Yeah, it's been a weird. Sort of we're fall. We had the ricky's and then the event. Jeremy's our during the Ricky's again just. We have an event and we have iphones than we have the break and more iphones than another ricky's and another event you be thirty vet. I. Don't hold your host prediction I'm sorry I notice boil the Ricky's maybe it's Yeah. Actually that could come up could Minnesota no gas local we'll find out. Let's take a break and then I will quickly read the rules and we will not argue about them. Ford. quickly, read the All right. We'll see we'll see how that goes. 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Winner who should be called keynote chairman from the previous Ricky's gets to pick first second place winner picks second annual winners rollover to preserve that order between nineteen annual winner gets to go first CETERA. So that's for different day order of the Appalachian Ricky's goes based on the previous apple event and the loser goes last. So last time Federico, one might came in second and I lost again because of a coin toss a never win coin tosses. To earn any points everything written down in the prediction document must come true no half points may be awarded in any round and picks cannot be reused. One point is awarded for any pick deemed correct in the first two rounds. Two points will be awarded for correct picks in the risky pick round. If you're risky pick is wrong. You lose a point and the two other host must agree that your pick is risky. The winner of the regular in risky picks must be granted access to the annual event chairman twitter account, whichever applies and we'll retain access to another winner is named loser of the non graded flexes must compensate the winner of the flexes by donating to the charity of the winners choice the amount the donation is twenty five dollars per wrong flexi made by the loser. In case of a tie, the ratio of correct incorrect flex will be taken into account. Each host must make a minimum of five Flexi picks and the money must be donated on air. Last Time Federico won the flexes I lost, and I donated money to an animal shelter in Atlanta. Live on the air I didn't do well as time is what I'm saying. Now well at all? No you did actually the worst because you lost everything you're lost everything most but today I will regain my sweet sweet victory. When are you going to regain you you? You didn't gain sweet sweet victory. Can you Federico How do you feel about the prospect that you may or you may lose the title that you'd has gained already I'm feeling pretty good because I know that I will win everything once again. See that wasn't really answer that this is all the charade doing here is like, what's the point? Well? The the thing that I'm most excited about boys. Is. This event. Could make me win the whole year baby. How because the twenty my twenty twenty annual prediction pex own based on what happens next week and if I win both of them, I have looked it up. When he think let's see why what's what was in your twenty iphone will feature at least one five Gi Fund, and the Nachon an eye on the iphone physically smaller and at least one of the twenty twenty iphones. That would make him back to bite you. We'll see I've got it. All right a go to override and it could come back to buy all right and yeah, you went heavy on the iphone event is what we're saying. Yeah but that's a good one to go heavy on yeah I. Think so so let's start with round one federico you go first Okay So My My first big is about the obviously about the IPHONE and specifically designed the design of the new iphones. So I picked that at least one of the new iphone models what carry a new design inspired by the I pro or iphone four, and basically just says, we argued last time the flat sides is key here. So all the rooms are saying that the iphone twelve We'll go back to that sort of that kind of industrial design with flat sides. Reminiscent of the IPAD, pro and the iphone four and the iphone five. So abandoning the rounded edges in favor of the flat edges taking from the IPAD pro, which we also saw come to the I pair air last month. So I guess the idea is that Will carry over to the iphone line as well this year. I. Have a question for this is not this is not a question to change your pick but just I wanna know what you think because you said at least one of the new iphones, which is just a small way to make the pig. But do you think that there is a possibility didn't may introduce a phone that doesn't have flat sides. No okay. I'm just wanted to check I I would make the pick the same way as you. Right. You go to go to go to cover your bases. Yeah especially because like what if the new design is only for the iphone twelve pro like I don't think they will do it but they? They could. They could say, well, Guy from twelve I don't think they will but they could say while the iphone twelve with the same design in the twelve pro as entirely news I don't think it makes much sense. But in the context of writing down the pick I, think it makes more sense to phrase it this way it's not very passionate avoid this one. Isn't. Stop we? Over. Think you know what you know what I don't care because I'm I you of all people shouldn't be allowed to come on my path. I think me of all people should be because I'm always the one who is accused Shaq used I I am re phrasing, my peak. The new. IPHONES. Oh, up in the anti carrying. The new IPHONES will carry a new design inspired by the Abbot pro and I four parentheses flat sides you shouldn't lying yourself to be so easily changed. You know well, well, I it's not like you manipulate means. More like I need to assure my dominance in. Deciding in my future and my destiny therefore, I chose to be a man of how your passion and rephrase my you know if i. Get everything I want from this recuse which I'm not feeling particularly comfortable with at the moment. But if I win these ricky's, there's a possibility federico the I'm going to take it all from you next week nitpicking nothing I could take your annual tile on Angie Aquino Title I could take but he would. The annual tie or just be taken spirit. That's right. That's because we have to wait for the whole year but then you will spend the rest of the year with me just they're holding over you. Magin how that's GonNa feel. No I don't think about you at all harsh. It's nice. That's that's an overplay me at this point. I Don fear you Michael not about fear. After me you just have to accept what's actually happening to. You know now that there's nothing to accept pathetic little and you're trying to, you're trying to instill the sense of fear in my brain but I I don't care. It's I'm one step ahead and I'm already thinking well, you know what I should be I should be a man of I should I should lead by example, right and therefore I will say that all the new iphones we'll have a new design. Would you like to hear my first pick which team passionate shore apple announced his four phones in only three different sizes? Wait what apple announces four phones. But in only three different sizes. So the big twelve is the same size of the small twelfth pro potentially. That's yeah. But potentially, that's that's a outcome here. why are you saying that that? No, I don't get it. So they're doing the t the twelve small and the twelve. Then, they're doing the twelfth pro and twelve bucks. Now, we know the twelve. will be bigger and the to our small will be new size. So there's two of them. What's the third one? Well that the twelve pro Max twelve probably the same size. Right say that again. Wait now the to. The twelve. Max and the twelve pro will be the same size. Oh. So that to the Bays model twelve, the bigger one. will be the same display size as the twelve. Allow me to just tell you the names of the funds the iphone twelve mini, the iphone twelve, the iphone twelve, pro, the iphone twelve promex. You're say the iphone twelve when the iphone twelve pro will be the same size same size. The discord is very upset with you. This is pretty much exactly what's rumored and they say it is not passionate. The broom is not important for the first two rounds. The reason this is passionate is they might not announce for the same time and I am saying like I think that this is quite a thing to pick like I've been particular about this one. This is to pick some one right. I could have gone with either of these but I've gone to picks. Appointments says, four phones, apple announces phones in three different sizes i. think that is passionate. Pick my first pick. To make the two of you personally sad I think promotion does not come to new iphones. I'm GONNA soul annoyed if they don't do this I, see the passion here though I see the passion while Don Stephen. I'll see why you saying there is no passionate in my pick. No I'm saying it's more like I have more passion. It's like a store brand pick like yeah. Okay. But you know that there's significant rumor across many people at the moment saying there will be no high refresh rate display, but it's not remember does it matter till the last remember Michael. Like where is I thought that there was an overlap between rumor and passion that's what we were just talking about well when it comes to yours. Yes. When it comes to mind no No now I understand now. So it's passionate because I don't like promotion I've turned off on my IPAD. Perot my brain feel bad So I'm going to say they're they are listening to me there's no promotional the new iphones there we go. I'll be some mad I'm sure that's how it works I will be. Very, upset if if they could make it work and they would also be Kinda strange I mean other companies are doing it. So the room Federico, I know that you've been a little bit tuned off to stuff recently for good reason is that I have seen somebody says say that they were like not sure if they can make it happen it was apparently there's like the the something like most of the technology and the phone is able to support it but there's like a chip controlled couldn't get hold of. That was an issue with production so they wouldn't be doing it I think that you know. The way that I think about these things is apple can make anything happen they just can they have old money for like they've just make eappen so I will be release appointed if at least the pro phones do not have promotion in them. Hey. Can you guys offers second answer this call I'm sorry. I mean, it's kind of weird. I can Amazon five extra euros and they bring me stuffing like thirty minutes and apple as trillions and the can by chip. Exactly. Yeah I just feel like go go somewhere else and make it. Is it really one company and the entire planet that can make these chips for you. We're GONNA talk about this may be a little bit later on with an awful lot at my picks but I just feel like I understand what people say about like all you need time you. You know you've got to get the production ready or that kind of stuff, but I just feel like it is possible to make things happen. Right like I i. just feel like you can make stuff happen especially if you're apple. They dislike snap their fingers and there's chips. I am a big believer of the theory. The money buys everything so. Except Stephen it's kind said Stephen comparable well. Everything else can be bought but Stephen. We established that earlier in the show. Sorry. I've my journalistic integrity is that what it is? Yeah. Yeah. What it is. Surely, the price as well. All. Right. So that is the end of round one. Too. Many contentious things here. I felt like we're also getting along pretty well says, let's very little contention in round. Wanted to what's let's move on around to think, Oh, you're up. It's again. Yes so might be. Kind of following what happened in the September event. We saw with the new Apple Watch and therefore I'm seeing that one of the new iphones will not have the US beach the USB charger in the box is it the charger the adapter? Is the part that's not the cable. Yeah we know it. We don't need to clarify that. Yeah. Okay. So now here I wanNA see one of the new iphones because I can see the our own with might as well give you a charger especially if you're buying the iphone twelve pro- so I I don't think that should make it. It if they did that, I think that'd be stupid I don't see why spending more money because. The equation if it civility quality makes me sound like a jerk about a of people don't necessarily care about that and you know it's wrong but like. Just, talking to my friends, for example, he's all anecdotal evidence I know. But a lot of folks are saying, well, you want they give you like a thousand euros and there's not in charge during the box. It's like and I know, yeah, it's not the same it's not a valid argument but the perception is there And Therefore the one of the new iphones will not have a charger in the box. And I think it's pretty much like I would be very surprised if this doesn't come true especially. The apple the so why not follow up with the with the iphone as well because. This is the one where the actual environment waste is. The iphone something Apple Watch. Right they some millions upon millions upon millions of these iphones, right this is where the real. Cost savings and investment who impact will be felt. Seems inevitable even talking about it for a long time and they've already set the stage with the Apple Watch facial. So maybe this one is moderate passion pick. This is this is the kind of pick for when you just WANNA. Chill. You don't have the energy for for. Yeah. This is. For when you watch your Cuddle after High Passion Pick essentially, you know what? It reminds me of you know how lake there are those. Kind of chill rave music. What is it cold? You know what I'm talking about like that chill out music it's going to chill out very clearly. Basically. It's for the down right. That's basically what this person hey was. There's no charger in the box. You'll be like, yeah, I Kinda I. Kinda dig that I like it. And you just chilling thinking about the son of beanbags charger. I always wanted one. Is it comfy? I haven't been the chair in the studio. It's so great to have one I. Love having my pin bacteria sometimes, I just sit in the being back here on my have many. Analysts. On the come. Here's my. Second Pick. Apple gives another extended free period of TV plus with new product purchases. Okay I well, I need to give it this. Mike this passion pick you you've you've done it. Thank you well. You've learned the ropes and it's been a long journey. Alum from the from the Passion Mazda. I cannot prefer passion maestro if you don't. Mind Passion Daddy. Yup Passion Daddy. Now his the real thing. Here's the thing is even going to leave passion daddy in the show we'll find out together I. Guess. So they are extending the TV plus. Free deal what's all with new product? So this one's a little tricky I. I found the wording of this tricky to to to get across but so I will I will lay out here for you to a we make some slight adjustments obese. So I the you know exactly what I'm getting. So when last year when Apple TV plus debuted apple gave a free year to anyone that bought an apple product, right? Yeah. People anything from the like do. Anything that was released from the fall omelettes right you'd get a free now I expect they're going to do something like that. Again I, don't know if it's going to be a year. But what I'm saying is that if you buy an apple product, you will get a free trial period that is longer than the base free trial period of Apple TV, plus right. So I'm sure that there is a thirty day free trial period or something for Apple TV plus for anyone. But if what I'm saying is if they will save, you buy a product, we will give you X. amount of time will. Make Sense. It does I wonder if. The Apple Watch already shipping like, do they just backdate it and say, Hey, if you bought it back day reason why they couldn't do that I also wonder if it would be like I took advantage of that I think all three of us did would I be eligible again or is it just for like new sign ups? I'm just talking around this is not in my pick but I'm saying that I'm saying, yes, I actually think this is part of the reason. So the main reason I think they're going to do this is because of The issues around television production this year, and that two of Apple's best shows may not be ready for the end of this month, which is when we're all GonNa Stop Paying Faculty TV plus. So it would not surprise me if they just knocked on a little bit further, a allows them to keep the services. Revenue Bird is because they actually included a portion of all sales of iphones in the services revenue rushed year because of this deal. So I think they're to want to keep doing all of that because I think that they run the risk here of losing a lot of subscribers having a hit on the services revenue, they don't want to have. So I can imagine that they will keep keep going for a new purchases. It's a good thought. I'm not sure I would have put it around to but you did it right there see because I did it just doesn't feel risky to me because I've been me and Jason talked about this for awhile. Maybe I should have had it as my risky because my risky is while may ricky is particular ricky I think. So should just had this goal move on some nonsense. Yeah. Let me ask you this. If this wasn't true when you're apple TV plus. Free trial comes in end. Would you renew it right now? Will Right, now is tricky so I'm going to renew it because there are now a bunch of shows that I have enjoyed but I don't think there's anything I haven't yet watched that I wanNA watch but Love Ted Lasso finished that we I really enjoy mythic quest just finished that and I'm looking forward to the morning show amphora mankind. So I'm happy to keep it going I'm getting way more value from TV plus than I am from Apple Okayed Federico. Anything months. The only thing I'm watching is the Big Brother I would like, of course, you are when I I would like to Echo John's recommendation from unwind for Ted Lasso. The I think you'll like it. It is a lot of people make this comparison in the past few days and this might help you. It's very shits creek like. In its positively a message and you know like, is it good like five heavy on the actual sports? Because the hall can see the show is the guy doesn't know how the sports played. Okay. So, like the show begins with like he doesn't know who doesn't matter if you don't know I know very little about football and could. You know there was nothing they do a good job of setting up what you need to understand. Through the Lens of it being Ted Laso. Right. So like people explain things to him. So therefore, you get the explanation to okay. Then adding to my list of things to. Watch. Him Play when I'm done. My second round pick is that the iphone pro will come in at least one new color. Okay Yeah. Blue. Probably blew. I- I specifically didn't say like replace a color. My my guest not in my pick is that midnight green will go away and be replaced with something new. So be. Grey Silver Gold and blue probably. But. To get that specific so it will come in at least one new color. And the IPHONE twelve I think would be like ten or eleven were right. It'd be like a series of colors and they'll pick something and just run with it. It's going to be below I think so. And I'll probably get the blue one because I enjoyed the green one. This episode of connected brought to you by Hover one, really FM's longest running sponsors. When you have that big idea, where do you go? Well, your business starts with a domain name. So for so many people hover is that I big leap? They have over three hundred domain name extensions to choose from No matter what you want to build there's a domain name waiting for you. They've excellent technical support to answer any questions you may have, and they're dedicated to getting you online not up selling you and services you don't need. 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Make a name for yourself with hover our thanks to hover for their support of the show and relax him. Rotan follow up the live chat and the discord is very upset about my pick. Because you concurrently get the free year. TV. Plus if you buy a product right now, so I want to talk about this I. Think maybe you're picks invalid is I. Don't want him bite pick. I think it is the need like a gavel or something to say this is not valid. This is invalid but see I just don't think I think if my the way that I see is if they extend that promotion if it continues. Past these iphones that's one getting it because I think the expectation is that that is going to end i. think everyone expected that to end at some point it hasn't ended but I don't think that if they do these iphones and say, you should just sit there extending the free year that they gave people. I don't know I don't want to. Well. That's kind of when I am saying though but like you. Think you're going to get that extension unless you buy something. So I currently says I know how I can do this I know how I can do this. Apple gives an overextended free period of TV plus new product purchases comma. Even if you've already had one, can you say that again? So I'm just adding to the end of the pick even if you've already had a trial. Even if you already. Had Fixing did free. Okay Yeah. So it just builds on top of that. Yeah. Because I don't think you can have more than one trial like it doesn't accumulate like if I buy like a if I had bought an iphone and AMAC, I don't get two years I just got one year, right. But now what I'm saying is that they will do it again. So if me Mike Holly was already had a year bison, you iphone I get another free whatever period maybe not a year but I never extended free trial period Zach good. Because that's what I'm saying anyway. So I have no problem adding that to pick because that's what I also think is going to be the thing. Can, everyone we're good. We will agree this. So let's let's update that officially update. Aren't Mike's my pick is apple gives another extended free period of TV plus if new product purchases even if you've already had a trial yes. Yeah. Yeah. I, agree. Okay. All right risky picks. So I had a bunch of years for could be considered risky in this event, but then I started thinking that i. I don't really know if there's going to be a third event I think there's going to be one. And like I started sort of. Second guessing all my decisions regarding like what apple likes to save some announcements for I. Don't know November or December events, for example, and so I. Went you know a little more traditional with this big. However, I still think it's risky because I'm seal talking about something that hasn't been rumored that nobody has talked about it's not like it was hinted or anything you just based on. I want to say come on sanding and previous patterns awfully this will come to. So I'm saying that one of the new iphones we'll have a new portrait feature thanks to the new sensors that they're adding in the Actually. I will see one of the new pro iphones There's I think that makes more sense. One of the new iphones will have a new portrait feature. Thanks to the new sensors for the camera. So basically, my thought here is. When apple launched the twenty twenty pro with delight or censor They mentioned the performance of lighter like it takes less time to scan a room for example of an of that. But then ww see the actually introduced a few technologies that we haven't really discussed on the show a arket for obviously but also the new depth API, for example, stuff like location anchoring that's more related to look to actual locations, which will be part of my flexes leader, but we're GONNA. Talk about that in a few minutes. So my thought is. If I'm apple and have these new technologies the do that they are already in place in US fourteen but so far molly using them for the IPAD pro, which is fine. But if I'm introducing a new iphone that has the lighter censor. What's a good way to show off these improvements at a very practical level to consumers and so I thought the camera is the obvious answer like everybody buys a new iphone and things while I guess these iphone takes better pictures. and. Portrait mode is the one feature of the camera that really takes advantage of this sensors and things related to death and you know finding faces, for example, in photos and sound thinking they will do something new import took mode that's highly possible on the iphone twelve pro. Okay. So Yeah, I'm following you. But what if it's just like significant improvements not features. Yeah 'cause what you've said is a new feature. So it has this these phones have to have some kind of software feature. Available on the phones, of outlet. Yeah Yeah. You say. percent improvements to portrait mode. That's not a thing for. Know. But a better, would you say this is one of the new iphones with lighter. I think that I don't even think you really need to end the pig bomb if you put it in Okay I mean. I just wanted to clarify that because what I imagine could very easily the cases that light are improves trait mode significantly but that's that's knocking fun. Is it? It's not risky I think he will improve I. Think you willing prove it but I'm also thinking could could improve. Yeah. But I also think you like. there. Should be something new on top of that to to to really sell you on the idea. All right. So I wanNA I wanNA. Maybe, I'm hoping you alot. I could imagine light are enabling things in the camera. APP Not new, but it might not be portrait. Really. Well. Maybe. So. Like. You know I could imagine using some form of a are and lighter to like put things in pictures with you. You know what I mean like some kind of a photo mode. But that's not what you're saying. That makes sense. You know other. Companies are doing it Yeah I think I WANNA seek to portrait because. They've been pretty consistent in adding new portrait features over the past few years 'cause it's the part of the camera. The everything is arguably can do with the most improvement, right? Because it is the weakest part of Apple's camera suite. Yeah, right. It's the thing that looks the worst most often because we've all had these I. Mean I have like I took a great portrait photo just yesterday i. Was Really happy with it. It was actually one that for one of the first times ever benefit from those mono light features cuts out the background even so like I was very happy with it but I still very frequently like I'll have portrait photos taken of me and it off of my glasses. Yeah. Right. Like the best. That's the kind of stuff they still need to make significant improvements to like. This is a I don't mean this to be like a dark comedy like thing but like I could see how some people could see that. But Tim Cook shed a picture of Steve Jobs the other day. Because it was the ninth anniversary of Steve's death I think. And the picture that he took clearly been taken by like by camera that had really good Boca and it was just I was struck by the fact that you could that he's glosses were in focusing the image. because. It's just not like a typical thing that I see with that kind of effect these days and my brain I think is much more tuned to seeing portrait mode photos and actual real. Good. But it was just like a thing that popped into my head is like Yep that was a real camera that took that picture because the iphone would have absolutely ruined it. So I'm sticking with portrait. meteoroid by relief feels like the obvious place to me. So well, I mean if they're gonNA do something with Lyda like that's something I, don't know how useful a are is. I Don feel as confident about this one as a fault with the blood oxygen apple on the watch. Like I don't feel honestly I don't feel as confident. About these peaks as the last time? I don't know maybe also low energy level right now thing well, now I think I think we came into this because we just did it and we only this we have one days is to come up with US Yup. That like I I think we're all kind of thrown off like not necessarily having the the best picks possible for us and that's how I feel for myself. As well as I feel like especially. My my risky pick, which I'm about to get to. I'm doing a little bit more wish costing than I would normally do like where I want this thing to happen. So I'm picking it. She's not really the way that I would typically approach a risk. Yeah I felt like the the last time we did this, which was like three weeks ago All of my cheeks were allowed more researched and considered, and these winds are just had to come up within twenty four hours and added a did we have twenty four hours lost Time Yeah Yeah. But it felt like we had more time if because we had been preparing more ahead of the event. Yeah. Yeah, and it's like I mean, we knew there was gonna be a second event but for some reason I personally I didn't prepare for this one. I don't know. It's not like I forgot. But in a way I kind of did. So. We'll see Meyer maybe maybe maybe Stephen Wins this this this one's. Just. Say my risky pick y'all. Oh. No you're not willing four. We'll see I came up with this risky pickup about a month ago that no one else took it, but we'll get to mind Oh, yeah. Well, no safe and I think there's a reason those took it. Was GonNA fight you for this? It's. Not like some big secret. Just, very mistaken in picking this why don't you just do yours now and then we'll get to Mike I'm going to want to rush through mind. Risky pick is my vehicle into victory. Is. The. V, the stallion hour ride into battle and this. Ride out. Yeah and like would you write in on the thing you'll celebrating doesn't make any sense It's more like a chariot or something. Yeah. Yeah. That you would right away from you know like is he doing your victory lap? Yes. Lots of lots their name of their revealed movie with the not the gladiator about like from the sixties or something there was. No? No No. No. Star. Wars. Ben Her. Yeah Van Her. Yeah and they're riding on the. Chariots. Yea Chariots. Yeah. Charts the Romans stuff. It's a totally different evenutally so The chariot racing yeah jess from nineteen. FIFTY-NINE K.. Well I. Don't know why I know this but we just had this conversation home like a couple of days ago about Ben Hur will cause someone. I. Think it was my mom mentioned chariots of fire. At, but that's not the movie. As the movie chariots of Fire Is. Different. Movie Not About Chariots. Is What is charrette? Chariots of fire is about an Olympic grace is is that is that the movie with the famous Song Yes? No, no, no. That's charity. Fall. Yeah. I. Have Really Memories of that Song Anyway Yeah Chariots of Fire Yeah, that's Oughta go about Chariots Ben, very much about chariots van her very much. So the primarily merrily about Charrette's I think. I. Think. So anyway, anyway, if you actually say it yeah if it said it yet. Chariot focused for. Are Out of order. But here I, go my risky pick the iphone pro moves to USC time it's the year they're going to do it. They just move the IPAD air to move this thing just the pro though no, not the. removed because the IPAD is moving to that. Yeah and the iphone pro will move because the going to move to it too. But. The IPAD air is not a pro device. Based on your own logic, right? That should mean they all move to specie but then again to the pro, because you, SPCA, pros don't pay attention to the IPAD air. It's just you know you brought my attention to the IFA. You said it it's just like when they announced. US on the IPAD pro. They said USCC PRO pro. Pro USB, it's on. The iphone twelve pro, it's coming. Feel it my bones I want to ask you Do you think is a good pick. Do you really think it's going to happen I? Think it is I think it's going to happen. I think it's a good big. Interest I look forward to. The twitter account I you sure you WANNA. Do I am sure. Stephen. You can't stop me from greatness. No I. Mean you're the one foot on the chariot nobody stopped. Yeah. You're. Just WanNa to make sure that you know where you're. Up Against. I aboard my chariot chariots names, passion. Z.. Horses. Work. I just I just I guess I'm just. At a loss for Thomas because it's so brilliant. There's no arguments. You're just sad you didn't pick it I. I do hear a tiny bit of the Rico in US Stephen Today like your. Blind faith in yourself. Is that what you know? Well, some people say blind faith some people call it confidence and which is a very positive trait. So I appreciate it. I in listening to you I don't understand why Mike dozen enjoy listening to me. I think this is very enjoyable. I. Think it's fun. Man What's The problem is when you do it. Off. Africa Stephen feels lost. In this. No it doesn't really doesn't is an idea. Of the chariot is ready to roll. It's been thinking about it for a month and. Still, decided to use this one. Winter came up with this month ago I tell you. If you a right, I don't think they will be a pick. I will be happier to lose. Because I want this so bad humane because your friend roast greatness above novick because I want usb on my iphone I, I don't WanNa have to deal with lightning cables anymore. If this becomes true, I will try Babatunde. Now you're going to do anyway he said the show that you can do. said that I never set what what I never saw that cannot do my pick now Stephen A. You dumb with the. Yeah, you know, look the people want me to be right. That's what they're saying the discord I'm Amanda the people want to give them what they want, and they want us be on the phones. I think the people are GonNa want me to be rimal. So? What is your out of order risky pick a new iphone has touch ID. Sensible. Oh. Boy. Yep. I'm very aware of how risky this of me I only partly believe it myself. I do not expect to win this. Usually with we've risky picks. I have some expectation I'm going to get. This one feels like one of the more risky things I've picked in my memory. I wanted to lay the groundwork for this a little bit i. they have a sensor that would work in this device apple has developed it. We've seen it right. It's in the IPAD and they're they're very proud of it. Did you did you hear they said on just pod? podcast they were like new one is engineered something like this is like come on Apple. Every single android phone for years and years and years I've been doing this. But yeah I again, it's like you know that that can always be some element of saying maybe the very specific way in which the engineer that nobody's done it but the the. The You know what I mean. So Yeah, look. Is it likely. That they were going to do this not really possibly right like I. think There has been talk before cove it. There has been talk that people would like this and or the apple could go back to I think one of the things that has been quite heavily for awhile is in screened fingerprint readers would come to the iphone and enable the touch ID to come back and still use face ID, and then you have multiple methods of those indication. So maybe it's been something that's been on their radar for a while. But I would I would be you know I'm sure that when covert citing they realized. Man. It would be really good if we could have touch ID on these things and also I mean these devices have been delayed. This is what I was getting earlier I. Consider it not impossible that they could have changed the design design of the iphone at this. Difficult. Yes. Impossible. Absolutely impossible and I know people are going to to put. They look these things in years. I don't care definitely possible right like with a six month lead time I, believe that they could make the changed they need to if they wanted to put touch id into this device I, believe it's possible like there was an interview recently with CEO of one. Plus could be hd did and he went through the kind of the design process of the one plus gnawed and I believe he mentioned they went from six months from product design to release if one plus could do that apple could definitely do this. Right like I. Know we're dealing with differences in scales about like how many of these things are going to be salt but again? We're dealing with of fastly different economic. Equation between one plus an apple. I don't think this is definitely going to happen by any stretch of the imagination but if they announced it, I feel like I could understand how they made it happen and that's kind of the argument making number of us, right so that's am. I don't think they delayed it to add it but I could imagine the delay could have helped them at it. Touch ID coming back on the IPHONE. It is risky. Give you that passionate, right? You're showing that you're. Passionate I'm so glad that you you both have learned from from the Maestro especially over the past month. I. Think my victory was really. In ensuring the way here. For that, I'm really proud of myself for spawning this generation of of passion. beakers. So, yeah this is a really good one. I am very much unsure about the. You know what? What I? The possible complication for you here. Is the fact that? And correct me if I'm wrong but. I S. Does not have. Any existing solution to deal with dual biometric authentication it could be it could be like one of these things that doing what version of virus that does it, but no one's allowed to see it. Yeah, right. But just if feels like A. Big enough deal. I don't know. Because on the one hand I, really like it as a pecan really would like to have touch id again on the IPHONE. It's very risky. So. I. Would be happy if this one. But I am concerned about this offer aspect. Maybe there's a very elegant way for apple to deal with this. In that if you're a developer, you done hair I, believe that that will be the case because if you remember when they touch ID to face. Id. The system handled it but right but there was a switch in their you're literally switching. For example, if you think about the details of the dialogue, you're literally switching the touch ID, fingerprint symbol to face idea symbol, and here you would have to actually get a little more complicated than that and say things like either us face the or touch ID. And it's like you're not switching. You're adding an option to an existing one I. don't. I, still don't think developers have to do anything though I just like to take elements. I can imagine it's all a layer on top right. So apple would just say like authenticate and it would show like a the face thing or point zero to the button or whatever. Right? It's a face with prince on. or it's like a fingerprint face. Finger face. Face Printing. Just. Smiley face drawn on it. Thumbs kids drew a little person authorities a it's more like a henze face. Something like that. Yeah. Ideally should be. Pretty transparent thing for developers you just say use biometric authentication the system figures it out for you. So I don't think native even needed to put this in it. Yeah. What's what's your? What's your optimism percentage on this fifty fifty genuinely okay. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't think it's very high but but I do think as possible I I really you know like I just don't put a lot of stock in idea that all the time says no way like I really just feel like it can be done. Stuff can be done I really believe that like I am confident I am very confident the some point in the last few years apple was made changes to the iphone within this timeframe who have. Plaza apartment negative right like either they like here's the thing. Right? We're talking about the potential at the not having the one hundred and twenty huts display. When they wanted to they've had to change something haven't they? Had to pull something out and I know adding something a touch. Id. Sense. It could be much more agree GIS. But like the idea of things changing I just feel like there is a possibility in that. That's where I am boys. I am very proud of your of you today. Thank you regardless of how this goes. I will still win however I'm very proud of you. I don't know I I. Honestly I. Don't think any of US have given a risky pick which fills. Speak for yourself boys I am speaking for you. See what have I done here off created and? Now, no one's GonNa win anything and everything's always be coin tosses because we're all trying to out. Passionate. This episode is brought to you by Pinga from solar winds. Today's Internet users expect fast web experiences. No matter how good your content is or how effective your marketing is. GonNa balance if your website is loading too slowly. With real user monitoring from pinged him, you can discover how website performance issues affect your visitors experiences. So you can take action before your business is impacted. How your visitors experience, your website differs depending on the browser device platform they're using. 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Pride of it right that we proving are dominant slowly the money a it's money because the loser has to donate twenty five dollars per wrong Flexi to the winners. Choice of charities. We've each have to have at least five I. Think we all have five this time. no-one decide to go over that guy. Decided to go over and you prove that was a bad idea. Yes, it's a bad idea. So let's do like we did last time Federico you give us all of yours, and then we'll just move through this list. Okay This is actually quite fun I mean I don't think I will get any of these. By the really fun and so my first one is apple will launch a new HD tear for Apple Music high. Resolution Audio other folks are doing it Amazon is doing it titled is doing it they sit around. I. Yet they are they actually had a very quite. Loyal. User base with audio files like it's no joke for those people people who buy gold cables. But why do I hear a tiny bit of an accent of circles menial but making a joke I've used your high end equipment is incredible yeah. Yeah. So I really think I. I think I mentioned this before on the show it would be a relatively easy way for apple to make more money from apple music for from a subset of people like even if it's like A. Million people worldwide like it's a very small number and the thinking behind this is the assumption that we are making you're making is that they will be releasing over headphones, which in theory will have a higher audio quality. So they introduced higher audio right high bit rate audio to go along with it. Exactly. Technologically speaking, it comes down to a bunch of implementation details. Obviously, I believe the current airplay to protocol doesn't support native streaming of. Formats like flack for example, a lot of compression going on there. So there would have to be some changes if apple award to say, well, we have apple music hd and you can listen be at the airport studio or the home pod or anything else. But when it comes to play I, think they need more bandwidth in terms of like what they're actually sending. Over wi fi but that's an implementation can figure out I feel like if I only worked to certain devices, they could they could cheat the play I make it like chrome cost. Yeah and they have they could do like a specialty. VH1 cheap I'm sure they could do a lot of interesting integrations there. Is This is not. Like revolutionary idea lots of other streaming services are doing it like they usually call it hd or like studio quality for example, So it's something that I would like to see an apple music as well. Now, the second one I mentioned a few minutes ago among the new. Depth API's for Yorkie ten, the lighter center announced W W see they have these feature called location anchoring which allows you to place a precise anchor in in in on any location in the world, and then users can go find it later using a arket it's quite fun to us. We like this a arcade games, and like also educational apps that I mean where it allowed there require you to walk outside and go find the specific spot like a monument or something What's the name of? Of that game that people play with the requires like geocaching finding things. geocaching yes. It's a kind of a modern spin on that the idea here my second pick is apple launches. An A. R. Navigation mode for apple maps Google maps has it. And they're doing it on on smartphones right now they actually announced a bunch of improvements to that feature just last week and I think it's time for apple to do it as well. So just imagine you're walking with your iphone and you can take a look at the camera. You can use the camera to explore what's around you and you could see points of interest and you can see information cards pop up on the screen, and you could just follow the directions or laid on the phone's display as like a sort of a camera view inside of maps and apple a bunch of interesting things to consider here. First of all one of the new features US fourteen is that you can use your iphone. If you are in crowded place downtown where like GPS signal is not that strong you can use the iphone camera to refine your location in maps, which when you think about it, that's kind of a Yorkie. Integration because you're scanning the world around you to refine the location maps and you know why? Because it only works in cities were apple as the local feature. So they're actually comparing what you're I. Funny. Seen the what's stored in the look around maps database to say, well, okay, I get it. You're in front of this building right now essentially. So I think they already have a lot of different pieces in place for this feature to become possible. A yard negation maps could be cool on the IPHONE, of course, and obviously we're were thinking. This will make a lot more sense once we have glasses, but you can actually overlay directions in front of my eyes. But for now, I think it would also make sense on the IPHONE The third one is apple because honestly like this is wishful thinking something really liked to have myself even like nobody's ever talked about this because like nobody's saying that this should exist. Apple in new airports, APP for the IPHONE. Basically the I'm really annoyed by the fact that there's all these different options for air pods, especially, airports, pro there. I need to go find in different places in Settings Liking Bluetooth, and accessibility, and now US fourteen at. At. Fun accommodations which are new accessibility featured the letter, customize this island and the sort of brightness and the volume of airports and other compatible at phones and I think it's time for. Time for us to have in an airport at kind of like, we have a watch up just a single place where we can go in and configure all this kinds of. Apple headphones that we have especially, if apple is releasing new airport studio I think it would be nice to have a to have just a little utility that you can go in there you can customize you can try all the different examples and you can have accessibility options in there. Instead of having to find all these different pages in settings I think it would be more convenient to have a to have an APP The fourth FLEXI is I use fourteen point to show Sam music recognition. Is damaged during the event or at least apple will mention it because I really feel like this is the iphone plus headphones event I didn't pick headphones in any of my picks. But I think there's a good chance that were get this announcement next week. If this is the if the new iphones are coming out in, is the IPHONE and music event. Then I guess it makes sense to talk about what's happening US fourteen point with built-in music recognition. Especially, in the context of maybe these headphones, we'll have something to go even beyond that. Maybe the airport student will have like a Zombie Button I don't know, but it could be possible. So I think they should I think they will. They will like to mention this as a thing that the iphone can now do and lastly I think we will see a new proximity-based sulphur feature on the iphone. Again, this is based on your idea that there's this analogy in place. It's called launched in irs fourteen. It's called nearby interaction. It's this new framework that apple talked about it WC. It's only available on iphones that have the you want cheap remembered that cheap that we all made fun of last year because it was kind of useless. Yeah and it still is when you think about announcing the an Apple Watch. Yeah, it's more iphones. Is it announcing the IPHONE SE? Is it in the AFC? Think so maybe it's not in yes but anyway they they launched a framework for developers to build apps for this stuff. So proximity between iphones and I think well. We apple should actually do something here that goes beyond their drop. Also dust drop feature ever worked for you guys know it's Still, don't even know how to use it. It doesn't work right? They just spins and spins, but it does nothing right? Okay. So it's not just me. So yeah, I think we'll do something here. I don't know what could be a proximity based software feature. I. Just have a feeling that they will do one. I don't know what though. I just like to see it as a Flexi. They will do something proximity related why I think the there is another feature that we know of, which is the car thing does does will use the you one. That's one. These LEXI's, they will be an update to the apple. TV. The hardware like box. Yeah. The Hallway Yep. New. Apple. TV. That thinks so old now. Have to do something with it. No New Max disadvant-. I'm thinking they'll be a third and final event of the year with a show of up Silica. Max. But you're you're flexible new Max known you Max new home pod model. So I think they'll be a a smaller home pod but I just think there'll be a new home partisan kind. Apple will show some apple TV plus trailers. And to give the of APO- of many Federico's fix over air pods offered with multiple material options. Yeah. Give ideas materials. I mean. She's probably kind of stuff that was in that Montgomery report like the one will be like A. Fake leather or leather material. and. The other will be a Komo light weight breathable material you know. So you have. Basically Spoil and. Edition. All Sport and regular whatever it is. You know. Like. The apple watches, but but in headphones. I really liked the idea the interchangeable pieces really hopeless true. I. Think Federico I. Think you said this the other day you're not in a group threat. You're about excited as cities, new headphones as you are funds and I am in agreement view on this. I really am excited about this product could be like you know like something as good as air pods were like over for yeah. I would say something as good as how pods pro are compared to even regular air pause but do that for over a headphones I'm in. Just the thought of having the original air pots moment but for headphones. Like remember like you know that moment three years ago when I tried, they're putting you'll be like. All other ear buds are done like you could tell for me honestly like the. How good apple pro was more of a big step for me than than just regular pods even. Yeah also, like that was also yeah I. So they're continuing to surprise us with our pods. and. Just to imagine the possibility of over your headphones getting treatment very. Very very, very excited. Yeah. Yeah especially with the other new things are doing with. Switching between devices and the new airplay picker in in for tippling to an automatic switching like all these things that are. Like around the experience of using headphones sort of like. Slow like this small ecosystem of little settings and tools and legal options that makes it a lot better to use. And even music recognition just the idea of now you even when you're wearing headphones and you're watching a movie or TV show, you can see recognize music. That's incredible. So yeah, I'm very excited about what they do here. All right. My first flexi is Jaaz presents a do product. Didn't see him last time, but I think we'll see him this time. He's going GonNa take the Shilla Spa. He's being tweeting his two new cameras and here's the new iphone that stuff I don't know I think that's a little maybe a bit too much unknown but I think we will see him in some capacity. And a our demo was shown. APPLE LOVES THOSE Phones got light are sensor there'll be an are. Big Sur gets a release date. I'm not willing to say that there will be a new MAC but if the new MACs aren't for another six weeks, I don't Aguire they keep holding big Sur I mean. Some point they gotta release it right is. Release a bull. It's not quite ready but. Neither was Iowa's thirteen the IPAD air preorder date is announced. In the event. So we judge this by what we know by the time of the show. So it could be that it comes out as a press release. During the event right afterwards, say bit like co saying between event and episode we get the IPAD. Prio today. Yes. Because like if it happens tomorrow. Friday. This week. That's not really Don't get. Okay. Yes. At least some of the new iphones. Have Five G.. Coming around. The Niagara. Not I was skeptical of five G. and you guys have. You've brought me around to it also the existence of a five G. Tower. Literally Lay neighborhood in my neighborhood. The My street. Difficult to. To to deny something when you can see it. Dr I'd everyday you guessed the name for one of the iphones the end predictions which is iphone eleven has pro Max Five G. Did I. Miss Not Going to be eleven asks right? Is it? That's the Pick that was just a comment on your pick. It's not a pick something you said, but we wrote down because you wanted to get like A. Look how smart? I am point. Also, my pick of no promotion isn't exact opposite of Federico's round to annual prediction that at least one, twenty, twenty iphone will have a higher refresh rate will because in January that seemed inevitable. Sure. But the point is that it's like our picture battling each other now. no-one Ricky pick for they will be a global pandemic. So we all have that to work on for next you YEP. So that is That's the Ricky's. Oct Twenty Twenty. It's GonNa be fantastic or a disaster or a fantastic zest to be fantastic disaster. That's what it's going to be I. Think it's GonNa be a disaster. Go, we will make enjoyable but I think it is going to be a disaster. Absolutely I do expect an absolute bloodbath. Slum. Yeah, not good. This is awful. Awful this terrible it's this. This are bad. Why did we do this show today? Just this one ounce we're GONNA do it. We contour next week. This are horrible picks. These are horrible like we all did a poor job. God, we're getting no points. I think s no I'm panicking. Best getting zero point. We will maybe all get one or zero points. Best would gone points. It'll be a three way. Coin Toss. I think Federico. You're going to get your round one round two I feel confident in that for you. Yet but we will get zero points that that's the problem because you will. If you get your points, you only lose one point. So you'll have one. Yeah and you will get the four phones in three sizes and you would. You're right can with the. So what I'm saying is looking at round one and round two. I ain't you a pretty set i. think it's a little shaky of immune Stephen to get both of us. I really I don't know I looking back at this week's I'm kind of afraid of Sieben now I don't think the USPS's happening promotional come. Don't think it's happening. I don't know. Did you hear how confident I heard how company was? I would say that Stevens risky pick is maybe the most likely of the three of US widdly but I still don't think is going to happen. We'll find out together next week. We'll see well I guess here's the question. Here's the question right? This is the final thing that will I guess we'll end on this today is do we think that this idea support Louis iphone is going to happen in the next two to three years? No, there's no way. No. Okay. Because that's the thing if we believe that's going to happen it's never gonNA go us if we don't think that's going to happen, it will go to USB see I see here's the thing I. Don't think it's a good idea but I think they'll do. Like A terrible idea I think it's a horrible idea I mean we we already have enough complications in our lives. Why do I also need to think about a Portland I for now it's a terrible idea, but it feels like I cut thing apple would do i. don't know just don't make me think about it like keep things as they are for a while is like I don't want to think about now I don't have A. According my phone anymore like no, just I'm busy I'd I'd I don't WanNa think about it. And I think also people don't WanNa think about it just leave it there. Live, leave the whole in the phone and just leave it be the only one of the three of us thinks they will do. This is also the person who doesn't use wireless charging think about that. No I. Don't think they're going to do it. It's a bad idea. Charging that's what I'm saying you use wiles charging federico uses while charging I never do I use I, use it to maybe that shows how inconvenient while charging is the people that use it don't think they'll do it. No, it's just that I think apple has more smarts than you give them credit for in this I. Think they know that people would revolt without a port in their phone. I think that people revolt when the gritted iphone Jackson but you can't. SBC. That's older than two years old. Auto like let's let's be real. You can't have a thing without any ports. Like, even the Apple Watch has a diagnostic part you but it could charge Vira magnetic charge in the give plugs into a USB l.. But you can exchange data via Magneti charger and the Apple Watch. By, all wired carplay goodbye all docs. I'm just I'm not saying that like I'm the on board with this. I think there is. It seems like a thing they would do. That's all I'm saying seved day do it. It's all your fault. Find show notes for this week. There are few over relay dot FM slash connected slash three fifteen. Are there you can get in touch with us via email or you can become a member and get access to connected pro, which is an ad free longer version of the show each and every week. You can find us all online. You can find Mike on Twitter. I Am Y., k. e. Mike is, what is the first podcast you ever listen to Dig Nation K.. You on an episode. Not. Really. Well, you kind of kind of you were the featured guest. No a picture of me someone a picture of you. On one. You can find Federico on twitter of A. T. T. V. I T. I c.. C.. Federico what is your favorite citizen of the year? Question I just asked the summer. season. Like in fact, other seasons are like should be banned like winters useless like I, honestly have. Removed people from facebook if icy comments like, oh, it's beautiful. Finally, it's the fall and it's raining and we can stay inside and like what is wrong with you who enjoys cold weather and rain? What he's actually wrong with you. and. So I removed two people from facebook because of that Yeah beautiful weather is the only real weather Sylvia I totally serious here. See we have been considering doing the thing where we actually traveled twice a year so that it's always summer. So like moving to the southern hemisphere for a while and then coming back so that we never experienced winter. We really dislike winter and cold weathering general and rain Rainey's is terrible I. What Is Rain White? Why do some people like it? There's nothing to like the water falling from the Sky I'm not sure people light rain. All no no. No. There's some people like it. Some people say you really love thunderstorms like Oh. Out I don't know what else do you enjoy? That is also horrible. Anyway Summer Stephen is my answer. 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"The hospital is a sector primed for incredible change this year and beyond as vaccines are rolled out and we all begin to travel more freely again. The sector has of course been one of the hardest. Hit globally something. We haven't shied away from discussing on this program. But the silver lining perhaps is the acceleration of concepts and trends and how the hotel industry supports the way we want to live work and travel going forward and the money being spent on mergers and acquisitions renovations rebranding and brand. New properties is staggering. Considering the year we've just lived through many. Are betting big on bounce. Back and others have been busy. Refining projects and brands that will bring a needed shakeup to travel and urban living. You're listening to the entrepreneurs with me. Daniel beach this week. My guest is hans. Meyer co founder of the action based hotel company so coup which launched back in two thousand sixteen focus apartments are designed to act as hybrid work and living spaces that allow us to relax sleep entertain. Were simply focus or a hotel might have great shared spaces and well-designed rooms. Zocor is making the whole experience more flexible. Even in its membership model that will cater to working in an entirely different city. The brand is prime to be a benchmark in the growing concept of subscription living for people who travel often or don't like to be tied to one place. The company will open properties as well in vienna and copenhagen this year. Hans is an industry veteran who was in fact one of the co founders of another dutch brent citizen 'em but it's a global trip. He took a little over ten years ago. That inspired this next concept. Spending time living in bali his hours and washington. Dc to think more about the ideal of a more flexible hotel brand centered around human design. Here's hans doubt with a story of silk. Soak is a new category and hotel in the street. It's a bridge between home. Office topped with hotel. Show sus and what we called. A social bus of thriving neighborhood and focus japanese word for family tribe or clan soak was a kind of cultural phenomena in japan in the seventies where people with the same lifestyle started to live together or to be together and we developed this concept for people who need to live and work in cities the tween a few days or few months and not obviously for a lot of people in normal times. We'll be very very important of course and we'll be again in the future as sort of this. Our idea of how we travel live in cities and work and experience. Other parts of of life are intermingled but Talk to me just a little bit about how you came to this concept. You are a veteran of the industry. Of course but you took a lot of time out to sort of think back on your career and and where that was going and i think that started around a decade ago is that right is oakwood started around a decade ago before that i Worked as a ceo and former founding partner for citizens before that i worked internationally for a variety of hotel changed after citizen them. Basically start to think about what would be the next interesting venture to build in the hospitality industry and a that time because of broken penetration became possible to work from anywhere in the world independently from time in place. And we're a little bit more use to that now you're in corona but at the time it was quite a new development and i wanted to test that out so i took half a year to travel two months to insiders two months to washington. Dc and two months to bali and to try to run my company remotely which i found pretty interesting because it really gave me the opportunity to immerse myself into a local culture which is totally different than if you go for just a few days to an interesting city on interesting country so i wanted to combined is living and working into same spot. I found this very much interesting. What else who experienced is that if you are in a city where you don't speak the language very well. We don't know very well where you don't have your friends or family around you. International working can also be pretty lonely every now and then so i found it very interesting to think about okay. What what do other people feel with that. So i started to talk to hundred fifty people from target audience after my trip and just wants to find out. Do those people have the same feelings as i had. Maybe a few days. We start to feel a little bit disconnected. I actually found out that ninety percent of the people who i talked to experienced this international lifestyle. They had more or less the same now. Hotels can be pretty lonely. Hotels can also be pretty boring. And i think the only segment in our industry who really understands that connecting thing are hustles. Because at some point you jump out of your bunk bed. You think i'm going to grab one coffee and then i'm going into the city but after two hours you still sitting on the big table with a lot of people you did met before and that was just not happening in the hotel industry so next to kind of a place where i live and work i also felt the urge to create a space where people could meet each other in a very easy and effortless way and was basically started was okel. That's very interesting. And so much. I want to get into their especially on the sort of co working idea and also expanding that to having people sort of live there on a more permanent basis which we can get into but I want to talk about before you launch this and some of the research that you touched on there. It was a bit of an unconventional way for you to get into this new business. You actually studied human center design very closely. Is that right. Yeah the interesting thing here. Is that especially in the hotel industry. I mean this is basically a model that has been evolved slowly from something from thirty forty fifty s or sixty s from the last century. Basically a lot of things have changed. I mean still if you enter a hotel room on the left side you got the bathroom. The right side of wardrobe to step further left side. There's a bet and the red side. There's a kind of this. I think that's ninety percent of the hotel rooms. While i feel that the needs and wants and also the frustrations of people have changed of the lasted decades. And it's okwu. There were two important fundamental. Starting point first of all people as a starting point over everything you do so instead of trying to people adapt to your concept created of which is really built around the objectives of talk audience. That's one and the second thing. Can you outsmart the industry. Can you create more value at less cost at the same time i also. Can you do things smarter. And those principles have been important for a for circle. So little meant that. I wanted to work together with the target audience with the entire development of socal. So mark. who's my co-founder myself. We decided to work together with almost three hundred people from the target audience where we actually invited them. Of course i share what a experience while traveling working international but also did a lot of prototyping. We also work together with anthropologist for exile to really understand how people are living together and how we could foster that within so cool so we took a little bit more time than normally but what we also knew is that there was so much. Validation went into the concept of before we opened up. We knew it will be a big success because it has so much built around but people want today and in the future and you actually monitor people as with sensors. So it's quite common industry that you build a prototype and our sokolov is. I think really different than ninety nine point. Nine percent of the hotel rooms for the simple reason in the latter the bat is always the most dominant piece of furniture but it also prevents people from inviting people into their space because it feels a little bit awkward when people need to sit on the bed so we wanted the zocalo off to be a place where you can find everything to live comfortably below show where you can find everything to work efficiently so we decided we're going to hide the bet and we go to make the kitchen table is the most important piece of furniture in that space now. We also wanted to as i said previously to smarter and in extended stay or apart hotel injuries quite common. That apartments are forty fifty square meters. But that doesn't work in dense city center areas. So we said okay. Are we able to create a kind of a micro parkway way find everything that still feels spacious where you hide to bat and all these kind of components while you start to build models the first models we built they fit in my hand. I went to big companies like booking dot com or microsoft or accenture or smaller creative agencies. And i asked the hr manager's or mobility manageable to travel managers which people like to stay in those rooms. And how much would you be prepared to pay. And then after that. After the first validation we started to build models on the real-life scale and we invited hundred and two hundred and fifty people per prototype show. We built six total to evaluate them with them. So i would use very basic cheap materials and as long we go we went into the final product and the last test. We did actually worse with mobile. Eeg scanning where people got a brain scan or under has in cameras and we were able to measure to different emotions excitement and anxiety because of course it was also kind of new product and it was really funny. There were some small details that we learned how could improve them by just using the data here so it was not only new product but we also used new technologies like mobile. Eeg can life for reality to design this entire new product. I wonder if just for the sake of our listeners. You can sort of walk us through one of the units just so we get an idea of what the space is like. I'm thinking let's say. I fly in on a morning flight. I get in midday. I rent a place you know. I have a flexible membership eventually in a few different cities. I want to take shower one relaxed but then i want to have some client meetings. Then i wanna you know. Perhaps from friends over for a glass of wine talk to me about. What's actually in the unit. What you found you need and what the sort of layout is the first thing what we did is that we interviewed a total age. What is it that you want to do in your apartment went that far that women said i want to be able to shave my legs in the bathroom. I mean every single detail we worked out and we first of all said we want to facilitate it. The second thing is that we because the band is always a kind of an awkward thing in the room if you invite people so we said we're going to hide that and in order to hide that we created a kind of a fascinating solution with stairs. That solution is really interesting. If you arrive in the circle of basically the couch you see the big table with four chairs. You see lots of daylight birth. You actually don't see a bad and only asser looking very clearly around. You actually see how the s behavior there's equipped kitchen over there. You can use his oakland off as a kind of a hotel room. You can use it for service department but we also created a kind of a collection of fifty private restaurants where people got a four michelin starred in shift presented by famous chef. We even work together with the most important theater festival in the netherlands to create fifty private theaters. So basically what we created. Here is a kind for space way can live work and you can use it for a lot of different things that could facilitate either work or live or having dinner or a meeting or even those kinds of entertainment activities. That's loves and then if you would go to the top floor of zocor here in amsterdam you first arrive at a greenhouse with roof garden on both sides of greenhouse and then you arrive in the kind of the social spaces where we took out all the traditional barriers that you find in the normal hotel so no big reception desk no close of bar no wrestling way. Never see chef. Everything is basically open and it creates a very informal atmosphere where residence and people who work at so cool so freelance as they can very easily connect to roof terrorists lots of daylight lots of green. That's a little bit the experience that you will have. That's incredible and i enjoy the fact that you are sitting in one of the units. Just now people won't be able to see this what you're talking about there. The kitchen table being the focus of the room. I believe there and over your shoulder up. A set of set of little stairs is where the bad sets of. Is that right. It's quite an interesting concept. You talk about the ability to want to welcome people into your space and make better use of. That's space talk to me. A little bit about who the targets clientele will be here. Obviously we know a lot about and especially after this year countries and governments will be keen to see people is so called the digital nomad. Sue can work from anywhere and can set up shop but talk to me about the type of people that you look to attract. Guess what we've had of the last few years mainly where people working the big tech companies for example that could be booking com. That could be google. That could be netflix. That could be tesla's on all of them uber. Those kind of companies who brought talent to in this case and saddam who were supposed to work here project assignments for a few months or or relocating to amsterdam and in the first month to we basically held them to build up the local social and professional network here so the extension of who. I mean the traditional hotel is putting your head in the bed and we said okay. We become the extension of the hr department of these kind of companies. We had a lot of international self employed professionals enterpreneurs project managers. And those are the people actually stayed with us for a number of days weeks or months what we also have. Is that a lot of locals here. In the netherlands who like cincinnati five and. Those are a lot of freelancers. Those people normally would go to canada for co working space but they prefer to work at socal that means local amsterdam people and at the end of the day you get a kind of social space kind of cross pollination of those international people working for those international companies and local amsterdam people in the neighborhoods and disconnection between those two different groups also creates a lot of value for the international target audience. Because then it's not only your only with internationals in this hotel space but also you learn to know the in crowd in amsterdam. And i think that also add value so dr people who stay with us during the night but also we have people who use this oakland off during the day as their workspace especially in koran and we learned a lot that people who need to work from home. But i don't want to work from home or home doesn't want them to be at home with all the children running around. It's also kind of put option everyday around thirty to forty people. They rent a lot here during the day. Just daytime to do their work and then they go home. It's an interesting combination. Talk to me a little bit about the plans as well to move into other cities i know there are plans at various stages at this point but the next so we're actually going to triple zocor. Few months. we have absolute opuses two thousand and sixteen and in second fourth this year we will open them so copenhagen and soka fianna and also we working from other projects in the pipeline in europe but those two other properties will be our key focus and it also gives us the opportunity to go into a kind of new form of subscription living where what we learned over the last few months that there are more people actually learnt that okay. I can work from anywhere. Why would i go for a month to amsterdam a month to copenhagen a month in vienna and this kind of of lions social network where you meet like minded people where you do just your job but you're also meeting other people who are in the same position as you are. That makes it even more interesting. And now we get more and more demand of people who we have a few people living permanently here with us and then as soon as copenhagen vienna will open up they will go as well. There is a kind of an interesting developing now going on where people say. Okay why should. I buy home if i also could live in different areas in the world for a number of years and what i also experienced myself. It's tested way of exploring the world and really learn to know different cultures. That's really interesting. Obviously as you say you did that yourself and a lot more people. So we're hearing. Anecdotally will be working fulltime remote. We hope that's not completely the case. The offices needed a lot of the times. But you are already working on this model well before the pandemic has this sort of shifted any of your thinking and planning for the long-term sort of vision of what zocalo is because you already sort of on the forefront of this type of ideal living. We can say it's actually interesting because what has been happening over. The last year has been happening already for quite some years development. Only what happened. Is that corona acted as a catalyst for development so basically speeded up the entire development. What we see is that also if you look and you mentioned the word officers we very much believe that people still will go back to the office however what we believe in is that work and company will create canada workplace ecosystems for their people where they want to give people the opportunity to work from home to work in the office but also work in the third and fourth places. Like for example. We learned at a lot of companies will reevaluate. How much office space do i need. Because if i need to close lease agreement for five or ten years and had to give a lot of guarantees and have to fill out the office and have to take care of facility management and. I'm not that flexible. Why can i do something else. So what happens now. Is that people start to use hotels as kind of a remote location of the company and of course all the hotels will suitable for that because a majority of tells are still relatively small room with a big bet but what we see is that hotels actually can go into space and facilitate telling of companies a different way of working so that people actually can choose where they want to work the idea of an office where you go for eight hours sitting behind your laptop and then go home. I don't believe in that for the the near future. I think collaboration is important. Meeting on people will be important the choice whether you want to work focused or in the hustle and bustle of a kind of a social space. This kind of choice will be important in copenhagen gray for that. Yeah that's really interesting. And i think if i'm understanding right. This will offer companies a lot of opportunity to send people to other cities and have them sort of have the comforts of of working from a similar location. We can say if i'm rights that you'll have sort of a subscription model. So i'm thinking here if i'm accompanying. I've got rolling subscription. I'll be able to send employees to the various different cities you're open into do client meetings and and to just work a few days we can. That would work quite nicely because that gives them the opportunity to go see different cities go meet different clients right exactly the interesting thing. Is that a lot of companies. For example. they used to send people to resort on the bahamas to have kind of a sales call. But what you could think about. Is that suppose. You're a big consultancy company and you want to allow a person within the company just work for two months in amsterdam and to work on their whitepaper. Whatever i mean. It's a great incentive for people that are not bound anymore to kind of traditional offer or traditional workspace or traditional times when they need to work than work we adapted to your own preference and we would love to facilitate it. This seems like a great alternative. And i'm surprised. We haven't seen much of this earlier in the past decade that you've been building this of course seeing the rise of the co working space at different different levels of memberships and at different levels of sophistication in price we could. We could probably say as well but then the hotel side in good city centers. They're looking at creating greats lobby or co working space to keep people there to keep them spending money there but it doesn't seem to really be a hybrid of this and you know i would even lump citizen ammon into those hotels. We're talking about your previous company. I should say. I imagine we'll see a lot more of this going forward or a lot. More people are thinking about this type of model. This is something which i mean. Those industry is not famous for its innovative character from my own experience. I don't look to the hotel industry. I always look to business models also our industry and tried to adapt to kind of hotel model. Where i feel. It's very interesting and for example this hybrid model. If you look to the success over airbnb or uber have you is. that's all about unused capacity. I've good friend of mine. He has a five star hotel on the fifth avenue new york and he called me last year in said my lobby on one of the most expensive locations in the world is empty and your social spaces are packed. What's going on here. And i think that's a kind of vision. Dad's if you listen very carefully to your target audience and you work together with them and really give them what they want. The innovation comes by itself and will used to. We have used to do everything like we did last thirty or forty years. That's why i think that hotel industry is adapting relatively slow. I always said. I prefer to be big in a small market and to be small in a big market so we choose here at oku very deliberately target audience with specific objective and also means that for other people you know the most fantastic product which is totally fine. I mean there's a lot of offering in the world so we don't make a lot of compromises here either. Well the same time majority of hotels they make compromises get double bed which you can separate. You can take a shower in the bath. Tub and at the end of the day is both. It's nothing fantastic. And that's why we we've chosen very carefully targeted audience and do everything in the best possible way for the. I wonder if this time will create sort of a shift in the industry. And you you don't have to speculate here to have lay but it's interesting you bring up the hotel model now which you know is obviously operating at very reduced capacity but there is the airbnb model but that brings you away from people. That's you're being isolated. You're not around other people. You have a private unit which is greats same with a a very expensive hotel room but do you think we'd see more people move into this sort of flexible membership or flexible. Sort of lisa rents model. Well the thing is. I mean are a few reasons here first of all. I think it's a matter of not everybody can pay a huge mortgage secondly supposed that. There is a reason that people want to have flexibility. So they want to stay in the same location. They're obliged to stay there for a year. Then you see more and more people want convenience. They don't want to think about a lot of things especially digital nomads. They like kind of a friction. Less living where you don't only have the accommodations for example and airbnb but everything has been arranged. I think every be still a very strong concept however what they don't provide is a social structure. That's who has so at the end of the day like you say you're still on your own in this apartment which can still be very cool in the city while heroes okwu 'social spaces. We have a very active community management and our community manager where is often used as a kind of birth ward. I mean i think we are pretty good at connecting people with each other because we actively try to connect you to the people where feel a condition be an interesting connection and we also learn as soon as you five shakes. France herodes oku then. The added value of staying in that location. Become bigger and at the same time you still have your private space and your locked but at the same time you can easily connect with other people and we really help you to get grounded into the city and this extension of the hotel business model which is not only providing accommodation. I think that will be followed by operators soon as well very good and i'm just curious about how you think about how zocor fits within the fabric of different cities obviously in amsterdam. You're very central. But the way said he's moving feel. I think it's going to change in the year ahead especially out of this pandemic so talk to me about how you sort of work with the local community with local businesses and what sort of the vision is for. Let's say meshing without feel of the city when the interesting thing is that. There's a lot of debate around tourism. And how well does tourism for neighbors and cities. We definitely heard the entire idea about over tourism for example. Which is i think. Absolutely kind of avella point so what we also want to do is try to think. How can tourism play more positive role into cities and not only tourism little international travel so we launched in december a kind of an initiative absorb. Who where we offer our long-stay residence. The opportunity to do. Voluntary work in cities were together with an initiative. Gold served city. And that means while you stay here. Oakland for a number of weeks a month you can also participate in voluntary work. Where other residents are participating. Little shot our show staff is participating as well joke will has been certified as be corporation and that means that everything related to sustainability diversity community is important for us and that results in that normally hotels are often kind of embassies in cities. I mean very close off. Only tourists go there. And there's a kind of a logical connection. Now it's okay ended city for we organize also a lot of events here where resin can share something about his or her knowledge and experience but then we also invite people from the neighborhood to participate there as well and i think these kind of developments were. There's a kind of overlap between tourism local economy. I think that will help both. And at the same time. I think the typical areas where only officers and for the rest of nothing. Those will die as well. I think we've learned the last year that working and living becomes an interesting combination. Officers are not an efficient way of using space and traditional offer is used only fifteen percent of the time pre corona astronaut poster of pre corona. So we feel if we can have less space which is farm sustainable but we can use it much smarter than we do today. Then also the sustainability issue has been covered. And if you combine that with working together with the local community it becomes really. I think abbas value for a neighborhood instead of those typical hotels where only tourist get in and out and have parties and the doesn't bring a lot to cities. Yeah very interesting. I'm wondering how in that sense. How you think about sort of a concierge service or what the offering is to your different guests and clients. People will now be so used to doing things on demand on their phone from food delivery to the things we we already discussed booking airbnb and all that. But how do you sort of mesh being part of the city and also offering services to the guests that are coming in from all the world. Well interesting thing is that nowadays also possible i also with the use of technology and platforms debt. For example there are few local. Answer the people they love to show around international people. Those are the real insiders and i think that people are creating more and more personalized experience. Where of course. Technology plays an important role to connect those people with each other. What we tried to do also with our community management. We have a very strong network. In the netherlands for every long-stay residents we have check in chat takes around twenty minutes to half an hour to really learn to know you. And why you coming to amsterdam. And what you're interested in that. And based on those personal preferences we connect you to the right dulce. In the city there are quite a lot of technology solutions also helping to create a more friction less travel experience so we looking also into the so both in both into digital and the old fashioned analog solutions there a lot of opportunities where we actually can help you create the best experience while you're here in the city sounds great And perhaps we'll have to talk about what my check and interview would be. I wanna find somewhere to go cycling in the countryside and maybe do live radio broadcast from the rooftop. Is that possible. Both responsible and you can even do a live broadcast from one of the loss because there is also very silence. Just one of the that fair enough. Well we'll talk about that in the near future and hans. We very much appreciate your time here. And i look forward to checking in with you again and we can talk about some other cities as well but for now from amsterdam. Thank you so much. Thank you would love to have to over here. You're more than welcome. That hans meyer the co founder of soco. Speaking to me from amsterdam you can learn more at lives. Aku dot com. That's it for this week's program. Thanks to jack. Yours mixed an edited. They show on daniel beach. Thank you so much for listening and goodbye.
"They say that it takes ten years to make good calligrapher. And when I heard that during my first year, I thought, oh, no, I'm never gonna make it. This is designed matters with Debbie millman from design observer dot com. This episode Debbie talks with calligrapher and typeface designer Chris Holmes. The cook creator of the lucid typeface family. Well, the funnest case g you think that would be hard because it's all curves. But you kinda can't go wrong with it to the interview took place in March twenty nineteen in New York City as part of the type drives culture conference whose I with a word from our sponsors, then with her live interview with Chris Holmes design matters is supported by some wonderful, patrons adobe and wicks dot com. Are you an introvert and extrovert or both? I think the human desire for self knowledge is universal. 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So join wicks his brilliant community of designers artists and creatives at large around the world for free and ask yourself. What will you create today? You grew up on a ninety acre fruit ranch in the San Joaquin valley of California. That's right. What kind of fruit? Oh, all different kinds of fruit. Mainly raisin, grapes, and peaches and plums. And I understand that your parents were not really in who's Yass tick about education and thought that they assumed you would do what your sister's did which was to marry a local guy and stay in the area. But you were quite a good student, and at that time, what did you imagine that you were going to be when you grew up? Oh, I agreed with my parents when I was a little kid that I would just marry a local guy, and I would have my own farm. I was going to raise chickens for eggs only not for meat. And I just assume that I would do what they told me. I was go. To do. I had my first garden when I was only three years old. My mother brought me a little packet of radish seeds, and she taught me how to stick your finger in the dirt and put the seed in and cover it up of that tan. I that and I came back a few weeks later, and there was this marvelous little crooked row of frilly radish leaves. And I was so thrilled. I knew I had found my calling now I also know that you love to draw you less to make art and to so, and I believe you sued almost everything that you were as a kid as did many of your girlfriends. But is it true that you had little competitions? Who could so address for the least amount of money? We remember, we're all farm girls. So we don't have a whole lot of entertainment. We have to make our own entertainment, and we also darn close because nobody had much money. And so we decided we'd have a little competition to see who could so address for the least amount of money, and my friend, Vivian. Won the contest because she made address out of one of her mother's dresses, and she cut out the zipper and put it in her dress. So the cost of her dress was zero and she went our contest says she really hacked that one mother was a seamstress. And so I also grew up making all of my own clothes and one of my noted distinctions in high school was winning the home economics award because of hell, well, I could. So I had mad skills with the single ratchet relations. That's big. Now, one of your teachers rolling Jenkins introduced you to the American transcendental lists, and that introduced you first to the idea of independent thinking, and I'm wondering if you can give a little bit more detail about that. I couldn't find too much more in my research. Well, Mr. twin coons was our French teacher, and he also taught an English class in high school in highschool that it's pretty sophisticated stuff. Yeah. Yeah. It was one year. He thought that it would look really good on our college resumes in college applications, if we could have a kind of advanced seminar in English literature, and so he was a smoker and he took his his free session, which he usually used smoke. He took it to teach us a conference style class on the transcendental lists or on American literature. So we read everything we read Moby, Dick. We read Stephen crane. We read Thomas Wolf, we just read everything and my favor. It was thorough 's Walden that makes sense. Absolutely. Now, you chose to go to Reed college in Portland, Oregon because two of your best friends at home had an uncle who taught there, and they love the school. But you also kind what you've described as a very nice scholarship to go there. Now, Steve Jobs went there. But he didn't go at the same time. No, he was about five years younger than me. And I understand that you went there in the fall of nineteen sixty eight and stayed for two and a half years you left which was originally supposed to be a leave of absence, but ultimately became a permanent one. And you stated you left read for the same reasons that Steve Jobs left read. Well, I think that it's much the same reason Steve Jobs came from a working class family, and I came from a farming family. We both had scholarships. We both had loans, and I think that at some point you look at how much debt I mean. I'm sure every student in this room. Can relate to this. You're looking at how much debt you're building up. And you're wondering is this college degree really going to help me pay back this huge death? I will have accumulated by then. And so I took a leave of absence, and I just started doing funny little jobs and one of the funny little jobs. I did was doing calligraphy around town for people I did wedding announcements. I did sign and this was just because you had a desire to make these things you weren't thinking about becoming a calligrapher for by trade, or what were you studying in college? I was studying English literature. And then I switched over to be an art major because I met Lloyd Reynolds Yar at recall, and you said that he was a luminous prison. Oh, yeah. Everybody took his class. Whether you were a chemistry major or an English literature. Major whatever you were majoring in you took Lloyd Reynolds class. And in fact, people that I knew at Reed who are now doctors they still sit down every weekend in practice their calligraphy now. Tell us about how you got into Lloyd Reynolds class. I think it is a really good story to share. Well, I I went to read I was a freshman in the fall of nineteen sixty eight and Lloyd Reynolds classes, always filled up immediately. So there's no way I could get into his class, but he taught a little Tuesday afternoon seminar for people who couldn't get into the class. And so one Tuesday, I just went there. Somebody had given me an old pen, and I could use and Lloyd looked at it and said, well, this is no good. And he gave me a better pin, and he introduced me to chancery cursive. And that was it. That was the thing that changed my whole life. That's the power of teaching. That's why I you know, I really feel emotional when I think about these great high school teachers and Lloyd Reynolds, and the teachers I've had through the years, they really do change your life. I came upon a quote of his to make a beautiful laundry list is as important as anything you see. In a museum, and you then said that he taught you the whole world through the history of writing and the history of calligraphy. That's right. He used to teach art history at Reed. In fact, there's kind of an interesting story because he grew up in Montana. He was from kind of a forestry fan. I think that's what he studied originally. And then he was read teaching art history and one year the big furnace in Elliott hall just collapsed. So there would be no heat and they decided that in order to buy a new furnace. They would have to fire the junior most faculty member who was Lloyd Reynolds. No. So he was very close to being fired. And then this hero. Janitor stepped in and said, you know, I think I can tinker with that furnace and get it running again. And so he got the furnace running again and Lloyd Reynolds didn't lose his job and Elliott hall state heated, and so we really owe a lot of mothers Apocrypha do the hero. Senator who could sink your with to find his name, and we do? Yeah. You also steady calligraphy and brush writing with Robert Pella, Dino at read, and that point we you starting to think that you might take this more seriously and become more professional in with this work. Well, I was at that time Robert palladino had been chosen by Lloyd Reynolds to takeover Lloyd's position when he retired and palladino had gone to Davenport, Iowa to study brush written Roman capitals with father catch and at that time that was a very unusual skill, and it was very hard to find anybody who would teach it to you. And I think that's kind of why Reynolds chose palladino so palladino came and he was teaching calligraphy and brush writing, and I actually wanted to go ahead and learn stone carving because the way you make stone signs is that you brush, the letters on the side of the stone. And then you come. Cut it with a chisel. And I asked father palladino if he would teach me that. And he said that catch never taught women because their risks were too weak to carve the letters. Now. There are some wonderful female stone utter. Yeah, they're wonderful female leader Lopez Cardozo and a woman in Sweden who are magnificent stone carvers, and there are plenty strong enough to do it. Anyway, he wouldn't teach me how to do. So that was the end of that dream. Now, you've stated that calligraphy literally means beautiful writing. But to you it also means efficient writing. So can you talk a little bit about the distinction? Well, calligraphy really was originally not invented but developed for reproduction of books because if you can't print books you have to have some way to write them out to share the literature. So I think that these scripts evolved over time not to be fancy or eye-catching. But just to kind of get the job done, and what evolved where letter forms that are very efficient. Every major part of the letter is done with only a single stroke. So if you're doing hand lettering with crow quill pen or something you do a whole bunch of little strokes to outline the letter. But with calligraphy, you just go, and there's your letter I learned this. While researching you, and I am a stone did at the difficulty of calligraphy which looked so effortless and beautiful and is almost irrevocable like it's just not something you can do easily. It's something that requires so much more skill than meets the eye. Yeah. They say that it takes ten years to make a good calligrapher. And when I heard that during my first year, I thought, oh, no, I'm never gonna make it. But but I did make it at just one step at a time after you left. Read I understand that you had a job at home. Ullmark cards in Kansas City. How did you get that job? And what did you do there? I was a lettering designer there. But I didn't last very long. I got the right. Yeah. Two months. I got the job because you fired to quit. I was not fired. I quit. Hallmark hearts was just interested in finding lettering designers, and they ask for portfolios. I sent my portfolio and they hired me. But when I got there, I just found that I really didn't like the work very much the sort of saccharin messages that we were writing out. It's a wonderful place to work, and I learned a lot about hand, lettering, just in two months, but I just thought, you know, I I really don't want to do this forever. So I left the job had a major detour in your life. At this point. You decide that you want to study dance you want to become a professional dancer. No that wasn't at this point in my life. The reason I decided to study dance was way back at read. I used to hang around the read calligraphy studio because Lloyd Reynolds hung around there too. And you could go in and watch him just practicing with his big quite pin? A letters just kind of flowing out of his hand like water. I love to watch him and one day. He kind of put his pen down and he growled at me. So you wanna get into calligraphy high? I said, oh, yes. Professor reynolds. I do his if you wanna be a good calligrapher kid into modern dance. That's where you really learn. How to you know, move that pen across the paper. So I ran right out and signed up for a modern dance class. And again, I had the luck of finding a fantastic teacher. Judith massey. Taught there at read, and she was so inspirational that I thought I wanted to be a professional dancer, and so you went to New York now, I believe it was was it after hallmark yellow. It was adult palmar off your high tail it to New York decide so at that point you studied with Martha Graham at the Martha Graham, San wool at the school, and you studied at the Alwin Nikolai school. Yeah. That's correct. And so what made you decide not to be a professional dancer? Well, I wasn't good enough. It says. It's that simple. I went there, and I took classes and I went to audition. But just technically I was never going to be a top modern dancer. But while I was in New York. I took a class at SPA. Yes. You did. Ed, Ben GATT. Yes. You did. I interviewed him last year, quite a feisty interview. We had. Yeah. And he taught hand lettering. And that was really the another in a string of great teachers that was another teacher and he took me from being a calligrapher to being a lettering designer. And he was incredible. His finish work was just so perfect. And at that time the way you did finish work in lettering was with black ink in a crow quill pen. And then you corrected your mistakes with white Plaka, and it was so agonizing. I was never very good at that. But he he was great at it. So I took his class. And I thought okay, I'm failing as a modern dancer, but Alba. I could succeed as a lettering designer. Understatement of the day. Was it hard at the time to give up the dream of dance. No because it was so obvious to me. And I thought that I was terrible. So I will just dance as a hobby, which I have most of my life and did it improve your brush skills. You know, I don't know. Maybe it did the real secret to your success. So that modern dance training. Right. So you guys get out there and take a modern dance class. You're going to do it. Now, you also had a job at a book publishing company at that time where you sort of an old school layout in paste up. I was a paste girl at HP two. I was at a cable magazine in the early eighties. I loved it. I didn't is well paying job. You just have their pasting down. High standards. It was Wilfing then I loved that job. I was I was sorry to see paste up go because it was just a nice way to make some money now, then you decided to go back to school, and it might have the chronology a little bit off because you went back to school, and then we're working in back to school. But you did go to Harvard. I did and you do have a degree from Harvard. Harvard extension school you've left out a very important part of this Hillary because I might get to it. But I might be out border. So swear, I get together with Chuck. Yes. So after I left read, I was always meant check at read. I oh, that's right. I met drew through Reynolds. No. I met him through. We're gonna have a little war here. Your life. So I I met Chuck through an Italian mime and circus clown. Okay. He. No. I mean, really a real clown. Not a clown clown real, and he was hired his name was Carlo Mazzone, and he was a fantastic actor. He had worked with the peak. Hello Tayo tro in Milan and read hired him for one semester, only to teach circus tricks and Komeda del art and mime. And so I thought well, I've got to take that class at that point. I was a sophomore at read. So I signed up for the class and Chuck had already met Carlo in San Francisco. So even though Chuck had graduated from Reed he would walk down and audit the class, and that was how we met and for the first five years that we knew each other. We were just part of a big group of friends with similar interests. And then when I got back from my job at hallmark. I was always looking for a job. So I took my paste portfolio down to a radical magazine, and Chuck was the art director there, and I said, well, do you need any help? And he said as a matter of fact, I do and so he hired me as a. Faced up girl for the it was called the Oregon times we worked together and went out to lunch once in a while and one thing led to another and pretty soon, we were an item. What was that one thing that led to the other? I'm not telling. Couldn't find that my research either. Although I know that he did ask you to come back when you went to New York. Yes. So you must have had some little sort of feelings at that point. Yeah, we both had feelings at that point. I you know, I left to go to New York because I thought I've got to take a shot at this dance idea. But very soon I found out that wasn't working. And so Chuck said, we'll look into your enjoying this lettering job, and Chuck was a letter press printer, and he was doing a lot of writing about typography, and I was a calligrapher. And he said, look, you know, I know about letter press printing typography, you know, about calligraphy and lettering. We've got everything it takes to be type designers. So come back, and we'll start designing typefaces and you did. And I did and we became Bigelow and Holmes and you've been doing that ever since we've been doing ever think deserves around apply. Oh, sorry to be bossing. But I'm just so moved by your life story and your body of work and the impact that you've had in our business and our community and just need to say. Thank you. Oh, well, it was our pleasure. Really was it's been a wonderful way to spend our lives together. Harvard doing at Harvard. Well, so Chuck out a job at wristy. I think somebody said that they were from rusty here. And. Okay. The contingent over there. So Chuck got a job teaching at wristy. So he had to move back east, and I took a job at compu- graphic, which is now a subsidiary of monotype. But at that time, it was independent. I learned how to do typography on a compu- graphic machine. Will you may have used some of the funds that I, you know, pasted on the little cards Audis Hanyu and souvenir souvenir? I think I worked on that. Okay. So Chuck said, well, we'll be type designers, and then he got a job teaching and I got the job at compu- graphic. And then kind of an interesting thing happened. There was a firm in Germany called Dr king Rudolf hell in other words, Dr hill, and they had developed a new machine to release in America. It was called the digit set, and it was a very high resolution printer for that time. And they wanted to hire Chuck as their American typographic consultant. So they sent to America mocks cuff leash who was their European typographic consultant he had been a student of Yang chick hold very, well educated and very talented, man. And so he was going to interview Chuck for the job and Chuck said, why don't you come with me? You know, they're looking for original designers and bring your portfolio and come with me. I said I can't do that. It's it's your interview. And he said, oh, come on. It's going to be fun. Let's go. So I finally said, okay. I'll go on. I put together my portfolio, and one of the things I had in it where those brush written letters that. I never got to carve in stone. But I had them brush written and mocks cuff leash was very impressed by that. Because it was a hard skill to find at that time. So Chuck was hired as their consulted. And I was asked to submit proposals for a new original design for the digit. Now, I believe at that time. You started a technique that I believe. Have you still sometimes used today with Mylar? That's great. Yeah. That's can you talk a little bit about that. Well, I did get the job doing original designs for them. And I had to draw every letter I didn't do the production myself, I shipped it to Germany. But after the first batch that I shipped they said, well, it's all the wrong size. You haven't drawn as but. Yeah. Right. Whoops. But I knew that I had and I realized it was done on paper which was shrinking and expanding as it went over the ocean. So I started drawing on Mylar which is completely stable, and I've I've just used that technique ever since nine H pencil on Mylar incredible now while you were maintaining your studio. You also often took other jobs Chuck was invited as you mentioned to teach typography fulltime at wristy. You took your job with compu- graphic now compu- graphic in addition to it also being what I I worked on. It was the first corporation in the US. US to install the ecosystem, which I know was very very important to you with. That's one of the reasons you actually wanted to work there. Can you talk a little bit about that software? Well, at that time they had a special group that did all of the isthmus production, and they had a huge flatbed cutting machine. And so we would draw the type and then somebody in the production department would actually digitize the letters, and then they would have I mean it was old fashioned production. They would actually be cutting the letters in ruby lifts Nabi. Yeah. Not digital side for ruby le-let, though. Hitter of age, actually, I loved ruby live. It was so much better than the black ink in the white Plaka as you like amber lists, an ambulance. Same thing. I like both of them. I wish I still mainlanders that way. Sometimes. So anyway, they had a whole production department that that took care of all the issues work for us. But I got to learn about what the system was and understand how everything worked, and then it was after that that I got the job as an original designer for the digit you worked on the software for twenty seven years. Yes, why did you have to give it up? It was just a little bit cumbersome to handle great big character set. So we were starting to work on LUSA 'Grande, which has a huge character set of Latin letters, and we were also designing Greek and surreal, IQ, and Arabic and tie. And just a a lot of international scripts, and it was really hard to just keep track of that character set in echoes now after sev-. Will years Chuck left his job? At RAs, d you left your job at compu- graphic at which point you declared that you were in heaven you had a little studio in your apartment on Irving street near Julia child who you would see in the nearby market. And you spend every evening working on ideas for typefaces. That's right. That was our typical day is that we would take care of all the stuff that we were doing to make money and then in the evening after dinner, we would just sit down and talk about an original typeface. How would we design because in those days, you couldn't find a class in type design you could find a class in calligraphy? But I think Ed was one of the few people teaching and that was your only formal training. Yes. Training with Ed. Yes. This is extraordinarily. Well, it was really hard to figure how to decide to it. It really took us every night talking about everything and and trying to figure out how to do it. Then we got a lucky break because Chuck had. Studied linguistics at read and he had gone up to the university in Seattle and found a set of stories that were told to a collector of native American stories Melville Jacobs. The lady's name was MRs Victoria Howard. She was the last living storyteller of her people. If you can imagine being the last person who speaks your language that was her. And so the linguist Melville Jacobs collected her stories, and he had typed them out in some special way with a special typewriter, and they were all filed away in the library at the university. And Chuck had the idea that we could design all the special phonetic characters needed to accommodate that language because at the time he had a set of syntax, and he hounds Meier's syntax, and he was doing a lot of printing jobs with that. So he said, well, you know, let's see if we can contact Hans Meyer and see if he would help us figure out how to add these characters, and we also went out. To Mergen taller, Mike Parker. And we have Matthew Carter to talk about having them produce. This font once we had done the extra characters, and we got this letter from Hans Meyer all written out by hand saying he would be very proud and happy to help us do this. So he sent us the drawings, and then I cut the ruby lists. And we actually made the fun, and it was the beginning of a lifelong friendship with Hans Meyer. That's extraordinary talk about the creation of Lucinda Lucinda. Well, it really started. I think in those evenings. When I was in heaven talking to Chuck about doing these original designs, we wanted to design a family of typefaces at that time that hadn't really been done except yawn. Von krimpen. We were inspired very much by his work of designing a matching Saraf and San Sierra face. And we wanted to do our own set of faces like that Sarafina sand Saraf, and in the end, we've done many other variations and. And so we just decided to do it. We didn't have a customer for it. We didn't have a commission for it. We didn't have anything we just sat down and did it inspiration. Just inspiration. Did scientific American then want to commission you've for that face? They commissioned us to redesign the magazine. So our design of scientific American was used for about nine or ten years and the fonts that we chose were lucid a bright, which is the Sarah version of Lucinda. And then we drew a special. Headline font called Galileo that was used for the headlines and did Chuck choose the name because the typeface was you wanted it to be made of light. Yes. Right. So lucid a I think one of the meanings of that word is filled with light. I read that you didn't want something too fancy. You didn't want something unapproachable? You wanted something based on traditional pen drawn letter forms, but something that was modern and clear about kind of create. Briefest? Well, remember wanted to do everything for everybody. Yeah. Right. Well, actually at that time we were designing for printers that were three hundred DPI. So we couldn't do a very delicate, but Doni kind of design it had to be something that was tough. I think Jerry munch once described it as a workhorse face and I loved that. That was exactly what we wanted was just a face that would not degrade under these really pretty bad. Printing, conditions legibility was the priority or yeah, absolutely legibility, when you design the Greek characters, I read that the first thing you did was get out your pen and look at Greek manuscripts and figure out how to write that with a pen. And I was wondering why. Well, we start all of our designs with a pen, even something like Lucinda, that's a sand. Sarah, we always sit down with broad edge pens, and we basically caligraphy very simply how we want the letters to look one of the illustrations that were showing back. There is of a poem that I wrote in. A Greek script. It's just the way I like to do calligraphy. I I don't like to go from a model sheet that another teacher did I like to look at a manuscript and figure out how they did it just figure out what the proportions are. And how did they do each letter? And so that was what we did for the Greek have you gone back to any of the earlier lucid, a fons or typefaces and redone them. We recently did redo lucid Agron day for apple because they were bringing out the retina screen and the original lucid Agron day looked a little bit light. So they had us just embolden it just a tiny bit. And there were a couple of letters that people had never liked and this chance to like the five they said that the five looks too much like an s so we redo the five that's fine. What other letters didn't? They like they didn't like my anchor sand. Why? Well, they thought it looks like a crooked back or something. I thought it looked great. But I said, okay, I can do it. So and so tell us what it was like to work with apple. It's been always great to work with apple. I never actually met Steve Jobs myself, but Chuck did go to a meeting, and he was there and I exchanged emails with him. And he was always very kind to us and the people that that were in the groups that we were working with. We're just always very. Very very respectful of what we were doing for them. We also did for them apple chancery. Yes. The story there is that they apple was bringing out a new technology called g x and g x is basically what open type is except that g x lived in the operating system. So it didn't have to be supported by all these different kinds of software. It was a great idea. And so they called us in. And they said we want you to design a font that has a lot of alternate characters that shows off what g x can do. And they showed us a page out of an Italian writing masters book. And we said, okay, we can do it. And I just sat down and drew all these variations of the characters see final forms and initial forms and small caps and fancy small caps in the end it had a thousand and one characters in it. And I wanted to name it side for the thousand one nine isn't that a great idea? Great idea. No it didn't. Leave. No, it wouldn't fit on the pull down menu. So they rejected migrate idea. And they called it apple chancery, and that's really creative. Now, speaking of letters that are liked what are the hardest letters fee to draw w well, we're case and capital, you how many type design how many people find the w really mystifying. Yeah. Mystified as well. Right. A lot of people. It's straight lines. But everyone has to be at exactly the right angle or it looks not good. So w any others any others give you grief. Well, the funnest one is lower case g now you'd think that would be hard. But because it's all curves. But it's fun. You kind of can't go wrong with it. You can do you know, you can change proportions, and and all kinds of it always just looks great. Do you believe that letter forms have personalities? I think different fonts have personalities, but the actual letter form itself. Like, you said a G is fun because of all the curves. Would you ever think of describing g in a certain way, I Herbie I sometimes call the loaders little puppy dogs, and oh what a baby doll and stuff like that. But. But. But I guess I name them. So maybe I see something there. So talk about wing dings oh wing dings wing dings was originally designed as a part of the lucid a family. It was originally going to be three separate fonts Lucinda stars and EROs and lucid icons and something else. And we were doing a lot of work for Microsoft at that time, and so they called and they said, well, we actually want to own this this we want to call it wing dings, not ding, bats. We're going to name it wing dings. And we'd like to just by the font from you. And we said, okay, just the font or did the stars not. They did they bought all three funds. And then they rearranged the arrangement of the characters. So you've worked with Microsoft with apple you've worked with compu- graphic you worked with every major type house, which is your favorite. Also I worked with monotype. And which is my faith. You know, my favorite is whoever I'm working with them. And it sort of depends on the group that you're. Working with. So, you know, it's not like you make a presentation to the entire group at at Microsoft, you meet a certain group of people. They have a need that you're going to supply a font for and you just get to know those people and because you're working pretty intensely together. And usually under some deadlines, and you get to know them, well, and you kind of get to love them. And so it's whoever I'm working with now you in check do a lot of the same things and you worked together, very intently tensely. What happens when you disagree about the direction of a letter form? You know, we disagree about things like the ice machine in the freezer because I I find it completely incomprehensible and once in a while I fill the freezer with ice cubes. So anyway, we we have the regular arguments about things like that. And who's going to do the dishes? But you know, we have never had an argument about a design issue, maybe because we studied with the same teacher. So we're kind of starting from the same place. And if we do disagree. We just say, hey, let's try it both ways. And then usually the answer becomes apparent that? We can agree on. And who's usually right. Oh. I don't think I'm gonna tell you that. Now you also worked with Google you. Go language people at Google commissioned typeface from you to bundle with the go language or go Lang is that how you pronounce it. I don't know what they call it sounded very gulag to me. And I was getting nervous. But I understand you work with rob pike who co invented the plan nine from bell labs operating system, which used the lucid Afonso. What was that experience like to sort of come full circle in that way? Oh, we've known rob for twenty five years, and he's a great guy. So it was perfectly natural. He had used the lucid of funds for plan nine, and he always does his programming in a lucid Ifan because he loves it. And so he wanted a new fought for his language, and so it just seemed perfectly natural in. I think one of the reasons that we've been able to work together so efficiently, and happily is that we we make relationships with the people that we work with and we usually really like these people. So when they come back for something, it's very easy and very efficient to just slide back into it. What other projects are you working on? Now. Can you talk about any of them? I can I mean, it's my company I can talk about whatever I want to. I'm right now, I'm doing another script typeface. So I did is Dora. That was my first original font. And I did it for Dr hill. And then I did a font called colour Bree for the U R W people in Germany, and now I'm doing a third script, which is it's very challenging to do these. And I want to name it after my cat. Her name is fear rela. And so I think I'm going to name it if we can do that we're going to name it fear. You heard it here first. Yep. You heard it here. First anything else any other projects? I'm writing my memoirs CK's whenever I tell people about my crazy life. They always say, oh, you, you know, you need to write this down. And so I decided I'll write it down. So I was absolutely flummoxed. As I was preparing for the interview thinking, how is it possible to talk to Chris Holmes about her life in forty minutes? It's just not it's not even fair. But at least I got a little bit of an opportunity to share some of your remarkable story with our audience today. You know, I read someplace that you should be able to tell your life story and five words, what would they be? If you if you had to do that. Well, you know at first, you know, you think I can never lose it as a door of. Okay. It my life. In five words is one is farm to is read three is calligraphy for is Chuck and five is LUSA. That's my and you can all do it to try it. You'll figure it out. I am going to try that Thang. Okay. So have one last question for you you, and Chuck are one of the few design teams that have worked with metal type and letter press printing photo typesetting and digital type. What's your order of preference? Oh, it would just depend on the job. I think there's a certain kind of literature that looks really good printed letter press. And it looks really good. If you have some original characters designed for the letter press process, and there are other kinds of literature that you just have to do it digitally. So it would depend on what the literature was is one make your heart sing more than another. No. At stick. There are different kinds of literature that make my heart sing, I think I think a reason for our success is that we both love literature that was kind of our inspiration where those native American Tex I've like Fiona said that she started with literature, and we did too. So if you want to be a type designer find something you really love and make type for it. Chris holmes? Thank you so much for being with my type. My type of concrete and thank you for bringing all of the union that you have to our world. Oh, thank you, very well gentleman, the one and only Chris Holmes? For more information about design matters or to subscribe, your newsletter would a Debbie Noman dot com. If you love this podcast, he's consider contributing to our drip, Kickstarter community members. Get early access to the podcast transcripts of every interview attentions to live interviews culinary sessions with guests and a brand new annual magazine, you can learn more about this at D dot rip slash Debbie slash millman. That's D dot rip slash, Debbie. Dash mill. 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Under the Radar 176: That's Great, Apple, But
"Welcome to under the radar a show about independent IOS APP development. I'm Marco Arment and I'm David Smith under the radar is never longer than thirty minutes so let's get started so we are now entering the fall months and at least if you're in the northern hemisphere if you're in the southern hemisphere you can just imagine yourself on a cool crisp night you get to the end but wouldn't it be nice if I could get more money from my users periodically through some kind of purchase mechanism inside of my application and apple said so everything is happy in-app land where making making these apps we're able to build them up into products that we can potentially even sell to other people something that's just just has you know sure that does seem like a nice thing in especially because you know we have this this concept of a paid up like a perfect place for this so we'll make this thing called because a free APP should be free and paid APP is where we pay for things make sense this goes on for a very short amount of time and give this APP or sell this APP to someone else I don't WanNa have to create a shell company and do some weird out like company transfer thing and get lawyers involved to do to start off our show and it's a story about something near and dear to our hearts the story of the APP store name of the story is that's Great Apple Org yes you have the ability to transfer APPs between developer accounts we'll make that happen and I think you're being very kind with a few caveats this is Marco we're saying we're sitting by a fire this is this is the happy version of this story uncle Dave just just stop interrupting come they they start to think to themselves and they say this is great apple but you know I've made this APP it's making all this money like things are great I would like to be able to of my free APP like that would be great and originally apple said well a free APP should be free and paid APP is where the pain should happen but okay sure let's let's due in-app purchases and free apps well this is great and over idea of interesting things start to come out of this and the absolute grows I just like transfer this like in a clean way within the APP store like that'd be wonderful and with a few caveats and issues on the way apple says okay I began people have been holding stars hostage it's really awkward thanks every time I do an update my star review my star rating reverts back housing for mobile platforms doesn't exist because mobile platforms only just barely exist so in APP is free were not paid and this it is simple time people understand that you get you get an APP and it's free our developers get together and say that's great apple but I make free APPs wouldn't it be great if I could make money and pay for people pay for things inside APPs store develops and things progress for several years and then apple makes a ton of money from it all and everybody makes lots of money it's tons of money in fact people have been are making so much money it's free and if you pay for something you paid for it and this goes great for a while but eventually APP developers come together and say that's Great Apple Napa purchase rather than just paying for something upfront you can also pay for things subsequently inside of the APP and this is only available for paid applications Oh but so story begins all great stories in two thousand and eight I'm not sure wild story started need two thousand and eight but that's me this one starts and the Soares's simpler place it is a place where apps are either free or paid and at the time there's not much in the way of advertising because eight apple but could we do something about this we make it so that our review stars don't reset all the time and apple says well I mean it's tricky because his hero and that kind of is awkward I don't really want to have to be scared of of submitting updates just because it's going to reset my rating and then people won't buy my APP it's it's awful so this is is button since you know we have to think about review stars review stars now they are they have been an issue for us the whole time in since the APP store for I mean part of why we want to do that is because we want the APP the rating to reflect the current state of the application and so if we don't let the the we'll get rid of that now things progress things develop the APP store a rich and vibrant ecosystem and it is on ever increasingly reading every said it could be a little awkward but you know I think you're right I think it's better overall for people to not be shy about issuing updates because they're worried that it's going to review the rings passive devices and these devices have increasingly impressive giving more capabilities and one of these things that they get is a magical technology called touch ID that people can just instantaneously buying our stuff and that could go wrong now one thing that has always kind of sat in the back of our minds take money and apple says absolutely we're GonNa make touch ID just use for purchasing anywhere you want and so this is great it makes it so seemless and flawless in there but you'll be even better than in purchase is rather than just asking them to give us money once wouldn't it be great if we get money multiple times so in a purchases great apple but can't we do subscriptions can't we have them just keep giving us money forever like that seems way better than a one time purchase like who wouldn't want which it does away with the the need to enter in our apple. Id Password every time we want to buy something and if at first into this and says sure go ahead you can have subscriptions in anything you haunt for basically any reason you want just ask people for money and they will give it to you this was not necessarily the intention of this technology but it's something that apple does and we say this is great apple but can we use this for any purchases to like this everywhere that someone's keep giving us money forever for APP Developers Service and so apple says okay yes we're GONNA do subscriptions but if I were only going to do it for content apps and then okay well expanded a little bit and we'll do it for APPS that have like network components kind of this ongoing physical tangible cost wherever wonderful things progress things get great and then the last thing that we think about is you know it is Kinda hard though apple for people and then eventually you know we say this is great apple but we really want is to be able to offer ask subscriptions for anything we want and eventually apple gives money and we will put your APP in front of users and you can use this to promote engagement you can do all kinds of things where you can buy keywords related to to other people's applications you can put your up in front of someone who trying to compete with like this is a really useful way for us to kind of expand our reach in the APP store last time this is great apple but couldn't you give us a way to do this and they say yes we will do search ads and we will let you provide a mechanism by which you can give us very has a bit of immoral and the unfortunate moral for this particular story is that all of these things that apple has done for us over the years and this is largely where we find ourselves now so we've brought ourselves back from the years of two thousand and eight to two thousand nineteen and all of these ways that apple has in aggregate in isolation are all positive for the platform and I think they're certainly caveats and tricky things with that but overall they're pretty good in hand and improve the APP store and like all good stories that one tells sitting by a fire on Chris Autumn night this story golfers it's like well we like making money and money is great me like this inner purchase thing it's great isn't all in all of our apps now whether it makes sense or not I use it to make scams to re people off and that is the moral of our story because reason I tell told to tell the story is good but the awkward moral if these things anytime apple has given us anything inevitably people find a way to use it to make terrible things and find an APP that was one successful or at least been in the APP store for a long time ranks reasonably well for search you buy it from someone who knows how much find my app I really wish there was a way that I could take some of this money that I'm getting all the time from all my s. in-app purchases exceptions but my apple has all these great starring Carey Really Subscriptions Lots of subscriptions for a kind of absurd amounts of money where it's like I'm going to charge you five dollars a week for this APP that I don't know is a bubble level I think thinking about that has made me tremendously sympathetic to apple and sympathetic for how difficult position they find themselves in because we will ask mm situation in the APP store that I just think it drew my eye because of how all these things that apple's done to improve our lives over the over the years makes deep possible by all of these technologies and all these things that apple did for our benefit that we asked for and then someone will find a way to make a terrible and lots of money really easily from anywhere in the world so of course you're going to have a huge attack surface there for scams and fraud button with your thumb and you have a touch ID phone while you just bought the subscription whether or not you realize they're not and this is the scam that is currently in the APP store I mean I don't know how broad this is I've seen is the you know the APP transfer mechanism when you do the transfer you keep their view stars then you change the APP so that it is full of in-app purchases and ask for things that will make us better and that four the serve the ethical moral developer would serve tools for good for making more sustainable businesses for making scammed by a few minor changes like for instance I think you should probably consider resetting the APP summary Rating when it changes ownership and also if it adds like side loading or anything apple has placed themselves in the role of gatekeepers and police of the APP store and they it is their responsibility there for two it myself several times with competitor's for me this is an APP that this is a situation that becky ran into and just kind of sad to me that all of it is that someone will always find a way to make it into something awful I mean this is a combination of a bunch of different factors and problems and design flaws that because they you make it so that they can't easily get out of the APP like you just keep showing them the subscription prompt and so what are they wanna go to the home button to get out of the APP and if you press the some of them they're not and I feel like one of the reasons we keep getting these scams you know this is this is one of many APP store scams which they responsibility to trudge design the UI and the purchase flows and things like that in the first place to be more resilient try to avoid situations like this being possible when one is possible it's their responsibility to crack down into to filter out as much as possible search ads like just all the money with search ads and I'm going to try and write just just pour money into that I get a certain a relatively high number of people downloading the up the APP is free ORB is a background is like contains backgrounds that you can set free citizens wallpaper or something like that fills with those I'm going to buy tons and tons of and are always going to be possible and are always going to be exploited and they're just you know it's it's kind of a game a whack a mole that apple has to play because what apple has created is a way for people to me so apple is really making a lot of money from these mistakes and they also have a strong monetary incentive to keep the purchase flow. I wish I could put my APP in front of people whether or not it necessarily makes sense or not or just WanNa be able to give you money and you give exposure so apple sit and so we say it to happen funds but I bet it's not most even if it's just some that's still a ton of money going through the after the customers didn't intend and apple gets thirty percent of all that things more rely more better relationships with our customers that make a better user experience like in many ways are so good and then you combine them all together into away and apple has also inserted themselves by doing preview by requiring all Iowa software to to run through APP review and to be in the APP store and not having not having so there's a lot of different factors here that like apple has a pretty strong cynical financial incentive to not slow this down too much but obviously they have the responsibility as the APP store gatekeepers and police to to clamp down on obvious scams and throughout the last few years and to fraud attempts to to be easier for customers to spot fraud and deal with it and avoid it and some of those things apple's doing good job on and I think the ones since subscription billings have been available to all APPS I think I think they've gotten worse and it's tricky because apple makes a lot of money from the an APP that prompts you for subscription for feature that whether APP and it's like Oh you know subscription free make this particular scam possible and make it make it effective and you know and I feel like they could change this they could totally neutralize the scam or mostly always per week because I believe the shortest interval apple will let you do that if you were just skimming it for the price you might you would never assume it would be a weekly interval mood and easy and as few steps as possible because they don't want people to be roadblocks when they're trying to spend money because again not only is it a bad experience but again apple makes money from all this during APP review and to whatever degree is not possible for that to be actively policing the APP store for this kind of stuff but these scams insurance them down and and clearly tell people like hey you're about to spend you know X. dollars per week or per month on this thing I would like to see things like the sheets more than you might have thought or more and then they ought to renew really quickly after that week and you get built and and you know what percentage of those will not get refunded the removes or changes what purchases are available that seems like kind of an easy way to nip this in the bud but the reality is that scams like this are always going to exist designed and you know again I I think this is designed for this design over function here but you know it's it's a interval that always shows so they can have some better idea of what it is I would also suggests that APP review should be extra critical and take an extra strong look at as we get it right away then they they're lambasted with all of these things to try and get subscriptions if they touch ID phone you can do all kinds of really fun tricks where it's like tiny all caps black text against a white background and it's it it looks pretty I guess but it's terrible conveyance of clear information impossible for people to do this game and there's a great summary of the scam that becky Hans Meyer wrote on her blog which goes for like how to flip and a half for a profit and by the way the game works is you and and and the price of course it was small and so they they would make some price that you would assume would be the price per month or per year and it was actually per week so you're spending four and a quarter times or two of the wave reviews are some are between certain changes that's all
137: Porn trolling lawyers, Insta hacking, and Ctrl-Alt-LED
"When you press caps lock your caps look like comes on an as does numb local scroll look why even bother putting screw lock keepers but now I debate basically a disco going on in your house is crazy must have so much fund there with your husband smashing security episode one hundred thirty seven even porn trolling lawyers into hacking and control old hallyday with Carol -Tario and grand clearly hello hello and welcome smashing security episode one hundred thirty seven? My name is Graham clearly and I'm carol -Tario Hello Electoral. Hello Graham welcome back from Canada. We missed odds. You're someone this January well yeah. It's it's great to be back. I'm jet LAG. Does anything so forgive any a- modu you were on the show so it's not like anyone who listens to the show missed you know they don't miss me at all you in fact. Oh missed me no-one. no-one missed me. I'll tell you have to be missing a Hervey missing that lovely Maria for mouse's. She's the best where is she when she gonNA come back on the show straight come on. Oh should be wonderful. Wouldn't she hang on the INTERWEBS. Who's that knocking at digital virtual door? Who's that WHO forgot her? Mute Button was on her mike this entire time talking humidity you wondering why you've been ignoring a high crow keep on ignored mine blink sat me when it's on you and even then. I didn't notice that I was needed so hi okay. This is great so I'm jet LAG brands obviously insane. This is going to be a great show. Well I'll tell you what has changed is that now. Smashing security is on Patriot. Is it patriots patron who cares it's exciting. It is exciting and if you want to support us going checker sound patron and we'll talk a little bit more about that maybe at the end of the show the very end of the very just for those who really wanNA listen the real antics yeah the real cool fans Tadiran Crow. What else are we got coming up on the show this week well I high five to this week sponsors last pass and medic compliance their support helps us give you this show for free and on today's show Graham looks to the keyboard for crazy militias shenanigans as difficult to say Maria waxes lyrical cool about recent INSTA- Snafu and I see just what kind of judges Marine Graham would make were they in charge of punishing scammers all this and keeps more coming up on this episode of smashing security in the hot seat again again segment okay chaps chaps champs? I want you to picture the scene right you. Tom Cruise know. What's that not Avellino Stars movies? I don't like look at my height. Though you'll probably slightly taller than the Real Tom Cruise I think he comes in about four foot nine or some. Where's Cuban heels? I'm sure not just Cuba under the he's got Dominican Republic. He's got all kinds of stuff going on a <unk> anyway Tom Cruise or rather as mission impossible Otago Ethan hunt say well carefully pays. You are international women of mystery and you like nothing better. Jump out of a plane that five thousand feet extolling the virtues of L. Ron Hubbard while having a fish tank explode behind you did you did you watch the highlights of the movie just to get all those. Yes yes okay good. It's my name is ready. I'm sure I'm sure oppression clamp. I'm sure you may you remember in mission impossible movie even if you haven't seen famous scene where he's trying to get some data of an air gap computer Aloni's drop like a fish copyright copyright Shit America now anyway you remember he's trying to get the Detroit they're right and in the movie their lasers probably of pressure pads and temperatures <music> sensors and the whole bullies dangled by wires and lowered from ventilation shaft by Jeanrenaud very sexy gender knows me if you like that sort of pleasure bencher swell the Frenchman and we just seconds despair eh before the the spoiled comes back in two to deal with the computer anyway but you might just shove his U._S._B.. Stick into the computer nab the data and vote SCARPA her success now these adept computers something which have caught the attention over the years of a bunch of researches at the Ben Grimm University of the Negev in Israel okay. You know what I heard that before have you not they're quite big in the world aside a security they to you really funky research into crazy shit <hes> including getting Detroit air gap computers now on this particular occasion the new research which they published okay is all about about trying to steal data but doing it via the keyboard so I wanted to look at the keyboards in front of you right <hes> now if you've got an old fashioned sort of P._c.. Keyboard you know the the type of a number pad you forgot buttons with Weird Words and let print screen six rook and scroll look. It's an ever used the scroll look button not in a long time hose break on a regular sized P._C.. Keyboard you'll see some of that and right up there in the top right next to it. You'll see threes. Lights likes quite often. which are the scroll? Look the num- lock and the caps lock. Do you have one of these keyboards <hes> oh I'll have went somewhere in the office yeah. I'm using one right now. They got a big fan of the mechanical keyboard. I'm a Dork for them. Yes I am has these lights and things doesn't doesn't it also has rainbow L._e._D.'s underneath it that are I love Maria so much so my husband and I in the same room have mechanical keyboards so the two all of us typing at the same time it's amazing cacophony anyway Victorian work houses bracket sure eleven murder she wrote so as you know a and for people who don't have this kind of visconti keyboard normal people damn when you press caps lock your caps lock but like comes on an as does numb local scroll look the why they even bother putting scroll look on keyboards. I've got no idea benway. Basically it's like a disco going on in your house isn't as crazy must have so much fun there with your husband she is she's she has normally the life of swamp rat so when she sees a few lights on her keyboard George she goes in completely sorry for these Israeli research as they say that this is the way in which data could be stolen from a computer what this is if there was malware uh on the computer which could access data but because it's air gapped because it's not connected the internet or of a networks they don't have a way of sending that data which they want still backed the evil hacker overlord. There's no Internet connection what they can do. Ms This can take data which wants to expedite it can encode the data into three bit chunks so every little bite of data which nominee <hes> is about like eight bits or something it it makes it into chunks of three rebids instead so it'll be something like zero zero zero right of you mentioned in Bunuel's zero zero one zero one zero on one or the the yeah exactly Zeros or off and one means lit so imagine those numbers being gene like the lights on your keyboard right now Maria right now in front of you might be caps lock on or something like that. Mine goes through all those colors. It doesn't do this fan. Okay it's right now. It's like a purple pink so I don't think that's very helpful for bender. Okay okay. Maybe come up with defense identity. Nobody nobody almost people's keeps it would come up maybe like green l._e._d.. And that means that that particular light is on right and if someone could see or even better record those who's lights flickering on and off as the malware tells each one of those limits to turn off to signify different characters. It's basically slowly spells it out for Yeah Yeah Yeah Holy Moly really want to get on this machine a crow. This is Israeli researchers. This is going to be serious state-sponsored cybercrime right. That's why they've been tells the do this. I investigated it to protect themselves or they're investigating because they won't do all the countries like someone of that level of security to one not use an old style I._B._M.. Computer guys that did the research that about the fan they did sort of something similar data exfiltration with a fan right that's right they sped up and slow down the fan and then by the sound of the Pan Changing on computers get used they've used radio waves in the past. They use the P._C.. Speaker <hes> did they release these exploits or did they just say we can do it. No they've put together a research paper which are linked to in the show notes and they they could this technique this. This is quite punny. This is a bit of a Doug Control Hoot L._e._d.. reveling control del Alien lead very clever clever but the idea really thanks the thing is the audience and yeah. No one needs to be in the room. You don't need to get Tom Cruise into the room to watch this because what if a hacker what was able to hack the C._C._T._v.. There's a lot of what ifs here the Co Sarah in the air gapped room and record the L._e._d.'s when this ending the information says it's quite interesting now before you start out sticking Gum Oviedo Keeble Yeah Yeah it was just pouring the trickle now Graham electrical tape yes well. There are some things that you should remind one is how how did the malware get on the air gaps computer in the first place. ooh If it was air gapped was it plunged there by cleaner or rogue employees or do they leave U._S._B.. Stick in the car park and some plug fatty. No you know so so this is a huge barrier. Arthaud totally agree and I think this whenever I see research from this particular group and I think that's very clever but how did you get them our onto start beaming out the data via the keyboard or via the fan in the first place where you go to their social social engineering department and finds. Do you know what actually I bet. They do some seriously great stuff but if they WANNA have any press they have to do crazy stuff like this in order to get journalists to pay attention because it's easy to explain it sensationalist and then people lake you Graham Kgo Woo look with these guys can you're part of the problem and unfortunately if you look a little deep scratched the surface. This kind of threat was it sounds really scary is pretty hard to pull off. I would certainly site people. Don't be afraid of this good. I think this is interesting technically and it's called from that point of view but anyone who was able to plant them our in the first place could potentially stolen data from those computers at the same time yeah. You should be afraid of this as a baby little Tom Cruise flying down on your thinking you're sitting on the idea of scarier than the the one size Tom yes. That's a horrendous now. There are some other things. They said they said well what if if they're on any Hacker Bull C._C._d.. Cameras in the room and they said well why what if maybe there's a window that air gadget room has a maybe it doesn't open but maybe it offers a lovely view of an attractive water impeach and you can range camera or they said sounds like with that show CSI. It's like magnify sanctify enhance. Oh maybe the research has postulated someone could enter the room wearing a video camera or even the smartwatch ch- could record the flickering l._e._d.'s and the key thing may say is the quality of the Camera Cassisi T._b.. Cameras Typically Recorder thirty frames per second but your smartphone or your watch potentially could catch more frames per second which means you grab more data and more reliably yeah. I don't think I'm the right audience for this one right like fun but whatever and wait so as you probably guessed they're awesome countermeasures. If you are worried <hes> don't allow people into the room if accurate smartphones and smart what she's in cameras abandoned from your secure room put some sticky tape over the L._e._D.'s or even disconnects them entirely pedal post it note over. Maybe put curtains over the women. Don't let your air gap shit in a room with a window Maria from your mechanical keyboard. Tell us what you've got this week. Meister it comes by way of security researcher and I and Bug Bounty Hacker who found bugs and facebook code because I have to talk about facebook great. I'm contractually obliged every time I come on the show so this this researchers names luck Sean Muttiah and I hope I pronounce his name correctly and he has found bugs and facebook's code many times and he's made some money and from this and this week he did it again and he published the details of how he earned thirty thousand dollars from a bug bounty from facebook for finding a way to hack any instagram account you think they can add zero to that if he found a way to hack any instagram account Graham users are there millions and millions and millions millions worth a lot of money. A lot of people are whole businesses instagram based so yeah. I think he should've gotten a lot more than that. They tend to criminals. He could have sold that probably for more couldn't he. All rent it out to others might try to use it facebook or hurting right now that they just got find something like a few billion go about weekends Zach Sneezes and more money than that so yeah I mean I'm pretty sure his Napkin is made thirty thousand dollar bill so <hes> so electrons method to hack instagram was actually almost beautiful and how simply it works. I that's why I really love the story so he basically used instagram's password reset method to Hack instagram program so for context for folks. You may not know about how instagram works. It's owned by facebook firstly because again half talked by facebook and love suck I part own out of context that sounded quite dirty uh-huh so unlike facebook which was a web browser ARY thing originally instagram is meant to be mobile. I it's really a mobile smartphone APP so everything about it is supposed to be easy to use on the phone. Optimize her phone use so that goes for passer resets. That's so if you lose your password. Tell Instagram oopsy daisy I made a mistake Neiman new password and then instagram verifies that you're the person who lost their password and they send you a smartphone user a six digit recovery code straight to your phone number and easiest possible so you don't have to click any comes email password reset lanes or codes. You have to type into some form somewhere on some website you just gotTa six Digit Code and you just verify yourself cake sucks hi fi for that yeah super easy that actually predated predated Zuckerberg that may have been instagram was bought by okay so yeah anyway so if you wanted to attack and instagram one that has like millions and millions of followers like I don't know Kim Kardashian worth a whole lot of money in theory. All you really need are those six digits to get in so locks on figured okay so pathan is just a random six digit combination and how many of those can there possibly be if I guess the Mall I can eventually get the right one and for those of you crunching the numbers in your ahead 'cause it's a quick little math problem any guesses on how many possible combinations there are the move and it's <hes> thought zero through nine zero zero two nine nine hundred yeah saving you the trouble and calculating facto orioles. It's it's familiar yeah. It's a million so you've got a million possible six digit combinations so if you smaller than I thought it's but there are some mitigating factors. Here's the main problem that Lakhshman has to overcome here. Is You have to try up to a million different number combos before or hitting the right one and getting access so that's problem so as you pointed out a million's not as many as you think and also I'm sure some of our savvy listeners are thinking. There's gotta be some limitations in place here before instagram would allow people just try a million right right yeah so wouldn't facebook have some kind of failsafe in place to prevent someone from I dunno spamming their servers with all those guesses and yes indeed they did so in fact they already had something in place called rate limiting so the faster you try to guess number number combinations. If you're trying to spam their servers with like a million guesses they're gonNA put the Kibosh on you really quick so locked on found out after some experimenting that he could safely attempt about two hundred guesses from one I._p.. Address before facebook blocks his I P for making any more attempts so you've got about two hundred guesses and wouldn't facebook also put a timer in place to expire the codes. You can't keep trying to get in perpetuity and yes. It's a ten minute timer so both of which steps quite sensible because because you don't want some automated script starting zero working its way up to nine hundred nine so putting the block in place very sensible done well cypher indeed these are all good things if they hadn't had those failed states and places to be a very different story yeah we will be laughing and also instigated ENAC years ago so yes so the D._r.. Is You get two hundred guesses for that precious recovery code from one I._P.. Address and ten minutes and if you don't get the code into those two hundred guesses you're done yes. It's pretty easy script to right right right yeah. You know so you either hope you get in two hundred guesses or what if you had more than one I._p.. Address available to you know that kind that no one thought Maria who wants it. I don't know spent all of one hundred fifty bucks to spend some cloud accounts on A._W._S.. Oh I don't know five thousand I._V.. Addresses and had all those five thousand I._P.'s or bought really guessing they're two hundred guesses at the same time. Surely one of them will find the golden ticket within in their ten minute allotment Ding Ding Ding so it's not that he had five thousand computers in his back bedroom basement now. These are basically virtual machines which are running on some sort cloud service like Google Amazon Kara and they've got different I._P.. Addresses correct so he actually has a wonderful two minute video proof of concept of this which is I thought really fun. Watch he used only thousand A._P.'s that he bought from Amazon EC to and from those one thousand A._P.'s that he bought they sent out two hundred thousand requests us to facebook servers in an attempt to get right guess in the Recovery Code and that's only twenty percent of the total possible number combos but he's still got it and it's a two minute video that shows the how pretty elegantly it is in full. This is the wonderful little brute force attack and Super Fun under watch but that was enough for faith ago that you know what you now because one hundred fifty bucks is not a lot for a hacker to spend too. I don't know try and Hack Kim Kardashian instagram and the other thing I read about this case was that you also found if they were concurrent ain't attempts to guess the number instagram sort of got its nickerson twist regarding how many attempts they had been so if you had different computers attempting at the same time it kind of lost count and so there was a bigger number of at tax which were possible to get to that number more quickly within ten minutes the air you go this was beautiful. I thought really fun little expert that he found <hes> an facebook is already patched. It's a for anyone who's like buying. A._C._T.'s insists right. Now you already too late but yeah it's it's thirty thousand bucks for that. I think that was really neat discovery. I I wish he got my yes same Yup. I'm going to be interested to see how companies start hardening their defenses against these virtual at account attacks so if he used A._W._s.. Spin up all these different instances senses are companies prepared for something like that where you've got thousand different I._P.'s coming at you at the same time or is that just GonNa like normal web traffic for you. I don't know also what makes it kind of elegant and it's pretty old school brute force right yeah. That's why these guys should really. We've had some failsafe says kind of embarrassing isn't it sucks it is important but they also have to be careful in their defenses because if they were to look people from attempting to access the account because they noticed lots of different computers were trying to breaking then potentially. There's a denial of service which people could do as well to look the genuine user just to be a bloody nuisance. What if it could happen? We'll be talking about next time on security. Yeah I am loving the fight Leonard Okay so face because heart and instagram at the results of this kind of attack can't be done in future but the other piece of advice would probably give instagram uses is due enable to step verification onto your accounts because that's a much much more common way in which you're accountable get hacked his because you're pass what is being reused you get fished or something and never enter your code in front of a window because you never know you never know looking up at my ceiling. Right now in case Tom Cruise is dangling. The baby was a little little everybody. It's like I'm there. It's a crow. Tell us what let your story. Is this week way back. In August twenty eight thousand a year ago episode ninety-three I introduced you to John Steele and Paul half-million-member Twelve of course you don't remember them so I'm going to be reminding on the show so these are to Chicago lawyer Dudes with the morality and legal ethics akin to a pile of turds literally are you could have just said they were lawyers. I think that would have come. That was just taller. Jeez I met this sneaky. A key legal duo got caught making dirty money and just last week they have now faced the consequences for their actions and I thought as a game all remind you what these two dirtbags did give you a little insight into the legal case ace and Youtube and all you listeners out there. Why don't you take step in the dark at the punishment? The judge doled out okay and we'll see if you're right not right so John Steele and Paul Hans Meyer so back in two thousand ten these boys rented chicago-based law firm and by their subsequent equipped actions. I'm GonNa Guess they were just for the money lake. If a thousand dollars were a hotdog John and Paul would easily beat the world hotdog eating champion the Japanese Taku Kobayashi who I've watched video of recently recently and it's impressive sorry just woken up in a parallel universe. What did you talk what what Tatler okay okay the hot dog world eating champion? He is known for eating sixty hotdogs in a single sitting and history in case you're interested clearly who wants to the whole dog and Bunn into water before sucking it down as pie so he's lubricating it well before okay. Goddess Lube is usually the trick so that's what they call hot dogging wonder the gone off the rails. Yeah we just wanted to get that in. It's a bad crowbar how these guys made millions and millions so I created the honey the higher porn stars and film some porn and then they copyright the material these these lawyers making the these two lawyers these two doit bag lawyers yeah okay okay then they create the honey trap the populate Popular Content Cherry website the erection neuron so then they create the honey trab they create the honey trap populate popular content-sharing websites like Pirate Bay with said Porn vits. There's no porn on pirate. They trust me. I've looked that CECCHI box you gotta check for that and then they set the trap right they wait for people to come in download them and then they go after them for copyright infringement why so money so in other words they don their legal ropes and went after the guys that downloaded the sexy stuff all in the intent extort cash out of those insane. That's so many extra steps for extortion. Oh my my goal so they make this porn available. Let's say Graham you download the porn right from pyre Bayer wherever I go to the cords and I say look we have seen some hacking going on our systems from this I._p.. He address we would like to contact the ice peas and get their personal information so that we can go after them so the lawyers went to the court and said what presume they claimed that they had clients. They didn't say it was them so yes who are there plaintiffs of course force. Oh well don't worry they took care of that. They created eight shell companies so so they had very colorful names like sunless studios and hard drive productions and their jobs were to act as the porn plaintiffs in legal case against the porn download okay j just to be completely clear their lawyers who've also set up companies who the lawyers are claiming to represent so they've set up companies which opposes poem companies. He's the porn ends up on pyro lawyers of right then the lawyers send they go to the court saying or clients. The Pool Income Core is they've been hacked by peeking from this this I._p.. Address said so they do that to find out who owns the I._p.. Address and then they don't actually hit them with hacking claims they hit them with you've downloaded porn from pirate bay and it belongs to US exactly just yeah I know troll is like it's so much extra work. There's so many easier ways to do something like this much fun. If you're a lawyer. This is actually quite direction. You're on right. It's refund like that's a hobby. Don't get paid to do porn guys how it works. I didn't also working washing machine repair or anything like that because you're they pulled boys as pizza delivery combined combine these different ribs so much extra work. I just it's like I'm lazy. In this is offensive to me on not being lazy like on okay so they of course Never WanNa go to court because if they go to court they might have to reveal that they're actually behind some of some of the Sh- Napkins right so the idea is to scare folks into paying settlements and they don't have to pay the they'll have any public humiliation. I have written here my notes Pubic Humiliation Or Court Hassle from twenty ten to twenty thirteen. They netted six million dollars in copyright settlements the fuck out. That's why it was maybe be worth the work land how fun yeah but after you pay like the Union fees and the studio cost like that. There's no way shooting important that cheap. I don't know from what I've seen says. The Voice of experience in their come up came in two thousand sixteen where Paul Hands Meyer and John Steele were arrested by the F._B._i.. And the F._B._I.. I think twigged on because they were harassing the I._S._P.'s with all kinds of requests Westford formation and they were charged with eighteen counts of running a multi-million dollar extortions game so fast forward to today state both been sentenced. Are you guys <unk> the game okay because Paulin. John got different sentences they they are not the same why well let's start with Paul Hans Mayer. He was sentenced in June by Judge Joe Ericsson. They were both judged by the same judge hands Meyer initially refused to cooperate but in August accepted a plea clea deal but he reserved the right to withdraw the plea if he's he he was successful in dismissing the complaint when you do that apparently so I'm guilty. I'm also running. This concurrent plan to get this all thrown at a court so if I two okay all right exactly genius now the judge said it is almost incalculable. How much you're abuse of trust has harmed the administration of Justice and of course they're not happy? They're probably very pissy see because they use the courts and a lot of their schemings wasted time and kind of fooled and get a hobby. So what do you think he got in prison. So we'll sentence so bought six million <hes> he got five five years fourteen years in prison ooh whole two years of supervised release and he has to pay the victims one point five million restitution that is hefty now John Steele all since Tuesday last week by the same judge John Steele pled guilty twenty seventeen to money laundering same data he cooperated from the Gecko with authorities caveats to withdraw his plea rituals event shaky keep from the everglades feeling this asshole move yeah okay so one of them's got fourteen years and this guy who's helped he is going to get five years. Yes Oh got two years to five year sentences but there to run concurrently not consecutively okay so he's basically just in jail four or five years cool okay so it seems as though it pays to play ball with the courts cassettes nine years less than Paul Hans Meyer right like Graham. Your son has not even that old yet eh. You don't even remember life before him. Nine years is a long longtime right I mean I think it's a general rule of life. Though is that when the authorities got you you just say you pay your hands up and you say it's a fair copy szekely if we get caught at something. I hope you don't legal you're basically adopt mehan copyright infringement mission impossible music exactly that's what the stony because you're gonNA threw me your buddy under the bus for and you're going to cooperate and you're GonNa lie to save Save Your Own Bush one as well. We'll save my which one of us will cooperate. I that's the thing we have confessed crew. Yeah who's more loyal Graham. I wonder <hes> interesting <hes> <music>. Hey Graham this their people at their with companies a little bit bigger than ours and one of the issues that they face is visibility and oversight and when it comes to cyber security that is super important so listeners listen up. If you do not have a password manager in your organization please check out last past enterprise they offer centralized admin oversight and control shared access and automated user management. All all this stuff makes your life easier plus. You can even use last pass single sign onto protect all your cloud ups and give seamless accessed employees. Check it out at smashing security no at check it out at last pass dot com forward slash Schmo. She let me try that again. Folks check it out at last dot com forward slash smashing perfect. Do you want to make it more conversational. I forget sounded great. 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Show a movie a record podcast website or an APP whatever they wish it doesn't have to be security related necessarily better not be now my pick of the week this week is no security related <hes> but I do remember many years ago working for security firm wherein the sales department they had inspirational posters on the wall encouraging them to sell Komo P._k.. No no no no no not to urinate in a straight line. I'm talking about to sell more or to be a happy person and I was found these river ridiculous and comical but it would say things like the first step of the journey is I dunno who knows but anyway I found a website could inspire dot dot me and what this does is. It comes up with inspirational phrases hairs. Here's a couple which I just grabbed the website. Ignore the connection between your virility and gravity minimum. Let anyone tell you that you'll not fumble in yourself. Dan Straight Graham. I have a friend who actually got paid to write books that do this really and yes so her job was to collect them around the winner wherever she could find them and put them in this book. It was like an early job. She was twitchy. Have this one no one is telling you to obsess about your mother's medication see she could have written at one. She told me she made up loads of them because no one cared and no one read them well so she made up loads so they could be hurry should go to inspire bought dot me 'cause Allah has an artificial intelligence dedicated to generate an unlimited amounts of unique inspirational ridiculous quotes for the endless enrichment of pointless human existence. I sat sells itself beautiful now. There's even even a mindfulness smell play music in the background and display images from nature and cityscapes and things and we doubt to in a robotic voice the inspirational quotes one for nitty. She likes those little mindfulness yes so that is my pick the week I think that sounds Fan. It tickled me. It tickled me just where needed to out this afternoon. Please be doing that right now. He just wait ten minutes. We're almost almost done. Money's not in America's <music> squeaking Oh Maria what's your pick of the week well. May I ask. Could I do like a punt of the week like an anti pick of the week before you might pick in the week yes because I just somebody added me might my work email mail. They added me to a privacy email newsletter without asking me I if I'm wanted to opt into this and that is like the Douche easiest thing I can imagine for privacy newsletter so that is my anti piggy. We don't do that and it has to do with security. Yes it's a privacy and security newsletter. They added like an email that I only used for like very specific work purpose. There's no way I would have used this email myself for like a real thing and it didn't do double upsetting to confirm nothing just showed up in my inbox certain spamming me one day and I was like how dare you sir. It was very annoying and <hes> yes don't do that. That was shame them. I I will name in shame. Maybe on twitter about that okay all right so for my actual pick of zooey waste. My pick is what G._P.. Kohl's a serialize speculative fiction multi media narrative it is called what football will look like in the future and you don't have to have any interest in American football at all or any knowledge of it yes because I don't either really aside from what I've absorbed by osmosis being a Yank and that link that that is insurance. You do not want to read it on mobile it. You need to be on desktop per laptop so anyone who's reading show notes on mobile. Just gone there on my desktop is exploding. My screaming exploded in giveaway too much. It's very you don't have to have an interest in any kind of sport because I don't. It's very captivating read. I don't get away what it's about. It will take you. It's a long read and I will just say it was a contender for a Hugo Award for best graphic story. Last year and Hugo is like a very very big deal so for just as a appoint of how much is draws people in sent it to my husband last night yeah and he an hour later he was still reading it and then our after that he was still reading it and then when we went to bed he started asking me questions about like it got him really thinking about life in the universe and stuff so it's best to go into it knowing nothing about it and you really want to set some time aside to give it proper attention and I this came out actually two years ago. Yeah it's awesome. It's actually two years old <hes> but I I've never shared it with our listeners. So take a big obvious on your show notes. Eve some podcast APP stokes put show notes properly so if you can't find something you can click on their go smashing security dot com and all the links applicable from in there as yes upset you could you can search what football will look like in the future or it's also called seventeen seventeen thousand seven hundred seventy six. It's a year seventeen seven hundred seventy one seven seven seven six sorry imagine fifteen thousand years from now basically and that sort of his point so you can use yes. You both have been sucked into what I can tell. That's why I'm not talking. I'm totally I'm already in. Oh my favorite Chicago very well. We'll skip you'll pick the weeks the interested time you don't WanNa Miss My pick other type. Tell us about until okay because what would be the most boring thing in the world to be like anything in the world's mm-hmm anything that exists quantity surveyor yeah or Iraq right. I mean a rock rucks pretty move. You don't communicate you. Don't grow you get kicked around bit. Maybe well pick hiccup. The we change my mind about Rox. It's a little video I saw on Damn. That's interesting separate. It and I've put the Lincoln here so take a look right. It's posted by user metropolis. It's kind of just a little vignette. A little anime Maven yet may sound movie Yeah Rock Experience Okay Life of Iraq. Yeah just watch rid of it looks cute. It's more than cute. It's quite sweet and it's really interesting and it kind of has a bit of historical element to what I think it'd be great for kids to. It's very peaceful and takes a few minutes and it just changes how you might see rocks trees Rory's last week and now rox yet six come back to basics well that just about reps it up for this week. Thank you Maria for joining us as well. I'm sure lots of listeners would love to fully online. What's the best way for folks to do that? On the twitter's I'm at 'em Verma's and on mastodons INFOSEC DOT exchange. I'm at Maria either. 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A Hockey Sponsorship From A Dictator And Other Sports 'Hail Marys'
"This is only a game. I'm Karen given if I were to tell you that today's show is all about hail. Marys you know what I mean right. Just has to be sheriff. Let's do a quick reline. Penalty Marker is down play a stop. One thing is certain those brave folks who sat out here in the Orange Bowl and put up with this terrible weather saw wail of a football game and they should give both teams arousing ovation when this one is over November twenty third nineteen eighty-four Doug Flutie and the Boston College Eagles are down by four to the University of Miami Hurricanes a field goal won't cut it hope is all but lost play resumes with just six seconds on the clock flushed throws it down Boston College. I know believe save it. It's a sixty three yard bomb into the end zone for a touchdown around here folks sometimes call that pass the hail flutie but in sports a hail. Oh Mary can be any sort of last-ditch effort an idea so crazy. Nobody thinks it'll actually work and this week. We have three hail. Mary stories I up is an unlikely bit of Sports Lore. We unearthed a while back doc in an equally unlikely place the annals of Avant Garde Art Rock. You might remember the band devaux best known for their nineteen eighty hit whippet and for wearing flowerpot looking hats and yellow has matt suits on stage h they were weird but weirder still is the story of how an equally colorful athlete wound up being kind of mascot for the band reporter Sean Coal explains to understand what happened. You need to know that Divo- has a pretty considered considered philosophy and that is that the human race is in a state of de-evolution hence the name of the band their songs are about things like corporate control and blind conformity and they were visual artists I before they even wrote any songs. This was in the early seventies in Akron Ohio so one of the founders Jerry Casale says they were always trying to figure out what devolved art would look like you know because we were very very enamored and put off at the same time by pop culture like the lowest end of like add add graphics terrible T._V. Commercials so Ra walking through the K. Mart nope it was the predecessor to Kmart it was click. This is mark mother spa another founder of the band. I should probably mention here that this was more than four decades ago. Oh so a lot of the details are fuzzy for folks anyway there in the department store. We were looking for supplies. We were collaborating on a visual art piece together and walking through the sports section and there's these six practice golf balls was in a clear plastic pouch sealed shut at the top with a cardboard display head that kind that you hang on a metal hook and on that display head is an illustration of the smiling face of the renowned Golfer Chichi G._T.. Rodriguez I saw it and just loved it. It was a picture of him in front of a golf ball so it was heads kind of haloed by Big Golf Ball kind of imitating <hes> something that I had already been printing which was human heads in front of the moon and it made eight US laugh we chuckle we have to have that and and of course golf was almost symbolically like the most lean kind of you know bourgeois pursuit that you could have especially at that time unless your parents were rich. You didn't get golfing. I if we ever imagined ourself on a golf course it was probably as a caddy and how boring looked then on T._v.. And they announcing yeah but the one guy who stood out was Chichi because he didn't fit with with the rest of the golfers at all he wore these loud pants and <hes> bright shirts in he had this famous hat that only he wore which had a specific hat band Panama Draw Panama Kinda Yeah so they took the package home. Mark used the picture in a self published manifesto. He was writing about being a quote unquote spud boy in the rubber town of Akron but other than that nothing really happened with it until we were already putting out ourselves self-produced single be still somehow and I don't really remember the moment but we had the idea of putting Chichi on that cover on the cover of the forty-five be Steph was kind of jokey anthem celebrating the literal stiffness up tightness of politicians televangelists so using that image of Chichi on the cover was kind of comment on commercialism and America's his obsession with selling and in this case ceiling plastic golf balls and the Americana of the Golfer be stiff came out in nineteen seventy eight on steph records. They wrote the song well before they signed with the label and it was distributed in the U._k.. Eight were not as many people were familiar with Chichi and then about four months later devaux got its big break warner brothers signed the band for their first full length album and that says Jerry is when the real de Evolution began okay we've laid that whole thing out and working up to this moment and then comes the real devote twist that only a corporation could provide in other words what we're talking about. We become part of this new album had the title of question. Are we not men answer. We are devaux Jerry. Mark in the others thought since the picture of Chichi worked so well on the be stiff single. Let's just stick with it and put it on the cover of this record. The guys has worked with the Warner Brothers Art Department getting everything mocked up and ready to be approved for production and then about two days later we get this call and it's a big crisis. The call was from the vice president of business affairs for Warner Brothers David David Berman who was a guy that you would cast in a movie about the music business as the villain or as the hero will it just depends on your point of view. He was very smart very good at what he did in played hard ball and the first communication is I'm a Golfer and I'm a fan of golf and I know Chichi Rodriguez. I've met Chichi Rodriguez. You cannot use Chichi Rodriguez that is completely and totally false this. This is David Berman I told you not. Everybody's memory is crystal clear regarding the story. Not only have I never I have never seen Chichi Rodriguez other than on television. I'M NOT GONNA make fun of a friend of mine. I've never met him. I've never spoken to him. I'm not going to the company sued that part is accurate says David Berman about maybe being sued yes. He did play hardball but he says his objection was purely a legal. One purely in California is crystal clear. You can't use somebody's name or whiteness for commercial purposes pursues without their permission had nothing to do with my being a golfer other than because I was I knew it was clearly Chichi Rodriguez but it wasn't the fact that he was a likable could've been rory. Sabbatini would have done the same thing Wade who is rory Sabbatini. He's a golfer but nobody likes to worry. Sabatini also rory Sabbatini was born in nineteen seventy six and would have been two years old when the devaux album came out anyway. Jerry Kelly says this was a total shock to the band were dumbfounded and Crestfallen. We don't know what to do. And of course we're stubborn. We're not giving up so devaux decides to rate Chichi Rodriguez a letter to formally ask permission but the way these things work as soon as the record company starts spending money they WANNA see a return turn on their investment plus. Diva was scheduled to appear on Saturday night live less than two months after the record was released in August of seventy eight so if production was late no album to promote meanwhile the band had another idea involving another other piece of de Evolutionary art artist rendering of what the last four presidents would have looked like head you combine them so Kennedy Johnson Nixon and Ford all mashed together as a picture mark mothers by had lying around and it was his hit is bizarre faced at had John Kennedy's hairline and it had a Linden Johnson's ears and Richard Nixon's knows so the ban brings that image to the Warner Brothers Art Department on an idea that why couldn't we just. I mute face so that it isn't Chichi anymore. It was like building an old Mr Potato head toy. They grafted Johnson's ears. Nixon's knows on cheesehead reversed the mouth David Berman from business affairs doesn't even remember this at the image was altered so I sent him the original image and the potato head collage so he could compare looking at it today. I wonder why proved it because to me. It still looks like like G._T.. But obviously I must have Jerry Kasali and <hes> about three weeks later. A letter comes back from cheese representatives. No saying yes chichi Gee thinks it's fine to use that image he just wants fifty records at Christmas time to give out to his friends and family he wanted to save his friends of the lake. Look on a record right. He liked that mark mothers bomb aw and so it was at that point we couldn't go back it would they'd already printed the cover so now we had this mutilated potato face for an album cover and it didn't really look like the handsome Chichi anymore so I'm sure he was quite surprised is when he got a box of from animal. All our efforts were in fact in earnest but what it looked like in the end is that devaux had mainly tripped Chichi Rodriguez and put out something that made him look hideous. It was a mess although along with the Records Warner Brothers sent Chichi a check for twenty five hundred dollars so it wasn't a total loss for him. The band was never in touch with Jichi again except he did send Mark Mothers Bah a couple of publicity shots of himself saying if you WANNA use more pictures of me use these and now it's almost forty years later and a few questions still remain. I really WanNa know if Chichi ever listened to that record and what he thought of it yeah that would be the big question. Why don't you interviewed Chichi Rodriguez? Hello Hello T._J.. Rodriguez who's this. It's it's Sean Connery Chichi at a country club naturally in West Palm Beach Florida. He's eighty one now still handsome still plays golf now and then not professionally does a lot of philanthropic work through his foundation and an annual charity event. It's really an honor to talk to you. It's my honor to talk to you Johnny. It's Sean but that's okay. Chichi remembers his manager getting the letter from devaux his manager who was also from Akron Ohio there was a connection there and he says yes he did ask for a box of records and he did hand them out to his friends and family. Did you notice when you got the record that it didn't quite look like you that much. What looked like me I look at the pluses look like a little bit at least a hat looked like me? He didn't seem to know anything about all the Michigan that went down at Warner. Brothers didn't know what all that they were worried he would sue them. Shoo them. Well anybody the worry about somebody showing that means that they're so crooked that they they shoot people and they they think that people are sue them. I thought it was this young people trying to make it career out of it. I could help them and that's it because I I like to do something good every day of my life and I I wanna leave the the earth. The nih-funded so even young sort of of on guard punk musicians you WANNA help yeah. Did you listen to that record yeah. I listened to one time just once I put her way. You didn't like it. No I didn't like it. I like fraction patron not getting cold and they martin who was my favorite. You know 'cause music is not supposed to rally up music or something to bring your down so that's that big question answered third but there was a second big question that I'd had this entire time which was what did she think about his face or a mutated version thereof being on the cover of an apocalyptic Weirdo art rock bands first album like did that make any sense to him and it did in the end because of course Chichi knows he's Chichi knows how much he stands out how outlandish and likable he is none of that is lost on him in fact it's purposeful golf governor show business and so when you're on stage you gotta give the people show <hes> and that's that's what <hes> what they will they will came out and give people a good time so that is the similarity between you and Devaux yes so in a way it really makes sense. They used you on the cover of their record. I think they were geniuses and it takes a genius to recognize another. They could argue again. Jerry Kasali what we put through by David Berman actually achieved something here better than just using a found image so what you're saying is corporate interference plus the faces of four American presidents who prosecuted the Vietnam War and its aftermath and this wonderfully Dandyish Golf legend all of those together yeah. It's more devaux than end the original Jichi image. That's what I'm saying. It's Devaux and action like do you need example of what we're talking about here. It is and impossibly the most diabolical devaux twist of all Jerry Kasali. He's is a big golf and these days watch it on T._v.. All the time that's reporter Sean Coal we first aired that story back in August twenty seven. You're listening to only a game from N._p._R.. 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None of those sponsorships saved a team from bankruptcy but only a game scary wallet has the story of deal that did sort of Heinz vipin Bach was a successful real estate developer who loved Ice Hockey in Nineteen eighty-one. He bought E. C.. D. S. alone a team in Germany's elite Bundesliga. The team was not very good and it was millions of dollars in debt ice. Hockey wasn't wasn't exactly Germany's favorite sport over the next few years vipin box sank money into the team and by Nineteen eighty-six EC is alone was a playoff contender that endeared him to answer loan small but Loyal Group of hockey fans and to his players he was a character. That's Earl spry. One of many former is her loan players from Canada. Big heavyset guy always had his big long leather code on almost look like a guy out of the Gestapo Hogan's heroes or something and as long wavy hair walrus mustache and all that was Heintz vipin box dream was for his team to win the League Championship and he led his players know about it the and one time one of his players fired back crudely during a game early in the nineteen eighty-seven nineteen eighty-eight season is her loan was losing six nothing to a team at should have been beating defensemen. Dan Olson says hines. He's walked into the locker room. During the first intermission he was giving us the years about how we were playing and then he said if you guys continue play this way I'm GonNa shoot guys as he pulled his gun out. Most of the players new hines was joking but the team's top scorer denny held was not amused told him if he ever pulled that thing again he was gonNA shove his stick up as button he wouldn't be able to breath. I think he's a little scared of Danny. Held but hines was probably more afraid of his creditors. According to Israel Salon Forward Bruce Hardy always carried a gun with them wherever he went like many of Germany's elite pro hockey teams of the mid one thousand nine hundred eighty s EC loan was always looking for more sponsors even though it's uniforms for covered with logos logos again Dan Olson we had a beer company uses owner pills ner one of our major sponsors owned a crystal company written-off Crystal B._M._w.. Was One of our sponsors as well. I think that was under helmets but although sponsorships didn't generate great enough income to pay the bills the team also owed about three and a half million dollars in back taxes by the fall of Nineteen eighty-seven hines Vipin Bach was desperate to keep his team solvent journalist Gabrielle Lewis Manga says that led Vipin Bach the higher some expert help hydros personal taxman. They called a Merlin magician players were getting paid for the most part but Germany's central tax office was not officials knew that alone was playing in games with its ledgers. They just weren't exactly sure how so they went after the players. They're young Canadian guys in their twenties. They're just trying to continue a dream. They're having success. They're getting paid to do what they love. Love and then all of a sudden taxes authorities are out there doors going through their apartments. Bruce Hardy was good at sneaking out back window when the feds came calling but one day they caught up with him who took my football my baseball fog love by leather jacket TV and right at that time and eighty seven the loony came out and my brother had brought me one over the loony is a Canadian one dollar coin bearing the image of a loon. It's made mostly of nickel with a shiny bronze plaguing leading in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven it was worth about sixty seven U._S.. Sense and they thought it was a piece of gold. They took it to German. Tax Officials. Were also looking for documents that might show them how hyphen buck was hiding income from them. The team responded by warning players to misplace their pay stubs and bank statements the German government tighten the screws even more there's times when we come out of the rank and our cars or be taken away that have a big trailer out there Bodnar cars up vitamin taken away the finance people locked all the doors to the dressing room and told us we weren't allowed to practice when we weren't going to be allowed to play again until some of this money was paid back but the team needed to play to avoid bankruptcy and Vipin Bach couldn't couldn't stonewall the feds forever he looked far and wide for creative financing. Maybe a really big sponsorship deal. He reached out the Hans Meyer. The mayor of the nearby town of Hamer Again Gabrielle Louise Manga Pawns Hans was notorious for his business dealings behind the eastern bloc in China and so he was kind of guy who could get helped through some interesting business partners Burger Meister Meyer had in mind one very interesting partner Hans Meyer goes. I've got it. WE'RE GONNA call up Moammar Gaddafi Moammar Gaddafi known sponsor of international terrorism. The man who ordered the nineteen eighty six bombing of Berlin discotheque that killed three three and wounded more than two hundred oppressor of millions of Libyans dictator of the country that supplied most of Germany's oil and so hines he says great make the call. Let's go talk to Ghaddafi Hines Jetta Tripoli in late November of nineteen ninety seven and there's this whole spectacle of getting off the plane on the tarmac in Libya and there's dancers and Bedouin tents classic Ghaddafi Party hines is wining wining and dining with Gadhafi Ghaddafi says you know we don't have ice here but I've seen hockey and you know it seems like people like hockey in Germany and Ghaddafi likes anything that pleases the public is a man of the people not really Qaddafi. He was reviled in Libya Germany elsewhere but that didn't deter hines VIPIN Bach hines goes to Gaddafi's compound. That's been bombed the U._S.. Had bombed Tripoli in one thousand nine hundred eighty six in retaliation for the Berlin bombing coming to of the dead there had been U._S. soldiers and get off. He gives them a contract for almost a million dollars to save the team hines return to Germany and met with the players he told them hey guys guess what good news the tax thirties aren't gonna be reading your apartments anymore. He might even get your leather coats in your loonies. Your baseball goes back and were going to be playing and we're going to get a shot to win. The Championship hines presented could the team with their New Jersey's. They were is their loans familiar blue and white design minus the Ritz and Hof Crystal logo on the front that just had this great big green book on the front of it it said the screwed of book in German which met the Green Book and M Qaddafi on Gadhafi's Green Book had I been published twelve years earlier in nineteen seventy five weeks at all we had to do was where more Mars advertisement of his Green Book for five or six games than we would get the money so we kind of looked around the room at each other a little bit aghast that Moammar Gadhafi was going to be our major sponsor and we're kind of gone while this is crazy stuff going on here hardy Olsen and spry say they had no idea what was in Gaddafi's Green Book and they really didn't care at least not at first they were hockey players and hockey players just want to play hockey but why would Moammar Gaddafi want to advertise on the uniforms of German in hockey players Gadhafi had ambitions beyond just being the leader of Libya. Daniel calder is an expert in the literature of dictators. He had global ambitions very early on and he declared the arrival of the third universal theory that was going to replace place communism and capitalism. He says a capitalism doesn't work democracy as a fraud socialism likewise so this is the solution to the global problem of how to organize and Governor Society but how did Gaddafi think that would work yeah so he was kind of firestone the detail. I don't think you've thought about that heavily. It's a tricky to read because it's quite rambling and it doesn't maintain a very clear argument among the green books gems Gaddafi's. If he's creative analogy between nationalism and gaseous stars and his lengthy list of the biological differences between men and women and he shares his contempt for sports fans he says the thousands who coach stadiums to view applaud plot and laugh out of those foolish people who failed to carry the activity themselves Ghaddafi enforce the study of the Green Book at various centers around Libya. You can imagine sitting in a classroom in Libya University and this is presented to you will betrayed paid. The person who laughed at these kind of bizarre statements and here's where German pro ice hockey team comes in. We still trying to find ways to reach the world because he had the home audience so enough. You didn't have to worry about them but clearly wasn't enough. Uh on December Fourth Nineteen eighty-seven EC is her loan took the ice in their home arena against Rosenheim SB Bruce Hardy and his teammates wore their brand new green book jerseys fans had found out about the new sponsorship ship beforehand people are going wild dressed up as Ghaddafi in sort of Bedouin guard in it was just electric in there. I'm going wow this is changing things here. Real quick six thousand spectators had somehow somehow been crammed into an arena with capacity of only forty nine hundred is their loan won the game it looked like vipin Bach might finally get his first championship and now everybody was paying attention including international news media it. It seemed to the players that all the publicity was good publicity but hines was fighting with the German Ice Hockey Federation which wanted to Knicks the green book sponsorship and then for its next game A._B._C._d.. Is Her loan traveled to Frankfurt where thousands of U._S. troops were stationed when the team bus pulled up to the arena. Dan Olson looked out the window. We were met with the hostile mob of people and you know they'll have their signs and they thought that we were devils for playing for this guy and advertising advertising his book before the game the Commander of an anti-terrorism unit told Earl spry you know we've had bomb threats and we've gone through the whole rink and we found nothing. We've got dogs and everything pretty sure it safe but we can't guarantee anything anything in the locker room. The players told hines that they had serious doubts about wearing the green book logo and Hindsight Listen Guys. If you don't wear the jerseys the money's not gonNA come through and the season's going to be cancelled cancelled. We just took a vote and I think it was fairly unanimous. We just said No. We're not gonNA wear that was it. The team told hines about their decision he just kind of looked at us and he went okay then he walked out of the room and he was disappointed because as you know I mean he wanted to keep that team together. He wanted to keep his butto to jail to or eight so on December sixth nineteen eighty-seven A._B._C._d.. Is Her loan played in its old jerseys Ghaddafi withheld payment and the team declared bankruptcy a few days later the team was dissolved. Hines was crushed so we're hockey fans this alone but all spry wasn't to be honest with you. I was relieved that it ended for the fans but I wanted go someplace and just concentrate on hockey and get that behind me putting my past hines Vipin Balk managed to dodge German tax officials long enough to resurface as chairman of Sauerland E. C. D. A. Team in Germany's he's third tier ice hockey. League Sauerland won a title in one thousand nine hundred nine Vipin box championship dream had finally been realized he resigned two years later two years after that he began serving twenty seven month prison sentence for tax evasion. He died in early. Twenty fifteen. Libyan's were unburdened of Gaddafi's regime in twenty eleven. Daniel calder says that was more or less the end of the Green Book. There was nobody saying as hang onto the Greenberg it contains is truth. This is coleman with a low regimes. These books are there and entered his is people don't even want to reveal them. They just want to forget them. Only to Green Book Jerseys are known to have survived one is in the German Ice Hockey Hall of fame in Augsburg Park. The other lives in Bruce Hardee's closets. He doesn't take it out very often and that's only games Gary Wallich. That story first aired in July of last year Daniel Caldere's book is titled Be Infernal Library on dictators the books they wrote and other catastrophes of literacy. If you'd like to make sure you never miss a second can't only a game. There's no need to throw a hail Mary. All you need to do is go to apple podcasts stitcher or wherever you get your podcasts and subscribe easy peasy like a short curl route and we'll be right back with one more Hail Mary and don't forget to follow us on facebook and twitter at only a game N._p._R.. While you're sleeping a whole all bunch of news is happening around the world up. I is the N._p._R.. News podcast that get you caught up on the big news in a small amount of time spent about ten minutes with I on Weekday Mornings from N._p._R.. News I'm Karen Given d'artagnan Crockett's early life was bleak. His mother died when he was eight years old. His father was an addict by the time d'artagnan was a sophomore in high school. He was sleeping on friends couches and Oh Yeah d'artagnan d'artagnan is legally blind being a black kid and inner city with physical limitations people call the disability you already written off. No one expects much from you year you basically useless and I wasn't in the position in where I could fix that. d'artagnan couldn't changes circumstances so he did the only thing he could. He tried to hide them. d'artagnan severely nearsighted but he has just enough site to get by so he pretended he could see aw he joined his high school wrestling team and didn't even tell the coaches we had no idea of looking at something and I was having a hard time seeing it was like going on like Oh visually impaired because what I didn't want no d'artagnan didn't want the coaches to treat them any differently so they didn't then one day during senior year. Leroy Sutton joined the wrestling team at Lincoln West High School in Cleveland d'artagnan was one of the team captains and he wasn't the least bit worried read that his team's new recruit was missing something well to somethings we were talking in the cafeteria and I asked him what happened to his legs and he told me that yeah it was run over by train and I laughed. I one of those deep belly labs. Have you heard the Oh my God I was saying that and <hes> just to see someone not feeling sorry for him. Is kinda sparked a bond almost instantly good thing because when the bus showed up on a snowy day to take the team to I wrestling match of the season it wasn't wheelchair accessible of my bag do this soon d'artagnan was carrying Leroy on and off buses up and downstairs and into the bleachers Leroy weighed about one hundred seventy pounds but d'artagnan didn't think much of it. He certainly didn't think it would change his life just helping out a friend which I mean who wouldn't but there was something Leroy. Sutton didn't know about d'artagnan Crockett right and now he was blind. I found out in class I notice he was like really close to the book that we're reading so as I has problem saying so I turned to a couple of the other <hes> a students around me and as I came in let's <hes> let's do this like a project style and you know read out loud and that's probably how things would have stayed d'artagnan Leroy helping each other out both thinking it was no big doc deal if not for an E._S._p._n.. Features producer named Lisa Thin and her dad early one morning in February of two thousand nine Lisa's dad called you woke her up and told her to check out a story in the Cleveland Plain Dealer Taylor and there was a photograph of to high school wrestlers. One of them was riding on the back of the other because he had no legs. I was just completely in all of this photograph. There was just something about the expression on Leroy's face in particular Lisa rushed to work to convince her boss. His name was victor to send her to Cleveland right away to film Leroy and d'artagnan in what was likely to be there last high school wrestling match and all she had was this photograph photograph. He said something that are they good wrestlers and I said probably not knowing the high school that they went to are. They friends kind of looks like it ones on the others back. Are they articulate victor. I said let's just look at this picture like it's the one who can't walk being carried by the one who can't see and victor is a good man and he just looked at me and said have a nice trip to Cleveland. Lisa headed to the airport she had already packed bag during the drive she found a camera crew that can metering Cleveland and call the school. She arrived during warmups but before she could introduce herself to Leroy d'artagnan. She was stopped by their coach he he said hey you the E._s._p._N.. Lady and I said yes I am an extended. My hand introduced myself need playfully slap that away and he leaned in and let me in the eye and he said you have been sent here by God he said. Did you hear me said even sending by God today and he said this year he'd been praying really hard for d'artagnan for Lee Ri- because he felt once they a graduate the world had nothing for kids like them. d'artagnan was excited to talk to Lisa. He told me he felt it was about time that someone noticed him for something he was doing right but leroy just put in his ear buds and stared at the floor floor. I was so surprised and thirteen years the first time I've ever been with an amateur athlete or teenager who was not excited to see E._S._p._N.. What Lisa didn't know yet but would find out later is that when Leroy was run over by train on his way to school at the age of eleven the local paper followed him for a year and ran a six page spread under the headline Comeback Kid? The paper didn't mention some of the things things they're reporters must have seen that Leroy's mom wasn't taking him to his physical therapy appointments or even making sure he made it to school. She was spending his disability checks on drugs so it's like whatever I'm not trying to be in spotlight or not trying to get any <hes> pity or praise for being in the chair knows my life lease a new that if she wanted to tell the story she need Leroy's help so she asked to coach the one who had told her she was sent by God to go with her to visit Leroy at his grandmother's house. Leroy was sitting on the floor of his basement room playing video games and again he wouldn't. Even look at her so for about an hour just make conversation with his coach and we left. I went back by myself the next night again. I sat beside him on the floor this time and again he wouldn't speak to me not not anymore anymore than grunt anyway I asked a few questions and so I left I came back third night same thing and on the fourth night I said an Leery I wanNA thank you for letting visit you these last four days. I can tell well it's not easy for you so I'm not gonNA come back but I think somewhere deep inside you a lot to say and I think it's probably important. She's like you know you wanNA. Tell your story or even. If you just want to talk to me as a friend then I'll be here for you. I heart was really heavy as I went up the stairs because I feared I feared that if I left no-one may ever find him again. There's got to the front door. I heard him coming up the stairs and he called out to me and he just started gruffly said I got this new game. You WanNa WanNa see it and then she watching play a game. I felt really good not because I had won anything <hes> that because I know how difficult it is for trauma victims to trust and he certainly didn't fully trust me but but he was willing to take a chance so lisa set out to tell Leroy d'artagnan story for E._S._p._N.. She interviewed her subjects and research their backgrounds. She maintained proper journalistic distance from the two teenagers even though she did buy them dinner at subway after their shoots until one day when she discovered that she couldn't be just an observer anymore. It was at the conference powerlifting championships d'artagnan was and the process of of winning the whole thing when he went to the bleachers to rest. I guess actually people were how stuff stolen in check and a lot of things are stolen his wallet his ideas phone <hes> Dan stuff about everything he had been had my social security card and nowhere else to put it and he went into a full-on rage like where he looked capable of violence completely went ballistic because when you grow up with nothing and you have have nothing having something stolen from us a huge thing Lisa offered to help d'artagnan replaces things and d'artagnan accepted but she need cash so she returned to her cameraman his name was cameron and asked if she could borrow some money and he kinda ruled his is at me and let out of Big Sigh and he said go save the Turtles Turtles Okay Hang in with me here Lisa was about to do something journalists aren't supposed to do she was going to affect the outcome of her story and that's not a good idea for the story for the reporter and sometimes even for the people being interviewed but here's the thing have you ever found yourself watching video and something really awful is happening and no one is doing anything to stop it for Cameron. It was watching nature films about B._B._C.. Turtles trying to survive they're short walk doc from the sand the sea and Karen said and then it hits you see turtles would not be endangered if the cameraman would just pick them up and throw them in the ocean and he said these boys wouldn't be struggling if we help them so go go cross that sacred line of journalistic ethics. Here's two hundred dollars go save the turtles <music>. Lisa shot one hundred twenty hours of video about one hundred hours more than his normal. She spent two months editing. That's a job that usually takes just two weeks e._S._P._N.. Aired the story story in August of two thousand nine at Lincoln High School in Cleveland Senior Wrestlers d'artagnan Crockett and Leroy Sutton our team of their own. He separable join together at more than the hip Leroy called all d'artagnan as soon as the story had aired the conversation was just do do I know right yeah. It was just grunts and dudes very short because there was nothing else that we needed to say his everything was said and story. We both just understood that it was powerful. d'artagnan and Leroy didn't yet know how much power was in their story but Lisa was starting to find out who I had spent spent that whole edit periods of praying that just one person would see it and want to help them and that was a really small prayer because within minutes of the story airing I was started getting to three emails a minute net from people who saw it and wanted to help soon there was money for college so Lisa helped Leroy d'artagnan make it through their entrance exams in college applications. It took them shopping for school. Supplies Leroy moved to Phoenix to Study Video Game Development Collins College Design and d'artagnan attended school in Colorado while training with the Paralympic judo team in Colorado Springs. Thanks Lisa thought her job was done but it was just beginning. You know I had put them on television. As these resilient sort of action figure hero friends that that I saw and that they believed they still were but now I was dealing with essentially preteens in terms of the life skills that they had Leroy d'artagnan struggled in school. Lisa had them both tested and found that their skills were far below grade level. Lisa taught them how to write up a budget but they still ran out of money almost as soon as it was deposited in their bank accounts to hear Leroy d'artagnan. Tell it it wasn't that bad. Leroy says the schoolwork was easy. It was just the organizational skills he was lacking king and d'artagnan admits that training with the Paralympic team was stressful but it was nothing like the stress of wondering where he'd be sleeping the next night but everyone agrees that the stakes were high they needed to stay afloat because there was no plan plan b they had nowhere to go back to that. No family to go back to they had no saving account to fall back on education fall back on it broke my heart slowly things started to improve d'artagnan figured out how to get to practice on time and somehow just two years after arriving at the Olympic Training Center he qualified to compete in judo at the London Paralympics. I started to usually a reality I started eighteen years too late and so the idea of me make an apparent Olympic team to seem sort of impossible Lisa and Leroy flew to London to Cheer d'artagnan on and then he did it. <hes> he was amazing. He won the bronze and what was that moment like now. You're GonNa make me cry. It was unbelievable and I say this a lot but it was like watching watching this boy who had spent his life largely forgotten by this world as coach said nothing for him in this life and now he was standing on top of a Paralympic podium with a metal around his neck it it was it was just one of the most stirring powerful redemptive images I have ever witnessed the U._S._O._C. gives American medal winners the opportunity to give a medal to the person Bayfield feel most responsible for getting them to the podium. It's called the order of echoes and it's supposed to go to a coach of course gave it to Lisa to consider. He hung this medal around my neck and gave me a big Hagan thanked me for all I had done that. Moment was that was a moment of love for really great to see are appreciative ungrateful. She loves to receive the new award or gift of you want to call it from me back home. In Phoenix Leroy was struggling his girlfriend had given birth to his daughter but the stresses of school and Finances and being a dad were too much for him. He was diagnosed with P._T._S._D.. Leroy saw a therapist for a while but then he decided that he didn't WanNa talk to a stranger he wanted to talk to Lisa what he needed. Most in that moment was again just as I did in the basement three years prior someone to sit beside hide him and wait and listen things started to look up for Leroy he would eventually graduate from college and get a job as a video game tester. Yes he plays video games for a living but before all that he started a tradition addition in May of two thousand thirteen. He wrote Lisa a letter for Mother's Day when I asked him why he did it. It was almost like he didn't understand why I needed to ask <hes>. She feels like my mom like hey. She deserves this see I did it. That letter is printed in Lisa's book. I was hoping Leroy would read it out loud for me and he said he had a copy on his phone that ones that one's not on my phone. I've asked the one from this year though <hes> shoe actually kind of weird so I could email it to you can email it t- I thought Leroy was hesitating because he didn't WanNa share something so personal. This is the guy who made Lisa sit staring at him while he played video games for four consecutive nights before he even speak to her so I was surprised when it showed up in my inbox just a few minutes in its later it's upon and part of it goes like this. When I I met you? Those were dark days in that time I was stuck in my dark way. There was no light so you said the world ablaze but now these days I'm full of smile smile full of play hope you feel loved today so we take this moment to say thank you. I love you. I had never gone through these things with Lira d'artagnan expecting a thank. Thank you for her acknowledgement. It wasn't why I was in this. You know when people ask me what surprises me about our story I say is that they loved me back. Since that story first aired in September of two thousand Sixteen d'artagnan Crockett won a second Olympic bronze medal at the Rio gains in the fall of two thousand eighteen he retired from sport and is now in the final year of his sociology degree. Leroy Sutton is still working in the gaming industry. Lisa Fen has recently set up a gofundme me account to help Leroy and d'artagnan with healthcare expenses and to quote permanently break their generational cycles of poverty will have a link at only a game dot Org Lisa's book about her friendship with D'artagnan and Leroy is called carry on.
Episode 151: By the Book
"Killer had been waiting for the man to arrive. Abraham was German immigrants in his mid fifties who tended to sleep wherever he found work. He was also trained blacksmith and had been helping out in the shop owned by Peter Leah's junior in the small town of Hyde Park just north of reading Pennsylvania. On the night of June eighth of nineteen. Sixteen Abraham. Fiqh returned home to nine pm after seeing some friends and walk through the shadows outside the blacksmith shop on his way to the barn where he slept. And that's a figure stepped out of the darkness and brought the handle of an axe down hard upon his head. Abraham instantly collapsed. With as victim on the ground, the killer then turned his acts around and proceeded to bring the sharp blade down upon Abraham's neck over and over the axe cut into his flesh and bone until the only thing, keeping the head attached where a few strands of skin. At killer, then buried the body you have gotten away with it too. But he didn't. So in the woman who lived across the street, woke up the following morning and looked out the window Abraham fixed body was easy to spot. The police were called and moments after arriving to investigate, they found the killer sitting calmly inside the blacksmith shop and mumbling to himself about what he had done. It was the shop owner himself. Peter. Leah's. But the most terrifying aspect of his story isn't what he did or how he did it. It's why. According to newspaper accounts from that weak. Peter had recently suffered a nervous breakdown and sought out the advice of a local man he referred to only as a charcoal burner. Today, we would know that man as a practitioner of powing type of folk magic common among German immigrants Pennsylvania at the time. Apparently this healer told Peter that Abraham fick had been plotting to murder him and then gave him a book to help guide his decisions and keep him safe. In the end though it seems that Peter found a solution on his own. To kill before he himself could be killed. When he was arrested though that book was found in his pocket and in the coming weeks, it would feature heavily in the news. Eventually, Peter would avoid prison altogether instead being sent to a local asylum because of insanity they claimed caused by obsessively reading that book. And while it's hard to imagine one small objects having that much of an impact on the mental state of a person. The story of Peter Leah's highlights a belief that was all too common for centuries. Some books were more powerful than others. And when taken too far. The results? Could be deadly. I'm Aaron Minke. And this Is Lower. It. All started with writing. Today most of US probably take it for granted but thousands of years ago. The act of writing things down was revolutionary before cultures had to pass their knowledge on through song and story memorizing what they could and hoping that nothing would be forgotten. But writing changed all of that. It allowed one generation to pass its collective knowledge onto the next. All of a sudden humans went from guarding what little they knew to using the writings of the past to learn and then grow beyond. Yes. They are just little characters on the page. A writing is so much more than that. It was our road map out of the past. But almost as soon as knowledge began to be compiled in saved, some people began to use that method for documenting something less mainstream than philosophy theology or history they began to write about magic. In fact, according to pliny the elder who wrote during the middle of the first century the first person to have written down magic was a Persian astrologer named after his. And Austin as was special for a big reason, he accompanied the Persian King Xerxes the great on his mission to conquer the Greek world, and while Persia lost that war something that you can see fictional glimpses ob in the hit film three hundred, the trip allowed Austin as to spread his magical writings to a whole new region of the world. For many cultures, the very act of writing was considered magic among the Toba Botox people of Northern Indonesia, they're books of magic are known as Puszta. They are these amazing documents that can sometimes be up to fifty feet long before being folded accordion style and bound inside a cover, and they were only created by priests using Sacred Inc because it was the act of making them that made them powerful. End of the spectrum though many books have been considered magical not for their contents but for their appearance despite everyone being taught not to judge a book by its cover, countless books through history have been considered powerful because they are large or bound in leather or have gilded edges. All of these books though fall into a category that most people have heard of but very few understand. They are grim wars, books of knowledge and Instruction centered around the magical. Arts. Gremlin magical in themselves but the are said to contain charms, instructions and recipes for making things that provide supernatural help two desperate people. and. It's also important to point out that while we don't exactly know where the term grimwasde comes from most scholars believe it's related to a French word for books written in Latin and that's a big clue about the perception around these books in a world where most people couldn't understand a single bit of Latin writing flipping through them must have felt like exploring the notebook of a magician. Most groom wires contain the same sort of information to they were a how to guide for crafting charms that could protect the user or help them achieve some of their more basic cravings like sex money power, and finding objects they had lost but wanted back they weren't books of spells in the Harry, Potter Sense. But more of a household reference guide for wind life got difficult, which was just about every day for most people back then. It's also worth mentioning that during the centuries spanning the Middle Ages and the early modern period, most people couldn't even read these books and the few who could were often clergy thanks to the Catholic Churches Reliance on Lenton. So in the hands of the uneducated, a grim was more of a talisman it represented magic simply by existing. Historian Owen, Davies hands down. One of the world's leading experts on the history of grim wars illustrates this with the small but powerful anecdote for roughly a thousand years. An illuminated copy of the Christian Gospels was kept safely inside an Abbey Enduro a town in central Ireland. But in the seventeenth century, the Abbey was shut down in the manuscript known today as the book of d'oro fell into private hands and it was sometime after that when the book was taken out of storage and literally dunked in water. Why? Because local farmers were desperate secure their sick cows and they believe that the water would gain magical powers from contact with the Holy Book As time went on though grim wires became more and more associated with the occult world so much so that the clergy who owned them found themselves at risk during the various inquisitions of time, a common charge was possession of books on Black Magic and untold thousands of grim wars burned or destroyed in the hunt for heresy. But that association between grim wars and clergy had another side effect. Thanks to the growing public awareness of these little instructional books it became more and more important to justify their authority to put a stamp of approval on them. So that anyone even those who couldn't read them might understand just how significant they were. These books were powerful. Because of the legendary people. Who wrote. Them Like. So many things a lot of this can be traced back to Egypt while magical writings were common all throughout the ancient world. It was the hellenistic period when Egypt fell under the rule of the Greeks that those activities really took off because when the Egyptian priests began to speak and write in Greek that meant a whole new world of magic had just opened up to the rest of the Greek world. For most grim wars, it all came down to packaging and what better way to make one collection of magical writings stand out above all the others. Then by giving it a false origin story that sampled those ancient routes if a good percentage of people out there couldn't read what was inside them. Why not claim that these books were written by legendary figures from the past? I on that list. Was Moses the Jewish profit let people out of Egypt in a lot of mines, Moses was a powerful magician just looking at the details of his story makes it easy to see why splitting the waters of the Red Sea turning his staff into a snake and communicating with God through a burning? Bush all of it smacked of magic. So naturally, a number of grim wars took on his name. and. There were a lot of them to the key of Moses, the Secret Moon, book of Moses, the Arken jellicoe teaching of Moses you get the idea but the most common one was called the sixth and seventh books of Moses. Obviously, it wasn't written by him but that didn't matter to most people and this book was wildly popular. One group of people that revered it's were the German heck's doctors Pennsylvania remember the story of Peterlee, from the beginning of this episode that book that was given to him by the charcoal burner was the sixth and Seventh Book of Moses and a quick search of newspapers throughout the region in the late eighteen hundreds will net you hundreds of mentions of the book. People, using it people selling it. Honestly it was everywhere. What did the book contained that made it so popular while besides the name of most on the front, it was viewed by many as a guide for finding lost objects, misplaced money, hidden treasure, and precious metals. If you wanted to find it this grim war was the most trusted how to guide out there. Those who used it though claimed, it was filled with power historian. Davies tells the story of one Pennsylvania hex doctor who described reading it out loud for the first time. The man claimed that as he did. So his home filled with a flood voices shouting his name as a host of people beyond the veil were calling out to him when he closed it though. The voices stopped. But Moses wasn't the only person worthy of having his name on the front of a grim Warr for a lot of people over the centuries. If you were to repurpose one figure to represent wisdom and power, it would be the biblical King Solomon. The irony is that nowhere in the Bible is he portrayed as a magician but honestly, when has irony ever stopped gullible people from swallowing ally? What Solomon did have going for? Him was the rumor that he had written thousands of books. So when grim wars began to appear with his name on them, it seemed to many as if those lost a book had been found, what they contained though were entire fantasies designed to catch the eyes of people hungry for more magic. The Testament of Solomon, for example was a manuscript that told the story of how demons bothered the workmen building the temple in Jerusalem in its pages were diagrams and drawings that claim to show exactly how Solomon defeated those demons to a medieval reader. This book was a powerful tool because now they could control the forces of darkness as well. The most popular book associated with him was known as the Clev- Akilah Mona's or the key of Solomon dates to about the fifteenth century and has more instructional material regarding spirits, how to bind them, how to summon them or even to control them. It also has a healthy dose of help for those seeking to get or expand their love life naturally texts like that proved immensely popular. There were others over the centuries as well. A number of books were attributed to a man named Saint Ciprian of Antioch which detailed his magical education in. Egypt. Before converting to Christianity to this day some people in Armenia still wear scrolls of CIPRIAN as charms around their necks while others still recite prayers in his name. And then there is the picket tricks, which despite how it sounds is not a pokemon character von to of originated in. Spain in the Eleventh Century, the picket tricks was written by an Arabic scholar after the book was translated into Latin Century later, its popularity exploded and it's easy to see why the picket tricks was essentially a how to guide for making talismans. Physical charms that people would wear that were thought to have magical powers, but it also mixed in healthy dose of astrology. Mathematics and Alchemy, which illustrates something else. That's important to point out too many people there was no wall separating magic and science. Yes. Clergy were often viewed as possible magicians because of their familiarity with languages like Hebrew, Latin, and Greek languages that looked to most people like occult symbols but during the Middle Ages, the assumptions carried over to scientists as well. Because of that one man's name has become more connected than most the world of magical writing. And if the stories are true. There's a good reason why? His name was Michael Scott. No I'm not about to pitch you my office reunion script that was his real name. He was born in Scotland sometime around eleven seventy five and then travelled abroad for work and study. So it makes sense that the world would come to know him as Michael the Scott or just plain old Michael Scott. Scholars have made gases for years about where Scott was educated. Some say Oxford while others believe it might have been Durham. End. These are just theories. All we can say for sure is that he received an education that gave him the skills to read and write Latin opening up the world's a philosophy and science to him. And that's about all we know about his roots the first time he actually shows up in the public record is in. Spain in the year twelve seventeen when he completed his translation of an Arabic book on astronomy known in English as on the sphere by Alcatraz, it's also a during his time in Spain that he said to have made a prediction about his own death. Supposedly a tiny stone would fall from the sky and strike him on the head prompting him to have a metal cap made something. He was said to wear every day after that. It end pops up in Italy in twelve twenty going on record of all things to settle a mathematical dispute between two neighbors after that more movements a few years later, we find him connected to pope on Arias the third, which eventually led to a few church jobs back in England. But in twelve twenty seven, he was back in Italy and this time his powerful friend would be of the more worldly kind, the Holy Roman Emperor Frederick the second. Now. Frederick was an interesting guy despite the title of Holy Roman emperor he was publicly not a Christian. It was a position that earned him a reputation as an evil man and that attracted all sorts of scandal and rumors and fueling those flames was one clear fact Frederick was a man of science. For example, Frederick actually brought Egyptian scholars Italy to help him develop away to incubate ostrich eggs using the heat of the sun, and he not only employed Michael Scott as his court astrologer. Leonardo BANACCI NACI, the famed mathematician who's responsible for just about every challenging math course you ever took in school. Rex Court was a court of Science, and in time when science and magic occupied the same mental space for most people that got the general public whispering and it didn't help that Scott had trained a place that was practically synonymous with magic the Spanish city of Toledo. Toledo in the twelfth century for lack of a better analogy was hogwarts historian. Owen Davies says it best clergymen seeking instruction found the Liberal Arts Paris the Law in Bologna Medicine in Salerno and Demons in Toledo. The city and sorcery were so intertwined in people's minds that for a very long time a common term for magic itself was Sciascia Toilet Tana, the knowledge of Toledo. and. In a lot of ways, this was Michael Scott's Alma Mater. He might not have begun his formal education there, but it was certainly where he built his reputation. Thanks to the overlap of Arabic and European cultures. He was exposed to all sorts of fields of study that caused rumors and it's easy to see why if he had learned about things like astrology in natural philosophy then surely he had also studied Nick Roman city and Dima -nology write. The stories we have about Scott from his time in the court of Emperor. Frederick second are dripping with magic one. Taylor explains that he had a passion for throwing elaborate dinner parties. It said that he would frequently invite friends over for a meal. But when they arrived, they would discover that no one was busy in the kitchen leaving them to wonder where their meal would come from. That's when Scott would lead them into the dining room where exotic dishes would all be waiting for them on the table? One by one, he would point to a dish and explain where it came from this one was from Paris. In this one here was from London hinting that all of them had somehow magically transported from those tables to his own. In another story, Scott hosted a large gathering on a hot humid day and the emperor himself was they're looking for Relief Frederick was said to have asked Scott if he could do something to cool everyone off in response, the magician said to have summoned fierce rainstorm which blew in suddenly dropping the temperature and then vanished almost as quickly as it had arrived. Many of the legends that we have about Scott's are centered around a grim war that he carried with him entitled the Book of Might With the incantations it contained, he was able to summon familiar to help him perform tasks. Once upon being told to go to France and ask them to put an end to French piracy, he was said to have used the book to call up demonic black horse which carried him off into the sky. In the end Scott is a frustrating character, he clearly existed but so much of his life is still a mystery to us today. What we do know though is that he lived on that blurry line between science and magic and left a trail of amazing stories in his wake stories that hinted at the dark reputation and legendary power of grim wars. We do know one more thing about him though. When he died. One of the benefits of working in the court of the Holy Roman emperor meant that there were a lot of other educated people around. In twelve thirty, six, the court poet Henry of of ranch recorded in one of his poems that Scott had recently passed away and he makes sure we know who he's talking about by describing Scott someone who revealed hidden secrets through the use of numbers and stars. But. The most surprising thing about his death isn't that was recorded. But how it happened in the first place, it said the Scott was a pious man but to church one day just as bell was being rung. Maybe he felt guilty for his late arrival or perhaps it was something he did every time he attended, but he removed his cap as he entered the church. His metal cap. And that's the moment when the rope from the bell ringer brushed against a loose bit of masonry knocking free from the tower above. It might have been small no bigger than a man's fist but a fall from such a great height gave that tiny stone a chance to attain a lethal velocity. The. Stone landed directly on his bare head. Killing him instantly. Exactly, as he had predicted. Years before. Knowledge is power. I know it's a phrase. We've all heard once or twice in our lives, but it's often more true than we realize the more we know the more possibilities open up to us and everyone wants to grow beyond the life they're living in some way shape or form. At the heart of the world of grim wars is the notion of unattainable knowledge buried within secrecy. I know it sounds like a convenient arguments but for a really long time, the very fact that people could not understand these books was what convinced them that they were powerful and valuable surely something. So mysterious and esoteric must be hiding life-changing secrets. All you need to do is read the DAVINCI. Code to get a crash course in all of that the written word, some say can be a hiding place for secret knowledge and anyone clever enough to tease it out might be able to rise above the rest. It's an attitude that hints recognition of our human limitations. Then are deep desire to gather tools that might ward off the most dangerous types of threats against us. But with secret knowledge also comes fear. People have wondered for centuries exactly. What might go wrong if someone played with the pen door's boxes of magical writing book burnings, Inquisitions, and social pressure have all been used to suppress interest in these books. After all. You can't believe something like that dangerous without also believing it's true. But in doing so they've missed something important grim wires were the sort of that attracted lovers of learning across all areas of science and philosophy and the sort of mental gymnastics and high level translation work that was required to read them ended up equipping brilliant people with the tools to push society forward. And Michael Scott was one of them. The works of Aristotle are a great. His surviving works span a wide assortment of topics from politics philosophy to physics and ethical studies, and if it wasn't for Michael Scott's translation of Aristotle's writings, medieval Europe wouldn't have had one of its cornerstones of knowledge. The irony is after many long centuries. It was Scott's own. That were in danger of vanishing forever. As recently as the nineteen thirties had become almost impossible to read all of his work in one place. In fact, it was a common complaint among scholars of Medieval history at someone should take time to gather the few manuscripts that still existed and compile them into a new critical edition. So a German scholar took up that challenge, his name was Hans Meyer and he gathered most of the remaining Scott manuscript into his workspace to begin building that master edition. The writings of one of the most famous and infamous medieval scientists and magicians would finally have their chance to shine. The trouble was Meyer had left Germany for the safety of London to do his work safety because Germany had fallen under the spell of a Nazi dictator and war had broken out across Europe as far as Meyer was concerned. London was far enough away to stay out of danger. But he couldn't have been more wrong. In nineteen forty Nazi Germany began the blitz a bombing campaign against the United Kingdom. German bombers dropped their deadly cargo on cities and targets all across the country in hopes of destroying key military assets and the British morale but there was one other casualty in all of that. Michael. Scott. You see in one, thousand, nine, forty, one bomb landed on the house that haunts Meyer was living and working in killing the scholar and destroying everything inside. Every single. Scott manuscript that he had with him at the time was lost including his own translations of those valuable documents. When his house was searched for survivors, all that was found were a couple of torn pages scattered on the floor. Of course, the search and rescue team didn't know what they were, and so they simply walked through the papers leaving a shoeprint on them as if they were nothing more than trash. In the end. That's the double-edged Sword of the written word. Yes. It has allowed those who came before us record all they know and believe which could be handed down to the next generations. But it also puts that knowledge in a precarious situation. Whether it's recorded on stone paper or the latest in digital technology. Nothing is ever permanent. In once it's lost. It's gone forever. Michael Scott Certainly, provides a unique glimpse into the world of wars, but he's far from the only one throughout the ages countless colorful figures harnessed the power of those mysterious tomes and in the process left their own indelible mark on the pages of history. And if you stick around after this brief sponsor break, I'll tell you one more tale of magic and mayhem. This episode of Laura was made possible by the great courses plus one of the many things I. 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And finally, this episode was made possible by squarespace earlier this year I launched a new project new production company called Grim and mild part of that process involves setting up the physical offices and the recording studio but it also meant building a website for all of our shows something that could have a massive undertaking squarespace made that project a breeze I was able to build my ideal website with dead simple editing controls to manage all of my needs. You can check out the final product over at grim and mild dot com to see but I mean between this and the Lore website I started five years ago I honestly can't imagine managing my websites any other way squarespace has. 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It might be something as frightening as a sick child or as benign as a lost wallet but no matter what the people needed believe that Hannah heatherly could help them with. Hannah was a known practitioner of powering at old Pennsylvania Dutch mixture of folk magic religion and homebrew medicine. So it made sense for her to treat people with physical ailments. She was known to treat patients with epilepsy nervousness depression, and even Saint Anthony's dance type of involuntary movement Disorder One newspaper article from March of Nineteen, seventy nine described the essence of powing like this. It consists of blowing the breath over a wound or sore and repeating. Appeal or prayer. And these prayers were found inside one of the more recent additions to the list of grim wars. A book called the long lost friend for practitioners Paolini. It was a required tool and they rarely went anywhere without it. It was a small book easily stuffed into a pocket or purse, and in the world of those who believed in that particular bent of folk magic, it was practically on par with the Bible. Hannah lived about four miles outside the village, a small log cabin just off the muddy road behind the tiny house was a small hill covered in boulders and trees, and often the side yard was a Kennel where she was said to keep a pair of large black dogs. Roaming all over the property. Of course, we're a few black cats now I guess my point is this. If ever there was someone perfectly set up to look like a witch Anna heatherly was it. Sometime. In the winter of eighteen, seventy, eight to eighteen, seventy, nine Hannah claimed to have a number of odd dreams in one of them. She was pulled from her bed by some powerful invisible force and carried to a nearby mill once they're a voice cried out dig here and you will find money that was once stolen and hidden away in secrets. The following night, the dream happened again, Hannah tested the signs by performing rituals that might help her and each time she claimed that the evidence pointed toward gold. So she told a handful of her regular customers about the dreams and a few of them offered to help. According to her most of them were sons of wealthy local tobacco farmers most likely looking for a way to become as rich as their. Without the years of hard work, of course. So Hannah drew up a list of twenty four locations where she believed gold had been buried and then went to retrieve a special charm book that she kept hidden away. It was an old book written in German that she had inherited from her grandfather and to keep it safe. She tended to Wrap It in oiled leather and bury it beneath her ash heap. It was described by one witness is filled with text in red and black inks red for the blood of good spirits and black for those bad and it was filled with all sorts of charms and prescriptions. It was called. The sixth and Seventh Book of Moses. Their expeditions worked something like this. Hannah would lead a team of diggers to a particular location and the ritual would begin. No one was allowed utter a word and digging carry on for hours in utter silence less the spell be broken they would dig a hole in the earth six feet in diameter and six feet deep, and then Hannah would climb down inside it. then. She would place a special piece of parchment on the dirt at the bottom all covered in weird occult symbols and diagrams, and then pull a device out of her back called an earth glass. It was supposed to allow her to see the treasurer beneath the ground and as long as they remained silent and did everything right that treasurer would slowly rise up toward them. Once. The diggers claim that they all saw. Begin to happen a large iron chest slowly emerged from the ground like a whale surfacing for air. But the site of it was almost two amazing to believe and one of the workers muttered an exclamation out loud instantly, the chest began to sink back down and despite a number of them scrambling to catch it. It slipped away. For weeks upon weeks Anna led her team of followers all around the region almost always at night digging for buried treasure. Alice newspaper articles were published of their adventures and a handful of reporters even showed up on her doorstep to ask her all about it. But as far as the historical record tells us. They never found a single thing. Hannah's treasure hunt does teach US something powerful about hidden secrets and forbidden knowledge though. We might not always be able to find what we're looking for. But we'll never know. Unless we dig. This episode of Lor was written and produced by me, Aaron McKie With Research Sam Alberti and music by Chad. Lawson. From time to time, my researchers will find a book that provides a deep well for a particular topic, and while episode, like this only tries to scratch the surface curious listeners might want to learn more to that end. I WANNA point you in the direction of a book called grim wires by Owen Davies. It's thick with scholarly details, but it's well written and full of Texture I. Put a link to it in the episode description and on the episode page of the lower website. So please if you want to know more, check it out. Laura is also much more than just a podcast. There's a book series available in bookstores and online and two seasons of the television show on Amazon prime video check them both out if you want more lor in your life. I also two other podcasts, Aaron McKie's cabinet of curiosities and on obscured, and I think you'd enjoy both. 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"The following program contains graphic material, including offensive language viewer discretion is advised. Jeez got the news. She talks with news makers. She encourages us to live, and she cries with US speaking truth to power and Questioning Authority daily. It's the Nicole Sandler. Show Orion. Hawaiian, hello, and welcome to a Tuesday. I'm Nicole Sandler. Coming to you live at Nicole Sandler. Dot Com on the progressive voices network on. Youtube and facebook live and And heard on net roots, radio and Y, nation and air progressive, and however and the podcast, of course. However you're listening I. Thank you for doing so and well welcome to the program. It's Tuesday so gotta laugh is here and ready to join in and. There's a lot of news and stuff to talk about and I. I gotTa Tell You though. I. You know I like to start the show with something funny and I have a funny for you today, but I'm a little worried. That might get us. Copyright violated, but it might be worth it because you know how. I'm always going on about the never trumpers and well the You know the. The Lincoln. Project for example, the Lincoln Project I've Sung their praises because they've done some amazing. Commercials anti-trump ads that I appreciate and I. You know I I I tell them I promote their videos because they're so good, but I always warn you watch out because these people though they may be the enemy of my enemy, they are not my friends. They are Republicans from Rick Wilson to Steve. Schmidt and beyond the people who run the Lincoln. Project Make no mistake about it. They are Republicans. They are not Democrats though they would love nothing more than to take over the Democratic Party and turn it into. Their vision of what they hoped. The Republican Party was going to be. They do not have the same goals you and I have. So with that as the setup, I'm going to actually played the funny a little differently today and hope that it might. Preclude us from from getting. Copyright violated. I don't know we. We still might, but it's worth the chance. It's worth taking the chance because I really WANNA. Play this for you, so it's a bit that aired on the late show with Stephen Colbert believe. It was on last night. My husband actually brought it to my attention, and after I watched it and pick my job off the floor, then one of our regulars Joe. Sent it to me as well and I, said you know what it's worth. It's worth taking the chance on so hopefully. Youtube doesn't Buddha's the. Thing today if it does while then you know, come on over for the audio. Progressive Voices, DOT COM or at Nicole Sandler dot com slash, listen dash live, or you can get my audio stream by simply going to Nicole. Sandler Stream Dot com I'm just letting you know you. Youtube Birth to Youtube irs of how you can listen. A. and. If if by some chance we get kicked off of Youtube now seuss Arnson is asking. How does Randy Rhoads have the ability to shut the Lincoln project clips as well as other videos I'm the same way I. Do I show the those ads and I? Don't get copyright violated for that, but I will sometimes get violated for showing a clip from a television show. As is the bit I'm about to show you from Colbert. I could play the Lincoln Project ADS. That's not what this is about. This is a bit from Colbert show. Doing a cartoony interview with Rick Wilson about the Lincoln Project, and it is it. Is that good but I had to give you the little disclaimer at first, so if we do because it runs about six minute, so if we do get booed off of the Youtube You'll know why number one you'll know how to listen to the rest of the show on audio which would be at. To. Make it easier. Nicole Sandler Stream Dot Com all right. You're ready, so let me on for you, youtubers. I'm just GonNa, I'M GONNA. Bring up the video on this screen in my regular screen because I've heard that sometimes. If you manipulate the video in this way, they don't violate. You will see either way enjoy. This is from the late show with, Stephen. Colbert Okay CBS all access originals. Lincoln project it's burst onto the political scene with the series of viral anti-trump videos that have even caught the president's attention. Trump tweeted this about you and your colleagues quote I didn't use any of them because they don't know how to win and their so called Lincoln project as a disgrace to honest Abe Lau trump is not usually so sensitive. How did you get under trump's thick? Skin amazing that this man of such a sterling moral character and constitution was irritated by a few political consultants who made some viral videos about him? He's normally very very much. The the robust strapping man who who stoically takes any adversity, or he's a winding bitch addicted to twitter. A bit. The biggest insult comparing someone to a woman I hate. Now, let's talk about who is involved with the Lincoln project. At least seven members of your leadership team are Bush Cheney campaign alumni, and I gotta say. Mr Bush she always did what was right for the country that country being Saudi Arabia George W Bush had such skill trump. He knew how to keep human suffering feel more degrees of separation away from us. There's no president in the history of this country has done more to abuse the office of the presidency to treat Americans in ways that are racially and morally and economically divisive, and he asked me unquestionably the worst president our. Our history with you, rick trump's failures are much much worse than George W Bush. I mean. Trump is responsible for bad deficit increases bad corruption, bad racism and bad countless deaths George W Bush on the other hand is responsible for good deficit raises good corruption, good racism and good countless deaths I miss the Republican Party before it embraced trump back when it only laid the groundwork for you've received glowing reviews from the MSNBC, crowd. This big Mar of these never trumpers at a bull off going electric project. People give them money to local organizations I. get money to project because. The Lincoln project is like watching a Jay Z NAS rap battle I. Mean they don't let up on this president. What the Democrats to pay attention to the Lakers project to doing superb job the Lincoln project those are good commercials. Rick! How rewarding is it to win over the people? You've demonized your entire career. person. I'm interested in demonizing right now. Is Donald Trump and the personal lincoln projects focused on his Donald Trump and the fact is that Americans from all walks of life have recognized that that every. We need all hands on deck in this fight. And you know what I allies come from all different stripes and alder for walks of life, and I'm happy to accept the support and encouragement from folks across the spectrum. tweets disparaging Muslims and members of the lgbtq the, but we have to take issue with your remarks on attendees of the Liberal Net roots, con friends you tweeted. Dear nut roots. Are Barack Obama's bitch. You are pathetic. Satisfied with crumbs and head Pat Rick. When was the exact moment you realize those pathetic little horse could be tapped for money. The matter is everyone on twitter. Has Lives lives in a culture where there's a lot of fronting a lot of talk? Okay, and not a requirement that you have on twitter from the past is is something you're gonna live with forever. These things are these things are a culture that runs both ways, Rick. The Lincoln Project has been wildly successful and is growing faster than ever. The Washington Post reports that quote advisors to the Lincoln Project which they say has about thirty employees and raised sixteen point eight million dollars. This quarter will soon expand to include ground operations. No give the half of you worked for Bush for these new ground operations. How many people should expect to die? Agreement as liberators. Worked last time, right, let's talk about how the Lincoln projects spends. All those viewers money here is how much three other top liberal super PACs spend on operating expenditures total disbursements in other words, the percentage spent on overhead costs including salaries over their lifetime. Senate majority packs Ben's sixteen point. Eight percent on overhead country is fourteen point seven five percent in American Bridge twenty-first-century is forty six point seven percent. What do you think the percentages for the Lincoln Project? Well, you're going to see our new report coming out in July. I The first major. Period our campaign that wasn't involved in startup cost acquisition, awesome data and data costs, and you're going to see that we are. We are putting about eighty five cents of every dollar into voter contact percent with fifteen percent, going to overhead, would-be a lot better because right now it's the opposite eleven. percent goes to independent expenditures. An eighty nine percent goes to overhead eighty nine point three percent on overhead sounds like a lot, but I can't get into the right head space to make a ten second ad without wolfing down endangered molluscs in Titanium Catamaran with Bush administration buddies. Before. You're working at the start up an acquisition costs from the first quarter. The second quarter is going to show that we have a massive amount of money escrow to the bank for media, and for good or contact this fall, and our numbers are competitive with any other pack, and in fact much better than most assure nope, so that's a lot of cash all right well given all this. We had our media arm. Which is me and I'm expensive. Make a new Lincoln project, add. Add take with trump is the most incompetent corrupt president in history, and we need to do everything we can to stop him. After compensating, our strategists complicit in the deaths of countless innocent lives campaign for overhead, such as lodging at the w hotel, and the standard, both of which have fantastic roof decks. Stop this corrupt Griffin ruining America. Donate to be savvy grafters who ruined it before and hope you don't look into them all right, Rick. We know you have to go hoover up. So that's all. Thank you to our analysts and guests Rick Wilson of the Leeann. Thank you so much trick, but honestly please do take down trump. He is bad. Time on inside the hill now. Rick I actually I don't know if you've seen this on the Internet, but there's a lot of cake videos going around and I actually did a reverse where you cut into the cake, and there's a shoe inside of it I've never seen anything like that Rick Robot. Yeah, there's this trend where when you look into the details of something, it's different. I'm. There's. Trend where when you look into the details of something, it's different. Wow, wow, wow, well and sure enough. At, we got through. It heads up. We've detected copyrighted audio and video in your stream. Your stream may be temporarily dot dot dot, but. Hopefully they won't dot dot. Dot Us because that's over and we're back to us. Oh God. You know big round of applause for a Stephen Cole bear and his writers Shiites there you go. We've been temporarily blocked dammit. Dammit dammit, dammit, hopefully it comes back up because we're no longer running copyrighted audio and video shoot. We were there that whole thing in, but it looks like they've blocked us so. Stream unavailable. Dammit, oh, man. You know well. We're still on audio, so come on over to. Nicole Sandler Stream DOT COM. If you can still hear me, yeah so rick. Rick Wallace just appeared a half hour going Nicole Walser show on MSNBC I think that they told him that they were gonNA. Do you know that they were GONNA post Do! You do a bit and poke fun at the Lincoln, project and Rick. Wilson is known to have a good sense of humor, but. I'm sure he didn't realize how deep it was going to go. Because that was, that was pretty brutal. All right Oh my stream is no longer being blocked due to copyright issues. Okay, it looks like it's coming up again. Hold on standby, everyone. It looks like they're giving me the stream back. So stick around, it looks like it's coming back in the meantime. I'll tell you what we'll do is. We'll take a little break while we're dealing with this and come back on the other side with a little bit of news and got laugh is coming up stick around its Nicole Sam Oh. We're back. Yeah, thank you YouTube. We're back all right. It's Ecole Sandler's. We gotta take a break anyway so Hold on, we are going to. Go to a break while progressive voices goes to commercial well. LISTEN TO JIM hightower. We'll be right back. It's Nicole Sandler show at Nicole Sandler Dot Com and the progressive voices network. Refused to wear of Corona virus mass because he realizes that Anna a mask, we'd all recognize him as the robber who has been moving furtively behind the scenes of pandemic to rid the rules against workaday folks to further enrich corporate elites with media, attention riveted on Covid nineteen body counts, trump and company have felt free to monkey wrench. Labor laws dynamite environmental regulations manipulate the tax code and generally burglarize our people's commitment to the common good their lack robin. Robin Hood and his Merry Band on the in reverse, stealing from the many to give more to the rich few they've even quietly fields, the bulk of the government's multi trillion dollar pandemic recovery program, thus dramatically increasing wealth inequality, or you might have received a one time twelve hundred dollar relief. Check from Washington. Major corporations have actually been given the keys to the Federal Reserve's money printing machine, funneling a long-term giveaway of hundreds of billions of dollars to them. Also corporate interests are pocketing untold amounts from several little reported grant programs and tax breaks discreetly created just for them, for example, mysteriously tucked into trump's first rescue package was a hundred and thirty five billion dollar tax boondoggle specifically designed for such huckster as giant real estate developers like whom will trump himself and son-in-law jared Kushner appeared to qualify just lucky. I guess adding to the peculiarity. This handout had nothing to do with helping America. Recover economically from the pandemic. Rather it provides retroactive tax breaks on deals. Developers cut long before this year's Cova crash. This is Jim hightower. Saying is trump companies version. The old political adage never let a big crisis. Go to waste. To get more of Jim HIGHTOWER's populous. Take on Wall Street in Washington or up to visit www dot hightower lowdown dot org. 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In a what what we've got A. WE'VE got some news to get. Let me get to a little bit of news before we bring Latvian just because you know I should. We'll get to more when she's here. But for now let's let's do this. Oh boy, all right. It's time for the news. Bill O'Reilly is hanging around here somewhere. We'll do it all right all right. We're doing it live. That will do it law all right the big the big news right now. Okay? Enough God a the big news. Really is the COVID. Because cities around the world. It's well we're. We're number. One of course, but cities around the world are tightening back up as the coronavirus cases continue to climb, India could reach a million cases by the end of the week. That's a big surge that the is experts attribute to a rushed opening. What what what don't they understand? You know, that's what happens when you rush to open. People are going to get infected again. the UK's Academy of Medical Sciences Warning Countries to prepare. For a Winter Cova nineteen peak. They point out that people spend more time indoors in the winter and poorly ventilated areas plus healthcare systems are typically more tax in winter. Months Judas seasonable seasonal ailments and I that post cove immunity. Some people seem to be counting on well. There's a new study that suggested could last for merely a few months. But here in the United States. We lead the world. Yeah Florida alone has more cases than all but eight entire countries here in Florida saw a record fifteen, thousand three hundred new cases on Saturday. It dropped on Sunday to only twelve, thousand, six, twenty, four, which. If not for the fifteen, thousand three hundred would have been a record on its own. And today yes. It is Tuesday today Florida set a one day covid nineteen death record for our state with one hundred thirty two. So a Floridian is dying every eleven minutes from the COVID. Aren't we lucky I think we should all stand up and sing. And, in Ron to Santa's, we have a trumper as governor, so disantle spoke at a news conference at. Jackson Memorial Hospital yesterday Jackson. Memorial is a big is is Miami's biggest hospital system and. The mayors of the city of Miami and of Miami Dade County were there are and and. was doing what he does. He's just spewing bullshit. Thankfully there was a young man named Tomasz Kennedy who spoke up for me. And others other countless other Floridians. Here's a little bit of what happened in I. Think! When, this pandemic was really starting to pick up steam that point I don't even know if Miami Dade had a case. A positive test, maybe a couple, but it was obviously much different than what we're. Finding here. I think the So I think you. And your name. No. Nothing, Course so at that time when we had the. Home when? We had a whole bunch of concerns about what would end up. Santa's just keeps talking I. Don't know but I. don't care what to Santa says. Here's more of what Tomasz Kennedy was saying. I think. Or maybe not I am. You are doing your your falsifying information and you are misleading the public over four thousand people. You were blaming. You know black and you're doing nothing. Save on you. Also. Jayme on shame on. You are misleading the public. Thousand, people have died. We're getting. Day. Off! Shame on you. Resigned Santa's resigned. You could hear him to Santa's just kept talking over him, so I'm glad to most. Kennedy was recording as well so we got to hear what he was saying. That was pretty good. And California. Governor Gavin. NEWSOM yesterday ordered another statewide shutdown of a variety of businesses, including bars, indoor dining, movie, theaters and museums. Due to a wave of new COVID, nineteen. And in some of the more heavily populated counties. On the states watchlist where there are surges, they're also shutting down a hair, salons, gyms, malls, and other personal care. Related Businesses California has had an average of eight, thousand, six, hundred sixty four new cases per day over the past week. That's up more than fifteen hundred from the week before. Now, also yesterday both the Los Angeles, Unified School district and San Diego's school district announced they would not be reopening schools when classes begin on August eighteenth. But in orange, county behind the Orange Curtain, which lies between La and San Diego well, they are leaders voted yesterday to send their kids back to school in the fall with no mandatory masks and no increase social distancing despite the area sturgeon corona virus cases. That's the problem with living in a Republican area. You wind up in a place like Orange County California unbelievable. And we now know that a record number five point four million Americans lost their health insurance between February and May. Laid off due to the corona virus crisis so the pandemic, the biggest increase in uninsured workers in a single year with three point nine million, and that was during the two thousand, eight, two, thousand nine recession, well, the nonpartisan Kaiser family. Foundation is estimated that taking family members excuse me of the insured into account. A total of twenty seven million Americans have lost health coverage during this pandemic. You still think Medicare for all not a good idea well then. In that case. I've little song for you. All, right. So there's that Let's see the Republicans are touting. They were planning on New Corona Virus Recovery Bill. But. They want this bill to include financial incentives to push schools to reopen and shield healthcare workers and companies from lawsuits related to the Corona Virus Mitch McConnell says this liability production is protection to the thoughtful about Nancy. Pelosi said it would remove responsibility from employers institutions. The whole package is expected to cost around one point three trillion dollars, and they plan on rolling it out as soon as next week, but nothing can happen. Nothing is going to happen and well, if that's all, that's not bad enough. The federal government is killing Americans. We know that do their malfeasance in re in relation to the pandemic, but now they're literally killing people on purpose to. The Supreme Court ruled early this morning that the first federal executions in seventeen years could proceed US District Judge Tanya shut. Kin had temporarily blocked on Monday less than seven hours before Daniel Lewis Lee. Who they call a former white supremacist convicted for his part in the nineteen ninety-six killing of a family of three was scheduled to die by lethal injection. The judge said the process could result in extreme pain, needless suffering. Well the Justice Department immediately appealed at just the day before an appeals court cleared the way for the execution to proceed by overturning another delay, because the family said they didn't want to travel with the cove, it and whatever. The we put this man to death early this morning. So the same party that champions killing people also claims to be pro-life. Thankfully, there are some good judges left on the bench because this happened to. district or US District Judge Steve Jones yesterday struck down Georgia's six week abortion ban saying that it violated the constitutional liberty of the woman to have some freedom to terminate her pregnancy. This bill would have banned. Most abortions wants. A fetal heartbeat is detected, which can be as early as six weeks before the woman even knows this, she pregnant. But. That's not all in Tennessee. The Republican governor their bill. Lee signed in extreme bill into law yesterday, banning abortion as early as six weeks. Lee called it a historic moment and categorize the bill as quote, the most conservative pro-life piece of legislation in the country. The ban was in effect for less than an hour before a federal court blocked it. All right. Let's, let's let's just move on, shall we? Let's let's get laffy on the line. All we have to do is this this? And this. Place to go. yes, and in just a moment. We'll get laffy online. yes, we will. We gotta get her on the line. Hello. Would help if I. Turn this up there. She is hello do. You've reached Disneyworld. Reopen mood. disneyworld reopens okay. Yes, press one! If you think, they'll start calling disneyworld the most infectious place on her. Press two. If you think a new souvenir will be, take your picture with Mickey on a ventilator. Press three. If you think the seven dwarfs, name will be changed to achey rational, mopey, sickly, wheezy, Uzi and wobbly, and they can blame it all on trumpy. I like the trumpy one oh. Yeah, have a Nice Day and speaking of. No I know what you're about to say. I just saw it in the chat room. Say Yep Supreme. Court Justice Ruth Bader GINSBURG hospitalized for possible infections and just hope. Is. Just it's just making it right. It's it's nothing it's going to be a minor thing 'cause she's tough as nails come on ruth. Ruth I'm having like twenty heart attacks. Both I. The minute you I just looked over and saw Diane wrote that in the chat rooms, so no I just tweeted it out while you were doing the gone. The intro Oh my I'm I'm nervous. Always always. We have to get through the next four months. We have four months. although I wouldn't put it past Mitch McConnell even during trump's hopefully knock on wood laminate. Lame Duck session for. You know if something were to happen for him to try to push something through, and because there is no longer. A. Filibuster when it comes to supreme, court nominees There's really nothing the Democrats can do about it. There's not yeah, not she'll be okay. Positive thinking positive thinking. thinking. Okay. Yes deep! Okay okay. You want to get into tweets okay alright. Let loose the burden? Okay she's. TWEET! Okay so what are what are the twitter's tweeting about? Oh, boy, Oh, boy, oh, boy, nat. Today. It was announced that the trump administration which is this is through. Hamad. Ali God I'm going to mangle that name all. Okay Okay Oh synopsys with buzzfeed yeah. Let's just leave it at that. He said the trump administration, which is resistant to all. Push back against us. Immigration policies has reportedly decided to cut its own controversial international student policy. This decision comes as dozens of universities and states lined up in opposition to the measure. The government backed down completely right well, MIT and Harvard filed a suit and I guess they realized they were GonNa Lose, plus public sentiment was not on their side, so they backed off. Yeah wish that was true of everything. They defendants nudity. We'd be fine, no kidding no kidding. But speaking of breaking news young. Breaking what BRO This has been! A billion sources, but a judge denied bail for Jelena. iggy Maxwell yes. The largish socialite facing sex trafficking charges tied to her former boyfriend Jeffrey Ecksteen, good speaking for Maxwell's flight risk, the judge said the risks are simply too great though she is greatly concerned about the covid nineteen pandemic. The judge said that Maxwell's age or underlying conditions do not provide additional risks for her. She's denied bail. Her trial doesn't begin till twenty twenty one in July exactly. Wow that kind of stretch might. This is from horse. whisperer might incline someone to seek out a cooperation agreement to spill your guts. And something in return. She will stay in jail during. Until the until the trial, or until she's dead, exactly I was GONNA. Say She's GonNa Join Epstein and Ken Lay, and all these other people who mysteriously died in jail and I think they're all on an island somewhere. You know playing she. She proposed. That! She served her pretrial detention in a luxury Manhattan, of course she did. Why doesn't she just? Hey, what does she just Go stay with Roger. Stone. That's a couple you know. Remember I had Roger Stone on the show Oh. Yeah, well I, still have his phone number. Glowing him. I say we tried calling him. What the fuck? Yeah! He's unless he was using a burn now. It's this phone number. It's his phone. Let's say for we're. Got Nothing. To lose. It would be cool if he answered. He told me to choke him. To choke on your what? It's not turning picked up. Hypocrisy died. He's such a nice man me. Such a nice man come on bitch. I can't. Belonging to. Weather Stone. Your all. Time high again all right I guess we'll have to try again tomorrow. Dr Calling. Mailbox is full. Damn it. Is All right. Sorry I interrupted you. Oh, that's okay. That was worth it. So you mentioned this now. I don't see the source, so hold on one set well. I'll read it first and I'll go. I'll go to the article because naturally Apple News, and they cut the article emerging. You did touch on this emerging evidence evidence that the body's immune defense against Kobe nineteen. Maybe short lived. Yes, makes it even harder now. This person court, and because some other news just broke, makes it even harder for vaccine developed developers. Developers to come up with shots fully able to protect people in future waves of infection to be truly effective, the vaccines will either need to generate stronger and longer lasting protection, or they may need to be given regularly, and those things are not trivial right well. It'd be like like a flu shot which you have to get every year because they're saying that. The the the the effects of the antibodies are short-lived that maybe only a few months. They. That's what they were saying and that came on just before this broke Moderna, their vaccine priyanti bodies to the corona virus in all patients tested, and there were a mild side effects. Yeah, so that was so far success, but there's so much more see. They always give you that information, but what they don't tell you. Is that there's a whole lot of of. Subsequent. Hurdles. To get over including. The components that takes to manufacture all the vaccines who get them first and how many will be able to produce of course, the NBA players will get them first 'cause they're the ones getting twenty tests the week while the rest of us can wait in lines for ten hours, and maybe if we're lucky, get the results and five to seven days. Yeah! And there's that it's playing balls important of course playing ball matters Oh. God I. I was we were driving yesterday. We took a Hammy out for an outing. Yeah, and I passed by a house. Oh, should I don't have it here I? Think it said Yeah. There was a big side. This is was a new sign huge. It was just huge in front of their house with the American flag. Police lives, matter Oh God. That's what it is in our and now with that. They also say blue lives matter. That's this is police lies Mobley, and then just around the corner was. A House with the flag that says don't tread on me. Oh my God. Are you sure did? When did you move to Central Florida? Yeah. We've always lived at. This is a conservative. You're north of La. You're north of La Yeah. and. It is getting bluer I mean all. The California elections were were were very blue. By the way Orange County now good well, today was election day in. Alabama where where trump endorsed Roy Moore. Oh, so trump endorsed Roy Moore Maine has its primary, so we'll find out who is going to challenge. Susan Collins and beat her hopefully and Texas is having their run off. Still better ruptured a run because the Democratic candidates I don't even I don't even know who they are. Yeah, nor do I. Oh okay well. Here's one for you. This is from miles cle- and I don't know who smiles clay on A. He's got a blue check next to, but it just. Real miles clear what? Yes he did. This time he did too i. just heard it on the news before I took the air. A okay. That's Tommy Albertville I know but I heard somewhere that he endorsed Roy Moore today I'm GonNa look it up because I know what I heard moments before I came on the air. He! He tweeted his endorsement of Dubber Bill. Yeah I know, but then if he came out and said something who knows. Yeah and Tub Ville is the guy who has only. Coached football or something? Yeah, because he's qualified to be US Senate okay, so here's trump's holding a presser. Whatever trump signs China's sanctions bill targeting Hong Kong crackdown and an executive order to hold China accountable for oppressive actions against the people of Hong Kong. That's what his pressure was about. Okay I. Don't know what I heard, but I heard that I guess I'm wrong. Sessions is is fighting for his old. Senate seat in Alabama. Trump endorsed Tommy. Tuber Ville all I'm wrong. It's okay snapped me so miles. Clearly, the person who I have no idea who it is was a blue check next to his name. He his comment was. Life is beautiful. HE HE PUTS UP A. I, guess it's a screen. Grab Bolsonaro called his isolation from the corona virus horrible and was shortly afterwards bitten by EMW. Okay that's. Good I. Guess An e Mu. It's interesting how the move just? As there. You know what this a thank you because I need to. I need to speak out for a moment here. who died and said every car insurance commercial has to be stupid now. God. Thank you guy could commercials. I gotta say are at least funny. They're clever, but every other auto insurance company is trying to out stupid them. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Those EMU. Commercials are fucking ridiculous. If I ever was going to get insurance from liberty, mutual I wouldn't now and they when they first came on the scene, they were doing reasonable commercials like the kid comes home at night and goes into the PR. Look just like my son and he wrecked the car. That was a really good commercial, but instead they said No. We got a could compete with Gyco so let's get an e Mu and do really stupid shit on television. We'll be funny and no, you're not. God and each one is better than the others. It's sophisticated humor. God dressing up animals. Here's a I can't show you the picture, but there's a there is a picture of of Bolsonaro getting getting bitten by new. Photos. Yes sir good. Okay, so. This is something that you and I talked about that. You can probably get into more detail I will. Tekere Carlson Oh God. Announced he's going to be going on a long planned vacation trout fishing, and this was right after that whole thing broke. About with his his his top writer head writer. Having posted a bunch of social media racist misogynist. You name it, Laurel, bigoted racist anti-semitic, Ugly Shit under an assumed name and Yes, so the guy was outed, had to resign or was fired and I. Don't watch Tucker Carlson. I've never watched his show. So I could not, but what I heard he did, was he he? He talked around it last night. So he comes in this all broke on Friday, he could have done this on Friday, but he didn't. He comes in on Monday. To make excuses for. This guy doesn't doesn't apologize doesn't say what he did was so horribly wrong. He sorta talks in circles around it and then says by the way I'm taking a long planned vacation. I'm going trout fishing. Sure you are because everybody shows up for work on a Monday. Leave on vacation instead of leaving on Friday after the show, and and enjoying the weekend on both ends both. Gone Talk. You can do better than that lied before. There's a technical term for that Shit. Yeah, by the way here's more on Ruth Bader. GINSBURG from CNN can hide justice. GINSBURG was admitted to the Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore this early this morning for treatment of a possible infection. She was initially evaluated at Sibley Memorial in Washington DC last night after experiencing fever and chills. she underwent an. Endoscopic procedure at Johns Hopkins to clean out of Bil- duct stent that was placed last August the justices resting comfortably, and we'll stay in the hospital for a few days to receive intravenous antibiotic treatment. So shall we fi she'll be. On she nails, she'll be fine. Just keep her away from the Ronan patients, please yes, please yes, okay. The next one I'm going to do what I sent you a little video. Oh, you did, hold on. Let me find that I'll read it while you set it up. Yes from Oliver Willis, who has been writing and he's he's. He's pretty darn good i. you said during online town hall where he took questions for lunch with Lindsey. Winky winky Lindsey Graham reads note sent in for him. Okay, so so I'm not gonNA play the video. 'cause. I'll just play the audio, so here's this Linzie sitting in in his August. Read the quote or do come. Just go for I'll just play it. Yeah, so here goes. Eat. Glass and drink moved and have lunch with the good news for you, and you don't have to have lunch me power. You wouldn't eat grass and get. He didn't say grass. He said glass. So Lindsey even screwed that up. So the commenters said I'd rather eat glass. Then have lunch with you and drink monitoring. Whatever and Lindsey said you don't have to eat glass. You don't have to eat grass. Okay Lazy. He's not the brightest. He may be a lawyer, but yeah yeah. Not The brightest bulb in the chandelier. Yeah, not even close now. I don't even know if he's one of the wires and. okay, so GIO GOP representative caught the hoax. Hoax Oh. Yes, representative Morgan Griffith Republican from. Virginia has tested positive cove nineteen, and here's the thing Both. His Jake Sherman. Yeah both the representative Scott Perry Andy Biggs Arizona were not wearing masks and were mere feet from representative. Griffith days ago, you just he just in this is why experts suggest wearing a masks yet, oh I should of brought it in I bought us all. Not that I leave the house, a literally could count on. Two hands and I've gone to a few doctors appointments. The Times I've left the House since March twenty second, which was the last day I went to the animal shelter to. Work with the dogs, but I bought us the three of us all those fe shields, those plastic face shields. They're very cool, and you can wear it with a mass underneath, but you really don't need to what they're saying. These do more to protect you. A cloth based does more to protect other people. The shields the plastic shields work in both directions, and it's I. Find It more comfortable actually. Not Yeah. They sell disposable ones are in bulk I don't know. But it seems to me. They would be telling them in bulk. On TV. Oh, well these I got I got on at C.. Actually I saw an article about you know that are faced Ma are face shields better for you than the masks and the consensus seems to be that in the long term. Yeah, these are offer more protection, and it works in both directions and. Worse is a thick. It's thick plastic thing that wraps around it covers your eyes, and you know goes over your face under your Chin and the thing is if someone coughs on you the cough. The droplets are not gonNA come up under the shield and so the fifteen bucks each so I got one for me one for David one for Allison. You Jimmy the yeah. I'll send you the link. Yeah, yeah, I'm really impressed with it. So here's something from Yvonne that Jake. Tapper commented on all Lanka's first okay. Funke Ivanka said more than ever more than ever daddy. Pledge to America's workers is focused on helping American's. Bolster schedules to find new jobs and navigate career transitions today today we are launching the find something new ad campaign. So Jake, tapper, said a new White House backed ad campaign aimed to encourage people who are unemployed or unhappy, and their jobs or careers took him out and just. Find something new, so you were going to. What are you going to be? You were going to be a doctor. I was at home, yeah. It says if you can't get a job doing what you do, just do something else, okay. I will be a doctor I mean if Donald, trump can do I can certainly do it and I can tell people. Not to. Don't wear a mask and don't worry about social distancing. It's OK although that wouldn't be very successful. So yeah, but why not I can be a doctor, I can make lots of money and I do tell of visit thing so i. don't even have to see people in an office. Yeah, then you can just stay at home how I wanted to be. A Sitcom Star. Okay because that was my first. Life you know that was my first well as my second career I've had a lot of careers, but I was I had a long career on TV. Ages ago and I'm going to be a TV star. Ivanka said I could. Sure, why not? Because it's that easy? You know it doesn't matter that I've only worked in radio since nineteen seventy nine and I'm sixty years old and sure it'll be easy for me to just go out and find another job in a different field because who who's not gonNA. Hire a sixty year. Old Woman has never done anything but radio her whole life. Doctor! Dr Why not? Okay Yeah. After I'm a star for a couple of months. I'll I'll open a restaurant. Okay, Hey, you know what this is something. For Show for another day. What have you done differently since you've been? Quarantining at home and we have been eating healthier. Seriously we have. We're not one hundred percent Vegan, but we've been cooking Vegan I making these vegan cheeses and Vegan meals and oh my God. It's really good. So, I'm going to I'm going to have to put up a page on my website with Vegan recipes. Because we have a few favorites right now and just today to where making Polenta pizza for dinner and I made this I made this Vegan Mozzarella cheese just before we came on the air so I'm going to have to. Check it out tonight, but I can't wait to try it. I'll give you recipes. I'll give you recipes. I've turned on I'm the most. Domestically challenged person I know me, too, and and. But I've been cooking and I've been like really. Sick, we cannot have back. That's not allowed. Right just wrong. Hey, warranty! Pandemics make four strange bedfellows I suppose in Didi. It is warming here now. If we get knocked off the air, it's because we're in the middle of a big thunderstorm. Oh case you were wondering okay. Okay! So this is a political investigative reporter or something named Noah Prance Ski and WHO said Developing this is developing not unlike my brain. Florida's top Republicans told they may have been exposed to corona virus at a Jacksonville fundraiser by a lobbyist who later tested positive and. Get this fuel masks were worn. Stocker there. How could that be? The Republicans always wear masks I. Don't know where they got that idea. That must be wrong. Donald Trump wore a mask the other day now granted, he was at Walter Reed. Hospital where you have to wear a mask, and you and I can't go into Walter Reed Hospital to visit somebody sick, but he did any wore a mask and the media acted like. He. Is Yes they. They gave him a Goddamn cookie, and then he he ends up pulling it down so as noses exposed, so they take the cookie away now. And then he took it off right after his photo op, so they now should not only take the cookie back that make him throw it up because. He all he did was do it for a photo op, and because the hospital probably made him. Yeah, well. They I'm sure they made him, but the other thing is. Did you see Ted Cruz on American Airlines without mask and people are calling him out on twitter and Amir as they're going to look into it sure sure they are. Yeah right I'm sure they're right on that. Ryan Grim Yes our friend Mighty Ryan Grim. He said a much younger Mitch. McConnell wants trolled trump by returning a thousand dollar check after trump bankruptcy I wonder if trump remembers that he says and here's the. Here's the articles very short. McConnell returns trump's donation. There's a little picture of trump and and McConnell looking very young, and probably in the nineties I'm guessing us. Senator. Mitch. McConnell has returned two thousand dollar contribution to trump because he said the debt dogged developer needed the money more than his reelection campaign. The Ref-. Refund showed up yesterday a report that McConnell a Republican filed with the Kentucky Registry of election finance McConnell's campaign manager Jim Cunningham quoted from July tenth letter that McConnell sent trump years the letter while. I thank you for your contribution I. Have noticed several stories in the last few weeks about your financial difficulties. Having been through difficult Financial Times in myself. I know Ha. How hard can be on a person? Although I am certain, you will recover. I have decided to return your contribution of thousand dollars because it appears you may need the money more than I do right, yeah! That's funny. That's okay yeah. That's such a good troll. He really and that was before trolls were. On. Watch your bridges. Under under bridges under bridges. And walls with the hair with the shock of colored hair. Remember those trolls off, yes, I used to have a bunch to though we're old. The young young people under thirty are going what wait. On three inches falls with hair. Actually they resurrected them for the movie trolls so. Younger people might know what we're talking about. But when we were kids, they were, they were toys. We. We we we're old. Okay so we're GONNA. This is my last little section, and this is about going to opening the schools. Okay, and I've been ranting on twitter like if you're if you can't reopen businesses, and if you have to start closing them again like we are now, and and if cases are skyrocketing, how does the opening schools even make any sense? And then on NBC? There was a teenager who they were interviewing said she didn't want to be part of that experiment, which spot on and then on top of that we have this article from the daily beast is really data shows. That school openings were a disaster that wiped out lockdown gains of fourteen hundred. Ezra is diagnosed with cove. Nineteen last month, forty seven percent were infected in schools now two thousand and twenty six students, teachers and staff have it and twenty, eight, thousand, one, hundred, forty, seven are quarantined. Well who would who would send their kids but I get I. Get it I kids need socialization and many of them will not do the work at home on a computer. I'm so glad my kid has done with school because this would be hell for us because I could never get her do her homework, she would. It was it was an a losing battle. She hated school. She was not a good student. So I really feel for those parents, but what are you? What do you do? I wouldn't send my kid back to school. Dishman teacher you heard about the three teachers in I think they were in San Diego who gather who worked together. They went into the classroom three of them to do distance learning to do the online thing. They wore masks. They did everything they were supposed to do. They still got infected all three of them in one of them died. Oh, God I didn't hear that on the news last night. You know I own. That's why I didn't hear. I worked at schools for well over a decade. Closer to two decades, and you've got the groundskeepers. You've got the nurses. You've got the the librarians. The Hamas workers the cafeteria workers. You name it other teachers, of course everybody pass. The minute. Somebody gets a cold in a classroom. Everybody gets it and you cannot tell kids to sit in. You know. Do their disciplined sitting in distancing because they'll try, but they won't succeed right the they cannot. They will not sit still right, and they will not do what they're supposed to do, I, do have one more tweet effort. Okay, okay or Somebody just text you or something I saw. That's the bad part about being on camera because we could see I heard Ding, and then I see you looking down and looking. Oh, I news alert. Oh. Yeah and they get repetitive. That was still about Ruth Bader. GINSBURG Gotcha. They! Like all the organizations. Start sending them. In May kind of cascade in a few minutes. And then I. Accidentally turned the camera on them on my phone, and then I had the cameras. Don't ask 'cause I'm not good at this either doing video at the same time. okay, so Hans Meyer. Somebody. Who responded to me, said Republican officials are said to be planning to move the three nights of their Florida convention outdoors, and then he goes hurricanes. Summer afternoon thunderstorms, which you're experiencing now ninety to ninety five degrees in higher ninety to one hundred percent. -squitoes people crammed in Kogo Nineteen. What could go wrong outdoor in Florida in August? NUFF said. You don't know you can't do that. You need air conditioning air. Conditioning and Cova don't get along very well. Round thing yeah. Not a good thing. No, that's the end of my tweets. Okay, well I want to share with you one thing because you know how cra-, we've got like two minutes. Okay? Crazy things are here on Florida. There's this woman named Rebecca Jones who was one of the health officials in the state of Florida and she she was fired, basically because she called out to Santa's and the and the state government for not being honest about the stats on the number of covert infection, so she left, she put her own website up and so she was on with Lawrence O'Donnell last night. Yes, and as bad as things are, I'm gonNA play for this clip from the interview. because she says we're not hearing half half of it, so state of Florida's publicly available data. Is it still as flawed to put it mildly as it was when you were fired? It's much much worse than. Hired unfortunately they save dumped antigen tests into the percent positively, but not separated them. They restricted some data. They haven't added anything new. At least from the Department of Health, so things unfortunately have only gotten worse. So is the is the actual coronavirus situation. In Florida worse than these statistical picture, we are reporting about absolutely absolutely Aachen data, which is the agency for Healthcare Administration Different Agency in Florida started releasing hospitalization data Friday by Saturday. I headed up on my new dash. Ford at Ford, a covert action DOT COM, and it showed that in many counties there are currently more people hospitalized right now than do ages reporting have been hospitalized ever. So it's not even close. Then what? What about the actual infection? When we see a report that they had over fifteen thousand in one day is. Is that a reasonably accurate number? We always know that testing is limited by mobility geography access health insurance doctors, all kinds of factors so on any given day. We're not testing a fair share of population on. It's not. Not distributed equally among the population, and there's also a capacity a limit to how many tests the state can run today and I think they've run up against that limit this. Has Florida done anything to prepare for the reopening of schools that the governor is urging my understanding at this point that the state is allowing counties to take whatever measures they feel are necessary. Individuals that that's enough. I mean the whole thing is just a sounding Florida is. There are calls for onto Santa's to quit what we heard the protester in that the thing yesterday. The Miami University the Jackson Memorial yesterday saying resign. People are calling for him to resign. This has been such an enormous complete. Fuck Up. That you know here. We are Florida Leon. Were alone yeah of hiding numbers, and now trump is going to bypass the CDC. Data reported directly to the government, so we're not gonNA. Get accurate numbers from them anymore. Not that we ever did all right, we're done. Thank you, everybody. Thank you got allow finder on the twitter's. Thank you. We'll be back tomorrow I. Don't know what we're GONNA do, but we'll be here by everyone.
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Holy cow greasy up. But anyway, trucking firm bids I've been in it's challenging some trucking firms. We're bringing it up dear as area and others were like, yes. And some pictures much curbside space. There is blah, blah, blah. So I think of got to three they're gonna send me bits about the same. About four hundred to five hundred dollars is crazy to drop a twenty foot trailer. Bring it twenty miles drop the trailer. Come back four five six seven eight days later, pick it up and take a twenty miles back to the container yard. And but you know, it is what it is. Right. So getting that done. I've got the final bid on the container actually down that came in this afternoon and got thirty days to execute on that one thing, you know, Michael der said, hey, Todd, go to Home Depot they've that. They've got packing supplies there. So I I went into Home Depot. And while I'm standing there looking at the stuff and they've got a good selection of packing materials. My wife walks up. She goes just order that stuff on Amazon, and I'm like when I checked some other places the other day, it wasn't cheap. She says, no, no, no, no. She brought up, you know, plastic grab bubble wrap. It all was about. Buck or two a piece, you know, cheaper as wow, I'm shocked. You know, an of course, I'm looking at 'em say, well, it's right here in front of me. And she's like alright. So you're gonna say Twenty-three cents on each one of those you're gonna use hundred of those, and you know, she's like guilting me into, you know, making sure that I don't spend an extra one hundred dollars, which is smart and everything so I've been looking at pricing and in their notion, ping. I I don't know how Amazon is doing it. I'm happy that they are. But who knew that you could order home shipping supplies for Amazon, and they're essentially cheaper than everything. I can find here locally in Hawaii. And I'm sure in the mainland when you're in a non Hawaii shipping zone. It's probably even cheaper that. He might be picked up locally cheaper than Amazon. But that's what it is also been talking a little bit with my with my sister. And we've gotta get back into the space that. I'm going to be putting the studio in just because I need to take major and he'd get pictures. So that in in the several months before I am back there. Six weeks before I'm back Daikin really start to concentrate on what I'm gonna do. And if I need need to get some carpenters in earlier all that stuff. So I'm scheduled to go to Columbus on sepT. No September my God April twentieth. At fly out the twentieth again in Columbus on twenty. I I may just immediately drive up to Michigan spend the night. Do the measurements. Get the pictures that I need and then drive back to the office and be in mid morning on the twenty second. I it's too late to change airline tickets is not worth it to do it and Sunday drive. Probably won't be so bad in a Monday morning drive won't be so bad. But it all depends on how all how sideways I am. From fr. Mhm flying. All my bet. If I do it's just going to be like a day in and get get the data and everything because I'm just I'm asking my sister for stop and am not it's hard to get everything that I want exactly they want from her without me being there. So but anyway, that's what's going on. And just you know, he's kind of thinking about that this afternoon a little bit it isn't confirmed. I mean, do it might be nuts to make quick run up there. But his things aren't gonna move that fast. Because I went to have to, you know, once I make a decision in my head that I'm gonna I'm no I'm gonna have to be there and tell the carpenter this this this and this, and and we've got lots of Amish carpenters in the neighborhood, and they're really good. And I'll probably just use them to do to do the work. They're fast their reasonable. And I know when I get done I'm going to have a a quality product that's going to look. Fantastic. So anyway, we'll see what happens, but that's what's going on. So let's quit and get into his I've been talking about this move. I gotta find insurance. That's only thing haven't found yet his shipping insurance. So I gotta do some googling on that. And see what I have to do to come up with with shipping insurance. Just I'm sure it's going to be easy. Just haven't looked at it. And so any we'll see what goes on. All right. Let me go ahead and pop these windows and get this ready to move on. And if you're if you're watching on the live streams, please say Hello, you're on YouTube. If you're and Facebook, if you're where remain be wherever you're watching the show give a shout out and say say, hi, definitely would predate it to end that way. I know you're watching. All right. So let's talk about family tree. DNA this blows me away. At home, DNA testing company family treaty, and as asking customers to share their genetic data to help law enforcement solve crimes video featuring Ed smart, the father kidnapping victim, Elizabeth smart attempts to frame the sharing of its genetic database with FBI as a positive, according to MIT technology review. The video will air as an ad in San Diego police or recently able to solve one hundred seven nineteen seventy nine murder after final link in a public available DNA database now let me explain that. Do you think you have any criminals in your in your family? Is there an uncle or an aunt or a, you know, someone in your family DNA tree your genealogy tree? The you think is a criminal. Is there is there an uncle's kid that you think killed somebody? Is there a is there? Someone in your. In your spear of your family who has maybe rape someone. Because with them asking you. To share your genetic data with law enforcement. You might you might be responsible for getting a family member put in jail. Now. In some parts of the country. You know that that could not that could go badly for you. And depending on your family. In what they do. And how they are, you know, some family there's a, you know, there's a a rotten egg. You know, sometimes there is, you know, or maybe don't even know. So. We all can feel when a loved one is the victim of a violent crime. You know, I I especially you know, I have a cousin. We've talked about on the show her key her two or three boys excuse me were were kidnapped by the father and more than likely killed by the father. Now, it's a good. We know who the suspect is he's in Jackson prison. Not for murder. Prefers something like unlawful restraint or some some some type of kidnapping type of charge. He's in for ten years or so, but at some point he's probably going to get out. Now, we can feel or our loved ones that are victim of of violent crime and want answers. So on one side. If were we have family members who have been the victim, we want those potential family members that are relatives to whoever may have done this to be able to voluntarily give up their genetic data. But if you're on the other side of the table, and you're the family that has a bad rotten egg over there. Do you want to be the one that? Causes that person to get arrested. In the case of the nineteen seventy nine hundred seventy nine murder in San Diego law enforcement founded distant relative of the murder, Paul gene chatter on who's DNA was in the database police, then work backwards to find Tadiran drek family members who also provided DNA they were then able to identify him as a source of the blood found at the crime scene. Well, police are embracing genetic genealogy as a way to solve decades. Long cold cases privacy, critics and bio bio ethicists argue the shuts tap tactics. Intrude upon civil liberties. Family tree DNA does allow customers to opt out of sharing such information with blonde forcement, please can only access the same information that regular customers can on family tree DNA, but genealogy sluice should be wary. Simple. Search warrant or court order can give the police access to even more of your personal details. They do say they will not voluntarily work with law enforcement, and it will require a search warrant. But it does give you pause to think about this. If you think you've got a relative that did something, and you think that relatives should have been punished. But was never was. And all they needed was potentially some DNA. Well, goes the other way too, right? So what do you guys think about this? What do you think? I'm trying to think of my family. Do I have to have any bad aches? And the other side. No, not that. I know of. You know, obviously, they will the one bag is Jackson prison, but he's not part of our genealogy mix. But you know, it the way it's it's amazing. How distant relatives out outwards and downwards in even upwards of the genealogy food chain can be detected because of you know, so many pairs so makes you think a little bit doesn't it? So I'd be curious. Are you gonna make you DNA public? And if you want to reply Email, just send me an Email getting his gmaiLcom and tell me, yes, if I do a DNA tests, I'm gonna make it available to the to law enforcement. You know, having been prior military and had a DNA tests taken I already signed my rights away. My my DNA in all my information is in the database already because of the, you know, basically the military wanted to have a way number one. If you know if I got splattered in a aircraft crash away of denting my remains and number two. Well, it just went into the database. And I'm sure a lot of federal employees don't know that they've already been had DNA collected that that is you've often sign your rights away to that information being made publicly available. Are switching gears here. Can't be exciting news and internal documents shows that apple is capable of implementing right to repair legislation. And. But this basically the program looks almost like almost exactly like the requirements of right to repair business proposed in twenty twenty state. Now apple continues to fight legislation that would make it easier for consumers to repair their phones. But according to the presentation titled apple apple genuine parts repair dated, April two thousand eighteen they companies but begun to give some repair companies access to apple diagnostic software or wide variety of genuine, apple repair parts repair training. Notably places. No restrictions type repairs. The independent companies are allowed to do the presentation notes at repair companies can keep doing with their doing with apple genuine parts, reliable part supply an apple process in training. So this broadly speaking is what right to repair activists have been asking for states for many many years. And folks are saying this looks like a framework for complying with right repair legislation. Kyle will and CEO of I fix it. And prominent member of the right to repair movement told the folks at motherboard on the phone he's as right now, they're only offering it to a few mega chains. But it seems clear to me that the would be totally possible comply with the right to repair. You know, MAC book down here. The only thing we need to motherboard right mother ordinate. Keyboard. And it would be back in business the one that got the chemical spilled on it. But no, no, no, those parts are not not available. Maybe I could take it apple and have it repaired for a tidy sum. But interesting move here. All right. So we'll see what happens, but hopefully, they're loosening its grip on on the iphone and MAC repairs. It would be exciting. If they did a little competition the space, maybe I guess it all depends on the cost of the repair items. But when more people are allowed to repair, what do you what where's the the savings at labor, the labor, Costco, down then departs cost what the parts cost, and he had a little competition the space. All right. The FCC listen to this number listen to this number the FCC fine. Robo collars, two hundred eight million dollars since two of two thousand fifteen but they only collected six thousand seven hundred ninety dollars. The FCC an FTC failed o'clock, the vast majority of rural call fines, they they've they find people two hundred eight million dollars now for you. That are on Berezin don't leave tonight. Don't or if you're listening show during the don't go anywhere. I got big news big big news near the end of the show. All right. So these robot callers. Only paid up 67.90. And they got the information from a freedom of information act request. Separately, the has collected hundred twenty one million out of one point five billion dollars worth of penalties issued against rebel collars since two thousand and four. The dearth Dir of financial panties collected by government in violations of telemarketing and auto dallying shows the limit the limits that if TC FCC. You know, Bill of what they've been able to collect. And. Oftentimes CFCC tries to settle with violators for some amount lower than the proposed fine. And you know, they have DC has more thorough than the FCC require refunds for consumers and shutdown Roble cau- operations, but it just goes on and on and on. Why aren't they collect these fines? Maybe they can't. Maybe they don't know who the heck even running these operations are unable to go in there and and pull the plug on them. But this is why our phones are exploding off the hook. It's why today thirteen calls in an hour the office, and they hit me the Pakistani. Roble collars woke up and started dialing or wherever the heck they came from India, or wherever it was whatever the sweat room was. It's always at tells us, I he answered the phone any here. They can't hardly disguise. Click click, and so now, I'm so pissed off doing this just basically I had basically hit mute on the speaker on the Mike phone, and I just put I put the phone down. And I let him talk to themselves for as long as they will figure out on that listening just trying to slow them down a little bit. It drives me crazy. I just used to hang up on them. But they would just call me back in two minutes from a different number like so stupid answer the phone again. But help his hair. All right. The US wants copyright troll. Hey, remember pen to law US, the United States wants copyright troll lawyer in prison for twelve and a half years. So Paul Hans Meyer, one of the lead attorneys of the contrel controversial law firm prendra of which the pirate Ray played crucial. In the case since it was where printer uploaded porn to extract settlements from alleged pirates. Hinz Meyer admitted his wrongdoing is requesting a more lenient sentence of a little over seven years. The now defunct print law firm repeatedly deceive courts, we talked about them a lot on this show. And of course, most controversial is a shocking revelation that print uploaded their own towards the pirate bay creating honeypot for people. They later sued over pyre to downloads. And you know, we started talking about this a long time ago. And. So anyway, we'll see what these guys actually yet type time or time time he gets you know, in total parental on January three million dollars in fraudulent copyright lawsuits. Going to jail for twelve years was at worth three million dollars. But. Bouts? No by no means illegal to go after file shares the print attorneys cross the line by repeatedly lying to or misleading the courts, this is where they got in trouble and enhance my also filmed in produce me, the videos himself in the court to believe that they were from third party porn company. It's insane insane insane in saints. The recording the porn pornos themselves silently gets twelve and a half years into. It's been a long time coming. I it's rising. It's taken this long. Right. All right must move on here. Oh, ho ho look who's in who's in the news who. Huawei the UK reports. Details new and existing away security issues. The United States has been very vocal about his qualms by Chinese tech giant away going as far as charged with a laundry list of crimes are stealing trade secrets to wire fraud. But the European governments have taken a more quiet approach. This may finally be changing. And then report reveals the UK's unhappy with as tech and concerned about the risk. It brings to the country's telecommunications networks. The Anna report from the US cybersecurity valuation center oversight sports point out significant technical issues in ways engineering process that leads to new telecom risk additionally failed addressee Kim city. Security concerns raised by the board in last year's report. And of course, way says the takes these concerns very seriously, but gal toy our arms of the Chinese Red communist government. Do we not how stupid how stupid can we be to not think that they're completely compromised? The cheap. But yes, how can we not? How can we not even for a moment? Think they are not completely compromised. This is just the tip of the just oh my gosh. We are so stupid. We are so dumb and having shipped so much of our high tech industry to China chip-making, all that stuff that we've given up here in the United States. They don't have to have a war with us. I just shut down traffic food chain. Craziness, but let's move out of this world a little bit the held Hubble telescope. Yes. It's so up there still in operation captured a rare disintegrating asteroid so two long narrow material streaming from six four seventy eight Gault a two point five mile wide for rock in the main asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. Gulp completes one rotation. Every two hours. It's so fast that the asteroid is flinging material off its surface into open space, and they say, it is basically disintegrating, and it's got quite the light show that's been detected from the the Hubble and the observatory's here in Hawaii Spain. Oh and also in India. So some pretty cool pictures, the the they put online about this and. You just wonder what it looks like, you know, how much how much stuff is actually spinning off. It's gotta be a lot put up late show like this. But anyway, little bits of Cohen out and space. I guess you don't want to drive a spacecraft through that. We're dog setting right now. Get to hear the hear barking in the background. My wife's not home right now. So don't know. So they're they're having a time lives by themselves and barkin saying, hey, let me in. Have you heard of Kodi Kodi is a it's your own version of Netflix, Amazon prime and the folks at make use of dot com ever pre could article on this again, put code is a program for streaming media content that you own it's open source with means, it's free. And then we contribute to the project. It began life as the XBox media center. Oh, and the original devolve still maintain Kodi and there's a large community of developers contributing to the project currently Kodi is available for windows MAC, Lennox injury, IOS and raspberry pi the source code is open to all as well. And put on devices like the Amazon fire TV sticker. You're smart TV. So I'm going to be investigating this definitely something we're going to play around with okay? Article gin and make use of dot com. Talk about iphone security and seven ways to make your face ide-, more secure this a pretty good. Some of this stuff is like, oh, that's cool. Let me look at my settings. And. I think this is this is pretty slick here and how to temporarily disable face ID, and all this type of activities that you may want to consider so a link up being the show notes on that as well. Lift well there I PO is most of you listening today lift to set the cruise onto Wall Street with this with its debut, and how much are they going to try to raise thou lift has IPO could give lift evaluation roughly twenty billion significant higher than it's fifteen billion estimated value as a private company lot of folks that started lift of they're going to get rich tomorrow. So lift abuse is is the first of many expected public offerings. This year fell goes plan in two thousand nineteen Uber. Airbnb Pinterest slack in Pailin. Tar among other tech companies expected to go public analysts think that you're the most highly valued private company could go be worth as much as one hundred twenty billion after going public which would make it make it the biggest IPO in US history. I think lift is going to go big. I'm a big lift fan VIN writing mostly lift. Really sense. They started Uber started having their major harassment type issues over there. So we'll see how it goes tomorrow. So I don't fall I'm not following politics to close it really not I'm trying 'cause it's just like the twenty twenty presidential stuff is already running. The people are already out campaigning. I'm just like, please just kill me. Now, I don't wanna hear any of this. But Amy klobuchar char is how you pronounce her name wants broad brand. In every household by twenty twenty two. She says that if she's elected president twenty twenty she would implemented trillion dollar infrastructure plan, including a bold initiative all high speed internet to every household by twenty twenty twenty two a trillion a trillion. You think it's going to cost a trillion dollars to get internet to the rest of America. Come on a trillion. Maybe hundred billion, but a trillion. She says she had accomplished this by closing the urban rural digital divide by work who's gonna pay for that too. Correct. The current broadband, ma'am, something has been hotly criticised now that needs to be fixed club ajar specifically has been advocate for dig once policies. That would push is peace layout internet infrastructure at the same time as federally funded roads are being paved question is why are we not doing this? Why isn't the government if the government is federally funding? Rhodri construction. Why are we not during that construction? Why isn't the US government dropping the fiber in if the ISP's won't the government drops the fiber? And then makes the is peas pay t use that fiber hus- dupe. It are we in. What's it take? What what extra money? Does it take to drop to trench in while you're gotta roads tore up you working on sewers, you working on water everything how hard is it to drop in fiber weird so dumb? Why haven't we been doing this already? If you like are on city councils briefing like that. In. You're gonna your city is going to start repaving roads. You know? I hope if you're on a city council do doing this campsite USA. Hey, by the way, why why don't we crop fiber in while we're at it, the minimal cost to drop it in as to be like ridiculously almost nothing. And yet, then we can start taking control a little bit more of a broadband, you know, shirts can take twenty years to get fiber end. But so what start now we should have been doing it for twenty years already. I was pricing broadband in where I'm gonna have my studio in Michigan. And it looks like the fastest speed available is four hundred down twenty up. But there it looks like maybe one gig services available. Hold your hats. I never got the upload speed. What it would be they'll, but but one gig down was to forty nine a month for business rates. I can like in swat. Oh that if I have some metrical, which I doubt, but it's four hundred twenty on the business lines. I was actually looking at the town. I'm in has to internet service providers. So probably I'm going to be putting in two drops. I think it's only when we get enough bandwith to do what I wanna do. And once again, you know, business business broadband is. I mean. Gene. Crazy. It really really is MS sisters gotta drop already in her building. So we're talking about it. And I'm we might push her speed up, and we'll have two drops. You know, just have to punch a hole in the running lane cable through so time will tell on how. But again, it's on the same node. So you know, you may not be even worth it. Because if I'm pushing five six megs, I take hers I push five six megs, you get my point. So we'll only know once I get there. But one thing's for sure with the advent of me using the walls of server that has been pretty solid here lately. And that really lowers the amount of bandwidth I need with the exception of Skype stuff. Inmates in Finland training. Artificial intelligence part of the prison labor program, so prison labor is usually societas with physical work but inmates in two prisons in Finland or doing new type of labor the classifying data to train artificial intelligence logarithms for a startup though. The start have been questions called van new. They see the partnership as a kind of prison reform, the teaches bad skills of the other expert says it plays into exploitative economics of prisoners being required to work for low wages will they contract who cares. NBC basically, they're having they're doing stuff like two articles news a news article that talks about apple. And then maybe something is in our talks about the apple industry. And they have to say this is about apple the tech company in apple that you eat. So anyway, that's happening Finland. MGM epochs is now streaming services and now available on Roku. Amazon fire TV he's dogged. Try me crazy, and I have no way to yell at them. In February Jimmy launch streaming service sports premium channel epix and it's available for five ninety nine a month. In. What is it have available on it? Hey, quiet. Wow. Sorry, I yelled in your year. Everybody. So again, it's on the real quick Amazon. Fire TV if you're interested in the EMMY is like Berlin station. Deep state Elvis goes here. Whether the stuff is available. I don't have the full list. But I definitely take a look again another little Wacker wallets by ninety nine Sony is merging lutron IX division. Hiding staggering mobile losses. Their mobile division lost so money, it it wiped out all prophets Sony. Had Sony Mobile's lost one hundred point six billion yen or nine hundred ten million dollars current exchange rates so mobile loss enough in the most recent quarter to completely wipe out all of Sony's profits from movies over the over the last year lost more than a camera division earned in prophet. Yep. They're they're in trouble. Is it good article or here on the verge in? You know, I I guess I haven't been paying attention to the news. I guess I don't you know, I'd stay away from it. But I understand that the midwest some areas of had some extraordinary flooding going on but AT and T is working with the Argonne National Laboratory scientists and their supercomputing power. The Tel commission company hopes to protect its infrastructure from flooding in extreme weather events in a project increases climate change continues Christina through that in there. So they're basically looking at where the towers are and trying to make determinations on where they're going to run new aligns and so forth, and what what's going to happen there buff ground. Copper wire service when stuff happens in storms. So they're trying to get smart on on what's going on with their infrastructure to plan for the future. So it's kind of interesting article in that regards. Apparently, there's a bug out there called serious magneto, and it will likely be exploited in the wild by card skimmers, this Wallner ability in ecommerce pot worms is putting his many as three hundred thousand commerce sites at risk. So it's a SQL injection role in -bility lack that had taxes can exploit with no thank -ation required. Hackers could exploit the flaw. Take administrative control of administrative accounts, assuming they hacker can download username and password hashes. So whereas on what is the? What is the plant form? Oh, it's magneto mega gentle is the actual platform. So the ones that are affected are magenta commerce magenta open sores of virgins anyway links in the for. So if you are running any ecommerce stuff be aware, there's there's some issues out there. I don't know if there's patches or not. Twitter may blow will label notable tweets that violates its terms. It was it will still take down direct violent threats and other tweets that crossed the line. But they're considering a label again for tweets, violates its rules. But Lee, but it believes the tweet should remain on the plant or because they're in the public interest. Oh show. They're gonna start flagging. The president's tweets Twitter's head of legal policy in trust said in a Washington Post interview such a label could put some context around a tweet. So people are aware that the content is actually violation of a rules in his serving a particular purpose and remaining on the platform. So that's an interesting interesting development here. So they make label notable tweets that violets, violates its terms. The FTC find Office Depot. Twenty five million dollars for bogus virus scans on. How much you're going to be able to clip probably clicked about thirty bucks from Apas depot. But they alleged light customers. Order to get them to pay for tech support three tiller offer consumers of free virus scan which would claim to the person's can claim that the person's computer was infected with now wear even if it wasn't wow. To carry out fake skins. Office Depot used a piece of diagnostics offer called PC health. Check, which is created licensed by support dot com. All the tool was supposedly running a virus scan on the customs, computer. The results are produced were actually based on a series of questions that the that the customers asked prior the scan those questions include whether the computers running slowly receive buyers warnings crashes off and on by pop up ads if a person answered yes to one of the four questions they would be told machine has Mauer Office Depot would then off to fix a problem. Charging up to three hundred dollars for an UN necessary repair site going to the car salesman. Oh, yeah. Your car smoking a little bit is they pour oil in your carburetor. There's been a lot of talk switching gears here in a lot of talk recently about BBC wind to Ed third parties to its sound apps. They're trying to balance apple and Spotify dominance in podcast in music. So earlier this week the BBC pulled its podcast from Google podcast app. And the assistant platform after determining that it wasn't getting enough out of the relationship, quote, unquote, specifically noting that Google wasn't providing it with enough, quote unquote, audience data in search links to its own sites and services. So in other words, Google wasn't providing enough spy information on its listeners. So the BBC announced it's working out and expansion of its own sounds app. It's in talks with other media companies add their podcast life streams to it. And we hope so help out not just the BBC itself. But other media owners to find more competitive leverage against not just apple not just Google. But also, apple and Spotify. Oh, they're getting worried here. So I think the BBC what his dick done years, a bad thing to be honest with you and having their shows pulled from Google, it's who's hurting the Android users. So the Android users out there, if you're searching for BBC podcast, you can't you have to go to the BBC now and find them they're not in search, no more they're removed. You can't use the Google podcast app. No more it's removed. It's craziness. Why would you ever shutdown podcast distribution? I don't care where you listen. We are everywhere you listen these days. So, you know. Or ebays using AI to help you shop or similar looking items. I keep hearing this a I pursue made an announcement yesterday about AI too. But when you're shopping, you probably general look in mind, but basically ebays using a civil logarithms I was looking for some shoes. And they say if you look for sprinting type shoes are going to suggest some other shoes that are similarly looking in maybe cheaper. So that's kind of a cool feature. These dogs are going crazy, right? The big news is going to talk to you about the beginning of the show. Vries's launch a free service spread benefiting in blocking spam calls. Part of the features are free. Some of the features cost to ninety nine a month. I immediately signed up for the two ninety nine plan the free gives you spam detection spam filter and report numbers, the call filter offers caller ID personal spam. Lewis personal block list risk meter and spam look up this app. I immediately downloaded I'll be letting you know, how it works. It's called Reisen call filter. And this to me is fantastic. Before he phone even rings, it will verify that 'cause actually coming from the number. It's posing as assistance designed to prevent spammers from spoofing your local area code to make seem like a call might meal legitimate. This is all happened to it. So very very exciting. It's available now. I downloaded it. I mean mmediately went premium just because they've had so much trouble. Personally. Can't I'll let you know next week how it's gone consumer spending an APs to reach hundred fifty six billion across IOS and Google play by twenty twenty three. Annual spending this insane. One hundred fifty six billion dollars. Two thousand eighteen I think it's what is it. Fifty fifty seven sixty two billion. That's a huge increase sixteen point eight percent growth year over year. Amazing. Let Americans even going to be bigger. Bigger growth rates, not as much spin. But bigger growth rates. Big win here. Tonight. Leap Email review reviews. Facebook's intense internal discussion over Alex Jones, anti semitism post on Instagram, and they're looking to ban him. So here we go. The next hammer is about to drop on Alex Jones. He's got no place to go. But his website soon. And they're discussing labeling him as a hate figure. This came from the business insider show. Wow. Can you imagine being labeled a hate figure? Talk about a business boy to have your business his business. I already ruined. But he knew imagine. I couldn't even imagine being he, oh, we're going to start labeling people's I guess we label people's terrorist. Right. So a hate figure we have. We have labels for us. Now what happens when you become listed as a hate figured you not able to get on airplanes. No. You know, do they, you know, you you shunned in public or you know, what happens there near labeled a hate figure. Knits new right? Labeling people like that. I guess not. They people have been labeled suffer years, but that's a new one on me. Goo Google, Cuba. Deal could bring faster internet to Cuba goose sign a memorandum with Cuba's telecom monopoly, E T, E C essay to create a cost free connection between the two networks doing. So it will boost to Cuba's internet speeds. But this peering room. It comes with a catch Cuba. Will I need to saw new underseas fiber optic cable? Visit connect it's network with a Google point of presence. And that could take years. So were they after run that to Miami or something? Yeah, I'm sure with them. Sure. That's going to happen right away. So interesting article tonight are we really in a new space race with China and Russia. Are we? Nobody think we want to explore don't we? You know, I think Russian Chinese we worked we've worked with Russia at national space station cooperated for science. Chinese not so much. But then mystery she thinks we're in a space race today. Just like we were in the sixties, and the stakes are even higher which might be true space space weapons could be very very bad. Space weapons can do him massive amounts of damage because of terminal velocities? They can build up on small objects. If you've read any Sifi magazines, all you gotta do is accelerate Iraq too, high enough speed and let it survive reentry. And you know, it has explosive power and hits the ground of a nuclear weapon. Are we there yet? No. But very well could be soon. All right. Let me see if I've got any. I know I got some no got an Email from from Jack. Let me find this. He he created up when I. I think he sent me to emails. He did. My supposed to read this. Yes. So talks about using my trust that I currently have for lighting cameras and make it mobile that was I didn't think about using the trust Jack. So that was actually a really good idea. And so I won't give away too much of his ideas because I want everyone else to to to kind of weigh in here to using some raspberry pies for some stop, I think that would be cool to and, you know, eight Jack, you've if you want, you know, as we get ready to to put some stuff in place if you want to come out to Michigan for few days. We'll put you up in the in the in the villa? In a feed ya and should be fun. My ass wants to come out and help let me know, you know, should be should be good time. And we can have all kinds of creative ideas. We can have a party at the the new a new studio. But yes, Jack, I'll we're going to get some measurements. And that's too key in so see the layout of this place, a draw in basic, I'd do an autocrat of how the space is currently laid out, and we can can play with the design because I think I'm going to be okay too. I don't know if I can bust walls out, but I think I can bus partitions out. So we have to clear that with with my sister. But I think is good because she owns a building. All right. Also, he forgot to paste a link to a piece of a product. Oh, talk about this simulator. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's kinda cool. I need to read up on that more. And also we talked about the seven thirty sevens. Hey, the fundamental we you know, we talked about the thirty seven max, but Jack says the fundamental 737 max problem is uncommanded stabiliser trim movement. Or in this case automated movement that is hazard to safe light every Boeing aircraft for the past six years has a procedure to follow for this potentially fatal problem called runaway. Stabiliser trim the merchants procedure has one step turn off stabiliser trim by think, I even know that myself. In the switches are easy to reach on the center. Pedestal reports of this happening on previous fights with both lion air and Ethiopian Ethiopian air, seven thirty seven. Max crash is you know, they're multiple layers of aircraft safety. The pilot is always the final safety system for the aircraft flight. Now, we used to have this saying or not saying in the military. The NATO ops is a sound judgment. Is is basically your sound judgement. Overrides anything that's in this book into book. It's about four inches thick of everything the operational wise of an aircraft year sound judgment it times. There isn't going to be stuff that wasn't covered in the book. So Jack's right. He says the pilots always the final safety system for any aircraft pike and maintenance is second to last reports. The liner crash mentioned up to four previous fights with Iraq pitch control. Why didn't aircraft maintenance ground the aircraft of fix and verify this fault? The pilots seems to figure it out on their other ONA all but the last two on the flight just before the one that crash reports of a jump see piloted enough. I'd the problem had the pilots turn the stabiliser turn off the strip stabiliser trim. They did that landed the aircraft safely. Boeing is the first safety system by its design. In these two aircraft crashes all the layers failed one Boeing designed the MCAS system with number one a single sensor source, even when the second a, oh, a it's the aircraft operation, nor attitude. I think was available on their crap. This design is unusual for Boeing Boeing did not give the pounds a display of the eight oh a sensor, so the pilot could not check it before. Or during the flight third. Boeing assume that this MCAS system would be triggered once and solve the problems on inexperienced pilot getting too slow. That's what happens when aircraft stall you get too slow for your angle of attack pushed the nose over it lousy aircraft to speed up. Basically, the aircraft recovers doesn't stall and fall of sky. I'm Ed living for Jack with they never considered was a system could be triggered multiple times. The FAA did not verify Boeing's M'S of number two. This is how the layers failed the FAA did not verify Boeing's MCA CAS design, which was able to move a flight control service without pilots. Knowing of thirty big big. No, no. I haven't been involved in modifying aircraft systems were system took over the actual autopilot and drove the airplane, huge huge tests. We had to do to make sure that that system would not flip the airplane over literally a tons and tons of tests and verifications that the system stayed within its operational parameters. So anything that moves ca flight control service without the pilots. Explicit permission is bad. Number three beat the open in liner maintenance, failed to correct the problem, which should have included verifying the solution. They failed multiple times. Number four, the pilots on the fatal crash build a dentistry, the problem and take. Rectal action. He goes on to say the Philly was poor designing training from Boeing poor training from both mechanics pilot's lack of experience reports of at least five erratic. Pitch problems on user crap did not result in a crash. Nobody is asked why there were no seven thirty seven. Max ex mex- accents in the USA, Canada or Europe, highly experienced pilots and mechanics correctly, dentist biding corrected. Those problems the seven thirty seven max is safe to fly Boeings designed did not give some pilots enough information to dentistry. The problem aircraft must be properly maintained and float in these two accents every layer of the aviation safety net diamond failed the PA the flying public your produced her captain Jack in for those. You don't know Jack was a basically qualified I think to fly any aircraft in the seven thirty every aircraft in American Airlines fleet. He was at one time the senior captain at American. That's how we have. Have a series thirty on this show. Tell us how it is in. You know, I just. There is a huge, and it's going to get worse. Huge shortage of pilots in the United States globally. There's a huge shortage. So what you're going to start seeing is pilots with fewer and fewer hours in the cockpit. Moving up, and we're as is the general public. We're going to have to pay attention to this. It's very expensive to get your butt in a seat and get the required hours to be the point where you're safe to fly multi engine aircraft with patterns on boards big deal big deal. And with the massive shortage pilots are coming to bear in the United States and across the world some companies, and I'm not saying these two companies did so, but it appeared to me at least based on what I've read was that these pilots had like way few hours in this. Sophisticate of aircraft. You got pilots that are leaving the air force and the navy that have two three thousand hours and multi engine or maybe more maybe five thousand hours and multi engine aircraft. They have seen almost everything. And yet they go into the training systems with the airlines go through and get qualified get checked out. Those are the guys I wanna fly with those guys. I did fly with for twenty five years. You know, and every once in a while. Yeah. You had a rookie pilot, but he was paired with a experienced pilot. And you know, there was a, you know, a little backslapping going on or whatever, you know, and people learned and, but we'll see we'll see what happens if you're le'ts young these old probably get two thumbs up. But if you're pilots young, you know, give them a look. All right. We're going to wrap things up here. He's to barking dogs are driving me nuts, Jack. Thanks for input. Definitely preciado. It. Think I should get. My pilot's license. Jack got a whole bunch a whole bunch like at a kind of a whole bunch of money to spend from my GI, Bill forty grand. I don't know. I'm thinking about it. When he something to do. But how no fifty five, you know, in ninety fun. But I if I do, and I'm going to go multi-engine, I don't wanna just sputter around in assessment. Because I don't trust them. You know, one engine to me is like not so good, two engines, I you know, you still lamp so thinking about thinking about maybe maybe can trying to spend money and get a multi engine and not going to. I don't want to buy an airplane though. So maybe I'm wasting my money. I don't know sits thought he fund got to spend the money somewhere because I earned it. So I put it to us at some point or so let's get out of here. Geek dues at gmaiLcom. Geek news, Jima dot com. It's been my pleasure bringing you the show thanks for being here. Thanks for being part of the Ohana being part of the family. Don't forget about our sponsors at go. Daddy game center dot com for chest. Go daddy. Get new center dot com for slash insiders. Your place to come in and provide. If you feel I deserve to five ten. In fifteen twenty or twenty five dollars a month contribution to the show. Two bucks. A day equals six point seven cents. Two bucks. An demont equals six point seven cents a day approximately. So anyway, thanks, everyone for being here will see the next time on the eaten central podcasts. Everyone take care of low.
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We kick off this morning with five, hundred, seventy, five, thousand, five, hundred, and thirty likes five, thousand, five, hundred, sixty, one follows and don't forget to turn your clocks back when you go to bed tonight. You don't WanNa. Be Sitting in Church and our early tomorrow morning. So what it is, it s or doesn't have s which one. What's that? Savings. It's actually daylight saving with no s but who cares people say savings time It it's one of those things that you could. You know play with the semantics. All you want but daylight savings time daylight saving time is the correct. Term but it ends tonight. So it doesn't matter, turn your clock back question you know. He's got one. Clock. Radios with a little digits flip over rather than being digital and that was brand new anyway. I told how toll free numbers, eight, hundred, three, five, five, three, five, nine, seven, and of course We had a heck of a hurricane come through here in Alabama it started off in New Orleans Paul folks can't buy a break and There's been a lot of damage. At home and Alabama we without power from three o'clock Thursday morning. So yesterday, late morning. Now running up generators and. You know. We have a well so I had to get a generator and high of wire to the well, no hot water. I didn't have enough wattage have a bunch of refrigerators and freezers. and. So it was interesting but. And I know Sam. You had some damage at the Lake House but a lot of people don't have homes anymore. They're still thousands of people without power and in some of these places, it's going to be days before they get power back in the crews are working hard but this was a devastating storm. Yeah I know what's crazy is my neighbors have power. We're on the end of the street and our particular house me and the neighbor next door to me doesn't have power and But let that the crazy part was watching the big giant tree fall and I knew that when Sun came up to be some damage and they did it crush the backyard fence. but it's all get taken care of eventually I'm still without power plan on having some time by twenty twenty one, we'll see what happens. As Long. As long as you healthy and safe. and. You gotTA home everybody. That's that's more than most people can say we had toll free at eight, hundred, three, five, five, three, five, nine, seven, chester do we have John From Canyon City listening to us on Kiro? Is he on the line? Yes I am. Hey John. Good Morning. Welcome to the show warning salmon. Are you good? How are you? How are you? I'm in my actually my studios in Mount Chehaa. The not the normal. Location that I use has no power no internet none of that stuff. So We May. We may be a little scratchy come and tell you but you know when making equipment work. So let's Fifty one willies, jeep. What's the story? Okay Sandwich one. We used to take L. Hunting all the time and it could tell some stories. Let me tell you but It's my dad's jeep and. His health went bad and it's He finally passed away and it's been sitting there for probably hadn't been started for like ten years. Anyway I brought it home and I want wanting to restore it. I'm trying to get it started I changed. Put New prestone and change the oil filter and drained all the oil gap old gas out and put new gas in and Put a little starting fluid and sprayed little starting in the intake and it's turning over. But once it burns the starting fluid out it's dying I just didn't want to push anything too far. I talk to you and maybe got some tips on getting that things started when it's been sitting so long. Well you've already fired it on starting. So Preventing. A dry starts too late. Now I wanNA tell you to put some oil in the several dozen, spin it through and so on but. Pretty rugged little machines I mean you know? They, are building these. In. The forties and they're good little engine. So what do you want to do is? It sounds like you got a fuel delivery problem. I have some. Debris. In the fuel line. There's a couple of easy ways to troubleshoot this. One thing I would do is take the fuel line going from the fuel pump to the carburetor. Put it in a container, spin the engine see if it's pumping any fuel. If, it's not. Then what you WANNA. Do Disconnect. The fuel line coming on the chassis from the tank to the pump. and. You might take a little compressed and not a lot and going to go to the gas filler. Put a little compression down in there and see if you can blow any debris out of the line if fueled out of there then that tells you the lines clear. Then you probably have a bad fuel pump. As long as it's been sitting and I was wondering about that, maybe some debris in the fuel tank. But what about the carburetor? Well if it runs on the starting fluid. In first thing to do. Is Not going to work unless you get fuel to it. you know what I've done. I have taken some all military vehicles. John that wouldn't run. And I took A. Little plastic gas tank, and you can use a two and a half gallon to gallon plastic gas can. Put a hose in it. And I Hang it up high take I'm sure you garage by the way. What's up? The jeep inside garage. No, it's not. It's out of my driveway. Okay. If there's some way, we can take a gas can and you know maybe just strap it on top of the windshield. So it's above the carburetor and run a line from that gas can plastic gas tank down through the carburetor to the intake. And then if it'll run a run on that, then it'll tell you the carburetors workin enough to keep the jeep run in any way that made me the carburetor may need to be overhauled. That's what I that's what I would do. It that runs. Then I know I got the bad fuel pump or I got trashing the tank. If you want to say, yeah, we're GONNA take a break stay right. In the back side. It is fourteen minutes after the hour here at Sam's garage radio show. Joining us on Saturday morning a toll free number eight. Three. Five, five, three, five, nine, seven, we'll be back right after this. Repairing a cooler can be costly and it typically happens to older vehicles that may not be worth. The expensive fix K sale is an alternative a poor in solution designed to stop leaks and help prevent future leaks. Older sealers use sodium silicate, which has tendency to clog the system. Casey peaches ceramic technology that designed to repair the League without clogging case available nationwide at part stores. ADVANCE AUTO PARTS LEARN MORE AT CASE HEAL DOT com don't just seal it K- seal it. 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Mom is told me we need to get out of the House as the foot of nature today come to the forest where the more adventurous you lives check out discover the forest dot org for cool places nearby brought to you by the US Forest Service and the Ad Council. And we are back to work here at SAM's garage nineteen minutes after the hour we're talking to John and Kenyan city Colorado listen to us on a great affiliate K. R. L. N. he's got a fifty one willie J You know you can buy those things were equipped with a Carter Y F carburetor or a Yo carburetor depending on the model it had. You can buy a kit for about forty bucks forty five dollars to rebuild carburetors if you need to. Are you familiar with the Kaiser Willie? GPS. Website. No, but I can. I. Can locate that if I have to soon. One thing I was going to tell you was this. This has the you're familiar with it. I'm sure it has declare fuel filter on it. Right. And there's no gas in that at all. So. Okay. So maybe. It's probably not pulling fuel from the tank. So you take the line from the tank to the pump up. and. If you'll in the tank fuel should come out of that line if it doesn't you either got to plug in plug in the tank. Or it's. Something, in the line. If you get a lot it and most likely the pump has died. It's got a diaphragm at this age in bed sitting the diaphragm the first time to pump operated it probably broke it. If you go to this this website, it's Kaiser Willy's jeep. Okay if you go to Kaiser will. Willy Dot Com. Right. They sell fuel tanks, carburetors, fuel pumps you can buy now they've got these solex replacements and different ones that universal carburetors I wouldn't go with that. I would look at rebuilt. Carter like I said, Hey, you had a car W. O. R. W. A. Yif. Those are single barrel carburetors. You can get a complete rebuild for about three hundred bucks. And you know they got everything you want. They've got all the literature they got gas tanks. and. Yeah that's great. Yeah, you those people restore those things. There's plenty of people. And a new tank depending on what tank it has the steel ones and I would stay away from the plastic ones the stale ones about one hundred and fifty bucks all the way up to four hundred dollars. But anything you need jeep is going to be there. Like I said check to make sure he got fuel coming out of the tank to the pump. If you don't got something going on in the tank, the pump of the the line if he. If you've got fuel come into the pump and none to the carburetor. You got a bad fuel pump. Is Just One island tank we take one gallon fuel tank. For Gas of course, put a hold the bottom with a bulkhead fitting and gravity feel into import input of the carburetor put it on the couch and see if it runs and that rule out one of the other. Right. You could even put down to the input side of the fuel pump. And that would tell you at the pump is working to true so. John Hope that. All right. Thanks a lot. Doc. I will. Much. By jokes. Happy. Halloween again. So all right, it's time to do a good year break bundle giveaway. We've had this on Sam's garage radio. Show facebook page. We've you know asking people to write in and we've had several entries in Tell us this is a frontline worker. That's working hard for this pandemic and we asked to recommend that. We've gone through them and we one of our first ones, which is great. One Gal name Anita in Florida. Excuse me she recommended her husband who is a Truck driver has worked tirelessly through the pandemic and delivering a lot of stuff that we need. Driven as much as the dot will allow them to do. So we selected Anita we had chester caller on the line. So we have our on there and eat a good morning good morning. It's good to hear from you I'm glad. That, you wrote such a great thing about your husband. We've selected you and your husband to win the goodyear break bundle from our partners at goodyear and that's calipers and rotors and pads and. So, congratulations congratulations. Thank you sir, on the job. Well, we appreciate your husband because when the store shelves are empty, people get angry and as you know what the pandemic goes. Santa rare ugly head again and I just watched on the news last night the national news that they were talking about people are starting to hoard. Again, you know buying food and ahead of this election. So You know the truck drivers keep us all stock. If you've got it on your table if you're touching it, you're eating it. You're drinking it. No matter where it came from a truck driver delivered it so Good for him and good view. Now, we're going to need some information. and. I think you told me he's got a twenty fifteen Chevrolet Silverado it's a twenty five hundred dollar, Max? So what I'll do is I'll put you on hold. We'll have Preston, take all your information. If you have the Vin number that would be a big help. and. Then we'll send that to goodyear breaks. They will fulfill the order and send it to you and I know that you told me your husband likes the tinker. He'll. He'll put it on himself and that would be great. You made my day. Well. Thank you so much for listening to this garage radio show and participating on our facebook page and and. Put on hold congratulations again and. Keep US posted and I'm glad you husbands. BREAKS REG truck. You Welcome. Don't forget to turn your clocks back. alrighty. Well Salmon. Twenty Fifteen Silverado. With a door. Max. If he had by calipers and rotors and pads for that'd be pretty expensive. We IT'D BE A. Easy five hundred dollars if not more. Oh easy. So that's good and he you know he's a truck driver and working hard delivering stuff and. my conversation with her. With. Anita was that you've been delivering. A lot for the target stores. Evidently. They got a contract with the brokers that do target. He'd been Holland bottled water and stuff like that and I know He. Has Been running between Dublin Georgia. Concord North Carolina. Carolina Portland Tennessee Talla pusher. Roanoke Alabama. He'd been doing some serious driving. And Keeping employees on the books he's. Is, doing a good job as a father SORTA. So that's good. Yeah. The trucking industry is big deal this country and I'm think of all the people that. It employs at at the warehouses in the dockworkers and the. Truck stops. These guys live truckstop. Don't get a shower there when you're on the road for a couple of days and you got food and get feel and if you've been to some of the big truck stops and they. The shopping is incredible. Yeah. You can do a lot of shower there. You can hang out there. It's amazing what they have in these truck stops and they keep it. Cycled keep a refresh the inventories always being It's always fresh because so many people go in there and buy everything at school. Okay I want to mention that we have a friend that lives in Minnesota. As a great guy name is Terry Hans Meyer. And he's big motorcycle enthusiasts. And it looks like he's in a wheelchair. You know he was a goal wing writer for years. And they're having a thing of Orange County choppers. That There's a group that says given away a custom motorcycle. It was built by Orange County choppers. and. You can go in and vote for Terry. And it's a dream chopper DOT COM one word dream chopper dot. com. And I went in this morning, I gave him ten votes. He's number one. He could win this thing. So. Listened to. Our show. So, if you'd go to dream chopper DOT COM and vote for Terry Terry Hands Meyer. And that would be great. He deserves it and it'd be a great Christmas present and Christmas is right around the corner. 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I'm GonNa let Sam Talk to you because he's the Toyota specialist and he knows those things inside out and backwards and you gotta quite an array from Camry Corolla to a pickup truck but. You can go wrong with the truck I'll I'll let Sam tell you that. Okay. So well. How are you? It's been a long time happy Halloween. I'm. GonNa have to get you put me on hold later on give me give me an address where I can get in touch with you near. Thank to send you presents man you're awesome. Absolutely I'll do that for sure Okay. So first choice I would do would be the Toyota. Tacoma. If you can afford it and I would say that does the resale value number one tacoma's or holding them like crazy number twos cheap to kind of take that back and forth from each other the wrangler But a coma will give you the versatility reliability and everything, but also give you the resale value. He'll be that if you decided to sell them two or three years for some reason, you wouldn't lose any money on that. Second Choice The camera twenty, sixteen camera just because it's bigger than Corolla Corollas Kinda small fee I. Think The camera will be nice. Good car the twenty six, th got no bugs no oil survey of Asian or consumption problems. So that would be a good choice those first two. Okay that answers that question I can justified and all just thought maybe the twenty thirteen it was high, and maybe if I should get the newer one, twenty, nineteen or twenty seventy by the way how about those cvt transmissions they in those coma trucks now or not the because the coma truck regular transmission, the cvt mainly in the four cylinder camry but not the V six. Okay but not to be six but you think the four. Cylinder. Camry. Got In there actually go with that is. Of course came as a great car not another great cars four cylinder Honda Accord. Okay. Okay. well, that answers my question, all I need to do now. In address where I can send you all my. Presence and find out how to get there from Thanksgiving dinner since Y'all moved away and didn't want to come or. It was. Doing. Very, well, very well, still working forty something years the same place and all that, and he's doing great and all that and We just had a tragedy in family not too long ago, but that's side point. Everything's working good and we mission everything and I tried to go by shopping and found out you weren't there anymore. So I'm trying to find out where he at and everything. So I can get in touch with you know. have give your information to actually your has your phone number changed. no. uh-huh. Same I think your phone number I'll give you a call. Me Calm give me an edmonds something. We can get get in touch and all that and take care daddy finally there know make sure he stays out of trouble. Getting tough. You know he's getting older now. So it's more like trying to chase after a child. Oh, my God. You know while if you WANNA come to Alabama we're GonNa have stepped on Manila for Thanksgiving with a possum dressing it's really good stuff. I'm looking at fingers. Now I'm telling you I can't hardly wait the little cornbread. there. We we guy crackling Conrad. We got the whole thing. So we not eat here in Alabama and fresh because we get it the night before. All let me find my pants and I'm on my way. All right buddy. Take. Thanks for the phone call. Let's see. It is thirty eight minutes after the. Hour. Let's go to Iowa and talk to Harry who's got a comment on a fifty one on that fifty one Willie Job Harry, good morning welcome to the show. Good Morning Good Morning I. I don't know if I can follow that AC. But But I I was working on an old jeep like that from my friend had the same exact problem nothing happening no no feeling the carburetor. And the Fuel pump is expensive and hard to get so. I thought I look in this in the field pump. And You know, and maybe you know check the diaphragm. Maybe that's what usually goes. Wrong right Right. So. So I started unscrew the the part where the diaphragm was. And screws were loose. They were took any intake any effort to to take them out. So I decided just tighten it up but reinstalled it. And we're fine ever since we're in. Britain fine. And it was about the same vintage an early fifties jeep four-cylinder. Great Well, you know late I don't know what he had I will. I would looking when I was talking to him on this site that sells parts they got jazz kitson. They got the pope gasket. They got the screwed that got the filter assembly but I didn't see. Any diaphragms for the fuel pump Oh. They do have a rebuilt kit for fifty bucks. It's got everything you need for the fuel pump and that's a great tip. You could probably because those pumps went laminated, they were screwed together. That back in the day when they were real mechanics and people fix stuff. Now, they just plug on a scan tool and do a little programming tuning and they think they mechanics but you know. That's a great point. Thank you so much. there's even though they have a they actually had a PC system. That just a road draft to, but there's a ventilator baffles in that they actually make that replacement ventilator baffle. Let's like little cone. So that they can breed and those get stuffed up with vapors and Kabanov you know. No I I didn't didn't know that. Yahweh California's got California smog license from back when. I heard. Yeah in the seventies and I. Learned about the draft tubes, but it didn't know they had thousand there. In fact, some of those fuel pumps actually had. An opening for a primer handle, you can put the handle in and pump it. You actually could manually pump the fuel pump. Primer like you have on your on a diesel or whatever. So they actually had military pump primer handle. And it's fits the fifty to sixty two. GBS. And these people have it they've got everything. He needs they got all the. That PCV line, they actually have a PCP control valve to and there's a line and it depends on the year and the making the model but they shall all those parts they got the valve they'll dollar still line, which is preformed. It goes to the side cover. they all too many fittings. Or? Any if you go. If you go to. You have Internet you go to Willie's cotton. Excuse me Kaiser. K. A.. Kaiser Willy's Jeep Dot Com. Okay. I can give you a phone number if you've got something right with. no, they won't be necessary I can look it up. In Craig they got they've got everything. You know you can buy body parts you can buy cooling system parts you can buy the decal these people that make all this stuff to Restore the Jeevan have a thing where they have used parts. Well. My my my friend is too cheap to to buy anything to restore is g he just wants to keep it running. Barely. Let. crepet antiques. Have, I've got a few myself including myself when I wake up in the morning you know and there's so much. Noise is just get out of bed. I can't believe I'm saying what does all this noise? Breaking you know. But I'm glad to be able to get up and see the green side of the grass and I'm thankful for that. So. Anyway. Thank you so much phone call and you have a great weekend and enjoy yourself. Okay. Thank you. Job. Willies, are. Popular when I go to the jeep shows, they're a group them. So old guys go around to these shows with all the willies setup and it's very cool to see. I was in Panama City. I saw one a navy colors. I hadn't seen one before in real life. We're GONNA take a break here. It's forty three minutes. After the hour you're listening to Sam's Roz at San Mateo and San Mondavi. Toll Free Eight, hundred, three, five, five, three, five, nine, seven. We'll be back right after this. Don't you dare go away. 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So we figured we could take little money into it but. So the first thing we got is if you let the except for more than a day. It won't start. And it's just there's a current drain somewhere and we're trying to figure out what's the best way to find were that her brain is Okay. It'll be done. Have you done anything to it's got to batteries right? Yes it does. No we haven't done anything yet decided we did new batteries on us to make sure that I just want some batteries. And we put a Battery tender on him. So we don't ruin them batteries until we figure out where it has but the guy start pulling. Certain fuses out and then let a overnight and the that. Circuit would be where the the current drain would be or you have another avenue that a guy she try. Well. How I how I would do this I would disconnect one of the batteries just take the negative tram lop the battery. And you should still have enough current from. The second battery. To know if you turn the key on Israel, a light, the lights and that kind of stuff I wouldn't try to it. And then take. Turnkey off. Take the ground wire off the second battery. And if you've got a good own meter, a volt meter Scale. Put between the Battery Post and the cable. And you should see if you see any million draw that tells you something is is drawing. A test light works good. You know the light lights. That means. Is the differential. So then you can stop by pulling the fuses one at a time. If you pull a fuse in the test, like goes out of the media drops off. then. That's the circuit that the current drawers on. Then you gotta get a you know you're going to have to have a wiring diagram to figure out what's on that circuit. Now, the fused a owners manual in the box might have some description, but they're usually pretty limited. So what do you think sam? if there is no accessories. I'm you said that this thing will drain it overnight Well. It does in the colder weather. But in the warmer weather, you know it'll it'll get for a couple of days and it'll be fine but then the cold weather. Just overnight was on. Okay. I assume that the battery and the battery cables are all good fresh have been tested to be good. Yes okay and other any aftermarket accessories in the trump. No no other than breaking shoulder. Okay. So the first thing I would do because that's a pretty big heavy draw is disconnected heavy wire on the starter one day and or the alternator one day. Okay. If you if you could do a battery drain test but that's a pretty heavy drug considering you have no accessories door no aftermarket parts even if you don't mind on with two batteries take at. least a week for it to to go down four to kill two batteries in a day or two or let's say even three that's pretty quick. So I would go to the heavy battery stuff I which is the starter in the alternator start their removed just a heavy wire off of it, tape it up make sure it's not, GonNa arc on anything and let the truck sit. With those two items, I and see if. See what happens and then after that, you can do a battery drug test. What about the glow plug? Then it would. Be Drawn draw on the colts low plug getting. Without the. Has A. Controller, and that group controller would be turned off with the key off. In theory, you know what I mean I'm you even try one controller but usually that that primary ignition when you turn that off its turns off. Yeah we were just can you know what items on there have the most current draw, and that was one of those items that would hold the most draw it'd be losing that in an overnight situation i. Well, I would start with disconnected. Things that you could do when you disconnect. The batteries and have the test of the volt meter between them. has pulled a wire, the state of feed. Of Tobacco The alternator? That'll put the alternated asleep got a bad diode alternated. It doesn't show up in the charging circuit and that can happen. It's a light goes out. Then you go to bed rectify a bridge in the alternator. which is the dial pack. But again would stop you know Sam asked a question. If it was any additional stuff put on the truck, you know any accessories. Those are the things that will normally do it and he just unplugging things. Until the light goes out. And find the circuit. It's. Bad, you know. and this can be the reason it was at the auction. Somebody couldn't find the common draw. Exactly. Right. Well. That's what the manufacturing company in town here and they used the trust on a daily basis in. So it never was the problem, but when they leave it this over the weekend. That's when they always had jump that. Started on. Monday morning. Right and then. So. that. They knew the problems they're. Facing the sectors. Of that, it was that it was gonNA door panel what hey I talked to the guy that role with on a daily basis. and. He said that they had tried to find it and they thought it was in the door panel. For the wire loom comes to the door panel from opening and closing the door. But I, we check that out and we didn't see any any player wires or anything that. Stood out. Right. Well it doesn't have power windows so I. Wasn't. There should be easy. Find it should it should be. Easy because like you said, there's no accessories no power windows. There's nothing to plain Jane. Deal you. Schmeltzer. USA test later, vote me to do a battery drug test and then do what I suggest to with the with the starter in the alternator and you'll find your draw. Just. Wanting. Here's a couple of things to look at Brian. I. May Have. A light under the hood when you open the hood and you play with the battery, don't forget the disconnect that like that'll shell. Contra. And Weird Weird things happen if the Sun visor fancy destruc- is it's a five fifty was probably a cab and chassis that what it was. Yep. Okay. Look look good at all the travel connect wires. That kind of stuff because that's that's a so us where things get corroded and go bad and short out and someone. The other thing is if it has vanity mirrors on the the sun visors. Make sure they go out when the Sun visor goes up. Make sure that the glove compartment light is out and that's that's pretty tough to do because you open the glove compartment and the light comes on if it's got a light. And I haven't seen lights on a long time. I don't know if they still putting them in these these diesel trucks but I, I would snatch the ball bottle that and see that. That takes care of it. But you know Portugal dead and a couple of days. 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We have the Korean version of this and he loves using it. So hopefully your boys will annoy you. I'm mean enjoyed with you. Get ready for this you baby shark. which immediately in Washington? DC conjures up the baseball team. The nationals the lead story on sports today are in sports. Today is Anthony. Random goes west He leaves the nats. He signs for seven years in two hundred forty five million dollars with the angels. That is thirty five million dollars. A yeah the same that Stephen Strasburg got from this particular team than the nationals. And let me say my first reaction is this. You did not stay in the National League. Can you did not stay in the area. God bless you you know you WANNA go Anthony Rendering you wanna play with Mike Trout. You WanNa enjoy southern California you on the East Coast you the west coast. That's fine. The angels need pitching the angels. have their last year as a team was five point one two. That's it's worse than the nationals their starters and that's what they need that's why they wanted Garrett Cole the era their starters was five point six four that was twenty any ninth of thirty teams and they were thirtieth of thirty teams in the lowest amount of innings pitched by their starters. So you can assemble. Anthony Brendan and you can put them with my trout and you can put them and you may be forgotten this which Shohei Otani you can do all those things and our pool. Yeah well I mean but he the team Marcus of Albert loopholes. But YOU'RE GONNA have to get pitching. So let's let's sort of look at this from from the overview now and this says not Bryce Harper go to Philadelphia. I don't think anybody Anthony. Ren Doan begrudges Anthony. Rendong had in his contract year a spectacular tackler year. He was clutch as anybody in baseball. Everybody was thrilled when Anthony Ran. Don't came up and he's a really good fielder he's right right there with Nolan Aeronautical as third. Beijing's right there. You waited a long time to go where you WanNa go and get what you want to get and if this is it fine. The nats assemble their team differently in the last two years the NAT spent a lot of money on starting pitchers Patrick Corbin. They spent a lot of money on not as much as they spend on. Max Scherzer but in the same general area they went and got a starting pitcher. The re signed starting pitcher in Stephen Strasburg their position the way they formulated team. And it's hard to argue now. The way they formulate a team is give us starting pitching if we get to the playoffs and we have starting pitching we can win. They had not accomplished that before but they accomplished it this year and they won the world series. The problem they've got I mean I actually do think they have a problem in perception because two years in ro their biggest hitter their biggest hitter has left. I do think that's a problem. But if you look at it. Bryce Harper when you have one Soto Invicta Robe lace and Adam Adam Eaton. Bryce Harper was not particular. I'm not going to be a fool here. Because he's price great player. He was not particularly missed. They were able to survive. And even thrive without route him. The difference now and then we open this up to people sitting here the difference now is they have one infielder one trae turner owner. They have part time people at Second. They have part time people at first and ain't got nothing at the moment at thirty. So maybe they get Donaldson Josh Donaldson. Maybe they get Kris. Bryant maybe Carter key boom placed. I I like. I don't know but they were. They were filled old in the outfield. They got nothing in the infield now and they gotta do something go Not even slightly angry Anthony Reimburse things I I completely agree with you on wishing anthony random. The best couldn't have gone further away literally figured always further place. The Nets had offered rundown. I believe seven years. Two hundred ten million dollars is that correct. Yeah so Thirty five million dollars over seven hundred significant cricket money. No no I well you know what about the home town discount. no-one begrudges him. That as far as I mean I can't offer any any the hot. Take to disagree with what you said. bryce Harper while an excellent player wasn't leaving the covered bear. That's took you now. Have a a a huge hole in the infield that needs to be filled and it seems very interesting to me. How just sort of dismissively a the reporting is oh? Well they'll just go get donaldson of Ryan. I mean those guys aren't gonNA come cheap necessarily And I'm very interested to see what the team well Kris. Bryant may have two years left on his contract or may have one depending on arbitration. That's right I don't know but will come with a PRI- I mean as a train about is got I know that the agents but key boom is he. Boom is the big piece of the the what I have seen of the Chris. Branco which I I mean. I guess the theory is they. They're not going to pay Bryant when he becomes the cubs not pay him so get something for him but it is not what I would expect her. I maybe Chris I- overrated Kris Bryant when I mean he's a seems like a great credentials that Bryce Harper had right he's an MVP. Hey come on Played on a world series champion. We nuts I mean. He's not he's not some guy so that he doesn't credentials. Harper has way more credentials. The and and what's I mean unless your goal is to make a one or two year run with him. I mean you trade for Bryant. You'RE GONNA tear it up and sign 'em right. I mean back to the larger view of how the nats are constructed to win now which is through starting pitching and has been in this iteration of the team when you're able to draft Strasbourg. And then you make the monster deal for Scherzer and then what happens with Corbin that's to maximize winning. Now you can still fill in some pieces around. It's going to be incredibly difficult to fill it whole at third but I have to respect act with the angels are doing which is hearing the criticism about wasting trump best player out of a generation ever gets to the plan. You have to take a look at that division and you take a look at what Houston has done but then you also take a look at how Oakland has had the success of getting in and what the nats have shown and what really the giants have shown and now the two team wildcard is. If you get in you can make noise and obviously that that definitely needs starting pitching but starting pitching something that you can start to assemble in in season so maybe the addition of Ren dawn wakes up who holds it resonates with trout and all of a sudden your inner division racing. You can start to make some of those moves. I very much appreciate that. This comes before the Christmas holiday. This is something that let's all teams move on. It's not dragging on and it's not Bryce Harper the moves as you guys say moves to the best place and unlike the nets. If you don't necessarily want to play for seven years as a position third base player you you can age in place in the American though if if if you're an angel fan two weeks ago if you want not that that it's a zero sum game necessarily but if you want Garrett Colour you on Anthony Rondonia you gotTA team giving up five point one a game and it seems like well. I didn't plan to fix it as okay. Well let's score five points well but I think once I don't wizards it's not an accident. That when they lose out on Garrett Cole they originally Cohen always get random because I mean Garrett Cole season before the season will start before the season started with coal the assumption was the angels. Because he's from there Newport beach so in went ucla. And and so I think losing on him. You've got him do something within twenty four for your fan base and for trump did thing I'd say is how important context is for me. At least when we lost Bryce last year I I and then went on to win the world series as it is now. I think you have to give Rizzo in the learners. Some leeway in terms of saying we are are making the best decision for the team. We Love Rendong. We wish he stayed. But we had that we went through this whole rigmarole with Bryce and look how that turned turned out. I'm not talking necessarily about braces season but the the realities of the marketplace now are such that same reason. The Red Sox aren't going to be able to keep Mukhi bets. Same reason they aren't GonNa McKee Keep Kris Bryant. It's very you. It's not a both end at the cost of winter or right. It's an either or you see this football all the time you have to reward the the people who helped you win and that the price of that is you can't sign enough people to get on on the field to protect the people just paid a lot of and worth pointing Out while the contracts are the same top line according to Mark Fine San of MLB dotcoms reporting no deferred money the random. DNC's what he wanted right right and a bunch already Merano. That's what I'm that's what the national student there. There's so much money in the Sherzer deal to all right in other nats news by the way in sort of nats alumni news. Tanner roark who I liked. GOES TO TORONTO FOR TWO YEARS and Blake training who I it could not stand great stuff star. Dr Dot Com. You're trying you'll want to have them executed at some point it so no I mean. Don't think again belt yesterday. Signed Strasbourg and you had mark mark. Lerner saying we're not sending both of them just in the same way. He's he's when he talked listened because remember he said with Harper last year. Like this is kind of what we've we put we put but the offer for that. We put forward bryce leaves. He said and there wasn't follow up five days ago. You know I mean like we can't sign the bowl. They signed Strasbourg. You kind of felt like they signed Strasbourg because the way they as Michelson yeah the way they look at a baseball team the most important thing for them is starting pitching and it's a hard. It's very hard to argue with that. Yes 'cause if you are a playoff team look at the numbers. Strasbourg has put up in playoff appearances. They are spectacular. 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This is again darryl ruled. Venable Song is called rolling on. He plays chuck. Todd let a very good week last week. Chuck was five and two and started out with the Thursday night game very strong long as he picked Chicago. Chuck I think was the only person who will counting people and Simians the only person for for simeone to on a regular basis. Who had the New England game right? who had enough stones to realize a new England is in any good right now? So congratulations to chuck at five to fifty one forty seven one which we believe is second Carville at the moment and added Jeff Marek in terms of percentage everybody that's competing eating have opposable thumbs monkey allowing Carville may at some point have lost a thumb and put in a toe and we don't yeah we don't know that all right so here we go. Your first game involves the first game last week as well Chicago. This is not the Thursday night game. Chicago is at Green Mbaye. Chicago was plus four and a half at Green Bay. Green Bay beat the Redskins last week. I wouldn't say was convincing but it was enough that it didn't really matter to green. Ah If you like Chicago in Green Bay you get four and a half a county not to blow smoke like you called the Green Bay Redskin game exactly correctly. Thank so you said they don't blow anybody toy with them and that was exactly how that game went. It basically scored two quick touchdowns today. What are we doing? That's right. They at that point became a cat playing with a mouse. Yeah I love I have to say I love Tony I Love I love your sports book because if I could actually get Chicago at four and a half right now I'd be all over this It's already been down to three. Oh Okay AH getting for the four and a half that Nigel you taking it. I think the bears in the four and a half this is this. Is You know. Green Bay may win by field goal. But Chicago's hot based on all right. Houston is getting three at Tennessee three weeks ago. Four weeks ago five weeks ago Houston than would be giving points at Tennessee because Houston was clearly the better team then. Tennessee switched away from Marcus. Mariota to Ryan Tannehill and everybody already including me said what are you doing. Tannahill is six and one they've got derrick. Henry they look like a playoff team right now. Houston has been good into Shawn Watson and his quite good. The Tennessee looks like a playoff team. Which is why Houston is getting three? We got either way after that epic week of Football Games last week where we had just incredible matchups. This is kind of a pooh-poohed flatter probably the best game of the week. It's good one. Houston Tennessee is probably the most not by one of the two or three most meaningful. But it certainly I. You know this is hard. I think Tennessee's the better team and I think Houston has the better a player I'll go with the hot hand in Tennessee To cover this cover this three but I think this is going to be. This could be a great good. I agree with you. This one might be the best game of the weekend. Denver is at Kansas City. And the record makes this a ten and a half point game. I'm Denver getting ten and a half but drew lock has now played from minute in a have and looks like John Elway. I enjoy it. You Know God only knows how long it lasts just because Daniel Jones looked at good at the beginning of the season but drew lock has changed the perception of cans of Denver there at Kansas City. Kansas City coming out of of obviously a big win Perhaps a letdown. I don't really know you're going to take ten and a half or you like chiefs at home. So I like the chiefs at home and b. e this is locks for starting the road right. Yes Tibet on a quarterback. I rode however ten and a half right that that hook feels like a very dangerous book Give Me Denver and that half point Hook. GimMe Gimme that ten and a half. I hi I'M A. I'm I'd rather have that than lay the point. That ain't easy. Here's a game that I think is pretty tough and I'm I am surprised. I am surprised that the spread in this game buffalo is a good team. I know that they lost at home to Baltimore but they were sure they had the ball for the tying score in the last couple of minutes and just couldn't get it in the end zone. They're getting to at Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh had a great run seven within one run adding Pittsburgh's really good and tremendously surprising but buffalo getting too. I'm a bit surprised at that. How `bout you Yeah listen to this step by the way so the under in the last five years of the NFL because my degenerate gambling newsletter. That I get in the last five years. NFL There's only been three games. Where the over under was priced at thirty six and a half points or less two of them have been by the Buffalo Games dish career? Yeah Buffalo's got under they. Don't just don't score. No that's why Pittsburgh I it's favorite here I'm taking Emma steelers because Because they're at home. That's the only reason I'm doing it but I'll tell you what you really want about here. Is You WANNA bet together. Yeah Yeah this game is going to be you know. Fourteen to ten. Pittsburgh doesn't score either thirteen Pittsburgh starting a guy who's there on Daca caller I learned. Barry is there. We're starting running back. They had nothing. Okay here. Here's a game. That's pretty interesting. Only because the Los Angeles Rams need to win out and Dallas has to find a way to win one game I guess if they beat Philadelphia. I guess that's really all they have to do. The RAMS ARE MINUS ONE AT DALLAS. The Rams M.'s. Put two games together in a row. That were quite good. Dallas stinks. I mean they're just they're no good right now. There's just no good and the rams are only giving one what would you do. Is there a number that the rams win by and this gain were Garret does get fired the no no not because then there's no number number right. It's two games left after this. What is the point? No who who if there was somebody out there that Jerry Jones could have plugged in that he liked heat of don on it. What do we think Lincoln Riley Lincoln Riley or or Urban Meyer? Sure I mean you go after him. Urban Meyer I think we have to I but I don't know this is what I always say. There's a special table that includes only like a handful of people. Pete Carroll Jimmy Johnson right even very switzer get the cable the College Basketball National Title. Yeah you know you would think. Urban Meyer has the ego to say you know what. It's the only way I can catch nick. Sabin Urban Meyer would take the job. The question chuck is would jerry offer the job to somebody where he knows he would have to not be the top dog right. So Yeah Yeah it would be fun to watch the class that he goes Bottom line around. I think this is. This is This is one of those that that one points going to look. Oh okay the Minnesota Vikings go on the road. They go to Los Angeles chargers who finally had a big and decisive win. Last tweak. They don't really have a home field advantage in that soccer stadium wherever that is the best team in the in the league. Okay and they're gonNA play team. It's Minnesota's a playoff team right now. But the rams can catch them. This game wouldn't have anything to do with it. The chargers not the charges largest either the packers or the bears have to beat them for reasons of tiebreaking. But if you like Minnesota you give two and a half on the road. Classic Kirk cousins. Uh Yeah place to bet on US right here laying team with a losing records. GimMe Minnesota Gimme Gimme that defense traveling on the road and they have they. Can't they have to keep up with Chicago. They can't afford to lose. I'd and the last game we give you. We give you the Redskins game when they play Philadelphia's at the Redskins the measure measure of how terrible Philadelphia has been lately. Is there a four and a half point favorite. Th this is. This should be ten if Philadelphia would alpha was what you think they are but what they actually are is Dallas a team that stinks they stink. They needed to go to overtime at home. To beat the giants who are terrible beyond words Philadelphia minus four and a half. I don't know I still think that's up to the line. I know we all like we've nothing in the NFC at the age. But my God. I mean Doug Peterson versus Bill Callahan. That it's selfish man. I'm sorry. Give me the eagles here You know and and the redskins covering two weeks in a row. That's a lot to ask. I think that'd be three in a row actually three covering rela all well. That's like it's like the you know. One game he didn't give me Bella check. It's like you gotta bet on him. This week he doesn't he doesn't cover arena. Rub You know okay. Well Nigel Games and God only knows why. Pick some the games he picks you I'm okay with Renzo. I if all the places that rundown win the angels is fine with me again having said this already you leave. No no no no no no. You're not at the beginning of the show. It's okay if you leave the team and you go as far away as you can physically and you go to another League Godspeed Godspeed John Glenn if you're Bryce Ice Harper and you go up the road no no no no no no no no you spend three months hemming at high right now. So good luck to you anthony. Grondona right totally agree totally great guy. He went exactly he gets to be trout's wing man my God yeah. The numbers ran. Don't put up. Yeah either in front or behind got a pitch to one of them you can't you can't put them both on so believable and we got Chris what are you like Kris Bryant Donaldson or detail. I would rather have Brian. Because I think he's younger. And better than had a great year Donaldson. It's not a great year list. I would take Chris Bryant if you get an advocate Brian. Are you in Wilpon GONNA speak. We'll bond would be infuriated beyond it makes me so happy all the reason why we need to make this happen because he. He's me UNMERCIFULLY. That harper would go to Chicago. And they'll be heartbreaking as it turned out is not heartbreaking it all wherever you 'cause they won the world series anyway. Enjoy the impeachment. It seems like such fun. Maybe I'm the only one WANNA thinks it's bad for the country and everyone else thinks it's just fun Oh dreadful the the tk salute to you brother talk to you. Chuck Todd of meet the press boys and girls and if we just gave you. Chuck Todd as you can see. That would be far and away enough but we give you a monkey who who those zoo ready swaying from the baw. uh-huh regio likes after Chuck. Todd Ma and the cause thank you in other the words through to in his case solid Balu so we do that in honor of Frank Sinatra. Yes who we will Talked talked talked to who we will spotlight on Guy Radio. That would be a big store. Suite Francis Albert Sinatra tentatively booked would have been how old two hundred and four so there we go so by the way just a year older than Kirk Douglas. Who is still signing? Yes he is all right so what happened Nigel. By the way before we get to Reginald's edged picks Want to say thanks to Kelsen. Who Does that grace? Spread Nacho. Rangel Frank Reginald so. I went down to the zoo and it was fascinating. He wasn't in his cage does he really is when I go down there. These days he was at the baseball field that they have up there at the National Zoo baseball field working taking ground balls at thirty. Who is helping him Brooks Robinson and Michael Jack Schmitt so looks like might be an interesting developments over the next day and by the way Scott? Boris his brother Manfred. was there as well so clearly. This is high level. The first game we gave him was Green Bay at home giving four and a half to the Chicago says and Reginald should be very very interesting video of him and I think he's done this event several times but this is the Paris to Dakar Rally do who was driving with them. Aaron Rodgers and Danika Patrick. It's a clearly. He has got strong ties Green Bay area and he will take the packers and lay. The Ford Chuck Liked Chuck. Like the four and a half so much you know because he said it had already been back down to three. I think the packers Kaminsky only be past if a hostage prologue. Trubisky will not be good for very long but yeah we'll see So the next game we gave him was a buffalo at Pittsburgh getting to And this was another fun it was it was. It was like a home movie of him doing that. Polar Bear Arctic plunge in. I'm not sure what river they have up in buffalo the Niagara River okay. It was an must've been the Niagara River. That's the thing that leads into Niagara Falls. Yes I've heard of that lowly MARV levy was with them. Darryl talley and fills mom Very make sense has been so got Norwood in the background. So Ah yes. We'll take buffalo with the two points and of course the last game and gave him with the Redskins at home getting four and a half feels like it should be a lot more. Four hundred does and having watched the Redskins I understand. They have been fairly close in terms of the spread on a few games. Well it's a home game though that hometown down and wannabe marooning yellow green and white or black. Ruining your way. It's going to be a lousy day. Always GonNA raise. Yeah a little bit of wintry mix. Well will he take the Redskins Willie tank. The Eagles turns out. He took a trek up. Mount Kilimanjaro. Along with with Joe Jacobi Richard Pettibone and Dexter Manley. Who ought to know about this four and a half dozen see it just doesn't if the eagles terrible by the way terrible they are very surprising as I go on Seatgeek here you know? We can keep an eye on the on the price ace of redskins tickets. It's it's gotTa be under ten bucks that's gotTa be getting two dollars and fifty cents and you're pretty pretty close to eagles country home game. Oh griot nine bucks. Couldn't get in the building because we really wanted fifty online. I I take that back. You're getting trash trash seats for thirty five. That is almost tha. That's nine times what it's cost for some of the Lesser Games. So I it. It's going to be an eagle. Takeover got a reputation uphold by the way thirty five dollars. Thirty five dollars. You get twenty people into a wizards game midweek get a sweet. Yeah Yeah you gotta get you gotTa flag a T shirt candy. Whatever coal some play get to make the players Yeah let's get Outta here. We'll have news and Carville when we were in theory. Yes yes in theory. I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. This is the borough Ed it asks me to personalize the read for the brand and my audience. 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Ask My favorite game of the year. I forgot about that. You are you if people are betting with if they're not happening with you they're stupid because you're winning. I I have to thank all the people in the UNIVAC Computer Algorithm guys you know the gals down in in the computer proprietary numbers as you know what guys again Army Shit Armageddon. Ten and a half and I I it navy's Good I. I know that even as as you guys know. I've been riding on me for a long time and I hope guys who they play this game. That's the rest of their lives in this beat back in points. It is so stirring when they walk in and you know. They're wearing the full dress uniform. You've been to that. Tony Been in once Hopefully stirring Ashdown Feinstein more exciting nominated gave him a Lehigh Bucknell basketball. I think he would always say Army Navy. I think he would although he made a lot of money right in about the Patriot league as well. Is that one game this week no. NFL about come coming back in the pros pretty heavy I got I got some heavy opinions coming into this south. I think I'm GONNA be heavy on the Minnesota Vikings but not this week. You're saying next week. Actually okay. I think they're going to beat the SNOT Green Bay with a climate. So so you are. You are a believer then in cousins even even though cousins record against winning teams is hideous insidious. I'd be out here. I think I think Minnesota's okay like Ed Ocean on. It's ten in one against COP. Canteen Tigers go tigers. Joe I'll ask you a question. Joe Bar just completed. The greatest season any players had history college football. I would have told you because because of the national championship I would have told you that Cam. Newton had the greatest season I had ever ever seen if borough leading into the playoffs so far appears to have be having the greatest season that I remember. And you're old enough to remember number this too since OJ Simpson and OJ Simpson here. He won the heisman. Don't you think what would happen would Bara. Who's done the competition Titian? He's done it again. I mean when he it mean Georgia is an old world defense. I mean I'll world. He killed them even on the field. How he killed totally picked him up on? Yeah he plays he does. He played five teams. That win a top ten when item. That hasn't been done since. Nineteen thirty six no and it and it's a complete change in what you expect from. Lsu I mean they always said you know. We finally have a quarterback and they didn't and now they do they do. He's going to win the Heisman iceman. He's GonNa win it. He'll probably get the highest percentage of heisman votes. You won't be unanimous but he'll probably get the highest percentage ever which is now ninety one point four. He'll probably get that torch the best season in but if he got. Don't you think he has to win. You Know Oh how much a man to Lsu football. I didn't even accept it till midway in an game watching the game as we good. They were very good. We have very very high state and Clemson are just as good. I mean. Don't get me wrong about that. And I'll cocky about the thing but man we're good man. He's a good boroughs. Dang James. We'll talk to you next week. All all right man good deal. It's a video game numbers. We have to of course bleep. Everybody was amazing. But we heard every word easily have been most career country. Alabama's Alad Army is. Yes we will start off with the President's cup over in Australia now. A great start to team. USA Essay worst possible outcome for day one. That's not good. We'll go to a Gulf correspondent. Michael Kornheiser frothy details from Melbourne. Yes Mike Twenty interrupt by saying Michael Remember have notes. Coll- remembers to tell me about the president's Cup last evening. I I had forgotten about it when I watched until I fell asleep. Tiger bigger and Justin Thomas were up by three and then two and then three again. The can't lay and shaw flay were even and and Dj and Gary Woodland Digest Two bombers. They stunt the join out. They were down read and WHO's replaying with Webb Simpson. They were down and fee now in and D Shambo. They were down. They were all down. So this You actually have some interesting storylines wor Ernie els is relying on analytics to create these pairings and actually I think tigers relying much more on. Just the buddy buddy conversations. Who Do you play well with? What do I WANNA see out out of you and I actually want to look at that last pairing with woodland and Dustin Johnson dozen? Johnson's WHO's coming off of a recent Nassar Audrey. He has not played. Neither one of these players can put it all. You put them in the anchor match on a golf course that is built around difficult. Greens if you're watching this on. TV This looks a lot like Augusta. National not surprising because you have the same architect and the same design philosophy also not surprising as to why you see certain players particularly captain's picks by Ernie els like Adam headwind headwind who go out and take over a match so I was a little disappointed. I think if you actually take a look at the way the Americans are lining up for day to. It's a a we have to get this thing right at right now. So this is a thirty point total match. You have twelve available points on the final day which is singles which plays into the hands of the the American players a much deeper team. But it's these early fourball foursome matches. Were Ernie els is trying to swing this in his favor. He definitely did then day one. They need to at least go three into today to try and get this closer going into eight point. Are you going to be critical down tiger. Do you think Tiger made a mistake so oh I think he made a mistake. In that one pairing I did not like to see him leaving cooter and Rickie Fowler to the best putters on the board. Now you might say in four-ball young guys who are going to go out and make a lot of birdies. Unfortunately this is. This is a golf course where you're not going to overpowered which is what. Dj In woodland are going to do number. Eleven is Z.. Perfect example it's a risk reward short par for everyone got on everyone's going for DJ got on. And what did he do. He had a meaningful three and a half footers to win the barely. He touched the right edge. Conversely Tiger misses any bad spot and he gets the advantage over walking Neiman a younger guy. 'cause he's done his homework and knows how to play to this. The sort of back left shelf these these Greens run away in all directions geyser hitting 20-footers eight ten feet by and so that's why you just look at those two particular particular guys in Fowler. WHO's not played very well this fall and he just say I would have liked to see one of those guys out there? Some of this comes down to the discussion of Patrick riches. You have to get them out early to try and quiet quite the crowd to try and get him in rhythm. I actually think he played well enough. I think the pairing with Webb Simpson worked. And I think that four spot was right but does that affect the other guys around him mess to sort of looking at him looking at where the sort of rhythm of the day's going so one question three of the matches that the United States lost they lost one down. That one down that to me. Always sort of sugges- where's the guts. You know if you lose by one if you get beat four and three you got beat but to lose by one. I think I think that has to do with your insides you I think for this course it. It has more to do with the actual design. If you listened to golf channel fuel economy might say you have to get out to an early start you've the scoreboard. Holes are in the first six at any any of a lot of very difficult par fours and par-threes where it's hard to get inside twenty feet. He saw one par. Three hundred ninety five yards hitting nine iron letting the ball run forty yards yards to the pin. You're seeing great shots that are landing twenty five feet away. You're not going to even with two chances at it. You'RE NOT GONNA make a lot of Birdie putts on those Greens outside at twenty feet and I think that's what the international team understood as to getting off to that fast start and I think a lot of it comes down to not just the preparation of the players. The captains of Geoff Ogilvy who is Australian. Alan lives down. The street knows this better than anyone. Ernie els not the playing-captain like tiger but has had a ton of professional success. Here on this course and was hands is on the guy's telling them how to put these pins. Look that's good. What else Louis use tight? Thank you for that Chris. Yeah we'll go back to baseball. Mr Tony some adjustment for your Washington nationals. Yeah so they took the third base coach Bob Henley moving from third to first base. How how else can you read that other than you send too many wrong home? Yeah I didn't know. His name was Bobby Stanley. She's we'll go. I I mean Davis says this is not a demotion but it feels like a demotion if you go from third base too I yeah what do you do at vogue are went where when benched bench. So car went from first base from the bench onto third. Yes I mean. The first base coach mostly seems to hear that the guys take battle Eh. Yeah what do you want to eat. So there you go We go to college football. Mr Tony couple of hirings this looks like Fau is GonNa get Willie. TAGGART constantly. Boston cleaned up Florida state. Plus they paid them off in the middle of the year said police just lease. Oh He's taking the place a lane kiffin. who was you know had had a scandal career Kiffin and is now at Mississippi and go well at FAU DID COLORADO STATE HIRES Steve Steve Adagio? And I I don't understand what he was. Just forty four and forty four at BC since when is BC Alabama. The Guy. I don't I disagree with fire and him. Yeah that seems to be straight. Maybe if luke ever gets back to America we can slow it Luke. INSTAGRAM update. I sent this to Michael Last night. Incredible Picture Luke Floating in the Dead Sea m thumbs double thumbs CBS up. Of course caption floaty just incredible stuff if you would think it was a parody account. But it's not. He's he's currently in. He's in that part of the world and I think you know he's in Jordan right now and I think he was in he. He's been gone for a couple weeks. Michael Jordan S. his own country. He does yeah named after him. But we laugh at Luke a lot of the photos he shares are most of them are beautiful kid because we care we love luke the so good Kawhi Leonard went home last night by home. I mean to Toronto behind you got around good for him. Yeah Nice win over the you. Can't you can't be angry if you're Toronto was a rental for one year and everybody knew it and got a standing ovation. They weren't angry orderly. Yeah they were. They reacted the right way. John what free. She ate what he did Canada and let him go if he wants to let them go home. Problem is great Similarly to different thing when he left he went as far away as you can. The laugh is taunting And this blow harden seems like he can play a little bit the basketball harden. Here's what I did it under Simeon. They beat the cavaliers at one point the Cavaliers scored twenty four straight points. I don't know how in the NBA that happens. I don't know how the other teen gene doesn't hit one Basler's worth of score. It's so amazing. Twenty four straight points in the this is not college these these guys these guys do them anywhere and lose. Yeah just very odd very odd but by the way the Washington Post has a big story on Davis Burton's and what a great the Latvian laser. Yo Yeah what do you have the thirty two the other shoot on a seven and sixteen team. What else It's Tony the SAG bag. Nominations have come out. We will bypass television. But we'll go straight to the movies go. What are the best movies? Five best movies Let's see how they do this or outstanding. They call cul de sac performance by cast and motion. These these are what they consider to be the best five movies bomb. Show the Irishman Joe Joe Rabbit once upon a time and only would would parasite and apparently Mr three thousand is what is in power site lot. What is that? I've heard of that. One yeah what is I said. I don't want it versus rory. No nope no nineteen seventy. Not Shell is the Fox on the hasn't come out yet shell yeah. So what about Hitler is a good guy or something. Harris say three revisionism. Hitler is some kid in Hitler youth. It's I don't know that I wanted to watch it. That does not sound. I'm surprised that springtime for Hitler in Germany parasite a Korean black comedy thriller agreed in Class. Discrimination threaten the newly formed symbiotic relationship between the wealthy park family and the destitute Kim clan. Okay all right. What else We take you to Wales for this final story Mr Tony Is Lovely wedding going on The Best Man at the wedding twenty nine year old Thomas Wilson who is the brother of the groom Kaluga upset when the bride Aaron Mason George had allegedly asked her new husband been Stephan to go to bed believing believing that he'd already had too much to drink. We will see this on a Yvette too much. Why don't you just hit the? Hey this enraged Wilson who reportedly threw punches at her and attempted to drag her down the staircase by her wedding dress over her brother-in-law yes now brother-in-law yes and he's beating in her up if you don't tell my brother watch because he was upset that so that he was that she was sending into bed. Yeah so during the rampage. Wilson also saw assaulted Mason George two sisters and mother and causing damage to the venue. I hope he's in jail Mazal Tov to the happy couple. He's soon jail. The manager of that venue the lampe Tres Falcon Dale Hotel as you free plug great place to stay. Where's it? What city is it's in Wales? Oh yes was also grabbed by the shirt during the altercation. So Wilson really getting. I'll punch anyone. In addition to physically assaulting everyone wilson reportedly told his own brother that he was quote. Gordon quote no longer a Wilson. Stephan never should have married mason joy nauseating a sister. The other question is was the brother intoxicated during the rampage. Or was he sober. I think it's safe to say that he had had in sentencing. The judge said that you know you your thoughts and bad memories of what should have been a happy event. So he is. That's a judge what's great as it gets. I remember it every year. GET OUTTA here We will have what we have old guy and Jeff Ma fantastic. I'm Tony Kornheiser in. This is the Tony Kornheiser show. This is the simply safe. Add in some states. The week after Christmas brings the heaviest caseload for police break in spike every single year during the holidays because families are traveling and burglars. No people have expensive gifts lying around. That's porch piracy right. Yes yes what's crazy. Our only only one in five homes has home security. They say have home security. 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No when I'm done drive home and I just listened to four or five songs makes me very happy. It's not all Sinatra but it's not to type summer wind a nineteen sixty five song originally released. I don't know if you knew this in Germany as event. No I didn't Yeah No. That's everybody's done this song written by Charles Aznavour. Did this song everybody. Yes I recruited by Wayne Newton. Everybody's someone yeah written by Hans Meyer and German language lyrics by Hans Bradtke broadcast. Yeah so yeah but you. You can't go wrong with a friend on now now. Well my ways terrible. It's up and spit it out. Shut up but Most of his gripes Blue Eyes Jeff module US Jeff. You've had a rough week. Jeff was two and four last week is thirty six thirty three and one so if you are devoted to Jeff Ma you have made money Jeff Monson Rufus peabody have the podcast beat the bet the process bet the process. And what do you have for us now. That was a tough week last week for you. College Games hurt you. If I'm not mistaken yeah I mean well I was wanted to and in both of them. yeah it was. It was a tough week. I mean sometimes you know. Oklahoma was in a situation where they you know. We're we're well on the way covering and yes out of third string quarterback back in there see. No yeah wow great philosopher. Wow Zeno comes. In his first two passes for one hundred eighty yards and a touchdown. Wow yes salaam. Yeah and it was like you know they they they let that happen and and so there's nothing you can say beyond that but I felt pretty good about that position that I was in In the NFL. Like yeah. There was some bad bets there so it it happens I would he got. We're GONNA go with the chargers there's plus the two and a half over Minnesota This is a game where people are GonNa say oh. The chargers are eliminated. What do they have to play for But the reality is you know. They've they've probably know pretty well that they're not gonNA make the playoffs this year for a lot of the year and they certainly last week gave great efforts so would think that they will come in and play Hard that that narrative is often overrated. And that's why you get so much value your With the chargers getting two and a half points at home okay. We're GONNA go with the bears over Green Bay One of the things that I There plus five over Green Bay one of the things that I feel very strongly about. Is that Green Bay is very overrated. Team the the numbers the underlying. Metrics do not match with the record and many much of that is because Green Bay has just had a very good record in these close. Those Games I think the bears are going to play. Well the rest of the year probably overperform what they have done so far this year. So I like the bears so so you you had You picked against Green Bay last week. You pick the redskins last week when comfortable. Yeah you won comfortably okay. All right what else. The redskins even had a chance to win that game. Yes I mean who would have some kid And then I'M GONNA take Houston Plus Three over Tennessee Tennessee. Honesty is obviously everyone's darling right now. The Panel Hill Derrick. Henry Combo is certainly winning people. A lot of fantasy games but The reality is you know they're pretty average team in Houston. I think is is still a better team than they are Despite what happened last week was Houston obviously laying it laying eggs. I mean you've eat the Patriots and then the next week you follow up with that. It's pretty embarrassing. So I think they come back here and Win this game over satiety. Okay and then I'm GonNa go with one college game. There's obviously only one we get so many. Take Tony Well. Carville was on earlier and took army. I'M GONNA guess you're GonNa Take Navy now. I'm arm and a half. There's obviously a a little bit uncertainty about Kelvin Hopkins The the quarterback for army but You know hoping obviously he plays and even if he doesn't play how much of a difference will that make probably not you know like Rufus and I went over this game on our podcast and Rufus. His numbers have this lined up as navy should only be favored by four points. So that's a that's a big difference From what we're seeing here and you know these teams certainly a lot of the over under his game is only forty which half points and a game where the over under his only two lots too much on a point. Yeah it's way too much point so I mean you always take something like that. That is the one game. That's the one game this week. All right I will. We want you to win. I know I wanNA win two Komo. That's winning is is the whole. Thank you Jeff Jeff Ma. You wonder and it's bet the process Jeff Ma and Rufus peabody. There's jeff ever get bored of winning winning. I'm sick of winning winning. They'RE GONNA come to Jeff One day and they're going to say I got fleas. Were winning too much. That's one of my favorite in turn. Brisk disavow I want to I want to tell the story of yesterday and not not getting a ticket when I went to physical therapy because I had a place to park. That's a win okay. So the guy who runs the Westin Hotel tell on twenty four hundred m which they call the West in Georgetown. That's close to enough Kotecki gets done. Yeah Ross Davis is a listener and he had offered to let me park in the little courtyard area out. It's my physical. Therapist is the twenty-fifth and M.'s. So it's a block away beautiful block away. I didn't avail myself of it last week at that workout. Thirty dollar ticket outrage. I've got a third of a meter by the way the broken. It didn't work good. He said he said I won't give you a ticket. But he said you know the plausible deniability by give you tick anyway so I didn't even have to call. Ross Davis Ross Davis yesterday or the day before the day before the evening before said. I'm expecting you. We're GONNA make sure that this works my my guy out front. Is Ben Benham media in your car. I'll be there to say hi as well. What time do you think you might get here? I said well my points for eleven forty five and I'm one of those people who's observe their nine five one coughlin time depends on how long Kevin I said I'm going to be. I'm GONNA be there. Maybe between Levin Twenty Eleven thirty somewhere around there eleven thirty I pulled up made a left hand. Turn in Tank you for that I was. I was just going to turn to turn left or right to get in the left turn anticipated. The question made a left hand. Turn and get in but pull my car in and then came out and then Ross came out. This was great. That's parked my car when I got back. My car was sitting outside and I took the keys. I gave the guy a hundred. No hundred The guy give him life advice so simply guy who handed me my hat. You know total. was there a gloss with the chocolate on the dashboard. For you now know I was thrilled. That's the best best real life changing. It's make make the whole rest of your day. Hey better and Ross said to me. It's little's helping bigs that's fantastic. I just thought that was great. This is like so that's available for all of us on the program. What's that number again? A and this is low. I'm looking for a wrong. This is the Third Georgetown when people sin. I don't care what don't care when descend don't send me anything. I mean less sending no money let us know not unless you address them all to desolation. No I'm not to send me anything but something like this the the ability to make my life a little bit easy. It's eas- that's the best zero. Maybe Mazza Auto. So everybody should go to that hotel. Just go to that. Yes the West in Georgetown friends crush enemies and get parking maybe amend the motto. You you know speaking of that I did I. I won't take a lot of time on this but I had one of these thoughts today. I don't as you know I don't use social media I don't read read stuff on social media. I don't and this is a calculated decision. Because I know who I am I know I may very thin skinned human human being and if I read things about me that were bad even if they were true I would be infuriated and I would attack somebody so I I don't I just don't do it. I don't look at it. I know there's bad stuff out there because my son tells me you should see this stuff that name it's banned. Ah wrote myself when I was driving in here. Guy Said I'm GonNa go on the air today and I'm GonNa say this I'm GonNa say look if somebody has written something. I'm terrible about me on social media. The people like the show should attack that person Mercilus they should get together in groups and attack that person and then I thought I don't. That's that's so crazy so I'm not. I'm just saying what I was going to say but I'm not actually. I'm not actually saying that but it speaks to the character director floor of me which is just just just. I'm just nasty. I'm a not in no nine vantage. Additionally there's nothing wrong with being I am vengeful. No that's a great show I am. You're not nasty your vengeful. That's that's something that ties us together. God Is Vengeful Testament. Might them more of an old testament than a lot of ways. But I I don't I don't want to encourage the UNCIVIL behavior in social media so I'm not going to think that hip purpose sailed through my system just it was uncontrollable rage for reasons that I don't even you're so smart the staff of social media because I had an episode earlier this week in which someone who will go on name but used to work at CNN as an anchor attacked me in it became it was totally out of context context and wrong like the attack was not based on what I had written but it was a day and a half of. I can't look at my social media because it's people who are just taking taking that tweet not reading what I wrote and just being like. You're actually some of them. Were pretty funny. They were like how how. What is the secret that you get paid and can you tell me it which is just it's it's it's mental time space? That's not worth. Don't WanNa do it. I mean there was no about a month ago ago when when remarks that I had made about placement of stories in a newspaper were misinterpreted and hurled back at me. I should've could've why didn't what you have to realize particularly social media now is that and this is your thing is a good example. People are wilfully a misunderstanding and canoe and take name for it and taking things purposely out of context to fuel the outrage machine. Don't want it two and if you know it would just make it hotter. What I don't WanNa do that well in? And we've also had experience with email Jihad's in the past. Yes we unleash. The hounds so to speak and unleash the hounds. Yes there was that guy. Who was that guy? It's a two word name. The last name is BURP BURP. You remember the I remember. That guy came on telling me that I needed to give I mean just you said you make a lot of money scolded you. Just you need to give money to this. 'cause no I don't just very aggressive don't and we unleash that email it for a long time worked for local local TV station. I think he did yes. I think we should probably stop. Yes good okay. Okay email and jingle bell. I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. ooh ooh aw come time for Mr When we God your taxes and your the two day he'll be well to Hillary Yours to food delivery company. Mark Schaefer Hawaiian. Oh come on. It's the she fritz. Fantastic before we get to the mail bag. Let me guess today for meet the press host. Chuck Todd Jeff Ma host of the podcast bet the process and James Carville. WHO DOES A podcast with Al Hunt called twenty twenty four room politics with Al Hunt? Let me also thank today. Sponsors simply safe US edition and borough remember to listen and subscribe to an archived episodes of the Tony Kornheiser show wherever you listen to podcasts including apple podcast spotify. Google play radio DOT COM. 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Okay went on a date about a month ago that ended in my house at which time she signed into her Amazon Trimbe accounts so we could watch a movie. As time passed I realized I had access to her account. And I see the Americans listed remembering Tony's talk about the Americans I of course begin watching the show I got about nine episodes into the first season and I lose access now. What do I do a caller and asks for her logging information be asked on another date in hopes of getting her account information information see pay for Amazon prime even though I already have net lakes and Hulu for TV thoughts merrier second date update? Yeah supposed yeah get account immediately get it annulled day APPS and that's what I did with my first three. Go to my wife from Stephen Crawford McLean Virginia Jinyan thanks for producing the barely audible. KIP Shimano winter weather. I sure wasn't sponsored by the James Carville sneaker phone I wanted to warn the listeners that they should heed the advice vice that Mr Simmons opinions and forecasts should not be used for planning vacations in September of two thousand fifteen when a hurricane threatening east coast. I listened to your show and recall that you make catastrophic predictions a week in advance that the storm would hit the coast. I freaked out and cancel my trip to Maine only to later. Watch the storm drift out to see the woman who I'm currently married to to still has not forgiven me for this. By the way this email is sponsored by AOL if you still use AOL email address. You must be seventy one years old. Yes ps yes. carvills s bomb made it onto the Friday pond cans. Oh we got today. So let's hope we get the days so we can do. We will get today. How did that happen? Not Sure Carville likes to work. Blue Ryan Popovich. Maybe maybe related. I don't Know Ryan Robertson. ACHESON's is it possible solicits. Ten in your old can accidentally drive the car into a water nice. Try Cam and Bridge Ville Delaware. I know Ridgeville Delaware. He lived there. You'd be home now as as you and Michael Shared Your Road trip story of this past. Saturday reminded me of some father son moments. I've had with my nine year old stepson sitting in our kitchen table Evan. I got a ten piece. Chicken nuggets from McDonald's Donaldson only gave me one sweet and sour sauce. Me Go into the fridge. They're packs of Polynesian sauce from chick-fil-a. You can use Evan Cam. You cannot use chick-fil-a sauce us on McDonald's chicken nuggets. It's against the law. After hearing your story I know what I have to look forward to in life brutal from Mike. O'Brien in Boston. Formerly my girlfriend and I will be in town January tenth. And since you're helping tickets it has been my girlfriend's lifelong to attend to Washington Wizards versus Atlanta Hawks Game Game. I can't afford the face value tickets and I was wondering if anyone can help get affordable tickets to the game. I know this is a reach but if you can get Hamilton tickets. I'm sure he can swing some wizard seats. Hey I don't know that I can get Hamilton B.. You go on seatgeek and eat and you don't have to pay original price taking part in there for like six dollars. I heard. Lifelong dream is to see a hawks. Wizards game overstate its from land. PhD Salisbury Maryland. I was thinking of you as I finished watching my fourteenth Walmart Christmas movie of the year. So far yes. There's an APP so you can keep track of that. As the lead. Actress Kristin Chenoweth fifty-one is running around her hometown of New York City Eighty. She repeatedly praises the virtues of using caves and derides those keep urging her to use a car sharing APP. I never noticed putting quarters in a parking meter or walking into a bank to get more cash but thought you would be able to identify with anyway. The title of the movie is a Christmas Love Story. And I'm sure you could find someone to whom you're late to by marriage would watch it with you. I know this plot. It fails to conform to your stereotypical comedy musing about hallmark Christmas movies but sometimes facts get in the way of a good joke by the way this year. The hallmark channel is introducing the first Hanukkah movies in seven in years with holiday date premiering on December Fifteenth Double Holiday on December. Twenty second in in light of that and I don't make fun of this. There was a terrific story in the outlook look section of the Washington Post last week about those Hanukkah movies and how they are essentially corrupt and how they are saying that the only way you know to enjoy the holiday season season is to do what everybody else does and subscribe to a particular religious ethic. So if you WANNA watch if you WANNA read that it was in the post and was very very good. And I'm I'm not knocking hallmark movies for you. I'm knocking them from me. There's two things that happened when I walk into my house they won. The temperature is often set to ninety six. Unreasonable to the hallmark channel is often on and when I say often and only when I walk in the room is it suddenly flipped eight fifty an ESPN. It's on hallmark all the time. If you're out a new bike tied everyone is always do wear white. Honestly what we're doing here You do we want to try to talk about mm-hmm arena transitions. John Renegotiate it. All the big off screen Mitch and it was right that a Ziti. Maybe just a you got it got lat long and all the lesson Reynaud law have no will go. Hello Janine and we're still up but it was always right out wishbone. Fan Jeff you make Joe Directions. Look our The singing uh-huh go. CBS News the job. uh-huh A Long Day on the road. Only dropoff for your mouth from my job before for the south six though. I'm only one day. Maybe it's been the consummate. Has Those muscles awesome my baby. You could say self restraint in my notes. I in my mind to this on the nine the dog on February nine nine. Aw No in all honesty nine.