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345- Classic Cartoon Sound Effects!

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345- Classic Cartoon Sound Effects!

"This is ninety nine percent invisible. I'm Roman Morris. The podcast twenty thousand Hertz. Tell stories about the world's most recognizable and interesting sounds. It is a great show that you should definitely subscribe to an employee's to present one of their episodes here today. It's all about these sounds, which almost need no introduction. From twenty thousand Hertz here is Dallas Taylor. If you watch cartoons as a kid, you probably knew instantly that the sound you just heard was from looney tunes. You probably also know that sound met Wiley Coyote failed to catch the road runner. Again. It's pretty crazy how we can fill in the whole scene based solely on the sound effects. Even without a single meet meet from the road runner. Wiley Coyote started falling off cliffs in nineteen forty nine yet. We still hear that falling sound effect and modern cartoons. Like teen titans. I wouldn't stand there. Here. It is in Justice league action. Do you do that it defied for lots of? And here it is even in family guy. How it's been almost seventy years since the first Wiley Coyote cartoon, and that sound along with many other cartoon sounds remains constant. The beauty and the joy of cartoon animation. Is that the characters do not have to obey the laws of physics? They also don't have to obey the laws of logic. And therefore sound doesn't have to obey those laws either. That's Markman gene, an Oscar winning sound designer who works with the Formosa group. I don't very often get to talk about my early days and cartoons. Mark doesn't get a lot of questions about cartoons. Because he has an impressive resume. Designing sounds for Hollywood blockbusters I've worked on a hundred and forty two live action films most recently blade runner. Twenty forty nine Mad Max fury road, which I want an Oscar for and I'm very proud of warrior from Linz four star Trek's diehard a lethal weapon the green mile. But before Mark did sound for films. He worked for one of the most famous cartoon studios in the world. My first job in sound was at Hanna Barbera studios in their sound department. I started as a track reader, which is a subset of sound editing where you're charged with transcribing the recordings of the voices. So that the animators no went to open close the mouths of the characters. Keep your Ryan the ball Bonny boy that led to subsequent promotions to becoming a sound effects editor in that department at Hanna Barbera and an apprenticeship with a number of really amazingly gifted sound editors back, then this was nineteen seventy six I didn't know anyone who was called a sound designer. But I would argue that everything that we were doing at Hanna Barbera was every. It as designed as maybe something more profound that words being heard in a motion picture Mark worked on some of hanna-barbera most famous cartoons the Flintstones. Some Huckleberry hound's far bar my. A whole raft of Scooby doo. The super friends their mission to fight and Justice to write that, which is wrong and to serve all mankind. And my personal favorite because it starred Mel Blanc captain caveman. Long before Mark worked for Hanna Barbera and even before Wiley Coyote was falling off cliffs Walt Disney made history with steamboat Willie in nineteen twenty eight. This was the first cartoon with synchronized picture and sound. Walt and ROY and of I works themselves would be the sound effects guys in their live orchestral recording sessions for those early steamboat Willie's in the early days before there was multi track recording or mixing you had to perform the sound effects live with the orchestra in one straight past. So these sound effects guys had to assemble props put them in front of microphones and perform anything that they could acoustically live and in sync with the orchestra. Music and sound effects had to be performed at the same time in the same space musical instruments were used to make the effects because they were easy to find an easy to manipulate in this, Tom and Jerry clip the sound of a frying pan hitting Tom's face is played by simple crash. And that falling whistle from the beginning of the episode. That's played on a slide. Whistle. The percussionist would probably have it as part of their kit. And it was just a natural to convey going up. Or down. You could manipulate them in any one of a number of ways for quickly or very slowly. Sound effects played by musical instruments became an iconic part of all cartoons. Then new audio technology in the nineteen thirties allowed sound editors to add sound effects after recording the orchestra. They could use any prop to make a sound but often still chose musical instruments because sound effects and music were tightly linked they worked together to create unique soundscape listen to this audio clip from the very first Bugs Bunny cartoon called porky's hare hunt in it. You can get an idea of how affects and music can come together. The sounds for porky's hare hunt were created by an editor named trag Brown. Trig worked on looney tunes for decades and created many of the iconic cartoon sounds we still know today. Watch. We divorced ourselves from the need to record live to picture trag head this fundamental understanding of how to decontextualize a sound how to take the sound of your finger in a coke bottle and make that the sound of the road runner tongue flip. Or why the sound of an inertia starter the sound of this motor that makes a by plane engine start. Why that's the sound of a spinning Tasmanian devil. She learned to be a genius at taking sounds out of one context and placing them in another context, and that's what made him so amazing. And when you listen to those looney tunes shorts. There isn't a lot of cartoon sound in those there isn't a lot of comedic sound. It's all blind and his ability to take us out from somewhere else and put it where it didn't belong creating this bizarre juxtaposition that made it funny. I don't think there was anybody better than he was at that around the same time trek was working at Warner Brothers William Hanna and Joseph Barbera, creating the Tom and Jerry cartoons at MGM marksman tour. Craig Watson was a sound editor on those early Tom and Jerry cartoons. When I met him. He was in his sixties late in his career, but immensely proud to be still working in cartoon. He still saw it as an art form some. Is very proud of. And he would never take credit for anything unless I asked him. He Greg where did this come from? And he said, oh, I remember back in, you know, fifty one when Bill did this one funny scene with Jerry, and we needed a funny sound, and we thought it would be good to do this. He was a man that was just thrilled to be a part of the process. L Hannah and Joseph Barbera eventually created their own studio then during their thirty years of making cartoons. They created a massive library of totally classic sounds. I think they're unique at least because of their own merit. They're just silly. So many of them even out of the context of the cartoon just sound like that's just the silliest thing I've ever heard. But then within the context of the cartoons in the way that they were used in the life that they brought to those cartoons. They get better basking in the limelight of the animation. For instance, this is pretty silly on its own. Now, imagine Tom hanging from his whiskers in the unavoidable fall as each one is plucked from his cheeks. There were hundreds of millions like this created at Hanna Barbera studios. They had such a signature quality to themselves that it made them stand out as a unique piece of quality artwork, sonic artwork in the nineteen sixties. Hanna Barbara started selling their sound library other production companies like Warner Brothers use. These sounds to this day, the popularity of the Hanna Barbera sound library has given cartoons and almost universal sound language, but Mark Fields. Some sounds are overused. I was on a one man campaign to a radical head take it was this inane noise. That was I again, I think a recording accident that you would use whenever a character all of a sudden caught themselves in the midst of thinking or experiencing something bizarre, and it was way overused and did you ever notice? How it sounds? When a cartoon character runs. Marks not a fan of that one. Either that running sound was called blop Gallup. And again, a sound that was I felt over using. I tried to not use it as often as I could to logical, but I tried not to use it as often as possible it's a testament to its effectiveness, but even in nineteen seventy six I was turning into an elitist, I suppose, Hello embarrassing. Of course, there are plenty of sounds that Mark loves like a tip toeing xylophone. Oh, that's a classic sound. I actually used that sound. I did the two Flintstone live action movies. And I did use it in that. Because that was a sound that Brian LeVine the director, and I just loved and we just couldn't avoid using that. My favorite was the Jetsons. Spaceships. I never found out what those were made from a tried to deconstruct them asked around the studio, they know who made them nobody knew. But that sound always brings a smile to my face. Sadly, some of these old techniques have been lost. But remember this was a busy studio and everyone was focused on getting the work done on time and getting her tunes on air. It was a real machine. It always started with track reading, this is all point puns line one. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, which is to say the voices would be assembled in a studio with a script and storyboards the director of that show would walk the talent through the recording sessions. So that you captured all the voices speaking all the lines that you needed for that particular episode, just what's the party? Okay. Then the animators would go off, and then draw the characters doing these things then a month later, all the enemy would come back and short roles of completed scenes that we in the Dettori department would assemble them in their story board order and then cut them down to show. There wasn't like Anna Matic's in between like we have in live action, we dissemble show and then cut sound to it. When Mark was working with hanna-barbera. They didn't have a department dedicated to creating new sounds if he wanted an effect that wasn't in the library. He had to find it himself. You adjust kind of on your own. I was the most adventures especially for the super friends. I would go across the hall to talk to the two composers appalled court and white curtain, and I'd ask them for musical sound. And especially synthesizer sounds. So they would give me long recorded stretches of just weird noises. They'd make with their synthesizers, and they would always be used as the science fiction components of. I had a spaceship or a flying saucer in an episode. That's what I use the electron sounds for because that felt futuristic. And if Mark couldn't find the sound he wanted he had to create it, even if he had to use his own voice, if you can't find it you do it with your voice. It's the easiest tool to manipulate. You have total control over it. I use it for creatures and animals and funny noises did a lot of gremlins voices for the gremlins movies have fun. Putting? It's just something where you feel the character inside of yourself when you think I can do this better. And you just do it. Mark also went on to work on some of the most classic animated films. I did beauty and the beast. This is Aladdin. I can show you. Shiva? And The Lion King. Mark's experiences with animated films were different from the grind of televised cartoons. If nothing else, you get much better schedules, usually get the time to design and create something that no one's ever heard before another sort of unique distinction is that you have the option to create sound first, and then have animation be done to what you did. It's not that often that we get to actually drive the image and on the the Disney animated films in the Pixar films in the DreamWorks films and others. They're smart enough to know the value of sound and how it can be the inspiration to the artist to draw something they might not otherwise have drawn for example in beauty and the beast bells. Dad was this inventor Neha built that funny axe chopping machine that was a sound that we made we? Four animated. That's just pure design. That's when you get to let your imagination run wild. You can see a picture from a story board. And then you just get to dream up. What it might sound like, and that's just gold for sound designer when you're sort of allowed to design unfettered. with all the cable channels in streaming services available today, there's more animation than ever before. So how does sound design work in modern cartoons in which Connick sounds are still used today? We'll get to all of that. When twenty thousand Hertz on ninety nine percent of his -able continues. With squarespace. You can turn your cool idea into a website, showcase your work or promote your business in just a couple of clicks. Plus, they're beautiful website templates or optimized for mobile right out of the gate squarespace site. It's Roman Mars dot com. Super easy to make and loved. 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There's a perfectly logical explanation and the boondocks for Sony. Joe Heather is an expert in modern cartoon sound design cartoons down affects or different from live action sound effects because we'd live action you start with production sound you're recording a picture and the recording the audio at the same time wherever the actors are with their on a street. You have cars going by. It wasn't a cartoon. If you're doing a street scene. All I get is dialogue. It's just the actors who recorded and I get to start with a blank slate. I don't have to try to hide production backgrounds. I get to get the dialogue, and I get to create a world around it. It's kind of the best thing. And the worst thing at the same time to work on a cartoon because you're not trying to hide anything. But you have nothing to start with showing your head. You have to think what would the satellite much like marks time at Hanna Barbera Heather gets a fully animated show often had sound effects from a ready made library of sounds. This includes many from the Hanna Barbera and Warner Brothers libraries here are some of her favorites. It's called the two thunk sound effects. I think everybody knows what the sounds like maybe not what it's called. But it's that sound like when a character get your head stuck in a jar. You hear that? Love that old sound just so clearly conveys my head is stuck in this jar is not coming out again. And I also love all the old running sounds. And I'm using this phone blink all the time. Most sounds. I have just persisted in everybody's mind every show because that's language that we've started to understand someone blinks you kind of expect to hear that xylophone at this point. And of course, Heather uses the falling whistle. If they can our son of excellent, it's called bomb drop, but it's the same thing. I mean, that's another piece of the language that everybody knows. Since some of the show, she works on or more realistic. Heather wants us to hear the sounds of the characters moving around and interacting with their world. Kind of like a live action movie, the fully department really brings a show to life. They record footsteps. Things characters touch which we call props. They do more of the smaller sounds, and it's great to have fully doing that instead of a library because then you're not hearing the same footsteps over and over they really make it sound more real. And just like in the past. If you can't find a sound you have to make it the stranger things I've actually recorded at done myself sound effect is we had a bit in robot monster where everyone was in a crowded restaurant. So it's supposed to be this crowd of people gagging and grossed out by something, and that's not exactly an effect. I had sitting around my library. So grabbed a bunch of people around the office, and we recorded ourselves gagging in lots of different ways. And then I kind of pieced together into crowd. Sometimes layering. Multiple sounds together is the best way to create something new combination that you might not expect. And I did not invent this animals and engines is a really great one animal, roars under engines growls, really kind of brings a vehicle the life. A lot of shows do it wars. Definitely the typhi tres some growls under there as they go by. It's fantastic inspiration. Another option Heather has is to take a classic library zoned and change its pitch to make a new affect take this cartoon Boeing sound effect. She can pitch that sound up or down. Heather uses a lot of classic. Non literal sounds while working on cartoons. But some modern cartoons are more realistic than slapstick her choices really depend on the show. So especially we're gonna new show. We'll do what we call spotting the show where the clients come in. And we watch it together. And we kinda talk about what they'd like where and just the overall feel of the show is it going to be kind of a realistic show like spirit or is going gonna be really cartoony like fairly odd. Parents will be able to judge the whole fairly odd. Parents taught me how to speak cartoon. I'm not going near that thing with the appropriate predictive gives this just nonstop cartoon cartoon cartoon worsened spirit. It feels more like you're making a movie with you know, Horaces out in the fields with girls. Boy, don't you. Remember me from the train? Because spirit writing free has more natural sounds than a cartoon like fairly odd. Parents Heather needed. Some new sounds. We got a whole new horse library because in that show. There's three characters who are horses. So there are no actors voice in them. And they each have different personalities. We had to find different vocals reach of the horses. But even spirit writing free still sometimes needs a dose of the vintage cartoon sounds. A lot of times people will come in with their show and say, I don't want to use his old. Hanna Barbera sounds. I wanna do something completely different. But they've kind of animated the traditional ways. So when you put new sounds too that it just feels wrong and a lot of times eventually go back to using the older sound effects. When it comes to cartoon sound design market. Heather both agree that the medium pushes the boundaries of creativity. Characters stretch a naturally out of their body shapes. And those are just the simplest examples of visually what's happening with these characters. So in a way, it gives you permission to break the laws of what sound you should hear? When you see something I really like working for animation because I like the Bill the world with sound from the ground up because an animated the best part is designing a world from nothing world that no one's ever heard before and sound design a think is a huge part of the process for animation because there's no sound except the talking so you get to the backgrounds and sound effects fully, and I think it all combines to really bring the animation to life. So now, there's so many tools that anyone can get their hands on your really free to design sound in any way, your imagination desires important for us to follow our heart when we follow our heart. And then we make a career out of that we make. A day to day advocation to something that gives all of us purpose, and it allows us to make a contribution to the world. 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Mark Evanier

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Mark Evanier

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My name is Mark Kevin Air I'm a writer and a historian and. I'm taking a laundry now on the side. Everybody's got to make a living. However. We what we gotta do right. Avenue works. Run avars. This somebody has to. All right. How long have you seen each other? Since about nine Kennedy I would say. I when I was commuting out here in eighty suit. Is when I first met Mar.. And we moved here in eighty three. and. Our long that is. Is! Is when is when we first met and one of the first evenings we spent together after finding out that we were actually closed of each hour right and had the same chased and much the same kind of experiences as budding movie, Buffs and cartoon. Animation Butts. Mark took me to the home of dogs bummer. You, remember this. Yes, I do remember that. Yes. Have a have a workshop in his backyard. You know separate day. Guest House. And as we sat there, talking just one of the great cartoon, voice, Actors and radio Voice Actors of all time. and. I was hearing this natural voice. Not huckleberry hound. Not You know any of those other voices. He did asset. Why do I know that natural will be? To use this with Stan Freberg. On Saint George and the Dragon Net and little a little, blue, riding, little blue, writing well, yes, little, Blue Riding Hood and quite a few other things, and it's not that different from his huckleberry hound voice. Really. Obviously. So exciting to meet him, and he was just so sweet. And and Youtube have been in love Everson. Yeah! What we I was working when I. I had lunch with Leonard One day I was doing the TV show. That's incredible sunset gower studios and he came over, and we went to lunch and we walked around that lot. We had previously been Columbia. And we spotted were my might. Car was parked in a space that we recognize from a famous still of the three stooges on that lot. And in that space nineteen forty, whatever and it really didn't look that different. and then we went over to lunch nearby, and that evening we rendezvous again at the Numero Pizza. Restaurants prolonged memory. Beloved memory and and then I think I think it was the second time. Maybe it was. I don't remember. The time sequencer, but we wanted to see Dawes and I took letter to a few things ally that he had not seen before, and we talked a lot about what he was doing. auditioning at affects for for entertainment tonight, and the perils of having to move to Los Angeles if he got the GIG. and He got the GIG. And there? was. But we, we agree on absolutely everything, except it's a mad, mad, mad, mad world and stand Nollie so other than that. We're all fine. Fair Enough For Real. Send this we. Don't sal all. And I think. that. If you're a friend of ours, can't. You can't do any Butler annoying not allowed in house. The. What's your story? Nest with animation and become the man who brings me snowing, people. Well I grew up. In Los Angeles, and my parents bought me every conflict I wanted. And I wanted them all so I got them all and it I started loving cartoons on TV back then. They were running, not even best warner brothers cartoons. They were running the full of the Hitler. References on channel eleven locally I remember actually sitting there. In front of the TV, copying the cartoons, and because they were Hitler cartoons, I was drawing swastikas, which is not over big in a Jewish household fair and Got there was an intersection of the comic books and the cartoons and I really really loved for example, the Huckleberry Hound cartoon show, and this was in an era when. I got Huckle Brown one half hour a week, and no more. No, VCR's no streaming. No DVD's so the only other place I could find huckleberry Hound, and the other hours was the huckleberry Hound Comic, book, which was very close to the TV shows and I collected all the Hanna Barbera. Comic Books Little Dreamy I would someday right most of them and That will someday go to work for Hanna Barbera. but that's really just grew up and I love comics and cartoons and I started reading everything about them and. I did not think I would get into the called book business because I was growing up in Los. Angeles and the business was largely based in New York and every interview at red with people. The complex industry said well. You got to live in New York to work in comics, which turned out, not truly be true, but in nineteen, sixty nine I met a man named. Named Jack, Kirby who, then as now was the most creative force ever in the COP, look industry and I became an assistant to him, and I got into Connex kind of through Jack, and I got started writing Disney comics here I started writing Warner Brothers comics here and it was kind of a natural segue from writing the scooby. Doo Comic Book during the Scooby Doo TV show. and. It's worked out. I actually managed to turn my hobby into my career. The, that's I think the DAX heard of what makes you and my dad and your record group of friends. Dedicated Way War because this is the thing that you love. Yes i. find that that This is amber who you've met. is very fascinated. When she came into my life. By the fact that all my friends are doing something. They always wanted to do all their lives. Most of her friends think Oh, well. Maybe I can get a job at Costco. All, of, Garden! People don't when they're nine years old Seiji when I grow up I. WanNa stock shelves a Costco, but people say I want to be a writer. I wanted to be an artist I WANNA be film historian. I WANNA be a painter whatever it is, and most of my friends are those kinds of people they they're. They're magicians. They're doing whatever they do. It is something they wanted to do when they were six or seven or eight. And Leonard, same thing turned his hobby into a career, a lifestyle and You know it's it's. It's very soon. soothing very pleasing, because you don't feel like he ever really go to work. Except on the really horrible assignments. Which? Do. Come all, yes. Sarah! Well I. Loved Hanna Barbera and I got hired to write the Hanna Barbera comic books. And then I was the man who hired may retired, and he gave me the department to run so I visit somebody running the department. In the meantime I had gone to work for Hanna Barbera as a live action writer I was reading situation. Comedies Usually you go from writing cartoons to writing live action, I. Did it the other way around. I started writing for TV, shows Primetime TV show situation comedies. And I couldn't get into animation when I was working in Harrisburg. Build the Hunter Barbara Building ready anything account books I would say various people. I'd like to write the TV shows and at that point. And this this vacillated over the years Hanna Barbera had this idea that if you wrote live action TV, you couldn't write comic books because you didn't know how to write visually. A live action writer is encouraged to write as much of the show in one set as possible. Do it all in one room. If possible, the honeymooners, most of them took place in one room or two room. And an animation writer especially to show where the characters don't move that much. Keeps, you cheap changing the back. Keep having them go different places different places because that's the cheapest way to get some visual. Distinction into the saints so I got turned down and then I got hired as a live action writer on a Saturday morning show that was live action it was it was with the Bay city rollers a WHO would have thought they'd go onto such unbelievable heights in their career after that and Smith's I'm sure yes, of course. Yes, yes, we ended there I could. I could have broke up the Beatles before Yoko did if I put my mind to it and. so I'm writing a Saturday morning show and I met people in this Saturday morning departments at the networks, a lot of people and someone there recommended me to write for Natta may still called Ruby Spears all the time. Then it had a beer. I kept saying to Joe Barbera. I WANNA write cartoons and he'd say no. No live action writers can't write cartoons, and so then I went to work for other animation studios and one day Joe Barbara called me with a job offer and he said. Why don't you tell me you could write cartoons so? That was it and I wrote to them for a while and I actually left Hanna Barbera. For Dod reason I got I had a problem an emotional problem arguing with Joe Barbera it's hard to argue with somebody whose name is on the building. And he was charming man, very funny, very clever I understood why Hanna Barbera. Guts as big as it did and had a lot to do with the personal charisma. And sales pitching of Joe Barbera. Joe Barbera is the greatest salesman in the world. If he'd been hawking used cars, everyone in the world would have owned a ten year old Chevy. He was amazing that stuff and one day we were having an argument over his show I was working on and I suddenly stopped and said. I can't do this anymore. I can't argue with you I love how. Such a part of my child Hanna Barbera such a part of my life. I just I just feel like I'm going to leave at some point in a very ugly way. And I don't WanNa do that I wanted to keep this positive experience. And I really I really don't fit in at the studio anymore and he was very puzzled. He said. Are you saying telling me that the studios and big enough for both of us and seeking to get a cheap laugh, because you like to end these things on a laugh, I grabbed his hand shook, and said yes, right. If you get work, please. And he laughed and I left and I never went back to the studio to that. I I I just and I was happy I was happy. I ended when I I'm happy I worked there. I'm happy ended up before it turned negative on your next to tell us some of the other people you met. Well I shared an office with some guy named. Tex Avery. Avery, yes, I share an office attacks. Actually Hanna Barbera itself I met. In an all these guys who'd worked on the FLINTSTONES and Yogi bear like Jerry Izenberg and will talk Modo and you know Dave ten lar- from the old. Fleischer studio was working there at the time, and there were all these fascinating artists whose names a lot of people would know when I was doing the comic books, one of the guys played address. Some of them was a man named Owen Fitzgerald wasn't allowed department and Hanna Barbera own Fitzgerald was one of the greatest cartoonists that nobody ever heard of. He drawn the Bob Hope Comic Books for DC in the fifties he had drawn the Dennis the menace comic books, a lot of those for Faucet in the fifties he had. Worked over the business. It was he was fabulous. He was lightning fast, and he never got credited in Chuck Jones Autobiography There's a photo of a group of artists there and own. Fitzgerald is identified as unknown artists the photo. And that's what he was. He was an unknown artist and he drew some of the complex. I worked on I met and all the voice guys I. I had met Dawes Butler prior to my hand barber involvement, but I got to meet and work with Dan. Mesic and Allan Melvin and Jean Vander pyle and Almost folks I did a Chris Yogi bear Christmas special. Primetime you'll get your Christmas special for them. And the voice cast was Dawes Butler Dog Nasek Mel Blanc John, Stevenson. Jimmy Weldon the voice of Yankee. doodle came back to this to two lines as Yankee. doodle Janet Waldo Hal Smith it was. It was like the cream of the the surviving great hanna-barbera voices of my childhood. In it and Mel Blanc actually got to. Know I just. Now. I to direct MEL BLANC One time I. Actually Directed Mel Blanc in a bugs bunny recording, and I had to give Mel align reading on WHAT'S UP DOC? I had to tell him how to read the line, because we were looping an old clip, we read up clip and he was. Not, paying, attention, right attention to the clip he was, he was doing. What's up, doc? The normal pacing? He had the match the pace of the animation, which was an old Chuck Jones cartoon that we were changing the dialogue on slightly, and I spent a couple of hours with Mel Blanc and I got to know him a little bit. He was a fascinating man. I got to know all those guys got to know Mesic and and Janet Waldo and Howie Morris especially how Morris became like my crazy uncle, a crazy artificial uncle. and. It was just amazing to me to be in that environment and the Nice thing. was that every so often? Joe Barbera would come to me and say quick. What's Wilma flintstones maiden name I'd say. I'd say slag hoople go. Oh, that's right, thank you. Out and I thought I. Don't worry about these cartoons. The Joe Barbera. Tex Avery means you then what Texas remains to us now. Ex Avery could not have meant more to me ever that he did then. Every time I saw my detect. Save retake. It was. He, was he? He had had some family tragedies he was. He was not able to sit home a retired. We called Bill Hanna one day and said he got a place from the studio, and they said come on in, and they stuck with me. I had this great office before. texts moved into it with me. It was the. Where was position was was right in the hallway where you couldn't get to anyplace else in the building without going past my office and what happened would be. They were doing smurfs at the time and the smurfs sessions would let out and Jonathan. Winters was in a lot of them would walk into my office and there used to be a group of writers, and they're plotting against management and. Mr Winters, always looking for an audience, would poke his head in, and I'd say Oh you here to fix the plumbing and he become a plumber and we do twelve minutes I would just sit there interviewing Jonathan winters. Thinking to myself I'm playing straight man for Jonathan winters. and then the big story involving Tex was I was dating a girl at the time named Christine Greco. And Christine who I met when I was in welcome back Kotter Christie's one of the classroom extras and They're going about three years and one Donka past that I was no Sturdier to welcome back Kotter for year. Yeah, I did that for for this is this is back with. Nobody would hire me right cartoons. I was running live action. If. You can call that live action and it was. It was a cartoon in. It was have it was an amazing experience. My first tape day at welcome back Kotter. I'm now changing stories in midstream here. we had on the set Lee Grant because her daughter was in the episode Valerie Harper and Richard Shaw. Daughter was in the episode across the hall. They were taping a special of Righty, special and I got trapped in the elevator with a heavy duty and Elliott Gould. And then at one point, we had a visitor on the set. Who is going to do a cameo? And that was a man named Groucho Marx. He showed up on the set that day and I thought. Well, this is this is the most interesting day of my life. Thank you. Anyway I was going with Christine for. Sake weighing back to the Christine Story. was going through the for three years and. One day I mentioned to her that I was a big fan of this band leader that I thought she probably never heard of names Spike Jones and she said oh I'm call spike. And I went. You never told me Spike Jones was your uncle. She said you never asked me. Her name was Christine Greco. Herat was Helen. GEICO who had Americanized Greco to GEICO and I, said to her. Because I was been thinking of writing this book about Spike. Jones I said. Spike Jones personal papers and effects and things. She says Oh there in the garage next to your car. And I went out there. You're looking at me like I'm making this up. It gets weirder. It gets weirder so we pox is full of Spike, Jones sheet music, and these things that Spike Jones mass produced to give the disc jockeys, little little, charge keys and souvenirs and and naughty. They were like he would press a clean version of his record albums, and he played press limited press with naked women on the cover, so the disc has got the naked women. Copies of the of the records name some of those in there. and there were a bile animation style storyboards. 'cause he when he was doing his live action TV show in the early fifties, he would hiring cartoonists to do the gag sketches, and they would do the storyboards sketches, and the top pile was by tex avery, and the next pile down was by artist. I didn't recognize and the next pile down. Look to me. kind of like Virgil parts that rate magazine cartoons, Virgil part, but I think it will. I can't virgil part. And she gave them to me, so the following Monday took them into my office, and I walked in and Texas sitting there with an older man I didn't recognize and I said Hey tex you over these, and he did an honest to God tex avery. Take the WOLF IV giant eyeballs body pieces flying apart. Job hitting the floor. And he started talking about God I loved working for Spike and I, said now. These are all by you here. He said yes. Who did these couldn't identify at all? He said Oh. That's Roy. Williams Who Roy Williams was even Mickey Mouse that's right and I said. You've got to trust me. This is true I said to him now. These looks my favorite drum by verge. And he turned to the man. He was sitting list Virgil. You remember doing these. He had you know he had virgil parched there. and. That's the scene in. Any Hall. Yes, I just tend to have Marshall McLuhan right here. Who in right? Yes. Yes, you and I did that. One time. Leonard if you remember this, we were at a screening of some. And some guy was holding for talking about movies, and I told him he was wrong, and he said well let it says it's like this, said Leonard, Chimera Second. I, just have Leonard Maltin right here. But. Hanna Barbera was a fascinating place to work stuff like that happened all the time. I don't know how long this podcast is going to be could tell two hours of. Weird coincidences and people fighting and people getting all worked up over cartoons and strange things happening. We had a hooker. There was the there was a hooker on Choline Boulevard, who was servicing clients in the bushes outside my office and Joe Barbera would come into. Watch her an incumbent on the limited animation out there there was A. Time. Realize when I read Jo's autobiography. Bill Joe wrote books and when I read Joe's on a biography. I I don't know how I had not received this fully. But he wrote with a pencil. He drew all the storyboards and all the thumbnail sketches for those Tom and Jerry cartoons. and was a phanom cartoons. Just extraordinary, an incredibly fast. And in addition to being the world's greatest salesman's mark says. He. He could sell material because he could illustrate. and. And so I- contrived to do an interview with with Freddie tape tonight. I checked you into. See Him the first guy that yet. Then subway to promote his books. I went back with an E., T. crew and use that as a complete cover. Fairly transparent I. Guess having do a drawing for Tom and Jerry. And he did it and it wasn't action foes. He staged action post on the first. Try Note preliminary drunk just. Start to finish. On Camera. It was amazing I'll tell you Joe Barbera stales. MANSHIP story. During the golden years ahead of Berber was telling you know eleven shows that time every place when they were literally on Saturday morning, competing with themselves on all three networks these agent who was representing them was a man named Cy Fisher. Who doesn't get hailed a lot and Hanna barbera history, but he was the the agents sold all those shows enclosed all those deals, and he was a great agent, lovely man, and would take Joe Barbara into the network, and I would sit on the couch and laugh at everything Joe, said, and did. And just be a good audience and then at the proper time. When the network has said yes, we like this idea. Siwa would go. Oh, look Joe Relate for meeting. Let's get out of here and he would leave you leave when you make the sale, and then you close the sale and you come back. You don't stay in the room, because because you might unsettle it. You must do something to unsettle the show at that point, so joe is pitching all these ideas and he's got this what he's got that what? Did the kind of Pitching that Danny Simon. Neil's brother was famous for of changing the pitch based on people's. Facial expressions, he would say say now. There's to set my west. They look cutted. West Los Angeles, and edit it takes place in the Stone Age puzzle. He'd go. Why don't mean like in the actual stone-age? I mean like a long time ago in America, he would just keep changing the pitch. It's a variation on what psychics called cold reading where they they watch your face, and they they eventually pit you what you WanNa hear based on your expressions. He pitches all these things. And at one point, the head of NBC specials is laughing enough. He says okay. We got it by two hours of this and Saigo. Oh, look at time. We're late for a meeting and they get the hell out of the office there in the hallway and Sisa. Joe, congratulations you did it again Joe and Joe said which showed, did they buy? Don't remember which one they bought and sizes I'm not sure either, but I'll call them tomorrow. We'll close the deal. We'll find out what you sold. The next day he calls the people NBC and they say listen we will, of course honor our commitment, but we're not sure what show we bought. And Joe Barbera had had. Had done, the impossible had actually gone in and got to our network commitment for nothing. He's the head sold nothing to them. And they made the deal, and they went back and had to figure out what they would do for the two hours. So. August from right? Yeah, that's that's that's Joe. Barbera. He'd. He could do that thing that were in the in the early sixties when burberry was blossom, even throughout the sixties Anna Berber became the business model that every automation student wanted to emulate every guy in the world who who'd been on the same level they were when they did the Tom and Jerry's guys. Guys at Warner Brothers, and guys at at Walter Lantz and guys anywhere every studio everybody accepted Disney people was trying to follow that business model and have a big factory sold eleven shows to the networks, and nobody could do it the them and that was because bill. Hanna was absolutely brilliant at figuring out how to do animation for a dollar ten. And Joe Barbera was incredible salesman. They had divided the. Job Up Barbera sold. It Hanna handled the animation part of it, and almost every cartoon student that popped up was of was a variation on that the Ruby Spears, studio Joe Ruby was the Joe Barbera and Ken Spears was the Bill Hanna and film -Ation Lucia Mer was the Joe Barbera and Norm Prescott. Was the bill Hanna and at the Patty freeling Patty was the sales. Guy And freeling bruce the show it was. It varies a little bit, but there was always that disconnect and nobody succeeded like Halliburton ever did. Offer that building. Iam. Not, but not to the point where I gave the money when they're when they were trying to raise money to salvage thought I thought I thought maybe somebody at time. Warner could write a larger check than I could. They, have they had at what we now call a mid century modern? No, that was so fifties early sixties. It couldn't have been built or any other time now. Did you. The strange thing about it was that the that at least on the first floor, the walls were kind of modular. There were easily rearrange. -Able so if they fired you. Not only did you disappear, but so did your office it literally? It was no more office. The Guy I I worked for their. I went to see him a couple of times. And then the next time I went back and he was gone. His office was literally the reception area. They've changed. They had moved the entrance. And now you went into a different door and his office was now he there was no trace of him or his physical office. Now how did you? How did you hook up with Jim Davis? Get involved with a Garfield. Well after I kind of. Got Out of doing. A Hanna Barbera. hanna-barbera! Exclusive in my entire writing career, which is close to fifty one years next month. I have never been exclusive to anyone source of income. I've had to all the schools today one woman during that time. The. The while I was looking for Albert was also working for Ruby. Spears, did couple of things for marvel and a couple of things for Disney and I was just going around and I got the reputation for writing pilots scripts. I, wrote. Quite a few pilots became shows for all the different networks took my name off. The rear. These shows existed for the purpose of selling the series. Yes well good you. You didn't make your actually film a pilot. You would write the pilot script you right what they called the Bible which is a pretty pretentious term for something about cartoons and. You tell who the characters were, and how they interacted, and you'd put in some plot ideas, and so it's a written selling piece for why this show is GonNa be neat terrific what it's about at you'd write an episode, and then you'd have all these big giant Borg's full of artwork by the best guys who wouldn't actually be working on the show, they David Dazzle them this artwork. That looks like fantasia quality artwork, and then when the show came in, it would look like you know you know. Something Jay Ward would have rejected and. So I did a bunch of pilots I. You get an a groove like this. If you sell a couple of shows that everybody wants you to write their pilots because you sold a couple of shows, and if you keep getting hired, you sell a couple more shows so I did about. I did maybe thirty to forty pilots groups of which about ten or eleven soul, which is pretty good at batting average. I took my name off. Several of them but CBS had come to me and they want to do. A Michael Jackson cartoon show Michael Jackson's people not Michael Jackson mind you. The people who are around him who handled his merchandising such. They sold CBS idea of doing a Michael Jackson cartoon show for kids because you know who knew kids. Michael Jackson, and I had to go out and meet with Michael. Who is trying to get out of the deal at the same time? At least so finally reached the point where I said this show is never going to work. I went to CBS and I-. I- moonwalked off Michael Jackson Project. And I just said. This is not going to work, or if it can I'm not the guy to do it I'll give back the money. You've paid me already, please. Give it to somebody else and ended up killing the whole project but the meantime they said instead of giving back the money mark. How would you feel about writing a Garfield pilot script for a pilot for Garfield cartoon show. And I said sure I love Garfield and I said. You want me to go meet with Jim Davis. Would you like me to? Go No no just right. Just you got the Garfield Comics I said Guy Collect the paperback books, and they said just write a script for this, so I went okay for. You know so I I. Don't get back the money, so I was living as I do now within walking distance of CBS, and I walked home from that meeting, which I walked and I walked through farmers market stopped at the bookshop and bought the rest of the Garfield paperbacks game home. Write a script delivered. It's a CBS and the lady. They're lovely. Woman named Judy Price who was a brilliant network executive. Then there have not been a lot of brilliant network executives and children's programming. She was one of the few and. She said is okay I i. don't even read this do I. Can just send this to Jim Davis? And I said if you want to. And and I said you know what. Why don't you just buy the show? She still I want to buy the show he won't. Sell us the show. We want to Garfield on Saturday morning. He's a star. People love him, but Jim won't do it. Because Jim doesn't think anybody, but he could write the character to his satisfaction and he doesn't have time to write. A Saturday morning series so I wanNA prove to him that somebody else can write it. So I think so he's GonNa hate me. He's Jim Davis. I wouldn't have done it if I'd known. This! Well I. Just you know he's you know. Hey. Mr Davis I can write your character as well as you can. That's effect what I was saying. So I went home and two days later phone rings, and it's somebody said please hold for Jim Davis. And he came on the line and said okay. Well I guess somebody else can write the character the way I want and the show was, and he sold the show to them on the condition that I write all of them that I write every episode and they had to. We had a two year commitment, and before the two years were up, they extended it for four more years and turnage from a half hour into an hour, and it was highest rated show for like eight years. And I wrote, or Co wrote all hundred and twenty one half hours of it of my direct, the voices of most of them and. It was one of the best express ever had Joe Barbera spent his innocence. You know most of his life complaining about network interference. We had zero network interference Garfield I. Just wrote I wanted we recorded them they animated, and then the network saw them and went. Hey, that's good episode. Do do more like that. So and and because he directed the the were sessions you got to Loy. All the people you really liked and admired and had always wanted me will yes I almost everybody I could who was in? It's a mad, mad, bad madwoman. So which is which is my favorite I? Always call it I. Don't think it's the best movie ever made. It's just my favorite. Everybody understands that distinction, so we had episodes. We had don knotts we had Arnold Stang. We had Marvin Kaplan. We had Lennie Weinrib. We had Buddy Hackett. We had Jonathan Winners I'm thinking another half dozen. Those kinds of Jesse White you know and I also got to work with all the great animation voice. People that I loved who were available. Not all of them were I. Build a Dr Dos Butler was not on the show Dawes would have been on the show, but he was having some medical problem I booked him and he called me three or four days before the. according session, he said I'm having trouble with my peripheral vision I, can't he? John Dawson had a stroke. And he'd come back from the stroke. In fact, the first thing he did when he came back from the stroke was that Yogi, bear special I wrote that I mentioned earlier but he was having trouble reading ahead and part of his brilliance was that he would look at the page, and he understand the entire line, and it was bad for him. If you only read a couple of words, he couldn't read ahead and he asked if I would let him out of the booking. And I said, of course we should do it for another time and he passed away before he could. But that day I called an agent to voice agent I knew and said listen I, need someone. to replace Dawes Butler at two starring parts. He was going to do and the guy said You know who's in town. One of our clients of our New York offices in town Larry. Storch and I said give me Larry. Stories and we got Larry Storch on this show. We had. Only a brilliant media. One of the biggest vocal mimics. Whoever your? You'll, you'll appreciate this. He came in, and he had not done voice in a cartoon show for maybe ten or fifteen years, and he pulled out his wallet this this tattered, frayed, little car. which in little tiny lettering he'd written, or someone had written all the impressions he did all said he said it handed me the Cardi said all the voices I'd our impressions I do know original voices. I can do these for you. Anybody who wants to look at the card and it's like Frank Morgan was on there of course, and and all these character actress did and Dawes is going to do to voices for me. One of them was going to be a fast talking salesman where I wanted to produce his Hokey Wolf. Phil, silvers type voice, and the other was a stuffy businessman. When I was! Hanging out with Dawes and taking them to lunch, and just loving this man who was so wonderful, he would occasionally tell me stories about. Stand working with Stan Freberg and he would do a Stan Freberg impression. That was hysterical to me I'd heard it. He never used it in any cartoon, so I said. I want you to come in and do Stan Freberg. On the show later on, we got the real Stan Freberg, another mad world person to be on Garfield, but at that time we hadn't had the real Stanford in so Dawes's GonNa come, and he's going to do the Freyberg voice for the businessman. So I said to Larry Okay I. Want Phil Silvers for the fast talking salesman, and I looked over the list and I tried to pick somebody from the play the stuffy businessman I had an idea and I said. I want you to oppression of someone who's not on this card. And he said I only do the people on card. I said I'll bet you you do this person. 'cause you worked with him Billy de Wolfe. and His face lit up. They did a TV series. That is lost to the ages. You can't find a copy to save your life called the Queen and I. It was a short, lived series on CBS about like a love boat. I think this is way before the love boat where where Billy Dewolf was the captain. Larry storch was the bumbling. Ensign pulver type guy who always screwed everything up. and Larry got so thrilled. That, he said yes, I can do billy to wolf, and he did Billy de Wolfe on the cartoon, and after it aired, people were calling me saying. How did you get billy to wolf to be cartoon I said well I went out to. The cemetery dug him up. Billy had passed by this point. Anyway but we had people like that on the show we had Dick beals on the show. Dick beals CD alcohol. Yeah yeah a little a lovely. There's no way to talk about using the term little a little man who worked all the time and mostly re dubbing children a lot. He was heard an awful lot of movies redone, child actors and he would do. It, okay little creatures and stuff like that and we had on a James Earl. Jones is according to the next session to us next door and he came over to south. We're doing. He said being a cartoon and I said I think we can arrange that, so we had James. Earl Jones cartoon. We had episode Oh. I you the one I really loved. Lee, Mendelson, our executive producer was willing to spend money. This is what you love it. Executive Producer, who who's who never says that costs too much. I said I want to go to New, York and do some people back there. I WANNA record some New York wastes actor so so I i. would to my own for something else, but he paid for the studio back there and for the connection to record. Actors bicoastal. We had the the core cast in a studio in Los, Angeles. And Lee and I was in New York with three different people. A new york-based actors one was Arnold Stang who I mentioned? And another one was imaging coca who we had on the show. I got to take her out to Broadway that night. And you know, and then we had Eddie Lawrence. The old. The old philosopher who I loved dearly, he was in a couple of episodes I. Get their Arnold Stang as waiting for me already. He was like an hour early for recession, and he looked exactly like Arnold Stang and he sounded exactly like Arnold. Stang and I said Oh I've got Arnold Stang for an hour because the engineers weren't going to be ready, so talked about. It's a mad, mad, mad, mad, world and top hat for an hour. You may find this hard to believe but Arnold Stang actually had had stories about Milton, Berle not being the nicest person in the world I don't I. Don't know how that could be possible so. We finish with our as as we're faced with are letty. Lawrence comes in, and they waved to each other, and then when Arnold comes out of the booth unity, hug and Arnold says to. Eddie now Eddie. Don't get this man in H.. Young mandate trouble I was a young man, and he said he knows he's a great director and he knows what he's doing. Don't give a crap. Just do what he says and don't cause trouble, and Eddie says don't worry. I WON'T CAUSE TROUBLE AND ARNOLD TURNS MINI. Says says now if he gives you any trouble. You've got my pager number. Call me. I'll come back here and kick his ass. Ago Okay Fine So. He left, and we started doing the session anytime. Eddie got a little out of line. I'd say I'll call Arnold Arnold go. No, no, no, don't do that. But, I i. just you know these guys. I grew up with those voices I grew up with. I used to listen to Eddie Lawrence records over and over and over. And and I was one of the very few people ever wrote. An old philosopher bit for him to do in public he he actually did my lines. and. I I WanNa Brag. On mark for. Not only has he done all this stuff and more? But he did heroic and really touching things for older performers when they were no longer at their best, and needed work or one at work, not not not really needed it, but they needed. Secondly you know the you know the nourishment of having something to do and being still being you know a call off. To use their gifts a one example I know was when the hamburger studio revived the jets. Georgia Hamlin. New. I didn't I didn't know him personally. I did not know jurors for you. You you apparently did. and. He'd had a stroke. But he hadn't lost complete use of his voice. But he was impaired. And it wasn't going to be easy to record him. But Marks Talk Joe Barbera. Maybe bullied. No, let me let me tell the story letter because you had more of a role in it than you're admitting here. I was working in Richie rich at the time. And you called me and said it says papers that they're casting a new essen show. and. I got you had spoken to Mrs Oh Hamlin. and. She told you. Why haven't they call Georgia? Georgia's here. You sit around the House all day, so you called me and I said I don't know. Let me find out and I walked down I. Just put on the phone. I walked down to the Office of Gordon Hunt who was the head of voice to renting for Hanna Barbera and I said how's the casting learn for the jetsons? And he said great I said. Have you signed George Jetson yet, and he said not yeah, we undecided. You know who did a great audition Don Mesic. Did a very good facsimile of Georgia Hamlin. And I said why didn't you call? George, O'Hanlon and Gordon says well. He died years ago I said No, he didn't. Here's his phone number. Handed him the phone number you give me you give me George O'Hanlon's phone number, so Gordon looks at me like. Okay this is a trick. This is mark's got some friend who wants to audition at the other end of this phone line. I'll play along with it. So he dials it kind looking at me like all right I'll go along with this, and and I could hear. I could hear I'll he goes. And he looks at me like. That's him he goes. Mr Bohannon my name's Gordon Hunt I'm the head of voice directing for Hanna Barbera I owe you the world's biggest apology. They had told me you'd passed away and he says I'm fine I'm here anyway, so they're talking and. Then Gordon put it on the speaker phone so I can hear it, and he sounds. He sounded George that point had good days and bad days. He sounded like himself most days, but not all and he sounded like himself that day and Gordon keeps them talking to keep listening to a woman just listening to this edition. He doesn't realize it, but he's auditioning and finally Gordon says Mr Hanlin. Could you possibly come in here to the? The Hanna Barbera studio so I could roll some tape on you and you up to all the executives, and I will get you the job of doing George Jetson on this show there at that point. They were GONNA do forty new episodes. I I think they're gonNA. Wind up doing more than that, but forty episodes even at Union scale is a heck of a lot of money for a guy who hasn't worked in ten years. So he said, l., Hanlin said I think you should know that I'm almost blind. I'm legally blind that. I can't see some days and Gordon. Said we can work with that. and I WANNA. and He. said. I don't have anybody here to to drive. My wife is out at the shopping and he said I will send driver for you. He was Gordon was like I got a nail this down right away. This is an also. He was thinking if I, get them and right now he sounds good. Maybe he won't another day. So I volunteered to go pick them up, but they didn't want me to go. Because of insurance, they wanted to bear employees who would be covered by their insurance? So this kid drove went over and I briefed the kid who he was picking up. I said this. Let me tell you hold on. Let me tell you who you're picking up. This is George Jetson this. I told him about George O'Hanlon. Was Joe Dokes, the. Yeah and I and he drove her and then about. Forty five minutes later I go down the hall and they're sitting in. Gordon Hunts offices Georgia'll Hamlin and I got to meet him and talk with them a little bit. I didn't I'm talked too much didn't want to blow his voice out. And then he goes in, he records sounds absolutely. The way it worked was that Gordon had to feed them the lines because he really couldn't read the paper. They put some big print of. They're still didn't work, so Gordon would go. Jane I'm home Johann would say Jane. I'm home and if Gordon wanted another t Takehiko Jane home and he. And George what imitate the rhythm the cadence. Of Gordon's reading and Save Spice Gordon Out, and they had a perfect addition. And then Gordon went to bat. He's the one who convinced the Hanna barbera executives. There wasn't Joe Joe didn't care, but there are other people who said it's GonNa take you forever to record. The shows is gonNA. Take you three times as long and Gordon Hunt and he was a lovely man, and this is why he was such a loved Gordon, hunt dearly, he said Helen Hunt's father, for those people are interested He said okay, so it takes me three times as long. I'll spend the extra time to do it and Georgia'll Hamlin. To go out a working actor. He died while they were doing the pickups for the jetsons feature, and he left his widow, the residuals from forty five fifty new episodes of the jetsons and from the feature, and he left his Co... He didn't exactly die onstage. He died, and he was stricken with a recording session, but You know that's the way these guys would love to go out rather than setting the last ten fifteen years their life in a nursing facility, or in the old actors home or you know sitting there, you know talking to other guys. Saying saw Burton was the manager of the Balasko you know that's Yeah, so so you deserve Leonard. You deserve. I couldn't have done any you. You're the one who said emotion. You follow up using. You make a good team. Yes, well, you know. There is a certain amount of ageism in the television business. Yes and I didn't see why. I shouldn't be allowed to use Stan Freberg on a cartoon show or I did one session where I had three actors and wheelchairs. I had Stan Free Bird Marvin Kaplan Jack Riley. Doing, Bill chairs and when we had rose Marie. Like show did her last ever. Acting job on the Garfield. It's in that documentary. About her. There's a scene from in there. and. She was in a wheelchair also. She's fine June foray. Sister was a very strange the nation and we had June for A. And I used a lot of those people because. You know I just they were perfectly fine Marvin Kaplan. was absolutely fine. If we spent them up about three percent, he was a little slow little, so we just put them in. And we pitched him up and sped them up at three percent, or so, and he sounded exactly like the Marvin Kaplan of of his youth. So. A little bit about comecon because I I people that is on you. It's gotten to. That happens. Well, as you know this year, there is no comic con. The last year when there was no COMECON was the year I got out of high school nineteen, sixty nine. At in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, when the first one happened I was one of three hundred or so people who attended and I have been at every single one sense. I am six people to our knowledge who have been to every one of them. And it's an then then about twenty people who bend all but one part of that will six group and I watched it grow from, you know. We had three hundred people at the first one now. There's three hundred people heading online at the men's room. Yeah. Three hundred are addressed as polly Quinn some of them, even women and it's gotten bigger and bigger and bolder around the fifth or sixth one I. Don't Know Kelly exactly my mentor. The genius I got to work for Jack Kirby. Said of COMECON. This thing is going to get so big. It's GonNa. Take over the city and it will be where Hollywood goes every year to sell the movies. They made last year and to find out what they're going to make next year. And Jack was a lovely man, but every so often he'd say something like that and we would all go Yorkshire now happen yeah. Like humoring someone you love when they said something silly silly, and then ten years later fifteen years we go. Jack was right again. Exactly. and we washed. And I found my usefulness. There was hosting panels so every year. I host a dozen or more panels. Fifteen. I actually won that year. I hosted to simultaneously I ran back and forth. Rooms and ask questions of them And because I don't like unlike other people who do comments I don't like sitting behind a table. Signing my name. Little quirks. I don't like selling things. I don't want to sit behind the table I don't WanNa. Be You know trolling for autographs? And and I felt. The Fun of being able to help though the programming and the panels. We bring voice after all the time. To started doing cartoon voice panels very popular, and we invented this thing called quick draw, which Leonard has been a part of a couple of times. Where the cartoonists are drawing like crazy fast stuff based on audience suggestions and I get to also and again the same theme here. we get to honor the old timers of the business. The guys who worked in comics. We've pretty much run out of them. Used to have a we used to have a thing called the golden age panel, which I would host, which would be five or six people who were in comics in the forty S, and that'd become in the or fifties. Then it became just fifties, and now we got rid of it completely and we have a panel. Who worked in the seventies, because just were not enough people from the forties and fifties, even sixties Philip panel out. But in the day milk Hud. You're not getting yourself. Remark, that's the thing. Well, I don't I don't deserve a lot of credit for doing something I liked. No, it's no Jesse it's it's These are things you you do because they please you and please. Other people s the bonus. Leonard is an example of someone who turn his it. His hobby into his career. If Leonard hadn't been able to monetize eating film and he was working. You know at a You know a subway sandwich place making sandwiches. He was still go home and write about movies at night. He was still be he give four stars to the sandwiches and declare certain ones bombs, but he would still it's part of him, and if you can make your living off it so much the better, because then you end up with a big house looks like a museum for what you love, and we all have those big houses museums for what we love and but You know I I. I I. Go to Comecon to please me. Please me to do the panels and to host things. I used to go down and interview. Ray Bradbury every year. which was One of the great thrills of my life. Ray Bradbury was very helpful to me when I was starting my writing career he he encouraged me. He sat me down and he talked to me. Seriously, he gave me a couple of hours of his time advising me not about stories or how to write a plotter. About how to think like a writer how to? Kind of work habits. You need to have the way to approach your work. Very useful hands on advice, and then years later. he he liked. He liked to go to the COMECON every year and he liked to give a talk, but he likes to be an interview format because he'd never do where to start so. And this is ray is in his eighties. WHO's in a wheelchair for most of these and. He asked me to be the guy so I would go down every year and raise deal ray came to. was the first San Diego Okon that I was at in nineteen seventy, and he came down most years, not all and his basically his deal with them. They made a guest of honor every year, but he would. Only he would never stay over. He would get up Saturday morning early and he decided to i. feel like going to the comecon today. Ticker Saturday, and if he didn't he'd, he'd have somebody. Call up and say raise not coming this year if he did, he had somebody to drive him down because he didn't drive, and they would come to me around nine or ten in the morning, and they'd say either panels off, or he's on his way. And he would get there around eleven am and he'd. Go through the dealers room and book. He loved to look at the comments. He loved the pulp magazines and stuff like that and people recognize him, and he'd sign autographs he was. He was very wonderful. With is public. And that two o'clock. I would him in the Green Room upstairs with guests of honor were and we hang out together for half an hour. two thirty. We'd go in front of at that. When we first time I did at the room had six thousand seats at it and we darn near filled it. And we get them up there. And I had learned. In my doing that, he really didn't respond well to brand new questions. My goal was to prompt stories I knew he had in him, and I would remember other interviews. He'd given her speeches. He's given I call Harlan Ellison, our mutual friend and say tell me another story. Ray Bradbury's got left at harmless. Oh, ask him about this and I'd ask him about that and I would sit there watching. As this gripping the most interesting speak public speaker. I've ever. Did you ever erase bradberry speak? Yeah. And I look out and I would think to myself. Look at the audience I think I wish I had a stand outside selling ray Bradbury books. because. This place is full of people who just became Ray Bradbury fans. Parents who brought their kids and the kids were mesmerized by looking with these wide like Walter Keane paintings at at at the US absorbing and hanging on his every word, these stories, and in the course of an hour he would tell four or five fabulous stories, and at the end the audience would explode and. Cheer Him and the hardest part of my job helping him get out of the room. They bring security guards, security guards, I would fight to get off the stage and out of the room, and he would still want to sign autographs for anybody who wanted them. It was just an amazing thing. Never lost his sense wonder. I think that's that's Arctic. What characterize him. Yes. We he was still a lot of people. We know why people in animation youthful. He. On the outside. He made looked. But inside in his head, he was still useful in outlook his approach. And frankly who's been to your. Quick, drop panels and see Nicole like Sergio or Norman who is one hundred percent Benjamin Button AG backwards Floyd for those who don't know was. A, basically, the first black animator to work at Disney. he was, he signed on. I think for sleeping beauty. And he was there through jungle book, and he was there, Mary poppins and two others, and released this with him as he is, anybody wants to learn more about Lloyd. We interviewed him for North. Norman Storman Yeah. And he drew from when I was doing the comic books for had our Barbara. He was one of the artists working there and I got them to drop on books again which he hadn't done for many years. lovely man, and You know we. We're talking about how we've lost a lot of people that generational floyd is still around. I think he's in every single documentary. Someone wants to talk to someone who who worked under Walt. Disney directly. Sergio is is your. Are U2 in your quick draw panels this the reason that I wanted to allow me to compliment you hit because. has become a thing that can be a lot about movies. Allegation series you really keep. The comic aspect lies whether it's interviewing those voice actors that we all grew up with and most people don't know a lot of their names. You, know. Chris you talk about Mel Blake to me and I die because I know who he was, and what he met in the same way that you mentioned in artists like taxation. Oh, God, that's might my childhood. But you getting folks up there whether it's mad magazine people. All these different animators cartoonists, it is such a pleasure, and I think the reason why. Is because there are people who actually wants to go much like those of us who love to wander around artist's alley. That's my favorite part I wanna see the artists with so much fun is getting to see these people and also get a sense of their humor. And the the way you and Sergio work together. It is so damn, funny and I watched. You didn't handle many times. They're always. They're always one sure. Sergio is my best friend in the mail division, and we've been working together now for close to half a century and we talk we talk every day. He comes over with when whatever this whatever there's no pandemic. He comes and visited this. AD. We get along great and. It's fun. The three rules of monitoring panel one is. When you introduce someone you always end with their name. You don't say and here's Larry to Malton. The wonderful film story say. WOULD YOU WELCOME MR? Wonderful homeless Mister Leonard Maltin you. Give them an applause moment a clean moment to say this is where you applaud the purse. The other thing is never ask a question. That ends with the phrase. What was that like? That's just lose people. You know so, so you worked on this movie. What was that like an day? You're you them to be given them too many choices. And the third thing is. That when somebody says something really if you're near the end of the time, if you're doing a forty five minute panel, and it's forty one minutes in and somebody said gives a saying. It's got a great applause line, or a great, big laugh, or just sums up his life. Perfectly you go well. Thanks for being with US now end the panel three minutes early rather than go out on a feeble limp last line, and that's all you have to do to run a panel. Show up on time show up on time and wear pants. Just, see really good. That's all. No that's not that doesn't take skill. Any Rhesus monkey can learn to do that. Okay Bobby. Berra cities rang attains could have learned to do that. You know it's not that impossible. To do that because they're not. And you have to four thing. If you're a moderator, you have to remember. They're not there to see you. Okay? My I feel. Yeah you know the the Ray. Bradbury panels were may interviewing Rey, and they're not there to see me doing the interviewing. They're there to just get. Ray pointed in the right direction and focused and get him to two, and then when he gets to the line. You leave the applause you telling me you are going to be doing interviews, but also that you're gonNA be serve at. A virtual Kaku. Yes, we we! We've done that by cartoon. Voice Panel online on May second it's it's up on Youtube. Another one in a couple of weeks I'm GonNa, do some other panels They'll look kind of like this. I, in fact, my part of them will look exactly like this and. People are, people? Well my website might my blog. Is Www dot news from me? Dot, com me is. Matt, yes, my initials are me. What's your favorite? Book citizen. Well the one that is most prominent is Jack her King Kong. Guess, you call it a definitive. In well, I'm doing a new book on. So that makes the other one by definition, not definitive success. Near the Near. Yeah, ordering definitive. Then I'll do another book someday. Make render this one. non-definitive Jack is too big to be contained in one or two or even ten books. There's so much to write about him and. The thing I the thing that I'm proudest of. Literally today, we sent to press. The. Volume of the complete pogo the. Which I think I think was the greatest newspaper Strip ever done wall I think walt. Kelly's newspaper Strip was the greatest comic strip ever done I thought that even before I began sleeping with his daughter. I just always thought that was a wonderful strip and caroline. I decided you knew caroline very well. and. We we we not read this project to reprint the Book Strip for the first time ever in full with the Sunday pages in color. On, quality paper with beautiful design, which Caroline worked out and when she was ill, and we were GONNA lose her. She made me promise I would take over as editor from her and make all the books. The whole series come to fruition and volume seven. It's volume. Seven of twelve is is is at route to the printer. Even as we speak, we are. We're all apart of unusual admiration. Society I mean ran as readily smell, and it's been great to have you. As our remote. Yes, because you're very rarely remote. Today feels like you've been sitting here in our room with us this this John, away I am really I've got your silverware. I've stolen. We've been talking and I'm GonNa make and there's a couple of pictures of the laws you will notice missing Leonard But no I. I You know you and I became instant friends letter I, and I become friends with everybody, but you and I. The record was the fastest I ever considered someone close friend of mine I, think because we sat down one day, and we started talking about Laurel and hardy, and nothing binds to film buffs like Laurel and Hardy. We that is the that. It's impossible for me to dislike anyone who who likes Laurent Hardy. Unless, they like that movie. You liked anyway this this. But. Now it's. It's it's actually that way with a lot of these things like Pogo I get along with. Everybody loves POCO. Guy Along with people who love Stan Freberg. We'll get along with people who love her brothers cartoons. We bond on this stuff because it shows, we have certain common. Sense of humor, a certain appreciation for certain kinds of wit and insight. Yeah, I will end this by saying you don't known Sanford gets. You must look him up. You must listen to at least one of his. Song how would you describe? Comedy records listen to this into Stanford Berg presents the United States of America volume one. and. In our case, you'll never hear. Should who the same way again? So many solvay. Margot say all I have to do is think about it and I start laughing. So yeah, that's the best way we can lead. You is look into some. Stand Friedberg, genius, incredible man, who we all miss. Mark thanks again for your time. and your ever president Suzanne. Anytime. Today's episode of Maltin on movies is brought to you by legion M, the world's first fan owned entertainment company. If. You love movies as much as we do. Why not own a piece of them? Find out more at www dot legion, m dot com.

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Seth MacFarlane - 'The Orville'

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Seth MacFarlane - 'The Orville'

"Each. Hi, everyone and thank you for tuning into the two hundred seventy four episode of a wards chatter. The Hollywood reporter's awards podcast. I'm the host Scott Feinberg, m I guess today is one of the funniest smartest and most all together unusual guys in Hollywood a man who got into animation as a little kid followed his passion and at the age of just twenty four became the youngest executive producer in the history of television. When his show family guy was ordered to series by FOX over the twenty years since the show went on the air, it has been canceled and renewed twice he created other animated series for the network including American dad border town, and the Cleveland show, he became a film director with two thousand twelve Ted which until recently was the highest grossing are rated comedy not adapted from pre existing material he hosted the eighty fifth Academy Awards, and he created and starred in a live action scifi drama series for FOX that just wrapped its second season. The Orrville I'm talking. Of course, about Seth MacFarlane over the course of our conversation in the Orville writer's room in a nondescript office, building in Beverley hills, the forty five year old, and I discussed how I fell in love with and started creating animation. How close he came upon graduating from college to pursuing a career in music instead of one in Hollywood what inspired family guy and the iconic characters. He originated and continues to voice on it, including Peter Stuey and Brian Griffin. What really went down at the Oscars the night. He sang the song. We saw your boobs why after the success of his animated shows and the Ted films when he could do just about anything he decided to make an star in Star Trek like show set four hundred years in the future about a divorce captain and his first officer who still have to work together plus much more. So without further ado, let's go to that conversation. Thanks for the pre sheet. It we always begin with just a few basics where were you born and raised in. What is your folks do for a living? I was born in Kent Connecticut, and my father was a teacher. My mother was in college guidance. And I go back and try to read everything I can find from the beginning about you. And it sounds like not surprisingly animation cartoons where really early interest. But what was the first catalyst for that home? I. Home. I parent saved drawings from when I was about two years old Woody woodpeckers, Fred Flintstones, bugs Bunny's, and I would see things on television. And try to recreate them fascinated by the animation medium, I grew up with Hanna Barbera in their prime. And I was just very very curious about how they got those damn things to move. And there was very little information at the time one book, they found that was written by professor at the college eventually went to but other than that, it was kind of a mystery so drawn to pretty much from day one. And so from lodging that stuff came the interest in animation is that also were sort of a sense of humor came from or were there. Other people around the house like what was that about? Yeah. I mean, my mother's side of the family is really where the sense of humor came from. My mother had a sense of humor that would make any millennial blush. I read about one dog incident. Yeah. There was that one. And you know, my cousins were hilarious, my cousins, Mark and ship in the Genesis of Peter Griffin. And they're, you know, very New England potato sense of humor. So I grew up around all that. Right. Who was Walter crew Thanh that was the first comic strip that I did for our local newspaper in my hometown. The Kent good times dispatch as you can tell nothing really happened in that town. All just good times. How does this come about though, you're nine years old, and they're paying you to draw for the first time? I don't remember how it emerged over who made the first phone call, and it was such a small town that, you know, everybody knew everybody, and the fact that I drew these cartoons was relatively known. I mean, there's like ten people, but somehow it came to the attention of the editor of the local newspaper, and yeah, they paid me five bucks a week to do the weekly papers five bucks. A pop to do these cartoons five eventually became ten. I did it for almost a decade. I think and this was also your first brush with controversy. Right. Yes. What? When I was a kid. I was very confused fascinated and maybe a little creeped out by communion like I was in church choir. And I would go to church on Sundays. We weren't a religious family, but like the community and the choir leader was friend of the family knows like music was important. But when I would sit through these services, there were things just seemed so frigging bizarre to me and one of them was communion. I remember like turning to my mom in the middle of services that they said it's his body is that actually his body. That's disgusting. And like that's his blood drink. It just didn't seem like something that was in the best interest of one's health. If one we're trying to avoid, you know, appetite us, but you know, so I did this one panel strip that showed a guy Walter crew on taking communion and asking for fries with that. I was nine years old. That was what comedy was. The local pre sent me a note that said shame on you for insulting the almighty God. And those who love him. Oh my gosh. Year old. Yes, right excuse for a priest to write a letter, no nine. So I guess the other of the three key interests that seem to have track throughout your whole life. There's the animation there's a comedy, and there's the music with music. It sounds like it actually came by way of the comedy that comes back to this guy. You set your cousin shop, while the music, I suppose came from my father's side. He was the musician the family and my sister sings as well, and we both inherited that ability and that love my parents raised me on the classic musicals. They were more kind of folk than I kind of gravitated towards more orchestral stuff, but they were very much in the Peter Paul and Mary Rita Coolidge, set right music was a big part of my child, film, scores and particular. Yeah, was very very interested of big John Williams fan from the day that I was old enough to understand that that was special, and yeah, just gravitated to film scores. And it was really the only thing that was being offered that was new that was challenging. I could listen to big band music, and here's some pretty complex arrangements in. I was too young to really appreciate classical music, but film, scores were complex and rich and textured, and you know, on the radio, I was hearing the same crap that were here. And so, you know, it was fun stuff. But it wasn't really musically challenging was pretty simplistic by comparison. And so I would listen to these John Williams Jerry Goldsmith scores, and it was serious shit. Yeah. So we know what you're doing in your early years with the animation with Walter croutons. And all that was the comedy in the musical stuff manifesting itself in school or doing, you know, musical theater. What were you up to? I did a lot of that did a lot of again, the choir director at our local church work is like a local theatre group. And we did a lot of very odd for this young. But we did a lot of Gilbert and Sullivan. Really? Yeah. That a lot of really familiar with that stuff, and I'm happy, I did it because it was probably good for the brain, you know, nine or ten to be doing that kind of patter. And that gave way too high school. And you know, the Rodgers and Hammerstein shows we carousel. Anything goes Cole porter musical. So it's a really nice variation of different shows. So this might catch some people who were not already familiar with your interest and all this vice price because I think the kind of reflexive thing for people who know you from animation or comedy, or whatever you probably think you were the jock cool kit or whatever and high school. It sounds like I mean, I read about one thing where you recreated the bridge of the starship enterprise in your house in high school with cardboard is it possible that both things could be true very small town. Not a whole lot to do in the summer. Yeah. My sister was away from summer in Japan. So I use a room to like recreate it as a real threat three pieces of cardboard Christmas lights, but found it amusing that people associate family guy with this frat guy humor. I went to an art school. It's like first of all how many comedy writers, you know, who were frat guys like the betas like he's not the alpha. Do your fucking hallmark right for you make that assumption. No, I was very introverted. I love doing shows. I loved being on stage that part once you know, when I got off the stage. I was very introverted a little shy. And just preferred to be alone. I had my small group of friends that I was close to. But I wasn't really a big party goer, certainly was not an athlete. Yeah. That sounds like a major moment for you. And anyone else who would have been around your age who pay attention animation would have been something came around. I guess when you were high school heading towards college, and that would be the Simpsons, which I don't know prior to that how many if any animated series could have catered to both children and adult so I wonder for you how impactful as a very impactful. I mean, it was prior to the emergence of the Simpsons. I really wanted to be a Disney animator and turns out eventually I got. Only a couple months ago, but I guess technically. Now cheapo calls, but got no Disney was having their second golden era. Little mermaid and beating the beast and those films were hugely popular. And they not only reinvented the animated film, but reinvented the classic musical film music on it. Really? Nobody was doing that in the eighties a handful of them. But by the nineties, the real anything, so I was really drawn to that. But also doing stand up on the side starting in college. Yes, starting college. And those two things didn't really go hand in hand. I loved getting laughs from adults. But you know, as a cartoonist animator like it wasn't really if you're working in cartoons. You're working in kids shows couldn't do the jokes. That were really funny. I guess is the best way the things that make you laugh, and then here comes the Simpsons that completely rights the rule book and flings the door wide open for people to play on the same playing field as primetime sitcoms and working on a mission. And so it was an absolute career trajectory shift when that show came out for me, I abandon the whole Disney idea. And I remember thinking God, this is what I wanna do do one of these things. We'll so I guess you mentioned that you started stand up in college and referred till the art school. This is risky in providence. Laurie majoring in there. What was your kind of said that originally when you started there, you're thinking Disney animator, but yet so what was the focus while there? And then what was the goal at the time, you graduate folks, was animated film major. But specifically within the department could either focus on live action or animation? It was the option was open. Kind of unique situation because I had a job offer before I graduated and it was because Hanna Barbera which was still in existence as its own entity at that time had just begun this program called what a cartoon was a series of seven minute shorts. Their goal was to take animation out of the hands of the writers. And put it back in the hands of the artists which looking back. It's a happy collaboration of both results in the best product. But they're looking for green fresh untried artists. They could groom to create shows the thought of moving to Los Angeles was terrifying. I've been in Connecticut, a small town and providence, which is a relatively small city picking up a moving to LA was petrified. But the offer was just too good to pass up. So I got out of college and couple months later, I was moving out to LA to start this job. I wanted just come back to how that even happened. Because there's something that I guess was the tip of a pretty important iceberg. I guess in your life, and that would have been like. With larry. Because this is what Hanna Barbera was interesting. Right. Explain what that was the first Sita. It was really a rough very rough version of family guy. A lot of ways Rizzi was really great about not flinging out into the wild without any kind of support after you graduate. They were very active in distributing allow these films Rizzi sent my film to Hanna Barbera, which is huge for college to do that like they were massively instrumental and that connection, and your film, though, I guess like a lot of other student films would have been shown to other students while you were still at z. And you knew you had something right? Yeah. Well, it's interesting. They're wonderful people, and they were honest and critical and at the same time once they were convinced that you wanted to do what you wanna do. They would do things like send your film to Hollywood initially, the reaction was, you know, Seth this is your one chance to do that personal film that you really want to do is all yours, and I feel like you're wandering the opportunity on what is. A lot of bathroom humor. Right. Larry though, who Larry Larry is a predecessor to Peter Griffin. And they plop this thing in the senior film show. Amidst all of these much more expressive, quote, unquote, high art films, and it got laughs that was getting nice big laughs. And so I think at that point they figured all right? He's got something in mind seems to be working and and even back then there was also a talking dog. There was a talking dog. Yep. And where some of the other things not yet. Like, Stu would've yet. He did not exist yet, the concept of the CUDA ways. Yes existed. And again that was something that the Simpsons had used every once in a while. And it was something that I felt was really interesting for Ana Mason was a really interesting thing to kind of lean into a little more. And so I kind of took that and made it even that student film made it a staple of what I did. Because you look at one of my other favorite pieces of p was the far side farside was brilliant. And in many ways was the inspiration for what? Eventually became a cut away on family guy. These little one frame stories that you really can only do in that medium bright will so had that Hanna Barbera opportunity not come along as a true that you I guess where you probably would've ended up was Boston conservatory music. Yes. It would have been the end of animation. Yeah. Well, gotta mation survived as for you. Applied to their graduate program for musical theater and been accepted and the head of our offer was again, I was I was presented with a choice. And it was just no I was gonna turn that down. And so for them, you move out tell a your guess for the first time interacting with voice talent, including Adam west who will back in. And then what were some of the things they had you doing at Hanna Barbera funny at handlebar side from my own project, my seven-minute project once I was done with the only ever did voices on their other than that. It was very cliquey. They had their set of people I wanted to do more. Well, that's one of the things. I wanna ask you though. So did you grow up knowing in the same way, you knew talented with animation? Did you know you're good at voices or was that just came alive because I knew whether it was good or not? I just knew that. I knew what I wanted out of the performance, and it was a lot easier for me to go into the booth and just do it. Then it was to try and get it out of, you know, another actor, and I did like it at the time. Again, I wanted to do more. But it was. Hard to break in even within the company that I was working for. So once I finished Larry, and Steve which was short that. I did I was a writer, and I did a little bit of storyboarding. But I think they recognize okay. This guy's a better writer than is artist. Seve as I recall, there was some talk of maybe doing it as a series for Cartoon Network. It was around the same time that there was some interest from FOX in the student film. And so do remember at one point being presented with a choice. Okay. If I stick around. It's a pretty good bet that Larry, and Steve I'm gonna get a series of cartoon number or I can do this thing for FOX, which may not go anywhere. It's just a pilot presentation. And then I've kind of blown it a shot my wad. There's no coming back with FOX though. So you're working very Hatice FOX even find out about you the head of development at the time. And Hanna Barbera was brand new around the time. This happened had come in and sky Adam Shapiro who had wanted to take barrow back into the prime time business. And he said this student film ears is kind of the most likely candidate. I wanna take you over to FOX and introduce you to some people, and you know, the time I'd never been on an actual studio lot. I was like hell the some common. He made as he was directing me where to go over on PICO. And he was like it's gonna be a big mural over there. It's going to be to buck Rogers fighting swords with captain Kirk, and I get there, and I'm like, oh, it's Star Wars. That's what he was trying to commute. And you were there to meet with their heads of alternative comedy. What did they see this kind of crazy idea of the New England guy with his talking dog and whatever else, and what do they say you're like twenty three twenty four. I was probably twenty three at that time. I had a packet with me had a layout of the Stuey had emerged by that point. So I had the other characters sketches of them descriptions and story ideas, but that was about it. But the only thing that was on film was the student project. So I went in pitched it they said, we'll give you a budget of like, forty grand to do a pilot and keep in mind. Now, it's what is it like eight hundred grand after cost. So I said, yes, yes. I'll figure out a way to do it spent six months because working at Hanna Barbera still go home, and after our and animate, and you know, utilize my degree, and it was a little serendipitous because at the Time Warner brothers. It was Turner and Time Warner that were merging. And so there was a lot of free time where nobody really knew what to do with a lot of us like they knew they had to have a talent will there to make shows, and you know, they needed animators they need writers. But there was a lot of downtime. So that did help, and you know, the NFC months brought it in shell of a man. Hadn't slept in half a year. And the and I remember falling asleep at the wheel almost driving off the road when living the pilot. Yeah, I was just like. But I was hell bent on Meghan the most of this opportunity. So I turned it in and they liked it. And they said, yeah, we wanna make a series. So that time I was twenty three or twenty four youngest APN television. Right. That's what they tell me and just on a day-to-day basis. How did your life change? I think I read about a call to your mom that would have been cool knows my mother who called and said, oh, I hurt your show got picked up she I hadn't heard, and she's if you looked up online like I guess back then pass for the internet, and yes, she was right. But the biggest change I can remember is that I was able to get a credit card. No one would give me a credit card and literally overnight I sign this overall deal with Twentieth Century Fox, and suddenly I can get a credit card on my guys in college on the credit card people came to campus and people were signing up. I was like these suckers, no way, I'm getting. I know what happens go into debt instantly, and you're in the whole no way. And this guy I'm walking away. You know, it's like guy. Vegas walks away with five bucks. I'm recognize the value of money. But what I stupidly didn't realize. Oh, no credit is worse than bad credit? When I got out of college and got into my twenties ahead. No credit card was paying cash or checks for everything got last time. I guess that was the problem. But can you explain their original vision for what this would be for? It sounds like they were planning to do with your program. I don't know if it was yet called family guy, what the Simpsons were originally going to do for the Tracey Ullman show. Just like little inserts right for mad TV. Yeah. You were going to be for Matt we're using the Tracey Ullman model, and they were gonna be little inserts for Matt TV, and what they have me do was an exit got you've done your research than jogging stuff in my memory that I guess that's what journalists used to do. It's actually look things up beforehand breath of fresh air. You are. Yeah. That's right. It was four segments that we're going to air on mad TV as little like three minute pops. But they had to linked together to form one story, which would be the pilot to see if the show. That's right. And Joe was good enough to go to series, right? And so was it ever used in that way? Or was you know, they were enthusiastic enough about it that they said we're just going to go straight to series of this. So we're coming up now on twenty years. I guess we've passed the actual twenty year. Mark sense family guy. I premiered after the Super Bowl ninety nine January. How exciting was that? And at the time where you had testing a big audience or I mean, because I think what people may not realize because the fact that you're still here twenty years later, and it's popular and people are enjoying it. Everybody knows about it. They may not remember or know what those I like three years were like, so I wonder if you can just take us from it goes. On the air. And then what those next three years and tailed it was the ninety. So it was still economically. It was a very different experience than it would be now. I mean, I remember FOX flying a whole mess of their talent and executive producers on the FOX jet to see the Super Bowl, which they were broadcasting that year, which is something I can't imagine anyone like nowadays. Forget it lucky to get a ticket. And I remember having a little portable TV with the Lantana that on the bus that took us all back from the Super Bowl after it was over. I was sitting in one of the seats watching the premiere on this little tiny screen, and it was you know, it was pretty cool. It was pretty cool, and I had no expectations because I didn't have anything to compare it to part of me thought. Hey, this could be a massive massive hit. And then another part of me thought I could be back working my old job right tomorrow. I don't know. What's gonna happen? We'll so it seems like as would be expected when you premier right out of the Super Bowl initially the ratings were crate, but was it legitimate when they would site in fall two thousand and then again in the spring of two thousand two that the ratings were the reason that they pulled you and also just like it's unheard of that you would get cancelled once brought back cancelled again brought back that period of ups and downs. How did you process that? It was my first time doing this. I didn't have the advantage of having worked on other shows and having a sense. Of how all this work. I had learned half hour primetime writing as I went along. Luckily, you know, I'm somebody who does like to surround myself with people who I know are experts at their job who can make the overall project bettering I met with some EP's. And there was a guy David sucker Mun who I really sparked to and helped me develop the show and he'd come off king of the hill. And I learned the basics of that style of writing from him and from the writing staff, but I really had no clue to me at the time. It was like, oh just gotta be joke joke as long as people are laughing. And the idea of story structure was seemed so peripheral is so tential to what was really important. So that was very educational. You know, that first three years was again, there was nothing to compare it to when we got cancelled the first time it wasn't technically cancellation the outgoing president of FOX was kinda dumb with it. And the new incoming president said, hey, wait a minute. There's actually Gail Berman who came in and said, I think there's still life to this thing. She picked it up for another season. Even she couldn't save it. By the end of season three, and it was gone and we've gone for two years. But at the time, I was never left out in the cold. Twentieth. Was very clear at the time that they said, listen, we like you. We like what you do. We like your voice, we only Aleve. We're not going to do anymore with family guides dead. It's gone. Forget about it. But we want you to create something else for us. And so I developed a pilot a multi camp called Simon with Jack Kenny and Brian Hargrove and that didn't go anywhere. And by that time ideal was almost up and also around that time that the family guy DVD's for selling really, well and the reruns on dull swim doing really well. And so just as I was about to be out of a job the way, Gary Numan word, it was we kinda wanna sneak this thing back into production. Could you believe that? And I mean, I was watching what was happening in watching the popularity and so there was some talk of maybe a dull swim buying. So I knew there was a possibility that might come back, and it also was a component. I think the structure was it'll air on FOX. And then it'll go to adult swim a week. Later, and they'll kind of share the costs of I don't really know how that works part puts me, what would you have done if they had just said, all right? You know, recipes I don't know who knows I would've hopefully wound up somewhere probably have written on somebody else's show meals. You can we just briefly go through, you know, some of these characters are really beloved at this point. And I just wonder how you arrived at the characterization the vocals ation of for instance, Peter Griffin. I grew up around that dialect that, you know, Massachusetts, Rhode Island just all over my family, and I was friendly with the security staff at Rizzi. And I think at one point I can't remember why to book end talent show that Rizzi was doing in their theater, and they said can make a video or something to kind of ramp up the crowd the beginning. So I made a fake cop show starring the security staff at my college, and they're cool guys. And couple of them had that really thick in are just real thick Rhode Island. You know? This thing going on just just no question where from and there was in some cases, very little self editing mechanism, right? But you know, kindness. Good heartedness that just kinda made it all okay? And foam of the laugh at them and some of the shit that came out of their mouths would maybe not so acceptable from another type of person. But like addict clearly mean, so well, and so the voice of Peter Griffin was very much drawn from one of those guys in particular. Yeah. So I guess steely Griffin. Who if there's somebody listening doesn't know Peter was the man at how Stuey is the style co baby wants to kill his mother that comes back to your love of music. Yeah. Yeah. It was a big fan of film. Musicals loved my fair lady. Just Rex Harrison's characterization of Henry Higgins, just remains so hilarious in its oblivious. Nece? Yeah. Stuey began as an impression of Rex Harrison. And when you want to get into character, as is there something of Rex's, there's a couple of you know, there's the. Damned damned damned I've grown accustomed to her face. There's a couple of lines that if I'm warming up you one my bed, you presumptuous insect. I want it. But it's slippers at MIT Foale, these just clip like no question. How characters Brian the talking dog of all characters the one that is most me just give myself a break. Peter came first, the voice of Peter came first and in classic comedy duo vaudevillian tradition. He's just the opposite. The opposite of the big bombastic lovable, but not sober. Exactly. Not so bright guy over here is the soft spoken, quiet. Reserve critical intellectual of salute. Well, so another thing you've done not just with family guy. But with the off shoots which and others, which will come to a moment is brought sort of show stopping music back into animation or into enemy. If it ever was there before where you know, you've talked about the importance of showmanship is the word you seem to keep coming back to. And why that whether it's a opening theme song or a parody. I think starting his early season one with family guy or something kind of playing off of Anne is it just the way to kind of combine your interest your love. Yeah. I mean, certainly animation is the only meaning that I can think of that combines all of those different artistic disciplines, it's drawing. It's acting. It's music. It's all these different things, you know, bundled into one and prior to the Simpsons had shown very clearly what an orchestra in do for animated series. And you know, again, we took that and ran with and I don't think you could do those musical numbers and sustain them without a live orchestra. I think even if the audience doesn't know what they're hearing is live music, you know, alive symphony basically on a subconscious level. I remain convinced that it captures their attention. More literally do. With full orchestra. When when you see one of those numbers. I mean, the Orrville this past you know, we've had few episodes of the season where we used ninety five piece orchestra for. Yeah. It makes a huge difference. How often, you know, family guys, obviously, very funny, but no holds barred humor. How often you hear from people that you guys target, you know, kind of bitching about that. And then also how often do you hear from? I don't know if it would be network standards and practices or the FCC. Or who by the way, you guys went after in the fourth season the episode PTV, very funny. Do you know by this point just what you can get away with their new still get pushback, I haven't dealt with that on family guy since about two thousand eleven when I left to do Ted. Yes. Was when I stopped. I'd run the show for ten years, and I was fine passing it on. So they're in an awkward place because you have streaming shows you have the internet. You have all these things were standards. Just don't really apply it's moved on like nobody's taken aback or freaked out by the word fuck anymore. It's just not right. But the broadcast networks or this holdout. They're still. Beholden to the rules of the FCC which are relatively arcane compared to the rest of the culture. Right. And you know, there's certainly no political incentive to advance that. It's easier to just kind of remain conservative and keep your head down. But it's hard for a show to compete a lot of ways. I think the guys that are running the show done a very good job at walking that line, but I've never had any direct dealings with the FCC my dealings with broadcast standards. You would think would be contentious. It's exactly the opposite. And it's it's not because we fought so hard. It's because we have a good relationship that they've been willing to take those risks with us. Did you guys when you were more involved with family guy do things like I've heard about they would do in the golden age of Hollywood where you throw in three things that you know, they're never gonna let you use. So he was in Butthead used did that too. Yeah, we never did that I don't know how you have the time. Get your barely making your day. Right. Just getting the jokes done. They're going to be on air. Right. It does seem like a good idea. But at the end of the day, I don't know really how effective it is. Because if you know you say well can't we keep the shit, we cut the fuck? You still can't well one last follow up about that stuff. I don't know if this correct? But I saw one thing that indicated your overall deal with FOX ends in June. Is that correct May June agent only asked because I wonder how appealing the idea is of being in a place where you can just say or do anything you want? I mean, I believe that you're producing partner on Ted was Scott Suber. Who's now running things over at Netflix? Do you look at people that do stuff for place like that? And this is not to say anything about what your actual plans are. But do you envy, somebody that can just do whatever they want? You know, it's a complex question because there's a broadening to network TV that I think we're seeing the last gasp of that dominance of reach. But in lot of ways, it is still there, you can reach a lot eyeballs. They're still only a few of them compared to all these streaming services. I don't know it just depends on the project the project dictates what the platform is. You know, I could be at a streaming service and do a show. Oh that to me feels like a broadcast show. And that's why I'm gonna want it to be or the reverse. I mean, it really depends. The Orrville is something that it's very different than family guy in that. It doesn't require. I think we've gotten like one broadcast standards note all season two. It's just not that kinda show. It goes for something different the project and the story and the tone tells you where it wants to be right. So I guess in the last year, you would have been intimately involved with family guy or the year before you kind of get focus on other things. A little more was two thousand nine which was also the first time in forty eight years that an animated show was nominated for best comedy series. And that was family guy. Not since Flintstones, which I guess was one of them that you mentioned you grew up loving so symbolically what did that mean to you? And also, do you believe that there's some bias that should be overcome more frequently with these awards type groups because if you talk to people out in the world, they laugh family guys much as anything and yet. That's not happening. Every year. There's something fundamentally wrong with the system if there's a show in our lifetime that should have a best comedy on TV. Emmy, it's the Simpsons. Yeah. There's a lot of things that are deeply ingrained in our process that we're reluctant to change we in Hollywood are lemmings and a lot of ways it is a big high school. We do tend to go with whatever way it seems that we're told to go if there's something that we are told to like, whether it's film or television show or whatnot. We tend to fall in line. I kinda take all those things with enthusiasm. And reservations the same time. You know, we all love winning awards, well winning Emmys or Oscars or whatever. But it's always tempered with a little bit of awareness that there are so many outside factors that have nothing to do with how good a show is. I won an EMMY for voice over for some of the worst work. I've done in my career. Who's the couple of years ago that I really like this is on you wanna give me I was really trying about five years before that. It is. I think you guys seem to recognize that when we from family guy may, you know, as you said, it's less total your baby than once was. But the last few years the journalists who cover wards stuff, and maybe some voters as well. We've got some funny communications from you guys. I think the most recent was we know who the next metoo person is up and there's a mirror. So anyway, you mentioned the Simpsons they've been around since eighty nine south park since ninety seven family guy since ninety nine to, you know, your sort of equivalence at those shows are you friends as their competitiveness. How do you regard those guys I don't know Matt and Trey at all I met trae once for all of thirty seconds in the lobby of the Emmys one year, but beyond that, I don't know them yet, the Simpsons we have very warm relationship with macaroni is a friend. And he's the best. I mean, he's just a really great guy to hang with and just really knows comedy and just a very kind person. And you know, they all Mike Scully from the Simpsons. Brian Scully who worked in Simpson's? Well, wound up being family guy writer, and he's hilarious. They're good bunch one thing that you've done that. I guess these other guys haven't really done as spinoffs and branch outs offshoots. I mean, American dads are no five Cleveland show nine in between there you have border town. Just what motivated that did you have a desire to tell other stories was their sense that you needed to you know, that as the flex kind of animation guy, you should have multiple things going or what was that all driven by again, it was driven by the idea and the timing. I don't set out to create a show for the sake of creating show American dad was created because we thought family guy was dead. I didn't intend to have two shows on the air. And for a while. It was a huge pain in the ass. Honestly, it's still in running the Orrville or whether I'm shooting Ted movie or whatnot. It is still a pain in the ass to record two shows a week. I mean, it's what I'm winding. Of a pitch. I didn't set out to do that much American dad came about. And then family guy came back on the scene. So suddenly I had to animated shows. And I wasn't really sure how I was going to do it. I'm not the type of person who likes to executive produce multiple things piecemeal. I like working I like being there everyday focusing on one project and that can take a toll. I read you. I one point one up in the hospital. Yeah. Yeah. Fifteen months without a vacation. And I also the flu, and I was still coming to work. And that message from my body. I got loud and clear, I've radically changed my process. But you know, the Cleveland show was something that Mike Henry and rich appel really wanted to do. And they're both people that I respect enormously, and no Mike since college original comedic voices that I've worked with a Marquette Amon who did bordertown hugely talented cartoonist and writer, you know. So these people would have these ideas, and there were people whose work I had been the beneficiary of. For years and had every reason to support them in terms of movies starting with the first head in two thousand twelve the next one was three years later. But was this just I've done TV I wanna do movie or I wanna do something specifically that can blend live action with animation via fax or whatever. Or what was the reason Ted originally was an idea for an animated series? It was going to be Ted. And then this father who had had this teddy bear since he was a kid. And now he was in adult and he had a family, and he moved on with the bear was still with them. So it was more like a family premise and somewhere along the line. It became I actually don't remember. I don't remember at what point I said. Wait a minute. Maybe there should be a movie. Oh, yeah. I mean it went through so many permutations we pitched it to twentieth. They said, hey, can you do a PG version? We wrote a PG version of the script didn't fly. So we went to universal. They said we like it. And we like you're already version I got at one point. We're talking about doing it like Alf Ted was going to be a puppet, right? Yeah. Eventually it landed at universal and became what it was highest grossing rated comedy that is not a sequel remix. So I guess points for something. Just knock us off that wasn't there some movie that just knocked us off that left the double track. But I don't know. Up. Yeah. Number one. Sure. But to wrecking for a movie, it's gotta be like, a totally different thing than anything. You've done up to that point. Right. There are three basic terms and filmmaking like, oh, that's an over. That's a fifty fifty. That's a seventeen lens. There are things that had to be explained to me day, literally directing a movie, right? And I had to say to my DP. Now, what's an over the guy? And he's like, well, that's when you have a piece of somebody in the foreground the shots really about the person. They're talking to. Okay. That's what that is. How do you think you convinced them to let you do it? They were drunk possible. I think they figured all right. This is somebody who's smart enough to figure out goes. And and you know, I could see to my head. I knew visually. What I wanted the thing that was hard to break myself as that animation. Everything is story boarded beforehand. So the shot that you have for that particular line of dialogue is the shot. Right. And I had set out to do the movie like that like, I don't need multiple pieces of coverage of this. This is the shaman us in the edit and then quickly learn like, yeah. In this medium. It's good to have we'll cover, you know, there were certain things in that movie that I did do as one or is that this is the way it's gonna look and moving on. We don't need to get a hundred cameras on this. So we'll just know Ted was twenty twelve million ways. I in the west was twenty fourteen Ted to twenty fifteen in the middle of all this in two thousand thirteen was something that I was lucky enough to be at. And that was the night you host of the Oscars produced by Neil Maron, and the late Craig's Eidan was that something that you would always had on your. Bucket list or was it just out of the blue was you? Yes. That was out of the blue. Yeah. It was an immediate. Yes. I recognized you know, what it could do for me professionally, but it wasn't like it was a long term goal to promote your account. Parents. You did the nominations as well and found out you're nominated at your own announcement of the nominations, which was called for the song. But the other thing which happened there, which I know is been a hot topic of discussion recently was that you made a joke after they announced the five best actress nominees and you said, quote, congratulations. You five ladies in the longer after pretend to be attracted to Harvey Weinstein close quote. So just cleared up. Did you know something then that the rest of us didn't yet know the only thing I knew a friend of mine had had an encounter with him. That was very lascivious. Yep. That was about it and told me the story, and you know, was reluctant to speak out. Because at the time the fallout from that was still uncertain we're in a better place now, but I was pissed. Yeah. I mean, you can say. Hey report, it tell somebody, but his not up to you. It's up to the person who had happens. It's their decision. So, you know, the next best thing is that take a pot shop the guy in public. So at the Oscars itself. I thought your I thought it played great in the room. And I really been hoping to one day have the chance to ask you something. Because I think there's been a big misunderstanding. Because supposedly the worst thing that you did that night was the song. We saw your boobs which was joking about actresses who we had earned some cases hadn't yet seen topless in movies. People can argue about whether or not they want have that on the Oscars. But what I think maybe turn some people against the on. That was that the way it was presented which you and Shatner talking about how he knows that you ruined the Oscars, and he's gonna show you how right now it shows the video of you singing this with what I'm almost positive where pre-tape cut away shots reaction that weren't even react. Acting anything you were doing but the viewers at home, by the way, it was presented. I think thought these were live reaction shots of actresses actually being offended by what you were saying. And therefore, they were offended on their behalf. When in fact, I'm looking from my seat the viewers where I think the press was offended. I think it was click. Yeah. I really do because he didn't get that from anyone else. No an in the audience. I know you are friends with and went on to work with Charlie thrown, Jennifer Lawrence. They're they're dying. I'm looking I had a seat where I can see how people react. You don't have to be the Christie to sleuth out that they were all wearing different dresses were the next time, you cut to the well, right? But I don't know how much people are even paying attention there. I really think they were offended on behalf of the actresses. I think the biggest misconception and again this response in the room was very gratifying. I loved it. Like that crowd was great and the response from viewers that I've connected with. I've talked to has been great the holdout was. In our little Hollywood bubble. You know, look, I'm not alone. There's always something to bitch about after the Oscars. Yeah. But I think what got lost in the shuffling. What gets a little bit raced from the narrative at this point. When it's brought up is that prior to the Oscars. There was actually a relatively old fashioned tame opening that I plan on doing. And the producers said, you know, what we like this. But we kind of want a little bit more of what it is you do on family guy. And I had been reading a lot in the press that was never read your own press. They said, but we all do it. That was just people kind of foaming at the mouth in anticipation of what I was going to do to the ceremony. The subtext would be. Ooh, I hate him for what I'm sure he's going to do. And it was this build up that almost wanted to be commented on. So I thought you've kind of set me up with your vitriol, first of all nothing's happening, the show doesn't exist. But you have this frantic idea something terrible's going to happen. And so I kind of took that and turn it into a premise for the opening. I think what people forget is these thing. Are supposed to be offensive because they were the manifestation of what in the mind of the media was what was going to happen. Yeah. By the way, they just narrative that was the structure was funded that they invited you to do it again. Right. Yeah. Oh, they were great. I mean. Yeah. It's about two weeks where I was wringing my hands the whether it was a plus or minus to go back and do it that second year. And when they called me, I was in Santa Fe doing this western I really didn't wanna screw that up. It was my first time acting and directing writing I really wanted to do it. Right. And I almost said, yes. And then I realized I've done this. It's fun. Maybe somewhere down the line if they asked me again, I'll do it again. But I would really only be doing it to say hi to the detractors. And it's just not it's not a good. Maybe zone zones would be good that would be hosting an award show is in many ways, it's not a winnable situation. Again, every host has criticism. Yep. They thought Billy crystal was too soft thought I was too harsh and Neil Patrick Harris should have been perfect for them. And I thought he did a masterful job. But the next day there was criticism of him to and it's all right. You guys are hopeless. You're hopeless. If this guy can't do it for you. There's no saving. All right. I wanna make sure that we give time here. Or to a show that I know is as much a passion project for you as anything. This is the Orrville on FOX started for season start rolling on twenty seventeen. Now, the second season more recently of Asli show, set four hundred years in the future and Senate on a captain you at Mercer, and as I love who were once married. Got divorced still have to work together aboard the Orville where you always itching to do a live action series on TV or an hour long drama specifically or one that feels like, you know, much to Star Trek specifically or just where did this come from. I always wanted to do a show of this type, whether it was comedy, I think I secretly wanted it to be the dramatic show that eventually became I think there was a little bit of fear of getting traction on that because people expect to certain thing and one of the pleasant surprises of my career is seeing how ready people are to embrace. What I really wanted this thing to be and it's been usually gratifying. I went to CBS a couple years prior to that. I just finished head to. And I said, hey, listen, I'm finish. I have nothing on my slate coming up I haven't decided what I'm gonna do next. I'd love to do a Star Trek series. I don't know if you guys are doing this for I pitched a less moon vessel. So if I just waited a little bit. But you know, I love that John Rowe storytelling. I love allegorical science fiction. You know in the vein of the twilight zone, Star Trek and black mare. It just sounded like a blast. And I just couldn't get traction. So I went back to the drawing board and said, I this idea of captain on the bridge of spaceship instead of a sailing ship is something that's now kind of a convention. Everybody uses it and in what predates Star Trek. They were the first franchise to really bring it into the mainstream in a massive way. But it's you know, you see it in the nineteen thirties Sifi cereals, so we just went with that. We're not gonna reinvent the wheel there. But the idea was to kind of look more towards mash than Star Trek and see if there's a way to casual allies that world and make it feel like these are just people go into work everyday. They're encountering. Aliens and jeopardy and political upheaval, but they're just people going to work. They're not paragon of nobility. I think both seasons. If you look at the various metrics that you know, gauge audience reaction audience has been very much behind this the difference between the first season. And then the second where there was maybe a substantial gap between maybe year between the the two seasons was that. Now, you know, thought leaders and critics and whatever are starting to come around and say. Hey sneakers. You know, what I'm saying like? But they gave you guys are time because the first season there was a complaint that they need neatly as a comedy, dramas, whatever. Now, it seems like you guys have lean more into the drama, but also people particularly with the two part episode identity there people that are doing think pieces saying we were really underestimating this, and I think if maybe we can just talk through the prism of that one that one's being likened to the Star Trek next generation to part of the best of both worlds was that a conscious thing when you were doing it as the idea to that's one of the benchmarks sci-fi. I mean, you know, it's analogous to family guy family guy was obviously without the Simpsons. There would be no family guy. You know without all in the family. There'd be no cheers. You know? I mean, it's you learn from your predecessor, you learn from those who come before you and eventually family guy evolved into its own animal. And you know, I think this was when the Orrville really did the same thing was that two part episode. You know, this idea of main character who has. Been duplicitous this whole time and even the level of cinema. The show is kind of going for like our visual effects team. You know, what they did with that? Space battle goes on for eight minutes, like something out of a feature film. It's the craftsmanship of the team has just they all deserve applause. But it was very gratifying to see that transformation. The initial reviews were certainly they were harsh, but not unexpected. I had kinda got my ass handed to me several times people have their knives out for you. I mean, it seems like, you know, enough guy. What's the problem who the hell knows? I whenever I read a bad review at comfort myself by recalling the New York Times review of the movie soul. Man, remember, Solman Bakley. It's a it's like nineteen eighty came out awhile ago, but not long enough ago for what it's about about a white college student who takes a whole bunch of self Tanner pills puts on a wig disguises himself as a black college student to get a scholarship harbor. This is the premise of the movie, and they and. White guy literally black face with a wig and the New York Times called it. A cheerful only say what? Only say what I wrote it down. Because I knew this come up at some point this crazy. Cheerful frat house version of Tootsie. So so what I read AOL Scott's view of Ted too. I'm like, I think I'm okay. If that's what it takes to rate them that. I'm are how. Last question. I guess with regard to Arbil on which you've directed. You've been a writer on mostly episodes directed the first of each season and several others and season two is this for the immediate next few months or years, or whatever is this the primary focus, I guess the overall deal will somewhat impact. What's next, right? Yeah. It's too soon to tell what's gonna happen there. But as of now, I had said if I don't see growth in terms of the Orrville by the end of season two, then I'm probably just gonna Chuck it off, you know, my bucket list and just leave it at that. But it's exceeded my hopes, you know, as far as that's concerned. I mean, you know, again, the audience was with us from day one. But you know, it's like, look we dismiss critics, but it's always nice to read good stuff about you from critics. I'm not gonna lie. I'm reading all these great reviews of the show and a relatively new experience, and you know, these rave reviews of the second season. And it's you know, it does feel good and people are really getting the really dig into the grist of. What these stories are because we write it with a lot of care. We write it like a streaming series. We don't start shooting until all of our episodes for the season or done. So we make sure that everything is polish and ready to go and nothing feels rushed. And it's great to see that acknowledged, especially. I mean, it's got all aspects of that. It's probably nice that it's your work is being appreciated an area that probably nobody even knew you had much zyu- to work in. This is not animated. This is not voice. This is not music. This is something that came out of the blue for a lot of people you hope that people can smell when you love something. Right. And in this case, they have you know, I read as much reaction as I can online from fans of the thing because it's a pleasure because there's a real proprietary possessive feeling that people get when it comes to Sifi in the way that they do about their favorite band. It's a really kind of special thing. So I do try to read as much as I can. And it's exciting oftentimes people aren't willing to let you make that transition. If you are a comedian wants to do a drama or a dramatic act. Ter- decides they want to comedy. They don't always let you do it. Now. Sometimes they'll crucify for. But here it's been, you know, initial bump what the hell is this and people have acknowledged. Okay. They're coming out this earnestly, and they're really trying to make something great. And if I continue to see this kind of growth for the show, then I, you know, I don't know. How could do it for number years? Yeah. Awesome. Thanks for this. I thank you. Thanks very much for tuning into awards cheddar. We really appreciate you taking the time to do that. And would really appreciate you taking a minute more. Subscribe to our podcast for free on items or your podcasts up and to leave us a rating as well. If you have any questions comments or concerns, you can reach me via Twitter at Twitter dot com slash fiber. And you can follow all of my coverage between episodes at T HR dot com slash the race. Finally, be sure to check out the other podcasts that are part of the Hollywood reporter's podcast network. All of which are excellent Lesley Goldberg and Daniel Feinberg TV's top-five set the brim of chip pope's, it happened in Hollywood Caroline GR Dina's behind the screen and Josh wiggles series regular on behalf of all of us at the Hollywood reporter, thanks for tuning in.

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11 Trivia Questions on Ghosts

Trivia With Budds

07:47 min | Last month

11 Trivia Questions on Ghosts

"It's eleven questions on all things ghost just in time for the ghostly Est. Time of year this is trivia with bugs. Welcome absent, the trivial buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan Buds thanks for checking out the show in remember all this week. We've got some scary themed episodes for you including this one on ghosts today I have been very scary at my house lately because I have this new t shirt out and a new magnet out with me dressed as Elvira you may. Have noticed it as the new for the show for the month of October will keep that up through November, and then I got another new one coming in December for the holiday season. So be on the lookout for that and about a month until then you can get your Elvira t shirt to wear and spook and scare all of your friends and Family It is me featuring a very busty chest version of me as era. With a spider and some bats in all kinds of stuff again, you can see it on the artwork for the show. But I have shirts available. They're twenty five bucks and it comes with free shipping. Any size t shirt you can also do to for forty you send me a message, you can buy these. Just. Send me some money at Ryan Buds or pay. Ryan G MAIL DOT COM. Setting up a store in the very near future where you can go on and buy whatever you want also throwing in a couple of magnets. When he buy shirts, I think I have eight magnets left. So if you want a free magnet with your t shirt, get that shirt while we have those magnets for the next eight or so. All right guys. We're going to jump into this episode all about ghosts written by Luke McKay right about now here we go. All right. It's ghost trivia coming at Ya like an apparition out of the wall. Here's question number one which cartoon comic and movie character is known as the friendly ghost number one which cartoon comic and movie character is known as the friendly ghost number one. Number two goes protocol is the subtitle of the fourth film in what Action Franchise Number Two ghost protocol is the subtitle of the fourth film in which action franchise number two. Number three, what song is playing during the famous pottery scene in the movie ghost, what song is playing in the pottery seen ghost number three. and. Number four slammer was a character in what nineteen eighty six to nineteen ninety-one animated series number four slammer was a character and what nine, hundred, eighty, six to nineteen ninety-one animated series. Question Number Five, which first person shooter franchise has an entry subtitled ghosts number five, which first person shooter franchise has an entry subtitled ghosts number five. Six what eighties character was known as the ghost with the most eighties character was known as the ghost with the most. And number seven in what filmed did Robert Downey junior play a character who games four ghostly guardians when he's born at the same time that they perished in a bus crash what is that movie with Robert Downey Junior Tibur seven. Number Eight, what nine hundred ninety s parody talk show is hosted by nineteen sixties Hanna Barbera character number eight, nine, hundred, ninety s parody talk show is hosted by nineteen sixties, hanna-barbera character and number eight. And number nine what Fox Sitcom starred Craig Robinson an Adam Scott. is to L. A. Paranormal investigators number nine. What was that show with Craig Robinson and Adam Scott? and. Number ten, what house was moaning myrtle sorted into in the world of Harry Potter Number Ten which house was moaning Myrtle sorted into at hogwarts and Harry Potter number ten. And your bonus from Luke McKay. What are the names of the four ghosts in Pacman? You get one point for two ghosts named. So if you get two of them, get one point if you get all four, you get two points. What are the names the ghosts in Pacman? Those are all your questions for some ghostly Trivia here come the answers in just a boo. We are back with the answers to Trivia. Let's see how you did on this quick quiz question number one, which cartoon comic and movie character is known as the friendly goes that is casper played by Devon. Sour in the nineteen ninety-five movie if you ever saw it, I used to love that movie and I love the ghosts. I thought it was great. Number two goes protocol is the subtitle of the fourth film in which action franchise that's mission impossible. Mission impossible I think this was the last one I saw and I saw that the working I may be the sixth or seventh one right now, and it's like him in space I it's crazy Tom Cruise is the ultimate stuntman for being a just a little guy number three. What Song is playing during the famous pottery scene and ghosts that is unchained melody unchained melody by the righteous brothers number three, number four, slimane, a character in one, thousand, nine, hundred, six, nineteen, ninety-one, animated series, the real ghostbusters number four, the real ghostbusters number five, which first person shooter franchise has an entry subtitled ghosts. That's call of duty call of duty ghosts and number six what eighties character was known as. The ghost with the most that was beetlejuice don't say his name three times or he will show up and try and Mary. You number seven in what film did Robert Downey junior play a character who gains four grossly guardians when he's born at the same time that they perished in a bus crash that his heart and souls heart and souls number seven and number eight, what nine hundred nineties parody talk show is hosted by Nineteen Sixties Hanna barbera cartoon character that was space ghost coast to coast space ghost coast to coast I. Remember Watching Weird Al on this show and thinking it was pretty Dang funny in the mid to late nineties number nine what Fox Sitcom Start, crab and Senate Adam Scott is to La Paranormal investigators that ghosted ghosted I think it only lasts a season and then pretend what house was moaning myrtle sorted into Harry Potter it was Raven Claw Raven Claw, and your bonus for two points where the names the four ghosts in Pacman it's one point for the two that you got all four or give yourself two points. It was inky Blinky Pinky and Clyde, and they do that at the very beginning in that little roll call section when you play the Arcade Game Inky Blinky Pinky and Clyde does not get the rhyming name. That was today's episode on ghosts. Thanks Luke for those questions and thank you guys for listening. Here's your fact of the day and they squirt blood from there is as a defense mechanism. You should try that next time someone approaches to shoot and blood from your eyes at them they will run in the opposite direction. Thank you guys for listening. Thanks for telling a friend about the show and we'll see you next time for more trivia with buds. Cheers. Mine. Only.

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ICYMI: Our HBO Max review

Talking Tech

04:32 min | 6 months ago

ICYMI: Our HBO Max review

"Talking Tech is brought to you by nerdwallet. We all love nursing out on stuff. We love right and as a listener of this show, you probably know a thing or two about tech, but when it comes to finances, no one nerds out like nerdwallet for all your money. Questions turned to the NERDS AT NERDWALLET DOT com. The latest new streaming service HBO matches out and I've been checking it out I'm impressed. The proposition for ordering unlike any other service you've subscribe to in the past. It's not give us fifteen bucks. You'll get a whole new world of programming. Instead it's keep subscribing to the HBO now. Streaming service because we just gave it a face lift and made it a whole lot better. I'm Jefferson Graham. This is talking tech. Let me fill you in Max's HBO Plus Movies TV series and cartoons from the Warner Brothers Library, classic Hollywood and Foreign Films From The T.. T. C. M.. Film Library original animation and more now. Hbo Now just got a whole lot better and for me since I was already subscribing. I have more of a reason to keep it. I like the programming selection. You may like it, too. If you have an apple, TV or google, chrome cast streaming device in the house, but if you're like most people and get your streaming, the a Roku or Amazon fire TV streaming player while you're out of luck for now. At and T. which owns warner media didn't make a deal with either so it's either fork over thirty five dollars for chrome cast a hundred and fifty dollars for the Apple, TV device or watch Max on one of the newer Sony or Samsung TV's. Here's what you're gonNA find. Was Promoting heavily the complete collection of friends and the Big Bang theory at the top of the front page. The Harry Potter films and others from the Warner Brothers Library including man and wonder woman. Max is broken up into several hubs. This includes looney tunes. Cartoons adult swim in the cartoon network. HBO MTC EM. Some hubs are better than others. T is fully featured with classics Galore like the Wizard of Oz gone with the wind and I really love this the complete Charlie. Chaplin Film Collection. Cartoon Network has just a handful of series like the power, puff, girls and dexterous laboratory, but it's missing some key titles like Johnny Bravo and courage the cowardly dog. Unlike the recent, Disney plus launch, which had hundreds of vintage animation from the bolt along with four current titles, Max has many of the best of bugs, bunny, porky, pig, and gang, including a duck amuck, corny concerto in gorilla, my dreams, but a big emission at least on the first day is the greatest looney tunes cartoon ever made. WHAT'S OPERA DOC? The HBO hub is basically HBO now with Yes every episode of Game of thrones the Sopranos, Kirby enthusiasm plus more, but if you're looking for something outside of. Of. Those hubs navigation is tough for instance. Max promised classics from the Hanna Barbera, library like the flintstones and the jetsons, an episode of Conan from the TBS Library there there, if you're willing to click search and type out their names, there should be an easier way to find them, but overall. Hbo Now is a whole lot cooler on Wednesday that. It was on Tuesday with way more programming busy during these pandemic times. Should you spring for yet another subscription service if you're not already paying HBO now? Well if you are paying for HBO now, there's no decision that has to be made. Not Are you willing to pay fifteen dollars monthly. The priciest of any of the subscription services for friends, Big Bang and great movies that my friends is a streaming question of the year I'd love hear. Your thoughts looked to me on twitter where I'm at Jefferson. Grammy than talking pet. Subscribed show wherever you listen to on my naughty I'll be back tomorrow with another. Quick it from the world attack. This episode is brought to you by nerdwallet. nerdwallet has helpful tools and tips for all things personal finance, because when it comes to finances, no-one nerds out like nerdwallet. Are you wondering if now's a good time to start investing, or if you should refinance your house when you have those kinds of questions, trust the experts at nerdwallet. They're real nerds who make even the most complicated money questions simple to understand plus their calculators and side by side comparisons will help you make sense of your options for all your money. Questions turned to the NERDS AT NERDWALLET DOT COM

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11 Trivia Questions on Classic Cartoons

Trivia With Budds

09:41 min | 1 year ago

11 Trivia Questions on Classic Cartoons

"It's eleven trivia questions on Classic Cartoon Trivia. How many of these animated adventures do you know? This is trivia with buds. The new and why did be and welcome to another episode of the Trivia with Buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan Buds. Thank you so much for checking out the show. Today's episode is all about classic cartoons art tunes which should be a ton of fun people at my live Trivia nights last week love this round and people did pretty well on it so we got eleven questions for you and before we dive into the meat of the episode until we get to the trivia portion of the episode. We do have this quick intro that I kick off all the episodes with where I do some announcements and some fun facts and things like that but for today's as Intro I am going to be doing an impression of a certain classic cartoon character. My daughter Annabel. We're driving around the other day and I was talking in a funny voice voice and she said Dad your voice sounds exactly like rabbit from Winnie the Pooh. So I don't know if you watched a lot of Winnie the Pooh grown-up but the more. I talked like like him. The more on Mike. I guess I do kind of sound like that. Like the same tone of voice as rabbit from the hundred Acre Wood. So I'm going to read you. Some quotes that I found on a long list of quotes from a rabbit in the mini adventures of Winnie. The pooh so you can have fun listening to me. Talk like rabbit for just a minute or two here we go messy messy. It's ruined. It's ruined tigger. Why won't you ever stop bouncing there? You go here's another one. I've got a splendid idea. Now listen we'll take tigger for a long explore somewhere. He's never been before then we'll lose him there. That's that's Kinda mean. That was some sick some sick planning from rabbit. He wants to lose tigger in the woods and Let's see here we go all. We'll find him again the next morning and mark my words boards. He'll be humble tigger a small in sad. Tigger and Ole Rabid am. I glad to see you tigger and it'll bounce and bounce and bounce it out of him that's it's what now all in favor say Aye all right and let's just do a couple more here. Rabbit does not like tigger. We've learned about these quotes. Let's do like two more here. We go he's talking about playing pooh-sticks. Okay all right now. The I stick to pass all the way under the bridge wins. Now on your marks get set rue. We must all start together. Oh dear now where was I. Oh yes get set go. And here's one more here we go. Let's see Pu when I say now you can drop it or when I say now will drop the stone. Are you ready. One One A.. Two now there you go. So those are my readings of rabbit lines from Winnie the Pooh I hope you got a chuckle out of that or you you just fast forwarded it and you're already listening to the Trivia for classic cartoons. Thank you Annabel for pointing out that I sound like the biggest curmudgeon from this show show Winnie the Pooh all right. We're going to jump into these questions right now. I've got eleven of them for you. Write down the answers yell amount. Play against someone. You love whatever you want to do this show so is for you. Just don't act like a tigger because my inner rabbit will come out and scream at you through your radio or headphones. We're going to jump into that questions right now. Here here we go here. We go guys classic cartoons question number one who was the original Voice of Mickey Mouse Question Number One classic it cartoons. who was the original Voice of Mickey Mouse? Question number. Two kind of creature was casper. McFadden who was created in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine question number two. What kind of creature was Casper McFadden? who was created in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine question number three C.? Hag Bluto and poop deck pappy or I'll characters in what franchise number three Free Sea Hag Bluto and poop deck. pappy where all characters. And what franchise question number therefore what color hair did betty rubble have number four. What color hair did betty? Rubble have question number five. What character had a sidekick named Commander Canine the space dog number five character had a sidekick named Commander Canine the space dog question number six which one of the following did boo boo bear? Usually really where was it a bow tie a hat or scarf number six. Which one of the following did boo boo bear usually? Where was it Bowtie hat or scarf question for seven? What nickelodeon show took place in town number seven when nickelodeon show took place place in town question number eight who was born his Russian counterpart on the adventures of rocky in bowl? Winkle number eight who has Boris's Russian counterpart on the adventures of Rocky and bowl winkle number nine. What kind of animal was the looney tunes character? Foghorn leghorn number nine what kind of animal was Foghorn Leghorn question number ten what state did king of the hill take place in number ten. What state King of the hill take place in and your bonus question for two points? What Hanna Barbera show featured characters named Benny the ball chew and brain? That's a tough one for two points. That's what Hanna Barbera show featured characters named Benny the ball chew and brain. Those your questions. Classic Cartoon Trivia. We'll be right back in just a second with the classic cartoon answers. It's me rabid from the adventures of Winnie the Pooh and we're back with the answers to classic cartoon Trivia. Just just kidding. I can't do that the whole time number one. who was the original Voice of Mickey Mouse? That was Walt Disney number one. Walt Disney number. Two kind of creature was casper. McFadden who was created in one thousand nine thirty nine. I tried to throw you off the last name but it was casper the ghost he was a ghost his last name. McFadden Number Three C.. Had BLUTO and poop deck. pappy are all terrible stripper names and they were characters and what franchise. That was Popeye. Popeye the sailor number four. What color hair did betty rubble? Half she had black hair Mary Barney next door. The Fred Wilma number five will character a sidekick named commander. Canine the space dog. That was Marvin the Martian number five Marvin the Martian tough question unless you really know am em number six which one of the following boo boo bear usually wear a bow tie a hat or scarf. He wore a bow tie. Yogi number six number seven. What nickelodeon show took place in hotel? That was Rocco's modern life number. Seven Rocco's modern life number eight. Who is Boris his Russian counterpart on the adventures of rocky and Bowling Bill? That was Natasha. Boris I an attache were always after Moose and squirrel number nine. What kind of animal was a looney tunes character foghorn Leghorn? He was a big stuttering rooster number number nine number ten. What kind of what state did king of the hill take place in the southern state of Texas Number Ten Texas and your bonus for two points? What Hanna barbera character featured what cannabis show featured characters named Benny the ball Choo Choo and brain? The answer there was top cat very tough question top cat. Only two or three seasons from the seventies and the Hanna Barbera universe that is today's episode guys classic cartoons. I hope he had fun playing along and listening coming to the show. If you WANNA throw a few bucks my way to support the show and help us grow bigger and better every day go to patriots. Dot Com slash trivia with buds. Joined the almost sixty other people who we'll get a kick out of the show enough to throw a buck or two at it every single month and if you're looking for rewards for November get ready I'm sending rewards for November and December out out in the next week soon as I get done with this big crazy weekend here I will send out some very cool stuff just for you and we'll start fresh with new rewards a newsletter slider and all kinds of cool stuff in January twenty twenty also. I will be making a brand new excel church to have you guys document the picks of topics you'd like to do for everybody who donates five dollars or more per month so be on the lookout for that. It's time for the question of the day brought to you by funky monkey designs of San demus California. FM DESIGNS DESIGNS INC DOT COM. If you need anything printed check them out what was billy. Joel's first top forty. Hit tweet me your answer at Ryan buds or email Ryan buds gmail.com to be eligible for or prize. Yesterday's question and the answer was cautioned for the yellow flag and auto racing in your Trivia team. Name of the day is Lance Bass pro shop lance bass pro shop shop. That's a fun one. Thank you guys for listening. Thanks for telling a friend and we'll see you tomorrow for more Trivia with buds. Cheers Komo News.

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SCOOB! - Double Toasted Audio Review

Double Toasted

59:11 min | 6 months ago

SCOOB! - Double Toasted Audio Review

"Before we get into school wanted to let you know about a little partnership we got going on. We're row eight. It was row eight zero eight. Yeah row eight that is a streaming service and a lot of people streaming some the latest things to drop and they are dropping pretty hard these days that drop it all the new stuff out there including school eight. Is the place that you can go to wash that along with many other things out there. They actually have a lot of the latest releases stuff that had just gone to the theater and now they're out very quickly stuff. That's what's GonNa be in the theaters. But they've gone to school bright here and let me see here. We can get you guys two dollars off your first. Vod over there. If you use our code used to watch scuba whatever else you WANNA watch two dollars off your first movie type in the code double dash row eight. Very simple case sends try to the way but is very simple. Double Dash row eight spell. It out for you. Do Ub Dash R. O. W. 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That was still bore in never had a chance to live this earth radio people that people destroyed that right. There people see that Dr this a first time I saw people who even bill nurse they saw that Logan it. Like what the fuck is that? Dark universe just sounds stupid. But there's a lot of people say man I wasn't where it about either one of those man. I wouldn't even trying to get with those. I was worried about that. Scooby Doo. We going to get that. And that's what I'm waiting on right there. One of what? Am I going to get to find out when when when Scooby Mesh Shaggy had a shaggy meet the mystery gang? Might you bring the whole university. You know I've been dreaming of the day that Shaggy and Scooby get to hang out with Fred Flintstone man. What does that happen? Batman versus Superman Scooby versus Flintstone. Well it looks like that's happening now courtesy and WANNA brothers since the ship didn't work this shit near La. Hey we only get superman and Batman came bringing scattered shaggy. Scooby will absorb a lot of universities already. They have so the Hanna. Barbera universe might as well be one they exploit exactly man. Should we got all these characters up here at ain't really interacted. Yeah let's go ahead and make that heaven thing is it was going to be on the big screen but now they with his universe straight to your home. This was supposed to be in that confident. That that big controversy of movies going straight to. Vod when they were supposed to go to the theater. I oh you know it's funny man. Who would have thought that a talking dog and some sang controls would have caused all this chaos kerfuffle. Will you stop and think about it? If something's GonNa Cause Kerfuffle it would seem like trolls magical creatures. Yeah talking talking animals. Trolling trolling noggin. You ask them yeah man but is here right now in the question remains at this moment all right. Is Your kids looking forward to this. But did it really deserve to go to the big screen? Does this show then. Yeah home where you'll ask should have been the whole time. We're going to answer that question. At least an opinion what we think about it as we can to our review for school. But we're going to watch this trailer. I which I'm sure you've you've seen already but nothing's wrong with refreshing go ahead washes trailer for school. And we'll be right back with our review. Do you realize where we are looking at the clean modern aesthetic the cool blue color Palette Mike token teary just like you shaggy. And Scooby were taking this. Blue Lake game down from the sky and beamed them up. I can't breathe. I have to zoom that. If they were with their friends they wouldn't have been kidnapped. Okay can you skip the emotional punishment? He some guy on the scooby and shaggy. I don't know but I'd like to shake hand. Whoever created this and then you know throw that handed prison for trying to kill our friends. Do this mangy strays coming with me. Is Not a stray? Okay then I'll hang. He's names eastern Middle Name. Last name do gentleman welcome aboard. This isn't about some guy in a rubber mask would have gotten away with this. The word for you mentally you hang on hang on. Where am I blue? Dd When I say Falcon Fury. That's supposed to cue the balloons great. Great Timing Might WanNa buckle do you do this can lead us to our culprit Qingqi's? Apparently he's been stealing Netflix's by using his mother's account dot is not fair for the rest of us. Who have to pay for Netflix. Pay for Netflix. If you want you over and drovers here we'll look cool. Her new movie is an origin story. Heroes should want the rock to play me happen so looking at this right here so it took a pandemic to let you all know that does belong on vod it. It took a death on a global scale to. Let's all know that this this should at home to hold really. Y'All really to ask yourself before the before the virus happened. I wonder if this blow them. The big screen. You know what maybe is so much? Scooby Doo masks all that bullshit. I'm Larry Millennial my God so funny Jelly Scooby until Yeltsin extreme really hit Kobe Mateen. Y'All may we should put this little. Okay I'd look I'm not. I'm not saying that I I hate this. I'm not saying that I love it. I will say that that should probably did not need to be on the big screen unless they just had a angle somewhere that they thought that the kids were just GonNa beg their parents so much to see scooby. Doo Mystery game on the big screen that they thought that they can make money in the theaters can make some coin too. I mean it's easy to see how they might have looked around and saw. Well it's not like competition. Yeah no that's true and hey look at the time. It wasn't a big question. You know theaters came big screens. King so I I see it but I'm sure it's almost like it's almost like corona just slap this slept Cincinnati really. You WanNa put this up there really okay. And it's probably a lot of people who were like. Put It in the theaters now yet. Yeah listen let me explain why it's not like I'm sitting appear to run snobbish against this movie. I'm not I'm not it's not like I'm rooting against this was actually. I'll be honest with you. I grew up Hanna. Barbera man Love hanna-barbera. So I put this on my list of movies that I wanted to see most in twenty twenty twenty twenty. Yeah that's right. You do because they were going. I thought it sounds Kinda stupid now when I say Baghdad like Oh my God. I had about barriers cinematic purse. Oh Shit that'd be kind of cool. If they had done it certain way. Yeah it probably could have been the right be. Is there good budget. I just want to want to do the bare minimum. And I'll tell you why. Listen I got legitimate reasons why. I think that this does not belong up on the big screen. I have a feeling is seeing the movie on the big screen knob would come out saying why are they? Put it up here. Sure other than money. Ma Let me TV property. Yeah I understand. Tv property is all go to the screen all the time and make money. I have no. I have no problem with school going to the big screen. I was looking forward to explain. Why two main reasons why this looks like it did not belong on the big screen. One is the production. The animation animation in this choppy yams rendered all that. Well it's not. It's simple is very simplified. Yeah because I'm not look I'm not saying it's bad I'm not even complain about it being bad like if I watch watched on video I'll be like okay. It's pretty cool for for for streaming animation TV animation but this the animation where everything looks smooth. I'm not talking about the movement talking about Moose smooth moves. I'm talking about the. The texture is a surfaces. Everything looks a little too smooth. It looks almost like rubber or plastic Yeah they look like dolls moving around. Yeah even when even when Baines have texture is still looks like it's too smooth and smoothness that it's generation where it feels like. Wow you didn't have enough money for convincing textures are everything is so smooth. Because you didn't have enough rendering time in a look. Everything was plastic. He almost a robbery in a way. Not In a way that looks good and The movements man. Yeah When you say it doesn't look fully rendered is because what it is in Prague on Douglas? Now you just be on the fucking animation. An animation bitch. I gotta put it really if you look at this. Just hit me people because you're going to see it The the animation movement itself. It looks a it. Looks very stretchy. Because there's no blurs on entities characters like look at look when a man. Blue Falcon comes down right here. Look look at this. There's no this no blurs on the movement. That makes it look natural him. Yeah absolutely that's really bothered me kind of threw me off. I eventually acclimated to it but it took a little while for me. Yeah and Jesus. Dabbling argue that inspired by the two D. Look of Hanna Barbera. I mean if you saw had about Barrett cartoons back in the day this is spoken. Pixar right enough to sixty s saw. Fuck you guys competitive serious. Yeah people this is. I mean compared to what they did back when they were getting real animation. Shit we might as well be in the year. Three thousand with this where everything was just recycled everyday exactly backgrounds backgrounds and everything characters Harley ever move you can even see they they were moving and Shit with just be fucking up and ship and they shouldn't be. I mean it was messed up man but So you could argue that they just kind doing like Maybe sort of a take on some of the cheap animations they did back in the day but it looks better now. Basiji but I would even argue that. If they're taking this from the Tutti past of Hanna Barbera there are people who are doing things with Tutti with with. I'm sorry three. Cg animation today and they're given it sorta but Tutti look are stop motion Britain. They're being very creative with it into the spider verse. You know have like a painter look on there are you know they make the it's all CG but they make it look like as to d everything has sort of a flat payment service on acrylic surface. This people a lot of people starting to do that right now. They got the movie connected. That's coming out pretty soon where they play with. The seed A. C. G. Animation Like you know sort of a two-day style or more a more penalty style. We saw that done with things. Like Claus Claus. Yeah and the peanuts may be exactly sold this. I'm telling you I don't think were going for a d. Look I think it was more of a? We got this property. We don't have a whole lot of time. So keep it simple. Yeah Generic. Cg Three DC. That's what it looks like. It doesn't look like a whole lot and if we got time we'll do but don't count on it. Now there are some moments where does look cool Highly stylized rate their their their jaws of now that push back very much a amish to the sixties carts Yup Yup and his highly stylized looks cool. Even like there's a little more you know Texture texture into it. I know some points where it looks. They style scenes in. I might even just do something as simple as just play with monochromatic colors and whatnot. It looks cool right there. Man which again is kind of a throwback to Hanna Barbera old school but yeah overall though that you don't have that kind inspired look through the whole film even then you could argue that. Hey look in again. You being kind of animation there man. You know you you combing yourself always say it ain't about the animation all the time it's about the story you know you always eight of the story is good. You can always hold up Shitty animation just plain animation. And you are correct. I have said that too bad stuff. I mean it's like it's just like the story bad bad but the story here. They have made a story that is that is so ridden for kids. They made they made every mistake. They could've made with a movie like this. Starting a universe and not understand the property that they have not actually having the characters with the movie supposed to be about interact with each other fact separating them every mistake they could've made they. Did it step possible when you have so many examples out there right now? Say like don't do this and we're going to do that. No don't do that. Like what are the fact that it's a movie about scooby? Doo and you barely have the mystery game together in the beginning and for the most of the field. They're completely separate. And you have them have scooby and shaggy really. It's their film and alongside the Blue Falcon. What does this movies? New Interpretation WHO BALCON and all these guest stars and Cameos as like okay. This is just window-dressing not giving this any time for people to really get to know these people at all and they have voiced m my some of the voice acting. This is absolute shit. I mean I think it's embarrassing. What they did not even saying like hey get the same voice actors been doing it for twenty years. Let's go get someone who sounds like shaggy and not this guy. What in this moving you get a guy will forte. He sounds like us do and Shaggy. He got he has. It's like some guy on this some schmuck on the street doing shaggy's voice. That's who they got doing this. It's embarrassing daily. More what you're saying. Don't remember apologize. God Damn I thought I would be. I'm sick of I'm sick of their universes now. It's like you get no you. You don't get any caveats. Don't get any like well. I'm tired of it even shaggy. Scooby like what are we? What are we say existed? That's man man really pissed off man marred to watch because he said they made every mistake. That US something like this that you had to go and say like what Niagara You explained. It scares me. You know man well be okay. You'll you'll do you read you are. He's really the steam coming on my years that fan boy and furthermore take on bridge. How couldn't you include? Well let me put my the rest review. Took recused myself from News Milton. Okay well I think we can agree so I think I'm safe. That's good. Listen this is I agree with you. One of the things that I thought that they could have done well because they were aiming to do something and they messed up because while they had this big plan they narrowed it down to this one thing and that is they made the so much of a kid's movie and it's not be saying man is the case Moby is problem. Well it's there's a difference between kids movies and family films. Sure say time and this was aiming and I can give you certain examples. How is this was aiming to be family film because you know when you think of family films you think of movies? Where is something that families parents would take? Kids is it justifies over fifty dollars possibly to go the theater because the parents will find a little something to enjoy in the movie as well as well as the kids. You know There's little appears to enjoy here. If you ask me Martha I'm apparent. I enjoy growing back now. I will say this. Listen unless unless you are Hanna Barbera fan which I know you are I. Am You raise them? I was GonNa Style is so hard that you just lose your shit at the site of any kind. Bitterness Taljaare had about barricade to that comes along like Carlos still here. No we would hurt. Boy He would've you're right. We would hurt him. Because when I watch this man so Carlos I took some film Carlos passionate very passionate Carlos mob mob Puerto Rican Sun. This watching this was. Did you washes which daughters? No Okay you send it to me very very good so know watching this with Carlos a man who was almost thirty years old. It was like watching this with my six year. Old Puerto Rican child. Everything that he was he was squealing. Everything every time something popped up a new character popped up. He thought he recognized something from back in the day. Like my God Jess Jessa. Oh Oh who I take. It is does like Jesus and my wife watching this and she just got up and said Goodnight Shaw. She's she could take. I feel like if you live with a sitcom she'll be their character that the wait for her to reach that point. All right. That's enough to go on the road. And it'd be thunderous. Watch anticipation going to be the thing this her phrase good night. I'm going to talk for men IMO. He was Caitlin Mahoney. Ads found that foul audience. In Him. You tell you what he did the the whole movie he started out when you start out with it start out. He did because I was having fun with him. Let's start out ahead old. Cg version of the original. He was up there in the whole time. He was schooled. It'll be well. We got work to do and I just I was like. I don't like Scooby school so you had that experience where you're watching something that you're join but some. I was laughing so hard and you going. I think that need it and how many seriously school was edge of your seat entertainment for Carlos Carlos that he was watching with like. Oh No is a who who good night at all that. Oh Shit just jess at in a good. It was good but I wouldn't see it in a theater. Yeah that Carlos Kid. I know I got a friend who does it. Every time to invest was okay. Almost choked his. You know I understand people. Here's my problem with. It's for people like us to that. Because they're they're actually pitching like are you a Hanna. Barbera fan been. School is going to be all walk down. Memory Lane for you. Happy Walked Down Memory Lane but the way that they work that in there is so bad because they all of this is really geared towards kids. Man is a long as STU- No I get it. Yes Scooby. Doo was a Saturday morning cartoon but they did nothing to get past what they were doing back in the day with that. I don't even think they'd be that. Clever witty actually is the same thing every week. I doubt they don't do enough to kind of make fun of yourself to work on doing enough Parodies self satire tactic justify this nostalgic again. I as bad but you know I'll tell you why because here's the thing you might enjoy it as a as a handlebar bear fan but even at it. Let's say you all hardcore Hanna. Barbera fan you. You'd pay fifty dollars to wash this because you love hanna-barbera that much you've got to admit that they change these characters for the worst day ever. We got modernized. Y just doesn't need to be modernized out again. That's one of the big mistakes that this makes. Yeah exactly. Let's let me to start out with this. Nobody questions back in the day. They were thirty minutes long. And it was so fucking weird. They didn't explain it. It will just like all right sure. What's your boy Captain Caveman? I used to love now used to go to the house. Is the boy. Put knocking shit over. I used to love Captain Caveman back in the day. Three teenage girls found stuff in a cave somewhere. And of course like with everything. Teenagers found a talking shark. Octopus talking dog. What did they do they go and bitch are some solvent? Mississau- star solve mysteries man. Me Stop Them. You know he had. He had a speech impediment on. Good Burger me. Stop them older now. I want to listen to what we have here today. I'm just GONNA play a little sample. You remember touted boomer back in the day here is today. How let's brains probably understand me that I'm just tracing Morgan as a fucking caveman? This is just that the motherfucker is what just come out and say. Hey everybody Morgan. I mean it just what he should have say but up Princeton as call to a goes in and says well. Somebody says something him about where they came from like. You'll bless dope like. Oh Jeez. Where's where's the longer the PGA nowhere to be seen? Nowhere to be seen. Does you get your choice? Morgan? I'm not to to do pleased with it. And that's got him for because it was Tracy Morgan. Somebody love Tracy Morgan so much. Apparently he has a really good agent. That didn't even give a fuck about trying to get somebody that sounded like Captain Caveman. Like listen I'll give a fuck. I like Lib I can. I can live without this care not. I'm not that hard headed by Barry Fan. Well known trump Drennan after school. But the thing is if you're gonNA try to do this this whole thing you're going you're going to make a kids movie but try to put some in there for the people who love Hannah by bear them make the fucking care like they were back in the day care at all. I mean as I say kids will be okay with that. 'cause they don't fucking know but you know being grew up with it so like okay for the kids. But if you're trying to do this and that's that's why don't you do Dinamo Dinamo? I remember dynamite back in the day. The falcons loyal trusted dumb. As and I can done brain. You go scoreless off as the person. Yeah okay so so. Here's the here's your dying today. Four blue yes. I am a Blue Falcon. Sued has a bigger red F on the chest and it's scaly their feathers. It's called an upgrade this. Your daddy's Blue Falcon. I think he mean to Saint Your Daddy's Blue Falcon. Allow me to introduce you. Who is this watered-down asshole right here? I mean dodges changes without telling anybody. That's why watch Kenji on during the voice now the fuck did he was a neat. The unless you just felt like well. You know this million challenge motherfuckers not very day. We can't do that. I mean I guess but you'd even try to even be any kind of reasonably close to that. They thought they were being clever. Hey guys let's reverse the roles so dino months the the competent one end Blue Falcon. He's the Moron GonNa love. That thing happens all the time. But he the funny. You won't even care to just boring. The thing is I actually i. I thought I was kind of like this. But it kept being repeated all his jokes over and over and over again and repeat a joke over and over again. That's just makes him more funny. And so that's why I was like okay. This is stick to be kind of that dry sense of humor the same things over again. This is boring at that point. Thank you David. Letterman made a career. That's true that's why I didn't even let him in. But he wasn't a robot. God down dog seem to transform. He's never know but until that day I can tell you already know here. I know I know. I know it's out questioning. Yeah I can tell you today. You'll be like look on it. It's not that I know about this. Oh I'm just getting ready to throw high stomach. He's makes me go like don't WanNa put his hand in 'cause he could lose even thing is like I don't mind you even changing the characters around but they're not making clever use of. Yeah Captain Caveman. Look if you change them around chase him around. I'm not opposed to change at all. Do want change them around. That's fine but they don't do anything with him in the story man they just put him in there. It's a cameo as a cameo because well we'll just trying to put this universe together. Somehow we can actually do a good story with us so we just throwing them in insane. I don't even have anything to do with the movie. Are It'd make just. They don't lend anything to the story. Dick Dastardly man just thrown in. He just comes out of nowhere. I mean yes we know. He's the his you know. He's the legendary Villanova Handlebar Baron. University is the biggest asshole that he's there Donald's but we can go that far. I said he's there analyst. Nobody's competent fucking bearing universe. He's even purple look but he's just thrown him and there's no big introduction is just to say hey y'all remember him just let them here he is no no real clever way to work them into the story. Us just the villain. This is because they're just trying to throw together. In my opinion the reason why these care does seem like they don't have too much of a purpose here is because they're trying to throw together just like they do all these other universes a Hanna barbera cinematic universe. You know and they just they just have to by them in there somehow and in in. Maybe it'll be okay but what's going on here is like it's not even really a Hanna. Barbera universe it just trying to make another superhero film. Yeah it's that's why it doesn't feel like it you know it's because it doesn't center on Scooby and Shaggy in in the in the mystery game they don't play a huge part in. They got funny parts in there with them but there really are trying to turn this into a superhero movie with with the mystery angle of Scooby Doo but they they have like at the end of the movie. Just every typical superhero climax. That we've seen I don't mind big light show climaxes but it doesn't really it's so generic. Lynn's nothing to to the to the film. You know Dan one breath ain't tired of fucking up universities. You don't fucked up drove Batman to drink and now you try to ruin scooby to. There's even characters in here that they don't need that. Listen young practice wronged. I don't mean like this but that black girl had here. Lyn nothing to this. That's a diversity. Higher right there. She's actually Captain Caveman Crew. But remember that like man. She's one of those those three teenage girls. They'd just rewrote the character for this but they gave him nothing. Do your flew. She flew ship it so many times. That's muscle be an intern. She had nothing to really do with the movie man. Yeah I'M GONNA PASS IS GONNA make one more point here. But W W one zero they are aware of the nostalgia. That people will probably see this movie for for those kids that grew up in the seventies and eighties of and Hanna Barbera. They do try to make an attempt at adult humor here. But the the the things that like these so-called corner with adult humor his childish than the than the stuff for children. The jokes for kids. They got a date. I mean for one thing. They don't do it. They just take things they they. They run some jokes into the ground and and funny. The funny thing is is while supposed to be something for for the adults? It's the kids that are laughing because the the joke is so stupid and just so badly executed that just laughing because they just said a certain word. Join Me Scooby. Doo and I will show you how to honest destiny and become the most important dog in the world truly please. I rams over DIJK Lake make. I'm Dick with the with a deep duck. Well well they say said getting data got a Dick. Ain't fun man. That's adult job but told in a way that a kid would respond repetition Rep. Yeah Yeah you know. That's the kind of one and done thing you'd like no not like you know what you're Rick Mava Dick and you move on people like but got to sell that Shit. This ain't that funny man killed it. You killed it on how you feel. I was actually kind of embarrassed because when we first put that up there the very first time you say oh school like we'll see this shit tied and Brain. It'll be yeah and then you show some more of the trailer later and I was like when I see some things here. I WANNA see him looking forward to it all right and then it came off. Start watching it. Send like one in the morning and I was like fuck goes. I think this is all and watch the first six and a half minutes and I went to bed I was like oh finish the rest of Amaro and and then once I picked it back up I found it. I liked it everything after that once. They once they stop being kids and they got to be adults like you know what they actually are capturing so much of the flavor from that original six cartoon which I expected them to completely bowl over and make a lot more generic Yeah it's It's funny because I read that. This movie only appeals to small children and Hanna. Barbera ole school fans and I was like well Faulk S. That's me now. I'm not Carlos was going nuts over the eggs. I notice them as far as we know but It's funny because the changes you guys hate it with Captain Caveman and Dino Tracy Morgan. Yeah he's he's just tracy. Morgan could put some character into it. But we're not stepped back and thought about it. I was like man. I don't Captain Caveman especially dynamite. From back in the day I hated those two characters because I wanted to love them so much but they were so obnoxious so I watch them. Here's I this is a fun. We'LL SWITCH I. I get that yeah I I surprised by all the hate you guys have for but I guess that's your job to oversell it and pretend like you hate stuff that you don't come on the last three weeks rental rental rental joke. I know you yeah I was. I was headed on watching it and I was like. I'm actually. I'm laughing and having a fun time watching this and the everything is about the animation. Absolutely right just look at it. You're like all right. This is the animation that should be on television and about watching it theater but everything else about it. I was like I'm kind of into it. I had fun and as far as them forcing a universe. These characters have crossover in so many different genres either animation or or other books and stuff so much that I even think of. It is universe building and it was like all right. There's another one where they've done this they have. They have a scooby. Doo movie with all the Hanna. Barbera superheroes in it that came out not that long ago they did they do this a lot. But yeah there's so much about it whereas like all right they make fun of the fact that this this whole thing is based on a middle aged guys idea of teenagers of even and as I all right this translated from Hippie the hipsters and they've updated some things and some things they kept much the same but even the gags. It's such a movie that has plays homage to those old gags. And if it ever doesn't do you do for you like on. Its oldest cliche man. I get it I had fun. I don't look I don't hate this but I just think there. And furthermore so things that are well done is clumsy here and again not this and I'm not talking to you talking to Y'all and talking to YOU SCUBA. They try to do some throwbacks to what they were doing back in the day. Anybody Remembers Scooby Doo from back. In the day you watch reruns you watch through rain. You Watch cartoon network you know. There's always a joke. How they brought in stars and back in the day. Nuts Phyllis diller. You Know Harlem globetrotters back in the day. I'm not gonNA say what they do here. But it's a they try to do of those things and it seems Kinda date. It doesn't make super dated. It's like this would have been killed in two thousand four and they bring it back because again. Nothing more funding than doing it. Another time they bring back for another little little ending. Portion there does not earn. Isn't funny out all the celebrities you say. This is the person that you chose cheap and when they did that it was wholly celebrities who are not at the top of their game. It was always like. Oh Yeah I guess they show up on TV too but they're just about washed up. Yeah this one scene and it's funny because it's not washed up. It just seems like really successful. Yeah Granola we're not even trying to say this person washed up. Just just seemed like the audience they were going for. It just seemed like no one cares like why why this person I don't WanNa tell you it is because you'll see it. I don't want to don't want to say a lot. I wish recommend for anybody out there. Want to see it and like I said Man. The story you just seems really so store seems really stretched. It's all over the place. I think they stretch it out. It's stretched out because this in again would me and I think there are certain things that they just don't really need in this movie a go back and look at it for one. I don't think that I don't think you need an origin story. School being Shang. No that was completely misses why I was hating it so much. Beginning as even talking about watch might daughters I was GonNa Watch it with them and I saw this part and I was like guys. Don't even worry about this. This bullshit you that. That's totally unnecessary. If they were going to do that they should have made a movie about a Putney. Scooby Doo they should have made a kids version. They should have made something whereas the movie was an origin film of them in. Go off and do this kind of stuff. We didn't need to see that we need to see you know how they met the mystery gang when they were when they were kids. You know I I don't all this stuff is their first case. The first case that would have been fun on his own but just as a something that just kind of whiz by the movie honestly not. I'm sorry not nothing. There is one thing I thought you know what this is. A modern take that. I really like where these are. All kids coming out of high school and they're they're realizing we've made so much money doing this. Forget college people are hiring us. Let's start our own business. I thought that was that was really inspired in surrealists. Especially for these times. I'm like let's see that story and like no we got this and we're going to bring all these people and give us advice for this and get this going and of course it's ignored. That would have been a great cool but we didn't get too smart for this or live action movie. I'd like to see that in any kind of action animation. Anything is this clever idea. I think you know I guess I mean if they concentrated on the me they concentrate on the mystery gang think it would have been a tighter fill even though the thing is. I did like the mystery game man I I enjoy them. Now here's what we part because I like the man I wish I had seen more of them They they did a few changes with them. Some that are really cool and son like what the fuck. She's what this thing is in grave incredibly. Wait a minute did this Bella Bella. Latina vilnis racing is going back and forth all the time. She's Asian sometimes sometimes white it. Didn't they do a scooby doo cartoon less years? They'd say no she's Asian. Oh I'm talking about it's all over the place for you. Live action thing. They did that but she's she's very much house because after all right. Actress Gina Rodriguez his planners Latino and then and then. She says that I'm started looking at it. Was like your skin a little bit darker and everybody else. Yeah yeah that's what I really changed from. Dinky but yeah. That's what I want to start out like okay. I thought she would just stand I. This inconsolably Oh shit. Fresh who turned around. But like you've been a Mexican puts on a mega head. Get Out of you should know that would be the movie without the without the races. It'd be like literally you're Latino you've been at the whole time. I thought that would have been funny but I was like. You're just GONNA change US without saying anything. You had a moment to be clever with that. You had a moment to actually address slide. The put it in there and not make a big deal out of. I thought it would have been funny if for a movie that wants to like again. Kind of be self reflexive but it's humor. That would have been funny for them to do that to something like that are anything to talk about the changes that happens with these characters. I get you know. You WanNA put some people in there to show diversity and whatnot. But I don't think they're putting diversity in a good way just like we're just putting it in here because again diversity hires doesn't make any sense to me. I don't know why I supposedly really liked. He'll be to make this do mantle be. I liked mark. Wahlberg it's funny because I didn't recognize his voice until he got to the part. We said Jalapeno peppers ours whatsoever. I don't hold up like son of a Bitch. Opposite PROBLEM OF SCOOBY. I could say the man God yeah I. I liked to cause beginning. It's the same gag. He's a social media expert and the constantly emphasized that he's making references to tinder instagram twitter. Facebook it's the same thing you say it's too much of the old thing. And then when they updated go like oh great now using all the new references. No I'm not. I'm not wrong if it I'm not. I'm not mad if they're doing the old thing again for this. It's just that it's the same gag every single time. Because that's all he's defined by is the fact that he's all about social media and that's it and they repeat that throughout the entire the plot but I feel like he's defined by a lot of different things. Yeah Being Coward. You know why because they changed the character and they explained in explained it. You know it wasn't like Oh we just going to make this character different explanation behind it. Yeah you know looking at this sea. Change some stuff. They made it. They made them dumb. Was Awesome Mysteries Bra. I mean I don't I don't mind with the chain of characters but makes up the fun out of it. He had a backstory if they did something with that character. Brian must you recognize? Don't worry I didn't recognize him. You anywhere without him and yet here. I am without him that making. This isn't a dream. You're supposed to pinch yourself. I guess we already had his introduction near where they talked about how he didn't look like the Blue Falcon scaly their feathers. It's called an upgrade. Your daddy's Blue Falcon. I think you mean to say your daddy's Blue Falcon. I mean if you can't tell his desk not the blue. Even teases his son Ryan Br. I liked it man. I thought Mark Wahlberg did a really good job with the voice work in this. Didn't even through take it back. I even problems. Voice is what they do with the character. The bothered me. I've some issues with some voice in this film. And I I WANNA hear those voice activated. Let me let me let me let me pass it off to you. Know I'm a pass enough to you because I'm just GonNa say real quick because we disagree on the voice acting really like Fred Man and also dealing with because you want to look for you know but I really did like Fred and his man did just has some funny lines with Fred to. Because I'm looking at him and and the whole time I was thinking like yeah he just a dumb blonde guy man and even dig dashingly said. He called his as the poor man's Hemsworth which one took a jab at Liam Liam Liam gone through a lot What what do you feel about a we feel about The voice work in regards to the Michigan thing is. It's very clear all well. We covered some of the characters already particularly with Tracy Morgan as Captain Caveman. And the bill. Voiced Velma Daphne and Fred. You know they're just not enough. They really get a lot to do. In my opinion they get gags Kinda Fun. But there's not in it but the one person that I mean we follow mostly and we got again welker returning. I could be doing just fine. Even if the stuff he's given it's like okay. It's very mixed bag. Overall but will forte is shaggy again. He sounds like all of our impressions of Shaggy. So some guy in the street doing impression. The Shaggy is never bought the character. Wow really did as a matter of fact when this was done I fired up. Scooby Doo movie. I was talking about where they have. All the heroes crossover with them. And it's a Matthew Lillard during the voice and just like right after. Listen to this. I was like yeah. They're not that different. Yeah well you Betcha Shaggy I mean it just. I'm not even saying you have to get because there's hope petition out there it's like people were upset like why didn't you cast you? Matthew Lillard or someone like hey you got a guy that sounds like shaggy. I'm fine to me. He just didn't do a good job and I don't think they gave him a lot of good. Dial didn't it never made me laugh on this and people like the movie and some people you know they say in a two man like yeah. I don't I didn't like anything about this. I like shaggy voice movies. Lame like all right so you know who does school would be. That was split as funny. Because that's what I read where somebody say. This movie's GonNa Split viewers down the middle and I was like. Oh come on. It's like okay. Sorry they weren't lying. I mean this country is divided over everything else could through tribalism. Yeah Man. Scooby's destroying theaters in families. Man God damn. I hope this isn't going to happen in around. Thanksgiving shaggy was terrible. What are you talking about? Watch to return some odd striving classic. Shaggy goddamn talking. Oh Man I look. I'm let you guys go ahead and give your opinion man Martinez dog with you sir. Since you you you you enjoy this the most I did I did. I had a fun time with it. You know animations not that great but the most jobs worked for me and it was fun to see those characters and I discovered. I liked them better than I thought. I wasn't as tired of them for me. A Scooby Doo movie. I'm always cringe because I think it's going to be like those two free Prince Junior live action movie those. I think this is a huge cut above that I actually with exception Tracy Morgan. I liked all the voice acting. So that's why I'm really like okay. I don't know what to say and it is it falls category of I get it. It's not your thing you know and course you certainly found things about it. That didn't work for you. I just sat there watching it and going like wow may it is based on it not being terrible like I thought it was going so I totally grant you that but it it was that fun. Walk Down Memory Lane that that nailed the things that I liked and change things. I didn't like so for me. It a matinee and all right to be positive I will say some of the really did like Jason Isaacs as diktats. Who did very good. Yeah Paul Wind Chill and even the joke had where it called me Dick but but he had so many other parts whereas like you know what should they do a good job and I like his story? I liked what he was trying to achieve. I was like okay. That's Kinda sweet. We're dealing with him about side. That yeah this was now for me and we covered all the basics in terms the animation. Loud voice acting but when it comes to down to the end of the day. It's it's repeating the same mistakes we see so often with these reinterpretations adaptations of these properties. Where we have to make everything modern. And let's have all the humor. It's not gonNA call humor. It's just it's just references to things that we have our ordinary life and people will find those references funny but we're not being clever about it whatsoever and we saw this for for years decades and I'm tired of. I'm just sick of it at this point and I'm like I'm not gonNA. I'm not gonNA anyone a break of this now so every time I see this answer constantly like no. I'M NOT GONNA Apologize I. I was thinking rental but now nope this is some old bullshit. This is some old bullshit. I'm tired of it. Is Chris Beck and you move the mobile bullshit. Yeah Where we'LL COLEMAN FALL. Let's see here. Well you know look obviously I am disappointed from things you've heard me say but ultimately there's a movie that just misses its potential because it's doing the basics of what executives. Thanks kids like they're at the end of the movie. Like folks up. This is that there's a just an arbitrary hip hop soundtrack in here just ended. It doesn't play in any scenes. Anything just plays in the background because kids like the HIP hop today. The end of the film. is not a spoiler but I no blue Falcon comes down. He's Dj and and just like why because the kids love the DJ's love and and you gotTa have a dancing at the end. The gotTa dancing was at the end. Just like is what this is. What's wrong with family movie so called family movies? They think that they're doing something clever for the family but really just dumb down because the doing the basics of what they feel like kids enjoy really disappointed me making your birth mega me burke. Meanwhile they're still the problem with. They still hoped to get the older fans in simply on the premise. That hey these are characters in the same movie together and here. Bunch Easter eggs and half those Easter eggs. It's just not the visuals most of them. Madan done during the end credits. I actually thought some Easter eggs with Kinda funny that they did in there in the middle of the movie but really they just a big old crane of Easter a big old basket at the end of the universe. Here it is at the during the end credits and I was like. Wow religious fucking got lazy at the end right here so then hate it. But as someone raised on handlebar who want to like it more of. I say this this is this. Is The story wise? You know in a production wise. It's just descended from the from the very beginning. We're just releasing this at the theaters because we get by on the name and the brand the IP school. Be other than that. You know it's right where belongs right now. It IS A. It's a straight to video release. I like trolls a lot better than I like this man. You know what else to trolls to. Yeah I like trolls a lot better than this. Because that story was tight the music was integrated into the story. Well the production on it looked better. Maybe it's 'cause I just saw that and I'm looking at this. I'm like man you know this wasn't up to that level. So yeah you know. It's it's a rental Reynolds in Hayden. Got To laugh at some things when he did it right. Which was very very small doses. They did it. They did it well but for the most part very very very missed mark right here so yes this gentleman but hey with the kids enjoyed what it comes down to is written for them yes they will join it at home as much as they would have to save the money so yeah. I'm in. I always wonder about something like this. How well it would do at the theater. Scooby Doo is such a TV property. And is a is a history of things that are people see on TV where they go like. Well why are we going out and paying for this can get that for you? Watch on cartoon network. What are you doing sit down? Yeah well you go people who would've known as if we need something else to split this country we just WanNa fight ninety. Who in the House to find love again cartoon dog? Oh we have come together on anything. was counting on you. Scooby Scooby Doo he made through. Yeah he's a sign of the apocalypse. We were actually making progress. And now he brought his assets. Come up here. I said just. Like Shaggy. And Scooby were taking this. Blue light came down from the sky and team them up.

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11 Trivia Questions on a Ladder Round

Trivia With Budds

10:52 min | 11 months ago

11 Trivia Questions on a Ladder Round

"It's eleven trivia questions on a ladder round where every answer contains a answer from the previous answer written by Luke McKay in Australia. This is trivia with buds And what it be in. Welcome to another episode of the Trivia with Buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan Buds. Thanks for checking out. My show comes comes out every day so hit subscribe on your device to never miss an episode. I'm recording right now at high point brewing. Sandy Miss California. You could check out this very cool. Beer can crowder. If you're watching along on Youtube. which is a new feature of the shell usually and Youtube? It would just upload a audio file with a still frame of my logo but now all I wanted to add just a little bit more for twenty twenty so I'm recording all the episodes in a row on the first day of the week on Monday I'll record all seven episodes and will tournament throughout the rest of the week. But I'm here at high point brewing one of my favorite places to have a beer and they have these crawlers. We can take home any beer. You want that they make here. They have some really fun named Beers here like like the Nice Day they also have the drunk as a monk Belgian quad. And the brand. New Sabra in Space Hazy. So if you live anywhere we're near southern California make a trip a little further east out to San Dem- and stop by high point brewing to grab a brew. Today's episode is a Latte around. I like doing these at my live events which I do Oliver Southern California and you can find those locations at Trivia with Buds Dot Com. I do the latte around where every answer helps you the next answer because it really makes you feel smart when you can figure it out with a tiny clue. which is the word from the previous answer? Starting with the first one so for example if the answer to number number one was high point brewing question number two would have high point or brewing in. Its answer so the answer number two might be high fidelity the movie and then the next one might I be infidelity or something like that. So it's it's fun. It's fun to try and climb that ladder and my friend Luke McKay. WHO's been listening? I think since the beginning to the podcast he sends me a lot. aww Cool emails with a lot of cool questions and he has a fun one today. Where one word carries over climbing up the ladder or down the ladder? So if you miss a question you can always I think backwards and go okay. I know that I missed number. Five number six. We'll have one of the words in number five so that might help you as well so keep that in. Mind when you're playing along on all right we've got eleven of these questions for you. I'm going to read them to you. You can yell out. If you're listening to the show you could battle a friend. You could write them down whenever you want to do. This show now is for you and we're going to do eleven questions on a ladder round right now here we go all right. Here's question number one for Luke. Luke McKay's ladder round bunch questions bunch of random facts. Let's see how many you can get right question number one a marvel superhero team including characters like Ecus search and it's also an upcoming twenty twenty m. c.. You movie question number one question number two. Which two thousand four Jim Carey Film won the Oscar for best original screenplay which two thousand four Jim Carrey film won the Oscar for best original screenplay? Remember the answer to this. One will contain one of the words from the previous answer question number. Three one hit wonders. Lan had this one hit in nineteen ninety. Nine one hit wonders. Len Elian had this one hit in nineteen ninety nine questioned before a live action movie and short lived animated series. Were based on which one thousand nine hundred six plush toy which was a blue furred creature with horns fangs and a set of orange handcuffs number. Four what was that call number four question question. Five which motor sport event currently airing on N. B. C. S. N. features trucks such as grave. digger Scooby Doo. Zombie and El Toro Oro Loko question. Five question number for six. The website for which movie is one of the oldest sites currently operating being famously unchanged since the film's release in Nineteen Ninety six. I know this one question number six the website which movie is one of the oldest sites currently operating being famously unchanged since the film's release in one thousand nine hundred six question number. Seven which Hanna Barbera Superhero had sidekicks named Jas Jan Jan and blip the monkey he also hosted his own talk show for eleven seasons. Who was that Hanna? BARBERA superhero question number. Eight which Manga series is called mobile armored riot police in Japan and was adapted opted into a two thousand Seventeen Scarlett Johansson movie. What is the name of that series question number nine which actress which actresses most famous role was as Mrs Burns in the two thousand in eleven Frankie Muniz and Diamond Dallas Page Classic Pizza Man? She also had a part in cheers as Diane Chambers. Who is that actress questioning? Pretend Natalie Portman Jerry Seinfeld Mariah Carey and WWe superstar for stars. Zack Ryder all come. From what part of the State of New York. What part of New York do they come from? Your bonus. Two point questions still climbs the ladder so will contain a word from the previous answer to number ten and here it is for two points H. G. Wells novel adapted into a nineteen seventy seven. Burt Lancaster Michael York movie and in one thousand nine hundred ninety. Six Val kilmer Marlon Brando remake was called what. What was the name of that novel slash slash movie? That was made twice. Those are all your questions for today's lat around by Luke McKay Great Questions Luke. And we'll be right back in just a second with the answers. We're back with the answers to the ladder round. Hopefully you had some time to ponder these maybe take a little break. Rest your mind do some yoga meditate. And now we're back here's question number one a marvel superhero team including characters like ASC and Fina also an upcoming twenty twenty. MCI movie was the journals so we started this whole ladder by climbing up to the eternal question number. Two which thousand four Jim Carrey film won the Oscar for best original screenplay implant that will be eternal sunshine of the spotless mind great movie one of my wife's favorite movies and the word attornal carried over there question number. Three one hit wonders land. Had this this one hit in one thousand nine hundred nine that was steal my sunshine steal my sunshine. Pretty Lame Sung number four live action movie and short lived animated series where based on which nineteen eighty-six plush toy which was a blue furred creature with horns fangs and a set of orange handcuffs. My pet monster. I know one big fan of my pet monster is my friend and Dan polly doors from Chicago who makes amazing artwork go followed Dan. polly Doris death by toys on instagram. He loves loves my pet monster question number. Six which motor sport event currently airing on N. B. C. S. features trucks as grave digger such as grave digger. Scooby Doo Zombie and El Toro Loco. That was monster jam. So monster carry over there to monster jam and number six website for which movie is one of the oldest sites currently operating being famously famously. Unchanged since the film's release in Nineteen ninety-six space jam. So we carry jam over there for Monster Jam to space jam. Then we had which Hanna Barbera Superhero had sidekicks had kicks named Jason Jan.. And Blip the monkey he also hosted his own talk show for eleven seasons that was space ghost and his show is called Space Ghost coast to coast or just looking for space. Ghost is there a space carried over then which Manga series was called Mobile. Armored Riot Police in Japan and starred Scarlett Johansson two thousand Seventeen American movie ghost in the shell so ghost carried over ghost in the shell. Then we carried part of Shell over to shelly along the actress. Who is in the movie as Mrs Burns? The the Frankie Muniz Diamond Dallas Page Classic Pizza Man and she also had a part in cheers Diane Chambers Shelley Long. Then we had the birthplace of Natalie. Portman Jerry Seinfeld Mariah Carey and Zack Ryder. They are from Long Island New York Long Island New York in your bonus. Two point question H. G. Wells novel adapted into a nineteen seventy seventy seven. Burt Lancaster Michael York movie and Nineteen ninety-six. Val kilmer Marlon Brando remake was the island of Dr Moreau. 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The Flintstones, Varsity Blues, The Eternals, Mortal Kombat, Paper Girls, & The Mandalorian

/Film Daily

24:31 min | 1 year ago

The Flintstones, Varsity Blues, The Eternals, Mortal Kombat, Paper Girls, & The Mandalorian

"Whoever when a welcome to slash home daily for Friday July Twelfth Two Thousand Nineteen on today's episode we're GonNa talk with the latest film and T._V.? News this is slash home editor in chief Peter Surata during the Spycatcher Slash Film Managing Editor Jacob Hall Elo in Weekend Editor Brad Omen me it writer Chris Evangelista. Hello folks it's Friday once again happy times <hes>. We have a bunch of news to get to so what cooler it's been pushed back till Monday. Hopefully we'll get got to then <hes>. Let's first start with the foot stones which is getting a new animated series for adults Brad. What do we know yes? There's a new flintstones adaptation that is in the Works Warner. Brothers animation wants to bring the flintstones back <hes> they've really been pushing to bring a lot of the Hanna Hanna barbera cartoons back in a different way and this one will be <hes> working with Elizabeth Banks Production Company to make it happen. Unfortunately that's really all we know at this point. There's no network attached to it. <hes> and it's just a apparently some kind of original idea to make a new primetime flintstone series that will be geared towards adults now. The idea of gearing towards adults isn't necessarily a new concept because the original flintstones was essentially geared towards adults back when it came out it was a prime time animated network Sitcom it was intended to be kind of the spoof of the honeymooners <hes> I would imagine that in this case the idea of making for or adult means it will be a little bit more edgy and probably not for kids. The Classic Clemson's cartoon is Tame enough due to the time it came out that it's works pretty well for kids essentially since the ads for cigarettes that came out during the time are no longer attached tested those episodes but yeah other otherwise you know there's no specifics about what the idea could be. The one idea that I thought of maybe a new approach to the Flintstones is taking that family and somehow bringing them to modern day. I'd say that seems kind of of a departure of what the Flintstone is but it could still be an interesting approach to kind of make it a little refreshing but I know I know. Jacob has hasn't thoughts on this yeah a couple of years years ago D._C.. Comics ran a twelve issue limited series of a review of the flintstones written by Mark Russell and those traded by Steve Pugh and it was a deeply unusual and many of the panels and pages <hes> were shared online viral because out of context incredibly strange <hes> but even in context strange and it's a really fantastic <hes> cover book that uses the Flintstones iconography in ways that are very surprising rising and very adult oriented definitely not for children and to me if it was like the last word on the flintstones if it's like such a brutal inversion dissection of the Flintstones as a concept that I don't know what is left to say with these characters I mean talking about comic series or the gist. The gist of this comic is that the funds zones are from the first generation of Caveman cave people to have civilization they grew all grew up is traveling nomads bads their grandparents. All don't like the idea of settling down there the first people to have homes in the have cities and about adults trying to create civilization and the <hes> trying to grapple with the crisis this of being a human being in a civilized world at it is incredibly unsettling and funny and timely and I don't know what else is even left to say after that if the flintstones was originally meant to be a parody of of television at the time <hes> that comic took it to be a satire on human angst in general. I don't know what jokes are left. I don't know what references are left. I don't understand how you look at the comic and say Yeah. There's more to be done here. In any way whatsoever occur many people have not read this comic. Do you think this could be a translation of that comic in some way. Oh no I there's no way to make this comic. It is so specific and so strange doctors issue the funds. Don't always had the joke okay how have animals that are like you know. The washing machine is an animal. The vacuum machine is an animal undulating subplot about the two tools which are baby dinosaurs who live in the closet and struck up a friendship when they're not being uses tools and it's tragic and heartbreaking and really upsetting anders no way it's made and there's no way anybody has the nerve to <hes> take a fun zone comic series typing official zones product endorsed by Hanna Barbera. It is a eviscerating the hake down on the flintstones. I there's nothing left ear. Peter is is there anything left here the vitamin their mascots and I don't think you can have people take them seriously him as jokes anymore beyond beyond being either amass shelf or being like a really profound comic satire. I really don't know I don't know what the take is here. I do know that I grew up watching the flintstones and the jetsons and I enjoyed them a lot and I feel like there's nothing really on T._v.. Like that maybe I don't watch enough animated stuff like I know everybody says the simpsons but I don't I I think the flintstones had a quality to them that the simpsons don't. I don't know I suppose there's I suppose there's always a chance that maybe making like shift the rules. A bit with the family where we're like Fred isn't the one going off to work and we'll ms especially with <hes> someone like Elizabeth Banks on board as a producer Chris. Do you have any thoughts on this. Is there any way to do the flintstones for adults nowadays <hes>. I don't know they can they could like the flintstones is making that bedrock yeah. I don't think that's going to happen. It's never know stranger things have happened speaking of which they're making a Varsity Blues TV series. I guess but it's furthest new Q._B.. Network Chris voted me now. Is it Q._B.'s at Qube. I say quitting clubby Q._B.. I've I've got to go because it sound stupider. I like to say that the worst thing possible must be short for quick bite and that okay qube so quimby which is short form content streaming service coming out next year where instead of traditional thirty minute or hour long shows the shows are going to be broken up into sort of ten minute blocks. The idea is to appeal to people you don't have time to sit down and watch such a full show or and people who watch things on their phone you know stuff like that. So if that appeals to you you might WANNA check out qube and they're going to have a varsity blues show on there which is based on the nineteen ninety nine in <hes> football drama about high school football players. <hes> James Vanderbeek was in it. Paul Walker was in it <hes> The foo fighters music was in it. It was a big thing in one thousand nine hundred nine the commercials were were. We're on all the time for it and they're turning it into a show. I don't really know how I guess. They're going to do it like they did <hes> Friday night lights which is sort of like the same idea. I guess I guess I'm going to go for that and <hes> yeah what is what is the purpose of Versity Blues T._v.. Show nowadays in a world that we have had Friday night lights. I feel like that has captured that world in a better way yeah but Peter this is shorter so. It is it's going to be in quick bites so Chris. What if I don't want your quick bite TV show no boy but also Doug Doug Limon's involved with can't like write that off completely well? He's not doing the he's doing a completely different show yes doug. Lyman is doing a show called <hes> crazy talented and the basic premise is it's people in a mental asylum who might superheroes which is also the same exact plot as glass so <hes> I don't. I don't really know how that's going to turn out yeah. I'm not sure maybe maybe I'm really wondering if we're going to subscribe to this I mean you own when you run a streaming calm or streaming columns for slash film. Are you going to subscribe to Qube. Oh no probably I can't see that happening but like think about it Chris Crest you you don't have to invest our of your time. You just gotTa invest like what what is it like. Just a few minutes plus didn't Spielberg doing something for Quincy. I my plan is whenever the Spielberg thing is available. I will email qube and say please give me a screener of this. That's that's my opinion qube. Okay let's move on to marvel of rumors. COMECON is gearing up next week in San Diego and a lot of people have been speculating on what kind of announcements are going to have including casting rumors for the internals Brad what we do yes people can't wait until COMECON happens next week to find out all the news that Marvel Studios has plans <hes> and there've been some rumors circulating for not even just this week but just kind of over in in recent months about certain cast members joining the movie the eternal which is will help expand the cosmic side of the marvel cinematic universe. There's been reports from trays. There's been rumors that popped up online elsewhere from <hes> less reputable readable outlets to the biggest ones have been rumors that Millie Bobby Brown and reports that to me on Yanni will have roles in the internals <hes> with Millie Bobby Brown this rumors been kicked around for a while but it only recently recently became reinvigorated because variety did this whole spread on maybe what to expect and what might happen at Marvel's comic con panel and all of a sudden people started running with that like oh I'm going to be in the journals and we got so big that she felt that she had to address on her instagram and a live video that it wasn't something that she and her family knew about so if that's happening than it's maybe it's like a last minute deal that Marvel's going to try to do but it sounds like unless she's very good good at lying and keeping a secret that Millie Bobby Brown probably won't be in the internals Kumail Nangiani on the other hand that was a report that came from the trades and he was recently asked by variety as well about his potential involvement. He did the standard. I can't really comment on that. But of course it'd be excited to be in a superhero movie. What gives us a little bit more evidence? That probably is going to be in the journals is there was a recent men's health profile about him and he's been working out and working with a personal L. trainer because he realized that the the one thing that was keeping him from getting <hes> bigger leading man roles and like doing more action stuff was the fact that he was not you know in super great physical shape not that he was out of shape necessarily but he's not toned isn't a lot of muscle work so it sounds like he's probably doing the same kind of thing Chris Pratt to get in shape <hes> for guardians of the Galaxy and then Kevin Feige he was asked about these two and he also said he's like he's like those these great actors that ain't GonNa firm right now. The additional name that he was asked about was Donnie yen who has also been rumored for this movie by the same kind of thing where they're just not ready to announce anything yet and really basically we just have to wait until comic on to find out what they're gonNA tell us. I think maybe all your Brown's. Liar I think she'd give me onstage comic with you. We'll see we'll see <hes>. I'm really curious what they're gonNA show us a COMECON and I think I finally realized Brad that the only thing that's keeping me away from being in a marvel cinematic the University of them is I'm not working at so so media doing that debt salads okay. Let's move on to mortal combat <hes> they once did a mortal Kombat movie. I think some people consider sitter it to be the best video game movie of all time. I'm not sure if that's true or not. No no no way no way people consider it to be their favorite like if you go most of them. If you look at this on the Internet it is up there that resident evil level and I think like maybe tomb raider. I think the top three I think it's just thrown them all. Even that's not a great movie yeah <hes> well looks like they're gonNa make another mortal Kombat movie and this was GonNa be rated R. Jacob. What do we know yeah? We know about this mortal Kombat reboot for some time at James Wan of conjuring command famous producing and commercial director Simon McCoy is making his directorial feature debut at it and it's still a little ways away. I think we're expecting a twenty twenty one release date but screenwriter Greg Russo tweeted since it's already been stated by other members of the team. I'M GONNA put us on the bed. Mortal combat will be R. rated for the first time ever fatalities will finally be on the big screen. You have the movie and see so those we don't speak video game fatality refers to combat fighting game where two players face off you know pummel each other bits and once you get a player you enter a series of button presses justice department before fatality which is an incredibly gruesome bloody. <hes> spines being ripped out heads being knocked off people being skinned alive brutal way to declare the me is world famous was put on the map and competed the P._G.. Thirteen Birla combat and thirteen sequel annihilation are very much children's movies whereas the whole appeal of moral combat in the nineties when I came out is that if transgressive it was saying kids could play it was so gruesome hardcore over the top that Congress literally used as a whipping boy for the beginning ministry it was it was played like literally in front of Congressman to try to explain why videogame rating system so we've come full circle here the game series known enforce violence is finally getting violent adaptation that arguably deserved more combat unless you being edgy and his violent as humanly possible I'm wondering is this a problem with video. Game movies that you know Hollywood is wants the I._P.. They want to they want the fans that are excited about these properties to come over and buy tickets but they end up at like adapting these things into things that don't it closely resemble the original product and <hes> you know I think we had that problem with comic book movies and the earlier days and <hes> video game movies like you know you're getting stuff. That doesn't quite capture what what the video game is like. Are we finally getting around to the age that that Hollywood is getting it like the reason why people like mortal Kombat was the fatalities and stuff. I hope so I mean real combat is the appeal of it it is that it's incredibly violent. Take stuff incredibly seriously but it's also incredibly stupid knowingly so and it's such a bizarre combination and something that I really hope they can pull off. I'm not sure the exact approaches reboot is taking but if you can capture like the most recent games especially have have really leaned heavily on story and character in a way no one expected and away that are actually pretty satisfying so I think there is actually a really good movie mind here. You take the enter the. Dragon format of fighters from different from around the world entering a tournament some fighters alter dimensions. There's a big fantasy twist and you played all straight faced <hes> but knowing the <hes> but but be aware that is all very silly. I think they see the capture that balance which is tough and I am curious to see if they can pull it off here but you know what I hope they do. You know what they need. They Need Zach Snyder. I feel like he unknowingly pull that off like you know he wouldn't think he's making a a silly movie. He'd be pulling it trying to make it seriously and I feel like the result could be exactly what you described Jacob. I mean I have no idea I've always acted humor whatsoever but I think the accidental one so yeah you know what bring it on <hes> you know and also I hope this filmmaker <hes> McCoy D- <hes> David fincher may commercials before he directed good so you know what Mr McCoy. I'm ready for you to impress me. There's a lot of filmmakers that started out in commercials Ridley Scott even a Dan Trachtenberg who is making the uncharted movie so there you go <hes>. Let's move onto paper girls offices a comic book series Bryan Cave on <hes>. It's very popular in the age of stranger things and now it is getting TV series from Amazon Chris. What do we know <hes> yes paper girls setting the eighties got kids kids on bikes so even though the comic series predates stranger things I am almost positive Amazon who now have the rights to a paper girl series sat around and said we need our own stranger things? What can we get and they they went for this sort of similar to how they sat around saying? We need our own game of thrones. What can we get and then they they spent millions and millions of dollars on Lord of the rings so I haven't read paper girls because I had this weird thing with comics where I don't read them until their run is finished? I don't know why just like an O._C._D.. Thing where I don't Wanna read if it's ongoing I want like I think one of them is coming though tumor issues almost Chris all right well when it comes to an end I will finally read it but I just don't like starting reading something. If I it's not finished I just have a thing about that but but everything I've heard about it has been really good and really positive and even though it set in the eighties it it's not like nostalgic for the eighties stranger. Things is <hes> you know it's more about showing that the eighties weren't as as good as people seem to pretend they were <hes> so everything I heard about it is really cool and it will probably make a good T._v.. Show if you know in the right people are involved Stephanie Folsom who co wrote tour story four is is writing the script so i. I don't know if if she's the right person for this or not but I guess we'll say I would stranger things came out. A lot of people people that were not a fan of that first season. Were like you know if you didn't like stranger things you should read paper girls and I read the first <hes> volume of this and it is great it <hes> is it a spoiler. Ah Jacob to say that this involves time travel or is that part of the premise departments by wouldn't say how time travel is involved yeah <hes> but I you are a big fan of the series right. Oh it's phenomenal. I'm all caught up on edge. My seat the final few issues it is. I like strangers there. I see stranger things. I'm not caught up but <hes> paper girls is everything. I want stranger things it'd be. It's assaulted right way. It's critical in the right ways. It uses his eighty setting to critique the past the future future and the present the sci-fi concepts are wild all four lead characters. These peop- delivery girls in the eighties are instantly like wonderful and they're demanding make sense if they can pull this off they can capture the comic. This could be like the next big thing I'm. So excited about this I love everything that Brian K Vaughan rights so I mean if you have not gotten into comics and you're putting off because you don't like the tights like I feel like he's a great entry point into that kind of stuff like Sagas so we're if you like sci fi bye bye you want more Weird Star Wars. You want more weird. <hes> I suggest Saga I love you know y the last man which Hollywood's been trying to turn into move your TV series for the last you know what six seven years now and <hes> paper girls is fantastic. What what else would you recommend from Bryan Cave on X.? Mocking is a series about a ultimate history where a superhero prevents the second tower coming down nine eleven and gets elected in your your elected mayor of New York City <hes> based on celebrity liberty after that anti political series where a guy superpowers tries to keep <hes> New York City you know head to head above water post nine eleven and it is maybe one of the best pieces of art ever seen the deal with the aftermath of that of the timber beloved tax it is is that finished because I immediately went to read that to finish it's done. It's available and widely. It's wonderful all right. I'm going to get that now. There's also I remember reading a book from his but it was more like artsy in poetic. Oh etiquette was called like <hes> pride of Baghdad is that right yeah probably back to real good yeah that was about. I think it was based on a true story where this lying escaped on the streets of Baghdad and like basically imagines the story story of that is that is that right because I think I read this like over a decade ago. Yeah the American invasion of Iraq and <hes> the Baghdad Zoo <hes> is is hit an abandoned and falls a family of lions as they escaped from the zoo and wander round bombed out city trying to survive and it's heartbreaking yeah. It's really good. It's not one of those things that I think could be turned into a movie or TV series perfect as it is a comic but I would highly recommend that as well okay our grasp of news the men delorean <hes>. Is it going to get a second season. Brad apparently Disney things it will or is hoping it will <hes> Jon Favreau is making the publicity rounds because he directed the lion king and it comes. There's two theaters next week and while he appeared on Jimmy Kimmel live this week <hes> there was a brief discussion about the man delorean which John Forever executive produces and also wrote and even though the first season doesn't come out until until November when Disney plus makes its debut as a new subscription streaming service. Apparently he's already working on a second season. He said that he's writing it right now and that that does give some hope that Disney's confident in the series <hes> you know the reaction was break from Star Wars celebration earlier this year where we saw the first footage from it but at the same time this could easily just be you know planning ahead you know just in case it is I I would imagine Disney's probably still waiting to see how audiences react to the first season of the man delorean before they really officially give the green light but they probably still want to know what Jon favreau has. <hes> you know I in store for the the story as it would continue beyond the first season what we do know. Is That d twenty three next month. We're I'M GONNA get another preview this for any get <hes> some previews on the show floor as well as <hes> in the presentations there at twenty three I will be there so we'll have coverage of that then cool yeah so it will be a lot of new stuff about the Mandal Orien- and soon <hes> hopefully they'll be an official trailer released so the everyone who wasn't star wars celebration <hes> can can get a look at it. You saw that softened. I talked about it for the podcast but you are really amped up after seeing that footage right yeah yeah I was super impressed by the footage. It felt like <hes> original Trilogy Star Wars Fan Staff Ahead head style to it all all the cast was fantastic in the today show <hes> and so yeah. I'm excited to see what what they do with the series well. I hope we get some more information as John. Favor makes the publicity around for the Lion King but that brings us then for this week you can find more of all of our stories in today's show notes. 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HBO Max - what about cable?

Talking Tech

03:54 min | 1 year ago

HBO Max - what about cable?

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Credits Page, Episode 7: Jinkies!

Tome Travelers

29:28 min | 1 year ago

Credits Page, Episode 7: Jinkies!

"Hello and welcome to thome travelers this episode I had a chance to sit down and talk with Toby Strauss to talk about his kickstarter for the role playing game gene keys a fun and Funky game based on the mystery cartoons the eighties such as those by Hanna Barbera era but before we get into the interview I wanted to take a quick moment to talk about this season of thome travelers. We've really decided to step up our game and bring you something different this season after all there are several shows out there now doing the retrospective look at roleplaying games since we were one of the first pioneers did look this concept we decided to do something fresh with season two with new music and show format at really up the quality for the show so please stay tuned after the interview for Teaser what what Games will be traveling into next for our main show hi test toby. Thank you so much for joining us here today today. Thank you so much for having. I'm really excited to be here to talk a little about my game so one of my favorite warm up questions is asked game creators how they I got into R._P._G.. Gaming got show gaming. I think I've been in gaming for a long like the most of my life. I guess my first tabletop R._P._G.. Was Shadow run. I played in middle school with my friends from school and that that was just a mind blowing experience from there I went into other other games. I played Rohtak. I played dungeons and dragons course. I Did star wars now. This was back in the nineties so it's a different system than it is today. It's been nothing but games almost as long as I can remember. I've got to admit I've heard your name before. Specifically your entry to the two hundred word R._P._G.. Challenge of two thousand sixteen is the space Pope Lizard. It's a fun read. How did you find yourself getting into creating R._p._G.'s okay well first of all? I think it's hilarious. You brought up space pope so I hope it's okay if I geek out a little bit on on space pope that was in fact a two hundred word R._p._G.. Challenge I made it in a night just inspiration struck. I and I thought hey the process for choosing a pope called Conclave conclave is really weird and fascinating. I could probably game this and so I I just pulled out like okay. What are the mechanical aspects suspects that the cardinals us to choose a pope and then and then after that I said okay well? What is the thing that drives them forward and the thing that really pushes them forward in the conclave process is the the doors are locked and even when they are let out of the out of the chapel? They're still like sequestered. So there's a time element. You are not going anywhere else until you have chosen a pope so I made that the mechanic in the game because I figure at some point somebody's got to go to the bathroom and if we have you locked in the room plane space eventually you're just going to say I don't care screw it. It can be the space but can be Johnny over there sure. Can I go now so that was it was not the best game of me but it certainly made me laugh and I'm glad that made you laugh too. I found myself getting into games because is so the middle school I started playing games and in high school. I started running them as a as a D._M.. When you're a D._M.? There's there's a certain creative element that that isn't that far from hacking game in fact most of the Times that I know hack a mechanic or two in their game of choice because it just to get the right flavor or or the right feeling for example. I have a friend Vic who loves stores absolutely love Star Wars and when he plays the role playing game what he does is he gives them tokens that are called Yoda's in any iota. Let you rewrote die and so it's kind of it's a lot like the D. inspiration system <hes> and it's just sort of this got this feel like oh well. I've got the four semi side little hacks like that. Make you go into game design and that's very much what made me go into it and just frankly a lot of my games are. Are Exploring things that I love and it it's sort of this natural organic expression of of the things that I love like with junkies where where it's I call it my love letter to cartoons because absolutely my love letter cartoons and and that is also a part of it so I I guess I just got a I would say got into role. Play feel free to edit this by the way I got into R._P._G.. Design largely as is a function of being a d. m. and then from there just sort of evolved into hey. What are the things around me that I can game affi- so I'm a murder mystery party affection auto so when I heard your game centered on mysteries I really got excited then when he told me about your core concept I've got to be honest? I thought it was brilliant with Hanna Barbera cartoons finding some great traction modern pop culture so what was your inspiration for the creation of the game junkies so the Game Jinchi originated with we had a home game that we'd set up here in town and we'd set it up to play monster of the week so not even related in any way we went we did two sessions and then our gay master needed to leave town bound for an emergency and she was going to be gone for three weeks and the concern was oh well. The game will fall apart if we don't do something to keep everyone together so what I what I did was I said why don't I do something with Spirit of seventy seven and we'll we'll just get a game of that going to just to kill time and when I was looking at spirits spirit of seventy seven what I what I decided was I could make this more music in fact what if I made this about the partridge family I swear the original game was as a supposed to be about the partridge family and we use the playbook from from the part or from a spirit of seventy seven but they were they were re flavored to be the characters from the show and admittedly I didn't do a lot of of prep for this it. It didn't really work in in that one. Nobody nobody's seen the partridge family and to it was still spirit of seventy seven. It was in its own game so I took the notes from from that initial game and I went and I watched the partridge show watch some episodes decided it was a terrible program should not be the basis of any game ever in the history of games ever the really just that bad and I said well okay. What other seventies media could I maybe basis on you know Scooby Doo? I think they can had a rock band and the answer is yeah. They sort of kind of did <hes> so I said what I want to do that and from there I jumped into making it because I didn't want it to be specifically Scooby Doo game but but maybe something a little broader and <hes> so I expanded into that at Hanna Barbera space where you've got Jabber jaw. You've got Josie and the pussycats inch high private investigator. If any of your listeners are into the more the more esoteric games that are out there that was my inspiration was just sort of this failed test at at the partridge family and then turning it into oh well. This actually works pretty well for cartoons involving mysteries within a game can often be a difficult task especially the puzzle element that cord entire mystery. How are you addressing this for the game yeah so that's like ten million dollar question right <hes> when I was a kid? My mother was a huge. My mother still is a huge mystery fan so I grew up on Agatha Christie Rusty and the ones with Perot Perot <hes> murder on the Orient Express that guy that was like always on the T._v.. And one of the things that I noticed in a mystery show a good mystery is that you can always solve the mystery so if you follow the formula and I always use psych as my example for this because it's really well written in this way. If you watch the show you can without getting up and touching anything collect elect every clue that you need in order to solve the mystery before the end of the show right right so it's all there it's all physically present and the problem with the role playing game is it's not visual. There's nothing to see. There's there's a guy describing a room to you or describing a city square or whatever it's all being described to you passively and you're receiving passively and you don't you don't have the ability to look under. Under the chair without saying I'm looking under the chair and that makes it turns these sorts of games into a bit of a scavenger hunt where where you're just poking and prodding at the G._M.. To find the correct codeword like okay I look behind the photograph. No I look under the rogue I look and I can be frustrating now. There are games like game systems that fixed this <hes> gumshoe. I think is probably the best mystery game system that I have played where where there's just mechanics to make sure that the players get their mystery even if even if the clue isn't like right there in front of you and obviously like you would think so <hes> pinkies is not that though Jinx's powered by the apocalypse and that is just a woefully inadequate system for telling a mystery I it's very difficult because one of the core principles of powered by the apocalypse accolades is played to find out what that means is in a typical game like like if I'm playing dungeons and dragons. There's a guy he's got his D._M.. Shield up behind it. He's got all of his notes and he knows what everybody in town. Hound is doing and he knows everything about them. He knows what they're going to do and and say and and and the crimes that they've committed the powers that they have powered by the apocalypse doesn't do that with that. The The D._M.. Has the same narrative control as every single one of the players so the way that I approach it as I said well what if what if because in Hanna barbera cartoon if you pay like really close attention you cannot solve the mystery. They don't give you enough material so I said okay well. What if we focus instead on the adventure because this this isn't really a mystery? This isn't psych this. This isn't Agatha Christie this this is this is Javer Gye. It's you know the thing that you remember from Jabber. Jaw isn't solving a mystery you remember them running around getting into trouble you remember the adventure so the closer all entirely highly generated at the table their collaborative that means that the animator has has a role in the creation of a clue. The players have roles in the creation of clues <hes> the G._M.. Notes the jam is called the animator in Hinkie's the G._M.. Notes do not ever say who did it. The Gym notes just have a bunch of macguffin stinks to pursue and also a bunch of people suspects and then I just sort of let the players decide who to pursue and they follow them based on the structure of the of the show so another thing that that really drives this sort of the sort of game is structuralism and in my case it's pretty easy to set this up because they follow the same structure and it's based around the commercial breaks so like in the <hes> right so you so you get you get you know an of five five to seven minutes span of TV and then there's a commercial and then you get another Spanish T._v.. Then there's a commercial usually they have three of those and <hes> when you watch these cartoons they follow that structure so instead of chasing after clues pursued the structure so that things will happen when you expect them to happen and then I let the table decide for themselves who who done it and why they done it and all of that and it's it's been surprisingly effective. I can count the number of bad games that have had on one hand and <hes> really <hes> those were generally because the just just people were like there wasn't buying <hes> so yeah yeah. It's a totally different. Take on a mystery. If if you're looking for for like <hes> something where there's an actual guy who'd done it you would probably be a little disappointed but if you're looking for a cartoon adventure her it found that it's a really good way to to sort of work around the the intrinsic difficulties of mystery in in a role playing game are there other game creators and writers out there that influenced you or inspired you as well and the creation into this game. Gosh I mean there's tons of people that that I look up to I think of course I am working with Stephanie Bryant and I find her work to be incredibly clever and brilliant. What I really like about her work is that she she she goes outside of the box and she goes outside of the box and sometimes in some really wonky ways recently she published a game called threadbare and threadbare is a game where toys and? It's it's baffling to me. This is powered by the apocalypse hacked like she took apocalypse. Were a game about the end of the world and it's Kinda Mad Max and she turned it into a bunch of toys that are that are playing together us. I I really liked that. I like it when people think outside the box other people that I've that I've worked with our that. I've admired obviously <hes> Vincent Baker. I think that the system that he came out with with apocalypse world is is thoroughly brilliant. <hes> I enjoy <hes> fate so Fred Hicks. He does really good work and that's that's very clever how they've got that setup. I I enjoy Dave K.. From Monkey Studios. He's the guy who wrote Bedlam Hall or Spirit Seventy seven and what I enjoy with his work is like this is a guy who took all of the the the nuance and and intricacy threw it out the window and said how can I just just step on the gas and make this this. This thing is funniest possible and damned if you didn't do a great job so I found his work to be really great too so fun question. I always feel as game creators. We often make gains that we ourselves would want to play if you could be anyone or anything in this world or genre that you've created who or what would you be. Oh Man Yeah so first of all your theory is absolutely correct. I I only make games that I would play when I make my games I make them for me. I love it when other people enjoy my stuff but I create for myself selfish Creator that way with my game. I think that there is the most potential for either the weird one weird one is the the shaggy character because they're just they're just really weird and they've got these moves that are just just kind of bonkers off the walls or surprisingly I think the looker and the looker is is the Daphne ethnic character although it doesn't need to be coded. I don't think an agenda way I've done quite a few games where they did like a like a pretty boy D. Jones kind of thing and that was great the looker if it's played right it's it's funny as all get out and they control a lot of the game a lot more than than I think people realize when they're picking books because it's not one of the more popular play books but it's because it's all about that that playbook is all about social manipulation Chan and influencing people so they can they can just turn on the charm and and get you know damn near anything they want Outta Damn near anybody they want to so yeah I would think probably the looker but then the weird want to go back and forth now. It's funny you would think you would think though that I would pick the mascot and the mascot is the Scooby Doo or the Jabber Jar or whatever but I find that they tend to be a little bit formulaic and I like my characters to be at at least a little bit more new ones not a lot more nuance not not terribly nuanced Gamer. I don't suspect but a little more than you know that that kind of that kind of thing almost every R._p._G.. Needs a mechanic for chance or risk within its structure. You've chosen to go with the powered by the apocalypse system for yours. What do you see as the core benefits for utilizing this system yeah so I did and one of the things I like about out powered by the apocalypse is the math is really simple? I know a lot of people hack powered by the apocalypse and they don't look at the percentages of dice outcomes but I did and I liked the way that it breaks out and charts very nicely but that's not why I picked it. I picked powered by the apocalypse because it's it's loose enough that you can tell a story like like it isn't it isn't super crunchy. It isn't isn't like like a AH Gertz type game where where there's such a huge emphasis on mechanical game play but at the same time it isn't it isn't a story like full-on story game like <hes> like like fate. I think is more more so or drama system. Drama system is a tremendously loose system and the the risk I see in in their systems is that they don't have enough structure to help players when they get stuck on their ideas so what I mean by that is if if I'm playing the looker and and I'm just I'm just stuck. I don't know what to do like I. I don't know where to go with this. I can look at my playbook and I have moves and. And the reason that I put the moves that I put on the playbook is to sort of outline what this character would do. It isn't necessarily prescriptive. Although I think a list of of moves does have a <music> a prescriptive element to it where where people say oh well. These are the things I'm allowed to do but more than that it's. I think it's suggestive I really liked that element of the system. I absolutely adore the play to find out element of powered by the apocalypse I have not I have not played a game where they've done it quite as well and I picked it for that that that main reason and then finally there comes a point where you just have to pick a system this game could have benefit game. I can see it being a fake game. The the math would work just as well but I I I pick powered by the apocalypse and it's gone pretty well. This brings up an interesting point games featuring powered by the Palk lips as a system usually uses playbook in place of character creation mechanically on another R._p._G.'s. Obviously you'll be using the same structure and as so can you tell us some of the themes types of characters. You'll have present. Yes so you're right. We we use instead of character creation where we say okay I'm going to be you know pick a raise and then pick class Para Bay Bush's playbook and the playbook are similar to that. If you've played dungeon world dungeon world is very very very much like that so you know they'll have like the druid and all of your choices are can't just meet for you. There are a couple of things you pick on that but not a lot <hes> I do that as well and I base them off of the the archetypes that you see in the mystery adventure venture cartoons from the seventy s so those those archetypes the archetypes that I have as the main archetypes are the leader. That's the guy who drives the van and wears they ask God the looker. That's that's pretty one and again. You could be a guy and be pretty so there's the looker. There's the smart one and this is the one who who's probably too smart to be hanging out with these people. You're not sure why why here she is with these guys and that's the one who's always sells the mystery and then you have the weird one. The weird one is is your oddball. They're the they're the wildcard just just goofball off the wallet. If if you watch <hes> always sunny in Philadelphia it's it's Charlie Charlie is the goofball breaks the group dynamic but you know in a fun way. We have the mascot the mascot is your your cartoon Sidekick Sidekick Guy and that one is that was really fun because the players get to pick they picked the playbook but then they also get to decide okay. What are you are you? Are you a dog or are you a cat. Are you a mouse and you know we. You don't need to limit it to animals speed buggy was a car so you could be you could be magical talking aeroplane. It and it's really whatever and I think that's really cool and also let the there's a couple of other flavor things. I let people pick on that book <hes> in addition to that. I also have a two extra books just because I wanted there to be more choice. One of them is the tough one and so for this I was reaching more into lake the group dynamics in a boy band yeah so like it's the backstreet boys right the the tough one is Joey in the spice girls scary spices the tough one and so I I made the playbook tough just to flesh that out I think and that side and then the last one I have the talent. This was based off of a play tests that I did several years ago where somebody took. Somebody took the the smart one and they said okay. I'm the smart one but I'm also the talent of the band. We have a rock band that I'm I'm the only one who's good and just all of the stereotypes that you get with the the aspiring artists talented person in the back rights all the songs that that's on that playbook so <hes> those are. I think they're seven so I think that's all seven of them. There are a ton of fun. Each feels very different which I'm really proud of because part of part of making a good apocalypse game is making your. Her playbook feel unique and powerful and different so I I think it's come out pretty well so you've launched your kickstarter. What can you tell us about the campaign such as the dates and other people who are working for you on the game game yeah so <hes> the kick starter <hes> the kickstarter actually went live already <hes> it went live on February fifteenth and it runs through until March nineteenth so go in and check it out right now? I'm sure you guys we have a link to the kickstarter and if your listeners don't want to do that that's fine search for Jinchi it is the only project called Yankees up there. I can't imagine why we are also. I'm also working with Stephanie Bryant. She is managing the project which is really great because she has direct experience with <hes> running kick starters and then I'll fulfilling them on time so I'm really excited about working with her and I think that she's GonNa that. She's already provided a lot of structural support that that otherwise I frankly wouldn't have known I even needed where working with Lil Chan Little Chan is is the artists that we got for for our kickstarter like just Disa- preliminary artwork and she'll be doing some. I worked for us in the future super excited for her work so just I'm going to Brag about my artist here for a second I it took us a while to find her. She is just wonderfully talented. It's very difficult when you've got when you've got a really specific civic art style it takes someone with a lot of a lot of range to bring that to life and Lil absolutely has that in spades I remember I spoke with her and I I was speaking with her in the car using hand free and Save Dave and I'm describing okay so I want this guy to look like a one thousand nine hundred seventy s cartoon so but not like not like too much shadow because that's that's something they did later and Louis like yeah so there's no job shadowing on nine hundred seventy s cartoon and we're GonNa Pastel colors and just and then she did it. She's absolutely amazing. We also have <hes> Vivian Abraham and she's going to be our editor. Vivian Abraham is a lawyer and she is also a in her spare airtime. She edits roleplaying games. I've seen her work. 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Who are the Buccaneers Alter Egos?

The PewterCast : A Tampa Bay Bucs Fan Podcast, Buccaneers

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Who are the Buccaneers Alter Egos?

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Dot Com when you use the code overtime. Hey, guys. Great. Peterson year with the baseball bedding podcast as we know the Mo.. Is Back in our lives. It's going to be a sixty games unlike anything that we've ever seen before and I'm going to be giving you picks every single day seven days a week with Major League baseball. We're also going to be keeping up with the K B O as well if you like baseball and you like being able to make some money subscribe to the baseball. Budding podcast who Pearson on Apple podcast Google play spotify stitcher tune or wherever you get your podcast that out of the way read. Yes. We've got some alter egos to talk about you've got ten I've got ten having a little bit of fun tonight for those for those of you out there who are listening to this maybe you're watching on Youtube or you're listening to the podcast. Come over and see ran in his. Like you you look like Mikey's little brother from the Christmas story movie in like you're about to go running down the street and the snow your that like like bundled up right now No, not even close. You look like you're about the you know yeah, I have a hood on. It and it is zipped up to your Chen phillies. Anyway. So you guys go check that out but wherever you guys are listening email into us at the future cast at Gmail dot com or tweet us out there on my costume. But no tweet us about your alter ego, your top ten Oh and who you guys have out there we. You know guys again it's just something fun to get into is just something fun to talk about who do you guys think is out there. So Ren, we have not shared each other's list I have no idea who you're picking. The same people in a lot of the things I'm sure we'd probably have some of the same people You know minor minor certainly some of the more marquee names across the across the. Team as I'm sure yours are I have Pinon. And trainer. And Zach. Shackelford over. Our Dan Glee and Jane All. I've done that before you don't know you don't know who the winner twins are. Now when news windows super winner was battle super friends and went to super friends. and. They go off like you know Superman Batman wonder wonderwoman go off and the story would stay at the hall of Justice. Alien people left by fraternal twins. One kid always one turn Jane she turned into any animal she wanted to. And Zan? Dude he could turn anything type of water. So you'll be like a tidal wave of bucket of water. Ice and ice. You know like you know she device in Greek was there was their pet monkey pretty much and they were terrible. Every episode like you know they'd go off and fight and they'd be all should we go? Should we not go and then they end up going to try to help in screw it up in Superman have to come in you know save them at the end and then you get the lesson you know kids. It's it's great to try to help, but you know let the adults. The. Anyway. I, don't have those three. Not Be making an appearance. So I'm I'm a little interested to see like I know the type of characters that I pulled from an and I've got people from all different categories but but I generally know the type I'm interested to see who you pull out and how obscure some of. Be I've got one or two that are a little obscure but I. I'm just. I try to to obscure Okay Fair enough. I. Didn't like I could've and that's something I would do let's face it. I would do ten things where no one listening would know who any of these characters and they're just going to be no fun for him though trust me it's spot on you'd have to give us a story for every single one of them you're like Oh God. Yeah. Here we go. Again, right. So back I met a spot where like I'm not editing shit anymore man it just Ridden rats he goes and I'm like, oh whatever man. All right. So with that ran why don't you Do you WanNa go first you go first how you want to do it this week I I want you to go I That's why I stopped to ask. But I want to like sort of each person we should try to describe like give a general idea what we picked. Okay. Now obviously giving away you know like like the good guy in. Described the described the alter ego I without naming them, and then tie to the player or say who the player is and then talk about who are right let the other person guessing okay. I guess right or wrong. Then you go into like the space man from Toy Story. That's yeah. Okay. Okay. Let's be a little harder than that. Okay. All right. Maybe. I should start to give you an idea one. Yeah. Yeah. That that sounds that sounds better. Real quick though did you. So you said you tried to get not to obscure there any like criteria or anything that you use to to make picks. Okay. All right like I said, most of our like in the Superhero Realm. Okay. Or cartoonish fake round. But I know people I Like One of my pee persons a TV show. uh-huh. So okay. So okay here's my person. To Ryan Jensen Right. Hanna-barbera Yogi bear really no. That's the first hanna-barbera character that comes to my mind. Okay Mustache. Playing Password. I don't I don't know six shooters Oh. was that the same guy. Assembly Sam was that was a handlebar Barra I thought that was lunes. Looney. Tunes. As hanna-barbera. Okay, it is trust me chokes. You you're even you weren't even at Your Dad's ball sack when I was watching anamour barracks, looney tunes like it was the show dress. As I say, give me the side I like you don't believe me Yes looney tunes, handlebar foreshore book it book it. Are you. Are You googling? Okay let's everyone wait for Brenton's mistrust because it's not. What is it? It's Warner Brothers Oh my God. But but but to your defense, there are a series of hanna-barbera looney tunes crossovers. Okay. Maybe that's what. Yeah. But regardless go ahead. Yeah it's true. All right. Now The the number of times I let you go off on stuff and I'm like okay. Go ahead. Are you trying to say I'm wrong a lot I know go ahead read. So who do you got seventy? Ryan Jensen Yosemite Sam, that's good. I like that it's pretty obvious. To why he's you know redhead. Goes off. The drop of a hat mean wants to fight everybody simple. I like it I like it. I also had a Ryan Jensen. So since we're not ranking these, we'll just you know we're in that vein talk about. All Right? Yeah. So I I've got Ryan Jensen. I hear the words I'm GonNa give you. Orange. Khakis mascot no tax no cats yeah cats? Robots. Sh. I everything should be with. You should be Pixar Disney, I. But this is not not Pixar Disney Harry Potter or Star Trek. Oh. Wow. Well, then I don't know whether we're their cats were there orange cats in Hamilton. No Okay Robot all. Right yeah. You you. You would know this ren you remember Voltron. Oh Yeah. Yeah. The orange, the orange driver for Voltron his name was hunk and Ryan Jensen is Hong Kong to me okay yeah okay I just think he wanted to say hunk now no but. hunk was the guy he he loved us food. Right now. He he was. He was real jovial. Here's real. Happy. But he also could could have a little bit of an edge to him and he was part of a bad ass team of of five people. So there you go was I don't think there was an orange thunder cat or voltron cat. He his color he was the yellow see his cat was yellow but like his uniform. Makes Perfect Sense Yeah? All right. So I go to a to a fan favourite or a fan loathsome or one of my personal favorite oh go fan loathsome. Donovan. Smith Oh. You put him on the list Oh yeah. Let's see here he is voldemort. No, he's not that. Good. Baltimore was actually good at what he did. Bear Oh actually Hanna Barbera okay. Barra. Does is rare Mutley know Hated even worse. A great cartoon Siri. Oh, I can't I have no idea who you're talking about but go ahead who are you talking about? They, took two of the main people off. And then brought this nephew onto the show and was just an annoying piece of crap that everybody hated. Was It scrappy do? Yes. Really. Yeah but you loved everybody else. I Love Scooby Doo right. And then like you love everyone around him like the bucks you love everybody around him yet. But then you look out left tackle and they're scrappy and you're just like son of a bitch what are you doing? Everything. kind of like the cousin Oliver of Scooby Doo is that Brady Bunch Yeah Yeah. I thought it'd be honest. I couldn't stand brady bunch I watched it because know everyone talked about it. You had three channels growing up I didn't I did. And I didn't have to walk to school I never my bike. Both ways. On flat ground. But it was bumpy. Brick. So you know. But. Yeah. So that's that. That's my. That's my scrappy do just. The person you love to hate well, I'm GONNA stick on the offensive line then okay. Since you did and I'm going over to Alex. Kappa. All right and for this one, I will go to Disney Pixar character. Okay. we're talking a young guy who hung around. and. Human or not human. Yeah. Okay. Human who hung around how to how a longer hairstyle sort of similar to to campus, and mostly he was really really young in and tried to keep up with the big boys and sometimes did okay and sometimes didn't know maybe now. Was Disney by the way not not Pixar. Disney Pixar Disney Pixar Pixar specifically I thought you. Were Barra. I duNNo. Incredible Way from the incredible the the little sidekick guy who kept trying to like team up with incredible nitro isn't it or? What was your grown up name? Yeah forget Tro Nitro some Africa. Yeah. Incredibly Yeah Greta boy mostly mostly just because of the age and the you know they're both blonde That one. Turns, into Evil Yeah. Well, it was lure all our good players to his secret island syndrome he became in your own. Go. Yeah. Is that Hanna Barbera yes? Yes. Damn it. All right. I'm going to my favorite player on the offensive line. On the team, my all around favorite player. In what they're interested in. How they could talk on any subject very thoughtful. If you've listened to pop before of course, I'm talking about Mike. Edward, can sue all right I can. And this is a marvel character though. So you gotTa Think Cultured and fiercer scarier ferocious. Are we talking MC YOU MARVEL OR NON MC? Moral I'll give you an you black panther no no. Cultured serious very smart but also. Don't say Ironman Ironman no. No. Okay. The other smart guy the other. Bruce Banner, right but I did the last one where he was half banner half hoke so. Smart Hulk like some I call them half hulk. Yes. SMART. Because my. Gotcha Gotcha I also had sue okay on my list. This is another Disney one professor Exhibitor No. This was. This was. This. Was a guy who was very large and very brooding and sometimes quiet but also really Kinda seem to have a soft side to him. But was able you know he was there too. He was a big scary guy to get the job done piggy-bank now now he was in the movie he. I I. Got I got. It's a I can't remember their name I don't know. It's it's it's monsters INC now no. Now you're talking sully who you're thinking. Selley. Now, this is a deeper cut in that. Wow from from and you're worried about me going. And you started with like. With, like the fourth voltron character knowing remember. Honk was awesome. He was my favorite is love I'm not saying it wasn't like Voltron has been on TV for like twenty Voltron is what are you talking about rents on? TV Right now Netflix's anyway Oh brand new series being made by dreamworks right now. Oh, they redid it. Yeah, and it's great. It is fan tastic. Sure is it dreamworks or is it my Migra? Santa Barbara. Okay, you're saying you're giving my last name. Leila instead, she's in the movie low and Stitch Never Watch it Cobra bubbles is this guy's name you never to watch it? So you're not GonNa Know Cobra bubbles not where does he wear a suit? Yeah. Black suit. Yeah. Yeah and he's got glasses got a gold airing. Yep exactly and he's the he's the child protective services guy who's coming to take away low from her family and like he's watching Don McKenzie because he's that that personality. So different. Stealing Children No. I have them protecting children, and at the end he makes he makes a good call. Yes. Cobra bubbles. Watch you haven't watched the movie you can't judge. Them Cobra was a good dude over was A. Really sweet family and just trying to make it trying to protect children from bad situations what he's doing, which was what? You should watch the movie and find out. Okay. What was bad situation? No parents. Yeah. Actually appearance. No parents and can can the supervising person actually care for the Child? Was Her sister. was she had her hands full? She just had her hands was she Right this one you'll never get oh, you might actually might get it. But no one else will get I. Don't it's just it's just it's not a person. It's a TV show the man from Davis. Oh man from uncle. Don't get the connection no greatly unappreciated TV series Benson. Here's your other clue which has nothing to do with with Carlton Day was canceled way too soon firefly. Isn't really. That firefly. So under appreciated I, mean if you're a SCI FI. Sci Fi, you've seen firefly new love firefighting firefly on facts. I've never seen firefly really never seen it. Get, go own it I the thing I, own it on digital downstairs I. It's like thirteen episodes because canceled way too early. Right I have I just have not actually watched. Fox airmen order really the air them out of order. Wow. Yeah. That's one of the things people like really you're but you're right. It is for the people who know about it they absolutely love firefly know how great it yeah yeah. Carlton. Davis. would be paying attention. No Carlton Davison is play That's when I started calling him firefly. All right. Well, I had a Carlton Davis but for me it was it was Carlton Davis. Andrew Mel Deane all all together as a group DND with SNB There you go. Welcome. All right. You're ready. Sure. I don't know if you're going to get the three people. Yeah it's three people. That are being represented by another group of three people. From Hamilton. Once. The trio. And A. Bunch of goof-balls who actually get the job done. For anyone who knows a soundtrack you get that reference to I. Don't know they're they're they're Lafayette John Laurens and Hercules Mulligan. Hamilton's three friends in the war like, yes. I remember that a couple of songs together they did they had several songs together. Yeah. Like the First Act. He's he's so. I. Don't understand another fun fact the which people wouldn't hate the French finished with Lafayette did for people wouldn't eat the French if they understood what the French as a whole did for us to fun fact, I went to Lafayette High School named after the market I think every city I've ever lived in like our ever been and has a Lafayette street soccer. And get it's named after. The Marquis de Lafayette who this is one of those guys. If you ever go look up his name, he has like fifteen names go. Yeah. Like like I. Think like yes. Yes. Like how no think like Vita like full name yeah. Lay. It gives you if you don't know via vase full name Google, it look up like it just runs on and on and on and on and on and on. They just call me Beata. Or Vita or? Vita Beata Jamin. Feed. Via the bedroom as some of the Media and the sound like the column lead vdb He'd be. Yeah that's good. One take really like really. You're top twenty market. Why don't you know his name whatever? I can it's my turn All right. I'm going to go to a light hearted one I won't go on with. GRONK. A. Hanna Barbera. It is it is I don't trust you anymore I know this one is it is I noticed Hanna. Barbera lunatics I really do I thought looney tunes is underhanded are barbera umbrella Gotcha idea hanna-barbera has as a rather large umbrella they. I'll give you that so So but I definitely know there seem tune than hanna-barbera So it is Hannah whoever? and. It's the only click and really give you A. Curly. From three stooges an animal curly from three stooges and it's an animal. It's an animal that acts like curly actually curly from three stooges. Popular Show Jabber Jaw. Okay. Yeah he's. He's he's never serious, but he's like the biggest guy in the room and he's you know he's like the tag until the show and but like you know he's just kind of happy to be there you. Know what I mean not saying that like Gronk doesn't prep but yeah, it does take anything serious. He hasn't really prep for anything he just kind of go along with the flow and and gets SORTA forrest gump at the end and everything turns out. All right. But it's more of like gronk laugh like I got a touchdown. I got a question. Did you see the video that they put out of Tom Brady and reading mean tweets? Was Terrible. Because first of all, they weren't mean tweets. All right. Let's face. They were real softball like come on guys. If you're going to give them mean tweets give them mean tweets but the way Gronk was those tweets Oh my God it's like you couldn't read was that real or was that like because I know he's well aware of this this persona that he puts out and he feeds into it right and I don't like I. Really WanNa know like does he really just read that poorly yeah or His finger running Mike along with right right. For those who didn't see it? He's like Gronk is a they're very very. Bad Boy. WHOA Yeah I. Just I. I don't I don't know. If he if he really does read that poorly in Gosh, I really hope he doesn't have a learning disability or something. Because I'm not trying to make fun of that. I think I get the impression that's him feeding into this persona that he has sure of Gronk are might turn. I'M GONNA. Go back to the offensive line. This is the last offensive line when. Jesus had three. There's five guys I had three. All right and I left off there's twenty. There's fifty three guys. Okay fine. But I was an offensive lineman tend to be biased towards those guys worse talking about Tristan worse the rookie I, got worse to filing. There you go. I got worse the rookie I will tell you this is an emcee character. Okay. All right. Big Guy who jumps a lot. You jumps of that pool and he's rather big strong guy big guy who jumps a lot I feel okay. She just know that you should yeah the hulk. The Hulk. All you do is say smash but he had to make it up to for input. Fine. Yeah Yeah pretty clear. ALC-. Yeah. That was that was that was and it was real tempting do sue like or you know something like that. But I wou I took sword his his very boil boyish in almost childlike nature. You know where it's very naive. Tae People like to say nowadays for some reason. And you know that story I told you about. When he was on with the salty dogs and they're asking the question like you know about the tea kettle and everything yeah. What's coolest thing ever bought near you know and? He doesn't even realize that they're looking for like because he never says I haven't bought a car or House yet. He's like Oh, it's this dish dispenser. He doesn't. It's totally over his head about source going on. So someone who's that strong and sort of that like I said, I, said boyish and naive I'll tell you flintstones Barney Barney rubble strong. Bam Bam you go. Hey Fun facts, flintstones also hanna-barbera. I'm aware. All right Let's see here I feel like I'm we all right I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA be over to the defensive side of the ball JP. Did you have JP on your own. All right you how JP has. Got Got his hand blown up and he came back and then he broke his neck and then he came back know not Cyborg Guy. Now this is Mc you not not whatever but he keeps healing he keeps healing and coming back and he's super ferocious. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. That works. I like it. Yeah. All right. So moving on we'll, get devon white out of the way. Of. Course you know a big thing. For DEB. Besides all his after I sits out. The most is is speed but I didn't WANNA come flashes too easy but there is another superhero show out there even canceled that I guess we would say. Someone who looks like him? They'll looks like devon or looks like the Flash Oh. It looks like Devon I. is that the Netflix show black lightning blabbing area? Yeah. That's what I pick for Devon. I also had devon white mine had to do with the speed although it's in that idea and just the fact that Devon white just seems to pop up wherever the action is. Just Bam Bam Bam Bam. Bam POPs up wherever the action is another superhero from the EMC from the nod nc you actually but a marvel marvel character a marvel. Just pops up. He just appears he's there he's everywhere night. Good night, that's their night crawler. A-. Okay. Okay. Do you watch for Bobo wish you were more informed sports better then listened to my new podcast picks football addition where I use transaction statistics what made you more knowledgeable about football and more importantly about bedding football I'll teach you about what satistics are most important when betting football and all the different types of bet you can make bedding football. You can bet this bread, the total, the moneyline props, parleys, teasers, and Robbins. We'll talk about the Thursday night game and then we'll go right into the big slate on Sunday new episodes every Friday morning. Hey, guys this. Is Great Peterson host of the podcast hooper with hoops despite the fact that college basketball is in the season, it's never too early to get a jump start on taking a look at these teams because there is now three, hundred, fifty, seven of them for the upcoming two, thousand, twenty, two, thousand, twenty, one, college basketball season I'm gonNA give you guys a deep dive on every one of them keep up with all the answers in college basketball and so much more. You're able to describe to hoops on apple podcast Google, play spotify stitcher tune in or wherever you get your podcasts. I haven't Tonio Brown. Hey real quick. Sure I just to say we are now in are not top just last three. Thank. You Tony Brown I haven't Tonio Brown does crazy. I I was tempted to Tony Brown I. Didn't do just crazy guy easy. Loves chaos has no empathy really screwed up in the head. Loki. Terrible hair, logie. No, there's a thrives on chaos. Marvel it's DC. Biggest villain joker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's that crazy bastard Yup Yup I get that I get that I had I didn't have any bad guys on here Let's go over to this swine. ooh Mike Evans okay, I had Mike Evans. Now you know Mike Evans is a big fan of the Harry Potter deal. So in that honor, I kept this in the Harry Potter Realm. I had I had to go in for the guy that I thought was quite frankly the biggest bad ass in the Harry Potter series. Harry. Potter so bitter ninety, I do I do and this guy was. Like he you know we often talk about like my Kevin's like he quietly got a hundred yards this game. Yeah. Now the last two games obviously, he hasn't but. The number of times we've he's just sort of quietly been there and it's like, wow, that's the. One thousand yards already really how that happened. But he was just the guy who was all over the place and he he was awesome You're not going to get this when win. That's Okay Kingsley shackled. You're right. I was thinking maybe you're GonNa do Neville No. No. It doesn't work at all for. Neville for the people. Okay. Duncan offended Brennan Guess. Here's a character I. Don't it works or not. Hanna-barbera no please explain to everyone who the hell. Kingsley shackle bolt was a character who. Was He worked for the ministry and was a he was a part of what they call the order Phoenix, which was like the resistance against the bad movement that was coming up. With Order Phoenix's yeah. It was the resistance Yeah. Like I said that resistance and I they were Kingsley was the guy who like nobody knew he was in the resistance unless you were in that resistance like he was. So he could he could be the mole. He could be the double agent wild when they went to arrest Dumbledore. Yes, and then he left like you know and fox-lew between his hands and he just period and he knows he's like like. He's got to admit Dumbledore got style yes. Oh, and fun fact after after the whole series wrapped up Kingsley actually became the next minister for magic ascended to the to the highest job. So. Anyway that's kings Oh, he survived he's spoiler alert. Yes. The final book has been out for over thirteen years. Sorry. Yes he's arrives and he becomes the the next president of magic people. Keep. Kingsley Kingsley was bad, ass he really was. He was awesome. Awesome Coming down, no Kingsley's awesome okay. Vaunted David, I have lante. David. Let's do it. I got him as a mentor. ooh, right yeah, I get that. Okay. Dan for. Action figure line that was also a cartoon made at arms. Why are you serious? It was not by the way for the record man at arms was you're talking about the he man series was Barbara. It was film. Asian, okay. Do you do. That is nobody who is under the age of like forty is going to understand who man at arms is. Help them out team man and I'm almost fifty right that's what I mean anyone who's under the age of forty. Oh. Yeah. Not over under. Maybe not. Yeah, yeah. Thirty, eight there on the you're under forty. No, I am forty. You turn forty. Yeah. Yeah. I know right. Welcome to the club good Lord I know I'm old your is going yet. Yeah. Yeah. Mine like the day I. Swear to God just like they say it's like day turn yeah. I had I had about fifteen years ago had laser guys surgery and they told me then like when you hit about forty like Lasix, not GonNa fix what happens when you get older it's just going to correct vision now like what happens when you get older is different so you get forty that's still going to happen. Yeah right about this year my eyes have been like, oh my Gosh My last one who was man at arms. whose main in arms he was just it was a dumb name for a guy who was he was he man if you don't know he man is, but you know probably do he is the prince of what attorney a- attorneys. Yeah. Prince of attorney are Prince Adam when he holds the sort of power and hold it over his head and says, I have the power returns in the he man, which is basically strongest man in the universe. And sort of his Little Good Guy Team mentor the Guy Tried ca car heat one st straight narrow and learning the right lessons when he was Prince Adam was man at arms, which was basically being like the general of the Army of Attorney Yup and he was also only one of three people in the in on the secret of. WHO Who Human actually was Yes. Yeah. By the way human. Never. Tell. Putting him in a pink shirt and lavender stockings better disguise and putting superman glasses like yeah. It was very scarlet pimpernel. Again. You don't know that reference anyway, I'll let that go. Back, in around two thousand he-man got an update cartoon network did a did a reboot of the series which was really really good. Netflix's right now has there in production on a new rebirth of man with Mark Hamill as one of the voices okay Luke Skywalker he's also done joker knows. You're like just Gimme a blank face. All right anyway. Well, I mean I don't get excited about like Oh Mark Hamill voicing this cartoon. Let me go check it out. There's Have you have. You heard what? Mark. Hamill does like like some of the voices and stuff he does is a voice actor. Apparently not apparently not he's fantastic I. Know I know he's great as a joker I get I know yes. Okay. Guys relations. You would know who he was wasn't looks no, you would. Hope. All right. I should say Levante okay. Labontes best friend in the whole world your favorite buccaneer and the history of the world Gerald McCoy always fancied himself a little Batman you rich guy that doesn't actually have any powers. He's just really rich and like bakes all these fancy gadgets well, except Levante is better and he stuck around and he was actually in the the the. The Guy I gave him was the emcee you and it's kind of the the the the what do you call it like the the veteran, the senior guy the guy in the group, the Patriarch. Of The buccaneers defense right now as the patriarch of the avengers the guy who really got it all started and moving, right? Loki? No. False was who is the bad guy man Jeff I didn't say bad guy I know you're talking about iron man I'm talking about iron man yes yes. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah Yeah. Less less rich guy with with suit and it doesn't actually have any powers because actually I think onto David might actually have some real life superpowers. Versus his best friend who didn't but. But I yeah, it's Statesmanlike senior statesman in this too much. Do I know? You know fun fact about human. No Yes it is doing you're getting into this. It's good. Good. Good. Good. Yeah. No I like it like you were saying instead of. Not, about the suit and the wise crack and it's more about what he's symbolizes and when I to to the buccaneers and defense and organization if the buccaneers organization was the avengers Luanne Dave is going to be there you go got to be there you go or we'll Golsen there you go all right ran number one everyone got Chris Godwin I thought you buy them and I have him what I picked was there's a lot to pick from here look at it. There's GonNa be a lot to pick from here I'm be interested sort of. The psychic is actually better at their job than the person's Robin. Does so. He was the first sidekick who came to mind. GimMe Gimme a general area of where we're talking here. Real life person as a matter I just Wanna I just want to hear your ideas. Yeah. A R-. A real life person whose sidekick is better than the actual person. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to stay away from anything political definitely late night talk show Andy Richter Nice is it really on Conan O'Brien? Right? Funnier in CONAN funny. Is. Really. Funny. All right. All right. So what you're saying we're Chris Godwin as a sidekick is actually better than the number one guy being being Evans, really good. He was really good. Yeah. Yeah but really the other guys better yeah I you know we had that conversation on the last show and and I I can't disagree with you on that as much as it feels icky to say. Right right right because I mean no disrespect to the other guy just sucked it. Yeah. He really is and out how he's going to be out for another week or two. God for the joker. All right andy, Richter pogue and the joker I think I'd rather have the job. On those terms. All right. Well, my last guy here and I'm I'm a little surprised you didn't have them. To you gotTa, you gotTa talk about the If you have you have ironman on on the team to you gotta you gotTa talk about the Guy who's leading the team, the guy who's out there command in charge and and you know at this guy, let's face it. He's real pretty dumb talking about Tom Brady right now he's real pretty and he's got America's asked I guess I don't know. What that means? have. You have you not seen of injures in game of course I, surely have then you should one hundred percent catch the reference. I'm talking about the. Yes. Okay. I don't. Wow. All right anyway. Let's the captain of the offense. WHO's leading the entire team? Yeah I got I mean I. I understand what you're saying I. Just don't understand the reference to the movie like I don't remember that that little. There is okay American I'm talking about Captain America absolutely yet. There's a point when Captain America Futures Fighting Captain America in the past any knocks him down and he looks and he's one captain America's face down he looks down and goes that is America's ass and like walk away a little laugh laughing Haha moment, right? Yeah. Okay. I don't remember that part I remember the meeting. Him being like kind of like even even himself even yourself himself like come on man like, right Like. seriously. This goody. Two shoes now right? You'd be so me like. Right can you just be cooler like like I am now? Tony was right I am a Dick. Anyway. All right. That's it. That's our. That's our ten guys with alter egos on the buccaneers. That's it. Yeah. I don't know what else to say. A lot of fun. A lot of fun. Rin. May. Have there are some deep cuts there. There are some obvious cuts in the middle of all that as well. So I'll turn this back out to anybody out there listen if you guys have made it this far in the podcast and haven't turned us off yet. Congratulations you deserve it. You you deserve your own alter ego quite frankly. So Hey, listen right in and let us know just be curious to know first of all who's listening to this far too like who would you pick? Who would you pick in? What Alter Egos would you give? Them could be a superhero could be a cartoon character could be. A real life person figure of history whatever it is who do you guys got next door neighbor right just be prepared to explain it if it's not overarching. With that ran. Folks where they can contact you if they want to let you know who they're picking as an alter ego out there. Yeah. Who would you pick for rented I? Who are our egos there you go. Oh Man. Yet don't contact me list best place at Ren. Dak.. UNDERSCORE TA I don't WanNa hear how are you doing everybody flood Rennes Dm's it's Ari and underscore DAX. Flood Flautam with your list. Finals on twitter at random checks I just said that always down downtown Buckner ship keeping Nice Short but oh A Little F y the collide room is up and running bucks giants. So if you WANNA. Go on there and we had like, really it was It was it could have gone. It didn't it went as well as possibly could even hoped for last time and everyone in there like thanked me for it and they had a lot of fun. So again, you can just go in there and once you join you're in like you can just forget about until Monday night ren I is this one of those things like they'll be a new room like for each game or like is there like one room that's created for buccaneers fans and everybody gets to stay in it how does that work? Do you know? One Room going to be created for each game. Gotcha okay yeah each game because I remember like when we did the what was the last game that we play raiders? Raiders. Yeah we did the raiders like by the end of the game. It was like it was like fifty four you know. And then we talked about it on the Colin show and then I went back to it like Tuesday. The room is still up and there's like sixty nine people in there while I was like Oh. Okay. Can We? Over. Just renamed that old room and keep it going and I have sort of a fun thing here. collide has told me that if you dress up in your bucks here, and if you look at the APP, you see you know that little sort of like short movie clip at the room whereas people watching the TV and then like something happened on TV and they may you know group of five or six people if you do that you're bucks gearing and you send it to me, I can I if I like it, I can forward it onto collide and they might make it sort of like the header for the room. That's cool. Yeah. So you can tell them the header for. The room that's coal the so it's Bucking Raiders Raiders of buccaneers the Peter Cast, and like I said, just you know if you had APP download already, thank you very much. It's going there joined the room and then you don't worry about it until Monday night because they ca- the what you're always in the room until the room no longer exists. They never kicks you out at the end you get to go right to it when when you come back in so like it saves a for, you don't have to go searching for it every time you open the APP by the way it's giants vs buccaneers this week not raiders. Yes. So find the giants would not the raiders yeah so Yeah it has. You know has our name. Peter. Casts on us go ahead and jump in there and Yeah. You can already start talking giant's revenge. Sweet baby there you go I like it. If you WANNA get in touch with me, you find me at Brent, the live cross, all the social media's, and the show is at the future cast on twitter facebook and instagram email us to Peter cast at. Dot. Com please anything you send us we could use on a future episode of the cast picturing join guys we're coming back later this week I know this was just a fun episode but we are definitely Still covering the bucks and we are back Friday night going live to talk about all the news and breakdown everything that has happened this week in one buccaneer place, the advent health training center. We'll talk about all that stuff surrounding the team. Then we'll also take a look at the upcoming game on Monday night and don't forget after the game on Monday night the original post game call in show we'll be back live or now be here with you taking your phone calls letting you join the video chat as we discussed the game as soon as the clock hits triple zero or you know a few minutes thereafter. Read that's going to do it for us for tonight buddy. It is good show. Lots of fun as we talk through these alter egos until next time guys that's going to do it for us for tonight. Go Bucks.

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HBO Max: we checked it out

Talking Tech

04:32 min | 6 months ago

HBO Max: we checked it out

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12 - Kara Vallow

Hollywood Unscripted

37:17 min | 10 months ago

12 - Kara Vallow

"From Kurt Co Media Welcome to Hollywood scripted. I'm Scott Tall with Malibu Film Society and today we're actually going to be talking about television. Joining us is the multi not award winning producer. Care Avello who currently runs. Three of Fox television's for Sunday night. Animation domination shows family. The Guy American Dad and the Cleveland show. She's also the producer of the next season of Cosmos. Possible Worlds. Welcome I WANNA I wanNA start with Cosmos because this is something that you're getting ready to launch the next iteration it's GonNa be called Cosmos possible words. Talk to us about well. Cosmos was originally supposed to be a one off was supposed to be a one-season high special miniseries and remaking the original. Yeah project that Seth Macfarlane really wanted to do and he contacted Andrian. WHO's Carl Sagan's widow? Who owns the property and convinced talks to do this series? It ended up being a lot more successful than anyone had anticipated. It was going to be so they decided they. You WanNa do a second season which we never thought it was going to happen and especially finished it last year the middle of last year and finally have an air date for at I. Don't actually they have top head but sometime this spring much march okay. Yeah so we're yeah. We're excited that's finally GonNa be seen title certainly suggests a interesting and you get to visualize that. Yes yes I mean. Did you watch the first season of Cosmos Watch original series. I'm that old was forced to watch that as a child. My parents with you know vent television in our house so when I was approached about contributing animation into the remake of Cosmos. I was extremely hesitant about doing. In fact my initial reaction was that I was very busy and I had just come off developing show. That didn't didn't end up going. I was exhausted before I had spoken to anyone. Abou- what they were planning on doing with it but it held such a reverent place in my memory that I fell. I couldn't do it justice and I hadn't really spoken to anyone only spoken to seth and he sort of talked about it and he's like well we want to. You know how they'd had in the Carl Sagan version they had live actors portraying historical figures and it looks a little bit wonky. You know like current day where people are their expectations are huge period. Red Productions like Downton Abbey and. They didn't have that kind of budget so they work on US animation instead house like oh I don't know I don't know if I could do justice and it seemed sort of daunting to me just because of the difference in animation style or I hadn't even gotten that far in a process. It was the idea of animating cosmos to you replace a huge element of the original show. So my first reaction was I want to do it. I can't do it. I'm driving home from work. And one of the producers on on the show called me and said Oh so we want you to come meet and in the cosmos people. Thanks for coming on board and I was like Oh that must have been some mistake. I'm too busy and I can't. And he said Kgo. Seth said that you could do it. And that this other project was done and so I went and met with and we talked a couple of hours and it was one those situations where she sort of charmed me in to doing it and I understood what she was imagining and it wasn't a sort of replacing this live action narrative element with animation. She wanted something different. And we talked about like Cosmos mental us and then it was like well actually animations probably only thing you could use to to achieve. What what she wanted to achieve with it so it's difficult difficult show to work on? It was hard to just come up with an idea. A stylistic idea the some approach to it because I wasn't really given any specific direction because it was something that was completely new was different. Come producing our property like family guy. I said they wanted something that looked sophisticated. Didn't look like Corny or children's animation. But they didn't really know what that was so there was a long period of development of trying to come up with I a way to produce it and there wasn't a lot of money for this production and it was a huge undertaking. There are a lot of different moving parts fish oil effects in live action and then there was my part which was somehow conveying the narrative story in each script as well as the parts of the script that had to describe sometimes complicated scientific theories and experiments and such but individual way at audience could understand them so I felt the huge amount of responsibility. Not Not just for it to look great and not well cokie. But to make everything understandable for viewers to parse down sometimes very complicated needed sort of convoluted ideas into little pieces that could visually explain something and people would be able to understand was given more challenges that you had the first time around around or you still daunted by. What's coming up this time? Yeah I mean going into the second season definitely we establish the style L.. which was a huge part of launching the first season so he had that how we created the backgrounds and how we created the animation had already been established but unlike unlike episodic television show family guy each script for cosmos involved the different time periods different characters? So it's a lot more work macos into having to do that. Between ten minutes and thirty minutes of animation per episode varied with each one and we couldn't reuse any elements from the previous previous episode. Everything had to be drawn new and there were a lot of things we learned from the first season that we didn't repeat and second season which made it a lot easier but the scripts were really brilliant and they are complicated. And they were dense a large part of it is sort of parsing through all this information and trying to you make it clear storytelling and compelling and taking everything that works in the script and making it visual and making an interesting the people but still making it really clear. I can't imagine anything that would be so diametrically opposed to what you have historically been doing with the animation domination nights on Fox. Yeah it is and I think that's why I ended up really enjoying it because now it's a blessing Hashtag that family guy a and American data have been on the air for so long but you know becomes a bit of a grind eighteen seasons in and you know what I love about animation as you can do anything with it. But the rules rules like exploiting a medium mark pretty narrow in network episodic show like family guy. We do a lot when we can with. I don't know how familiar to show. Occasionally we'll do the things that sort of go outside the traditional guide what that show is and do something with like stop motion or different elements of style. But it's basically what it is. We're a whole musical show musical show. Yeah but cosmos was something completely different. It's a science show and even though free quarters of what my job was is to who provide the narrative storytelling part. Another part of it was to anime. The the sort of what we call like mini dachshunds explanatory half minute vignettes of experiments and scientific things so I worked with a small team and they had to be people that were really interested in doing a shit ton of research and there are people that work animation directors and designers but also who were really smart and wanted to do a lot of research because that was a huge part of it because it had to be exact. When you're animating a television episode of American Dad we were from a script and radio? Play of the voices and the artist take that and really work specifically from exactly what they're given more or less but with cosmos it was a lot more inventing and a lot more thinking had to go into it and a lot of figuring out and it's not body. It's a difficult show. It's not exactly like you're a stranger to things that are not easy. I mean Fox came to you and seth and the next thing you know you're building a brand new independent independent within Fox studio with over two hundred employees. I mean that's insane. Yeah it was interesting how it came about I had produced the third season of family family guy and it was a thirteen episode season and then it was cancelled and I went on to do other things we did some things together and during the time of the cancellation Fox said decided to put out the episodes on DVD. And then I kind of knew just from like the Zeitgeist there were fans of the show and when the DVD's eighties came out they would have these little DVD events. Boris around colleges. And I'd go to a lot of them with Jeff and like lines around the block of these young young guys wanting to just get DVD's and see. Seth do voices. There's a little odd Costa. I've been off the air for a couple of years and it's a lot so that was one of the reasons they investigated bringing it back. Not The only reason but seth was developing another show unaware that family guy was ever going to return with American Dad and so I was introducing a presentation for that show over at Fox to try to sell it. They had like a couple of presentations. They were choose from and they made the decision to renew new family guy and then also pick up. American dad was a little surprising and of course we needed to get up and running like right away. The normal order for shows twenty two episodes. That's like a big order. Don't do those anymore. But that was the typical order for animated show then but they decided they wanted to thirty five episodes for the first season. And then I I just thought that was fantastic and ended up not really being fantastic being sort of not a great idea. In retrospect but no sleep. Now it's not that it was too much and they also wanted us to do this. Family guy movie site sort of forgotten about in that same time period and it was just I think for south in particular who does the majority of the voices and and the time did the majority of work on the scripts and looked at every story board panel and every design it was just that many episodes too many so the idea was to get the shows running somehow and for me it would turn out to be really a great opportunity produced a lot of shows. You know we had Fox behind us at at this point like back before the show got cancelled. They weren't really behind us so much trying to get anything was a bit of a struggle but when it came back it was a whole different sort of situation and they allowed me to have a lot of autonomy partially because I think the nature of a studio like that I think if they had their druthers they wouldn't do animation because because for some reason they never really wanted to understand how it works to wrap their minds around it. So it's something they never have a lot of control over and if you come from a background working working live action I've become extremely frustrating to then be in charge of animated shows. Because it's not a situation where you can have any control you can read a script and give your or notes but you can't dry your control is pretty marginalized and I think it's very frustrating for people at the studio yeah. I think it's frustrating for executives anywhere are with animation but you know it was advantageous for someone like me because you can take advantage of those situations and we had a lot of support from Fox but they weren't really running. Show me. I had to report to people but they put a great amount of trust in myself and in suggests sort of do it and for me. It was a matter of building a mechanism to produce the shows. The Way Seth wanted in every models very different and this loosely based on the simpsons model of how they produce their shows but with some Significant differences and that started out as animator so he wanted the writers and the animation staff. Privacy what everyone under one roof. What's is not done on the Simpsons Simpson's but he wanted everyone to sort of work communal atmosphere and staffing up shows like that? That was probably the hardest part for me is there are there was a king of the hill and the simpsons are certain shows and Futurama like that are based on that live action animated model. They're not like wacky cartoons so there's certain kinds of artists that sort of understood that kind of story boarding and directing and very different from artists. Who would work on bugs? Bunny or power puff girls or something. So there are limited number number of board artisan directors at sort of fit that mold and so. There's a lot of pillaging and lost a lot of friends trying to staff. Those show was astros. People didn't get it didn't Matter of stealing from other shows yeah Because they were finite number of artists who worked in that style. And it's really important because is there are wonderful. Artists that work on cartoon network or Nickelodeon but they come in and try to a story board and the character so bouncing around and if you look at a a story board for our family guy for the simpsons it looks very boring. The characters aren't moving all over the place and it's really modeled after how the actors so those lines it's adult humor. That's based on a radio play and it's not really exploiting the medium of animation. The Children's animation. I mean you're serving a whole different audience. Yeah and it's just a different way of producing show and it can go horribly wrong if you don't understand that when you're setting up a system for showing that and I know that for a long time we're very close close and I knew what he wanted and was important to not fuck that up and to build a mechanism for those shows that would give him the shows that he want. Hi It's L.. Churning them out for a network that wanted them jared out. He's obviously putting a lot of trust in you. That has developed between the two of US centuries together I guess Hanna Barbera Mhm on top of everything else. It's a male dominated industry Talked to about those challenges. Yeah well so I guess that's sort of multifaceted. The entertainment industry is male dominated and the television comedy. World is male dominated again. S- little bit better now. But they were male centric writing staffs and MEL executives for the most part and I write a book on the sort of nuanced subtle continuous efforts to tomorrow. similize me and my so called power. I was doing a job. You know ETA very high level still are it's a high level but it's still part of production off our productions were not executives and I think there's a level of sort of misunderstanding outstanding sometimes of my role I guess. And how it differs from other producers line producers on shows and I had a lot of difficulty and and seth had a lot of respect and did put a lot of trust in me and that was the only reason why they even allowed me to do I did for the first couple of. You're the first five or succeed then. It just stopped. I'd have to go to Fox and meet with the business people on the executives the justify my production plan for the season which was that schedule and by Jetton except always came with it was always a situation of sort of being berated by some dude about why the average job Bob never done in my job. Now why episodes couldn't be delivered a year or you know just no comprehension Simpson's mm since had been running for like thirty years says wasn't like wasn't new science but it was always a matter of Miley not being taken exactly seriously and having to defer saft who would say yes. She knows what she's talking about. This is how long it takes whatever and that just continued. There was a point at which they just sort of back off everything and it was fine and they didn't give us notes oats and they stopped questioning this cadre which was the same every fucking year. There wasn't going to be a point at which I was gonNA take six fewer months to get the show on air. So and then steph occasionally had some great idea like you wanted to do this. Family Guy Star Wars Crossover would come to me and say I would really like to do. This is their way we can do us. Come up with a plan and put together Parse down budget as much as I could because like a good idea to me. And it's something you wanted to do but then I talk to the studio about it and it would be like I was out of my fucking mind like no. We're not spending another dollar to do some frivolous idea. You know and there was that sort of lack of maybe this could be commodified. It's odd couple ideas. Well maybe if you put it on. DVD and you could get some money back for what I ended up making them hundreds hundreds of millions of dollars and they wanted more but it was always I was sort of constantly met with be made to feel like I was like a female child presenting some like ridiculous idea and not something that was like a good business idea. Maybe make a billion dollars on this and something George. Lucas wanted to be involved in with us there. I always just like a sort of lack of imagination when something like that like I was always asking for something and not being a partner in creating something that I wouldn't make any money off of it. I was doing a cassette wanted to do. It wasn't like a money thing but ended up making the studio a lot of money and I have to imagine would have been different if I had been a dude given and that struggle I mean. Obviously when you're hiring people talent always wins out to hire the people who can do the job that said are you involved at all and trying linked to create any kinds of mentorship for women who are coming up through the ranks. Of course. Yeah yeah totally I mean. I don't hire the writers but I encourage them To think outside the box of being just white men and family guy has been through a couple of different rounds of the current showrunner have taken up. That challenge engine hired some women and pure UNAMERICAN data than the same in terms of what I have control over. Yeah absolutely I sort of make it a mandate for all the other aspects of the show that control the hiring on that in terms of talent. There's always the limitations of availability and if for production and people working in those areas. I have mandates because there's no reason to not hire people of Color and women at the same rate they'd have to figure it out my line producers on the shows work with women animation which Che's Organization that promotes jobs for women automation. It's still a bit of a struggle. Certainly my generation I was raised and my mom was a doctor. She was independent but I was not race. I think I could be a television comedy writer or I could draw cartoons and make a living. I mean I think maybe the millennial generation the new generation there may be a little more relaxed about the Macon. You can live in thing but the idea that you could write jokes for a living kind of a male you can do anything. If you're a white male crowing on break you could do. That could actually be a job. That was that would team and say to me. I realized I wanted to originally be an animator. Working Animated Pretty Young and I was going to art school in my mother. We'll make sure they have courses in art therapy therapy or you know somebody that didn't involve actually drawing and you know what legitimate concern when you're not dude and you have to make a living you have to have a certain a certain level of outside confidence to think you could be a television comedy writer and support yourself and not be concerned but there are many more women coming up as artists now than there were of my generation which is so bizarre because the early days so many of the animators were in fact we are yeah of Innovation Animation Asian in terms of it being sort of viable market has ebbed and flowed a lot over the years and during those times it was you know the glory days man it was like the desert for couple generations and right now there's a ton of work are lot of opportunities for anybody but again you have to have a sense of confidence that you could possibly make a living. I'm doing that and not think. Oh I have a real job and have some sort of real trained to do something and you know that's been lacking in women for generations. It's nice to see that the young generations have much more sense of confidence about that. But you know having it really integrated with non white people to a challenge. It's the same. Hey how you don't have like a trust fund to be able to really think you can get a job to do something wrong and then to go and train to do something to be like a cartoonist. You have to have some sort sort of fallback I guess or else. It's terrifying on medicine. Were still practicing. Joined Dr Steven Payback and Bill Kurtis for real conversations with the medical professionals who have their finger on the pulse of healthcare in the modern world available on all your favorite pod casting platforms produced by Kirk. Oh media We'll fire up the way MAC machine. You want to work for broadcast arts. I mean they were the ones who did pee. Wee's playhouse yeah. I went to school of visual arts and studied various forms of art including animation. That was I wanNA torque and but I had other jobs got out of college for a few years and then eventually I got my first job in animation broadcast starts and it was the biggest commercial animation Russian house in New York then and it was really like the cool place to be did mostly commercials that I was hired to be the assistant of one of the partners who wanted to expand and do television series and we did a pilot for NBC called. Jackie gleason show You could maybe find out online because it's pretty insane. It's like Edison as a talk show host. I didn't go didn't get picked up You know like Bo Jack Horsemen or something like that and it was crazy now but back then I was like like. This is the stupidest thing and I remember. It was like Brandon Tartikoff and he was there and we were pitching a stupid idea to him in the office at broadcast arts. And I just remember thinking and then he was like okay. Yeah sounds good. Did this pilot and terrible and they did the post production out in La. For some reason. So I came out here for maybe only second time I'd been in La. And then. I sort of realized that I would maybe have to move there if I wanted to do anything. Outside of commercials commercials animation. So you made the jump. I did and I didn't know anybody and it was a different time. It was cheap to live here and I temped Sir Temp Agency for about a year and a half before I got a job and I remember. I was at a a temp job at a bank and I would read. The trades and Herrmann was setting up an animation animation division and. That's when that sort of started to happen where studio stores starting to want to do animated movies so they had a studio in Glendale high. I period that they were just setting up so I had had experienced animation New York and the very few people had any experienced working animation production. So I I jog outside side of this. Two years of tempting was really good. It was on a movie called base. Kids it's sort of like a cult hit now -fensive incisive now but it was. It was fun. It was kind of a flop I guess but I worked there for a couple of years and then when that was done. I don't know I worked at so many different studios because you'd dude mutant nights did yeah. I went to work it up. Studio called Fred Wolf Films. And it was sort of the dying days of the Ninja Turtles and produce like the last few seasons of that that and then a bunch of other shows one called Dino babies which is what we think it was and I did a bunch of like these straight to video. Do you hope Bible story things. And during the first season of Cosmos some of the producers wanted me to veer more towards like realistic style animation. And I wanted. AH TO BE WAY MORE ABSTRACT and I couldn't find a way to describe what I was afraid of because we couldn't make it like Disney. We had a small budget and not a lot of time so I went to stylized realized to make it seem adult not wonky I kept thinking back to those fucking Bible videos and it was that the animated Jesus that looked so walk. Msf I did these videos. And it's like the animated. Jesus that's what it's GonNa look like if I make him look realistic and walking around like a man. It's GonNa look like those videos. And so he would use that reference all the time whenever one of the producers should move a little more realistically and he's local more human and he'd be like now that's my point to the right to do not even and I mean it's hard to make anything look adult animation. Rise if you're going to naturalize it it's just fucking impossible but that's the kind of stuff I did talk about how you wound up at Hanna. Barbera and meetings seth I think had left Fred Wealth for some reason and a friend of mine. WHO's working at Hanna? Barbera and they were looking for someone to produce show. Oh Johnny Bravo dear part of cartoon network at that point and they were part of Turner Television and they had a program called think it was. What a cartoon or something like that where they were producing shorts for anybody could submit an idea? Nobody's it was spearheaded by a guy named Fred Seibert. Who worked there at the time? It was really brilliant and through. That program SAF came he. was you know. Twenty two or something and he had moved to L. A.. Because he had a short and it launched launched cruise like Gandhi Tarkovsky. WHO's like a director at Sony? And he did Dexter Laboratory. And then there's power puff girls and it really brought enormous amount out of talent end but Johnny Bravo was the show that seth was assigned to they'd into his short but they put him on the show and he was a story board arts and a writer and we became really really good friends. There was a point maybe two years in when that show is finishing and then warner brothers came in and took over there like the big central casting corporate corporate takeover of Hannah barbaric and cartoon network. It was sort of like you know had umbrellas to some amazing play store. It was where television animation was born in the foot stones jetsons and all the stuff that people my generation grip right and mine Tanna and barbaric basically created the idea idea TV animation. And they did it there at the historic studio over on co-anchor and it was just really fun in now stealing myself for the Disney takeover. Are I think about out that it was one day. It was just. It was just over. Like Warner Brothers to just come in and the good times were over but I feel really lucky. Told work there for the last two years of that studio when we're sort of figuring out we didn't know what was really happening and so a bunch of the artists on my show where like coming up with ideas to pitch to other other studios. 'cause they didn't have jobs. So Seth was working on this short for what became family guy and all. These guys are doing officers at Hanna. Barbera one of the other writers and and artists on our shows which Hartman who I think developed and then pitched the fairly odd parents which became a big show over nickelodeon. But while we're at Hanna Barbera. I got the job then over a Sony and when family guy eventually got picked up by Fox my boss at Sony wouldn't let me leave the lower and one of those things where I didn't have contract. I could have but he just mind fuck me. And he's like this is your show. That's not your sh you know so I stayed at Sony and produced a show. Called Dilbert was based on the comic Strip for two seasons and then that was canceled out on. UPN and then they put me on a movie. That Adam Sandler was doing called eight crazy nights animated movie. It's only producing that and it was not going. Well it was nothing to do with Adam Sandler and those guys were great. It was my producer. Look same personnel. Wouldn't let me leave to go to family guy. Or you're butting heads and Steph called and said can you come over to acts like he knew I didn't have a contract movie and so I decided to leave and it was. It was a big fuck fest of people like freaking out at at Sony and awful time you know and I kept questioning myself. Imagine imagine if I had stayed on movie not gone to family guy so I laughed and we did one season and then it was cancelled but it was still it was wonderful experience and then it ended up coming back a couple of years later so not only came back but again thirty five show order everything else yeah. It was super exciting. At at that point. It was really exciting. Because these fans that no one really knew existed came out of the woodwork leading up to when we were going to re premier they do these live events were the actors would do like a live table read. They were like the Beatles. Oh seem saying people were so crazy about the idea that family coming back. It was really fun and then then we just got beaten down on by all the episodes and all the things they made us do. Why did you want to become an animator? And what made you think that you could really do it. My grandfather was from Germany and he was sort of obsessed with animation and his engineer and he had like eight millimeter real of Walt Disney films and he was sort of obsessed with it and at some important I just remember maybe eight or nine having conversation with him about it. And he's like Oh you're going to be an artist and I was like but I want to like the idea of trying to explain to him. The idea of conceiving of something anything and not being able to see it was very frustrating for me. I don't really know why it was frustrating. Me But so the idea of being able to conceive eve of something like a dog and a cat and a banana field whatever and then be able to draw it and actually put it in motion and be able to see it. It was very compelling for me and then I became obsessed with that idea of figuring out how to do it and my grandfather and I made like flip balk or something and I was obsessed with watching cartoons to I went to very small schools incorporate Philadelphia and small private high school where I was considered like the art award and thought it was great and we only went to art school on. I very very quickly figured out like there are people that seem to be painting Rembrandt. It was a rude awakening like I sucked compared to most of the people at school and I did my classes classes and I learned a lot I was very competitive growing up a lot of things well and then I got to New York and I was a little bit younger than my classmates. I was like fuck for people like painting so I kinda quickly decided that it might be easier for me to sort of facilitate facilitate projects rather than to actually do them. And I could dry and I can animate but I would not have been successful. Had gone that route. I really did not have a lot of the talent is a producer I do. It is kind of talent kind of well. You'd be surprised but people don't hopefully most of our listeners. Know just how hard producing is. It's pulling together project. It's making happen in television in particular. I mean people talk about film being director's meeting him but television is definitely the producers medium. Yeah and I think that the shows I produce are on an arcane model the streaming model. They don't do twenty two episodes of television. But we still do that. The Simpsons still does that it really a metric ton of work and animation takes a really long time. I mean that's like a year and a half you know it's it's an exhaustive metalworking working. Everything's hand drawn. It's like it's not computer spitting anything out now. The big question growing up as a kid. Disney Warner Brothers. I say Hanna Barbera Vera. They were my favorite shows. But those were really my Saturday mornings. I loved the Disney movies. You know those are sort of special events offense but had a Ribeiro was really those series that they would turn out all of them. buffoons was my far away my favorite show ever. I think it's still is so growing up. You were talking about how Cosmos wasn't event in your household just how mind blowing as it now to actually be producing causes. Yeah it is I mean you know I still will hold the Carl Sagan in so much reverence and I feel like it's something different. It's not that show. It's sort of a whole new new creation and after we produced the first season and it became so popular and people loved it so much. It was amazing because everything do things so difficult and the amount of work you put into animation is it takes so long and it's such hard work and to see that kind of reaction was is really wonderful onto see Neil degrasse. Tyson basically became like a superstar because of that show and it was amazing to see people actually wanted to see a science show the millions and millions of people they broadcast simultaneously all over the world and they were desperate for a science show. Yes and if and seth hadn't sort of pushed Stanton said we just WanNa do this. Let's do it because I mean family guy so let me do this. You know no one would have thought of doing something like that. Like putting a science show on Fox on Sunday night. Speaking speaking of Superstars Seth. I mean this is a guy who aside from starting off an animation and now running these shows for Fox this guy who sings at Carnegie the hall and the Royal Hall and has released five albums and is hosted the Academy Awards and is putting the other great television on the air. And he's pick pick to you. Well let's just pick me long before any of that happened to me. He was you know maybe a couple of weeks after knowing him when I I realized that he was different was special. And he's someone that like you know is it for one show Emmy never will and I think there is a great amount out of resentment because he was touted as the youngest show runner ever or the million dollar deal. Whatever I mean maybe people realize this now but he's one of those few people that deserve this? He's so fucking king talented. I've never seen that anybody else. I mean I watched him like teach himself how to play the piano. He's never afraid to make a fool of himself. Alta gives a huge asset. Because I'm always afraid of me myself but he's never had like one toe underwater thing we did a fundraising event produced. And he's like I think I think I'm going to tap dance. I'm like what so. He took tap dancing last like. Who would do that like that? Takes balls as grand up there. He's the most talented did voiceover actor I've ever seen in my life and it's just unbelievable what he can do you know. I think it's been a double edged sword in terms of the shows aren't win awards don eighteen seasons and every other fucking animated show is. Why then is it because he and you are so dedicated to pushing the envelope in terms of what you can get away with peas pushing vote in terms of what can get away with? I think where I push. The envelope is in quality absolutely unrelenting. I will never go into anything. If I'm not sure I can be one hundred percents successful which is one of the reasons why originally said no to working cosmos and really get it and understand if I do it. It's going to be the best. It can be fortunately south and I were on the same page and didn't have to work within the confines building. Something from scratch and I've worked in a lot of animation studios and you have to work within their own systems of how they think things should be gone and to me. It's never right now. I want to do it so I have a really hard our time ever going to work within someone else's system again so when you think back to why you wanted to do this as a kid and where you are now. How's it turned up? Are you happy yeah. I can't complain. It's really. It's worked out. Well yes and for all might griping and complaining about some of the the systems of of oppression will always be there amounts given an amazing opportunity to exactly what I wanted which was to create a system. Exactly how I wanted it to to be or how I felt you needed to be and to be able to hire everybody it just you don't have to ever work with an asshole you don't ever have to hire someone everyone is. It's great that the studio or otherwise they don't work there and two wonderful place to be and I work with amazing people and I didn't get into animation as like just a way to get into energy. I don't ever want to work at any other. I don't WanNa work in live action television not interested in any of that it just this medium that I love and I love working with artists and seeing the results results of all that hard work on the process. Thank you for taking us inside all of that. Thank you our guest today. CURVELLO executive producer family guy and and so many other. Hollywood unscripted is was created by Kurt Co media and presented in cooperation with the Malibu Film Society. This episode was hosted by Scott Tall with guest. Cariballo produced and edited by Jenny. 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A Journey Through Her Lens: A Chat with Aria Noelle Curzon

The Road to Rediscovery: A Life-Learning Journey for Growth

39:16 min | 3 months ago

A Journey Through Her Lens: A Chat with Aria Noelle Curzon

"An Life's journey we must seek to reflect, learn and grow old welcome to the road to rediscovery with your host Aubrey Johnson. Wherever you are good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening. Welcome to the roads rediscovery. I'm your host, Aubrey Johnson. It's so great to have you on the journey with me. The roads or rediscovery is about reflected on life lessons to learn and grow from them, and to take it to the next level and help others who were struggling through dark times. My special guest was born in Hollywood and didn't have to go far to pursue her career as an award winning on camera and voice over actress known for her voice work in the land. Before time series, she's done scores of radio and TV commercials in starred in TV series and films such as without a trace. Sabrina, the teenage witch and the muppets and much much more you're in for a treat we're going to learn more about her journey landmarks and milestones and what's in store for her on the road ahead. Let's give a warm welcome to Aria Noelle Curzon. Aria welcome to the show. How are you doing? Doing about as well as you can expect I'm doing pretty well and I'm very lucky and blessed right now in in these times so. Thank you for asking I'm doing great. Yeah. I. Am just so glad to have connected with you so that we can talk and just share a glimpse of who you are and what your journey is where you're going with the listeners and just some of those, some of those tremendous nuggets of knowledge right and lessons that you've learned in your journey so. I'm just thrilled to have you and I'm doing great. Thank you. All. Right. So let's learn about Aria. Okay. You were born and raised in southern California is that right? Cranked awesome. Awesome. Can you share with the listeners? How did you get started in into acting? Well it's go to the beginning. I I remember being pretty young I was really into Shirley Temple and you know other cute shows like that when I was a kid and I just remember thinking like people will compare me to her 'cause my curly hair muzzle little. Blond. Kid and It was kind of suggested that may be my parents should try to get marshalls and my parents are both performers in their own right there musicians for the most part But my mom unachievable cold-weather horns and started looking around for agencies late in the phone book. Lakers. Way Back then know. And she was able to get you know when I was four or five shoes able to get. A. Couple of meetings with some agents and I got representation a pretty quickly was very lucky and I started auditioning and a very quickly got a fair amount of working commercials and then transitions. Early. But it started in the voice of world because it was I could read and I had a fairly unique voice for a child and that was pretty articulate so. It just kind of went from there and. John Answer the question. No you did for sure. In fact, I think you even answer the next question, which is which was, how did you cross over into voice acting, right? Yeah. Yeah. Anything more. You have to add to that as far as making that crossover in the voice acting I mean you were still doing on camera stuff I'm sure but this was an added skillset is at right. Exactly yeah. It was lay back. Then agents kind of had different departments for every part of the industry modeling Commercials Bell Voice Averge. So my agents who were descending the other things Things started coming up in voice over the thought of me for their like maybe we should get in. Touch with a mom got it in just sort of wait for it may vary one of my very first roles ambition foreign booked was the iconic role. I'm very proud of this one kind of role of pebbles Flintstone for a Hanna Barbera series cul kid kids. And I got to do like six six or eight episodes. I forget how many now when I was six years old. So it's really quite a big splash into the animation world because I got to go to handlebar era studios, which has iconic history with Flintstones jetsons and all their hundreds of shows probably. Eight Bill Hanna, your Barbara and was very, very cool experience and just from their blossomed naturally. I would just. Get quite a lot in. A pretty. I don't remember was kid really remember. How much addition versus booked right if he goes working pretty consistently. And then I got when I was eight years old. That's when the role of duckie. Team around from the land for time. And my agent they had already had a bunch of auditions and I wasn't even going forward. But we found out that it was happening through another friend who audition and lay agent kind of put neck out there for me and got me an audition and she was like this is the girl and she's the one. I don't know why she believed in me a journalist like eight years old, but she was really great. And I still are to this day Ernie Mizzou eljay. In. Yeah I went in and I got the role and. Twenty years of doing that voice. So it's been a good one. Amazing. Tremendous what an experience I mean an exciting experience I I personally I'm I'm a huge hanna-barbera fan I grew up watching the flintstones grew up watching the jetsons and and I guess Yogi. And all those guys in and to be able to go to the studios and and meet the creators right the ones whose names is out there you know for for the branding of of that of of that animation. That's tremendous actually on something that might. Relates to this I can show it to you. Okay Yeah. Please do. Okay. I can't leave Kizer on my wall, but this is a original animation sell. They just gave me back men from the show. I. Got I loved these things are got so obsessed with animation cells as a kid because of that. Either this is how This pictures being with them with Bill Hanna and Jewelry Era. That's was. Raising. Joel Berry had the coolest office. It was full of toys and you could tell it was an animator moguls office for sure I. Bet I. Bet man that is awesome. Thank you so much for sharing that. Yeah I mean those are like pebbles and Bam Bam I mean iconic iconic characters right in an iconic. Show that really changed things way back win at first started. So to be a part of that is something to be very proud of I. appreciate you sharing that. So when it comes to The journey that you've had thus far. Well, let's not say thus far but let's say in the early days right I'm assuming based on your career early in life that that ah traditional childhood, it. To say that you've had a traditional childhood would really be kind of modest you've had more than. Something outside of a traditional childhood is at accurate. I suppose that could be said I. It's Kinda taken growing up and looking back on it as again. It felt pretty normal to me. And my parents I think did a good job at keeping me grounded and focused on what matters in life more than just fame and success So it always to me, it always felt like a fun after school activity or sports or any any thing any other kid would do But yeah. There is definitely that dynamic of. Having, been on TV and in that difference that that creates a free with your peers maybe who haven't on TV but I was always in and out of lake regular school. So I got a I got a good feel for that I was also home schooled on enough out was. Outside of the normal experience sure Chirac. Overall I feel like I was protected pretty well from the negative more negative sides of Hollywood and. I came out of it. Okay. No that's that's awesome. That's great and it's beautiful. I love here in that because I don't know I've heard. Some stories just documentaries I. Don't know how true they are but. up. People who start in entertainment in Hollywood at a young age and as they get older, you know go a certain path and that path may be a little deviated from the original plan you know and and and because there are pockets of that I would believe in Hollywood. Anything else you know it can be a slippery slope you know it could be easy to to to go in that direction especially when you start feeling I don't know the fruits of fame and fortune and that sort of thing. So it was really awesome to hear that your parents kept you grounded. You have a great sense of humility about you. You know and just grateful for the opportunities that you've had and continue to have So yeah. Coming out on the other side squeaky clean and shiny. That's that that's a that's a beautiful thing. So out scenes when it came to like your scheduling routines was I would imagine your parents would have kept you on a pretty steady routine that that that that that wasn't too outside of what a normal child would go through right when it comes to brush your teeth going to bed you know and the having supper plan with friends and that sort of thing. Absolutely, even when I was hopeful never starved for interaction with people fuller you know we had a good family life when we did often do dinners together and I don't remember how strict bedtime wise because I was raised an only child. So run at wiggle room you try to. But yeah for the most part I was lucky enough as a kid to be able to explore a lot of interests I was always doing in our classroom Lasser, horseback, riding ice skating. something. And so maybe that was a little bit. Outside of a routine but there are times you know where the same I'd have to do those things every week on whatever they. May. Be some sort of long-term routine. And I will say like productivity as an addendum or an additional thing to your prior question of because I was lucky enough to come out fairly unscathed. They'd definitely whatever documentaries you've seen probably attitudes to them because I've certainly seen. Plenty, of colleagues and peers who go all kinds of different ways so Understood understand. What will I appreciate you sharing that as well you know and that's that's something. that. I don't know it. Kind of reaffirms what I've watched. I, don't know. All right so I'd love to talk about I'd love to talk about. Let's say the voice over piece. Okay You know. I I kinda have I. Dabble in voiceover just a little bit the prior area that I came from, which is Cincinnati Ohio. I I have representation in fact I still do. and. for a voiceover projects that with clients that that I've worked with over the years and I've done one cameras stuff too right. So again from the mid west, very low visibility nothing national I've done some regional stuff but anyhow I. It's a passion of mine that I've had since two thousand one right and so I've done a lot of reading up on voice over before taking the plunged actually get into the networking with you know with people and creative directors and all that sort of thing. So one of the things that I've learned when it came to voiceover is that let's say. rewind back to the seventies or the eighties. From what I've understood. Back at. In those years in those times voiceover was kind of considered an afterthought type. GIG, right. So it almost secondary to on screen acting when it came to commercials TV shows films and that sort of thing. But then as you fast forward ten, fifteen, twenty, twenty-five years with the advancement of technology. with the advancement of just A. Animated Movies and now it's not just you know Disney that's the king of the hill so to speak but then pixar comes in a bunch of others right Now, you have big names, big names, allister's right that are being asked, and willingly you know participating their voice in movies. I mean, think of Tom Hanks in toy story. Right Mike, Myers Eddie Murphy in Shrek and that sort of thing. So with the big name animated films you've voiced you know like with pebbles and with the land before time. Does just explained. Represent some of the things that you may have had to contend with when it came to auditioning and getting parts. Locally, I've definitely seen that evolution myself on being pretty aware of what the industry is like in the early nineties when I started. You're right. The voiceover world was completely separate voiceover stars were voiceover stars and movie stars were movie stars and and. What seemed like a lot more work because it was like this tear the top choice over people were doing the biggest roles than everybody else you know taking in what was left and now in the celebrities come in and take the big ones than it's like the top guys are now kind of doing the second you know supporting roles and then So I've definitely seen that dynamic clay but on on the same token in the same token, as you said, there's a lot more being produced. Now there's a lot. Opportunities in content that needs met needs talent so As a friend of mine. Rob Pulsating said. A higher tide raises all boats or something like that. Just go. In everybody everybody can. Find It. All for sure. There's a lot of work for everyone, right? Especially now with the different types of modalities of voiceover. Audio books now and podcast news. We know and the voice recordings for companies and that sort of thing. So there's tons to be had out there for those wanting to dabble in the voice over world for sure. Thanks for sharing that with US Aria much appreciated. So You've won awards. Okay and you've landed big parts on TV and in movies. All achievements. one can say quote the scent is sweet. So. Any poignant times in your career where you feel you can of fell short but really took to heart in the learning from that experience. Is. There anything like that you can share. Interesting question. Within the context of a job or role. Well. Yeah. In in in in any context basically maybe there is a part that you receive but you in your hearts may not have felt that you've played out that role to your fullest potential you know or or maybe it's something you were really hoping to get that you didn't you know in any capacity in your career is there is there any any event like that that happened? I can see that. Being true in multiple ways actually I mean. A lot of artists, fingers, somewhat perfectionists and I could listen to just about any role or watch anything I've done and be like Oh man. What did I do that? It shouldn't matter. Maybe maybe it's the editor's choice or maybe it was just me. On a on a fine like it with a fine tooth comb, you could go through just about anything in life and. Maybe wish you would have done it a little differently. But as far as a specific example. Couple Walk Rolls A. Would have gotten a even small ones like A. Small part in the titanic would have been. Going down and so with all those people. Yeah. Yeah. Off. There's this other one. I mean, there've been times. I think reactor has you blow an audition you just know it in your soul like this. You weren't prepared. You're thinking of something else or something you really were excited about somehow the stars just don't align a some actors who are good actors not good auditioners. So that can be its own challenge you know. Yeah. But one of one of the roles I really wanted was actually not a voice of role. It was something I'd never done before and are you familiar with Princess and the frog? Disney? Yeah slightly but but yeah. Well I. that's one of my favorite Disney. Lippi's I'd I. I just love it. I was going to audition for the. Live action. Part of the Rural Charlotte where I would be acting out the the scene for the animators to animate like you know. I wanted that job so bad I. didn't get it but. It's such a that's not really a a genre part of the industry. I think many people are aware of that. There's actors who? will do the scenes so that the animators can make it more realistic in. Did they do well, I guess I was wondering if they did the lion king like that because that's my favorite Disney film and you know. Like like when it comes to. Okay I'm I'm going to go slightly off topic, but you'll see why al get back to it. Like when it comes to say video games right from. From a technology standpoint I understand that you know a lot of these like electric arc sports you know they will have an athlete say in a certain suit with the lights on their body you know on the suit making movement so that they can capture those mood movements digitally. Right? To to to have in a on the game. So I'm thinking it's something similar to that for the physical movements to capture in the animation on Disney's part. Is that right? That's A word for it I I should know motion capture thinking I. Think it may be motion capture for sure. Yeah. Strictly associated with digital. Animation. But as far as I know consistent frog was actually still hand-drawn. Don't quote me on that but away it looks to me looks and drawn so. I think it was still or the old fashioned legacy. Look Up Allison Wonderland there are side by side. Examples of the actors. Who did the voice acting out the scene The mad hatter and he's doing all the stuff and they put it right next to the animation and it's the same. I think it's gone back wildest in all this thing even before the digital ocean capture stuff. All Nice. Gotcha. Okay. All right. Well, that makes sense. Yeah. That definitely makes sense and you know I. Know You auditioned for that. You really wanted it ending, get it but. One. Thing. I've learned at least I again, brief exposure to to to be in a talent is And I know and I believe every actor kind of goes by this mantra we try to give it our best and give it our all on the auditions. Excuse me. Although. Some of US may not be good auditioners. I consider myself not that good of an audition her. But The the old adage is you know when you're auditioning for a part, you're not really auditioning for that part per se not only that part, but you're also auditioning for future parts in future roles of future productions down the line because you know the producer or whoever makes the decision may say They're not quite who I had in mind for this, but they would be spot on for that. You know. Yeah has has has has that been a common mindset for yourself or for your peers other actors? Yeah I've heard that directly from many casting directors and from people that worked with the casting directors absolutely key people in mind because it helps make their job easier to like. Instead of having to go through a thousand people. I remember that guy with the deep voice we now we need that in in who was right for the little insect character, urbanize raper giant or whatever. And I don't people. Have auditioned for things in years. Later they get a call because someone remembered them. So it's always good to be positively memorable and. Be, unique to because uniqueness helps you stand out you know. Like everybody then we only have many other options. No so true hundred percent. So what have you learned so far about yourself throughout this journey How? That's a good question. I mean, could go record take hours to answer but. I think I've learned a lot about growing up from that place being having a lot of success as a kid. Doesn't necessarily set you up for being an adult and the challenges and things that will arise in the self determination that it's GonNa take to transition through that period also being a kid actor I would say. Just being friendly life loving kid in general like I was pretty much a people pleaser and I've had to learn over many many years have to. have some better boundaries and say, no, if I, if I need to say no. That's just a constant journey, but I also learned that. That this whole acting thing is is pretty much in my soul to some degree because even take breaks don't think about it for a while it. There's always something there that comes alive when I get the opportunity to be creative like that. Very. Nice. Very nice. So what is the best advice you have received? In your career. Advice I would say. Just to treat everybody well, treat the second ad assistant person just as well as you would their decorative producers. It's kind of a negative way of putting it. But someone said, you know people you meet on the way we're going to be the same ones that you see a way down. said that yeah, yeah for sure I've heard that too. So I no matter what happens our hard. You try in life you're GONNA get what's meant for you and your and some things are not gonna be meant for you so. A. Changing your nature of the person or disregarding others or during the process is is not gonNA pay off in the long run you know a for sure it's not no, it's not So. Some may acknowledge success. Okay. The term success. As reaching a target or a goal or A significant milestone in their lives, right I personally believe in my heart of hearts that success is more about the direction that you're headed and not so much a destination. That's just my own personal feel for the word itself in what it means at its truest essence, right? So How does how does Aria define success? Really Great, question I was I was seeing something recently that was talking about how you see the before picture the after picture, and it's never before and after its before and during because once you get to that after you have to keep living and you have to eat growling and so in my and maintain it to you know. Is a goal or whatever it is. I'm so success to me is definitely a mindset that every day you're gonNA use what you have to. Do what you can I mean on whatever level that means for you and it's GonNa. Not Letting. The. Seeing the bigger picture because sometimes when you're trudging through like every day, you're not seeing any big. Growth or not seeing any big accomplishments it can feel like, why am I even doing this? But if you look back over five years and on, you'll be able to see how far you've come under STU remember that you can it just just as far again in another five years and. There's always something to work towards L. continue rowing us that success to me. That's right. Continuous improvement continuous growth one, hundred percent. Sweet. So what's next for Aria? What's down the road for Aria? Well. Something I'm discovering every day. Really. I am engaged my fiancee, his violinist and Grizzlies. Thank you. Thank you. He's really incredible. His name is Alex debut if anybody wants look. Highly trained. I'm telling you because. Really. Together that are of what I've done. My life is music as well. Singing Dancing So when I've been seeing with him sometimes when he has a gate which hasn't happened in several months now because The. Moment. but we we are working on things together. I am still. Putting my hand, the rain for voiceover I have a home studio. So hopefully seeing or hearing me in some future projects that. This moment. Hey, I mean that's another beauty of voiceover. In the world we live in today with the pandemic and everything I, mean you know there still an opportunity to to land gigs? Right? I mean you can always remote in. Having a home studio not necessarily physically physically in the same room as someone you know you can. You can. You can do the GIG. Practicing social distancing I. Guess is what I'm saying. That since the START I mean, it's the perfect. Yeah, no totally is you know and I agree with you because I still have several clients that I've established relationships with from doing gigs back in Cincinnati five years ago before I moved you know and is still have connections with them and every now, and again when they you know want some refreshed work, you know they they reach out to me and and you know we have that equity we have that history together. So that's a that's a good thing to have. You know it truly is. Relationship I know that you can. You can trust you and Delivering product. So absolutely nervous. On right on. So are you a I? Really really really want my listeners to know how can they connect with you or follow you or learn more about you keep up to date in the different projects you're working on how can the listeners learn more value? Okay. Let me figure out where to start I am on facebook. Fan Page is. A. Victim Dot com slash Aria Noelle hers on fans. It's kind of long but maybe you can link it or something I'm on Instagram is a Aria national her on official I believe. It's a lot to. And you can. He attention think how else I mean I'm on twitter but really tweet all that often. So you can keep up with me right here on the road to discovery. About that, that is awesome and yes, you know the Instagram, the facebook links, we will definitely put those in the show notes so that our listeners can correctly click from those. Links in the show notes. Get to your social mediums. One, day. I was going to be doing my very first convention this fall in. September. In Harrisburg Pennsylvania was GONNA be the Harrisburg PA IN COMIC CON. and. It's been canceled for obvious reasons. I just want to say that I would love to do conventions and apparently the way people get. Called for those when people start requesting them so If. Anybody's out there and you know but convention coming up you want to meet me They generates the person look no. Okay? No. For sure I mean I I will definitely pass that along and the listeners you've heard it right now live or live slash recorded. Keep. Your eyes peeled for any conventions that are out there and I'm more than happy to let you know of any that I that I know of as well. All right man, this has been a great conversation I mean I have been thrilled to learn so much about you and your journey the things that you've learned on your journey Thank you for sharing it with the listeners Aria, and now we're going to go to a segment I like to call three for the road in three the road. That's where I I kinda challenge by guess by asking three random yet thought provoking questions. That I challenge you to answer in five words or less. So what do you think you think you might be up for it? Our give it my all. All. Right. That old college try that's that's awesome. Question. Actions Count as one word or two. I will them count as one how about? Cold. Fasting, and by the way you know sometimes a guests will answer the questions and such a deep profound way that you know they get on a roll and its way past five words and I just let him go because they're on a roll, right so so if you get past five, it's no big deal Also, my three for the real questions are very customized. So I don't ask the same questions to all my guests. So yours are. Pretty much customized for you. All right. So question number one for three for the road. When you're taking a fifteen minute break on a long filming project? What is your Go-to Food and why? tacos. Nice every time. Every time like street tacos. Yeah. Very Good Oh, man, they're delicious to. Love Mexican for. All right. Fill in the blank. Unlike screen acting. Voice acting allows me to. Wear Pajamas. I love it, and it's so spot on Ed so appropriate to. The way we're living. With what's going on today right I mean. My Day job I'm working remotely from home I have been since March, and and and I I like to call it TV anchor gear right where. From from the waist up I have on you know shirt tie jacket and the. From the waist down, it's like Pajama. Pants shorts whatever. Yeah Yeah I. Love That I. Love that Response Great Job three for three for the road. You get to spend one year on the moon. Now, only thing is the moon is stuck in the year two, thousand three. You get to take three films with you. and. That's all you're able to watch there for the, entire year. What are those films? Manage. This is one of those times I'll look back and relation I have chosen all. Right. I'm just GONNA, go on my first instincts here. Okay. This is also, I'm in two, thousand, three. So I'm that age rate that's going back in time. Okay and when I say. Lord of the rings whichever one before two, thousand, three I'm sure there's deep one right? Right legally blonde because I don't know how many times I've seen that movie it's silly but it just kind of a feel good on zone. So right right it is and. Think back a little bit I have to go with the princess bride because. That was one that was introduced to me as a young kid. WISCON- along those family favorites it's cultural favorites. So I think if need comforting in the times of being so far removed from a world. Known for sure for sure another classic too. You know so. Three great movies? Three Great Films Time, I explained with many more words. So I have to go to Lord of the Rings. Areas burned. Okay. We could do that not not a problem. That's fantastic. Fantastic. So there you did it Aria, you've made it through three for the road. Aria I have really really enjoyed our chat. Thank you so much for coming on the show it's much much appreciated. Really think you've ever had any. This was so much fun. Had Fun likewise I had fun too and we're GonNa make sure and have Arias, contact information and links to her social mediums enter fan page. On. The episode show notes. So make sure when you visit. Roads rediscovery dot com, or any other place where you listened to your shows even youtube. Click those links to learn more into follow and to just keep up to date on what's going on in Arias life with all her projects. So thank you so much. I want to thank all of you for tuning in and listening. It's been a pleasure having all of you tune in and please remember the roads rediscovery is available in both audio and video you can listen on Apple. SPOTIFY I heart radio stitcher or wherever you listen to your shows and also in Youtube about a month ago we launched content on Youtube and we are continuing to grow on there. So please check for the roads rediscovery on your youtube channel. Ra Thanks everyone you know we're all roadies on this journey of life and you know what? 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After The Show 643: Scoob 4KUHD Review

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After The Show 643: Scoob 4KUHD Review

"You're listening to the after the show movie podcasts from Dot Com confined this podcast on the I choose music stokes Google. Play Youtube, voice assistance, just say, listen to after the show maybe focused, and you can also find ace corey dot com where we post written reviews without the way area hosts. Hey, scully sits. Hello said talk. I was going to start with the. Chose not to, but then you chose to do it anyway, yeah! How's that? Thought process work like yeah I'm not going to do it. I'm going to tell everybody else going to do it and do it at the same time, won't you before the after the show discussions? Ski Do. What you were talking about. which was? Remember doing my fitbit thing where you walk around, you'll summit see mountains remember that I dismember anything else. We were discussing except for Scooby Doo and those kind of it. Yeah so let's get onto the show then. It is Saturday July the eighteenth? hoppy Saturday July eighteenth everybody after the show six hundred and forty three were movie review podcast. We look at a new movie every week this week. We're looking at the brand new movie as Scoop. Is a twenty twenty release. You can get it on BLU ray next week. K. also rated PG and our friends at wellness is the full K. release for review. Said Talk Give us. The synopsis of Scuba. Well there's this group of teenagers we're going to put thankful. Tation marks the dog. And they're going to have an adventure with some mysterious also Asian marks bad villain person. To possibly save the day or not. True that pretty much cover all scooby Doo Adventures I'll give you the one off the back of the box here. This is what I mean. Here's my actual summary. It's scooby Doo everybody just seriously. You made a synopsis then you don't need a box well. This is what wanted to tell you it is. They say in Scooby Doo greatest adventure yet. The never before told story of how Scooby and Shaggy I met, and how the famous mystery and cooperate with Now with hundreds of cases solved scooby and the gang face their biggest toughest mystery ever and discover the scooby as a secret legacy on an epic destiny greater than anyone ever imagined. Thank goodness. Really Grunt Nice Yeah. That's pretty big I. don't agree with that. It's not the best biggest adventure ever, or whatever it said might be the biggest budget adventure ever. Only because of the people I guess the people in the the computer animation. So that's the difference between this movie and regular Scooby Doo. It's CGI. Three characters instead of the. Flop Ole Watch it. Slots older animation style. That is still in use today, but this is the mall which is. Superior saying that not an item Asian snob that I. Mean when you're, Scooby Doo Fan yes. I. Enjoy this movie. A lot is really fun. It's just that I. do like the old as you say flat. Two D animation right so this ethically I just. I really love it now. Aesthetically, this was my favorite. I. Love This how this looks this movie? It's. One of the most colorful movies ever seen how colorful movie! I mean I. Think of it the way you did I guess it doesn't look like colorful. I did think it was covered, but it wasn't. You mentioned that less like the third time and I'm like it just looks like three D.. CGI intimations gorgeous, but I didn't think of it as like. It's not like Avatar or anything you know to me well. No, I don't know why. You would compare it so if it's because you're saying. It's colorful over and over and I'm like it's animation. Gallo. Like on the four K. really, it was like really colorful it was. Very Pristine and clean, looking and clay. and. The animations I like that kind of it's almost stop motion animation if this, if these real things. Didn't is didn't see what you saw at all. This frames missing from the animation like the way they do it in the Lego movie, so it makes everything look Kinda, sometimes a such you like. Action figures like stop motion action figures and I didn't see that I just saw it as regular CGI like toys, toy, story or anything like that and I also think is as I said to you when the. An animated movies are in that I would include this movie because I think you know it. Picks stuff in terms of animation. The animation's really it's good. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of detail. There's the not just the animation, the actual art design of the crafts and the robots and All the different, even the actual the characters we know and love from Scooby Doo. It Got Different Lock in this movie obviously right because, but they all matched on the I mean you know you just yeah, absolutely so I think the whole animation style was fantastic for me. I liked the movie, too, but I'll tell you. I didn't like, said talk. Okay. Let's start with that I. really like about Scooby. Doo and I watched it as a kid like you did, and it was Kinda beloved I would watch it every Saturday morning before you know. It was on Saturday morning. Cartoons right for us. It was on every day after school saw probably more repetition than you did. Yeah, so I used to get up early in the morning as a kid set much. Give you love to every. I'm one of the things I loved about. It was going to old Spooky House saw down a spooky mine or inuit, hotel. You know I liked the. K-, it's not horror, but the was like ghost stories and stuff like that. This movie really like makes it into like a superhero movie, not like Spooky I mean there's a there's a brief segment of the beginning. The goes back to old Scooby Doo by go into the haunted house when they little when little versions of ourselves, but the the big story pie is more like going for the Superhero vibe. And it loses all the like you know. The stuff I like about Scooby Doo. Shaggy and Like scared to death. Following them through the Mancha. They're actually none of that is just like you know. Marvel type stuff I would say like. You know they do take some characters. Know from Hanna Barbera stuff right is is on Bob Alright. You did the. While, she called the Blue Falcon correct. So they take all the. Characters you know from like wacky races. They. Put them in there. It losing. But it loses the scary spooky element like completely let there was none of that so. I was hoping that was going to be I was like Oh. Surely they're gonNA come across Shirley Dick Destiny. Use the villain Hiya has like come up with some creepy mansion me. What was that name again Dick Desolate? What was his first name? They make a point of that being like then. Maybe that's one of the language things. Like this guy keeps like. What's your name? I'm I'm Dick Scooby Scooby doesn't say the D.. He says Rick and then he keeps saying no Dick I'm Marie. I'm needed to I. May he said I'm it's Dick. Dick case felt like. I mean it was a Dick joke like in a kid done in the like he's a Dick. That's the joke. I mean he his yeah. Yeah lost all about spooky mystery. Stuff I mean they are mystery incorporated that stuff is not really your they do. Stick to the skeleton of. Excuse the PUN. Thing where you know, maybe the, maybe the body's not the body. Maybe it be a masterpiece. Somebody else. They do that stuff your expect. But I prefer the smaller like. Their own. Fault this mystery island I thought maybe that will be spooky, but nothing's really spooky right nothing. JUS- cartoony. It just goes for the giant like Warren's where with. The. Expense ship. Type thing that looks a bit like his looks a lot like his car from marquee rates. Would you say that you liked wacky races more than Scooby Doo? I did like AC's. I would ask you a question. Did Scooby Doo a pair? McKee, racy, not that I'm aware of, but I don't know if I've seen them all right. Part of the Saturday morning cartoons was wacky races, so I did like about two. I, really love Scooby Doo as well but this. I know it was going for a different VIBE, and it's the three D. animation everything but I would really like to see them in a haunted house of some kind, but a big mystery than the beginning. I mean it shows you the origin story of them at the beginning. When the kids! Go into. You know. It looks like the perfect haunted house from the outside and I this is going to be cool adventure while it lost. three minutes. Where does this data sharing their first? Yeah, spooky adventure on it's. Like one of the old adventures. I would have got away with it if it went for you. Meddling kids I. mean they do that stuff? But then you know the main now what I'd really did like about it was they talk John Loads of pop culture stuff, which is really funny Simon Cowles in this movie. I felt that was really. Cute you know. 'cause you know the use him in a funny way, and there's other things. They mentioned stuff a lot like different. They're aware of movies and TV and share. I like that stuff I thought it was quite funny imparts. Sometimes. It got a bit old night. What got old I? Don't know there was just so. There was some. Part weather in the the Blue Falcons. And then he introduces himself. It just seemed to go on a bit. That pop like there's a lot. Jokes are reused and. Now Yeah. That's where I felt like. Oh! I know this is. Primarily, for kids, All primarily primarily the case and also people who have nostalgia for Scooby Doo because he grew up with it right, it's not just. Like all these things you know, we watch, do as a kid, and we can watch this and relate to it in a in a way because we liked the friendship between shaggy. And Scooby, and the gang you know. Listen to you. We like gang. I liked the gang. The didn't do a lot with. They didn't do a lot with Fred. VALME and Daphne. Thank, those had a big enough part. you know I think they're fine. I liked some of the light. That's referred to. Fred. What did he call? Poor man's woman's Helmswoman. And he's like which one. Do you know there's a lot of funny stuff in. If you've seen the movies, you'll probably find stuff to lava. Do you like the inclusion of Light Blue Falcon? Alight Courage to. Dynamo I mean you mean the Real Blue Valkanov this version? Before like. I mean I watched it every single time. It was on I'm sure I'm not super familiar with it. So. It didn't really do a lot for me, but I knew it was like a new existed before, but I wasn't like Oh my God. You, know it's like spiderman onto. It was like it's one of those where if you can't have scooby on then something like blue, Falcon was fine, and it was the same by same kind of people made it share. The same adventure every you can kind of predict Scooby Doo. I mean well kind of you. Can always you reckon part of the charm right? The share predicted. This well, you almost predicted. This has clubs. The opposite of what is going on. Yeah, so you know. Michael Club exactly. Is a decent length. You know these kind of movies, don't? They're not usually to our picks. This one's nineteen minutes on the nose. To Ninety minutes yeah, perfect for this adventure I like the ancient Greek stuff. Goes this some ancient Greek? Actually, 'cause captain, cave, this cave monster off his ancient Greek stuff I get it all. Yeah, so just throws a loss stuff in, but it was all cool. You know I like. This is a stock which is cool. That was one of the things where I was like out colorful. It's like green red, and it's really like crazy like massive. How did you like the story over? Dredging the story because it Scooby Doo, so the story is always going to be. The bad guy wants to do something for themselves, obviously, the for treasurer or two. It's almost always for monetary gain. Unless it is a real spooky monster, which it isn't. That's just it. That's the whole deal, and then you stop them and you move on, so the story is fine. It could have been anything and that would be saying the exact same thing to refer B- In a fun of. From, You know he's always the I've always liked it. I. Have No idea definitely was going to be the villain so when it zoomed up? Happens like twelve. As the most I shows like no way. Listen think that's the reason this as cool, so I did like that because that really is. A kid of today probably didn't grow up with Dustin. Not Of course not I mean wacky races I'm assuming isn't on the TV all the time. Still right for kids I mean I don't know if all those descended Barra having network. 'cause I don't even know, I. Don't know you never see it just flicking through the never see anything like that on. So. You know maybe there were violent I don't know. They're a bit looney tunes you right? There's a lot of smack in each of the year, so maybe shied away from them a bit now. Because he might be a bit inappropriate. I mean we're fine and we wash. I mean. That's questionable I suppose the. To See does certainly was a big surprise I was like? Yeah, that's cool. Are we going to see? The rest of them. What you know my favorite. What were you favorite? Ones are the marquee races. Favor only don't even know I. Don't remember them the way you do. Yes? You don't remember that kind of specifically number the racism. There was the until mob which were the mafia guys. Would the Tommy guns from back in the thirties remember that? Very kid friendly. Tommy guns and they shoot in the back of the. Funny, they were the film up. There was like the account remember they were call, but they will like. It was basically like a Scooby Doo haunted house on wheels with like Oh. Yes, yes, yes. And stuff in? A dependable they would call. They were cool, and then there was like the professor in appointed car. He was like A. Crazy professor invents gadgets and he's cows. Like will turn into a helicopter or whatever. These are the ones I remember. Penelope pissed up. It was a favorite because she was cool and. Who else does the Motley because they were always cheating by being in a rocket ship or plane jerks. I seriously also you get to see Motley in this film. Like the evil. He's always least just like Dick. You've always called me Mutley because when I get. Really hard. Three and then the motley thing yes. You do yes I do. So! I had a good memories of wacky races and Scooby Doo and other Hanna barbera stuff when I was getting captain, Cayman, what else was? Jabber Jaws. Didn't watch that one obviously flintstones obviously jetsons. Is just look at it long before time was one that stuck out for me to remember that one. When they go back in time. I don't know if it's a cartoon. No, there was a cartoon one the London. That time forgot I think it might be called. I don't think it was about there, but it was in that cartoon block, and it was the one I. Look Forward to the most. Went back in time just a regular family similar to land of the lost. Okay, but a crush London the prehistoric times. It was animation. Think. It was called the London the time. But those are my memories of cartoons as a kid. We all have them. Don't wait. We've also much cartoons. Yeah was totally different than now. You had no access to any cartoons all you served. And like I described I think last week giving up, but before the crack of dawn to lay in front of the TV and just wait for the fuzzy pattern to go off when the cartoons would begin, we had A. Fuzzy Pun in England we had a is called the test. Kat It. We had that, too, but that was. That was like the. Test the fuzzy was all night, and then the test card. Come up for I. Don't know probably in certain amount of time. And then the national anthem would start, and then I see V show so static was all night all right? We'll I was run. The test got all night with this noise. We didn't have that now. If you fell asleep, woke up in the Middle East on the beeping, noise would be always going. Is that why maybe so you turn your even maybe? And then what would happen at six am? The Sky dissipated. The BP knows ago way they would play God. Save the Queen and show you the flack of. Right and then there'd be five minutes of News, BBC News, and then the weather, and then at ten past six in the morning, the cartoons died. I've been watching files. Do you think? Immediately, giving us our national anthem National Song God. Save the Queen. You know our national anthem immediately after you've watched that test pattern are the fuzziness. Some brainwashing. We're also watching. All of the X. files right now. So that is a big. That's a theme and then attempt six the cartoons. And he would literally go from about six to nine am. Oh No, our TV would start very early. Did Yours go like five am I was with six ten till nine am. And, then when nine an came. Cartoons finished, but they had kids like you know like this morning. Like Good Morning America that kids version of the deck hosted. Okay, Hey, so it was just fun games and slamming people and. NICKELODEON thing right. But I would say from ten to. Ten past six in the morning until about noon when they all ended I would watch that whole thing. Yeah me, too. And then I remember also as a noon when all that was over. Wrestling came on British rest. On then I would not a wonder that we are not completely insane insane. I used to go out when the wrestling came ends of the wrestling. I dislike the cartoons silly stuff. So that's our childhoods in. Over reviewing. The Seventies. The seventies in the early eighties, such fond memories, so let's move on here to the cast. This is obviously an automated thing, so their voices will fall tape play shaggy. Who surprised you the most when you found out who was who well? Well. Let's just go. WE'LL FI-. We like him. Because we lost night on earth, he was really funny. We do do we have the same brain now? I think the satellite when you married to each other. One person likes to say we. Feel like will forte sounds like shaggy anyway. He only just tweak himself signed disorder slightly, and then even the way he talks if you think about Thandi from Las Manos. The way delivers dialogues Kinda like shaggy is kind of goofy. So, did you like him? Shaggy share I mean he's just. Always been a little extra gets upgrades at any animated voice to get on my nerves, it would be. Right and there's a little bit, too, you know. There were times when I was listening to him. I was like no. That's just faulting now, not shaggy. Like I, can hear, will it? The one that. Blue Falcon in this movie. We I said to you who who is talking? I was GONNA Settlers Ryan Reynolds combat and I said Oh yeah. I can see that, and then it ended, and then the credits game. Well! which sounds nothing like my will book? Nothing like Ryan metal correct well, maybe he does. We've never maybe subtracted the face from the voice maybe. All Dogs Blue Falcon Jason Isaacs. Australia and I believe right British Australian Donna one of those same. This to you. He plays Dick. Dustin, very brave of you and I think he did really well. 'cause you know it's you know it's over the top correct. Gina Rodriguez played Alma Zaka from played. Fred Amanda Safe Replayed Daphne all fine. Yeah, all good. This is the right to buy Tony Ceremony and he's directed lots of different wallner automation including the scooby. Doo things so you know he is in the one I wanNA run. A renovation is just guest and better, you know they. Do. They have like a giant. Thing like pick well. I was GONNA say like picks up picks don't. They just do different things all the time right I. mean you mean like like giant French I mean like Scooby Doo from I'd say that's the biggest one I don't know. I don't really keep track to do a lot of won't do love like. Mine animation and Holly Quin can stuff. I guess those big then for kids, are they? Usually they're? Grown is at hanna-barbera. No one brothers. Okay I'm sticking with the Hanna Barbera theme like this even on a American on the bucks to see it. Has It anyway? Actually doesn't says WB animation interesting. So maybe they bought. Maybe they bought it up. Some IMDB reviews this the review process. To Go I'm DB and look. No while the people who love this movie think. That'd be so boring so boring. This is the people on MGB. Disliked this movie for some reason or another? Let's see what they think and you're here to make fun of them or in cherish them. We're talking about an animated Scooby Doo movie here and these people spent. I don't know quite a while to write several paragraphs sometimes. On why they didn't like this movie, So this guy says this is not Scooby Doo. For those hoping to watch fun origin story of Scooby Doo I'll maybe a giant fun epic mystery adventure film. This film misses the mark completely what you should expect to see is another average. CGI Animated Cliche, extremely bland, predictable surveyor film. The film tried to accomplish too much. Join its runs on ends up accomplishing nothing. Sangre about the superhero part of the film. Yeah, but that's was what they were going, so you can't really. But Yeah if looking for haunted house Scooby Doo. Unfortunately it's not really. It's next guy says. Where's the heart? We've come to love the cast for a decade, and then you take them all of the on. Hold on. Hold on back it up. How does this person? Doesn't one eighty one decade. Let's go back and let's count the decade, Shall We? It was nine hundred sixty seven. Was it when it started? Well, it goes about the Matthew Lillard EHRE. No well then he's wrong because scooby has been around longer because he says we've come to love this ended. Why take the high on the movie will fall? Tate doesn't do shaggy any justice. This suspension of disbelief is gone with this cast. Believe in this like fully. You believed it I guess I don't. Okay This guy says I'll be honest. It was extremely disappointed with this. I won't be watching this again and I'm mad at myself for having complete. Separate from the movie. He's just. Really mad at him or herself? This guy says they messed up. Not Using Matthew Lillard listeners out of ten won't even give it a chance, and I hope the same for others. Is this actually Matthew Lillard, going on IMDB under a fake name sounds like that. Because Matthew wasn't happy as unhappy, but you know. That's why. This guy says I get it. It's for the kids and they've tried to keep loyal to the old version, but one thing is horrible. How would give it to styles if even at a good scene, but it doesn't. This guy says it completely decimates Hanna Barbara. I think they think the they lady and this lady called Hanna Barbara. How they say it Hanna Barbara Right Barbara by. Coming to get hey? You're making a very different movies. They're. Like. And this finally, this guy says this also trainwreck deserves to be direct to release in the local landfill. Right on. Under the point another thing about this sissies another yet another of this year of the movies that Corona virus. It was supposed to be in thatches. Guy Didn't get to the as he went to straight on video on demand, so it'd be hard for them to judge whether it was a huge success. I guess because you're never gonNA. Get the same amount owed. Money from home fits is open the end. Are you not because you can get a lot? There's a lot more homes than there are seats in theaters. Yeah, you can just get more money at one time, but imagine you know. True. Seven and a half. Tony twice like they used to. True Phone, companies are used to like getting the money from the faces, and then getting money from the home, but this was just literally. You can get the money from the home, and that's it right so. I don't know. At the end light, it could do another right i. mean clearly, but we'll find out in the future. So in conclusion what you give this how many stars you give what you give it out of. How many well we? We have scale every. Time you get a seven point five because. I had a lot of fun I really enjoyed the sentiment, and I disagree that there's no heart heart. It's about friendship. And we knew that from the very beginning, because you form a friendship with scooby and shaggy. It's going to be challenged, and then in the end who wins? It's not really. The bad guy or the good guy. It's just friendship wins, and I'm a sucker for that so I'm all in on. The idea is exactly what sonic which were reviewed. Yeah, and it's fine. It's fine to have a movie. That's just silly and sweet and. It really did make me laugh a lot. I mean I laughed at all the dumb jokes, and at all the dumb references to whatever every little. You know instead of rolling my eyes that urge wasn't there I. was just in it and I was mesmerized by some of the animation, not as Mesmerized as you buy the colorful los apparently, but I was really watching close at the little movements of their mouths, and the hair, and I just had a really good nice time, which is exactly the same as what we said to week two or three weeks ago when we watch sonic, the Hedgehog, yeah and I think that's fine like and then I can turn around and watch you know x files. Episode home called me will be. Equally entertained, but at a very. Very different, way. So Thank you to all numbers. Valentas review the fall as you can pick this up next week. You can pick it up right now. Actually on digital platforms, but if you want a disk, you have to wait till next week. and. Thank you so though me recommendations i. am going with another one of brothers animated movie, and that's the lego movie, which is also everything is awesome about it I'll listen to the air. You know what I'm saying. Yes, Lego I've seen. Both movies actually I like them. Both I one is the best one though. And my other one is my favorite scooby Doo thing, and it's called Scooby doing kiss, the rock and roll mystery came out about six years ago. They actually got to the voices of case. And it was just too. You might need to tell the kids who kiss kiss her wrong them from the nineteen seventies still going to this day. Dress up his carriages rock band like this generic. No impact can guys. They're similar to the Scooby Doo crew as in the episode owners. And! That's true. And there are a little gang. You know stick together friendship all that stuff. I'm that would apply to. Anyway the Scooby Doo. Cartoon was really well animated, and the US the real voices of kiss, and I liked the story to, and what was awesome about it was every now, and then it would break into a musical number, which was wanna kiss songs, and they were saying the song just randomly for no reason, but it was awesome by the. Did you know I wanNa rock and roll all night while they were standing on a spaceship flying. You know slow that you remembered the details you remember that. It was really my favorite Scooby Doo. I love kiss and Scooby. Doo Mixed with kiss was very good. Kiss movie, did maybe they need to put kiss in X. Files? Maybe that like just blow your mind. Kudu Leykis very good. I just like the whole vibe of the whole thing. So. What is your? Recommendation. My recommendation recommendation. lego movie and Scooby Doing Kiss I wasn't listening very close to the whole thing they're. GonNa be, and because people, it's controversial. The different versions of Scooby Doo over the years the different. Like bringing it back to life as an animated series on TV. Whatever your opinion is, it's really is so unimportant. It shouldn't be a controversy, but I liked scooby doo mystery incorporated from I. Think it was two thousand. Forget now two thousand twelve to two thousand sixteen something like that, and it decided whole overarching story. What channel was? I. Don't know I watch. I watch on Netflix so I don't really know. Why we're? Origin at come. On Net flicks I don't know I canceled my Netflix. So. What what a traitor I know I know I watched it and then I canceled that Shit just. It was just really fun. It was one of those I think. I was sick. One Week and I was starting to watch Halloween. Stuff which I like to do around fall. And then this came up and I was like oh I'll watch this. I'm sick and I think I. watched the entire thing over maybe two days maybe three days, and it's three or four years worth as like an overarching story. There's more involvement with the personalities in the relationship, so some people might hate it, but I enjoyed it and I'm fifty two years old. Don't forget this. I'm not like you know. Youngster susceptible to the wooing of the scooby. I'm a mature woman and I still loved it, and then my other one is. An animated movie that I think stands out above a lot of a lot of rises above a lot is fantastic Mr Fox? WHO Directed Zone? You know. Anderson. Paul Thomas, understand no, Wes Anderson. Yes, it is a stop frame animation with little foxes, and it is adorable, and it is kind of. It's a little extra cool, so some people might not like it for George Clooney George Clooney. Boyce is just really sweet. It's a mesmerizing to look at again as entertained by that as I am. The Most Weird X. files or gory movies that you can imagine. I liked to have a wide range of things so fantastic Mr Fox. If you haven't seen it definitely, check it out. Thanks, thanks. I didn't make thanks all right well. I've I've been planning our to mention this one American truck. Sam Has a new deal. C., which they kindly sent me a review code fall and the new while the doing with American truck simulator on steam. Is a PC game. You drive a truck around America and you deliver things from one place to another like a delivery driver would do. You might think. How's that a game well? It is a game like how the game is. I'm playing right this minute. Yeah, I mean. It's like a bit of a business simulator. You start off with nothing and you start off just renting a truck and delivering stuff making some money and then eventually get to buy. A truck business which I have long mines called Hayes hauling which I made myself very proud of it. You know what I'm saying. I think a scully hauling would have been better. Involved so and then I can have a little logo with H H. on the L. got it. Zoom's got it so get your little business, and then as you do longer and longer, truck deliveries and more sometimes, you have to deliver more dangerous things like like highly explosive. You know chemicals to phamaceutical places that kind of stuff. The more tricky. The cargo is sometimes. It's very long like you've got like twenty cows on the bike. You get more money for doing those you got to be on time. You gotTA. Make sure you keep the fuel in the tank. GotTa make sure you go to sleep at the right times. And eventually you start earning money, and then it goes as far as you can even go in and buy hire other drivers by more talks, and then you have them going off doing deliveries that you kind of arrange, and we'll put this out there because a lot of people might be thinking it. That sounds so insanely boring not to me, but think of what you're saying. So meticulously running a business and driving for hours and hours real time often right, not real real time pretty close I mean it. Deliveries take a couple of hours generally if you do a long one. But then you start getting into it because they put, he states in. You know it's not the whole. You don't just get the game and get American trucks in all that have been making these states like giant. So each state is like a deal. See the plugs in. The late one just came out as Idaho and. The states of like accurately model? They've got all the. If there's a scenic feature in a state like the Saint Louis, arch. In Missouri. The Not will be that so they you know it's not you Kinda just driving. Go to your own house. It's not like that, but the highways on the places that you come off the highways way know there's little towns that are accurately modeled on this. The scale is correct. So, you know you drive from one place to innovate you. You're driving the exact miles that it would be so it starts to get into this. Relax so relaxing to play. You! Pick your delivery, and now he's taking you delivery from point. A. To Point B. might take you two days not in real time like it might be two hours. You know you'll drive through the night. Maybe I'll have to stop and sleep. Then you'll be delivering the cargo the next day. What do you think you like about it so much well? It's unlike other games where you shoot in inner bitch. You have to be stressed out all the time. In the, Law Games share. You know let you play in fall night online and you've got to be like very aware that somebody's trying to kill you every second like. There's no relaxing kind of time in. But in this, it has a real world radio where you can tune in the radio. You can listen to music you. Can you know listen to? It's not just pretend. Songs Slyke real streaming radio so I tend to put the radio on. Drive my truck I obey the traffic laws. I stopped trophy lies at use my indicators. is a simulation of the real thing of driving a truck and the hard part comes when you get to the place where you go in, and you have to reverse the truck into the loading bay now it's the hot tub. So, what does Utah to this ads? The WHOLE STATE OF UTAH? Giant in the game. And there's lots of this new thing called. It's like scenic. You can stop at a place, and he gives you like a flyover of that place, so say you stop with the Saint Louis. Adage I'll give as an example. It will give you like some history about it. Show you it, and you'll zoom around it, so you can go around and collect these touristy things now, which is a new think. And eventually they're going to keep I. Didn't states been doing like two or three a you're? Going to take a while to get the whole, but when this games finished, all the states are in place. It'd be amazing. Set Talk. You, know what I'm saying. I agree and you'll be playing the whole time. Yeah, it's not a game I guess I'd hope of either. I pulled out like a lot. It's on the top of my steam list. Play at the most like. You list in in terms of what you play games, and it's always at top of the list so as American trucks in Idaho Dale sees like thirteen dollars. The main game you can pick the seems very reasonable for as much as you can get out of it. Yeah on the main game. Let the base game. You can pick it up on. Steam sells for five dollars law the time. Even when steam cells on I've seen it for five dollars. So you pick up the base game that comes two of the states, and then you by the states for about the team pace, but like I say when you get a new stay. It just feels like a whole new thing. You'd go this whole place. Can explo- so you like the game and there are small team who make the game? Supporting it. So that America's Dick as American trucks in the IDAHO DLC and the other game I've been playing on the playstation. It's a triple a game this one. Far Away from like am small Indie game lead up, and that's ghost of to Shema. Right. But. It's A. Very similar to the assassin's creed games. It's not by these. People. But you can sell it borrows from now and it's. Futile Japan, which have never played in a game and I, really like summarize. Yeah, you're really into. That must world when you got to? Yes, I like the. You know summarize movies. You know the Kurosawa movies, for instance. They like seven summer. Westerns but Japanese Weston's I mean the if you watch like A. An. American Western. They've got the same vite to them. Just a different period of time. A Spaghetti Western that that was. feudals mall based on Italian Westerns but weren't those based on the Samurai, yeah, it was a mix of light mixing the to John Lewis Together go. So usually if you well yeah, so this takes place in the seventeen hundreds, and now it's not seventeen hundred way before that. It was when the Shema Island. Ashim island if you say correctly. was invaded by the Mongols which Gino Win. That wasn't time I. don't it's very long ago. Anyway and your guy. You plas- jin. Hee Hee is that when the island is a Japanese guy? When the island invaded, he's one of the summarizing fights on the beach they get. Murdered basically by the Mongols you've got no say the summer. I have a big code about the like you know we. We fight like men. We look you in the eye. When not cowards stop you in the by the Mongo's? Don't give just kill everybody like whatever. So. All get mustard at the beginning. You survive. Gets kidnapped by them and I've only played the first few hours, but what's happening to the moment as me as Jin? I am trying to get to the place where my uncle is where they've got him captive to rescue him. But it's not simply to be. Journey doesn't seem because every time I get to a place the like well. You could go and get him, but you probably get killed, so you need the people so we. There's a person over that you. Can you know it's that kind of thing? I'm trying to get together a group of people to go and take the sky out. It's summarize is gorgeous. The it's an open world game like an assessment can go anywhere you. Talk to people you know. Ride your halls. Around collecting flowers. What else can you can upgrade your Catanha? which is you sold you can. Get New costumes that give you different abilities. If you like sessions, creed and assassin's creed. It boggles the for me that they've never done summer I of feudal Japan Tall, because seems like a really obvious historical thing to do because interesting visuals. These guys took a bunch of the guys who made infamous. They beat them to basically and just made. Very similar to an assassin's creed. I'm discovered this out there. I'm reading a little on the the WIKKI. About, niche Mongolia the Mongols as described Mongol. Empire Center from like. I mean we're going back here as far as the eleventh century as loan. Up to. The border of Mongolia wasn't established. It looks like I could be reading quickly, but until like the middle of the nineteenth century really so like Gingas Kahn. You know he was. is in. This game is a bit of a twist here. The big buddy of this game. is a nephew of Genghis camp. Okay, because he was around in. Eleven fifty five to looks like twelve twenty seven does sounds about right. If you look like one of the main things of that era was the taking of Sushi Maryland. So whenever that takes, place is how this game starts, so I bet it is the eleventh century. is the seventeen hundreds. No is the eleventh century. How many years is that? Thousands of you living nine hundred years thousand years ago, nine Hundred Years Right it's twenty twenty. So yeah, it's a long time ago and yet. No I'm wrong. Thousands of years. No eleven hundred would be nine hundred years, yes. Thousands of years eleven hundred thousand years is what man? Close, nine hundred years. So it's in. Anyone's listening to US thinking really really it hits. That's fine. It's historical. You can judge for math we don't care. This movie in this game is historical and based on real battles. Do you like it the way you like assassins creed? Really feels like I'm playing. Creed. Okay I mean it's really high level. Looks in might even look better than substance creed. Is Amazing I. Love I love something in this generation of Console Games. They've really figured out to render grass. You know what I'm saying. Yes, light use scan dabbled sunlight, yes, and like some come in between trees and. And you know we just played last of two and the grass was amazing in that one too right when you hiding in the grass, it's like every blade of grass is rendered. It's not just like A. Block. Is like blades of grass that is whipped through. This is the same. Because, it's feudal Japan and his cherry blossom trees everywhere. Colorful. It looks different to other things. It's not grim and grey looking. It's like just very pretty so. I'd recommend it goes to. Cheema is a PS four exclusive. So you have a phone visually, but very good. So, what's for dinner? Said Oh. What do you want and I want to Ben I want an impossible up because we have an for about two weeks, and now because went last week. And what did they say? We're out and they tried to call the other Burger. King in our town, and no one answered the phone so. They're just getting so swamped with calls about the impossible lauber not shows for hellofresh, but you want to mention about hellofresh. We're not chill no. It's awesome. We're not I mean. Yeah I was curious. This week went out because I I mean I, love cooking. We both love cooking and we like different things. The reason we're telling you what we are eating is because we're vegetarian and people seem to think that vegetarian goes in. There's like a box that describes a human being who also is vegetarian. All these things go with like health nut, and all that kind of stuff. Environmentalists and anti meat eating Vegan. It's not any of that I mean. We're anti animal cruelty. Don't give. Your I'm talking for both of us. I'm doing that thing. But really we just don't eat the meat part. We don't go ahead and we do dairy. We do eggs. There's don't eat meat. We haven't for now eleven years as you pointed out how long it had been. And so we like the fast food, but hellofresh has vegetarian options. And seriously when I went and I was like okay I, did the math data sale? We get twenty dollars off each week for four weeks, and that came out to less money than we spend on food each week. You know for the day particularly on days when I get off work at seven PM and I just go get takeout because it's seven. PM I don't WanNa. Cook right so added all that up, and I was like. Oh Yeah, and then we did the first one which was the pasta mushroom pasta thing. Oh my God. It was insanely delicious and to be honest. They missed one ingredient. We immediately contacted them and they gave us. Twelve dollars off eleven ninety five off for the up my next box. Right, which is fine. That's cool. We still got that meal. It was totally fine without it, and then we had like. Those tacos with chickpeas. Oh my God, that was so good. Let me give you one cooking hint if you don't know what already cut below bit of onion, put it in a bowl, put in white wine, vinegar or Muslim vinegar. Whatever with a little bit of sugar and a pinch of salt and pepper or some herbs, but recipe was just a little bit of sugar and vinegar, and that's it. Leave it in there while you cook the rest of this stuff and then drain off the vinegar that little bit of pickled onion, quick pickle. What do you think that does to the whole thing? And it's literally just little bits of it in each bite. It changes it so much. It's insanely delicious referred dish. was that was the rice goal that you prepared with the fried egg on top that was that was incredible to the ball. It was rice with Ginger in. It was fried Zucchini. Mushrooms. Carrots carrots, but like carrots stone like strips like A. What would you say? This is the peeler to make strips strips, and then a fried egg on top of this bowl full of that, and then a sauce and Saracho Chessel Saltzman. Can only saw. Sesame oil sugar and Saracho? Saracho and then. What you call him Schultz that you the pickle on over the top, and it was just three equity right now, getting it totally substantial, we're both I mean I like a high high volume of food, but it's always totally enough i. mean it's just really good again. We're not selling it to you. I don't care if you ever try it and you might be anti logging showed. No, there's no. I just got it right now. They have this thing. Before, this is just we've resigned up so me on. We enjoyed it last time to right I. Mean we probably had it three times? I think you got it the time, and then we get it again. But then why it's time, it'll go for four weeks, so is it normally sixty dollars fall dollars per week for our to for three different meals, two servings per meal. Right of the moment is a discount for faulty Dulles book correct, so that'd be ten dollars per person per day by three days now again. We fast food so fast food. You might spend seven dollars per person per day. Yeah, it depends on where you're going usually around seven. Or something. It goes up a little bit, but. So now. This is even less than that, and so I'm. I'm happy with that plus there's. No, they deliver it. Everything's in there, except for that one thing and when you have a problem, they fix it. Fix It. I'm happy with that. So why is your advice? An advice is like not really advice as always I. I missed the mark on the advice part of this. But. You know what if the entire human population when people are born into every culture everywhere every place, every tribe, every city, every rural town, every religion, every political system everywhere, every single human was taught that. The set of the same things and I mustn't make everybody's saying. Keep all the cultures and stuff, but like a basic foundation of. That causing pain to someone else is. Like you don't want pain to be caused to be put on you. So. Don't do it to other people. That's it you don't want your mother feel pain. You don't want your best friend to feel pain. You want yourself to feel pain. You don't want your dog to feel pain, so don't cause pain to someone or something else now. People will say that impossible. Because every there will always be people who want to cause pain, and that's just idealistic I agree with that. But just what if? If that was the fundamental bottom line. For you to have something taking it away from someone else or doing something that pushes someone down. And destroy part of their life in order for you to have something that you want. Not to survive that you want. You have to also consider that. Why is that okay or is that okay? Coups are another way to find to get in this world. What we all want and need without crushing someone down without harming or destroying someone else or someone, else's opportunities or chances are rights, or whatever like if a thousand generations from now from this moment into the future humans that was just the premise of all cultures with no, no I'm not a religious person, so don't be offended when I say this, but no, there's no texts to tell you this. There's no bullshit stories or LEGENDS OR MYTHS? It just is taught to you from the moment. You're born the instant you're born. Instead of like, if you punch somebody in the face and someone laughs and go, Gosh, he's just a boy boys. Our boys right so that that's one of those things that doesn't reinforce the idea that no, no, no, no, let's just not hurt someone right? Let's find another way. What if that? was even a possible thought. To at least a minority of people in all the cultures of all the world for the next hundred and fifty two thousand years. All the people you know some people I think it will be born. With. I just think some people are hardwired to not connect or have A. Something is not there the way that you went. I might see or absorb. Around us. You know what I mean. There could be something wrong. Or something that's different that they don't grasp. The consequence of punching someone, the face or that pain doesn't register with them the same way or something like that right that has to be accounted for their have. They're going to be pockets of humans who don't give a shit they'll take. Anything may want. They'll steal anything. They'll destroy anything because it's a dog. Eat Dog world, and that's just the way it is okay I. Get it. You think they'll always be people like that. But what if there wasn't you know? What if smacking your kids wasn't the way to get them? To basically do exactly what you want or to enforce something in them or to get them to fear running in the road, or whatever with that wasn't the way. In. That didn't carry on through other things i. just think what what if that one simple concept were? For humans just be I'd like to be around thousand years to see. If that was even possible, you will not be. You'll be brown bread. Your. I'll be w tree or something by that I will have absorbed into the atmosphere and into the dust. That will be that I will no longer exist as me. That's cool. That's cool. I can deal with that all right so. I'll not happy note. Let's get out of and let's you can catch us on twitter. FACEBOOK DOT COM is our website. You can click on the word podcast on that site. Followers on a podcast APPs Google play. 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104 - Invisible marketing  with Jeff Lotman

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104 - Invisible marketing with Jeff Lotman

"We represent hostess, which makes twinkies. One of the great foods that are out there, and I'm really well known in the cake that's where you see against the competition. But how cool is it that you can then all of a sudden find them in the cereal aisle or in the baking I'll. So from a from the brand owner standpoint, it allows their brand. I eat twinkies to be seen by more customers, more places, and then more importantly to be seen whether competition is. Great Gun and welcome to the future podcast. Today's guest is the founder and CEO of Brand Licensing Agency global icons. Now, you may be asking yourself what exactly is that? And Russ assured you're not alone as he puts it they operate in an incredibly misunderstood field that no one knows about except we see every day. Remember Flintstones, vitamins. You. Don't think hanna-barbera actually created those do. Yeah totally neither did I. In, this episode he and Chris Talk About the world of invisible marketing pairing brands with products that you wouldn't think necessarily go together. BMW Strollers Porsches Sunglasses. Forever Twenty One and the US Postal Service. It is a super interesting field that I had no idea existed but after hearing about it seems so obvious and brilliant. Please, enjoy our conversation with Jeff Lyman. Okay. So my my audience might be familiar with this idea. It's called a mash up it's when to artists or maybe through a DJ or mixer puts things together two genres that don't belong like rap and country The most famous examples I can think of as an artist whose name is danger mouse he took Jay z's black album and the Beatles white album and put them together and created magic between I. I think if I understand what you do correctly jeff that it's kind of like what you do you take two things that we love and you smash them together and it's just wonderful thing and most. Of US are completely oblivious to this happening you write about this in your book called invisible marketing now do I have this Jeff? No I think that's a really interesting way of looking at it and I've never ended describe like that. But I think you're right. I mean that's exactly what we do. We really put a manufacturer together with the brand usually have someone that wants to create a product and he's trying to break into the market and they're trying to figure out the best way of doing it, and of course, they could call it jeff or they call it Lamborghini including the their name WanNa, compare to my name what goes up dramatically. Okay. So this is fascinating because this is a world that we all kind of are somewhat subconsciously aware but until we learn about what Jeff does, then it becomes very clear what's happening. So Jeff for people who don't know who you are, can you introduce yourself and let let us all know kind of what it is that you do. Short. So my name is Jeff Lottman. I'm the CEO Global Icons, which is a company that I started almost twenty years ago and were a brand licensing agency and we work in a field that is incredibly misunderstood and no one knows about it. It's really crazy when you. When you tell people what you do, you only have to give them an example for them to understand it because otherwise they won't get. It's very frustrating at times apart parts. Well, it's interesting because I have imagined that you probably don't have as much competition because not that many people understand what it is is that true or now? It's also really s could feel there's not really many people that work in the brand licensing company in our world probably are. Ten fifteen agencies is probably no more than four or five or six of any real size. It's a great business i. mean it's been around really got in. Thirty years ago when really hit his stride compared to entertainment licensing like you know, Mickey Mouse on t shirts have been around. Since the early twenties. Right, so I guess a lot of people don't understand is like a company like Disney makes a lot of their money, maybe most of it through merchandising and licensing and building products based on entertainment Ip, and some some reference or some examples that you gave on different podcasts that are heard you talk about, which will help you understand truly what we're talking about is flintstones vitamins. The flintstones hanna-barbera did not make those vitamins the BMW stroller a BMW. BMW. Did Not make that stroller and then one that I can think of I think is Porsche Sunglasses? Maybe they did make it but it's licensing. Right. So it's a licensing, the brand equity that somebody has built up and moving into different product categories right. Exactly. I also called rarified air because let's face it. What is a brand a brand by you buying something and says a lot about how you feel you WanNa feel. So when you're going to buy apple the great, let's face it apple has built a business not about making the best computers but really telling people that when you use their computers, you're more creative you're more clever. You're you're on. Tran-. You're on edge or Microsoft, is always about we're GONNA make the best computers in our numbers in our ram is this and this and Mac never really sold that I mean they talk about benefits but it's really more about what it does for you and how it releases your freedom and because of that people look at it very differently and that's why there's so much passion for apple compared to Microsoft. now where you come into plays. Maybe help you understand. This is like there's I'm GonNa, imagine a manufacturer somewhere that wants to attach themselves to particular brand. That's very popular is that where you step in and help brokered the deal exactly right or a lot of times in the case of we represent hostess, which makes twinkies. One of the crews are out there and and they're really well known. Trial let's see against the competition but how cool is it that you can then all of a sudden find them in the cereal or in the baking I'll. So from from the brand owner standpoint, it allows their brand I eat twinkies to be seen by more customers and more places, and then more importantly to be seen whether competition is so when they're trying to sell against, you know call. Tasty cakes. They're not gonNA, find tasty kicks in the while. So there's the other benefit there too. Right. So that's that's like brand extension in kind of deepening the relationship with the customer in areas that they're not looking. So I have a bunch of actions here from a business point of view. Okay. So you represent hostess and you broker a deal. So somebody else who's GonNa make the serial license license the intellectual property from hostess How much control input do they have over the end product? In every contract the actual brand owner, the licensor has tremendous control from the packaging to the product to the testing to every even distribution channels. You can't necessarily talk about price because then again, issues of monopoly but you can't talk about that. I only wanted sold in premium retail or it can't be sold into dollar store channel. So a lot of channels are distribution channels are set by different levels like that but you have complete control of every single aspect, and if you're not happy with it the and go for sale. I see. So they're involved in in like the way it tastes the way it looks and everything and whoever's licensing this has to get approved by the licensor sure and in some cases like when we did generators for Ford, the head of pay for outside testing agencies to prove that it met certain safety criteria because let's face it you can't expert everything. So when you're dealing with products that are you know? A little bit more mechanical. It's important to have other people that are going to be testing it to make short works. The last thing you WanNa do is seven generator that when it comes time when your power's out, it doesn't work in. It's up the Ford name what. Is really not good for the brand. Right, and I imagine sometimes this probably does happen right Well things are going to break them in yeah. Fourtou breakthrough sometimes but Michael, you want to make sure that's that is really the rarity and not the the norm. Okay. So you already pointed out one advantage, which is I mean spaces that normally people don't think about me and it's building strengthened my brand. That's obvious. Okay. Now, number two. Is The licensor making money off this. Almost definitely and honestly the the bigger the company is the less that money truly matters because I think the other benefits are more important because. You. Know what's really amazing. If you think about advertising, you think about TV think about radio and you took him but pr these are all different methods that brands tried to get you to try their product and they're all have benefits in all challenging but there's so many people doing it. But the cool thing about what we do in licensing is we actually create a product and that's a product that you can then take home you can eat you can wear and the case was story could put your kid in it. And it allows you to build a very deep relationship because someone has taken this in their own and a t-shirt that they're wearing proudly like us a brand ambassador and you can't do that with any other form of advertising, and this is the part. That's so cool. When that it is so frustrating for my standpoint, because most people don't get it understand that this is like the greatest thing in the world and you get paid for it, it's not like you're writing a hundred million dollars to an advertising agency were writing checks to the brands So, can you tell me like just broadly speaking how these deals are structured like what like if I have a brand and and I'm hearing this later on anything I need to start working with Jeff and global icons How much what did he deals look like? Short. Well, let's talk about this in a couple of different areas. So franken the licensor standpoint if you're manufacturer and you wanted to use a brand on a t shirt. Different categories have different royalty rates and they usually have to do with the amount of margin that the product actually can carry. So McKay of food, the margins food are always really tight. So the royalty rate, the rate of which you pay the brand owner for the right to use their brand is also less. So you could be spending three to five percent of wholesale sales. Let's say you had an item that was selling for dollar. You Lilly be paying three to five cents on the dollar back to the brand owner for the right to use their packaging were logo or name or ingredient in your product. That's not a lot of money. No it really isn't but understand when you start, adding it up and Utah Selling. One. Hundred thousand units or you million dollars a wholesaler two, million dollars ten million dollars wholesale the numbers become pretty meaningful. So in food, you're saying the margins are pretty tight. Where's an area where the margins are much bigger? Apparel tends to be larger margins urine intended twelve percent. Obviously, if you have a brand that is like going absolutely nuts more entertainment property, let's say like Lady Gaga, you obviously get much more but you know in the case of most brands that we represent you normally can get between. Eight to ten percent royalty rate on a two shirts off your son at t shirt for twenty dollars retail, which is ten dollars wholesale. You're making call it. You know a dollar shirt in rural. Okay. Great and in your experience. How how how much? How do you determine which brands are worth pursuing in terms of the yeah I think you've got something and we can help you find a manufacturing partner. You know there's an old expression that fortune follows same and it's really true. A lot of times people come to us through like well, a really well known in. You know in southern California arm really well known and Houston and it's true. There are certain brands that you actually can have the ability to expand an original market but it really needs to be at least known in a a bigger wider area and have some pretty significant awareness to really do anything that's out there. Otherwise, it becomes very hard and you end up really just giving your brand new way almost for nothing. She really desperate to get someone else in new deal and says to Orly, honestly shouldn't be doing it Can you tell me one of the most creative things you have to put together that had one of these challenges where we believe what you have is good. But now we have to find the right manufacturer to make this work. Sure. We were hired many years ago by a company called Jordan Jordan is a very large. Company that owns a ton of brands everybody from. All carpet which the brand that I worked with. To. Home. Big Camping brand. But Anyway, the IT's incredibly large company they even get involved in skis and so on and so forth. But they came to us because crock pints been around for a long time and because of it is sold in the electrical electrical is one of the most were Niles. There are because let's face it. You're with toasters microwaves, and how often you nestle go buy new microwave or a new toaster it's not that often but when you want it obviously you gotta be there. So that's why this is always there but you never see a lot of people in that jail because unless it's less this time link for wedding gifts, you're buying cuisinart says a lot of people that I also to get someone to think about your brand is really hard and then when you're there, there's a lot of other competition that selling against you. So crock pot to find a way to break out of that competition and as we looked at it, we really felt that let's face it. Is a slow cooker and allows you to make product for longer periods of time and a craze flavor profile or what if we can make that process easier for the consumer what we can give you some spices that would work great for what do we can give you ingredients that you put in your pocket these kind of products that we launched that have done very well that are still selling and it was a real challenge because now all of a sudden. You're taking the Crock Pot and occasionally it was actually being sold in an end cap in the food I'll. And again, the beauty is that there is obviously no they're slow cookers that are being sold opposite that product in that aisle but also it was just a great way for someone to see the brand and have a chance to experience. as a great example, very kind of out of the box thinking were you taking something that's non consumable turning new consumable? Okay. So I want WanNa. Circle back to something because if you listen and and read the writings of thought leaders in the marketing advertising space, they're going to warn you against something like this and I would love for you to talk about this, which is brand dilution where you try to be too many things to many people and you start to lose the core of who you are. Okay. So the example Egypt, we talked about earlier the podcast series that BMW ultimate driving machine. At least that was tagline while it's the driver's car look if you want to get a luxurious car, get get a Mercedes. But if you really love the thrill of driving want to feel connected to the road by BMW and then an example that we're talk about in terms of licensing the BMW name to a Stroller Ni- get I guess you push your kid around. But at what point is it get into brand Lucien territory. While I think pollution is a realistic issue and I think the idea is that it's important that you can't do too many things that you really have to understand who the customer you're trying to target or more specifically who's the customer you don't have that you're a target which is the other opportunity to do at licensing. But in the case of BMW Stroller, what was interesting is the Stroller Company, which is McLaren who actually took the rights. Is. A. Very High End Store Company and they do a lot of collaborations and for them. What they saw was an opportunity is that ninety percent strollers by women were probably eighty percent twenty percent from it. So they really felt that BMW being more very strong excuses a male brand when really put itself in there in the mail space and have a chance to sell more stores men and what normally would have been a one-season deal. They ended up doing it for three years and doing a couple of different models even doing a more advanced model like an inversion which is more expensive and it did really great because men thought it was cool by the stroller unemployed Kenema BMW stroller. So. It was a great success for everybody for BMW on. McLaren and of course, for us as the agent that makes the money to. So where where do you see this go wrong if if a brand or manufacturer wanted to get into certain space with a brand and you just kind of know you know I just I'm not I don't think that's a good move for your brand like how do you become a good steward of the brand and say look there's money on the table but I don't I don't think this is it. Well I, think those are various different questions. I mean there's a lot of brands make mistakes and it makes you wonder who's the person actually said, yes to it but I think that you have to really understand your brand and again who the customer is and you've got to really be careful they don't try to be too many things to many people that the tighter you are the more successful is going to be. Effective brand licensing isn't doing a lot of deals. It's just doing the right deals. So the right customers and the right categories. Okay Great. So like I in terms of like being a student marketing, this is often something that is talked about like mini Cooper Kim comes comes back to America is just really fun sporty car it's diminutive in its size and I guess maybe through pressure of the American buying appetite. Make bigger and bigger cars. So mini is not so many anymore it's Maxxie now and Do you think in that case, they've lost a little bit of that's even within the internal brand not even licensing at this point. Do you have a take on something like that? You know I think that's really perceptive you and I. DO Agree I think they probably pushed a little bit far I think what which lead. Cool but many. Many and that was who they were and. And they fought at times. It's funny because there were a lot of deals that we had which they didn't want to do because they felt that because people wanna do many many items of course, I think next. They never want to do because they thought that really hit too hard on the word many were the one they did understand that what many was about was really as they described as a twinkle in the eye that products needed to have a sense of humor to it. Something that really was unique like we did these really cool because we represented many because they're also by BMW we did. These speakers that were in the shape of side you mirror and they were super cool and they still sell them. Any looks just like Siberia. Mirror, but it's a speaker. So that kind of stuff that really fit well with that brand because it is kind of Oh. That's Kinda. Fun kind of advocacy that they really were looking for like they did refrigerators with that great brand smae in many colors again. It looked like almost like the roof of the mini that it was a refrigerator. It was just fun and that's the one thing that they really understood and they wanted to make sure that things were like that. You almost smiled when you saw. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Even you describing that makes total sense and I have not seen a Minnie's meg refrigerator but smeg, a British brand minis a British brand, right? That's the heritage. Yes and you put those two together and they're small refrigerators and they have a very distinctive kind of around look to them. Yeah they are. So that makes a lot of sense. Okay. So here's something I saw on your site. And we'll talk about your side in a little bit. But that I thought this is really dope like when when I saw this thing with forever twenty one and the collaboration here's just bananas to me. But when I see it, it's like God that's really smart with. Like priority mail fashion. That is totally out of the box and I love seeing that because I'm a guy who likes graphics and topography and labels in utility in design and putting those two together was just so cool to see you tell me how that deal came together and it did was it a hit or what happened while it was, but I'll tell you it almost didn't happen because the post office was. Obviously, very nervous because this is clearly a bit of a left turn for them and was also you know as you saw, some of the stuff was the edgy some of the tube shirks and all that were a little bit on the edgy side had initially even though it was approved by the small work group that does stuff at the post office some of the people above were like, ooh. Wasn't really comfortable with it but then what's even more interesting because we heard about this complaints is about a month or so later It all changed and what happens is the kids were like telling their mother and father Oh my God. That's so cool. You guys are cool. That's really great proctor elect that in all of a sudden they saw understood what we were trying to accomplish is that because the post office wanted Utha fi and make their brand relevant to the youth because let's face it. I have a seventeen year old daughter. They don't use a stamp they never sent something in the mail Minolta's never. Had, you try to make that experience fun and friendly and that's what the Golan's and that's where we try to look at what could have done that and Farber Twenty one was very excited about the idea and. It worked great and then we even did a second you know with. One of these. Limited? Edition Brands Like uncommon uncommon commoner and citizen or something anyway. same thing it was they really took the same. They took the brain also and thought it was a very unique opportunity. And it's great because it makes us more cool and let's face it. You wouldn't call the post office. Cool normally. Right. So can you tell me I mean is there like I don't want to imagine that there's this wonderful back story about how this even began in the first place because it's such an unusual mash up between two companies or two brands Is there some crazy story that goes with this? I'm not really I. Mean It really was the fact that they gave us a brief that they're like, how can you help us overcome this? That exists that is just sort of a lack of awareness and what can you do that? Really target that and we started trying to figure out what products would really worthwhile and if you think about it, if you're going after the youth when the bus ballistic after. USA. Fashion because that's where A. Shopping plan the liked to be things that are different Wolf GonNa be in fashion you wanna be something a little edgy if you're GONNA go after that customer, and then once you define that it really narrows it down what are the retailers that really would make sense And from there was hoping that one would say, yes and we were excited because honestly we didn't WanNa work I mean, let's face it. It's a bit of you know it's hard to get that over the line, but forever twenty one they loved it. They loved the fact that no one had ever done this before the post office that they truly were going to be unique. They thought the graphics as you talked about as I do there such, they're so cool their sonic they've been around, you know it immediately and so far away when you have that kind of power of a logo, it's really wonderful. So they love the Mac, they had the kind of ICONOGRAPHY to really work with and they did a great job. They really nail it when we first saw it, we're like. They're going to approve this stuff. It was a little edgy, but it was great and then sold out i. mean they were thrilled. We were happy. Wow. Okay. So I don't know I. Think I. IF I remember your in Brentwood right you have an office here but you have multiple offices throughout the world, right? Yes. Okay. So I I, just thinking like there's an episode from entourage somewhere because you're you're the big man at the top you gang and there's this gigantic or room and you call your team in is. So here's what we have. USPS. Wants to do some Edgy Fund be relevant young people would have we got, and then your agents go run around the come back into pitch a bunch of ideas you and you're like, that's the winner. It's dangerous. It's risky. Let's do that. Am I am I exaggerating what happens? Wish I. Wish it was cool. But. You could sell it you can sell, it could sell it. You did a great job and I could've played along but the reality is that when we get a brand normally what happens in the process from our side is that we usually have to pitch clients to one hire us. So in that process will come to them with some ideas. you think are worthwhile. So we do some initial brainstorming. Now mind you when we first pitched the post office we were not pitching Pero, we pitched taking some. We talked about up cycling some of products. They did a lot of things with the old male bags and other things that they had an old mailboxes and we've done a lot of things in the cool up cycling. We talked about using the great stamp art, all the stuff that would make sense but this was not on the list. But then normally once we get a client and then explain to us what they're looking for. Then we go back and do the brainstorming, and then we come to them and we always come up with some things that are totally loony and they would never get done because I always find you gotta go that far out to try to make sure you're not missing something and Umana. Coming up with something that you don't think there's a crate a guy called Ed Bono and he wrote a lateral thinking. And basically taking despair at items and squishing them together sort of restarted the beginning of the conversation and how you with something. Really Cool. And that was what his his whole premise is a couple of great books written on it, and at one point he even sold this really great ball that you would spin around. That had maybe thirty thousand individual words and the idea was the took these two words that really didn't connect. How do you connect and it causes your brain to think in that SORTA away. But that's the kind of stuff we try to do. We really try to find things that are that are unique and interesting but the end the day it still has to connect with the customer. In this case, we wanted to connect with youth to the brand wasn't like we're going after something. So different that was totally disconnected and see some sometimes. One point. ZIPPO lighters who I love, and we've done a lot of business with them. They actually did ZIPPO perfume. And I'm like. Okay have. Is. Fuel. Is I spoke to them. Really people and they're like, no in Europe it didn't really well for some reason, it really connected with that. You the didn't obviously smell like perfume, but it was more like cruel and interesting because what people don't really think about Zippo, it's the sound it's that class and that's why they always use it in movies because you know that click means somebody's light and it's become. So ingrained in our head and I think the sound is patented as a matter of fact, because it is so unique that it's so much a part of their brand and who they are. So they've done a lot of other great licensing but that was one that didn't work and then sometimes. Things just don't work because it's to the market as. The brains disconnected like give me an example we represented door flame they make the the logs that are made out of different materials that the fireplace. And I'm always says don't cook them and before we got hired by them, they went ahead and they did a deal for Sterno Strana was liquid that you you light you put under a chafing dish if you're party to keep things off and stern. Oh, Brandon they are Kleenex the definitive everyone knows what it is and someone wanted to take the rights manufacturer wanted to put door flame on liquid gel containers and sell them and they could not and you think it'd be natural because duraflame is means heat. But also means that you can't Cook on Icee and consumers had a hard time making the leap of even though you never touching the food, it's underneath tanner. Not like your cooking directly and I like I'm posting a marshmallow on the camp because you can't do that with sterner either you you kill yourself, it's a liquid gel for some reason people really had a hard time making that connection or disconnection of that. It was Oh Katie on food and it didn't work now contrary on the other side when we presented them, we actually put them. In electric heaters and that was a huge success because it meant he in your room where you couldn't necessarily have a fireplace and that is still doing incredibly well, and that's an example of a company as you started early on who was a manufacturer who was looking for a great bran who was the private label guy meaning that at target or Walmart or one of the above where Costco? They. Would be the guy making it for their brand. In the case of you know Costco could be the Kirkland Bram right and you wouldn't know who's making it, and the problem is when you're the private-label guy is that if I came in and if I was selling a heater and you're selling at sixteen dollar wholesale oncoming in at the same eater at fifteen dollars and fifty cents. The odds are high. You'RE GONNA get thrown out because these guys really especially Walmart really tight margin and they got to be competitive, and if someone really has the exact same product for less if you can't fix it, you're GONNA lose it. So the problem is you don't want to be in that position because you can be tossed out and the way you protect that position for manufacturer standpoint. Of course, to have a brand because we talked about all the benefits for licensor but from the LICENSEE, it gives the ability to build something that you own. That is defensible that keeps other people away. So in the case of the Heater Company and the company was doing. Call it. Low eight figures. I, ruined WANNA get into specifics when we first met them, and that thing is just blown up it's been so successful and it's been going on for about eight or nine years and they're doing really high in the figures I. Mean They really really done great and they're thrilled because what was supposed to be twenty percent of their business has become almost eighty percent of their business with this whole line of door flame electric heaters, and you now see them everywhere and it was example really perfect brand extension where that work where the GEL liquid jellison. Ten for a quick break we'll be right back with more from Jeff Levine. If you're a small business owner. This is for for you because running a business is just plain hard, sometimes enlisted duelists employees to take care of and your ever-present bottom line. 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Welcome back to our conversation with. Jeff London. Okay there's a bunch of things that you're talking about here for all our brand and design enthusiasts that I have to go back and kind of pick apart and highlight a little bit for everybody to understand here. So duraflame has done a wonderful job of communicating who they are. They make these logs right to to warm your your your home or your apartment, but they warn you against the May be the it's toxic of you try to cook with it like an open flame you should not treat it like a regular laws. Such a good. Yes. So they've done such a good job of making sure the consumer doesn't use it in inappropriate ways and gets sick heaven forbid or die, and they own the category. They are the category door in that when you think of a log that you're GONNA by. Design like that. You know that's what you're thinking. They own the on the I can't even. Yeah. I can't even think of like who's number two it doesn't register my brain. So when they tried to do something that was related to cooking, it was one of those mis alignments and even though technically it's fine, it's just the the message is so clear and that's the strength of a brand. So you help them to find something that was a more natural fit like eating home warm heating that's right and you did that deal. So that's fantastic. And that kind of brand extension really strengthens the brand. So the message is clear again, it's it's to keep you warm not to eat but to keep you warm and for the manufacturer, it gave them something that was much harder for them to be tossed out of a retailer. Yes because when you come in and you're saying no names and all of a sudden, you're single door flame heating. Coal. I'll take the door flynn electric and I'll put it in my house and because of it, they are able to build that kind of awareness and SORTA protected them against other people trying to come in and take the market away where beat them on price and you can charge a premium because you're like going to pay a dollar more two dollars more for door flame because it's better now mind you it better be better as we talked about earlier. With generator and it was they did a great job and they were really in that space they knew that this so so better can be defining a lot of different ways right? Like better to be like it has a better function or it has better design in the case of the BMW stroller like the leather from the BMW factory, the badging certain things that communicate to the end customer like, yeah BMW made a stall. That's what it would look like one hundred percent of even better looking thinking about in coal design. Design is so important music about again back to you know. Microsoft and Apple Music, about the IPAD and the IPHONE and how well they've done. With great design sure it's great functionality, but it's also super cool. I mean look I can't wait for the iphone twelve and I had bought every single one of those day they cannot I hate to admit it I'm in line there. He will. Will have a strong tribe what can I say I'm an apple person myself too. But okay. So I want to get back to this thing where you said all right. We WanNa work with in the case of the the post office we have to come and we have to pitch them. Ideas are going to work for them and you said you come in and you also find where the edge is. Knowledge just from a creative point of view. But just like now, we've explored the spectrum here. In our job, right. So I'm just curious what these pitches or presentations look like. Are you using designers to mock things up to Kinda fill in the imagination gap. It really could few. Yes we do. We have a we have an art department internally because we find that it's easier. When you show an idea versus to say it mean look we're very visual people we learn visually It's just easier and we don't. We may come up with like. Eight or ten or even fifteen different categories that we think could make sense of your brand and mind you we've been say you shouldn't do them all at once but you could look at them as these ones make sense first, and then if those are successful, you could do those. But we definitely think the ones that we think are the most coolest we tend to mock up and. Nowadays. My God it's so easy with Photoshop and so on and so forth. You know. But yes, it's a big part of what we do we do. We do a lot of presentations, a lot of mockups, and of course we have our case studies showing what we've done with brands, adding categories, success stories showing what you know what's occurred because these things take time. This is a very the worst thing about our business. It's takes a long time. It's eighteen to twenty four months minimum from the time you sign. A contract until stuff gets on shelf because they gotta make prototype, it's gotta be afraid the packaging has to be approved. It's gotTa be sold science be made in China it's got to get on a boat. So all these things take time. So the time you sign a deal to the time, it gets shelf it takes a law that's why it's so important. To find the right partner like in the case again, this heater guy here's a guy that was proven. He was selling heaters. He knew what he was doing. He's been in business for a while. You knew that he had the finances to really go ahead and support it. That's kind of partner that you really want someone that can invest in your brain that s stability and sometimes you get it wrong I mean we've. We've done analysis. We always have people fill out a business plan and talks about their banking references. Sometimes, people go to business anyway especially, look at what's going on right now would different situation. It's important to really find the right partner because those guys are going to really break break their home for you and it's important Gals breakthrough humphry. Okay I I wanNA talk about that. But I'm just curious from your point of view do do you feel Like how important on a scale of one to ten is that visual that person's making that's going to help seal the deal you know I think it really matters I mean look even in terms of the second self again I've been doing this for a long time and we've gone through a lot of versions of. The positioning the presentation you look at how powerpoint has really changed our business and in terms of before, it used to be like the more words better how many words can cram on a page and then it became the less words the better, and then it became the biggest image better and you know it's you always have to constantly evolve your presentation and we're actually doing that again right now. It's just nonstop because look what I'm going against what are some really capable companies? The Nice thing is because we have a small business I know most the owners of those companies they're all good people they'll do good work I mean it's not like there's a lot of great work being done by my competitors to his about it that I admire and so we have to really stand up against. Because I'm a big believer, I mean obviously, there's a lot of bias because I mean the visual arts myself and I try. To emphasize people who follow me, you know what make that image right because at one image Kujat sell and you don't have to talk so much anymore if was. One. Hundred percent right. That's why you know we've spent so much time and we bought create photography and we've because that it really matters and if your deck is being left behind as it is a lot and someone didn't see it before that wasn't in the room that can be all they get to seal the deal on you and your hundred percent right is someone goes with. That's really cool. But then you also take a risk because of you mock summing up when they go. Oh my God we would never do Spaghetti and here he had this great mockup of the family eating getting with their brand. You also shot yourself in the foot S- is. And that happens sometimes too you know. But usually now we've gotten very rarely to be shot in the foot because created the wrong product but it has happened in the past Well, you know you you brought this up also about. Case, a we have ideas for the brand. And they're excited. And then you also need to vet the manufacturer because you've gotTa make sure that a solid business model in the operations in the financing in the capital's there to make it work so. You're like the matchmaker because the deal only works. If you have a great manufacturer because if they go bankrupt if their products are defective a, it hurts everybody involved, right? That's right. We're just like a talent agent for branson televisions try to get their actor job. We're trying to get a brands manufacture that wants to use their product and sometimes doesn't work. I mean our first client was elite modeling, the modeling agency that's been around forever and they had a really good program in Europe they were doing everything from hosiery to Eric says. Roost. You know make up all the things that you think that. Okay. I get it modeling make up. You know. Oser. Issues. and. We could not sell it for anything here in the United States and it just sometimes things don't work you know and I don't know why am I know the guy that runs it, and even after we left and we didn't do it he still struggled certain brands just make sense in certain branches don't connect with customers and that happens we've hired. We've been hired by people at work. Having sometimes, you've had clients that Kinley we've had a fire because they highest the do deals and they don't do deals, and then we only eat what we kill. So the deal happen, we don't get paid 'cause we had a piece of the peace right and it can be very frustrating some hard to do something and then they decide. We don't really want to do that anymore. Okay be you brought it up I. Love this. So I think you said before that the deals could be anywhere between like say three to ten percent of wholesale sales also sales. Okay and then you're making a piece of the three to ten percent or yours I have nowhere piece of the peace. Okay. So what piece of the Peace Are you making? Usually, it's about a third. Okay. The brands getting seventy percent and we're getting thirty something so far as long as it deals working, you're you're making your royalty or your percentage of that. Yes, most. Okay, that's fantastic. Because then some some see that you've planted 'cause you said the process is actually pretty lengthy between eighteen to twenty four months, which is two years you're not going to eat for two years. You planted a seed and you're GONNA wait. That's why it's very hard business to start up because it takes. So Long unless you're listening and some brands will pay you a retainer because let's face it. You doing work up for nothing for a while, but the retainer doesn't really it just helps doesn't really make the difference. The real money comes in when you really get a great program that's out there for a while that's really been selling. It produces great worlds and then things have shelf life like the forever twenty one that was meant to be two seasons and it was and it was out, they sold out the inventory everybody was happy but then it's over. So then you have this great deal it generated. Really Nice world teas and then it's gone then you gotta go find someone else to do she got replace that money. Yeah. So I imagine that urine is constant state of pitching ideas planting season watering and harvesting and you got to keep doing it because you won't know if it's a monster hit or not until two years later and you just can't wait you gotTa keep the pipe fools. Keep it going. Honestly if you like that as I do I, love it it's nonstop dealmaking. You know you have to have a lot of things. As you said, a lot of things up there because you've got to keep the we'll going in we've staff around the world offices around the world but once you get going, it's a really good. It's a great business, and again hopefully you get really clients Moran for a long time. That will you know that? Really you can build a significant business on. You know it's a great business twi. Love I. Really Love what I do. and is the deal structure in such a way like this this idea with the Post Office and Forever Twenty one sold out that. Derivative ideas you're able to participate in. If for example, he did site with forever twenty one and it sold out and they and they said, look, we really want to do a line of shoes with the post office. It still would be our deal at still our relationship. Yes. Yeah. Okay. So I am a question if it if it's all about it was popular. Why not just keep doing it You know unfortunately, a lot of these guys look at these as marketing opportunities and for them, they wanted to create a lot of excitement. It's like why do drops and what it comes supreme do so incredibly well is that they're very much about scarcity and they're about, you know the fact is only for a limited period of time there's not that many of them and tomorrow's going to be something different and and I. Like that and the case of you know for twenty one, they did this great program and then was gone like McLaren stroller. They had done everything from the Beatles yellow submarine, which is a really cute stroller and and many many others but they're all meant to be you know in and out. There in for one season then the next one comes along because it gives them something to talk about and it keeps the press and people excited. Oh my God look at this. We really should because, of course, every year people having babies, there was always a new customer right figure going help the next customer I. See I see. Okay. So they're doing these these brand collaborations as part of Buzz and Hype Marketing Right? As we keep talking about this I get real excited because I is more ideas percolating in my mind, it's like. Oh my God the reason why I love that was because exactly what it is that you do one of my favorite things is to to buy skateboards and there was this thing between I think who's girl skateboards and Kodak, which were too crazy mashups because what is Kodak film have to do with skateboarding but they used the graphics and the language of all the different film packaging and they put it on the boards and looked amazing. So as a fan of Kodak and grow skateboards and graphic design, they found this great way to come together. And there's so much that those kinds of things happen. That are truly great brands and great visuals that people try to find unique and different ways of doing that. We did it with Supreme and Lamborghini we represent Lamborghini a supreme to us and they wanted to use the Lamborghini logo and they did some really cool stuff and. The product was gonNA launch right as the shutdown was happening and they were like well now, what do we do and they tell? Our audience is strong it's going to it's going to do well an twenty six minutes the entire thing sold out I'm like and these guys have agreed thing going. They do they do they're making dishes printing money at this point? They are printing money and for that, they understand their brand they understand their customer they understand what will sell and the understand scarcity and I give them a lot of credit probably do. You mentioned Lamborghini, a couple of times. They're one of your clients, right? Yes. Do you have an exclusive relationship with your clients? we do in most cases in most cases we exclusive and then or at the very least we have exclusive categories like in the case of. Jarring and the hardest for food for button we weren't doing anything else but they specifically said, we need help we need open food. And as. I said I have before I started this company I was in the food business for eighteen years. I was a supplier to McDonald's crafts and others, and I'm. So I really have a very strong food background in manufacturing background quality in Sullen and so forth, and so it's a world I know manufacturing very well and something that we've been very successful in an it's an area that we've also really focused a lot him because there's a great business 'cause compared to other categories you can be in market very quickly as we talked about, it takes eighteen to twenty four months to get in store. In food, it's not the case because most buyers in large retailers they buy for certain seasons and they by eighteen or twenty four months out where food they're like, oh my God, those sausages are great. This is a good chance. He can make room in the supermarket pretty quickly for your product, and so you could be market in six months with a great salad dressing or in the case of twinkies cereal I mean that was a huge hit for a post twinkies tastic. Do Brand deals where it's between two brands Anada, brandon manufacturer like with Supreme in Louis Vuitton, are you brokering those kinds of deals to yeah we do Cobra Co brand deals. The usually co brand deal is done when you have a brand that's very well known. One category wants to do something that's unique in that same category but that the original brand where the new brand doesn't really play that. Well, if you look at me give me a great category like watches you know people that buying different quality watches because you know the kind of the watchmaker what they do, but you've also seen a lot of car collaborations with watches and you never see very rarely you see like. A? Lamborghini only watch or a Porsche Porsche has their watch. The most the ones that are out there are do brandon like the Bentley Bright Link which is once for a long time or Jaguar nigger Koutros or furry and I think it's you blow. All these are dual branded as you have someone who really knows watches with someone who has a really cool brand and that's one that's a really easy example for dual branding when you to brands that come together that are both strong in different areas. So in the case of watches, a does the car manufacturer get involved in the design of it or they just leave it up to the watch manufacture do their thing almost definitely I mean they they I mean, usually the watch manufacturer take the first stab at it but believe me in the car manufacturers because let's they really care about design obviously right a very much get involved. Okay. So I I. Know I have at least one more question asks you and then maybe there's some things that you WanNa talk about the up. But the one question I wanna ask you this is that you seem like you're the guy I need to get to know if I'm a manufacturer. So I'm a manufacturer listening to how how do I get in touch with you? How do you decide who you WANNA work with. Honestly we get an awful lot of like incoming emails from people saying, Hey I'm a manufacturer these t shirts I really WanNa. See if I could use you know brand or why Bram and were know pretty accessible when you can get through a website I mean it's A. It's a Jeff Dot lot many global icons dot com You know it's it's pretty easy all of us. I. Mean I'm very responsible Lincoln I see a lot of things all the time that like, oh, that's really cool and I love to find inventor brand sometimes where things that are. Not necessarily all that big but is like, super cool. There was this company that invented this technology to have toy car walk up a wall on remember this was like five or six years ago. And We represented at the time Humvee and represent them for a long time almost fifteen years and they came to us and they wanted to use Humvee you know 'cause the world's toughest vehicle as toy that lily would walk up a wall and they showed us a prototype. Year and a half before the car came out and we're like. Oh. My God. That toy really simple. It'll that car will climb a wall how cool is an and we gave a guy that was much smaller than you normally would a shot because they really had a great technology or something that is truly unique. And that thing was the hottest toy two years later at Christmas even letterman headed on a show and that whole thing just exploded you just don't know but we love to find new technology because you really want a lot of brands want to be seen as doing things that are cooling on edge and a great way of doing that is working with inventor groups that we've a great offer some Hong Kong and they try to find things. I guess you see a lot of things like that being developed especially in the tech area area and that's why it's important for office would be there So I have another question here in that. Okay. I'm not a manufacture and I'll have a brand. But. I have some ideas. Do you have space where I could do ups and pitch you ideas where either I can get paid for or get a percentage of a percentage of the percentage? You do that really it's really hard to to try to develop something from scratch developing brands or break difficult. A. Really difficult thing to do from. It takes a long time for branding at going and it's also really hard to just a pitch. An idea because people are like come to us our this great art or design. I took these cats and I put flags on their backs in. They're really cool. You really should sell it. I could do this I know that I this big following a. Three thousand followers on Instagram, right? It's tough. It's really tough. There's a lot of people out there especially in art licensing because a lot of artists crate and you say to yourself is a kind of Thomas Kincaid who now past which was the painter of light is what he's to calm. And Man, they still licensed stuff over the moon and Irish thought of Kenley that the stuff was not exactly all that appealing art standpoint but they licensed the hell out of a really didn't. Give them a lot of credit and but people like myself is every bit as good as Thomas Caterer. and. So that's a really took category especially, art licensing because there's so many people that can do beautiful art a let me rephrase the question that I don't think ask the right way. Let's say before the forever twenty one deal came together with The post office and I'm sitting around like and DIY. Up Cycling I, START PUTTING MOCKUPS, and like you know this is dope I would like to see this as a fashion line somewhere I do mock ups and then would you be open to like them calling and saying or submitting some ideas say Jeff. I got some ideas. Would would you be interested in looking at this and if it works out, can I get? So is there space for that or no? It hasn't really happened so much in the past I think that we as a company are always willing to share. So if you said to me. You know I had an opportunity for one brands and it's with the manufacturing we had known more is spoken to them. We're always willing to entertain possibly giving you a piece of art piece because again one let everybody win we haven't necessarily had someone come to wasn. Say. God I this gradient Lamborghini t shirts here's what it looks lights because the problem is I still go find a manufacturer that then wants to do that. You know it's crazy how you'd have a cool design but someone else may say, well, that's interesting but. I really don't like that. I wanted to like this then. Design now is. Becomes very challenging I say. So it's another piece of the puzzle you start to figure out at that point it's harbor could makes it harder? It's easier is easier if your friend was the guy that made eaters and he was trying to get a brand. Like right now, I'm talking to a dairy that's wants to compete in a category that's well known and they're like look we need something because no one knows who we are I mean that's a much easier thing and at times we represent manufacturers looking for brands. So we actually jump the I'll we go the other side of the table, which is what we're doing in the case of Daria we've done. Before with other manufacturers. Try to find them to get them brains make sense. Okay. So I said earlier I was asked this question and luckily because remember is so I went to the website. And have to say the website just not a lot of visuals there. It's like it's hard to kind of figure out other deals you've done, and it's kind of interesting because when I click on the the the the case studies and psych tiny little images and I I want to get excited about this. So how come the website distant show more what it is that you do? I think it does to take him and. It's interesting that if you clear big objective and wanting to see it is finding that it's not. Exciting than I. Definitely have to take a look at it and maybe it's time for a refresh on that too because. I think it does I think it shows the the case studies and I think it shows the clients that we have. It's obviously is not doing enough because you're feeling differently. Honestly I love. Great feedback on a love. You know objectively and gunners were always gotta make it better because we got to continue to grow our business right because when when I saw on the landing page the forever twenty one I need to see more of this like what is this all look like what's the whole lineup and I tried to dig deeper and maybe I couldn't figure out the site but I just couldn't find more images and the images that found were smaller than the ones on the landing page. Or maybe somehow I screwed that up Jeff. I need to dig into I know what you mean in terms of the front we always put just some really cool stuff that are on top in the case of like the Ferber Twenty, one in the post office in like best. Way Now. Of course, I'm digging into it as talking and. How is your? Memory of your site a lining up with what I'm just saying I'm just curious. It's It's not lining up exactly but I do what you're saying I think if you were to click into the categories and clients and maybe we got to bring it up a little bit better. You can see a lot of the different products who've done. There's like so many different examples of no opio. And sneakers and Hanson know for the different brands and different categories and I think in all fairness like in the food is shows are examples, food deals and home and home deals I think which is a really good input and good insight that I'm. Unless you've got that far you wouldn't know that it's there and under the menu we're not been clear enough in terms of that. Here's our case studies. It shows clients, but it's not really showing the. And the case stories your writing it's there but I know we're looking without digging. Clearly. You missed it, which is interesting. So thank you. Yes. So like okay. So I'm I'm on your side global icons, dot com and I see the UPS clients go to clients I'll go to sit next to clients is ON ORANGE SOS CATEGORIES Yes and if you click on the categories like any of them apparel or something like apparel view examples, this is what I did yesterday. Okay and then you can see the different products made. That's right. You go right or left you can go free and you can see the twinkies you could see the huggins ice cream you can see and milk crock pot as we talk about right. So here I'm clicking on priority mail and then it just gets a little tiny thumbnail. Right. It really should be bigger. When you click on the carpet image, it should go full screen or at least full screen high resolution you know to K- images 'cause like when I see this. I get. So excited I'm like Oh my God. I, obviously don't shop at forever twenty one. This is so cool. I want to see more of it, and then that's it. Though it's no, it's good. It's good feedback right? It looks it makes it look less impressive when it's the small, you must have thousands of images we do we. Have a lot of stuff. I just as a fan now learning about this invisible marketing that you're talking about. Also in my mind is racing back into like every experience I've ever had thinking about only I doubt was one of those deals. That's another one of those deals in somebody like you or you literally brokered it right Just, one of our competitors, right about an books. One of my favorite examples from a competitor of ours which is the whole Vicks Vapor. Vicks Vapor Rub which I always thought was paper, but it's actually APO rub and they had those of us take really were horrible that major throat feel better right. They took that same shape men and turn into a vaporizer which was so smart announcement in for think years, it's selling the same vaporisers with Vicks logo in shape, and that's like the perfect example of a brand license. You take what you know the brand is about healing and about making your throat feel better and take that same type of attributes and turned into a vaporizer made so much sense and it's going any CVS walgreens and he babe riser section ninety, nine percent of time you'll still see. Vaporizer Vapor Rub vaporisers, and you'll also see like things, thermometers and other brand extensions. It's grown bigger than that but it's been there for twenty years. I can only imagine I me role. What kind of world is it's made the twenty years i. so wish that was our deal, but I'm still author deals like Damn, I wish. Somebody is done by. A woman named Nancy. Bailey. Ended up selling your company many years ago. But this is my mind I think it's one of the great examples of brand licensing has. been there forever. So that's an example of one where it's not just to make a marketing splash or buzz it's actually this is our business. We're GONNA, get it a license it, and if if it works, we're just gonNA keep making it. Right and the company that. has been making to make making it forever. Okay Well Jeff I appreciate you spending time with me today. How do people find out more information Where should they go again they could obviously go to global ICONS DOT COM can go to Lincoln on there. I. Post a lot So you can always a private message may I tend to respond almost everybody at that send me message because I think it's important I don't like you know if someone's GonNa take the time if not send me span like. You want me to hire you or you want. You want you know army because I want to go sell printers that obviously I delete. But if you're really asking me a question mental, even held brands that we can never represent you know give them advice on where they should be going or who they should be talking to. It's just important to help people. So I try to do the antastic. Thank you very much. My name is Jeff Walkman and you're listening to the future. Thanks so much for joining us in this episode, if you're new to the future and. About our education mission visit the future dot com, you'll find more podcast episodes, hundreds of youtube videos and a growing collection of online courses and products, covering design and business. Oh, we spell the teacher with no. Future podcast hosted by crystal and produced by me. Greg. This episode was mixed and edited by Anthony Borrow with intro music by Adam Sandler If you enjoyed this episode, induce favor rate and review us on Isis. 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#51 | Classic Cartoon Sound Effects!

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#51 | Classic Cartoon Sound Effects!

"Before we get into the show, I need your help if you think twenty thousand Hertz is important, and it's something the world needs. Please consider becoming a sustaining monthly contributor to do that. Visit twenty k. dot org slash donate. It's super easy and only takes a quick moment. Again, go to twenty k. dot org slash donate okay. Onto the show. You're listening to twenty thousand Hertz. I'm Dallas Taylor. If you watch cartoons as a kid, you probably knew instantly that the sound you just heard was from looney tunes. You probably also know that sound met Wiley, Coyote failed to catch the road runner. Again is pretty crazy how we can fill in the whole scene based solely on the sound effects even without a single meat from the road runner. Wiley, Coyote started falling off cliffs in nineteen forty nine. Yet, we still hear that falling sound effect and modern cartoons, like teen titans wouldn't stand there. Here it is in Justice league action. Had you do that? It lot. And here it is even in family guy. How it's been almost seventy years since the first Wiley Coyote, cartoon, and that sound along with many other cartoon sounds remains constant. The beauty and the joy of cartoon animation is that the characters do not have to obey the laws of physics. They also don't have to obey the laws of logic and therefore sound doesn't have to obey those laws either. That's Mark Mangini an Oscar winning sound designer who works with the Formosa group. I don't very often get to talk about my early days in cartoons. Mark doesn't get a lot of questions about cartoons because he has an impressive resume designing sounds for Hollywood blockbusters. I've worked on one hundred and forty two live action films. Most recently blade runner twenty forty nine Mad Max fury road which I want an Oscar for a number proud of warrior. Remm Lynn's four star. Trek's a die hard lethal weapon, the green mile. But before Mark did sound for films, he worked for one of the most famous cartoon studios in the world. My first job in sound was at Hanna, Barbera studios in their sound department. I started as a track reader which is a subset of sound editing where you're charged with transcribing the recordings of the voices so that the animators no went to open close the mouths of the characters. Keep your Ryan. The ball Vanni boy, that led to subsequent promotions to becoming a sound effects editor in that department at Hanna, Barbera and an apprenticeship with a number of really amazingly gifted, sound editors back then this was nineteen seventy six. I didn't know anyone who was called a sound designer, but I would argue that everything that we were doing at Hanna Barbera. Was every bit as designed as maybe something more profound that would being heard in a motion picture. Mark worked on some of handlebar Barra's most famous cartoons, the Flintstones. Some Huckleberry hound. A whole raft of Scooby doo. The super friends, their mission to fight injustice to write that which is wrong and to serve all mankind. And my personal favorite because it starred Mel Blanc. Captain caveman. Long before Mark worked for Hanna Barbera, and even before Wiley, Coyote was falling off cliffs. Walt Disney made history with steamboat Willie in nineteen twenty eight. This was the first cartoon with synchronized picture and sound. Walt and ROY, and I worked themselves would be the sound effects guys in their live orchestral recording sessions for those early steamboat Willie's. In the early days before there was multi-track recording or mixing, you had to perform the sound effects live with the orchestra in one straight pass. So these sound effects guys had to assemble props, put them in front of microphones and perform anything that they could acoustically live and in sync with the orchestra. Music and sound effects had to be performed at the same time in the same space, musical instruments were used to make the effects because they were easy to find an easy to manipulate in this Tom, Jerry clip the sound of a frying pan. Hitting Tom's face is played by a simple crash. And that falling whistle from the beginning of the episode that's played on a slide whistle. The percussionist would probably have it as part of their kit, and it was just a natural to convey going up. Or down. You could manipulate them in any one of a number of ways for quickly or very slowly. Sound effects played by musical instruments, became an iconic part of all cartoons. Then new audio technology in the nineteen thirties allowed sound editors to add sound effects. After recording the orchestra, they could use any prop to make a sound, but often still chose musical instruments because fix and music were tightly linked. They worked together to create unique soundscape. Listen to this audio clip from the very first Bugs Bunny cartoon called porky's hare hunt in it. You can get an idea of how affects and music can come together. The sounds for porky's hare hunt were created by an editor named trag Brown Trig, worked on looney tunes for decades and created many of the iconic cartoon sounds. We still know today. Once we divorced ourselves from the need to record live to picture trag head this fundamental understanding of how to decontextualize sound, how to take the sound of your finger in a coke bottle and make that the sound of the road runner tongue flip. Or why the sound of an inertia starter? The sound of this motor that makes a by plane. Engine start. Why? That's the sound of a spinning Tasmanian devil. She learned to be a genius at taking sounds out of one context and placing them in another context. And that's what made him so amazing. And when you listen to those looney tunes shorts, there isn't a lot of cartoon sound in those. There isn't a lot of comedic sound. It's all blind and his ability to take sound from somewhere else and put it where it didn't belong. Creating this bizarre juxtaposition that made it funny. I don't think there was anybody better than he was at that around the same time trick was working at Warner Brothers, William Hanna, and Joseph Barbera. We're creating the Tom and Jerry cartoons at MGM. Marksman tour creek Watson was a sound editor on those early Tom and Jerry cartoons. When I met him, he was in his sixties late in his career, but immensely proud to be still working in cartoon. He still saw it as an art form. Something is very proud of and he would never take credit for anything unless I asked him, he Greg, where did this come from? And he said, oh, I remember back in, you know, fifty one when Bill did this one funny scene with Jerry, and we needed a funny sound and we thought it would be good to do this. He was a man that was just thrilled to be a part of the process. Bill Hanna and Joseph Barbera eventually created their own studio. Then during their thirty years of making cartoons, they created a massive library of totally classic sounds. I think they're unique at least because of their own merit. They're just silly. So many of them even out of the context of the cartoon. Just sound like that's just the silliest thing I've ever heard. But then within the context of the cartoons in the way that they were used in the life that they brought to those cartoons, they just get better basking in the limelight of the animation. For instance, this owned is pretty silly on its own. Now imagine Tom hanging from his whiskers in the unavoidable fall as each one is plucked from his cheeks. There were hundreds of millions like this created at Hanna, Barbera studios. They had such a signature quality to themselves that it made them stand out as a unique piece of quality artwork or sonic artwork in the nineteen sixties. Hanna Barbera started selling their sound library. Other production companies like Warner Brothers use. These sounds to this day, the popularity of the Hanna Barbera sound library has given cartoons and almost universal sound language, but Mark Fields, some sounds are overused. I was on a one man campaign to Aratu Kate head take it was this inane noise that was again, I think recording accident that you would use whenever a character all of sudden caught themselves in the midst of thinking or experiencing something bizarre, and it was way overused. And did you ever notice how it sounds when a cartoon character runs. Marks not a fan of that one. Either that running sound was called blop Gallup. And again, a sound that was, I felt overusing I tried to not use it as often as I could to logical. But I tried not to use it as often as possible. It's a testament to its effectiveness, but even in nineteen seventy six. I was turning into an elitist, I suppose Hella Baresi. Of course, there are plenty of sounds that Mark loves like tiptoeing xylophone. Oh, that's a classic sound. I actually used that sound. I did the two Flintstone live action movies, and I did use it in that because that was a sound that Brian Levent director and I just loved and we just couldn't avoid using that. My favorite was the Jetsons spaceships. I never found out what those were made from a tried to deconstruct them asked around the studio, they know who made them nobody knew, but that sound always brings a smile to my face. Sadly, some of these techniques have been lost. But remember this was a busy studio and everyone was focused on getting the work done on time and getting tunes on air. It was a real machine. It always started with track reading. This is all point. Puns line, what good evening ladies and gentlemen, which is to say the voices would be assembled in a studio with script and storyboards. The director of that show would walk the talent through the recording session so that you captured all the voices speaking all the lines that you needed for that particular episode. Just watch the buddy. Okay. Then the animators would go off and then draw the characters doing these things. Then a month later, all the enemy would come back and short roles of completed scenes than we in the Dettori department went Sembler them in their. Aboard order and then cut them down to show link. There wasn't like an Matic's in between like we have in live action. We dissemble show and then cut sound too. When Mark was working with hanna-barbera, they didn't have a department dedicated to creating new sounds if he wanted an effect that wasn't in the library. He had to find it himself, you adjust kind of on your own. I was the most adventures, especially for the super friends. I would go across the hall to talk to the two composers appalled court and white curtain, and I'd ask them for musical sound and especially synthesizer sounds so they would give me long recorded. Stretches of just weird noises they'd make with their synthesizers and they would always be used as the science fiction components of I had a spaceship or flying saucer in an episode. That's what I use the electron sounds for because that felt futuristic too. And if Mark couldn't find the sound he wanted, he had to create it even if he had to use his own voice. If you can't find it, you do it with your voice. It's the easiest tool to manipulate you have total control over it. I use it for creatures and animals. And funny noises did a lot of gremlins voices for the gremlins movies have fun putting. It's just something where you feel the character inside of yourself when you think I can do this better and you just do it. Mark also went on to work on some of the most classic animated films. I did beauty and the beast. All this Aladdin can show you. Shining civillians. And The Lion King. Mark's experiences with animated films were different from the grind televised cartoons. If nothing else you get much better schedules, usually get the time to design and create something that no one's ever heard before. Another sort of unique distinction is that you have the option to create sound first and then have animation be done to what you did. It's not that often that we get to actually drive the image and on the the Disney animated films in the Pixar films in the DreamWorks films and others, they're smart enough to know the value of sound and how it can be the inspiration to the artist to draw something they might not otherwise have drawn. For example, in beauty and the beast bells dad was this inventive built that funny axe chopping machine. That was a sound that we made. Four enemy, which give it a truck. That's just pure design. That's when you get to let your imagination run wild. You can see a picture from story board and then you just get to dream up what it might sound like. And that's just gold for sound designer when you're sort of allowed to design unfettered. Channels and streaming services available today, there's more information than ever before. So how to sound design work in modern cartoons and which I con excel are still used today. We'll get to that in a minute. Here. Loss is extremely common for men with about sixty six percent of us losing hair by age thirty five. Unfortunately, when you start to notice hair loss, it can be too late being proactive about the problem can make a huge difference. Luckily you don't have to turn to weird solutions to fight off a receding hairline. There's medicine and science that can help for him dot com is a one stop shop for hair loss skin care and wellness for men. And now they'll connect you with real doctors and medical great solutions to treat hair laws. 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It's still kinda go to for certain gags and certain shows that's Olsen an EMMY nominated sound designer for enemy Shen. She works at advantage audio. I'm working on star versus the forces of evil for Disney XT. Trolls. The beat goes on the part. And spirit writing free for Netflix. You'll say, items. I worked on the fairly odd parents. Puppy. Benson is a beast. Banana cricket for Nickelodeon. Also worked on the adventures of push for net flicks. Gravity falls for the XP rest assured. There's a perfectly logical explanation and boondocks for Sony. Heather is an expert in modern cartoon, sound design. Cartoons down, affects or different from live action, sound effects because with live action, you start with production sound. You're recording a picture and the recording the audio at the same time wherever the actors are with Ron street cars going by wasn't a cartoon. If you're doing a street scene, all I get is dialogue. It's just the actors who recorded and I get to start with a blank slate. I don't have to try to hide production backgrounds. I get to get the dialogue and I get to create a world around it. It's kind of the best thing. And the worst thing at the same time to work on a cartoon because you're not trying to hide anything, but you have nothing to start with show in your head. You have to think what would the satellite much like marks time at Hanna, Barbera Heather gets fully animated show. Often add sound effects from a ready made library of sounds. This includes many from the Hanna Barbera and Warner Brothers libraries here or some of her favorites. It's called the tube. Thunk sound effect. I think everybody knows where the sounds like maybe I would've called, but it's that sound like when a character get your head stuck in a jar food. Foon love that old sound so clearly conveys. My head is stuck in this jar and it's not coming out again and I also love all the old running. Sounds. And I'm using this phone Blinken trolls all the time. Most sounds I have just persisted in everybody's mind every show because that's language that we've started to understand someone blinks you kind of expect to hear that xylophone at this point. And of course, Heather uses the falling whistle. Thinking our son of excellent, it's called bomb drop, but it's the same thing. I mean, that's another piece of the language that everybody knows. Since some of the show she works on or more realistic, Heather wants us to hear the sounds of the characters moving around and interacting with their world. Pendle like live action movie. The fully department really brings the show to life. They record footsteps. Things, characters, touch, which we call props. They do more of the smaller sounds, and it's great to have fully doing that instead of a library because then you're not hearing the same footsteps over and over. They really make it sound more real. And just like in the past, if you can't find a sound, you have to make it. Well, the stranger things I've actually recorded done myself or sound effect is we had a bit in robot monster where everyone was in a crowded restaurant. So it's supposed to be this crowd of people gagging grossed out by something, and that's not exactly effect. I had sitting around my library, so grabbed a bunch of people around the office, and we recorded ourselves gagging in lots of different ways. And then I kind of peace it all together into crowd. Sometimes layering multiple sounds together is the best way to create something new and odd combination that you might not expect. And I did not invent this animals and engines is a really great one. Animal roars under engines growls really kind of brings a vehicle the life. A lot of shows the stars definitely the typhi tres some growls under there as they go by. It's fantastic inspiration. Another option, Heather has to take a classic library sewn and change its pitch to make a new affect. Take this cartoon, Boeing, sound effect. She can pitch that sound up or down. Heather uses a lot of classic non literal sounds while working on cartoons, but some modern cartoons are more realistic than slapstick. Her choices really depend on the show. So especially, we're gonna new show. We'll do what we call spotting the show where the clients come in and we watch it together and we kinda talk about what they'd like where and just the overall feel of the show because it going to be kind of realistic show like spirit or is going to be really cartoony. Like fairly odd parents will be able to judge the whole. Fairly odd. Parents taught me how to speak cartoon. I'm not going near that thing with the appropriate particular gifts. This just nonstop, cartoon, cartoon, cartoon, we're spirit. It feels more like you're making a movie with horses out in the fields with girls. What's the matter? Don't you remember me from the train. Because spirit writing for has more natural sounds than a cartoon, like fairly odd parents, Heather needed. Some new sounds. We got a whole new horse library because in that show, there's three characters who are horses. So no actors voice in them and they each have different personalities. We had to find different vocals for each of the horses. But even spirit, writing freeze, still sometimes needs a dose of the vintage cartoon. Sounds. A lot of times people will come in with their show and say, I don't wanna use old, Hanna, Barbara sounds I want to do something completely different, but they've kind of animated the traditional way. So when you put new sounds too that it just feels wrong. And a lot of times eventually go back to using the older sound effects. When it comes to cartoon sound design, Mark, Heather, both agree that the medium pushes the boundaries of creativity. Characters, stretch unnaturally out of their body shapes. Those are just the simplest examples of visually what's happening with these characters. So in a way it gives you permission to break the laws of what sound you should hear when you see something I really like working for animation because I like to build a world with sound from the ground up because an animation of part is your designing world from nothing world that no one's ever heard before and sound design, I think is a huge part of the process for animating because there's no sound except the talking. So you get to the backgrounds and sound effects fully, and I think it all combines to really bring the enemy to life. So now there's so many tools that anyone can get their hands on your really free to design sound. In any way, your imagination desires important for us to follow our heart when we follow our heart, and then we make a career out of that. We make. 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Fred Seibert: When in doubt, count!

Math & Magic: Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing

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Fred Seibert: When in doubt, count!

"The Community of six hundred thirty million professionals Lincoln's powerful targeting tools help you zero in on reaching the right audience down to their job title company name industry and more better targeting eagles message your your customers care about to redeem a three one hundred dollar linked and add credit and launch your first campaign go to link Dan Dot com slash magic or your free one hundred dollar added credit terms and conditions apply <music>. You're listening to math and magic production iheartradio when we I got to M._t._v. you actually where the Guy <music> who inspired us to do animated logos I said well. What are we going to do in between the videos and the V._J.'s are we gonNA do jingles? Oh No we can't do jingles and I said well. What what do we do? You said how about this imagine. It's like a picture of a cow drawn cow said Yeah said and all of a sudden an X. comes down and cuts the cow's head off and it falls to the ground and you see the veins coming out in the blood spurting out and the cow vomits and in the vomit vomit is the logo and went. Oh my God I can do anything I want. I am Bob Pittman and this is mathematics stories from the frontiers of marketing where we explore the insights side of marketing the creative side and how they come together to create the truly remarkable ideas and successes today on this episode. We have someone who is a true iconoclast somebody somebody Alamo Frankie Genius Fred Seibert welcome Fred thanks Brad and I were art of the birth of M._t._v. where at the First Twenty Four Hour Day Movie Pay Service the movie channel before that playing around with the concept of making channel the thing instead of just letting the shows at the image of the network Bredon. I also shared roots and radio as our start Brad gets most of the credit for the original groundbreaking look unveiled m._t._v.. He also helped your labor and when she created the first tween a network which Nickelodeon I can still remember when he pitched the brand image for nickelodeon and it was like Orange Orange and of course all these years later was impactful as the look of M._t._v. bread went on to do so much more and branding network creative and a major career in a major influence an animation from his time is the head of hanna-barbera to his own fred reiter he also discovered and develop some great talent one of his superpowers. We're here to get into all that and more but I fred we're going to do you in sixty seconds. Just give us quick reactions just to wellness up so fred do prefer cats or dogs dogs dogs hoodies or button downs downs power puff. Girls are Johnny Bravo. Oh definitely power puff girls mets or Yankees Yankees Martha Quinn Nina Blackwood Martha Cup or Cohn Cohn Disney or Hanna Barbera Barra for sure. It's about the get harder. What's your favorite city New York? City favorite cartoon bugs bunny. What would you eat for your last meal? Probably the same thing I eat for my first meal some yogurt and some chicken and you've always eaten at known you smartest person you know Bob Pittman Oh right that he wrote that's tough to I don't know my parents. I guess I got working in my parents pharmacy. Favorite Book Dashiell Hammett Emmett anything that he wrote quote to live by something by Winston Churchill about success is after a lot of failures worth fat or fashion trend You participated in probably my Khakis and white button-down shirt. He's never changed. God bless you who would play you in a movie. Everyone says that I look like the late Herald Ramos. What would be the title of your memoir? He tried really hard proudest professional achievement. There's nothing I've ever done that. I didn't have a great time doing it so oh. How about this creating the catalog for a jazz label called Mosaic Records God bless you? What's your favorite ice cream flavored a mixture of chocolate yogurt flavor plane Beth live concert B._B.? King at the Phil Maurice Done John Excellent that was a good set of questions before we go back to your beginnings. Let's talk about people because I do think this morning your superpower. Let's talk about people who you hired Mentor D- or help develop Seth Macfarlane from family guy famed Judy McGrath who went on to be C._E._O.. Of MTV networks who by the way has been here she said the interview when is what music do you like. She said somebody new said wrong and the rest of the time you talked and she got the jobs. Exactly she said Bruce Springsteen am I said Ron and fully who helped bill showtime programming and headed that developed her way. We all did bell but you know you've had a really great track record. How do you spot talent? You know it's a really mystical process when you asked me to come and talk to you about working with you. I said you know I I only watch TV. I don't make come talk to me anyway and we had a quick cup of coffee like at the four seasons or something like that and I didn't think another thing about it until till you called and said you're hired and it was like I wonder why and I think that almost everybody that I've met with its that seem kind of process. Basically it's having a conversation with somebody and go you know I just want to spend more time with them and it really comes down to did they say something or did. We have a dialogue that made me go boy. I would really like to help this person. So how do you empower them to develop breakthrough not ordinary ideas. What I feel like? I've done is one. Let people know that my major goal at work is to have fun because I think you can make money from having fun. The second thing is to provide structure in a way that doesn't seem overly structured you know in my t._v.. Days it was making sure that spots were thirty seconds not a second longer or shorter when you and some of our other colleges save it doesn't matter how long they are like. I don't know discipline seems like a good idea or when we made <hes> cartoons to begin with and I was in love with looney tunes. I said well. Let's make them the same length as looney tunes. They said why because looney tunes are the greatest cartoons ever made what I found over the years is that by giving some people structure and almost nothing else other than sort of a philosophy of where you'd like them to go if they don't WanNa be there they leave they quit that Oh vibe with you one way or the other and if they do they've sort of accepted the structures the strictures and as long as I don't over note them in our business. It's all about the notes that you give and all that type of stuff in the cartoon business. I just would say to people or what cartoon do you really WanNa make if you you have one you really WanNa make we'll do it and if you tell me you have fifty you wanna make I don't WanNa do it. It means you don't care about anything so I'm just looking for people who care about something when you were talking about Judy and I asked her who she liked and she said Bruce and I set wrong because I don't have a good thing about bruce the fact that she cared you know the Bruce haters coming after you right believe they've been coming after my whole life the fact that she cared men all the difference to me in the world not that I agreed right. You've you've got these people. How would you describe your coaching technique getting the best out of people I ask them to tell me what they wanNA? Do the way that I sort of think about it is there's a big circle of ball and everything in it in that ball is what I love and then they have their own circle in their own ball and it's everything that they love and I said why don't we just like find the places where we touch just where we kiss and then we're both going to be really really happy and the only thing I want is like I ought to be happy while we've been able to do you for living over our lifetime is kind of magical in that. I think that what I've done my whole life is make people happy the people that I work with want people to be in love with the work that they do is people are really passionate about their work. I never hired anybody who actually knew what they were doing. That had done it before. That was one of our hallmark T._v.. We had these creative promo departments. Once people came in and started saying well. I worked on Promos over here like I didn't WanNa hire them. If they were wonderful writer that was great if they were wonderful director that was great. One of the earliest people I hired had just come out of film school in his first job was cutting negatives film negatives at a porno place. I'm like okay fine. You know like what if so let's jump back a little <hes> want to get some some insights from your youth about you. Your parents were both pharmacists owned the pharmacy and Long Island drew you work there and you were going to Columbia to become a pharmacist yeah anything in that. What does that tell us about you? I I have no idea other than that. I was very influenced by my apparent. Everyone in my family are pretty much scientists. There's biochemists. There's neurosurgeons. There's other pharmacists chemists and I decided at six. I was going to be a chemist in you know I would blow up the basement with you know experiments and all that type of stuff but when I was twelve a lightning bolt struck that had changed my life. It's like this you know the Beatles movie this just come out yesterday. It was like that and in fact it was the Beatles it was the day they went on Ed Sullivan in my life changed I went and bought a guitar taught myself. Guitars already a musician. I started bands. I did all the things that everybody did but I was a chemist and I was a science math kid and I went to college for that and I'm in Zoology class one day where you we have been dissecting frogs great and the next week we're going to dissect rats so I get there and all the rats are alive and the first thing zoology teacher said is now. I'll show you how to kill the rat before you dissect. It and I looked at my lab partner. I said you know I like the Beatles more than this and I walked out. I walked right to the college radio station. My path changed instantly so your parents who are the pharmacist. What do they say oh great Fred? You're leaving this wonderful career to go. Be a radio something we did not have a decent conversation for the next ten years actually really yeah. They were very very upset when they became less. Upset is when I went to work in radio and I was forced to wear a suit to work and they thought oh it'll all be okay. Well actually just make feel better from my parents told me for the first ten years I was working out of radio crazy business. Go back to College College. Be a normal kid and then about it might thirty sometime. They said Kasha sure I'm glad you listen to US exactly finally said to my folks. I'm doing everything the thing you taught me. All the ways taught me to do it. I took my own path in doing it and they finally sort of come down and even though pretty much for my entire career and toy started making cartoons. They had no idea what I did for living after you're leaving this possible careers. Careers pharmacist you eventually wound up as the promotion strict with a country music station W. H.. N. In New York one of your great supporters who I'd worked with and who I loved dearly Dale Pond recommended you to me pre M._T._v.. It was in the early taste pay-tv. You came over to join us and the Cable Revolution Yeah at the beginning of the cable networks phase. Why don't you make that jump well? You know this is going to sound flattering. I did it completely because of you. Dale had left the country music radio station and left me alone and the guy was working for at that time in radio. I had no respect for whatsoever pretty much anything I did. He told me it wasn't any good so you call me one day. You said you want to be in television. Oh you said okay come have coffee not with me. I went to Dale's files and had files on everyone in the business and there was one article about you about your promotion that W N._B._C.. We're W N._B._C. and we're gonNA make you rich. I thought to myself you know. This guy is younger younger than me and I've heard of him so that's one check so we go. We have the coffee and I walk out and I called my best friend and I said this guy that I just talked to is so much smarter than my Boston radio he does. What do you think about that? I said well here's what they'll taught. Me Doesn't matter what the job is worked for the smartest person you can find and at the time you're the smartest person I could find. That's what television that's flattering so any career lessons and that for the folks listening go work for the person not the job. I tell people that all the time working for smart people has always worked working for Ted Turner working for Scott Sasso working for you I would go in at ground level at a job and I always came out at the top floor her and then I go off on my own for awhile then when I screwed that up I'd go back to a job. We started experimenting with Network Branding with movie channel. Although the movie channel has been lost in history yeah so it's really some pioneering work done there <hes>. How would you describe that I mean that was very early and we were about the only people that were doing that? Approach to let's make the network the star not the program the stuff in nineteen eighty when we started together may eighth nineteen eighty. Wow what a memory yeah yeah. The average home in America had two channels of television. I lived in New York City so we had seven but you know the average home had to however in the same town that had seven T._v.. Stations are about seventy seventy five radio stations and over the twenty five thirty years before radio had learned to compete because they only each had a sliver of the thing and what that effectively came out to his each had personalities you and I had either the benefit or the curse of having come out of that business where we had to compete like crazy at a television station they just turn on one light switch and the other switch opens a hole in the ceiling and money drops on their head because it was just easy to make money and television. Oh vision so we started from the premise that you have to have a personality it turned out that in television that was called an innovation and by the way we would probably about thirty years too soon but indeed that was the demise of of T._v.. As we know it when the loyalty was to the program not the network when you asked me to come back and work on Nickelodeon there were only thirty cable networks which we thought were it's amazing and that Nickelodeon was number thirty and people like what do you mean only three thirty you know and then if that end their thirty I have to tell you at M._T._v. time. I was so freaked out that there were thirty that the resultant were came out because I was like Oh my got Oh my God what are we can do to stand out. What are we going to stand out and a lot of it just came out of the panic of getting lost in the Mush Tillis move onto starting M._t._v.? The board would not approve the idea but I did get us a budget to develop up in that period. Did you ever think we weren't going to get approval the launch M._T._v.. How did you believe in truth? Be told when you first told me about it. I thought it was the dumbest idea in the world because I was a music guy and I had seen you know if view crummy music videos I hadn't thought about it too much and then luckily somebody played me a music video that made you know the little white go off. I don't know whether it was blind faith or I was too naive to know that you had to have faith like you told me it was going to happen. I believe you with a youth totally. Totally I was just talking with Alan Goodman my soon to be partner at that point and he said you know we didn't really know it was going to happen but you look at all the other people that were around you and it just had to happen. I think that's really true well. You know we went to the head of Warner Communications and American Express that on the Joint Venture Warner Amex where we got started and we got a meeting with Steve Ross. Who is the C._E._O.? Of Warner along with his deputies he's David Horowitz etc and we got Jim Robinson and his deputy Lou Gerstner for American Express. I don't know if you remember but we were worried that when we showed these videos to American Express what you said let's find the Tamest I think we found the Livia Newton John Video the talk about the launch of of M._t._v. we of your member but in the meeting they do have to play that kind of stuff implying a living John was to to their credit. Jim Robinson's the first one to say okay. I'm in for my half Steve so awesome we locked out. Let's go to the launch of M._t._v. and talk about some of the things that really I think still stand out today the logo yeah we had no money for a logo. I was probably the cheapest man the world and had expectations. You could create a lot out of nothing well we. We were really started. Venture capital guys well again. Here's the metric I use. A guy comes to see me for a job in the Promo Department from C._B._S.. Channel Two in New York and I said how much you get paid leaves getting paid twice. As much as I was that was the metric we all earned intern wages if somebody had a dollar and we were asked him to spend ten cents we knew that be bad complete found people that had a penny and we gave him the dime they thought they had all the might. Tell people all the time absolutely just hold on a second. You've got so much more to talk about. We'll be back after a quick break. When it comes to marketing marketing your business it's about reaching the right audience at the right time and connecting them with the message that will resonate the most you know for us question as okay? That's great idea. What are the tools well? What we have today that we never have is linked in? 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WHO's one of the most famous graphic designers of the last fifty years and I was like oh he's can be really expensive and Opal get all the credit and I wanted to little credit at least so Mike Childhood friend who I've known since four years old a guy named Frank Lewinsky had just started a little design firm behind Taichi studio above Piccolo chemists on six avenue and frank had been the guy because he's a year older than me who had always introduced? Let's meet every new rock band. He introduced the monkeys he introduced me to the mothers of invention to the WHO to Jeff Beck and I knew the frank love music so I go down to his little Tai Chi studio place and I go well you guys design logo for this rock channel. We're starting and they're like yes and they didn't ask me anything. They didn't ask me how much they were going to get paid or anything like that and this was right after you sent out the first memo in June of nine thousand nine hundred and boy do I wish I had that memo so for a year are they design logos and I just rejected everything probably five hundred designs so finally they come in the office one day. We're actually going to go on the air soon right and we still don't have anything and and they bring a pile and I'm like no no going through the whole pile and at the bottom of the pile is a piece of tracing paper remember that you could see through and it was all wrinkled and they had flattened it out. It was just like a <unk> sketched TV. I want okay. That's the one I can see frank like rowling kind of. He and I now disagree but what I had heard is that the woman there's three partners and one of them wasn't really a designer. She was Jose <hes> production manager and she had done it and frank sodden hated in through in the garbage. She fished it out and put it at the bottom of the pile. He says that's not true but you know may or or as a good story. The only as I said yes is that Dale had taught me one lesson about design. You need to dominate the space and that big blocking A._M.. Was the only thing they showed that when you put it on T._V.. Screen fill the whole scream okay we dominate the space send in a world of thirty channels in day when the screen was square exactly right so then I go oh you know we need official colors. You know a logo supposed to be a thing that you make and it never changes so they come to my office without ten different boards everything was on boards in those days and then a little board where frank had illustrated ten or twelve of them on acrylic overlays so I put all the boards up on my peg board and couldn't decide and this one on literally for like weeks and weeks and weeks and finally we had to do something and I looked at them. I'm just staring at all of them. They were all. Oh like really kind of cool and I said why don't we just use them all at once all the time the I don't know who I was talking to and there's like what I said well. We're television. We move shouldn't the logo move and to be honest with you. That was my first. I real- revelation that I was in television that we had come up with an idea that only worked in television the other thing you did when you did those promos great stuff you laid the music bed down I yeah and cut cut music and everybody else in that era people forget this. They don't realize that was an innovation that everybody else did the video. I enrolled some music under so I got that all from Dale I was an audio guy and I was a really good audio guy of mixer and all that engineer her and when we started making our first radio spots we would film country music stars and then he said we'll go to the audio studio and cut the audio track. I went well. The video guy tells me no you have to. I I do the picture and then he goes Fred. We own the audio studio. It's free if you get it right in the audio studio them the three hundred dollar an hour video studio. We'll go much faster by the time we got to MTV V._p.. I realized that he was absolutely right. I was hiring basically kids. You know twenty one just out of school and we didn't have any money now fast for twenty years I go to M._t._v. one day. I'm running their online business for a little while and and go who's the Promo Department now and they tell me and I go down and I introduced myself to a couple of people in the went you wh- what you're the one well what are you talking about. They said they make us do the audio oh I we're filming. People like why so twenty years later they were still doing it but boy what it did is it brought and rhythm and energy it brought the backbeat of rock and roll into those spots everything was beat. You know I'm in radio. I love audio. People don't realize how much of your emotion is not driven by what you're looking at hearing I used to joke all the time that we could make the spots black and they would have the same effect right those horror film you on the next to scares you. Turn off the sound very scary so let me I'm not gonNA spend all of our time on M._t._v. but I wanna hit one other thing here. The cable operators wanted us to pay them as you say we had intern wages and no money so so our good friend male stunts who actually had Harvard N._B._A.. Said we should use consumer. Pull what else consumer pull and he goes will get the consumer to demand it. <hes> great so you and Tom Preston came over to my apartment one night to show me a cable Brat spot <hes> embedded in the cable brats. Was this memorable line. I Want My M._t._v.. The actual spot said they grow up with rock and roll. They grew up with television now. They want their MTV. George Lois who never saw something that he couldn't copy had already copied a famous T._v.. Commercial from the fifties called I want my maple for a really horrendous tasting an oatmeal he had sports stars like Mickey Mantle and Joe Nemeth crying like a work by Babe Oh and he redid it with Mick Jagger and you know whoever David Bowie p towns and all that type of stuff and they showed us the spot so we went and we pitched to you. I think you saw the feeling of it right away. I remember going into our bosses office in saying but H._B._O.. Spending ten million dollars a year in advertising goes you're lucky you have have to somehow or other people in the media business didn't actually believe in advertising as the weirdest thing and so I went to jail I said look we only have two million dollars. Dale was this brilliant hybrid of a strategist and creative guy and as a strategist what he understood is that we had no money to spend on this ad and he did an incredible data dump of where could M._T._v. be put on against how much media cost in that particular market and he did three or four or five cross tabs to figure out the most likely places that if we put on these spots we'd have an that we would get people calling and making the cable operators insane and that's exactly what happened. He literally took what Mayo said and put on the beginning of the spot. He had Pete Townsend doing it. America Demand Your M._T._v. right then people go. I Want My M._t._v.. I Want My M._t._v. and then Pete Townsend again with a telephone going. Call Your cable operator and say I want and God knows i. I think we made customer representatives from all over America crazy within four weeks I had a guy stopped me at a cable show cable operator and said I hate you and I go why. Why do you hate me and he goes because my phone rings all all day with those people saying I want can't get any work done? Demand is bad we reverse that demand curve and by the way I just sort of flip at a couple years one of the major cable operators decided they were GonNa Take M._t._v. off the air and you called up up and you said we need new spots and what's that you said we have to get people to keep them from turning off M._T._v. and we went and filmed a lot of rockstars half in shadow and all in black and white going. They're trying to take away your MTV T._v.. And we put those on the air and Lo and behold they did not cancel our channels. God bless them so let's jump to Jerry labeling. Let's jump to Nickelodeon you. Mentioned Nickelodeon was number thirty Yup. It was a toddlers channel invented to help Time Warner cable. Get some cable franchises. It's exactly the way that net flicks uses kids on their service. Now it is a come on that no family can resist and barrage had basically no value. He's asked Oh we have this idea. We're GONNA turn between channels. Actually Jerry said this is great schoolteacher. I got a great idea. We relaunched it to that point. Only MTV had an image as a network and your mission. You need to do with Nickelodeon what we did with M._T._v.. How on Earth did you ended up with orange after the M._t._v. logo thing which was really the most visible manifestation of the creative work designers came out of the woodwork wanting to work with us? We found somebody up in Boston. Guy Called Tom. I'm cory in his partners Scott. Nash we ask them to come up with some ideas for logos so they came up with a bunch of things and all of them were pretty standard logos truth be told I picked a really standard one. We were about to go in and pitch it. When Allen said you know our thing is is this moving logo and they have one here? Why didn't we pick that? I said well it's orange. It's only one color and so we call Tom. How come like orange like you said he goes? Well you know this is the color it's a pan tone to one and it is not found in nature anything we put it on. We'll stand out from that so we go into pitch it to Jerry and her team and she's like but you're the M._T._v. t._v.. Guys how come we don't get lots of colors. I think you said probably something similar and we just think I said Orange and I think we just have dance really hard and at that point you were willing to give us our pets and the thing that was really brilliant about their solution is that it wasn't an orange logo. It was white type that was always exactly the same one of the key elements of a Lagos. You have to have something something that is fixed but the orange thing ended up being thousands of different shapes around it and sometimes they were real shapes like a boy riding a bicycle or girls Ed and sometimes it was just an abstract design China blob a splat color burst or something like that and we realize that we could have fun using it. The thing about designers is they hate the work that anyone else has done so you you give them a logo that somebody else designed. The first thing they're gonNA WANNA do is change it and what we did with M._T._v. is basically the m became a canvas for artists so that any artist could put their own imprint on it and not feel like it wasn't there's and the shape thing at Nickelodeon gave every artist a chance to be themselves and it worked we wanted these networks feel like a human. We once had a personality. Yes so let's jump. We've talked about Fred Seibert. Maybe two point Oh let's go to bed cyber three point zero animation yeah you went on to be president of hanna-barbera. You had your own animation studio. You Begin this living expert on animation. Hannah held you interested in animation word that come from well. I always love cartoons and as a kid the exact same way that several years later I fell in love with rock and roll. I remember buying a bugs bunny t shirt when I was in college. Thinking was the coolest thing you know in the world when we I got to M._t._v. you actually where the guy who who inspired us to do animated logos I said well what are we going to do in between the videos and the V._J.'s I said are we gonNA do jingles. Oh No we can't do jingles and I said what what do we do. You said how about this imagine. It's like a picture of a cow drawn cow said yeah he said and all of a sudden an X. comes down and cuts the cow's head off and it falls to the ground and you see the veins coming out in the blood spurting out and the cow vomits and in the farm it is the logo and went. Oh my God I can do anything I want. This is the most exciting moment of my life and we started hiring animators to do all that stuff so in that process I started talking to lots of people we did animation. I'm curious guy and I just ask them a million questions and a few of them started telling me how the cartoon business work so I started reading books about the history of the cartoon business so one day nickelodeon comes to me takes me breakfast and said you know we've been licensing all of our programming. I said Yeah they said you know it's getting really expensive. Because the more viewers we get the more they want to charge us and in our most popular cartoon is this thing from England called danger mouse. We think we are going to pay enough that. We ought to start thinking about making our own. I said Oh great and they said what should we do silence. I go what they said well. What do you think we should do for cartoons I said why are you asking me this? Will you do our animation. I said well one. I don't animated anything and two I essentially take your logo and wiggle it for ten seconds. Please so we'll you're the only person I know I said okay well. I think you should make cartoons. The Way Looney tunes did and just start improvising and they didn't want to do it the way that I wanted to do and you know me like if they don't take my I get really upset and as a consultant they never quite take your idea so long story short i. A help them make a deal on a library of cartoons and I wanted a bonus and they wouldn't give me the bonus and I got so mad that I just started complaining to everybody and one of those people I complained to Scott Sassa the president of Turner entertainment he said. How did you do that deal? You make logos. I said Yeah but it was logical. I did X.. Y. Z. You know types fine and they were hanna-barbera cartoons eighteen months later. He calls me up and he said hey you know we just bought hanna-barbera. I said Yeah I heard I read in the paper us. Why don't you come run hanna-barbera? I'm like what I said look. I don't know anything about cartoons his story about it. It's a disaster there. You can't go wrong. If you don't make a hit. They haven't had a hit since the smurfs. Nobody will blame you and if you do have a hit everyone will think your genius so here's the kicker I literally look at my watch and on my watch our four hanna-barbera characters completely by coincidence. It's ten thirty five in the morning. I said I have ninety days. I have wind down the agencies will wait the first time I walk in the Hanna Barbera building. I'm president of the company I made to cartoons full series ten million dollars disasters. They fail like immediately named the what too stupid dogs and Swat what cats the radical squadron okay so I go back to Ted Turner. I go Ted. I know I'm out of budget but I need another ten million dollars us what I said. Well you know I I gotta get you some hits another ten million dollars. What are you going to do with ten million dollars? I said I'm GonNa make forty eight short cartoons because what you just had to failures like what makes you think you're going to say Ted if I do something forty-eight time so you think I'll do something right and you know the Natural Entrepreneur Ted was like you're right go for it and that was that and hits were power puff girls Dexter Laboratory Johnny Bravo courage the cowardly dog tau in chicken and I am weasel so you're at Hanna-barbera. You now have a hit Yep. Now you being think you're a animator actually to be honest with you. I figured that animation was sort of sideline that I was going to do for those years and that was gonna be it Ted Announces One day that he's selling company and selling at the Time Warner. I'm one of those guys that runs around the edge of the field to get goal like I can't run through the scrum and Warner Brothers scrum and it just wasn't the right fit for me and I figured I'd come back to New York and go back to doing the things that I had done in T._v.. Somehow I didn't know how somewhere between Judy McGrath herb scandal was running nickelodeon and Tom Preston who's running MTV networks they I said Hey why don't you come back and be a consultant. I never going to be a consultant again. Make things like I'm a maker. They said okay well. You may cartoons for Nickelodeon as long as you come in consult with us once a month. I'm like okay I could do that now. I don't care if you listen to my ideas and I started Fred Reiter you know in one thousand nine hundred eight and his history yeah so this is a podcast about math magic yep. How do you use both? I didn't know what to do for M._T._v. because I was the head of Promo but we had no shows and in television promos are watch bill cosby in a very special episode Thursday. We didn't have that I remember actually going out with Dale and we go out to the beach an against it and I just said walk with me and we walked back and four on the beach for five or six hours while I tried to figure out what the Promo should be and I realized that the problem that M._t._v. had was twofold. One is nobody knew what the hell it was and so telling them to watch watch this or watch. That wasn't gonNA be very useful so I realized I had to tell them story but I also realized something else that we had learned in radio which is at the end of every song people have a reason to tune away so that meant in MTV every three minutes people could leave. The ratings lesson I had learned was time spent listening was more important than how many people listen because we get somebody to listen for fifteen minutes for a few songs and through the commercial you made more money and if they listen that long more people were going to listen so I realized that an M._t._v. our job was actually not be cool. We knew how to be cool not be crazy and creative that we were going to you that anyway not tell people time the shows it was to get them to listen longer time spent viewing so fast forward nickelodeon one of the great things about Jerry as she was very research crazy and she said we don't understand why no one watches as you remember one show had a rating and everything else had hash marks basically zero and I said well. What do you know should well? Here's what we know. We can't figure it out forty four percent of everyone who has cable tunes into Nickelodeon once a week and stays for less than six minutes. I said Oh okay so that's the problem. The South to what do you mean is it. We just have to get them watching longer. We go back and we work out a promotional clock because the way nickelodeon did it was like nuts. It was well. If you have a minute here. We'll put a promo and if there's not another minute for two hours then we'll do up there was no organization and as you well know with media at dependable organized wheel makes all the difference so I go back to Jerry to the next meaning I said Jerry Gary I found twenty five million dollars for you to market to what what are you talking about. I said well the whole deal. Is this time spent viewing thing we worked out o'clock and there's GonNa be two minutes of promos and our and they're going to be distributed this way. We'll I'll have to re cut some of the shows but we have no new shows. We have to do that too. Will where's the twenty five million dollars coming. I said well your rate for your spots are five hundred dollars apiece and if you add up how many there are over the course of you it's twenty five million dollars and we're GONNA use them like ad campaign not like a television channel. We have a story to tell. I don't care about your show. The only thing I care about is your kids that watch them and the story that we were telling them. I remember having a fight with my accountant at MTV at the time and screaming about how much money were giving us and I said. Would it surprise you to know that I not only know how much every second video costs but I can tell you how many any time that second will run in a year fast forward. He's my C._F._O.. Now we've been friends ever since because counting delpont taught me another lesson when in doubt count and counting together with a creative creative approach makes for as you say here math and magic almost WANNA in the show on that such a great way to do I don't WanNa if you just a couple more things. Though we're talking about creativity talk to me about the rule of the old dogs like us and creativity we sort of know the power of young fresh thinking. We were that once upon a time. Do you think there is a role or is this a young person's game. I think there's always a role for anybody who gives a crap one way or the other. I decided a long time ago that I have three rules for myself. That you know have not always made me wealthy but they worked out really nicely. which is my first rules? I want to have a good time. My second rule is I wanNA make some money and my third rule. Is I WANNA stand the people that I work with figure figure at any point. If I get two of those things like I'm onto something there was a period of time where I was still fresh enough to that work that we had done in the early eighties that when I would meet with a new team of people go well you know what we did. M._T._v. was this so well we did it. Nickelodeon was that and I realized I was starting to be the get off your lawn guy you know and I decided instead that what I needed to be was what people had been with me. which is the favorite uncle I would go through the point of view that I had and why I had that point of view because it's still as fresh in my mind today as it was thirty years ago forty years ago? I realized that people need room to be themselves. The way I recall what I do now is I'm the burs in the bowling alley. You might not get a strike. You'll never get a gutter ball and by never getting a gutter ball. You have the confidence to be able to do something wonderful. The first person that I brought in to nickelodeon Colombian was a guy that you know called Scott Webb who had been movie channel producer and he made a bunch of promos and he comes in shows them to me and I go. What the hell are you doing because this is what they wanted? I said I didn't hire sure you do what they wanted. If they knew what they wanted they wouldn't have hired me and I wouldn't have hired you now. You better start doing the things that you believe in not the things that they believe in and from that day on not only was brilliant but the thing that very very few people know about Scott is he was legally blind but became the worldwide creative director of Nickelodeon while being legally blind why because what we gave him the opportunity to do is what he had always imagined rather than what he was told to do to me. That's our role. Our role is to give people the room to screw up because if you let them screw up and they're good the next time it won't be a screw up. It'll be a home run with move to the way we always in this podcast. This is about math magic the two keys that come together to make great marketing products and their experts and icons in both your favorite math person Dell p- on your favorite magician the Beatles bread cyber genius and friend. Thanks Bill. Thank you Bob. Thanks for having me I really appreciate there's a couple of things I take away from Fred Cyber one one when it comes to logos Fred's philosophies dominate the space to fred secret to great hiring is to determine in the interview whether wants to spend more time with the candidate such a simple metric but if he hears them say something intriguing intriguing wants to help them grow. It's an easy decision. The re on the flip side one of Fred's keys to success has been figuring out who to work for in his words doesn't matter what the job is worked for the smartest person you can find it's what made him take the leap from Radio Television and then working cartoons for Ted Turner. I'm Bob Pittman. Thanks for listening. That's it for today's episode. Thanks so much for listening to math and magic production of iheartradio. The show is hosted by Bob Pippen special. Thanks to sue Schillinger for booking and wrangling are wonderful town which is no small feet Nikki tour for pulling research bill plaques plaques and Michael as our for their recording our editor Ryan Murdoch and of Course Gail Raoul Eric Angel Noel Mango and everyone who helped bring this show to your ears until next time with a community of six hundred and thirty million professionals Lincoln's powerful targeting tools help you zero in on reaching the right audience down.

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"Hey it's Anya and corey and we know personally that parenting during quarantine is not always smooth sailing especially since everyone is home together all the time. Yeah and so sometimes get your day. You know it's totally fine to have a little extra screen time in our house. We really liked the live. Feed of pepe pig on Youtube goes twenty four hours a day. And if you're in my house it's a regular lunch date. My Boys I have with the Star Wars rebels. But if those aren't for you our friends at pop culture happy hour have put together some recommendations for Great. Tv that both young kids and parents can enjoy together. Yeah so we wanted to share that episode with all of You. Life Kin listeners. Also quick shoutout if you've got good tips about how your parenting during Kobe. Nineteen them with us. We want to hear him. So leave us a voicemail at two zero two two one six nine eight to three or shoot us an email at life kit at NPR dot. Org Pepe says everyone loves emails. Okay onto the episode. Staying in can be hard on everybody but it's a special kind of hard for little kids and the people who loved them so we're here to help with some TV recommendations for those who are toddling through isolation. We've brought some ideas for things to watch that we hope will delight your littlest quarantine companions. And maybe you as well. I'm Stephen Thompson and I'm Linda Holmes. We're talking about recommendations to parents with young children today on Pop Culture. Happy hour from NPR. Also with US logically enough back on the show are great friend Barry Hardiman now of the new. Npr Program at the national conversation. Hi Barry How's it going it is going? Well I'm so delighted to hear from you Just in a sentence or two. Can you tell us what the national conversation is for people who haven't had a chance to hear it? I'd love to it. Is a listener focused call in show that we stood up about a week after the Corentin really started taking hold for Corona virus. And we just take questions with NPR journalists and experts on all things parental virus. I think we had Linda on recently or a cup or maybe even in the first week it's true and you know everybody always talks about doing radio in their jammies. That is a thing I actually did in my jammies in my bed while it's wonderful to have you with us and you are here partly because you have two children. How old are they now? They are now six and nine so not exactly toddler aged but they were both toddlers. One of them is six so six. I think most parents sixes just really bridging the gap between actual person and talking dog toddler. Toddler is very much in my mind. Yeah so we knew we had to have berry with us to talk about some little kid recommendations because I have heard from a lot of people who are trying to figure out how to manage their their little at this time Stephen. You don't have little's now but you had little's can you give me a first pick? Well I think it's important to clarify. We're doing these recommendations are for very little kids and everything that we are talking about all of the recommendations on this episode our TV and I think there are parents of very young children and people who give advice to parents have very young children who tend to obsess over screen time and how much screen time a toddler should have look. These are unusual times and the first thing that I want to say before I even start doling out recommendations is just to remember that you're doing the best you can. You're doing fine if you need to put your toddler in front of a TV or a tablet and that is what needs to happen for you to stay sane for you to get your work done then so be it. Your kid is going to be fine. Your kid has you. That's what's important wanted to get that out there. I will also go so far. As to say as a person who obsessed about this didn't obsess about it goes back and forth the important part of the best you can is the you can part so if you are stuck on the fact well. The best is only two hours. It's the best that you can do. Given your circumstances your doing great exactly so. My first recommendation is something that my parents put in front of me. When I was very small child back in the seventies which has been fairly recently rebooted for new generations the electric company. The Electric Company is a educational children's program in the seventies it featured such wonderful luminaries as Rita Moreno. It has an extraordinarily charming kids show. That is really focused on education. But does it in such a warm and inviting and pleasant way so the original seventies electric company you can stream it via Amazon? It does cost money. You can find pretty lengthy excerpts of it on Youtube floating around and you know a lot of us who grew up in the seventies. We'll have you know like individual favorite moments from the electric company. I just remember that that was something that my parents really love to have on and around because though it was geared very very much too little kids and they say online. They say that it's geared toward five to nine but I think you can really go younger than that. My parents didn't go nuts watching it now. They recently rebooted the electric company from two thousand nine to twenty eleven. Those three seasons you can stream for free at PBS DOT ORG and As an incentive for parents who listen to this show and have not checked out the rebooted electric company one of the CAST members is William Jackson Harper. Who Played Chidi on the good place incentive to watch the new electric company Occasional guest spots and occasional music composition from one Lin. Manuel Miranda. I'LL AL. Obviously we could go back and forth. Comparing the quality of the two there is no way to compare something. You were nostalgic for as a child with something that is trying to duplicate that magic but that is a marvelous piece of educational programming. That is still entertaining. And that is right up there with stuff like Mister Rogers neighborhood and sesame street and all sorts of wonderful stuff that you can find on PBS kids. Electric Company is just a gorgeous piece of that puzzle. And I don't think it gets as much recognition as it should get especially compared to some of those other classic pieces of programming love it. Excellent Pack Loved Electric Company Berry. What is your first recommendation? We in our family when my oldest was younger and I was pregnant with my second son. It was really imperative for me to be sitting down lying down pretending that I didn't have a child for like two or three hours a day but I also had already watched so much Daniel Tiger which is wonderful and other. Pbs Kids thing. That probably taught me a lot about parenting but I wanted something that I also really liked from the creators of Wallace and GROMIT. Shaun the sheep which I have so many I mean I literally have photographs of both my husband and my then three year old watching. Shaun the sheep and both laughing at exactly the same amount because it is genuinely funny. It is the first thing that I think our family all liked the same amount where we really all were engaged in it in the same way. I you know you're not pretending to love you know Mom Tiger or whatever you're not pretending to be like Mom Tiger. I'm really actually mom. Tigers really haunted me over the years but I will say that Shaun. The sheep is both adorable in terms of its slapsticky laps. But it also looks gorgeous. So if you're not familiar with Wallace and gromit they created these these beautiful claymation sort of handmade aesthetic from our animations and Wallace and gromit. I also highly recommend but it's more of a sophisticated storyline. What's Great About Shaun? The sheep is that they are sort of snack. -able basically it is a brilliant sheep named Sean and the adventures of him and his farmer and his friends and it is genuinely funny. They're all of these little references. That are incredibly sophisticated without going over the head of your little ones. There's a kind of buster Keaton ask quality to it and I can watch them all the time. I really truly do not get sick of Shaun the sheep and my kids who are now as we said six nine still really love them. It's about that and maybe the British bake off are the only things that the entire family can agree on. If you've missed out on it please go back and watch it and you may find yourself watching it even without your children and where we find it. You can find it in a myriad of places. It is on Amazon prime. It is on Netflix. The Shaun the sheep extended universe of both movies and also the Wallace and gromit from the same animation studio are in many streaming places so if you just search Shaun the sheep you will find a gorgeous claymation that will make you. Giggle is a great pick and man. My kids now are nine thousand nine hundred sixteen and at no point in their lives. Has there been more than like a small handful of things that everyone in the family can enjoy at the same level at the exact same time so when you find one of those the love that you experience as a parent for that piece of entertainment is intense. I feel you on this one in a big way. Very very nice excellent. Pick Berry Hartman Steven. You'RE GONNA give us your second pick and This is not surprise. Me Buddy well. This one is specific to one of my kids particularly my older kid my son. Jona when he was little he obsessed over a cartoon that I watched as a kid called the wacky races and the wacky races were a very short lived. Hanna barbera cartoon aired in late. Nineteen sixty eight and a little bit in early sixty nine and then has kind of lived on in reruns. There's a DVD set that has like the complete collection of the wacky races. Hanna barbera cartoons are pretty primitive. You're talking about children's TV in the late sixties. You have some kind of squeaky gender stuff. There's like one female racer penelope pitstop. Who's like more concerned with her makeup than with racing? It has that name is amazing. Insert pitstop into my middle name. Very pitstop hardiman stuff hardiman The thing is though there's something about the way. This particular cartoon was structured where each episode of the show all of these goofy characters. They were the same characters. The plot couldn't be simpler. They're racing and at the end of each episode. One of the racers wins. There's a bad guy racer named Dick Dastardly. And his side kick Mutley. Who has that famous? Little wheezy laugh and my son who was obsessed with numbers kind of obsessed a certain amount of scorekeeping managed to latch into it. Not only as a piece of like fun cartoony entertainment but kind of latched onto it as like a statistician almost and really got obsessed with it. Even though there were only seventeen episodes he just watched them over and over and over again. Now the wacky races have existed in a couple of different forms. There's a wacky racist game for the we. The kids also played. This is also like electric company is one that got rebooted and it got rebooted a few years ago and once again if you're obsessed with the nineteen sixty eight version you're gonNA watch the version from twenty seventeen or two thousand eighteen and roll your eyes because it's not the exact entertainment that you grew up with but you look at the voice cast on this rebooted wacky races. It's Tom Kenny WHO's TV. Spongebob Jill Talley who's also voiced from. Spongebob she's also from Mister. Show like Tom. Kenny and Billy West. Who was stimpy. He was fry in Futurama. You have some really lovable voice. Cast working with this show. So lucky races isn't necessarily the top of very many people's list as far as like high quality children's programming but it was really important in my house and really had this nice kind of cross generational appeal where I got to feel nostalgia watching it and my kids hooked into it in ways that even I never did wonderful and Stephen. Where do we get whacky races well like I said the Iraqi race is on? Dvd You can also find it on Amazon prime though you do have to pay for it. The rebooted wacky races. You can find on the cartoon network affiliated Boomerang Channel and also access it through Amazon right. Thank you very much buddy now. Let's go to you for your second pick. I'm going to recommend Bluey. Which if you're wondering why you got Disney plus. I know that often. I wonder that also I don't have kids. That are obsessed with Disney movies in the in the way that like I actually am way. More obsessed with them than mine heads are at one point. My husband and I were like. Let's just go deep into Disney and see if there's anything here for us and we came across Bluey which is an Australian cartoon about a little dog family and first of all. It has a theme song. That is so catchy. And so adorable that like right now my but is spontaneously wiggling a little bit thinking about it and I do have an often spontaneously wiggling but but this is truly related to Bluey it. Is this darling family. Show about these little dogs louise the little older dog and Bingo. Bingo is the little one and I think what it does is it scratches for me as the adults scratches the rich that pepe pig never did. This has the adorable accent and the kind of family feeling. But it's it feels more authentic than pepe pig. Were they're always making fun of the way daddy pig looks for some reason. I have actually gotten great. Parenting ideas from watching blue as parents do their parenting. We actually do now the freeze Isla phone thing where you play the note and you have to freeze it has that kind of water. Colori but still bright quality and sort of squared off. Little Dog faces that I just love. And it is so wholesome without feeling like you're eating a vegetable and it has again. I'M GONNA also. I'm sorry Mom Tiger. It has all of the great parenting tricks and ideas in it without making. You feel like you've failed so like blue has really been so important to us during this quarantine and I really would encourage you to watch it with your kids. Because it is inexplicably delighting to people of all ages and you too might find it in quarantine so that's Bluey. It is on Disney plus right now. The theme song alone is worth the price of the ticket. Wonderful fantastic and if you're looking for more kids recommendations we have an episode from March Fourth Twenty Eleven which is too old to still be in the podcast feed but it is available through. Npr DOT ORG and we will link to it in our newsletter. The recommendations in that episode include Classical Music For kids pee. Wee's playhouse schoolhouse. Rock George of the Jungle. Some of the things that we also love. And you know while you are thinking. Npr thoughts check out. Wow in the world that is the NPR podcast for kids. It's hosted by our buddy guy rise and Mindy Thomas and that is now publishing daily so tons and tons of wrecks. Let us know what yours are? Find US on FACEBOOK FACEBOOK DOT coms. Pch Or tweet US at pch. And that brings us to the end of our show. You can find all of us on twitter. You can find me at Linda. Holmes you can find Stephen at I dislike Stephen and you can find berry at be Hardiman. He can find our producer Jessica Reedy Jessica underscore radio and our producer. Mike at Mike CATT'S K. A. T. Z. I F. might expand. Hello come in provides the music. You're bobbing your head to right now. Thanks so much to you guys for being here. It's so good to have you back. Berry. It's so fun to be here. Thanks and thank you for listening to pop culture happy hour from NPR. If you have a second again subscribe to our newsletter it's over at NPR dot org slash pop culture newsletter. It's my baby. We will see you all right back here next week where we're GONNA talk about video games on the Nintendo switch thing. I've been bending your ear about on twitter so we will see you then.

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