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#1357 - Ari Shaffir

The Joe Rogan Experience

1:46:52 hr | 1 year ago

#1357 - Ari Shaffir

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I have three in my trunk to right here yeah yeah here's a good I was smoking. Cigars bear on the show. People are going to be mad at US tobacco using tobacco products. You're totally cheating can't suck my cheese they they can or it can they can suck my cheese there fi instead of rules charlie hard enough cheese. Do you remember one time you weren't you weren't masturbating for a month. Remember that yeah and all those people like you haven't sex. They'll do an sex. I feel like I'm playing your game. I'm doing for myself doing my game. Yeah what's rules. I started working out. Oh I'll just bench. y'All dude. You GotTa do legs. They're not doing anything. Can you give me two times yeah. Well I so isn't that the problem Joe just with though with just interacting with people online there's always going to be someone is upset at you. How much you for trying anything rather no try anything? No matter what you doin to someone pissed yeah we they do. It's such a crazy place the internet so crazy and that's where we make our home. That's really great really is nuts. It's not light phone now. It hasn't come yet. It's coming up in about Cobra Brown. I'm trying regular phone this month. The regular yeah I got a new number sparked that no yeah yeah like a real cell phone like a smartphone. No I got a new number two regular flip phone okay but the old number I'm keeping it on on a smartphone seeing if I can handle it for a month handle AH I duNno signs are not great already. It's the fucking being alone and just kind of flipping through watching walking dead and then flipping like Oh double screens. My daughter has is a phone now but she has a little thing my young my middle daughter not like the older one that'd be ridiculous but where she has a screen limitation she can only use the screen. Could you turn it off can she. It's not just one alarm no she doesn't get to we do it so she got an hour and then what happens after the hour stops working what what stops working everything except phone calls you and your phone calls an hour of total use see I need that I can't find anything like like that so how. How does she not be able to turn off because you have the passwords for it yeah so I just don't give yourself the chance to do the passwords would imagine just just put it on our the hours on over? Just accept it in your head. That's not going to happen. That's crazy talk to play. Let's talk doesn't work. I know our kid. It may be time limited as soon as you see like time's up. Oh well let me finish sending this one thing. I'm hoping that Bert and Tom Bowl say that we cheated already because the glass and we're good dude the first year I'll tell everybody to dinner somewhere. Somebody said can't Booja. There were coverage archie guys. You tell me right this cheating because I'm done that's cool. I'm out one of the Great. The things about our contest is there's no real ramifications other than talking shit you know like Bert came in last but what happened to him. That would happen to him. Nothing nothing which is he just talked. We talked shit and then dealt with no repercussions. We all knew that we couldn't lose burt that was that was a massive motivating factor for everyone including Tom. Tom came back and he ran thirteen five. He was done on injury he was done. We set got really sick. Yeah he came back in the day back. He ran thirteen fourteen fucking miles to try to catch up and he did catch pass bursary. I I is there about this you. The belt stays well. I feel like there's no belt because it's not a competition. This is the problem the Prim we're GONNA explain this folks on the sober October podcast which is right after this but the problem is we none of us have the time for the competition. I can't go crazy. Why why what's different from this year to last year? I'm too busy is questioned. Is your schedule not exactly the same as it was last year more podcast for sure more or pockets more podcasts and other various activities outside of the podcast and then the heat that I took from my family. My kids didn't see me for a month yeah. That's why I thought I had some sort of chance to be home. I forgot you guys also have gyms in your home full gym. I that twenty four our Jim. I would go to yeah on the way home from sellers gets points yeah. That's a good move well you when you I figured out that you could just watch a movie movie in that that distracts you enough to do cardio. You can get some numbers that's pretty smart because that does distract shit at it makes it ways yeah. I just posted my workout which is be the movie that I watched Marnie high from the Cigar filler right. I feel like we were out helping. I'm Tom Burke coming in smoke. Cigars are doing the spurs as well. Oh do you guys own. Talk was just win. One will stay on the platform together first place. I thank let's have a dance off for. I I dance off when he was talking dance. He's just GonNa take his pants off. I know what he's going to do and then he did that video and that's a big jaded for confirmed two years under comedy when he said he was terrible he would do the pants off thing out some parts. It's doing now twenty eight years and accommodate stop that but people get mad if he doesn't take a shirt off. I know she's trap. I would be mad to if I would see Bert Kreischer his final time doing stand up in my city. Let's fucking Tornado in here does it. I can hear the headphones. Damn I got a head rush off a cigar. That's what I'm saying. We're high do with cheating fucking for sure cheating. I don't know what I'm going to do this. This whole fucking the Yankees are going all the way. I'M GONNA HAVE TO BE Games. We're out cast. Let's take a drug test right now like elevated levels of nicotine. We should be doing so bombed October. We really should be going for those guys into it. Let's just switch it up. You guys some whiskey meals really go hard mushrooms uh-huh every other day yeah you mentioned what kind of person you'd be the end of the month. He did mushrooms every other day. Can I tell you a story sure so I went to music festival and there was this guy who had a lot of my camp never done any mushrooms and this guy did mushrooms for four straight days four straight days the second day he was like we do mushrooms again and Mike I. They're not gonNA work. You really have to twice as much you just kept going third day. Kept going to much and mushrooms. Four days didn't touch phone at all didn't touch it had like four or percent battery. The whole time was off and they turned it on and he texted here to tell work wasn't gonNA come in the Monday. You know work from home. They gave him some shit and he just looked at his phone. After being on troops four days it looked as if you just see it rush into his head like this thing brings me such fucking misery and I had such a good time without and you can just see all that senator said he just goes fucking launches when he just chucked his fucking iphone for coach Yeah. It's such a great moment. You can't do much as do many days in a row. You got fucked up yeah. What did he did? He sober up after that and then his apologies other other front phones other friend went and got it and held it pointed out. I'm like no I'm holding for you. It wasn't broken now. It didn't break. It's amazing guys at the dirt. The it was on a dirt slash rock path could easily hit a rock easily. Give a case on it. I don't no no no I think the point is that he threw it. The new ones are supposed to be way more resistant to drop it as soon as it came out like Oh and if your job if more than afoot away it's going to break this grand new design the iphone ten it is a weird thing right where guarantee you're going to drop it can drop. It's it's GonNa Break Neil degrasse Tyson on recently and he's always got no case in his phone. That's the thing he marvels about the design. It's amazing design. which do Jamie rocks no case because of Neil degrasse Tyson's big caveat listened to yeah? Why would he say but anyway he came back and it's fucking phone's broken really hit drafted because he pulled his pants off like his jacket off or something like that and it was in the pocket of his jacket and it fell to the floor when he pulled his job avocado yeah he didn't he? You did account for this force of his pants down Torque yes of all that it didn't work out so he has the starry night van Gogh painting better the thing on his back the back of his phone and little bits of glass were coming off it and realized that it was cracked like case. It's so smart that you don't have a case but it is weird that there we have the super expensive thing that everybody carries around with them that if you drop it it will get fucked up yeah what uh what did you say new fold fund that cost two thousand dollars years ago. Penn can't use your fingernail or anything it will scratch. What's that's crazy? How did the galaxy fold yeah yeah? If you use a pen you can't use that. SPN You barely know not even a finger. That's just dumb how to use it so flexible because it has to screen just like it's not it's not not ready is the second design this a second iteration of it in the first ration- like immediately started breaking as soon as all those those influencers those two guys like boxed therapy M M K B hd. I would take the M I'm CBS. Is that right got a lot of letters Marcus Brownlee anyway. He's also these guys these youtube guys that make these videos news explaining all the details technical details these phones they got them early and they all broke everyone's brokaw so they had to send it back and they did a revision of it was supposed to come out in April and now just came out here in October and a couple of people have been broken already. It's two grand. That's so expensive for a phone. Maybe B twelve hundred bucks. I think I'm not buying in either. I don't like the fold I don't like the whole idea about it but you had a tablet on US point right. You have a full tablet you can yeah but it's not that much bigger than like a galaxy note but so big field okay netflix videos on the go that light vote. I'm excited about like to download uber on it and stuff like that. There's yeah there's a ride sharing APP which one I guess probably over right. There's some but like this. That's pretty good because this works. Oh outside protected. This is the case it's it's a special case that has like a little thing on this is my note so I have a note now and I have an iphone but the note the SPN is pretty fucking sweet. You GotTa Lie. There's a lot a lot of sweetness to it just but you do right on it. Yeah I write notes on it but the thing this thing that's very impressive a lot of the things the size the fact that when you have it open it has an imprint sp in in screen fingerprint reader but there's no basil's what's a battle. There's no outer rim on the outside. It's all screen thick black line around the outside edges over yeah just all screened his one little button on the top one little hole on the top where the selfie cameras. I'm excited for joker. Yeah looks looks pretty good. It's pretty good everyone Joaquin Phoenix was pretending to be crazy. Yeah was that and you could sorta tell at the time that he was sort of pretending yeah yeah he was. He's he's ahead of character. Who's doing for documentaries and it was like what is this? I don't get it. Did you see the guy from empires speech interviews. Yes yes yes. That seems almost like he's not. He's if he's presenting. He's doing a better job acting them jaw quin PHOENIX terrence. It's our our of life well terrence parents Howard the Guy who interviewed me for Rolling Stone told me terrence Howard is legitimate genius. He's talked to the guy. The Guy is absolutely brilliant. It'd be figured it all out ah I think he got high as fuck on. DM T that's what it sounds like you saw figuring yeah it does sound like that right hundred percent yeah yeah it all makes sense but the inability to explain it just kinda like it's all connected but he was not explaining it very well but very articulately like using it wasn't like nonsense talk right. He was like Oh this is shockingly coherent for ridiculous thing to say on to talk about what happened to him chain which one shame us no. Did I ask you which which would happen to him though which I think he's mushrooms mushrooms every day for a month or DMC every day for a month and he also covered himself in getting the terms on but maybe Syrian Russo the shit couldn't come out of a system uh anyone a little bit. How long was this Maybe a year and a half ago okay so I had before that before so we went to see Roger Asia waters he got tickets from providence went down there and he was like talking like he was like I figured out these math equations and he was like the whole thing was like dude. I know I'm getting Eh Science Guy. I get this ridiculous. I understand why you wouldn't believe me but I can like figure shit out to the point where mathematicians like I never thought of it that way. He's like I. I don't understand how it's possible but I get why you wouldn't believe that yeah he was like he was you know when you're coming out of mushroom trip for like thirty forty minutes. You're like not quite coherent. He's got a foot in their foot out here. He was like that for hours and I guess for like months. Yeah it was just in a constant state of coming coming out of a mushroom trip. I did. EMT three times in a day. Wow the third time it was a really strong one and it it fuck. Fuck me up for a while. I don't remember how long afterwards but this is during the fear factor days but I remember we -ality the word described. The reality was very slippery free yeah very slippery like I kept thinking that cars we're gonNA fly over the incoming lane crashed into my car and kill me real sleep a kept thinking like be really careful but then I realized that what that is is like my ego trying to protect me by making me aware of imminent threats and trying to reestablish its position as in the chain of command because like one of the things about really extreme psychedelic experiences is that they dissolve the ego to the point where you realize you don't really matter like you're a part of some crazy system and the only reason why you think you really matters because you biology wants to stay alive because issues inherent existential threats to your existence that have always existed throughout time and ultimately though it doesn't matter because you're just GonNa live and die I in probably live again again in this cycle and you're part of one of those guys that anytime you like fighting it like it just means you haven't taken it enough. I think it was like Terence. McKenna or one of those guys was like you just have take more than you can't fight it on you know yeah but I was fucked up for awhile really functional I was but I was real nervous and weirded out by the whole car along weeks. Maybe months to do it three times in a day you you're trying to do that on purpose or the first time was light I went in but I didn't go into deep. I saw the visuals and lay there and I was like I got to the door and I could see through the windows of the house but I didn't go inside this second time it just like opened up of fucking vortex and socked me through the center of the universe and then it was really really really intense. I did it again after that because I loved it because it was so awesome I wanted to do one more time. I got to do it more. The vape pens yeah. That's what we should do on November first. They pens in the morning yeah in here. You're going to be in New York well. We'll get back to my apartment. Okay that'll work yeah. Yeah yeah those fights. No I gotTA wedding. Oh Jesus who's getting fucked fucked over. Remember those game now know yet remember this game over t shirts showing all the rich. I Love uh-huh that's so crazy institution that works out half the time it is nuts. That's dude. I was talking to my high school friends one that we're talking about how long they've been in their place without their wife or kids like how long it's been since they've been alone in their house you know not on the road right and not with other white but with their kids like alone one friends that had ten years he hasn't been alone alone slept alone in his house where no no one else was there. I think that four comics one goo- really good thinking about going on the road. Get little resets new miss them and you come back yeah. you happy yeah. I've meet guys that don't ever leave their family ever and they look beaten. This look emasculated and shrunken deflated. I'm sure some people do you listen to that folk you man I'm happily married. I believe you still mad then. I believe you you believe you. I'm just saying I see a lot of people that are beaten down. People get annoyed with each other like if you and I lived together I need a break here there. If you and I lived in a two bedroom kill each other and be so mad at each other within how long a. month or even faster her first of all immediately saying okay this is temporary. We're going to get our own apartments but when I lived with dunkin' in my big house line for time live with me me for six months. Some of it helps if you know it is temporary kind of like some jobs where okay because you knew at the end of August this is over but that first year where you just like working like there's no end in sight well to see roommate's can be cool if they're cool right like if they pay the rant there. That's the best thing you can do is to never be there yeah or if they clean up paff themselves yeah always clean yeah. That's big that changes everything I give you room. He just leaves their shit everywhere. It's annoying even if they're not home but if you roommate cleans up they don't leave their shit everywhere then it's just a person that you really like you see every couple of days like hey what's up man we been up to that's fine yeah. This is kind of big and stretched touchdown so Dunkin was over on this corner and I was over in that Corner Kato Yeah usually a separate house though right but man he did a job he was like. I didn't really so much about anything yeah. Hey what are you going to do. I didn't really see much of anything that's been really cool to me didn't see much thank you again. I love in this tension. I didn't see much of anything though I did an audition once with with Kato earlier yeah yeah yeah it was something that I was doing McGuire and some other God that never wound up getting made but anyway we were all together and Cato came into read for it shittiest stand up when on your way down that's what people go into more than out of out of complete Short Daniels is he's doing stand up now. Pay Then Yeah Yeah. They're all like well. We'll just try. This is the end well stand up if you look no respect but here's the thing if if they did it and loved it and respect it and was fucking Gung Ho for it I. I have a unique opinion. I mean I know a lot of comics. Get Real mad at people title trying to do comedy Yeah anybody trying to do comedy is a comic if you respect and you treat it. That's how I've always treated open. Mic Irs of you are an open mic in my opinion. You're a comic except the one thing you always say anymore. Oh no so now it's it's only Asians of certain. Can we say even joke around about anymore. They're serious. There's serious it. Ah Asian jokes around the scene lately. It's almost seems like this has reminded people of that whole fucking angle the door. Oh Yeah we should talking about because right now. There might be Ninjas in here in this room. Yes from that from that cigar yeah. We're totally cheated. The chief blitzed but no I really feel like anybody boy straight trans. Whatever the fuck you are if you're doing stand yep you one of us? That's how I feel. You might be might be terrible. You might be on the on your first couple of days but yeah you could eventually be my peer. I think that's why the store specifically difficult even the respect for the door guys because like they go on to become the real comic than half the real comics were door guys number so there's like yeah you're just me but earlier yup. I mean you Duncan. There's there's a bunch of Sam. Kennison Bill Hicks Guys Yeah Yeah. The store is uniquely Nikolay Special in that way that it really promotes there's a lot of people the Improv too though that are comics but the door like the store rather they they make a big deal out of the fact that you can get spots. You can get those late night spots which are giant five minutes to open to. That's pretty cool huge. Ah those are huge and you know you get those occasional belly room shows and all you meet guys like us. It'll take you on the road to see real good comedy night I tonight styles yet. You see the murderers the murderers that can grow a lot killing can do they were intentionally fuck up for five minutes when he was doing like thirties and forties you know he's like fucking five minutes and get everybody that kind of against him and stuff out. Oh Yeah Yeah you do it. On purpose corny jokes he would do corny jokes and he would also just go what else what else tell people like. I don't even know guy we just an actor yeah yeah he would just dig Little White House. I love that what does that what else could dig those holes and then dig yourself avowed then you know that's a bit a bit the digs you out of the whole real bit. That's a that's a fucking shovel to dig a hole that shovel you. You know like two bits bits are pieces of expression but some of them are just tools somewhere there tools like like opening bids like I've had opening bits where like okay. I need to detonate this door to get into this room. Clear boom detonate the door okay now. We're in you know what I mean like. It's it's a tool. It's a tool to get the job done yeah yeah Jake Johan's he's okay open forum wants in DC. He's a great guy yeah. He's really Nice really really nice. Killer stand up to yeah never see that guy never run into road mostly always but built his own house. He's Tall Guy. It was like finally get showers that coming from over or had somebody bill I mean I'm sure he built it yeah. I know that's not really that would be there. Were in it but it's lame and it's all falling apart because I don't know what I'm doing time bandaids overhauls. She left me late night tape. That's supposed to stop leaks keeps a boat up the bottom of the boat. It's filled with but yeah you had some joke in the very beginning. You'd go behind introducing the go off so I couldn't tell what he was doing. He just said it's good to be here in DC. Everyone would laugh and I'm like what is that joke and I asked him. I finally saw every night I would do it and he would like to be here in d. d. c. and everyone would laugh Mike. I don't see where there's a joke. You're only here so I ran out to the curtain opened up slightly so I could see and it's just an easy easy one. He just goes it's good to be here and then he turns around and look at the sign and go oh. TC I'm like oh I get it now but he oh do I five minutes. Don't judge any of that yeah. That's just me getting them on my side in just working yeah because from me and then I can do whatever I want a little tools all the things that get going technique savings. Do you ever ever saver start off. Joke doesn't make for real quick. Yeah you always going to have those get out of jail. Free passes yeah you only got one or two of them and then it's like well now. It's just going to be a full bomb. Get easily be a full bump but one of the most satisfying sets you can never have it's like you start bombing and then you pull pull yourself out or in the crowd doesn't like you and then they slowly start to like you bit that for whatever reason just turns them mm-hmm. Yeah you know you you said something I think is so true that this is a great time for real comedy yeah. It's great comedies dangerous again. It's so much fun. It's back into these little basement rooms. Everyone's attacking it all the time. It's so great I ah people get mad at you saying something like harsh and you walk through it that faulk you know. 'cause you know like you made some Catholic joke. They're all butthurt because they're Catholic and you got him. Can you know it's okay 'cause they're. Only they're angry. At everyone. Else's laughing like crazy yeah now the scale of way larger down your stuff and go out and just was like get a bunch of people angry that people that are cooling off till I actually like the stuff. It feels way more dangerous than fun. You know we should do with this podcast with Tom and Bert. We should do like buds training bringing buckets ice and just have vodka all over the table see if they'll be okay yeah to see if they tap they ring the bell. Yeah I could see doing that. We can talk Burton ringing the bell specially. Tell me smoke cigars and we've got high. We smoke cigars with formaldehyde. Yeah it was called Sherm kids get way. Did you hear about that. Lady says nothing to do with that. She just got convicted today of murder. She walked into the wrong apartment. Oh a compromise yup. She thought this guy was in her apartment. She shot him and killed him. She said let me see your hands from his views the fucker you let me see your hands yeah. I didn't hear that part but I just know that she shot him and murdered him accidentally. She thought he was in her place. Yeah Yeah it's that's like I heard her bikes crying yeah and it was like Damn. I just like I don't know why do you keep going shooting uh-huh shoot right. It's the guy run at you. Yeah it's like. When do you shoot someone if you find them in the training wrong why unarmed people are getting shot? It's not really a sandwich real quick. It's like that right right just like I mean you got it wrong. At Very. least you got it wrong well. I've said this many times that I think the vast majority of interactions that people have a police. Are there positive. There's no problem yeah. That's why you don't hear about them but you hear about one every now and again but that's just because there's three hundred million people and if you count up all those one every now and again it seems like like this is fucking. Just the assault on unarmed still listen to over over statistics. Let's just people that suck at being a cop got especially especially girls no no fence ladies but you're physically weaker so you could get that gun taken from you. Someone's in your house you live by yourself. Maybe and you you see this guy in your house and you so terrified because like it's like a monster yeah a big man. He's a monster to a woman and then at the same time that dude is in his apartment Renault that dead so that's also not great. Oh it's terrible but like you're not supposed to just shoot people shoop in her is if she really thought that she she was. That's why I don't understand how it's murder like what's what's the accident isn't manslaughter like accidental shooting any of that house not manslaughter yeah. Tonight is following the story a little bit. I remember some facts from a few weeks ago that there are a lot of there are at least three or four things in place here that like made it not seem like an accident the door for instance the door in those apartments I was reading. It shuts automatically so she I think she said it was like unlocked or it was kind of open and everyone that's Sorta knows about that. Apart millions like that's not possible to shut math and behind you. You would have had to open the door. She opened the door shut all the way I think they had a relationship. Maybe two or something like that. What do remembering the facts so listen? You can't say that let's let's Google this. Let's start googling. I heard the guy shot the new Supreme Court Justice Cavanaugh Oh and he denied that Dick after a while. It's like no more Dick Field Yeah. I think it's a great time to be a standup. I really do think it's dangerous again. People like it's like you hear something when you are. One of those people will just go to shows you hear something years as an audience member. You're just like well also also the woke outrage has totally worn off and has the opposite effect like with Dave Chapelle like you know you can just skip Dave Chapelle new special. Oh must be also. I love the Internet all coming together just to respond to what who check out those people thanks thanks Bert two yeah but but ship pal special official you know the whole thing with rotten tomatoes only allowed five different woke reviewers to take yeah and they gave it a zero percent and then they released to the public and we all loved it because everybody was mad like John. Tell us what we'd like. A new failed at that job well their job is to review things things and their ideology that they're forced to exist in is woke ideology. Anyone who's worrying working as journalist like there's really in the Christians did did when they used to review stuff for like Christian content remember that Oh yeah when they were rated based on how many kissing scenes are there. How many curses are there like you? Don't take you don't have to see those reviews. Those are like a separate people's reviews well. Somebody wrote something about it that I actually tweeted today saving and find out about the connection between theology the the resemblances between woke ideology and theology. They're so similar yes. It's about compliance wave. Hey doing it our way. Yes our where our way put your hat on your special anywhere on its Thomas so fucking dumb even talking about it. I love dogs just like we're just in writing jokes and doing fucking good things but whenever someone who's woke says something that's ridiculous. It makes great comedy Richard Newman Bet yes I am doctrines is coming on the podcast soon too excited to talk to him. The righteous in the woke why evangelists and Social Justice Warriors Click on that so I can get with the actual why evangelists social justice warriors triggered me in the same way it ends the same like you gotTa. Do it my way shit. It's the ringway it really is yeah well. It's about compliance people love compliance. They love getting other people to fall in line yeah and they get scared when people are just out there doing whatever the fuck they wanNA. That's that's with everything man. That's with their diet. That's with the way they behave the clothes they wear people get mad. They get mad. If you wear your hat backwards I I asked my my friend who's now rabbi asked him for help with a thing. I'm doing my our and to look it up. Just factually I want to get it exactly exactly right and he's like no. I'm not that we can make fun of it. What that's how your job your talent yeah like? I'm asking and he goes now now. I'm going to be part of this mockery and like you haven't seen it. You haven't seen it. Wow someone help yeah. I know but it's like fucking hard to find somebody who knows it knows it. I don't have that many people left part of my life. You really won't help yeah fucking shut up. All your religious people could save every religion it's fucking real and then what you want in terms of like napping barest hilarious that they would have something. They don't want you mocking. Just let me the information. You can't hold it for me right like imagine if there was something like that would stand up like no. I'm not gonNa tell you how we joke. She's going to market your well. How do you get a mike tonight? I'm not telling you AH I mean. I'M GONNA market but it's going to be a fun way. How do you go from being an opening act to be in the middle of the headline? I'm going to tell you crazy anything. You can't mark is bullshit. I was so mad I was like get fucked. Come on don't use which rabbi eat my shit all your religious just fucking exactly the fucking same Massey for help as a Jew but how how are you still a Jew. This is something that's always struggled. Troubled people that are non religious uses the rare people that can also be atheists yeah. It's kind of like you know stand up Israeli. They are formed that it needs other people exists would use rare because you can see big cultural and Racial Ju yeah being a religious Jew but it's a racial missile Jew but you could be born in Europe or you could be born in Israel born anywhere and be a racial Jew but yet you are not religious at all aw at all Jewish is a religion yeah. Judaism is a religion both yes yeah I talked with our that Ju- Steph is a a lot of luck. It's just stand up but it's a lot of stuff. You've always wanted to know well. You remember back when used to tell those stories and I'm like how do you not talking about this stuff on stage. I wasn't good enough yet to close to it but so good that you waited two really good at standup but now he can like really delve into all the absurdities yeah really go go into it in a way and know how to like he's out and so Jews don't feel attacked and then be a rabbi Outta that will give you the fuck gotta find one of Robbie's come to the shows and and some of them have have corrected me on stuff and what's interesting. I want to get it right find. Those guys yeah yeah. I gotTa Find Him. Your friends lame. He's lame fuck and he's trying to get me to come back. He's always demeaning me like the fold. I don't mind in a nice way but not like a you're wasting your life. Cover up your bald spot with a Nice yarmulke doc. I get you a sweet one. All the ladies like your conservative friends who don't even understand your life. They don't like what they insult you on your like. No that's a good thing yeah yeah freedom yeah when they came home drunk at five. Am and a weekday right isn't that awesome it was great. I gotta I gotTa ride responsible. I remember log. He wrote a long time ago and you wrote like people you come home and somebody leaving and then like the align with if you could smell my finger will blow your mind I get super self righteous about their choices where the people like to feel like getting up early and you're coming home as they're getting up that somehow or another. They're doing better than you. That's not true most fucking amazing night ever Pussy Pussy what you've been doing watching golden girls sleeping. I fuck fuck you especially as a comic like you can't tell like what Mark Norman came in here with the clothes that he was wearing the night before before he came in here all night and then he slept till noon and made his way over slept till like eleven as we over here with a suit on who's great. I love love the this Luckett Yeah Man. That's us. That's our that's our religion your religion. It's comedy Yeah Yeah Yeah for sure. If somebody tells me something up and I was like well they joking yeah. Well you know that's the thing that was whenever I hear comic. My instinct right now is when he can you believe this particular thing. Even it was not on my side of things I believe I believe you know I I started angry. Then I stop and go wait a minute that look at it under the Lens of their comedian something and sometimes they're serious but a lot of times like Oh oh you this is a joke. There's a tongue-in-cheek like exaggeration on purpose or yeah or you try something and it doesn't work. You know. Don't hold someone to do what they're saying is. This is goes back to the Shane thing right the shame Gillis thing he was just trying to be funny he was trying to talk shouldn't be funny and you Miss People. It's just racist Mike Yeah but sometimes racism is funny if you if you if you say it in in a way call why don't you call it jokes about race relations. Yes jokes about race relations. which is something like? Can't we talk about that. Yeah isn't that one of those big taboo. Things should touch on. What races can you openly mock with no white yeah right Indian or I? I guess it's going away. Indian and Chinese was an Asian. I mean yeah you used to be able to remember going away right now. Joke about Pakistan Pakistan was about go to war with India and he was like what are they fighting over who smells the worst and he did this all the time and this is like you know early two thousands but if he did that joke now people would be fucking mad but that's what makes it more fun to. They're getting so mad. This dude was from Texas. He'd never been to India or Pakistan. It's like no idea if they smelled choking. It's like it's very hard for no it's not did you ever see a picture of like a real racist somewhere. You know I got real race yeah and you're like Oh then remember what they were mad about some other guy in comedy being racist and you're not even close like this guy made a joke and that guy's guys. Here's how you know who's a racist when you accuse him of racism and they don't deny it though I yeah fuck them that's the racist person now and they were like no I duNno. I didn't really mean that. They're not really feeling that way. If you make a joke about murder are you a murderer you are really I think so wow there's certain things right. You're allowed to joke you. Could even you could basically do you joke definitely joke about fucking animals right. Nobody thinks you're really. NBC Out Well. I think is all this stuff about like you can't talk about race or gender but it makes child murder stuff like all the better like it's a grand time for that that used to be too harsh when I start comedies right after columbine and that was like no you're GonNa ruin the room but now it's back really yeah sheild murder yeah yeah yeah school. Shooting you can joke about school. Shootings probably yeah yeah. Have you do it well. If you do it well but if you don't it's still like a cheeses which I got mad and a lot of people over that Louis C. K. thing. I got mad at a lot of people not because what he said was great. Lewis said what you just push some fat kid into the way irrelevance irrelevant he wrote. It was let me tell you something if he was left alone with that bit that bit into a great bit he would have figured it out not done comedy for almost a year here and this is one of his first sets back and he was trying to turn this into comedy. He could've turned that into combat the people that it's not even funny. It's like okay but if it was just about not not funny because I think I'm not gonNA say whether it was wasn't. I thought it was funny actually but it's a relevant because if I make an unfunny joke about traffic no one's coming after dramatic. It's clearly not about whether it's funny or not has got nothing to do with it. What's whether or not you should be able to make light of something terrible and you can't let somebody pretty not failed that direction? They'll be fill in all directions you try to find the line why understand regular people not understanding that I really do but I don't understand com- comedy emme. I don't understand comics not understanding the process of creating material. You are disingenuous. You know I can't understand it. If if you are if like say someone like is like a gym gagging type comic that's never offensive. I'm just like kind of family friendly you could anybody can go see gaffe and he's hilarious but you can take your grandma to see her with if he did a joke about a school shooting you'd be like Whoa Cham- but even then I would still say he's trying to find an angle. Let him do it. What do you mean let them figure out the angle? People don't laugh that's wrong. We talked to Catholic and after that you'd like how do they do. They go for it. They'd be like not really going to try to get 'cause. Maybe maybe pull back. I've had a bunch of bits like that. got a bail in this bit yeah where it's like you. Try IT and try it. Try Try. It just doesn't work but that's the process so now if I'm a young comic if I say can I even come close align because if I go over it that's what you do when you're kind of blindly walking towards the line over it in that direction your father talked. You might be really be fucked forever so I'm not gonNA come close to the line. That's not good get good finding it takes that and puts it in quotes and just right out of a contact takes it out of context and then writes it down yeah context next to the tone of voice your show and all the things you said before that right yeah I hate it. I hate it but it's a good time. That guy's really funny. Eh Yeah it's still a good time to stand up yeah. It's a great time for standup. I mean look the fucking store sold out every night. I know so people like it's the end upset. What are you talking about this place when they're not going to any specific person they're just going to see standup in general those are mop the stand in New York mob the seller mom I got on at one thirty the seller sometimes one thirty am on a fucking Wednesday and people like his anybody they sold? There's no room dude. I was reading an article when they're talking about Hannah Gadsby in the death of stand up comedy. I was reading it in my limo on the way to a sold out. Arena Larry showed it to inch cliff was like look dude I go. I guess it's not going to be anybody their special on Netflix. I guess it's all terrible house. There's no comedy more missed it. The fuck complaining all you gotTa do is shut your fucking phone and then another shit exists for the moment here there yeah there's some bad shit about somebody made a joke and unfair level of punishment but generally it's just like shut. Your phone is just people being angry. That's what the Internet is anyway. It's a it's a really easy way for people to Complain Dude. I I loved it. I was waiting for juicy that video. I made for so bummed October. Yes okay so I was waiting for because I knew come. People like this. Hilarious won't play my friends. The points aren't the right this. We had to do more points for this. Let's I was just waiting for it and then I finally saw it was like this is very responsible. You should be ashamed of yourself so people have real problems as and now it's just a question of what percentage of people have that reaction and what percentage don't so there's only one guy no one's gonNA listen if it was ten guys or if there's one guy that has a big twitter following now raised like feels like they should be mad you ever see one of those things where you don't quite get it you know. Sometimes you like. I see the other side. I think it's too far either side and then sometimes you like. I don't even understand why this is even a a topic you ever see those. you know the rages ages where it's really oh yeah some of them. You just don't even see light week. Maybe yeah talking told me that half the Anti Hi Star Wars tweets for Russian bots. I think maybe they're trying to shove. She's under the radar. That's what I've heard covering. Whatever so you just have people in the crowd how go I think this guy was terrible like a real like real like brawl between two people to groups and you could just go into one and be like he called you off target turns around and gets it going again right? These things don't seem real to take the wrong side. I'm like I don't think you really care if I showed somebody somebody whatever that first one was for the for that Guy Shane that funny comic if I showed the back table cell but what do you think of this to one of those whoa comics who said or people who are like. I think it's too far if I show them that video if they really didn't like it they would go with that so we'll look at it and they'll go. That's Tom and that'd be the end of it right. That would be the it but they have an opportunity to go up and let everybody know that they're on the team. That deserves virtue. I don't think the gods take enough abuse at some point you got to see the damage is intellectually. Does the people and it's like you can pile on. It's covered he's been it's it is honest hard. I like recognizing who's GonNa always fold. SNL will fold all comics to as an organization with a bunch of advertise. Apparently that was the big deal they had a cave to advertise but my thing is this kipton networks just call each other Netflix. FX And CBS and Hulu Hulu and Amazon and I'll call each other just have a meeting the people who run it and say we got to release a statement and the statement should go no matter what somebody said in the past we feel feel like for starting from here on in. We don't even know what the range is going to be about. We feel like we shouldn't be responsible to be judges juries on that We feel like we've gotten a wrong too many times and if you guys don't WanNa Watch it's up to you you gotta take it up with the performer the artists whatever and if they all just released that statement together people just wouldn't go to them than ever going to do that. Why why then they can just like it ain't us guys we gotta take it up to the comic? Advertisers uses an opportunity for them to Virtue Signal and get more people to buy their product. They'll say we do not support. This idea that hate speech is something to be casually dismissed but they won't because they're saying it's not even about anything in particular it's about were not getting involved in nece what somebody did on the other side or what you're going to define it as we've been through those with rap in the fucking eighties getting involved. I get it a for a month. We're not touching watching anything. It just takes all the pressure off you. You don't think if Amazon Netflix fucking talked about let's just all put together and then. What do you want to be the network? There's no we're GONNA boycott are comics if they actually do say something and a separate platform or do you want to be the network going Yup. We also agree comics. Do whatever you want. You're not out here. It's not like you're saying something to somebody in the hallway of SNL. You're saying something separately for the fucking six thousand followers. You have signed up for that Shit. They're never going to do it. Why because too much outrage you take the heat off? You don't have to deal with it from now on dangerous right now Ari perfect perfect. That's why Oh you don't run a business. It'd be they all should just do it. They're never GONNA do it. What does it respond? Oh Music Festival. I gotta I gotTa get tickets for next year and once I know what I do cut it off. Yeah you gotta get tickets for next year. Cut off that help you get tickets yeah dude. It's all about the mindset set I think knife cut that fucking thing off dude. I gotTa tell you about fifty years old old. What are you doing with this way? It's good luck. Hey I went to this nightclub in Germany in Berlin. It was fucking so far. I've been going around places yeah yeah. What was it okay? It's fucking Shit head on another level there. I'm not into EDM and stuff but like it was great is soon as you walk in. It's like okay first of all you can't even get in. Oh My god God okay. The first thing when you get in is just a bunch of people in leather worn out it goes from Friday night midnight until like Monday at about noon day into drugs and just danced for techno and house music on different floors will die in there they must must they must go hard and have hard tax yeah yeah yeah they must yeah but when you're down there on the third level where there's no people just come down went in like a day and a half so it was like Sunday when I went so people are just like out of it. sweaty girls would like to twos and like whatever there's a coach place where somebody said somebody check their Gameplan time time well coach for me. Okay the very first thing I saw I go in. It's overwhelming me and my promoter where there were like. This is fucking too much and let's get beers and I saw this is a great way to get. This is where all black or leather or just be with gay people gay people just get in and they make sure it's like a good time for everybody and they make you put a sticker over your phone. No pictures the throw you the fuck out do whatever drugs you want. anyways soon as I see there's a guy at the end of the bar just getting jerked off as is ordering by guy or girl by a guy up pag yeah yeah and he's fuck in the beer out of it on drugs still trying to get some other hand is just gone inside a missile Jeez yeah a full like because it didn't make sense that jerk doesn't yeah I think I mean I don't know something it might have been. It might have been. I don't know what was inside it might have been open or closed like a puppet it yeah and then it's just debauchery you just get drugs in the bathroom and dance and dance and dance yeah full you see full like blowjobs is going on. Wow it's like anything goes. People are out with their sticks out just fucking jumping and dancing everybody drugs. That's what they would do. Oh my gosh yeah good times. He was the best just walk around and you'd go to the bathroom somebody eventually I was looking for like anything what we're trying to get ecstasy probably right Kamali. You know something like that. Somebody gave me one. I was like I got enough for my promoter Goto and he was like no no. I'm going home. I'm only staying till like three. I've got my kids like soccer game tomorrow and I saw there's nothing I won't of exercise. fucking relax took salmon then we'd just start dancing man. It was so fun. The music is nuts it. They got like the best deejays in the world like go down there and just show off out just like do sets yeah. It's like the comedy store colleague comments door. It's like the best comics in world doing it for fifteen bucks wow nothing to do with the money they're trying to show off. Wow God it was so fucking fun. They just had this nightclub culture. They'll leave have like rockabilly bars there and then people dancing on the back. Do you remember when the early days of the Internet would get shit porn from Germany. It was always from Germany. They go every enter. Just go for it. Why Germany like do you think after World War Two? They just went crazy. No I think that after World War Two I think after the Berlin Wall fell I think it's all reaction to that shit really yeah because they're not really in Berlin. At least they're not really thinking about the Holocaust anymore. They're thinking about that East West. that's most recent recent massive you know and that was what was that the eighties yeah yeah that was during the Reagan administration Mister Berbatov Tired on on wall. Didn't I know I know somebody who had a piece of the wall. I had one you can buy it at Spencer's and stuff yeah I could also also by the poster of a guy with like that Dick Rutan like hanging out with a cowboy hat Um Abercrombie and Fitch store amber crappy and font yeah you go there. They spray you with some fucking toxic chemicals. Yeah it's like the whole place is filled with perfume. It's really strange that used to be a place where you would go and buy like legit outdoor gear going fly fishing. If you and I were going to go down the fucking can river in Montana Abercrombie and Fitch was yes. That's what it used to be. Wow sell like kayaks and shit flannels by the time I was a now. It's now it's just like Dj here but it's all these weird hermaphrodite. Looking people like everyone is everyone everyone like a sexual or weirdly thin too strange gender-neutral the girls. They're they all look like they're fourteen the crying game yeah all the cry. Nobody knows the crying game anymore. I was one of the first transgender things we'd ever experienced yeah a culturally the crying game sign across the street from the store and the Hyatt that was another like a gender neutral Asian lady with like a slightly less gender-neutral Asian lady eighty. Where's that it's on the store the one with the parking lot faces you know right now? What is it? It's just these two to Asia models yeah but they look like what what the fuck boy or girl yeah. That's in now. It's in people can't tell boy or girl yeah. It's nice mysterious mysterious but why is that in in more people into that. I don't know but it's it would. They're into it for advertising right but are the into it like how many people like what is the market for like people being gender neutral looking who's going to like hey man. You're going out tonight and try to meet somebody. Would you try to meet someone. Why can't tell what the fuck is? Just don't WanNa know WANNA know. I'm doing anal and I don't WanNa know when I pull their pants down. I don't know what the fuck expect while you're looking for a boy the girl who cares but holes holes I don't care I don't care gay a or straight or trans or what the fuck ever last just signed their first ever transgender boxer. It's a trans female to male boxer and my first thought was this guy's GonNa get lit up it goes and fights actual men it. It was female to male well. They're all amateurs. I guess maybe we saw it's gang festive naked. Roast battle to this is it. That's a female to male. Oh really yup the shoulders. Those are the Andy Dick show she did track track teams. Do mixed gender races races says disaster tweeted about it. Yeah it's a disaster roads. The the men blue by the women like there were parts that works transgender shit who the transgender athletes you know suffers. Women suffers always women when you're trying to make everything diverse. Let's diversify include everyone. No you're not including everyone your including men to compete US women. That's what you're doing because the women competing as men like that every last boxer. I haven't spartan forever. I'll knock that dude the fuck out. There's no way there's a difference is a giant difference. Those guys never gonNA beat deontay wilder. He's never going to beat a real member. Andy Kaufman was full on challenging women wrestlers and even going as hard as he could meza as hard as it could. There's a lot of women's you people. Fuck you up uh-huh but that's a different animal. You're not punching things. I mean there's a lot of female boxes. It'll fuck like Clarisa shields a fuck you up. You know there's there's a few an wolf. She'll fuck a lot of men up but it's not normal. They're not gonNA fuck a normal man up who as the same way to them just not just not fair. It's not fair and women and suffer with this transgender athlete thing. What do you think you're gonNA suffering? Were they well. The Olympic weightlifting committees already figured it out powerlifting lifting committee they've already banned transgender women the ban the whatever the organization powerlifters is but they they've put the fucking Kabosh on it because all these trans women who fucking men are breaking all these world records for how weird their crushing these records. It's fun because I want to be like okay. One understand your plight but at the same time you gotta see it from our point of View York setting world records all the time. It doesn't make any sense. It's just this weird you know what it is is where the rubber hits the road when it comes to this whole Trans Activism thing like this is what I really like when gender dysphoric this four you becomes a real issue. When when is that one physical competition in Physical Altercations Trans Woman Beats The shit out of a regular bigger woman in a bar? Is it a girl beating up a girl in a bar. What's let's be honest? It's not a male. It's a biological male beating up a female. That's what it is. That is what it is and there was a study recently released about Trans athletes in their physical performance after one year of transitioning additioning and how much the males have lost versus how much the females of gained female to male gained very little male to female lost very little though uh-huh yeah very little. It's like a very small decrease in their overall strength after a year of transitioning small below fifteen percent sal -rageous these women. It's biological women getting fucked over by people who want to be a woman. That's what it is and everyone who wants to be. Oh we're diverse and we're inclusive and you know we're we're progressive and what if you went to man. Could you then fight against the women no if you went from women against men and you can't you end this could you you fight back in the world. Can you like if I'm born a woman now a man can you can't where should I fight you have to fight man no yes but I'm saying in your the world and my world where they can't fight fight transpeople this central simple sessions transpeople onto saying to like how about we the racists separate as well these black guys fight blacks and whites. Ui Whites we need a chance we need. Somebody point you find. We don't get that I would definitely watch Gotcha White Fighting League. I've been told Dana White I was like if you really wanted people into the ultimate fighter you gotTa do it. Ultimate fighter race have four teams Mexicans or any Latinos blacks whites and the Asians and then have them fight against each other have four captains each of that. It'd be so much fun. All amateurs be a real issue. It'd be so fine people get so angry but al sign up for it well the it's really weird when they do like Brazil versus the US they've done those we're what's on it was great Brazil-. Brazilians Brazilians not ultimate fighter like that yeah. I believe that Race Dana I believe arrays ultimate fighter Brazil versus. US All Brazilian Team USA but the thing about I'm team whites. I'm on the FULTZ. You're the Jewish. What are you Jewish by Jews? You could just be the guys who wear the suits and right outside. The supremacy is hate the Jews it's one of the things get mad at goes crazy. They always had wanderlust Vanderlei Silva vs Shell Sunan Yeah. That's right no Arwan full race. This is a good start for sure but but hold on hold on put that back up Jamie you make that read the whole thing meals smaller make that that the coaches I think he might have coached team yeah. I don't know about that. That's just vandalism versus tale specifically Brazilians versus Americans. Maybe I'm wrong. You could do it. All the fighters sign up for it. They know it's a joke. I think it should be. We're more at odds with each other than ever. Why not capitalize on that? I think it should be white. Racists versus angry black is yeah. That'd it'll be fun. Yeah you can have Cowboy Serono. I don't know I would assume you cowboy cowboy cowboys. He's got a lot you could have only like half and half people coaching each side okay like only mixed-race-only mixed race people yeah no that okay. Let's tweaking it. We're tweaking it. I realized that maybe that won't work should be coached by your as well. It's weird when you go to other countries right because did you see what happened you you can make friendly to you could be like if the if the Spaniards win one you could be like now you guys. I'm going to show you talking about our culture. We're GONNA go all go to this restaurant and I'm going to show you what you know. Chato tastes like and whatever I thought going to both sides sure yeah yeah if that's part of their culture of weirdly bullfights are of largely largely offensive thing that still romantically received by good portion of the world like if you think about what a bullfight is like bullfight the matador that is that it's not thought of as an offensive thing but it's hugely offensive what they're doing. I WANNA go. I went to Barcelona. I looked but they don't really haven't Barcelona Madrid Madrid yeah. That's that's what I've heard but they don't really have it there but because it's like inhumane but like I still want to go. I just watched guy got gored really fucking killed get killed by the bull. The team went to cockfights. I've been cockfights. Yeah I had a gardener. These are slipped back and forth back from Mexico to the United States and what eventually went back move there have you ever since this is the border I was looking at this right by Tijuana and those and those boulevard thing right on the edge here like that's the the the laws regular oh Tijuana it's right. I mean it's basically San Diego. Oh wow that's crazy but it's right there. I bet it's active well. Let's Google it. I tried looking around one day and they don't have google well. I mean I couldn't find like an event there. They have concerts and shit in things so I don't know maybe they use it. Maybe maybe they use it as not just a is it but is it a just a a swap meet to it was a bullring seems like I mean take what it is. You can see it looks like for sure you yeah. It looks exactly like that. I want to go to what I want to find out what is in Spain and go to one. It's probably really sad joe. Where do you want to go if you go anywhere and it's like no not you Jamie? U2 You have ever have countries just like pulling Africa Africa yesterday the two I would like to go on Safari legit safari out there in a car you know I wanted to go to the Congo but every talked to justin ran. He's got some new fucking disease. He's he's got some horrible parasite. That's eaten away now. Great Send Malaria three times that guys at Saint you know is a fight for the forgotten guy. He's Ah he's a heavyweight is over there making wells for the pygmies. Oh Yeah we contribute this podcast and through the sponsor of the cash APP APP every time someone signs up these the Promo Code Joe Rogan all one word they get ten bucks towards fight for the forgotten. That's cool yeah. It's raise money and goes out of wells. It's really cool so they're building. He's going down there all the time to build wells and last time we came back with some funding terrible parasite and the doctors are trying to figure it out and it's like some mm jungle shit. He's in the Congo. He's literally in the jungle. You know catching these weird things. I had this Guy Dr Peter Hotels on he's a specialist in tropical diseases told me literally everyone who lives in a tropical jungle environment has some parasites. Wow shouldn't be there you just you just live with parasites. You're GonNa have worms and phases thing allows we sleep in trees like the call by giving experiences something I didn't do it. I talked people who did and then you just hike all the way through the jungle on sleep way way up in these tree houses monkeys all around you and shit and like every day you take off your shoes and burn off the leeches because non-dangerous Leeches ages but they're all on you. Burn them off yeah. Do you have a mattress cigar. fucking touch is like Whoa fall off yeah. He's Cra- parasites yeah so gross. They get like someone died recently. Some guy was swimming in some lake. I think in Florida and got some or maybe Texas got some brain eating eating parasites to win a newest fucking Noggin and just want to eat in his head like it happens man. Did I watch dude episode skeptic. Thank my podcast where we just just talk about things. That'll kill you talking about twenty years different. Things don't kill you last time doing another episode. It would be about that yeah let's do that. I'll be back in November number. We'll do that so I just got back from elk hunting and was it was awesome my friend John was twenty yards away from outline. They were both stocking the same help and you know he's moving so slowly such a great hunter that the Mount Line didn't know he was there so he's creeping up on this elkins he looks over and twenty yards is sixty feet can and you should mountain lion. No you have to have a tag which means you have to have. It's a limited draw hunt. If you want hunt from outlines it takes like thirteen years to get a tag. It's very very difficult in the State of Utah so he is he's creeping up on this bowl and you realize like God. There's a fucking right. Their big ASS. Mountain Lion was like twenty yards away from him so he jumped up near and scream them out. My fucking took more. They'll do also took also off. Everybody scattered yeah. WHO's trying to figure? You got what you do what you have to be careful because you get to close it might decide because these animals if you're inside the area where they don't think they can get away. They'll they'll turn into fight and that's when you fucked most of the time to just going to just run away to fight another day I liked especially mountain lions the operate on stealth their whole ideas sneaking up on people things dude I was I was in What would I do them as they go from car from Sioux City sometimes I'll do an ad on show on Wednesday or Sunday Chore and get a car and I'll drive around the country but so I was doing in Tampa driving across I or maybe it was my parents I any time I see a swath of green? I'll just pull over and like hike you know and this yes sure they will anywhere but in between fl Miami and Tampa is just a big swath of green so I started hiking they had this big fence around everything and I open it up and start hiking and they talk about like Sabres or whatever panthers panthers yeah they go like attack so rare we strongly advise you not not to be out alone. Panther tax do happen. I was just like a hike that bad today. This outlines yeah yeah. It's like a slightly different gene pool but I don't know what they're sneaking up on you. I don't know any of the tricks. I want. No part of that well you. You'd be definitely definitely be fucked yeah but there's other things that can kill you. In Florida. Florida's Phil was stuff that can kill snakes and shit. I like the fucking travel. Dos I liked getting out of my cards cards randomly and some like the noise out on a weekday right now it's up but if you found a meth lab back in the woods what does this is four years old. No human has been attacked by my Florida Panthers in state history while knife officials say oh well then I would definitely should have done it so true is where this is from seems seems interesting yeah that kind of just been saying because he loves panthers. Maybe live Mullah get pussy. Yeah people get attacked by mountain lines though and it's basically the same animal but I think the Florida panthers a really small population need is a very small population of them so scared take walking alone in the woods and I'm like shaking keys and a squirrel makes me fucking my heartbeat so fast whenever I hear anything which carry gun then you feel empowered us us to the woods with a fucking assault rifle start cracking off rounds Hsun the Oh yeah attack that's world. This is America fuck and manse coming at me. I'm a human being with a gun. Yeah the woods and make you realize what a bitch you are man. Yeah of everything and you know what's GonNa hear screams then you start thinking about how they get out of here if a snake does by a rattlesnake snake like how far do I have to hire myself out. Yes some endurance athletes famous endurance athlete just got bit by Rattlesnake. WHO's in the middle of some like long track? Oh Shit not that singer. who was there posing there? He got bit to Oh. I don't know yeah Mike Posner. He got bit on. What was he doing? He's walking across the country and like walking across the country. That was the story but I feel like someone else got bit to someone to get somewhere. I feel like I got this medevac out to a couple of weeks or something no builds that's a guy who does it's a very interesting guy. He has has a youtube channel and he bought a tesla that was junked and then bought another tesla and with the parts that it needed like to junk junk Tesla's and pieced together and made his own Tesla. That's like for a significant discount. That's cool yeah. It's really cool but this tesla people don't like them because they don't like the fact he's doing that and so he can't get his shit fixed regular tesla dealership because they blackballed him basically yeah so he opened up a place called the electrified garage so he's got his own tesla slow unauthorized. I love that guerrilla he's great he's great to because he's just a a real techy nerdy sort heard of very very informed guys in in a car guy too so he doesn't make any fucking sense like how how can I do this and so like okay he bought one that had been over run with water so all the electrical systems all fucked up but the body was good and got another one that was in a car accident but the electoral actual systems could so he took that and put it in there all together now. Here's a working Tesla Self Puckett Handy yeah very clever fill. He also was one of the first guys I ever met after one of those businesses. It's called a rat rod this new shit. He made that yeah okay so he got a fully electrified old school hot Rod Ford model a EH. Wow uh-huh. He's a smart dude smart dude. I love those guys like find their passion yeah. It's collects doing that yeah to make money yeah but he's also just an interesting guy that thing about youtube videos. It's like his perspective on things just interestingly say how do I fix this fucking thing figured out but the way to figure it out was he had to buy another one that was junk but then he had to get a key. 'cause there's like Tesla will give you a key for their cars. If you have a broken Ford right you go fix this Mustang but I need a key for. Can you guys make me a key. Forgive shipper take you key but we'll replace the cylinders yeah because why would you do with it. Yeah we want we want Ford is different right. If you have a Mustang and you have a nine hundred sixty five Mustang that you re you built yourself to be like oh great that's cool. That's cool yeah Tesla's like what are you doing. Zone authorized getaway yeah I was going to explode you. Don't know how to work with batteries fell shit. That's that's like my rabbi threat. Just give it to me. Give me information. I'll do what I want with. The key. Fuck hacked so you can get updates to cause Tesla update won't about this other blocking. He had to get a hacker to hack into a system so that he could get the updates. Tessa should impeach sky. They should get rid of uh-huh yeah. They didn't want everybody following their rules or is your fear Jew in Chicago this November Chicago San Jose. What are you doing when you doing comedy? I'm doing stand up comedy. I'm doing a great new our stand up comedy and now you filming soon soon films trying to figure it out figure out where don't had I just special pretty locked down pretty locked out. I did have a orthodox friend. Come Orthodox friend come to see it to point out like things that were wrong factually and and he got like one and a half. I'm so my guy so I gotta change. That was like a last effort to make sure everything we know somewhere. Something's headed a lot of these. I was like Dude I had three minute chunk that was murdering about no was forty children yeah and then I went back to my Sheva and Jerusalem to my seminary and I was learning that stuff and like he'd like to not upward children two sons and a daughter so I do like scrap how honestly four and a half minute murder chunk about Noah's wife's Pussy Shet yeah but whatever that's part of it but hold up so yeah right right. I'M GONNA actually look up. Are there any other Jewish historical figures that have that forty children doesn't even have to be Jewish historical fast track to someone else some other asshole yeah the the shoe shoe lady Kurds and way yeah yeah yeah right. What's that shoot the brothers Grimm Shulan long tails? They sat down and said Oh dice album recently. It's so over the top its main fucking bravado eras. Oh Yeah Oh my God. He's getting look sweet. it's just like Oh my God on an album and albums like mattered urge radio record. Will you heard when the laughter died right yeah. That's greatest album say because it's terrible. It's just like this is what stand up really well. He he put no no no no he had no material he decided to make an album with zero material to show just pop in a dangerfield's in New York City record it with Rick Rubin and have no fucking idea what he was going to talk about in a mistrial either no wow and this was when he was selling out arenas what a great follow up to the one of the biggest albums of all time Dude Isis unique cat doesn't get enough credit for being as unique as he is his unique guy like just data loan like people talk about about ego and this now. Do you know how healthy your ego has to be to release a two CD fucking release two CDs it was to you couldn't fit it all on one doc day. The laughter died was a two CD thing of bombing. Can I remember this guy yelled at him. You're about as funny as a glass of milk himself bad smoke reevaluate every single time yeah. Oh my gosh rush. Oh my God he didn't give in cared. He's just thing at the store. Just entertain the door guys who were friendly with them. Who's thing where he could see how long he go without saying anything anything of note so like we'd be in the back dying so I walk over to the MIC and like tap it with cigarettes and then like put it down test? I like not saying anything real right. Eventually we started turn it up and then eventually he would go so I was at the thing you know with the guy comes of any fucking talked you know how it is and then it's like you've got nothing real and we're dying in the back as you just milking being a fucking non and the weather's out of course that and then you gotta you gotTa think about everything you know what I'm saying right just and then finally goes into Oh a bit yeah. We're just trying to piss them off. Sometimes it was great. I would love to talk to him when he was releasing that that CD the day the laughter have to die like what what does he find your mind here yeah would you. Why did you decide to do this because it was clear? He wasn't trying to kill. No He's trying to experiment. I thank thank you. We really trying to show what a pop and said is really like. I don't think so really thinks no because a Lotta Times pop and sets you're trying to get laughs. He was trying to get laughs though art he just wasn't using his best ammunition using any. It's like playing Duke nukem but only using knife no no no. It's like playing punch yeah right right right right yeah pumps death left and right. They'll try but not knowing how to punch. I gotTA listen to the album again material. It's he was just fucking around like it seemed like everything he was saying. He's inventing on the spot. I need to ask him. If that's the case. I'm pretty sure it is because it seemed like he was all invented. On the spot. I got a record player finally and and I started like getting some comedy albums walk around and I'll just look some Missouri dollar. Bill Cosby's our fire sale you get like you you can see a state sales of Cosby self where people just got rid of dollar dollar dollar. Would you have him on your podcast. Bill Cosby Yeah Yeah for sure if he gets out of the pokey. I'd want to know what it was like in President. I want to talk about like up sending news story. Oh yeah the story I made sure I want to hear from people like that biggest mountain about it. I don't know you'd have to ask ahead of time. You don't want to trap or anything but like my biggest regret. The one get I wanted to get for skeptic from my podcast is Fred Phelps die before I I really wanted. Just ask them. The Guy who ran they've westborough about this church. I wanted to ask him the legit way like what are you looking for to. These methods will get. They're not make fun of them. Not Argue with them. Just like what are you into well. Did you ever see Louis throughs documentary on him. It's amazing really really good yeah as I was just just talking to Louis about some new things coming out now and it made me sort of revisit it Megan Phelps who was his granddaughter. She's a little crazier sure no no no. She was on the couch. She's a she's. She's a WanNa go that runs it. No no no megan is Megan's like remarkably kind nice. She got out knowing because the Internet like knowing people online in meeting them and they sort of put it out the hypocrisy and all the kind of the different things and then and then she realized Oh my God I'm in a cult yeah. Yeah Christian based cult yeah. A lot of people don't understand what your upbringing gives. You cut that thing on the US please crazy. That's why year old man with a July off the Internet and everything yeah I just took it off and and I got so bored that I shaved bald into my head yeah just so bored. Look thanks but I did it for the same reason I leave. This on. My girlfriend hates it so I was trying to shake my head with at the back of the back of a of a beard trimmer so the back is just for the sideburns but I was trying to shave all my head and I'm like forty minutes. I was back to like there. You're and I was like fuck this. I'll get a go buy real like you know a real beard chairman the next day and I go. Hey no come on no uh-huh. Oh No. I'm keeping it now. I kept it for out only because somebody died in the comedy scene and I didn't WanNa beat his funeral like that but it was great. Dude bronzed it. It was so much fun I got Tan. You couldn't really tell you tend to the Stripe Yeah Oh interesting yeah so it was just full it just a bald cut nice. It was a lot of fun how come brandings okay but black faces and acting like a tanner person yeah what you're acting like you Brazilian yeah right yeah shouldn't be allowed you acting like you have from Ecuador or something like Eur Jungle Person. I have a new theory about cultural appropriation on here. Okay so you don't have to respect every person's culture right you have to okay and if a part of the culture is wrong like say about the Chinese pushing on subway a bit too specials specials ago about Chinese people if they try to get on an elevator before you get off. That's always a Chinese person. That's almost always the Chinese not Asian Chinese but but dot part of their culture you don't have to respect right now everything so fine wide culture is appropriating other cultures. That's what we do you best nuns would elvis did that's what we crush it at Mexican food hotdogs. It's all appropriate the people that we do so you have to respect that in our culture which is taking on your culture. Yes like it because this whole country's melting pot. It's a melting pot with this country. It's a fondue place. That's right. You got to allow us to do your culture. You can still use your culture right but we can use it. Why can't you respect America's culture exactly Eh? Our culture says exactly and that's why I'm running for President in two thousand twenty four. You can't handle me yet. He's going to be your Vice President Table Vice President Minister Affairs. I think trump is getting impeached impeached jamie you paying attention. I know you ever see one where you're just like. I don't even know you guys are talking about him. I don't trust the media were shit anytime they say so isla. Maybe boy who cried wolf every single vaguely regulate guys. You've just riled up for nothing over and over again. I don't know what any of the truth. There's all these people are like what about this person this Mike. I never even heard of that guy. What about the steele dossier? Ah What about what about what about Ukraine. I don't know about Joe Biden about when he did. What about this yeah? There's some fucking Shitty tweets tweets. We already got that. It's already on the books. It's fighting that stop it. Stop everything. Cancel everyone. Oh shut up all you to shut up up seemed quite mad. I get so angry about it such a fucking annoying place now the Internet make sure you get the right cigar that ashtray because those Mike Tyson. We'd really fat boys right there. That's Mike Mike Tyson we joint yeah. I smoked one of those a long time ago to hit yesterday. We'll do the podcast. I didn't know what I was talking about. Half the time Sergio's cool great seem at the troubadour place that's my that was my line of what is a good rock club a big size rock club in La yeah apparently it seats like five hundred people but it doesn't really because you're all standing you gotta be up on the top level to be there. I love that place called him faulk once they were last. They were great and was their farewell show. They gave they were done yeah but I'm like that sucks so bad. They were really good really yeah. I bought an album about they couldn't get anywhere you know how it it's just like stand up. When you have a name? Call Fuck yes. There were Mela music to fuck music with music music default on. Maybe I doubt it's even on there could be but they're done Joe fucked music. That seems annoying the I don't if it's still on it's like I fucked music but not I you know the idea that quagmire idea like putting something wrong to fuck too yeah uh-huh utter silence Um Sheets Move Jackhammers. That's set a pace and that gives you a pace to go on like a treble treble with what are those things for a piano metronome metronome that's it natural cameras explosions going off screaming. That's what I like. No I mean if you're GONNA listen. Ah Two music while you're fucking I used to when I was young. I think though I think there was like a thing you put on candles play some music. Get your fridge originally to what what what what saw what Music Song Mazzy Star Mazzy Star her. I don't know certain people like Tracy Chapman Avenue Tracy Chapman. She got in a car that was going too fast and my professional stand up comedian comedian away they had to make a decision tonight or live and die this way they were riding and the car speeds are faster felt. I was drunk. Does you gotta go to Egypt Yeah. You would really like it. I do want to do that. We would like how dangerous terraces over there not very at all but there's a sense of danger for sure especially the touristy parts. The problem is like we talked about one of those tourists cities in Italy where it's like. It's too much I mean what's tourism's taken over town too much. It's like no longer feel Bennis. Okay and you WANNA be there but really what you want to be. As their twenty five years ago both Venice apparently they changed the laws and allow these gigantic cruise ships to pull into Venice but why were there a cruise ship hit a dock and apparently apparently there's been two accidents in the last month and they're trying to reevaluate but they're addicted to the money of all these tours do you ain't seen nothing like it. Man When we were there air is like it's kind of calm and then all of a sudden a cruise ship pulls up and then twenty minutes later take father people just ruining the place ruining any vibe with a place one of those Gondolas fucking traffic jam of Gondolas behind this is not what we are does not want anybody signed up for. Is that one hitting Oh my God and they're all starting to walk slowly get out of there are yeah no so what happens if they just can't backup quicken and all these old people on a fucking lambing into the fucking dark. They're gonNA crush that boat. Oh Jesus Christ is just nailing that other bom. I is this just a moron who doesn't know how to drive or is there some sort of tactical brands much vermouth. I got a little bit crazy with the Chianti move out of the way already. I want a glass of red wine right when you say that you know you. Can't you want that would be really great right now. class of red wine nice class a red wine sure no no. I was on the border the Australia Italy border. We hiked on the border for six days. I've gone to Italy the last four summers in a row yeah fucking great so what I was going to tell you is the other place as you kinda go. which is I go away? You know which has more Italian feel is like the problem with Egypt is all those places stuff you WanNa see is in the touristy spots why because people are going to go to the coliseum is just surrounded by people but if you go early enough to the Pyramids you're pretty good. Couple of hawkers will bother you but really you're good good. Yeah I read this blog. Tell me to do it right like being their first thing and you just have your run of the place. I think I'M GONNA say Self Tanner so I fit in smart so martin appropriate really yeah you can wear a turban. How come you can do that? How come you can go full Tan? You can get but at a certain point in time you get to a point where you're doing black face you doing black face yeah. We talked about that when the child had a bit. We're talking about that with ally what's a color wheel builders. They do self tanner but then they leave their face out now. Now out of the Tanner looks strange. Let's Photoshop fucking crazy to their faces why their body is black. That's a photoshop in my face block body but you used to have chocolate body have chocolate body but they they can't have chocolate face. I always thought that black black face was the thing when you're doing like soft shoe and like you have like around. Sarah Silverman did yeah but like you're making fun of the black face yes but like breakfast wasn't when you were little and somebody would go full costume of something like if they were going as the hulk they will go green everywhere green knows why don't you commit right and and then if you're doing a Mr T. you go full on yeah yeah. You're going to be like wow you went for it but he'll chance that back then that wasn't offensive it. Wasn't that was like not black face. That was just black makeup up quite what happened. I think once dummies find the line. They don't really know how to put into play is on a doctor. Cornell West was very interesting just some idiot on twitter and they yeah well. I think the thing that they said Yeah. We'll never get out of you. They were going after white girls wearing hoop earrings. Yeah they're saying the white girls wearing hoop earrings hoop earrings earnings are black and Latina which is hilarious because no they're not. They're actually invented in soumare. The oldest known hoop earrings were in Mesopotamia yuks. I saw this article in the bond made they made it in. Somebody's dining hall of college and Scott Got Really Mad because he's Vietnamese and that's not how you doing there to beget with this awesome some reason a beget you think Vietnamese forget you got it from France seventy years ago you idiot when they were there. Yeah I mean Italian stole Dole Spaghetti. Yeah whatever I enjoy shit. I'm GONNA use it. It's what I'm saying. It's fucking good food good music yeah. That's one of the good things about America Aca right we steal somebody on a daily shows. Mega Mega had this thing and boroughs in borough and I saw it a charity shop thrift store this beautiful Asian design like Chinese. He's assigned velvet shirt button-down shirt with his beautiful like inlay and stuff and I was wearing it and she was like wow that might be you know kind of cultural appropriation and like why it's just pretty I thought it was pretty good looking and she goes out of ten my guess my intent was I think it's good looking so why are you still talking about well. Maybe and as we're talking four or five Chinese people walk by Chinese tourists and they like stopped like Oh hey and they pointed like yeah yeah we like it and it was like gase fine nine. Yes stupid CHATA. Everybody's shot up well. You know they asked Japanese people about what was the name who was it that dressed up like Geisha Katy Perry. She got in trouble for dressing up like a Geisha and people were mad that Chinese people were very are the Japanese people were very happy because this shows uh-huh Siebel show the show the respect for our culture and enjoy our culture. If people just like Jews like Hasidic Jews I really put myself in the place. I'm like I think that'd be hilarious and fund for make sure I don't think and I don't think his jobs will give a fuck on the other they might accidentally talked to you now. Well what if you're doing an activity that requires you to dress in traditional additional garb like in Thailand when you had those fucking elephant pants on every tourist backpacker dude ah yeah yeah those are so you can ride elephants yeah me and my they make you doc makeup stuff so stop even burned. Oh look it's sunscreen makeup yeah yeah. You're allowed to do that but I mean it helps. You need your they don't care. They think it's funny. No I guess there's not one answer that are really they're not really concerned with that. All these things by the way these these funny funny words like that cultural appropriation and you know dead naming off those are like San Francisco's exports to the world you know his off from San Francisco they invent all all those things and export it but those are all things that like only exists and get people angry in a in an opulent society when you can afford to be angry about tiny do things like that. It's like we're all doing great. Meanwhile that city is the most overrun city in the country when it comes was to drug abuse and when it comes use folks yeah no in the streets yeah you're doing you shoot up in front of People's houses. That's abuse dude. I see those people in New York that bent over tweaker bent over look like fucking human question. Mark and I know they look awful but I know they're having a blast. Oh for sure. It just looks wrong. They're fucking love and they're in another place while they're in that other place. They just shit their pants and their ankles when they come back. It's problem but they're having a great time. They're not they're not in pain. Where do you think of this social? Justice outrage goes. Do you think it's it dies off. The people realized how ridiculous it is and it becomes like bell bottom jeans dude. I think it's all caused by the Internet by these echo chambers. You're living and these algorithms that want you being angry. I think it's making everybody angry about. It's the same fervor as the blue dress goal dress. It's on one of these things and it's the same fervor as like this was too dirty before doc was to race related to misogynous whatever it's just like people turn on each other on a level of like why you guys would sit next to each other at a ballgame and have a good time. Everybody's pretty fucking nice to each other most people most people don't get fucking n word on my way I mean you just never see those people anymore right so it's like doc or we just looking for someone to attack so in the Bible in the Torah. There's Med Russia's like a fable of so got to choose to choose what they taught us Shiva to choose choose the Jews. It's unfair to have us as a chosen people right. It's unfair to the other cultures so there's this fable that says God tried every other culture took them live their entire existence and then they died out they killed each other off never got to the Messiah Age and then died out so one time he picked the Christians one time he picked the Chinese one time he he picked the fucking Norwegians one time the Germans as his like this is my race right and every time it didn't work out and one time in one of these things and that's what he said maybe the dinosaurs are you give them the world for a while and it didn't work yeah but it's like you guys kind of reach them. You can just say whatever but they're trying to explain it away because they got no explanation for dinosaurs anyway what they said they used to be where crops just grew and animals were just abundant and no one had to toil and so the mankind would toil and didn't have to everything just grew right so they would think that maybe it'd be easier. It'd be Nicer there's this guy who has has is theory on like since computers are GONNA come up. We're not gonNA need like forty hours of work week anymore probably twenty and his theory forget his name. Is that with those other twenty hours we'll read more. We'll do crazy things but I don't think it is because in this fable of Judaism when man didn't have to toil they just went to war they just start murdering each other because as you need conflict so in great times it went right now where everybody's doing well iphone costs a lot of money and almost nobody had doesn't have one right. We're doing great great. We're in an opulent society. Racism is down to Super Low levels but you need someone to attack so even when you're in a bubble Elliott New York and almost everybody's ninety five percent on your side side. You're like I need to attack somebody because everything's too easy so it's a sign of how great we are. I think that's accurate. I think that's definitely what's going on. They don't there's not real oh problems like real war or real real like hard hard crime in the highlands in the streets and so we're looking for things to be upset at. I also think there's a lot of people that have access access to their phone while they're at work and I think they're bored as fuck and think there's all up and there's a lot of wasted time if you're an employer and you're paying someone to do stuff by the hour again t you most of their time spent listening to podcasts watching youtube videos and talk and shit on twitter. What's making angry angry? Yes it's all those things used to be so good. Due July off computer completely didn't do anything house phone no texting no. Nothing didn't look at a computer. How did you feel it felt? I mean obviously it was like harder. I had to write down on my flights and stuff ahead of time so you can take care of you know I felt really free Boorda's shit. You know I will do that. Shave my head. 'cause I was just bored a weekend but like really free if at all just Kinda like Smiley and happy and everywhere I just wasn't seeing the negativity wasn't like coming in but now I'm using it and I feel it coming back. Why don't you just avoid reading comments? I mean it is possible. It's tough in the in the board moments of life right where I'm sitting on the toilet or whatever like the delays board moments can just read stuff with one right. That's right. There and I have five minutes to fill L. He's checking on social media. Yeah something like that or Google news feeds. I just started reading articles to that's most of what I do with my phone read article articles and watch videos and the videos that I'm watching. They're almost always videos on science or space so there's that too booking. ESPN DOT com or something like that but it just feels like wasted a time. Sometimes it's wasted time. Sometimes it is shit but you but I've also decided to take shits without my phone sometimes and then I sit there and thinking and you think so the sauna go to the Saunder the steam room right and it's just like boom boom boom and then you realize like why not entering into that more well. That's where my brain is going boom boom boom. That's why the tank is amazing. You need to use the tank use a sensory deprivation tank. You can't bring anything in there. You're fucking floating in water so nothing and then you're telling me yeah exactly and just thinking and it's just slowed so that's what what I was getting a lot more of and I started getting bored. I started looking at my act a lot more and writing everything out like how many personal business how many like historical bits how many everything really looking got it 'cause you're bored. Just pour yourself into it. This wasted hours yeah well now you. They've been doing that and go to people's feed and see them constantly arguing with people. I don't engage in that anymore. Yeah gauge engage in any of it zero zero arguing people on twitter zero argument people instagram post things and I get the fuck out of what is this this programme that lets you like shut off after an hour. I love that second thing that you use for your kids you but you could use it for yourself to it. Screen time someone else will put into your phone so you can't snooze. Is it out. You're like done now. It's done that's great yeah. That's great because even when you're not using it by the hour you're like. I don't want to make this phone. That's what you need and you have access to your camera if you need to get a picture and social media if you've got to put stuff up and then like get right out yes yeah but just don't read. I just so hard though that's a weird I know it's just pull such a weird Paul writes yeah and then you want to read these even these anti comedy or comedy stuff. It's like it gets me riled up and I want to get in there and read it and you realize it's almost nobody in real life talking about it so he's getting riled up over nothing but it is funny to read like vox articles like Whoa Viet on how wrong they get stand up. That's not even the way it works yeah yeah I was. I was listening to this video where they were criticizing. right wing comedian they were talking about it him saying yeah fucking gay gays funny right black people black fucking funny. We've seen Blackpool. No one says that these caricatures of of of conservative people and of other people that have different perspectives all you're doing is making people. Well not like you and pushing people in the other way you're not. You're not really making your point. You just say how can some is. It's an old joke. I never liked when it's like all you do say something in a lame way. That's your proof of it being lame. You know what's like hey. It's like no that's not something different voice on that. You just week weird tired way of expressing yourself yeah. It's fake so we're going to do another podcast any minute now. I think they're here. We are shut this one down. We're GONNA shut this down. Our fear dates in Chicago in November San Jose. It'll be in Nashville in October and all through Texas San Antonio Archer Jew and just tweet are he'll get back. Did you read all the comments dot com or are they going to come at podcast skeptic. I have a double special. That's what people don't understand. Is The skeptic tower Asia fears skeptic tank. He's these listenable guy when it comes. He's a professional orator that starts did anybody it's five every week is a different topic. We cover podcast. You really have an excellent politics all the time. 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BP This Week: Images of Chaos

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BP This Week: Images of Chaos

"This is break point this week. A weekly briefing on faith, culture, worldview and mission with John Stonestreet President of the Colson Center for Christian worldview. Welcome to another edition of break this week I'm Shane Morris here with Johnston Street to explore the big stories of the week from the perspective of Christianity through Christian Worldview? That's what we do here. The colson center at something I. Believe is more important today than at any other time in my admittedly brief lifetime, John you are a young Guy Shane, so it's important to start by saying you know I, but I would say the same thing, and that adds another decade at least to the timeframe. Well, thank you. John. I, know people always say when they See me for the first time they say. Say you sound way older than you look so i. don't know whether to consider that a compliment or an insult, but I usually take it as a compliment. We're GONNA. Look back on this year potentially, and it's always dangerous to make these kinds of predictions, but I think we could look back on this year as the low point may be of the last ten years, it's just a week of absolute turmoil and that came with of course images of power. There is a powerful opinion piece. That I really liked by Joe Rollo at the hill, and in he surveys how pass chapters in American history. been kind of defined by single images, these photographs that just emerged out of riots and wars and political turmoil, and so forth, and how public reactions and even policies have actually flowed from those images he raises the really good question of which image is GonNa come out of twenty twenty. is to be the unarmed George Floyd at the officers meals on his neck, killing him, or is it going to be the ensuing riots and the property destruction, and even even destruction of life that ensued from that. Well Andy Crouch had a tremendous article this week and Andy's been really helpful commentator. In fact after we record this and I think it's important. To Note Shane that we're recording this on Thursday afternoon. Most people are going to hear this on Friday some a little bit later, and you always kind of mentioned. We're recording it, but the stories moving so fast and new things developing moment by moment that I think it's important to acknowledge that, and just after we finish this recording Andy and Pastor Chris Brooks of Woodside Bible Church in Detroit, a former board member of the Colson Center, a dear friend just wonderful. Pastor and thinker are going to join me for a live. Webinar. That's part of our truth. Love together event and I want to get back to the opinion piece here by Joe. Furuta is that how you say his name, but our truth love together event was put together in response to having cancer wilberforce before weekend. The theme of that was decided a year ago and here we are the third session. WHO, after talking about what is truth and what is love? The third module is how do we become people of truth and love and Andy Crouch did a tremendous presentation that people can watch unwilling to. That is asking the question. What kind of people does the world need right now? And I emailed him you know last week and said obviously we can't address questions about your session without specifically relating to the events of the week, which she obviously quickly agreed graciously agreed, and we've got questions pouring in already for that session. which again we'll go live before many people even here this this broadcast. And bring that up because he also pointed out something I think really powerful. When an article this week were also linked to that in the show notes that too much information is a bad thing, and we need more context and probably less new stories. Article Well and he calls out the idea that we all have to respond individually to each and every news article, which is exhausting Shane I'm doing this and I'm just going to be honest. I'm exhausted I we. We spent a Monday Tuesday and Wednesday here. And look at this is the first world problem I am not putting my troubles up against anyone, but I think you know. I have a very comfortable life, but trying to make sense of this. Has Been Nunnelee exhausting. It's been painful. It's been hard trying to navigate the questions. Folks who are GonNA stick around for the kind of the bonus segment in the podcast where we take questions. We're GONNA. Take some really hard questions people that were very upset with some of the commentaries on break point that we did and we'll talk about some of those, but it has to do with this point than Andy makes which is. The point of this op, ed piece about the image that will define our future. The images have changed the course of history Emmett till the image of the Chicago, a young man who was lynched in money Mississippi back in the fifties, Rosa Parks actually pointed to that image, and that image went beyond even what motivated her to take the stand that she did the have the image of the young girl in Vietnam. Had just her villages, the naval. Gentlemen Square Yeah and you know. You tenement square. It's exactly right, and we could just go one by one by one. The thing that concerns me is is that these images are always interpreted right so both the image of George Floyd and the image of the riots that we have seen in the violence that we have seen break out are going to be interpreted through the Lens, and that's a culturally contingent sort of thing. Not all cultures see images the same way, so his point of which image and also I think it underscores something else. Shame, which is Americans have are pretty bad at holding two images together at the same time. Or two narratives or two stories or two truths to the time right? Yeah, we which is, we should admit part of that mental exhaustion that comes from consuming a new cycle that you know. Past generations never had to consume because they didn't have such quick connectivity as we have so we're all expected to render an opinion on everything, especially in the age of social media, and if we don't then well, you know, we must be complicit with things, but we should be able to do two things first of all. We need to be able to turn the news cycle off long enough to just be still and contemplate. You know impre about what's going on. On in the world, prayers, the most important thing because it's in God's hands, right, it's not our responsibility, ultimately to solve individually all the problems of the world but the second thing is to hold the truth together to walk and Chew Gum at the same time as you'd like to say, and to be able to say that we affirm all goods or all truth, rather we affirm justice as a nonpartisan issue. We believe that what's right is right, and it doesn't matter who happens to be advocating for at any given moment or I should add any other direction. They WanNa take that narrative. It's right. It's right, and we should be willing to affirm that. So the truth that we have to affirm, even make it more complicated from Christian worldview. Chris you're going to get you a civic. Why wasn't gonNA come to? Yeah, it's it's much easier to stay back, but there are two troupes two realities that are absolutely essential. If? We're going to be able to navigate the challenges of our culture. The first is the thing that hopefully broke all of our hearts. When we saw an unarmed, George Floyd being really treated and in a way that eventually, as at least the coroner reports to the record reports that have come out. suggests ended his life, and that is every single person is made in the image and likeness of God, and there is a history of this in this country of affirming that among Christians by the way, not just not to mention among policy, but also the fall affects every single person. There are some people that are. Are blameless and some people that aren't and the Lens of critical theory one of our. What would you say videos actually to her? What would you say videos over the last month? Way before all this dealt with this idea of critical theory in critical theory draws this line of these are good guys. These are the bad guys. These are the good guys because of some thing other than their decisions other than their character other than there will there the good guys because they belong to a class that has been considered oppressed. They're the bad guys because they belong to a class, it is considered to be oppressors and everything. is to be seen through that Lens I. Pray tired of hearing me. Say This because I've said it about seventy. Five of our editorial meetings over the last year I've said it on breakpoint I don't know how many times including earlier this week I continue over and over and over to go back to the importance of Alexander Solzhenitsyn speech, a world split apart at Harvard, and one of the things that sultanate's instead elsewhere, but alludes to in that. That speech is you know that we wanna think that there are the bad guys there, and if only we could round up the bad guys that would take care of the problem, but the line of between good and evil runs right down the middle of the human heart, which is what critical theory tries to escape the idea that we can just draw a line down the middle of humanity and. And say well. If you're on this side of the line, you're of this particular race or class or sex, you know your oppressed, and then you are among the good guys by default, just because of who you are, and then there are other people who are oppressors near the evil ones. There were the evil comes from, and that was. That's probably the core flaw of the idea. Is that it? It, it's too simple it. It underestimates the reality of the fall in every human heart, and the fact that those motivated by a desire for justice, committee turnaround, and you know smashed windows, and and kill people and destroy property and alive, because they're so angry and that's wrong, but that's because depravity is in every human heart. It's not just you know in the bad guys over there. Yeah, speaking of. People with nature's if you're hearing a big thumping. upstairs. That's running back and forth. Probably violating the commands of my wife to be still. Undecided today he wanted to be a pirate and I had to. Well, I haven't yet, but I have to explain to him that you know. Pirates make a living a certain way, and you can't really do that, but he can dress up as one of you like if he likes to be. That same mistake that you just attributed to critical theory, which was right is also made on people who as we put it I think in two different commentaries this week want to immediately retreat to political or ideological corners in order to understand the broken of the world when you do that, your side might be more right on more things than the other side, but to think that you're right because it's your side is making that same mistake. The in in was trying to keep us from making and. You know the other thing he talked about was kind of the instability. We have seen a lawlessness revealed and I want to go back to something we've said before which is. I think initially in regards to Kobe nineteen that there are a pre existing conditions to our cultural moment. that covid nineteen hasn't created, but has revealed, and that's more true now about the injustice done to George Floyd other instances that we've seen of police brutality, and that's a hard thing to say because I'm pro-police sky. Most police officers give their lives their remarkable individuals, the institution in and of itself is not only not bad. It's necessary. The irony here. Shane is that it's increasingly necessary in a lawless society, and this is one of the things that trouble me this week by the law and order folks of which I would consider in many ways myself part of that group. Saying that you know the solution to this problem is kind of running over the violence when you're a society where you have to keep order by force. In which people can't govern themselves. Then additional militarization is not a solution to the problem. It's an indicator that the problem is really really bad and the lawlessness that is so deeply rooted. My wife and I were having this conversation this week. Just this tendency we've had as Americans for so long to decide which laws we're going to obey, which laws were not. We've seen that in the church. Right, which part of the Bible or we're going to hold a sacred. In which part of the bobble are we not going to hold a sacred? We're GONNA talk more about this particular issue. When we come back right after this folks listening to point to this week. Stay with us. We invite you to visit breakpoint dot org, and while you're at our website, be sure to Browser Online Colson Center store of books and other resources, and you can find links to our social media sites like facebook twitter. We're back on breakpoint this week. Talking about the stories of the week from a Christian Worldview, perspective John One of the big controversies this week that reemerged and it seems to reemerge. I'm just about every time. There is an instance of police brutality particularly when it's racially charged is the question of what other there is systemic racism in the police force and you mentioned just a moment ago you. You consider yourself a pro police guy and I would say the same thing I mean the vast majority of officers are really good people and I think that the idea of systemic racism doesn't even necessarily contradict that that the officers in question are very good people, but there was a trump administration official in particular this week it was the national security adviser Robert O'Brien told CNN that he said. Said No I. Don't think there's systemic racism. I think ninety nine point nine percent of our law. Enforcement officers are great Americans and there was a lengthy Washington Post piece that actually posted on facebook this week and it. It really rile people up, but it was a collection from a couple of years ago, another of these incidents sparked it actually of over ninety studies that analyze different components of. Of the law enforcement structure, and found a pretty strong evidence that there is racial bias at work, there are many instances in which African Americans are just treated differently in you know the police system in the criminal justice system, and so that's something that's very painful and difficult to acknowledge, but it's one of the core complaints at the root of this whole debacle, right? This is not just. Just about George Floyd. Even though as we mentioned earlier, that was the image that things off. This is about a more systemic claim. It's a much bigger idea that there's something at is an injustice in the US that African Americans are suffering. So, what do we do with Christians? How do we think about this well? We have to think clearly about it all right, so let's go step back. Back from racism to sin, and ask his sin personal or systemic, and the effects of sin just personally felt or are they systemically felt, and the answer is yes, in fact, we would say this our sows that we feel for example as Christians that there is a systemic attempt to rid the religious symbolism religious activity from the Public Square right, not allowed to pray in public school ethicist issue. Issue that's not to say that every single teacher believes that although are some that do that just to acknowledge that unbelievable in the consequences of unbelievable and Senate itself can be both personal and systemic, so let's grant that as a category then took look at a particular sin like racism, and I want to go to the quote that you just quoted from national security adviser Robert O'Brien and let. Let me, be really careful because I'm trying to be very charitable to everybody right now because you can hold up a quote from anybody and make it seem like they're an idiot or that. They don't understand it or something. When we talked about this last week and being charitable and to be clear, this is a by CNN and I'm sure that you know CNN has shown to pick. Just. But at the same time, I wanNA talk about this quote because it actually gets to the heart of how people understand what we mean when we say the systemic nature of evil whether we're talking about racism, actually or anything, so here's the quote I, don't think there's systemic racism I think ninety nine point nine percent of our law. Enforcement officers are great Americans and they're African American, Hispanic and Asian. Asian to the problem with this analysis and again, I'm not saying this is his. Because it may not be his. It just been a misquote or on contextualize, quote is the think that those two things are incompatible that you can have ninety nine point nine percent of blonde. forcement officers who have great intentions to who aren't racist and in of themselves. Don't have any personal feelings of racial bias. Bias or anything like that the Great Americans they want to do the right thing. They want to do their job. The best way they know, how and so on its own and so on, and so therefore there can't be systemic racism, but see that's exactly misunderstand this systemic nature of evil in our book, a practical guide culture. We talked about the difference between cultural waves and cultural undercurrents the. The cultural of the ones you feel the cultural undercurrent of the things you don't feel there. The realities under the surface. You Scuba dive all the time, right? You go down and look for prehistoric teeth. This is what does not the cats out of the bag. This is what shame does on his days off which takes a lot of them and he goes and dive under the water look. Just about that. Take him out of Saturday's off, John. Who says you could have Saturdays off? So that's like what chuckles, and you should say oh, what do you mean you're taking a vacation vacation last year? Yeah, that's right. That's exactly right I. Sympathize with his impulse. But the thing about the systemic nature of evil is that it goes unnoticed. It gets embedded in systems, and it can actually go unnoticed by people who have really wonderful intentions. This is just the way that systemic evoked kind of gets into our blood. It gets into our system now. The hard part too is that this is also complicated by conclusions particularly when it comes to race in law, enforcement and criminal. Justice that goes beyond the evidence. The evidence that you cited has to be interpreted and you cited this Washington Post article a couple years old, and it just goes on all kinds of categories where the outcomes are incongruous, right? It's profiling pullover rates escalation around amazing set of statistics. Yeah, if for nothing else, you should go. Look at it and we'll link to it again. It's just data and the data then has to be interpreted. One way that it's been interpreted has been than. What's called a new Jim Crow thesis that the Criminal Justice System was basically used to create a new system of inequality, and that sort of thing I think that that's an overstatement of what the evidence shows and I would grateful for my friend Chris Brooks. Who will be again with right after this for a live conversation, and that it will be available on our website in other places, but also Anthony Bradley the king's. College who's written extensively at this, but by the. The way both African. Americans who are looking at this and basically I think particularly Anthony Bradley tends to be just rabidly honest. Right I mean that's gets him in trouble on twitter more than once, but he will refuse to come to a conclusion that he doesn't think the evidence leads to. This is one of those cases at the same time. He would say that. How arrests take place one of the things. How quickly arrest escalate the presumptions of what someone is doing? And then you also have of course, the reality that oftentimes the context, the cultural context zip codes where this is happening are zip codes where there's a greater amount of danger, and there's a greater amount of crime and you know to say that cops don't racial profile I think most cops would say try not to, but they ended up doing it, and so all of this gets put into this mix. You also deal with the issue of generational damage from racism, so it may very well be many cases that the police are doing their level best to go out there and be equitable in the way that they you know black neighborhoods. neighborhoods in white neighborhoods. The Problem John is we know that there is a strong relationship between family, breakdown and crime, not just Harvey Crime, not just you know race and crime ridden a any of these other factors, and so we've got generations of people in a community where many of the fathers are incarcerated or not present, and that just continues this cycle of crime, so they're going to get over police at least statistically as a result of that yet to go back into American history and ask the question why as the state of events come? Why is this condition afflicting African? American communities well at least part of the answer is. Slavery was the most Anti Family Institution in the history of the West. Now. That's something that was I said this week in a breakpoint commentary that legacy of slavery. We think it's going to go away of this stuff you get over. There was something uniquely wrong about the way the British did slavery, and the Spanish did slavery, and then how that carried over into the American context and the intentional separation of the family it's. It's a remarkable thing that the family emerged kind of during the Jim Crow era in particular is as strong in a stable as it did in the African American community, and then you had another issue and again what we're we're trying to say is you can't just pull out one of these stones and clear up the water I mean this is a perfect storm of a bunch of bad decisions and evil and sin. Sin and wrong and one of those was an attempt to help that ended up hurting right and there's that book when helping her study, I assume yeah, when you further incentivize the breakdown of the family when you insert further incentivize fatherless homes, and by the way, this is not just an affliction of the African American community I am not saying that at all. What were you actually see that right now is socioeconomic divides. Divides that we've been talking about that extensively. Since about twenty sixteen with Hillbilly Allergy and everything, the revelation that there are whole components of the white community in the United States that are just breaking down and undergoing this degradation and extreme poverty and breakdown of the family, and all the social ills that go with that. Yeah, so you put all this together and then so what explains this week? You have this kind of. A perfect storm of conditions on the back end, and then you have this awful video. You have a context in which an awful awful video like this immediately goes viral and everyone sees it in the blink of an eye. And then you have a communities that have been socially isolated for you know however many weeks, so we're not okay. That's another commentary that we have coming out this coming week that we're seeing now. Some of the results of mental health issues with social lockdowns, and then you have agitators, and there's no way to ignore the fact that there are opportunistic agitators. Some anarchists, some white supremacist though that doesn't seem to be nearly as big of a factor, just given the fact that you can almost total up all those in for mothers basements, but they exist, and then you've got this also this condition where? Where we are blind to systemic evils, you put it all together. You can't explain this by right and left PRU treating to the political corners is actually going to guarantee that we're going misunderstand this issue or this set of issues in this whole scenario. The scene that we have and that's going to shade. You know the answer to the question. About which picture is GonNa? You know shape this event. It may be a picture that comes out this week. Maybe a picture that comes up by the time in between the time we record this and the time somebody he listens to it on Saturday. Even better that John so I think, move onto our last story here of the week. I WanNa talk about what's going on in Hong. Kong right now because I think we're talking about pictures that capture moments in history and right now there's a moment history going on in Hong Kong that it seems likely to me. We will remember as momentous and it coincides with the remembrance. Remembrance of another moment in history, which is the Tiananmen Square massacre, June, fourth, nineteen, thousand nine, and there was actually the government of China has made a move to ban gatherings to commemorate Tiananmen Square in Hong Kong so on top of everything else. That's going on there. You know the suppression of pro-democracy protests. The suppression of Religious Liberty, and now this new law that's coming. Coming down the pike that would crack down on an immoral less ban the kind of activism. We've seen in Hong Kong, or make extremely difficult now we have. The government is even forbidding the commemoration of Tiananmen Square and it's extremely Erie because what's going on in Hong. Kong right now is so reminiscent of what went on in Tiananmen Square during the pro democracy protests leading up. Up, to that massacre, and that moment we all remember when the anonymous tank man whose fate is completely unknown, stood there in front of the tank, and refuse to move and became a symbol of the oppression of the Chinese government. Look, we have been talking about this over and over and over and and we've got plenty of things to pay attention to on our own. You know like you said it's as bad as we've seen in our lifetime. I think that's not an understatement. In the an another part of the world discontinues and. It's easy to forget that it was almost like there was a timeout or halftime to this whole story, because of Covid Nineteen, coming out of China, and now the opportunism of the Chinese government again and seizing what they do right, which is control of Mobility, a control national memory, a control of history. This is why history is so important. Let's not forget. It is illegal to talk about the demonstrations in eighty nine in China, so you look and say how bad things are here and we should say things are bad here, but they could be even worse. If folks are concerned about you know certain sorts of government, injustice and Everyone. Who's listen to me? At least have concerned about TSA. There is I snuck it end. Did you like I? Did that I? Think you've snuck TSA into every single broadcast. It's my goal. Can I'm actually quite proud of how successful I've been at this I. Hope you're winning a bet with someone for that. No, it's just scratching my own niche. That's all know. Look what's happening in Hong. Kong is a violation of what was supposed to be a fifty year agreement. It is a few a little bit by a group of people who believe that their conscience belongs to something higher than is using paying. You have a resurrection reincarnation in a sense of of Chairman Mao in the ideology and the behavior of Jingping. This is going to get worse before it gets better tragically and I. Know we're praying as we should. For our country were praying for justice and peace, and we need to direct some of those prayers for our neighbors in Hong, Kong, as well especially the brothers and sisters. We don't have time to get into that right now, but willing to a couple breakpoint commentaries particularly that were. Were reassertion written by Roberto Rivera about the Christian roots of this issue, so make no mistake you don't see religion as the headline of these protest or the Chinese crackdown in Hong Kong you see it obviously with Muslim leaguers and Christians of underground churches, but that's a big part of the story as well well as we have for the last few weeks. We're GONNA play for. For you a segment from our truth, love together virtual event. Normally we're going to start incorporating a little bit of some of the podcast episodes that we've done to just sort of tease the great conversations that we have with our guest there, but this time I wanNA kick it over to John to introduce one of the coolest guests we've had on the truth. Live together. Together event in just a extremely timely talk. That captures so much of what we need to think and be in a time like this well. Andy crouches somebody. I don't always agree with, but I always appreciate I. Feel like he is a honest broker. When it comes to trying to wrestle with Christianity and culture, his categories of thinking have been extremely helpful for a long time. For our truth love together event, which by the way I want to just make sure everyone knows it's not over. This content is there go to conference Colson Center Dot Org then you can just access all the modules, but he'd launches our third module with a remarkable connection of course truth love together. This virtual event was a kind of an online backup plan a sense for wilberforce weekend and he makes. makes a connection with wilberforce. You might remember that Wilberforce said that God had given him to great aims, the abolition of the slave trade in the in the reformation of manners, and we so often chain think about successful heroes in the past and we see their stories as if you know everything. They did happen in the time. Maybe it took to watch a movie two and a half hours and you know. And although we should say that book. Wilberforce movie makes it very clear that things were not quick and easy for Wilberforce No, honestly, this is actually a point that Andy begins his talk making, and it's a profound point for those of us who want to be involved in what God is doing in the world to make all things new as he promised in Christ, Jesus and he actually elevates virtue that we don't talk a lot about, and it's interesting. because. As we have the conversation, we're about to have and again I. Don't want to confuse people with our time. Clock were recording this breakpoint this week podcast on Thursday afternoon Thursday night. Andy and I are going to have a conversation because he's talking in his talk for truth lot together about patients. And we're going to try to connect that to the events of this week. which if there's one thing, people think we can't afford right now. It's patients when it comes to these issues and I don't know how he's going to wrestle through this Shane I don't know I just know that what he does to begin. This truth left together presentation on the kind of people the world needs. Is Biblical and it's an important perspective for those of us who want to be faithful to our cultural moment and the power. The Holy Spirit need to take seriously so with all that we give you Andy Crouch. I'm grateful in one way that I get to speak to you from my living room because I get to show you something that's on the wall in my living room these three frames. Each of them given to me by a friend at a different time, but all of them tell a single story. That's a story of one of the most dramatic cultural transformations of last several centuries. Starts with the top frame which reproduces diary entry from the British safe son, William Wilberforce and seventeen eighty seven, and in it he writes. God Almighty has placed before me two great objects, the suppression of the slave trade and the reformation of manners. Worse wrote this as a young man. Beginning his career in parliament, it took the entire life before the act for the abolition trade was passed. And what happens next is the story of the next frame. It's a painting. The British a naval ship, pursuing a slave ship guns, blazing as this ship, which is part of what was called the Preventive Squadron of the Royal. Navy attempts to actually stamp out that which parliament had made illegal. Because after parliament passed the act for the abolition of the slave trade, it took fifty years to actually end the slave trade across the Atlantic fifty years, a third of the Royal Navy of the of Squadron and seventeen thousand lives of officers and sailors. Incredibly, slow, difficult, unbelievably dangerous work that actually enacted wilberforce his dream. And then the third. Frame has a photograph from our own time of two young. Young folks maybe thirteen years old, and they're from a country which is outlawed slavery for many many decades, but in this country it's still the case that many people are functionally enslaved held by force, not free to leave, not compensated for their labor often as children. And when this practice is discovered, and when the legal system is brought to bear on, it the legal system gives the people who have been functionally enslaved. These certificates manny mission that certify that there's no debt. There's no obligation that can possibly keep them that they are free to go. And these two on children are holding the certificates. Their families have received because they're now free. This is three hundred plus years after Wilberforce wrote his words, and his great object is perhaps only now close to being realized. This is how culture changes. I got thinking about this in a new way. Would I read a book? A couple years ago by the Mennonite historian Alan Kreider. It's called the patient ferment of the early church. The patient ferment of the early church. Kreider picks up on a question raised by the sociologist of Religion Rodney, stark and his book, the rise of Christianity, which is also a terrific book, and that book stark observes that the early church grew between the years one hundred eighty and four hundred eighty by about thirty percent per decade. Decade after decade for three Hundred Years Incredible. quite fast in some ways exponential growth to the point that when Constantine converts perhaps forty to forty five percent of the empire are Christian believers. And Stark asked a question that Kreider picks out. How did this happen? But. Critter focuses the question a bit more, he says. How did this happen without any attempt to evangelize the Roman world? Because in fact, there is no instruction given to the Christians of the first centuries in evangelizing their neighbors, no bishop or priest in the in the early. Church gave any sermons or teachings about evangelism. If you'd ask them well, what about the Great Commission, go into all the world baptizing and making disciples? They would've said yes. The Great Commission was given to the twelve or the eleven, and they went out James went to Spain and Thomas went to India and they would've said the apostles did what Jesus told them. They went into all the world and so check. It's done. They actually didn't pick up on that text as a kind of mandate for everyday Christians activity. The crater observes that there was a topic that every bishop around the Mediterranean rim made sure that his people were taught. We have treatises kind of in-depth teaching documents on this topic, not on evangelism, but on a different topic. And the topic was patients. Patients was something every early Christian bishop fought. It was essential to teach his people the people under his care and a form in them. And The story that Alan Kreider tells the story of what he calls patient ferment because patients led to fermentation, slow, often, invisible, organic and relentless growth. The early church grew through patient ferment. I us to think about what this means for. Our Dreams are great objects and our vision of cultural transformation in our time. And our time is complicated by the fact that we no longer primarily think about fermentation. Because, it's been replaced by something else even just when you look at the beverages we consume. Beverages we consume now benefit from another process modern process, an industrial process called carbonation. CARBONATION is a way of injecting into a liquid These little bubbles of dissolved carbon dioxide that when you open the soda can or the bottle. They start to bubble out, and you get that wonderful effervescence that in the ancient world happens through the activity of yeast, turning sugars into alcohol with carbon dioxide is product, but we now know how to just directly inject through very in a sense, simple complex to us, but simple to engineers process. The LONZO staff carbonated beverages whenever we want to have that fizz whenever we want and to get it without anything firm enting. Now if you don't drink alcohol for one another, this is good news. But I think it's dangerous. If our metaphor for life becomes carbonation rather than fermentation. carbonation quick, industrial reliable, predictable scales really well. Fermentation slow organic mysterious, often invisible takes a long time. which is our picture of Cultural Change? A lot hinges on whether we have a carbonation picture of how culture changes. Or fermentation picture. And of course, Jesus taught a lot about this and he always used. Fermentation has his his picture of how the kingdom grows used organic metaphors, agricultural metaphors. Yeast worked into a loaf wine that expands inside a wine skin very slowly. Or not. Fermentation directly been organic metaphor. The small seed that grows until suddenly it's it's a Bush big enough for tree big enough for birds to nest. This is not the way we think about culture. But it is the way culture actually grows at its best. I wrote a book called Culture, making a number of years ago now and when I started writing I thought I would write about creativity and creation, because I was really interested in cultural creatives, the kinds of people who bring new things into being in the world and I still think that's an image bearing thing to do. But my mind was changed about culture as I sat down to ask. What does the Bible? Say about the essence of good culture. And when I read. The Bible through a Cultural Lens I actually found that I was reading about not creation, primarily, not total innovation and brand new things. But something else that I came to call cultivation. The patient tending of the world, the Lord God put the man in the garden to till it and keep it to tend it and keep it to cultivate it. God in the Biblical story is the creator of all things. Human beings are placed within God's creation to tend it and keep it. And when you start thinking about the very best things in our world, things that culture has given us that are the treasures of human achievement in a way, the treasures of human beings, tending and keeping the world. They have this quality of patients. All of our greatest agricultural heritage is the olive groves the Middle East, the vineyards of southern Europe and the Mediterranean. The architecture of much of the world, all these forms of culture actually grew very slowly. Many of the greatest buildings in the world took multiple generations to complete. An Olive Tree doesn't even start bearing a single olive for about eight years, and then it can bear for hundreds of years, so you have to learn how to pass on that Olive Grove from generation to generation. Culture is most of all about cultivation. Now we think well, but something's happening culture very quickly, and of course that's true, but most of the things that happened quickly and culture within the span of a single generation, or even in the span of a couple of days happen. Most of the things that happen quickly actually are. Damaging things detrimental things. The only thing that could really do with Rome in a day. What can you do is roam in a day. You can burn it. Can Burn it in roughly a day. How long does it take for notre? Dame cathedral, which took generations to build to be nearly destroyed one overnight fire. and. People sometimes ask me well, you know. What's how? How do you change culture? How do you change the world? And one answer is, it's pretty simple. It only takes twenty one men, four plans and one morning, and you can change the course of history. But then you realize Oh, what you're really asking us. How do I change the world for the better? How do I bring about beneficial change in the world? And that you can't do quickly. That was a clip from Andy crouches. Truth loved together. Talk the people. The world needs come to conference DOT Colson Center. Dot Org to register for our free online event and hear the rest of this and many other outstanding talks by Christian worldview thinkers. That's Conference Dot Colson Center Dot Org. It's time again for what is rapidly becoming John One of my favorite segments here on the program. It's q a favorite because it makes me squirm like you know. I'm going to turn around and make you answer some of these questions I get to read these questions, John and I just oftentimes just keep the wording because it makes you squirm so much. Switch you in the hot seat and you have to I see this conferences though too when you come up lineup, and there's questions and I don't know how you do it. Because people want you to explain the problem of evil and suffering and quick soundbite, and it's like what can I have some prep time for that, but I do. chuckles in and Ravi Zachariah. I've already okay before they passed away and it's just what you do well. If that's what you do, then I can probably get that down. Just memorize some good chunks of both of their books. We get questions from our listeners here and we're getting quite a few now, and they're exciting questions. Good questions they stretch us and make. Make us. Talk and think about things that we may not otherwise talk and thinking about many of them are of course responses to commentaries that we've done and to podcast interviews that we've done, and we've got one here. That is gonNA. Probably ruffle some feathers on both sides. No matter what we say and I'm just GONNA. Read it here for John. Our listener says I saw president trump. Hold up the Bible in front of the cameras and you say that when he did that, he was using it as a prop. Isn't that just your opinion? Do you know what's in his heart? And Mind and soul? What was in his heart and mind when he did that I found disappointing that you singled him out. That is not what we're called to do. Well this is in response to a commentary. I did on Wednesday entitled don't use the Bible as the Bible is not a prop I think is what we called it, and we'll link to it, and people can read it in its entirety and again. I, you know. Nobody else had a hand in this one. This was completely mine and I'll be happy to to own it off. And this was a question that we got probably from five or six people in different way since so we could have picked five or six different questions like this and many of them did refer to that. Had what was in his heart and soul, and let me hit this a couple of different ways. The first thing is is I didn't assume in my thinking of this or the commentary that I did know what was in his heart and soul, and there's is a mistake. I think we make when we assume that if somebody has good intention than the outcome, therefore is somehow justified at the behavior, somehow justified, and that's not true. You can have every good intention in the world and still use the Bible as a prop I. Think I've been guilty of doing that on Sunday mornings preaching or probably you know trying to correct my kids and use a Bible verse for a little extra. Leverage point so intention is not something that I was addressing, and we'll also mentioned a little bit that i. don't know what was in his heart and soul, and neither does anyone who is defending the president and what he did. We don't know neither one of us do, and so it's not necessarily a fair thing to say that I assume bad motives, and that's not okay. If you're sending good motives, right, we just don't know I. was addressing in and of. Of itself, and the main point of the commentary was much deeper than any of this I mean none of that was actually assumed I did use the word prop because that's what ended up. I think emerging in the story, but I also don't think it was nearly as big of a deal as the media made of it, and I also will be the first one to say that had he opened up the Bible and read it. Which is what I? Wish, he would have done. which is what I said in the commentary and I'll get to that. In just a second, he would have been widely criticized and denounced them. We would have the same breathless headlines only having to do with trump's trying to issue an usher in a theocracy right. The media is not treating this fairly this not treating any of it fairly when we still don't I'm not ready to make a call on. You know people ask about well. You know how he moved protesters and that and there's different stories going back and forth on this between the federalist and national media I'm willing to say I. Don't know the details of that. Here's what I do know and this is. What was really the heart of the point. That I was trying to make and probably could have made better. Admit was simply this. In the Bible. We get the only and what I mean by. This is the only in human history. Categories of human dignity justice reconciliation forgiveness. It's only in the Bible that you get this. It's only in the Bible that you love your enemies. It's only in the Bible that you don't look down on people because they're poor because they're not like you. Only the Bible not only does it say it because other books say it, but I'm talking about in the history of the thought of the world as Luke Ferry has pointed out eighth. Eighth IUS philosopher the University of Paris, frigid nature of the great atheist philosopher pointed out, and as others have pointed out, this is where you get the categories of human dignity and human justice and human value. This is where you get those categories, so the Bible has so much to offer this cultural moment. It has everything this cultural moment needs, and that's what I think. We should awe you. As. We look at scripture, and that's why I quoted Thomas Cram near the Anglican theologian. You know who's wonderful prayer is that. God has given us all of holy scripture for own learning, and for our betterment, and so we need to to listen. I can't remember. He's four great verbs in that prayer, Shaneco, if you remember what it is. Better have good verbs. He wrote the book of Common Prayer so I imagine he put it very low. It's like here mark and my favorite inwardly digest the words of scripture. What a moment and through history as many times as a picture has moved history, also these kind of fundamental biblical ideas emerge especially in American history and shape our understanding of a moment, and that's the opportunity we have right now that the Bible has given. All of humanity a gift. which is a grounding for human dignity, so we now have a culture that loves human dignity, but once to get rid of what it's grounded in. And, it's not gonNA work, and that's what we see so in my mind. It was a missed opportunity I. Don't think it's like an unforgivable sin never said that I also don't think it's something that he did that. Is nearly as bad as what everyone is saying. I think we need to look inside the scripture. That was the moment that was the opportunity, and it would have been great so I think it was pretty cheap. We have to draw a line at some point and say that a president you using religion or any public figure using religion as a prop using scripture as a prop is distasteful at the and people said well. What about you know? It's the what about you know Nancy Pelosi and here's what I say. Say. It's tasteful. John Because, trump is not just politician who has you know promoted himself as a cynically virtuous person, or as just a good leader? He someone who has really claimed the name of Christianity and that you know he claims that the Bible is his favorite book even and then when asked what his favorite, versus it was painfully obvious that he didn't study for the exam. He never read the thing, but you know so. There's a point at which you're claiming something and using and exploiting it fully knowing that people will receive this as know. This is our man. This is our guy and it. It becomes cynical. It becomes distasteful and potentially I think there is a point at which may even become blasphemous so well. Yeah, I mean look I'm not ready to make that claim I think you know how much thought went into this? What was the calculation? Probably not much well there you go, but you know what, and as I began the the commentary politicians, and even presidents using the Bible at strategic times for their own purposes, one remembers Bill Clinton. One Remembers I. Mean Like it's been done before, and it will be done again, and it's been done by people who actually do take the Bible seriously. I seem to remember a certain very early on in American. History used the Bible to make Confetti. Thomas Jefferson Thomas Jefferson that was a different guy to prop. He was using it for party apparently, but yeah, it's part of our national conscience, and that's actually one of the things that's unique about America in some ways, but at the same time. Yeah, that's why I didn't see it. As. Agree Gis or as a out of the ordinary. and to me, it was just as agreed just the next day. When the episcopal leadership in Washington DC got up and defended the Bible the Bible that they had twisted and used in order to advance their own cause of. What isn't dikeman on our nation as a whole, we've got a president who doesn't know the Bible holding one. He doesn't own in front of a church. That doesn't really care what it says I mean. That's the best imagery that we can come up with this and we've had a I. Don't WanNa say these three that I'm thinking Michael Curry you know the presiding head of the episcopal, church and then you had the bishop of Washington DC, and then you had the angle picture of these people right? Oh look. I'm Anglican and people say you're pissed. Cappella, you know. I still believe the Bible, and I'm still a Christian I mean. I'm not just saying that I'm not saying that to be you know snarky or Snide I, actually you know tone that way down just because again, the desire to be charitable, but it is disingenuous to pretend that that church with the Bible says that church leading theologians in that church. have an not actually would be running theologians leading authorities in that church. Have called the Bible Homophobic. The Form Has denied the resurrection explained Michael Peri Affirms The resurrection I did see that, but his predecessor at the National Cathedral. Actually said that pulse should not have cast the demon out of the slave girl, because it robbed her of authentic spirituality I mean look. You can't make this stuff up, so pretend like. Don't use my sacred tradition. What's sacred tradition? You're making it up as you go anyway, so it was a missed opportunity. That's what I'm ready to say. I'm not ready to know insinuate that I know what any motives were, but I just know man look and all of human history, the only source the authority to source ever solved the race. Problem is the Bible. That's just what we're missing and the only one that tells you to forgive your enemies like this. Is the Bible. There's just nothing like it, and that's what we need more than anything. Are, John We have time for another question here and this question I think many people struggle with, and it's a question. It's often difficult to struggle with in devout Christian circles, because it expresses a certain level of doubt and expresses a certain level of uncertainty, but we need to be able to as we talked about last week. Wrestle with these down, so here's an paraphrasing here. Because this was a very long email quote throughout this person's troubled by disagreements among Christians they. They listened to a lot of podcasts. You're a lot of unsettling debates between devout Christians and this is a quote. In most cases, the Christian proponents seem to have genuine love for Jesus and are trying to live out their belief faithfully yet their conclusions of interpretation of scripture, often diametrically opposed if intelligent well educated sincere Christians could come to such different interpretations of scripture. How can I possibly hope to come to a correct understanding of the truth, and does it even matter? Well, yeah, it does matter. That's the easy answer. Can we move on? It doesn't matter truth matters and I know this person thinks that I think even the pursuit. This is what we see in Psalm one that the pursuit of truth matters, even if you don't actually ever get there, hanging out with the people who care about the truth, being on kind of the path of truth, actually forms you, it makes you a kind of a wise person, and that's why I think humility is so often the mark of wisdom that we see I wanNA also encourage this person because the question was sincere Christians, come to such different interpretations of scripture. I was grateful for one of my mentors. Who wants pointed out. If you actually look at the totality of Christian belief, particularly those things that are uniquely Christian beliefs, it's not add on's of political things or anything like that, but just what Christians believe across the spectrum at least within the main line of what it means, you know those who would kind of be in the fold so to speak. To us, the questioners phrase sincere Christians with a genuine love for Jesus trying to live out their belief. Faithfully we agree on ninety five percent of those things you know I, mean look. We fight over interpretations of Scripture when it comes to you know. How much do we put into responding to the Gospel? And how much are we elected? But we all agree that were only saved in Christ. We all agree that we can't do anything for our own sin. Is the Holy Spirit manifesting himself in this way or that way. We all agree that there is a Holy Spirit. We often forget about them. As Francis Chan, I think wrote, a book called the forgotten God, but we agree on almost everything that he does convicts us of comforts us. Helps US points us. The Truth Unites The body of Christ and so on and so on, and so on in other words and easy to get caught up in those. Sorry, it's easy to get caught up in those controversies. Controversies and they loom large and they they look very intimidating, and they are in some cases intimidating and they've. It should very much concern us, but at the same time it's easy to forget this vast body of doctrine that Unites Christians in the form of the great creeds, and the things that we agree on about who God is and who Jesus is, and what the relationship between the two is, and what he came to do for us, and even to an extent how that happens. Those are things that. That, we all agree on as freely Orthodox. Christians and the the lines that we here at the Colson Center would draw to when it comes to whether it's employment or or the people we invite on speaking tours or the wilberforce weekend. We want people who affirmed these basic truths of the Christian faith. Those Catholic little see truths. Yeah, all Christians have in common and you know two things are mentioning one is is I. Don't know this from this question, but my guess is if it wasn't in this questioners. Questioners question. It's in some people that are listening and that is, but we do disagree widely on whether trump's are good president or a bad president and people who both Jesus, or whether we should do this or this you know whatever and I would just those are the loudest disagreements right now, but they don't have to do with the interpretation of scripture they have to do with the application of the motor referral in many ways. Yeah, and that brings up the second thing which is, they should stay peripheral. They should not be central and this is really where I haven't been willing. Where some of my friends to condemn. I agree with them. Maybe on certain political things and my friends see bad motives. They see another Christians bad people because they don't come to the same conclusions. I just think we've got to be a lot more charitable than that. Even though I think they're wrong and I think that they're wrong enough on important enough issues that I'll go toe to toe, but it takes me back to something father. Chirico the ACTON institute said we've got to be. Be Ruthless with ideas, but gentle with people. How much more so those within the body of Christ and so I guess in summary Number. One is we don't disagree on nearly as much as we think. We're louder on the things that we disagree on. Sometimes we shouldn't be and that's different than actually disagreeing on the things that matter you know, and so anyway I. Think it's just important to put that in perspective, but it's a great question and. Especially after this week, I just want the question or to know. I feel this pain. Personally. It was a rough week. As far as that goes, so our next question is. SHOULD WE BAPTIZE BABIES? No we won't. We won't fight about that one here. Actually you and I agree on that one, but we won't talk about it. 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2020 Red Bud 1 MX Post-Race Interviews

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2020 Red Bud 1 MX Post-Race Interviews

"Pro Circuit racing based in Corona California and founded in nineteen. Seventy eight by Mitch Payton is known for two things building high quality horsepower and winning races. The named Pro Circuit has worldwide recognition that you have bought the best, and we strive to get you the very best products for your bike from two strokes to four engine porting suspension. In our top rated exhaust bronx, we cover it off and take a look at our own twenty twenty roster consisting of Austin Faulkner Garrett, March banks Jordan Smith, and Cameron mcadoo visit pro circuit dot com for more info on all the services and products pro circuit. Ram It first time I talked to a good day for you. Five seventh, which should do better than seventh over all but no, you got seventy five seven. Yeah I. Mean I definitely good didn't actually really get after the greatest start but I kinda snuck through that in the first couple of corners but second moto there was just some lines that I didn't quite have. I wasn't hitting the leap which was kind of not in my favor and So yeah, I mean, that was kind of a bummer to go five seven seventh over all but we'll take it and and learn some stuff for next couple of days. Was it a track change that you didn't like or some lines or a bike set-up or what do you think happened there Changed a little bit with the bike and. I didn't go in the right direction and I think I possibly made the wrong tire choice for motor to and So I think maybe a little make sure those things and then just you know I was over on the track I think when it got slick I overriding in a little bit so Yeah. We'll reevaluate for Monday. You've been happy with the star to your. Yeah I mean I mean it's been up and down. Last week. It was a bummer being on the ground, the first corner and stuff, but still road well come up. And then the second mode I had a crash like towards the end went back fifteen against best sock but Yeah. We had some good runs at Loretta is and I feel like I've been. Like. Being around that seventh areas annoying it really is it's really frustrating. Last year I was stoked on that. Now it's like I'm. Bridging the gap to the front guys I, need to be able to consistently do it and. A lot of it's you know just being smarter and I'm learning it, but it takes some time but I really feel like when I do ride well, I bridge that gap to the to that front four guys or five guys in and I don't want to be back there. You know in the seventh eighth area like the difference being forty five seconds south leave at the end or or ten seconds feels a lot different so so. We're GONNA continue to try and work to stay stay right there with those guys. Because last year I remember you got two six, T T L D and it was like the career-best and you crushed it and here we are one year later how things have changed yeah exactly. For sure and and like. You know six, seven, eight right in that top ten area but. Now I mean even I. I think we say every year it's like do to so stack it. I mean I feel like I'm one of the stacked cots you know I don't feel like it's all man I'd have a disadvantage or you know looking at anyone else I mean I think Dylan is definitely. Really good right now but Jamar Jeremy's proved to be you know he's won the last I think six motives, five minutes. So he's those two are really good but I feel like there's a lot of us in that that same kind of area where it's like getting a good start is so crucial. So that's one of my main focus points moving forward is just to put myself in good position if I can see leaders at the. I'll be happy. What about the racing here on Friday in the fall Heard two guys on the podium in both classes. Make mention that it wasn't a typical. Red, Bud What did you think of all that? Yeah It's kind of a bummer. The weather is it's tough because. In seventy degrees awesome effort not not for me. I don't I don't like it because it I think it opens up a lot of potential for a lot of writers which I understand that. But that's kind of part of the national like it's so. I think there's a lot of dudes that can do really well with this but I think one of my strong points is when it's ninety five and we're twenty minutes into the second mode or even the first motor, it's really tough and it you have to be super strategic with you know how you manage your food and how It's like almost like a strategy game outdoors, and then when you know the tracks pretty smooth which it actually turned out to be fairly rough rougher than I thought it was going to. But you know when it's seventy degrees, it's it really opens up a whole nother world who could stay up there is a good point. All right. Thanks around. Thank you. All right. Justin Bogle red. Bud. Look Man little tired out there. There's no doubt but you gotta start somewhere and putting two models in the points for a guy like you that's that's start. Yes. You're probably pissed but it's a start. Yeah it's it's tough. You know it's it's really tough for me because I have one these before. So man, it's. It's a very different thing right now where I'm at. Completely took time away from the sport for I don't know four or five months and. This start to come back and do it's tough classes really really tough right now and. I'm making progress it. It looks really bad but I'm I'm making progress like you said, I was really. Does the last four or five laps. We're really tough on me. That's Ikemoto but. I don't know man I'm I'm getting a little bit better here and there just I score points both motives which sounds nuts to say to be happy about that. But it's the first time. I've done it this season. So I will have to just take that and if I need something to hang onto you so I'll hold onto that. I don't know man I go back to the drawing board but the board so big and I don't have a marker it's like. I'm in like one of those situations. You really make big gains when you're racing every week, you don't right now you don't and and I think it's pretty obvious that I wasn't super ready to go racing but it is what it is. The Ray started I decided to come back and do this stuff so. It's just GONNA be gnarly I. Hate I feel like I just sound so redundant Jessica I gotTa Build. But dammit, I got a bill I don't i. don't know what else to do i. was just about writing a dirt bike. I'd be fine. So everybody else in the pits but. It's a lot more to it at this level. It's tough. What's I think? Good for you is you've literally been spot before you were there after the GR thing I don't know if this injury was worse or whatever. But you've been here before rebuilding stuff getting points in both motos, etc etc. I've done this exact same before which I mean unfortunately I have been through it before but I guess fortunately because I do know that I came out the other side of it. In due time and again. The JR thing was that year was so bad. It was about like this year went for me I mean it was. Pretty. Bad. So this year is really bad as well but. I've been through it I got through it. Damn it they say, what don't kill you make you stronger. So I'm GonNa, just keep on keeping on man I don't know what else to do stuff is supposed to It'll make of for sure dealing with these ups and downs early coaster of a sport that we're in this is life you know it's just. It's difficult for some people. You know what I'm saying and I feel like I've had it pretty tough but I think a lot of those. CAN'T BLAME ANYONE FOR IT I've made mistakes I've done things that maybe shouldn't have done decision. Wise So. It is what it is. S-. Keep on keeping. FIT and today's start of something, and then we got to two more days and then hopefully do it again and maybe say next week you go thirteen thirteen or something and you just go from there and we've seen it before and I like I said before that sounds it's tough to say that now but I mean dude reality is reality I'm not ready to be a front guy right now there's just no no way so. That understanding is makes it a little bit easier to? Get through the week if if I didn't understand the process and how this thing works getting through the week would be hell. So. Sorry man. It looks bad. I know people are talking a lot of stuff on the people in my DSL desert my ride, and at the end of the day, you know whatever maybe not. But. I'm Cheyenne. Man I'm shy. It's all I could do. It thanks for doing this Upper Shit and nice job. Thanks. Christian CRAG. Fell in the first Moto I think at some point I think you might default the second one to a little bit or you lost some spots drastically somewhere. Yeah. It was a good starts finally. I've been lacking that it's usually my strong point. So really focused on the starts today and it worked on, came out third both motos and then What? Step Up. Back. Why Oh? Sorry. But. Yeah, it was okay it was. Consistent. Day nothing too crazy. But I did run up front for a while, which is which was my goal. My goal is five through ten in it. I. Guess I achieved that today is seventy eight for seventh overall track. WHO's GNARLY I don't think anybody's bike. You could ask everybody everybody kind of struggle with their bike set-up. The bumps were weird. So you're like the third or fourth goddess kind of told me that. Is it was at the time of year was the track prep like what was different because it did look super rough specially in the second moto, but it didn't look different to me. It's like they dug it but not deep enough to where like Red Bud is like muddy in the morning and then it has those deep rats where this one didn't. So the bumps were hard but. Like Steve in a way. So it just through your bike every which way in and I think, yeah everybody Kinda struggle with the setup. I went the wrong way with it for the second and you know that's my fault but luckily right here in two days so we can try to figure that out. The suspension Guy Shane one, hundred percent I really do. Chassis. The. Chassis Guy. I blame the chassis got I model was that you and Eli for a little bit there I think was it i Moto Yeah Awesome I was pretty good. I I'm pretty good I I just held them off as long as I couldn't I tipped over I hit a rock so. it was just good to run up there I ran third and fourth for a while, and then just battle with those guys which might go every weekend. And so far through the start. Obviously, we had to crappy ones with the but what do you think overall? How's it been? Good. I mean most consistent so far I mean I yeah. I have a gold is be inside the top ten emoto and and besides the first round it's been pretty close so Good but I know I need to be better Just I WANNA be right inside like the five seven I think consistently is realistic on a good day. So we're we're getting closer. To four fifty and I'm sure you'll be for twenty twenty one because this is the star of four fifty career right right i. mean you never know I that's where I wanna be I wanna be four fifty but you know you never know in the in the future so we'll see. A, nice job. Thank you. Thanks. All right hundred Lawrence first of all I want to apologize. For the pre-race taxed. You know just just try is really concerned for your well being. Yeah I. Always, soda you know feeling, gave it this source and qualifying I was feeling good. You know like. Top Ten you know obviously would often been further up the board but. Always feeling good. You know I fly was good balance everything and I'm like I'll. Like wouldn't love to authorize I knew you were talking about the fantasy. Knew it. And then I can third my whole come off before it was over the gate and crashed on the first lap down in the corner. Full Iraq is to kind of shut myself in the foot with the source. And then. I felt like I fought Sarhadi and had a sick ride a riding was good and getting better shoulders holding up really well today it's the best. It's felt since before the injury so. I think go back to nineteen assuming. A serious. I thought our Jerkin like frigging punch in the not stood second Marta just start noted good start again locked just beside the Yamaha powerhouse and Alex Alleyways. Bag Cement. You know so that socked and. Marked off that star which fricken felt like it was. Just. Dude. I. frigging cotton no excuses. Main Jeremy's getting Staudt. So that's probably the most frustrating thing is when he's getting starts in your sock and Yet. But now writing was good I frigging pasta a Lotta guys and got off behind jet at one point, and then we kind of. Pasta off way and we would just I mean we picked off. Like Mumford. And Katie I'm trying. I believe it was. Dry. Brown a hot dry hot draft. And Yeah I didn't get hot. Off But. It was good ride. You know I came from well outside the top twenty back up to ten. Sorry that that was a little more promising, always the move and. And yes are I think there's a lot of positives to take it out of this weekend I just got. Off, and just fuck it and discharged for next week on this this. Yeah. Exactly. Right. In two days Just. Shoulder said it's better. It felt feels it but does it hurt? You still does still bug you out there No it doesn't. It's. It's good like. FREAKING I wanted to quit off the Loretta Lynn's always frigging over NOCCO. That was my season done to. It was probably one of the lowest times in my career and thankfully the ligaments and everything or it was just a freak position that shoulder Gordon and just popped out. So we've been building it and rehabbing end, and it wasn't that it was hurting. It was just restricting me. You know it was it was blocked not strong. It was week and it was just you know it's always in the back of your head like cheese it felt bulletproof before the incident started. Now it's a little, not one hundred percent and and. You kinda like just a little conservative. But not tonight fell awesome. It didn't restrict me in any way. So I'm really happy with that. We've been working even harder to get the showed up back to one hundred percent and we have. So I'm pretty sure I'm pretty happy with. I wrote about you this week on one of my columns and I was saying like for a guy, who's you know world class level you've been injured for a couple of supercross is you got in now you've got the shoulder thing that happened it didn't even happen with a crash. Your time in American here I don't know if we've seen the real hunter Lawrence just yet. No Dude. Pro that's probably the most. Painful thing about me myself right now is fact that I just fricken couldn't borlaug to save myself. You know I mean if I didn't have bad locked and I'd have no luck at all like. It's just a fricken character building and it's just tested me like a hopefully I can get them all out of the way before where it really matters in the full fifty close because ultimately that's that's the end goal in are we get caught up in in a little white Kloss Lauda and that's I just want to be in the big boy close. I'm just dude it's Talaq Korea's going I'm still super young. That's the right off go tight in Serbia. I'm not the only one that's had a tough with injuries. The Second Moto you're following jet through the pack you guys were pretty much linked up for a long time like you mentioned. What's that like when it's your brother and you've written somebody with them and all of that like it visit help or hurt because you know I'm thinking it could hurt because you could have a chance to get them but maybe you don't WanNa go right in there if he screws up or something or could it could help because you're like, Hey, man I know I can get super close to this guy and we're we're good. So I don't what is that like? Yes I like for tonight for example, in the position I'm in right now it's. It's good to see him because I caught him from quite a few guys back. So when I called in my eye new, he's obviously really foster. No, he's going forward as well as all right. Cool. That's good. You know. I'm a my writings coming back because I. Still am a little bit playing catch up I. Mean I really had seven months off the block six, seven months the bike with my knee and shoulder injury or about the preseason. So I'm playing catch up and. So. It's not my head like old maybe dive in here. I mean, he knows on my dad knows racing is racing. You know at the end of the day if. If somewhat if someone's being dick to him on the track and ban dirty to him, it'll be in the back of more and more when I come that go out. But if it's if it's him Kastenmaier on him, it's it's racing nothing more. You know like all obviously. A main the winds on the line I'll clean out. But I'm not that kind of Guy Anyway I'm not looking to clean people out to make passes. Thank you matt. Thanks about. Jet Lawrence Hey Second Moto your brother in you I don't know if you knew it was him but that was cool to watch because the together. Yeah it's. Amazing how good he's doing especially like two weeks ago having shoulder basically popped out Did. He's one tough loss dude. That's. Saw Non definitely happened only possible. Be Him because fuck like Easter. Out of him and deal, and they're the only two respectful really and and J. J. brought on. Sometimes. All The Times I WANNA kill but. No it's It was good to see him out they on gays feet again and no I'm definitely happy to see the against. He's had a frigging rough rough years. That's definitely one of the toughest guys out there. That's for sure but motor was pretty good. Good start ran a front. Yes. I was frigging Min I got a good star get around the first turn. Moss while I. Don't know where that came from. It's like he's on a cheetah black almost decided click threes gone out of a ton. And can drop the hammer in the first you last thought on it took me awhile in the first few laps as the first few lines I didn't pick up on that I need to pick up on. So little, bum why that's why posse times box once I found those lines, I was able to keep up with. RJ. On a mission was really good in that first motives he was on a mission. I tried staying with him. And I was able to stick with him. I had a few mistakes dropped off If I, stayed with him. I would mosque will also and I was hoping if I was close enough to maybe get both on the last Latte, I wasn't able to do it but no I definitely again, more improving more and more. This close to getting on podium. So I just need A. Day will come with getting on the podium hopefully soon, I'm just GONNA keep trying my hundred percent like always doing this. Yeah make sure excel and everything do get good start. Make sure my last my fitness is fine like the. I mode I came in I barely felt poff like I. I'd even get ties is trying to get that I speed often that stuff with a few things but. Not The second one. was feeling really good and then with two laps to gus muscles is like almost cramped up. And I just because I was pulling Jay coupon and Wackos was hoping I could maybe get two and one on the last lap but I'm also cramped up and Yeah. I tried pushed aside making more mistakes. Smart thing to do is just back down of it and finished instead of trying to push in. And gone over the Baas again, you were a guy thought to. Think about that leap we saw troll train do it and then Yamaha's and that's it. Yeah. That second one I thought of it hard. I've. Seen, Katie. I'm like dude. I. Thought About so hard on my. Did it. Yeah. I've seen a derrick. Okay. Yeah but I thought so hard on my I don't WanNa hit it in case then blow out a front wheel back wheel. That's my race done. So My. IRA lose a few tenths or seconds from that not hitting that and try and get somewhere else. But Yeah it was a bit of a game like, Oh, I should I hit it should I not I don't Wanna eat crap in case it. Goes Yeah. What you think a Red Bud first time here. It's pretty cool check. I. Love. The track is sucks. I didn't get to really experience the fans but Hunt. I was Kinda gone off hunters information being like two years now and I said that it's not as same as the GP's Fans Steph Freaking Wall does yours todd to beat them by said is pretty cool socks that we couldn't do it on fourth of July and that but. I with this on famously thankful that will lead to race here at least with this pandemic, it's It's hard to beat fans who blast techno and have chainsaws in the pits. It's just tough to beat that yet. That's that's hard I'm not how they get the chain. Sauteed. Nobody knows. All right. Thanks yet. Probably go on. Our Carson Mumford read but I think you've had a nice start to the year maybe not exactly where you want to. But today probably was the race you didn't really WanNa have yes there was definitely my worst day so far qualifying wasn't very good the times we're close today besides fantasy was completely gone from the rest but almost three seconds faster. Yeah. If I was not even a second faster I would have been eighth in I was I think thirteenth or something but I. Was Pretty Bad. It's actually taking me longer to learn these tracks than I thought. It would just with the lines and how develops a I really thought I would. Be More adaptable but it actually has been a struggle for me. So I've been trying to wash four fifty guys and stuff in between and I think that's helping but. Yeah Sorta do you mean like Not In qualifying for so much. What do you mean just like even the race where you're still learning the track like in modal one, you know halfway through or something yeah. Pretty much like it seeing the same as last weekend I was kind of uncomfortable all the way until halfway in the first moto and then something clicked and I started writing way better and same with today it was I I made a good last lap pass on Pearson that put me in the fourteenth or something. I think fourteenth but. Yeah, it was like I I needed a forty five minute moto to even. Start going but Sakamoto start was better still. The top ten and it seemed like I was looking around and everybody that was in front of me was really good. So I'm like Dang I got my work cut out. then. It was like a train of geico guys. Besides J, he was way up front and I think got Shimoda and almost put a pass on one hundred dollars for your side by side into a corner and went over the bars and got stuck on the side of a roller and took me forever to get up which was terrible. I went back to the twenty third or something and then. Work my way back up to seventeen but. Yeah it's just not the day I wanted, but I feel like as a rookie sometimes, you have to learn the hard way and that's basically how today went. Your starts have been a major positive for you. You know this year coming in this one was not. Terrible says I did kind of lay lan like. I knew those inside gates if you didn't get a good start and with the mud race kind of unknown, your technique Kinda goes out the window and I banked on that went inside and was pretty good Obviously I fit in that First Moto the Second Loretta and then Armando last weekend I slide up inside I was in between I think to us and I kind of just got pinched second motor lined up pretty far outside and I I was probably like eleven or so but. It's crazy. 'cause people say all the time. Oh. You're starts were so good as an amateur will every guy on the line there starts were amazing. Is Name Richard so and they have great bikes also yeah, it's no one you have no advantage like adult everybody's pretty much on plainfield someone might have something a little bit better at a certain race but yeah. Everybody online has pulled whole shots as amateur and pro so. It's something I definitely need to figure out. It's it's terrible for yourself in that back backpack. But I definitely learned a lot and I'm excited for Monday. What What do you think about the short sprint short span between races refined affect you I think it's I think it's fine It's normally we practiced like a day or two after, and we feel fine. Then obviously, the atmosphere is a little different but I am excited that I get to ride the track twice red buds gnarly tracking everybody around me is like Oh rough the track and I'm like I have no idea. It could be rough. It could be smooth like, yeah. It's rougher than anything that I've really road but is that like a real red bud but Yeah, just just learning that every race. What the leapt giant up I did I it up but. The team Kinda told me that they have had some issues with writers, frame, casing it, and blowing out wheels and they're like listen. It's a might be a little faster but. There's also that chance of not making it you have to do everything right I heard that they might change the the run up to it for Monday. And, if it's any easier, I'm for sure sending it because today I was on the verge of hidden it. But I think only like five guys hit all day I. Don't think too many sheltering did which surprised the hell out of me he didn't last year I. I don't think no. No, he didn't hit last year I got mad at him in this. Yeah I. Definitely will be cool because there's a lot of fans right there. furnish jumped over my head one time in the place when nuts so I would like to do that. No problem. Freddie. Red Bud bummer. But First Moto starts have been there for the bike issue I, think in the first moto. Yeah. Unfortunately, we had some some issues with the bike, but I mean overall. I'm happy with my writing today start food. Good. Well, obviously second starting wasn't that great I was thirty, eight, thirty, nine, th gate bake. So I was back there feel pulled out. Okay. Though yeah I was like twelve maybe something so I mean it was good considering I was was awesome I'm like I'm on my have this one it will slow in the corner I think Osborne had in someone else I was like third so. Pumped on that. Pass by a couple of guys like right away roller tents and start letting loose and they'll certain feel and then unfortunately we had love Lou issue but overall, it was for me as far as writing. It's still a progress like it's still progressing some happy with that. Obviously not the result. Wanted. Necessarily but I'm looking forward to, Monday we did some good changes today. I'm happy with the by happy with the team and everything. In general working. Great. So I'm pump for Monday on like just weird stuff happening unfortunately but. Nice to be here on Nice Cool Day right? That's weird. It was nick is awesome. Almost hold out. Like This is so weird have. Often, I'm happy. Didn't have a mud race without good so. You're good here like on. Honda. Put some good rides. Red Bud. Yeah I'm normally pretty consistent on this track. But. I wanted to do better than did now. But yeah, I mean it's like to track I think. Most riders do like this track. He has a lot of cool elements to it. The dirt's good. Mid Do a good job with prepping track, and obviously normally the fans are breaking wild and crazy. That's cool. So yeah, I like coming here it's nice. To have been pretty good. Let's keep that up. We'll see on Monday. Yeah. Let's get a hold shot Monday. Thank you. Just in Rodbell look we knew you could run the MoD you. You know you've been good Indiana. All that kind of stuff but today was really impressive. Man Great Work. Yeah I. Think I went sixteen fifteen on the day. which. Hell, we're just trying to be in the top of the top twenty all weekend. So we met our goals honestly surprised by surprise myself in the motives. Generally get too tired. I was able to push so. Right now, fitness feels pretty good So we'll just keep working and Work on fitness and try to get better. Beautiful data ride to read but in the fall, it's a nice day overall. Yeah. I think it's like seventy five degrees right now it's beautiful so As that house good starts both motos. Yeah. The Second Start I. got a little wild and went left instead of right So if I see, okay, I saw a guy do that I was you that was knee hard left instead of right so. We keep it straight and go. Right. We might be up in the mix. You must have made some moves in somewhere early because you came around and okay position now. Is All right with going left like that. Like I said, if I keep a straight, we'll be up in the mix imagine how good you didn't have to work work during the week. Yeah. Big Dogs need to give me a shot. What did you think about the tracking general couple of routers mentioned I don't know if you've reading here much before but they said it was a little different. Red Bud. Never, ever been to Red Bud first time here first time riding a first time doing outdoor series in America. So Did I. Loved it I. Mean it was second medal a little more narrowly than the first. But like the I wasn't that rough, I would say it was. But found flow had fun and just kept on digging. Nice again, to interviews a week expert keep that up. Yeah. I gotTA keep up these results. What about Iraq what? What is a struggle street right now? What are we going to do? Honestly just feel bad for the guy I have brand new bike. But I really scared give him my motor today. Are you can't. You can't do that I mean he even wouldn't even take it. So what's going to happen when you get like it's GonNa blow up one. It wasn't even his fault though to be fair to say Aidid hit a rock. So we'll. Not, erase faulk. We gotta get this train back on the tracks rob bell. We'll get him a different bike I. Think I. think that's the. Bad. Luck bike. New Green Bike. Yeah. Just a new on fresh maybe he. Energy like. I like it. Thanks good job. Thank you. All Right Chase sexton second overall I feel like. Zakho pretty well but I feel like, how'd you starts been better and they were still pretty good I think you could've gone to to. Yeah I mean I think it'd be one one I don't know I think I like a good start. A great star is a big thing in this class and I had a really starts second model but I. I try to go around the outside Zach and he he clipped your. AC. Got Shuffled back and was kind of a bummer. But I made my way I was like six seven I got up to four and Yeah. I mean we were pretty much freight train to act. He kinda got away. But yeah, I WANNA get a date whole shot or at least like second so I can just run run the pace if I can get with the front guy. And I feel like I'm getting better every week. So Yeah it was the chocolates really gnarly and I put down a pretty good late race charge says Eli was behind me. So felt pretty good about that and He asked I can overall we're getting better. So hopefully winning motos here by the year was crazy like you said like you did get good starts like people would. Whatever your start was average of fourth or fifth today but this classes, it's that way where you that that's not even good enough now and it's just like everyone is so good and. and. They don't like they don't really say that marsh like they don't get tired. So like it's really a dogfight, the whole race which is it's it's tough but it's It's pretty fun. 'cause I mean every race I've been in a battle. So it's been it's been fun. But yeah, the this guys are gnarly really while they but hopefully Monday we can shake it up a little bit and hope a whole shock that's the difference between getting first and fourth basically. So it'd be like seeing chase with the whole show I don't like to take off upfront that'd be weird. I think in my whole life. I mean supercross is different. I got better starts there but outdoors, I think I've had zero shot. So Second Moto, I saw whole shot in my sights and I went for it and I it actually ended up fighting the but but I think about I gotta lineup a little farther inside my I was out in front of everybody and got a little bit pushed out because I was too far outside. But yeah whole shot and then frigging wait on the hammer so. It'd be good. Nice. Little Jump Down Line where he got you got alongside you kind a little bit and then you got him back. He went around the that was a nice little battle. Yeah. It's fun racing the number one and being new in this class. It's. It's pretty cool to be able to raise the guy that's won three championships in a row. So yeah I think we battled both motos. So it was cool and yeah, he got down the inside with but he was he's really respectful and then I mean, he could absolutely neilly. So. It was pretty cool and that's kind of was my wakeup call I gotta get going because I think it already got past I would have got like fifth overall. So the second so I knew I had to him Um kind of doing math in your head. Yeah. I'm usually pretty good at like racing and doing mass I. I kinda mid race like law little bit. I was not make not riding the bus and making a few mistakes and that's when you caught me and then when he called me on my three laps Scott, it's to go and so i. Laid out. Good laughs in catching a again. I gotTA gotTa get around the guy. Did he just he's a menace he is like the guy. I swear the last I mean. We weren't really invite other but the second moto. Last tomatoes before this at ironman around him, it's just like I wanna pass him like he's he says so he's really smart racer. He's No. It was like how how to just fast enough for it makes it really your so no, it's been. It's been fundraising and we have It's fun ride with them during the week too. But yeah, I wanNA, beat them for sure nine. I WANNA get round of impassive. Ask Him has fifty one doing later today you'll get some nice Nice words back. I heard I I didn't I couldn't. I wasn't really watching them. I was as I spoke my own race but I could see like. I'M GONNA go like it'd be dust flying off. I know I know what happened there do just in that's one guy that you cannot like. You gotta you gotTa Guard Your Sides People Eight. You got to set up a past and then you gotta get the hell out of there. If you pass him you better like run for your life because he is coming back that's one guy I don't care if you're filing for he can be violating for fourteenth place. He mean, he didn't give up. Have you pass him? You better start going because he's coming back? I. So first time you did the leap maybe this year. No I did it. Fifteen years old I raise the. Problem drummed right. The get along fine. No offense I mean the Hondas. Great. Obviously. But I did it on the seventeen. Toys. Bike I did A. Two Times was an amateur and then I did it. Twenty eight, thousand racer last year I did it a lot in case a lot so That it every lab. GotTa clean every lab she better I get to sit down face and this whole a wider actually over jumped on the album I almost I thought I was gonNA, blow my wheel out I landed the bottom guy told me I want to jump the leap and he told me It's really easy. It's third wide open and you'll have no problem which sounds a lot easier than what it is but that's what he said. Third Wide Open Third Wa is actually hitting second. I wasn't eating a second year like pretty much wide open but third production when you might land in the corner on my bike. So production by you probably third year. Yeah. Right. I. Mean Corner Speed just get a right over. You'll be no problem. Well Hey nice job today thought really good writing and we'll see going forward. This is exciting class. It's really fun to watch. So thanks. Thank you.

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3151: Hustlers w/ Bianca Brady

Keith and the Girl Comedy Talk Show

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3151: Hustlers w/ Bianca Brady

"Welcome and Keith and the girl. I'm Keith Malley. If you live in the area and you shop in the area and you're a teenager we would like to apologize because there's a local grocery store that had the Whiz then she should excuse me excuse excuse me clerk. I don't drink but I do happen to notice back. You sell chocolate booze for one dollar and I said. Did you know that there's alcohol indies and he said No. There's not nice said. Please look at the back of the bottle. All we have is our youth fagin right. You took away a lot of people's fun. Come first of all you should. I think some people are trying to enjoy their lives out there. Can we stop that real quick good. I was just and I didn't consider that but I was that was in the supermarket and at the counter they had an entire display with a bunch ange of chocolates that are obviously filled with liquor and that they were selling for a dollar because I sincerely know that. These people don't know there's liquor in it because I don't even have a liquor license. You know it's just a good then. You couldn't in New York City anyway yeah you see they can't get a liquor license. They can't sell liquor and there they are with these things and I recognize them. You want to hear from why we had them at Bar Mitzvahs and that's that's what I recognize them like Oh. This has alcohol in a and you're GonNa hate me even more what I used to do at bar. mitzvahs is dumped the alcohol half the time. Maybe you're hoping the Clark says that the kids let's do that. I don't know what she I said. Hey these have alcohol in it right and you just like wow you know and she's like no. They don't and I was like wow that's a that's a big problem to not know that you don't have alcohol writing counter and then it was a dollar but the ironic part is I had one and liquor and chocolate is really good. Did you come. I'm back go listen. I made a mistake. These are good. 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Don't let guys a lot to talk about by the way coincidentally like your hair. You're always a joy but a lot in the Nash there so much to get through. Everybody's going to know hey. What is this Bianca. What is her personality. What her thoughts political issues social issues rush excited? Keith is like let's invite Bianca onto torture with Mike Classic bummer news episodes well. How how are you doing I in life in general great fantastic. Okay there we go to the Bianca segment. She really does move briskly along phrasing control. This one wants to get behind the pay wall. That's my twitter. She's got the whip for that. Felicity Huffman got fourteen fourteen days in prison a fortnight Sh- for the college admission scandal fourteen days fourteen days for scamming GAM ing this white collar crime right. Can we call it. Something pretty like white collar crime. It's the largest college and missing scam adverse the very first person prosecuted because she pled guilty not and threw herself at the mercy of the court with that said they recommend that a month and she said but that's too much and was able to somehow fourteen days. What did that said. She's the only one that the media at least publicly immediately said guilty. I'm so sorry but it's not that it's not just like a getty. You're guilty. You're sorry that's a good plea bargain right but it wasn't in just. You're trying to get your daughter into school. There was an entire new fundraise. There was like a fake a what did they put together that they're funneling handling money into this into a company that doesn't exist in order for them to get their kids in high into college. It's such a big crime. Timmy to me like you have people in jail over joint fucking marijuana. You know like people just getting into a physical fight on a Saturday night. You got people in there hair for way longer than this. I'm reading about a woman she's convicted of casting a provisional ballot in two thousand sixteen when she was on superfly supervised release for twenty eleven eleven tax fraud conviction so this woman's jail she. I she's allowed on release. She signed she voted and so she got five years for doing that and she's like an felicity. Huffing got fourteen months. Oh this is such bullshit if this if this doesn't scream bullshit to you I you're probably still sleeping right. Yeah wake up sheep will allow everyone. Everyone go to jail forever. That's hemmed to stay. Put yourself in jail. Sign yourself out when you think it's right. You probably giving yourself wrong right. You should stay in there forever. I guess I said fourteen months fourteen days of course Felicity Huffman fourteen fortnight. That's nothing nothing. Is that really what a fortnight meets cool Here's the thing about felicity though she's a good actress. We need see a lot of shelter she. She worked it in the court. She did like I think she did the best she could like from a PR standpoint where she was in the courtroom going like I fucked up like I'm so sorry you're saying for price. Raising ironically money got her out to well. I know I think she just she just she knew how to work it where she's like you know she feels she allegedly feels bad or she seems seems like she feels bats. That makes her seem a little bit less evil well. That's still is money because that is a high paying team telling you exactly what to say and how to behave casinos how to act these are the words as Keith you recommend for for her for her punishment. Death sure yeah if we're talking about a wonderful world yes but I hear your tone so what's the point but Lori Law. I'm asking yes. Yes is dead of a fortnight at night. You should be put to death but you know a year would be pleasurable to me short one year one year into celebrities. That's like five years. Let's be honest. Turn turn shouldn't be a difference but there is three months at a time so that's considered a year right yeah right. They call seasons years. Give her a season yeah. I let a twenty six six episode season. It's called a three camera sentence and then is what I was. GonNa say Lori Laughlin. I I guarantee whenever Felicity Huffman said guilty. Lawrie was like he could have called me. A witness said I'm not guilty now. She's going to have to get a lot more time than felicity and a principal. I why do think so. Even if it's a month it's got to be more than fourteen days. You think principal has to do with any of this shit. Yes yeah yeah. It's all the game you you don't make the system look stupid and at the system system was willing to give somebody that says not guilty fourteen days. That's as guilty fourteen days than somebody that does not guilty and we caught. You has to get more well. Can I just tell you a month and fourteen days would be no difference to me. I understand like being in jail. You feel the difference but this is still the same crime and it's still a bullshit sentence. That's the sentence fourteen. Days was the last time people got fourteen days for something. That was this big. It's huge. It's a scandal Laughlin fifteen days exactly the second that saw yeah. I wonder if it's too late for Laurie to go. I thought about it in the guilty three dancer yeah for felicity fourteen days for Laurie death the minute we got yet. Mitt Mike Soren Tino from the Jersey shore the situation while the switch is free. It was in jail for tax evasion eight months right eight months now now. He's out and he can go to the gym do his laundry way. He wants to get a Tan. Do you think that he was on laundry duty in jail the whole time 'cause he's like guys didn't give because that's what you want. One go put Emerald Goss Ego's the jail and you put them in the kitchen. If I think about it pretty much all you do in jail is gym Tan laundry so she was always always been there. Do you think this it is fair where he got eight months and she got fourteen days. You don't think that's gaming the system the same system you. You don't think that's tax evasion when you're starting a company and I know she didn't start the company but she knew exactly what that company was four and that was what do you call when you don't pay tack while. You pay less tax guaranteed bat you felicity Huffman. Ice Soom can carry herself even lawyers are doing the work can carry herself better than a the situation who Ooh upon being released from jail tweeted out turn up we free. I think Felicity Huffman is going to act a little humble my point being that's their character director. He couldn't get less than eight months if he tried because he's like. I want some jungle juice. I'll make some vodka drinks for. It's like now you have to go to jail the Sich totally hey what I do. Oh that's one thing you can say you definitely have to go to prove that you know the money and the you're the you can fake the sister. He's not an actor. She is right but when you're on one of these TV shows reality shows don't think you can can get away from your taxes. You're on the show. A lot of people do that. Though I think it's the same thing as felicity you know just looking around being like like a lot of people do this probably fourteen days later. She really learned a lesson one fortnight. Oh home I I read. That's somebody wrote I bet she's GonNa learn the same amount in jail for fourteen days than her daughter will imprison in in prison than her daughter will in school for for four years it makes sense. The saddest part was her daughter didn't know about it until the whole thing broke and her daughter was like you really didn't believe in me. I really didn't think I could go to college. That's so rude I didn't call. I'm an idiot but right correct but at the same time it's like come up. I don't know why you got me into rowing. I never wrote about in my life but anyway that's true like she wasn't helping her daughter to where she wanted to go. She's helping herself figure out some shit. That known was interested in a wonder. If that's what Lee celebrities they meet each other at dinner and most people you talk about how their kids are. Doing you think those celebrities they talk about the rich people they talk about what they did for their kids illegally. Oh really I think so. I think the real winners in this situation are the non famous participants in the scam because there's like you know dozens of parents who are implicated but we're only talking about Felicity Huffman and Laurie Laughlin Flynn 'cause they've been on TV. What about you know some John Rogers Yeah. What about him alot yeah but don't know any of the other ones uh-huh yeah those other people probably get a bigger sentence because they have well. No they have money also so who gives a shit. I don't announce the names of the bad people I think about the victim victim Caesar the following kids that could not get into school on their own merits. These are the down masses of our future. He's speaking of which Saturday Saturday night live. Saturday night. Live was coming on the ear. Lets that it's September twenty eighth when it begins. It's a weekly comedy show. It's on it's on television at its late that it's alive but it's live and woody. Harrelson will be the first guest and this he again he is. He's in many movies and whatnot always plays himself. Okay wait. Can you start the beginning. Can you imagine this. You're in so much trouble. I'm just fucking with Keith now. I'm sorry audience. Let him get the get to the news of even three new cast members Boeing Yang. Yes yes Khloe Feinman and Shane Gillis ooh tough one so it's supposed to be the greatest day of these three peoples lives of course and bone you could here on our show keeping girl dot com slash. Bo Anyang when Yang I know at least one of the two shows he was on a is a youtube thing you can see him great very funny. Guy Asian first Asian right in history on SNL Okay Justice and now you've found an aide funny guy right wow I won well then we mentioned the other guy that was hired Shane Shane Gillis and why Bianca's go is because a lot of information that was popping up and I wanted to be very clear when I say this not his past cancel culture people are talking about me and if you really think about it it's like everything is the past like right now l. what I just said. That's the frigging past kief right well. This is pretty much is recent and apparently very homophobic. Whether it's making jokes Chenault they're homophobic. They're the racists here's Shane on pod his podcast and of last year chinatowns fucking nuts. That's crazy. It is full fucking in China the Chinese down. I wonder how that started. They just built one fucked up looking building people like all right. No one said anything chinks. Thanks live there. They build these fucking like huge Shanghai. The first one fury like what are you guys doing here first of all so. There's more than I'll play Chinatown New York. Yes okay yeah I assume so because the podcast he does in here in New York audio. Quality is so offensive thank you. That's what above me and I'm like Oh. I guess that's not their own audio. It's not a big deal but then I heard more and it gets bad so I fuck is their point so sa Chinatown Chinatown were surprised to see Chinese people. They don't get it so they're everywhere. Though it's fair that's all I got. I'm trying to town some buildings is China is trying to plan it through everywhere so snl hires Bo and Yang and then they go okay but for the other the point of view this Guy Chinatowns fucking nuts. It's crazy. It is full fucking China Chinese down. I wonder how that started. They just built one fucked up. Looking building and people were like no one said anything chinks live there well. They built these fucking huge Shanghai. The first one month's fury created everyone. Are you guys doing here. These ducks the guy. We're talking about him. He's the he's the one that sounds like he has chew in his mouth. Is he like slurring. Yes anthem Mantha can cool. You know what yeah true also. I'm always like how can there be so many fucking restaurants down here. alrea spoke as you go in. There's like one in person eating ever trucking down neuters. I Hate I hate food at trial. NEUTERS is fun racist way to say noodles. I guess that's how Asians talk and I think he just bird. No He's doing racist voice. That's up as the judge low. You got to go to jail. uh-huh listening. Chinese foods are very dishonest cuisine. I don't even want to think about Vanity fucking. Don't give me for can start. It's okay. I'm I'm trying for. SNL In another month the only can give me fuck in Starkville how funny I putting their food to make it delicious dude they so he just said the food was the richest fucking serious. SNL This is the podcast just was his auditions well in all fairness. The puck is called Matt and Shane Secret podcast so is the secret can't guys everybody's leaves. Drop it on diaries now. That's why the Ku Klux Klan hide their faces with sheets. It's like their secret. The couple's their hat off Kim venue to fucking chemical to put in their food. Get Delicious Dude. They made us. MSG Is this okay first of all they didn't make misdee- MSG was discovered and it's discovered in Japan by the way honest food. There's nothing there's nothing to it. It's Shitty Shitty meet a chemical. They made up fuck your body up and noodles else neuters the chief thing in the world we chemical okay. Can I just I I would love to read the nutrition diarrhea diarrhea. I would love if they woke up and had a SMOOTHIE and like no. We don't put that in our body no like Pete's all. I don't think it's bad but like what a McDonald's like. He's overweight gentleman Oh. He didn't even not obese by yes but I don. It's not even that it's just like a by the way so you talk I can like you're just saying shit like dumdum et worst meet you can find we got in there and we sat down and baby girl was like. I'm so excited for neuters and I was like Yo Chill Joe fans like. Don't drag me into your shit. That's who baby girl. I'm going to guess or his actual child but I doubt it. I'm so sorry she said neuters. Maybe maybe it was a baby and it's it's fucking. Chine- in there so isn't that isn't that kind of like nice though isn't that when people go into the Mexican restaurant off to Tacos because honorable of spicy neuters in the land you know sometimes people go out. Have the guacamole else fucking idiot yeah so maybe if I talk with the ours nells messed up like they do. They would appreciate it so so that the word Taco is in an accent given a for instance translation between you and the waiter yeah. It was just such a fucking doc in hassle. It's a new I'm pointing at. This is the Falcons area. Let's put number five fifty seven yeah. There's one even with the fucking shit point. I was like dat sauce breath. This is why people hate Americans and other countries because they're bravely pushing boundaries with their comedy of course people are too afraid to say you know. I'm sorry if I push the envelope. What can Hannah okay a breakfast that we're doing recording the racist scene and breakfast at Tiffany's today. You're ready to put some boundaries. Oh all of these tropes oops from. I don't know the path five decades. I need to say them now. So that in the future people will know that the boundaries have been pushed by me on this issue they went to China Town and said Holy Shit. They're Chinese. People here also like God like when not quality me. Has Anybody been so upset that there's like a lot of restaurants to to choose so many restaurants down there like how dare they. I'm just guessing that the next episode was about Italy. Italy towns many restaurant where I'm affirm- one restaurant and that's the American way who's a my medium a spices like ah medium. She's like he's more than reiter. What are they what are they saying is is finding a way to do more more Asian accents. Dow is an Asian accent. What do you think it was. I didn't I thought he was. I thought it was getting sleepy. I does that says the that's what we should say the hamby defense people honestly are buying this. I knew a guy that one time knew a guy that the gun into the wrong car on Ambien also wears. Where's this guy from because they like like. What is that accent? Philadelphia is a I think that's where he why do know that not been the comedy okay because I do know that he performed multiple times in Philadelphia and we know the guys the men and women that run a good good comedy good good comedy comedy honestly like I was in Philly and they had the best show in town like it's such a good venue. They tweeted out. We like many were very quickly. Disgusted discuss it by shame. Gillis's overt racism sexism homophobia and transphobia expressed both on and off stage upon working with him years ago. We've deliberately chosen not to work with him in the years since and the definitely stand by this you know what I mean they. They know their comedy club. They know people are are going to get upset at them. Like gotcha block was pretending to be discussed it all this. You can't push it as a comedian like now. I think we gotta say something and they also know that I mean there's such a small theater hitter and they're like the newest one I think and so and they're very independent very mom and pop shop in there and so they know that being on this guy side now that he has an name would snl maybe US enough it would benefit them yeah yeah so they're saying it at the height of where would benefit them and they're just kind of if she didn't themselves as Great Vulture the magazine later uncovered another recording of Gillis criticism Comedians who deploy a confessional style this is am reading Jut they talk about Judd Appetite and Chris Cather and marked them using homophobic slurs calling them quote White Faggot comics and fucking engage than Isis holy denies of people and you know how gay I say says they chop your head off. If you're gay so confusing this Isis slatter no jet appetite Chris gathered. What are you saying about. Kris gathered you we to Chris gathered probably saved so many people's those lives. I'm not even exaggerating with like his comedy and his entertainment. He's one of those comedians where it's like. He helps actual people who depression he was on so listen to that so Bonia gets hired okay and of course you know gang also is so funny yes and talent so Shane. Gillis Gillis gets hired then they find by find. I mean recent a clip of Shane on the PODCAST. The the real last podcast with Louis J Gomez and Zaka Miko were Gillis Calls Yang a quote Jew Chink now. We worked together Hi Hi Shane. This is exciting. We're writers together. You know we have to we have to write to help each other. Get skits on the show. You know what's funny just to bring up how perfect Boeing Yang had to be with his career period yeah and how this Guy Shane. They didn't even see that he called. This particular person that you hired hired them at the same time like Shane didn't have to do the things that bohn-young had to do yeah I again. I want to be clear. This is the guy who found there's a huge comedy community in New York alone. Let's say you're not flying people in just for the interview or whatever let's not thinking outside of your own city. Fine doesn't huge community of women people of Colored People at the people that you're just like yeah. We're so on board with these people. You found this fucking got. What did his audition look like. We'll be able to take a shoot on command. Honestly what else is there. Also there are are so many more like there are so many different problematic white guys that they could hire that would be less embarrassing for them the day they hired them right. You know what I mean like you can still go the you know six straight white guy route without You know really bungling it. y'All there are so yeah. He's from the Philly area. He's in New York City now to be clear so then he posts apology the night this makes news ten forty say basically ten forty three PM now. I can't help but wonder the run this by Lorne michaels the run this by SNL people eighty go. You know what they say can be lower Mickelson sit. Everybody go no more twin Michael J. Your facebook fuck is wrong with this whole. Get off your Shit Tare weight. Hey you hear your head afford the morning talking to each other but then you got ray little ray little secrets jute chinks extend that supported the show Suksathaporn so big here. She'll be your brackets. You're done for the day. My fantasy is that Lorne michaels is like sitting in a chair. That looks like a giant. Eagle's nest like I know what I'll do. I'll hire the first Asian cast member and then also the guy who called him a racial slur or on the same day and then we'll put that in a pot with a little pinch of salt and a little bit of Mike Canadian blood and we'll see what happens because there's no earthly reason why I should have been the successful in comedy in the past forty years. It's all a fluke. Don't feel bad for that. Third Comic no one's talking about the way in subject subject. No I think she's probably like thank goodness. I just won't be clear said Chick so here's the non apology and what also bothered me about it. It's he wrote it in notes on his phone and took a picture of it so you still you see the cursor waiting at the end. I how did chat and notes APP. Apology is one of the best things celebrities have to oppor offer a comedian who pushes his boundaries. Yeah Bra fucking FICO boundary. I'm GONNA push it. The I said neuters for the noodles the can push us okay. Some people are ahead of their time but you wait for years from there. I'm a comedian who pushes boundaries. I sometimes miss if you go through through my ten years of comedy most of bad you're going to find a lot of bad misses railway star trek me but also note but what you're saying is. I'm unqualified and somehow I got the job you're saying mostly have bad shit and I miss a lot. I get that but you are a comic and this is what you applied for and so you're not sitting there in front of law and Markle's articles. Go Trust me. I'll miss a lot not only a my racist. I'm bad at what I do but I try. Hey guys I it but again by trying anymore. It's not that local news I went with my body and all we did was go to Chinatown that day so it's like. I'm just saying how I feel. You always wanted me to share my feelings. Women lawmakers need to sit these people down. Go notice notice on the show. You play other people be those people. It's all part of his master plan but you you are bad. I I like when you do voices but again this. This isn't the US going through ten years of comedy so yesterday. I'm happy to apologize to anyone who's actually offended by anything. I've said let in what who's actually offend instead of US saying what a lame apology and making us give matter we tweet him and go yes. It's me I would. I would like the okay I believe would like want would like when we will all take some thank you he's like and for proof. I will need a notarized letter it. I'm happy to apologize to anyone who's actually offended by anything upset. If you're fucking little I'll apologized to your bitch ass. Say I'm a bitch right right you need to do. I got nothing but bitching me. My intention is never heard anyone but Amtrak to be the best comedian I can be and sometimes that requires risk so I'm not good enough so I blame you by the way that's a baby accent. I don't want offend anyone anyone. I WANNA offend everyone. In one racial Daniel Day Kim Asian he says it took forty five years for us now to get an East Asian cast cast member and then the same year. He'll be joined by someone who would have no problem calling him quote a fucking Chink. GotTa be a joke in there somewhere brain swim guy. Let's brainstorm rainstorm. He's very racist. We had our first Asian. What do we do. What's the first skit. Maybe we're in a racial training seminar Lawrence just doing it for his own in Lafayette. He's like I wanNA see these fucking kids on the first day of work see what they do. I think so too and also so remember we talked about Dave Chapelle in recent episodes since owns Ajay noggin Luke Touma. Yes thank you thank you. She probably knows the number of the epicenter. Don't say it because it really it just makes me. Keith and I wonder what the fuck down so I mentioned a couple things were often ignorant and that's why they didn't land for me so to me. This is like on on the same sort of Scopus this so I get on twitter. Dave Chapelle is a joke teller saying a joke doesn't make him an S. S. J. W. R. Activists. He's still clown looking for laughs. If the joke's on transit ignorant isn't that expected isn't the absurdity isn't the absurdity what we're all laughing at and so I wrote cool yeah the whole time during that Hembo so you're like I'm not mad I liked the special wrote like you're so bad you dave it also like if Dave Chapelle says ignorant things in your defending him then I'm saying an ignorant thing and maybe you should defend me because we're both doing the same thing but you're getting mad at me not him. I'm just it's so weird to be like. Why are you commenting on my comment and then going like it's a frantic on your comment the free for all for the original people but then it's not if you have a point yeah. I'm commenting on Dave Chapelle and you're commenting on me. Do not see the irony in your defense of Dave which I he's the most one of the most brilliant comics of our time of time of our time. I feel like he he does push which Brown res. He D- He is incredible and in a comic genius in a lot of ways Sidon Tuta three of his jokes good right well when you have somebody racist sexist U. S. knows a big deal. It's not bullshit. It's only President United States of America. Can you take it's fucking institution for four decades a little serious. Mike Kaplan tweeted out. I can't believe shingles. President is resurfacing yeah yeah and then he said there are very people on both sides of this. SNL thing Lord David Field rates as a straight white male stand ended up. WHO's showcase for us now this year. Let me just say damn. How badly did I fuck that old saying then then the Hollywood reporter puts out an article to say congratulations to the first Asian cast member but when Yang Hang and there's a picture of Joe Kim booster now another comic can here on Keith and the girl of course so I tweet it out. I'm proud that Keith dot com featured both both of us in those new Asian performers sang. Apparently I hate Joachim. That's his twitter account. Well congrats the motors for everybody. Legally Joel should be hired if he wants the yeah yeah you know what Joel should come in for Bowen one day and these fucking. Oh my God Hollywood reporter what you do just go through your Asians wowed the first one that popped up be booster. God knows how did it even happen so joe. Kim's doing findings on an NBC show that comes out the twenty six called Sunnyside so Boeing Yang tweeted out Anyway Watch sunnyside on NBC. Oh Shit Wow Jesus Christ well. I gotta go no kidding right. Go to jail fourteen days or something I I heard no. I just WanNa think it is what time to think and is I just feel like everybody like you know people listening to this who get mad. I just wonder what you're listening to like when you don't get mad at certain comments and then we're also saying this jokingly and and with thought out you know. Keith has some shit printed but you're going to get mad at us and I think the the ones that are like I'm not on any one side but you really should be nicer yeah. That's a side bitch. Just weird timing really nice right. I'm fine I don't. How Nice are we supposed to be right? I'm always it's always said was he said a name. I said he guys in hot water it. I guess they also like does Lorne michaels saying like assuming it's not an evil genius plan. They'll say like fuck doc. This is a problem but my kids get in trouble for for everything. It seems. I have to ignore this. I think that's what yeah I was. GonNa say is. I think that SNL has pushed the boundaries and has said some pretty forward things. That must have gotten the same kind of press is. How can you say that bubble boss. I don't think the head of this whole thing he's not in auditions. I don't think but even if he was. I don't think he's paying attention this as a small bananas to him. There's always an uproar about his show. There's always this is not funny about his show. I don't think that you become him by paying attention to any of this because what's what's GonNa Happen. Nothing no one's going to boycott. Nothing's GonNa Change in the in the listener washed. Watch the how many how often people watch watch. It's just not going to change for him. So what does he care. If children which is what these people are are fighting again is he is shameless. GonNa play a Chinese waiter on the first. The episode just like wink to the audience knows yeah. 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Love your buried together you can't you can't be a part. They just discovered that those were two men Italy so that's interesting right. It really was adamant Steve. How about that bread cavanaugh he has he's now of course the Supreme Court justice so it doesn't matter what I'm about to tell you about another rape accusation lifetime appointment take time appointment bit longer than fourteen days now New York Times opinion tweeted out having a penis thrust in your face at a drunken Donkin dorm party may seem like harmless fun but when Brad Kavanagh did it to her Deborah Meme Ramirez. It confirmed that she didn't belong at Yale well in the first place then New York Times opinion came out and said we deleted an earlier tweet to this article that was poorly phrased look into ever typed now. Having a peanut stress in your face might seem like fun what what but someone could lose enough I god I think that's the most honest tweet. I do think that people think like member what's his face was on our show. What is the big massive dude dude who had his friends. Dixon his face St Stefanos Distefano so he was just like they were just fucking around. It's just a dick in your mouth. 'cause they're joking. Oh King right this is very true and and what I thought growing up like that's a prank like drawing a dick on your face if he falsely I at the a party like I really is this guy. I mean an opinions. I don't like. It sounds like this has facts in it but it's the opinion I guess you take a little lighter than the rest of the New New York Times but don't you probably glance at the New York Times ago. This isn't what I should Roy. I love that I love it because it is it is hey you. You might think this is funny. Because this is your intention to be funny somehow like the you expect people to laugh in other words but this is how it makes someone actually really feel. I think it's Great New York Times. Didn't I just think that there are so many avenues for content and like everything Ashby continually updated every five minutes that the person buying the tweet is dislike this penis harmless fun sand you know and then all of a sudden you're like wait a second this the paper of record the recording this. I don't even want the word neatness in there. there were the creative arts. Emmys came out the other day. There's of course the regular emmys. Everybody knows about and they go. You know what it's five hours long as it this. Let's take some of these ones that you don't care about so much and have a be its own show where I don't know where you see but people do dress up just the so they said hey we the EMMYS. Let's do part to know the kind of it's the opposite kind of but yeah they do a little ceremony and then we'll have the fun when where you see Felicity list the Hoffman shout out to my friend Ryan the WHO was nominated nominee for his netflix. Show special got news for you. Is that is that on the real emmys or the creative arts creative art okay. Here's some winners outstanding structured reality programme program queer eye previous known of Courses Queer Eye for the straight guy wait. That's a comedy no outstanding structured reality programme a structured reality all right reality man structured reality okay. We'll queer is very very very popular right yeah. Everyone loves it and offs could make over. It's fascinating of for that. One was antiques roadshow. That's still going on great. Shell everybody's clean stuff up right. Shit uh-huh. Is it sad when they're like. That's worth a quarter dumb dumb and you're like. Oh take your teeth back to your house now. I like it like it's like a scratch to get you know I think I think that show created hoarders or you know like I think like no you ever like. Keep something because it's like this looks old so I feel like I should take it in and TC store and then the antique show is giving you all this like all they were going to throw this out never ever throw it out and then the horrors alike. It's my treasures by the way speaking of scratch off ticket. I was at the data. That's that's sorry that's the way to stop. Hoarders orders is to get an antique show person and be like Oh. All of this is garbage. Allah certified garbage now. I can let it go and the two shows at once the antique show meets the orders all put on split-screen silver. You pay more attention to what side angle of the camera you want. Ah Yes the new real brady bunch so see somebody buying a scratch off ticket and I asked the data guy what the what ticket. How much does that ticket that he got. I don't know maybe it's a sign. He goes twenty dollars and so you know I'm out right there but then 'cause. I can't sell it to you while he's here because if he loses than I win win. Maybe maybe the guy did something shady who knows he doesn't WanNa get a customer roundup. Why didn't I get that one fat aw yeah funny. Oh there was a period where I became a little bit addicted to scratch tickets in college kind. Were you buying and the the cross crossword unplanned password right that was probably easier than the times crossword puzzle right yeah yeah pretty much. Only when the finishes this scratch I've felt a little bit like day Class-a shall we say because that would be in college like with my books like bookmarked up with only scratched but I managed which to quit or congrats thinks they are. I am surprised at how expensive they get like not not because of the one time thing I get that but the twenty dollar ticket it is that's money a best narrator for the creative emmys best narrator narrator. Yes explaining their Hamda like on a show times. There's a show and the action is happening on the show but perhaps what's happening in the action. Russian is not clear who's Oh somebody comes in in post production and they sort of look at the action and they explain into the audience what is happening and that Hamda is a narrator given example of a nearby right now. David attenborough my famous impression from last week gun keep the girl David Amber also happened to win best narrator for our planet our plan okay and in our planet the human male records a podcast and end he decides let me go to a restaurant of Asian descent and then my my friend and we will go to our sound booth and be races then the human mail gets hired hired on the most prestigious in the entire Western Hemisphere David attenborough you you congrats he won. I get it now. Thank you outstanding writing. Explain the conduit. Hem does sometimes a word when you two aren't hearing bring it from a narrator. Perhaps you're looking at symbols on a page and you're thinking what are these lines that are just in shapes but really they a formal letters which form words which form a language up for outstanding writing Adam Sandler for one hundred percent fresh stop it Amy Schumer. You didn't see see. It's not what a near writer right now okay. Let's take that seriously sure. Let's compare that to my real brain. We're never going Amy Schumer for growing Carpool Karaoke when court admit mckearney. I'm sure that was outstanding writing. Okay I saw that did I cry. Yes Paul McCartney's greatest Brady's interesting. Maybe I'm amazed at the way as saying in the car. When it was all written he wrote those songs for writing homecoming a film by beyond say Great Phil Wait. I saw that one. That is the one of her in Coachella yeah. That's not what she wrote that in writing there was no writings. What does this word support their drinking. May I you Syria that was seriously just her at Coachella and then inbetween she'd be like this is us when we were rehearsing and Maya Angelou said she found the most innocuous fucking cl- oh quotes and pretended they were deep and that was in between the song and dances that you took my Angelo is a great writer and the thought that came on screen that is good ratings. Go with it man what is go with the flow. Let's get to move time. 'cause people people. Wanda Sykes Not Normal Komo and your winner Hannah before the net net not real comedy. You imagine that radio is it stand up. I don't know I didn't see is she. Rolling on the ground and shit standing up she's saying things outstanding documentary or nonfiction special fire the greatest party that never happened. I feel like nobody watched that because when you see the commercial for your like I get it. I think I did watch it. Did I learn yeah yeah. Would you learn models are dishonest. They don't care no liked the extent to which this man devastated a tiny communicate meaning financially of the inventor out for blood and Silicon Valley Jane Fonda in five acts love Gilda Gilda radner minding the gap. That's people that got caught or dropped her phone so before they get subway winter right leaving. Neverland that did a lot for a lot of people all is no way. I don't believe it. Come on Dave Chapelle going like fake speaking of movies. We'll do movie time Kendra. I'm being was informed that movie pass has been canceled Hansel. I heard about that but no one's using it while they also like they're trying to figure out how to restructure first of all don't go from sixty dollars a month for unlimited movies that keep Melis willing to pay to get more customers make ten dollars all of a sudden. Everybody's going to go broke as it's it's crazy and of course it fails and they haven't been charging aging people for quite some time now as they but you couldn't use it as they were trying to restructure something and they finally admitted we can't. We don't know what we're doing in the meantime. They're heroes. They should win an award yeah they did well. They changed the whole game. Now your major theater chains have their own specific regal only regal movie theaters but anything you want but you know I did notice that because I went to USA this Friday night and I think that's great because I think of when I think of movies I think Keith Malley and I think like usually if viewer steady movie goer you go to the one by your house because if you have a major movie theater what are you care right so and regal is in so many places lacing regal. AMC these are the big ones. I think they should have one of those like police funerals for movie pass with Bagpipes and stuff all the people who loved it. There should be documentary. I assume mimics. I think I took him down. There was a time I'm not exaggerating. There was a time when and move pass wasn't working but they said save your stops and I don't think people are saving him. They prayed in one people to I saved all the stops and then I and then I they reached the CEO of movie pass. He happened to ethnic first problem. He happened to hear me say on the show and he's like hey. Thanks for really supporting movie passes. I go. Thanks also not getting answers about my stubs. May Be can help me out because yeah tweet him over to me. Twenty easily bling bling bling bling bring the gotTa take out a loan so he pays uh-huh all these stubs and then I'd be in this documentary is my point but you're right they should it's amazing that they changed the the game and it gave these theater ideas. These theaters the idea like all right. You have to go to our theater but it's unlimited. How about somewhere in the middle twenty five dollars and that's what I do. I go to movies by myself. That's more than twenty five dollars I went to the movies was nineteen dollars a ticket nine hundred nineteen dollars. It was a regular regular. The're wasn't like anything like that and you saw Hustler's. That's the price of a lap dance earth nine thousand dollars go to people you know you gotTa Buy Popcorn and Soda Oughta know of course she go to jail or teen all week. I was like I can't wait for popcorn and Friday night. I Love Movie Popcorn so oh you get that or up on serious on Friday night. My sister likes that popcorn. We left catering. She got the popcorn for like the walk home. She's smart said that about your sister was sixty dollars for the first part of your quote date or whatever you know like. I I happen to be on a date but but then why are you not doing all you can do is walk around after he just seems you know. Nobody thinks about the money because you're an asshole. If you go I'll get the movie you get dinner. No you're making. You're making out by getting the dinner no shit. I'm getting lawful. Fuck out of here yeah. What like it's just insane? You can't do anything else. Fred him the tweet it out. I dare you to not walk out of Hustler's Keith Malley. I'll bet you twenty dollars. You won't make it to the sea. Now ended doesn't understand the kind of guy that will see both parts of that ship movie it so you're talking to the wrong guy. Also I think it was so upset about losing money. She's like take all my fucking money. I think she's like you ever be in a casino and you lose the money you set aside and you're like Oh. I got a spare dollar in my pocket so on your way out you find a tampon machine for no reason like take. They can all stop me doing who wants money. I'm giving away money but also I genuinely. I'm not joking the last show that we did where I was like. I'm going to see this movie like as a joke and two of you who was a guest on that someone nice it was Chelsea Chelsea. White and I'M GONNA see too and I'm like yeah girlfriend shit right and then they both looked at me like no we're going to the movies as people do. Matt Matt as people do like come on as a kid is not going to see this because he sees everything but not like crazy Bolton. You're not GonNa go see Magic Mike for Example Faulk in my life Magic Mike. Xl Is my favorite movie but you're different than the director. Steven soderbergh directed it. He's not he's a real director. Oh my God did you see the commercial for Hustler. Yes and you're like this is sincere. fucking movie that I'm going to go pay money for they say it's about the women in a strip club that drug men we read the story on Keith girl at the time and they would they started claim Craig C. You watched it. Go ahead. Tell me how great it is. I fuck explain to me how this is a movie. Oh my God and our fifty by the way which you couldn't have been happy about it if you're gonNA fake happiness happiness about that. I'm calling you out an hour fifty. Did you love the Christmas aim for fucking fifteen twenty minutes to love that fucking shit a Chinchilla coke because you made how much five grand split between the club in the four view. We're rob the math didn't add up the fucking bullshit didn't nat up and all it was was J. Lo look and st- hunting in every fucking seen so if you aren't paying nineteen dollars for that I will give you that when I go with Aldo and coal and they go like J.lo's amazing and all this other bullshit on my guest. This is why we come see the movie. Get to see your whole but yes yes and yes. She worked like all those stupid hoop things where it's like. Oh I just wanted to see Chinchilla coat. I just wanted to see that she's doing that but it's not a movie weeding go to go like tell me the story of Djalo as a stripper drugging and by the way we're supposed to be on their side. These are fucking big time criminal faces they they didn't just regular drug people they ketamine and Molly narking mention reading this review in print and no sentences are finish and then it goes by the way you're the only one talking okay did drugs scene. Mary please how well you have to stop now. Let's also had it out all right. First of all I will agree. This movie was got it off the the give it any tomatoes how I give it a one to ten. I'd give it a zero like a negative. Mike God you guys are such hater. I loved it and I didn't I did no. I'm not looking at you anymore. For the rest of this by I loved it and you respect my intelligence remember. I don't know how now I just try and talk shit about me on last week no now. I didn't like that it takes so it's two hour movie and now I I don't again. I don't understand why wouldn't be an exciting movie. That's exciting drug and drug Duggan dudes. Get a grip but okay you know what I'm going to hold my would show class two hours and your explanations you should that saying about. I thought it'd be Dahmer was for her because I thought I did not like it and then Jenin I was right but it wasn't even good enough to laugh at Hamda. Guess diagnosis from media. You know you know now. This is all said with love but look the IRA pushes the boundaries like Okay Okay Hamda. You are all about like expanding your mind learning about yourself. You know introspection getting to the bottom some of what other people's experiences are buttering me up opening your third. I you know with the help of like you know. I don't know maybe marijuana Donna from time to time dislike really Oh. I took a we'd break taking the taking away. I hope when the when the went out for the week break it was the five minutes when they actually showed guys intro taking the fabric of reality and just like rubbing all over your face because you don't want any distance between you oh and the real meat of life now for the rest of us. We don't want that. We don't want to know about reality. We you want see me. Oh Lord of the Rings Yeah. Let me read it several times. Let me watch it Hustler's. It hits the same but in for me me I want Jaylo. She's wearing sparkles. Were dragging men. It's morally ambiguous but we try ambiguous it. It was morally ambiguous. The raw at best day are drug. The guys are falling face flat on the floor and then they're robbing them a fifty fifty grand at a time morally ambiguous and for a two hour movie the the only time they took to explain the other side is like a member these guys ruined. Wall Street in the banks. That's true they did. They could've spent another sentence to so. We feel bad for the men okay I didn't. I didn't need a lot of convincing that they were bad but is well if you're in it for the close then that's what you're in for. It weren't picking those bad dudes. They weren't going to their office. They were picking people with Nike Shoes. Who have money you don't even the guy does for a living didn't go to their office? They went to a bar and picked on the guy who fell for their bullshit and then they drugged lugged them drugs. Please please. Let's loans okay and let's see how the movie starts. Did you show up on time. I did very good. Yes you do get into the promos the PRI when I say okay so now when you say on that you understood the movie or did you see the production logo. I saw the whole thing. Thanks Okay Yeah Okay Yeah. I didn't like that. I took a smoke break but I did not miss anything. I promise you okay no. I believe that okay so the very first hour our they I it starts there explaining to me what a strip club is in the slowest ways yes after twenty minutes as like. I fucking talking yet it and of course Jaylo comes on this. I'm a new girl. I want everything that achie- has they're throwing singles hundreds on her and then she's like. I still need a scam to make money. She's making thousands and thousands of night so it takes literally because I check my phone. It takes an hour before the idea of drugging guys and scamming them even comes. Stop sure yeah I would say. The pacing of this movie did have some issues okay well maybe at the end when they showed credits and there was just one editor maybe that's their issue. Cardi B. and Liz or their love Al.. Everyone lost their reason for no reason what. What reason do you need. Besides it's fun and you know there was good reason they're famous fun good yeah. What other the reason is they're? They're in the cool outfits or seeing the cool smoothest kyon ki in the for you to eat honestly. They were the only lines that I was like Oh. This is fun. I love that long. The whole thing was stupid and they were yes. Smallest Comic Relief Avenida Guy. I gotTa Dildo. They loved it now. The love the no I didn't but I at least understood their their situation why they were in there. Did you see it was produced by. Will Ferrell do you you think he was drugged and took his hand and made them ready to scrip. I've thought Faulk God at the very end of it. There's a there's a she so deep deep that final fucking thing. She said what she said. I can hang the everybody. This whole country is a strip cla. Hello mic drop then at the but at the very end of the movie it's over there of course Kat etc then they go back to this Christmas in that understand and it's the four women just dancing for no reason to miss you much fantastic yeah because they're oh spoiler alert possible. They all get off. One of them said yes. I did do it right away. She got caught the main shake. She's like yeah I did to do it and J.lo's fucking telling people that we did it for which I totally understood that anger and then because she was honest with the cops she she only got probation and the rest of them only got probation except for two of them which were not J. Lo in the main chicks. They got something like two months but but only weekends in jail but they drugged men day after day after day like to the point where they're like again falling face down they stole Grand Larceny type money but they were honest at the end the guy that it's just one guy that finally went to the cops. All the other guys are embarrassed for whatever reason the you know the money being taken advantage. You know that kind of thing but this doctor turn union. He reported the scam. This was at scores in two thousand thirteen said that he was dragged on one hundred thirty five thousand dollars in charges racked up to his credit card and then the movie you see see the during a one-minute plot point. Finally some of these men would call can go listen. It's GONNA be my money back now. We can't do that and so of course you know one person comes out and then they find some other people doing six hundred and thirty thousand at a time and by the way in the beginning of the movie Jaylo was explaining how how these guys that she works with at the Strip club. They dropped ten fifteen thousand dollars a night as is normal but she doesn't blow anyone she doesn't and fuck anyway so they're spending ten fifteen grand one. Maybe two to three girls ten to fifteen thousand and no one's getting touched right. You know what that makes yet. Doubt it makes me think of the basketball diaries when Leonardo DiCaprio played this guy that you know would he he he did He's doing heroin but he needs. He doesn't have money for heroin so they explain how he'll go into a bathroom stall and let a guy blow. 'em For a thousand dollars. Is that where we're blue you interesting okay. We'll put that in the same even that's more believable well anyway I do. Do you know what Jennifer Lopez looks like in real life though she played so wait. Was this a real story. Yes yes it starts with this. It is really storing. Wait wait. Did people actually get off though nobody went to jail. I assume that all the words at the the end were true. That's what I'm going to because that'd be easy to prove otherwise then okay to what part really nothing. I'm trying to K okay. That picture looks good too. Yes everyone looks very. I don't know what to say. It's amazing that women could hold gravity. I we've been what's that for years fantastic one of us. What's that I don't get it. Women Look Amazing. Show me another picture strippers. Yes they look great well. I'm saying actually that the actresses look much better than the real people. I thought everyone looks great. Well turn it around. I'm the asshole now. You said it all right okay so now. Can we talk about how they put drugs together. They're like what drugs when when Google it what drugs can get guys to still you'll be like alright and moving but like not all there right so they decided ketamine molly but they didn't know the dose yeah so they took and molly's fifty bucks every time you do a hit right. That's Molly Ketamine. I didn't know how much it is. They took to see the amounts. He took the experimenting. They were like look at this big baking sheet. No that's wrong. Toss it and then when they were cleaning update took a sponge to all of the powder on the on the counter and we were all like a thousand dollars worth of drugs ages you just sponging off also. She's pushing towards the stove. Did you notice that the corner of so you can put it in your hand. Not The sink until the stuff okay. They don't clean much those are drug but I never felt bad for these women when the woman didn't work at a strip club anymore before the Scam mm-hmm then she's calling up the sweet guys at least one of them right you understand. He's a sucker but he's sweet and he's like hey. Maybe I O now's bad the timing. I just a proposed to an fiance fuck. You clack his name at the bottom of the list meaning. She's just going to start abusing people for money again so it's not she's finding the bad people know they were not just finding the weren't paying attention to that but also that guy is not that sweet either. I understand yeah I understand. He's more criminal minded but he he had a fiancee when they were originally doing things was funny. When he took the call in the sauna yeah that was funny but but no he's not that great either but he's not like bankrupt like she is in the fucking head okay. Oh can't well teaches anybody to have any fun around him. Keith you don no. It's a terrible you the grocery store and buy chocolate. Don't go to the movies all you can read self help books and cry Mattie Matty Taylor Steve. Of course I sat through the whole long to do what they did to the strippers under worst night their worst night. Here's some days were bad and they're just showing them like I guess they're being throwing money at them. And that's your fucking worst night. Now who has his trip loved usher came into the club. What a cameo what like five five to ten minutes easily of just him walking into the club and Jalen going. We were famous at the same time basically right but if you if I want the finish the sentence there a problem with that scene which there is no pilly no problem with Cardi B. and Liz for no reason they were. They were cast members and they did like a few lines. That was a very good cameo. It was it was in a made sense him no reason ham the rocking and they seriously slow down every Cardi B. in real life drug men and stole their money may car part of the crow instead she. He's just sticking out of the tunnel if she does. She's probably the one that could bring authenticity to it. I share was ridiculous. Yeah well what did go though I don't get it. I like seeing stupid movies. This was just too dumb. Imagine that you don't like dome. This was three fuck insights with your fucking movie theaters. She's sixty dollars to see a phone. I am now. There are movie theater. I'M GONNA pay her nineteen dollars to never go. Thank you and I will deliver popcorn to your house off. How do I sign up. It's just movie pass Bianca addition addition. It'll last longer yeah. It's where you just just chill Keith. Normally you would be all over shitting on this. I did they miss. Would you have stayed until the end. Biden threaten you wouldn't have walked out of this adequacy specifically fucking Christmas scene permission to treat her like a hostile going into if I was by myself I might have walked out thank you I'm busy. I don't know that I would have got that far. What's thank thank you can. I can you at least understand that I know you will little bit with that tweet that you do not like this movie. You wouldn't have liked this movie and you would have left. Thank you your honor. Yes humps. I'm so that's what happens to the nicest people some movie that they think should have been popcorn. Fun Was it was all about sparkles and for code now but it didn't play rate and she's ready to murder as she's so angry so so bad it has Oscar Buzz Oscars. There was an article I would give general and Oscar for that doc for her but for the whole thing she's she's amazing. She's amazing. She's fifty years old. Oh yes that's that's true but also well. There's two of them because there is a fifty year old in real life and they found another federal somehow. That's the credit concerned congratulations to you Bianca now. I've delete this whole episode. This is garbage and you took your boyfriend end this so that's good. I know by warned him. I did I was I I was noticing no pours her head to Jennifer Lopez but we're ninety minutes on the way that's not a pleasure no offense to the Lopez's. I have porn to whack off in the theater shit. I didn't think it was that High God. You didn't think you get moist now. You just break my heart every episode. It's like every episode Kosova tune in I'm like they're gonNA come around this time. They're gonNA and then now just take my hopes and dreams and grinding them the bottom move. Your shoe into a pulp was like Sherman invited to this thing. I'm like I don't know I you when I brought up this movie two months ago because although an an and call we're like this is coming out and we're going on like yes and then gals. Stay home for that so I'm like. You said he wants to like WANNA hang out. I'm like okay but did you leave. I didn't do this this. When did you leave the know. How long until the movie left I smoke break? Ya I know that it was when they ratted them out so when when the cops were alerted I was outside but when they got arrested I was back in. That's the good part is a good good Lord Art. It's the only part there's five minutes this movie. I'm sorry I I took five minutes to smoke and I missed the good part of an hour and fifty Keith stop. You really need to stop. I shouldn't have met you before because you would have been right with me on this fucking bullshit but I got to defend the stupid movie going sure yeah. That's it like the court and I'm GONNA lawyer defending my voice. Shut the fuck home. You ask her the only ten good during stop it during last week if it surprised how much which I love that movie let's see what she says. We're going to record this immediately right after this show ashish and then ask her if it's interesting now that's next week. We can't run over this and you have to wait. Tony Okay all right. I did see the movie it. That's a three hour movie no exaggeration to scary I was so bored. It's see more movies. I never have to make sense in. This doesn't either you keep going. You don't know the it's my job. Get to know me. I was disappeared at the preview scared at the preview for that. I find it more laughable. I don't know but they they don't explain what this evil clown can do oh and so it's anything fucking goes mostly like have a balloon he really is you know what he is. He's a nightmare on ELM street character and the first nightmare on ELM street came out in eighty four this book. It came out in eighty six and to me. It's a flat out rip off. This cloud could kill kids at any time that's what it wants loves eating children but he keeps fucking with them like Freddy Kruger used to though and especially when you finish part one of it and you're the client and you realize if these kids are trouble. They could actually hurt me. They can yeah yeah they they. They kill the clown supposedly twenty seven years later part to explains how they're adults and they have to fight decline again but he is dead so now nope so now now. Here's this wrestling so now the the end so now. The clown starts fucking fucking with them again. It's like no you know. These are smart kids. Somehow there trouble just like Freddy Kruger. You can fight Freddie if you realize it's a dream so you realize what declines due in isn't real. You can fight him. Somehow somehow kill these kids kill them. Now you gotTa Act like I'll naked lady and scare them again. They love to scare these fucking killers worst the world but you know what's better than getting kids and that is good scaring scare all their kids take care of these fucking bad news bears the trouble eat them this movie in your fantasy of what it would really be like is just like a Julia child style cooky clown just like putting a child into the and then you know mixing things small okay now this horror movie. You want the kids in the recipe. You go to scare a kid okay. That's fun. You scare me right now. Seen American horseman kits the meat more tender so you scare them but then if they find a way to run away even though you have superpowers you catch him and you kill him. You don't keep trying to scare them. They're good. They're good at running. You look look if you saw the trailer for it. Did you see where the this old lady is. Obviously really the clown when Jessica chastain comes back to visit an old house then the old lady starts running towards obviously now evil is being possessed and is running towards the Jessica chastain about the guess what happens she talks runs away. Can it no jokes. Clowns love jokes but it's better to eat meat. I he just wanted wanted to make sense. Hello three hours. You can make it make sense right for the whole thing yeah. I was whistled. No wonder take a mistress. I can literally not saying right. I just don't like criticize a movie both of you. It's like I want to assign homework to rewrite it like how you would like it. Okay I truly like never understand what your fucking problem. I will you know what what's the last movie movie theater you within like okay I didn't really like Captain Marvel okay. I thought that was candido broker. It's good to hear yeah okay. She can fly but you liked Hustler's. Yeah I think a lot. Ah Did you like really like hustlers. Yes I liked them. ooh Oh my God. It's a real movie. I really decide and I liked it all my God. Did you expect when you left the theater. They were given the money back to everybody. Did you think you're on a reality show and clapped at the start at the end. It's like a plane. Do you WANNA know why because they liked it. Why would they clap in the beginning. You expected that you'd be able to yell at the screen like it was jackass. Did you try. The five I know isn't a lot of material coal got a couple of good ones and I'll give it was slightly looking at dickey's gone we smoke it. I I never leave. The theater was a pack. You know I wouldn't say packed. It was full but it's Friday night at seven fifty. Feel like that's movie time. I wasn't like Holy Shit. Every seat is taken but there were sold out ones and so that we can go to with the recliner seats have been women. Were really into this movie. I saw on social media. I'd see for example cure. FIENE tweeted out My boyfriend got a I got US tickets to. I'm so excited. He didn't know it's going to come with the free blow job ha-ha like this isn't Madonna. You probably ticket and go like this. This was an event yeah. Yeah I went by myself so that tells you a little about me. You were right. I ate a Veggie Burger. During the show with Tater tots also they have food at this theater. You know I would like to see what God couple glasses glasses wine okay. I thought you were in Seattle. Watch it all right beyond the best. That is a fact we always get to the bottom of it. Ivanka on Twitter Bianca L. Brady the instagram Bianca Underscore Brady and she's the host of the podcast Whitey Puzzlement Crossword our where she talks about the New York Times Crossword Puzzles Right which one namely what's crossword puzzle you too. I average you do every day every day every day so she'll go over. I'm on like a three hundred eighty something day street Communis. How did what if there's no day today now doom noche running time to come on this. There's no time where it's like. This is fun but I don't know I. I'm not pooping.

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Donkey Of The Day: Woman Plotted With Father To Kill Her Boyfriend Then Married Her Dad

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Now, what could a father in daughter due to earn all that breathing time? Let's flashback the W. F. X. Twenty, seven, hundred, four police and you'll pled guilty to torturing and killing his daughter's boyfriend. In West Virginia has been sentenced to life in prison fifty, five year old Larry McClure senior received that sentence in Mcdowell County, circuit? Court he was charged with first degree murder in the February twenty nineteen deaths of John Thomas Maguire. McCloy. Daughter thirty-one-year-old Amanda, McClure, pled guilty in July. Two second degree murder in the slaying Larry McClure says, it was his daughters idea to kill Maguire and he went along with it. As a father I can think of a few reasons why you know you probably could end up killing one of your your daughter's boyfriends. You know what I'm saying I can think of some things right but man than her daddy larrea killed her boyfriend back in twenty nineteen didn't just kill them Larry hit him in the head with a bottle of wine on Valentine's Day tied him up, injecting them with liquid Meth, and then strangled him with a garbage back. Then they buried the body, dug him up six days later then dismembered his body and buried him again Larry said, they torture demand for two days before he died. Now, why did this father and daughter murders dual do such a thing? For let me backtrack and reach OUGHTA headline of the story. This is straight from people magazine. West Virginia woman. Plotted with father to kill her boyfriend. And then married her day. I repeat West Virginia woman plotted with Father's kill her boyfriend and then married her dad guess what I'm sorry we'll get to that. Now. Now, let me tell you something about West Virginia had one of the purest times in West Virginia I literally was there for two days back in the day. There was this show called Buck Wild on MTV that shot in West Virginia and little duval and I were on episode. So we were out there for two days when my main job in my and my girl Karen Shea and rest in peace my Guy Shane Gandy, we had a ball in West Virginia. You hear me we had to biscuit world for breakfast and dinner. I want to say we would I could do all they needed I had shoulder squirrel dumpling dear hash and green peas chain mom grew herself everything we had for dinner they hunt grew themselves when I tell you I got love for West Virginia I mean. Okay dropping bombs for West Virginia. Bear. So the what is bare shoulder tastes later I thought you might ask a stupid question. What is bad? Taste like like a a a a media protein. Tinder. More. Stories like I love West Virginia's I don't take offence when I say. A father marrying his daughter in West Virginia. Is. Exactly what the rest of the world expects from West Virginia when you know. In fact, West Virginia's one of the places where inbreeding is the most common I go gate. Okay. But I'm GonNa tell you something I feel sorry for Amanda because she was estranged from her father she was raised by adoptive parents her daddy Larry. Was a registered sex offender. He's clearly sick in the head he's passed all this trauma and sickness to his daughter then he turned around and take advantage. Of whatever terrible mental emotional state his daughters in and start sleeping with her then when she grows to love another man, he kills that man because that man professed his love for her which pissed the father off. I'm no lawyer. I'm no judge. I'm no psychiatrist I'm just in Negro of an opinion I. Don't think forty years in jail is GonNa do nothing for this woman but make her more. Insane I, think she needs psychological help not jail time. This woman is clearly been traumatized in her life and it sounds like when it comes to this thing called life, she never stood a chance. Never said a chance so. There's nothing else to do here would play a game of Garath. What right? All right now I want you all. To get rid of every stereotype, you may think you heard White Ball of biases from your brain, all the prejudices from your brain just I want you to have a clear mind. All right. Don't want you to think you know doc. I don't want you to a soap. Okay. DJ. Virginia. Let me give you clues. What Virginia bothered daughter. cheo daughter's boyfriend because daughter wants to marry. Father. Dj. Envy. What rights? As Caucasian. Why Tell me why you think West Virginia. Mary's daughter? Put. Chain is not a stereotype. His true. All right. Drum listen. West Virginia father and daughter kill boyfriend because daughter wants to marry Father Dj Drum. Guess what race it was trying to give West Virginia like the benefit of the doubt but then you said Meth they. Come on. Man. Well I want a DJ envy android the GNOME. You're both wrong and Puerto Rico. Really No, I'm Li-. Could? Drop. Absolutely carcase. please. Let Kathy know that Chelsea handler give them the biggest. Hee Haw hee-haw. That is way too much. Dan many many goodness. Store shelves everybody West. Virginia. West Virginia probably took us off. With no, we were we were on junior, but I think one many Greg Greg? I'm tired of being called mayonnaise evermore. Without the West Virginia, right? Yes. Everybody else as c. e is up next if you need relationship advice or any type of advice call c e Right now eight, hundred, five, eight, five, one, oh, five, one charlemagne and I will help you with all your problems again eight, hundred, five, eight, five, one Oh, five, one as in the Breakfast Club gamonal you today is brought to you by the Law Office of Michael S. 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Netflix vs Blockbuster Revisited - Dirty Tricks | 3

Business Wars

26:06 min | 1 year ago

Netflix vs Blockbuster Revisited - Dirty Tricks | 3

"Spring two thousand four. A woman driving dusty Brown sedan pulls up to the net DVD warehouse parking lot, she's wearing a leopard print pantsuit and poof, Bob. She pulls a red envelope out of her purse and walks up to the steel door of the warehouse. She's a housewife on a mission. Can I help you bitch? A man wearing a Netflix T shirt and jeans sticks his head out a high net. Flicks customer is this the right place to return my movie, I'm so anxious to get by next one. I thought I'd drop this off myself the woman peers around the net, flicks employees. Hey is that we're our movies? Come from. How interesting can I see how it works? I just love net. Flicks. I've told all my friends about it. Yep. This is it you wanna have a look. As the woman enters she pulls her cell phone from purse. Could you take my picture with that big machine over there? My friends will get such a kick out of it. She's pointing to the DVD sorting machine. Sure, go ahead. And then I'll give you the grand tour. Visiting Netflix superfan remarks on almost everything she sees taking pictures as she goes through what her tour guide doesn't realize is that this enthusiastic housewife is not acting alone. She's part of a bigger operation. She's an associate of a guy named Shane of Angeles. Who runs blockbuster online Netflixing nemesis? Evangelist has ordered his friends his family. His business associates anyone to find a way to get behind enemy lines. Get our Netflix subscribers down to those distribution centers. Tell them to bring along net. Netflix envelope of pretend to be returning DVD. I don't care. We need information about how they're organizing their inventory and get some pictures inside of those warehouses after about a dozen net. Flicks customers across the country just happened to drop by distribution centers for seemingly spur of the moment tours and selfie sessions. Netflix CEO. Reed Hastings get suspicious. He orders warehouses to stop with the tours and yanked down those Netflix signs. So the public can't find him as Hastings suspected all those photos end up on the desk of Shane of Angeles. At blockbuster evangelist is determined to overcome net. Flicks his seven year head start and technological superiority and he thinks he's onto the secret of Netflix success. He thinks it's figuring out how it's distribution centers and website worked together. He's totally unaware of net. Flicks is hidden frapp door. Business wars is brought to you by ADT. What does real protection mean for you? Well, I can tell you firsthand that with ADT the most trusted name and home security. You can get all the latest innovation and smart home security combined with twenty four seven monitoring. I don't know about you. But that sounds pretty good to me with ADT. You can get a system custom designed to fit your home with everything from video doorbells to indoor and outdoor cameras to smart locks and lights and a team of professionals will design install it for you. And you control all of it through the AT, go out or the sound of your voice, and it doesn't stop there. Get professionally monitored carbon monoxide and smoke detectors. Get safety on the go in the car. When your kids are at school, and with ADT eighteen thousand employees safeguard, you there even connected with first responders, visit ATT dot com slash podcast. Learn more about. How ADT can design install a secure smart home? Just for you ADT real protection. From wondering this is business. I'm David Brown. We're in the trenches now with Netflix and HBO at the end of the last episode. Netflix was looking ahead planning to quietly take over the television networks, but before Reed Hastings in his team could do that he had to beat blockbuster. And at the moment. Blockbuster had its foot on Netflix his neck. I hear what you think. How did that happen with net lake so far ahead of the game? How did blockbuster catch up and still managed to lose? Well, it has everything to do with all the amateur spy craft or the dirty tricks. You just heard about evangelists thought he was taking shortcuts. They were actually dead in Shane evangelists plan for blockbuster was to duplicate Netflixing superior website and distribution works, but make them bigger and better and that strategy worked for a while until everything went up side down. And here's how it happened in January. Just a few months before Netflix is fans started showing up distribution centers. Shane evangelist and Ben Cooper the head of marketing for blockbuster online. We're again at the Sundance film festival you see at the time. Sundance was kind of like the super. Bowl with the DVD rental business every year. That's where DVD rental companies checked in on the competition. See how they were doing against the other guys as they bought inventory for their stores, and they moved with filmmakers and studio heads hoping to strike deals. Well, Vangelis and Cooper were strolling down a snowy sidewalk full of people when they peered into a crowded restaurant inside passed an elaborate ice sculpture, lots of recognizable filmmakers studio executives and stars. They were awestruck. Clearly, this was an invitation only affair, and then they saw that familiar dreaded red logo and blockbusters Shane evangelist wanted in. We got to figure out a way to get in there and see what they're up to blockbusters content. Buyer was an old hand at Sundance. Suddenly he took on the air of authority. Follow me. There's always another way to get in. They followed him to the back of the restaurant where a single security guards stood at the door the buyer. Try to bluff yet, I'm Reed Hastings with Netflix. No, you're not Reed Hastings, and I'm calling the police the trio scurried away it was a humiliating hasty retreat and a painful reminder that blockbuster online was not only second Netflix in the movie world it was virtually invisible. But sometimes shame can be a powerful force evangelist vowed to turn the tables on that looks by the next Sundance festival in two thousand five. Blockbuster digs deeper into its pockets to take down the technologically superior rival net. Flicks bought BUSTER CEO, John auntie Akot at handed evangelist twenty five million dollars with orders to do whatever. It took to take down. Netflix. John gave him six months to Bill the website. They set the launch day for summer of two thousand four evangelist was so fired up at the chance to finally move blockbuster into the digital age that he almost forgot that he had no idea how to do that. At twenty eight with no relevant experience. He'd been handed the keys to what was basically a tech startup facing technologically superior rival with a seven year headstart, an interesting guy. Shane evangelist. Former college gymnasts who could still do a backflip from a standing start. He gobbled sugar all day. Twinkies hojo's Dr Pepper mainly, but he had an inexhaustible drive, and he could motivate people to do the crazy things that he asked. That's why anti-oxident gave him the money in the first place and the freedom to do what he wanted Shane evangelist new next nothing about computers or ecommerce and blockbuster had a long history of sucking technology. So there wasn't anyone in house to help him in his deep dive into the tech world. Now, given the enormity of the challenge evangelist did rather well, but the fatal strategic error was trying to mimic only what he could see at the distribution centers and on the website. At blockbuster evangelists created a guerrilla operation of sharp programmers marketers operations specialists. They were jammed into an airy large space their laptops. Glowing on tabletops their office was in a CD part of downtown Dallas, it was furnished with beanbag chairs nerve cannons. A large photo of Rita Hastings plastered over a magnetic dartboard darts wringing his face sort of a cross between a frat house and Texan idea. What a Silicon Valley startup was supposed to look like each day evangelist checked in this haven of masculinity to gauge their progress. So what do you guys have today? Been Cooper responded anything you can think of we're trying boss. We hired people to sign up for Netflixing several states Bill. Tell us about changes on the website how fast they're movies get there any promotions net. Flicks is doing that kind of thing to figure out what made the net books website. Tick two dozen contract software engineers were pulling it apart pixel by pixel and page by page with that Intel they would make an exact replica except with blockbusters yellow and blue colors. Shane evangelist urged on his team. You guys are doing great. You're doing in months. What it took Netflix seven years to do. And we can thank Reed Hastings for teaching people to go online to rent movies. And then we'll do better while the engineers could replicate the site. They had no clue about how net flicks collected and use the data to turn people in net flicks junkies. These data fed algorithms created different home pages for each subscriber. And Netflix noticed when people were waiting too long for their movies were had no movies at all in their cues. This insight allowed net flicks to fix problems almost before they happened and they build on that predict new trends. Alas blockbusters Shane of Angeles. Didn't know how much he didn't know. But what he did suspect was that Netflix subscribers probably wouldn't quit the popular service for a clunky or blockbuster online unless it was cheaper and offered more. So he told his operations manager j w craft to make sure blockbuster online launched with more movies than networks that meant craft had to find more than twenty thousand titles. Practically every non porn DVD ever made. Will it was more than just no porn blockbuster? Corporate actually insisted that the online service stick with its family values that sharply limited. It's options craft had to be blunt with his boss, Shane we had to cut a lot of titles because a corporate sex nudity. Rules, we're gonna have to use unrated films to make the numbers, but we're going to have to watch them. All I whatever it takes craft. He set up some monitors with hoods over them. If you need to just, you know in case anything surprising happens. Nobody's offended blockbuster. Online launched with twenty five thousand titles to get to that number did included some rather unusual options. DVD's fires burning and fireplaces fish, swimming and aquariums. And some rather amateur independent and foreign films, not exactly marquee stuff. But at this juncture evangelist was not too concerned with quality because he was convinced. He could draw customers away from net flicks with quantity plus coupons for free rentals at blockbuster stores. The last piece of the puzzle evangelist assumed was deconstructing. Netflix is distribution network everywhere. Netflix warehouse sprang up it was a sign that nearby blockbuster brick and mortar stores were hemorrhaging business. So bring those customers back to the blue and yellow evangelist knew he needed to master overnight delivery. So he turned to craft. I've talked to the people of the post office to see if they give any advice on how Netflix does things they say we're going to have to figure it out ourselves. Craft learned the locations of two dozen of its rival distribution centers from the consumer blog hacking Netflix, but he needed to know what was going on inside. That's when he only shot his core of amateur spies. What the smuggled photos didn't reveal was that. Netflix is distribution centers. Like, it's website had their own brains special algorithm. Sucked in data from Netflix customers. And spit out maps every six months showing we're distribution centers should move to ensure overnight delivery that algorithm. Found that cheapest delivery routes and calculated demand for each and every DVD. Outside of the Netflix chiefs. There was perhaps only one other person who would understand the importance of this. Mario Scibelli financial analyst who covered blockbuster, and Netflix toured the Netflix distribution center in Long Island to get a firsthand. Look he was part of his job Scibelli walked around the warehouse with its manager. A former aerospace engineer the man showed him complicated charts with performance metrics posted on a wall. When he returned to his office Savelli gave his verdict to his clients snowball. Chance in hell blockbuster can do. Scibelli saw what the rest of Wall Street ignored something. Shane of Angeles miss to as Scibelli put it on scene aspects of networks business model, and it's long headstart which differentiated from the competition, and they allow net flicks to retain the leading position in the industry for some time to come. Shayne evangelist launched blockbuster online in August, two thousand four with a huge marketing campaign and a self congratulatory launch party. He had made his deadline just as he promised anti-oxidants that he would. But amid all the toasts backslapping evangelists new and his gut that blockbuster online wasn't really ready for prime time. The site was crashing under the heavy traffic, spurred by its lavish marketing campaign customers in chat rooms complained that the online version of blockbuster was as bad as blockbuster stores out they cancelled their subscriptions at an alarmingly high rate by the time the initial fanfare died down evangelist told blockbuster marketing chiefs, what the numbers that already told them. I don't know what we're gonna do. We're gonna have to do something. I'm losing customers that I can't afford to be losing because I haven't paid for them yet evangelists needed to make customers what the service they needed to like it more. But cultivating fans will take time that he didn't have. In the meantime, he devised a plan to keep Netflix from advertising too. People who hadn't tried online rentals yet. These people had no expectations of net flicks. Level service overnight delivery, unique home pages tailored to their movie tastes a website that function flawlessly. These were the perfect targets for blockbuster online. Evangelists plan to buy up as much online advertising as possible through partnerships with the biggest ad portals out there immense N, A O L yahu. Remember, this was before Google was the monster that it is today, but blockbusters massive add by had some unintended consequences. They did make consumers aware of online rental but seventy percent of them signed up with net flicks. Anyway. Siaka responded by announcing steep price cut for blockbuster online and sales climbed fast evangelist decided it was time to show boat. Just a mouse click away from a better way to run movies blockbuster total access movies through the mail plus movies through the store. One more price. The Super Bowl ad was a huge success landing some seven hundred fifty thousand new subscribers for blockbuster online, nearly doubling the size of its subscriber base. The Vangelis was so damn relieved and pleased. Then evangelist got note from his rivals net. Flicks. Great Super Bowl ad thanks for helping us grow one hundred eighteen percent this quarter. Sincerely the net flicks. Marketing team. Shane of analysts sheer persistence and a mighty marketing campaign eventually made a dent in Netflixing subscriber growth that flick CEO Reed Hastings admitted to underestimating evangelist and his team, but he assured investors that blockbuster couldn't afford to keep its marketing juggernaut going everything at is this quarter of the kitchen sink. He told investors. When Hastings arrived at Netflix headquarters the very next day. There was a large box waiting for him in the lobby blockbuster cinema present. Kitchen sink? The long day at work tough day at school still stuck at the office. Hey, you don't have to stress about how you're gonna cobble together a meal from whatever's lying around your kitchen. Instead treat yourself to the meal you deserve on demand from your favorite restaurant. Thanks to our sponsor door. 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Dash again, that's promo code BW for five dollars off your first order from door. Dash. Business wars is brought to you by Dell. There's nothing small about your business. Your impact on the communities made a huge difference. As thank you during small business month. Dallas offering up to forty five percent off select computers with Intel core processors, plus get a free external hard drive with select PC purchases. Call eight seven seven by Dell to speak with a small business. Technology advisor today that's eight seven seven B Y D E L L for tech advice and one on one partnership eight seven seven by Dell. As the two thousand five Sundance film festival rolled around neither net. Flicks. Nor blockbuster had landed up fatal blow they were both still in play. But Shayne evangelist believed. He had successfully deconstructed his rivals website and distribution system. And now he was ready to party because he believed that blockbuster was about to snuff out. Netflix. At Sundance evangelist copied debt. Flexes hip moves from earlier festivals right down to the last detail. He hired a dozen traffic stopping models to stalk the streets of Park City dressed in white parkas with blockbuster logos sort of cooler prettier counter points to net. Flicks is red jacket and troops. Celebrities waited to be taken into the interviews sweep hosted by blockbuster and Entertainment Weekly, so they could plug their festival films. Everything was marvelous Dolon just the way that Vangelis did plan. He remembered the humiliation standing outside the net flicks party a year earlier, and he felt it all of apparatus it was liberating almost intoxicating. As they drove to a premiere of the Kiana Reeves film. Thumb sucker. Shane evangelist with jawboning in the company's limo. When blockbusters Ed stead caught sight of Netflix CEO Reed Hastings hurrying down the sidewalk. Stead order the driver to pull up beside Hastings in their Cadillac Escalade. Stead roll down the window grinned. Hey, read you go into the thumb sucker premier. Yeah. Running late Hastings stopped waiting for stead to offer them a ride. Yeah. We're going there to stead turn the driver. Okay. Take off. Hey, read. Good luck. Getting there on time. As the car drove away, leaving a cloud of fumes read stood mute astonishment, the blockbuster exacts may have left Hastings momentarily breathless and befuddled, but what they didn't get was that Hastings had already arrived blockbuster in its peers would soon learn that they were late late for the revolution. While blockbuster spent all its resources trying to catch net. Licks Hastings use that time to leverage net flicks. His outsider status to, cultivate, a new generation of filmmakers who told stories in new more engaging ways. See Hastings wasn't just interested in pedaling DVD's of movies that had already been made. He wanted to make movies. He was already making plans to make and distribute movies. But he didn't wanna set off alarms at the cable companies were in Hollywood studio boardrooms. If blockbuster had taught Hastings anything it was to act humble publicly and keep your real ambitions under wraps time. Warner one of the world's media giant didn't notice that scrappy. Netflix. It's snuck in the back door as the head of Time Warner told a reporter net flicks. Isn't it eight hundred pound gorilla? I'd say Netflix is more like a two hundred pounds ship. That is on the next episode of business wars from wondering this is business wars. And we hope you enjoyed this episode please subscribe on apple podcasts. Spotify Google podcasts. Stitcher. Iheart radio or wherever you listen to podcasts. You'll find the link on the episode notes just tapper swipe over the cover art. They'll also see some offers from our sponsors. Please support our show by supporting them. Hey, if you like what you've heard we would love it. 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Directing a Feature Film and Teaching Acting With Conor Armstrong Sanfey

"Diary of an Unemployed Actor"

40:54 min | 4 months ago

Directing a Feature Film and Teaching Acting With Conor Armstrong Sanfey

"Low podcast listeners. Back, in June of twenty seventeen I had the pleasure of hosting a screening of a film called lift, and after that screening I was able to do a question and answer session with Karner Armstrong Sanford today's guest. As well as a couple of actors from his film. If you would like to see that interview with them, I will post a link to it in the show notes for this episode. This episode is sponsored by anchor. Dot FM. If you haven't heard about anchor, it's the easiest way to make a podcast. In fact, it is what I use for this podcast first off, it is free. It's easy, and they submit your podcast a services such spotify Google, podcast and pop cast. They do this for free. Some hosting platforms will charge you a monthly hosting fee, and you have to distribute it yourself. Anchor has built in creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast. Right from your phone or computer providing you with everything you need to make podcast recording, interviewing editing and publishing. We don't do podcasts for the money. We do it because we enjoy making them, but money is nice and with anchor. You can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. Some services require over two thousand downloads per episode. Before you can monetize, anchor will let you generate ad revenue if you are a smaller podcast like this one download the free anchor, APP, or go to Anchor Dot FM to get started. Welcome diary of an unemployed actor with me. Milo Denison day I joined by Director and. Acting Structure Karner Armstrong Sam free is that? Is that a good way of introducing you actor? Call me wherever you want. Find Harry Direct Director Teacher Director Teacher, instructor? All right. Well thanks for coming on the show and taking the time to talk to me. Tax Me Yeah so let's start by talking about your film. Lift. which I saw was a three years ago. Maybe by this point I, think Oh, my fifty years. Yes seems like it's been a while but it's an really well. It's won a few awards. People can watch it online and Let's talk about them a little bit, and then we'll talk about your this. Acting art teaching what I keep saying acting teaching teaching acton. Yeah coaching acting teaching acting to students. So. DO I. So, lift it basically or my American audience by the way a lift is an elevator and. He had basically. The majority of the film takes place in a lip. Yeah. AAH starts in an office building. I have a high collar office building our Friday night last few workers. They're finishing and there's either them into left on the security guard's going round locking up the last few rooms and he got attacked on behind. A young young man with a Bass I mean knocks him to the ground. He has moment said moment of regress. It runs to the left. It's lift where other five characters are on the security guards. Last piece of energy turns off the power to the left and then falls unconscious. Before he can call the Police Sto, that's how we got our six characters trapped into left. And then it's back their time together their character dynamics act story. If our main character Sean that among to that attack on that it goes from there when you were making the film you shot it in like a warehouse, but the lift itself had removable walls, and that kind of stuff Zach yeah, it was in a light studios, which is basically a conversion warehouse and the city centre of Dublin. Yet, we built the SAS, because we thought to be too difficult to shoes in a real lift that we built this ash, so walls could be moved at the roof could come off, and it could be less property. And then we shot on location in the capability at all the office, so and we shopping coming in and I was the left so through the wonders of Addison. It all looks like it's in the one place. Yet it was done with a sash, so yeah hell! How many days did you spend shooting that the? All scenes in the left interior of the lift. We kinda rehearse them like a play, so the actors were very. Ready to go, so we would shoot them in like twenty minutes agreements, which just you know very rare film sash, so we've got the wide shot at the first scene, which would run for about twenty pages, as though all the wide shots of all the scenes were doing on one day, and then all amid shots close ups were done the second day, so all live scenes for sheldon two days. Just to twelve hour days, and then we had another aced as for the exteriors. In this, because obviously, you're paying rent to the studio for the in the studio, so yeah I. I tell you the story where the day before we're putting up in another venue, which was a converted effort used to be a fire station in mines and I I went over to have a look at sash. Others three o'clock, and they couldn't get the sash into the building so. see we felt out with come apart or WHO's been built, stand in the country under as being transported up the day before filming so It wouldn't fish in the building. So some of us were there is some of the production crew with. We're trying to design. Okay, we break it off and is. Set designers like no. We can't do that and then there's another room in the front to build with a bigger entrance that we that we could get it in, so we're. We had someone else the phone to the manager of the built into there that day Would you mind if we use the front room within? Thankfully, we had our sand person there. Who was like all your? We're on a main road. You're going to have to aid yard every single scene. And I was like okay, we can't do that. We agr eight yards very difficult because agr seventy cents the film and that we had another person's suggestion. Oh, we could, we could look like. This is going a while. I was on the phone trying to get somewhere else. This is going on for about an hour and a half. We thought okay. We got a school hall or something. Friday nobody was answering their phones and. Own was. Going off for the weekend, and so the bank for Thursday we got a new venue, so we packed the van when I to the band you. They were putting up the sash till two in the morning. Now, that's that's Loza emerged last minute emergencies that you sometimes come up with still fire, 'cause you said it was a fire, a former fire station engine station, so the the large fire station doors. We're talking about, but since they were on the street, sound person was like. Hey, look, we can't. We're going to be. Back back room, but back-room had its own separate entrance, which was too small. That's awesome. To blame for that. Person To, producer. A location manager everybody has to take some blame that one. Yeah, that's blame him all lame among. Those producer, so we won't be all just. We got this other venue. Wishes rate expensive. We got it done. Yeah, that's nice. How did you fund the film? self-funded a independence feature I did do one of those online campaigns which raised I as and then i. put the money in. On so I was on the Dole is on time, so I just saved three years. Production abusive governments money so. Well I think so. I liked the film was great. Having, seen it I can vouch for it. Have you at because I know you've you're distributing the film now? Right? You people can watch. It's where we're. Yeah. It was picked up a couple of years ago by Candy Factory, films who then? Fired, so we got delayed because. It was summer twenty seventeen on that company was being in the process that if a month later of being taken over by a bigger company. Screen media ventures, so that delayed the release of the film until everything been moved over to the new company they released an America first and then Arlen just recently, so it's available on Amazon prime for streaming, and you get a free subscription for that if you're not on the. Number and then you could buy it or rent it on Google. Play I tunes, you chew. Microsoft store on Xbox as well after the young people. Various places lunch every. Platform I'd it streaming on prime, did you? Have you made your money back then? Oh, God. Yeah No, Free lunch at the art I. Guess is what it's all right Yeah, well. I mean I would like to make the money back that it it hasn't. It's it's. It's really hard To make money I over there in America though. A lot of people do buy films and do rent films on those porn here in Ireland. Honest, so I I'm not sure about the UK where you're based it's a little of both I guess Yeh I mean I have a a decent size audience for this small little podcast. All my American listeners out there. Go spend a spend a few bucks and help conor out. I have just watch it for free on prime. Yeah, they're yo I mean. Most everybody has a prime subscription nowadays. Yeah, i. what's Great for here in Ireland? Is. Air. Come was running this promotion just. Use Our you got prime for free. If you sign up, so a lot of people are on prime so. If. You're not a sign of seven day. Free Trial and I'm curious about that so I you made this might be more of a question for the distributors of L. S. I. Don't know how you if you know for sure. But how does that work selling film to Amazon Prime? Is it just a lump? Sum or D get like a percentage every time at stream. Do you know how that works? It's a percentage of every time it streamed income, but Abbott percentages can change. I think if you years ago I think they were better percentages. I think now they're really tighten. Hand slide has. Made profit. It's very hard in these watched a loss to make anything. Like like Youtube shirt like you youtube state. Channels you need a lot of hits before you can monetize those the same. You know five cent per hour or something you know. Huge except. Now. Nice a couple more questions about this. One. How did you find? The distributor was showing at a festival and they can to you. Did you reach out to them like a held that work? Yeah, I just screening of American festivals, but I just I just contacted them I did OBA list a tertiary foresee distributors in Arlington's UK on America and in fair I actually I actually thought okay. We'll hear from any of them. That's phone them and be more persistent parents, probably ninety percent of them back, saying Yep sandals the link. To Watch. And then of them, only a few of them came back and the candy factor films read the most. WHO's yeah stick? They loved the film and I. Think I think what's interesting. Is these places get hundreds of links a week? Do they watch them. That's questionable, but I think what I was able to do was. Recounted factory which I couldn't do it. Any of the others as I said one of the previous films they had taken on, was an Irish film and I knew the two nights who were a director and DRP mass not particularly well. I name. Drop them in the email I was like. Oh, I, see if dawn Success with such and such I I'm good friends with such and such. Maybe it'd be interested in this film I think just not just that small name and. that. They had already worked with Gotham to watch. The film and film has stand on his own liked the film I think small thing of from dot name, and perk their interest, and in fact you watched the phone. Yeah, that makes sense get advice of looking and seeing. What else have they who else? They worked with and see if there's some kind of an association, because make sense. Do you find the fact that you are an acting teacher? Makes you a better director? Yeah, I think so. Directors work in different ways Um. Some directors are more technical. They care more about the lands. They're shooting on or if they're shooting four K. or twenty or whatever House in K.. UNICENTER is going to be project to guy while we shot on. But for me for me, it's always about the actors and the script so I've done smacked in myself when I was young. So always been a kind of actors directors. So that's where I'm comfortable. You know so. Yeah, I. My whole job is working with actors so I, love it, and then I I'm getting better at the technical side, but you know I people who focus on the technical side. The technical side, but I was always since I was seven I was always involved in Actin. So that's I think where my strength is yet makes it. You've got a good crew. If you gotTa Get dop in and Etienne's Yoohoo that you can just be like look. This is what I want. And then they can go do it without you needed to hover over their shoulders and focused. Spend your time with the actors. That's nice. WE! We worked in an interesting way on lift. Don't know you've seen dishonest before, but what I do with the DOP was I mean I did I shot US beforehand stove. For Scheduling wise what we did was, he would just come in and say okay. Let's just from the scene so from the same with the actors, and then he's just okay. This is the type shot we should do this. You know and I find that really kinda exciting kind of way of doing, and it worked out really well it. Didn't you know it didn't work for the days the lift which needed to be structured. That's why the first couple of lists scenes in my view. Don't look grace. It got better as we go along because. BURP further into the shoes because we shot it and sequence, but the first lift seen so on enforcing nothing. The first ten minutes of films stick with at it. It looks a lot better in the after ten minutes. Apart from. It was really interesting way doing I don't know if you've ever. Actually it makes it kind of makes sense. Because you're, you're running it and then why you're the appease watching it there. I mean this is the way I would do it if I was dipping a film is then I would be literally thinking of like the best way to get the shots and tell that story visually as well by watching. What's happening on them? Because if you come in there before? If you try to do that before you don't only know where the actors will be moving, or whether looking or kind of what the director wants and stuff so it, it does kind of make sense, so he didn't story board it then now now with Shala apparently shot. I mean you have to have to shot list is? Just so even though roughly how shocks there are. What we kind, we kinda made it up as we went along. I do it again. I would do it again. It keeps everything fresh and. I think if this thing. Look into bit short-listed. He didn't find the like at the end of the shoot through the end of the day. You're like Oh crap. We missed that shot or Yes yeah. At our continuity, person was fresh, and it was still in college, so they weren't that experience though we did have a fun day in Edison. When the entire I seen now, let me get this right. The entire I seen in the left, which just twenty pages we had no mid shot or close up one of the characters. Obviously, we had him in the wide shot, and we had like three shots Abbott. We had no close up on this actor. Happens though what I did was I just took. The same wolves behind them, so I took footage from another scene opted. At overlay different audio of what he's talking because he had good reaction, shots that nobody notices, but Yeah, there were the all time whereas. Reaction Shots from another seen it placed him into that scene in through smutty in there when he was off. Not Actively on the that makes sense. That's a good way to get around that. It's not. It's not perfect, but but it works. You know that's good. That's you know filmmaking That's creative filmmaking. Let's I. It's problem solving. You know It was not A. Shoot I. Mean it was relatively smooth the first few days When we got to the impact last two days, the second heard Nas Day. At today's in the left and I didn't really enjoy those days, not watch. Is the continuity six people in short space I lines you know. Did we get this? Do we get his reaction to that line? Seventy percents of the movie you seen is into left. At the sash because of the mix of the day before had been repainted at the. Stat designer. That sire on home. I have to the assistance ZAP person. there. He was like. Oh I can spray it. And he goes just pray the back wall. Just leave. Black back. On the back wall and I could just see everyone's expression. 'cause we. We had shot seven days. Point at everything looked ready. Go to go! Cameron radio locations, and they just came in. They sold the left and they're like us. You know. I was so worried and so escaped the. Ah True the whole of pre-production. If the left doesn't look convinced it, if it doesn't look good, the whole film will die. It's just gonNA. Die On its you know and. You can watch the film Intel that it's not taking place in an actual lift then an basically take the audience out of it. So that first day, we were all a bit depressed. And we. We had to go ahead and choose we shot, and we had that horrible law on the back wall. I came into second day when we're don't. BE IN DOP had same idea, okay, we're GONNA shoot. First of all the shots need to be more interested in and second of all. We need shoot. It's back walls and a focus as much as possible from all white shots bit shot, so we dating impose production and has added another expense to the bill. We went to paint over the walls. Oh, wow! I don't think I've told you this now. we. So all the black bids in the wall I had to you know. To bed and put it over the Black Blob, so it added. Can't the CGI shots essentially? After that frame by frame like don't know Marius says like. Technical. Aspect of how that would be done. I hope not. Work for the BLOB is quite easy superimposed because center than those the blackfish. sign either side and kind over overlaid the side, so you can take a bit of this and. Pop It over the blog for the black. That was faded and didn't look great. I, it was a mixture, a great and odd painting over. Yeah, I think it looks like a proper lift yet. Because I don't a as you were telling that story I was like I don't remember there being a black Blah Blah in the when when you know it. On. I I must show you. Some Day can show you the Yeah, that'd be interesting to see Akyol Sandia still later. Graded lift an end. The finish lifts. Difference is night and day. It's one of those things that people don't realize how much. Good work in post makes a film Les Color Grading, and all that kind of stuff I think a lot of newer and smaller filmmakers don't save the money for that in their project or spend the time on at that they should you know and so they're like okay. We're all done now. We got A. Deadline. Dismiss, this festivals were not going to spend that much time on that, and this is a primary example of why you take your time and get stuff done Yup Yup. assured the film comes together in in post production. You got to us. Expression you second chance of making the foam. Yeah, if he's. I'm on it and do it. I've got a short that shot your last. Aw, and there's a few things with it that we're having problems within post, and it's that kind of that same scenario had a. it's just been a total pain in the ass to the point where I'm almost to the point of like okay, let's just put it on Youtube. Next thing and not even bother with doing anything else. If it's really eight three filmmaking his marriage and you know it's really. There are times you just like, fuck it. It's it's gone, but it's not on. A Lot, and it takes a long time and you know that's why you happy making a feature film every year. Because it rains you all right, so let's get into teaching. Then what made you want? Become a acting instructor well. You know I drama for ten years, you know I started, are seven and I did drama for speech and drama to love seventeen, and then you can go on, you can do you do your rates Grade Eight, and then you can go onto acting or a teaching diploma. With their UK colleges, but they fly overturned. The exam so I, that station, a no interest in being an actor so I went with the teaching. Sorry, can I just interrupt? Why was why was that like? If you studied acting? Why wouldn't want to be an actor? Good question. Because I because I, even even at that age when we were doing shows, yeah, you know for the parents and stuff and acting in them I enjoy the act in, but I always was like Ooh, you know. Can I direct the scene to the teacher or you know? She had teacher beaten parent teacher meeting at one stage. She said my parents O'Connor's good actor, but what makes him different announced classes is his part, my go fine, but if something with the show goes wrong, he'll be upset about it. You know so. He's always looking at. The overall picture. So May- maybe he'll be a director I I just let. Myself You know I just started leaning towards directing an ad in the latter years when I was so teenager, they let me. I was the only one. In direct scenes and stuff and I just found I found that more enjoyable pull Nanda shows instead of being in them and I'm now still I'll still pro myself into role. If someone gets sick or you know an I have to. I'm rusty rusty as hell. No for me, it's more exciting when on the show or or directing the film looking at all the aspects is. They're just acting but again. But like we were saying that ties into OFI people say I'm a good director at that I have don't act in I. Appreciate. How difficult acting is so I can work with actors. An end teach in the teaching. I started actually in the school I trained. They offered me a job. Doing actually film classes. I I just loved us. I just have to be loved. It didn't didn't even see it as a job. And I come more jobs in other schools an about four years ago, I sat up stage screen classes, which my own school, and still to this day. I I don't I. Don't consider it a job I mean it is a job and I get paid for us but I. I look forward to every day I'm extremely extremely lucky you. You teaches specific style of performing lake. Everybody's all into Meisner. Nowadays or like Meisner I find him useful I. Studied Mice During College when I was in film college on Ab. No, because every every actor works very differently, so I don't think it's helpful teaching them one style, a whole ethos behind stage screen was stage on screen at it's fifty percent. Each indicates eighteen on the adult courses we do. Both I think it's important. A most places as a lot of great schools in Dublin streets in places like, but they focus on camera or most places for kids focus on. For stage, you know it's very different. Ilia, when audition. Kids in particular teenagers in particular, and they come from driving skills. I know how schools and they send their kids for an audition for lift, but there too theatrical. You know they're great on stage, but they just can't rein it in because they just haven't been trained. Zoologist thought it was important. The you know the kids gene course called State Street fifty fifty covert. They act to camera on on stage, and I think that's really really important. You start with one and then go to the other like so do you start with like stage and then switched to Emma or vice versa? I make. Mix It okay so like today will be working on on stage. Tomorrow we'll be working on screen stuff. Yeah, mix serpents, they also they also the kids and teenagers. They also shoes films. No, we do have a script writing and directing as well so they it ready I like on acts. They really do allow so you know they prepare performances showcases. Death Fash Matthew that's the stage parks, but that they also they also rice, direct and act in short films, so Ab and then. Showcases show those films in addition to like short is that they do so someone who might not be fact I, won't guy. Shane, who he was the very first year I was doing. He was eating. He wants to the course and he was emailing me during the summer, and he was really nervous. The act inside is he just wanted to do like cameron directed Message you, may you know? I don't want to do the acting side of things I just to just direct. and. Do Camera on at that stage these days. I'd say well. You have to do everything that that stage I was trying student so I was like. Yeah, that's fine and he did act. You know slowly, but surely the acting side of things, and I actually have given you know He came into script last with them, and I showed him a film or I think we shot a scene and he's going to be at the end and said not sharing is brilliant on camera and this. This was the guy who didn't want to act in originally so. But again you know, try to Acton. If you want to direct you know you should be able to understand acting. If you WANNA work with actors, so as they try, everything is some students gravitate towards cameras for the Acton so good all the aspects. Absolutely when you're working with the students, you kind of look to see maybe where they gravitate or were. They are a little better at so like. Maybe this person obviously has a talent for performing in like you know you kind of encouraging the go that way versus lake either up, and you're like you will never be famous in may be encouraged to something else. I don't like the you'll never be famous. because. I actually got a few messages on on facebook I got really funny one. About a month ago from an adult looking for classes and she said I want to be fair city. That was that was like her open line, a famous actor being fair city. I am so fed up. I was tempted not to reply. Like you're gonNA. Bet this the wrong way. You don't go into act in wanting to be famous, or if you do you know famous or rich, or if you do, you're not in it for the right reasons. You do it for the enjoyment, so I do syndicates the traditions but. I wouldn't. Strongly insist on in a Senate career. Thing as always been diversified, so you do want to go into the performing arts and you do want to be an actor. Take dance classes. Take singing classes host of podcast. You Know Oh. Try Model. Your. Direct script rights, you know the actors who can write their own material inaba waiting by the phone. You know so. That's always been my. I tell people. Oh, I totally agree with that too Clairon. So I had on this podcast, and that's her plus be too is like you know she she wants. She creates a lot of roles I l, and will write your own scripts and stuff, and whether beyond screener on stage and I think that's absolutely what you need to do. You can't just rely on one thing because the odds on you making a career as a performer or so hard and so rarity. Yeah, that that you need something else in is not even the you need something. It's good for you. Like that else it? All ties in with each other. You know if you're good script writer, help your acting. You know Characters and so it all it all helps each other stops. You being Hokkaido for the rest of your life. Yeah, absolutely. How long how long is your course while they do they others viewpoint. Of various depending on what people want to okay. January speak in the main courses are our ten week terms, and there's three terms over the academic year is shorter courses like the naked problems, course which is seven weeks, so so it varies okay, you get a decent amount of adults wanting because this is where I can see a lot of adults getting involved in is if the you know the kind of went out. Out? They did their job career thing, but the kind of always had in the back of their mind like I wanted to do this and you know in so now. Maybe they they. They are taken the time to actually do something. They've always wanted to do and always wanted to learn. How interested in I've had a lot of interest in the film Macon adults or which. which I saw wouldn't get not much interest as just people. I actually someone who don't act in who would like to try writing or either side of things. That's why I'm finding. I'm finding people em-. People I know who are actors onto. Do this course to try the other side of things which I think's fantastic. Yeah, it is with students. Are there varying levels not just in the sense of maybe actors that WanNa try. A directing or whatever, but his I think of a lot of more experienced actors might like do classes and workshops just to kind of keep honing their skills pressure courses. Yeah, yeah, so d. did you have like different levels? Then you know starting students, yeah I mean the case whatever level air welcome to join but adults like the diploma course they have to audition for okay, so they do have to come in and do a piece to get him Yup yet well. We'll be doing on zoom now over the next few weeks. For the awesome, but yeah, they prepare monologue and Ju, just because they need to have a bit of experience and that if I if I don't think they're quite ready. And I suggested the mixed level last year and go on to diploma level has been harder auditioning people online over zoom versus in person. It's not too bad. Not Too bad How do you balance your time then between filmmaking, directing films and teaching? Sure. There's twenty four hours attack. Do classes in the altar. Now doing class Saturday is for kids and teens. GonNa start a slim day class for younger students data. Course are just Tuesday Wednesday evenings, and then we do musical theater on Friday evenings, other tutors for that but I I tend to be there anyway. and. An end the the smaller horses like the film Megan courses wrong just periodically throughout the year, and we also do I also facilitate workshops with cloudy hostage. To three times a year and yet. I mean most of the weekend on Edens these days. You know it's work on scripts and films, okay. Are you working on something right now? Yeah I'm really feeling fired up the moment Because I shot lift in two thousand fifteen, so it's been five years no time to. Studer film I wasn't finished fifteen, but outspent Iberia since I've been on a sash. Especially during the pandemic. Actually I've been sitting around and I've been feeling fired up once. Cobras has died down undetonated. Shoot the next feature. I've three three ideas of moments. At to horror films. A musical. which isn't adopted of a musical? I haven't quite got the rights from the person. Yes, I can't talk to during the pedantic because her phone is broken so lame to meet her at. The so I I really want to do not one next because I think. I think the thing is if you're trying to make a name for yourself. I think lift I think this is a good film. I think it's quirky but I. don't think it's different enough to make a slash if the. Yeah? I think everyone who's seen as of this genuinely. On added really well, put together film, it's don't. Break things for everybody's career but I think in terms of internationally making a smash. In different so like the horror film would be a lot easier to do. What everybody's doing harmful? And I love Horror Films I. It doesn't matter if they're crapper. Brilliant Hara fans are the most. Loyal fans. Watch it anyway even. Terrible. It will make a name for. Myself and everyone involved so I was having a conversation killing mcevoy Dino Kilian. Yeah so I recorded a podcast with him hasn't gone live yet, but it'll be going online before yours. That's or before this one and we had quite a long conversation about horror films and Al Different countries do like you know Asian horror films, versus like American horror films, for example and kind of one of the things that I felt especially in my time living in Ireland is. It seemed like a lot of Irish horror films, just kind of copy. The American system which kind of to your point doesn't make it. Stand out with a couple years ago, the whole in the ground that was. but it wasn't. It didn't stand out in any way in my opinion I don't know if you liked it or if other people like it, just in my opinion, it was just like. It didn't really know I. I the numbers kind of yeah. That's exactly what it was and and yeah, if you're GONNA make a horror film. You definitely need to stand out in a certain way so or just do musical musical yeah I. Mean Gosh People are doing musicals. Now nobody's do art at nobody's doing his goes. Had once I suppose which is good few years ago, but that was film board funded film. You know have an independent foam. Acres do a musical. Exactly so as I know this person who has musical. Don't valve which laid off off Broadway. So I'm GonNa talk to her. I hope she doesn't hear this before I actually told her. Make sure she doesn't listen to the show. Yeah, exactly. Yeah anyone I'm talking about at the. I really hope I can convince her to her baby I think it would make a fantastic home. I'm be something very difference as a teacher. How do you keep training yourself like a in NFL maker? What do you do to keep it yourself learning something new? I mean that's a great question. ready I find. You know it's been couple years since I've done at film How do you keep the creativity own? Really watching the students because they come up with great stuff, know an spurs on your circuit. If I have to write scripts anyway for the classes, anyway, sometimes they'll come open the script. We would have brilliant idea or whatever so you know feats into my creativity I. I got inspired by students just as much as vice versa hopefully. Nice. All right well. We're probably good time to wrap up then lobby. Anyone listening. Be sure to check out the lift. It is available. Lift just less nick. That's right. Lift is interesting is that there is a film called yeah? We had this conversation before they actually yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's lift, not the left. That's right. Just lift. Look up lift by Kerner Armstrong Sam free. That is the one to watch. And, if you'd like to find out, about is acting classes, you can go to stages screen stages screen classes. Passage cream puff stage screen lasts. Totally Green Plastic DOT COM screen classes dot com I will put the link in the show notes, so people don't have to worry about not understanding May. They can just click on the link on ethnic perfect, well excellent. I appreciate it. This was actually a really interesting discussion day. I really enjoyed doing this podcast from because I, always learn so much just kind of how we were just talking about with learning from just people that you're working with their doing stuff with a just listening to people. In this industry? No, but he knows everything. Is Successful Steven. Spielberg says he learns everyday. So you know we're all learning every day and we'll get better. Good Advice. Stand on. We're learning, day we'll get better. All right. Appreciate it.

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The Yardwork: Ep 133: Round 2 With Tyler Straub and Blair Beck!

The Yardwork

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The Yardwork: Ep 133: Round 2 With Tyler Straub and Blair Beck!

"What's up guys? You can't Joan today. We have our guys Tyler Straub and blur back on the show for round two. It's going to be great before we get into that. Make sure you guys ab- scrap to us listening on. I tunes follows check us out pod bean makes you guys check out our sponsors factory baseball baseball lifestyle. One a one. And yet get ready for a great show. I'm here now with Blair back in Tyler strove. What is going on dudes? Yeah. Yeah. Dude. It's great to have you guys back on. I signed for pre show while these questions I have for you guys. Now, I'm trying to make them a little bit tougher. But it's based on web and on social media trying to get a look into your guys everyday life. So but first off blurted, this one's for you. So idea Blake Swihart, man. He's still never answered about the bet. I think he scared. I think he's frightening. I think his hair I think he knows now that he's got people coming after him team didn't even read it. I'm gonna go. Check your. Yeah. I'm thinking maybe he liked popped up like salt like he would like a little bit of the message. And he was like he's like now, I'm not having the sort our winded or something. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm going to go with just like, then you guys know, I think he's scared. I think we got him where we want him. He's fried. He's fired dude. He's frightened. I would be too. I would be to dude. So Tyler man, I think you put us you posted a video of it was you and bregman, and you're with the knelt boys, and you guys were shock on. Right. Yeah. So do I think you won the shotgun. You had the fastest shock on. Of course. They were known for shot gutting. And I wanted to make sure I took first place on that one statement with they said you about it wasn't set something something under the table like locator like damn you crush that. That's funny. You guys ever? I feel like I should not be talking about this. You ever you ever called rumbling? Rumbling like when you. When you shock and write us like a key or something to poke hole. Well, when you rump what use your head to do it you smashed. That's you guys do. Before. I'm going to one time that in college. What am I gonna finger when I did it because it popped a figure, I didn't do any more. When one of my friends, he's known to do that. But he kind of his face nose and fingers plenty of times. Nice. Little slice. Dude. It's it's kind of like, yeah. His name's chrome. This Cowdrey grew up together. Shutout him whenever cyanide. Crumley rapport. He's like, I got it. And usually does a pretty good sometimes even clean cut in half. He so hard as it's crazy. Yeah. No. He had Shane Boston on here. The other day here. Yeah. What are you got on him? Got. Why won't now who are you were? You mean, what is this? What's the context of? Oh, yeah. Oh, this dope. Yeah. No. He's he's he's he's a real cool guy. Shame. He was he was telling me some of the some like, the slang you guys say out in Houston somewhere. And they're even heard before. He said I had big bet like saying like, okay said big bet, and I've heard bet but not big before it and. And. Yeah. Maybe maybe that's the same Boston. Then you said like if you like a song, it's like the song slaps. I've never heard that never daddy that never heard slaps. But I'm bringing these plants. I would rather I would probably say I'm out listening to this song anymore because you just said that. That's funny. I I never heard of that. And then. He was telling me that he's been saying clout for like anyone like high school like unlike come on man, like we've all been Saint Cloud for years. He one thing that I just totally forgot about what we say Long Island. One of the words that like actually has been I've been hearing a lot lately. USA like something's valid. Here that never has good. Like, that's valid. I don't say it too often either by do hear from time to time usually that's people from Brooklyn or queens. They say that a lot for late instead of saying like, I'm down. They say, I'm fit. I'm fit like I find t- I'm fit like I'm down to fifth. So like, I think those two knows asking him. But yes. Do he he's he's a real cool guy Shane I'm excited have him on again because we're the same age, and he's he's Easter heater. He just got a real cool up personality to them. So I do and I didn't joy talking us. Here's a cool guy. But it was hilarious in the video made with us with the St. with the smoke when we were working out the smoke one that you guys doing all the walkout. As the vase game. This lead. Do I even I even put. Any of that together? That's incredible. Yeah. He's a he's cool guy. He was telling me also he was at a Texas. So. But yeah, so do one that nets. As you guys. You guys have the best car rides that I see you're always putting on your story. You guys always rocking out. What's up? You you you're like singing really into it. But then then he cuts Utai sometimes. And you're a new at man, I see you the baseball bat guitar the other day. Just mouthing the words might as well get into it. Sensor, and he doesn't do any just looks on Instagram like wrote, listen, you gotta get into this yet on do. Now. All the songs who's driving the car in is happening because I'm like, I say, you're recording. And then I see his hands. Jesus. Take away. As met funny. Good. So many people tell me Blair pay attention to the road. But like, I I do pay attention. Do it like for like are you driving the driver? I'm driving on his window amount on my window. All got you got you does not that. That's all right. So so you have the off. So this is it's your coal, man. Your car your call what songs or playing sometimes? But like straw trouble. Stroh say, hey, let's let's listen to this one. And then I'll know he's gonna be into it. So I'll play our what what's what's like you guys. Go to songs. What is Hong that you guys like both like we're really into the eighties eighties lily lives lately. Eighties. Some some a little bit of the sixties and seventies. Like big big old school jams writing. I don't know a ton of guys like that. I listened to a lot back then. Listen to meal. Yeah. Yeah. I mean like coming from Long Island, man. I mean, Billy Joel's a big part of Long Island. So I you guys to Billy Joel or what? Piano, man. Yeah. Lopiano man. Vienna. Every now, and then do bunk bust out Windstar the fire. That's a classic man. It's educational man. It gets it gets hyped. Does would I. Would I read the book if it said that it's in the unit venture off in different genres music? Just issue to like side did that. And then I started young I've been I've actually like around like the summers I've been trying to listen more country Evan I've been getting into older music too. I like listening to a the eagles every now on them. Them. I want. I wanted that way. Country been I've never been dude. I've never been a country ever been to a country now eight BUSTER. He. I don't know if accounts if I was really young I'm not going to count kind of because I was like four. Women everywhere. Now that doesn't matter but. If you're with your boys, you need people to go with you say, hey, guys listed. Fun time. Yeah. I just I feel obligated say this because my girlfriend listens. Every time every every show. She comes show. Come with me, we meet her. I'll bring my boys, and I'll be like 'cause you know, I'm the guy who's not single the friend group. So you know, I got help my boys out. I'll be the willing. Man. I'll bring him out there. You gotta you. Gotta figure out a way to still we man while you're dating. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw got them guy, man. You know? I can't you know, we gotta eat together. Man. All all the all the boys. Gotta eat. For yet. Those car they pumped up sometimes watching them. We'll be covered. Yeah. Yeah. Do I appreciate it? They're they're tons. I get in my car, man. I just like the music on the windows, and I'm like, all right? I'm like what would Blair in Tyler doing? I'm just like gunning it on the Parkway. Like under one hundred percent. You guys were also at the the Yanks the Yanks Asher series. And the Ashra swept my Yankees church. That was hard right there. I want to because things though, we watch EP we watch judge. Yeah. He was hitting both those the are the he hits titlis, dude. He absolutely smokes smoked batting practice falls. Never seen somebody he left. Most people are like, okay. You know, I'm gonna go get to gap here. Yes. Yes. He's like, no, no. I'm playing around the world homers red house what I'm doing. He's not even playing the same game, bro. And they're absolutely launched. And they look so effortless off his bat. I I was at the game. I think it was last year. Remember where I bounced on like one of the main section than it like when through concession hit a TV. Remember that? Yeah. I was I was there for that. Last year. He is just he's he's insane. To watch. The guy is not the guy's not human is giant. Yeah. Did you guys? Get a meet them. No. You guys were like you had the super close. I saw guys on the field point that. That's gotta be dope. I I don't know. What I would do. I was on the field. And I gotta see judge. I would just have to make sure I'm behind home plate. I'm not getting in front of that. No chance. I to the side. We saw the side. Perfect. Yeah. I would like if you told me like go play short of an judges heading. I don't know what I'd say, I really don't know get up there. I don't know. I might be like played healthy hugged the wall. You'll get a bigger meant maybe some kneepads. Gestures. Euro give you catch with you. Give me catcher's gear and give me a lacrosse goalie. Stick. Just just just throw that out. Try to catch catch the ball. Big academia Mets. That's funny. Do I would not want to take like a bad hop of a judge grounder to spinner any any part of my body. Do like when I was when I was very young like probably like seventy before one of my biggest fears gang hit with the ball in the shin on grounder. I did not like that my shins. Oh, like so bruised up like most active kids like shins ours like from whatever. And I was always. So scared. Head me, dude. If judge was hitting I'd have like three shin shin pads on whatever just completely bubble wrap and everything you ever get a grander that takes off your fingernail like at one a year. What which one you're the you're throwing hand what? Join the throwing it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude. I I hate when you know, you're fueling ground balls. And especially when if you're not like a major league field. There's a good chance you're on a field that might not be the best like a high school field is going to have some bad, hops. And it's just the worst when you're just fueling ground balls. And you're down low, you don't everything right and takes a bad hop and a completely screws you over and you're the hit in the chest. You get down hit hit you up was like right here in the former your finger stuff like that. It's like that. Rhys right. Every time it. The lesser. Funny where you couldn't you can. Now, I'm gonna say like, I'm like, I could take that pain. I'm not. But I just said, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not trying to act off slowly transition into the outfield without anybody noticing. They're like, hey, play until more truth is. He'll my hand herzlich hell, so I'm going to center the hours trying trying to act up like Nahla uses. There's not realistic. But I was an outfielder injury had the worst baseball injury. I've had I mean, honestly, I'm lucky I don't even. I don't even want to like I don't want to jinx it that I haven't ever gone like to seriously Herman knock on wood. But a one time when I was catching when I was younger. I must've been like twelve this was probably one of the worst ball was like kinda low just just missed the dirt miss my glove and himmy right on the foot like right on the to-. Like it just hit the like. Like the toll part of the shoe it right on the big tone. My whole nail do just went up. That was just that's just the worst. That's what happens, and like, you know, that you completely just messed up your show, and it hurts like hell, and you want to look at it. It's like just cut the sock off cut the soccer. I don't wanna do what you gotta do. Right. That. It's the worst. So then now you have no tonal people are getting near at all, dude. Listen, do not touch it. Yeah. She just pull sock off quick, dude. It is. It is the worst, you know, nail at her twenty walk. It's like it's like tender company days it it looks weird. Like what's going on with my foot and misses it? Right. I remember my grandma would come and she would have like like cotton balls. But you always say it was lamb's wool. And I'm like, I think it's just cotton balls or choose I this even softer. And I'm like the packaging says cotton ball, or whatever, and she would stuff my shoe. So that. I wouldn't I wouldn't be like my foot in there with convoy protection. Dude on their forget a. The next the next couple of weeks after that man that was I didn't didn't play much catcher after that easily either. I mean never much of a catcher literally. Sure enough, man, they put you know, like wherever I was excited to play everywhere. And but that that definitely that ended it right there, man. I don't think I rec- suited up after that. That's one of the worst. But yet do so Blair hand, we're talking little bit less time about do the Long Island ducks. Dude that would be sweet man if you were playing out Long Island. Well, the Shia. I said, you might have treaties. Want to spring training with this Sugarland skiers whereas that whereas a cigarette skiers out of. Right. Thirty minutes from it. Gotcha. Because I'm like, I have no idea where that is. But they there's a saying league is really to. That's dope. They're playing. So you're gonna team. I yeah. I got you best of luck with that. Man. So you're gonna hold be up in the northeast coming up. Liberal bees play. Everybody's do. That's that's pretty dope. I excited do catching game, bro, you're up here. If I'm Jay. I go up to Long Island lady tickets. Do that'd be incredible. Didn't like honestly ROY mean. Mean if that happened menu may be looking at like, the newest season holding holder tickets or whatever. For this guy right here, man. That that'd be insane hundred percent IB so excited to go and stuff like that. So that brings me to my next questions. We're talking about the Long Island, and I saw this the other day on Instagram this question, and I was like all right. I'm going to leave this for you guys. I think this is this is this is a good question. Would you guys rather have to fight a hundred duck size, horses or one horse size? Duck. Good depth size horses. One horse size that. Yeah. Excise horses you wanna fight. So you're gonna find one hundred duct size horses. That's a hundred of them coming at you just kicking my legs. Slinging lands. Doing snow angels displaying. What are you taking duck size? I'm on. I'm going with the one duck size horse to hear me out ready. My weapon of choice for this is probably gonna be like a golf club. I'm gonna give you like a weapon like anything like to to good. So I'm gonna say our golf club. Whatever. Yes. Need? All I'm going to need is a. Not the, you know, the wooden you breaking your mid within the low mallet, okay? Okay. Yeah. You give me a male a metal one just solid metal. This is a weapon, but I'll just get along over. That's the best driver. Because like my thing is. But now that you're saying that a lawnmower for one hundred duck size horses. I think that might be the best way to do it. But like when I'm thinking is if I had a hundred ducks that's coming on me. And I have just like a golf. I'm just whacking away. If I may be able to get like seventy seven out of the way, there's still plenty three more and one of them just gets me. I'm done. I think I'm gonna take my chance with that one massive duck and leisure Duke it out it's going to be one winner there. It's. The question though, we always ask you always do when you do there. Larry. I'm going to have a whole thing. Just would you rather? There. You can't beat them. Would you rather? Did do would you rather our? There's some tough ones out there. So I'm gonna make sure I look hard. So it's talking about golfing. Like, I see you guys on social media Instagram a lot you guys golfing the other day. Getting ready for the masters. Fortunately, didn't make the cut. Yeah. There's always next year, man. Who's the better golfer of you to let's hear it? Yeah. That was easy longer drive. But what what what the putting the chipping? Drives earlier. Got to watch. But he's he's a good golfer. Just got up we had play more agreement to and then seven. Dude. I I was just golfing today. Actually, I was talking a little bit about it. I will just awesome awesome Beyeler podcast right before we were just talking a little bit about it. But dude me and my friends do just not good golfers. I will I will neither mitt that. I'm like not that great enter the sportsman because like I've played like travel, and like every sport. And I feel I hopefully have competed well on it. But dude golfing, we are like a chip-in put and it was like par-three's on everyone. And we're going like twelve strokes each hole, dude. It was. It's tough. When you got a bunch of guys with baseball swings. Trying trying to golf because it's. They seem you would think it'd be so similar, but it's not. You bring is golf. It's not about testosterone. You get a baseball player after Gump was on the if this so for you're never gonna see this fall again. She gotta take sneezy. I do. I know I was starring in the hang of a little bit. I mean, like I've golfed before I probably only once or twice a year though. And. It was it was a Bertel day for us, man. I mean, dude, I never get a Meatball here golf place. That was my first mistake the day, you gotta Meatball hero. Dow's thousand mistake. It was a mistake. Dude. I was hungry. I didn't I eat all today. I was starving. I'm like, all right. Let me guessing here. They not anything. Really I liked all right, Meatball hero. Let me try. It. Not a good idea. Not a good idea to being the sun after people hero playing golf that. I'm not very good at and yet at your after all to. Yeah. No, do I was telling my friends. It was like we're on the first hole. And I was like it is not sitting well with me right now. It was not a good call, man. And then do the damn woods. I we have two Dane in. The woods is looking for the call policeman. See that's that's the tough choice to play though. You can get somebody the TC to play in the in the fairway. Yeah. Yeah. You tell all these other, you know, good golfers. So you come play ball is. Let's see what you should. Yeah. Yeah. We'll sweat you. Let me drive it. I let me get in the woods. You get on the fabric. Switch and we'll see what happens found the right? Sounds fair to me. Yard work. Go yard work golf, baby. We're going to have to. That's that's that's the next podcast. It's just going to be yard work golf. If could be we live games of me golfing. It'd be like guys I'm at a par five here. I'm on shut three hundred twelve and I can't even see the whole. I am in a different county. I teed off on one. But I think I think I'm in eight Sam trapped. Yeah. Often hold one. But the nearest flag. I see says twelve I did something so wrong. That is something that like just so happened at me and my friends, dude. Because like I like to think that we're smart guys most of the time. But like sometimes some stuff that we sometimes do. I'm just kinda like how did we get dressed in the morning? Europe saying I hope that everyone. I remember do like today I had a can of Arnold Palmer and each hold. There was a garbage I carry around for five holes because I couldn't find a garbage. I walked past four of them before. I was like. At all, you can do just laugh, you know, he's got off in your like, it was just stupid. I got garbage. Now, we're good and just do this joke around with your boys. And that's just the best. When you guys like joke around about stupid stuff that that's one of the best feelings in the world. Developed the horses. What we say we say. I think the first thing that comes to mind that Ryan which is what we're trying to say not rhymes, but this kind of meshes wealth, and like anything bad like if we do some stupid this be like all dude, that's horse's ass. It's kinda caught on. So we went from bees we went from DC. We used to always say we still say to now this where you guys way where you say these these these not being EEC spell it. D E. Ec was I mean, and there's different levels. I you know cease. It all got you got you. So we're just like, you know, dais as twenty like, if it's okay, we don't we're not really feeling like odds jets days, whatever it's like if it's bomb and we're like, oh, man. That's that's legit. We like dukes. We have you. I feel like this is I'm gonna like totally mess with us. But have you ever watch SNL? You ever see that that skit it was it was Drake, and he was like working some place, and they'll had like they're the all the workers that had like they're like office like slang that they were that they were talking about. It was it was like you gotta looking up at site. They want like the office line because the guys were saying like how the job sucks when that helped him get through the day is like the stupid like like office talk that they do whatever. And then like Drake's trying to like do it with them. And like there was like different connotations like that like it's dis deuce or whatever and there like different connotations like each word, and he kept messing up. Like, you gotta look it up because I'm not doing Justice. Like that just that just reminded me. It's I feel like I'd be the Drake because there was two guys who's telling them the the office talk. And he was does not getting it. Right. And it's funny. You guys check it out in watching you guys. Yeah. Yeah. You guys should I should straw this in L skit of a. It's Kate within. Yup. And she's doing the experiences like the autobahn all too. I've seen all those historic feat funniest. His like the other two. It's like they had a great experience. And that her she's always like, yeah. She's like not so much for mood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's I know you're talking about. I to put that on after this do another one, then you gotta look up. I can't really say some of the stuff like I can't go to contest where they say. It's called dirty talk. It's childish Gambino down Glover's him and another one of the actresses. It's like Zam getting ready for bed. It's called dirty talk soon. It it's probably my my favorite else. Get. Dirty. All the rest of the optimized it's like I can't say because some of the stuff they say it's like a little bit. Have you seen it? You're not talking about. It's. No, no. It's like. I'm just gonna. I can't believe that that is called. It's called dirty talk super funny. It's gonna leave leave that on your our guys do want to look it up. Anyone who's listening dirty talk SNL one of my favorites? What about you to watch key and Peele? Every now, and then I never really watched it on TV. But like this past summer like me, and my cousins my cousin AJ who I don't know. I don't think you guys met he had to stop doing the podcast. I think. Right before we had you guys on because like. Rules, but he got me into it over the summer where we were on vacation the camp peel sketches, and man, those guys are funny to those guys are funny and. Slut the flatbeds. All my guy that that's that's like a family like treasure for my my extended family Slava's dad is a good one. The girlfriend or wife. Whatever would you say what you saw. But you said that though. That you really said that. So my brother he's upstairs right now, he actually has a friend over there watching playoff basketball, and we just play mini basketball right before this. We've we do like, my mom are how she deal with us because we basically just set up living room to a mini basketball court, and we just play break everything and don't on them. And you know, they're like in space or whatever. And they're like, I looked her right in the windows of her soul. And I just said that to them I was like in the window of your soul. Like, I don't on you or. Dallas hysterical, though. One is okay. What ended guy Jordan appealed it? He's even doing those movies now get out and us. I haven't seen us yet. I hear it's fantastic. Get out. I really enjoyed it out a lot. Did you guys see that? No one else. Finish gonna really bad problems movies. False strategy is movies. You're like melatonin for Strub. You turn on a plaque and your I taste job. Listen, I want you to stay up launches a great movies. Like, okay. Yeah. You look over five minutes later kids out like. You sure, I wait. Funny. I gotta check down out. But to speaking about movies, man, I need you to give me your top five favorite movies. Top-five got think on the spot on the spot for this easy. Here. We go. Joe dirt. Okay. What didn't crash you're sweating? Okay. Excellent movie. Remember the Jining rate movie? Great lart. Okay. I'm trying to cover China like cover all Sean right here. Gay feel you. And let's go. Throne. Another sports movie whatever tin Cup. All right. What? You know doesn't make the list, I'm redoing it. My number five and not any order a stars born with Bradley Cooper, lady Gaga's, isn't the thrown that one. I had to see that are. County guy. Okay, jump street. All right. All right. President's day. I mean, not president patriots day and. Happy Gilmore Gomer. All right. Guys watching right out Rockies on TV. Rocky dude, rocky big rocky guy is so Vesta loan. When I was younger. I wanted to be him. I used to cut my gloves like he did the finger out foot. I think rocky might just miss my list that I do like Ronnie by thing that might be messing my list because I know that after I say my top five I'm going to be like that's not there's another movie, I rather have. Here too. But do definitely dumb and dumber is one of my favorite movies of all time. Great movie. I love dumb and dumber. I love Shawshank Redemption. Graduate movie, die hard. Die hard guy. I feel like pretty basic to say Forrest Gump. So I think I'm might just leave that one out from a big Forrest Gump guy. You guys you got. Through what up? What is it? When he starts calling all the shrimp tree. Retrain, you can boil shrimp, bro. Shrimp, like soon Bari who's like shrimp sandwich. Burger that that funny. I'm just gonna leave that one out for that. I'm trying to think man. Oh, came Kingsman. I love the kings movies. I like the kings of movies one more, man. Oh. This is tough. What? This show talent Friday, I just watched fried movie. I gotta think I'm trying to get something a little bit newer. Maybe. I feel like I should be saying. I feel like my fish show before it's gone, but just for this. I think I'm gonna go with the stepbrothers because that's a classic. That's a class American sniper, all amounts Nyberg, great movie, even to miracle miracle on ice movie. I love that. I love remember the titans. That's a great movie. Trying to think what else we're slow. Survivor lone survivor. Yeah. Yet seen that. The Benghazi Benghazi. It's a good movie I wanna see Indian rhapsody. I haven't seen. I haven't seen that one either. Good movie, but we can't watch it. Now, it's twelve with hoping wake up for workout. Money. So do the movies the movie picks? I think I'm more with with Blair on a on the movie pick some not gonna let the wedding crashers, man. That's a great great pick me. And my friends do like like a classic joke is just like Ma the Meatloaf. And what's she doing? What does she do? What does she does? She do back there. That's a great great live when it crashes classic. My second last question for you guys is do you guys believe in alliens? I'm gonna say, no, no alliens entire universe. Tolerate thing man. Oh, no. So you think this is that we're the only life form. The only lifelong, but I don't I don't think there's aliens that look like whatever the heck we think they will. There might be some other like thing. After I got to be something out there other is Richard. But I don't know about like like an alien like with the is. Yeah. That's what I yeah. I don't think there's that bright. Well, because I mean, we just like someone's like idea of what it was like that kind of got like famous. You know what I'm saying? But like there's gotta be something out there. And I don't want to know what it is. That's on. Don't wanna know. What if what if it's like? Freaking like giant. Things that either. The lawnmower is not going to help there. I'm staying right here. Houston. What if they they like come to Houston? Going to my ranch, and there's only one way in that place. And I got plenty of munitions. That's great. I love that. Yeah. I don't know what I'm gonna do guest to take a golf club in hope for the best one thing. I always do say, though, if there ever was some sort of like alien takeover, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna be on the frontlines fighting. That's what I'm doing. I'm not hiding. No hiding no hiding from me. I'm out on the frontlines of I'm not there. Frontlines. There will be no lines everywhere. I'm sure be swinging and shit. German full red Don affect our maybe like like like a group of guys in front of me. Like, I'm behind you. Good job. I'm gonna be believable. At the first one that died. But I know also like if shit's fan, and I can see we're losing I can open get out of there. I mean like coward. But like you. Or even like, all like, you know, maybe all a retreat, you know, go talk to some other people in like lots better plants take down the aliens saying late just like pausing the game. Just pausing running away for a second. I'm getting back in their water break. The place is serving like some good like strip hobos. I'm gonna. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to go back and get one. Guys. I'm really one more slice of pizza. I'll take my time. You know, maybe get like a bib or never had a real fancy up less pizza dinner. And then all right. I'm ready to go back out. Yes. So my last question for you guys. Do you guys ever Google yourself? Or have you ever? Have we ever yet it? Yes. Could get a picture. Okay. Have you ever done it in like, you kinda wanna see like what's out there like not for picture? Like have you ever looked to see if like God, you're staring like? Yeah. No, no, no, no. Are you guys ever kind like all like? Maybe like there's like an article about you or. You know? I think it's it's different because I can look a mining and probably have like a bunch of random other guys with the same name as me. But I'm sure if you guys your name, you guys are like the top the top choices for it. And you. I do not like some of the photos when when I go to myself why what kinda photos game up. Like flaming. 'cause you know, sometimes like your social media posts go on going line. When you look your name. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Because I take a social media class actually at school and. So the social media sites they have the rights to put your your stuff on Google images. So you could have an Instagram posts up there. That's why they say that whole thing. Like, even if you delete it's not really gone because it could be on Google, but now on your insta- page. Where are you doing? All right now. I'm going to do the same after this even though. I dunno. I mean, it'd be pretty cool. I saw sounds like. Don't tell you this. Is. That's funny. Strange. Some there's some weird stuff out there. But I didn't have a beard in my in my photos what I was with tipped bay. So. I don't I don't. Like, oh, yeah. While Abie baby his flare out there. It is not a good. Look, do you are you gonna shape I didn't shave clean with a razor incidence? Sixteen dude, dude, I thought you were going to be like. Oh, man, my pictures when I was using like Tampa Bay I had like this crazy mullet like went down. I what do the heared now expecting? Bless your. Got a more my dad's got. Nasty mullet. How how long is it? Oh, easy to the to the bottom of the net. Yeah. Yeah. That's like my little brother. He's got one. Like that were like comes out here. It's he he's a he's playing high over. It's like, he's weird hair. Just kind of like off a little bit. It's pretty funny usually where where's it hat, especially now because all the kids on? A high school team. They they they go for mullets. About the whole thing. And I told my dad to cut it many times. But we I got one last question over talking about this. If you like when you guys were younger new high school sports, did you guys ever have to like grow out, a certain hairstyle, the whole team did or like bleach your hair 'cause I had a bleached my hair sophomore year, and it turned out Arend. And it was like that for six months, and it was a picture of me and share. Oh, yeah. Just blonde mohawk. Not all the way to the back backhoe, just the top. Because I faded the sides. But on the side of my head. I had a number three that was blonde to. Was that like a was days was? Was that teeth thing or you were just like, I'm just going to do it? Dude, me and my brothers. We all had a bleach our hair and like. I'm that's like the one thing of high school sports that I'm kind of like okay with messing with unchain. My looks like like like he yellow bro to I I I don't think I pictures I try to try to block out that memory dude of sophomore year. But it was Aren JR. Yes. Trump's drug hardy blonde. So it's like, I don't know if you would look terrible. Yeah. It might not look super different weird. But us, no. We need to leave the hair color. Oh, yeah. Date grown a moustache diet. Can't black. Do you like a motorcycle cop with that? Guy's name on Sisu triggers. Idea. Dude. I wish I wrote a mustache, man. That's a one one one one spot. I'm lacking facial hair is is a nice moustache. Do may maybe next next time. You guys come on. I'll have a nice little nice little this little guy of the of the lips right there. Yeah. Look Caterpillar has had a nice I'll I'll make sure I'll get like price cream for and help it grow better. Grow fuller little comb for it like some like a Rollie fingers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Again, the handlebar moustache if for sure, but I do thank you guys. Throw a come back on the show anytime. Thank you scored kids. Definitely we gotta gotta have this again. I mean, I think it's been like I was looking at you guys came on like exactly a month and a day before or this is a month in a day after you on the last one. So it was gonna be like a monthly thing. Just checking two guys are doing. Appreciate that guys. And you had thank you guys. Best of luck cruciate. And thank you guys for tuning in to the. I'm your host Chaudhry Ganji.

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A Conversation with Ricky Roxburgh (Tangled Writer Interview)

"Hello everyone and welcome to a very special episode of Krona Conversations. I'm Caleb and today we are honored to have the great the marvelous the fantastic Ricky Roxburgh here with us. I Hate Ricky is a lifelong Disney fan. Who went from writing? Stand up comedy to animated films to being hired as a writer for Walt Disney television animation. He helped bring so many of the tangled the stories that we love to life and so were honored to have the opportunity to chat with you today. Ricky thanks for being here thanks for having me Super Bowl ticket get the invite but through. This is how you know you've made it once you're on our show you know your paycheck. We're not paying you for this by the way. I'm sorry we thought we'd start off with some questions for you. I guess the first one is what are you doing to stay busy now with the whole stay at home orders and all that will my contract with Disney finished up in the beginning of March 'cause WE I was like I did a couple more shows with these knee and then that finished in March because our season on monsters monsters at work that finished in the beginning of March and then I started I just did a feature which I'm thinking of another draft coming on that so I'm writing feature but it's not a Disney feature but isn't animated feature and I can't see who it's for where it's from but but I think that's the Freeman which is good which means they'll come out. I think it's coming out in early. Two thousand twenty two so. I'm doing that and then it was like free stuff. I'm doing awesome relations on that. Thank you thank you and then there's always the possibility that I you know. Go back home to Disney. So how did you go from writing? Stand up to writing animated shows for the mouse. Well I've always been a Disney nerd And I use that in that term lovingly because I that is describing me and well when I was a kid. I wanted to work on the jungle cruise. That's what I wanted to do Because I just wanted to live in Disney world and be there all the time work there We've been there once want. Yeah how long ago thousand eight. Oh Wow there's a while I was there then though I lived behind disneyworld than refined. Oh Yeah I remember you. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah we basically like. There's just always a goal like once once I found out that like people make these things I it was just sort of. I guess it was sort of a dream of mine to do it and I can't say that I deliberately like was focused on it all the time because I just sort of it was one of those things that like you sort of wish for it but you don't ever think I never thought I it wasn't like Oh if I do this and then like I can't say carefully plotted anything Like I I. I'm from New York originally and so I. Would you stand up and sketch comedy there? Because that's that's what I was into and like in school. I sort of went that way and then I had I had a professor there that told me I should. I should write movies or think about writing like movies or TV shows so I started like practicing that and and You know reading everything I could. I'd already I'm already a huge movie. Buff and everything but what the thing that really led to it was that I basically like quit. Stand up move to Florida and I was just. I was teaching creative writing and then I wrote a pilot and injured it into a competition That sorry this is going to be a little bit of a long answer because it's a meandering road but Because there is no like I just sent you a job application I I basically bad happened and then I kinda got the bug again and there was a small animation studio. There used to be a Florida animation studio that mule on and stitch and stuff that shutdown and brother bear that. Shut down and a bunch of small studios started. And when I went to Florida I got a job on the script. I wrote engine. The competition got like got option by Fox and like did it never got made. But it's sort of like got a little bit of traction and there was a small studio in celebration. Florida run by a former Disney feature animator. He was the lead supervising animator on like grandma and chieh-fu in Milan And I like randomly sent my stuff to him like I found out about the studio and I sent my stuff in and I got hired and there was like the studio was like a powerhouse of people like really really young young people who'd never worked before but like everybody has worked there has gone onto Lucasville or blue sky or something and One of my basically like from that studio that's ended shutting down Kind of led to like being able to write a movie and you're just kind of one thing leads to another or whatever but the thing that took me back to Disney was the lead character designer at our studio is. He's now the lead character designer on duck tales. And you like one of my best friends he was there and I. I ended up writing an episode of how to train. Your dragon for the the Dragons rates to the edge for dreamworks and while I was out there I went to lunch with him and he was like. Oh come meet this Guy Shane. He helped design. Help design on how to train your dragon below that ended up being one of the CO creators of tangled tangled. The series and Chris was Christmas. They're also you know pro. You know Chris Sonnenberg so I really just went to say hello to them. Like I didn't mean for anything to happen and I like go in the media so it wasn't a meeting it was just them sitting in a room. I went in and say hi and I ended up We ended up just randomly talking about frozen and I was. I always have like a little bit of a chip on my shoulder about frozen not because I hate frozen but because everybody like it made more money so it Kinda get. It's like the pretty girl that gets all the attention and Mike but tangled apartments and I basically I hand to God. I had no idea they were making a tangled show and tangles one of my favorite movies. And so I basically kind of broke down really fast. Why tangled as a superior film in every way and why like why and they're like you know we're making a tangled show right and I'm like did not know that. And they did have one piece of art on the wall or something like that. And so I said No. When are your valuable? And I'm like well I'm freelancing for DreamWorks. Now so right now because when you're freelancing you're not beholden to any one thing so they asked me you send their stuff and that's how they they asked me if I moved to California After they read my stuff and So yeah that's how sorry I know that's a it's it's a it's a winding road but I but there's no that's why like sometimes people like message and be like. Oh how do I get into it? And I'm like I don't know man. It's really like stumbling around telling jokes. Santa Comedian in Florida for a New York. Really poor and suffer for a few years. Quit find a small animation studio that only has like twenty five people working there have that studio shutdown suffer for a couple of years right a couple of movies that don't ever come out and then eventually your friend that worked there will have moved up the ranks in Disney. A little bit and go to meet him and then go meet somebody. It's like all according to plan. Yeah if somebody told me this is exactly how you have to do it. I wouldn't have been like if somebody would've told me how to do it. I wouldn't have been able to like it's Really really crazy But I mean he's just in between writing all the time and working up so when when the opportunity came I was ready. You know but Definitely was with was not a Well I just wrote my script incentive also so I guess you kind of answered this but you were a big tangled fan before you started writing. Yes you're the show. Yeah now. I've I've tangled. His is in my in my top five Disney movies. So it's it's like before before I before I started on the show I you know I could quoted and everything yeah. I'm a big Disney fan in general tangled so to be one of my favorite. Disney movies is like you know it's not just like oh I like I like some movies or yeah. Yeah so the deal and then to get to write for the show man. I must've been crazy. It was awesome. Yeah just curious. What are the other four on that top five. Oh okay well My favorite are we including Pixar. Sure your include Pixar okay Top Five are cocoa. Incredible Peter Pan Tangled and He's a Peter Pan Fan so that makes me. I don't really like the Disney version. I PETER PAN TO I. I like the sequel. I like the sequel better than the original return to never land that octopus just Suction Cup. I mean he's he's more fun than the crocodile. He's not no no. I please the crocodile in in in my fourth grade. Play Peter Pan No unacceptable. The crocodile has four legs and an octopus has eight so like thousand teeth octopus octopus. I love the is in the animated version. How they do the scene Mickey sad now. I just like Jane Better Than Wendy. I GUESS. Yeah. Maybe she's feisty way argue gene seems fun okay back to tangle. I was interested to know how you guys came up with the episode titles. Because sometimes you have those fun puns in there or they play on existing books like the great expectations. One is that something. The writer comes up with Great expectations I thought of. And like sometimes it's weird like like there there when we write the episode. Sometimes we don't have the episode title in mind yet like the title doesn't come to the leader so we'll just write something like I mean it didn't give it a title for production and yes. Sometimes the title is just sort of like. Oh we definitely know what we're GONNA call this and it's the most of them most of them. I think the titles these clothes. But then there's other ones were like. I don't know what we're GONNA call this like example like Fitz Herbert Pi That was something that like Jas Our head writer just just wrote like he was like. Oh well I'll just call it this right and then it just no one ever changed it and it just went all the way through and it was like. Oh I guess that's it is being called back but it's not like it's definitely I? It was it was literally. Just I if you're working title so typically typically the writer would come up with the title for Jesus we'd come up with the title if If he's working or whatever and like sometimes it was fitz. Herbert sticks out is one of those ones. That's like nobody change this. Nobody thought of changing this one and then there are there. Were other ones that like we changed it. Like three quarters of the way you know like by the third draft changed it to something Usually was the writer that we think of it and so the reason and it would usually be like if it was a we look for either title that just sort of says what the episode is or something that was just fun like Pascal Story obviously is like a plane. That's what Ha- that's about Pascal. And then like great expectations. Is You know a reference to the Dickens novel critic Great expectations so And I just thought they had kind of like similar themes or so but yeah usually up to the writer. And then Chris or Christopher in the executives would approve of it Are you the person responsible for the loss treasure of Hers Sewn? I'm not I am I'm responsible for it. Only in the sense I was like in the room. Sometimes like you know helping pitch some gags or whatever she will. Imdb line to me. I guess that's that was my favorite episode of the whole series. I think so whatever however you can cheat into that one props props for that. It's so funny. Yeah that that that one was written by my good friend Dave Schiff And it was Boarded by Tom. Caulfield who is you know Sorry directed by Tom Caulfield. And I mean not sure because the board teams rotated so I can't I can't remember who Who the other board artists were on it but I remember them Like I was in the room until they do some punch up gags or whatever but I didn't write that episode But I remember I was definitely it was definitely one of those episodes that was like really really hard to crack because like. I think it might have. I think it might have been like my fault. See like why. Don't I think I think it is my fault in that? I remember being a meeting sing like why. Don't we do it episode? It's a mad man bad world where like everybody's but lake But maybe I'm just assigning myself credit where I don't deserve it. It's harder like sometimes it's sometimes there's things they're like very clear and you're like oh. I definitely do that. But that's I mean I can't I definitely can't see credit for that episode that that's definitely Tom and Dave And and you know the rest of the fourteen All the way that the that never remember being in the room when they pitched it and You know because we have the the pitch meetings and You know the the crew and the executives and everybody are in there and they're just flipping through the boards and reading it and everybody was like cracking up at the all the different dads and stuff so we knew it was going to be a fun. Okay well we'll just have a few more questions here and then we'll move onto something fun okay now. That the show's over. Do you have any opinion? You'd like to share about Cassandra's mother or I mean Cassandra's father who got together with Gotha. I have I have my I have my thing. Yeah Yeah we WANNA WE WANNA know. This is my thing disclaimer. This is not really. This is not anything not come from. Chris. This is not any. He's not an actual conversation in a room where it was going to be an episode so disclaimer disclaimer disclaimer. It's just me like in my. You know when you're like literally you're when you spend almost four years. I was in that like working on tangled as long as I was in high school. So it's like we're in college you know so it's like you spend like. I remember one time meeting puzzle in the park With my kids and I was like I was like you know and I'm like I'm I spend five days a week thinking about you and what you'll do and we can get you into trouble and we can get you out of trouble like and it sounds stalker but it's really like that's all you do is think about characters and stuff so naturally like when you're dealing with one of your main characters and you find out who their mom is like their DADS. Yeah my feeling is that it's Shorty. And here's a here's my here's my evidence. Okay now sure. He's naturally like he looks pretty old rate but if you subtract twenty years fray and your age pretty fast you the boozy you know And and it was a different time too so so many faster you know in appearance unless you're Eugene And he In the movie he meets gafa outside of this ugly duckling and he's kind of hitting on her so I am. I imagined a scene twenty three years earlier where he's not so old and not so aged booze and Maybe not as Slovenly right and a Young Gospel goes into snugly duckling on her way from having like the aged and So her Her body is healed and ready and they they have any and I imagine that he picked her up the same exact way I imagine he said like. Oh who's this tawdry or like that? And then but it actually worked because he was like younger more handsome and then they sort of an evening together and then That happened And then I so I kind of mentioned this like the movie part is being like. That's why you know like it's. It's like a joke when I don't know that's that's sort of how I how I imagine it going down. We're on board with that. We've always said we think. Shorty is kind of evil. Yeah I'm sure he's the half of Kasane he's good. He's good but he's like I don't know like I said that is totally like the kinds of weird things you think when you're going stir crazy in a writer's room all day you know eating unlimited ams like so it's not And you yes. Yes so that that does not mean That does not mean that. That was the intention and wasn't like like. I said it wasn't Chris or anybody else's intention. It was something that like I was. I was like who is the dad. Like there's definite like it would be too much of a coincidence for the captain to be a dad captains like not that way like if he was you know he's not going around hooking up with. Pia Now Mike Shorty about twenty two twenty three years earlier always hanging out in a bar. You meet people things happen. I mean think about how weird and fun he is now. Being when he was young he did some crazy stuff. Yeah he's away for. The party was probably really charismatic. Maybe a boat. I don't know okay Last question for now now that season three's officially ended. You have any favorite moments from that season or episodes that. Stand out to you that you're especially proud of wow well season. I mean CASSANDRA's Cassandra's revenge is just my favorite episode of the of the series And so so that that whole that whole episode. I'm particularly proud of like because just getting to do with the tent poles and you know be able to be worked on on this. You know on on something like this epic That the team was able to make into the like fun. You know. There's there's like really intense dark parts. I just thought I was really. I was really proud of that. And you know it's like the best Alan Menken songs series in waiting in the wings. Everyone go re watch that episode tonight. Yes Hey Anna. If rapunzel started a podcast what would it be about painting or lizards? How `Bout Eugene Definitely crime or beauty product X. Zone teary how to manipulate your enemies. Toes would be awesome podcast ideas and the best way for them to start up their podcasts anchor anchor a one stop shop for recording hosting and distributing your podcast best of all. It's one hundred percent free and ridiculously easy to use. And now anchor can match you. Great sponsors who want to advertise on your podcast. That means you can get paid to podcast right away. In fact that's what we're doing right now by reading this Ad. Wow so if you WANNA make a podcast about painting or skin care or emotionally manipulated ghosts go to anchor dot com slash start to join us and the diverse community of podcasters already using anchor. Anchor Dot. Fm Slash start. Now we're going to do a little tangled trivia quiz. Oh God oh no either that or singing. So so little sister is offscreen and she came up with this quiz We have not seen any of the questions so we're in the same situation. You are right now okay. Are we on the scene team or rushing to like is it? It's A. It's a friendly competition. We're all in this together but we're also all of this ourselves so I think how this should work is we'll Go and turn and Lizzy you can ask us the question and then if we get wrong than the next person gets shot answering it. Would you like to go first? Since you're the guest or should should we do ladies First Ladies First? I'm a gentleman on the spot. Okay question what? What is the age difference between Rapunzel and Eugene? Oh I know this because I decade twenty six. And then she's eighteen so it'll be eight years your final answer. No no okay so now. Let's let's move it onto ricky Hatton. It's five years five years. Yeah because when the atchison six years but she's I mean she's eighteen. You know the movies hurry. Even if they and the show takes three years and it's his twenty twenty sixth birthday In the in the midseason of season three so she is about. There's no there's no like birthday episode for her in the Third Season. But she's about twenty one in that saying he is twenty six so there might be so. I believe. I'm doing the math correctly. Three years from eighteen is is twenty one She may she may not be exactly twenty one in that thing but he the time line of the show is three years and so that third season And that's also farther like Cassandra. Revenge skips ahead when it's actually his birthday at like skips ahead a few months because they sort of settled before she time line and the writer's room to keep track of all this. We knew like going into the that that the series was three years of her life like so and the idea like one of the ideas that like every like the beginning of like she would have like a birthday like every single season. We're there's like a whole thing in the first season with tracking like planning her birthday party or something which I always thought it was a little. I don't know how we're GONNA track planning a birthday party for a whole season but like the idea that her birthday was was was coming up. But yeah at least in tangle the series I would say it's I would say it's five years I mean I don't know that makes me feel a little better long. That's a big age gap so it would have made him twenty three in the movie and hurry okay And then three years. She's twenty one. He's twenty six point for Ricky. No point grab on to me. Give it to give me a good one. Oh good one you WANNA get on. Okay What Kingdom did Flynn and King Frederick tried to steal a royal seal from legacy one question or something. I don't what can I'm exposing myself as a terrible fan right now. What's the what's the first letter? E E Aaron spelled with an E. A. That's wrong no doubt it. I cannot say confidently. I'll give you a hint. It's a beer beer okay. The twenty she's only only twenty. Okay we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA skip to ricky now equis equis. I feel like I knew that she totally knew that okay. to to zip right now we got in trouble for naming the kingdom's after beers after a while so who voices found spot. Who VOICES SPELLED FOR? I know this. One Zachary Levi correct. I love your favorite character. Feldstein might be my favorite character. Wonder you've of the lost treasure episode. Iv Comedy Gold Anna. Can you complete huck foots ballot own? But I'd give anything to hear you blank blank. Those three words I long to hear I'd give anything to hear you blank blank. Those three words I long to hear yes new singer seeing a sing loud. We've watched the show. We probably I don't do it either. That's that's episode. So I don't know I like I mean I've I've seen it you know but I don't know the The the words that one enough I wanNA end on that note. So we look a little more respectable okay. He was the winner. So congratulations wasn't answer sweet racing and that was a tough one. That was a play deep. Cut Now that we've had a little fun. I thought we would finish up with a bonus round a speed round of questions and the rules for this. Are you can answer an only one word. You can use a full sentence but you can only use a full sentence three times so you have three sentences you can use this period but otherwise you can only answer in one word. Okay that makes sense yes. Three seconds is but one word. Mostly I'm gonNA keep shocking sentences. You Got Okay. Start off the speed round okay Which characters your least favorite Fidel? What was your favorite song from the show waiting in the wings? Well as the favorite line that you wrote this is going to be a sentence answer so the counter is the sentence I mean. 'cause waiting in the wings is like. I can't say just one word with the title I gave you that one Could be a favorite joke. Maybe just a favorite free. Oh okay okay okay yeah. My favorite is The seal of approval. That's my favorite fever and is probably the biggest fan of the seals i. I died at the the navy seal part here animals the manatee and so they're kind of related and I I was over the moon giddy doing that because like there wouldn't be like trevor couldn't be in an episode like it wasn't like that was a rule it was like like I wouldn't do it if I didn't have like a really like so. It was like almost bringing him in. Wh How am I going to do what the fact that they were honest ship was all to get to that joke like it could have been? It could've been anywhere like it could have been you know wherever wherever trevor was taking them could have been anywhere you know but like it was specifically. I was like okay. Well Navy seals thing so they put him in a boat. So that's why like a like an we even kept it from the crew like what that joke would be so that when he was pitched it was like. I'm sure like you know there are people like the fourteen. Whatever the hurt but like so for for the pitch like the whole team if you like Like cringing sorry. I love it way too much. It's so bad I appreciate that so much. Funny we were talking about What Cassandra might do once. She left corona on a couple of episodes ago and I think Anna theorized that she would become captain of the guard for the seals I like you got to full. Sensors left them. What is your favorite color? Green Very unbranded wearing my favorite. This is my favorite South Africa. Oh I have asked that question. I wrote all these questions by question. As what which hosted your favorite of chronic conversation pass. Both I'll say word. So what was your first job as a kid or Did you have a weird first job or my first job was working in. Cvs Pharmacy a CVs without a pharmacy. Which was weird so people would come in. Who is just yeah? It was like so people would come in expecting that. They could fill our prescription and we'd be like no. We don't have a pharmacy of like what turn around and walk. I was I was just like in this era. Ghent sixteen year old kids. I was like I was like yeah. Obviously there's no pharmacy like but it's a CBS. And like. I thought they wouldn't someone's if Republican Eugene had a kid. What were they thought about this week. This isn't even characters could assay shelled Spar Junior. That'd be that would be a very dramatic situation Virginia Even though they both have the same voice I would say if it were well. Okay for Roy Eugene would give it a cool name because he grew up without a cool name so I think yeah so I think you name Him Flynn for real. Maybe I don't think he would name him. Flynn because I feel like carries a negative connotation for him but I feel like he would name him something like like Raven or something like that. But rapunzel wouldn't let them name him that so this is really Wow this is like the hardest question because I feel I feel like this is the kind of thing I would have to like brainstorm in the room with everybody and throwing things out and then I wouldn't. I wouldn't think so awful awful at noon people awful but they're both such different people. They'd probably traveled aside into okay. You know what I would say. I'm going to go with. His Dad is named Edward. So I'm going to say hey. I'm going to see where puzzle would Edward Frederic or Frederick Edward Anyway after the parents and depending on dead Fred I don't know who would be the first. And who would be the middle and then for the daughter daughter I would say with one and artsy name or something. Something really out there hippie. Something my instinct. My instinct is my instinct is is willow On after the or or she would keeping him with the flower theme something like Lily. Oh yeah so I go there. This isn't part of the bonus round. I just thought of this but were there ever any plans to bring willow back at all for another episode. There was there was an episode that we were thinking of with willow for the third season there where he's just such a cool character. Yeah I missed her was I don't know I think I think it just might have kind of fallen away in the. The Times that we did have we did have plans for for another willow can live on in our heads enough forgotten. If you could pick one best friend to have from the series who would be your best friend scowl listener human human. It would be. I guess fun friend. I guess he inlands our good friends. Okay if you had to pick. Would it be cure? Or Catalina this Catalina. Ooh She's nicer turns into do you some favors and her wolf form intimidates Indiana. She's she's more. My speed is Republicans. Last name Corona no follow up question. What is her last name? Who remains a mystery might be of Corona? But Yeah I mean. I don't know that I guess now I guess? Now it's Herbert. Yeah that's quite any refunds will fit server okay. Well that's going to wrap things up for us You have any questions. Oh yeah an house. One more question so Since you are fan of stand up comedy I was wondering. Do you like Marvelous Mrs Mazel. Oh Yeah of course. Didn't mess you up at all. When Zachary Levi came onto the show. Because I was so hard for me because I kept thinking of Eugene whenever I heard him talk and I began to love his character and like got used to it. But I threw me for such a loop I was like. Oh my gosh Eugene. But I don't know what's happening. There's a short the you kind of Nuwari short short. That where he he does that kind of man that Kinda voice which was fun so there's sort of a blending of the two it doesn't I mean like 'cause you see him. It's weird like the thing that threw me for a loop the most with respect to. It's like because once you you know you see them in person and you meet them so it's like. Oh that's a person that I've met. That's on that show. So that's more of the weird thing Yeah and then like I remember the week like the weirdest thing was the first time we had. It was the first time I met. Him is the second time but there was a we had A. We had a story meeting where you're kind of presenting the overall arc and everything to him in him and Mandy and so they were both in the room and we were. It was the first time I'd ever been in a place with both of them at the same time and I remember like sort of like looking down and there's only a six of us in the Mesnier whatever and I'd like look down at the table deliberately not look at them so I could just hear them like Jean talking and then lake so that to me was like the. That's like the most free but like seeing him like when I am it's like it's a little bit weird because you're like like that's not true. Sam I met him. You know but it is. You know so it's Yes yes But it's cool to see him on there because the thing about him is that he's like works. He worked so hard and he gives like you know really like gives a thousand percent when he's on the show so it's like whenever whenever I see him doing anything. I'm always like pleased because like he whether it was our show or or that. You know it's like you know. He's given a thousand percent so you're like proud you know like he's doing good. Thanks for answering all our tangled and on tangled related question of course to. It's been a pleasure having you on thinking on the balanced before we sign off. Thanks again to Ricky for pain visit. If you enjoyed this episode you can continue the conversation on twitter at Corona podcast by email at corona conversations. That you come and leave us a review on itunes if you feel so inclined until next time. This has been corona conversations. Join US next week for new episodes or not quite done yet. 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"Hey everybody. Aj Benza here with famous bitch. This is your daily unfiltered podcast for September Seventeenth Twenty nineteen flying by a couple of things to talk about today that just Kinda hit me in my nerve. All I wanted to bring up. I kept saying saying that was going to bring this up on the show and I haven't yet but the other day one of the famous one of the fame fam- people made made a comment about Eric Roberts doing a commercial on TV. I don't know if he was doing reverse mortgage or one of those commercials that eventually most a lot of celebrities ended up. Doing this person was poking fun at era and the people came down on adult say even I said you know guys got to make money can't handle it. Someone who's trying to earn a dime. You know we all have mortgages and Shit and whatever the bills to pay and back patches who knows y but the person. I think it was Dana got all. I'm sorry I wrote that. Don't worry repulsively. It's no big deal you posted. We've all seen commercials with celebrities on TV and we go holy Shit. What what are they doing this. I mean Ed McMahon was very famous for that. Guy was making a fortune between star search and the frigging company celebrity sweepstakes company and the tonight show Ed McMahon had been fortune but he was a fortune in debt to and I was just saying I can't complain about that because when I was flat broke and living with my sister you so you just it's so different than Roberts. Eric Roberts has an IMDB page. That would blow your mind. He may have been in three hundred movies. You love but this sky is done about four hundred things he's been in everything and every time he's in something he's good. He just got caught up getting cast in these roles as the bad guy in the crazy guy in a cookie guy because for a number of years he was hitting the liquor heavy and he was hitting the cocaine heavy and he was fucking nuts but in terms of of a guy that had so much promise him and Mickey rourke coming out public Greenwich Village. I mean Ben Affleck and Matt Damon had nothing on those two nothing but you know everybody's different Eric Robertson Star Eighty. He was a phenomenon runaway train. He's done some good stuff really good stuff. He's a Kook. I know stories about them. I've hung album. He hit the liquor pretty hard. Julia Roberts's sister wouldn't talk them for a long time. It's amazing. His daughter is well. He's thought is not all that. She's cracked up to be either because her father was always around but I think they're they're getting along again in him and Julia Roberts get along again but for a long time Uncle Eric was the way to one of my best his friends who died now. Kevin Doernen did one of the best impressions of Eric Roberts and was very short it was an impression of Eric Roberts because he used to live with him and he would listen to him talk to his girlfriend Kelly on the phone and he called Kelly was drunk back and Kevin did an impression of Eric Roberts calling his girlfriend. Kelly begging to come home and all he would say is Kelly but Kelly. I'm sorry carelessly even on forever and it was his funniest fuck anyhow. I just wanted to say that when when I was flat broke down my back and living with my sister you meet the people that you want me to people who have these deals you the people that put you back on the map. Hey listen you do a couple of you. Know what you're back on TV. You know don't work that way. If I do a couple of these on finished okay but I gotTa do a couple of days because that got no money anyhow some Guy God bless and Damon Frank. He's offensive Pennsylvania Guy Philadelphia Guy. He's got an puts together. Those fights heights but celebrities. Lenny Dykstra is going to be fighting the Bego guy from Long Island. Okay so daming. Somehow Matt me new me whatever he goes on putting on celebrity celebrity boxing matches in in Philadelphia want you to want you to fight sewn saw wanted me to fight Jeremy Northam all these fucking. I some not going to fight anybody. It's a stupid I can't. I'm so mad I get the ring. Someone's GonNa get fucking hurt now. How about you judge a competition. I said judge I gotta get to Philly and judge a boxing how much and it worked. I worked up to fifteen hundred dollars and I'm like well daymond doing but I'm getting cashed at night and not GonNa get checked. That's not going to clear clear a week late. I can't do it so actually I went to the city and I'm supposed to judge boxing contest. I go to Manhattan. I wait wait for this thing called the big bus that takes you to Philadelphia. It's like a ninety minute ride not bad too big. fucking windshield is it's a pretty quick ride. It's uneventful in full and he's put me up in a hotel. Nothing fancy just enough that I could get up. I don't care put me up in a fancy place. Someplace I can fall asleep and get ready to go and then work and I'll leave the next day and he put me in the fucking hotel that let me tell you something it was on I think the Delaware water gap or somebody of water that was petrifying and it was freezing cold and the door to my motel while had no luck so she's the door to door that anybody can walk in crackhead and it wasn't in the best neighborhood I know right next to the motel was a liquor store and next to that was a place with a cast checks. This is what happens okay so doing a reverse mortgage. Loan Commercial is heaven. You get to sit down I and give you a bunch. You got a nice paycheck coming here. It's going to clear Thakin's Evan but I go. It turns out. Oh I change it. We're not doing the boxing axeing because I couldn't get the permit but we're doing a I. I was able to put together. A celebrity. Pillow fight walked yeah. Is Anybody Ever GonNa see this Damon. I don't think so but listen. These people are really into hoes. Five new optimum is get a fight Tonya harding with pillows. It's either pillows or really big. Boxing gloves like like a hundred ounce clubs. uh-huh this is getting worse by the minute but back home on Long Island. I got a family. That's Daddy's got to bring home so money so a buddy of mine johnny pain and one day. I'll tell you stories about johnny pain a terrific fucking guy at ex-paratroop but he's he's a Pennsylvania Kid. He's not a kid. It was an Afghanistan guys like him or the reasons why America is just the baddest ass country in the world these guys that jumped out of fucking planes at night and killed people so we can be safe. They killed people who are looking to kill us and change our lives but johnny pain not his real name sees what is going on. CONC- selling t shirts at this fucking anomaly and he saw in t shirts for a company he's got called villain and Johnny's got tax over his face and neck enhanced but for some reason he looked like he was very trustworthy. I tell him what's going on and goes down. I'm GonNa put you in a different place. You're not gonNA fucking sleep at that motel them no lock in the killed. I said yeah they put me in a hotel. That's a decent Hotel Okay Hilton Type Hotel now. I'm talking about between going to the city getting getting the bus ticket what China might have been eighty bucks. I'd forget Johnny. Damon couldn't pay me the fifteen hundred told the next day you know there's always a bullshit thing. I got no money on me. Nothing I'm in the hotel with nothing honky monger. I was drinking red bull and Vodkas at the stupid event because I wanted to forget. I was ever ever there and I do too. fucking pillow fights disgusting and I'm next door blonde girl who thinks this is a shot to become famous as is a television houses. I figured a name but she's blonde and she's fully piss and vinegar and she's GonNa make it is and I'm like Oh honey. No idea so I get to the hotel got no money and I'm starving. What do I do. Here's why can't make fun of Eric Roberts doing a commercial or anybody doing those commercials because his what I did. I walked around on the hotel floors. It was after dinner. It was like nine thirty and you know what I did. This sounds so disgusting but I don't give a shit people had trays trays outside their ruined their room service trays and you'd be surprised about with with a lot of people don't eat and I start looking at a couple of days next. Remember WanNA WANNA go. This motherfucker left seven eighths of a rabbi. Let that go and took the fucking rib. I I didn't think the plate I took the rebinding. Napkin and I brought it to my room and laid it on a fuck in other a plate I found into cabinet whatever and I had a rib by someone else's robot that I couldn't even warm up up the point is this how am I to make fun of Eric Roberts to doing reverse mortgage or whatever the fuck when I'm grabbing rib is La someone's room service plate if the judge in a fucking celebrity pillow fight between the MOM and Tanya harding so I've been down to the bottom commercial that Roberts is one of the one of the best US jobs I can hope for one his age all right. Oh but in grocery out too much but that's the truth. That's the downside of Hollywood. If you WANNA call it that that's what's the downside of fame. If you WANNA call it whatever the fuck it is. It's out there. If you live long enough you don't do the the wise things with your money any so beware so we all know the story now that. Shame Gillis this kid is not going to be joining Saturday night live because it is controversy Chrissy surrounding his racial slur usage and the people that NBC who by the way you know a few months ago there was a book out that Said said that Lorne michaels was telling Chris Catan to fuck amy heckling because she was producing a movie directing a movie llamas producing and it really would help nope so you've got Lorne michaels telling his staffer to fuck a female really get in there and do one for the team. That's allowed. We elect that goal but this. Guy Shame Gillis who really I don't think this guy was gonNA amount to much just from the look of them but he gets in trouble and he loses his spot on SNL. Because you know look snl we we we hard chain on the strength of his talent as a comedian is as impressive audition. I'd love to see his audition. I'd love up to seize audition because if there's a dish it had anything in it resembled the Chinese accent then there's such fucking hypocrites but let's let's say that but they get get rid of them because you know they got this new guy they hired to the first asian-american. Boeing Yang who's not going to be funny at all because loss and if you WANNA call me a racist right ahead how many Asian people knock you down with jokes. How many I'll wait. I know the first one you've thought of. He's not funny can joan. He's not fucking funny. He's terrible those fucking. He's terrible terrible. We've made him the token funny Asian and he's not funny why because he jumped out of the trunk in the fucking Bachelor Party movies with as Little Dick and he ran around. That's it's a best comedy. It's disgusting and if anything why are we getting married that movie showing Asia's with small Dick's we all know they have them and that movie showed it but that's fine that was one of the highest grosses grossing comedies ever launched Bradley Cooper into superstardom but Shane Gillis is not allowed to be on a podcast and talk about New York City our city and say chinatowns fucking nuts it is I did the Chinatown Thousand Times a thousand. How about a million times I lived around the corner from my talk. Show was based in it. You you go past these stores where they sell fish and it'll be fucking carp in the window and a fish tank must be three hundred gallons. There's carved upside down begging for oxygen oxygen to the top of the tank sixteen number dead and someone's going to put their hand that water and take on a carpet and cook it for lunch. It's disgusting. I've seen fish deliveries. The fish falls on the ground of Manhattan with his diesel oil and cat piss and crackheads spit and they put it right bed in the box so Chinatown is disgusting. It can be very disgusting all store you lose your cat. If you live in the Greenwich Village your cats missing believe me. He became Mughal Guy Pan. no-one adopted him. He's he was beaten. He said Chinatowns fucking nuts and he said about vow Chinatown itself which the stinky mess let the fucking Chinks de. That's what he said. That's what he's then. They both talked about. They they pronounce the words like noodles. They called neuters because they do say neuters who cares who cares you know you can be made fun of Italians kgo eight AH LO. Why can't we say he should say news. What's the big deal. What is the big fucking deal. You know that's the way Asians talk. It's not a real put down the put downs Carwyn Eddie Murphy doesn't Asian or when they hire American actress to play a High Right Matt Damon to play Asian conqueror. That's a fucking put down that still made it to theaters chick on mad TV Miss Swann on. I saw every teen okay everything I tell you I saw. He looked like man. Character was hysterical. The copy like yes I I know you saw the subject when his face looked like yeah every king I tell you a man. He looked like a man. I know lie so that kind of comedies out now can't do it anymore. More but the Sopranos and other shows that highlight the Wade certain nationalities speak. I got news with fucking proud of the way we speak Miss Swan. There are Asiana proud of that kind of language that Old Lady Speak Look at Eddie playing one of the most prosperous wealthy young American Asians who was kicking taking ask with restaurants books movies. He's the kid that wrote the book that became the TV show fresh off the boat. This motherfuckers amazing in your kid he gets it that Asia's do things a certain way and that's the way New Yorkers always been. It's a melting pot. We build on each other's bullshit. We don't just keep making fun of you you and if we do make fun of you because we accept you. Hollywood's got it all wrong making fun saying let the Chinks live. There's not a put-down. It just isn't man. It's not you know some if he said I fucking hate all chinks yeah. The guy's guys got a problem we can't have. Mon- TV OF COURSE I get it. You know it's just it's getting to be such bullshit. Miss Swan had the fucking squinty eyes it. She put her in a move. They made her walk three days or the time. She shuffled their feet. We get it. We've all seen that Asian lady behind the Counter Center at the Chinese restaurant or wherever the fuck you going and don't give you start on nail salons you girls have made fun of Asian. Nail Salon people forever. How do you think the same some nice about you to the girlfriends but they're all cursing you white girls you black girls for your nail preferences. That's been a joke. That's been done a thousand times on the last. Five years knows comics fun. I just looked at the Guy Shane Gillis look. I get edged it. His stick is on the white trash guy all right so there's viewpoint that conflict but his comments weren't even actually jokes just racist comments racist ish rush comments but I love to know does audition was but if you look at the guy you really look at the guy he wasn't ever going to be a guy who was front and center senator on that show. He wasn't going to be the go to guy in those skits ever. I see them on you. Two Zero Star factor zero it factor you know it's just but it's important we dissect chinatowns fucking nuts people if you go there. It is fucking nuts. It is how many of you have been there. How many have you seen what my beloved little. Italy has become because it got swallowed swallowed up by Chinatown see chinamen selling Zeppelin or cows on the last ten days in September at the San Genero fees what is going on right now. New York City's largest and longest running Italian festival on Mulberry Street in the heart of literally right now the last ten days in summer always goes on every a year and if you hurry you can go find somebody that you can get a Chalupa prepared by Russian lady on the Chinese side of Auburn Street. That's what that fucking festival has become. It's an eleven day salute to the patron saint of Naples tomorrow night. You got the Zeppelin eating competition Thursday. We got a big mess celebrating the patron saint of May of Naples at the shrine church on Baxter Street Saturday the annual meatball eating competition memory of Johnny Johny Chart Shot Love Johnny Chung WanNa got. He's the guy that I told you we made a little a little movie called revolving doors where me and Willie demeo had to shoot Chris Chris Maloney we have to assassinate him on the street with guns and Mulberry Street. Maybe is four stories high the most maybe five mostly three and four storey buildings and and these little old ladies have been there forever they had gunshots eight mafia so you've gotta get permission to shoot a gun on mobile even fake gun and I tell you the story but the COP calls came down to set 'cause we had used a gun a couple of times squibb's on Crisp Maloney's body. He was GONNA get shot up in a doll by me. Willie and the cops showed up but the fucking siren would they let us up what's going on guys. Here's the permit will make a movie but papa you got permit got permission to shoot the guns on Mulberry Shaw Ah with the Mayor's office. We got this permit here. This is no no no. Do you have permission to shoot a gun. I'm older street directed John Gala Director. I forget his name is going on his his the mayor's. I don't care them. I don't care what the mayor's permit do you have permission and we should oh you mean from Johnny cha-cha exactly so yeah. Johnny's in the movie he knows knows all right. See you guys in the copter off. Love with business was done that way. It's not about the mayor it's about what Shiny Cha allows on mulberry extreme anyhow he's gone so the meatball eating contests and is on wish. I was there but for a number of years. Now here's what's going on. Our parents used to tell us the Chinese a common with suitcases full of cash. They're buying up the buildings and the young Italians are selling them because their grandparents parents are dead. They don't want to live in little tiny apartments on Mulberry Street and has and Mart and whatever the fuck and they're getting rid of them. They can't turn down a full release of cash. VALISE is the China's income and with releases of cash and they did they weren't hitting. There's a couple of guys Mario Kart ball another another guy they have this. Teresi Italian specialties on mobile and they host the booth every year and then not getting a little corky lately really yeah. It's got some Italian you know cows on can only what have you but all of a sudden you start looking in some chinatown food on the menu. You can get walk. Walk Fried Mozzarella sticks. No thank you not on San Genero. You can get a roast pork sandwich. That's like a chart shoot bow. I don't want that onset. Genero cream puffs engineer to taste like custard buns. Go Fuck Yourself. Thank you very much. I don't want it what bothers aww about San Genero part from the depressing Chintzy fuck inside shows shit little things they give out and they charge a five dollars per softball throw to get some little shitty teddy bear. It's just this feeling of decay that sad the feeling that the neighborhood's going every Sunday used to go to all the shops and the fresh mood set al the fucking best sausage the best hung Sir Cheese Luke Catella Romano and my sister Rosanne then we cook all day it's over. It's all over now. What are we going to bring a pork fried rice. It's over and it said the people there that like this fucking haggard and tired now at this festival they don't WanNa be there. It used to be a joyous occasion guys who lived on Mulberry Street in the village who literally who had mafiotized who literally when you're born into a family who has money in the feast you are literally given a percentage of a section of sidewalk that is yours for life. You see this piece of footage from the Raven is social club up the Buffet Papa. This is Allah piece of footage. This twenty three feet is outside walk for the next the next hundred years of San Genero fees and we can put whatever the fuck we want on the sidewalk. Come the last ten days of September every that's the way it used to be. I don't think it is that way anymore. It's become so depressing because it's a neighborhood with absolutely none of the Byron see it was it was famous for when people tell you they went. Downtown had some great food little illegal home. I got a fucker you talking about you. Got A few red sauce joints and people telling you come in with the menu outside. That's not good eating. That's not the way Italian feed. You don't be fooled by that. Even Arthur Avenue in the Bronx is falling down but you hold a Patriot you hold a festival for the patron saint of Naples in the neighborhood which is predominantly dominantly Chinese. Now it's strange because on top of being Chinese you got `Ecuadorean food vendors selling empanadas and Peruvians giving you a piece of state doused and Salon Control Olive Oil Dan Italian this apart there was there was a episode of the Sopranos always got me in the harm because it's so fucking true and I'm so glad David chaste including it because he knows what I know what we all know it's over this is seen with the New York mob and the New Jersey mob vying for territory there are war and they often these guys in New York the little Italy and there's One t seen in one of the episodes which one of the New York mobsters gets lots while his his buddy is not whacked and the buddies thoughts running out of the fucking place he's running down literally going through crowds of people and this guy's looking frantically where to go on a tour bus passes and on the tour bus you hear guide say something like and if you look to your left this little literally it used to be thirty blocks but now little more than one st three Brockton lands having been swallowed up by neighboring Chinatown. It's exactly what happened open. The point of the scene is I. It's just it's just depressing. What's happened and this is exactly what what's happening in San Genero. It's it's all going to be Chinese very soon. It almost is now. The last gasp is here. I'm bringing this up because the festivals on this week and I'm saying and this fucking talking about Shane Gillis saying chinatowns not doesn't bother me at all and if it bothers any Chinese people fuck you. It's the truth and you know it. You know you took over literally you know it's I have deep respect for people keep traditions alive but our experiences. I took my kids when they were young just to say I get it but it's left me with the impression that it was only the tradition that was left. None of the substance in I don't WanNa fucking in by I love Guido t shirts especially when the person's telling him as a Canadian woman from fucking Philadelphia and sausage peppers vendors from a company Delaware Louis at a New York while I'm out of life. See The through the store Ikea got in trouble posted a picture for a jerk chicken recipe with rice and peas they were slammed after the store made a traditional Caribbean dish and they used the wrong ingredients and a fucking Jamaican people wanNA. Shit what a Swedish people know about Jamaican food they can put a picture of a Jamaican meal. It's a stupid idea. They shouldn't have done it but twitter went into war. Ikea's version of jerk chicken and rice and peas is just not what it looks like and the Jamaicans went at them really hard. I get it but this is what happens when you try and catch on a culture with no input from that culture whatsoever. How do you think Italians feel what every other fucking TV show has a table full of people eating Spaghetti and meatballs. Nevada's got a shirt and tie in because you got home from work. That doesn't happen Italian household. We don't eat spaghetti and meatballs. That's not a dish that we prepare. Yes we'd Spaghetti. We'd Spaghetti sauce it could be it could be a meat sauce generally it's Monday night spaghetti and it doesn't mean sausage a few different types of meat in that source not just fucking meatballs of course we love meatballs balls and yes we eat meat balls but when a TV mom plops meatball or two on top a big fucking pilot spaghetti that's no more Italian than when I ki- puts down a piece of jerk chicken on a plate so there's a lot of bullshit going on a lot of fakery going on. That's pissing me off the Fed the biggest grease this is Brett cavill sex ex-mayor fiasco that proves once again which I've always told you the New York Times is officially the New York slimes. It's a fucking hack paper. All they we do every day is trying to destroy trump. I've given you information. I've given you examples time and time again but this latest story that's from a book written by two of the paper's reporters was an arts writer and a Wall Street correspondent have having to do with Kavanagh's college years is the last Gasp Hail Mary fucking awful. Oh attempt at trying to smear him and get him off the Supreme Court. But of course it's made everybody from you know Bernie Sanders. Dan Is too fucking Elizabeth Warren Cory Booker Combo Harris screaming impeachment. You know what this must have sounded like when they got this store. Listen Hello Neo Times listen. I got a story about bread. Kavanagh's cock really hold on. I want to hear this. Let me put you on speaker. Go Run ahead sir. I've got I've got a couple of reporters. He at once from the Arts Department and one is the Wall Street cars go right ahead. There was a party once When was this. Sorry sorry why I'm going back thirty thirty five years okay but it's very fresh in my mind yeah go ahead. Continue typing kitchen you well there. It was a party in a guy a guy took bread Kavanagh's Dick and he pushed it into some girl's hand really well that sexual assault. Oh Yeah it's something like that because you can't take a Guy Dick and put it in. Some girls are hand. No you cannot sir. Wow what an explosive allegation now. WHO's the guy gives a guy named Max Max. That's not the point. The point is this happened. I saw it. I'm sure you did. I believe the hundred percent now this woman how does she she feel about this. She don't remember it happening. Okay well. That's not what you get around that we we we can get so. This definitely happened but she just he doesn't remember it happening probably because she was so shocked that another man's. Dick was in her hand. She probably has some sort of Kakheti and when she'll get over it and then we can proceed with this article and really get this motherfucker. Thrown out is that we have the same page. I think you walk now. Who You sir an attorney. I wasn't attorney real real estate marital. No I worked for the Clintons on the whole Whitewater case. I was with bill when he was getting blown by Monica. I see I see so there is no conflict of interest interest not oh no. I heard a story about a party and I don't like women get their Other guys Dick Smashed in the hands granted. We're going to get on this right away. That's what the Fuck in New York Times has become and Bernie Sanders for could pick you fucking idiots wake up. There's nothing there. It's all bullshit and speaking of a man with this. It's a very sad story but it is an exclusive and only I have in this. The love story that was rose McGowan and rain dove is officially over rose gave rain her her walking papers. Yes rain is a she. Stop pretending she's a guy I know. It's confusing a year and a half ago. We've gotTA CATCH UP. She's a she. She just doesn't like everything about her female image. He likes to be gender fluid etcetera etcetera. It's getting boring to talk about but they broke up and rose telling some explosive details about why they broke up. She says she's absolutely certain now that rain rain was the person that sold stories regarding Osceola Gento and little Jimmy Minett story about Ozzy. What's the is a sexual harassment. A little boy the young boy rain swore she had nothing to do with it. She did rose found out for unreal because there is a mutual friend now that they had an have who spill the beans to rose and I'm going to get that name for you later but see rain dove has has blown up rain. Dove is is made a lot of money recently. He's on a commercial for a new lifestyle brand called the Landau. It's a European brand. That basically is telling everybody. WHO's gender fluid. You Are the light. It's not only gender people. That's heavy people's telling everybody who doesn't fit the norms. You Are the light of the world your big you show him how big if you don't feel like a guy you know you feel like whoever you're you're never alone. It's all that Shit. I don't know what the fuck is selling in soft drinks close. Whatever the fuck but it's rain leading this commercial and it's a big deal this is a big company and she got a big big fucking hefty sum to lead commercial and to be the spokesperson for the Landau and that money has made rainfall little independent and rose finally to put the finishing touch on this has said to my friend anything you hear about rain is bullshit her whole back story is a lie and the reason why I am listening to this story and believing rose and getting softer on rose is because I think what Lisa Bloom did with Harvey to try to outwit and Outfox Fox rose by going in and around. I think it's disgusting. It is so fucking scary to think you have a lawyer representing you in your best interest to know that really she's working against you that is fucking petrifying and it sucks all the money out of rose's life rose at one point had about twenty million bucks. That's what she was worth. That's all gone. Her House has gone. She was staying with a friend in London that ended now. She's staying with a friend in Williamsburg Brooklyn. She still fears for her life. Especially since it looks like hobby might might might beat this case so that's why I'm software on Rosana used to be and I never really was a big Fan Fan of rain and obviously he looked to be the person that was getting the details out because who else should know these intimate details with with Rose Osceola and all that shit it was rain the newcomer until into every life a little rain must fall but this motherfucker was a deluge into Rosa's life and now now she's gone in Asia big exclusive. I'm sure you'll sink your teeth into that until all your buddies about the new gender fluid romance that broke up now. God knows who rose allow. Maybe she'll start dating that big chunky girl Lizzie so who the fuck knows. I'm Aj vans that was today's Daily unfiltered podcast kids for what is it the seventeenth to September twenty nine thousand nine hundred Jesus Christ. I'll talk to you tomorrow.

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"This is your drive time. News blast thirty minutes jam packed with news of the day from a perspective of truth. Liberty and justice. This is Monica Parade. I Brad bigly. Today's top story is uniquely tailored to the interests of us and our viewers listeners. I should say we have breaking news. It is the closing of a door. The opening of another door Saturday will be the last Monica Paresh show on. Wsb radio how are you taking it? Basically I better keep my thoughts to myself until after that show. I see yes. We are definitely going to speculate on why the AX fell. But it was. I mean I'M I. I was more shocked that I was on the mainstream media on the radio. Then that I'm being taken off it but time for a while I think so and I really just stopped like pulling my punches. So I'm trying to see. I don't think they posted my last show which I think I remember after I did that show last Saturday I was like. I think I might have gone too far. That's what you said it isn't I said I'm not saying that. They have new ownership and they whatever. I know pretty expensive time slot to just you know a lot of times. They sell that stuff. I don't know what happened how it's going to shake out. I really have hardly had time to kind of process it. Maybe we'll do a little recon and see what we can come up with talk about it next week but we'll be a brand new financial show to go in that spot. I wonder I mean that that would mean that would just be like the simple. It makes sense to like have an expensive commercial product in that everybody loves expandable wells but they just. It makes the radio station a lot more money because the financial show will pay. Radio Station pays me. They didn't pay me a lot but they paid me. They could save that and sell that spot to a financial person who then sells ads on his show for a lot. It's just much more lucrative market on the kind of short term time for him. I really don't know I'm not ready to speculate. I do want to kind of do I know. Just wait because they did the courtesy so WSB was taken over by new owners. And my guy the guy who put me on the guy who coached me taught me everything I know and was always like hey man is low. You can say whatever you think you could say whatever you know just make sure you tell people which one is which. I was always really confident. Always had my back. He's he's retiring so I don't. I don't know what it wasn't surprised that there was going to be a changing of the guard. And maybe a different approach. I really do not know. But they have that gang my producer there and executive producer and program director. Everybody's always been awesome to me. It's been a great experience and they're on the way out my guy said Hey. Do Your last show and you know that you can do what you want with it. You can kind of tell people what's happening and how they can find your and your podcast. I'm excited about that. It's definitely the high road and one of my executive producer. They're offered to collect phone messages to play on this last show so I was going to announce it on the air on. Wsb On Saturday. But instead I'M GONNA announce it now on the podcast and that way I can give you the phone number and if you want to say goodbye say farewell. Say Something Nice about the show that we can kind of use to drive people to continue to listen to us. This is how to do it. Call four zero four eight nine seven seven four eight nine. I'll say it again at the end but it's four four eight nine seven seven four eight nine or you can go to the open mic feature on the WSB radio APP and you can leave a message there and my guy. Shane just collect all that stuff and put it together so we can play some of that on the air on Saturday which I think is nice but if you want to do it you should do it by like say two o'clock eastern Friday. So he has time to pull it all together so I have to say it was. It was really. It was an intense experience that had actually nothing to do with my natural tendencies not performer alike to build. Spreadsheets are really gonNA thrill out of like you sitting in a cubicle and doing math so great way I literally get excited about it like my. Gosh I cried. My you know my. Mtv is right cashflows work. You know so. This is outside break comfort zone. I've really I've made. It's been good but I really the pike is what I love. I can say what I want and you don't have to battle the clock and all that I will miss having live callers. People from all walks of life kind of across generations across races the Atlanta's such a diverse place that I go out on the radio. They call in and your surprised when you hear a sampling of different demographics. That's different from what the talking heads. Tell you. People think and believe it was really a great way to get to kind of breakthrough all the stereotypes that are pushed on us from the media and the politicians and stuff and I will also miss. Getting a paycheck. Wasn't a lot but it. Kinda help subsidize being able to take the time to read a and have my pay for my baby sitters and stuff so we might have to try to replace both of those features in the podcast me we will try to. I will probably have to pay a little more attention to monetize ING. We were going to have to try and make some money I think so I hate to say it but if I WANNA continue to get like the four hour day hall pass of not doing anything else that I'm supposed to be doing getting other people to do it. I think I'm going to have to start paying my own way here but I also am hoping that we can use the extra time it frees up because I really put a lot of time and effort into that show to do. Maybe start doing videos kind of launch. See if we can get back into youtube without getting taken down and maybe do something where we can do live stuff where we can have people call it and where we can actually have interaction like that so we don't lose that that was really. I think the unique feature that I really liked about it. Plus it was a push not pull so like with podcasting people pull you into their world. I'm WSB. They were listening for traffic and stuff. And I would be like. The Corona virus is a live simulation. I don't know of live simulation but it certainly resembles one and that that you know I guess that's the end of that. I'm not surprised somehow so the show is dead but long live the podcast. Yes and thank you. I learned a lot and I enjoy being a part of the thank you for having me be apartment. It was a pleasure. Yes so that was Super Fun. We'll see how the last show turns out. Hopefully people don't do the pop in. That could be a little disruptive for half hour show. It's on from five to five thirty on Saturday and as luck would have it. Our lovely and talented webmaster had just this week put up any emergency email plan on the proper port dot com. No Plan Yeah. I don't know how I don't know I when how long it'll be chillier. Next D platforming Monica but we can get it because like I always as soon as I get a good hairdresser. I'm like okay. What's your actual phone number? Because if you quit I need to be able to find. Don't tell anyone else anyway. So that's what we're doing is if you go to the proper port dot com. There's a big welcome banner and then underneath that is emergency email backup so if you leave your email. We'll try to. I think as a courtesy I mean unless it's a burden but I don't think so just once a week put out a newsletter. A kind of like we're still here. Mailing WITH ALL OUR PODCASTS. In it yes we will not spam your inbox spam. We didn't give it away or anything. Almo- almost feel like if someone gives you their email. They want to be kind of informed shows or whatever especially if we do a propaganda report. Something we don't do every day so oh we had to start doing merch. We have such a great logo. Compliments also the same lovely and talented webmaster. All right CECI. A door closes and another door opens. Antivirus flies right in your face when that door opens. I have to say before we get to corona virus as bad as I felt about getting the news about the Monica fresh. Oh I felt equally excited that today. I became a meam. Congratulations I loved on the caption. It says I believe it says it's a picture of me with the face that really looks like it's saying that that's cute honey. And and what what Alex who created. It says that feeling when some conspiracy virgin stumbled upon a moon landing hoax video on Youtube and unloads on you a veteran Lizard people connoisseur. That's cute honey. So I don't know he might have lost me at Lizard people but I mean I know but it's perfect. I really really love. It made my day. Thank you very much. And it's being it's being loved universally so hey come viral. That would be great community. Spread Nice Nice. Okay go for. It is the new term. It's not new but it's a term. They're making popular now. Saying the first case in the United States that is in no way connected to China has arrived and that's apparently really scary and they're calling it community spread because they just emerged naturally within someone who didn't go on the plane or didn't go to Wuhan so I guess that means we're all in jeopardy as I get a cold. I mean whatever the thing about this anybody sniffles. Anybody coughs everybody's paranoid now. So now you don't WanNa call because you're afraid everybody's GonNa look at you and thank you got the corona virus and you're going to be hauled off to a quarantine center. What's absolutely crazy is that you can go to the doctor with a cold or flu or pneumonia of absolutely unknown origin. And he can say based on checking a few boxes you have the novel coronavirus. I mean that doesn't spread the panic about this. And that's that's what I'm seeing the entire front page of the Wall Street Journal for the second or third day in a row. Almost every single story is about corona virus and it is an yet another sign of the complete Pathak Chrissy that our government does not work for us. The problem with the Corona virus is the panic. So when you say look. The Corona virus caused a massive crash in the stock market. Just take a step back. The Corona virus did not infect the stock market panic infected. The stock market is very old very vulnerable to the corona virus. Yes the Stock Market. Does have pneumonia. We ARE GETTING A lab test. Actually we're going to go into. Clinical trials for the Dow corrode has rain. I'll tell you what's really going to make the corona virus a threat or where it's really going to do the most damage and that is in hospitals and emergency rooms specifically in ICU specifically because pneumonia is contained. Pneumonia spreads in those areas. It contaminates it and people died the pneumonia that you get in the emergency room. He has often worse than regular Monja. Cada hospital originator. Think of that like I don't want to go to the hospital because you can get so sick and this is where everybody is going. My mother ninety one. She was so sick recently. She was so sick and other people who are trying to get to the hospital. I said absolutely not. She doesn't want to go. She's right she will never come back. Seat did it. And because people are GONNA BE DR- driven to madness. A sniffle is the corona virus. People are going to be going to the hospital in droves which is going to make it more likely that more people get pneumonia because of the and for a virus for colder flu. You can't really do anything for you so unless you actually need. Clinical intervention like IV antibiotics. But it's not a bacterial thing if you need. Iv Fluids then yes then you then then you need to go to the hospital but if you aren't hydrated if you don't have that fever now all the things that make you go to the hospital for the clinical intervention. Yes do that. But if you're just fighting a virus straight up just like you normally would it is. I bet that you are at a higher escalating. Do Your Own Research. But that you that they that they cannot help you because they can't help a virus but there is risk in being around all the sick people and if it is more transmissible like they say it is or they're they're advocating they're gonna say it's more transmissible whether it actually is not say it's more transmissible because otherwise it wouldn't be it couldn't rise to this level of Pat. It's the same transmissibility in the same fatality rate. Than why are we even talking about it right right so they have to be saying that but also takes away all the resources from every other kind of illness yes and it makes healthcare workers that puts them in jeopardy and they become carriers of it from one patient to another over happened in China overworked? Yeah the healthcare ruin your right so it could very well turn into something worse by the way it's being handled in the panic. Which was the point of event to a one? That was the point. That was the point. They said people will overreact and not be able to handle it by being bad actors or good actors or whatever and what we need is a big plan. Can I read you a paragraph off of the front page of The Wall Street Journal? Today that absolutely echoes. Exactly what event to a one was saying in that regard? Let's all right. It says Beijing pressed on virus controls Beijing deepening damage from China's corona virus epidemic is forcing its leadership to confront an agonizing decision. I mean that was straight out of events who won straight okay when to ease quarantine restrictions that are strangling growth. Even as they help contain the viruses spread event to a one was all about making sure. Economic growth was not slowed down or unnecessarily stilted stunted from from the decisions that were being made. I mean this is this is I can't at this. Looks just like the life simulation it goes on to say business executives and some local leaders are becoming more vocal about the need to streamline rules to reopen factories and get workers and supplies moving again in many parts of the country where activity remains at a standstill straight out of event to a one getting business leaders to urge the government to streamline rules. I mean that is if you guys haven't heard it yet we did. I think it's most people have heard this book. We did a couple of days ago. A report on the corona virus event to a one. If you go back and listen to that now it was just I think from two days ago on the proper for dot com or the propaganda report feed on your podcast platforms. Then you'll hear all of this stuff. I time stamped it beverage. Twenty four th so you could see it was unrolling after and I mean. I'm sure that was just the first article I read. This is looking more and more like an exercise by the day that exercise. Yeah contact tracing if you heard this other new term the crowd I was reading about this and I was like this. Seems exactly like a trial where they're testing people and training people in live action? This is California officials are tracing the person who is the first person that got sick that isn't connected to the community spreads naked in San Francisco. That's just that word is suggestive and they're tracing everybody he interacted with so that's called contact. Tracing so they they have officials go around and they go through all his his interactions. They look whatever data they have about him. What this is. Look think about all the data. They're collecting about this guy and his patterns of behavior and they're six degrees of separation almost tracking him to this person to that person to this person to that person to this person just to see this virus might have traveled at a certain period of time. I mean to me. This is a a mass surveillance. Live action test. Everybody is getting an F. B. I. Background CHECK YEAH. And how how are they doing it as a digital does it say? I think it's both I think it's online and offline they're merging smart world with And I feel like they are going to have to say look. We can't we can't do this backwards right. We can't do this backwards. You have to just getting our fit. Or whatever like you have to be traceable all the time yes talked about. The care was about information. They talked about smart cities being the savior from Corona Virus. Because of all the data. Because you can see cameras everywhere. And because everybody's afraid people will give up their rights and liberties when they fear a deadly pandemic is coming. They just went. Okay whatever you need to do to save us. Here's all the information. Here's where I've been. Here's all the people I've been in contact with. People will out their family members. Because they're afraid of something in circumstances like this and I mean this just think about all the data. They're collecting willingly right now from anyone who even has a cough. Yeah Oh yeah willingly for sure and then when people don't do it willingly they're demonized and then they're ruining it for everyone libertarians. There's I have to say the Ebola thing featured self-proclaimed libertarians being complete a holes. Because not not everybody will cooperate. I think it's the opposite. Libertarians are the ones who want to do the right thing. Recalled Violence Harris. You know like we want to do the right thing. Because it's in our interest because we're rational. Yeah we're not arbitrarily like you can't. I don't know maybe so while it does seem more like a flu like thing to me as well and that's what the doctor. I spoke with yesterday as what he believes. I'm starting to kind. There is a little bit of creeping concern in my mind because of this dialectic this playing out which is a bit odd I the dialectic were trump is very much like it's just like the flu. It's nothing it's fine yet the. Cdc is like it's definitely inevitable and it's going to spread around the country trump's it's not inevitable the CDC's raw and Pelosi in Schumer going. He only gave four hundred million or whatever he needs to give more. He's an eight million eight billion billion with the possibility of going up like twenty percent or twenty five percent increase so trump's blaming the media and the left for the outrage. Not There shouldn't be any outrage. Raw going to be fine in the left is blaming trump for the corona virus actually called it the trump virus in the New York Times which is really pretty absurd. The trump virus but the concern to me. Is this constant downplaying of it. We pointed out downplaying of it from day. One how even though there was outrage there was also people. Saying there's a really small chance you're GONNA get it trump's gone epstein. You're probably not going by that. Was that's part of the thing is that we didn't take it seriously enough. And that's why it surges. There's also been confused now in my mind whereas if it was really was really something that was bad. Yeah and they don't want people to panic then you're going to downplay it. It talked about this in the propaganda literature. When you don't what the public to focus on something when you don't want it to get concerned up in a whirlwind then you say no no no no. It's just fine. You've only been shot a few times. But everybody's I think everybody's on this page. I don't think anybody isn't. I will say I wouldn't worry about it at all. Like nothing could convince me that it could really get that crazy because we're just good at fighting viruses those pandemics in the past where function of other factors who were function of nutrition and sanitation and Yatra genyk disease like where the treatment made it worse stuff like that. Yeah and then of course. There's always the bacterial infections. Which are the things that really kill people but we have antibiotics? Which is great except war. What you said about the gain of function stuff if they are actually trying to make super viruses in a lab. That's the concern that I know. They play off that they demonized conspiracy theories even when they're true right so I can't really say that. Make Bio that's not GonNa do it. Yeah they do in lyme disease supposedly and this is something weird so lime disease supposedly escaped from a bio weapons lab in Connecticut. No somebody called into my show was freaking out about it and I was like. I don't even know what you're talking about last year. The Congress started an inquiry into that question. It was so strange to me but I wonder if it was foreshadowing to get out into the world yes bioweapons do escape and so they take a conspiracy theory that is probably true and they exploit it so it doesn't even matter to them if the conspiracy theory is true or false. They're like they could actually give it gain of function released into the world and then tell people about it and punish people for believing it. Yeah and I think that anything. That is a real major catastrophe like this. If this were to be something that was bad. I don't think we're going to find out about it until it's already like really bad. I think that they would wait to try. And Quell public panic. I'm not saying that that that is going on right now. I'm saying that that has creeped into my mind. Because of the way trump is downplaying it and others downplayed it and also because of genetic engineering and technological capabilities that we've developed especially in China does have any regulations on genetic engineering. We already know that. A genetically engineered super mosquito has been created by the Gates Foundation and released out into Africa and an attempt to eradicate the mosquito species. That had malaria. They created a super mosquito so it seemed put it possible to create a super genetically engineered virus. That's what it is. I'm saying that into my mind. I'm reading this really fascinating book called inventing the AIDS virus by Peter Duisburg at was introduced by Nobel laureate like this guy's legit. He's been demonized. I looked into his bio and it starts out with like well he lived in Germany during the Nazi years. So you know. Draw your own conclusion on whether or not he's a Nazi parade. Yes something ridiculous. And he's not he's a Berkeley professor. So but I'm reading it. And he goes into this thing. A retrovirus. Very rare. To have a retrovirus and what it means is the virus gets it normally virus gets into your cell and kills it this gets into your cell and deposits a little piece of of its RNA. Into your Deanna and screws up how you are sell works so if you ever heard of virus causes cancer if anyone ever did and he saying basically they don't it might be very rare case where AH vulnerable. Host can be vulnerable to this like weird genetic change so if I wouldn't put it past them to be able to invent something like that but whether it's big or not whatever the truth is I think it's whatever the truth is is totally disconnected from what they're putting in the newspaper like totally disconnected. There's no reason to think we know the answers here. Right and trump did not rule out locking down cities during the press conference. He didn't say he would but he said all options are on the table and if there is if there is panic and Mike Pence is leading the way as the perfect not. He's not the SAR but are playing that role and as soon to be crowned Coronas are via and that was a controversy. How dare you put Mike? Pence is not a scientist. He's anti science and charged with Corona virus. How dare you? He's a Christian. Oh my Gosh Yeah. I know literally the argument about this put a Christian person who hates I if you want us all die. We'll warren called her pregnancy baby. They're all going up site. I know there. What is what I don't know so we have another interesting story unless you have more on the current events we. I think we can go a little longer. Today it's totally fine. I don't have anything on. I mean whatever. The Kuroda virus thing I think this year we've got a year to cover that. Maybe the krona virus story was going to die down. There's been community spread on the story and it is gonNA come back for more. Apparently but Lori Laughlin was in the news yesterday. Lock Land. You're right sorry. Drives me. Crazy was in the news everything I learned on how to read kid and I see her spelling. And it's wrong. I've been betrayed by. This is one of the many many things I learned in radio. You'RE GONNA say somebody's name you'd better hear them say it before gory. Lachlan was in the news yesterday because her lawyers are now claiming that the prosecution was withholding evidence that exonerates her evidence which is letters written by singer who is at the center of the Controversy Singer. Guy. Yeah he's the CON man. Who helped everybody? Who allegedly helped. Everybody bribed their kids way into the school and we read the transcripts months almost a year ago at this point on one of our shows I believe. Wsb Show and it seemed pretty obvious to both of us. That on the phone calls that he was he had been set up. He was setting them up to try and Bait Lachlan and others and to saying something that made it made them seem guilty and it seemed very much like they thought they were doing something in earnest. They thought they were paying a donation. There was legitimate to the school and now fast forward almost a year. They're withholding letters written by singer where he claims that he was forced by the FBI to say that he told them that they were involved in bribing did they. Were okay with it when in reality he told them that the money was going to the university and they they thought it was going to the university. They did not think it was going to. The coach of the rowing team and that the donation was legitimate and he allegedly these letters documents. All these instances of the FBI threatening and bullying him and yelling at him and forcing him to basically try and set Lori. Lock on and others up and I think one of the things that said in there was that they were telling him what to say on the phone calls. You say that yeah okay because when we were reading the FBI. Put out an affidavit. Two hundred something pages and Bingley. You sets me when this thing was coming down that day you said Oh Lori Lachlan. She's like Christian conservative. And I said Oh maybe they're targeting her because of that so I looked at her case. Specifically there's maybe one hundred people in their fifty people or whatever and I looked at her case specifically so we really scrutinize it. We read the F. B. I. Affidavit and it was from the F. B. I. Affidavit itself the document that was used to charge her. It seemed clear to me that singer and those guys were afraid that that Lori and her husband were going to find out about their scam. It looked to me like what Rick Singer that clearly. The phone calls that were being described. Were phone calls. That were set up. After Rick Singer started cooperating that were designed to say certain things and entrap people and my conclusion was based purely on the F. B. I. Affidavit that Lori Lachlan and her husband who were tight with the athletic director of USC and we're willing to give a million dollars directly to USC. If I'm not mistaken they gave instead five hundred thousand dollars to Rick Singers Foundation and and it was cleared me. They believed that it was a charitable contribution. And the thing that doesn't count the fake apple hit the picture. So they're saying oh she's supposed to be on the rowing team. She's one hundred pounds that kid. I was on the rowing team. I'm not everybody misrepresented the rowing thing as though it's crazy for someone who's never done rowing on a rowing team. How many of you right did Rowing High School? How many are you aware of a rowing program that was in highschool? There's like none of them has hardly any of them in the country so they need recruits and they go and actively seek people to fill these roles. You did it. You told us that you're right. I I dropped out of high. School went to community college transfer to Harvard as a junior and because too stupid to realize how hard everything was there. I did stop. I started taking Japanese. I was like and I walked onto the rowing team and the coach was Roy was was coaching the Seoul Olympics at the time so I had the assistant coach and she was just like sure whatever. Come on even though I was terrible. When the real coach came back she was like okay. You're definitely in the sea boat. Whatever but I like A. I'm above average in height and build and I was by far the smallest person and the only people who are teeny tiny like that chick are Cox ines who call the shots on the boat and those people are absolutely recruited because of their size does what she was. You just teach them how to yell stroke stroke. You have to have a beep but it's not a rigorous thing like that so I figured it was totally fine if they told to Cox and she could have been and it wouldn't have mattered but then it came out that that there was a fraudulent application like that but they told lock or this was a claim. I'm not sure it's documented. But they told Lachlan to send action shot of the girl on an Erg so they can see that she's active and then they filled out the fraudulent application. Lachlan's didn't even know there was a fraudulent application out there. She was doing what she thought was a legitimate process to getting. They were worried she was going to figure it out that was clear from the FBI transcripts. It was really crazy. Yeah we worry the parents would find out and start making noise. That's what it says right. And this is this shows what they're willing to do if this turns out to be true and for the lawyers to make the claims that they're making. I don't see how it can't be true because they give specific quotes. That singer says in his notes that one of them. Actually one of the singer's own notes talks about how the government's desire to nail one of the defendants at all cost and he also talks about how they they continue to ask me to fib and to not restate what I really told my clients as to where their money was going. I mean it's damning evidence and the lawyer Lori Lockett's lawyer. This was the only hope I had for her. He was Enron prosecutor so he really knew and he took her case. First of all to me. There's no way he was taking her case. If it wasn't rock-solid full stop but I thought how did they I mean how is it even possible that they're that they're gonNa let this happen and they did try to stop her from using that lawyer at least separate her or so? They couldn't both use that lawyer yet. I was worried about that. And then if they can separate them out one of them's GONNA lose the get the other one to plea like Tommy chanted wasn't even accused of the crime but he made a plea because he wants to keep his wife and his son out of jail so. I thought they were trying to do that and I still think they were trying to do that. But this guy so if you think people really it's so crazy this is the show did was march twenty first twenty nineteen so is about a year ago. Its episode one thirty six. You can find it a propaganda report at Lipson or propagated report. Is it forward slash LIPS PROPAGANDA REPORT? Dot LIPSON DOT COM. Sorry what the URL. So anyway you can go get that there. And the reason that's interesting to listen to is it was all there. We laid it out. We saw right through it day. One anybody's media and read those documents. But they didn't. They dammed her without knowing anything about it. They dammed everybody involved and it. It really does show that they will target people who do not fall in line at all costs and they will attempt to demonize them and then once they've demonized them they will attempt to make an example out of them because they know that the public has no sympathy for someone once they've been demonized and the public will accept cruel and unusual punishment happening to them. They'll even begged for cruel and unusual punishment to happen so hopefully in this case she will prevail although even if she does prevail the reason that she prevails in the media it will be spun. And they will say. She only prevailed because she's a privileged white female. Who has money and while? That did help her yes. It doesn't change the fact that she was wrongly corner. What hurt her too because she didn't do anything wrong. And she was targeted because she was an influence. Sir Who came from a perspective that does not support the preferred narrative. Exactly they would welcome Felicity Huffman back. They will not welcome back and I got twitter abuse for defending Laurie Lachlan. And this is what people said and four. Shame people said she should. I said they're they're giving her. They threw threw the book at her because she dared to defend her rights at first she was threatened with eighteen months and as soon as she pled not guilty. They up to two forty years. Tried to Scott's outrageous and I got tweeted and this isn't the first time I've gotten tweeted like this. It said she should be punished for wasting taxpayers money on a trial. She should be punished for that yet like she should get a worse penalty for not just taking her lumps. I mean the idea that the government going after you is something that defending yourself against it at her own expense. Defending herself against that is something that she should pay. Double Forbade Double for pay twenty times for four. Is I mean that? That's the problem with this country. Good for her. I hope she prevails. If she doesn't prevail she couldn't unless somehow this evidence turned out lie or inadmissible. Dave figure something out to get her to plea bargain. Yeah that's what I hope. She does not do that I hope she continues to fight it and I hope she prevails good for her. I would love to interview her one day. She prevails from that smeared and I hope that she walks away from this and goes back lifetime movies or whatever she wants. I that would be great. Should I recap how people can contribute to our last Monica parish? Oh yes we ready for that okay. So my last show on. Wsb IS GOING TO BE SATURDAY. And we're going to put together a little little montage from listeners. So if you want to be a part of that I would love it. I really think it would be a good show to send. Wsb A lot of good feelings. 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Hour 1: Billy's Bachelor Party

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

34:58 min | 1 year ago

Hour 1: Billy's Bachelor Party

"This is the Dan Le Batard show with Stugatz. PODCASTS is taking a day off from radio. He'll be on T._v.. Today these aren't h I was actually in hoping that he would do radio and not do T._v.. And I would be slotted into age when I get paid for that appearance but that is not the case. I am very upset about how these today worked out to be honest with. You has nothing to do with having to do more work Craig. No has everything to do getting paid. It's all about I get paid per appearance. I was hoping hey come through the radio show and then maybe take H.. Q. Offense Lot me busy that yeah now you're not getting paid extra and have to work more. You're hustling and reverse uh-huh pay for today. Though how does that work. I do think when he takes off because Dan makes more money than I did and so I think when I listen I'm just putting it out there when he takes off. I feel like I should assume whatever his daily salary is to do this show about that. Should we all split that no no because I feel you'd be leaning on US pretty heavily. I am but I get all the money right. I think your workload is actually going to remain the same. I'm not GonNa do anything today teddy me. He's GONNA outsource entire show. We'll just talk I. I'm not doing read so who's doing sports centers to that. No Way can take my guess is GonNa come up with a little original segment that we like to call call might take some calls. That's actually a good idea. I don't know if I'll take them or not but I'll just have them off to the side in case we hit a low we can't do the cause on calls locals locals not there's nothing nothing worse than a low. You're right put it on the poll. Is there anything worse than a low. Welcome to the sporting month of July. Free Agency carried us for the first half now all we got his team's reporting to camp. They should call it. Joe Ally <music> decent combined Lalai all right so I'm GonNa have long calls just in case in the event that we hit a low seven eight six four five six four three seven. Why are you saying we can't take calls during the national show is that what do you mean by that? I would just say that. Nationally calls aren't as good. It's we found a nice little bizarre niche with the local hour the callers on the local hour a really good but it doesn't really translate to the national show. I don't know why that is because we got plenty of callers into the local local our that our firm Indiana Oregon. They're actually not the majority of the calls that we take off from places outside of South Florida which is weird because it's a Miami only hour right but for whatever reason it hasn't really translated to the national show and these these calls that we take scots. They're so great they actually generate content. They're asking US questions and it's not like how do you like the bengals chances this year I would say that we haven't given the national callers enough opportunities about that. I would say that's what you're setting up right. Now and Dan like applies allies all this pressure. I really like a Lazy River. Phone calls everyone. Yes just let the calls take you where they take you. I mean that's it you jumping a lazy river the river just take you where it takes you and same thing with sports radio and the same thing with phone calls. You don't argue against the phone call. You don't argue another caller that he's bad you know. Tell the Razi Lazy River that it's too lazy you just let the river take you where it takes you and the same with you. Just let the callers take you where they take you there. I feel like this river is especially lazy. The laziest is the laziest river but that on the poll. I think you're excited. Training camp is opening up today not where I wanted to start not where I thought we're gonNA start but again. Dan is off today off radio but he will be on television. He'll be on highly questionable this afternoon. Along with Israel Gutierrez is GonNa join us in studio in the noon hour. You're excited for training game because they do want to talk about pace of playing playing golf. I wanted to talk about Brooke Capita. I WanNa talk about Jim Harbaugh at some of the stuff that happened with him over the weekend and I WANNA get to people who are criticizing chief fans for being happy that tyreek Hill is not going to miss a second of play time but training camps like train it gave up its training camp and it is Joe Law Lie yes so now I'm I'm reading what Brett Farve is saying about the quarterback so remind him of himself very flattering very flattering comparisons for breakfast that he gave himself Patrick mahomes homes and Baker Mayfield but whatever I'm cool. Do we have the generations new manning versus Brady who knows I. This is a wonderful offseason for the Cleveland. Browns obviously got arguably the best wide receiver in the League. They have an energetic young on quarterback. They finally nailed the position the favored to win their division for the first time since returning to the N._F._l.. I'm absolutely excited because import because I've never been excited before I had a ten and sixties and that didn't result in a playoff berth and I thought I might've had a quarterback Derek Anderson because he was coming off a pro bowl year but this is different. This is your Neil the number one draft pick for the first time ever at that position. I got a renewed sense of vigor around this franchise. I think we might have turned the corner. Dolphins Have Ryan Fitzpatrick Yep. It's magic you wanna a quarterback who has thrown a career three hundred and thirty six interceptions saying that Hey your quarterback reminds me of May today's N._F._l.. You like is that a compliment Brett farve when he says hey that guy reminds me of me in today's N._F._l.. From Guy Again first career three hundred thirty six interceptions. I don't know if I want to hear from that guy but he was one of the best quarterbacks of his era yet you would. Take the interceptions but let's not forget you still amazing. If the Cleveland browns drafted Brett Farve you have a hall of fame quarterback right. I'm happy with the comparisons I'll absolutely take Brett farve. You'll take the the one super bowl the three hundred and thirty six interceptions but at least you get the Super Bowl and your relevant Andrew Hawkins on Tomahawk podcast says Baker Mayfield throws a healthy amount of interceptions tyrod Taylor was risk averse were Baker Mayfield yet he'll throw interceptions but the that's because he's taking chances and a lot of times those chances his will result and maybe a touchdown or to what podcast was this Tomahawk podcast. How do you have so much time to listen to all these podcasts? I mean I listen to true crime. PODCASTS and podcasts are a really great way to follow your own team. Listen to Chelsea podcasts. Listen all Miami Hurricanes podcast. I listen to the Tomahawk podcast from my Brown's News. There's actually a couple of good friends podcast but but this is how you get your team news now on demand one and a half time speed maybe two times speed if you depending on how to read born wait who time speed Roy. Do you listen to podcasts besides hours of course besides stupidity yeah. I listened to a couple of PODCASTS. Yes you do because my wife's been asking me because she's bored because the kids are a cab and you know they're out of the house and she's looking for things to do besides going shopping and spending in my money and so she asked me for suggestions on podcasts that I told to go as the Joe Rogan and she listen to Joe Rogan and she loved the Joe Rogan experience loved it. He was doing some Riffa marijuana and she absolutely loved. Do you say that how it's like a different episode. It's every Joe Rogan experience marijuana listen. I listen to something I've never listened to my life. I just figured it was rating well and that would be an interesting podcast for my wife but I find these. There's so many out I don't know what to listen to Joe. Rogan listen to myself. Joe Rogan has really connected body has really connected to a specific type of dude we we've called them. Oprah the male Oprah before he is absolutely just keeps sending in his career not just the Bona Fides of being the play by play <hes> the color analyst for the U._F._c. but his podcast is one of the more interesting ones and he's all into like these crazy out there things he's notions that you haven't really considered right and makes me want to do like a sensory deprivation ovation tank just because he says how amazing it is. I'm not gonNA try some of the other stuff. He tells me to try because I can't right but here's the thing with the podcast game as as you know I have the biggest podcast in the world. I mean that's that's not accurate. It's not accurate but for the sake of this discussion I do <hes> biggest pockets. What I've noticed about the podcast game is I want Rogan to come on my podcast and Rogin who's been on this show? Several Times will not come on my podcast because why would become my podcast and promotes potty when he has his own podcast that is ranking right now higher than I am even though for a brief period of time. I'm talking about four days. I was higher than he was. You were higher than Joe Rogan I I was I was number one UH. I doubt that let me rephrase that no you're right. Can anyone ever be higher. The Joe Rogan put that on the poll I was just in terms of rankings. I was hired the Joe but he won't come on and if he did come on my guess is he would not reach we'd or promote said podcasts. That's because he doesn't want to he doesn't want attention on my podcast. He wants attention and his own podcast so I offered them a home at home. I figured he needs some help to God's ear as most of us have found out the hard way. Getting Cadet is easy. 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That's upstart dot com slash Dan Donlevatar thank you. That's zyppah stuff. Tom Brady Eighty went down with an Achilles. The only time he got hurt his entire career and I was fist pump it in my living room at home because the jet finally had a chance to win the division. I mean I'm sorry I'm not gonNA apologize for that. I'm sorry I'm not going to apologize for that is one of the most amazing sentences you've ever uttered Stugatz from the maker of trust me. Don't trust me comes. I'm sorry but I'm not going to apologize. You are amazing. You are a flabbergasted orgasmic delight. You happen upon Jesus comedy by accident. That's my gift. These live at our show with this two guys on E._S._p._N.. Radio these headsets are so low. Mike like I'm sitting at Dan spot. You guys know my headsets are usually cranked up. I need to hear myself speaking. It's a weird thing I just. I've been doing it for so long. It's probably unhealthy probably GONNA lose. I already am losing my sense of hearing I just at but I have them cranked up high because I need them a certain way in order to do this job to do the job at all and I can't hear myself at the headsets right now. It's very disturbing. You don't know how to turn up the volume. You know I've turned up the volume as highs I could turn it and it's still very very low not comfortable. That's weird so you're saying that your specific corner can go even higher than the Max boy. I'd shut it one our engineer yes to give me Max volume. Whenever Ever Max volume is I said listen whenever these two because there's you know in our studio there are three places for a host to sit so we all have kind of controls where we could control the volume of our headsets and I think Dan has his set at a way where it can't be that hi and mine is setting away where it can go high enough but I could just keep turning it? I could keep turning. Keep turning keep. I just keep turning into the right at it never stops. Dan Stops. It's weird. I like this. Ah I don't want it to stop. There are low calls by the way tons of them. I will get to perhaps we'll see seven eight six four five six four eight three seven celebrating the month of Joe Lie. Yes fact Chris. What did you make the here's what I love about golf? I'm GONNA get Christmas thoughts here in the Open Championship. Is You have a Guy Shane lowry who I think if you watch golf on a weekly basis you know he's good enough to win a major so it was not a surprise to people who watch a lot of golf who could sue them a lot of Ralph but what I love about golf is this is a guy who did it in his hometown was celebrated was a lot of fun to watch was very emotional. I watched the entire thing. Even though I prefer the final round of the majors to be close with you know a smattering of guys all having a chance to win some young some all Shane Larry a guy who has missed the cut four times the last four times he's played the open missed. The cut had a four-stroke lead at oakmont in the U._S.. Open Ed choke that away big diktat but yesterday and the entire weekend the third round he played the sixty three shot as good around as I've ever seen <hes> but I love the fact that the Best Golfer in the world right now the champion Golfer is is a guy that looks like fat Chris that made me really excited. It makes me feel like I could still get out there and maybe do something with the right coaching. Honestly that was a really cool story and he dominated that Saturday like you said like you won't see a better at that. Of course you won't see a better around the navarine. He put the tournament away on Saturday he really did. I feel like the news of the weekend. I was just angry at Brooks Kepco. How did you feel about this? Why were you angry at Camp? Guy Loved Kepco more today than I've ever loved Brooke scepter first off. He made a really ugly shirt. Look really really really good. No one fills out a shirt like Brooks Kapka. Nobody nobody he about talking about golf. It's sports he does that's his thing. Actually he did it with the hats at the masters he does this thing hooker style. He's taking things that people wouldn't unaware and he's he's basically saying I'm so good looking. I'll make anything look cool right. But why are you mad at a because. He played his phone around with J B Holmes. Yes J B Holmes played. He shot an eighty seven. I believe which is like something something I would shoot at a normal course. Yes J be home by the way started the day at ten under finish the day at six over J B Holmes cost himself seven hundred thousand dollars at its curse pointed out he shot at eighty seven. If I shot at eighty seven on that course in those conditions it would be the round of my my life of course for us to be amazing for him. It was terrible and so- Brooks Kepco this guy who's on his high horse now because grant. He's been dominating. He's the best player in the world the last couple of years yes but he's on this high horse now. This guy as you said J B Holmes lost almost a million dollars dollars yesterday because he's having a terrible day at work yes he just didn't show up. He played terrible and Brooks Kepco this guy he starts judging him because as obviously when you shoot at eighty seven you're gonNA take a lot longer to play than if you shot a sixty three so he took a lot more shots so they're group will slow the guys having a bad day as it is so brisk has to make news after the game saying oh I mean he didn't even have to say anything if they were showing him like he's sitting there the guys hacking away shooting as seven and you see kept over there. He's literally looking at his watch him like he was looking at Washington. He wasn't wearing as we get it. We get your Brooks kept up your amazing golf. You look the way you do this guy's having a terrible day and you can't just eat it all. I'm sorry you're around. A golf went from four hours and ten minutes to four hours and thirty minutes. Oh Sorry Brooks Kapka. I mean it's just like I get it that he's frustrated with the pace of play but just have a little decency for guy having a rough day now listen. He's been consistent about pace of play he really has he's been consistent. Ah is a cold day out there. Cupcake nosy has no shot of winning. He wants to get in and out three hours getting the private jet and get the hell out of there Chris I get it. I J B Holmes. You have no chance of winning either. Let's go when I get. I get the point of once he's already ten over for the round at at this point. Just let's go right but it's just I just feel like kept could just now. He's feeling himself here. Here's here's what kept goes essentially saying I hit a ball and then I I don't. I don't admire my shots. I don't you know my mind doesn't start or to wander. I am focused on the course so as I'm walking to my second shot I thinking about I know how far I am up thinking about what club I'm gonNA use the how I'm GonNa shape the shot the angle I know the course while enough that I should know all these things before we start toward me black and what are you saying. Hey J B Holmes. You don't start thinking about that stuff until you actually get to your ball. Start thinking about it. As you walk to your next shot and here's the analogy I would use that I think we can all relate to it's very annoying like you've been a long line at starbucks right really long line and then the person in front of you finally gets up to the you've had all day to think about what your orders get obeyed okay and then you get to the cashier. Here and that's when you just start thinking about what your orders going to be. No what I'm saying is when you're in line you know you get ten minutes. Think about what you're gonNA order and get to the cashier and order what it is you want fig about it. While you're online they'll be on the phone. Don't check social media fig about it while you're alive. Get to the cashier or your coffee. You're done keep it move. It and that's always telling J B Holmes to do think about your next shot as you're walking up to your next shot not when you get to your next shop and it's fair I can ruin there. I can relate to being a foursome and the the worst Golfer in the group is the Slowest Greg Cody my dad. He is famous for standing over a PUTT for a ten on a par five and he stands over that Putt for a full minute reading it. It's like you're. You're putting for. Pretend okay yeah. You don't need to read this Putt. Hack it right but I just I just that's what I mean like. I can relate to that frustration but this kept guy he just he's feeling himself a little too much and I just feel like he's being mean to J B Holmes. I like this sued. It's not just how he looks. It's his attitude the fact that he thinks his sport is boring and it doesn't really want practice. He's pretending he's wearing a watch for guys that are struggling that aren't as good as he is as this guy's Goldman. I think I found a guy I wanted it to be fowler but Fowler doesn't show up at all for these these majors. I like this Tommy fleetwood guy so yeah straggly hair. I'm feeling a little bit Mickelson's fast. Go now to cut cut cut what's going on. It's RAF year for lefty. I go crazy man after he beat tiger in the biggest match ever right million dollar match yes. It hasn't been the same for lefty you're right. It hasn't been the same for Tiger and tiger you too. We'll get to that later because I don't know if I like this new tiger in fact I'll tell you straight up. I don't like the new tug you've had the controversial take where you just want his life in chaos so he can be better golfer yeah I just I want US focus to be golf. Not You know so not as kids. Get back to Gulf listen. I'm glad he has found perspective with age but I like the tiger who was who was in contention every single major not after after Friday not making the cut saying I just WANNA go hello. Who is this guy? Your home is important. That's why go helps make it easy to save on Condo insurance because home is more than just a place home is where you took minimalism too far because there's only one chair in your entire Condo in your only entertainment payment is one card not even a deck of cards but a single card and all your guests have to share one plate in one fork but you're convinced that less stuff means more freedom. The GEICO Insurance Agency could help protect the overly minimalist broom closet you call home call Geico and see how easy it his to switch and save on Condo Insurance Donlevatar Sassy Stugatz sexy when you're seeing these live at our show with these two guys on E._S._p._N.. Radio Jio DAD is off today. He's off radio today. He'll be on it'll be on H._Q.. With poppy and Israel Gutierez this afternoon <hes> billy. How much can I share about what's happening to you this? It's a big week for the show for Guillermo. Oh getting married this week yeah yeah. You seem excited yeah. It's it's been a fun week. Normally people take the week headed into their wedding off because there are massive the preparations their family. That's normal you sell it was if the field yates only took three weeks off headed into his <hes> headed into his wedding. It's feel the that's that's a good point so bill. You had your Bachelor Party over the weekend that we weren't invited to first first of all you're invited to my wedding and you're not going to it's but at least I told you early and it's like the night before did tell you early I did. I did give you props for that in the local hour because I feel like you whether or not you intend to you did me a solid by letting me know early to fuel gates really take three three weeks off before his wedding. Maybe it was too probably misrepresenting field but that's what I do today. I mean I don't WanNa be presumptuous here but I feel like I've done more for my wedding than field yates did for his like. I don't have a wedding planner. There's no question you have done more your mind fields and do anything for his wedding. I feel it field wasn't exactly like picking out flower colors and stuff stuff like that know again. Field did not do a single thing for his wedding. They hired someone to do everything for the wedding field was just you know hanging hanging with family playing golf doing the things that that feel does you know went on a yacht. All I gotta what so what was the Bachelor Party light because I'm a little concern Mike. Were you invited to the Bachelor Party. Did you know billy was having a Bachelor Board. I just found out about it. What details can you provide us on the batch report ages had friends of mine from around the country fly in and we rented a house and we got a thousand very calm parties in general are sort of becoming passe yeah really why is that they used to be such a big deal? Yeah The Times have changed like the Vegas. That's not happening anymore. It's it's not billy thing. This is take more and more common where the Bachelor Party is just sort of muted. It's not as big a thing anymore. You're right. <hes> fat Chris you were you invited to this to this house this mystery house now now but from what it sounds it doesn't sound like we miss too much but he had friends flying in from all over the you know the world and they stayed in a house together. I'm certain they wreck that house us. <hes> and I'm just wondering why none of us knew about it. I mean listen. It's fair not to invite me bill because there's no way I was going so but I'm just one. Are you embarrassed of us like are you. Are you ashamed of of all the people on the show and ashamed of the people on the show yes. US feel like yes is just the easier so yeah. Who are you? Most ashamed of me not really because I feel like with you. There's not really expectations so it's not like we were coming in like Oh my God I'm going to answer. This is like what he is gone down at terrible Kathy. It's almost for locals because billy doesn't he's not engaged on this particular topic making him feel bad. This is bad now. I just I got sick and I it's just very low energy. I have a lot of energy today and didn't even get sick doing anything fun. I got sick eating chicken. That was too spicy last segment. I don't know it's bachelor party was crazy. Not Spicy Wings Spicy Chicken Yeah. I don't know if you notice I was out last segment I was. I was out C._B._S.. Getting Modem. That's that's not a daily occurrence. You would think that I'd had over my desk. You would think that yes okay well. Thanks for inviting us in spicy chicken was the that was the high we appreciate medium. I mean last Bachelor Party I went to I ended up being hospitalized for three days after a trip to Vegas but billy went to C._V._S. promoting wing. It's just that's very on brand for both of us. Why were you hospitalized three days so I had some bad food but I'm sure all the Bourbon didn't help but yeah I got food poisoning at the Aria? Everyone got sick and needy. I shouldn't have said the place look. Look what happens. When you put me on the spot I got food poisoning and everybody went to the bathroom immediately and I didn't feel right so I kept it in my system and that was like the worst thing that could have happened and then about midway through the Patriots Broncos A._F._C. Championship game? I had like one of those like you know the feeling that I know the feeling well it was like Oh oh and this was the <hes> the Richard Sherman <hes> the Richard Sherman Post Game Interview Erin Andrews Game. I don't know if you're familiar with that season football but it was all culminating with Niner seahawks which was the best rivalry in the N._F._l.. At the time I was so the San Francisco Forty niners team and that rivalry and I totally missed the game and I it was coming out both ends folks. It was bad I almost I almost died but I didn't want to go to the hospital because I knew that would meant I would say in the hospital for several days as Las Vegas. I was like I gotta get back. If I'm going to stay in the hospital I wanted to be in Miami. I don't know if you're familiar with that fight from Las Vegas Miami but it's certainly not a flight that you want to go to an airplane but who wants to go to an airplane bathrooms seventeen times not this guy the flight light into Vegas is the greatest flight the history of flight yeah flight out of Vegas. Is these satisfied the history so as you can imagine it wasn't I can't even I don't want to describe what my night was. The Night of the championship weekend it was it was insane that I survived it but the airline flight I went to the bathrooms. I got up out of my seat seventeen times so just imagine forget about the actual process of what you're doing what you want. The aisle you're on an island was on an aisle but everyone I got up seventeen times so so everyone knows what's going on. I look like hell at a certain point by eight year. Just like this is who I am now you you deal with it and you pass that sort of threshold of shame. It is funny. How the feeling you get when you're in Vegas and you see the slot machines wins in the airport when you're arriving those slot machines? You're like Oh. This is awesome. You might throw a ten dollar bill in your you're feeling the moment and then you're leaving. You know same slot machines. That's like I don't ever want to look at a slot machine again. You curse him. Yes on the way out. It's like more lights more bells more whistle and over this and you have no money left. There was also one night on that Bachelor party that I got to the hotel room like five minutes after everybody else said I was knocking on the door known answered third. No one answered at all. I was calling everybody cell phone. No one answered. I was outside the store pounding for two hours pounding the door. Now pounding drinks pound on the door. Nobody answered so you know what I did. I couldn't sleep in the room that night. I just went downstairs to the lobby and just started gambling. Nobody nobody would answer my call Miss Sleep because everybody else passed out and locked me out to the front desk and gotTa Room. No no no no. It wasn't under my name. I couldn't prove that I was there so I tried that. I went downstairs and they called that's all they could do that to verify that it was there but since I didn't book on My name I could have been anybody. There's so many ways that places get that place gets you but that's that's one of the million ways that place gets you lost by room key room not my name. What do I do now gamble Donlevatar earlier in the show the question was asked what would stu gods do with one invisible dish to God's one day where he could be invisible? We decided that during banking hours you would choose a week day. He would rob all the banks wchs in the universe from eight to five and then tonight he would alter sporting event results by being an invisible man in games. He had better V._C.'s Donlevatar show with two guys on E._S._p._N.. Radio Law calls okay. I can't say that so you'll have to say it every time we say it Joe ally that I say hey did. Let's go out to <hes>. Let's go to Brian. I got a little something for the way by the way for <hes> for the raptors. There's for the Lakers and for Anthony. Davis will something something a little bit later on okay. It's not wanting. Let's go out to <hes> Bryan Bryan. Go ahead. You're on E._S._P._N.. Radio Hey hey I got a question for away. Man Okay all out streetfight. Who would you rather fight com brady or Dan Marino so I could choose either? I thought it was going to be Marino versus Brady in a street fight you you. Do I feel like I mean I gotta go Marino right like I'd rather fight Marino crazy away. No you can take. Tom Brady anybody in Western P._A.. Are You thinking current date day age stat. He's just in better shape. I'm thinking Brady is running the forty faster now than Iran when he came out of college. I'm thinking he's in better shape now than when he came out of college because of this Guerrero Guy I'm thinking I can mop the floor with Marino at this age I mean I could actually actually I think I feel like I can dance limping around ten. Have you seen Dan around town. I Love Marino Dan around town all the time. It's not really a run in those circles I mean but you live in Dade County. He lives in Broward so I see him a golf courses and at restaurants you know Anthony's coal fire wings and while he's still looks great. I mean I had some devil. He is definitely limpid around a little bit laser. I'm not even doing this in prime. I'd much rather fight. Tom Brady today than Dan Marino today. I'm doing a Western P._A.. Thing in Wow Italian thing. I don't want any part of Dan Marino. Where's where's Brady from is he from Michigan? I know he's from California is Kelly kid so you're thinking Pennsylvania Kelly Kid Roy who you go with here who you fight on vying Brady. You're fighting brady absolutely belly. I think Marino if its current Dan Marino current day marina what have we had them both in their pro. What have you had eighty four marina with the curly hair a little bit greasy? Ah Eighty four Marino at prime Tom Brady so primary no versus Prime Brady and Brady is right now. Yeah Brady entered yes prime. I don't know we'll find out pliability. I don't know how much this helps you in a fight. WHO's a tougher guy? Are there rules to this fighter. It's a straight fight. I may know rolls to a straight fight all right so marinas GONNA be Fighting Dirtier. I think marinas more surly right aren't the reports on him like he's not the nicest guy right well. There's just us at leaked video of him doing that. Recording right he flashes his <hes> His anger and I don't Wanna I don't WanNa be on the wrong side of that anger. You feel like Brady's a fighter at all right. Do you think Tom Brady's ever been in a fistfight. I don't think so sir. I think I guarantee you. Dan Marino has been plenty fistfights. Absolutely I just think Marino being tied up by like the dock ace Ventura and I feel like he can be had right. Put It on the poll by the way it's a good question as Tom Brady ever been in a fistfight my guess would be no. He's never been in one. No no marinas several is right up in Pennsylvania the also being like a media star before the media before camera phones. I bet you they Marino probably had a fistfight last week. If I had to put to put money on it is really he seems like who do you think we'll just fight July. Let's go out to Tangerine and goes wrong to walk that back. I know I don't think the flight last week payment but it would have been something if he did Alison. Get Marino on the line. Maybe let's go to let's go to Rod Rod Guy. Go ahead. You're on E._S._P._N.. E._S._P._N.. Radio Rod got a question for you. We're waiting. I'm a thanks even ticket older and I can't get over but no call. What do I do? Training can't start and another. Are you work by the way what's going on are you. Are you working at work. Yeah okay all right our our superdome so I mean that's the problem right but your boss will be mad at you if you were making this call on on his dime right okay because it seems like you're ducking under your cubicle or you're hiding in a corner and a corridor somewhere. That's what it feels like a Rod. You're saying you're still a season ticket the whole there but you're still mad why'd you renew your season tickets. If you're that mad because I've been seems ticket holder for for most of my life so I mean I with Mir Miracle I went through you know that two thousand eleven loss to San Francisco so I'm trying to get through this one but it's like when Boyz came it's still was you know associate that call over and over again right but not the saints fall. That's the referee's fault so you can't really blame your team and you've sat through way worse years than than what you sat through last year as a saints Saints Fan and you'll get renewing the tickets so this seems like an easy one. Just just keep paying all right thanks to you got to be good right. Although you have been good and you're going to be good their last playoff elimination sets is pretty wild. Yes it's not just the pass interference but I was thinking yesterday about the way the Minnesota one head game against New Orleans yesterday you were thinking about. I went to top golf yesterday and I saw a game top golf. I it was that N._F._C. N._F._C. Playoff game between the saints and Vikings so all of it came back to me and I was remembering what a wild game. I mean what what an incredible incredible finish just inventing ways to lose but I don't want to hear how tough life is for the Saints Fan it. It's been pretty good these last few years as a jet Fan. I would've taken the last even with all that heartache. I would've taken the last two years the last two years. If that happened to the jets it would have been the greatest two years of jet football my lifetime. I I guess maybe the A._F._C. Championship Games back to back but even in those A._F._C. Championship Games. I didn't feel like the jets had much much of a shot. At least the saints you feel like they have a shot at winning the super bowl the last two seasons and this I would take any year that they had ever since they've had drew brees.

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The Big Suey: Is Daniel Day Lewis Funny?

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The Big Suey: Is Daniel Day Lewis Funny?

"Started really being honest found. Just giant piece of. Siri Bald. Eagles podcast exclusive that none of our bosses asked for more sports more work less pay. I haven't stopped talking a month I mean. Just, when you thought this show couldn't be more diluted. Last. Time I listened to the ship I haven't listened for years. Now here's the marching band to no way. Am I missing something? What am I missing the end of the story that phase? Chris Valika it's FA- LICO. Pena Sandra Habitual Liar Aspirin. For all of it big SOUILLE. I'm Chris Cody be SPN. So some of you astute listeners of what we do around here might have felt this man's imprint on sons of things hiding in the shadows here on what we've been doing with big Sui little local our like I can't tell you how much I respect this dude as a creative force because he's you know the father of like a a my generation of comedy, right? Whether it's Saturday night live being etay day and writing for that show or. Making the movies that I love so much that I quote lines from whether it's a step brothers are anchorman and then graduating from that from Talladega nights from Sasha Baron Cohen Genius in his own right now, doing the heavy stuff the heavy lifting in Hollywood where he's doing the political movies where he uses his power to do a movie with billy. corgan cocaine cowboys director about politics and Miami because he's the gatekeeper hbo where he creates things like. Succession or as an executive producer on them and you know show like Netflix's detainee is just one of his side projects. Anyway. All of that is awkward introduction to tell you how much I respect Adam, McKay, who now is at the height of Hollywood with the release here just recently saying that he is making a movie about I think it's about climate change talk to him about that in a second but with the height of Hollywood. With you know you're talking about Meryl Streep and DiCaprio and Jennifer Lawrence, and so he's doing an important movie at an important time trying to making it, make it during a pandemic and he joins us now all of which is long winded introduction to explain to the audience that I wanNa talk to him about his creativity in the projects that he's done funnier. Die Is another side project just like this is he's got a ton of them so anyways. Adam. Thank you. If I told you though when you were doing, let's just make it anchorman. Hey, fifteen years it's GonNa be Streep DiCaprio and you're going to be the hotshot Hollywood director who gets to tell a climate change movie. Did you think that that's where it would end up? No definitely not You know I mean you just do what's in front of you. You know like so we were so giddy to do anchorman we couldn't believe. That we were out like in a you know parking lot with like expensive camera equipment and professionals around us. That was such a a giddy experience feral just laughing the whole time so. I was happy to have a functioning working camera with DP behind it. That was like my dream achieved. Okay. So what you're doing now is basically because it's important, right? You've got a movie coming out on HBO Because you took care of some local filmmakers here in Miami who are also very good and you got something made here about Miami and October that you love dry years discerning palate. So I I wanted to talk to you a little bit about that as well. What what can we tell the audience about what your what that project, why that project is something that? was meaningful for you to do. Honestly, I gotTa give you a fair amount of credit. 'cause now I've gotten to know you pretty well through two years and your friends with billy corgan and Alfred spellman who terrific filmmakers who have done some of my favorite documentaries, cocaine cowboys, screwball I think one of the best thirty for thirty is the you and a bunch of other great projects as well. So I was already huge fans of these guys. You know I had some brushes with them through the years like you know just saying how much I appreciate it screwball, and then coming back and said, thank you. But you were the one who told me they're working on a movie that's right up your alley called Five, thirty seven and it's a the twentieth anniversary of the recount in Florida when. Joe Supreme Court basically decided the election for George W. Bush over Al Gore that was one of those kind of. Fork in the road moments in American, history where we could gone out one direction or the other and because of intervention from Republican Party operatives and nothing I'm saying by the way, Republicans would agree with those two who know about what happened this is what happened they did incredible job of getting down there with their operatives and swinging making certain votes weren't counted and making sure through the Supreme Court the George. W Bush won that election which changed the course of American history So they did a documentary and what I love about billion Alford is whatever they do. It's got a and buoyancy to it. It's fun. It's got a it's got a likeness while at the same time talking about really important stuff and and that's kind of what I try and do with this stuff I make as well. So really was like a peanut butter chocolate kinda moment where when I started working with them and giving notes and going back and forth I was like Oh this fits like a glove and best of all the movies terrific and HBO bought it and Give It on a nice big, Fat Premiere on October Twenty First. this is the definition of a movie. You could watch with your kids kids or as old as forty years old I mean this is a major moment in American history and it's fun and there's stopping it. I didn't even know about even though I lived through it so. Credit to you man you definitely hooked us up on this Well, the documentary I thought I don't know what you love the most about it. Okay. But because it is the rare combination of funny and infuriating but to me the idea that these guys could make a movie that would absolutely explain what's happening in America right now today is it feels. Like America's burning without ever mentioning what's going on today or just in a very glancing fashion like it's not that overt that we've already lived what we're living. Now we lived at in two thousand I. It's remarkable and it's your one hundred percent right and what you realize is these you know the forces that have been kind of dismantling American government and society. And all of our institutions You know they've been in play for a long time. You know these things have been around a lot of people can trace that that some people call it the Reagan revolution to the mid seventies when he's forces started coming together with money and the religious rights and the corporate right and all these things. So really what you see. All, these episodes are almost like a Russian doll where the small one within the bigger within the bigger, and they're all kind of mirrors of each other. So you're you're a hundred percent, right you take that this recount story and it lays like perfect hemp played over what's happening. Now it's the same courses but in this case, it happened in one of America's most. Constrained doubts which you know very well, Miami, Florida and and Florida. So it's really an Alford just have a great I for what's happening in Florida a great fence collect carl highest kind kinda like yourself a great sense of what Florida's about and that was the part I loved about the movie. There was such a lens of local politics. You know all politics is local and yet it was local politics being backed up. into the entire country No, it's. It's. It's really so enjoyable informative. Funny. The characters and then you're right like just a baseline of Holy Crap this whole last twenty years could have been completely different that goes another way. Well, it's funny because in getting to know each other in in years I've gotten a sense that you really know your politics, you really know your history but that you had a bit of a blind spot I gathered about what exactly Cuban politics is because what happened with the Elian Gonzales story I've found is that all throughout the country it felt lonely story is a Cuban-american as I lived it in two thousand because nobody understood. What Cubans were saying because of how much we valued freedom that that kids mother died trying to get him to freedom and it felt very lonely trying to tell America that because America wasn't hearing it. Yeah I had no idea because I was on Sarah live and that all happened in fact, I think I really wanted to sketches they show a little co one of the sketches they experts in the movie. And I had no I, just didn't know about the. What would you call it? The powder keg and the political power of the cuban-american. Population. Down in southern Florida you know my my knowledge of it was pretty much. You know I knew about the rise of Fidel. Castro. I knew I watch godfather too. So I knew it for that a little bit. I lived in Florida when I was a kid for like a year but I was little I didn't really counter. and I just didn't understand those dynamics were at play and now you're seeing it again this year I mean I just saw story billy corporate posted actually about how trump was trying to do business in Cuba and was registry LLC's down in Cuba and setting up to do real estate deals with the Cuban government. And I read it and I had a whole different layer nuanced response to it like God what is the Cuban American population thinking Florida at this like do they care or are they just down for trump? No matter what and so yeah that's my favorite part of the documentary. It's just a whole world that I wasn't as familiar with. It's interesting because the movie you're presently working on and I don't know what we're allowed to tell people about DiCaprio and Meryl Streep. But one of the things that you're doing on a grander scale it sounds like is you're making the biggest Hollywood movie with the stars. And you wanted to have a climate message. You want climate change message you you you. You are no longer just making the frivolous stuff that makes you laugh. You're now trying to make work that matters during important time, which is what art is supposed to do. So just trying to laugh here with the movie you're making the how are you trying to sort of give us a message about how you know your beloved California's burning with hundred twenty-five mile an hour tornado fighters. I have to laugh because every time I hear. Casually talk about fired for does it's just it's beyond it's something we would have written a sketch at nineteen nine. We would would've made the idea love fired tornado, and now they're just heart of the weather forecast in. Florida. You have this one was a comedy. It's called look up and you're allowed to talk about it. We announced the cast yesterday. So it's the Caprio Jen Lawrence and actor Rob Morgan or three kind of main scientists that movie and then Meryl Streep plays the President Jonah Hill plays our son keep Blanchett's in it as a sort of morning political talk show. and we've got Ms. Patel is warrants as boyfriend great actor, Kid Cudi's in it. Arianna Day. Is this GONNA sing this incredible song for it and so yeah, we got a credible cast. It's a comedy scientists. Discover is Kinda mid level Kinda slutty scientists discover that you know a ten kilometer wide. Interstellar a comment is going to hit earth. And they up on a media tour to warn everyone and basically it's it was written as initially as a pretty thinly veiled analogy for climate change. But now with happened I wrote it before the pandemic it's really now just about the way we communicate Al crazy everything is and one of the scientists gets turned into a celebrity. The other ends up becoming like hated and you know and their worlds or just ripped apart the sciences. Twisted and you know confused and it's it's a lot of stuff you would think what happened but hopefully we do it in unique and ultimately funny way I mean it's definitely a comedy and so it's GonNa be it's GonNa be good to be able to laugh a little bit as we deal with. Fire. Tornadoes and. And micro micro fire climate. That's another one I've been hearing about lately and and Parts of the Gulf coast are hit with four consecutive hurricanes. I mean I it's it's just jaw dropping the scale of it yet we still chug along talking about how lady on bell got released, which by the way don't get me wrong. I'm interested in it. I WanNa see where he goes. It's just funny like day in day out to be like I talk with a friend of mine. I. Wonder if the steelers would take them back and then the next news story is fire tornado hits you know. Hits Hospital or something it's it's crazy. You don't WanNa hear about to his foot work. You don't WanNa. That's not something you want to hear about that. This is the time you don't want to talk about two footwork. Always WanNa talk about two hours footwork. I'll just ask one question how hips how you flipping those apps when he's got when he's turning turning field when he's breaking out of the pocket flipping those hips fast. are you right now filming in Boston? Are you like are you in the middle? You're saying all of this in the middle of a pandemic I think you're supposed to be filming this movie a year ago I don't know if you would have had to Caprio and Meryl Streep if you had filmed the year ago but are you going to be telling the story of our times through this comedy? Aren't you like the pandemic? In filming, it's Yeah Yeah, we're we're we're in Boston where in pre production, we have the craziest safety protocols I mean borderline NBA level safety protocols I love by the way that the NBA. Medical Gold Standard, it's not the federal government it's not the CDC. NBA has now become the United States gold standard per epidemiological option. Medication. Origin politics colliding as you know McKay as you know it's and and so we're doing we're. Doing battle here at Boston and we're in pre production and so far. So good. I, mean we've had we passed every week we do spot tests and we've had no positive returns and the actors are coming in and we have a whole crazy protocol shoots Yeah I. Mean we basically we're gonNA have kind of similar what we before the pandemic everyone was circling discussing it but I think what happened is just lit a fire under everyone because everyone was emailing you know saying and jumping on the phone thing I can't believe you wrote this before the pandemic because. Half the stuff it has happened I mean it's it's been really freaky although I always say that that doesn't mean my writing is so president, it just means the the total beep storm that we're in right now is so predictable. That's. All it's like saying like Oh when that car crashes Windows GonNa break I mean that's that's the level of me being master dominance on this. It's all fairly obvious what's going to be happening. So yeah. Yeah. We're going to give it a go man and and you know the safety is so strong that everyone feels good about it and by chance can't pull it off. Then we go home and. Hopefully. Resume when there's a vaccine Adam you are so good on the subjects of climate change and politics are you honored Do you sort of take a an amount of ego pride in the fact that DiCaprio and Meryl Streep both very discerning artists not just movie stars but people who make choices that other people go to their movies because of those choices, those people make not just because they're good actors did they choose your movie because it is a comedy for our times I don't think of those two his. Comedic actors I mean the funny thing is they're both hilarious. You know like Wolf of Wall Street is a comedy opinion and and DiCaprio kill being and that was one of the reasons when his name came up. I was like Oh you could do this streep spin crazy funny up on just you know it's funny when you get to these actors when they're this good, they're funny like one of the funniest actors ever work with Ryan. Gosling is crazy funny Christian Bale's really funny amy. Adams has done comedies so it's he's really Good actors just tend to be funny as well. So yeah, I think definitely I think we're all desperate for some way to process going on you know it is kind of what we do and you know we make believe. So you know when you're living through something like this you the idea that you can do a movie that's like kind of processing it and dealing with it and then on top of it, we get a laugh which is definitely one of the best reactions you can hop to what's going on is grim. Is Everything. It is as everything is So yeah, it was it was very exciting. It's by the way I. Don't mean the Dow play. It's always exciting when you write a script and I'll never forget it was the big short and you send it to these actors or you admire so much and then you hear back like Ryan Gosling wants to do the big short Meryl Streep loves it. She's in like that is one of the most thrilling thing because you know I grew up watching these people I mean Meryl Streep. I think there's not much of an argument, probably the greatest film actor in history. So and by the way the lovely as warmest most generous person I, know people say that about everyone but she actually is. So when she said, yes I mean there's no doubt I was Giddy like a twelve year old for like four hours. You know Stugatz says she's a fraud. She's a fraud to God says pounded hers fraud overrated as one of the Gods Fable Bron argument you can get into the final so many times. But how many times have you lost your a Cliche McKay saying all the throwing all the roses at our beloved the overrated Meryl Streep. I you've got gotta be surprised that McKay is saying that Christian Bale is really funny I mean is American psycho a comedy yeah. It's it's one of my favorite comedies of all time. Yeah. And he's funny into big short like there are some moments in the big shirt where he's hilarious when they confront him about like, why are you making this crazy investments? That's all of our money and there's really he got huge labs and not part of any goofball he's like the craziest thing was shooting vice 'cause he's in this like world class makeup. You know the guy literally team literally won an academy award for it and he looks exactly like Dick Cheney. And he keeps doing the boys, but you can still talk to him as Christian Bale. So I was like hanging out on the set with like Twenty Cool Dick Cheney who I thought he was a Thespian you can be both things when you're saying as a director, you're saying that to be good at acting, you almost have to be funny unless you're one of these self serious guys like Mike Shannon Mike chanted funny going Mike Senate is funny. I'm telling you I never met a great actor Brad Pitt is hilarious like have you ever seen Brad Pitt in snatch? He is so funny I've got him right here actually hold on a second I've got them right here. Here, I've got him right here. I've se-. I've got Brad Brad, Brad Pitt, and snatches right here. This is like the lame version of parading Blake Griffin around. Donald Sterling okay. So you're fine. periwinkle blue heart is terrible. No no I'm saying like. All Right Tim. LEARY SNL sometimes, we would have serious actors on and everyone go. Are they funny and if it was a really good actor go yeah. They're even if they're not funny they're gonNa get it to the degree that you know they're going to be good and sure enough like Julianne Moore hosted an was awesome like sketch she was in she was incredible just because she's a great actor like, I, mean the only guy I've never met him but like is Daniel Day Lewis that would be the one. But I don't know I. I. Don't I've never asked anyone that's never asked anyone you've got access to all these people. How can you not ask the question of whether or not? Daniel Day Lewis? Funny. He's the guy didn't my left foot right? He became a character actor and he actually lived his life for how long with only his left foot. Yeah. Yeah, I mean and and he actually did it for months and months and months, and he is a guy who stays in character like when you talk to him, I do this. When he's off camera, he stays in character and you have to refer to the character whereas bales stays in character but it's weird. You could still talk them as Christian. Bale. Is. Daniel day-lewis. Funny. You can't just ask him going through now I mean when I when I talked to him again, I will definitely ask him. Is He funny he does he crack jokes as he said, we is he Yeah we'll find out I will bring you that information back. All right. I got a question for you is is Donald, Hasim funny. You. DONNAS has I. Think I've told this story before I've only seen you. Donna's has LEM laugh one time and when I came back into the highly questionable studio and he was and I've covered him since high school. And he is leaning up against my father and they're watching my father do rap video lyrics with the rappers themselves on television, and so you don has lem might be funny but I had never seen it before my my father brought it out of him. I think our goal our joint venture between our company and you guys has to be get your donnas has one on the Larry David Show okay I think that has. To be like our artists, soul mission and I know some of the writers on it and Larry David around town and we gotta get him to do a scene on that show. Well, didn't I think Roy. Hibbert. Mike. Sure. Was All happy because Roy Hibbert was in an episode of parks and REC just the most random thing you've ever seen in your life All of a sudden didn't Roy Hibbert becoming a recurring character entirely shrimp dead. I'll we've got to start planting. You're kidding we've got no he's not kidding. Kidding, but we've got to start planning hold on a second Tommy had the warehouse for his his company. He just paid obscene amounts of money just to have dealt shrimp plan pick pickup ball in the offices. Shawn Kemp was on wings for three seasons. Wait a minute. McKay you've got this what you've gotta do for the Big Sui audience and for the local our audience and for. All the podcasters you have to help us figure out a way to randomly get maybe can we Donna's has lemon your movie in this movie can I get you down? This has curb your enthusiasm appearance next Merrill Star. Mention Meryl Streep. Or we can I tell you my shots get my Sean kept story. Yes. Of course we try. We try and get anchorman made and I no one will make. Every financier, every studio I told this story before everyone says it was like twenty two knows it was like just like you're a boxer and you broke your right hand, you can't throw it anymore and a guy hitting you in the face with twenty two straight punches. So it was awful. So that's it. You go to the back of the line. We couldn't get our movie made. So the only movie that anymore green light for Farrell is a movie where he's a grown man who plays an out. And we get John Fabric or directed, and I come out to L. A. and I'm in hotel room and we're kind of sitting there like what happened like how did it all go? So wrong that we're rewriting the script where you're a grown man playing out. And Farrell just looking at me like I don't own an but it's the only movie I got like. Anyone will let me do and we're like, all right. We gotta make a good like let's just writer asses off. We'll do the best we can, and meanwhile I'm in this hotel room and I started see this very tall African American guy walking up and down the stairs and I love the NBA. So I'm like holy crap. That's Shawn Kemp. And we start putting it together. We realized Shawn Kemp has come into La. because. Careers kind of winding down at the cavaliers caught him and the clippers will give it a try out in the Lakers. Get Look. So you stand in this hotel and Santa Monica. And every morning I would walk up to go to the hotel with because I wasn't staying using. There's a writing room and I would see outside. Shawn. Kemp's door. There would be like three MC pleats from pizzas. And I was like Oh Sean No. No, and I gotTA give it up to John. Fabio. Very very funny. Sometimes, I would be standing by the open doorway on the balcony right across from with Shawn Kemp. And would walk out of his room and y'all. Hey, sean and then fowler with duck away. So it would just be me left standing in the doorway. Trump? Up just screamed his name and I would have to waive it awkwardly. But Anyway, I did that with Pat Dillon your story. Wait a minute. Cooler than mine. I did that with former Blue Jays general manager Pat Gillick you did it Shawn Kemp and five row. It's use bad. Though don't don't somebody is the more obscure the name the better anyway the final thing is I've been, we've finished the off script everyone was happy with it my last day there I saw Shawn camp and I was like, Hey, man, this is weird but we've been writing a script over here for the last three weeks that you've been here when you signed my script. So I have I draft or maybe the third draft of L. because he was another draft before. L. And it's autographed by Sean. Kemp is one of my favorite objects that I own. else okay. We've got to get you out of here because you're an important Hollywood person and you've got a very hard out here but I wanted to talk to you like you've got a side projects things like you're the executive producer with feral on things like dead to me and succession like you've become a a real taste maker when it comes to like discerning a television making even as your side projects like how does all of that come to be? It's a it's a you talk and they will take you away drag you famous Hollywood director guy but just explain to me like how it is that. You have your fingerprints all over. So many cool things. Well, that was those shows came out. Of IANNA, company with Farrell, for fourteen years, Sanchez productions, and basically you know you hire really good producers who work with you and find projects and bring them back. So in the case of dead to me, that's a great preserved who still works at Ferrol Jessica, Obama found that show and it was great. You know you read the first script you hear the patch, you give a couple of notes on the first at it and otherwise that's really talented people doing a good job. So yeah, in that case, you're kind of the. Gatekeeper and a sense of you try not to let anything through not good and all credit to Jessica Odom. She found that show in the case of succession. That's a writer Jesse Armstrong we've worked with before Kevin Mystic heard that he was working on this pilot got into early copy and I was like I will direct this pilot. It'd be producers on we will back this honor percent. So yeah, it's it's basically the trick is the trick for everything you do hire good people and you know we have that Laker show picked up for series for a HBO still untitled was originally called showtime will, messing. With the title so that was one where we read the Jeff Pearlman book we loved it and which is like we gotta do this Max Bornstein really talented writer road I direct the pilot. We're now producers on every another show motherland's same thing Elliot Lawrence great writer at the ready to treatment for love dead. So yeah a lot of it's like people start to trust you like hbo we ever deal with so they trust us that we're not gonNA do lousy stop hopefully knock on wood, and then when you get the Project Hope it's good or not but they wanna lay some money down vacant and But the fun of it is you get to work with all these different really talented people like. Elliot Lawrence like you know in the case of Hustler, is a movie produced the reince Ghaffari crazy pounded writer director like such a joy to get to work with her, and so you just got to meet all these cool people and blend with different styles and that's my favorite thing about it with producing as you can only do so much when you ride interact but you get to be involved with like billy Corbett and Alfred. Spellman with five thirty seven and use your people have admired forever and. So. Yeah it's really fun. So we have a new company now Hyper Object Industries we've been around credit year and a half going on two years and we're doing this don't look up movie and the Lakers show and we're you know succession and a bunch of other things and And we have great producers Todd. showman. Betsy. codge Kevin Mesic. and that's really the trick. I wanted to ask you about that. Showtime Project the Showtime Project. It's Jerry. Buss and is it John C reilly or what can be there? Yeah. I think they announced I can't remember maybe I'm making a mistake but screw it. You can say John C Reilly Place Jerry Buss and is crazy good Jason Clark plays Jerry West Solemn News plays Kareem abdul-jabbar. We have all these great actors you're playing these real characters divine Nixon nor Nixon son plays Norm Nixon show and is just astoundingly good It's it's an incredible cat I mean, it was kind of a dream show for me because it's basketball but then it's also dealing with issues of race class. You know racism and and basketball I like and what it means for American culture. So it got a little weight to it, but it's time it's on his hell and I just love that show. I'm so excited for that to come out how about the journalism podcast project that you're doing with the Miami Herald reporter who you know broke really broke one of the seminal stories in journalism with everything that happened with Jeffrey Epstein Julie Brown man incredible what she did I mean that's three was fading away horrific horrific story of billionaires, sex, trafficking, young teenagers, girls, and you have Julie. Brown just wouldn't quit on it. So we're doing a podcast with her it's. Called Blokhin, seeking justice and we worked with the victims to not let this case go away because man Oh man do a lot of powerful people want it to go away and we're doing that with three uncanny four productions. Tara Palmeri is the host of the show at Davidson trae young kind of four We have another podcast that I'm doing coming out. Love the podcasting called death at the wing other I'm actually hosting and I've been working that'll probably be out in January and it's about that just the rash of young talented basketball players in the eighties and the nineties who died tragically or three drugs have their careers derail and their life reality and incredible amount of. Really young up and coming stars that we lost during that as you just don't see it anymore and so we kind of go into it like why did this happen in this fifteen year time period of the eighties and nineties? Why did we lose all these players? So once again, that's kind of a basketball about like political changed about class about. Know conceptions of wealth and excess and I, think that'll be really cool. Show too I'm excited to get that out the one thing I gotTa say, Dan you've been having this. Guy Shane Bach Lot on is like no politics just sports I just wanted to tell you and his partner Harry the worst be careful who you associate with that. Okay. Seemed like creeps and I just I. Don't know why you would have them on. Your in laws being broken when they talk to you like I get it the religious guy. But I just feel like you're better honestly as a friend. Okay I really don't need sermonizing from you Thank you. We appreciate daytime. All we did was plug you this entire time like every damn project you've got going on it was like seven you dropped so many name. So many producers there was like Oscar speech like it. Took ten minutes introduced. Full Hollywood whole Hollywood. Hey. Joe. I can't say that Julie Brown show without saying the people that are doing i. don't know what to do 'cause. They'll hear they'll be excited that it's mentioned and then he's just me going. Yeah I get that. That was all me like. Dot. Dead to me I can't talk about that and now say Jessica bombs. Enough, I don't want to hear about anymore producers. To get out of here, YOU'RE GONNA. Hear about it. You're going to hear your view of Hollywood stop interrupting around. Tuksy does sports car stop interrupting. Than that. I. Don't like that.

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The Motive

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41:17 min | 1 year ago

The Motive

"There was a party there's uk football players have been shot and killed on his birthday who can't fly him no one saw a stat night it's dark nobody knows where the bullet come from nothing is make it any easier if you don't have a motive it's hard to know which direction and go never gonna now but someone new she called me and said i think i know something about a murder we'd we never could find out why trump was killed because it was something to this we're she became key words she also become the next victim and she was scared to death confronting she knew what he was capable of and she was terrified and she was terrified in a woman's solve this mystery and ben vanishes i'm lester whole and this is why here's keith morrison wins the motive changed her heart was wrong i lost her the can music the home of other voices in the bar there was only him they were in the deep end lovers in the plush of new commission sometimes they concessionaires that'd be abandon the worst things i've ever done words just words just forgot until they could no longer be ignored lexington kentucky one year before that in my house were students at the music laughter and chatter of a birthday party swelled and add gifted in and out it'd be it wasn't a huge party is this just a low key party with some good friends they were about to be seniors young men who rented a place you hosted the party we had a group of guys four guys that got along extremely well it would be met on the university of kentucky the love while antonio oh pharaohs quarterback in lexington kentucky if if he played for the cats you're pretty much a well known entity the birthday boy twenty one years old is a true rarity the wildcats walk on you know scholarship no invitation he just showed up right after the in over three years of hard work theater starting this year gentle giant you know right called him a big teddy bear he was a great protector of all of our friend the party sweet informal friends snap pictures in evening donald in tonight it was after midnight when the party wound down i think we turned in somewhere between twelve thirty one o'clock antonio in his girlfriend went to bed outside trent of some of these others settled into the light on the front porch out there on the street was impenetrable dark inside side we're already in effect sleep and we heard a loud bang one of the most the slam the screen door but no but within ten seconds you start here the chaos outside the screaming and yelling the crying and there was trent stumped to one side in this chair under the lights trent was bleeding out of his ears in his eyes and his nose in his mouth and it was it was in a horrific scene richard in using a loud bang but then a gunshot but from where somewhere else there in the dark cuts someone intentionally fired a gun at their gentle giant teddy bear in their panic in distress they did not understand how could the nature of the mystery launched here for who've been a haze of low may have learned v answer is just so senseless what you found out why is even worse just to was tractors euro the target y'all started hanging out first grade six years old trini yeah satan turner sheryl lee ballinger where his lifelong friend if you were if his friend and that's all they're not looking great for him yeah there is no great everybody got traded just the same trip was in fourth grade when he started playing football in his hometown of goshen kentucky just outside louisville high school hubris captain of the team lots of friends so popular trend was homecoming king will surely is queen that's all i mean gosh it is part of that an aunt to be noted that and that would be the trend when it came time college trend set his sights tide turned down football scholarships to smaller schools at one point he says you know what i just gotta fight and fight a bit that division one school mike is euro is trends friend's dad actually walked out to kentucky which is in the southeast got brett's which is short but they just have gotten it worked real hard to get to where he was in france teammates saw that hard work trend had the ability to before so while you might have any walk on his performance allowed him to injure himself the others very quickly that july as trump practice football unprepared for his senior year his parents went to like you didn't see him would you talk about his future in the strategy decide what you wanna do with his life he was a talk about maybe going to law school of business school did he talked about his birthday celebration we know he was gonna have some kind of a saying that he was both come home the next day celebrate birthday with us and a never made it no creeping fear washed over the university of kentucky football team was a killer targeting them so who would be next when we return big investigation begins everyone's on a but they understanding and once they're more chair to come we were so nervous driving down the street at practice thinking that there might be someone in the woods who wants to take you out chaos is what there was on track to charles front porch is friends stood over the body and stared out into the dark with the kind of anticipating horror concern that there's more to come you know the staff which one shot is there someone who's gonna shoot again try it was officially pronounced dead at three am just about the time dawn evans evans has retired now but was a rookie detective back then this was his first homicide case what did you find when he got here there were three young men and it's very hard to make this look distraught ron and they were consoling each other on the porch trench chair was turned over to another good see blood and debris left by the ambulance crew first idea what appeared to have you know i first walked up it went with what appeared to be obvious that someone had simply walked from the side of the house fires a shot and then as fitted back toward the rear of the houses his own life almost like an alley here so it's like well it provide concealment figure that as a surprise yeah if someone's gonna take a shot that made the most sense believing the shots came from behind and police mosa showcases jennifer all day look there were none nor any other evidence still detective addictive evans figured there was a party that night so there were bound to be people who saw something i thought was as soon as i get on the headquarters separated someone's gonna tell me what happened they tell everyone tong but with each and every person that i talked to they've been singing eighty miles away at five pm the jurors phone rang at now me it's hard to imagine the feeling and suddenly you're elections makes sense anymore it absolutely stops at pivots instead and then it was kind of you know now soon everybody knew i couldn't even that could understand that he would murder somebody so wonderful about them the first three leave useful evidence came back from the medical examiner bullet fragments were recovered and they all talk city and the ballistic stick showed it wasn't a handgun at all the children it was a rifle which joined addictive at its first siri upside down all the theory about walking up the side of the house and find goes out the window that's probably out the window rifles not designed prequels renshaw officers canvas the neighborhood a woman who lives across the street said she awoke to a loud noise and it sounded like it was right outside her house so based on that we actually took one of arm arguments in the police department asked him could the shot be made from here from this angle and we literally reenacted that possibility to make sense of the location you found it did make sense we didn't eliminate the possibility of something else could occur but this this looked pretty strong to us so a working theory that trump was shot from across the street ballistic suggested it was a rifle with a particular an uncommon types of daryl but who owned it why did he or she shoot trent no idea the football team editor world of dread some hater targeting the she was one of them next we were so nervous we were so uncertain of what happened that night that it affected out daily live driving down the street at practice thinking that there might be someone in the woods who wants to take you out but days and weeks and months went by nothing happened in overtime the fear eroded but the investigation went nowhere did you ever get the place where you will just have to deal with this uncertainty for the rest of her life i would say for years into the site that make any difference yeah like a very by it and that's and bring back the stale it's why did this happen here for years in five years in and really no closer to solving it then from first case and if they want that will make you doubt yourself and then one day particular woman happen but the see an anniversary story about unsolved murder the football player back in kentucky a woman one sat in a bar in a fallen out of love and you know quite terrifying coming up i'm ex lover reveals all including a hard to believe motive for murder this could be the reason that we never could find out why trimble's killed because if something this weird when dateline continues it wasn't as if it's successful investigation could somehow undo what happened the trend is euro and yet the lack of any answer year after year seating somehow be an insult so all was good and they just have to accept i think we all kind of resigned are south every year pass a player's gonna now than it was about five years after the shooting a local attorney named tom bullock heard from an old friend a woman she was nervous tentative asked him on the phone could she revealed what she knew about the crime without saying who she was and she was extremely evasive she didn't brealey wanna tell me really anything but she pat golly finally she revealed that she was calling about a murder did she tell you what the murder she eventually came around to say it was a very high profile murder would you mind going near a new which what it was and then she told a very strange story happened in a bar she said almost a year after treasurer was killed she was falling hard for a guy they talked about how much they loved each other towards vanity evening they decided to say okay what is the worst thing that you've done like put it this way let's get to it you know that that sort of point in the relationship where you say let me hear the worst at her boyfriend's it i killed an at first she sort of left it off you know a sure you did didn't believe no of course not but then he sorted describing it you know exactly how we did it but just do didn't want it believe it after all sheet fallen in love with the guy so she said she kind of buried it stayed with infer another year and now years later on single again she had seen a story in the newspaper about the fifth anniversary trump's murder in which trench that was quoted somebody knows what happened she start really thinking about it and and touched her but she was so frightened if she said she was determined through remain anonymous they know each other intimately she knows how he would react to certain situations and she was terrified he's certainly would have remembered his conversations twitter if you told someone that you committed murder and you would certainly remember having told them that so tom bullet went to detective evans we agree that whatever information i would give him would be anonymous because for all we know the whole thing could have been hogwash that sort of tricky isn't it i mean when you got somebody make an accusation you have to be able to talk to that person well yeah but at that point beggars can't be choosers so we gave you a name so he gave me that they gave me the name of shane ragland shane ragland the woman's ex boyfriend who was he didn't take long to find out jane was the son of a wealthy businessman just so happened shane attended university of kentucky the very same time this trend this year but after college you didn't do so well you run up at least a dozen convictions drug charges multiple dui joe joe detective evans went back to attorney bullet is there anymore i'm gonna get me anymore and in ultimately he started talking about a motive and that's when the whole story to could turn into the twilight zone he told me that there was concerning shane ragland being blackballed from the fraternity put you think when you heard that stupid reason the kill somebody the fraternity in question were sigma alpha epsilon essay 0 detective evidence looked through essay ease records and there it was a pledge list machines name crossed off and then it it hit this could be the reason that we never could find out why trump was killed his because it was something this weird evans went to one of trump's closest friends and asked he heard of this guy shane raglan any such in raglan and then i could just sort of see it at that point on his face you know and i'm gonna tell the story a story about an unpleasant little incident chain was among the freshman pledging they essay you fraternity at one day as they were getting to know the campus they went in the trend storm in tremors there on the wall was a calendar of some sorority girls when shane saw that calendar right away he pointed to one of the girls girls pictures and he bragged but he had sex with her fourth chain didn't know is that girl was the girlfriend of the president's other fraternity trent did not like that one bit god worthy essay say president's at that twin shane was blackballed so at that point shane's opportunity to be in that fraternities pretty much over the motives were murderer many and varied but this seems served three years after that slight when trent was murdered in cold blood could add ridi have festered so long and if it had if that was true they had another problem the more we duck specifically in the shane ragland the more the likelihood that he would get word videos of becoming a suspect in this case and if that happens this anonymous witness was in real danger evans had no doubt that shane would remember he told and ex girlfriend about the murder and what's gonna keep him from then going up and eliminating her like the treasure now evans understood his ministry witness wasn't trying to be brave it was quite reasonably frightened how would he ever convinced her to take these ultimate risk she was very hesitant to do it and she was scared to death chicken brownie coming up setting a trap ends up on my hands are tied but who scored the court hi it's katy tur wanna keep up with msnbc while you're on the go subscribe to be msnbc daily newsletter you'll get the best of what you've missed during this unprecedented era of news text msnbc two six six eight six six to subscribe a detective evans knew you had me this mystery woman woman who is claiming she knew what happened the trend is you're too frightened the talk about it then finally with attorney tom bullet playing gatekeeper they made a deal to at least meet face to face but any more than that maybe not it was like listen don't give me involved in this yeah disguise dangerous so until you get handcuffs on him you can't involve me but evans new even if he did arrest the guy mystery woman justifying about something an ex boyfriend told her wouldn't be enough i can't imagine it prosecutors saying why can't just put her on the stand some of his attorney will come along says she's full of it yeah and in this particular case it's yeah you know what that in itself is not gonna do it nor should it still still in a situation where this has become from him him meaning shane ragland evans told you they had to find a way to get shane to admit on tape what he did otherwise what jury would by such a ludicrous motive from murder there was only one way you told her she'd have to wear a wire she wasn't very happy with that obviously i should think not she asked me if i could spell anonymous but he said she came around she wanted to do what's right all along she just like do that without getting herself killed doing it but you would only proceed on one condition i gotta prove why she was gonna be safe as approve how are we gonna do this it wasn't enough for me to say don't worry we won't have a gun will look for bulges so they came up with a plan ever recover story to protect a fictitious job a phony address and then casually she resume contact with shane a few emails little fluffy at times on both then people sometimes hear from their axis right i mean that that happens and finally this thing she told shane she'd be passing through the lectures at airport on business and he agreed to major he'd was in this airport lounge surrounded by undercover cops in f b i n behind security it'd be sure she was unarmed to reminisce in our so tell me about our relationship and then she went for ended up on my main meal at a time she never had adding feel ashamed what kind of out that point he paused and it's like she knew exactly what she's talking i think the only name not knowing him and that's kind of ignored saying trans name was delivered to talk to her about that and let's make sure we know what you're talking about when we play this for jury later that you brought up with a beard it'd be the motives that the trinity black bowling somebody do that do you ever think about this and i have to get off my head because i so what do you plan on ever sensing something the cops knowing they didn't quite have what they need it not yet held their breath and listen when he said are you setting me up at bats when things got really scary but she kept her cool and they did and then ten minutes later shane came back but just what the detectives neither did here she made him so confident and comfortable that he came back to the subject in left us with what we really needed a at that point it came out of his own mouth they picked him up the next day to come downtown aston which is true with an old girlfriend was telling the she tells us that there and you're talking about the murder she's alive never happy just making that up to one hundred percent absolutely absolutely nothing shane denied it all denied knowing trend didn't even know where he lives and i talking about trent west her i'd never mentioned in west virginia say nothing about ended up a murderer so them is inquisitive stretched airport recording i wanna play here for now once you listen to buy a product which whenever you don't need you talk about that's not the truth niacin i didn't i didn't talk about trade i swear to god i did not do this positive denials worked in no one fail shane ragged was charged with murder bail was set at changed wealthy father paid it a million dollars cash so shane was free pending trial which was a very big problem for the ex girlfriend who turned him in police moved to a secure location kept denying her and then strange things started happening we got information from are state police intelligence section that there was a hit out on this girl there were phone calls to her friends that would ask have you seen her do you know where she is these these days obviously trying to locate and with all that going on she had to do precisely what she didn't want to do go public show herself justify the world would know let her name is amy lloyd and the she was truly terrifying coming up amy goes public for the first time facing her fingers air shane tell me that he shot at the defense hits back hard if in fact someone had actually told you they had engaged in a killing of another person in you continue a romantic relationship with them that seems a bit a bit on wednesdays line continues if there was any doubt how seriously police to received threats amy lloyd secured this put it to rest amy rushed into court by a swat team but trent zeros darrow's that my new if she rape the danger and told her story i don't know how jerry could sort of not convicted but when it came time for a child then prosecutor dna lewin read is all too aware she was alleging a very hard to believe mode i think i was like everybody else a little incredulous that somebody would let the fact that they've been blackballed from a fraternity faster for years and culminating killing the person they blame blackballing then i do the head a bit more of the same say found what they believed was the murder weapon the two fortythree whether it be rifle changed mother's titles and at his father's place they found two forty three caliber bullets like bees that'd be i experts at testing linked those bullets to the fragments from the fatal bullet the defense argued the tests were not reliable science science going with any lloyd and now nearly eight years after trump was killed here was the one person who could tell the story amy law finally revealed herself publicly though because she remains names frightened even now we've obscured her image in this video recorder by the court the prosecution's star witness talked about that night in the bar shade according to her straight out confessing the murder he has you know he had a if i remember the football players they then killed can only is named friend told me that he shot in the prosecutor red cornu amy story had a weakness so no choice but to confront it he did not break off the relationship factor he says no we didn't throw the police or and now i just i ignored it just ignored when he said he's right i forgot about it i don't wanna listen to it i don't wanna hear it then when it believe it why because she was in love with the jews during his testimony the prosecutor played the tape the sting meeting of the year before that said the prosecutor clear as day wasn't admission that he did indeed commit the murder defend against that has changed father hired a firm devote defense team got three true which might have changed lawyers if in fact someone had actually told you they had engaged in a killing of another person in you continue a romantic relationship with them that seems a bit a bit odd when the defense cross examined she knew his company had to an attack on her credibility but could shift suspected how person it would be this from truth the ad council when amy said she went home machine that night after he talked about killing someone word you concerned about spending the live with somebody who had committed to you as he had killed someone else i blocked at from my mind i didn't want to hear then kind of nervous embarrassment filled the courtroom the defense had gotten access the amy's very personal very explicit diary and confronted with their injuries one by x rated one we are trying to challenge the credibility of the prosecution's case in sometimes that gets uncomfortable this is what amy road the day after she said shane confessed to her murder april the thirtieth the very next day you're making notation made love afternoon great day we have the sake of decency left out the most explicit entries made public click by the defense that day and then made the third what's the date that you recordings you took a bath together and made loves right yes that was on may seventh you know tated you notice great love decided i would move them were in july 'perfect yeah so this man who told you that he's killed someone you made the decision that you were going to he got in july so was her credibility harm when there was still after all that incriminating airport regarding or was it incriminating you'll never did go to shuffle gilchrist why would i wanna eat it already told me if i said to him did you kill trent when he already knew he told me five years ago he would have he would have known that that i that i was there in fact two sunny low getting ticketing the minute you rehearsed that hurts by the detective tective evidence that others don't give him an opportunity to deny that feeling had a shot trips now at the defense planted the seed of reasonable doubt maybe the jury a journey don't think about it and transferring wait i've never been so terrified and so scared of my life in heart's gonna automobiles and iron hunter mountain our five hours later with a jury find the defendant guilty you'll do intentional murder guilty of intentional murders ascension my thirty years you know the he was guilty noted this guy who sit nash mugging nami morris full is is guilty and found guilty and bony feel good about that mike zero thought it was done okay this is that he's going to jail it's over amy she vanished amy was afraid and ashamed raglan and we told her that if she testified we would do what we could have let her have a new identity and law enforcement helped her get a new identity new identity would be a problem you talked about something that just blows you away i mean i can't even cutting the grass does this case was over not even close coming off a stunning reversal norm innocent will there ever be justin sport trent it's a while here we go over here it was early spring in kentucky when justice is done for the murder of trucks zero banks this runs new do a woman who faced up to fear and told her story we've never met any and i literally grateful for everything that she's done for not only a trump and his family but for us except it wasn't a field of course it was standard procedure the what happened is nonstandard at all accord reverse the jury's decision any common sense and shane ragland went home on a million dollars bail paid by his dad the way through a whole new trial it's been a long time shiny outside i don't really look at like that i'll look at the long term goal of lighting a case against me this is false and the norm innocent so i don't worry about my feelings creature comforts why was the verdict thrown out it had nothing to do with amy lloyd order explosive testimony or the sting tape recordings of the airport all of that is fine so what would you the bullet that killed trent f b i expert linked fragments of that bullet foundering the autopsy the bullets like viz there were found in chains father's house but after shane's conviction f b i realise the test it used was in fact that science and stopped using it these are things we'd been arguing for years frankly a shouldn't have been admitted and the court agreed with the defense when this reversal what happened is that like blow i mean it was a real blau kind of the matter is and it was one of the smaller pieces of evidence in my mind yes when what you thought we've done it's done what is it do you it's oh here we go over here we gotta go through this yet another time and they yet another time we realized pretty quickly we're gonna be without some key other you know amyloid wasn't coming back no amy lord was not going to testify a second time that was the deal she made justify wants then disappear there is no way to bring her back because once someone has that level of cover you can't undo it bringing back the do it again in and do it again no option but to make a deal shane got to plead guilty of second degree manslaughter and there's you committed crimes were pleading guilty to which meant that at least you know admitted firing fatally shot at that letter plea bargain see you know spend another ten years in jail i mac in bed with that oh but it wasn't ten more years wasn't any more years you got the time he'd already served five years plus just three days of house arrest three more days three more days he walked out of the courtroom went home and that really kept i did help a little said mike this year old when he successfully sued shane in civil court for wrongful death the jury awarded him sixty three million dollars later produced a thirty three million no matter said mike he hasn't received penny doesn't expect but money was never the point he's never really accepted responsibility for what he did jane went on with his life and then a few years later he was involved in a serious car accident he's in a wheelchair now that was back in court on an unrelated case what about amy if that's even her name now how she's doing now she's living a new life which she do you wanna tell me anything at all i'm sorry but i'm not going to be able to tell you anything about her current life at all at all as from my choice she knew he could sink the bitterness or too wordy pusher frustrations over this well what has come from all of this is a we consider very positive thing the trend is euro foundation is it water nearly a hundred scholarships to walk on football players and others at the university of kentucky in a local high schools young people with determination and personal courage just like trent you'll never make any sense of his death if if it makes sense of his wife who makes sense of what we've done to commemorate trent to remember trip an giving these young folks and opportunity credit won't have the end remarkably trench friend remained exceedingly close even twentyfive years after that shot in the dark we'll examine why not that they are failing i think it says so much about what trump meant to these kids and young adults now and what they made the us has been a blessing us they all get together and the glass and go story the measure it becomes at adult gosh i'm sure but magnificent just says he was a teenager i'm kind of pissed that i don't get to meet his wife or nita's kids or oh gosh cheryl did all these things we've had the opportunity share with each other but i think you know when i get rid of those like these feelings you know the underlying feeling is just sort of gratitude that he was in my life even for a brief moment in time that's all for this edition of dateline will well see you again next friday at ten nine central and of course all see which way diaper nbc nightly news lester holt for all of us at nbc news good and i

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Full Spectrum Cycling #67  Dave in the Studio  Jasons Back on the Road

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Full Spectrum Cycling #67 Dave in the Studio Jasons Back on the Road

"Welcome radio listener. It's full spectrum cycling number sixty seven. Sixty seven retirement. no jk this week, but filling in the role of JK as Davis Lebowski I. Don't know if I can fill those shoes. And is ever Tony Across the table? Aims Mike. Distant, where's the ruler? Six feet away here pretty close to six feet I think Foci Karaki. I'm not coughing. You've got no damn fever yet. Yet that sad. because. It's so hot in here and now it's seventy nine degrees thought. Maybe? But you know. Things have been opening up obviously but I. Just keep walking to places and going. A. Go in there right out by right. My neighborhood we're very excited for a one of our favorite neighbor and bartenders is opening her own restaurant for a first time Paloma TACO and Tequila and And she was doing. Thursday night like takeovers at Tusk at the restaurant that. Was bartending at and the food was ridiculously good, so we're super excited for to open. And three, ed's really acute little tiny. Restaurant. But, I think we're going to be sitting out on the. Sidewalk. For Horse Awhile I got. She's got a very nice Nice Picnic, tables and stuff. It's a nice building setback, so she's got a big, so she's got that. I know I've been going I. I got back from a trip. I'll go to restaurants inside up north kind of in the middle of nowhere. They're like very few if they're doing distancing and there's very few cases, but Milwaukee's still Milwaukee, man I? You know I think it. Could I mean unless something? Not a miracle wherever you want to call it happens at this can somehow be. corralled. Efficiently I think we're GONNA see more more businesses have to change to a much greater outdoor model. And you'll see you know areas where you know It's like if you're in Europe, I know if you're a year for example, the restaurants are small, but there's all kinds of outside seating. To boot people right and they. said. They said you know close close. Yeah, well, yeah, but you know might start seeing streets close and tables garden street certainty. Milwaukee now. They've got a new program to allow businesses to close streets and add those little things in the past. Three closed. On, at or by the Oriental and Logan. That little sidestreet is was perfectly close. It's like everybody's being political about it. It's like Oh, we want it by US another. So if your food is good, who maybe you can? Probably. Down on the on the south side and Bayview there. Oh, you need it here. We need it here. We need it either getting a target as just shiny spanky, no. Haven't been a target at age twenty target. I don't go on Walmart's and I don't go in targets. I'm right there with. That was hilarious that. I don't know they've had a target on chase. You haven't now it's real beef. You Owe who stories. You know it's probably going to be on K. K. of course because what isn't cake. Or write off OCCA-. So last time we saw dave was on. The black is beautiful. Ride now which we talked we did talk about it last week a little bit, but what was what was your impression I? As I said a talking to you guys. Earlier I I've only been on a couple of the marches, and at the end of the marches I. I was surprised how positive I felt, and how uplifting being part of that was and And this. Black is beautiful. Ride was bicycles to. Rally so and and led by you know webster acts, and you know all these great you know. Like Dallin was there. Right in front of. Noah kept taking lots of pictures lex. He was freaking out I kind of. Do you know I'm sorry I am a huge fan, so I may get a little bit more attention. but yeah, so I thought it was really really positive experience, and as I said last week. How about those skateboarders yeah? Some of those kids were freaking tight. Yeah, the the dude and the pink. Mike how half Halter Shirt WHO BOB ALRIGHT CENTER? St Hill without even like he, there was no pause. It was just like arms can hit this hill my my. Daughter's gone out with a guy that builds all the stuff at four seasons. He's a pro skateboarder to any skated the wall. He skated the whole thing. But of course my daughter doesn't. Hang out with me and in social dancing. Cool his hot, she says. Then they go do their own thing. You might have seen that guy. was He doing some pretty crazy like I? Kind of stay away from me, but that's yeah. I was impressed by the skateboard. My daughter likes bikes enough that she actually be willing to ride somewhere in. Stay away from me. I'd be off power tour. My daughter likes bikes, but they're all fixed gears. I forced her to get a geared mountain bike. She races. Track Lacrosse you know it's all fic- like you need more than four or five years. I don't. Again in more than four years. Right on. So I can say that. Yeah, she. She's actually a big fan of the show. Last weekend we did the. kind of Milwaukee bike. Naga. Naga role ride, it was basically a scavenger hunt statue statue hunt, so it wasn't a group ride. You went out on your own kind of hunted down sketchy statues in Milwaukee. I don't think we've found any confederate ones. You have pretty. Mandy I saw a bunch of facebook images and stuff and found a bunch of young guy. The guy that was good. I never knew had a Ghandi until. I. Think the there is a controversial and you can't really say anything about. Leif son of Eric, that was not even here. That was on this continent, but not in Milwaukee Right. Solomon Juneau Yeah. Arrest US be Woolcott. Lead Oh. What's what's the saying on there? We read it. Yeah I know was just lead A. What was the word? It was like not perfect, but somewhere along there. Anyway So yes, statues all over the. Do Show Cesar travelers. I didn't see that one on your pictures, but I don't think we did Cesar Chavez. About the Nice thing Blah we did I. Think about the Cesar Chavez. Fixer statue is is he's walking with one hand like you know like your hands, go back, and forth on you walk, and so one hand is just the right height to put your hand bars under, so you can set your bike on his interest and. If you don't have tall handled. That seems better than taking your bike and sticking it on. Hands which obviously the? So this is a Hertie, beer. Bullets let's darn. Let's talk, let's. We're already I mean. It's early in the show, but we're already at the top of the hill. Was a short we. Show this media downhill. Double Very. Might be a double. Hillary number could be Dave Dave brought this. Maybe our first of to show beers, which is something from a local you debuted. It's for my neighborhood Brew Pub venture brewing they their own coffee make their own beer, and it is a bobby Baena double Ip a today, not on the day the shows released, but on Wednesday, when record is Bobby Bonilla Day. Because today's the day. He gets his one point nine million dollar paycheck from the mets every year post. Now some Bernie. madoff weird freaking deal. The mets cooked up with him. How long does he get that for? Life is in perpetuity. But, it's a long time, so he I think the deal was like his contract was. They ended his. You know they got rid of them, and they still owed him five point nine million and they said tell you what if. WE'RE NOT GONNA pay for ten years, and then when we do will pay a one point nine million for fifteen years or twenty. And bladder take the six million invested with Bernie Madoff. Wine! Double Search. For the Matt worked out where the. Instead of his five point nine million. He time the can't. He gets twenty nine point eight million He gets out of the deal and I'm not sure what the mets enough to feed the family anything so. Right, but it's a it's A. It's a double Ip. A with Sabra mosaic and strata hops, and it's nine point five instead initial flavor that it's like almost like banana. It's something that back flavor tunes. Burn. Down or or or is it? In there. What is it is not easy? It's it's just not. As you see through a? Milky. That's a good term it's. It's milky leaks. Say Darn big beer have started here by cranky. You almost want to like you know who I might be wrong to say, but you almost WANNA throw a little Guinness on top of it to see what it tastes like. That would be an interesting. I think that would be okay. An interest not much for Guinness Guy all the time, but I could see that going well with this a little. Knock it down, because Guinness is only like orange. Black and Tan yeah black and be like yellowish, Brown and Arcane. But it's not, it's. It's tasted his own. But it's it's you're not gonNA have a six pack, yeah! Thank. You just has an interesting aroma. One year kind of breathing it in Europe as you're taking it in. It's it's got a pretty fruity smell to it, but it doesn't flavor fruity at all. So, is that only available? SIGHTSEE! Releases they just opened. For actual you know seating is limited seating and outside and so they've only been doing hands during the shutdown Four packs of sixteen Alan Spears and I asked them. They said they actually have sold more beer. During the pandemic and they did when they were open, but their margins are lower on on a Nixon canning. Beer saw especially. If you don't own, your can line, you're paying. They bought their own candidate. So. This is a so four beers for them. They're not inexpensive for packs. Four beers usually like fifteen or eighteen hours. Like skis right around the head, so is fourteen at day. But if you figure one of these would be six bucks. At our. The if you're drinking at five or six bucks if you're drinking a pint at the at the brew pub, then Black Husky. For you. WHICH IS PRETTY NEAT? These guys were not doing growers. Just doing there, is they they couldn't. They don't tiny so. They can't do the volume. Oh, hey. We got a phone call. Hey, hey, hey, Hey! Color welcomed the radio program. What do we have on the line? Great big. Jason How's it going. On! The road yeah. I saw some some post that you were. Back in Minnesota and negative. Then you all in for a long time and I Yeah and I was in your own i. flew on some planes and. I figured I should get tested. And again that native. Jeb Congratulations. Well. Now I'm in Maryland. Meryl Errol Meryl. That's where my boots were made. And I'm really on on Friday morning and heading south of the Mississippi River ice excellent. Are you GonNa? Stop at Sawmill, brewing. Company in Merrill while you're there. Yeah I saw value very well I mean I I'm not I'm not GONNA go. That much money. But I'm. I'm having I'm having. The car at. The next capital Ramon list, low. On and has had. They're doing so. I'll. Great she. Cricketing craggy didn't. Have a new Email. That ad that The ads broke and I selling the street in Keokuk Iowa. and. But. That The she's been breaking a little quickie, crackly crooked crackly I'm like what the Hell is that. I'm not sure what it is. But It seems every other day things that will. Be In. I! Don't I really don't know what the deal. Maybe you should take that day off. Work what I'm saying is is that it only cliques in class when I'm on the bike. I put it upside down in. A wheel then everything and like. Only Griffin class when I'm on the bike, so. Glad without anything in the basket. Without a basket at all. You need is. You need a ride along mechanic with you. I suppose. Adding Support Team. Which one have you? BEEN AND I like Bismarck. It's actually a nice little town it mark. But I mean I'm sure I'm sure it's awesome I can't wait to see it. But at the same time right around quickey, creaky cranky, M. Okay I'm I'm not I'm not concerned. Whether a lot more storms than that so far so great! It doesn't. Sound like. is GONNA hurt. It doesn't hurt at all. Well I mean. Quick Great Great Greg Click. Click Click when I'm when I'm Ryan. We're not riding the bike. That's all. You could just roll up a bike shop and Wasser or something and ask them to just give it a listen. There's probably Schwinn dealer. An old Schwinn dealer. I can't remember although bike shops all right. We're. Doing says hey you. All right, big sexy. WE'RE GONNA. Keep going on the show, but maybe we'll catch up with you and you do shows. I'll I'll call in everywhere within say over I'm at sounds. Good Dude, right on. A right Rod, save five minutes with big sexy. Brother Robert Down he relied. Right on, so you guys all no big. He's riding his tricycle. Heather across the country seeing every state capital. At least what kind of shifting. You got in here in this averick. Tony just noticed the I. Just because I looked down and I'm like women that don't you just notice the new the new minute? Wyatt temporarily my new wide anyway. That's your box nine. The new nine speed version of the box shifter set with that's. Eleven to fifty. Fifty in a nine speed, yeah, well, you know. The the bottom gears are pretty close together where? The top gears are a big jump, but really wants your. Bela Bela Pretty Hard, so a nine eleven fifty. That's. A look at the size chain. Fit a regular driver. Hits regular eleven speed hubs out instantly every time they come on. Going fast like Holy Shit, the chain is like way stronger than any twelve speed change because it's still a speed chain. But you get the the full range. You Know Toby Toby Henderson's the box, guy and I think he went with eleven speed awhile back and I think he had an IP problem and decided that they'd already been making a seven speed for downhill. That was super bomb proof and he's like well. Let's make nine speed that super bulletproof, which so far I mean. It's only been on there for a week, but I I'm I'm impressed with it. It's not very expensive. Yeah, that's gets his. It's like Eagle Annex SX. It's like the lower end Schramm pricing, but I would call it more of a middle of the. Of the grade quality on the really when you go up to their super high zoot twice as expensive on the only thing you do as save a couple hundred grams on the rear cassette. Because, they make it more. You know machine on lady if you really need your fat bike to be another one hundred grams lighter, whatever it is. You might spend the extra two hundred and twenty bucks, but otherwise maybe not could I might add to my house. That's where you've. You said you were just working on some dual piston girls at. The ended up on there. Those are the Basic Mt Thirties. I'm pretty impressed with them and I. Think they kind of set it up as an e bike break, and they I think they make a version with a cutoff even but. I'm back to mega as again for now. They've just still with. Tiny. Company. Fraud is Is His bike packing Bikindi Lincoln, the the the. Hose Hoes. Oh, I put A. Taller Dam on it and Jones bars and the old straight bar it was the length was good for the. Traditional Mountain set up that I had it with before because it was my. Regular Mountain bike and when I got the fuel EAC side. Relegated this to bike backing and it's an unbelievable packing bike. stripped and then I added some braise on to it as well and built at Rear Rack I. Think I talked about that earlier. Yeah, we've seen some. It's earlier shows very purpose built now and It's it's super. Dial the exit super dialed and then the other thing that I'm really happy about is so I love I've got Selah Anatomic. Saddles on like all my bikes, I. I think they're like a big raise the greatest saddle in the world right most comfortable ever you never have any pain, but but they are a little wide for mountain, biking and stuff like that. They're hard to slip behind. You know you can do it, but it's agree one. Hundred and twenty eight percent saw I got a really nice inexpensive twenty seven to drop riposte from Peon, W, and and it solves that whole freaking. Out of the way, and it was not an explicit you post, and it's twenty seven to there aren't that many people that make twenty seven to? That is odd yeah. They could be a market there for sally if they wanted to. The condor mountain bikes all right. They could do that. Yeah, so did you go with just a straight dropper or their coast, which has the forty millimeters of just a little? They. Don't do that in the twenty-seven I I. It's going on my Shumba I. Just have I. Haven't would like it happens. And you can drop. It has forty millimeters of new travel, and then you can drop it. If they had twenty seven to version I would've got that. Dance I I. It just that you know I. I don't know maybe maybe you all don't have this problem, but I may have too many bikes. And I just haven't gotten to that. Set up yet because that's where the same thing with the bars I was talking about before, but I'm super happy with the pro taper twenty degrees. Sweep back ones now. Yeah everybody seems to be. The most of us are. Writing fairly swept bars now for especially for bite packing for sure yeah. The John. Jones bars on this I've looking at the Maloka bars. Has Little little bit more spacing in between a bar, but but yeah that that big sweep is is really comfy for for urban writing, and for for bike packing I think it's really come probably notice Te'o Wolf Tooth Super Blinken on their to. All the purple. Yeah, I'm back to being Mr Purple again. We who might. As over, but we're back to purple again. I DIDN'T WANNA. Be kicked out of Dave ones phone. 'cause I missed her purple and his phone. From. One thousand nine, hundred, nine or something. But I couldn't have been whenever Ohana. Whenever. The movie came out. And I was purple before that. So you know Mr Pebbles on another job well, my bike has been performing. Amazingly. I've taken now on three pretty solid tours, a couple of over three hundred miles and then. This last one was three three hundred like almost on the on the no always and I so we rode. It was organized by guy. Shane hits from a he runs north central Like packing on Facebook, is that what it is or is it gravel north central gravel? It's north central gravel. On on facebook and He came up north central. Wisconsin. Gravel North Central. Wisconsin gravel is the page, so he came on early again rides, and and and then started doing a lot of similar route development in where he around where he lives, which is Wasser area, which has a lot of gravel very quickly outside, Wausau and then he rides also in you know the Sharma Nicolay and Nicolay Roche forests up there, so he put together this route from Wausau'd waters meet three hundred miles off gravel, and invited a handful of people in about a dozen, showed up and we went in. It was five days of amazingness so thanks to thanks to Shane and all the Wassall folks for Lebanon which Shane is it Shane Shane hits. Oh there is also a shane steward on the ride who wrote a Milwaukee single speed. On the ride and lit up a cigarette every time he got off his bike so where those guys. Are Those guys. and He. was definitely way faster than. Say. Those posters didn't lie back in the old days at the Tour de France when they were at the bottom of the time sneaking their cigarettes. Yeah, so North Central Wisconsin Ravel I'll I'll. I'll give you. That not will put that in there. But I wrote myself a newt. Yeah, I'm sell. Most of the people on the ride were from Wausau. Stevens point sort of area. and. I have to say so. The ride was amazing. It was a really great route. And a great little stops along away, but what really impressed me was just the amount of work that the folks around Wassaw and Harrison. Hills and rhinelander and all that are are putting into the trails. There is everywhere we went. There was single track. There was single track all the way along the route and and good stuff. You know really really great. Trails that they're currently working on all the time you know so. I think that area is is probably as good a mountain bike riding as the Cambe area. It's just perhaps because there's like sorta C walk and the guys up further north from them. It's like several different group. It's not it's not quite as connected, but yeah. There's any didn't maybe it wasn't as big of a network before, but they've put so much work into those trails lately that there's just absolutely amazing writing in. It's very different than the camera riding. There's I. Don't know what it is with I have to look this up and figure out what the geology of the area is, but There's all these giant like boulders in all like a fifteen. You'll be right along then. There's just like a fifteen foot tall boulder John on the ground, and so they they build onto those. They piled dirt up and you get to ride over a fifteen foot tall boulder. You know sounds like like North Shana there to up and Roche. Big Nicolay Roche. However, however, glaciers moved those things or what they did, but I haven't looked into the geology of the area that we wrote through, but it was, it was really great, and then another thing that checklist and things I've wanted to do in my life here in Wisconsin that I I we. We went to Lactic Desert the the headwaters of the Wisconsin River. We rode past that so I I sorta check that off. My big sexy was gonna step across the Mississippi it's. True. To not too far from now I don't know how you doing. Well. You just go. Where comes out of the ground and you? Step across. The quit works. That's how it works. Well. River has to start somewhere. This. where? Lack desert or or that starts There's like a little damn thing and like there's a lake that it comes out of like you. Step across it. You know probably in the old days you could pull vault across. They built a dam of all to cross it, but it used to be a rat across Milwaukee River. We can when. Called while that too many times. Hey. Here's something fun. SPD's sandals are back. That's Oh. Fan That's not fun. They're back. Then so that the Russki so stoked. I thought he was going to die. The thing that I saw was saying. You know new old stock. SPD's sandals are going for like nine hundred dollars China shop, right. Do you have any I had some inboxes? We'd be all rich right now. So they came out with the SPD's Sandal. Shimono not just some other twenty year anniversary. What's that other shoe company that Fly by night shoe company Oh there's. The I. Don't know why I can't think of their name everybody. Kean Kean Keady. Made them for awhile osias PD sandals. Nine hundred dollars for? They were. They might not anyone that pays nine hundred dollars. I don't WanNa. Ride bikes with them. Okay so move. You know what people pay all old money. If they probably have old money, otherwise, they wouldn't spend new money because if you made your own money, you're not stupid spending. But skateboard stuff. Oh, yeah, that's. I had some old road riders from Nineteen seventy-nine whenever. Five hundred bucks. Some guy over Sweden or Norway or somewhere same thing with? Gordon Smith fiber flex deck that was barely used. Pristine. I it was somewhere close to six hundred dollars I remember. It's been a little bit since I sold them, but it just reminded me that my buddy Ivan from Fort Collins who grew up here, but moved out there. Many years ago was in town, and who are talking about old skateboard days. We're doing that in the I think. I started in seventy. Five met him around that time and then got you that. Yeah. I started when I was one. Seventy seven, seventy, eight, whatever and there and I and I was the only guy with a camera back in the olden times when you had film you know had used my paper out money to buy at that point, a Nikon FM and he found some old photos that I took at some of our various spots, and we're like man that looks like thrasher magazine. Kinda only not quite as good because you know, but it was Milwaukee in seventy, seven seven I know it was after. After the talking heads, album came out in seventy, seven, seventy or seventy nine. But Moses the. Point here is it's amazing. What people pay for old stuff that they're nostalgic about right? Because now they have money and it doesn't really matter to them our true that. He restoring would like to know what the next one is. We can just start buying it now. Hitting big piles of it up in the warehouse, and then like I thought beanie babies maybe. Apparently not though hopefully. Those don't make another comeback well. There's get a box in the building nut factory. That has all that crazy stuff that he's been. Remember the guy we went and saw that. Has the like all the Freddy Kruger stuff? That's like Oh. Yeah, Yeah Yeah. Stuff in there. That's that's like a movie movie Megan's. pinball machines and stuff like that was Brian Yep. I'm gonNA bring the bell again, so Tony can tell you about our second beer. Which I'M GONNA go get one. From. My. Second Hill we have hit the second hill and this hill is elision. Fields Contact Hayes. Really say about this the day the world stood still. And elision brewed a hazy Ip. Rules were broken. Bring you contact pays. A tangled chemistry of mild haze, low bitterness and explosion of hops Aroma. Someone's knocking at her door. Bursts of bright raspberry currents, citrus guava in passion, fruit with a slate floral notes, not going to go any further folks because that's just frightening. Anyway, it's A. It's a pretty tasty beer That's that's for sure. What are we doing? It is definitely helpful. Holly type thing six percent. It's a it's a half step down from the F. Benia, but it's in the same it's. It's in the same arena right? Yeah, it's it's tasty doesn't have quite the burn at the back of your throat that the Baena has, but it's got a little one that right. I hear that at all that hoppy kind of sites. It's good I'm still finishing my money to here. Because it's a slow drinking beer. It's Stacey. It's got some cinnamon or something sitting at my tongue. Speak so speaking of beer so on our trip up. We stopped at. First stop was an hour hour outside of our our first camp night. There was like a bar that the organizer WHO's not a big far is not a beer. Drinker is more of bike guy family guide as a lot, so he looked as a looked a little sketchy tearing looked, bowls and get. You're not sure if we want to go there and three of us that are. Sort of going wait, there's a bar like less than a mile off of our out, and we're only like, and we're close to our final. We're going there, so so we went. We walked in, and they had fifteen amazing craft beers on tap on tap, and they were making their own homemade pizzas with their own homemade sauce every Christ. The thirsty bear. A north east of straight north of anti go about thirty miles or so. Yeah, we were like, and it was on a lake and had a patio overlooking lake she's. Like Damn. This GAL is awesome. Awesome and then one of the other places we went to, we had to go. There called skinny, Dave's and It was tell me day was a big fat dude using that skinny anymore ice, but it was. It was a pretty tall guy, but It was happy hour and he had terrapin and a handful other good. Craft Beers on tap as well as his own homemade margarita mix on tap. I think you've been on a drink. Margarita two dollar fifty dollar fifty for a tap. Margarita dollar for TAP Beers. CHEESE HAPPY OUTBACK! Happy Hour, look! Back because there's no way could leave that place. Happy Hour in northern Wisconsin. She's and I have returned easy. Welcome back, Mellish Mayton. Go House eight time doing. On another bike shop right down the street. Go early so. Say when I wrote over to the other you know. I gotta say I mean we do what we do here but if you're in the area and you want to do something a little different than what we do, eight tonnes been. He was the first bike shop in river west. At least in modern. And, he does a great job especially on. Shit pedestrian. Bike and you're gonNA. Get role and hidden. I mean we were just briefly? He was looking for a wheel for a bike. He was doing and wondered if we had it here and I'm like yet. We've been pretty much out of everything in trying to build everything we can so. It's A. It's kind of a good I'm in a good position because we're working by appointment. And if it's something that I can't do I've been referring people to shops all over because they're better at that thing than we are and we do what we do and. Everybody basically just gets long. In fact, eighteen wants to be on the show so. Sweet, you to fisting beers agree. I am taking a break from the. And just trying to shift. The. I always say this wrong. Alishan elision elision. Burn contact Buzz Hayes. So right on well I, Dave. Did we cover what you wanted to cover? Can we talked about most of it? I. Just reiterate that if folks are looking for places to ride mountain bikes that the whole Wausau you know North Wasa. Nicolay Roche, and they're just doing so much great work up. They're expanding trails, Bill, Jack Lake Jack Lake is an amazing county campground. It's ridiculous and you can camp there. There's a Lake Jack Lake. Jack Lake and mazing trails, and you will not be bored for a solid weekend of riding, and here's what gets me about. Wausau is asked my son what he wants to do this summer. He goes I want to go back to Sylvan. Hills are all right. They've got silman of course, and that's in Wasa and I'm like, but we haven't even done the ringling trails. Yeah, we haven't done. He's raced race at nine mile. which for the race I think was okay. I find nine mile confusing, but maybe that's because I. don't go there enough. Well they've. been around forever and and it used to be super old school, and it's been upgraded yeah. I was there last last summer, and it was much different than the olden times. There's there's like. Fast permed hills that you can just rail and stuff like that at nine mile now and but Sylvan. Yes, Sylvan's amazing. And I can only gravity park I can only ride two of the four. So can he right now, but he's also only fifteen years old and I assume that bones Nin-. Some. Stuff that I would I will not do anymore. I mean I've crashed twice in the last two weeks I. DON'T WANNA crash anymore this year I'm. GonNa run into by a guy, and and a fork broke on a bike, so oh, yeah, that was good. I'm done with crashing. Thank you very much. I think so also, but so anyway I that I'll just put in my final word for go to Freakin. Wausau Harrison Hills Nicolay, Roche and Ryder Mountain bike because it's, it's amazing up there one hundred twenty eight percent bake sexy. All right everybody and this is what it sounds like when we say bye, bye bye! Thanks.

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Episode 75: We Call Us Yang

They Call Us Bruce

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Episode 75: We Call Us Yang

"Move Hello and welcome to another edition of they call us. Bruce unfiltered a conversation about what's happening in Asia America. I and I'm Jeff Yang and we are back from another little hiatus. Check in it's you you know these things happen right. We have stuff going on. You've got other stuff going on and then like weeks turned two weeks and more weeks and and here we are but we got a lot to talk about a lot of it. I feel like has to do with like Yang Gang adjacent people. Is that true. This is this week in yea ANA. Yes indeed so I'm going to start. Actually we'll do this in the format of our usual kind of good bad devotee f the good bad jeff if young them. Maybe it's just you and me here today. It is and our intrepid producer nick so yes. When we yeah we can hang onto our unusual art little game roose? Yes the good so we can call it the good the bad and the W. T. F. of gang this week in the end of this weekend. Yang yes and we almost had actually Jenny right. Yes we we did try to blast very last minute jenny our good friend comedian. Jerry Yang but timing didn't really work out so shadow to our show Pal Jenny and tell the lovely we'll get a for a next next the next segment and Yang Yes yes. This should be like an ongoing thing all right well so part of the reason why I and my son Hudson Yang who was on the boat. We'll just get that out of the where the running joke thing are busy is because we actually we we were on TV I mean for that's like normal right for me a little less normal but the reason why it's kind of what was super not normal and that's because we were just on family few yes liberally celebrity value. I am not the celebrity but we yeah we we were on their Steve Harvey Very Gracious. had a lot of fun going up against Sky Jackson of Jesse and bunked lovely lovely lady young lady. I've no idea who that is. You have a young daughter will learn what channel stars like but okay so quick recaptured. We're actually playing for east west players okay right because this is Larry source for charity and we we actually sleet despoilers right. We won ten K. for them. What would we we did okay but but honestly should've one more and this is so the format is family feud. we went through the questions pretty did well we were we were lucky and did well. There are a couple of kind of head shaking moments as you might guess a lot of income from me. One of the questions was you know what is it that Santa experienced that led him to. Never WanNa have children and I was like over thinking and said things like you know wh- or what has Santa Experience in the past rather that led him to never want to have children and I said something like kids teasing his reindeer or eating cookies you know those are two answers and they're both like whatever it was stuff like punching him in the fix. Wow Mall Santa that kind of thing. I think they were thinking Mall Center. I was thinking I was thinking like like the real recent who does exist. I was GONNA say as nineteen year old. We don't want it. We don't WanNa ruin a guy yeah but the the fact is we we won the normal round and then we actually got to you know the the final kind of speed round and this is where like we came so close to winning. I think it would have been twenty five thousand dollars for each players. Yeah we ended up at one hundred eighty. Four points was Hudson and his cousin Laurie and the thing that I I'm going to hold this right. The reason why we didn't get it was because of regional dialect right so so Steve Harvey has like a little bit of a southern accent right little yeah okay I mean you know plays it right yeah and so the the question that Hudson got or the one of the question was things you fill with sand right right but Steve Harvey pronounced press things things you feel with sand yeah right and Hudson's like things you feel with sand so his ass was rocks zero points and a- and if you'd known that it was Phil Not feel then he said he would have said bucket or Pail and that would have totally been fifteen points sort east west players so to me. That's grounds for like quotas. There's money involved actual game. People were playing for money and so was there like a like. Raising issues like a reset like there was a raised. The issue was raised. Okay who let Lori Redo it. She's do the second round because she does second round and but they couldn't do it for Hudson because Hudson had it was too late a- and the reason why they figured out that we we were not getting it we northeasterner Asian. Americans were not getting was because her answer I think was was his toes and thank you phil toes and she's like feel of sand like and then and then like Oh you know give it another chance to fill and so there you have it yeah feel you. I've never heard that we've okay yes so so that we have. You still got some money for he still we got ten K. for easily players and what was the other charity the other charity I don't know what Scott Jackson was due for actually but it was another I mean you know all the charities and being pretty it was like Adam rippon and Terry Bradshaw their families were before US Terry was doing it for. I don't know what he's doing it for. I actually can't remember what Adam Adam run on. was doing it for for glad okay right so anyway. This is okay so this is the longest discussion overhead and he's in my life about family. Few the show family feud have you. You've never been on a game show right. Have No. I HAVE NOT HAVE I know I've not. That's a weird thing to not. No not to not remember we. Is this your first time. He's brought up on the show before on family feud. No not family viewed I. I've been on who wants to be millionaire really yes. Yes I'm not a millionaire but you can look it up yeah yeah. It's actually there's a like a Wiki or something like for fans of who wants to be care. I mean I did. I did pretty well. I'll say that but it wasn't it wasn't enough like that could quit anytime but you know. I see the reason why I was like because I've watched so many many game shows that I always like if I always if I if I always spinning the wheel like put myself in that projected yourself. I I do pretty well the thing I so I mentioned this because I'm going to raise an issue about family feud that I've always hated about that. Show is that you know it's family feud and so you bring you play with the members of your family but nothing but the game play itself has anything to do with your family you could be just put together with a bunch which of radios and then it's all about matching your certain answers to these surveys to the audience what other family members satisfied that that was. Kinda like family component. Where how well do you know that kind of an Asian American show be called extended family and actually about be about a feud with your extended family like porn all the T- on the exactly say I just looked up the winnings damn missile right. I won't say it on air but it's Google go gaining. I'll I'll just say you know I had good life then. It's not surprise me at all that you did well on Jay. It was actually an easier show to do well on than than family feud frankly. If you had look we haven't had talked to Arthur. Chu Do one of these days about his jeopardy jeopardy winnings. Yeah Yeah Yeah Anyway there. Are there are a lot of Asian American game show contestants who have have who have done better than I have in my career game showing Dow was almost someone actually but turns out he was too good. It was a ringer actually all right. Well well good. That was good. That was my and let's talk about what else is good in the world of gang. That's why we have been to this. It's practically the reason why we convened tonight. Yes so last week Saturday Saturday night live announced its new cast members for three new cast members for the for the new season and one of them is comedian and writer Bowen Yang right a He's a mainstay of the New York comedy scene. He's Queer. He's he's kind of famous for these kind of built this cult following these lip sync videos. He does until the end brilliant. You know he's done what a random priestly from from the devil wears Prada. He's this really funny one of Cardi B. Just take the audio from these performances and then just you know just just do a perfect sync up of these of these performances end. It's it's it's hilarious. It's something that he made his own. Yeah and what I think is really amazing about it. Is that when those things went. Viral on twitter is when he kind of became a thing right so he's like kind of one of the he's a he's a twitter created I mean superstar superstar this point. Oh yeah right I mean I mean addition to being being actual comedian doing the scene and and then last selenium Gig as a writer on SNL yes so is also on one like the skits or whatever is like Kim Jong Il Kim Jong position to be to be hoisted up and be featured player on the cast. It was blowing a amongst Asian. Americans was born yeah US position to do well. I I mean there's so much resistance on that showed actually put putting an Asian American right on the cast right. This is a long time so yeah and he actually it turns out. He is the first person of Chinese descent right to be on the cast right there have been there actually have been other Asian American members. Fred is he stars thunders Japanese atrocities. That's CR- episode of I should do you. Who are you like bloodline or someone or not line loveless. It's like who do you. Who Do you think you are. Who you think you're yeah who the hell yeah no that show is It's the one that checks people's People's genealogy and like that show is that he's episode of the trip because roots finding your roots with with a skip gates hairless yeah yeah yeah okay but that one's a trip because his whole life he thought he was he was a quarter Javanese America or something and then and then he found that he was actually Korean but Japanese Korean or Korean court like his his grandfather Korean Japan had had a career career on the stage in Japan had Japanese stage team actually looking into the history. He's actually create this is also during the Occupation Korea. Japan would probably say they're all Japanese. No let's not go crazy story though yeah and then then actually BEF- before Rob Schneider Filipino yeah and has a has acknowledged and embraced that in various ways not not not necessarily somebody these days or you know we're raising the flag hi aggressively claiming but yeah so so nevertheless this is a milestone. Boeing Yang is the first Asian Casper that no one is going to be like oh he he's Asian Asian ladies clearly like like fito typically Asian right and last name Yeah Yeah Yeah I mean. This is kind of the running theme of this episode. At this point or Yang Yeah young passing. I will say speaking of Yang's right. I am Kinda wondering to what degree the the rise the arrival of you will Andrew Yang had anything to do with them deciding to impart anyway kind of like say you know we probably need somebody to play Asian. People roll like regularly now. I joked about twitter. I was like in the year twenty nineteen not that this would have stopped them before honestly because they've had I mean all manner of people playing like Weird Asians but I feel like this is Andrew. Yang thing might be happening enough that they need to address this on on and and have an actual person twenty nineteen of Asian descent playing angry addict. I one hundred percent predict what the sketch gadgets can be. It's GonNa be a game show. Andrea giving out two thousand dollars a month to lucky people whatever we're just kind of what he's doing yeah actually yeah picking ten people to watch the debate. I heard that's what he and and so forth worth. All these things connect connect back. He actually got into trouble for making a joke. I think pretty innocuous joke like some people like saying. It was kind of stereotypical that he said Oh. I'm Asian therefore I know a lot of doctors yeah yeah but I mean he said I mean. He's a whole strain of his campaign is also like Asian. I'm good at math yeah yeah. He's leaned into stereotypes. Yeah you know what I actually find that kind of refreshing on some level because part of part of we joke about it ourselves right part of D- limiting the energy and things is to kind of recover them and turn them into humor instead of into into malice right and and yet I mean these are times when those things can be misused used stereotypes in particular and and language right and the the kind of the bad part right of the arrival of Bone Yang gang is that he wasn't the only one to be named the cast yeah so we we did too good at this is the OBAMAS are bad yeah. Let's go to the bad about yen but we're still going strong. It's an exciting time of Asian Americans. They're there are more movies. TV shows books and music reflecting us than ever but all of these represent just a small slice of Asian American culture experiences. So what do we do. Tell more slices. 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What the fuck have I got my shot over here bag those like she's probably pretty good at whatever she's she amazing actually honestly just on she has she does impression really good impressions and and I I think actually she kind of became famous on instagram again working calm. I Ha- well well yeah. They always need not great impressionist. Yes another social media kind of rival right. Okay so Shane Gillis thing. I've I've never like whatever okay he he like the second. This is announced someone you know go just goes to his previous work and digs up as I quote unquote digs up. you know this interview this podcast on basically he's own pocket Mike and the secret podcast right he says also stuff. They just dig up. He digs up comments from his own podcast. basically Talking Shit Shit about Chinese people about Chinatown and in calling Chinese people fucking Chinks yes among other things and then as the day goes on the just start taking up all this just trash stuff. He says yes and this I actually think this is where the the the money is right so he's he's kind of one of these comedians. Let's say one of these. White Comedians who feels like comedy is there to excuse essentially running along the edge of insensitivity and offensiveness as a means of I duNno expanding conversation expanding horizons. I mean excuse always is like Oh. We can't do good comedy unless we take risks. That's literally what he said in his so called apology right but the fact is these are the least east risky things to do to mock people collartoo mock women to to make homophobic jokes. There is no risk in that yeah. Literally people been doing that since a third grade but be like time immemorial so there's nothing new. There's nothing risky not even interesting funny about that and yet this guy Shane Gillis us He's done kind of study in this. He he had a he used to have this comedy. Show where people were able to essentially text next things and the texts would appear behind the comic who's performing so there'd be sort of like trash in the comic or or saying saying stuff in the background and that background commentary part of the show and one of the things that they did sort of comment on the commentary right so shame it was like one of the things we realized early on was looking at the things that people found funny based on this right and it's obvious that you can always always Mark Asians. You're never gonNA get hurt you know if you mock Asians or you know Muslim terrorists Muslim extreme extreme you know rat is Islamic radicals but God forbid you say anything about police brutality because no white people don't like that right so he's he's cop out like what that makes white people in these contexts laugh you know and apparently one of those things. Is You know Punching Asians in the face. Look I know what you mean about you. Know Comedians always say you. GotTa take risks and you know this. Is You know this is my ah but I feel like people have always use that as there is little shield right this like Thin Shield I. I'm sorry but communities are not a protected class right. You're allowed to say whatever you want but that doesn't allow you to say what you want and then be and then just absolve you of responsibility for that and the thing that bugs me most is that like in the context of a podcast just because you have a pockets that means you could say shit you want in high apparently. Chris you listen to the comments so you know the question. You know like this isn't even an act. This is a comedy sketch. They're not even they're just talking and so you talk shit and I'm like this is not comedy. This is not absolve you of responsibility for saying fucking. Chinks like I'm sorry but this is a fireball offense and I mean he just got hired if someone if you're in a job in a job interview situation and someone dug up this stuff and I'm I say dug up because this happened just this past abusive timber Jimmy Eighteen less right. It's not like he was like ten years ago but if someone dug that up I you know I'd be like forget it. This is not worth this guy. We should hire this guy you know. He says he's just fucked up shit. All I think also will do things one. I think he probably could have gotten away with it. If he didn't delete his entire podcast the minute he got hired like the announcement came out like after after that he completely purged all the archives basically basically look the Internet does not forget all right. I don't care our podcast. This PODCAST GONNA be around if I if I run. I'm not going to present but if I ever have president president you know I'm sure people will pull this podcast and find ways to be offended and stuff. I say you know whatever I there's. There's nothing that's. I don't think there's anything I've said on on this podcast. We're just in general that I regret in the things I do regret. I've profusely reflected on an apologized for and actually I think that Kinda gets to it right so one of the things which which on the Internet I feel like have ended up having to have a lot of conversation around. Is this this question of like. Oh so is this cancel culture quote unquote right. Is this like you you know when when you make a mistake quote unquote. Are you a race from all history and can never actually hold a job again or something like that. I'm like no you know there are absolutely ways in but you can make huge fuck ups and still recover you know and by learning and growing right by by embracing the fact that you made a mistake in meaning sending it and actually performing acts of redress the people who've been harmed but Shane's actual quote apology the only statement. He's is made so far right. I it's not an apology and it's not an apology is not an apology. Basically it's like if anybody has been. I would be glad to apologize hottest. Anybody who's been offended by this basically and then the whole thing about be risky. Whatever I'm like at first. I was like okay this typical shitty you know I Apologize College. If you're hurt apology then read it closely. It's like this is not an say. He apologized for us if he's willing to extend its voucher for Coupon College College Fund. That's what I call it a lesson. I owe you a hug or no good. This is good for one and honestly the Somebody responded to me on twitter when I was like this is a group on so you know what we should actually demand our politics individually to him and see if he he makes good on that offer 'cause he fucking doc and won't yeah yeah. We're we're sorry we'll be starting to sign up sheet apologize. He wants an apology from Shane Gillis or sign up sheet eight in he'll be it's up to him to deliver the each policy one by one honestly if he personally and uniquely apologizes to every person who's been offended who who asked him for an apology then you know what maybe Maybe it's okay to let him go on but no. I'm like no like I I. I just feel yeah. I just think you know you when you actually do listen back to the tape of him. Actually saying it like first of all he did not during like a stand end a bit which is Kinda understandable where you can kinda weave through basically like that's how a lot of stand up comedians operate like Chris Rock. You Know Eddie Murphy all these people you know the comedy grades they navigate through almost like the taboo and stuff like that and that's kind of part of the joy of it however on comedy podcast. That's not the same as I like. Stand up comedy and if you actually just listened to it sounds like you know it just sounds like hate speech on us if it wasn't even if he wasn't a comedian would be even I would. This even be an issue. You'd be like if this is some regular like some regular dudes podcast. You know like it would be an issue like he is an it sounds if you listen to podcasts not just that episode the other one right. It sounds like you know one of your typical right cutoff fringe not fringe to the Nazi type of thing. We're all they're doing is like saying basically you know women any and of course he uses the F word for gay people and you know He. They're like trashing. People who dared have feelings you know other comedians saying. Oh that pussy because he he dares to actually have emotions wherever whatever it's like just typical shitty you know white all righty kind of off right. Yeah yeah nothing new. If this was some other off some are assholes podcast like it wouldn't be up for debate. We'd just dismiss. We'd be like I mean as racist but it's it's. It's it's like but because it's a comedy now to jump through these hoops of like. Oh but like you know is this Catholic culture because they can't say what I want in the name of quote comedy and Good Art Art and all that stuff and it's like fuck you man. That's what do you like. You're not even trying. Honestly it's also it's a comedy podcast and this is on the podcast Catholic. I guess in a lot of ways they call comedy podcast just because we're not sure more to the point though it's it's like the comedy talking like it's a label on itunes. You know like it's it's not like it's not a wet. It's a sign that you hold there and be like you know enter all Yeehoo leg. You know like know what you're going into like. You can cover so much basis on that like I don't know I just feel like I know I know the taxonomy podcasts close to your heart nick mysteriously though it's just it's bs because it's it if it was structured and if you really put thought into it it would be one thing but just listening to him talk about this shit. It's obvious that it's off-the-peg you know the top of his head not in a good way you know well yes and and so this is the the the next beat on that right. I mean in this whole conversation about whether or not he could ever be allowed to move forward. Yeah you know what if you actually make restitution. Honestly he can have a great career. I think that the smart thing to do would have been to apologize to chloe and to to Boeing for basically fucking up this moment for them and then say you know what I'm I'm going to actually suspend or withdraw from contention for this season of Saint Live because it's more important to me to see the show. Don't do well and my fellow comics do well then to kind of bring this cloud right so that leads me to my question like a multi questions one like what does she do from here but also what are they doing now. What are they. What were they vetting. This is betting situation at all like it doesn't seem it seems very really shallow dive into anybody's passed to come up with this stuff right like was there any vetting at all and then the other part and this is a theory that I've seen advanced like maybe that was this was their intention all along like to bring this guy you know but okay but now now now right as far as I know there has not been a single statement right right or single recording as of this recording yeah in which NBC SNL as we kind of address this he has not been fired yet right and I'm sorry like you think about other people who have been held to the wall for prior statements or or even jokes like you know gardens the galaxy all right. I mean you know the what's his name. The Director of Gardens Ah James Gone Gone Got Suicide Squad old tweets Oh nice tweets which were pretty terrible but they were clearly spoken ingest right still still offensive he did apologize them. He and he didn't try to deny them right. He just I said I was like super terrible and then you know so ah yes but he nevertheless got fired and and kicked off and then you know yard. I guess yeah but part of why he was actually fired was huge campaign. Yeah on on the right to say oh. This guy is all these terrible things you know as vindictive active in horrible and and yet and yet when any of this stuff is said or done from the ray they don't gray area. It's not an issue there crickets yeah they they they literally wanted to to score a notch on the belt right and yet here we are you know in day whatever of Gillis Gate Yeah and and crickets right even worse than his statements like like Dole skit. Oh Yeah I mean I think I saw Rebecca Choson. advanced this theory but like it's Kinda Gross Kasan Yeah yeah the Hollywood reporter more guess on there's pockets but she kind of Vir is that like Gillis represents this kind of comic who or this kind of sentiment that's like who doesn't you know doesn't want to bow down to quote political correctness. I mean like if you look at someone like and then he's the polar opposite someone like Boeing Yang Hang who is Asian American the first asian-american bones like politico police but like I hate that phrase made such an issue take a lot of people made assistant issue the fact that there hasn't really been like you know there's been poultry representation of Asian Americans on Saturday night live cast right wing and then and suddenly that now that we've got it like now that bone young is higher like wow this is like a snl sort of caving to to political correctness and let you know or or just like you know demands for diversity inclusion and then but this Guy Shane Gillis kind of represents that that fuck you to peace the legal correctness and like to sort of balance that out and to be like you know the guy who and so here's what happens now if he does get fired if or or if he he's offered rescinded or whatever it stokes this whole other thing right this is on all levels and it sucks sucks because we can't celebrate sort of bone. Yang's you know hiring because it's books and for its worth Boeing is doing we have really good job just like not commenting talking about other stuff which is all good on him. He should not have to have anything to do with this shit which is like interesting because okay again like diving back into the stuff that that Gallison and his his his cohort talked about on this podcast right so that whole notion of like them being the arbiters what is actually funny right you know because of the last the last man N. standing so to speak who are you know willing to stand up the fact that humorless. Sj ws or something are making comedy. Suck they they did this one episode where they had this whole sort of roster or ranking of of comics and basically saying like. Oh you know yes of course straight. Wait wait a minute. The funniest you know black comics pretty funny to you know but then you go down the ladder and then it's like you know you've got you know black comics Alan and then like George Lopez and then you know Indian comics and then at the very bottom and gay comics and then the very bottom is is white white chick comics. That's the phrase they used their the worst etc and the invoked Alley Wall. They said you know what Allie Wong Alley Wong's funny. She's actually making some Asian chick. Comics are actually funnier than white comic on the bottom right and the reason why why you know that kind of curls my my got on some level. Is You know that specific racialist and kind of identity to find shaping of of comex like is them showing their ass. Yeah it is no longer about the individual comics what they do. It's about like fucking racism and saw Janie and homophobia. They're they're putting everybody bucket. They're using identity politics white identity politics to frame the rest of the world and this happens all the time from that perspective where they decry you know what they would call the politics of victimization or marginalization or identity right and then they will use that they'll impose that from the from the top from their vision of privilege yeah yeah you know as like straight white man and CETERA. I mean look you know. Allie Wong is funny as Hell Nakashima Queen Asian chick comic because she is one of the hardest just working smartest and just literally funniest women on the circuit. Everybody will tell you that right and the thing is. She's an Asian woman right. The Asian womanhood does not define comedy but her communist is expansive and is more than capable of representing that as part of her and I think that's kind of like that's really what what college should be about not denominated by entities but you know we we should not neither be ashamed of identities nor should you know in the context of local political correctness quote unquote or not like she does not pull any punches yeah. She marks herself and others. She doesn't such a way that I think it's it's it's both smart and Nankai Shade and surprising and she's very very very rarely. I think coca punches down yeah. She always punches up and more to that. She's funny like you know like it starts from there. She's funny yeah well. I I I feel like with calm like a huge like comedian ban and personally comedy Fan Yep. I've spent stand up comedy but in general but you know that's one of my I guess you know pet peeves of. I really love kind of that. Edgy humor. Ask thing not really like you know of course tosh boy no and all that sophomore so of using comedy as a way to address issues that are kind of like you know that you don't bring up in conversation doing it intelligently and you know one of my favorite comics is Andrew Schultz and he really you know uses that where it's like youth rod the hot take like you know where it's almost like so ludicrous and from the you know you explored that idea but it always comes back centre where it's like you know there's a trust between the mutual understanding between the audience and then also the comedian where it's like you know not that we're not taking it seriously but like you know. I it's the suspension of disbelief you know and I think when it comes to like you know the podcast format and stuff like that. That relationship isn't there you know and I I think you know the biggest way. The biggest like evidence for this is if you actually just listen to it you know it it. It doesn't sound like but he's a stand up. It doesn't sound like a piece of you know something that he worked on it. Just sounds like some dude. spouting racist shit which it is it. It is right. I mean I don't. I don't think he's even David claim that it is material per se but the funny thing is that he apparently is now claiming that that that version of himself is a character playing character right yeah retroactively of coordinator actively so yeah you can we see that character and Sarah the big at billy. What do you think of Andrew Young Sandton on the so. I guess we gotTa talk about that. Yeah Yeah I mean look look you know we began this little piece of it. By saying like may part of the reason why Boeing you hang is is being hired because the relevance of Asians in popular for Culture has gone to this point where the need tavern an Asia cast member to to to play that and I think obviously android part of that I mean I I think it'll be great if we actually could have him on the show and we've been trying. We have in the past to have bigger conversations. I feel like you know There are a lot of things. I mean I've known for a long time. I don't agree with you know with some of the things he says and does I do feel however its its groundbreaking that he is there that he's that he exists yeah and it is amazing saying that he has gone so far yeah but some of the things which I have issues with kind of come out and stuff like this where his response ons was pretty much to extend this you know sort of like preemptive forgiveness because here's the thing yeah so. Gillis didn't stop with those acts of petty and Shitty Racism. He actually also show us the the the the word Chink in reference actually to Andrew Yang right okay. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah he sang for whatever reason a Jew Chink I mean what I don't yet that and so end Henry actually responded to that by saying I like comedy but I don't like cheap shots but then apparently he went unpack and listen to some of his stuff and and basically you know had this long tweet thread about saying I believe John. You know that Shankill's was not militias. He's still an evolving unformed comic. You know I I WANNA. Give him basically so you know best. you know. I extend the opportunity to have a conversation and I do nothing should be fired and eh forgive him. In advance and I was like God please don't and and he also talked about how the word Chink is or other Asians. You know to to our point you know that Asians often are subject to racism in part because it's so easy for us you know I it's like it's worse for us somehow because because it's perceived that's easy to to target us and we don't respond right so I have two points on that one is he he actually kind of did a little comparing of Asians to African. Americans and I feel like that's always a bad move yeah. Let's bad take. It's a it's a it's a badge for bad that EH K. I I saw a Swiss on twitter a lot this weekend and just like don't you go there. You're not have to go there. You know so so you you. WanNa react yeah I mean I was entire like right here but that specific tweet is you know it's also the case is that Anti Asian racism particularly of by virulent virulent Jesus because it somehow considered more acceptable if Shane had used use the N. word the treatment will likely be immediate clear man. Don't don't do that look. Here's the thing you're running for the presidency number one you know like you gotta be reflective and thoughtful about the people represented the issues you're representing and the a deeper and broader history of who we are especially you know in in on the left if you will right. I mean you know the entirety of of of both the past the present and the future of the Democratic Party rests on in many ways the hard work the sweat blood and tears that after Americans have shed to to build a foundation of civil rights and US and we as Asian asian-americans I mean you know we've been a part of that history but we have benefited from it so extensively right and to even attempt to compare the the kinds of things that we have gone through to like a population that has been enslaved in in this country and subjected to the very worst continuing to this day the very worst kinds of of oppression abuse and institutional aw marginalization is is it in it yeah. It's just not there's no re. There's no reason or are or value in comparing these oppressions you know what I mean and because it's just not even close to the same level or like the same kind kind of We can't have that conversation. You know about like saying who's who's headed worse like you know what I mean like it. No good comes of that. I often nothing good ever just different circles like you know I mean the tomb struggles will but their struggles that are as they are connected. They're connected because we are building on the foundation for Americans have laid made of of equality in this country for all of us were not white basically within and then on top of that but the positioning and as if this had been the N. Word Yeah the the you know the reaction would have been swift and there would have been just an just like I'm sorry but like you cannot compare sort of like the the oppression and the violence and everything that you know sort of the black community has been through and then try to compare that like well the the C word like we you know like we just don't we we're just not there yet you know and and as if as if oppression is it's worse off for us because people did speak up on our behalf in that like you know because some of the Chink you know I look look bottom line is this andrew is a good guy and a smart guy right you know separating out the politics when person I genuinely have only ever known him as somebody who has tried his best to reach out to connect and and to to be somebody who expresses empathy to other people right but that's kind of one of the pitfalls also running for office and being somebody who has as as kind of you know human normal human if you will not not somebody who was carved out of a block of political ice right as as some candidates have been you sometimes we'll in the age of twitter find on yourself getting over your skis and saying things that probably does not do not fully judged the the room and now the room but history and the context of where speaking right right. I I also WanNa address something else. Could I say so. This is where you and I think we're our our diverge. 'cause I don't know Andrew I we have a we have a lot of a beautiful friends. You've known I've never met him before. I don't know him. I never knew who he was until he started running for president honestly but like all this stuff that has happened in my mind based on the information. I've had and all the performance the debase like his his. He has tumbled in my sort of esteem like yeah I don't like. I don't know much about him but like I haven't really. I appreciated that he was there. He's been in the mix that he's been a candidate and his ideas a lot. We're like okay whatever a lot of them are like Oh. That's a good one and then a lot of them are like sorry but I'm appreciative as their ear appreciate it. He's like trying to like you know he's one of these guys who are kind of like an out of the box problem solver and then like you know he's he's dressing that like the number really pays attention attention to. I I that said you know stuff like this for me. I'm like I can't. I can't get behind someone who will. I'll say this you know and you know you're more forgiving of the stuff. He said regarding sort of like leaning into these stereotypes. I'm not forgiving your understanding outstanding of it but only because I again I know him. As a person you know and that's the thing it's like we ultimately don't really we. We can't just simply elect people because they're nice guys who look like us or they look at yeah. Exactly I mean there's there's such a deep well of of imminent catastrophe in this country and man. I'm I'm like a for for him for me to me him saying stuff like I'm Asian. I'm good at math. I and I know he means it as joe as a allusion to him trying to come up with just smarter solutions especially in comparison to the guy who's currently in office and I know but his line about the doctors about a doctor's like not even necessary area and then to me. It's him playing into look man. I know I look like this but you need to be afraid of me. Yeah it's him so that literally is the second point right which is like this whole notion of sort of respectability politics and like the model minority right yeah and I actually feel like the the way the rest thread rolled out actually was I mean it was it was secondary to again that that just in infernal comparison that I see a lot of Asian markets making taking and we just talked about you know sort of that comparison to African Americans. It's unacceptable. We shouldn't do that period right but the second piece is is this like I don't think that we either have the right or the responsibility to to Kinda play this role of absorbing these blows and and giving absolution to folks who have established lengthy records of being like fucked up racists and homophobes and it's not it's like yes I grant you forgive his great and I mean in mercy's great and look look the from the bottom of my heart. I do believe those things are both necessary and valuable in a leader as well as us as people people but it's there's a process that if we are going to be better society we need to actually learn and sometimes that learning comes at the edge of you know of of like consequences for what you do right right. This is somebody who has not apologized who doesn't feel he did anything wrong. Who To this point to this day. He doesn't seem like he has any interest in even acknowledging that what he has done is is wrong and I don't think he will. I think it's going to go down in flames on this. It's been like a you know how many days now for him to it's been. It feels like arrived three weeks but actually it's just been like seventy two hours in this in this like new new cycle reality. If you aren't if you aren't responding in like twenty four hours then you don't you don't give a shit yeah period I and that but that's what bugs me about Andrew Yang's response like Oh shouldn't be fired. I think just sit down and talk about it like it's like it's a difference of or like a guy who just made a mistake. He's a baby comic like China Mark Fucking Baby. Live your your comments on one for you want. The one thing like this is a gig on Saturday night. Live is the most coveted high profile thing you can get in comedy. Do not tell tell me. This is the best that you can come up with right. There's that and if you even if you got another white guy who centralized seems to be shortage of white guys I I don't know but even if it was that I'm sorry but you can find you can do better with regard to Andrew Yang's comment on this. I'm like that also feels like me him him pandering to this to this. I'm not coming for you. I'm not trying to burn everything down. I'm here you know make peace with the whites. That's the key with China is trying to make peace with like you know. There's a big hole thing about him. Sort of winning over former trump supporters and that to me is I can't get down with. I'm sorry not not what it means that you know like now what it means coming quote go halfway halfway to where they are as halfway to help right so that so that comment of him addressing sort of like the supporters of is is it's supposed supposedly addressing addressing Gillis but it's actually addressing support the would be supporters of Gillis saying like I'm not here to. I'm not here to cancel. Everybody have a telephone conversation where we sit down over coffee. Whatever and talk it out. I'm like I'm no man like don't pander to this. You know so just flip it back actually actually to to kill us for second because ultimately look you know I we you know we could go on all day about about like the intricacies of how and whether those there is in a you know a better way to address this. I've even thought about myself like I when I kinda winner on this. I'm like what is what is the best route to to address this. Is this something where I want to focus on like I sure you too. I got a ton of people saying hey you know you should pay attention to this. Can you get this guy fired like look. My job is not to like hire and fire people bowl. You know it's like when we're in conversation either here on the podcast on twitter it is to hopefully have people think about stuff think think think harder about stuff including the people who you know like Shane. Gillis are out there on their probably you know in the Sea of of responses coming back at them too but you know what if he's fired by Saturday night live that Saturn lives business if they're gonNA do what they should've done a long you know like our days ago right but the the one thing that I find like kind of unforgivable on top of all the other things that are unforgivable. Gillis is he actually went out of his way to call it fucking Hassan Manashe. Oh who to me. I think some knowledge is one of the funniest smartest guys would always say he it was was like in the part of the the conversation was talking about like ranking. COMEDIANS and he kept on using some knowledge as an example of somebody who was like not funny uh-huh and and who was like embarrassing Wade's arms around like this this dude is like sitting you you know talking about like like mocking Chinese people and calling noodles neuters and that's his level of comedy meanwhile assange like went in front of Congress right and did possibly the smartest and funniest piece of Reginald testimony. They will ever exist like literally yeah on student loans. It was just brilliant brilliant work yeah and and every every episode of Patriot Act does is Actually the I think at that level I mean it's the smartest damping in comedy is the smartest campaign. Come in what anybody anybody who says that that is not it's not funny like fuck them and and you know like that's enough reason to not have one on anything like Sarala and even within the comedy world. You don't go after fellow like comics like that like you don't like if you think do not like actually know like Ashley though it's it's that's one the big things with you know just the whole. Colt of Stanton Suffolk that is that you just do not go out your fellows unless it's still jokes yeah exactly. That's like the original center whatever but like you know it. It's more so to the fact that he's expecting this kind of like respect that comes within comedy of Hey. You know I say jokes. I might see some fucked up stuff. That isn't funny but like you know hey. It's all good. It's comedy like you know that comes with the League. The territory also comes with the territory is like not being an asshole in you know shitting on other comics who are doing the same exact stuff that you are. Are you know it's like it's just it just like shows some level of disrespect disrespect when it comes to comedy as like the medium where it's like. You're taking without actually providing back well. The comics have broken okay code. I suppose because other people have called him out of gang Jimmy O Yang. He tweeted out. I usually don't actually see comics. I think this fuckers gotta go yeah. I mean he's back. I don't think it's a controversial thing to say like fuck this guy. I mean what he says is so so it's not even really open to interpretation. You can't really like say like Oh. That was like you know like he's got an angle point of view about this like no you just he he just said fucked up shit. I mean you know in this because he said on a podcast. I don't think it you get you're not protected. I'm sorry no oh you know. We're we're. We said this already sorry but like but I I just don't understand how this is even up for debate. Well okay so a lot. aww Bad yeah a lot of bad fairmount. WF In there too yeah yeah I guess we should close do want to put it on their W T F. We can talk about a young lady. They say our their game wins the same high school to high school. Were like there's. There's a Shitload of true. I mean yeah but like I don't know if that would explain anything. That's that's the thing I like like kind of thinking back on it and it's like because I I went to a boarding school in like New Hampshire which is obviously very very white and I almost feel like well. I feel like I'm not saying that where he you know engineering developed almost his own identity as an Asian American but like when I came into Exeter there was very much not like the Asian American community as a whole was very not establish their heart of like what I I was doing it during my time was trying to establish through like clubs and discussions with like fellow friends and stuff but it's just like it's really isolating yeah you know and you really become it. You search like have that defense mechanism of like I'll play into it a little bit and be you like you know like I know chopsticks. ha ha ha but like you know like. I'm like you guys. You know I it's. It's just like the compromising Asian like it's really easy to play into that stuff and it's really it's the way that most people do. They're not in a place where there are other Asian American score proud to be Asian American right. I hear you and I will say this. I mean one of the things that comes out of this conversation is that there is a lot more need for context. I think around where we as Americans come from you know in conversation I think internally as well about about what I don't know I think I look I will acknowledge as much save anybody else's speaking as an American and East Asian American coming from the Northeast the big city having gone to you know good schools obviously and I went to Harvard College Right. I mean you know there's a certain amount of uh of assumed and real privilege you know in in the position that I'm in and and actually I try really hard to kind of think about how how to not be that guy but I'm that guy sometimes. I'm like always that guy after work hard not to be that Guy Right. I think that's probably something we need to talk more about. Especially since it's a Harvard is at the epicenter right now of that guide them you know with the anytime now right the the affirmative action case is is going to come come out the the the the the ruling on that by the judge and I it's GonNa. Shit show like no matter what happens commissioner show. I think that we have a lot of thinking to do and consideration you know about who we are where we standing what we're trying to accomplish as a broader in very diverse community and I don't know look this is just the very tippy iceberg. We can't do it on this episode. Even maybe this podcast August but if we can be a little part of that we've done something a little bit heavy uh-huh and w just throwing their little league W. F. I realize realized that my the more my professors listened to the podcast which is like dope shouts out to Dr Tamai educating in Asian Americans on our yes go for that next next generation yeah yeah well look. WF Wise. I think it's actually just for me at w. t. f. that like so many we've freaking. Yang's have been in the news recently. I kinda love it but I also like what is going on. so you know hey out there the Yang clan and the Yang I'm Michelle to gene favorites my friend of the Yang's just you. You know what's doing all great. He's just he's one of those guys who if his name is attached to anything. It's GONNA be awesome. I you know what there is something actually so gene actually just this not w. f. and all this totally a good but there's little doubt in it in that the origin of this of this project is like. Whoa oh so gene actually just finish a project for DC. Oh yeah which is remain smashes the clan Dan yeah so clearly. It's like a jumps off of an old time radio serial yeah which actually was about Superman fighting finding the clan clan like the K. k. k. yeah like routing and one of the things which actually drew him. I think like actually the the inciting avent's of the radio. The original radio series was like something related to an Asian family or really yeah so anyway that that comic is out right. We don't think it's out yet well. He he'll exists. He asked me up. You may not have been address to send it so I'm like. Yes yes so when that comes out. We let's get them on. We're GONNA get him on yeah. He's here right here. We're GONNA get him on so I guess for us is like you know maybe it was like W. F. would've taken so long for the this comes to us all right well. Hey we had a lot to talk about here it was I. I thought we were going to do a little bit more of like a I wouldn't say lightweight but sort of you know who is going to this one yeah. I thought we were just going to check in in December as what's up having but sometimes things go yeah all right well that does it for this episode. Jeff where can people you'll find you online they can find original spin on twitter and elsewhere and Phil how about yourself you can find me at angry Asian man and on Anger Asianart Joie dot com you can find our show at they call spruce on twitter instagram facebook etcetera. Please hop on Apple podcasts and give us arraigning or review. We'd really appreciate it and it would help people find the show Nick Song. Where can people find you online. Oh yeah follow me at at I'm Nick Song twitter Instagram facebook. Even I can add one thing. The last podcast we did was like thirty years ago. No it was like about a month ago. Ago was with of course constance. Wu and I will say this weekend that we're recording this. hustles came out yeah right her. Jennifer Lopez amazing easily the highest slash stripper a movie about strippers and sex work and the crime drama crime drama but also like this incredible document exploring the roots of like you know the breakdown financial system and like inequity in America work in a whole range of other issues. It crushed the box. It's like thirty three million dollars again. Proof of power like two thirds of the people watching women two thirds of people watching more poor people are mostly women of color and it just proves something that we've been talking about all along you know tell great stories with diverse audiences and diverse audience out with diverse cast yeah so you know pop prompts to a constant for it's worth that episode yeah got a little bit of. Love Yeah Yeah Vulture Vulture call the sound bolger read. They said we were the definitive constants who podcast Mike Asteroid so so if you haven't heard yeah go back for it so hustlers. You're welcome. I give you that little box seriously conversation great movie. Go see it. I I like it a lot and it was a great movie. Yeah all right all right. Well does it for this episode of calls roosts. Thank you so much for listening piece. You've been listening to they. Call US Bruce with Jeff Yang and Phil. You our theme music is by Kiro One. Our producer is Nick Song. They call us. Bruce is a member of the POTLUCK podcast collective featuring unique voices and stories from the Asian American community find out more at podcasts cast potluck dot com and thanks for listening.

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The Whole Case Falls Apart # 1003

The Dan Bongino Show

56:52 min | 1 year ago

The Whole Case Falls Apart # 1003

"The. Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show. That's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino, dbongino show for Joe. How are you today? No sorry. I have to answer for. He's doing great. We gave Joe the day off have no fear producer Joe. We do. It's sit behind the scenes work, but it's been a long busy day and FOX and friends today. I FOX and friends again tomorrow. So it's been a busy day. I want Joe to maintain his sanity. So he's the hardest working producer in the business, but we are here to produce another show for you got a ton of good content for you. Today. Ladies and gentlemen. The entire case is falling apart. Their entire case, just a stunning court revelation over the weekend that you are not gonna wanna say stunning. I mean, I'm not overselling this a stunning court revelation about this entire whole. The DNC was hacked the Russians did it. You sure about that? We'll get to that in a second. I also I have to. To do some extensive debunking store, an article on drudge that just puts out so many democratic talking point falsehoods. In one piece, I feel the need to address especially during this election cycle. All right. Let's go today show brought to you by but he's at lending club. Big fan of lending club. Listen for decades, credit cards of telling us by now, pay for it later with interest and, despite your best intentions interest can get out of control fast. Unfortunately, none of us know the feeling who'd lending club. He can consolidate your debt, pay off your credit cards with one fixed monthly payment is very easy to use. The suit thousand seven lending club has helped millions of people regain control their finances with affordable fixed rate, personal loans, no trips to a Bank and no high interest credit cards, just to lending club dot com. Tell them about yourself how much you want to borrow you pick the terms in a right for you. 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And that the Trump team colluded with the Russians that's now the second half of that has been entirely debunked. We know there was no collusion, but we were told the DNC was hacked by the Russians. You remember that, right? Well, how do we know that well supposedly we know that dreaded air quotes? We know that. Because the FBI must've analyze these DMC computers, correct, and figured out that they weren't fact hacked by the Russians understand their whole collusion hoax was bedrock on that Russian's hacked into these DNC servers, stolley information and gave it to the Trump team to influence the election that was their whole hoax. So now we know the second part of that, that they colluded with the Trump team has been entirely completely one hundred percent decimated destroyed. It is a hoax, even the anti-trump Bob Muller. Andy Weissman team determined that that is. In fact a hoax. But ladies and gentlemen. What about the first leg of this two legged stool, if you could have one not even have three legs, gotta teeter on it balancing, like a seesaw? What if the first leg of that, that the Russians hacked DNC what if I told you, we're having a really tough time finding conclusive evidence that, that even happened. Let me put up a screen shot from some court documents had tip American thinker hat tip at techno fog on Twitter as well. Here's a photo of a court document. Roger stone. Many of you know, Roger stone. Roger stone is a was a Republican operative. He was friendly with the Trump team for a while. Roger stone is being prosecuted by the Muller team for some false statements charges. So Roger stone went to the court and said, listen, I wanna see the FBI's documents about this hack of the DNC. So they come back in a court filing the DOJ, and the FBI and lot again hat tip, techno fog on this here is a highlighted portion of their response about how the FBI the OJ knows they were hacked by the Russians copies of these reports, were subsequently produced voluntarily to the government by counsel for the DNC and d triple c the DNC be, and the Democratic National Committee, d triple c democratic congressional committee, whatever you know it's their congressional arm. Right. So they did produce some documents about the Russian hacking into their computers. It goes on at the time of he. I got that at sorry at the time of the voluntary production council for the DNC told the government that the redacted material concern steps, take into remediate the attack in a hardened DNC and d triple c systems against future attack. Okay. So some documents were produced by the DNC and d triple c about the heck we know that back to the footnote at the bottom of this piece. Although the reports produced to the defendant, are Mark draft council for DNC, d triple c informed the government, that they are the last version of the report produced. So let me get this straight documents produced by the DNC showing that the Russians hacked the DNC computers, and the d triple c computers, they've only seen a draft report by crowd strike. Remember, the FBI never looked at these computers ever crowd strike. An independent non government, entity a computer security firm associated with the democrat party. They had paid. They paid them for this contract here. We're the ones who came in and concluded that the Russians hacked DNC server now that first part may have been a little confusing, but I wanted to establish the fact that they did produce some documents, but the documents they produced this keep in mind, we're talking about the crowd strike company. What they produced for the government, because the government never looked at these computers. The documents. They produced were just draft documents. And apparently, there was some significant reductions in there. The government hasn't even seen the well, full document now, look at the second part is court filing gets even worse. In any case, this is what the government's argument the DOJ, this is their words and their filing. And in any case. The government does not need to prove what the defendants trial, talking about stone that the Russians hacked the DNC in order to prove the defendant, make false statements tamper with a witness, etc. Etc. The defendant is less, not entitled to the information he seeks. So number one, they say, hey, we don't even need to prove the Russians hacked the DNC. In other words, why would they say that because they can't because their whole case that the Russians hacked the DNC and traded the information with Donald Trump both parts of that could we know the second parts of total hoax. The first part, there's no hard evidence, we have of that either at this point, the government's not even confident its own case, it goes on the second part of this is an absolute gem. And when I say, Jim, I mean like a piece of coal. As the government has advised. The defendant in a letter following the defendants filing. In other words, stone saying, I want to see these documents from crowd strike. Listen to this doozy. The government does not possess the material the defendant seeks the material was provided to the government by counsel for the DNC with the remediation information redacted, however, the government is provided defense counsel, the opportunity to review. Additional unredacted crowd strikes report reports it possesses and defense counsel is done so to data owed even possess. The original reports. The government doesn't even have it, ladies and gentlemen, is this put that up again, please. This is not significant. Look at bullet point number two. The government does not possess to requested information. They didn't even look at the government doesn't didn't even look at the service and doesn't even have the information anymore. All they saw was a draft report by crowd strike. Folks, this, this entire thing is collapsing inwards on them. This is going to get much much worse. They don't even have a final saw a draft report. On believable. The F B I ever going to look at these computers and do their own report. No. Of course, not because you don't want to know what you're gonna find. Now the chew pegs of this case, the DNC hack and the collusion air. What was the first part was based on this? This crowd strike report that the DNC computers were hacked by the Russians. Right. Which we now know is a draft report, and the government doesn't even have the report anymore. And then they tell stone, by the way, you can't see it. Anyway. Oh, we are living in like a police state with these people now but the second part of this is critical to because there's another breaking news story by Paul Sperry this weekend, pulse berry, who I follow on Twitter is very good work into this case. He said, some good breaking solid news at real clear investigations, where he writes, I was looking at his Twitter the other day, and he has a fascinating little tidbit of information. I think would be interesting to you of to know because the second component of this case that they colluded that after the Russians stole the information from the DNC, they were going to give it to the Trump team hinges on popadopoulos this Trump aide, getting that set information from the sky miss sued who's alleged to have told popadopoulos it in April of two thousand sixteen meeting. He's alleged to of toll popadopoulos Masud, that is that the Russians had this dirt on Hillary again, that's not the DNC Hillary's computers in the DNC or not the same thing, but the FBI, and they're broken logic seems to think that this guy MS sudras a Russian agent. You get it DNC of emails, hacked by the Russians, again questionable. We've only seen a draft report, Secondly that information was going to be passed on and the FBI and the Muller report paint this guy miss Sudas having significant Russian connections. And he was going to give that information to Trump aide popadopoulos. What's the problem with this? This guy. Miss sodas. I've said a thousand times on this show, ladies and gentlemen, was not a Russian agent. He was connected to western intelligence assets. Now, I've had this theory for a very long time based on sourcing information and research and two books. I've written on the topic. What makes me believe we nailed this from the start again, if sperry's tweet here is right? Then boom pow ping. We nailed this thing. Breaking the Washington Post is preparing a quote indepth story on the mysterious Joseph Masud bylined by Shane Harris, who is good pals, with Benjamin Witty's commes top spin Meister Benjamin Witty's is the guy Jim Komi keeps leaking in. Formation to that's his buddy. I think he writes for law, fair blog. Whitney's buddy, according to sperry's this guy. Shane Harris who's about to write a piece about miss soon. Ladies and gentlemen, the pieces not having seen it yet. I'll keep my eyes out on it. But I can guarantee you this piece is going to be Komi his leak, posse his FBI and DOJ higher ups. It is going to be them getting out ahead of the story. When they find Masud that Masud was not. In fact, a Russian agent. It was not his Russian connections at work concern. It were it was his western connections. In other words, ladies and gentlemen, this was a setup from the start popadopoulos and the Trump team where framed with a capital, f I have been telling you this for almost two years now. So to sum up where we were, so the whole hack narrative is based on a draft report with reductions that the government doesn't even have. And they won't let Roger stone's see. And Secondly, that this information. It was going to be relayed to the Trump team to popadopoulos through Joseph Masud now all of a sudden a reports coming out by the Washington Post by one comas buddies. Kobe, let me be precise commes Buddy's buddies, according to Sperry, there's going to be an expose about I guarantee you this Masud story is going to be them trying to pre frame the narrative because it's going to come out that Masud was in fact, working for our friendly intelligence assets, who will working to set popadopoulos up say, look, we're going to give them information on Russians. And he took it. Are you rushing? No. I work with these guys. The friendly's. I've been telling you this for two years. You've not been wasting your time it is going to be the biggest. Bombshell, in this case, yet I am getting sick of that word and I get it, you probably are too, because there are so many, but I can't think of a more appropriate term to describe what's gonna come out the two big unanswered questions, who was missing would. That's about to come out. He was working with friendlies and Secondly who were the private contractors that we're giving access to the NSA database. And we're abusing it to get information. Those are the two biggest. The biggest open ended questions right now. But once we find out is not this is not a coincidence, that combs buddies buddy is apparently writing this piece. They're trying to get ahead of this story. It's going to be bad, folks. I'm telling you, it's going to be awful. Okay. I saw this on the drudge report yesterday as I was looking through it, this piece, the piece was by France, twenty four so are moving on folks, I just not related to the two legs of the broken Russia's stool, the two major two legs made you sit on a two legged stool, you'd have to have fantastic looniest Maximus control, you'd have to sit there and a middle surfer like you serve at a surfboard or something like that. But France twenty four this piece up, but it's just you know, you wonder why people can't stand the mainstream media. The mainstream media is really generally a joke. They're largely liberal activists, very few of them. Do good work. And they repeat democrat talking points that are obvious lies. I joke with you often that I wake up every morning thinking, what's my priority? What liberal I are we going to destroy today? It's just so easy to do because really almost all of the information they put out there that substantive and substantive. Is garbage. So this twenty four has some real doozies in it. It's basically an attack on the Trump tax cuts pieces titled American paradox deficit widens, even as the economy grows and I put the piece up there, I'm going to put some snippets from the peace to show you how seamlessly Democrats were repeat the bunk talking points with no concern for honesty or truth whatsoever. Knowing you can research this yourself now, one of these, you'll get a kick out of if you're a longtime listener 'cause, you know, it's been a bete noire may for a long time. This has been just stinging. It's been a, a splinter under my skin forever. Democrats love to repeat, this broken talking point as they do in the piece about the Bill Clinton administration presidency running a surplus, they do it to make, of course, Democrats. Look, great and Republicans look bad here. It is this is people months. This piece was just it's just from the other day, the sixteenth as you can see at the bottom. It says the last time the United States posted a bub budget surplus was during the economic. Boom under Democratic President Bill Clinton in one thousand nine and two thousand one congress controlled by Republicans goes on about the Iraq war. Okay. So the premise here. Older listeners are probably like, I can't believe we're going here. Get yes, we are going here again because I cannot stand misinformation, amongst ignoramus people like this who write this stuff and assume it's true because they have a journalism degree, ladies and gentlemen, there was no Clinton surplus, this guy or woman. Whoever wrote, this piece is writing that in the piece to make Donald Trump look extra bed. I've listened the deficits and the annual the annual deficits and the government debt, we've accumulated and are still growing is horrible. It is very little been done about it. The Trump administration as is said they're going to slow this down. We've seen very little curbing and spending deficits are out of control. I'm not here to cover for anybody deficits were entirely out of control. And the Obama administration they were historic for all the wrong reasons, but this debunked talking point that the Clinton administration ran government surpluses is, ladies and gentlemen. It is one hundred percent made up it is garbage you're going to hear it during the twenty twenty election. Now I have a piece in the show notes. I put in gosh. Ten twenty thirty times before by Craig Steiner, it's an older piece from two thousand eleven but it is so well done. It'll be in the show notes today at Bongino dot com. If you subscribe to my Email, this than the website is always, I will send you, these articles, folks. I'm sorry, but you almost can't even be a conservative without reading this piece because this Clinton surplus talking point is bandied about so much. People actually believe it's true. It is a myth now. From the piece, which you can see again up on Gino dot com. You will see. He has a little chart that is very easy to read. This is not complicated. Ladies and gentlemen, this simple question you need to ask your friends? You'll see by this chart as I go down at here. The very simple question for your liberal friends. If Clinton ran a surplus, why did the national debt go up every single year of the Clinton presidency. Let me read off to you the numbers nineteen Ninety-three, national debt, four point four trillion ninety four four point six trillion ninety five four point nine trillion ninety six five point two trillion ninety seven five point four trillion ninety eight five point five trillion ninety nine five point six trillion. For fiscal year, two thousand five point six seven. It was five point six five the year before fiscal year, two thousand and one five point eight zero seven Paula. I'm that crazy. Those numbers going up every time did those numbers ever go down? Thank you Paula. My, my wife is one of the most talented people, I know, but honestly, she doesn't even need to recruit one, one millionth of our neuronal capacity figure that he shot up. One more time. I want to say something because I'm here to knock with the Republican congress didn't conjunction with the Clinton administration. There were some years, look at two thousand fiscal year two thousand the deficit was only seventeen point nine billion. That's pretty solid work right there. I'm not here to knock them or make up or fabricate numbers, but ladies and gentlemen, no year, no year, look at the chart of the Clinton presidency. How surplus none, the debt national debt went up every year. Just ask your liberal friends, a basic simple question. If Bill Clinton's administration ran a surplus, how did. The national debt go up every year. How does your debt go up if you're running a surplus, it doesn't the trick day, use the accounting trick in the Clinton years to make it look like there was a surplus, ladies and gentlemen, is they took your social security money, and your payroll, taxes, and they use that money to fund the government, but that money has to be paid back. It's still debts. How is it not dead? If it's your social security money, you paid in as many of you Email me, which you did. And they take that money and spend it on government programs. The money's gone, it's spent if it's been given someone else's attentive check or section eight voucher. It's gone. That money has to be paid back to you. It's still dad's the government, ready debt every single year. The Clinton administration folks, listen, I'm not covering this today, because we're short on topics, I promise you. I've got a lot more to get to please. I know sometimes I get emails. We never ever do that. There are a lot of great people out there, but there's some people in the business who run out of stuff to talk about, and you get air fluff where they bring up a topic just to waste up. That is not why I'm doing this, this Clinton surplus talking point is going to be brought up repeatedly during the campaign to make the Obama administration excuse me. The Trump administration look bad, now, the national debt is growing. Now are Daniel deficit this year is horrible. But don't compare it to Bill Clinton, and suggested was a surplus that is not. In fact, true, you're making it up the national debt rose, every year, the only time even got close to balancing the books was fiscal year two thousand. I please read that piece I can't. In strong enough. Terms ask you to read it. So you understand the shenanigans. Democrats pull with this ridiculous Clinton surplus. Okay. Now continuing from the France twenty four peace with who. So we established how they've already put talking point, number one out there, that Clinton surplus existed when, in fact, didn't it's a lie again. It's a mathematical impossibility to increase your debt every year by running a surplus, but the second snippet from the peace, they relay another ridiculous focus group. Tested democrat talking, boy that again is in fact false. But France, twenty four you know who, who expects it needs people to tell the truth. He's talking about the Trump tax cuts in the peace and says while government revenues grew a modest two percent from October to may total outlays jump nine percent. Okay. We'll just on that first one first. He's in the peace. They're trying to make the point that the Trump tax cuts cost the government money, okay cost the government, that's their way of phrasing this again. We got into that last week. And we debunked that extensively tax revenues in two thousand eighteen were the second highest on record ever. But watch the way in the second paragraph year day rephrase the exact opposite of what they just said put that back up again. So I'm going to reread the first line. It says while government revenues grew a modest two percent from October to may. That's the fiscal year so far, the government fiscal year starts Tober. I. Total outlays jumped nine percent. So, in other words, they have a spending problem, but in order to get away from that they say these act opposite. They then go on to say Trump's tax cuts with which mostly benefited big corporations in the very rich reduced revenues by eleven percent while military spending, increase thirteen percent. Also added military spending increase thirteen percent, which also added to the Bill. I don't get it. How could revenues be down by eleven percent when you just said, revenues were up. Can put that up again. 'cause I just wanna make sure reading to save day. Let me show you the scam. So you understand the stand. The scam these media people use revenues are up by two percent, the tax cuts that cost, the government anything revenues are up when they say it reduced revenues by eleven percent, which is the exact opposite what they say in a prior paragraph. What they're talking about our projections. In other words, liberal projections about what tax cuts would have been. Oh, and it's eleven not with the tax cuts actually are. But the tax revenue you get what I'm saying. Please tell me that makes sense, actual revenues are up money in the government coffers is up. When they're talking about a decrease of eleven percents is talking about fictitious ace ops fable bunny, projected money, money that never materialized. Stay you understand how they did. This is the trick day play with you. I thought you just said revenues were up by you. Simultaneously suggested tax cuts cost the government revenue. Now, you're like I don't get it. You're not supposed to these people are liars, tax revenue is up income tax collections are up the only revenue source that went down after the Trump tax cuts was the corporate tax to corporate tax intake. It was a pretty big cut which I guarantee you, we'll recover like every other tax cut is recovered from in American history and produce more revenue. Tax revenues are up. Now, one more time with this because there's another ridiculous stupid. Debunk talking point that I just gotta get because they just keeps coming up and coming up, and there's no adherence or fidelity to truth and honesty at all by these people. They bring up there that this was a tax cut for the very rich. Let me read their exact words Trump's tax cuts, which mostly benefited big corporations, and the very rich. Okay. Folks, this should be a relatively easy thing to discuss. Right. Did these tax cuts benefit only big business in the very rich or did they not we now have a years worth of data, we should be able to figure this out, but French twenty four puts that in their lives? If it's fact, the tax cuts benefit of the very rich and big corporations. Oh, this is all they do is make this stuff up. How do I know that even a New York Times, ladies and gentlemen? The New York Times of all places, by Ben castleman in Jim Tankersley, April fourteen twenty nineteen title face it. You probably got a tax cut studies, consistently find that the 2017 law cut taxes for most Americans accept many of them don't buy it. Here's a first line of the report. If you're an American tax payer, you probably got a tax cut last year. And there's a good chance. You don't believe it. Gee, why would that be? Why would you not believe it? Maybe because France, twenty four can't get their facts. Straight and said, you didn't get a tax cut. It was only for the very rich and the big corporations. The slimes themselves the conspiracy theory promoting New York slimes, how to actually admit that all of the gas lighting is not true. You gotta tax cut folks. You don't believe me from the peace other analyses reached similar conclusions. This is from the New York Times, the joint committee on taxation, Congress's non partisan team of tax analysts found that every income group would see a tax cut on average so did the institute on taxation and economic supply, a left leaning think tank that was sharply critical, the law. In fact, that group when even further this is a left-wing group in a December twenty seventeen analysis in found that every income group in every state would pay less on average under the law in twenty nine thousand nine, I'm going to read that, again, this left-wing group written about in the left wing New York Times, in an analysis found that quote every income group in every state would pay less on average under the law. Aw. In two thousand nineteen. Oh. Folks were part of this is not breaking through this is unreal how the New York Times themselves. It's so funny the times puts in the peace how the American, the American people are getting a tax cut every group in every state, nobody believes it, and then France twenty four in their own peace, writes the exact opposite. And they wonder why nobody believes they got a tax cut. Now listen, you know, shame on some of the Republicans up on the hill for not doing a better job selling this thing. But the reality is, it's not all the Republicans fault. It's just easy to throw them under a Republicans complain about them, you know, to soundly. But it's not their fault. They could do better. But this is primarily the fault of people like France, twenty four and others. Again, I credit, the New York Times writing that piece, I don't want to, they done a horrible job in promoting collusion hoax, the New York Times, generally attack Trump for nothing make up a lot of nonsense. Remember, the Nikki Haley, drape story. They'll attack it any opportunity, but they can't run away from his simple statistical analysis that showed that the story is, in fact, incorrect that the tax cuts only benefited the very rich and corporations, ladies and gentlemen. It's just not true. It's just entirely completely made up. But this is what the left does. They are experts in misinformation and distant formation campaigns. I got another one from the Wall Street Journal in minute to that, I wanna get to because it's another topic that really got under my burrowed in like a tick, this net neutrality thing. But how the left just continued to promote a lie even to this day and unbelievably continues to get away with it. Get to that in a second. All right today show also brought to you by buddies at boosted. You know what let me just show your boosted from it. Hold on, check this out. That's my boosted board. You see that we also want to check that out. Can you block? Look at check that out. That if you want to check it out. Go to YouTube dot com slash bungee. Listen, is that sitting at traffic searching for parking or smelling your seat sandwich on the bus? Imagine writing the streets wind in your hair on your own, with boosted electric vehicle time spent traffic is spent not exploring creating and having fun us boosted to get where you need to be fast with the remote on this thing. 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Right now, boosted is offering our listeners a seventy five dollars off seventy five dollars off the purchase of an electric vehicle when he used the code Dan. Dan at checkout. Go to boosted boards dot com, use code Dan at checkout to get seventy five dollars off your vehicle. That's boosted boards dot com. Promo code, Dan. Checkout for seventy five dollars off boosted boards dot com. Dan checkout. Seventy five dollars off. Okay. So we heard about net neutrality along time ago in the Obama administration wanted to get control over the internet. This is why warned you by the way about opening up government control into the big tech companies Facebook and Google, because once they do it, the government will unquestionably use that to commodities, these services, Facebook, Twitter and elsewhere, and they will basically institutionalize and make deja, a lot of this starts suppression and elimination of conservative content. We have now introducing the government it to any entity is always going to introduce a problem, ladies and gentlemen, the golden rule. Big government. Big problems, little government manageable problems on more time. Big government. Big problems. Little government little problems. Manageable problems. Big government. Now I told you this would net neutrality. Even conservatives were some, some conservatives, I got filleted on this net neutrality. The idea that the government should regulate internet internet service providers, and their line was a bit as a bit as a bit, every piece of information on the internet should be treated, the same Al Qaeda. Sounds cutesy. That's another one of those talking points like the Clinton surplus and Trump's tax cuts benefited the rich, it's a cutesy talking point, the problem is doesn't make any sense because bid is not a bit. Okay. If some dude, Nick stores watching Netflix for sixteen hours, a day, hogging up the entire neighborhoods, bandwith. Well, I'm just trying to get online and check the stock price of Uber or whatever it may be, and I can't get online because the neighbors hog into stuff up, then the neighbor should pay, ladies and gentlemen. That's not price discrimination. It's called the free market. Okay. You want to get in a bigger more luxurious seat on an airplane. You gotta pay for it, you like saving money on an airplane. Want to sit in the bathroom seat pay for the bathroom seat whatevs? That's your call called the free market. A bit is not a bit. The government wanted to regulate the internet, because that's what the government likes they wanted power over these entities because the government craves control some conservatives shockingly, got suckered by this. So the Trump administration, thankfully stopped a lot of this net neutrality garbage to agitate and yes. SEC didn't stop any regulation of the internet at all. That's not true. But turned it back over to the FTC and also with Federal Trade Commission if there were complaints to be had, which is where it should be? Well, this piece in the Wall Street Journal is pretty telling don't forget that net neutrality panic. Remember, like the Clinton surplus in tuck, the Trump tax cuts only benefited? The remember those pants will the net neutrality panicked. We were told when Trump's team got rid of this net neutrality stuff, ladies and gentlemen. Depressed, for your broadband, your SP's, the price for the internet was going to be added control. You're going to have to pay for the every second on the internet. You're all going to go broke and it's going to slow down the internet. And you're all gonna get throttled. Any that actually happened? From the peace. Remember, the prophecies of a web, slowdown. If we don't save net neutrality, you'll get the internet one word at a time. The Senate Democrats fischel account tweeted instead, broadband tweets, actually got faster a good thing, given how many millions of people recently simultaneously, streaming game of thrones. They lied to you all the time every time it is nothing but a. I mean it's like milk in a cow with lies mil- milk milk. Lie democrat talking point milk. Get the otter and milked allies out of them the democrat cow gives you nothing. But lot, this thick gooey substance of why do that is all they give you do. It is all garbage every single time nothing. They tell you is true. The democrat cow cannot produce actual truthful milk ever. It is beyond their capacity, so they lie to you. That's slowed out unit has lots it's actually sped up. Trump tax cuts could benefit they do not benefit the rich. Did you even look at the data the Clinton surplus? It's not real. Can you do basic math? Choice so easy to debate for. So, you know this. Press secretary thing opened up, so I get a lot of tweets from people someone was all get there, buddy. He loves to debate the lives. I do. I love it. I love every I know some conservatives don't like it. They don't like going, some of not all, but they don't like going on cable news, and FOX, and debating, they just don't, I don't know, maybe because it's more time for them. I'm not knocking your approach. I love it. I love, I know what even annoy some of you. So if you like I can't stand what you debate, Geraldo or Crisan, I think it's the greatest thing ever. I love it because I'm totally comfortable with the facts on my side facts. Don't lie people do. All right. New rule segment. We on. I tell you about the new rules new rule show was one of our most listened to shows, ever, ladies and gentlemen, the new rules right now we are in. A political wartime posture here with the left and I only use that now use that analogy. I'm not comfortable with it. I have to be candid with you, because there's, there's nothing like war, but I don't know any other way to hammer the analogy home. So forgive me for a moment. I've said before with Trump that the reason we're willing to forgive a lot of Donald Trump's political pass some societas with Democrats and others is because right now and the liberals and some never Trump folks, actually mock this because he fights, we're in the trenches with Donald Trump right now and you're in you're in a trench warfare fight. You're not worrying about the guys Twitter behavior. Worried about the guy's ability to fight back against this oncoming, onslaught, the left wants you. Silence. Suppressed in some cases, would prefer, you be jailed. I mean you ever see some of these campus reform, type videos where they go to a college campus and they asked what should happen, people who use the wrong pronoun. I just saw the other day and the woman they're interviewing actually suggest that you should be in handcuffs. Because you use the wrong pronoun, for a transgender person that you should be putting Joe. It was a real interview I thought. We had the case in Kentucky and others. I mean it's not uncommon for the tarantula liberals to watch you in handcuffs in jail. What you be sounds. So I said the new rules of this new rules. Are we win you lose the new rules, this whole, we got to be diplomatic? We gotta be cutesy about it. We gotta be nice with the left, we have to be personally, kind. We're obligated personally to follow a moral code. Many of us are spiritual religious beings. I am Christian. It would be sinful and immoral to personally. Treat people in an unsolicited manner in a horrible way, but when we're engaging in this political combat right now. Ladies gentlemen, new rules are in effect. We have to win and they have to lose because they want you. Silence. So I found three stories this week and show you how bad this is gotten. And how finally finally people are starting to take back using the new rules. Remember we win you lose. We're not always gonna win sometimes owner rules. You know what they may be applied us. They're coming for us to. But we're fighting back right now. This time for roasted, marshmallows, and singing kumbaya as long gone. Story number one. This Oberlin college case covered beautifully by William Jacobson legal, insurrection, Oberlin college was hit with twenty two million dollars in punitive damages by a bakery. This is covered by legal insurrection to show being the show. So let me just give you quick synopsis. You may have heard the case about an on Tucker show. Pucker colson. There's a bakery, Gibson's bakery, outside of Oberlin college. It's been there forever. It's been there. I believe since prior to the great depression, Oberlin college is very, very liberal. Couple of kids, walk into this bakery. Try to steal wine. They get caught. No, they try to pay for the wine, excuse me. They get caught. They're not of age. They then try to steal the wine owner, catches them kids start beating up on owner kids, who are minorities kids, get arrested. You may say what's the problem? Of course. It's a liberal college. So the liberal college instead of simply staying out of it letting the legal system take care of it. The liberal college decides because these kids who tried to steal the wine from the place, and it got stopped by the on and proceeded to beat the owner up, by the way, Oberlin college and decides that they are going to start to instigate protests against Gibson's, because these students were minority and it was racial profiling there been no problems with this bakery for one hundred years. But now all of a sudden, liberal, Oberlin decided they were gonna start to attack them. Now, this is amazing. The court filings are on legal insurrections Twitter feed. I strongly encourage you to read these I. Could've put them all up. But I wanted to pick this one redes- highlighted portions, this is absolutely incredible. These are emails within the college showing you how a freight day are of the social Justice warriors students who are completely delusional about this being a racial, the guy didn't want his product store. Look at these highlights, one of the emails, they pointed out from various administrative within the school that the student may throw a tantrum on campus in the cafeteria while eating dinner, and that might be a reason to get their cookies and bagels. Elsewhere what does that mean to college contract with the bakery of that had the incident with the students trying to steal the wine? They cancelled the contract because they were afraid that the students like a bunch of children were going to start throwing cookies of bankas on the floor ladies to channel but it's this rump room aren't these kids in Paris. All by Gus. You're afraid to kids are going to start stomping on bagels and cookies on the floor because a couple of students were arrested for trying. Steal wine. Do you have anything else to do in this college? Where would the adults on this college campus? It goes on these turtle emails are devastated. This is one you can go to legal insurrection at legend direction on Twitter. You can read all this stuff. It is the emails are unbelievably embarrassing for this Oberlin college. It goes on to concern was that the students were angry plaques, who's one of the lawyers asked the fear, is that angry students with throw the food made by Gibson's on the floor and stomped on it. What do people at the school? Yes. That was one of the concerns. They answered it goes on doesn't that sound more like a nursery school that a college? The lawyer s nursery school students through throw flute on the floor. Yes, this is unbelievable. They were afraid of the students throwing cookies bagels out of flu like this is like, who are the people in your neighborhood. This is like mister Rogers neighborhood. I these are children in. College these worried about a near grown adults in overland college throwing food and stopping out on the floor because the kid got arrested for trying to steal wine. New rules, though. Oberlin college fought back. What excuse me Gibson's fought back against Oberlin college. And Oberlin college got smoked smoked. Like cohiba. Twenty two million dollars. The maximum allowed by law in punitive damages. This college is going to pay to that bakery. Folks, I told you a long time ago. My friend, Tom fitness, you dish, watch is a line about. How the left makes the process punishment, though? Never forget that line. The left understands that they don't have to win a case against you. If sue you. The left understands it, they don't have to prove Trump Russia collusion. They just have to lob the charge and starting investigation. They didn't prove Trump was exonerated fully. Fully exonerated. But it doesn't matter. They beat him up for two years of his presidency. They cost him and his team of fortune and time legal expenses stress. The left has learned to make the process, the punishment not the result. Tell me understand that please, it's important. Now it's time, we do the same thing, Dan. That's your moral. Sorry. It's not that process exists. And if the left wants to use that process to attack us, then we will use that process on the right cause of this fighting back like Gibson's bakery. Did to make sure that people who attacked us pay too good for Gibson spe Kary. I got another example of peak snowflake, by the way. I wanna make sure if you do business with this conference. You know what's going on? I'll let me get this one. We have one final read for the day. Good company wants to be here, and then we'll get to the rest of this. 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So, again, look around in the weekends and I'm trying to find some of these stories and I thought about this new rule segment. And I said, okay, new rules. You wanna start dancing. Well, let's let's dance. You wanna Tango. Let's Tango, you wanna FOX trot with us to let's Bengo. Babe ledge do it. So there's this conference. It's a cyber security conference. Some black cat cybersecurity covers. I love black soul like mysterious. The black cat cyber security conference surprise, the left their identity politics. Hasn't lost. You say black hat you can't say that clearly racist. So they had this cyber security conference. And the keynote speaker was going to be a Republican. I don't agree with all the time. He's kind of moderate, but we'll heard from Texas. We'll heard was a member of the intelligence community for a long time. Very smart man again, I don't always agree with what he has to say. But we'll hurt having been an intelligence committee member now a member of congress from the important state of Texas. Sheesh. What better guy right to keynote, a black cat intelligence community conference? This guy's a real disguises stud. You'd want this guy at least and that this is like a, a plus guests to get no no not. According to axios snowflakes social Justice, warriors. Strike again, will heard loses cyber keynote over women's issue Vos. So apparently because we'll heard voted pro-life in certain cases. These social Justice warriors pressured this black cat conference to kick will heard off their keynote, and these idiots actually tweeted about it and their Twitter account, which explains why they weren't sensitive to the politics. I thought it wasn't intelligence conference. You knuckleheads that they weren't sensitive to it, and it will heard was going to be removed. This tweet by the way is being ratio into the phantom zone. Ratio is for those don't use Twitter. If you tweet something, and it gets tons more comments than it does. Re tweets. That's getting ratio. It's complicated. But it basically means that people are attacking you via comments, but nobody's retweeting meeting don't like it. So if you have a bad ratio thousand comments to ten re tweets that means you probably tweeted something dumb, and people are commenting on it, and it ain't good so black cat, their conference Twitter account. The tweet is being Gratiot into the phantom zone. Folks, if you listen, I'm not telling you to boycott anything you spend your own money, wisely or off smart, people, I hate boycotts, personally. I mean, if some places I don't spend my money but I'm just saying if you're doing business with this black cat thing you may start to ask yourself. Why people who support life are not welcome. Just the question. We're respectful question. We'll hearts not welcome than important voice out there again. I don't even agree with will hurt at a lot of issues. It's very moderate on some issues. I'm not I'm very conservative on, but kicking the guy off a conference. Are you kidding me? Ridiculous. So ridiculous. And things have gotten so out of control. Okay. Less story in the new rules asked the questions just ask the question you deal with black cat. Why are Republicans? Now, welcome. I'd like to know. Interesting story at the rap the rap with w of course. New rules, get woke go broke. Of course I didn't make that up. I just love that line. I see it on Twitter. Although, you know, the, the liberals the snowflakes social Justice worries they had this thing, where woke woke meeting. We're identity politics. People were aware of the diversity issue. We are so reading on the liberal agenda. Well, conservatives usually joke. Okay. Get woke. In other words, get liberal go broke you company will probably go out of business. Well, proving my point that again, the new rules are in effect and conservatives are absolutely tired of getting crapped on by Hollywood media types Oberlin, college and people like black hat. Couple of movies came out this past week week and a half ago, and they bombed big time. What does this have to do this? But oh, don't go anywhere. I will explain the rap men in black international leads box office, but sequels keep slumping the spinoff, and chef open below expectations while dark Phoenix continues to crash. Folks want to be overly dramatic about the implications of this. But there's no question in my mind because I know I can speak for myself, obviously and friends of mine. So we see two movies here that are crashing and doing a Bismah business men in black international, always at the movie where Tessa Thompson, the co star the movie, she was in creed. I think she was in Thor ragnarok as well. She made a comment about how the title of the movie should be changed, or can be changed later all to what like people in black or something that men in black, what like insinuating, somehow that it was in some way misogynistic, folks, face them. Here's me walking to the movie theater, right? To see men in black international. Right. I didn't really do this, but just play the game from it somewhat. Here's the movie theater door, then Dan Bongino opens up his phone talking about himself into third person like Bob Dole. He gets on his phony sees a Twitter men in black female star says the title should be people. Here's me. Here's me getting my car. That's used the remote. Here's me getting my car. So now I'm in the car, and here's the call. Speeding away away from the movie theater immediately. I'm not interested in your social Justice where you're not says the title of movies men in black. It's not a shot on women. It's a joke. It's a joke, Tessa get over it. But of course, spoke. So that movie of course bombing too bad. That's so sad dark Phoenix, a movie I actually was interested in seeing dark, Phoenix is the next time we I like marvel I grew up on marvel comic books was a great escape for me when I was a kid saw some sob story, don't worry. But when I was a kid, I used to love comic books things out a little rough at one point. And to this day, kind of leads me to go back to my child, and I love the X men growing up. I thought they were really great. I'm not seeing this movie not interested at all. Turns out that. So fi Turner who plays the Phoenix, and the X men movie is another one of these, we have to terminate the lives of infants in the won't people. And if you don't support me, I'm not going to support you. We're going to boycott Alabama and their new. Georgia, excuse me, their new pro-life laws, and Sophie Turner decided she if, if you're a pro lifer, she can't support your stadium been. So we can't support you either so fi you're the lead in the movie by, by SIA when might be I'll watch it free. When it comes up on TNT, but I ain't give a new anything. Of course, Jennifer Lawrence in that movie to made disparaging comments about Christians, a long time ago. But yet continued to ask us for money dumbest business model ever ever. Dumbest business model. I have ever seen in my entire life. Get woke colebrook. One last story. The day it'd be in the show notes was worth your time. Eighty McCarthy had a great piece in national review cover a quickly about, again the double standard when it comes to Trump's comments interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC where I thought he was crystal clear, the title of pieces, Democrats, apocryphal and foreign interference to be clear. The Democrats for days have been losing their minds still on Monday even Trump was crystal clear on what he said, Trump said, if foreigners tried to give him information that depends with the information isn't he may go to the FBI. He may if depends what it was so McCarthy sums this up beautifully. Here's the first part of his, here's the standard for Republicans. He says you see how this works in the Stephanopolous contra Stephanopolous construct shoes me when a Republican president gets information about the democrat rival, there is a duty to treat the matter as a crime and report to the FBI the outreach is not a crime, and he FBI one actually do anything other than not intelligence file. But the transparency. Parent purpose of this contract is the convert any Republican failure to report this non-crime into a scandal bordering on treason. So cute Andy McCarthy is the best of the best the cream of the crop. So when Republicans get information from foreigners, however non-criminal, it may be if they don't immediately report it to the FBI. This is treason. What's the standard for the Democrats? He's Butte by contrast when a democrat in power, the intelligence community is placed in the service of the democratic candidate. If a foreign power reaches out with information about our how do about the Republican candidate. The administration does not notify the FBI investigate the foreign power for interfering election. The democratic administration. Thanks, the foreign power and their directs the FBI to investigate the Republican candidate. Yes. Yes. Republicans, you either report every piece of foreign information, which treason when Democrats get information about the Republican demand, the FBI investigate them. No matter how dubious ridiculous. The information non-criminal is and make sure the I see is weaponized to attack your political, that's genius. How we're ever going to continue a constitutional Republic, like this with double standards and rules like this is beyond me. All right, folks. Thanks again for two, and I hope you saw me on FOX and friends, please. If you didn't tune in tomorrow, be guest host. And again on Tuesday, check it out of really appreciate it guest from six to nine FOX and friends. Check that out. Thanks for everything, folks. Please subscribe to our account YouTube dot com slash Bongino, Crafter show on apple podcast. Iheartradio soundcloud. It's all free. But the subscriptions that would help us move up the charts it really matters a lot to us. Thanks so much for your loyalty. I really appreciate you just heard. The Dan Bongino show, you can also get Dan's podcast on itunes soundcloud and follow Dan on Twitter twenty four seven at dbongino.

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SheGotGoals Podcast ep 4 ~ Are you a Good Friend?

SheGotGoals Podcast

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SheGotGoals Podcast ep 4 ~ Are you a Good Friend?

"Two three she go she got. She got go go. She you gotta go does yes. Yes yes thank you and welcome back to. She got goals podcasts. Thank you guys so much for tuning in when we appreciate you coming back. Welcome to our fourth episode are moving right along here. <hes> this is Chicago's podcast where our mission is to support and motivate women in countless areas of Li- our goal is to mentor the next woman going through career headaches relationship will family drama loss of a loved one and everyday chick stuff and I am Shayna and I'm Dana and we are to Alpha females who are both learning and navigating life after forty four we started. I I have to give a shout on sue. Jalen knew who youthful vocal thank you I have received some shade from <hes> narrow people about my original thank you original Dow was in my idea and Jalen just made it made an extra special. Thank on thanking thank you Jalen near he as a professional what a C._D.. On might say thank you. Yes thank you we appreciate before we get started with a nice topic. I just wanted to to say we are live guys. We are available on spotify where on Stitcher we're on tune in. We are available anywhere and everywhere that you were looking to hear some good good good message in a podcast well now everything by the time you hear this will be why don't worry we're going to get there. You can also find us on instagram or facebook as she I goes podcast you can message suggests you can provide his comments and feed bag. You know hit us in our D._M.. You got something you WANNA share. He WanNa be guests and does a message. She got goals podcasts at gmail.com and again you can find us on instagram and on facebook as she got goals podcast curse so that good content and that's what I do so tonight's topic at the sole four topic is are you a good friend. Um Are you a good friend and before we start out I have to my friend who says that Am. I A great friend day. You integrate yes. You are a great friend even good Shane. Do you think you're a great friend. Great free wait wait. No no outlet the fine friendship I well then. I'll let you decide if you do have a true definition thanks to Google. We my good friend you. You are a great friends sitting well. I can tell you some others are not but anyway we're going to die later but at true definition of a friend a true friend is someone who leads you have total freedom to be yourself and especially to feel we'll. Do you think you are yourself in our relationship. Are you hindering anything towards me bill us. You can't be vulnerable to express yourself day net with no sorry that was hilarious. No I feel like I could definitely be myself. I can express myself. I feel like I don't have to hold back anything that I want to say like that's the best part about having a good friend you can be honest and true without any backlash without Albany judgment would be you just judge a little bit earlier he didn't well. You didn't judge me but you gave me good friend advice and I was able to listen and here it with my open heart because we're good friends and I think that's what makes a good friendship absolutely if you Camberley be honest with your friend and what what's exactly like if you feel like you have the bite your tongue or you're going to trigger something you know you feel like I don't need to say that because it might make them feel sad or some kind of way the chew fan I mean maybe an associate yeah that's true I have to learn in life day. Majority of the people you around. Our associates takes a lot to become a friend I mean I used to be the one is to call everybody. My friend like Oh. That's my that's my friend. That's my coworker. My friend my church burnings of my friend my this is my friend. I will call everybody <music> like by our everybody but I had to learn later in life that everyone is not your friend. I had to learn now through people who love me who told me hey that person is natural friend even like well wait the F._A.. No they're not and I had to learn as older older. I was older. I'm getting his dad mark. Quality friends have shrink and is not like the massive number that I think I told you another podcast. I had a lot of girlfriends I do have a lot of girlfriends but the core group of my friends I have like a fantastic fabulous five. They know who they are. Those I consider brand right and I do have friends I have more of course we all have more associates than friends but I I am blessed to have good girlfriends and I'll tell you before you do you feel like <hes> that you can do you feel like you can be honest with this. Your fabulous five can be yourself and you can actually be shining in this group of friends that you have absolutely they wanna be fabulous five if they didn't know the dark and the bright Shayna if they can't tell me when I'm wrong on where where I need to be checked corrected they can do that. This group of girls have missile collection of Shell who friends and I'm and I'm thankful childhood friend. That's a blessing <hes> in this group all the way through college friends through friends. I met at work and I thank you cap the five of being my good good corker girlfriends glad I I will say that I do have some older good girl friends that are not part of my fabulous five but they're older girlfriend's dad guide me and I had three older sisters. Did I will say that <hes> mentor me there my mentors and there our friends of friends and they're like I go to guidance <hes> as well so yeah I I'm blessed to have those older girlfriends older sisters in my life. They know who they are. One happens to be where I work. At <music> Charlotte's Debbie <hes> the other two. I've talked about a previous podcast they podcast too toxic relationships Miss Angie and Miss Yolanda. You met them both <hes> you all three of them yeah <hes> so they are instrumental the middle of my life and they have a vague. They're older. They're knowledgeable. They can see things that I cannot see and give me feedback say it's going to be okay and I really truly and then you say the fellas passe the same thing to oh well I they do is good to hear the same sort of feedback from some a person who's lived a little bit more having a little bit more life experience <hes> it's good to have a older women in your corner to gather because they provide that extra after a little bit of guidance people on the same level with you. You know we have our own little kind of advice that we could give but it's definitely better if you have older people that coaching part them yeah part is is something that every woman should have. I agree now. You know what I have reached back out into the flock and I have a little person that I coach Erica Farrakhan there. Hey Erica yet and I saw something in her. Dan Resemble me and I saw that she was a go getter and chooses thriving and she graduate from Howard. She just good girl so i WanNa mid so her like our was mentor so yeah shutouts lots of Erica but I wanNA talk about three types of friendships because there are three types people <hes> yes google thanks to Google broken down easily for me to understand. I think people will understand these three different categories of friendship. The one is friendships friendships of utility which the benefits was beneficial to you to be my friend. Do they have a lot of celebrities or a lot of people. You know you WANNA get to know you're using them for their their in networking on the second type of friendship is fresh us a pleasure. Do you all going to strip club together. Do you do you. Do you like to Crochet. So you like the Goldman Yoga you have like <hes> you know a mutual friendship like that. Hey you should be familiar anyways guys friends though you know do you we have fresh pleasure and last but definitely not least as friendships of the good and this is the one that's the most important is based on respect appreciation and you'll see and I feel like if you have more than a handful of France based on that friendship of the good you my friend are truly blessed indeed and my significant other says that a lot light you know <hes> Golota friends and you know he's injured so he has you know a smaller window of people he confides in but the thing about it is that yes I am bless. 'cause I tell them anything. Anything happens to me my life group team five in the middle of the night they will be there. Yes indeed okay so <hes> is this through thick and thin of the obstacles or life has tested me and my friendships SOC- that person or they're loyal to be circle and everybody's I didn't I circle treated as associated keeping moving but I am blessed to have some good friendships so they never do you think do you have have a lot of good friendships or where. Where's your walking when it comes to being a good girlfriend I actually do not have a lot of good friends but I haven't very very good reason why because I have a big family of sisters and cousins well? Oh how you're one of the weird what is a rare people who broke in. I've always rare not weird where I've always had maybe at the most two or three girlfriends at the time wow I have <hes> about four system four sisters I have about say about. I have three six. I have one sister cousin and I have lots of other cousins. My mom is one of my best sister cousin. My sister cousin is my cousin and I are six months apart. When we were little and growing up we were always together? We thought we were assist okay. We're each other's for siblings before we had other siblings. That's why I've never been an an only child even though my next sisters seven years younger than me 'cause I've always had my cousin in many where she was she does seven years machiner- are as we still have fun originator <hes> but with my baby sister is being younger than me. It's so funny now. My youngest sister's are twenty six twenty seven so now that I'm forty when I talked to them like good girlfriends they give me advice from such a so separate millennial perspective. It's amazing. You should get a young girlfriend because there have Eric Eric Eric. Keep me a check Abbey's. I think I'm like old to her because I'll be like what is that acronym. That's my baby sister acronym acronym now. I don't get in as well <hes> when told me that we should have people hit us in our D. Him I was like are we saying to say that like that sounds listen if you wanna hit us in our D._M.. We are instagram and she got goes back as well yeah but anyway my sisters my mom is one of my besties. You know my mom's my travel buddy you if you say me on facebook always me and my mom that's my rotter steady so yeah I got sister sister cousin Mama and then on the side. There's always been one or two girlfriends who have to come in and blend in with my family set my family you know they. They don't like New People coming in so you gotta fit they. I'm don't some of them don't have you have you make pass my sister's then you one of us you like family made it through wash. Feel on thank you you allowed to come around and being family functions <music> so but having your family as your friends brings a different dynamic because when we argue when we fight you can't not be friends anymore because you're always family and I've had some girlfriends who we did not get along long. I have not spoken to them since and yet there isn't <hes> sometimes you have bad friend experiences but I I can't tell those stories because my bad friends experiences were my family and we still related wow. We don't have nothing to add. This podcast is no not because they listen anyway. What's your bed friend experience so one sided conversation about okay anyway? Yes associates is only my brother and I and <hes> yeah it's not only not only to have a young brother and I had circles different types of circles. I have my church unscrew friends. I had my girl scout friends. I had my African Dad's friends. I had my choir friends. I had just circles different types so circles and I had to get to a point where I was trying to combine your other circles. One time like I wanted to have a get together with my house and it just wasn't a good look I have tried to intermingle <hes> and have kun-bae experience with all doesn't work on time and I was told by old friend rest in peace that you cannot do that. Chrissy you cannot do Shane and I always dry. You gotta have different friend sets and I remember that the sense operate separately but the thing about is that one person like myself can be stretched so thinly and like you want to be able. It's hard to balance because he had a career ear at the time I was married and in your marriage your career then your friends and China do your meanti your meantime is like all of that and all these like five or six circle groups and outside trying to gather because it was becoming so much and I can see this in my mind the party happening that just don't sound like it's GonNa work did it did it and then I also know that outgrown certain circle true that happened it did happen in my twenties remembers on friends that I was really close with a guy like extremely close and I don't even know where they add to me years. These women were really close to me at a point in my life. It was a season we will travel and I don't know where they're at have quite a few friends that I met along my pathway of path of friends in we're not close is worse. They came in my life for a reason to season bright but I also know that I had been involved in one of the type of all I've been involved in the three types of friendships which is a friendship U._T.. Which is the benefits I definitely have been <hes> and that type of friendship and it doesn't feel good? I have been used in that really doesn't feel good. I have been in the first pleasure which is not it's okay. I was going crazy. Zimba and I'm like <music> our off captain and everything like I wanted to be Zuma instructor. I was really Zuma. Zumba and I met some coup people do Zuma but of course the relationship after ended kind of the relationship dissolved themselves so I I like I like friendships of pleasure because for me with my sisters I always had some some something somebody to do things with but sometimes they don't want to do with this stuff I wanNA. Do you know you're a single mom. You're not always available in bright other friends. I think I might be the only friend in my friend group. That doesn't have kids sulfur me to find a friend who just likes to do the same stuff. I like to do like you know go to open mic or do a sip and pain or something. Those friends are useful but we don't. We don't have not not one using them. We don't have to talk on the phone everyday all the time but we can get together and do that thing that we like. There's nothing wrong with that. It's actually a lot of fun. Well I mean come on. Let's be honest who talks on the phone every day. We're not a high school. Now I have had my lessons learned of friendship when I was in high school like I know I was a bad friend or somebody I will admit and then I know that in turn I got a lot will a couple life lessons a couple of girls me Rome. I know that and ninth grade album remember this like I share one of my so-called best friend secrets. I know an actor be open and honest say that this this still even to this data talk about it as she and I were really cool. She's a little rock around the edges but I was so many I was trying to so many people that somebody say something that I said No. That's not what happened. I shared her secret. She wanted to fight me like return. She turned into my enemy in our never forget this like I really felt bad and it was my fault and I it was a lesson that I have learned. I could talk about it now age forty one but to this day it was my fault of the demise of the relationship and I had to swallow that she became my enemy like she wanted to fight me. A right. We saw should have Ryan my mouth <hes> so I learned the then against the backfired on me because I had some girlfriends friends that are that will consider my friends and this is the Nolan high school and you'll learning and I was I was a virgin throughout high school which I was proud of it. I mean thanks to my mamma gave me a virginity contract where I couldn't have signed couldn't have sex it to they graduate on the back episode three to here but the rest of the stories contract so it actually works. I did not have school 'cause I had the fear my mom contract but I had experienced life lessons of girls what my friend because I will get the popular guys dating the popular guys and I'm like I'm dating such and such but I found those friends was Hiba. Why and I was like my friend and either really know understand? What Chu Friend was to me at an early age no soul you imagine you're going through high high school? You'd think you'd a girl you Cap Ota Cheese in NYC gray you doing you had the popular boy you told your girlfriend secret and she wanNA fight you. The you get some more new friends they slept which may orange and I just realized like Oh my God like now I know how what kind of friend I wanna be and what is a true friend. I had lessons learned on both ends right and it took some time yeah. It took some some some lashing for me to get to where I am and even college like me. I had experience in college but I think think I got older. Immature is started to understand the value of someone really being loyal and I'm just GonNa go into like oh spark has had the experience of <unk> I- loyalty is key to me. I that's one of my key things. If you are lawyer to me I am. Everyone knows how Scorpio is. We're going to be loyal to you back and I never forget it is time when I was pregnant with my son and I remember I put my girlfriend's inhale too Shannon heard horror stories glad I wasn't there for that. <hes> girl you you. You probably would have ended our friendship. Shout this Shannon Granada. We hear me down. Hey girls they know what I'm talking about and they had to say well. They were going to all my Guy Shane. It was I was just I was high maintenance intimate but anyway <hes> when I was pregnant I took my girlfriend's do the ringer I know I drove them crazy and the type of girlfriend I am. I reciprocate that love that I might be a hail wheels to deal with for a little bit but I show you love return so it was one time it was his trip that planning for my good girlfriend says I wanted to reward them like thank you for giving me through this me being pregnant and going through and emotions feelings and everything and I remember I was <hes> envited a certain group curls and our planet to team I had helped by my mom and we will go away and in the reality of it is I had this one girl who was my lesson learned Parma one of my hardest hardest learn as adults of a is this type of fresh of Friendship Utility or benefits or friendship of the good. I had to really figured that out and it's a lot of lashes maturity to figure out which one she category she fitted. So this particular situation I was telling everybody to be at my house at a certain tags. We won't go away for girls ship. I HAD HENNA TATTOOS CHEF massages. I have oh these immed- going on your donate now. Yeah we do a big and I do too big for my head to a show up they knew about the event and I remember we sit around waiting for them to show up at my house <hes> waiting and waiting in Illinois son and I felt compelled to invite one of their friends so they she could feel comfortable and now is one thing that we all like how you can ally change your your your your situation scenario p amount of yells now the the sign that Amazon right there and I was Li- invited her that she's not even cool cool group anyone Wanna buy her. I WANNA buy her anyway and ages shifted like I was pregnant waiting and then all of a sudden got a phone call saying we're not GONNA be able to make it what are you doing. I'm like seven months pregnant my girlfriends who were there waiting for them to show up she speaker for other people say oh they can't hey come to our vying. They'll just to appease you so you could come in and now they've come because of you know what I had anxiety attack I was I had anxiety attack carrying my first child and I remember my ex husband was like you know one shine. This is hey this. Is You know you know what you're you're dealing with is to you. Continue allow this cancer treatment exactly my mom was is there. She assured me and the girls they will take care of. I have my mom there so it wasn't like I'm trying to put them in harm's way. I mean I had girlfriends. I have families. I wasn't gonNA put my girlfriend's until any kind of hard because of what it was it was a hurricane that was happening that weekend and it was all this is GonNa come we. We were going to make the best of comeback earlier but let's keep them with the plan but I tell you what that worry. When that challenge my loyalty it was a rap <hes> that right they it was like I would never allowed US person to get close to my heart again and till this day seven Jesse will be eight is like at the person in our tribe but I know where you are where you stand br? I will never allow you to get that Costa Mir ever again to break down like that. I will never do that to you. That's the lessons learnt right there but it's important because sometimes when you're an adult you forgive a lot of things that you probably wouldn't wanNA regular bases under the pretense of that's my friend. It's okay sometimes we have certain friendships. You have to understand the type of friend that you have and you have to meet people where they are but then there's also instance where it's like where you are just as good for me so again she there anymore right as true yeah that's true and that's where I was my life. I was like I'm about to have new beginnings a child I'll have time for this can't continue and you know we can't get in anything. That is a burden that takes up so much didn't is this. Let's not go <hes> relationship with your partner. You got to make some some hard. It's interesting saying this benefit me right like I. I'm not GONNA sit here. Mistreat me like he right there that because what. How is this a friendship anymore I feel like I'm being mistreated and I will say this I will I wanna go I wanted I wanna list where <music> are characterised as a good friend and then then you WanNa talk about some courage of Obama friend? Here's what to me. I mean we are human. I WANNA say I'm not perfect. <hes> you're not perfect. We're all GONNA be available. When a friend call right I have been venable because life happens? You know get things going on and work on a project and the net could be called me about this podcast day. I'm not going to turn a phone call you know she don't be answering Michael. They don't get like that but ladies and men you all can identify stuff and you got to prioritize you do that Bingo. You said because the nets my girlfriend she's not gonNA hold a grudge. Take Okay. We'll get back me where she can go and I thought the exact same anyone on my my friends if they no I'm not reachable denial deathly get return and get back with you may not be that day and vice versa with them if I can't get him. I don't feel no love laws our call them again all they will definitely return my phone call but let me just share with you. <hes> in our research on Google of character was a good friend <hes> they made sure that you're okay the moment you said something wrong like eight my girlfriend's my path and since those Roddick it's probably my voice me because you're quiet and then never happened ever call his life. Hey and then I know something. That's completely. First of all Shayna answers the phone like this. Hey what's wrong. If I used to bother me I'll be like why should I was things you do. Whenever you I call you always answer with? Hey what's wrong but I noticed you do that to other people not right because you think something's wrong with because you answer the phone with concern now hey what's up. Hey what's wrong. What do you need what can you do? I don't take your personal. I know your personality type and I know that sometimes if I call especially Russian call like we were not every day on the phone type Franso sometimes if I call you're automatically like I know this is going on a day ness life so I wonder if such a such happened yet at wonder if we fix this problem. I wonder if she's calling event so when you answer the phone for me I know I have your complete attention and you're like hey what's wrong. Okay what's up. Could it be because I'm always got something. I gotTA deal with probably people that we are and and stuff going now lies and people call you for south same as they call me for stuff so when I answered the phone I just say hey in the next week like put my shoulders up in cringe. Hey what can I do for you. I never noticed that I I don't like that. Maybe next year I changed that I'm going to help you are seeing you do that the other people to another reason. I don't take personal when when you're hearing your phone rings you do that. You've done that once or twice the answer the phone behavioral you'd be like hey what's what's wrong okay you. I work okay. Oh my I never noticed that okay so then no went to be theory. There's no point number two no went to be serious goofy. Dan is important because we laugh a latte but did we know when to be serious here to silence. I I thought recording that much okay go the extra mile. We ask for help yes now. We'll say this 'cause I have brunch over here and that's long Algo might deny is my rotterdam. She came up here to help me said she helped me. She even carping China and did she say a hold on. I gotta go because my girlfriend stranded in the middle of my job as I say what do you do but now it's a true friend. Her girlfriend was stranded. A Song Habits are key in day net guy. The middle of my brunch that I had Hannah taxes on Michael Spread to drive an hour to her in our to bring her back and then I came back to burn yes did but that's a true fan. You know you go the extra mile go the extra mile when they ask for help then four it. They don't give give up on you. During their darkest hours true this very important yeah I will say my darkest hour which have just kinda skirting around it was I lost my ex-husband unexpectedly because we will oughta gather Chile the day able four and I think that they nine and and my <hes> fantastic fight even had a conversation about Rieti Fisher bio the week last week of his life and Alma Guy I will say Dow was a lot that was like a gray area that which is a live it was it was it was hard. It was in you know what again when you have that good group of friends when when your circle of friends came together to poor love on you it was like we all would there for one purpose and I could feel the love from all your friends like we're all friends now because we all love Shane us a wonderful thing right so it was it was a tough time whether it's time that was very time and I just remember being back of your car. We all going to Baltimore and you all were trying to keep me laughing so hard and yeah y'all were there for me. Oh my God by Confront Dad and see that and you got me go I mean as we you go your girlfriend like mature worse moment like going to the funeral home and our was passed out like they got me even with other things around they will block a me like no nope we got which the what do we do. They shoot it me from that and our say that day they met. Let's not let's not do. This is not that episode guys. Do you just think about all the support I mean you never know who your friends are until that time when you need the moat yet may be stronger but so hard for me to say I need help. I need help. I now right because I wasn't right but you know the type of friends that she had type of friends that we are. You don't have to say you need something like that was so devastating for you and Jackson that all we could do is be there for you because that's what friends are supposed to do. Yeah you all definitely you were. They were being my darkest hours and carry me through even the middle of the night when I couldn't sleep and stuff anyway go once a number five make them feel once a yes. You definitely have to be a recipient. Reciprocate advocate was whistle reciprocal. I'm less than just reciprocate the action yeah you gotTa pull. It's like a relationship is given take taking you have to put in which you want out of it and you let me in their friend. They'll Goni coal way. You broke up with your man. Now you want to be a friend now. I was girlfriend when I was in high school sparring in college too I will be like all my friends for do my gophers from church three day but I got a mega right. Am I really like that and I was and that was wrong. I just didn't know how to balance because I was immature. You don't know but you know what I've had in my in my early later twenties early thirties some of the friends that I had that I I'm still conference with now so I'm not really friends with. They were <hes> those type of friends. They were I always say. There man crazy because when you're in that thirties you're looking for a husband. Some people's clock start taking a little bit earlier than others and I just felt like your main goal in life is defined the husband so our shared passion was not the same because I wasn't looking for husband when I was twenty seven to thirty five wasn't interested in and yet every time we hang out or we're supposed to hang out if that do call you all of a sudden I get dropped like potato so those friendships didn't they didn't last yeah. I'm quite sure some girlfriends bypass for me because of that girl yeah and I was like that I'll be guilty of that. I just didn't know how to balance it but you know what I worry. I don't worry about it because I'm not that type of person person but when I started on this journey like I would like to get married. I WANNA find a husband. I think about that like I hope I'm not that friend that I got rid of. I'm not mad crazy or boy crazy but I am you know kind of laser focused on my goal. I'm for the future but not to the detriment of my friendships. My girlfriend's gotTa be here with me. On this journey as I meet the man somebody changes though he's my mom always told me because she croup lately like all about in my day they've been married forty years. She's like you know my father everything that's and I just wanted to always have I wanted to always had that balance but in my marriage my first my Mile Homo right when I was married that wasn't issue. He said I had so many friends because I didn't give him the tension and that was true. I really didn't give him the tension Dan. I should have given him and I know this a nail. If I ever decided to get married I want our Ha. I I know that and I know that it will have to be balanced like I do respect my Mary girlfriends France my best friend has been married to her best friend for twenty years Shannon also close girlfriend <hes> Mary to twenty years and I admired their balance because e the singlish Mary Shayna then turn into a single Shayna day still were able to talk to me and you know we'll talk a phone and everything but will Akwa say as their priority is their family is their husband in their family. We don't get to go out and you know like a single. Go for like you and I can do but I know that they dare dare up there because anything I need as far as if I'm struggling with something they're going to be there emotionally to support me not physical sense right but also if his something important or major okay then they'll definitely be oh my God is something frivolous or just hang out. Why then you you understand like I can't as my girlfriend goes to the to the happy I can't? I can't leashes house my best friend Eh. I can't go to the happy I I know our respect. They're rolling their life. which is a wife I in a mother second or whatever their role is but I notice their role is most important and I understand Lina well? We have our big major milestones then of course yeah we're going to be there for gender but yeah you you. You understand this inspect the row. I do think if I do get married again I would do things differently. I'm going to be honest folly. I'm not going to get rid of a fabulous five because look it out girlfriend. Were not you know we're not as C.. Found love and we will never today will come and she would just leave the area no <music> Jessica see left the area foul love and she's truly happy and that's what you'd have to do. You Watch a May your man or wife to work you do you live your the best light and she's got a great balance because we're not as not physically here and she's not around for the the every day hang outs and drinks but we're not as always around yeah. We're on our way to this house like the biggest still part of the crew even though she we know that her husband is her top priority out the cash why eleven girls yeah so I mean you have to balance at all. I mean I think your relationships change mature. You know where you go to different mouse domes and lie but a good girl a good friend would tell you always got your back hours. Got Your back in mean on it. That's true the understanding respect boundary. That's what I just talked about a little bit about their family and I'm I'M NOT GONNA ask my girlfriend married to go to. Let's go these Strip was stadium. I'm not GonNa do I just know <hes> uh-huh be using get constructive criticism win needed. I did that be told you face. I said Fab. Does that and you do others. I think you all know each other windows. Who you are will then be okay? We'll get some conversations. which would we do and <hes> pussies thing? Okay keep in touch and make sure you don't drift apart. We don't have to talk everyday everyday but we will be sickening. Honestly like we have lives can me no. It's just a lot because I have sisters who call me every day so I love you sisters but like I don't talk to you every day. Sometimes I just want to myself sometimes I I didn't talk to my other friend that I don't talk to that often well shooting all my friends every day. What would you not get up the on the phone no and also have a relationship and and also the Jackson and also tits career s it was one point? I did feel overwhelmed because it was like one day was like I don't know everyone needed. Something and I felt like I had to meet my white because I'm always if you do for me I do luther younger Rotterdam back to you. It was one day fell soul and exhausted but I got through it <hes> so yeah. This was a interesting topic how big I feel like a better friend just for hearing hearing it before we wrap go gave a few little light tip is your bare frame because doesn't point. I think everyone has had a dose that besides you while your sisters but this is GonNa be Ed France to happen to love each other through the pain okay so signs that you might be a band friend or that you that you might be a bad friend is when you project your own negative qualities onto them so <hes> friends that for example if approach if you happen to be talking about people back or you just want to people that Yep Yep Yep and all the time <hes> you WanNa in you begin to blame others and talk about how they are in. Oh you know some per people projects Swansea. That's not good and then also when you find yourself criticizing blaming them for everything. That's not good either. You you start to feel like nothing is your fault because you always ride you get the big head. Oh Wow yeah. That's everything everything is wrong because of them. That's not good and then you only spend time with them. When you need something that's Metaphor Day? I had that friend to you know what that friend only needed a wing man. That's when I was hanging out with women who were man crazy they were looking for her husband and I guess maybe you just can't be at the bar by yourself so again. I know <hes> you they let me start saying stop saying you say they evade all responsibility leaving you to handle everything from so you got that friend that that wants you to do at all. There's not work involved. There's no camaraderie GIS. I need you get this done for me. <hes> he's me. They never think about how they make. You feel Um. That's important. If you have a friend does not consider your feelings or emotions in his all take. It's all about me and what I want. That's not a good fine. That's how I thought about that time. When I was seven months pregnant with Jackson I had that phone call show but oh we can't go yeah? Sorry go ahead and more you didn't mention but I know the backstory. They have a need to feel like they need to one up you like they try to outgrow everything. She missed I was I do you WANNA friend <hes> and they don't listen to what you have to say a friend. That doesn't listen like what's the point. Why are you here and then they never stick to their word heard? That is the absolute worse. If I can't count on you to do what you say you WANNA do again. These are all reasons. Why you just can't be at my circle to begin? That's now. It's like friend now in associated that's just a no nothing to you. Exactly I think to use okay. That's that's cool. Thank you for giving those people do here. What are some characteristics of Obama friend and I think that's necessary for the two no <hes> I have a quote and I don't know I follow a lot of people in instagram? Some inspirational people from instagram and Marvin sat habits would be another say something about him but he has some good stuff. y'All WanNa follow somebody with some good motivational. Content is Marvin sat in a single Marvez that and they say he had a quota resonated with me and it's this cutting people out of your life doesn't mean you hate them. It's simply means you respect yourself net. Everyone is Mitt to stay Matsu snaps. Yeah I like that that is so poignant and perfect for tonight's topic's because the one thing we didn't really touch on very hard time is running along but it's okay to cut certain friends you know some friends can't continue on his journey with you. You already already hinted at certain people come into your life for a season yes and that's and then you learn whatever you can learn you. Glean whatever you can glean from that experience various moving and I was this big you can keep in contact with facebook. You see the milestones that they get married or baby for their chattel. Whatever but it doesn't necessarily mean that you could be enemies there it? Is You know you could just be cores original. Keep him there. It is Stephen Moment. Let me give you my quote. My quote tonight is from Jim Morrison. <hes> in it says a friend is someone who gives you total freedom to be yourself and especially due to feel or not feel whatever you happen to be feeling at any moment is fine with them. That's what real love amounts to letting person be who they really <hes> that one is that well ladies and gentlemen it has all as always been a pleasure talking about friendship with you guys and also don't forget that we are now live. So we have Emma you can talk to us. You can message us. You can send US questions you can send US comments. Please send us your feedback. 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The Forgotten WM3 /// Part 2 /// 387

"Welcome to garage wherever you are whatever you're doing thanks for listening. I'm your host Nick and with me as always is a man who still has zero toilet paper. He is the captain. But I still have a lot of leaves as good to be seen and it's good to see you. Thanks for listening. Thanks for tone of France all right. I'm excited because we are lucky. Enough to be sipping on cold cans of beautifully crafted. Dortmund Gold. This is a smooth logger. That strikes a delicate balance between sweet mall and dry hop flavours garage. Grade A big five bottle caps and big thanks goes out to our garage beer fund friends. I up cheers to Robin and Alicia in Plymouth New Hampshire and a big shout to Christopher be an parts unknown also in the parts that are unknown. Captain we have Craig F next. We have Kelly and honeybear and Tampa. This of course begs the question. Captain who do you think is sweeter Kelly or honeybear? I think neither I think Justin from a way Australia. Sweeter and last but certainly not least we have amy. And Samir NNA Tennessee. Amy says she has listen to every single episode of True Crime Garage. And if you haven't listened to every episode check us out on the STITCHER APP. You can listen for free every show and we have a bonus show called off the record on stitcher premium and that is enough of the business all right. Everybody gathered around grabbed share. Grab a beer. Let's talk some true crime that one thing that very quickly comes up in most profiles the the level of concealment of the victim of the body often indicates how well known the offender was to the victim. How close the two were related. And where we where we have here. If tying the body post mortem making smaller packages making sure that those packages stay under the water It it really conceals the bodies in it. Somebody taking on added risk to themselves getting caught by taking that time to conceal the bodies in this manner. If it were some maniac from the truckstop he would have done what he wanted to do. And then just fled the area. Exactly right yeah and that. That's a especially when you consider your risk. They were taking again. This was not a remote forest. This person was was doing all that work. Conceal those bodies with semi trucks pulling up in and out of a truck wash hundred feet from them. People playing in their backyards one hundred feet in the other direction they all this happening around them and they're doing and the only reason to do that is typically what. I what I like to say is not necessarily that people know that this individual was with the victims right before they died but that that's individual things people might know that he was with the victims right before they died. So so say. Say Whatever's person acts sees. The boys crossed the piping. Go in there. If Person X. gets out out of their vehicle. You walks across people's yards walk across the pipe which is in broad daylight view of the Mayfair. Apartments walks into the woods then ends up killing the boys in like Oh shit. I don't know if anyone saw me do that. You know if they weren't going there with the intention of killing them which I don't believe they did the so now. They think I think people know that I was with them. So that explains the risk in the concealment in the fact that I've got to make sure when people come here to look that this is not where they find the boys bodies because someone could say. Hey I just saw you go in there and now the bodies are there. I think that's why the lot we see that level of concealment and I. I think that's why we see even the bikes thrown into the by you as part of the concealment because this person needed to have a backup plan as somebody said. Hey I saw you going in there. They say yeah. I was searching. I didn't find him in there. Whereas you know if they find the boys bodies very clearly and quickly and they were there then they're obviously going to get paid for the crime so it's it's it's a way for them to get to put some distance between themselves both both geographic distance and time away from them to delay the the bodies being found so that they can. They're not. They're not known to be the last people with them in that location in it all comes back to there being a personal relationship with them. There's someone that people would expect to be with those boys at that time. Which typically you know someone who knows them now a Lotta people would say in this cast of characters because the investigation like you're you're making all these great points of why it was so or not. Why but the fact that it was such a I am know what the word is. A Shit Storm of an investigation. But you have a individual like the game bojangles. Where what's your after looking into this case now on individually that but I think that there's Mr Bojangles is a is a red herring We we kinda broke down on the podcast during season five about timing and the terrain and then as you'll see on the TV series we actually actually brought in In an ex special forces person that that navigates terrain like that for a living and had them make the actual run that that the bojangles man would have had to make and in ultimately the determination was that. There's just no way that this guy had any connection to the crime whatsoever for for a number of reasons. I mean the blood that was on him. Well there wasn't any blood on the boys way. There were killed a even while we found in from our film in the TV series was the mud There wouldn't have been any model either and you'll see again. The listeners are listening to this. They will have already seen it. And you'll see this weekend. Why that's the case. Is it because you could have done everything from an and not be in the water? No it's because the water so we went and very similar conditions when the water was murky and gross. And the you know you have to cross the water to get across to creeks actually to get to bojangles if you were taking the route from the crime scene to follow the by you all the way down there and we expected our special forces guy to come out covered and caked in mud like Mr bojangles was but when he came out he was perfectly clean. It was because of the water from crossing the by you actually just. It just rinsed all of that mud right off of them and we tried a few things were like. I was at possible. That's just the way that it worked out is once you cross the by you to get into the bojangles you come out no matter how much we mud on him when she came out the other side you're clean so most likely we determined Would you don't necessarily see it on the show but we determined in the process was were? This guy probably came from was from the the the open field to the it would be the south of of the bojangles restaurant. There's a little ditch there and the guy probably stumbled through that ditch on his way to the restaurant in there you can get yourself covered in mud so the the boys are placed in the water for concealment the Bikes to bicycles belonging to two of the boys are placed in the water for concealment is. Well what do in? This might not be important because may have already been left elsewhere beforehand but wasn't Christopher buyers on a skateboard. At some point that evening it was at skateboard ever located or or again. If it's even important to the case I mean he was on a skateboard at some point and it was located. I think it was found Just down the road from his house he was Dad Mark Byers. Excuse me both dad. Mark Byers actually found him writing the skateboard down the middle of the road. That's why he took him home and gave him the weapon. So you know he was off the skateboard. At that point. There was another indication that he was riding an earlier than that riding a skateboard around. With a girl named lakisha Freeman down the road from him. But there's no no indication of him. Being on the skateboard he was punished for it being the bikes though the bikes where they were found helps paint a very clear picture of the profile of her on. Sab which which really is another thing. That should have tipped police off. They were going the wrong way so unless so the boys leave their bikes on the on the ground. South of the by you. They don't. The bikes never crossed the by you with them so they go over there so the killer finds the boys you know where they're at and kills them now presumably. The killer didn't have murder in mind when they went that way. I don't I don't think anybody went cross that pipe thinking. I'm going to kill these three boys right now. I think it just happened out of out of rage or it was you know probably started as a mistake but my point is they wouldn't have thrown the bikes into the by you yet. The bikes got thrown into by you as part of concealment which tells you after the boys were killed in after the boys were put into the water in the crime scenes concealed after that the killer throws the bikes in the water. Which tells you that the killer came and went from the neighborhood not the highway where the West Memphis three came and went from that they were saying right from like the truck. Wa- from the from the highway from over and Marian. The killer had it when when they exited the crime scene when back across the by the by the pipe sees the bikes there in knows. Those bikes are going to be a clear tip off the data. The boys are so they throw the bike into the by you so no one knows to go. Look in that direction and you talked about your test of catering the guy and mud and having him run through Run through the water and so on and so forth. Talk about your the interesting test you did. Regarding was it was a pig or chicken that you did in the in the water down there. Yeah so we this was. This was prior to the filming of the TV series. We did this when I started my investigation Myself and Mike My Co Host and producer and our music. Guy Shane Yoder. Who happens to be from Tennessee? Not far from there. We all spend a week in West Memphis. And you'LL I. I looked at the medical evidence. You know. There's there's the theory out there and it would seems to be pretty much scientific proof proven evidence that most of the the the injuries on the boys came post mortem from animal activity in namely from Turtles. And then people say well. That's crazy that would never happen. And you know the people who believe the West Memphis three or guilty fight that so I wanted to know two things I I wanted to know A. Are there turtles in this by you and be. How will those turtles react to flesh in the by you? So the first thing we did is we went and bought a couple of Just raw chickens tied to ropes setup gopro cameras and he's all right. I'm GONNA throw these in the water. The GOPRO battery will last about four hours. And then we'll come back and pull these out and see what we find. Throw the chickens in the water when we go walking back four hours later we see turtles everywhere. Just scatter this per away from the chicken. Which was pretty shocking. And then we pull the chickens out of the water and there's nothing in four hours was nothing left of those chickens but skeleton and so we we go back and pull the gopro footage ensures shit within twenty minutes of was putting that meet in the water. The turtles start coming in. It's it's all turtle is not big snapping. Turtles like you'd think is a lot of red eared sliders Some snapping turtles several different species. But they they they smell that flesh and go right to it and start ripping off the bone immediately. So what that tells me? Is You know so you can argue whether okay. This was turtles or wasn't turtles. But what I was trying to prove or disprove is. Is it possible to throw flesh into that creek in that by you and not have turtles attack it and the answer is no? We did that test several times in the new eventually went and got We bought a sixty pound pig. A pig in the water so we could have because we couldn't work with the chickens a key. They ate it too fast. Pigs a closer to human flesh and sure enough. We watched them. Do it. Just exactly what we see with. The boys are going for soft areas going for the crotch the inner thighs the face the ears. The turtles were just chomped. Yeah the turtles just chomping and chewing on that pig so you can still try and argue that you know that wasn't animal activity but I will maintain based on what we discovered that is literally impossible to put any kind of meat into that by you and not have turtles attack it and then once we also learned how they feed at one point. We did We put a turtle upstream and downstream of fifty feet. Apart because the theory of the way the boys were positioned in the by you know Chris Buyers in Stevie branch had much more activity. What many more wounds than Michael Will? They were downstream of him. So if they feed by sent my theory was if I put a chicken upstream and one downstream. The one downstream should get more damage than the one upstream. Because they're you know they're they're following the set upstream in the first one they come to is going to get the worst and sure enough. That's what we found that you know if we had to in the water one fifty feet further north than the earth further upstream than the other one the first chicken would get eaten to the bone and only find in that same period of time only a few bites and the one that was further upstream. But if but if you only but one in than that one obviously gets the full brunt of it. So that explains why you have the the emasculation of rematch of Christopher byers the how badly Stevie branches face was chewed up in the inner thighs of buyers and all those injuries were Michael Moore. Didn't sustain much is because the way they feed is they follow the scent upstream when they did that. The first one they came to was Christopher byers a few feet away from him was stevie branch. That's why the feeding frenzy is horrible at his talk about it was occurring. And then you know Michael Moore was still twenty five feet further upstream so not as many made it the other not gonNA leave a viable food source to get to another one. Okay so the and this takes us back again. Bob To the PODCAST. There were some pretty aggressive in have been pretty aggressive allegations against Terry. Hobbs and I'm sure most people are well aware of those and maybe he is one responsible for the deaths of these children. I certainly don't know but part of his alibi or part of the story we've always been told involves another man named David Jacoby. You had some pretty strong opinions of David Jacoby. That you've voiced on your show could you? Could you tell us a little bit more about David Jacoby and your your thoughts on that. Yeah I I actually It's GONNA air here on the PODCAST and the next few weeks I I actually conducted besides my mole trips down to Arkansas to meet with with David and and to have conversations with him and to to convince him to do an interview but I ended up recording about a two hour interview. Actually videoed. It's a rushing and put it on her youtube channel as well It's the only and longest interview with because he's he's been interviewed a little bit here and there. But it's the only full full length interview with David Jacoby. That's ever occurred That we're GONNA put out and I think when when you hear that you see some of it in the series and the TV series but more so when you hear this interview with him you'll you'll realize that this guy had nothing to do with this you know there's the doesn't fit the profile at all. This is a guy he's got seven children You're actually spoke with his ex wife and the biggest complaint. Anybody has with him From the day from his mother and his ex wife or the fact that he was he would never discipline. The kids could never bring himself to harm a kid Even even his own when they're in trouble you know in his his mom and step mom says all. That's why some of the kids are you know getting into trouble because he never disciplined him off But then when you hear everything that David did try to help the defense investigators. It really becomes very apparent that this guy has no idea what happened. Not to mention is the raw motion from him. But you know he one thing that I like to cite that a lot of people don't realize David Jacoby actually allowed himself to be hypnotized to try to help remember. This was part of Amy Berg's team. That did the West Memphis. He was working with with John Douglaston. You know he's he's very emotional about it. He was very close with Stevie and he wants to know what happened. He has a hard time believing that Terry would have anything to do with it. Until of course they're trying to get them to trace down time line and they said well would you agree to be hypnotized? And he's A. Yeah whatever whatever it takes so imagine if this is a guy that actually had some knowledge of the crime do you know how do you think about how dangerous it would be for that person to let themselves be hypnotized in interviewed about it? There's just there's just no way There's there's a lot of other things that he did to try to help along the way you know. He wore a wire he led US phone be tapped to have conversations with Terry. Hobbs had to try and determine. If Terry had anything to do with it. I don't think he realized that the time that they were you know they were also trying to figure out if David had anything to do with it and he really. Kinda got left hung out to dry with west of Memphis. You know it was. It was It made better. Tv FOR THEM TO PUT OUT. You know there's the the hair the hair found on the stump that they they call the Jacoby hair that you know. His hair was found in the crime scene to But they did. They put it out a little bit but they didn't really narrow it down as much as they should have for the viewers to digest the fact that that was a hair was found on the crime scene in a public place six weeks after the crime that was discovered by law enforcement and it matches like I don't remember like seven percent of the population of the world essentially if you take the the odds of that belonging to any particular individual intake the amount of people that we know for a fact round the crime scene the I don't remember the number but it was it was it was several. It'd be something like nine of the people that were at the crime scene that hair. What are they also couldn't have been excluded from it so it was with what ended up doing is it ruined the guy's life you know he. He ended up. You know he would go to the grocery store and people would throw. He's he told me a story about someone throwing a head of lettuce at him at the at the Walmart when he's trying to buy groceries calling him a child killer spray painting child killer on his on his car. They ran him out of West Memphis which is really sad. Because when you talk about the west of Memphis the documentary one of the things that always stuck out to me about David is when he's telling the story about how the stevie would be doing. Something and Terry would be getting angry. Keep that up. I'm going to bust your but I think he talks about marbles or something and he would talk and it seems like this would be occurrence that happened multiple times. Where Stevie is getting on? Terry Ho Hobbes's nerve and then David would kind of come to the rescue while I talk to Stevie if I play with Stevie then Terry Hobbs will get his focus off of Stevie right and I. I don't think that once we ere are my full interview with him especially the video version of it. Anybody that can watch that and watch. This man struggled through his emotions and what he went through and how desperate he is to find out who killed those boys. If you can watch that and still say that you think he had anything to do with this than more power to you. Because I can't I mean I'm I might I would. I would let David Jacoby Babysit my kids any day of the week. He's he's he's an extremely kind man dedicated father dedicated grandfather and and they're just absolutely no way. He had anything to do with this now as far as west of Memphis documentary. What what do you make of the Hobbs family secret? It's it's hard to put any weight into that It made good TV. Maybe it's true. I mean certainly that you know that. That guy came forward with that information but I think there's just too much at stake. You know there was there. Were offering such a big big reward. 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What is interesting though in regards to somebody like Terry Hobbs or maybe even John Mark. Byers is some of the injuries to the boys. Which I I get gets a little dicey when you're trying to look through all of this because we do know that there there may have been marks and bite marks and and different things that that occurred to the the bodies after the fact but some of this appears to be reactionary and what Mar Leverett pointed out and I believe it was an article in the Arkansas Times in nineteen ninety four. This is still when a lot of the area really believed these teenagers. Did this she points out. In a in a wonderfully written article about the the criminal Problems that buyers and Terry. Hobbs ran into and some of that in regards to Terry. Hobbs shows signs of abuse on other people. And that's where I have a hard time I go. I go back to the injuries of reactionary. And what you said earlier about. There's no reason to believe that the person went into those woods with the intent to kill but may have reacted to something. It went too far. And maybe now I have to I. I've I've accidentally killed this one boy and now I need to kill these other two boys. Yeah I mean that. That's my theory of exactly. My theory would happen that there was probably a punishment of some kind that that went too far. And then now you got two witnesses and I mean it takes a sociopath of not a psychopath To then turn onto to innocent eight year old kids in intentionally kill them But it's the only way that crime scene make sense to me. What do you make of Mark Byers passing the lie detector? I'd only matters honestly and that's you know if you look at. There's a lot of people. There's still a lot of people we had people that were you. Actively involved with our investigation on our facebook page There are groups and stuff that work on a friend of the show during this case that knew the case. Really well that eventually. Just Kinda got pissed off and wouldn't talk to me anymore because I didn't agree with them. That Mark Byers is a likely suspect. But the thing about Mark Byers is. He's allied. I think nick mentioned it earlier. He's allied one hundred percent through the entire time and I interviewed someone that no one's ever heard from before that you would have seen on the show or you're going to see in the show this weekend and that's Ryan Clark. Who's Chris Byers Brother and you know he was? I'll tell you right now. He does not like Mark Byers. He's even told me that he thinks Mark Byers had something to do with it but then when he walks me through the day he is so forget everything. We know up till six o'clock so at five thirty Mark Finds Chris. Writing the skateboard on the middle of the road. Grabs him take some home. That's when he gives them the spanking and makes them clean under the carport. That's confirmed by by Chris's Mother Melissa buyers. She told police the same thing that he came home. He got the weapon. He was cleaning under the carport. Mark Leaves to go pick up Ryan at court in Ryan says that's exactly what happened and then the thing was Ryan explained to me when they got home. How that went down a mind you. He doesn't like mark in part of and believes Marcus on the do with it because he just he thinks he's a mark was abusive and didn't like Chris but he he told me the story of coming home and walking inside and they were going to go to dinner and mark comes in and wants to know where Chris is at. He's mad because Chris was supposed to be cleaning the carport Ryan witnessed his mother's say he's outside. I just saw him in March like you'll he's not out there and she will will. Maybe he's upstairs and Ryan goes upstairs and looks and they start looking around the neighborhood and from that point forward mark was with either Brian or Melissa or both throughout the entire rest of the evening. Bye they're searching so it it it it. It seems to me impossible for someone to think that it will. What kind of theory could you have about when he found him and killed him if when he comes home with Brian Melissa his wife? And Chris's mom says while you were gone with Ryan. I saw Chris outside. So we know Chris's home alive and save at that point when he gets home. Chris has already gone. So there's just there's no way to to make Mark Myers fit into the suspect pool. And then he's actively looking for Chris with another person throughout the entire evening and night. That's what one thing we were able to do on. Our show was just point out. There's just no time for him to have done this. And he's also the one that's like raising the the flags here the he's sounding the alarm bells because I think they're out driving around and he stops and talks to an officer and says hey my kids. We can't find him. We were supposed to go to dinner. He was supposed to be home. We've been out looking for. We can't find him anywhere. Should I report a missing and I believe that officer says you know it's it's still it was still maybe twilight at that time? I guess and we still got a little bit of daylight left. And so why don't you just you know? Take it easy. He'll probably turn up. If if an hour or so from. Now you still feel the same way call it in and I. And he's the one that phones the police at a what about eight o'clock. I think it was around that here. Too to notify the Chris's missing and on top of. He seems clueless. That two other boys are missing because Michael Moore's mother comes across the street and then says To the officer. Yeah I my. My son is missing as well. I haven't seen him since this time. And when you really start putting together the timeframe of these possible and I I do want to stress this though. These possible eyewitness accounts of having seen the boys. Because I don't know that I fully believe every single one of them and we all know from doing this for a long time. That eyewitness accounts are are pretty unreliable in general but I do believe that some of these sightings occurred and that they that they were correct. And I'm not going to Willy Nilly pick which ones are right and wrong but it doesn't allow for the time line for anything to for mark buyers to have done anything to Chris. Let alone the other two boys as well it just. It just doesn't fit. It's it's damn near impossible right and the only way you know. There's a theory called the manhole theory out there and there. There's a bunch of different crazy theories that you know. He wrote a boat down the by you late night to put the bodies in there and it just it just it just in my opinion those those are just not possible. You know like I said you know that that doesn't make any sense at all He just march is and I've met mark. I interviewed him. You hear from important. Bit on the podcast During season five. But you know he's you know he's changes story a few times. He's a very dynamic guy. He's not you can tell by his pass. He's not a great guy. We rubs a lot of people the wrong way and so I think he you know people love to hate him but the same time you know I it to me. That's no different the Damien echols. You know people will say well Damian Change Story. He was a liar. And he was a Satan worshipper. Like wow you know. Even if he was a liar. And even if he was a Satan worshipper that still doesn't mean that he killed those boys. There's still no evidence that he actually killed la-z-boys well and that's what's funny too is when people look at these different cast of characters as the captain has called them and says well. This person has changed their story. This person has changed their story. That's why I don't like him. The police have changed their story. The whole time and changed other people story to fit their narrative. And then you have people that still believe that the three of them did it. I mean you have you know you mentioned the Hollingsworth earlier but we have. We have two people that in captain will what else. What else evidence do we have in regards to Damien echols? Well a problem for echoes that he ran into at trial. Is We have the Hollingsworth clan. Who Says I saw Damien echols and dominy tear out and they were dirty. They were muddy and it was. It was late at night on the night that the boys were killed and then the police have to change that that story a little bit themselves and they said you know Jason Baldwin. Well he's he's a smaller guy. He's short he's thin. He's got long hair. That you probably saw Damian with with Jason Baldwin. And you're mistaken. It wasn't dominates here right even though. Gnarliest nope I know my niece. I know for sure that was her but they still present that as evidence that that he saw Jason. Not to mention their whole story of there being I think at one point ended up being like nine or twelve people in that little hatchback as the story progresses and they're reporting different times to like I believe there's the one of the witnesses like an hour and a half difference from from one of the other ones. They they set. They probably sat together. Came up with some kind of story because again it's the reward money that's fueling some of of this confusion around the case. This case was a perfect situation. It was it was just the wrong set of circumstances in the wrong set of people to create this chaos. Because you've got a complicated case. That's while it was made complicated and then and then you have all of these people you know. Their emotions are running high. Everybody wants to solve the case. And then you throw this big fat reward out to a whole bunch of poor people and just into thrown fire on gasoline it just it just ignites but when you're talking about the victimology it seems like you. You believe you learned a couple of things one that these murders took place by one single individual. You gave us the reasons you believe for that. You also believe that this person was connected to the boy's somehow but also connected to that neighborhood somehow. You gave us your evidence. Reasons of those. Is there any other things that you guys have come to conclusions about the profile of this murder there was a big reveal? I've worked with retired. Fbi Profiler Jim Clemente for about five years now and he's been kind of a mentor to me and and I think it had a pretty good job profiling. The crime scene hit his profile and mine were pretty close actually once he finally did his But Jim is an expert for a reason. And what you'll you will see in the TV series. Is Jim Catching something? That I never caught before and I. I guess it doesn't necessarily. This may not answer your question but it's interesting along those same lines When he was was going through all the evidence with with Terry Hobbs. You know what his time line what we have verifiable and the fact that Terry called the police from cafes island when he picked pam up Which we knew that is what happened. Not till nine o'clock. He calls the police and reports a missing and then has the police meet him there. I was you know. That's we always thought how. Obviously this guy must not have a big concern. Why did he waits along to call the police and Jim watched it in watch. I watch a light bulb. Go off in his head and you'll have seen that on the TV series when he tells me to hit pause and said wait a minute. He called from Catholic Ireland and he didn't go home. He waited that he met them in the parking lot there. I hadn't thought much of and he's like why wouldn't they go home? Pam's son is missing. His Stepson is missing there waiting for him to go home. They're terrified. Where would you WANNA be in that situation at home right waiting for him to come home and he says this guy didn't want the police in his house that in an Jim just I mean just poignantly? That is a red? There's a huge red flag. This guy was calculated for some reason. Terry Hobbs. The evidence seems to indicate did not want to meet the beliefs at his house did not want the police at his house and that's why he waited to call a catfish island and that's why he stayed at catfish island to take report instead of telling them to meet him back at the House. that doesn't necessarily answer your question about the profile but it it just. That's where my mind went when you said that when I think your mind also can go to the idea that if if my son was missing and I call the police. I'd say all while meet US back at the House. 'cause maybe he showed up. But if you're responsible for these murders you would know that They're not gonNA show up right exactly right if you If you've seen at this point and again you haven't seen the show yet but you've seen some of the trailers and if you you see a little bit of that moment on describing the trailers and then you you also see me sitting at a desk looking at the sky with tears in my eyes trying to compose myself. That was that was that moment. When all of a sudden it occurred to me what Pam. Hobbs must have been going through when she was forced to sit and stay at Catfish Island and wait for the police when her son was missing and she couldn't get home to see if he was there. When there's a lot of thought to that he never wanted to call police that he only did so because Pam questions him when he arrives to pick her up well did. Did you call the police? And he says No. And then you're right. It's very calculated for him to deterrent to decide to call them there. You know to to end her worry by phoning the police. But I'm going to do it here right now and stay here as you said. That's very interesting. Yeah the staying. Here was the big part because I've heard people say well maybe their phone wasn't working or whatever and he and other interviews has said they did have a working phone but yeah the staying here is is is the big thing. That's why why not go home and I and it just. I never thought about it in that context until Jim brought that up. And it's I've had a hard time letting go of it ever since and I like the fact that you brought up when I was looking at the trailer. There's this moment that you just talked about where I was like. Wait it was Bob Teary eyed. Because we've hung out Several Times a crime Khan and fun events so we're always upbeat and it's good to see. Everybody and I saw this clip and I went. Wow I think this gets really emotional. But I also think it's important with these cases to have people that are emotional about the cases and that that that these cases actually matter to them and it's just not somebody collecting a paycheck to investigate a crime for TV on. And that's one of the main reasons. I'm very excited to check this. Did you want to call it documentary? The DOCU series. Yeah you're going to. You're definitely GONNA see some emotion out of me that I wasn't thrilled about you know that I'm on on. You're GonNa see me on camera cry and a couple of times Which of course he won't be in the Big Tub burly man that I am wasn't wasn't thrilled with but it's the reality you know the this Docu series. It's taking you the viewers along with me while I'm doing the investigation into get to see what that really looks like. You get to see what it looks like when I sit down in called an interview but I'm speaking with someone who lost their child who lost their brother and it just it wears. I'll tell you as you know. We filmed for about three months. And as the there was definitely a fatigue factor just so much sadness and so much hurt and pain that it got to be. You know a lot of a lot of the interviews and stuff we've filmed later on. I'm just I'm I'm kind of a wreck because it is it is weighs on me so much. I just so badly want to find the truth for these people and finally find some justice now bob. They're they're obviously a lot of question. Marks in regards to Terry Hobbs but are is there anybody else any other persons any other people in the eyes of Bob Ross should be persons of interest in why there are a few others But we really determined throughout the course of this the filming of the TV series and are active investigation last year is when we filmed it was this case is only GonNa be solved one way in. That's through science there. Were not going to solve this case by by interviewing more people by finding more witnesses there. Everybody's is too much time has passed. There's too much motivation. There's been too much motivation with money. And with media and memories of shifted. There's too much drug use and too much alcoholism and and too many people with agendas stories are changing but we have breaks in science. We have new technology that can actually solve this case. And that's what is GonNa come down just doesn't necessarily matter who the person of interest are. It doesn't necessarily matter if you think Terry Hobbs did it or didn't do it. I'm not saying if he did or didn't I don't know but I I'll tell you that he's someone that I think needs further investigation and what it's going to take is to convince. Scott Ellington the district attorney that that holds the keys. He's the gatekeeper. To the evidence to release the evidence and allow us to use new technology and science to test it and that is what is going to solve the case and that is the only thing that is going to finally solve this case well in the statistics. Show this to be true. The younger a victim. The more likely that they ha- has to be someone on their inner circle in these victims. Were all three eight years old. If you take a victim. That's one or two. It's almost somebody inside the household because the younger you are the smaller. Your social circle is you. Don't have that much going on in your life and the interesting thing here is with these with these three victims with the three boys. You're really not talking about a whole lot of circles because you you probably looking for the common themes throughout them when you talk about victimology okay. They went to the same school. They lived in the same neighborhood. They they were in the same All three of them were in cub scouts. I believe and then you also have the. Because they're all three friends Just their immediate families in general I if feels to me like this killer is known to the kids and there's a lot of evidence to suggest that it's got to be somebody in one of those circles. Yeah I agree and I think that the the the bigger the saddest part about this whole case is that the West Memphis. Police didn't do their job on day. One I think I think all of this mystery I. Most of us would have never heard about this case. I think it would have been easily and quickly solved. Had they done their job on day one they did bad. Police work to begin with but they also were not skilled in in a homicide or the homicide of three children but but the thing that always fascinates me with these smaller police departments. That can't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. They turned down assistance from from agencies. That no better. That know what they're doing. I mean we have statements of the state police saying that. No they didn't want our help down there and in West Memphis in the as you pointed out the FBI tried to get involved. Yeah it's sad you know. I worked in government for a long. I was a firefighter for for sixteen years So I worked alongside with You know a lot of police officers and law enforcement. But I'll just tell you that the there's definitely a marking of territory that goes on and all that is the same thing that the fire service you know I. I've been at fires where we need help. We don't have enough people. We have enough enough apparatus. And so you know I you know when I was in my younger years in the fire service I achieved call for mutual aid. Asked the neighboring town to come over here and help us which they would happily do and you had this mentality where we're talking early. Two thousands now not not terribly far removed from this case where you know they would. A house would end up burning down because they refuse to call for help because they didn't want to admit to another municipality the needed their help you know that that culture luckil- luckily and thankfully changed over the course of my career and of course from I was the chief by the end so I was the one that got to make those decisions But it was the same thing in law enforcement. I think a lot of what you see. It's just it's just people pissing on fire hydrogen. Oh this is this is my territory and I don't need you coming in here to tell me how to do my job but the saddest part about it is besides that even is. This case was made more complicated than it. Actually was that West Memphis police department had certainly didn't dealt with homicides before but this was a right a triple homicide of children this is different and that's the problem is they looked at it like it was different but they needed to do was investigated the same way investigate every other case in had they done that. I think that we would have a resolution very quickly after the boys bodies were found and obviously we all still have the question of who did this. What questions do you still have about the case you know? That's I think that's the only one that's left for me. I mean there's a lot of minutia I mean you can get in. I mean every the Callahan website is one of the greatest resources ever made available for any true crime case. Ever you know literally you can go through every single document in the case in that and and and what's not on their I've I've viewed and copied myself when I went into the DA's office to go through their files. So I've looked at all and certainly there are million unanswered questions but it kind of goes back to what I mentioned earlier. That what what I've realized is. There's not going to be a glaring answer in those files. There's not GonNa be a glaring answer in a new witness. You know we. We found new witnesses. You're going to hear from people this weekend that you've never heard from before but that's not what's going to solve the case that was going to solve the case is going to have to be forensics so my big question is who did it. The answer is sitting right there in front of you in all we need to do collectively as as as a people on both sides of this is just want. The truth is to force. That issue is to convince Scott Ellington in the state's attorney's office to allow the evidence to be tested and allow us to find the truth. Look when you watch west of Memphis you just want US strangled the guy. They're basically saying look. We have enough evidence to convict these guys. But there's resources and then he even said that he has even dove into all the evidence so when he makes that statement he's basically telling the community we believe. These three individuals are responsible for murdering three eight year old children. And we're going to release them to the public the to me that that's the most bullshit I've ever seen like if you actually thought that these three individuals killed these three eight year olds you would never release them to the community ever because there are always be a threat to the children. All they did was. We want you to Omit that you're guilty of the crime so you can't sue us for the time that we made you serve bright it's the Alford plea is it's one of the worst pieces of our criminal justice system and it's not what it was ever intended to be. You know it was essential the Alford plea came from a case. Where you know the the you weren't allowed to plead guilty to something if you were innocent. That makes sense. So that's where that that's where that came from was a guy that was like well. I'll plead guilty to take this deal. But I didn't do it while the judge was not allowed to accept that plea. This ruling came in to where they said. Okay well for this. Circumstance will allow you to plead guilty but still maintain your innocence and then that got turned into what we now known as the Alford plea where prosecutors offices use it as a as a punt is an easy way out to say. Okay well I'll dangle your freedom in front of you you can go home and not have any more risk of being a prison but you have to plead guilty and be convicted murderer for the rest of your life in order for that to happen and that way. I get to say we got the right guys. I don't have to further investigate this. Because look they pled guilty when I see Stevie Branch Christopher Byers Michael Moore these three eight year. Old Victims are victims multiple times their victims One of abuse than their victims. They're murdered than their victims in the sense that the whole case becomes about three other victims a then then they become victims again by by the courts not standing up and saying that we we believe that these individuals are guilty. If you if you thought they were guilty you would never left. Let them out. But you let them out you have them make a plea where now the case is closed and in the eyes of the law. They're not gonNA investigate this anymore so it were never going to know. Well that's what we're hoping to change with it and invisible a lot of what I keep saying about the Ellington. The forensic evidence will make a lot more sense after this weekend when you see when you see the series but you know we we've discovered there's there's new technology out there that you know. We went to California to meet with Forensic DNA specialists that used the Mbacke. Dna collection technique. And the doctor. She's convinced that if you give me this evidence I can tell you who did it. And we can't get got Ellington to pull his head out of the San Long enough to allow that testing to be done well but it's all going to take public pressure and that's my only argument against Baldwin. Echols and Miskelly is that you stated in a documentary that you could do more once you get out and if this is true like you said that there's evidence that can be tested. These three individuals should be yelling from the rooftops and using their platforms to get the community behind this to to stir Possibly some movement. Because like he's like I said if there's no public pressure normally nothing gets done while and that's what you're going to see this weekend is all three of them asking for this. Dna testing and that's the reason why Damien and Jason Participated in the in the DOCU series. They're not making any money off of this or anything. They're a part of it because they believe that process here in our investigation could actually lead to the truth in and actually figure out who killed three little boys. That's why they agreed to participate. And there's only one person that's holding up that testing right now and it's not Damian is not. Jason is not Jesse. They've all said they're all four at. There's only one person stopping this case from being solved and that Scott Ellington whatever struggles. You're facing from depression and anxiety. Trauma and grief better help can connect you with a professional counselor and a safe and private online environment so convenient. You can schedule a secure or phone session as well as chat and texts with your therapist and anything that you shares completely confidential. Besse vase truly affordable option. 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The Hunter Biden E-mail Conundrum

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The Hunter Biden E-mail Conundrum

"You have taken blood money. Blood money to go out and you hundred to do your drugs and all your depravity would it's all going to come out and living color. Okay. All going to come out and living color that money sir was stolen from the Chinese people and slave labor remember that stolen from them. That was Steve Bannon claiming there is more damaging information coming about Hunter Biden and his dealings in China the claims by Bannon Donald. Trump's former campaign chief who is now under indictment on fraud charges brought by federal prosecutors in. New. York come after a series of New York post stories revealing purported e mails by the Democratic candidates son about his overseas business deals in Ukraine and China while his father was vice president. Are. These stories the smoking gun that trump allies claim or are they part of a Russian influence operation? We'll discuss with two top intelligence experts, Shane Harris of the Washington Post and Matt Olsen the former chief counsel to the National Security Agency. And we'll talk to a former top twitter executive Vivian Schiller, about the social media giant's controversial decision to restrict access to the new. York Post Stories on this episode of skulduggery. Because people have gotta know whether or not their president's across I'm not across I told the American people I did not trade arms hospital, my heart, and my best intentions still tell me that's true. But the facts and the evidence tell me it is not I did not have sexual relations with that one will be no lies. We will honor the American people with the Truth and nothing else. I'm Michael ISIKOFF chief investigative correspondent for Yahoo News and I'm Dan Kleinman editor in chief of Yahoo News. So once again, we have dueling narratives from the media on the one hand the mainstream media, The Washington Post New York Times CNN. Rang that there's a Russian, a likelihood that this is a Russian influence operation that brought these Hunter Biden. Light, and then you have the conservative media claiming as I said in the intro that these are a smoking gun that demands answers from the Biden camp and I've got to say right now whether or not it's a smoking gun the emails if true do raise some intriguing questions but we don't know the answer as to the authenticity of the emails and we certainly don't know precisely how they came to light and all that has given a lot of people pause when this story broke late last week I think. We sort of impulsivity were really critical of the social media companies because of this idea that you know here's a story that's out there that we don't know whether it's accurate or not. We don't know as you say, the authenticity of these emails, but we don't know that it's not true and so for a social media company to basically shut it down and limit or ban access to it. So people can't send the links around kind of I think struck us as. Concerning, but as you think about sort of context here it is complicated. We're you know two weeks out from an election in an era when information spreads so rapidly and is weaponized. So easily that you know makes you realize these things are a little more complicated than maybe it seems the I plus and I mentioned very quickly. We have a new Yahoo News YouGov poll out and there was a to me just a stunning piece of data in there that I think goes to the larger problem here that makes this complicated half of trump's supporters believe that top democratic politicians. Are Involved in an elite child sex trafficking ring and that trump is trying to break it up. That is that is the Cuban. That is the core of the Cunanan conspiracy theory, and so it just makes you realize how serious this information problem is, and I think that twitter did not handle this. Well, we will get into that with Vivian Schiller, but I also am somewhat sympathetic to the position that they in these social media companies are in because this is not easy stuff to deal with they are caught in the middle there also caught between liberals and conservatives and. I don't know I. Think this is GonNa go on for a long time until they figure out some some principles and rules to abide by. All right. Well, we got some excellent guests to talk about it. So let's get right to it. We are now joined by two of our favorite guests when it comes to all matters of intelligence and counterintelligence Shane Harris the. Accomplished intelligence reporter for the Washington Post and Matt Olsen former director of the national counterterrorism center former general counsel. It'd the NSA an informal adviser to the Biden Campaign Shane and Matt Welcome back to skulduggery, and it's great to be back to be. A lot of interest of course in this hunter. Email. Story that has caused quite a controversy in the last weeks of the campaign. Now, you had an important story of your own the Washington Post last week about how president trump had been warned by his national security. Adviser Robert Ryan that Russian intelligence was targeting Rudy Giuliani who of course appears to have been the source for the Hunter Biden email story. Tell us what you learned. So. What we found was back in December early December of two thousand, Nineteen Rudy Giuliani while he was off in Ukraine meeting with pro Russian Ukrainian former lawmakers. In this part has been reported was trying to dig up jerk on Joe Biden may remember he met this guy named Andre Kosh who he said had a lot of good information about corruption and Burris. Mun Joe Biden and Hunter Biden all of that stuff that was at the core of the impeachment hearings. What we found is the US intelligence officials were aware of these meetings were intercepting communications on the foreign side that showed that these Russian assets essentially were trying to funnel disinformation back to the White House via rudy rudy was not an unwitting participant in this as it's been described us, he was over there looking for this information trying to find people look get it to him, and this sets alarms at the upper reaches of the intelligence community and the national security leadership because here's the president's personal lawyer meeting with these individuals known to be working on behalf of Russia. And trying to obtain information that could be damaging to the president's political adversaries. So you've got both a counterintelligence intelligence problem kind of like classically right there but also a real political issue because the president is about to be impeached in the house and his top advisers are terrified that he's gonNA listen to rudy. Here's some new things about Hunter Joe Biden, and go out as they put it to us and say something stupid and politically damage himself even more of an. Already was. So the decision is made send in Robert O'Brien national security advisor to say to the President Look you can't trust what's coming from Rudy. Giuliani we know he's your lawyer. You're going to do what you want, but you need to understand he's being as they put it worked by Russia assets in Ukraine and you need to have this information if you're gonNA listen to him trump as we're told the meeting goes sort of shrug off shrugs his shoulders and says, that's Rudy. What are you gonNA do and O'Brien walks out of that meeting not at all sure whether he got through to the president. Giuliani is at the White House about a week later, and then sometime after that meeting with the President Mar-a-lago and I think it's safe to say that the president's belief that there is a hunter Biden. Joe Biden Barista conspiracy has not abated even after having gone through impeachment. Quick follow up for Shane and then want to bring Matt into this but just tell us a little bit more about Andre, your cash and call him an asset as a Russian spy. I mean what? What is his role? What do we know about them and how sure is the US intelligence community of of that? So dare cash is formerly a member of the. Party of regions in Ukraine, which is this now defunct political party that it was the kind of Pro Russia party within Ukraine, by his own account, his father was a KGB officer in their cauti-, went to KGB affiliated school his sort of Russian connections in sympathies I think have been pretty well known to people who follow that are the world for some time the. Labeling of him as a Russian asset is now unofficial matter of record into forums actually won the director of National Intelligence Office in August put out a statement on foreign election interference which identified their Cauti- as a conduit for disinformation from Russia that was meant to as they put it denigrate Joe. Biden in harm his campaign and then more recently the Treasury Department is. Actually, sanctioned their cash for these election interference activities and labeled him in their words a Russian asset. Now, that doesn't mean that he is like an employee of the GRU. This means that he somebody who works on behalf of Russian interests and is the telling community sees it is no wittingly doing the bidding of Russian intelligence services. Now, how far that goes up to? Move Putin himself directing it I'm not sure we know that but notably the Treasury statement they said that he's been acting in this capacity for years. So I think what this tells us in our reporting corroborates this there's essentially kind of an intelligence file going back some time on their caution. So I think that the intelligence community is confidence that he works for Russia is quite high. So Matt from Your Perspective and background with the US intelligence community having worked as the top lawyer the NSA. What does this tell us about how we should look at the emails? The reporting that the New York Post has put out there about hunter, Biden and his business dealings in Ukraine and China? I, mean I think. The really remarkable reporting from chain his colleagues at the Washington Post is part of a broader story here and largely corroborates the concern about Russian disinformation activities up to the twenty two, thousand election year, I think the way the intelligence community will be looking at this Mike is, is this consistent with what we have seen from Russia in the past? Is this consistent with? Their objectives near the answer to that is yes. Their objectives in two thousand, sixteen in into twenty, twenty by. Sort of unanimous consensus of the intelligence community is to interfere with the election into sow discord in discontent and In this case, twenty, twenty two to denigrate Joe Biden. Consistent with their objectives, it's also consistent with the types of activities the means by which they see to attain those objectives, and now they have the we have the story from the Washington Post showing that you know that they're using somebody like the president's personal lawyer as a conduit for this information so I think. The broader picture here is one that all kindness fits well together and I think help to corroborate the the reports that we're seeing from. Okay. I want to drill down though on two phrases here that you've both use Russian influence operations and Russian disinformation. Now, influence operations go back to two thousand and sixteen clearly the release of predestine emails in the DNC emails. That was at Russian influence operation. We Now know the Russians hacked, them funneled them to wikileaks wikileaks released them for the purpose of influencing the American electorate. But. It wasn't a disinformation operation because those emails were in fact authentic and real. And, I heard you both using both phrases. But when it comes to the Hunter Biden emails that the New York Post has released. It's not clear to me whether this is an influence operation or a disinformation operation because I have not seen where the Biden campaign or Hunter Biden's lawyer has challenged the authenticity of these emails. So I'd like you both to address whether or not. We're looking at a potential influence operation or a disinformation Operation Matt WanNa take that first and then chain. Very quickly I mean I might is rewarded is doing between those two things and. Sixteen of A. Operation with the hacking releasing of emails that we saw disinformation, right? Through through trolls and even state media. Russian. State media that was a disinformation campaign overseeing both. Permission now for sure in twenty twenty match I, think you know on these emails December by emails we don't know a authentic are not i. think there is the reason that we both talked about reasons to dour. Authenticity. Gamons. Russian also given what's been concluded wouldn't it wouldn't be easy for the hundred Biden's lawyer come out and say look we have the originally males. These are not real. These are not authentic and I have not heard them say that. I want to answer that but let me just suggest one possibility here which may be Shane wants to pick up on which is. I think in classic disinformation operations, they may dump emails or documents where some of it is real and some of it isn't real right? I mean. So that way it becomes harder in this particular case for the Biden campaign, they don't wanNA start parsing email. Sales. Take much to discredit those emails by just showing one of them has been doctored chain. Well, it's. Just pick up on Mike and Dance Point. Biden's laptop. You'd think they could come out and just say that I mean. So there's a question about that. Do I agree with you that if the campaign thought that there was a way to neutralize this story by declaiming any of this information, you would think they would have done it by now unless they calculating that somehow this is just gives the story more oxygen and to be clear I don't have any insight into that but then you know you're absolutely right there's this distinction between influence operation disinformation. There's even a third category which I think we used in Rudy Star, which is misinformation, which is where you're taking something that May. Be Ostensibly true or have a kernel of truth Mr to skewing people in a different direction or you're spinning them. I think that the word of the terminology is really important because it gets back to like what exactly if anything or the Russians trying to do here and what we noted in in the rudy story where he's off looking for this information on the Biden and the president warned about it is we can't connect that to the laptop right now. But the category of information that Rudy is interested in finding from these Ukraine sources with Russian connections is the same category or flavor of material if you like that's being leaked by. Early to the post in. So you know if you take it as the Rudy in Ukraine business, a is the product of some kind of Russian influence operation in that, they're trying to get stuff into his hands to put back into the political bloodstream. Here it may be that be is something that the Russians are that is posts are thrilled to see but potentially had nothing really to do with other than sort of priming Rudy's you know kind of fertile mind to this possibility of. Burris. Matt conspiracy back in December when they got him all juiced up about tapes and other kind of information I should point out that Radcliffe. The director of National Intelligence did go on Fox business today and say that there is no intelligence that suggests that the hunter Biden emails are part of a Russian intelligence operation for whatever that's worth. That is the official comment of the Director of national. Intelligence. But on a drill down, even more on the Hunter Biden story I mean, there's so many. Sort of odd wacky elements to this the official account from the New York Post is that the laptop gets dropped off at the computer repair guy in Wilmington who's apparently legally blind but somehow notices that this is from Hunter Biden's foundation or has some connection the hundred Biden, and he's able to open it up and then provides to the the rudy. Giuliani who provides the New York Post, and the FBI and Hundred Biden never comes back and picks it up. Obviously there's lots of red flags here. But Shane from what we know at this point is this story not credible dubious or might actually be what happened I mean I think it might actually be what happened in its you know fishy as hell at. The same time there is this you laid out the sequence of purported events very well in a in a sort of you know strings the imagination even think about like the blind computer store owner in the laptop being dropped off I mean, it sounds sort of farcical but now Rudy Giuliani's lawyer is on record saying that this computer store owner gotten touch. With Rudy Giuliani and that's how they became aware of the information. Okay. That's fairly checkable statement. But what's interesting to me all of this and this is where I think it gets very fishy. Is this computer store owner who she we should say is both a supporter of the president and is on record both journalists. Any thought that the impeachment was a sham? And was trying to get this information to the authorities. He says because he wanted it to come up in the impeachment as a sort of point of of Sculpture Tori evidence for the president to show that know Joe Biden really is as corrupt as they say, there's this weird gap in time between that and when he purportedly gets in touch with Rudy Giuliani and that is like the sort of Lakota now that he will not talk about he doesn't WanNa say how he got in touch with rudy he says, he has some interlocutors you won't say who they are. You won't say exactly when it is and. You know that is the point where I think a lot of the suspicion is sort of driving out which is as as positive of Russia being involved but you've got this sort of squishy area and a guy like rudy. Giuliani was his track record. In this kind of you know a little mysterious computer store owner that because that's the part where we're still asking questions. But to me, that's the very important part like what motivates this owner to get in touch with Rudy Giuliani and who is sort of in the circle when that is happening and you know and also had a Steve Bannon get involved by. Stuff we still don't know. Yeah I mean there are. Right for this story, one seed band pleasing brought charges other. Is Out digging up this information in Ukraine to help us crime so I'm glad people like Shane another dean into the details of this figure out. How, if there isn't a credibility to it but since just on his face, you've been away today I was reading the and your host, some of the question about who was going to sign off on the story quite in terms of putting your name on the byline raise questions about well, and one of them who was willing to had been had been a producer for Sean Hannity right and the veteran reporter from the New York Post who I think has been there since two, thousand, seven who. His name be taken off it. So that is also also I mean. Just in terms of journalism here, setting aside whether the underlying facts are true at all. It was pretty appalling for one thing. They never sought comment apparently from the Biden campaign, which is a pretty fundamental thing if you're. Accusing them of these kinds of things and then secondly and I think this actually goes to the whole controversy over why twitter refused to allow to share. The New York Post story on their platform is that the New York Post did not delete any of the personal information on these emails that did identify hundred Biden and others. So there's that part of the narrative as well. There are two other pieces of this that we me as. On. The other side of you know whether we should be taking some of this more seriously. I is that FBI subpoena. What is that all about at some point I believe Jane correct me if I'm wrong it's December of last year the FBI takes possession. Of this laptop with a subpoena that suggests they are investigating something related to this and again for what it's worth Radcliffe said today it's not Russian. Disinformation. That's what Radcliffe although although NBC I think Kendall I think reported. that. An investigation related to this. And Influence of an influence operation. Yeah Yeah And number two. Yeah. We all focused initially on the email suggesting that hunter had helped set up a meeting with his father then the vice president for a Burris. Ma Executive and the executive apparently thanks hunter for the opportunity to do. So it's not clear whether the meeting ever took place with that email was sent before the meeting or after but it does suggest that at least there were discussions about trying to influence then Vice President Biden and the other is the email about China in which there's that intriguing reference to holding ten percent of the equity held by h hunter for the Big Guy Shane what do you make of the FBI subpoena and the China email? Well I. Think you're right that the subpoena indicates there is some law enforcement interest in the laptop right now interestingly, the way that the laptop store owner tells the story I think I have this chronology right? He's in contact. He says with the FBI, they don't WanNa take the laptop initially, but they make a copy of the laptop then they come back for the laptop. So now we're speculating here but does that mean as they examined their copy of it, they saw something that they thought was relevant or Germane to an investigation and wanted to go back and get the laptop itself than have chain of custody over it maybe I mean that would follow some protocol. That, we're used to seeing does this mean they're investigating Hunter Biden for something that he was up to possibly right now that it is in their possession, there's this reporting as you said that the FBI is interested in some kind of foreign interference piece of this we don't really and we've tried to figure this out the post to really know what that means. Exactly. So we may be looking looking at an investigation that is pursuing kinda parallel to this one that we don't even know about that were were speculating here in going only on the fact that this thing was subpoenaed and that does not appear by the way to be a made up document us a USA's name on that subpoena is is a real A. USA in Delaware, there's no reasonably falsified document now as to the content itself, I think the China e mail is very interesting and I am frankly I'm kind of surprised that the president and others aren't trying to zero in on some of this stuff more you know the questions of Burris Ma and Ukraine that just feels like if I'm just started putting. On. The campaign skulduggery cap right that feels like old stuff were over that. We went there China's new China's different and instead you're seeing things like vague tweets from the president about huge scandal. But they're not specifying what it's about I suspect that trump will ask Joe Biden about it in the debate on Thursday who is the Big Guy? What is this about? Biden will be prepped with an answer, but you know if it's surfacing legitimate questions than by all means ask them. I, just don't know that I've seen anything in those emails that leads me to think that actually answers the questions. It just rick more up and I want to ask mad about that because let's just posit for a moment that these emails are authentic. Let's focus on the on the BARISTA email. So setting up a some kind of a meeting with this Rizla advisor either for the future or the email. Says that already happened it's unclear from the email and let's say you know Biden does have some cursory meeting with this guy I mean, what's the impact of that I mean you know like what does it tell you about Joe Biden I mean I I tend to agree in the in the current environment with with chains observation about. Ukraine burris MMA story to the extent sort of being you know sort of a dredged up again in the context of the of the of these purported e mails is really old news I mean. The broader picture is you know I'm sort of arguing with the premise of your question, a little bit Dan but the broader picture this has just been route basically debunked over the past year of everyone who's looked at it carefully with any credibility in terms of Biden's role in Ukraine, and trying to influence the prosecutor there and and how his involvement in trying to get the prosecutor to be more aggressive right to go after other and corruption. So I just I think there's a sense of this is. Pretty welded a gated at this stage and we'll and doesn't have any real. Is the premise of my question, which is that even if it happened even if something happens, you know there's a little bit of smoke maybe but really no fire. Yeah Exactly I think that even if there is some accuracy to the email for. Right is no impact. On the BARISTA'S SMA Ukraine part of it but on the China part of it, holding ten for the big guy that seemed to me would could raise a lot of troubling questions but I want to pick up on a point. Shane made a minute ago, which is that the FBI subpoena appears to be real and it was signed by a real a USA who could presumably on the Disputed if if he didn't actually sign it so that means there's some or has been some sort of investigation. Into something that Hunter Biden has been doing or was up to, and let's just think this through for a minute. Joe Biden wins the election as the polls indicate he is likely to do at this point, the Biden Justice Department takes over, and there is an outstanding investigation into the president's son. Are. We going to have to have a special counsel right off the bat under the Biden. Justice Department. Going to give us something new to talk about isn't it? How do you avoid? Saying these stories repeat themselves it's Now. He I think Mike you're exactly right. I mean we're we're we're obviously for present purposes focused on how this thing lands in the middle of a campaign in whether Russia's behind it or not. But it's obviously pointing to this thing in the corner that like you know hundred might be being investigated and how it's not GonNa play when you have, you know the son of the president possibly facing criminal charges to be clear I have no information on that but. If. This were nothing but a story about, hunter. Biden's laptop was subpoenaed in December of two, thousand nineteen by the FBI that would be the story and we. Strikes me as a pretty big story. Me Bring Matt into this because as someone who you a chief of staff to a FBI director Bob Muller. Remember well, the controversy multiple controversies that James Comey stepped into by revealing investigations at the end of a presidential campaign. What do you think Chris Wray the current FBI director is thinking right now. Hiding under his desk guy saying. Chris Pretty remarkable job wedding of trying to stay out of the fray and sort of manage the bureau during a really difficult time with the president. Consistently criticizing him and his leadership and the the guys playing in these in these types of investigations, the norm at the Justice Department as you all know, well, as did not comment on education so you haven't if you have a grand jury. Subpoena issued there is no proper way for the Justice Department to respond to our conversation or other conversations about the meaning of that of that subpoena you know what was that subpoena for? What was the purpose of that? So there's lots of reasons I. Mean I know we're focusing on under bind in that I get it but like it if I was listening and reading about this I think there are a number reasons why the FBI might subpoena the laptop or the or the hard drive including to focus on Russian influence operations as as the target of the investigation we don't know and we're not gonNA find out and we you know it'd be beyond Komi level inappropriateness for the for the FBI have press conference and explain exactly what they're doing here. Especially, you know two weeks before the election. So there's lots of possibilities but the justice. Department, the are not going to talk about it in the course of this investigation and. Ron Johnson, the chairman of the homeland. Security Committee is written to Ray asking for answers about all this Bhai next week I believe I would say there's zero chance. Kris Ray. Is going to respond with any substantive explanation of what that. The chance. Bill Bar weighing in and confirming the existence of an investing. Our. I I knew I get blowback every time I say this but I think you know bar does have some limits to how far he will go List on my twitter feed I'm sure. goes out. That I. There have been some reason events sort of pushed in that direction on Bar with That the closing down of the nation into the unmasking unmasking. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting counter to the you know sort of the most extreme views of bars. Politics, he did it very quietly I. I assume hoping that the president wouldn't wouldn't find out. He did. Without. Without telling anybody, we had the break the story that he'd even done it for them Alan. Arkin read the polls as well as anybody else in your Mike I mean what would possibly be in it for bill bar to you know fifteen days from an election to come out and confirm an investigation into the sound of the Democratic nominee I mean presuming the bill also does not think that he's likely to have this job in second trump administration I see. No. Just to wrap this. Up then I got one other subject which I want to raise with both of you guys. But to wrap this up, what's your respective takes on the way twitter and facebook handled this in twitter's case blocking people seeking to re tweet the New York Post. Story. And we'll take that one I. I. I think this is I'm very sympathetic to those companies trying to make these decisions in real time in Inter unprecedented context. You know like how do they enforce their policies around knock putting out false information or information in the day? Believe is harmful the. Virus context you're not putting out false information around you around use of masks. For example, think they're tr- they're making. They're really trying to do the best. They can really difficult circumstances I I don't have a sense of whether or not facebook was right or wrong twitter was right or wrong in this case. It's different because they didn't know whether the information was false right? Right. So it's harder right but twitter's initial explanation for doing. So which was that they weren't going to allow the re tweeting of material that had not been authorized to whether you have no rob to the providence of the. That I thought was pretty outrageous so much more difficult. To justify the as right and you're. Up on the them for. Taking a stab it's I just think it's really hard in along with 'em getting riot near case. Shane. Response using and given. I. Understand they're SORTA improvising here in their kind of writing played walk as as new experiences present themselves. They gave different explanations at one point saying, well, we can't let anything that might have been the product hats materials be re tweeted or posted but. There was no indication before it was hacked and you know be You know there've been other stories that have been clearly written about people that are probably based on the materials that were hacked and go ask. Brady. How he feels about that and they didn't stop those stories from spreading. So just felt a little bit mean my first instinct honestly was has somebody at the FBI ticked off the social media companies that it. Actually had the exact same reaction because these social media platforms have very close relationships with law enforcement. And the intelligence community and there are informal as there should be there informal. Channels and back channels and conversations going back and forth. So I wondered about that one thing I did hear by the way. That Dan went June or humane Jim Baker former general. Now Deputy General where so speaking of this sort of. That's interesting. That is very interesting I. mean the one other thing I was gonna say that may have been the reason that they did this that I've subsequently heard just what I was referring to before is that their reason for kind of putting the kyw Bash on the post story was because the post did not delete the personal information and Meta data on these emails and that was a violation of their policy but they were if that's the case they were terrible about communicating that they did these twitter threads explaining their policy and you know as to your point Shane. Utterly confusing what their rationale was so. Switching here's we're at the stage when people looking at the polls, see the likelihood of a Biden victory, and then of course, speculation about who will be serving in key national security and intelligence posts in your wondering if Shane is going to be. Restoration. Math. So Mad. You may want to give us your thoughts on that subject and whether you have some interest yourself. There are so many really incredibly qualified people around around vice president, Biden, it's it's pretty remarkable when you look at the number of people who are in his circle having served. In government for several decades and having been somebody who was on the Intelligence Committee of course formulations in the Senate obvious vice president. So and then you look at not only the folks who are within his direct orbit who have national security experience intelligence experience. But then you have all the votes who were part of the Obama team who are out now and a number of those I mean who would be well positioned to serve in a position in A. Cabinet or by government, and then the other thing that occurs to me not that necessarily these folks would be back in government but I think it's possible. There are a number of Republican national security leaders who are least four formerly had been in Republican positions under president. Bush, who has supported Vice President Biden explicitly time not just coming out against trump as they didn't do thousand sixteen, but this time it's a binary choice where supporting. Him and you know an interesting notion would be as a as a means of sort of saying, Hey, we're this is a this would be consistent with buying ride but I'm GonNa pull in the best person regardless of who they've served in the past year. Here's somebody who was. A. Really Great Leader under President Bush and think they'd be the right person. Do you want to name some names? I was GonNa ask you that question which is what what should Joe Biden do if he becomes president to send the message that the intelligence community is not going to be politicized under this administration and they're going to in fact, roll back. The politicization that the trump did. So what as a symbolic act or if there's a particular person that you think maybe he should appoint to a high level national security position who would that be? Yeah, I mean they're they're dozens of people who are fit that bill honestly none of come out publicly and I think look I do think that's kind of what I was getting at like. A key goal from day one is to Rebalance the intelligence community and and move away from the politicization that's occurred pass for years. You know one really strongly to do that is to appoint people who are perceived as being apolitical who have served under other administrations and again I. Think there are there are any number of people who to adult well, Matt artfully avoided mentioning any names, his answer to those questions. So Shane I want some names the. National Security Advisers State Department DISD, take it away shirt. Well, Michael Morell who was the former deputy director. And was the acting director I. Mean. It's been pretty prominently among the people I think advising the Biden campaign a lot of talk that he I think would like to be director. Of looked to him as as a leading candidate for that I, wonder if it wouldn't be hard for Biden to replace a woman with a white male. You might go for an Admiral Hanes. Out of my mouth yet admiral Hans of course has been the deputy director at the agency she spent Deputy National Security Advisor. A widely respected, incredibly hard working smart person. It would be. We'd be a very smart political move potentially for Biden because he's not gonNA. Keep Gina Hassle I don't think trump would keep GINA is frankly if Terms, I gotTA keep anybody. In United States. either. So that. That's the Tom Donovan's name surfaces a lot in these discussions around somebody who might WANNA come back into the administration and that kind of capacity. Jake Sullivan and Brian McKee entered the two guys who are kind of running the portfolio I gather for a lot of these issues in the campaign. Presumably, Jake is somebody who obviously has a long history Obama administration would come back in a senior role. Everybody Expects Michele Flournoy will be the Defense Department. Secretary mean she's only been up for that job like eighty seven times. So. Those are some of the big names that I hear in hadn't really considered the whole question of trying to extend the olive branch by appointing a Republican it's it's an interesting idea. And their in there's history of that you know. I gotTa push back on that a little bit because the shadow of the Iraq war you know loom so large. So you go back to Bush era you've gotta find somebody who was not. Big Supporter of the Iraq war and that could be pretty tough to do. I think it can be really tough but. It is the truth though that I mean there will be people falling all over themselves to come serve in a Pyden administration and the people who are informally advising the campaign. You know they're not all people who like Matt and others who had a public profile. There are some people who come from further down. In the bureaucracy in the three letter agencies who you really don't not household names but who potentially could comeback in or or be persuaded I what I tend to hear the on the flip side of this too is talking to career people intelligence community is that if trump is reelected That's it. I'm out and the potential of seeing a real exodus at the senior career level people who are sort of at the you know assistant director and below kind of levels in some of these agencies that are basically the people who run the place day to day that there's a real sense that they wouldn't want to stay on and that maybe you know pushing people even more tranquil Biden train, but a couple of other names. Just worth mentioning Tony Blinken seems to be natural for National Security Adviser. I heard Chris coons named as a potential secretary of state that seems to make some sense. He's the kind of has the kind of profile. You'd look for that. Well, and Susan Rice is going to get some very senior position she was. What would that be denial? It could be secretary of state. Yeah. That means she that was supposed to be her job before she got the Ambassadorship Consolation Prize for walking in Benghazi Plank. That's right. Yeah. But. You know what people judge you incredibly impressive everyone in the campaign obviously has national security experience I mean it would be. The second. Indianapolis. He wasn't wasn't Indianapolis was where was it that big South Carolina? Sorry. South southbound. What about you know another name thrown out I mean Sue Gordon, who unceremoniously dispatched Fraz the number to deny Working in private sector now but that's somebody who I think if president and said, would you like to come back and be the desire potentially even be the dress CIA which is. kind of a career professional writing doesn't have. Right right there it's just an extraordinary number of. Talent out bench. It's an a-list. Just. Keeps going and and If I could I think shames last night there a moment ago as a really important one I hear the same thing both within the intelligence community. But also within the Department of Justice had the the senior career people that are made that meet those places run are holding on barely at eight and they can make obviously to January but if. If Biden is not elected I. Think you would see a change in a potential an exodus of those folks who who have managed to stay for four years but. which. Does remind what about ag we haven't speculated on that. Got Less of a read on ag but I mean, maybe Susan Rice Electric Attorney General. I mean you know. It would be that would be a very interesting plot twist. Think I think you'll see some of the same influence or at least a strong factor will be a similar to the ICU. Early does that will be to de politicize that position and to look for somebody who will not come in with as a perceived you know political figure. Will that would that would mean that it likely would not be Adam shift because there wouldn't. Know there was talk about Adam Schiff as attorney general well, that would make for an interesting confirmation hearing. Republican. But. Yeah. Yeah. All right guys well, this was. This was great discussion, and you know obviously and unfolding story on those. Hunter Biden emails. So Shane, I'll be looking for your reporting and the post reporting. On this and Matt will come back to you when you get named to some high level position in the Biden Administration. They haven't guys disea-. Guys. Graphs here. And we now have with US Vivian Schiller a former chief of news at twitter. Now, the Executive Director of Aspen digital a program of the Aspen Institute the in welcome back to skulduggery. Thank you. Thank you. Glad to be back. So a lot of controversy and debate over the New York Post stories about Hunter Biden and in particular the way twitter and to a lesser degree facebook has handled this twitter initially blocked access to those stories giving. As an explanation that it was a violation of its ban on hacked materials or materials that were obtained without appropriate access that has since caused the company to back down a bit. Give us your take on the way. Twitter is handled this and how twitter should be handling a story like this. Yeah and it's interesting because twitter and facebook both took actions. But based took different actions based on different sets of reasons. So twitter initially said they were. Blocking the tweet of the New York. Post story because, yes there their policy about distributing hacked material as a means to try to suppress motivation for other people to go in hack materials. They. Later also said that it was because these materials contained. Private Information and then they backtracked on the whole thing where it got a little confusing I, think it's really important to to say had the article I am completely confident that that if the new it wasn't about the near post reporting, it was the fact that the New York Post had that documents. The. Veracity of which by the way, we still don't know but that's neither here. Nor there at the moment, the had the documents embedded in the article it just been there are these materials that say x Y and Z they wouldn't have taken the action. It was the embedding of the documents themselves because those documents had the personal and private information in them is that and that's the reason they were hacked documents. It wasn't a story about half occupants, but they don't know that they were hacked documents. I mean think twitter's explanation was that they were documents that were obtained without proper. Authority with permission, which is what I gotta say as a journalist that really you know raise my hackles. The. New York Times reporting on trump's tax returns to. Word Snowden 's documents all material that was obtained without a proper permission, but was certainly news. Worthy, right? Precision here. Sorry to get really wonky but precision here I think is really really important first of all like you as a journalist I'm concerned about that policy but just to be clear the New York Times story about trump's taxes did not include any embedded documents. In fact by design they said we are not linking or embedding these documents to protect our sources it was an. About the taxes that the journalists saw, but they didn't include the documents. So that's number one that said I agree with you I think it is you know whether or not an in any individual listening right now believes that that you know whether the New York Post story and those documents documentary real or not is neither here nor there because by setting a precedent yeah, you do have concerns what about snowden what about Every other whistleblower that's put documents out there I completely agree and I think that's why they walked back there. There's a lot of commentary out there that they said. It was pressure from the Republicans I don't buy it. I. Think they moved too quickly and they realized they were setting a precedent that might not be able they might not be able to maintain. So two questions view. Vivian. First of all, we talked about how facebook and twitter took these different approaches. Why did twitter go? So quickly, it has to sort of the nuclear option banning links altogether as opposed to. What facebook did which was to limit you know sort of amplify. Story limited exposure during that time maybe people would have learned more about its veracity although I guess we really haven't right. So just to be clear so that everybody understands facebook. They didn't take the story down, but they throttled it in their algorithm. So and on Facebook, there's somebody posts if something if something is throttled so that it doesn't you know show. Up High in in Algorithm May as well. Not even exist. So it used that approach but facebook works different than twitter. Yes. Twitter does are news feeds unless you haven't specifically set to be just reverse chronological there is an algorithm that that drives the content you most want to see, but it's it doesn't have the same impact as facebook I mean. For instance, I follow a bunch of journalists you probably due to they would all be re tweeting that story or talking about that story. It's GONNA show up on my news feed. This very different than the way facebook works because twitter is in real time you can't really you don't really they don't really have that option I'm not defending them. I'm just explaining the platforms work very differently that way they also seem to serve botched the communications here I mean these kind of multiple stories and then walking it back and not really explaining why they walked it back what? Look I mean I have some sympathy you know these things are happening real time. There's enormous sense of crisis and what what was your reaction to the way they handled the kind of PR piece of this. Not, great, in fact, twitter. CEO Jack. Dorsey called. His own people out on twitter publicly to say, we didn't handle this. Well, I don't know that he meant we but. Yes. So for sure they didn't really you know. You WanNa, show your work. You want to explain what you're doing while you're doing it and where in your terms of service or your policy what part of your trump surface for policy defend that decision. But as the days get as we get closer and closer to the final of voting on November third, you know emotions are high. There's panic amongst in many in many corners of the country in the world about you know false. Information disinformation I mean plenty of US expected that among the many October surprises could be these documents which may or may not include a which may or may not be actual documents or might include a combination of actual documents and false documents, and you know the platforms and news organizations have been thinking about this for a long time but you can't anticipate every scenario and so you try to take your best move and sometimes you. Screw it up, but the communication definitely left a lot to be desired. So a couple things, you mentioned the one distinction between the New York Times reporting on the tax returns, and this material is that the Times didn't embed the documents. Now normally I wanNA see the documents want the documents to be embedded. So I could inspect them myself and not rely on the interpretation of the journalist writing about them always adds to the credibility. When you can show you have the material. So I guess I'm not sure why embedding the documents is more of a mark against to than not embedding them from twitter's perspective photo I'm not. I'm not necessarily defending it. I'm just a but their initial statement as to why they block the tweet was specifically about not spreading verified. I I don't have the language in front of me but not hack documents but docs documents that were. Without permission. Yeah. Exactly. How often actual action? Yeah. So the fact that the documents were linked in the article by the reason they suppressed the article was because it actually contained the documents themselves I'm not again not necessarily defending the explaining that it was a bit of a nuance. I just saw a lot on twitter people saying what about the New York Times tax articles. So that is the difference rightly or wrongly I agree with you I, WanNa see the documents to on the other hand I also trust their news organizations more than others to give me document. I can really a real I will find out that even Fox News re today was reported at Fox News didn't, WANNA touch disparity. In it. So but this does leave us with the you know the dilemma of what you do with a story like this. Now you and I we interviewed you for the conspiracy land series I did recently about trump's deranged tweets about joe. Scarborough. Murdering a former staffer of his something for which there was. Absolutely no evidence was clearly false and we gave twitter a bit of a hard time for not taking that down. In this case, we don't know whether these emails are false or not. We don't know whether they're true or they're false. So this kind of falls into it you know a different category and the question is what should social media companies be doing in situations like this? Well, there's their choices are not binary it's not leave it up, take it down, and in fact, you know twitter has deployed a number of other options. In other cases, you can put up an interstitial that somebody needs to click through. That says the veracity of this has not. is still questioned whatever the wording would be. You Click through then you can see the link or could put just a you know a a warning on the tweet itself or I'm just saying there are there are there are lots of other options well, those seem like great options. Yeah. Why didn't I mean I mean we've been debating this issue at least since two thousand and sixteen why didn't they do that? Yeah it's a great question and I suspect they may be wishing to have. So is there I mean look Danny makes a great point I. Mean we have been wrestling with what we do in situations like this since two thousand sixteen and in two thousand, sixteen you know we had podesta emails, the DNC emails in those cases. The Clinton campaign was urging us not to report on them, but the emails were authentic. They were real and in some cases had news value even though it was part of a Russian influence operation. In this case, there are suggestions certainly that Rudy Giuliani. Reporting that he was being targeted as part of a Russian influence operation so that on its face since he was the primary source for the New York Post raises some questions about how the material came into his possession. But that said, it sounds like you know we haven't made much progress in figuring out what to do especially during the closing weeks of an election but look. No self-respecting news organization is not going to report something is going to shy away from reporting something newsworthy. No matter what the providence that said you know that's why whether it's the Desta hack or Sony that's why all those stories were reported in. If I were you know if I had been in charge some of those stories I also thought need to be reported because they're newsworthy. That said, there are things you can do to make sure that your audience if you're news organization and you can do this if you're a twitter facebook as well. Understands that you're seeing these materials because you know insert foreign entity here, North Korea or Russia or what have you want you to see it? That is really really important context while I have to say I have been one of the things that I've noticed lately is that when rt the Russian media state media Oregon tweet something there is a little. Notice there that says clearly that this is Russian state media content and it does give you that sort of context that you need. I think an interesting thought exercise would be I mean if those Podesta is something equivalent to the Podesta. Hack happened. Now, what would twitter have done I mean that is hacked material that is clearly hacked material and I wonder if they would have suppressed it. I mean I I wouldn't think you should suppress it in the same way that a news organization shouldn't suppress something newsworthy again irrespective of Providence. But labeling is a really tool and labeling that this was part of a you know documents released by a Russian agency is really important context and let people look at it. With that context and I suspect that's twitter was was when twitter made the decision about the New York Post story I think they probably were thinking of this as an equivalent and I don't work there. So me just be clear on speculating that as a quibbling to what we saw with Podesta. I. Just want to go over some of what we talked about when we did that conspiracy land a series about. Your time at twitter was was relatively early on two thousand fourteen and it was in the aftermath of the Arab Spring and the ethos at twitter was I. Think you use the phrase from the former general counsel where the free speech wing of the Free Speech Party it was to let it all out there that age is. More speech is better than less speech and we're contributing to the spread of democracy and free speech around the world. It looks very different to you today. Yeah. It was a colossal failure of imagination. Honestly. I don't people look for nefarious reasons for all of that. You know whether it's you know into a Commercial. Interests or some kind of. Other conspiracy theories of people. Dream up. IT IS A. Colossal failure of imagination I. think that's the case for twitter and facebook and Youtube and others. It's certainly not in their interest for their platforms to be overtaken by manipulation campaigns from foreign entities. That's not anybody's commercial interests and I just think it was it was pure naievety. You know the things we were worried about in two thousand, fourteen on twitter was just beginning to bubble up issues around harassment online, harassment and abuse, which is a huge problem continues to be a huge problem but you know the idea of these massive information disinformation campaigns with sort of barely glamour in anyone's I, and this is not very long ago Vivian. What is this is a big question but I know you've been thinking about this the took of path forward for these social media platforms in trying to balance free expression and limit disinformation and the amplification of of lies that are damaging I mean is there is there a? Some kind of a process that we need does. The next president to have to lead a commission. Obviously, you don't want too much government involvement with how do you deal with this? It's so hard. It's so hard and there are groups all over the world I'm part of the commissions and task forces and blue ribbon panels that are that are all looking at this and coming up with a variety of solutions some of which makes me deeply uncomfortable like you know government regulation over speech on the other hand this purely leaving it up to market forces in counting on people to do the right thing. is also not is imperfect because there's just not enough transparency so I think they will be a massive reckoning once we get on the other side of this election, you know whenever it ends, we don't know and I think that this will be a big area of focus. It certainly will be for me at the Aspen to do a lot of work on this and where we're gonNA, be diving back into this snugly been ignoring at an in a in a big way after the elections you know there's a lot of chatter on the hill and Washington. You know about you know changing section two thirty, which is probably a subject for another podcast and how that would impact it. I worry about overreach overreaction to be perfectly honest by the way when you mentioned the election you know how the social media companies will handle election night and in the days after if it's not clear who the winner is a huge issue, but look if there is a presidential commission. We will nominate you. On it skulduggery we'll get. We'll give you. Our endorsement to help figure out how to sort these things out of Vivian. Thanks a lot for joining us once again skulduggery. Looking for a new podcast listen to. Here's what we love courtesy of a cash remix. You need to watch the reality it should make you. Officer shot and killed a black woman in her own home after incident year have to. Say their name, a podcast that. 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