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Game of Crimes
A highlight from 123: Part 4: Rikk Rambo Survives Two Shootings, An Assassination Attempt, and an 800-Pound Grizzly
"I will tell you that we arrested, they came after my partner and I, they were surveilling my house. We caught them. We caught them surveilling the house. Like I said, this story would take a long time to tell about why DEA was slow to react. I can just say if management had been different all the way to the top, I think things would have been differently, but it doesn't take many cogs in that wheel to cause bad things to happen. But we documented surveillance on our homes. Nothing was done on a little island like St. Croix. Nothing was done. But yeah, ultimately they machine gunned my partner's personal vehicle. That day, one of my other task force partners and I, a guy named Chris, Chris and I had been Angel's babysitting son while he worked a second job. So we came back that night to the house with Bomb B, his little boy, the kind of kid that would make you wish you had him. I'd never had children, but I think about Bomb B and I wish I would have had kids. I mean, he makes you wish you had kids, but yeah, we dropped him off at the, dropped off the house, kind of hung out for a little bit, had a little bite to eat with the family and everything and dropped Bomb B off and then we all kind of left at the same time. Angel's dad, he's just an old fisherman, just an old St. Croix fisherman, he borrowed the truck that night. The truck that Angel and I went fishing in, you could ride it down the beach, just a little island truck, a little rusted out Nissan island truck. Angel's father, as we're all leaving, his father took the truck and was going to use the truck for something that next day and we all leave. Well, they were surveilling from a distance, probably from the mountain across the way. And so we all leave. Well, they always saw, they knew Angel, that was his truck and also Angel and I were always, we did stuff we did in that truck, but yeah, they let that truck get about a mile or two from the house into a kind of like a deserted part of the island and then pull it up next to it in a full -size Dodge Ram pickup truck with two automatic weapons and just let them have it. And luckily his dad, I'm telling you, if there's a big guy upstairs, he was watching out for Majean, that's his nickname, it was Majean, Angel's father, but yeah, somebody's watching out for him. He took five, I think it was five rounds, they were all skinning shots across his face. One went through a lip and in his teeth, but all of them were, and they were still rifled, I mean, they were still spinning straight and true through the window. So he took those across the face. The one that almost killed him went through his arm and went through the door metal on the car keyhole. The bullet turned sideways, full metal jacket bullet turned sideways, hit him in the arm and nicked his breaky artery. But nevertheless, they stopped their truck in front of him to finish, they figured probably it was either my partner or me or both of us. But they come back and Majean, who had been shot, he was still conscious, he saw them gal the truck putting magazines in their rifles through the shattered glass in the windshield. He carried a .357 Magnum because he worked for a restaurant and he did their night deposits for their money, so he had a permit to carry and he had a little .357 Magnum in the truck with him. Well he got, he just shot right through the windshield at him, he got five of six rounds, he passed out before he could get that sixth round off, but that was enough to scare those guys back into the truck, figuring it's one or both of us still alive and getting out of there. And then the ball rolled down from there. We arrested a bunch of people that we knew were involved in other things, we couldn't get them for that for that point in time, but we had them on other charges and the federal magistrate down there let them all go on bond, which is, yeah, so, but that was, you know, in the end analysis that was the best thing that could have happened because over the course of the next eight months we had eleven or twelve tertiary, I mean, primary bad guys and a whole lot of secondaries and tertiary bad guys, but the primaries in that case, of the eleven primaries, eight of them were killed within that next, I don't know, eight months to ten months. Some of them were killed typical island fashion where somebody just runs up real quick and shoots you a bunch of times while you're playing dominoes in like a little place or whatever. Other ones were pretty spectacular, getting shot from a distance, a team coming in that looked like paramilitary and taking them out, but in the end analysis, all those bad guys, except for two primaries, or three, I'm sorry, three primaries, they were all wiped out. I mean, very well done in that time period and the final three end up getting theirs. I think the two of them end up getting life in prison without federal life in prison. So it had a happy ending, but it took a little bit of time. The island was safe for everybody to go back. I know my partner, Majito, his whole family had a little girl, a little boy and his wife. They evacuated them off of St. Croix. They ended up being able to go up and visit my parents way up north in Ohio and get to see snow for the first time and go sled riding and all that. They had a nice time being evacuated, but it was actually by the time it was all said and done, they had a safe place to go back to. All the main bad guys, they were all kaput. And in the secondary and tertiary areas, they either went to jail or they were so afraid because they didn't know who did it. And it was done professionally. I mean, some of the hits, they were done quite well. And so a lot of those bad guys for a couple of years after that were like, oh, boy, let's hide in the basement for a while. Did you get any insight on who was behind those hits? Nope, nobody ever saw that one.
Game of Crimes
A highlight from 123: Part 3: Rikk Rambo Survives Two Shootings, An Assassination Attempt, and an 800-Pound Grizzly
"We are making history again, Murph, that's how we're making history. I know how we're doing it. Yes, because this is an episode 124, it's a continuation of episode 123 with the only man documented now to talk faster and take more airtime than I do, Rick Rambo. So we are now at part three of episode 123. Yeah, and I mean, if you've heard that, let me see if I can get my tongue straight. That's all folks. If you work, if you work, good Lord, this is getting worse. Are you on or off your meds? Apparently I'm off. I had my vitamin today. Anyway, if you heard the first two sessions with Rick Rambo, his stories are, it's just phenomenal. They're unbelievable. The fact that you got the small town, Ohio boy that goes down in the Caribbean and lives in a, in a beautiful island and things that he went through there and then ends up in Alaska and has no plans of ever leaving Alaska. I don't think, I mean, it's just, his stories are almost beyond belief, but you know what, with the last name of Rambo, you better be able to put up or shut up, you know? That's right. And I'm pretty sure Rick can put up. Yeah, he can put up. Well, speaking of putting up with me and you, let's just finish our small talk here and we'll get into our, as they say, our case in chief. They say, guys, welcome back. You know, thank you guys again for joining us. Make sure you head on over to Apple Spotify. Hit those five stars. Let us know what you think of this episode. Let us know what you think about what's going on. We really appreciate it. Also head on over to our website, gameofcrimespodcast .com. We put some pictures of there, of Rick. So if you want to see some of the stuff Rick got involved in and what he took out with a .44 Magnum pistol. You know, you got to just go, even if you don't listen to his interview, go look at picture.
Game of Crimes
A highlight from 123: Part 2: Rikk Rambo Survives Two Shootings, An Assassination Attempt, and an 800-Pound Grizzly
"Yeah, we did not because, you know, since they were part of, they were in probation and all that with the juveniles, and we didn't really have anything to do with them unless we were investigating them. And I was out of there pretty, you know, pretty shortly after that but never, you know, not able to track, you know, whether that was effective or not. Just don't know. But I do notice watching them. Let me ask you, after going through that, did you think about breaking the law after that? Nope. Nope. Nope. I'm good. Nope. You know, I thought back to all the things I did as a juvie, you know, that might have been, you know, and I'm like, yeah, I think I went the right, I think I went the right direction. Yeah. Well, so you said you did that, you hurried because you had to, you know, you had paperwork to do at Pittsburgh. So how long did it take you from the time you applied to the time you got on Pittsburgh PD? I would say it probably took probably close to about a year, almost like with DEA. DEA was very methodical, very slow and very good with the way that they hired you. But Pittsburgh Police, yeah, but when it happened, it happened in a whirlwind. I waited about a year. When I went to take the test at Pittsburgh, I drove all the way from over in western Ohio, so about a five hour drive, showed up at the convention center, you know, going back to when we're talking about how popular policing was, how difficult it was to break in. Went to go take the test. It was at the convention center, like a Van Halen concert in 1984. There must have been probably close to, I think they said 18 ,000 people for 200 jobs. So I mean, I took the test and didn't think anything was ever going to happen with that many. And being an out -of -towner, because, you know, there's a little bit of nepotism in some of those back east towns, but yeah, about a year. But boy, I'll tell you, you could tell they had a protocol in place to keep the out -of -towners out and to keep the, you know, the people who knew people inside or whatever, to keep Pittsburghers, Pittsburghers. The gal calls me from Pittsburgh out of the clear blue and she goes, you're considered for the job. You have two and a half days to move here. And I'm all the way over by the Michigan border, working over there. And I found out later on this gal had some issues with people like, anyway, yeah, so she had an issue with out -of -towners and some other things. She's been on the racist side. Let's go ahead and say it. This gal was very racist. But yeah, she said, you have two and a half days to get here and she says, this is what you have to have. Now I'm in Ohio. You have to have a driver's license, proof of residency, like a lease or whatever. You have to have a telephone, subscribe to your name and power. And you have two and a half days to do it. It's, I mean, but luckily for me, my secret weapon was my mom and dad lived within an hour of Pittsburgh. So I'm back that night. The next day we head up there and luckily mom and dad were Uber before Uber was cool. They drove me all around Pittsburgh. Thank God I passed the test on the first try and didn't screw up any of the questions and what have you. But I passed the driver's license test. So I got my PA driver's license, ended up finding an apartment, did everything in one day. Ended up having everything I needed in one day. And I totally baffled her. I could tell when I showed up at the public safety building with all my stuff, all my gear, you could tell she's very disappointed. Her name was Cookie. Anyway, yeah, I showed up and had it all. And so that's how it all went. And it kind of bolstered what I thought too when I went to the academy, because when you walk through the door of the Pittsburgh Police Academy, it's also very old. I mean, it smells like history when you walk in there. Old, old building. Walked in and there's this old disgruntled, this is my indoctrination into Pittsburgh Police. I walk into the building and you smell that history. I walk in and there's this old pissed off cop sitting there. And he's like one of those big city, old pissed off stereotype cops. He's got an unlit cigar chomped in his mouth and whatever. And I remember he was very voluminous, big guy, sitting there just angry looking. And he had the tea sitting at a table. There was a container over here with nightsticks and a smaller container on the table with blackjacks. And if you're not familiar with blackjacks for people out there, they were an impact weapon that was your backup if you couldn't use your full size nightstick or once they went to Asps, the expandable batons. But a blackjack was basically a leather wrapped, about a foot long. It had a steel spring in the middle wrapped in leather. It had a handle. It had a lead ball also wrapped in leather on the end. It's kind of sproingy. You could kind of give it some spring. It was meant for close quarters stuff. But yeah, it was like a 1900 Keystone cops blackjack nightstick and this pissed off old cop sitting there. And he says, name, sign here, get downstairs and get your uniform. And like I said, there was no friendliness. So I go down, I get into the locker room and the first thing somebody said, and this is the first thing in Pittsburgh that anybody said to me from the PD, I get down there and one of the other new recruits looks over at me and he goes, so who do you know? And I'm like, I don't know. I'm just that token out of town kid and whatever. But I mean, that was really not a big deal. The rest of it wasn't nepotism or anything. That was the first thing it said. But you could see a degree of people that were there that had been, you know, that were like legacies or they had known somebody. But for the most part, it was a bunch of good guys and gals. And that carried on all through Pittsburgh. You know, I think a lot of the times for us, you know, we're our own best critics when it comes to not wanting a dirty cop, not wanting a bad cop. Not even somebody that, you know, is even halfway, like doesn't treat people the right way and whatever. I mean, so I mean, most of us are our own best critics. And I can honestly say, like with Pittsburgh Police, I work the second worst part of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh's north side. It's called Zone 1. But all through my career in Pittsburgh, I met like maybe, maybe two or three guys that I'm like, oh, boy, I wouldn't want to work with that fellow. But that's out of hundreds of people. And we'd jump zones and go over to their zones and help them out. It would work special details like events and work with detectives. But yeah, my experience for the rest of the time with Pittsburgh was very, very good. It was truly a family. One of the biggest problems we had when you'd have a serious call where you had to call back up, like you had a gunfight going on or you had like a really serious foot chase. One of the biggest problems was trying to sort out who all had showed up at your scene when you write your report. Because, you know, Pittsburgh had a whole bunch of agencies going on that were kind of like on top of each other. And even though Pittsburgh police was the clearinghouse for like a robbery or a shooting or what have you, you know, we had Allegheny County police, Port Authority police, sheriff, school, and they could come back you up if necessary. And so it just looked like a carnival if you had like a really serious call. And so my experience was, though, that the people we worked with were unbelievable. Never, never had a bad experience in the field. Very lucky. Well, yeah, you had a bad experience in the field, weren't you? Didn't you tell us something about two weeks after you got released? You're out on your own. Didn't something happen? So I guess we'll tell a couple of these. For the first two weeks in Pittsburgh when you get out, they didn't have a field training officer program. What I tell people that even 15 years ago, 20 years ago, I tell people, yeah, Pittsburgh didn't have a field training officer program. You'd graduate after your six -month academy and they're like, here's your badge, kid, go out and be good. And that was the way they did it. Wow. So you had no FTO. You got a badge and a gun, go get them, Tiger. But what they did do for your first two weeks is, for familiarization, they would put you in all the different, they don't call them precincts in Pittsburgh, they're called zones, but they would put you in a different zone in Pittsburgh for like a three -day period. And that way, during the two weeks, you could experience every one of those zones, know where their stations are, if there's a court, whatever you need to know about. And you'd also do patrol work with another officer. Yeah, so my first week on the job, so many things happened in one and a half weeks that kind of like shows you the quantity over quality when it comes to, you know, street law enforcement in a big city. But I remember my very first call for service, I was in Zone 2, which is our downtown area. That's the big sprawling downtown and then the Hill District. And my first partner, he was an older guy, a little bit gruff and what have you. You could tell he's kind of like, he's not real happy being saddled up, you know, with the rookie, but that's what he had to do. And it was nine o 'clock in the morning and they get a call of an unknown disturbance from Point State Park. Point State Park is where, if you look at Pittsburgh proper, you have two rivers called Monongahela and the Allegheny River. They flow together and form the Ohio River. Well, right there where that point is, they have a really, really nice park right there. It's huge, absolutely huge. But nothing ever happens there usually because you can't escape. It'd be like Snake Pliskin trying to get out of New York or whatever, you can't get out of there. So it's unusual to have that call. So we get down there, we just drive right through the park in the patrol car, right down through the green lines, we get down to where the problem was, was a park bench. And there were several business people, a couple ladies, a couple guys, dressed very nice, and they're kind of standing back just like watching this poor thing unfold. It looked like it was a homeless guy. He had that Obi -Wan Kenobi homeless look to him with all the multiple layers of clothes where you can't really tell what's going on. And so he's laying on the, I don't know if it was a he, but we found out later on, the hard way. We found out the hard way. Yeah. So he's laying on the park bench and he's kind of like in the fetal position, but you can't see anything but like that Obi -Wan Kenobi rap going on. Nothing. Can't see hands, but he's in, it looks like to me as a young, brand new, fresh out of the box, fresh -faced kid, I'm thinking this guy is going into convulsions. And he's making the sound that's like, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr. I mean, he's making these like animalistic sounds. He's in convulsions. And so I'm just kind of like, huh. And this cop, without skipping a beat that I'm with, old timer guy, he gets out his big old Micarta nightstick. He goes over in front of all these business people, takes it and just jams it right into the area that's probably going to be this guy's sternum or ribs or stomach or whatever. And just, he doesn't hit him with it. He just sticks it in there to give him a little, you know, hey, pride. He sticks it. Well, the guy never misses a beat. He stops. Well, he does. He stops for like maybe a second. Like he stops the convulsing and the gurgling sounds. And then he goes right back at it again into the convulsions. And I'm like, oh man, it's like our first day and this is going on. And these business people are like all shocked. They're like, oh my God, because of the nightstick. And the cop, my cop, he goes dirt and jams the guy again. He goes, hey, I said, get the F out of here right now. And the guy stops making the gurgling sounds and then sits up. And now you can see it's a dude. He's dirty. His face is really, really dirty. And robes his and whatever he had going on comes open. And there's no easy way to put this. I'm going to make the sound effect. If you heard that sound effect, that's what fell out of his robes. He had this thing that looked, it didn't look right. You know, when you see something that doesn't make sense to you, and just for like maybe a two second period, your head is trying to figure this, like, what am I looking at? I don't even know what I'm looking at, but you know what you're looking at. This guy had a monstrous monster dog. Yeah, he had a monstrous dog. And he had been performing fellatio on himself. And I'll be honest with you guys. I'll be honest with you guys. You know, I've told this story ever since from Pittsburgh on, like when you're sitting in a surveillance van, you're like, what's the weirdest thing you ever saw? Or like, what's the most thing that ever made you the most jealous? Anything like that. But yeah, so we're, I saw, but before we did our podcast today, yesterday, I just wanted to see, I want to make sure that I haven't misremembered this story. So I went online and I typed in, I typed it in. I hope my, yeah, don't look at my browser for this one. I typed in, can a man perform fellatio on himself? And you know what? I was totally justified in whatever, in telling the story the way it is, because according to Men's Health, and hey, you know, Men's Health says that it can't be wrong, 0 .2 % of the male population in America can actually do that to themselves. So you don't have to break a rib, I guess. You don't have to do anything weird. You're like a fetishist type thing. But anyway, so that guy sits up. I know it makes a lot of mental, you can't help, but just get the mental images. I'm sorry, but if you do that, are you automatically gay then? I mean, how does that work? I don't, you know what? I'm not here to judge. I'm not here to judge. All I can tell you is, I guess I, you know, if I had to, I'd have to say, I would probably be homeless too. You know, if I had that going on, I might be homeless, or at least never leaving my house. I don't know. But yeah, so that comes out and flops down and what have you. And the business people, and not just the men, I mean, not just the women, the men too, it was like, you know those 1950s movie screams? Yeah. Like the over -the -top, like from all the old horror movies, like, ah! That's what universally happened to that small little crowd of business people. They were nowhere to be seen in about 25 seconds. They were gone and whatever. And you know, the guy, the park bench guy, he reels it in, or I'm not sure how that spools it up. I'm not sure what he did. If he had a holster, I'm not sure what he did. But anyway, yeah, so he gets it back in there somehow and gets himself bundled back up, and he just goes trudging off. And he never did say one word that you could understand. It was all just like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, just total nonsensical gibberish. And he just kind of wandered off into the sunset. I guess that's what heroes do. Ah, jeez. Yeah, he wandered off into the sunset. And I'm thinking to myself, huh, I went through five years of college and 70 years of military, and here we are. It's great. It was absolutely great. I would not trade my time with the things we saw in this world.
Game of Crimes
A highlight from 123: Part 1: Rikk Rambo Survives Two Shootings, An Assassination Attempt, and an 800-Pound Grizzly
"We have an emergency. We have a national tragedy. Murph is cold. I am. Send help. Send a fire. I don't know. Send a parka. I don't know. You couldn't have gone any farther, at least staying in North America, you couldn't have gone any farther from Florida than, well, you could have, you could have gone farther into Northern Canada, but you're in Vancouver, British Columbia this week. Yeah, buddy. I love coming up here. We've made several trips up here and we're doing a thing with the Vancouver police today and tomorrow. But man, we joke around how nice Canadians are. They are. I mean, it's just, it's unbelievable. And the cops here, just like cops in the US, the brotherhood and sisterhood is strong. Yeah. Well, guys don't know this. Murph got mugged last night and even the robber apologized for mugging him. They hate to do this. They say, you know, sorry, but I need some money. Okay. Sorry to take your money, please. Sorry to take your money. Then he goes to a restaurant and gets thrown out by the new squad that the Victoria police have up there. Oh man, I love this. They've got a restaurant squad. And so they sign on. It's not a restaurant squad that goes around and eating everybody's food, right? Oh no. Oh no. They're there to enforce. So all the restaurants are on board with this. And what it does is it allows the police to come in anytime they choose to just see if there's any riffraff, if there's any problems. And if they are, you know, like known gang members or motorcycle gang people, whoever, they can escort them out of the building. And they say, it's funny, cause it's been going, I think for several years now. And they said it's become so popular that when the known criminals are in there and they see the uniforms come walking in, they start shoveling the food in their mouth real quick because they know they're getting ready to get run out. I love it. I don't think we'd ever get away with it in the US, but I love it. And you were talking too, looking out your window, you know, as you're wrapped up in your four wool blankets, you know, and drinking hot coffee, you got sea planes, you got water planes taken off out there. Man, we're at this beautiful hotel, the Pinnacle Hotel right on Vancouver Harbor. And there's, there's a group of about, I think I counted 10 this morning when I got up there, the sea planes there go to the smaller communities around here that don't have runways. And so you see them all day long, landing, taking off right out of the Harbor. Vancouver's a very, very nice place. I've been up there before too. I've been on Vancouver and Victoria and Victoria Island and just, I mean, just beautiful area up there. So, but hey, well, we digressed a little bit there, so we thought we might hop into it. So, hey guys, welcome back again. Hey, this is going to be a unique episode too for a couple of reasons. I'll tell you about that in just a second. First of all, thank you guys for joining us. Once again, let's just do a quick bit of housekeeping. Hit Apple, Spotify, hit those five stars. It helps us out a lot. In fact, on Spotify, you can actually leave comments on the episode. So if you've got any comments for that episode, let us know about that. Also head on over to our website, game of crimes, podcast .com. You're going to want to go to the website for this episode because we're going to share a couple of pictures and we're going to wait till the second part of it. Wait till you, you'll hear you wait till you see the end of the episode. And by the way, too, Murph, I don't know if you saw this, I got to post Jim Lawler's picture. Jim just sent his golden eye picture. He is sitting on 1 billion folks, $1 billion worth of gold buried deep in the Swiss Alps somewhere.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
A highlight from NBA Too Soon? With Joe House and Kyle Mann, Plus the Struggling Grizzlies and Week 9 NFL Picks With Chris Vernon
"Coming up, a little game at NBA 2 soon, plus I'm gonna try to save million dollar picks next. This episode of the Bill Simmons podcast is presented by Airbnb. Maybe you're traveling to see friends and family for the holidays. When you're away, your home could be an Airbnb, whether you could use a little extra money to cover some bills or for something a little more fun. Your home or spare room might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at Airbnb .com slash host. This episode is brought to you by Nissan. Thrill looks different for each of us. For some, it's rewatching that one film over and over again. For others, it's hitting the open road with nothing but a full tank. Whatever your thrill, Nissan has a car that gives you more, more action, more freedom, more head turning style, sports cars, sedans, EVs, pickups, crossovers. More is what Nissan does. Learn more at NissanUSA .com. We're also brought to you by the Ringer Podcast Network. I put up a new rewatchables on Monday. We did the Omen, me and Chris Ryan. Chris Ryan and I also went on the Prestige TV podcast this week. And we did a Hall of Fame episode. We covered the pilot of Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip, Aaron Sorkin's show about basically SNL, starring Matthew Perry. And it's a really great Matthew Perry performance and really an awesome pilot. I was shocked by how good the pilot was. Show tailed off after that, but we had fun talking about it. So you can check that out on the Prestige TV podcast feed. We have some shows coming up on that feed as well. Nathan Fielder has a new show. We're gonna be covering that. We're gonna be covering The Crown. So bookmark the Prestige TV podcast. Hey, how about this? We're gonna be doing a live podcast in Las Vegas before the NBA in -season tournament semi -finals. The semi -finals are Thursday. Our live podcast is gonna be Wednesday, December 6th at Jimmy Kimmel's Comedy Club. The show starts at eight Pacific. Doors open at seven. We're gonna have the Real Ones podcast, Raja and Logan with KOC. And then it's gonna be me and Rossello and almost definitely a special guest. So tickets will go on sale on Friday at 10 a .m. Pacific time. And if you wanna grab your tickets, here's how easy it is. You can go to jimmykimmelscomedyclub .com. Once again, jimmykimmelscomedyclub .com. Jimmy Kimmel, I heard he was a decent guy. Be interesting if he's there, maybe we'll run into him.
The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
A highlight from Clippers Land Harden & Grizzlies Injury Woes
"He's not having to go and You know d up CJ McCollum for example or somebody of that ilk so I think he's gonna be able to To do this pretty regularly And I it had to but I was watching between that first and second quarter like just seeing how calm Golden State was not having to like rush back in like Steph Curry or rush back in Draymond Green or one of their starters you can play Chris Paul and Four reserves and do what they did I think in that stretch They were like plus six between the minute Steph Curry went out and the minute Steph Curry went back on the floor came back on the floor so Rowan I just think this is a You know this has the potential to to me I didn't know if the wars were gonna be better with Chris Paul because Jordan Poole You know did have his moments, and he's an improving scorer and all that stuff But you know this version of Chris Paul if the Warriors stay healthy with their their starting lineup It's a better fit than Jordan Poole is for it's not just a moving one long -term contract for a shorter one It's a better fit than Jordan Poole was I Agree, and I just think it makes everyone's life easier Including Chris Paul. He's still averaging over eight assists a game, which is kind of crazy Right now right now. He's at around roughly 30 minutes a night Which would be a career low, and I'm willing to bet that gets even lower. Yeah, it's just It makes too much sense again. I'm interested to see if he's closing alongside Chris Paul In these closing lineups, I mean it could be moody moody has been fantastic long time in guys I mean yeah, yes as long as I curry could be moody could be comingo So I'm so interested to see who closes because I don't think they're gonna go the Draymond Looney look All the time, but It's a it's a good problem for them to have right now because the time by the way I love that you know even with clay out Steve Kerr put moody in the starting lineup like yeah This is now Chris Paul's role like he's yeah, I'm not gonna jerk him around in and on the lineup You know maybe there's a long -term injury you put him right, but just for short -term stuff You're gonna start somebody else and keep Chris Paul in that spot I think it's only the more time he spends in that role the more comfortable. He's going to be the better. He's gonna be Plus 1 ,300 then plus 1 ,300 that's crazy That's crazy. Who was the who the frontrunners for six man like a manual quickly like I mean It's like the problem is it just always goes to guys who score a lot But it you know, I think it'll be incumbent on they'll be like a hearing kind of touch. Yes They'll be like a nostalgia vote first Yeah They're like top three and Chris Paul's like up there giving you 13 I know seven and five and I think that the like the same way that it took a while for Cy Young winners where you were getting guys that you know, was it Felix? Hernandez one year that had Like he went like 13 and 12 and won the Cy Young and it was kind of threw everybody off That he did or it didn't throw everybody off There were a lot of the new wave kind of new age guys that you know baseball I've always thought was ahead of basketball as far as the way analytics are used and I feel like we're just starting to see that turn with Basketball guys where that have an element of defense to their game I don't know It'll probably still take a while but like the Lou Williams prototype May not win the award for the next 10 years the way it's been for the last 10 or 15 or like Jamal Crawford and god bless him Like I think we all have been fans of him over the course of his career and and stuff but I think that it's starting to shift and I think Brock didn't quickly were kind of of that ill to have like guys that play some defense They put up numbers, too That's where I'm saying and I think quite frankly Rohan pointed it out If Chris Paul at times is not out there as part of their ending five That's the sort of thing I'd see is potentially cutting into his argument of it's a team that is really loaded Also on the wing sometime, you know Just where if he's not part of that that closing five does that hurt his case if he's hurt Because he's Chris Paul and he's older and misses a couple weeks does that hurt his case if someone like quickly is playing 80 games and Scoring more than him and plays really good defense.
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Patriots promised me they'd win the Super Bowl. That'd be pretty legendary. When CarMax offers an unrivaled 30 day money back guarantee up to 1500 miles, well, that's legendary too. CarMax never wants you to settle on a car. They want you to love your next car. That's why every car from CarMax has upfront pricing and an unbeatable love it or return it. 30 day money back guarantee up to 1500 miles. Shop a nationwide inventory on your terms. That's car buying reimagined. Start now shopping to find a car you'll love at carmax .com. We're also brought to you by The Ringer Podcast Network. I forgot to mention on Tuesday's pod, we put up a new rewatchables on Monday. We did So I Married an Axe Murderer, one of my favorite nineties comedies, and it was me and Sean Fennesey and Chris Ryan. We had a great time. I put up a lot of content this week because we had the three part NBA under podcast as well with Rossello and House. Did Sunday's pod, had this pod. Sorry for all the content. It's a lot of me, a lot of talking. I do have some Ringer news for you. Austin Rivers. Yeah. He is spinning off onto his own feed that is called Off Guard. It's Austin Rivers and Pasha. They've moved on Tuesdays and Fridays. They're going to be putting up podcasts. Make sure you follow it on Spotify. Also in that Ringer NBA show feed, the group chat podcast, which is excellent with Barrier and Woz and Mahoney, they're going to be going now basically Sunday, late morning, early afternoon -ish and then Wednesdays. So they're moving to twice a week. So that's our basketball news. Also, we had our first true crime pod, the first Ringer true crime pod we've ever done. Justin Sales, my guy, New Englander, still kept the accent. One of our finest. And he pitched us this really, really, really great seven part series about how he got scammed. That is what episode one is about. And it just keeps going. It keeps going, gets weirder, gets weirder. There's no way you're not going to like it if you like true crime. So check it out. It's called Wedding Scammer. It is the Ringer's first true crime podcast. I also went on Jimmy Trainor's podcast this week. So if you want to hear me talk about me, which I hate usually, but I did it on that podcast. I'm on there as well. Coming up on this podcast, Howard Beck from the Ringer talking about John Morant, James Harden, some other stealth storylines heading into opening night on Tuesday. And then Million Dollar Picks, feeling really good about the Million Dollar Picks this week. And then Arno Hwani, our guy, talking Knicks, talking Bills, talking the big UFC event this week, talking about the influencer boxing thing he did last week and some WWAW stuff. And then I thought I'd end the podcast there. No, no, because we launched a new segment that we're probably spinning off into another podcast. We talk about it during the segment, but Amanda Dobbins came on to talk about The Morning Show, which is the worst good show on TV. It's either the best bad show on TV or the worst good show on TV. Just make sure worst is somewhere in there. It is just inexplicable. It's unbelievable. I can't stop watching every episode. I hate myself for it. Amanda and I are gonna break down all the reasons why we just can't believe the show exists. That is the podcast. First, our friends from ProGip. Show"] ["The Morning All right, Howard Beck is here. He works for The Ringer. We love having him. We're gonna talk some NBA storylines. I did four hours of NBA preview content on with Monday Priscillo and House, and it already feels like seven things have happened since we did that. The biggest one was ESPN wrote a huge story about John Marrant. It's written by Baxter Holmes and who was the other one? Tim McMahon? Yeah, that they reported for a while. Tim McMahon. The timing of it was interesting, heading into the week of the season. I also thought Jaa's absence was being slept on a little bit, especially when we're talking about The Futures, where I think their over -under was like 44 and a half, 45 and a half, and I was like, Jaa's gone for 25 games? This feels like a big deal. Plus, what are we getting when he comes back? And you read that story, and it was mostly stuff that had been around or stuff that was out there. There was some unflattering stuff in there, but in general, I left that story going, hmm. Now the narrative is going to be this story was out there. There's a bigger spotlight on, but now it's actually a little bit better for Jaa in a way, because the attention, now you can kind of use that. Nobody believes in me that this is, I don't know. I was wondering, how do you think that story and the whole blow around it affects him and his comeback? Well, it's interesting. By the way, I'm only about 90 minutes into your five -hour marathon on the over -under. Yeah, maybe over the weekend. But I listen to pods while they wash dishes or while I'm on the treadmill. I'm gonna just have to, I need more dirty dishes and I need to get into better shape. And by the time the end of the week, I'll be through it. No, I mean, you were right to flag that, right? Ja Morant, not there on media day. So he still has not spoken to anybody in the media, to the public in general, since this 25 -game suspension was handed down by Adam Silver, that the story came out now. Look, I haven't talked to our friends at ESPN about reporting the process and everything else, but those things take time. I don't think anybody should read into it that it dropped now, it's relevant now. We're going into seasons opening up next week and one of their brightest young stars won't be there under really unique and troubling circumstances. Well, it seems like they also talk to every local business owner in Memphis because there was a bunch of them. So you could tell they worked on it for months and months. For sure. And by the way, neither of those guys is Memphis -based. I think like McMahon has responsibility for a lot of teams and Memphis might be one of his and Baxter is just kind of more like all -purpose investigative guy. So if you're not based there, so there's the first challenge. As I'm reading this as a reporter, my first thought is like, wow, either somebody pointed you in the right direction, like you need to go talk to this restaurant owner or this might've been strip club owner, this bar owner, whoever. Cause if not, you're just kind of making the rounds and trying to get a fee. Like you could do that. You could do a lot of just like the shoe leather reporting, but that's tough when you're not based there and you don't have that local network of people. They talked to obviously some really important voices there. People who knew not just the on -court version of this or what the internal politics of the Grizzlies are, but how he's being perceived in the community. And it also tracks Bill with a lot of the other incidents that have been reported on in the last six to eight months, right? It's not just issues with, obviously flashing guns is the big thing right now, but it's not even just issues with how he's conducting himself within the organization with teammates or coaches or team officials. Social media judgment. Social media judgment, but the attitude or the entitlement issues that seem to present themselves with these local business owners, who I think we're all speaking anonymously, tracks with a lot of the stuff that was like the shoe store incident, the mall incident and all these other things, right? There's a pattern here. And so I think the story is really valuable in that sense. It's giving us a more full picture that this is an ongoing issue on a variety of levels, even including just the way he carries himself around Memphis. The other thing that struck me, yeah. Well, there was one piece in there. I knew most of this stuff or I had heard secondhand, but I think the people like us, we just talk to a lot of people. So you get a general vibe of where things are going or what things are happening. The one thing that was in the story that I never really thought about, one of the anonymous owners was saying, and this guy was the biggest celebrity we've had since Elvis. And I read that and I did like a double take and I'm like, is that true? And I'm thinking about it. I'm like, yeah, that's probably true. Like who, it's not like any of the, they had Zebo, they had Pau Gasol, they had Derrick Rose when he was at the University of Memphis. But for the most part, I hadn't really thought of it that way. And then you think like this young, kick -ass, incredibly fun to watch star just drops in their lap as like the consolation prize in the Zion draft and then becomes what he becomes in a small city and just becomes the guy. And I guess I'd never really wrap my head around that. But when I read that, did you do a double take when you saw that? I did and I guess I chuckled a little bit because it's just such a like, whoa, wait, hold on. Well, cause we're old enough to remember when Elvis died, that was like the biggest thing that happened in 1977.
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"And she died at 4 12 a.m. she had puncture wounds to her throat and lungs but she probably had died largely of blood loss and it entered shock and that was it so I don't you can't really say yes she definitely would have survived but perhaps her her chances of survival would have been higher had they gone out and searched for and found her a couple hours earlier yeah I think for sure my initial reaction was to be you know like what the heck with this Ranger but again this is 1967 it was a different time they didn't have the resources they do now they didn't I'm sure now if there's any kind of bear situation they a they know exactly what to do and exactly how to handle it and be they have I would imagine they have all kinds of tranquilizers or just more guns and stuff to deal with this kind of thing that they didn't have back then it I mean it sounded like if they would have gone after this bear it might have been one park ranger who maybe had a pistol maybe didn't and then a bunch of other people with you know baseball bats or something like they weren't prepared so I tried not to judge too harshly yeah this guy said hey let's wait because they they had never encountered something like this before and I think rightfully so like people don't usually make decisions out of cowardice it's normally there's some other line of thinking that in hindsight proved to be a bad decision agreed so that was the unfortunate death of Julie Helgeson she was very terribly mauled and died of blood loss and wounds to her lungs and throat Michelle Coons just hours later essentially around the same time that Julie Helgeson was dying in a makeshift operating room at the the chalet a bear was wandering up to Michelle and her her group's sleeping bags that they had set up around a campfire on a beach because that same bear had already visited them all the way back at 8 p.m. and caused them to split yeah yeah that bear came up this bear came back a few times it was it was a very bad one of those things again in hindsight you you're like they should have gotten out of there but you know what kind of detail all the reasons why they had gone fishing they you know they set up by this Great Lake not Capitol Great Lake but this amazing lake oh right they went fishing they're one of the guys that was with them was just 16 years old like these were kids you know and he caught one fish he called a rainbow trout augmented that meal with some hot dogs grilled it up and that grizzly like you said at 8 p.m. came wandering around and they took off they watched this bear from a short distance eat that food and then grab one of their backpacks and take it away and this is a point where like they could have gotten the heck out of there but they were like it's getting dark we don't know what to do this bear left it got our food so it's probably fine now right and also if we're gonna get out of here we got to go through this berry bush field that are you know that's tall berries or bears love those berries so they're you know that bear may be there there baby maybe more bears so let's go down here to the beach area let's build a huge fire to try and help keep the bear away and they old campsite smart and then line their sleeping bags up around this campfire but very key here they did bring some food they brought some cookies and some cheese it's so that camp new campsite so is that the idea that that that was what attracted the bear back again the food yeah the the cheese it's I mean it was food and thereafter food so okay we should also say one other thing as they were before they even reached trout lake in the afternoon when they were on their hike to it they passed some other hikers who said that they had been recently chased up a tree by a grizzly around that area and they were like there nuts to that we're gonna keep going and that that same bear they believe also it turned out actually they not even they didn't believe it like it was the that same troublesome bear that had been chasing Girl Scouts around and had had been a problem all summer because it was underfed and emaciated and apparently that's a really good way for a bear to start acting and behaving very oddly and aggressively is when it's underfed that's right so this same bear that has been overly aggressive toward everybody it means it seems like came back again after the eight o'clock visit came back at 3 a.m. in the middle of the night one of them wakes up sees that that fire is has basically died out and he jumped up start rebuilding this fire again really quickly and apparently set those cookies down on that log barrier that they had between it and the old campsite so now it's 3 a.m. they all decide the bear takes these cookies and goes away and they all decide listen we're gonna stay awake for the rest of the night because now we're out here in the middle of the night we're genuinely stuck like we can't just hike off in the darkness and so they decide to all stay awake together so man I would have been quite scared by this time this is the second time the bear visited right yeah 8 o'clock p.m. 3 a.m. constantly just taking this food and then now we get back to 4 30 a.m. when the bear returns a final time and this time it just goes straight up aggressive I don't know if it's because they ran out of food and the bear didn't like the fact that they didn't have any more food or what but it bit one of the guys sleeping bags she clotted his sweatshirt so now we get back to 4 30 a.m.
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"Alright so we're gonna take this one horrible incident at a time and we're gonna start with the story of you mentioned earlier Julie Helgeson. Man that is really hard for some reason. I want to say a different word but it's it was Julie Helgeson she was from Minnesota and she was 19 years old yeah along with her friend that we're gonna meet who also lost her life Michelle Koons. They were both working summer jobs at Glacier. I imagine in the late 60s at Glacier it was it was probably pretty great. I mean Glacier is an amazing place even today. But back then I imagine it was a pretty awesome summer job to have. Yeah so I think Julie was working in the laundry facility and Michelle was working in a gift shop and that makes the whole thing even more bizarre to me because they knew each other. They both set out on separate hikes on the afternoon of Saturday August 12th 1967 and they knew each other well enough that Julie and her crew invited Michelle or no vice versa Michelle and her crew of five other friends and a dog named Squirt invited Julie and her friend I'm getting boyfriend vibes Roy Ducat to join them but Michelle and her group were going somewhere I think they were going to Trout Lake and Julie and Roy had been to Trout Lake the weekend before so they wanted to go on a different hike to Granite Park Chalet and they all set out and these were these were experienced hikers they knew what they were doing and they were off to have a good weekend overnight camping trip out in the woods in the back country is what they call it but the back country is another word for wild territory. That's right I imagine they you know we say they knew each other imagine it was a pretty tight-knit group back then there are many many more employees now at these national parks than there were back then and you know these they were the same age and they were teens working this like amazing summer job so we're talking about Helgeson and Ducat at this point they hitchhiked to this and if you've ever driven down this road it's amazing it's called the going to the Sun Road road well it's really not because you don't actually go to the Sun oh I guess going toward the Sun Road would be what it should be coming but they went to spend the night at this Chalet initially but the Chalet was full and so back in the days where when you could be surprised by something like that and when they got there they they saw it was full and they said all right well we'll just go camp about 500 yards away we'll go camp in the woods sort of the immediate backcountry and they ate dinner they watch the sunset off that road and they take it they didn't have tents because they thought they were gonna be the Chalet no so they just bedded down in their sleeping bags on the ground outside I've seen sleeping bag oh that's why I took it to possibly be her boyfriend but I could have zipped I guess so I forgot you could do that there's one thing we should say about the Chalet Granite Park Chalet that they hiked to and were camping near that was the site of a purposeful feeding area that the managers of the Chalet were throwing out food scraps to attract the Bears for the entertainment of their guests and just four days before this some Rangers had visited Granite Park Chalet saw what they were doing and we're like you can't do that stop doing that and the manager like sure sure we'll definitely stop doing that so these guys are open-air camping about five football fields away from that very Chalet that's right so after they're in their bags at night just after midnight a bear arrived grizzly bear to their camping spot and you know some of this stuff has has come out later in different forms whether it was interviews with survivors after the fact or that Sports Illustrated story or them writing about it years later and they tried to piece it you know together as best they can but I did see some of the details kind of varied here and there among the accounts but what we do know is that Ducat said later on that Julie had seen the bear and woke him up and said hey there's a bear here and from what I read in Sports Illustrated was about ten feet away but it was definitely a bear and so she's like play dead the bear did not fall for that and began mauling Ducat got to his arms his legs and his back and then left him alone and then dragged poor Julie Helgeson off yeah and so Ducat ran in there were other people camping nearby and you know the chalet was five football fields away but there was probably help there so they were screaming they were using their flashlights to flash SOS and they managed to get the attention of some people who called for a helicopter and they came and got Ducat and he said well don't forget Julie she's out there somewhere apparently a ranger who would have been in charge of sending out the search party waited about two hours before he finally said okay let's go out and find her because he was concerned about putting other people's lives in danger additional lives in danger searching for her because we might run into that bear and that I don't know if that caused her death I mean the bear caused her death but that might have helped seal her fate it's two hours yeah that was two hours they finally found her this happened just after midnight remember they finally found her and got her to the chalet at 3 45 a.m.
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So just go to syskvinyl.com and order yours now. They ship out on October 20th. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio. Hey everybody, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Jerry's here too, and this is Stuff You Should Know. Let's go. Oh, you like that one? I did. I'd also like this title that Livia gave this one. Yes. It's very fun. Can I read it? Sure. The night that transformed bare human relations. It's pretty straightforward and says everything you need to say. Yeah, it's actually sadly very accurate. Yeah, and yet, despite it being that straightforward, there's a pretty interesting story hidden amid those letters. Sounds like a crossword clue. It does. I feel like we should tell that story now, or else really what are we doing here, Chuck? Alright, well I think this is one of those, unfortunately, we can't just sort of play out as a teaser to reveal what happens. I think we kind of need to say what actually happened and then tell that story, yeah? Alright. Did you want to tease this thing out? No. Okay. I'm just being difficult. Because what we're talking about is a very sad night, August of 1967, when two young women, two 19-year-old women were killed by two, and here's the kicker, two different bears in two different places in the same national park. If it was one bear that just went crazy or something and they were all camping together, that would be obviously tragic, but not like, hey, we need to really look at what's going on here, and that's what happened because it was two bears in two places. Yeah, and the reason why it was such a kicker is because in the 57 years leading up to that, that Glacier National Park was a national park, only three other people had ever been killed by grizzly bears, and then all of a sudden it went from three people in 57 years to two women in two separate incidents in one night. That is crazy, and it really did kick off this national conversation about should grizzly bears stay alive as a species because we like living in national parks. Do we have the right to do that kind of thing? It's a pretty interesting story. It's got a lot of facets to it, and I feel like we should talk a little bit about grizzly bears first because I didn't realize that they were just a subspecies of brown bear, although that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, grizzlies are brown bears. They are generally darker than brown bears in coloring. They're generally smaller. They can be a couple hundred pounds up to about 600, and it's interesting here because I think it depends on where you live and who you ask. Usually brown bears are called brown bears when they're more coastal, like the ones you see grabbing that salmon out of the river you would call a brown bear. I thought that was a grizzly. Whereas if you live inland and you're a bear, a brown bear, you're called a grizzly, but then I also saw people talking about coastal grizzlies, so it may be one of those names that's just sort of been tacked onto a lot of brown bears. Yeah. I think it's just, you know, it's confusing. Yeah, but they're brown bears. Yeah, they're brown bears, which makes them, you know, and they're a relatively small brown bear. There's a type of brown bear called a Kodiak that gets up to 10 feet tall when it's standing on its hind legs. No, thank you. Grizzlies are not nearly that big, but they're still big enough. I mean, the males can get up to about 600 pounds, and there used to be a lot more of them than there are today. The early 19th century, I think around the time of Lewis and Clark, there was an estimated 50,000 to 100,000 grizzly bears. They went all the way from Canada down to Mexico. They were in every what's now states along the West, all the way over to the Great Plains. There was a ton of them. And then as we started to move out there, we meaning white American settlers and colonists, part of what that whole westward expansion included was not just wiping out Native Americans, it was also wiping out large carnivores too. Yeah, like when they talk about taming the West, that's what they mean. It's like, let's go out there and kill things. And they did this for a few reasons. Sometimes it was because they had cattle that they wanted to take care of, or, you know, occasionally if they thought they were in harm's way, they might kill a bear. But a lot of it was just that sort of, I was about to say human nature, but really man's nature, at least some men, not me or you, to want to kill big, beautiful animals because they're big and beautiful and, you know, I guess could be considered dangerous. You got to keep an eye on those people because they can very quickly become real like most dangerous game types. Right. That's right. So by the time 1967 rolls around, when the two 19-year-old women who died lost their lives, and I'll just go ahead and say their names are Julie Helgeson, man, and Michelle Koons, by the time they died in August of 1967, grizzly bears had been wiped out so thoroughly that they had a territory that was about 2% of what it had once been. Mostly they were in national parks because those were protected areas, and there was something like under a thousand of them in the entire continental United States. Yeah, that's, 2% is great when you're talking milk, it's not great when you're talking about animal populations. Did you write that one down? I didn't, it just came to me when I saw 2%. Good stuff, man. Very nice. Here's the weird thing though, is, and it seems rather counterintuitive, there were more, even though there were fewer bears, there were more human encounters with these bears for this very reason, and as we'll see, this is what, part of what led to this huge mess, and it's really hard to, if you're our age, and maybe obviously younger, you don't realize that national parks weren't always these places where they really were smart about everything they did, because at the time, they would do some crazy things in national parks. They would try and get bears around, they would leave food out. They would, there was one story here that Livia found where, and luckily a park ranger kind of stopped this in the act, but these parents brought a bear over with some food with a candy bar, and then tried to put their 18 month old on this bear's back to take a picture. Yeah, there's a story in that same article about a guy who was trying to lure a bear into his car to get a photo of it behind the wheel. Yeah. Just people interacting with, again, 600 pound grizzly bears, they can just take your head clean off if they want to, but that's the thing. They are really unpredictable, and for the most part, they're vegetarians, I think plants make up something like 90% of their diets, and a lot of times, they're, I don't want to say docile, but the 18 month old baby survived, and so did the mom, and so did the dad. If that bear had acted any differently, they wouldn't have survived, so I saw that their personalities can best be summed up as unpredictable, but at the time, in the 60s, that is not the impression people had of bears. They were kind of considered a lot more gentle. There was a park ranger who was quoted by Jack Olson, who we'll meet in a little while, who said that on a scale of, a danger scale, where a butterfly is a zero and a rattlesnake is a 10, the grizzlies of Glacier Park would have to rate somewhere between zero and one. That is entirely wrong. He really should have said they rate between a zero and a 10, and you have no idea what it's going to be at any given moment if you encounter a bear. Yeah, and like a lot of large animals like this, when there is a, you know, their accident, so I'm going to call it an accidental killing, because bears weren't like, ooh, human, let me go eat them. Like you said, they're mostly vegetarian, and even when they ate stuff that was non-vegetarian, it wasn't like, oh, boy, let me go chow down on that person. It was, let me go chow down on that person's steak by the fire or the fish that they're cooking or something like that. And so when there is an accident, it's usually one of a couple of things. It's either the sort of familiar scenario of where you stumble upon a bear and scare them, or they may have their cubs around them, might be a mama with some cubs. Or it is that bear that's like, wait a minute, that's my food. You're eating that fish out of that river. I want it. So let's go. Yeah, apparently they defend their food like it's, like with the most jealous violence that they need to, like that is their food, even if it's your food. Yeah, exactly, because that bear thinks it's their food, because it's their territory. And the other thing that Libby was keen to point out, which is like, it sounds sort of funny at first, but it really is a thing that you need to pay attention to, is the Yogi Bear cartoon was a big thing. And Yogi and Boo Boo as these sort of friendly bears going after the picnic basket, that came about because that's what it was like. It wasn't like someone said, I got this crazy idea. Let's take these ferocious animals and make them Hanna-Barbera, and let's make them into a lovable cartoon character. It was like, no, that's when you went to these national parks. Like you said, people are luring bears around. They're like, ooh, take my picnic basket if I can take a picture, pick a picture, pick a picture, pick a picture. I'm just trying to make that into a funny picnic thing. Anyway, that's how things were. So that's why they made that cartoon. And that was just sort of what was going on. Like they literally at Glacier, at one, oh, I'm sorry, this is at Yellowstone, but they were doing similar things in Glacier. At Yellowstone, they put bleachers up around the open air dumps so people could show up and watch the bear show, which was bears wandering in to eat. Yeah. So a lot of people rightfully lay a lot of the blame for the deaths in 1967 at the feet of the administrators of national parks at the time because they were using the bears as entertainment. And at the very least, even if they weren't in some of the parks, they were not instructing the public on how to interact with bears and just how dangerous bears were. And that was a huge problem because like you said, people were treating them like they were just these docile, gentle animals that wouldn't do them any harm. And then the other factor that kind of gets overlooked is that this is right after the national highway system had really been developed and people were hitting the road. So these national parks were suddenly just swamped with tourists for the first time in their history. So people were, there were far fewer bears, but there were a lot more people all up in the bears' drills than there ever had been in human history. Yeah. And leading up to this specific incident, and we'll detail a little bit more of this after, I guess we'll take a break here in a couple of minutes. But at Glacier, there were sort of in the days leading up, there were a lot of alarming incidences where bears were becoming way more aggressive, or if you're watching a cartoon, way more friendly than they had been. There were fires that came through the park in the summer of 67, so that shrank their habitat some and kind of squeezed them into a smaller area. And there was one bear in particular that had been reported a few different times. I went back, I'm sure you did too, and read this great original Sports Illustrated article. Who was it that wrote that? Jack Olson. Yeah, Jack Olson is kind of the standard account of this horrific event. But this bear, it was an emaciated female who was underweight, had been reported a lot going up to people, being very brazen and, you know, not like typically when you see a bear, if you ever watch these outdoor shows, you start yelling at the bear, like get out of here or clank in a pot and the bear usually is going to leave. Bears are scared and they don't want to be around people. But this bear was not taking any orders and not doing any of the things that a bear would usually do. It would just come into a camp and start eating and not leave until they wanted to leave, this skinny lady bear. Right. So we have in the Western National Park System, a situation where bears have become acclimated to humans. They're totally fine with being really close to humans, kind of not scared of us. And then also they had become habituated on human food and garbage. And they now associated humans with food and they were no longer scared of humans. There were a huge population of bears in the Western parks with lots of humans coming to see them. All right. Well, let's that sounds like a very natural place to stop things and never come back. But we do. We have to tell this this bad story. So we'll be back right after this.
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So just go to syskvinyl .com and order yours now. They ship out on October 20th. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio. Hey everybody, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Jerry's here too, and this is Stuff You Should Know. Let's go. Oh, you like that one? I did. I'd also like this title that Livia gave this one. Yes. It's very fun. Can I read it? Sure. The night that transformed bare human relations. It's pretty straightforward and says everything you need to say. Yeah, it's actually sadly very accurate. Yeah, and yet, despite it being that straightforward, there's a pretty interesting story hidden amid those letters. Sounds like a crossword clue. It does. I feel like we should tell that story now, or else really what are we doing here, Chuck? Alright, well I think this is one of those, unfortunately, we can't just sort of play out as a teaser to reveal what happens. I think we kind of need to say what actually happened and then tell that story, yeah? Alright. Did you want to tease this thing out? No. Okay. I'm just being difficult. Because what we're talking about is a very sad night, August of 1967, when two young women, two 19 -year -old women were killed by two, and here's the kicker, two different bears in two different places in the same national park. If it was one bear that just went crazy or something and they were all camping together, that would be obviously tragic, but not like, hey, we need to really look at what's going on here, and that's what happened because it was two bears in two places. Yeah, and the reason why it was such a kicker is because in the 57 years leading up to that, that Glacier National Park was a national park, only three other people had ever been killed by grizzly bears, and then all of a sudden it went from three people in 57 years to two women in two separate incidents in one night. That is crazy, and it really did kick off this national conversation about should grizzly bears stay alive as a species because we like living in national parks. Do we have the right to do that kind of thing? It's a pretty interesting story. It's got a lot of facets to it, and I feel like we should talk a little bit about grizzly bears first because I didn't realize that they were just a subspecies of brown bear, although that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, grizzlies are brown bears. They are generally darker than brown bears in coloring. They're generally smaller. They can be a couple hundred pounds up to about 600, and it's interesting here because I think it depends on where you live and who you ask. Usually bears brown are called brown bears when they're more coastal, like the ones you see grabbing that salmon out of the river you would call a brown bear. I thought that was a grizzly. Whereas if you live inland and you're a bear, a brown bear, you're called a grizzly, but then I also saw people talking about coastal grizzlies, so it may be one of those names that's just sort of been tacked onto a lot of brown bears. Yeah. I think it's just, you know, it's confusing. Yeah, but they're brown bears. Yeah, they're brown bears, which makes them, you know, and they're a relatively small brown bear. There's a type of brown bear called a Kodiak that gets up to 10 feet tall when it's standing on its hind legs. No, thank you. Grizzlies are not nearly that big, but they're still big enough. I mean, the males can get up to about 600 pounds, and there used to be a lot more of them than there are today. The early 19th century, I think around the time of Lewis and Clark, there was an estimated 50 ,000 to 100 ,000 grizzly bears. They went all the way from Canada down to Mexico. They were in every what's now states along the West, all the way over to the Great Plains. There was a ton of them. And then as we started to move out there, we meaning white American settlers and colonists, part of what that whole westward expansion included was not just wiping out Native Americans, it was also wiping out large carnivores too. Yeah, like when they talk about taming the West, that's what they mean. It's like, let's go out there and kill things. And they did this for a few reasons. Sometimes it was because they had cattle that they wanted to take care of, or, you know, occasionally if they thought they were in harm's way, they might kill a bear. But a lot of it was just that sort of, I was about to say human nature, but really man's nature, at least some men, not me or you, to want to kill big, beautiful animals because they're big and beautiful and, you know, I guess could be considered dangerous. You got to keep an eye on those people because they can very quickly become real like most dangerous game types. Right. That's right. So by the time 1967 rolls around, when the two 19 -year -old women who died lost their lives, and I'll just go ahead and say their names are Julie Helgeson, man, and Michelle Koons, by the time they died in August of 1967, grizzly bears had been wiped out so thoroughly that they had a territory that was about 2 % of what it had once been. Mostly they were in national parks because those were protected areas, and there was something like under a thousand of them in the entire continental United States. Yeah, that's, 2 % is great when you're talking milk, it's not great when you're talking about animal populations. Did you write that one down? I didn't, it just came to me when I saw 2%. Good stuff, man. Very nice. Here's the weird thing though, is, and it seems rather counterintuitive, there were more, even though there were fewer bears, there were more human encounters with these bears for this very reason, and as we'll see, this is what, part of what led to this huge mess, and it's really hard to, if you're our age, and maybe obviously younger, you don't realize that national parks weren't always these places where they really were smart about everything they did, because at the time, they would do some crazy things in national parks. They would try and get bears around, they would leave food out. They would, there was one story here that Livia found where, and luckily a park ranger kind of stopped this in the act, but these parents brought a bear over with some food with a candy bar, and then tried to put their 18 month old on this bear's back to take a picture. Yeah, there's a story in that same article about a guy who was trying to lure a bear into his car to get a photo of it behind the wheel. Yeah. Just people interacting with, again, 600 pound grizzly bears, they can just take your head clean off if they want to, but that's the thing. They are really unpredictable, and for the most part, they're vegetarians, I think plants make up something like 90 % of their diets, and a lot of times, they're, I don't want to say docile, but the 18 month old baby survived, and so did the mom, and so did the dad. If that bear had acted any differently, they wouldn't have survived, so I saw that their personalities can best be summed up as unpredictable, but at the time, in the 60s, that is not the impression people had of bears. They were kind of considered a lot more gentle. There was a park ranger who was quoted by Jack Olson, who we'll meet in a little while, who said that on a scale of, a danger scale, where a butterfly is a zero and a rattlesnake is a 10, the grizzlies of Glacier Park would have to rate somewhere between zero and one. That is entirely wrong. He really should have said they rate between a zero and a 10, and you have no idea what it's going to be at any given moment if you encounter a bear. Yeah, and like a lot of large animals like this, when there is a, you know, their accident, so I'm going to call it an accidental killing, because bears weren't like, ooh, human, let me go eat them. Like you said, they're mostly vegetarian, and even when they ate stuff that was non -vegetarian, it wasn't like, oh, boy, let me go chow down on that person. It was, let me go chow down on that person's steak by the fire or the fish that they're cooking or something like that. And so when there is an accident, it's usually one of a couple of things. It's either the sort of familiar scenario of where you stumble upon a bear and scare them, or they may have their cubs around them, might be a mama with some cubs. Or it is that bear that's like, wait a minute, that's my food. You're eating that fish out of that river. I want it. So let's go. Yeah, apparently they defend their food like it's, like with the most jealous violence that they need to, like that is their food, even if it's your food. Yeah, exactly, because that bear thinks it's their food, because it's their territory. And the other thing that Libby was keen to point out, which is like, it sounds sort of funny at first, but it really is a thing that you need to pay attention to, is the Yogi Bear cartoon was a big thing. And Yogi and Boo Boo as these sort of friendly bears going after the picnic basket, that came about because that's what it was like. It wasn't like someone said, I got this crazy idea. Let's take these ferocious animals and make them Hanna -Barbera, and let's make them into a lovable cartoon character. It was like, no, that's when you went to these national parks. Like you said, people are luring bears around. They're like, ooh, take my picnic basket if I can take a picture, pick a picture, pick a picture, pick a picture. I'm just trying to make that into a funny picnic thing. Anyway, that's how things were. So that's why they made that cartoon. And that was just sort of what was going on. Like they literally at Glacier, at one, oh, I'm sorry, this is at Yellowstone, but they were doing similar things in Glacier. At Yellowstone, they put bleachers up around the open air dumps so people could show up and watch the bear show, which was bears wandering in to eat. Yeah. So a lot of people rightfully lay a lot of the blame for the deaths in 1967 at the feet of the administrators of national parks at the time because they were using the bears as entertainment. And at the very least, even if they weren't in some of the parks, they were not instructing the public on how to interact with bears and just how dangerous bears were. And that was a huge problem because like you said, people were treating them like they were just these docile, gentle animals that wouldn't do them any harm. And then the other factor that kind of gets overlooked is that this is right after the national highway system had really been developed and people were hitting the road. So these national parks were suddenly just swamped with tourists for the first time in their history. So people were, there were far fewer bears, but there were a lot more people all up in the bears' drills than there ever had been in human history. Yeah. And leading up to this specific incident, and we'll detail a little bit more of this after, I guess we'll take a break here in a couple of minutes. But at Glacier, there were sort of in the days leading up, there were a lot of alarming incidences where bears were becoming way more aggressive, or if you're watching a cartoon, way more friendly than they had been. There were fires that came through the park in the summer of 67, so that shrank their habitat some and kind of squeezed them into a smaller area. And there was one bear in particular that had been reported a few different times. I went back, I'm sure you did too, and read this great original Sports Illustrated article. Who was it that wrote that? Jack Olson. Yeah, Jack Olson is kind of the standard account of this horrific event. But this bear, it was an emaciated female who was underweight, had been reported a lot going up to people, being very brazen and, you know, not like typically when you see a bear, if you ever watch these outdoor shows, you start yelling at the bear, like get out of here or clank in a pot and the bear usually is going to leave. Bears are scared and they don't want to be around people. But this bear was not taking any orders and not doing any of the things that a bear would usually do. It would just come into a camp and start eating and not leave until they wanted to leave, this skinny lady bear. Right. So we have in the Western National Park System, a situation where bears have become acclimated to humans. They're totally fine with being really close to humans, kind of not scared of us. And then also they had become habituated on human food and garbage. And they now associated humans with food and they were no longer scared of humans. There were a huge population of bears in the Western parks with lots of humans coming to see them. All right. Well, let's that sounds like a very natural place to stop things and never come back. But we do. We have to tell this this bad story. So we'll be back right after this.
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Ja Morant is 'fine,' taking a social media break, police say after welfare check due to cryptic post
"Police in Tennessee conducted a welfare check Wednesday on suspended Memphis Grizzlies guard Ja Morant and say he is fine after cryptic messages appeared on his Instagram account and were later deleted. The post from earlier Wednesday include pictures and messages of love for his family members, including his mother and father, a fourth message simply read by. Shelby county sheriff's office spokesman John Morrison told The Associated Press in a phone call that deputies checked on morant at his home Wednesday morning. Morant told them he is taking a break from social media. I'm geffen coolbaugh.
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Ja Morant in limbo again as he awaits review of latest gun video on social media
"Grizzly star John morant says he takes accountability for the latest video in which he is apparently seen holding a firearm. His statement came shortly after NBA commissioner Adam silver expressed disappointment that the Memphis guard is under investigation by the league again. Silver met with morant after a similar incident in March and suspended him for a games. Silver said he was quote shocked. When he saw the video during a televised interview with ESPN before Tuesday's draft lottery in Chicago. I'm get cool ball.
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"John morant was suspended by the Memphis Grizzlies on Sunday after he appeared to be holding a gun in another social media video streamed live on Instagram the first led to an 8 game NBA suspension that was handed down in March. It's unclear what sanctions may face for the second video, which was captured Saturday night and widely shared online.
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NBA: Celtics advance, Grizzlies Mornat suspended, Golden Knights take Oilers
"AP sports I'm Tom Miriam. Jayson Tatum scored an NBA game 7 record 51 points to leave the Celtics to a one 1288 victory over the 76ers to put the defending Eastern Conference champs back in the east final against the heat starting on Wednesday. Off the court the grizzlies of again suspended star guard John morant after video surfaced of him holding a gun. The golden knights advanced to the west final by eliminating Connor McDavid and the oilers in game 6, 5 to two behind Jonathan Marshall's hat trick. Baseball, the Dodgers topped the Padres for their 5th straight victory, and now have the best record in the national league as the braves lost their fourth straight to the Blue Jays. The rays added to baseball's best record overall by edging the Yankees 8 to 7, thanks to Taylor walls Grand Slam. NASCAR William Byron was the darling of Darlington, winning the Goodyear 400 over Kevin Harvick in overtime, and in golf a big day for Jason Day as he won the Byron Nelson classic with a final round 62. Tom Arian AP sports
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Lakers obliterate Grizzlies 125-85, advance to 2nd round
"The Lakers advanced to the second round of the playoffs after crushing the grizzlies by 40 in the game 6 clincher, one 25 to 85 D'angelo Russell made 5 three point buckets and finished with 31 points. Definitely a big game, so anytime you can make big shots and a big game, it's going to be a good feeling. LeBron James had 22 and Anthony Davis pulled down 14 rebounds, Memphis star John Moran finished with just ten points on three of 16 shooting. The Lakers will now await the winner of the warrior's king series, Mark Myers Los Angeles
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Morant, Grizzlies stave off elimination, beat Lakers 116-99
"The grizzly stayed alive is three of their players had double doubles in a one 1699 decision over the Lakers. Desmond Bain delivered 33 points and ten rebounds. John morant had 31 points and ten boards, and jaren Jackson junior added 18 points and ten rebounds. Morant says the board battle was big. Definitely something we needed, you know, to get a win and something, you know, coach challenge us to do was, you know, for us to rebound. So that's good. Memphis led by just two with four and a half minutes left in the third quarter before embarking on a 26 to run. Anthony Davis pays the Lakers with 31 points in 19 rebounds. Game 6 is Friday in Los Angeles. I'm Dave ferry.
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LeBron leads Lakers past Grizz 117-111 in OT for 3-1 lead
"In an overtime thriller the Lakers beat the grizzlies in game four one 17 to one 11. LeBron James scored the tying layup in the last second of regulation to send the game to OT. He finished with 20 points and 20 rebounds. I'm just trying to be as great as I can be all offensively, but even more important defensive end. And so that was kind of the mindset tonight. Austin Reeves scored 23 Desmond bane was high man for the grizzlies with 36 John morant had 19, Mark Myers, Los Angeles
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Sixers sweep Nets, NHL overtime action
"AP sports, I'm Bruce Morton, Philadelphia, without big man Joel embiid, went into Brooklyn and completed a sweep of the nets with a 96 88 victory. Phoenix took a three games to one lead on the clippers by winning in Los Angeles one 12 100, with Giannis ate to compo out due to injury, the bucks fell at Miami one 21 to 99. The heat lead that series two games to one, and the Lakers led all the way, topping Memphis one 11 one O one. The grizzlies trail, two games to one. Baseball, the rays got by the White Sox four three, good for a fourth straight win. In the national league Pittsburgh moved out to a 15 and 7 start with a two one decision over the reds. Hockey, Vegas went to double overtime before winning at Winnipeg 5 four. The Maple Leafs only needed one over time to defeat Tampa Bay four three. Ditto for the Devils who won in the extra session over the rival rangers two one, and in regulation time, Colorado won at Seattle 6 four. Bruce Morton, AP sports
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No Ja Morant, no problem as Grizzlies tie up Lakers at 1-1
"The grizzlies have tied their first round series at a game of peace with a one O three 93 downing of the Lakers. Xavier Tillman provided a career high 22 points and 13 rebounds, helping Memphis win without John morant, who was sidelined by a hand injury. Coach had mentioned it in a couple of meetings we had about the urgency that we need to play with. So I just felt like I need to turn that up and turn on my energy level and just be more assertive and more aggressive. Jared Jackson finished with 18 points. Desmond bane had 17 and tyus Jones added ten with 8 assists as marantz replacement. LeBron James had 28 points and 12 rebounds, but Anthony Davis scored just 13 on four of 14 shooting. I'm Dave ferry.
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Morant game-time decision for Grizzlies in Game 2 vs. Lakers
"Memphis Grizzlies star John morant will be a game time decision when his team faces LeBron James Los Angeles Lakers in game two of their Western Conference first round series Wednesday. Grizzlies coach Taylor Jenkins said Tuesday that the two time all star point guard suffered no ligament damage to his right hand in an injury that occurred during Memphis's one 28 one 12 loss to the Lakers on Sunday. Morant scored 18 points in 30 minutes before exiting the game. He had an MRI on Monday that showed only bruising of the tissue between the bones as the fourth year guard aggravated an injury from April 7th. I'm guessing kuba.
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The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"grizzlies" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
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You sent me a tweet about which teams had the most national TV games that included their NBA TV games. Are you are you satisfied with who the league is kind of featuring the season national TV wise? Is there another team you'd like to see more often? AKA like when can we start complaining about the number of national TV games the Knicks have? Yeah, not surprising, right? I mean, they're the next, they're in a major market similarly, I believe the warriors have half of their games on national event. I believe it's 42, but I believe that figure includes NBA TV. Right. Some people, yeah. What disrespect that you're tacitly throwing at NBA TV by hinting that it's not really a national network. It's fake national TV. I'm sorry, and BTV is fake national TV. And the NBA is price gouging me by making me add the NBA TV package to NBA league pass. That's absurd. Yeah, I mean, look, the major markets, the big teams, the Lakers of the world, the warriors, the Knicks. They're always going to get a ton of national TV games. Similarly, the big stars, right? I mean, you're going to see a lot of Giannis, a fair amount of embiid, you're going to get the Celtics because the Celtics twas ever thus, right? I mean, this is the way that the NBA and every sports league operates really because look, it goes back to what we talked about earlier. I love watching ja. Maybe the casual NBA fan isn't as enamored with the smaller markets. So they're not going to get as much run. So it's not surprising, I guess. I think to your earlier point, though, about the schedule release and all this stuff, like the NBA trying to make this a thing. This is part and parcel of it, right? How many national TV games go out there, the Christmas Day wars, which I want to discuss with you because the NFL is making its push to battle the NBA on Christmas Day traditionally Christmas Day had been the NBA's day. Now the NFL is trying to encroach on its territory. But the NBA is trying to do the same thing the NFL does with its schedule release. And it's different because as my friend and former colleague in Philadelphia, Derek Bond, who does a great job covering the sixers with his newsletter, he was like, it's 82 games. You're gonna play most teams on your side of the conference four times, and play the other conference twice. What are we doing here? And I'm with him. What are we doing here? This is just all very silly. It's all very silly. It's all very stupid. It everyone who cared about the schedule, the day it comes out immediately forgot it the next day. Like you're just like, what does it even matter? You look at your team's schedule and you're like, oh, we got that tough road trip in December, and then you don't think about it again until that road trip actually happens. I will just say going back to the Knicks real quick, whatever they get, they get their customer, I think it's like 13 national TV games. My bigger issue is putting them on Christmas every year. Which we can get into the Christmas discussion now, but I understand that there are big market, but they do have the grizzlies on the Sierra and I believe they have the nuggets. And obviously, I already forgot the Christmas schedule because it doesn't matter until Christmas Eve, which teams are actually playing on Christmas. But why do we keep doing this with the Knicks? It's so absurd. It's so absurd. And then last year, last year they put them on. And they're like playing on a weird court. They're like wearing weird uniforms. It looks like a Halloween. And I'm like, that is what really bothers me because I'd rather save that spot for a team that we think is actually going to make the playoffs are actually going to be good, et cetera. And then the Knicks fans 'cause it's like, oh, Nick's for clicks, and it's like, the Knicks are being shoved down my throat. You know what I'm saying? This is like a personal affront to you. Look, I will say, as you well know, you'll always curry favor with me with Nixon Celtic slander. So I get that that's not a problem. I do say, though, from a marketing perspective, sixers at nix to kick off or tip off Christmas Day coverage is a compelling interesting rivalry traditionally. It's got two big markets. You do get embiid and harden. I get why they're doing it, but I wanted to the reason why I sent this to you is because I love Christmas Day NBA. I always have. In the NFL, the NFL is king in America and now all of a sudden they're throwing out Christmas Day games as well. And they have been, but they've got three games this year. And it's going to create warfare in my household. My wife works for NFL network. But the reason why I brought this up is I want to know what you'll be watching. This is obviously an NBA pod. You and I will probably be watching the NBA. But the NFL is lingering out there and when this happened when the NFL released its Christmas Day schedule relative to the NBA's Christmas Day schedule, I didn't think it was that big a deal until I was talking to all the staffers on Sports Illustrated weekly. And they think like the NFL schedule will blow away the NBA games and I was kind of surprised by that because I didn't think that their slate of games was all that compelling compared to the NBA's slate. So can we run through this? Yeah, well, first of all, Sports Illustrated pays me to watch the NBA, so I'll probably be watching that, even though I believe the packers and the dolphins of Miami are playing on Christmas Day so I'll probably be keeping an eye on that game depending on how much it overlaps with the Knicks game, which I try to skip every year now. Packers, you get packers dolphins up against sixers necks. Which you don't want to watch the Knicks anyway. And the dolphins are your team. You get to do that. And sixers heat was right there. I mean, sixers heat was right there. They just played a compelling playoff series. We have the Jimmy Butler, Joel embiid. It was right there. It was right there. And they didn't do it. I am already annoyed at the discourse about the Christmas Day games because I think the NFL is going to do monster ratings, like they always do, they're like the monster from nope. They just suck everything up. They just, you know, they take out the power and they just start, you know, sucking everything up through their giant mouth hole. That's what the NFL does. And I already know all the NFL reporters every single one. They all have the same haircut. You know the guy that I'm talking about. All 6 of them are just gonna be like tweeting out the ratings. As soon as they can, comparing it to the NBA ones and it's like, here we go with this, you know, the latest round of how much more popular the NFL is in the NBA and I just can not bring myself to care about it. But what I do care about is how embarrassing it is when the reporters of their own league feel the need to hype up the product
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"grizzlies" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"He left him in Minnesota, but I think any package has to start with two of Dylan Brooks, Desmond bane and jaren Jackson. I think you have to part ways with two of those guys. I think you tell the nets pick one of Jaron Jackson junior or Desmond baine and you get Dylan Brooks and whatever else we need to make the salaries match. And I think if you're the grizzlies, I think you do that trade. I really do, as great as jaren Jackson junior is, as much as I'm a fan of Desmond bane, shout out to Michael bean as profile about him. I think you make that trade if you're Memphis. I really do. Yeah, and I want to be clear. I mean, I really like triple J and I really like Desmond Bain. I like them both. I do not like them as much as Kevin Durant. We talked about this the last time before you went on your August sabbatical, like the rest of the NBA, where if you can get Kevin Durant for, I don't know, anything, right? No matter what that anything is, it's always going to be expensive. The answer is almost always in an every instance, yes, because he's Kevin Durant, so I understand why the grizzlies. They've got a young team. They were on the rise last year. They might not want to mess with the trajectory of their team. I understand that unplugging some of these younger guys might seem scary to them. But of course, triple J and Desmond bay and have to be on the table. And if you had to unload both of them for Kevin Durant, I would still do that because it's Kevin Durant. So I don't think, I don't think it's much of a thought experiment. I thought the tweet was sort of silly. I'm sure that that's the position that the grizzlies are taking with the nuts and whatever negotiations that they've undertaken so far. But to say that those two guys are off the table. Okay, then what are you sending, right? Get out of here. The other thing, though, I want to reverse engineer this. I think theoretically and on paper, it would be a wonderful landing spot for Kevin Durant, right? I really like the shape of the grizzlies. Obviously, ja took a massive step. Immediately makes them contenders in the west. If you're Kevin
The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"grizzlies" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"All right, here we are. Postgame show, the final regular season postgame show. She's a postgame show, or is it? There's no other regular season, Jimmy. Or the first postseason. It's a little bit of the glass half full half empty debate here, which one is it? Relax homeschool, relax. Hey. I'm just glad to be here. Well, let's set the table and then I'll just kind of preview how the entire show is going to go. Some of us are going to say this was really bad playing Brooklyn and then some people will say it's not. And and then the chat will say you guys are cowards and losers and you don't believe in the Celtics and it is and we're going to do this for an hour. Or so. And it is what it is. But, you know, there's still a lot to talk about. And here we go, as everything, somebody's time for the fear show. Again, this all comes. You think you had Sunday scary is now folks? Very scary. The entire thing is whether or not you are afraid of Brooklyn and the likelihood that you end up playing them or not. And some people are, some people are not and those people are insane. But that's what the whole thing goes down to and then why did they do this? The point, did they want to? Did they care? Did they position themselves for two? Did they intend? Did they not want to be for any reasons? These are all things we're going to talk about, but what we know is a Celtics have finished as the second seed. After their win over their grizzlies, they will now play the two 7 winner, which is either Brooklyn or Cleveland, Brooklyn has a home court for that game. It's going to be played on Tuesday and we're going to do a show right after that. To preview the first round opponent, I'm just bringing this on you guys now, but anyone wants to join me. Tuesday night, anyone wants to join me. We are jumping on. We're going to talk about who the Celtics opponent is once we know for sure. But you've planned. Who knows, right? Listen, listen. Sira said that last month..
Lakers Nation Podcast
"grizzlies" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"You have to do in the NBA, because teams can't take away everything. They're going to give you something. The grizzlies is really focused on trying to shut down the paint and they gave the Lakers looks from outside. Now they did a good job contesting those looks, by the way, their clothes outs were pretty on point. But still, the Lakers also missed those shots. They did not punish the grizzlies for their choices. So that's my master lock as well. It's the Lakers not hitting the shots that they got because that changes the whole game. That changes their demeanor. And part of me wants to master lock their effort, seeing the grizzlies out compete the Lakers out hustle, the Lakers, that certainly bothers me too, but there is part of that that's just human nature. When you're coming down and you're swinging the ball and you get an open look and you miss and then the other team comes down and they get in transition because they got off a rebound off of a missed shot and they score on you and then you come back down in the same thing and the same thing and the same thing and you go through 5 6 7 possessions of that and you're getting your butt kicked, it's hard to continue selling out and making the extra effort. That is just kind of human nature that's part of it, but again I think ultimately it all rolls up under not punishing the grizzlies for their choices by knocking down shots. And sometimes shooting, it's not a sticky stat. It's just not. There's ebbs and flows with it. It happens. Hopefully next game the Lakers will shoot better. But in this one, like we'd be talking about this game quite a bit differently if monk and Bradley shot the way they shot in previous games. If they shot even just average, this game was this whole game. Looks very, very different. So I think that the missed shots really added up and the Lakers weren't able to punish the grizzlies for their choices in this one. Yeah, it's a ripple effect. If you make more shots, there's less transition opportunities, less defensive rebounds, taking the ball out of the net, forcing the grizzlies to play more half court game. Helps out your defense. You probably get more stops and you stop them from scoring so many points. It's all a very intertwined. It's all very nuanced game. No. I just figured it out. And it's one of our super chats. We are master locking the wrong thing. This comes from Zach Mustafa in a super chat, said I was there tonight. I was there when Phoenix kicked us out of the playoffs. I was there in person for another Phoenix blowout. Sorry guys. This one is on me. Come on. Zach Mustafa, you should by now you should have known better. Come on, Zach. He's got to get the master lock. That's what happens. That's why they missed all the shots. Zach, you got to take one for the team..
Lakers Nation Podcast
"grizzlies" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"It's a Boston Celtic, I don't care if it's a clipper. No. You don't wish injury on anybody on any of these players. That's just these are real people guys. Yeah, that's just to me that's just a line that you don't cross. And then but then from there, as far as as the other piece which Schroeder has been the better option, when you add in contracts, sure, like 6 million for shorter versus 44 for Russ. Okay. But I also understand why the Lakers did what they did in making the move. It just hasn't quite worked out the way they hoped it would. I don't know if I want to say this out loud, but I think that's probably true. Okay. Well, well, look at it. Okay, I get it, and this feels so gross saying it. But defensively, who would you take right now? Schroeder or Russ? I'll be honest, I haven't watched a lot of shooters defense this season. I'm sure Celtics fans would tell me a little bit more. But you've seen a lot of Russ. I've seen a lot of Ross. I mean, based on what we saw from shooter last season, at least he's more of kind of a high effort guy on the defensive end, even if the efficiency isn't always there. So defensively, I think you probably give the nod to Schurter. He's a little bit more willing to sell out. Although, you know what? Russ is a force on the defensive glass. Russ helps you out quite a bit there, especially when the Lakers are playing small. Yeah. Right. I mean, the fact that you're debating it says something. But I don't think it's like an easy, definitely Dennis Schroeder. Spot. No, I think the contract part is really, because if you're told me I can get shooter for 6 mil, then I consider this a lot more. But if you told me that we were supposed to reassign them for the number he was asking for, absolutely not. Right. Yeah..
Lakers Nation Podcast
"grizzlies" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"How down you are on Anthony Davis. He is definitely a top ten talent in my eyes for sure. You're not going to move me off of that position at all. Has he been a top ten player when he's been healthy? No, not necessarily, but I know what Anthony Davis can look like when he's at his best. And that player does not grow on trees. So I am going to keep him. And I think I've made this point before, but given that he is a superstar level player, his contract is very team friendly going forward. There's literally no reason to trade him right now. And if you do trade him now, his point, his value is probably at its lowest. So if you're really intent on trading Anthony Davis, and I am not by any stretch. But if it came out that said the Lakers are looking to trade Anthony Davis, that is not going to come for the next couple of years when he's healthy and he's played well on the floor. And then they can get some legitimate pieces for him. A haul, something like, I don't know, Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, Josh hart. Right. That's the kind of haul I'd want from Anthony Davis if I'm being honest. But that's not happening anytime soon. So I am not moving off AD at all. It's a nonstarter for me. I hang up the phone so fast. And I probably block your number. Somebody somebody's been on your Instagram. They said Matt plays better than AD. Hey. That's not true, but I appreciate the comment. And then I hit open three, so I actually better than rusty. Oh, ouch. Senpai NFT said THT and none for roko Robert Covington and Snell. Russ for literally anyone. I firmly believe we're just flat out better with any 3D guard on the floor instead. Robert Covington hasn't had. If he's at his best, okay, but he hasn't had. That's just another name, though, yeah. He hasn't been great. Yeah. I don't know. Like I'm fairly optimistic based on what we've seen the last few games from THT. There's a little bit more confidence in him. Yeah. I'm not saying that if the right offer comes along, you just refuse to trade him again. But I think that what we've seen in the last and this could go away quickly, but the last three games we have seen the THT that we kind of expected to see this season after a month of seeing this shell of the guy that we thought that he was going to be. And we saw him for three games right after he came back from injury. He was great. And then he disappeared for like a month now. We've got three games of relatively good THT. I'm hoping this can continue, but we'll see where this goes from here. The Lakers play the kings on Wednesday if THT has a bad game. I'm going to go ahead and imagine that everyone is going to say, you know what THT is bad, trade all this goodwill is going to disappear just like that. Yes. Oh yeah, it's like we said before coming on. We're talking about fans who are going to be upset from this game..
Lakers Nation Podcast
"grizzlies" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"You're hoping that he could return some of that value and continue to find a way to start knocking out threes again with being likely the third or fourth option on any given night. So yeah, I think you have to make that move. That tends to be what happens with players, right? When we see a player come into a team where they are, they go from being the first option on say a bad team, and they go to become the say third or fourth option or whatever it is on the team that at least has championship aspirations. I don't hesitate to call the Lakers a good team because we haven't seen that this season. But if you have a guy like Jeremy grant, who goes from being the first option to being the third option, maybe the fourth option, depending on what the lineup is, right? What usually see happen is you see the usage go down, the volume go down, so the number of tips go down, but the percentage will go up because the quality of looks is going to increase. They're going to be more selective with their shots, whereas on the team where they're the number one option, they're being asked to take a lot of bailout shots. Hey, shot clock's winding down. Well, you're our guy. So here's the ball. Go shoot it. Those are percentage killers. So you don't get as many of those. And so you see the efficiency come up. I think that's what we would see out of Jeremy grant. If the Lakers traded for him and you're expecting him to be a 20 point per game scorer, you'd probably be disappointed. But 15 ish points with good defense and helping you out on the glass and doing all those things the Lakers need. I think he could very easily give you that. Yeah, and again, going back to that year in OKC, the average 5 rebounds a game. And that's us a fourth option. I'm taking that along with again, the good three point shooting in solid to good perimeter defense. And then, oh boy, I mean, you could put him in a lineup with a him and liable LeBron and AD because I'm so sweet. That AD, the Lakers played as to play 80 at the 5. And I mean, that's what they want to do. And now I've said in other breakdowns, it baby gets dragged out to the perimeter. Now you have guys like whether if you do get Jeremy grant LeBron and other guys that they have that can rebound and not give up several offensive rebounds on one possession. Yes. Yes. I've got to come here Westbrook has been doing this this whole career. You haven't been paying attention, it's different when you're watching it every single night..
Lakers Nation Podcast
"grizzlies" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"If he's shooting his regular jump shot I mean, how often does LeBron kick his leg out unless as a fadeaway jumper? So yeah, I personally thought that that was about a national study. And that was an important one. An important one down the stretch. All right, obviously the 360 award. The 360 award, it's got to go to LeBron. This was, again, this was a phenomenal game from LeBron James. 37 points, 13 boards, 7 assists, unbelievable two steals, two blocks, 8 of 14 from three. It just makes you shake your head because this was a game that LeBron felt like LeBron brought the win and the other guys just could not do enough to secure it. So frustrating certainly for that one, but LeBron was absolutely fantastic tonight. Yeah, and I mean, they just need one came on late, but think he told me around third quarter is going to be a game where can the other guy step up and the Lakers just didn't have that second guy that could take some of the scoring pressure off of LeBron outside of link monk who I mean the second half really came a lot of for him, but seeks straight game of 30 points. This is his 8th game in the month of December with 30 plus points. I mean, not if I'm sorry. It's just ridiculous. He has been absolutely phenomenal, incredible stuff. And so hopefully, hopefully, the Lakers can get some guys back and have some pieces to put around him and get some wins. That's the other thing. Big picture. When we look at this, this is another loss that frankly shouldn't have happened. They were up by 13 with two 25 to play in the third quarter. That run and by the end of the third quarter, they were only up 5. That is essentially where the game was lost. Was that stretch right there lost them the game and that gave the grizzlies all the momentum heading into the fourth quarter and they took and just ran with it from there. But this is another game. And there's been a bunch of them that the Lakers probably shouldn't have lost. And I'm not saying the grizzlies are a team the Lakers just should beat. The linkers have lost some of those games, lost to OKC. It seems like that. The grizzlies are a good team. But this was a game that they should have won based on the way the game was going. And then they shot themselves in the foot again. They tripped on the one yard line and could not manage to get the job done, especially again, at the end of the third quarter. And what that means big picture is that your margin for error is all but gone at this point. If you're the Lakers, your margin for error is gone, you're going to have a tough second half of the schedule. You've got a much more difficult schedule. As we head into 2022, and if they continue to do this, choke away games, find ways to lose the games that they really should win, that's going to be a big, big problem..
Lakers Nation Podcast
"grizzlies" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"Not a pleasant night, falling to the grizzlies lost by 5 and at one point the Lakers were up 13. This was a meltdown, picking the fourth quarter also at the end of the third quarter. Things got sloppy at the end of the game and the Lakers unfortunately found a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, joining me to help break it down is Sean Davis. Sean, how are you doing, man? Not good after that loss. Up 13 late and they go to mellow at the 5 to try to go into the fourth quarter. So not good after seeing that. Yeah, carmela Anthony will have plenty to say about him tonight. He did not have it. And look, part of this, I think on the season come right away Anthony has been overall good. I mean, he's shooting 40% from three. He's arguably the team's best shooter. He's brought some positive things. And we knew defensively there were going to be some concerns, but tonight it felt like his legs just weren't there. He just didn't have it and maybe on the second night of a back to back, that's to be expected. Back to back on the road no less, but still two for 11 from the field, two turnovers, one for 8 from three for mello. He did not. He would he looked sloppy, follow it all over himself on a number of different plays. Couldn't get a hold of the basketball a couple of times. It was bad from Carmelo Anthony and the minutes with him at the center position simply did not work and that left a lot of Lakers fans wonder why didn't the Lakers just go back to Dwight Howard who was at least fairly productive and therefore you who's a plus 17. Team high plus 17 on the night and you had the only played 16 minutes and we didn't see him in the fourth quarter at all. So that was certainly a bit of frustration, but LeBron James. 37 points, 13 board 7 to 6 two steals two blocks, 8 of 14 from three. Incredible performance from him. And that almost makes it feel a little bit worse. Because the Lakers kind of that kind of they wasted a great performance from LeBron James. They've wasted a lot of them recently. LeBron scored 30 points in each of the last 6 games and only somehow one one of those 6 games, like get it, you dealt with a lot of players being on the safety protocols list, but lose by 28 to the spurs, if you lose by 18 to the sign to blow elite, I believe to the bulls, just you've wasted a lot of really good LeBron performances as of late. Somebody mentioned in a super chat THT is useless, and Taylor Horton Tucker, another poor performance from him. He four points, two of 7 shooting 5 boards to assist. That was another questionable decision. Why was Taylor and Tucker in the game? And I look there roster is thin right now. They don't have many guys to turn.
Lakers Nation Podcast
"grizzlies" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"Why is LeBron hitting or shooting 73s? Because he's been hitting them. Because he's been hitting them. I mean, tonight, for 9, and he's been knocking those in. So he's been shooting them. And if you look at LeBron, he's a very cerebral player, right? So you look at the last three games so far in the regular season. He's shooting 50% from three on the season right now. Four four 9 tonight, 5 four 9 last game. First game of the season 5 for 11. So LeBron James is a very cerebral player. You look at the starting 5, they've been putting out there and we'll talk about that in a bit. But Deandre Jordan, Anthony Davis, Kent bazemore Russell Westbrook, LeBron James, who's the best shooter out of that group. LeBron. So if he's not shooting those threes, who is, and if he's not shooting those threes, what defense is going to bother defending on the perimeter? Now the grizzlies still packed the paint because that's what you do against the Lakers. You pack the paint and you make them beat you from outside. But I think LeBron is recognizing that, hey, I've got to take these shots because defenses aren't going to be worried about getting out to AD right now until he shows that he can consistently knock those down. They're not going to be worried getting out to say Kent bazemore as much unless it's a corner three. Maybe they will or if he continues to shoot like we saw in some of these games where he shoots a decent percentage. There's certainly not getting out to Russell Westbrook. I think LeBron recognizes that in the starting unit and most of the time on the floor, he's one of if not the best shooter. So he's got to take those shots. And I think that's a factor here and why we're seeing him take more of them. And again, right now, shooting threes at a 50% clip, that's a winning proposition. Keep taking them. As long as you're shooting that well, keep taking them because that's great teams would kill to have somebody shoot that well again. That's not sustainable, but he's shooting that shot very well right now. So I think that you've got a couple of things. He's making them. And I think he also recognizes that the team needs him taking and making.
Big Fellas Basketball
"grizzlies" Discussed on Big Fellas Basketball
"I would definitely go to one game report home. We've got a one knows as well because we were in the gang. Which is kinda even john boyega hidden mistake and utah. You can conceive see. They're still playing right. Now against the clippers just got make those gonna mistakes and utah made us pay brick born or whatever they did mike. Conley played amazing. You know just a learning lesson for us than definitely thanking future. We'll be ready next year when next year. Come hopefully make a good run in the playoffs. Go to play the regular season a you know. Just a matter. Like coach jenkins was saying joggers. Learn how to close games out and you know. I think the feeling like they got at the bubble of being narrow. But you can put out by portland to play him. Play like all year to be in play offs but plan happening. You know you don't get to play offs like that like man we were right there upping bacon you know take take same energy or that same attitude towards like man. We were right there again. Utah planning once even like we had a legit chance. Beat them in game. Two three and four like you know we could want. Ear does games outside of k. Five you know when they just kinda like were hidden every day into not miss a man with a beat. Those guys popular Right now so you know just a little motivation for the off season into like you know. Obviously everybody got job and dylan and jere and yoenis tile like us have a good team. You like grizzly have like a young team. They're going to be on the uprise. So the one of the brightest futures in the league and especially right considering what you said about just having having the youngest team in the playoffs but not even just that is showing resilience that whenever a team is able to show maturity and in the playoffs. Good signed for two three four years to come on when when the teams young. And they're just it's the talented takes over the top. Not that they really just going down by twenty game to claw back. That's something that a lot of young teams wouldn't do. So it's it's great seeing the grizzlies do that and obscene..
Lakers Nation Podcast
"grizzlies" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"Your home for everything Lakers just made tonight, but has always it's never just me really suck me and all of you. I thought I was going to have Gary Sheffield Junior and Chris Masters tonight, but both of them got called away to other things. So it's just me tonight talking Lakers basketball with you. I have a feeling even though the language is just extended their winning streak to four games for game winning streak here. There's going to be a lot of negativity in the chat tonight 94 to 90 to win over the Memphis Grizzlies tonight in a game that took a closer than it should have been and required probably a little too much heavy lifting from LeBron, James and Anthony Davis. We're going to break it all down. We'll talk through the whole game. So if you're coming in from YouTube from Facebook from Periscope job Going to be for listening to the Apple podcast version of this. Don't forget leave us a 5-star review over on Apple podcast and give us your questions and comments over in the review section there. Appreciate everybody joining me tonight. I feel good though. This was this was a bad game in terms of energy and and all of that. It was an ugly game, but wasn't a fun game to watch shooting percentages for both teams. Look was not was not fun 94-92. It's like we went back in time what twenty-five years or something like that? We went back into the nineties here. So this is it was a rough one. That's for sure. It was a rough watch but I feel good. I've got a new mic. I've got a new microphone. I'm I'm excited about that. I've got a new microphone I get to use tonight. So maybe you guys will be able to to hear the difference there, but I'm already seeing the comments coming flying in. About how sloppy the game is. Yes. It absolutely was a sloppy game. It was not pretty it was not a pretty it just going through the stats LeBron James 26 points eleven board 7 assists ridiculous. Ridiculous Fade Away shots. It wasn't just the Discord 26 points. It was the way he scored them following away from the basket to even touch the rim on how many of those shots how many of those shots were the Lakers offense completely broke down and they gave the ball to LeBron and said LeBron save us, please and he did he did he'd be fired up these turnaround jumpers just bottom off. Like if you're the Grizzlies, you've got to be thinking this was our chance. We had them we were right there. No ja Morant no Jaren Jackson Jr. We were right there and then LeBron spoiled the party frankly the Grizzlies out the Lakers in this one and we can talk about how difficult it is to win two games on the road that certainly a thing and something to be to consider in the other team's Arena, but the Lakers game LeBron at 26 Anthony Davis had 26 as well ten boards for says three steals three blocks. Eighty was fine as well solid 10 for 20 shooting for of ten. We got to talk about that 1 to 10 from 3. We'll talk about Anthony Davis's three-point shooting but then you look at the rest of the roster where nobody else go Dennis Schroder had 12 points, but he was five fifteen to get their nine points for Montrezl Harrell. That was it. Nobody else of know really put up any significant stats five points for starter ku's Kyle kuzma only five points 3 for Marc Gasol though. He's not a big-time scorer or anything like that. Matthews four points for for Talen horton-tucker. Just no one else really got going in this game and it could be. Hey, it's the end of a road trip. That's always a factor the getaway game that game right before the end of a road trip when you're about to go home. That's yeah. That's a tough one..
Lakers Nation Podcast
"grizzlies" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"Don't think there's a lake of the deserves it tonight, but I'm sure some people are going to throw in some Lakers names but tell us who deserves the Master Lock of the night. Whoever we pick off is going to get a lakersnation.com license plate frame. So that means you guys got to stick around till that point of the show, by the way, which we usually do about three-quarters of the way through the show Chris. Let's let's not get too far away from the Lakers here. Let's let's just go right to it LeBron James LeBron James thirty-six years old play 32 minutes 9 4 1613 boards eight. It says one stillbirth 22 points almost another triple-double. It's like the game was closed. The game was closed. The game was closed and then LeBron said okay enough for that. I'm done. See you later Grizzlies. I'm going to go ahead and score score score page and see you later. You're done. That was that was incredible to see how under control LeBron was like cool and calm like, you know what I was planning on doing this all along. No problem. I'm just going to hit you with a bunch of fourth quarter points and win this game. It's amazing. It's amazing the way he can just switch for just as long as he needs to and then kind of back off again and preserve himself for the next game. And I think Laker fans have kind of learned that for the most part cuz I saw a lot of people in our chat in the flick shot and they were talking about you know, and it's exactly what happened in like as soon as LeBron turns up the aggressiveness this game is over. So, you know in Lebron, it just seems to me like LeBron and not even just LeBron but a d are actually again or just kind of even in games like this just kind of pacing themselves and and really kind of turning it on when it matters, you know, in terms of being aggressive and you know, I'm fine with that. You know, I mean, this is still going to be a long season and we need to you know, look at the big picture here and you know, it just means you know, sometimes you're going to kind of toast until you it's absolute winning time and you know, these guys have the ability to turn it on off time to win the game, you know, sometimes that doesn't happen to the fourth quarter, but you know, they got it done tonight. How about that shot yet that shot from the from the claw. The grizzly and half-court. He's like in the claw the power or whatever it is. Right and he just steps up and drains it. You know, it's like a 40-foot shot and just boom I mean amazing amazing stuff. And that's the those are just backbreakers. Like if you're the Grizzlies all along the game. The Lakers are just kind of stringing him along stringing him along the Grizzlies Argo know we might really have a chance. We might really have a.