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Greta Thunberg read by Jameela Jamil
"Once upon a time there was a Swedish go who refused to go to school. Her name was Greta. Greta was around ten years old. Her teacher showed the close documentary about the great garbage patch. Greta learned about plastic materials that toppled off in containers. Those plastic fragments were picked up by ocean currents and swell together to form an island of trash the size of Mexico. Some students felt moved others. Attention wavered. Greta could not look away. She thought that copy right. No way there is something serious enough to threaten our very existence when the film was over and the lights clicked on gratis. Classmates will already standing pulling on the jackets and chattering away. Greta stayed seated unaware that it was lunchtime. The cafeteria serving Hamburgers Gretchen could not stomach the thought of eating one. It was a ground up piece of muscle from a living creature with feelings consciousness and a soul. She said when she wasn't thinking of the cow she remembered the island of trash as others. Put Out F- owns and started swiping. Gretchen cried and wanted to go home. In that moment. She couldn't quite understand how everyone went back to life as usual. I'm Jamie Lee Jamal and this is good night stories forever ago. Fairytale podcast about the rebel goals. Who Inspire US this week? Greta Timberg when Gretzky started sixth grade. She cried on her way to school. She cried in Plus Two. Every day teaches cooled. Greta stay at home. Dads funday every day. He rushed to bring her home to the golden retriever. Moses Greta would sit with Moses hours petting him and caressing his coat as much as have parents tried to help. Greta slipped further into a funk until she stopped functioning altogether. She stop playing the piano. She stopped laughing. Stop Talking Gratis. Mother Magliana a well known opera. Singer took a break from performing. When Greta stopped eating at home they hung a white sheet of paper on the wool where they tracked Greta food intake. A half of Nana five nookie never enough. Magliana fantasia tried to coax Greta into eating. Sometimes they screamed and threatened other times. They begged and cried. Offered Young Greta anything. Their imagination came up with but more often than no. They had to sit on their hands until Greta herself decided to eat something. Doctors Diagnosed Greta with Abbas Syndrome. A FORM OF AUTISM. She also had obsessive compulsive disorder anxiety disorder which consumed. Greta with worry thoughts. That overwhelmed sometimes. We could have had the diagnosis of selective mutism as well. A doctor told her parents they were referring to gratis refusal to talk to anyone besides her family. The doctor continued but it often disappears on. Its own with time eventually. The doctor was proven correct. Greta only needed to find a reason to speak people on the autism spectrum. Tend TO HAVE SPECIAL INTEREST GRATIS. Curiosity about global heating consumed her. She read reports filled with jargon and what she didn't understand she researched until she did. Greta learned that everyone has a carbon footprint every time someone consumed energy by lighting the stove putting gas in that call for example they were for releasing carbon gases into the air carbon was important because it kept the planet woman for life but now too many gases were being released so the earth is warming to much and too fast. Gretchen decided that the biggest danger to our future was not inaction. Scientists had ost leaders to do something but people were still not doing enough. The real danger was when politicians? Ceo's were making it look like real action was happening when in fact almost nothing was being done. Greta was ready to make personal sacrifices to protect future but she knew she could not make impactful changes alone. She shed what she learned with her parents and sister she suggested lifestyle changes goading them into giving up meat and eventually going Vegan. You can't really stand up for something without woking the wool. Greta said the family installed solar batteries started growing their own vegetables. Most important victory came in twenty sixteen. She persuaded her mother to stop flying. This was a big deal because Molina's career depended on traveling widely. Molina's decision showed that no one person's goals were more pressing on the planet regardless of how important she was once she successfully changed minds at home. Greta focused her attention on the wider world in America. A group of students who survived a school shooting organized a national walkout protest the use of assault weapons the ACTA civil disobedience inspired the biggest use led protests yet. It was cold march for our lives. Greta was inspired by their revolt. She was frustrated by the politicians. Who Misquoted. Climate crisis data outright lied or in the worst cases patted themselves on the back at fifteen. Greta could not vote in the upcoming election. Walking out of school was one of the few way she knew she could capture attention. Greta told her parents that she wanted to skip school to like. The students vibe is in America. Retina wanted to protest the government's response to the climate crisis. Parents discouraged her I. Greta pushed back. Why should I be at school studying for a future? That soon may be no more. She asked the couldn't argue with that. Retinas parents saw. That had new sense of purpose. Have feel good and she looked healthier than ever with that. A Dad's Fontaine took Greta to the hardware store to buy supplies to make a protest sign on Monday August twentieth. Two thousand eighteen. Greta got up an hour earlier than usual and packed her. Rucksack with books and snacks. She wrote a bicycle to parliament with Fontaine trailing behind a sign that read school strike for climate was tapped on his own. Greta took place against a wall around the corner from the Prime Minister's office and there she sat. Even though Greta didn't put up a fuss she was hard to overlook and have bright yellow rain jacket. Greta asked a passer by to take a photograph which he shed online. A few people ask questions and offered their support. Your generation will save the world. You are the ones who will clean up after us. Some said it wouldn't hurt if you helped to. Greta wanted to say Toronto called Greta on her phone. The media had heard of Greta Strike and they were on their way. Greta wasn't expecting this but she was surprised and happy a year ago. She wasn't speaking to anyone beyond her family now. She managed to give several interviews. The crime crisis has never been treated a crisis. And so. I think that should via start Greta who had a photographic memory repeated what scientists had already said again and again the reporters wrote it down as if they were hearing it for the first time over and over she told them unless radical and immediate action is taken to curb carbon emissions. The planet will warm to catastrophic temp riches. What we do during the next decade will determine the climate vanilla two billion children alive today. Savante came by to check on Greta and found has surrounded journalists. Aus- Fonte if they had permission to film and interview and he noticed that Greta was tense. Svante polls graduate aside and she started to cry. Let's go home now. Her father said Okay Greta her head. You don't need to do any of this. Let's forget about this and get out of here Greta Paste. She inhaled she ex house even though she was still upset. She focused straight ahead. No she said I'm doing this. Greta stay that every day during school hours for three weeks. Greta Strike Odran coverage from Sweden's biggest newspapers as reporters flocked to her. She handed out flyers bearing the message. You grownups don't give a crap about my future off. Two three weeks of missing classes critics still was not satisfied. The emissions continue to increase whether she striped not the day before parliamentary elections. Greta spoke in front of two thousand people. At the People's climate march install comes when she took to the stage. She asked everyone to take out that phones and share her remarks. We will go on with the school strike every Friday as from now. We will sit outside the Swedish parliament until Sweden is in line with the Paris Agreement Retro announced he's the crowd cried out vessel Anne a matter of months. The number of protesters grew from hundreds to thousands. Wretched refused to recognize the movement as one she started. She was one of many many activists who were pushing for climate action in January twenty nineteen. Greta was invited to speak to business leaders and politicians at the World Economic Forum Davos. She warned them. I don't want you to be hopeful. I want you to panic. I want you to feel the fair. I feel every day and then I want you to act. I want you to act as you would in a crisis. I wanted to act as the house was on fire because it is by summer of two thousand nineteen. Greta was both celebrated and condemned more than two million people across. A hundred and thirty five countries joined the movement. People wondered if she'd win the Nobel Prize Time. Put her on the cover of the magazine. Some lawmakers refused to listen when Greta spoke publicly instead. They poked fun nearly a year. After Greta. I sat outside Parliament. A new journey awaited. How on the opposite side of the Atlantic Greta and Sunday Board Zero Carbon Yacht to sail from Britain to New York City where she was invited to take part in the United Nations. Climate Action. Summit the morning At a Manhattan Marina. She woke up and suddenly smelled something indescribable the salty ad that she'd become accustomed to have been replaced with the odor of pollution. When she sailed beneath the gaze of Lady Liberty Seventeen. Sailboats heralded her arrival. The ground seemed to shake beneath our feet when Greta stepped off the yacht. She searched for her balance. As I see leg stabilized in the distance she hud supporters chanting. Welcome Greta the two weeks old. Greta had heard were own thoughts. And the laps of the ocean waves. She was stunned by starry. Skies AND SPONTANEOUS ENCOUNTERS WILDLIFE. Nuke City can be overwhelming for any outsider but for Greta who felt everything very deeply it was so big in so loud. It's so overwhelming. I've gone from nothing but me and the ocean to this Greta told a reporter but half air for the planet outweighed discomfort. Greta continued on in America. People discussed climate change as something that one did not believe in in Sweden where Greta came from. The climate crisis was a fact when she was asked whether she'd speak with President. Donald trump on her trip. Greta feared it would be a waste of time because he did not believe in climate change. He was what people cool a climate denier. As president of the United States. He had the opportunity to speak with many experts if they couldn't convince him global heating. Greta figured it was a lost cause. I'm not that special. I can't convince everyone she said senators complimented Greta and other young activists for the work they done. Please save us your praise. We don't want it. She scolded them. Reta was frustrated hearing the same compliment day after day. She wanted someone to do something on September twentieth. Twenty Nine Thousand Nine Hundred Greta marched alongside four million people worldwide three days later at the UN climate action summit. She was asked what message she had for world leaders. Greta said this is all wrong. I shouldn't be up here. I should be back in school on the other side of the ocean yet. You all come to US young people for hope. How dare you? You are failing us but the young people are starting to understand your betrayal. The eyes of all future generations are upon you. And if you choose to fail us I say we will never forgive you right here. Right now is where we draw the line. The world is waking up and change is coming with the you like it or not think you often Greta speech more and more people around the globe took notice. An American media outlet called her mentally ill which Greta sore is a signal that she was winning. She knew that people pointed out looks and differences when they had no other challenges available. Greta nuance difference was a superpower. I see the world kind of black and white. She said everyone says that there is no black and white issue. But I think this is either. We go on a civilization or we don't today. Greta still stands outside protesting every Friday. But now she's not alone supporters. Drop by join her on their lunch breaks they sometimes bring. Food Greta who generally the same thing everyday surprises ourself by finding new things. She enjoys like noodles. Fil while our planet's future is still uncertain. Greta has many opportunities ahead. She launched a foundation to promote sustainability as well as mental health inspired by the environmental documentaries that she sore in the classroom. Greta agreed to participate in a documentary. Series that will follow her to some of the most extraordinary places on Earth a she explores what actions could be taken to limit climate change but perhaps the most exciting news is that Greta has inspired what journalists according the greater effect a wave of youth have taken to action offline and online to raise awareness about the causes they care about most and world leaders racing to keep up with demands because as. Greta pointed out. Change is coming whether you like it or not a hello. 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Is Greta Thunberg the Real Deal?
"Cultural economic political. Maybe a dash of social issues these are discussions discussions. That we've been having since time immemorial but it's easy to view these issues is buying it. It's easy to view them as either black or white. When in fact there era a whole lot agree on the issue of solving the global climate crisis? Is Greta Thune Berg the real deal or is she merely media media hype. Thank you for tuning in. I'm going to try and answer that for you on this episode of a whole lot of gray with a neon Rome Scientists politicians journalists and academia around the world have declared that V biggest issue facing our generation is the climate crisis and Greta food. Berg is the name on everyone's minds when we're talking about this crisis so Who is Greta Greta? Thune Berg is a sixteen year old climate activists from Sweden who was recently thrust into the geopolitical spotlight for her speech at the U ahead where she shamed world leaders for their inaction to solve the ongoing climate crisis where she urged everybody to make their top priority now although she missed out on the two thousand nine hundred ninety Nobel Peace Prize. Greta Thornburgh was awarded the highly coveted International Children's peace surprise which she received recently on November the twentieth of The Hague in the Netherlands. I'm just going to read out for your benefit. The awards mission statement as per their website. So this award is awarded to children between the ages of twelve and eighteen. WHO HAVE SHOWN A and I quote remarkable commitment to combating the problems? uh-huh that millions of children face worldwide. And when we look at the Archives of the prize and I'm paraphrasing over here past winners include those who have made a significant -nificant contribution to advocating children's rights and improving the situation of vulnerable children such as orphans child laborers and children with Terminal Diseases around the globe. So in this episode. We're going to die sack. Two key questions. The first should grotto have won the International Children's Prince Peace Prize and the second. What exactly is her plan? Going forward for climate change jumping right into it. Let's answer the first question. Should Greta have won the prize. So the award is bestowed upon winners chosen by the Expert Committee of the Dutch Organization. The Kids Rights Foundation and it's been awarded since two two thousand and five keeping in mind the organization's mission statement which we read out earlier and to evaluate whether Greta was worthy of winning the award I I will be taking a look at the first living recipient of the award the nominee who lost out this year and the most recent one while contracting their accomplishments Schmidt's with one another so the first of these is who is just a fourteen year old child labor from Rajastan state in northwestern India when he won the award at the tender age of five he was abducted from his parents and forced to work as a laborer for three years on the fields of villages is Andrew Rajastan getting kidnapped from your family force manual labor toiling on the fields. This is a reality that many of us are privileged to who have never lived our entire lives and let alone at such a young age soon after thankfully he was rescued by activists from the organization. Bun Bun Bunch. I'll on Dolan which for those of you. Wondering an English would roughly translate to save the childhood movement now ever since his rescue he's been dedicated to fighting for children's empowerment all over rural India. He's even used this platform to start a network of child friendly villages which are effectively villages that prohibit child labour. He then started an NGO called Buni. Mop Are Challah which even today in twenty nineteen does does a lot of great advocacy to prevent the exploitation of children in rural India by protecting these children from a variety of exploitative methods such as trafficking slavery and forced marriage among other barbaric practices. These are the situations that children often find find themselves in throughout parts of the developing world. And through this NGO OAM has used his platform do continue and I'm quoting from the mission. Statement and again advocating for and improving the situations of vulnerable children around the globe. Now let's take the case of if the Emma the nominee for this year's award who lost out to Greta Thune Berg again straight from the kids rights website if the car has developed his own piece of hardware hardware Abril board that is condensed more than ten thousand books to how blind and visually impaired children read and learn now devising hardware like that. That is already an impressive feat. It makes it more so when you learn that Ithaca is just a seventeen year old boy from Bangladesh about twenty blind aligned and visually impaired students are currently avid users of this hardware and if they are is actively working with the Bangladeshi government to ensure that all blind children are given this device for free but despite all of this. We're not really hearing. Bow People like home or like if the are we and compared to both of them Greta. Thune Berg is shot at international stardom and Celebrity Hood wild these two individuals hailing from rural South Asia that have actively he worked to reform the lives of impoverished and differently. abled children in the region are not receiving nearly the same attention. So what do we know about bowed Greta and the work that she's done before I get into it. I want to preface a couple of things over here. I believe that it is absolutely commendable that sixteen year year old is able to so impassioned plea speak to world leaders at the UN on a pressing issue that divides the aisle for a multitude of reasons around the world world further. None of us really deny that serious efforts ought to be made to preserve our beautiful planet as per the World Wildlife Federation not doing so would have a host of implications rising sea levels forest fires and environmental degradation that would isolate endangered species like tigers ultimately ultimately rendering them extinct on more humanitarian note. Roughly half a billion people around the world in places ranging from Miami eight to Sydney would lose their daily source of protein. This is estimated by the California Academy of Sciences to be a result of the destruction of coral reefs which serve as a vital I tow component of the oceanic ecosystem and all of this can happen with the global temperature rising by just one point five degrees Celsius. Is this the big change. Well for the coral reefs it certainly is and why does it matter to us. If the corals destroyed you might be wondering for those of you who are are wondering how exactly coral reefs impact our food chain and income directly coral reefs host species known zoo plankton. which are the main diet for a majority majority of fish around the world fishermen and coastal inhabitants near the sea would lose their food and income if a majority of the fish population were to die out which which is a risk? We run if zoo plankton population were to die out which is a risk we run if the coral reef population were to die out. So that's how the coral reefs directly directly impact us and directly impact our food chain and all of this is not even taking into account the two hundred thousand on lives that are lost lost annually to heat exposure flooding and other natural phenomena that result from climate change. That's roughly twenty percent of the population of Washington. DC dying every single year because of these occurrences imagine. I told you that the entire population equivalent to the capital city of the United States would die out in in less than a decade if these phenomena were to go on chat so it's clear that the consequences of climate change would be devastating to both our species as well as the rest of the planet. It's important to note therefore that the question I'm asking you on this episode isn't is climate change dangerous or bad but rather how have Greta Thune Burg's contributions to climate activism justified her winning the award. So let's take a look at a time line of what Greta Bloomberg has done up to this point in time for our convenience. Reuters has published an extensive time line mid-september earlier this year of which we'll be taking taking a look at some key events August twentieth two thousand Eighteen Greta Thune Berg than a fifteen year old Swedish student skip school to protest protest outside the Swedish parliament for more action against climate change. Let's fast forward a couple of months to November two thousand eighteen and now more within seventeen thousand students in twenty four countries take part in Friday. School strikes now begins to speak at high profile events across Europe Europe including UN climate talks in Poland. Let's go to the next calendar year in March two thousand in one thousand nine hundred Greta. Thune Berg is now nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize and the number number of students taking part in school strikes hits more than two million people across a hundred and thirty five countries fast forward another couple of months to May two thousand nineteen nineteen and Greta Thune. Berg is now named one of the world's most influential people by Time magazine appearing on its cover. She then tweeted now. I'm speaking to the whole whole world and finally on September Eighteenth Two Thousand Nine Hundred Ninety Greta Thune Berg is one of four students invited to a US Congressional hearing to provide the next generations views on climate change later. She joins an existing law sued from two thousand and fifty against the United States government for their failure to live live up to their previously. Sad carbon emission reduction standards. We're going to dissect this lawsuit and talk about how it's not quite tangible as it seems a bit it later on in this episode so by and large with the exception of the above lawsuit. Her timeline is almost entirely constituted of either organizing nizing or partaking in climate strikes now climate strikes certainly have some positive attributes. They spread awareness and Information Asian on the issue while building solidarity among the populace and activist but what tangible outcomes in the battle against climate. Change do the yield and this is a question being asked by prominent professors and academics. As well Dr Knives Door Lock and Dr Azeem Precaut- both professors professor at the University of Washington wrote a piece and Forbes magazine about how climate strikes have no real weightage until and unless they have some leverage attached to them they give an example of why airline strikes for instance are so successful led me break this example down for you. If airline workers go on strike passengers jurors are then unable to fly and ultimately the airlines would lose revenue so we can see in this example that the strikers have leverage and the airline therefore has an an economically vested interest to react but in the case of seventeen thousand school students. These tenth graders walking out of school on a Friday to protest. Yes Climate Change What we leveraged they wheeled over the biggest stakeholders in the climate change debate do fossil fuel firms and governments have of any real incentive to pass ECO friendly policies and reforms as a result of these schools strikes even regarding the earlier lawsuit we spoke to you about I for one wonder whether it can be deemed as anything more than symbolism for your context. The lawsuit was titled Juliana Versus The United States. It's an appeal was filed on behalf of the US government last year which temporarily put a halt on this case. So this case currently isn't even being being heard by the Supreme Court but rather by a lower circuit court instead secondly according to the climate and Life Center at Columbia University just a couple of things the first super unlikely that the plaintiffs went second even in the unlikely event that they do win. It's likely going to be reversed verse by the. US Supreme Court given that there is passed legal precedent for the courts not being the arbiter of deciding the level of carbon emissions within the US. US This is something which the voting populace needs to decide which would mean that in order for any of Greta strikes to lead to tangible policy. Reform the constituents in a country need to be convinced because like I stated earlier D. student climate strikers organized by Greta unfortunately do not have much leverage over either governments or fossil fuel firms. Now as I mentioned at the beginning of this episode to winner of the International Children's peace surprised is one who has and I quote again from the website made a significant contribution to advocating children's rights and improving the situation relation of vulnerable children. Keeping that statement in mind our Grad his contributions to this 'cause even comparable to what all our ethic are have done. The quantitative results of her activism have led to the Hashtag. How dare you garnering more than one? Hundred thousand retweets on twitter and the Organization of climate strikes around the globe. As we've said earlier greg. His activism has certainly been positive in terms of spreading awareness but hasn't really advocated advocated for improving the situation of vulnerable children worldwide. More importantly what is it done to actually combat the climate crisis prices that we're facing. What are her plans going forward so without further ado? Let's get to the second question that I wished to dissect on this podcast. What is her plan to combat climate change? Now we've all heard about Grenada's awesome speech at the UN where she in passionately lambasted these as world leaders for their inaction on climate change. We've also all heard about how awesome her journey to the UN to deliver. That speech was the the quote unquote carbon-free journey where she embarked via sailboat. From Plymouth in England to New York City now while it certainly not easy. Take a sailboat and embarked on a two week journey from Plymouth to New York. Did you know that two of her initial crew members had to fly to in New York at the start since there wasn't any space left on the sailboat. And did you also know that. Two of her crew members had to fly to New York after regretted journey in order to sail it back from New York to Plymouth says Greta was sticking around in North America for an extended period of time after her speech. This is not awesome random conspiracy theory that I'm paddling by the way major European media outlets such as the times and the UK Andor Spiegel. Germany have confirmed this Julianne Jonge gear a member of the creative professional's networking group and senior journalist and editor based out of Michigan in the United States estimated that the the flights taken by those four people load generated more than two point one million grams of carbon dioxide. And what does this number look like. For perspective respective the US Environmental Protection Agency estimates that roughly two hundred thousand acres of forest would be required to offset that level of of carbon emission so this is emblematic of what is generally wrong with a lot of efforts in the climate activism space today the lack of a practical solution to cut down on carbon footprint in scalable and cost efficient manner. And don't just take my word for it. The University of California Climate Solutions Russians group. Infers that unless future climate proposals actively account for cost efficiency and its practicality within a strong regulatory regulatory framework those climate proposals would ultimately be rendered to list Greta Bloomberg has been immortalized as the face of the climate movement movement. But has she actually been the most devoted climate activist in terms of commitment to preserving the environment. Well when we look at add global outreach regarding the fight against climate change and in terms of sheer time spent preserving the environment it is super hard to discount at the impact of Solomona that Mika from Tim coup which is a rural district in southern India. Her story is simply mind boggling. She's lived for more than a century still alive today. By the way at a hundred seven years old She grew up impoverished in rural southern India and is a recipient of the pod mastery and has an international NGO called thin macos resources for environmental education which functions bulletin Los Angeles as as well as in Oakland in California when we look at all of this alone. It's already far more than what Greta has brought to the table. In the fight against climate change inch and like Mrs Dominica there are numerous other individuals around the world who were making efforts to preserve their local environments. But yet they're we're not receiving the same spotlight despite having done a ton to preserve the environment and who hail from far more vulnerable parts of the globe then Sweden. There's probably another Solomona that in your backyard. Who you've never even heard of so far grotto's most prominent prominent geopolitical action is filing an official complaint against five countries France Germany Turkey Brazil and Argentina China for their failure to prevent environmental degradation in their respective jurisdictions? Now all this sounds well and good but the complaint seems to have have no tangible and goal in sight apart from ensuring that the five countries will do their adequate share to cut down on carbon emissions. I mean we've all heard that before right. It's not like we've never heard politicians or heads of state make empty promises. So here is the thing. There's no penalize regionalization. There is no sanction that can be meted out by the international legal system. Should these countries failed to comply with grads demands. There is no oh real incentive to cut down on carbon emissions insofar as it promotes economic growth in a cost efficient manner. which is the reality for for a lot of these countries today in conclusion? Here's what we can surmise about. Greta and her activism her activism has done an amazing job job of garnering much-needed media attention on a highly pressing issue. And it's also brought about increased awareness. Add vigor in the fight to preserve move our environment however this awareness vigor and activism needs to translate into tangible policy reform in order for her her to be heralded as the champion climate activists of our time. So let's take a look at three reasons why her activism needs to go a long long way way. That is if she's serious about making any sort of meaningful change the first so we know that she's filed a lawsuit against five nations agents. Brazil Argentina France Germany and Turkey. But you know who the five biggest polluters per capita in the world today are it's the US Saudi Arabia Canada South Korea and Australia. None of whom she's included in this lawsuit even if we take her at her best case scenario. Which is the symbolic lawsuit? We spoke to you about earlier. GIULIANA versus the US will in all probability ability get reversed by the Supreme Court as Stated by Columbia University's Center for climate change which we sided and spoke to you about earlier in this episode and the top five countries generate more than sixty five metric tons of carbon per capita per annum to put the things in perspective again. What does this number look like as for the US Environmental Protection Agency? This level of carbon emissions is enough to power more than thirty million smartphones so unless her activism magically finds a way to incentivize these five nations nations from cutting down on emissions. It is super unlikely that she's going to have any global impact in the fight against climate. Change the second reason Greta Foon Berg hails from Sweden. which is a highly industrialized? Society would less than ten million people bull to put things in perspective. That number is smaller than the population of most metropolitan cities in countries like India. Brazil will China or the US aid. Rio De Janeiro New Delhi Shanghai. These are all cities that have more people than all of Sweden. So the reality reality is this a lot of the majorly populated countries right now need to emit some form of carbon in order to get to the same levels of industrialization socialization that the Nordic countries like Sweden or Norway or Finland. Enjoy today. Tom Audela. Who is a journalist as a part of the Associated Press Presses East Africa Bureau reports that ninety percent of the waste in nations that are classified as low income is either burned or or dumped owing to a lack of proper waste management infrastructure the National Center for Atmospheric Research in the US states? That burning waste is a major reason for the worsening of Air Quality Day state that almost thirty percent of global emissions that cause air pollution. Come from waste-burning. I think now a lot of these. Low income countries don't have the mechanisms to recycle or process the waste that they generate. Why is all of this relevant for starters? How do you expect those countries to transition to renewable sources of energy like wind or solar hydro and cut down on their carbon footprint rent when they're burning plastic and burning rubber just to dispose of them? I for one can't help. But think that Grenada's preaching to the rest of us to assembly stop burning even though there's no real alternative proposed comes from a highly privileged point of view. Sweden had time to industrialize. Sweden had time to develop so they can afford to divorce themselves from the realities that low income countries go through to dispose of their waste. Ace signed APPS energy and environmental consulting firm based in Boston says that solar panels are luxury for the citizenry of the US. So then how do you expect. Countries like Ghana Baucus Tan or Liberia. To make this transition if people in America think this transition is expensive if the citizens of the low income developing world were all on twitter the might have even asked Greta how dare you in response to her wistfulness to have everyone transition to renewable resources. This reality is a sobering reminder that Greta Thune Berg while her intentions and activism maybe well well-meaning hails from a socioeconomic upbringing that cannot comprehend many of the realities that serves obstacles to solving climate change the third and final final reason carbon emissions are going to continue to get polluted insofar as both economic growth as well as cost. Efficiency are on the table. So that being said Said Gratis. Best Bet is best echoed by on Mahindra. Who is the chairman of the Mahindra Group in India? which is one of India's largest companies is an is an MNT worth roughly thirty billion dollars? Here is her to find a way for sustainability to promote economic growth. But not wild. That's a great solution. To harsh reality is right now. It would cost countries and immense amount of time and money to make that transition and the Institute for Energy Research estimates that it would cost four point five trillion dollars and at least the next three decades for low and medium income countries to successfully make that transition again for perspective four point five trillion dollars is roughly a quarter of united skates GDP. So where will these poor countries get the cash from. It's only once. Sustainability brings the same promise of economic growth and and cost efficiency as fossil fuels do D- Global Fraternity can work on collaborative solutions to more efficiently invest there are Indian tax tax credits. Unsustainable practices that are not only environmentally friendly but also economically viable. And until. And unless that happens. It's I'm just going to be deemed as privileged discourse where those individuals who hail from small and industrialized economies are chastising the rest of the world to do not develop and to not burn fossil fuels without providing any alternative as to how we can use ECO friendly renewable sources of energy to our advantage while remaining cost efficient in conclusion. I've got a couple of things to save as a sixteen year old Greta. Thune Berg is certainly commendable. Most sixteen year olds me included. Were probably just playing xbox all day at her age without a care in the world and she certainly has gotten a lot of people involved loved the discussion. And you could even argue that. This is only the beginning of her journey but the hard truth is this. She has been the recipient of an insane amount of media coverage and has been deemed as our savior right now to combat the climate crisis. What about the other unsung heroes in your backyard? Around the world in low and medium income countries that we've been ignoring we've shown you in this episode itself that there are other activists both for the environment as well as for for children's rights who have done more than Greta has but have not received any of the attention. I cannot help but wonder that given Greta does lack of understanding thing about the context that racial minorities and other impoverished communities live through around the world have we chosen the right person as a symbol for the movement that is supposed to be dealing with the greatest threat that our generation is facing. So that's all on this episode of a whole lot of great. If you liked this episode and want to stay updated. John Future Conduct. Please be sure to subscribe to this channel on Apple podcast spotify youtube or whatever platform. 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Greta Gerwig on Art, Commerce, and Female Ambition
"This is kick ASS news. I'm Ben Mathis Academy Award. Nominations were just announced. This week and a record breaking number of women are up for Oscars this year accounting for no less than a third of all nominees. It's one of those. dominoes is incredibly talented writer actor producer and director Greta Gerwig who will be returning to the Oscars for the second year in a row following following her writing and directing nominations for last year's Lady Bird. This time around. She's being hailed for her masterful. reimagined action of Louisa May alcott's beloved novel Novel Little Women which has received six Oscar nominations including for best picture and best adapted screenplay for Greta Gerwig and today. Greta joins me on the show to talk about the daunting task of adapting an American classic. Delving into Louisa May alcott's diaries and letters to imbue her film with even more of the author's own personality personality and why it was so important for her to acknowledge the original ending. Alcott wanted to give her book before. Her publisher talked her out of it then. She talks about the status of female directors and writers in Hollywood recalls a conversation. She wants hat with a studio executive about how women talk that made. Its way into her latest I film and how Meryl Streep inspired some of her most insightful dialogue about a woman's role in Nineteenth Century Society Greta also reveals that she was secretly grittily pregnant while filming little women and what it's like for her and her husband Noah Baumbach to both have competing movies vying for best picture this year. Plus last we talk about whether actresses in the thirties and forties got better roles than actresses today and our mutual love of the films of George Cukor. Greta Garbo and the wicked wit. Dorothy Parker coming up with Greta. Gerwig in just a moment Greta gerwig making a feature film adaptation of Louisa May Alcott Book Little Women has been a lifelong Labor of love and her passion for this timeless classic has now been validated with universal praise for her film as well as six Oscar nominations including best picture and and a best adapted screenplay nomination for her Radha. Congratulations and welcome to the show. Thank you so much this is now. I believe your Third Oscar nomination. When you've gone from making lady bird for I think ten million dollars to a forty million dollar studio film with this incredible cast including a megastar like Meryl Streep when when you embarked on little women? was there any part of you that felt like you sort of had to acknowledge this moment this transition and maybe even sort of mourned your scrappy. Low Low budget independent filmmaker. Well it was it was definitely Heady going into this. I mean I'd wanted to make it for so long long and to assemble this level of cast was extraordinary. I felt like I had to pinch myself every day. And also it started really with the pre-production because My costume designer Jacqueline Duran with someone who had followed for a long time. She works with Mike Lee and she works with Joe Rights Eight and she's just extraordinary and my production designer. Just GonNa work with Cohen Brothers. So I was like already gathering people that I I had been tracking being their work for years and then to get this cast. I mean the whole thing was amazing but I will say the even it was much bigger budget and a much bigger scale L. in this epoch story There is a level in which making movies. You're always it's always scrappy. You're always fighting for every dollar so you're always fighting the clock it's not I mean maybe if maybe there is some version of a movie that doesn't feel this way but actually actually to make a movie for for very little money and to make a movie for a lot of money fuels so far quite similar. Yes I mean I I mean there's more bells and whistles there's more Stephan and the amazing thing of Z.. Yes to oversee the table more money on the table. There's a lot more the pressure but it's also I mean you know it's it's always the same dance of like. Oh we're going to have to shoot these three scenes even though we wanted one day for each scene we're going to squeeze them all into a day and then move from here to there and so it's It's it is bigger but it it is. I have not yet reached the level where Mike like. Oh maybe we can just You know think about what whether or not we WANNA shoot today. I mean I've heard of people that happens to that has not yet happened to me every day. It's like when that clock doc starts. I am like in a blind running until the days over and then I collapsed and then it starts again and just proof that women are way a better life than men. I read that you were actually secretly pregnant while you were filming. Little women was better but it did make me present. I mean I don't know if I was directing a forty million dollar film. I'm pretty sure that I would have morning. Sickness everyday onset ally that would be extraordinary. CANARIAN are pregnant at least if it would be a movie. What was the hardest part about that? You know that thing was if it felt actually I. I was lucky. Felt pretty much like just me Me Doing it I mean I I did I. I was lucky because I also it was. You know moved farther and farther into the winter so the more and more pregnant. I got the bigger in the bigger the coats dot which Everybody's everybody's everybody's sort of accepted is that was just I was wearing drank oats but I would say I would say just this kind of you know movies often move around in schedule and so There was a moment early when I you know I knew this was happening and then there was like maybe we're going to have to push the film and I was like we can't. We can't push the film we just can't and they were like why they because because it just can't do it gotta go now. My wife is pregnant right now. With our first WHO's coming in February and yeah there is a thank you. Thanks thanks I mean there. Is that instinct where I want to call it nesting but like you want things to be consistent and understandable which is the opposite of making a movie in a lot right now no I mean but it was also. It was also just marvelous to know that I had a a little man smuggled onto the set of little now I read that you actually turned in the rough cut twenty four hours before you went into Labor. Is that right seventy two hours. It's been shortened in the game of telephone. No Had the studio common the Watched it and then seventy two hours. Later I was had a little person I mean. was there a little bit of a sense of urgency. Like I kind of have have to put my creative baby to bed before I can give birth to my biological. I didn't think of that. I Want my editor who I've worked with twice. Now who has he. He actually has two small children So at a certain point and he was like home and worker the same for me. I had a baby and he was like I just left the baby we now. There's another baby like this. It just melted into one thing. I don't know how he functions But he he and I like when I got back from shooting and we talked about it and I I was like okay. Here's roughly when may due date is and like I want to try to get a real a real real cut together and let's work like mad until that that until we get there so we we worked really hard and And then yeah. I had a sense that as soon as soon as the studio La- saw it and you know hopefully liked it the then I would And I would just be like all right. Let's do this kid any advice from my wife. Kristen we're taking advice from wherever it comes in in February twenty-second my God so exciting. I don't know advice I feel like I mean I don I'm this is not exactly advices and maybe the opposite of advice but There is no right way to do it so so however it comes about is the perfect way. Your if he's long you're healthy the baby's healthy like I think you can get kind of caught up in like it's got no what about at this. What about that? Yeah exactly exactly someone says someone said it was older they We had a shower and they were like I was saying you know like I want. I want this thing and I want that thing. They were like you have at least twenty years to mess him up. He can't do it all just the the hat right. It said there's no way there's no right way are the place where we're taking classes. They have a big neon on sign. That says birth is birth birth. So you already have the base but also. I don't know that you can set your bar for doing stuff. Tough really low for the first couple months just still just step outside on a porch. That's a good day with regard to little women. When did you first become aware of this book? And and when did you first start to think that you'd like to adapt it for the screen. Sure sure Well I I grew up with a book. I there was actually never a time when I didn't know who the march sisters were. I always knew this book as so why I read it and I reread it and reread it. Because Jo march was the was the character who I loved loved most and she was the one who made me think I could be a writer and I you know I was I I had I had read it. Read it and then I hadn't read it since I was probably fourteen and then I read it again was around thirty and It was just it just jumped out at me like like the basically the movie that you see it was it was like I saw it as a film So I you know it felt really modern it felt really pressing the themes felt incredibly relevant to me personally and even though it was a book I'd grown up with. I felt like I'd never read it before so it was like A. It was kind of lightning bolt moment but It took you know I'm thirty six now so there. There was a lag between that moment. And now the time to ruminate yes and I n. a. and I hadn't yet directed a film so It was a long journey to get to the place where I was then. You know the choice to directed but Oh boy I'm so glad it worked out for sure it did ahead. You watched it. I think there have been like something like seven. This is now the seventh of death station for this green. Had you watched any of the other movies before. Sure I'd watch those movies when I was Growing up and I loved them I you know. Oh there's a I mean there's the three that I think of most vividly were The Mervyn Leroy Roy. Version the George Q version and the Gillian Armstrong version and so those three were very formative formative for me but I actually didn't Go when it was writing it. I actually didn't go back and watch them because hey wanted them to live for me like Like I think they lived for most people which is almost like a collective memory of these images of cozy family. Yeah Christmas like what that is and I was like well. I want to play with the idea of memory and I wanNA play with the idea of what what that those kind of moments are in our consciousness And and I didn't specifically look at them again so I relied speed suggest on the text and memory of those movies. Yeah I like what you did with it where you took this book that has very linear narrative and you cross cut between the March sisters adulthood in their childhood. which is kind of a little bit of a hallmark of your films? I guess the kind of looking back and the memory and all right I mean I think I'm interested trysted in. I think I'm always interested in memory and time and how he explained ourselves in our our lives back to ourselves through art I think that's interesting But the WH- The way I had conceived of making the movie was starting when they were adults and then having childhood be something that was in conversation with their adult cells and it was both this. You Know Snow Globes of Halcyon Alcyone. Daisy can't get back to coziness of sisterhood. And then also the way informs who you are as a grown woman But the you know the structure of the screenplays is that there are two different timelines of the movie but that everything moves forward so I start the movie when they're grown up in eighteen sixty eight and everything goes forward from there but I also then start the movie in eighteen sixty one and everything goes forward from there now. The movie needs to work emotionally whether Whether or not you are intimate with details of little women but I knew I wanted it to be sort of rigorous in its adherence prince. Two the rules of the timeline. So that the people who who do know it can they are certain about where we are. So yes yeah that's right that's right but You know it was a trick of a it was a trick of a screenplay right at a indefinitely you know when when I was editing it And it gets quite Meta towards the end You know something whereas this is this is a hat trick trying to figure his out But it's it's very much That establishment of of of a contract with the audience and if tone and so that by the time you get to the end you sense that it was coming on some unconscious level. Yeah I I just loved it. I thought that he just had so much life to it. It was cacophonous in chaotic and kinetic as if we were walking into any old American American household today in two thousand twenty with four girls in it. Yeah well that was something I I really wanted to capture. was that energy of Really being in a household with four girls because the main thing I think of when I think of four sisters is just how loud it is any family. I knew where they were. Lots of sisters. It just really loud houses and I I loved that I mean I have a brother and sister but I that I never had the four all at once and So in some ways I based off for my best friends from college yeah in the in the energy of of of of being with them and You know my sought was like for for all of time girls our girls And so I think it was just as loud in the nineteenth century as it is now and another thing was like little details that I'd written into the script but then realizing it on the set was so gratifying. Where things like I wanted their broom to be really messy because because we would have been really really messy they were they were girls was it's GonNa be a teenage girls getting ready to go to a dance all the clothes on the more exactly. I just felt like I wanted it to be kind of a mess and and finding actually the messy nece in. The house was a big part of the character because it was like okay. It's not just so everything's kind of Thrown in the air and and and and his left where it fell. We're GONNA take a quick break and then I'll be back with more with Greta. GERWIG when we come back in just a moment in today's episode is brought to you by Kronos. Kronos knows that for many organizations. Maintaining a modern workforce of hourly full full or part time workers can be a challenge. This is especially true for human resources professionals working hard to attract and retain all the best talent that's why Cronos puts HR payroll talent and timekeeping on a single cloud based platform. It's one specially designed to give. HR professionals supporting a blended workforce force a whole new level of confidence with Cronos. They have everything they need to tackle. Nearly any human resources challenge and are empowered to not just find and hire the right people but to engage motivate and reward them every step of the way learn more about Kronos. HR solutions for the modern workforce in the the people who support them at KRONOS DOT com slash. Hr Swagger that's cronos dot com slash HR swagger kronos or knows workforce innovation that works and now back to this show and I know that most most of your previous films. Maybe all of your previous films were original screenplays. Was this your first time doing an adaptation. And did you find that at all. Daunting yeah totally. especially because they loved it so much and especially because I had such a such a feeling for it that I was hoping I would communicate to the audience but I think because I had such a you know like a lightning strike moment with the the book when I was rereading it as an adult I just let that be my guide because I was certain of this kind of third Singh I wanted to create. That wasn't merely a distillation of what had been in the book but that it was it was another turn that I was is interested in so But yeah got it's and it's also terrifying because you it's beloved not just pay me a lot of pressure a lot of people. I love this book and you want to honor that love. You don't WanNa make something that that that messes with the love you WanNa make something that deepens it but in some ways. I think that you almost brought more of Louisa May alcott spirit into it. which she couldn't do at the time? I was fascinated the to read that I guess her original ending for the book was kind of discouraged by her publisher. And you at least give a little bit of a nod to that in the film. That's right new sheet it will Louisa May alcott interestingly You know she she didn't. She didn't want the character of Joe March which in some ways an Avatar for herself. She did not want the character of Joe March to get married But the publisher of her book and and and Fan letters really relate. Nick get gotTA GET MARRIED So one thing do from the very beginning is play with this idea of what you do with female characters in the publisher says Married her dead which is kind of a joke but it's also completely true Women in her book had to end up married or dead and I I wanted to in some ways one hundred and fifty years later tried to give her an end do she might have preferred So I wanted it to honor the ending that she made. I wanted to do what she had written in the book and then I also wanted to create enough reflexive in my my screenplay and my movie where we could explore what what hadn't been true for the character but had been true for Louisa Which is Louisa never got married? She never had children but she did. Keep the copyright to her own book and she became massively wealthy and that book sold out in two you weeks of its first printing and it's never been out of print since she was a little bit of about it. Yeah and I think it's actually number two on the New York Times bestseller lists like now A. Wow now I have to double check. That isn't that amazing. She's on the best seller list again. You are more than a little bit responsible for that. So that's kind of it. There's a small part of me that feels like Louisa. We did it again when you were digging into Louisa May alcott's journals and her letters and some or the other books. was there anything that came sort of a revelation to you. How how kind of mean and funny she I mean she was? We describe it now. A snarky shoes snarky and she was she had kind of an acid tongue. She could kind of I. I mean I gave her some of the lines That she she she said in letters or in books To to sue Sir Shas because I was blending miss idea of Louisa May alcott and Joe March But the line She has this. Line Friedrich the professors criticizing her writing and she says I can't afford to starve on praise. Which is what Louisa May alcott said? After Henry James had panned one of her books in the Atlantic ruin and her same at. Is You know both bids doing double duty. Because it's also because he was also very wealthy and she was like we're not not all born with a silver spoon in our mouths friends like it was very it was she was but she had the abyss she had a good. She had a good witty retort and she did she was kind of mean about her own fans. You know she yeah she has she had a line about little women. She's you know. She said she dismissed it. She said it's moral pap young. She has a little bit of doors. Yeah that's right. That's that's the one because I was I was I was thinking king of different women. She's in the tradition of Dorothy Parker's is exactly right. I mean you you could definitely see her at the Al Franken. uh-huh like quipping with the best of them Fluently we'll you certainly have done her justice. The films just terrific now. You're known for bringing sort of semi-autobiographical elements into your films and with little women. It was interesting because it's almost hard to tell where the autobiographical elements of Alcott's Alcott's life and the elements that seem autobiographical from your life. Beginning end I know it's a well. It's so funny. Because they feel like because they grew up with his book and because I love the character of Joe so much. I don't know how much I love to Joe Because Joe was like me or I love Joe so I made myself like her But that's the marvellous thing about Fiction that you love when you're young is that you blend it with your sense of self in a way that's You know walk quite uncontrolled by you so yes and also oh I will say This movie is about a lot of things but when I when I was rereading the book and I was rereading scenes with her was with the publisher in the book. Who said things like morals don't sell nowadays and you know the like you know? Make make your make your story short and spicy. I thought of myself as a screenwriter talking to heads of studios or producers It's a very similar conversation that happens and I and so. This movie is about many things but it's also about making movies. Yeah and I love another one of those scenes between Joe March and her publisher where he's basically telling her that people aren't interested in women's stories and it sort of echoes. Something I once heard you say when you were making lady bird. Where was this male studio executive? who asked if mothers and daughters really talk that way? Yes yes yes yes yes. That's right. No they he did. He didn't he didn't have a daughter. You know it's Something that it i. I've said this before but I'll say it again because it's it's worth repeating that men don't know what women are doing when they're not there so they don't really know how sisters and mothers speak around which is at or even friends girlfriends ends So I think in some ways. How can you know what a world is if if you're not exactly in it but but you know but I I I will say Despite that something that's been amazing is the way. I'm amy. Pascal his producer. So wonderful and she fought for for everything in this movie so hard But you know Tom Rothman who runs Columbia Pictures Sony. And he said I mean you know what this is. You know what you're doing. Yeah I WANNA go ahead and get out of the way which was amazing easing and Louisa email. Its own publisher I. She didn't really know what she had and neither neither did he. And it was his nieces uses who read the manuscript and came to him and said what we can have more of this. Do you have any more of this. Where it what is the story and that was when he was like even though I didn't know what this is they do? You trust them Trust your audience. Those has girls. Yeah thank God. He had nieces otherwise. Wouldn't be sitting here I mean. Are you amazed that here. We are one hundred fifty years or more after little women and in so many ways. Female artists are still having to argue for the value of telling women's stories. Yeah well I definitely think One of the amazing things is is how how much in in in not not only my lifetime but in the span of time that I have been working in the film industry it's gotten better And it's gotten better because of female storytellers writers producers directors and. It's also gotten better because frankly frankly the audiences there and they're going to the movies and they wanna see those movies and they wanna see those stories and that's the argument that is the final word and all of it is there's an audience and they're excited for these stories and it's not just an audience of of of only women is an audience of women and men who are Dr Pump to go to the movie theater and see something that I haven't seen before out. It's worth noting that I think a record breaking number of women are now nominated for Oscars this this year including yourself which apparently one third of the nominees this year Oak. Well done. I mean that's your that's an and also with The the Annenberg study that comes out every year that women represent it's the largest number of films made by women of the year before and the year before that and It looks to be just going up in the next few years and I think it's a it's a I I keep saying this but it's I. It's totally the wrong metaphor but I keep saying the glasses half full of women women. I'd like to see the system. It's just a glass of women. I think Mitt Romney said something along those lines. Oh the point. He was saying something like we have binders of women by the cost of the elections. Thanks no probably care era I love what you said about. How guys at least in that era and to some degree in this era are you're kind of unaware of women's lives and what goes on when you're not in the room and it makes me think of not just little women but the movie the women which I think was also George Course? Yes I I could tell you never know. I'd have to have a pretty good. Yeah I think that western Cuchara. That's right I mean I love director. He was known as the women's director director. I think which is why they brought him on the wind. Is that true that so interesting. Yeah I mean it's funny I don't I guess I don't always always totally know who is considered the woman's director or not. I mean it's so subjective to I don't have studio executives telling you his women's right yeah but I do think What I mean I? I love a lot of different movies but I grew up. You know I love the movies of this me as thirties and forties and and and those Those characters that are you know just can really sling it. Does those women who could really the Could not I'm in Katherine Hepburn of course but not just Katherine Hepburn also You Know Cara Lombard and Rosalind Russell and these great was great woman. I and of course the Great Bette Davis No one writes dialogue for women like that anymore. It's very rare. Yes yeah well no I you know it's interesting Meryl Streep said this and I've quoted it because it's really smart because she's actually one of the smartest people I've met not not just period. She's she's just so smart but she said them she said that The one of the reasons that there were so many great characters for women at that time. mm-hmm was that There is no real danger that she's going to take his job so if she's not going to take his job she can. She can be as outrageous and say whatever she wants because we're not worried that she's got any of that money away and as soon as it becomes an issue shoe later than female characters change And I was like. Why are you that smart? I know it is it is it's great and and I and I think it it gets something very true and there's this great monologue in the film by Amy March which she talks about kind of the tough choices and sacrifices that women have to make and read that that was directly inspired by your conversation with Merrill. Just another thing I still from. Yes no no this. A scene where Amy March describes really the stakes of marriage for her that that that would came directly out of a conversation precision with Merrill who who said this is what you have to make the audience understand and And also for me because of the character of amy who I loved it gave amy context that she didn't have before and I think amy has been a a misunderstood understood character and I felt that in some ways I wanted her to get some real estate as an adult woman to explain. Why why she thinks Sushi things before we go? I have to also say congratulations. To your Hubby Noah Baumbach. He's nominated for best original screenplay. Replay for marriage story also in contention for best picture. What's it like having competing films vying for best? Pictures are a little bit of friendly competition. honestly. There's just so much kind of amazed joy. At home I'd say It was a surreal moment when we both Looks at our phones yesterday morning. we can mutually had a moment of legs tend to face the music eh but then but then it was just I mean it was extraordinary. We were just totally ecstatic. And honestly what am I. Don't even know how to express how amazing it is because it is you know I. He made an amazing movie and The his movie and my movie or both being recognized by our peers. In this ways. Amazing I eh. You like. This is just like adjectives. Like big good adjectives. It's it is. It is something something might be bring to Oscars is home this year. Maybe stuff well again Greg R. O.. Greta Garbo I know you said Credit Card Greg did that because my wife said I thought she said Greta Garbo this morning when I said I was interviewing Greta Gerwig and then and she says to me WHO's credit card which happens a lot because I love old movies and she's about ten years younger than me. Yeah she's Nice. She says so if you said I want to be alone. She wouldn't be like yeah she would say why. Am I speaking that way. Medico Greta Garbo John unbear- More in grand total totally comic pairing I mean and one of my favorite line exchanges is she says says he's. He's in her room. She doesn't she's she he's a broken in and she said who are you and he says I'm just a man standing in your room. Invest Line reading I know John Not John Barren Barren would actually that in the women I think was the first experiment with with an ensemble cast because prior to that the studio exact said why would I waste two or three stars and movie stretching across threes interesting. I didn't I know that. Yeah well seriously the women would pay to see that ten times over if you did it. Well listen I mean maybe got my wheels turning I I get it I gotta figure I gotTa write the next one right well once again. Greta Gerwig wonderful film is little women and is now out in theaters. Greta congrats again and thanks for talking with me. Thank you so much thanks again to the delightful Greta Gerwig for coming coming on the PODCAST. Don't miss her film little women now out in theaters check your local listings for showtime's or visit little women dot moving. Today's episode is brought to you by Krona's broncos provides HR solutions for the modern workforce in the people who support motivated. Engage them. They I put. HR payroll talented timekeeping on a single cloud based platform learn more about Cronos. HR payroll talented time at CRONOS DOT dot com slash HR swagger. That's CRONOS DOT com slash. Hr Swagger if you enjoyed. Today's podcast cast be sure to subscribe to us on Apple podcasts and rate and review us while you're there five star ratings in detailed reviews are one of the best ways for new listeners to discover the show you can also follow us on facebook or on twitter at at kick ASS news pod in recommend us to your friends on your social media. 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To Greta Goes the Glory?
"What you're about to listen to may include some party talk then again may not. I hope it does though <music> it's thursday august twenty ninth two thousand nineteen from sleet. It's the gist i'm seth stevenson sitting in for mike pesca in absence you can expect expect seventy percent fewer puns and also much less identifiably regional accent a little about me. I'm a writer here at slate also one of the hosts of the secret history of the future podcast which is a collaboration between slate in the economist as you're hearing this our latest season is in full swing so once you've finished listening to just click over and subscribe to the secret history of the future and give it a listen so i noticed there's been a bunch of sci-fi adjacent news this week slightly creepy disquieting futuristic seeming things but but they're actually happening this week in the news. Truth is stranger than science fiction yesterday. Darpa sent out a disturbing tweet darpa. The defense advanced research projects agency basically the skunkworks for our military and they tweeted that they were in immediate need of the large subterranean space. Let me quote them here. The ideal space would be a human made underground environment spanning several city blocks with complex layout and multiple stories including atriums tunnels and stairwells us now that freaked some people when they saw it. I happen to know that darpa has an ongoing subterranean challenge officially called the sub t essentially a contest to create create new kinds of technology to help humans explore navigate and probably do warfare in urban underground environments so i had an inkling of what this was about but but here's what still freaked me out darpa was putting out a public call for an elaborate underground space and said it needed responses within two days well. Oh why the rush darpa seems like a sudden ramp up of intensity around this. I can only conclude that a dire underground emergency has occurred and that darpa needs to game plan lana response in a test environment right now quickly before things get out of hand as to what this emergency entails if you were in fourth grade in nineteen eighty-four or like i was you're familiar with the motion picture chuck todd that acronym stands for cannibalistic humanoid underground dwellers the movie documents in incident in which toxic exit chemical waste mutates a bunch of people who then hide underground in new york city and these people become the titular cannibalistic humanoid underground dwelling chad's. They're extremely dangerous and i'm pretty sure there were darras dealing with right now. It's it's another incident like this a chart incident so if you have a large subterranean indian space replete with atriums and tunnels please let darpa now. I wish darpa luck. They've got their work cut out for them. With the child's child cannibalistic cannibalistic humanoid underground dwellers shut. They're not staying down there anymore. In the news is today marks the official launch of the new united states space command or spacecom. This is not yet the vaunted space force. That comes comes later. Maybe as a sort of action arm of space calm for now space command joints the other commands like central command and cyber command but you know for space. Here's how president trump introduced the organization in the rose garden this afternoon so big deal as the newest combatant command spacecom acecomm will defend america's vital interests in space the next warfighting domain and i think that's it's pretty obvious to everybody. It's all about space. Those words trump was echoing defense secretary mark asper at his confirmation hearing last month asper said and i quote i think we need to fully develop the domain of space as a warfighting domain yikes warfighting domain so much for we came in peace for all mankind it turns out that space is an unsafe space. C._n._n.'s jim shudo published. A book called the shadow war earlier this year and he made the media rounds. He warned that indeed a space conflict among nations totally possible here. He is an n._p._r. Is the example of space so here we have both russia and china with weapons kamikaze satellites headlights floating in the heavens above us today they can take out and destroy u._s. Satellites china has a grappler kidnapper satellite. They call it. They can pluck u._s. Satellites out out of order. They're already up there. Kidnapper satellites yikes times for settling kidnapping is actually not the only potential space crime in the news. The new york times is reported that an astronaut aboard the international space station might have inappropriately logged into her estranged spouses bank account from a computer aboard the space base station. It's not clear yet if this was an actual crime but if it is it would be the first known crime in space except for when richard nixon's name went on that plaque we put on the moon which was a crime in my book on the show today i- spiel about gratitude berg climate change airplanes and sailboats guilt and hypocrisy and fleets com tom which i'll explain but i i talked to know a bookbinder whose legal organization citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington has been documenting the trump administration's in many instances of dubious ethical behavior verging into flat out corruption. Here's that this episode is brought to you by cox with contra tv tv from cox. You can find all your favorites all in one place. Does it have the youtube you bet net flicker thing netflix too and although superhero movies were has all the latest titles on demand. Oh my grandkids love that big green guy. I prefer the one with the hammer myself myself okay. I think we're done here now. Get all your favorite apps shows and movies right on contour t._v. From cox with us today is noah bookbinder binder. Who is the executive director of crew. That acronym stands for citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington. No welcome to the gist thank you. You get to be here okay. Let's talk about what's going on right now. Let's talk about ethics and the trump administration. I think people are generally aware of the sort of pin number of corruption going on but if you're just going to pick ethical situations around president trump you want people to know about where you feel something. Deeply unethical is being done. What what you're like. The truly egregious regis things that are happening. I think i think you really have to start with what i what i think of as as kind of the original sin of the trump administration shen which is the president's decision to keep his businesses these trump properties and businesses there have been more than twenty three hundred conflicts of interest contrast arising from the president's businesses those are cases where the businesses have intersected with the presidency and with the people seeking to influence it so things like the president <hes> visiting his properties like him announcing this morning and this is not didn't go into that list of two thousand three hundred <hes> that the next g seven summit will be held at his company and you know all of the political fundraisers his allies are holding it his as his properties and major lobbying groups particularly in industries countries that want to influence the president like fossil fuels are holding events at his hotel so that's <hes> that's one really huge area. How would you practically tweet solve some of these like you know. The president owns mar-a-lago guests can pay in order at sums of money to join mar-a-lago and then get the president's ear and influence on policy i suppose would would you make him. Salmonella would you would you. How would you handle something like that. If you walk in tomorrow and have your druthers about about what to do you know i think the the easy easy answer and the right answer is that <hes> president sales's businesses before going into office turn you turn them over to trustees somebody whose job it is to do things it's like this who sells the businesses for the best price at that here she can get president leaves with a pocket full of money but no <hes> <hes> no conflicts of interest in this way <hes> and when he's done being president he can do whatever he wants <hes> business wise but he shouldn't be able able to be in a position where he owns those businesses <hes> he knows what they are. He knows what will help them and he's able to to do that. While he's in office you you mentioned the joe. You know as we're talking. The president has just announced that he that he wants to hold the next g seven summit at his golf course durell golf course outside miami when when you when something like that happens is there like a bat phone at the crew center that lights up red and then you all leap into action what happens when you see a sort of ethical transgression in the making <hes> it's not too far from that actually <hes> we already knew about that as an emerging situation because <hes> he had already he indicated there already been reporting that was being considered and what are the mechanisms that you bring to bear what are like the tangible things that you can affect <hes> when oh you decide to to sink your teeth into one of these issues we can file a complaint which is different from going to court but we go to law enforcement or the administrative agencies and say hey this person did something wrong unit to investigate that and take action if appropriate <hes> and you know that will actually actually sometimes results in people losing their jobs or people being fired or at the very least raising awareness at because. I think it's it's a much better story. Sorry to tell that we took legal action than just that. You know we're really mad about extra wires the you re. Raising awareness is great but it's also nice to see actual swill repercussions happen you mentioned people getting fired or losing their jobs as anyone from the trump administration actually been fired or or or or faith any other kinds of real repercussions from from something that you've done <hes> sure i mean it's often <hes> can be a little bit difficult to know exactly why somebody leaves a job because usually there's not an announcement that <hes> that somebody is fired for x._y._z. reason <hes> but often when people leave we i will hear accounts that that <hes> complaints and violations played a major role in those decisions so people like <hes> former e._p._a. Administrator scott pruitt and former interior cheerier secretary ryan zinke more recently <hes>. There's an office called. The office of special counsel not to be confused with special a special counsel mueller. This is a different operation. <hes> the handles a law called the hatch act and it's a law that says that <hes> government officials can't misuse their our official position for for partisan politics and one person who does that constantly is is kellyanne conway and we accrue have filed numerous complaints detailing sailing all of the times that she's improperly used her official position <hes> to to advocate for candidates or against candidates she violated the law a couple of times she got called on it she kept on doing it <hes> and then kept on doing it some more and spoke publicly in a way that was contemptuous of the law and contemptuous of <hes> <hes> the agency that administers that law and in all of that led this agency to say that's enough. She should be fired and the and the president said essentially we don't okay. We're not gonna do it. She has not been fired despite all of these recommendations from the official bodies. I think you know for me and let a lot of people we just sort of before before this assumed that you can't do this stuff and if you did there would be like automatic consequences and now that's happening and it seems like there aren't any consequences and it's sort of the wilderness. Why aren't these repercussions like automatic. Why don't they just happened. I thought that that was just happening. It wouldn't be this process of someone saying no no no. You can't do that and then nothing happens. You know that that's been one of the things that we've really really learned over the last two years. Is that a lot of the checks and balances and protections that we relied on to keep our democratic system intact and make it work ethically and fairly the n._f. And effectively are not written into the law or where they are written into the law. They're they're written without self affecting enforcement provisions and they worked in the past because there was a a respect by people of both political parties across the spectrum for <hes> our norms and traditions and the democratic system. If you have a president who doesn't care about that there's actually a lot that they can get away with and one of the things that we've learned learned. <hes> is that <hes> if and when we come through this current crisis <hes> it's going to be really really important to change some laws and make some of the things is that in the past people have done because they were the right thing to do <hes> legal obligations yes so what are some of the laws you you if you could choose to be the first ones the the most important most effective things you think we could actually enshrine in law stopped this from happening again <hes> so one of the ones that <hes> <hes> gets it. Some of the issues i was talking about earlier is <hes> you know the fact that that there's a conflict of interest law that <hes> effects almost all federal employees always but it doesn't affect the president and so there is not any requirement that a president sell businesses and avoid conflicts of interest <hes> and that's that's obviously something that that needs to change you know similarly. You know things like a president. <hes> disclosing tax returns was tradition tradition it. It's a it's not law and that is something that can be a weapon against <hes> abuses and conflicts of interest <hes> and self self-enrichment <hes> and so that ought to be made into into law. <hes> nepotism laws laws against you. Bring your family into a position those at least there's an argument humint <hes> that those don't apply to the white house again something that you wouldn't have imagined would be a problem in this country necessarily but <hes> now it's clear that it is and and what we're seeing now is when you have someone who isn't committed to democratic values. <hes> traditions are not enough and you need to actually change those laws. The thing that most recently got my goal was unless you weeks there was a an official white house events with the president <hes> tax payer funded but but he turned it into essentially the campaign rallies talking about potential democratic opponents and he's just a straight up campaign rally which is not supposed to happen in everyone on twitter saying this turns turns into a campaign rally taxpayers aren't supposed to pay this but what will there be any repercussions for that or is cruel looking into that what's going to happen. <hes> we are looking at that <hes> because you're right that that is not supposed to happen. We get into all these kind of obscure laws that people didn't think about much because people used to just follow them. This other law called the anti anti deficiency act which says that money in the federal government that is appropriate. That's supposed to be spent for a specific. Purpose has to be spent for for that purpose. Send that means that money. That's supposed to go for non political. Things can't be spent on politics. The problem here and we've seen it with this president before in that example in pennsylvania seems like a particularly egregious one is taking something that's supposed to be an official event and <hes> and turning get into a campaign rally whether it's plan or whether it's because this president can't control himself. It's something that we've that we've seen. Can you imagine if i got a fair press chris. I mean we're leading without it. Can you imagine if these people treated me fairly the election would be over. Have they ever called off an election before just said look it. Let's go go four more years. We are looking into whether action can be taken to at the very least make the president's campaign pay for for anything that became a campaign event. I want to something that president obama said in one of his last press conferences as after the two thousand sixteen election he said one of the things you discover about being president is there are all these rules and norms and laws and you've got to pay attention to them and the people who work for you are also subject to those rules and norms and that's a piece of advice that i gave to the incoming president present now the incoming president clinton listen to that advice so i want to ask you was present obama wrong their norms and laws that you have to pay attention to do you not in fact. I have to pay attention to them. I think there's maybe an an if clause that you could put at the end of that which is that there are these norms and rules and laws that that you have to pay attention to if you want a working democracy but if you don't care about that then maybe there's more room to get around in those rules and laws and norms than we were aware of the the next thing that obama said that press conference was was how proud he was the fact that his administration did not have a significant significant scandal and he said one reason that we listened to the lawyers but but for context i want to ask you what kinds of <hes> ethical transgressions did you find in the obama administration's administrations anything compared to what we're seeing with the trump administration. I think that i think it's pretty clear on the record <hes> that the the obama administration was a time of <hes> of quite few scandals and and ethical transgressions. They're just <hes> executive branch ethics six. Were not a big problem. During that that period we we certainly fought with the obama administration on some transparency and open government issues <hes> including <hes> the freedom of information act we wanted access to white house visitor logs and had to fight with them for a little bit before they eventually agreed to open them up and then the trump administration and reverse that and and closed it up so i'm not saying it was perfect <hes> but the scale was and we're not even in the same universe as what we're looking at now. Well there you you mentioned issue white house visitor logs lobby the obama administration so it seems like you had some success and then with the trump administration no success. What's the difference. Is it just a lack of shame shame. On what administration's part did you do anything differently. Why did it work one time and not work the next time i mean we we sued the bush administration the obama right ministration and the trump administration about white house visitor logs so our our role has been pretty similar all through it and it worked pretty well. We got <hes> thousands thousands of records over a lot of years that both helped tell the story about money and influence but also maybe in some ways helped to reduce a little bit the problems <music> of money and influence by by china light on it. You know everything we've seen from this administration from day one through this morning honestly we'd we'd much rather them. I'm do the right thing <hes> for the right reasons but if they did the right thing because they didn't like bad publicity. You know that's okay too but they don't seem to care about either of those. If president trump gets reelected. Do you have any predictions about what the next frontier ethical shenanigans could be. What is on the horizon when it comes to using power. What can we look forward to candice get worse. I guess there's there's there's an old yiddish saying it could always be worse. Homages isn't one. It's not one of the ones that gives me comfort <hes> but <hes> i think the area where we're a lot and that scenario is the sort of breakdown of key democratic principles some we certainly don't want to be in the situation where the presence of a court <hes> says the president can't do something and he just decides to do do it anyway and <hes> and that would be <hes> truly alarming if that happened. I'm not saying it will but it's certainly something of of concern of the president has already. You've been willing to say that he's not terribly concerned about what congress says he he can camp to and that's another thing that could potentially get worse. Well on on that optimistic note. I will say no binder these director for citizens for responsibly and ethics in washington. Keep fighting the good fight and thank you for coming on the gist. Thanks for having me. It's been great talking to you in the past <music> and now the spiel i am standing at north cove marina in lower manhattan near battery park there there are a few hundred people gathered here awaiting the arrival of greta tune berg on a sailboat. That's about <hes> country. The harbor and into the marina greta tune berg is a sixteen extend year old swedish climate change activists. She's become globally famous physically by telling adults. You're ruining the planet for my generation. Please stop doing that and today greta greta timberg by by the way. I'm not pronouncing that correctly. It's morally greta tune berry. I think the way that she says it but i'm not scandinavian so i'm not gonna try anyway today. Greta is arriving view sailboat here the north cove marina. This was not a pleasure cruise that she was on. This was not the leg of a regatta or something. The reason that she was on a sailboat is greta wanted to travel from europe where she lives to the united states where she wants to attend the u._n.'s climate summit and she didn't wanna fly on an airplane because airplanes are really bad carbon urban meters. They're absolutely terrible for global warming and greta hates carbon emissions and hates global warming so she sailed here in the boat she came on has solar panels and underwater water turbines that can generate electricity to power all the little electronics onboard satellite phones abrogation systems. The boat does have in oil burning combustion engine that usually we use this to get in and out of marinas where the space is too tight to maneuver using the wind sales but the vowed they were not going to use oil powered engine on this trip at aw so when they came out of the marina over in england at the start of this voyage instead of turning on their engine they got towed by other little boats that used electric motors to power their propellers. This is a pretty elaborate work around but the goal here was a one hundred percent carbon-free journey across the atlantic and greta did it. She's about to right right here. In the marina congratulations greta zero carbon emissions that was yesterday at the marina she did arrive. She came in tugged by a little vote with an electric motor so she was totally zero. Carbon all the way hetty times there was a lot of buzz in the air. They're the marino i'm back in the sleet studios now a little more more sober and subdued and i wanna spiel about this event a little bit. I i want to say that. I am personally very much in favor of reducing carbon emissions. I'm a recreational recreational sailor. I sail around new york all the time so i love to see sailing in the news and i actually wrote a whole book about circling the globe without using any airplanes i got across the nations hitching rides on cargo ships which aren't perfect but they emit way less greenhouse gas than airplanes. Do all that said i think this story about greta crossing the atlantic on a boat highlights a slightly ridiculous moment that we've arrived at when it comes to transportation and climate change a moment where our expectations for convenience don't align with dr principles about environmental responsibility in order to get across the atlantic ocean. Greta used pretty much. The fastest sailboat money can buy it is a sexy sailboat. I'll tell you a sixty foot racing yacht species materials. It's got hydrofoils. It is the ferrari of sailboats and it's super fast. Cruising speed is about eighteen miles an hour. That's at the wind is cooperating at some point on greenwich trip when i would look at the tracker. The boat was going more like twelve miles an hour which i i think you'll agree is not especially fast. It's about the speed of a bicycle as a result. It took a full fifteen days to get from plymouth england to new york city and that kind of timeframe really really just isn't practical for most people. If you've got a two week vacation from work and you want to go to paris. You probably don't wanna spend the whole two weeks sailing across the ocean to get there or that a business conference coming up in hong kong chances are your boss won't be thrilled if you take a month to sail there in a month to sail back in a perfect example of this quandary. Here's a guy we saw out at the marina. Yesterday he sort of stumbled into the hubbub around his arrival and he was cheering her on he was a big fan loved richie was doing kids are absolutely obsessed by and everyone in the u._k. Is yeah when we asked him if he would personally opt to sail for two weeks across the ocean instead of taking an airplane for six hours it turned out he'd come here for vacation with his wife on a plane flew over from london this morning say do you feel guilty about that. I mean we talked about that on the flight actually a little bit yeah yeah but with everyone has to make the decisions and did you have fifteen days to spare to get across the elite did not obviously we're working people. We took our some holiday in the u._k. This year whereas normally we would fly somewhere so yeah everyone estimate decisions right. I don't mean to single this guy out and greta herself recognizes. This is an issue. Here's what she told the times times about her sailboat adventure quote by doing this it also shows how impossible it is today to live sustainable that in order to travel with zero emissions that we have to sail like vis across the atlantic ocean greta was in part just trying to raise awareness by doing this but she also kind of had to do it. She had no choice if she'd flown here she'd you've been called a hypocrite by all the climate change skeptics who are rooting against. Are you see those kinds of charges lobbed at al gore whenever he flies in an airplane to give a speech about global warming you could argue view that the species giving will ultimately serve to eliminate more carbon emissions than his airplane ride created but in a certain sense it is a fair criticism of him. He's not walking talk. He's flying the talk. Another person who's gotten skewered on this recently as prince harry the british royal who's talked about climate change but he's also done a lot of private jet travel travel to for instance visit elton john's villa in niece in that case elton. John assured everybody that he paid for carbon offsets for prince harry's flights but if it's only the okay to use airplanes when you pay for carbon offsets that creates this unequal situation where people who can afford the offsets get to travel guilt free and those who can't afford them have to either not not fly or wallow in remorse about ruining the planet anyway. The jury seems to be out on whether carbon offsets are an effective tool. There's so much guilt out there right now about using using airplanes that the swedes greg people. They've invented a word for it fleets com. I'm not sure i'm pronouncing that correctly but it translates as flight shame deep deep shame about using airplanes the real problem here i would argue is that we as a society have arrived at a place where we know that airplanes are bad for the planet and we need to stop flying so much and flying planes is one of the worst things in individual can do when it comes to carbon emissions but at the same time we've developed a lot of expectations nations about covering long distances very quickly. Our society at this point depends on the ability to fly across the notion six hours so many things in both business and eliezer situations are built around that expectation. So how do we resolve this. I see three possibilities. One is just not travel long distances like that's not a great resolution though people like to see the world. I think it's a good thing prins. Our horizons might even reduce bigotry. The second possibility is that we figure you're out a way to fly airplanes emission free running them on soybeans or something that would be great and you'd think given the fact that we can go to mars that we can figure out how to make a low emission long-haul haul aircraft but we haven't yet and it doesn't seem like we're going to figure it out in the near term especially if our standard is that vehicles running on renewable energy needs to be exactly as fast just as vehicles that run on fossil fuels. That's a high bar which brings me to the one other thing we can do and this would be my preference and that thing is just to reset our expectations expectations. Maybe not back to the nineteenth century when you'd cross the ocean and a three masted schooner and take a few weeks but maybe back to say nineteen fifty two that that was before the dawn of the jumbo jet era and the ocean liner is still the way most people went between america and europe ocean liners gotten pretty fast at that point in one thousand nine fifty two oceanliner set a record which by the way still stands by crossing the atlantic in three days and eleven hours pretty fast right. I feel like that's fast enough. I know that if we stopped using airplanes things wouldn't be as efficient but what if we just agreed to slow down the world enough that it wouldn't be crazy to take three and a half days to get over to europe for a business conference or for your friends wedding. I feel like we could do that. We can just slow the world down a little bit in order to save it and that's it for today. Shell the gist was produced by pierre b._m._a. And daniel schrader fawzi to mike for letting me fill in i look forward to his return as much if not more than you do the gist i will take this final opportunity to again. Plug the secret history of the future now playing in a podcast asked app near you own peru diphu peru and thanks for listening.
How Greta Thunberg's school strike went global: a look back
"Every Christmas revisiting some of our favorite today InFocus stories. We made this episode back in in March when Greta Thornburg school strike was just starting to make waves around the world. It was incredibly exciting that we were able to include Greta herself on our all podcast when she was interviewed by The Guardian Global Environment editor Jonathan Watts about how it all began. Be sure to stick around to the end of the episode where we explore. What the impeach halts but Greta and for the strikes when I was maybe seven years old when I before I I learnt and understood climate change on what was happening with the environment I I saw the world? Nature's it's just something that was going to be there last summer age fifteen. Greta Timberg skipped classes and sat down on the cobblestones outside the Swedish parliament with a hand painted banner in the first school. Strike the climate action. She cut a lonely figure but uh-huh activism was quickly contagious before long she'd been joined by thousands of others and found herself speaking in front of world leaders at the UN and Davos adults. Keep saying we owe it to the young people to give them hope. But I don't want your hope I don't want you to be hopeful. I want you to panic eight months later and now sixteen this teenager with her trademark plants has become. I'm a role model to children and adults across the world. Her Movement has spread to seventy one countries including here in the U. K.. What tomorrow children will walk out of school school for a second climate? Strive to millions including me to make is an absolute inspiration but from some. She's attracted anger and hate today. We're incredibly lucky to be able to bring you an interview with gratitude. Bird carried out by the Guardians Global Environment Editor. Jonathan walks from the Guardian. I'm an East Gristana. Donna today in focus the teenager that inspired a global movement for climate action. Do you remember this time last. You what you were doing. Nothing really was happening in my life. I was just at school and went home. I read a lot about the climate it and the environment and society in General I. I was very annoyed in that way. I was very interested in this. And could you ever have imagined that you would one year later beneath leading a global movement. I Have I've always been always been and that girl in the back doesn't say anything and so I thought I I couldn't make a difference because I was too small and I just figured that's I'm going to try to do whatever I can. And it will probably not have an impact and didn't did become very big and I hadn't expected that it it was. It's unbelievable what was it that triggered you to to decide. You're not I'm just GonNa read anymore. You're not just GONNA feel bad about it anymore. You're going to try and do something a couple of years ago. Maybe two years ago I I saw film about negative mission. Technology called Carbon capture and storage. And that you suck. Co Two out of the air and then the film ended with that they said this is not going to exist in my lifetime. And then I I figure that the technology is not going. I just saved us and I became very scared because I thought we had this under control and then I decided to to take action myself. You decided right. I'm going to strike. I will send some kind of group with other people who are interested in the climate crisis in wanted to do something about and then there was a very vague idea of a school strike inspired by the Parkland students in the USA who had refused to go to school because of the school shootings turning our backs against the people who won't stand up for us. We're hoping to get their attention and they will start to represent what we're fighting for and develop that idea but no one was really interested city so I decided to do it. Even if there's no one joining me and so the Ni- I painted the sign of wood. And then I wrote down some some facts. Are you thought everyone should know on the fly. And I took my bike one morning to the parliaments and and just sat there for how long the first day I sat between. I think it was eight or eight thirty to three o'clock doc. Regular school the first hours known and already the second day people started joining me and then after that. There's people there all the time my name is Janine. Came and this is my niece gave Barry and where at the Swedish parliament's and get is on a strike. What did your parents think when their their daughter not even sixteen at that time is skipping school and going and sitting alone in the middle of the street when they horrified they try to talk me out of? It's like are you sure this is a good idea. Isn't there anything else you can do it. I said No. I have decided to do this. And I'm going to do this now and I won't let anyone changed my mind and in the night just did it. When I was about eight years old I first I heard about something called climate change global warming? I saw your Ted Talk and you talk about the fact that you have asperger's syndrome and selective mutism that basically means I only speak when I think is necessary now one of those moments. It said that this helps see things more clearly. Yes I I over think very much I some people can just just let things go but I I can't especially if there's something that worried me or make me scared or sad or or just interested than I that stuck on my mind and I can't. I can't just stop thinking about. It's I remember when I I was young in his school. Our teachers showed US films of plastic in the Ocean. Starving Polo Berson. And so on and I. I thought that was very sad. I cried through all the movies and in my classmate was of course because they were of course also were very concerned and worried and sad when they watch the film but then when the film stopped stopped they immediately stop thinking about it and just started thinking about other things. And I couldn't do that that those pictures picture was stuck in my head and I couldn't stop thinking about them in the same for the climate. I presume when you first heard about that again. Going back to your tedtalk talk you say that you I taught about it when you are. I think you said eight. And then you mentioned the afterwards you had A very difficult episode in your life when you stopped eating and you stop talking and you lost ten kilograms in two months was was this sort of was there a connection action Between what you learn about the environment and your your health at that time a or was it other issues play yes. It was a huge part of that. Of course there were other things as well that caused but the climate and the environment was very big causes. Because I was very worried and concerned about this I kept thinking about tonight. Just wondered how how the future will turn turnout if I am going to have a future if I if my children are going to have a future and so on and I just kept to myself because I'm not very much talker. I am very introvert. I think I keep things to myself. And there wasn't healthy so I became very depressed and so on and I also stopped going to school because I was so depressed when I was home my parents took care of me and we started talking talking because we had nothing else to do and then I told them about my worries and concerns about the climate crisis in the environment and everything that was happening happening and it felt good to just let that out of my chest and they of course they would like putting on my head saying everything will be right right and that didn't help of course but it was good to to talk about it and then I kept on going talking about this all the time and showing showing my parents pictures and graphs and films articles reports and awfully while they started listening to what I actually Johnny said and they understood kind of what. That's when I kind of realized that I could actually make a difference that I could make made make them aware of this and how I got out of that. Depression will die. SORTA myself that there is so much I can do with my life and I. I'm trying to do that still now. I mean it seems like you started off using your parents guinea pigs and you manage to to persuade them. I've read that you that they should be vegans. And your mother who's an opera singer shouldn't fly Yes that I mean I mean that. That's that's a huge sacrifice on their part so you must be incredibly persuasive. Actually no I just keep keep showing them facts and make them read books and and then they realize themselves and they they feel guilty and often off the time. It's just not sustainable. I I stopped flying myself when I travel. I take the train and it's it's so much more expensive than flying and it takes so much more time but it's it's worth it because I I couldn't look myself in the ice at the same time as I was living that lifestyle and the my mother stops flying and because she's she's famous opera singer in Sweden a huge debate in Sweden and ended on my father and it systems. Don't flying as well for you. Person is very important to practice. What you preach vegetarianism flying and so forth Where do you stand on this issue? That what we do as individuals consumers is relatively unimportant compared to the really big strategic things that need to be done at the political level. I think that we we need both individual action action and big political action and they are depending on each other. I mean if one person stuff's flying it doesn't really make a difference but if one person stops flying it can inspire others to do the same is it also sense emission message that we are in a crisis prices now in crisis you change your behavior and so we need individual actions but what we need more is radical political actions so the question is why do you think politicians are not doing anything. I have spoken to many politicians and they always say that they can't do anything without the People's will and today you don't get votes by having radical climate politics and that that of course need to change. Of course there are a lot of policies that don't want to do anything because they benefit from not doing anything but we we have to perpetuo on them so that they will do these things recently. You've had an endorsement by Angela Merkel. And you've met President Macron If the president of the European Commission Janka they seem to be supporting you now and jumping on Your Bandwagon A. D.. Welcome that you've cynical about that. What what do you think of them? I mean I don't really care if they it's good that they support me and and support this movement and all of the children but I mean they're still not doing anything so l.. I don't know really why they are supporting us because we are criticizing them so it's kind of weird and for for the politicians who've either ignored the movement or criticized you for not you but but you and the students for not going to school You know people like Theresa May or Donald Trump who's ignored. You not paid eight any attention. What do you think about them and their response to what's happening? I think that they are desperately trying to change Subject whenever the school strikes come up and I think it's because they know that they haven't gotten anything to say about this because they haven't done listen if the climate crisis really comes up as a topic then they will lose credibility and I think they on on some level realizes that you said in the past two part politicians leaders look. I don't want your hope. I want you to feel panic. I want you to fear feel feel the fear that I fear yet at the same time is almost as if you become a beacon of hope for many people. Do you feel that responsibility. I don't know I feel like people are so desperate for hope that they anything that happens. They they feel hopeful about and I think that's I don't care if I if what I'm doing we're doing is hopeful. We need to do it anyways. If even if there's no hope left and everything is hopeless we must do what we can. That is not an excuse for not doing anything because what is at risk is such solarge proportionate that we cannot imagine what will happen if we don't do anything on twitter I can't remember if it was last month or the month before. But you wrote a kind of rebuttal against people who were attacking U And and people claiming you are being manipulated related that you're part of the green conspiracy. How do you deal with that side of being such a well known figure now? I think it's a positive sign that there's a lot of hate because I I haven't experienced this much hate before. And now we get a love hate and that must be because they see us as a threat that that is that means that something has changed in the debate and that's we are actually making a difference. The year two thousand and seventy eight and I will celebrate my seventy fifth birthday. If I have children maybe they will spend the day with me. Maybe they will ask ask me about you. Maybe they will ask. You didn't do anything while there still was time to act. You say you love your children above all else and yet you're stealing their future in front of their very ice. Do you still feel that you are the girl in the back as you describe yourself at the start of the interview. I mean after all you are now speaking on the world stage stage almost every other week in front of thousands of people in on the television screens that are watched by millions of people. Do you still do have you changed. I know I don't think I've changed in that way. I I am still that person who I was before and some people think that being the person in the back that doesn't say anything is negative thing but I think it's a positive thing that it's we need to to take a few steps back and to take less place. It's nothing that I want to to change about me. That is just who I am. That was what made me do this as well. Because if I would have been just like everyone else and being social and then I would have just try to organize myself in isolation or start an organization of my own. Donald thinks like that but this I doing because I I couldn't do that. I'm not very good with people so I I did something myself instead. Said where. Where will you be for the global climate strike? On Friday march the fifteenth. I will be outside the Swedish parliament. It is going to be extra big also in Stockholm but also is going to be very very big internationally. Hundreds of thousands of children are going to strike from from school and say that we aren't going to accept this anymore and I I'm looking forward to. Its and to see all the pictures the day afterwards. And it's going to be fun I think and I'm interested looking forward. What are the next steps? How do you keep the momentum going? Of course this is something that can just die out and fade fade out with time. But I. I don't think so. I don't hope so in Detroit which prevent that. I will myself be patient and to be outside the Swedish parliament every Friday until Sweden is in mind with the Paris Chris Agreements. It may take my whole life but I don't think so. I think something will happen soon. Something must happen soon. Otherwise vice we don't stand a chance coming up. It's now nine months. Since since that chat with Christopher Thornberg and she's now a global icon now the last nine months have seen the Klima emergency captured. The attention of the world like never before and a lot of this has got to the work of Greta Thornburgh and the school strike movement. We caught up with Jonathan Watts. Mark this landmark year has meant for the sixteen year old protester and what to expect. Expat from the next so much has changed since I interviewed Greta earlier this year. She's pretty much conquered the world in months since then. She's been to global conferences. She's talked to the pope. She's been invited to the house of parliament she's been to the. US spoken to Congress and become an icon not just for the millions now students who follow her Fridays for future protests but many many other climate activists including like really veteran activists who've being in this area of campaigning for twenty thirty years and they say they've never felt as much as they do now as as a result of how seriously the youth is taking this issue and that's largely because of this movement that Greta has initiated initiated. The downside of that is that Greta has come under extraordinary attack. Very personal attacks with people snidey making references to her weird and other sort of coded insults on the fact that she has in the past being diagnosed with ASP urges. And it's really been quite extraordinary. How these predominantly middle aged conservative men including people like Donald Trump or Jeremy Clarkson or Giro Bolsonaro in Brazil have held back toll in trying to put down a teenage girl trying to make the world a better place but that shows as she says how effective she's being? She has made people pay attention and that has been perhaps her greatest achievement. Truly I don't think any of US could have believed quite how far she would it. Come in in such a short space of time. It's extraordinary the year ahead will be an absolutely crucial both for Greta and for the movement that she is part of it will be difficult because to maintain the momentum of this year when there's being protest with six million people taking part and maintaining saying that will not be easy but at the same time the stakes are going to be higher. Twenty twenty is an absolutely crucial year. It will be the year when the world tries to raise ambition and to get back in line with the Paris Agreement and actually go beyond the Paris agreement because it's failing so far and everything will build up to a huge climate conference scheduled for Glasgow next November. I think that will be an enormous focus of activism for Greta and the many other climate youth. I think next year we'll see a lot. More of that. Was the Guardians Global Environment editor. Sir Jonathan Walks do follow all of his great work on the website. This episode was produced by India Rakkason. Brennan Dowdell Rachel. Humphries Humphries and Courtney USA sound design was by Axel Kukuchi eight and Louis Stevens. The update was mixed by an chambers and the executive producers on a coal Jackson and Phil may not not feels like a good way to finish two thousand nineteen. I hate we have lots more from Greta in twenty twenty. I hope you have a brilliant really at night tonight. Happy New Year and we'll be back home I I.
"Welcome back to learn astrology with Mary. My name's Mary English, and this podcast called Astro, Mary which best nobody Shen to website called Astro. Mary. You won't find me. They find me at www Mary English dot com or marriage, Taku K or UK astrologer, doc UK. So I got a fab week my had quite interesting because he I'm today. I thought oh I've wanted to do this. I thought I would talk to you about. Climate change. And before you a scroll away own like Gaddum, and I'm not good about climate change. Specifically, I'm talking about. With any change as it was a person that brings it out. And you might or might not have heard of a young lady who greater than and she comes from the coal, which is Weeden. I think and she's been in the news recently. She started striking from her school every Friday and Stanton, apple side, local parliament with a banner and. Ha, publicity or actions, or whatever you wanna call it. Resulted in numbers of other children doing something similar now over the last week. There were a number of people striking a think see the Thursday or Friday last week was the particular day that they did it. They said the didn't go to school, and they went to their local parliaments wherever they might be and had marches and stuff. And of course, must new Beth little Sean and had marches, and there was a lot of activity and a lot of discussion. Now, we'll talk about is the particular lady and questions her name's Greta van Berg. So if we go to Wikipedia isn't entirely reliable, but we can give you up see a teeny bit about size. Greta put done Burke, she has her I actually fought her and Twitter in foreign half a walk. So that she's interesting. So. We Kapija says that she was born in Sweden doesn't mention the city that she's boom issues Turbie annoying. And in August twenty eighteen became a prominent figure for started the first school strike for climate outside the Swedish parliament building and about twenty eighteen she spoke at the Ted dex dot cone conference and December twenty eighteen she addressed the United Nations climate change conference mother's Swedish opera singer. Her father's an actor. She decided August not attend school until the sweet selection on the ninth is September off the heat waves and wildfires in Sweden. Now recently had tweets of ch. There was a lot of campaign us. We recently had tweets have changed a bit and Facebook page, and she was getting a bit concerned about people giving wrong information about her and saying the parents Amanda doing your four with the not because her parents to begin with were interpreting Garrett in invite the fact that she wasn't going to school. But I think they've changed their opinion now and the Wikipedia page mentions about people trying to discredit so she doesn't affiliate herself with anyone or anything. And there is no website. You can go to the Greta Lundberg. The you can sponsor how anything she now says the I she's not part of any organization. She's absolutely independent and do what I do completely for free. Now, I am putting link to the speech that she made what speech, but the Tech's speech that she made Incan Stockholm because she explains in her speech about herself certainly to repeat that and oh yes, there was one thing. I was going to check that she started to refuse to eat when she got to the age of eleven because she was distressed about the planets what was happening within stuff, and I'm going to go into her NATO chart in just a minute by just wanna quickly make that shot. So we can discuss as well. Is it worth rookie nuts? So hold on. Just a take. She is born in twenty two thousand three social turn eleven in the twenty four teams as to Stu twenty fourteen after her birthday cause a birthday January which is not today's date twenty fourteen and transits, and I will make sense just tick what was going on for when she was eleven. Oh. Equal house cannot look at Joe of is an equal house a host sowing my brain doesn't comprehend it. So when she's age eleven she decides to stop eating Pluto as transiting us on science. They go that was what made the change for her. So why did she suddenly become an activist? What what was it that triggered it for her? And. It would have been Pluto transiting has sons I know every camp corden had pre tie transit their son. Decides to stand outside protest outside the local political headquarters. But she did. So the bigger thoughts the explanation for us. So let's go back to her chart. So what I wanted to discuss today was. What is it about someone that might trigger them to beat? So concerned about something that they'll go public on it, and what sort of chart have we got? And I want to do to charter today because Greta says that she was inspired by the March for life campaign in America where by a lots of people ended up marching for gun control. And it was thought that in Sparta that so many people get together and do something and that was what was having spread. And so I am going to also discuss and Magan Gonzales chart because she inverted commerce led most of marches and did speeches and stuff, and I've also made chance for the dates that the two of them made their speeches, and then things slightly changed to first of all let's start with the NATO chart for grit. For Greta this me happened at all child. So that's what we're going to Greta first. And then we go backwards, and we'll do Emma so cool size. He'll get so I don't have a birth time for Greta, I don't even have a location or knows issues born in Sweden. So I've used Stockholm because that's the capital. I didn't think too much will change sign. The moon is many taught for is in the sign of capital and says she's son CAPCO Ming cap cornerback recap gone, lagaras, the Tampa, though still things but still stand she's got Eunice Neptune in Aquarius, which is an indigo signature. I talk about indigo 's in absurd number twenty one gigabit if you haven't heard about that, by the way, just joined us. Hello. But. You're up to episode and thirteen now. And the first twenty episodes of this focus would teach his dodgy. So if you just joined Steiner anything about start to the Duke about the beginning now in Greta 's case with her being a son sign capital in the sun and the moon of very close together. So it means that she was born on a new moon if the sun and the moon opposite each other fats of full moon. Jae-in used me years worth. So she bore the Newman. So the moon is very near to the sunshine. And we talk about when the moon and the sun together and the moon becomes combust. Because the the sun is a very hot Bernie thing in the moon is a cold thing. And if the two very close together, then you'll have a thing combust, and I think I talked about that in an episode Solomon combust, go back to episode forty that will give you formation a bit more about grudges charter Sundermann, very close together. But look Nardo nobody include this planet, but Aster, data, Aster dot com. Does. She has had Chiron conjuncture to her sons sign. Isn't that interesting? So car on is the is the wounded healer, it's where we heard it's part of our chart, but we don't want to have anybody plotting it because it will set off. I think I've done a book cost on car on episode. Thirty seven said his view other upsurge moment listening junction to this. And she's definitely got the summit current condoned, regardless at time of birth. So now, this NATO chart, I'm showing you got today's transit's going around it. So her NATO's on the inside the trans is going around. Now, the nice thing about strategies, even if you don't know the person's time of birth. I was used six AM as a default Taga didn't anybody's lunchtime low of astrology us, twelve o'clock as a default, Tom. I just think it's a nice so few people pull at lunchtime. This is generally born early in the morning mummies been struggling overnight. But yeah. Is that the success the D fulltime swig know where it says on this chart Esiason that we don't know her birth time? But I've using the system called whole sign and the whole sign system is similar to equal house in the old of a houses are exactly the same size, and you need to peps nineteen Seventy-nine about wholesome. The advantage to is let you know the person who's taught you're working on. What did they got in each time? So you can see clearly in her chart that she has three planets in the sign of Capra corn. And if we're including Karam, which smash droid Wilkin mate that four so she's a cluster of planets in capital, two planets and Aquarius, nothing in Pisces Aries, Taurus, she's caught Sutton in the sign of Gemini as a planet responsibility in this going retrograde, and she has Jupiter in the sign of Leo now. I don't know what to resend. And is she does seem capable of making speeches one tends to think if people have confidence to do that they probably got off arse on a Sunday. But that's not always the case. Because it depends what the talk about and she has a malls and Venus in Scorpio, and there can junked and she has Pluto in the sign of such terriers. So it took eleven years until. She was eleven when this life change happened for foot Putin to get onto her son sign in her moon sign in this when she decided not to eat. And was diagnosed with us ges. I believe associate must I think is purchase and Mutiso him. And she says that she only speaks when she feels it's necessary. And she feels is necessary now to speak about climate change. And I'm in complete agreement with them we do need to. But that's another matter making this Poku splits gorgeous making up a person. So that's a greatest chart, but Georgieva planet someone such a planet in four signs with a two opposite making a little bit of a bucket. So we couldn't double hand bucket. She's twelve point towards the end of the indigo generation they stopped being born the addity thousands because the outer planets Neptune, and you and this of the signature for the indigo generation. Yeah. That transit only happens. Once we one hundred seventy years and little don't let wishy sixteen young Greta was born underneath Thac signature now if we look at where the planets today, we'll see Venus Saturn Abreu to Emerson. So Sheba struggling up until now without being a cap on Pluto transiting over sons, I'm Madge, you got a second wind, and she's traveling around the world and giving speeches and not going on airplanes. And driving electric cars. Wherever again parents to help to get there by train. She is walking her talk and the sun is now in Aquarius, and it's triggering her Eunice. So that's going to make him both fervent about a planetary change. So if you and I'm speaking do now, we'll born with your year nece in the sign of Aquarius that the planet's going to be pretty important you. Aquarius and Eunice having affinity unis is the ruling planet to Aquarius back in the days to be Sutton before you notice UNICEF was discovered, and she also has a Neptune there as well. So it's perfectly understandable for her to be. The way that she is. And with the sun illuminating her Yoenis this more nightly what allowed the national international strike tap last week. So she oversee chose absolutely the right astronautical date. Now, let's go back to the date, but she made her first speech, which I have put links to these two speeches. I'm talking about today. The date. She made his speech to the just zoom in dune two things now seem in that she made her speech to Tech's in Stockholm K. So we have the NATO charter don't have a time signal the ascendant we used in whole sign because we have the time the time of birth. But we can see the signs that the planets in and on that date the son had chest gone into such terrace, which is international sign Jupiter. Sarah's well mixture grading look Pluto's now right on her moon. So when she was eleven blue to trigger in her son sign she gets to wherever h she is now done speech. Do the math Senate jilted older? Now Pluto's Ron Herman and Saturn has now entered into capital. Swale? So this gives her the strength to be able to do this. At the moon is right on her Saturn. She did give the speech that she gave was unforgiving. She. Didn't so much blame the audience as just highlight for them that talking about it isn't bringing any action and her complaint to governments is that the has been no meaningful action on climate change. So the date that that speech was given. I would say Pluto on the moon because when you watch it on a do urge you to do that. Because we're learning Stoller g here. I wanted to watch it because what was watching there is someone that is talking under the influence of Pluto. Blink on them moon. Yeah. So everybody or not everybody at least six signs of this. Oh, Jack are going to have Pluto on the moon at some point in their life. Please just take a long time to transit. But I don't think he's ever going to get into my moon. Be demonized never going to happen in my lifetime. But I will have hopefully are lived have Pluto Masan sign, but this is an illustration. Now, if you watch the speech you will see when someone is talking with Pluto on the moon. She is who knows if she's nervous. But the words that she's using the way that she's she's talking honestly from her heart from her feelings, and she is making a deep change and transformation. I it's it's pretty difficult to watch that particular speech and not be on if moved by a bit more than that just think crikey. You know, she's actually speaking the truth. I do think to certain extent she's living a lot of her. Aquarius. Punish chew? But now, the the India signature, a do think Anna's. I don't know what Tom is no idea to sorta as entities, but the whole environmental thing is the the unionist stuff yet. So that's just a little bit about Greta Thunberg who has been in the news, quite a lot reason as I've been following for wall on on Twitter because I think it's quite interesting seeing young people. Tackled subjects, and I think this the expression out of the mouths of babes and suckling 's that sometimes children can voice force stuff that we probably need to know more about or maybe there'd be voicing things that have element of truth to them that we need to be listening to and there's the other story that was the emperor's clothes and. An in the story that you know, he was and nothing on his minions had talked him into tell him that you were an invisible robe and some child in the audience said, you know, but the the emperor has no clothes, and it's the child with made the honest assessment of what was happening now. Luckily, gutters, NATO char. There's no stressful aspects to her son sign she's got a couple of things the Venus a Mazda making nice aspects the squares that she's got an her jar up between her Venus and Jupiter, and Venus Mars and tell you in this. So that's part of the motivating force to do what she does do. And there's another lady that afford ages, but she gave a speech as she was a Canadian while she still love, and she gave a speech about saving the plan. Ages ago ages ago, and she still of a cotton name snot told my brain. And I follow to- knocked on her chart, and her father was also an activist and stuff, and there's a limit to how much speeches and doing you couldn't do before you burn out a danger think Greta is in burnout yet. But if I were parents, I'd be keeping an eye on that. There's a limited amount of time that you can spend in the public high before life begins to lose its meaning now Emma Consol is is a young lady who was involved in the parklands shootings. She's one of the survivors. So his her NATO charters talk about hers, and again, so it was what she organized not herb have friends organized. That inspired. Greta. So what is it about? Emma, Emma's chart that might in some way brazen. Eight with Greta chart Nagwa quite mention Emma, don't get role. But it was greatest point was a lot of kids got together. And did something and marched, and she is of the opinion that children can do things. Just because you're young doesn't mean to say, you got no scent additive of things that was so annoying about the the March is in the McVay, peaceful ones that will last week a lot of commentators and prime minister even came out says about oh, you'd be better off being school and doing your study Ilias lie. Oh my God. If that'd be moment of July. It's like if you know all these world leaders went to school and didn't strike what the heck of a evidence. Stop it. So emigrants is how good a time of birth have a location to a particular city. We have the county which is Florida. So I use Tallahassee which I believe is the capitol using whole sign again. Because at the time Beth says, she sun sign Scorpio. Interestingly, Greta has her Venus a malls in school here because some nice little bit Finnity going on between the jobs. Emma has a son sign Scorpio Macri school Scorpio. She's got her car in very knitter. Pluto ch- implant Scorpio. I don't know where her moon is because we don't at the time if they her Muniz can be frozen. Some around is such a tears in a washy born very very early in the morning when the moon is conjuncture Pluto minutes way out Auburn too, many four degrees though at six AM. She's got malls. And Kappa cone, Greta has sun sign cap on. And she also has the s- Atta planet signature of indigo. She's Neptune and you innocent Aquarius the same as young has assassins, Oprah's different sign Sutton's in Taurus and Jupiter is in the sign of Aries. Now as a comparison chart, I thought I'd use the. Date of the speech, the Emma gave a few days off to the pot and shootings. So she made a speech a few days later on the seventeenth of February. So let's get the speech up. Got some teeth February last year. Zoom in and on the date of that speech that she made. And I think it's got the initials b s an bullshit Augusta's part of a key line that she put in there. The Mars is in the scientist such terrorists and Emma, possibly has moon in such terrorist. But this it'll synchronicity going on the Cas the sun is now in school peo-, her soil has some since COPA and Jupiter's in the sinus Scorpio. And moss is in such a terriers and unis is aspect ting her own Natal Chipita, this is only a few days later after event. I haven't done a chart for the event itself because this isn't relevant. What I'm talking about today that I'd be a totally different poke cost about the transit's four tragic happenings. This is about her speech, and how soon after she made a speech that that then there was an organization called March for life, and I'll share that chop because that was the March the happened that inspired Greta so the speech that Emma makes but again winter around the internet's and everybody seen and if you haven't put linked to it. The sun is in Aquarius and Merck is says as trigger. Off still unison Neptune. Since I am sans. Pluto's on her NATO, malls, and malls is pretty near her NATO Pluto's is of would beat described that there is a word for Astro your remember where many am you call? In is it cooled in. Moat come to madman. Secret malls in such terrace. A nightly Chagall Putin such terrace and then flew to his capital, and she's got NATO malls in Catholic own. So they're the having similar conversations going on the so Moss's by action question and g Pluto is about deep change in transformation. So the Pluto now if remember when Greta was inspired to a certain spot, Greta became ill when she was eleven Pluto his aspect in her moon. So when Emma makes her speech Pluto is aspect in her mouth Mazas by action question than she pleads spat deep change transformation. So she's pretty angry understandably in her speech angry and emotional, but she's speaking truth her truth, how effected her and old her friends now a little while later. So in March twenty fourth of March that's the date for the March for life. And this is the March that inspired Greta said, it's get the charts March for life. See in. Here we go. So we've got Emma's NATO planets on the inside. And the chance to implant is on outside nights any a month after her initial speech, but now Venus and mercury retrograde all aspects in her NATO Jupiter Unisys right smack bang on her NATO Jupiter. The sun is now in the sign of Aries Aries, actuation edgy seems mouse Pluto stood us baiting. Obviously a mouse. But Saturn Mars of shifted Mars is now in capital along with Sutton and Jupiter is still wet grading in the sign of Scorpio. And you know, I couldn't tell you whether or not she has go moon in such terrorism. Municaplities issues late in the day. The moon might have changed signs. I wouldn't too. Bet on it. What have means sign is? Anyway moss. Satin Pluto, a now all in the sauna cap corn. And that's why I have MAs is. So she obviously again gives a speech during that particular March and the March itself because for much to happen. You could have hold people wanting to do the same thing I've been on a coupla marches. And has to be something sort of that's collectively appeal and nobody speed. There's not much point having a March on the day when the the wettest dreadful because. Saint not she don't happen when the weather's dreadful, but it's more likely to put a certain amount of people off the moon. Now is in the sign of Jim and I- gymnasts by communication moon, Jim night's been to voice and understand emotions and be able to give voice to motions which very much that day successfully did. But this is the date as that that triggered something in Greta. So we've got moss is now in the Santa capital in young Greta is a Capricorn Emma Nataly has her own Moore's in capital. So I would have thought it was probably a month thing that would have been going on for Greta said, if to to be energize because Moses action aggression and energy, but you're more likely to act on something on the mall because malls, really isn't. A soft line about planet's not the Muniz moss is get out there and do it things. So I think in retinas case the action she seen witnessing what she's watching YouTube videos, mosses activating, her chart in some white. So that's a just a bit of information about Greta, and Emma and the two of them being the catalyst for a certain amount of. Glue ideas now and group. Activity in Emma's case. It's about a comptroller, don't shoot people and us an MS Cain. Hope acid- an MS case in greatest case. It's about that save the planet's where not doing the right thing. Now, no matter which way, you twist it both of these young ladies the. Speech that they've made and what they want a perfectly reasonable. When you start coming on with music Shuzo. Well, we come to this become too that become to the other than seventy ever gonna get done. And and as I said earlier, I I do feel that younger people now should be taken more seriously possibly than they have been. And also the generation mission talk about a lot of written a book about the storage even guys of interested. There is an e book on Amazon and on smush words that storage of tears. The India generation of one of the key things from the sitter just want to live. They want to live with meaning and purpose. Meaning and purpose are important and the outer planets conjunction in these people's cases of it being in Aquarius. Oh, you're innocent. It's natural home. I'm and neck tune isn't it's in Aquarius where it's not quite so happy is going to cause more of a group energy going forward. And the March is that just happened you can alive in your there's a few in America. But there was movies. Most evanger had put link. -ted at Macha show, you where the marches happened to where the activities going on the web activism is happening. That's very very much comes under the banner of Aquarius in that sister of a very much an Aquarius thing that Aquarius once freedom once t to save the planet is very eleventh house thing. Once everybody to have equal opportunities is not salon libra where everything needs to be balanced. Aquarius. Is that everybody's uniqueness can be expressed the individuality of the person in opposition to Leo, which is about me me me me me. Aquarius is about us. It's very much an us on even though you'll find plenty of Koreans that are happy to be on their own. They don't much us as a group, but as-as in the Joe thinking the same way as Mesa go classy sample of thought is. Always the author of the power of now echo. Totally is an Aquarius he's made a big movement. There's a big movement that he's organized, which is just about thinking differently would be lovely. If people did think slightly differently at popey, piano, less pain in the world. So we got tootle charts. They're to dockers Quinton to to charts of two young ladies, Greta and Emma, and the events that the of their speeches and the group activity, and in MS case that then inspired Greta to do her things with like a baton being passed. I mean, the lot different generations -cause, Greta is born in two thousand and three and Emma's born in nineteen nine so this voyage difference between them, but they're still part of that the just the lost bits of the indigo generation and they need to have a life with purpose. And I believe I would say both of them are very much living at the moment of the danger is because they young there's plenty of shocks out there. Hopefully, they don't get eaten by them. So I do hope you have a formula sweet. 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"And this was a real banner week for President Donald Trump he spent most of it denying buying any wrongdoing then released a White House record of himself doing something that looked quite wrong then he casually praised how in another time the people who complained about his wrongdoing might have been executed with all the whistleblowing and impeachment talk. It's easy to forget that the president also Oh made fun of a sixteen year old girl this week we are in the beginning of a mass extinction and all you can talk about is money and of each economic growth. How dare you responding to a tweet that contained a long clip clip of that speech. President trump seemingly locked tune burke. He tweeted the following. He said she seems like a very happy young girl looking forward to a bright and wonderful for future so nice to see the president did and it wasn't just him. Laura Ingraham at Fox News compared Greta Timberg two children of the corn. I can't wait for Stephen King. Sequel children of the climate and guests on another Fox News show just well but none none of that matters because the climate hysteria movement is not about science. If it were about science it would be led by scientists rather than by politicians and the mentally ill Swedish this child who is being exploited by parents and by the international so if you a person who doesn't make fun of children find yourself wondering what could make all of these grown people want to dunk on a kid David Wallace Wells has a theory. She is the most powerful teenager living on the planet today. David wrote about Glenda for a New York magazine where he's an editor. She's a Swedish teenager. She's sixteen years old last August. When she was is just fifteen. She decided to start a climate strike outside the Swedish parliament. I sit here every Friday. I am not a scientist. I don't have the proper education I'm only a messenger and in relatively short order became one of the the faces of a kind of exploding global movement of teens specifically but sort of young people more generally protesting in various sways the inaction of the global community of business people and Policy Leaders in combating what this generation Asian I think rightly sees as the existential challenge of climate change. How does this become her mission in life so early in life. Basically Greta came home from school having learned about climate change at the age the eight or nine they showed us films and pictures and I just I just thought it was very worrying. I was very scared of it. I I saw that it was very strange that there was such an existential threat that would send our existence and I'll civilization and yet that wasn't awesome first priority and starting at about age eleven. Greta fell into a deep depression. I stopped talking and I stopped eating in two months. I lost about ten kilos weight later on. I was diagnosed with aspects of syndrome mm-hmm. OCD selective news and a family friend who I spoke to a few weeks ago told me that her father who is a sort of close. The presence in her life nursed her back to health the person said one Yuki at a time so that was just a few years ago I mean but it was a period of time that was was protracted enough that it actually at least according to Greta had a meaningful impact on her physical health. I mean one of the things that really makes her. Stand out is that while she is sixteen she actually looks quite a bit younger than that and I think that's one of the keys to her power a rhetorical powers that she's speaking with the wisdom of an informed teenager but sort of through the figure of a wise child that makes him different that makes you think differently and especially in such a big crisis like this when we need to think outside the folks we need to think outside our current system they we need people who think outside the box and who aren't like everyone else she basically wasn't an real activist until last August when she started school strike in in Stockholm and at the time you know she was fifteen. She basically didn't have any friends. She was unhappy. She felt socially isolated uncomfortable around other people and it really was a kind kind of crusade that she was launching the kind of thing that you know occasionally you see on social media somebody making a kind of noble protests but you don't necessarily assume that it's going going to amount to much and this really took off in. December she was giving a speech at a UN climate climate conference that sort of went especially viral the year two thousand and seventy eight. I will celebrate my seventy fifth birthday. If I have children maybe they will spend the day with me. Maybe they will ask me about you. Maybe they will ask why you didn't do anything while there still was time to act you say you love your children above all else and yet you're stealing their their future in front of their very is until you start focusing on what needs to be done rather than what is politically logistically possible there is no hope and by March she had led a global climate strike in which about one and a half million people marched in the streets around the world everywhere from Africa to Asia to the US and all throughout Europe. She just turned sixteen of course she wasn't done. She continued attended speaking. She gave a series of speeches she gave one notable one at Davos but her profile seem to like move up an additional notch beyond just the a person who had inspired a global school strike numbering in the millions when she announced that she would be coming to this. UN Summit in New York and that she would be doing so by boat. I might feel seasick and it's not going to be comfortable but that I can live with and if it's really hard I just have to think thank me for two weeks. Then I can go back to as usual showed people on the left that some of these choices that we thought were impossible to make where or at least for some people like her possible to make that one could travel across the Atlantic without imposing a carbon footprint on the world it also really irritated people on the right who who took it as a kind of trolling and took that as the opportunity to really cut into her none of the other moments in her trajectory really produced much pushback and the boat trip really changed that and made her kind of lightning rod for both sides of the of the issue and I think that's ultimately only elevated her stature more. I think she is being manipulated. I think she's been exploited. I think she's being pushed to the forefront of a very misanthropic depressing form of the politics of fear. I think that's bad for her because we know that she is rather mentally franchise a child y'all go and I think it's bad for political debate because the end result is that anyone raises any criticisms of this campaign is shouted routed down as someone who hates children and who hates Greta them book. It's become one of the themes of this conversation that she is being stage managed by people around her in general my experience with those people has been there just protective over her because she's quite fragile. She's uncomfortable in crowds. She is not really happy being the center of attention in general and and while she feels that there's sort of an urgent need to continue speaking. It's not easy for her and again. She's just a teenager. I think it's easy to look at a teenager who struck a chord it and like the march for our lives comes to mind as well and say like Oh these kids are smart and he speaks truth to power and they're good social media and they built an audience but it sounds sounds like that's not quite the case with Greta is it is it just her words and her image that so struck a chord with the entire planet in it or is it some sort of greater social media savvy and media prowess or something like that well. She actually was inspired by the Parkland kids. That's why she went out on strike for the first time so there is a kind of a continuity there it started with a couple of us in the United States and Hughes to go to school because fiscal shootings and then someone I knew said what if silver did that before. I also do think that she is pretty savvy. On Social Media I think almost anyone as a teenager now is but she wrote a series of posts about her own disabilities and the way that they were being used to target her among right wing critics that was also. I think quite powerful but in general I think that those factors are less central to understanding exactly what's happening here. Then the simple fact that at the science of climate change is terrifying and there are those people who are sort of activists and advocates who take that science nine seriously and talk about it in urgent honest terms but they're also they're activists and so to the world. They seem like you know maybe a little hysterical Americal. Maybe a little alarmist. Greta is so cool. Why are we not reducing our emissions. Why are they in fact still increasing our we knowingly causing mass extension. Are We evil. No of course not people keep doing what they do because the vast majority doesn't have a clue about the actual the consequences of our everyday life her affect is always so flat and direct that it really does seem like she's just presenting doing the incredibly harrowing facts of the matter to the public and I think there's something powerful about that. I think that that is the scale of the the crisis that we're facing and just being direct about. It is incredibly eye. Opening does Greta any policy proposals. Did she endorse any particular ideas that the UN this week I think for the most part she's done incredibly savvy. Job Of avoiding making particular policy asks you know in the climate world once you get into particular agendas or particular programs. They're always going to be some people who have objections. Do you think you're being unreasonable. I think you're focusing on the wrong thing. At the moment you know two big areas of disagreement on the climate world are about the fate of nuclear power and of of what's called carbon capture technology which could allow us to take carbon out of the atmosphere but which activists see as sort of moral hazard because it'll encourage fossil fuel businesses to keep operating you know she hasn't taken a position on those things exactly. She's made some gestures about them but in general just saying very clearly I read the the science. The science says the world is about to change very dramatically. If we don't change course very dramatically the sign says we need to do that immediately and the science says that something like all of civilization is at stake if we don't and I look at the world and I see nobody acting as though that's the case and I'm confused and I'm frustrated and I'm angry and I want you to know what I know about the scale of the crisis because I can't understand if you did understand it how you would be doing anything but what I'm doing which is devoting my entire life to this challenge Enj- David. You've met with Greta you talk to her in person. I wonder how is she handling all of this insane attention for her voyage across the Atlantic Meeting Barack Obama you know going to the UN to be the sort of marquee speaker of this climate summit how how does that weigh on a sixteen year old like her. I mean it seems to me like she's tired and it's been a really crazy couple of weeks for her. I think she feels gratified. That all of these people are out with her sort of in speaking in unison about the urgency of crisis but I don't think it's something that she relishes in the one on one interview. I think it was easier for her to kind of focus and have a direct exchange that sort of impression I had of her then was that she was the most teenager like that. I've seen her are in any context. She was self deprecating. She made a few cracks about other people in the room and that kind of thing which is not something I've seen from her in any public look statements but I think that you see the speech that she gave at the UN during the climate summit someone who is a bit being pushed to sort of breaking point. I mean for the first time she was speaking in much more heated tones much more emotionally. I shouldn't be up here. I should be back in school on on the other side of the ocean yet. You all come to US young people for hope. How dare you you have stolen stolen my dreams in my childhood with your empty words yet. I'm one of the ones people are suffering. Think people are dying entire ecosystems collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass extinction and so you can talk about money and fairy tales of economic growth. She's up there. I mean really with some of the most powerful people in the world to have invited her into the sanctum to talk talk to them about how they're doing and she's basically Christmas and saying don't patronize me with your compliments forgiving. You Hope in a minute. What did they do. This is today explained yesterday. 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It does not always have a climate summit and this was kind of a special occasion. It was preceded last week by some of the largest environmental protests we've ever seen these school strikes led by young people from all over the world then on Monday the UN secretary general enroll Antonio Gutierrez convened the Climate Action Summit and function of that is in the name. He specifically said this is not a summit for discussion. This is not for flowery speeches speeches. This is where we want countries to come to the table with definite plans to fight climate change and it turns out that a lot of countries are behind on some of their existing plans did great it does speech or any of those protests inspire countries to take this more seriously we did hear leaders acknowledged. Greta or directly or indirectly the French President Emmanuel Macron talked about the youth activism that had helped inspire the summit but a lot of countries had already decided what they were going to bring to the table ahead ahead of time in the Secretary General Antonio Guiterrez said at the outside of the summit. He's only leading countries speak if they're promising significant action and would deny the microphone phoned anybody who really didn't have anything new to bring to the table so everybody who did speak committed to something new or announced some new partnerships are new deployments of Green Energy Eh or committed to getting rid of coal but a lot of the commitments came from many of the smaller countries and the biggest greenhouse gas meters in the world didn't he didn't really move that much in terms of reducing their own emissions. Who are we talking about outside the United States. I assume well the three largest greenhouse gas meters in the world are in order China. The United States and India now Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi did speak and he announced that India was going to drastically ramp up its renewable energy deployment cement but he didn't commit to phasing out coal or reducing fossil fuel use and similarly the Chinese representative who spoke also talked about China's deployment may have clean energy and increasing its forested area and some of its conservation tactics but he also didn't commit to reducing greenhouse gas emissions now greenhouse gas emissions emissions are rising in all three countries in the United States China and India and if we have any hope of fighting climate change limiting warming to less than two degrees Celsius the target that was laid out in the Paris Agreement. We need all three of these countries to make drastic cuts and so far we have yet to see those cuts happening so you're saying that the commitments that have come out of this climate. Its Summit are essentially insignificant. I wouldn't say insignificant part of the reason calling summit was sort of to highlight the people that are ahead of the curve serve in order to sort of shame prod the people that are behind the curve and that might be a function that we're going to see later in the coming weeks and months that countries who didn't get to speak. Maybe a little bit more motivated now to do more but we saw that some of the countries that did ramp up their commitments under the Paris Agreement. There was about seventy of them now who have agreed to come forward with more ambitious plans to fight climate change together though they only account for about seven percent of global greenhouse gas emissions so so while they are planning to do more in terms of the overall climate change picture they aren't doing enough is this why these kids got together and filed a lawsuit suit against the UN what exactly happened there well a group of activists including Greta twinbrook filed a complaint with the United Nations Committee on the rights of child child and essentially arguing that their rights as children have been violated by countries that are contributing to climate change and they named several countries complaint as the particular actors. They want targeted and they want to remedy from them now. This is in a lawsuit because it's not filed in court but this is a tactic for them to sort of pressure these countries even more aggressively to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions and they singled out Argentina Brazil France Germany and Turkey. Why just if these five if you look at this list of countries you'll realize that they're not necessarily the largest greenhouse gas emitters in the world however these are major economies and they also have a high public profile and they're sort of a strategic decision among these activists that they want to name and shame these high profile countries and they think that they can sway them by calling them on the Mat for their actions or lack thereof on limiting greenhouse gas emissions does it feel a glitter kind of has a point that having a bunch of kids come to the UN climate summit and shame Argentina and Brazil and France and Germany and Turkey he like she shouldn't have to do this. They should be doing it themselves and it doesn't sound like there was a big commitment from anyone really to do all that much. At this climate summit like does the whole thing feel kind of futile. I wouldn't say it's futile but it is disappointing that this summit was convened to get countries to do more and very few of the biggest emitters vowed to do so I mean they did promise to fund more international climate initiatives. Some countries did commit commit to deploy more clean energy but ultimately the top line number is that they have to reduce. Co Two emissions and the biggest contributors to those emissions are are not making the big cuts that are necessary oftentimes. It's the smallest contributors to the emissions the small island nations that are vulnerable to sea level rise. They're the ones making some some of the loudest and most aggressive commitments to reducing greenhouse gas emissions but not the larger economies and that's just been a constant source of disappointment here and I guess I'm not putting it on the kids to come up with the solutions but do you think anything changed as a result of all of the action that they inspired. I think there are some changes. Some countries are taking it a little bit more seriously. I would highlight the United Kingdom earlier this year they committed to going to net zero emissions by twenty anti fifty and it's one of the largest economies in the world to do so and they're not a country that's particularly sunny or windy and they use a lot of fossil energy right now so they're actually making a pretty big transition. This is one of the most aggressive transitions towards clean energy in the world and it's pretty significant to see a major economy stick to such a large commitment now. UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson also came to the climate summit and announced that the United Kingdom is going to double its funding for international climate programs programs of this these are programs that help developing countries adapt to climate change and also limit their own greenhouse gas emissions so the UK has kind of stepped up in a way that very a few other major economies have done so and I think it's worth highlighting that effort so I guess while the rest of the world waits for India and China in the United States these he's big three carbon emitting to do something. What did these kids going to do next. Do you have any idea well I talked to a few of them at the climate strike and many of them told me that this was their first protest it was their first brush with activism but also vowed that it wouldn't be their last they're going to their local city councils counsels and state leaders and telling them that they want bills and commitments to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Many of them are also involved in climate justice acts to ensure that impoverished average communities or communities of color those that have been historically neglected and marginalized are also getting a share of the benefits of climate mitigation and aren't being overlooked with some the impacts that are occurring like heat and extreme weather so these kids are definitely going to keep up but the question is now whether the grownups will respond to that with anything more meaningful than what we've seen so far mayor Irvan. Thank you so much for speaking to us from pond on the lawn of the United Nations headquarters in Manhattan. Thank you for having me Sean. Mayor Irvan writes about climate change for Vox David Wallace. Wells writes about climate change to you heard from him in the first half of the show. He's got a book called the uninhabitable habitable Earth Life after warming. It's out now. I'm Sean Rama's firm. This is today explained the show's also made by Ana Assadi Bridge McCarthy Halima Shaw aw and Noam Hassenfeld Irene Noguchi is the executive producer of Fem- Shapiro's the engineer and we rock music from the mysterious brake master cylinder. 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Yeah Yeah but you know it's it seems like a facetime and we talk and they're like how is being there like hot horrible and they're talking like it's something that is happening here so they're like so sorry for you guys and I am very sorry because I feel like it's going to happen to you too probably Greta father-in-law. He's still playing hockey three times a week unless she checked. Her mother-in-law was still going to the grocery store. But I did the same thing ca till the two weeks ago I went. That was the last time and went out on my gate. Do you feel a little crazy on. Those phone calls can be socially awkward to be the person who's like listen pay attention. You have to pay attention to this. I feel like some I have. I had the feeling with few people I talked with of American people American friends at the beginning of I felt like I was say uprooting for America like I felt like it was like a curse curse curse like like yes it's path Greta says when she dials up the United States. She feels like the wicked witch fairytale arriving to Curson innocent baby or a young princess. She knows what's coming and it is in good. Yeah exactly exactly. I felt like that in a certain way deaths from this corona virus have been surging in Italy especially up north. Were Greta lives. Thousands are in intensive care the health system is overrun and Greta. She can see the beginnings of this same kind of strain when she talks to her American friends. I talked to the mother of a friend of mine in Michigan. She works for us with only Michigan. And she's a physician she doesn't She said we don't have masks. We don't have so to the same story everywhere sometimes. I felt like a little bit because I'm like how could you not think that? How did you think you were invincible? Do you think the virus was in a different way in America or in other country. But then I stop and say that's the same in China so so I understand that thought today on the show life under lockdown. I've been living like this for four days Greta. She's been living this way for four weeks. I'm Mary Harris. You're listening to what next stick with us. I'm sitting here in New York and I feel like you are my future. Yeah exactly I'm you in ten days maybe more two weeks. Greta privitera learn more about this corona virus outbreak each day but it's not abstract learning anymore like a week ago. I knew people that knew people were sick now in people that died. They you can hear ambulances or the time now. Yeah it's hard literally literally like just like day and night. Yeah imbed Gumma. Which is the city near Milan? It's really nice CD actually. But it's very hit by the corona virus and the ambulance. You could hear ambulances during nine days and they stop the sound of the ambulances are the Syrian the siren. Do you have a siren? The sound they may. Yeah exactly they stay. Stop it because people were freaking out. So they're not using it anymore. They're not using the sirens. No no because they don't need them because no one's on the streets and you know it's scary because there it's your neighbor. It's the street next to you. It's the place where you used to mention. It's the people you know these. These cities very hit by corona virus. There's like too many people. There are dying there so. Tell me a little bit about how you're living now. You have two little kids. Do you live in an apartment a house. We are lucky because we live in a really old villa backyard. So that's very very good now. This week is the fourth week that we the kids are home from school with four week that we're working from home both and we were freaking out. It's very hard to work and have the young kids that always want something or need something or they are bored or they're hungry or they fight and you have an article to sand or you have a phone call so it's very intense so we are dividing are the. I work in the morning. My husband tried to work in the afternoon and very often late night. Then we try to entertain the kids and we cook a lot everything we can cook. We Cook the kids. I feel like I have a two years old daughter and she's fine even today. She looked in my eyes and sell mom. I want to go in the car. Because she doesn't know to say let's get out of the gate like like she wants to say something like saying. Let's do somethin'. It is different the other my my daughter. She's six. She's a very sensitive and even if I we sure all the veal's about virus. Do you know the videos made for kids to explain the situation. We talked like a if it was AK- something not like so scary but she can feel the fear we we've we are experiencing two lines ago. She woke up and she screamed and she was cared she said I dreamt corona virus and the kid was holding the corona virus on his hand and attached to you. And you got sick and you're like no. It's okay but she was crying and now it's fine and sometimes you're saying which is kind of crazy. She's playing with whatever dolls and she says. Go Away Corona virus. Go Away and go. Oh cool year just experienced trauma year saw my gosh. What's what's your procedure for. Just the basics like getting groceries. Can you leave like stringent lockdown? Actually we try to do online shopping but the problem is that Amazon prime is. I've been really really lot of problems. So if you do the grocery shopping. Let's say today you can add food. Maybe in four days. If you lucky so yesterday my husband went grocery shopping and the Globes on mask glasses and then we clean all the packages. Because that's another thing they say to We clean all the packages. Yeah because the new study say De Corona virus. Stay on plastic for hours and not worse so we try to clean a little bit not clean. You know we. We took a paper towel and we put alcohol on it and try to clean it. That's how we deal with life right now and It's kind of depressing sometimes very depressing like I. I will say I receive a coal a day or a friend that say I'm very depressed. It's funny you say that because I feel like here in the US. There's been that video going around of everyone singing. Yeah yeah that's the thing that because we don't know if you've ever been in Italy but it's really say out-going country and if you live in a big building with balconies the balconies the way you talk with people so there's the people that decided to do this. Say Flash mobs where everyone at six. Pm. They all go out and sing the song or dance or try to those people that just playing instruments which is cool which is cool but for example in bamboo city. I was talking to you before I talk to a girl yesterday. That said the father died in a few days ago and she told me if I hear somebody singing from balcony I will go to their house and punch them because if there's one thing I don't WanNa hear people singing now so at this. She said that in Bergamo. Nobody's doing this because the there's too many people are dying. I WanNa talk a little bit about what happens when people get sick. When people get sick they come and pick you up and take it. Does you know I feel like if you go now. It's a it's like going to hell and the problem. Is that if you end up in intensive care or in Sob- intensive care you're not you're not GonNa talk to your family anymore. Probably the have a helmet. We'd oxygen on on their head and so they're not able to speak on the phone and sounds like a spacesuit. Yeah exactly. It looks like that if you google it you can see it so it's the stab before intensive care a year. Lots of stories of doctors that tried to help The patient when they're so sad like rather started there's was these old woman Old Lady that she felt like she was dying so share the helmet on. She has to Dr Pepper and she wanted to say goodbye to her granddaughter. And the doctor facetime the granddaughter. And the Lord Lady Say Goodbye. After a few hours she died and that's not like a regional story. There's too many story like that doctors. Hard link between the families and the patient. And so if you're lucky enough to have a good one. That is very sensitive. They you're gonNA use facetime or skype or whatever to up you say goodbye or at least to say hi to your parents to your family. So you're saying like the good outcome is the doctor. Brings you a phone to face time with your family? If you're lucky enough and then you die alone you very long. That's another thing. Lake solitude of this. This virus creates a lot of solid create solid. Our families create sorta in the patient than doctors. Because they're too busy they. They say we don't even talk to each other like we are like our massacre Globes. Gone the the suit that they wear and we are just working working working. We don't L. and most of them they don't even go back home. They start because they're scared to be infected and to pass infection to the family so this virus has lots of the width solitude. Maybe we'll learn something from this. You say you've known people who died of Corona virus. Yeah what happens then began. Then there's this other series of Hell and because you die alone and then you will stay there. Sometimes they take. You cannot have a funeral now because you cannot have more than two people together so there's lots of body in the churches and in the cemetery waiting for the funeral and I heard horrible stories about other city. It's Naples which is in the south of attorney and coronavirus viruses. Not Bad as it easier and I heard. The story of guide did a video on facebook because his sister died from corona virus in suspected corona virus and the funeral home. Didn't want to pick her up because they were unprepared. The initial Rana virus and the right instruments to treat the body and so they stayed with the body of the sister for hours. Maybe more than a day at home and on facebook and you could see the body of the so. I didn't watch the video because I didn't WanNa see that and Asking for help saying we don't know what to do. We're going crazy The situation is and so at the end because of the because of the news There was a funeral home to help them I feel like part of the reason we wanted to speak to. You is because you're like this messenger from the future and I wonder if you had to call yourself up like back in time before this happened before you were in lockdown. What would you tell yourself about what's about to happen? Yeah I would say dear Greta. Please stay home. Please give up. Your little. Needs like Going out for a Cappuccino or coffee in the morning. Give up as soon as you can going out with friends because if you want your life back again as he's now you need to up now some beavers and some e e up to you have to be careful because it's going to happen like the virus B. as in in Italy as in China France in other country so we have to give up our freedom and a bit because we want they will be so sad because our fathers over friends will die before our neighbor will die and we cannot stop that the only thing we can do to help the doctors to outpatient is staying home. It's life saving life Greta. Privitera thank you so much for joining me. Thanks for Evian thank you. So much for sharing are sorry. Greta Privitera is journalist. Living in Italy. You can follow her on twitter at Greta Pre patera and that's the show keep calling and leaving messages about how you're coping during this really strange time. Are you going to work? Have you lost a job? Are you one of the retired healthcare workers who has been asked to come back and help at your old hospital? Tell me a call at two. Oh two eight eight eight two five eight eight. You can also tweet at me at Mary's desk. I asked Greta how she's coping stuck indoors with a couple kids talking with friends his helping and low so facetime is helping and and taking a shower is Kaz too. I feel so like Simpatico with you. That's totally my shower is like an like. I have to take a shower now. No one can come in here exactly but do you not late. For example Saturday took a shower. And those okay. That's my time no kits. Nobody so comes the first one and she's already kid. She jumped in the shower me. I'm like now why that was my shower. Then she left the door of the shower open and the dog came inside our shower in. She loves water so we had the hung in the shower. The other one the psycho that safari and she was really naked through came to mytalkers so the kids and the dog so this is the worst of the week. Who was my best time? This show is produced by Mary. Wilson Morris Silvers Jason De Leon and Daniel Hewitt this week we had some extra help from Allison Benedikt and Susan Matthews. I'm Mary Harris. I'll be back in your feed on Monday. Stay healthy
The Power of Greta Thunberg
"Hi I'm Mike PESCA. I'm the host of the just and this right here. This is the first ad you're about to hear on the just from Connecticut to California Mississippi to Minnesota millions of American businesses. We're using google tools to grow online. The grow with Google Initiative supports small businesses by providing free digital skills workshops and one on on one coaching in all fifty states helping businesses get online connect with new customers and work more productively learn more at Google dot com slash grow. That's google dot com slash grow. The following recording may contain explicit language. I can't get more explicit than may say it may It's Thursday September twenty six two thousand nineteen from slate. It's the gist I might ask. When the president of the United States offers his meandering adult untruthful defense of his misbehavior. The news media has traditionally said well it might be deceitful confusing propagandistic lies but it is from the president of the United States but not yesterday. NBC turned it off explaining yeah we do this really but the president is telling the truth these allegations against Joe Biden and hunter mine. He's repeating have been investigated by the Ukrainian on the Wall Street. Journal included in their report on Friday. The Ukrainians view this issue having been investigated in adjudicate and what's amazing is that what appears to be trying to do is to turn his own impeachment into a big deflection that is what he was doing yet et by not covering the lies and deceit in strange implausible utterances of the president. NBC was denying their viewers. The fact that the president is lying and deceit fall and implausible apparently they think the president well president specifically should be covered something like a car chase or a hostage standoff off you put on a seven or fourteen second delay in this way you could bail out the moment before it gets too gruesome but like most high speed car chases on TV. There is is another alternative. You're ready. Don't feel compelled to go live at all but you should be paying attention because he can and will say something strange range which might either be newsworthy or just yet another insight into that oatmeal brain of his so yesterday at the United Nations and I went and watched the whole thing he he gave a defense. If you WANNA call it that gigantic lie if you want to call it that of his behavior during the whole Ukraine affair and at one point joint the woebegone president said this so many leaders came up to me today and they said Sir what you go through a No president has ever gone through and it's so bad for your country okay press conference. UN At other times in the press conference talking about meetings he had with heads of state so when he said leaders I assumed and he meant world leaders the why would a world leader call another President Sir. That doesn't scan anyway maybe because they weren't world leaders. Maybe maybe the kind of leaders he had in mind to our talk radio leaders but it's so bad for our country people have said had rush limbaugh great man. Sean Hannity said it a lot of people said it Mark Levin and because the networks bailed out we he missed that Donald Trump's endorsement by Mark Levin who knows what in Culpa Tori or inane thing he will admit you next so I've got to ask are the networks by playing his speech is giving him a platform or is it more of a scaffold on the show today it is a full analysis of the director of the denies appearance before Congress. It was notable. There was a tone of how dare you there was an answer. It's rough. I was just doing what I thought was right and I do think when this whole thing plays out over the next months or years today will be the kind of day that move the ball but won't be remembered but I I want to get into the nitty gritty in fine detail and that'll be on the spiel but I you probably saw or at least heard news of Greta Tonsberg the Swedish I girl who spoke at the United Nations fire much like the Amazon she was slash and burn like the form of agriculture currently consuming Borneo and Sumatra. I find and Greta compelling. My son told me that during the school walkout he went and saw Greta. I said Greta first name basis sit Greta. I think our communication in style tells us something about the moment wherein it's not exactly sure what so I asked Katy Lederer who has written about Greta Tonsberg and her critics as for the Journal n Plus One Katie joins me next okay from Connecticut to California from Mississippi to Minnesota. 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That's Google dot com slash grope her Greta Tonsberg who is the sixteen year old Swedish Swedish child who spoke to the UN spoke nice she kinda yelled at the UN but you know what they deserved it if you think of the UN as the collective will of the nations and leaders of the world on on the show in the past. I've likened her to an Old Testament Prophet. She's actually strains of the Bible. She's both Jeremiah and the children's Crusade. I've been thinking a lot about her. So has everyone that's the extent that she's arrested the conversation and joining me now is Katie letter writes about the environment and other issues as a columnist for and plus one but Katie sits at these great cross-currents of literature and environmentalism and parenting and taught a course of Columbia about the literature of environmentalism and she's written about Greta. Thanks for coming in Katie. Thank you so much for having me. Have you have had you seen. Greta talk in that way before because I know you've been following her career meteoric rise. Thou is definitely the most angry I've seen her. I was trying to figure that out because when I watched the speech initially I was a little bit shocked. I am a fan of her delivery it was a little intense but I have to say I kept watching the speeches teaches that followed and as I said on on twitter she kinda poured acid on those speeches and much like an industrial polluter might mike well it. Did it did what I think she wanted it to do. That kind of came around so is that I mean. You can't look away. There's something about this compelling extremely well-spoken extremely passionate girl saying these things embodying the cost of our environmental told decline. Are there any risks I mean. I've been reading some people. I don't know if they are of goodwill but they think they're making fair point saying if she becomes the face of the movement the movement movement could be in fact harming itself. She's so scorched earth. I feel like what Greta turned. Berg kind of gets at is that we have been for thirty years. Intelligent people have been discussing. I mean their entire think-tanks around how to communicate about climate change right and there's going to be an official role or a group using every mode so you know extinction rebellion is more than maybe what she you know that tone that she has but you have like NRDC. Doing we know more friendly tone. Yes worked and when I spoke to Al Gore. He said you know the key. Is You gotta give people hope that's how that's how his the second iteration in of the documentary and it's all about hope and there's a lot of research and scholarship hopes really important without hope you're not. GonNa Change and then she says in the speech I should like in school on the other side of the ocean yet. You all come to US young people for hope. How dare you will so oh. I feel like the I don't WanNa say charm. That's not quite the right word but the effectiveness of her one whatever's been done has not worked worked for thirty years okay so that's like a starting point. She's trying whatever she's trying. She's trying what she's comfortable with. You know she went out there in front of Swedish parliament on on her own and her and held her sign communicated the way she communicates for whatever reason right that has incredibly ignited ignited so it's sort of a chicken egg thing yes maybe for some people hope is the way maybe for some people pessimism is the way maybe for some people like honesty or what they see as honesty is the way but for whatever reason her way which I like she just started with her way galvanized a very large group of people did you see the piece of video that went viral of her standing there in the UN and then Donald Trump walks by my theory is this is entirely a Rohrschack test because she had this stern look on her face and then the camera moves so let's examine the the syntax of that video moment through camera moves we see trump but again. I think she looks like that all the time and if anyone in the world had walked in the frame she'd still look like that its interests since I was a little unsure how to feel about that viral clip because I think this is not hopefully a political comment per se but it seems like our president enjoys the spotlight. It felt like he was getting in on that a little bit. I'm sure I assume he didn't do that on purpose but president used to be on reality. TV show it concerns me when the framing is a feud when he's in right so obviously it gave her more exposure but I was a little uneasy. I think that if you cut that video with different kinds of music like if you put the curb your enthusiasm theme to it wouldn't mean something bad. If you put the extra system to it. It would mean something else yeah I wasn't. I'm still not sure we'll see you back to the idea of hope kate man and I hope I'm pronouncing her name right. Who is a writer and philosopher at Cornell L. wrote about the the. How dare had their you ask us for hope? She said giving hope whatever the grim truth of the matter is is a feminine coded. Sue obligation that is far too seldom questioned good for Greta ton. Berg as usual for resisting and my comment was she resisting it or does do social niceties just not occur to her that I say the ladder She's welcome to interpret Br dot under her rubric or any of US but yeah. I don't think she's I mean she might be. I don't know you know who am I to say but you know I definitely definitely I don't necessarily push back. Maybe except for the viral clip with the feud with President trump. She's out there in the public sphere so if people wanna read things into her or sort of platform her fine personally. I'm just like just don't personalize it in a way that's toxic right or abusive right in good faith. I agree with that and not only in this instance this but as a guiding principle for all interactions you said and also I do think that there is something to her appeal. That is if you you want interpreted this way you can if you can't. She is not an empty vessel because she has a lot of facts and she presents well but she does offer people the opportunity to do do that because the clarity of the message is not a lot of other things to get caught up in maybe with there. Is You know she's a politician got to be working. A bunch of different angles so credit is this very clear voice says this very clear thing and doesn't really go outside that clear thing like you said she doesn't even plans. He doesn't endorse politicians so she becomes he comes a little bit of a Rohrschack test or something that you could put your own interpretations into and it's useful. I think probably yeah I mean I think in the activists community Munity the advocacy community the media community particularly you know in this era. A lot depends on your theory of change. How how do you think society changes right and again. I think she's a catalyst for a certain kind of change or a certain group of people and what I appreciate about her as maybe a little bit of a wonky cash climate person. Is that message you know. She says the main solution however over is so simple that even a small child can understand it. We have to stop the emissions of greenhouse gases. She just sort of gets to the basics over and over very basic basic obviously off. Also a presentation is very basic so whoever she galvanizes Godspeed and I don't know how much there's a counter government is. I don't know how much she galvanizes. People who don't want to reduce emission who have some vested interest and the status quo that might not be so great long term. I don't know so there's always that consideration. Would you think the most compelling theory of changes. Oh that's I mean the jury is out and I get very confused to be honest. I look like the green new deal is confused. Yeah what's very confusing to me. I read this Paul Krugman up he called it a Christmas tree and talking about how politically it to me it sort of a heart the green new deal again. It's salient I certain group of people it uses the key words that row them up. It has proposals that certain people are really into and it works for them again again. I always wonder does that. Create a counter a fact counter galvanisation personally. You know if I were I would not be probably a good politician because I don't. I'm not so good at that kind of Christmas tree theory of change. That's kind of this big speech. You know exciting slogans and again not to denigrate for some people that really works for some people. That's their skill and talent so I don't see I think about it a lot. I don't know what really works. Sometimes it might just be something really horrible like a war yeah the horrible environmental degradation yeah. I mean personally I've looked at some of the proposals either in or associated associated with the green new deal and just my training as journalists and the way I navigate the world I say that's none of the experts say that's going to be possible and so it makes me a little suspicious resentful of the way some people would say it's overton window opens that would say I personally reject that theory of change does does that theory of change work for other people people who advocate for the overton window or the people who really most often want the most extreme policies right it happens to fit in exactly exactly with what they want right there so then they have the fallback plan. Look I want us to totally one hundred percent eliminate. Go Two net zero emissions by twenty thirty the green a new deal doesn't have that level of realism's makes me question it someone who's who buys into the OVERTON window theory of change. We'll say well. What's the problem. The worst case scenario is we. We try to do it and almost get there. I don't know I think the question their credibility and be I worry that might that might turn people off who'd otherwise be on board and then a lot of the other programs which understand their point if we don't have if if if green jobs aren't at good wages it's not gonna work as well as if they are and you say okay so instead of one big ask on the environment now you're asking for a big ask on the environment and for unions and for housing. It gets harder to pass yeah. I mean it's tough. I you know obviously geniuses think about this all day long like Nobel winners think about this all day long you know and I feel like I'll try to look at it with credit dern. Berg as land you know look at some of these theories to try to figure out my interpretation of what she's doing that even that's very personal so katy lederer writes about climate and other things for an plus one. She writes for The New York Times shreds for herself. She writes for Humanity Katie coming in. Thank you so much. Um I do so love my cats. Let me tell you a little bit about them Oliver. He he's definitely going to be the one to protect us from the Squirrel Squirrel outside when the squirrel shows up near a window that guy he's got his hackles raised and he's ready to fight. Thank you Oliver downside when he's hungry. He'll jump on your face. Layla Halon the other hand. She's great with the licking of the face. Lots licking face I did. That's both a good thing and a bad thing. Yeah looks both ways but there is one thing about the cats. I don't love so much. It's the litter box which is why arm and hammer created new cloud control litter. There is no cloud out of nasty is when you scoop it is one hundred percent dust free free of heavy perfumes and helped reduce airborne gander from scooping so what happens in the litterbox litterbox stays in the litterbox new cloud control cat litter by Armand Hammer more power to you now the deal. Have you ever been whistle blown. I haven't but I can imagine it's uncomfortable. It's not only a complaint or a critique. It's a secret complaint and a secret complaint. Were the complainer has many protections of Law Freeman. A patient calm person to be secretly complained about by a person with protections of law must be very frustrating. Our president is no calm person. He wakes up frustrated. He works himself into a lather over. SNL sketches catches for our president. The term fits of Pique implies that he ever has sustained periods of non peak. This guy is constantly at peak peak. Why Donald Trump said of the whistle blower in a private meeting with donors is reported by the L. A. Times quote. I want to know who's the person who's the person who gave the whistle blower the information because that's close to a spy he continued. You know what we used to do. In the old days when we were smart smart right the spies and treason we used to handle it a little differently than we do now okay so that's perhaps an extreme version of frustration and strongly implying that you would like to kill your critics. It really does make you wonder maybe there's something to the idea that he is a two bit Mafia don. Oh that's a little unfair fair to mafia dons because Mafia dons follow the code of Omerta also mafia dons usually make money off their gambling operations additionally would a don higher not a wartime consigliere or peacetime council Yari but Rudy Giuliani sort of an airtime console Jerry Rudy Giuliani railed twin Atlantic reporter today quote. It is impossible. That's a whistle blower as a hero and I'm not and I will be the hero these morons when this is over. I will be the hero he went on. I'm not acting as a lawyer acting as someone who has devoted most of his life to straightening out government anything I did should be praised. The questioning by the House Intelligence Committee of Acting Director of National Intelligence Joe McGuire wasn't quite so intense that Giuliani quote but many of the Democratic members of the committee did treat McGuire as is at best a foot-dragger at worst and a complex or lackey and someone who got in the way of these swift and regular process of informing Congress Congress without first having the Attorney General in the intelligence community inspector-general sign off Maguire's struck me as an honest civil servant who tried to do what he he thought was right. Which is why totally I thought Republican Representative Chris Stewart raised a fair point and I will say to my colleague standing here. I think you're nuts if you think you're going to convince the American people the your causes just by attacking this man and by an impugning his character win. It's clear the chief felt. There's a discrepancy potential deficiency in the law. He was trying to do the right thing. He felt compelled by the lie to to do exactly what he did and yet the entire tone here is somehow you're a political stooge who has done nothing but try to protect the president and I just think that's nuts however I do have to say on substance the chairman of the Intel Committee Adam Schiff certainly right. No one has accused you of being a political stooge or dishonorable is honorable. No one has said so what has suggested that you've declared it is it is it is certainly our strong view when we would hope it would be shared by the minority that when the Congress says that something shall be done it shall be done and when that involves the wrongdoing of the president isn't it is not an exception to the requirement of the statute and the fact that this whistle blower has been left twisting in the wind now for weeks has been attacked by the president should concern turn all of US Democrats and Republicans. The acting inspector general was mostly forthright. He did say a few things that were off. One was about how knew he was to to the job just days in when the whistle blower complaint was filed. I am the acting deny and I was still using garment to get to work Garmon. The head of intelligence needs Garmin. Maybe it's because it's more secure than Google but come on Garmon. He also struck aggressively noncommittal stance on whether the whistle blower complaint was true credible. Yes credible doesn't necessarily mean the same as true but it doesn't necessarily mean it's false. Sometimes McGuire took the neither confirm nor deny thing a little too far as when Representative Mike Quigley Democrat Illinois questioned him about Rudy Giuliani hero in the sides of Rudy Giuliani congressman quickly. I neither aware unaware whether or not Mr Giuliani has a security clarity for that would mean you were unaware. If you are neither aware nor unaware that means you're unaware that's how unawareness works and we are all in a way unaware in these divided times uh-huh what the hell is rudy thinking. What is he doing. That is the question that unites us all. We also know one thing. I think we do ready this is this is an actual going to say. It's the realm of fact or at least in the realm of extremely credible reporting backed up by our own experience here at slate the whistle blower is a man at the Times reports. He is a CIA operative when lawyers for the whistle blower talk to my colleague Dahlia lift quick they routinely use the pronoun him him he and then every dozen or so references this is we catch themselves and say or her. This sort of thing went on a lot in today's hearing and you don't know his political affiliation obviously do not. I do not know this or her. Political affiliate affiliate given direction to this whistle blower that he can in fact or he or she can impact cup lower says that he spoke or she spoke to who about whether it's this president or any president. Do you believe it is okay for the president of the United States to pressure a foreign oren country into helping him or her winning election okay whether here she wins an election so far. It's only been a him if we get to a her. That's the president didn't who's won an election. It will mean the current guy that his efforts didn't work of course Maguire's use of him or her he or she might have been motivated by something other than commitment to secrecy here. He is addressing Rep Jackie short for Jacqueline Spear at any point during this process. Did you personally threaten in to resign. If the complaint was not provided to the committee congressman I I did not and I know that that story has appeared quite a bit and issued a statement in yesterday all right. Thank you when you read the complaint. Were you shocked at all by what you read Congressman Congresswoman. Excuse me as I said I had a life experience a lot of life experience. I joined the navy. I understand your record. Could you just I I realized the I realized full well full in well. The importance of the allegation and I also have to tell your congressman congresswoman when I saw that I anticipated anticipated having to sit in front of some committee sometime to discuss it even the president in his rantings that were reported by the L. A. Times said this basically that person never saw the report never saw the call he never saw the call heard something and decided that he or she or whoever the hell they saw they're almost the spy well. Let's just say this. If nothing else this incident forces trump in to the woke ism of the gendered Pronoun. They really are getting to them and that's it for today day. Show Daniel schrader produced the gist. He's been working here over three years. We sell us to make his way in using weathervane and topographical map written by eighteen seventies gold prospector. Dr Christina also produces the gist. She is celebrating her one week anniversary. She is still making it into work by breadcrumbs yet but that will end ensued the gist your North Star for nightly news analysis in Dino Cicero content who do Peru and thanks for listening you didn't.
Little Women (2019) | Greta Gerwig
"The Hi welcome to stir film review. podcast my name is Vince Leo. I am the author of the film. Review website quips dot net. Invite you to check out over. Four thousand of my written reviews abusing read anytime quick. Stir Dot net is where to go Q. W. I p. s. t. e. r. Dot net while you're there I also encourage you. If you're a fan of films of the nineteen eighties like I am. You will definitely get a kick out of my other podcast. It's called around the world in eighties movies. You can find the link to that by going to my website. That's equipped stor dot net today. I'm going to be getting into a film. That is getting a lot of critical acclaim out there including a lot of Oscar nominations. It's called little women and it's a film that is written and directed by Greta. Gerwig who gave us Ladybird by favourite film from twenty seventeen of course based on the novel by Louisa May alcott Sir. Sha Ronin is is in the film along with Florence Pugh Timothy Shallow May Emma Watson Laura dern Elisa Scanlon Louis Gorell Chris Cooper and Meryl Streep as as well as Tracy Letts. PG rated does have thematic elements and brief smoking. The run time is two hours and fifteen minutes. Now this is of course bringing back Louisa. Somme Al Qods much beloved in oft adapted novel of the same name. I think this is maybe the seventh or eighth adaptation to the big screen at least notable one for little women it does relate the story of the four March sisters. They grew up. In their humble existence. In Nineteenth Century Massachusetts Greta Gerwig here is adapting capping the screenplay and directing the feature although it is an age old story but it does have an eye for a modern audience under gerwig direction her eye for authenticity. Fantasy it's impeccable in her second solo effort as a director. And she's really coming off your one. Excellent feature after another personal comedic drama lady bird word really set the mold for her but this is giving someone else's voice to her instead of a personal vision although she really does make it our own little women comes across feeling ailing no less personal even though the story in the setting and the era are not Gerwig as a novel little women had been published in two volumes to first one in eighteen sixty eight and the other in eighteen sixty nine but the volumes ended up being combined in the film. They are interwoven. Together in this rearranged timeline that jumps back and forth in it spotlights the hopes of the sisters and their dreams as teenagers. And then they temper those ambitions with the grimmer realities Alevis of the real world when they're in their adulthood. The film spins the aren't of the four young sisters with artistic and romantic ambitions. Their names are Joe and amy me and Megan Beth in their living with their mother Marmi while their father is off fighting in the civil war now much of the film concentrates on Joe Story Play by Sir Sha Ronin and and that's regarding her ambition and her struggle to become a published writer and we meet her first at a newspaper editors office who ends up chopping up her story and then paying occur less than usual to publish it but joe is ecstatic that her work even diminished by. This editor is going up here in the paper. And throughout the course of the film we see Joe's Joe's maturation she finds her voice both as a writer and as a woman the artistic. Amy these second. Oldest sister played by Florence. Pugh you. She takes a sizable secondary role. Not only as an actor but also as a sister here mostly stems from Amy's possible romance with. Laurie played by Timothy Shallow Chaumet as well as her difficulty in accepting that the only real path to achieve financial success for a woman in this era of society is to marry a rich man. The third spotlighted is made play by Emma Watson who wants to be an actress but who's married for love with his tutor of lower means and last is Beth this promising pianist just who ends up suffering due to scarlet fever and she becomes the reason that the family stays bonded together at some point in their lives. Never Greta Gerwig. Little women does represent present story that she has carried since her youth her mother ready-to-wear when she was very very young and then she had reread it several times throughout her childhood and into her early teens around the age fifteen was the last time she read it until her early thirties. And she found when she read it as an adult that a lot of it resonated with her in a very different different a very personal way that did not strike her when she read it as a teenager. And what once seemed like a heartwarming and old fashioned tale when she was young now read like a modern topical book underneath her familiarity with the march sisters and their story. Come through in this film and you can sense what parts may have found a meaningful from all cats riding. By what she's decided to showcase the medically on the screen you can tell from the narrative that both all hot and GERWIG identify with breath. Joe The most among the sisters she's a storyteller and a woman who has to traverse in this field is largely dominated by men at the top. Something that both alcott and Gerwig have to deal with as storytellers in their own respective fields the desire to adapt little women for a new generation. It really started back in twenty thirteen. Sony pictures felt that the last major tation was approaching twenty years old. They needed something for a new generation. The nineteen ninety-four version with winona. Ryder was very well respected and much beloved but they you want something that people have not seen before so the ended up going with the script by then newcomer milch but that ended up. Not Panning out. That was rejected. Did and things went into limbo until producer amy. Pascal took over the project. Pascal made it her mission to emphasize female lead stories and filmmakers in her productions since she began discussions with Sarah polly initially in twenty fifteen with this option for poly to direct. If they decide to go with her adaptation Gerwig during this time heard what about their intentions to make a film of Little Women in Two Thousand Sixteen and she immediately petitioned to be the one to write the script and she was given the go-ahead when polly became wrapped up with another project net flicks miniseries called alias. Grace once lady bird ended up getting released in two thousand seventeen to soaring critical acclaim. Sony asked if she liked to also direct from her script so hers would be different though because while others who have adapted little women see as a tale of family and sisterhood primarily Gerwig Gerwig saw it as more governed by money issues and passion for art and what it means to be a woman to have money in this era gives you freedom freedom to pursue your art something that women have rarely been afforded to up to that point in history and to help flesh out. The story to mirror ALCOTT's life GERWIG ended up consulting more even just a little women novel. Her diaries her letters her other novels. She used some of her entries in their diaries and her letters to add flavor to the bits of dialogue going to merge them with Joe's story especially Joe alcock almost become one and the same here her decision to lay of the stories with his back and forth in the timeline. Timeline comes from this contrast between the two volumes in the book the first volume is much more crowd pleasing in its telling and it ranges from one Christmas to another. That's usually the one that most people adapt when they do adapt little women this his second volume to the film that concentrates more on the relationships in the marriages of the sisters as a grown to adulthood and that contrast their dreams and sacrifices that they've made in both volumes Beth becomes ill and what occurs to her in each of the sets sets the tone of the work with the first volume representing the compromises compromises that Alcott made to get her story published while the second shifts more towards semi-autobiographical viewpoints. You know given that many adaptations only concentrate on the first volume of the sisters as young girls you know. Those are usually crafted heartwarming tales of Christmas and Family Unity Gerwig treatment really breaks the mold for little women that shows the girls as adults facing the realities. That young women have aspiration faced in Alcott's day to find their own paths in life only to be constantly told that their journey it has to be tied to a man to achieve anything the first volume resonated with Gerwig too many readers as young girls the second volume resonated much more to Gerwig when and she was an adult Gerwig. Little women is what all caught wrote that stuck with her when she was viewing it with the eyes and of an adult all Rhode her volumes in her mid thirties with that that perspective in mind that looking back at her childhood Gerwig here adapting the book in her mid thirties keeping in mind viewing all cots writing with a similar perspective on where they are in life as struggling talents in their respective fields. The dialogue was written so that the actors would end up talking over one another on occasion very frequently much. It's like a real conversation might especially with this family of a mother and four sisters who really know each other very well and are not afraid to share their ideas when ever a thought strikes strikes. The actors are not stationary in this film at all they usually perform actions as talk and walk in to a room and into another room in a way that draws out how people might do so in real life felt that period pieces don't necessarily need to move slowly because in their own time. They were the bustling and modern the era they were the most modern era up to that point. There's plenty of dancing here of seeing in running and feeling alive and a naturalistic flow to these performances. That are given due to who the well rehearsed and choreographed interactions. All of that makes little women feel less scripted and Steph. Even though a lot of this dialogue comes straight from the novel Gerwig replaces a good deal of emphasis on keeping the action moving on the screen with shots of people running and spinning and twirling and just being active and that moves the story in the repulsive also way that keeps viewers engaged from a visual standpoint. These women are restless and so is the camera. Now it's an odd thing to see the film play on and these two levels. One of Jomar has a character in the book and the other as Joe March. Who is the author of her own story? Gerwig makes a concerted effort. Draw the connection between Wean Joe March and Louisa May alcott in the seamless way and more than this to make the connection between Jo and Louisa. And then Greta herself and and then any young woman who has dreamt of pursuing her artistic desires in feeling undermined by this male dominated structure. That tells women how they should be and what it means to be. A woman often coming from the mouth of a man who thinks he knows more about how women feel and think the woman who's actually putting herself out there with her own thoughts and feelings little Indus- benefit from a very strong cast here ronin delivering another fantastic performance as worthy of the highest accolades and greatest. She is there are others. Who End up delivering very strong doc in memorable character performances most notably Florence Pew as Joe's younger sister? Amy She's anguished by not only her lifelong struggle with feeling inferior to her free-spirited older sister but by others who she may feel have more talent at expressing themselves as artists in the manner that she actively pursues. She claims names that she either wants to be great or be nothing. So it's a heartbreaking realization later when she comes to the conclusion that she may not actually be destined for the greatness which she aspires aspires Timothy. Shallow may also provides the requisite charm as Laurie who's copying the loves of two sisters who seem to want to make something more of themselves before they might choose to settle down into societal expectations. Emma Watson she was a last minute addition to the film. So not as rehearsed as the others. She replaced the originally cast Emma Emma stone who left due to scheduling conflicts. But you know she adds her nice personality here not as strong in her role as the others but definitely holds the wait for that performance there. There's a line in this film. It's delivered by the French actor. Louis Grell who plays Joe's German boardinghouse critic. Friend Friedrich Bear. He he states Shakespeare was the greatest poet who ever lived because he smuggled his poetry in popular works as Shakespeare. So too is with Greta. Gerwig who takes this holy popular work little women and smuggles in her own distinctive and personal insights regarding womanhood artistic expression and the way money. The influences are infused through judicious selections from the original art his own words and expressions throughout the entire body of Alcott's work work. The best happy ending here is not of a wedding so much as of a woman who comes into her own as a professional storyteller and controller of her own destiny estany both in front of and as it turns out behind the camera and for that I will give little women four stars out of four four stars on Ice Kilmeade. I do recommend to everyone. I think this is a truly wonderful film. Greta Gerwig to for to as far as I'm concerned delivering just really great films that are going to last for decades and be cherished for many people who view them not only in their youth but much later in life as well so four stars out of four is what I give twenty nineteenth women and if you're ever own thoughts on women and you want to impart them to me if I my contact information at my website. That's I quit. Stir Dot net key. WIP S. T. E. R. DOT net. You can find links to my twitter. Feed facebook page my instagram. You can even just email me and you'll find all of that. Emma website equity dot net. Until next time. Thanks so much for listening and please enjoy your time anytime you get peace.
GRETA - Double Toasted Audio Review
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Grace Marie plays Francis. You know, she's a she's a young woman just like every other young person York, she got high and bishops, but right now, she's working at a restaurant. It's funny because she's living and how you know as a movie because you live in one of the nicest apartments, and I think Chelsea I think is what they said where you can get nothing. You get a one you barely get a one bedroom for under five thousand dollars a month. Oh, well her it's a room. Exactly. But she happened to have some rich phrase, and you wonder like why girlfriends with her? I guess with the high school ago. Yeah. How they ended up in same high school. That's a quit. That's the question in New York. Yeah. But anyway, she said going go ahead. You know, this this kind of my charity right here. Go hand bring little broke as live with me. Only thing is that she's kind of lonely because she's not living the same life as a friend. So she finds this this woman by accident. Greta, Greta, just happens to be the older woman who left her purse on a subway, and Greta. Wishy meets Francis. She says, you know, what all you so nice. And you know, your, mommy my daughter, and I'm. I don't to be honest. I'm lonely, and I don't not too many people get by these days. I just take piano people about the way for stopping by. I'm sure I won't see again. But yeah, but you know, what how about this. How about you come in for coffee coffee lease to dinner, and then dinner Leeson fucking insanity. Because. Because Greta as it does the Greta is, Greg. She's like a ex-boyfriend our guy with a crush on a girl a Stocker pretty much. She once you open the door with her Ewing leaving. And if you do she's going to find you and in which way, she can and. What you in France's in the thing is she has to get a Greg office. But of course, is one of those things where like well. You know, the law says, you can just do as much crazy. As long as like within the law. She can do as much lovely crazy shit as he was let's go to look at this trailer for Greta we'll be back with our review. I've a bag found that I belong to Dag listened to heart. Where did you find it on the subway? Oh, coffee, you've been so kind. I don't get many visitors console only by the left. Don't do. My mom actually is to say I'm like chewing. And the secret. Where the candles. Music. That'll person's going to take. She must have found a sale. Numbers. I guess just letting bags in the city Nobis bring some b-actor too. Oh, my God is her drink. I saw the bags brother. I never wanna see you again. She's really freaking out. This is not a problem public area rights to protect. Exciting. Racers for the. I can't invest are you child you the tide. You need a mother to hold a dare talk to. This. Think about a really want to like this movie man because this is the kind of movie where things just batch shit insane to to the level. I want them to you know, and plus it's one of those movies where it's on con-. So uncomfortable feeling but in a good way if they do it, right? And then you know, when I think that this is a great setup to. Isabelle Huppert, French actress in prayer who's been a business for a long time in. Know the setup for this. Great because the friendship between Fransen Greta starts out. Really? Sweet man. It makes you dread when things are about to be wrong. Because I mean because you know, 'cause I read up on. I wish I had not gone in cold with this. Oh, you read before you got in there. I read it before I got in there. Because if I 'cause I would have been completely fooled. I had you know because it is. So sweet the way starts out in they make you feel really bad for Greta man, because you know, gerrad Greta saying all the words that she needs to manipulate people. You know, Frenchwoman daughter's gone. I know. Here's the other thing. You'd look I know this joke all the time but old win. But Greg is fine as hell, you know, Greg. Greg ain't got no reason to be lonely. You know, what I'm saying Greg going tend to pick up twenty do you know what I mean, grit, grit and got no reason to be lonely. Greta look like, you know, ain't be off them. Look like Medina or something. Yeah. Lonely. But now man do they will be throwing themselves at her. You know, I that's how you know some going on. But the thing is when it does go wrong. It don't waste no time. Getting the question. I mean, it does take time to get it set up and make you believe one thing. But yeah, you're right. It drops off a cliff and it don't take long. That's what I'm saying that it's not really it's not really a spoiler. Because in ten minutes in ten minutes like Greta stars, real sweet. Very nice. Undeterred ten minutes. She loses her fucking mind and within ten minutes. Fifteen minutes of the movie, she goes, she loses shit and. And at that point is like because you go in a lot of movies. They'll have you kinda guessing whether this person is wrong, no training days, a movie like that. You got somebody who's shady. But you don't know sure are something like a fatal attraction, you've you feel bad for the person because you know, they've been done wrong and lied to. But you you give them benefit of the down to you just realize just how fucked up they really are. Yeah. Well, also with this movie like the setup common from Francis finding the bag and return it and the sweet friendships, she has this older woman. This is the point where you go. Will. This is all nice. But there's gotta be a reason they got us. There's gotta be a reason. Yeah. Yeah. I mean because because the thing is with her going so crazy in such a short amount of time. There is no guesswork at all. No bitches in saying there's. You don't put it all out there. Yeah. Man. And you know in and see that was cool about it was normally reserved for a twist in a movie, they don't try to do that here. Go ahead and get that out a lot of movies that think like how we full and you're right. Yeah. We we got you going. Don't you like, no? Can we get to know here? What? Yeah, they get that done early man like that whole purse thing, just, you know, you find out very early that that's a trap that she's been laying out. She's been like wile E Coyote into lane traps all around the city. Been fishing fishing for young for young chicks, man, and. And and so, you know, that's I'm glad that they don't waste any time with that. Because that's not that that would try to any of the movie would reserve that for twisted. It'll be a lame twist. Yeah. But the, you know, the crazy revealed that is actually part of the problem too. Because while it's good for the tension in the beginning. When you find out where it is. And you get all the bullshit out the way, it doesn't make sense with the story in the long run. Because once she's insane. All she's doing is just cranking it up from there, and she's cranking up to a point to where. Because because this she. She's cracking up to a point where she she's not even somebody like with her character, in the way, these characters are movies where they're crazy like this. She goes she starts out being kind of scary. She goes from being creepy too. Scary to okay just gonna fucking nurse now. Because because the things that she does is it's like those things should they should be things that it up this way. Yes. Greg is crazy. But even crazy people got things to do grad a goes outside of classrooms out in front of the store and stays there. All day stared at the window at this point. It'd be scary at first, but it's kinda like you need to go home. You know, this is silly now. She's retired. She's honestly what else does she have to do that is true? It's all. I can do this all day stares across the street in stairs all day. It may be mad. I'm just kind of like, you know, do across where puzzle something this is stupid, man. And what's the problem is with staring at somebody? I'll daylight that. Is that okay? That that is behavior that's going to get somebody called on u you know, somebody's gonna you know, somebody's gonna look at you and say, look if you and even if you're not a threat somebody needs to take care of you you need to go somewhere. You're obviously, not right. Well, it clearly if you call the police, they say, well, if they haven't threatened noon sudden, we can do and they have the right to stand out there that that and that gets them on nurse too. Because like I said, I it goes from like, it goes to scary and goes to irritating. The calling the begging it goes from actually being even irritating to just pathetic in the last. What really makes it so sad. And that's why they do actually make you feel sorry for it. I 'cause it's kinda like, you know. Yes, she's insane. But still even get you for a little while saying, well, she just has somebody you just gave her little attention. She probably be alright. Well, you're you're right. Because I was actually they I was mad at the victims little while because khloe grace Merete sue plays Francis. In the movie win. When she finds purses. She don't even know how to play that off when she finds those purses. Like they were they were having a good time before. Do we could you bring Musso? Yes. By me. I haven't. Haven't. Purses, and especially the yell out loud. What the? Back to the take of the person was like she's like, she's like a what she key possible Washington. Yeah. I'll be right back person with excellent. She said on the she's like did you find what you need. Hungry. She's like some wrong. Yeah. This is hard enough dealer. Will you could've played that off a lot better. Like, if you know somebody's crazy. You gotta be like, okay, everything's fine. Everything's cool. You know, I'm good. Are you going to are you going to sit down in have dinner with this person after? Yes, really? Yes. Because I'm not because I'm thinking they put something in his food on in my glass and see Martin us. Why will end up in a dungeon? In the pasta was good. Because my reason was I was scared because I was like girl you you make you give yourself away. Now, really try to do to you. I'd I'd be like doing the movie saw the other day where I would just silently tip out and leave. Yeah. I'm you know, I, but even in this kind of like man, maybe maybe just talked to her a good excuse. But, but, but we we soon learn that would not know that is true that isn't true man, even in couldn't feel bad for anymore, and I have to say middle. The squirming is good at first until it just starts getting until starts getting just like I say just really really kind of comical to a certain point and Isabela who pairs what you call. She's actually she's very good movie. She's had plenty of practice. I mean, he she does crazy. Well, because he's done a few other movies before you, remember the piano teacher? Smoothie came out believably like two thousand five no, no. Yeah. Michael Hanneke film. Yeah. This goes into an insane place in remember the movie that that was very controversial for her L L. Yes. That's the movie where where somebody was terrorizing her. Now. She's I'm a flip the script. Now. It's my turn why? Because she was crazy. Yes. She had a tech a running. She does good too. Yeah. So she does crazy very well. The only thing is is that. In the in the movie is frustrated because it like saying before it's that film with you know. Since it's a movie, they have to make every skews for her to just get as creepy as she can like we said, you know, she's allowed to be craze as long as she's being crazy within the law. You know, she's a, sir. She can stare Joe as all day as much as she wants to long as she's cert- certain amount of feet away from the building as long as she's not doing anything to physically harm you on. Like, I'm pretty sure that's not true. That is not unless a movie was it takes place in the nineties because there's all kinds of anti-stalking laws would not let her do today while she was doing it, actually what a little young girl, New York. Of course man in. I just in is so twisted the way that this movie leans towards the the the the the stalker getting away with so much. They don't it doesn't make sense when she goes like at when a Greta goes to the restaurant that Francis works in. And they know that this woman has a history of strange history with Francis. You you would think that the manager would be like are you? Okay. Do you want to get out of here? And and no they the manager pools Francis clone grace, Marie aside. Do not cause a scene get her whatever she wants just like crazy crazy money to fucking thing. Make her server anybody else would be the no. We'll we'll keep her in here. Call we'll call the police, and I have to serve. Why would you not even just get another waitress? They know the woman's crazy. She's like Ingres is like I want to Francis. She's paying Francis. Customer's. Always right. Sorry. It's New York should about anybody Frances serving right up. I was probably to bring Francis on a plate to her with apple in mouth. And then it goes. It goes further when Francis actually serving her now, this is the point. Whereas like, of course, this woman, she's not normal. She has a history at this restaurant. It's only a matter time before she just completely loses. Her shit. Bit like, you promises band is appoint come on. I was child was better. This to me to ask are you child? You the chide you need to you need a mother proposed to us from one and you play we both points. Dare talk to about my mother. She to die. She had to. I am. At this point, somebody should should've hauled off to Arkham asylum. But no, she's free the next day back at the restaurant. They do holler off. But she's out and they take a stretching joker Stein. Right. Hannibal Lecter stuff. Is she still free the next day? Don't get me wrong. But Isabelle who she's great in his movie, you can tell she's having a lot of fun is row. She does actually take it to joke levels after a while to the point where it's almost comical. And you have a hard time trying to feel the tone of this move hand, you keep using this word that I just don't agree with what is it almost? Because honestly, watch this movie. Yeah, you're right. It starts out very sweet. And you're in and then, but you know, it's thriller in kicks in. And then it goes in the full overdrive on the thriller part. But it's like, well, okay. It's full of plot holes and tropes from so many of these thrillers. It's just it's just throwing it in trope after Trump after trope, and it's kind of ridiculous like it falls apart. When you think for a second. There's no way you could be terrorized by someone who's half your size. These just your surveillance teams is not going to let that happen. Yeah. At some point you light, listen, I'm the fuck out of you. If you if you don't quit, and I can't even trying to and it just kinda hit me was like this movie. This is this is a parody. I mean, it's it's it's it's campy. And it's like, it's like a parody of all these thrillers up this point where they just took when he's one of these ridiculous scripts for when he's ridiculous thrillers and say like, you know, instead of it being the boyfriend, we've tried everything. Let's make it must make it a old woman. Yeah. And go from there because this throughout this whole thing, I was like, you know, gloom, rents greats. I mean, grace Marantz she's only endangered just because she hasn't stopped to think about the situation, and what she could actually do to end it all, but just the way they push it every time you showed clips from this. It's makes me laugh, and I'm like, I'm laughing away like got him. Larry's. Yeah. I was laughing out loud. But I, but I will say watching it through the first time it's frustrating because you like wasn't doing this. That's dumb. This is stupid. Wait. Hold on a second. I'm still trying to joke. I'm still trying to figure that out 'cause I'm not so sure it is because Martin look it it should be because it's so dumb to the point that it should be set tiring being a satire of of of. I mean, if it's if it's not a satire, this is one of the most incompetent movies ever made because because right now ever made because it's made okay, but written well, the reason why because. The characters in his movie, they do every dump thing that you yell at the screen for when you're watching a dumb ass thriller are har- movie double tap. Yeah. At least get another hit in. Yeah. Yeah. Don't turn your back on now. No. As the villain. You don't put somebody away and then walk off. Oh and think you got them. Oh about in as a as a hero or the villain somehow middle of the movie which starred I kind of granite the villain learns how to teleport. People when they were like across the street, and what time you get the old trope of the detective who comes in, and well, they taken care of. Stack up and there's no question or anyone looking for evidence there. Yeah. Now this and I will tell you that the wait, look, I'm not looking for complete realism. But there's a point is moving. I can't tell you where it is. Because I'll be spoiling things. But there's a point here where just like look the law would just kick in. Yeah. Yeah. Sense. With just kick in too many things that have just happened here that involved a very serious crime with somebody would be looking. Huh? Either this way either either this a parody art these characters especially Claude grace Marex people. Just don't give a fuck about them. When they go missing. No one. Ambler out milk cartons. Look the setup. She's the she's the sweet. Girl of modest means. But she's got the rich bitchy best friend. Yeah. And in the beginning. She's like why are you hanging out with that old bitch? He's supposed to be with me. Yeah. No, she's manipulative and everything in one of the things I did like about the movies like it's like mama's competently may I like that as it is about a young person New York in New York, but since she's dealing with older person. They're not always doing the same thing. Like going to all the the hip places and all the rant. You know, the all of the a popular boroughs and whatnot neighborhoods. Now, I keep really old classic film new of New York here, even with the colors man, Brown brownish, red tones and whatnot. Like that they filmed the movie like that New York and made it artistically shot like this. But you know, but at what you are. Sure that this is a this is a comedy are this is a satire parody. I'm not sure myself. I I think that you kind of have to be clear about those things. I I'm usually I I hear what you're saying. Like. If if somebody says, I I didn't see it that way, I get it, man. I 'cause I wasn't seeing it that way either. It's just one of those things where once I did see it that way it all worked for me from point forward because I know what you mean about how something can be in the middle one. Like is this a comedy or not because honestly like like problems with black klansman was always just like is this a comedy, it doesn't I'm not laughing. But. Some stuff is funny. I don't it was halfway comedy. Yeah. It was a drama. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. And then with this. I was just like yet. Some of the stuff is just too ridiculous for somebody. Especially a filmmaker. We've been around for a long, Jordan. Yeah. To not know what they're doing. Yeah. I thought the same thing. But I think that's one of the problems with the movies that they probably gonna push it a little bit more for that. Since I didn't get the sense of it. But I mean, I was entertained, but I not a whole lot. You know? I think because I do think when I when I got out of it is like for his craze is was I I'm not gonna remember whole. I will unless I think about it's not like that forgivable. But you know, if I'm if this is not my Mouna leave I saw it. It really has left my head. And I only reason I remember some things now is because I actually have to come back and review it because we saw two weeks ago. I give it a give it a rental, man. I I I enjoyed it. But not on some level where we wanna allows watch. And I was like I don't need to watch it here. But at home would have been very interesting. It's perfect for watching at home. I did. I mean, I I clearly enjoyed it more than you. But I do still see as a rental just it's a very short movie, which it that's that's actually one of the big pluses to it say, it's one of those words like, yeah. We don't have a lot to say these are things that in these movies. We think it's funny we're flipping, but the villain is to something different. Nobody's tried. It's pretty ridiculous. And everybody's having fun with it. But it knows it doesn't need to be any more than hour and a half. If it's even that long. Yeah. Yeah. It's. I would never tell anybody like turn away from it. If it was on. I'll be like, hey, man, you need to watch this and see this crazy shit. That's about to happen. Yeah. But, but if you got bored. I'd be like you're not missing anything after you know, I love to go see this again at midnight went when teenagers are going to see it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even think teenagers would be into it that much. I think they'd be kind of bullet. They did what the movies not boring is always something happening and like going to those late night movies to be. I mean, we've seen them at thrillers or harm movies when nothing's happening and they're still just like oh scrapie. Oh, yeah. So here you got stuff going on is. What's funny to me? Is that not only is she'll low woman that a girl in our twenties Whitten shouldn't have to be scared of. But this is not even just any girl. Hit girl, actually. Actually, you know, what she's that's one thing. They did give me she's not a small woman. She's actually taller than her emplo Marin thick so like like when she's running after her and even nut. She made me think like he just got like crazy strength. She on wished you got up from that table, and like, you know, the weight like that's scary man that shit right there car table. Tiny. She is I don't know, man. You know, how they talk about ain't trying to use? I'm not trying to use anything bad. This is saying that they say people have retard string. Thank she's got like crazy string, some people. Don't fuck with momentum. What's? At the point. They were at the point. They would miss what you'll life as much as she was. I you would step in. She she, you know, when Martin only agree with you because I have data chicks like this. Fuck while you last night. What did you call me? I was waiting for you. Excuse. But for her, you know, but yeah, there you go people run overall, not so bad. I guess planning bags in the city. Nobody's brings them b-actor and to. My goddess. Thing. I saw the bags brother. I never wanna see you again. She's really for a limited time at sprint. Get fifty dollars for each new phone you lease when you switch. That's right. You'll get fifty dollars for each new phone on a prepaid MasterCard. Issued by MetaBank member FDIC. Just register for the card online. 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Working Moms, Spring Books, And Hot Cast Iron Tips
"From wbz chicago. This is nerd. I'm greta johnson and we have somehow made it to another friday in the month of march in the year. Two thousand twenty one coming up the biggest book nerd. I know tells us about some books coming out this spring. She has already read one hundred fifty in the last three months. Plus we'll hear from someone who's managed to make a job out of talking about cast iron pans on tiktok but i. It's our chat about the week. That was this time with two excellent reporters race class and communities desk here at wbz. We have estrogen g king. And natalie more hey you to. Hey greta greta. Welcome to the show. I'm glad to have both of you Obviously this has been really rough newsweek. Because a couple of days ago we learned that a man was arrested after killing eight people in atlanta six of whom were asian american women. It's the latest in a spike of violence against asian americans largely attributed to racism around. Cova d- Esther you have reported on this violence. You are an asian american woman. How are you doing you know. There's there's not a lot of time to think and feel how i am doing. I think yesterday was full of just reporting and deadline and getting the story out the door. I think in the evenings when i have time to reflect. It's it's just really sad. And what i've been doing is i've been looking for more information on the victims and seeing how just how invisible they are even in this story which is about them and they are just not a lot known about them because their stories are against the reporters working on this from national media or even local media they just don't have that language access and so i'm not reading a ton about them. The most information. I've seen as from korean media in atlanta and so they've been doing some reporting us. I've been reading about these ladies. And some of some of our more old some of them were like seventies sixties fifties and it always makes me think about my own mom and aunties and people like that so you really just try to get through it and do the work but when you stop and think about it. It's really heartbreaking really is what do you think natalie what i've been paying attention to is how this is being framed by law enforcement and the media and it was pretty telling that the onion which is satire didn't even do satire this week. The newspaper put the actual headline from the police. Chief who said that the killer was having a bad day and we see the same kind of cycle when there's a mass shooting by a young white man. He's alive and i'm not advocating that he should be killed But there's their safety for this person and there's excuse making for this person so there's that piece Esther one thing. I saw that. I was curious to get your take on was a tweet actually from marina fang culture reporter for Huffington post and. She wrote that. She woke up thinking about the emotional whiplash of this week which began with the thrill of seeing so many overdue firsts for asians at the oscars and then this and she said it was a perennial reminder that our existence in this country and then wade institutions has always been conditional. I thought about that too. I think it's just a weird time to be asian. You know in this country. And they're such high highs this week with the oscar nominations. I think it's something that a lot of asians have been proud of and and then to go from that and just just a reminder again that we are foreigners in this country lest we forget they always find a way to remind us that we are seeing a certain way and so for sure and in addition to what natalie was saying the cop that said that this suspect long was just having a bad day. That cup had supposedly on his facebook page Photos of sort of a t shirts that were racist in nature they were a scapegoating china for the coronavirus he was mocking mocking at. And so those those. I think those photos were taken down after they came to light. But it makes you wonder about the narratives that Police present in these shootings. That are racially motivated But they say are not right well in the idea. I mean like we all have bad days. Most of us don't kill a lot of people when they have bad days rate like. Yeah i just eat ice cream. Natalie i think natalie you like a peach. I had a bad day this weekend. I wouldn't get heralds peach cobbler in esther game. He's in key lime pie. So that's what i did on my bed day. eat a lot of sugar and carbs. Well i hate to even like have to talk about this topic with each of you. But i am really glad you at least have solid coping skills. I think that's really important so some better news of the week is that some people are starting to see another stimulus check in their bank accounts. It is the third stimulus payments since the pandemic started the first one hundred the biden. It's also the first time that childcare dollars in there it's got forty billion dollars in the form of tax credits for people with kids. You're both moms of young kids. Natalie you actually produced a story almost exactly a year ago now for wbz about what it was like to be a radio reporter with a kit at home during the pandemic and when your kid were in the story it was adorable. Let's listen to some of it. I have an interview at nine thirty. Okay kill you have an interview okay. I'm going to set you up in your room for you to do your interview and i'm gonna do my what i get to ellen view window closet and who are you going to interview. They interview nancy pelosi. And what are you going to interview her about. I don't know. I ain't gonna find out so i was curious to ask each of you. Did you'll see the the viral moment. That happened a couple of weeks ago with. She was like a global health expert who is being interviewed by the bbc. And kind of pops up in the background starts putting this picture of a unicorn on different like shelves of a bookshelf to leak. See where it would look best and it got to the point. Where like the interviewer you know. Kind of like what's your kid's name like. They chatted about it for a second. He waited on where the where the unicorn picture should go. Has either of you had a unicorn on the shelf moment. Like that esther. Oh yeah oh yeah i mean. He's so many meetings. Like i'll see you on the zoom. I'll be waving my arm like stop. Do not come in. Because she's about to come through. My arm is always perpetually out to to the to my left side. She and they're days that she takes it. Well you know. Sometimes she'll just quietly back out closed-door leave and then there are days when like she's she needs a band aid or something and she's about to lose it and those inevitably happen when i'm on a very important interview and so oh for sure for sure wild. What about you natalie. She has not done anything done. Anything live so. I am grateful for you could edit out. Yeah especially when you interview vice president khama harris. Natalie doesn't hurt when you have a cute precocious kid. I can testify. She is both cute and precocious. Before i let you go whenever segments later on in the show is about cast irons. It was curious if either of you has cooked anything delicious in a cast iron pan lately that we should know about natalie. I know for sure you like to cook. I have a really good recipe than eleven. The cast iron skillet. it's to cornish fans with bacon. Baby potatoes brussels sprouts lemon in garlic. You really high and you cook it in stages like you do the cornish in for a little bit and then you add a you just keep adding things and it's a one pot dish it's Very kid friendly teenagers love. Everybody loves it. So that's my favorite. That's when i think of one. I do not think of cornish game hens. That's amazing. what about you or do you cook much. i do. I do cook. But i am kind of of the cast iron skillet so i have to and i think i'll need to listen to your segment with an expert because i'm scared to wash it and i'm scared to i'm just it intimidates me and so i have a really really big one and so i'll i'll just cook. I'll just use it like any old pan and just cook on my stove. Top with a cast iron skillet. But it doesn't mean every time i look at it. I'm i'm not terrified of the. There's something about putting it in the oven to that does just feel next level about it. Yeah true family more king. Thank you both so much for taking the time to talk with me. Today it was. It was really nice. Conversation allergist the best. Thanks for avenue q fun to learn now that it is almost technically officially spring. We thought now it'd be a great time to check in with a book nerd about some of the more exciting releases that are coming out over the next couple of months. And one of our favorite book nerds. Internet is liberty hertie senior contributing editor for book riot and host of the popular books. Podcast which have to yell every time. She lives in the great state of maine where she reads between five hundred and six hundred books a year and hangs out with her three cats. Who hate to read liberty. Hey hi thank you for having me back. I'm really exclamation mark in my podcast title for a reason like ice speak and exclamation marks. We're just gonna yellow books for the next fifteen minutes. It's gonna be amazing. It really is so. I'm curious i feel like we should start. I mean five hundred or six hundred bucks a year. Where are you at so far in your book count. Do you know. I think a little behind this year. What does that mean. Like one hundred fifty or something where we march. I think i'm just shy of one hundred fifty. Oh that's insane. I think. I met like maybe thirty. Well i mean. I don't really do anything else right ray rate. That's what i tell myself to console myself. Yeah okay so. I think we both agreed that we're going to do this chronologically So you have something coming out. March thirtieth rate. What you got. Yes they do. So it's liberty by kaelin greenidge and it comes. Out march thirtieth. This is about a woman named liberty samson. She is born a free black girl and reconstruction era brooklyn. Her mother is a doctor which is so unusual for a free black woman to be a doctor during slavery but her mother has light skin and she passes for white and she wants liberty to be a doctor just like her and she tries to instill in her this love of science but liberty is not all that interested plus liberty. Skin is darker than her mother's so she knows that it's not going to be as easy for her when she meets a young man from haiti. Who is also a young black man. He proposes to her and says if you come to haiti with me you know i will treat you like my equal and you can have all this freedom and do whatever you want. But he's lying and when she gets there she learns that not only does she not have the freedom that he said she would but all the women on the island are treated like subordinates and property and so she has to learn like what freedom means a black woman and how can she find it for. Wow that sounds really good. So the book that. I'm probably the most excited about for this spring that i have not yet read comes out soon. It comes out on april six. And it's called good company which i haven't ready. I have very high expectations for which sometimes is like not the best actually but it's biased in the pre sweeney who wrote the nest a couple of years ago which i thought was just kind of like the perfect like rich people behaving badly like kind of soapy fund. Read and so. I'm hoping for the same from that one. I haven't read it yet though. She's so great right. She's just the nicest person and she's i'm so excited for her next book. Oh good okay. So what do you have next. So this is my very i mean. I love all these books but like this is one of my mary. May the it's meet me in another life by katrina. Sylvie which comes out on april twenty seven. This is one that you actually mentioned as a recommendation for people who the invisible life of eddie larue when you were analyst for book club for then if you're like jonesing for time travellers wife rita like i think this is the perfect pick two. It's about two people named thawra and sandy. They meet as young college students. Something happens and suddenly they meet again in another life and they have different roles in the book keeps going back through. They keep regenerating and having the same lives want the same lives but keeping the same spot and sometimes their father and daughter. Sometimes they're boyfriend and girlfriend husband wife teacher and student doctor and patient and so as you go along and they keeping reborn into these lives where they know each other and they have like the same people around them. In different roles they start to remember things about their past lives and each time they're reborn they remember more and more and you have to find out like why this is happening to them. Why they're stuck in this one spot. I oh i loved. It gave me chills especially the end. It made me cry which is very rare so So this is one that i read after your recommendation and it did not work for me way it worked for you and i'm not sure i think i felt like i love surprising ending but i it felt to me like it didn't quite lead up to what it was trying to do like it. I don't know there was a weird disconnect for me and i haven't quite figured out how exactly to explain why didn't quite work but i get like it's definitely at least that much about it like she did a lot in that book one of the things that i love about it. Why love it even more. Is that when you go back and read it. It's one of those books were like. That's one of that happened. And that's what that means and that's why that person is doing that thing. 'cause you just like all these people are just going about but they actually mean things you know. Everybody liked all the same books that will be so boring. You don't want to spend the next ten minutes just like fighting about that one book. No i'm really. I'm really bad at confrontation. What do you have next. My next book is a book. That like i feel like i have to proceed again with expectations thing went by saying i had zero expectations for this one which i think does have to do with why i loved it so much. But it's called great circle by maggie ships dead. Have you gotten a chance to check it out. I haven't but so many people are recommending this one. Yes so it's a pretty hefty book which is partly what makes it so great just because like when you find something that's delightful and there's a whole bunch of it like how you know when you can just like feast on it for days or hours in your case like how great is that It's about two women. One of whom is sort of like an early aviation history pilot lady and the other is like a modern day. Gosh what's a good analogy for. She's like a was. She is a super famous woman for having been sort of like a teenage protagonist in like a hunger games type franchise of movies and since of trying to rehab her image after some stuff happens and she's asked if she wants to play the pilot lady in like a bio pic version of that pilot lady story so it jumps back and forth and i mean this is something we even talked about in our eddie larue penalty often with books like that. There's a time line that you love much more than the other one you know and then when you get to the other time line you're sort of like okay. I'll slug through this just because it's worth getting to the other one again but in this one like both timelines were equally great. This book kind of has everything like span. So many different places and times and themes. And you know it's one of those books where you'll read about a piece of art and you desperately want to google it because you're so interested to see it for yourself and then you remember like oh no this is fiction. It doesn't actually exist but it's just that well written that it's just like such a pleasure. Wait for people to read that one. And i'm going to have to eat it this weekend. You made a good read it this weekend. Tell me what you think after. It takes you like ten minutes to get through. What's next my first pick for may. Fourth is realm breaker by victoria. Have yard eight yard. I don't actually know how surname. I'm sorry It is a fantastic. I and why a fantasy series about a rag tag group of both humans and immortals. This was so much. I just latched onto this and just loved every second of it There's an assassin squire an immortal and then there's the secret daughter of a pirate and an immortal send together. They're fighting under armies monsters and even more things because they are trying to keep the pirate daughters evil uncle from a spindle and turning their realm into a world of ashes and there was something. This is a mild spoiler. I guess if you don't like this kind of thing but there's something that happened in the middle that made me say marley whatever happens i did not see it coming. I was like i was so excited. Oh that's great. That sounds really good. Tell us again it's called. It's called rome breaker rome rigor okay. Cool what are you got x. Last one of miles today is version zero by david eun and it comes out on may twenty fifth. It's about a twenty something tech with max. He works in silicon valley for this company called wren w. r. e. n. They are one of the world's largest social media companies. It's supposed to be like facebook and one day when he's working on this project he discovers that ren is collecting and sharing its users private information in like very seriously shady ways and so. He thinks he's helping the company by going to this meeting and saying look. I found this problem but instead he is unceremoniously fired from his job and blacklisted. From all the other tech companies who might have hired him. They're saying like oh you know he's he's a problem. Obviously they're covering something up So max's best friend who also works for the company. Akiko and his other best friends. Jane who is accused boyfriend decide. They're going to teach a lesson. You know they start doing all different. Kinds of things and their technological anarchy has grown to like a global scale and attracts the attention of a reclusive billionaire who used to be the owner of one of the largest tech companies. He still is but like he's recruiting. Nobody talks to him anymore. Lives on an island. And it makes also makes them more target hunted by rennes owners and their competitors who wish to silence them before they make a difference in the world for the better because nobody wants. That sounds like a wild ride. It was really really fun. It's it is quite dark reminds me a lot of we could be heroes by mike chen which earlier this year. Except it's much much darker. But i love on the screen. It was really fun. Ooh liberty you just gave us like a gazillion late. I'm so excited about all of those books. Yeah liberty hertie. Thank you so much. It was really a pleasure to do this with your thank you for inviting me in just a minute. 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Visit progressive dot com today national annual average auto insurance savings by new customer survey twenty nineteen potential savings will vary discounts vary and are not available in all states and situations several years ago now. My mother taught me a cast iron skillet and while i must note that i am always grateful. My mother buys me kitchen things. Hi mom thinks for all the nice kitchen stuff. I was a little skeptical about the cast. Iron skillet casino like heavy. The handle gets hot. There's all these weird rules it was like. Is this really an amazing thing. I have come to love it very much but we thought we would have a guest to help us clear some of that stuff. He is a cast iron. He spends half his time electrocuting. Rust off vintage bands and the other half making videos about seasoning for his hundreds of thousands of tiktok fires. He is at orphaned iron on that app. But is matt bright in real life matt. Hello so you are a big believer in cast iron personally love for everything from like. Searing me to dotting veggies. The fact that i can like start something on the stove top or put it in the oven. I even made cinnamon rolls with their recently. I mean it is kind of amazing. They're very versatile. Is there anything that it's not good for. Like i've heard a lot about acid things that you're not supposed to use like tomato sauce or whatever and a cast right. Some people tell you not to tomato based foods because the seasoning off the pan and that really only matters if you're gonna leave the pan dirty after you've cooked for hours on end but if he took like tomato sauce or something and then wash the pan after you're finished or completely fine so the key is just to be like a clean person is what you're saying. Okay so tell me about seasoning. Does that even actually need. So basically if you have a bare piece of iron skillet or whatever seasoning as literally just a thin coat of hardened or polymer is oil over top of the ir and that's what makes it nonstick. Then how do you season it. You'd like heat up some oil on top. Basically you just wash it with darndest for whatever to get any previous oils off and then you would warm it on your stove top. Just until it's warm to the touch and you would put whatever cooking while you on the entire fan including the handle on the outside and then you wipe off all the excess oil and you bake it and you you bake it and how do you wipe off the excess oil. Can i use paper towel. I've heard that's not good for it. I recommend the blue shop paper towels because they don't fall apart like on the suit so and you're saying soap is cool Because lake my mother. I think would be pretty freaked out to hear you say that s not just not as pasta once was and that's where that mindset came from was sixty seventy years ago. Okay so i have a couple of friends who have actually gotten their first cast irons like since the pandemic started. What do you think they need to know. A lot of the companies. now that have like a cre- seasoning like lodge for example. They should just and strip that seasoning off and redo themselves. How do you do that. Well you can do it a few ways. There's a bunch of like you can use electrolysis. Thanks which is outrageous. If you only have one pant people just spray. Their pan with like a Easy off oven cleaner and then you can tie the trash bag for a few days and it'll be all the seasoning also and then he just scrub it on your own. Is that something that you'd recommend for people who have had a cast iron for a really long time to only if it's new and already pre-treated. Yes there's a lot of build up on stuff. I usually recommend that people strip and start over. That's really interesting. I feel like what. I use my cast. Iron often end up setting off the smoke alarm. What am i doing wrong. Heat is too high so okay but isn't that kind of the point of cast iron is that it takes better than say like a dutch oven or something while you can. You can beat them up if you're gonna like cirrus day or whatever but usually low or medium setting on your stove all you need because cast iron retains the welded actually stays hotter than a normal. So how many cast irons do you have currently have around three thousand. I thought you were going to say three hundred. I was going to be surprised. I bought eight hundred visas in tennessee s months back. Now that's really cool. I love that paul matthew. Thank you so much. This is really to chat with you. I appreciate it all right. That's today before we go. Let's listen to a voicemail from a nerd out listener as you know even asking for some sort of long term homework. We're asking you to reflect on something that you started during the pandemic that you want to keep doing on the other side. Let's nicholson creators. As clear from dallas texas and one thing that i'm going to be holding onto that i started doing artwork in the middle of munich's because i've never really been able to focus well when it's just audio happening and so now i do like cross-stitching in i crochet paint by numbers. I do little coloring games on my phone and especially during like remote meetings guides totally okay. Nobody's upset about that because he can't even see my face usually but it really helps me so that's something that i've been holding onto. Oh my gosh are during meetings calera. I love it. that's brilliant. We would love to hear your and ammika holdovers as well if he got them. All right. that's it for today. Oh also don't forget that's book club panel chat is right around the corner so in addition to the pandemic holdovers. If you have thoughts or feelings were opinions or facts about here. Nasc- send them over. We'd love to hear him. Just record yourself on your phone. The file to note at podcast gmail.com. This episode was produced by me and isabel carter. Our executive producer is new. Act week. we'll see you next week several years.
Best of: Greta Gerwig & Molly Yeh: Funfetti!
"Bairo Seattle I'm Rachel Bell and this is your last meal a show that famous people and the stories behind the foods. They love most today on the program actor and director Greta Gerwig. I had read on the show exactly two years ago after her film lady bird came out lady bird received received forty one major award nominations and thirteen awards and it was one of my favorite favorite movies that came out that year and now Greta has a new film she directs the Louisa May alcott classic little women so it seems the perfect time to refresh this episode. I don't know what you guys do for a living or if you do creative work but have you ever listened or look back on your old work. It is painful. So we went back through the episode spruced up and we're calling it a new and improved rerun and a lot can happen in two years. My other Guest is molly Yay creator of the cooking blog mining and molly is now the host of the food network so girl meets farm which is already in its fifth season. Molly grew up in Chicago with with a Chinese American dad and a Jewish mom and now she lives on her husband's family's sugar beet farm in grand forks North Dakota so her food is often a whimsical mishmash of all all of these cultures. She's done Scallon Pancake Hala and Passover brisket hot dish tater tots but molly also makes these gorgeous cakes. And that's why she's he's here today to talk about the early Nineties Classic Fun Feddie. Molly is a tireless tester and she tried nine different types of sprinkles and three different cake recipes to perfect her fund on Freddie Cake Glass of milk will get to fund feddie cake later in the episode. But right now the last meal of Gregor Wake my last meal would be. My favorite. Food is macaroni and cheese. And My best friend Sarah Whitman Salkin makes makes a macaroni and cheese casserole. That's perfect. She always makes a roo with flower. She's explaining that that's that's the important part of it and then she does something I think we're always develops this perfect crust on top and then there's extra bread crumbs on top of that and she's made it for for me many times for my birthday and stuff and it's it's my absolute favorite thing to eat so there were definitely that my there's a ice ice cream company in New York called ample hills that makes. I don't even think it's ice cream but they make it with. I WANNA say they make it with condensed milk so technically it's called a custard and it's the Creamy hist richest most after ice cream. You've ever had. It's it's upsetting league. Good what's your favorite flavor. There's a flavor call. Do We gooey. which is It's like yellow cake batter later in ice cream. Yes so those things I mean. There's probably more but but definitely those things I like that. They're both kind of adult versions of childhood favorites. So it's like you have Mac and cheese and then you have yellow cake batter basically. Yeah that's right. Oh maybe I could also include in my l. cake batter thing Fun Feddie cake phone ferry that you buy from the grocery store the Pillsbury Fun feddie with they have the cream cheese icing which is amazing. It's not like too sweet That cake to is that something that you had birthdays growing up. Yeah Yeah we always have fun feddie. My mom would always make fun fatty. It's still feels like home. I'm actually weirdly not a huge sweets person but those that fun Feddie cake is so oh specific. It's like a it's like a Proust's Madeleine for me and I've seen people are trying to make homemade versions online but it's really hard but the sprinkles sprinkles homemade versions and funny. Yeah that's just you gotta get the box. You can't make healthy. I mean it's what you so you couldn't possibly get all those colors you can but it's hard really I have not gone down the rabbit hole of fun feddie homemade confetti fatty but but the good for that for exploring this yeah so did you get to ask what you wanted for your birthday or did your mom snow and she would make that every year or every year was it like what kind of cake do you want. What no I mean? I always wanted that cake in. That was the case that was being made. It was both together. Yeah did you have other birthday traditions in your family. I mean we'd always have a there would always be like a family party we had the you're special today play. Do you know that it's a red plate. That says your especial today around the outside. I think they made it in the late seventies early eighties. I'm they make different sizes of it. I have since found one that I can happen. My adult life And and you always get the your special today plate at breakfast lunch and dinner. That's awesome so wait now that you have your own do you use it every day. No I I only only bring it out on when it's special day when I when I am actually special that day. That's sweet and so when you use it. Does somebody usually cook for you on that day day or do you just like make your own toast and put it on the plate. I just put my eggs on that. I don't WanNa have a good. Nobody's cooking for me in that way but But I use it. Do you guys know about the you are special today played Aaron. Have you ever heard of this plates. No I don't know what this is so it's shiny vibrant red plate. That says you you are special today in white around the rim and it says it twice so that no matter which way the plate is facing you can still read the message and the font is what I would describe as Gaelic Font. And there's a little flower design in the center of the place so the authentic version of his plate is made by a German Ceramic Company called Welter Stock and this company was established in eighteen. Thirty two I couldn't figure out exactly when this plate was established but on the website this is what they say about the origin of the you are special today plates. I did not expect it to go. This deep when some of the I immigrants to America from Europe is like a mayflower story. When some of the I I immigrants to America arrived from Europe they often carried with them few personal belongings? It was common have very little in the way of formal dinner. Where with the exception of maybe one beautiful brightly colored colored plates which soon became a prized possession? This is where the red play tradition begins. Since the special plate was reserved for special occasions it became a way to mark lice important important milestones. Okay let's get back to Greta last meal I. I'm not a great cook. I can't I can cook but I am not. It's not the thing that I would say. P nobody is describing me as a great cook. Nobody says like the thing you should know about credit. She's a great cook. That's never ever happened. That's never been uttered but I love it as a way of showing love. I love it as a as a gift in particularly my friend. Sarah who who always makes makes me the macaroni and cheese birth August it's August fourth and it's a to make macaroni and cheese casserole in the middle of August in New York. When it's hot and it you know you can have a wall unit of air conditioning? But it's going to be really hot in that kitchen and I think it's such a generous thing and she she. She does that and she. Also one of our other friends had a baby and she just brought over just so much food that she'd made that could all just be like warmed up and it was was easily easy to make and I think it's a nice way to show love. We all need a Sarah. I know actually we all do need us. Sarah Yeah this one goes out to US era. I now see knows she knows how I feel the googled your name and just the word food. All that kept coming up was that you shared a thanksgiving recipe this year. Dad's stuffing yeah. Oh God God that's gotTa be part of my last meal to the last meals just getting more carbon. Well that's my true love as carbon dairies. He just came to New York and with my mom and for Thanksgiving they He made it and he so he made that recipe again. It's the Julia Child old recipe. It's always got all of Senate which is unusual for staffing and people always say mom lives which is which is Great Eh. It's it's it's the best and it's always so exciting when it starts going and then I'm always stealing bites from it as it's cooking is it green obser- black black olives breath that's even more rogue for some reason. I know get ready. Make that recipe. No it's so good though what else is in it. I saw sausage. There's sausage edge. It's there's sausages. There's some chopped up capers which I don't like regular capers but I don't mind in this I mean it's the regular bread and and everything else onions garlic. I don't know I mean I just chop stuff and put them in. Because you're the best in the world I'm the best helper and the best eater. Peter my dad is a good cook actually and my mom but my mom and I are like chefs or repair. Everything you know cooking shows where they always have bowls of things just ready. We're the people making the Bulls of things they call it me. Send plus what is that again me some plus yet. That's like when you see cooking shows and there's all the tiny balls I I think it might mean like in. Its place or something like that. But it's like being super prepped. I see yes that's sort of how I the Blue Apron's arrive in. Its place. Blue Apron is French for everything in its place. Yeah exactly the you just little known fact. Oh it breaks. It's my heart to have to say this to you but we already did a macaroni and cheese episode celebrity librarian. Nancy Pearl also wanted a gooey cheesy easy macaroni and cheese casseroles for her last meal and she makes a recipe from the joy of cooking. So I recommend you listened to that episode if you haven't already but for this episode episode. We are going to focus on the classic late eighties early nineties. Boxed birthday cake fun. Feddie a white cake chock full of Rainbow Sprinkles ankles when we come back the trials and tribulations of making a homemade confetti cake. Apparently it's not as easy as it seems I chat with food food network. TV host and one of my favorite food bloggers molly who is known for her gorgeous cakes and incredible attention to detail. Molly even makes her own sprinkles and as a a former and I guess if I was still in school current teacher's pet I absolutely love this about her. Oh Hi guys. It's me again this time with my shoulder pads on and I got my briefcase here because I M Business Rachel and business. Rachel is here to tell you that there is a rare opportunity to Advertise on your last meal for the first time in more than two years. We have space for new advertisers. So if you own a business or you have a friend that owns a business and you're interested in advertising on your last meal get in touch. We'll tell you all the details. You can message me are Bell R. B. E. L. L. E. AT BONNEVILLE DOT COM that's B. O. N. N. E. TV. I L. L. E. DOT COM so our bell at Bonneville DOT COM or even to send me a message through my instagram. Your last meal podcast and I'll get it over to the sales staff and and hopefully we can wear shoulder pads together. Oh Hi guys. It's me again this time with my shoulder pads on and I got my briefcase here because I am Business Rachel and business. Rachel is here to tell you that there is a rare opportunity to advertise on your last meal for the first time in more than two years. We have space for new advertisers. So if you own a business or you have a friend that owns a business and you're interested in being sponsor on this James Beard nominated podcast your last meal get in touch. We'll tell you all the details. You can message me are Bell L. R. B. E. L. L. E. AT BONNEVILLE DOT com. That's B. O. N. N. E. V. I L. L. E. DOT COM are bell at Bonneville dot com or even to send me a message through my instagram. Your last meal podcast and I'll get it over to the sales staff and hopefully we can wear shoulder pads together. Ah for her last meal. Greta GERWIG wants her friend. Sarah's macaroni and cheese casserole she she also wants Louis Gooey. Butter cake ice cream from ample hills. Creamery it's an ice cream shop that started in New York City now the location in Los Angeles and a couple of Florida a couple of years ago. I was walking down the street in Brooklyn and I saw an ample hills so we had to go in immediately because I wanted to try credits favorite ice cream shop and it. It did not disappoint. They do all kinds of crazy flavors which I love. I got the munchies which is a pretzel infused ice cream. I'll eat anything pretzel. Flavored and there were chunks of Ritz crackers potato tatum chips pretzels and crushed. EMINEM's but back to grade is less meal. She also wants her. Dad's stuffing and fun cake from the box. Pillsbury has been making fun fatty since one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. It's a white cake with handfuls of cheerful Tearful Rainbow Sprinkles mixed into the batter. And if you're a child of the late eighties in the early ninety s you know that. This cake went perfectly with the hyper color and puffy paint t shirts that we were birthday parties and as I discussed earlier. She wants that. Boxed cake mix that. She grew up eating hunter birthday. But lots of food bloggers and instagram bakers have gotten fancy and they make their own fund. Petty cake and one of those fancy pants belongs to Molly. Molly is hosted. The food network show girl needs farm. She's the author of the Cookbook Molly on the range and if you follow her blog my name's ea you know that molly is a very skilled and creative baker. Her cakes are works of arts. One of the things that I really like about Mali's work which is something that I admire and Julia Child as well is that she is a tireless tester so when molly was developing fund fifty cake she tested nine different kinds of sprinkles wrinkles just the sprinkles alone in order to perfect her homemade fund. Feddie cake all of the best birthday parties had fun feddie cake and they weren't like layer cakes. They were a sheet cake usually made from the box and that was like the gold standard of birthday cakes. I feel for any child L. to grew up in the late eighties nineties. I think the generation is key because I was talking to some people my mom's age and they didn't even really know what I was talking about. Well Yeah it's on Gosh hold on me. Can I do a quick Google search to see your. Maybe you know this like when fund said he was actually invented this. It's one thousand nine hundred nine. Oh hurt my birth year. Okay Yeah So. That's that makes a whole lot of sense that how you share a birth year with fun fatty that makes it even more special. It's just that's totally assign nine. What is the key to making a successful fund? Take home because you had a lot of trial and error. Yes so there are a few very important elements about fun feddie cake that's made from scratch and the first thing that I want everybody to know that I feel like it's kind of a misconception in the world of cake begging is that funny cake is not just sprinkles in allocate it requires a specific type of sprinkle because not any type of sprinkle will do you. I tried a lot of like naturally colored sprinkles I tried to use sanding sugars which the color just melted out while it was baking and then same thing with non perils those itsy-bitsy little balls that are really bright and really crunchy. No it worked really well was homemade sprinkles goals and then the best ones though the best in the easiest ones to use are those cylinders that you get from the ice cream Sunday section and they're artificially officially colored as well which is important now those what. The reason that those are important is because those are going to retain their color in the batter like during the baking process. Ask those are going to be the brightest now. The cake is the other element that's important. Obviously because when you have a bunch of these colors dispersed throughout the cake you want them to be bright and you want them to pop against a bright white cake in order to make the brightest white cake possible. It's important to number one use only whites and then when you take away the folks you're GonNa take away some of that richness so I- combated that by adding oil so clear. flavourless is oil. Which added more fat? took the place of the jokes that also but it didn't add any colored the cake and then another thing that's like that does kind if two jobs is using clear imitation vanilla and number one. That's not gonna add that Brown color that like a natural vanilla would add and then at the same time. It's also going to add sort of like that nostalgic flavor that was so unique about the boxed fund fatty cake. All gotta keep going talking for hours a uh-huh but another thing that's important is that you have a like an even dispersal of sprinkles so when you cut into the I have a few tasks runs out cut into it. And then the sprinkles would sink all the way down to the bottom and that was really annoying And so so that that required me to play with the consistency of the cake batter for this year. Definitely GonNA WANNA butter based cake because it's going to end the butter flavor but then it's also going to create thicker batter. That's GONNA suspend those sprinkles in a much more even manner so hearing how hard it is to get it exactly right homemade omeday actually makes me have a lot of respect for Pillsbury now because you just think oh. It's just this box cake. They really had to figure out how to make this work at home. Just from a mix so that the sprinkles dispersed Stephen Lee and all of that yet and I once heard this hilarious thing about cake mixes and I don't know if this was true specifically for fun steady but when cake cake mixes came out. Apparently all unions who do is add water it was too easy for people so it didn't sell very well and then when they added in a few more steps like add the oil and the eggs suddenly it was like people could have more ownership over making this cake. They didn't feel like it was such an easy way out. You you love for goals so much that you incorporated them into your wedding. Yes so after we tied the knot and as we were doing our professional will win and most wedding guests would throw rice at the couple. Are Friends through sprinkles at us. We made little individual packets of rainbow sprinkles and even like a year or two later. You could see random little rainbow sprinkles in the cracks of the ground on the farm. You always keep quite a sprinkle collection and how many how many types do you have any given time. I Here I guess I could just walk over to my sprinkle collection. So sprinkles are like my favorite souvenir to get whenever I go traveling because even just like a gross restored generic sprinkle in another country is going to be different. So I'm looking right now. I have I have some sprinkles from Italy and there are a lot longer and skinnier and there's a lot of pink in them. I have if some from Israel and I'm kind of just doing a rough estimate I don't know probably like twenty to twenty five jars of sprinkles are here. Ah Out of them probably about fifteen stale bad but I just love looking at them. Yeah on that note I told Greta about you and that you make the cake from scratch. And she was both confused in a little bit horrified. She was like no no at only come from a box. That is the way it's supposed to be so I was wondering if the homemade version Ersan tastes like the boxer too good. Oh my gosh first of all. I'm really happy that you said my name and Greta Gerwig uh-huh and maybe maybe one day allow me to make her a homemade fund cake. But okay I I do think about this. I think about how you know special. The boxed cake was to childhood and that that's why that that acclimatisation labor is there is because it has the flavor But one thing I like about the the fun that I make is that it's just slightly denser so it gives you a little bit more to to sink your teeth into I think the flavor is amped up a little bit more. My number one goal. When I'm making cakes is that they've gotta being moist like a dry cake is my biggest fear aside from death so so so it is moist? It is really flavorful full but I think the texture is a little bit more satisfying in the box. Cake I can. I can tell from the pictures on your blog. How moist it isn't isn't how densities and that? It looked so good like I got a little drool early in my mouth is looking at the camera. Yeah success because that's the thing with the box cakes they are always very fluffy so fluffy and it's almost like you're eating too much air when you're having a bite of it and this is just a way to get more in your mouth it was so you've major on sprinkles how do you make sprinkles all their easy. They just take a lot of time and a lot of space. It's essentially elite royal icing. So you just mix egg whites and powdered sugar than whatever food colorings you want and actually if you WANNA go full on all natural natural sprinkles. This is the best way to do it because you can buy all natural food coloring and then you color your egg white sugar mixture and then you you put it into a piping bag with teensy tiniest little piping tip and you pipe out will you could either do little lines. Lines are probably the easiest and then once they dry after a day you cut them up or if you have a lot of time on your hands or if you want to sit in front of the TV and pipe out. itsy-bitsy little dots. Lots you could do that. Is it worth making them or did you just do it because you like to make the effort to make everything from scratch. I mean if you like that type of thing. It's totally fun. It's relatively low maintenance for like what you're getting. I don't know I don't do that for most of the fun. Study cakes that I make take I will use store-bought sprinkles and I buy sprinkles in bulk these days but you know if you really want to go that extra mile. It's just it's fun to be able to say like oh I made these sprinkles are another thing you could do. I don't know how well this would work in fun fatty but a few years ago I made Cayenne sprinkles goals just added a little bit of a kick and you put those over chocolate ice cream and of course when something old becomes new again when something vintage becomes uh-huh modern. We often like to put new twists on it so I wanted to know what molly saw for the future of fun fatty you know. I think the future of fun unfed and don't steal this idea. Anybody listening is like different. Flavors of sprinkles incorporating may be Different spices into sprinkles and SORTA fusing the line between a sprinkle mix and a seasoning mix or like a sprinkle mix in a Duca and adding nuts in different flavor. CARDAMOM seeds may be Mike Sesame things like that. I think that's genius. I can totally see a Bagel with instead of the seeds on top having sesame seeds. Poppy seed flavored fun. feddie like a savory fund fatty on a Bagel. That'd be so good. Let's do it and so cute. Is there a way to have the base. Not Be the royal icing so it wouldn't be so sweet I don't know maybe like baking something like making almost. It's not cracker you know. My aunt has a freeze drier. Maybe we could just freeze dry. A bunch of stuff and see how it fun studies. I like okay. You said week is like I'm in a totally come over. And we're just going to pop on by I in his own party. Yes a savory and Fatty party I love that thank thank you so much for chatting with me about fun. This is so fun feddie thing. Yeah we're GONNA take a quick break when we come back more with Greta Gerwig so tell us about her. Recent I magical meeting with Justin Timberlake Greta Gerwig Golden Globe. Winning Film Lady Bird is set in two thousand and two Sacramento so Greta wanted to get a bunch of popular music from that time. I'm to play in the film. I loved reading about all of the personal notes that you sent to the musicians whose music in the film Dave Matthews Atlanta's US more set and Justin Timberlake and I also wrote a letter to Like Johnny to Franco in Steve Sondheim and Stephen Sondheim. I don't call him Steve. I just issues that like as if he and I've never met him but yeah I mean I wrote all these letters to really like try to explain to them. What what the movie wise and explain why I wanted to use the music because You know they have to give approval obviously if of letting you use their songs and it was set in such a specific take time in place and I thought that the music could really help. Draw the audience into that. Did you get personalized letters back or did you get letters from their people. No I never. I forgot letters back. I just heard yes. They're fine with it. which is like all you really need? You just WanNa Justin timberlake signature. And he would not give that to you oh he he withheld hold it but I got to meet him so yeah I guess a meet him. a couple of weeks ago. It was very exciting and he obviously remembered that he gave me permission to use uses song and I said thank you very much in person. You wasn't coming over to sue. You know we were at the same event and I very darkly went up to him and said Mr Timberlake thank you. And he's called me Justin. Actually you might not have said that. That might have been just a thing. I'm I made up my. I think he's a coma just in my mind. He's a communist wiggs last meal read. His new film is in theaters. Now it's called little women. I saw it on Christmas. You should go see it to thanks to our guests. Molly you can watch her. Show girl meets farm on the Food Network and Victor and pick up her cookbook. It's called Molly on the range. And it's one of those rare cases where a cookbook has great recipes but it also oh has a sense of humor. This episode was originally produced by Aaron Mason and me and recently edited and made far less embarrassing by Laura Scott. Our theme music is by Prom Queen her album. The Midnight Vale is now available on Vinyl so you can buy a record or digital download searching Prom Queen on ban camp and of course if you have a quick moment we would love it if he would leave a review or just a quick five star rating on Apple podcasts or stitcher. You can follow along on instagram. I'm your last meal podcast. I'm Rachel Bell and this is your last is Neil her new film lady bird is it. Greta Gerwig Film Lady Bird. Greta Gerwig Film Lady Bird is her fantastic film lady bird. It's so weird so weird can give me that again. He said Berg. I I keep wanting to say lady bird. It's so hard Greta Gerwig Film Lady Eighty Lady Bird Lady Bird Greta Gerwig film lady bird Gerwig gear wig Gerwig the crazy. GERWIG Gert Gear Gerwig. Yeah okay stay for the end of the episode over here. Cut footage of Rachel's stroke.
Before Greta, there was Severn
"This is ABC podcast. This is all wrong. I shouldn't be up here. I I should be back in school on the other side of the ocean yet. You all come to US young people for hope. How dare you you burg has been leading a string of global climate strikes people are suffering. People are dying and tie excuse systems for collapsing you know name and what she stands for hundreds of millions of other people but before Greta there was seven sixteen sir. I'm here to speak all generations to come. I am here to speak on behalf of the starving children around the world whose cries go unheard unheard. I'm here to speak for the countless animals dying across his pitch because they have nowhere left to go in nine hundred ninety two. She was the voice of a new global anxiety about the state of the environment and for a moment everyone was listening so what went wrong on Stephen Stockwell and I'm Angela appear and today on the signal story of the last time a teenager tried to save the world from itself so it feels like we're at these curious moment right way there's always hope but also all these despair about the problem of climate change like on the one hand you have new reports all the time warning about the urgent need to swerve around world leaders being told you have to do more and really only some of them being convinced that message but on the other hand there is this unprecedented move but millions of people joining climate strikes around the world with Britain leading the pack think they hear us we will make them heroes been here before the twenty seven years ago. Canadian twelve year olds seven Suzuki gave pretty similar speech to the UN hello. I'm seventies Yuki speaking for ECO the environmental children's organization where a group of twelve and thirteen year olds trying to make a difference. She wasn't talking about climate change specifically the same themes are there. She's talking about Ping afraid to go into the sun and also mass extinction right and there's that same blunt accused the tree time that Greta uses like hey adult. Stop screwing it up for everyone. One younger than you parents should be able to comfort their children by saying everything's going to be all right. It's not the end of the world and we're and we're doing the best we can. Dan But I don't think you can say that to us anymore. Are we even on your list of priorities but how does a teenager to get to that point well. my parents are environmentalists and in the nineteen eighty s a lot of people were talking about environmental problems it was actually a very popular issue and even politicians and leaders were calling themselves. Environmentalists and greenies became became really worried about the environment so I started a club with my friends. Were in grade five. I was nine years old because their selves Echo the Environmental Children's organization innovation and we just started out by having meetings with tea and cookies. We do little fundraisers. We like to make jewelry into foul and raise money book sales. We also raised money to buy water filter for the pen and People Sarawak whose water was polluted because of logging. We're able to do that so this must have taken up like all of your time right yeah. We can't really ten years old but I mean what else are. We going to do a a lot of fun. We're doing these kinds of England actor. Few years. We heard about a huge meeting. That was gonNA take place in Rio de Janeiro. This was going to be a big gathering of heads of state the largest gathering of heads of state ever held they were going to talk about environment and development and really going to set the stage for the twenty first century and we thought thought wow you know there's going to be all these old men sitting around talking about our future so he's how we should go you know with not not too much knowledge about all of the INS and outs of that kind of conference so we fund raiser trae year we appeal out our community for a year to send five of a to real so in Nineteen ninety-two seven wins the Rio which was run by the UN Adad David Suzuki use these he's like noted Canadian environmentalist with He was speaking on the sidelines be started giving up. Hoffy speaking time to seven and other kids from club and after two weeks of the best we first of all became very practice at giving our message in each of us had a five minute speech that we were honing constantly and after two weeks we were invited to speak to the because someone had dropped out of the plenary session so we actually able to rush to the UN and and I was able to give my speech what you do makes me cry at night you grown up so you love us but I challenge you. Please make AAC your actions. Reflect your words. Thank you so you weren't afraid or you didn't feel that pressure in a in a negative way. You just felt steely. I guess absolutely I look back at that beat beat those captured and I can't believe it but I remember feeling so sure of myself and I knew that this was this was the moment that I'd be waiting emporer. I would go ready. I did not feel any pressure or any fear. I just knew exactly what I had to do. I was ready. I guess how much of what was animating mating you at that time was a quite gripping anxiety about the future. Oh yes absolutely I was. I mean when I said in my speech what you do you make me cry at night that was not exaggeration was very sensitive child. I cared deeply about animals and plants. You know kids love Obama the adore animals and as we get older you know we lose that kind of passionate love because we realized that the world is full of sadness. The world is full of grace and not just black and white so we we we have to take care of our families. Eventually we assume responsibilities and so we lose that kind of sensitivity when it comes to injustice and caring for the Earth so the theory goes I guess that being charged gives you these extra license to speak about the state of the punt because obviously they're the ones who have to live on it and just generally the kids are most sensitive live to injustice and it can really get under the skin yeah also you would think that being so young would protect you from having to do too many personal attacks but seven and Greta Greta have both copped it from conservative voices in the media. The climate hysteria movement is not about science. If it were about science it would be led by scientists interests rather than by politicians and the mentally ill Swedish child who is being exploited by herons and by the International. Where is the mass extinction. I I want to know what the everything she said is a lie day. Queues been lied to. She has been terrified. Child abuse reports now in Europe where kids are getting anti anxiety the medication. They believe they're going to die. She is the Greta Effects. He's causing and instilling fear in millions of kids around the world. I heard some people now shine consoles her meltdown speech to the United Nations climate event. We will not let you get away with is waking up and you don't find that Schilling and the attacks that I am seeing I mean they are just taking you know I mean when I met David. Hog this summer are he's one of the Parkland Florida student survivors of the shooting last year and one of the founders of the march for our lives in Washington you know he he was still of course traumatized by the violence but almost equally seems like he was traumatized traumatized by the attacks on his person through social media. people saying that he didn't exist that he was an actor that he was paid. You know these kinds of Those kinds of attacks hurt so much that adults would have that response to children who survived a school shooting. I guess you know do you worry about Greta tune bug in being on the receiving end of this yeah. I I worry about her. Of course you know. I think we all have to worry about Greta. I mean she's already put ourselves out there so incredibly and she's delighted deal adding a response to all these trolls is just amazing. I mean she's dealing with it so well. She's just calling it out. She says wow they're scared. They're afraid of the a young girl so the most interesting thing about talking to seven that I really didn't expect this disappointment right. Basically it springs from this idea that her generation. She's the nine now screwed up. I mean we failed. We we have the problem. Get so much worth earth and so much more difficult for us to address. We did not act after real. How do you explain that failure like. Why would you say that that first attempt at pushed it. I guess you are on the crest of styled. I think that's the question I think that's very important analysis that has to happen happen right now because I feel that there's a real parallel to where we are today and where we were thirty years ago twenty seven years ago we were here were ready. We wanted change. There were people. who were you know everybody was on board? It seems and then we went in the absolute opposite visit direction in the nineties and the two thousand I mean we had the rise of yes we had the rise of the anti-globalization movement and but the the conversation was distracted distracted and while we weren't paying attention because everybody we thought everybody had signed off you know maybe that's why we went in we we. He went opposite way so I think this time. I don't think there's GonNa be a moment where we're we can't keep on protesting where we can't ah on holding our politicians feet to the fire because it's GonNa be hard and it's going to be very hard to achieve the forty five percent percent emissions reduction in less than eleven years. It's going to be very hard for us to achieve a completely carbon neutral nee society by twenty fifty. It's going to be very unpopular is gonna be really hard and we're not going to be able to let off the pressure and that's one of the things that I think we have to really kind of realized from last time and make sure it doesn't change this time. I don't think it's any one group of peoples failure but collectively me we have failed we have failed as a species to make a collective move to stop climate change and we cannot afford to make the take so basically they underestimated the size of the task last time yeah and the strength of the fossil fuel lobby in resisting calls for Change. She also also has this idea that one of the missing pieces of the puzzle then and now is the voice of mothers. This is something that I think has not truly being harnessed yet or or I should rather. I should say unleashed is the power and the passion of parents and especially of mother. You know you think about how much you love your child child or how much mothers love their their child. I mean we would not only die for our children. We would kill for our children and so we're now in a situation where there are entire social infrastructure as human beings is diminishing the options of our children in the future about seven David Suzuki now watching Greg these eerily familiar path but they seem genuinely Hukou that it's different this time round. She has punctured the ceiling. You know she's just gone through and taking it to a different level and got the message that we've been trying to get across across for years listened to the science listened to the science. Don't listen all these economists and and corporations listen to what the scientists are Sir. My real reason for maintaining hope is first of all you know. We don't know the future. We don't know what will happen next year. Two years ago no one had ever heard of Greta Thornburgh and now she's completely changed the conversation. She's elevated the climate conversation to a level. We've never seen before. She's amazing. We don't know what will happen. Second Human Ingenuity I just I I believe so much in in human ingenuity we we are so capable of so much invention problem solving finally I would say I'm hopeful because nature is incredibly resilient. We give nature nature will rebound now. We did have to give it that. The world is waking up and change is coming. What did you like it or not. Thank you and that's the signal we will be back innovate tomorrow. We'll catch it in by sea up. You've been listening to an. 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"Something to note. All myths have many versions and variations for this episode. We've selected those. We fell to the most dramatic and entertaining and supplemented them with additional research into german. Myths and traditions are myths may not always be the version. You're familiar with but we hope you'll enjoy them june. It was midnight and minna. Wagner was drowning. The young woman had gone for a late swim in the rhine but the current had pulled her far from her tranquil swimming spot and dashed her knee on a stone in the shallows now it was dragging her straight toward the rocks at the base of towering cliff. Nobody no one was there to answer calls. And she felt certain the last thing she would hear was terrifying pounding of in her ears. But then she heard something else a voice echoing melodic in the night. It sounded like it was coming from the rocks and as minna squinted a vision appeared before her is there was a man floating in front of the rocks or something that looked like one. It was hard to tell with the cloudy moonlight. And the rush of water blurring. Her vision won't be saved. Anything he smiled. And the current carried minna. Straight into his embrace minna almost screamed until she looked at the man's face it was unlike any she'd ever seen his frame was slender but sinewy strong his soft skin was so pale. It was almost blew. His long hair shone like gold even in the dark and his eyes were pale iridescent blue. She found herself filled with a strange yet. Undeniable desire for this being minnow was so lost in the creatures hypnotic gaze that she didn't even blink as he dragged her into the blue black depths of the rhine. When minna awoke it was morning. She was on land and she was safe. She scrambled to her feet and realized she was back on the shores of her village bara and could even make it home in time for church. She was about to run off when a terrible hang in her belly sent her sprawling her hands instinctively went to the source of discomfort and she gasped. She could feel a bump on her. Usually trim stomach in that instant minna new. When the man asked what she'd give for her life she had said anything and now minna was certain she carried the water spirits child. Welcome to mythology a spotify original from podcast. Every tuesday we present dramatic stories from ancient mythology and explore their origins. I'm your host and narrator vanessa. Richardson you can find all episodes of mythology. And all other spotify originals. From podcast for free on spotify or wherever. You listen to podcasts. Today were diving. Into the german tale of laura lie the daughter of a water god whose voice was so beautiful. It sent sailors to their deaths on the rocky shores of the rhine river. This week will learn. Law relies tragic origins next week. We'll see laura lie wheeled her spell binding powers and pay a terrible price coming up. We'll meet an outcast in love. This episode is brought to you by progressive drivers who switch and save with progressive. Save an average of over seven hundred and fifty dollars on car insurance get a quote at progressive dot com to see how much you could be. Saving national annual average auto insurance savings by new customers surveyed in twenty nineteen potential. Savings will vary if thought of the holidays. Coming up makes you tired for your bed. Then listen up cast black. Friday sale has a thirty percent off everything. You need to make your place of rest. A place of dreams supportive mattress lash pillow soft sheets cozy through milnes and all up the blankets. But don't fall asleep yet. Casper's black friday sale is on now. Go to casper dot com to shop now. Terms and conditions apply. This episode is brought to you by hennessy for superstar artists. My luma never stop. Never settle means celebrating. His true voice and dreams overcoming any obstacle along the journey. His new curated playlist in collaboration with hennessy. Is bulla songs. A lift him up and motivate him as well as celebrate some of the voices of hispanic culture. Celebrate your voice and check on luma's playlists exclusively on spotify. There used to be no greater danger. On germany's rhine river than lower ally rock. The steep cliff was over four hundred feet tall and jutted out into a narrow curb of the rhine. The bend was shallow and tough to navigate. Many a sailor met their death when current sent them. Crashing against the law relies surface. Perhaps their deaths were a simple matter of water and physics caused by a particularly dangerous rock but as the cliffs name indicates there's a more mystical explanation for the lure of law rely though its origins are still debated. Some scholars believe laura lies linguistic roots to be those of german and celtic nature that translates to murmuring rock. Due to the way waves echoed off the cliffside sailors could hear eerie. Sounds coming from the rocks which they said were the voice of a supernatural creature and there was no creature with more dangerous lure too lonely sailors than a beautiful beckoning. Songstress detail of law rely. The temptress is relatively modern. Compared to most myths we cover in the nineteenth century. Many different german authors wrote of a riverside temptress whose persona most likely inspired by ancient greek siren myths in clemens brentano eighteen o. One novel goad. V laurel i heart broken maiden in riverside village called barbara whose beauty bewitched all men in his eighteen. Twenty four poem de laura lie heinrich haina tells us of a water. Nymph sitting on the murmuring rock who unwittingly leads a sailor to his watery grave with her singing in some tales. She dies for her sins in others. She's rescued by her father. A river god named father rhine the details. Don't all add up. But that just proves lower allies power as a mythical mysterious and misunderstood woman centuries ago sailors were lucky indeed if they survived a wreck on the murmuring rock if they manage to escape a nightmarish shipwreck and the hostile current. They might stumble down the shore into a waking dream. The village of barra barra was an idyllic little town nestled amongst rolling green hills. The homes were brightly painted. The food was fresh and bountiful and the people were healthy and god fearing if anyone was the pride and joy of barra it was. Greta miller the young woman of twenty rarely went to the market on main street for her. Wealthy father had errand boys for every task but once in a while. She descended from her estate to hand select. Dc's for her sophisticated palate and every merchant marveled at her golden curls and sparkling personality. That hair becker. The baker sold greta his freshest loaves of bread and threw in a delicious choice'll coupon for free glad tidings fisher hair fisher the fish monger handed greta salmon. His sons had caught that morning while his wife slipped her an old family recipe for cooking. It have a most blessed day. Greta smiled touched by the villagers kindness when she was done. She waved and every single vendor waved back then. She turned to walk off when someone had the audacity to stumble right into her. Watch where you're going you. Oh i'm sorry greta. in truth. Greta was rather rude under her veneer of just as barra was rather stifling in its perfection. Greta usually hit it well but if there was one person who rankled her. It was her cousin. Laura lie laura. Lie was not an oath in. She and greta looked a lot alike and spent their childhoods playing together and singing in the school choir but their lives diverged in adolescence and they're bond dissolved entirely. Most people thought it was a family matter. Greta parents had become wealthy after her father took over a ryan trading post a few years prior. Meanwhile laura lies mother. Minna grew fed up with so called friends. Who gossiped about her daughter's mysterious parentage. When she could no longer afford to live in town and her rich sister refused to help minimum moved to a shabby farm in the countryside. Some whispered that. They practiced dark magic there. On the rare occasions that laura lie ventured back into baja. She unsettled villagers with her greasy hair threadbare fox and blunt manner. Greta wanted to evade her but she had a benevolent reputation to protect apologies. Laura lie i barely recognized. You knew frock. I'm sure it was new. At some point. How is at maria. She's wonderful and how his aunt minna. She's feuding with one of our coats. Best of luck to the goat. Anyway i must be off. Why isn't this a happy site more in greta together again. The women tensed up as bishop air win. Ambled over the young priest had the innocence of a choirboy and no one in barak could bear to upset him. I haven't seen you together. Since since laura lie and her mother stopped attending sunday. Service with the rest of your family mini makes it hard for her to travel. No my mother just doubts the existence of god but her knee hurts to bishop win. I apologized for. Laura lays curious sense of humor not to worry. I can take risky jokes. I just can't make them but anyway it is good to see you reunited gossiping about. Tonight's party party. Yes greatest birthday celebrations night. Surely you're attending laurel i. I was not invited. Of course you were. Mother had a messenger deliver all the invitations month ago. Have to got lost on the way to your farm since it is so remote. Oh girls do sort it out with hari. Coming to it'll be wonderful to see you three scampering about just like old times so you tonight bishop air win wandered off to sample some of hair bekker's pastries. Greta moved to leave but law rely grabbed her arm. What is he talking about. How he's been gone for ages. He's coming through town. He got a job. I'm of my father's ships. I didn't know that. I haven't heard from harry in years. Well he and i have been corresponding. Oh all right. where and when is your party. The dance how at sunset lease consider not coming. Greta hurried away but lure still had errands to run. The baker barely made eye contact as he sold her three day old bread at a discount. The fishmonger had his wife deal with her because the girls knack for haggling set his nerves. Aflame law rely dreaded her time in town as she knew what people thought of her and her mother but today she barely paid attention to anyone. Strange looks or whispers because hari was coming back into her life Lower lie walked back to mother's farm with a spring in her step. She even hummed though she'd not sung in years but it was a bittersweet tune for in truth her memory of was not entirely a pleasant one. Laura lie. Greta and hari were inseparable in their youth. Though the boy was a year older he was so scrawny that the girls had to protect him from the bullies. Both greta and laura lie secretly. Fancied him but laura ally had won that battle though she hadn't been aware it was a battle when they were fourteen. Laura lies sang in a school yard concert. It was a rare moment where everyone in borrow seemed eager for her presence and hari was more eager than anyone on. Laura lies walk home. He ran up and said that her voice was as beautiful as her face then. He kissed her and scampered away. It was the happiest lure ally had ever been until. Greta stepped out of the bushes with them in her is. That was the real reason. The girls drifted apart from each other and from hari to the boys soon grew tall strong and entirely to manley to spend time with either of them. The last time moralize saw hari was when he left to work with his father on a trading ship. So she fully intended to attend. Greta is party but i. She needed her mother's permission. Absolutely not no won't hear another word about this lure lies. Mother minnow was having a bad enough day as it was. Her knee was acting up again and are only female goat. Wouldn't stand still enough to let her milk it so she wasn't too pleased. When laura lie came home dreaming of a fancy party thrown by ms simpering booze joie niece mother. I so rarely ask for anything. Then ask me for something else. A new pair of work boots pet pig. Even i had one of those put. We ate him well beyond was plump and times. Were hard and getting harder. I know why. Do you think haggle. With hair. Becker for discounted bread. Good girl yes i am. Who deserves a night out. You barely let me go into town. You forbidden from going to the rhine in the summer. Because it's far away and you can't swim because you never taught me and still i stay by your side. I have so little. Can't i just have this. Oh this caterwauling for gratis party. You hate her and rightfully so it's not about greta. It's just har he will be there. Wonderful this is about a man. What have i only told you. Men are traders who take what they want and run very good girl but not every man is like father. Not that i know what he was. Like since you've never told me a single thing about him laura lie. There are some things you are better off. Not knowing while i'd like to know some happiness. Mother i miss hurry. I used to call my one and only remember. Horry was a teenage infatuation. If he really cared for you he'd have written he'd have visited so unless he plans to come here and invite you himself. Oh minna looked past. Laura lie and rolled her eyes exasperated. Laura ally turned. almost fainted. From shock for hari was on a horse riding up to their farmhouse. There you are laura. Lie coming up. Laura lie rekindles an old flame and learns an old secret high listeners. To our favourite month podcast network is releasing a slate of new shows leaning into all things spooky and spine tingling. And now we're bringing you an original series called superstitions featuring the origins and impacts of our most unusual beliefs and the stories of those who dare to defy them every week on superstitions. Here in new drama that illustrates the eeriness and unlocked the mysteries of humanity's strangest codes of conduct like holding your breath while passing a cemetery. 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The annual average auto insurance savings by new customers surveyed in twenty nineteen potential. Savings will vary discounts vary and are not available in all states and situations now back to the story. Law relies stared at hari. The boy she loved as a teenager who she hadn't heard from in years now he was standing at her doorstep. Her mother ministered behind her up protective hand on her arm. But laura lie wriggled free. She walked up to hari who was still on his horse. Her head spun at seeing him again. He'd grown into a handsome and rugged young sailor with stubble on his chin and wild sun streaked hair as hari dismounted. laura live. Felt like she might kiss him right then and there so she surprised even herself when she slapped him across the cheek instead. What was for. I don't know. But i'm sure you deserved it. Lovely to see you again to frau wagner whether the goats escaped go. Find it and give some privacy please. Blessed remember to stand your ground. Law rely minna limped after her. Errand goat while laura lie turned back to hurry. He rubbed his red cheek with confusion looking for a second like the shy little boy. She once knew. Laura lie threw her arms around him in a warm embrace a slap and a hug greetings. Her have certainly changed since i left. I'm sorry for the slap or the hug both neither laura. What's the matter with you. i don't know. I'm i'm thrilled to see you of course but it's also been four years an utter silence and then i have to learn urinetown from greta. Who'd you've apparently been trading letters with. I wrote her with my address. I thought she pass it along to you. You thought greta would do someone else a favor. You're too hard on her after all. She convinced her father to give me a job. So why have you come here. I just sailed into town. I wanted to make sure you came tonight. Well the only reason i would have gone was to see you. Combat your farm and a few days and we can have a proper visit then no lie. I want you there. And i want you to sing for us like you used to sing. I've barely practiced in years. I sound like a pig being slaughtered. It would mean so much to hear your voice again and to one of my oldest friends by my side on such a special night. Laura i almost felt like hari was hiding something but then he put a strong hand on her shoulder and squeezed. It and her doubt dissipated laura lie. Didn't know what to do next. But luckily minna returned lugging an angry goat in her arms. Right that's enough. I can go to the party if she chooses. But stop distracting her. In the meantime she has chores off. Hugo hurry stormed into the barn intent on milking nat blasted goat laurel. I rolled her eyes. Hari did to then. He mounted his horse. See you tonight why. I can't wait for you to see my ship ship. The parties at the dance hall. No you must have got it wrong. The parties on my sailing ship. Well technically gross father's ship we're talking at by the murmuring rock. The view will be spectacular. As hari departed lure alive frowned clearly. Greta had given her the wrong location on purpose but thankfully dear horry had made things right a few hours later loyal. I walked into the farmhouse when she pleaded her wild golden curls into submission and slipped on a lacy dress she'd found in the attic. It was her mother's from when she was young and believed looks battered. Minna looked up from the kitchen table and took in her daughter. A complicated mix of pain and pride played across her face. You look so normal. It's suits you too. Well did you just compliment. My looks a woman is worth more than her word appearance. But yes now. You'll need the horse. I know it's about her but you should take the long way to town. The path is smoother and the light is better. I'm not going into the village. I thought the party was at the town hall. But it's at the murdering rock. What laura lie then. You must stay home if this is about the river. I promise i won't go swimming. It's not about the ryan it's about what's underneath it mother. What's wrong. I need to tell you something about your father min emotion for laura line to sit. Though laura lie was itching to leave. She had never seen her mother in. This state minnow was trembling breathless and deeply afraid so laura. Lie took a cautious seat at the table. What about my father. When i was your age. I almost drowned in the rhine. The only thing that saved me was a man's voice. Beautiful one like yours but older singing to me from the murmuring rock. I swam toward so certain it would be my salvation mother. I don't understand. I thought he was an angel but he was something different a spirit one who wrapped me in his arms and filled me with lust and then pulled me into the deep and then i awoke the next day on the shores of beheira pregnant. What are you saying. I believe the spirit was father. Rhine lord of the river. I believe are his child. I believe you may have his gifts. And i believe that if you go to the rock he would reclaim you so that is why you must stay home with me. I didn't realize well it's not like they taught us about father ryan church no i. I didn't realize how truly unhinged you're what your story is preposterous. You don't even believe in god. But i believe in god's even if no one else doesn't even if everyone in beheira said. I was assaulted by a sailor. They called me a liar. Maybe they're right literali please. Even if you don't believe me just stay do what you're told no tonight i do it. I want. Law allies stood from the table and raced out of the house. Minna wanted to run after her but her knee was weak and her heart was broken. She barely made it to the door when she heard the family horse gallop away as the sun set below the horizon. Laura lie galloped. Across the countryside with is narrowed in anger she felt guilty for defying her mother's wishes but if she would make up such a story just to keep her home. She was beyond reasoning. With so laura lie looked up at the murmuring rock looming in the distance. She felt no fear only excitement. Or at least that's what she told herself. Soon laura lie reached the shores of the rhine. It was a place she'd only been to a few times in childhood in secret with greta wall. Her mother hadn't allowed her to go there. Laura rely couldn't deny that something about the place felt right. Up ahead was a handsome wooden sailing ship bedecked with colorful lanterns and brimming with barbara's best and brightest villagers to lure allies is. It was the prettiest sight she'd ever seen. She kept her eyes up so she didn't notice the river's waters lapping closer and closer to her. Horse's hooves like the water was hungry for her. Next laura lie attends and unforgettable party. 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Cash rewards credit card choosing to earn three percent cashback on online shopping rewards that you put towards the cost of an essential piece of post skating recovery. A heating pad visit bank of america dot com slash more rewarding to apply now copyright two thousand twenty bank of america corporation. Now back to the story line left her horse with one of greta. Stuffy valets and made her way up the gangway onto the ship. Another servant stood by a golden rope letting guests in when laura lie gave her name the man's side and said she wasn't on the list. Lower allies face grew hot. She searched the crowd on deck and saw greta. She waved but greta looked away. Laura rely side and waited until bishop air win whispered something to greta and pointed to lure ally with a frown rippling across her red stained lips. Greta stomped over and called out to the servant. She may enter the servant. Let lower live through onto the ship's deck. She approached greta. Who looked positively nauseous at her presence. Happy birthday greta. Apparently i'm supposed to sing. You do not have to do that. I heard hari came by your farm. Yes to clear up confusion about. The party's location. I am sure he meant well. But i truly wish you hadn't come. Laura lie was puzzled for while the words out of greta is mouth were mean. The expression on her face was somewhat remorseful. She was about to ask if greta was all right. When one of greta is pretty friends pulled her away to dance on the deck. Laura lie walked through the crowd clutching her arm. Like a security blanket and searching for hari she knew the villages upper crust was gossiping about her presence or perhaps her appearance but she had more important goals. Laura lie observed hari across the deck. But when he wasn't laughing with baras body bachelor's he was refilling. Greta champagne laura lie. Couldn't quite work up the courage to interrupt so it was almost a relief. When bishop air win waved her over to the table he sat alone. Laura lion the bishops sat together through dinner and dancing and cake. The man was a chatterbox. And all she had to do was nod pleasantly. But when air wins conversational well finally ran dry. He seemed to realize how tense laura ally was more. Something is troubling. You is there any way i can help. Laura lie searched. Air wins is he was a man of god and her mother had always told her that they weren't to be trusted but at the same time air win had always been kind to her. Maybe he was worth confiding in. I just i just had a different vision of how things might go tonight. I hope i enjoy it more since mother actually tried to stop me from coming. Well i can't say. I agree with your mother's view on most matters. I do know she cares for you. Deeply the poor woman has had to be mother and father to you and perhaps she's gotten a little too protective well. That's exactly it to stop me. Mother told me the story about my father. She said he was. Oh i feel so silly. Even saying father ryan. How do you know that name morlai. This isn't the best time at tension. Everyone attention before air win could continue. All eyes were drawn to the ship's prow. The musicians went silent as greta stood on a makeshift stage before them. Thank you all so much for being here tonight. It means so much to me and to us. Hurry up here. Hari made his way through the crowd. Receiving encouraging slaps on the back from his friends laurel. I watched him with growing alarm. She wasn't sure what was happening. But her chest ached with sudden dread. This may come as a surprise. I do love birthday surprise. But well hurry and i have an announcement. It's it's rather sudden but you could also say it's been a long time coming. We're engaged to be married. Every guest stood up to cheer but laura lie remained seated her vision swam and her heartbeat slowed. She felt like she was going to faint. And she kept her eyes trained on the glass of water in front of her while she took deep breaths. Laura lie barely saw the water in her glass shift. In time with her breath the crowd's noise was deafening and her heartbreak was too great. Thank you thank you and to celebrate. I'd be honored. If our dear childhood friend laura ally wagner would come up and sing a tune for us. Laura i looked up. Hari was smiling at her from the stage. Greta clung nervously to his arm and looked away. She almost looked guilty. And every single guest turned their head to look at laura lie. Expectantly bishop air win. Put a friendly hand on her back and pushed her forward. Laura lie briefly wondered if she could make it through a song with her dignity intact but she was so shell shocked that she only took two steps toward the stage. Before stumbling and falling to the deck then laura rely pulled herself back up to her feet and bolted to the gangway. Much to greg's dismay hari leapt from the stage to follow her out to the shore. Morlin wait. I did wait for years. Hurry now leave me alone. Lure ally ran off hari wanted to follow his past. But greta was inside and she was his future so he turned and went back into her father's ship. Laura life finally stopped running once she was away from the ship and the crowd and the nightmare of greg as party. She threw herself against a boulder at the bottom of the murmuring rock and cried like she never had before hari was greg as now he'd been to oblivious to tell her and greta had been too cruel the entire town had tizard and whispered her shame and her mother was a liar who deprived her of a normal life. Laura lie kept crying. Her tears trickled down the boulder and dripped into the rhines lapping shores. And as soon as they touched the water a voice called out. Hello who's there. It called out from somewhere within the murmuring rock laurel. I took a few cautious steps and realized there was a passageway between the boulders at the cliffs base. Then i heard a haunting soaring voice as water rushed into the passage. She knew she would drown so she tried to run out. But the water raced around her legs and laura lie swore it felt like it was grabbing her ankles then the water did grab her and pulled her down into an underground tunnel after a rough landing. Lauren i realise she'd fallen into a half submerged. Grotto under the murmuring rock strange slithered around in the unnaturally bluewater. Every noise seemed to go around her splintering into thousands of smaller sounds lure ally looked up and was stunned to see a man silhouetted in the grotto's entry but he looked like no man she had ever seen. He was taller slimmer and paler than a man was supposed to be and is is shown with the same color as the watery blue around her room. Service turned out father. Laura lie wanted to protest. She wanted to say it was a trick that her mother's story was ally or that. This was some grief induced fever dream. But laura lies simply knew. He was father rhine lord of the river and that she was his daughter. What do you want born to be left alone. Do not believe you. What do you one nor hari are still leave you. my child won't bother. Rhines voice burrowed. Its way into law relies ears. The sound almost drove her mad but in madness. There is clarity. And after a few moments laura live finally found her real answer to her father's question. I want revenge. thanks again for tuning into mythology. We'll be back tuesday with a new episode. Find out what happens. When laura lie gains the ability to control any man she meets and the villagers of barbera band together to banish her. You can find more episodes of mythology and all other spotify originals from podcast for free on spotify. If you enjoy mythology you'll love my other podcast. Tails tales presents fairy tales. The way they were originally told orally and unadulterated traditional fairy. Tales aren't exactly suitable for children and every wednesday. We dive into another dark classic tale. We'll be back next week. With the conclusion. To this epoch story mythology is a spotify original. From podcast executive producers include max and ron cutler sound designed by michael lang's ner with production assistance by ron shapiro carly madden and freddie beckley. This episode of mythology was written by a mean osman with writing assistance by andrew. Kelleher the amazing cast of voice actors includes tian camacho. Joe hernandez kim lynn. And then wong. I'm vanessa. Richardson remember to follow superstitions. For new episodes featuring our most unusual beliefs are they side effects of ancient folklore or truly the masters of our fates look closely and examine the writing on the wall. Superstitions airs every wednesday free on spotify.
FFR 70: Greta
"We've got some big news. We're starting a new podcast community. And we want you to be a part of it. Head over to patriot dot com slash fem free to join the fun. They wake up from that. And it's like, oh, no. That was the dream. This is real like they way, you know, what the moral of the story is Carol. Why don't fuck in microwave your goddamn com? I'm so worried for you. Welcome to frequency radio. This is episode seventy. I'm your host and Nietzsche's. Are he's Ian. And I'm joined by two young women. Who would definitely return any handbags? They found on the subway Carolyn Bennett, an evidence, Adam. I love that bag. This is the show that asks you to be critical of the media, you love or alternatively. We're the feminist killjoys coming for your media, depending on your perspective today, we're going to be talking about Greta the latest film from Neil Jordan after that will finish the show by each sharing a little something in what's your freak out? Let's get to it. All right. So this is brought to you by throw coat again, because I'm fucking sick gamers, man, gamers, am I I don't know what happened. I like used to pride myself on never getting sick. And this is like twice this year already. I suspect it's because you were never completely better. From last time. Your immune system was still suppressed. You know, you gotta go away to an uninhabited island in light. Just completely reset. And then actually don't come back because then you'll be screwed when you come back. I know right. You like release the stress and then you distress again. So why don't I just stay on the island? This'll be like, maybe it'll be like the island. Do you remember arrow, and he got all buffing was able to do salmon pull ups and shit. I do not remember any of that. I don't know. What those words mean? Someone listening will understand what I'm talking about. Because those salmon push ups are fucking that cool. No pull ups there. It's the one where it's the bar, and you like you like jump and move the bar up as you're doing the pull up its bananas. I just didn't know you watched aero either the part that. I'm sure. I watched the first season. We all have our weaknesses are secrets. I don't actually like it. I just keep watching it. No. I didn't keep watch. Anyway. Can we get on with this fucking show at Caroline's? Save us. Okay. All right. I actually have a story. One of my stories today will be about the DC universe. But I'll save that one for a bit. So first of all at GD last week the game developers conference which happens every year here in San Francisco, California, Google housing an event sort of unveiling their upcoming stadia gaming streaming gaming system. Right, which which means that you will play games on it, basically over the internet. Playstation already has a system like this cul PlayStation now where you can play on your PS four you can play like a PS three games. I haven't looked at the library recently. But basically Google wants to do this bigger and better than anyone has ever done it before there was a threat. Read by game developer, named Mathew y-y-your who goes on Twitter by amazing CU, he really got to the heart of why of what is kind of so scary about, you know, the industry's likely massive shift in the direction of kind of streaming boxes as opposed to consoles that we're looking at in the in the coming years he eliminated that by by comparing these streaming services to Spotify. So his tweets said things like and again, remember he's he's referring to Spotify here. But he's really talking about gaming streaming video games. Right. He says Spotify is a dream business model for capitalists and entire category of creative work built by labor. They didn't pay for while in entire countries. Pay them every month for access to a library the cost almost nothing to maintain it is infinite money, and every investor sees it. He goes on to say. We don't know the details yet, they will suck. It won't matter. Expect latency ruining entire genres expect LGBT content getting out of their algorithm vanished. Expect payment structures making short narrative games untenable. It won't matter. Nothing will stop them doing this. I super don't wanna be the stream pocket lips guy. But I honestly don't know what we're supposed to do. Spotify literally eight and industry, and no one has any idea how to fight it gains. Don't even have live performances to fall back on. I sure hope I'm wrong. So yeah. Like, that's really accurate. Yeah. It's it's chilling. And remember, this is happening against the backdrop of GDP see where you know each year. We see more mobilization more conversation around the idea of unionizing in the games industry. I think that there's also another announcement happening today that's going to be a major huge announcement for games. That by the time this podcast comes out because we're recording on Monday should be public information, which I'm might be in this same orbit of like, what is happening to games. Well, so that's you know, that's definitely scary. In better news, another thing at GD, right? Every year GD there's one night where there's the the the combined Jeff awards independent games festival awards. And then the the game I for game developers choice awards or whatever they're called. And the the GDP awards were hosted by, you know, industry favorite, Tim Schafer. Who was very funny. You know, he did it. He did a fine job. But the awards were hosted by Meg jams who is a very well respected writer in the games industry. Right. She wrote eighty days she she wrote sunless skies. Which is a a beautifully written game. And you know, she's a she's a woman. She's a Brown woman. Right. She's of Indian descent, she was absolutely like unwavering during those awards in terms of kind of pushing back against white supremacy really saying that that, you know, the games industry. Still absolutely has to commit itself fully to you know, rejecting the the underlying sentiments of gamer gate, she she definitely made the connection between the tragic shootings in New Zealand, and the fact that the that the killer said subscribe to Pudi pie before going on his rampage. And you know, she has gotten so much her harassment and crap and had so many YouTube videos by ranting white bearded white. Eight men made about her in the days sense. But certainly, I, you know, I'm very grateful to her for forgetting up there and being so, you know, uncompromising and unwavering in giving voice to those very important. Issues in in in gaming culture. And quickly y'all. We're talking about finding Neverland on an upcoming episode. I think I know what the story is going to be so. This was really shocking and appointing and vary. It made me very uncomfortable to see this. But Barbara Streisand said in an interview with the times, she had some very strange comments about the whole about the situations. The events depicted or the recounted I should say in finding Neverland documentary. She says. Which is about Michael Jackson's stuff. Yes. The abuse. Michael Johnson case use of of these the two men specifically who are featured in the documentary. All right. So I she said she absolutely believes Robson and safe took and described Jackson with whom she wants turned down an offer to wet with as quote, very sweet, very childlike. She added quote, his sexual needs were his sexual needs coming from whatever childhood he has or whatever DNA he has you can say molested, but those children as you heard say. They were thrilled to be there. They both married and they both have children. So it didn't kill them. Yeah. I I'm not gonna react too much to this now because a lot of what I have to say, we'll talk about in the podcast because I think it's it's obviously too big for quick one off, but it hits sort of every wrong way to respond. You know, the I didn't see the abuse. And or it did not happen to me. So consequently, did it really happen. The if you are if you survive in use revive too. Well, then how could you truly have been traumatized? How bad could it have been the notion that lake, you know, there there must be like the lurking in there must be some alterior motive why? Now, why these people, but also the kind of hand waving us of you know, whatever his sexual needs were like we're not talking about some. Who is asking his adult partners to wear Ronald McDonald outfits. You know, this is this is not you can't hand wave this away under L, whatever his sexual needs. Are you know, and then follow it up with the additional or vinyl level of, you know, whether it's because of what he experienced the child or two Justin is there is no part of her statement. Which was okay it fucked up on every level in the wells defended it, Diana Ross. Yep. No didn't know that. And so then Barbra Streisand, essentially retracts her statement, right and says it was taken out of the standard response. It was taken out of context. That's not what I meant. Of course. I believe the victims, whatever. And it's like so. Like, you what you know? You don't get to occupy position. A an position be you, you either believe the victims and support the survivors or you don't, you know, there's no way to take what you said out of context the context was there. Yeah. Absolutely. So took too close with with a with a story on on the more, much more positive note. So that the DC the DC universe. Live action titans. Tv series has cast in the role of of Jericho. They have cast a deaf transgender actor named Chella man shell a man is a Jewish slash Chinese American actor, they identity self identify as gender queer and queer artist. So the character of Jericho is so they are the son of death stroke who who's going to be played by eastside. Morales on on titans and Jericho is mute after I'm reading a description right now from comic book from a comic book site Jericho is mute after his father failed to rescue him from having his vocal chords severed by assassins, Jay. Barikot has the unique ability to possess. Anyone just by making? I contact this gentle natured get proud hero has proven himself a formidable titan. So casting this an actually. Deaf actor at trans actor just like as a bonus in this role is is really exciting. Certainly from the pictures. I've seen of shell. I he he looks like a great fit for the part. Yeah. I've never watched any of the DC live action TV shows to be honest. I never watched era. I've never watched supergirl or anything. But, but, you know, I'm I'm very encouraged by by news like this. I think it's great. Yeah. And like there, it is this, you know, no more like we couldn't find these actors. You know, we had to go with whoever was best that always means light system through person, you know, play-acting some other culture like here it is. You just do it each time. This happens. It helps. Belie the that idea. Right. That oh, you know. Well, the most qualified or the only person available or whatever just happened to be this system. Underway, dude. Like, obviously, that's just the more. This happens the more patently absurd that line of thinking, you know, becomes just on its surface for anyone who's paying any attention. There is a lot of talk about supporting independent media, creators. And we think it's as as ever these days to do just that if you've value smart, honest, feminist analysis than come join our podcast community at patriot dot com slash them free. Plus, you'll get access to some fun perks, including the frequent after party our weekly Poche oh bonus exclusively for patrons. That's patriot dot com slash fem. Freak. Let's move into the main segment for this week. We'll you're talking about the movie, Greta Evie tells a little bit about it, absolutely Mehta. So Greta stars khloe excuse me, khloe, grace merits. That's that's a mouthful as Francis. A young Boston transplant to New York learns why you should never ever be kind of people in New York. Work after finding and returning a lost handbag to a lonely. French widow played by the stunningly off kilter Isabel bear Francis becomes the target for Greta is increasingly untended efforts to keep Francis near her at all times. I was delighted to have Steven Ray in the movie for about five minutes because his patented hangdog expression was perfect any featured a damn fine American accent. So the foam is directed by Neil Jordan, who's probably best known for films like the crying game breakfast on Pluto and the butcher boy. I know that you were bored by this foam, Anita. I was the opposite of board. How dare you will action? Action to our listeners. You wanna do you to you want me to rerecord? Yeah. I don't I should not start this conversation. Okay. So when we Caroline, and I went to see it at the draft house in SF when I was at GD because the draft Osas literally the only thing I miss about San Francisco coach. True facts, y'all shoot back San Francisco sucks anyways, the draft house. Does these awesome? Like a pre shows. Oh, and they found footage. It's old movies. It's weird obscure clips, and they play it for about thirty minutes and their custom made to each film. And it's it's a delight. And so in it there was the trailer for what's the baby. Jane, what's? Yeah. Whatever happened is. Yeah. And and one like I was like, oh everything's gonna love this movie. Because if that's nothing that's like starting this off. But also men watching that trailer. Caroline, and I were like man, I miss trailers like that like not that we were alive when that happened. But well when did that movie come out, I don't even know anyways, you you were. You were. Whatever have unless unless if you were we need to talk about that right now. Yeah. Bill. Yeah. Correct. Whatever y'all I'm sick. I don't understand time anyways. But like there was something. So like, the just the style of that trailer like go watch it again. And I just I would love to see trailers. I like to see a resurgence of trailers like that. I think we should do an episode. That's all about trailer trash, let's do it. The other trailer. That was prominently featured derail you can't this special bonus content. Carro? Why wouldn't what why would you just talk? I wasn't talking about three show shore. Was it one of the trailer trailing? I know in the pre show. Okay. Fine, fine. It was prominently featured in the pre show, ebony wise, single white female shut. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Which I've never seen. But the trailer, you know, is very effective. I wish I could have been there with y'all this. I did not have a pre show and we watch single female. Sleaze. Let's added that calendar right now. Okay. I'm doing it and my recording. This intro. We just moving. No, no. This is perfect. Okay. What our viewers demand? Okay. What did you think of the actual movie? I really enjoyed it at the same time that I agree with critics who are like this is not a Neil Jordan's best film, nor is it going to be one that will. That will be considered like an important part of his oath. You know decades from now, nevertheless as someone who thrills to any new entry into the psycho biddy genre. Absolutely enjoyed every single moment that the camera hovered close to Isabel who bears face in this film. And I just I enjoyed myself. I loved the ways that Neil Jordan, sort of deployed standard kind of horror tropes in this film, and the ones that he sort of walked back or refused to engage with I really loved it. I will say this. I lost my pen somewhere between my car in the theater. So I couldn't take notes during the film. So my responses are going to be even more unhinged than normal. But the one thing that stuck with me that I probably last the hardest that was the production. Design in this film, for some reason that wall hanging that said don't go Jason waterfalls made me fall out of my chair. Where was that? It was in Francis kitchen in that beautiful love that she shared with her awful roommate Erica. It's a wall hanging. And it is so completely out of place. And I was like this is a choice. This is a choice, and I just want to know what's behind it. But there there's a longing. Those live laugh love kind of you know, fonts on the. So that means you're one kind of decor. Also, she headed her fall. She had a shirt on that said Malaysia Noah, which movie means bad in French. So I feel like these are all things like references to things that are the the filmmakers understand and have reason for you know, I was definitely very aware of how like as you say up any like Jordan was was playing with a lot of genre standards like standard techniques, and and perhaps won't the the one that remains with me the most after having seen the film is that there's a sequence where a character is drugged. Right. And then you go into what happens after their drugged. And but then they wake up from that. And it's like oh thank God. That was all a dream. But then they wake up from that. And it's like, oh, no. That was the dream. This is real like they way, you know, what the moral of the story is Carol what? Don't fuck in microwave your goddamn com. I'm so worried for you. Happened. Again, I should have been with the two of you because I would have elbowed you so hard at that moment. Oh at Caroline. And I looked at each other laughing in the middle of the movie. I don't do. I don't know. If we have we talked about this on the podcast. Just in case. We haven't ebony microwaves her coffee relentlessly and became this like disgusting joke. Well, disgusting to me. But he became this joke in our office because it was so gross. Yeah. And US I unapologetic about the fact that I want my coffee to be the temperature of the sun, and I will keep my. Until it burn off a couple of layers of taste buds. And now, I'm worried ebony when this win is like psycho French chick is like becomes obsessed with you because you're so cool that when you make away your coffee, it's gonna happen. Definitely going to happen. I know I absolutely loved. Greta I loved everything about her. Look this film made me as all films, set New York do made me wanna move to New York. I was just like, you know, what I probably would hang with Greta even after I found out that she was completely fucking off kilter. You know, she was fascinating I loved how this film with its insistence on non naturalistic acting sort of forces you forces, the viewer to always keep in mind that this is like this sort of heightened emotion you. You know of the story of the medium as well. Right. So there's that key scene at the beginning where Francis and Eric are in a movie theater. They've got three D glasses on the camera focuses in very closely on their faces. And and Francis seeing like the movie has not started yet. I think the film like never lets you forget that. You're watching a film. I love that. It felt awkward and alienating in a weird. But it felt very deliberate to me. And so, yeah, I just I felt like it was very it was a very deliberate film, and I appreciated that. I also appreciate it the way that. Okay. So in the the last vendors movie Infinity war, there's this sort of crucial conversation about whether Thanos really loves Gamarra's. And people have pointed out that like. Like he believes that he does. But it's very abusive self-centered form of love. Right. That's that's not really love at all. But the film, you can read the film as believing that he actually does love Kamara in this film. There's a way in which we can both empathize with with Greta this profound loneliness like you, feel her isolation in the midst of this vibrant bustling city, and yet we can never forgive her for the way that she addresses it because for one thing her loneliness in a way is false. She's not looking to actually engage with someone to have an open and honest exchange. She wants someone near her that she can pour into there's there's nothing to weigh about the relationship that she wants. Yeah. I actually wanted to talk about that the notion of loneliness in this film because because Greg uses that as as a kind of excuse, right or. She'll Scheldt she often says like I I'm so lonely, but she we we learn, of course, that she's been the treated her own daughter this way. Right. And and so I don't really believe that Greta z- pathology her her behavior comes from loan like loneliness, and you know, I mean, I liked this movie game, I found it extremely cathartic, and you know to watch but loneliness is one of the great ills affecting humankind right now there's like this epidemic of loneliness. You know, a lot of I think more people feel isolated and detached now than ever, and I want films that that deal with that in a in a compassionate way. That like knowledge it in that explore it. But you know, I mean. Because I don't feel like her her loneliness. I don't feel like she her. Her behavior comes out of loneliness. I don't really feel like this film is sort of demonizing. Loneliness. But you know, but it did it did make me I did come out of the film thinking. Okay. But where are you know, where films that really look sympathetically and thoughtfully at people who are genuinely suffering from like from from loneliness. 'cause I do think we we need. I feel like that. That is something again, it's just so relevant to the world that we live in right now. And that we we we that that films and films should be kind of dealing with maybe more directly than they are. Yeah. The especially as I said that all of this is happening against the backdrop of one of the most populous, you know, kinda vibrant bustling cities in the world. Right. The very real way in which people can be in a place, but not of a place not woven into a place. So we have Greta as amazing house. That's set back from the street. It doesn't you know, a but the sidewalk or the St. directly you have to walk into it. You know, in the way that you have to walk into her her world and the way that she is. The way she is dressed in adorned. You know, the way she is sort of constantly covered with her her her trenchcoat and her hat and then later, the them her gloves. You know, this is a woman, you know, our is in the world, but not of that world, the film is very effective at creating that feeling of e. Yeah that tension between the claustrophobia of Greg as home, which becomes four. Like becomes increasingly smaller and smaller innocence for for our our main character as she is eventually put in the box, which is an extremely enclosed space. But that that I mean, how how the anguish that must come from from knowing that you're so close to freedom and life, you know, life in all of its sort of splendor there in New York City, but being entirely cut off from it despite it being literally, you know, literally right there. I did not like this nearly as much as you. Okay. I first of all I made a note that say subway doors, don't stay open that long. Just in case anyone is confused about how the subways in New York work. That's that's the part of the that's where the film broke down for you is infrastructure got it. So I I think I'm gonna say something incredibly wrong and uneducated right now to help make my point I don't like horror movies. I don't watch a lot of them. I am not educated enough to speak on them. I feel like a horror might be genre. That might maybe often focus on the feelings that it elicits over the substance of the film. I don't know if that's true, and I think that might be changing, etc. Etc. But I feel like that is relevant to this movie. Like, I felt like it was I really liked Greta and Isabel who payers like performance was amazing. But I didn't really like anything else. And I think part of it was I think it's quite like, it is a well made film, right? Like, there's no doubt about that. Like, it's not like, it's horrible in like, visually, messy and all the stuff. But I felt like the caricatures of everybody was too sincere in being caricatures. Look, I don't feel like the movie found its footing in having these sort of over the top exaggerations, but trying to do it really subtly and trying to do it seriously. And I think that there's a very fine line between that and so I'm going to bring I just watched point break again this weekend. And I bring that up because if you've watched point break, I think that that movie is Abe. To do like ridiculous campy absurd while still being kind of serious and sincere in this way. That like is is hard to to nail down. And I think that this. I think Greta was trying to do that. And to me it failed like grit like Francis. Was this like overly bubbly naive? Young woman that I did not buy her. Roommate was this annoyingly obnoxious rich chick that was a Blake lively rip off. And I couldn't stop seeing her be leg. I was like oh my God. This is lively standing the whole movie. That's all I could think. And so I had a hard time with that. And I had a hard time like plugging into it because I felt like it was just trying to like make me feel these things that I don't feel like it earned. I think one of the things that I appreciate about some forms of the horizontal particularly are our modern versions of it. So whether that's, you know, tell them or TV or. Or literature, or whatever is that they are modern forms of morality plays and fairy tales and folktales, right? And so they kind of deploy those same tropes, and they kind of use the shared shorthand. So there's a way in which this film is absolutely the same is the kind of folk tale that used to be about like the the trio of the maiden the krone and the mother, right? And so, you know, if the point is not to present three dimensional characterizations of Greta Francis. The dead mother the missing daughter et cetera. You know, but in fact, a tell a story using those characters as metaphors, I think the film does work. But I think you know, if you if you take it if if the narrative itself is what's most important to you. If you know sort of like learning. Who Greta is in all of her shadings and nuance. Are what's important to you? Then. Yeah, I think the film, you know, sort of falls apart on that level. One of the things that I mentioned when I said like, I do think there are things that the film doesn't do. Well, I think that does not know what to do with Erica for too much of the film. I think we are encouraged to write her off as vapid superficial. You know, the sort of promiscuous, you know, counterpart. Yeah. College is to her. I mean are. Yeah. Exactly two to Francis is sort of, you know, like virginal wide eyed kind, you know, young woman and then at the end. Weather alert. Alert Rosebud sled. It turns out, you know, Erica comes through and saves. It comes too little too late for that character. I think you know, we spent too long writing her off in comparison to Francis for her to step in in the way that she does and the end and for us to then revise what we learned about her character to that point. But I mean, I that worked for me because. I think like it wouldn't have felt like a twist or surprise the reveal if we saw Erica as somebody who was really invested and thoughtful and committed and I don't know like for me. I totally see what you're saying. But at the same time like given the incredibly twisted female relationship that that dominates this film, having at the end, a a female connection that is true and real and strong. I e it I'm glad that the film at least like really, validated, female friendship and connection in some way. In the film, rather than just leaving us with the Greta. I keep forgetting the main characters name Francis. The Greta Francis like dynamic as sort of the the the the one that is the taste left in our mouth at the very end of the of the film. You know what I mean? Yeah. Definitely. And I do also love how this film is almost all women. You know? So yes, we do have Francis. Father who you know, we see occasional shots of very rarely shots. You know like of him having conversations in the flesh with someone like straight on. It's usually kind of, you know, angled shots of him from above or below or whatever. And then we have Steven Ray and his great face for about five minutes if that, but for the most part, most almost all the people we see in this film are women, and I love that. I absolutely love this kind of like all female space, even when we were talking about just like people in the background. So when. When Greta first comes to to see Francis at the restaurant where she works and the maitre d' is kind of telling. Francis. Like you got to get her out of here. Whatever there's a a woman in the background. I think she's the bartender and her expression sucked. So great so greatly just every every piece of this was planned. And so having that all female world in genre. Is was fantastic. I also think the way that this film titans. The not on you the viewer as it goes is is at times, really fascinating. For instance, one of the most effective moments for me was early on in the film. When Francis I comes to credit is home. There's a moment where there's some noise coming from nearby. Right. And Greenwich goes over and says like a little a little piece, please a little a little quiet or whatever. And she's the neighbors. They're always remodeling. I think they're building. They must building an ark. And then of course, much later in the film were queued to flash back to that moment and realize like if we didn't already that. Oh my God. Of course, it wasn't neighbors doing some construction. It was the Samantha the previous of victim of Greta 's game of the greatest trap who was herself trapped in the box. You know desperately trying to to alert Francis and get help which Francis being of course, completely clueless failed to provide. And how many times has that loop played itself out before? Right. And so it's just this. I had such this this horrifying. Sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach at that moment of home. My god. Like what a nightmare. I think there is actually sorry. No, no. So there's no transition. I was thinking about the loneliness stuff that you brought out. There is a threat of loneliness. That's not very obvious. Or it's not I I'm tributing loneliest to to it. But just how much nobody could help her. Right. Celebrity francis. Is deeply solitary in her fear with the cops being an utter failure with her boss being an utter failure with her roommate giving her terrible advice like she is spiralling, and there's some gas lighting happening here, and how isolating and lonely that and terrifying that is right? And I think they did a really good job of showing that. Yeah, that's fascinating. I actually hadn't really thought of that before. I was I was frustrated with as I said earlier, you know, in the go, I feel like Greta says a lot of true things about loneliness. She says it when point for instance, you know, we were meant for love Francis. Not this terrible isolation. Which is again, something a great many people all over the world are experiencing right now a feeling of of isolation. And so I I was I was torn somebody who wanted to be like, yes, thank you for saying that. But also, but you are. Psychopath. And like, you know, you're not you're behavior. Does not actually come from like loneliness. That's not like lonely people don't do that. Because they're lonely if anything they turn more inward anyway it, but but I think you're absolutely right. That that that fit Francis it experiences, a profound kind of loneliness in this film because nobody really nobody is able to to help her. You know, I was actually frustrated at one point in the film 'cause Francis retorts to Greta with by saying, you know, everybody's lonely which is a thing that people say, and which we often acknowledged like, yes, everyone experiences loneliness to some degree if some point in their lives, but there's a difference between the kind of intermittent loneliness that we all experience, and then the the the kind of. Profound loneliness that an increasing. You know, prolonged loneliness that an increasing number of people are just kind of living with and so I get frustrated sometimes with that throwaway sentiment of. Yeah. But everybody's lonely because it's like, yes. But no like there are different degrees and ways in which people are impacted by loneliness. But yeah to think about about Francis. As a lonely figure as an isolated figure in the midst of all this is is really fascinating. Yeah. And I think the film also offers a way of understanding how isolation preps not loneliness, but but 'isolation or lack of connection can be masked very effectively. You know by the face that we put out in the world. But also the way that people understand what we're putting out in the world. And so once Francis has been kidnapped by Greta, Greta manages to hide that fact by pretending to be Francis via social media, essentially, right like like photos that she's stolen from Francis social media. And so if you were to understand who in you know, what for instance, is up to purely by what was posted. You would assume that she had a full vibrant light. But there was a huge lie behind Matt. Right. But you would never know if the way that you know, people is based upon the screen. That surface level. You very likely will be led astray. I think you know, you can press you can press that kind of commentary too, far, you know, and it can reveal itself to be pretty fast. I'll people do make real connections the online communities etcetera. But I do think there's a point to be made there that you know, you cannot just look at the facade that someone gives you an assimilate that person is not lonely that person does community how many people you know, sort of deliberately. Present on say Instagram a life of you know, fun and joy and parties, and whatever, but but actually like don't in their Hartsfield like that reflects their their inexperience of the world. Like, of course, that's. I mean every not everybody. But so many people do that. Right. We misrepresent ourselves or we represent ourselves. We've ever sent ourselves. If we want to be or want to be seen. But not as we really feel like we we are. Yeah. So I mean to be honest like watching this film the during its running time, I was uncomfortable. I mean, obviously, it's that's intended to make you uncomfortable. But not necessarily in a way that I found, and I think this is often my experience with with with like horror thrillers films like this is that while I'm watching it. I'm like, why am I why would I put myself through this? It's I'm comfortable, it's unpleasant. It's a it's some it's intermittently horrifying. I mean my God the moment with the cookie cutter. Whoa. Like that. Just that really shocked me and oh my God. Like really really horrified me, but at the same, but I think that effective horror films. There's just a feeling of catharsis at the win. When I survived the experience of watching it and come away from it. And it's like, and it's more, and I feel like even more safe or more like okay than I did going into it because I'd like endeared this experience vicariously and survived. But it could never really hurt me. And for me. This was definitely a film that that that works that way. Like like after the film, I had this feeling of like a lift because of the catharsis of having gone through the really uncomfortable rollercoaster ride of emotions and come out with the kind of happy ending, the the validation of friendship and connection that we get at the end. After everything that Francis has been through. So I'm yeah. I, you know, I I think I've started appreciating films like this more in in say the past, you know, ten years or so, and and for me, this is definitely a really effective entry in the in that kind of psychological horror genre. I agree. I agree. Definitely recommend wreck. It awesome. Let's move on. What's your freak out? Who wants to get started? I'll go first. So again this past week. I went to a talk by Frank Safadi. Who is for anyone who is unfamiliar with the name. Frank salty. He's a big game preservation kind of activist. Right. And so his talk was all about. The importance of game preservation, and like the realities of kind of where we're at I in in in the effort to preserve game video games and gaming history. And I you know, I think that. You know, a lot of us are are wear to some degree of of how a lot of early film history has been lost right as as films have just kind of degraded. They've just kinda fallen apart they weren't preserved. They weren't caught in time. They weren't preserved. Nobody the studios didn't didn't care to back them up or preserve them or whatever. And but but may not think about preservation as an important issue when it comes to video games. But the reality is that even though video games as a medium are considerably younger even than cinema, which is it self very young, you know, medium in the grand scheme of things like a lot of early video game games. Endgame history has been lost. A lot of source code has already been lost. Sometimes for for old for early games. All we we we may have a few advertisements or screen shots. But no actual running hardware of those games. And Frank talked a lot about how. How thank goodness for like video game piracy really on the internet for a, you know, starting in say, you know, the mid or late nineties where all these people just started cataloging and collecting the roms of old arcade and console games games that like the studios the people who had created them republish them. You know? You know, were they were not going to do anything with them because they weren't making any money off of them. They didn't they didn't care about preservation efforts. And like if people if collectors and pirates hadn't hadn't gone through the effort of of of cataloging, these things a lot more games would have would have been lost. So Frank is part of the team at digital eclipse, which which sort of turns game preservation into a commercial. Activity. They've put out things like the fortieth anniversary collection, which is a really great historical collection of of a lot of 'Send K's. Early arcade games through the eighties and maybe the early nineties. But he also has a video game history museum charitable organization that he runs an and they are working very diligently to to do everything they can to preserve video game history. And I'm, you know, I'm just so deeply invested myself in this. I think that this issue is incredibly important, and I'm really grateful to him for all of his efforts in that area. I tweeted a sort of live play by play of of the the talk so in the show description will link to like the first tweet of that thread. So that you can, you know, look at that if you if you want to, but yeah. And also, I just want to add that so Franks company is called the video game history foundation. And it's a nonprofit, and you can donate to them. If you believe in this. 'cause also when we cleaned out and close the feminist frequency office, we actually gave them all of our tropes stuff and a lot of. Ministry Quincy history, and they're going to do something with it one day, which will be really exciting. But we are so honored that they are excited about preserving that, you know, preserving our work in addition to all of this other great stuff that he's doing absolutely cool. All right. Ebony what's your freak out? My freak out is the writing excuses podcast, which is co hosted by front of the pod Mary Robinson co wall. And I'm freaking out specifically about the episode from this latest season season, fourteen called writing the other bisexual characters. It's just so the the podcast writing excuses just from their website ready. Excuses is a fast paced educational podcast for writers by writers. It's weekly. It's fifteen minutes long. They cover things from world building to magic systems, you know, characterization kind of infrastructure and logistics like it really runs the gamut. And as someone who is currently kind of stock in blocked in my fiction writing right now, this podcast has been just an amazing resource. Just listening to other writers talk about the craft of writing, especially Mary rubbing it. I could listen to talk about writing and story and structure, like cheese brilliant. She absolutely I can get you can get a little dose of that. If you listen to our episode about starship troopers. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. And they they have. So there's sort of the core cast our host, Brandon, Sanderson Hauer Tyler, Dan wells. I think in Mary, but they also rotate in other, you know, industry, folks. And so that that I really wanna point people to as when the featured k tempest Bradford. TJ barry. And like I said this one about writing bisexual characters, and it's just a really, you know, thoughtful and informative discussion about writing the other. If you are not in fact, queer yourself, and how to do it. Well, and they make a point of saying that you know, it is possible to write the other. Well, and it is perhaps more instructive to give people constructive. Good examples rather than constantly be pointing out the ways in which people fail doing this. But they bring up all kinds of great things about, you know, making sure that you're writing, you know, three dimensional characters nuance to characters multilayered characters. They talk about the issue of like by erasure the ways in which by sexuality has been treated or not treated and fiction. It was just a really great and yet sustained discussion about it. So we'll put the link up to that particular episode. But again, it's the writing excuses podcast. And it's fantastic. I think it's very interesting. Whether you are a writer yourself, or if you're just a reader, you know, listening to working writers talking about the way that they go about creating is absolutely fascinating. So that's what I'm freaking out about us. I'm I'm gonna forget about a couple of things that GD see they game developers conference that just happened. One my favorite section every year is the control all GD C section on the show floor, which is ultimately, alternative hardware games. So they're all games that are trying to do something new with how to play if that makes sense. So there was one game. Where like there's literally a rope and you have to like pull the rope to climb in the game. For example. There's a the hell couch which was literally standing and sitting on a couch was the like the actual mechanic, the one that stuck out the most to me that I had so much fun. Playing was the an eight player any s controller. So what what's his name Patrick Lemieux? He is a professor at an assistant professor at UC Davis. What he did was he took an A N E S controllers, and he took all of the buttons off except for one. So each controller only has one button, so one controller had the left one controller. A right one has up one hundred down right? One has a b whatever. And I GD C you could play tetris with a group of people and you have to play with these controllers. And it was so awesome. I loved it so much, and it's really interesting way of co-op because one like you don't have time to sit and be like, well, what do you think is the best decision? You're sort of like frantically yelling things and at some point while we were playing like we just became instinct like the fort we played with four people, and we just like kind of knew what everyone wanted to do, and it was such a delay. And I just for the record will say we would've very easily broken the high record if we didn't all have to go do other things. So that is my challenge for next time that I'm going to break that the high record score on tetris with eight controllers. The other thing I went to was a it was a party called delete GD. And this is by folks in Melbourne Australia. They've done these events over there a bunch and the idea is that they ask game designers to build a game. You know, I think you can't spend more than three or four hours building the game. It is shown only at the party. And then at the end of the party, they are all deleted and can never be played again, while we gotta we gotta get Frank Sofala beyond that to make sure those games are preserved. I no, no, no, they're gone forever. So one of the games that I played. There was made by a bunch of game development studios up studios. Jesus students, and it was a game where you bake a cake, and you decorate a cake and what I liked about. I mean, it's got that weird. Like like physics stuff. That's just goofy. Right. Where you're like milk is splashing everywhere. And you can't hold the. Jug properly in that sort of thing. But what I think they did really? Well, was when you're done decorating the cake, and you say, I'm done it disappears. And it says come back at midnight to see your cake. So it's not just that. Like, the games are all gone. It's this game actually built in this function to encourage people to come back to this screen, and what happened at midnight was all of the cakes exploded and got smushed and then the game got deleted. And it was it was just it was really delightful. And I thought it was a a lovely premise, and you know, kind of a fun a fun experience. So all right this week. We have a listener out from Sierra. So my freak out is a documentary called nine eleven the uprising. If follows the women who participated in led the first into Fata in Palestine in the nineteen eighties. Knits amazing story, but the role women play in movements and activism. It was made directed by the ward winning. Julia Bochum, and it's just so emotional investigating the movie really affected me. Because of the unique story these women in the first intifada, but also the way their stories are similar to those of women in other social movements that can do things that men can't do in perform most of the on the ground organizing. The take over the movement when men are imprisoned or exiled in perform leadership jobs, but when negotiations star in the men aren't let out of prison or vited back from exile women are Nord cut out of the negotiation process. It's intensely. Frustrating to watch the metric sept- the final treaty that does not mean list of their demands in with signed by men with no women in the room. But also uplifting to see what? Women were able to accomplish it reminded me of the anti-apartheid South Africa the Black Panthers. The United States. Unfortunately, it's hard to find a way to watch it currently. But I saw it when it came to the bay area, and they have a list of screenings on their website. So see if it's coming to a place near you. I can't recommend it highly enough. Thank you, so much fear for submitting that forget that sounds awesome. We are so excited at how many of you are submitting your freak out than we're so excited to share them. All so if you want to get in on this fun game and make us excited. Head over to them to frequency dot com slash freak out. That is F R E Q. Oh UT. All right L that is it. You can catch us back your every single Wednesday, hopefully future Wednesdays will sound less like this. But at least they one is going to sound like this coming up in the future. I know I feel like I should just step back and let you to get like super deep in. You know, I should just like remove myself from this podcast. That was always conversation to listen to. Stay tuned for the freaking after party, which is only available to backers of this podcast, which you can so easily be just head over to patriot dot com slash them. Freak. Thank you to everyone that has already joined us over there. It's a delight when we love having you if you're enjoying the show, please rate interview us on I tunes, and I'm way too tired to think of a place for you to tell your friends when you're trapped in a box with the dolls tell the other dolls, maybe Jesus. Yeah. That worked check out all of our work and our other podcasts at feminist frequency dot com. And be sure to follow us on Twitter at fem freak to stay up to date on all of the news. You can find me at a Nieta Sarkisian. Caroline, michelle. I am what's in the box. Our producer, Phil circuits who also composer theme music technical support by Sarah, Sarah's production assistance by Taylor. 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Mon. 12/23 - Armie Hammer and Ryan Phillippe Probably did Sponcon for Saudi Arabia
"Welcome to the celebrities ride home for Monday. December twenty third twenty nineteen. I'm your host Kate Raft. It's Christmas week. It's Hanukkah Week. There's a lot going on right. Now clearly I'm unraveling at the seams. Because last night I accidentally dyed my hair grey and now I look like a sweet silver-haired grandma so when you listen to today's episode just imagine. My voice is coming from my celebrity obsessed Mrs Claus type. I guess. Today's topic's bill. Hader and Rachel Vilson dating tons of CELEBS are getting called out for doing spawn con for Saudi Arabia. Miley Cyrus and Cody Simpson aren't broken up. Or maybe they are and as a parting in Christmas gift to you all. We're going to do a little dive into the timeline of Greta. GERWIG and Noah Baumbach relationship. Here's what you missed today in the world of celebrity celebrity news. Where were you when you found out bill? Hader and Rachel bill sin. We're in a serious relationship. Personally I was home in my kitchen pouring myself a cup of coffee checking twitter then. The mug crashed to the floor. Coffee sprayed everywhere chunks of ceramic landed around my feet. But I didn't care because Rachel Belsen was spotted getting coffee with bill hater in his hometown of Tulsa Oklahoma. And that's all that mattered. It's all that matters. The a couple got coffee at starbucks. Like I said they held hands. They were photographed. Bill Haters family. was there TMZ reported it. I mean Rachel. Bilton went went home with Bill Hater for the holidays. I love this. I would watch a hallmark channel Christmas movie about this happening. I just in fact it is. It's the movie to me. This piece of news is a movie. And it's my favorite movie L. Dot Com covered. This outing and gave some background on Rachel and bills history together. They wrote quote rumors about the couple date back to early November when hater was photographed on a date with bill sin according to US weekly the pair. In fact have history. Together they appeared in two thousand thirteen's the to do list which was directed by haters Mao. Ex Wife Maggie Carey and had a sexy together. Both Bilton and hater are two years out from. I'm divorce. She separated from husband. Hayden Christianson in September twenty seventeen and the two share a five year old daughter. Briar Rose Hater and Kerry split let in July two thousand seventeen and have three daughters together and quote. Listen the holidays. They're a stressful time. Everyone's a mess right now. We really needed needed. This good news. Why is it good news? I don't I don't know it just feels good you know. This is a piece of celebrity news. That's it's safe. It's warm it's wholesome. It's the holidays are all about Rachel. Bilton and Bill Hader invented Christmas to me. That's just my personal religious beliefs. The biggest weirdest and definitely most curse story of the day is definitely the fact that celebrities celebrities and influencers got allegedly paid by the Saudi Arabian government to attend and post about the MD L. Beast Festival in Riyadh Saudi Arabia. This past weekend you know Saudi Arabia the country. WERE THEY SEGREGATE PEOPLE BY GENDER and punish homosexuality with death you you know. The country allegedly behind the murder of journalist. Jamal Khashoggi Yup Dot Saudi Arabia some of the notable celebs and influencers who attended the event are are armie Hammer. Ryan Phillipi Ed Westwick Olivia Coposu via Ritchie. Scott Disick Joan smalls Allesandra Ambrosio Jordan done Stella Maxwell Arena shake former the festival included Aphrodisiac Steve. Ao Ghee David Guetta and see me Hayes. Obviously the backlash to this was huge. People are pissed. I'm Piz one of the first outlets to call. This out was diet product. Who wrote in A WELL-CRAFTED WELL-CRAFTED I g post quote? What's worse than An? All white at revolve influence her trip. Cashing big fat check. In exchange for HASHTAG CONTENT CREATION CREATION AKA propaganda to rehabilitate the image of Saudi Arabia. A country said to be causing the world's worst humanitarian crisis. According to the united the nation's according to anonymous sources six-figure sums were offered for attendance and Geo tagged posts end quote twitter user at Zara Rahim called out celebs on this paid sponsored content trip saying quote my friend at PF picardy just flagged that there's a group of celebs and influencers on a free image injury habit trip to Saudi Arabia. Did you know you could not go to places that dismember journalists murder queer people and violently oppressed women under the guise of religion and quote writer and podcast on me not to so also chimed in writing quote would love to know which PR firms Kingdom of. Saudi Arabia hired to do you. Its Image Rehab sick to see celebs and influencers shamelessly promoting this nonsense and quote pretty much every single person who attended and posted about this event and is now getting flooded with comments calling them out for this behavior. Actor and ex husband of Reese Witherspoon Ryan Filipi responded to the backlash tweeting quote. We're all human off in another tweet. He wrote quote. Your government is without fault cool. I've never known of one progress in change. Take time it is happening. Opening here and was an awesome place to visit is closed with tongue out EMOJI and quote. Yikes I mean. That's a big Ole. Yikes some people are reporting adding that the influencers invited on this trip offered six figure like I said earlier but yes shar. Elite tweeted kind of a blind item. Thing saying quote a major film slash TVs. He's jar tells me that she and her husband were offered eight figures through their representatives to go on this trip but declined and quote in case. You're bad at math. Eight figures means Over ten million dollars. That's insane. I'm dying to know who this film slash TV star and her husband are by the way this blind item couple that I just talked about. Weren't the only people to turn down this lucrative offer according to Pink News. Emily Radic Hausky declined. This offer in the article on Pink News they wrote quote in a statement addressed to Diet Prada Radic Hausky explained why she declined to attend the festival quote. It's very very important to me to make clear my support for the rights of women the Lgbtq community freedom of expression. And the right to a free press I hope coming forward on this brings more attention to the injustices happening. Here and quote. Pink News also wrote about Army Hammers Bizarre praise of the festival. They summed up his instagram captions. Saying quote praising the festival armie Hammer declared that it felt like a cultural shift although the culture hasn't shifted far enough to stop punishing homosexuality with public whippings chemical across the life imprisonment torture and death and quotes. Okay so Miley Cyrus. And and Cody Simpson aren't broken up or are they. I'm confused. I think there may be broken up but maybe maybe I'm wrong. I mean what do I know who who am I in this world. I'm no one. Here's what I do know. Everyone thought that Miley and cody broke up this weekend. Because Miley posted something thing vague about being lonely writing in caption quote even with a house full of family and friends. I still feel alone and quote the next day after. This is fake. Post about loneliness cody. Her boyfriend was photographed out and about with a playboy model. So if it looks like a break-up and acts like a break up and smells like break-up everyone probably thinks it's break-up but then cody's sister Alli Simpson spoke out to the Daily Mail insisting that Miley and cody are still thing. Allie clarified. That Jodi the playboy model he was seen with is actually the girlfriend of cody. Simpson's friend Ryan McCarthy. So maybe they're not broken up but then then I saw this article on page six. That saying cody was out late last night into the wee hours of this morning that source told page six quote. He was drinking being in Fullerton with girls. He was texting Miley. While they're the source also added quote. He was with all these girls and one was almost fainting and he kissed her on the Lips Lips with no tongue end quote. I love that this source. who leaked this gossip to page? Six somehow knows that there was no tongue involved in the kiss. I personally I choose to believe that this source is a little Goblin that lives inside. Of Cody Simpson's mouth. Well other they're broken up or not always remember the couple fondly especially the time time they announced they were starting a band called bandit and Bardo rest in peace bandit and Bardo or not engage us together and what's going on. Aw Aw Hilary Duff. Got Married this past weekend at her home in La to her longtime boyfriend and father one of her kids Matthew Koma according adding to source who spoke to people who quote the wedding was at her house it was small and low key only family and close friends. The ceremony started at sunset and they got married it inside the house. When the ceremony was over guests cheered? The reception was in a white tent in the backyard. The source adds her sister. Healy was very involved in the wedding adding prep to Hillary and Haley are very close and quote. I love this was the source. Was this source Haley. What if the source was Hayley and she just wanted to add that she and her her sister are very close and I also like the part of that quote where the source says guests cheered what funny little detail that the guests cheered? And I'm glad that we now know that the guests at Hillary Duff sweating did in fact. Cheer well I don't have a lot of thoughts on this like a winter wedding. I like when weddings are close close to or on actual holidays because it's very inconvenient for the wedding guests and in my opinion the best weddings are weddings. That kind of troll you a little bit anyway anyway looked at the photos. Hilary Duff looks very good. She's got a great dress. Hillary did some wedding dress video thing with Vogue in case you love wedding content. Go check that got out. Hilary Duff posted about wedding on her instagram and acute pick of her and Matt. They're standing in front of a station wagon. That says just married on the back. It has like little cans ends dangling on strings a classic wedding shot the caption on the post. Just said this anyway. It's the holidays. So I'm GONNA generously gift you with Awesome Boring bullet-point facts about Hillary and Matt. Here we go. They're both thirty two years old and other one is. He's a singer songwriter. He wrote that Song. That's like if this tragedy Eddie. The that said Song by the way they've been together. Since early early 2017 they had a daughter together banks violet bear on October twenty fifth. Two thousand eighteen. Hilary Duff also has a son from her previous marriage with Mike Comrie his name is Lucas Cruz. He's eight and that's GonNa be it for the bullet point facts about Hillary Duff and Matthew Comas Relationship Noah Baumbach film marriage story is getting word season. Buzz has and actually so. Is Greta Gerwig film little women which means were in a rare publicity cycle where Noah Baumbach and his romantic partner. Greta Gerwig wake are both doing press at the same time. Some of them are even join interviews. And they're both dodging questions about their relationship. Everyone knows that marriage story semi autobiographically graphically follows no was twenty ten through twenty thirteen divorce with actress. Jennifer Jason Leigh in the movie spoiler alert by the way Adam drivers character cheats cheats on Scarlett Johansson character with a younger woman who he works with and this happened while they were still married. Some people are saying that the cheating plot point might hint at had an affair between Greta. GERWIG and Noah Baumbach. Who did actually work together on the film Greenberg while Noah was still married to Jennifer? Jason Leigh Greta And no one got together and became a couple right after he left. Jennifer Jason. Leigh was there some sort of overlap. There was there any cheating we don't know but the fine the folks over at Oh. No they didn't one of my all time favorite CELEB- gossip sites did a deep dive. And they wrote up an actual timeline of Noah in Grad his relationship. And it certainly only feels like something sketchy may have happened. There post reads quote early. Two thousand ten. Baumbach forty-one Directs Greenberg about a carpenter who hooks up with a much younger personal personal assistant played by Greta. Gerwig who was then twenty six Lee forty eight shared a writing credit with Bob Hawke on the film March. Two thousand ten Greenberg is released. Lee gives birth to their son November. Twenty ten Lee files for divorce. Their son is a months old. GERWIG becomes bomb box. New Partner Muse and collaborator collaborator and quote additionally owner. They didn't report it. That no one in Grad. I did a joint interview during the press rounds for Francis Haw in April two thousand thirteen where they insisted insisted. They didn't start dating until after his marriage ended. The divorce was legally finalized a few months after that interview in October of two thousand thirteen. Oh no they didn't as saying saying that. The timeline is quote sketchy other people agree summer. Even speculating that Greta no got together. While Jennifer was still pregnant twitter user at platypus underscore shark mark. wrote quote noticed. Adam driver Noah Baumbach saying that Scarlett Johansson Jennifer Jason. Leigh didn't have sex with him for the last year so him cheating with Greta. GERWIG GERWIG was okay but JJ L. was pregnant when we left her. So and then they added a Gif of during the real housewives of New York saying saying. I'm a math teacher. And it's not adding up for me. Another twitter user at dying since ninety seven wrote quote the way in which Greta and Noah. We'll have decided to do this. Promo together even though they know they're going to be asked about the relationship and timeline and Jennifer but they don't care because they want to be the golden olden couple of Hollywood like my God have some shame and quote so basically people were speculating. That cheating plotline in the movie marriage story has Asadollah Greta Gerwig and some of the time line of events backs this theory up. I personally love the this drama is going down because because it feels very messy and Noah Baumbach and Greta Gerwig feel like they're very much trying not to be the types of celebrities that are embroiled in scandal so he you know that part of it's fun to watch anyway. Everyone you should all be reading. Oh no they didn't they are my personal woodward and Bernstein Goodbye everyone it's been a great. You know first couple of weeks here. I am taking a little. Oh break for the holidays just the next three days. I'll be back on Friday. I've been kate raft. You could follow me at Kate. Ross on everything thinks to fried who media and my co producer engineer. Jack Allison leave us a review on apple podcasts. I mean that's all I want for Christmas and Hanukkah. Give me presence in the form of positive reviews of my podcasts. Ya Yes safe travels safe. You know holiday partying and let's hope the celebrities do some wild and crazy holiday stuff in the next few days so that we have something about on Friday personally. I'm hoping that there are a few corny Christmas proposals in these celebrity crowd. I mean there's got to be at least one this year right okay. That's it by Friday hello.