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Coming Soon - A COVID-19 Vaccine 11/11/20
"The headlines from news dot com. hi. I'm mexico right and measure buckler. And this is the latest from the newsroom. It's wednesday the eleventh of november. Well the health minister. Greg hunt has revealed that a covid nineteen vaccine will be available to these in march next year the government has ordered ten million doses of vaccine which has been proven to be ninety percent. Effective h person needs turned houses of the vaccine with frontline health workers and the elderly set to receive it. I those who received the vaccine in trials compared it side effects to that of the flu vaccine including headaches and seoul mouse in other news and the strike federal police rescued forty six kids from the grips of their alleged abuses in one of the biggest child. Sexual abuse cases ever detected in australia placing queensland youth wiles. And w i have arrested fourteen men including a childcare worker and a soccer coach on eight hundred and twenty eight charges of the men are accused of sexually abusing children who ranged in age from sixteen months to fifteen years and recording the abuse to online to the us now enjoy. Baden has already made major plans for his first day in the white house in january. He's planning to scrap a number of actions taken by donald trump. He's going to reverse the decision to leave. The world health organization will rejoin the paris climate action agreement and will reinstate a program which will allow thousands of illegal immigrants to remain in the us. A we'll be back in. Just a moment on wilson has opened up about what inspired her to get in shape. This year the perfect star has dropped more than twenty kilos since december he. She is on drew. Barrymore talk show. I think what i mainly suffer from was emotional. Aiding and dealing with the stress of becoming famous internationally in there is a lot of stressful stuff that comes with it. I guess my way of with just eating denounce rigging on the mental side of things. Why was i doing that. Why am valuing myself going rebel and finally been the beckham. jonathan raise myers is in jail. The acta has been arrested for drunk driving after crashing. His car in malibu. The stars battle with alcoholism has been well documented over the years. It's believed he's had up to six months in rehab and just reminder if you'd like the chance to win a spring into pack which includes a fifty five inch samsung tv and it will always give god head denise dot com slash weaned right now from the newsroom. We'll be back with another update in the morning food from the newsroom. At news dot com.
Australia's Biggest Vaccine Bet 24/11/10
"From the newsroom. At news dot com. I'm andrew buckler and this is the latest from the newsroom. It's tuesday the twenty fourth of november. Australia's biggest vaccine bet will be applied for approval. Wakes if not serena after results showed that oxford university's candidate produced up to ninety percent effectiveness. The vaccine is now on track to be rolled out in march. That's according to health minister. Greg hunt australia has ordered thirty. Three point eight million doses. Most of which will be made by. Csl in its factory. Meanwhile quanta ceo. Alan joyce has indicated that a covid nineteen vaccination will be a non-negotiable condition of international air travel. Mr joyce has repeatedly warned that international travel warrant regime until there's a vaccine available for staff and travel is. He's on a current affair. We are looking at changing or terms and conditions to say for international travelers at that we will ask people to have a vaccination before they can get on the aircraft What do you need that domestically. We'll have to see what happens. Cova nineteen and in the market but certainly for international visitors coming out on people leaving the country. We think that's in the sesame. Now questions have been raised on whether or not qantas's position is legal and the consequences for antibac- overseas now and another of donald trump's closest allies has imploded the us president to recognize. The election is over and concede stephen schwartzman executive of the blackstone group which mr trump to allow president elect joe biden to transition into the white house. It comes as more than one hundred. Former republican national security officials have also signed a letter demanding potty latest announced on trump's refusal to concede. We'll be back after this and member of manley's top thirty and our else caught keith. Teat miss dodd hospital after falling. Ill at a segel's training session yesterday morning. He had a pizza sustained severe cramps in fatigue after the two hour training session. That's horrible news. Let's finish on entertainment and drew barrymore's talk is under fire after gave away a fairy child waiting to a couple in the us This is a bit weird one. The couple have a twelve year age difference right and i said on the show that they met in school through mutual friends. K but social media uses have since climbed. That's not quite true. They claim the couple met when the man was a twenty nine year old physics teacher and she was his seventeen year old street. Oh gosh what. Drew barry off to The cher hasn't commented on that could situation from the and moving back with another update in the headlines. From news dot com.
Vaccine Just Weeks Away 25/01/21
"In the newsroom at news dot com andrew buckler and. This is the latest from the newsroom. It's monday the twenty twentieth of january. Australia has approved. The nation's first covid nineteen vaccine allowing the first jobs to be rolled out wakes frontline hotel quarantine stuff and health workers will be the first to get the approved vaccine which has been made by five health minister. Greg hunt is on track to have the majority of the population vaccinated by october in avenues. Eight-year-old man has been arrested and charged with the sexual assault of a ninety two year old woman in sydney. The man allegedly broke into the woman's time on saturday morning and physically and sexually assaulted her before stealing a wallet and cash and flaying. The woman was traded cuts and bruises and has now been released from hospital and is being looked after by family members. He's detective acting superintendent. Chris got out on to- j. bay in a very very confronting suing obviously You know when you're doing some of the most vulnerable members of our community to say something. This is probably one of the most appalling things that signing thirties poisoning overseas now. Donald trump is reportedly moving forward with plans. To create a new political party called the patriot. Party mr trump is instructing aides to pay primary challenges against republicans who opposed his claims of election. Fraud all voted in the house to impeach him for his role in the capital. Riots according to the washington post the threat is intended to give him leverage to put pressure on republican senators to against convicting him in his upcoming impeachment trial. We'll be back in a moment to show. His now. in another woman has come forward with disturbing claims about actor army hammer. Twenty two year old model page. Laurenz dated the actor for four months late last year. She claims he kept mannequins in the basement of his family. Home to learn how to tie up women she also said hamma was into not play and cobb led a into her skin above her p barn before licking the bloody wound away. A hammer called the allegations tightly unsure and in other news courtney kardashian has a new boyfriend. The reality star is dieting. Blatant when i turn drama travis box eh to have been friends for years but things became romantic about a month or two ago. Courtney of course has three children with her ex scott disc. That's if this episode from the newsroom. i'll be back with another day tomorrow. Morning headlines dot com.
Piers Morgan Has Quit Good Morning Britain 10/03/21
"From the newsroom at news dot com the andrew buckler and this is the latest from the newsroom. It's wednesday the tenth of march. The quyen has finally issued a statement in response to harry and meghan tell all interview it said the whole family is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging the last few years have been a harry and meghan the issues rice particularly that of rice concerning while some recollections may vary. They taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately. Harry megan and archie will always be much loved family members mainly british personality. Ps morgan has quit. Good morning britain. Now morgan has been a vocal critic. Prince harry and meghan markle earlier. He stormed off the show. And when a co host condemned his repeated attacks on the couple. I understand that. You don't like mega. Marco understand that you've got a personal relationship and she cut you off. Has she said anything about houston. She cut you off. I don't think she has but yet you continued to trash okay. I'm done with this. And then there's no that's not sorry causes absolutely diabolical behavior in other news. Federal health minister greg hunt spent last night in hospital as suspected to have an infection and was kept overnight for observation. Mr hunt is the third morrison government minister tight labor to health issues attorney. General christian pota- is on indefinitely after the fallout over historical ripe allegation which he has strongly denied and defense minister. Linda reynolds extended medical. Leave into two after being assessed for a pre existing heart condition will be back in a moment to the us. Now and president. Joe biden's two german shepherds have been sent back to delaware embiid a secret service agent. The dog involved in the incident is code. Major sources have said. He's displayed agitated behavior on multiple occasions in the white house including jumping and charging stuff naughty boy and finally to entertainment singer. Holiday sidewinder has revealed how much she received in royalties after song was featured on reynaud. Show the block in a twitter post. The singer said she received just seventeen dollas off the channel. Nine show used song inn. She also added that she doubts the producers of the show. I realized the song is actually about philandering and mutual masturbation. Yeah let's say they probably didn't realize that. Hey if you uncover tips and tricks on how to leave well. Checkout had to be happy the podcast well. He's debris talks to experts celebrities and ordinary people about their secrets for a happy life. You can listen on apple podcasts. Spotify today that's this episode of from the newsroom. I'll be back lighted. Sava your update from news dot com.
Melbourne's lockdown is a week old. Why no decline in cases?
"This is an ABC podcast. Hello this is Carolina cost a podcast. The coronavirus I'm health reported teigen Tyler on physician journalist Alter Norman swollen. It's Thursday the sixteenth of July. The Health Minister Greg Hunt has described Melvin as the of our lives, and awake on Melbourne's being looked for a week. This still having more than two hundred cases a day. When are we expecting to say decline? In cases well, you should be starting to see it now and over the next few days. It just really depends on how much circulating virus that is there hopefully with mesler testing they're doing that. They are getting on top of it. And knowing where all the cases are the sort cases under investigation. The key statistic is how many unknowns they are. There are those unknowns. Do reduce over time as their investigations in their genomics proceed. Steadily looks as though most of it's coming from the hotel quarantine outbreak in some ways. That's good news. The reason I'd say that it's good news is that you're not seeing it from other surprising sources you've got to a single source which shoot mean that tracking becomes easier. One of nightmare scenarios, and there are plenty of nightmare scenarios I suppose is that there were multiple sources in terms of the origin of this current outbreak of the series of outbreaks, because quite a lot of. If it is all tracked back to the hotel quarantine, maybe not good news for the people who were responsible for the hotel quarantine, but probably good news for the state is that you can track that and it didn't mean at the time that there was coming from circulating virus in the community and the war, circulating bars in the community in Victoria at that time, so if you could get this under control, you could get back to a situation where the community spread is very very limited or indeed getting back to zero, which is hopefully the way Victoria was? So it's too early to panic and say this is out of control. Hopefully they know where things are coming from, and the genomics is helping. They've got no more people coming in from. See's at the moment, so they're really just managing what they've got and we've got a ring fenced city so hopefully. This is the situation that's needed to get it under control too early to panic. We've got that chief health officer, Sutton, saying the new numbers are showing signs of some stabilization, the raw numbers it. We're getting sort of reported in the media. Daren't really seemed to be reflecting that but. They would have information that could indicate if it was stabilizing on on assume it's coming from The data was I was just talking about this just where it's come from where it's going to have the got tabs on it is contact tracing getting in there. And they're starting to feel control over and presumably not getting too many new clusters, appearing in the Senate doesn't seem that way and remember clusters things to look for when you look at the statistics here, but new clusters are the thing to look out for. This is an infection that requires a cluster to trampoline out into the general community well. We had a cluster at the crossroads POB in Sydney. Sydney and Leonis asking about that she's saying if the Victorian outbreak hadn't sparks that outbreak there in Sydney would new south. Wales have effectively eradicated covid nineteen. Well. Let's get the terminology right eradicated. No, because we're continuing to bring people in from overseas and hotel quarantine, and they're showing up positive, and that's going to be increasingly. The case that show up positive given us more and more virus overseas. And, there hasn't been a Lico Photo Corinthian and you South Wales. He never advocate because you keep on bringing in. Have they eliminated spread well South Wales was getting much closer to that than Victoria, but there was still some circulating virus, indecisive whales and the health authorities were warning about at, but we're getting pretty close so this particular outbreak. They were really seeming to get on top of it. Audiences the best moment and I love talking to US via ABC. Dot Net Slash Karrar. Let's talk to a couple of comments. Today Francis is referring to out bumping conversation and they're saying that they think that L. bumping is actually bad, because it ignores the one point five, a social distancing rule francis saying we should be calling it out. Look up with you. Francis I didn't admit to give giving my answer elbow bumping like elbow bumping seems pretty stupid. Do you think tune? Disagree I feel like such a brief break of the one point. Five meters distance. It feels like a very low risk way of greeting someone without getting too much up in this space, so you like the touch. You gotTA. Have the touch I guess so yes. We've got another comment from Craig on loose-fitting Mosques and Craig's unconvinced by comments about the efficacy of loose-fitting face. When it comes to reducing the amount of small aerosol particles practice inviting you to speak further about this yesterday. You were really saying it's important for people to be able to breathe while wearing a mask, and that feels fairly uncontroversial to me. It is fairly uncontroversial. The reality is even if you look at surgical masks that are approved for use in theater. They're not a seal. The air leaks around, and yes, sure right Craig Aerosols will escape, and even some large droplets escape. They're not perfect, but they do reduce it by significant percentage. That's all and obviously. Obviously the loser it is less. Those droplets and aerosols are confined, but if you adjust it to a level, you're breathing comfortably, but it's not feeling loose on your face. You will be reducing to a significant extent. Yes, you probably are better off with one of the Australian Standards Masks, but in the absence of that. If you have masks, that's triple layer, you can breathe comfortably, but isn't too loose. You will not protect everybody around you perfectly, but you will greater than not having a mess on a tall right and Jeremy's got up statement to that. Your emphasizing how important face masks are to stop you from passing covid nineteen to others but Jeremy wanted is where the people might be more likely to wear them if they think they're acting in their own interests, and should we be emphasizing the protection that mosques give to the where well Jeremy I think one of the things I've seen it or In, but I think one of the things I've seen in this pandemic is that and the statistics bear it out? When we were in lockdown across Australia eighty percent of Australians for complying with that, there was staying home. They were doing the right thing, and that's why we've flattened the curve. It was really impressive, and they didn't just do that because they were terrified for themselves and protecting themselves, some people aware because there were older with other conditions, but most people were doing it for the rest of the Community Yep. There was a minority of people who broke the rules. SURE SO I! Think we've shown a lot of community altruism during this a lot. But Jeremy if you are looking for some self chest here, there is self interest because masks will protect you. It's just that if you want. A guarantee of protection can't be guaranteed, and the level of protection is probably less to yourself is to others, but it's still not a bad idea, and it probably just reminds you to keep your distance absolutely way than fee self with them for the people around you, but also let wearing mosques dissuade you from doing the other things that we know. Prevent the spread social distancing had hygiene and following the other health advice in your area. So. Let's talk about some research. MADERNA's M.. A vaccine has had a bit of a write up in one of the journals. What is it saying so? This is a really interesting vaccine from Derna. Marina is a little package of messages or a single message is transmitted into the cell, and really tells the cell to produce the antibodies to the coronavirus, so instead of using the virus to stimulate the immune reaction. Or the immune response. They're actually using a message genetic message to tell them to do it, and it's cleaner. The reckon that they can manufacture it faster and the potentially is good fewer side effects because the virus is not there, so it's kind of untried semion chide. Technology has been around for a while, and let's hope it works, and this is a phase. One study, which is a safety study of which was also does finding because. One reason why vaccines fail at phase three, which is an efficacy study doesn't work is that they've got the doors wrong? And by then it's too late to kind of go back and find out what went wrong with the dose levels here. They think they've found the right doors. which are lower doses caused at the upper doses they did get side effects, and without the benefit of extra antibodies, so too, does vaccine here that generates significant antibodies, some side effects at high doses, which were reasonably troubling. But complicated story, but good news moving forward into the next phase because they sort of dangers with the vaccine, isn't there one is that it doesn't work? It doesn't protect you against the pathogen, the virus and the other is that it sort of is so effective that you buddy kind of freaks out. When does encounter the virus? Schlundt so it's sort of a bit promising. How how much promise do we put on these vaccine? Compared to the other ones that are in development hud full over the first stage. That's good and I think there are a few vaccines. They're. Phase one adult any I don't think any of them fallen over yet at one, so I think the the vaccines out there that have got to trial are safe in their own right or relatively safe. The next stage is to find out whether they're effective and with her, and just producing an antibody doesn't tell you whether it's effective. It's GonNa. Be tested out in reality because they. They may be producing the wrong kinds of antibody here, so it's good that it seems to be producing antibodies at high levels, but does that transfer to protection. We've yet to see but look. It's great. We've got these vaccines out there. Do seem to be flowing through the system nor roadblocks yet, but the roadblocks are usually occur at the phase. Three study noted the phase one fascinating. Well, that's all we've got time for on corona cost today. 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Mon. 04/13 - Apple and Google to the Rescue?
"This is the Corona Virus Morning Report for Monday April Thirteenth Twenty twenty. I'm Brian McCullough two steps back along with today's one step forward. Numbers is Britain on track to have the highest fatality rate in. Europe is Florida under counting deaths from snowbirds a deep dive into the Google and apple contact tracing technology. It's hard to believe at this moment in time but medical staff are actually getting laid off right now and more on what it's like to be on a ventilator but more importantly what it's like to come off of one to as I said today has been a day of retrenchment in terms of good news the US over the weekend became the first country in the world to report two thousand deaths in a single day relating to corona virus. Almost one hundred new cases were reported in China that were linked to people returning to China from Russia. Another small study of chloroquine use in corona virus patients was halted in Brazil as patients in the trial again. Developed irregular heart rates and eleven out of the eighty-one patients in the study died after six days Singapore. Which has long been held up as a place that handled the initial response to the outbreak. Well confirmed two hundred and thirty three new cases and seven new clusters overnight making that the second highest daily increase in the country so far what is especially worrying is that. Singapore has not seen any imported cases for three days which might indicate local transmission. There has picked up again and the Japanese island of Hokkaido which had previously ended. Its stay at home. Orders has reversed course and entered a new state of emergency quote. We are facing a crisis of a second wave. Hokkaido's governor now. Michio Suzuki told reporters people are growing steadily more concerned about the UK where we have been following the various back and forth in terms of how soon and how seriously the response to the crisis there was taken by the government there. If the latest trends continue it looks like Britain could report ten thousand dead this week alone and the worrying part of the trend is that it looks like Britain might be on a worst trajectory than Italy was officials fear that Britain's mortality rate might already be or might soon be the highest in all of Europe conversely. Spain is beginning to ease its lockdown restrictions allowing construction workers and other vital sectors to return to work this week. France however is looking to extend its lockdown even as the numbers of cases and deaths appears to be reaching a plateau in that country. Italy reported just four hundred thirty one new deaths on Sunday the lowest increase in fatalities in two weeks and for the ninth day in a row fewer people in Italy were being hospitalized in intensive care. The trend is now trustworthy. Luca Chelsea a pulmonologist. Who is on the Scientific Committee that is advising the Italian government said at a news conference putting together the drop of people being hospitalized patients in ICU? And the number of people dying. We can say that the measures that were adopted and extended are having an impact on this virus and quote Australia and New Zealand plan to keep their restrictions in place despite a sharp slowdown. In New Corona virus cases in both of those countries quote now is the time to stay the course Australian Health Minister Greg Hunt said in a news conference. We are now seeing consolidation of the flattening of the curve. That doesn't mean we are out of our challenge and quote and South Korea only reported twenty five new cases overnight a new low for the past seven weeks in that country with a recovery rate. Now reaching around seventy percent quoting from the Washington Post. The creator of an influential. Us KRONA VIRUS MODEL. Said a resurgence in cases is likely in the US. If the country reopens by May first and that the second wave would probably hit in July or August said Christopher Murray Director of the Institute for Health Metrics and evaluation at the University of Washington on. Cbs's Meet the press on Sunday. Murray warned the country will need to address interstate travel and trade before reopening so. The virus is not transmitted across borders in States. That have steered clear of it. He said Texas is among several states that have made exceptions to their lockdown restrictions and pose an unknown risk to other states and quote and quoting from the Washington Post and again Smithfield foods. One of America's largest pork processing facilities said it will close until further notice a forboding sign of how the pandemic may affect the labor intensive meatpacking industry quote the closure of this facility combined with a growing list of other protein plants that have shuttered across. Our industry is pushing our country. Perilously close to the edge in terms of our meat. Supply said Kenneth Sullivan the CEO of the Virginia based Meat Processing Company and quote and some worrying news out of Florida in terms of our ongoing worries relating to accurate numbers and Statistics quoting the Miami Herald on its public website. The Florida Department of Health says about fourteen hundred Floridians statewide are waiting for their corona virus test results but that's an undercount. The Department acknowledged in response to questions from the Miami Herald and it's likely a massive one. That's because state only reports the numbers of Floridians waiting to hear back from St labs not private ones and those private labs are completing more than ninety percent of Florida's tests. The state website doesn't say that it's figures exclude the vast majority of pending tests for the novel Corona Virus End Quote and quoting from the Tampa Bay times quote. The state health department is counting corona virus deaths only for people who claimed residency in Florida. Conversely the medical examiners who are legally responsible for certifying fatalities from diseases that constitute a threat to public health are counting anyone who died in Florida including snowbirds and visitors and quote in other words. Florida currently isn't counting. The deaths of snowbirds those seasonal residents from other states who reside in Florida around this time of year in their many millions. So if say in Ohio resident dies today in Florida of Corona Virus Florida doesn't count that death in official Florida death tallies. It's unlikely that Ohio would include that death in their tallies so not only could death numbers and Florida be artificially low but the knock on effect might be that death numbers nationwide could be reduced as these Florida cases merely fall through the cracks unreported anywhere. This happened late on Friday. But it's huge news relating to some things that we've been talking about a lot on the show recently tech arch rivals apple and Google announced that they are teaming up to develop a corona virus contact tracing system as we've covered extensively relentless testing combined with sophisticated contact tracing as has been implemented by countries that have successfully flat in the curve of new infections is an essential part of opening up society before a vaccine is widely available the system from the two companies which will be voluntary in nature will use Short Range Bluetooth to keep track of which phones have been in close proximity to each other official apps from public health authorities. We'll be able to access this data through application programming interfaces or API's that the two companies will release next month users who download those APPs will be able to use them to report a covert nineteen diagnosis and those same apps will then alert other users if they've been in close contact with a person that has been diagnosed. Both apple and Google say they're committed to preserving privacy throughout the process quoting from the verge unlike a some other methods like using. Gps Data this Bluetooth plan wooden track people's physical location. It would basically pick up the signals of nearby phones at five minute intervals and store the connections between them in a database if one person test positive for the novel Corona Virus. They could tell the APP. They've been infected and it could notify other people whose phones passed within close range in the preceding days. The system also takes a number of steps to prevent people from being identified even after. They've shared their data while the APP Regularly Sends Information Out over Bluetooth. It broadcasts an anonymous key rather than a static identity and those keys cycle every fifteen minutes to preserve privacy even once a person shares that they've been infected. The apple only share keys from the specific period in which they were contagious crucially. There is no centrally accessible master list of which phones have matched contagious or otherwise. That's because the phones themselves are performing the cryptographic calculations required to protect privacy. The central servers only maintain the database of shared keys rather than the interactions between those keys and quote once. The system is up and running apple and Google plan to build the functionality into android respectively at the operating system level to allow as many people to participate by opting in as possible in a joint statement. The company said quote all of us at Apple. Google believe there has never been a more important moment to work together to solve one of the world's most pressing problems through close cooperation and collaboration with developers governments and public health providers. We hope to harness the power of technology to help countries around the world. Slow the spread of cove in nineteen and accelerate the return of everyday life and quote. Some of you probably know if you know me from my other podcasts that I come from the tech industry so the Google and apple contact. Tracing news was sort of a case of my worlds colliding over the weekend from a tech perspective. It's amazing that Google and apple are joining forces as they are basically blood rivals at this moment in time but at the same point. They're the only ones who could meaningfully. Set The table for the technological tools. We might need in. Irs An android the two of them own the platforms that ninety percent of the world's smartphones run on and by actively baking these tools into the operating system level. They could potentially make it possible for any number of APPs to be built on top of that fundamental layer. The bottom line is Google and apple have laid the groundwork for exactly what we will need for the next phase of this crisis and they did so out of the blue without even being asked which is sort of amazing but this hasn't solved our problem overnight because they've done just when I said they've set the table. The question will now be who will step up to make something out of what they've done. Let me share with you. A tweet thread. That got a lot of attention in silicon valley circles over the weekend. Benedetta was formerly at square at Mazzola at Harvard and Mit and is currently the executive director at voting works and is on the board of Creative Commons. Let me quote from his tweet thread extensively last night. I spent some quality time with the docs on the new contact. Tracing Protocol and API's Day in. Google are preparing. I'm quite optimistic about this effort. Here's why I my understanding of the health experts point of view. If we want to reopen society wants hospitalization rates are down and testing is more broadly available but before we have widespread vaccination will need contact. Tracing too rapidly contain any outbreak contact. Tracing is this say you test positive? We want to very quickly find everyone. You were in contact with over the past two weeks and test them to anyone. Testing positive is then quarantine to contain. The outbreak can cell phones helped with this contact tracing obviously they can smartphones. Know where you are at all times and could dump all that Geo data into one. Big Database Query it. When someone test positive to stop in much can we do contact tracing less invasive? There's the possibility of using cell tower records but one problem it seems is that this would yield a lot of false positives because cell tower location is not sufficiently precise even if it works distortion helps keep the key idea is that we don't actually need Geo data. We just need to know who was in contact with whom during a two week span whether it was at the gym or on the bus doesn't matter for our purposes and we don't need a big database. Much of the data can stay on phones that leads to a number of similar proposals including google slash apples. Mit packed and others. That roughly do this each phone locally broadcast and identifier using Bluetooth phones then record identifiers. They see from other phones in close physical proximity phones. Change the identifier every few minutes. So that you can't correlate identifiers across long periods of time and track people and when someone test positive their phone releases the identifiers used over the last fourteen days to a database phones then download positive identifiers from the database. And if they see one that matches their list of encountered identifiers. They light up. Say you've been in contact with a positive person. You should get tested right away. Different proposals have different. Parameters for how often identifiers changed at different mechanisms for phones to prove they actually generated those claimed identifiers so disruptors can't pollute the system with false claims. There are also cool. Tricks used to reduce the amount of data phones need to upload and download the apple slash. Google proposal has phones releasing a single daily tracker from which all of that phones identifiers for. A whole day can be regenerated and authenticated so what exactly Google and apple done they defined technical details for generating broadcasting recording and revealing identifiers common across iphones and android phones. They defined an interface through which APPs can use this tracing capability. This means a large part of the tricky stuff. Generating identifiers rotating them. Finding others and recording them is done once by capable cryptographer. Very cool also. The Docs indicate that a phone won't release. Its identifiers unless the user approves also cool so this is pretty great. Data stays on the phone and release of identifiers is gained on the user. There are some knits to be debated like how Lincoln identifiers are. Could we do this? Without linking together all the daily identifiers of an individual who test positive also apple Google are not operating the database of positive identifiers themselves. At least for now. They're letting other apps do that with this. Api in place apple and Google's role could be too aggressively police the contact tracing APPs they should use the API and maybe only some are approved. Which would be good. But we're left with three big questions who's going to build the actual apps and positive identifier databases. How do we get enough users installing those apps to make contact tracing work and how do APPS decide that? A user has been truly infected. So this doesn't get abused. Here is one possible path. Forward that answers those questions in a way that I think could work well. County level. Health departments are the ones that produce the APPs maybe clumps of counties band together for example all of the San Francisco Bay area counties that means declaring a user positive would be gated on health departments. So abuse is limited. It also means a county could decide based on adoption. How safe it is to reopen. The incentives are aligned nicely. Install your county health apps so we can reopen for business another we could go and Apple. Kinda hints at this in announcement is that apple and Google could take more drastic action to strongly encourage installation of an APP. Maybe a system notification to everyone as long as apple and Google do constrain. Which APPs get to use this? Api and frown on APPs using more invasive approaches to contact tracing this direction feels quite good contact. Tracing is necessary to reopen society before vaccines. This looks like a good way to do it to more details. The reason this is pretty good for privacy is because contact tracing is designed for when the pandemic is under control and only a handful of people are testing positive everyday so only a handful of people's location data is released. Also if we're indeed going to seek county's pushing out these apps the best way to go is to have one open source implementation that can be white labeled by health departments who though is going to build the open source APP and back in that runs against these. Api's one last idea if the APP is built by a Health Department. It can help prioritize testing. Imagine showing up to a testing centre with your county health APP showing the you need to get tested screen. And you're immediately prioritized. No questions asked no insurance needed and quote if I told you that. Medical professionals are getting laid off at this moment in time. You almost wouldn't believe me right. However we know that hospitals and medical facilities across the country have been canceling elective and non urgent medical procedures to cope with the influx of corona virus patients. And thus a new report says that is having the unintended consequence of medical workers getting laid off in the middle of a pandemic the canceled procedures were for some hospitals. A main source of income now starved for revenue. Hospitals are furloughing workers or making them take unpaid leave just when their skills are needed. The most quoting from the Washington Post last week Bond Secure Mercy health which runs fifty one hospitals in seven states announced. It would furlough seven hundred workers on Wednesday ballot health which operates twenty one hospitals across Tennessee and southwest Virginia delivered. The same bad news to thirteen hundred employees and said executives would take paycuts employees at Children's National Hospital in the District of Columbia. Were informed this that they must take off one week either using vacation time or if they have none unpaid leave hospital executives and analysts emphasize that not all the furloughed fired workers are directly involved in treating cove in nineteen patients but others point out the furloughs help reduce the number of people in hospitals available to slow the spread of the virus. The absences have put a strain on doctors. Nurses and other healthcare workers treating a surge of patients that is already stretched some healthcare systems to the breaking point remaining frontline workers face longer hours and some have seen their pay cut and benefits reduced and quote. There are even concerns that the weakest hospitals may have to close their doors entirely to stabilizing the entire corona virus treatment provision in a given area the federal government has allocated one hundred billion dollars to help hospitals and other health providers offset lost income. 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Researchers at university hospitals in Cleveland are running a pilot program that will hopefully save the lives of such individuals quoting CNN patients who come into the emergency department but aren't sick enough to be admitted to the hospital are sent home with a sensor to wear on their finger. The sensor measures oxygen levels in their blood and send signals to a wrist monitor. That looks like a watch which then sends signals to their cellphone. Data then goes to a central monitoring station where doctors and nurses can monitor the patient's condition minute by minute and quote. One of the issues at play is that many patients progress to respiratory failure very quickly and when that happens they may struggle to call nine one. One Leonardo Frazier Ohio patient. Who was given one of the sensors after going to the hospital and being told to recover at home while they monitored him says the sensor saved his life when his oxygen levels dropped and his blood pressure spiked. He got a call from his doctors. Who told him to go to the emergency room? Frazier says that. He was home alone that day and might not have been able to make the call himself however even with that caveat if the sensor were rolled out on a large scale it could save countless lives. In New York City for example city councilman Mark Levin Says People Are Dying at home in such high numbers that they're not even testing them for virus he said on twitter quote. We simply don't have the testing capacity for the large numbers dying at home and quote and as we covered last Tuesday ventilators are not a panacea for surviving covered nineteen. You really. Don't want to end up on one. Because the odds of coming off at alive in the context of Corona virus are essentially a coin. Flip fifty fifty but that situation was exactly what happened to lawyer and author David Latte. Who wrote about his experience in the Washington Post this weekend Latte was admitted to New York? City's Nyu langone medical center with the Koran virus on March Sixteen and asthma sufferer. He was having difficulty breathing after four days in a stable condition. He took a turn for the worse and ended up spending six days on a ventilator quoting from his piece in the post a few days earlier after my admission to the hospital my physician. Father had warned me. You better not get put on a ventilator people. Don't come back from that as the nurses prepared me for the intimation I thought to myself. It's not my time to die. My husband and I have a two year old son. I want to see him graduate from High School Graduate From College. If he gets married or has kids of his own. Someday I want to be there. I started praying the Hail Mary over and over. Have Hazy Memories of the innovation itself. My anesthesiologist was a woman with a slight Carribean Accent and authoritative reassuring demeanor in my overwhelmed state. It seemed that a dozen people were in the room when in reality it was probably just a handful. Aided by anesthesia is soon fell asleep. I spent the next six days. Basically Asleep under sedation the ventilator serving as my lungs. I remember nothing from this period. I have since learned that some patients have nightmares or hallucinations while on ventilators so I view myself as very fortunate and quote on Day. Six last doctors face the choice of taking him off the ventilator or inserting a tube directly into his windpipe fortunately Latte was able to breathe on his own with supplemental oxygen and successfully came off the ventilator but his experience did not end there and he writes about the lasting effects of being on a ventilator quote many patients who come off later suffer lasting physical mental and emotional issues including cognitive deficits lost jobs and psychological issues such as depression and post traumatic stress disorder for me. My lungs must rebuild their capacity. I experienced breathlessness from even mild exertion. I used to run marathons now. I can't walk across a room or up a flight of stairs without getting winded. I can't go around the block for fresh air unless my husband pushes me in a wheelchair when I shower. I can't stand the entire time. I take breaks from standing to sit down on a plastic stool placed inside my bathtub being on the ventilator for almost a week damaged my vocal cords and now my voice is extremely horse. My speech pathologists expressed optimism that the damage is not permanent but only time will tell. I'm not complaining. I am incredibly grateful to be alive and for that I have the ventilator. Thank and quote. That's all for today as always the show was produced by ride home media. Talk tomorrow be well everyone.
Fears Over Effectiveness of COVID Jab 08/02/21
"In the newsroom at news dot com your buck low and this is the latest from the newsroom. It's monday the eight february. The australian federal health minister has played down concerns. The astra zeneca coronavirus vaccine up to south africa. Temporarily halted its rollout of the job. That data from an early trial showed the vaccine could prevent serious illness brought on by the south. African covid nineteen variant but offered minimal protection against mild illness. South africa had planned to administer the astra vaccine to frontline work as soon but will now offer them doses of the pfizer jab instead. Australia's health minister greg hunt. Insisted he had no concerns over the jabs effectiveness saying that data showed a prevented death also today. Prime minister scott morrison was not in the mood to discuss roy liberal. Mp craig kelly during a radio interview. Mr kelly has been accused of undermining confidence in the covid nineteen vaccine questioning public health measures touting non-approved treatments for the virus the pay 'em was grilled on radio by john laws but did his best to change the subject. Also craig kelly. All we deal with that last week. I think that they've got an auction last week. John so we no no no no no no no. It didn't get oxygen. Here i mean. Do you have your price. They'll play out of places so i think we should stick with that in other words. You're avoiding the question prime minister. It's very unlike you down to sign jon. I think it's very important that we bike some effects. That's what the government is doing and avenues a queensland. Bus driver has been hospitalized after having chemicals threatening these face no one else was on board apart from the dr oh when someone threw a chemical irritant through the bus. We note about nine thirty this morning. The driver is in a stable condition and the offender remains on. The run will be back. In a moment to schreiber's news now and channel seven has reportedly decided who will be the next host of the chase. Ustralia larry mta is tipped to take over from android kafe host of the game. Show now okay. Who was recently arrested and charged over an alleged. Domestic assault was dumped by channel. Seven at the end of last year. Now and tom brady has won his seventh super bowl his team. The tampa bay buccaneers bay. The kansas city chiefs thirty one to nine brady completed more than eighty percent of passes and threw three touchdowns in the first two quarters. Something no quarterback had done in super bowl history and hey if you need to update your tech news dot com dot. A u is giving tweet lucky rate as a brand new samsung galaxy s. Twenty one and a pair of galaxy buds. Live with fifteen hundred bucks if you want them. All you're going to do is enter it. News dot com. I use for slash win. That's this episode of from the newsroom. I'll be back tomorrow morning with another update. Headlines from news dot com.
Medical Device Behind COVID Outbreak 10/02/21
"In the newsroom at needs to come home good. I'm andrew buckler and this as the latest from the newsroom. It's wednesday the tenth of february. Will devise the vaporizes liquid into find me. These thoughts obey behind the cluster of coronavirus cases at a mobile quarantine hotel chepe health officer upright sutton made the revelation today is the state government announced the holiday inn. Quarantine site would close immediately after three cases will link to the site. Mr sutton said it's possible. Everyone who was on that particular floor. The holiday inn was exposed to the virus by the use of the device in other news. Who were fiery saints on. Abc news breakfast this morning. Host michael rolland press the federal health minister greg hunt on why liberal potty logo was included on an announcement regarding australia's vaccine rollout now. Mr hunt was a member of the liberal party dismissed the question and then hit back by climbing the highest lefty. I've listened to the government announcement who paid for the vaccines. Let us clear distinction here. I know this is an issue for you. In many ways you identify with the lift. You do this a lot. And i respect no no. I've been found offensive. I'm asking you about well. He's he doesn't identify with the lead and something a little bit of light and now a lawyer in the. Us was humiliated after he couldn't figure out how to turn an online face filter. That made him look like a cat. The judge was less than impressed when lawyer lok for the virtual court hearing with a kitten filter turned on this japan. And i believe you have a filter turned on in the video settings You might want to hear me judge. I can hear you. i think it's a filter. It adds an on how to remove it about my assistant here. She's trying to but repaired to go forward with this. I'm here live. i'm not a cat. I made what i cat's has trophy. I've who back in just a moment sport. Now and ozzy tennis player to nasi caucus has revealed that he's wearing sixdollar. Came teas while. He competes in the australian. Open this year. The ozzy las several sponsors over the past fees. He battled consistent injuries. Caucacus defeat at south korean. Kwan soon. who in the round on tuesday. Which was these first win in. Five hundred and thirty two days to entertainment now and britney spears is boyfriend has blasted her dad. Jamie sam ash. Gary says he has zero respect for britney's dad who is the singers conservator and has control over her state and finances. He's what san jose. That's just my opinion. But i'm not going to be those that his mom. Can you guys ever be on terms by hope. So once he starts treating his daughter right right then we can be on. Terms speeds is currently battling in court to get her dad removed as her conservative. And if you need to update your tech news dot com dot. A u is giving to lucky rate is a brand new samsung galaxy s twenty one and a pair of galaxy. Buds live with fifteen hundred dollars. If he want them you've go into at news dot com dot a u forward slash. Win this episode of from the newsroom. I'll be back with another update tomorrow morning. Headlines from news dot com.
Vaccine To Be Rolled Out In The UK 03/12/20
"From the newsroom. At news dot com. Hi lexie kat. Right and this is the latest from the newsroom. It's thursday the third of december we started overseas and millions of people in the uk will begin being the united within days. After the nation's healthcare regulator approved the fires up violin tech covid nineteen vaccine reports. Just the vaccine will be rolled out next week jabs could stop for people in high priority groups as and health minister. Greg hunt says the approval is an important step for the world. As as therapeutic goods administration is still considering the vaccine with a decision by the end of january now. If this is approved it could be delivered by as early as march. Twenty twenty one fingers crossed. Meanwhile new south wales health is calling on people in cds northwest to get tested if they have even the mildest covid nineteen symptoms after the state sewage silence program detected traces of the virus at a treatment plant in riverstone. Authorities are concerned. There could be other active cases in the local community and people who have not been tested. And who might incorrectly assume this symptoms that just too cold to avenues now on people with a small amount of illegal drugs in new south. Wales may soon just be let off with a talking under a proposed radical overhaul of lows sources. Say the proposal is a great chance policy that would say those caught with postal quantities of illicit drugs initially given a warning issued a fine on the second and third instance that would criminal penalties be introduced. It's understood. The government is still working out the details. Such exactly what amount of drugs would feet onto the definition of personal use. We'll take a break in entertainment now. In rebel wilson has sat down for her murder candid discussion yet opening up about her extreme weight loss. See in how. Hollywood didn't accept it. The actress hosted an hour long. Instagram live where she said she struggled with the idea of transforming her image because she being taught costing roles like a famous pitch perfect character amy. I've always wanted to be healthier. But either just like didn't feel like i have the time or Felt like over you know. They're making a lot of money being bigger and You part of my Comedic are in a lotta ways and and you know so i would. I would question. Sometimes i would lose a few key allies then gain it back finishing with some good news now in after months of speculation. Tennis australia craig. Tyley has confirmed to start the knicks cheese. Australian open will be february. I it comes as the victorian government has agreed to special conditions for australian participants. Now plays we'll have to quarantine for two weeks from january fifteen but after the quarantine period they'll be free to sty web. I won't go away. They want end play lady matches now. Do you want the chance to celebrate the end of the year with a bang. We're giving you the chance to win. A share of five thousand dollars head over to news dot com dot. edu slash wind inter christmas cash. Giveaway will that's eight from the newsroom. We'll have another update in the other. Your update from news dot com.
Tiger Woods Injured in Car Crash 24/02/21
"In the newsroom at news dot com andrew buckler. And i'm lexie kat ryan. This is the latest from the newsroom. It's wednesday. the twenty. Four february gulf tiger woods was rushed to hospital for surgery today after crushing. He's in la talk shattered an ankle and suffered leg fractures after. He rolled his vehicle and had to be freed by five. Five is using an axe tames climbs. The spokesman was seen leaving an la hotel in an agitated and impatient state before the accident. Back home now. and undefined. Defense minister. Linda reynolds has been admitted to hospital. And we'll take a media medical leave now. The hospital trip is allegedly a precautionary measure that relates to a pre existing medical condition. The news comes off to ten days of sustained pressure. I've missed reynolds handling of an alleged right in her office. In twenty nine. The senator was scheduled to front the national press club. Today to other news and doctor has been stood down from australia's covid vaccine roll out program after giving to elderly people full times. The recommended dose health minister. Greg hunt said the eight year old man and ninety four year old woman are being monitored and haven't had any adverse reaction so saw. Yeah the queensland prime annastasia. She's not very happy about this. She's asked the prime minister to convene the national cabinet as soon as possible to explain what training is provided to those administering the vaccine. We'll be back in a moment. Sherby's now no bas saints on sunrise this morning as a protestor who as zombie gnawed on a reporters Yep seven journey. Bianca stein was covering the extinction rebellion climate. Change protest in brisbane when she was attacked by zombie. Ever listen dan kanter. Good morning scary. Seines outside queensland. Paula brought swarm of has converts on queensland parliament. This'll be a peaceful protest except that he's told me that it just knowing right now. Roddy finishing spoil and it seems. Brisbane is one step closer to securing the twenty. Thirty two games there are reports. The international olympic committee will recommend the queensland capital as the preferred destination at a meeting. Tonight brisbane up against doha and budapest to be crammed. The host city. Australia hasn't hosted the olympics. Of course since way back in two thousand and high want to win some money. Have your sign our cost of living survey in being the chance to win a sheriff two thousand bucks it can into that. It needs dot com dot a youthful it slash wing. That's it for this episode from the newsroom. We'll be back tomorrow morning with another updating your headlines dot com.
Potential Border Closure to the UK 06/01/20
"From the newsroom. At news dot com. Come get your buck law. And this is the latest from the newsroom. It's wednesday the sixth of january. We'll estrella is formerly considering slamming. The border shot to international travel from the uk and south africa as a new mutant strain of covid nineteen takes hold. Australia's top cove. Advisory group is considering the option with government sources describing it as a medical question that they leaving to the health experts. It comes as the virus infected a stunning one in every thirty londoners in the wait between christmas and new year's eve meanwhile it's been announced. Australians will receive a covid nineteen vaccine two weeks earlier than expected health minister greg hunt says a vaccine will now be administered in early march. The elderly and care workers along with hotel. Quarantine boorda workers will be prioritized in the first phase of the rollout in other news. Rapper and billionaire. Dr dre is in intensive care after suffering. Brian on your resume. The fifty five year old is reportedly in a stable condition with duct is currently carrying out tests to determine what caused the blading. And high if you're a fan of tim love this news. There are four new premium fly as being released next week. There's mari river solta double truck morton by rosberg duck. Chuck kensington pride mango and cream and imboula menton estate coffee in chalk. Now this isn't an ad. But if anyone at the tim. Tam factories listening feel free to send some samples. Andrew buckler care of news dot com to you thank you. We'll take a break to show biz now and it looks like kim kardashian and kanye west marriage is over according to multiple sources. Divorce is for the hollywood couple with kadarshian hiring divorce lawyer. To the stars laura wasser came and kenya married in twenty fourteen in italy and have four children together to sport. Now and serena williams husband has five back at a romanian billionaire. Who said the tennis star should retie geeta her age and white. A on city akku owns the madrid open. Tournament said serena had a little decency. She would retire well. Serena's hubby alexa. Hannah's on has hit back calling the billionaire. A racist sexist clan. that's pretty. On the money serena williams has won twenty three grand slam singles. Titles the second. Most of all time behind margaret court. And how do you want the chance to win. One thousand bucks each week or you're going to do is play. The daily quiz at news dot com. Today you for its lush quiz and that cash could be yours. That's from the newsroom. We'll have another update tomorrow morning. Food food headlines from news dot com.
Joe Biden for the win? 05/11/20
"From the newsroom. At news dot com. Hi i'm lexie. Kat right and this is the latest from the newsroom. It's thursday november. Well it's all about the us election. Where a massive shift just seen jar biden closer to becoming the next american president. Now there are still. Millions of miles starts to camp at the democratic candidate today. One michigan and wisconsin and if he maintains his narrow leads in arizona and nevada. This will bring him to that much needed two hundred seventy electoral votes. Now as of the time of recording just five states remain up for grabs. That's alaska georgia nevada. North carolina and pennsylvania but biden said. He's confident he's winning enough states to reach the crucial amount of votes needed to win. Now after a long night of county is clear that we're winning in enough states to reach two hundred. Seventy electoral votes needed to win the presence. I'm not here to declare that. We've won. But i am here to report. The count is finished. We believe we will be the winners me. Moss both bet declared an early biden victory inside of paying out bets before the election was called. The market began paying. That's from eleven. Am surf off. Paid more than twenty. Three million dollars spoke by is still taking bets for the. Us president with trump's blowing out to about six dollars at lunchtime today. And we'll keep you updated on the us election. Today's to news dot com dot. A u for everything. You need to know back. Harm now and Health minister has said it is absolutely clear when we will be completely dated against coronavirus. Australia has now secured access to four vaccines being developed off to signing international agreement. Fatu new promising developments this week. Now bar in phase three trials and it is expected. The first vaccine will be available as early as much such good news. He's health minister. Greg hunt on becoming cautiously but progressively more high full about access for all straight ins throughout the course of twenty twenty one to vaccines so the first vaccine's are likely to be available in march and that would stop not surprisingly with health workers and the elderly booby back after these to some travel news now an airlines have ramped up the amount of flights following the announcement that new south wales will reopen. Stipe borders with victoria on november. Twenty three both qantas jetstar announced will be operating more than two hundred fifty flights awake on five. Different routes currently overruled. I've just ten return. Flights per week operating between melbourne and sydney comes as new south wales and victoria recorded zero cases of corona virus today to entertainment news. Now and it's been just over a month since the bachelor couple lucky and our rain got fairy tale ending on the shar but the path already sparked engagement room is off to the channel ten account. Impersonate a photo of the happy couple. At rhode island seems innocent enough about the the island's tourism account then chimed in congratulating the pay on their happy engagement. There's no word yet from looking iranians. So watch this space. Finishing sport news and tansy and the ict have been chosen as cities for delight. Stop to these. He's big bash. League t twenty cricket is set to kick off on december tim with initial games in hobart and canberra before moving to brisbane the gold coast and adelaide at the back end of december. Now venues will be able to fifty percent capacity for the opening rounds in a big burst for ozzy cricket fans great news if you'd like the chance to win a spring entertainment pack which includes a fifty five inch samsung tabby. And i will give cod. Denise dot com slash weaned right now from the newsroom. We'll be back with another update in the morning. Headlines from news dot com.
Two Million Australians Download Coronavirus Tracker App
"You're listening to the news at this hour. Africa Business Radio Australia. Government said nearly two million. Australians rushed to download a new smartphone approach designed to make current a virus contact trace and easier over locking privacy concerns in the hope of speeding up the end of social distance in lockdowns Health Minister Greg Hunt Hild take-up since the APP was released Sunday evening as extraordinary saying one point. Nine million people had downloaded program in less than twenty four hours. Prime Minister Scott Morrison has set many of the restrictions which include a ban on travel to Australia by non-residents will last until at least September and that was the news at this time one Africa Business Radio. You can't continue to listen life online at. Www Dot Africa business radio dot com offer amicable APP. Thank you for listening.
Why has Australia ordered so many vaccines?
"This is an abc podcast. Hello this is corona cost a daily podcast all about the coronavirus. I'm health reported in thailand. I'm positioning journalist alter norman swan friday. The fifth of february and australia's getting a lot of vaccines norman. Which is great. We've been waiting for the ages. We heard yesterday that the prime minister had said australia's secured an extra ten million doses of the father. Biontech vaccine which is one that At least judging by the questions that we get a lot of demand for because it's got a really high reported efficacy right but will say getting millions of devices of the astra zeneca vaccine and some for novak says well if you add them altogether one hundred and fifty million doses and we don't have that many people in australia. So why have we ordered so much. Insurance policy is one of them so for example in the post marketing might as well call post marketing or post used surveillance. I suppose one hundred million people were more as we speak have been immunized around the world. That'll be. That's almost either date as soon as i speak the words. But it's still possible that has more vaccines come on the market. That rare but serious side effects emerge so far not unlikely the stage. But you'd want to have a bit of insurance is leaving case that happens then there's insurance about transmission control the strongest evidence on transmission control. Actually at the moment comes from the astros trial. We're the claiming now under think we the the data have been published but it's sixty seven percent effective at reducing transmission. Well if that's the case yesterday vaccine the astra vaccine if that's the case roughly the same as the level which should prevent disease if you're giving two doses three or four weeks apart so then you would assume on a scale up basis visor and moderna are going to have an even higher raw deduction transmission oughta be proven in israel. They again not not published data. There seemed to be showing reduced transmission rates. Basically what we're saying is in in addition to not getting the disease because you're protected by the vaccine also not passing the disease onto someone. Unwittingly that's how this all ends and it doesn't necessarily end with just preventing disease which take that back actually does a bit because if the vast majority of us apart from say young children are getting immunized. Then fraud for australia covid nineteen becomes the common cold and we can relax a bit. But if let's say only seventy percent of strings getting me in is thirty percent are vulnerable to severe covid disease and less. I mean we said this before and corner cast far less than one percent far fewer than one percent have been infected. So that's an awful lot of australians exposed to severe covid disease and we could have a terrible pandemic if add occurs. So you really want reject reduce transmission. And i imagine that if they can. I was going to talk about this the other day. But the kirby seminar that tended we talked about in terms of vaccine houston the other day and mcintyre spoke about the on the on the vaccines. What you want is a vaccine. That's much better than natural infection and what you have with pfizer and moderna and probably over banks are vaccines which are giving you a much better. Immunity believe it or not then. The natural infection astra clear the moment that is much better and if it's much better than natural infection and it means last longer be wider spectrum probably against variance and have much chance of reducing transmission to a greater extent. So if you get eighty percent of the community covered with pfizer novak's at least on current datta. Then you're marsh and they reduced transmission. You're much more likely to have a more protected population. And the people who don't get immunized are protected by the people who do which is largely what happens with measles at the moment so we don't have measles in australia. There are small percentage of people who are not covered against measles but the fact that most of us are immune to measles and if we get infected with it we don't pass it on means that we're protecting the people who are not that's what herald immunity is all about the hair protects the few. And that's what makes anti baxter's that one of these so angry about antifa xers is that they hitch a ride on the fact that everybody else gets immunized so transmission reduction is very important. The news seems to be getting better and better with astra that the longer between dozes the harley efficacy seems to reduce transmission. It may not be that bad and as i've said before if astros the one on offer that's one i'm going to take because it will reliably likely others very reliably turn covid. Nineteen into the common cold or even no symptoms at all or one of the questions that are getting a lot from our audience is who will be eligible to get these vaccines necessarily the people in the priority groups but people who aren't necessarily australia citizens or if i'm if i'm a permanent resident do i get it but if i'm going to visitor's visa do i get it and yesterday greg hunt. The federal health minister said that anyone in astrology with a visa including refugees and asylum seekers. We'll be getting the vaccine options in order to achieve the maximum level of coverage. Absolutely you can afford to sit on ideology with this. One and prisoners needed to prisoners. I risk transmission environment prisoners needed. To anytime you've got large numbers of people in close quarters. That's a really a recipe for it to spread what sits there behind that comment from. The minister is had immunity. Is that the more people you the fewer people you've got vulnerable. The more likely are to reduce transmission of this virus and the prevalence of the virus in the community as well as making it very unlikely that people are gonna turn up in hospital with this disease. They're going to get a mild disease or not at all so speaking of virus in the community. Both people in western australia and victoria watching really closely to see if the Corinthian escapes that. We've seen gonna turn into something more. But w i yesterday recorded another day of no new cases in the community that in full lockdown. it's not number four for them. And victoria's also looking pretty good so far so good and clearly something odd happened in the grand height and indeed the other hotel that where the spread between families and this this is all about to be sorted out by may well be that never really find out what went on. But it's almost certainly going to be spread through the air at a distance from people with a high viral load on the case of the family with. I think there were five people in the room. There was a lot of virus. They're easy to escape. And it's were turns out where a few people in the same floors this man in melbourne these timing cuts. At least chang said at the press conference yesterday in which case again exposed to the virus through the air no matter what. The testing of a ventilation showed it must be through. Air is hard to see how else it could have happened. So there's some other really big current events happening next week norman. And it's that you are finally taking a holiday off to two hundred and thirty two straight episodes of koranic. I am sadly it won't be too rottenness to know that's for the future. I just live in hope. The cook is a waiting for you. So yes normally. By the way. I must thank the anonymous person who didn't leave a name. Who sent me a pair of qualcomm. Saux costa seriously lovely corker saux which i will wear with pride when i land on in my shorts sandals long socks you british style on redness so thanks very much and this is not pleased. Do not send us any gifts. But i do have to this person. You're saying these socks. I'm trying to think of a portmanteau crooked and sucks and i'm like sauce. Walk ins walks. Yeah send us. Your suggestions cooks with some cooks with you crooks know you're on holidays seem replaceable for next week. Well we sort of thought that any scottish person might do norman so lined up you and mcgregor david. Tennant's gonna come in mary. Queen of scots. Maybe that horse from braveheart. That'll do the trick. That'd be good. They'll give her takes on jovis and i dunno mosk. Let's kisses no seriously got some really exciting experts lined up for next week. Just be talking so send in your questions as usual. Abc dot net slash caused. But we've got some questions to ask you before you leave. Norman quickfire friday. I am do breath. Ready to go coca socks off kate. Let's go what medical conditions will prevent old limit. Covid vaccination were medical conditions. You can't call. Pregnancy medical condition but pregnancy at the moment is an open question because the vaccine mostly not being tested in pregnant women. It's highly unlikely it's dangerous and different countries have different arrangements. We've yet to see what's going to happen here. So that's one thing. Young children is another again. Just to spe- sorted out as time goes on and as we get towards the end we will find out people who are immunocompromised. Do need to have this immunization. And it's quite likely that what they re immunization that they should have is in fact. The fis are one because it seems to give a much stronger deeper response and if your compromise you want to stimulate your immune system quite deeply so there's that people who've had an nf electic reaction need to be careful with the pfizer vaccine yet to be seen whether there's any reactions to the astro on it. So compound in the fis vaccine. That does it so at the moment. I don't know of any others. But if you're extremely frail and your doctor who the person's daughter would say look you've only got a very limited time to live than most people would say that you probably shouldn't have the vaccine because the stress on your immune system may be too much apart from that. It's not entirely clear. Who else would be contraindicated. What's the difference between the south african variant the u. k. varying in brazil variant of all the same thing or different. No the different. They have similar that some similar mutations in common but they also have very different mutations. The brazilian one less is known. This african has taken over in south africa. The vaccine trial showed. So it's more contagious. And the when we know is more contagious. The both uk and the south african one reduce the effectiveness of the vaccine. The uk variant be one one seven bound fair calling the uk. Varian is only a little bit less effective. But it's measurable. I think that was on the novak's trial and the south african variant is quite a bit less effective but still effective and certainly effective in turning covid nineteen into the common cold. So that's the story as we know at the moment it was very quick. Quick fire friday out of time now but thanks for listening. And i'll see you next week. And i'll see the week after five now sieben.
Victorians Facing Long Testing Queues 04/01/21
"From the newsroom. At news dot com. Today you get. I am lexicon rot. And this is the latest from the newsroom. It's monday the fourth of january. Nineteen testing sites across melvin. Close to within an hour of opening yesterday after being swamped by thousands of victorians requiring tests after returning from new south wales between authorities scrambling to contain the virus after it to tonight from new south wales with three new cases reported yesterday. All linked to blackrock. Stop acting premier. Just into allen said the delays at the state's one hundred and ninety testing clinics. In pot you too. Many healthcare work is still being on leave however she did thank many returning early. I do want to acknowledge the Hard-working health kissed off over the course of two thousand and twenty as we've seen over this holiday period. We've seen a number of them. Take some well and tom off Really wanna thank those staff who have returned early from the from the break from the whole i period to provide extra assistance with the testing sites across the state to some other virus knees now and it's riley's contract with a vaccine provide has been finalized in the national rollout east ahead of schedule. That's according to health minister greg hunt. If it successfully pases approval processes fifty one million doses of the nerve of vaccine will be made available in australia enough to back night the entire population. Mr hunt said. He was pleased with the pace of the process. So i thought with old axiom set to be distributed by tyrone meanwhile a group of anti mask. Protest is much through a popular shopping senate in sydney. Yesterday i have been criticized. For not social distancing sydney grapples with several clusters for demerge all the protests with sharp people holding signs claiming that face masks increased risk of infection as they took to westfield shopping senate in bondi junction singing to the beat of a man. Playing large drum. New restrictions can affect on sunday that required people in greater sydney to wear a mask and places like shopping centers and on public transport and on the spot. Fine of two hundred dollars will be enforced from today for anyone not complying. We'll take a break over roddy to some entertainment news. Now and these a celebrity. Get me out of he. Contestants have finally been revealed after weeks of clues from channel ten nine stars was sharing entering the cancer during last night's premiere however it seemed many had no idea who each other would which made things a little bit awkward anyway the list of celebrities. This year includes the only grant danya jack vision pulling any turney parent. Abby chatfield i f l player travis. Vodka and comedians ash williams. Just end mel boscell. Finishing sport news now on the gabba is at risk of losing the full test after the board of control for cricket in india express their reluctance to travel to brisbane. Now the test is set to take place in queens. I'm from january. Fifteen however indian cricket officials have reportedly voiced their displeasure about the state strict quarantine proposals both squads currently in melbourne and are expected to travel to sydney for the new year's tests today. And just remind. Do you want the chance to win. One thousand dollars h. Wake play the daily quiz at news dot com dot. Au forward slash quiz and that cash could be without safe from the news room. We'll have another update in your update from news dot com.
COVID-19's other death toll
"This is an ABC podcast. So we've been measuring this pandemic in two ways. The number of people killed by the virus and the damage to the economy. But does this impact only just beginning to get a sense of and that's what it's doing to Australia's mental health I'm Steven Smiley and managed level. Appear and today on the signal the close link between unemployment and the suicide right and what steps could be taken now to prevent those debts in the months and years to come. So you don't have to look very hard to see how badly the current situation is affecting people's mental health. Yeah I mean ask almost anyone. How doing this also this visibly renewed Docs streak in Internet Huma. Even docket unusual right which is saying something I think and you even have the Health Minister. Greg Hunt bringing it up at press conferences. We know during any economic crosses this a long history that this can have a demonstrated impact on mental health. And that's why we're getting ahead of the curve justice. We've done with health now on mental health in fact serious enough about it that they've appointed Australia's first deputy chief medical officer for mental health. Dr Ruth Wine and all of this is because there's an expectation that destroys mental health is about to get dramatically worse resulting in hundreds most suicides every year. A figure that we'll get to later in the APP right and it's more than just a hunch. Unfortunately it is based on experience. Australia is facing an unfolding national and International Economic Emergency News Wall Street shaken. The American people spaeth in our economy leaders of the twenty developing and industrialized economies agreed in Washington to cooperate to combat the global financial crisis. Clear that this is. A global problem requires a global solutions. Economists say fifteen European nations already in recession while the US appears to be on the Verge Award. Signs were everywhere. But now it's official. We are in a recession sworn has been driving the government's if to save precision. He joins US now now. Parliament has twitter. Good Morning. Good morning a lot of countries were affected ride through Europe brought through the Americas right through Asia. Sorry it was really which parts of the world weren't affected. That sneak has lem. He's a professor of psychology at the University of Melbourne. There are a lot of studies in the USA as she wouldn't be surprised given that that's really where it started with the global financial crisis there and lots of really good work which follows people through time and looks at changes in employment rights and debt levels and housing foreclosure levels and things like that starting at about two thousand seven right. So what did the studies from the? Us show is in terms of the exact correlation. Well what surprised you? The research doesn't always completely agree but generally what the American studies tend to. Shahr used over that period safe to now tonight to two thousand twelve. Roughly there was a quite substantial increasing suicide rates opinions. Different exactly what it might be. But one study for instance suggested they was five thousand excess deaths due to suicide over that period in the US In particular some studies over this period following ten thousand Americans over the age of fifty from two thousand eight onwards found a substantially increase right of depression more use of antidepressants by them. Increases of suicide rates. A couple of percents at least a prior rights again. The news is pretty much all bad and is Nick says. They were studies on that topic at the time. And one of the scariest ones came out of island. They attributed a fifty seven percent rise in suicide from two thousand eight to two thousand twelve to the recession and to the resulting austerity measures. That followed it now. That might be a bit of coal. But there was a very large increase in suicide. An audit over that time and Surely the economic downturn had lodged part to play in them and on some level. It's very obvious why losing your job could be a depression TRIG I. It's hard to go through but it's more specific than that polly. It just know the bad news and people respond to stress distress usually. That's just how we respond to to dance but I think hopelessness has a particular relationship to suicide over in about depression and the kiss. If people think that there is a bleak. Oh no clear future ahead of them. They're more inclined to do something in the way of silt. Tom So I think the hopelessness is one element of it. But that's only really one element. I think this other issues as well. People tend to see countless healthcare. You get more problematic alcohol use and drug use and of course when you're abusing substances. You're more likely to make rash impulsive decisions including the decision to hung herself and that kind of comes about you. Know the Substance Abuse Patent because people fundamentally that they have more time on their hands right. You look it's probably boredom and just hey Tommy Hanson. It's partly just an attempt to solve a problem. Chemically and then reduce the stress insert damn down that level of arousal in your central nervous system. Does that quite successfully? So it's partly time wants hands. It's probably a response to to stress. But it also especially if you're at a place where there's lots of firearms Can lead people do foolish things while they're onto under the influence? I wonder about the identity thing as well. Because you know if you meet someone in modern developed capitalist nation one of the first questions you get asked what do you do for a living right? It seems to have become socialized so that our work is really central part of our identity absolutely and I think this is really very important at current situation. People is very much focused on the pandemic itself and the stress of that in the isolation results from that. But I think this Good reason to suspect that the unemployment outcomes maybe more damaging to people And it's not simply an economic loss. It's the loss of identity and I'd say that's probably not true. Only capitalist societies but pretty much in an all sides people in value what they do and they often feel rather worthlessness if had lost lost us of Psychological Lynn. When they're no longer in gainful employment okay so dots. What we're in for right so we wanted to know exactly how bad things might become. I think we'd all be aware these trying to Konami like the titanic just at the Oscars and we're talking. This is professor a in Hickey. He's the CO director of the brain and Mind Center at University of Sydney. And he's been one of the most prominent voices on mental health policy in Australia for more than a decade. We thought we had a good economy and suddenly unemployment rates have gone from five point two percent ten percent so we have seen a massive down tune in the economy but most importantly from a mental health point of view and massive upswing in unemployment and youth unemployment in particular the rights of youth unemployment typically in most regions of Australia about twice although in some regions up to three times higher than General Adult Unemployment. That unemployment my will rise to fifteen percent for adults and in that context he might get thirty to forty five percent for youth unemployment. Okay let's work with For argument's sake the ten percent that kind of best case scenario that you have just mentioned so you've got some very specific modeling about what we could expect in that instance. What what does it tell us in terms of the impact on on the mental health case? Load so the best case we have model will result in approximately twenty five percent increase in suicide rates. Now there are about three thousand deaths per year by suicide At seven hundred and fifty more deaths could year not just for this year of the subsequent five years. That's the best case scenario. That's an extraordinarily high number and yet you know as you said ease at the more optimistic range of the muddling. What is that modeling based on? We would doing the smoldering Australia already. In several areas in the northern rivers of New South Wales Western suburbs. Cd With New South. Wales the hundred England region around. Utah's on the New South Wales Central Coast. We'd already been in four other regions in Australia working on how these models actually work in the tryin environment and I'm guessing the inputs for that modeling taken from an economic crisis that didn't have all the other facets of a pandemic right things like the loss of social interaction is a comfort and less in general to look forward to so you have to wonder if those estimates that the model modeling produces might in fact be conservative on. Don't think there's any doubt that the model is actually conservative. For variety of reasons one is in fact the covered non team situations frozen addition when you levels sized dislocation which have not been previously modeled and the communities in which we working out this previously. I was socially functional communities in which people were school and sharing and connecting and accessing health in the normal wives. Let's not forget in the post code world. That's not happening. That has all been entirely up in the current situation of that seven hundred fifty extra deaths that are projected in the best case scenario. Here all those. Going to be unevenly distributed whether that's demographically or geographically wealthy people will stick kids all the people skills and assets people without the choices sudden unemployment. You've got other resources financially. And socially Beta access to healthcare debate on so recessions. Kill the vulnerable. That killed a marginal. They affect young in this situation. Is You've been in casual employment without skills in China without assets more socially awesome Those who are in the greatest danger case if wave running with the titanic medal. I guess the next logical question is whether we have enough lifeboats right and the answer according to in he is narrow and to torture the metaphor. The lifeboats we do have our bit Lakey. What happens to you Australia at the moment if you For example depressed maybe having some suicidal idealization. Maybe you haven't made an attempt but you need help and you and you go to Saket. What is the process for you at this point? Most people if they go through the health system if they're not so unreal J. They'll struggle to find appropriate treatment from jt to have psychologists have to pay extra for perhaps to see his conscious often disorganized dislocated left available outside of our cities and file viable to those who cannot afford to seek that kid to isis people who simply turn up an emergency departments after. They've attempted suicide off. Still Tom and sadly many of those people that presented to care we'll not receive these chaos. They leave the emergency department. Current data suggests that only one in one in six people receives effective care for depressive. Episode was the strongest. I said it was suicidal behavior. Could you imagine that one is will briskets? All one is six middle aged men with a heart attack received effective k. It's unbelievable compared with other areas but it is sadly the reality. Okay so if you ask you not. Only is the existing system difficult to navigate expensive patients and just generally not fit the purpose. It's also about to be overwhelmed right but it's not a hopeless situation. He has a very specific idea. For what political leaders can do next assigned from trying to rescue the economy? You've got a reorganize quickly Minister Lebed very quickly to organize national coordination. All of our classic style Hospitals Private Hospitals Product X. So that the beds Dossey used ventilators. Were they the national capacity not using -ployed by do who's way who's self-employed who which for state or Caudal the national capacity. That's exactly what we need to do in mental health. I just WANNA break that. Write down what you're talking about. Is the idea that the government would essentially pay for this provision of services that are currently available in the private system and would pay so that they would be available for free to people of nate s`amuse to home giving the marvelous example can happen on strikes. The Cross is. He's high for the first time he has nationally arranged for every state and territory to buy the capacity in the private sector. So nobody misses out. So what's required? Here's exactly the same to use the sign mechanisms. So that does it must nate. Did Not have to pay. That's the most important thing the government can do. It's using the existing resources different rather than trying to put a lot of money into things that would not make a difference and let's be clear he doesn't you away. In his campaigns new help lines one create more lost bites. Changing the structure is more important than trying dollars at small initiatives that will make no difference. So is there the political will from what you can say to make the changes necessary to save those lives the current situation? If anyone hasn't gift is incredibly serious and we now have a very unusual political instrument the national cabinet which could do these things and has done rimmer voluble now. This is a hard one. It's structural is long term but it will save blogs right because you mentioned cabinet and at ease very very hard to get agreement between the states and the federal government on questions like this is this perhaps a rare opportunity then out on the opportunity. And I've gotTa say if not now they win if this is not done now never be wrong. And it's a very sad thing. Decided for those like myself restrict their lost China China's deceased not a big enough stimulus to get it right. What he's from US Today. If you are struggling at the moment please do coal lifeline. The number is thirteen. Eleven fourteen and we'll be back tomorrow. 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How Noise Cancelling Headphones Work AIR039
"Who? This is a if. The strain frequent flyer podcast. Renew you the latest news tips and tricks for stranded travelers. Get Welcome to episode, thirty nine of a fifth on. It is Saturday, the twenty seventh of June Two Thousand Twenty and I'm your host Matt Graham. In today's episode. My guest is Hussein, safe Zadeh in space engineer. He's also an activist trillion frequent flyer member. While working at Boeing some years ago, now Hussein designed a system that manages the way that an an craft wing moves while the plane is flying through turbulence. Now believe it or not, the exact same principle is now used in noise cancelling headphones, which are must have nowadays for any serious frequent flyer in this interview Hussein explains exactly how that noise cancelling headphones, technology works, and in a completely unrelated topic. You think they're a good credit card deals here. Stralia wait till you see what's possible in America. Later. In the episode, all such had to say about the benefits of US credit cards, and how trillions might be able to get one. That's coming up, but first here's what's making news. In the world of Airlines, lines and frequent flyer points this fortnight, and of course they have been two big pieces of news over the last few days. The I was last Thursday's announcement that Qantas will permanently cut a staggering six thousand jobs and extend the stand-downs a further fifteen thousand staff, particularly those involved in international flying. In outlining the aliens three year covered Recovery Plan Qantas CEO Alan. Joyce said that he doesn't expect International. Flying resume for at least a year other than perhaps New Zealand Pacific. Health Minister. Greg Hunt made a similar comment earlier this week. That international travel unlikely to return until there's a safe vaccine. Quantities already removed all international flying from its schedule. Except for a few limited Trans Tasman flights until late Taiba, although the cancellations will likely be extended further at some point. As such quotas has now made a final decision that it will retire all of its remaining Boeing. Seven four sevens, marking the end of an era for the flying kangaroo at this point is now only one seven, four, seven left in Australia and it's Judah. Fly from Sydney to Los Angeles and onto Victorville for scrapping next Tuesday the thirtieth of June Corners will say put its entire Airbus a three eighty fleet into deep storage. Writing down the evaluate significantly. The planes could remain storage for up to three years, and some may never returned to commercial service for Qantas. Making his West for Qantas as virtually no second-hand market eight through eighty S. it is too big inexpensive for most airlines in the current climate. Overall. Qantas hopes to reduce costs by fifteen billion dollars. During the next three days of reduced flying activity, it's also targeting one billion dollars in ongoing annual cost savings from two thousand and twenty three. Quotas also announced that it plans to raise one point nine billion dollars in new equity to accelerate the aliens recovery. And a three twenty, one and Boeing. Seven eight seven nine deliveries have been deferred. Some least aicraft may also be returned to less as earlier than planned as they. Currently periods expire over overall about one hundred quotas planes. Will be grounded for at least of Sable Future. But Ellen? Joyce was surprisingly optimistic about the long term future of Project Sunrise quizzes planned to fly nonstop from Sydney to London and New York, which was indefinitely placed on hold last month. The other big news was yesterday announcement that Bain capital, a US private investment firm based in Boston which has very deep pockets is set to become the new owner of Virgin Australia. Virgin administrators have now entered into a sale agreement with Bain capital, which plans to turn virgin straight into a hybrid airline, the targets both corporate and leisure travelers. But there is still no guarantees that the sale will go through. The proposal will need to be voted on in a meeting of credits. Some of which stands elise will most of their investments in mid August. And counter-bid by major bondholders does remain a possibility. Bain capital does say that it will honor overages trae flight credits and velocity, frequent flyer points, which is definitely good news as well as investing to integrate velocity more closely with Virgin Australia also good news, but the tiger a brand is unlikely to reten. Meanwhile the we'll see has forced Qantas to contact customers issued with flight credits to inform them of their entitlements to refunds. The triple alleges that Qantas failed to adequately inform customers of their right to a refunding communications between the seventeenth March and the thirty first of May. Qantas also pressured some customers into canceling their bookings for credit themselves so that they wouldn't have to be issuing a refund. When Qantas led to cancel their flights it a piece that if you requested a flight credit for a Qantas flight that later went onto be cancelled. You can contact Qantas t request a refund instead. If. You didn't request a flight credit by automatically issued with one win. Quotas cancelled your flight. You can also call quantity request refund, and that's always been the case, but thanks to the will intervention. It seems that you can also now convert your flat credit into a refund if you were due to travel between the seventeenth of March and the thirtieth of May, regardless of whether your flight ended up operating. According to the conditions of carriage, passages are entitled to a refund for flights canceled due to events beyond the airline's control, if alternative flights often and not acceptable to the customer. Meanwhile. Qantas has ended the validity of flight. Credits issued you to covid nineteen by a year. They are valid for travel until the thirty first of December, two thousand and twenty two. Philosophy Frequent Flyer will finally refund virgin. Australia would say bookings that have been canceled for travel booked up until the thirtieth of September this year. This had already been velocities policy prior to Virginis Tralee. Entry Administration on the twenty first of April, and in fact, even for about another four weeks after that. But in mid-may, velocity retrospectively changed its policy to say that it would no longer issue refunds for the points in taxes paid on cancer Virginis trailer reward bookings that were made prior to the twenty first of April. Even if there is flights were cancelled by the airline. At the time we questioned how this could possibly be legal. Especially, since velocity frequent flyer is not an administration. Canceled cancelation fees will be waived if you contact velocity frequent flyer to request a refund before Travel Dade all by the thirtieth of September this. And Velocity members that have already requested a refund for effective bookings being contacted by all. Travel Agents in New South Wales, including online travel agents will be required to disclose if they receive a commission referral fee or any other financial incentive from their supplies from July one. The new rule is part of increased disclosure obligations that will apply to all intermediaries operating in the state of new. South Wales which also include things like real estate agents and comparison while websites, but do also apply to travel agents. The new state based laws also require businesses to disclosed hymns of or conditions in contracts that could substantially disadvantage the customer travel agents generally receive a commission for Selling International Flights, cruises holiday, packages and travel insurance, and especially trifle insurance way commissions of around forty percents, not uncommon. And agents may also be rewarded with other incentives from this apply such as airlines such as bonus payments freebies for meeting certain sales targets, and in some cases, these incentives could influence the agents recommendations to clients. Travel. Agents will now be required to take reasonable steps to ensure. Customers are aware that they have a financial arrangement with the supplier. But agents do not have to disclose type of incentive, nor the amount of any commission being paid. And while sadly, this went come as a surprise to most people we do now officially know that international passages coming in and out of Australia during the month of this year were down by a staggering ninety eight percent. There was also a seven point two percent reduction in domestic airline passengers traveling within Australia in April two thousand and twenty Judah, the lockdowns and border clashes. According to data from the Bureau of infrastructure, transport and regional developments, just sixteen, thousand, two hundred and eleven paypal arrived Australia on international flights in April, Two thousand and twenty down from one point seven million in April of two, thousand nineteen, and of course holiday, sixteen thousand people would have had to go into hotel quarantine. Around three times as many people left Australia than the number of arriving passengers, and almost half of them flew with railways. Now this is just mind blowing cut. Railways normally has a market share in his trailer three percent in April. It's market. Share was forty four point five percent. Some of the passenger numbers are all sages staggering for example China. Airlines flew thirty three flights from a Taiwan Australia during April, and in total among all of those flights, it flew just one hundred forty six passengers. That's an average of one point, four percent of seats being filled, and that's not even the worst of it. Ed. Colleen carry just eight passages from new me to Australia during April on seven flights, although it at least on the return flights back to New Caledonia, did fly back three hundred and ten people. But, perhaps the most dialogue is belong to Royal Brunei. Which continued operating twice weekly Boeing seven eight seven flights direct between Melbourne and Brunei across the total of nine return flights were Brunei flu. Only six passes to Australia down from four thousand, eight, hundred twenty three passengers in the same month, Lawsti. For he four passengers flew from Australia back to Brunei with that. At least most of these airlines would of also carried some Kagera, so that would offset some of these numbers a little bit, but just while some of these numbers simply dia. I've written a doubt coup with lots more interesting stats and figures from April Cold Australian International Flights Down Ninety eight percent in April, two thousand and twenty, and you can find this link in the episode nights along with other Australian frequent flags articles covering the topic subject spoken about. Well that's the news for this night. For more regular updates and deals head to two Australian frequent flyer, Cymru subscribe to the example. Follow us on facebook. Well, if you often travel along whole Mike, many frequent flyers, you probably have used noise cancelling headphones. They can be an absolute godsend especially on long flights. If you've got screaming, children noyer just trying to get to. Get some sleep and there's a lot of background noise on the plane. That have you ever wondered how noise cancelling headphones cancel noise. Go here to tell me all about that is Hossein Safe. Is that a WHO is an Australian frequent flambeau with the handle Hussein a year, and he has a PhD in aerospace engineering and used to work for Boeing. Welcome to the put Costa, saying thanks. Matt thanks for having me. So you worked at Boeing designing composite materials and you'll say worked on the team that developed the tail of the Boeing triple seven, which in itself is quite interesting, told me would have been off of course. That, that is going back for quite a few years now but bill. During my master's degree in aerospace, engineering down in Melbourne at Boeing Factory We start developing composite materials. At the time. It was a very neil technology saw people didn't know how it would react over a long period of us, so we did a lot of. RND, research and development on how composite materials behave when they are exposed to various vibrations and fatigue and moisture, and those sort of things so hard got involved with competent materials many many years ago, as part of that research via started looking into developed development of cracks within composite materials as they are being us Half Fatigue set sin. now for people who might not be familiar with fatigue as a phenomenon is that if you get a piece of metal and your bended back and forth a few times, it's a source cracking, and then it's it's Eventually. The snapper eventually snaps off It happens with all different materials and composite materials exception. Now in the case of aircrafts, one of the main causes of having big maintenance is looking for those small microscopic cracks within the main structure of the aircraft, and that is part of the maintenance, right. Then you want to use a new material as part of the certification, you have to go through all of these process to make sure to satisfy all sides for older regulatory bodies that your thought about this and you now when death cracks might appear, and you actually cater for those as part of your maintenance regiment. Now. We are looking into competent materials and and fatigue, and as part of that we are looking into. Harvey can reduce vibration within a structure because as Probably all of their listeners have not lives as you fly being school up down as you go through turbulence, right that puts a little pressure on the wink now menu start. He was incompetent materials. We wanted to see how it would behave and in order to reduce onset of fatigue, Ba- thought, what is the best way to reduce the vibration in the first place right so I started doing some research into sensing vibration within aircraft wings. And then trying to do something about that, so what I did was to as you develop competent materials, be embedding some sensors within this structure to sense how vibration throughout the being is, is propagating, and then also embiid some actuators to try to compensate and canceled the vibration so basically the wing the wing becomes virtually stiffer. Because, your prayer preventing vibrations within the ring that works very well in reducing fatigue on composite materials. But because of being the has become virtually more stiff, the right quality of their kaffirs caused being going up and down in turbulence is like a cushion is like this suspension in a car right might look a little bit confronting if looking out the window during tablings, and you see the wing going up and down, but that is that that is actually smoothing out the right. Wing, designed city that right that's. It's designed to do that, but if they're being doesn't do that, then derived becomes very choppy. Ride, it is like a Carter doesn't have suspensions right so. I started doing some research and trying to find out where the balance is to try to reduce vibrations as well as maintaining royd quality. Now I developed some some techniques in sensing the vibration, and then in real time sense of commands to the wing to try to reduce vibration, but not quite eliminated. That was very successful, and that technology was then picked up by manufacturers of noise cancelling. Exactly right exactly right I should have patented. but anyway so The same technology is applicable in noise, canceling think of waves in a surface off a lake right If you throwing a pebble, there are waves, Creo, there is wave created and sort of propagates away from where you're. Drop the pebble right now. Imagine that you throwing a pebble a bit further May. The two waves meet and they start interacting. Because of the two pebbles at you sent right. Now imagine that you serve you throwing the second pebble. On time it's so perfectly. That the wave of the second pebble, coming and the peak and the troughs of the second wave. Interact with the peaks and troughs of the fierce wave, and they can each other out that would be a perfect timing if you could possibly throw the second people like that, yeah, I, Of course in reality is a truly unlikely for that to happen. Now the way that we hear noise is exactly the same phenomenon is that there are ways in the air and then we kind of hear those waves on the surface on the air right. Now, imagine that the concept is exactly the same as those vibration counseling with an wing in in that sense of abrasion you in real time you send a signal back to try to attract and canceled the vibration in a wing. You do the same thing. With before noise in that noise comes as wave. It hits your Airtran and you hear. Not, if somehow you could send a signal. A wave and annoys. That is exactly the same but opposite direction, so the peaks and troughs troughs are reversed. As they hit your aerodrome, they candidate other out so basically. You don't hear anything so we in a noise canceling head headline. How exactly does they were does that? We're excited. Is there like a microphone on the outside and finds that detects the noise coming in, and then the that's is a give. You've got it. You've got in that every more noise. Canceling headphone needs to have a microphone outside pointing outwards and as noise coming towards your eardrums. The microphone picks it up. Then the electronics needs to go and amplify that microphone noise. Reverse it and time it's and send it through a speaker to your towards your eardrums, but time it perfect you saw. As it hits your eardrums, it needs to be cancelled and you need to time that because if you don't Timah. They might actually amplify each other right because if you send a imagine going back to the service of a lake if you join drop into pebbles. And happens that the peaks and troughs off the two waves are in sync. Then you get double the amplitude height of the waves. Right you don't want that? You want the order you want them to cancel each other. Not Amplify each other, so it's very important for electronics to time the noise that is coming to your ear as well as the want, it generates so that they cancel each other out exactly as they hit your eardrum right so I guess if you're wearing noise cancelling headphones and attend on the microphones. Listening toys going on externally. What happens if you put your finger over the microphone? Something is blocking it it. It's muffles it, so the microphone can Kenniston here's some of the noise muffled it so the noise it generates, and since you're you're you're eardrums is not quite as well as it could have been. So, it is always prudent to make sure that the the microphone on the outside of Wisconsin. He Hits Villa's are not blocked. The new headphones that are coming out since last year the tendency is to have more than one one microphone pointing outwards, and the idea is that if you have different level of noise coming from defend directions as it might happen, for example, you might sitting at the front of the brain, which most of your listeners hopefully? At some point win, the lockdown finishes. Yes, there are sitting at the front of the plane and noises different than his profile is different than if someone is sitting back of the play or living, and so really good pair of noise, cancelling headphones would be able to detect which direction. Fun Gosh Right and left right era or different. Because if you're sitting on the left hand, side the right hand side, you're closer to one in in the oven and the idea is that then each of the corresponding microphones, pointing towards engine peaks up a more volume up your high level of noise. Come from engine so they can compensate for that. Really top of the line noise cancelling headphones. They have more than one is speaker inside the as well so you can have a surround sound inside the headphone, and then they can cancel the headphone that the noise coming from. Let's say at the back on your left hand side so they can canceled appropriately, so you can still hear some conversation that someone is having. You know having with you. But all background noise or cancel Oh, wow, so is that the difference between say a one hundred dollars and a six hundred dollar pair of noise cancelling headphones? That's right that different at the APP of course, the quality of actual sound that they generate the Damore fidelity. The headphone has the better quality of the microphone, and the Electron Ix, the longer the better life sort of things all play into that. But the main difference between top of the line, latest bulls or Sony, headphone versus the model before the last one is the number of microphones and solve the electrons they've got. Additional because it is such a complex, mathematical calculations and everything that you need to do in real time to try to cancel the noise. They usually optimize electronics for a certain level of noise set kind noise. Majority of noise cancelling headphones are optimized for aircraft engine noise. Saw, they are not as good. In cancelling different optional like occurring babysitting next short. Except for. One off the difference between the very latest incarnation of Wisconsin and headphones done the one from last year. Is that they come in with more number of profiles, they can cater to cancel the noise off the latest. Sony and bose can switch between those dynamically. They can detect if for example your. You're riding in a car or you're flying in a plane. They detect and San that the noise is a car engine noise on an aircraft noise and they switched. Switched to appropriate profile, so they can can sell the right type of noise. That's incredible, and it's all done in a very small space for electronics, and you have to put it all the battering and everything else in that as well, and that's why they are hundreds of dollars. So what's the difference? There's two main types of noise cancelling e phones there's. The. Everyone's kind of look like what's the difference between those? Well, it's it's actually very interesting both are pretty good the latest versions but They are good in different specs are the ones that are over the year. They actually create A. Passive Noise Cancelling or passive muffling effect, so the ones over your they reduced annoys noise automatically anyway, because there's the physical barriers physical. Definitely, like how you must whip, except right, so then muffled annoys anyway, even if off, they muffled annoys better than any other type of headphones, so they do a better job in doing that, but going back to what I was explaining about the technology of making sure that the waves or the noise needs to be cancelled in castle each other as they hit your eardrums. So the close of the speaker is your eardrums Damore. Perfectly can time it right if you have a speaker. That is two meters away from you. Then the electronics need to consider the time. The noise takes to travel from the speaker to. You're talking here about milliseconds realistic but. It makes a huge difference, because if you for example, imagine you have a noise canceling speaker, two meters away from your right, and it happens that it's cancel everything perfectly right. If you move half a meter away from the perfect pots, the waves might interact innovate the amplify each other. So it might defeat the pair for so in if they're speaking away from further away from you is the more susceptible it becomes to where you're located the timing between their speaker and your eardrum the time it takes a wave to get from this do. So the clause you get to speak at your eardrum, the better you can time it okay, so both I guess have their pros and cons. Do you think there's one particular type which is better for people sitting on an airplane? Each one of those is good in. Doing the electric bit or the physical right so overall they both are pretty good. It depends on what type of novel talking about how pedantic your about the quality of their oughta music that you listen to show because they're over the year ones, there is more space even though it's still limited but more space to try to put in better speakers under sort of things in there and. And more space for batteries on everything else but technology is improving on daily basis, so I'm sure even the in in era speakers in a year from now we're GONNA off. Do the best of over ear headphones quality of and I guess I guess it all comes down to what he's more comfortable for you to wear on the plane. Right? Exactly some some people get. Really annoyed when they have been ear in ear. speaker phones by then for example in my case I found it much more difficult to sleep if you've got over the year headphones, that's one of the things I've noticed as well especially. If you're economy hopefully not too often, but it does happen. I tend to sleep on my side and it's kind of the every. Headphones comfortable exactly so it depends on what works for you, but they they both are amazing technologies. Yeah, well, that's really interesting, and who would have thought that on the technology that was initially created to smooth out the fluctuation of an aircraft wing, moving in the would then be used to create the wonderful technology of noise canceling headphones. Absolutely, thanks saying I'm going to take a quick break and the Saints GonNa come back took something completely different in just a moment. Did. You know that you can get more from your Australian frequent flyer membership by upgrading to silver or gold membership. For just fifty dollars a year silver members see no advertisements on the vast majority of community forum pages, and for only seventy five dollars a year in addition go Bemba's can receive discounted travel goods and services valued at over four hundred dollars a year including discounts on Qantas. Club Nord VPN Fly and more. Most importantly by upgrading yours trailing frigging fly membership that you'll be supporting the website and this podcast for more information visit Australian frequent flyer dot com. Forward slash upgrade. I'm joined once again by Hossein Safe Saturday. One of the things that I'm very often asked about is use credit cards now I know a lot of Australians use credit cards to in frequent flyer points, and there are some regular a very good sign up bonuses here in Australia where you can. Hundreds of thousands, even frequent flyer points signing up for a credit card, but these trillion credit card market especially since the Reserve Bank made some changes. A fees to interchange fees has not been anywhere near as good from a frequent flyers perspective as the US credit card market. Here in Australia many credit cards will have a maximum number of points. He can engineering a month or billing cycle, or they'll have points capping every in the US, though is the complete opposite they often have promotions to encourage you to spend more. You'll cottage month, and you've also got so many more options in terms of airline transfer upon is that you can transfer your credit card rewards points to. A San you have the chase. Sapphire preferred God first of all. What does that cod actually? What can you do with that car chase Sapphire preferred car is a normal visa card, so he can spend. You can use it anywhere if he's according to accepted for the past year or so, this has been my Go-to card because as much more. Acceptable em in Australia. Before another had a number of AMEX cards are still hold a makes Hilton car in the US because that's a free live card. And just by having get it gives you a Hilton Gold membership, tea or something they used to have that an Australian and it was discontinued, but of course the US still hasn't. Of course. so I I still have that. Also had a makes Charge cards and also the US. They have a lot more perks than the one in Australia. and my cheaper as well so anyway back to this chase car is warned that I am a used almost every day. You're another Tom back in Australia One of the advantages of the ones in the cars in the US exact as you said, is that the point or not capped? especially if you use visa or mastercard, there is no extra car surcharges Australia. And the advantage is that you can transfer the points to any number of airlines. As I'm sure a lot of your listeners are there In, Australia Qantas specifically charges a huge fuel surcharges. Usually. The points is not as valuable as the ones in the US absolutely and I know in Australia as he say about one in three people in quotas, points on the credit cards either have for example American Express, membership or woods, which gives you a few more options. You can transfer velocities, Singaporean Airlines Asia Miles Emerson. A few others diners. Club has a few and there's the press. The city prestige has a fair number of transplant is. Is, but they thereof virtually Nice Skyteam partners, and there's still a lot of airlines which have really inaccessible in Australia in terms of points with credit construct. So what airlines can you transfer your chase? Ultimate rewards points to there are a number of airlines are good airlines. You can transfer the chase points to the car. That are carly us You can transfer to airlines like British Airways. You can transfer to Air France. You can transfer to. Amorth under dosa things. There is a list of go through in a in a second, but the point is that you can transfer beach ever since that. You are to use your about to use on some of doors. Don't really have any fuel surcharges, so that makes a huge huge difference For example I can fly from Australia to the US using Qantas points, and I need to spend hundreds close to a thousand dollar in if I fly business class first class to the US in general surcharges. Or I can use American Airlines of points fly on the same aircrafts. But only spend like you know thirty bucks or something like that in in actual taxes. Yeah, that's a really good point. Because American Airlines advantage not only charges few miles to redeem for Qantas business and first class flights, but no carry a challenges at all at all. Just the just to give genuine governments in April taxes Janet one of the things that really gets me. Then people talk about extra pay or co pay but they lump fuel surcharges, and any carrying poles charges the. Actual, genuine taxes always sort of tendency for me is to try to get in and correct them say none of these are separate charges is one of these actual. Gordon charges the auto on his charges. They shouldn't there I think the Qantas website calls them transportation charges as the category. These carriage touches it just. Means Nothing. Nothing it boils my blood in that like imagine for example go, and you go to machias and get a sandwich, and as you're about to pay for it. They said up by the way you pay for electricity. I'm going to charge twenty cents electricity. It's absolutely ridiculous, and that is exactly what searchers are as well. But Anyway you can transfers the chase points to a number of airlines, and some of those airlines don't have carrier carrier charges or fuel surcharges. Therefore, the points become much more valuable, because not all points created equal absolutely, and if we have a look at the chase, optima woods partners, and this is just one example, there are many credit card rewards programs in the US which each have similar sort of setups like this. The US AMEX program is the. City? There's also thank you putting capital one so many like we've got British Airways Executive Club is a transfer partner. We will say goat ailing We got over in star Alliance. A Singapore Airlines is there and united, and there's also if France Kayla in Skyteam. So you've got all three of the alliances and we've got southwest. Rapid Rewards Go Vision Atlantic Flying Club, which is a name spothero Australia as let's say jetblue. Iberia One would again emerets an evil say, three hotel programs. But the beauty of chase is that the points are extremely flexible in that you can open normal chase no fee credit card and those points would be transferable to another set of airlines. American Airlines and Other Airlines are, but if you have multiple chase accounts, you can move your reward points between those accounts, so for example if you want to transfer some chase points to an airline that is not part of chase far, but you have another credit cards with chase. You can transfer these into a your card and then transferred to their account to the airline that you're interested while so much more valuable points in terms of points the inning on the Kahad. And this is one of the number one. This is why it's probably about number one question I. Get from people interested in credit cards. How can I? Are you a US critic? Sixty Four sixty nine million saved. US citizen to open a credit card in the United States well we have technically technicalities and technicalities in the US in order to get a social security number. You need to be either a prime arisen or sits. and then you apply to internal area services you apply, and you get a social security number. It is very similar to Australian tax phone number y'all. Security number to be able to get a credit card. Well. That helps a lot in in in the US like in Australia of the user driver license as the main source of ideas anywhere you go, they ask for your driver's license. If you don't have it, then it's raises some questions like how come you don't have a driver's license, right? It's the same thing in the US with social security number. If you don't have it, you still might get to do what you want to do, but it raises some questions. How come you don't have a social security number? Now the way around that is that if you are in the US bats, somehow you need to lodge a tax return for whatever isn't if you had an income of more than a dollar, a year or whatever in a work visa for example. You can apply for something analogous to to social security number but you can use that for on intern on purpose is not ssn, but it is the same as a citizen individual tax payer identification number. Is it exactly exactly so every time they ask you for a you can say more rt number and then use that now. In order to get credit card. They need to check your credit history in order to see whether you're eligible not. And in order to do that. They need your SSN number to look up your credit history. That's why they ask for it. Now in order to get that as I mentioned you either need to be citizens or permanent residents or have lodged a tax return at some stage in your life, but once you've got that. You have the number for life like you know I'm tax number in Australia. You've every person has one entities for life. It's the same thing okay, so I guess if you're in Australia, it's it's impossible to get a US credit card. I guess is sort of it, but. If your, if your physically in the US, and maybe Oh. You're working narrow. Have a right to work in the US. Then then it could be possible and end once you have the social security number haven't for life that that's correct like in in my case was there for extended period of time for work, but that is like ten twenty years ago. And as part of the, I wanted to get a phone and when I brought it up to to the company, they asked me for my social social security number tool put me on a plan like one or two year plan or something exactly the same as if you. Would've owner of OPTUS mobile phone. They check your credit history before they put you on a plan. Yeah, So they wanted to check my social security number on. Didn't how one so I had all sorts of problem problems getting a Sim call in the US at the time so I ended up getting a social security number on the way it worked. was that a large deform and everything online? And I did. Write everything as it was, so it was fully above four to this top of resolve God. This is the case right so they gave me an appointment in a couple of weeks from the time is legit application, and then the asked to bring some documentation, which was my password and everything else and also took a utility bill. I happened to be renting a place, so I had my utility gas electricity. All sorts of things, so I took a couple of bills with me as well. And they issued me social security number. It has been a blessing since then because now have history there and I can I can get American credit cards. Yeah, and so you're. Are you using this American credit card now to pay for things in Australia as regular payment comp well, it has been very interesting with Kobe and everything else. even in Australia they have banks has started providing some extra incentives like I understand that owner can express has extended some expand bonus, categories or something he's. They're offering bonus points. I think into July or some. Charge hold is I believe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I. Don't use a lot of ozzy critic. in the US is same thing. A lot of credit cards that are targeted for frequent flyers. They have introduced some bonus categories for expenses on the ground like grocery or restaurants, or take away or whatever the case might be. In the case of chase, they had restaurants already as a bonus category, so you will get two points per dollar expenses on on restaurants. Now they have introduced because of Kobe. They have introduced bonus category for Grocery shopping. And all of those bonus categories are applicable in Australia as well, so go to a restaurant in Australia or go to cold bullies, or whatever and I use the chase card I'm I get all of those bonus category points as well which helps a lot. Because typically you get one point chase points per US dollar soberly exchanger on everything else. It would be like you know. One point four one. Cents Per per dollar Aussie Dollar but if you've get a yet, a double or triple bonus category, then it will bring. The cost down less than one cents per dollar, which is a very good very good value for the points, considering that the points on more valuable to begin with absolutely and so I guess they need a critic hobbling US Stolas, which he would have to pay off in us. It's just a normal. You get your the bill month or not build their statement every month, and then you need to pay that now. Higher pay that different people might have different different ways to pay that you can probably the most expensive one, or if you want to risk, it is just to. Have, an international money exchange. things like aches. Dot Com or whatever number of. Exchangers online use those. Of course. There are some fees associated with that. some people depending on how many? Home match transaction you have per month. You might get some good deals. for online exchanges If you happen to have global banking system with the city or does are things you can transfer money. Beat me and your accounts in different currency denomination, so you can use that to pay those those cars off every month so. Different people whatever they have at their disposal, use them. Yeah, and there are. There are some stallion banks that offer sort of global multi-currency accounts. Suddenly Transfer Wise has one city bank as he say. You can lead a bank account with US dollars and just pay it off. With minimal or no fees exactly? If, if you can get a US credit card, you do have physically in the US to apply. Oil have a social security number, but. If you if you are able to get one, we get some better deals here in his trailer. Definitely definite and one of the things I can recommend to you to listen if the next on during in the US physically walk into a bank and ask to open in normal. Saving a transaction. Towns just a bank account. And it might be that later on in the subsequent visits or something the the bank might feel comfortable extending credit to them. So you have a history with you have a history with the bank, so they might I. Don't know about the might extend credit history so so credit, so you might open a credit card the bank. Guys say for those who've lost about US critic Hans I heard that was hopeful. Thanks so much the saints coming back. You Welcome. Well. I hope you found those interviews interesting before we wrap up today's episode, I got a question following the last episode from an eighth member code open seat now in the last episode I said that as club was my favorite frequent flyer program for aiding status and open sea would like to know more about why that is now before I go on, I should point out that I actually dedicated an episode to the club frequent. Flyer Program Lost Year in episode. Eleven of this podcast I spoke to tennis empire John Blom. WHO HAS LIFETIME STAR? Alliance Gold Status Through as club and in that interview. We talked in quite a lot of detail about the program. Now the good news is nothing really seems to have changed very much with as club seems that interferes. Say if you'd like I would encourage you to go back and listen to episode eleven, but basically as club makes it ridiculously easy to earn and maintain star Alliance gold status. The start is as club uses to your membership terms instead of the usual one year and these. These membership terms of based on the date you join the program so for example if you join on the first of January, two thousand and twenty one your next, your membership term is basically for two years from that day, and the next one will start on the first of January. Two Thousand and twenty three, then the January, two, thousand, and twenty, five and so on. Now with is a club only to forty thousand miles from as Yana all, Star lines flights in your two year membership term to an as club diamond status, which he is equivalent to star lines gold. Now, you then get to Cape. That status full the rest of your team shift him plus the next him so for another two years after that and then to Rainier in your next to you membership team, you only have two and thirty thousand miles at twenty three quarters of what you needed to get in the first place. That's basically fifteen thousand miles per year. When most other star alliance programs make you fly fifty thousand miles. That's five zero eight year. If you happen to have certain. Affiliated critic cards, requirements or even loa, which is just crazy, although those credit cards unfortunately, not really available to Australia's. And there is no requirement to actually fly on an. Aircraft he can and. There is miles either from Yana or any combination of star Alliance Airlines. Other is a bit of a catch here, and this is the case I should point out from many frequent flyer programs in the star lines, not just as Yana Club, but some of the economy classes on star lines partner airlines don't any Asiatic club miles. If you often traveling discount economy tickets on on star Alliance Airlines out of an Avon Ah. You might not own for those and. Just, to give you an example, the lower cheaper economy tickets on Zealand and Lufthansa. Probably the two star lines lines that I normally use the most. Own Any as club miles. which is a bit of a problem than it does actually make a difference to me, because those the airlines I'm flying quite a lot. By comparison I I currently easy united mileage, plus and the lower fe classes on Zealand. The Lufthansa Group Airlines do in United Miles. Say That that is something to keep in mind but That, said if ye can just fly, even one retain business class trip from Australia to Europe or vice versa every two years. That would almost be enough. To requalify for star alliance gold each to every two years and even. Like China for example, has deals quite regularly out of Europe for return business class flights to Australia new, Zealand felicity three thousand dollars now I know a China's not necessarily the most prestigious survey lines, and of course some you probably won't be able to fly them at the moment and with the current restrictions but Yeah, you can in quite a lot of miles almost enough to recall a five-star lines. Go for not really not very much money so. yeah. Club differently with looking T. you can also get lifetime star alliance gold status to any just half a million miles Todo, with the club program, which you gain is just so much lower than what you would need to end with. Other star lines programs dumb. That do office timelines lifetime status, not all of them do. To be honest. I am a little bit worried. That is Yana could eventually devalued the program at some point It'd be like Karina have announced that they're going to do next to you with this Guy PA program although they at least. Morning Year of notice. That was polite of them. And if if club does devalue, I might have to reconsider my choice of, but so far the good value is very much intact, and as long as they don't make any changes to the program I will be looking to make the switch. At some point over from united to a club. Let's all for this episode of AF on. Thanks again to my guest Hussein safe Saturday and thank you so much for listening. For more information about anything disgust in today's episode, you can check out the episode notes, and he'll also find linked to the AF discussion thread on the Australian frequent flyer. Forum where you welcome to discuss this episode, provide feedback or suggestions about the podcast or ask me a question for a future episode. And if you enjoy this podcast, I would really appreciate if you just take a minute to rate and review us on Apple podcasts, and if you haven't already done, forget to subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform. I met Graham and I'll be back next fortnight with more news tips and tricks or Australian travelers until the and safe troubles.
Volume 27: Emily Fletcher: Meditation is Medicine
"Nefarious man like the brain works and fucked up. The mind is one of the most deceiving manipulative pieces of equipment. Flesh human bodies on hers. I never have trusted my brain. You the decision maker. It's Rawnsley if this is your first volume welcome. This is a weekly series where I go inside. The mind of an entrepreneur. Potest athlete academic to decipher. What is the psychology of our decisions? Since we've lost reported the number of Kobe. Nineteen cases have gone up by over six hundred thousand new cases that six hundred thousand new cases in about a week. And by the time you listen to this a week later from today this would be old. News bought for the record. This was the latest from. Abc News Australia. Saturday of April twenty. Twenty Hello Jeremy Fernandez. The Corona virus pandemic continues to change the very fabric of modern life. But for the first time this week a straight to have been able to point to encouraging fears that shows severe restrictions are starting to have an affect. The number of daily new cases across the country has fallen below one for several consecutive days. A large part of that is down to fewer overseas travelers. Who had previously made up a large proportion of those numbers now that there fewer people coming in from overseas. We're getting a figure that reflects proportionally more community transmissions of rhinovirus among local carries the health minister. Greg Hunt says the signs are good. Strict measures will continue for some time. The virus does not take a holiday therefore none of us can relax in what we do. This in many ways is the most important weekend. We may face in the whole course of the virus if we can lock in gains that we've made as a nation through the courage and sacrifice of those on the health and medical in policing frontlines but also through the Mane's goodwill indiscipline of Australians. Then we can help really protect destroyed. Lives going forward and give ourselves the pathway trae. This was the last in person interview I did before. Cova nineteen chain circumstances very quickly. This interview was done on the twelfth of March when everything was normal and everything started to change quickly as the day progressed with Kobe. Nineteen and the spread in New York. So I was in New York and to begin my day. My morning started when I took an uber from Manhattan to Brooklyn to be welcomed into home in Home Office. So Emily Fletcher. I'm the founder of ziva meditation relatively new mom. I'M A new author. A book called stress less accomplish more used to be on Broadway Broadway for ten years. Loved it what I wanted to use this as a little girl but stress led me to having anxiety insomnia going gray getting sick getting injured. Today we go inside the mind of a performer. I suppose context is important because Emily Fletcher was performing at the most prestigious of stages on Broadway. I wonder if she knows. Mark Fisher from volume nineteen. Who was discussing with us about making resolutions and the psychology around that as well as the third like piece claiming that framework is memento. Mori's like no you're going to die and I think that why that matters is I think right now and again real time framework. I'm thinking like the first piece of course is to know who right now. Like what you WANNA do. Know what what principles of life matter to what's important to. I always find food and people to be the best binder for good conversation so the question of asked the most in my last thousand also interviews is if you could have dinner with anyone in the world who would it be an way. Would you have it okay? So Bora Bora the most beautiful place I've ever been. I'd love to have Oprah Murray Four Leo Richard Branson my husband my son my mom. I'd like my mom to listen in Marquette in love him dear friend and Ziva graduate. Who Else Obama. Yeah that'd be good. That'd be good. Wouldn't you just love to listen in on that conversation emily? You were saying how stress leading to have anxiety insomnia. Going great getting sick getting injured. Is there a happy ending? A happy ending found. Meditation cured my insomnia on the first day. Going Gray didn't get sick for eight and a half years started enjoying my job again. Just not why. Is Everyone not do this? Left Broadway went to. India started a three year training process to teach since graduating. I've taught twenty thousand people to meditate opened up a brick and mortar studio in New York created. The world's first online meditation training which is now called Ziva online Book is sold over fifty thousand copies in less than a year. Just came out on paperback and now the thing thing I love the most is being a mom to Jasper thing that brings you the most joy but the thing I'm most excited about Ziva is that we're in the process of creating a kids meditation course. I think it's going to be the world's best kids meditation training or working with Emmy Award winning writers from Sesame Street. We're building our own puppet. It's going to be three different age. Ranges of working with Dr Shefali were working with Harvard Child. Psychologists like it's it's going to be really really good and I think the world needs it so ready. The world is so ready Emily. What kind of results do you see for the ones who haven't really witnessed meditation? Al- mindfulness for that matter. The thing I'm most proud of anything that brings you. The most joy is getting e mails from my students every day or posts in our facebook groups that are like hey. I haven't had an anxiety attack in three weeks. Hey I started writing that book. Hey I lost twenty pounds. Hey I reunited with my mom. Loves A STRANGE WAY OF HEY. My daughter and I are speaking after ten years. Hey I you know. I got off my meds. Hey I started therapy you. It's GonNa hear this all day every day. We have a dock a spreadsheet with many different tabs with over a thousand testimonies actually hired someone. Full time to manage testimonials. That's how many we have and they just keep coming in. They just to organize them and to put them into categories and types. Like that is probably the thing I'm most proud of. It has nothing to do with me at has everything to do with them. Committing to the practice. But I am very good at communicating. This stuff like there are people who are better teachers than me and there are people who are better on camera than me. But there's no one who's as good at both as me so I'm very happy to be meditations ambassador. We've talked about the benefits of Meditation Lords of times throughout the series. We know that it can reduce stress depression and anxiety and make you feel more focused but in case you want already convinced that it really does improve your lifestyle. Here's just a few things that meditation can do for you. That you might not have considered it can slow down the progression of neurodegenerative diseases such as Alzheimer's and dementia according to a study done by the Beth Israel Medical Center in Boston. There's a link between meditation and Drew Stress Reduction and slowing sudden near a degenerative diseases such as dementia and Alzheimer's over the course of the study participating. Alzheimer's patients showed a slow progression off to eight weeks than patients who did not participate. It can also relieve pain meditation as a painkiller. Expect coming this semester sensory Kotex in the brain while inciting activity in other parts of the brain research done by the wake forest. Baptist University found that meditation has the power to decrease the intensity of pain by forty percent. And the general unpleasantness with pain by fifty seven percent comparatively morphine and similar painkillers. Reduce Pain Byron Lee about twenty five percent. And if that wasn't already enough there have been countless. Studies conducted suggesting that meditation can played important role in helping struggling with addiction. Some of the things don't value of these beliefs and patterns. What our current beliefs. What do we defend? What belief don't we like being challenged what patents have been created to avoid those beliefs being challenged in the first place. I'm very firm believer. That heaven is right here right now. Inside of you it is not a destination does not a police to get to there are no gates. The only gates are self imposed or internal layers of stress. But now I can very clearly say that heaven for me right now is playing with my son hearing his pure laughter and like moments where my husband and my son and I are all like when they're wrestling or he's feeding the dog. Cheerios and just squealing with delight like the purity of his laughter is visceral proof to me that we are all born. Perfect we are all born happy. We are all born in full complete bliss and are only job on. This planet is to undo all of the stress and trauma that is keeping us from experiencing that twenty four hours a day. What would total bliss. Feel like to. You would have to happen around you for you to feel that bliss and how realistic are those expectations. I Digress Emily. Meditation is like a whole bunch of stuff right. How can you get stuff done? If you're sitting quietly in a corner pointing out the obvious in and out ocean off my breath so look this is my whole career. This is what I've written and built a whole business on it. I wrote a whole book about it and it is. The message. Is Stress less accomplish more. I am taking the very powerful medicine. That is meditation and I am wrapping it in some delicious candy coating of like. Hey this is going to help you make more money and you're going to have better sex and Oh yeah you're also going to be less of a Dick. So why would you not do it? I'm just framing it? I'm just helping people to move towards the positive to see that the less stress they are the more productive they will be the better. Their lives will be because we all at the end of the day. Just one our lives to be better so even if you're not aware of your level of stress even if you're not aware of the trauma or you know healing that needs to happen internally. Everybody wants better sex. Everybody wants more money. Everybody wants better sleep. And then it's my job is just to be the gateway drug. My job is just to get people in the door. Just start just get disturbed peeling away the layers of stress and then usually when people want to go for more advanced knowledge or really. You know look for enlightenment or get into higher states of consciousness. Offer those trainings. But oftentimes people will go to other teachers or if they're looking to really have meditation be a part of identity. I'm not their teacher necessarily I'm just gateway drug and emily from a meditation standpoint. What does the sign suggest? This is different from ziva meditation. Where you're giving your body rests at somewhere between two to five times deeper than sleep again. That's not insignificant because of the rest piece that I said when you give your body the rest that it needs its healing itself not only from stress from today but all that stuff. We've been storing and ourselves from our past and maybe even what we've inherited. I've seen the papers that we're inheriting stress for at least two generations. I've heard seven but I can only find scientific papers. Were inheriting it for at least two so that means that if your grandparents were slaves or descendants of slaves if your grandparents were in the Holocaust this is legit trauma that you have to deal with. You've inherited the blueprint for your health. But you are the architect right so we take that seriously. All these outcomes on amazing but I suppose just like the alcoholics who know they need to stop drinking to the overeaters who know they need to stop eating. We always have the steps but something stops us. Well we we do have to find a teacher that resonates with us our message that resonates with US otherwise it falls on deaf ears and yes we have to be read even the old adage of when the student is ready the teacher will appear whatever that teacher is but I would say a huge amount of people. Staying in suffering is the fear of the pain of healing. Nobody wants to feel their feelings. We'VE BEEN TRAINED SINCE INFANCY SH-. Don't cry a bottle. Sh- don't cry. Have a snack shown cry have a toy. Don't cry don't cry you're fine. You're you're okay. You're okay you're safe. You Find Your Okay. And so we've been literally changed since infancy not a feeler feelings. Don't you know don't feel fat? Have some spanks? Don't feel only have some facebook. Don't feel sad have some Zoloft. Don't feel angry have some ZANEX. I don't feel don't there's billions of dollars of industry built on top of insuring it and I teach makes the feeling non-negotiable it's GonNa bring you out so all the stress all the trauma all of the stuff that's in there will come up and out and I would say ninety. Nine percent of people's real resistance to meditation is that it's the fear of the healing. It's the fear of feeling those feelings. It is not that they don't have time. It is not that they are too busy. It is not that they can't sit still it none of that. That's those all BS excuses. No one can sit still until you actually learn how to meditate. I mean I am a meditation teacher before I had this practice. I can tell you. The most amount of time ever sat still forty five seconds. Maybe three minutes. I wasn't reading writing planning exercising watching TV listening to music. I just being. I'm going to give most people three minutes. Max So people are like Oh meditations not for me. I just can't sit still. Bs You don't WanNa feel your feelings. You're terrified of what your mind is actually saying. You're terrified of for most of us the volcano that is just just waiting for a moment to erupt. And that's why a lot of people are so scared because if they even dip their toe into the emotions they know. It's going to be volcano. And so what the meditation does that? It just slowly slowly sloughs off the dead skin. It's it's exfoliating. The callous and people are scared of that as well. They want those calluses. They're like I need that armor. I need that protection around my heart if it softens. I'm GONNA feel too much to which I say you're feeling anyway. That pain is there anyway and my sweet boyfriend in highschool he wrote me a song and it said there's more room on the outside. What are we doing hog all inside? It's making us sick. It's making stupidest making a slow wasting our mental and physical cycles. And if we let that stuff up and out through meditation or therapy or Iowa Asca or exercise or whatever your path to healing is. It doesn't have to be meditation her most people. Meditation is a foundational component of their healing process and usually makes all those other modalities more effective but if we use these tools to get this stuff up and out. The really is more room on the outside. And then your body doesn't have to hold onto it via extra weight or sleep issues or chronic disease or pain or however it ends up manifesting on the physical plane. Meditation in different forms have been amazing for me recently. Maybe three weeks before the corona virus when mental across the globe. I reconnected with my mom after three years. And the point of change was definitely in between a meditation because I remember stopping and sending a message first of all. I'm so happy that that happened. I'm so happy reconnected. With your mom I can only imagine the ripple effect of healing for both of that will happen from that reunion so bravo thank you for doing that. Healing you're even seeing now. You heal yourself. That's is going to help. Heal your mom. This is probably GonNa help your whole family dynamic it will. He'll generations to come so people like I don't have time to meditate. Like what the fuck else are you doing? First OF ALL SISTER BRAIN. We're talking about and also. This is the least selfish thing you could be doing. Because if you don't handle this you're GONNA pass it down to your kids. They're gonNA pass it down to there's like we have to stop the lineage of trauma at some point and so thank you So we've talked about mindfulness. Decent amount state change and technique wise. This is where we're directing our focus. Any guided visualization most of the APPS. Out there where someone's talking you through where you're directing your your imagination to your chocolates or a waterfall or whatever. It's all fine but it's it's keeping you in your left brain realm of thinking and you're directing your focus and it's really only dealing with your stress and then now my boss yelled at me. I feel stressed. Let me do ten minutes of my APP. I feel better in the now when we come back why. Mindfulness is very different to meditation. And we go depot into the world of mystical sides The main objective of this project is to bring together entrepreneurs and creators who share similar values. So that they can find the courage to put out their authentic voice for the right people to hear which allows for them to make that impact on the world. Every great movement started with a memorable speed for access to full length interviews greater psychology of Entrepreneurship Dot Com and click the button. Emily at the start you mentioned about grandparents being in the Holocaust and how that affects someone. Today I'd love more clarification on inherited. I'm not even speaking about past life like our own past lives because that's the subject up for to be. There certainly are in any scientific papers on that. What I'm speaking about is inherited trauma things that we have inherited in our in our jeans and highlighting the jeans and our epigenetics. So I've heard people say that we have. We can inherit stress and trauma from the past seven generations. I can only find scientific papers proving that you inherited for the last two generations. This means that if your grandmother was beaten by her father or her husband that that left it changed the genes of her child and therefore your genes as well so that I do think we are now able to scientifically prove that an and we've tested on rats are starting to look at it in a big famine in Denmark and then also. They studied women who were pregnant during nine eleven. This is like the two times in modern history where we've had thousands of women pregnant during sort of traumatic time and then looked at the impact of that and obviously we know this is not good for pregnancy. Which is why. I'm such a big fan of teaching pregnant women to meditate because just like the baby can absorb the stress chemistry it can also absorb the bliss chemistry. So you know every time. You're meditating you're producing dopamine serotonin. Richard Bliss Chemicals. And that's sending a postcard to the baby in utero. It's basically everything you do every meal. You eat every time you meditate. That is all sending postcards to fetus. Educating it on what type of world it's going to be born into and so if you are if there's a famine going on then you're training the fetus to sea world of scarcity. You have to release tour up your fat. You have to prepare for an intense world and a lot of the kids who were born to those women who were pregnant during the famine. They are now suffering from obesity. But that makes more sense like we sort of get like. Oh of course. Whatever happens while you're pregnant but now we're actually able to prove even beyond that we're inheriting things now. The good news here is that does not fatalistic like I said you are inheriting a blueprint. But you're the architect. The good news is that our genetic code is not fixed it somewhere an feel free to fact. Check me on this. But I've heard certain scientists say that ninety five percent of our genetic code is epigenetics. Meaning that they're mutable their changeable so we're turning things on and off based on being in sunshine feet on the soil at exercise meditation sex healthy communication versus the opposite so meditation is about just being so it's not just being it is a skill and there is a very specific physiological phenomenon. Happening yes it is not as time not to be doing but there is a very specific catharsis happening. There is an excavation going on in the style of meditation that I teach and if people understand the opportunity cost of what stress has on them. The stress really is making us stupid sick and slow that according to Harvard Medical School. It's responsible for ninety percent of all doctors visits that most scientists are calling it the black plague of our century until chronometers. But you know another conversation for another time but when people really start to understand that when we're stressed our brain and body cannot help but think that tiger is attacking us and then it immediately goes into survival mode and all activating system. Which is this bundle of many neurons at the base of our brain ridiculous. Activating system is designed to filter out unnecessary information. Because at any given moment there's millions of inputs available to us and bring camp process them all simultaneously. It would have to filter out so if you're a stress when your wife knocked on the door you'll meet collectors are calling. My home is at stake. My car is at stake. My survival is at stake. You went into fighter flight. There was nothing else that you could think about in that moment other than your survival. That's why your heart started racing you're adrenaline cortisol went so your body. Even though it was just your wife knocking against your bed frame everything in your body thought you are about to die. So if you think that you're gonNA make really good decisions in that moment if you think you're going to come up with your most creative ideas if you think you're going to have productive healing conversations with your partner in that state of consciousness you are mistaken and yet that is what most people are living their whole lives and we are chronically stressed and forget about that moment of acute when you were even aware of it. A lot of us. Don't even know that we're aware of it. I'm sorry a lot of us aren't aware of the level of stress that we're in all the time like what our baseline has become and if you are living your life in that you're not making decisions you're not creative. Your sleep is likely not productive. Your immune system is not functioning as it was designed. Your cellular regeneration is not happening as it could. Your neurogenesis is not happening as it could. Just it really is costing us a lot and I think when people understand that then they see that. Oh me taking fifteen minutes to make. All of those systems function. Optimally is not wasting time. It is not just being. It is healing in a very specific way so that I can be smarter so that I can be faster than my sleep can be more efficient so I can be more intuitive so I can actually hear how nature is trying to use me. What ideas are trying to be burst through me? Because that's what our ideas are. They're not ours. They're not our own through this whole interview. I was saying to emily how in August I got introduced in Yoga for the first time and there are very few days now when I don't get at least of twenty five to forty five minute Yin Yoga session with instructions from my ipad so couple of things. One Yin Yoga. I think is really healing really restorative and it's quite similar to what I teach just so people understand the difference it probably seemed like the Yin and Yang sign the white in the black and so you notice that one one part of the circles going down the other part of the circle is going up and they are balancing each other so this is what most people think of when they think of yoga or like. I'm using my muscles I'm creating heat in the body. I'm strengthening you're sweating probably in a quote unquote regular yoga class. But that's all upward energy young energy whereas Yin Energy the downward and so in yen. You're not using your muscles you're just letting gravity do the work for your opening up your spine. It's very restorative it's cooling it's D- exciting and the type of meditation that teaches very similar. It's on that Yin side of the trajectory is D- exciting. You're using other tools. Not Yoga postures not awesome as but using other tools to D- excite the nervous system and the magic happens in the expectation. When you d excite something you create order when you create order in your body. The lifetime of stress can come up and out if a running around in that young energy. That excited stressed eat. Everything is moving so quickly. The is trying to leave but it can't find the exit. And so that's what we do when we practice meditation. We practice things like Yoga. When you do things like Yoga Anita any sort of cooling exciting practice is inducing. Rest rest is healing for the body if you get sick. What is your doctor and tell you to do rest. I to tell you to run a marathon swim six miles and then come back here. No vast rest. When you give your body the wrested it needs. It knows how to heal itself and one of the things that heals itself from his stress. Not only from today. But if you're doing the right type of respite practices you can also heal stress from the past. Stress affects us all in one way or another. Although it's not the most pleasant feeling it can be used where advantage in fact. That's why it's there just made up for the same situation that we find ourselves in today near a psychologist and author Rick Hansen States that the stress response is a normal adaptive coping. Response that evolved over hundreds of millions of years. Help our ancestors avoid steaks and get carrots. It's natural what's also natural there. Any safe in the wild is that more stressful situations are resolved quickly. One way or another did not trope. Biological evolutionary blueprint is to have long periods of mellow recovery. After US address modern life exposes us to mild to moderate but chronic stress constantly multitasking. Juggling too many things moving too quickly being bombarded with stimulation. But how is all that different from like me using meditation APPs but before that here is a sixth of April report from Good Morning America? We've got a little Monday. Motivation to help reboot your system is anxiety brought on by the corona virus. Mental Health Hotlines reported eight times normal call volume last month and today. New York Governor Cuomo is set to announce the New York state of mind the partnership with head space meditation APP to provide Free Services for people in the epicenter of the crisis. I know firsthand. George does to the benefits of meditation. Meditation Mentor Bob. Explains why it's valuable tool to have in your survival kit. Everybody sit back comfortably. He's me versus breathe in breathe out for many Americans a meditation. Practice is helping ease anxiety during this time of uncertainty. And it's no surprise. Meditation APPs like calm and head space are seeing a spike in usage. The MIND SETTLES DOWN IN THE BRAIN. Wakes up your body gains state abreast. Deeper THAN SLEEP. It improves serotonin which is neuro transmitter. For happiness so it really reboots system and this leads me to the second part of your question because you have to do in ten fifty minute. Meditations that are guided stuff on their APPS and forget about. It doesn't change their life. They're like yeah. It was cute. It was fine. It's like a pedicure get around to it when I have a little extra time and that unfortunately is what most people are thinking of meditation right now. Oh that's a free APP on my phone. That do I have a meeting in a doctor's Office for ten minutes. And what and this is why. I'm really educating people on the difference between mindfulness and meditations so that we see that they are different toolset affect the brain in different ways. So mindfulness is the art of bringing your awareness into the present moment and right now we can take three mindful breaths. I could walking through mindfulness exercise right now. It will be fine. You might feel nice at the end of it. It's likely not going to change your life. It's it is a state change for you listening. Every time you learn a tactic that creates a state change in you. It is super important to pay attention to why it is being caused. And how can you change your state by practicing these methods walking in the woods? Washing dishes exercising. And that's why people say exercise is my meditation. Biking in the woods is my meditation. I'm like what you're saying. Is You feel conscious. You feel present. You feel aware in those moments which is beautiful and necessary and powerful especially in this day and age. We've all become behemoth of the brain. Mindfulness is a very powerful tool. It is the art of bringing awareness into the present moment but the main distinction that I wanna make here is that mindfulness is very good at dealing with your stress in the now state change. This is very different from the type of meditation that I teach which is creating a trait change. It is getting rid of your stress from the past. It is healing you on a cellular level. It is healing you on even a pre-verbal level and that is why I say that I it creates this catharsis that it is healing the stuff that we've been storing in our bodies but this is where the magic happens when you get rid of that stress from your past this is what ushers us into higher states of cognitive performance. This is what allows us to accomplish our to do list in three hours instead of five. This is what decreases our sleep latency. Which means we can fall asleep faster. Because your brain isn't spinning. Its wheels from the day. You just you've handled that while you meditated. You just fall into sleep. Your sleep becomes much more efficient and then over time more rejuvenating so the ripple effect of that can be quite profound and really. I would say any practice Yin Yoga yoga meditation. Diet's all of it. Em Dr Therapy really well up to the physiology and this leads me back to the original part of the conversation of what is heaven. It's right here right now. It's available to you in this moment. But most of us are having a hard time accessing it because either we have some purification that needs to happen physically or emotionally. And this is why you're saying always changing my diet. I was changing my exercise and nothing was was healing. It's because likely there was a bit of emotional trauma that your brain was programmed in a certain way and your brain is responsible for printing every single cell in your body. So if you don't change that script if you don't change that piece of code it's GonNa keep printing the same cells. There is enough science. That shows us. Facts about humans giving power to manifest situations events and things into their lives and also. They don't happen by accident. I'm not sure if you remember Melissa Embassy from volume twenty one say this. I feel truly proud that I've been able to move through what I've been able to move. Sir I've been. I feel truly proud that I have reprogrammed so much because I wouldn't have what I have if I didn't and so I feel proud of myself for continuously doing the work and showing up to my meditation twice a day every day. Getting support from counselors coaches therapists psychotherapists. You know older people that have supported me over the past ten years. I'm I'm so grateful for them. Also your environment dictates your successes. We've seen happen. You have twins. Identical genetic twins put one in a concentration camp with the other one in a yoga studio in Hawaii. They are not GonNa look feel act or reproduce the same at the end of forty years so we get it but we're still but but my Taco Bell didn't influence me that Jack Daniels didn't bother me exercising for ten years that didn't affect me my chronic stress and watching the news twenty four hours a day. That's not going to affect me. But it does so the meditation piece. Really good at creating a treat. Change getting rid of your stress from the past. Which is what I've seen where the magic happens where you really start to have these leaps in cognitive performance and actually leaps in consciousness. It's when the magic. We're used to feel like oh you're just in the right place at the right time you think about your mom and call her and then she's like I was just thinking about you which leads me to the third 'em which is probably the most. Woo the AMS which is manifesting. I get a lot of I rolls when I say I teach manifesting people like Oh God I'm laying want me to secret my dreams like I have a job to do. I'm half a million dollars in debt. I don't have time to manifest. I have to work for a living. And yes. That's all true. Your is Oprah and Wayne Dyer talking about manifestation mastering the art of manifestation. How is that different from the law of attraction? It's very very different. Yeah The the law of attraction and I'm not. I'm not here to put down the love attraction. I think it's I think what the attraction the secret open people up to a way of thinking absolutely it had its flaws because it Allow some people to think that all you had to do is think about a bicycle near would show up and the key word that you use in here over and over and over again in every chapter. Is that in order to attract or manifest. Anything you have to be in alignment with your source which is with God to stay connected to the ocean. Can't just sit around and stuff so the basic thing that never taught me a lot of this is from the teachings of novel Never got her. Who died in the nineteen seventies? He's he he basically said that All of us have within us. This amazing capacity to manifest and attract anything that we want into our life. So how we call it. What what words that we use. We have to be able to say You know in the secret. They say you get what you want. You know what is missing. And what said what what has come to me what I got from the. Im discourses and what? I get from the New Testament which I read before it is that you you say I will attract into my life what I am not what I want. Manifesting does not mean. You don't work. Manifesting does not take you off the hook. Manifesting to me means consciously designing a life you love. It's you getting intentional about what you want your life to look like. How much money do I want to make this year? How much sex would I like to have in a month? What DOES MY DREAM FRIEND GROUP? Look like where's my dream vacation. What are my legacy to be asking questions like that. Which sounds simple. Most people are not asking those questions. Were asking questions like what should I do? What's going to make those money? What's GonNa Make my dad proud? What'S GONNA justify? One hundred thousand dollars spent on that degree. What's GonNa look out on Instagram? Those are the questions were asking. Should should should can't can't should need and instead the manifesting we're just asking one question what would I love right now but I love right now. It is the simplest you see. What would I love that puts you into spirit? That put you into possibility. Puts you into enthusiasm what? I love now puts you into present moment awareness. Not What did I want? I was in high school. Not What it's going to be good for me twenty years from now when I retire. What would I love right now? And the magic happens when you start manifesting. After the meditation you D excite the nervous system the right and left hemispheres of the brain. Start functioning in unison. You start reminding yourself that you're actually God pretending to be human. You're actually the ocean pretending to be a wave you manifest from that place you start to ask these powerful questions from that place. Two things happen one. You're able to hear your own intuition which I would argue is nature communicating to you and to your able to more effectively communicate your desires to nature and I believe it is a two way conversation. If you look at human brain it splits right down. The Middle Fifty fifty fifty percent left brain fifty percent right brain and the way I interpret that as it. It's fifty percent individuality and fifty percent totality does not either or we are not fatalists nor are we totally in control of responsible for everything. That's happening if that was true. It'd be like all right. I'M GONNA make a million dollars at four. Forty-seven next Tuesday like no. You're not it's like fifty fifty and I think embracing that balance. The mastery comes in in knowing how to dance the dance between individuality and totality knowing. What's your job? Which is to place the order with the cosmic waitress at the cosmic restaurant and then allowing her to do her job which is to deliver the order which she's happy to do coming up on. The psychology of Entrepreneurship Co founded a movement of a Ted Talk. You can find it and the movement is called. What made you smile to them? Even if you don't get unscrewed up even if you don't become a doctorate in anything with the rest of your wife which is what I was capable of and I'd be proud to know you because you are streaked. Goodness in you don't grade medical school and you have no idea how much the world needs that. Goodness I wrote an article which became part of an eight part series and it was called. White. People kill themselves. Pain is pain suffering is feeling alone and pain. Everybody has a back story so I interviewed emily. Because she's the founder of ziva meditation. And he's the leading expert in meditation for Extraordinary Performance. Emily started out performing on Broadway and has performed in big name productions like Chicago. The produces chorus line. She is the author of stress less accomplished. More which polluted at number seven on Amazon awoke has been featured in the New York Times the today show vogue and ABC News. She has thought meditation to twenty thousand students all over the world and I think the number keeps going up students having clued grammy Moscow and Emmy winners famous athletes giant names in the Business World Navy Seals and social influences. But she works with people from all walks of life from busy. Moms to Fortune. Five hundred list as she is a Broadway star and friend. This is most of the production special. 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Has Adelaide's COVID luck run out?
"This is an abc podcast. One of the only things worse than quarantine is surprise. Quarantine just dance. The thousands of people who are leaving south australia in recent days and were caught off guard by southern border restrictions designed to contain the state's growing covid nineteen cluster. So i must. Sister ginny arrived at seven. Thirty pm. On saturday by qantas from adelaide. Perth and it wasn't until just is dot that jin actually got an email saying that she had to self quarantine that they've been three cases in south australia Shania head to fourteen day. Quarantine as we test this morning and we ought to find somewhere to cry tame so we'd booked some accommodations for the next eighteen days. Sorry we have to stay with our kovic tests. Come back negative or positive and We'll see six weeks out from christmas. The state is taking on the edge of a serious outbreak emerging in the northern suburbs of adelaide with hundreds of people already in precautionary quarantine. So how did this happen. And how bad could it get. I'm angela i'm steven smiley on the signal today. Six month lucky strike with covid nineteen might have just run out. So he's the state prepared or things about to get a whole lot worse not just for essay but the rest of australia. I would like to advise that in bound. International flights to add light have now been suspended at our request for the remainder of this week. Our priorities ensuring that we have enough meaty hotel capacity to make any local quarantine requirements. This morning i received a call from the prime minister. And i accepted his offer for increased support from the australian defence force. We will throw absolutely everything this. This isn't the sort of press conference. The premier stephen marshall is used to giving and that's because he's stage along with queensland w. Tasmania the ict and the northern territory had been doing extremely well at containing. The virus. essay has been incredibly good at this. All lucky depending on who you ask. And that's not to say they haven't been some close calls. I mean an entire school in theban in adelaide's west went into lockdown just in august. But it's different to what's happening in the city's north right. Now said closing their borders to south australia as the country's most concerning outbreak in months grows there are now seventeen. People infected in an adelaide cluster. Hope minister greg hunt says he's been briefed by the acting chief medical officer and the national incident senta. We are standing up but the national incident center contact tracing capability to assist south strategy. Thomas more college and most unlikes primary school were among a dozen thoughts closed for decontamination. So understandably adelaide somewhat in shock. At least the one we spoke to was tori. Let's just get you to introduce yourself with your name and position if you could. I'm sorry shepherd. A freelance journalist calmness of the advertising end abc adelaide regula. And how you feeling right. Now it's been a pretty bumpy forty-eight hours fuel a city like everyone in south australia i am reeling. Things happened so quickly on friday. Everybody was talking about spending christmas together. Planning christmas travel and to welcome people back south australia sunday. We had a few cases of community transmission the essence april and then yesterday morning suddenly so seventeen now wondering what's next year now. Let's let's talk about the this sort of growing cluster. So what we know about where it started and how it spread. We think we know quite a bit already about what's happened. At jacob off the sun goes faria is fairly certain. It came from many hotel. Which is where we're putting arrivals to quarantine that person than pass it onto the mother who went to a hospital which is another place worried about an outbreak and it turned out his whole family. Such fifteen of the seventeen during the same family family frighteningly includes directing aged camped and school students went to school and some york prison. Yeah i mean that's really close to the worst case. Scenario for the start of a cluster. Isn't it excluded really. Perfect storm in terms of the amount of contact people had with other papal at the health that a long list of potential contact. So it's lots of public transport a hungry. Jacks that has now had to close down and two schools of course down as well and that least the tory mentioned will probably grow as health scrambles to track down. People might come into contact with positive cases and while that happens. There's also a big drive to get people with flu. Like symptoms tested and a whole lot of new restrictions that climbing overnight although they're still pretty loose compared to what victorians had to deal with as of midnight ought to not activities gyms recreation centers trampoline and play cafes these will close community sports fixtures and training temporarily cancelled pubs clubs and restaurants will be kept at one hundred per venue with one per four square meters and no stand up consumption even outdoors private residence. I kept now at ten percents per residence areas like niles tattoos and hairdressers mosques will be mandatory for the service provided an encouraged for the client. What is the mood like around. This people credit shocked. I think fennell am particularly because there's a fear that hundreds more could have been exposed waved seeing what happened in victoria and everybody was celebrating victoria getting on top of the virus there and loot travel families between melbourne and adelaide. So people haven't seen their families for awhile looking for two reunions and then That of the border. Yeah now. let's talk about that. The reaction from the other states and territories has been incredibly swift. I guess if we've learned anything over the last of this pandemic particularly from the victorian experiences that you sort of have to go really fast and allies can make it worse. So in terms of boorda's what have the other states and territories done so so people did move the state's move really quickly. We should be grateful for that. Ignited cause inconvenience some people. So i w wri. Which of course had closed voted for quite some time. Suddenly shut. Sport is so quickly that some people were in the air on the way over to pose a territory in fact smart brother out this morning and is currently style and airports trying to workout and just get on a plane back to at elaine who said its borders opposition in new south wales vs h live with and every time. There's an outbreak you can't shut down borders disrupt lives but the ice tate is warning picking should reconsider travel to shut. Its orders to us. Efforts queensland and tasmania is a slightly odd one notes. It's changing the border rules but will include just questioning and fuss testing. Perhaps i'm not sure if that'll last if there are bookcases here highs process when a person arrives at the april there'll be a sit down with him symptoms. Have you been to any specific locations. And as tory said it's been incredibly disruptive anyone travelling out of sl right now been checked in but we abishur the news so we've just cancelled. We weren't getting on the we didn't want to. I'm here because originally i was meant to be unveiled for the long weekends And it satellite. I have this happened size. Bit about lucklily. South australians have had through the back end of the last little period the the luxury of traveling without quarantine into other states. I mean i guess. South australians at probably might plans may be queensland for the holidays going into state over christmas. I mean is all thrown into disarray. Now if you if you live in original essay paper will feeling really relaxed paper with making a lot of chris plans. I meant to go to queensland and a couple of weeks. I've got lots of friends who may be traveling for work or pleasure. And of course the round pupil looking forward to welcoming back to adelaide again christmas. We don't know what will happen by. But people are very quickly evaluating slams. It is of course really early. Days in terms of these cluster. And we don't know quite what's going to happen but there is. I think in natural reflex in analysis to try to apportion some blame or the workout. At least what's gone wrong It looks to have emerged from as you say a hotel quarantine or is there any sense or any discussion happening at least locally that maybe that was a screw up that there was someone who's basically that the system has filed. Will i think the presence of the coronavirus in the canadian shows that something's gonna roll have seen people already guy blaming paper for having a family gathering and so on but i i think that states out there i mean we know a lot of people dometic so it's not site we can say that somebody had call favor in still went round and hug family. People will of course they wanted to apportion blame and There is a question of the way that i should be doing. Regular testing of workers at the medicine. Hitel and that'll followed. You know officer always stays blamed the virus not the paypal okay. So too early for the blame game. Yeah but that's not to say it's too early to start looking at how prepared they were for the crucial stage. They're in right now. What we know about south australia's contact tracing system and howard busted. He's i contact. Tracing system is pretty good. The primaries make very clear that the entire on improving it as they've gone along having said that we don't have some of measures in place in other sites you go to the pub with at scan. Qr cards necessarily have contacted house at every venue that garson as sorry that could cause a stumble in finding these people who might have been exposed. Yeah what measures have been placed. Because i've been in and out of south australia over the course of this year and the thing that really is very different to the eastern states in south the absence of the cue cards and the building of the contact lists has business have some businessmen during that or. There's just very little of that that's happening businesses have to do it. They have to do it. Functions like weddings and funerals in general. It's not something you say at all And community transmission. Sorry the main thing that we're relying on. Its every venue. Had to have a cloven marshall which sounds quite serious but often it was just to have the extra training to monitor what was going on. There were restrictions on the number of people could be in a set spice at any time but time you pretty much go around and sign him. That's the thing right. Whenever something like this happens and by something like this. I mean a cluster. Because this isn't the first time in australia. There's always a bit of a narrative that emojis like this is a wake-up coal and you know this idea that perhaps we need to be more vigilant as individuals Do you think people have been social distancing and taking the appropriate steps say mosques and things like that so far and we'll let change now it will be on the streets of they really haven't been wearing at all. Social distancing fell a little bit by the wayside Been surprised by how quickly paypal necessarily close friends would come in for a hug. I probably based on the more paranoid side was avoiding that they're appear to be any threat. It's really hard to maintain that vigilance for months. At a time. When it doesn't seem to be a danger of people just fell back into those habits included. I am being her June what it might come back. But so now i just want to hug a few of my close friends relatives because we never know when the restrictions will come back in and we really will have to socially distance. Alright so it looks like those days are over in adelaide at least for a little while. So how long until we know how bad this is. It may be that we can get right on top of that really quickly and it will celebrate but we also know that it can quickly spiral out of control. It's no cluster. Which is what we have at the moment. Seventy-nine nine people and we know each other but they don't know who they've been in contact with. I wish we'd would get exponential growth no longer be able to track. Who's giving it to to this case that contact tracing works and we shut this down quickly and in terms of how long it would take to. That has worked and that things are under control. Are we talking wakes. are we talking. When when would we have some idea. Do you think we'll think of it this way. So it was on sunday that there were four cases than it was on monday saint cases. There's a huge amount of testing. That's going on paper lining up down the street. So we'll get more answers about whether it's out that we've also Testing which will heartfully show pretty quickly spreading I mean i. I hate decided but we might not pretty saying it's completely out of control signal for today. If you're enjoying the podcast please let your friends know you can subscribe. Abc listen up all spotify or wherever else. 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Could Australia eliminate COVID-19?
"This is an ABC PODCAST. Eliminating covy nineteen sounds like a pretty attractive option right now. Zealand looks like it's on. Its Way to doing just that. And it's been talked about as real option here. So why on Earth wouldn't I'm Steven smiling? And I managed Love Wipe Year and today on the signal the pros and cons of elimination and what it would take to get to zero cases. Hum tiny get you to introduce yourself as perishable professor. Twenty participants blakely epidemiologist in public of medicine specialist. University of Melon. Tony Blankley yes. So this is the guy who has seen steering is through the big conceptual twists and turns of this pandemic so far and we wanted to come back to him today because an idea. He's been talking to us about for weeks. The prospect of eliminating covered nineteen from Australia. Altogether has been getting a lot of airtime right. Even the chief medical officer Brendan Murphy has been getting questions about it. Nobody yet knows whether it's possible. We don't know whether you actually can complete doing well now. They've certainly suppressing as we are. There's no until they've completely Got Rid of old transmission for a prolonged period of time. You can't say they've eliminated China so so that the united but now they clearly get what was going harder at it so even though he's got reservations about how feasible elimination is as a strategy. Is You can hear there. The fact that he's talking about it at all is really interesting because it has always been part of the debate. Yeah for the longest time. It was all about two options option. One herd immunity which the Health Minister Greg Hunt has brought out. Some people had talked about this idea of herd immunity. We've rejected that as a country because heard. Immunity is sixty percent of the population on the best advice. We have fifteen million people. If they're a one percent loss of life that would be catastrophic loss of human life. And then there's option to sometimes referred to as flattening the curve or suppression strategy is very much on that path. Right now trying to lower the numbers of new infections. And you'd have to say it seems to be going pretty well but the thing is as long as we have some cases in the community. And there's no vaccine. The country will need to live in some version of lockdown that there is that third option. Yeah which we've talked about before with tiny and that's elimination going all the way to zero cases so the question is is this time Yes the peace are the numbers that we've had here of trump quant quickly corker the non expect a quicker than most expected. The second thing is you think compared across the ditch with New Zealand who is actively pursuing. Elimination plan is outnumbered two different on a per capita. Bison does make you pools and think that maybe we could give it a crack. It will be hot worked so the comparison hosting ABC's the health report and of the corona. Kaas podcast Dr. Norman Swan spoke to Michael Baker. Who's a professor of public health at the University of Tiger? And they talked about how New Zealand's numbers attracting there's one model that's been done and it's still being reviewed reactively and it says that after four weeks of knock down we might just be there so give or take into April beginning of May and how many new cases a day were you having before. The prime minister announced the lockdown and the border controls about ninety cases day and yesterday we had eighteen cases so in other words. We can't use the excuse me that you're smaller than us. Because we've got about one hundred cases a day and community transmissions about fifty or so so it's very similar numbers. It does get harder. The the lighter you leave it I guess where is the thresholds? At which point. It is no longer possible in your opinion. Look this is a pretty challenging question to answer. It's more like how. How do you want to? Are you willing to take the risk? So we wanted to find out what that risk was. Because you'd think that eliminating cove nineteen would be all upside but it turns out the odd definitely two sides to this. What IS THE CASE FOR? Elimination of the cases tantalizing compelling them because if he were successful when I emphasize F- If you were successful then you get to the episode and you can loosen up and as long as you're border. Control is really good which Australia could achieve. It's not and then you can pretty much God. That law says normals issue achieved elimination. You could actually get to the side and actually have a much more open society a more vigorous economy for that period of time up until we hopefully have a vaccine. So if that's the case four elimination tantalizing as you say what is the case against it because against as the lockdown is GonNa be strong stronger than what we're doing now is going to mean that when you go out and ride your bike his staying in your neighborhood. You're not going any further than that. That means that the number of times you got supermarkets not uncanny. It'll be once a week. It means that when you go out to the supermarket ninety one piston. The house hung out. Not all than that. That means that they'll be much more stronger. Social distancing that means that the definition of WHO's essential workable strength not for example. Two box up for me right. Now there's a bunch of people making on a residential house that won't be happening so it's all things will get tightened up for a period of time for weeks at least and then see if we can actually achieve limitation. So it's a big cost so big cost on people's liberty freedom to move around. I'm a big cost on people with the children being at harmon which use in the ability to be productive as much second weekend from all sorts of things in the pot pretty worries me is how that she'd not shared equally across. Different Socioeconomic Kurtz so the people in the GIG economy going to be pretty hypo this. The People Don hit the same financial resources of somebody's already got the house. Halfway off digby hip hop on this. It's GonNa be a tough fraud but the tantalizing thing is on the other side if you were successful if we were successful as it would be a lot more at that point so we think of what we have now as a shutdown but in reality it could be a lot more restricted than what we had guests. I have family and Nissan. We competed nights in what they living for. The moment is stricter than what we're looking for Okay that's what it would look like for four weeks. Yes theoretically at least bit. Even after that first month there would be new risks to consider. So let's think about will never be a hundred percent. Sure with eliminate can't prove effect that nothing exists so if we fought with achieved elimination we opened up and all of a sudden outbreak. Takeoff quite ferociously. Unless we had really good surveillance plice. We were still testing. Everybody who tuned up. Gp WITH ANYTHING. That might be mildly like a curve it carries we had public have with ready to go through the contact tracing. They would need to have that. Backup that backup Surveillance Monitoring System. That was active looking for crisis. Even if I don't exist looking for those cases and if I find something that's slamming down on a really hot which may will mean for Where even on toss city just going back into lockdown for a couple of weeks to actually keep it under control. If you're society wants to maintain that sort of reasonably moving around the elimination well and I guess the big risk really the the biggest risk of all is that we go to all that trouble and then it doesn't work. Yeah Yeah it is and this is why I keep emphasizing. That elimination is something you go to the probability of success. So that's the sort of thing that myself and I was a wicky for at the moment trying provide some numbers and quantification around there where I sit at the moment if you wanted me to the crystal ball here. I reckon this is not government policy. I RECKON IF THE COUNTRY GOES LIMITATION. You might do something like okay. We'RE GONNA go hot at this four weeks and then we're GONNA loosen up and if we loosen up and we haven't eliminated we're just GONNA go. Well we tried and move directly into suppression size and deals that way. If we go the elimination I think it will be a predetermined period fund which we go hot and then we just have not because we stand much longer and when we opened to low crates massive outback off until both discussed suppression laws society. Back and then we can just keep listening so I think which goes the minute. We're looking at a period of lockdown. We'll suppression that slowly loosened off so it's not a guarantee and it's not free of cost all free of risk but it's a big payoff right. Yeah that's if you can sustain it so we're mentioning here correct on. The Nation has gone pretty well and pick reasonable program policy of having succeeded. That boss is to collect mistrial and so we come out of a houses. What do we do? We keep incredibly strong control. Because that's the quickest way from the get back so it'd be really full strong warranting of people who walked come to Australia. Two weeks per piston to be cleared but we also need to bank home possibility ability that there is a little bit of ciculating out there still that we couldn't find but we can still hit really hard if it pops up so we would be having extremely high amount off testing and prime ricky. Anybody who's got symptoms like covert be asked not implode. Taganka themselves tasted so that if there is any small outbreaks off carpet we can contain a very rapidly and very strongly to retune ourselves to what we think is an elimination world. That's what we would have to do to enjoy the UP NAPA society on the other side. Okay so super strong border control and testing regimes and just keep dot up until we get a vaccine seeming data ever happens. What if we don't get a vaccine because that's something that is talked about to get one you know? He's elimination perhaps a bit of a dangerous choice. In that way in that you just have to live like this forever. Keeping it simple before about playing the probabilities. A little bit decision. Making what's the elimination? Strategy is not just a property. Use or to what to what extent we achieve limitation is also that nagging question of. What if we don't get a vixen at the end of us because everything hinges on the idea will the harp with the promise that we have a vaccine that whole population can be given an eighteen months? Oh it's time now I think from what I can see as that. We're certainly bid on fifty percent chance that way vexing of some sort of probably won't be at Mata only Mike Sixty seventy percent of people immune but it will be useful is also a probability that we simply won't get a vaccine in that timeframe vaccine in this particularly useful at all three four years so that needs to be factored into the elimination planning elimination option. Because there's a real risk of the backing you basically stay in an isolated Australia for quite a long period of time until the NFL's never viable being. We need to just take a big breath and slowly lit. Boss develop the hidden immunity as the option of last resort That's it from us today. And you interested in that question at the end there about how long it might take for the world to get a covert nineteen vaccine. Make sure you subscribe. We've got a whole episode on that topic in the works and in the meantime on twitter and we have an email it's the signal at ABC dot net dot. We'll catch Itamar by you've been listening to an ABC podcast discover more great ABC. Podcasts live radio and exclusives on the ABC listen APP.