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This is ninety nine percent visible. I'm Roman Mars. The new film green book is rolling out across the country. I have not seen the film. So I can't speak to its merits or shortcomings. But while people are possibly being introduced to the concept of the green book for the first time. We thought we'd we released this story from a few years ago about the origin and significance of the green book, the negro motorist travel guide to the segregated US is an amazing story and one of my all time favorites as a special bonus. In this episode will also be playing a green book story from Nate Demeo of the memory palace made head Quincy, gently written his memory palace. Episode called open road about the green book, and we both released them without having heard the other. And I think hearing them one after another is a real treat. It highlights. Our shows similarities and differences in our approach to a subject. It makes me very happy to share them together today. I hope you like it. This is the American dream of freedom on wheels and automotive age traveling on I'm saving superhighways, futurama's breathe the nineteen forties. Fifties and sixties were the golden age of road. Travel cars have become cheap and roomy enough to carry families comfortably for hundreds of miles. The interstate highway system had started to connect the country's smaller roads into a vast nationwide network. Finally tourists could make their way from New York to California with the windows down and the wind in their hair. Seeing the grandeur of America along the way, we become the nation on wheels with more motorized mobility than ever dreamed of before. But of course, this freedom and mobility wasn't available to everyone. That's our senior editor and splash of cold water Delaney hall because in nineteen fifty. Six the year that federal funding made the interstate highway system possible. Jim crow was still the law of the land in the south racial. Segregation was enforced by law and had been since shortly after reconstruction in many parts of the north the codes were enforced in practice and these codes could make a simple road trip really complicated for black travelers. How is this? Is that a good level as all you picking me up while they're this is Curtis graves? Okay. My name is Curtis graves, and I'll blonde nineteen thirty eight. So I'm a little older than most of the people who are listening to this. Curtis would eventually become a Texas State Representative and then he'd go on to work at NASA. And then he'd become a photographer. But as a kid he grew up in the segregated south and for many years, his parents tried to shield him from that reality. I've often said that both my mother and father were the best lies that I knew for instance, we sat in the back of the bus because it was cooler there. We wrote in the front of the train because you could get off quicker. We sat upstairs in the movie because you had better seats in upstairs. Of course that ruse couldn't last. And by the time Curtis was a college senior in Houston, Texas in the mid nineteen fifties. He was fully aware of what it meant to be a black person living under Jim crow. There's one experience in particular that stands out in his mind. He was just twenty one years old and getting ready to drive to a college meeting in Waco about three. Hours north west of Houston. He agreed to take a couple of acquaintances. They happen to be white women. I said to myself might be in for some difficult times. He, but you know, I I had to soldier John. To get to Waco Curtis had to drive to a stretch of east Texas that was notorious in those decades for racial violence. Oh, yeah. Those communities were pretty bad around dusk the traveler has gone hungry. So they pulled over at a roadside diner as soon as we got in the front door. The guy said sorry, but you can't come in here. We don't serve black people at all. So the three of them went back outside and Curtis devised a plan. They'd try another restaurant right across the street. I said to them the two of you go in get a table. And after you seated and the waiter a waitress comes up to you, tell them that you have a boy that's driving you. And that you want to know whether he can you can bring him in to eat. So the women walked inside. And they asked the waitress if Curtiss could come inside to join them in a ladies, of course, no problem at all. So as long as I was. That boy, and they had driver I could eat with them at a table in a restaurant. But if I were equal to them, I could not. This kind of humiliation on the road was routine and had been going on for decades. Many people wrote into the NWC pea around this time describing experiences just like Curtis's to home. It may concern before starting our recent vacation trip to several eastern states, this I am a member of the NWEA C P and in a call report an incident occurring on January first at a golf service station in Macon, Georgia, my wife, and I went to the restrooms to refresh ourselves then found a vacant table, ten minutes past and no one came to service. He informed me that the restaurant for the color was in the back. It seems to me dealers should not be permitted to sail gas and oil and not provide these comforts for us. Also, some travelers would drive all night instead of trying to find lodging in an unfamiliar and possibly dangerous town, they'd pack picnic. So they didn't have to stop for food. Some people would even carry portable toilets in the trunks of their cars knowing that there was a good chance they'd be turned away from roadside restrooms. But since nineteen thirty six a guy named Victor Hugo green had been trying to help with some of these problems to make life easier for thousands of black motorists state-by-state he'd been putting together a travel guide with listings of restaurants, hotels and service stations. That would welcome African American travelers. He called it the negro motorist green book, the green book for sure. Victor green who died in nineteen sixty lived in Harlem New York during the height of the Harlem renaissance his apartment was not far from Duke Ellington's, his office would eventually be situated near Small's paradise a famous nightclub. Victor didn't have the most obvious background for starting to travel guide. He didn't work in tourism. He wasn't a writer. He was a mailman in Hackensack New Jersey, but he kept hearing stories about discrimination on the road. So he would go do his route in Hackensack, New Jersey, come back home and work on a green book at night compiling these addresses, typing them up and putting them in the book for this is Calvin Alexander Ramsey playwright, author and filmmaker and years ago Calvin started researching the history of the green book, he learned that the green book wasn't really the first guide of its kind. In fact, Victor may have gotten the idea from Jewish travelers because the Jewish. Community was also having issues on the open road with a lot of places saying restricted, and that was a code word for gentiles only when Victor published his first green book, it just covered New York, and he heard from around the country from other carriers and other people saying we really need this nationwide. But it wasn't that easy to gather information from across the country back then long distance phone calls were expensive. And that Calvin says is when Victor green realized that being a mailman was his secret superpower, there were African American. Let a carry us all of United States at this time. We're talking about nineteen thirty six, and so he knew about, you know, the relationships that the mailmen have what their homeowners or apartment dwellers delivering that mail. So just like today the mailman is part of the community. So Calvin says Victor tapped into this network spreading the word about his guide through the National Alliance of postal and federal employees. A letter carrier union Calvin says postal workers across the country scouted potential green book locations in their cities and towns, he says some even asked families they delivered to if they'd be open to hosting travelers in their homes and update agreed. Then they will send the information to victory green in Harlem. Victor was able to get a feel force of letter carriers who are all over the country who acquired materials in names and addresses and businesses for him wherever they were the blackmail, man. You got a green book, salesman or recruiter? Pretty quickly the green book caught on businesses. Many blackout began getting in touch with Victor hoping to advertise and hoping to be listed black newspapers signed on his sponsors, Victor, eventually retired from his job as a letter carrier and started working on the guy full-time, he even opened an affiliated travel agency that helped tourist arrange trips, but still there was the challenge of distribution how to get the guide into the hands of travelers who needed it that happened in a few ways the United States travel bureau signed on to help out. And then there were the more informal networks, well, churches Pullman porters the urban league into Busey p the masonic lodges. There was a very wide very distribution process in place for these green books, and there was an important corporate sponsor to a big one. Tops and gas extra fine. There's his mile for every mile at the S O sign the and and. Oh, Meg your. They motoring SO also known as standard oil and now known as Exxon Mobil was one of the few oil companies back then than actively pursued black customers. They franchise their stations to African American operators, and they had a black Representative on staff James billboard Jackson who helped plays green books in many of those stations as well as the white own ones SO may have done this out of a sense of fairness and equality. John D Rockefeller who founded standard oil in eighteen seventy had married into a family of abolitionists who were part of the underground railroad, and he'd voted for ABRAHAM LINCOLN back in the day. But as a probably did it for another reason to money, Honey, it has to do with money. Remember Curtis who had the crappy experience driving across east Texas, his dad operated? One of the first black owned Esso's stations in New Orleans where Curtis was born in raised. It was called Buzi and buddies. 's the economic logic of stocking. The green book was pretty simple. He says if you want black people to buy your fuel. Why don't you give them an opportunity to see that they can travel and find places to stay while they are on the road traveling so Curtis. His dad kept a shelf of green books for his customers. You know, somebody came in and said buddy, I'm thinking about taking a trip to Chicago. My dad would say, well, you do you know where to stop between here and Chicago and person would say, no say, well, hey, the green book will tell you. And he gave you a sense of of security, and so the green book came to cover listings in all fifty states and even some locations in Canada, the Caribbean and Mexico they printed about fifteen thousand copies year. Victor green had changed travel for thousands of African American tourists. He wrote in a nineteen fifty-six introduction to the guy. Now things are different the negro travelers depend on the green book for all the information. He wants this guy has made traveling more popular without encountering embarrassing situations. But as rates struggle continued some people begin to question, the value of the green book black people, many of them began to feel that this was accommodating to Jim crow. Susan ru is a professor of history at Brigham Young University. And she says that the green book began to seem a little out of step with the times it rarely took on an overtly political tone, especially in its early days, and there were actually other black travel guides published around the same time that did one called travel guide for instance, travel guide listed where the N W C P chapters were in each city, they were much more attuned with civil rights much, more political tone. Eventually the NWC p made it clear, and the N double ACP said what we're striving for we're striving for integration. And so that's their stand. In the end of lease EP built a lot of their push for the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act, which outlawed discrimination based on race and ended Jim crow around this idea of total integration. In fact, when the end the beliefs EP testified during the debate over the Bill they drew on all those letters they'd received about discrimination on the road. They appealed to that vision of the iconic family road trip of the freedom to explore America by car ROY Wilkins, the executive secretary of the end of beliefs EP spoke before the Senate Commerce Committee in nineteen sixty three as soon as congress gets out. They're all going to head into their station wagons and go back to their home district. It's July in Washington. It's really hot Wilkins us. The Senate to imagine what it might be like to travel as a black person. Would you like me to read what ROY Wilkins said? How far do you drive each day where and under what can? Additions, can you and your family eat where can they use a restroom can you stop driving after reasonable day behind the wheel or must you drive until you reach a city where relatives or friends will accommodate you and yours for the night will your children be denied a soft drink or an ice cream cone because they are not white threes appealing to them in the at the most basic level of their own love for their own family. And Susan thinks this may have been one of the things that helped pass the Bill by framing the narrative of civil rights as a family travel narrative, they were able to convince the senators to vote for the Bill. In nineteen sixty four president Lyndon Johnson signed the Bill into law. Congress passes the most weeping civil rights Bill ever to be written into the law. Conception of equality for all men that began with Lincoln and the civil war one hundred years ago, the negro won his freedom. He wins his dignity. The civil rights struggle was not over then. And it's still not over today. But for Victor green, it became clear at some point that his green book had a limited shelf life. He wrote in the introduction to one of his guys. There will be a day sometime in the future. This God will not have to be published that is when we as a race will have equal opportunities and privileges United States insure two years after the Civil Rights Act passed the green book published its last addition. So actually could you just describe where we are where the public library downtown central branch in Los Angeles. And we're down in the bowels for floors down underground in history genealogy department. You have a stack of books there in front of you. What are the they are green books? They're just little jewels. I mean, I just buzz with this kind of good energy that I just feel like oh my God. They're actually here. It's amazing. It's amazing. Condemn Taylor is a photographer and a cultural documentarian the guide she's holding her small maybe eight inches by five inches. They have green covers each with a different destination featured, and there are pages and pages of listings inside. There were beauty parlours. Barbershops Taylor's taverns were nightclubs. It was really a social network. It was anything you might want to do in that town and the resources that were available to you. Candidacy has been traveling the country documenting old green book locations from California to Oklahoma to New Mexico. Many establishments are now run by people who don't know much. If anything about the police's history, some of the buildings are gone, and what's left is just an empty lot. Or patch of grass, even these original copies of the guide are rare. Now, this Massoni and bought one at auction recently for twenty two thousand five hundred dollars. Wow. Yes. Look in your if you're listening in, you know, your parents live during Jim crow look in your addicts and see you might have a twenty plus thousand dollar guide. You you never know twenty thousand dollars is a lot of money but back in nineteen thirty six when the green book first appeared and could be purchased for twenty five cents by the travelers who needed it the most. It was arguably worth even more. Thanks to backstory with the American history. Guys for the recordings of the letters to the end up Lacey pe- read by Lisa Floyd, Stephen tolliver and Leslie telephone area, and I'll do play the part of the Victor green things also to Orlando kansallis at the national association of letter carriers in Jackie more at the National Alliance of postal in federal employees. 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He's dressed like top pocket square. Fedora added Jonty angle, she's got her hair done wave let curls her Sunday. Best hat the couple on the cover of the nineteen forty eight addition of the negro motorist rainbow. The very picture of particular kind of African American aspirated at mid century. In somewhere in those cases, or in her clutch or in the glovebox and the big old dash, the Pontiac Packard is a book slim paperback, thirty forty pages guide for African American travelers specifically for the lucky the rare few who owned. In there. They are on the cover this Hanson couple drawn in black and white walking off from their suburban home to look for America. Comforted by that guidebook published each year since nineteen thirty six by the Victor, e green company of Harlem in order to give it says, the negro traveler information that will keep him from running into difficulties embarrassments and other understatements. The couple will use it to navigate the post war pre highway United States to keep themselves safe in a live in their own car free from the cruelties of segregated public transportation of colored only waiting rooms backs of buses they'll be in the front seat of their own car. Their own gas pedal, their own steering wheel on the open road the radio. Searching for their their music. In the open air. It might catch voice. Come from the static the rhythm carried on invisible waves from some rooftop transmitter in Decatur Memphis in falling away, some skyline disappears in the rear view. And then coming in clear and strong now as they come out of the trees as the road rises through the alleghenies is around bend and the air is warranted. The windows warm on their arms in the light is warm in tangerine flashing in the service of the snake river with initiative Batna with the locks a hatchet driving off to. The grand Tetons. Liberty hall. The fear leaks Beale street painting desert in their own car. Somewhere. Right then Sal paradise in Demore yards. We're on the road somewhere wrote thing in adman was showing an executive a pitch that would put a car in every. Josh some auto company lobbyists was showing some Senator just where the freeways would run one day through which unwanted neighborhoods telling him how those freeways would free us all how we'd road. See the USA Chevrolet. Look for adventure in whatever comes our way. Away, Milwaukee the Minneapolis in four and a half hours coast to coast four and a half days nation transformed the people on the move. It's great cities. It's natural wonders it's amber waves, it's purple majesty all within reach. Unlimited possibilities the open road with a couple on the cover. Drove it then is the Sun Hung low as their stations. Started to fuss at the edges. The book said they could go to Oakland. Stay at the Warren hotel on sixth eat at the crescent in Frederick, Maryland. See the Grand Canyon get a drink at gills grill elizabethtown, but they shouldn't stop in Shelby Montana. There were no negroes there. They should probably say they're delivering the car to its white owners if they get pulled over outside Lafayette. Should steer clear of whole cities altogether. The son downtowns that were all white by law by nightfall? There will be a day the negro motorist book says in the near future when it won't have to be published. But until that time there was the book. And the couple there in its cover. As the sun goes down in the road stretches out in summer bugs flash white in the headlights in the signal fades probably out for good this time. And they hope the gas holds out to Pika. There's a place called powers the green book says can get service there. And then they should be able to make it to Wichita the packed food wouldn't have to risk stopping to eat. You might be better just to stand to Pika by the time. They get there. 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It would have been all the way back at shippensburg. The last time that you had ten carries in a game. John kuhn. Yeah. I think I might have had a couple ten carry games two thousand ten or two thousand eleven for Green Bay when we were decimated by some injuries that have position, but that was simply how to necessity not necessarily because the coaches wanted the den, right? So did you go through your whole career then being underutilized via gripe that you can put back on McCarthy or Sean Payton or your time at Pittsburgh that you were underutilized for all twelve years in in your NFL career? Are you kidding me chance? Not a chance. I got a couple of games of three touchdowns. I I mean, I have some really great memories from the fullback position. I have no complaints. All right because I'm curious on the Todd Gurley. I mean, there's a lot of conversation of ten carries for thirty five yards in the super. I got one complaint. Good. We we play we played in the Super Bowl the year. I just told you when we were decimated by injuries at the halfback -sition. I couldn't get one Kerry not one check down pass. I didn't touch the ball touch. The ball a lot that season. I didn't touch all in that game. The biggest game of the year. I didn't get touched the ball. Actually, we had a play called in the red zone for a run Aaron checked out audible and through touchdown pass. But a dog what he did that just himself he selfish. So you you then would be in the same category as Walter Payton win the fridge got a touchdown and Peyton didn't get one. I mean, that's you in the Packers Super Bowl win. But he got a Kerry he got a touch the ball. Wow. What did you do that weekly where you do eight your quarterback or your head coach that? Now. I don't I listen, I I have no qualms nothing. No complaints out of me. And Aaron carried us through that season. He he could have thrown ten touchdowns and that Super Bowl and took them all for me and not have been perfectly happy. I'm also we're going to we're going to talk with David box Yari one of your former mates offense of live. Keep calling him a mate is he from Australia that I don't know. I just. Trying to try to coin new phrasings. So I call James harden, Jimmy if you have a teammate, I'm gonna call him one of your mates. Okay. Yeah. It's just just me doing that stuff. Syncing overrun with it. Who asked him what he thinks about being called a mate one? I'll go teammates the rest of the way. I don't want to confuse Dade you. Call him. Dave. I call David Mr. Bahktiar, but you want you go on the short first name deal with him. He's he's got such a long name. Did you ever see his name when we're Kapadia? Yeah. It's it's really long. It's big nays a fairly interesting follow on Twitter as well. So David box Yari John Kuhn's former teammate with the Green Bay Packers. David Bach Yari still playing. He'll join us in about ten minutes time, also Mike decor, see of the sporting news. They tend network will join us at the top of the second hour of the program. Don, banks from the athletic dot com. Will join us top the third hour and Nick right from first things first FX one in the third hour of the program as well. I want to get your thoughts on this. Because this covers all different sports, John when we talk about there was a great deal of conversation. At the end of the NFL season about whether Aaron Rodgers should play after the Packers were eliminated now in a very similar conversation. Anthony Davis didn't get traded yesterday. We all know that Anthony Davis is not going to play in New Orleans a year from now. So they've got about twenty nine games remaining in the season. And there was conversation about Anthony Davis, and whether we should play it there's interest in both the franchise the New Orleans pelicans who have a commodity that has great value in the off season trade market, and there's interest from Anthony Davis who has great value in the off season. Once he's traded to re up a new max contract deal. I mean, this is a different it were in a different age. This didn't happen twenty five years ago. But it happens. Now, what how do you view players and organizations in determining that a player should or should not play? Well, there's an integrity factor. The NBA's dealing with here nets. That is soley. Why the pelicans are deciding to to play him to push him back out on floor. Now that the trade deadline has passed. And and he did not go anywhere. They didn't get the offers that they wanted with that being said, it's still a huge risk. You brought up the Aaron Rodgers situation at the end of the season. And he did get injured he suffered a concussion game of the season. And that is a that is a multiple. That's that's a second or third concussion now in the NFL, I'm concerned, I would be concerned that something happens to Anthony Davis. I would not play him. I would. And I'm sure we're going to see down the stretch. He's going to be limited. His time is going to take a couple kicks off each night. So by the end of the season, he's he's you know, barely playing and the backups are. I mean, that's what at least. That's what I would do you. Keep the integrity of the game going you you do what you have to do as an organization to keep the league off your back. But you have to you have to take care of your price possession. That's what he is. So what do they call an out load management you have load load management issues when you were playing in the league, again, you're if you're gonna hear to Anthony Davis, we're going to that's not gonna make for compelling radio. I get it. I get it. But I take I would take as many places they will give me because I only got about twenty game. So I wanted more plays. My load management was was off of game plan. And I think it's an MBA major league baseball conversation. But let me ask you this question because this is what was going on at the end of the NFL season. So I spent a fair amount of time. And a lot of people did talking about for teams that were no longer in the playoff chase talking about Aaron Rodgers and whether he should play one of the questions that always got brought up in a gun brought up from beat reporters. It got brought up from from other guests that that we would talk to in those moments is. How it plays in the locker room because other players in locker room say David box Yaris going out there. John Kuhn's going out there char back in the day. Charles Woodson's going out there to play Greg Jenny's going out there to play. But the quarterback not going out there to play. How does that play in the locker room if in that scenario, you can do this in any of the thirty two NFL markets if you're eliminated and your franchise quarterback gets set down for the final week or funnel two weeks of the season? How does it play with the teammates? Will we're going to have an opportunity to ask that question here in a few minutes joins the show. I can remember a few months ago they were trying to decide whether they play Aaron in the jets game which was the second to last game and David Bach TR who was coming off injuries. Well, did he plan to play? And they had just announced that Aaron was going to play. And he said his long as my quarterbacks out there. I'm out there. So that that right there pretty much answers your question in the form of a statement. He saying if he's going to go. Out there and play. I'm sure as heck gonna go out there and play. Now, if you wasn't if he wasn't going out there to play that's the that's the hypothetical. We gotta throw deja on here. David would you play on security detail where the quarterback is concerned? I like, he's the secret service. He's walking with with the president Aaron Rodgers and making sure play affairs plan Barron's not is he going to. That's that's the question. We're gonna throw out there in a couple of minutes when he joins us. I mean, so some people brought up there would be resentment that that just doesn't work in the locker room if they're special treatment, but shoot you played in the league for twelve years their special treatment all the two at all levels their special treatment at shippensburg their special treatment on your high school program. Not everybody is ever treated the same. We're not concerned about special treatment. We get who who the the silver spoon guys are and and we're perfectly fine with most guys understanding the role and the guys that don't understand the role the guys that don't know where they stand. A pecking order those are usually the guys that make a stink and get shipped off. They're the guys that are out of there. And and it you know, you see that around the league from time to time. But I never really had that problem. I knew where I stood and I-. Shoveled the you know, what to just to just to keep my line just to keep a couple of spaces from the end of the line for me. And so who had to shovel more you or a guy like box Yari or or anybody else owning offense of line who had a shovel in their hand. More often. Well, that's a tough question. It depends on what kind of stuff you're shoveling. I mean, the office of line they got a tough job. Because anytime the quarterback gets hit it. It's a direct. It's a direct lie everybody. I looks at that. Who who let that guy hit him who let him hit him. But sometimes it's not the lines fault. So I mean, they gotta deal with a lot of criticism. They gotta deal with a lot of stuff. And it's that's a tough tough position when but you get paid for it. I mean to be a left tackle in the league. You get you get paid, and you're paid pretty handsomely. So I'm sure they take that risk. It's interesting to it'll be interesting to visit with David box Yari is gonna join us in a few minutes. And I want to cover some some other ground with him and talking about not only the things that we just talking about where we're is playing or not but also accountability which David boxer. I thought was lacking late in the Mike McCarthy tenure in Green Bay. And now a new. Head coach Green Bay. So visit with David on that also want to get his ideas on being competitive. I thought it was really interesting to listen to Jordan speed on the Dan Patrick show earlier today speech studied ES com. Brady on the golf course at Augusta and that when speak had a two-shot turn around on the last hole there planet to main game to beat Brady Brady didn't talk for thirty minutes. Now, I'm curious. I mean that is a human tally junk Coon, it's a bacteria mentality. It's certainly Aaron Rodgers mentality. It's a pro athletes mentality to compete at such a high level that you want to win at everything. But I want to get where that ranks where you guys are concerned. We'll talk with Bakari about that too. He'll join us in a couple of minutes. We'll talk with David box Yari of the Green Bay Packers. He will join us when we come back alongside of John Kuhn. I'm Mike Keller. And this is the rich Eisen show. Every car comes with its share of stories that ding in your bumper. When you nervously picked up your first date the luxury package, you got after a big promotion or the mileage you saved by riding your bike all summer while you can't put a price tag on your stories now with truecar you can at least find out what your car's worth when it's time to sell or trade it in just go to truecar simply enter your license plate number and watch. How your car's details? 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Switching to gyco is a no brainer pity in most nesting Dollond lot in life. I think I'm not positive of this. But I think that music is direct off the playlist of our next guest. We continue on the richeisenshow. I'm joined by NFL veteran now retired NFL running back, John Poon. And we welcome in one at John's former teammates from the Green Bay Packers who still active as far as I understand it. David vox, Yari. Hi, david. How are you? Good. What are you is? This was that music off your playlist, like if you're if you're wearing your beats in the locker room getting ready for game is this is this what's plan. Don't think so let. And they're not allowed beats in the locker room. They gotta wear Bove's. Oh, so it's product product specific. Okay. All right. So what is what is on your playlist? If you're wearing your bows out. Do you wear your bows out for warm ups at all, what's what do you got cranking? If you're doing that. I'm not much of a field guy in both up field. But I'm the locker room. Definitely gotta look Nimmo bombo one once or twice. Okay. All right. And was do you have control of locker room music? If for what's playing over the speakers. I mean you've earned that having you now in your time in Green Bay. Eight more free reign. I mean, how the locker rooms that have John those. They put a all the big fatty on the foreign usually too lazy to kinda walk all the way over to change music. And then you just have a locker room set up. Eventually it's gonna get changes again. So only ever so often when we kinda wanna really rock out, or you know, kinda wanna change some country really adds them character in the locker room. That's one we'll we'll conjure up enough energy. And what happens when you that country on their what what's the dynamic lake in the locker room when he do that. Dave, I'll tell you what our side locker probably gets loud of the if ever been that's for sure. Well, let's gears a little bit. I wanna I wanna ask you real quick. What are what are your thoughts about the Pro Bowl now because for the second year in a row you've turned down your opportunity to go? What is your thoughts? Oh god. You don't have to question. I'm a little different. I mean, I think it's great. But I'm still really think it's very necessary. And I don't think it means much that you to back in the day. And I think we need to a better job of finding a way to, you know, fold its validity. When you say because I feel like now there's a lot of guys option together, whereas before used to be just a few in the elite. Because you are now a three time all pro. And and but you only have that one visit to the Pro Bowl looking long term that is this something that you your word. Maybe you want to build your resume for for a Packer hall of fame. NFL hall of fame something to that nature. Now that you have, you know, distinguished yourself as a top five tackling the league for a good period of time is is long-term on your mind at all. For me. I my goal is to keep stacking all pros. That's the only way I can control that outcome. But I mean with that that comes taking a year-by-year month-by-month week by week day by day. So. That's kind of been my mindset. It's very player speak there. I mean, that's right out of the Coon doing locker room interview. Handbook just taking it day by day. I wanna contribute. Be a good part of the team. Be a good teammate next question. This the Green Bay. John the very well. Just not. Many years greenbacks pick up after. So let me ask you this. We're watching what's going. I know you're in California. But you're not a Pebble Beach because Lyman don't get to play him. Pro ams. Is that fair fullbacks in loan? Never get to play him pro-ams or go play at Augusta. Am I right on this? Fortunately, not. But I mean, I'm also not even close to being allowed to partake guy like Brian Balogh. John those. Yeah. Yeah. I don't understand how you didn't get the opportunity that guy got to place them. But so my guess is that because you want to Colorado you're closer to frisbee golf than actual real Gulf. Would that be fair to say? You were getting golf at the end there. I officially become bad ago. Became bad. I think. Right. Respectable. Anybody wanna be around anyone? But I played now. I'm like I can say I'm bad golfing moved on you've gotten bed. Yeah. So now, I'm officially back. So you're not golfing off season. What do you do right now? January February you're used to play deep into January. What are you doing? Now. Last that actually have taken the full myself. We never made the playoffs of it might be my first time ever went to Europe. I did that last year and then this year, I just wanna go explore. So I went to stralia New Zealand. Also, we use a mate we had this conversation. You want to John's former mates before? And then he like what is David Australian. It's that I'm not aware of. But you you are. So you you went right. Yeah. I went there for eight days, my girlfriend, we went out there. My brother actually works out there. So and had a somewhat of a local kind of shows around Sydney. She's nice. That's awesome. Let's let's jump into a little and fell talk. We were talking John. And I in the last segment about some of the decisions I'm going to relate this to an MBA story. Anthony Davis didn't get traded yesterday by the New Orleans pelicans. Now, he's in a position where he's going to be dealt in the off seasons on New Orleans was considering whether or not they wanted to play him. He's considering whether or not he wants to play. Let me relate it to your store that you're more familiar with in the NFL the Packers were eliminated with two games remaining in the regular season. Aaron Rodgers playing through an injury throughout the year. And there was decisions that needed to be made business decisions by the club. And maybe the player to decide whether to play or not the decision was made to play him. How does that work in the locker room? Let's say they decided not to play him. Is that okay? How does it work? If you're the linemen that's a signed what protecting that quarterback. I mean at the end of day, everyone got their own job responsibility jobs. Protect the quarterback. And you know, that's above my pay grade to decide which quarterbacks out there. But if they tell me that I'm going out there. I mean, I I have pay me to go out there and give a good product. And that's my job. And I don't wanna go out there and various myself either. Well, I mean to me the the question that kept the rising was how does it play in the locker room is there resentment if somebody is held out of playing and your playing you guys you and John can you've you've walked the walk you live the life. The the rest of us who live from the outside in don't so in the locker room does that or can that become an issue? Servile talking if narrative, and that's it's not what happened. So I can speculate potentially could have potentially. Sure. But that's not what happened that we had to go through. And it's not at all we extensive. Okay. Dave. I'm glad you brought that up you're talking to count ability. Now, you've also made some comments recently about the accountability. Just might not have been there last year. What was the feeling going into the start of the season? And how did that change for the second half of the season? And maybe explain the accountability aspect in and how that played a role. I mean, I mean, as you know, John, you'll be an agreement you go and every year with one going by world championship. You know? The wasn't that. Well, to be honest as everyone knows the record shows that and you know, when the seasons aren't going so well, the losses starts backing up. Never fun time to be in the locker room or in meetings that kind of a little bit more on edge. Just kinda was the whole idea at least for me. I keep trying to chop wood eventually is gonna fall, but you know, in this instance, this was a tree that was pretty sturdy. And unfortunately, you know, kinda ran its course and we had to. You know, do a complete overhaul. There's a lot of changes looming incoming and Green Bay, you know, I obviously obvious step was the new GM moving, and then just kind of things you can see the wheels beginning to turn of everything changing. These you could see these changes coming from afar, you knew these changes. We're going to be made before they happen. I wouldn't say new before. But. I mean when you when you have a new GM and. You know, your coach has two more years left on deal, and you don't have good year. And then obviously, you know in this day and age it's much as hard as the block outside noise. You're always be able to hear it because our social media and how invested is in infiltrated. It can be in the locker room. You kinda read you hear stuff. And and honestly, you get breaking news happens outside than it does inside. You know, I hear about news through social media quicker than I hear through the actual sources in our own home base. Would you be Green Bay? So, you know, things like that happening kind of get an idea. Okay. So the changes are made you got a new head coach. You got a new coaching staff for all intents and purposes, you've talked to your new head coach with what what's got you excited after that conversation. You know, I I don't I haven't really had much of conversation. I've had one phone call give let's say about ten minutes and about the first three minutes of that. I thought it was a prank phone call. So. But I mean, you know, young kind of something new. And it's you know, he kind of is. Spark in hopefully, that spark you turn to a big flame. And through the coaches have been able to build and you know, bunch of guys being excited, especially hearing. No, I've chatted with Aaron. He's excited about him. He, you know, kinda gave his job approval that means a lot to make us dependent. It's when he's to give it, and you know, when he goes on that means these diligent than, you know, more times than not it's pretty smart guy ends up the right? David boxy are joining us on the rich Eisen show, my color, John Kuhn with you filling in for rich today all next week. So let me ask you about checking out when the season ends. Are you a football fan to you watch the postseason? Do you watch the Super Bowl do pay attention, some some checkout some are into it? What is David Bach DRA? I didn't do it. But I wouldn't say I necessarily watched. I was the traveling. I said through Australia New Zealand, so. He really get a few games. But I was kind of want to, you know, keep up of I want to see what would happen. So I heard some great things happening saints game that I wasn't able to see I had to wait like the clips social media, which I told you pretty good at what they do. And then I did actually watch that game actually watched. Did you enjoy it? I I like a lot of people say it was boring, blah, blah. You know, I'm sorry that you know, everyone wants to see fifty fifty plus points scored weekend week out. I enjoyed good sense of games. It was like watching someone play chess checks. Yeah. I I think it's a different question. Between is a good game. Or an entertaining game. I think the I mean, there's one hundred million people that watch the Super Bowl that's the official number imagine. It's higher than that. But if you get to that number there's going to a lot of people come into the game, you know, just for that moment because it's the Super Bowl, maybe they weren't entertained, but football people were entertained, but I gotta ask you this question too. Because all right. So so I see John and John looks like he could go back out and play right now. What's your playing weight? Dave. Fluctuate between about retention three. Fifteen three ten three fifteen now. What do you think you'll be three years after you retire? Will you be one of those guys that slims down into? Wow. You you play in the NFL. You're only like two fifty or will you stay there? I mean, what do you think? Well, I hope to be lighter. I think I think with my body type and just got I've always been a guy had a had to fight to keep on. Wait. I think probably level out between two forty to sixty when I'm done because I can go ahead. I can tell you. I've been a year out now. And I I said the same thing. Oh, I'm going to lose thirty forty pounds. It's going to go quick. I don't do anything crate you. You can't eat. You gotta start your whole life. Know what it's like, we don't know what it's like to eat like normal human beings. Now. Dave the line dinners Thursday night. No more of that, buddy. You're not going in deep on the Tomahawk steak, and and a double order, mashed potatoes and stuff like that that it's up serious life change. It's it's it's crazy. Some kale basic. Yeah. I mean, you're in California, you can get on that California. I'll. Jab all the people gal. Well, I was always good about his diet though. I was always good. Well, I I see Joe Thomas every now, and then and Joe said one of the things that he struggled with it. You talk about trying to keep weight on obviously ofensive lime defensive lineman. You have to keep you have to keep at a certain amount of weight strength is one thing wait in a nurse's and other. But one of the things Joe talked about is that he struggled having to always eat, and the way you how often you had to eat and how much yet eat any look forward to when his playing days were done. So he could eat when he wanted to not to eat on a schedule. Is that? Now, you you you're different positions. John you're done, David. You've got years left. So how does that work for you? David is he eating sometimes issue? Yeah. I mean, I'd like to say that that you know, as you're talking about Joe Tom's. You've got sounds like mine like there's times where I I'm not hungry. I don't want to eat like, I know I have to or I I know like, and you need just get a bunch of calories in my body because I skipped a meal. I know that ADA that wasn't enough. So from that isn't. Yeah. I definitely relate to eating when you're not hungry or you just don't flat out want to you know, I can't tell you. I've been nighttime protein shakes. At least eight plus years. Dave I wanna cycle back to the team on one for one more question. How how quick do you think this team can turn it around? How fast can we expect the Green Bay Packers to look like the vintage Packers? The last twenty five years ten twelve wins making a playoff run. On me. I think it's how quick we can. Get a custom in to get accustomed to show leflore. You know 'cause over Tanny pretty much same defense defense did. Well last year, you know, kept saying games helped us beat the petted and games. And then offense of leave. You know, it's just I think we have all the pieces we have players it's just going out and having showing and doing what, you know floors often wants to do, and I think that can put up some points. I don't see much of a of a lapse in time for us to be contending. Is this going to be your first playbook change in the NFL? It is it is are you are you concerned at all with how that might go. I didn't joy, you know, the my first six years of having the playbook in during ta that kinda just you know, you go through install one does off. Been versus the same offense for five years now. Part of accountability. A moment has John I don't know if you're in all the same meetings. But did either of you ever actually does off in a meeting and get caught? I'm not talking about leaping. Right. I'm talking just kind of staring through and not really thinking because he's talking about the same. You know, weak side inside or outside done runs. You've done for, you know, five years, maybe Rex gel over just just trying to clarify. So you haven't slept in a meeting. No. I don't John says. You have the last time. I if we've been meeting was college my freshman year when I wasn't playing rhetoric freshmen redshirt year anytime coach ourselves of the youngest album skip over this later. I never saw myself Abba plan. We'll get catch on Cleveland six thirty AM. So there were no coaches in Green Bay when they got up there and started talking in front of the room. There was not one coach that ever. Just just did it to you put you to sleep. He had one of those book reading voices. Honestly. No. I mean, I'm a I have ADHD and get a little bit of copying. I'm wired. I don't like map. So now, I mean, I have I seen people. Sure. Plenty through my time in college in the pros. Absolutely. It sounds you'll like head Bob all Elmo kinda funny. I just aired him in the venture we make contact. John it sounded to me that you were admitting that maybe there was a time where you had fallen asleep in a meeting. I don't have HD. So there was a couple coaches that used to get Tom Clements used to do it for me, man. He was he like. Like, he he had that bear here that Barry white Voisey would just get up and talk like this. And you would just kind of keep it row. Slow roll easy time playbook go it would that was the entire install that was the entire instal. Sometimes be twenty minutes. Are you kidding me? How do you expect us to wait there in that Tom's my guy he knows I love them too. Yeah. It doesn't have a model town when it comes to anytime. He got got definitely remember that even even at halftime when you wanna get roundup kinda still at the same Fitch less thought David TR joining us on the rich Eisen show. You've already traveled down under in this off season. Which you said was one of your goals, if there was going to be a time where you weren't in the postseason, and and this year, you weren't that you went ahead did that. So before you jump back full in all out, which is still you know with TA's and then many camps and before training camp. What else does David box Yari want to do? What's on your list before you get going full again? I mean, I'm pretty much I've done everything for for miles. I mean, I when I was in New Zealand I jumped off a did some bungee jumping off bridges. I it swings. And canyon the mandate all of the stuff that could, you know, have everyone freaking out telling me, I shouldn't do you social media. 'cause like everyone feels like they're intelligent opinion. And like my parents. But now, I mean, I'm I'm pretty much. I'm excited to get ready to go down and start training again them, and I got the kind of fire I needed after being away for so long. So. I've had my soupy and a thrill seeker being thrill secretive, Patrick, Mahomes, just got the shutdown. He can't even play basketball. But you can go out and bungy jump and swing from cliffs. Have you gotten any phone calls from the Packers saying, hey, you need to shut this down? I mean. I'm not going to say, I'm nobody. But you know, if one to be a franchise quarterback, it's nothing to be just a bodyguard for the franchise quarterback. Bodyguard. I think they trust. They've seen the kind of abuse. I've taken throughout the years on football. He's pretty tough. You can probably good stuff. Hey, David, thanks for spending a little time with us enjoyed the the rest of your short off season. And we'll see back in Green Bay in the spring mattress on John Chan with you men always. Two. He got a good on you at the end to that's David box. Yari offensive tackle old pro number at times Pro Bowl before we break you play in a Pro Bowl, John. Yeah. I listen. I was taking my chance if I got into. Right. I mean was that. I got I got lucky. I got the Hawaii traits that different deal when they bring it Orlando as opposed to bring you to Honolulu. I think people would go to the Pro Bowl in Honolulu because he got a free trip out of it yet through this sprinkle some sprinkle some dust on the, you know, some some stuff out there for these guys to go. I mean, it's I feel bad saying it because I gotta take my kids to DisneyWorld and they love Disney road but Orlando compared to to hunt Lulu, it's not even that's not comparable. There was some entertainment last night in the NBA after all the madness that went into the trade deadline. There was a little entertainment where the NBA all star game draft was considerable touch on that alongside John Kuhn. I Mike how this is the rich Eisen show. Okay. This is a thirty second commercial. And I'm gonna throw a lot of numbers that you. But please stay with me. 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So because they don't want the that player on their team. It was a it was a money dump in some cases. So there will be players who will be signing with with clubs over the next few days. One of the things that happened last night after all of the madness with the NBA trade deadline and part of the conversation all week long have been about LeBron James and the LA Lakers and the desire to get Anthony Davis from the New Orleans pelicans, which obviously we all know did not happen last night. They had the NBA all star draft. They did it a year ago. And last year the the captains were were different Steph curry was at step in LeBron year ago. Yeah, it was LeBron was in the east. It wasn't televised last night. They televised it on TNT the great Ernie Johnson hosting that. And it was LeBron James and Yana said combos team captains. And this is what LeBron James did after they got done with starters with my first pick in a second round of all with Anthony Davis assure you want him to be your team mate. I know. Very sure of that. That temporary. Shots. And you're okay. Does not imply on all. That's that's really good. And it's it was fun to see a little bit of that. We to see Janas his humor play its way out a little bit. And john. It's one of the things that we don't get often enough. I think at some level is with our other sports. We don't get the C some of the humorous interactions unless somebody's miked up on the sideline concept. And and I thought that played well last night for the NBA. I thought it did too. It makes these guys look super relatable. And we asked the question yesterday is there tampering guys bring guys along. Do they want their buddies? Do they want their other opponents around the league to comply with them and build these super teams it shows right there? It is out in the open. This is happening daily and bye bye. Bye. Who LeBron picked for his team? And he specifically pick all free guys that can opt out. I mean, he gave him. Self. He basically gave himself an all star team that he can do for a weekend and try to entice any and all people willing to come to the Lakers being in. And I get it. I think it plays more in that sport than it does in any other on that that recruitment if for potential free agency, you mentioned on the show yesterday that it happens in the NFL too. I just I don't know if it's as pervasive as it is in the NBA smaller rosters, more humanized, and it used to be I don't know when it started with you in the league with the conversations with the posing players both before and after games were you a player that could talk with somebody on the other team before game started. Yeah. I would I would go up and I talked to a few guys before the game would start. But but usually you, but they would have to be somebody that I have a history with somebody. I played with another team somebody that maybe I trained with and. Off season somebody that I have a personal connection with now after the game. That's when you can talk to anybody in the NFL, I would go up and most important fullbacks always find a fullback on the other team. And you gotta give them an old slap on the back of the only one they're getting for the game. There's only seven of the end the entire league. So so when you see one on the other team, you give him a slap on the back because you know, it's it's been a hard day for him. And you're the only person going to do it other than his wife. And then you find. Each other for four quarters for sixty minutes. We didn't like each other. But what? Now, I'm gonna I'm gonna let you know. I'm a good person, and you are too. So good luck. The rest of the year fullbacks can play linebacker, right? I mean, you could couldn't play the other side. I could've played some spots. I could've filled a whole I so I don't know if I'm covering titan seem route. But. I friend who used to say you really messed up playing playing fullback you should've played linebacker in the league. I said you gotta be fast now. Run a fullbacks forty in play linebacker in the NFL anymore. It's just not happening. But only got a couple of minutes left in this hour. Mike Coursey of the sporting news. The big ten network will join us off the top of our number two of the program. Let me just ask this before we get to the end of this hour a week ago in Wisconsin, the wind chill temperatures got to fifty five degrees below zero the air. Temperature was thirty below. I pump gas one of the days last week when it was that cold. And the only thing I could think of was you guys playing in in that kind of weather and you did against the New York Giants in NFC championship game. The Packers back the in Brett farve last game as a Green Bay Packer to me that that whole concept of cold that cold weather when it's below zero air is just ridiculous. I mean you played in it. Yeah. Deep-freeze that Arctic blast that that you get from time to time. It's it is cold and especially in mid west his brutal code. But when you play you find ways to to psych yourself up to get yourself going. There's probably only about three or four games in my thirteen year career that I can point at and say that affected my play usually the cold. It's just doesn't affect you. You find ways to get through at your professional. I mean, it's it's just a it's just a different. It's just a different beast, and you know, they got through sidelines heated up. Now, you got the blasters. I've melted a helmet before trying to keep the winning. So just stuck in front of the heater and just popped all the air out of it. And just and it melted. And it wasn't until after the game that our trainer came up and say, hey, did you know, your home? It's broken play. Yeah. Player safety that broken helmet. Explain something John. What am I this speech today wrong? I wasn't wasn't intimating anything along those lines. I didn't call you a mate you didn't Mike. The course he will. Join us top of the second hour of the program. We'll visit with Don banks of the dot com. Top third hour, and then Nick right from first things first on Fox Sports one. He will join us in the third hour of the program going to be a really interesting college basketball. We can that's what we're going to talk to Mike Coursey about their great matchups including Duke, Virginia, Villanova Marquette, Michigan Wisconsin all coming up this weekend. 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