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"great lakes" Discussed on Weather Geeks

Weather Geeks

06:05 min | 3 d ago

"great lakes" Discussed on Weather Geeks

"Also other phosphorus. Things you know that the all the people moving closer closer to the lakes and so yes they are in. Then it's weather driven light wind and heat Supports them so if you get a stagnant upper level dome of high pressure not much weather. Say at drought pattern. That son is beating down and the algae loves to bloom ended. Explodes it to the point that you know want out of three years. Now you can look at a satellite picture of lake erie and see a large green gooey. Mass of very similar to the lake okeechobee. Thing in the impossible red tide causes in florida. You know and so they're they're trying to really evaluate it. Try to forecast and try to minimize. The i work with a lot of farmers and farmer is a scapegoat allowed in this but a farmer does not waste fertilizer because fertilizer costs money to help make providence so so they put the right amount on but then you get a five inch in a warmer. Atmosphere is one thing that we should talk about is at the warmth has shown an increased one inch rain days in the state of michigan for is as you go north The up now is having four more one inch rain days per per year than they did say twenty years ago you get these heavy rains heavy runoff and then it gets into the great eventually. Yeah and you mentioned satellite images showing these gooey green blobs and other thing we see on the great lakes with satellite images as ice cover. What are what are you noticing about in ice covering sort of seasonality of isis made by cold and it. The winters are trending warmer. So if you average You know again. We got a lot of variations from year to year. But if you average it over time the great lakes ice cover is being reduced. You know i like to use a You know like a five year. Moving average You know to see the differences because then again two thousand twelve. We had near record ice cover in. That's real hard for folks to grasp. Wait a minute everybody's telling us. The globe is warming mean and we just had a winter that we had since nineteen seventy six. We must cancel this whole plan. You know in no. It's just a quirky thing. The other thing that. I have a hard time getting across. Is that You remember the lot of lamp ho. Yeah yeah one of the mall the other day actually back turn it on and the and the red blob starts going on parade and then it gets top in breaks apart in. It's going in the cycle. And then all of a sudden one of the blobs coming up hits another blob coming down just wrong in it disrupts the whole cycle for a while and then it gets going again in. That's what we're seeing in. The great lakes is that as the polar region is warming are march and april's are actually getting colder. While our summers are getting a little bit warmer are falls have gotten vastly warmer are falls our incredible And if you ever want to go the great lakes. I tell people if you wanna summer vacation. First week of august in michigan or about the last week or first week last week of september first week in october just you know then you get the fall field for it and the winters are getting warmer also a. Here's a good example. I work with farmers when i moved to the saginaw area. I'm a big gardener. I said hey. I'm from across the lake. Frost different winners. I averaged frost. I know here in the saginaw area. They told me. September twenty six was about you know last week of september about for seventy frost now last five years. We haven't had a frost in saginaw area before october. Fifteenth are hard freeze used to be about mid october. We've gone the last few years almost to thanksgiving before. We've had a hard freeze types of things. And i think really can resonate with people that may be still have some scalp skepticism about climate change. Just look at things like what you were just talking about. I'm a gardener as well vegetable garden and dealing with that right now here as we tape this. In the last day of march i've already started some seedlings but we're about to have thirty degree temperature tomorrow night as a strong cold front barreling through today But in general are sort of last date for the freeze essentially has been creeping back into sort of march and so forth whereas probably was in april before his great for his great down here in the south and for those of us that garden but certainly some bigger problems mark. This has been a mate. Mazing conversation and i gotta give a shout for being the first ever weather geeks to talk about lava lamps on the podcast. So big out to you on that but before we go. Let me see my geek of the week. This time the geek of the week. We like to highlight assigned to superstar a great geologists or a weather weenie at the end of every podcast. This episode geek of the week is natalie allen. Natalie is a middle school student in colorado is very interested in weather and watches the weather channel daily. She is even presented a weather report on tv as a kid caster. Hey natalie keep that up. But i was that age too and we hope that you on tv one day. If you or someone you know. It'd be a deserving candidate of our geek of the week. Be sure to follow our social media pages martin even an amazing guest. Thank you so much. Where can people follow you on twitter or social.

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"great lakes" Discussed on Weather Geeks

Weather Geeks

03:47 min | 3 d ago

"great lakes" Discussed on Weather Geeks

"Some lakes gained as much as five hundred billion billion gallons in that short span. What do you attribute that to That been that particular event heavy precipitation at willie was rain. Yes it was one of the in you know at that same time we may have the snow melt coming into it also but If i remember correctly in that situation we had just a very large storm system that encompassed most of say one drainage basin say michigan here on drainage basin you know and it sends the lake up again so just remember you know one inch. Water is eight hundred billion gallons. That sounds like a lot. But when you get one inch of water over all of wisconsin all of michigan all ontario you're talking trillion gallons of water in a couple of days time. The amount of water in the atmosphere is just mind boggling. Then we gotta get into. Climate is changing now. Just about the go there. Because i wanted to know if you're seeing any trends in sort of in intensity of these water level changes are definitely well. The thing on the water levels is where where where an increased climate change still museum meteorologist. I wanna call a global warming because that's generally what is happening in. I know the public has a real hard time with michigan april turning colder as a global warming. But it. let's just get it back to the globe is warming. And we know as meteorologist what is energy in what does energy turn into the atmosphere. It turns into precipitation. Allow cloth clapper on relationship as we have water more or warmer temperatures. There's a capacity for more water vapor in the atmosphere and that becomes he fall. I i forget that because it was a neat. He's but. I don't think you know. I'm just stayed basic business explaining exactly what you just said. Yes so but also as we warm up and it doesn't rain. Evaporation goes up quickly so for me. What climate change is doing in the great lakes is until eighty of the water level. So you know. If we have an historic average water level and maybe a fluctuation over the course of a decade or two of a foot above and below that. Now we're seeing you know. The classic example is two thousand twelve. We were four feet below the average and record levels in now last year we were four feet above and in the rainfall two thousand eighteen to two thousand and twenty rainfall and heavy snowfall winters by the way last ten fifteen. The great lakes more heavier than normal precipitation. Whether it's rain or snow we had the fastest rise ever the in recorded history back to nineteen eighteen primary. Get into some pearce. They say well you know ten thousand years ago. The great lakes were you know. It's fifty feet higher and a hundred thousand years ago. It was all dried up. Yes it was but we don't live in ten thousand time periods. We live in fifty and one hundred year time periods and so we'll see more volatility will see more up more down with put a lot more people on the water deepal ham or money. Now they want to move to the great.

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Expect low ice years on Lake Superior to continue

Climate Cast

01:30 min | 2 weeks ago

Expect low ice years on Lake Superior to continue

"Little to no ice floating along marquette bay noah reported january's total ice coverage in the great lakes to be the lowest in the last forty eight years lake superior. Ice cover briefly grew to fifty percent during our february arctic outbreak but that fleeting is vanished just as quickly with our mild march. I'm npr chief. Meteorologist paul hutton. And today on climate cast. What are longer term lake superior ice trends telling us about climate change in the upper midwest professor j austin researchers all things lake superior with the large lakes observatory at the university of minnesota duluth high. Welcome back to climate cast. Thanks for having me on paul. Let's start with this past winter. What was notable with ice cover on lake superior It was a really unusual year very low ice covered starch and we had that remarkable cold air in february and we ended up with fleetingly above average ice levels superior and just as remarkably. They went away really quickly. And how does this fit with the longer term ice trends that you're seeing on lake superior and the great lakes. I expect that we're going to see Significantly lower than average ice cover this year and basically since about nineteen ninety eight. We've had a long string of relatively low ice cover on lake superior with some exceptions like like the polar vortex in twenty fourteen where we had nearly complete coverage for two months.

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Extreme weather is driving up costs for MN homeowners

Climate Cast

01:33 min | 3 weeks ago

Extreme weather is driving up costs for MN homeowners

"Climate change in minnesota costing you. Let's ask mark colder. He's the vice president of public affairs at the insurance federation of minnesota. I'm mark welcome to climate cast. Hi paul thank you very much for having us on and talking about this important topic what trends are insurers seeing for billion dollar weather disasters in minnesota over the past couple of decades up until nineteen ninety eight we had decades of stability and in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight. We had three significant storms including one on may thirtieth that was part of the southern great lakes to ratio. That storm cost nine hundred million dollars in insured losses and those three storms together in one thousand nine hundred cost one point five billion dollars and that's important because that one point five billion dollars in losses is more than the previous forty years combined and since then as you just noted it really hasn't stopped so this is almost becoming an annual thing. Isn't it it is. It's about every other year. We see and just in two thousand seventeen on june eleventh. There was a large hail storm. It was a very brief storm. Only about a half hour or so. It hit the northwest suburbs of the twin cities brooklyn park and coon rapids. It seemed like it was a minor thing that ended up being three point. Two billion dollar insured losses catastrophe. It was the most expensive storm in state history and the tenth most expensive storm in the world that year and so when these storms happen know the insurers pay for it when the insurance pay for it that means policyholders pay for it

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Chicago aquarium pushes restaurants to reduce plastic use

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00:26 sec | Last month

Chicago aquarium pushes restaurants to reduce plastic use

"Chicago's Shedd Aquarium has launched a program encouraging restaurants to reduce the use of plastic to take part restaurants have to commit to a study. They're plastic use and seek alternatives when possible, For example, they could offer to go plastic cutlery by request. Only the aquarium will provide training in tips, Experts say. An estimated £22 million of plastic enters the Great Lake each year. Half of which enters Lake Michigan.

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Chicago aquarium pushes restaurants to reduce plastic use

WGN Programming

00:25 sec | Last month

Chicago aquarium pushes restaurants to reduce plastic use

"That aquariums launched a program encouraging restaurants to reduce the use of plastic to take part. Restaurants have to commit to steady their plastic use and seek alternatives when possible, For example, they could offer to go plastic cutlery. By request, the aquarium will provide training and tips, experts say. An estimated £22 million of plastic enters a great lakes each year, half of which enters Lake

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Chicago aquarium pushes restaurants to reduce plastic use

WGN Programming

00:27 sec | Last month

Chicago aquarium pushes restaurants to reduce plastic use

"Launched program encouraging restaurants to reduce the use of plastic to take part. Restaurants have to commit to steady their plastic use and seek alternatives when possible, For example, they could offer to go plastic cutlery. By request, the aquarium will provide training and tips, experts say. An estimated £22 million of plastic enters a great lakes each Year, half of which enters Lake Michigan. Steve Roxton, WGN news of

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First-Ever Wind Chill Warning Issued For North Texas

Eric Harley and Gary McNamara

00:39 sec | 2 months ago

First-Ever Wind Chill Warning Issued For North Texas

"Winter weather is clobbering parts of the U. S in portions of Texas the coldest there they've seen in over 30 years, so he had winter really settling in across the country. It's not just the cold. Temperatures is those winter storm watches and warnings where we're seeing the entire state of Texas. That almost never happens running you all the way up into the Great Lakes, the Ohio River Valley Dallas, seeing some of that snow out in front of it a little bit of ice as the system's gonna be sweeping on through the area. Now, this is going to lift up to the north into the East, the heaviest snow now in the Mississippi Valley, it continues to lift its way up towards Cleveland. The Great Lakes, Fox's Adam Clots says. By Monday, the bitter cold air over the northern Plains will plunge into Texas. And is expected to bring wind chills below zero.

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RADCast Outdoors Episode #37: Al Lindner Discusses Faith, Family and Fishing - burst 01

RADCast Outdoors

1:05:47 hr | 2 months ago

RADCast Outdoors Episode #37: Al Lindner Discusses Faith, Family and Fishing - burst 01

"On this episode of red cast outdoors we sit down with legendary fishermen of famer and co founder of in fisherman lindy equipment co owner of lender media. Al lindor course. Everybody knows al from his days on in fisherman and has seen him on a number of different tv shows including the angling edge and on this episode of rod cast outdoors. We sit down. We visit with him about a number of different topics including fishing family. Fame his faith and of course. What are his favorite things to fish for to this day. We hope you'll sit down. Relax and enjoy this episode of raw cast outdoors. Sean rad cast is on hunting fishing and everything in between this is red cast outdoor from the borders ten cast studio here david merrill and patrick edwards again outlets gay debut on the program. I do wanna a quick shout out the ending curdle cousin for helping. Set this up with al this kind of a big deal. thanks dante. yeah so really. Appreciate danny and I'll just want to welcome you to the shell. Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to hang out with this on a podcast for a little bit and looking forward to nothing makes me happier than a cold in minnesota. If i can't be out fishing. I should be talking about the. It'd be well below zero tonight. So that's probably one of the big motivations for patrick and i to start this podcast. We both have young families. And we're both avidly into the outdoors whether it's fishing hunting or of both. So that's our goal is to You know recruit new new anglers and new hunters to the to the outdoors around. The timing is really appropriate for unit. We've got a whole new. Recruitment a coming in because the cold or sport is never seen before experience in the outdoors and they need our need some guidance. in cases do you know respect the resource in S an important part of what's happening now with these whole. Nobody's covering it. Yeah it's it's been fun to watch you over the years. 'cause you you've really helped kind of teach everybody about that and i know as a kid. I always look forward to outdoor life coming in the mail and also in fisherman magazine because that was that was kind of the thing was you know i wanted to learn more about fishing and growing up in cheyenne wyoming. It was like a dead zone fishing. I mean there's there's really not much closer unless you're going to drive like two hours to glendow three and a half hours to seminal five hours to voice in like you just forget about it. There's just nothing there so you're talking about teaching people. I was reading that as much as could. Because i knew when i went. I had to really capitalize on those trips and sell ob. You've done amazing job about that. And i just wanted to know if you could just share some tips with us you know. What's what's in key strategies of getting kids and just other anglers out on the water. What are some good strategies and tips number one number one. Make sure you take him when you can get a bit people. I i mean i can't old is powered pork edges especially with the younger ones. That have a short attention. Spans inter is critical. That baba's going down or something pulling on the end of that line and Are that's one in even with a new adults and we have a lot of those coming into the sport now that have never fished before and yes. They have patients where the young people don't however their patients will wane after one or two trips without getting up by. It's the biggest hinderance that i've seen to our sport and your people neck key is getting a bit a bike. Too late that fire they gotta catch something and You don't wanna take him out in this herbal weather conditions yet the weather good into everything your power to make sure that they get back in there and the reason people fish in continue to fish is they had a good experience and a good experience is something pulling on the end that the wire gets really the reason you're out there. That's what motivates people is the miracle of of this. It is amazing to me. My entire life in this business to see would fish can do this change. Somebody's like yeah. Yeah you know a kid sitting under edging blue gills and all of a sudden nowhere. A two pound bass runs out reminders. That back and grabs your bank. You never had. You're catching a six inch blue gills and having a ball in this best is your hook break where your life forever somebody had never muskie fish. You know they heard something about it. They're they're going out with somebody that knows something about all of a sudden next to the boat. This monster opens his mouth bites on. It's an image yet burns into your into your spirit that change. It never goes away. That's what likes to fire in this sport. And here's why it's so important. That that their two n into good weather to do it in your. That's the key is to get get a matching get a matching get them and then if they're really young after three hours to think to run into live whether you get a few fish rockets there fascinated with fish bouncing around in a live That's the key really. Is the key to keep them motivated. Keep them fishing kit. In a short period of time you know and again with the adult young person after after you know you get them out for two trips. Third time Yeah you're going to say you want to go fishing or meet today too bad experiences them. They're gonna go bad back in play video games. Interests will beer so al. I was fortunate enough to grow up near salt water and my dad in the pacific northwest. We did a lot of salmon and halibut and deep sea and i got introduced very young to fishing. We actually just had a podcast with my dad on talking about starting that fire that you're talking about i'm curious who was the fishing mentor in your life. The person that got you hooked on fishing. Actually my my brother and years my senior and He he took me every weapon time. I was a little kid. Yeah you know. He's seen a bring cash and he shared that he said there was something about it from the time you were little. You're obsessed with fish and fishing and he nurtured that he actually nurtured that dad dad in him being older than i am a yeah you know. He kind of took me under his wing and I had some really good experiences in those years. One of them that that really fed my passion for fishing was my mother and this is kind of strange but a share. That story with you. My brother obviously loved to fish. Yeah yeah you know so. He took me everywhere. Everywhere we go. We fished all pans and lakes and creeks and rivers and between chicago and milwaukee. And there's many of them and we're at every moment we could go go go. He'd be a good way he he took me took me took me My mother really liked to fish and She's seen you know people would ask me at a young age. What do you go to a christmas. Gathering family or friends like this and say l. conference. Yeah what are you do when you grow up bowl recovered. I'm living fishing going to a look at you. Oh okay yeah you don't blow it off my mercury. She she under the guy a brother with it she she at christmas time or birthdays or special event every time all my christmas presents and gifts were the latest greatest fishing tackle in the industry whether it was a ride or real allure magazines books. Anything that that that she fed bed it and never said that's a dumb guy you can make a living in the fishing industry. Yeah you know especially at that time you know that many years ago yeah you know and the only thing you again you know. You had tackle manufacturers at outdoor writers that At that time. What are the inspiring outdoor writers to me as a kid was jason lucas. He wrote for sports afield at that time. And he he wrote a book called lucas on bass and becky. I read it a dozen tanks. That and marked every page variances burned it into i mike and that. So yeah you know. It's experiences like that Then television every member. I n nears our tv tv fishing business. The first one His name was geared about gaddis. The flying fisherman he was the first one hit syndicated television fish and chips and he'd tried different locations all over the country and sheriff is fishing. Experience get out get it and then and then that led diverge award. That was the true Championship fishing and he was the one. Got my fire to get into the fishing industry in do a television show in the business ahead He was here in my hometown. In brainerd minnesota yet We're starting lindy deco company and His producer His name was j jadwin. He gave us a call at the office. What day and he says i am not. I would perjure war championship patient. We've been in the area for three days or even how we went into a well. I want you ask buster and can you help they understand you know the lakes. You're really good bishop. And everybody says go while alkyl corral. You aren't one so says you do show absolutely. We went out and we got a phenomenal show. Shot for hours to get everything done. He's all happy he took off and went back through missouri. And we finished. My brother looks at me at night. We're talking he's internet. Does your television show and talk about the lures that he manufactures. So you know we could do that. We got into. Why don't we start at television fishing. Show and helpless guess what little fire in pakistan. Tv channels that was would but a camera. That's what camera in my brother. Learned how to use it. And how to splice taped together at your rewind these stories and how you get into the game and enter the fishing industry and enter the sport different aspects that are available. All you get these different stories from everybody that that has been there enough to make a living business. But i'll go back to what i say just a little bit. Herb just amazes me. What a fish. A fish do to change. Somebody's stunning to me. How it happens all the time when experience would have been in. Just bam young know. You're right this change. Yeah i agree. It's it's an amazing experience. I i remember catching fish when i was little and how it lit my fire and again i. I promise that i would do this on the podcast. And i hope it's not lost because i you hear this stuff a lot but my friend. Seth ewing who lives in northern idaho and myself we we grew up. Just eating up your your shows and Magazine and and it really did benefit both of us. He's he's an incredible fly fisherman and he he learned a lot from your fly-fishing video that she goes put out with dollberg and You know and i. I love the small mouth and the walleye in those kinds of species and so it's just one of those things where i i hope it's not lost on you when you hear say you know. Thank you so much for doing all of that because it really did inspire a lot of people across the united states in the world To go out and fish to take other people fishing which i think is really cool one of the things that i always enjoyed and my dad and i always enjoyed watching. Fish was just the joy on your face. You were always you know chuckling and laughing and having a great time and we were just living vicariously through you as the wind. Blew about seventy miles an hour through cheyenne. But i mean it's it's just it. It really did make a big difference. And i do want to. I want to ask about this because this is really important to david. Ni- we we both have little kids and we take them out fishing hunting different activities. And you know you have kids of your own. And and i know. He's very influential and big into the fishing businesses. Well but can you talk a little bit about what that was like raising your kids to be fishermen but also you know kind of raising them during that time that you know you're just so busy and you got all these things on with the with the fishing world and the fame that you had going on. How did you manage all those things and still make it a great experience for your kids. They grew up in the business. they did. There's not all all seven right here except in children. I've got two boys all of the kids. even girls. Three of his kids are girls. They all served in the business wing. Some of your friends. At the time we started lindy dako copier reports sinkers learning advertised snow. Rapper mind cars. Were exposed to the business is a family run. I mean all their life you know and they grew up in many different fields yet. You know it other things. But-but-but number stayed in the business in our in the business today like jim. dna billing and mesa troy. Yeah you know and and my daughter niece who worked as a pr rest. For many many years fishermen still welts me A right right material and press releases and things like that you with the gifted in that area but they grew up in the business thing. Yeah and and that way you were able to spend time together so they understood it. They understand the crab and the things that this life style. If you went to make a living a good comfortable living in deficient indiscreet. I don't hurt my myself and i know many people that you and i do not that then ended the business row ripley. Welcome rarities Actor to it these days. It's a lifestyle business that you want to get into anything cup. Lack of time it is. It isn't in ninth the fact you you know you eat sleep twenty four hours or so you go to bed at night thinking in still today at the. That's been in this my life. There is not one and go. That goes by that. I don't read something about fishing. Watch something about fishing. Talk to somebody about dishing. It happens all the time. Not a day goes by where some aspect of it is in touch in my life. A part of my life in My closest friends are pretty much involved in fishing industry. Right closest friends. Are that sparks your question for me. L. and that's you know i'm kinda way way beginning of this journey. I've got a small family run company but it's in the hunting outdoor space. And you know. My boys are being raised growing up when we work right. We have stuff to do. There's it's a small family run business. it's not you know. Dad goes to work at nine. And we're we're done at five and let's go do x and y but my question is long term for me. My dad took me fishing law. And now i go hunting and now. My boys are in a hunting company being raised. How did you see kind of the transition of with raising these kids. In the company in fending fishing industry they stayed on and continued to fish and still thrive as that was our was that a positive experience for them. Oh yes yeah. Yeah for a number of now. There's some of them that was not. I'll use my to poison example. My oldest son george in here in heat you shared with the. I'll give you my first experience with it. needs he. He was raised in the business. He worked in. It works wade through until they went off to college in it but he was interested in fishing gets his passion in his case. Was things that move fast snowmobiles motorbikes four wheelers dirt bikes. This is what he loved to do. Sounds like we'd get along pretty. Well do troy and the other hand off from the time. He was a little tiny kid. You could see the seat of he would be back in front of our h- house here a day and night catching frogs and just running up and down the bank catching he'd loved it from the time he was four or five years old internet. Never change he absolutely left. And i just think again. God created all slightly different with different interests and is a good thing. You had one boy in the garage tinker on motors and going faster and you had another guy you couldn't keep at the house. He was taking his fishing pole and he was to the water at four and five. Yeah in in in you and your the answer. Paracha half have respect know. I respect that. They have to be their own person in in in seek out for thinks the all that you know that those different interest levels impacted their right as they were growing up in reading some cases to to what they're doing today you know again my son toys into it in a lot of different areas of my oldest son and interestingly he he he liked even as a kid. You're living on the edge. He here you love the excitement of the snowmobile races today. He he'd get so pumped on yet in today. He's he's the paramedic he's a wilderness paramedic in he's fighting fires -fornia loves the game. You're whites. He likes ribbon on the edge to me. I like living on the salary to belated contentment. That's what i really like. And you know. I follow troy on social media and that that guy is always out doing something. And he's. he's an incredible fisherman. I mean it's it's yet it just anything anywhere any way any loves digging around in offbeat places for a coupla. He's got he's got pack whereas in no matter where he goes scurrying rats. He sees the body of water anywhere. Anything they could hold the fish he just drives up insider road. And rodney goes spacious anywhere anywhere crapping around the country with him because spent he's spent some time out west and i know he's fish some areas where i've been and it's just kinda cool to see that and i do want to ask you a question about that. Everybody has some of those favorite moments. What it was like a favorite moment for you fishing with your kids that you can recall the years ago with troy. I'll give you a. I'll give you my my oldest son that never got turned onto it and here's winter. Mistakes that make made with the there was a series the best tournament series. Starting in minnesota zillion years ago it was called the northstar bash turned into and when he was about four years old. I took an pre fishing. Mary and i got a cabin on the lake. And i took him pre fishing for that tournament with me and he had snoopy rag. You had snoopy rag. And they had to wait spinner baits. Then you know it was cool. We're up in the morning out. Who day thinking around. He's dragging this spinner baits through the water. And you know. I'm trying to catch some fish. Internet little said something. It's something from we'll get more moves out to have been great you you you hold in iraq ruled colin. He looks at me. it looks at the rad. He throws looked at me again. I got the message. You burn me out so bad. And so i think there's a balance there were so you know. My dad took me steelhead fishing. And i've i've got quite a few steelhead to my name. And if anybody out there knows steelhead there they can be finicky and tricky fish to catch i. I mean the passion for catching them is kinda gone. I've i've i've been out steelhead fishing and i've seen this in the hunting industry where you know you get some guys. That are pretty. Some prowess in are pretty successful. They take their sixteen seventeen year. Old son out. He shoots a world calibre elk and ten years later. He's he's not in elk cutting he's into fishing or snowmobiling or something else does. Ruggles images of the other side of that story would try. What are the experiences a for a number of years we as a family. A number of where we fished in tournaments in canada Rainy lake in minnesota canadian border. Another one at nor tap happened awake to work and we fish team tournaments up there and over the years that we hit fished at is a group together ranch fish with one of his sons. Jimmy and billy clubs voice fish fish together with danny. We're troy and We look forward to these these tournaments every year of up there and we won a number of them in your jimmy and in billy one. Two of back in those weeks the week caprice fishing leading into that terminated. That was the week muster sunday for fifteen years. Yeah you know it was the highlights of of our trip together with all of us as a family together and each one bus us. Everyone about when i talk to the boys inclusive of troy. Now he says that was some of the most enjoyable experiences we ever had and all of us at weren't time and other did really good way. And i did a couple of seconds and thirds internet but did win one with him in california and in went ahead and opportunity. You get fish with you. Those times that we're in those events burn memories that they talk about still in. Those chips are really important with father and a son. I know with my dad. We had an annual trip that we would take to flaming gorge and that always meant the world to me because we'd spend five or six days out on the gorge just fishing and not worrying about all the other stuff you know. The work stresses of life. And you know i had told you in an email about a trip to voice in just those kind of trips. Just make a huge difference in a young english life and death makes it something that makes them wanna come back later ended it burns into your sweet. You get so excited and then you think about it so often you think you keep revisiting that your mind. Our great great great experience. Yep absolutely and i wanted to touch on something else because we do try to help you know young new people into get into fishing and whatnot. And what are some tips that you give people when they're going to a brand new fishery and they've never been there before. What do you tell him to look for. And what are some tips that you give them. You know it's gotten a lot easier these days because of social media into local bites really. I mean you're you're you're deficient research on lake levels in what the bites been like recently. Water clarity stabilized. Image is endless. In comparison to what we had sixty years ago running through the changes that i've seen are gathering in the business of what the liberal. But you could do so much preliminary work you know. Get getting on your computer Checking out google earth. Going to local site Hunting down to let local reports. That give you an idea of what the bite is like what they're biting that. Yeah you know. Even to death preferences that stuff today is is in most cases. These areas have a very dependable week. Al outlet and that retail outlet Is a great source of information. They don't hide stuff from people they want you to have a good experience and they have fishing reports. That are done weekly. yeah you know. There's things that are posted a soon as their retail operation. So they give you the most up to date information you can possibly get and the is saves you so much time by doing a little bit of homework. So i'll you've got fish a lot of places in your lifetime. What was one of your favorite destinations. One place you wanna go go back in two at this point so far i probably one of the greatest place that i would go go bad bad and it was a family of them. Refer went to australia and We fishburne windy and we floated the rivers my wife stay. She didn't go coin with us into the jungle. And we did it three days when but ahead my two boys and We floated the river. spur morning. And we can't detonate banks and stuff and it was going through the you'd see what originally state you with. All these people would come to the river and you see these salt water again. Getting you know we're we're presented teasing experience. We we fish adequate the very typical coins When with the river for and wendy was that the guy that we're with you at a massive john bolt in. And i think if i remember would the sixty four or more on knew we weren't we took Took off at a tipping point when we went out. I don't know how many miles thirty miles or so it was in between darren new canning two oceans. Boil them your. I've never seen so many fish in my life and we got stuck his thing. We had backup quit. I don't even know we've -able experience that in there then we fish. Gt's the great barrier reef. Yeah you know a couple of days we did that tap water fishing critique keys but that was the the most probably the most memorable trip send in the boys rules enough to to remember that and enjoy and i've never been back again but never been back after us really get to do that. Sounds like a lot of fun to me It was exciting. It was really exciting. Every day was true adventure. Oh man that's one awesome thing about fishing is you know whether you're going out your back porch to your little pond or no for for me it was. We went to alaska couple times in my teenage years. Dad took us up to prince of wales island. And those you can either go on a short little ten minute trip around around the corner and fish a canal right by your house or you can go. Halfway across the globe know go to australia does. The opportunities are endless and every one of them is special in. Its own way you know in every fish. Especially it's it's all the way to work with some incredibly you state. Anglers jimmy jeremy hardcore muskie. They looked. I mean this is their fish of yeah this twelve months a year. They're they're on sites. They're always thought worst. What's what's next year. Where their plan. And what is your shoots in that. But every one of us might might bishop choices of small outbreaks. And then i'll go to a wall in allege mouth after that and i enjoy muskie fishing but not like these guys do either yet. It's their deal. And we got guys crappie fish at that looked crappie fishing nets. i'm kinda more kind of favor with troy. I like a little of everything in every case everybody in office sometimes throughout the year goes and jerks and goes a car. What would we are. We'll get a car. Pike in warning to every two to get to tax at least yet you know something different something out of the ordinary it go get some carbon in you know it. It pulled the fun to catch challenging at times. There's a lot of different ways to get him the. It's something i would not want to do every day. Like the mix it up. I like to catch your letter. What types of things. I can't do when thing. I liked the variety but i mean They're so fascinating fish. And i still in our country today in the states. Stay they you know in your up in different places the world there yet. They're big deal especially european nations. You so that's the money. It's like our best here in drives the market. And then he many cases sh- something silly in some off beatles little place in the and trial go round when i visited him. He'll take me shore fishing spots underfunded we mainly corporation jumping. You see him in the afternoon. We'll go think around for two hours or hours a year some place. He'd learned that when he was in arizona for years he went to college. There learned all the inner city rex. He didn't have the both twitter. Invent until i took down with a boat. All during breaks and classes he found every single nook and cranny at fish in and around the entire phoenix area. And believe me. There was a lot of those a lot of little pans and stuff and in and it was you. Carpeting had more more at your standard run carpet. It hit they all had best large mouth bass in your blue gill winner catfish so we just think around shore fishing nets or his wealth of bank fishing for years. He went to school there. All he did was bank fish off it back and it was just fun. I would love to do with you. Know i got the greatest in late. Greatest poison the war world my london. 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Whoever i remember watching you on the wall i video and a bass video just catching tons and tons of fish on those jigs. I had a feeling it might be jagd merick rigor and well like smaller. My mouth says big big pig. Pike some version of chicken for must be done gun with tubes. Big rubber bates. It's it's a jig gonna jk. There's a better way for all kinds of fish all the time anywhere. Get a one sti- family of bates natural leaders acted under the heading up a chick but she was a piece of red or some kind would addressing the guy if might wait if may wait. Four ounces for watering might be a one sixty four for crappie a purple mylar. Jig will work pretty good for steelhead. But i i'm preferential to to top water. Dry fly stuff. I like to see that fish commit. Come out of the water. That's just i. I did enough. You know wet. Fly fishing. That i patrick knows. We've gone on some high mountain lakes. And i just. I really liked to fool that fish to come up all the way out of the water. He's any kind of fishing for musky. Your small mop mop secure rare occasions. Pike tap water breaks. Those are fun if you wanna be consistent year round. Yeah you gotta you gotta get beneath the surface of the water. Yeah my biggest hike. Was i had a fifty three inch. Pike and this thing was was monstrous and it was lake. Naturally larry larry dahlberg and he was filming. But we're reading and got in fake cockney kakatua water are you talk about a memorable experience with that and You know where he's been everywhere to do everything. Yeah yeah you know. He's still thought at their daddy issues. Deck it was unbelievable scene and fifty three inch this. We figured it was mid thirty pounds. You know thirty five thirty eight pounds something again. Maybe it was. It was jackie gigantic for bike. That was half water. Fish birds played beat of ball. That would be. That would be a lot of fun. I now i'm like. Wow that sounds like a blast. But i wanted to change gears just a little bit One of the things that have admired you for years is that you're not afraid to talk about your faith and i think that that's very important thing and you know i want to see if he can share just a little bit about your spiritual journey and how god is played a big role in your life after the two most important parts of my life. The next year shared all all the time. It's fishing in my unity. Go hand in hand every day. Day is just part of my life. I integrated what we do with the television shows. You know the the impact that it it a try to kind of quickly for you until the time. I was thirty five years old. You know i was a person. It was not an atheist store. Nick knight that nasdaq. I probably would have favored more upper eighty s. And i don't believe anybody that spends any amount of time in the outdoors anywhere can be an atheist. I think that's an impossibility. But i had no really. I was obsessed. And i guess that's the only word i could use obsessed with fisher twenty four seven. That was all that and you know. It gets all in our businesses. Were building at that point in time and At thirty five started giving turkey in my heart to Right to spirit a guy who was just tugging in my heart. I met people that that Turned her life over to the lord. Lord that were hard party hard-drinking people that i knew a hard partier. You know when they were like a different person you night and day and he started to talk to me about about jesus guy stuff i never heard of before the enemy sound comes with a lot of people you gotta understand nothing really new number and then i started the search knowing there's life got you got your busse heart who's much of his life in in one day turned us away lord has given us percents and i says well i i can't do it myself i need help i need your direction. I'm just saying guidance. Any made a confession of faith. Like they're nice and his life and then for about two years you know i wandered around back. Studied the word guide. The bible began challenged thing to me to get through a through know little things like could this really be real. You know like so many people. It's this bible. Could this stuff really. But this this thing is is there a guide the foundation guiding coke. Jesus was the foundation. Is this thing that he really is is. He says he is to be comfortable recently. Said he did from beginning to end. Yeah you know. And i started looking at this stuff. You know one day it got out of my head arc. It was never less years. All i can say is if you truly search is real. He's there you care some words to be. It's a real experience. You know the the point he's got to get out of your head in it. You have become a part of my everyday life. I'm not ashamed for the dash. That's it openly. That's who lamb. And i can only share the experience that i hear. And how would i life. My family My outlook on business. Now look on life right back by relationship with my wife and the older. I get a clearer easier. It is for me out to be more appreciative of of my lord grayson so al. I've got a question. It's a immuno high positive this way in a as starting my own business in the outdoor industry and then walking in faith in how how has that affected you know business decisions and just in a living in the limelight and and outwardly expressing. Your faith is there. You know ever moments of doubt. I mean 'cause i in today's society and day and age is definitely not something that's widely accepted. Are you saying in here by some subject back. But what would you buy. S- i mean as far as just running a business and then walking in faith. I if you look at the marketing partners that i have every single one of a from boat motor rag reels lures lying a wreck. Chronics are the top right at the top of their field in their individual categories. Everyone of and we've been with them for many many many years. Some of them almost my entire career. And i've said in corporate boardrooms all over the country. Go going all over television space over television network and contract saying that we re mega conglomerate and never have. I had one of say anything about my confession of faith and that show it all. Most of them have said they appreciated it and go forward and one of the reasons for that is an and some of them are not people but they businesspeople and the bottom line. Is i self stuff for. That's what i still stuff on. I do my job or am i would absolutely. That's why they don't you know so it's it's a only one. Major major challenge would network. It was who was with a network and and jerry jones johnson. They want forgot about guy that that was the words that they came back came back and they said that it's interesting the way they did notification we played on this network for a number of years and this particular year correct when just the way it always hits in five weeks into the show and it was a wednesday afternoon when it got where got i got contacted by the president of networking. And he said it's gonna pull the show because you're religious stance on it. We don't believe it's we. We went network anymore. This was on a wednesday. We get i managed. They did this going to pull it if we did we. Did we read it. Every i reiterate that we think energy i get contract signed with a bunch of sponsors and i had to deliver the numbers in so we get at that show and euronet weekend in the entire re edited version. And we continue our attorneys. Said you know you've been with. They want to take the court. You can't beat it you got. You ran for five weeks already. You did this for years. They never get it. They can't do for this thing and and they talked iran in in my wife. Laura his wife's no we'll go to thorough. They don't want you. i don't i don't want to be there. they want. They want us to be pulled what they want. They wanted to be this what we did back to show to them. We make the changes in our last of the contract for the television season. We sent them with bill. They said the bill hearing on pitching to us and we sent them the bill. Bill them back or the editing changes. We have to make sent it back. I never heard from them. That i didn't pay for the network in europe. Charge them back for all of the pain and misery went back bent. So it's no legal. Nobody called us back. Matt a single thing the legal. Nobody their legal. Nobody never heard from him since well. I'm really glad that you guys you know you. Un ron have have always been good about you. Know talking to people about your faith and it's been a centerpiece of the show and one of the parts of the show. The actually look forward to a bunch is the very end when you go through whatever god lays on your heart and i really just want to say. Thank you for doing that because we need to be able to talk about these things and i. It seems like culture is trying to move in a direction where they don't want you to talk about stuff that might offend somebody. But it's like you know these are things that we should all be talking about. You know if that's part of your life that's an integral piece. You should be able to talk about it. And there's one one thought i have on that. Patrick is to speak to have speech to have thought. You risk being offensive. Right to someone. And i mean if we're just gonna walk around muzzled and mass and never have a conversation about anything i mean. I'm into big game hunting that that can be offensive. Catching fish can be offensive. So we have to push back. We have to go. They'll run over here if you don't get you know and i'm a big thing an immediate business all my life. I'm a big believer a freedom of expression freedom of speech. Even if i don't with it so am i even. If i don't agree with it you still have a right to share. I understand and i respect it. And i think that's something that people need to remember. Is that just because somebody says something. You don't like doesn't mean you have to agree with them. You can just choose not to listen to that person anymore. I mean there's there's stuff that's put out all all the time that i don't listen to and i don't want to be associated with because i don't agree with what their stance is and you know there's plenty of stuff that i do love to watch and listen to that. I do agree with people that disagree whether you should catch fish on spawning beds are not right in an argument about that or you can easily selena when you can easily get there. But but again. I i like i said i. I respect our our freedom speeches. An expression is an important thing. I've been in the media business my life all my life and in people have a right this year that i have i a right. The like to tune into a cheddar offer. Do whatever i want with it not read it. I can exercise my own decisions. I'm not gonna go in there in equality sponsors sponsor them. Because you're doing this dead. I never do. And i think that's something that needs to be heard and i'm glad that somebody i'm sure a few people here it on this podcast but what you said is very true. We don't need you know this. Cancel culture of of things that you know. Ripples need to be able to share and people need to be adults about it and mature enough to handle it and choose what they want to listen to what they don't. I mean that's it's it's really part of the backbone of what what our country was supposed to be about and Were anyway i do to change gears. Just a little A guy that's been really influential in my life on fishing is pat o'grady. I met pat. Oh man that's probably been twelve thirteen years ago. And he was getting his company started. And i jumped in and helped him out with. Pk lures and here. He had told stories about you coming out to wyoming and doing some fishing. I remember reading. In the law. ally wisdom books About seminole and a few things. So i just wondered if you could share a little bit about coming out to wyoming. Western space are so different than northern or ride scary. Yo it's a whole different world and you mentioned to you mentioned alluded earlier when they get used to is. Never any wind ever ending win in. I mean if you go if you're going to fish you better better get used to win. Better not bothering you. The rick the vote right the handle nbc and being a safe piece the piece of equipment. They handle wind in it. I don't know if you guys ever go through three straight days in a row word you calm day never. I don't think lever happen. I go to archery shoots. And i have people say well. I'm not shooting in the wind and they start playing. Oh the winds blow. And i said well you come to wyoming. If you don't shoot or hunt in the wind just don't go hunting joke. Defeat w. t where we go to the code is as an example. You look at the weather report the night before they they say the win the window. We from fifteen to twenty five. It means it's going to be forty plus asu. It'd be forty dollars. Plus that's what you're going to get the truth. Well you talk about seminar. That is one of the windiest places. I think in the lower forty eight. I mean the the wind speeds on that reservoir are ridiculous. But i'll tell you the fishing is phenomenal. How many winter they put around it. Yeah they put a lot of wind turbines that sucker for good reasons but those western reservoirs growth big fish. Hey we're trying to keep that a secret. Al off carp fish is amazing and even some very. I'm a small mountain. i love smart fishing. The small mouth world small mouth. Fishing is as popular as it's become the tournament organizations. That have the come up north and since two small fishing and a great lakes and now they're coming everywhere yet yet you know you get to experience it in tournaments Love it the small mouth. Fishery that exists. West of the mississippi river is still some of the most unexplored smart fishing in north america systems. I can't you're innocent. At west of the river or to western states many of those reservoirs got phenomenal phenomenal. Nominal bishop i. I liked to tell the story. I've told a couple of times there's a. there's a river in oregon. I won't give the name but an all out to you. We drift boat floated at one day. And i hooked sixty small mouth in a day and i got tired of jagan forum. So i put on a mouse pattern. I tied and i caught. You know half a dozen small. He's on a mouse pattern. Just throw it right against the bank and start stripping out and they'd at that river this drift boat only so motorboats in that that can be a lot of fun i mean those are their sparkling out there and some of the some of the bigger systems pick the missouri river as an example for four. You've got set at saf. You've gotta wacky a. These are massive bodies of water massive massive systems and their in in in in there. I mean the small muppet. Nobody hears coast that they won't see an angler in your role year for small. Nobody'll be their four. Pack four pack is one of the most remote fisheries. I've ever been to. And i'll tell you what they're there have got to be miles and miles of shoreline that never get fished and i mean there's massive massive in their own up in way up at that even at the dry air dry air too short that is about what forty i think. That's forty miles long. And then you've got that main arms like one hundred and sixty miles long. There's very few accesses. Oh yeah you know you're right. I remember we had a pw heat from the tournament. They're in what we we got the attention that anisimov parsons weighed in. It was kabaya. They rent way when came to brought the smart in with his bad fish. So we could wait and it was like a six three or six or this. Was that smaller. That miniature scale in your macro swarm are up in san francisco. I couldn't pull about about have to lead. Somebody's somebody structures. Just drive in his crazy ton of them in there. That's an incredible says. I said there there miles up. It is the most untouched massive untouched mama. Fishing attack. the guy goes through not to mention some of the. There's one night and forget. That warned that they bleed. I think they believe their next record. Birsh sure commander there. I can't remember to saturday with no gather some wells. Old anti yeah. There's some fantastic fisheries out here. And i know just in wyoming alone. I mean you've got a number of really good reservoirs for walleye and you know a couple for small mouth that are really significant and a whole bunch that are good for trout of various species. And of course he got flaming gorge with those humongous lake trout. And that's and that's an incredible fishery to we touched on earlier smarter and they've they've kinda taken a dive the they they think that the Burbot that made their way there. Somehow somebody moved burbot down there into that drainage from apparently around this area and They just haven't they haven't done as well they they were doing really well in the early two thousands. I used to go down there with my dad and we'd catch some up to four four and a half pounds and now it's pretty hard to find them. They're still there. They're just not in the quantity that they used to be environmentally. Then yep There's something to be said for that. You know when i grew up steelhead fishing. You'd spend a lot of hours and when you finally hook into one of those thirty forty inch fish. I mean they they take you for a ride for a while but you can fish for two three four days before you even catch one hook one hook up you go small fishing and have those fisher so dang aggressive are fun. It's fun so that's one of the beauty of them. Yeah there's a there's a little reservoir here in wyoming that kicks out you around five pound fish. Pretty regularly And i i went there with a buddy of mine one time and we are fishing. Top water thing between josh. And i we we both got probably fish apiece just fishing little poppers on the surface in it was just a lot of fun and then that thing that you talked about al that happens in wyoming happened in the wind blowing really really hard to get off their old of the gun the boat for your life. Get your your jacket on. Got what. I'll tell you that much we got wet but so what's what's next. What's in the future. What's what's you know. What do you plan on. what's coming up. What are we. Should we be watching for and getting a little long into or the age also slowing down. A little bit i mean jimmy wego muskie fishing me for four hours. I ain't gonna go in our barrett fats or two pound rubber. Big thing can happen. You're only as old as you act. Al see you know strongest kid. My body doesn't want my five. You don't want to receive that. There are things that are wearing down a little think. That's wisdom speaking to abandon. No too so. I i have to pick pick and choose a little bit a little bit more but i still loved the game. I mean know as long as i can contribute that this sport in a positive way. I'm gonna do it. i'm not gonna. i'm not going to quit. I'm not gonna retire up. Going to crack back. And i mean by cutting that i wanna do more fun fishing on the shows. Jimmy jeremy that the staff and other people we work with. I'd like to see troy get a little more involved with this stuff. These guys you pick up the ball and run every night for long enough to fund fish a little bit more by that go do some things and places a lot of bodies of water that i'd like to play around a little bit now for two hundred and a lot of people don't understand that you know when you're going fishing for the weekend without a camera crew that that can be quite pleasurable when you're going filming for an episode that can be you know when you gotta redo takes a redo when you just wanna go explore to make it happen you gotta make. It's working people don't they. They sit in their living rooms and watch that and go. Oh well they were just they. Turn the camera on and went and had a fun time. There's a lot of hours behind the scenes when the cameras work was in. And then there's a year no it's addressing a lot of times a lacking half and on hot fight fetched but then when you dress the show after that. That's when you get the underwater cameras stuff out to fit. That fit the scene where the fisher coming in in to get the right drum shots environment. Those those all add to the editing and make it a little more exciting the music tracks that that go with it. you know. Music is so subtle in you know a lot of shows don't use music because you have to pay Their cost us thirty thousand dollars a year to use a music so yeah bachelor of music track because their royalties and alma my companies right in this is our very first go. My dad and i went she putting this last fall. We hired a cameraman and we took him. And i'm learning very quickly of the shortcomings of we didn't get you know. Be roll. Shot here and this extra shot here and you know getting that underwater shot or that overhead shot that you need in. It's you know it's really hard now to recreate and get those extra shots that we need to produce the film that i wanna purdue so make a real exciting piece you back. That'd be rollers goals man just putting the actual the actual easiest park. It is actually catching deficient getting their artist on films that easy. Then you've everything else is putting it together. It's all better than that anything. Sweetening the more things you have to compliment. Show the better. It becomes the up on where we're struggling. We're stretching it as as as as we can stay but it's fun man fun. It is a lifestyle worth living. Believe me i if you if you could do it. And you find a way to get your niche in their buck doing it your sizzle lifestyle business for a lot of people if you if money is your motivation and you want to get rich. Don't come fishing industry and here's a lifestyle some of us. I mean you could make a good comfortable but if money is silicon valley and they live in that world out there if you want to be able to go out and enjoy the great outdoors and have a comfortable lifestyle. Fishing industry in hunting industry. Got a better choice. you will never regret. it couldn't couldn't goodness it better myself. I have one more question and this is a really important question. Now because on this podcast we talk a lot about recipes and we talk about food. I'm sure you eat fish i. I'm positive that because it's so darn good but is your favorite fish species to eat. And how do you like it. Prepared real simple for me. I had a free nights ago again. It's just brought up perch beer batter perch sounds pretty good to me. A can of bean beam beam some some cream corn on the sidewalk outside with it. And it's like eating better than a lobster themselves as it gets it. Sounds like there's always it's yeah it sounds like you've into edwards family dinner because that's what we do in my house the fried walleye perch and crappie and some some spicy bangs man purchased it. It they are is still. You can celebrate thinking about my wife. Exciting as getting just guys came back from a leech lake and they were a good perch. Blatancy wentz arch for your prize. Bring them over man. Yeah well that's awesome. And again i just want to say thank you again for coming on the show. We're really grateful for you. You know not just the impact on our lives and whatnot. But just i know how busy you are. And i am grateful for you taking the time to spend with us today. I really really enjoyed the opportunity guys. Like i said If they can't be fishing the next thing to do is talk about fishing. What ten below tonight. I'm enjoying. I enjoyed our time here. Today and You know another rapper. During some that you might want to get. You might get some time. You're looking for another guess. she can. She did older jim. Your jeremy better outstanding and they noted you're ready to get the truck getting some real offbeat stuff. Those guys i jimmy and his muskie fishing jeremy those guys. I'm i'm really jealous. Because out. here you know we just don't have access to purebred muskie's it's just we don't have them so i watch those guys and i watch those shows. I just sit there. And i salivate and i cry a little bit because i really wish i could be there but man. It's your fun. Watch those guys catch them. Windfall muskie by turns out. I'm telling you they get like you know that it's happening. After two pearl they get in their fall formless derise turn glassy. You can't even talk to him out space. I can appreciate that. Patrick knows win. When fall. season rolls around. David gone. david all gone but al will. I'll tell you it or if if you make it out this way we'll put you on some fish instead of just talking about some fish arabic bro. I like it man. i'm in well. God bless you and You know be safe on your travels this year and i look forward to watch and more of the winter media so i appreciate it very pretty opportunities guys everybody habitation. Thanks a lot. So i think we should keep rolling for a minute. We'll wrap this show up and do you have to tell a story about al. I'm really glad he came on the show. In my first and only time that i've al was i cast in twenty eleven and i was working on my laptop and i was up in the las vegas convention center and i was sitting on the side. Which is a huge building enormous. I'm sitting out and kind of of the way trying to find a quiet place. I get wifi and do some work for pat gradient. Pk lure so. I'm working on it. And i see this guy. Come out the come off the stairs. I see that it's outlander. And i'm like oh man that's that's all inter i wanna go say. Hi and say thank you. And so i get up and start to head that way and i kid you not. It was like a stampede. The ground shook. You know the sky got dark. There's all these people just came from every direction and kind of cut me off and you know it was like okay. you know. These guys are more important than me. These our sponsors. You know these are guys that have a vested interest in talking to al. And so i'm like i'll just wait here for a minute. I'm sure clear out. It didn't clear out. The mass massive people just got bigger and bigger and bigger and then that mass move down to where all the booths were. And i was like well. There goes my chance. Shake his hand and say thanks But w quicker next time patrick. Yes but now. He's got to spend an hour talking with him and he's he's a wonderful guy and he's made an impact on my life that you i can only just tell you guys that it meant a lot to me today to be able to talk to him when i was younger. My mom passed away. When i was fourteen and after my mom passed away one of my things that it was kind of an outlet for me was fishing just to get away clear my head get away from life and my dad. I remember one saturday. He took me down to cabela's in sidney nebraska which is about a hundred miles from cheyenne. So he went to sydney. Bought some fishing gear but we also went and we found that they had a rack of in fishman. Vhs tapes and books and so we picked up those things and brought it home. And i mean. I was in those things. Like you wouldn't believe you know on those rough winners of shan that i keep talking about you know with the wind. Cystic crappie fishing. That was there. And i don't mean the fish you know we we would watch those videos. And we'd get amped up for that next trip to the gorge to catch small mouth or that trip that we had that next year where. We just clobbered the ele- perch walleye at poison. So you know those kind of things really mean a lot to me and just al and just the way is just how he has so much. Fun has so much joy around fishing. It's just so inspiring to me and so having him on was a big deal. You know for me today so it was great but i learned that and positively right. Vate faith and fishing is what he said. But you if if you're not having fun in this industry and he really did hit the nail on the head. Yes it's it's nice to be able to get to a point. You could make a living at it. But if you wanna make money go to silicone valley go go go create the next app or whatever the next thing is you make money and live that lifestyle but you know he touched on it. He's been in the industry for longer than about anybody and he still working i. It's it's crazy. He's seventy six years old and he's still going and just definitely an inspiration to a lotta people and one of the things. I wanted to pass along as if any of you wanna try to win a trip to go fishing with al. You can actually put in for that right now if you go to. England edged dot com. Which is there lindor media fishing page. So it's angling edge dot com. You can actually enter to win a trip to go with al which i highly recommend you at least in the show notes yet. So i'll have that there and then of course go check out their website. I mean they have so much information on so many different species of fish. It's kind of mind blowing because there's just tons of it and you can order. Dvd's and a number of other things but definitely support them. They're great family. Great group of people definitely take a kid or a new person with you fishing. Pick a go. Pick mali's yeah. It'll catch some mvm. Some of these dvd's are shown. Their youtube channel for over magazine cited in fact last night before doing this stuff. I showed the kids i said. Do you wanna see who are going to have on the podcast and the kids were like. Yeah i do. And so. I pulled up youtube and just played one of their one of their walleye videos. And they're like oh man that's really cool dad and they were all excited so definitely get people inspired. Get him out there. That's the whole goal. Patrick exactly so again. Thanks everybody for listening to this podcast. It doesn't happen without support of our listeners. And david and i definitely appreciate it. We do sorry you have to listen to me some days Or for that matter so as not all there but definitely go to our website. We have shown notes. We have a lot of different episodes on tons of topics. Bears elk in wall. Is you name it. We've got a little bit of everything. And then of course you can check us out on the social media. You want to support us. Computer read cast hat. Give a half ship it to you. They're pretty cool. A pretty sharp and of course. Go out and subscribe you. Know if you're on apple podcasts or spotify or any of those places that you gave your podcast subscribe to the podcast like podcast. Pleased definitely leave us a review. Tell your friends your friends. Yeah so anyway just wanted to say thank you again again. Check us out at red. Cast outdoors dot com.

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Chicago Weather: Calm Before The ‘High Impact’ Weekend Storm

5 Things

00:48 sec | 2 months ago

Chicago Weather: Calm Before The ‘High Impact’ Weekend Storm

"A winter storm is continuing across the country. Up to ten feet of snow is expected in parts of the sierra nevada region and the national weather service has issued a high risk avalanche warning there in parts of southern california heavy rain more than four inches in some areas is expected early. Friday and parts of central california could get ten inches of rain. The state was slammed by rain earlier this week as well causing mudslides and some areas which have a higher risk following recent heavy wildfire seasons. The storm now moves east just like the one days ago. then we'll drop snow in chicago. Cleveland and other great lakes cities over the weekend. The storm then moves to the east coast and to england could see snowfall as early as sunday and especially into monday of next week.

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"great lakes" Discussed on Weather Geeks

Weather Geeks

04:21 min | 3 months ago

"great lakes" Discussed on Weather Geeks

"Just as a you know in my career is to really be able to use You know weather and climate forecasts to to really help understand how water levels change and could change going into the future and have a more clear picture. I don't. I don't know if we ever will because of just how variable the lakes are and the different variables that impacted at different times of the year. but i feel like that's kind of pie in the sky for me is is really trying to use whether it climate forecast understand what lake levels could be in the future. And you talk about forecast as you. Well know as a meteorologist yourself. We use various observations instead. To remote sensing satellite aren't so forth end models Computer models info fourth. And i imagine you use a lot of those types of tools as well in forecasting are there is just if you had a magic one and you are sort of had all all the budget you need which we know in real world. That's never the case. But if you if there's something that you just wish you could have to make your job better from a technical observational remodeling standpoint. Is there something that comes to mind kind. First order thing that comes to mind for the very first thing that comes to mind and it probably the biggest challenge that we have when hydro climate scientists looking at this is the challenge of the international border. So we can't just grab one data set because it might not cover. Canada might just cover the us and that's something as which we have what's called the coordinating committee of of the great lakes really brings hydrologist and You know engineers from both sides of the border together. I'm we kind of hash out these issues. You know Throughout the year is that there has been especially when progress in in recent years in in making more as you would say maybe merged data sets. That can help us resolve some of these issues. You'll even from like a climate forecast perspective. It's like every month. I'm going to the client prediction center amblin into environment climate. Change canada's website. Because i'm trying to get both To see if there are similar if they're different in kind of you know kind just hashing out. Some of those disparities between the borders. Yeah that's interesting point. Because i recall some people that i guess clearly didn't understand that we have borders and different data sets during the wildfires last year because there are some people out there saying see. They're lying about the fires they stop at the. I thought that was funny. Because it was just the fact that it depends on. Who's dataset you're using what you plan on a map. And unfortunately a lot of people don't understand that a universal different people their different formats and all kinds of challenges in working data so again. This is the type of thing that i love when scientists like you explain those things to to the public because they just see mass and just see fires in the united states. there's no fires in canon. We'll there are that was just the. Us dataset being used. But i wanna kinda sorta start to pivot to a close here your meteorologist. It's working in an area that i would consider perhaps been somewhat non traditional too many students that meant for example. Come into my meteorology. Permit university of georgia they. They probably have this sort of narrow suite of job opportunities in their mind. Frankly one of the may not be the. Us army corps of engineers give some advice to a young student out there that may be thinking about future jobs atmospheric sciences meteorology. And how you sort of what your experiences were as you navigated into an area that perhaps wasn't obvious as a meteorological landing spot for your career but it sounds like you're doing quite well and are happier you know for for me. I feel pretty lucky. Because i somehow found my way to this but i guess you know my biggest advice is is you know take take as many opportunities that you know that you can and don't be afraid to explore areas. You know that you know maybe aren't at the top of your list. I never.

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"great lakes" Discussed on Weather Geeks

Weather Geeks

03:41 min | 3 months ago

"great lakes" Discussed on Weather Geeks

"Were so wet that it really had a lack of a seasonal decline in at twenty nineteen and that really set us up for some of the record highs. We saw in that lake this year in two thousand twenty the really interesting and i know that we've had some record or warmer than average winter. Temperatures does identify lake levels at all. Given what you just said about evaporation. Yeah the temperature during during the especially the early winter when there's potential for evaporation still occur off of the lakes. The can play a big part if we have similar to actually saw last year. And we've seen kind of so far this year in december where when you have those warmer than normal temperatures in the region that temperature difference now between the air. The water is less. And so you don't. You don't get as much evaporation off of the lakes which can hinder the decline. Yeah exactly so understanding. Sort of evaporation pro. You know we to get in a specific he'd in heat capacity because as smoke snow. Water attends higher specific. He will. maybe you know this. And so that's why it tends to warm cool more slowly than the land and you know you know. Why would you go to the beach. Down here in the south and florida and georgia perhaps in may even though the air temperature starting to be a little hot That water is still cold. And so i'm sure those kinds of thermodynamic and thermal effects are are at play in the lakes as well but just from a different perspective which tasted takes me to my next kind of curiosity Questioned for you. How does the presence or on ice or lack thereof affect water level rise or fluctuations. Yeah ice is a tricky one because you know it does impact to the evaporation and it doesn't impact the water temperatures as well So you know. Typically you know if you're experiencing a cold winter where you see a significant amount of ice cover a form. You get significant. Evaporation because of with the ice cover formation and that can however it can lead to water temperatures that are much cooler so as we go throughout the year there have been studies done that showed the following fall. There could be less. Evaporation because those water temperatures are cooler so there have been studies that have looked into bat. Now if you have more of it ice free lake that that becomes a little bit more challenging too because although the potential for evaporation does still exist because the lake is open doesn't mean that it's going to occur if you get those warmer than normal temperatures might not be much. Evaporation and we are back on. The weather geeks podcast. I'm dr marshall shepherd from the university of georgia. I'm speaking with diana apps from the us army corps of engineers about lake levels and lots of hydrological and water and meteorological interactions. So we're gonna geek out today. That's what we do in this five gas. We're going to geek out. So i wanna kinda pivot now. Dan not something that you worked on in two thousand nineteen are you presented at the international association for great lakes research conference Which focused on extreme events in great lakes And i guess in the past decade or so. I think maybe you mentioned.

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"great lakes" Discussed on Weather Geeks

Weather Geeks

04:19 min | 3 months ago

"great lakes" Discussed on Weather Geeks

"Geography so I have a similar background. The your so how did you migrate from meteorology into geography. And why and then. How did you end up doing war. Level forecasting interesting path When i when i graduated from us we go state. You know there was just an opportunity that kind of got lucky and fell in my lap there at michigan state anna geography department and they're at the geography department at michigan state. You know they have a climate. A climate and hydrology focused part of that program Look at you mentioned. Dr julia winkler's staff member there and i worked with dr li peng low a. Why was there. And that's when i kinda started to dabble in a little bit of the hydrology were all and climate. I got a little bit more background in climatology So that kind of what set me up to transition into this more hydrology role with the core. I've definitely learned a lot On the job. But i find myself you know using a lot that i learned in meteorology. It's you know when you're forecasting great lakes water levels it's it's really almost applied meteorology and understanding How these water levels go up. And down based on the hydrologic meteorologist conditions that are occurring. Yeah i know several good people up there in a michigan state and just an opportunity for the note that much of the great climate sorta hydro climatological work that goes on in universities around. The country are geography departments There there's a lot of synergy in connection between meteorology geography's not maps and capitals and things that people think geography human geography and physical geography in jio folly climate and a lot of other things. Because i want to dispel that. Mrs smith as well again i'm meteorologist but we haven't atmospheric scientists program in geography also the department at university of georgia and so over the fifteen years that i've been in that department after coming from nasa. I'm amazed at how people really don't understand. What the discipline of geography. Because they just know what it is from like elementary school when they're doing capitals and rivers and things like that. I want to kind of pivot now to your work at the. Us army chorus shutout by the way to the army corps of engineers. A great great agency believe within the military. The reason i know this. Because i actually have a project right now. Uga colleagues with todd bridges and some folks down here more in the southern part of of the us army corps of engineers water levels in the great lakes defiantly rise and fall throughout the year. It's a natural process as they often tell us. Climate scientists about climate change things win. Do they typically rise in wind do they typically follow just some basics of water level. Yeah so what. As is you mentioned how they fluctuate seasonally in the wintertime. is about when we are at what they what we call their seasonal low as we get into the spring time you start to see snow melt and increase spring precipitation and runoff. That's when we typically see water levels rise and the great lakes as we get into the early to mid summer months. That's when we start to start to reach their peak water level and then typically in the fall and early winter that's typically when we see their decline in the the reason for that is is that you know over the summer months. The lake won't liquidators warm and once we get into the fall we start to have that colder air moving over the warmer lake surfaces. And that's really what induces. Evaporation and evaporation off of the lakes is really the primary water level decline in these fall and early winter months. Yeah that's an that's an interesting point. this evaporation. The sort of there's an example of coupling to the atmosphere's we know that water leaves the lake and it goes into the atmosphere as well Really fascinating. I'm talking with the anna apps. Who is the detroit district of the us army corps of engineers talking all things late level in water level. Not just sea level. We're talking lakes. Is there.

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Chicago Weather: Mostly cloudy, partial sunshine

Ben Shapiro

00:30 sec | 3 months ago

Chicago Weather: Mostly cloudy, partial sunshine

"In Canada squashing all the cold fronts down to the Gulf Coast and all the active weather energy, Mrs Chicago And the Great Lakes for the next seven days or so even freeze tonight Cloud cover keeping the numbers warm here tonight Partly cloudy Friday 35 mid thirties this weekend with some sunshine from the Weather Channel meteorologist Scott Larrimore wls am 8 90 with another update. 13. Currently we have 36 degrees at Chicago's lakefront. It is 38 degrees at Midway, 37. Officially at O'Hare. If you're

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Facebook and Antitrust

On The Media

05:52 min | 4 months ago

Facebook and Antitrust

"Beginning to look a lot. Like sherman. Senator john sherman. That is who in one thousand nine hundred ninety sponsored the antitrust law that bears his name one hundred thirty years ago he pronounced quote if we will not endure a king as a political power. We should not into her king over the production transportation and sale of any of the necessities of life on february. Eighteenth one thousand nine hundred to without any warning. The president ordered his justice department to file suit against one of the trust. In which j. p. morgan had major interest the northern securities company. Its goal was the monopolistic control of all of the railroads between the great lakes and the pacific ocean. Since then other powerful repressive kings have been dethroned from standard oil to eastman kodak to at and t. and t.'s. Dogwoods as good as gold. It was independent on our currency. It was gold. Now it's gone. That was one thousand nine hundred eighty four. This is now twenty years into the digital century. Big tech remains supreme. All but unchecked by law and regulation the so-called duopoly of google and facebook valued at just under two trillion dollars between them control thirty five percent of the six hundred billion dollar global advertising market. Not to mention evermore of our personal lives. This is harvard. Professor emeritus shoshana zubov in the documentary. The social dilemma. Facebook discover that they were able to affect real world behavior and emotions without ever triggering. The users awareness. They are completely clueless in the past. Ten days came a storm first week before last. Forty eight states and territories along with the federal trade commission filed suit against facebook that suit alleges that facebook bought up rivals with the explicit intention of stifling competition legal filings include an email from mark zuckerberg in two thousand eight in which he allegedly said quote. Better to buy than to compete. And then this past week. A second thunderclap. When texas's attorney general announced new antitrust charges against google the suit claims that google in a conspiracy with facebook abused its market power to chip away at consumer privacy protections and rig the advertising market. But if you think they trust busting senator. Sherman has come out from decades of hiding. That's not quite the case for decades. Antitrust doctrine has been fixated to the exclusion of everything else on harm to the consumer as measured by out of pocket costs social media mind control and the erosion of democracy do not fit into that calculation that sort of the traditional metric that we've used to bring antitrust cases and to really understand and measure consumer harm. It's been those price hikes that really hit consumers pockets Vossen author of the twenty two thousand nine paper. The antitrust case against facebook and illegal consultant in texas suit is on the leading edge of an evolved antitrust doctrine based on harms not necessarily inflicted at the cash register for example invasion of privacy on a grand scale. I just found it so interesting. You know why is it that the communications utility in the twenty first century that all consumers use essentially conduct something similar to surveillance. You sign up for facebook and facebook not only monitors your communications on facebook but even when i go to for example the new york times in the morning facebook is making a record of that and it is extracting from consumers the permission to basically track them across the internet. And it didn't seem obvious to that. Consumers would sign up for that proposition is something that they really liked. It's also a bit ironic. Because as i understand it. In the beginning. Facebook was favorably compared to. Let's say my space in early social network where your personal profile was at least one point. Public and facebook was theoretically an antidote to that. That's right if you go back in history you see how. Facebook entered the market with very firm. Privacy promises it got users to choose facebook over other competitors in the market and only after it gained market power and competitors exited the market. Was it finally able to extract this sort of surveillance term from consumers a large and you contract that facebook's growth goes up privacy protections straight down that's right and the fascinating thing about the new york attorney general's suit last week. Is that internal communications. Confirm that that's indeed. How facebook internally was considering strategic moves about decreasing users privacy. I don't remember another case that has been brought in a market where the price is zero and the government is deciding to defend the people based on things like a lack of innovation in the market. A lack of choice. Everybody uses facebook to stay in contact with their friends and family. And then just privacy harms.

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Feds to delay seeking legal protection for monarch butterfly

AP News Radio

00:48 sec | 4 months ago

Feds to delay seeking legal protection for monarch butterfly

"Despite its declining population the Associated Press has been told the monarch butterfly will have to wait several years more to receive protection under the Endangered Species Act the US fish and Wildlife Service will consider the monarch butterfly and candidate for designation as threatened or endangered but there are other species in line ahead of it Charlie Wooley who's the head of the agency's Great Lakes regional office says the monarch status will be reviewed each year a virgin see action could be taken earlier but plans now call for proposing to list the orange and black butterfly in twenty twenty four scientists estimate the monarch population in the eastern United States has fallen about eighty percent since the mid nineteen nineties while the drop off in the western part of the country has been even steeper I'm showing up there

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Sixteen-year-old First Nations advocate speaks up for clean water

Climate Connections

01:18 min | 4 months ago

Sixteen-year-old First Nations advocate speaks up for clean water

"I'm dr anthony leiserowitz and this is climate connections in two thousand and three josephine. Menam walked around lake superior carrying a of water. It was the first of many walks. The initial avi grandmother took to call for more action to protect clean water autumn. Peltier great niece and a member of the Kong first nation when we're born as national by people automatically given that rule to protect the water in the land sixteen year old. Jay has followed in her footsteps as a water protector and climate activist. My anti josephine is one of my biggest role models and mentors like her aunt. Peltier participates in water walks and speaks at events at just twelve years old. She confronted canada's prime minister justin trudeau about his support for oil pipelines. That she said threatened clean water and at fourteen. She was named chief. Water commissioner for the initial nomination as a chief water commissioner given the role advocating for first nations communities around the great lakes penalties zandt previously held the position until she died in two thousand nineteen when she passed away. She told me to not stop doing the work that i was doing. And not to give up so peltier continues to protect the land and water of her people.

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Interview With Wanuri Kahiu

The Trip

04:49 min | 4 months ago

Interview With Wanuri Kahiu

"Why is that such common question. What is that breakfast question. i would have for breakfast. Had part ahead Sarah millet porridge with spice were Cattleman cinnamon brown sugar and Yeah and but the. The partridge flowers made from millet mood for millet. Which gives it and then they and then they sour it somehow so it's like sour millet porridge and then i like to put coconut milk and spice in that sounds like porridge is usually this just bland. That's what it's supposed to be. Sounds like you're going to opposite direction. Gosh no. I discovered porridge of been discovering parche. All my life. I think it's a process of continual rediscovery honestly like my grandmother's purchase. The best part in the whole world was a best best best best best partridge and then i lived in mombasa for awhile in the night i tasted the part in mombasa and that was the best and i started feeling guilty about liking another party. More than my grandmother's really. Did you have a chance. you're still with us. I'm sorry you can even taste it. You couldn't even get her on board. You can do and also a little bit like mombasa. You're still living out in mombasa or you're you're here full-time based was what was that dalliance with the coast. I've always wanted to live at the coast. Feel like the coast is just a super magical wonderful. Can't i can't even explain mombasa's just it's beautiful. It's one of my. It's like going to the coast dismal. The ken coast is my happy place. All is has been in the indian ocean and the beaches and the coast on on the south coast of the northern. The most beautiful beaches anywhere. I've ever seen Right let's go. Yeah we're gonna so we have mambas where it's at. This deanne is where. It's at. So i just i try and spend as much time as possible so for a while. I thought i could live there. I was just like you know. I can live anywhere. Move bats while you can live anywhere. I mean you can in theory but you but but you can't is super small. It's like It's it was small. It was small for what i needed to do. So i was constantly like jumping on like an extra flight to just to get out of mombassa into opportunity into life and work. Yeah i'm going to pull a thomas friedman on your i i was talking to my cabdriver right from us saying the same thing everybody. He grew up with those living in nairobi. Now it's nice and there's no jobs. But that's i mean. La maybe is an exception. I don't know like a all of the people. There are trying to make it not nice but they. You know beautiful places. Great beach never have good jobs. There's never enough you're to go back to some godforsaken place like new york to get your work done okay. So attlee whenever people say where you from like visiting la and people say where he from. Mo's like the east coast the true your coaster. No because no because yeah kenya's the other east coast and you from the great lakes. That work no i was. I don't know isn't this Right so you're an east coaster kenya being on the east coast in but not like a proper east coast would still be mombassa again. The default how far back to your born raised in nairobi. Yep But then became hopping on a flight to get into life you. You hopped out pretty young young university even before that the last two years of high school i did them in the uk was there. Like that's when. I realized i was black. Hard thing to figure out here. I didn't know i didn't know it. I am like now i hadn't heard of it. I wasn't having race conversations with my parents. I'm having race conversations with my children now I just it was just it. Wasn't it wasn't a thing. Tribe was a thing. And we're trying to get over that and you know but race wasn't a thing i remember i had a white auntie and jews lake. You know like different. It's just like the odd person out. Wow you know. That's just because she was different.

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Snow for parts of the Great Lakes, Northeast and Ohio Valley

Ron St. Pierre

00:29 sec | 4 months ago

Snow for parts of the Great Lakes, Northeast and Ohio Valley

"Winter Storm starts things off forecast across parts of the Great Lakes, Ohio Valley in the appellations National Weather Service says that parts of Ohio, Pennsylvania and New York could see up to a foot of snow Today. Storm could dump up to seven inches in West Virginia to and some accumulation was seen in parts of Tennessee, western North Carolina and northeastern Georgia. Last night, National Weather Service says about six inches has already fallen on the South side. Of Cleveland. So here comes winter

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How a 22 Year-Old Company Pivoted During COVID

The Small Business Radio Show

06:40 min | 5 months ago

How a 22 Year-Old Company Pivoted During COVID

"Meredith. Welcome to the show. Great lakes wrap very. So how are you doing during covid six months and i can't believe we're six months in. I was saying just six months ago. Oh probably over next month right right. Now we're doing good have left the house really We did mu so. That was a little bit stressful. But all good so tell us about. The salesforce is small and medium business trends report. Why do you do this. And what can we learn from it. Sure we'll be. We just have published our fourth edition of the smb transport where we surveyed twenty three hundred global smb leaders and we actually got a really unique experience this time around because we published one back in march and the pandemic hat. And we're like we got we got. We gotta redo this. We want to get before and after so we just did another survey in august so we have a really interesting perspective of kind of before. And after i wouldn't say after i say now we're not quite after yet right. I guess that's wishful thinking right But during i think you know we're we didn't publish it on salesforce dot com slash. Fm be trends but he wants to see the details but you touches on things like how the pandemic racial injustice have affected motivation. What challenges and gold are happening with. Smb leaders how demographics shape the entrepreneurial experience in the outlook You know the role of digital transformation and driving resiliency in small businesses and really how small business leaders are planning to recover and to grow from that. They're really seven insights that stood out to me the first and not surprising we asked what are the top areas of focus during co bit in back in august sixty. Four percent of our smb leaders said safety and sanitation policies. Like i'm thankful for that to too as consumer next was fifty. Nine percent of leader said local public health mandates contact with service a out of physical space. That's top of mind You know second because we have the before an effort after that. Continue to be challenges. That didn't really change Keeping up with demand Forty seven percent ranked it very high in march forty six said the same in in august providing quality products still challenge on still one of their top challenges. Smb leaders but what was new and what really became more difficult for these three things which was bringing innovative products to market. You see a lot of companies have done so much to the word pivot now is being overused. But you see you know that the stock company now making ppe Howard folks getting innovative in delivering services to homes right versus navy in person You've seen i've seen in san francisco restaurants pairing up with the wine shop and delivering date. Night meals But really getting creative on the market but another area that was personalized customer engagement. I think it's become more important To engage with your customers and that's it became more difficult. You know something. Many small business owners had it really thought about the personalization and then third was the connected experienced How do i stay connected during these times. The thirteen that came out to me. Was you know we we ask. Vod survey respondents. Are you a growing business or you. Can you know Growing meaning our or your revenues growing Those are are growing. Were actually much more likely to offer flexibility to things like payment policies return policy maybe giving extended payment terms instead of paying. You know in thirty days you can pay forty five days but this really highlighted the importance of prioritizing developing a relationship versus a one time transaction about all the time and i think even more so in the last six months has been loyalty right. Returning customers You know the more flexible you are with these customers. Warned loyalty recreate. You create an honest. That's your recurring revenue. Are you wanna find your recurring revenue. The fourth thing. That really came out before you go on. I just want to discuss a couple of elements. Because i don't wanna lose them very important threads. You talked about the personalization of the customer gauge being so important. And we've seen that for a long time. Ever since burger king said you know you can have it your way people want a personalized one on one experience but it really is becoming much more difficult because on one hand you have the personalized experience on the other hand. You have contactless delivery right. So what do you think. Some of the best ways are for small business owners to actually keep that personalized connection with their customers at time. When they're not supposed to be contact lists right. You know i get about knowing who your customer is. And this is where i think. Technology actually can play a huge part. It's a huge advantage to small businesses. There's technology out there. Of course we've got some. But i think there's lots of great companies it's not affordable and it's easy to use but a great crm tool which is customer relationship and a lot of opposites. Don't go searching for a crm. They're like how do i talk to my customers. How do i connect. This is about putting the customer in the center of everything you do. And you want to get off spreadsheet or off the piece of paper and you know you as the owner of the business may know mrs smith very well. She has two dogs. she likes to be. She likes the color red She lied roses but you may not know her as well. When that person carl's intimate make an order. Wouldn't it be great if all your employees knew everything about that. Customer data is about personalization when fact that together and share that data with your company right so we call it just force. We call it the three hundred sixty degree view of the customer. We wanna know their likes their preferences their orders. What business have they done with us. What have they done the past. So you really have that personalized Interaction no matter who they're talking to when they call you or when they email you. Or when nate tweet you get. We're seeing growing channels is also about the personalization and it sounds like channel so many channels out there now. We don't just walk into a store. We can't really walk into a store. So you gotta be listening everywhere and meeting your customer where they're out

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Gottlieb sees Thanksgiving as "inflection point" for pandemic

Bloomberg Daybreak: Asia

00:52 sec | 5 months ago

Gottlieb sees Thanksgiving as "inflection point" for pandemic

"And the election happens now, with weekend reports of a second surgeon. Large sections of the U. S of covert 19. And the Trump administration, saying the U. S is round the corner in the fight against it. Former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb on CBS says not so things are getting worse around the country. I think Thanksgiving is really going to be an inflection point. I think December is probably going to be a toughest month. When you look at what's happening in states right now you're seeing accelerating spread. We're right at the beginning of what looks like exponential growth in a lot of states, the Midwest, the Great Lakes region, and Dr Anthony found she's coming out stronger today, saying that Mr Trump is not listening to infectious disease docks anymore, and that the US is in for a world of hurt. And, in fact a second surge through much of the Midwest, now North East New York ST requirement. The visitors test negative before arrival in quarantine for three days after entry before taking a second test on the fourth day,

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How Trump And Biden Differ On Energy Policy

Environment: NPR

06:48 min | 6 months ago

How Trump And Biden Differ On Energy Policy

"We are now just over a week away from election day although we know millions of people have already voted. But in these final few weeks, we've been focusing on some of the policy differences between President Donald Trump and former vice president Joe Biden differences that might not be so easy to discern when they're buried in the middle of campaign rhetoric or debate jobs. Right now, we're going to focus on one revealing moment during last Thursday's presidential debate when the two candidates talked about energy specifically, how should the US get and use power in the future have a transition from their own minister yes? Oh. It is a big statement because I would stop why would you do that because the oil industry pollutes significantly here so let's dig into that a bit more what other two candidates competing visions for us energy policy going forward and what are the implications per workers and the environment to help us sort this out. We've called Dino Grandoni he reports on all this for the Washington Post with us now Dino Grandoni. Thank you so much for talking with us your. Thank you for having me on. So let me just start if we can with that clip that we just played there is a divide and how these to view the future of. US Energy. So when it comes to oil, where does each one stand? Yes. So the two candidates have laid out starkly different visions for what they would like to do with the oil industry and how they would like to transition away from fossil fuels or whether or not. They would want to even do that You saw a Democratic candidate Biden pledge to move away from oil in favor of renewable energy and predicted that that kind of move will generate millions of jobs president trump by contrast says that doing that would be costly and hurt the economy and in particular would hurt the oil producing states where both men are competing for votes. Well. You've recently written that president trump has very recently tried to rebrand himself as an environmentalist which would seem like a difficult sell when his administration has rolled back countless environmental regulations over the past four years and he continues to push for oil coal and gas. So what's his pitch? Yeah, and this is a man who has spent much of his life trying to rebrand himself during various business ventures. So He Over the past year has changed his position and a few different things he has promised to fund restoration of the Great Lakes when in the past White House had proposed cutting money to do that similar story with the everglades in Florida and He is endorsed this idea planting a trillion trees around the world in order to suck carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. President trump is going to have a hard time convincing the public that he is a more environmentally friendly candidate than Joe Biden, release candidate who cares more GONNA do more to solve climate change. His administration has spent the past four years rolling back literally dozens of anti-pollution another environmental rules and that kind of reputations probably baked into the public. At this point president trump has attacked for vice president Joe Biden for what trump a radical climate plant and we do have to say this has been described as by far. The most aggressive climate and energy platform that this country has ever seen from a major party candidate. So could you just just as briefly as you can describe what are some of the key elements? So what Joe Biden wants to do is eliminate US contributions to climate change by the middle of the century and on the way they're doing. So he wants to eliminate greenhouse gas emissions from the power sector in particular power plants by twenty, thirty five, both of those are very aggressive timelines and like you're saying more. Aggressive than anything any other major party candidate has ever put forward. It's in fact more aggressive in some ways than what Bernie Sanders was saying back in two thousand sixteen. So let me ask you this though how does Biden respond to the argument? That's would cost this have tremendous adverse economic impact especially in states that are necessary to for him to win I, mean, how does he respond to that cost the loss of just thousands upon thousands of jobs? Well, he says that his climate plan is also a jobs. Plan that transitioning away from fossil fuels will create millions of jobs in itself to have to install solar panels, built wind turbines. But then also all all the different sort of retrofits that his plan calls for to homes and businesses to make buildings more energy efficient. He really thinks of this as an economic plan in addition to being a plan to stop climate change or headed off at least. Well, we knew though that president trump in contrast president trump has always kind of focused on that economic impact of. This country is kind of reliance on fossil fuels and back in two thousand sixteen many people may remember he promised to reopen coal mines and to bring back coal mining jobs has that happened no that has not happened and we've seen trump talk less and less about coal in the first two state of the Union addresses. He gave he talked a lot about clean call and saving jobs but he dropped those references in the last two state of the Union addresses and we've seen coal fired power plants continue. To Shudder and call nine continue to close down during his presidency not because of any government policy. Really. But experts say it's because of economic pressure Kohl's just gotten to expensive relative to natural gas and renewable 's and what about oil I. The idea that a move away from fossil fuels from reliance on fossil fuels is increasingly popular with the public. I mean, the polls make that clear but apart from that are the economics driving oil to face a similar fate, a colleague of yours reported last month, for example. That British Petroleum VP has come out publicly and said it is shrinking it's oil and gas business and investing in wind and solar. So are sort of economic imperatives or whatever public policy imperatives regardless of what president trump sort of perspective on this are they driving in that direction anyway. So during the pandemic at least in the short term, the oil industry has been hit particularly hard as people driving fly less. There's a lot less demand for oil and that has caused a lot of oil companies to have to. Lay off people and even have to declare bankruptcy in this country that said, there are some experts who do think that oil is going to go the way of coal right now, electric vehicles. There aren't that many being used relative to the entire auto market in the United States, but there's this expectation that adoption of electric vehicles is going to pick up and that's going to really eat into the petroleum business because most of the petroleum in this country is used towards transportation field towards the gas tank in your car. That is Dino Grandoni. He is an energy and environmental policy report with the Washington. Post Dina Grandoni thank you so much for talking to us. Thank you for having me

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Why Pennsylvania is Key Among Battleground States This Election

WSJ What's News

05:29 min | 6 months ago

Why Pennsylvania is Key Among Battleground States This Election

"President trump narrowly won Pennsylvania in two, thousand sixteen and the state is shaping up to be an even harder fought battleground this time. Around we turn now to our national political reporter John McCormack Hi John. Hi, thanks for having me. So John Pennsylvania is uniquely positioned even among the battleground states in terms of the impact of the coronavirus pandemic and the subsequent economic fallout. What can you tell us? Well, we did a data analysis looking at the unemployment compared to a year earlier and also the. Deaths per capita for every county in America what we found when we did that analysis was that a Pennsylvania among the battleground states has the largest proportion of counties that fall into both of those unfortunate pockets has a lot of counties that have unemployment rates that are in double digits much higher than a year ago because of the pandemic and it also. Has a good number of counties that have deaths per capita rates that are in the top twenty percent of all counties. So we we looked at both of these benchmarks to try to get a sense for you know which battleground state is sort of suffering the most pain right now related to the pandemic in Pennsylvania really stands out in in those rankings. Let's dig into some specific county as you call Bucks County in suburban Philadelphia a battleground within a battleground. Tell us more about that what's happening there? Yes. So the unemployment rate in in Bucks County, which is just outside of Philadelphia. It's nine point seven percent, and that's more than double what it was a year ago and we used your ago figures because there's a season -ality. Unemployment rates, and so we looked at what was the unemployment rate a year ago for the same month and then compared to that that month this year and bucks is a county that Democrats and Republicans have fought over very closely. In recent elections. Hillary Clinton wanted by eight tenths of one percentage point I was simply like three or four thousand votes in A. County that is home to about six, hundred, twenty, eight, thousand people, and so it is a place that gets a lot of attention. Every presidential election cycle it has an area called lower box, which is in the southern end of the county and is a little grittier more industrial and certainly more densely populated, and there's a lot of white working class voters in that area. You know really rallied around Donald. Trump. In two, thousand, sixteen in his campaign of course hopes that they'll rally around him again in this presidential election. So it's a big county. It's a complex county, has a real widespread in terms of soda sort of socio economics, and we'll be intensely fought over by the way former vice president Joe Biden will be going there on Saturday. We all know he hasn't been doing a lot of on the ground campaigning this summer and fall, but he's starting to do more of it and one of his stops this weekend will be in bucks. County. So that indicates it's important. You anticipated my next question. How are the dynamics you just described influencing how president trump and Joe Biden are approaching Pennsylvania especially in the final days of this election and how does that compare to what saw in the candidate approach to Pennsylvania in two? Thousand Sixteen Yeah Well Twenty Sixteen. There was a lot of emphasis on Pennsylvania as well. Hillary Clinton held her national political convention in the summer in Philadelphia. So that was an indication of how important the state was back then as well. Of course, president trump won the state very narrow sort of as part of his you know northern Great Lakes, trifecta Pennsylvania Michigan Wisconsin that really sealed the presidency for 'em and So it's important. Again, this time Joe Biden's headquarters is in his campaign headquarters is in Philadelphia, and when you look at the the television reservations that are in place for both campaigns between now and the election Pennsylvania on a dollars per electoral vote basis in other words if you look at all the advertising spending that's going to be going on in Pennsylvania and the next week and a half if you then divide by how many electoral votes each state has and sort of do the math on that Pennsylvania ranks right at the top specially for Joe Biden in terms of places where he's going to put a lot of dollars on television screens in the coming days. So John Given, everything we've just talked about just how key is Pennsylvania going to be in this election let's arguably the most important battleground state. Now obviously, Florida's is also very important twenty seven electoral votes, but Pennsylvania has twenty and it's sort of viewed as critical for both of these candidates from Vice President Joe Biden is from Pennsylvania. You know if if he can't win the state that was born in that, that does have a lot of sort of working class that he's trying to appeal to that could be pretty telling in terms of what happens on election night. So it'll be very much watched. Some of the outside groups that are trying to influence the presidential race they sorta described Pennsylvania as. Camel's back. They feel like if if trump can't win Pennsylvania then there's really probably know path for him. It's always dangerous to say those sorts of things because you know like anything there can be surprises in in different combinations of these states can add up to the two hundred and seventy that you need to win. But certainly, a lot of eyes will be on Pennsylvania and a lot of resources and time will be going into the state in the next week and a half before the Election Wall Street. Journal. National, political reporter John, McCormick John Thank you so much for being here today.

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"great lakes" Discussed on Natural Disasters

Natural Disasters

07:43 min | 1 year ago

"great lakes" Discussed on Natural Disasters

"Snow wasn't the only lasting consequence the weather patterns in the wake of the white hurricane complicated navigation on the lakes for over a week in Detroit Michigan slightly warmer Air Behind. The storm created severe fog that settled over the city for several days on Nineteenth. Two ships collided at a major dock because of the reduced visibility news of the crash spread further traumatizing. Other freighter captains the next night. The fog was so dense that all boat traffic halted. No captain was willing to risk the safety of his ship and crew. They had seen an unprecedented level of destruction on the lakes and now lived with a new wary awe of the natural power of waves wind. Still there were schedules to keep. The Great Lakes. Shipping industry had learned a painful lesson about the dangers of inland seas. But the captain's still had to finish their final runs of the season within days. The freighter traffic resumed as captains race to deliver cargo. That had been delayed a few weeks later. Another victim of the brutal storm was found partially buried on a sandy beach. A few miles north of Muskegon Michigan. He was identified as Captain Axel Larsson. He had been aboard his barge the Plymouth. When it went down in Lake Michigan his was the last body found before winter set in and halted the search. Exact numbers were difficult to compile in nineteen thirteen as no single company or government agency kept track of the shipping losses on the Great Lakes but with the recovery of Larson's body at the end of the year the ultimate toll of the deadly storm was finally able to be calculated eventually the late carriers association a conglomerate of shipping companies and cargo purveyors released a year end report with some sobering numbers. Two hundred and fifty. Three sailors were drowned on the steel freighters that went down in the storm and this number didn't even reflect the full scale of the tragedy. It only accounted for the twelve. Large ships that had foundered other tugboats. Small sailboats and wooden steamers had been destroyed and their crews. Were gone forever. Lake Huron alone had hosted seventeen ships at the height of the storm on November ninth. Only two of them had made it back to port and both were severely damaged the rest were sunk or ground across the rest of the Great Lakes. Over seventy vessels had been caught in the water. In addition to the sunk freighters another thirty one ships. Were run aground on beaches and rocks the damage to the shipping industry including ships and cargo total nearly one hundred and twenty million dollars in today's currency the record-setting losses were largely blamed on the captain's themselves but many people looked at the weather. Bureau warnings as insufficient. It was unfair accusation for meteorologists. Like William Alexander. He had been fighting a losing battle from the start beyond the gap of twelve hours between national weather reports. The Weather Bureau simply didn't have the technology to accurately predict the storm. The white hurricane had been the result of unseen altitude cold air slamming into low pressure. Humid air over the lakes. Meteorologists had no way to predict the air currents which blew thousands of feet in the air. It wasn't until the discovery of atmospheric jet streams in the Nineteen Twenties and thirties that meteorologists thought to study these high level wind patterns but in nineteen thirteen. The process of weather prediction was still little more than calling someone to the West and asking them to look outside while the Telegraph allowed for these reports to be compiled simultaneously. The accuracy was often suspect as a result of the storm. The Weather Bureau unveiled a new level of storm. Warning called the gale warning. This new label was reserved for tempests with winds between thirty eight and fifty five miles per hour. Anything above fifty five miles per hour and the bureau issued the simple but serious storm warning. The terrible toll of the white hurricane influenced captains of even the largest steel ships to take heed of these warnings. The Weather Bureau also began to phase out its system of using flag signals to communicate over the following years. They transitioned to direct radio transmissions. These became the standard for disseminating weather reports. As the decades wore on radio technology greatly expanded. And the shortwave. Marine radio was soon common on all ships. This allowed them to not only receive whether bureau reports but also transmit up to the minute information on wave and wind conditions and provide warnings to other nearby vessels vessel safety technology also developed including more efficient life jackets and survival suits. Sailors were safer in emergencies. And during the day to day work above deck but there was no taming nature's fury storms continue to wreak havoc on the Great Lakes. The tugboats sport sank in a storm. Only a few years after carrying the diver to identify the Charles s price and over fifty years later nature still had power. Over even the most modern technological advancements in nineteen seventy five the most notorious sinking in great lakes folklore occurred the or carrier Edmund Fitzgerald disappeared with all hands on November tenth. It was exactly sixty two years to the day after the white hurricane struck. The huge freighter was making its way across. Lake Superior in the midst of another November gale. When the ship broke in half it sank so quickly that not a single radio message could be sent before the crew was overwhelmed except for this infamous reminder in nineteen seventy five the powerful storm of nineteen thirteen was largely forgotten over the twentieth century. Then in two thousand thirteen the huge wreck of the or freighter Henry. B Smith was discovered on the bottom of Lake Michigan. A book about the expedition soon followed and once again. The public was enamored with the century-old storm the story's of huge ships being overcome by the power of the lakes made for captivating entertainment today. The Great Lakes continue to be a primary inland waterway for North America. Freighters still churned through the waves on the same routes. They did over one hundred years ago and nearly all of their captains no the legend of the nineteen thirteen storm. They keep a sharp eye on the western sky for the approach of the next white hurricane..

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"great lakes" Discussed on Natural Disasters

Natural Disasters

06:16 min | 1 year ago

"great lakes" Discussed on Natural Disasters

"William Baker. A professional diver from Detroit arrived on Friday. The fourteenth by then Lake Huron was calmer and he was ready to go immediately. He boarded a tugboat called sport. For the overnight journey onto the lake by six. Am on the fifteenth. They were anchored alongside the bobbing Steele Hall. Baker dawned his enormous rubber suit and bronze helmet. The huge clunky outfit represented cutting edge diving. Technology in nineteen thirteen to crew members had to help him lumber over the side. Drop into the water. All while keeping his airline and safety tether clear of any obstacles with a calm breath baker disappeared beneath the waves. The normally clear light blue water was still gray and muddy the ferocious storm. And it's thirty five foot. Waves had churned up sediment that obscured the water for weeks as he submerged. Underwater Baker was mostly blind. He said I felt her sides. All the way down for twenty feet then I lost it but I kept going down expecting to run into it when I discovered I was too far down. I started to come back up until I ran into the pipe rail there was around railing and I went until I found her name. I stopped took my time. I read the name twice. And then once more to be absolutely sure the name was painted in black on white bulwarks it Charles s price the five hundred twenty four foot or freighter had departed ash to Beulah Ohio on November eighth and capsized sometime during the height of the storm on the tenth as soon as the news spread that it was the price. Former assistant engineer Milton Smith came forward. He hit abandoned the ship in Asheville Beulah after he had a premonition of impending disaster now he was volunteering to help. Identify THE BODIES. That had washed ashore. It was a gruesome task. Milton was saddened to see his old crew. Mates waterlogged corpses laid out in the morgue. He remembered how certain captain black had been that. The last trip of the season would be a success. Now the captain and his crew were all dead. One of the bodies belong to Herbert Jones. The steward and Cook of the Price Jones was still clad in an apron. Not a life jacket looking at his old shipmates body. Milton said there Jones was just as he looked when he was about to prepare a meal which shows just how quickly the boat must have gone down. This conclusion was typical for most of the ships lost in the white hurricane. The storm had whipped the lakes into a frenzy of deadly waves. That overcame them with very little warning. The massive forces broke steel hulls wide open shattered wheel houses and drenched boilers before sending the ships to watery graves a few days after the identification. The price joined the others and sank to the bottom of lake. Huron still there was a glimmer of hope that some ships listed as missing or sunk would still turn up after all the Elsie. Waldo had been reported as sunk but the crew was found alive two days after the storm had broken. Their ship into this hope was not unreasonable. It was rather common in the early twentieth century for a Great Lakes ship to be reported lost before a few days later in different harbor or with mechanical issues most ships in nineteen thirteen. Didn't have a radio aboard. And those that did often too far out to transmit a signal to shore however by the end of that fatal week in November the shipping companies had given up hope that their ships would be found intact and the families of missing sailors were forced to accept that their bodies with never be recovered. The white hurricane finally dissipated over northeastern Canada. On the weekend of November fifteenth the Great Lakes region had been through the worst storm in its history. Now it was time to clean up and rebuild. We'll hear about the enduring legacy of the nineteen thirteen storm right after this now back to the story throughout the rest of November nineteen thirteen the shores of the Great Lakes were strewn with debris and bodies from the freighters that had been caught in the white hurricane shipwrecks were piled up on rocks off shore or run aground on desolate stretches of beach. Evidence of the catastrophe was turning up for weeks afterwards. Meanwhile cities across the region were digging out from under massive snowfall and repairing the damage from the vicious winds in Chicago. At the southern end of Lake Michigan the water cribs had been damaged by the enormous waves. The CRIBS were water. Pumping stations a mile offshore. That provided most of the city's drinking water. Each one had a bunk house for the maintenance crews stationed there and they were forced to replace all the furniture and supplies after a rogue wave the windows in Cleveland several hundred miles southeast on Lake Erie towering snowdrifts had blocked the railroad tracks a train coming in from Chardon Ohio was snowbound by drifts over eight feet. High more than three hundred. People were trapped on the train for over thirty hours until rescuers could dig a trail to the passenger cars..

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"great lakes" Discussed on Natural Disasters

Natural Disasters

03:19 min | 1 year ago

"great lakes" Discussed on Natural Disasters

"By Tuesday morning November eleventh. The storm had petered out over eastern Quebec. It had been two days since the blizzard hit Cleveland but there was still eighteen inches of snow on the ground enough to cancel a lecture at First Baptist Church. The lecture was to be on the general topic of regional weather patterns and the speaker was none other than William Alexander. The city's Weather Bureau chief William didn't mind the cancellation of his speech. One bit he was far too busy tracking the storm damage across the region. His instruments recorded twenty one point two inches of snowfall in the city of full eight inches more than the longest standing record. In that morning's newspaper William had been quoted saying take it. All the depth of the snowfall tremendous wind the amount of damage done and the total unpreparedness of the people. I think it is safe to say that presents storm is the worst experience in Cleveland during the whole forty three years the weather bureau has been established in the city. The storm had impeded at least one other famous lecturer scheduled to Helen. Keller the blind and deaf but outspoken advocate for disability rights. Had Been Cleveland on a speaking engagement and been trapped overnight. She later said I knew it was storming. Before I was told the rooms the corridors everywhere vibrates with the power of the storm outside Cleveland's urban infrastructure was desperately unprepared for such a heavy snowfall. Emergency services resorted to using horse-drawn carts to reach victims when they're gasoline engine ambulances became mired in the slushy snow firefighters carried equipment by hand or on horseback to the small fires that broke out during the storm. While Cleveland was digging out from under the snow the Great Lakes Shipping Community was taking stock of the enormous toll. The white hurricane had taken on their freighters and cruise fifteen steel. Ho Freighters had been sunk or run. Aground countless smaller wooden steamers and sailboats had been reduced driftwood and almost all of these vessels were missing crew members. The death toll was still being calculated at the end of the day on the eleventh four days after the storm I hit bodies were washing up. But at least one hundred and seventy eight sailors. Were still unaccounted for the single day. Losses to commercial shipping would remain unmatched until the Nazi submarine attacks of world. War Two. There was an ugly footnote to this sudden appearance of corpses along the Lakeshore Policing. The thousands of miles of shore was impossible. Looters would comb the rocks for cargo and bodies taking belongings from the dead. With little regard for respect or ownership..

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"great lakes" Discussed on Natural Disasters

Natural Disasters

02:18 min | 1 year ago

"great lakes" Discussed on Natural Disasters

"We'll hear about the gruesome discoveries along the lakeshore right after this podcast listeners. We realized that there are a lot of par- Castro's to choose from each day. Sometimes not enough time to sort through them all but in our new feed podcast daily. We filter through your favorite podcast series to highlight the most timely and relevant episode premiering. Each day every Monday through Friday. Discover new and captivating episode curated specifically for you. That's one new episode from our slate of content handpicked with you in mind. Time is precious. And we've got you covered follow Parkas daily free on spotify or wherever you get your podcast. You can check out more cash shows and a full library of episodes in spotify by searching for podcast in the spotify search bar or by going to spotify dot com slash. Podcast now back to the story on Monday November tenth nineteen thirteen. The storm known as the white hurricane had left a stunning trail of destruction across the Great Lakes region and dumped a record setting twenty one inches of snow on Cleveland. Ohio after two days the blizzard was weakening on its way into Quebec but the snow was still falling in Cleveland. An additional seventeen inches fell that afternoon snowdrifts reached heights of six feet long. The city boulevards and electric lines toppled under the weight of ice and snow. As the power lines fell like dominoes. Streetcars suddenly lost power and grind to a halt without power. The cars were stuck the hulks of stranded tram-cars lay dormant on streets all across the city. Any tramlines that luckily maintained power still had to contend with the enormous snowdrifts blocking the tracks. Pedestrians caught outside in the blizzard leaned into the wind as they tried their best to reach shelter. Many people who were stranded across town from their homes had no choice but to hold up and wait for the storm to pass.

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"great lakes" Discussed on Natural Disasters

Natural Disasters

04:00 min | 1 year ago

"great lakes" Discussed on Natural Disasters

"The the first rain hit Cleveland Ohio. A little after four. A M on Sunday November Ninth Nineteen Thirteen. The temperatures drop to near freezing in by ten. Am A wet slushy. Snow was falling over the city. The city's inhabitants were unimpressed. By the so-called white hurricane that had wreaked havoc over the western Great Lakes for the past two days but then the blizzard arrived. Tiny icicles formed in the beard of seventy eight year. Old William Lambert homeless confederate veteran. As he huffed his way through the driving wind and snow he was living in an alley along. Eagle AVENUE IN DOWNTOWN CLEVELAND. He had a small makeshift hut. Long dirty brick wall and a shepherd dog that kept him company. The allie was a well known area for vagrants and Homeless Men Lambert and his brethren were accustomed to insults from the Cleveland socialites. Shopping along the avenue but today none of them paid attention to the so-called bums as they hurried back to their sturdy homes. Lambert was cold and exposed out on the street in the early afternoon with snow piling up outside. He crawled onto his dirty mattress and tried to get warm his faithful shepherd nestled inside to at some point in the evening. Lambert got up again. Perhaps it was to relieve himself on the stained bricks or to scrounge up some scraps from the nearby garbage bins. He pushed aside the threadbare blanket and stepped back outside into the blizzard. He never made it back inside. He collapsed into a snowdrift piled up in the alley. His shepherd dog tried to wake him up and then resorted to dragging his master's body back toward home. He only made it a few feet with a heavy body in his jaws so the dog hunker down and faithfully remained on guard as the snow continued to fall around them two days. Later William Lambert's frozen corpse was found in the alley by police. He was Cleveland's first victim in the Great Lakes storm known as the white hurricane in the next forty eight hours. Nearly three hundred more people would be dead. Welcome to natural disasters. Apar- cast original. I'm your host Kate and I'm Tim every Thursday. We'll explore the moments in history when the natural world turn deadly. You can find all episodes of natural disasters and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream natural disasters for free on spotify. Just open the APP and type natural disasters in the search bar at podcast. We are grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram podcast and twitter at podcast network? This is our final episode on the Great Lakes Storm of nineteen thirteen of fatal inland cyclone. That slammed into the region on November seventh. The legendary storm was national news eventually becoming known as the white hurricane last week we heard about the approach of the storm over. Lake Superior and how it wrought havoc in Duluth Minnesota before moving onto Lake Michigan. This week will follow the surviving crews from ships in the path of the storm. We'll also hear about the blizzard that shut down the city of Cleveland and the storms lasting effects on the region.

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"great lakes" Discussed on Natural Disasters

Natural Disasters

02:42 min | 1 year ago

"great lakes" Discussed on Natural Disasters

"The immense size and unbroken length of Lake Superior allows much bigger wind driven waves to form than would be expected on most lakes over the three hundred fifty miles of open water. The wind can build waves thirty feet. High much of the lakeshore is vertical jagged cliffs that reflect the wave energy back into the lake instead of breaking it on a gentle beach when a thirty foot wave hits a cliff and is reflected back into the lake. Enough energy is stored in the huge column of water to create another twenty foot wave if this reflected outgoing wave energy is synchronized with the wave coming in from the lake. The two can combine to form a rogue wave over fifty feet high due to the physics of wave mechanics. These waves often form in sets of three sailors on the Great Lakes. Call this trio of waves. The three sisters many captains believed the sisters can be three times the size of the waves around them and the third sister in line is by far the largest the sound captain. Huddleston heard with the sinister crest of the third sister. This giant wave was likely over fifty feet high. It appeared out of the blinding snow and slammed into the ship's pilot house the icy windows shattered and the walls cracked and buckled freezing water poured in and washed. Helmsmen Foley out of the broken doorway. He disappeared into the blowing snow on deck. I Made Kiefer dove after his crewmate desperately reaching through the snow to find a hand foot a clump of fabric anything to stop fully from falling overboard instead. The helmsmen fell onto the icy steel deck. Keefer found him injured and shivering. He brought fully back inside the confines of the shattered pilothouse but as the waves crashed over the bow there was little difference between inside and outside. Keefer rushed to the helm and try to turn into the waves to steady the ship. Meanwhile Captain Douglaston gave him orders to make for the shore. The only goal now was to save the ship taking shelter on the far side of the peninsula's windbreak then Keefer felt a snap. He spun the wheel but nothing happened. The ceaseless pounding of the waves had finally broken. The Wall does rudder. They had lost all ability to steer. The Waldo was now completely adrift in the Worst Storm. Great Lakes history..

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"great lakes" Discussed on The Casagrandes Familia Sounds

The Casagrandes Familia Sounds

08:17 min | 1 year ago

"great lakes" Discussed on The Casagrandes Familia Sounds

"Nothing like sitting out on the stoop listening to the sounds of Great Lake City. Prima and coral sorry listeners me of esther I have to watch him, so he's coming along for the podcast Carl in. What is that I knew keyboard. Dj Mode with tons of noises like lasers and far. but this button is my favorite. TJ CARLEEN J Carl in La Catha Catha. Changing Carl is available for Birthdays Weddings Dhakal Tate. Hey guys. Working on the podcast you know it on your way to the hospital. You know it I'm prepping patient for a spleen removal. Morrow. What's Today's episode about J. Carl Kinloch I know it's about Great Lake City I'm taking the listeners to someone. My fever places around town. That's a great idea. Ronnie I pretty much thought of it. What are some of your favorite places? Who let me guess it's going to be a surprise. I know the Skate Park Mall. You love hotdogs. You're visiting Bruno's hotdog cart. Mom, she's good. Okay? Okay I have to get to work anyway. That spleen isn't going to remove itself. Fill gross wish. I was there luck with the podcast. We'll chat us. Ok listeners so maybe my mom was right. We are going to Bruce. hotdog cart a first have to stop by the coolest spot on the block. The. Oh. You said we were going somewhere. Cool on the and ignore ham listeners. This is my family's market on the ground floor of our apartment. Building me a low and older brother Bobby Rennet, we're are then. They asked me to watch joint about bobby getting his head stuck in a can of being. This is Mabel. She's one of the regulars here and she really loves mangoes. Ronnie you talking ghosts spill listeners. Okay then this I not want. You took my egg sandwich from purse. WON'T IT BACK NO QUESTIONS? Move I like you. You know I think they got this produce section all wrong. Be Sweet juicy mango should be up front fact. move the apples. Asthma. Let's check in with par. He's the macos delivery Guy Hey. Everyone! Actually talk a little bit closer to the phone like this like. Is this good Kiki everyone here? Me Menial that way too close. Just step back a little stay rate their check one check two. How's that perfect? So tell us about? What is that definitely drums? Maybe A to those probably don't WanNA parade. All the eggs sandwiches say stole from. Does it make sense? Let's see what it is Carl J. Worry free. Dr Everywhere. The Great Lake City Wiener Dog. Tony, little! Masters a ceremonies! Beatles ducks. Last! Car. Much better paper and we'll take two great lake city specials. Younger Easy Yami Bruno Dragon through. The guard can't means putting all the toppings on the hot dogs. Long. From Wester. You're just squirting mustard in your mouth. Like it go, kids you. How. These dogs are the best I. Wish I could send our listeners one. Maybe we can through. That in work. You relish all over. Okay Bruno. Can you tell us? Here's Dari they bananas day. It's so people. No, I've got more favorite spots to visit come on. My Buster. I never realized how noisy the city can be luckily our neighborhood here that. Gives a prisoner on. Keyboard I liked that record scratched though as I was saying. Luckily, our neighborhood has tons of awesome businesses to check out. It's our with Margarita. Salon garbage truck outside. Oh looks like it's broke down. Be. Following That I think we need to have different. We can take this. Here we go the peaceful quiet of the subway station. We can take this plane uptown to my favorite movie theater now busies actually the best place in Greek League city. That's right. You love trains. Would you like to tell the listeners about the subway? I thought you'd never ask. The subway is a public transportation system. Got Ya. Okay please continue as I was saying the subway system. On Didn't keep, that must be stuck. Turn! In. This is my actually nightmare. I know. Jack. He was my first. We Miss The stock to the movie theater reaching the downtown training cross platform. Where are the stairs to the other side? I've never been to before me neither. It's kind of creepy. I'm not scared. I didn't say you are coral. knocked. was that. Sounded like. Coming from both sides. Could. I have something to tell you. What is it coral I. I. I. Thought we turned that. Batteries vacuum. Up. The rats are frightened by your super annoying. Dj Voice. Let me see that keyboard I can clear the path. Having. It's working following. Was a close call. I know it's getting late to worship probably had back home. Is that power in the delivery van. We think so. Hey and Carl Hey. You WanNa live back to the Machado. Are. All know it looks like there's some traffic up ahead. Wiener, dog. not this again. Indoor podcast episode here. Thanks so much swore listeners for tuning in today I. Hope You had as much fun as we did and I hope you like to visit. Some of my favorite places as can tell. I just love the city their source to see and you'll never know who you're going to run into Karl. Can you place out since you've got that thing working again? You gotTa Prima. Clinton! Wasn't me?.

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"great lakes" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

03:52 min | 2 years ago

"great lakes" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"I think any discussion of the Great Lakes should also shout out Lee Murdoch the singer who wrote about or was saying the sea shanties, which my father loved, and there's also a lot of culture a lot of immigrants certainly Sheboygan Wisconsin where I grew up came. There originally on boats through the Great Lakes. My father even published a book about shipwreck Phoenix that went down in flames outside of Cheboygan in eighteen forty seven. So discussing means so much emotionally. And I guess I had your bird is my fear would be that, you know, one day the Great Lakes in addition to the threats that he mentioned the he'd been muscles such certainly off interrupt crunching on what about the water management will one day of the Great Lakes in danger of going the way of the ROTC. And it looks looks. Let's pose. Let's pose that to Dan Egan, the award lovely remembrance of that to share with us. Dan. We've got a couple minutes left. You actually have practical ways in which you think are relatively straightforward to help sustain the lakes and ensure them up in terms of their quality. Yeah. I mean, we're talking about the front door and the back door Chicago in the Saint Lawrence seaway, and we need to close those doors. It doesn't mean closing to navigation necessarily, but it means closing them as pathways for invaders to get into the lakes. You know, we've been talking about a lot of stuff that sounds grim and gloomy, but it's it's not all the lakes are still the, you know, spectacular natural resources. And there are great signs that native species are really figuring out how to live under this new regime with all these invasive species, if we can just stop the next one from coming give you real quick example. There's an invasive fish that is eating all of the not all eating eating, these Cuagone, zebra mussels. And and there's a lot of protein inside those shells that was otherwise inaccessible to the rest of the food web. So anything that can eat a goby is doing really well. And we're. Seeing native lake trout thrive to the point where they had been sustained on Lake Michigan only by hatchery for years and years. We're seeing natural reproduction whitefish are thriving on Gobi whitefish aren't Piscopo wars. Normally, they're not normally fish eating fish. But they'll eat a Gobi rather than starve and for briefly. You also said selling is practical is using trains instead of ships to to to bring some stuff in there. There are solutions, and you know, the shipping industry. I don't wanna see the ships. Go away, you know, particularly the Lakers, the ones that stay inside the lakes. They're big part of our economy, and our culture and there's room for him. But there isn't room for the next invasive species, and we need to fix that. And you right there heard the telling words of Dan Egan author death in life for the Great Lakes, Dan. So great to have you with us here in studio. Thanks for having me especial, thanks to the team right here. Wisconsin public radio and Madison all week for helping us and making this broadcast possible, including tumbling Bradley. Bryant off Aubrey Ralph in radio operations on points produced by NFL men. Brian hearts in TI Lena modest cuts Sonus Ellison poli Tanya rally. James Ross Alex Rodman marine Wasser with help from Alan Dangelo. Barclay Palmer and Lexi puree our executive producer Karen ship. And we pulled this off here in Wisconsin. I'm David Folkenflik. And this is on point. So about the time that he begins putting the duct tape on. He says this is a robbery. Last seen a new podcast from WB warr in the Boston Globe investigates, the largest unsolved art heist in history. The theft of thirteen artworks music Abella Stewart Gardner museum in Boston artwork involved was from Rembrandt Vermeer. It is to holy feel. Five hundred million will the painting. There's absolutely no question knew the police were coming the authorities. That are on this case are the wrong stories when the FBI says, we solved it, we know who did it. It's like, no, you don't because you don't have the paint. Subscribe. And listen to last seen now on apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts sponsored by Samuel Adams and ADD smart home.

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"great lakes" Discussed on Science for the People

Science for the People

02:03 min | 3 years ago

"great lakes" Discussed on Science for the People

"The coho salmon and then the next year they brought in should they thought the salmon would just you know make a beeline down the saint lawrence river for the ocean just they had a nose for salts or something or they die or they wouldn't be able to find the allies but you turned out it was a perfect predator prey match and the salmon just went to town on the airlines created this remarkable inland salmon fishery and again so i'm in are an anadromous theses they spend their adult life in the saltwater but they don't have to there's ample habitat is to civically food and that's been found in the great lakes so they they had an abundance of these allies to pray a pot and we created this wonderful recreational fishery that you know has been valued in the billions of dollars but that was just the story of the first wave of invasions i mentioned earlier about these salty's these overseas ships sailing up the saint lawrence seaway they they started coming in nineteen fiftynine kind of at the peak of all these early invasive species charles nobody really realized that time but he's tanks were teeming with life and so what happened in the nineteen sixties is we basically broke the top of the chain we took out the lake trout and we've we re stitched onto it grafted onto a new apex predator but what happened with these seaway invaders they attacked food chain and bottom which is a much more vulnerable place and then specifically talking there's been some i think fifty nine sixty sixty one new species discovered in the lakes attributed to balance water cincy way opens nineteen fiftynine but nothing's been as devastating as zebra in quantum muscles which are filtered feeders and you know you look at one of these things and they're the size of fingernail and you think how much damage could that do and yeah one can't really do any damage to speak of except for like you know.

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"great lakes" Discussed on Science for the People

Science for the People

02:22 min | 3 years ago

"great lakes" Discussed on Science for the People

"When the when the atlanta came tumbling back in and you know that really kinda grabbed my imagination because i thought what would you what would civilization look like if we didn't have the mediterranean you know that's just kind of a cradle of civilization and then and then the black sea you don't has a very similar story in and in this case it was the mediterranean that came tumbling over and that was after sea levels really rose up to the last ice age so we're not talking millions of years we're talking houses of years it's relatively recent but these were both you know kinda that trump phenomenon that drove the opening of these you know very critical navigational areas that linked lake them on not only to to cities and cultures within their own basins but to the globe wolves are all and so thinking about time scale and how you know one was happening you know millions of years one was happening on a scale thousands of years and then what happened with the great lakes we're talking decades and and it wasn't nature taking its own course it was it was human grabbing nature and and steering the direction they wanted to so i just kind of noodled around with that my head a little bit and tried that out as an opening and often you're reading something you know that's substantially long you'll try many different ways to open and that was really the only one i tried because it worked for me was the idea we had these kind of in today's world you know the mediterranean filling in would be considered a natural disaster same thing with the blacks black sea and and and we we didn't wait for natural disaster we kind of just created on so that leads really well into how the great lakes do connect to the atlantic ocean so there's always been a pathway from the great lakes to the atlantic but people being people we have now made a connection go the other way and allowed things to get from the atlantic to the great lakes and that was all a manmade effort.

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"great lakes" Discussed on Science for the People

Science for the People

02:13 min | 3 years ago

"great lakes" Discussed on Science for the People

"The views expressed on science for the people are not necessarily the views of this station it's affiliates sponsors or advertisers not the least to which being stripping plankton from the water sucking life out of the waters just the way to put it but they also from an industrial perspective they they clog water intakes which can create huge problems for cities who rely on the great lakes for water and you know there are millions of people who rely on the great lakes for drinking water hello and welcome to science for the people i'm rochelle saunters with me as dan egan an awardwinning writer and reporter at the milwaukee journal sentinel and senior water policy fellow at the university of wisconsin milwaukee school of freshwater sciences he is a graduate of the columbia journalism school and lives in milwaukee he's also the author of the book the death and life of the great lakes which he is here today to talk to us about dan lovely to have a year on science for the people it's lovely to be so before we get into the book specifically can you tell me a little bit about what got you i interested in reporting on in writing about the great lakes sure i'm a native of wisconsin i grew up in green bay in the northern part of the state which is on a bay of lake michigan and i spent a lot of my my childhood vacation in summertime on the water i two sets of grandparents who had summer homes on the door peninsula with just like i've thought about into the cold waters of northern michigan northern michigan and so i took many fun memories of those waters in in that place with me when i graduated from college and moved out west and started working at newspapers and i didn't have any kind of brand plan to become an environment writer i started out basically covering county government at a small paper in catch him idaho onto the sun valley ski resort but a lot of the issues out there were environment relate.

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"great lakes" Discussed on Science Friday

Science Friday

02:19 min | 3 years ago

"great lakes" Discussed on Science Friday

"Thank you for avenue you're welcome so how big is this win project so relatively small uh first thing to remember about this guy called the icebreaker project it's kicks turbines about twenty one megawatt which the developers say it's enough to power about seven thousand homes seven thousand homes and and know what kind of potential to the great lakes has a whole half for wind energy the resort researchers opt in the past several years have been looking at the great lakes potential finding out some of the best the area's uh for doing it added deterrence out there's there's a relatively good supply or or good areas uh it could be done to lake erie it's one of them uh lake michigan sort of in the middle of the lower peninsula as well as uh lake huron sort of on the thumb of of lake michigan uh they've also found some good areas up and lake superior but the some other challenges there and to in terms of water depth than just sort of the the more rugged conditions make that a little more challenging switch city how on lake erie is going to be closest to it can you have cleveland at it'll be about eight miles are so outtrim cleveland so standing on the shore you you can sort of make out and uh tell me why this is the first one wonder why is it taken so long here though the history of this a pretty interesting in in the great lakes uh for what i understand that the the first ideas a of a project outside of cleveland originated around two thousand four two thousand five by some some local groups and foundation to really saw it uh as a as an academic developments uh you know opportunity and uh some some of the challenges that but that city and and others in the midwest have had economic we it was it was seen early on as a way to uh you know sort of beal a leader on on this issue and and with this technology and then uh uh by about two thousand then eight two thousand nine was was really the height of interest you saw big m most of the states that are that are along the great lakes involved in this in some way or another uh michigan the.

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