20 Episode results for "Grammercy"

374: Pee Tasting (live in NYC!)

If I Were You

50:17 min | 2 years ago

374: Pee Tasting (live in NYC!)

"This is a head gum podcast. New York City. Really standing. Really? That's fine. Felt so good and your first instinct is to have been ab- is it right away. I was told it would be a bigger theatre. That's it. What are you talking about? I want to start the night on like a down move clearly do because you brought up the ovation and the size of the theater always told four hundred standing room only which forces standing ovation. I come out interesting. Everyone's there was a sign which was nice. Let's see the sign. These people all stood up. I would've appreciated it had I not seem passed it to the to the to the other hundreds of people applauding for you. This was a standing ovation, but beyond that was a sitting no vacation. And it really was no. Actually before you guys get to pissed off at me. We had an idea which was to take a photo with everybody a group. Ota. And then take that idea and make dumber we had the idea to try to print a hundred of them at kinko's and sell them after the show. That's right. So Brendan Jeff, Jeff Rosenberg and Brenda. Brendan thank several. I think we're both on this side both on the side. Yeah. Here like this. Okay. Okay. If you can't see the camera, then the camera can't see you many leaning, look happy are eighty dollars a pop. Everybody dad. Amir Devon everybody else. Frown? Great. Thanks to the noise. Thank you. Well, they were going to miss the show. Right, right. They're going to a kinko's on Lexington. Now. We'll see we'll see if it works. Well, with Jeff at the end of the show, they said they asked if we had merged, and we said, no, but we have an idea. Two friends that think it's crazy enough to work. And then they said never mind. I said, wait. And I said Jeffrey sure, you'll have to miss the show, and he said what show? I work at kinko's. This'll give me something to do who. Here is come to one of our shows before. All right Madera ones about first timers never been to. Scary to me. That's cool though. Can do anything we want? Everything's new and fresh. Yeah. So fuck what are you? You just said it was good. And now, you're exciting. I just don't wanna fuck it up. Growing your retreating into your head. People will be like how the show good. I'd never seen them before we're on. We're on stage now. So I just want to figure out how he had her monologue that happened out there. I wanna positive sub Reddit post. And if it's like, they were fine you're talking into a microphone and you're like giving everybody storm. There are no bad ideas. We do about one. This is about idea. No, we're excited some people drove in from even further the New York City to reform. Where'd you? Where'd you guys? Come from. Connecticut. That's where I'm from New Haven. You came from Israel to see this show. Awesome. We're Jewish enough that that does track for me. We'll do a quick prayer break in the middle. Blessing over the wine, a horror of sorts, a minora of George. A jeans based Denham Nora who came from Baltimore. You know, we're in DC on Saturday. Yeah. That is true. He's already too drunk to finish that. That's true. But I'm here. Now, maybe. Cool. We'll drive safe. We'll see you on Saturday. So for those of you who probably don't now, this is a vice podcast if you can believe it. That's why everybody's here. They're here because they want to see how we advise people out of their sticky situations conundrums, they're stuck sometimes Jake recorded alone in our studio naked afraid soaking. Try was wet for some reason. It's always humid inside and out. But today, we're doing it in front of three hundred ninety of our closest friends New York. We should we should call Jeff throughout the show for like little stat. Oh, that's an idea. I'll I'll time amid a little bit. Because as far as I remember kinko's is not great. Nothing ever goes smoothly. I went to kinkos, and it was fine, and I left. That's right. That doesn't happen. Yeah. No. And the lens gap was on the camera. So. That's gonna be what do you think will print the dab the the silly one? I think this silly one I felt like the energy was really good for the silly one. And the dad one you didn't like that one. So that was a little much. You could adapt in the Cillian good. I really could have. But I don't appreciate the life feedback kind of stuff that I want you to text me about later tonight. All right. Well, that's not gonna happen. Either. All right. So we take a c- try. Let's do it. Okay. Oh, that's comfortable. They change the late. It's blue now because we're about to get blue very blue welcome to an evening with Jake and Amir. Lock the doors. All right. So these are real questions from real people. Of course, you know, that already we just need a couple of fake names to preserve their anonymity. Let's start with any. Brandis used sweet soul. It's been a minute. I haven't heard from credits in a while done a live show in a long time. Have we thought she hanged herself? I really did. Glad you're still kicking Grandy. Kranitz writes. Hi, Jake and a chipmunk. First of all, I just want to say, it's absolutely amazing that chipmunk and come to Grammercy fucking theater. Where? City and like and sell the fucking thing out, you know, and you are woodland creature. You have a little still into Russell every Andrew Russell give it up. He's not gonna come on stage. But he did hand deliver them Andrew brought us here. So another round of applause for answer. A good guy one with ice one. Without you get to with ice I zero I guess I just I picked them up in a very dumb way. So was coming. I had them both on the bottom. Yeah. I didn't really know what to do. That's interesting. Yeah. Point, I went to you. And then you called me out on it tell everybody what happens. So. Just a little bit of unsolicited advice. Don't hold cubs from the bottom. Don't grab them bad people. Dear Jacob chipmunk, which is an auto, correct? Just awesome. You can read Daikin. Every human can read your all, right? Let's read the question. I don't wanna get hung up on semantics here, you are chipmunks finish the question. So I'm just gonna dive right into it. My boyfriend and I were getting intimate and doing the deed. Yeah. Before we started I had to be. But I figure we wouldn't be going for very long, and I could go after. Humble brag. Well. She can get them off. That's awesome. Well, when we were doing it. I had to even worse. He put his fingers in and was doing that for a bit. Then I couldn't hold it anymore. It's like it wasn't even me I pissed all over him. And then he noted. Absolutely has told me that that was the hottest thing we had ever done. He said that he always knew I could be a, squirrel. Just had to believe in yourself. He was so excited and even lick some of it off his hands. It was piss straight p not a Jack you with traces of urine actual. I'm so fucking embarrassed. Like every time I think about telling him I get knots in my stomach. He keeps talking about it. And I get grossed out because he pays drink my piss. Should I tell him? It was be or should. I not say anything. He also, I feel bad reading this. But I'm reading it social Torey allies. He also said he plans to try and make me squirt again. Thanks for the advice. Love crannies grant. So she peed. He thought he made her squirt which I think was scientifically proven to be piss. I think juries dill said, no. And it's and it's and it's to women so yeah. But you're word for it. Brother. But other any male scientists here, I really need dudes opinion on what comes out of Wadey. So he thought it was squirt which was down to slurp. But now. Why I'm still reading the gross when she pissed on. And now, she doesn't even know. She should you know, pony up. The fact that yes, it wasn't fact you're in and he's like I knew I believed in you all along. I knew I knew if I just had enough time. My parents told me you would never squirt just you, wait. Oh, you are going to the bathroom to squirt again. Maybe he's just stupid. Honey, I squirted five times today. I think I had a lot of waters. Oh is that I can squirt too. I did a Brown scored two. I know it's the word. It's the word that so words squirt. Yeah. Squirt is weird. It's sad. And it's bad to say squirt. Yeah. Well, not for everybody. Some people think tot would you say it's on Amata. It says squirt because it sounds like that. Yes. I think so. Gl. Yeah. We could teach people. What is what's what's the question? Should she confess to the P should cheek in fast to the? Yes, she confessed to the. What are weird? I j. A drinking song where we all the other one. No, she confessed to the me. Yes. The PP. I think I would. I would keep it a secret. I would keep the secret secret me you. And then everyone else, you're listening called Crandall. So I like p Krit is good. Yeah. Everybody caused over that should have been the standing ovation or maybe you dip your toes in the water and like Pretell. So you say. This is funny. I heard that squirt is actually p I know it's not, but like for the sake of this fucking game. Okay. And then he's like awesome. I drink your. If you think that's awesome, right? I got a bridge to sell. Or I read that skirt piss and he's like sick. Licked my fingers like the end of a barbecue. Your last trees of your yearned. At that point. She could be like let the sleeping dog lies with the word is I want just wonder a little bit. Why is pissed so gross? Yeah. Why? His house. It's not that gross. There must be diseases in your roaster com. Yeah. Come as also some weird liquid that just squirts out of your body ladies. They seem to know everything about addressed like there's so much porn that is all about women swallowing come. Yeah. And then this guy just like had a little bit of p and and that's horrifying. I think it's. Stumbled onto a woke opinion. In my hip now. This is pure urine. This is or Puran who say. I feel like there's diseases and shit and piss that there's not come because your body is wasting them on a daily schedule. Whereas semen is just sort of a bonus Jonas that your body gets road up. If necessary. Think of baking cook, I want think about you calling seem in a bonus Jonas, which was the nickname for the six year old Joan, brother. Oh, Tony and throw that on me right on this week of all week. When creating a perfect body. There's some stuff that needs to be discarded and some stuff that can stay in warm hearted, and the seaman is fine to live within me forever, and the poo poo pee. That's why they're call it in instead of Seamount exact. Another standing ovation. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. If you guys are listening at home that is Jake's third standing ovation. Wow. Semen Seamount C C O. And didn't know who we're when we came to Grammercy, right? We are a band. Would you? How about a good old fashioned? If I were you would you tell that it was on the day. No, I'm I'm adept at lying. I would just I would take that secret to the grave, and you could try to squirt, and if you can't you can piss on them again, and it seems fine. Navas day. Thanks for listening. Next question, shall we don't have opinion, whatever? Girl's name. I heard one that was coming from up there. What was it? Ronna. Laurent MSCI rest in peace. My ex-girlfriend who was hit by a bus. You guys didn't watch the Jake and Amir videos. Is actually a dude. But we'll call them Lear on my cousin from the video. But I thought he ended up divorcing you. Frickin divorced me. So lira n- writes last night the night started out going really, well, and I was gone of the Pino variety. And generally having a good time. Also, actually ended up meeting. This really great group of people and was invited back to to smoke. A Jay so everything so far is going great. And I'm leading the conversation pretty much talking about my passion for design anyways. As we're all walking back into the rooms the conversation is ending. And one of the girl says how great it is meeting someone with so much passion. Ooh. Pretty cool. Right. Very. I love passion. Read the question. Okay. This is where things start going bad for some reason. I responded. Yeah. You know, I love passionate people to it's like birds all of these birds. I listened to them at. And you know, somebody actually gave enough of fuck to name them. All thank God. Bad coming. This comment is met with sudden silence. Of course as nobody thought. It was funny yet for some reason the whole room had stopped to listen to me. Then the owner of the house proceeds to roast me and everyone laughs at him at this point. I realized how drunk I was and I was pretty much done for the rest of the night. Anyway, my question is this because I'm probably going to run into this group again at a party. Should I apologize? I've been running through it in my head for the last week. And the situation is honestly brutal. I feel like I could never actually be friends with these people without moving without moving past it. But at the same time, it might be worse to bring it up. I know I love the show. I of on lira. Thank you, Ron. Thank you. What what is worse than like saying a a mood killing comments? Then like coming up to the two weeks later. Oh, but I want you all. Due to the bird thing that I mentioned think nothing of it. You're holding a gun. I could use this myself you. We thought it was funny, man. Fuck. Blue jay. Oh, I love to where the thing that you said the fuck into the passion. I love that. Everybody. Bird balls. Shit at the crow crow at least somebody named them. All he's right. Somebody was passionate enough to name the birds. It's tough making a bad joke. I wouldn't know what that's like. But it seems really difficult right to say something. That's what is it unfunny that with silence. Can you imagine Jesus? Let's try it. We'll tell a joke each I don't want to. Lab. No, I wanna do that. I'll do it. All right, fine. Because I'm a hero to you already. Yeah. Go ahead. So I'm gonna say I'll do it because I'm a hero to you. But then everyone else show you have to really. See? All right. Nobody left. Nobody say anything all to it. 'cause I'm a hero to you. Pretty I thought it was ninety eight percent, but I need abject silence. Ready? Do it because I'm a hero to you. Yeah. That's pretty bad. I'd apologize. I didn't even do it. Her. Yeah. I bet your thinking about it Lear on more than they are. I don't think. So because that's such a dumb thing to say that I I do think that entire group of friends laughing about this back like that that has become an inside joke with them every time they hear a bird. They'll make fun of you. That's good. They call them Larry Bird behind his back and walks up to them. And he's like, I know I'm probably blowing this out of proportion. And they're like, yeah. You're coming up all the weird birth thing. I'll probably not accept. I don't even think that you are sorry. Honestly, we thought you were loser. When you were talking about your passion for design. So the night was never going good who's gonna Pino and invited to smoke Ajay. Is there is anybody under the allusion that this guy was crushing it and tell the bird Konda? You're the house owner. You're absolutely the guy that made the Zinger. Oh, man. Can you imagine being that guy? That guy's the man owns the. How is like I think you should leave my house go home to your nest, sir. Do everyone laughs club booze. Cheers jeers that guy asked to leave the party. Yeah. Oh did. I mention I own a house. I hate design. So would you apologize? Of course, not, but you can never be friends with these people again, just let it be a life lesson moving forward that anytime you say joke, that's not great. You have to choose a new friend group. I think on night one. That is that's the case. That's the K. Yeah. I'll I'll I'll yes, sure. I'll be bad lesson. I'm that's because I'm a hero and telling him the truth that he needs to hear right now. I bet they've already forgotten about it. I bet you're a cool dude who led a passion for design and birds. Who am I kidding? Fucking kill yourself. Now, I'm sure he's he's over thinking it. I don't think he has to apologize. But if that's what will make him. Stop going crazy should not apologise that if if it's not in the forefront of their mind that fucking makes everybody remember, but you went on a weird bird tangent. The other night. I never bring it up again and never reach out to the friend group again. And if they liked you, they'll reach out to you, and they've forgotten about the bird and all this forgiven. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Let's get one more. Okay. This guy is just this guy's drunk guy. A party drunk at a party. Skoge someone's at school be losses. Last name. Jim got. Jim writes, here's the thing. I'm not a party right now drinks fuck. But I. But I need to Email you for device I've been in a loving relationship for a while. My GIF is amazing. But through no fault of her own. I've been feeling certain pulse toward members of the opposite sex, especially at social situations tonight. I met my old tutor at my Jeff's, flat, Patty, and it was too much. I know it's too much to handle because I have a major thing for thority. Even though I love my GIF. I feel like this is a sing should I break up with her for her own good, please I needed vice badly. Cheers. Indeed, Skopje losses. Jim. Okay. So so he's already fucked his tutor. Yeah. We could give them advice for like this is the morning after because he was drunk in bathroom emailing us. Here's the sing. I met a Patty. That's right. Everything is happening to him. He's not doing anything. He's saying like their no fault of her own. I want to feel like this is too much of an attraction for me to handle. Right. Should I tell her for her own good? Yeah. It would definitely be for your own good. Also wanted to fuck somebody else. Yeah. I seems like when you're in a relationship, and then you have this urge that you said is too strong to handle it just means that you're like too weak to handle it. Yeah. Yeah. So usually it's because of you not because of the situation, right? And then interesting fucking old tutor because he has a thing for thority. That's like the least authorities someone can have. I think when you have a tutor you have Florida. I'm paying you teach me history and turned on by how much authority you have over me because she says what time to meet at Starbucks. Yeah. She's younger than me. But smarter. So I have a thing for that. Right. She knows how to speak Spanish. Did you ever have tutor? I had several tutors. None of them took. Dumb as a rock. Dislikes my parents best efforts. How does that work is it like a student your age or a student of little older is it like teachers younger sister. It's like it's like a. You what of fundamental misunderstanding of to think a tutor just needs to be like teacher at Jason? Yeah. Like my teachers cousin Jack is my tutor. He has a thing for science. He's not as passionate Jack spent his whole life. But oh, fuck do my homework. If my mom pays him. At least my tutors were usually like teachers at the school who were trying to make an extra buck decide to thing. I don't think so I need that one on one shit. Yeah. When it's one on one shit, and you still don't know that's a sad situation. Actually, I took the SAT's, and then I took six weeks of T prep, and I took them again. I got the exact same school. Book you. That's why. Do you say your dad was mad at you for that? Yeah. Yeah. He I think I remember I was on the computer yelled what the fuck is this. And I was really scared because it really could have been anything. I was doing so much bad shit senior year of high school the fact that it was your SAT score not improving seems to be the least concern. So you did it find the weed or the alcohol or know about all the people I snuck into the house last week great. It's just that. My verbal score. Didn't go up after you paid. So into yell vocab words at me for a month. I just did find on the SAT's again. Turned out. All right. Yeah. Only because I strapped my cell Celta your coattails. Yeah. My tutor was. Oh, my tutor was incredibly helpful. He took the exam for me. So I ended up going from on eleven thirty to fifteen ninety. Yeah. It was smart. But not perfect. Well, I told them to get one wrong to make it look like an accident. And that's being an authority figure. Jets. They load everybody. He's in a jail cell close. Of course, are you right now. Now that can't. Nice. All right. Good stuff. Thanks for the check in later. Was open this Daryl. Good stuff that was killed with one FaceTime, Joe. Yeah. Imagine if it was deafening silence. Oh my God. You'd have to sell posters. Apologize everyone. Let's get around laws. We're back from break. We ever get that audio. Notre should I read this Swedish man's question. I don't think we got the audio. Does anybody Swedish man's name? I heard I'm hearing a lot of vans. A lot of a lot of a lot of that. Okay. Spend rights I'm drunk and Swedish after the winter break. There was a new girl that joins I could try Thomas did Email me. Try face timing him. To see have. We wanted to read this in a Swedish accent? Yeah. We thought of it too late and he didn't have time. And he said, but he did say he just got home. I'm gonna FaceTime. But. We've today's time Rosie in kinko's time. Okay. You think he'll be able to speak to Thomas? I'm really really sorry to put you on the spot. But do you do you have to have that Email? All right. Take take your time say hit Amir. Tommy. Hi, everybody. He just. I'm just playing video games. That's awesome. Man. Is this a FaceTime Thomas twitch feed that you logged it too? I got I have it here. All right. Can you guys? Hear can you guys? Swedish man names, then. Okay. Then writes, Hello. I'm Trump's and sweet. After the winter breaks. There was a new girl that joined class. In just a few weeks has become very well like by both classmates and the teachers. But I can't shake the feeling that there is something very wrong with her. Confront to turtle out. She seemed to think I was crazy. So I started to follow her around. Just what? Just to see what kind of weird shits. She was. No evidence. Does very well in school and is a master socialized. When I told my friends about my suspicions about her. They relate that information back to her me. I was being weird and standoff. You're doing great. Solovy guys. All right. She is very clever and tells everyone that she does into my my suspicions about her and that she just wants us to get along. But, but I know she secretly hates skied foresees true colors. So Jake demeer. What should I do to make her reveal her true and horrible? I got the question again because that is so weird. So Jake can Amir. What should I do to make a reveal her true and forum intent? I can't stop thinking about her. She is driving me crazy. Oh, I should also mention she has some how gotten into my dreams. Which used to be so very sweet. But now is filled with nothing, but. Okay. Is very cute when she smiles and also saw for the long Email. I'm Vic drunk slash sweet. What is no good? While them that were those good. Yeah. I don't even talking to give this person advice that was just such a bond villain or something. Or he just doesn't know what having crush feels like. Bellamy. And I'm mad at you. And you're nice to me my dreams are hot. And I blame you for that ask her out. See what more insight? You can. I mean, you've absolutely blown it. She loves it. I don't think so he's like, you're evil. And now, I'm going to stock you you you've become the thing that you hate your the evil one. Wes, I have to go home and write a short. All right. So we get to this lady right here. Yeah. We got to. Are you are you the friend or you? So you wrote this as you for you us to answer. Cheery? The should I read it. I feel weird. I think I mean, I like you reading it. But maybe you can come on stage and sort of live reacts. Attack. You can you can go in through that door right there. Do you want? Do you wanna Lipper a second? Could we use your real name? I guess you're standing on state. Yeah. Sure. I'm gonna guess it's breed. Well, don't you have the Email? Yes, this one is this one on it is tight here, you what's your name? Coco. Oh, it is. Well, okay. So you lied to us already. You can take my seat. I'll stand back here and just kind of pace. Hey, broS nice. I'm a twenty something year old lady living in New York. Fucking city. And I got a problem related the threesome so Jake this one is for you. That's what's. Thank you. That's not fair but accurate so throughout our school. I had to crushes are, bro. One the hunky est. Boy in my grade and art bro to the hunky est. Boy in the great above me to solid crushes right there by graduation. I had bucked both of them. Then this past summer the Bruce who apparently were friends the whole time became roommates. And I found out that the two of them were psycho-sexual game to see who could get more of my attention. So recently, bro to ask me to have a threesome with him and pro one I'm more of an F M F type of girl but fucking to hottest guys from my school at once that's hot and them compete with each other for me during that's even hotter. But neither of them have out of three some before. And I'm scared the group sexual fuck up their friendship, and I think they might just be wanting to fuck other. This is once in a lifetime opportunity, so tag yolo. Should I puck these two art, bro? Deutz at once love. Noko love cocoa. Will be at the New York show in March on March seventh see then Owen, Jake, my friend, really wants to fuck your brother. Cocoa. I thought you were cocoa yet. Oh, yeah. So he's in seat BB seat number four some sort of that will ship that were up there. My brother's up there right next to my mother and my father so you can go find their locked ours right now actually mother we walked down the aisle. My brother is. He is in love with the cocoa. Cocoa. All right back to the issue at hand. Yeah. What are the what are the cons? Okay. So are you really afraid that it'll mess up their friendship. Are you that that's fine? Roommate they were roommate. It's a long term lease. You know, you look thought there's no guy who was like these two really hot chicks. I have a threesome. But I'm worried they'll fight after. I'm worried about lease. They get their security deposit back full tower me. Meanwhile, guys are like I'm stuck in this chick. And she's freaking me out looking pissed off my head for the kids her. That's completely. I've never thought of it from a male perspective. Yeah. Yeah. So the way to do that is just to not care about anything. But you. And then and then you're. Do you're so right. But I do also think that they just wanna fuck each other and Arn like confident in the shelves enough to just be straight up about it. They're using me as like what if your thoughtful enough to care about their lease than you should also be thoughtful enough to care about shepherding than into their new. We used to just start. And then I'll leave. That's wash face away. Then you walk away. Yeah. And then you're like, I feel really bad about your situation. I don't know if you got. I don't know if you are tour, I'll pay for your security deposit. Yeah. I would say don't worry about it. How fun with them. If you think they're safe are they safe, and they're let's. They're also we can put it two. Yeah. Let's take an informal poll thinks she should book the two honky guys that are. I don't think we need to. Let's follow up question. Buck. You of you. If you don't think that. Yeah. Kogo? Let's go. Thank you very much. You can keep this. Nope. It over here. All right. All right. We have time for one more question. Do we have a rosy update? Oh, yeah. I'll renting down the street posters flying out of his person. Thank god. I got on the wifi. Excuse me. Did more face timing in this show that we usually do. Yeah. Strong one shirt close close enough. Yeah. Should I read this last question would sherpa? That's true to the mountain. Try to door. Thick of quad. I did. I honestly thought that would go over worse. And it's really exciting that did it. Thank you very much. It's validating me because Rosie is not taking up. So he is available. He just it's long number base time, unavailable. But here you you, call them back. I'll read the question as hard one. Yeah. We'll see. I keep my voice that for that long. It is Jesus Christ this question. Okay. Yeah. This guy is it hard one hard one would have. Oh my God. Only one. Give it up for Jeff Rosenberg everybody. Looks good. So you print. Wow. So each of them cost to print eighteen. Oh, that's too high. Of course, pretty razor thin margin. Already signed. How'd you do that? How about were you able to print? Also, I'm blinking in. This photo is that fine. I know, sweetie. All right. So Jeff made it back. We're going to sell those posters. If you buy one. We'll sign it. Yeah. That's fair. That's fair. Look for yourself. Okay. I don't know where your passcode is. But yes, you wait too much phones. One seven five three. Yeah. It's my my pin number the my last four digits of my so what seven four seven one six to nine one five you're lying. One five. Are you reading this hard-won? I'll yeah. We'll try. It's. It's long. I finished my senior year at the university of Virginia. So to celebrate my roommate yet, you give it up go cabs to celebrate. My roommate camped outside Busch gardens so that we could wake up early and be the first in line in our favorite ride. By the grace of cord there wasn't a single sole in line. The dude manning the control said that he would let us go in by ourselves. My roommate said he had to piss and definitely couldn't hold it long enough on the ride then I said dude just whip it out and let it fly during the Luke Duluth. We were hoping that the urine would float an air like pennies go. So we get on the ride and Brent prepares his dick in the shy fashion, the fashion by peaking out of zipper, all discreet, turtle like. The ride begins and he gets to nervous to P. What we didn't realize is that there is a photo at the top of the Luth. Meant to capture the excitement of zero g the problem is his little dick is poking out and said photo, so they didn't let us off the ride until security came to get a closer glimpse by that time families began forming a line, and we're wondering why would they weren't moving? We pretty much were locked in as a crowd gathered by the photo of me, and my friend with his little dick out. After reviewing the film, the security guards decide that his little dick was indeed out, and they kicked him out of the park Hicks -pected me to go with them because it was my idea, but I didn't want to exit the day after one ride. So I spent a few hours at the park, then I left. My friend is now sad. And he says the only way to make it right is to take my dick out on a ride and let the gods decide the punishment. This seems a little extreme to me. So I ask you to is there a way to make this fair to him without risking public exposure. Sincerely, yours. Hard one short book, that's sort of the mountain. It's tough. Yeah. It's a sticky situation. Indeed. And if you're at the top of I think, he's thinking of a free fall the zero g pissed floating next to you. I think on a loop de loop. It's not like pennies floating next to you. I guess that's not really the question. Right. There point was like, whoa. There's piss everywhere, and we're astronauts, so it was a it was a false premise. We can agree on that balls premise dick reviewed the footage. And does he oh his friend take dick out dick for debt tit for tat? I don't think is dick for dick. I think he was a dick that was a dick move. Now. I'm talking like hard one. I can't shake it. I it was a dick move to not leave the park with him. When he had when he was kicked out for the dick. Yeah. What it is you get kicked out? And and it wasn't his dick friends, dick. It was his idea. His idea friends, dick, right? What would make it fair beside taking your work dick out on the ride? It could have been made bear if you left the park. That's that ship has sailed. Yes. That dick has passed. At this point in time. What do you think is the fair retribution for not leaving the park and convincing your today? Because out you could also say he doesn't know anything. I merely suggested it you're the one who did it. Does that have to do with the question or you're sort of? They haven't even heard the question. Just they wondered in off the street. They're curious what your DD characters Pinas looks like. Yeah. Well, fuck it hard one flashed dick, and I got eighteen so. And I didn't even have my performance to that. I'll tell you what. Okay. Now, you don't need matter lose on his day. And I appreciate it. I say to lose I think for this guy, you could want you take ride the ride Photoshop the dick because he's not allowed in this park. Anyway, you don't have to you don't he'll never allowed in Busch gardens out. Good. See you're like, I'll go back in and take my dick out fucking day and a half and there, right? So you take a picture yet? Just building up the courage on the fucking splash now. And woo the way you should do. It is actually go up on splash mountain, but sort of like get yourself erect like Papa Viagra or something. Yes. So and then you have to then you're hey, bro. I did it. But your dick looking awesome in it. You said to Photoshop you could. Ordinary talking about getting really hard and going on splashdown idea to fucking put me in the situation. So which one is it. Full hard dick Photoshop elongated even longer it's eighteen inches flapping in the wind next to your ear. So you got sunglasses your Dicks all the way up to here. And he's got a little pair as well. Right. That's the photo not allowed in the park the Pena's right peanuts. You don't wanna tip your hand in show them. That's been Photoshop though. Fine by small sunglasses, put it on your dick. That's smart, actually. So if you have a normal sized dick, but you're wearing we really tiny sunglasses. Holding a really little cheeseburger, really little cheese slider slider sorts. So you make everything small to make your small dick, look bigger Khurana and picture on a ride in Busch gardens. Thank you. Everybody. Thank guys that's more than our time. Thank you so much for coming to the show. Thank you. That was a hate gum.

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Times Square - NYC - Then And Now

Talk, Tales and Trivia

14:41 min | 6 d ago

Times Square - NYC - Then And Now

"Hello stephanie and this is talk. Tales and trivia. The show were are talk about society culture pop culture and i throw in a little bit of trivia too so that you can stump your family and friends. It is so cool and a lot of fun. If you are a new listener here at talk tells and trivia. I want to welcome you and thank you so much for tuning in. I hope that you enjoy this episode. So now everybody's sit back. Relax and enjoy this episode on times square and new york city from the nineteen eighties to the present. Well if you haven't been. I will make sure that you feel like you have. I hope that you enjoy this episode. You know new york city is fantastic. And i love it a matter of fact i have been there many times and i used to live there as i will tell you in this episode but i also want to tell you that it was in the late seventies and eighties entered the nineties. That new york city star to lose its attraction. It started to lose the people that came to visit and it star to be a real dumpster. People didn't want to visit new york anymore and so it was the governor's the mayor's and police commissioners started to take back new york city rebuild new york city one step at a time starting with times square in nineteen eighty eight is to murray hill in new york city. I lived in a three story. Walk up but first and second avenue on thirty first street not exactly prime real estate but safe enough. It was near the united nations and right above the entrance to the queens midtown tunnel Now you know if you are a new yorker or visited new york you know exactly where i lived then a couple of years later i found myself living in the salvation army apartment building for women. It was ideal. It served two meals a day and it was right across the street from the much coveted. Grammercy park the oh so glamorous and it was a close walk to eighteenth street between fifth and sixth avenues where i worked. I thought it was a dream. Come true and it was. I never really ventured to the west side past sixth avenue or anywhere near times square. Well that's what we're talking about. Today is times square and new york city. Everything i needed was right around where i lived but times square was unmistakably a major part of the city no doubt a black guy on the city a disappointment to the twelve hours of manhattan and somewhere that was to be avoided if wanted to dodge trouble darkness dealings and drugs. If you have seen the two thousand and nineteen movie joker with walking phoenix. Ps and by the way. I suggest that you might have an idea of the area and new york city. That was the cd and trashy times square. The closest thing. I can compare it to is a scenes in the movie joker to find a seedier place was difficult when they were filming. The movie and times square didn't look like does today so in the two thousand nineteen movie joker with no cd place to replicate times square. Really the producers of the movie had to go to newark new jersey a real old fashioned pit hole. If ever there was one to newark that was of the same timeframe as the movie never fixed up and never given a real chance to survive and today's society. It's a real shame but it depicts it perfectly times square where beauty came to die. No kidding in nineteen eighty six. When i was there there were multiple pornographic theaters and times square. The motion picture association of america introduced its rating system that included an x rating dip became associated with pornography. And so all the movies that were in times square were x. rated or the dreaded triple x. and everything was pornography back then pornography and. I should say drugs. The times square as a porn capital error was part of new york city's in the seventies and eighties amid its fiscal crisis. And later the crack cocaine epidemic which was rampant and it wasn't until the mid nineteen eighties that there was a push to clean up times square and new york city more. Broadly ed koch who served as mayor from nineteen seventy eight to nineteen eighty nine tried to launch an architecture dream. A philip johnson designed building project that up unfortunately falling through quick side. Note here for those. Philip johnson lovers out there. The philip johnston estate recently has had much success with his trending glasshouse. That's in new. Canaan connecticut and easy train ride on metro north with tours of the structure trending scheduling and waiting lists are required but new york was moving on to better things and as mayor rudy. Giuliani who. I'm sure you know about now. Was mayor from one thousand nine hundred four to two thousand one. The revitalization of times square was beginning to change for real and thankfully the pornography industry was changing too. There was definitely a shift that happened. And the giuliani years and that was great for new york. It was that there was a kind of structural shift in the pornography industry because of the development of guess. What home video on this thing called the internet What is that and so. The porno theaters and cds of times square quickly became a thing of the past thankfully after all it was a very old fashioned idea. Dating back to the one thousand nine hundred sixties and seventies whose time had come and thankfully gone it sounds almost quaint now that anyone can call up pornography on their computers or phones the idea of going to a theater in public just sounds hopelessly out of date not to mention germ ridden and unhealthy and this day and age. It was only when times square began to take a turn for the better. That michael eisner. Who served as chairman of the walt disney company. That was actually looking to create live theater. Productions of the company's animated films. And where was he looking to do this. Where else but times square beauty and the beast made it to the palace theater and nineteen ninety. Four and nineteen ninety. Five disney began leasing the new amsterdam theatre on forty second street between seventh and eighth avenues. I wasn't scared anymore. But still there was a sizable amount of crime. Even then even though the times square area candid sixty felonies in nine hundred ninety five. It was a notable decline from the twenty. Three hundred at accumulated in nineteen eighty-four. So it was really improving and one city official at that time said that crime has reached such a low level on forty second street between seventh and eighth avenues. And that's the worst block in the city that we don't keep statistics anymore. There's no need to. And it is noted that most resources acknowledge almost every body recently celebrates times squares revival as one of new york city's greatest recent success stories. And isn't that the truth. Remember it was only a short. While ago that it was well sleazy blighted and crime ridden. Nowadays it is mostly crime-free. It has driven out the prostitutes and the pornographers who made it so seedy and bustles with tourists by day and night and world spanning corporations such as amc disney and viacom prosper within it but if everyone knows about time squares remarkable comeback few understand. What made it happen while the original building project remained stalled. Something surprising happened. Time square started to have a real revival i. It was a trickle of activity and nineteen ninety. Viacom the huge entertainment firm. That owns nickelodeon and mtv. I'm sure you know that. Signed a lease at fifteen fifteen broadway in nineteen ninety-two the publishing giant bertelsmann ag bought fifteen forty broadway from city core in one thousand nine hundred ninety three the morgan stanley investment firm purchased fifteen eighty five broadway from solomon equities and then. The small trickle became a flood and it really was a flood on the last day of mayor. David dinkins administration in nineteen ninety-three by the way. Ps he was not a great mayor. The walt disney company signed a memo of standing with the city to refurbish and reopen the new amsterdam theater. That was in times square and nineteen ninety five. Am see the entertainment conglomerate agreed to move to the neighborhood that was great and madame toussaud's wax museum decided to open a time square branch to join. Its famous london counterpart and then as if that wasn't enough that tishman urban development corporation contract to build a big hotel and the durst organization announced that it would erect a one point. Five million square foot office building taking over one quarter of the side originally intended for times square center. As many recent new york city tourists can see times. Square is no longer a frightening place. It's not. it seems hard to even believe that such a place has made a huge transformation from an area in the city to be avoided to a fantastic. And i do mean really. Great tourist attraction with some wonderful sights to see restaurants bars and sightseeing abound as one of the major stops and many tours of new york city. We new yorkers have seen the year to year changes of times square but even those that have never been to new york. City have seen glimpses of changes as well. A perfect example is dick. Clark's news rockin eve. The annual new year's eve television special broadcast by abc. The special broadcasts primarily are from new york city's times square and prominently features coverage of its annual ball drop event. It's quite a sight along with. Live and prerecorded musical performances by popular musicians. You don't wanna miss it all from times square looking around times square. It's hard to believe this was ever ever a scary dirty disgusting den of iniquity. Now times square is full of life and promise of a city that was destined to become a delight for people of all ages. Now we can only wait for the time when it is full of life again without the scare of a pandemic. This is just a little glimpse of times square and this episode. If you want to know more go to the show notes where. I will have links to all of the things that i spoke about regarding times square. I hope that you enjoy that as well if you have enjoyed this episode of talk tells trivia. That's great i love it. Go talk to house and trivia dot com to get to all my episodes my social media links and there's a little bio on me if you're wondering what i'm all about if you've enjoyed talk tales and trivia. You may very well enjoy growing uncomfortable. Go to growing uncomfortable. Dot com to get to all my episodes my social media links and that little bio was there. If you're wondering what. I'm all about you can email me. At talk. 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The Park

The Complete Guide to Everything

1:02:56 hr | 6 months ago

The Park

"This is a head gum podcast. Welcome sick got everything a podcast about everything I'm one of your host Tom and I'm Tim Tim how're you doing today? Not Good. Okay. Why bad way my friend I'm drinking past finally, catch up with you. Know that hopefully will never happen. On would. Drinking this beer that I don't really like and I have a lot of it and pineapple flavored. Why did you buy a lot of it don't never by? Tim from a guy who's a regular marketing sucker myself you never by a lot of something that's in a new flavor until you're sure you like it. Okay, and then you by as much as you possibly can just in case they get rid of it. Yeah, I didn't know. What I was getting myself into Tom look here. I'M GONNA I'm GonNA blow the surprise. This episode is about the park in this happened when I was out. At, the park with a friend of ours to once again, everybody can see what the title of the episode you're not. Surprised when we announce not a surprise. Fifteen minutes into bit worse. Surprise Addo who would be. Excited, about this apartment missioner's the squirrel. How many squirrels you think you're listed this week now if you're talking about enemies of Scientology Tim probably a lot. So I was in the park with a friend, the other day. A mutual friend, Tom Actually Friends of. Ours okay. And we had a lovely day in the park. Coupled with the baby I was invited. I couldn't go by the way couldn't get I. Just want everybody to know I get invited to places. Yeah. I wasn't left out. You're very much in the mix time. You don't show up all that much these days. Yeah but you're in the mix. I mean, I don't mean that in a negative way i. just feel like you're on the text chains you're on the email chains in your always politely declining yes everything. Okay. At I'm not always politely declining Tim. Ignoring. That's true. Not, just busy busy month. That's all you want. So busy about it come come November I'll be going to the park every day. Having a picnic. It's going to be too God. Damn Cold Nah. I'll bring one of those. Big Fifty Gallon drums that the hobos light on fire. Okay I'm bringing I'm bringing those back. And they have some of them in the park you probably don't have to bring your own. Now they've got like grills have now big fifty gallon drums save trash cans. Yeah. You want all the trash on fire while what do you? What do you think the Hobos? you need to pick and choose the trash lying on fire if you're trying to light a bunch of cans on fire so I can work you're going to be like refined oil you're this is a. I bought a bunch of oil when it was negative Yes. OPEC pay me ten dollars to take this barrel of oil off their hands saying. Picnic. I imagine this will keep us going all throughout the winter. So the Park Day Weinstein close. We're in prospect park. Yeah. In our friend say, Oh, we're going to go. There's a place that does. To go a beer around here, we're going to get some beer to bring back home. Yes, and you know growlers Tom. Yeah This was not that okay. They called a growl or is. Essentially like a jar of beer big jug. It's a jug with a cap that. You can put on real tight. So you'll lose the carbonation and typically That's that's how you buy beer. That's not already prepackaged. If you're going to buy beer that is on tap for use at home, you will use a growl or. Well done, dumb. Yes. These were not growlers they were crowder's. Creepy growlers. That's what I thought and I want nothing to do with the I'm out. There canned growlers their big cans. So this is about thirty, those Heineken. Remember. Those Heineken little kegs that they would sell. Yeah. But this isn't a keg. This is just a can now. And one of they filled what he filled it up. At the top of it. The like screw on there's a way they fill it up with the tap or Guy, and then I was distracted when they put the. To this day I, have I don't like this beer, but I had to go head to go back and buy four happened. Yeah. Yeah and the somehow, and then there's been this thirty two ounce can pineapple beer in my in my? Refrigerator for the last six days. So anyway, what happened was our friends they're they're like I. Don't really WanNa buy beer but. I'll you know it's on our way home on our welcome ah walk with you. Yeah. Halfway to the beer place. They say to each other I don't in my wallet do you have your Wallet Now? Conveniently nobody has a while at. The all time at sounds like they suckered old timmy again. They invited us out to a nice day in the park and gave us the. Wallet my Wallet's Gone One. Wallets gone. Yeah, so they were like, yeah we'll spot for for the beer. Then mo down. And Tom just answer your question. Yes. They van mode me back in A. In a reasonable amount of time. Okay. Maybe not that night but definitely by the next morning. All right. They have young child. They're good for it. I know where they live, threaten them for money all the time. Right one time I broke into their home. Valuables they know what you're capable of. They'll pay you back. They they. They know me Tom. They know me they know my whole deal. Okay. So we get there, and so now I'm footing the bill I wasn't GonNa get. Anything. But now you're taking your car, your wallet and your well Timmy want something now here and I also thought you know. Is it rude if I'm not buying something does that seem like Oh now here here I am buying you a gift want. What I was thinking. Saying to him, who would that be rude to the shopkeeper know our friend why would it be rude to them? Because here he is bringing me to a new I'm new to the area He's bringing. He's showing me a place where they're they're selling this wonderful new crowder product. You. They put beer in can somehow put the top on and. I'm just going to be like, yeah, but nothing for me. Well, why don't you give a shit? I mean in retrospect. Yeah don't think he did. I. Don't think he mattered. I panicked as he was making his order he he ordered I think two or three growlers or. yet right it's a thing drank way home. It's a whole. It's a whole thing. But. So when I did is I just repeated the like I have to get something. So I just repeated the last thing matt he ordered like Oh in one of those whatever's yeah and then I look in there were filling them up and it was one of those things where they were rushing us a lot like the guy a long lines. And so I was like, yeah, one of those and then as he's pouring the beers, I am looking on the menu like what did I just order? FREAKING thirty, two ounces a big thirty, two ounce can of pineapple beer. Fine I don't like it but you know I'll drink I'll be drinking it for the next two hours. I'd like I love pineapple but I don't if ever pineapple beer, I've had a pineapple cider in it's been good. But like I could only drink one of them before it was like, all right, I need something normal to drink here not something. So sweet. What do I have? Two Pints of it should be fine. Yeah. Yeah. It's not that much. Beer ninety grow up how much was it? Like twelve dollars. Like reasonably priced, it's terrible. I saw this video once of A. Like a bootlegging. In China where they were making counterfeit budweisers. And they just had like a big plastic like a huge storage bin like you know you would you put Legos in or something and it was just full of some kind of beer and they had budweiser cans with the tops off and they would just dip it in fill it, and then screw the top on much like you were saying. And apparently, that was they got busted that that was why the video got out and they've been selling an insane amount of counterfeit Budweiser's in China. Tom You. On your free time. And I've not passing judgment here the larger point. Ended up your old computer PC. Navigated over to youtubecom watched a video of Chinese. Counterfeiting. Operation. Well No, I think it was just like an embedded video in an article but I would have happily I would watch documentary about that. I. Know It's just so strange to be even one generation previous us in adult being like I'm going to watch this thing about. Beer in China. We're going to spend even five minutes watching it would have sounded insane. Why would its own insane? Number one, it wouldn't have been possible right Oh. Yeah. Yeah. And just the amount of things that we do with most of our time into any of. That in Nineteen Ninety eight would have sounded insane. Looked him it's. Pertinent to my personal and professional career, I am not saying it's a bad thing but it's also like saying this is a bad thing the amount of time. I spend reading. Missives of a of. A couple sentences that. Just tell me things that make me angry right and I I spent how many hours a day on twitter just re will. It's like if I went back to one thousand, nine like Oh there's this anger APP that does that makes my blood pressure go up and it makes me sad and afraid all the time it's it's pretty much if I had quantify is probably. My biggest most time consuming hobby, and if this were nineteen, Ninety, eight, you the nine, hundred, Ninety, eight, you would say back an angry appetizer. Jim. We just had Labor Day in the United States of America the unofficial and of summer. I always I push back on that. I agree with you. However, I'm just telling you what society you push back on time zones and it it doesn't matter. It's what the majority of the country agrees on. Yeah but I just think it's it's still there's a lot of things in this country that I don't agree with Yeah. That's me. A real rebel in a class. the. The where we're from, they push back the unofficial end of summer. They're keeping like the parks and beaches open a little bit longer long island. Yeah. We'll specifically suffo- county I believe. So yeah, there's that I think that was in. Anticipation of you guys might not be able to go outside for a long talk. It starts getting. Cold Again I. Think. Even. Right now there's I. mean the reason we're talking about the park this week Tom. In not to blue the surprise, but we're talking about the park. But is like you and I never spent any significant time in parks. Now. There is like in the days where there were other things to do other than go to the park. Yeah I I mean I would go to the park 'cause I live fairly close to prospect park I would go there sometimes but how many times a year I don't know it would depend like sometimes I would go through Kinda kicks were I would go there. We can for Yale not for like huge stretches but for like a few weeks in a row. Yeah, I feel like. Me and you and everyone we know have in parks more in the last three months. Then we have cumulatively over the last years Oh yeah. While because now the park will two things I you can go to the park. And, that's the only way me and you have really seen any of our friends. Khazanah about you but I haven't I. Haven't. I've only dined outside once and it wasn't in New York I still don't really feel comfortable doing in New York no and I I just don't feel it's one of those things where it's like. I'm sure it'd be fine but I would just be. Anxious the entire exactly and then for the next two weeks be like man is the sniffle a did this APP did I frigging screw this up? Yeah. It's not worth the mental anguish or well for me it's that I know if I feel like somebody was sitting too close to me, I would say something and that might potentially become a problem where I would not say something and it would ruin and completely negate doing in the first place. So Yeah. I will note Tom You and I did spend some time together outside of best buy the OH. Yeah. That's true We we had a a meet cute. We ran into each other outside of best buy completely randomly a on a Friday afternoon you were leaving best buy I was going into best buy. I gave up and I told my wiped. Out For a walk and like. Well that answers the question that we had of detain walk here I yeah. I suspected you hadn't because you weren't sweaty so. Good. Job. Thanks Tom I walk at a leisurely pace to. Keep, my my body dry I walk very fast and I never realized that that's one of the reasons why I'm like always sweaty and out of breath that I'm usually walking. About as fast as I can without getting into a roth. Yeah I walk very fast. Here I think the reason I wasn't sweat sweaty is because I just fifteen minutes in the best buy in like the AC was blasted just kind of like dried me off but I got home. I. Ran into Tom I will gets you say to my wife. She's Whereas outside best buy she's a fucking of course. Not, fair No of course, we're not going to be like Oh. Yeah. We're we're at the park where like we were doing. So we we were. Cheering. Now. You're buying a chrome cast and I was buying the avengers game for playstation. Beautiful Friday. Afternoon, we were both buying things to plug into our television to distract A. Man Nine hundred ninety eight Tim and it'll be like, yeah, that sounds pretty good. or You could walk the best buy. Holy cow some I will maintain it. Like you did this more than anybody put this is kind of a amongst our friends in high school and college like we're bored on. Saturday. You just call up and be like, Hey, WANNA head over to best buy. We just go in like look at the things at best buy. Yeah. I would never buy anything or very rare. Windy didn't have any money. Yeah. Exactly. Like if I was if I was going to best buy is a team to buy something I was not looking to dilly dally inside of best buy it was looking to buy it and get home as fast as possible to open it and use whatever thing I just bought. Yeah. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, eight time would be really confused about how you know you'd be like look while we before we open it, let's set up the camera and. Do this on boxing video correctly. Yeah. Let's talk to everybody guys. I didn't like my wins to the best buy. there. Was a guy doing the whole like do a whole spiel like, Hey, guys we'll go best buy. Have you ever been to best buy before? Do you know what you're looking for? which. Is Fine or whatever. But the entire time he was just staring at an ipad like he literally never looked up from it and just like well, this is isn't Just. Don't say anything. Either make eye contact like a human being or just let me walk in I know what I'm here for. Best buy employees. Do their jobs to the letter of the law not in the spirit. That's Percent Corrective as a an astute observation. Yes. I don't blame them. There's no, there's no incentive. There's no monetary incentive to. Look up from the IPAD when you're saying the inane thing that like someone incorporate was like well, this will make it seem homey in folksy. Enjoy. Coming here. It'll be like coming home. To a nice Christmas dinner at their parents. House. And especially I didn't get it. I should have looked should have turned around after I walk past to see what was on his ipad but I guarantee was nothing work related they were three customers in the warehouse I store there was nothing going on and look. This didn't actually really piss me off because I. I. Think how terrible it would be to have to physically go to work right right and then also physically go to work in an atmosphere like best buy. Yeah. Where you know do it doesn't seem like A. Job where you're treated real. Great. Yeah. But like I was actually there to buy a not not a inexpensive by the SONOS speaker that was like two hundred dollars or whatever. But like they didn't have anything out, so I had to like flag down a Guy I. Do guys I flagged down I was like, Hey, with this and they were just flat out like Nah. Just can't. Respect that. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's frequently been my experience. At that best buy in particular I did get. There were a lot of people are phones, and that was the one thing whereas I i. that's like one of the few things you can't really avoid going to an electronics store right now if you break your phone or if you need a new phone. So there was a line at the at and T. Kiosk or whatever, which I'm sure was beyond hellish by did get to see some of these new folding phones I. got the see. Behind glass. Leader that neat occur phone while they think next, we'll see it everywhere within the next year When I walked into that best buy I was kind of you know I had I had my eyes on the prize. To get that game, but I was which Yari bought. So I decided to pick up thing. But like halfway through like. Oh Yeah. There's been six months of gadgets that have come out that I haven't seen him person. It's like, no, just get the game and get out of here. Don't WanNA catch a deadly disease. Looking at some fifteen hundred dollar phone, you're never going to buy anyway. Sandy. Objectively stupid. Yeah. No we've spent a good portion of this episode about going to the park. To pass by I'm sure. Neither of US should be during pandemic. We could have ordered that shit online. Got It the next day I kind of audit digitally and downloaded. But I wouldn't have gotten steelcase so. And we wouldn't have run into each other. Yeah. I also to go to target while I was there forget what the hell I need. Atari target it was something I desperately needed. Oh, I need like a car thing. So we went to target and that really sucked, do not recommend going to target right now if you can avoid it. Yeah. I'm with you. I do like going really target in normal times though yeah. But again, the target that we're talking about the Tar Free Day logo, the Atlantic sent Atlantic Center target Oh. It's is one of the worst tar it's got to be one of the worst targets going. A new target, not that far from their town in downtown Brooklyn. Where the Alamo Draft House. Oh. I do know where that target is welcome to our. Our show about. The park. S-? Anyway. You're saying we spent more time in the park and I was and what I was alluding to was the fact that the park is one of the few places we can go to hang out with our friends outside, but then also I was. Like hardcore lamenting actually adds I was sitting in the park this weekend as like. I. Don't have any. Personal outdoor space. And I only know of a few people that do have personal a personal outdoor space in New York City and those people i. it still is not a huge yard. It is not something I would ever be comfortable saying, Hey, can me and tim come sit in your backyard for an hour and a record our show there and I was just getting so mad about thinking of. You know a handful of people in La that I know and podcasters in L. A. and it's like. It disrupted our show a little bit. We had to start recording in the backyard. Or in our parking lot or in the driveway or whatever. And just none of that. Obviously, some people have it but most people in New York City do not have it including me new. Yeah I've been talking about recording an episode in the Park Yeah for awhile in today when you're like Oh, let's do this on, go to the park, service it on the park as we have to do it in the park but. I don't know I then I if I saw two. ASTLES. Set up microphones in the park and start recording a podcast there. And hate them hate their guts? I was I was worried that if we did that, we would start attracting an audience and then all of a sudden it's like wall. Now, we're part of the problem is these people aren't social distancing because they wanna get so close to listen to US talking about. which target in Brooklyn better. Objectively, the downtown Brooklyn is better what is your favorite park in New York City Tom. I know. Look. I moved to New York City picture it the year two, thousand The promise of a new millennium. Yeah. Lay before me. New York University. Weinstein Hall. The freshman dorm right across the street from Washington Square. Park that. Beautiful. Arch. The Fountain the Chessboards Bright. You might know it from ghostbusters big ghost walks under that arch. Yeah Spooky Spooky Park. It's fun park in the year two thousand dollars. A bunch of guys. She'd there I was GonNa say there's a bunch a sketchy guys selling sketchy we'd there. at all hours of the day. Yes. So much so that like I think part of the official. nyu orientation was like, Hey, all right. When you walk through the park, people are GonNa come up to you and goes smoke smoke they're going to be trying to sell you we'd. We urge you please do not buy that. We'd and smoking brother. We'd yeah and they were just like like I think it even official part of the Ra Spiel. If, you need to find real. We'd come to me and I'll tell you where you can get that. Isn't like. Sprayed with hairspray that. Yet. Hurt you yeah. Put Chemicals in your writing I guess everything's chemicals but you know what I mean or or a guy will just take your money and walk away and what are you? GonNa, do about it. Call the cops say a drug dealer stole my money? Now Tom I live near prospect park. The of we better we dealers there. Yeah No there are no. Drugs there's not well, like did. The park you're describing. Washington Square, you're talking about. Yeah. That's like it's called a park, but is really a park. There's a lot of grass. Is sent grass. There's yeah. I'm not talking about the type you put in in a hookah and Toke. I guess. But it's it's a small park. Is, fairly small it's a small park that I would say. The majority of going into that Park are walking through that park, which is nice. It's great that that that say you know in the city in the urban jungle that he can walk through. If you're going from if you're around there, it's cut through the park. That'll be nice. Yeah I don't I don't. I think that might be your. Personal experience with the park that you assume that everybody shares that personal experience. But like I know for a fact that I've hung out in that park for hours on end selling weed to I went I went. Yeah. Well. Yeah. I buying weed and then becoming part of their robust internship program. Working myself on my way up to head we dealer. Well I'm just I mean, I. Know People do go and hang out in that park but I'm just saying but you haven't. So you assume like not as much as the ones that I. I I haven't I've seen people hanging out there. It's just a smaller more compact park than something like a central city essential. Parker Prospect Park, which are both big real big. Yeah well, you know you're a poser, you only like the big parks. I'm no. I'm just saying that that's one of the differences between them. But yes we my favorite parks Yeah. It New York City Central Park a fool if it's not central Park Really Central Park is freaking New York man. You dear to say that home alone to. Partially. Pigeon. Ladies kind of scary to be honest. She is very scary. Goede and it might be because I came to New York. City as a boy with a dollar and a dream from from long island from the old country. And you know you go to central park but it's huge. It's beautiful. There's so much to do in there and there's so much. See they've a Freakin Zoo in there they have concerts in there I've I've been to central park to do so many different things Don't forget when a freaking Christo put the gates there and we all walked around central park under the orange flag things that he put all over the Park Tom Lee listen central park's got it all and if you disagree with me, well, guess what you're wrong go to hell. For over eighty years, frame has been a leader in. The filtration because that's all they do filters WanNa, Protect Your Well oiled machine breathe easier when driving fram filter for every kind of driver frame oil filters are American made tough and feature sure grip technology that needs a no slip grip for easy insult remove even with an oily hand or glove fram cabin air filters filter contaminants like exhaust fumes allergens and pollution, and with the power of arm and Hammer Baking Soda, you can breathe easy with an odorless interior. 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DOT COM Slash Guide to get twenty percents off your first order Sikora. Dot Com slash guide. The park. Tom You asked me my favorite park and you scoffed when I said it was a central park. What's your favorite part of my favorite parks prospect park because it's close to your house? Yeah. That's part of it but it's also nice. I mean my favorite parks. Yosemite National Park. Tim That's a nice is park I've ever been to. Same but I'm GonNa give some preference to a park. I can walk to rather than have to get in a plane and go all the way across the country to get to. You could drive there to our if I've got a what a nine days to do it. To Do I. Guess it's sure I I could probably do in a nine days. I needed to get my car inspected I though I. Don't think you'd need nine days because. I I can only drive for two hours at a time or else I give verdict condition. Yeah. Tim. What are some of the things you like to do in the park legal things? Hey legalize it man. Number. One. Oh God. It sounds like our setting you up. I. Didn't know you had a list I don't have a list. It's going to. Freestyle list like. Lin Manuel Miranda's freestyle supreme. What is that? I think it's an Improv troupe that wraps coup in Scott that that Fella, who? To American history. Of Lin Manuel. Miranda yeah the guy's name I just said He. How is he improvised raps win? There are wraps in the show that are rhyming the same word. Like E in in Hamilton. Whatever the same words that they rhyme they rhyme sir with sir. Multiple Times. Oh Yeah Spoken Guy Who's listening to the first two tracks of the Hamilton Soundtrack Watch it on. Disney plus. It's like, Hey, that's cheating. You can't rhyme one word with the same word. Yeah. You should have he should've gone and booed. I was furious at there is no place for comments on Disney plus. Could you manage? S, pool. Why are there still comment anywhere? Yeah. Haven't we evolved past that. Sometimes. Comments are useful when. What's a website where you go to to find out information that you're like now, let's see what these people are getting up doing the comments sometimes I'll look at the comments on Youtube, if something. Look. Not on I need I'm watching videos. I'm mostly watching tech videos or whatever, and like a lot of times people do leave more information in the comments they're in the top comments in the comments that get voted up Jeez come here real sicko but I don't read comments on like new sites or anything because that's just get a yeah the a headache. Favorite things to do in the park Tom. Number. One a family reunion. Yeah. That's a big park thing. I've never had a family reunion. I've never had one but I've seen them and I know of somebody we know who when we were kids had a family reunion in a park Dan. Yeah with I went to a couple of family reunions. It guess what? Secret I'm not family. Well, I'm somebody else's family. Okay not that family headcorn in everything. But yeah, I mean, that's a good place to do it. Because if you think about like if you're having a big family reunion, we're really like, all right we're GONNA by people. I've never met people. I, don't necessarily like, but we have to invite them. You want to that somebody's house nobody wants to host that. You do it at the park and then you don't have to worry about. Yeah. Boot anybody added there when times up. Well I'm done with this party. I'M GONNA leave he I'm like you. I like my family. Tom. So I'm not thinking am I going to boot win all the way to Ireland for my family reunion him. And they kicked me out leaned if constantly because you got kicked out. Well I thought it was ridiculous. They said you can't be part of this family. You speak American Yay and you grabbed your cousins ass and that was inappropriate and we don't wear. Lucky charms leprechaun outfits here. That's disrespectful. Yeah no Tom the only thing I really like doing it in a park these days I do like I will tell you this. I was actually honestly surprised at how much of my extended family in Ireland. I liked that I was like these people are great. These people are normal. They do interesting things they're not learn. No. Well, like my dad's family. Over here in the US sucks. The like So going over there. Not, all of them but some of them really suck. So going over there us, I guess it's going to be a bunch of people like this and then going over there and it wasn't I was like, Oh this is great but then I did meet a few whereas like Oh you remind me of so and so aright I'm getting Outta here. High tailed it out data that country. Yeah. Back to the old loving embrace of the Middle USA Yup. Uncle Sam's always here to welcome you back with open arms but the park is a great place for this did not happen at apart this happened at a hotel so. Had A best buy. NAVIDAD A best spy it. Tell my family are nurtured. The thing about family reunions reunions in the park, and this isn't limited to family reunions. It's it's encompasses. Children's birthday parties. Yeah. regular kind of barbecues and stuff I? Don't like when I go to the park just to sit and read or to sit with some friends or something, and there's a whole to-do happening where they're setting up a thing and their decorations involve. Yeah and they've they've I've claimed some picnic tables and they're putting out trays of food I'm just like. I'm, not. To this do this on private property so Well, you're famously an asshole and if you're not, if it's not a party that you're apart of than, you hate it and you don't think doesn't have ever attended a party in a park I have a ten I attended a friend of the show Aj's daughter's birthday party in a park I. think that was last summer summer before. Well, maybe you shouldn't have caused the scene the year before that. But that was great like I thought I aid. For Kids having a party in the park was great because these kids just ran around doing other shed and like they entertain themselves. So I could just talk with everybody even though I didn't have a kid. Yeah I honestly I went to the park the other day. And there is a children's birthday party there and they had a Pinata and it was the highlight of the last three months because I haven't done anything and watching kids wail on opinion thought you were gonNA. Say Legal You you've. Got Mad that they couldn't open it up and the highlight the last three months was. Formed over snatched a bat out of a kid's hand. Can you imagine in normal times? Let Alone Cova dimes me storming over or anybody storming over to a children's birthday party to do anything you would be tackled by. Yeah, you you would get the Schick Daddy. With. Daydream turn you into a Pinata Yeah I. Don't like you act like I'm some kind of MISANTHROPE. From anybody else it would be fine but like. From the most anti-social man, I've ever met in my entire life be like you're an asshole. You don't like to see people have fun. It's really. Feel like it's It's worse than the pot calling the kettle black whatever. I look I didn't say that I'm not an asshole and that do like seeing people have fun I'm just I'm just. I'm just trying to you on. So you know what I mostly don't like those big gatherings because I don't eat meat anymore and I don't really like meat but once they start grilling up some delicious barbecue like that's that's the only kind of meat I ever want to eat and I don't know why I don't know what this says about me or what this means, but I'm GONNA. Park I'm usually hungry and then I assume cellist. Food and then I'm also angry because like even if I was eating food and if I was invited here I wouldn't eat this even though it smells so delicious I think it's it's more. It's got more to do with me than it does with the parties and the barbecues. Most of the things you have a problem with. Most of the things that we all have problems with I think if we look inward and and. Investigate a little why we're feeling. Upset or annoyed or anxious I. Think I think you will realize we just work on ourselves. Maybe a little bit maybe we won't have so many problems. So says you. you alluded a little bit kind of having like a picnic in the park. Which is, which is very nice. I don't like going I don't go to the park with the intention to read unless I'm going to the park by myself were dislike with my girlfriend or dog or something. Yeah Yeah I don't have a dog. But Still saying if I'm going somebody else's dog I'm still going to go and probably read right what about sports at the park you ever? What no of course not I wanted to talk a little bit about a picnic. Why was going to say one Tom One tom's park tips. When you go to the park bringing enough food say you're not hungry. Yeah and What did I say earlier? I'm always hungry and apart well, yeah and the only food options are going to be available are either unavailable because there's somebody else's food cooking. Or you know occasionally like a a lady selling ice will come around or something but that's not were the ice cream man but that's gonNa do the trick. Tom Yeah or leave the park. Right Tom This is why you should get behind central park. You buy a hotdog in there That's true. There's vendors in there. Yeah. Yeah, it would be nice. If Prospect Park caddock had a few vendors, I don't feel I feel like you haven't spent a lot of time in central park nine Central Park I'll show you around. Rocks. Yeah, there's you. When I first picked up my dog ginger that was the first. The second place we went was central park. So she probably loves it as she was probably, this is New York, city I've been misled. I thought it was all skyscrapers all the grass I can eat. My. Dog Does love eating grass especially at the park prior to the park this weekend eight, a whole lot of grass. He didn't try to stop her though did you I'll occasionally by hey, that's enough grass. Because as I've told you out of ever mentioned on the show because sometimes chilly lie a lot a really tall grass and then she poops like a rope like a rope comes out and it's all the blades of grass. We've together and one time she did that and it was so impressive feat by the way. So? Yeah. It's kind of like a magic trick. One time it came out. I was so long. It wouldn't come out all the way and I had to step on it and lead her forward. So she would keep walking as my foot held the other end of this grass rope poop to like Yank it out of her body essentially. I can pretty much say whatever we walk gets literally there's not one listener here. Can you imagine though how much that must cleaned her out? Yes fiber that is That's great. But especially, he's my age but especially like that like over rope. I Bet I could I could start one of these Gwyneth Paltrow goop ask things are on my come to Tom's retreat yeat a lot a long grass and then Somebody, Yanks a rope at your but. Wouldn't be me it'd probably have to be me to begin with. Retreat until I got an up enough funds that I could just hire people freelancers to do that part pull the long grass assholes. If it's needed, but here's the secret. It is needed. That's the only way you can tell it really worked. I think I can make a fortune doing this. Feeding people on Grass. Cut the cat out the middleman feed them rope. Ropes to Dave. I've told you a million times ropes too hard to eat. Grass is much easier. Though. Long grass you swallow it Allah all the rope. You can't swallow a rope. I'll put like a bunch I don't know I'll oil up the grass or something butter it up. So it goes down smooth the row. Robes too. 'cause you want it to turn into a rope in your stomach as as all the fibers are coming together and pulling all the old stuff that needs to get out of there. So. Here's my problem with eating in a park number one I'm afraid I'm not afraid I. Oh sounds like somebody's afraid. Man. I don't like eating when there's so many bugs around. Yes. I agree with that I prospect park usually doesn't have too many bugs though I find. That's my number two concern. My number one concern is worth their more bugs in prospect park. It's a little salute to clear bugs. No is your proximity to. Feces Is always closer than I'd like whenever you're sitting down in a park. There's dog shit somewhere and you're going to notice it. He Yeah. I find it hard to eat a sandwich when I'm that close to like open cheered right grosses me out. That's fair. I mean I don't I don't think I the past few times we've gone to the park I don't. I guess maybe I haven't noticed it enough. You don't know you see it at first bright I'm not looking for it because I don't want. Yeah and guess what they're even if it's not currently there, there's been there's been. Feces there wherever you are in a car. Some point. What do you think about sunbathing in the park? I think it's it's good. One time we went to a we had a field trip when I was in. Fourth. Grade. They've been three times I got in trouble when I was child and they're all inconsequential. Incidents Okay like I'm sure I'll be the judge who disciplined me in discipline is a very generous word. Probably didn't remember fifteen minutes later. Burned in my memory guide. One of them was we went to know fourth grade field trip to the park. I think was just towards the end of the year and there were just like I. Don't know GonNa like run around in the part where we're out of the book we been teaching out of ended. The standardized test is over and you're here for another two weeks I don't know. What we're going to. And the high school that day. Also had like a day off or something or is like finals week right right. So Yeah. There were these high school girls in Bikinis in the park Sunbathing in there is a highway right or a main road right next to the park. Okay argyle Park, this Montauk highway. And a car drove by high school poison it. You know it was like a jeep. In. One of these near do will jocks. Screams at the the sunbathing bikini clad girls. Oh my God i WanNa Lick it. And this group of fourth graders I was with my. For We were crab a fourth grade. That's a funny. You might not even completely understand what it refers to say I didn't even really like a little bit understand. I, after a little bit I did but like In. So later on. And friend David comes up to me. Like, I can't believe. A terrorist. Cooler. I think we were lining up to get back. Like hold the rope to walk back to school What happened as co? You must have been like on the other side of the park running around whatever you must be on a top slide or something. Like. And I explained what happened as like these girls Babes right over there somebody they in these guys these teenagers game by the hill the home I got I wanna Lick David was confused right because I think he was like, did they have ice creams early in the in the moment you could tell like it was funny and like tell it was happening. But like a fourth grader relaying that information to another fourth graders, I don't quite understand what's happening right? But. My teacher housing. goody. My teacher. Freakin over heard me say that and she went. Tim. Do you think repeating it is appropriate. God that fucking cut me. And then I was like that's it I'm GonNa, get home they. They will have called my parents. Like. They're going to be stories change that he was me yelling this at these girls. Not even that like. Yeah, that was that was that that's why you're such a prude. Yeah. That was that was a formative experience for me. Wow. I was going to say, I'm generally against Sunday in the park, I've done it 'cause like especially. Times. Where I've been like really into going to the park usually it's been because I've it's the summer and I've realize I'm just I really haven't been outside then like I should try and get a little bit of a Tan and then I take off my shirt. and. Then I'm just like so blindingly white just so uncomfortable insecure about it. And that's the thing whenever I see people sunbathing in the park I. Think they're always in the same situation I am of God it's. July and then my skin is transparent. So it makes me uncomfortable. Because I always see people Sunday, them like Oh God they're gonna get burned. They're burning themselves right now I can almost feel the sunburn happening. You never see like Tan people sunbathing in the park I feel like. Tom. I tell you one thing You have a problem understanding that people do anything differently from the way that you do. You just assume anybody. Well, that's. The Right Way Melissa Unaware the way that you were. I go no nobody could possibly plan to do that because I never planned to do nobody can possibly hang out in Washington Square Park 'cause I've never hung out in Washington no because I on something people do I'm telling you that I've been there and I'll see very pale people land I'll be in the shade they'll be laying Out York baby we're all Pale but they'll be laying out for hours and like they're burning, I can see them turning red they need to get in the shade they need to stop. And I get sunbathing in general. Yeah. It's bad for worth it. Yeah. What are your opinions on bathrooms in the park? The Bathroom Situation Tell you Until like June twenty twenty I've been fortunate enough to avoid them my entire life. Yeah. I've I've been in too many bathroom urban in more bathroom, moorpark bathrooms and I'd like to admit. This year and Tom. Look. I'm not. Wash my hands. I'm not touching a thing I'm not. A toilet walking up to something not touching the door of stall, right? I am. Evacuating my system walking right out of their. Hand sanitizer real. Exactly I'm holding my breath for as long as I possibly can when I go in there. I made the mistake this past weekend. On the way to the bathrooms which was far far walk. I came across the porta-pottys. Now Oh. Boy I win there and same thing I like held my breath I almost fainted began. That doesn't help anybody. WHOA. Yeah. I fainted and fell inside that I would have been you know. If the. Regular Jackass stunt. If they came to emergency services idea please just shoot me please is I don't WanNa live after this. It was it was unimaginable. I couldn't believe how bad it was. It was there is like a nest of toilet paper that was. Like forty layers thick and and that's probably. Doing you a favor. No, it was soaking wet with Piss. Yeah. But it's better than what was under there. Maybe. I. Don't know because then I could see what was inside. It was just really bad and giant. PORTA potty it's and then the whole time I never in your best interest to look at what's in there. There was no reason to there was no I couldn't. I couldn't not look. It was one of those Porta potties to right in the sun was like real bright in there. Yeah but you don't have to look down I did because I like couldn't touch anything and I wanted to pee on something that wouldn't. Back at me. You and then the whole time. Has I'm peeing in there I can hear people outside I get here. Here's PORTA POTTY NO I don't think so I think those are decommissioned or something they look horrible. Now got walk I. No, I, wouldn't there. Then, what if they went inside and they saw everything in there were like Oh that guy did all this? I was just it was horrible I hated it. I we'll do it after the blogs I have something else to talk about park. Related We'll do the plugs and then we'll. Like the sugar. Dot Com support the show. Check out our sponsors also check out patriots dot com slash complete guide for our other show books the podcast this week no books just a movie I watched back to the beach, the movie version of my sister, the serial killer according to him. It wasn't the movie version of it. was. This was a classic beach, read? Right. Section what what are we going to be treated month? Yeah and then what better beach movie then back to the beach it's right there in the title. What about Upton why didn't you have me watch beaches To said, anyone you we all well, thank you I. Appreciate that. Considering, having you watch The beach but I thought you enjoy it. Yeah. Of course. Well, you might be surprised at how I felt about back to the beach and for you to find out, you got give us five dollars. Dot Com slash complete guide false on twitter at complete guide. Follow me on twitter and Instagram at Tom Reynolds. Found the at your pal. Tin. And that's all the gift for this week I want to go on too long. What do you know about grammercy Park in New York. City. One, one of the city's to private parks Yeah. I knew somebody with a key to at one time you did. Yeah So grammercy park is where it's like a near. Twentieth. And Park grammercy yeah. you there are as of twenty twelve, the most recent information, I find three hundred, eighty three keys exists to this park. You need a key to open up the gate to get inside this park park's been around since eighteen, forty four. And it was originally the thirty nine surrounding townhouses that they all chipped in together or whatever, and bought that property and built that park. So it was just for them and it remains to this day just for people that live in obviously those are no longer. townhouses they've been converted or or bulldoze and turned into crazy things but they They're the only people that can go in there. You cannot take photographs inside the park. So there of you not know who the statue in the park is of now. an actor. Edwin booth. Really John Wigs. Yeah. The broader. Yeah. So you're saying, there's some kind of conspiracy park. Jackie Speier John John. To right is like a big actor or the day. Yeah. Why would why would that be a conspiracy you were talking about Grammercy Park Very fascinating part of. Why take put a statue of him in there. It'd be like. George Clooney Statue these days you see him everywhere. Of It'd be like having a George Clooney Statue. Was He the bigger actor of the two or is it just he had you know a career? After gateways assassinated. Edwin was the bigger. Actor as far as as far as I know he was like nationally renowned. Yeah. I mean he was never in a movie. You couldn't have been that big. He. He was on the shortlist he he was considered for the conductor of the train that was coming towards the camera. That was a juicy role for back then. Literally, the only roll back then. The other Private Park Tom Sunnyside Gardens Park. Yeah. He was mere steps from my previous apartment Almost moved into an apartment where I would have had access to. Key to it but I I did not live there. Also found it fascinating. They changed the locks yearly annually. At gramercy Park. If you lose your key, it is one thousand dollars to get a replace. You lose it again it's two thousand dollars. Yeah. I mean how often do you lose a key? Now, plus also like you can go get a copy of that key. Made I'm sure that's probably says do not happy on it Tim I. Got Some Ki's I've maybe I shouldn't be saying this on the podcast I guess I'm keys made up this weekend. They said, do not duplicate guess what I do. Get the feds involved. There is no legally binding thing that you have to listen to that. Tim It's just words whatever gets you through the night We'll see you next week. That was a hit gum podcast.

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Marco Canora, Daves First Chef | The Dave Chang Show

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Marco Canora, Daves First Chef | The Dave Chang Show

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It's a great time to upgrade your pots and Pans Eric. Welcome David David Chiang. Show part of the rear podcast network presented by Major Domo media. Thank you to the great band. Yo La Tango for letting US use their music introduction. This week we have a great guest or one of the best chefs and one of my mentors and good friend Chef Marco Kinara Ron Hearth and the growing business. Nisa Bro which makes delicious absolutely delicious broths but wanted apologize if you hear this and it sounds a little bit wonky. I'm doing this from a hotel on my phone from Western Australia. I'm here for work for the week and didn't have time to do this. Introduction properly so apologies. So I'M GONNA keep this introduction in super short in fact. Hey Google set a timer for two minutes okay. Two minutes and that starting now Marco was is so important in my life because while I had a couple of restaurant jobs before he was a chef that opened up kraft and he was the executive shoe. sous-chef at gramercy tavern any was a protege of time click. You and I don't know of tom gets enough. CREDIT COM click. Yo the original Shefa gramercy tavern because because she had done something that no other American maybe people like Charlie Palmer and Rick Moonen and stuff like that but for me. What Tom was doing was vitally important? Because is he had integrated French concepts and philosophy and European ideas with American ingredients and sensibilities. Why loved cooking so much? Wanted to work for him. And Marco was one of his most successful proteges. And he wound up opening up. Kraft and Marco Thomas so much in that opening team of craft restaurant on nineteenth street east nineteenth street. Still a fantastic restaurant. I felt like I won the lottery because I learned so so much from these amazing shots. Tom Marco Jonathan Benno was begnaud. Dan Sour Canada mascow Ottawa. Damon Wise. The list goes on and on and I don't know if I have my critics say if I didn't work for Marco and he's done some amazing things that he's he's had a restaurant called hearth in the East village if you haven't been check it out one of the reasons. Why because in the East village? And he's got these broncos. It's these broths these bone broth with really delicious. Organic ingredients should check it out and he's got some stands in New York City where you can taste some delicious things and if you hear US drinking drinking something wasn't coffee. He had made us this amazing chicken Coconut Curry Thai Basil Thing Concoction and we drank all of it came in like a Dunkin. Donuts is like a mug coffee thing. And Anyway I digress. It was delicious and just thinking about it makes me want to get and you can also buy some at whole foods frozen. But I think the world of Marco and he's had a terrific career and I think he's come out the the other end but he's in a different place any was when he first started anyway. Want to get to this. PODCAST don't have any opinions fact this week because his I am terribly terribly jetlagged. It's insane so here's my conversation with Marco Nora of restaurant hearth and Bro. I'm with Margaret Kinara chef of hearth founder of Bro. How many locations abro now? We're opening up our fifth on the upper east side this year and I see see it in whole foods and more supermarkets and growing. Yeah we're in grocery. Yep Your name spoken about several times whenever we talk about where I've been. How the hell this all even happen in Marco was my first real chef while I worked at a couple of other places places? It wasn't what I tell. I thought about this as a serious career until I work for Marco and that weirdly enough was a long time ago down two thousand two thousand Jesus and such a strange time. I WanNa later work for you. I want to work for Tom and gramercy tavern was to me like the coolest restaurant because it allows you to Celera celebrate being the American without being completely French and There was like a weird time you had to choose like what clan you wanted to be in loved him right right you gotta choose the clan. Yep You could Daniel blue. You could work for air prepare. You could work for David Boulay. John George John George you had Charlie Palmer. You're in a few others. But like the main groups were that J G Danielle Tucker and I was accepted accepted into that group which was like it was weird and again like I don't know if it gets enough credit for what happened at gramercy Tavern Auburn but it was the first Russian that I could think of that celebrated American American sensibilities and cooking for not in red blooded. American can way but the fact that we were going to try to look at everything through an American presume in ingredients disabilities of it. We still made ten gallons of Bir fondue every day. Yes and I wanted to work for Thomas Cry grammercy but then like I had heard that he's going to open up his own restaurant that got Delayed for variety of reasons that finally opened up in two thousand and you were going to run the kitchen and I also knew. That can't remember was kid kid from cooking school. Remember Jim Jimmy used to work on a whole nother story which you know. Jesus you are the chef at Latino Martha's Arthur's Vineyard Yup everything as much as I could about you and data and came from grammercy came grammercy. Yep you were executive pursue under Johnny Schafer. The and you know it's hard to describe because when we talk about this time we don't have anything like that anymore. In terms terms of a tight knit family like clan. GRAMMERCY team was its own family for sure. I mean how many the and the industry seems smaller than to write. It was like the hardcore line. Cook to shop the J. B. Prince. You know it was like a clan. Feel like it's just it's gotten broader and larger. It's not as intimate as it was but the team that you work with at gramercy you would work with for years. Yeah no one laughs or people left. They came back and I just drank the KOOLADE. And when you guys open up kraft I was. I was like working for mercer kitchen and I was in cooking school and I just thought I was. I was so late to the game. They made no idea what I was doing and old. Were you then twenty two. Yeah what were you thinking running. Not just you now running running. Yeah there was a lot of pressure on you who it was very. It was very stressful. It was high pressure and I came into the game late. You know like I tell tell people like I didn't really get take my first serious line coach job until I was like twenty seven and all the years I worked in kitchens and cooked before that it was really really just the means to like drink booze and eat food and meet girls and it wasn't until my first line cook job coming back to New York after being a San Francisco for for a few years and landing that job at gramercy tavern That's when it all started getting really really serious. Oh my God I was like. I'M GONNA make this my career here and I'm so excited to land a line coach at gramercy and I worked through that kitchen very quickly and You know one of the highlights of my career to this day is still the second New York Times review that happened to gramercy tavern by Ruth. Reichel I cooked all of her fish that she spoke about in her three star review because they had gotten to stars and then they got reviewed and had three stars lying. Cocoa cooked the fish that she wrote about and it was like the most thrilling thing ever for for me. But what you said seems simple in dowager for you but if you're just the following food now or Halford fifteen years you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about gramercy tavern was second restaurant from Danny Meyer Tom Cooking. Yeah was the chef of Manga and this was their first real American duo type thing they were willing Daniel Daniel. Yeah it was. Danny's second restaurant which he said he would never do. Yeah and it got a lot of press on the cover of Matt like New York magazine. Eric in restaurant Tomlin hair. I'm the cover. It was for sure to have the unique craft fondue. Yes God with a lot of chives Chai's insurable and everything and it got to stars we there for that. No I came. I came after was their sense of fuck. We gotta we gotTa Redo this crush it not really man. There was when I when I went into that kitchen for the first time. It was so impressive and so clean and there was so much confidence happening in in that kitchen and I wasn't even really aware of the whole stars and they only had two in any of that I I was. I was bowled over by the vibes in that kitchen itching. Were you surprised how seriously they took it. Yes I was because it was so fucking joke. They were very they were. They were a hundred and ten percent from moment one from morning noon and night it was crazy cleaning in the flat tops and just all that culture that we a lot of people speak of you know it was like it was intense times for sure and you guys got three stars. Yeah which may seem relatively not news today right. Why was it so poor view what was going on? Why getting three stars from Ruth? Why was it so oh significant? Well she was one of the more respected reviewers I think in in all the years at at the New York Times And back then you know. This is like the late nineties indies. You know that was kind of the end all be all right. It's like there's things have kind of there aren't really the gatekeepers once was but back in the day like that. Was it like Doc. If food and wine wrote a story about you or the New York Times Wednesday edition or that New York Times review like that was a game changer for a restaurant Toronto and that was the DNA in the family that ultimately became the family at craft. And before that though you had Thomas ahead of time in a lot of so many things man and I know most people think of them now is doing top chef and stuff but he gave you liberties he's that most would never ever do you know the conception of craft happened over dinner at Union Pacific with Rocko dispirito which is an iconic restaurant that no-no about and I know it was crazy but you know we had the the million plate and all that it was amazing using but It was a simple conceit. It was like Tom and I kinda grew up Italian American families and was like why can't why can't you eat in a restaurant the way we eat at home and just put some shit down the center of the table and everybody eats it. You know And that was the nugget of the idea and it was basically like. Oh and why does the steak house only have to serve like steak and these things like. Why can't you have a restaurant format format that serves all the dishes of great fine dining restaurant but just do it through the Lens of like that center of the Table Steakhouse Style and you know back then? Nobody was doing that and it was a it was a novel idea. And it was funny to see the evolution of that to rikers. We took the Compose your own thing to the nth degree like when we opened there was a nightmare. Oh my God we had like condiments it was like pick your condiment and pick your sauce was what's your venture. Choose your own adventure for everything it was like. I'm surprised we say like pick your sea salt you know. It was insane but before that quickly changed he gave you the freedom to take time off from grammercy. Yeah and open on the on the vineyard that happened. How did you pick your ball? Summer Summers are slow in the city. Always and forever our So that was one thing on my side and look. He was always smart with cultivating talent. And you get a lot of credit today for being that same way. Way Right like working with people cultivating talent and and he was a master of that and like he knew that allowing me to go and open a restaurant from from nothing at my folks bed and breakfast and Martha's vineyard was only GonNa make me a stronger better manager and leader at gramercy when I got back So you know Kudos to him for like having the long view and then it made me better to be the the main guy when we opened up crafts so in that timeframe. You're what like thirty one. Thirty two thirty three. Yeah when you're running. Locker Chino Vineyard. Yes what were some of those dishes dishes that you're working on this is fucking it. I'm crushing it. That's a Larry. Well one of them was one of the dishes at gramercy. Davin back in the day was like the pepper crusted. Tuna am are pepper crust the tuna so I had to pepper across the to nose on Martha's vineyard but I did mind with With punts Annella and I got some like unsalted Tuscan bread and made a really killer Ponzanelli because that was kind of in my DNA. And I put the tuna on the Pont's Annella 'cause sometimes you can tune in it. So that was my house being really ahead of the curve there and with tomato vinaigrette and little dots of really really good Basil Oil that I made from Basil. That was out in the backyard. And that's like I look back at that menu and look at that dishes just me up because I remember conversation later craft because there was discussion if you were GonNa put it on the lavender lamb thing. Oh yeah the grill. LAVENDER lamb chops thing. You want on dude. That was a big one. Yeah I didn't make the menu at craft. I don't know I think it was like A. It was an operational problem because what I did was I. Would I would clean racks. And they'd cut all individual chops and then marinade them and then cover them an olive oil and you had to like melt all the olive oil off of them. Because if you set adam in the walk in and then all of the olive oil quite late and we grilled him and it was just a disaster because it was like hard to get the oil off and they would always flare up and in an environment like craft or there was like seven other meat. Dishes it just didn't operationally. It didn't work. When did you going to take over the kitchen at craft here? I was the guy to start is so like I know when they come to come to you who it was ninety nine. Yeah it was like it was like two years in the making. And I'll tell you some fun months when Jonathan Benno and I were on the payroll the restaurant was kept on getting delayed and we would have our air quotes menu meetings at his apartment in Brooklyn that the fun times. JV I mean that whole team that you assembled and James Tracy Tracy October Damon Karen Moscow and Lorne Dawson Are Yes Liz Chapman. Whose Chapman Dan Sour? Yes Stacey at Higgins. Yeah there was such an amazing crew God and then Modesto's Aso's whole client. Yeah And I just listened to your. I just listened to one of these with the the grit woman who jokes and when you guys were talking about a craft and you said you know it was like who could be the funniest yeah right and like that so resonated with me because like there was like this immense there is this immense intensity but but with that crew they knew where the the lines were and we were able to have an incredibly great time. Everyone here when it lines everyone knew the lines. You're right because you the one where the lines God was brutal brutal but that time I just honest I still feel like I won the lottery. Man It was the me too you I did too. It was an amazing restaurant to open and everyone was so good. Can you believe that. TV knows made no it was it was extraordinary. Even the the service staff Yep Victor to Matthew and Katie Greco Yeah Pretty amazing easing. Yeah in Matthew. Oh so the guy wasn't insane and I knew I had to get there but I was just like I'm never good enough. I just I'm really just starting out and I was working at Mercer Kitchen and again I I just wasn't for me. And then Mark Salafia went to College Mara Raffia via and he was like. Hey I'm a captain here at craft. I know you really love. Tom Wanted to try to get a job here. And I remember coming down to the kitchen so terrified because it's in the basement and then you're rolling Yoki and you looked at me. You're like no can. I know we're good. We're good we're good. We don't need anyone we're good. We're good I was like okay. That's IT and then A. I don't know what came over me to be like you know what. Hey before I leave. Let me see if there's any other positions 'cause just started on veg right now you're on the vegetable have answered follow. No I'm saying when you got in the kitchen was J for other. Who will never let me leave? You Open Oysters really good data but I just when I saw that when I went down it was like A. It's like a fuck like high school and you're in the senior lounge. All the cool kids are there and it was just a whole different vibe people or focus so focused it was just you could tell excellence was be pursued across the board and a product quality loneliness as Asian stock. Leno's the master of that you know. He learned so much from begnaud working with him so closely. Opening the restaurant Making the stocks. Yeah all all of that. It was like the perfect school for for a young co bad. The perfect place to be right crosswords. Noble Shit Yeah. You'RE GONNA you get the best product to the best technique on that keep it keep it as simple in purist Bosnia and everything was the basic building blocks of food so I got. I didn't get to nick stocks. We only made Brown chicken stock at Mercer. But we're making veal Rennie. Dark Yup every kind of talk. Yeah all the bone. Oh man who so much work. Yeah all the braces and I was just like I have to have to be here. Somehow we managed. There's a lot of products rise crazier and five six different kinds of mushrooms. Wasn't saying six seven eight nine types of meat six six seven eight nine types of fish. I mean it was crazy. It was a lot of product. You couldn't afford to do that today. Away right no it's like my game now is like less pro. You know less you know. Make the menu smaller. Because it's like you can't. It's too expensive big team. He had tons of people on my. They can't do any of that today. You have what three people on pastry three. People Karma J s about that six people just on Bassora A and now it's like one guy on Garm. Oh who picks up pastry. Oh my God is so exciting. Because I was like this is where here I need to be and you know what was crazy. I mean I remember reading the Franchisee. Who So many times and then I think Jane like? That's I think I was like. I brought it with me. And he's like you know the on the lobster and that right has the guy and I'm like yeah what that's JV that's the guy. I right there with the bald head. Benos pedigrees extraordinary and I was like this is where I have to be and then I had the only position I could get. There was answering phones to for for like two months yet until I built a current in there. Yeah I built occurs. Here's out I gotta come back down and then you went to cafe balloon right astronauts who to talk to and a half years with you and and that was the battles are awesome times that three Star Review Is Pretty Great William Grind out again like J. B. The next morning he hadn't shaving cream slaughters. You Nisa Shaving his head sued. I don't know if I've ever worked that hard opening that restaurant I remember like mopping floors with Oct Nov.. After like a seventeen hour shift and somehow we ended up we were like mopping floors at like two thirty in the morning. After being there for like sixteen hours you told the story about the sous-chef exact grammercy that was just like so intense about it and I was when I met you in I was like I don't think I've ever met anyone taken something seriously as you take this to felt like lately your life was on the line somehow. Why look back and I'm like I don't understand how it could have taken it also serious? It was crazy how come a long way in my old age like every I just you everyone I know he was insane insane. Yeah I don't know how did that get cultivated. I mean it had to become from Jonathan and I but it's like I don't think it was just you guys. It was just the industry then. Yeah but it was very everything was fucking serious and the investment in that restaurant to write. It was no joke. I mean it was a lot at at stake Tom. Yeah I mean. They spent a lot of money. Garbage dove I'll I know what was called exchange that immediately but again like we can about this whole thing like I just i. I really think about that as I am so blessed. Thank you for all the opportunity. Thank you for the hard talks you would have. And everything was just hilarious. We embark dog. It was it was a serious as it was which is hard to describe how serious it was deadly. We serious yeah. When did have time to be so fun? Can you remember how that happened now. I don't and I think it was like a release valve right. I think the laughter and the fun was just a way to lake. Release a little bit. Because we're all so wound up tight. It was crazy. Yeah I learned so much and I never get that opportunity ever again where you couldn't find out apetit. What restaurant could you learned that like? I wanted to work Saturday mornings. 'cause there's just me and Autar ah I got to cook everything. Yeah get. It started for for for dinner. Service doing all the braces making everything. I learn more that doing that. And I'm like when I think about that opportunity. Yeah well we didn't do lunch rates all day. It was prep like focus crap and we did a lot of charcuterie back then. We're doing one of the things. I was super proud of is making my own Delano to do and I had the metal the Metal Robo Coo and I would like Phil Freezer Sir. I would feel like one gallon freezer bags with ice. I remember duct tape the I would duct tape the ice around the metal bowl of the Robo Coo because I had to get it super cold old so I could whip all the fat into the poor. No you don't have explained to me. I remember that stuff whole pigs. We'd like bone out whole pigs and we would stuff the middle and more at the Dell and roll and and then poached thou and we would like tour shown the entire pig with all the more detail in it and then slice it like Delhi me and it was just so beautiful. I think it's still in the craft. I think that's in the craft book. It's not any it's the recipe that no one ever tried giants duct tape frozen bags of ice surrounding a metal roof right step one duct tape. You're frozen nobody ever made that recipe. Gone all of those. I remember all of that Hsieh. I laughed I went to Japan. That's right and I came back and I didn't know what to do but when I came back it was. Hey Marco's leaving you have planned. Yeah and that that was like Whoa. You help craft steak. Yeah Ben Crafts Bar on in Charleston. But that didn't pan out so then everything started to change range when Benaud and you it really. Yeah Vano decided he was gonNA take the job running moving to California to be back to French on your run per se. That's right and when did you start to plan like you know what I gotta run. Shop Will Katie Greco who was the GM at craft at the time and we opened that restaurant together and built it out altogether. Her husband was Paul Greco And he was like Uber. Serious Wind Guy at gramercy tavern for lots of years and he was I mean he was at gramercy. I Dunno for like six seven years and She kinda was like you guys should talk because you guys would make killer killer team And we did and we you know we worked up plan to try to raise some money and open up a restaurant. We started looking for real estate and and we found that spot on the corner of I twelve. which was Topo is the Mediterranean restaurant? Yeah it was Topo they came from ill BUCO and They opened restaurant called Topo. And it didn't last very long So we got a good deal in that corner. I mean it was pretty I mean what year is that two thousand. It was like two thousand three three open up two thousand two. Yeah we opened into. Yeah exactly so. We signed a lease somewhere two thousand two. What were you thinking like again full of ourselves? We thought it didn't matter we thought. Were you know lake. You could open wherever the fuck and like people are gonNA come. Because it's Paul Greco and Margaret Kinara. Unlike at the end of the day like at this city they can give a shit nobody an unforgiving city but it was. It was weird because it was first avenues at that time was like Siberia ask totally moving restaurant. And you're uh-huh right. You're right but you chase the deals right is still today. You chased deals and you symbol great team in how different opening hearth like what were you thinking. Where were you then? Look we were. I was obsessed us with like you know fine. Dining and three stars and like that was in my brain and Paul Greco had like gramercy tavern three star world and he was super buttoned up and he played that part and got dressed up in his his his beverage programs. were off the hook and like you know I was. I was feeling my oats. It's too like kraft was a huge success from bar was craft bar was delicious and awesome and I was so proud of that and craft was high high. Hi Hi stress and everybody was watching and like we delivered. We won best chef in the country that year. Jane's Beers restaurant restaurant. Sorry the best restaurant in the country James Beard and the and we got a glowing three star review from from grimes. And it's like that's the gold standard back then and everybody chefs to the. Yeah the first. Two years of that restaurant was unreal. Everybody came in everyone David Bowie and Iman and along and Lou Reed and like everybody. Game Rico chaotic reggae. Zik Gwyneth Paltrow. I mean and everybody came to that restaurant the first two years everybody talked about it it was a new concept it was a new thing and we hit it out of the park and you know thanks. Thanks to unbelievable team we had right and it was like. Did you think about the huge moment in my career because it was basically like do I want to go out and raise money and open a restaurant on first than twelfth or do I wanna be like you know the number one guy for the time clicky oh like world. It was a big huge important decision for me And toiled over that decision for a long time because look if I had stayed eight I would still be. I'd probably be a lot of ways way better off like financially explain that because for all intensive purposes. You've you've been wildly successful restaurant. Be Fifteen plus years yeah. Central Ohio is interesting on the other side. Grass is always greener Aaron. I gotTa tell you like it's nothing but you know you often you often refer to sisyphus and it's just like I. I could relate so strongly to that because because it it doesn't get easier. It only gets harder and I think The last twenty years probably would have been in a little less stressful and a little bit more Maybe rewarding from a financial perspective Certainly not from a personal perspective because the biggest pay day for me over the past sixteen years at hearth and growing bro has been and Building Culture and building relationships. And and and fuelling my creativity and having a place to do that and not just creativity through food but creativity through every aspect of running a business. Because I think there's you know people get caught up with the notion of creativity how it has to be about art. But I think there's there's ways to be creative in every aspect of what you do when you run a business And I feel also lucky to have The ability to have outlets to be creative and was worth the stress of. I mean that's the million in dollar question. I don't know it's like sometimes I feel like you know I don't know how you know I worry about the last twenty years of stress and how it's going to manifest as I age because like lately I've been very focused and into my health and I think think it happens to everyone as you get older on fifty one now and it's like I really care about what I eat and I really am conscious about moving every day and I'm super I try to like control control my thinking and meditate and do sauna and I do all this stuff and I really care about it but you know the fact is is like the twenty five years of fucking grinding being in this city and Oh my God I smoked for lots of years and drinking alcohol and not eating well and and the stress of running opening craft and opening hearth and opening. NCAA like those years are behind me. And there's nothing I can do about them now and it's like sometimes I wonder what are the implications of those sack those years of sacrifice. I don't know but you're told that's what you have to do. Get totally like you're in New York. It's the big leagues like you have to grind and you have to push Russian like you know it's funny because there's a backlash against that mentality today and and it's interesting You know you just talked about it the other day I listened to you with Brian couple. Brian your help woman and this idea of like to succeed you have to like which do that and you know. I don't know I would like to debate that. I would like to debate that because I think that it isn't always the best path right. I think that having an I hate this word. It's so cliche but having some semblance of balance where you you have have some emphasis around your habits and your you know your eating habits and your sleeping habits and taking care of your physical self and your mental self I I I believe that ultimately that will allow you to do anything else you try to do better. But there's I think you know you have the work eighty five hours a week. Margot walking sleep four hours a night and work. You know work until you can't stand straight and that's the only way to be great. That's that's fucking bullshit. I don't believe it. I don't know if you could understand that without doing that and honesty like when would you. How was there any? I mean I think about a lot to how was there any other way. Yeah back then honestly there was literally it was so fucking hard man. It was so yeah you did. It have the option to work seven hours right. I mean it was like Oh man I think I should stress was there. You could mitigate against the stress but because Iro file restaurant because you work so hard. Yeah because you cared about the nookie being so fucking perf right right like it. It helped drive the team. And that's how you wanted to do was feel bad for yourself right so collectively. It was like bringing motherfuckers. Let's go legit Ola. No Oh and I don't I think about a lot. There's no way it could have been any other way and I don't think you should feel bad about it because you have a different view of but now I just I just don't believe in the notion of the only way to achieve greatness as by doing that. I think you could be fucking great and not do that too. I really do. I think we're all trying to figure figure out if that is a way. Raga believe it's away right but can you you. You can see that way without going to the dark side. And everything in Star Wars Man. We were the fucking dark side Seth. That was the way it was like vengeance in pain. And we're going to inflict it. We're going to suffer as much as humanly possible to make. The food is delicious as possible. And it's highly effective tip. You get really great results. Yeah but you destroy yourself and everyone else around. Yeah it's not it's not okay and it's just it's not the way of the world today so that's edits over but it's hard to be balanced it. It's harder to be balanced and thoughtful and empathetic than it is to lose your temper. The right the question is do you think that the dining public has become more forgiving. An empathetic no. Not at all in fact I think. Do you think that that's where kind of some of the struggle is. Because everybody everybody we all we all believe in the notion of like having a good life and taking care of everybody and like never but then it's like then it's like this like yeah you know it's got to permeate across the board and it hasn't yet and it's a real problem in a real challenge like I'm challenged with that at hearth every day right because it's like and you say this a lot is like the prices on our menu should be twenty percent more at least at least at least and that would be amazing amazing because then it would be able to treat everybody that much better but if I did that today I would lose thirty percent market share. At least we'll be right back after word from our sponsors. 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Yeah no two stars never got three stars hours or for that matter But but it's like I just had a conversation with a young cook who worked at hearth for awhile and she came in to eat just two nights ago. She opened a restaurant out in Seattle somewhere. And we had this really wonderful conversation And I convinced her took me a while to get there. But it's like you know the thing that matters in this business in my opinion is like giving a shit about the people who walk through your door every night and that's it and like I feel like the world we live in today has taken a lot of power away from the gatekeepers and ultimately that's awesome because you have to build it slow and real and the way to build a slow in real is to like care about the people who come in and like empty their wallets every night when you have to win them over every night and that's all you need to do you don't need to obsess and like I'm so guilty of it because I chased I chased after stars and I chase the night chase and I was disappointed. 'cause I never got him and it's just like it's such a it's such an awful path and it's like I try to encourage to every young cook that will listen to me or anybody. WHO's a Shafir running a business where they could be subjected to this notion of a review system? And it's like Mike you gotta get over it like it's not they. Don't hold the power you know I think about Akhtar too right. Yeah Yeah when. He opened his restaurant at eighth. Street makes still now my God. Is it really me too is so it's funny. You brought that up because that's one of the thorns in my fucking side for sure because that restaurant was so great it was gray was so great it makes me mad makes colonel man to if you're you're not aware Nawab without a doubt and have to ask you is probably one of the best cook you ever worked with in your life. Yep Killing it today. By the way he's would just own nice but man there were some fucking dark darkness in between and I. I couldn't be happier for what he's done and how he reinvented himself. MM sound hundred percent but you know what you can talk about Schubert's all you want and certainly there is a healthy dose. A dose of IT WITH OC tar but it was with everyone because he was fucking can really good and he did everything you know. Let me back up. I look at you guys as my mentors older brother figures. And I've always loved you guys because you did everything the right way. There was never a shred of like compromising integrity. He just was never anything. The open in any fucking recipe. There's no no throw it out. Oh you took shortcut throw it out dude. I kept that I keep that with May to this moment. And however that happened from cleanline- you name it and how you guys respected your elders and things that came before you due respecting the farmers from both vegetables to the people that gave you the meets the whole process was beautiful to me and I was just like this is how it has to be done. Yeah and Ach. Dr Did that and his first restaurant and nobody acknowledged that. And it's just the worst. Are the key rose to the rank spent all his time with. Tom Got accolades after activates and then raised a million dollars. A lot of it loan from family members opens an original restaurant serving his rate bar program at a beautiful design serving his integrity. INDIAN-AMERICAN GROWN UP LOUISVILLE KENTUCKY WITH FILE delicious. who was that Bruni? Someone that was very nice to me he sure will share was yeah And that was hard man and I don't think anyone knew what to do. Oh and that's the thing is like Marco like you did everything right you. You'd literally helped define a neighborhood that existed. Obviously well. Oh before anything else but it turned into you. Help turn the village into a real thing. You know what I mean. Yeah Eh wasn't just trumbull. These pizza I'd like to think it helped you open Momofuku where you did. It is the reason. Yeah we opened up right one and a half blocks away. Yeah Yeah every day I would come up and ask Marco we have a cigarette or something and element on what's going on. Yeah scratch hunter lying on the fucking stupid it because I was just totally in shock what was happening and the only reason I open up there was it was literally a block and a half away from New York. 'cause it was like older brothers up the street street. Yeah and and we're both still there so grazing I'll tell you the truth. If you guys didn't do it the right way. I would have done the same thing I mean like but because you guys had so expertly done it the right way and pay that road so deficiently quite frankly like all of you guys had all the bases covered not just you from Shea Galante Brad Thompson you name it all these shafts did the right fucking thing spent the time when abroad. Whatever Yup and I'm like what fucking room is there for a guy like me and that's literally the truth? If you weren't as good on your niche I'll say but that's the only reason and I think it was hard for me to see the people that taught me how to cook and I think truly are way better at it than me like all I wanted for you guys to do is to like get whatever you guys wanted and it was hard for me to you man. 'CAUSE may not appreciate any of the success that came our way zero a fucking hated it. I remember how miserable you were. It was a shocking to the it was so shocking it suck me. I think you've always struggled with that a little bit. Dave like to figure out a way to like you know enjoy it a bit for Fuck Sake God for people that work in this industry. Can you find joy in this in. Like I'll tell you the truth really hard to now and I'm doing all right I I I really pick my moments and I really like. I really want drinking I still drink. I mean I've never been a big drinker I still I mean it's one of the it's one of the things where I find joy the the fact that I I've lately become in I've tried to notice and have gratitude for all the things. I'm lucky you to have like the other day. I made myself soup for lunch. And it's like I took a bit of the pork sausage in Black Hail Ragu that we have for Brunch and I took some of these big huge beans that were making it on the menu at hearth and I went to the Bodo Window and poured some hearth broth and a heated up and I made this like quick beautiful lunch bowl of soup for lunch. And I'm like I was like this is fucking amazing because so many people are out in the world and they have to buy their lunch. Inch aren't great. And I fell. I had such a moment of gratitude because like I'm surrounded by incredibly healthful well full delicious food all the time and I have great liquor and great wine and great food and great people will around me every day and like that's amazing and I you know so. Is that enough. I'm trying to find the joy in a younger version Margot Argo or the same thing when you look at younger cooks or chefs for the first time. And all they're thinking about is. I will only have validation for for myself if I win a fucking awarded. Now that's I know that's that's my new. That's why I tried to preach everybody not to do that to themselves. No because it's a lie. How do you How do you do that? I know I know I mean that's the whole you know that's the whole notion of mentorship right. It's like you know. Teach try to teach people the lessons before they have to learn it the hard way but do you still love it as much as more than ever. I love it. You know. I've been able to step away and I have of an unbelievable team and Luigi. Petrocelli is like running the kitchen for a Lotta years now and Christine right in the front of the House and like they they treat it like their own and we've created beautiful little family there and I think I'm able to enjoy it because I was able to step away from it. I think that if I was still embedded in the ticket machine at dinner service every night. I'm not sure I would still be able to have kind of a joyful. Will Loving relationship with that restaurant Because that's like a burnout job like to run To literally run the kitchen every night is like just too much so I feel you know I love it because I've been fortunate enough to kind of step away from a little bit. You got me mad to you just thinking about it. I was like I remember talking to critics because I was like dude. Where's your favorite restaurant hearth? There was like Oh. It's a lot like the food across. 'cause that's mark I mean yes. It's Tom's restaurant. Tom Had his vision. Here here here. But it's like craft but it was composed. I'm like thus far kidding. Yeah I when I when I think about it too. It's like it did make me me mad because if they if we can't judge Quality Josh Jeans on and that fucking guy is a lunatic and sourcing early like sourcing ingredients to the point where he makes his own salt right. Wow like a lunatic. And that's why it's so good and so expensive. Whatever but if people people have a hard time judging quality how they are going to understand technique in the tent and I just have always thought you're one of the best chefs honestly because impartial? Because he taught me so much. But how do you feel about doing something. I understand that you are like at another place but I still think it's important to talk about well. Why are you going to be doing something? If you'RE GONNA be judged by people that don't get it and you're not the one that's doing something wrong. Yeah but listen Dave Ivan. I've been simple subtle guy right and that does not re- talk about not resonating with the food critics of the world. It's like and I've always. I've always voiced this opinion and I still believe it and I still say which is restaurant. Critics eat route three hundred times a year. And if you want something to resonate with a critic that's ease out three hundred times a year. It better not be Naqui with butter and cheese and sage right and better not be a perfectly cooked this or a simple that because it's not gonNA in a fucking resonate with you know those critics out there and and that's been me my whole life Lake Cook One way like I love. Simplicity like I love less is more like I love clean. Simple food like one of my dishes forever. It's been a plate of neo key with butter like bets it and sea salt and it's like I don't care how perfect those are. You're not GonNa get an Adam Platt or some other guy who eats out three hundred and twenty times a year to to be like Holy Shit so let's break this down like subtlety with subtlety and simplicity is loss. I can trace that whole fucking God damn recipe. How you grew? It's the same dish. But my God that is like a tolstoy novel just in the now I know it and it makes me weep honest when I think about the beauty of that. Yeah I appreciate Shokhin in and all that stuff all I'm saying is we are appreciating it in the wrong perspective perspective and you should be defined by that dish. 'cause I'll be argue. There are a lot of different ways to make you know for sure. My God Yes tons without trying all the Nokia in the world. I would say that your way of making Yoki is probably the fucking hardest way too. He had had no It went from potato from a traditional yogi recipe. I guess sort of Potato Idaho potato flower two eggs YEP and every which way to boil or baked potatoes. Yeah remember remember how many different ways you decided on a whim you would come in and Marquez's way spinning a towel is move and they'd be like no. We're going to do it. This swipe your in a slice them and you're going to cook them on a preferential age. You know whatever and this time you're gonNA sliced in half and score on this way it would change so much tweaked and learned every day was great and then I was like I think this guy's out of fucking mind but no I was like. Oh He's like it's about the fucking crystals man you gotta get trust. It's true it's true crystals some homework do some homework. You're like No age the potatoes aging the potatoes. True 'cause under melts starch AIDS AIDS them and man like a good day for you. Everyone was like because I will be in charge of cut in the Nokia. How the potatoes crystals? Because the ruin. If it wasn't good service may go off the rails. It's hilarious sure right like little things and you're so in tune with this fucking dish. Three ingredients at the time and the pickup was just butter bramante yet reggiano and salt and pepper locked up. Yeah and then you got you change the cooking method you started. Aj potatoes and then you got rid of eggs yup and then in total sense. 'cause what you've figured I was like man. I figured out how to drive the potatoes. I figured out how to get the star contact content. The goal is to not use any flower at all. Yeah Yeah can you imagine as little flowers needed but the minimum effective dose of flour. Because if you can theoretically turn the potato into star cheap deep that would be the dream. Yeah right I know this. Yeah so every time I've ever had your Gnocchi I'm like manage closer. He's getting closer instituted. Drink yeah and it's literally the heart warming thing for me to know that this thing potato dish over twenty years it is still tweaking towards perfection. And if that's not three stars or fucking the best one of the best stores you ever hear about who you can't get one star a Michelin at hearth okay. It doesn't matter man. People love that restaurant and I love the people that come there and we have such a good group of people like it's so it's so doesn't matter anymore really doesn't I love that place and people love that place which is the best feeling people come in and they're like God gotTa love this place and like that's it that's everything it's incredibly delicious. Yeah simple wholesome soup. YEA rebel leader fucking Christ but you know the for me like my favorite story is like how you know now. I get off on serving a cup cup of broth because it's like this notion of making it simpler and simpler and simpler. It's like there's something about a cup of hearth broth that that is like it's like the the essential nature of that cup. Br Office something like that is getting me so jazzed. So how does this whole broth thing thing happens. Just like 'cause you obsessed it didn't happen craft. It's my NUKII Cup of Broth. When did happen at heart because you always make stocks? Yeah this hearthrow authors the Universal Broth. I've been using since crafts through through do in San may through heart of what the hearth broth. It's no is the broth. I grew up eating as a kid that literally my mother would make this broth for holidays. And it's a you know it's is a big piece of lake tough beef meat. It's like a Turkey drumstick. And it's like a whole stewing hen or you know it would just be like a big nasty chicken and like those three things together with Mir by tomato product Cooked for Pretty Damn longtime and it would just make the most delicious not super like Wadey but thin at the same time because like Irby's like what's the difference between stock and Broth Blah Blah. It's it's like the Italians make broth with more meat in it and the French make broth with more joints and bones so one. It lends itself to reduction because there's more gelatin and the other lends itself to flavor because they like to eat lighter in Italy and it's like the Italian version of hearth broth with a lot of meat in it is like Sesotho so savory and like to sip it is just. I think it's really enjoyable way more Asian right well this. I brought Tom Yum for you. But even still like it's like more meat and then you use something like you make a salad out of the meat or something like that. You have the BRA. Well Yeah we would always make croquettes out of the of the meat further Growing up Fuck Margaret your sister your unique such good food and I just think about all the shoes to do. It's a lot shit you. We came up with. Yeah Blige's yeah. Final why onions fennel celery and onion instead of Cara so free those words at a wanted to like show you this thing. 'cause I just saw it in my local h mart they have a Goya makes the Frito they used to put it in a can the good but now they put it in Now put Jars no-one free toe like retail dude. My dream is to make so the label on this Goya's of free does the the ingredient panel is like. It's really it's really long and and there's not a lot of great things in there and like I wanna do I WANNA do a clean label so Frito man I would. That would be way down and yeah with broth into Frito. You could make so many delicious. Things you made me do Afrita crude-oil yeah pickled sardines that's one of my favorite dishes. They say that was on the opening menu of craft. It's a free cruiser. Also one of my favorite underrated dishes. Oh you did was the brace Frito yes delicious. Yes also problem. My favorite Margaret Roberto Veins in is the is the catalina beans. Yeah that was the old amuse. Yes but just the beans at some when they were hot. The summit yeah simple delicious sneer. Some good food. I mean. We're still doing that hard to see food. Yeah Yup I mean we've even turned up more at hearth earth with like the quality thing like we're only using grass fed butter today. You can talk about downstairs. Talk about this change in like how it all happen. Yup and there was what the shift was was so someone hasn't been in a while like it's all the same but not the same. Yeah well it Kinda shifted when I split with Paul because it started it was like wow I really have an opportunity now to like do whatever I want. It's not like a it doesn't need to be a joint decision because now I had kind of of all the decision rights and and it was on the heels of Bro and the success of Bronco in the positioning of Bro and and I just thought you know I I really really wanNA speak the same language with hearth and hearth had always cared about seasonality in quality. And that's how you know. Craft was like that but I was never never like forward with it in the narrative or in the marketing of the restaurant and I was like you know because you can use it was a given that. Yeah because that is I never did did like these are my farmers and these are my things I always just. I was always a fan of lake. Not saying anything and just being like you know Yoki would did you ever seen. He's got the best shit. Yes exactly but I never talked about it and I was like wait a minute. Like the more I learned about vow. How few people really using the greenmarket and the more? I learn from listening to cook who had like trail around about like things that were going on in the industry. There's some really great restaurants I was like. You know what I feel like I feel like the world is ready to you know and the other thing that made me do it was is the fact that as I started bro as I started getting interested in grocery I was lake. You could walk the aisles of whole foods and I can learn more about all the food on buying and whole foods than I can in the in the fine dining restaurant culture of New York City and I was like I want to I JUST WANNA be. I WANNA be more out with the kinds of things that I'm buying because I always had the approach of I don't need to say it's a given in like we're just getting good stuff and I was like you know what maybe I do. Need to say it. Because I don't think people were connecting the dots. So you know I started talking about the fact that we're milling our own flour in the basement and I started talking about the fact that we're not using commodities butter like we're getting thank grass-fed local grass fed butter and I just started being way more vocal about The raw material Israel choices and it served us well. I also changed the format right. We weren't app an entree because because like my apps we're going to start popping twenty twenty bucks in my entrees. We're GONNA start popping forty dollars if I stayed to that old model of like protein centric entrees and like you. Couldn't you couldn't do it so I was like you know. We got rid of. The APP entree model. Everything was just a plate of food and we started talking a lot more about about you. I know where we got everything and and it was amazing because I watched the demographic of that restaurant change overnight and it went from it went from blue hairs to twenty. somethings in a matter of two three months and it was extraordinary. And I'm really glad I did it because it's like it's the two two point. Oh version of hearth that began at the ten year mark and that was a fun reunion. Do Those L.. My God you were there for that that's right. You were one of the cooks and Tom was doing his lobsters from raw remember. That could his lobsters Larrea area so great fun night. Simple ass fudd night. I have that menu still somewhere in the restaurant. It was an unbelievable night but it's amazing. After ten years we kind of we redid it all and like we launched the brand new restaurant. I mean it's still hard but it's been great. It's been great. We've been busy and people really appreciate. It was the last time you had you know. My favorite recipe actually is reveal breast We haven't had that on the while. You never know why. Well I won't do it today because I can't find good quality veal it's like I wish Roseville became a thing thing in this country. But it's like it's GonNa take four. I mean four story. Does it once in a while. But it's like you know it all goes to Dan Barbara or something. I don't know it's like I can't get my. I can't can't get my hands on good Roseville like grass-fed Mother's milk veal is impossible to get so I don't do. I don't use veal anymore. And we. Jews are meatballs BALSA beef. 'cause I couldn't get a good quality. Veal your Meat Marco Ban all these fucking dishes so good. You're meatballs in fact we need to come and visit US soon. Parking long rebel leader just went on the menu. So you gotta come for your annual. Your annual bowl of Rube Abelida veal breast though talk. That was so good. These are like Oh my God that was good and cramps. Fresh cranberry beans so good. Yeah are are using fresh beans now at the restaurant anymore. Not New York but by ends on the market another staple of Marco that did not understood as your master Tuscan man being eater so many Lorna bean eater. Yeah and fresh beans is something that I hope becomes more recognized. Denies is like a sought after thing. Because like I still don't. There's so many people that don't understand the notion of a fresh shelling being and their extraordinary fresh beans. I'M GONNA BE IN I. You know what just talking right now. One of us are all of us should actually compile a bunch of fucking stories every and they're so funny. Did I tell you the story with Keller and Beto now it is literally the week that crossbar open and like all of a sudden craft bars open. And then your menu with to sage leaves balls in Hammond Taleggio that out of the woods and it just like we had all these new cooks. They're trying to figure out how to get equipment and your veal recorded meatball. So good had someone had taken a equipment off my station and I was like who took it in like James tracers like some one of the nudes over next door so past past run. Run around faulk. I'M GONNA kill this guy can't believe they took my shift and literally. They put a whole next door on in the building. I turned the corner era. And some dude caramel the person's name with my equipment in his we might whatever my knife or something and his left hand kissed me the and it was all the meatballs GRANDPA. They was bringing down for whatever reason and they all flew all over the place. I mean balls everywhere. Marco's delicious meatballs stuck everywhere in covered in red sauce. And the whole time it was like I'm like how do I go to miss that one. Yeah Years I I'm hearing this story and I was like 'cause back. I don't remember like October and would like to aprons because you get in trouble of you dirty and I was like. I don't have time for member that you'd I have four glean aprons on one. That's hilarious. It might turn the corner and I see God. It's Thomas Keller Jonathan Benno sitting sitting right there in front of me and I'm like covered in sauce or no. No what do I do. I don't why can't walk away way to anything. What am I supposed to do? So don't even have a place to my dirty hand and Jonathan Davie Goes Chef Chef David Chang and he reaches out his hand. I have tomato sauce all over my hand. I shake his hand and so I will have your meat. Balls will always be synonymous with meeting chef Keller with minerals in my face in hair on drinking this broth in it's delicious. This is what the time young. It's a it's coconut milk curry spice from Our friend at Lewa and LEUR And Lime juice and Chili. It will make it like Alan Minute at the shop. Where the locations in New York He's still in the first one in West village so upper west and soon upper east. Wow we have a six month year kiosk at astor place and what what. What's the move if you haven't been to a broader store? Would you do so basically think of it as a coffee shop and instead of serving coffee were serving broth so we serve broth in a small enlarge cups with sicklids And you could treat those. We have four different broth and then you could treat them with all these different combos an atom. So this is the Tom Yum. And there's also the spicy no which is roasted garlic and Chili In the deeply rooted is to Merick Ginger. So we have fun with is like it's very easy as a chef for so long to come up with things to add to broth like we froth it with different butters and different Geeze and So there's so many things things that you can incorporate into this simple cup of broth to make all kinds of flavorful drinks. So here's your opportunity to talk shit about all the fucking competitors. So you're when you're going to Russia talker. I know you're fucking Shit. Talk avoid you are look. I'm not going there. Come on I'm not going to name any names. Don't Lanier aims why everyone on. What kind of shortcuts does everyone else take that you don't okay? Well there's a lot of them. I am so. The vast majority of broth in the marketplace is made by buying base which is essentially like a period version of Leon Cube. And you put the base into a big big big big pie and you add water and you cook it for like an hour and then you have like a ton of broth that you just label and put it into into a box or a can or whatever and that's like the vast majority of broth in the in the commercial market is that and if they do decide to cook it for real will. Are they buying the products that you buy. I mean look. I don't know how everybody else is doing it. I could tell you that You know how they say when you don't know what you're doing sometimes you do things and you know because you're stupid and you don't know and it's like we we fill pots. Yes with bones. I mean I make broth. We make broth commercially. The way you craft. That's all I know right and like I'm doing that now. and a lot of people are like you're out of your fucking mind but I'm kind of like I was one of. There's only one there's only one I mean. Look the the only way I know how to make Brian. Nobody's GonNa tell me like. Oh well if you want to sell it here then it means you have to make it this way. And it's like I refuse to believe and so it down with Marco advice like you're out of your mind you can't do at this scale but you are and we are and that's why not changing and you never get an I just just. You've never taken a fucking shortcut man. Don't even with this. You're buying the best. You're cooking the same way we would do would that you taught me how how to do it. It's how we make it and that's why the only way to make it. Yeah it is delicious and I hope that at the end of the day. It's hard though because in a grocery setting you can't taste stuff stuff so you know it's hard to it's hard to educate in that channel but we are all in on it and You know I'd like to believe that it's is all about people you know you have to repurchase it right so people will try it but they have to love it to buy it again and like. That's the key to like building something in a grocery channel. I believe in hope so the hope is that little by little people will try it and be like Holy Shit this does taste different. What are the size? Is it being delicious right which it is. Yeah what are the Hellenists. Yeah I mean. They're so they're so long. Like I like to get out out of the functional. You know there's a ton of functional benefits to good broth but one of the one of the things that I kind of hone in on is like I want this I get. I want this to be a hack for people to cook more at home because like I believe cooking for your family and cooking for your friend and cooking for yourself. L. Fear on food is one of the best things you can do for your mind and your body and your health and having a good quality broth available to you to insert into your cooking at home is one of the best time hacks there is so I would say the biggest benefit is to understand what it means to the have broth as a staple in your kitchen and that will lead to tons of benefits functional and otherwise But if you if it's like health and wellness conversation the station. All the benefit comes from the amino acids structure that is in that collagen protein. There's L. Blue Demean in there and there's glycemic in there and there's a lot of studies ladies despite a lot of people saying there's proof about Roth there's proof about the elements of broth and there's plenty of studies about blazing and there's plenty have studies about El Gouna mean to things that are very prominent in in our broth and traditionally made broth. And it's like it helps heal your gut lining and It helps lubricate your joints and it helps hydrate yourself Helps you recover. Well it helps you produce more Collagen in in your body and it's just like it's insane. How many benefits there are and the other thing I like to say and I'm going to take advantage of being on your show to say this? It's like people have been consuming traditionally made broth on every corner of the world for hundreds and hundreds of years and like for me. That's enough like I don't I don't need. I don't need a study like everybody wants to debate about what to eat. And what not to eat. And whatever and it's like I would dare say we should look at what we've been eating humans for a lot of years on every corner of the globe to drive decisions and broth is something thing we've been consuming for hundreds and hundreds of years on every corner of the globe and we need to get back to it because it's very valuable for cooking for health and delicious. Yeah I say the world's first comfort food is like it's as comforting as Mac and cheese except it's really fucking good for you cups. We just had had four. It's delicious and I didn't know I thought he was bringing Dunkin. donuts coffee Mug but giant Gallon Jug. Doug abroad that. We've now it's delicious. It's delicious and we're shipping it e-commerce too. So Oh you said you had a discount. Yeah Dave fifteen fifteen percent off bro. Dot Com Bro. Dot Com. Dave fifteen fifteen dave fifteen and ship ship it to you anywhere in the US. Good for the holidays. Good for Thanksgiving dinner gas them a recipe. Before your broth for Thanksgiving there will just make a ruin at hearth broth to it. And then put some chops age and Rosemary. And you've got an unbelievable gravy done. If you don't make it your a loser Marco Chef thank you so much. Always have to call chef but I appreciate it. It's been it's been great. I've been hoping that we were going to have this conversation at some point. It's we could talk a a lot more fucking insane. Shit I just want to say I share your Your love of Jeremy Fox. You mentioned how he just got reviewed a Birdie Birdie. I mean I like you. You're you know. I have admired that guy from afar for so long. And he is like he is an hi conic figure in my mind in terms of somebody to emulate and his cooking and his devotion is extraordinary. So I just wanted to kind of jump on that on that Waga with you and say that fucking guy is unbelievable and the shift. He's gone through one of if not America's greatest greatest talents. Yeah for sure. One hundred percent agree so you know I know you've been a huge fan of his and Checkout Fox's restaurant Checkout Marco's restaurant hearth and all the broader locations bro Dot COM Yup Dave Fifteen fifteen percent off and If you make the recipe for Thanksgiving thanksgiving it's the rue bro Roth. 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Austin 1998/1999

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

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Austin 1998/1999

"Hang a scanner at Thompson. You're listening to something to wrestle with Bruce Bridgford. Bruce was going. Oh, man. How are you? I am recovering Romo wrestlemainia hangover, man. How did it feel after all this time? They back to the side when all the craziness wrestlemania weekend. Zossen is probably the best word that I can use to describe it. So it's all good, man. It's all good. It was a helluva helluva week. Helluva last ten twelve days wherever the hell has been. Well, we all the fun. We had a hell of a good time last week at both our show JBL Grammercy. And of course, Dan, Soder and Shula. Joined us was always a good time. And then something rather unique with full JR. Maybe the last time Monday right after all pretty good trip to New York. What did you think of the show last week with Michael Hayes, the the subject? Well, I enjoyed talking about Michael Hayes is Michael Hayes been a longtime friend the bow ver good God almost forty years of scare even think about and I love tell the Michael Hayes story. Dave, Dave, Dave. And I think that they got everybody got their entire deep doo doo fill last week. Our Michael Hayes episode, and it was fun to record in real studio. That was nice to. Yeah. Absolutely shot up tips avian all folks over Westwood One. Hooked up especially thanks to Robert Mathers, everybody who made it possible. And today we're coming see a little differently. I don't know here. Getting ready for star cats on actually Caesar's palace in Las Vegas. So if you're wondering Conrad sound a little different this way. Well, there you go. We'll be back to a regular schedule studios next week. But what we're talking about this week is stone cold Steve Austin, a while back tees we were gonna do ninety seven ninety eight ninety nine and we only got a chance to do ninety seven. So we're gonna pick up where we left off. And this is going to be fun because it's a banner year for stone cold Steve Austin, of course, in nineteen ninety eight and I guess before we get started which tell everybody about how they can have abandoned ear because the secret is out guys if you want healthy sex all your body needs nitric oxide, and now you can boost your nitric oxide production faster than you thought possible with aids mail max, the absurdly fast formula from the number one brand in male enhancement. You'll be clinically tested ingredients that rapidly boost nitric oxide production, and it won't go unnoticed chap me up here. Bruce, how much you enjoy in your aides this male max Layla. I feel absolutely agents. And yeah, hey, man is great. Get your clinically tested, greedy and safe the glacier nitric oxide production and feel better quite frankly in ages male Max's already taken WalMart by storm. 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Either way we hope you enjoy promo code that civil funniest in the business ram seventy eight seventy nine seventy nine. Let's get going the Royal rumble nine hundred ninety eight goes, Dan, January eighteenth right there in San Jose, California. Also, of course is in this rumble. Massey comes in at number twenty four he eliminates eight ball. Marc Mero Thrasher, comma, Saab yoga chains and finally the rock to win the Royal rumble in the next night on raw we see a huge angle that really cement, Steve as the top guy, perhaps not send the WBF, but maybe in the business. Of course, we're talking about the Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson wasn't attendance at the Royal rumble. He took it in a box with the Shane McMahon. And then they promoted that he would have an announcement about his role wrestlemainia fourteen raw so later in the show on Monday. Fire all vents brings out Tyson of the ring, and what he's about tonight announced whatever might Tyson's role is gonna be wrestlemainia. This is near the end of the show. Austin comes out as music kits and it is a huge reaction by the crowd hair. And Austin says he sick Tyson Schick in everybody's hands. And he refused to shake Tyson's hand and also step in this rank your muscle will stone cold Steve Austin. And that's something you don't do. I wanna pace of Mike Tyson's as he says it could be Tyson every night of the week in twice on Sunday. Which was always a favorite awesome. As of mine, and then he has the famous photo off or a says Tyson didn't understand him. He's got a little sign language for him and gives him the double the double bird, of course, Tyson's pissed about this shoves Austin and a brawl breaks out Tyson's quickly hill back also has dragged out of the ring and. Mcmahon really goes in overdraw here just frothing with anger. You know about how you ruined everything. Taking swipes at awesome, really, really good stuff. After a commercial break that go backstage where Tyson was pointing his finger in McMahon's chess yelling at him to bring that bad word ass Allston out and McMahon stammered answered started slaughter, and Dave Hefner just sort of take it all in now. In hindsight. We is recipe. Probably remember, oh, this was a big moment. But then we just sorta go onto the next week because we're just conditioned to watch wrestling, but the mainstream took paid attention to this, and and in really really focused on this in a way, they haven't done for the WWF NA along longtime take us back to that night. The famous show, you know, the double bird the whole segment. I mean, this is WWF magic here is on. Definitely. And this was all setup, you know, Mike Tyson refereeing the championship match wrestlemainia in Boston. And frankly, you know, we knew that Mike Tyson being WW ring was going to be huge in that was going to be one of those moments that everybody is going to gravitate to Mike Tyson. Go to wrestle what's he gonna do? Oh my God. No. They're gonna do something. We had a very limited number of dates on Mike Tyson when we first went into this. And the idea was let's let's play it out. Let's see what kind of reaction that we get. And we'll take it from there when Tyson went out, I think that we may be had. Maybe two more dates on him before wrestlemainia maybe three, but it was those were promotional opportunities. He was going to appear on the show couple times. And then one of those press conference in all this other stuff. So Shane McMahon had been with Mike the entire time. And he kind of been the liaison to Mike Tyson. If you will when we got there, this was meant we had lightning in a bottle. Steve Austin was the hottest thing in the business. We just didn't realize that he was getting ready to come the hottest thing. Just in general. Everybody was going to be talking about stone cold Steve Austin. So when this happened, I'll never forget couple things man when if you watch closely you'll see money flying all over the rain when they get into the Chevy match and everybody's holding Steve back and everybody. Is holding Tyson back because Tyson had roughly twenty thousand dollars cash in his rest pockets of his suit in it all went flying. When everybody's pulling him back and everything and all the guys you see some of the guys down on the mass. They're scrambling picking up hundred dollar bills and everything all over the place. So when might gets back, it was very surreal moment because Jim Rawson I walked into the locker room where Mike was Mike was how do I say this? Cutting a damp promo on his people. Just chewing their asses out. Like, you wouldn't believe for what I'm not really sure. But he was like make sure all my money's here, man. And and blah, blah, blah. And when we walked in Mike completely the switch turn. And he started apologizing. I'm sorry. You guys have see that. I'm normally not like that. But these guys know better, and we were like, hey, you're taking care of business. Saw good. Everybody was on such a high after that took place. I remember bents coming back. We're on the we were on the west coast there and looking at it going guys, I think we need more dates and Vincent I went into a room off of his office in just started mapping. Ow. Tyson things in where we could do because originally man, this was going to be it for a while that was his one day. And then we'll get to the announcement. Then we'll do something else had him on TV but all of that other stuff. And Vince Russo was involved in far creative with a lot of that stuff that the DX stuff with Mike Tyson. But none of that was planned way far in advance. That was just something the feel of having lightning on a bottle that night in that moment of Mike Tyson, delivering feeling the energy off that crowd than it was this is a lot bigger we ever thought it would be we knew we had Tyson. We knew that we were going to do something but off of that energy in that just the. The meshing of Tyson in some call. We knew we had some special. Well, you didn't he ends up in special when you turn on any radio station, the next morning, any television news station, even your cable news, FOX Ford's. Sportscenter all your newspapers, the AP USA today, even all the magazines and the press and Japan that Mike Tyson would bring I mean, it's phenomenal. And people are even suggesting that perhaps. Mike Tyson is not going to be a referee, and he is going to actually participate in a match with Steve Austin, which is pretty crazy. And you you sorta shot that down on the network show. Okay. So let's get forward to the wrestlemania fourteen press conference that goes on February fifth at the all star cafe in New York City, and these wrestlemainia press conferences were always kinda fun, Austin and Michaels wound up having a face to face confrontation Tyson gets in the middle of them in the high appear is crazy. There's more attention on this than ever before. I guess we should mention the no way out pay per view, which we've done and it's available in the archives. You can check it out whenever you'd like. It's over at something wrestle dot com. That goes down on February fifteenth and happens in Houston, Texas, Steve Austin is in this match on one side and on the other Shawn Michaels was supposed to be there. But he can't be he's injured. So. So what we get is Austin chainsaw, Charlie cactus, Jack, Owen Hart, and then they're gonna beat hunter. Billy gone Jesse James at salvio Vega on I go, seventeen minutes and forty one seconds. The crowd was not happy with the Savia Vega announced one. I think that people were thinking it would be someone else. But of course, I wound up being Sabato three and a half stars on. Oh, we've covered this long form. But very briefly what stands out to you the most about that match. No way out ninety eight. I'll tell you the one thing that stands out most about that match was back at Soviet. Brought barbed wire down to the ring in Vince went crazy because no one run it by him in that was knows well as crazy matches anyway. But he's like what the hell is that? Barbed wire. Somebody hit asked him in a vacuum at some point. Is this okay can Sabato bring a weapon? That's what they brought. And there was no just was no getting it back. Once it was out. There is is I've had with my words. Sometimes it's me, we're Otit it's already there. And you can't take it back. That is one thing that stood out more than anything. They shit all over in that replacement. They want to something bigger and better than Shawn Michaels. And unfortunately in this instance, we weren't able to deliver that. So talk to me a little bit about the feedback. You may have gotten for some calls. Steve. Austin stunning China. What's the situation there? You know, like, of course, these days entered into wrestling kind of a hot topic. You haven't done a ton of yet here. But obviously Chana had a lot of heat Austin's white-hot that anybody say, I don't know if that's a good idea. Not at the time. And I think that China was kind of viewed. Through a different lens. They looked to China and China liked to compete with the man. And I think it was almost accepted. Plus you go back. There was a day in time. You look at Sherri, Martel and good God. She used to take a backdrops and atomic drops in everything under the sun from the guys very active. So this was another kind of situation where it was off. And it was Steve stunning China, and they felt that that was an exclamation point to the match something you wouldn't do today. But it's it was a different time in a different character in China. So let's get to the March ninth raw Vince is going to interview Austin in the ring and Austin's going to say, you know, the Vincent's following Tyson around like a puppy dog. Mcmahon says something like, you know, calling Tyson the bass man on the planet is just figure of speech Austin says so is this gives them the middle finger, and then he does the whole high. If you want me to be WBF champion. Gimme a hill yet in the crowd explodes. Eventually we see a little bit physicality here where he rips McMahon suit jacket and McMahon leaves the ring swearing Austin will pay and the March nine thrall also sees McMahon walkout to a chorus of boos and his interviewed by Kevin Kelly and ace talking about what Austin's conduct was last week on the show calling on professional any considers it somewhat justified by Mike Tyson, joining DX and Vince seems. To get sort of tired here of Kevin Kelly going back to last week's footage saying he didn't hit Steve last week because he wanted to save the wrestlemainia made event, and it would have broken Austin's jaw. So we started to really see more of this Mr McMahon character come out here. And of course, he's saying, you know, it's not a no as to whether or not he wants Austin to be the champ. But hell, no. So this is before wrestlemania you. But we're still in March the month where the wind is gonna happen. How far in advance? Did you guys realize? Hey McMahon Austin is the money and at that point. Did you think that there would ever be a an entering payoff? Or would it always just be sort of the, you know, the the he'll general manager type situations. No didn't even really think that at this point. This was more of putting bents in promoter role and let events in many ways. As be himself. So he was put out there as a former commentator. He had the heat already from the whole Bret Hart Montreal situation and now. He was being used to promote manny's promoting wrestlemainia. And he did it with that. He'll slant that he naturally does. It wasn't again still man, we didn't get to the whole McMahon Austin thing for a while to realize damn could we get into a match this point wasn't even in anyone's thinking in any way, shape or form getting Vince to be a promoter hype stern pitch, man. Okay. Yeah. It can be a heel. And do it with the he'll slant be yourself. It's gone out and have fun, but to to think, okay, we're planting the seeds for Austin McMahon. Absolutely. Not even close to this point. Talk to me a little bit about this interview with Vincent man, Vince, really hits a home run here half. Quickly. Does everybody else realize I Vince is our best to you? Oh boy. That is our best. He'll for from. We have perspective. I mean, he's going to become the biggest invest he'll in the business here for a while as not I mean, he's certainly got you know, the most eyeballs I mean, very very soon. This angle is going to be what takes the company from second place to win in the race. And it's the main character that helps make that happen. Obviously, you know, it takes two to Tango. But much like, it's a, you know, a Roddy piper to whole Cogan while Steve Austin needed a Mr McMahon here. Yes. He did. We just didn't really realize it at that time. And there were a lot of us me included that fell. Vance was a natural. He'll. In would be very well suited to be an on air character as a he'll he's he's a natural at it. And as time went on is where you just couldn't get away from you couldn't deny Vince had the heat for Montreal everyone blamed him he came out from behind the curtain. You know, now, the almighty Oz is in front of the curtain and pulling the strings so it was it was just a unique time as we got closer. You also have to understand too. You had Shawn and Shawn had tremendous amount of heat. So. Vince didn't wanna step on Sean city. And Vince was just trying to do what be that carnival Barker be that promoter. Be that promoted is going to do whatever it takes to get that attraction in the ring come Elmer high watt and also feeling that, you know, stone cold Steve Austin. He's a loose cannon. The son of a bitch can not be controlled. And I can't have him being at the forefront of our biscuits. So you have all of these things going on never really thinking. Okay. Back up. We're going to go into summer, still cold. Steve Austin, Mr McMahon. I always say the talent if you if you perform in a way in you get over that they can't deny you the nobody can stop you. And I don't say, unfortunately Essen. Fortunately, that's what happened with Vince. You couldn't deny that he was one of the best performers after in. He was the hottest. He'll that we have. So we'll keep it going here March seventeenth on Ross the go home show for wrestlemania Austin is gonna pin the rock here. Clean with the stunner. It's pretty ironic that this happens one week before wrestlemania fourteen fast forward a year to wrestle in fifteen. And that's the main event, let's talk about the main of wrestlemania fourteen we've covered this very briefly before on our WB network show. Steve Austin is going to get the win over Shawn Michaels just over twenty minutes. He wins the world title here in. This is Sean Michael swan song for a little bit. And there's a whole back story about getting smashed in the ring from Sean Michael Saad that we'll talk about another time. I know that they had been trying to work this match as much as I could on the hash shows, but it just wasn't possible. Because Sean was so injured. So essentially what the match they they wanted to working is the same match that Austin had had. Had with one hundred hundred homes -ly on the house show. Loops it wasn't a bad batch. But it wasn't what it probably could have been had Sean been one hundred percent. It's still men's to get three and a quarter stars. And they got the big reveal of Mike Tyson not being the super villain that maybe people thought he was going to be and he joins cold stone here at the end and knocks out. Shawn Michaels when you think about, you know, this match in certainly the the post-match with Mike Tyson end individual of Austin, climbing, turn buckles with at winged eagle championship that, you know, everybody from Bret Hart hulk HOGAN and everyone in between had hailed win over going to debut a new Bill the next night. But what did I was in the fleet center visual? It was in a did feel different. It did feel like a passing of the guard in the beginning of new era in JR or had a great call. There were says this is the Austin era. And I don't think anybody really knew what that meant at the time. It probably sounded like, you know, the appropriate thing say, but it was true. Your bats be hotter than you've ever been in a lot of people would circle back to that match. Wrestlemania fourteen is kicking off point with the not. Yes. And that it really was in you go back to again, I go back to that night with the shove with Steve Austin in thinking holy shit. We when we change everything with my all these eyeballs were on us in Eric Bischoff. Even talks about how he knew when it was over was when we got Mike Tyson and that made all the difference in the world. And that got so many brand new eyeballs on us and people going what's happening over here. Then you've got Austin who is stone cold Steve Austin. He was on fire. I had never at least in in my time in the wrestling business. I'd never seen anyone. That that over is stone cold Steve Austin, and you go back, and you think of the time in the eighties with hulk HOGAN, hulk HOGAN was electric man that that was August bump moments for me getting to perform with him in seeing that that was that was great. And I don't think anybody will replicate that same thing. I don't think anyone will ever replicate. The rise in the field of stone cold Steve Austin in Austin, three sixteen and how he just revolutionized so many things in the business in change the way people looked at the wrestling business in WWE in particular. Something else. And you know, Steve Austin had obviously have quite the journey to get there. You know, a had a little stint world class had a run WCW. And a lot of people thought he was probably one of the best wrestlers in the world when he was they are but plagued with injuries. It's fired. By FedEx manages to pop up AC w for a little bit. Even though I can't work a lot of matches. And before you know what? Hey abuse, the WB with maybe a less than awesome gimmick. Fines his voice in the summer of ninety six and fast forward less than two years here. And the stone poker Akhter has brought him the greatest prize in all of wrestling the main event wrestlemainia and a world title win in that main event quite a journey to get here in damn near broken neck. You know, just a handful a month prior to that maybe risks at all and under the awesome has a hard shale. But the people who know him so that when he had to know him. That that that's a different Steve chat me up. Did you ever have a conversation with him about what it meant for him to be in the main event of wrestlemania and win the world title? It's gonna feel like validation for something. He fell a long time that he was misused misunderstood underutilized and maybe under appreciated and now that's not the case. He's the top dog. I you could sum up in my opinion the way St. fell by saying Proust. There was a lot of pride there. Steve work so hard to get where he was in. He had a few false starts in their. Unfortunately, you know with the next stuff, but he never gave up and he kept going, and it seemed like every setback he would come back stronger than he was before. I go back and told the story, but I go back to the time when I was coming in was going to go to work for WCW. And I said to dusty give me Steve Austin. I think Steve Austin could be the end of your a world heavyweight champion and dusty comeback bitter that the Beckley where I wanna go wanna go. I think I can see him if champion you've got to work as way up, but even then nineteen ninety two or ninety three whatever was ninety two. People were talking about Steve Austin being a world champion. All the ups and downs that he had in WCW the Hollywood blonds, the nobody I don't think anybody took them seriously Steve made at work all the time. Save of come up and talk to us, and it just didn't work out for whatever reason Steve in like our style. Vincent, unlike him all those things that happen. It all culminates wrestlemainia when he becomes the man he becomes this is the guy that's going to lead us into the future. And that was a sense. I think of Steve of pride everything that he had been through all of the doubters all of the naysayers that now he standing there with the championship and to him that was that wasn't the ending to him. That was the beginning watch what we do now, and it, and it was a lot of pride with Stephen. I think that he felt vindicated felt that all right motherfucker style. Watch this. So let's talk about it. The next night on raw he comes out with the belt McMahon's already of the rain with a new Bill McMahon Shaw backpedal some of his statements. You know, they wanted to clarify what he said about not wanting him to be the world champion, you know, they're going back and forth. Then they eventually get into, you know, easy, way or hard way. And Austin asked the crowd, they want the hard if they wanted to do it the hard way in of course, Ohio. Yeah. And we're off to the racist with the awesome McMahon feud. I'm curious because you know, when you've got, you know, the it's often talked about like the Monday after wrestlemania in a Russell any sort of a combination of your story lawns back in the day. It was a combination of year yearlong storyline. Maybe not quite a year now, but still several months several weeks a few days, in some cases. But wrestlemainia here, you know, you're you're closing the door on the feud with the X for stone cold Steve Austin the chase for the world title. He's achieved it and as feels like instead of launching ride into a new opponent and a new more traditional feud with another wrestler, you guys decide on the momentum character how far in advance had you figured out that high once once we crown champion minutes gotta be you know, a back and forth about is. He the right type of champion for Vance. We'll know it was one of those we had feed that champion and the first person that we were getting ready to. Feed him was going to be Mick Foley's, and using the McMahon character, Mr McMahon character wasn't even really defined at that point, as you know, use this character get somebody over this actually going to work with Steve in the live events, and let's do some programs someone that Steve is comfortable with that. We have competence is going to get Steve over in. That was Mick Foley. Everything was changing after wrestlemainia. I it's funny. You look at their different wrestlemanias where it's a culmination and everything's kind of ended at wrestlemainia, and then there's wrestlemanias where it's all fresh in. It's a new beginning at wrestlemainia, this particular mania was a culmination of a lot of things in the next night was a new beginning going forward. So we had to there wasn't a ready made opponent for Steve you had to make one and you had to you had to get him. Ready? There was already the natural. Vince McMahon the promoter didn't want. This wild car representing his company in want this wildcard having his championship belt. So he was looking to anybody in anything that he could manipulate to do it in every single time that McMahon walked out there. It was just one step further away from getting him out of the rain was hunter ever considered for the spot. To be. To be the next opponent for C, thus Russian. Yeah. It feels like if could have been a natural progression to go from the leader of the x who's now on the shelf to now the the facto leader of the x did you guys not go with him? Because at the time vents see as big on upside for him. He didn't think he was going to be the star that he became or what what it hundred not get the nod their with Mick Foley getting instead because we didn't want the comparison to Sean. Okay. And I think that pudding hunter right in. There would have been an immediate comparison to show 'em people saying okay would have been less than so the idea at the time was to move the x in the direction that we moved the X into a baby face role and create a new DX. There was that. There was a groundswell for the X. If you go back, and you look at some of the things that we did. If you didn't have Austin in the ring with them the audience, they were digging their shit respond asses. They were they were everything Austin was, but they were going against awesome. So the audience vote 'em you take Austin out of that question. You let them go do their shit. They're going to be baby faces give them a he'll the work with their even stronger baby faces, but yes hunter was discussed because as you say that would have been a natural progression. The X. Sean lost the championship Shawn's now gone away hunters gonna come and he's going to vindicate his friend. But Vince had confidence hunter could go in the baby face route. And he didn't want to diminish him right there. It was like he felt it would hurt him in that role in thought he'd be stronger baby face. So let's keep it going April six Austin shows up in a suit because Vince is introducing the world to the new student stone cold save Austin. And of course, that doesn't last very long some shenanigans happen. And then we get to April thirteenth, which we've covered last year in the archives of walks along accurate, you if you're really interested in more on this Moran. Also, go back and watch it. This is gonna be the match where Vince Russell Steve Austin, Steve has one arm tied behind his back raw actually winds up beating on show in the writings for the first time in eighty three weeks when when you see that writing come in as it fucking half off all around. Yes, it was elation to say the very least. And I don't know that anybody. No, one said, okay. This is gonna do it by God. This is gonna put us over the top. It was a risky that was a risky deal. And when it happened and people got talking, and that was a situation where you could see that needle move from the moment that they announced Vince is going to wrestle tonight. Oh my God. Vince McMahon is going to get in the ring with Steve Austin? Well shit that was the night that in the next day, the validation that they wanted to see that. And they wanted more because obviously they didn't get it that in for us the whole idea behind. It was let's introduce this new character ears, dude. Love yours. Mick Foley, and. You know that? It worked what they wanted more. Mr mcmahon. Does this research at the credit? He deserves for that. Vince russo. I think so, you know, I just know that sometimes we we have fun with some of his silly ideas. But allegedly this is, you know, something that Russo had a lot of influence over to. We should probably give it some props on this one, right? I would give him props. You know, look, I think Vince Russo from from the wrestlemainia on after wrestlemainia, I think that Rousseau deserves a shitload a props for getting that whole stone cold, Mr McMahon character over. Let's keep it going here. I guess we should mention at the end of that, you know, segment on raw do love comes down in attacks. Awesome. So it becomes apparent that? This was all really a pool way to get off to the child one arm behind his back, and that would allow a crony a stooge if you would of Mr McMahon, the Aaron boy if you will to to go to the bidding input put the boots too so cold, and that's dude love which does feel a little bit out of left field. But let me tell you boy, they tore down at unforgiven. I don't think we've talked about this show enough. But go back when you get Tom and watch it. It's April twenty six from Greensboro, North Carolina nineteen ninety eight and do love is gonna be Steve Austin by Q, so often retains the title and just about nineteen minutes Meltzer really enjoyed her to he said it was an incredible performance of bump typing by dude. Love carried this and office. Timing was great as well. Eight doesn't all out brawl. I mean. They're using ring steps guard rails and everything in between. You should really go out of your way to see it. It's a four star mass. According to the observer, and that's for a small as finish. If you will McMahon does take a hard shot and the show unconscious McMahon to end the show and horse announcements made that Austin was disqualified for hitting a WWF official. But I know, you know, this is this is gonna be a big moment for Mick Foley to he hasn't made of in a ton of pay per views for the company, he got his his first crack at it back in ninety six in Philadelphia at in your house show against Shawn Michaels, and that will deliver and was a barn burner. And now he's doing it again here and just tearing it up in along the way, you know, he had some matches with the entertainer that that were what they were. But working, you know, a big man versus a bigger man is a little different than the type of match. She would have with a brawl with a guy who's smaller than you. Whether Shawn Michaels or Steve Austin, but a fucking phenomenal match. I can't recommend it enough. People sleep on it. I think because maybe the dude love character wasn't their favorite incarnation. Would you think of this match? And what was the reaction from everybody backstage was Foley, particularly proud to be in this fine. Well, the answer the folly question. Yes. But everyone was more than pleased. Because all of a sudden now you have a new character without having to add another another body to the roster so to speak. So you had this guy that could play a multitude of characters in mankind. Dude. Love later on we would get cactus, Jack. And then you just go to plain old, Mick Foley, who's in another himself was great character. And. That you know, the delivery of that was fantastic. Mick Foley, let everybody know that. He was there to play in that he shouldn't be denied put himself in that. He was he was being used to get Steve over he got Steve over in. He made new characters out of it. So hats off to make Foley thought this was some of the incredible shit that this is where things really became fluid and we knock Vince Russo. We have fun within through were say he didn't know what he was doing from one week to the next. He didn't. But it was creating as you went along. And it was changing every week and going with the flow that change the way that we did business and every single week something new, and it was something different. So it was it had an unpredictable feel because it wasn't predictable. The next night on raw awesome fins the title against gold. Dust Briscoe is the referee Vince tries to hit also the bell. But he misses enhance Briscoe the shenanigans continue the next week where vision like which I'd like to point out must've Briscoe wide open with very few times in Jerry's career that he ever got busted open. Man, just overzealous cooperative with that bell man knocked not living shit out of it. Jerry, never bled in it. If he did it was few hard ways here and there, but that was one of the very few times on one hand, you can count them number of times euro brisk over bled. And that was one of them may eleventh raw when have Vincent man named himself. A stone cold Steve Austin partner against the rock in deal. But Austin never tag that. Of course, eventually this clothesline them the following week. Awesome. Gonna Russell Patterson Brisco with slaughter as the referee and a fan wearing in Austin mass jumps the rail and attacks Allston the pulled the mask off reveal is Vince McMahon. This is some interesting booking here working tell us about these handful of segments here. Well, again, the ideas pretty much became that the conduit to everything Austin in the foil for stone cold was going to be Mr.. Mcmahon. That was something the audience could really get into they were believing it and they loved it. Because now this was their time to say, you know, what he's the guy that runs the WWE after we don't like what we're seeing. He's the one to blame and stone cold's gonna kick his ass. Because he's my guy. Steve aas represents me no matter where I am in America or anywhere in the world. That's my guy and fuck bits McMahon. Steve's gonna kick his ass for me in that feeling. Just invalid everything that you could put you could put anybody within just the sheer fact that risk in Patterson became huge names again being stooges close stooges for bents because we need officials to flank Vince and use Jerry and Pat. You probably could've put anybody else out there for that one night for Steve to anoint them stooges and they would have gotten over. Now. Maybe not Briscoe in Patterson were so good has such great chemistry. But everything that Steve was touching rubbing up against and thence. Was that point man, it was it was turning to go. The over the edge pay per view goes down on may thirty first in Milwaukee was see a rematch year with Austin in dude love Austin is going to retain the title. They go twenty two or half minutes. The special situation here has Vince is the referee Briscoe is the time keeper Patterson is the ring announcer in I do ridiculous over the top ring announcing here, which is kinda fun and then tons of crazy spots in here. The crowd a super high for all of it. They're even taking Bank jobs on the hood of a car. I mean, they're pulling out all the stops. Meltzer. Absolutely loved it. He gave it four and a half stars the undertaker eventually is out here. And he goes to choke slammed Patterson and most would even know at fifty eight years old Patterson was kicking his feet way up to get even more of an effect from the move through the American announcer's table on the Briscoe jumped Dan same thing happened him through the Spanish announcers. Able so really really crazy. Also, cassava claw delivers another sterner and while covering love, grabs McMahon's hand accounts. Three in the Bill rang signifying he won four and a half stars go out of your way to watch these. I think the two most slept on matches from ninety eight. I think for whatever reason people were excited about Steve Austin bay champion, but didn't really pay much attention to the matches. But dude, Mick Foley was working his ass off. Here improves you guys write for going with him. I as the first opponent fresh off a title with absolutely in. He also gave us more ee gave more than was originally thought that Eva deliver you kinda think okay. We'll get one off with him. And then maybe two but mitt. Solidified his place in history by going out in becoming a. First of all the despise -able character. And then a character that you had to love, and I think that people loved him. The more than McMahon. Abused him. But at the same time you hated him because he let McMahon abuses. So it was it was a coming of age party for Mick Foley in one that good. God. Just business was changing. This is where you sit there, and you look at the business go things are changing. On june. Second raw Vince is gonna receive the humanitarian of the year award. Hypothetically. What do you think one of the boys back in the day would have had to say about him winning humanitarian of the year award? Which ROY Jim Cornell by the fucker? Who knows he wasn't humanitarian by got just asked you. Well, just looking for some impressions here. Trump spice the show up. Let's keep it moving. This segment. Here shows are presentative for the minority athletes network show up and say that McMahon gave less money than he promised. In check bounce twice in his favorite wrestler is Steve Austin Austin's here with a black tie jeans, and no shirt or jacket. So that's pretty funny. He wants a picking pockets for twelve hundred bucks gives us the charities undertaker's music plays a druids room casket to the ring, but a wines that it's actually Cain coming out of a casket a mankind coming from the other side of the ring they put Austin in the casket and Allston as trapped in there. Cain stands on top of the casket. Of course, builds towards the first blood match, which is a title defense against Kane. King of the ring. This is a pretty notable show for the mankind situation. But it wasn't the main event as crazy as all sound. The Helena sale where Mick Foley, nearly fucking died was not the man. It wasn't fact Steve Austin Kane for the world title, and then almost didn't happen because also was battling a serious staph infections report that he was hospitalized after a half show on Friday and allegedly his favorite talk one hundred four so he's just a crazy crazy shape here and nearly missed the show. What can you tell us about Steve Austin's staph infection in touch ago that was as we build the king of the ring? You look back at it story in a time to businesses so hot for Steve Steve is one of those guys tape it up and go I compare Steve a lot to rainy save John school mix it up and go in sandwich the same thing. Wrestlemainia five with HOGAN where he had a bet. It was very similar Steve wasn't willing didn't wanna take time off. But it got to the point where Steve if you don't take time off this is not something to mess around with. And he would hide it so long that eventually you look at it and go now, it's a lot worse than it would have been if you just got an attention as soon as symptoms started save had to go in head get fluids and had to get, you know, antibiotic, drip, just so we could get him through that and got released came in. And it is business that night. And that was a shocker because for a lot. Of us. You left the title on the guy, you you. You had the champion. He carried the championship for a long time. The Steve was going to be the man, then leave the title on him and here to do the one night. Switch over the Cain was. I don't know that was most popular choice in the world. Amongst people it worked. But there were a lot of people that didn't like, I guess. I guess we should tell you the story in the Matt's year is even though under figured damn near killed mankind. They're back out here, and they're going to do alling chairs, but eventually mankind. Ducts a chair shots that causes the tanker hit Steve Austin Austin does a hell of a blade job. He's busted open bleeding a river in when Earl Hefner wakes up from one of his many bumps that night. He sees it calls for the bell. And Kane is your new WWF champion the Matula got three in a quarter stars. I guess told the no K story, but compared with to make Foley matches even with all the gimmicks of the cage coming down, and it being a blood match. It just wasn't as good at all. Even as a kid. I was like we'll have a soccer we get enough canes bleeding. He's got a mask on a railroad Zeon. No. I get it. But just even though it was like, okay. Steve Austin's definitely winning in. It didn't happen. Instead, you guys go the other way. Cain winds up winning. On his oil champion as we get to the next night. I guess you know, we should mention Austin stuns everybody incite he wants winning the world title. He's he's driving vehicles and taking apart celebrations. And the the thing that everybody always asks about that knock though is for one night. You went back to the old built you have any idea. Whether it was like awesome had been rocking the new what they call big eagle bell with the blue strap but on this night where you're celebrating canes fan. It's just the regular all wing eagle that he wanted wrestlemania fourteen any idea while that would have happened that why no clue man could be it could have been in repair. And those are also during the days that Chebbi to they would have to go in and get repaired different things than you would use which had. So I have I have no idea. What's that particular instance, on that evening was, but that may have been it? So talk to me a little bit about football. This was something that you guys were promoting from Foxboro stadium on July. First you've actually got an arm. Wrestling match with Vincent, man. Steve Austin a big crowd there. Lots of pictures of this popped up. Somebody winds up taking tumble into the water. And this photographs of you there the match I mean, the thing I don't think actually wound up happening did like the show providing. It did not that that will stay that. The Vincent gone and met with Robert Kraft. They talked about doing this huge event in boxwoods wherever it is. Where the the them damn patriots play. But this was going to be a huge a big huge van in outdoor stadium. We went down. And we did the announcement of it the promotion around. It was Vince McMahon arm-wrestling song cold Steve Austin. We did it out on this this island in the middle of Boston and the water around it stunk to high have it was disgusting knee had to take little boat out. We had the island all decorated with all this different shit on it had the arm. Wrestling tables, set up right in the middle. So that day, I was I was with Austin. So I'm with Austin all day long from the morning until night and Stephen had tickly rough night in sleep much the night before we had gotten together. Early in the day in Steve one of those I need a couple of beers just to to take the tin jaw here little bit. So when we got out there it was hot. It was gross. I'm in a suit sweat my ass off season shores. We get out there in Vince decides when he's out there. Go tell Steve to dump me in the water. I'm looking at enrolling how deep is it. I don't know. I just oh, man. The God damn law. No one knows I'm asking their best. How deep is this. What what's in it? You know, because it stinks like shit and then sun a shit. So I go over tells Davis it, okay? After the after the deal when Vince turns his back dump him in the water, which we did. So is doing this. And you're kind of on this platform and everything and slaving all around like he's drowning. And he's screaming at me rose rose help me rose help me and turn around and there's get all dock Andrew steak day. And I look at Michael Michael's air. I think he had like a gray sport coat on and jeans and something else. And I'm like good God Michael help him. He's drowning. Also, I'll get you don't write a ball. Michael reaches his hand out to help vents in. And I knew what was coming next Michael winter, swimming and been schooled, Mike Lynn, and they had their fun. When I saw that a state. Let's get out of here Steve jumped in the boat. It a victory lap around the island, and let Vince up there and dense had this horrible rash. Vincent, Michael boat. Oracle rash all over their bodies that disgusting. Water in in that pond. They're outside of Austin. It was gross. Let's keep it rolling here. Let's talk about the fully loaded pay per view, latch, twenty six Fresno, California with cover this one in the archives on undertaker Steve Austin are gonna beat mankind and Kane to win the tag titles. Lots of injuries. Probably not the best match the seventeen and a half minutes Meltzer in love it to three quarter stars. And this makes Austin a double champion which she's done before. It's time. He was an intercontinental attack champion the now, he's the world champion and the tag team champion. What do you remember about fully loaded here? Well it. You'll it was done for a night. It was done for a spot. If you're ever going to be able to get heat on a champion in especially somebody like Steve this man is hard to be. This is the time to do it. Because when you put the tag team titles autumn last and how to get them off. And now they've got to lose. And for me. I just didn't like it. I thought it was. Well, what else are you gonna do? I'm a win. Okay. You have a win. The next question was never asked who's next. How do we get it off of him? And that was the frustration on on a lot of our end, especially with me because I just didn't understand. And I don't think that they had the answer that time either. And that's where you know, some of the the Russo creative would have holes in it because you'd start something, but she didn't have the finish already. Well, let's just do it. We'll figure it out late. So let's talk a little bit about the next night on raw it looks. Like there's going to be a title switch with the outlaws. But it doesn't actually happen. But it does happen on August tenth as a four corners tag team match an undertaker in Allston wound up losing the titles to mankind. Kane on that gets a Bill to summer slam ninety eight so the whole new out show forward was building towards summer slammed on where we're gonna have the explosion of the former tag team champions now facing off for the world title, Steve Austin and undertaker with cover this in the aircraft's. Neither guy really wanted to be he'll as a result the match wasn't nearly what could have been a terrible match, but only got three and a half stars. But you would think with two big box office guys like this. The hate maybe would have been a little more significant. I know we cover this, you know, in the archives last year, but briefly touch on why. Think this undertaker Allston viewed wasn't as hot maybe as it could have been just a baby pace. I it was a whole baby base issue. There was no one solidly to get behind. I think the audience like both you had your two biggest heroes two biggest baby faces with a couple of months Bill to one on one match that. I take her didn't have a strong case to go win the championship. And Steve strong case to kick. Takers ass was just the meeting of these two bad asses for the championship. In the old days. Maybe it would work. I just didn't work here because no one had a solid baby. Face in the solid. He'll somebody root for someone to root against think. The audience kind of wanted both guys to win. And in that situation. You don't have a winner. Often get knocked out in this. When their heads collided is that right to have that right? Yep. Logging knocker. Yes. And he was he was out for a few minutes about a few minutes with. Yeah. He was out. Did you know when he saw her or did you find out after the fact found out after the fact when it happened you could tell that he was a little out of it? But when you're you're asking questions guys rinkside, Steve, okay? And asking the referee and everybody in there. Give me a thumbs up that he's okay. And I'm sure they were asking St. savory, right? He just was like, yeah. Yeah. I'm good. I'm good. But when you're knocked out like that in you kinda knock silly. That's what you're gonna say. Most of the time. The September fourteenth raw McMahon comes out in announces of the undertaker and Kane have come to a business arrangement where they're going to work together to get the title of Steve Austin, and that's the breakdown pay per view that we're going to be setting out. It can only end if one of them pen Austin or Austen pans, one of them later in that same show also would defend the title against him can't shamrock which I think is there actual first match together. Shamrock here was he considered you know, obviously, we're just gonna keep it moving in. We're onto the breakdown show with Kane and undertaker working against the it does feel like shamrock could have been a big deal for you guys is a big opponent for Steve Austin or have a longer feud along a ruined together. What do you think that didn't happen? Because Kim didn't have the verbal skills for it to happen. And can yes, tremendous athlete ungodly athlete and is concede through anything that he did. He was great in the ring but cans verbal skills. Try and get you to that point. He would've had had to have had a mouthpiece. And in comparison to some of the other heels that Steve had waiting in the wings for him. Ken was better as you don't underneath that and working in a support role underneath that. Because Steve needed that strong. He'll that could cut those promos go back and forth with him verbally. The main event of breakdown really sucked. We've covered this on the archives. It goes down September twenty seven Hamilton Ontario. They go twenty two minutes, Allston, undertaker and Kane on the do like a double pin deal, Vince, Tross leave with the Bill jumping into a limo. Awesome supposed to run after him. But he's just walking. It's it's really not the visual people probably imagined. I know you sometimes have been pretty vocal about not really loving a three way match. This one was just sort of doing from star was. Well. Same thing. Yeah. In my opinion, you only had one he'll in there and Kane if you've got to heels in a baby face now, the baby faces in some jeopardy, and I'm really rooting for him to overcome at this point. I'm kind of happy if undertaker wins, I'm happy. If Steve wins, a really don't care that much if Cain wins. I don't want him to win. But he was the only he'll and it was the reverse psychology of how you would normally put a three way together. And that's why it didn't work. It didn't work because the audience is confused is the the same thing in summer, slam who the hell the root for right? I love stone, cold Seve awesome. I loved the undertaker superstrong characters. But now I've got gain in there. And I don't care as long as somebody beats him. So the next night on raw is a pretty big deal. Awesome shows up on Zamboni Ajaz from the outside of the building as the cops scatter, and he jumps off. Zamboni in the rain clones on in family. The police handcuff him taking away, and this is really I guess the start of a of a fad or also is going to be driving different vehicles in the arena. And I had this idea of Zamboni as best you recall. I I heard was forbidden McMahon got, dammit. What if Steve throw something in in? And then when we were in the rainy looked at got damn it could drive that big Zamboni. In a in a just happened. What people don't know about that is when you watch and you see Steve go through the curtains, Steve's blinded by the Kurt they weren't up in rehearse. So the idea was the curtains were up Steve Knox shit down in continues on and goes to the ring. Well, when he hit the curtains eight just took him with him, and they binded him. He didn't know where the hell was going to get out of the way. Everybody had pretty much gotten out of his way on on all the other sides. But I was against the wall. There the grill position and. Would steep Cape. St. that damn Zamboni hit my table in pin me against the wall. Hit it come over just a little bit more. You know, we wouldn't be doing this podcast by God. And it was one is fault. He couldn't see, but it was some scary shit. And that's you know, if you're gonna rehearse you. Learn every time you do something you're going to rehearse it. Do it in the wartime atmosphere put everything up as is going to be that night when you actually do it. And then it became a thing. Hey, what Steve gonna drive to the rain? That became deal. Let's keep it moving here. The next week. This is a big story Vincent in the hospital because he's been attacked by Kane and the undertaker as they in storyline broke his ankle. And also this year dressed up as a doctor and oil pretty famous clip. I guess he has to try to chefs up up Vinci's ice chat me up. What do you remember about filming this? What about the hospital? We would hit him in the head with a bedpan. It's it's a it's a classic clip that still has shown talked about to this day as funny that you talk about that did that was a real bed pan, very stiff pan that left a not on Vincent's head size of a huge egg. But so much stop in. And this is again, one of those places were Vince Russo doesn't get enough credit because this was a Rousseau production. And this was something that he had talked about with Vincent man, something that he had worked out. With Mick Foley in Steve to get that classic shit in. Vince McMahon was becoming a lot more open to. Let's try some different things. Let's let's do shit. We we haven't done before. And Mick Foley was so good off the cuff that. Then trusted mic in allowed him to go out and have fun. And I think it was all snow came up with the Pfister Succo. Hello there, always girls and your pool the clown, and and that was her debut, and that was a one off the became a reoccurring character that everybody's like let the what are we going to do with your poll? Can we teach her to take up? All of that in that was during a time that we could do things it was not heavily scripted. It was an idea. It was a scene that Vince in Austin because they had such great chemistry. You throw Mick Foley into that as well. They had such great chemistry were so good off the cuff they made that shit memorable. Without? All right. I say this then I moved here. It was. Here's the scene. Here's what we want have a fight yet his ass go from there. And that was the Kathleen during that time. They are over twelve raw also drive a cement mixer in the building and Phil Vinci's corvette with until the windows blow out. They still actually have this corvettes. We learned last year year before last at the F warehouse, which is pretty amazing that still hung hung on this thing whose idea was this. Where did you find the car? What can you tell us about this pretty famous scare? We did that I believe that was in Nassau Coliseum. I could be wrong on that. But this was thinking what if Steve's destroyed like my price possession, and I had a sports car something we bought this, corvette. This look like shit. But this okay, we cleaned it up as best that we possibly could. And is we're doing it were sitting there looking at it. We try to a rehearsal with some stuff with another car. And when you filled up the. The car. It just cement oozed over was less than spectacular. Wasn't good. And what if what if we rolled windows up yen? It's totally illogical. Why on a beautiful day? You're driving a corvette, you have the windows up on it. But that's what we did. Because the windows when all that cement came up. You could actually see it then, and it filled up in the pop on the windows was a happy accident that we really we were ready for. But we weren't ready for the way that it happened and icon, it that was one of those deals just you sitting there looking at it. Let's try it this way we've got one shot at it. Do it in Walla. Same played over and over. How many times have you seen that pop with cement the corvette forever around Connex kit. So honestly think you guys paid for that yet again? Probably I don't know twenty five thousand dollars. It's pretty praising later in the show. Austin Iraq were big chain of the undertaker by the Q. Big boss man comes out wearing a mask. Tax Austin, and then unmasks and this bug big boss man's return to the WB. Al after having a stint in WCW, why why they be boss man this way. I mean, obviously, you're putting him with the hottest star in the business. But it does feel I don't know like an interesting spot to have him because he hadn't been previously sort of position near the top of the cards. I think that the idea behind it was to have, you know, this was going to be Vincent's heater in boss man was in great shape. He looked absolutely fantastic. And it was a reimagining reinventing the big boss man in this new gear, and this whole brand new look. The idea originally from what I know was bring the big boss man in in have him work with Steve and having worked for the championship. But unfortunately, that damn bell rang and boss man, wasn't the same big boss man that we had had before he lost a lot of weight. And unfortunately, he had I think he lost the stepper twos. Well in the ring and didn't have that same intensity that Vince was looking for. But they beuing him that way, the idea was that's going to be, you know, big boss, man and stone cold Steve Austin, people would believe this big nasty. Son of bitch. Put a beaten on Austin. Then survivor series happen. Yeah. Or get their the judgment. They pay per view comes first also is the ref during an undertaker Kane. Master crown a new champion in vincit. If often didn't raise the hand of the winner, he firing Laval the show Paul bear comes out and asking to step aside. So he could hit the undertaker with a chair ending totally predictable move. He then hit Kane with a chair who knows sold to blow. Obviously, we go back and forth undertaker's arguing with Austin. Austin gives him a stunner in a chair shots and counts with both men laying on the mat and rules. The most the loser in himself the winner and Vince fired him. I mean, obviously, nobody really thought Austin was fired. What did you think of the finish of that show? I mean, probably not the best paper V-gas gonna on. I'll give you the scripture Patterson give that bench. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You cut your promise that you're promising people something that they're going to see something in you, give them a stipulation and. When it doesn't happen disappointing right or the audience are expecting. Okay. Awesome is going to have to count. Some. I'm gonna get I'm walking out of this in cane, or the undertaker is the champion that doesn't happen. And I think that this is where a lot of times the simulations and all the. Conditions. We would put on ashes they just didn't happen. They'd mean. Right. So the more you do that every single fucking special match you happy, but oh, it's not gonna matter. Anyway. So the next time on raw Allston is gonna take Vince hostage, and this is a pretty famous segment here. Awesome makes Vince say oink oink real loud ties among puts duct tape over his mouth. And then later in the show brings Vince to the ring holds a gun to his head. I events looks like he's gonna piss himself. Any does on an awesome pulls the trigger assigned comes out of the gun says bang three sixteen than of course. Austin stunned Vincent, man. Very famous segment. I mean, I gotta ask this a source silly. But this is what we do here on the show was that work in piss or she'd pass. What what what what kind of question would that be also shoot piss? Oh, okay. Honestly on this. This is our. But they're blogger at off of your in our s I don't know why funny to may. But it sure is. Let's be us in shit. Yeah. All right. This this show is of anything else. Vince is a good sport pretty much willing to do anything because they're not. Again. It's a demonstration of Vince when he would ask someone to do something ridiculous to be able to look him in the eye. And he's never asked anybody to do something that he himself wouldn't do write though, this was the place where perceived to make him look ridiculous. And he was willing to do that. Let's keep it rolling here. Let's talk about the awesome Meg interviewed by people magazine. He's a one of the breakthrough stars of nineteen ninety eight and he was also going to be featured in the sexiest bald men issue. He's also going to be on the billboard music awards on MTV. It's pretty amazing that. Wrestling got as high as it did as fast as did often is everywhere, he's mainstream everywhere, it probably feels like a year prior new guys trying to wrestlemainia eleven you're trying to court as many celebrities as you can. So the same thing. Wrestlemania tan fast forward a few years. And now everybody, you know, the mainstream attention. I mean, they're chasing you right? Yeah. It became our guys with the celebrities in that was the beauty of it that all of a sudden we went from growing from the outside end that we were now exploding outside. Steve was everywhere. It was Jesus. It was a phenomenon we had security that would mean an in rock was rock was getting big too in this that undercurrent underneath all of this. But we had security we had relationships with the airlines that security would meet there. Planes, and they would take them off the plane down. They didn't walk down the runway or down the the gate area. They would take him down the steps right outside the plane. They would have SUV's waiting for him in whisk them away. So that they would never be in the airport proper because the airports were having security issues. You go back in nineteen ninety eight. You didn't have the strict security that you have. Now, you could go and meet you're playing at the gate. You know, ten of you could go down there to me your loved one coming off the plane. So there were security issues with people going to the airport wanting to deceased e wanted to get autographs wanted to get pictures. What have you so we would have security that would meet them? I am take them down SUV's wiscon- away in and get them off to the hotel or get him off to the building. And that was with. I was with all of our top guys because it had gotten so big so fast. That we were experiencing things we had never experienced before. And it came quick we just had the you had to adapt and go. The member second raw opens with Shane McMahon saying his father wasn't around on. He was in charge. So Steve is going to get a title shot on the November sixteenth raw convinced shows up in a limo and gives a really really strong. He'll interview and was sort of off to the races with what's going to happen at survivor series. We've touched on this before we certainly did a whole episode on survivor series on the eight Steve is in a sixteen man tournament panel world champion. And then there is the Steve off the big boss, man mats that boy you really love Metzer would call it a real weak finish. Thank you would say. That's even probably a little polite. Fuck. Yeah. It was absolutely terrible. Th the finish. They had everybody out of the ring from the corporation and the finish was supposed to take place with with Steve where Shane gives them the double birds and Steve gets up go corner. Shane boss man, who would have been out at the ring supposed to be there the entire show slides in the ring behind Austin nails Austin with the night, sit and Austin's now screw. We're out there the match taking place. Get to the spot. I'm like, we're the fuck is boss, man. And everybody's looking around like, where's boss, man? She's the ringside now backstage before the match right before the match. Everybody is standing in front of the grill position. I send everybody to the ring. Just like normal boss man was there. But he had asked for they win says, hey, I've got to go over my match with undertaker. I'll be. I do that. And he didn't go out for the match. Now why no one call that? I don't know because he was there. I remember talking to the whole nine yards, and I'm screaming in the back where the fuck is boss, man. And we're in Saint Louis, and it was just absolutely unsafe moment when there's no boss, man. Nobody knows what the hell. The do. Finally, somebody says get in somebody hits Steve with a chair, which Jerry Briscoe jumped in and had to do something see could beat up Shane something. Get Steve out of it. And we call it. The tea heard round the world because Steve's got a bad neck Risco. Swing on a chair risk assures hill did not want to be responsible for hurting. Steed, Steve didn't know what the hell was coming at him. Anyway, and we had to do something to get the hell out of the. This match you had enough guys out there to hopefully, do it. It looked like shit that here comes boss, man. Running around the corner running to the ring everybody's where the fuck where you. A catastrophe. It it was the shit's. It's one of those. We know what was supposed to happen. The audience doesn't necessarily know. But in this situation, they knew that it sucked. One get. Well, it wasn't good Austin's going to move on to the semifinals against mankind. Mankind pens Austin in ten minutes. Twenty seven seconds awesome. Selling the left arm pretty big here. Three stars is the finish. Shane is involved here where Austin is lying down for three with Shane counting. And other doing getaway car tease with Patterson Brisco slaughter getting a limo fleeing. Theoretically, I guess with Vincent Shane with Austin steals of van in leaves after what did you think of the payoff year with Shane double-cross in doing the middle finger, and then the getaway cards stealing van? Oh boy. I love the finish the way it was laid out originally, and how it was supposed to take place if it had taken place that way would have been great. It would have been off the charts. Great and people will talk about you know, that time that. Screwed over so cold Steve Austin in then everything else, I think almost been forgotten would've may everything would have made sense. But that didn't happen. And I think it made everything else. Just look. Near a lot of that. It just will say anti climatic because it it wasn't as intense wasn't as big of a nephew as it was meant to be an as it was laid out to be. And unfortunately, you're left with that. And you've got to go through with plans of sometimes it's just not as good as you think it's going to be. The next night on raw as with Vincent Shane along with rock telling the story of the swerve off. So it's gonna come out his contract guaranteed title match on. November sixteenth McMahon said he already had this title shot in the tournament than before. And then also named a local judge claimed he have ruled the contract was binding in the air a videotape of judge Mills Lane of boxing, referee fame. We've never really talked about this. But how fuck that mills Langan involved in this Mills Lane was doing a show like judge, Judy, right? Is it was promotion for Mills Lane. A was he was good friend of the show? And we offered he was going to do some stuff with us offer to help him out with his show just an old friend and helping somebody out with their new show getting some exposure. And that's all ever meant to do. Later in the show Austin beats rock by the Hugh in about eight minutes as a title match. The heat is off the charts for this one mankind's gonna come out type boss man shamrock in boss fan or doubling on mankind. Austin his Stoner Shamron polls are a Hefner out of the ring undertaker hits Austin where the shovel there's your day. Hugh undertaker is about to destroy awesome with a shell will. But for some reason, Paul pallbearer stopped him. You know, this is sort of a throwaway raw here, but many go back any wants this crowd was just on fire for it. The November thirtieth row is kind of interesting. Take your lock Steve Austin in a meat locker in a awesome later gets out of the show and he clocks undertake your with a shovel. He caned put him in a body MAG while Bayer was going and the show ends with Austin Kane cornering bear taking into the rain on Austin's about to stab him in the chest. But changes his mind the drag amount out of the arena throw him in a manhole and the show ends supposedly with bear in the sewer. What the fuck is going on here. We got dudes of meat laughers. Dudes get hit with shovels almost seeing a stabbing. There were throw in the dude. Like, he's a fucking ninja turtle into the sewer. This is this is a lot. Oh. Oh, man. I don't even know where to begin on that. Yeah. What what what the where where the fuck you begin? What do you say? Shit was happening and. Just in that building and saw the sewer hall. Pallbearer was the several things. First of all he was concerned about fitting, which he barely did and second of all ruining his suit. But Vince insane was it'd be down in with the rats in the gutter in a sewer perfect brea. Gone. I think that there was a temp. Every show. Steed had to do some Steve had Steve head to overcome adversity in in this even goes back to the hulk HOGAN days where a lot of times holster he had he had the phrase you gotta stack the deck. And. That's what we did was steam HOGAN was stacked the deck for the pay per view. Stacks of Deckers matches with Steve we had to stack the deck every week in we had to give him something new overcome. It's something new for him to do that. Gets him over the top every night like a knife put him with a knife. Ain't a not damning. It's it's a sacrificial instrumental to get to the other side to the other side boy has tiptoe Taleb some on the instrument. Okay. It's a symbol to. I know. I gotta. Gotta. Sand with not I mean, the the ceremonial instrument. Thank you. Thank you the next week on raw Austin man, contacting tycoon rock four druids show up with the cross. Yeah. Symbol for us are sorry, sorry, Austin intake, your were brawl Langan, take her knocks out also with a chair shot then they tie him to the crawl. I mean symbol symbol. And then the crucify him when they raise the the symbol Christmastime, he was tied in he ascended. Up until the firm save. It's when did, you know, this was the fucking worsen ever? In my head. I don't want to get on a real religious kick here. But in the head when you guys are doing a walk through because if you're going to do a stunt where do you like going up on apparatus in the air? You're not just going to do that for the first time in front of a lot of crowd. You're gonna actually trot beforehand when you guys are walking through that as we look around saying, hey, should we we knew this is this. Men there has to be somebody who raises their hand, whether it's performer someone in the by or everybody just like now, let's see how far we push this. I'm sure someone raise raise the concern. I did I just kind of went. Okay. That's johanna. Do it's look, it's entertainment. So that point it's. Your inner -taining, it's not real. And if you take it as real than on us, Senator tame in its its Gog on were telling stories and entertaining, you is it in good taste, probably not. But that's all subjective. As well. When you talk about tastes. I think is good taste of the people may not listen. I I wanna ask you about that. I know that I understand. And I really do believe you in all when you say, excuse me, assist entertainment. You know? That's why I look at it. It's just an attainments. It's not real whatever. I get it. However. Like, nobody pro wrestling's different as it should be. But is not but it is a little bit. Because like, nobody approaches Al Pacino and says, hey, Michael corallium, like not, you know, that's not they know without Pacino. But but at the same time, you know, Steve Austin in this era everywhere he went he stone cold he Steve off, that's not even Israel night. But but people still call him Steve Austin. It's like this weird like wouldn't eat. Nobody calls Clark. Can't. I mean, nobody calls Christopher Reeves Clark Kent. I mean, he they know us Christopher REEs in real life. You know over furniture that was a character played. But at wrestling, you sort of become the character. And I know that that is is different from the other forms of entertainment. So I think that's why some people would take something like this is I don't know if that's really a good idea because you are so intentionally trying to blur the lines almost like a magician. You know, I mean, you have have talked. Magical lot some on the show, but a lot of the show in there so much of that that is sort of behind the curtain in. There's a lot of similarities with wrestling. But they really become that character. Win. They're the general public. It's not like, they're just they're only that person when they're on stage there that person when they're you know, you pump gas in their car, right? In the old days. Yes. And and that is definitely how it is. However, when you look at you know, to your point what you just said, soap operas, there are people that believed everything that you still do. Soap opera characters that. That's who they are a real life in in the people only know them as their soap opera names, James Gandolfini, talked about people seeing him in real life and thinking he's Tony soprano, sir. When you have a strong character in stone cold Steve Austin, the these are strong characters that had been on for many years in you get you feel it, you know, them. It's there in your home every week you invite them in. So it's. It's the same. But we're ju-, you know, a lot of times you said because it's real people sometimes. And that's where that line gets blurred. Some guys use the real name some guys don't some guys are characters totally fiction. But even the people that use the real names are still playing a character on TV, and they're still doing maybe not necessarily what the human being would do. But what the character would do? So yes, double edged sword. And so you have to look at it when you're creating it when you're riding it. We are looking at it from a strictly entertainment standpoint gloves are off. And I think anything is fair game. In a really comes down to a matter of taste. Obviously got a lot of backlash on that. We've talked about this before. But I just wanted to rain up the build up for them. Crucifying. I mean, putting Steve on the crawl the symbol is a buried alive match at rock bottom on the twenty one minutes. Thirty seconds off tried to get this out of for three or four years now on the show. What's it gonna take to tell everybody? How this bearing allowed message done matching. Get buried alive. They actually are buried. This magic you don't give away. David Copperfield's tricks with this. David Copperfield podcasts. Why understand that? But it it's that's the magic that not everybody needs snow and the those who know. Okay, great. But it's it's magic in. It's an illusion. It's it's arbitrarily pick this one you saw the the the magic behind everything else wise this one so personal for you. Because I like this. I I don't look look. Hey, here's the thing. Not everybody needs to know everything. So there are certain things that are kept within. And and that's why it's I don't discuss will guys contracts are won't discuss money or anything like that. Because I don't feel that's anybody else's business. And this is one of those. It's just very personal and private to me and business. This is not the best Mary law match. It only gets three quarters of a star the whole thing the whole finishes sort of shit. I mean, this is the worst one in. It's really not close talk to me among guys both guys reinjured in both guys were hurting pretty bad and the bull in the match wouldn't have booked the match and mountain general and military says the bulldozer got stage fright in couldn't perform which is. I mean, the whole thing is just a mess though. The the why they try to get to the finish here. And I guess we should mention Steve Austin is going to be in trouble on the way back from are on the way to England on a fly where he has to cancel all this promotional appearances can't eat for four days. And this was right before that pay per view. He was apparently. You know injured in that show, and he's supposed to be checked out. Just so they could try to make it possible for him to wrestle on some of the big shows. You know, when you when you hear of a guy your top star like this. You're going to have to pull out of appearances missing date, some missing how shows and he's your your hottest star in close. I mean is every is everybody panicking a little bit because things aren't just business as usual on. Obviously, it's different because you know, some of the shows seventy the shows already sold out, but you do want to sort of deliver. What she advertise too, right? You do. And and it's difficult when somebody like. The so-called Steve Austin unable to perform because at that time. A lot of people were only coming to see stone cold Steve Austin, that's a tough one to replace. Who the hell you go into and say, okay because whenever you do a replacement. You always wanna if you can the better than what was originally advertised how the hell the U yet better than a song cold Steve Austin's that that's that's also business. That's part of it. Sometimes shit happens, and you have to adapt and make the very best of it as you can not always going to be perfect. So it sucks when when you're not one of your top guys, your top guy, your top attraction is not able to go. But he's also the this was a human being part comes in. He is only human. So let's talk about what's next Royal rumble nineteen ninety nine as that. We're gonna kick off ninety nine also sins in the rumble match. He's number one and the Commissioner Shawn Michaels has deigned that number two will be Vincent, man. And also it's going to beat up on Vance for a few minutes until goal becomes in Austin eliminates him, and then Vince goes through the crowd and led Austin into the women's bathroom where he was attacked by corporations it left, laying unconscious. Since loaded into an ambulance taken to the hospital and Vincent goes rig. Science are to do commentary while he's still legally in the match an awesome would drive the limo back to the building. And then reenter the match, and then he goes on to eliminate shamrock Billy gone test, boss, man, triple h Owen Hart and China and the rock comes down distracts Austin Vince throws him out from behind an unbelievably Vince McMahon wins the Royal rumble on the next night on raw that's forfeits has match against the rocket wrestlemainia and Michael's puts Austin in the mass in Austin agrees to put his title up against Vance to get a match with him, Vince agrees, and that sets up Saint Valentine's day massacre, which is covered that one which is pretty unbelievable show, especially the main event if you haven't seen it our menu. Do McMahon pulls out all the stops. It's pretty. Unbelievable. What is willing to do here? They less than eight minutes after the bell rings, the match only two and three quarter stars in the observer as five stars on the effort for Vincent man for me. Or new green absolutely scary in that, you know, in so many ways that was. It was a good thing. Because we we got new cage out of her. We got new rings out of it. But it was an ungodly performance for somebody. That was not a train. Longterm professional wrestler, go out and do and perform the way that he did at the level that he did with steam is late in stage. Tough son of a bitch. He's gonna make you know that he's there. Every single step of the way. Well, you know, it's it's something that he deserves to be applauded for. Let's talk about his appearances on the CBS television show Nash bridges in. We had seen awesome pop up in the soap stockings and things like that here. They're a nice play Jay cage on CBS television show favorite twenty six. How do you think? Austin did as an actor. You know, he's made some movies over the years can't necessarily say that he's won any awards for that. You know, maybe he is wrestling a little better than his acting. But he said so stuff when you think of his appearances on Nash bridges, well, they made it characters that was very close to who stone cold Steve Austin. So he didn't have to really act that much other than himself be put in different situations in for that character. The Nash bridges I thought Steve did really well in again, it wasn't a stretch. From who he loves his human being who he was as a character that he portrayed every single week on television. It was good enough folks CBS pitched do a series just on based on Steve's character. And that didn't actually come to fruition. But it was pitched, and I think the people felt Steve's acting skills in that regard. We're better than most on March twenty second raw often comes down driving. A course lie beer, truck and sprays beer, all over the rock. Vents Shane pretty conic moment here whose idea was this. How excited is everybody to do? It was this a paid -dorsements spot another seem silly. But it does feel like, you know, when they are giant core struck here, and it's not only in shown prominently to a huge audience live, but also on television and for years to come somebody have wrote a check for that. Did they well they should have? But the did and it was during the time that we were trying to get beer companies sponsors when we were actually trying to yet Steve is own beer. Steve likewise, light, we all like cores light. And they were interested at the time. This is a way to let them know. Hey, you're some exposure for you. This is the type of thing that we can do like we did with light beer. This is what we can deliver for you. This is the audience that is there for you in the can be there for you each and every week. I thought it was a damn cool idea something that hadn't been done before. I don't know. You know, Vincent, man. Sometimes there comes up with some crazy shit. Sure. Russo definitely had a hand in it as well. Just what the question became, really. How do we top ourselves? How do we go further than we went last week? What what's what's that next? Holy shit moment for stone cold. So after the beard, truck or the beer truck. I think people sorta live side of this Austin bay the big show at the some Paul Paula in non minutes twenty nine seconds on the stunner after several chair shots. I only mention this. Because this is why it's I mentioned the WWF, and it's on raw as Lana pay per view in hindsight. Should you save this? God. I thank you should've built to over over a long term deal. In in a lot of ways that could be it could have been wrestlemainia. But it if not that Russell meeting could have been the wrestlemainia in the very next year in build to that build this monster giant. Yeah. Russia definitely think they could awaited. Wrestlemania fifteen is right around the corner. Of course, it's March twenty eighth nineteen ninety nine in Philadelphia. We covered this one in the archives. You know, what the main event is Steve Austin is going to regain the world title, beating the rock and just about seventeen minutes. Shawn Michaels is the ref. Eventually, you know, we see Mike Yoda come down to wrath as well, Sean as the Commissioner rather he's banning the corporation for major fearing the matches. I don't know. It's okay. I guess three and a half stars is probably not the level of heat the head on their raw match a few weeks prior. It probably not as good as the mashes. They would have in the future on this been lots of discussion that this may be wasn't even the original idea. Maybe originally supposed to be three way with mankind. Talk to me a little bit about. The main of what you thought of it. Obviously mankind is involved in the Mets either way. But would it have been better had Foley been the third wheel of this one? No, I don't think it would have been because. Same thing that we talked about earlier with three way matches Steve needed a Steve data, he'll work with it just was a lot cleaner. And it was in my opinion, a lot better. It's just cleaner when you have a clear path to your opponent. There was a clear easy story. And adding other people I think what buddy did up, and it wouldn't have been as good as the match would not have been as good. And I thought the match up the mattress very good was it. They're best known probably wasn't. But they had so many great ones that that's that's hard to. The rate in that regard. But I did think it was a good match and it did deliver in the big spot. Let's keep it rolling here. The next night on raw the show opens with Austin asking Vance to come out he wants or he is Vince the title, he wasn't wrestlemainia. He wants the old custom made stone cold Bill by I guess, we should mention that so-called actually had his own custom world championships has commonly referred to as the smoking skull. Some believe Joe Marshall made. And it's kind of an interesting idea. We haven't really talked about it too much. What'd you think of the smoking skull world championship? Okay. Your belt guy. I'm not I didn't even realize that Steve had a different had his own custom championship. Probably for maybe a month. And that's how little I paid attention to to some of those things. But when I saw a thought, hey, that's pretty cool in originally. I thought that that was just a one off thing the first time I thought, oh, hey, that's cool. You're gonna take that out there. Then when we made a big deal out of it it progressed from there. It was pretty neat deal. But. The fact that we didn't make a big deal out of it. When he first got it. I thought why have it? You know what I mean? Right. It was never a big. There was never a big deal made out of it until until later. He had had it for quite some time before we've made any big deal out of it. Well, they're making a big deal out of here. Because you know, the he's he's beating everybody up. He wants this belt back in parenthesis to the point where on April twelve rock is on a bridge in threatens to throw al-shams belt off a bridge in the river, just like Austin did rocks intercontinental title once before and Austin ended up showing up and they find and rock winds up knocking Austin off the bridge into the river. So it's kinda fun. But you know, we've turned up the volume from Iona Ruth throw your mouth in in the near flight or woman throw your belt in note. I'm just throw U N that feels like he had the Molly turned all the way up when you're talking about throwing dudes off bridges, where sheep this. When was shot who produced it or can you tell us about this stunt Vinson? I produced it Vince McMahon. I produced it and it was. It was near the building where we were. I can't even remember the city, but I remember being out there shooting, it it night and thinking, you know, what the hell are we doing because we had they had to close off traffic, and they had to divert traffic all around us. Now, we didn't do the shoot until like one or two o'clock in the morning. Which did they were allowed. You know? They said, okay, we can shut the street sound for x x number of hours. Whatever it was. And I think we only shut it down for like an hour completely total Chaffetz get permits and all that other. You gotta get permits. Conrad right. If you're gonna throw man off a bridge, you must be permitted to do that. Just saying. A little behind the scenes you got to get a permit. If you won't throw man off bridge. And it was it just was one of those long nights of getting everything shot than the dummy going off the bridge. And I thought it looked like shit. It was terrible. But it was God. Damn it's great. I love it. No one can tell us to dark. Well, we turned off some of these fucking lines. So that might be, but yeah, not my not one of those not one of my favorites. Going back through the years, and in it was okay. How did you get here? You know what I mean? And it would have been maybe even better if we'd actually had a real stunt man versus a dummy. The could actually take the bomb from be flailing along going going out, obviously staves not going to take that bomb. Awesome in the stuntman twenty four seven because on April sixteenth. He was at the San Antonio airport. Ready again getting into flawed Vancouver for the show that night, and he's hit by car and driver jobs off, but also ministry at the license plate number. What are you remember about somebody saying that he was bald with goatee in their decided hit that motherfucker with a car? That's what you do. Conrad. That's no, we don't we can't say that. Because then we'll be a headline popular podcast says if you see a bulb man with the goatee hit it with your car now that wouldn't say hit that motherfucker with a car and unfortunately on Ford. Yeah. How I'll do that. Don't do it. If you get a su- anybody sued Conrad Thompson at it's at. Hey, hey, I'm Conrad. So tell me about, you know, also get run over for real not the the ceiling this. We're going to get two hundred minutes arriver series. But this is April. Now, it's just an accident hike. Steve was crossing the street. Some asshole didn't see him and hit him. It's just kept going right one hurt or anything. It was what it was like what the fuck. That was just crazy accident mishap that that took place seems going to the damn airport. Shit happens. I've hit someone hit someone at the airport before it happens. Homerun ball not. But should have been should have been is, right. Let's talk about the backlash pay per view. Wrestlemania mate rematch between Austin rock awesome. It's going to retain the title, pending rock in seventeen minutes and seven seconds. And earlier in the show Shane McMahon had vowed on the name of his beloved grandfather than of Austin pinned rock, and he would count fairly at this was man, but Stephanie assured everyone that if shady's Vinson yars name he'd be fair. Of course, that means probably won't anyway Spanish announce table rock bottom. You know, the drill pretty good match four and a quarter stars. I think this is probably the best pay per view mass that Austin rock of hat up to this point. Would you agree? Yeah. Would agree that point because it was again, the I think the stakes getting higher so the higher. The stakes more intense at the match became. To me. I think they always had some great matches. They have natural chemistry and they worked so damn well together. That they may have a bad match. And this stakes raising and got more and more intense as you went along while heat wave for us to talk about this back last night in non show. I'm sure we'll cover it sometime later this month. But the finish of this show is is what people really remember the ministry of darkness is gonna go to Vince McMahon's limo Stephanie's there and the cops tell the driver to drive away. Stephanie doesn't wanna leave until her dad comes back. And if the show is ending is revealed that it was the owner teicher driving pretty pretty fun little finish here to the show whose idea was that. That was Vince Russo. And that that was something the only came up to tell that whole story with Vincent, man. Some of got pretty fucking hokey with bear and the teddy bear and all that other good shit. But it was it was a fun little deal that was you will see that scene. Repeated over and over the same scenario often. Let's keep it moving here through the no mercy pay per view is may sixteenth in London England. These are always fine Austin retains the title in the three way over the undertaker in hunters Townsley, fifteen minutes. It only gets three stars anything of note here. You wanna mention about this purview? No, you know, again, it got to be that pay per views just became another raw. In my opinion, during some of this time there was there was so much going on in in so much just shit taking place that a lot of times we weren't. We weren't announcing where previously we would announced damn near the whole card and everything would have a build up to it in. This was the first time we were getting to the last week in sometimes going into the pay per view itself where you had no idea what what was going to be taking place on the event itself. But he knew Steve was going to be involved and just so much shit thrown against the wall that. After a while. Look shit was drawing in 'em. People were interested in no matter what we did. So to that. I can't really complain. It's like, okay. Well, shit you're making money and and things were good. But for my taste creatively. Just sometimes things did matter. Let's keep it rolling here. The next big major show. Piper. He is over the edge may have ninety nine. It's it's notable for the incident without one, but we're gonna talk about undertaker meeting Austin for the title when Shane fast counts. Austin? Pretty crazy night. Obviously, nobody even really remembers talks about Austin undertaker that night in. Why would they the next night? Of course, does a tribute show to Owen at the end of the show also came out toasted a beard Owen. It's all pretty surreal is. Yeah. In the little. Yeah. I couldn't even tell you. I don't remember. Much of anything other than than that night in the night afterwards sons, it's I remember the toast that was something Steve wanted to do. And it was. You know, I thought it was a good thing the semi thrall Linda is going to announce that she stepped down a CEO. She's gonna announced that Austin has been named the new CEO of the WWF and the week after that Austin crosses Vinson's name off the parking spot says he has his own spot now and often is talking to workers outside who have wheelbarrow so inner site in towers and asked the girl whereas offices, the receptionist our front of Maine. She answers the fallen Israel polite that ARC's him, and he teaches her how to do it does is awesome route his Austin, retain and. It's pretty fun. She answers the next call after this little demonstration what the hell. Do you want Cugura, Iran? That's how we do. And do this such a good segment? Underrated. You know, this is one of the first times we really see a lot of Austin comedy later in the show often goes to a meeting he starts off. Saying gentlemen, I use that term loosely, and there's cases of Bush like they are he gives them manual any to read friars subdued who's the head of marketing research promotes the mail clerk. No one has an issue with the promotion. I mean, just super super fun. He Assegaf who wants to have a drinking contest if the pass out or puking on the stumbling around there fired and you make some crack Weirs gets going. He comes into the human resources room introduces himself, Mexican assistant, go get a beer and pushes her on her way. I mean, really some hilarious stuff here. What did you think of these skits of him in the office? Absolutely have a loved it. Because. This was one where we can have fun and actually. Take it out on the people in the in the office that needed to really have taken out on him in some of that was rigging on the square if you will especially with the merchandise guy that was I think he was the first one fired in the conference room there. But. That was a ribbon on the square that was that was a lot of fun to do then taken all the manure and shit an admits his office, which was actually Vince his office. So that's nice. Yeah. Absolutely. Let's get king of the ring down in yon. We've got Austin wrestling Vincent, Shane in a ladder match for control of the WWF. Of course. Vinson chain win. This handicap ladder match with a hundred percent stock in the company on the line. They pen Steve or beats even seventeen minutes in eleven seconds. This is a crazy crazy idea compassion feels like in hindsight what the fuck who would pay for that. The do this this Steve Austin McMahon feud, just got bigger and bigger Valiquette can do wrong this match though. Well, the match it self was just sort of what it was two and a half stars. Yeah. Yeah. With the the briefcase going up and down and all that shit. It was terrible. We can answer. This all the time who was moving the briefcase up. Well, Ridgely is supposed to be Shane McMahon. It just but you never revealed it, and it was it was one of those open ended stories never got revealed. It's kind of like who ran over stone cold but Shane McShane in the match. I know what I'm saying. So what is in the match you just never never pivoted to someone else down. No. We just won't know. We don't need to know who raise it. What do you have to know original idea, which go back you see Shane moving in everytime? Steve goes up. Steve comes back there. And it just was it was a hodgepodge Avila. Logical nece, right. The logical miss is. That word no vote will go with it. The next item raw Vince isn't Austin would become a pre limb wrestler part of the ring crew. But Austin claims he as he oh had signed himself a title match, which will take place later in the show and also a big contract. So later in the show, of course, Austin pins, the undertaker to regain the world title, which is kind of interesting because the year prior at king of the ring he beat Cain the night after the pie for you to win the title. So you're later he beats the undertaker to win the title. So that's kind of fun. It's only fair on July twelfth the show opens Austin doing an interview McMahon comes out in a wheelchair. And they believe out awesome calling him an asshole. And they argue about a contract signing undertaker comes out hits. Also with the Bill. He's juice in here. Then he takes the pin and fills it with Austin's blood. So McMahon sign the contract for the pay per view in Austin's own. Blood. It's a pretty big time share out there. My man. Well, you know, a lot of times people would always make that reference of you're signing that with your own blood. And that was Vince his idea, I guess and and get up plan from its hand. Yeah. Makes sense. Sure. Steve Austin is going to retain the world title in a first blood match as a result that of course, replace fully loaded in buffalo lost one fifth of nineteen ninety nine they go fifteen and a half minutes pretty good brawl here. Awesome working as I saw fences commentary and the match in the observer got three and three quarter stars under tiger at one point hit Shane McMahon. And as a real wild finish with Austin and undertaker both soaked in blood brawling in the back in Austin came back went to shake Vinci's hand and gave him another stunner as the show was off the air pretty crazy here. What would you think of this storyline? Austin's way in those gonna make Vince have to leave the WWF this first blood match. I enjoyed a lot more than I did their summer slam match. But because it's just soda a throwaway pay per view doesn't feel special. You also had takers. He'll here. Yeah. So the so that ended up self makes it makes it a lot easier to work and in again, you know, even looking at the stipulations, I just think that I'm old school that if a stipulation doesn't mean anything, it's hard to get people back and. At the same time. The audience wasn't going anywhere. They just wanted. They didn't want McMahon's overweight because McMahon went away. Then Steve didn't have anybody to to to beat up in foil. So it was another case of okay, mitt mangoes way. Then what? And I don't think anybody thought that was going to happen. And it's it's. You need matches and you need outcomes in matches that you cannot pit. You can't you can't predict can't pick. In no matter which way, it goes you're gonna be at least excited about it. I just felt some of these stipulations were not going to happen. Meltzer would report that Austin signed on to come a regular for five consecutive episodes for Nash bridges in around the same time in makes the observer that awesome was supposed to wrestle a non title match against Billy Gunn on the twenty sixth raw in Cleveland. And that was the night after this first blood type of either with is talked about, and he comes to TV and says there's no storyline raisin while he wrestle Billy Gunn in cold match. And nobody could give him a good enough story on raising the changes mom, especially the night after his big match when the undertaker when Billy Gunn was being prepared for rock and not himself. Mets would also write quote, Jared is another story Allston did Knicks plan program with Jarrett with Austin believing Jarrett isn't over enough where McKinney says for God his position to work with him the feeling within the company is if Jarrett were to get over to the level of the company wants him to be. That Austin might consider working with him at that point. Although there are other mitigating factors there apparently personal animosity regarding JIRA, cutting a promo criticizing Austin three sixteen and saying that it was taken seriously. He apparently is still people. He doesn't want to be the person who picks here at up to a level. He has not been able to yet obtain even more awesome who is together in his real life with Deborah complained that he didn't want a wrestling angle to interfere with his real life. At didn't want to be position of not being able to hang around in places with Deborah because the two would be feuding on television. So I had not really I'd heard that thing about him nixing program with Sierra. But it wasn't until my research that I saw another wrinkle the rationalization of him not wanting to be photographed with Deborah and sorta ruining K Fe. Let's break these down one at a time. What are your member about Austin, refusing to do a match with Billy Gunn saying there was no storyline. Raise under this hour. Well, just that he didn't want workability didn't feel that coming off of what he just come off of. There wasn't in. Again. This is when you get into the trap if every week you've got a top yourself in every week has to be better than the last and bigger than the last week, you go from this big huge angle too. Okay. We just want you to wrestle a cold match against Billy. What's the story? Well, we don't have one. Then don't put me on TV unless unless I've got a story in less involved in something and they worked himself into a situation where while fuck how how do we top it? You know, what's next? I think that Steve was almost to the point. I I don't think he was over exposed. The possibly it was close to it. Because he got to that point to where what are we gonna do next and in? I those ideas come at you. But after a couple of months, it's it's not what do we do next. Fuck. What are we gonna do now? And that's where they were. So it invinci- drill that in everyone's mind, Vince McMahon to the point of Steve special, and we're not going to just put him in a match. Is not that's not gonna happen. Steve whatever he does his got to be involved in something special in forgot to put him on TV than it needs to be with the top guy in just can't be. So that he's going on for TV sake. That was the deal with villain. That was no story in reason to do it. Let's talk about Jarrett in next program allegedly overheat about the awesome three sixteen things personal animosity not feeling like the guy was over enough. Whatever the case may be and then there's the whole Deborah rankle. What do you remember about this? There was heat with Jaren going back to win. Steve worked in Tennessee. And there was professional heat there. Jeff bean, Jerry, Jerry's son. Payoffs, and in what have you? I don't think there was any love lost their head at time. Go ahead and tell everybody the story about Steve Austin opening his check from JJ when he was working on Memphis. Jeff came by and said, you stare at it all you want ain't gonna make it any bigger. So I think that kind of set Seve's crawl so he wasn't. But but also it's the same. It's the same argument with Billy Gunn as far as working with Jeff at that time, Jeff it was ice coal. There was no reason to do it. No, one could give him a story line reason to do it add into that the whole Deborah situation where it's like I don't wanna be working against my wife on TV, not one his wife. I think they were dating the time. But I don't wanna be working against her on TV when he was the most recognizable star that we had to be out in public. Everybody's gonna see. They're taking pictures everywhere in is little private life in his little than he had to himself. He didn't want to jeopardize that. So he didn't wanna do it for variety of reasons. And it was I think a lot of it. You know, it was all standing he the fact factor. Jeff wasn't in a position there wasn't. There wasn't an issue. It was gonna be ice coal. It was the same argument is Billy Gunn, and you want to keep going then go to the Deborah deal. Didn't make sense. Let's get the summer slam. Ninety nine goes down, August twenty seconds in Minneapolis mankind's gonna win the world title in the three way over Steve Austin and hunter Hearst Helmsley, but there's another wrinkle in here because little politician action. You got involved here. The match is what it is. I guess the only gets to in three quarter stars. But there's too funny things happened in this. Well, maybe maybe I have the wrong Matt's is this the one where Steve got caught in the ropes one hundred hundred on him. A belief. So because it was like, I believe that was it. Even if it's not tell everybody the funny I made history. It's a fun story it whether it's this match or it's another one, it's still funny. Sometimes you get caught Tam rose. And as you hook yourself in the ropes, and sometimes it's just as easy as it is to hook yourself in the ropes to lean back unhook yourself in the rose. We'll save it hooked himself in the ropes in just slipped down just enough that he couldn't get out. Sitting there flailing like what the fuck do. I do now and and hundred had to come over and and work the roads to get to get him out. We continue on with the match swim kinda fucked up deals that happens sometimes Audrey actually used to get sometimes get one arm of the ropes couldn't fucking get out would sit. This the second the road. This may not be as not I'm thinking about it. This may not be that the match from thinking about, but the one I'm thinking about is where Austin is hung upside down like his neighbor is call and he's just dangling upside down, and they're trying to fucking shoot around it. They realize he stuck. But now in storyline his own opponent who should be pummeling him. And taking advantage of the fact that they stock has to do a solid non heart. Oh, God damn Conrad. His opponent wanted to give him unstuck from the road. So he could win the match. Sure. Sure or cry worker the year. All right. I'll go with the symbol for Fuxing. That's what about Jesse the body Ventura funny that we're talking about it now 'cause Jessie after not anything wrestling related for feels like decades popped up the last weekend, wrestle con New York City. He was rocking the old Ventura jacket that we all grew up on from back in the day with the fringe and all that. So that was kind of a cool thing to see talk to me a little bit about the importance of having Jesse involved to your in. Why it was such a cool thing from the mainstream perspective. Well, Jesus van Jesse? You look at Steve Austin's Vegas. Steve Austin was in the WWE and mainstream Jesse Ventura wrestler-turned-politician. And now, they're all everyone looking at here. A quote professional wrestler has won the governorship of Minnesota in Jesse the body Ventura was now the sitting governor in Minnesota. And I think that people were looking at the popularity of wrestling that had transcended pop culture transcendent politics in everything that how could this happen in Jesse very controversial Jesse had been the mayor of Brooklyn park. Minnesota prior to that had political aspirations. It was also the first time that we had worked with Jesse in a long time since lawsuit Jesse had gone his own way gone to WCW. So. It was a coup to get a city governor. To come in and be a part of this major event. And the other thing that happened on that night was it was the first time that Brock listener came to a professional wrestling match in Jerry Briscoe rocks. Coach in Jerry, Briscoe were best friends and brought rock down and the rest is they say is history. A lot of things happened on that night. Well, one of the things the rumor innuendo behind saying says that Austin one of this to be become a three way because you know, they want to get the belts off on. But allegedly he didn't wanna drop at the hunter. But it had no problem dropping its Foley dimmer hearing that. I don't think that Steve end or a lot of the agents at that time felt that hunter was ready for the championship yet. And that wasn't that wasn't a stayed call that was Vince call and that was a lot of the agents when they heard that just felt that he'll be ready someday. But he's not ready right now, notwithstanding the become ready when he started dating Stephanie. No. He was ready before that. All right. Just being the dickhead because it is funny. I know when you say that a lot of the agents. Yeah. Connie ghana. You're not being fun. Ha ha. Thank you. Away. Hell uncomfortable. Did it get a win? We're doing our live show with JR. And I wanted to see you. Hold up the JR hand, your JR impression to the real JR. Glad you guys are fun. Real cute. Are y'all making fun of my face? That was like, no, why can we take your questions from the crowd? Like, it never crossed my mind that we were making fun of right? We're just making fun of his, you know, Kagan, sir. I mean, we're we're having fun. But we're not picking on on a flick shit. What the fuck? Well. Here's the thing. I've been making fun of way JR talk long before the election. What? I I do caricatures Conrad. No, I'm aware. I mean like you don't do them on the show anymore. You decided to give up not befuddling on here anymore. But you used to do them a lot, and they were phony. Got banned. Anyway, you know, lockdown your ha ha you're playing just can't be ha ha Connie my favorite thing about J R snap staggered clues burner snakes as she takes. How the fuck did. He get that. I don't know. But what was funny to me? He immediately doubled down. It was like, and what is Sassafras unin north. That is never said it, and that will you're like, well, that's how that's funny her as neither said do do in JR was sitting up there making it had his own at his own bar making Moscow mules. And I mean, you know, hey, look, everybody gay guy like me. Okay. You like an alcoholic beverage or food unwind after work or celebrate with friends, but we gotta be honest here. Once you hit the age twenty five thirty, you know, like like, you Conrad even moderate responsible drinking can lead you feel less than one hundred per se. Next day. Whereas like what? It is well I've got answer for because lack of acid for alcohol sheer neutralizes, alcohol negative effects. She can wake up feeling great. No, more headache, nausea, or sluggish lists swaggie Schnitt. The next day, and it's healthy for your liver to now the us. Cheers. You simply take shooter for capsules after your laugh alcohol beverage or before you go to bed. If you don't wake up feeling at least fifty percent better. 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What was the promo that often used to do when he would just run through all the different alcohol drinks one that sound like. They can't have fucking clue Drako shit you want. All right. Let's keep it in. Here. Also is out of action for a little over a month after the summer slam. He's got a torn L referees, a six pack challenge. Unforgiven which these triple h win the world title so magically when he wasn't ready in August. He was by September. So that's good. And then Austin stunners after the match on the October eleventh rawal Vince comes out to start the show and seems really happy overdrawing such a large crowd in Atlanta. He introduces Austin Austin, saying asshole left and Ryan not being bleeped. And then he tells her relates to come out and challenge him and to replace comes to the ring shoves down Jim Ross who gets up and hits him in Austin and triple h brawl at Austin told Ross to get in the ring and hailed triple h for Ross to slug him China runs down in spears Ross and later in. The show. This is real Austin JR wrestled triple h in China and China beats up JR the whole time that also triple h before fi in it ends when Austin throws triple h in a room with a snake. I mean, a rattlesnake talk to me though, you know, we've got we've got JR get being involved. What's the physicality, and we're throwing dudes in rooms with a snake? What the fuck is this? We out of the riot. This russo. JR kind of put out, you know, put himself in that situation, by the way that he would look Jim let you know, some cold Steve Austin was his guy in the way that he announced everything he he would let you know. Don't call strong call from call. He proud it shaped penalty shape perr did. People don't people felt that in and there was favouritism there when Jim did that. So it was it was a natural extension to put Jim into that his county. People loved JR he was sympathetic character. He didn't belong in the rain. So when people would pick on them and Steve would have to come to his defense. It was it was natural way to get sympathy on St. without having to be Steve up. The the snake shit was a boy that was a pain in the ass to shoot because the. The snake was trained to strike. And the idea was when Steve yet put in there, obviously, we had protective glass and everything in between him and the snake if you look closely, you can sure spot see it. But it was the best you know, that we can do at that point. And hopefully, people didn't notice it as much but the snake was supposed to strike. Is soon as steam got into position where he was supposed to be in that fucking snake in feel like working that day. And it was working snakes. What it just didn't feel like working that day? Each was like, yeah. Fuck him up. He got Glasser take glass down. I'll I'll strike. But that was the drizzling shits is you had nonworking snake didn't wanna cooperate or fuck with us in it. Just absolutely sucked. That's because snakes be us. Or snakes are us. Let me say this if you're sniping orphan, right? You need a full smile. Max got a patent pending formula for ingredient they help boost your total testosterone promoting greater increases in muscle size twice the reduction in body fat percentage and own amazing. Sixty four percent increase in nitric oxide, which me handy in the gym and in the bedroom. This is so fun. You gotta do this. Try your first today bottle for free just pay shipping and handling when you text the word ram of RAM ram upright. Like, you think I mean Bram the seventy nine seventy nine seventy nine that's REM, the seventy nine seventy nine seventy nine message and data rates may apply. Let's start wrapping it up here, man. We've got no mercy pay per view on October seventeenth in Cleveland. Hunters Townsley is going to retain the WB of title pending Steve Austin in nearly twenty two minutes of no holds barred match. Helmsley comes out with a sledgehammer. And well, you kind of have an idea of what's going to happen here. It's a pretty good match. It's four stars. There's tons of interference everybody in their brother is involved. Meltzer. Would call an excellent main event. Aaa God, we agree on something. Aaa two delivers a pedigree to rock and then pens Austin to win the title chat me up. What did you think about you know, this match in particular because just a couple of months prior? You know, there was rumored innuendo that Austin would lose to withdraw the Bill to now as losing on pay per view here. Do you? Remember any pushback or any problems with him putting over triple h at all no there wasn't an again, even going back to the summer cya match. There hadn't been enough with Steve in triple h to get to that point. And that was that was staves concern. You gotta have a story. You gotta have a reason in you got to get me there. I for to make sense. And also at that time there were people in there were still people that didn't feel that triple h was ready at that point Vinci's argument was gone. Damn what we put him there. No, you'll be ready. So this was like nobody's going to be ready until they're in that position in you, see if they if it works or not, and that's you know, we got to this point that that's where we got to. And he had done it. Now, the story meant more because triple h had been involved with Steve it wasn't cold. It had time to build up. So it was it was a lot more palatable. This point. Gets us revolver series ninety nine also scheduled here to be in a triple threat match with the rock challenging triple h for the world title, but the match would never take place because they hit that motherfucker with a car Meltzer would ride over the last few days. There's been far more talk about how the w we have handled the situation trying to milk one last by rate out of the same and a parody that WCW did the next night on Jim Ross, whether it was hilarious or tasteless. And obviously it was both than on the potential of the career being in jeopardy of Austin. In fact, whatever discussion there is also injury is limited to the idea that the WF has Volna Rable for the writings gap closing if Austin's careers in jeopardy as far as awesome future. If he can't wrestle the belief is that the producers of Nash bridges are still interested in doing a spin off television series starring Steve Williams in the role of J cage, the strong rumors spread that day that Austin wouldn't appear. But as many people felt it was some sort of dispeat- with. Vince McMahon or refusal to do a job rather than what it really was from when the received word about Austin knowing full well that he wasn't going to be able to wrestle on survivor series. They had several opportunities to shoot angles to explain. This fact granted false advertising is an accepted part of this business that doesn't make it any more wry than any other form of fraudulent advertising. Just goes on with such very laity is become accepted win. Let's address that before we keep moving. When did you guys know? Hey, Austin's hurt and he can't work. Well, as far as actually it was really last minute. Have state state kept thinking, oh, I'll get through this all be able to to make it work in them. By that time. You know, your Monday night has passed you're getting into it. There really wasn't time. Gay to change anything to shoot anything to make it work. Whatever we're going to do you had to do that day at the pay per view. So it was just a shitty tough situation. The everybody was put in the didn't have Steve's he had to do something that day make it work and and move on bite the bullet and go not not deal situation. But it was a last minute deal. And it was something that when you're getting into it, you're hoping okay? This is gonna work out. We'll we'll get where we need to be. It didn't and nine times out of ten it can work out. Everybody's good. But unfortunately, sometimes shit just doesn't work out. And that's what we were. Well, let's let's recap. What Meltzer wrote of this show? He says this point also was hit by car. Actually, the stuntman was hit by car. We were all in federally told that off Hatton lost consciousness. They didn't want anyone to think for a second teasing. Austin was dead. Only maimed bad enough that he'd have a storyline excuse for him not to wrestle. Talk to me a little bit about why this was done this way who thought of the idea. I'm a believe that a friend of yours out in California actually came up with this idea. And there were other ideas that were suggested that believe it or not involved. China's. Talk to me a little bit about what ideas were suggested here. Yod? Now, you completely lost me. What friend in California enlighten me? I have no idea. What the hell you're talking about? He was on stage with us with will Sasso told the whole story in LA. Oh, Tommy, blonde, you, okay? Let's see. I'm thinking something else. God damn. I'm thinking what friends I have Tommy's note friend of mine. Okay. We'll probably the listener. So Tommy fuck you you're not you're not a friend of BRUCE'S anymore. He's back with WWE and these big dog Edney. Yeah. God damn it. No. There was a lot of ship that was recommended. But I think that it it the end of the day Vinson. No, nobody knew. It was so touching go during this time with Steve's injury. You did not no not nobody knew for sure he could be out or his career today and tomorrow three other doctors as I know you're finally go. So so much shit was day by day if that last minute. Fuck hit when the car. Extent of the. That was always leave everything open. So you don't know the extent of the injuries. And and you just move on. And you go forward. That's that's the reality. Not sucky. Hoping you're always trying to be optimistic in. You're always hoping that the other side is going to be the rainbow in the Ponta goal. Is it true? That is sometimes did as it. Sure. That one of the ideas was after the car hit him he would say the car stop. And it would pop the trunk and a much aren't balloons will come out. Brana? This listen, I I was a huge task fan in w as you know, and I would have loved the idea it was going to be an Austin task you that would be great, but the the bad ass, but I grew up on a c w is now letting people know it was me that hit him with the car brother with fucking orange balloons. Them. This running thing I've ever heard. Yeah. I don't think that is a serious gesture. Well, somebody pitched it, and it was hilarious like him. Silly Colorado term, it's buck instill. Yeah. Well, hopefully happen. I do wish what happened just because it will give up this talk about today, we've covered at all. For stone cold Steve off tonight from nineteen ninety eight nineteen ninety nine one day in the future. We'll we'll get to knock down two thousand two thousand one keep rolling for two zero three. We're not done with song coast evolve. From still four years of that story. Not getting all the stuff he did outside of the ring a career like nobody else man, especially in the WWF. Yeah. He didn't have the longest run. But he certainly had the biggest rhyme. What do you think? History. Will remember often the most four when it comes to ninety eight ninety nine? Oh shit. I mean, obviously beating Shawn Michaels for the championship. That's that's the biggest thing in the the misery, man. The awesome mystery man rivalry that started there. And for this day is probably the number one rivalry in the history of of the WWE, but people still go back to well. And we hope for you'll go back next week when we bring you a brand new something to wrestle. We're gonna kick it old school, and we're going to try to do some polls this month. If you haven't already go check afoul out at Pritchard show on Twitter put him up sometime for we'll we'll crank them down by the end of smackdown. And we want you to your head to tell us what you want to hear can't promise that we'll have the winner of the poll the next week that will time to do the research. But whatever wins were poll, we'll be coming your way soon. I do have some other plans for later this year, though, we've already decided we're going to. Fearful episode. We're going to do a mankind episode. We've got off the fun stuff coming your way. We're still have hit on King Kong Bundy. But we're going to do think Bundy at some point, and we hope to do a lot more. And hopefully, you've got a little more Freetown now that you're out of the woods and all the craziness of wrestlemainia. I guess we should you know, I'm not a lot. But you know, you're telling me that you had meetings but ended at four AM, and then they convened again at ten AM. I mean, that's pretty next level. And hopefully that Pratt the norm for a little bit. But if it is I guess we should let everybody know that the last show for the foreseeable future. The no you're you're big on. I'm not saying never anymore considering what's your new Email address is maybe never say never. 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142: Stage 12 | Circuito de Navarra  Bilbao | Vuelta a Espaa 2019

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142: Stage 12 | Circuito de Navarra Bilbao | Vuelta a Espaa 2019

"You're listening to this siping podcast. I've i spy you can association with rafa the fastest clothing the world tour the home of cycling cat right and watch with them in two thousand nineteen as they partner if education i am kenyans states twelve today we are in bilbao. Hello from bilbao. M the ends of stage twelve of the vuelta spagna finished here a couple of hours ago on egyptian. We're join the line by a lionel bernie. Hello richard la folie bringing off the bench bringing off the bench tonight lionel <hes> being limbering only get get rusty saying they're being limbering up for a couple of days desperate to be involved yesterday when i heard about your two michelin star meal and then then spend laughing at you <hes> well yeah but explain what happened okay so i would say a very misleading website for the hotel in question because when i book that on daniel made the same error if you can call it very clearly states all over their website is is boasting talk of the mitchell to star chef and so much excitement. I believe selene forward to this for weeks and weeks because elites the menu for the restaurant. It didn't look very expensive. Withdrawal which with hindsight should have struck me as tilted odd anyway. We're looking forward to this day acid as we as we <hes> finished recording the podcast and you know made needs for the restaurant we we we looked to the restaurant and it's very bright lights and and you know one one way or shuffling ride this. This does not strike us as a as a one star michelin restaurant never mind to star one and <hes> embarrassingly. We actually asked the way <hes> by any explained that the the menu had been designed by which onto star chef who has a restaurant thirty columbus's away wow that's <hes> so followed was a pretty average meal are sore. <hes> i saw he photographed at dish that look to be just some stress or maybe some top tips or something very small in the middle of a large plate was that was a little bit mischievous because his life was actually about to be filled bullet. Some guests pont show which was very nice <hes> beetroot and tomato which was nice it was perfectly pleasant meal meal but it wasn't it wasn't quite the tree or the occasion that i'd be looking forward to but not enough is subsiding subsiding subsiding right yeah. Anyway is pinch pinch on the menu tonight here in bilbao. I'm going to go meet somebody <hes> sin and go right a few bars. I have a few pinch a chocolate wine and that will be part of tomorrow's kilometer zero lionel. There was a stage sage. Today i didn't see much of it because i decided to get here to bilbao early on the final climb of the day which was sort of on their skirts so power in the city itself really brutally steep little claim and grammercy lots of people as you always get the basque country and it was so steep but right as would appear and and take a couple of minutes she go past you so it was it was really gray up there but can you tell me fill me on on what happened in the state can try try richard yes. I watched it on the t._v. This afternoon stage twelve from the motor racing circuit. <hes> the secreto de nevada to bilbao as you say and i know this area reasonably well because on my previous visits to the managed to be there for these sort of stages the time-trial a couple of years ago started outed at the motor racing circuit dignity that chris from one and well it was it was aggressive racing hard racing again because it took almost one hundred kilometers in fact i think it took more seven hundred kilometers for the break to get clear and it was a big group nineteen riders in it some powerful names who who was in that jose hawking roadhouse of movie star manuela blotto astana heinrich counselor at bari maria felix gross schatten at four hundred grow phillips zubeir <hes> tim de klerk of the quickstep nicholas on some web who's won a stage of course trick second freighter had john duggan kobelco moscow go in the malaria county in their former stage winner in bilbao. I think a couple of years ago right very close by and and alex aramburu who was runner up a couple of days a few days ago now county one well yes. He won the stage that finished fifty new attacks. Oh sorry a couple of years right sorry and yet. Did you say yeah. He finished any second last week did he. Of course you're you're lost the wealthiest. I've tried and well lake away and the brake. Wasn't you know it wasn't huge. It was enough off to know that they were going to contest the the win. There was a period of time where grow shorter and scott boo gra. May of mittens dot were away together but the man of the day was philipe obama who really wrote very aggressively on the final climb and dropped everyone with about a kilometer and a half to go to the top man descended well and road on the flat well to win his six well to stage each of his career. He's ten grand tour stage. Winning held up both hands to symbolize <hes> signal ten grand to stay twins and alex allan boo got his second second place a few seconds later not much g see action on the hill. Miguel lopez standard did have a cold but rogue lich komo were very attentive. Rogue lychee really crushed people in the time-trial yesterday retains the red jersey and tomorrow the stage finishes. He's lost my choo costs which where stephon dental one for akwa blue spaw alberta contadora in in pretty remarkable fashion shen on the climate and well of course denzil subsequently <hes> confess to doping the climate selfish spectacular tequila tomorrow and i'm sure you'll enjoy it when you get there richard but today all about philip bad and he loves the puerta doesn't he six stage wins there. He's won a couple pull in the same welter on two occasions. He won the year he won the world title so just a few weeks before winning the world title and then the following year he at one stage in the rainbow jersey which i think was his first victory wearing the rainbow band so there's something about the welter and phoenix you and maybe he the <hes> he's laid down a marker for the world championships in yorkshire later this month and we haven't had any yet but our diarist james knox is sharing a room with the jill birther. We're hoping bring for some some insight into she'll win today from a- jamie's from we got his diary leaked her fastest clothing in the world tour you're the home of cycling cath right and watch with rafeh twenty-nine as they partner in i in kenyans round thank you very much indeed to our title sponsor rafeh and we will be presenting one of their wonderful peddler to sharm t-shirts once again this week and last week's winner was playing with his day on government so who holds onto the king of the mountains jersey still am after today. I bought a few nominations trickling in for pelata sharm including clem. Oh chevy who we'll hear from later in this episode. He's h writer who one of two writers i omitted when i reeled off the the names of the rightist during the brought to hear alumni nyayo vaccine development team hiking's berman action so i apologize to claim all on sports them on we'll hear from him later later on eh before i mean eighty percent accuracy on that though i thought that was good and it was a really enjoyable episode as well. I'm just hearing those. Those guys really do feel like they're kind of a band of brothers much like they went to the same school university which i suppose in a way they did yeah. It's the whole subject of development teams interesting because you i was curious about why i'm chris is what what you can learning valentim as opposed to being on a on a senior national team <hes>. I think it's interesting because you can learn how to lead the team. You can can learn to to win. You can basically learn all the jobs that might be required of you as a professional whereas if you're a young writer on you're not <hes> remco evan the pull or today chart or somebody like that then you kinda i think find yourself doing the kind of the donkey work on sometimes get stuck in that role a little bit so development teams are are are are important and <hes> you know give writers opportunity to do other things and learn other other tricks awesome skills so maybe subject will return to vinyl before we proceed with us from today's stage and the vuelta. I mentioned last night that we were getting to a nice tonight. The special guests will be joining us in harrogate and here is a clue look. Let's go to you might wanna look look for us. He's going to have it was look staged that look the ten second and but look on our other teams plans are as well lobby concerned if he wasn't tired and look guy tom and also we didn't talk about during the week. Look different definitely going to the head and neck. She gets out of a long term plan. We've had first of all well. It wasn't so much a clue as a as a giveaway wasn't their line. A lot was my wife of course the mitchelson scott sports director and we've invited him to join us in the role in harrogate on friday. The twenty seventh of of september for the biggest show will ever have done a. b. u. Me frontal thomas odoyo free and matt white and one of the reasons. We wanted to ask matt back. Could he's coming over especially to do this was because he was in our event. The the arts theater in london a couple years go on he was terrific volley wasn't he was great fun. Yeah you really got into the spirit of a totem very revealing enlightening lightning but also very amusing story so if you've already got tickets for our event in harrogate you're in for a treat if it wasn't good enough seeing francois or daniel the annual rich while i mean the great i mean my wife is very indiscreet in these things so we're hoping for more but uh-huh who can forget the story of the toilet roll and home to milan chiro chiro fields on that in the show so yeah. There's there's lots of great great stuff. I mean i mean donyell stormed off stage at that point of course can handle that sort of detail but <hes> it was <hes>. It was very very entertaining so we're delighted that matt is joining us and we've got more might wait in this episode because he's not here at the wealth you lionel spokane recently lucius wealth which they won of course with simon yates and we thought it'd be great in one of our wealth episodes to hear. 'em whites a kind of last year's wealth the civil here that in the last part of tonight's episode if you wanted to get a ticket for event in harrogate we've got. We've sold a lot of tickets already. It'd be a big crowd. Don't worry you won't be sort of just sat. I mean in the front row when you're on lots of tickets sold but still plenty more available go to the second podcast dot com and click on live events yeah and you can buy a ticket for that event or any of our november events our grand tool from from november eleventh to november the thirtieth chat bat out. If you wanna come along and do all this kind of stuff but in real life yeah that's a great way of selling it line and well today as you said earlier all about phillips. She'll bar really today. Stage and you know a of <hes>. I asked daniel yesterday yesterday. Whether there were many more seasons jesse which where the the the the main g see guys say they wasn't a day where they they really came out fight think i think there was a little skirmish today but it was another another phoney war stage for them. Wasn't it really although these claims are very very tough. The race didn't really catch fire. Among the contenders say that is if you know i i actually know what happened. I didn't see much of it but this is what i'm gathering from. <hes> you know reading thing about what happened. In speaking people will happen and but notable as well today for the performances of the the procon teams yet again am alex ambu around bureau second on the stage twenty three. I think he might be off this. Donna as i mentioned last night he's only talented climber and fernando under bar cello of skippy marinas who one of course yesterday and he was third on the stage so those teams are really doing well and you know you expect those writers to perform well in the basque country where a lot them are from. I mean khairallah or our local too so yeah very very strong performances from being one of <hes> one of the one of the features of this wealth through the i remember at the junior we spoke about how the county teams. They are really underperformed and here. They're sort of over performing. I wonder why is it might be worth looking into that little but i think one of the one of the things that's been notable about this welter is the way to stages are and the way that the race as does lend itself to the breakway having more success i mean when you think back to the jiro and and how and particularly the tour de france you know how difficult compay for the breakaways to succeed because partly you that's so much incentive for the sprinters teams to bring everything back together party because there's more sprinters. I'm i'm partly i think just the way the stages contain so much obvious but also hidden climbing if you like you know it's not it's not easy territory to to control and keep everything together. I mean in a in a parallel universe. Yes you can have a sprint finishing bilbao if i hadn't gone over that steep climb towards towards the finish but because of that climb the st riders i think psychologically ecologically isn't there something slightly different. If it was all still on the line for the stage win you might it might be less easy for you mbo visible to control and i think it just suits them time to let everything get out of out of reach early in the day or took a long time to to get clear today but gives themselves a relatively pretty straightforward sixty eight hundred kilometers into the finish without having to worry either. You know maybe a little group click away. I mean remember what happened back in cal- start with with a with the group going away and cantona clipping off to win the stage. No one is not in anyone's interest really for that to happen and so it narrows down the overall race to probably now five stages starting tomorrow with lost mature cost but just phillips you'll bear and he's well. He's his longevity. He signed a three year contract with lotto suit all which will take him to the age of forty so clearly sign of no assigned slowing down yet and it was it was an absolutely classic. She'll backstage. Today wasn't it. The you know the the climb suited him the running suited him and the way he raced it was well it was it was vintage felix u._s. Cycling instantly schober not bad. I mean he won powdery by indiana. Normally the pilot. Everybody win is quite good at cycling <hes> yeah. He's while he's he's done. Everything really hasn't end like like. I say he might have used is on second rainbow jersey later on this month. I'm certainly but yeah. It's it's not sort of insight that you know really should entice you along along to one of our lives so this isn't a really good at side yeah. We'll reveal a few more right to cyclists who good at cycling during doing the show for that well primoz regulate. She's quite good cycling as well as an asset show cycling on his own as he showed in the time trial yesterday and it wasn't the time. The second thing said the time travel was yesterday. It was two days ago days merging when you're in joining us. Yeah sorry about that rich but it's it's all gonna kick off again on las match ups tomorrow i think and <hes> well it'd be interesting to see who i think i think probably quite enjoy enjoy that cloyne and it's just a case of whether or not <hes> <hes> the the others can apply enough pressure to open up some gaps it. It's <hes> it's quite it's not it's not a classic mountain finish. I ships <hes> you would eat and twisty turny strange concrete surface and there's some some sketchy two cents on the way as well and and <hes> yeah it could be could be very similar to the finish mastula kosta where the four of them broke away and really sized each other up algebra. Two podcast team cars the back of the tax lease that said p._k. 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You made a claim a few days ago that you were going to purchase some roca sunglasses for your brothers for christmas and i wondered whether you've got around to that yeah yeah have actually lionel <hes> i have to say that one person who sadly won't be endorsing the roka sunglasses daniel free because they were among his the items stolen from his car a few days ago which is he's very very sad about that <hes> yeah he <hes> he went for the oslo sunglasses which are pretty cool <hes> there. There are a bit different more wraparound. The ones <hes> they've got sort around frames are rounder frames. M maybe set off the face of it more so they they kind of make. You look quite studious away. 'em dining oversea wanting to to look intelligent. I got a pair of those for one of my brothers. 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Series which again i wasn't sure that i carry them off but they not only do they fit really well but i think they look great and yeah very happy with with mike two pairs of glasses and thank you very much to roka for sponsoring the doc podcasts through the vuelta and if you would like to check out the range goto roque dot com slash vuelta to get twenty percents off off your order that's roker dot com slash welte and row k. spelled r. I well. I mentioned earlier in the two zero. Release yesterday called axles alumni all of axel merckx development team. I had picked nine raiders who had read for that and who are here. The vuelta alta by mistake to tailgate can heart not so delicately pointed. I i'd mistake clemency every <hes> and it was also disappointed by a couple of people including ben king the ruben guerrero who writes for katusha opposite here and he also has spent lear's with <hes> as it was action hagens berman so so apologies to them on a did manage to cash out with clams chevy the finish today <music>. I'm he's an interesting with an interest in wine as well so here's what he said at a finnish clem on i saw an apology for overlooking you in the alumni aloom night here at here from actual marxist team but you i mean quite unusually for a french writer refreshing. You spent a couple years there yeah just one year actually in two thousand fourteen <hes> i didn't hair just my lifestyle you twenty three <hes> yeah and <hes> yes i went. I just felt that <hes> niamh taking out of it did you was an experienced was important for you. Yeah you change <hes>. She changed my life <hes> yeah i have to say i have to say i did nice for years in france and but i was like i had a small like don out from like the french french you have to say and i had to see something totally different and something fun and just something totally different and so i asked to accelerate a she she can she can help me to to to to who do that and <hes> if i can ride with him and so i was super peter chitty to finally prevailed to be to be like to be pointing in the accidents teams and to be like in continental paul while to formalist <hes> euthanasia because i knew that was a super good formation development team so oh yeah and then changed my life so like i met so so much so many nice people in the u._s. I have just to say thank you to to accessible certify knowing the u._s. as you do somebody lower bucks to talk to yeah yeah now. Yes yes and the good thing i i can actually speaking english so many guys in opponents like accidents. Team is small community knocking on everyone everyone so it's yeah it's nice over the years and can keep just the idea and from the accent. Let you go and get your money because you're you're a wine connoisseur yeah so i have my <hes> my studies in <hes> in like asami saw <hes> yeah yeah i <hes> i have my own company or so in <hes> in wine tasting so so yeah you next to cycling. It's my passion also and <hes> my grandparents live in <hes> in wine regime so yes. I always kept <hes> university students next cycling and now i am oh lord focus on on the sony wind saw nice. You get you get a taste. The local week tastes the local basque famous quite wind the chocolate. When we taste tonight on on on and on i have have to say we <unk>. We saw we saw we so we go but we can. We can shitty. We all just focus on the rice. I have i have to say and but the good thing is it's just to sit about to see the area and under as they for example you can you can in has to someone to go in <hes> in the wine shop to to get the bottle and and few weeks after a few years later you can you can say oh remember the stages so yeah. That's that's pretty fiction. And what has your wealth going pretty good actually for the team we it's a lot of top ten now but we miss the victory and we have a nice leader here. I'm here to help him to have the team to win a stage so now we it stood trying every day nebr- away so we keep it like that. It's the best way to to win a stage so that's pretty good but it's tim so many race and so when you stages to to do well that was clemens chevrolet the young writer on h. E. two are on the way interesting <hes>. I don't think many french writers have been on oh not team on spent time in the u._s. Quite unusual path to take by he s he said therapy feels like he benefited a lot from it so i'm on has on network now of english speaking colleagues who can come up with so yeah we'll follow him as well on on a nomination for him already ready for peddler ducharme for week two so he may well end up on the pool who knows am by line the gone neither have have noise there while i was speaking before we heard from clem. Oh yeah wondering where you are you some some kind of bottles smashing unit in bill our yes where like when i'm in bilbao and no i'm on a i'm just so excited a bar and beside my hotel she just around the corner from the <hes> finish and wealth soon as i finish here. I'm going to go and meet n._f._l. Garate who's somebody that i know from this area who is is a publisher and he's published a few cycling books so he's gonna take me a few bars. I hope we're going to eat some pinchas. I'm gonna be up with daniel daniel as well so that's that's on the agenda tonight and we should hear from our diarrhea shouldn't we. We've just had their diaries in <hes> an ecstatic james. He's not another good day for him individually as well as for the team he moved up a couple of places on juicy so he's he's eighteenth nine overall and i think it looks like things are going in a positive direction for him. I think he's feeling better and better so he could still pick off a few more ahead of him and <hes> yeah it'll. We'll be looking forward to the claims. I'm sure i'm she'll says well who used to write for cairo. His teammate is former teammates. I mentioned mentioned already. He was up there second today so we asked if he could tell us a little bit him and <hes> here they are not james knox and nick shoots. We are stage twelve great day for the boys walked day fantastic just a mental day. Oh really we got two hundred k. For the break to go so many talks in the stock crosswinds some climb shit weather all the boys in our team during the best to try and cover moves both really really looking at how much fill phil stevie and tim date was really amazing. You know kate still jumping on move after move after move amazing and get two boys. The road sounds likely played perfectly. Bob inherent in the bush himself felt it was vintage juba away taking the win and it's gonna be nice nice celebration tonight on toxic really my point of view that shift as well. It was a hot day actually south of all our talking trying to get in some moves adam self the second thought was going to be with a few lots in the crosswinds the nice little group at one point <hes> after it was all out racing managed recoup get myself in a position for the climbs and low of as marie corner display of falstaff controlled controlling in the finale finale sarah really took tempo on the second to las tablas climbs to i even on the last one as well and only only a local and a platform lopez distance of the ball but monitor from bach and then then it was quite controlled by celerion the final so no will great day was well relief. The atmosphere not last blind was with amazing coming across the line. Full spectators are really really really nice to see great for the morale. <hes> it's a special place to cycle so great to be in the bus country great to get a little bit lucky with the weather look like he was gonna absolutely who fit down at one point book. We may have rain. They drizzling gets you cold hoping we can continue on this. You know seems to be able to falls follow keep falling the good guys <hes> and who knows what's possible but most importantly the statement the statement so really again well stage twelve anticipated the hot stop that honestly. I didn't think it wouldn't take that long for the breakaway today one hundred ten kilometers toke and say that's the longest i've ever experienced for breakway. Take personally. I was trying trying to get into myself today. A few of us from trying trying a lot is <hes> yeah you needed a lot and and <hes> we eventually did with scott getting there again and then having a great a great rod you some of the roads at the start of the stage today having <hes> spend spend a little bit tom around the area in pamplona and also they were similar roads to guam premature drain which onto the circuit look at that we we started that today but honestly i didn't. I didn't know too much just just sort of familiar. In the finale. There was <hes> it was also pretty tough and and i think only the locals really really would have one of those locals alex alberic who next teammate of mon- up there dan in the break. Oh i think he's paying off the road many times and had a podium on the on the on stage already. He's a he's an absolute really big talent and i think <hes> yeah we'll be seeing him in the world to next year and it's merited matt massively married <hes> superstrong tom but probably his biggest asset is rice craft really really smart on the bar nice how to sniff out a move and he's he's really gallup to to go with these climbing ability as well say he's. He's an all around <hes> an all around and he's a he's a great cause well local bosc fraud. When you're the boss gaza generally boys really friendly in passionate about offering smar- very hot a day a lot of mountains and we finish on the brutal on it's essentially just like bartram seven concrete slabs state that they've life. I need to to get cars and essentially off script as well so <hes> it'll be another number bay. She's <music> well another evening to celebrate food to kernan quickstep on james knox. I mean he's he must be learning a lot sharing a room with the phillips yogurt. Well staying saying just how how he how he rice is close and you know what what he's like. How we get through three the grand tools off the bye because well it must be quite quite a privilege to learn from somebody who's been there and done it yeah absolutely on. I'm sure he's even the way the gilberto target stages you know how. How does he do that. What does he does. He prepared differently. You know walk. What's his can a game on. I mean today. Tim clark was a really valuable asset to have in that in that move and you know it was a sage where the the the really hard climbs came right towards an tim two cartons. They're pretty pretty late on ashley for such a big guy. He wrote pretty well over those climbs <hes> and he he's somebody who's so selfless. You know he'd had been there purely to house albums you'll bear and <hes> he's ultimate domestique and very important guy for him today. It was <hes> his isolation asleep at one of the tracks aggravated writers who was up there and moscow you mentioned earlier he he also part of work in that and not moving and and <hes> notice that during the siege he was <hes> trek sega fruit of senate presley. He just agreed a two year contract extension. It was almost as if that was a reward for working the in getting into the today show he didn't. He didn't kinda strange in drop back to the team kart. Just put pen to paper. Just why no. I don't think i don't think he did do that. Oughta magin that was magic already lined up. No sure i mean i would think so you they don in jacksonville jacksonville. If you can get in the break today we'll give you two more years but i heard another just before we move on on line on other funny little thing <hes> i read on twitter asana had tweeted actually and the calling him the irish backstop very often lost mount on the claims. He was pretty close to being lost man today. Although although <hes> tony martin was quite a bit <hes> behind him today he was he was lost. Mountains good five four or five minutes by the the law script script group after tony martin obviously done a lot of work earlier on your got big big cheer up the climb as you them on this podcast is brexit freeze resigned richard a little of car away from the chaos more excite the wealth or that the second podcast is supported by science in sport science in sport fueled by science sir. My name's installed from team. Any in my favorite science and school product would have to be the rocket view. Spill fructose tastes great the and kazmi with n._a._t._o. 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I think is the lead sports director on the race for mitchelson scott this year but i asked him during the two franz actually if he could just run through a kind of <hes> how how you wouldn't have welter after the disappointment disappointment of simon late collapse that year d'italia in my they came back stronger and put together a really small campaign so i wanted. I wanted to ask matt white to talk us through how they did it personally. Let's go back to august twenty fifth two thousand eighteen the first day of the welte alta. How were you feeling you'd already been team sports director through the whole jiro and the whole tool we still feeling bit raring to go look look it was on the whole day for seventy four percent but we were very motivated because we knew we had an ex very exciting prospect on a hands and that was the ability to <hes> to win that we said we saw the nights what being the kind of debrief like sergio. Everyone was going on about what what caused that collapse option the last few days. How do you ensure that. It wouldn't happen again. I think we <hes> as a team but maybe the we backtrack to the jiro. Maybe maybe the tactics that are ahead of the joe and maybe a little too aggressive <hes> and that kind of beat us <hes> in thailand but we have a mentality going into the rights that we because we you didn't know where solomon's tom trolling woes <hes> and we knew do milan brunet. We had to take time when if we could to get that buffa <hes> for for the tom clouds which we knew it loose on. We just didn't know how much that was one thing other thing. You've got to get everything roy with the hydration and nutrition and those things for three weeks so we learned some eatings. Last euros will always see the wealth is probably even more important because the hottest three grand to us so we might be if we have ballpoints hydration pre and post is cooling exercises then i suppose plan was different for the wolters well we knew by the time we got to the volta. He's talked where he's tom. Trawling was and no different field as well so we had a different tactic at the walter and pay dividends so what was that tactic seems to be more conservative storms <hes> because especially when you look at the first week of last year it was in south south of <hes> spines incredibly low temperatures and you pay for those if it's <music> <hes> somewhere along the line so we were very conservative <hes> stall especially in that first week of racing and you didn't say too much of salmon until he got to the middle the rights way the temperatures were cooler and and <hes> the try and sued anymore. What did you think of the level of opposition now the welter because i mean it was pretty steady top ten when you think people pianolas seventeen race yeah it was the world is a tricky one because some guys are preparing specifically ford that the jiro jiro and the wall as a program and sunglasses walter because i've made a mistake at the tour having achieved something that the tour have crashed somewhere else so you had a different version of a variety of field there and also go with a different ambitions as well different nations and different not live is a commitment but at the end of the season some guys are a little bit tired and i had a clear break off in the middle of the the specializing talk. I think it's a big advantage. There's not i mountain stage just above granada that was a whole day in a tricky climbing and simon just kind of i necessarily in the way it was a bit that day but then lack of attila the loss stage before the rest day was way took the red jersey and suggestion at the time was is this is true early. <hes> is this. Is this sort of variation on the jiro again internally we. We didn't want the jersey in the first week. That's for sure but we'll confident tame. We had the we'll be out. We're going to control the control that rice and i think as a team we've grown a lot over the last three years and we've we've little little three grant to his and <hes> and nearly a couple as well so we're we'll convert group had there that we'll be able to hold onto the finish so did they sit down on the rest day and think. Let's see about how we can. Maybe let jersey go out because hazel had arda took the jersey copies for few days. Didn't they yeah we did and that was <hes>. That was a decision enjoy. The joint denied knows that was a great one yeah because we didn't. We didn't need to keep the jersey kind to us. We had to wear the detained detained hold onto it but sometimes it's something else on some guidance applied between teams as well and <hes> we forced other people in two chasing and <hes> we started their energy for when we was valuable so you were there seventy five percent of the time i know you were there at the start and then the finish what would what was it like the days he's off you had i came out of the race was actually close behind so when a few days and obviously had a big busy year travel wars and time for bits all the family and then back off to the always watching every everything and talking to join in the car so would he was bringing stage because sometimes the televisions one hundred percent reliable. He'd just pick up the finding <hes> veto telling you what i see on television. What was the impression of the the other riders in that race me. Galanga lopez is always dangerous and aggressive shape. The final week was what was the thinking always movie star arthrit- wherever they go because of what the stall of rising about a thing because they they just went at the level that will use to that account remember some ridden somebody reading the two and the combination wasn't working for them. They'll see if you have legs. You haven't got legs but they always worry that aggressive stolen in the mountains up putting bugs up goes goes up the road and then getting across to them that was that was a threat and that was even on to the last row mountain stage and indoor so we will we will confident bubble the very courses especially those teams with the law stage being or the last significant stage being more or less on his home roads lives in indoor doesn't it. I mean with take anything you could tell him about that day. Did he know the road really well or the whole team you the road. I think the vast majority of guys have residents in indoor. It was trying to local roads for those guys so then you every new every village they had recorded in training camp before so it was it was a big advantage because it's in that situation relation with that much pressure knowing the dissents knowing you could take risks didn't have to take researcher at it wasn't advantage on that day. What is the the pressure like at the vuelta. 'cause always say well. It's only being held in late summer slop for twenty years. I was quite quite young race in some ways. What is what is the atmosphere like the pressure like different from the other two totally. It's definitely the mush relaxed of the of the three grand tours and coincides with the spanish culture. I think we get gordon spine. They're they're pretty hard cool circling fans anywhere near the basque region nolan spine in general and then some of those ideas in in the middle of this. There's nothing much in between towns so it doesn't feel that it's a very different picture. That's a lot more relaxed for the reuters and stuff but in terms of having the jersey and as the days tick it down and you still got the jersey would have any of that tower well. We know what happened at the jiro. We've gotta just hold on here. <hes> i certainly didn't i certainly didn't and nobody joy. I think will very confident in the group we had the and again against the rebels will go up against and that will very comfort that we could we could hold on and we had a plan. They're also see to to bring adam nights in the form lost three three days and when we saw him starting to reach his best <hes> that was obviously obviously an incredibly encouraging to have him and now he only played fact on two days of the right but one on one side of this you know we were under pressure that stage in dora laura adams rod that i <hes> really was big big impact of <hes> had a big victory yeah because you mentioned the rest of the team they rule in an. I'm familiar position as well. Wasn't there yeah some fairly inexperienced guys having to do inexperience guys job. Basically three separate teams i. She and i think that's it's the we've got dave and i think it's i think people are either way under pressure. You people need to step up that file and he was on his put people onto that purchase <hes> to see what they really logging. If you keep using the same goal is in every jiro and every tool every well todd will then you can rely on them but you don't say not developing the next athletes coming running through. What was the atmosphere like when you knew that this was going to be the first grand tour on the board yeah it was it was incredible and to have jerry jerry and his wife. It's come feminist riot to to say the last week of the rice. It was <hes> he's not a normal sponsor. We have respect for the jerry because he's sean a lot of fights and awesome some. We love turning the fiber. I'm what was the party like in madrid. It was good as you can imagine in spine everything right and life pretty lightly. The rice didn't finish until doc which was ten o'clock then we say oh see why did the psalmist control and presentation and the media and then go friends and having a few bees and we had to go out to the airport which is near where we're staying and then we had a quarter light not like spanish assault and then we sat down for dinner at like eleven thirty nine and then then a few of the boys kicked on to <hes> to the official party after that but it was it was a good one and from from your point of view i mean for his grand. Tour guard was the recall and he crushes punks on june times <hes> now did he got caught smooth. It's always especially. I think our biggest concern was probably that first week. Just how how ol- the boys would react to the heat. I suppose that would be a general concern for everyone because it was it's pretty extreme temperatures and we know it like a tour down under <hes> you make mistakes quad rationally or pre imposed cooling. It'll hurt you again. 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The Pastry Pro's Pastry Pro, Claudia Fleming

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The Pastry Pro's Pastry Pro, Claudia Fleming

"Hi I'm Carla Lally music and you're listening to Radio Cherry bomb. Hi Bomb Squad. Welcome to Radio Cherry bomb. The number one female focused food podcast in the universe. I'm your host Kerry diamond today. Show is a personal thrill for me earlier. This year I sat down with Claudia. Fleming the wildly influential pastry chef and author of the last. Course the the cult cookbook. That has been out of print until now Claudia's book which he wrote with bomb squad favourite. Melissa Clark has been reissued and she's here to tell us what she's been up to thank you to our sponsors Likud on Bleu culinary schools and emmy cheese from Switzerland. Show them some love because they love the bomb squad and make our show possible before we get to this all star episode. Let's do some housekeeping Miami. We are headed your way for the next stop on the radio. Cherry bomb food for thought tour will be at chef. Lorena Garcia's new restaurant Chica on Monday. 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See that because it's not digital that it was just cost prohibitive to make many changes so they basically just changed the cover. Oh great okay. So so all the the gold. That's in there. It's all the same. It's all the same all the same. Okay great so you worked on this with Melissa car I did like we said back in in two thousand and one before. She was the Cookbook Queen. Exactly I mean that could never happen today. How did you to cross paths at that time? The New York Times was running a series whereby they would choose a chef and do six weeks. I think it was of recipes and Melissa was the CO writer so she was my co writer and and we just hit it off. She's just wonderful. Just wonderful she is just like a shining star. We love her. Yeah archery bomb so the cookbook back. You are back in a way. I mean even know you're in Long Island. You probably felt like you were many countries away. Yes when you're outside of the metropolitan area you're all but dead. I mean you know people are like what are you doing Mike. I run a restaurant like it's not doing anything. So but you know because it's not a New York. It's just not recognized as much watches things here so we always love to start at the beginning and you did not set out to become the pastry chefs pastry shaft. No I didn't know you set out to become a dancer. Yes so can you tell us how this young girl growing up in Long Island decided that she was going to be a dancer. Yeah I you know I asked asked my mom that later in life. I'm like mom. Why did why did I go to ballet classes? She said 'cause that's what you did. You sent your girl to ballet classes and you just took to it so so we just kept sending you and so you know and I developed a passion for it and and just kept going took it as as far as I could which wasn't very far where you baking and taking valet whenever little mom baking grandma's mom was was a you know it's funny because obviously I'd listen to a lot of the podcasts and I am so not that kid that grew up by her grandma or MOM's side ride helping bake this that the other thing that was not me. I was dancing but I did grow up in an talion family. Where food was extremely important and good food was just to be gotten always always? We just had good food. We never had frozen or canned vegetables. And and so you know wholesome delicious food was part of my life who cooked at home mom and she from Italy or my grandmother was okay and My grandmother during the Depression worked which was very unusual and my mother had two sisters and they did all the housework in the cooking king. And you know my mom just became a really great cook and she did like to bake as well. Did Grandma with you know now. But we saw her every week take and when she came to visit she'd Bring Fennel and pomegranate citizenry two favorite things. It was exotic for back then. I ate a pomegranate until I was like. Hello my thirties. Yeah I know that's what I mean. So they good. Food is always around and unusual. Things were around. That's amazing. Tell us the next step. So so you decide you want to pursue professionally and you come to Manhattan. I come to Manhattan. I was my sister is the most nurturing wonderful wonderful giving generous person ever. She is ten years my senior and when I was fifteen as my birthday present that year. She invited me to live with her. She lived in Manhattan and she paid for my dance classes. I know like what twenty five year old wants their fifteen year old sister living with them all summer my sister. Wow that's really nice. Yeah so I would take the bus to Lincoln Center everyday and take classes abt go to the library after classes and just read read all about dancing and stuff and so she was really super encouraging. But then you know I was in high school and I just kept taking classes blah blah. She found A. Because I mean I was decent but I wasn't going to be in a BTU or city valet or but did you know that. At the time I think I did. Okay I think I did. Yeah I mean all you have to do is look around the class and you know my legs aren't dancer Sir. Legs right like so. She found a school in Hartford. It was affiliated with the Hartford Ballet and it was a teacher training program so I enrolled in that in learned and got certified to teach which I really had no interest in so one of my instructors is there was from New York and while I was there I got very interested in modern dance because again my body type is not Ballerina. It's much more suited for modern modern dance after school. I came to New York to dance with Janet Garrison was her name and you know pick up performances performances here and there but it was the eighties and it was a little crazy and I was not as dedicated as one needs to be or talented enough. I mean can you just at a certain point you have to just say okay. This is not this is not gonna go anywhere for me. So what were you doing to make ends meet. I was working in restaurants and I- waitressing webbed it. Yes he loved it. I loved you waitress at the Union Square. Right jams was my jams. Was Your Johnson. Got My first jams was my first good place restaurant. Yeah yeah and that was transformative. I mean that was incredible. Incredible Jonathan was Jonathan. Waxman was lashed out of a jam from Alice Waters and Michael McCartney and he came east to it opened the first California Restaurant California style restaurant and it was super exciting. I mean anybody. Who's anybody was there? Like Mick Jagger Robert Redford like just every it was nuts and so fun it was just felt like the pace in the. How would the tips they were great? They were great. It was a good living really good living so you catch the restaurant. Don't bug I catch it hard but was really attracted to working in the kitchen. For whatever reason who gave you your first I break. How'd you go from front of House? Tobaccoville told Jonathan. I thought maybe I wanted cook. And he said well come into the kitchen and see if you like it and Jonathan. Jonathan was way ahead of his time and he the three women who ran basically ran the kitchen. There were women which was little unheard of in the mid eighty s and they were super encouraging and very inspirational to me. Did you gravitate immediately toward pastry. Not at all. Okay now I I want to be a cook and I went to Peter Camps and at that time it was in a two story Brown stone school back then on ninety fourth street cooking cooking school. Yes yes and it was ramshackle and it was funny quirky little place and you know it was quit two months course of three month. Course something silly like that and then I went to union square but again it's a server because as we've just mentioned it to good living it's hard to make the transition from front of the house tobacco. The House still is. Yeah Yeah but that was an epic time to be at Union Union Square L.. Yeah Yeah. He's first restaurant at the time. Still has only one probably right. Oh yes yeah for until gramercy tavern. it was his only one. Yeah what what was that like. In the early days completely transformative I mean he is as we know genius and you know the whole hospitality Taliban At that time it was still a very French seen or fine dining French right and and a super hospitable not highbrow server server wasn't the norm yeah he was co defying modern American hospitality. Absolutely yeah yeah and it was cool. It was fought like you could be yourself self and if you'd like to make people happy then that was all you need to do. And Luckily for me he recognize that in me and is pretty great at recognizing that everybody or anyone who has it and so it was just a group of super warm nurturing loving people trying to make people happy creating creating memories as we say. How'd you wind back of House? They're asked Michael Romano if I could. He said of course and I started in Garner. Shay explained explained people with that. I don't know the salutations on the salad station and glamorous as it sounds right yes okay. So you're doing guard. Maget doing Garmon Shea win win. Does the seed the pastry seed planted. Well it's GonNa take a little bit longer to get there but my personal life is now in crisis and I wanNA leave New York. It's summer I don't WanNA spend another summer in stinky dirty Hot New York so I reach out to a friend from jams which it was in the eighties. That's another thing. Yes dinky dirty huw gossip's bad and he hooks me up with this friend in Colorado in Aspen where I can go to work for the summer. Why not break so go to Aspen for the summer? And I come back to Union Square Square and Michael says to me. Well I don't really. I don't have anything in the savory side of the kitchen but pastry chef needs an assistant interested. I like sure sure you know until you have something I can slip into. I'll learn anything course. That was it. I never left but you know I was older. I started cooking much older and mind saying what are you are thirty thirty three. I was wow okay so that that's very encouraging for everybody who we've a lot of career changers. Yes out. There are people who would love to go work in the food industry. I think if you don't have it figured out by the time you're in your early Bundy's but that's not the case ever know now especially if you you come. I refer to myself as a restaurant rack. So like if you've come up in the restaurant industry it's a little different than if you're coming from publishing or marketing getting or those other things that are not quite as grueling physically as a restaurant is and also having the dance background whereby right you know just physically Armstrong and can stand for twelve fourteen hours a day and it's not that didn't used to be that big a deal. It's getting to be a bigger deal now. Now so I'm thirty one and the guys on the line like nineteen and they're throwing in playing with fire and knives like that's scary. I'm like you know. I think I'm going to stay a here. Did you have an affinity for it at that point like did you do together for you know now. Oh I was just like learning absorbing and I have to say that when I was in Aspen the person I was living with had a copy of Nancy Silverton First Pastry Book and that also contributed to my enthusiasm to want want to jump into pastry because I read it backwards and forwards inside and out into this day. She still my idol. I just think she's the greatest ever. It's so interesting you say that because we did a baker special Surveyed all these pastry chefs and bakers. And ask them who they're like. The baking hero is an Nancy. Silverton was the number one. Yeah I mean there's no one like her I mean she's just she's a genius. There's this pants down. And ironically the guy that was doing pastry at jams had been her assistant back in La. We needed to do a little. Nancy seve family tree influent. Yeah absolutely because you never worked for her. I didn't came very close not to work for her. Okay we'll tell call that part of that comes later so what. I'm what I'm curious about is. When did you start to put together your vocabulary because now grammercy not so gramercy I mean and I think that that's like this very important in that you don't get to do that right away right if you do? You're very lucky but working in restaurants is not about being creative. It's about learning your craft and practicing and getting it right and doing it wrong in learning how to fix it and consistency consistency and efficiency. Because we were regular they want it to taste the same every time like a restaurant is nothing if it's not consistent it's probably the number one. Most important thing in being a successful restaurant is consistency. So when I said vocabularies meaning like the things that you became yellow well known for that happened for five six seven eight years. Okay I mean I never even try. I never dared to try to do my own stuff until I was encouraged by Tom to do it. You you know working in restaurants will give you a very stylized version of what desserts are so I'm at Union Square and I'm there for awhile while and also in between my working front of the House at Union Square and working on the floor. At night I was stashing more Shea. Also it and so drew was opening tribeca grill and he asked me if I wanted to join the opening team there so I went. I left Union Square to go to Tribeca Grill and my late husband. Jerry Hayden was the pastry chef sous chef there so Danny Andrew Friends was that a fringe about an okay move I think so okay. I think I know how competitive it was back then. It is competitive but I think that one of the most generous things about working in a restaurant is the recognition that you need to move around and learn because as I said it's very stylized so you're learning particular styles in particular things and so when I went to Tribeca and learned all of Jerry's desserts. I knew how to make make those desserts. Did I necessarily have a good grasp of basics. I didn't feel I did so I wanted did a more fundamental education and so I went to France and worked in pastry shops in those pastries St haven't changed for hundreds of years. At Fao Sean. I was a freshman year now famous for their ECLAIRS. I had a French boyfriend who I was working in a little tiny shop and one day he comes to visit me after work. And he's like come on. I got you a stash wrong. I'm like what I have to this this day. No idea who he didn't but there I was working for Sean and did you work there. Appear was there. Wow that's fun. Yeah what's what's he doing. Macaroni no not yet. Not yet his he went to lottery. Yes yes and. That's when the macaroni Joe going back home became very famous. Then it was what they refer for to his entre me. which are those gorgeous? Well cakes basically With Mousse cake and all kinds of beautiful designs. It's so what did you learn in Paris. I learned a lot about what I didn't want to do. which was those beautiful perfect cakes and classic? I mean they're necessary. It's necessary to know those techniques but but they seem not as organic to me as what I was attracted to so both Nancy and Lindsey share from shape. Pennies were might to go to cook books. They they were just more American visions of pastry and it just just made more sense to me. I don't know it's so interesting. How all these things are kind of coming together so you you started and ballet gravitated to modern dance you know you now? You started in restaurants. You're at jams and Union Square. which really were like? We said Ma you know the start of modern American Dainius in a way that plus you shape unease and obviously what Nancy and other people are doing in La. So it's no surprise you go to Paris and to learn the basics and you're like I do modern American desert. Yeah that's very interesting. Thank you for pointing that out. Yeah that's great we'll be right back with Claudia Fleming after this quick break. Are you daydreaming about culinary school again. Make this the year. Your Dreams Become Reality With Gordon. Blue the legendary culinary school study classic French Culinary Techniques and cuisine and Patisserie as part of their exclusive nine month Legrand diploma cloned and graduate into a world of opportunity. You also can extend your course of studies to include culinary management and dedicated internships. Likud blue has locations in more than twenty countries around the world and located within some of the best food cities out their London. Ottawa Madrid Bangkok Talk Tokyo. And of course the spiritual home of cuisine and liquid on Blue Paris turning your day dreams into reality is closer than ever visit court on blue dot. Edu for more and let your culinary adventure again and we're back with Claudia Fleming so you spend a little time there though. Yeah almost a year. Yeah it was cool but factory basically there were like thirty the we romanticize it so much. Yeah but there are literally like thirty guys and me and then I was. He's thirty three and it's like who's the grandma like. Nobody talked to me like it was. It was painful for a long time. I I remember the first time I got out for coffee. It was so exciting. But it's not like I stayed friends with anybody. Came and went and then I came home and floundered for a little while did some catering and stuff and then got a call from Danny and saying that he was going to open this new American restaurant and there was such a big deal such now I mean you look at the list of restaurants opening and it's like Oh my God like one hundred restaurants it's opening each season but back then that was that was a moment and I don't know if you remember the New York magazine cover with it was a white wight cover with four black stars on it. You know the next four star restaurant question mark and so pressure. Fresher is is on. There was no such thing as an American four star restaurant. It didn't exist of goosebumps just hearings. Yeah I mean we were all like were you the head. You're the head pastry chef right. I have not answer because it was such a non you know I mean Tom will tell you he did not want somebody who had a strong style and I know that he was considering Richard Leach but Richard was not malleable anymore. He had his own style. So this is Tom Calico. Who In case you thank NCUA was he came out of the womb and went right to top chef? That's not exactly no so. I did his desserts for a long time and then slowly but surely evolved into doing mine so tell us the signatures of Claudia. Fleming desert. Well back then. It was at least three components on the play. Something warm something cold something crispy. Something soft something within creamy like just all that stuff right. I had ten people in the Pastry Department. I smuts what's now we have to me. And somebody else provided they don't call in sick yes or have to go to a birthday party or someone's wants aniversary or get a flat tire or any life. Event only got ten people in the pastry. I'm pretty sure they have that now. What were the things you couldn't take off the menu back then? The data winter or fall. It was apple winter banana summer. It was pitch. Did you serve it with ice cream. Yes yes and and originally that you know because we opened in July. It was peach and you know Tom insisted on that. Was it had black pepper ice cream. It was the days of herbs finding their way into deserts. Gail Greene hated it then. She hates it now. She has no bones about telling you she would say to me at wake you put them on their hate that stuff. I don't know because that's poopie trend. Exploring for those of you who don't name shoes the legendary restaurant critic back then for New York magazine and she would come in disguises. But now I think about it you probably all knew it was her giant hats rate and no one aspect then red hat great guy. Oh my God I can just imagine no like would tell you just straight up how it was. I didn't sugarcoat anything. So how are you incorporating operating herbs into the desert some well for me the easiest way to do that was always through ice cream or creams because there they can absorb flavor. Fat Absorbs Flavor. Very well I was never crazy about having herbs on the plate. I mean even mint which is ubiquitous. On was anyway on dessert plates. Who wants to eat a piece of mint? I duNNo. It's kind of gross. So I would infuse things things with herb flavors as opposed to putting the actual herb on the plate audit still do that. I still do that. Somewhat walking over to Union Square the the Union Square greenmarket. Oh yes yeah. Yeah yeah definitely. Yeah I mean both Tom. And Danny were really instrumental in that movement. And it stayed with me today. I mean I don't go to the greenmarket now. I go to farmers Frankish. You're out in the north fork where their actual actual foreign farms. Yeah so how long were you at gramercy. Seven years eight years. Yeah although if you talk to veterans of Grammercy people there for twenty years man right because Danny was one of the first in America to identify it as a career. Yep working in restaurants in all as if it were career you know vacations weekends off health insurance sadly still a radical idea. Sadly Adly yes. Yeah so let's go back from minute to the book so two thousand and one the last course comes out and came out at a challenging time Right after nine eleven but it went. I don't know how the early sales were but it went on to become an absolute classic was was it identified as a classic back in two thousand and one or did that take timing so I mean it wasn't even nominated for anything so I don't know there was no instagram lake. uh-huh but I'm sure I'm sure it got some love but at at because now I mean the book being reissued and we're gonNA talk about that. The book went out of print. Rent was selling for a ridiculous amount of money on Ebay Amazon and everywhere you could find vintage and second hand books and many people would contact me all the time and say do you have any bucks. I'm like no I don't have any books boomers PD one. I'll give you the recipe like we want to give it to you. I don't care that some books boxes closets. What was the evolution of this book? I wish I could say I don't know just kind of happened apart from me. I didn't know it was happening. I didn't sense it was happening until kind of email and stuff became so crazy popular. People were emailing me all the time for the book. I'm like wow. This is really weird but I have to set you know. I'm so honored that they are reissuing this book. That's a big deal. Yeah most books. Don't get reissued. I mean it has to be really major book to get that kind of treatment from publisher. Sure and no. It's it is really a great honor and when did you all decide grateful. You're going to reissue. It publisher reached out to me probably last winter. And sure if you want to read it. Yeah thrilled delighted. Yeah let's do it. And how different is the book. It's not not I'm different twenty years later looking very different looking back at the book. What what makes you crazy? I mean we did a cherry bomb cookbook and you know what truthfully. There's only one or two things that makes me crazy photographs recipes. Yes but what's one thing you look back in. There's like more than one thing you know you guys suffered some things are so pretentious. I'm like it's such two young young crafts persons perspective. I feel like but timeless I mean so many of these pictures. Well yes that would be the photographer. She was amazing. What eventually became the most popular recipe in this cookbook? Probably Tapioca the chocolate caramel tart and and the gingerbread because the gingerbread so easy to make people just love to make that super simple. What trends are you responsible for? Starting to think when you look back to that time of grammercy I'm GonNa say things on Menus still and you're like oh come on the normal tart for sure salt on chocolate chocolate which was not me like. I got that from peer from French. They were doing it. I but yeah that's so common now and that that was radical totally salt on chocolate chip cookie or something on my God. No one did that. Yup Caramel Caramel like burned Carmel. I remember Jeffrey Stein. Garten who came to grammercy with peer or May said I really liked that but the but the Karma was so dark. I'm like we'll yeah. It's not burnt sugar. It's not carnal Carmona's it's not. You know he was like. Oh Oh okay so it's supposed to be a little bitter like that. Yeah it's supposed to be better like that to balance to the super sweet sugar anyway. So you even Jerry have the idea for north fork table. In which is he gets he. Okay we were both. It's totally really his fault. We were both consulting at the time which is not a very gratifying experience. It's like kind of watching in your children. Go off to school way too soon. You know it's like it's like it's yours and then it's gone and you don't get to take care of it. So yes he. It was always his dream actually two. He spent summers out on the north fork growing up so it was always history to go back there one day and open a restaurant but not just a restaurant. You had a restaurant of an in in in. Yeah I know yeah just tack that on any around at a place. That's pretty seasonal so seasonal. Who knew how were the first few years really heart? I mean restaurants are hard like no matter or what we didn't investors. They're mostly friends and family. You know it's still an incredible challenge still amazingly challenging because it I mean it's getting more year round just because people work differently now like so. Many people can work from home so people were there air maybe three or four days a week instead of just two or three days a week and people are moving out there and living around Elizabeth Karmel who is not on the show Biz living living in. I think Saga Pornogr- I'm agansit out. Lovely Yeah Yeah. Yeah the yeah. The southfork is a little more ahead of that than the north fork but there are more and more people moving out a lot of the farmers out there are not there like New York City. Transplants like people who are looking for more meaningful life and more environmentally conscious. And all that stuff so there are many many really cool new farmers in addition into the amazing farmers who have been there for generations and winemakers. There's so much I mean it's really. It's not an undiscovered gem. Everybody and now knows about it now but still I just feel like slightly under appreciated. Were just how amazing everything is out there so you go out there. It's not easy and then your husband's diagnosed with Lou GEHRIG's disease and for job that so physical. Yeah you know. You're you're not sitting at a desk all day. You're on your feet. Yeah how how did you to even start to deal with that. I can't imagine you know. I think you don't really think about it when it's happening. You just try to get through it in. The nature of the disease is such that it changes so consistently infrequently and you're always dealing with a new stage and more and more loss loss and more it. It was just like just trying to keep up with. It was horrible. Yeah it's horrible running this business at the same time. Yeah Yeah and you know. His frustration not being able to engage fully my frustration in not being to to execute his vision adequately. It was very hard jerry only fifty when he pals. Yeah Yeah so sorry. So he was gaffe forty six when he was diagnosed. Really Young really young. I mean in a way to almost never got a chance took that northward table in off the ground than the way it deserved. I mean I've been running it longer now without him than I was with him. Yeah I hope I'm doing and proud doubt you are. Yeah yeah thanks to my partners. Mike and Mary Morales. I mean I remember when I when I heard that Jerry ahead passed away I I assume do it close the place. What made you decide to continue? I mean was your. It's your life so I guess there wasn't really a question you never. You never thought. Do I continue with this or do I. I mean I think all the time. Do I continue with this but her because as as a restaurant establishment right but closing just seems to never an option like no okay just seems like giving up. I can't even imagine so for those who haven't been to north with work table and in tells what's so special about the place and why they should all go visit you asap. It's it's kind of magical. I have to say my partners Mike and Mary Meraz. who run the front of the House are the warmest kindest most welcoming people? You'll ever meet so you kind of feel like you're coming into hard living room dining room and our front of the House. Staff is incredibly engaging in kind and sweet and very Danny Danny Meyer reminiscent of gramercy tavern. Mary's from grammercy those do make them already. Danny's book a table. I mean we bought a case and gave it out for Christmas. No I'm not kidding. We give it to every new person that starts all right so they all got the book they're fabulous. Tell us about the menu. I mean I mean it sounds so trite now but fifteen years ago formed to table was. You're surrounded by farms. Exactly I mean we. It kind of started it out there and now there are more and more farmers for us to procure amazing things from and then of course all the wineries thirty percent of our wine list is local so much good local wine. Yeah so so much has happened since in the years when you were at gramercy tavern just sort of life happens right well. Life happens but you know you you you were just sort of creating what it meant to be a modern American pastry chef and then the internet happens. Social media happens all these things and this whole world has sprung up online around pastry and baked goods. And what it means to be a pastry chef these as and you in a way are really kind of the fairy godmother that a lot of people don't know that they have I mean. Have you watched this. I distance live from a distance enemy and I feel kind of left but not left behind but I I'm so behind because I don't my life isn't isn't about making dessert anymore. I'm running a business and to be like the thought of taking out a camera to take a picture of something. Something that I do is like I can't even imagine like you do it. You move on you do. There's so much to do in a day like every I live my life minute to minute and taking pictures of it really. I don't think so if I had an assistant. Maybe she would be doing it but I mean maybe it sounds obnoxious to say. But I'm too busy to do that. It seems like kind of a luxury right. You did grow up. You didn't grow up doing it. Not I mean all I still struggle to sort of incorporate it and we have to do it. I mean yes you have a business. It's not you can't can't separate your social media out from the other media. Do you ever just step back and look at this and be like. Oh my God look at these seeds that I planted that. Nancy planted planted that Alice planted. And what you know what has sprung up out of the ground from this. I don't actually know you should should take little short. I well thank you thank you but when it's your life tend to not bright. It's just it's your life. Yeah but one one of the Nice things. I know social media so controversial these days especially just like the raging dumpster fire. That is twitter but instagram is a different thing and this This pastry club this like pastry squad that check it out. That has sprung. Up is so supportive I mean. I think you would be so thrilled. And so proud of them. Because it's lovely and supportive and their friends and their competitive in the nicest way in terms of just sort of like the grade. English baking chef. Exactly exactly like I think their competition manifest itself in that each of them sort of inspires the other to to do better and to push more creative and I yeah I hope in the course of the last course being available again you get to meet a lot of these young men they really get to sort of. Discover you and you know what you gave the a community thank you. It's really kind of you. Thank you very much. That's it for today. Show thank you so much Claudia Fleming for stopping by Radio Cherry bomb. Her Classic Dessert Cookbook. The last course has finally been reissued and you need to go get a copy of you are in Miami. Come see us on Monday. November eighteenth at Chica Sheikha for our live podcast event. Tickets are thirty dollars and available at Cherry Bomb Dot Com. Thank you to on Bleu culinary schools and Emmy cheeses from Switzerland Roland for supporting our show. Today's episode was recorded at the wing. Soho thank you to the wing. 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For Her Head Cold, Insurer Coughed Up $25,865

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06:34 min | 1 year ago

For Her Head Cold, Insurer Coughed Up $25,865

"Shocking medical bills can tell us a lot about dysfunction in our healthcare system so each month. NPR and Kaiser Health News take a look at an example. December's bill of the month starts with a simple cold and takes us on a roller coaster ride through dubious lab billing practices and science correspondent. Richard Harris has our story from New York City. There's no question that medical bills are often higher inexpensive neighborhoods. And there's no question that this corner of New York City not far from grammercy. Park is one of the most expensive bits of real estate in the country. But still you have to ask if you go to a doctor with a cold sore throat. Should you expect a lab bill that tops. Twenty eight thousand dollars. That's what a Doctor Manhattan specialty. Care just off Park Avenue South charged Alexa casten. I caught up with this forty year. Old Public Policy Consultant at an office uptown. I started getting are really sore throat and so I decided to go. The doctor are to see if I had strep throat. I was leaving on vacation that next week overseas and so I just wanted to like have some antibiotics in case. It didn't go the appointment with Dr Arroyo Fatto La he was quick. She says a throat swab and a blood draw and she was out the door with her prescription for cold. Went away pretty quickly and she enjoyed her vacation. Yeah I get back about ten days later. There's several messages on my phone and I have an email from the billing department at Dr Patel. His office they tell her that Blue Cross Blue Shield is mailing her family a check for more than twenty five thousand dollars to cover some of the out of network lab tests. The actual a bill was over. Twenty eight thousand dollars but the doctor says they won't collect the twenty five hundred dollar co-pay. I thought it was a mistake. I thought maybe they meant two hundred fifty dollars. I couldn't fathom in what university would go to the doctor for a strep throat culture and some antibiotics. I would end up with a twenty five thousand dollar bell. This is perfectly normal. The doctor's office kept assuring her and they sent a courier over to her house to pick up the check. Did the doctor tell you what tests she was running. No did she tell you that. She was sending things to a clinician rape lab. That was out of network. No definitely not you went back back and forth a little bit with the billing people right you were. You made it clear that you are unhappy about this. Yes I made it very clear that I was unhappy about it in fact she told them she would report the doctor to the New York State Medical Board the tests question turned out to be DNA. Probes that we're looking for a smorgasbord of viruses and bacteria. Dr Renita Shourie. Sorry professor of Family Medicine at Georgetown. University School of Medicine sees no reason to run them in my twenty years of being a doctor. I've never ordered any of these tests. Let alone long seen any one of my colleagues students And other physicians order anything like that in the outpatient setting. I have no idea why they were ordered. Maybe maybe for a patient in the intensive care unit or with a difficult case of pneumonia. There could be a reason to run these tests. She says the ones for influenza are potentially useful. But there's a cheap rapid tests that could have been used instead there about two hundred and fifty viruses that cause the symptoms for the common cold. And even if you didn't know I know that there was virus a versus virus be. It would make no difference because there's no treatment anyway so no reason to run these tests. Alexa Kasdan also wondered whether running these tests and running up. Her insurance. Bill is even legal. Were Show Martin an attorney in Overland Park. Kansas who specializes in medical billing says that depends on the details. There are a lot of state law issues that could be involved. And there's a Lotta contractual issues. That could be involved in this particular issue. New York state eight has a surprise. Billing law patients need to be informed if they're in network. Doctor is referring attest to an out of network provider and to warn people that they could end up with a big bill. Real state laws also limit cousy relationships between doctors and labs that could be at play here. Insurance companies also have contracts with doctors say making insure lab tests are done in network but billing expert Martin says insurance companies aren't monitoring most claims as they come in most claims processing even for something a claim like this that you and I would read it after the fact and thank Gosh. This just seems outrageous to pay this much money for these. These types of lab services are often completely automated. There's never a human set of eyes that look at the bill and decide whether or not it gets paid the lowest prices in this case about twenty times the going rate in that Manhattan Zip Code Martin says in if the throat swab had been sent to lab core which is in the network for casten lab as it would have charged the insurer about six hundred fifty dollars rather than the more than twenty eight thousand dollars for essentially the same tests. It's Dr Fatality. Did Not respond to requests for comment and even though Alexa Kosten didn't have to pay practices like this still cost us. Martin says does she may not be paying anything on this particular claim but overall if the group's claims and costs rise everyone all the employees and their spouses. Paying into the health plan may eventually be paying for the cost of this after we started asking questions about this cast carrier Blue Cross Blue Shield of Minnesota launched launched an investigation. They acknowledged that review process failed to flag. This extraordinary bill. This at the doctor's office had not cashed the check so they put a stop payment Emmett on it while they dig deeper. Martin says people can take issues like this to their insurance company or state regulators or do some of their own legwork before leaving the doctor's office I always ask where they're sending my labs or where they're sending my images so that I can make sure that that's in network with my health insurance company. Dr Majoria Georgetown suggests taking an active role in your medical care. It is okay to ask your doctor. Why are you ordering these tests? And how are they going going to help you come up with a treatment plan for me and I think this is important for patients to be empowered and ask these questions rather than face with unnecessary testing unnecessary sairy treatment and in this case also outrageous billing and what did the twenty eight thousand dollars tests reveal about the cause of Kasdan sore throat. Not a thing she says. Everything was negative. Richard Harris N._p._R. News.

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Friday, February 21, 2020 - The Christian Science Monitor Daily

The Christian Science Monitor Daily

12:57 min | 1 year ago

Friday, February 21, 2020 - The Christian Science Monitor Daily

"Welcome to the. Monitor daily podcast. It's Friday February twenty first. Thanks for joining us. I'm Stephen Humphreys. And I'm Samantha. Lane per fos Meghan markle and Prince. Harry only follow one account on instagram. No it isn't a social media site for neck fix series the crown. The couple already have enough royal drama in their lives. The Duke and Duchess of suspects are highlighting global positive news whose instagram posts feature items such as Greyhound reunites runaway teens with their families and the coral gardeners are rebuilding dine coral reefs by hand in January the couple explained that they're highlighting accounts that quotes remind us of all good that is happening in the world given the prince. Harry has accused the tabloid press of bullying Miss Michael. It's not surprising that the couple is keen to focus on uplifting news. But they're also recognizing growing appetite for it websites such as positive news the optimist daily and good news network offer an alternative to doom and gloom sensationalism the New York Times. Msnbc and Fox also intrude silos that focus on instances of kindness bravery and goodwill the monitor to shine a light on the abundance activity of good in the world at the same time. We don't shy away from difficult stories but we strive to contra undue fear and hopelessness because we believe that understanding the world's problems and possibilities moves us toward solutions now to our five stories including President Trump's visit to India tensions of some adoption agency policies the economic challenges of the Corona virus and an innovation in the mining industry. Our first story how to draw in an American President India is at the central. The trump administration's strategic vision for countering a rising China in Asia. But the country's really lure maybe the promise of adoring crowds. According to recent international polling India with its one point three billion people is one of the few countries in the world were positive views of president. Donald Trump outweigh negative assessments. Never mind that. It stands at the center of his administration's Indo Pacific Strategic Vision for countering a rising China across Asia or that the level of diplomatic and defence cooperation between the world's two largest democracies has approached that of other key non NATO allies. What is enticing. A president notoriously impatient with long distance overseas travel visit next week may just be the promise of throngs of well-wishers along his motorcade route and a Bollywood worthy event with prime minister. Narendra Modi a stadium of one hundred thousand cheering fans yet. Many regional analysts. Say the president's visit at. Its core is about solidifying. The great strides the US. India relationship has taken over the last decade. This trip really is about continuity says Bruce Reidel a former CIA south Asia analyst and now a senior fellow at Brookings. There is a very strong bipartisan consensus in Washington that India really is strategic partner. The story was reported by Howard. The Frankie in Washington for the Monitor should adoption agencies be able to discriminate against lgbtq families. Some say that the way forward is to set aside differences and focus on a common desire to help children. The question of what constitutes a family has long been mired in a cultural clash between advocates of religious freedom and lgbtq rights but when it comes to adoption and foster care the stakes may be more profound because children are caught in the middle while the US. Supreme Court made same sex marriage a universal. Right in Twenty Fifteen. The rules governing child placement vary widely from state to state. Many Democratic states have instituted non-discrimination rules while Republican states have taken the side of religious freedom. The irony of the situation is that religious people and advocates are among those most interested in taking in children those two groups more than almost any others are drawn to adoption says Walter Olson a senior fellow at the Cato Institute who adopted a son with his husband Robin Front Will Wilson a law professor at the University of Illinois was herself adopted as a child. The most important thing in my view and I think in the view of most Americans she says is to find these kids homes and permanent families. The story was reported by Harry. Winnie's in New York for the Monitor. Many of the costs of the corona virus for China are immediately apparent. But some are not one thing to monitor going. Forward is any impact on the country's assertive campaign to extend its influence internationally economically the aftershocks of China's corona virus outbreak are being felt but the geopolitical rumblings will be worth watching China's economy. The world's second largest has been hamstrung world carmakers are feeling the repercussions as our high tech computer and electronics companies. In Britain the burberry clothing firm has seen its share price hit after sales and his Chinese outlets collapsed in recent weeks global economic growth which had begun to look bit rosier after stage one tariff agreement between the United States and China is certain to suffer temporarily there have been potentially seismic political effects as well. China has increasingly clamp down even amid open signs of anger toward authorities. But there's a further question. The possible effect on China's influence abroad especially through investment infrastructure projects economic strength has been key in muting political reluctance overseas for now. The authorities fumbled response to the epidemic has undercut their image worldwide as a functioning high-tech twenty-first-century version of the old communist worlds command economies and also served as a reminder of the politics of China the authoritarian underside of its economic success. The story was reported by Ned Tempo in London for the Monitor West Virginia Mining Company is piloting a vital recycling program. It's transforming an environmental pollutants into valuable minerals and much nation is the ultimate resource for years. Us companies in the military have worried about their reliance on China for key minerals used in everything from smartphones and electric cars. Two satellites these seventeen minerals called rare earth elements set at the bottom of the periodic table with strange names like Skandia an idiom now. A project near Mount Storm. West Virginia aims to change the supply equation by extracting rare earth from mining runoff. If it works at a viable price the process would incentivize companies to clean up waters and streams while also filling a strategic gap for the United States and a cavernous lab dozens of glass containers filter. The mind drainage the end result is a handful of Tan powder with the rare. Earths work remains to be done to efficiently separate those minerals from one another. We think it's going to be much more competitive than opening a brand new hardrock. Mine says the West Virginia University researcher who discovered the link between acid mine drainage and rare earth metals. There really isn't a domestic supply chain for rare earth. This story was reported by Lauren. Belsey in Morgantown West Virginia for the Monitor. A meal service foreseen years has started slipping extra nourishment into its deliveries cards with verses and Sonnets. Call it soul food. The Carmella Perry moved into her fourth floor walkup and Grammercy Park when she was twenty four. She's lived here alone. Says her husband died in nineteen eighty seven and ninety four? She hasn't been able to leave her small studio for quite a while which is why composing sharing and receiving poems brings Ms Perry immeasurable delight a few months ago. She received a poem luck by Langston Hughes Printed on card that was slipped into one of her city meals on wheels deliveries sometimes a chrome falls from the tables of joy. Sometimes a bonus flung to some people love is given to others only heaven. The poem is part of poems on wheels and ongoing partnership between the Poetry Society of America and sitting meals on wheels which delivers poems. Along with two million meals to eighteen. Thousand Older New Yorkers every year the poems offer a bomb to the social isolation that many of the city's homebound seniors experience as Ben Shapiro. Executive Director of city meals on wheels in New York says for us. It's just an extension of what we believe that were nourishing both body and soul. The story was reported by Harry Bruin. Es in New York for the Monitor no commentary on Africa. From the Monitor's editorial board three years ago. The African Union declared with Grand Purpose. That it's fifty. Five Member States. Wanted to silence the guns on the continents on Saturday. The a you could claim its biggest success. Yet in south Sudan in that war-ravaged country the two main political rivals President Salva Kiir and his former deputy rake must shar plan to set up an interim unity government. If the deal sticks it would end seven years of civil war in Africa's youngest nation the a US once inconceivable goal could then be an inspiration. Poke conceiving an even grander future for Africa. That's a rep for the news. You can find the full length. Versions of these stories introduced issue or at sears monitored dot com slash daily. Thank you for engaging with Australia's Today we hope you'll share them with others when we return on Monday. One of our stories examines a military policy. That's a landmine issue in more ways than one what are the likely consequences of the trump administration lifting a ban on land mines even once greater safety features. Today's Christian Science Spiritual Perspective contributor shares. Hawk keeping her Bible in the kitchen offers inspiration that comforts guides and heels. You can find the column in today's issue or it's monitor dot com stash. Danny want to give a quick. Thanks Trust Star. Today's audio production team Samantha. Lane purpose and Jeff Chechen burn. This podcast is produced by the Christian. Science Monitor Copyright Twenty Twenty.

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Shake Shack Culinary Director Mark Rosati, and Jason Concepcion on Nashville BBQ and Hot Chicken | House of Carbs

House of Carbs

57:57 min | 1 year ago

Shake Shack Culinary Director Mark Rosati, and Jason Concepcion on Nashville BBQ and Hot Chicken | House of Carbs

"TASTEBUDS support for today's House of carbs brought to you by smart water great taste deserves great tasting water. That's why smart water created two more ways to hydrate with the same great taste you know and love new smart water alkaline with nine plus Ph helps keep you hydrated while all the move and new new smartwater anti oxidant with added Selenium helps you find balance for your body and mind now you can order smartwater by saying Alexa order her smart water yourself well. Thank yourself smart water. That's Pretty Smart Culinary comrades today's House of cards also brought to you by Universal Orlando anything like me. One of your favorite things to do while vacationing is to enjoy delicious food and drinks. That's why you're listening to this podcast. We'll at Universal Orlando Resort in Orlando Florida. You're gonNA find yourself of vacation. Experience variance were even your taste buds get to go on and adventure while it would probably take a whole week to try all the food they offer down there. Here are some fan favourite stops. You Start Your Day off with the breakfast the Pizza I said that that's what I'm talking about a breakfast pizza. You need to be fortified. You won't you need lots of energy you go to the Universal Hotel endless summer resort then you go over surf side in and sweets beats experience a mix of American Mediterranean Asian Fair cuisine <hes> you could do that at the award winning meet those restaurant cool off with an ice cream cone watt horry fusion universals volcano all kind kaneohe Bay tasted Italy for dinner with freshly prepared pasta at Vivo Italian kitchen then all desert satisfy that sweet tooth at the toothsome chocolate emporium and savory every feast kitchen download Universal Orlando Resorts Foodie Bucket List on their blog and you visit W._w._w.. DOT Universal Orlando Dot Com to start planning your heating vacation in today we have done it tastes <music> culinary comrades well you made it. We are back. It is House Cau- food podcasts on the Raider podcast network for the hungry the people by the hungry people I am. You're hungry host Joe House terrific episode this week very very pleased humbled and honored to have none other than the culinary director of of shake shake. His name is Mark Rosado he comes on the conversation was so good. It's going to be part one and part two part one a lot of background information about how he came to the job shake shack philosophy how they motivate their folks thanks to produce the incredible food and Burger burgers and and hot dogs that they do and of course the shakes part to we're going to get into some important stuff like all the shake shack hacks but that is coming down the line my hungry home he's part one with Mark Roddy and then none other than ringers beloved network Jason Concepcion he and Mallory Ruben were down in Nashville Tennessee and they did what you're supposed to do. In Nashville they ate hot chicken eight some barbecue. He's on to tell us a little bit about it and the also shares with us a brilliant idea he has for sharing some soup thoughts among the ringer illuminate but let's get in that belly my hobby Hamis with Mark Rosati culinary comrades. I have no <music> idea how we have been doing this house of carbs show for two years and we are just now getting around to having this esteemed guest he is a true taste taste bud. Maybe the hungriest homey ever he is the culinary director of Shake Shack Mark Roe Zadi welcome to house of cards. Thank you so much adamy. I'm really excited to be here so mark. I have probably two and a half million questions for you. I'm not sure for get to all of them but I want to start with something saying that <hes> I know will be helpful to all of our taste buds out. There were affirmatively firmly in the midst of grilling season. We had an episode last week about grilling strategies Aziz grilling techniques in the event of the fourth of July the beginning of the beautiful two month grilling season. We have none of US laureate. Please share with the hungry. homeys your own grilling strategy you for the fourth yes I love to do. I mean to celebrate the fourth of July. You Really GonNa be cooking outdoors. You have to have a lot of friends over yet. How a lot of ice cold? The IRS and you've got to perform can't have your friends. Come over and say I'm cooking our and they're. I'm just GONNA be happy with like Ideo Ker outdoor fear you gotta bring the game and <hes> I think to my favorite items <hes> they're easy to conserve our hamburgers. I got a lot of practices the past couple years working tax and hot dogs but I love about cooking outdoors. Is they actually use a grill. I used to different methods. I for me hot dog. I like to cook them over the opened fire because I love that skin to get nice and crispy chart. There's nothing better to be than a nice like Chard hotdog on a bunch. Sometimes that was like a little bit of bustard is all I did but of course he WANNA put a ton of stuff on there going nuts the burgers. This is where it gets a little tricky while while I liked the grill 'cause outdoors outdoors number. You should be outdoors celebrate that good weather. I have a hardcore riddled smash Burger purist and even even the most control perfect <hes> environment. I still would choose the griddle over a grill and the reason why is especially for our style of cooking like we're taking a ball of the putting on a hot piece of stealing smashing it down and crane his perfect fear on the Burger. You just can't get them on a grill because if you smash the Burg on a grill it needs to go right through the great that for me is that I want my burger. It'd be very juicy and I just find sometimes cooking outdoors on a grill. <hes> choose can render out it can't your entire piece of meat on the grill because you only have a certain amount of like grill slots. They're actually touching beneath the rest shifts. He will not feel the me so that you might come out and might be dry so what I like to do is while I have my hotdog grilling lily like right over the burning embers. I put a little pan on my outdoor grill and get that hot in smash my burgers on that so I'm still using <hes> propane charcoal would if to cook and I'm asking worst point that piece of steel <music> over there so I could still cook the Burgers I like now through through the just the nature of the beach there you might get a little smokiness coming off like the burning embers that might perfume the Burger which win you can't get Wiz griddle right exactly so so you can have it both ways if your friends Wanna come over behaves like Rela Fish. Yeah you got a little you can have the grill open so you could do the old fashioned way that people always associate with grilling but you get you WanNa make sure your burgers around point point. Also if you're going to cook chicken breast I would do in the pants too because again you're going to be able to fear and make it as possible to be. I never cooked chicken breasts griddle because always overcooked and it's like it's just death and the worst thing to do is go up. See All all the food you pick a chicken even go. Oh my God like eating shoot weather. I stay away from those because it is a crowd pleaser. The griddle Pan unhappier grill up your game right that this is incredible. I mean we we've already done an incredible public service for all of our taste buds out there I mean honestly could end the podcast now but but <hes> because our work here is done but there are some really exciting things going on with shake shack that that I wanna get too but I I have to begin at the beginning you have been working in some capacity or another with shake shack for over a decade now. How did you come to this job in the in the very first place I I've been working for <hes> the larger company the company <hes> that founded shake Shack Union Square hospitality group and the founder of the overall company Ah Restaurant tour by name but Danny buyer here in New York? Yes the man is a legend before I even if died in his restaurant is a kid I knew the name I knew he stood for copy excellent great hospitality then it was a little a little budding food EEK growing up in Connecticut <hes> very close to New York City. I kind of like was inspired by these restaurants. I would read about where you know the service the why the atmosphere people would say all this money just for for five hours one of these restaurants to try to get the experience. That was kind of like wow that's pretty interesting. Why what's all about finally got to go to one advantage restaurants? I did notice different. I noticed not only was the food on point I do it had to be with the reputation. Mutations do the food with deliver the hospitality the team. I mean to be honest. I'm in I'm in one of the restaurants I might have been underage at the time no one asked and I were to lavish and the third comes over and says you know this is so great so hardy it just it needs. Why and I said well? Why would you recommend it then? It goes well. You know there's a for one it's like a recommend distract as it has like this nice fruity <hes> note to might at my work with this dish but also this white here ear it has like just prayed acidity and like lambs Richard my Country Richardson. I'll pretending like I know what he's saying. I've no idea underage at the time. I can't confirm or deny but I said wow those sound good because you know what I could talk for hours because let me bring the wines over you. Try Them. You tell me which one you hit works best dish and then that's what you're gonNA drink with. It and I'm like I. I love this place. Oh my God I think what makes like his restaurants exciting. Danny Meyer is he the ideas to try to make not just about the super making a memorable experience and it's it's the hospitality it experienced white music. If it's done right when you walk out the door happier than what you walk yet and I was blown away. I walked out cooking my heels. It worked day. When I got into the business? <hes> I worked at one of his restaurants. <hes> grammercy Tavern Legere my favorites <hes> it's legendary. It's definitely a New York institution right and I never gone to cooking school like I worked at all for grammercy. I did three years in the kitchen under two wonderful chefs the first chef Tom Kalicki O of up on top show and <hes> Mike Anthony I mean it was to have both of those shots like the your teachers and different styles different personalities but in the same kitchen I always do flow the kitchen so that was like my mic my comfort blanket then can allow myself to learn new stuff in the comfort of a an environment Australia with it really sped up learning <hes> so fast bowler three years. It's now two thousand seven shake shack at this point at open and <hes> while we're gonNA grammercy. I walked back. 'cause everyone's like Oh. It's great man. It's it's it's like the in-n-out Burger of the east coast like everything's really good fresh. You tried out so I I went and I I waited line. I think I weighed about an hour and a half hot summer day and I got the Food I looked at ago God. I just wasted half my day. I got a running out. It'd be behind my shift. They work because I waited for this burger and then I took a bite and was blown away. I'm like wait a minute just look simple but I don't think I can't even bake justified. What are we doing to this thing Bruce Delicious and I was a fan? I waited the live anytime since then I was a fan and then at the end of my time of grammercy I I did not want to leave the company because I I really I believe what Danny Meyer's vision was for restaurants and also you know all that wealthy keep the cast the most important thing Danny's will is give out to each other. You make sure you as employees your site to see your other employees. If they're having a bad day you just try to cheer them them on and make sure they're they're going to get through the day be spine like this is great like I never really this in any other job I've ever taken in my life kind of lost they around but I want to grow and the only other restaurant in the company at the time the had an opening for management which I wanNA get into <hes> was shake shack all Danny's restaurants at this time. We're all fine dining white tablecloth Michelin Star and you know I just did working really hard to bill my reputation so would shake shack. Kim around <hes> the higher directors like you want that interview like Oh God. I don't know about this like I like it. Yeah I don't love it. I actually went through interview and <hes> it wasn't actually walk in the kitchen. I did fall off because all the saving the Greens grammercy tavern they were in this little shack. Who is the same purveyors? The more importantly dot hospitality that I loved was alive and well there too is just like our other restaurants. There's just more simplistic. It was just American comfort food could not be more simple more humble but at the same time really well thought out and again like the same fine die mentality that made like he's amazing dishes come to life. The grammercy wasn't making sure the affects rise. Were exciting like Oh this is this is Kinda cool. Maybe I'll I'll give it a little <hes> little spin for awhile and <hes> you know fast more to actually thirteen years this since I joined the company <hes> and it's been very surreal because I just wanted to learn <hes> people management and <hes> there was just one location and now we earn sixty countries around the world and we have over two hundred thirty eight location yeah so <hes> it's it's a incredible success story and you know the thing that you mentioned about that. <hes> intercompany you know that the how the employees treat each other you know I in view of some of the revelations over the last couple years about how hard it restaurant industry can be and what a challenge it can be for employees <hes> in the food industry to survive and and make a living <hes> it remains the case that that you know Danny's been able to distinguish his businesses and shake shack in in particular that way how of you I I have taken note out of of to <hes> you know recent openings one in Southeast Asia. You're in Singapore now and one. That's coming up yet in Mexico. How do you think about the people that are from those countries that are going working your shake shack establishments <hes> in in <hes> non U._S.? <hes> environments we WANNA make sure that they feel that same love and culture and before we even open those countries that's such a long process open. <hes> <hes> let alone a new city in America then like you add in international becomes a whole nother world and it's something we don't go <hes> into white <hes> the very first international location we open was actually are seven shack happy with Dubai we did not that was not our trajectory to make this massive drum shop so sh- like early in our career but we gotta amazing opportunity wonderful partners keep you and they said we would like to take you guys to the middle elitist and at this time we had two locations in New York City and we thought they had us mistaken when someone else but they're like no now you guys shake shack went to this location location. Well checks out over still don't believe you so they flew us out to the elites and our partners are wonderful operators. They actually operate all the starbucks. The Middle East <hes> on top of other restaurants like cheesecake factory <hes> and we went out there. We realized these guys represent starbucks so well. They almost run starbucks better than her books runs itself in America. We're like these guys are professional. They're great operators more importantly. They were great people. You know work aside. He's type of people like we would WANNA hang out with befriends you know they were cultural fits and and that's right there how it has to be for US anytime we try to <hes> we work with the partner. They have to be cultural fits because again. We want that to understand our brand of hospitality. They want to know that the most important person to us every day is not is not the guest the guesses the second most important. It's each other and either you have that mentality or you don't and if you don't want to help you learn it. It's like we want people that just naturally think that way because you can't you can't train that the we find partners like in in Singapore or Mexico City. That's that's the first part is just saying hey. Let's talk with go get dinner just if even like each other just want to find that was kind of like going on dates you know it's like circulating around the really quick <hes> because then the most important thing to us as we opened one those cities we have a wonderful training team <hes> that we send in <hes> the estimate Bryant's from the state sometimes even one of our other national shack key members to come to train but we have them there for almost two months and like cooking his easy easy. I can teach anyone how to cook a burger. Just give me an hour we got we can train that we know that business but the hospitality and really inoculating and to a new city is what takes a lot of thought through to make sure the culture is there make sure the employees are feeling the same amount of love and respect that they would get if they work for one of our domestic shake shacks. That's what we're really doing again the trainings and small part. Let's get the shack hope you got a great job but understanding our brand hospitality understanding our culture <hes> that's fill important to us and again we <hes> we have our partners. Come out very often they come to retreat with us is spent a lot of times in the shacks a lot of times with our corporate office in our leadership just just drinking the cool eight engaged to know US gained understand what makes us tech and that that that's what it really darts West that makes a lot of sense <hes> we have to talk about the food so term with with the international national footprint the <hes> the expanding footprint how much of your time as culinary director is devoted to coming up with menus that make sense in these different cultures <hes> as measured against the role the job that you have here domestically to keep innovating with the shake shack menu and keep coming up with things that are interesting an attractive to your your U._S.. Audience you know that that's goes great question and <hes> it is very different mindsets in very different world <hes> I occupied the whole connery teeth as we think about you know international versus domestic and how you look at it is <hes> each each one of like our international locations. It's kind of like it stages. It's almost like having a newborn and watch them grow up going to middle school that eventually graduating college down the road and they're all like different like little <hes> stages that they're all in <hes> the first thing like we we we just opened Mexico City <hes> and for that what we wanted us make sure the core menu the May that people have come to love <hes> like Shack Burger crinkle fries yeah one hundred percent on point and the one thing ugly here every time we open at the country as easy as good as New York. A lot of people say the first time I had you guys many years ago I was in New York City. I went to this shack in the park and like I wait forever. I got a Burger and blew my mind isn't gonNA blow my mind and we spent so much time to make sure that the core menu is as good as New York. We like to work locally to I mean if we can if he can source something. Locally we can have one of our sauces made. Locally we love to do that but the end of the day we noticed high expectations and there has to taste just like it does here so that's where we put ninety. Stay busy ninety percent of our focus but the other point is we'd love food where a bunch of culinary GEEKS nerds so we're GONNA do country as a whole new Palette of flavors for us to work with <hes> and not to we try to localize a couple of items so usually with our closing custard part of the menu which is our freshly made ice cream. That's what we have a lot of fun like Mexico City. We recently created. We're trying to shake and we spent it's so much time dialing in the flavor profile between like sitting in the rice <hes> there's coconut in there too just to make really delicious and stand out one one side. We want the authentic but the other side we know was because we're shake shack and we do american-inspired comfort food really well so the trick is like eating ourselves but at the same time being respecting amish like the local culture flavors and doing something that feels right for both of us <hes> same thing in Singapore we created a a great shake using a Pan Bentley's which is so popular out there and <hes> that to like for me for me. The best part of the job is when <hes> we have usually like a a media days where people can come in and be the first I try the food and here the story. It's when they say you know I do. I was like your Burger and I do. I was knocking to like that shape because who you guys these pant and shake and then I tasted go. Wow you guys really research. This is very delicious interface as it should. That's it that's the greatest complement of the world you know how to make our shack burgers but the play with those local flavors we don't take him and that right there could take a lot of our time at bandwith to really make sure that that little ten percent menu that that's locally inspire the almost like a <hes> <hes> tip to the half of that country. They're green heritage. We WanNa make sure that super on point to the locals that they appreciate the work. We've done <hes> so that that could take a lot of work but then back at home. You know we're not we're not doing America. We've been around for a while. We have one for <hes>. Oh my God maybe they'll close to one hundred shops in America right now to hear just bringing shake shack as as we you know what to do cities people have had they know it well they. They know of US have to go a little more higher ed if you will <hes> and eventually those international countries as as they start to get more mature than we start to have more fun we might add different menu items down the road but here in the state <hes> we do like to do a lot of special items <hes> and we actually the opened our own <hes> culinary innovation kitchen in the West village <hes> where we work out of and this this one check doc in the world is changing all the time we've done everything from our version of a chicken parm sandwich to a <hes> double dry age burger hop with a local cheese and a <hes> a smoked mayonnaise and little things like that were Korean green those all at kitchen that definitely is two point. Oh shake shack that Burger actually in a I I was not on our <hes> potato role which everyone knows shake shack for serving their burgers on exactly. That's right if you if you if if you try the Burger and and you see it'd be like it's still feels. It looks like shake shack. It's maybe shake shack. Maybe wearing a tie on the night out. You know it's a little more dressed up but it's still shake shack. If you have the day so so here we like to push the envelope and fewer resonates with our guests and then our guests our biggest fan. They'll tell us if they like something also tell us if we can do better yeah never know unless we try to. That's that's what this location is all about and we recently added added nationally <hes> chicken bike to our menu which we're doing a limited time <hes> but that was something that was born figure in New York and that's something you cannot get international but again shake shack is can turn fifteen years old this year so here for a long time in America and like for our guest back home that have been devoted have had a lot of shack burgers. We like to try do stuff to kind of keep their excitement going yeah. I'm I'm here in Washington D._C.. I was lucky enough. You guys has ran. A trial of the chicken bites that I probably devoured. I don't know fifty dozen of them. I mean that's might be an exaggeration a little bit but I I loved him now. That West village innovation kitchen is that's something that folks can just walk into off the street they can't they can't so how it works is. It's a regular shake. Shack walk in the door <hes> but Monday through Friday depending on what we have going on <hes> usually from say maybe nine A._M.. To Five P._M.. Is usually someone downstairs. You can actually go from the shock staircase. You can walk downstairs walk past the restrooms to another hallway. You'll see the innovation Guichard is a big bright side thing innovation kitchen and we found a lot of people wander down just kind of knock on the door waiver. You know we're GonNa talk to people Oh and tell them what we got going on but <hes> what's great about this here is we actually have <hes> like kiosks upstairs and <hes> <hes> questionnaire so if you try do you can actually give feedback in real time and and the bites started out that way here before we launched them and other cities tests and we were fighting further but people like you know I like <hes> but maybe too spicy some people like they're not spicy not so all that feedback we collected and kept refining as we <hes> as we started the slowly roll it out over the rest of the country <hes> but again if you come here there's always special menu on there's special shakes lemonade. <hes> we're being very seasonal right now. Actually last ball he just finish up running a carrot camomile lemonade so greenmarket cameos grown everywhere while right now that in again doing something comfort but also working with the season so you can find a lot of fun stuff if you come to this location yeah I I love it and I'm hoping that spreads so mark this is GonNa be part one of a continuing conversation with Mark Mazzetti of shake shack. We have to bounce today but I have a whole series of men of questions for you relating to the so-called secret menu at shake shack that on do we have to do a deep dive on that next time you come on but I'm going to thank you very much for today and I'm GonNa talk to you again very soon thanks to brothers. Without I can't wait for part to you can't wait either my hungry home as before we get to network couple words from some important friends I zip recruiter on hiring used to be hard. 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At House of cards any opportunity we have to sit down with our ringer. Friends are ring our colleagues use all of our beloved Hungary homeys in the Ringer Universe when they're out and about eating in interesting food cities we have them on today. We are humbled <unk> an honored we have on the line. He is senior creative for the ringer. He is the host of the Emmy Award Winning Digital Program N._B._A.. Desktop he is co host of one America's very best and most celebrated podcasts binge mode Jason Concept Si Yo boy network welcome to house of cards. Yes well how do I what an incredible intro. I don't think I've ever been intrude that kindly before it's amazing network if you if you want feel free to take that that digital clip we can put it right on your voicemail smell and make everybody listened to that anytime they call you and they don't get you. They can listen to that so they know who you are. You know what I'm saying. Can we talk talk British open for a second. We're going to go off we'll do we're GonNa do let me just word word of warning to all the taste buds. We're going to go off and do a little fairway rolling here for a minute because we're taping during the Open Championship Aka the British Open Network has a surprising little bit of insight for us so let's go ahead and do some role in my man. This is only from my mom and my mom will be thrilled that I'm talking to you because she is a golf freak freak. She considers and I'm not even joking. She considers tiger woods to be like her firstborn son. I have a Bomar and she she recently so she sent me a text. When I was nominated for the emmy it was right after tiger one <hes> the masters and it was my firstborn son won his fifth Green Jacket and you are nominated for an emmy? I feel that it's good luck my two sons. I have an actual brother who is not mentioned in the Tax Tiger and so I asked her like how I texted recently how you feeling about British open she. She says this texted me this. He's not doing well doesn't even need to mention who tiger he's not doing. Well hopefully tomorrow will be better. He likes playing this kind of golf. Course she's right. It's it's extraordinarily insightful out of Mrs Network Mama Network. Pardon me not miss mom network <hes> she is right on point I mean maybe she wants to come on the show. Maybe rolling you honestly not ready for it. She has has anything that you can anything that has happened. All the all the controversies in tires life over the past five years. She has an absolute explanation for that exonerates Tiger Woods exonerates him the whole think crashing the car that was that was the doctor. Why is the doctor prescribing these pills damn? He should have his license taken away. That's Dr Make his penis other women because he was like blacked out you know how do the people take Ambien and they sleep. This is what was happening to him because he was on all these drugs at this nefarious doctor was prescribing him and his doctor should be absolutely in jail. That's my mother's take or you know that is the plotline a big little lies. I mean it's at least the show runners big little lies script subscribed to this theory. The power of Ambien I wonder is that is that a defense style mainly is that I don't WanNa talk about going to nourish yes. I appreciate very much your Ma you giving us your mom's <hes> right up to the very second update. Tigers GonNa miss the cut at the British Open. She's <hes> tried he. He's he's just physically not up to <hes> competitive golf right now. She's GonNa take a little time. He's been traveling. He went to Thailand <hes> over the past month with his family <hes> where his mom is from but we love Thai food so yes <hes> it was it was worth it. As far as I'm concerned those worthwhile trade she's she will be you now. She's happy that he's spending time with the kids and she's a big fan big big fan. She will never miss an opportunity to bring up that he's half tie. Don't forget it she listening. She will not let you forget it. He's half tie. Why why does it have Thai? Yes that's what she'll say. Tiger Woods and she'll just be like he's half tie. Don't forget his mother. I'm serious well. let-let's talk about <hes> speaking of vacations in voyages and travels. You were very recently <hes> in Nashville Tennessee like not even a week ago right that it was last weekend last weekend and the the occasion was the annual <hes> <hes> I'm going to get a call eight or that. They call it gains con. What's it called con of thrones? It is on a thrones of the second game of Florence Convention and it was wonderful. This great time Nashville is a wild city was right in downtown so it was like I don't know if people are aware of this certainly people around the south or where this but Nashville is is the Bachelorette party capital of the world. Yes why why is that it's a great question. They have the strip down on there and Broadway which is kind of like a mini New Orleans <unk> open container you can walk around drinking and they've just kind of marketed into that space and it is it is wild everywhere you look there are Bachelorette parties. They have of these party barges and various kinds where it's like one kind of party barges like a duck boat without walls it just kind of goes up and down and it's every one of these is filled with Bachelorette parties then they have like a pedal barge which is this is too much work but this is what it is. It's like a another one of these barges where you sit and drink beer from tap while peddling which powers the barge and then they have one. That's like a tractor pulling Ling a kind of cart that would normally would be used to like transport hay bales of hey but then it would just be full of Bachelorettes and all day all night all day all night all day and night these barges go up and down and use your screams. It's wild that sounds glorious honestly and yet another reason for me to add Nashville to my to my must list. I'm fortunate enough. I'M ACTUALLY HEADED DOWN TO MEMPHIS Tennessee tomorrow. Who Do some eating down there for three or four days and speaking of of folks of tie origin and and and Fried Chicken <hes> I'm going to if the Gulf gods <hes> so reward US interview <hes> top or cured Efi barn rat who man of these worldly men with with a worldly appetite but I don't believe he's ever had gusts world famous fried chicken so I'm gonNA headed down there to enjoy joy that with him but the but I I I should I didn't build into the trip an extra little stopover in Nashville now I I wish I had having heard you tell this this description of Nashville though it still doesn't help me understand why the hell game overthrown convention would be held there it just seemed like it was just kind of a central spot that <hes> was driving distance to several major cities including and Atlanta <hes> the people in Southern Illinois Ohio region and <hes> the mid Atlantic and easy flying descends from numerous other places it seemed like and it was a party spot in the food is great yeah so let's talk about the Food I saw picture of you mallory with if <hes> Jordan recon and his wife speaking of a ringer <hes> conciliatory and and and <hes> Rigor family life <hes> and I think they were your hosts for for a one of the the finest Nashville L. traditions which is hatching spicy chicken on mannequin right? Let me tell you something. The chicken is hot. They're not get so we went to Bolton's spicy chicken and fish because the <hes> princes which is kind of like the iconic spot <hes> which Danny Chow wrote about in really incredible long-form piece here at the ringer dot com website was I think something I think a car car crashed into it or caught fire or something anyway. We weren't able to go there went to Bolton's in East Nashville. <hes> I got the chicken breast couple sides some slow and some <hes> some Greens and <hes> I got I got the light mild wild so it goes no spice in increasing increasing levels spiciness no spicier light mild mild medium high and I got light mile elements. I assume then it was freaking hot like the corners. My mouth were burning. My eyelids. Were sweating it was it was extremely hot. What about the top of your head? Did it go that far it. Didn't you know like I've had that a but it didn't go to the top of my head kind of went up to the top of my forehead. My Scalp hitched a little bit didn't sweat but my kids were sweating profusely but it's the kind of it's the kind of hot where if you keep going you're okay like if you stop if your mouth stops moving you're in trouble for a little while and also end again. Might Lips were absolutely on fire <hes> but but if you kept I just Kinda kept chewing and I was okay you know but it was hard anybody did anybody get the hot fish no <hes> no one got the hot fish. It was mostly like chicken tenders. <hes> actually Jordan might have got the catfish medium and he wiz regretting it. Oh yeah he was like through hot. He was like I should have stepped down. Apparently what so what I learned from from Jordan his wife were who are national located there Nashville was that apparently the spicer Bolton's is a little more aggressive than princess okay. It was delicious so yes have you tried. I have not because I haven't been to Nashville and I WANNA try it and it's it's hometown. I mean a few of these places have made it out of of Nashville like there are Hattie B.'s <hes> which is the other Nashville Institution for for hot chicken <hes> they're. They've done a little franchising but I haven't tried <hes> any of this because I wanted to do it in the birthplace. I WanNa do it the right way. The way that the the Food God's intended so I'm saving my hot chicken four Nashville when I'm physically in national in much the same way jason that I have never had gusts world famous fried chicken <hes> even though there are franchises all over this great country vars including <hes> Los Angeles and the D._m._v. I have not a deliberately have not had gusts because I wanted to have it <hes> in Memphis Tennessee in under the tutelage. Tutelage and Supervision of Memphis native son Chris Vernon <hes> which is exactly how it's going to go down in a handful of ace Nice Nice. I'm pro- <hes> I'm interested in what else you observe about the food scene in in Nashville besides <hes> Bolton's because obviously you know the hot chicken is the thing you went there and you and you did that but it also has a reputation for being kind of like <hes> very very diverse may be surprisingly diverse more diverse food foodwise than folks might anticipate. Did you encounter that that that was part of your experience. Well I went. I went for the staples on this time. I am going back a couple of weeks <hes> to try and spread out but I went for the staple so I did the hot chicken and then the other thing we you did was the barbecue which Nashville has its own barbecue tradition kind of like a different kind of more vinegary sauce which they have like an a squeeze bottle particularly and Martin's <hes> and then I found to be quite good <hes> quite good. <hes> did you go pork. Did you go be what was your strategy. I went pulled pork. Give me the port yeah. I'm brisket or poor person or ribs those photos. Were you try it for the first time. I think that's a sensible way to do it. Yes clan outside. Have you had Carolina Barbecue not yet no because what you're describing to an and I'm I'm interested. I'm going to look up this. The Nashville <hes> tradition what you're describing in terms of the vinegar <hes> kind of approach and and especially in that in that pulled pork vein North Carolina has a very vinegar based <hes> approach like highly highly kind of acidic sauce that goes with chopped pork and you have a Chung works which <hes> you know in a big soft squishy role and then you you you know the consistency of vinegar. <hes> sauce is is it's a lot less thick than than you're kind of what you imagine of your traditional like Kansas City thick barbecue sauce so it gets you can really coat the thing you can really soak it and if you soak it up in the bread <hes> aw pretty damn good yeah. That's what I was I was. I'm all about soaking up with the bread. My my strategy is like let's get get all these sauces and juices mingling and then let's go in with the bread and mop-up mop-up operation and afterwards. Is that something that you did on this trip. Oh Yeah Oh yeah it was great Israeli okay. Do you remember the name of the place that you hit Martin's Martin's barbecue right downtown. Oh pardon me yeah I know Martin's. It's a legend you yeah you went to the staples. Okay did the staples I. That's how I you know that's. I figured let's do the staples and then we'll branch out and figure out what else is going on there right right. Oh Yeah I have had central barbecue. Also I imported central <hes> <hes> and and you know that that was a kind of a a lighter barbecue experience. I'm interested in I'm going to have to. I'm obviously going to eat some barbecue and I'm down in in Memphis <hes> but I I'm. I'm I'm curious Prius now I. I'm surprised to kind of here that there's a different tradition different Tennessee tradition with with these cities that are not very far apart. What's your tell me Your what is your strategy when you go to go to a new city new place to explore their food seen? What are you defy? You know. If it's like what I'm going to do in Memphis. I'm going to go to rendezvous and I'm going to order three quarters of the menu. I'M GONNA go to buses. I'm GONNA order four fifths so the menu. I'm not at no longer at at at this at a stage of life where I can eat every single thing that we purchased shares. It'll be a lot of leftovers. Maybe we'll share any hung homeys that we encounter on the trip will oh happily share stuff but I think you know I wanna give the restaurant a chance to wow me both with its own like the thing that it's known for but also all a little bit off <hes> the expected <music> I want. I want to see what the sides are all about like macaroni and cheese at gusts because people claim that it's it's a transcendent guesses macaroni and cheese but I want to try it in the same will be true of rendezvous gonNA have writ <hes>. I'm going to have some beef gonNA. Have you know <hes> pork or just do it. All just try it all across the board one more. Can I ask you one more thing. You Look Great House for people who don't know house looks fucking great every time I see house. I'm like how's your eating like king literally like a sovereign of of a nation just eating the best that this nation has to offer and you look great. How're are you doing this house? What's happening three things network and I've gotten smarter? I this was the way that I've approached at my entire life. The very first thing water mortar is the elixir of the Gods and human beings are meant to drink water like you you. There's no such thing as too much water so water what I wake up the very first thing I do every single mornings. Come downstairs make a big talk glass of water that that I really believe gets things going in the right direction <hes> so lots of water heavily hydrated. That's one strategy <hes> sleep. Don't sell yourself short on sleep hungry homeys AMIS WANNA try all at the world has to offer an experience it with the best version of yourself show up well rested. I mean if you're gonNA have a if you know there's a great meal coming up in your life. Make sure the night before get yourself. Arrests wake up and have a little water and then as a sort of ordinary course thing during the week when I'm just eating for fuel yeah I want that fuel to be exceptional. So I go out of my way I have. I did have very intentional deliberate <hes> green eating during the week now that doesn't mean that I'm not eating terrific proteins at night but most of my lunches when I'm on a you know sort of just powering through my days podcasting with the best of them you know doing doing doing the Lord's worse course I am <hes> keeping myself fortified with green food and it can be in any kind of a variety of ways I mean it can be <hes> soups. It can be salads. It can be you know liquid meals with <hes> you know fruit juices and fortified with with nut milk and all kinds of stuff like that but I keep it very very disciplined during the week so that <hes> and this is just lunchtime so that come dinnertime I can enjoy myself if that's the way the mood strikes and then it also prepares me for the weekend to go ahead and and and you know do the food dude God thing that everybody expects because that's that's how I like to live my life that makes it makes a lot of sense. <hes> the sleep one is one. I'm working on. I think I'm going to get better at I do drink water. I think I need to drink more water water. Clearly I try to eat healthy to really let myself to set it up for those times when I'm just like I'm GonNa go off on a Friday night with friends or whatever it is but this is great advice and like every time I seem like my house looks freaking and criminal credibility Alex Mutual. I can't think of time you've ever looked bad to me that work. You're always the you know and motherfucking bundle of energy. You're always the driving force. That's why you would mallory are the best thank you so much and she feels the same way that you listen Irene. It's it's IT'S A it's a love affair although I did I have to to modestly observe. We had an unexpected competition for best summer eats at alive show at Caesar's Palace <hes> week ago two weeks ago now coming up on the Bill Simmons podcasts <hes> in live show form in Maori gave out her sort of summer menu and I gave out my summer menu and I'm going to humbly report both of which were delicious. Let's just put that out there today with two menus but I got a slightly louder cheer for my version of a summer menu. The Myth calculation is her her lead item her number. I mean what came out of her mouth. I she had the opportunity go. I was soup yeah. He's a soup maniacs sense for her. Yeah Soup is wonderful and she loves soup. Loves loves you. Love is not strong enough. I think just confused people. Yes confusing especially for that for the for the season yeah exactly what was it so here's number a window into Mali Ruben is she is a soup has a very passionate relationship with soup. In fact we have a soup slack channel final here at the ringer that is is mostly Mallory Ruben asking what kind of soup they have today at the commissary and then either decrying what it is or or cheering what it is and then and she'll get three cups of the soup if it's one that she likes like if it's chicken noodle or something she'll be like I'm going to get three. You know it's like a like a it's like a hedge fund manager or something working on at working on a an acquisition acquisition. She'll buy three <hes> and then give a slight review this one the portions were good. Then vegetable was <hes> mixed well enough or wasn't or etc.. She loves soup and I agree with you. That probably confuse people. I think two things there has been <hes> among the the ringer fandom yeah this sort of undercurrent this growing enthusiasm for the ringer slacks. I you know they wanna see what what the ringer people are thinking about the important things in our lives. If there was ever a ringer slack that was eligible to just open it up and make it for the people it's it's the ringer soup slack because first of all if it really is is dominated by Mallory. Everybody wants to to know what he has on her mind. When it comes to soup every single day I think it would be a wild success story? I'm not surprised at all to hear that she is the the I I don't know what the right word. Is that the dominant Soup Queen. I mean uh of leading the way she's the pied piper of soup at the ringer. This is because David Jacoby <hes> you know <hes> well upon the demise of Grantland. <hes> you know moved out to New York which is totally appropriate proprio. I'm glad you did that but <hes> the the enterprise lost another passionate soup lover by by <hes> Nia Losing Jacoby. It's unfortunate you know but I mean I. I'm GonNa talk to the powers that be the Rigor Sup- slack. I just feel like we owe it to all the Harvey homeys out there to let them see how the ring is getting down. He an idea that Jason Gallagher I had for some extra. <hes> you know some Ansari income for the ringer. That's what we think about all day is. How do we make this company more money? I'm going to pitch to you right now. Bottles please. I'm listening right along your idea. I think you're you're thinking along the same lines as I am. Great call it we call it ringer platinum all right you you pay whatever fifteen ninety nine a month and you get exclusive content and one of one of those things is an invite to soup slack where you get to talk soup with Mallory Ruben on it on a daily basis I mean she she really going to respond to people she listen. She loves to talk about soup. Is it going it's going to be like Shea on his twitter talking to the F. O. H.. Yes that's only one of the of the myriad pieces of exclusive content that will be availability available to you. If you sign up for platinum well I I have to say this <hes> it. It better be great because fifteen ninety-nine is a Lotta effing mud okay we can. We'll talk about the price point arguing about yeah yeah yeah. I'm in I'm all in and I'm ready to contribute whatever content everybody out there once it'll be golf content will be food content. It'll be a sleep advice. I'm here. I'm here for the rigor people. He s network we've done it. It's incredible insight into the Nashville food scene into the Nashville social scene. You are overdue to come on John. Thanks for coming on. What are we have to look forward to with desktop over the next month? It's it's about to be quiet in the N._B._A.. Its Own. There's only one month when it's quiet and it's August. Are you going to be doing some desktops well. If it's something big happens will probably do an emergency Z.. Desktop are right now. We're <hes> we're powering down for the summer hiatus and thinking about how to have come back a better and stronger and more focused for next season while there is another m._e._d._b.. One so <hes> kicking s and take the name sounds like the right way to approach it thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you buddy. Thank you tastebuds there. We go all my thanks Tamakwe. zadie Eh Jason Concepcion this week's house of carbs guests we will be back soonest in the meantime for part two of the podcast with Mark Rosati. I am open to suggestions hit me with your very best shake. Shack hacks at the House of cards is our instagram feed. Go on over there and bang us with a couple of baby pictures suggestion or two you can d._m.. US The D._M._Z.. 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Hour 1: Kevin Durant

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Hour 1: Kevin Durant

"Bedale podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card or four percent cashback on dining entertainment two percent at grocery stores. One percents on all purchases. What's in your wallet? DC's the Dan lebatardshow with Stu got spot Cass. We're all little bit happier around here when STAN van Gundy's jovial curmudgeon self makes an appearance want to establish during these NBA play-offs, the credentials of this Van Gundy, basketball royalty. Maybe could have had the warriors job didn't have the vision for chose the pistons. Instead and now works next to us on Thursdays shows the power Steve Kerr could've been Walton. Instead chose power money a good relationship with a good owner. And it was a horrific decision regardless. You will get his playoff analysis. Morning stay. We will go. Good morning. Yeah. That was a great intro free. She ate it. All right. Well, I wanna get into basketball stuff with you. And we certainly will over time. But corporate Michael here has told me that tickets are on sale, and I have to interrupt what we're doing. And frankly, I'm citing more and more with Michael every day because our fans have gotten real entitled telling us that, you know, the show has jumped the shark, and we're going out to expand it and now corporate Michael's initiative here is something we gotta support before we get to the content. I am wearing a collared shirt for the second time in three days all part of getting behind Michael and GI. All right. I mean, that's what I'm doing. So this is going to be a great event, I'm serious because we are doing a live show for a live audience that could only be heard at a theater in New York City. This is exciting. I am going to do weekend. Odds of Asians ally. Grammercy Grammercy theater of the mind Grammercy on may. Eighteenth. Tickets are available right now. Go to university dot com slash labrador nineteen this is the first of what we hope or many events around the country. So if you're in the northeast if your train ride away from New York, if you're a fan of us that listens in New York City police come out grab some tickets. It's going to be really cool event. There's a meet and greet included in your ticket price. We're going to have a really fun evening. And a lot of surprises are in store. We have a lot of that have already RSVP to this event. It's not just an in Stu, so universe dot com slash lebatardshow nineteen and basically tonight to party with us in New York is what it is. And so that's the sales pitch back to our previous coverage unless gambles got something important. I'm wondering since you're going to Broadway like we eligible for Tony. Or what are we doing? Can we sing? Good question. I am happy that you mentioned that because while most radio shows that do live events they just do their normal show. And people awkwardly watched them we're trying not to do that. We're trying to do an original stage production with a theater experience in mind Broadway show, I may juggle. The Tony excited. Okay. But the appeal is that you could do shots with stugatz afterward. That's what the real appeal is the rest of the stuff is just going to be, you know, us entertaining ourselves. And if that wasn't enough guys the Paul finebaum ticket and the magic a content will also be making the trip who state knows I'm sorry. That's not going in my carry on. Care. Put it in my carry on somebody to the Instagram story gets confiscated, and I can't get there. You're going to do proudly are. That's right. I'll take I am promising to take the fine. The money. That's in the fine. But I don't think. I don't think show sustained bent Gundy is the only person at this network. Okay. And I want this stated on the front end right now. He's the only one as you see all of ESPN experts experts picked the Tampa Bay Lightning to win that series through. God's your whole all of the experts. There's only one guy there's everybody all over the network telling you, oh, the warriors this. I'm not sure about their infighting. But no one saying it flatly at the network. The warriors are going to lose. Yeah. No one's saying it STAN has been saying it he's been saying it for a while. Now I disagree with him. But STAN has been the guy saying listen something's not right here. And I think there are better teams in the east and Brampton team out west that might be better than the war. What did you see in game two because I expect the warriors as everyone does to win that series. I don't think you don't expect the clippers to win that series. Do you stand? No, no, not even close that'll be that might be the last one. They get probably will. Be the last one they get. And so you saw what in game two that that would echo what you've said for a while that you can believe this team will just turn it on when it matters but bad practice habits for a season show up late in games yet. Look, I don't want to give away too much because my nuggets today are on the warriors. But I will say I don't I think what you see in game two and we've seen throughout the year is they don't really have the ability to just turn it on and off whenever they want. You know, they have had some really really bad moments this season. And they have not been able to flip the switch. I still say the warriors best is better than anyone else's best. But I'm not sure they can summon their best as easily as they think they can Mike Ryan. Or is this Michael Ryan, what is what are you getting via Email here? Are we already ticket update in our we sold out already, please? And it's Michael are we sold out your Michael now as my you've not heard this g. He's gone big time on us global expansion initiative. Sounds like Dan going to a Chinese buffet. But it's actually are show. Then you better muffled that laughter. Big boy, you'd better mother a good one. That was really good. I liked that. So let's do the nuggets. Let's do them right now. I don't wanna wait anymore right now. Let's the earliest we've ever done. The no earliest wanna please. Because I think they just sold us out in four minutes. Let's go ahead. And now time for STAN goodies top it'd be eight nuggets owning Thursday show. The biggie. It took fifteen years for this show to sell out and today, it took the last four minutes that is official this show has officially sold out. Even if we haven't sold on tickets. It sounds like we broke the browse Tony award collision Gore's, so STAN van Gundy's nuggets are warriors themes. So the third best nugget from STAN Van Gundy is the clippers is story comeback victory in game. To continue continued. The warriors puzzling struggles at home this year. The warriors lost six home games by twenty or more points more than the past fourteen NBA champions combined. No NBA champion has ever lost more than two regular season home games by twenty or more points. Oh, hey rolling around the big stuff early to better than that stand. The second. Best nugget is. Demarcus cousins unfortunate injury was the latest example of mounting injuries, and miss games that have to be affecting the warriors chemistry and rhythm. The three starters who have been the warriors core curry Thompson and green and their to reliable subsequent all in Livingston missed only seven seventy one games in the first three years of this five-year run an average of four point seven games per player per year over the past two seasons. Those same five players have missed on average three times as many games almost fifteen games year per player. Stuff with backs. The only person that this network saying the warriors will lose because of all this stuff is STAN Van Gundy. Now, he's throwing facts in your face with the nuggets and the best nugget of the week is what is up with Kevin Durant's reluctance to shoot the ball. This is now been going on for a month. Durant took only eight shots in game two the sixth time in his last fourteen regular season in playoff games, he has had single digit shout attempts. That is the exact same number of times. He had taken fewer than ten shots in his previous two hundred thirty two games with the warriors. Dan is he checked out? Like is that what that is that? I don't know. It is really really strange. I mean, this is a guy who you know on the year. He's average in. He averaged eighteen point eight almost one thousand nine shot attempts to game and over the last twelve regular season games in the first two playoff games. The average is twelve shots a game. I mean, he he's just not even a tempting to do much of anything right now. I have no idea the reason behind it. But it is puzzling. And they need Kevin Durant to be a lot better than he's been over the last month if they're going to repeat. It's happening, Dan. What's happening K D to the Knicks? I mean, it seems like it, it seems it's it's I mean, he sixty minutes talks to them and the only news item that he has PIN used was given Durant sitting there sulking not wanting to be doing the interview. He just said it was totally spaced out during the interview. And and stand a superstar taking that few shots when this surrounds them that that's the stuff that becomes suspicious right fill. It does. I mean, you just wonder if he like you said if he's mentally sorta checked out, and is just writing out the string here that doesn't jibe with anything that we've seen with Kevin Durant before even when he was in Oklahoma City, and you know, and probably knew there was a good chance. He was heading out. He didn't play like this. So I don't really know the reason, and I I don't want lock in to say, this is a guy checked out it, but it certainly could be and it's puzzling. For a guy this good, probably the best pure score outside of harden at least in the league. And he's not trying to score. So Godsey if you're like me unorganized. Don't plan things. The last minute you need tickets to a big game or concert. You don't think about until the day of I'm telling you the place that has bailed me out. The most often every time is vivid seats, vivid seats is an online event ticket marketplace dedicated to providing fans of live entertainment with experiences that lasts a lifetime with vivid seats listeners can watch their favorite teams and artists performing person, vivid seats helps fans find their seats any of their favorite live events, including sports, concerts, theater and more vivid seats offers great prices and an easy purchasing experience. 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So he switched and saved a bunch, which was awesome donlevatar. The best nugget that STAN Van Gundy heads regarding defense is stugatz. Hop defensive teams in the league defend now goes against conventional wisdom most team seeped focused. Three the top three defensive teams in the league, Milwaukee, Indiana. This is two weeks. Guys missing with my nuggets. I'm starting to get pissed off. Route. Knowingly specked whatsoever on oh my God this awful. Alright. A minute respect the nuggets my kidding dignified. NBA fired coach deserves well probably the respected. I'm getting but but nonetheless, I want to be treated with more respect this is live at our show with the stugatz on ESPN radio. So we'll get to this. Kevin Durant sound in a second. It's a stand Van Gundy Thursday, we love having the coach around and he's got a lot of information. The games have been pretty terrible. So far, they're not close. They're not interesting. There have been a couple of surprises. But they haven't been very good game. I wouldn't want to watch, you know, casually. What we've gotten from these playoffs so far, but we will talk to STAN Van Gundy about that in a second. But first a global initiative Michael has scored a major victory here as part of his selling out effort and. Our sought selling out. It's our selling out selling out. Well, it literally sold out. So don't tell me didn't sell out like it sold out in two minutes that selling out what else is it. If it's not selling out global expansion. We told New York have come drink a shot was due got sold out to got spent this entire break saying, I need a few tickets. I'm going to scalp them like I'm going to be outside the Gramercy theatre seeing how much money I can get tickets because now you're not going to be able to get any like they sold out real quick Yemen's sitting there ripping everybody in the background because it's all gone to his head already. What's face on these tickets? What is it fifty dollars fifty dollars all inclusive? No additional fees, and that includes the meet-and-greet. Fifty five zero five zero. Well, you shave the inner fifty you should have heard. Fifty. You should have heard who got during the break up because God's is played the result guy in every walk of life. Yeah. Actually said to Mike Ryan, you blew it to small theater, we should have started with the Rose Bowl. The absurd. Remind me. One five. Five. Oh, and what do they get for that original stage production? Drink a shot at tequila was to God's. That's what you get. Maybe some surprise the Paul finebaum. It's going to be there. Look, we just sold something without even knowing what it was none of us in here. We just got to produce a show. Now, Michael this is what just happened all of us are looking around like how did we sell out? What did we just sell out? We don't know what it is. Exactly. I'm not even certain I could make. So despite our global. Incompetent in every way. So let me tell you right now the audience yet. Lest you think that you're expecting something grandiose for your fifty dollars five. Oh, we don't know. What the hell? It is right now we will in six weeks, and we will drink with you afterward at the very least it's going to be a surprise to everyone. Yes. That'd be promised surprises. And we're going to be in on it. I sensed you during the break. Okay. Because you're funny and stand you have found Geir MO four weeks. You have found what I have seen in gear mo- develop over the the years here, which is that he gets very afraid very fast. And so the bigger this thing gets the more scared Guillermo gets that he's performing like, I feel it off of you already. You're already fearing six weeks from now because we don't know what the hell it is yet. Okay. Could be a little scary. Just roll with it Bill here. We'll put on a show me. God sleep. Why? It's so scary to you. Because I don't know what this thing is that we just sold out. But we're going to be in New York in a month and look at look at global initiative Mike taking a victory lap. Emails. All around the building looked at him as relations. Says relations. Mr. Williamson is name is actually norby. That's a real thing. Norby? Hold that thought. Let's sell some ads. I think we'd sell the Rosebowl Hough. I think my father just said asked them didn't. He sounds like it. Yeah. Donlevatar? Why doesn't Bob Costas? Go by Robert because he strikes me as someone who's not a nickname guy. Like, I'm surprised. He's not Robert middle initial cost us whenever he does reports. Can you imagine if he were body cautious? No way. Bob, Costas definitely has group texts. Whereas friends you like Bob AA. What are you doing this weekend? See hates that you only the people that hate him. Call him, Bobby? Stugatz. I can't even say his middle name it so fancy. Robert Quinlan Costas, all exactly. Robert q Costas. Bob, Q Kostas doesn't the group chat. Call him. 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Had an uncommonly successful acting career has he not like in terms of athletes who go into the movies is Jim Brown, the best of them that that actually arrack. Thank you. Yes. Yes. But he was a collegiate athlete. The the rock was not a professional athlete as a professional wrestler. But to go. Okay. Fair enough you want from the four majors or something like that real enough. I'm just looking for more than I'm actually asking for information on John seen like how good is his acting career been because he keeps getting part that's a big time role. He's doing some of the comedy stuff. And he's following the template laid before him by the rock doing this. When he's a little older in age becoming the action star. That's displayed some comedy chops were the van Gundy's kids wrestling fans. Stan. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. But I mean it was way before this stuff. I mean, I I grew up I'm old now. So I grew up with the haystack Calhoun and Kenji Shibuya. And, you know, Mr. Saito MAC, you know, little bit racist back then with the restaurants. Ration-, but but the wrestling itself. Yeah, we grew up with what was the most racist. Like, I thought it was. Well, let me on those Japanese guys. I mean, you know, we're we're all. Fortunate. So fortunate. Junkyard dog. A blue question whitewashing or triple I batter. Here's a blue one. Its success is going to Michael's head. I'll get to the content in a second. But it's going to his head. And and sometimes the magic creative content serves him, and he just sold out our show, he sold the show out literally and sold our soul, and it happened very quickly here. And now the fans are mad at us. Okay. And I'll get to that in a second. Also, get a fan despite being mad at us willing to pay seventeen hundred dollars to get them to come to his wedding. Because evidently, you guys will just give us money. Even when we don't want it because we don't know just sold out any sold out for fifty dollars. What's the question? Seventeen hundred American dollars who is the most famous person you have ever met who was the most famous person you have ever met man begging me for that. Michael Jordan story in China. It's a pretty good one that is against Michael, Jordan. Then. George r r Martin. I mean, that's pretty good right now, pretty good, STAN. How about you who would be the most famous person you've ever had in your company, Barack Obama the home? And I mean, Jack white. Last stand gun ended who's winning this Martin summers is Barack Obama beat Michael Jordan? I don't even know does he cues? I met Michael Jordan too. So. Pocketing with Michael Jordan. Did you go to China with Michael Jordan? I did not know didn't go to well, actually, I have been to China. But not with Michael Jordan, probably Mr. Petar for me. That's the president of the company. Thank you, my so Billy I want to get into. This was a blatant suck up. Right. These eight. He is running afoul of everyone. Here it stand was here. I by the way, the relationship between STAN and Mike has been tense forever. Right. Like you guys. He he he disrespects you, Doug. It's you don't like it does do that. And then I, you know, and then I disrespected Baker Mayfield his his God his icon. So yeah, we've had our moments disrespected him by denying that he had the good student, and he proved you wrong by setting a passing touchdown record for rookie. Despite not starting all six Louis Riddick says the Browns are going to win eleven games this season. Boy, good. I thought you were going to fall for the Photoshop Photoshop that big capita there. Eleven games. So the spring into action. Thank you for all was protecting me to our fans who are upset right now. We will get to this. Kevin Durant stuff in a sec. Okay. Our apologies. I'm going to be as transparent about this is honest and vulnerable about this is I can be okay. We are very proud that. You support is the way you do. We cannot believe that you do. So honestly because we don't know what we just sold out. We just told you we were coming to New York. And you've you gave us fifty dollars. A mean as yelling he's yelling back there that how could you guys get fifty dollars? You didn't even tell people what it was. And here's the only people who were upset. I can't get tickets. I can't give you my fifty dollars for this thing. I don't know what it is. I can't give you. So now, they're mad at us. Because they think we're laughing at them. We are not laughing at him. We did not expect any of that to happen. It was totally vulnerable. We don't know what we're doing. We make it proof every day that we're stumbling around and it was hugely vulnerable. So you supporting it makes us feel. Hugely supported we didn't mean to upset all of you people who were trying to give fifty dollars even though we didn't tell you. What the hell it was. But stugotz has spent the entire damn break. My figuring out how now because he's just got access to this. How does he get people to just pay fifty dollars to Senator table and drink with him? And how does he make it just go through like a turnstile where he could just sit there having drinks fifty dollars a shot while there's still hope I off because if you find me in the surrounding area before the event, those fifty dollar tickets, I will have them on me. It will cost you one hundred and fifty dollars. But I will have the, mommy. So there's still hope there's still a chance, but people are offering me two hundred dollars just to do a shot with me. That's all they want to do is just to shot with me. And I have to take that money. It's harmful. Dollars you sold only for fifty dollars the ability to be near Stu gods. Drinking. The army was just going back round. Second mortgages. Everyone in the army as a second mortgage. Now. Now, Michael you said that they're going to be VIP experiences to the people have to pay extra for those VIP experience. It was a flat rate of everything is inclusive. Everything we don't know that it is. Everyone's VIP. So fifty dollars covers everything. Yeah. You get the meet-and-greet, and we will have some special edition merch specially made for that. That doesn't come with. You're gonna have to pay extra now that we know what the smart is. How can everyone be a VIP because we're gonna treat them all like, we only sold five hundred tickets and the rest of the people get left out. Whoa. Don't poop who've only five hundred this is a big time venue in New York City. It's a famous venue the grammars when I was there touring the venue deciding whether or not we should do this. This is one all this executive stuff started happening right there. I was there touring Judd appetite was playing the Gramercy theatre. I'm not sure if he sold it out in two minutes like we did. Are we today or well? Here's the thing. No. I understand that this has been totally self absorbed. But now, I'm going to get even more self absorbed as it relates to you Billy in keeping with this thing. That's happened around the show that none of us expected fifteen years ago, if we're being totally honest, none of us sought any of this. You just got offered by a guy who keeps upping his price seventeen hundred dollars in gift cards to go to your wedding. Now, you think about that for a second. Who who is that person? Why is that happening and how high is that person going to go because I heard you talking to Mike? What do I do? I don't know what to do and Michael's response. Was you take it what you do on the day of love is you sell out there too. That was that was off the record. I said you tell them chicken or beef. But on the record there's a compliance video on this very. The value is over seventy dollars. So well, here's my video for compliance. You tell them seventeen hundred dollars straight cash, and he's in a guy that's out thinking about renewing my vows of that. It's a strange situation because I keep getting sent messages, and it started at something like five hundred dollars. And then it was even explained to me how it was going to be broken down and gift cards. So it's going to be twenty dollars gift card fifty dollars gift card, and honestly, I don't know who has access to all these gift cards. We're just kind of suspicious to begin with. But I haven't responded once and about once every three or four days, I get a new offer. And every time it's the final offer. And every offer is so much more than the last. And I think now we're by up to seventeen hundred dollars. No, plus one I don't even remember what the last thing was I didn't know what to tell this person. You better talk has better talk to your fiancee. Listen to me gift cards are a funny game though because these could be gift cards. You know, what I mean, he just has been evident filled with gift cards with no value that he took from public on the poll gift you can give cards be a funny game. Still wants a new boat time for some more ads is right about that. Then you gotta check you get a scan the gift card to make sure that it's actually money on the gift card. Don't ask me. Why? No so much about this. I heard it from I want you to look at how look look at Michael he's not even paying attention to the show anymore. He's just taking a victory lap. All around the building through Email. He's just getting patted on the back. He's loving it. He has had this reinforced. Now, his big executive venture that went to New York to put together this thing that none of us know what it is just sold out in two minutes. Looking at me. I'd like to have our producer bag. I would to the official timekeeper of the NBA is also the official timekeeper. Man. He is. A couple of steps from Petar donlevatar. I feel terrible. Here's thing with you. You don't actually feel terrible. I didn't feel thank you know. You really care. I know you announcing I feel terrible. As just your way to move onto the next terrible thing, you're gonna do to guts. They're just words and words mean nothing they don't mean. Nothing. His words me words. Nothing words are just transitions to your next lie. That's so right. They're not words. They are bridges to lies these live at our show with this two guys on ESPN radio. So this Kevin Durant sound, and I have found the warriors fascinating for a number of different reasons. They remain fascinating to me. Although those Miami Heat team sort of changed the paradigm in terms of how we covered basketball where every week during the regular season, somehow meant something, I know a lot of people are tired of the warriors. It seems like the warriors are tired of the warriors. Kevin Durant sound here. This is not how he could have expected this to go where he'd wind the. Championships. But at the end he'd be pissed off at everybody snarling and everybody yelling at the media and doing something. And I remember when STAN Van Gundy didn't like that the circus show that the Miami Heat did with LeBron and Wade and Bosch coming out the way they did. I remember STAN Van Gundy loving the way. Kevin durant? Did it just went to the gym and re-signed quiet extension and stand you love that that that was you don't have any time for all the pomp and ceremony. You just love the Kevin Durant. Was that guy? He ain't that guy anymore. Like, whatever it is. You thought that was this Golden State experience. He's become a champion. But he's bitter. Like, this doesn't seem like it's been happy to him in any way stand. Like just he thought it was going to be something different. Yeah. I thought the first year when they you know, that he was there and they won the championship. I thought he was extremely happy last year a little less, so and you're right. This. Year. Does not seem like it's been a good experience whatsoever for him. So I'm going to play this sound from Durant because it's a fairly amazing thing to say if I told you three years ago. Hey, look, this is what's going to happen that guy that just lost to Golden State? He had them up three one. And now he's going to go join them and that team when he gets there is going to win and win again. And then be good enough to clearly win again. But at the end, he's going to be so tired of at all that he doesn't want to be around it anymore. And he's not taking shots in games that team that was doing plenty of winning before he got there. Correct. And so the the store has been interesting to see him sort of swallowed somehow by the winning and spinning at people. But before we get to that corporate Michael Ryan has been taking. He has been taking big three lap around the company because he he sold our soul in in two minutes sold our soul in two minutes and he's taking a victory lap. And he just wants to make he wants to thank the fans real quick. Yeah. Well, look, especially for me. It hasn't been an easy. Couple of weeks. I've seen the mentions and I've seen the red at and you guys are obviously very mad at the direction the shows go on. But yet still you support our show it, it's it's true. Global expansion initiative. We're trying to grow this and do stuff for you also to sell this thing out in two minutes. I'd really just from the bottom. My heart would like to thank all the fans out there for nothing. Into. I've been waiting for someone to sell out with years. Okay. He just left the room after nodding his tie and the camera. Roy can you play this? Kevin Durant sound for the audience, please. Because STAN I I'd be curious. What your thoughts were on? Kevin Durant reminding everyone that Patrick Beverley is not Kevin Durant. I get the ball. Patrick Beverley who's up underneath me, definitely shoot. Over the top score. Every time a one on one situation, but we got his chopping and help. And then we've got another guy that's sitting on the way from you to the basketball with the basketball and the floor. I you know, I could probably make forty three percent on my shots if I shoot shooting like that. But that's not really won't do nothing the outcome of a game. You know, 'cause we got a nice floor by touching a rough by shooting scoring. So I'm not going. I'm not going to get in the way of the game. Because you know, I want to have a little back and forth. Patrick beverley. I'm Kevin Durant. No way. The end of that. Stan, I'm Kevin Durant. I've got no time for Patrick Beverley. I actually liked it. I liked the fact I not that. I don't like him being disrespectful to Patrick Beverley. And I'm not even sure that's what he meant to be. But it was just this idea that, you know, hey, somebody can stop me come on. You know, what he makes? He makes it is. Absolutely. What he meant to do.

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H-Hour Snapshots #8 Jeremy Gibbs

H-Hour: A Sniper's Podcast

15:44 min | 11 months ago

H-Hour Snapshots #8 Jeremy Gibbs

"See you see right. Yeah not ex-military. What are you doing Michelle multiple events a very good question very good question. Well yeah you know about farming? I've told you about it but basically days a huge gap in. Let's say people coming into the agriculture industry and I think a big opportunity for people come out voices to marry the two together to offer a great place to work great industry to work in today's proven that completely. Why you why you background in Quote I'd say culprit agriculture. Okay also hands on palm. Why why why? Focus on veterans so I was basically with a contract to form contractor by year and a half ago and he wouldn't his office one day at his head in his hands and he just had enough of the job he had a hundred grand. Juries claims And that was all back to stop. The damaged. Property hit caused driven on people's lawns damage. Buildings It just makes me then just to move. You ever thought about recruiting anyone from from the forces any exponentially able he said. I haven't even thought about said. Why don't you though so good friend of mine? One of my best friends from school he was medically discharged back in two thousand sixteen He Ghanistan quenches up down etc run across him. Just a Tim. What have you ever thought about working foaming at? He said he's countryside based anyway and Autobahn other people. Do you think there's good opportunity people come out and he told raves about the ideas. Yeah definitely People serving said is there any options with someone coming out if they WANNA get into farming? Is there anyone that can help them along the way and pretty much well? No there's no there's no link between the forces and farming and if you'd have boxer history I mean coming out. The forces people was sent to the countryside to take on the farm or land to to work outside and walk outdoors basically. I I honestly don't know why it came to me but I just thought it's a good match transferable skills. There's a lot of opportunities for people who want to do something different. You know wanted to work outdoors wants to have a stroke to job not work in the nine to five. You know I spent nine and a half years. I I worked in the corporate corporate world of agriculture for big manufacturers about nine and a half years it was great The end I realized what I don't want to be in an office so I came back out back to back to the UK from Germany Pretty much started my career for from zero again because once you leave something you know. It's hard to get back in ways. Left saw maqueda about twenty percent salary driving tractors. I just couldn't happier so sounds with didn't didn't make signs transmission oversees transition. Someone military going out the job that you've done for ten years to go back to something that was in essence new again You know it just reinforced the idea. Rashly you do. You love the similarities. Definitely I'm legit. Used IT ON. An analogy is legit along saving analytical. Used it in the past to to six energized said. I said the miniature transition Agnihotri to someone a sudden being out of the Career Insurance On its is a it can be catastrophic change of culture especially when it's not chosen a false upon you all opioid don't know won't go into it can be strongly. It's why people get married done. Then you end up in Charleston south on upon nervous breakdown stop. That's exactly what it is so when I left the last company the career say cope world wasn't wasn't necessarily much choice to leave but it was so of the full time that you don't do job anymore. You're GONNA be doing this job for six months and then six months became a year and I just said you know it's not for me. Suffolk Quebec mental health. Honestly in the Burn Out Depression. Lost three stone in six months. When I left the job you know adult things came. Pack needs to be sold to realize any way I'm GonNa fix this is to enjoy So Yeah Yeah so the same same thing left job. I thought it was for life and you go back into farming. H Simenon passionate about And the other thing I I worked in training so I understood understood. Quebec are how how it helps put someone in environment where they can not teach. Someone is different taking our age inside. Right you've got learning skill actually will have but let's see best environments then and that was really Farming came from the idea of market the industry to people leaving the forces during the transition h phase. If it's a case of what happened on experience and then I spoke to a few people today I she and I said well did you know what you signing up for when you signed up. Yeah I knew I was going to. We didn't know the INS and outs and that's the same thing you know. People look at farming. I saw me. We're no you know you grow crops your animals or a little bit about industry. Everyone needs to eat. So yeah it can. We loved it. It's one of the biggest noise gops exponentially get an audit as well. So I'm a symptom of that lodge veteran As they look so look full yet we look at John. Deere or something right and I think that's necessary farmer. I'm not far. I'm going to contract charter all. Because they see you know reading basic Graham thing with no no career POSSO PROMOTION PROSPECTS. No of that stuff in the same light two years ago. If you set me we're GONNA Emma Simpson Survey Day job or up. Sound like an issue of comes. I will signal. I ain't gonNA clue someone. Would I do that? But the reality is same as farming agriculture satellite communications. We MISSION MOBILE MISSION. Over an automotive industry they organizations which yes they have specialist roles specialist. John they will stop everything else everything else. He's an all the skills that you have from. The tree could apply insect talker but today the logistics Cole came up to me hadn't even considered farming. And I you know we talked about it and told him about the forces. Consented What you do now. Logistics logistics thumbing. You know science you pick a vegetable. That is already on. The topic. Talks NEEDS TO BE SUPERMARKETS. Christmas possible you know millions of tons of wheat going out Southampton Docks. Well let's go news ray debate. You never did it. Officially doing it properly shipping machines around the world Salah Finance and anything you know. Customs all unsold opportunities. He's in the air force is farming actually grew instead of just focusing on people working in songs spilled onto that actually because the whole industry so then going contact with a few recruitment companies one lodge recruitment recruits full the public one of the biggest agricultural. Mock it specific role so once someone knows what they WANNA do. They've had experience will then look. What opportunities are recruiter Another person that looks off the fresh produce Talking to them and just saying this. Is there an opportunity for people coming out of the voices and actually the the couple of papers have already employing people from the sources so there is that but it's just I think so marketing? The idea the ashes good good opportunity. I had some great chance today. I mean he was fantastic so talking to a couple of outside I mentioned to you. You know a lot of jobs in farming. If you've gone to a farmer allowed state. The job comes to the House C. Take away that need the. Yeah of mortgage of Up Savings of Job To pay the mortgage difficult. Well actually if there's an industry it's an industry that's already got accommodation. That say fixed him in the job Then you add into that the elements of having a laugh if you coming out of the of an environment where you think. Someone's to me today you know. They're talking to regard farm once Anyway and he said trump meetings Where did you learn to lucile comments? And he said well you know. I grew up in a phone because you have. I made the same comments served. You ever seen what I've seen. So she said to me said that should be one main mop Messages is when you can count as you all you can. You can have a law you can you can. You can still be in the same sort of environment but you just drive different Zhang Sunday for Joe. I forgotten about accommodation thing. I'm so you're saying you're saying get so she find some live Blah Blah Blah. You say you can go. Stay tight you go. The state is a part of that job. You get you get a job you might tell everyone exactly regular army. Yeah I enjoy you can look out. Saw can be on your own. You can what people someone else said today. You know you have it your sixteen hours in attracts on your own you all you got radiated so you know you. Pick the raiders. What's happening what you do in each sector and you just chop. I worked with about eight blocks last year in journalists. And I've never known Bantu Lock. It didn't have the radio on because it was just old back-and-forth fireable taking the To having a laugh you know signing wish On it's just it's just a good good opportunity the way the agriculture is changing as well. I said someone that you know. We're going away from tracing shape blocking seats. The genetic says logistics nuys drones as robots is autonomy so much that's coming up as well and imagery and the amount of people expected today about Lloyd. Our imagery in this the other supposing it's just Transferable sold to someone that's coming out and thinks about today. The last two guys that came with me said we want to start. Count the rest of my life. Two engineers one had come through one one. The apples engineer If you're interested in it comes today in the weeks Like each if you don't want a nine to five job you want some of those Rewarding structures but you can work in the ovens unite. The other side engineering saw It's a case of getting things done. Things got everything breaks things go wrong. But it's how you deal with a NAS- The company I co who then this attraction today they put on They had data talk back in January. That they're trying to recruit more people into the engineering size into this data ship for the disappointing Fixing machines went to them and said mocked in the industry people from the forces so they've actually come up and said we'll do With insight on Agricultural Engineering July remorse. We'll give you a training center. We'll give you a three. Instructors will give you lunch foods and we'll might commitment amendment so it is really not the other thing is really good reception in agriculture for people come out and sources And I had a long talk about trust you trust in someone else's you know he's not you know that person's not let you down you know the they're gonNA turn up on. They're going to be reliable and if you ask him today some Doing that can you shut me? But it's all about helping people develop Three things affirmative plenty of job There is a career progression now. Changing say any such an exciting place to be at any of the most important thing is tweet Brexit love hates it wherever we need to. We all need to know with rich coming from a fixed security. Thomas said to me a couple of weeks back when I was talking about this. He said you know what Drugs grammercy won't people. Yeah I can people follow so we pretty active on instagram forces farming. The website has should be alive today. coat. Uk needs zone yet yet farming UK. All if anyone send me an email. It's Jeremy Forces forming the coach k. e. r. e. m. Wha what is next on there so we've got a the event in July so planning that Continue pretty much promoting the industry. The people from sources cited look at the various China's with us a few obstacles in magazines All I'm dating with. Everyone expected tonight's penalty out about hopefully ten people have their email address. Send US MORE INFORMATION. Contact you get SHEM UC BAIT. See what comes next vice Stop getting people into insight days Experience if it's what you WANNA do Stolac in training through different organizations in three different options bicy- Jason Anymore events that come up with this lead to attend this crime really appreciate what Dante. Mish drive me gifts. Absolutely thank you appreciate that.

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859 - Sleepy Ticket to Ride | Bored Game Unboxing

Sleep With Me

1:22:08 hr | 1 year ago

859 - Sleepy Ticket to Ride | Bored Game Unboxing

"Ladies and gentlemen boys and girls in friends beyond by an eerie. It's time for the PODCAST. Stor who when I when I asked my brain just a few seconds ago. What should we do for the opening of the podcast? It said jasmine rice in a said. Talk about Jasmine Rice. In an INTRO LAK- teaser. That's supposed to be about thirty seconds or whip up a pot of it Mino- headed for dinner. If I could think of a song like jasmine rice on my mind That would be one of the songs that would make about as much sense as you. The whole idea that only makes partial sense just like when I say. Hey let's set up something ready for the podcast brain. Would you get a jasmine rice in? I don't think we're jasmine rice. Podcasts BUT You know we're we're here we're here to put you to sleep So you might not know what I'm talking about. Be Bare- barely due to welcome to sleep with me. Podcasts approach to sleep. E- endo's us at irregular multiple episode listeners. 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Whether it's don sure thinking about physical sensations so things on your mind. Since you're physically experiencing any feelings our emotions coming up changes in time or temperature were routine. You know any of that. Kind of stuff Someone else's routine is impacting yours. Maybe work second or third shift or maybe work. You know different types of shifts. I would like to know if anybody works in morning news because it watch my local morning news and it can always empathize with those Everyone that does the job there whether it's on camera off camera a say. Holy Cow Lake So we have great respect for for anyone in the morning local news or national. But you know he's just say if you're doing morning news Shout out to you because you get 'cause or any like any other Super Early Jab too. I totally appreciate it. So that's okay so where was where am I? Oh Marty lost in the PODCAST Whatever skiing Oh whatever skeeving you wake it could be any of that stuff could be scoots. You your fell off of the whatever's keeping awake to take your mind off the head and women do is. I've got a safe place here. Set aside getting invitation for you holy cow. I don't know if we talked about invitations. And the PODCASTS. I know we've talked about paper products seeing stinnett stationary. Maybe not recently. It's been this. This one is assigned this invitation. It was signed sealed and delivered. It should actually yours at your invitation. they stevie. Oh Steven Sorry Oh no okay well I could. I mean this is just the beginning of intro so it would say Mr wonder but That just sounds that make makes me giggle. Even though at professional so giggling now it also makes me say Mr Wonder I you know I wa while wonder why I can't call Stevie or St St. how about Steve. Steve Wonders Your realtor. well interesting okay show. Where was that you sorry about to get off track there? Oh he vacation for you to this Nice Safe Place. Enough your new. I'm glad you're here. I'm GonNa send my voice across the deep dirk night. Menus of walling is soothing. Creaky dulcet tones pointless me. Anders superfluous tangents is extra filler words. Confu like confused illogic Illogical all those things it really would introduce keep you company while you DRIFTA of Surf your new one like I said. I'm glad you're here. I hope despite gas can help now doesn't work for everybody but I certainly hope it works for you. Here's a couple of things to know. Structurally what to expect to show starts off with a little teaser. Ladies Gentlemen Boys and girls and friends beyond the binary as I try to think of something weighty to say which have about one in ten chance to doing that then. There's some business in that business. Keeps the podcast like the people that take action on that support by Caspian free for everybody? So that's a wonderful thing but necessary because I do not want the podcast behind a paywall. My goal is for you to be a listen to it for free if you wish or for New People that come into so. That's a business. Then there's an intro. Now the intro is the first thing they can throw off the new listener because usually intro officiant. And they're just an introduction and with the length of the podcast technically intro which is usually around twelve to fifteen to eighteen to twenty two nineteen to seventeen to sixteen thirteen. Eleven minutes or so. It's still like a like an intro type length for our podcast but usually intro psyche. Here's what I'm GonNA talk about. You talk about what you're gonNA talk. Ac I can't remember 'cause they can't even remember when they say here's an efficient way to do an intro. You tell them what you're GonNa talk about then you're supposed to do something else. Efficient like go through what you're going to talk about is Intel or y or something. Then tell them again. What you're GONNA talk about. It's an intro. I think I rule of Intros if I forget what rules were was to our show though. It has a dual purpose or quadruple purpose or more. Because it really. It's supposed to introduce you to the podcast but also set you up for a good night's sleep right in wind you down. Help you to unwind or start to drift off or get ready for bed in is your if your new you kind of might be wherever you're listening to it as where you're listening to right perfect place but as you become a regular listener a few percent people skip ahead to eighteen to twenty minutes but most listeners can work it into their bedtime routine so some people are listening in bed in so people are listening is they're getting ready for bed or anywhere in between some lovely listeners are already Sound Asleep look at how sweet they look. Isn't that sweet So you just Kinda can see how it goes. It's just a free friendly banter from old scoots like regular listeners. Are like okay you think scoots is gonNA get intro down. Talk about what he's GonNa talk about. I mean I definitely show like why make asleep podcast So I got that park down with the tall so the intros just friendly time to get ready for bed and to get in the mood. You know what I'm saying. I think I think already. I think I've successfully unsuccessfully told you. What the intro is then there's Some more business between the intro in the show then tonight it'll be a truly random Tuesday style episode. I think we're going to be doing a board game on boxing in talking about if like a Board Games in this board game lineup. So that'll be fun. Ended in or some donkeys at the end such structure the show. Also if you're new a couple of other things there's no You don't need to pay attention to this podcast So there's no pressure to listen along. You can kind of listen along at your leisure loosly or out of focus around low volume You Know Candy. Just barely follow along if you like. But there's also no pressure to fall sleep. I'm going to be here for about an hour. There's two hundred ninety nine other episode to ready to go so if you need to play them back to back to back You can do that so I'm here to to keep you company as you drift off so if you can't sleep I'll be here till the very end it to keep you company but ideally for you that means you can just drift off along the way but they have plenty of time to do that in a you know kind of over analyzing the details of this game in pondering if I were to play it Like what I would do. Also I know. He mentioned invitations at the beginning and they would say you know. Invitations are probably not against it. Depends on what the invitations are four. They could be something like a lot of times. They say no invitations in bed but I'd say well invitations might not be like if you're only you say okay. Let's put it in Lake Limit. So you say okay ten invitations. If you're feeling excited about it in your saying like we'll be doing the leaker. Nafta EXACT CONDO MASSIVE. But here's a like a con. What do they call that when you alternate For your own purposes repurposing Condo. That's my new book How you used Marie condos how I use Marie condos Brinson principles on Racks and end like when I play in dirty That's probably going to be the official subtitle the book or Condo. D- You know how I took kind of massive into my condo. I don't have a condo right now but I think that'd be a good one condo to how you know probably somebody already who what's lack that one down because it's definitely going to be a title in five years people are going to be after probably would be good name for a podcast if we but I will show anyway. This is A. I'm not just saying let's just say invitations are okay in bed. Feeling good about them. If there's a limit you say okay I'M GONNA do ten invitations to this tea party. Tonight Matt at the Tea Party suits in the future. And then you do a little condo in like for real. Okay I'M INVITING. Tammy she brings me joy. This is one of the things. I'm grateful. Dear. Tamie can't wait to see you at the tea party. Don't worry cut across off for you. Fyi A pretty sure. Tk Tea sandwiches. Don't have cross love. You Latte Lurlene so that'd be that'd be actually a good thing to use in kind of a combination. No the word we could create con- condo kind well condemnation. There's another thing. Let's lack that one down? That'd be the Murray Condo superfan cast or a network of Marie condo related fan. You Know Marie Condo inspired of Big Fan casts it we call ourselves condemnation look close to Camden con con anyway because inability to pronounce words a so. That's an idea for invitations. Here's an idea. This is just an awful wall one. But you know I'm always looking for stuff to kind of make me feel better In than this just popped into my mind but I think it's always looking for sticky ideas would if you like is there's a of things with gratitude list right and that's a powerful bedtime technique in you know. We have different pro program or Oprah to people that really are big gratitude lists and So here's an idea for a twist on a gratitude list -nother man. I'm coming up with titles for stuff. is Would if you give what if you send out imaginary invitations end like invite them into the day? Tomorrow he's just whack you but I think you'd actually. This is again actually do a bedtime. And then I try to. It's like Were like you say. Well this is the things I wanted to be grateful for today. You know or you could write it in perspective like if if Coa was writing and she'd say you know dear scoots or deer constant patting of your dog in multiple dog walks and extra treats Can't wait to see tomorrow all day. Really looking forward to it. I guess you could do it as thank you notes. I think that's a cantopop sourcing. That could be another thing like Instead of doing a gratitude list imaginary dear dear dragonfly. Thanks for buzzing by me. Today it was great to your so Sparkley love scoots. That'd be one out. I wouldn't have written today unless they see a dragonfly. Dear dragonfly imagined flew by. It was a pretty great to maybe different than regular dre. And then I would send dear dragonflies of the world I know we don't take nuclear live in the same area your seasonal or not. But I'd love to see you tomorrow. I'm having a dragonfly party. I don't have any idea what any dragonfly you know. I don't know any other things you might like in. I don't want to be presumptuous. But I'm going to bed so I can't do any research but I hope to see them. I'll be I'll be there but if you don't come I totally get it In Heaven Imaginary Dragonfly. Just in case love scoots. So I don't know there's something. They came out of nowhere but they actually might be useful So hopefully someone out there can use that I'm going to try US like sometimes. I'm facetious but the same Nad Betra- somebody remind me either should be. This episode will be out like months and months after I recorded it. So be good experiment like check in with me and see if amuse in then the invitation method were thank you thank you sir thing so anyway we mean thing is. I'm really thankful you're here. You've taken time you've taken a risk to check a show out or to come back or to support show on regular basis and it really do. I'm really grateful for that Would DO SOME WITTY? Like write. You A DANK. You Notre of invitation but really just shaved straightforward. I'm really glad you're here. It really appreciate your time and attention in while this. Podcast doesn't work for everybody a really hope. It does work for you because you do deserve a good night's sleep some glad you're here work very hard a yearning. Strive because I want to help to put you to sleep or be here as you drift off or as you can't sleep so thanks so much and here's a couple of cool ways able to keep this podcast of free for everybody. Everybody went talked about. Tonight's sponsor quip makers equip quip electric toothbrush. Who wants you to know the one single discovery that matters most for your dental care and it simply this is that if you have good habits you're good and my daughter and I know this because we use our equips in the morning and in the evening and I love how quip is helped us build those healthy habits Brushing for two minutes of choice. A day flaw seeing regularly no matter what brand you use quip makes it simple. They start with their electric toothbrush. They have refill flaws. An anti cavity toothpaste quips. Electric Brush has a sensitive sonic vibrations with a built-in timer. 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I don't know if you've checked it out yet but if you're looking for a fun way to pass the time engage your brain with bright breathtaking visuals cool characters you got to check out best fiends and just because you asked. I'm on I'm on level. Forty one of my daughters unlikely level fifty something so. I'm having fun but I don't know if they could keep up with her. The thing is it's made for adults but it's a casual game. Anyone could play. I'm really fun you know if I'm waiting for somebody or just need a break in the middle of the day and I want to do something fun and relaxing but also then have to think about. I love the challenge of completing the puzzles on best fiends. Also like to humor. The characters are cute too but I don't know it's really fun. You just got to check it out. I mean it's free to download its unique and exciting puzzle experience. It's unlike any of the other puzzle games out there like you said it. Has This Bright Fun. Feel to it and best fiends updates game monthly with new levels and events so it never gets old and you feel like you're part of something best fiends that treats the game like service for their players. And here's the other if you travel for work best fiends. You don't need an Internet connection to play so when I'm waiting for my flight to take off or when I'm waiting you know while it's taxiing and landing or waiting for an appointment to start and you'll best fiends on. You know like I said I just say well. I need a little break here at lunchtime. I WanNa do something fun. In there's also strategy collect different characters Do Different things so when you're getting ready for each LV say well which character who do they think of my favorite characters quincy or maybe brittle but you'll have to let me know? Lisa? What's your favorite character in? Which one is most useful in which situation So it's time to check out best to fiends. Engage your brain with fun puzzles and collect tons of cute characters. Trust me with over one hundred million downloads. This five star rated mobile puzzle game is a must play download best fiends of free on apple APP store or Google play and that's a friends without the our best to fiends so search it set it up and let me know about it in a real. Let's play like let me know social media. Tell me about what's going on with your best. Fien says thanks everybody. Everybody welcome to like an actual board game on boxing. We do these from time to time. So far no one's sent me a board game. I think one person one company inquired one time till like actually have US talk about a specific game and then I said well you br. If you're GONNA choose you probably have to pay me. in So then so I still by my own games just so everybody knows in usually buy them when they're on sale. Antibi- them to play with either Antonio Banderas or my daughter. So this game I've played version of it Actually have never played the board game version of its. This is one where I'm going. Have we done this before where I've gone from the modern era bag to the board game era which the Board Board Games are still a modern era? Saying at least to me. Maybe I'll talk about this but just anybody's Lavar heard one of these episodes so talk about a board game. He ended then on boxing. I took the wrapping off but I have not like literally have it in my hands in. It's a really nice box In the artist NAT exactly like Totally bringing me into the game But it's heavy and it's a heavy duty box so those are all good signs in. It's not really playful game anyway. So That's art is a little bit more not real life but so the name of the game will says alien arm. Oh this is some looking at to cover the game. We'll do the top cover of the box and then l. talk about the top cover. Then I'll talk about the history with my history the game and then Flip it overlook bag. Open the box and go from there. So the name of the game or the cover. The game is his alien our moon and that's in some cursive gold writing ticket to ride which is in multiple fonts Like in a fun like a ticket to ride theme park Type Font and red lettering but with behind it. I don't know what that's called but Multiple colors and then it says New York in any W of New York is an American flag in the York Y O R K. It's all cursive the WIRE O. R. K. is also kind of like out of focus Rests to of the flag. Think so ticket to ride. New York is the name of the game made by days of wonder and then on the front cover is like a cityscape of New York Looking down the street with an elevated train 'em guessing because I'm not good at guessing airs nineteen fifties. It's only because of the People. Looks like what's his name from. Greece or Fonzie from happy days and both of which are pop culture. I can't say no not everybody knows. And then there's a three other characters standing in the foreground everyone's well three of the four characters are holding a ticket And then there's a business person who has a ticket in the front package then there's also a cabdriver pulling up waving at us so there's five humans. I guess we could call them that. We can see their faces. They're all smiling. Actually the business nice smiling they have. They're looking they look like they're about to explain something. The cabs license plate reads Dow. Two one eight two. It's so insane. It's like it looks like it's the nineteen fifties maybe could be anywhere from nineteen fifty seven nineteen seventies. That's good I can almost read the boss but I can't Kuwait Saint John's it may be says it is actually NATTA. Maybe it's not a bus. Maybe IT'S AN ELECTRIC STREETCAR End. There's the subway. We could see the Chrysler building ended. I think just the Tower of the Empire State Building. And so that's pretty much the cover of the game and let's see which would we need to know? Oh so ticket to ride. No some. You're saying ticket to ride. Oh boy scoots It's a classic in be like I don't know where this game is most popular. I would assume it's nat the US but it may be it is the US because in a in on the Internet having countered people that play ticket to ride. But I've never encountered it in someone's home or just in my small circle. I'm not I don't now friends with a ton of board Gamers But I haven't been anywhere where someone's like let's play. Let's sit down and play ticket to ride but people do now my experience with ticket to ride in. I'll try to keep this meander tie but you know you never know so. I have a lot of experience with a ticket to ride on the on the IPAD or the iphone in ninety nine point nine percent of it is very positive Except for the fanged data the change they changed something around it or something but but I think I was like so OK. Su There's a game called ticket to ride. Let me explain that. Yeah let's do that. It's a board game in an ideally in ipad based board game which actually makes it a lot easier to play. I mean I've never played the board game version because there's no setting up organizing the pieces or the scoring is all automated. And I don't have the verbiage of the actual game in front of me so this is all off of my memories but I do play it on the regular until they made a change to the AB in also like a kind of well. So He's my phone got sold a old too. But I would say like if you're thinking scoots I'm looking for a new game like I said. I don't have the most newest version of the APP so I can endorse it but I will say that I like. It is an unbelievably good board game to play to do pass and play with two or three people and I'll give you the context jewel parts dad coming up here show so we have had so basically the the the game familiarity with ticket to ride. Was they heard about it probably on? Life Akkar or somewhere is a go. Kay this is all the Great Board Games. You know After Catan and Carcassonne. Or whatever you know the big the big dogs. Which of course familiar with those isn't great either. But the tickets to ride usually up there in the had not the top top top. I mean no offense to the game Put up there and then I think it's a little bit more accessible because my daughter and I have been playing it For at least I'd say six years maybe bad K. O. Pro maybe even seven or eight years but they could be again. It could be to all. This could be wrong so okay. So what's the game? Yeah you're right. We should talk so did game. A ticket to ride is ticket to ride a train I is. It's not really about riding the trains though. The addition I play is a continental. Us Edition. And I think I tried to buy again. I had some issues with the APP and it may have tried to get European edition or another edition. 'cause there's other maps in other AD versions of the game which would be very cool And Make It more fun. And I've heard that some the other additions are cool because they have tunnels and things like that but I haven't played. It's a one day. I don't know why what I'm waiting for me. I guess because I have Carcassonne on my phone and my daughter and I have been playing that On and off we have to wait for something in a wine particularly and We still haven't even figure we've played played like eighty five games of it and we still haven't figured out exactly how like cat how to actually win like the scoring particular edge much easier to figure out so basically you're trying to you're trying to be like a train tycoon and build train lines across the continental. Us and you get certain cards. There's different I don't know I guess maybe the rules will come out in this little version but basically you're trying to connect to city says you'd get a You. Get a couple of cards. This is like unbalancing the game my mind but you get a couple of cards. That are routes so. Let's say you want to you. Get a route lake to connect New York to Miami now. That's pretty far and you probably have to. You'll have to stop in some cities on the way in then you have trained cards sitter in a variety of colors and you. WanNa have you have to have matching colors that match the Drina match colors in collect cards and then could connect those two cities in a variety of ways to do that. But if you're Carter's connect New York to Miami you need to find a way to control a rapid showing New York Miami. I guess you could sell tickets on. Its in there's other ways to an-and points with like long longest route and you're you're trying to you know obviously get more routes and you get points for other stuff so this basically not the rules but a general idea but this game so on the phone don't facebook because again I I bought like early version of the APP. This BEF- before free meal. I think so. I can't even be sure if I bought a early version of the APP or like if they went to like a free model or they had paid like ninety nine cents version or they just went with the premium model because this is a premium game even IPAD. Like if I had a fully functioning version with other maps like Abdu say like somewhere between ten and twenty dollars. It's worth it. Also World Wonder Sandra checks over here or whatever the heck. Your company's name is pricing. The APP rates are controlled by you know laser beam enterprises. Okay so but this game is so good we get. It's beautiful on ipad in a little bit easier to read and stuff but it's a really good pass employee game the only criticism I would have is that. There's no timer in tend to try to play like really fast And I'm not that patient so then when I pass it to somebody else like they can. Sometimes they take their time calculating everything. Because it's like a kind of a strategy game but once you get down the basic rules It's more about like. There's not like a brute force way to win like it's always about Laker taking risks in. There's a randomness that can even levels the playing field. And then if you're taking on more risk holding out for certain cards or trying to connect really distant routes In order to win Is that you can is good to play with a kid. That's six years six seven years old up to lake Other adults or a mix of those in because it's Bassim play especially for like a few people are waiting in line. You can get a pass it between the people waiting in line now we would always play also with computer competitors which are not always the most intelligent but I feel like it just adds extra challenge. Also because there's like a slight Eh. Lake competitiveness to usually you're competing more against the randomness like if you're only playing with the people you're passing playing with. It could be like the V. V. I N. D. C. T. That word like where the competitiveness it could manifest itself in like taking like a property or something like a monopolization. I'm just going to get their property. So you can have it in a found having a full game like so two or three two or three people playing like having the rest of the roles filled by or whatever of differing skills or whatever Chaos Chaos Nisei. It makes it better because it's like other people. Don't try to watch what you're doing and then say well just block that you know then that personal B. S. O. L. But it really is a fun game and it really helps. Pass the time like especially if you're waiting. Limato theme park is opposed to those frigging game. Say Kids like where he got. Embarrassed yourself or do charades much. More focused like scoots like religious focus. Let's not draw attention to ourselves. Let's calculate I Dunno I really do find it. A very enjoyable game in especially when the competition is robust Like a really. Find it in because the randomness You could be constantly frustrated so it kind of kind of feels like again. There's like a ticking clock but it's more on number of cards or something or number train cars used so then I dunno I so it's a really good game. That's my thing so then I saw this game on sale which ahead and heard of it. This is a two player fast version of it in. We'll just go on the back. Oh look we'll just go on to back it to read it because this is supposed to be for promotion anyway so it says again alien our moon ticket ride New York introducing a New York ticket to ride state of mind. Oh and here's the air. Welcome to the sixties admire the stunning view from the empire. State building the world's tallest skyscraper or take a walk through the magnificant central Park Go from Times Square to Brooklyn to do some sightseeing enjoy. So that's like the marketing. Then the specific speak it is in that was in Script this is in type in this fast paced deride game so fast paced otherness slow players race one another through the busy streets of New York City to visit the most prestigious tourist attractions in complete their destination tickets. This elegantly simple ticket to ride gameplay appeals to both beginners in season players learned the game in three minutes. Play it for hours. Exclamation point has arrived. Lak- website ticket number to ride to game dot com in contains One Board Game One board map of New York transportation networks sixty plastic taxis fifteen in each colour forty four transportation cards eighteen destination ticket cards. One Rule leaflet one score pad one pencil and it is two to four players. You gotTA BE EIGHT PULL US. Sorry little kids. Ten to fifteen minutes per game no zero three blow. No little kids. It has It days of wonder Europe In in days wonder. Us Two thousand four hundred twenty eighteen so it could have played it as long as it could've played it a while ago and that's about it has some beautiful pictures of the cards and stuff like So that is the back of the game and it's a square box so I'll open it up now off Mike and then get back to you okay. So the first thing is like the Is this a rules book? It's the rule book is made to look like brochure. So I think that's cool in. It has says welcome to the gap will New York City introducing famous original so some internal Newark Jokes. They're in. It has like a watercolor in the background of Central Park and maybe Central Park West a couple of buildings in an opening it up. We won't read through the rules but Enjoy your visit going from Central Park to Empire State Building from Times Square to Brooklyn. It has. Yeah everything that's included in the set up which she said to police aboard. Game Map in the center of the table each player takes set of plastic colored. Taxis Shuffle the transportation cards deal starting hand of two cards to each player. An employee today near the board flipped a top five cards from the deck face If by doing so three of the five face up cards or taxi cards immediately discard all five cards and flip five new cards Face up to replace them so this is like a game where you can either draw from flipped guards or random card in this kind of thrilling because there is a wild card. Then you're shuffled. Deduct nation tickets and deal to cars with to destinations two cards each player Ono. Each miliket their destination takers decides which one they wish to keep. You may keep one or both If you choose to keep only one with the return card is placed on the bottom of the destination ticket deck in this place Next to the board and you have to keep your chest nation tickets secret till the end of the game again in the box it has everything will this will be good I don't WanNa go well. We could go through all the rules. This is good We'll try to paraphrase So object of the game is to score the most points of course in new score points by naming a route between two adjacent locations successfully completing continuous path of loops Route switch between two locations and your destination tickets and by connecting a tourist attractions You also lose points to each of the destination ticket cards. You do not complete by then the game. So that's like the risk reward if you're trying to really win okay. Game turned new youngest player. Goes I you go clockwise. Turn still the game ends and your turn. You can only do one in only one of the following. Three actions draw transportation card Kohima route or draw. Destination Tickets Which is the same in the main game. Okay so draw. Transportation Cards Transportation Cards match. Seru colors on board. There's blue green black pink and red orange except for taxi cards which are wildcards multi-colored and they can replace any card when you're claiming route You can have any number of Transportation Kurds in your hand at any time. But you can only draw obviously wanted time. This election allows you to Toronto away. Oh do you get to draw transportation card you can take the top card from the deck a blind draw or you can take any one of the five of face up cards in this case immediately. Put replace it with the top card on the deck Is An exception if you take face up taxi card as your first card? You can't take another card on your turn. You cannot take a face up taxi card under second turn easily second card either. That's good clarity. Thank you whoever rotates instructions. 'cause he's would be arguing points city understand. You could take a taxi cab but because it's a wild card you can only take one in USA pro tip that I've learned to is Andrew like looking at So there will be five cards face up that you could choose from or you could choose to draw blind from the face down card. Andy I I usually. This is your first risk score decision because there is like a whatever one in seven chance of data the face down card could be a wildcard or one of the colors you need so it's kind of about like oh are any of the colors you need face up or if you do or are there to face up colors you could take to start accumulating cards of one color so is there a color you need yester- know if it's if it's yes probably take that color isn't on your second turn. Deci decided well the same thing if I knew I turn. It's no there are no colors you need. Then ask okay. Are there two cards of the same color because then you could consecutively draw like two red cards. For example this is scoot strategy. Coming at you for free So do you could do that or you could draw from the face sound day and then hope you get to color. You need so or if there isn't do either or if there are two car color cards or two cards of matching colors or there or not you could draw. You could draw from the Dank In then hope you either get a wildcard or color. You need or color. That's in the face down deck On your first turn and you could also just you say scoots like every time you do that and it doesn't work out because like Majori some second workout surreally. Would I try to do in the early phases? Talk more about some of my strategy for the main game could be different for this game in my g's high risk Especially at the beginning and then at the end end in the middle phases the game. It's like a accumulation phase in like a pool game plays four stages so I well. Let's just let's just say okay so I guess I'm getting mixed up so when drawing. Those are some ideas of how to draw cards and I always look at it a Ma join accumulate cards or my trying to take a risk lake. So if it's really early you could kind of take a risk to try to build up some wildcards into like a healthy amount of things. Now we'll talk about the destinations in a minute has an exception. If at any time it's three of the face up cards or taxis immediately discard all five cards and flip. Five new cards from the deck Face up to replace him so that happens automatically and so's wondered what triggered is. It's interesting when the deck is empty. Shuffled Discard Card secreted new transportation card deck. Okay Kohima route. A route is a species of the same color on the board that links to adjacent locations in. I'll talk about that when we opened up the map Some locations are connected by double roots to route to the same length connecting the same locations. A single player cannot claim both routes of adorable route. Okay no no. In two player Games. Once a rude of adult route is claimed. Oh Wow it's lacked down and cannot be claimed by the other player so that's GonNa cause trouble for me and Sophia probably to claim a route you must discard a number of cards from your hand. Equal to the number spaces the route Implicit plastic taxi and each of those spaces. Most routes requires specific set of cards. For example blue route must be claimed by discarding Blue Transportation Cards. If there are gray route so those can be claimed with any set of cards of one color. You can claim any open route on board even if it is not connected to route you you've previously claimed but you cannot claim more than one route per turn. If you don't have enough plastic taxis left its place on each space. You can't claim that route you can claim a route. That is three places wrong. Look then can also use wildcards right So they try to show some examples. Okay this destination ticket cards sue. Each destination card shows two locations in a point value. It the end of the game. He scored the point value of each destination. Card you've completed to complete a destination you have to connect to locations listed on the card. They creating a continuous passive routes. You've claimed in now I'll tell you that it could be is museum during were like a in. This is another pro tip on ticket to ride like you could go like from New York to Toronto to like a cool Eveland to Chicago and then down through Texas and then over to Florida like giant ASEA in instill like if you had like New York to Miami and New York to Chicago. In Toronto to La Lakers Louisiana. That's one thing I like to do. Just because it's clean and sometimes it doesn't always win the longest route I tell myself it's efficient. It just brings me. Some joy lakes some kind of level joy to of lake water but I am decent at the game when playing against an eight year old in like a limited. Ai Computers Okay so connected destinations. This action allows you to draw or you can have any number of destination ticket cards so if you take this action for your turn you can draw more destination ticket cards to do so. Take two cards from the top of the destination ticket steak. Now you have to keep one of these cards in Yuki and keep both of them in any return cards a place on the bottom of the deck. You cannot discard a destination ticket. Once you've chosen to keep it if there's only one destination ticket cards left in the deck. You could still do the sanction but you must keep the card a destination cards In their completion must be kept even their completion must be kept secret from other players at the end of the game. So here's my one time strategy. I don't always do this but Like I might take it so I'll see. What DOES NATION KURDS? I get to start the game in a key may take my first two or three turns Drawing MORE DESTINATION TICKET CARDS TO SEE. If I get lucky in would I mean by that is like destinations? That are overlapping. So say you did have New York to Miami in then you then. You're next year and you draw destination coaching having to get like Toronto to Elena. And then and the next turn you happen to get a New York. to Saint Louis or something. Those are all tickets in the same general direction. So then you can really pile up some points. So that's the reward. The risk is that you could also get really unlucky and then you have like New York to Miami which is a pretty long route and then say say also have like New York to Los Angeles then. I might not draw ticket cards. Just it's like okay. That's going to be tough but say you just had a short route like New York to Boston? So then the next one. If you Dry New York to Los Angeles you're GonNa be that's GonNa be tough or you draw like Los Angeles To Salt Lake City or something you say well. Those aren't even anywhere near each other. So just just deciding your risk. Tolerance and stuff game end in final scoring when a player has two or fewer plastic. Taxis left in their supply. Each player Incuding that player gets one last. Turn it in the game. Ends in players calculate definers final scores. I each player scores points for the roots. They claimed during the game based on the route scoring table printed on the board then each player reveals her destination ticket. Cards REVEAL EDSA VALUE OF EACH card. They completed subtracts the value of the ones who failed to complete. So there's your risk again in finally each player scores one point for each tourist attraction that is connected to one or more of the routes. They claimed player with the most points win in the case of a tie. The player completed the most destination ticket. Cards twins have players are still retired than they share victory. Then there's an ad if you enjoyed visited big apple. How about traveling? Across the whole United States from New York to the Midwest Great Plains and the Rocky Mountains the California coast it tick deride which is game. I must have been talking about is designed for two to five players futures giant board of the Rail Network in North America. The Dawn of the twentieth century in the credits. The Game Design is alien our moon illustrations or by Julian dull Graphic design is by serial data. Dow John Doe John Special. Thanks from alien and do w it to all those who protested the game. Janet Moon Bobby West Martha Espn. Michelle skied Eden Adrian. Lydia Alicia Jonathan Casey Emily Lawson and Ryan so this instruction so let me get out the board next. Okay just noted that the scorecard is very small. It's cute It's very small size of a business card so free keeping score. That's funny okay. So opening the board in its So it's a lower Manhattan. It goes from like goes from mid lake It goes from the Lincoln Center Down Brooklyn as the only borough. So let's see. It has a funny fun grape soda like hit some cute who had designs on there so as a fake cat so to camp on their has in New York. City the brochure. It has a ticket to magic shop or Magic. Show from nineteen twenty five Another Cedar Show Showtime Orchestra February Eleventh Nineteen. Sixty one. His akitas room. Twelve O nine to wonders hotel. Then let's see down here. It looks again. Our transportation is different tickets and that has the scoring so one tax equals one point for a route at two taxis. Equal two points three equal four points and four taxi routes equals seven points so you can see how they multiple I unlike a longer routes more okay. So some of the ones a so. This is that understands. Some of them have circles with pennies which assume means there Tourist attraction may be a bit. There's a Lincoln Center that has a Red Circle that's the furthest West North West than in the middle of Central Park. Then South Lincoln Center's midtown West then a little southeast town west is Chelsea Then south Of Chelsea's Soho. In then to the southernmost point of the island is Wall Street as in heading south from Central Park is Times Square. Then a little southeast is empire state building a little bit more southeast due is from Times Square is United Nations southeast. Remember Buildings Grammercy Park Then a little south west of that is Davila. Grant Greenwich Village Than Easter. That has east village. South of the East village is lower east side West. Little southwest is Chinatown in then sells to Chinatown is Wall Street in south east of the map is Brooklyn so those are all the things they just don't know what the pennies mean with the circle. So it has a number one so central park. I would assume those two restrictions time square United Nations Empire State Building Chelsea Greenwich Village. Chinatown Wall Street in Brooklyn all have Pennies with circles. So let me just bounce back and see if they could figure out what that means Some back opening up to claim a route to to route to most routes a specific set secured straws transportation Kurds connecting tourist attractions. Oh here it is. Finally each O- yet is a penny one point. Two one point to screw a player scores a Jewish attractions Connected to one or more of the route so just to be connected to your routes okay so looks like it comes with four colors of taxis white purple teal and a yellow. But what's impressive? And they all have their own bags but then also what's impressive is it. Looks like it comes to extra taxis of each color in case you lose them maybe So That's interesting so have Okay so have the destination cards in the tanks Kurds in my hand. So the at the The unexposed side of the taxi. Kurds is like New York skyline with the New York in a cursive with the USA flag. And so we have the taxi. Oh yeah good question. How many taxis are there will count them? So the taxis very seventies look in the background with the multicolor. Zimbabwe's one two three four five six seven eight taxis. The next one is pink. It's a pink Kind of You Double Decker Greyhound style boss. So it's pretty cool and very seventies to let's see if they're seven of those one two three four five six. Yes six or seven then. Blue is a subway car. Let me just count those one. Two three four five six six maybe is then. The next one is green. It's a city bus like seventy sixty city bus With some green in pry say about six or seven those then gray is a little bit rougher like so maybe the Blue is an elevated train and then Remained SILVERS THE ELEVATED TRAIN. Little Bit rougher silver subway car in black or the cartoon black or silver or gray then Red Is like Electrified city bus Kind of like we've seen San Francisco but a little bit more of a seventies and then there's orange which is your school bus So it's pretty fun Like that that makes it a fun part of the game and then we have the destination cards which account at one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen so eighteen divided by four. I think it's four point five so it's interesting when you play with four players because that'll definitely keep like a keep it an interesting now. The back side of the car desist CD in New York Board of Transportation Your Transit System Valid for twenty cents one fair it also has like it. Looks like subway choke in in a couple of transit tickets on there. sort of vacuum and then looks to look into possible destinations. You almost think strategy. So I when I see is Times Square Soho which is worth six points. And then there's also times square to East village so this is what I'm talking about. These haven't been shuffled that's four points and then there's times squared Brooklyn. So maybe I'll shovel these later and just see. Then we have a small rout were two points lower east side. The Wall Street is in a six point route. Chelsea to Wall Street than an eight point route United Nations to Wall Street's so I'm already seeing some opportunities for some big points than Central Park to midtown. West three points Central Park to gramercy. Park is four points Central Park to Chinatown is a points Central Park to Chelsea his five Lincoln Center Empire State Building is three Lincoln Center. Empire State Building grinch villages. Serie Empire State Building to Brooklyn is seven Chelsea to Brooklyn eight the UN to midtown West is three grammercy park to Chinatown four East village. To Soho is four and Lincoln Center. To Greenwich Village. Is Six okay? So let's do a little strategy session opened the board up again. And then we'll just practice like if as playing a game like if we illegitimate practice. If in the first two were returns after drawing we won't do any game play but just strategy of the destination courage so on the first So I tried to shuffle. The cards let me do one more deck switch or cut the cards. So let's just pretend on my first And the setup of the game I got to transportation cards some looking at them in a United Nations to midtown West so United Nations is in the Upper East side of the board in midtown. West is right across town west. It's only worth three points But it's also like oh they're gray so it's there's only one route route to time square that's gray and then there's a single gray route to connect to Times Square to midtown. West also United Nations. This extra thing to think about for me is like the United Nations in Times Square are Jurist attraction so. That's an extra two points I think or maybe three points it depending on scoring so I would probably so that one is like not a bad route because Like I would have to think about it and now the next one got his Chelsea to Brooklyn. Now that's an eight point her now. Here's the good news. Chelsea is only two routes south midtown West So I would probably keeping bolster these because then I could try to connect Chelsea to Brooklyn and then Chelsea to midtown West in the United Nations in an hope on our next u-turns we get something that is in that area so if this was my first beginning I would just keep both these destination cards and then let's pretend this is the first round. I'm GonNa Take More Destination Cards. Most people are going to be actually doing things in. Let's see how we did so on our first round or so. Would we have here? We have again at Central Park to Graham. See Park So this is imperfect but it's not a disaster in then so central. Park is in the furthest north in Gramercy Park is. That's a four pointer in gramercy. Park is It's kind of in the mid east of the map. So that's four points is so it's like okay. I mean I've never played this game before but now I'm saying okay. Could I use that? Still Leeann could go central park to United Nations to Gramercy Park. That's a pretty Nice Route. And then maybe connect grammercy park to. Chelsea. Somehow it could do that And then keep working my way towards Berlin so definitely keep that card to then the next one. I got his empire State Building Greenwich Village. Now everything a keep this one too. Because Greenwich Village is on the way to Brooklyn from Chelsea and the Empire State Building Scandal Inbetween is in the middle of the MAB. So now I have four cats. I probably would stop at this point. Just because they say well I gotta get from Chelsea to Brooklyn. That's a pretty big difference distance. Alder other routes are Kinda Short And they're kind of near each other overnight interconnected but let's say okay. Well I'm feel like my competition strong here in if it takes the next round I you know I could take cards. Could see and then I only have to keep one so it's still early in the game and then I won't worry about then the rest of the game I play straight through because another thing I would do is do this and then see how fast they could complete all those routes and then if it's looking like it's a high chance. GonNa completed all which Dubai locking down any single routes. I definitely need in then. Working my way out In trying to keep it one just as efficient as they can out bryce start to take another destination card if it looks like the game's going to go on but if ahead it's under destination cards then. I'm just going to play the game out. Probably so let's take the high risk move here and take two more cards and oh boy. I think we got very lucky because one we got. Were gramercy park to Chinatown and we already have to get grammercy park in that. Well that's only four though so Gramercy Park to Chinatown China's sounds on the way to Brooklyn now. We didn't have Chinatown. We did have Graham. Cpr and we already have central Parker. Right Because the other card is e pointers central park to Chinatown. And we already have to like we might as well just keep bolt discards so then now. We're like this is going to be a risk game now because we have. Now I'd start to order my card so we have Chelsea to Brooklyn on the bottom so have central park degree. This is were having a computer's a little bit easier but you just start to organize your courage to say okay. United Nations to midtown West Central Park we have to link that. But you for only linking the small steps okay. Grandma Asleep Arctic Chinatown and that will go with Chelsea to Brooklyn. We don't really have to worry about a grant central Park Chinatown because that's going to be connected as long as we're doing our job so we're going to start to look at our weak points. We have United Nations in their. We do in midtown West so that midtown. West could be our problem area so the first thing we want to do probably connect China urge Central Park to United Nations like Brooklyn. Looks Pretty Good? There's a lot of routes to Brooklyn three to Brooklyn all of which are near Chinatown. A Greenwich Village Should Chelsea. There's is robust So I think our biggest risk right now is Well okay so I do have a strategy so we would get will. So what's our first priority businesses connecting central parts of the United Nations? Then do we ha- we do. We don't have time square right right so we just have Then we would try to look at ideally connect the United Nations to Empire State Building. That's a two black central park to United Nations is a three pink so those would be my critical watchlist to say okay. We need pink and black trains. Then we WANNA connected. Probably the Empire State Building Midtown West or to Chelsea to finish out those routes. Would it be great? Yeah that'd be great So then we say okay if I could connect the empire state building midtown West. That's the Chew Green is almost. Don't then a like a almost like Chelsea's pretty safe So then we'd have the top half the map locked up who gets repaying to black to green and we'd have like our top part of the map blacked up. Then we know we have to get Grammercy Park we have to get to which is another option with that We have to get Chelsea in there in Greenwich village so it probably look at trying to connect to Chelsea to graeme park Like I just go whatever. Whatever 'cause we cook midtown West or the Empire State building or the United Nations? There is a to orange between. Chelsea and Grammercy Park But there's also ways connected to the Empire State Building so pretty good in once we have connect like either. We have to connect to some part of our monster routes either Chelsea or grams park right so either way if we can act one of those in its interconnected to our whole routes then also we have to do is connect either Chelsea or grammercy park to drew to Greenwich Village. And we don't have the East village right so we don't have to worry about that a boy so then we're in pretty much. I mean I don't want to start bragging. But once we get a Greenwich Village attached to Is that really it? Wow Yeah we would be. I don't know how many trains you get so we could be in trouble for that too so I might have taken too many cards for that. But then we really are in dominant position because basically also we have to do is connect a Greenwich Village to Chinatown in Brooklyn. And we could do that if we need to. By indirect means Because the Lower Manhattan is very busy like we could use We could go like along route from Chelsea to Soho. We could girlfriend. V Greenwich Village to show. We could go straight to Chinatown. We could go from Brooklyn to Wall Street to Chinatown. We could go from Brooklyn to Wall Street to Soho to Greenwich Village to Chinatown if we did if we needed to. The betcha options would be more limited. You go to the East village and Lower East side so yeah. I wouldn't feel terrible about that. I mean this would be the high. We would probably win the game But we would have to kind of lucky and some of our car draws. We'd have to be very efficient in card counting as far as like okay. How many cards? So the people have left. How many taxis are left in putting down trains Like as we get him but liking down routes in making sure the other players trying to block us because we wouldn't want to lose any of those main northern routes Just because once those down and then start to be inefficient asserted. WanNa chart placings efficiently. But I would think we'd be in good shape like really like How are we draw? How well are we getting? Lucky with like you're getting the colors we need. How aggressive is a other players because there's sometimes players especially the players that just start playing playing playing in their putting down routes even if they're not connecting destinations? They're playing really fast. And if you get a couple of fast players then we're going to be in last place. So this strategy that we played with that many destinations is really like A. It is all or nothing thing but it wouldn't be all or nothing right away like we'll be in the game until the game ends and then we'd probably either win or come in last But it is a kind of a kind of aggressive play to like do for this for the bigger game so I I would. You'll find out like this one and be like okay. There's just not enough tax season cards to go for that. Many destinations in the could adjust in the next game. So it's a little bit about this game ticket to ride. It's great game by the AP version. I'll have to meal by the new. Yeah oh by the new version. Let you know when this comes out with. The latest version is like So that yeah you say okay. Scoot similar alpay. Whatever ten twenty bucks? If that's how I mean it's definitely worth it to me. In also by scientists episode comes out of play Lada. Home version. So yeah let me Be Stuck in their dreams of Choo Choo Choo in bus bus bus and off to dreamland. Good night. I wanted to thank everybody. 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STL212.5: What mallets does a woodworker need?

Shop Talk Live - Fine Woodworking

21:38 min | 11 months ago

STL212.5: What mallets does a woodworker need?

"Bowness episode what is this bonus episode? That's right Mike. And I decided just do a quick episode testing out some online podcasting techniques and services and I'll be honest with you. This one was a little bit rough. We had quite the delay between when one of us would say something in the other one would hear it so the conversations a little stilted and the video. I'm ditching so there is no video for this episode. I apologize for that. We'll try and get it worked out next time but yes so bonus episode. We're just going to be doing a couple of questions. We'll still have the full hour long episodes on the weeks. You've come to expect them in between we're going to be doing some different shorter fun stuff. Okay hope everyone enjoys so we're here to do a quick little bonus episode. We figured in this time of isolation people have been asking for some extra episodes and we. We've always been game for that. It's just a matter of trying to make it happen. We're going to try and force it right now for a little while Mike how have you been? You've been getting in the shot. Depends who's listening if my Tom is listening. I'm getting in at lunchtime. And before and after work and if he's not listening you know it's nice to be fifty feet away from my shop in case I need to get included done. Run Out for twenty minutes. You know I'm getting more woodworking done than I did when we used to work in office. So that's a good thing. Oh Yeah me too. It's you know here's the thing. I've been struggling a little bit because I'm happier about it so I think that's the tremendous benefit. So let's just keep that line. Everybody needs absolutely. I've I've I actually have been. I'm when I come out for my nighttime shop time. I'M TRIPPING OVER CAMERA AIR. So that's that's new and not enjoyable but are so. We thought that we'd just like answer to question. Focus so normally do four and it's an hour long we figure we'll do too and just do a quick twenty minute or whatever episode. We'll we'll see And I didn't at it these at all or put him like I normally do so all right so this first question is from Greg and he has a question about the ultimate Shaker. Workbench that you and Matt did a while back right and he said I understand how I would hold board using the twin screw vice and sliding deadman for edge work but how would I hold boards for planning the faces if I were to put holes in. The top is thick enough to accommodate. Hold fast without the drawers interfering. What are my other options? That is kind of a good question. I was looking at hold fast and I was looking back at the plans and On a normal bench like my bench. I've got like on the front of Trussell ends which are connected with the bottom rail in a top rail with a dropbox stuck in between the top and bottom rail. But on the Shaker workbench. Since my cat on the Shaker workbench there is no top rail in the front. The dropbox goes right up. Right up to the underside of the top. So there is a portion of the top which overhangs the dropbox to the Front. You can get some Hold fast in. You can get some hold fast on the ends of the top where because the top is is quite a bit longer than the drawer boxes and the other thing. This is what I haven't checked because I don't have access to that bench right now. Is that the drawer. Box doesn't have a top to it. There's it's sort of an open framework so I oh yeah I was really so I guess it depends on what you have in the drawer. In terms of getting clearance. If that hold fast polk's down into the drawer you may not be able to open it too far But I think I don't know if you could also you could maybe get a little shorter hole faster than it would be fine. I think you'd be okay or put a block on top so you have your work piece in a block and then the whole fast if there's if if if it doesn't make it. I think it's a little bit which is going to affect the clearance so go in drill holes and put a hole fasten their put it in. Cba hits anything If not if it does you may need to keep your top doors empty. They can just be sort of like fo- drawer fronts or something. The shakers did that. That's perfectly acceptable acceptable. If you haven't built it yet you could just leave the top of drawers off right What I would do is I would probably have. Because the back has top and bottom rail I would just probably do a top and bottom rail on the front too and then just have the drawers start below that rail and so the thickness of the rail plus thickness of the top and the gap. Between the top of that rail. You'd have plenty of room as it is. That's why I wish I could get in there because I would want to give it a try because I kind of think. There's not going to be a problem but I don't know for sure. I would account for lack because I think I measured in when you at the time you you weren't using hold fast so it's it's it's very possible to go throughout your woodworking life and never used hold fast. Yes but I would have to say now. That would be a sad existence. Now that I've actually tried them out actually worked pretty while but I would say the time. We made the bench in design bench. It is true that I did not take into account. Hold FAST NOT TO SAY. They're not GONNA work. I'm just not quite sure about it. I when I was clamping like a three quarter inch thick piece of stock my benchtop. I just went out and tried it on my bench. The whole vast sticks out the low will my benchtop only like inch and three quarter. I'm not sure what are benchtop was on that guy. If that benchtop was three inches it was four. I think well the frame for the bench shot if that was three inches than it would only be sticking out Five inches below van. Take so yeah. This reason why I didn't answer this question. You could certainly cut one off. You can do that right. Get because unless you need to hold like really really thick thick stock. You can chop that thing down and still have plenty of clearances still definitely get at least a quarter stock underneath there. So maybe a short pair and then a long pair. If you're doing some big chunky carving things or something like yeah. They're not they're not super expensive. Grammercy are like forty bucks. It'd be worth you know if you're really into hold fast. It'd be worth getting to apologize. That Silica really horrible answer. Well if it doesn't work just come off a little bit and that'd be fine or funded. It's a real answer is no yeah it's A. It's a really good question and I wish. I wish we could get into the office and trout the bench because I could answer that question for sure. One day Write on so. Let's let's let's look at the second question here discovered shop talk live last year and I've listened to all the episodes You do a fantastic job. Keep up the great work. I've recently purchased some Japanese style. Dovetail Chisels from leave Allie. And I'm wondering about the advice. Your host would have for purchasing a hammer to strike them with round or square. And what about what? Wait for what kind of work from Marc New Mexico so you you use an actual Japanese Amer right. Yeah Yeah I think that's a Because the Japanese chisels with the Medal of the top they're designed to be struck with metal hammer so Not that you have to if you're used to using around mallet or something like that that's okay. I do like the hammer because it does give it. I think a sharper and more accurate hit to it rather than like the round surface of the Malan And in terms of I just went through Japan. Woodworker which is now a part of woodcraft and I got A. I think it's sold as a thirteen ounce hammer but I believe the equivalent is probably really identified as the three hundred seventy five gram hammer says about thirteen ounces. Almost a pound I I like it. I think that's fine. Do use that for everything I mean like. I'm trying to think you use that for chopping mortices. You use that for dovetails. That is your hammer in the shop. Hasn't it well? It's one of them. I use it when I'm striking chisels when I'm setting pins in tenants and that sort of thing where I don't use it is when there's metal on metal contact so if I'm using like a little a nail punch or find using those little number punches were I'm striking metal. I just pull out my regular claw hammer for something like that and then I use a bigger heavier hammer. When I'm driving a John Stewart do you ever use tableau? I use a dead blow a tons and tons when I'm something in disassembling furniture got that little black dead low. That's great because then you don't have to worry about. Marin your work everything you just pound away on that Have you ever gone like I've got Chris? Kochner actually made it namedrop One of those round Carver's mallets that that's my my chisel whack in? Mala most most of the time but I don't have Japanese but I've really come to use those ally. I've got a couple of other soft mallets and I've got the crucible. What is that called the I just those thanks so much fun. It's a nice time I have to say but the carvers mallets. You've you've never gotten into the round face hammers. Yeah I did. I had I had one for years and I think I must have given it away because I don't have it anymore. It was just like a really heavy. Cocoa Bolo Mallet Traditional carver smell at that. You just by woodworking store those quite a while ago. That was my Go-to when I had just regular western chisels and that's fine. I don't have it Don't have it anymore and I don't miss it because like you know why use predominantly Japanese chisels In which I strike with regular hammer. I'm trying to think what I do with. Ms Western. Chisels I probably hit those with a hammer to just because I'm used to that They've tried to hit with a dead blow hammer now. They know that Blow Mallet so horrible. Feeling this is like the dunk you you hear the BBC's sorta rolled around inside too. So so my my dad I desperately need to get a new debt blow because Especially before I had any sort of insulation or heat out here I was just doing some woodworking and I'm trying to remember what I was doing. I whacking something with the dead blow and that school that Orange Harbor freight plastic just did not hold up to twenty degree woodworking and it just started disintegrating and now one whole face of my dead blow is just like that metal canister. That's inside it's actually. It's Kinda cool but it's it's it's not great. Isn't that great? So that's pretty cool. Yeah I I recently got one of those It's an S. wing. Mala has a plastic face. A soft rubber face. I got for Fred Frith boards and I have found I use that all the time too because it it it acts like a gentler dead blow. It's Nice what what are you working on. Right now Well that's one of the things that you know. It's sort of unfortunate situation these days in a number of ways but One thing where it's impacted me is that I've cancelled basically hall of my woodworking classes. I had coming up between now and so far the debate role in you know we may be pushing beyond that so all this time I would normally be. They're packing up for teaching breaking down for teaching or prepping class dock and that sort of stuff so right now. I have probably more free shop time than I had in a really long time. So I've had a commission which I gave a pretty far out due date on that but I've been in the shop working on. Say KULU CASE ON STAN. Peace and is just really nice. Even though I'm not out there you know eight hours a day. But just be able to have kind of a contiguous amount of shop times devoted to a single project It's really nice. You find that groove. You don't forget what you're doing if you kinda know if you finish a task go back out in the house when you come back in the next time you kind of know what you're doing you know there's that going on so it's really really nice. I really enjoyed. It's just nice to be in my shop again. Making furniture in it made me realize how I kind of gotten away from that and I kind of consider myself a little bit too lazy for not making enough furniture but it made me realize how much class prep Really eats into my shop time so even though I'm out there I wasn't necessarily working on furniture so you know if there's any silver lining. It's just that I'm actually doing real stuff. And hopefully that'll turn into new articles in new classes and book chapters and all that kind of stuff down the line. Now Still working on Ukulele molds and things like that I the other night though I just I was a little overwhelmed for obvious. Reasons and went through the scrap pile and pulled out a chunk of Cherry Start Carbon Doing some Michael Collins Style texturing. And that's one of those things where you you have to be really like your mind can't wander but there's nothing to really think about you. You're you're really really focused on the task at hand. Which is carving in a nice neat form. That isn't shoe much of a pattern. You're trying to do all you know. So just carved two sides of this block and then through some milk paint on it and the next day through some more a different color. And I'm just mess around with Michael Collins Style textures and coloring. I literally just finished. It's just a little pencil coulter former for my desk in here. But it's it's got back that carving that's fun and it was just a good. Don't think about anything other than the gouge going through this piece of wood right now and I actually took two promo. I'll be. I'm about to make his video workshop. Free in front of the Pay Wall. Because I figure that's a great project for times like this where it doesn't the band saw boxes don't require a whole lot of stock They're quick you can just go out and work on them and and get your mind off things and and it's a pretty genius technique too so I thought that would be a good thing to make available. Yeah very cool. Hey let me ask you a question about your shop time. You know I think. Probably just about every woodworker who owns a shop. When it came to that notion of social distancing were like yeah. I'm really good with that. I got my shah going to get out there I did find the first week or so. It was hard to find that attention span to get be really productive or to even feel like. I really shouldn't be out here right now did you were you out with just sort of you know like you said finding time to shop and find that concentration to do the work you want to do well for me it was. It was made worse by the fact that I didn't get really focused on project and right now. I want to make my next to Ukulele. And I don't have the the wood for it and I have to order from Canada and it was one of those times when I didn't have the money to do it. And then you didn't WanNa spend money if you didn't need to and then it was just eventually like last week. I ordered because it was like no. This is for my sanity right now. I just need to have right. I just need to forge ahead with this project. Yeah but there there. There's definitely sometimes you just come out and just feels silly to to to be focusing on anything and there's also you know that whole thing of like this is not a time to have a mishap. Because you don't WanNa be in a in an emergency room so right. That's a really good point. That's one thing to be mindful of. I think for me and it's something that that has always been an issue for me in the shop. His shop time has always been something that was pretty tough to come by or when I was in the shop I felt maybe a little guilty about not being doing other things I should be doing. So is this notion of Okay I have some time in the shop. How do I make that meaningful and I think just kind of with the current situation? What am I doing? Why am I out there and I think it comes down for me? The core a furniture making you know we're we're making useful objects you know. Obviously my personal time in the shop like you said is super good for my sanity So that's good for me personally but then also making work. That's functional is going to be used by other people That's a really important thing in a really great opportunity to enhance the quality of life of for the others. Who were using your work. In in a way it provides a connection to other people even though we're loaning are shot making something by ourselves just knowing that what we're making is going to use into a person and they're going to be able to put that to us on it creates that kind of a connection that might be sorta hard to kind of find right now and it also adds to this notion of is what. I'm doing in the shop important. Should I be out here? It's like yeah that's important enough. That's that's a good reason to be out there making things along with like you said. Just Hey I'm you know not too far from my shop and I can get out more often. That's a good thing so that's all gone now. The the why and how down. There's a little bit of a delay there. I didn't know what you're saying to mention my book or something. I could if I hear that. Yeah it was definitely the the delay. That's that's going on here. Yes the Wyan. How yeah. It's a great time to read. It is a good time to read is a good time to read woodworking books. And it's a good time to read woodworking books that really speak to investing meaning in the work that you're doing and that's okay all right. So that's all for this episode That's as far as the technology. Let us go. The conversation was wrapping up anyways. But if you have any questions you'd like us to answering the show police on them into shop dot com. We are still coming into work everyday. Although we're working from home and this is a great time to be getting. Us questions because we're going to start camping up. 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Local Hour: What's Good?!

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Local Hour: What's Good?!

"Bedale podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card or four percent cashback on dining entertainment two percent at grocery stores. One percents on all purchases. What's in your wallet? Hello. Happy friday. My what's good, Billy? That's what I'm gonna play. It's my favourite game. Oh, man. What's good seven eight six four five six four eight three seven seven eight six four five six four eight three seven for little game. I like to call. Oh, what's good? What's what's go? Do today before we get calls. It's friday. Tomorrow's the weekend. I'm getting married. Not going, man. Marriage is stressful. And I'm not married yet. Wedding planning is definitely stressful. If I could tell you one thing. Yes, the marriage easy part. Really? Yeah. The kidding is the tough poor. Now the kid why don't have a kid coming yet. I'm saying like the marriage get your because you've been with her for a while. When you're when you're when you're married you're going to be two weeks in your marriage. And you're saying what not that different. Really? Yeah. Hm? What's good with you? Well, it's Friday. Yeah. I had a good breakfast this morning. Yeah. Yeah. Gee. We'll Dunkin donuts in. Yeah. So they just blindly take these calls. Yeah. Seventy six four five six four eight three seven law line one. What's good? Seventy six four five six eight three seven. What's good caller three? When you take a dunk, and you white, and it's very clean. You know, what that's a bit crass? I will tell you that right now it's a bit. I wanna say inappropriate, but what's your name? Jaren jaren. Yeah. Like airlifted J O Jaren. All right. Well, thanks to. And you know, what that is? Good surprisingly good, Mike. What's good? Hi, I'm and like, a nice crispy piece of bacon like pan pan-fried, not the one that you put in the oven. What is Ken fried bacon? Like when you cook it in a pan. Oh, ten right and go big. And it can you know, what I saw the other day, Mike. I saw the other day this microwavable bacon that comes in this like sheet, and you just kind of a row seat of four in the microwave, and I was trying to figure out how exactly healthy that would be. I guess 'cause I don't think that bacon. That's microwaved is to appetizing. I can't imagine the whole thing about bacon. It needs to be crispy. And I can't see getting crispy in the microwave. Yeah. All right. Well, thanks for calling my Moshe. What's good? Once good. I I just got a new job down in New York City, and I'm super plums. Oh, yeah. What was your old job? Yeah. My old job was less. I've my current job will be so it's gonna be really good. It's very mysterious. What's your current job? You don't want to. Nah, I'm I'm a basketball. Coach awesome. Congratulations. Yeah. Thanks when does the season start. The season got starting October. I'm gonna be working, you know, at the college. I'm just doing some more stumps. I'm pretty pretty excited. Cool. Well, congratulations on the new job means just walked didn't have a good day. I mean just walked in with breakfast flawn hole. All right, ready fun. I guess so. Right. I mean is your favorite game with good is over playing right now. Yeah. Oh, man. I love these. I got I got it. Good. I gotta what's good way. Before we go to Jacob. Okay. All right there. You can play along with us. All right. Chris what's getting a piece of snail mail that isn't a Bill so good, right? It's like something olack Z needed. This. Somebody sent me something that is meaningful. It's not just a Bill is snail mail. Just regular mail is just mailed. It comes is that people say, so they'll mail it. That's how you know. Come so slow it takes to get to you as as opposed to an Email. It goes really fast in in some cases. What do we call an Email like like, I know it's electric, man. Like, what's the Bill? Yeah. Like, a cheetah male cheetah male fast mail, because we we all know that. It's that's that's it. Right. Like in this day and age of us into our mail it to you it goes there. Super-quick because you're emailing it. But if I'm sending to you physically has done is not the regular quick mail that you're accustomed to this snail mail where did spam? The name come from like reference to male female. I think the the same kind of concept like people. No spam is busy all the crappy parts of the leftover parts of the pig. Just grind it up and put into a can right. Same thing. Here is like this is all the crappy parts of male, the grinded up in the Senator also in the can all right sorry about that. Jake. What's good? Take take. I jacob. Hey, what's good is? When you listen up a new pair of shoes. And then you lace them all the way to the top. And post sides of your shoelace are the same length all my dried Joe, so good. If I could plan that I can never get it. And then I have to do the thing where undo do you Jacob? Let me ask you a question. Do you leave them uneven or do you then go back and try again caller? No, I have to go back and try in and because it's just so annoying head to one side of just relate super long the other side super short. And it's it's it's a hassle to go back and forth between shoelace where she slipped on the right side left size and the right side. Jacob, but if you get it on the first try. Let me ask you, do you undo it all together and redo it from the beginning or do you do the let me make a slight adjustment here? And then keep pulling pulling pulling and hoping that slight adjustment isn't an over judgment. I work my way down shoelace. So I I'll go to the very next bottom hole. And so I'll tell on it a little bit. But I usually end up having to go back all the way to the bottom because I messed up if you mess about the bottom, just go straight across. That bottom line is key is getting into saving the bottoms most important because you gotta make sure the two lasers are the same at the bottom. Do you go when you lace your shoes you go under or over the whole like do you go by the underneath? And it comes out the top. Or do you go over the top? And it comes through the bottom o our go under and over the past. Yeah, you have to this. As far as I know. There are two styles. There's just there's the one that we're describing where you put both sides evenly news go under under under under. And then there's the other one where the one lace comes from the the first hole all the way to the last hole. And then the other lace has to do this exact by self. Visit was that one? No that one that one's freaky. When you see it bevy sina. I've seen people have it. Jacob. I don't know what you're talking about. So so so Jacob I'm gonna tell you right now. So right now, you put both ways as into the first two holes. And then you got one lace it goes to the first hole on the left and one of the first one the right and they cross back. Right. That's the normal style. And when you look at your laces now, they're they're bunch of Xs right on your own issue. The other style is when you put the two laces in the first hole, one lace skips all the holes in this goes right to the final hole while the other one does the crossing and leasing bags when you look at your shoe instead of having a bunch of exes. You have a bunch of parallel lines. Not only offered chat Taylor. Exactly. Want you to look at me? Yeah. That's that's a little little hole in the middle of a suit time. Do you always go through that? I I skip it, Krissy. Skip it. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard. It's it's I mean, I know it's there, and it should be there. I have these. I have these Nikes that have like these weird like like rubber things on the outside that I wear some. I don't know how to pronounce the name of it or I would occas, but I don't want to sound like an Indian get made fun of by sneaker heads. And it's like these goals that are like way almost by like the most by like the bone of your ankle. But like on the bottle they're far away from where the all the ways. And I and I went and I got them. And I go all the way down to those just because that's risky. What part of the reason that why do that is because I'm afraid that that little rubber things going to fall off. And I'm going to lose it. So I don't wanna lose it. This is supposed to hold it tight. Yeah. Making sure that actually has happened where it's just hanging by the thing. Wow. Do you guys keep the shoelaces that come with the shoes or sometimes you switch them out? Like, I switch bought some pink laces for some sneakers because the sneakers had like a little pink accents. And I didn't like the blue laces because it was too matchy matchy with the shoe Jacob. When I was when I was younger like in middle school. I used to enjoy fat laces the fat shoelaces, which I remember those. Yeah. I remember those. Yeah. Hey, when you were growing up did you have like a PayLess? Did you get like those like those laces that were like like almost like like springs, they were like super tightly wound, and you don't tie them, you just pull them, and they kind of coil into themselves, and they're like always tied shoe of of never I've never seen this. You haven't lived. I tell you to go to PayLess, I think they're closing. Now. The the satisfaction that we get when we have even shoelaces do we get the same satisfaction in basketball shorts with the string. Sometimes those are uneven. I've got what's good for you? That's based on that. Thank you. Jacob have a good. You know, what's good when the drawstring in your sweatpants or your shorts? Whatever gets pulled too far and the ones I goes inside it and you're like, no hold on. Listen, I've lost it forever. But then you go like on a excavate you kind of an in the head again you pull it back. Oh my God. We saved you thought we lost shorts where I couldn't get it. So I had to pull out like, yeah. These string lists right? Yes. When when you fear that. String looseness, but then you manage to rescue it from the jaws of the feet are so good. So good. I love doing because I feel so accomplished when idea you know, what I've noticed have you noticed there's some brands I think Nike's one of the brands were instead of like if let's say it's like, you're right side. The lace doesn't come from the right side. It goes from the left, and he goes to loop around the middle that loops around to find a harder to find. But I have done it. I have been so six and when I'm successful. It's such knows good today. What was that? Good Friday traffic. Oh my God. I mean, you didn't have much. Oh my God. Crossing the street was no that's ever been. I I got a late start today. But I made up for it with the lack of traffic on notice. I got here. Right. When I usually do sometimes I wish they'd like every day was a holiday, but even I have to work. It's just idea that people are out of the way. This is a great feeling. I feel like eventually you get tired of that. If every day was a holiday, and you had to work he'd be like what I be on holiday today. No. If I had my normal number of holidays and weekends and all that I think that'd be all right with it just to not deal with people with people fan of people. I mean, they get in the way a lot of times. Yeah. Parker. What's good? I'm going on vacation on Saturday. Oh, yeah. Where you're going. I am driving from San Diego to San Francisco. That doesn't on its outset. Look like a what's good or Celica was why because it's traffic. We just talked about it and send it over ten days. Oh, you can stop it. The little beat cities and stuff like that. Yeah. I've done that before by the way, you do in the Pacific highway, right? Yeah. We're we go or where should we not go, man? I did it like ten years ago. So I can't remember. But, but I remember it was pretty pleasant, and I'll tell you what you do you stop at the towns, they've never heard of those are really fun those beat side towns. And then what I'd like to do is imagine. What if I just moved here know what I'm going to buy a house here and leave him a life behind how many people do you think follow through on that? Because I feel like a lot of people go on vacation like me, and my life would be so much better. If I lived here, and then a live here, and it's not really the location. You're trying to escape thought that last weekend escape, I was like I could live the way come to magic kingdom, everyday crews really have you ever been on our no remember, I'm the guy that said I've never been on a cruise or an amusement park. You're doing neither. No that you didn't say you. Should I go to San Francisco? I I wanted to book one of those y'all didn't make them sound very fun. So I just did this. Instead, what do we make all we did was? Calling for ten we talked like three segments about how much fun. They were. What are you going to make it sound fun? You're made it sound so stressful that you have to plan. You can't have any free time that it's like you said your first time you just have to like it's going to be planned out. You're going to be a rookie. That sounds like a terrible vacation. No, we said that they have options for you all day. Are you talking? We're talking cruises right now. Right. They have a cruise compass maybe mixing up amusement park worth crews won't make me probably I probably look I'll take the blame on this one. I probably made them both on miserable because I can be a little anal from time to time and over plan these things and stress myself out and Parker. I'm sorry that now you're stuck with a crappy vacation in San Francisco. You guys know what's good? What's good when you walk into your house, and your hotel room, whatever and you turn on the TV and on the first channel you turn the TV on. There is a rerun of show that you watch all the time. But this was the episode that you didn't. Oh, and so good. I hate when I watched the same episode over and over again of stuff I liked that at Nightline I'm trying to go to sleep because it lets you go to sleep because. Yeah. Because I don't feel my brain doesn't we will happen next. You can just do you have a show that you go to to go to sleep like a last show that you watch family got family guy, but on a dull swim, and I watch family guy. I'm gonna sleep too that I've been on like a partial threat like oh of comedy central has had like a little now. I've just been going on Netflix. Oh, put on parks. And right. I don't like I don't like putting on Netflix to go to sleep because I feel like it's just gonna keep going. That's the thing. So I put on a sleep timer. And I know that's going to turn off my TV. But then the episodes keep going, right, which is. Problem because then I forget exactly wearing this. Leap ahead that problem. Netflix is only good. If you have a plan going in the worst is when you just turn on Netflix. Let's scroll around see what I'm going to watch it. I can never pick anything. Nothing looks. Appease I'll scroll for a half hour yet. Nothing. Looks good never gone on Netflix without a plan going in as it. Oh, that's here. Let's watch this. I mean, I've heard some things I'll I'll give it a try. I'm kind of with you. And I feel like there's a lot more than Netflix that I can watch that. I might like that. I can't find unless I'm searching specifically for it. Yeah. Man. I have you been for the categories towards the bottom like foreign films. Yeah. International documentaries and things like that. I've never even looked at this before. But it never comes up. No. I mean, a lot of the times when I go through the categories, and I'm like, I wanna see an action movie I'm like by page like what would be seventeen of action movies, and it's all like stealing. It will move to get worse. The deeper you get all ya until the problem, occasionally, you know, it's good the hidden gem that's deep within those movies. Which kind of makes me wonder what did this person do to get themselves? So buried in the Netflix where it's amongst movies. I've never heard of. Well, it's the it's the algorithm like your net. Flicks is not look like mine when you start to search through action movies, for instance, it's trying to predict which ones you're going to be interested in based on the ones you've watched already. And so that's why. Sometimes something will be hidden for you. It might be very apparent for me. But that goes back to my whole thing. Like, I don't have all day keep scrolling to guess at the algorithms notice talking about I'd rather know what I want and go find it. I got another. What's good? Oh, a fresh towel out of the dryer Rian right out of the show. You know, what I hate? If you leave your towels in the dryer too long before you dry them or you leave him the wash too long. And then they get that smell so wash him again, that's bad as you know, what else is bad, even though this is what good this segment without music. I noticed a little worse. Stugatz here. Hiring is challenging, but there's one place you can go. Hiring is simple, fast and smart a place where growing businesses connect to qualify candidates. That place is ZipRecruiter dot com slash, Dan. Ziprecruiter, send your job to over one hundred of the web's leading job boards, but they don't stop there. No, they don't they're powerful matching technology. 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In Nelson, fire happens all the time. It's all good. Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more donlevatar. Oh. See spoke outs. Will make a port. Show with the stugatz on the ticket. Oh the. Were you guys moved in any way because you guys have been Dwayne Wade celebrators were you move that on his last day at the heat facility. He's set around signing autographs actually, never sat down stood around signing autographs for a couple of hours. Just for employees taking pictures for anybody in the building who wanted to take pictures with him and spending the entire time without complaint. Yeah. It was really cool to see. However, I think I kind of side with Billy's general sand on this. He's been filming a documentary. And that there were camera crews out there for that. And I think this was sort of like the end of that documentary to make sure cameras where they're documenting this show. No, you weren't you weren't moved by it. You're totally cynical and Skype was cool being that for hours and signing things for people was a nice gesture like his career's done. He. Effectively doesn't have to be there in doing anything his contracts over anyone that a nice thing for all the employees that work for the heat when Jerry Colangelo finally like finalized sale of the sons on his last day to the same thing. He took a picture with everybody. There was no documentary though. Yes, e- that's a that's a different. I don't. I don't doubt that Dwayne what done something for the employs. But they had the the arena dress like it was still his final night. They were shooting specific things for this documentary. I'm sure he would have taken the time out as he has over the course of his career to be very nice all the arena employs. But it it did seem like it was part of the documentary doing what he wants to do. Now. After mean, like now that it's over looks like drink his wine on the golf course is what from straight from the bottle is what he wants the picture. He posted of him sitting at his locker saying they cleaned. It out made me sad. The videos of him doing pictures with people I was kind of on both sides. I I was I was moved by nights. It was. But then I was like, oh, you're posting it on your Instagram. So I kinda saw both sides of that story. But I got a little sad. When I saw him say cleaning my locker guys him cleaning on his locker as a scene in the documentary. Like, it was well, I don't know if you saw the lighting around his locker like it was shot specific stored Inari looked like it looked like his locker wasn't a corner. Have it is. But normally that's I mean people clean out their lockers after the game the last game of the season. It doesn't look that. Cool. I told Billy the other day I've been in the office in LA when they shot a sportscenter commercial, and they will literally take everyone's desk and clean it off. And make it look like, quote, unquote, an office. I could not believe that story that they have an office a per- perfectly functioning office with normal outfit supplies, and then they remove all of that. They sanitize it. And then they put in what they think an office would look list with props of an office. Yes. Win those office supplies. We're already there. He told me that they put up a cork board at some point. And they just started putting up like hamburger commercials do that. Where all the things that they're showing you that are incredibly great to look at or even they're not even edible often. It's often paint when. A kid. I did a helman's mayonnaise commercial girl that was on the commercial had to be hospitalized taking an ambulance because she actually bit into one of the burgers and a safety pin got lodge between the top of roll, my Bod helman's mayonnaise paid. Well, jesus. That's why mccreath man I want to ask you guys this though, if you guys look at the last five years of weight, maybe seven years of weight where it was discount discount discount, the the relationship sours with the top of the organization in a way that makes him leave for more money to somewhere else. And then. When the heat get him back. The they pay him very little, especially when you just oppose it against what his value actually was this season as the only interesting thing on that entire team. And so how do you repair? That you feel underpaid. And my guess is every night you get home. You're talking to your wife about men a lot of people are making money here who aren't mate, how do you? Do it. Hashtags documentaries, sell all your stuff away truck. Wandering around the facility of just dumping merchandise on anybody who's got a dollar. We don't know the exact details of its buyout wish icago. But if I say that he didn't take the full amount that was left in that contract. So he probably loss out money on the decision. Probably make he's he's married to a starlet. He probably made a decision somewhere in there. Oh, I can go back there. Get the right ending and make my own money. And then just get the punctuation I want which is never the way the old guy gets to finish anywhere. In sport. I was monitoring this. It's a merchandise. It's the documentary. We we've yet to Budweiser. It's always monetize ING too. We really criticizing some for monetize ING too much. Yeah. Up eight million dollars on his bio. Eight hundred twenty three and some change. For that back. Well player hidden. I don't I don't understand Chris's common as funny as it is just coming from him because he is on the path to trying to become an executive. And usually when you're executive what you do is you do that. But you don't let anyone know that you're doing. Now, you do it quietly where people don't notice where you're quietly selling your soul in ways that are sort of imperceptible while making your Bank and seeing everything clear, I'm seeing everything clear now, that's what's happening. Not like selling a fodder video of your phone into the Bush. Aki? This is when you have a players coach and the locker room is sort of out of control, and you have a team. That's not quite for filling. What the expectations are you go the opposite end with that head coach get the disciplinarian type and the players that you said the players coach, they're not happy that used to run the joint. But now the disciplinarians getting back to fundamentals and hey, the ws are coming and you realize hey, Windsor fund selling Grammercy in two minutes. That's good being number one on podcast over Oprah. These are immediate rewards. Oh, wait how much paying for tickets who what's my cut of that? Roy you say here we go. But you and Bill you're the only ones that are hold out corporate, my was making all sorts of inroads. He got Meena a commercial. He got us highest rated segment on I take with all their advertising the trying to do with everybody. I take there wasn't a higher rating than the ones guts and his army made an appearance you're not gonna get me to go to the dog side, Dan, refuse to you've been living there all your life. Hey. Roy you saw the emails in the calls that I was on with corporate. I was so upset when I take all week was just had ties in the ride home shows they were advertising highly questionable all week long. We'll show they were mentioning our show. We were the ones doing the hidden the hit, Dan and stugotz didn't even wanna do this hit. And I was like guys GI global expansion initiative. Let they're gonna give us a ball. We'll go to run with it. We're gonna kill it. And nobody's going to be talking about that bum show highly questionable by the time. We're done with it question. How did they cast menas dog because it's one of the dumbest animals of ever seen and. All of us. How surprising crap all over the place. You don't wrong, you know. You know, what I mean is wrong about that? That dog seem particularly bright to you Lenny's pretty dumb dog. He didn't strike was her actual dog. That was Lenny. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Way to go Billy. You wanna retract that? Because it seems like the fear swallowed your faith. Now, Dan that was me joking. So you're good with me not knowing that you think that her dog is dumb. What is she gonna do? That's already hasn't. I think we've already established you guys as dynamic EPA meaning gets commercials. You guys get the glory of out. Even though you claim to not know what this is even though there have been several Email. I don't know what I still don't know what we're doing is just sort of your thing. What are we doing over here? And I'm just they're just making ratting in walls. Well, but Chris if you seen what's happened with Chris because I'm getting fed up with him. I mean in that he is becoming like I love him and his family, and I love his fish nece. We all do. But he is now not unlike Chris Farley working for his father, and whatever movie that was all of them. Every Christmas all movies. He was working for his father. He is. Now is is that a tie on you or you wearing a tie today? Listen, man, I've seen the light. I got a couple of calls out to the show with Mike today. We're I'm buying into this W E G is the station. Whatever I'm buying in. Man. I am in. We gotta we gotta work on this alert going to expand. We're going to initiate global expansion initiative. And that's why the acronym is g we're having pilot or. Chart whatever I'm buying into this busy. No, chris. No, look, he's going to go. But he's been my strong us ally. And all this. He's actually like, hey, this is really cool like we were kind of crapping on this New York event. There was very little incentive. Hell the person that explained it best was Greg. Cody ROY Billy, join us know join the initiative, Billy who Billy are you going to go to the dark side waiting till one o'clock, and it's getting result. There's no disputing the result. This is results oriented business. Okay. I understand the red at once enjoy the show more, and they're sick of the direction that the show's going in and a lot of people complain or get paid per read at post people. I get paid per quarter hours on I take I get paid per two minutes sellouts on at Gramercy theaters in New York City the capital of the world we sold that out in two minutes to minutes. Two minutes with hosts that were being super pushy about who do too much. What you were put in the messaging out there. There's too many announcements deluded about enough up. Not enough Christopher I'm so great today. All you had to do was take the hat off. And people start taking commercial just go to commercial donlevatar. I have to get out of your how do I do this without dropping names here? I have dinner with Dan Marino. Stugatz. I guess there's no way to do it without dropping it. I have to go to dinner would have been fine. These these are show with the stugatz on the ticket because this is a totally hopeless time in Miami sports. We will do what we do best which is self involved. Navel-gazing? I am now going to address as I continue to slide closer and closer to Michael's way corporate way of doing things. No. Yeah. I know I think that's the core of white is people are so upset with us because they see and it is amazing in terms of symbolism that uh the selling out is us actually selling out in two minutes. Like that that the took two minutes hook two minutes to to lose much. Of our fan base. And I'd like to address that loss portion of the fan base because over our career it's been a funny thing, right? The number of people who threaten to leave doesn't really align. With the fact that we've become the big show in sports radio like if everyone were leaving who's threatening to leave, and they do it all the time within three segments everyone three days of being annoyed three segments. I'm done with this. This thing is no longer what it was unwatchable. They've changed. It's not as fun as it was. And I'm saying they keep leaving. But I feel like they were only here for five minutes because the people who've been here from the beginning. They're not leaving. Okay. I've got a question, Michael. You are a noted music of issue. Not. All right. Yes. Imagine dragons ever have a moment their history where there was an indie group, and they were true fans. And then as they blew up people kind of said on sell out kings of kings of Leon wasn't in that happened with them onto sounds like a trap might be. Sent you a fine here. Mike. I don't know what he means by imagine dragons, which if you just look at their billboard success, the probably the most influential rock band in the world right now, you cannot deny their hits their songs are always using ESPN promos that are catchy little ditties. And the proof is in the pudding number one hit after number one hit Grammy award after Grammy award, Grammy performances with Kendrick Lamar halftime show performances. They're one of the biggest they're headlining Woodstock people. They're headlining Woodstock. Okay. Hate on them all you want. They get results is the proof is in the pudding. Put it on the poll. Guillermo is the proof always in the pudding at lebatardshow Instagram and Twitter when I serious though, I do want to talk to these people who get off on bitching like you can go. It's okay. You can go though, you don't have to say anything, you could just be disgusted and go or even better. You could be disgusted launch your complaint that you think you're going to change the way we do business. For fifteen years because I think it's a good idea to use the belief system of someone and the rudder of someone who's not us. I think it's a good idea to anchor myself to the person who got here ten ten minutes ago and his telling us how to do this. I appreciate you finally in the light. Daniel I was actually on that myopic. Cesspool called red at the other day, and I saw someone really pour their heart out into why this week was the straw that broke the camel's back and they're quitting our show forever. And then I went through their history. And I saw similar message almost quarterly. So this person has been saying that they're quitting the show three times a year for the last three years on this read it and they're still around and they were bummed that they couldn't get tickets Grammercy Cannistraro actually break a camel's back put it on the pole Guillermo at lebatardshow. And where does where does that come from is it that the camel carries so much that the last bit of weight is what makes him collapse. Somehow, I don't think that ever happened. That's true. I just I don't think of ever had disaster for the camel owner to say, I just need to put a little more slow one more. Now, the back is broken and the camel can carry anything. It's never the owner. It's his buddy come on. I just need this one piece of store you let me just put it on top. Okay, fine. And he put on top. And that's it. The camel falls down dead on the ground growth is inevitable bliss have the fans that we do. We're just trying to attract more. Now what we've been attracted more by accident. I guess that's what people don't understand because they keep saying some form by accident. They keep saying some form of this is selling out, and I don't like it anymore because now it's mainstream and its popular. And what this is is that we or I at any point of cared in any way about being popular. This is the most popular by leaps and bounds than I've ever been. Remember when we used to be the show that laughed at shows, it only talked about themselves and how great they were MRs. Those were small time days those were shows that couldn't get people out to quarter deck. Okay. That's what those were those were shows that couldn't get people out to to events at all sorts of sports bars around Talia moving on the most embarrassing vulnerable days of my life hiding behind the curtain because we'd sold out a couple of movie theaters. And we said we could do anything, and we did let it ride thirty years later with David Samson, and I was addressing the crowd of seven people from behind the curtain a month soon to it was awful. It was awful. And so for a while there, we were worried that that's what was going to happen with Grammercy. But now Mike bullied by ego buoy by ego and success and selling out into minutes. Now, all of a sudden, it's all gone everybody's head. I mean, they might still happen, right? This tickets are sold, but you guys might be playing. Are you one of those bought truth IRS that I've seen out there, the botch routers? I keep checking the secondary market for all these tickets at the baht scooped up. Yes. Breathing out of your mouth. How are you wearing a jacket and a tie? You're wearing a jacket impressed. Dan. That you have and not just for the job. I want I over this. But this is. He's seen the light. By the way, Chris shirt. Got it. When we go on ESPN looks fantastic. Does look good sharp. You took off who looked like somebody who needs to be respected. He's got the collar that has buttons on it you ever see this where you button the collar down. And those crack me up because I keep thinking the guy who invented them saying mcculskey popping up I need to I need it to stay down. What about the buttons? Right. You know, what I see when I look at you right now Christopher success. I see success. I see someone that's got middle-management written all over them. You can send all the way to the middle. Just keep kissing ass. Keep kissing ass. Billy. What's your problem with everything you you're the only one here wearing one of our sponsors close? So it's not like your sitting here in hiding, not what is selling out at dollarshave Dollar Shave Club. He's is ROY Roy's also wearing something there, ROY. What are you wearing planning Leonard? That's. Get locally about. Okay. There might be a Paola situation that we need to. All right. You guys talk outside. You're gonna get written up again Mike's right and everybody up this this, Mike. I don't think I forgotten about what happened on on Wednesday when you showed up late when you with the President Mr Petar he may have excuse your ads, but is early. Dan, his rallies. Still have it. Oh, wow. I think this good question for me here. Damn what are the dolphins in the draft? Then you say you're leaving with ROY. Well, I just want to hear your answer. Real quick throw out the number. We need listener engagement draft. Another offensive line seven eight six four five six four eight three seven is the telephone number nine forty two rolling with you here on a Friday about eighty degrees and little wet outside. Call letters six degrees. I don't know our car, call letters. W A X Y. You're listening to waxy seven ninety. Thank you. Promote the other shows which. Promote the other shows on seven nineties lineup. Dan, all of the shows, the heart. They are. All right. Let me see here if I can do this because I love the shows in the times air, please. I haven't listened to sports radio in about ten years. Let's see if we can figure this out. It's as low Brett Romberg in the morning and ambers out because of she's about to have a baby or be congratulations amber relations to amber after us. It's LeRoy hoard and beast and Brendan Tobin and Brendan Tobin. How long are they on are they on till three or four they use only be on till three. And then they took off a replay of our show in a huge example of grossness has detained third hour. So they took that our away from us, then four o'clock, it's Chris Perkins. And who else he's been in this market forever? Oh, forgive me. Oh, is it captain Curtis Curtis? Okay. And then Josh Friedman at night. No Freeman his opposite of us on five sixty now. Oh, which is a sister station, and I just. Wanna say this from the bottom of my heart. I have always respected five sixty w q AM, and I'm happy to have them in our family. I have not an m not fort is on it seven. How come at sister station in brother station? Question. Why is that? Got an answer. I was the head of its time sisters while that was the quality the first place that we arrived at equality was when the sisters knocked up brother, you haven't answered Christopher's question about Riley. Okay. Amino has an NBA basketball insider from the front office. The local fan base has believed and had that belief rewarded in Pat Riley for a long time. But this organization right now seems like it's stuck in in the worst kind of purgatory which is not very good. Not very interesting. You're not very relevant. But you're not so bad that you can actually, you know, fix yourself with the league re legislating equality. So what the hell do you do like if you looked at their issues and been able to figure out how they extract themselves from all these four year contracts to players who are pretty average. Well, they've done it by doing the only thing they can do. Wait, you got to wait until they're not for your contracts anymore and. What they've tried to do in the meanwhile is idea of remaining competitive, right? So that when the time comes to go whale hunting again when they have that opportunity, which at least now starts they start the window of we can start trading some of these contracts because they're going into the Lascher their deal, then you've got some some kind of of flexibility there but much of the, hey stuck came because they paid a bunch of dudes at shouldn't have paid. And you know, that handcuff you, and it goes back to what I talked about months ago if your claim to fame not just in the last few years, but literally the history of this organization would Riley at the top of it where we find the hidden gems. We find the Sean Leonard's dyke. Austin's Assan Whiteside Tyler John, then why do you ever feel compelled to Pam you can go find? But you have to have the stars to make those guys elevated. They don't wait is the only guy they've had. I think we'll have this right that they themselves. Have groomed. Into an all star a star player in the history of the franchise their histories, go get someone else's stars Tim Hardaway Alonzo Mourning. Lebron James go get someone else's stars. They've groomed. Dwayne wade. And it's why the attachment is what it is in this market because he's the only who else is there who else would you give would you give I- Gostyn, Sean, Leonard aren't winning anything. But the the point is they didn't pay a Dwayne Wade. They paid the I costumes of Sean Lennon's when you talk about James Johnson Tyler Johnson, the waiters Assan whites. That's what they paid. They paid with Sean Lennon tonight a bunch of guys that they looked dudes develop them. Don't get me wrong. But like I said if you're Cleveland famous I find I have a goose that lays gold, why are you ever going to the market and paying gold ago? Prices right? You got the goose so you should only be consumed with paying people who you don't. Otherwise, have like co I Leonard. Exactly, it's nine forty seven on a Friday morning. Tim Kirch in joining us at eleven year listening to seven ninety ticket. I just want to reset for the audience, Dan. You're obviously here sitting silently when we played the sound. But what do you make this sound Pat Riley going at IRA wonderman from the south to Sun-Sentinel during his postseason wrap up with media justified it up because Abbott? There's too much about money. You were too much money. You were too much about the lengthy contracts. You you always bring all of this stuff up about this contract is that I mean at one time the would be considered guy that's got a mid level. Contra understand, you know in the same thing with James Johnson. So when you start talking about, you know, getting stuck with contracts, then take a look at four or five or six other teams in this league. They got twenty five thirty five forty million dollar contracts. We're not even reclusive salary cap world curious about is twenty twenty always seemed to be like you mentioned your summer a possible revival wasn't then. Okay. It wasn't then. But what their need when I'm asking retrospect, you take the long view because. Of that. Because now twenty twenty might be pushed back, I think you would agree to twenty twenty one in his salary cap world because of these other 2017 contra we weren't thinking of room after we just got. This lost Durant in in Hebert. At that time, we weren't thinking of twenty twenty one as being earth thinking of making sure we had that thirty in the Levin team come back, and I thought, and we thought that the contracts that we gave at one time that they were not nominal contracts. But they were long term contracts that also contracts that that were well worth while what those guys were performing at. So you know, that's on me. You can put that all over me because I'm the one that made the deal at midnight, and we didn't land Hayward. And when he left I didn't want the other guys be on somebody else's team somewhere else, you know. And which would have been even worse scenario big strong armed really by the nets on Tyler Johnson. That's a place where they started losing pieces. I think that sounds interesting for a couple of reasons one Riley bared his teeth. And then realized while he was talking. These are my mistake. And so he just sort of went from teeth bared to something else. But he's also right? They don't have the John wall contract on the books the contracts. They have are there. They're not prohibitive. They're just enough of them on the ledger that you can't do anything else right now. And so I I can see them both being right in that circumstance. But Riley hasn't been someone who's moved around the failures has even in the inventory where he's pissed off their you hear him at the end say, hey, that's on me. We didn't get Hayward and Durant. That's my job. Yeah. Paranoia getting strong arm though, by the Brooklyn nets who at the time. Moore certainly what they are now and getting strong-armed by Dion waiters and James Johnson's agent. He had a two year agreement in place with waiters and James Johnson. Had Gordon Hayward signed here, and then Gordon Hayward going, and he's like I can't lose this thirty and eleven team which was totally for real. And I have to lock these guys into four year deals because I don't want them. But that was mistake know what? It's very easy. Michael all of us. It's very easy for all of us to say. How could you get snowed by the thirty and eleven but we did months of shows about Hasan's not Amax player is he and then we just saw. Yeah. Dallas was going to make him a max player. And so what do they do because I'm telling you if they've lost Assan after all that he would have gotten killed for that. He would have gotten killed for losing Hassan to the Dallas Mavericks over money. The Pat Reilly I know doesn't care if we kill him. He doesn't make moves for the cosmetic. Oh, so I don't get killed about let him walk. And no. But that's where you can make the accusation of game passing by because we none of us all that on Whiteside would be something of a dinosaur in the modern age who saw that coming to a means point those, and I think the supplements it like for Pat Riley to not have he would agree. He has an ego. Right. There's a certain tomorrow for sure when it comes. He will shall not be named and Tyler Johnson and Dion waiters and James Johnson. That's where the ego ends. No, no, no. I'm not good enough to find. Another one of these. I can't let them go. I've got a hold onto these trinkets. He shall not be named was the guy that we talked about the time. Like you said whether he was worth it or not. And we knew this is not like, hey, they pay to dude. And then all of a sudden afterward. He just turns into a mopey guy. We knew it before he got paid. He was acting like that when he was on minimum. If you guys remember, I said, this is how the guy acts before you pay them. What do you think is gonna happen? After you pay me think he's all of a sudden all those problems go away. They don't and I recognize that fines and eventual softening in that like, I retouched on certain insecurity because every single move. This franchise has made over the last couple of years has been motivated financially to get them out from underneath these bad contracts. And I recalled them out on it. And he's like Europe says with money. I'm obsessed with money. We just waved. Rodney mcgruder who was picked up by team. They can't even use them in the playoffs because he's so good because the owner didn't wanna pay the luxury tax really good at avoid in attacks. Though. I men I hope to God. And the Ellsberg has a clause in his contract that gives him a cut. Of whatever money. He saved them by getting them under the tax because that guy's a genius. I still wanna know Benadryl. What they did to make him take less money to walk away. That's still a mystery of never had answered they said have been ordering way they do with their three Carter. Well, that was different agent. Messed that one up, but they got out from under the Anthony Carter contract somehow they're trying to work the same stuff because he will on that be named cannot doubt. Gorn cannot. There's no way he's up there. What is it twenty seven million dollar? His quote was saying that he really wants to play. I'm even though bam on a BI was a better player towards the end of the season. I'm not so sure that some of the motivation there was to try to irk he shall not be to maybe. Wow. And you're asking if he's lost. It would have some cutthroat. Blink right. What's at play? But I mean, why wouldn't it be at play. They they never wanted to give him the max, I know this. They never thought he was a max player. And then they got the Ma. Market dictated it for them. Because they couldn't lose another guy. They were trying to build around Chris by and they couldn't lose another guy. And I as we talked about it. I don't feel like any of us had a definitive conclusion on what they should do. Did you feel like there were a lot of people arguing out there? You know, what you need to do? Let Hasan walk was that happening on the thought was at the very least you can flip this contract if it's a bad contract and to their credit now when that contract has value because in the bizarro MBA bad contracts are getting value towards the tail end of them. And it's a it's sort of inverted. What's the move though? How do they get in the Colli game? Like, how do they do? It is such a mystery that you don't even think you can because you figure he's just going to be a clipper, I mean up until Gordon Hayward. Pat was always getting in the room. And then with the last round free agency in Miami weren't after thought. Well, I mean, they didn't have the wherewithal ago afternoon these guys, but paranoia didn't have sent in the salary cap. And so met with Marcus Aldridge. That's when he was. So riding high that was an interesting meeting actually, just so that you know, that these things are tried people. Try to plan these things Riley knew he wasn't going to get lamarcus Aldridge. He was meeting with lamarcus Aldridge with the possibility that Aldridge would be available again in a couple of years when he money. That's the only reason he was meeting with him. He didn't think he had much of a chance to actually land. Lamarcus Aldridge technology truth brought to you by Geico. Truth. 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Carol Moseley Braun On Bidens Potential VP Pick, Black Biz Owners React To Being Looted

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Carol Moseley Braun On Bidens Potential VP Pick, Black Biz Owners React To Being Looted

"I'm Justin Kauffman in this is reset. Coming up in just a bit too black owned businesses caught up in the looting on Monday morning if this area is not safe, I just don't feel like I should even even consider looking at any other areas in Chicago. But I joe, Biden could announce his running mate any minute now with less than a week until the Democratic National Convention Biden faces, rowing calls to select a woman of color particularly a black woman as VP. Senator Kamala Harris Former Obama national. Security Adviser. Susan Rice and Illinois senator. Tammy Duckworth. Are Among the finalists and he could break the barrier and become the first woman VP in US History Carol Moseley Braun, not thing or two about breaking political barriers. The Illinois Democrat was the first black woman to serve in the US Senate elected back in nineteen ninety two and later serves as the Messenger to New Zealand and Samoa is also the first black senator ever in the Democratic Party and one of the only two African Americans to serve in the Senate in the twentieth century. Ambassador Moseley Braun Welcome back to the program. For having ambassador based on everything that's happening in the country at this moment and based on how Biden's campaign was revived by the black vote in. South. Carolina does he need to pick a black woman as his running mate? My focus is on getting Joe Biden elected president this you know. I I said to others I, volunteer to go to. Golgotha. If necessary, whatever's GonNa take. So whoever takes is GonNa be fine with me but I would obviously prefer an African American woman I think that that would be again the capstone of all the progress we've made is asking Americans in this country and frankly women women are the strongest constituency and that's the that's the group to which he can look for almost universal unanimous support when it comes time for the election, but whatever it takes to get him to win the presidency is my objective in your estimation. Why is it important that the nominee be a woman of color? Joe Biden's candidacy was revived by black women in South Carolina and other places in the country, and so this is like a really loyal constituency and you know Harry Truman's not live statement notwithstanding the fact is loyalty matters and loyalty is an important value that I think Joe Biden embraces and he reflects. So I'm hopeful that out of loyalty Matt Tokenism or anything like that. But just because this, the constituency that has brought him this far, and we'll take him the rest of the way to the presidency. Investor when when you've got to the Senate and you recognize that that you were alone essentially, how how did that work? How did it work for you as a person of color as as a woman, a black woman to interact and begin powerful committee chairs and to be a part of the US Senate. As such a minority. Well, I, tell you a huge learning experience in the I learned a lawful lot. There would number thing that just hadn't expected. That wasn't familiar with the wasn't prepared for not the least of which was that people were more interested in what I looked like as an and what I, what I am as opposed to what I had to say about anything I'll never forget during the debate on. Welfare reform I got up and started making some statements about poverty in the United States and poor people and what it meant and nobody's get past the fact that he was a black woman standing and so it's better to all the stereotypes about welfare women you know the cadillacs etcetera and all of that, and I didn't realize until that very moment that I was the face of a stereotype and so. That was one place where I learned another place where I learned a lot had to do with patriotism black people have been involved with this country and the revolution in this country since the very beginning and what I didn't realize until I got the Senate was my patriotism was being questioned. It's like, how can you question somebody my ancestors fought for this country from the time of the of the. Of the Revolutionary War Macmillan, straight on straighten up to now in every war the men have been involved at least and the women of course is supporting the United States and how can you question my patriotism in all of this but but it was because I guess the assumptions again back to racist assumptions and white supremacists I had not expected those things but I encountered when I got. You know when we think about Women of Color in power. It's changed dramatically when you think to twenty twenty just here in the city of Chicago, you've got the Chicago, mayor? Lori lightfoot you've got Cook County Board President Toni preckwinkle. He got the state's attorney Kim Fox's coming on show a little bit later, all broken barriers of their own. So so where does Chicago Illinois stand when it comes to black women and political power? Well the unfortunate truth is that we are really still the exception I mean, the Illinois is the exception on so many different levels exceptionalism list. This state has distinguished itself as being able to deal with issues of race and gender and better way in the ways that far exceeds what the rest of the country is a fourth or has gotten ready for and so we do have black women a number of positions of political power from the mayor, the Cook County Board President, the Treasurer, the state's attorney I mean just go down the list and I was in the Senate the six years and Back in the nineties. So hopefully, this'll set the pace for the rest of the country and the rest of the country will catch up with us, and we'll begin to get to the point where talent and capacity and ability will mean more than what somebody's gender or what their color looks like, and so again, we're moving past those categories that have served to stifle of capacity stifle talents over the years and moving to the point which I think the country is always wanted to be at is in our in our founding documents where really the content of character and one's ability matters more than anything else. When you look at it there's I think it's twenty three black women serving in Congress right now and that includes Senator Kamala. Harris. But she's only the second lack woman to serve in the Senate. And think about that, and you think about that in twenty twenty talk about how that affects and impacts our country. The fact that there's a lack of diversity in the US Senate. It's race gender and class. When you look at the fact that our policies when people talk about income inequality, the truth is that it's our policy that given rise to such income inequality, a tax laws. Are. against. Poor people in working people and if the tax laws favor people who have lots and lots of money they just do now why is that? If everybody in the room has got lots and lots of money comes from the class of people we have lots and lots of money. They're not gonNA care about the guy who goes to work every day and Could barely scrape together enough to pay his rent and buy food for families. It just doesn't occur to them and you see a lot of that frankly in this debate going on now up stimulus you've got multibillionaires they're saying why should somebody gets six hundred dollars a week? You know seriously what is wrong with you? You're going to be good somebody hundred dollars. Additional employment. When you you know you spend that on, you know on toilet paper. I think I think back to that time in the nineties and I, think about your time serving the country I also think too now twenty twenty, and of course, this is all surrounding. This does almost this idea that the presumptive nominee. Joe Biden needs to pick a woman of color. How far have we come from from the time in nineteen ninety two to what you're seeing in two thousand twenty. Well that's why it such a good news story because it really is we've come a long long way my mother could not have imagined. Conversation about a black woman on the Democratic ticket for vice president and just would have been incomprehensible to her and quite frankly not as dubbing. We can imagine we're having the right now and frankly with some people saying that it's not it's not enough where the where the black female president. So. So we really have come a long way i. think in all of these conversations I think the LGBTQ conversation is part of that so whether it's gender or race or sexuality, I think the country has moved in a very positive direction. Obviously, we have our issues we got a real problem. Not, the least of which is the current president wants to drag us back into the seventeenth century eighteenth century whatever. But the point is I think we really do we are moving in the right direction. That's a good sign i. think that's something that every American can and should celebrate. That's former US senator and Ambassador Carol Moseley Braun. Luder stealing for big names like Nike or Louis Vuitton. Don't necessarily elicit sympathy but it wasn't all corporations that were hit Monday morning take Chicago O'hare import on six seventy four North Dearborn street the black owned the black owned salon has been a staple in the heart of the Gold Coast for more than twenty years. We'll talk to the owner and just a few minutes a couple of streets away on Michigan Avenue Juve rejuvenation studio got looted as well. Just two months after setting up shop Florence Hardy is the owner of Rajiv Rejuvenation Florence welcome to the program. Thank you for having me so tell me what happened to your business I just got in today. So I was just able to survey the damage. It just turns out that we got a lot of glass broken people came in and looked around, but we didn't get a lot of inventory taken. So we're little lucky in that they but we're still cleaning up glass everywhere. Some of our fixtures are during about but not a lot of things taken for you. The idea of setting up shop at the at the shops of northbridge that's an expensive proposition. Those are those are high end retail spots along that space and with the pandemic it's been a tough slog to get people into that space into that area. How how difficult is it to now face this on top of everything else that's happened in the last couple of months. It has been really hard. You Know Art Market is office workers and travelers, and right now neither audiences are really downtown but we were starting to gain momentum. We had some classes that were getting started. We were filling up our schedule. We started building this community of people who were really excited about wellness being available to them, and now it seems like we have to start over. When you watching this like like many chicagoans on Monday morning what was your response? When you saw 'cause I saw the footage of people, breaking windows and bringing stuff out of the shops northbridge. What was your response when he saw that? I was devastated I was at a loss of words. My husband had to console me. I just couldn't believe that this was happening in the place where I have tried to grow my business. So it was. It was devastating. For, lack of better word I could not describe the feeling other than that. When you? Think about what you have to do to recover and and. Actually. Get back up and up to speed and start backup is daunting to you or do you feel like you're you're protected because of insurance other things like that Yeah, I, don't I don't feel protected because of assurance 'cause that's another battle in and of itself I think it is a daunting. Or because I just did it, you know and now I'm starting over and doing it and it's not just my store but all the other stores that were hit when you're in a mall like this, you really rely on other stores to bring in traffic. So with them damaged in the mall closed for the foreseeable future I don't know what I'm GonNa do in the meantime. Florence, hardy is the owner of retrieve rejuvenation sweets, Lawrence. Thanks so much for joining US appreciate it. Thank you so much. Let's turn to China McNeil WHO's celebrity stylist and the owner of Joe Hair imports up at six seventy, four North Dearborn Street, China welcome to reset. Thank you for having me Hauer things tell me about the store. Well, the store was completely empty the inventory we were just watching the video footage of the lives that came into our store. So it seems as though the mood and the people that were doing this. They were just literally taking an opportunity to come in and just clean us out. So they actually hit all the stores along our row. So we're on a row called grammercy row where there are other nail salons, barbershops that waxing places, and so they literally took items from one store to the next break, and so for our store we were hit pretty bad. They emptied out all of our inventory. We are a supplier of hair. Good. Or different personalities and for local people in the area, and so they pretty much emptied everything. So we have no inventory less trying to when you hear people who who might. Say You well, you know there's so much. There's insurance on the MAG mile and these big big boxes are going to be recover Nike or Disney or best by whenever. And they loop you in a group you into that? How does that? Make you feel? Well and actually does not make me feel. Really good about that because the reason being is that I am a small business on the MAG mile though the tenets of to a small business are quite different than they are for large larger stores. So those larger stores that are on the MAG mile they have more of a presence and their presence is usually protected in a greater way where the. Smaller businesses. We don't have that same bounceback. Yes. We may have the advantages of having the area police a little bit more but the advantages are totally not balanced or equal when you when you just look at it, what you have to do to rebuild asked the same question of Florence is it daunting to think about what you have to do to to rebuild and re? Reopen Your Business. Yes, they're very daunting because of. The things that I need to rebuild will take time because they were all customized. So all of the things were customized. And so two V able to rebuild. It is a daunting task. It's going to take proper planning it's going to take resources. So there are a lot of things that will factor in to being able to restore my business and being able to come back the way that we were before or if we will be at all I was going to say, do you think about relocating or are you still feel confident about being in the Gold Coast? I'm still uncertain about the city of Chicago it's not that I would feel. Comfortable, relocating because I had already relocated from the south side of Chicago years ago and relocated to go coast thinking, it would be a safer environment. So at this point, if this area is not safe I, just don't feel like, I. Should even even consider looking at any other air isn't Chicago China, McNeil's a celebrity stylist and the owner of Chicago hair imports six, seventy, four, north Dearborn was looted this Monday morning China. McNeil thanks so much for joining us telling US your story. Appreciate it. Very. Much. And that's Today's reset for real conversations with real people working make Chicago the best it can be join us here every day or tune into resets broadcast eleven to one Monday through. Friday I'm Justin Kauffman. Thanks for listening. We'll catch you right here tomorrow.

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Best Of: Stan Van Gundy

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Best Of: Stan Van Gundy

"Bedale podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card or four percent cashback on dining entertainment two percent at grocery stores. One percents on all purchases. What's in your wallet? DC's the base of the Dan lebatardshow with this two got spot Cass. We're all the little bit happier around here when STAN van Gundy's jovial curmudgeon self makes an appearance want to establish during these NBA play-offs, the credentials of this Van Gundy, basketball royalty. Maybe could have had the warriors job didn't have the vision for chose the pistons. Instead and now works next to us on Thursdays shows the power Steve Kirk could've been Luke Walton. Instead. Yeah. Chose power money a good relationship with a good owner. And it was a horrific decision regardless. We will get his playoff analysis. We morning stay. We will get a good morning. Yeah. That was a great intro. Appreciate it. All right. Well, I want to get into basketball stuff with you. And we certainly will over time. But corporate Michael here has told me that tickets are on sale and a half to interrupt what we're doing. And frankly, I'm citing more and more with Michael every. Day because our fans have gotten real entitled telling us that you know, the show has jumped the shark, and and we're going out to expand it and now corporate Michael's initiative here is something we got to support before we get to the content. I am wearing a collared shirt for the second time in three days all part of getting behind Michael and the GI. All right. I mean, that's what I'm doing. I this is going to be a great event I'm serious because we are doing a live show for a live audience that can only be heard at a theater in New York City. This is exciting. I am going to do weekend observations ally. Grammercy Grammercy theater of the mind at Grammercy on may eighteenth. Tickets are available right now. Go to university dot com slash laboratory nineteen this is the first of what we hope or many events around the country. So if you're in the northeast if your train ride away from New York, if you're a fan of us that listens in New York City, please come out grab some tickets. It's going to be really cool event. There's a meet and greet include. In your ticket price. We're going to have a really fun evening. And a lot of surprises are in store. We have a lot of that have already RSVP to this event. It's not just an in Stu so universe dot com slash Lebed tarde nineteen and basically tonight to party with us in New York is what it is. And so that's the sales pitch back to our previous coverage unless gambles got something important now I'm wondering since you're going to Broadway like we eligible for Tony. Or what are we doing? Can we sing? That's a good question. I am happy that you mentioned that because while most radio shows that do live events they just do their normal show. People awkwardly watched them we're trying to do that. We're trying to do an original stage production with a theater experience in mind Broadway show, I may juggle. The Tony excited. Okay. But the appeal is that you could do shots with stugatz afterwards. That's what the real appeal is the rest of the stuff is just going to be, you know, us entertaining ourselves. And if that wasn't enough guys Paul find Bach it and the magic create a content will also be making the trip Hussein those because I'm sorry. That's not going in my terrier. Awards second gonna put it in my carry on somebody to at the Instagram story when gets confiscated, and I can't get there. You're going to do a proudly. That's right. I'll take I am promising to take the fine about. The money. That's in the fine. Sustain Van Gundy is the only person at this network. Okay. And I want this stated on the front end right now. He's the only one as you see all of ESPN's experts experts picked the Tampa Bay Lightning to win that series through. God's your whole all of the experts. There's only one guy there's everybody all over the network telling you, oh, the warriors this. I'm not sure about their infighting. But no one saying it flatly at the network. The warriors are going to lose. Yeah. No one saying it STAN has been saying he's been saying it for a while. Now I disagree with him. But STAN has been the guy saying listen something's not right here. And I think there are better teams in the east, and perhaps the team out was that might be better than the war. What did you see in game two because I expect the warriors as everyone does to win that series. I don't think you don't expect the clippers to win that series. Do you stand? No, no, not even close that'll be that might be the last one. They get probably will. Be the last one they get. And so you saw what in game two that that would echo what you've said for a while that you can believe this team will just turn it on when it matters but bad practice habits for a season show up. Layton games yet. Look, I don't want to give away too much because my nuggets today are on the warriors. But I will say I don't I think what you see in game two in we've seen throughout the year is they don't really have the ability to just turn it on and off whenever they want. You know, they have had some really really bad moments this season. And they have not been able to flip the switch. I still say the warriors best is better than anyone else's best. But I'm not sure they can summon their best as easily as they think they can Mike Ryan. Or is this Michael Ryan, what is what are you getting via Email here? Are we already took it up date in our we sold out already, please. And it's Michael are we sold out your Michael now. Yeah, he's my you've not heard this part of the g. He's gone big time on us global expansion initiative. Sounds like Dan going to a Chinese buffet. But it's actually our show. Then you better muffled that laughter. Big boy, you you'd better a good one though that was really good. I liked that. So let's do the nuggets. Let's do right now. I don't wanna wait anymore right now. Let's the early we've ever done the number earliest wanna please. Because I think they just sold us out in four minutes. Let's go head now time for stamping Gundy's top NBA nuggets owning Thursday show. The thingy. It took fifteen years for this show to sell out and today, it took the last four minutes that is official this show has officially sold out. Even if we haven't sold on a ticket. It sounds like we broke the browse Tony award collision Gore's, so STAN van Gundy's nuggets are warriors themes. So the third best nugget from STAN Van Gundy is the clippers is store comeback victory in game. To continue continued. The warriors puzzling struggles at home this year. The warriors lost six home games by twenty or more points more than the past fourteen NBA champions combined. No NBA champion has ever lost more than two regular season home games by twenty or more points. Oh, hey, Rohan around the big stuff early to better than that stand. The second. Best nugget is. Demarcus cousins unfortunate injury was the latest example of mounting injuries, and miss games that have to be affecting the warriors chemistry and rhythm. The three starters who have been the warriors core. Curry Thompson in green and their to reliable subsequent doll in Livingston missed only seven seventy one games in the first three years of this five-year run in average of four point seven games per player per year over the past two seasons. Those same five players have missed on average three times as many games almost fifteen games a year per player. His stuff with backs. The only person that does network saying the warriors will lose. Because of all this stuff is STAN Van Gundy. Now, he's throwing facts in your face with the nuggets and the best nugget of the week is what is up with Kevin Durant's reluctance to shoot the ball. This is now been going on for a month to rant took only. Eight shots in game two the sixth time in his last fourteen regular season in playoff games, he has had single digit shout attempts. That is the exact same number of times. He had taken fewer than ten shots in his previous two hundred thirty two games with the warriors. Dan is he checked out? Like is that what that is that? I don't know. It is really really strange. I mean, this is a guy who you know on the year. He's average in. He averaged eighteen point eight almost nineteen shot attempts to game and over the last twelve regular season games in the first two playoff games. The average is twelve shots a game. I mean, he's just not even a tempting to do much of anything right now. I have no idea the reason behind it. But it is puzzling. And they need Kevin Durant to be a lot better than he's been over the last month if they're going to repeat. It's happening, Dan. What's happening K D to the Knicks? I mean, it seems like it, it seems it's seems it's he sixty minutes talks to them and the only news item that he has PIN used was given Durant sitting there sulking not wanting to be doing the interview. He just said it was totally spaced out during the interview. And and stand a superstar taking that few shots when this surrounds them that that's the stuff that becomes suspicious right fill. It does. I mean, he just wonder if he like you said if he's mentally sorta checked out, and he's just writing out the string here that doesn't jibe with anything that we've seen with Kevin Durant before even when he was in Oklahoma City, and you know, and probably knew there was a good chance. He was heading out. He didn't play like this. So I don't really know the reason, and I I don't want to lock into say this guy checked out it, but it certainly could be and it's puzzling. For a guy this good, probably the best pure score outside of harden at least in the league. And he's not trying to score. Donlevatar? Why doesn't Bob Costas? Go by Robert because he strikes me as someone who's not a nickname guy. Like, I'm surprised. He's not Robert middle initial cost us whenever he does reports. Can you imagine if he were body cautious? No way. Bob, Costas definitely has group texts. Whereas friends you like Bob AA. What are you doing this weekend? She hates that you only the people that hate him. Call him, Bobby? Stugatz. I can't even say his middle name is so fancy what is this middle name and Robert Quinlan Costas. All exactly why goes. Hugh, hopper q Costas. Vob Q Kostas doesn't that the group chatter? Calling him. Bobby Q V R Quinlan costs is live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Guests on the Dan lebatardshow appear via the shell Pennzoil performance line. Get triple actually protection for optimal engine performance would shelve e powered nitro plus premium gasoline. Here's your sports center update Stanley Cup playoff. I ram. Bruins beat the Maple Leafs. Six to four to tie the series at two games apiece stars defeat the predators. Five to one to split that series at two games. The avalanche snuck past the flames three two in overtime to take a three one series lead game four tonight between the capitals and the hurricanes fair game fives with the blues taking on the jets and the Golden Knights looking to eliminate the San Jose Sharks. At finally, John sina is in talks to star in James Gunn's upcoming suicide squad reboot. For all the latest headlines and information, tune into sports center on ESPN radio all throughout the day. He's had an uncommonly successful acting career has he not like in terms of athletes who go into the movies is Jim Brown, the best of them that that actually rock the rock. Thank you. Yes. Yes. But he was a collegiate athlete. The the rock was not a professional athlete was a professional wrestler. But to go. Okay. Fair enough you want from the four majors or something like that. It's real. And I know I'm just looking for more that I'm actually asking for information on John seen like how good is acting career Ben because he keeps getting part that's a big time role. He's doing some of the comedy stuff. And he's following the template laid before him by the rock doing this. When he's a little older in age becoming the action star. That's displayed some comedy chops were the van Gundy's kids. Wrestling fans stand. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. But I mean it was way before this stuff. I mean, I I grew up I'm old now. So I grew up with the haystack Calhoun and Kenji Shibuya, and you know, Mr. Saito. Little bit racist back then with the restaurants. It's only ration-, but but the wrestling itself. Yeah, we grew up with what was the most racist. Like, I thought it was. Well, let me on the Japanese guys. I mean, you know, we're all. Okay. Johnny on that one of my fortunes so fortunate. Junkyard dog. A blue question whitewashing or triple I batter. Here's the blue. Its success is going to Michael's head. I'll get to the content in a second. But it's going to his head. And and sometimes the magic creative content serves him, and he just sold out our show, he sold the show out literally and sold our soul, and it happened very quickly here. And now the fans are mad at us. Okay. And I'll get to that in a second. Also, get a fan despite being mad at us willing to pay seventeen hundred dollars to get them to come to his wedding. Because evidently, you guys will just give us money. Even when we don't want it because we don't know just sold out and sold out for fifty dollars. What's the question? Seventeen hundred American dollars who is the most famous person you have ever met who was the most famous person you have ever met man begging me for that. Michael Jordan story in China. It's a pretty good one that is against Michael, Jordan. Then. George r r Martin. I mean, that's pretty good right now pretty good, Dan. How about you would be the most famous person you've ever had in your company, Barack Obama home? And I mean, Jack white. They didn't got ended who's winning this summer's does Barack Obama beat Michael Jordan. I don't even know does he cues? Q's met, Michael Jordan too. So. Pocket with Michael Jordan. Nava? Did you go to China with Michael Jordan? I did not know I didn't go to chance back. Well, actually, I have been to China. But not with Michael Jordan, probably Mr. Petar for me. That's the president of the company. Thank you, my so Billy I want to get into. This was a blatant suck up. Right. These eight. He is running afoul of everyone. Here it stand was here. I by the way, the relationship between STAN and Mike has been tense forever. Right stand. Like you guys. He he he disrespects. You know, gets you don't like it does do that. And then I, you know. And then I disrespected Baker Mayfield is his God his icon. So yeah, we've had our moment. Disrespected him by denying that. He had the goods dude any proved you wrong by setting a passing touchdown record for rookie. Despite not starting all six and Louis Riddick says the Browns are going to win eleven games this season. Good. I thought you were going to fall for the photo. Shop sixteen no Photoshop that. Big cap it out there. Eleven games. So the spring into action. Thank you for all was protecting me to our fans who are upset right now. We will get to this. Kevin Durant stuff in a second. Okay. Our apologies. I'm going to be as transparent about this is honest and vulnerable about this is I can okay. We are very proud that. You support is the way you do. We cannot believe that you do. So honestly because we don't know what we just sold out. We just told you we were coming to New York, and you've you gave us fifty dollars. I mean as yelling he's yelling back there that how could you guys get fifty dollars? You didn't even tell people what it was. And here's the only people who are upset. I can't get tickets. I can't give you my fifty dollars for this thing. I don't know what it is. I can't give you. So now, they're mad at us. Because they think we're laughing at them. We are not laughing at him. We did not expect any of that to happen. It was totally vulnerable. We don't know what we're doing. We make it proof every day that were stumbling around and it was hugely vulnerable. So you supporting it makes us feel. Hugely supported we didn't mean to upset all of you people who were trying to give us fifty dollars. Even though we didn't tell you what the hell it was. But Stu gods has spent the entire damn break. My figuring out how now because he's just got access to this. How does he get people to just pay fifty dollars to sit at a table and drink with him? And how does he make it just go through like a turnstile where he could just sit there having drinks fifty dollars a shot while there's still hope I off because if you find me in these surrounding area before the event, those fifty dollar tickets, I will have them on me. It will cost you one hundred and fifty dollars. But I will have the, mommy. So there's still hope there's still a chance, but people are offering me two hundred dollars just to do a shot with me. That's all they want to do is just to shot with me. And I have to take that money. It's an. Dollars you sold only fifty dollars the ability to be near Stu gods. Drinking the army was just going bankrupt. Second mortgages. Everyone in the army as a second mortgage. Now. Now, Michael you said that they're going to be VIP experiences to the people have to pay extra for those VIP experience. It was a flat rate us everything is inclusive. Everything we don't know that it is everyone's VIP. So fifty dollars covers everything. Yeah. You get the the meet-and-greet, and we will have some special edition merch specially made for that. That doesn't come with. You're going to have to pay extra now that we know what the smart is. How can everyone be VIP because we're gonna treat them all like, we only sold five hundred tickets and the rest of the people get left out. Whoa. Don't poop who've only five hundred this is a big time venue in New York City. It's a famous venue the grammars when I was there touring the venue deciding whether or not we should do this. This is one all this executive stuff started happening right there. I was there touring Judd appetite was playing the Gramercy theatre. I'm not sure if he sold it out in two minutes like we did. Show today, or well, here's the thing. No, I understand that this has been totally self absorbed. But now, I'm going to get even more self absorbed as it relates to you Billy in keeping with this thing. That's happened around the show that none of us expected fifteen years ago, if we're being totally honest, none of us any of this. You just got offered by a guy who keeps upping his price seventeen hundred dollars in gift cards to go to your wedding. Now, you think about that for a second. Who who is that person? Why is that happening and how high is that person going to go because I heard you talking to Mike? What do I do? I don't know what to do and Michael's response. Was you take it what you do on the day of love is you sell out there too. That was that was off the record. I said you tell them chicken or beef. But on the record there's a compliance video on this very. The value is over seventy dollars Iressa. Well, here's my video for compliance. You tell them seventeen hundred dollars straight cash, and he's in a guy that's out thinking about renewing my vows of that. It's a strange situation because I keep getting sent messages, and it started at something like five hundred dollars. And then it was even explained to me how it was going to be broken down and gift cards. It's going to be twenty dollars gift card fifty dollars gift card, and honestly, I don't know who has access to all these gift cards. We just kind of suspicious to begin with. But I haven't responded once at about once every three or four days, I get a new offer. And every time it's the final offer. And every offer is so much more than the last. And I think now we're by up to seventeen hundred dollars. No, plus one I don't even remember what the last thing was I don't know what to tell this person you better talk cash better talk to your fiance. No, listen to me gift cards are a funny game though because these could be empty gift cards. You know, what I mean, he just hands me Neville filled with gift cards with no. That he took from public on the poll gift you can give cards be a funny game. Still wants a new boat time for some more ads is right about that. Then you gotta check you get a scan the gift card to make sure that his actually money on the gift card. Don't ask me. Why? No so much about this. I heard it from Fred I want you to look at how look look at Michael he's not even paying attention to the show anymore. He's just taking a victory lap. All around the building through Email. He's just getting patted on the back. He's loving it. He has had this reinforced. Now, his big executive venture that went to New York to put together this thing that none of us know what it is just sold out in two minutes. Look at him. Just I'd like to have our producer bag. I would too. He's so the official timekeeper of the NBA is also the official timekeeper obstacle Keller. Climbing man is I'm a visa. A couple of steps from Petar cash. More of the Dan libertas show with stugatz. Ten to one eastern on ESPN radio and ESPN news sa- if you're like me on organized don't plan things the last minute you need tickets to a big game or concert. You don't think about until the day off? 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They once tonight man, Sixers take it on the nets nuggets battle the Spurs and the warriors take on the clippers. And finally Netflix now has one hundred and forty eight point nine million total paying subscribers investors are watching closely to see how Netflix subscriber base response to new streaming services expected to inundate the market later this year, Disney be best company in the world recently unveiled Disney, plus which will feature thousands of film and TV titles on the company's library as well as the regionals from marvel Pixar and Lucasfilm. It is priced its service at the ridiculously low price of six ninety nine a month, which is two dollars less than Netflix is cheapest plan. Also featured on Disney plus the mandatory in a new live action stalwart TV series executive produced by John Farrell between. Call weather's Giancarlo Esposito and Pedro, PASCAL only. Six ninety nine a month guys blown credible. For all the latest headlines information, tune in the sports center on ESPN radio all throughout the day. That soda what just happened? Just crank open a diago. Did you just open a diet soda their stand? Is that what just happened a Fresca, actually? Oh my God. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on a second. I did not even know that they were still making Fresca. Absolutely. They are in your drinks are old. It was a non when he was a tag on me. Here will they don't they don't have the original today, your Mally, I do, but this is actually the peach citrus, not bad not bad guys helped me out with something because I might be totally out of touch. I did not think that Fresca was thing since nineteen seventy seven am. I wrong is fresco giant fits Caddyshack. Obviously, you're wrong stages opened one, I know, but I don't know where he got it felt like if he had opened a tab. I got it out of my refrigerator in their own by Coca Cola stand. Can we hear sip now? Sure, absolutely. There you go. All right. Chris. -freshing very refreshing walk into the ocean. Pin? You guys were talking over to. But what kind of contract I've heard of? I've heard about this, dude. Like AS MR like people really really like these sounds. There's a whole new album Billy eyelashes album that like ASM or people just listened to because it has all these sounds that get some, you know, going I'm gonna go get a can I'll I'll show you how to take a sip in here. Due to the ocean. Okay. I'll tell you what you know, what let's wait for that. They've come back at the end of this segment. And but if it's not if there is not a payoff. Okay. You're going into the I'm just telling you that you're going to walk straight into the ocean. It's right out there. Could there be a payoff? They'll he is saying. Pat idea listening. It's not merely a horrific idea. I'm trying to do a radio show here with STAN Van Gundy basketball royalty during the NBA playoffs after a partnership with ESPN that contractually obligates all of us to talk all NBA all the time. Even when the games are not interesting at all. And in the middle of that he decided to ask the respected Van Gundy. Name lemme hear you take a sip like if he was some sort of trained monkey this guy ran the pistons let me and stands like sure I'll do that. And then the both of them both the, oh, I think that's good radio. He also Stephen gets. I didn't wanna say it was good radio. I'm on here. Every week. I know this isn't good radio. It's if Steven is way, he also might run LeBron's team in Space Jam to. Are you aware of that? Stan, no. It was not. That's a good move right there. Also, clunky all of it. Yes. Thank you. I don't think it was a bad idea by Chris to try to get stand to take a sip because the way that he opened that can it was beautiful. What was loud, right because it distracted all of us. First of all stand your professional broadcaster now. Okay. You got that sound ready for me? My I had the sound of him opening scant. Okay. So now stand you know, we we love having around here. We love being able to not talk basketball with during the NBA playoffs. And and your great gracious enough to do this with us. But you've got some raw things that happened to you as a radio personality and starting a segment with this sound STAN it begs a lot of questions we were all wondering what the hell happened. Yeah. Actually, I didn't realize we were on yet. I thought I thought I'd beaten. Opening there? So yeah, I apologize. All right. Hold on. I got a lot to learn here. All right. Well, not now in more ways one evidently because now what we've got here is we've got swaggering Chris, Cody for those of you who do not know, Chris, Cody, somehow is the best athlete among us. It's a little hard to fathom all things considered especially when he takes off his hat, but he is defeated everybody at everything here because the rest of us, there's such poor athlete. Now, he can be a bit of an oath, and he can be a bit terrible at radio, and he just asked the respected Van Gundy. Take a sip for him in the middle of our segment, like father, like son. And so he has promised ups that that was stand van Gundy's failure. That was not a terrible idea. Poorly executed that was Billy's. If let's we have any questions. We should lay out though, because Chris challenge that you can actually do this well on the radio and don't poo poo ASMAR. I just want to know what the peyot is a SM are by. So there are people that get off on sounds. Okay. So we all have to be super quiet, and you could hear this sip and the portion of our audience will really enjoy it. Okay. What is a SM? Jeff Goldblum has made an empire off of this. I think he put out an entire ASM ASMAR album. But what is the acronym? Michael. What is a SEM? Okay. It's all just a bunch of sounds like you take a scrubber to a pan or you do this like everybody be quiet for a second. I'm going to scratch my beard and a large portion of the audience. It's going to be very turned on by it. What does it stay? Be quiet. Stan I keep getting stuck on the acronym. And just listen to the sound and tell us if you're turned on. Okay, please stop silence. Everybody. Ooh, sop. No. No. No, no. Like, get his work. Give it a good five seconds. Okay. Everybody just lay out. Sold-out Grammercy in two minutes. All right. So here's the payoff is everyone ready because Chris just to set it up properly. You've swaggered back in here. Like, you are totally convinced that this segment is going to end with you jumping off the pommel horse and nailing the dismount to the segment with a sipping sound you're going to hear my sip. And you're going to say, wow, that's a cool sound. All right. Let's see here. Everybody. Are you ready? We're close my eyes. All right. All right. So I got open the can okay. The most anger ever been. I don't get angry. I know you never been angry round here. That's true. That. I wanna do but hold on. At the rate of spoke of content is undefeated, and we have to get out of the way. What do you tell a telemarketer? What do you tell telemarketer? Ooh, spam. Call a robo-call that you don't want any part of answering view play. Nice. Do you play? Nice. Or do you just hang up or do you say something put me on your do not call this stand? What about you? I don't answer numbers unless I know who's calling stack. I don't answer could actually right genie buses number, right? Well, yeah. I mean, of course. So the next coach of the Lakers. Can you break some news here have the Lakers reached out to stand in Gundy? Now that they have a coaching vacancy. No, they have not yet. Anyway. All right. You ready Chris here we go. So Chris, what are you promising us? What are you promising us that you're going to end this segment with a sipping sound that all of us find glorious it will be a delightful sound and you'll say, wow, you were right because you're constantly constantly surprising us, you are you are swaggering right now and you always reach past expectations. So let's do this right now because we built it up. This is all for the A S M or crowd. Okay. Everybody quietly out a little bit. And let's get this going. Nails. Good, man. Kofi with my coli half an hour ago. Livered Reuven wrong again. Thank you, Chris. It's why you're rising corporate executive. That's what you just did with the money is in San Van Gundy for basketball, analogy and have a great by weekly Christopher. That's how quickly they've changed around here. You're going to the ocean. A couple of minutes ago started here climbing executive as we said Michael sold out in two minutes donlevatar and finally the Carolina Panthers have a sommelier on staff. Wine expert, Smalley, you wanna try one more time. No still guts which out again, a little can I hear it. Again, the ARA silent. It's French French. And finally the Carolina Panthers. Have as Somalian staff is not a Samal. That is not a Somali is not a Somali, Mike. Let me hear it ago Smalley smoke. Finally, the Carolina Panthers have a small lay on staff. Perfect live at our show with a Stu gods on ESPN radio gear mo- put it on the poll. Please do we all really have to stop underestimating. Chris cody. Because every damn time. He swaggers into a situation telling us, he's good at something. He's the anti got. He's actually good at. Actually, you know, what though I think Amine might have taken over Stu gods. His mantle of thinking he's good things and not being good at them. Does that we've diagnosed with dunning Kruger? Have you heard of this stand like delusional thoughts of being better than you? Actually. Are. I have not heard that the name of it. No. But I've certainly run into a lot of people. Name the name the Mario Chalmers. Well, you know, what though that he rational confidence that athletes have often serves them. Well. It's not I mean well. No. Fan of you seen the video of a mean failing in American ninja warrior. It is a clip that has gone viral. I mean, weren't you telling me the other day that your shame was the highest viewed thing in American nj history. All the NBC executives were showering with love and praise. And I couldn't understand why the PR guy told me said that was the most watched clip in American enjoy history. Who's winning now? Like you thought global expanse hold on? I mean, explain this part to me though, you got different treatment both times you've got different treatment. Explain to the people how American in Joe warrior treated, you the first time that you went there. And then after the way you realize that they had been the most viewed clip is because the treatment changed around. You. Did it not right. The first time we did it. We did it here. Miami, the whole show did it and Bill you remember this. The director comes up to us right before we're about to run and he gives us his quote unquote pep talk and the pep talk was all right. We're trying to make a TV show his own bleep this up except he didn't bleep it. Right. And then he said tell us about this thing looks easy right wrong. It's a lot harder than it looks and everything he said was just so nerve racking. And we looked at Dana's a, Dan, man. I gotta tell you. I wasn't feeling that confidence to begin with this guy really shot my confidence and Dan solutions was to call to beckon not call to beckon for the director to come back. This man who just all these very busy. He was a drill. Disrespected you that way? I mean, that's what I didn't like. Yeah. But you didn't make things better by saying come hither. Yes. The guy's really feel alone confidence. Could you give them some words of inspiration? And then the guy starts at the end. No, no, it's not that bad. But but seriously try to TV show here in China splash too much water when you fall. Exactly what you said. He essentially said, you know, what don't get bleep wet is what he's lash. Okay, fine. And then what happened that's forty year later. And all right. And so you were the most incompetent contestant in the history of the course, correct? On the first one, you know, not the most income in the history of the court. Alerts. Worrying come on in the history of you guys to watch the show. I'll tell you why. Because none of those competitors on the very first thing fall in a way that make a video that has been seen more times than the one that was seen when you fell failing. There has been no greater failure in American injure warrior history. Then that you to place where people are laughing at you at a clip that surpasses all other clips of that Klay kind of sounds like a very competent. Then if this video is being watched more than any. I'm not some incumbent loser. Who falls into Bolivia, right? I am remembered. I am immoral. And so what happened the next time? You went. We're not talking about that yet because it has an area. The treatment treatment treatment was significantly better. Significantly better. I'm talking the big first of all the first person. I saw was the director same die. He gives me a hug. Yes. This is how it is with the corporate Michaels of the world you give them the success. And then they support you. Oh, man. He gave me a two armed hug. How you doing buddy? Hi. You been have you been training been practicing? We got some new ones for you this year. And then I start walking around and people are walking up to me, very important looking people. They're dressed like Michael is, right. And they're coming up to a mean, we're so glad you're doing this again. And hey, you need anything. Just let us know. And I'm like who's that executive VP of this and that of NBC that's going on here. And then the PR guy tells me your clip, we get alerts every time any of our content. One's not just on the internet. But also on TV innocent, your clip was one of the most watched clips an American enjoy history that avoi- I mean, failing your way to success of you. Help me understand the Kevin Durant. The Kevin Durant. Sound scouts wanted to talk about it a little more. And there wasn't the space for it. Because we had to hear Chris, Cody sip and get a mean in here with American warriors stories play the sound again for new audience here, Mike, Kevin Durant, said Nicol said something about Patrick Beverley that felt to me disrespectful and insulting. While also accurate also felt unnecessary to me. But STAN liked it. Here's the sound. I got a pest seventy up on the Neath me. We'll definitely shoot over the top score. Every time a one on one situation, but we got Joplin and help. And then we got another guy that's sitting on the way to the basketball the basketball the floor. I you know, I could probably make forty three percent of my shots shooting like that. But that's not really gonna do nothing outcome of a game. You know, 'cause we got a nice floor by touching by shooting scoring. So I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get into way the game because you know, I wanna have a little back and forth with Patrick Beverley, the Kevin Durant. Standard seem strange that people are seemingly making a big deal out of out of that soundbite. And Kevin Durant not shooting his much as he has in the regular season or any season that is ever played basketball. But we praise LeBron James he saying getting double team. And it's more basketball decision is the pass the ball out of the double team. They have so many great shooters. It's the same thing we praise LeBron James for well. You know, what he's saying is all all correct? It's when you watch him play the game because he has had twenty of upper -tunities at other spots on the floor. Not down in the post where he was able to create shots and just hasn't done. It. Look, there's there's no denying that over the last month. This guy just has not been looking to score the way he has for the entire rest of his career. Why that is I don't know. He's right on what he says. I mean, he can score on Patrick Beverley anytime. But instead of saying it, let's do it and win the game. So STAN van Gundy's end with us. The NBA is in full action of ESPN has a billion dollar partnership with the NBA. And so we bring you all of the strong NBA coverage for STAN Van Gundy. But before we do that. Billy Gill was wearing me out with sound from a story here in baseball that only has been a story for twenty years. I wonder how stand feels about it, which is the very adult way of problem solving in that sport, you've done something to disrespect me or sportsmanship. I'm going to injure you with baseball, and it's stupid. It's not adults in any way. But all of these cavemen in that culture believes that is the way to problem solve but forgive me for not having the details on Rick Renteria and Ned Joost and Tim Anderson. This has been a story for twenty years like twenty years in the news stream should you throw at this guy? Should you throw at that guy? The unwritten rules of baseball, and we just rinse repeat on who the characters are we do. And I believe for a while. Now that major league baseball does not don't they might say that they wanted to go away. But they don't want it to go away because during the regular season, this is one of the hot topics and when benches clear. And players brawl where always talking about baseball. And it's the only time we're talking about baseball. It's awesome, though. It's fun. All of it. The bat flip pointing to your dugout wearing a chain after a home run throwing at him hitting the but it's not like he was thrown at his head. So it wasn't big deal benches clear. It's fun baseball. Should like this. Right. What is the sound? What is the sound that we have here? Well, you know, Ned ios who's the manager? He knows things where they ask him. What it is that happened? Exactly. And Ned I don't think was exactly forthright in what he thinks happened here. Than what a pitch from them that one. Yeah. Far as. The classic pitch got away from the pitcher isn't that the best? You know, it's going to happen. You know, he's gonna say the fish got away from him. Always Rick rinse RIA, and Joe almost got into it. They got it was typical baseball fight where they get in other spaces separated. But that was cool. See coach is going at might have been if they got into it might be the lamest fight of all time. Well. Nevio rich French coast does indeed look like a white person's aunt, and so he would he would have a fight with Rick Renteria, and Rick Renteria would wipe the floor with Ned. Rick Torri, the same age, Tom Cruise is ever. What have Rick Renteria have to say though, because I want to hear the sound of Rick Renteria who is just a charming charming, man. I believe is the only man outside of my husband outside of my father that my mother has ever cooked for oddly enough, really renter in July allow in July. Rick entry crews will be both fifty seven years of age. I don't wanna tell any more about that story. I want more. I don't wanna talk about my mother sorted past. But recrinching we had this to say Rickman three had this to say when confronted with with a white person aunt in your mind. Inspire is. Homerun? Joy. I think everybody's got again. You know, everybody has that. Those quote unquote unwritten rules everybody has their own. I guess you know, to me wasn't showing them up or showing their pitcher up. He was looking into our dugout. Can you guys going? It looks worse than it is if if we had been in the first based I got and he had just turned into the first base. I don't say we go. What would have been the big deal? You know? Obviously they didn't take kindly to it. They. Retaliatory position. He took his base. You know, but. You go ahead and drill your guy. Well, they don't just leave. It. You've already done your piece. You don't need a million guys out there. You know, chirping Adam as well. So that's that's quite frankly. That's the only thing that took offense to I don't know what my mother ever saw great second. Let's keep playing well. Hold on. I wanna get stands thoughts on on this ridiculous back and forth. But before I do that. I think you all should Google Rick Renteria, and Tom Cruise, and you should just look at it. And I want you to now imagine Rick Renteria starring in mission impossible. Okay. Now, saying what do you make of all of that though you love baseball. And this is stupid. Well, I'll tell you what there's nothing probably in sports more dangerous than throwing a hundred mile an hour fastball at somebody's head or even at their body. I think it's absurd. I sort of understand wanting to retaliate for people being a little bit over celebrate Tori at times, I guess, but but look I mean, you gave up the home run. Why are you upset at the batter? You should be upset at yourself. I mean, you know, you gave up the home run. And now you're mad at him because he hit one don't I don't really get any of that in regardless. It's just too dangerous. I think major league baseball should deal with it much more severely. It's so predictable. I mean when the next guy up gets hit first of all what the hell did he do the next guy up, you know, and he gets hit. I don't I don't buy it. And I think those pitchers that's why I don't like the Deitch. They should all have to come to the plate. You wanna throw it people in the American League? And you never have to stand up there. That's some cowardly crap right there. I love your passion. And it's a great topic. Most dangerous things in sports. One eight six four five six four seven. Also, Billy put it on the poll should the AL do away with the D H, isn't it hockey? Well, he's skating around. I would say it's football. Isn't it isn't a football football? All right. Oh, no. There's a lot. I'm talking about though intentionally intentional acts that people do football's by four more dangerous. Just in the way, they they've played it. But to go up there and you're holding. You know, a projectile in your hands that you're able to throw it a hundred miles an hour with no intent except to try to injure somebody. And this is what bothers me because if major league baseball actually cared, which they don't we wouldn't be talking baseball today. They want this to exist in their game. Otherwise, we wouldn't be talking about a white sock game. Well, what do you make of this then because when to leave and Crabtree or fighting in a darker sport? The NFL comes down comes down very hard on fighting in basketball when your brothers hanging from Lonzo mornings calf basketball cannot have Steven Jackson punching the customers when basketball is blacker in baseball. And hockey, though, everybody fights and throws things at each other. And it's not quite as band. What do you do with that? Yeah. And again, I mean, I understand the hockey thing. But even the fighting is not nearly as dangerous in my opinion as a guy throwing one hundred mile an hour fastball at somebody's head. I mean, I it just you know, that guy turns wrong and catches at in his face. I mean, it's ridiculous. It needs to be stopped. That doesn't mean. I don't think that the hockey stuff should be stopped to. You know, the NBA's done a great job of it. And they've done it because they've been serious about their penalties. And guys don't fight much in the NBA. I mean, you know, they'll at best pushing shove, and there's a lot of Yellen back and forth eliminated. At that that Ryan that riot at the palace was so punitive they eliminated fighting they limited hell, they eliminate physical basketball compared to how it was being played back. Then there's no question about it. You know? And it's exactly what Stu guts is saying major league baseball doesn't care. They like it it creates interest. You know, they'll suspend a guy a pitcher. Oh, miss one. Start a player. Miss a couple of games. And and that's it. They wanna they wanna get on with it. It does create interest. It does get people talking and. You know, it's the any publicity is good publicity line of thinking. Like, I gotta go to commercial. What were you going in my ear? What were you what you should go to Brian has a great topic? Brian you're on ESPN radio. Go head Brian the onside kick unequivocally. Vive most dangerous play all the sports. You have ten guys just running at each other ten yards away one guy. He'd side's job is get the ball. Wow. Brian just kicked your ass. Stan will know because again, it it's tough to get people to understand this. Obviously there's an intent on the onsite kick is to get the ball back. It may be dangerous play when I'm throwing it somebody's head. There's no sporting intent whatsoever. I'm not saying I'm not saying it is the most dangerous sport. I'm not saying that I can't make that clearer. I don't know people may have to listen, I can't make that clear to me the most dangerous intentional act. You know, we're the only design on it is to hurt. Somebody let school my private jets. You ain't going to feel itself. Ovechkin gone to a fight with a guy day, and he slammed his head on the back of the is the guy I thought he would have died if it wasn't wearing a helmet, and you said guy he was nineteen years old never fought nineteen years old and never fought in a veg and hit him with just knock. Him straight out if that happened in the NBA during the playoffs seventeen people would have been arrested. They get come back like a couple of minutes later hockey player concussion protocol. Oh, yeah. He's Ovechkin was his idol growing up. Right. I mean that was that was part of the storage. Imagine that in basketball. So no wouldn't happen. No way. No chance. Well, it could happen. Anything could happen. But it would be dealt with severely donlevatar. Stugatz. Live at our show with this Stu guys on ESPN radio. I want to get to Jason Jackson karaoke in a second. Because I believe, you know, hasn't just gave us some information. That was wildly descriptive of. How it is that Jason Jackson Cariocas for our audience. Who is Jason Jack's I will do that in a second. Thank you. I've been doing this job for a long time without your help. Michael also for the audience Amine is in a karaoke league. Which is just I mean, just the most disturbing thing ever before we get to that though. I just wanna get some information. From Stanford Gundy, the Disney want ESPN want because we're in the middle of the basketball playoffs and their contracts involved and Adam silver, shaking, fist Anthony Davis. Lebron need to play because we've got a partnership, and I think that what's happening with Houston is bad for the sport visually. But regardless of that, STAN yes or no question. The Houston Rockets over the last six weeks have been playing better basketball than anyone. Yeah. That's our argue not only at the offense of end where they've been obviously, really really good. But their defense is is back to where over the last couple months. It's back to where it was a year ago. And and that's gonna make them very difficult. If they're going to be good at both ends floor. You say it's bad for the sport. I understand why you're saying that. But you could also obviously say it's really good for the sport because the one series that everyone's looking forward to here in the postseason is going to happen next next round. And it's the. But I think Milwaukee is caught up now to and Bill you get into one of these situations where you can have some interest later in the season. But these playoff games have been bad. They have these the ones we've seen so far. They haven't retained anybody's interest for any reason whatsoever. I mean, you think that's true. I don't think that's true. I think both of the San Antonio Denver games have been good. I thought Orlando Toronto game. One was good. I thought Boston Indiana. Last night was good game. One Philly big. Glove. In Oklahoma City games on being stand. The Pacers last night, we're winning by twelve points. And all they did was miss all their shots at the end. But it was a great finish by the warriors. Kyrie Irving went on a good run in the third and a good run in the fourth. We had the great blocked by Al Horford that led to Jason Tatum three. I mean, no, I think look the first round is never going to be as good because you know, you've got really good teams playing teams not as good when we get to the second round. I think all four of those series are going to be pretty compelling. I mean, but I think this has been a better than average first round. I would agree with that. Because the series the individual games haven't been great this some of the series are closed, but stay on the Celtics should be having no problem with the Pacers. I mean, they should not be weasing to the finish line needing blocks Horford and big finishes kyri against the team without Victor depot. No, I'm not arguing that. But that doesn't mean that the games haven't been compelling. I think they have been and I think. Portland. Oklahoma City is a is a great series. You know, because you've got Russell Westbrook hasn't won a series since Durant left. So there's some pressure there. At least from the outside Portland's been swept two years in a row in the first round. So there's some pressure there from the outside there, clearly Lillard in Westbrook. Don't like each other. I mean, I think that's a very compelling series. I think San Antonio Denver's compelling series. And I thought the finish the other night by Jamal Murray was unbelievable for a guy to be over eight after three quarters and then come back and do what he did in the fourth making his first mate on a main says all those were terrible shots all of them. Which ones the ones he missed the ones he made or both both. Yeah. I mean, look, here's the thing. You're seeing in a mean can back this up to. You know, all the analytics will tell you, right. You gotta get to the free throw line. You gotta get layups. And you gotta get threes. And we're seeing in all of these series, basically, more and more mid range shots because the defense's are good too. And they're trying to take away the stuff. And so you're seeing more and more pull up jumpers, collide. Leonard had a big game against Orlando and game two in early in the game, especially they were all contested pull up jumpers that. He was putting in the basket. I mean, that's what you can get against these good defensive teams. And so we can say they're bad shots, but you're playing against good defenses. And those are the shot you're going to have to take and make. And you know, that's that's kind of goes back to why Indiana faltered down the stretch last 'cause they don't have that talent who can make those tough shots that the defensive willing to give up. Well, exactly, I mean, they got the big they got too big three's from bug Donna vich late in the game. The one coming off the screen. You know on on like floppy type action. And then they got the switch and he hit the three on Horford two huge ones. But then the next time he got the switch and tried to drive it great great blocked by Horford. I just think four a first round. I actually think we've had pretty compelling games. I, you know, I don't know what your expectations are for the first round. But I think they've been pretty good. And I think the second round series all four of them are going to be great Stanford the audience, what is a floppy type action well shooters down under the rim coming off of baseline screens. You didn't know that you idiot. No, I'm sorry. That was bad on my part. So I mean help me out here. You know, what Jason Jackson looks like everyone here knows what Jason Jackson looks like he's the sideline reporter for the Miami Heat. He was a wondered kind at ESPN anchoring during go underpinned or wonder kid. Okay. What what you don't do? What do you say? We'll go ahead and say, it's no wonder kind tell you what Dan Michael is really like now he's going to tell you. How to say words how to run your show? I mean, he's getting pretty big here. He's just taking we sold the theatre out. I mean is this ever gonna end wait till on Tuesdays. We clean up this whole hord network out business. Okay. All right. This is doing next week. What? How do you say it how how is it under king? How do you say anyone anyone wanna help? But free soon I'm going to be coming on. It's going to be the Michael show with Dan Libertad and stugatz. I got an end. No. I mean, Jason Jackson at ESPN was one of our he was more talented got here faster than just about anybody did was on air and his early twenties. And now he is a Miami fixture on the Miami Heat games. He wears Ascott. He's got a lot of personality. And I want to know details on how he karaoke these. But stand how do you imagine before we get to these details? How do you imagine that Jason Jackson karaoke? Well, he doesn't have a lot of inhibition. So I would think that you know, with great charisma and enthusiasm. And you'd be right. Stan exactly how he doesn't. Tell me in the hallway about how choreographed this old thing is because it's ridiculous. So first of all Jason Jackson, very formidable karaoke player, right? He comes to win every single week. Right. Captain of your squad or he's he's he's a teammate. So so we're good there. But hey, look he's carrying the team. Like last night. I didn't bring it. But he brought it. He likes to go with group songs. He doesn't he doesn't like to go solo. He got some solo songs, but he likes to come up with two or three people and do group songs, for instance, one of his go to everyone knows might go to is Eddie Murphy party all the time. This Jackson's Goto is poison, but he's got someone up there to sing the high notes. Not pointing the band poison the song by Belva devote, right? Why you want to me this is our resident karaoke expert has an everyone knows party. All the time is his Goto, Saul. Why you want to hit me? And that according to me was a good before. That's right. But you're right. He said that he brought it because of the degree of difficulty and the song and any Murphy was so good. And so this is his qualification to critique everyone else's Carrio gate. Why you want to? Again, I explained the rules of Carioca. Do you guys if you want someone who's got a great singing voice goes no cover band? Okay. Go to seriously. A they're seriously such a thing as a karaoke league. Not only is there such a thing coach. But last night we had we had we had a great rookie performance by one ROY Bellamy. Oh. Out there. And you know, you'd say the scene in the stages too big for a rookie. You was a big venue ROY looked at right in the is. It said I got this. He looked like young on. What was ROY song? I did a Lou Rawls it was you'll never find a no love like mine. Oh, you know. What I forgot your voice that Deepa. Yeah. It is. It is. All right. I'd like to hear it at the next segment at some point. I'd like to hear that long. But Chris you go float in the pool. I mean, finish your Jason Jackson story. You'll have been okay. So so basically, so he goes the bell divo- poison. But he's got someone sing the high notes. He's got someone who just there to dance and Jason Jackson is there to wrap the rapid the end of it. But he also has a choreography like they're doing dances clearly practice. So I told Dan in the break, I imagine Jason Jackson in one of those studios with murals on the wall, and he's like leggings and stuff and come on people. Get five six seven. Well, be.

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Life Advice from Oprah Winfrey

Pick the Brain

17:40 min | 1 year ago

Life Advice from Oprah Winfrey

"Welcome to the pick the brain podcast where we pick the brains of the brightest minds in the areas of help self improvement productivity in kicking ass like i am jeremy fisher always alongside my co host aaron aaron today we're gonna hear from oprah a lesson from this one's a good one this this is one where she talks about some things so she's never talked about before which is why why we want to share it on the show and talk about it this is gonna be a two part episode because there's a lot to unpack with oprah yet a so let's go ahead and get started with part one of speech from lee oprah at colorado college i specially appreciate and resonate with your class motto the quote from angela davis which says you have to act as if it's possible to radically transform the world and you have to do that all the time i'm here to tell you that you actually do get to transform the world every day by your actions small steps bleed the biggest accomplishments and i'm here to tell you that your life is in some big break like everybody thinks it is they're waiting on the big break it's actually about taking one significant life transforming step at a time so you can pick a problem literally any problem the list is long 'cause there's gun violence an economic inequality and there's media bias and the homeless need opportunity and be addicted need treatment and the dreamers need protection the prison system needs to be reformed the social safety net needs saving massaging he needs to stop and the truth is you cannot fix everything but what you can do here and now is make a decision because life is about decisions and the decision is that you will user life in service you will be in service to life and you will speak up you will show up you will stand up you will sit in you will volunteer you will vote you will shout out you will help you will lend a hand you offer you're talent end you're kindness how ever you can and you will radically transform what every moment you're in which leads to bigger moments because the truth is success is it's it's a process you could ask anybody body who's been successful i just past and saw walking up the lane here a successful entrepreneur and respiratory danny meyer who sitting back there with his family their their charles's graduating today but here's the truth as steady or anybody who's successful you go to any one of his restaurants shake shack love at union square grammercy tavern and you will be impressed by not only the food which you have to do that if you're a restaurant but by the radical hospitality in service and social services not just about when you're getting serves it's truly everything you know i started my talk show i was just so happy to be on television end i was one day interviewing members of the ku klux klan i thought i was interviewing them so that i could expose their victory out to the world i saw them giving signals to each other in the audience and i thought something's going on here and i realise they were using me they were using the platform for themselves so i said to my producers afterwards i'm not gonna do that anymore than we did a show where someone was embarrassed and it was my fault i was responsible for the embarrassment for some crazy reason we talked a man who is cheating on his wife to come to the show with the woman he was cheating on his wife and he said yes end while they're on live television he says to his wife that his girlfriend is pregnant that happen on my watch and when that happened shortly after i've interviewed the clan inexperienced that i said i'm not gonna do that again again so i started to ask the question how can i use this show to not just be a show but to allow it to be of service to the viewer that question of how do we serve the viewer transform the show and because we ask that question every single day from nineteen eighty nine forward with the intention and up only doing what was in service to the people who were watching it is why no matter where i go in the world on any given day somebody comes up to me and says i watched your show it changed my life i've i've been watching since i was five years old until i until i went from dvr vcr's a now streaming people watch end were were raised by that show i did a good job of raising a lot of people i must say and that happened because of an intention to be of service so i'm living in the space of radical love and gratitude truly i have i i i i feel the most beautiful life you can imagine i sit around trying to think of who could have a better life and i will tell you whatever you imagine my life to be like i wonder what oprah's doing right now it's always ten times better than whatever it is true a and and it's because it's not because i have well which is great at what money's fabulous i love it and i get a lot of attention that also good sometimes but it's because i had appreciation for the small steps the seeds were planted the map inflow of my life that unfolded because i was paying attention you have to pay attention to your life because it is speaking to you all the time and the bumps in the road and the failures appointed me in a new direction and led me to a path made clear that is what i'm wishing for you today you're own path made clear and i know there's an awful lot of anxiety a lot about what the future holds an how much money you're gonna make but you're anxiety does not contribute one i order to you're progress i'm here to tell you it does he opposite look at how many times you worried and you're upset and you didn't think you were gonna make it through the block got that text a couple of months ago and here you are today you you made it and i'm here to tell you that you're going to be more than okay so take a deep breath with me right now and repeat this everything is always working out for me i wanna hear it everything is always working out for me that's my mantra make it yours everything is always working out for me because it is and it has ended will continue to be as you ford you discover your own path aaron before it gets you thoughts let's take a second in sync are sponsor i know you know on this show we talk a lot about finding creative ways to relieve stress undefined peace in your life one of the most effective stress relieving hobbies is gardening but who has time for that well let plante package help you out with plant package the prep work of gardening is done for you plant package since durable seasonal plants since just the right amount of soil and plant food and includes instructions for assembly implant care right te'o home each plant packets takes around twenty minutes to assemble and i know you confined twenty minutes one of the great things about plant packages that you could choose the subscription options it fits your lifestyle you could choose whether you're box comes monthly every other month three even seasonally they really make it easy for everyone including people like me my most recent plant package was amazed little berry package which contain to strawberry into baiser plants which is perfect for us because my wife sometimes likes make a strawberry faisal gelato yeah it's really good if you'd like to take a gardening but you don't have the time feel overwhelmed by big box stores or you're just apparent looking for a quick easy relatively mess free activity do what the kids plant package is here are you right now plant packaged is offering our listeners a free first box visit plant package dot com slash brain to choose the delivery option then used the promo code brain at checkout to receive your first box for free so good a plant packaged dot com slash brain and use the promo code brain the get starting gardening free all right aaron we just heard that from oprah she covered a lot of stuff in this one and there's more to come one of the things that she said is that life is about taking one significant transforming step at a time not eight big one time thing to radically transform the moment that you're in which will leave to the big moments like this we've talked about this in the past but i think it's something revisit everybody thinks the overnight successes are possible but ninety nine percent of the time if you dig into someone who is seemingly an overnight success they've put in ten years or more of work to suddenly be discovered be an overnight success and yeah think this point of life is not about this magic lottery ticket the lanes in your lap isn't important point for us to make because it to me solidifies just every single day you can work like you really want what you actually want an unexpected it's gonna happen and it may or may not happen and but if you're not working your ass off the try to make it happen you almost guaranteed that it won't happen a yeah and i just wanna add a kind of different perspective you said that about ninety nine percent of a big success successes don't happen overnight an i would even say even with the one percent that it does happen for a lot of times that success is not tenable or long lasting because when you get that big hit a success all at once you're just not prepared for it's all of the struggles along the way all of the kind of crawling in clawing and you know then sprinting all of the different a beats along the way the success fast and the learning and the teachable moments that prepare you win that success does happen to be able to handle it it's necessary it is part of the success is the process yeah it's kind of what it's funny you know there's like a tolerance is you know people have like tolerances for alcohol or tolerance a certain drugs or whatever thee tolerances are built up by systematic stick a treatment of that particular whatever it is like if you if you never drink you tolerance is very low but if you have a glass of wine or two every single day you're tolerance slowly starts to grow and grow and grow and i think the same kind of thing happens where you're building up in this world of struggle like you're building up your tolerance for resistance and when you achieve like large amount of success or you've got a lot of pressure on you or you get somewhere somewhere that's in the spotlight or whatever it is where you're in front of a lot of people in like the light turns on this year time if you haven't built up a tolerance of resistance over a period of time you're you're likely crumble ends a that i think that's really what get out there yeah and i would just take it one step farther it's like i think the idea is is you wanna be able to visualize ultimately where you wanna go and what you deem that quote unquote success but i sexy idea dia is to understand that it is the fabric of the entire journey that makes the successful dress or whatever to go on in that metaphor it's that they are they are you can't extract the success from the process it is the entire process that is the success the successes just end part of a successful journey right and so i think if you look at it that way and change the you're perspective in a little bit it become so much more attainable and so much more important because every stat every i mean every step you're taking is important not just the steps that final step that gets you to the quote unquote price yeah and she said that she enjoys her life because she has appreciation for the steps to let her there and i i think that's kind of what she's talking about is well yeah you gotta you gotta enjoy the process because yeah easy see furrow stitches set a goal or an expectation about where we wanna be and it's always about the next thing i can't wait till the next thing happens i can't wait till i get there can't wait till the next can't can't can't we can't we can't wait now is sometimes the good stuff have you ever had a show that you're really excited about watching like i cannot wait obviously the timing of this podcast the game of thrones finale this happened and it's well over i know a lot of people including myself there were really really anticipating that finale like oh i can't wait i can't wait i can't wait and when i tried to do this time before i watched the finale was to say i'm gonna enjoy right now but this anticipation moment the i want something i have hofer something i'm excited about something this moment is the real value not actually watching right it also signed something it gives you joy in the middle of the day and you know i got that excitement anticipation if we could only do that about the things that we want so so bad week and barely even breeze the process could be so much more enjoyable loyal ends this speaks to her point about your anxiety not contributing to you're progress this i really like because i got some i think that people think that they amount of worry anxiety sided they have will somehow affect the outcome like it's that kind of murder syndrome and it doesn't truth is it just doesn't i'm one of those people by the way right well i really i'm looking i'm one of those people that's like if i can only just scheme away if you don't just come up with some magic idea fucking only just find out some some thought that i haven't had yet where i can make this happen faster then i'll really and i and i gotta tell you like that it almost never works every once in a while i will admit that i have an idea that's like i have that's interesting but it typically doesn't come when i'm in the midst of concern worry it tends to come when i've thought about it a little bit and then sort of let go and then he ideas sort of comes a little more naturally but yeah i think if you're if you're just sitting around worrying about everything they all the time especially particularly with things we don't have any control over then yeah it's it's not gonna contribute to our progress at all in a man we've got so much more to talk about let's listen but we go ahead and wrap up this episode so that we can get ready for part two which will be coming out next so a looking for that one on the next episode glenn wrap this one up until next

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Matthew Landfield's Wildly Deep History of His Childhood Home

Here's The Thing

38:31 min | 1 year ago

Matthew Landfield's Wildly Deep History of His Childhood Home

"Each listener supported w n._y._c. studios. I'm alec baldwin and you're listening to here's the thing today's guest and i crossed paths once before some twenty years ago in two thousand one. I took my only foray into directing movies. Matthew landfields was just out of college visiting visiting his parents in a dilapidated building on desbrosses street in lower manhattan that turned out to be part of our set. I remember you being <music> outside on disperses street with was jennifer love hewitt so you guys were outside. I remember the gripping electric guys this come upstairs and they had run some lighting cable through my mom's kitchen window <hes> you spent more time with my dad that day. Yeah i'm gonna get to that i did. Maybe i should have been looking at the dailies like i said it was my only attempt at directing but matthews dad ronnie lamm enfield was like someone out of a new york past he was a modernist painter who'd raised a family. They're starting in the seventies. Gentrification didn't really begin intra becca until after nine eleven much later than in neighboring so when we were shooting ronnie's block was just an italian restaurant and a row of former industrial buildings in those buildings dozens of people like kim made their homes and their studios ronnie invited me upstairs to see his paintings. He was a character with his cigarettes and bronx. Thanks accent. I thought had died off punching continents like they were sonny liston. I wanted to quit my movie and start a new one about him. Dustin hoffman would play the lead the whole scene stuck with me over the decades and a couple of years ago. I found myself. I self driving down the same block. The building at thirty one disperses was gone an empty lot instead. I searched the address hoping yeah. I might find what would replace it. When i found instead was a brilliant lyrical almost obsessively researched eight thousand word essay essay about that single plot of earth. It's called requiem for a living city and it's the story of thirty one disperses for ten two thousand years and who was the author of this epic tale none other than ronnie landfields son matthew you know my mom and dad were probably some some of the earlier people to move into rebecca a couple of their families that were already there. I didn't come along until another five six seven years later. I was born in nineteen to seventy six. There was no school. There was a whole foods. No there's no no there was nothing there was nothing down there. Where's you get the groceries so we would go to the west village. There was a grocery store called the pioneer on bleaker street that we would have to walk to and there was another place called morgan's on west broadway which on the dead of winter walk into the grocery head to yeah house on canal street. I mean it sounds crazy but at at that time it was like living pioneer lifestyle in the middle of this urban wilderness. It sounds more like you grew up on a farm. It was like that so what happened with the school. I guess a school called p._s. Three annex was opened in nineteen seventy seven by pioneering principal woman named blossom gelertner and she <hes> was very very progressive. She had a very kind of open minded perspective on education and she opened a school inside of independence positive which was a large housing development tiny little school but <hes> in those days there were so few children that the city didn't want didn't want to keep the school open and a lot of the resins quitting. My mother had to fight the city to keep a school in that era of tribeca so in in the film pollock probably knows at harris film. There's a scene where you know. <hes> pollock and lee crasner are talking and he says hey. Let's make a baby and she says no. You know you need and you you need and you need and <hes> she. She turns him down because they don't have any money. He's kind of crazy <hes>. He's you know he's got all author author of the year material no and so no look. My dad is not jackson pollock. My mom was not leak krassner but they face a lot of the same issues a lot of the same mm challenges you know they. They didn't have a lot of money they were. My dad grew up in the bronx. He was just a a basically just a working class. Kid and my mom was was raised by single mother and the the east side. My grandmother was an artist so she never had any either and so my mother was very lived above table human life <hes> i was gonna show you a picture later of <hes> of one of class oldenburg happenings with them. My mother was one of the cast members of <hes> of one of those those performance art kind of fishy in actress she she was a performer dancer. Where did they meet. I think they met in woodstock folk dancing dancing or something <hes> that that was the father into that too yeah. They were all into that sixty in those early sixty s yeah if you wanted to meet a woman that you were attracted to right anyway you were into whatever she was into it we into that. I do that all the time. I know that delia my my my my ex wife said to me. I'm vegetarian and i said so am i. That's so funny. I the hamburger like three hours ago exactly anyway so they're so former so my mom my mom had been perform. She'd had a clothing store with my grandmother for a little awhile in the east village but you know my mother and my father got together in the sixties and <hes> my father at the time was sort of like i wanted to say like an phone to rebe of art in a way like he was very young compared to so many of his compatriots but he's very ambitious in caridi for success yeah very very driven and his pace exactly but you know like succeeding in the art world is was is never easy even even if you are coming at it <hes> with with lots of resources and support from family money and all kinds of things and didn't have any of that. He had to fight his own family to become. I'm an artist now. It is dead do a delivery man and he was working class class guy on the grandmother that had the apartment chelsea was whose mother that was my mother's mother. My my mother's father was an artist. Also he's a graphic artist. He and his brothers had been they were born in savannah georgia all of them reform them but their mother moved them back to lithuania <hes> as children and so like in the nineteen twenties and thirties that lived in lithuania and they had a very very very difficult time there and then when they left their mother stayed and died in the holocaust so my grandfather my grandfather and his his brothers were extraordinarily talented in the arts they were. They were <hes> cartoonists and draw drawers. Basically illustrators mike. My grandfather's brothers a cartoonist. Nobody named val jaffe fi who does the fold ins <hes> and my grandfather worked with him for a little while doing cartoons but <hes> my grandfather was was i think a little more fragile than an ally was and and <hes> never really recovered from the loss of his mother in the holocaust and so <hes> he he <hes> <hes> struggled with depression basically p._t._s._d. For all of my mother's childhood and wasn't around and so my mother was raised by my grandmother and her grandparents it's in <hes> enforced tells and whatnot so <hes> but i want to get back to your parents like these kind of blaming kids just kind of on their own and and my mom was very devoted my father and my father was very determined and he she was very devoted to your she lived under these. I mean i don't want to describe it was that tough but was the place warm was would turn the heat on sometimes little kids so say the policy <hes> <hes> references rate. Was your mother sitting there. Like what am i going to get out of here or was it. What does she down the line. She was with him. She was but you know neither of my parents graduated from college which my father who tend to art school first time and decided that wasn't good. I know he was he actually went to the kansas city yards for a little while but decided that you know all all he really wanted to do was paint so he came back to new york and when into painting my mother <hes> didn't didn't didn't finish her college education and i think that that was something that she may be regretted over over time sort of you know she's of generation of women were that was not as important typical right and so <hes> you dad have a gal that represented him back then do some success right away he did he in the in the in the late sixties he he was right in there with a lot of important and <hes> painters and sculptors who were doing. I'm going to say this. I love your dad's painting. Oh good. I'm sure he would love to hear you say that he he he things we're working yeah. By the time i came. I'm alone my dad had already dealt. A reputation in the art. World was selling his paintings pretty regularly and their housing was affordable which is important for your career her for an artist. It's everything so i come along and then my brother comes along and then what happens in seventy nine actually when the year that you came to new york the rent was tripled and and all of a sudden <hes> this manageable life becomes a a little bit more difficult and my my dad's still continued through through the early eighties to have success in the are in the arts <hes> selling his work but it was it became harder. It was harder and of course you have a family you have children and and <hes> we're getting more expensive. Things are more challenging and so you know <hes> it was. It was not i i would. I would not say that their life was a panacea it was it was a challenge announced. It was always difficult. <hes> any last there how much longer i mean they lived there until two thousand twelve two thousand twelve so when i saw him because i want to paint this picture quickly before i forget which is again this really going to correct me if i'm wrong because when i tell this story i always turn your father into a dustin hoffman character character dustin hoffman would play your father not. He doesn't have your accent correct because i play him like he's got a really thick new york accent. He you know my my wife would say that he does but he doesn't really later certain words that he they might move version of this. Your dad has a really super thick new york smoked. He remember this is my this is what i remember. I'm standing in front of this building and your dad shows up freezing cold and i'm sitting there and he starts talking me he goes. You're making a movie and i'm like yeah. We're making alec baldwin right. You're like an actor right on my cab direct this week. Thank you living here with my wife. I'm a painter and he lights a cigarette and get an extra cigarette and i love when people look at me like you're rich movie starring. You bummed a cigarette off me by living in this loft and desbrosses street sure okay yeah. He was smokey. We go and i'm sitting there. Smoking a cigarette with your father on the street and i am just something happened to me. I like to live in this building. I wanna live in the <music>. Only get a hold of this thing. I wanna have a section in this building to myself and i'm going to blow it up and fix it all above obama but he lasted two two thousand twelve well yeah i mean they. They basically hurricane sandy really kinda sandy. Where were you at the time. I was living in brooklyn with my family. Never left the city heavier college but i haven't lived in other places. Where did you go again. I went to college in vermont at middlebury college middlebury of i love you went to middlebury for four years for you. What did you study. I studied theater. I studied filmmaking. Geography arranged yeah mostly acting mostly theater peter mostly film. What did you want to do. I wanted to be an actor when i got out of school and then filmmaker <hes> which which is what i do now yeah now as two thousand twenty leaves only because so he would've stayed there have been many years of legal battles with the landlord you know they had basically been living with the specter conviction from seventy nine till you know twenty twelfth twenty thirteen the whole the whole time they're they're eventually though their their place was with rent stabilized everyone in the building they're they're units were stabilized and they had a right to stay so then the storm comes so yeah so in sandy and my father's studios on the ground floor and you i know my father being who he is a little bit crazy. They stayed in the building. They were there the whole the whole time. They did not evacuate. He didn't wanna leave his work he. He didn't want to leave the the the the place so he witnessed the whole <hes> neighborhood flood. Where'd he go. They went up to some of the upper levels of the building handing because other folks might dustin hoffman movie he smoked. I'm leaving. Everybody else's leaving. I'm not going anywhere. You're pretty pretty much right. That's exactly how he was. He said the lights went out. <hes> the cars the cars flooded up to the roof of the cars and <hes> and you know that was about three hours and then the water went away and you know that part of the city is is in a tidal estuary the the basement of our building would flood a lot over over the many years because it was landfill and it was technically part of the river and so <hes> that wasn't a surprise to him but the flooding in the street was we'd he'd never seen and i asked him the other day about and he said never ever ever ever ever in the forty three years of their life. There there had he ever seen flooding in that was that was that was interesting. People who don't know that about landfill and maybe you know because your article speaks to a lot of that history which if i'm not mistaken just as excavated material from the world trade center was responsible for some of the build out of battery park. Absolutely it was excavation from the subway. Oh boy system that delta some of tribeca correct or no no no governor's island for example is is mostly the excavation from the lexington avenue subway right but tribeca because that stipple land was was landfilled between eighteen o three and eighteen twenty nine. We know subway. You know subway at that time. Most of it probably came from the leveling of hills in manhattan because back a lotta hills in those days and also oyster shells garbage and broken shoddiest his fat undoubtedly people who drowned ben control go because so so he so the flood comes and then they ha they did have to leave they did have to leave and basically the the city went through the neighborhood and <hes> declared they're building <hes> condemned they condemned that building yes and then the tenants fight that they they did have to fight that and there was a court case which was there was a little article in the new york times about it. <hes> you know there was a lot of contention about the state of the building before sandy had not been great because it hasn't been maintained and the landlord objected and all the stuff i it can totally disclose all the details because there was a settlement <hes> but <hes> it resolved and then they decided to leave upstate yet so that's the valley to the hudson valley so ooh did they try to make it work before they went to hudson valley. You know my father is a <hes> and i'm sure he'll listen to this and chuckled. Hopes that so you know i mean come on. It's a terrible person okay so that's my memory. Would this tough-looking normally painter. I'm a painter seeing come up and see my paintings. I mean he was such a new yorker. He was he was <music>. I he's got a little more of the bronx. They're think than <hes> than that but you know the thing with him is that is that <hes> he he's <hes> he someone who who likes to stay. He's very grounded person so his initial <hes> impulse was to move back to the bronx studio. Yeah i mean the fact of the matter is my father had a big studio in lower manhattan and there is no way that you can replicate that in the back of price tribeca backup and old forget he brooklyn forget about it even talk about that too and so so we can't replicated in the bronx the bronx get torn down now to the bronx. All my friends and our real estate executives executives. That's the that's the not even the next. They're they're now. They're tearing everything down there talking about million and two million dollar condos overlooking yankee stadium. That's your view. The movie studios building up their silver cup went up there. Absolutely they're all gonna take their properties in queens tear that down build housing yeah. I'm not gonna name name name. Yes some of them. Some of them can tear their space down. Some can't if there's a financial incentive you know in new york. Their land is worth more money as residential housing overlooking the river you right over here on the for the fifty ninth street bridge in long island city some people who will remain nameless that i know of told me they're going up to the bronx and move their whole operation up to the bronx. You know that that wasn't my fathers. First impulse impulse was to move up there and my brother he's from exactly yeah my brother and i kind of invade upon him to to look to look a little further further out and <hes> so he found a place that where he was able to build a new studio he built one yeah he built one so is settlement and everything put them in a position he was comfortable. He's doing okay so he built a new studio which <hes> was the right thing for him to do. We got a place where he could live and work. <hes> comfortable easy up there in a year goes by does he turn to your mother and go man. We should have done this twenty years ago you know did he just really sit there and go why. Why did i break my ass to stay in manhattan or dizzy miss new york every time i visit them. We have this conversation. What does he say we go through it over and over again and you know he does miss tribeca misses that neighborhood because a lot of things about it that that made it a wonderful place to be <hes> and it's an it is sad to begun from there but the things he likes of their pluses about being up there. It's lovely being away from the city to and i think that <hes> when we think about what tribeca has become their neighborhood became in the time even before standing there putting up in place of that building strange looking go yeah i mean but something made of legos their community the people who were there when they came all of them are gone. They either have <hes> been bought out. <hes> or or four saudis were passed away and you know it's it's a generational turnover funny. How people don't realize i mean in my lifetime lifetime. I mean i came here and that was the dawn of the <hes> the build out of soho and tribeca beyond that and then battery park. Did you ever imagine that apartments apartment would sell for thirty million dollars right around the corner from where you grew up. I mean it. Is i mean i think it's unrealistic in a lot of ways but it but at the same time everybody wants to live there. That's reflective of the big trends in our economy and our politics tucker that right now. I mean talking about how it plays out new york well i mean new york is not divorced from the economy of of the united states. It's part of it and it always has been go you go all the way back to <hes> <hes> the the very very beginning of that neighborhood of tribeca and those days to alexander hamilton and the things that they were dealing with after the revolution and if you look through my piece about the evolution of that particular neighborhood it's always been connected to the economy of america and right now is no different and right now. We're living in a in a plutocracy where you have you know billionaires right and left and the and and really there they have unfettered power to to buy and sell real estate and that is very clearly distorting the marketplace and the broader economy matthew land field on changes at had thirty one st and around the globe. The battle between preservation and development in new york can be brutal. Perhaps new york's most prominent preservationists is andrew berman. He's the one who led the charge to landmark the iconic streets of southern greenwich village. After after fifty years of people trying to get that area landmark we were able to get it landmark <hes> into stage. We actually had almost blackmailed the city. They wanted to get an an area adjacent to that rezoned as a sop to a developer trinity real estate in this case <hes> and we pushed the city council to say a we won't approve the rezoning that you the city want unless you move ahead with this landmark that the community has been asking for for years here. The rest of that interview had here's the thing dot org more with matthew landfilled coming up. Here's the thing is supported by luminary. The only place where you can listen to lena dunham's new podcast asked the c word join lena and co-host elizabeth bennet for a rich hilarious and heartbreaking look into exactly what it means when we call a woman crazy listen into the c word and so much more only luminary get your first two months of access to luminaries premium content for free when you sign up at luminary dot link slash thing thing that's luminary dot link slash thing after that it's seventy nine per month cancel any time terms apply. I'm alec baldwin and you're listening to here's the thing no a political battle in recent memory has crystallized attitudes about gentrification more than amazon's proposal to build its second headquarters in queens neighborhood of long island city overnight the real estate values in long island city went through the roof ryan you know i think that that's it's just another indicator of aspects of our economy. That are just broken. I think that's true of the whole city in a lotta ways especially when it's very <hes> manicured manicured in a way and i i don't wanna see it's never going to go back because one thing that i <hes> found in doing the <hes> the research into the history of <hes> where i grew up was that the city waxed and waned didn't really describe a period where it waned well between eighteen seventy and nineteen forty all lower manhattan was this massive <hes> words port just a gigantic shipping hub from from from the very tip of the battery all the way up goods and all kinds of foods and services until after the second world war for when shipping transformed into container shipping the technology of containerships was developed these enormous tinker size is ships that could ship more that ship faster and it was was less expensive so all of that moved to the port elizabeth in new jersey that the entire west side became a ghost town yeah and you have this sort of vacuum of space and into that vacuum artists start exactly exactly so that that's one version of how <hes> the city that partisan has waxed and waned and <hes> but even before that when <hes> the neighborhood was first settled by <hes> really by trinity church trinity church on oh out of the land down <hes> and still does own a lot of land owns a lot of stuff jennings's building so after the the revolution the church burned burned down during the war there was a terrible fire burned down the rebuild the church and the congregation and grew and <hes> the city was starting to grow and so they wanted to expand and they they wanted to build a new church <hes> a little further north earth just just north of city hall and so they built a chapel called saint john's chapel which was on vegetarian and varick and end in front of the church they built a park called saint john's park or hudson square and that that part <hes> was private vit- park there were houses that were grammercy park in fact was the model for grammercy park and washington square park they built houses around the park and they wanted <hes> they wanted basically wealthy people who were mostly living down on broadway and further further south closer to wall street then one of them to move in there and so that neighborhood becomes a wealthy kind of very genteel and clave around the park on between eighteen twenty and eighteen fifty but then when you have the railroad cornelius vanderbilt belva the hudson river railroad line along hudson street and starts running trains up and down to ship things back and forth and <hes> the residents of that neighborhood don't wanna be close to the railroad and so they start to leave and so by eighteen sixty seven <hes> they fled that area they're completely out of the area in the park is sold and converted into a railyard <hes> by by vanderbilt and so again you have you have this sort of whacking and waning of life in in a particular area growth and death mostly due partly due to sentinel <unk> change. I mean you have you have the the coal powered howard steam engine. You have railroad jeff bezos of his he was like that exactly exactly so but what i want you to get to his what was the genesis of this piece you wrote so after sandy my my parents left on. They moved up up to that savelli and a lot of the buildings down. There were empty and <hes> obviously something was going to be done with them. <hes> i didn't know what they knocked down. The building that was demolished in twenty four and a two thousand fourteen early twenty fifteen and you know that was that was painful to experience it. I was very painful very sad and and i had a lot of feelings about it and at the time i had actually been recently laid off from demanding job and i was kind of burned out and i wanted to do something a little bit different and i went down there one day and the building was completely gone and i was looking down into the foundation and i was like wait a minute. What's in in there like i wondered i was like oh where they're you know. American indians who live there was there is some archaeological history in there. I wanna know what was under there because i never you thought about the building as not being there and then number two what it was on in the first place that started me off in this sort of inquiry the implant a write anything. I didn't plan to tell anybody i was going to answer the question for myself and so i started digging into it and <hes> i i accept that in collecting the material and looking into it the only way i could make sense of it was to write it all down and compile it into some form form that could communicate both my feelings about the experience of having grown up in this place as well as what i was learning about the history three of the place and perhaps what the future of the place might be <hes> so that was really the genesis of writing that particular. How long did it take you to write the piss. There's there's like copious. Research involved in this. I got a little carried away these questions it has a lot of stuff in it and i did do a fair amount of research. I'd spend a lotta time in the library which i have to say if if anyone is interested in supporting an institution russian near public library is probably the best when i can think of right now and i just kept finding things that i was like oh my god look at these photographs look at this material of saint john's park or these images of docs in manhattan in eighteen ninety nine or whatever like all gone like these phantoms that have have been forgotten about but made the city what it is the reason why i was there at all and i wanted to capture that share nineteen nineteen sixty-nine my mum dad moved there in sixty nine and <hes> when they moved there that building had been empty for for probably at least five years had been an industrial manufacturing building. Were they may protesting cough syrup. There was no bathroom. There was no kitchen there was there was nothing when when our moved into that neighborhood at that time they were moving into largely commercial spaces renting them on like ten year commercial leases and living there which was technically illegal. What do they do about the facilities that they didn't have where they put them. In put in <hes> you know lawyers and the kitchens and bathrooms and stuff and you're dead yeah and rent was made of the owners who had run as the industrial building. They were commercial landlords. Yes legs out come in there that has turned a blind eye. Yes when i came to new york in nineteen seventy nine. It was the beginning of the flip of soho and you'd read in the village voice sued read about you know the battle to save industrial space in new york and everyone kept saying well. Maybe it'll come back and eventually get to the. I don't know what year was seventy seven seventy eight seventy nine where it's basically ruled. They're not coming back and they allow the residential build out of soho yeah. This place was a bolt factory. Spicer was a sewing machine factory greens westbrook and they're all gone and you're in front of all these cast iron buildings. They're about to flip but tribeca was behind that red exactly actually i mean also under the because the la- napa indians were the original inhabitants of manhattan. What i didn't really know was there hadn't been people there before it had been the river that particular strip of lower manhattan spill was was fill it had arisen like when european settlers got at the very beginning all of that was was the river and it was filled in over over the course of of several years and i found who who failed it in. I found found out who who fills it. Well what happens is between seventeen ninety and eighteen three the city search to sell all the water rights to the coast of the island and say you we will sell the rights to the coast if you develop if you develop it and so real estate speculators speculators a guy named hugh gain is one of them <hes> he was a printer he was a publisher. He was a real estate speculator kind. That was a little bit on both sides of the war in the revolution <hes> he buys the particular lots there and <hes> starts starts to develop and the river divided up into lots yeah they they divided up into lots and so what he does is or what they do is they they i they build these works. I guess the little wars are called cobwebs and then they start to kind of fill in the space in between them with with junk with with oyster shells with <hes> d'etre this from the city the from <hes> you know <hes> earth from from hills that have been leveled a further inland on on the island and over the course of about twenty five years the the <hes> the west street areas developed so like you know washington street is filled in then the block western western washington's filled in and then there's there's west now. That edge of the island was still pretty rough. Even all the way up until about eighteen seventy when the city he goes in and really standardizes massive engineering and it's just it took a long time but <hes> yeah so i found that and with that told me was that when sandy flooded lower manhattan the high water mark lines up with the contours of the island before it was settled you can overlay the i found this amazing it is it is like that you can overlay the sixty-nine version of manhattan to sandy the the innovation zone and it lines up right in there and god doesn't like tribeca there. Maybe doesn't like the settlement so i don't know oh 'cause before hugh gain before settlement before they developed it it was it was swamp. I suppose the word is take away or what have you but when you look back on you spent a lot a lot of time writing this yeah you spend a lot of time researching. There's a lot of research that went in this and when you're done. How do you feel about what's happened to the property your home. Have you made peace with that or are you still yeah so. It's a place that i love. It's my home. It's the village in which i was raised. Regardless of of the economics regardless of who's who's living there regardless of the historic preservation or the real estate or whatever might i take away is that my home is in jeopardy from climate change. I think that that particular place is is at risk of being an uninhabitable place in in a generation or two and doesn't matter if you make a lot of money or if you are just a a normal person working to make a living we're facing a thread that requires us to confront together or else. We will have to retreat to other boundaries. Maybe yeah. I mean what with with my family. We had to go. We said to my father. You can't stay there because says if there's another sandy you won't make it through so we chose to to move to higher ground. <hes> you know there'll there'll be people who will listen to this and think that i'm crazy look at the property values and you can still make so much money and apartments down they're selling millions and millions and the true threat from climate changed made beef far off but for us. It's in the rear view. Mirror right new york is an island on an estuary. It's it's a it's surrounded by water. We are not immune and there are a lot of people with a lot of precious things here that are at risk and we have to either solve our political problems and start dealing with it or we have to make a plan and i have not heard any politician or leader adequately address us the scale of what we're truly dealing with none of this country and not in this you know i think i will say like god bless her alexandra qazi cortez one of the few who's actually saying it and here's the other thing about it. We're not good at dealing with problems that are beyond our imagining. If i i told you on september tenth two thousand one that by noon the next day the two towers would be gone serrated. Yeah completely and thousands of people would be he dead. Most people would have thought you crazy if you had said that but the next day what happened and i remember seeing those buildings and and the the whole in the from the plane and thinking how are they gonna fix that. How are they gonna repair that and it didn't occur to me that they weren't going to be able fix it that there are some things are some problems that you just cannot can't say that you can't that can't sell and i think that with with the situation like we're facing with what is coming with climate change <hes> it is one of those problems and so either we address the problem and do what we you have to do to cut emissions or whatever it is the what are those policy are to try it even trying. We're trying. Our politics are so broken we can try. If that is the case then we have to say okay. What does that mean if it means. The whole neighborhoods are gonna flood. We have to be prepared for how do we get people out of that at high tide that they could canoe from the east river up a creek into the collect pond which is now where the center street courthouses it across another creek to the hudson without getting out of the boat and if you look at projections of what climate change will do in lower manhattan may a beef possible again author and filmmaker matthew lynnfield on the past present and future in his native soil. His article is called requiem for a living city notes on a home in tribeca and it's available on his website matt lynnfield dot com. I'm alec baldwin. Here's the thing is a production of w._n._y._c. Studios studios <music> and <music>.

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I Mean ... Amina w/ Amina Imani and Rosebud Baker

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I Mean ... Amina w/ Amina Imani and Rosebud Baker

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You got a little school system going on over the head in his little thing his term this is Great Rosebud is early for her podcast and she came in here with a dog just like away. I mean here doc so. Actually you know what's so funny is we as we do this particular podcast. We are going to just I'm GONNA. I don't know this episode so will precede the next episode but I really wanted to put my take down on. <hes> you know sort of the James Davis <hes> <hes> Dina has sham controversy mercy but I I'm really WanNa talk about it more <hes> in the episode of Khloe on and I have <hes> Rosebud Baker was going to be on but here's my overall just sit down because I think it's a needs a bigger <hes> attention attention than <hes> what may happen when we all sit down and everybody starts to talk and you know points may not be made by me because I get very distracted so I just wanted to lay down a little quick <hes> overview you of the situation and what I thought and opening up to a bigger discussion and so this is either you guys have already heard that episode in the conversation has been had and this is just my take take which is interesting because it may may change <hes> in the actual episode <hes> or this is either <hes> predating this which I doubt it will because I mean the topic. Nobody is going to care about this in two weeks. So Dina has sham is a Muslim comic in New York City. She has <hes> risen through the comedy ranks. I think pretty quickly and you know I'm sort of old school when it comes to comedy where people <hes> I get a text message and I should not read them. Christine wants to know I haven't edible we'll do this is what you're asking me three forty nine in the aid to the to the P. to the M.'s you'd applaud yeah I mean I. I don't know how became the plug my refrigerator. I identify you who you are in life. I just told the podcast about you about your tax. This takes you and when it comes to comedy the she'd been doing it for a little bit. How Yes oh let me talk to you? After sorry guys I gotta I gotTa be also bitches medical minute so we talk about Roger to the ranks for me. You know there was a there was obvious dues that we had to pay when I moved here in two thousand one I started doing comedy prior to that. <hes> where you you wouldn't be so much fraternizing <hes> again <hes> amongst amongst levels you know <hes> they will be certain levels it would be like maybe a ten or fifteen year and up table and then if you was under that you most certainly couldn't sit down. Let's he was invited. Even if you were invited yet to be quiet you know sorta like how you do not see it when he comes in so that that is that particular situation but also <hes> you know it because of the way the climate is now and people are jumping on maybe two or three years in I don't know how long she's been doing comedy but she's a newer common to me. <hes> people can can kinda jump in at any point in any level and anytime and then you go okay. Here's this person you understand and James so oh that's my relationship to deny his sham. I have I think judged are couple times and they'd be like a rose battle but I have not hung with her. I don't know her like that but I know her nothing passing to smile or say hello and I hear her name. It's you know what a great writer. She is is in <hes> comedian and things like that right and then on the other end so she this is the comic that had a joke on comedy central's this week at the seller and she she the joke was basically about. What's his name tenacious exotic yeah tenacious or to notch? I don't know these negus extent tasha excess Sasha. I don't really know him. He was all I remember double exercise. What was it w yeah they triple X.? Maybe whatever all I know is whenever I hit he's niggers names. I don't know if it's a Nigga or it's like a commercial for propecia because I don't know why all these knicks have all these like exotic US loosening name or this little tribe question this new nigger I follow <hes> corday. His name is cordray is why being corday because they all part of this group called the Y.. Bien like a gang I guess or current they not really a gang gang gangs gang if they WANNA be again gang so like a Rockefeller or a rough riders right where they all sort of like one Nigga starts the thing he's the he's the Byrd Man of the group all these other niggers got to put this his name on top of that name to show respect and that they down for this click okay which I always think is somewhat naive of people and it's ver- and then see young person's thing because young people like too late a shit down in groups and as you get older you as you can't move with people because moving with people can be stagnating stagnating to your career but it's okay to have friends right like we don't have to move as a group as when one Nigga start to outshine the other Nigga but he wasn't really the negative outshine. I feel some kind of way people started to get set up like I think this is. This is me being older one when I understand why do that when they're young but when they older only for it right so that's that so tenacious wishes X._X._X.. Or X._X._X.. SONATE SEAN who whatever his name is <hes> and may he rest in peace because I'm most certainly not trying to disrespect the dead. I didn't know him like that. I know that he got shot back on his way either to make a purchase of a car or not. Make a purchase or had already made the fact checks on that but the joke reference him going to participate right like fifty thousand dollars right right and the the punch on it was this is a perfect. This was a perfect end-all beall for Vin Mo- <hes> right and then James Davis was also a comedian. I don't know James Davis like that. If we were to connect it would probably because we're black comics right and he is a black comic. He had <hes> a show on comedy central call hooded Jason and that was about one season and he referenced <hes> all the facts that probably already have been done not in this episode of exactly what he say 'cause he posted a bunch of Shit that I wanNA talk about later <hes> but he referenced this joke and <hes> was pretty much like <hes>. It's okay to laugh at the death of a rapper something like that. I don't think he referenced the Black Man but it's something if he did okay but something like it's now it's okay it's okay question mark to reference or to make fun of rapper and in turn because he is a high profile comic and he had a show like hood adjacent. He garnered the attention of outlets that are hip hop heavy that obviously support this young gentleman that was murdered and they take it and then they do what they do which you know and that's sort of hip hop community it is all about laying down respect having B. and taking people out and it became a big big catastrophe right with young kids. I and they're all young kids. I mean if there's a grown adult thirty five plus that was tweeting that <hes> Dina has sham or comedy central death threats and so forth and so on the person needs to you know just straight walk into traffic not even check and the stand in the middle of the street for about our because these are the type of loses sometimes out there but most of these are a young kids. Whatever you know call her con- you know you bitch this this you that this so dina takes that heat which let me just say P._S.? And I'M GONNA get a lot of flex this. The bitching won't be fine. She okay these niggers. I've always said this right. I WANNA white man threatens me or white. Person's threatens me. I take seriously because he's this is who we see out there crossing colas killing like this they that's what they do. Malicious shit they go to a Walmart. Nothing's on sale. They killing everybody in the Walmart for you feel like the threats were thrown at her our title I don't I think they were are idle. I think because to say that they idle means that there's no real energy behind her sort of like superfluous. I think deep down in a hard he had wanted to do something to the girl obviously what because they already think she white so they've done no investigation behind the scenes about they just see light skin and they assume that she's white and the thing I know about this culture of love kids is that they do a lot of Wolf see when I had I had a whole run in with Doug Stanhope Fans and whenever I go into bonfire and I talk about racism in America I get a lot of flack from that and I got a lot of flack from White People D._M.. Me Because I did a joke on comedy central saying that black people a tired of white people and the way they run this country so we just fighting for black people so any black name that comes up we vote little real trae any of them with a candidate whose name was Nagy Gigi Nickerson. I would vote for him and I get inundated with a bunch. You know not not necessarily death threats but like you black bitch your bitch. How dare you I people are the problem guys lazy that this is what I did my inbox right with the Doug Stanhope thing they were for a solid week and a half? They were tweeting guerrillas to any club up that I was performing your comedy club guy like five six gorillas like just for me doing like rose battle anywhere will they were troll right and then I had a thing clip from comedy the center with the Nickerson Kevin Brennan took that ran with that had his trolls get involved understand and then him and I gotta being something and I have to say something to him about like why would he even do that for this situation is very familiar right and with the Kevin thing was. Nigger I have never been disrespectful to you right. It's all about respect disrespectful to you. I've introduced you onstage with more energy than you deserve and at what point in time would you then try to throw me out to all these trolls that are supporting you because you trying to make some point is irresponsible so that seems to be the general consistence when it comes to this James Davis Dana situation that is irresponsible absolutely so on the one end it is very irresponsible that he would take this and he would then turn it into something right but in reading some of the posts from him. I realized that he doesn't he did not think and I can see how he didn't think that it would get this far so that's just the facts right right and in the meantime Dina had sham has received death threats people have they've put out there her mother's address goodness right breath what is wrong with because people who are not going to do anything they WANNA give information that people that they think will also it's Larry if something did go down definitely the person that put the address all the people that put the Edris out a culpable and needs to be served so she had two extra take that she has it was like it hasn't come down yeah. It has to come down. It has to come down for her safety. I don't think you know people like Oh comedy central Yeah Yeah. They want to go down for her safety. Nobody playing around with no joke and the point where you got irrational people who don't get it now to say something on to to their in. I get it a lot of times especially. When it comes to black the people people think we the punchline to jokes you understand people think it's okay to laugh about because this certain like like was what's his name from what was his name from the fast and furious? They got killed Tarez Ariz Poker Theresa's alive. I thought you in the move another no Paul Walker I I remember there being some some form of first of all I research the person I a dazzling because he got all day what I'm saying he got all day to just because he put on albums and hang out right now all day to day time and you know he don't like black woman like there anyway so I don I really let's not say let's keep it light on the time. Okay my fault Paul Walker go here but I remember somebody money doing trying to get a joke off about that. Maybe months later and people are now. You can't so there's a certain right. There's certain regard with is a too soon. Sometimes when it's a white artists that dies or white celebrity the dies and it can't be soon enough to joke off on a nigger so I understand that energy. I'm not going to act like as a black person. I don't get it and that I don't understand that I understand that these kids lost their whatever they consider to be their hero so there's a lot of irrational the energy going on. I think you've got to look at the climate of just what's happening. Now like you know black people are pretty much. I mean I don't I mean yeah being massacred so I think it's a sensitive subjects that I've that's why I feel like it's conflicting because it's like oh well what if what if the person who died was white right or what she was bland right with this with this job be okay but that brings me to my other point the amount of energy executed yeah yeah and clowns clowns up on comedy Central Page Demon Shins page call her by the call her bid dirty white lassie bitch. y'All don't put that kind of energy when we watched they. Did you know that the Nigger Kill Eric Garner is free right yeah. Do you understand we have watched black. People being murdered not killed murdered innocent black people murdered on oops. Oh I thought by white cops left and right we have watched our government turn into the Klu Klux Klux Klan and we have watched children be put in cages separated from their parents never to know who the parents because they separated the child from their parent when a hidden two weeks old or we go and you got all this time and energy about a clip now have you got all this time and energy for vis and that the let me step out of and be quiet but if you only got energy for what you consider to be a woman who you can talk shit too right as a woman who have had niggers talk shit to them because they think they can. I will not stand for it right. That was another shuffle. What if that was white? Man is so many layers to this conversation yeah yeah and I wanted to just put it plain about what it is before we delve into a because there are the as one side. There's another side. There's always a as black women. We are always so empathetic to seeing both sides because nobody sees our side right <hes> we get displaced by white men who don't need us other than backing slavery when he was fucking US whenever they could you sell us for sex and be rate US and da Da da we are completely insignificant to them although they need us right and most certainly needed us for breeding and Labor uh we are oftentimes ignored right by black men who feel useless because they cannot they feel useless and protecting themselves let alone having into then be with a black woman and then protect whatever black family they produce so they do a lot of cop out right with a disassociate themselves from black women because of trauma in pain we are also oftentimes spitefully used by white women who wanna a push forward their agenda but then don't include the things that we need is women of color because we are double marginalized so we always had to look at this sort of like circular like open to see a little bit of this a little bit of the but I I just WanNa lay steak right now that I think I feel for dealer his sham and wish she's going through. I've been there. Maybe I've gotten a few death. Threats not not not not on that level and and I can't even understand what that's like my what that feels like how daunting that can be knowing that you are at the beginning of what is your popular career but I do know that I looked at her page. She was twenty thousand deep. When I looked to her I blinked and she was at twenty five and today she is at forty eight? So people are coming onboard. She will have support she will be fine. <hes> show career will probably outstep yours and mine. You understand what I'm saying so there's no I'm just saying because the sort of like rescuing and there I suffered through all day. Nobody rescue me that we'll see that was not McConnell Avenue and other comics that knew that I was going through with people were due for me when they would see me. They go yours. I heard that Doug Sanyo you digital thing. I'm like well. Where was the support? When I had people calling me Nigga all over my page and people people like going read it and type my name and see how much does there? It's horrible horrific so she will be fine. She will have a career and we probably get ready packet together 'cause you. We all go into submission for the dealer Hisham <hes> which you say controversy Shota Comedy Central and four weeks because they producing it now I'm sure and if they not I wanNA pitch please. I would executive produce it because I came up with it the way you should I say show and we just put all the shit out there and I. I'm telling you don't do the Wi with nate and on the other end I understand where James Davis came from. Is a black person going wider fuck. I don't think he thought it was going to get this big but also nigger these comments I think are so much so trash and I'm like like fuck this because they always tell somebody brilliant somebody you know 'cause industry. They showed a pick who the fuck they want and he'd be like Oh. You're just making this nick into whatever the fuck it is so I don't respect. I've been doing comedy too long. There's some of them I respect. I'm like Oh. This is what <hes> Julio Torres. He has a thing coming on H._B._O.. Commercial I'm like I've watched him. They made a big fucking deal about him and I'm like here. They go making a big fucking deal about somebody but then I'll watch now oh no. I like this kid. I can't connect him emotionally. Because it's something dead Dennis. I am yeah but like it turns his no. It's just like just like kidnapped. You just like it's so like is so tight. Set is so fucking tight that I'm not tight like that like I <music> I starts tight when I'm working in and then I loosened the knobs to shit so it's not so like oh you should connected all the way you still keep this tug of war but I love watching him okay so I'm like I get the industry. Whatever whatever but there's something if you try to try to hype 'cause industry is all about like they started a template like fifty sixty years ago and they wanna move that template along like they started like who's going to be the next Joan rivers sir? You know who's going to be the next George Carlin who's going to be next Eddie Murphy and that's why you only see one two of something especially when it comes to men to black men are men of color a women of color or white women white when we when we put on now to replace on someone us oh what but there's always going to be a thousand white male comics right right <hes> even though they complained that day I was this game this because it's everywhere a thousand white guy all of them Khloe Khloe had Dalla friend to get us by Grandma's didn't stay that was like yeah shuttled Niggers WanNa spot go to skanks online at the ender. How do we get here? You know how we have a long conversation about on the next. I don't even know what we want difference. I want different <hes> takes on. It won't just be about that. I mean you know Rosebud is on <hes> is on comedy central. Come out already your special special. Don't you have a bill purposes. It's like a short set but it has gone into point twenty twenty cents. You come out about two months ago. Oh what was that from digital okay. Why don't you just sit down here for a second city with this dog yet because not see as nervous yeah and I said dogs he come here was his name Charlie switch? I've seen trolley before Charlie not even bothering Utah Charlie's in love with her baby Charlie missing a beat anywhere you go yeah Charlie's obsessed with me. Come here in my life. I love you. Charlie is going to be hard to be boyfriend like my dog won't didn't feel like me because he won't move. He didn't look at you know nobody else he. He loves me. He's so sweet. He's like the easiest dog Charlie from I got him from. He's like the most expensive rescue in the world. I don't even understand it. I paid three hundred dollars for he's a rescue. I was like he doesn't have a home. Why am I paying right right right right right paid? I paid a one hundred yeah. That was expensive. I paid one hundred fifty expensive live. I'm like they're fucking homeless. Just give it to me and then did they come. Look at Your House and make sure things they didn't do any of that. It was just a rip. My friend was just trying to get some cats and the lady was like what type of plans and do you have screens on your window. Oh very relaxed got to worry about screens on my windows when the cat has never seen a win does a cat wants to live in a home with Al when I what I want to get Richard Pryor my new. Okay yeah we still gotTA. Come meet that yeah. Did you get my text message. You got the other one. You didn't get the second one about my game night next week. I did won't be here. Did you get it. I didn't get it. Let me just this hold. Hold on a second hurt. She's like I didn't invite you but it's coming. No it's not about dinovite you. It's not about that at all. I sent out I Marina Franklin and I got into a beef a couple years ago because I sent into group texts which I love to invite people to a party I sent about five text messages to about eight people pop right. y'All and everybody got it and then she blocked me on her phone. She's not going to tell 'cause we're really hates. She's like don't be talking so marina apologize but I have to say this for the point I then started to individually sin text messages and then what happens happens is maybe sixty or seventy percent of the people get them even though their individual and then some people don't so I just talked to. I talked to McCullough because I'm doing. I don't know if I'm supposed to tell what she's doing the show and how come you didn't just sent you a Texas last night with things. She says. I didn't get a text message so what's going on with your phone. That's what I want to know. I some people are not getting my shit yeah but I think it's a way because you didn't get the one last night. Did you know didn't get a message so I sent one last night anyway. The Twenty Eighth Charlie stay over here. Sorry Charlie scared of kids yes and then he's scared to Charlie so perfect. Charlie said this is this is where they got the community now. A little black boy and low black dog can't even get together. They have divided US among trump's fault now charlie. Just just stay away last night but I'm having a game night on the twenty eighth. Yeah that's going to be fire. You've what I'll come up game before. So why wouldn't I not give you. That's why was joking amount about you not inviting me but we'll take you at all may run so people get no people like no. I'm actually going to have to game nights this year. Yeah I'm GonNa do this. This is more of a fun out in the world and then I wanted to have a just a women in comedy. Yeah it's great you know 'cause we. We gotta do the dinner then again this year to do the women to comedy dinner you both have been. I didn't know that was you organized it a caroline's yeah. I thought you said it was I. She organized organized last year but she couldn't go because you know what I saw it. Thank you yeah because I want women in comedy to I want I start myself no before I start myself saying because I think I've heard com ago that women comedy it'll help and that's not true bullshit. That's something they they say. Actually divide divide us but I do know women comedy that have be you know what I'm saying like these beads. Which is why I'm so glad you guys you? <hes> Amina Mani Sydney Washington shot up the Sydney Sydney is <hes> so you're sober and there was such a beautiful thing that she she wrote I Iran I met Sydney during those drunk time and but I would always see her when she wasn't. You know what I'm saying like when she was okay okay so I couldn't understand the depths Utah you're gorgeous. She got a she got rogo like what you ain't got a drink for what girl you look. I mean you all girls gorgeous. But what I'm saying is like water. Fuck you alcoholic looking. If I look like you joppy so so I would like to disposition because I got sat on my back yeah. I can't no but it also Marie thousand. That's not because Marie like Oh. You Ain't shout me. That's y'all do the knit. was that going. Have you done it yet. It's going yes she twice yeah yeah we just waiting on Yamazaki on us. It's a great show once Monica our friend yeah robots to know that road and are you in Brooklyn. No I moved to grammercy own spots and we uh-huh q.. Let me say some about when they put away bitch I think she told me I think I can and and that was all she wrote me while the rest I've been at the same spot paying. Five dollars wisened place a here's the thing where's this coming rent controlled rent control is different town right control control. The lottery won the lottery because mine is also Rick Israel other nicotrol people. We'll live nearby. I don't pay rent control. My Ridge just comes down lines rent controlled. I got it through a broker so I paid I found a broker who had access to rent controlled properties and I was like all pay the broker fee if you can get me control department or man no no and the landlord is like one of the worst landlords in the city apparently out but it's a nice place yeah you might meal whenever you want come over whenever she the case. You said he was gonNA give I have. I have one set of keys and then there's another set that I just like. Is this your first. I'm on my own kind of place. No I lived by myself. I self before my last relationship. I missed it. God it's Shit. What are you meant? Shake it everything every part of it like my fucking. I looked at my pantry this morning. It's like all gummy bears and I was like this is disgusting. I and I'm like this is what it's about. You know what I mean. The fact that you've gotta pay a tree already till here pan-german cabinets but that was the worst when I call it Pantry Charlie over here legally not grammercy. It's dragging me on twenty-second while I can't don't yeah please because it'd be dealership junior but I will tell you this. Living on your own is so that I never wanted to do. Oh my God why I be around. I love being around people neighbors I would them come over and you'd be living there yourself if you look up and the lower house hours later. I don't like people to lead I like but I love being a home. I love entertaining at home yeah. That's why I'm like. If you fucking. You'RE GONNA be my house at any time but only people trust here I. I don't like if you've been to my house. See My house and I trust you. I like you because these people I just don't want. We've very big about energy going through. The House. Got My prayer roles. I I got a little <hes> vowel left of <hes> cooking. All of my grandmother prayed over and since she's gone I'm like I'm using it like the little cordial at <hes> in <hes> <hes> <hes> the chronicles a Narnia man when he gave it a it'll Kordula she could revive anybody from death yeah Def. She had a little teeny dry and she did. That's how I use it like like. I'll give you half a prayer but there's gotTa last because it's happening on the left that she taught yeah. We've been using it. I haven't used it in a while. It's got to be emergency like you know it's gotTa. Be You know some your grandmother died. Why not I mean and then I'll how she she says she's talking about the data time this heat though who oh that's all the run A._C._p.? My beal don't worry about she'll go mom yeah. I got a full ASS Nigga in my house I cannot I'm running you my ace I. I'm not going to say anything as it's moving and we actually have to cut part. There's somebody excuse me a man <hes> thereby Rafer me young for me. It's supposed to be a hot girl summer. You okay it 'cause y'all still relatively young what is tell me what had girls some of means in city boy so what does that. I have no idea what that means never heard that no one knew what appears as the age end or is it on a whole doesn't call Sydney talk about it but I didn't know what the fuck she was talking about okay. Can you explain it to us so we can talk about it. This is what I will say you know. 'cause I feel like you got to come up with your own definition issue for you but <hes> hot girl summer is empowering thing like apple away from the word that you know what I'm saying and so you see who created it women came from like city girls. What's the girl real name body buffy the body style that kind of thing of light? You know you know F- These dudes we're going to do ourselves and is their hat girl summertime where you don't feel good and whatever however you want to do so you just balancing or a bunch of well. That's why I say you have to create your own definition right. We got to see what works for you but would also. Let's know what the main definition could be like you bouncing on one. It ain't no strings and you also like I'm on all you nothing. You'll only nut that because I'm doing me still so we could be that too yeah. I gotta be a bunch of digs. That's crazy. 'cause I mean if it's here's the thing if it's no strings. Why wouldn't it be a bunch of day well? Maybe you just WanNa have one in other ones. Just feed you come on this basketball team air by the point Garfield different different positions hello in the last year. I have been with more men. Oh my God. I don't WanNa hit it might not honestly you know but that's still a low number. I'm still I'm still this guy this number nine. I just don't understand I don't want women feel ashamed about having as much sex anybody else and I get it because everybody's teaching our kids and Blah Blah Blah and it's like why are you gonNa make somebody feel good feel bad about doing stuff to everybody. Yeah everybody is doing or Y'all might be doing worse. I'm also it's <music>. I feel so good when I have like six boyfriends. Okay look at that I can't I don't have the time when I say boyfriends I mean I call them my boyfriend's once. I've looked like you're my boyfriend. I also have five more of you. Just say now next time you see me. I'll be engaged what I wanted my life. You want to have a rotation. I want to be engaged. Oh Meteo over rated. You're you don't get it. There's a time in your life okay when you go. I want to do this and then have some casino now and I'm I don't. We don't know what's happening here. I have no idea but now like but now what it is like you you're you go away from that person in this still a connection right. There's still alike own apart like I don't know it's hard to explain like the way I know my mom is always there while she's on earth and alive and my aunt is always there while she's on earth and alive. I know that he's there okay to that. You know right and it's just it feels like feels good. It feels like home nice. Just have someone it feels like really comfortable like <hes> you know last night. He was working on something. I was working on so there was just like oh great like he's here like you know and the you know he's doing his thing and I'm you know doing my thing and apple like that's the gentle part but then you know like to Jen life life gets complicated so that's the part because it has to be worth it you know and for me it has to be. I just my my has to be easy. I don't want drama. I don't WanNA complications so like I don't know if that's even if as impossible yeah I don't think I don't think it's like you can't can't avoid complications. You avoid drama but you can't avoid complications like my last relationship. It was pretty drama free you know complication free and not at all but even the break-up was like really drama free. I was is like this isn't working. Let's break up before we hate. Each other or car was that and that was that sounds mature. Yeah I want nothing to do with anyone. That was inside me that John just walked in to talk to you by the way right after the break we're GONNA we're going to be wrapping up at a few minutes. That's hot hot girl summer okay. That's I guess I'm having and then also Google 'cause they. Can you have if you in not when you know yeah no yeah no. That's not a high girl awesome. That's why it's just told you you different. You're supposed to be out here just going out to girls having a good time chilling. I mean I'd be doing that. What does bring some if I look like that? Now my girl field at yeah. We've been doing that for years single shit just our here girl just go on nomo vacations none of my friends vacate by myself or with a man if it ain't that on it I'm going with my girlfriend's. I'm much traveling. I've been in it. I've been in a thing you've been locked out this. I mean you've been lockdown since I known you yeah. It's so funny because you came over here and the start of your relationship remember you own here you to start your relationship yeah and now you want here. I was probably like vinyl that's probably two years in it though he will just one here was he had a transformative episode with him great. It was like in a way where it's like <hes> you listened listened. 'cause I'm like this inappropriate like he called me. There's something very beautiful about him and I get I don't want to say but it was something beautiful to the point where you know some people surprisingly enough. Even I'M GONNA ask all a lot of times some people actually they have whatever regard for themselves in such a way where I go. Oh I can't do all of me right now right so it was just like an and I had developed over time and I'm talking about just in terms of like <hes> you know I have gotten better and better and better than stronger and stronger as a comic and no I'm at the point in my life that no matter where do I believe I should be a lot further than I am absolutely but no matter where I am I go on stage and I'm like I get off stage and I'm like Damn Bitch. You will fly shit you. You know like we just had a great time. People had a great time. It was just so much said so much done <hes>. I'm really proud of myself so there's been a growth with me in terms of comedy which is also. I'd have to be very careful because <hes> i. I think I do this better than anybody. I talked to all levels of comics. I've always been like that from Nigga starting yesterday or wanting to start in a week to Donegan's been doing sixty seventy eight years coming. I know the complete bandwith of comics yeah in that regard and I've never been like right you know toot my nose up <hes> but but I'm glad for the relationship I have what comics yeah I'm glad for because I I look at it. I go wild a lot of people do respect me as a comic you know and really that's all we can ask for that. We get into a career and that we don't fuck up that career in terms of like some people you know there's probably some doctors out here. They like why wouldn't go get. You've got to get you get you go bled out. Smith right there but it to be like you know. I think I'm the I think I'm definitely a comic referred comic. I'm a lot of work that I have gotten has been because people like me like working with me and respect what I do and they go. Hey you know someone said we'll blow you be perfect. Oh thank thank you thank you. I've done that a lot <hes> and that worry about representation to. I always tell them like you're going to get it through people that you know like comics help each other out more than anyone. I think you know what thousand percent and God lies like another flat came here that Charlie come here. Don't scare the children. We've been here for our. It hasn't issues issues and you know what does this around the cats too. I promised he's not going to hurt you baby. I mean he been through some the first couple of times I was around him how we used to be used to see do you like we just so good fans besties now both Rosebud and I want to Child Guy. Just wait. Please uh-huh okay. You're right. You're right yeah. I do like no honestly super rational him yet. You still smart that makes sense sweet. Is there any way that we could get some type of a summer event going. We should like at the park. Let's do a game on the game now. I'm saying outside game. We don't come on. We don't have time for this another. They'RE GONNA do Mitch Newham sitting down. Got Somebody in your apartment your everyone's busy busy. We're not GONNA do Event Planning Oh my God. We not out but we might listen. It's a nice idea. It is text us. The idea about listen summer is still young. I have a hope that we can do Lisa Picnic in the park with comments my thank you know 'cause we're closing up now but just to close up right <hes> for where we started with the with the breakdown of sort of comedy and comedy relationships to ending in a positive note there at the end of the day their friendships in families in comedy. Absolutely there are times when people I mean a meaning I had fallen out <hes> that was rough and we really fell out on twice twice uh-huh I can honestly I have nothing but love the Yemen. I believe that's what we keep coming back. Together is fun. Oddity is my boo. I can't let the house I need to combine more sue traveling you all in Jamaica over here you doing this show. Now you big time the L._A.. Pilots Shit this one L._A.. Policy Shit nobody's here for me. You got a cat says that's how you know. Growth happens when you go shit. Oh everybody busy right. I love it. I love seeing it. I love being at this phase and you see and everybody I one trader for nothing well. That's what is supposed to be goodbye and that's why we saw in but I but to that point. I also see like you know like body. McFarland just had her spotlight on this week at the seller Jessica curious and just taped her special like there are comics comics who are older and season and Robin killing it. Yeah million special comes out on Tuesday Yeah Yup. What is it called angry single black female okay? I don't WanNA laugh. I don't WanNa line but you haven't seen it. She's been posting about it you ever seen it. I Miss Patches got varieties top ten. She's like an older. You know what I mean Yeah Yeah. That's also working on a AH television. Show homeboy told me about that. It's called single black female comedy dynamics. Oh yes album then oh yeah Amazon prime now that I knew that I knew okay that I knew the Amazon prime video says apple dish comcast is going to share it. I thought it was album okay and she's having a view and party. Okay mic blow the problem with instagram after after a while. Would you have a Lotta friends that like yeah you gotta like on follow people all the time. Just just your friends and I need to start on following regular as people that I saw so I can see my friends because I adair soda has he's taken his H._B._O.. Special and I almost didn't even know about that so like this to stay in tuned Nelson you to stop just looking at my own instagram which is usually practice look at my story several times. How would you know that your what you're doing? If you don't look at it I guarantee you definitely wasn't there I was doing. I constantly constantly looking at my instagram all the time. It's disgusting. That's why I think people I've grassroot grown my instagram. I mean I've had a few hits here there but I've grasping grow my instagram and <hes> it has been from and what do i WanNa see and then I put up what I know I wanna see I know the people that like me and follow me. WanNa see certain things yeah so I think it's good to you know be self aware and check on yourself and as long as it's not it doesn't become obsessive right <hes> and delusional. I think it's fine and you know I'm always in an emotional growth spurt. Sometimes I'm doing well sometimes. I'm not sometimes I'm sticky so I'm very moody. Give yourself grace. I told my mom that I'm moody unlike other. I said to worry about what's wrong. No more girls a new day. What you're going to do what you not going to do? That's when I need to adapt that it's a new day. 'cause that'd be bringing yesterday. Shit Hell No oh yeah I don't do that all wake up a brand new person when I wake up I'll go to bed with a certain understanding of how life works and then I'll wake up next day and I just forgot whatever the fuck yeah and now it's like a whole new set of rules. If I get superfan now take a nap. Yes a new day after day. EAT taken up call a friend. Those are my three three things that I have to do if I'm feeling sad and I don't know why I call a friend I take a nap and I eat Joe and then I'm good rejuvenate. It's always one of those new day in day. E take a nap call a friend <hes> I I mean a working people find you. Oh <hes> Amini money everywhere so my website Amini money dot Com instagram Amini money twitter Amini money facebook Amini money on my perform every week at the factory in Brooklyn <hes> <music>. I'm being fairly soon I got oh I gotTa Comedy Fest One Boise Idaho coming up <hes> so yeah I post all of that stuff in the information so check it out Chacao Amina Amani at Amini. A month got a podcast to before nine and then my sister told me as Zinger told me since I did JOE PODCAST my line. Oh you don't drink wine. You drive this year this whole year. Oh you you do something with some sparkling a mock okay yeah house and everything was on my phone. It wasn't what is it that you asked me to be so I'll know but I'll do it. You asked me you know I would've been been there. I would have been been there. Oh my God at Rosebud you either have heard her on the episode episode before apple after what reminding where they can find you <hes> come see me headline levity live in West Nyack on August twenty ninth yes yeah I need people out for that so fucking. Oh no no. You Ain't gotTA worry about that. Liberty live they get jumping. They made it. We're not empty. It's fucking sad so please come out to that being said. Let's go ahead with just you can find it. <hes> tickets on levity live west nyack yeah whatever just Google that ladies and gentlemen I am headlining <hes> my first New York feeder headline <music>. I gotta get tickets. Please because I'm taking my new booze working on the fly right now because I'm going to do I am at Grandma's Theater August twenty third please. I don't go fuck. If you like me. Tell somebody that you think does would I need this place to be sold out wrote. It is grammercy theater August twenty third New York City <hes> I have just locked down Jessica Kerstin to open for me. I love her ride it and if you.

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