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The Final Furlong Podcast
"graham wally" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"And like a level of expectation. So if going back to the point, if Willie has kind of found the key to managing that expectation in a diplomatic way that these high net worth individuals are happy to work with them and happy to fork out the big events of money, then fair play to Willy because that's an attraction as well. There's definitely owners that like working with particular types of trainers. They'll definitely be owners that will have horses in particular stables because of that. But none of them will be flippant about it. And you know, if they go to children and they don't win, they'd be devastated. Absolutely devastated. You know, so I don't want to be kind of speaking up for them because they are kind of out of reach to most of us. But at the same time, the ones that I've met anyway are racing Matt, like they're absolutely obsessed by it. And luckily in life, they're kind of performers, high performers and have excelled and are now investing in competitive sport. Well, everything you've said there just made me think of Graham Wally. Who obviously nowadays. Graham left racing because of the death of Nicholas canyon and he lost another horse as well. And I remember meeting him at the Dublin racing festival. Nicholas canyon had died at the libertarian Christmas meeting. And he was still shook, but he was still shocked by it. When you own a horse and there is the balls of owning a winner, right? Is incomparable to landing a touch. There are two different things and I've done both, right? And I've been lucky, lucky enough to the level that I would have been at or would be at in terms of ownership outside all about Sunday, would be you would be buying young horses with a view to selling them, right? So you know, and let's see if we take Don dog on a Wednesday or don't talk on a Friday night. And you have a two year old that wins a maiden there. Pre Christmas. You get anywhere from 80 grand up for that to go through America, you know, to go abroad. So it will have nothing to do with the prize money that you pick up. The thrill of being able to sell a two year old, which, you know, Sunday have been lucky. We sold one from a two year old winner to king power Sunday sovereign in 2019 for a big check. In fact, there's nothing beats that. That feels different completely different to win in London a 20 grand touch. They're in a different space. And this is why I'm always harping on at lads to get involved in ownership, be it syndicates are singular ownership and to look at it commercially and try to have that sense of fun out of it. But you can imagine losing a horse, you know, Graham Wiley did. And then losing a second horse. I give you slumped into the into the city at nighttime mad depressed. No, you know, he wouldn't have got the city in Ikea. That's fair enough. But, you know, like the man's heart was obviously bursted. You know, and he thought of a done deal, I think. So like, you know, like horses are an incredible thing to get involved in as well. Most of the time it's broken dreams. But then when it does come right, the feeling is just unreal. And you know, Barry would give bet that the odd plug, and you know, I do the same for all about Sunday dot com, get involved, and you can feel and enjoy a different type of experience. And that's what these guys have. And you know, I would have met Tim O driskell for a cup of coffee over the summer and I came as horses in a couple of different yards, but he would definitely get on well with Gordon and he would have a preference for his horses to be in Gordon's yard. And that suits Tim and that suits Gordon in terms of their style. And the types of horse that they look for. Put your heat just this man about it as the rest of us are. And you're kind of thinking guys and insurance mogul and is this and his dad and the others of butchers loves his racing, absolutely loves it. It is a different pose like I don't like I don't have horses I had shared in a couple of years ago but I always have greyhounds myself and I don't do myself on a train to myself and so you can relate to it open yeah there's no better cause. Yeah. And like if they hit the front down the back straight the floor to save for your mind is money it's just a completely different ball. You know that way. One way I continue. Absolutely. And what do I own and watch us cross a hair on his tail? But I've been thinking I've been thinking about children. I've been thinking about how that Carl cup is going to be run and dreaming about what it's going to be like being there on the day. Correct? And just playing Champions League football for one moment in your life. Do you know what I mean? And when you're into it for a small amount or you're on the whole thing, you're still playing Champions League. And that's the end. And that's the end of it. When loser draw on the day, you were involved at the highest level of sport. And that's the most enjoyable factor of it. And you know, and you look at the lam press situation and the owner there would be absolutely broken hearted. In his mind, every morning he was driving to work, he was replaying the 2023 gold cup over and over in his head, you know? And that's the, that's the fun of it, and that's the downside of it. But you're damn right, Emma. It would be a small share. Fact. But you're still playing Champions League. And it's your share? And you have to and you have that connection to the horse and you're talking to your friends about it and your family about it. I'm going to tell them. And I've got a, I've got a hair and a resource who's running in the car. There's not many people can say that. That's what the great thing about syndicates is that it is opening it up more. And it's giving people more access. And I know they talked on Sunday about and Sam Hoskins was highlighting it yesterday as well. The frustration with tickets and being able to get tickets for that is definitely something to be a Cheney to look at. But there is nothing like being involved in the ownership of a racehorse to give you a greater understanding and that greater emotional connection to it. And if you then, if I go back to Greenwich, the reason I was mentioning him was when he was involved in the racing game, he was a regular on the final for long. We spoke to him so many times and he gave us a very unique insight, including sharing with us that when you're an owner at the Willie Mullins yard. And they're off to the sales, whichever sale to this. It's first come first serve. If Willie is going out there to buy a race horse, they'll send out a message and say, here's who we've bought and whoever is the first one in with the offer to buy them. That's who gets it. And the reason that's so interesting is get a bird didn't fulfill his potential. But Graham could have had get a bird. Only that rich Richie looked at him and said, well, they both got the message at the same time. They were both sending beside one another and Graham said, I sure you go on. And he was kicking himself because he could have, at the time, he looked like he was going to win the supreme. But somehow, Willie is able to be a very fair. He's not being biased because it would have been so easy for Willie's just go this and rich you're the big owner here. Here you go. No, it was none of that. Everybody gets the opportunity to buy the racehorse and it's up to you to be the first one in. Well, it has to be like that because you wouldn't feel too good if you said, look, but rich turn them down. I'm only touring them down. Now you can have them. Just finishing up on that talk about high level sport and the boys you'd get. Imagine being all even Tony like, he gets to play in the Premier League and he gets to have a bet on himself. Didn't get any better than that. You know what
The Final Furlong Podcast
"graham wally" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"Your over brave man's game. I just makes me even more excited for the condo star no this is Chase. That's going to be a cracking race. Because you know brave lens game is going to be favorite. Yeah, until all that northern money starts coming in from and then. That Ned Stark money starts to start rolling in. Not all. Links. Links start getting stuck in. Far out delay. So I'm a massive vanilli fan and thought he was absolutely brilliant in the potential race. And his down royal form has already been franked in the dream more last week. And of course, he's won his second start of offenses. Antarctic lane is the horse who beat vanilli limerick last year. And he got into the winters and closure for Gordon, as part of his 7. Beating blue Sari. So he looks like a chaser. Most of the gigant horses, that's exactly what they're built for everything and again, they have a juvenile hurdler in their midst, but it looks as though chasing is going to be the name of the game with him. He's beaten blue sorry. And in the end, did he do it comfortably enough for you? Yeah. Look closer. I really fancy him for I think a fancy name for the champion bumper a couple of years ago. He run really well and I think did he finish second in the champion bumper blue serum? Didn't he nearly beat envoy? Nearly London, didn't he? Is it yeah? So yeah, look, obviously garden had a great day. He couldn't do anything wrong. Don't know whether he. Spoke to any cheltenham prices or what, but look, it looked like it was only doing enough on me. He was just pretty serious in front and obviously blue Sari was at the switch and he was nearly getting there. But he was all well and I always liked blue sorry, so I think probably it was a good performance without being anything or excited about. It's important to point Gordon is adamant he needs not just soft. He needs it heavy. Yeah, that's the thing yet. It's like all this farm has been on heavy ground in this. Yeah. So he's mentioned limerick, which is the chase getting another mention. By the way, a big problem is that when the ballet, the potential race, the one of the. Massive, I've heard of the a from the point to point circuit. And I remember being told he was a stone cold, solid moral for limerick. And even though he was beaten, I remember thinking that horses are going to win a nice race. I didn't expect him to bolt up in the potato race, but I'll hold my hands up and say, yeah, it was on him. It was fantastic. Amazing stuff. But it's a horse that's been won by some good horses over the years. Black Hercules, ha ha ha, yeah, I know Patrick completely screwed me over that year. Jesus Christ. Owners of the new don't know oh crap. For those who don't know, Patrick insisted that I not say what the race was. He would tell me, but I had to bleep it out, which I did. So I kept my word. He said that he'd been told by Graham Wally. He was his right in the former. Then, yes, when he won over a shorter trip by panicked and backed him for the RSA. And, of course, he ends up rocking up on the jlt. So I had to I'd say I might have got my steak back by backing him at the jlt. But I was definitely operating at a loss. But not Patrick's fault. You place your you place your you put your own money down and you're responsible for your own money. Yeah, the only person who's responsible for the money that you place in the bet is you yourself. Gento. So the grade two Navin is another for Gordon Elliot, Jamie cart, the aforementioned. He was well backed beforehand. He's beaten Eric bloodaxe. Trashed him by 11 links. Prior to that, he won quite comfortably only seasonally appearance. He's not even beating the once, and that was a fairy house. And from memory didn't he cast or write fuke with his bike walk in the park? 400 and something, was it? A right few quid? You gotta fucking fortune. 470,000 pounds of the queen's finest sovereigns at the and it was trained by Garner. When he won his party, wasn't he? I think he was, yeah. I think he was. So the yard former yard sponsors, northern television, who obviously are still there. In the art, they have gone and invested more. And bought more. But this does look to be because this is one of the unique things about Gordon, according to a point of moisture as well. And Jamie was on board that day. So he would have known because there have been instances where Gordon train point to pointers who then ended up with Willie. Yeah, but were owned by Michael and eddy. So they could have ended up with him. But in the country the most good gray horse of any romance..