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Michigan State's NCAAT chances kaput? Who winds up with No. 1 overall seed? Weekend picks! (College Basketball 01/29)

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Michigan State's NCAAT chances kaput? Who winds up with No. 1 overall seed? Weekend picks! (College Basketball 01/29)

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Then on thursday night gonzaga beat san diego ninety sixty two so the top ring zags sixteen to no second ranked bears fifteen no deadly. Somebody asked me a question on twitter yesterday. So let me present it to you if zaka and baylor both inner selection sunday undefeated. Which team is the number. One overall seed in the ncaa tournament. I- address this exact thing in my power rankings. This week baylor's the number one overall seed. That's not going to be up for too much debate. I don't think baylor will have at that point. Accrued many more quad one wins and road wins tougher opponents in gonzaga. So i don't think it will be up for much debate and that's before you even get into the question of whether or not Those teams have not played in their league tournaments. I think you're right. The question was presented to me about the number one overall seed the instability tournament. And then about whether i would adjust the top twenty five and one and i will not adjust the top twenty five and one i if i will not drop gonzaga from number one unless it loses. And that's been one of my kinda rules since i've been doing this job. I don't punish number one teams unless they actually lose. The only time can remember. Doing it is win duke zairian cam and who was the other guy that played with them. Norlander see if you can remember this time that team duke zay on camera. tish yeah. He's from canada. Third third pick in the draft of first team. All american show trae jones. Trae jones was on that team. But it wasn't him jack white. It was not yet check why it was not the third pick. Javelin delory in the subsequent. Nba draft. His name was started with all our in the next letter was j. rj. They call him rj. Oh i think i've heard this guy You're gonna have to help me with the last name though. Rj bay. That's right that's right that's right. Yeah that was The yeah he was the other player on this. So that's the only time. I can remember dropping a number one team without the number one team. Losing just silly to have anybody other than duke number one after that performance against that opponent on that stage. So i've done it before. But i will not do it. In in this scenario to punish gonzaga without losing would be to punish them. Strictly on league affiliation. And i won't do that but that said you're exactly right. Both schools have five quadrant. One wins right now. But according to the net the current net rankings baylor has six more quad one opportunities in the regular season. Gonzaga has just one so baylor could end up and likely would end up with basically twice as many quad wins as gonzaga. So i agree with you on selection sunday. If both teams are undefeated baylor based on the resume would be number one overall seed regardless of whether the people and the top twenty five one or anything else actually reflects that. Let me ask you this. Are you ready to acknowledge publicly. That baylor kengo go undefeated. It's funny you bring that up. So i do during the second half of every season if you if you want more me There is college basketball podcast content. You can get out there. It's the college sports now. Podcast that i do and The host of that show. Steven hartill brought this up on our episode this week and i told him i was like. You're the first person i've actually heard. Bring this up yet. The idea that baylor could run the table going to feed it. It's obviously you know first person to media. i haven't seen a written about. I haven't really seen a tweet about yet. Because obviously of the strength of the big twelve there. I need to more wins. They're going to win this weekend against auburn. And then they play at texas on tuesday or at least baylor is scheduled to do. So you get there and then i think it can be start to be a real conversation. The road game remaining after that at oklahoma and tournament team at west virginia tournament team in the final game regular season as it scheduled is obviously against kansas. Which is the second toughest game baylor has remaining on an individual basis baylor's projected to win each of these games but taken as a collective here as we speak this morning on. Friday is a fifteen percent. Chance at baylor will run the regular season table. I'm not ready to seriously consider that yet. I wanna see how it does against texas and texas has shocks. Martin courtney ramey and jericho simpson at full strength. That obviously is going to be arguably the best game of next week. So i wrote about this after baylor beat kansas state's brains in on wednesday night and thursday mornings lead to the top twenty five and one and what's interesting is that you're exactly right. I haven't really heard. Many people actually seriously suggest that baylor could really sensible debate to have about whether gonzaga will be undefeated on selection sunday. Like i mean. It can lose you anything's possible but if the question is presented to you do you think zag is going to be undefeated on selection sunday. The only intelligent answer is yes. Whether whether it's accurate or not we'll see but the only intelligent answer is yes with baylor. I think most people would instinctively just saying no because you're going to get caught somewhere. It's the big twelve for crying out loud but when you look at the actual numbers and consider the context. It's not it's not. it's not likely but it's it's way more likely than i think. More people probably understand that baylor will end up with a zero in common selection sunday. Look at last season Went seventeen and one in the big twelve. By definition almost went undefeated in the league with seventeen and one in the big twelve and kansas adjusted efficiency margin was number one in the country. That's why they were going to be the number one overall seed. It was plus thirty point two three and that was four point. Seven four points better than anybody else in the big twelve and they went seventeen and one in the big twelve right now. Baylor's eight now in the big twelve adjusted efficiency. Margin is plus three four point six three better than four points better than what. Kansas was last season. And it's ten point three nine points better than anybody else in the big twelve so they are way better than anybody else in their league and significantly better against the rest of the league then canes was against the rest of the league last season when cases when seventeen and one in the league. Combine that with the fact there are no hostile environments. You would think in a normal non pandemic year. they'll get caught at allen. Fieldhouse get caught at west virginia. They'll get caught in oklahoma and they might they might. But you're not running into normal road situations there so they're going to be double digit favorites in six of the final ten games in the league in favored by at least five points in every remaining game. I think it's again not likely but very possible. Baylor i are both sitting with zero. The loss column on selection sunday. And then however you want to see them they're both one seeds obviously just put him on opposite sides of the bracket and let's hope they meet in indianapolis. Well that's the exact hope. So i had a few radio interviews on thursday and baylor came up as they often do. Because they're the two most dominant teams and the The irony of all of this is that scott drew and mark few got together. I wanna say it was in the middle of august and basically said. Let's get this done. Let's play each other because the pack twelve voted to not allow men's basketball until january. One a decision that was of course reverse later on but gonzaga lost three games against pac twelve opponents. Baylor lost A schedule game. Against a i think it might have been washington i. I can't remember who it was doesn't matter anyway. The the point is they were like j barrett. They were supposed play. Rj barrett Come on duke so anyway So with all of this you had gonzaga and baylor few andrew saying let's get it done. You know we can be the top two teams in college basketball. Be great for the sport. Why not have a situation where we play other non conference they scheduled to do so and that couldn't happen because of covid nineteen and now the game scheduling it Doesn't seem possible in the regular season here so because of that we deserve gonzaga baylor. We were promised gonzaga baylor but the only way we're going to get canoga. Baylor is in the final game of the season. If we can get there it'll be absolutely terrific. The chance of of that unfortunately aren't great. They're not impossible. But i'd have to. We'll have to see what the records are when we get there. The chances of and baylor both making the title game though will be both of them. I easily under twenty five percent. So i hope we get it but you know it's it's unfortunate that never got in the regular season we couldn't Use that is. Is you know the build up to The tournament but the fact that we didn't get it by the way also allows us to potentially have a rarity Which almost never happened. That's two undefeated teams entering the tournament undefeated. I don't know if you saw it but sportsline ran the ncaa tournament. I assume based off of jerry palm most recent projected bracket they simulated at ten thousand times in gonzaga one at like thirty five percent of the time and baylor fourteen percent of the time so literally like right at fifty percent of the time. Ten thousand simulations two thousand twenty one inches away tournament either gonzaga or baylor won the title. So it really is at this point. A reasonable question gonzaga baylor or the field and we discussed this recently. Did you still said field. Are you still holding onto field. Are you ready to flipped again. Saga baylor no. I'm going. I'm still holding onto the field now. We're asked me this again Week a week before selection sunday. And we'll see the field is still this wiser bet. This is too many variables. The field is still the better bet. The more likely outcome is that you know. Sixty six teams not named gonzaga. Baylor will win it. But we're clearly getting their the. The gap is six between those two and the teams below it In predictive metrics iowa houston michigan villanova. Virginia all teams that by the way and win it. And and i actually. It's interesting. I talked to my younger brothers on thursday about this. We just got to talking about the tournament and teams and stuff. Like that. And i told him i said listen when you do your bracket pool this year even if gonzaga and baylor have one loss combined when we get to start at the end with tournament if you want a good value play you know michigan and iowa villanova were alabama the way these teams look right now. They're good enough to win the ncaa tournament. So what actually might have in your in. Your bracket pool is a situation. Where whether it's ten people in it or one hundred people in a heavy percentage of those people are going to take jagger baylor because we're going to be the best teams but you actually are going to get an interesting situation here where you could take another one. See to win your pool and it's a great value play so keep that in mind a little bit of advice going forward there. I would still take the field. I feel like taking. The field is wildly disrespectful. Okay to you also thought it was disrespectful against a mick cronin last week who Who proved to be human. So i thought that was too little. I thought the line was too little but it wasn't wildly disrespectful. To the first lady baillie basketball. Kelly drew not to mention mckinsey. Payton brody dru homer in janet bryson. Tara doesn't care. little bryce drew drew carey. Dr drew drew barrymore. Drew bledsoe andrew lees breeze okay. They're all you'd being disrespectful to all the druce all day did you get the doctor. Turn there by the way dr drew. He's disrespected disrespected. The current of is early on so if you disrespect one drew you disrespect all the druze. So disc showing disrespect to scott and kelly drew doubles as showing disrespect to drew barrymore. Dr drew okay. We're power ranking of some druze before before we have already. I looked at all up drew. Barrymore is number one drew. Barrymore is the number one true That's what that's what. I would say i would say i prefer for this cash. I guess it would have just preferred that. You just rattled off a bunch of off the top of your head because frankly that's whittier and that's that's better but instead you've got like seventeen google doc. Right now you're reading off of loses a little bit of its luster. Sam saying you have no idea. How many do. I have listed here. I google top. Most famous people named drew. I mean i did my homework. Wait wait till we get to the final four and one. This is why i can't get. This is why. I'm always running behind. Because i start prepping for this podcast and my mind takes me in different places and i end up doing thirty minutes of research on something that does not matter at all. I'll identify later on this podcast. I wasted thirty minutes on thursday night looking up things that. If i never even mentioned him it wouldn't manner but now i'm prepared to talk about them at linked. If we have to go all right what are we gonna. Next rutgers beat michigan state on thursday night for the first time ever congrats to steve. Pikal rough stuff tom izzo. We'll talk about that next. Plus maybe ranked some more druze. But i check out support for this podcast comes from lexus. Maybe you're an aficionado easter. A foodie or a sneaker head but no matter what you're into it pays to go all in because the greater the obsession the greater the reward. That's why lexus went all in on the sport sedan by designing the new lexus. I s it's the result of an unwavering obsession that left. 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So rockets beat michigan state on thursday night for the first time. Ever the final score norrland rucker sixty seven michigan state. Thirty seven it was michigan state's first game since january eighth. Needless to say did not go well. First win for rutgers over michigan state. The history of the world so michigan state is now eight and five overall two and five in the big ten splendor sixty. I can palm hundred i in the net. Oh and four in quadrant opportunities to and five in the first quadrant norlander. Are you ready to pull the plug on michigan. State tommaso about to miss the ncaa tournament for the first time since nineteen ninety-seven. Are you ready to call it like your fox. News in michigan state is arizona. So boy look at you. We're getting there. you said. Ninety seven right nineteen ninety-seven man. You so that's obviously the third longest streak only duke which is in jeopardy right now since ninety five ninety six and kansas since ninety or ninety one have longer streaks right now side note. I was digging through some old. Dm's like just the past few months. Actually here's how old they are I'm going to put this in the in the context. Tweet i just had someone. D- emmy i might have brought this up on a recent podcast but i can't remember i still have the screenshot. Dm that simply said rutgers older than america. Because i think it went back to when we were talking about the oldest conference oldest schools in the conference and the fact that someone was just like. I'm going to new norlander rutgers. Older americans just like what. It's from october. Thirtieth so good as from michigan state. Oh boy this was hideous hideous stuff. It's looking bad it is looking like you know we talk about nine ten bits coming out of the big ten. It is quite honestly almost impossible to fathom or envision a world in which you have ten bids come out of the big ten and one of the teams that doesn't get one of those bids is a tom. Izzo coach michigan state team but two and five in the league it's only sitting perched ahead of winless nebraska and two in six penn state as we speak here on friday morning at eight and five overall. I mean it's ugly. What do you want me to say at this point. It's right now. According to tour fix projections michigan state has a two point nine percent chance of making the nwa tournament for comparison rhode island which is basically a five hundred program at this point is at six point seven percent. So it's there's a lot that michigan state needs to do. It needs to turn this thing around in a hurry. It's got a game at ohio state this weekend at iowa then it gets to go into pinnacle thankfully and get a reprieve no matter what happens next scheduled law. That's what they call a scheduled law for the cornhuskers. That's correct so. I don't think that. I don't think michigan state Is completely out of it. I believe we did. Our dribble handoff this week on teams outside the top fifty in the net rankings. That were our picks to make the incidentally tournament despite their current standing in the net. I went with smu which got to win over your tigers on thursday night. Strong jaw kyle. Boone opted to co with michigan state. Mistake that was not ideal whatsoever and at this point. Yes the spar spartans. Okay go ahead. That's the problem with having a strong jaw. Give you false confidence to say things like michigan. State's gonna make the tournament. Why don't you ask who. Gp with rutgers glimpse clemson which immediately went out and beat louisville and beat is. Uh yeah. I mean that was. That was a hideous game. He was gordon what they've scored more points than their opponent. And that is how you record a win in the sport of basketball that's correct. That's exactly what rutgers did by the way on thursday night sometimes sometimes people ask. How do you become a college basketball insiders in. It's the answer. Is you have to know things like the key to winning. A basketball game is to score more points than the other team. And that is what clemson did against louisville two nights ago. That's correct that's michigan state. Shot twenty look at these numbers michigan state. Twenty eight percent from the field twenty percent from three and twenty percent from the free throw line against rutgers they always show five free throws re. Gm telling you. I just turned the game off after a while it was just. It was twenty-one turnovers eight assists five for throws what. How do you do that in a basketball game. I mean i understand. It's technically possible but it's highly unlikely to pull that off. How how do you have a hall of fame coat. It usually five free throws turnover. Twenty one time. Get eight assists that. I bet. that doesn't happen in michigan. State was coming off. You know twenty days. Three three weeks worth of over pause. That's obviously a factor here. But you know to be clear. I went on. Cbs sports hq on thursday. Got asked a few games and i was like. Oh gimme gimme michigan state. Rutgers rutgers has never beaten sparty here and they'll be a they'll be raring and ready to go wasn't the case whatsoever important win by the way for rutgers which is trying to Keep its own bona fides to make the tournament on a respectable level so that was a necessary home win for for. Are you and good on them. But the biggest stories michigan state. Just because it's more this. Also adds to the weirdness of this unique season. When we discuss you know kentucky's completely off the map entirely now. Duke is far from a guaranteed to make the ncaa tournament. And you've got michigan state here. Carolina has picked it up as of late and done Done some decent suffer itself but it still has plenty to prove so no shortage of of teams with proud recent histories finding themselves in a rut. This season and this might have been one that Unfortunately toppled the table on michigan state. It's still going to get some wins going forward but is it going get enough. I don't know this was This was so eye opening that either Is on that staff are going to be able to turn around and make it interesting and turn michigan into a bubble team or this might just become a law season for msu been a historic week for rutgers for the fighting quincy dube's. They won at indiana. On sunday i win ever inside assembly hall. And then they beat michigan state for the first time on thursday. they were previously. Oh and twelve against the spartans they now projected to be in the instability tournament according to everybody who project such things including jerry palm ruckers of course has it made the tournament since nineteen ninety one so that would eliminate a big big drought Real quick on that though so rutgers thirty four in the net as we speak here it's one in four against quad One four against the top level of its quad one opponents but Basically you know top fifteen but i guess a quad one four and five so it's doing okay there quad to one and one and then it's in the same range of all the results based metrics and the predictive metrics So it's doing okay for itself but yes they're still it's not safe by any means it's got to continue to win home games which did beautifully last season And if it can do that yes it's going to be. It's going to be in there. That was a that was a big time result from from thursday one. Other quick one from thursday gp that i wanted to mention if talk about teams that that got win the needed to get a win. That was stanford winning at arizona. Stanford is it's out west. It's not a sure fire tournament team. So it hasn't received a pub. And i get all that but is stanford has has pretty much picked up the two most important back to back wins alongside rutgers as maybe anyone in the country because this is a team that just finally like a couple of days ago california back to restrictions with kovic. Santa clara county is now allowing the schools is i mentioned in the previous podcast stanford san jose state. There's a third one. I can't remember but anyway R r j barrett is the stats exactly but the point is this so stanford goes in It beats arizona earliest season for the first time against shawn miller co shares on a team shawn miller had never lost a sanford prior season now. Arizona's been swept and like bracewell's is still injured and then zaire williams who might be a lottery. Pick this year and dejean davis. Who's a senior. They have not been playing and it's not tied to cove so there's a weird. I don't know what's going on there. I'm not sure why they haven't been playing. But they're not gonna play against arizona. State on saturday either. Three of arizona stanford top six players not available the cardinal wind both games ten and five overall six and three in the league. Those were necessary. Now you play down arizona state team. That's kind of a tricky one. But i did wanna give the west coast a little bit of love here. the cardinals getting goodwin's while not being fully stocked and who's to say if and when they're going to be So just keep an eye on that going forward because that team is good enough actually win a tournament game. If fit can get there the question just becomes if those players Inevitably come back to the team. And i don't know we haven't been given a reason for why they haven't been available. Hopefully all is okay relatively speaking but it is notable that they've been able to win with those guys i love arizona's arena setup. I well. I also brought that up because i saw you tweeted i. It's like it's the cleanest i've seen really. I think it's good. I don't know if it's like you know so far beyond other ones. I feel like dukes pre-cleaned setup as well you think arizona's notch i. I was visually aroused by it. Okay that's good. I mean if you wanna be. Visually aroused by college. Basketball arena setups. I ain't gonna stop you. Think it's got the clean backdrop relative to the camera angle. They got the cardboard cutouts which i enjoy. I pay attention this stuff. I pay attention to what arena setups. Look like dukes is good. Arizona's cleanest the one that bothers me. Every time i watch him. arkansas. I love the snout but they've got these tarps over seats. And the and the wrinkle miller ankle is colorado state. Had a little bit of a wrinkle going onto the wrinkles. Drive me crazy. Yeah like i hate those. Somebody get up to fix that. Why can't somebody fix that. Just is are you. Are you the type. That's gotta make make the bedroom. Susie wake up kind of deals. Zero correlation here. no. I don't have to make the bed but everything has to be straight like i. If i were going to be in my bedroom all day long. I would have to make the bed. Whatever room i mean has to be cleaned and everything has to be straight and where it's at so the cleanest room in our house seven days a week twenty four hours a day is my office because it is where i spend much of my time and so i cannot start working until like if there's anything out of place i can't start working until i get everything where it needs to go like nintendo switch controllers have to put up if there's a coffee mug from yesterday that needs to be taken out of here. Everything has to be papers on my desk. Have to be organized. I'm real like ocd. About i can't stand to look at things that are unorganized or or messy. This goes back to when i was a child. I'd collect baseball cards and i would. I would organize them every day. Just for a total waste of time. But i just needed everything to an order after. I tweeted that picture last night. Somebody pointed out that it they do they do like arizona's arena setup up but that the a on the tarp in the background is not centered with the a on the court and once i noticed that as well it probably me it was Became a problem. i'm willing to. I don't know about overlook it. I'm but i'm i'm willing to deal with because everything else is great. There's one place in my house where it is. Structurally not centered. And i notice it every day. And i promise you nobody else who's ever been in my home as ever noticed it but i notice it every single day. That kind of stuff does bothering them. And i do hear you on the tarp like shipshape like taught tarp like at taught nice and get it around the seats. Nice and clean flat. No wrinkles and i taught i go. Go go next arkansas on. Tv look at their wrinkled tarp. I don't know what get your tarps on tight hogs okay. Let's pick some games here. Its final four and one time We remain even steven g people sitting at seventeen and seventeen after last week. What are we starting with saturday. Noon eastern number nine alabama at number twenty four oklahoma inside the willie warren center. You can watch it on. Espn alabama minus worn. By the way. I got some new putting it in posted. Gp can't here. i've got some new bumper music for picking games. it's Good stuff here hoping joining that It's not hope. It's on dave matthews band. No it's not. It's not we would have to pay for it if it was. Dnb i would never pay for anything. The only time i've ever paid for anything connected to. Dnb is that i had to go. I wanted to go see willy. Nelson willy nelson was opening dave matthews band. Yeah well you know what. Dave matthews is so awesome. Willie nelson says you know what you're that good that great of human that great of abandoned will open free so i think that's wildly disrespect. Willie nelson's opinion means more than yours and willie nelson and to the drew family. Like i went and saw. Jason is open for john prime several years ago and at that point in time jason was bigger than john product. Most people there were there to see jason john pry and somebody i remember asking him like. Why are you opening when you're the bigger acting in the year. Two thousand seventeen or whatever and he said. That's john i'm john. Practice not opening for me. I'm opening for john. Prime and i feel like dave matthews behead even a little bit of of of self awareness would say 'i willie nelson cannot open for me. Willie nelson will open for willie nelson. You know. i don't know what you want me to tell you. You're not getting sixty thousand people to show up to willie nelson play at the stage life. The nba bringing the krauts when facts. I understand how it works. I didn't have to agree again. That's david when nine inch nails was at its peak. I saw them open for david. Bowie and at that time ninety tells was probably the bigger draw at that time probably was but i remember to reser saying the same thing like david bowie. David poison opening for us is ridiculous. I just don't understand why. Dave matthews can't be more like jason is born. Trent resume alabama at oklahoma noon. Eastern at the willie. Warren willie warned center there. We go willy war two thousand eight big twelve rookie of the year. now he's now playing professionally in taiwan. Looked it up. You did thirty one years plant in taiwan. I feel like you're heavily. Reliant on pbs. Hopefully the facts are good. Because before i picked this game i mean you've you eft up on trivia time really. Yeah yeah so. I don't want to hear that. How about you own up to your mistake here. How about an apology. I wish you an apology. I said that no team had finished top five and adjusted defensive efficiency that was ncaa tournament eligible and not made the incident tournament. Sex washington state in two thousand and five and a listener of the college basketball pockets accurately pointed out that san diego state did it just a few years ago. It was the same year that i believe. Luvell was self imposed ban from the tournament and finished in the top five and defensive efficiency. I recognized that but failed to recognize that. San diego state was there in misty. Ncaa tournament. So that's that's me. That's me. I'm gonna take that to my turnover disrespectful to the dress. That's unfortunate here. I committed. i'll take oklahoma to win this game at home. Four game win streak. Recent wins over kansas and texas if it can beat alabama. That's gonna be just about as good as any three game win. Streak if not the best three game win streak that anyone can claim so far. This season in college basketball opponents considered their austin reeves has not been as i think reliable from deep as the sooner staff thought he would be this season. Brady manic and gibson have made up for that big time. This is probably the best game of the weekend. I think certainly has the capacity to be that iowa illinois on friday which is right there as well given how bam and oklahoma played. I would just i to me. This is the best one. These two teams playing at the most consistent level as of late and you get as a noon easter tip. I'll take the sooners to this. Is technically a straight up because you said family favored by one. Yes you're wrong here. This is line too little line. This is the classic line too little situation with the crimson. Die ten game winning streak fifteenth and offense efficiency eighth in defense defensive efficiency ninth and tempo alabama's like my favorite team now. I know you said that on the last lot you let you love watching them. My favorite thing is they take so. They're averaging now updated numbers sixty four shots a game. Thirty of them coming from three. They're making on average ten point nine three pointers per game. Three of the top five scorers above forty one percent from three. Got a three game. Lead in the sec. Standings oklahoma has been playing. Well obviously four game. Winning streak became as shorthanded texas. But i will take alabama on the road to extend the winning streak to eleven games and for oklahoma they gotta turn right back around and go to texas tech on mondays. That's a tough today stretch. That's a really tough to day. Stretch all right. What do you got number two saturday. Three pm eastern number three villanova at seton hall inside the her pope center. You can watch it on fox villanova minus four her pope by the way update on her pope since we last talked about him. On the oncology pets after he was arrested for robbing a bank near hometown. I remember this 6-foot-9 famous basketball player just robbing a bank in his hometown. Everybody in the banks is that her pope with a gun over the counter. Sure enough easily identified went to federal prison. He is now out on probation. Got released in two thousand nineteen still on probation for like four more years. Hopefully he's doing okay. I believe his brother who's also a bank robber. I believe his brother's still in federal prison. I'll take villanova skate. On the pope family. I got villain really warned. Playing in taiwan villanova minus four is the tech run out of say villain villanova's two thousand coming off cova break and they beat seton hall last week on an eight game winning streak overall. I'm going with sandro. Billy if alabama is my favorite team mom might be my favorite player seton hall fricken blue that game against creighton. it was horrendous it was just disgusting perish. They had zero business. Losing that game. This is a this is creighton sandwich and villanova's the bread here lost at nova on january. Nineteenth did seton hall lost at home to creighton on wednesday. Now nova comes back again. Nova wins seals right on the bubble like according to palm i four out. According to last four in the big opportunity program has been a four straight. Ncaa tournament you win this one. You're probably on the right side of the bubble according to everybody and then the schedule eases up after this. The final seven games are against nothing but unranked opponent so. This is a big opportunity for seton hall. I'll take the pirates plus the points. Take straight up. I'd say the second hand here. Let's just go Points much just taking plus the point saturday six. Pm eastern number fifteen. Kansas at number eighteen tennessee inside remorse smith arena. Do you know who he is. More man he was all. Sec freshman team. Sophomore season got kicked out of school because he would not go to class and could not pass drug test naming the arena after. Yes okay a bad combination then in two thousand nine. He participated in a home invasion in knoxville. He went from all freshman team to participating in a home invasion. Took six thousand dollars in cash a gun and a half pound a weeds so he raked but he got caught and he had to go to jail just like her pope naming. Okay yeah i gotta take this game man. This was a one month ago. This was projected to be a top ten match up. Both these interesting like these are both teams. That are still good but mildly disappointing Kansas fans would say mildly as putting it to mildly tennessee. I think you have one in the national title in the preseason folk for someone in the national player of the year has johnson my man john vote points down. Shooting percentage down minutes down. What's on the track to tell you what you You were going to sing your song and so we let it be Gp this is this stumper from. I'll take k you. I guess but boy were. Kansas one by eight points against tcu on thursday night and it wasn't score fifty nine i. There's no confidence in this pick whatsoever. Tennessee barely beat it just law mississippi state team. This came at me. I get this game out of my face. Exactly what mississippi state is. Every time i watch date. I'm just like what am i want to forget about it. Not nece power five conference team. That is out there. There's there's it's undeniable. Yeah and some fortunate those church. There's nothing interesting about the mississippi state and that's been the case mississippi. You've always hated. Mississippi state not true. I've no eight for ely. I have. I have my brother. In law and sister in law went to mississippi state. My wife went to ole miss. We have lived. We're spread all around the state. I don't have any think. I have any golden eagles in my family. I'm gonna take kansas and feel terrible about it. I'm taking tennessee at home. Just because i don't even know. Why does the remorse miss. Lena i guess but like both these teams are both. These teams have been uninspiring recently. Neither neither is bad. We're not talking about kentucky. We're not talking about duke when day. They're just both recently kind of whatever so. I'll take tennessee as a home. I guess saturday six pm eastern number. Eight virginia at number twenty for genius tech inside bimbo coles coliseum. You can watch it on the acc network for jinyan minus three. Do you know bimbo. Coles then built holes. I was raised on coal. Not you definitely. Were not raised on bimbo. Coles that that that is a slap in the face to the metro conference. A big fan of the metro. You aren't raised on bimbo coles. Those calls is a nineteen eighty-eight metro conference co player of the year with never nervous purpose ellison out of louisville three time first team all metro conference bimbo called real first name is eugene. Verna verna bemberg hills vernon close to learn. How real is he was named bimbo nicknamed bimbo after the song bimbo that was written in the one thousand nine popular song bimbo written in the nineteen forties recorded in the nineteen fifties. I believe it was a number one. Oh you believe. Do you believe it do you believe. Did you look it up on wikipedia remember correctly. It was if i remember correctly. From what i looked up and we compete thursday night. I believe bimbo was a number one. Hit you know. Other metro player metro conference players of the year. Darrell griffith keith. Lee dell curry clarence. Weatherspoon won it three times. Play all right. Is this what you're alluding to before. By the way. I spent so much time. Metro conference thursday night. Clifford rozier why there are thirteen schools that can accurately describe themselves as former members of the metro conference trivia time. How many can you name. Dead-leg can you name six. Former metro conference members. Just gave it away with these stupid player of the year names. I got him six schools that run the metro at one time or another. How many were there total. Thirteen thirteen thirteen institutions. I gotta ask you described themselves State or the state is one which any attack virginia tech has one. At this memphis's one was raised on metro and bimbo coles arkansas incorrect answer with the south west. Get those wrinkles out of those tops though. Send them back to the metro conference math taught. ta how 'bout Georgia tech georgia tech is an original member of the metro conference. Some at four and five yeses How about I'm thinking already gave you never nervous purpose. Louisville number original member of the metro. How about western kentucky western kentucky the hilltop overnight in the metro conference all right and then how about I'm just. I'm rolling through power conference teams that i know that we're in there. How about told you clarence weatherspoon about you. Don't know clarence weatherspoon. Three time metro conference player. The two we have about what about what about tulsa was not in the metro conference. What about oh. Cincinnati cincinnati is an original member cincinnati. And then. so i'm at six. Let me get one more. And then how about you give me a get one more. That might be might be in there trying to think of anyone in the current eight. Ten have been in the metro. There is one yes in fact. There's two mike guests to current eight. Ten schools were in the metro conference. As i'll say let me help you know not okay. And then vcu bcu. Yes st louis the billikens. The billikens are in the buildings. Were metro conference members. Do you know what it was called the metro conference because all the original members were all in metropolitan area. That makes some sense. Yes for sure okay. Other other metro conference teams to lane two lane southern miss south carolina charlotte south florida and we mentioned. Vcu and we go all right story. time is over. I'm gonna take virginia to win. This game raised on vocals. Haber by three in blacksburg wa. Who's right now. i mean there. They're on top in the acc. They leave florida state by game. Virginia tech is trailing to. If i hope he's fans are hoping and praying for season which they could actually win the acc. Well then you gotta get gotta get this done at home. But i will take virginia to get it done. You're gonna take virginia's well for you to take just suspended their second leading score and secondly rebounder so that's not ideal reached radford radford. Yes when virginia tech beat duke. Mike's chessy said he. That was the best player on the floor and then radford said coach what do you think the next step is and then coach kaye. Snap the headache. Why did you see that it happened. Google it let's go come on So you're going to stick with me and take you. Yeah i think so their number twenty and the people for tickets so they're ranked. But i don't have them in the top twenty five to one the fortieth at kim palm forth in the net. They're outside the top thirty five in basically every computer. I think the people just got this wrong surprise surprise surprise. Surprise you not okay with all right fair enough. Can i get to raise them. Visible coles you weren't raised on bimbo. Coles you damn right i wasn't All right i mentioned iowa illinois. That's the friday night game to know to nine o'clock fox. Sports one tip. Then you've got the billikens Playing at richmond. That's earlier in the evening. Six thirty on. Espn two on friday. If you're listening to this game. But i like to give the heads up for the early birds here. That is frankly. That's an urgent game for both teams Going to be a multi leakier but the loser. That game is not gonna put themselves in a desirable position side note The atlantic tennis announced that rich mend will actually be hosting The semifinals in title game of the eight ten tournament. The season the second round in the quarters will be slipped between. Vcu and richmond's us campuses and then richmond will also host the first round. Richmond might need that homecourt advantage if it gets the audit will wait and see and then there's one more game on friday know its boise state at colorado state colorado state one on wednesday night and it's got a real strong at large resume at this point. Boise state is hitting the The real difficult part of its mountain west schedule would be better for the league. Boise state was able to pick off a win on the road. Csu if colorado state were to win that it would really be setting itself up nicely for For large big going forward here. They beat them bad they did. It was and again but the tarp situation not ideal not ideal there in fort collins gotta get that thing taught sound. Let's let's let's clean it up there It's i to be honest to saturday slate. Okay it's not great. We don't have a great weekend of college basketball here. Will we say it like it is. Sunday is It could be so much better considering. There's no nfl Before the saturday game to pick there's really not a ton to be interested in frankly with no one fell and not all. i mean. We've got a one o'clock michigan state. Ohio state game on cbs. Obviously everyone should be watching. And then america's most watched networks the network of stars in for the die hards that are into the valley and the small leagues loyalist. Chicago's place at missouri state if the valley is going to be multiple league here Missouri state is going to have to accommodate and drop another home game after getting swept by drake In chicago a win there that's That'll be an interesting plot to follow but other than that just ton of Of intriguing stuff on sunday with apologies to golden gate. Mike who saint john's team's gonna play at marquette. Redstone just aren't in the picture right now. Ask for saturday other games to keep an eye on that. We haven't mentioned clemson at duke is a news tip on. Espn two duke. Needs that wind to keep itself in the installation of conversation. Texas won't have shock as martin plays kentucky so if you wanna do a dry on that. It's an eight o'clock tip on. Espn seven thirty tip on big ten network is minnesota about do Just could be equality. Big ten game against teams. That are clearly in the field at this point and georgia tech has. What is a pretty close to a must win home. Game at four o'clock on the sec. Network on saturday against florida state And of course. Fsu trying to get the win there to keep pace with virginia in the acc. My game will be taking place at two o'clock eastern on. Espn saturday and it's going to be west. Virginia hosting mike white and the florida gators florida. That's one three in a row with wins against tennessee at georgia and against vanderbilt. This is obviously part of the sec. Big twelve challenge. We get some nice non-conference action here into saturday. The line is projected with west virginia. At home obviously coming off that big one earlier in the weekends texas tech. Wvu minus four got taken the mountaineers they enter the game with momentum doesn't exist momentum does exist it does exist. They went ten for ten from the field in the final nine. Thirty five to ruin. Matt mcclain's moms raising. The roof phenomenon was that was definitely phenomenon. What's the word that is that is that is ripe for some some grammar Scolding here definitely not a phenomenon. But you've got the ears at joe missoula coliseum. I understand i would agree with you. We have free on the final two. But i do think that the i picked this one because i thought too i think there a. There's a chance that this might be a straight up upset kind of deal here. Florida certainly has the ability to get it done even though it's operate operating obviously not at a full roster case For a while now. I still think they've got a chance and that one's seems to me like it's got a good shot. Aren't we done here. Yeah i mean we can. We can pretty much be done here if you want to be done. I'm i'm exhausted. All the metro due to yourself man. Like i don't know i don't even know why i did like i even have this moment when twelve minutes into metro convert research. Like what am i doing. Why am i doing this. You don't need to be doing this. Get interested. here's exactly how it works. I'm picking out four games for the final four hundred one. I get to virginia tech. And i have to name the arena and the first thing that pops into my head is bimbo coles. That's and then. I'm then i'm googling kohl's i mean if you were raised on bimbo. Cozy wouldn't be googling lawyer bimbo coles. I was raised on bimbo coles. But i still need to google him every once in a while. So then i google bimbo coles and then i'm like okay. He did win co metro conference player of the year. In one. Thousand nine hundred. Yea i wonder who want it with him. So that google that the next thing. And then it's over you down the rabbit hole and then it's over for me not ideal in your walking up to people in the street talking about bimbo calls in the in the bimbo coles conspiracy theories. It's not good. Glad her out of jail. No good for him. That's something i lied. no. I didn't know that taught started goodland him last night. 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04/05/2021 - Best Of The Odd Couple

The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker

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04/05/2021 - Best Of The Odd Couple

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But don't take our word for it. Earn your leisure on a high heart radio app or whatever you get your podcast presented by pepsi zero sugar. Thanks for listening to the best of the odd couple podcasts. Be sure to catch us. Live every weekday from seven pm. Ten pm eastern four to seven pacific on fox sports radio. Find your local station for the odd couple of fox. Sports radio dot com or stream. It live every day on the iheartradio app by searching f. As you're listening to the best of the odd couple with chris bruce and rob harker big game tonight. Gonzaga baylor for the national championship in college basketball. And these were the two best teams all season long. Gonzaga's what thirty one in. Now baylor i think is twenty seven and two correctly rob. Gee if i'm wrong on those records but they have been the two best teams and rob. I'm gonna say this honestly. Because i watched that game saturday night gonzaga and ucla and what a game. It was one for the ages. i got him. It started watching it thought gonzaga. Were probably blow them out. Ucla of course being an eleven seat and man give them credit. They hung tough. Get blown out. I mean. I just did you know i was like this. This is where it ends. You know this is where it ends. And when they put that had to put back to the score right there and they needed a miracle. Shot to lose. Ucla that's a miracle shot. As much as i would love to just say. Wow data bank in a three from that spot chris bank in one. It's a miracle shot and if ucla you gotta tip your cap and go like apps. Nothing we could do on that. What what could they have done. Defensively nothing you can't defend soup thirty percent from that spot. You're doing great where i hit it from and then you try to bank it. You take it. That's why eighty percent luck. Not gonna get sucks. He's a great shot. He chris right. It's not a knock more fantastic. Plays down the stretch and rob. I was thinking. Is the game's going on. I'm thinking okay. He's supposed to be a top five pick sees good solid but he was coming off as pedestrian. Not average but just solid no frills. You know makes the right plays you know. But wasn't really putting his imprint on the game and then lo and behold the blocked shot late gets the re outlet pass from his rebound off the block or somebody's rebound off the block and throws a half court bounce pass. I think it was to. Timmy drew timmy. But whoever it was too it was a perfect pass between three. Ucla players for the layup and then they hit the big shot. I gotta give jalen suggs props. But what i was gonna say route. I would not be nearly as into this game tonight. Had it not been for that performance or that game if guns. I got blown them out. I wouldn't be that into tonight's game. i'll watch it. But i wouldn't be as excited about it. Well i'm probably with you from the standpoint of they look like they can be. You know they've been undefeated all year. I think that what ucla was able to do and even though they didn't win. Chris there's an ounce of doubt there to me that they're going to pull this off and i know they're four and a half point favorites gonzaga but i. I think they're going down tonight just gut just to gut feeling. i know. it's real hard the pressures on them to pressures. I don bailer. The you know daddy undefeated team. They haven't lost. They've made the miracle shot to win. Baylor's like playing with house money. Just go out there and give it your all and make them beat you. You know what i mean. And i and i really think that baylor not only chris is a good but i think be gonzaga might be running out of miracles. And i'm i'm gonna go with bela tonight. Well rob you talked about them. Feeling the pressure but it is pressure on whether they're filling it or not and that pressure is not just you want to win the championship. And hopefully they can somehow keep the undefeated season out of their minds. They can somehow keep all the talk about their place in history out of their minds and just concentrate on these next forty minutes tonight. But that's hard to do. And the talk already rob already has started about. Are they one of the best teams in college basketball history or will they be if they win this game jay bilas who is an authoritative voice on college. Basketball of course played at duke and had a nice career. There he said this on the straight fire podcast with our man. Jay mac and rob g go undefeated. It's gonna be really hard not to start talking about them as one of the one of the greatest teams ever and not just in the shock air. Because it's kind of funny. Like and i know they're different eras. I get it but that's what we do. Is we talk about stuff like this is fun. But if you took this gonzaga team and they played indiana. Nineteen seventy six you know. Who do you think would win. And i think this team would win. But the indiana seventy six team has been voted upon as the greatest team ever by certain outlets and so does it. Is it just that. They were the last undefeated team or we had an affinity for them. Do i think duke. Two thousand one would beat gonzaga. It'd be close. I mean they probably would. But that undefeated part if gonzaga wins at that undefeated part is a trump card. You throw down. And then the undefeated team brings the chip stored them. I think rob look. I get it. If they go undefeated win the championship. We said it all last week. They had twenty seven straight games winning by double figures that was broken by ucla. Obviously you gotta give them their respect and if you want to say i mean they're gonna be noted in college basketball history but i'm sorry they're not man for marianne a ability they're not one of the best teams now they'll go down in history and we'll recognize them. It will look back with incredible respect and admiration for him but there's no way with the way college basketball is today that i can say a top five team in college basketball history. I am not. I'm with you. I think it's prisoner of the moment. First of all they got to be undefeated number one number two. I just don't look at it the same way. And maybe it's different. Because it's indiana and the history and bobby knight. Do you know what i mean and all the other things that go on with it. But i'm not there either. I think there are a lot of other great teams in college basketball. And may and maybe even without chris being undefeated how many of those those other great team that won it in one thousand nine hundred ninety larry. Johnson stacy augmon anderson in greg anthony. I'm sorry i think they'd annihilate this team the lot defy slamma jamma. That didn't even win the championship with the lajon and clyde drexler. And here's the thing drew. Timmy who's a great college player. He plays inside so he would be going one on one with a lashing. Ain't even like you say. Oh drew timmy. We'll take him outside and hit threes on team. No he would be playing right in kimes. Wheelhouse i'm sorry in. His look is nothing against these. Kids is just the fact that the best college aged players are no longer playing college and rob. We can point to a time not that long ago when that was not the case when michael jordan championship with a freshman he had james worthy and sam perkins on his team. And they were they. Were actually the two leading scores ahead of jordan. That team wouldn't do do damage to this. That's what i'm saying. I just can't get with it. I understand people are excited. They're seeing this thing and it's easy to just want to like jump out there and go. Oh wow you know like yeah. This is the best team we've ever seen. And i can't buy i'm shocked at bill is obviously his. He's very authoritative comes to college basketball. He played he obviously covers the game now. But he's probably i mean you know. I think he wants. He doesn't wanna wanna you know he doesn't want to drop a blanket on today's college game. I think that's what it is. Because he knows even a duty. Mitchell with grant hill bobby hurley. Who was a very good college way. Kristen leitner was a great college player. Here's the thing think about this. What if trae young. Lamelo ball tyler. Herro andre eytan james weisman job mirant zion williamson anthony edwards. What if they were playing in college right now right. What if that duke team was still together with with zion. Rj bird you. Think gonzaga be undefeated or even in this game. Maybe ready no way. No how. i'm sorry. I'm with you. I just think people this is where we are. Chris just the nature of where we are. And i'm not trying to poo poo being undefeated or whatever. I like. give them credit if they win. It's something. I actually think it's a bigger story to me. If they lose which story bigger really. Yeah i'm going to say. I think two tomorrow. It probably is bigger if they lose right. All the talk shows is old is too hard to go undefeated blah blah blah. But i think historically rob and not that long like next week a few days so now. I think the bigger stories if they go undefeated because i live oil and these kids will live on in history if they go undefeated that shot. That sucks hit will be one of the greatest ever in is tired of history whereas if baylor wins it's great. They're national champions. But you know what i'm like are we. We're not gonna really think about this team that much in the future. I just think if baylor like they will get all the way to this point and they don't get it done. I think it's it's a huge story on. How they you know they. Chris you just said at twenty seven straight games of double digits then the game to get into the championship right. That went out the window and then they lose so when it really mattered at the at at the end they couldn't pull it off in the little engine that could couldn't and then it would go back to us once again talking about these kind of schools. That can't win a championship. Even noted not amid major. Do you know what i mean. Like in name there amid major right but not in not in in where they are as far as a program. So that's why. I think it would be huge. Be sure to catch. Live editions of the odd couple with chris broussard. Then rob parker weekdays at seven pm eastern four. Pm pacific on fox sports radio and the iheartradio app. Hey i'm john. Middlekauff hosts the podcasts. Do you like football. Do you like the. Nfl do you like the nfl. Draft quarterbacks coaches. Well i talk about it all on the show. I used to work for andy. Reid is a scout. Now i give you my unfiltered and raw opinions on everything that goes on the nfl. 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Caesar former college basketball coach had great success at ucla and saint john's now a fox sports one nba and college basketball analyst. Steve lavin steve. Welcome to the what's happening. That was great to be with you. Great time of year. Great night doesn't get any better than this martinez. We got one into his great to have you and chris before we get to the game. I just szuber davis being hired at north carolina. First black coach. They're just talk about huber davidson and this opportunity. Well so happy. For huber davis and it was the right thing to do Discussed this last week when williams kinda suddenly announced his retirement The best fit is uber. Davis you go back to him. Play for the legend. Dean smith is really the godfather north carolina basketball there from nineteen eighty eight nineteen ninety two at the twelve year career as you guys know the nba. I caught him. He was on the knicks. When i was working for the daily news and of no for newsday so i covered uber davis and no is character of the kind of person he is obviously a wonderful basketball talent but also as a human being you look at. His character has fiber everything about him is class and Someone that lives out all the right virtues and values and that's as a parent as a high school coach You know you have someone you care about a you. Want them to play for a person that You know lives the right way. And hubert davis is all classes. You know he has a nice little broadcasting career going yeah Covered college baffles analysts. Roy williams tap on the shoulder gave a chance to come back home to chapel hill. And he's been a part the last nine years north carolina success and he's learned from one of the best there roy williams As well as coach robinson the assistant there so This is just a wonderful fit a good marriage and long overdue Terms of the first african-american coach you get a break a chance at north carolina. And they've always been about family there and so glad to see they've done the right thing and elevating hubert davis and his loyalty has been awarded. Not only as a player Become the back is insistent these last nine years. He deserved a shot. And you got it steve. Tell us about this matchup tonight. You mentioned number one number two obviously baylor. Incredibly impressive base routed houston in the semi-final angers aga- had its hands full with an eleven seed. Ucla so how do you see this playing out tonight. Yeah i think that's something to watch in particular early. You know where is just fuel tank in terms of gonzaga because they expended a lot of emotional and physical few now they are eighteen. Twenty two years old and kids have the ability to bounce back. I think also the adrenaline. The moment of being in the national championship will help but Baylor was able to conserve their energy. A little bit more In these recent games because they've really taken care of business so let's see in terms of where gonzaga's fuel tank is 'cause they did expend a lot of energy in overtime victory. it was a slug fest. the shootout high-octane affair against Ucla so interesting match up. I think the other thing to look at you. Know baylor has quickness late therefore is unique. This'll be the fastest team that has face this year. They some good competition but no one quite like baylor and so does that speed and quickness disrupt or discombobulated gonzaga. Oregon's agnes continue to be surgical and find ways to win with high-powered powered you know Approach to things so those are a couple things to look at early age. Steve is it me off base to think that all the pressures on gonzaga. They're expected to win. They wouldn't blowing everybody out except for ucla their undefeated you know. People expect him to win. Win- favorites sometimes can wear on you where baylor to me is playing with house money. Not that they're not a good team you know. But they're not expected to win. Gonzaga's brought that up. I think it's a really important point. Because to this stage you know of the season up until championship night tonight. Gonzaga hasn't shown any signs that they're playing up tight That they're you know somewhat playing with that way to the world on their shoulders that we've seen before with you know undefeated teams or number one seeded teams in the tournament But again tonight is a different animal. He'll each game out. is different and unique. But this point Gonzaga's been aggressive and Confident and that's a credit to mark few and his staff in terms of the way they've calibrated the mindset of this gonzaga team. I also this thinks to think that speaks to the special nature of jalen joel by and the rest of the zags. I'm big on gone zag guards. I think i and suggs will play the longest in terms of careers. The next level of any of the back bulldogs against you. Know ten and kissed burt Very capable players. But really i and sods is what separates team from any gonzaga team to pass and they've got a great team that adam morrison and company team was outstanding got knocked out The dramatic comeback by ucla. Back in the day But suggs is that next level. And i think i i eat graceful and we'll probably have a better in the nba saddened college. He's been impressed in college. But i think it's best basketball still ahead of him when you look at the fluidity. The grace the ability to defend and someone's going to just keep getting better Inside has been lights out. Steve if they go if they win tonight gonzaga. Obviously there the first undefeated team since nineteen seventy six now. There's a lot of talk is will they be one of the all-time great teams and robin. We acknowledged. I mean you're gonna have to give them their products and they'll deserve their props. It'll be a tremendous accomplishment. And you wouldn't take anything away from him but we just feel like this era. You don't have the best college age players playing college prior to win jordan. Ah lajon kareem luau center at that point you know when got larry johnson grant hill when guys like that. We're playing the best twenty year olds in the world. Were in college for the most part and i. We don't think you can really compare this team to some of those historically great teams where you add on that for starters you have to kinda step back when we have these kinds of discussions and established criteria because it is difficult to compare you know Greatness of different generations. you know take boxing right rocky marciano or joe louis and muhammad ali joe frazier sugar ray. Leonard hitman hearns. Okay it's so difficult. They're all great and there's something to be said for appreciating their greatness in their respective airs When it comes to acting right deniro right of all. Now up to chino laurence olivier. Okay so let's establish that. I took that it's very challenging. But i agree with you that when you look back through the history. The game even some teams. That didn't win it like the houston cougars at. How about how about that. Unlv team with all the studs on them absolutely allies one. And then you've got to put coach wooden teams up there at the top. Because not only were they undefeated. But the teams they had bill and lew alcindor who became criminal jabbar and jabbar was dominant college. Than what the milwaukee bucks in one off the robinson and then obviously the run with the lakers and arguably most dominant player in the history of basketball with the skyhook and the way he changed the game. So you have to start with. Kareem luau cinders teams at ucla terms of being dominant. And that's not to mention the number of all americans hall of famers. They played coach. Wouldn't through the years. Beginning with wall has a championship back in sixty four. Sixty five of not mistaken. That was the first of being chips and a twelve year span but This team not to take anything away from them because their guards are outstanding. And timmy are terrific college players and i think so play professionally. But i don't think they're in the mix of the hall of fame type rally That we've seen in. The allies yuan clyde drexler is and the team's Didn't win it as well as the teams that did all right. Steve great stuff. We angry shaded. So so what's your pick for tonight quickly. Yup or you know. I'm more of someone that likes. The breakdown like we just did hear the make picks and i have really a split feeling on this There seems to be a destiny aspects gonzaga. They're definitely the darlie of college basketball for two decades. Now this is a new position. Them being a favourite and we saw against ucla the challenge that they had in the semifinals with being heavy favorite. Fourteen point underdog against A fourteen point favorite against the eleven seen. Ucla this baylor team again. Lightning-quick electrifying in terms of their speed length and defense. And i think he's got a motivated baylor bears team in terms of a chip on their shoulder. tv and butler and mitchell. Those three might be the best three of any perimeter tax in the country. I like i. And i like subs But just out spear college player. Don't get me wrong. I mean outstanding college player but you look at the baylor bears they got you. Excel at baylor yes. I won't be surprised. We can't get up tomorrow. Break it down. If either you know regardless of the outcome. I won't be surprised because he's a two great teams. Hopefully it's a good one that we can enjoy and talk about tomorrow. I thank you steve. We appreciate the knowledge enjoyed agai- you've seen the challenge but never liked this. Get ready for the challenge. All-stars now streaming exclusively on paramount plus twenty two legends return to the game the most iconic competitors from the original real world and road rules all looking to prove their the ultimate challenge all star the toughest athletes of all time are bringing their old relationships and rivalries into a brand new arena where the challenges have never been tougher and the stakes have never been higher. Oh jeez like mark ruthie. 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I'm excited i think you're excited this this semi final between gonzaga and us ucla really got me into it. I'm really looking forward to this game. Now steve lavin he basically was picking baylor. He didn't want to come out and make a pick but he clearly thinks baylor it'll be interesting because their athleticism that he talked about. You know they like to run too. And that's what gonzaga's so typically if you run the team kinda more athletic and all that may prevail so it'll be interesting but you've picked baylor so we're looking forward to a big game but starting there. We talked about this briefly with aaron tours last hour and about the value of going to college and play in college and he rightly saying look jalen suggs is going to benefit greatly from his exposures gain at gonzaga in college. But do you think that kerry. That's a standard black and white rule. That our buddy. Our colleague doug gottlieb always preaches that the exposure these kids get in college. But you also want that doug comes from. His dad coached college basketball right. I'm just saying like like. I get what these guys are. This is like the old model so they love college basketball broke. Doug did college basketball for. Espn for fox for cbs. Chris it's in his blood. I get it so he can't understand a world without an atom and aaron torres is. Another guy was a college basketball guy. That's that's his bread and butter so he doesn't college basketball to be nothing. I'm not knocking two guys. I'm just saying you know you could point to that one shot or situation and say look see. This is why you need to play. I don't. I don't know how much money he made off. That shot really. Did he make five hundred thousand dollars off. That shot chris. I don't know. I really don't. But i know the other kid may got to comb three hundred thousand after taxes for him and his family and still play basketball stores. Chance of being drafted exactly or close to where he was going to be drafted either way. So what did he lose. I don't look at it that way. I not not when the schools are making the money that they're making right and the kids were getting nothin. I'm sorry right here. I even if such got same made the type of money errands talking about the other. Kids aren't right and subs had to pull off the darn near miraculous to do it. That's what i'm saying. That's the exception. Not the rule. You're gonna point to one guy who banked in at three o'clock was wondering how as that's why you gotta play college basketball. No no and chris. You brought up the other players. Wise men play. What three games in cairo. You plan on eight or nine we could go on and on and on and the mellow obviously never played in college never played in college. And you in simmons remember you stopped. What two thirds of the way through the season and was live locally argument right. I say iraq. You know how we grew up. We've talked about. The tournament was magical. Okay we that's how we grew up. You have talked about the michigan state. Chris indiana state. Larry bird's still like isn't it. The most watched watch and be top because they don't wait some right way. We watch tv then when at that and you know what christa channels and the other to put anything on against it. Do you know what i mean like. Rest away. television used to be when there was a big event. They put on a bad movie or something because they didn't want to waste it and molly point is that i remember that and it college basketball was it. That was the biggest thing going not there anymore. I'll say this rob. You cannot beat the hoopla the hype and if you happen to be somebody that puts on a memorable performance the jubilation and the history look jalen soaks especially. If they win he is going to go down in history. We're going to see that shot over and over again. All the what is one shiny moment. They play at the end of the tournament. That's gonna be on. There is if they win. They'll be undefeated. I mean he will go down in history. That's all great and you can't beat you can't beat that in the g. league you can't beat that or even equal it or even come close to equaling it overseas. I that we get all that and if a kid wants that then then more power to him but most kids aren't going to get that. Evan mobely they had a nice little run. And that's fun but we're not really gonna remember him from determine cake honey. What did i remember. We actually trying to forget the tournament right because you know that it was like. Is he really that good really. I mean it's the other the regular season we're looking at him. So i i mean that part i think you would even agree with we get it. It's a moment but very few kids get that moment you and i look back. I've played frigging division three basketball in college. And i look back. It was great embroidery. The travel all of that was fun. So you right. You're not going to get that in some of these other alternatives. But you are getting money. It's not hypocritical right. It's not let me let me fake like going to class. Like i'm really trying to learn something and you're not getting used to the degree that you are in college and so i. I think it's just a pair of. I'll never like fall to key rob if he really wants to. Just say look. I grew up watching the tournament. I wanna play in it. I saw what jalen suggs the were mario chalmers did i want a chance to do. I'll never fall to care for doing that. Yeah i don't say moments all right. It's hard to get that moment. I was once every decade or so right christian leitner. Mario chalmers jalen sucks. There are some moments here near. But you know it's just out what about the regular kid that didn't do that they decay cunningham benefit real. You know right now. i'm with you. I just think it's it's a mixed bag is hard. Christopher turned down three hundred thousand dollars after taxes. You can just say whatever you want. You know how many people work every day. Hard all their lives. Chris never make two hundred thousand dollars seriously. No i look. I'm wizard especially in you. Don't ask them from different backgrounds right but if you come in from a challenge background no that that's that could be that's life changing and obviously is going to be followed up by nba money which is really life changing but for some people three hundred thousand dollars in a year right. That's huge. that's a lot of money. It could fix a lot of things. Make life a lot better for a lot of people. So i'm not going to begrudge somebody who doesn't want to go to college route and they see these other people who have who have not gone to college route and have been successful. Everybody doesn't do it the same way. There are a lot of people. Chris were very successful. They didn't go to college right right. I wouldn't trade my experience for anything. But i'm telling you right here right now gates not graduate. Yup a lot of a lot of successful people when i was at southern connecticut. Chris if they would come and said we want you to be a sports writer for the new york times in my junior year i would have left college and gone to the paper and worked at night going to school at night to finish my degree but right we'll have to what i've taken a job chris. Absolutely if they came out and the cutler the college experience is fantastic. I love my four years of college. I was out in two years. And i was good with it but these players are getting the real college experience route. Obviously now is different with kobe. But i'm just talking about normal times right. You know that. I stay in a year you know. And then a lotta times. They're isolated from normalcy in a lot of cases. Not all of them right around when it was used. You get the date they they. They find their way to parties and such but no. Who's at six foot eight guy right there. Oh okay right right but yeah. It's it's look i get it. The tournament is special. But is interesting with subs rob. I was watching that game. And i was thinking he's nice. He's a solid. You know cerebral. But you didn't guard he. Did you know. I wasn't. I was like okay but you know. I don't see how really make nothing happen. And then he may. It wasn't just the shot. The block of the riley kid from ms nothing's as riley and then that password rob. That pass was incredible. One off the bounce off the dribble and then of course the shot. And so you know somebody from minnesota. I know texts me. Because i texted. I tweeted something. Like what a game or something like that and he texts me like minnesota guards are built different. We built different. I was like please minnesota guard right like you stop it. 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Gonzaga-Baylor called off; both coaches are insistent on rescheduling the game later this season (Emergency Podcast)

CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

27:50 min | 5 months ago

Gonzaga-Baylor called off; both coaches are insistent on rescheduling the game later this season (Emergency Podcast)

"It is the rare saturday edition of the eye on college basketball. Podcast and the reason is of course as you saw with the update that jumped right into your phone. Gonzaga baylor is no more. It has been postponed due to multiple covid positive tests inside gonzaga's program. So can this game get made up between the schools. They both wanted to happen. When might that happen. I was able to interact with scott drew earlier on saturday. So we're gonna get to our reactions and the other major cancelation from saturday that you might have overlooked emergency. Podcast starts right now. Scary saturday december fifth. Two thousand twenty. Welcome back to the cbs sports. I own college basketball podcast where we sometimes discuss camel fighting an leaky black matt. Norlander is here with me and super disappointing news in the world of college basketball by now. You've likely heard. But if not i regret to inform you that you maslow's game with bryant. That was scheduled for saturday has been postponed. The river hawks were favored to snap their three game. Losing streak and put a smile on elvis presley's face loyal listeners of this podcast obviously know the story by now. Nobody else does. But if you're subscribe at the college basketball pockets you're well versed on how the king left to blow for law in one thousand nine hundred eighty three to pursue a formal education while they're just absolutely fell in love with the river. Hawks on elvis did not live long enough to experience. Donde set years but still his passion for river hawks basketball. It never waned so it was rough news. When it was announced on saturday that umass low bryant is off and then elsewhere in the sport the showdown between number one gonzaga in number two baylor also called off on saturday. According to a statement released by both schools gonzaga player in somebody else zags traveling party tested positive for covid nineteen so what was going to be. The forty third matchup in college basketball history between the teams ranked number one and number two in the people will instead go down as the first number one versus number two showdown in college basketball history to be called off because of a global pandemic. It's disappointing but understandable it's deflating but unsurprising so norlander. Let's start here. we were both about. I dunno seventy minutes from jumping on. Cbs sports hq to preview saga. Baylor when it was called off. We both agree. It was the right and smart thing to do but we can also agree it. Sucks this sucks right. it does and i'm gonna get to that in a second first of all. I love the dead right through it. This is also neglected to mention. You know it's the first ever meeting between umass lowell. Brian so we we've never had number one gonzaga versus number two baylor. And we've never had umass lowell versus brian. That is still the case a light on that. We lost a lot on this saturday. Moment of silence please. Okay thoughts with the with the river hawks. The bulldogs there Yeah this was so we. We were getting ready to go on. Hq i get a text from an unexpected source. That says scoop for you. Gonzaga ballard played. And i'm thinking this close really then. I said i need to know who told you this. I can't tell you so. I sent another text. That person indeed confirmed with me. And i guess i got it right when they announced it. I was told that the team's new at about about ninety minutes. Maybe two hours before tip that it was not going to get played. I was also told that gonzaga's tests results came back. Friday night And that there was not a subsequent test with with all of that There's a few things i wanted to discuss with your gp on this relatively quick emergency pod for everyone. Listening on saturday Thanks for joining us in. Yeah we're done that. We didn't get to see this game The biggest question here Has got your a presser afterward. I asked him about this directly. But this is the same. Exact scenario gonzaga found itself in when it was in florida It it had a it had a staff member or a non player test positive and then had a player test positive. What we don't know yet what we may not ever know Mark few did not have a zoom presser the way that scattered. So maybe this'll come later. I don't know we don't know if it's the same people or not. Is it different. People you know was was this a case of of gonzaga i would presume. It is actually different. People i would. I would assume it's gotta be a different person as well because the initial person was jillian. Straw reportedly right and he would have been isolated from everybody since that moment and so the him testing positive again. I do not believe would have triggered this type of reaction. I agree with you and so with all of that. Said so ashley hodge. hogan hope. I have her name browns correctly. She works for three sixty five which is a local outlet dedicated to covering baylor sports and this was her report that i asked drew about in the presser. She quote word from india's that both gonzaga and baylor wanted to play this game but the health department shutdown baylor players are crushed. Had the cancellation happened. Yesterday baylor had an alternate opponent lined up and quote a couple of things on this. I think that there is a possibility that this game was in florida. It would've been played it because the the health officials were ultimately the ones that. We're not gonna let this go down. And then the teams got together and and said okay. that's fine. i ask got drew directly. If that report was accurate. He did not he did. He did not answer the question directly. He did not that report. He also did not deny that report. But it stands to reason. You know these coaches these players really really wanna play the game but the but the right. Gp we agree that the right decision was was absolutely made here Before i toss it back to you. I want to You know re emphasize what the schools put out jointly Because i thought for all that you know for as much of a bummer that this was this was an important statement that was made by drew mark few disappointed not to be able to play one of the most anticipated games of the season but we are following the vice public health officials and then later in that statement they say there are much greater issues in this world and not being able to play basketball game. So we're going to continue praying for everyone who's been affected by this pandemic. That's the statement that you put out there. Even if privately. And i'm not saying this was the case but according to the report this was the case even if privately scott drew in mark few thought we really wanna play this game Cooler heads prevail. This is the decision you need. Make an. I don't think it's a coincidence that it was made in this venue. Oh by the way with dan. Gavitt who runs the tournament on site just wants zag had positives that popped friday night there. They were just not gonna play. This game wants to have this happen again. After having it happened originally against kansas and then against in florida well i mean. Let's speak with what we know. Gonzaga has already agreed to play a game after a player test positive and was in the locker room mask celeb maskless celebrating after that game. So the idea that a positive one positive test on the team would be the thing. That makes gonzaga go. We can't do this. That's not backed up by gonzaga decided to do last week. So listen i'm hearing out here to nitpick a statement. But i think you're right if health officials would have allowed this game too. I can't speak for baylor. But if health officials were allowed this game to be played it stands to reason that gonzaga would have been willing to play at if based on nothing other than the decision. Gonzaga has already made at one point in the season. I agree with you. Yeah and this is listen. This was this is definitely a major blow. I mean this is the premier game in college basketball this this weekend. It's the premier game of college sports There's two college football all it will have plenty of of watch matchups in byu versus coastal carolina. I actually think it has has a march madness appeal to it This is one versus two. And so we lose it. And it's and it's a. It's a major downer there Gp has a column up that. I will link in the description of this podcast episode. If you'd like to read it he he reacted off of that Before we get to them playing again Baylor and offer up some details on what we know right now. Here in the moment Nutshell review of what you posted. So people can read it so they can kind of get some more insight on On your thoughts on what happened saturday. Just the gist of it is sort of what i touched on before i turned it over to you. This is disappointing but understandable. It's flooding surprising. I mean we are. And i've still got people in my mentions right now. Like i just got a tweet. From pastor. Tim ninety and pastor tim ninety says only one player tested positive for gonzaga. This sounds fishy to me. It sounds like gonzaga doesn't want to play baylor. Like come on pastor. Tim ninety it only sounds fishy to you. Because you don't know what you're talking about has been on the road for like two weeks there in indianapolis longer. They've been in indianapolis all week. They're not just decided to cancel a game ninety minutes because somehow they were concerned about how they're gonna guard macy's teagan a ball screen like this is what happened in the health officials stepped in and said we're not going to allow this game to be played. It's it really is as simple as that sort of the point. I'm making the column. So i've got pastor. Tim ninety people like him in the should just played the game. And then you've got the serov survival rate people in you mentioned saying oh. The players will fine. All young people are fine. Which of course is mostly true if if you define fine by survive in not end up on a ventilator but i think sometimes people stopped paying attention to these numbers or just decided. They're not gonna care about these numbers but we have a past the point of two hundred and seventy eight thousand dead americans in the past ten months because of this virus hospitalizations in the united states over the past week are up twelve point. Eight percent deaths in the united states are up over the past week thirty five percent. So if you're somebody who's dismissive of cases or positivity rate you because all that leads to as sniffles that's what people will tell you well. Hospitalizations are up to around thirteen percent over the past week. Endesa up around thirty five percent over the past week in this country. That's not something. You can be dismissive off. And beyond that as we've talked about before like my wife is in her late thirties. She got the virus and she survived but at what cost she was knocked off her feet for five. Straight days. couldn't get out of bed. She said it was the worst she's ever felt. She still cannot taste or smell. As of this minute meantime. I was talking to a division one. Men's basketball head coach this morning. Whose son is fighting covid. Nineteen right now and his son is young. So that'll be fine. Probably but his son right now is in the bed. Very very the quote was very very sick. So the people who treat the survival rate live or die like this is a pass or fail situation. Just still do not get it and that's disappointing. This game was canceled because health. Officials in indiana were concerned that a gonzaga player or baylor player might die. It was canceled or postponed called off because nobody wants a basketball game. Especially a high profile basketball game to serve as a superspreader event in a time where this virus is raging throughout our country. So i touched on that and then sort of close with this. I advocated nearly four months ago for conference only schedules in a bubble and didn't write that. And i don't bring it up now as i told you so because i recognize creating conference only bubbles is much more complicated than typing conference only bubbles or saying conference only bubbles. I get it but once schools decided they're not gonna go that pack and they're going to try to bounce around the country and play outside of a bubble will. This was always how the season was going to unfold at this moment. I believe based on your reporting norlander around twenty one percent of the game scheduled so far have been canceled. Now that means seventy nine percent are still getting played and if you want to argue that's good enough then i'm not here to argue against you can see the point. We're eleven days into the season and it's been fun so far but if you had any idea that it was going to be anything other than this you just weren't paying attention to college football. Frankly and the difficulties with trying to compete in a context sport in the middle of pandemic that is raging throughout the country. And then and then i hit file yet. There we go. So you're right. We're at about a twenty percent cancellation slash postponement rate. However you want a term that because a lot of these games that are not played on their expected day are trying to get shuffled and pushed back And this was the this is the cost by the way there are plenty of people. No shortage of people saying you shouldn't be playing college. Sports period and a pandemic But given that you need games and you need an tournament and you need bowl games too. Literally Keep keep these sports liquid and into have opportunities for people that are twelve years old. Fourteen years old sixteen years old right now to even be able to play college. Sports on scholarships to five seven years from. Now that's why they're getting played if you wanna really boil it down to it. Because i don't disagree on a certain level that playing these games in a pandemic It might not be advisable but this is being done for the mental health aspects of the student athletes. There's no doubt about it. Every every person i talked to in college athletics including players says that from physical and mental standpoint actually getting to compete go to practice playing. These games means hell of a lot there And it's being done because you need the money to be able to college athletics. We know it in the modern era. This is not 1937 anymore. So with all that being said when this all happened my first reaction was getting this game again. This season is going to be a tough needle to thread but mark few end scott drew both went on the cbs inside college basketball. Show at twelve. Thirty was always scheduled to preempt. The one o'clock tip and they were on for about five minutes and talk with bill raftery and they And they said no there they they wanna play this game. Still a few exact words were absolutely think we will. And then he added. We'll find a way to play it at some point. Scott drew reiterated that on his zoom media availabilities about an hour and a half. After those gentlemen appeared on america's most watched network an entire. There we go and talking to drew and asking him directly about this. There's a few things to keep in mind with all of this stuff one. I do think that if they can they're gonna play the game two hours ago. I thought twenty percent. Now i think if the virus doesn't literally prevent them from doing it again i'm at like ninety five percent that zag baylor will play again whether they're one wanted to when they do it we'll have to wait and see a couple of things to keep in mind. One baylor lost. Its chance to go and play in bubble ville Which by the way lost its final game. You mentioned about playing games. You know in a in a bubble and all that stuff. Nc state yukon was cancelled for today. It was the last game scheduled for bubble ville. Nc state had one player test positive. They're forcing forcing that game. Not to happen so again. Even as i wrote earlier this week. They've done the best they could and they're still. I think there's strong reason to believe that. The nc state positive came from behind arriving in connecticut. And that's how incubation periods work and that can always be very problematic But regardless this is going to be an ongoing challenge but in terms of bubble hillbilly didn't get to go so lost game against arizona state then It's rational to presume that they wanna play villanova so they lost a game against villanova and now they lost against gonzaga scott drew scheduled up in the event. He lost one or two of these games. He's now loss potentially three games against ranked opponents including two games against top five opponents. You can understand why he wants to get that in. So here's what he said if you're wondering when they could play that answer has not been given to us he said there are three or four different routes to getting there and getting there is still be determined before this gonzaga game got cancelled. Baylor was intending to send his players home for christmas. Now you can argue whether that's the right move or the wrong move into pandemic and y you know. The rates are absolutely atrocious in this country right now. They're going to be worst tomorrow. They're going to be worse a week from now and they're gonna be worse two weeks from now so if you're going to actually send players home i think regardless of the game getting cancelled perish. That's a conversation. They need to have plenty of coaches. Have told me if we send these guys home and and and then it's just a rolling three weeks of no games with us like there. That is a real terror. Among coaches and eighty s right now so drew said. They're going to have a conversation with their players. He highly respects the maturity and approach to life of all of his junior's and seniors and that's to be determined there. If they don't go home for christmas there is a window they both gonzaga and baylor have games on the twenty first in the twenty ninth of december. They have no games in between that really leaves like december twenty four th to december twenty seventh as the window. They could get it done Remains to be seen if that would even happen if it did where the game will take place. I asked drew directly. If it had to be on a neutral would they be open to home campuses. He said their preference both is absolutely still. Play the game on a neutral court. But he would not rule out playing either at gonzaga or in waco. If it came to that people need to understand that when you want to get one of these games on a neutral court and get a major television partner. It's not that it can't be done but a lot of stuff has to go into making that happen in terms of getting the tv people their trucks. They're getting everything uploaded. It is actually a real process. Oh i think they've got a chance but it's a matter of when they can do it. I also think there is a potential because drew said this that they will bump one of their non con games to make this happen and so if they're going to do that. Here's what we're looking at. If they decide to go this route on the twenty-first the fourth the four teams. That could be in the crosshairs. Here are all sub. Two fifty teams at palm right now. Gonzaga plays northwestern state on december. Twenty first home game. And then it plays dixie state which nudity one these this season. That's on december twenty. Nine baylor has games on those exact same days against arkansas. Pine bluff on december twenty one and then eight days later on the twenty night. They play central. Arkansas could easily see a situation in which both of these coaches say. All right you want to just make the twenty happened. Or the twenty-first hat. I don't think the twenty-first is going to happen. Because i don't want to. I don't think is scheduled. Play i on the nineteenth and south dakota maybe mark view is just not going to give an athens. Say you know what. We're already in south dakota. Can we make the game happened in south dakota and we stay there. That is a possibility. But if they do that do they. Bump off. pine bluff does baylor and just gonzaga knockoff. Northwestern state they gotta deal with contract situations and all that so. That's just a again. I know that's a lot there but huge game. We're not getting it today. They still wanna play it with all due respect to those smaller schools. They don't stand a chance. If scott drew mark few come to the decision that financially contractually others like you. If you're baylor you gotta play tag instead of pine bluff or central arkansas gonzaga northwestern dixie state like i would think that will be the case remains to be seen. I think we'll have an answer on this. I don't know if it'll be official within a week's time. But i think unofficially we're talking here perish on saturday afternoon. I would. i would venture to guess. That mark scott drew by tuesday at the latest. Even if they keep it to themselves will have their plan in place lasting than i'll shut up. Scott did also say one of the options right now even though it would you would need. Coincidences is if we losing opponent and they lose an opponent and it's in the same window then we would try and pivot quickly and make decade happen. That's the point. I was going to make the other scenario where they get this game because if you look at the schedule right now there's not a lot of places except the schedule right now is not going to be the schedule anybody plates. I made this point on radio earlier in the week. Like you could go print out. Everybody's schedule i think in the entire country and in reasonably assume nobody is going to play the schedule as it is currently printed. So i'm just throwing out possibilities but there could be a scenario where baylor has a game against kansas state and kansas state has a outbreak and they had to cancel that game and gonzaga's got three days off. And you just say hey. Let's let's let's go to florida and play because in florida. They'll they'll let you play. They don't they'll let you french. They don't care whatever you want to do. So i i do think that the game will be played and evidence. That and i'm not trying to pick on pastor. Tim ninety evidence that nobody's scared of anybody else's that they were ready to play the game today. They wanted to. They're trying they're actively trying to reschedule it and don't ever forget this. When this game was scheduled game wasn't scheduled for years ago. It was scheduled a few months ago. When guess what gonzaga and baylor were one and two the cbs sports top twenty five and one these teams were always scheduling aggressively to play. Awesome competition and there is nothing. That's happened so far this season. That would make one of them think. Ooh i don't know if i'm ready for this and baylor looked awesome on wednesday night. Gonzaga looked awesome on wednesday night. So this isn't about anything other than what we've already established and i am with you one way or another in knowing scott mart. They're gonna they're going to try to play this game. And and i think they will eventually somewhere as for going home for christmas. I understand how coaches are hesitant or athletic departments hesitant to tell student athletes. You can't go home for this very important holiday. That is rooted and family gatherings peels to see your mom. Your dad grandma. Grandpa you little brother your little sister whomever but we gonna wanna generation pandemic and the cdc is actually saying. Do not gather for christmas and do not travel fact. He's been on the record multiple times as weak perish saying she's been saying. I would advise against your typical travel for christmas. Well short but like i goes without saying but like i'm talking. Listen my mom. Lives ten minutes from me. My dad lives ten minutes from me. My mother-in-law lives ten minutes from me and we did not gather for thanksgiving. And we're not going to gather for christmas. And i'm not here to say and if you do you should go to jail like at this point you either get it or you don't but i'm i'm simply not comfortable putting my parents or my inlaws. Who are all in the high risk category at risk of this like if something goes wrong with some of them or any of them. I want to be able to look in the mirror and say i didn't contribute to that so we've already decided we're not gathering for christmas and sale that to say this a basketball player at place like baylor. Gonzaga doesn't only have the responsibility of keeping elders in their family safe. They also had the responsibility of keeping their basketball program up and running. Like if i catch kobe because i gather at christmas. Cbs sports ain't shutting down. You know like the people will still be in the studio somebody you'll still write columns top twenty five and one could get tricky but like what we we everything would would move along if baylor if player test positive bay. There's going to shut down for whatever period of time. Same gonzaga or any other school. So i know it's complicated and tricky. But we're living complicated and tricky times and my advice. Based on what health officials are recommending would be that college basketball team the players. They do not go home for christmas. Because the cdc doesn't even want you to and beyond that the the risk seems to outweigh whatever reward. I think we've covered everything. Listen to saturday afternoon The last game on the schedule tonight is portland. State portland portland states to ninety eight in kampot portland's to ninety six to project three point matchup. Can i get you. Can i get a prediction from you saturday. Pick for saturday game can we. Can we get here. What her prediction would be. I will be asleep. I'll be. I'll be knocked out. But but this the fighting terry reporters. Okay seventy two right portland state sixty eight. Can you give me the nicknames for both portland schools. Of course important states the viking. That's right quality. Name and portland is much like eastern illinois. Yeah leather leather ears. The portland leather ears. It's an alliterative name. The pilots there. We go portland pie mean. let me. i'm staring at it so long. My gosh this is this is my issue can we. Can we keep the quasi trivia time. Honest and i would you. Can you get a prediction for portland. I was like all right. Let me clicks. And let me see what i need to say you know. Ross teams the one who could actually give you a breakdown of portland portland state. I'd never pretended to be able to do something definitely. He could definitely do all right. 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01/12: Rush to judgement? Who is the best team in college basketball: Gonzaga, Duke or Baylor

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01/12: Rush to judgement? Who is the best team in college basketball: Gonzaga, Duke or Baylor

"And I'm Gary Perish dead-leg Matt norlander second bears hair. It's scary pairs at Sunday January. Twenty Two thousand twenty welcome back to the CBS sports eye on college basketball. podcast where we sometimes discuss Campbell fighting a leak black Matt norlander is here with me and I want to start with the question that dominated twitter this weekend after Baylor Aka Terry teagle monitor with Keynes's recorded its first ever win inside inside Allen fieldhouse that question this which teams should be ranked number one by humans right now in my opinion and I think norlander agrees. A reasonable case can be may for for three schools. Gonzaga do Baylor now. If you want to argue in favor of the undefeated teams Auburn San Diego State. I suppose you can. undefeated in January is undefeated defeated in January. But for the most part the argument seems to be between Gonzaga Baylor and Duke and from my perspective. There is no obviously right answer. You can't I think reasonably reasonably ranked Gonzaga Duke in any order norlander. I know you wrote about it Saturday night. I re tweeted so folks can find it on either of our twitter feeds. Where are you on the topic? which team should be ranked number one right now you are? You're so adorable. Do you know that you're a cutie pie. Why do you say the last podcast? You may recall how it began. I do. I'M NOT GONNA play it all back. I mean it just happened. It's not like the WOFFORD callback. That was months in between. Were just a mere days in between but you got all All huffy puffy got huffy puffy. You brought the huff and puff to me. Okay what did I have. What did I what? Where did I have Baylor I did I have the Kansas? I know yet kids to seven. That seemed to be the seem to be talking point but I had them below Baylor and and you seem to have. You had a little issue with that didn't you. I didn't think it was proper at the time as you know. Because you're not a dummy so I know you know so anything that happens after rankings are published has no impact whatsoever on whether those rankings made since at the time. Okay so I understand that. But how many times are we going to go cheek to cheek with this tango. How many times are you going to call me out on something only to be wrong? Like is this what you want the podcast to be who you give me other regarding you going to apologize to these men and I named them now. FA Yudo Manny Lecompte. Michael Williams Curtis Tyrrell's David Wesley Taurean Prince. I`Ma keep going Andre Branch laced Darius Done Harvey Thomas Brian. Skinner Rico gathers authors Wendell Green Leaf. You're familiar with Mr Greenleaf. Aren't you course Jonathan Motley Candy Cherry Isaiah Austin Tweety Carter Brady heslop Perry Jones Quincy Miller Quincy. AC and Terry teagle would. Do you like to apologize to all of those men and to Baylor Nation for doubting me for doubting them for Baylor having arguably arguably its biggest win in program history. Okay I first off. I do not find it necessary to apologize to Baylor because my argument about canes had literally nothing to do with Baylor it was all about Kansas having six teams in front of it on last Thursday. So that's it's worth that was. I always had a high opinion of Baylor. And I feel like I'm I've looked mason. Jared Butler Mark Vitel. Mary Oh caglar. Can I keep going. I thank Dang Roy so Neil Lester Medford Al Freeman I I feel like a quote Unquote National College basketball reporters. I'm the biggest Baylor cheerleader. In among us yes I am the first one who stood up. It's popular to do now and say Hey Scott grew pretty great. Everybody does it now but who was the first to write the column that said You people out there. Making Scott drew jokes or out of your mind. This guy is a consistent winner at a school where you're not supposed is to be a consistent consistent winter I was and I don't know if you remember this but I can. I can remember being in the neonatal intensive care unit when my youngest boy was born. And I'm rankin basketball teams sitting next to an incubator by the way that's true. They understand that you like you and most normal people take paternity leave and I'm ranking ranking basketball teams next to an incubator in a knick you and I may Baylor number one once upon a time back in the top twenty five live and one and then made the case of why voters should do it and if we can agree that weekend and week out I have an. Ap I have an impact on the AP poll the top twenty five and one does with working in connection with the politics subsequently moved to number one in the AP poll. I believe for the first time in history and obviously credit goes to Scott drew into those players but I feel like I played a role in it as well. I'm the biggest. I'm I'm wearing a baylor. cheerleading outfit right. Now in fact I have one I would put it on Star Gel love. Aj Wolton Perry Jones Cory Jefferson Person. Aaron Bruce All right so we continue move on here. Listen I get all that I have a little fun with you and I know some some folks on the tweet machine. We're giving you a little bit a little grief as well but listen just a little fun back and forth here as we start. Hey let's let's get to the conversation of who should be number one because it's actually pretty interesting but let's for Baylor. Listen your first win at at fog Allen ever you get your first win on the road against a top five team in program history. You didn't own twenty four leading into that your first win against the top five team as a top five team and you now have started the season with five wins against quad one teams and that doubles as we sit here on Sunday. Night is five wins against currently ranked opponents from resume perspective. Right now I think Baylor indisputably has the best resume in college basketball and with that. If you want to slop Baylor number one zero zero issue with with Baylor Duke or Gonzaga but I did a Kind of a quick primer case. File Saturday night about each of these teams I think can make a compelling case for all of them. I even think if you really wanted to make a case for San Diego you stay and though it's not as good even one for Butler it's only lost his at Baylor and since they're both one loss teams I think Baylor just has had the trump card at this point though Butler does have a very good resume. May and I in fact would have Butler as one-seat just a matter of how you're going to assemble your case. Are you going to rank teams based off of how you'd bracket and see them if that's the case then Baylor should be your number one and I prefer to take a little bit of Kalemie and a little bit of column B. and that's have you should use. You can and should use the results that we have but also realized that predictive predictive metrics we've known this for so long now and now it's part of the everyday expectation of college basketball they have value and those metrics can help sort sort teams and it's basically what Paris which almost everyone does whether they realize it consciously or not because it's for example. It's why say like a team like liberty you even though it's got an eighteen in one record isn't really in anyone's top twenty five at this point so little column and not even not even like not even on the radar when I looking at teams seems like Saturday nights last Sunday morning when I know I'm taking a team out I guess it was Penn State and I'm looking for other schools to go in like I look at fifteen schools. I don't I never even looked at liberty right which is which is totally completely reasonable. So I'm just otherwise because if you only look at results results only you're just relying on stuff on paper or on a screen and that can almost get you back into corners here. So that's why to me Duke. Feels like the best case for number one as of today strongly strongly rates as the best team of college basketball in most predictive metrics and has plenty on the resume to support its case that the margin. GP They are slim. And as as I said. Butler Baylor Gonzaga. Both have a case here. If we're GONNA have a real conversation we both know that when the poll renews on Monday Gonzaga is going to hold onto that number one spot voter behavior over decades as indicated that and I don't really have a huge issue at all I did read your top twenty one from Sunday in your reasoning is completely fair by the way because Washington get punished for its league affiliation. I get that if I was ranking I would trying assemble some combination of resume and who I think. The best team is for me. That's Duke but Baylor good good on you. Amazing starts so far. I'll have more on you and Scott drew and all that stuff on the site later this week and It is a compelling fun discussion right here in the now I agree. Taylor's got the best wins at this point and by extension. I think the best resume thirteen and one twelve game winning streak. Five wins over top fifty Kim bummed teams all five actually over top twenty five teams to those winds or road wins five annot inquirer at one opportunity six in one in Q.. One on slash q two opportunities alone loss to Washington on a neutral court and it was way back on November eight. So that's super strong and I promise you anybody who has Baylor number one on the ballot. Monday will not be at risk of of being the victim of politics column assuming that I write it in the ballots outlets are released on top. Totally sensible TAB Baylor number one for the reason do you state it also totally sensible to have duke number number one Sort of my bottom line. All this is that Gins Aga- Baylor Duke should be one two three in some order and you can probably do it reasonably in any order. But the reason I kept Gonzaga number one in the top twenty five and one on Sunday morning even though I knew it would get some backlash because like I mentioned at the top there was a strong on push on social media. Like Baylor just did this. Baylor's resume looks like this Baylor should be number one. The popular thing right now is not to have Gonzaga number number one but to remove Gonzaga from the top spot. And I'm not saying I would never do it. I don't want back myself into a corner but I don't oh I wouldn't like to do it and I don't think I'll do it. Dropped Gonzaga from number one without losing because to do that is to essentially punish them for for being a member of the West Coast Conference which obviously is not their fault. They play who they play in the League when the League tells them to play it. And all you can do is if you're mark few is schedule as aggressively as you can schedule in the Non League and then play your league schedule. And so what did he do. He agreed to be in the battlefield. Lantis that's an that had Michigan Oregon North Carolina and Seton Hall in scheduled Rogue Games in Arizona and Washington schedule a home game with North Carolina. Team that was preseason top ten now that wind doesn't look like anything right now. It doesn't help them. But but when you schedule it you think you're having in a game against North Carolina which is year in your out one of the best teams in the country so he scheduled as aggressively As you can reasonably ask him to schedule in the Non League and when all of those games were done and we were looking at everything that had been done to that point most host humans said Gonzaga should be ranked number one in the country. And what's happened since then. Nothing but wins. They're on a ten game winning streak They have won their four. W Games by an average of twenty one point eight point so it's not like they're limping through or they had to go to overtime. They are mostly. They've mostly been overwhelming to inferior opposition. And I promise you you can you know mark. You could text in tonight. I bet you would love to have just played games against Texas Tech and Kansas. This past week. He'd like to have his team challenge more in January February and March but you can only play the WTC WBZ schedule when you're a WCC member and that's why to Drop Gonzaga at this point in my opinion would be to assume it isn't what what we thought. It was three weeks ago and to assume it couldn't do what these other power conference schools are doing. If given the opportunity so I elected to just keep Gonzaga Nemo Wii so quick note. Just if you're GonNa do that though and we did mention liberty. I think you should be fair to the flames. I if they get a couple more to the next around the road and just just as an example like don't hold it against liberty for its conference as well because it doesn't have a great non conference schedule it does have ten. Total neutral and road wins at this this point and it doesn't have little control over that so eighteen in one only loss at LSU defeated Vanderbilt defeated Akron which is a top up. Seventy Five Ken Palm Win. So I would say if you're going to do that's fine. But if we look up three or four games here and liberties at twenty one and one or twenty two and one I would think if you were going to be consistent with that you should remain fair and and consider ranking them particular because their team. That's a top fifty Ken palm team at this point in the twenty four th in the net. So that's that's the only thing that I would throw it. You're there it's fair. I mean listen when I say they not even on my radar. I don't mean I don't know what the record is and I don't know what the uh-huh Quad one record is to record is. I just mean that. They weren't under consideration on Sunday morning. Their computer numbers are not as strong as Gonzaga's their error nonleague. A wins are not nearly as strong as Gonzaga's they're not going to be able to get Goodwin's within their league but sure like the the record is the record. That team is playing. Well it has climbed in the computers even without signature. Victories I just I guess I'd say this you're you're exactly right. I Hold Liberty Gonzaga to the same standard but I don't think liberty and Gonzaga or in the same conversation right now for sure. Okay all right so so I would go right now. I'd go duke one Baylor to Gonzaga three and then if I was to expand out because actually you know I'd go I I think I'd go. Sds you four and then Butler five. You're good with me having like Kansas Seventh. Now I presume eighth is that I almost dropped. Keynes's needs is to seven just to have them at seven and he's done everything we talked about last week because I was so disturbed by you having them seven but then when I drop Let let me call it up. Real quick I WANNA make it exactly right. When I dropped him to seven I had him seven just ahead of Butler and I was like you know what maybe I should have Butler ahead okay? That's because you have to. Yeah Butler went to Baylor and play them tight in. Kansas got smoked by Baylor inside Allen. fieldhouse I was like yeah. I think I think butlers Kansas as well so I've got my top eight right. Now are Gonzaga Baylor Duke Auburn Oregon San Diego State Butler and then Kansas at number eight. All right I also want to give a quick shout here our listeners you guys and gals are terrific and the podcast is going a to a new level parish brought him. I actually saw this when I sent it late Saturday night so I saw it after I woke up in the morning. So this is this. Is Willie Molina on instagram. He's got a message for you and me here. We go this sister dead on Gary Perish and dead-leg Matt Norlander Sick and bears uh-huh to you. Willie terrific. I laughed so hard when I saw that the first time. I got a good chuckle this morning as well all dead arm Gary Perish. dead-leg met. Oh how about this as we'll move on a second year by the way I'm on good old the wizard of Oz. Kenny White. It might even be listening to this right now so I go on. CBS Sports Hq Saturday morning on sportsline where we make a bunch of predictions against the spread and all that good stuff and and Kenny white the wizard of Oz. Who Was Bryce Harper is high school baseball coach? Making a pick. Is that true by the way. Yeah yeah well yes someone someone told it to me Like last like last March or April when I was When we were doing stuff and they're like yeah? Kenny White Coach Bryce Harper in high school. It was the most random thing ever. It's like Ben Incredible. Actually I saw Bryce Harper at the CBS. Sports Classic. I know we. We've we've gone over this anyway. The point is this so I make my pick. I don't know what I well obviously pillow to cover. So let's say it was after Baylor and Kenny white goes and this is this is unprompted and obviously obviously like I'm done talking so now it's his second here and he goes. Yeah I'm going to have to agree with dead-leg norlander there and I'm like my watch. Are we doing what. And then he went on to explain that because the previous week I'd made a couple of picks against the spread widely disagree and I was like all right. You just wait and see and they will. They wanted to of course be incorrect. And so then he was like you were right on this picks I had to give you guys podcast. Listen dead arm Pairs dead-leg norlander you guys are right on top of it like okay okay. This is extending outside the podcast universe. Kenny white if you are listening again indeed to this podcast appreciate being on. HQ With you always but yes huge weekend weekend for Baylor a big weekend for a couple of teams but Paler obviously the biggest winner. In fact I'll put a little bow on this here. I saw Kevin Powell. Oh go who is the brains behind. KPI which is one of the metrics selection committee uses on its team. She says reference. He said that Baylor's win at Kansas in his system was the most impressive strongest win of any team at any point this season period so it raises the best win in all of college basketball for this point. That's even above say Stephen F. Austin winning at Duke Evansville winning at Kentucky so good on you be you sitting pretty and Yet gotta be considered the favorites in the big twelve right here right now. Yeah I mean that's the other thing not only did they. Just get their first win. Ever inside Allen fieldhouse there now at least on the path in a good spot to to win the first ever big twelve regular season title. They've never done that and they've never won a big ten a big twelve tournament title either. So like everything's on the table. You Know Scott Scott a super high level team and I think it's been since one thousand nine hundred fifty since Baylor was in the final four. I mean even Terry teagle great as he was could not get Baylor to the final four. But but it's possible this team could get there. There's certainly good enough to get there and I would say one last thing before we move on and it's something you said last week and then I repeated on television. I hope you didn't mind me. We're doing that but we have all these conversations throughout the season about. WHO's really the best team? Is there a great team and now here we are again. The truth is Duke. If Trade Jones hits a runner instead of turns it over in the final seconds overtime against Stephen F. Austin Duke would be sixteen and a number one and all the computers have wins over Kansas Michigan. State they would be the unanimous number one with the obvious national player of the year and we would be talking talking about Duke. As if it's this this great team under any circumstances and because of one possession nearly one possession. We now talk like nobody's good and I do think that's worth pointing out that Duke. Is that close to being what most of US would consider a great team. I would agree with you. And it's why why I would put duke number one right now because the loss counts and they were in a close game to begin with Stephen F. Austin but if you're going to come down to the difference between one and not a made shot And free kind of the plate self that once. Even if Austin is just an awesome all-time play but it was a little bit of a freakish play That's why I land where I land a Baylor wasn't the only good record recorded his story win this weekend. Clinton also did it. We're going to get into that next but first check this out golf. All seasons kicking back into high gear and the first podcast. has you covered join mark. Element Rick Gaming Gray. Do Sharma myself kyle porter as we go inside the ropes from the major tournaments and beyond. 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It's just funny to read this one in fifty nine all time at North Carolina and what was better than Clinton coach. Brad Burnell screaming. It's over. It's over cool moment. I saw your tweet which was perfect but just Listen Roy obviously took it hard outdoor those North Carolina players are struggling but but nice moment for Clemson. Nice moment for those players in that program. Yeah it was certainly I mean Cathartic for for Brad. Brownell my tweet was is. This is how I feel when I get down by eight o'clock because it does it and people who don't have Yankee don't get up at like Oh my God I have no idea like you listen you oh you love you love your children. I Love my children. We wouldn't trade them for anything or trade are circumstances for anything I think but you have no idea how great it feels when your kids fall asleep when they fall asleep early. It's like it's like I. I did of radio every day I come home and I look forward to see my children hanging out and play games and we we just just we. We have father son son moments all night long but in the rare time that I call my wife on the drive home and I'm like so whatever new up to and she's like Oh. They both fell asleep in the cars. Ars I just put them in bed. I'm like man this is going to rate and it's great only because it's like what most normal people get to enjoy. It's like I get to come home and I don't I don't play Mario Kart all night. I come home and I don't have to color. I can just like act like a normal adult and doing normal adult adult things like. It's an amazing using thing. That's correct yes. There's a there's a lot of a lot of truth to what you're saying there but no listen. I is Tesla moment in the in the limelight for Clemson here. Getting the win weirdly. I mean Baylor and Clemson collectively go in to the weekend having never won at North Carolina and having I never won at Kansas a combined seventy six and they come out to anno- sports or just their freaky sometimes when when things happen like that And you you know for Carolina. It's a it's a it's another another low head I get all that. They're still trying to get through these mystic rhythms of their season. It's it's bad for UNC. We've talked about it a lot. We saw distant early warning of this once. Cole Anthony went down but I don't think we need to get too much into that Violets this is going to win again. Winning vital signs are obviously showing for the tar heels. They never what they never win again. They're going going to. I've got to believe that they're gonNA win at such or they've got they've got more than a ghost of a chance of winning again this season I believe personally but but here's the other thing by the way I didn't starting to admit this but I didn't see one second of the game and I'm like I'm angry like a completely illogical human being at this because first of all Carolina was going to win this. I mean it was up by like ten with the two minutes to go or something like that. I mean it was such a far cry for Clemson to even consider thinking he could win that game. And then you just break after break bigshot turnovers and it just it collapses late they go into overtime but because the game was on ACC network. How about this I get? ESPN plus and it was blacked out in my own area like I had I had GP PAC twelve network moment. Over the weekend. where I could not? I couldn't watch the game. I wanted to watch it but I couldn't watch it so congrats to To Clemson for getting the win I mean for Brown like honestly like it's a rough season you're going through. ACC down this is obviously just a pig. Big Big time win here. It's more than just one little victory for Clemson itself but but But Yeah I to me. It was the bigger story was clemson actually doing in this season. Like if it was ever GonNa Happen. This was when it was going to happen. I was just annoyed that I was incapable of watching watching the game. I guess unless you were somehow regional to it or had the best cable package imaginable. You also were incapable of watching. Did you even get to see any of it. I did not see any of it. And the reason is I was on sideline at Marquette Seton Hall at the Prudential Center and check. I think I think my game started earlier than that game but that game was started during my game and then after the game. If I'm being honest I want to dinosaur barbecue. There you go with the dinosaur barbecue right outside the Prudential Center Table One and had dinner among Seton Hall and Marquette Fans and then followed it on twitter. I remember yeah I think I remember seeing it while I was at dinner. That clemson had one. And you're exactly right. They were up. North Carolina was up ten with one fifty six to play. It's hardly diplo's I mean that's that's almost like Memphis. I mean it's worse than Memphis. Kansas Memphis Kansas. Two thousand a title title game was up nine less than two to play. This was up ten less than two to play again. You can play that game fifty times in North Carolina or anybody probably doesn't blow that but yeah they blew it. They didn't foul up three late. And I think that was Roy's main talking point after the game. I wonder if he minute it this way. I'm not questioning sincerity. But like he'd been hard on those players earlier in the week said they were the least gifted team he's ever coached North Carolina and then in this post game name. He said that he led his players down. He said he didn't tell them to fill up three. And you know as a coach. You're supposed to help your players win. And he said he didn't think he helped us players and and then he went on to say that if he dies tomorrow if he dies tomorrow or twenty years from now this will be the biggest regretting coaching not ever had not putting his players in a position to win that game and regulations I'm not looking for Roy to exit stage left and tomorrow or anytime soon. That was with each passing game. Roy's quotes are getting honestly uh-huh they're getting more depressing and I understand that because he takes this stuff really hard. But he's gotTa just he knows the roster and lack of talent he has overall respected to previous teams all that and you know. UNC didn't display a lot of grace under pressure. I get that against Clemson. But they're just I mean overall the SEC's we're going to talk about the big ten a little bit like this is almost the exact opposite of the big in terms of strength this season. I think it's GONNA struggle to get four teams in the tournament. Virginia like we were both all in on Virginia wapping Syracuse. The signals were there and we were quite wrong. Syracuse Syracuse scored twenty points a five minute overtime after failing to get to twenty points in like twenty minutes of of gay time it was two different hemispheres. If you will between overtime in the in the second half of the game so bizarre. But by the way I was at all in Virginia wapping Syracuse. I thought Virginia was going to beat Syracuse. That's thirty one. Thirty one to ten did not did not quite Did Not quite happen like that. I don't even understand any of this stuff. How many more and I had some people on on twitter point out? Virginia lost the three players early. Took me like I know I do not think I know what for dinner lost you still. You should still be better offensively than what Virginia is and I say. See that with the most amount of respect for Tony Bennett. And he's an amazing basketball coach. Like literally one of the best in the world it is just baffling that. They cannot score better than they score. And I don't mean just like point. Total it's not just. The point totals have our annually smaller than then what we consider other great point totals for great teams because they play at such a slow pace but the offensive efficiency. Numbers are there two hundred and twenty ninth in the country. I mean I don't even know if there's a way to look this up but has a team ever gone from winning a national championship. Two Two hundred and twenty ninth in the country and efficiency the next season it seems pretty seemingly unlikely because even if you're in a power conference in you're bad you're still going to you you. I just have a fly by not up operation to not even be like top one seventy five so no. I don't think it's ever happened like like what is the next worst I in the ACC. Boston college is worse. So those poor those poor guys. Hey but like I guess one ninety five Georgia tech one fifty nine Clemson. So they're not even the worst in the ACC. Still or the or the. But but still I mean there there. They won the national championship and the year after winning it to twenty nine in the country and offensive vision. See that's pretty rough number. You WanNa move onto the victim. Oh Yeah I do. You're fired up. I'm GonNa have some fun with this. Yeah let's let's move on to the big ten here. Where do you WanNa go with their? So I'm just you know. I'm not sure how closely people have been following the big ten outside of big fans but the standings are as weird as it gets. Michigan State is alone in I even though the Spartans just lost by twenty nine points at purdue on Sunday afternoon that was on. CBS Sports America's most watched network network stars Ohio State. It has gone from number on it. Kim Palm two one and four in the big ten tied for last but still seventh at Kim Palm ruckers tied for third. So that's wild and then Michigan the only team that beat number one Gonzaga is tied for ninth. There are twelve top thirty five Kim bum teams in the big ten right now. Twelve teams between fifth and Thirty Finn and Jerry Palm has nine of them going to the incidentally tournament at this moment. He's he's got Wisconsin just on the wrong side of the bubble so this is a great league but be a league. That seems wildly unpredictable predictable at this point. It's like it's not like twilight zone or anything like that. But it's just weird to see what the big ten is become okay. So first of all Purdue just destroys Michigan State Michigan state looked just lackluster at the start of the a game and produced a lot of big shots. Big moms didn't have an amazing shooting game but trivial Williams after he goes for thirty six and twenty in overtime effort loss against Michigan. Let's say against Michigan. Excuse me at Michigan. Few days before it comes back has another strong game there and so when purdue was winning like this I thought you know what maybe for the pod on Sunday Sunday night perish and I will try and I want us to guess right now how we think the league will wind up when they get to the scene of the big ten tournament. Okay so obviously. A lot of these teams are GONNA wind up with the same record in the leaks. That's going to be unavoidable. But so we're going to just essentially try and predict one fourteen in the big ten because I sat down to do this and I was. I was second second guessing myself. Four teams in I was lost in the trees. GP So let's go. Let's go Yumi. Yumi you me and just see how different it gets and how quickly so. So who's your one thing to your point. I didn't get too confused at the top. I felt okay there but like when you get to the middle you could reasonably have a any team fit or twelve. Yeah I mean that might be I got I got. I got twisted by team three. Okay so let's start. I've got Michigan state finishing for obviously Michigan State. So we're each one one all right to. I've got meryl in me too okay. Three actually have Michigan. Okay okay I have perdue tone ask you why what is pretty tenant. Seven didn't seven over all three and three in the big ten seventeenth at Kim Tom. They've got four top fifty. Kim Palm Wins Michigan State Minnesota Virginia. VCU But they've also lost in Nebraska. That's correct so like I don't even know what they're doing. Okay but this'll this'll hammer home. The point I made okay. So you've got purdue third I've got pretty nice okay. This is what exactly Ackley one wanted to happen. You've got an addition third. I've Got Michigan V. Who Do you have fourth Ohio state? They can't wait anymore. I Have Indiana the key idea. New World Man. The idea like two weeks ago that I would even remotely considered Ohio state below third. And I've got him six Ohio state the first of all. I don't even want to know your level of sexual attraction to Ohio state anymore. Eleven o'clock we'll be below that I would if if I were going to have to have a relationship with Ohio state right now I would need to order. Roman DOT COM okay. I'm going to have to get a Roman dot com subscription love. I'm in my forties. There's nothing wrong. Nothing to be ashamed of understood stood understood nothing to. You're listening all right. Ohio state is number eight Ken Palm and one in four four in the big ten. Those are conflicting ideas there. So you got Ohio state third. I Have Michigan State Four. I've got Indiana Four. I've got Michigan Five. I've got Ohio state six. Who Do you have five and six Illinois Five Live shows the time for? Nellie each yes I got Illinois Fifth and I got rooker sixty rutgers. Sixth I believe in Steve Pyke. We're not like I've got okay. I got Illinois. Seven Hoodoo F. Seven. I've got Indiana seven one. Okay so you got into seven. I got him four. So just to recap. Because we're halfway through my one to seven sparty. TURPS PURDUE INDIANA. Don't ask me why Michigan Ohio State Illinois. What's your one to seven? My one to seven is Michigan. State Marineland Michigan Ohio State Illinois Rutgers Indiana Rutgers at six this is an amazing countdown Who Do you have at eight Wisconsin? I wonder if we're going to have any. We're GONNA probably have three. We might have three teams to. It'll be in the same ranking right. Now it's just I wanted to. I have got Iowa at eight okay. I've got down eleven where it gets real slippery okay. Nine purdue remember purdue I'm not seeing purdue I'm not seeing any way purdue finishes gets a nine seen the big ten tournament I've got rutgers at nine rutgers outside of Michigan State one Maryland to and the teams I have at thirteen and fourteen. My most confidence offense likes seats election rutgers nine F you are you kidding me right there scarlet knights number nine. Okay so you have. Ten Pin state and Penn State in the top twenty five in one like four days ago and now get him Tin Tin. It's absurd I've got. I've got a bucket at ten and I don't feel good about that either. Because I feel like Wisconsin might be the hardest team to actually peg in all of college. Basketball don't know what they're doing. An eleven to eleven. I've got Iowa. Okay Iowa I've got I've got penn state I'm not I had such reluctance about this but it is so hard to assemble this league to me from three. Maybe four to eleven that I I don't have a ton of confidence in Penn state being that low but it just it's where I wound up putting them because because I don't even know how trustworthy they are back to back losses at Rutgers non-competitive losing by nine at home to Wisconsin. So I put the nittany lions eleven. That means I you gotTa think our our twelve teams will be the same Minnesota Minnesota. And that's why by the way Minnesota's not terrible at all. Daniel tour has been on a tear lately. The and Minnesota just beat Michigan on Sunday Minnesota. It's three and three in the big ten as we speak right now and that means that Minnesota is tied with purdue. I do ahead of Iowa ahead of Michigan ahead of Penn state all highest by like three games. We all we all that we both think this is going to climb back. Okay Okay and then do we have the same thirteen and fourteen. Who is who do you got there? I've got northwestern Thirteen Nebraska. Fourteen and I have the other way around. I Have Nebraska at thirteen and I have northwestern at fourteen. Something tells me they'll wind up with the same record lasting for me on this. I've got Michigan State at number for one. I think they're gonNA play twenty games. I think fifteen and fives were sparty will land and that's going to do it. I think they're going to finish one game ahead of Maryland at fourteen and six and at the other end I got northwestern the worst team still getting to four league wins finishing at four and sixteen overall like the. I don't think the the big twelve get twelve teams in the in civil ornament. I just think they're gonNA somebody's going to fly the other way but twelve teams on January twelfth that the coach can wake up tomorrow morning and believe they are in contention for reasonably inconvenient for an incidentally tournament bid. And that's pretty wild. That's that's insane and particularly if you WanNa look from the net perspective which is hardly anything at this point right now the lowest ranked big ten teams that would project still have a chance. Minnesota's the worst and it's forty fifth produce forty third Indians thirty seven and then it's just a clog. Man Penn State Iowa Illinois Rutgers is twenty six to highest obviously Michigan State Eh. Here's what's weird entering. The daily Michigan State was eighth. So where you've got. The big ten is the best league and by far the deepest league in the country. There is not not a team that if you WANNA say if you're a top five team you're an elite team and maybe Michigan State is going to get there but they're right now now after what. It was incapable shape. -able of doing on Sunday. I mean you score forty two points. I don't care the opponent bad look there so you know. We're a little dichotomy with the league. So good so deep. But while we think of Michigan State and Maryland as like title contenders th. They're not on the level of the teams. We talked about at the top of this podcast. Well I I mean like what happened. Sunday is what we're talking about right now is these are things that shouldn't be happening on the same day. We both believe. Michigan State is the favourite. And we'll win the big ten and we both just watch them lose by twenty nine points to. It doesn't make any sense on none none at all by the way. The website is not Roman dot com. It's GET ROMAN DOT com. Thanks for that clarification to you know if you need to get down and dirty with Ohio state on this four game losing streak get Roman DOT COM THEIR ORLANDO. It's nothing to be ashamed. I'm I'm I'm good. I'm I'm not saying that I'm I'm not saying that That it is at all. I'm just saying if you find yourself late at night and you got to hook up with Ohio state on a four four game losing streak get Roman Dot Com. Okay Fair may maybe doubled those it maybe maybe overdose it he might have to overdose it. You got to review on read here okay. This one this every Sunday for people who I don't know we pull a podcast review from apple podcast just to show our appreciation for the people who have taken the time to go over there and subscribe and rated five stars leaving nice comment. You could be the next person to get a shoutout just like Darna learn and Chester South Carolina so this one reviewed reviewed comes from been from Louisville Been From Louisville. This been wrote. So what's up guys. I'm a Diehard College Basketball Fan. Who has now been listening to the Pie for more than five years today though? I reluctantly submit this five star review after just reading tweet from none other than the Great Gary Parrish on Monday night in response to viral. tweet asking what's your really you have it seen it movie. GP confessed that he had never seen hoosiers to make matters worse. He stated that he wants interviewed them in. This is true who inspired the film. Even though he is not actually seen the Kim been continue. I was gifted a copy of the movie for my birthday at a very young age in have seen it more times than I can count GP. I want to thank you for this but I will employ to find find some time after the season. Sit Down with your sons to watch this iconic basketball fan for the first time considering you cover this port for lifting. I feel as if you owe it to yourself norlander. I do not know if you've seen hoosiers but I sure hope you have shut up. Jimmy Chitwood keep up the good work. That's banned from Louisville. Is it ridiculous that I feel like we talked talked about the podcast. Is it ridiculous that I'm a basketball rob hall writer. WHO's in diversity? News little bit hoosiers is really good. Not My favorite sports movie but it solid but see now you are so far removed from when it was came out in this. All is hyper rally. There's no way you're GonNa Watch hoosiers and be like what have I done for the past thirty two years of my life. These regrets are just piling on top of my shoulder. That's not going to happen but you should watch it but as a side note actually mild shame on you from materialistic perspective that you interviewed all these men and yet you didn't do the backward to watch the movie. What's this story? Well okay so it. was that the final four in Indianapolis like the last last time. It was Indianapolis whatever your that was years ago. Twenty fifty over Duke over Wisconsin. I guess coming out in thirty eight no Kentucky Gas. I do remember. That donkey was undefeated. Willie Cauley Stein was on that team okay harassment and so yeah. I didn't find out till the morning up. I love that I was going to be interviewing the men who were on the is it Mylan High Mylan high team. Yeah nineteen fifty four. I believe nineteen fifty four mile and high team that Inspired the film hoosier. So it's like hey like I say the morning of it might have been the afternoon it might have been something like. Hey in three hours when we get off the set You're gonNA talk to so and so and so and so on camera interview. They inspired hoosiers. I was like okay. Sure I can do that and so I didn't have time to watch the movie but but it did occur to me. Geez I've never even seen this movie but so then I just read everything I could find so by the time I talk to them. I was well prepared to talk to them and they were delightful men like you you. You might think that when you're those guys and like your entire life has been built around telling these stories like your every time you meet somebody somebody eighty points out to the to this new person. Hey you know. He was on that team. That inspired the movie hoosiers. And you gotTa tell that story of fifty five bazillion times you might think they get tired of it and if they do they didn't show it. They were delightful. They were funny. They were kind. I love those men even if I can't remember their names at this moment but I I've found them to be Awesome an enjoyable but it did not even after talking to them. Make me want to go watch the movie. I never watched the movie. It's not like boycotted it. I just never I've I've never seen it. Okay let's do this real quick here is off the fly so member like some years back af I was like this whole like TV series about one hundred greatest movies of all time. Sure okay. I'M GONNA go the top under. Let's see let's see the highest rated one that you haven't seen all right well number one citizen Kane. I assume you've I've seen citizen Kane I seen citizen of Casablanca. I've seen that and have you seen Casablanca. I saw when I was a kid. I don't remember exact. I watched it once and so we move on Godfather father number three of course. I've also seen the godfather gone with the wind. Number four yes. I can't say that I've seen all of gone with the wind but I I know I've seen some of it. Same as the same is true of number five Lawrence of Arabia. I don't believe I've ever seen that. Don't say okay but even though that's considered a top at five I don't like how often are people really talking about Lawrence of Arabia like that's outside of this conversation right now basketball podcast six. I sixty six's wizard of Oz. We've all seen that right. Of course. Yeah seven wow higher than I thought but I definitely seen it great soundtrack track the graduate. Of course yes eight. I definitely watched a specifically in school for Theater on the Waterfront. Yes yes nine. I know I haven't seen all of it but I've watched it before and parts Schindler's list. I have seen shinners. Yes ten singing in the rain. I've seen it but I don't remember it but I know I've seen it when I was at number eleven. All Right Seth Davis. Here's our movie. It's a wonderful life. Obviously we've all seen if I wonder if I know I've seen it live tweeted annually. Yes I'm very familiar. You know what I. I don't think I've seen twelve sunset boulevard feel like I have seen sunset boulevard but I don't remember it but I feel like I have seen it bridge on the river bridge on the river. Kwai why I don't think I've seen that that's a good movie Fourteen some like it hot. That's good scene that you've seen it. I don't know how star wars at fifteen eighteen I saw all the early star. Wars was like a star wars freak when I was a child. I haven't seen any of the like like the last is to however many star wars you have never went on the turn of the century. Were just whatever I haven't seen the most recent one but like the new the newer ones. Actually I think are are pretty solid overall. What were the first three? Does it go one. Two three and threes return of the Jedi. That's correct that's where I just decided I'm done John Okay. That's enough that actually. There's a lot of like I'm not a die. Hard Star Wars Guy by any means but there's a lot of people that are like the you're better off for that but technically the ones at the turn of the century therefore five and six in terms of when they're released but they are one two three in chronological order. Like so if you were to reorder and all that stuff or whatever couple more here here I don't even know I've never heard of sixteen all about eve idea. African queen seeing African Queen. I don't think I've seen that psycho. Yeah or yes. Yes of course Chinatown. I don't think that's That's a that's definitely Chinatown and one flew over the Cuckoo's nest at twenty. got to see that. Yes let's see one of the. Here's we talked about this. I guess it was last Monday when I tweeted about this. And then we open my radio show last Tuesday on it and my producer been doyle is I sort of went through and just named some of the most famous movies that necessarily best but famous movies that we'd never seen yes and like my list. Obviously included hoosiers also ferris. BUEHLER's Day off. I've never seen it. That's worth it. I think my so my movie. That is the highest rated and clearly like has a has such critical appeal and big following. I've never seen godfather part too. I've seen that God. Would you watch one but never never got around to it. I don't know what to Tell You so godfather you've been disabled for two months. You couldn't watch wreck incorrect. I did not get to ski because because it was like seventy degrees in the northeast as ridiculous. What are we doing here when I left New York on Thursday? It was four degrees degrees when I got back to New York on Friday it was like eighty stupid. It doesn't even make syndrome. So dumber is dumber than than and purdue resume quite quite but aside from grandfather to. I don't know actually there's another like taxi driver. Forty seven on this list. I've never ever like in terms of famous. That feels like everybody around my age of scene. I had never seen ferris buehler's Dave Day off I've never ever seen titanic I'd okay. Yeah like tectonics that was like. Do you realize that when that movie came out I was in high school when that came out that that it was in the theater like seven eight months because people would go and see it and so it was it was as deeply embedded in the culture. Answer as really any movie I can ever remember I. It was the kind of thing where you would go and just be like. Hey you know. Let's watch titanic. I can't explain it. I'm just telling you how it was actually surprised fries. You never saw that. Yeah I mean I've seen the scenes I know how it ends but I've never sat down and watched it front front back. Some other ones that I had never seen that people were surprised by dumb and dumber people quoted all. I want to end the podcast right now. Are you freaking kidding me. I'd never are you kidding. Me Ever Seen Number Senate should I. It doesn't matter it's one of the and I don't want to hear anything from from the naysayers. That is one of the five funniest movies of all time. Are you kidding would comes out with this dude is of certainly good good and as possible as maybe any movie ever. I cannot believe you've never seen dumb and dumber this is this is this is an actual outrage. What are you doing what I never? I never watched it. I like same thing I say about the hoosiers. I didn't boycott it. I just never actually watched launched Gotcha. Now I'm actually pest about the dumb and dumber stuff. Like that's that's I don't even know what to do. I don't know what to do with right now. I Apologize I apologize. You need to watch that movie as soon as possible as soon as possible. Back to New York tomorrow. Watch it on your flight. You can find on items. I'm trying to get to the second season of you. I don't get out of here with that. You could probably story. I assume it's through on any of these streaming services. I Want Act Gary pair. CBS US on twitter. Let this man. No what are you doing man. What are you doing with your life so like ace? Ventura the masks all those i. I honestly don't know what I'm doing my life. Okay you've seen all the other like Major. Jim Carey comedies from the nineties. Right yes by far the best of them all so I don't know what you're doing dumb and dumber is the best Jim. Carrey movie movie. It's the Best Jim Carey comedy yet. Jim Carey movie where he got Super Serious Guy. Are you talking about the the Best Jim Carey movie is Probably Win Man on the moon. Are you talking about when you did. Yeah well I've seen that you're talking about eternal sunshine. Spotless mind that was great. But that's not what I was talking about. That was that was great. I'll tell you what I was talking about. You're talking you're talking about Truman. Show no but I like that too. So it's good. Yeah I am talking about the serious guy. Phillip played a series. Maybe maybe just making that up. I don't know I think I may be making that okay. He was Adam Sandler that plays a series that was punch drunk love. Yeah I enjoy bet. We're talking to that have you. You've seen all of the notable Adam Sandler movies I think so I haven't seen the new one. No no no but like the the nineties once you know happy Gilmore all the good ones all right. I'll have to think about Godfather. Two is probably my biggest like mega movie. That I've never seen but that's actually great. It's not even like all you got to see it because it's what it's actually like you'll enjoy it. It's terrific yeah I I gotta I gotTA check it off. That's that's by far the biggest one last one for you. It's like a scene like shawshank redemption. Yes okay all right. That's that's like got to the I think that rates as like the rotten tomatoes tomatoes best movie ever something like that. It's way up there so this is a college basketball podcast right like I guess it used to be. It used to be used to be here. Here's the promised almost everybody. I will at some point over the next two weeks. Give me some time I will watch hoosiers and dumb and dumber and Norlander has to watch godfather two. It's something I can make that. Listen all the world's indeed a stage and we are merely players performance and portrayers each another audience outside the golden engage. Okay I gotcha okay. Don't forget I'm going to be in studio. CBS Sports Network again. This week. Tuesday and Wednesday flying. I'm back to New York on Monday. We got a double header Tuesday. VCU Dayton in Wyoming at Nevada Dayton up to number six at Kimpan by the way legit final four contender. Since you enjoy talking about all the stuff I was wrong about earlier. Do you remember right after the Maui. Invitational me coming on here and saying listen. The computers caught up with a yet. I'm just telling you. Dayton is a legitimate top ten teams. They looked the part and now guess what computers have caught up with it. Number six can palm third in offensive efficiency agency shooting fifty nine effective field goal percentages fifty nine point one that ranks first nationally. They're shooting sixty two point three percent from two that ranks first first nationally. Ob Top and as a real one legit national player that your candidate likely lottery pick Dayton. Flyers are legit you on board with him. Yeah I've been on board with some since since Maui. So I'm I'm there with you and now they're even further ahead in the a ten just Uri has beaten VCU. Seventy seven of the past. Eight Games. Which I was unaware of until I saw your I one at Vcu and because of that it's created even more separation the attend? I'm in Dayton and I'd love to just see them in this kind of weird season Continue to go with this. And it'd be great if Dayton managed to get like a to see three four. I think that'd be awesome. They're capable of it but Certainly big big big game ahead on Tuesday against VCU and VCU needs it big time to even try and keep foot for the top of the League so the double header Tuesday night. CBS Sports Network Dayton them Wyoming at Nevada. I'll be in studio and then we will either late late Tuesday or in some point Wednesday record the next podcast to Devon down shouts to chat to South Carolina. She has to Terry them. diglis legend Chesler now shouts to been from from Louisville. Please go subscribe to the college basketball. podcast the apple podcasts rated favourably five stars nice comments and we will talk to you again middle of the week Dylan take it came. GAUCI's let's kick back into high gear. And the I got podcast. has you covered join mark. Element Rick Gaming. 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Salisbury Steakout: ESPN Disrespects The Cougars, Shaka Smart Leaving Texas

The Sean Salisbury Show

09:13 min | Last month

Salisbury Steakout: ESPN Disrespects The Cougars, Shaka Smart Leaving Texas

"Footing the logic illogical former wrong. Sean salisbury continues to break it down. Seven ninety sean woody. Here not there now. The cells berry stakeout stakeout. On the sean salisbury. Show breaking news for you guys. What is it cougars in the elite eight. usc's in the elite eight oregon. State's neil lead ucla's in the elite eight. And i got baylor and gonzaga in the final two. So i just want to let you guys know. It's breaking news. My trojans during the elite eight everybody know that does anybody care. That was not worth the breaking news on was his wide. And have you hit the sound effects. There you go but the cougs are in it and this is going to be fun. I'd put it this way. I haven't had this. Many teams of like the emotional interest coach samson university of houston the team. You picked a win at all meaning for me. It was gonzaga baylor local. The pac twelve represented after. They've been laughed at a lot. Us season. i mean. It's pretty cool. From i i love it and i love the fact that we have two texas teams in it and to legitimate chance to win it. All baylor's really good probably the number two one seed in my mind. Does that make sense. The second best team in america deal. And calvin sampson teams just relentless. So we'll discuss Heavy t did you screw it up over the weekend. You rest drink a lot. would you do best thing. You best the biggest difference. You made this weekend. I did not make that much of a difference in the world of desert. You didn't enhance the show name. This weekend did not not really great way to go now. The best thing i did I played xbox much all day. Yesterday i was on with all my friends back home for the homeless. That was pretty cool. That was the most time i've spent with them on xbox since i've moved here homeboy so that was pretty cool. There you go all right. What do you got to start out this What do we call this. the stakeout. Stay where you got former so. Espn very early. This morning released an article titled reseeding the men's march madness field for the elite eight. Why do they do this ranking. Let's get them. Okay go ahead teams. Obviously okay the eighth seed in this. I'm going to say would be oregon state now. Ucla no arkansas arkansas number. That's good they mad. They said well we said that's the worst team it's either. Ucla oregon state next ucla's number seven. Okay oregon state six now. They're not gonna have six you ages six. Yeah they've been. Nobody's been both all right. Then it's ucla five or ucla. What's your okay. Then oregon state right. Organize right Four would be. Let's see that. Lee would be southern cal for southern cal michigan three yes to yup gonzaga one so my question is basically is this a disrespectful ranking for houston. It is but i get it. And here's why because they're not like it's not. It's the arkansas that they're not winning sexy. It's not at least we'll lease beautiful. They're kicking some teams assets. and nobody. it's like okay. If i go to major league baseball and say what looks visually better. The dodgers who hang out eight runs on you and be eight to four with three home runs or max. Scherzer wins two to one on our justin verlander on a pitching performance of jim. Say not the team who made five great stops on defense in one. Three two two. We'll get the optics from most. Just people are going to say. Oh but they hung ninety in basketball. Oh did you see them with back to back jobs and homered four times in a game though there. Pitcher wasn't very right. You get the point. It's it's just the optics and the optics look at houston say grinder dive on the floor in your face. Not even though they can score. that's there. They haven't hung ninety on anybody in this tournament. I don't think they. I know they did get cincinnati. So they've just been grinding through it and they've been playing defensive rebound defense. Rebounding art sexy. They win championships a lot of times. When you score the basketball at times. I get it and it's disrespectful but just the optics of the eight teams. It fits their six best team in the tournament. They're better than that but the optics say. Okay i get it. I mean okay from what you've watched and even have they looked better than sc. No they look better than Than than Oregon i mean you could go round and say now no no gonzaga baylor. I get why they're saying it. But i don't think they're the best team in the turn. It's just it's not pretty. This is just all opic optics opinion. So they're not the best team. But i understand why they're saying it because it hasn't been beautiful you had. The reasoning is their path has been fortuitous. Oregon state will be the fourth consecutive double digit seed houston has faced in this tournament. Oh well so. That's their fault. Good draw all they can do is play. Who always silly they can do. Draw plays in front of right and who they beat the teams that were beaten other teams made it to higher seats got better made. The selection committee should understood A little bit better in that region bottom line. Is you only play on the schedule. And houston's care of the business optics wise. I see it and kelvin. Probably sees it too but that doesn't make a hill of beans when they line up against oregon state tonight. No we have not talked about it yet. Shock smart leaving the heading to marquette What do we think of this and who will be the next coach texas. Here's here's one. And by the way. Mike woodson looks like he's gonna take over at indiana deal as they finalize that i knew the talks been on. Okay he when i went to bed woke up this morning. It was like okay. It looks like it's finalized. And i don't even know if his name's on the paper but woodson a former indiana hoosier than in the nba for a while. They dan docket. You told me on his show. They're looking for somebody who's been an in house guy who's a meaning. Mike woodson a former rocket by the way mike woodson indiana hoosier and had played. His college bothers they. Were looking for a guy who's been in house and kind of like a lot of schools. Do we want that guy. And they got mike woodson. And i think he'll do a good job. We'll see how we adjust back to recruiting after being in the nba for a while with the shock. Smart thing i'm gonna tell you this. I believe that it it was. Hey man you want to leave okay. We're gonna show you the dory. Everything was that they were very happy to hear that he was right. They were. They didn't want to fire easy on themselves. And on him to where it was but nobody listen if they if he didn't leave it was gonna be hard for him to keep this gig. Does that mean shock. Smart can't coach. No here's what i believe about. Shock said it over the we had said it when it happened well when somebody had cinema side sub to quote tweeted it. Whatever that is. I believe shock is smart. I think i said it on here last week. I believe shock smart. Better coaching non superstars. Just do their schooling. I don't think he'd be good at at duke at kentucky. When i say good i think they may underachieve. He'll always have an underachieving team over achieve like a three star guy over. He's the he's like coach schneider and football when he was coaching at kansas state. Gimme a bunch of three start guys. And they'll make every play on the football field there is they'll end up getting beat by somebody a little bit better than them talent wise but my guys will play hard. I don't think he's the perfect guy to coach some superstar type talent and high regard. I think he's the type of guy that loves to coach overachievers. Yeah i think they respond back and he'll watch this marquette up in the sweet sixteen in the next three years. You watch and shocker smart. The star will shine again it. Just i think there's certain guys. John calipari i don't believe would be good coaching virginia commonwealth. They might be fine. But i think the cows eight knows how to relate to the one in dump superstars. He knows how to sell you on. Get into that next right. And i think here's what happens shock smart big recruits underachieve when he goes to a place like marquette big time they got good basketball health. But it's not a the days of al mcguire and boat. You know butch lee and bow ellison that and then dwayne. Wade's after that they're a team. That sometimes looks good. So you know what i'm saying. They they can overachieved times. That's perfect for him where he was before. Texas might be a little bit for him. I don't mean it mean and there's certain guys in football and certain guys coach better when they have guys that overachiever and get them to believe in themselves. As opposed to guys. You've got to coach that maybe lottery fix you know what i mean. Yeah i believe that doesn't make chaka smarter bad coach. I think the change is good for shock. Smart we gotta go. Steve sparks next sports. Talk seven ninety. He will join us right here. On the sean salisbury show.

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Texas' Andrew Jones is the top story of the weekend; Gonzaga/Baylor vs. the field; loaded listener mailbag (College Basketball 01/10)

CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

1:11:24 hr | 4 months ago

Texas' Andrew Jones is the top story of the weekend; Gonzaga/Baylor vs. the field; loaded listener mailbag (College Basketball 01/10)

"Scary perished sunday january. Two thousand twenty. One welcome back to the cbs sports. I on college basketball podcast where we sometimes discuss campbell fighting donor birds and leaky black matt. Norlander is here with me and it was a busy but largely calm weekend in the sport number. Twenty three michigan state lost at home to unranked purdue on friday night number. Fifteen rutgers lost at home to unranked ohio state on saturday afternoon but as of this moment those are the only two ranked teams that lost to unranked teams this weekend. Though i should note we're recording this at like eight twenty five eastern on sunday night and unranked maryland is at number twelve illinois right now. That games in progress so again so pretty calm weekend all things considered but the only game between two top fifteen teams on the schedule ended up being a really good one. Final score was number. Four texas seventy two number fourteen west virginia seventy the last eleven seconds or something. Let me walk you through it so west. Virginia's up seventy sixty nine. It matthews uses at the line shooting to ten point. Eight seconds left. He misses the first. He misses the second. Greg brown grabs the rebound. Gets it to courtney ramey he blows straight by ted sherman and west virginians. Entire defense collapses. So here's courtney ramey in the lane surrounded by five years. His four team mates are all wide open beyond the art perfect spacing ramey gets in the air finds andrew johns for an in rhythm three. He buried it with one point. Eight seconds left west virginia. Didn't get off a shot on the subsequent possession so texas wins and extends its winning streak to six games. Longhorns are now ten over four zero in the big twelve. The loan loss is a single digit lost to villanova if the nc double a. tournament started today. A that would be weird and surprising but b. I believe shocking. Smarts team would be a number one seed. Come win it. Now come with a norrland earl. What's better than andrew jones. Cancer survivor bearing a game winning three pointer against a ranked opponent and this time when we should we could do surely use a few feel good stories. Andrew jones provided us one this weekend damn writing. Can i get that one more time. Shocker smart that how about texas. My man texas look like a great great great story. Really good team this was. I'm glad we're starting on the pod here We'll get to the bears at the end. But i didn't know. Gp was going to lead with. But i figured this was going to be at. Because i had a weekend. Wrap up post. I'll lincoln and the podcast description kind of ten takeaways and to me. The biggest story come out of the weekend is this is andrew. Jones hit in the winter. Three years to the day after shock. Smart informed the then texas roster back in two thousand eighteen teammate. Andrew jones had been diagnosed with leukemia. And it's not. Just what's interesting. Is this so before all this happened. Our editor who. Who gets the occasional reference here on the podcast chefs demarcus nelson. He hit me up about halftime of this game and he said listen. You know for court report this week. We'll see what happens with texas here. But what's interesting if you have if you were interested in doing. It is like enter. Jones is actual real factor on the texas team. I'm like i couldn't agree with you more. I've been thinking about the exact same thing for the past week. or so. lo and behold gp goes out and hits. The winning shot texas was was chasing the whole time they were they were and this came after and i know i wouldn't expect you to remember this. I know longhorn fans listening. Certainly do last year when texas went into west virginia ninety seven to fifty nine loss. So you'll get absolutely creamed a year ago at west virginia. You're really started. This is another good test your trailing the whole game engines such a clutch shot shouts to courtney rainy for even making that heads up play jones wide open he hits the bucket it's practically a buzzer beater. Technically wasn't and here we go. I mean this is really to me. Even though we knew texas could be plenty good. It's been relevant. It's got good wins. This was it. The kansas win was really good. But you've gotten you've gotten any sort of notion that the kansas when might have been fluky that's completely gone here. Great gritty comeback win texas Similar to like an iowa opinion if we're gonna talk final four contenders national championship factors beyond the obvious to you. Gotta keep texas there permanently. They had five players scoring double figures. And it wasn't just andrew. Jones ramey was great. I just love this team's roster man they are. They're wonderful jones off. The bench is as good as just about any player in maybe be outside andhra number and even what he does for texas really might elevate. Ut more than what number does give them what they have at at point. Guard up there and spokane so those are my immediate takeaways from that win for those unfamiliar with the andrew jones story. It's a pretty incredible story. He goes to texas freshman season averages. Eleven point four points. Three point nine rebounds three point five assists as as a first year player. He's impactful sophomore year comes back. And he's leading the team in scoring. He's averaging fifteen point three points through eight games but then he starts experiencing real fatigue just tired all the time and so he only played nine minutes against kansas only plays eleven minutes against iowa state. Again this is. Texas is leading score so something is clearly wrong. Obviously he's seeing a doctor going through all sorts of testing. And here's how quickly a young person's life can change on january. First two thousand eighteen andrew jones was playing a big twelve basketball game little more than a week later. He was diagnosed with leukemia. So he's done for the season now fighting for his life he's released from the hospital in february two thousand eighteen so he's there for a while finishes outpatient treatment in august of that year and then in october breaks. A toe plays two games in november. Then he's done for the season again. Now you've got medical red shirts from the way for both the two thousand seventeen eighteen season and the two thousand eighteen. Nineteen season comes back last season averages. Eleven point five points per game. While starting eleven times this season he started ten games. He's averaging thirteen point. four points. Four point four rebounds and twenty eight point seven minutes per contest. He's only shooting thirty one point one percent from three but he made a big one on saturday. And if you weren't happy for him you're either west virginia fan or a heartless individual because shock and talked about this after saturday's game like andrew said he's going to come back and be a meaningful college basketball player and they were like. Let's just focus on getting healthy. Let's just make sure you live. And here he is one of the best players making a game winning shot for a team that has a chance to win a national championship in shock. Sort of tied the two things together. I think fully. I don't know what it's like to get that kind. I can't imagine what it's like to be a young person and get that type of news delivered to you. You feel invincible. When you're that age particularly when you're an athlete at that age and then now you're sick now you're in a real fight. Shaikha said that you a different person might lose. Motivation might find themselves battling mental things like depression or whatever other types of things might see. Been when you're dealing with this and yet andrew always had an obvious goal not just to live and just get healthy but to play college basketball at the university of texas again. Now he's doing he's doing it. Well it is a incredible remarkable and inspiring store hit four threes. he did play well from beyond the arc. There on saturday hit four. Threes on seven attempts finished with sixteen points as i mentioned five texas players in double figures remy led the way with nineteen greg brown at twelve in addition to fourteen boards by the way the amac colin played. Well cajones play well and like it's a luxury for texas. This isn't what the team wants or anything like that but jericho sims log. Seventeen minutes the only had he had two points. He had three boards. He can be better than that. And i think they've got a pretty solid eight-man rotation there at ut with six kind of super reliable players for west. Virginia it's a stinging loss I thought miles mcbride could have been a little bit better. Derek culver not quite as good No oscar she bay Who by the way commuted kentucky earlier on sunday. But we'll get to that property in the podcast. But i thought no she boy in this game actually made a difference if you told me that he had been available and playing even just his baseline for this season. I actually thought west. Virginia won this game. Now it's getting a little bit of a dose of what it's going to be like without him west virginia for those who aren't ears fans. Trying to keep track your. It's lost three of his past five. It's wins have come at home against northeastern and then they stole one against oklahoma state. They've got a schedule game. Tuesday night against baylor. Just keep an eye on west. Virginia here still think it's gonna be good enough to get in the tournament but i just am not convinced. I've been this way a while with west virginia even when she was in the lineup. I'm just not quite convinced. This is a second week in love kind of team a team. That's going to wind up with a relatively respectable seat as we head in there. Maybe i'll be wrong. Maybe it will shock the world baylor on tuesday night but there's nothing to indicate that's going to happen. It gets a little bit of after that with home games against tcu and oklahoma state but just keep an eye but yes. This was the thought it was the biggest shot the biggest game the biggest takeaway on saturday and we can get to the other stuff in a second here. But i'm glad we love with it because texas for me. It's the best start for them. Since two thousand ten eleven they won their first eleven league games that season and at ten and one. it's now proven texas. I mean it. Kansas wins at west virginia. In addition to beating indiana northwestern. There's enough there. It's gonna take another loss or two or three that's gonna come but a top five defense knocking on the door. A top ten offense. This is it. This is the team. This is a team. That's good enough. Not saying it will but it is good enough. I believe with that roster if everyone can stay healthy and you continue to get production. Jones coleman raimi's really coming along. He's our best three point shooter by far. Yes certainly if you're ut fan and you've been kind of aching get back to the final four since that year we got knocked about knocked out by mellow and cues. This can certainly be that team at thought. This kind of wind goes a long way to prove that leads. The nation in quadrant one wins but texas leads the nation blood winds. They've got the neutral over indiana at kansas and a win over north carolina so they have wins over three of the biggest brands in the sport. Texas next game. Wednesday against texas tech. That is another quadrant. one opportunity. gonzaga and baylor both remained undefeated this weekend. We'll talk zags and bears next but first check this out. Dustin is your reigning masters champion. So naturally it's time to start preparing for the next edition of a tradition unlike any other the first cut golf podcast on cbs. Sports podcast network. Is there to take you inside the ropes on the pga tour. Join mark immelman. Kyle porter great you. Sharm and myself rick game at as we break down everything you need to know about the world of golf from betting previews daily fantasy advice round by round recaps. We have you covered download and subscribe to the first cut on apple. Podcasts spotify google podcasts. Stitcher and you can also watch episode on youtube. Be sure to join our group and tee off with us on the first. Cut golf podcast. Mookie for a leg up on your bookie every single day yes every single day we got you covered on the early edge a daily betting podcast powered by sportsline. Join me coach. Is i bring you the best capper's directly to your podcast app every morning by eleven. Am early edge. Knows your time is money so we aim to deliver you. The betting need to know in under ten minutes. Sportsbook won't know what hit them from the gridiron to the basketball court. If there's a sharp side of the action you'll be armed with it. Be sure to download and subscribe to the early edge. Howard vice sportsline part of the cbs sports podcast network available on apple. Podcasts spotify stitcher or wherever else you listen to podcasts. Gonzaga baylor both remained undefeated this weekend. Gonzaga be portland one. Sixteen eighty eight baylor. Tcu sixty seven forty nine so the zacks or now twelve and with eleven double digit wins and the bears are eleven and now with eleven double digit wins as of this moment. Gonzaga's adjusted efficiency margin plus. Thirty one point nine. Four baylor is plus thirty one point nine two and then iowa is third at plus twenty seven point two three so the difference between first and second is zero point zero two and the difference between second and third is four point six nine in other words there's almost no difference between gonzaga and baylor belongs in the conversation with those two teams right now. That's what the computers say at least norlander. Do you agree with that assessment. Or would you put another team at their level or better yet. Let me ask you this would. would you take if i offered it to you right now. The field gonzaga and baylor or the field. You would take the field no question about it if you started the tournament tomorrow. That would be weird on the safety. Catch me by surprise. I tried wake up the text messages. Probably to be like. I'd be like hey we need you. We need you on h. q. And i'm like but my my kids are running around the house right now. What's going on. They'd be like well the ncaa tournament starting. And i did freak me out. Yeah it would and but at least at least this you and i both know that if that happened and they called to. Hq you could say. I don't know if you know this but you need sixty eight teams to have an incident tournament. You've got that in your back pocket. You're getting the thing. Some people don't remember is that only four teams make the final four. I love those little. I love it absolutely love. It was this question by the way inspired by my tweet lead on saturday. Night my screengrabbed. Yes because i was gonna clown you because y because it was technically incorrect. Use said that at this moment like baylor win over. Tcu and you're like okay. Baylor has edged ahead of gonzaga in adjusted efficiency margin but gonzaga will go back in front. Once it's portland win registers and win. That went in last night. They didn't go back in front but at this moment something happened today. That made them go back and front gotcha. So it wasn't as interesting. So well. The reason i wonder i don i don't know. Was it iowa getting a big win over minnesota that flipped gonzaga's number back ahead of baylor every result in the palm universe effects. All the other standings general with the efficiency margin. 'cause gonzaga's like thirty one point nine four and baylor thirty one point nine two. That's adjusted to the rest of the sports so it depends on what teams one today. What teams lost by. How many margins. That's how that's determined at this point in the season. So you're right. That's exactly it and i didn't realize i skated out on that. I did not know that was technically not ahead. Although that doesn't surprise me. Because when i sent that i fully expect taggart was cruising. I fully expect aga- to to win big and cover. It actually did not even cover at that point at one one sixteen eight. that's not a cover I don't know this to be a fact tonight. Dropped a trivia time on you. If i knew it but it might be since loyola marymount that you had a team score north of one hundred ten and not covering a game in college basketball. That's kind of wild but so be there it is. I would take the field that would be the smart bet. If the field started to teams versus the rest of the field the higher percentage is going to be the sixty six other teams. That are in the dance as opposed to those two but it is a legitimate question here. And i do think there's a real level of separation i mean at this point. What do you want to say. Baylor's won eleven games. they've all been by double digits. they weren't Neither of these teams playing games. That really you know. Flare the national radar. It was business as usual. They remained undefeated. Joel by the way had a triple double. It was the first that this was surprising. It was the first one in program history for a gonzaga show credits who he wound up with. Twelve points. thirteen boards fourteen assists. And he's their fourth best player. It's absolutely absurd. They're again they're just crazy loaded so i would take the field i if you ask me to bet i would take the field. I wouldn't feel good about it. If you put a bracket down in front of me right now and i just had to pick one team. I was still picking saga. But if i actually had to wager money and you said okay you gotta put five hundred bones on this one way or the other. I would take the field. Because it's it's the it's the safer bet right now. But i just don't see how anyone is really just in that conversation just yet the stats barrett out and really the the results. Gp barrett out. I know michigan still undefeated. And that's a great story so far we'll see what can happen this week. All the other teams that are behind him. That are in the conversation. I was got two losses although it looked good on sunday. Nova's only lost once. It's in the middle of a pause again. We'll wait and see. Wisconsin solid We just talked about texas Tennessee certainly seems to be there. So i gotta believe you're with me here on this Not that they can't be beaten. I think we're pretty level headed when it comes to this. Of course they can be defeated. Perish but there is a real separation here and what feels different about this to me and i have not gone back and looked at this yet because i really wanted to wait another two weeks or so. I wonder if they'll win. The last time college basketball would have had a top two that separated inefficiency margin by four four and a half points or so not just like a team that separate from not just one team but just like two and a little bit of a gap there. that's clearly what we got with with the zags and bears. That are seem to be leapfrogging. Each other depending on the result so far right now if i offered you five hundred dollars to to find five hundred actual bones within two hours. How would you go about that. You think does it. Count if i if i count my own bones you have to you have to. You have to lay him down. I wanna see them on a table. It gets that doesn't count in trivia time. Okay how many bones are in the human body seven. Now come on. Give me a real. This is i feel like this is relatively decibel. We'll let me let me look. I got a little bone nair money finger each of my fingers bone. Yeah yeah bones you actually. I believe the hand has more bones than any other part of the body. Feel it. So this tin yeah. Okay so i'm gonna start with tin. And then i feel like there's got to be a few there each magog mccullough twenty eight thirty feel like i got a neck bone count as one thirty i might have to in there. I'd say something like eighty seven eighty seven bones in the human body. I think. Eighty seven bunks. I think that's how many i had. I can't speak for other people i believe. Hold on. i'm going a how i'm gonna it's around two hundred. I must say it's two. oh eight. how many bones in the human body you. I don't think i have that many think it's two. Oh six to six eighty seven would be certainly interesting. I don't know if the if if we'd be podcasting if our species evolved to just eighty seven bones. But hey i feel like i don't need most of mine. What do you need all his bones for honestly. You know evolution and all that good stuff by the way. I don't want to get this off the rails and we'll get to this more in the reviews sousa quick. Tease the response to the dodo. Section of the last podcast was as enthusiastic as any topic. We've had in months and months and months. Who would have ever thought. I ordered a dodo. Bird shirt amazon. It should be here to by tomorrow night here lined up. I can't wait to get it. Says we will rise again. Which by the way. It's an extinct species so that's not how extinction works. But you know what i do like the spirit and i'm debating following with you. I had one when it was the one that i sent. It said never forget. Never ever forget it. S stupid birds needed to be a little more skeptical of the dutch. They trusted too much. They trusted too much and they got burned. Okay yes i'm with you. I would take the field over gonzaga baylor but let me make the argument about why. Maybe you shouldn't a one right now. It appears barring weird. They're going to be one season the instantly tournament. And i know that it just takes a little. You know maybe one injury here losing streak there baylor more susceptible than gonzaga to this type of stuff because the league affiliation but the the thing sometimes people forget is that only four teams can get number one in the ncaa tournament. So i assume two of them will be gonzaga bay there but it's not guaranteed but for the sake of the conversation play along. We're gonna assume that those are going to be two of the number one seat a number one seed usually wins the ncaa tournament people. Throw this out there. All the time like single elimination tournament. You never know you never know. And it's not always the best team but it is usually a number one seed trivia time. Ten of the past thirteen national champions till the past thirteen have been number one seeds in the ncaa tournament. Can you name the three. That were that one at all. They wanted all but they warned upon see. It's only happened three times in the past. Thirteen tournaments share. Outsourced this question to our audiences i answer this. I want to say by the way my blind guess since it went to sixty four teams and eighty five that the one seed wins the tournament. I'm going to say it's about forty three forty four percent of the time. I think it's less than fifty percent of the time. A one seed wins it. But you're talking about the past. Thirteen did ten of the past thirteen. So i'm about Starting in two thousand seven. When florida as a one seed won the ncaa tournament the year before so kansas. It was a one-seat. Oh nine carolina. It was a one. C twenty ten is duke. It was a one. C twenty eleven is yukon which is not a one-seat so that's one of them that's correct. They were three zero three seats. Twenty twelve's kentucky was a one seed. Thirteen was louisville. It was a one. C fourteen is yukon. It was a seven c. That's number two. Fifteen is duke. A one-seat over wisconsin. Sixteen i think is nova as a two seed winning. I think november two seed and sixteen seventeen carolina's a one eighteen. Novas one nine hundred. Virginia's one talk to me. Ding ding ding ding ding or laser. That was impressive. that'd be gone. What do you want from me. You got it exactly right and you got the seats right. Although i think i helped you with yukon was a three seat in two thousand eleven just slow to take but i was. I was on it. Don't worry i was. On florida's seven and one florida's a three and two thousand and six five is yukon. A one four is yukon a one three syracuse a three to maryland to one. One duke is a one two thousand michigan state. I think it's a one but it might be a to anyway. Go back to gonzaga. So so i'm with you. I would take the field but a once. He does normally in recent history of once. He does win the tournament way more often than not. And if you're assuming once he's gonna win it this year will then you really picking the other two one seed over gonzaga baylor. I know you're actually not doing that. But i think you get my point. I would take the phil gonzaga baylor. They have separated themselves. Gonzaga by the way became this weekend the first team to score at least eighty five points and each of its first twelve games since loyola marymount in the one thousand nine hundred ninety one season and kim palm now gives the zags believe for the first time a better than fifty percent chance of finishing the regular season undefeated their projected to be at least twelve point favorites in every game going forward baylor they only have one quad one win right now it's over illinois by double digits so the bears haven't played the same type of schedule that gonzaga's played but all eleven wins by double digits. Seven of the eleven have been by at least twenty nine points. They haven't trailed by more than four points at any point in any game this season and the next four games are west virginia on tuesday at home there at texas tech on saturday. They got a showdown with kansas on january. Eighteenth at home and in their at oklahoma state on january twenty third right now each of those four games project as quadrant one opportunities so the bears. A bill henderson's for bears used to be built. The baird announced drew's bears though. The bears are ranked second in the country and killing everybody. They only have one quadrant one win but that should change soon all right. Gp what about the rest of the week. Because you're right. It wasn't a huge weekend but there were. There are no shortage of interesting results. At least so what's what do you wanna head on. Well like i mentioned at the top. Purdue upset michigan state inside the breslin center. Ohio state upset records inside the rack meantime. Kansas struggled but still got past. Oklahoma inside allen fieldhouse kentucky destroyed florida inside the dome. Ucla one at arizona bruins are now five zero and the pac twelve iowa beat minnesota by double digits on sunday afternoon The most interesting thing. I think clearly is kentucky looking like a quality basketball team. I don't know if they've done too much damage to their resume. Like cain they can they be great enough to pull out of the hole that they've clearly dug for themselves but they do look like a quality basketball team at least in this moment. Yeah that's the number two item in my wrap up so kentucky still needs to win two more games. It's got a big one. On tuesday against alabama winner that will be in control of first place in the afc. And we'll obviously recap on wednesday mornings podcast but the got keenum brooks back. What's what's interesting is. They haven't had terence clark for three games and kentucky's one three in a row here. Stats real quick. It's shooting forty six point eight percent beyond three. It's past three games. It was shooting twenty five percent before that it shooting seventy seven point four percent from the line before this past three game win streak was at sixty six point two percent. It's up to eight point seven blocks and eight point seven steals per game in this win streak and it was hovering around five per game with each of those and listen. The winds have been inspiring. There was no doubt about it with that. Florida when kim brooks Listen he he was important. Twenty four minutes off the bench. Twelve point six four dimes. And all yeah. I don't want to overreact. I still don't think kentucky is going to the tournament outlooks mystic right now than it was and it can get there and it's capable of winning the auto but if they hold sec tournament. But i'm still not. I'm not there yet. They get the home. Game against bama on tuesday which is big if they lose it I think that would be deflating if they win it and talk about a team that's really going to be feeling itself and rightfully so yes. I thought that was notable. Was i believe it was the first loss in about twenty two twenty three years by that many points for florida inside the odell directly. Do you tie kentucky. Going on a three game. Winning streak to terence clark not playing in these three games i mean. I don't know it's bizarre. Because i wouldn't have thought that i thought kentucky's best player. This season was going to be terri- clark. There was a lot of buzz about it being. Bj boston heading into the season. Some thought it might even be livy. Sorry i always felt that clark was going to be the guy A lengthy wind combo guard kinda complete three positions. It just hasn't been that. I don't know i mean i just don't i do. I think it's coincidence. Maybe a little here but brooks come back you have. The dante allen breakout game by the way since then overall he's thirteen and twenty five from three point range and you know he's still getting his his spots there so they are they coming together but we still got to see a little bit more goodwin here. They got a double ot win against mississippi state and then they they eat by vanderbilt last week. So it's there. But i still gotta to see more at home than at auburn then at which got smoked if kentucky's for real it wins all three of these six game win streak and then it's back in the saddle but i got to see it a little skeptical right now. I don't think it's a coincidence that they've gotten better without parents. Clark like forget everything you know about parents clark. Are you know about parents clark. Forget about where he was ranked coming out of high school for him in a mock draft. And let's just focus on the seven games. He played at kentucky so far. This season playing thirty minutes a game. So he's on the court all the time. He's taking more than ten shots per game. So he's putting the ball up a lot and he's not making them forty three percent from the field. Twenty two point seven percent from three point range. Oh any turns the ball over three times per day like you eliminate that from your basketball team. You get better. I'm not saying that kentucky. We'll long-term better without parents clock. But i don't think it's it's you have to I don't think it's crazy to suggest. Well th that's what they were getting from that player. He is no longer a part of anything and whatever they're using in in in that in his absence which is donte. Allen is better like donte allen but a better basketball player than tears. Clark has in this season that's undeniable. And so i don't think like i'm not putting it all on tehran's cart like i'm not suggesting john calipari should redshirt him the rest of the season and not use them but i do think there are better without him because he was not good. I agree with you. And i do agree with that. And we'll we'll play. I know we've been talking about kentucky. But frankly they're still interesting on a weekly basis like if they lost and we wouldn't be talking about him but they got the win. They got the win. Big cam brooks look like everything. They were hoping he would be by the way obama. It one ninety. Four ninety two auburn. How much did you get a chance to see any that early on saturday. It was a wild ride. I had it on. I'm not gonna act like. I watched every possession but it wouldn't have been something i would have normally been watching it that time because it was an early game right. Yes and there were like interesting early games. Nc state miami was interesting. Surpri miami missing two of its top three scores and does a wins at nc state. That was a bit of a surprise rutgers. Getting run off the court by ohio state inside the rack. That was a surprise. So i was more focused on those two games than i was alabama auburn but it was on and i was aware that they were playing a fun. Uptempo basketball game. Yes yeah just quick on this keep up with the whiparound but yeah bam nine. Three four known league. Play one ninety. Four ninety sharieff. Cooper wound up playing for auburn and he was balling out early. It looks like a pretty good story. And then they put John penny on him and the kind of shut down. He had a couple of bad shots late knob. Couldn't steal the upset win but it was a it was a good game in a big win for obama. Obviously their fans are all totally invested. Money nice national championship game and so i understand that obama had fifteen steals. You mentioned rutgers so it started seven and now at seven four three and four in the league. It's next four scheduled games. Friday against number eight wisconsin dinner at indiana on january twenty four january twenty eighth. That's hosting michigan state which is ranked but won't be in the in the monday poll and it's at northwestern if it goes one and three in those games it's gonna you know it's going to become a bubble team. Just keep an eye on that i. I still like rutgers but the losses are are piling up. I wanna bring up one game that you didn't mention just because i talked to the coach on sunday morning about this. Usc one at arizona at arizona state thursday and saturday. It's now eight into and don't think most people realize this because frankly they're not ranked play out west and they're just normally not super relevant. But they haven't had ethan anderson their starting point guard for seven games. And it's an eight in two team and they've won games on the road. Day one at arizona and arizona state for the first time in the same season since nineteen eighty-five. What about this. I heard on the broadcast last night. Ucla arizona this. This was the first time. Ucla and usc have both swept the arizona schools in the same season on the road ever. I couldn't believe this day. I knew i couldn't believe this. I heard in fact. I didn't mention it on the pod because i didn't know if i could trust it but whatever it's the i couldn't believe that that had happened. That seems unthinkable to me. But it did happen. Well you know it's believable now because you know who's stock in that sideline down in westwood. We know cronin hashtag. Neil can stay hashtag absolutely good on. Ucla we got an interesting top of the race of the pack twelve kind of forming with the schools but ever had a wonderful back-back set of games here and he is still maintain. It should be a top three. Pick the next year or the nba drafter. But we'll wait and see on that that was just a a good win and usc establishing meanwhile shorthanded now sub five hundred. I thought that was gonna win. A team is going to win the league. And it's kinda it's kinda slip spiraling away One other news item. I talked to dan. Hurley late saturday night yukon. Six and wants. This is what you can't answer really hoping for here james book would be out. He's out hurley. Told me that book nights gonna have. His elbow looked at monday. We'll have more answers. If it's a long term thing long-term in quotes that would be a couple of weeks but he might not miss more than one or two other games there but uconn sixty one with a three one mark in the big east. It one at henkel. I did find out first. Time ever at henkel used on the previous pod. Indeed that was the case and butler aaron thompson back. You didn't have its best player at one by twelve this is the second best offensive rebounding team in the country and maybe uconn becomes a bigger deal in two or three weeks but just thought it was worth bringing up their six and one. I think there had to the tournament and we still got to figure out what's going to happen in this league but it's got a good chance of being the third best team if it's not. Maybe at xavier. Cobi jones had a winning shot to beat providence. That's total stinger for your fryers fan but Jones after the game revealed to reporters parish that he hits this winner and he lost his grandfather. Just a few days ago and it's he was extremely close like his grandfather was one of those family members that growing up. He was at every single one of kobe. Jones's games just lost him so our our hearts and thoughts go out to him and his his family for him to hit a big shot like that. I thought that was a really really cool moment there so that was another Another notable result on a relatively quiet but a but a decent weekend and we're starting to see some things take a little bit of shape here. i i feel like the next week or so. We'll we'll bring some more separation overall. I mean doing what it did minnesota getting. It's it's you know vengeance if you will be lost an not administered on christmas day and then it had no issue today gp. I watched all of that game leading into my bears and look had like thirty three weeks camp at another really good game and my my takeaways just like you know. i know. I always not the greatest offensive team. But they're a championship contender. The offense straight of goodness luca. Garza every i wanna watch pursued. Sometimes it's like he's playing against you know j. j. guys in high school. It's just like give me the damn ball. I'm gonna lumber my way. I'm going to score this down low. You cannot stop me so that was another good one by iowa. A top five team. The last team i would want to touch on is can be accurately described this way. I want you to tell me what you think of a team that i'm describing this way. Their eighty fifth in the net there now two and four in their league they are. They have zero quadrant. One wins there. Owen three in quadrant opportunities. That's i just described a basketball team trivia time. Can you name that tees eighty fifth. What's their record. Their overall record is eight and four. They're two and four in their league. Eighty fifth in the net zero and three and quadrant one game so they have zero quadrant. One wins did they win or lose this weekend. They lost at home michigan state. That's michigan state eighty fifth in the net two and four in the big ten. Oh and three quarter opportunities. Like i tweeted this on saturday morning. They lost on friday night. And sort of what i wrote about in the i read about somewhere between two hundred and fifty three hundred and fifty words for the top of the top twenty five and one every morning and the only team that relevant team that played on friday night it was. It was michigan. State purdue game. Some writing about michigan state. And i just sort of pointed out like the fourth kim bomb eighty fifth in the net. Oh and three in quadrant one games two and four in the big ten like oh by the way kim palm currently projects them to finish eight and twelve and the big ten. Like i you know. The targeting eight and twelve in the big ten is not going to get them in. They're going to have to outperform the pushback from michigan state. Fans one guy just arguing facts. We live in a world now where people argue facts. It's amazing i. I don't know how we got to the stupid plays but but we're here so i'm like michigan state's owen three in quadrant one opportunities and a guys like. Oh what about the win over rutgers. What about the win at duke. Yeah those don't qualify. You could look this stuff up yourself. You have to tweet me to go. Look it up yourself. It's not like i got secret. Access codes to the net rankings. You can look yourself. Dukes data quarter online right now. Rutgers not own right now might be someday when it is. I'll phrase that differently but right now. Michigan state is oh and three quarter and went opportunities. Eighty fifth in the net two and four in the big ten and projected by kim palm to finish fourteen and twelve over all eight and twelve in the big ten. That will not be good enough so nobody else is really talking about this and in fact when i bring it up there. I seem to get hit with backlash every time. Like you must have forgot who coaches michigan state. No i didn't forget who coaches michigan's day but sometimes even great coaches can have teams. That aren't good enough to make the tournament and it's at least possible not definite but possible. That is what tim tom. Izzo heads right now. It's definitely possible rocket watson playing. Well enough it's also got a bother. That staff trivial williams. I watched most of that game on friday. Trivial williams was beast. He had twenty six. No other purdue player and more than seven i mean. He carried them to the win. It was an ugly. When you could practically see the grin through painters gator. At the end they knew they had it. They got late. They want it. And yeah. I mean that was a that was a necessary win by the way for which eight and five and sit at three and three in the big ten in just seems to be one of those teams. That's destined to dance on the bubble but in a better spot right now. The michigan state and right. I just brought it up. Oh this is damn interesting. I mean you're the big ten sicily interesting. Look at the schedule. If they don't lose any of these games to postponement there at iowa on thursday it would be. So i owe and so michigan say state the spartans one that though then homed indiana on sunday home to illinois after that and they're at rutgers ohio state man. Oh man you're right though it's michigan state. It's an eight four. It's not like a tr- it's not a kentucky record right now. They got a high. They got a high profile not necessarily yet high quality win against duke and so because of that maybe their vulnerability has been floating off the radar. But as i just said a few minutes back they will not be in the top twenty five refresh on monday morning and that game at iowa. Certainly that's looming. That's the kind of game. Where if iowa played well in one like eighty nine seventy four. Then it's kind of like the. I think more people start to notice but everyone listening. Now you're in early because gps rightfully pointing this out. There's a lot of work to be done. And that's normally not the case. Don't confuse what's happening right now with michigan state in years where it's kinda struggled a little bit non but it's gotten a good winner two and it's kinda rounded out in form normally when we get here. There's not this much lacking on the resume the way it is right now. Yeah i think this is also a situation where the people misleads people. A little bit. Because people find it hard to believe things that michigan take really miss the and be that Somebody's talking about a team. That's ranked in the people right now missing the tournament. But you're right when that pull up dates money. They're not going to be in it. And you know the truth is there's not much there. There's no substance to the resume at this point. Eight four doesn't sound awful and it is it but they are to inform the big twelve. I mean big ten. Their owen three in quarter. One games and computer numbers are not good. You know even and i know. The net can fluctuates a lot. Right now you'll kentucky went from the one twenties or thirties into the eighties. Just after one game. So i don't swear by any of this stuff but i don't care what computer numbers you look at michigan state in a dangerous place. Like if you're outside you're inside. The top forty can bomb. You can reasonably expect you're in you're in the tournament like there are exceptions to that every year but you could almost every year but you can reasonably assume but once you get outside of the forty year in a situation and eighty at the net. That's a real bad place to be. So this is all i'm saying. They are in more danger of missing the tournament for the first time in twenty two. Nc double a. tournament's then most people seem to realize and unless they outperformed the computers. They are not going to make the tournament. That's not even a prediction that's a fact if they don't outperformed the computers what. The computer is likely at this moment. They will not make the insulate tournament. Like you said the next one. It's a tough one at iowa. Which by the way the hawkeyes twenty two and one inside carbohydrate hawkeye in the past twenty three games so good luck winning their trivia time. Who was the last team to beat iowa at home against michigan state. Gasol this stupid. I'll just tell you purdue last march. But i will emily march twenty two and one inside. Carver hawkeye past twenty three games. Purdue beat them last march. that's the one. They only lost twice at home last season. So went to purdue and the other trivia. Can this one first of all year. When i say it. You're going to remember it. But you're not going to remember it until i say it. Maybe that won't be first of all you're getting loosey-goosey with these trivia times. It used to be a special now. You're just like it's just like you know you're tossing and like toothpaste and the cart at the store here. Whatever saints the questions iowa at home season once was to purdue and the other one was to here right. I just i am trying to think this is how right i am. You will not remember as soon as i say. Oh yeah. I remember that. I hate this. Come on man. I'm going to tell you the whole on in leaguer outta leak. You can't take trivia hints. That's an appropriate. Even ashley very much allow. You gave me hints earlier The president united states calls the secretary of state and georgia to try to influence him to to inappropriate. Came changed the election. And now you think you can just ask for hints in trivia time country. Were team was. It's not the way our country works. Norlander you're add a line. What was the team depaul last november. Fifteen year you remember that right. You remember that terrible. Come on the pass. The paul so anyway michigan state's next game at iowa if they lose that when they will be expected to lose it they'll drop to two and five in the big ten and be owen for in quadrant one opportunity. Do you want to get to some apple reviews laid on me. I love the apple. Is i listen. I only got one in the chamber. I before you read these. I have to say this everyone. The reviews are getting better. They're getting weirder. The titles are making me cackle out loud and asked my wife. What's going on in there. So i don't know which ones gp's going to lay out here. Keep it up. I want more than they used to be something that i would just kind of going in check on now now. It is required. I'm like saving them up and the other thing is this. If i'm getting this much joy out of them if you if you are listener that's simply logged one. Go find them. I think you'll identify you'll relate with the fellow listeners. they are they are wonderful. Make them as interesting random rambling as you want. I can't get enough of them. They have taken it to another level in recent weeks. What do you got. I was legit to laughing out loud at some of these as well. So thank you guys for taking the time to not just go leave five stars in a nice comment. You could do that actually in ten seconds but for anybody. Who's you know writing paragraphs and tying little themes of the podcast into it a. It's helpful so thank you but be. It's funny so the laugh. I'm having a good time with him. I pulled out a few. We can't read them all. But i did pull out a few and we'll just bounce through real quick the first one i got it comes from jason in la. Here's what he wrote. he's last week. You read a review from someone who knows nothing about college basketball but still loves the podcast. How about this for a compliment. I am a huge college basketball fan. And i enjoy this show so much that i actually subscribe to the podcast at. Gp's memphis radio. Show where i hear about all kinds of things. I'm not interested in daily updates on memphis offensive efficiency akin and ad reads for dinner in computer repair shops and multiple barbecue establishments. I won't likely have the pleasure of patronizing nonetheless. I enjoy it norlander. I've got some love for you to. I grew up in connecticut. Inking confirmed drake's cakes are in fact. The thing i myself was partial to yodel in ring dings and shouts to my usc trojans off to a great start perhaps due to our advanced comfort level with playing empty each. He wrote that he didn't think we'd ever actually talk about ucla organically and yet we did. We did earlier because norlander you you you said you spoke to andy infield this morning. How about that. Some unintended synergy there. By the way you're familiar with the rings of yodelers may never mind about a review. What i had a. I had a just a sick addiction to rings in high school trying to think of what southern southern thing. That would be everybody who lives in my neighborhood would know it but you might not feel like i feel like what the ring ding was to the north east. It's definitely similar although these are also available to it's the little debbie's oatmeal cream pie. Basically not the same kind of food. But that's the same kind of you know those were around correct. Yes but you don't have little debbie's we do but it wasn't as i don't think it was as popular in the northeast as the yodel. The ring ding. I feel like the twinkie. By the way is really the cake that is kind of universal like you yet twinkies twinkies. We're everywhere of course. Okay there we go this. Are you familiar with the crystal burger. No shot you. Don't know what a crystal is now like i said. Hey do you wanna get. You wanna swing through crystals. You would have no idea what i'm talking about. I'm guessing it's something like a white castle. That's exactly right. It's like a white cat a little bitty hamburgers you know when when you've been out all night and you get your crystal you don't. I did think that was mostly a southern thing. Waffle house also mostly ascended. Everybody's familiar with office. Well yes but unfortunately that's That's why whenever we go to peach jam or final fourteen atlanta like. I'm with way more down. We're getting waffles anyone because it's like a once a year there's a waffle house like five minutes from my house and pre pandemic during pandemic doesn't matter jampacked everyday people don't care about covert inside that waffle house some scattered smothered covered chunked indicts so Yeah waffle house is a is a southern signature and usc eight and two. Evan mobile looks great. next one comes from daily carlson. He said there ever were a podcast. That was the verbal equivalent of hitting a shot from the snout. It would be the college basketball. Podcast while i do not think there has been near enough. Pauli pauli cap at depaul discussion this year. I have as an arkansas native. Been pleased with the level of slobber hog discussion to offset. I have only been listening to the podcast for a year. But this has been one of the major contributors to my new found love for the sport of college basketball. My birthday danny rights is sunday january. Ten and nothing would make for a better birthday present than the here norlander call. The hawks live on the pod. Happy birthday danny norlander. Can you call the hawks for this man. Do you know how to call the. Don't so i did read this. I did read this review. And i don't know how to call them and i don't feel like i should. But what do we do. We pick sui okay. It's it's i don't want to call the highest because you're supposed to woo pig sui woo pig sui woo pigs zooey. Razorbacks started in the nineteen twenties so several centuries after the dodo birds. We're done with this. Drove me crazy today. So i actually i took when you look this stuff up you might. There might be a funny story there so i was like okay. Weirded this come from where did like wide. How did the stupid stupid stupid did chance come on. Just be real this is. This is the most ridiculous shannon college. It's ridiculous the scoring dana. Altman out of the job to go. When you're bored. Google dana hall and calling the hogs. It is the most awkward thing you've ever. Why step into its data stain. There finally just left creighton to take a you know a big power conference job because at the time creighton i think was missouri valley conference so he gets his. Sec job gets introduced. And they're like. I actually think he brought it up if when i watched the clip back. But it's like next thing. you know. Dana altman is calling. the hong. never looked. Nobody's ever looked more awkward than dana. Altman gone three days later. He's like creighton cannot. Please come back to omaha. I can't be down here. Call time so i'd go to youtube or just google it and i'm like okay. Maybe there's a good story and that can shared on the podcast goof on it so i find the perfect clip. It's like local news in fatal and this woman is like the stupid video is like what's the story behind the hall. Well this is perfect. I'm gonna watch this five minute video. News segment the entire segment is a slum of walking around asking people in arkansas. So do you know where the hall came from. And everyone's like no and then she and then she's like me neither. That's the whole thing like if you could do a whole story aware to the whole come from without actually getting an answer to your action like if i were running the new stage. It'd be like you didn't you didn't accomplish anything. Tell us the story or let's find something else to talk about. So that drove me crazy and it's actually not a great story. Apparently some fans were at arkansas game. Football game team's losing and they started calling the hogs. Just sort of just sort of happened in arkansas. Came back and won the game and so then they started doing it again the next week and next thing you know you're you're showing downey i mean the same thing down shots way way better. Next hogs call the hawks. It is crazy like this is what is this is my very but still southern attempt at calling the hawk because i got i got best friends at a former roommate. Arkansas arkansas ooh pay sui tag suey pig silly razorbacks but you have to have when you do you have to move your fingers around and slowly. Rise them in the air and then the razorbacks tiger woods fist-bump now you try it. What are we going next. Gp from carson keilor. here's what carson wrote said. i'm a twenty one year old college golfer. Doubling as a massive college sports fan. The podcast gives the best unbiased college basketball content out there. There are also the only pod that understands just how hard it is to pull out a win pinnacle bank thank goodness my hawkeye's don't have to make the trip this year as they are one in four in that building. They haven't won a game pinnacle bank since two thousand fifteen norlander. It's true. I went and looked it up. I alwa- has lost four straight trips of pinnacle bank. Mazing that's amazing. I did not realize that. Of course i o of all teams of all teams pinnacle banks by the way continues to pay huge huge dividends. So yeah thank god i was. You know they got to set the get a one-seat the season. You wouldn't wanna trip pinnacle bank in that op. So thank the lord. They don't have to make that trip razorbacks from chelsea pain. Ready for this one. What chelsea chelsea says a started listening to the podcast indirectly because my husband is a huge college basketball fan. Then i fell in love with the podcasts banter over things like how always kids toys on the floor. And how you how you can just google everything on your phone now. My husband and i tried to listen to the podcast. Whenever we are driving together we are going on almost ten years of marriage and it has brought us even closer. I still tin zone out when you are actually talking about basketball so you can put markers when you guys talk about other stuff. That would be awesome. But i am pro wondering like matt norlander. Thanks for the good time. That comes from jealousy. Amazing that this podcast has made her marriage stronger. While making the mind worse i knew it. I guess does not make my merit stronger because my wife will be like. Hey i've got to run to the store and fill out an online order that somebody just made Can can i do that now. I say no. It's sunday night. I have to record a podcast podcast. So the bike of major mayor stronger. My marriage is rock solid and good all the same. The sunday nights. Never an issue depends on that wednesday friday morning. Balancing around of a little bit a bit of a deal here. I think you've got one more. Let me let me jump in here though. Okay let me jump in by the great story. And i love the idea. That's not the first one like that. We've had a few of those reviews over the years where there have been married couples. Podcast absolutely love it. okay. I just some of these. Things are just unbelievable man. They're like these reviews. We don't have enough time. It would literally take ninety minute. Podcast to get them all in so thank you to everyone that keep doing this and i just what is this. What is this review. What is this. Gary top insight on and off the court gary parrish who sounds more like an upbeat faster pace talking tiki barber. Even though yes he's white speaks his mind. And a blunt insightful and comical manner alongside the mediation matt norlander who while sounding like he could be cooper sheldon slightly cooler. Older brother can always seem to keep the conversation train. From barreling the tracks peres stars. Delightfully coming around the mountain at full steam. The pair makes sensational rolodex of college. Basketball knowledge giving all who listen a calming sense of confidence for the march madness bracket picks tiki barber. That's going in the context preview. Just so we know just clear tiki barber. Do i sound like tiki barber. I don't know. I don't think so at all the the review straight above that by the way this is the one more. I gotta get there then we can do. Flynn gary peirce looks. I never know how to respond to that. What people expect. I don't know what people expect from me. This we tell you what you should expect very little not much. This is going back a few months like six months ago. When we got into this he goes. I've have been listening to the show for a long time and finally saw gp on the first time on tv on cbs. Sports play way. Oh my goodness the name on this review is not upset just disappointed. Oh my god. It's so good. The only way i can describe it as hearing gandalf's voice expecting them to look like gandalf and then turns out to be professor x love. You guys love the pod. Camel fights just lost it. When i read that this morning. What the hell are we doing. I want more of that leak. I got two more and then we'll get out of here once from this was mark. W here's what he wrote. He said even as i have gotten busier at school. This podcast is one of the only pockets that i have not dropped from my podcast rotation i listen every podcast without fail. Gary are the best combo out there. However i have some criticism for dead leg which is difficult for me to do since he was kind enough to come over and talk to me and my brother detergent night at the maryland michigan state game last season. He's a my mission. This year is to track every single trivia time to see how both of you performed. I was hoping to keep secrets. I could spring it on you guys at the end of the season. Denying you the opportunity to give each other more difficult trivia times to ruin each other scores. But here's my problem. Norlander is barely giving gary any trivia times as of january two thousand and twenty one. Gary has trivia time norlander. Thirty four times norlander has trivia time gary only twenty three times since may while some discrepancy is unavoidable and fine norlander having nearly fifty percent more trivia time opportunities. Gp is not appropriate for comparison purposes. I don't want a situation like ohio. State only playing six games and getting into the college football playoff four months to go in the season. I hope norlander get back in the game. And even up the trivia time district distribution. Good luck love this. Remember being this gentleman. That was the last game that i traveled to If you don't include going to a bubble is. That was the last one i went to. I'm all about this. The problem is this superior says the prep for the podcast. He gets down these rabbit holes. Men like he's looking into stats into wikipedia pages. He's looking up dodo birds and the next thing i know he's got five trivia times loaded in like on this very one is trivia. Timing me about paul winning at iowa. Oh tell me tell me when it became against the rules for you to prep for your podcast. Listen i'll be locked and loaded one more from me. Maybe one less for you and we'll eventually get there. I love the idea. That someone's protracting this by the way no idea what my hit rate is i'm just hoping above seventy percent with this trivia time but it's duly noted i can take the criticism apply to myself and i'm going to drop some more trivia times on gp. Okay last one. and i. i made this last for a reason. Because i do get the question that i get to. I get it a lot. And then there was the chikako bears playoff game today so it will provide an opportunity for you to touch on that comes from somebody who identified as golden gate. mike. I'm gonna assume fake. I love cohen. Assuming say no no no no. No no no no. There's no assumption. Mike anderson is listening to this podcast. Thank you. my question is from mike anderson. Better be the. That is one of my favorite things of the podcast. Is that we. We just named mike and mike. I don't even remember the context. I remember oh. I do chris mullin. It's scheduled game that's right at the new radio on state warriors saint johnson out. There looks damn good reason whatsoever and they won became golden gate mike that night and for the rest of time schedules a game to go back to the bay area. Take saint john's and then like he's no longer the coach. Mike anderson's gotta go to the pizza ranked arizona team to do it. So here's what going get my growth. I vote this old this potter review for over a year now but better late never. Gp norlander quite the dynamic duo. These guys are a pleasure to listen to and for me. It stems from their shared love of america best sport. I'm not embarrassed to say. I geek out on college basketball. Just like these guys as a saint john's fan. This has been my go-to podcast for college basketball. With the disappointment of last year's tournament getting cancelled it was a bit too. Sad to stay dialed into college basketball. Since march but with our new season. I'm happy to be back and getting back into the five getting back on a bicycle. And gpa norlander habit missed a beat us props and thanks to these guys for all they do with the pot. Now i do have to ask given that. I'm a big general sports fan. Gpa norlander and a big mets fan gp. I enjoy hearing you guys dish on your favorite teams. So what are the stories behind mississippi born. Gp being a diehard mets fan in suburban connecticut being a bears fan. I get this question all the time. At least the fifth time you've ever explained this on the pot which is fine but yes about to hear the same damn explanation again. But i don't know if i've ever explained my bears fan ugo i i still the i get the question all the time so much so that i just ignored on twitter now because i like i've told it a million times but like real quick so some of it is just timing. I was born in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven. I started playing baseball when i was five years old. So like nine hundred eighty two. So i was watching baseball and back then. Young folks won't be a blow your mind but you can watch every baseball team. There was no mlb subscription. You could only watch baseball. That actually came on tv and only three teams were regularly on cable the cubs on wgn the braves on tbs and the mets on wr. So the mets were one of the teams that i could actually watch on w. r. which later became. Wwl are beyond that the jackson. Mets were the aa affiliate of the mets in jackson mississippi so there was a mississippi connection like david johnson who managed the eighty six minutes to a world series previously managed. The jackson mets so there was a mississippi connection beyond that. Again timing darrell. Strawberry comes up in one thousand nine hundred three win rookie of the year doc. Gooden comes up in. Nineteen eighty-four went rookie of the year. So they had good young talent. Then they want a world series in eighty six so it was all rooted in the timing of me becoming a baseball player and the ability to watch the mets on tv the connection to mississippi and dock and darryl coming along right as i was getting interested and boy it was really fun like those first few years doc. Gooden darryl strawberry world series and then it's just been not great for like the past forty years but but but but francisco lindores on his way. Wealthiest owner in baseball is now the owner of the new york. Mets is a good time to jump. There's any young people out there trying to become baseball fans. This would be a good time to become a mets fan. I i had to suffer for the past forty or so years but But i would hope in the next or good. Yeah we've we've been waiting about the same amount of time here for our team favorite teams to win a championship. I've said this before. The bears and mets are very similar in the sense that they had not just championship teams in the mid eighties. But i kana teams. Everybody remembers the eighty six minutes. Everybody remembers those eighty five bears and they created a national fan base. Because the mets wrong cable and because the bears had walter payton. Jim mcmahon in shades. Frigerator you could tell the story but then since then it's been just almost miserable ever since like been the mets and bear stories are very similar. They are you know. I didn't expect the bears to win on. I'll get to why. I'm a fan. But i didn't expect him to be the saints. But it's just it's deflating defeating. When jimmy graham gets a touch on the last play get to nine points but in effect like total garbage time stuff and they just fall right on their face need need to change their So i'm a bears fan Despite living in connecticut Having grown up in vermont My parents are both from chicago. They were both born. There lived there. They met there and then. I was just appropriately brainwashed when i was a kid as i'm doing my own boys right now and no regrets. Bears are just frustrating. But i do not. i'm. I'm serious when i say this. Why always have a certain connection empathy with with college. Basketball fans like to love to love listening to podcasts and liver teams and all that stuff. I'm not kidding. I do not have the intellectual or emotional capability to not root for the bears. The bears could lose every single game for a decade. And i still would be incapable of not ana genetic and dna level of rooting for them. No matter what. It is or blessing than curse. I guess but that's basically at. My mom is the one my dad's not so much a huge bears fan hill route from but He went to florida. He's more he cares more about the gators But my mom absolutely dyed in the wool. Huge huge i mean she had season tickets to the bears growing up all that good stuff so that's basically parents were. There made me one and so here. I am in connecticut rooting for team. That's now stuck in limbo. Eight and eight make the playoffs only because they go to seven teams. Not gonna get a quarterback destined to be anywhere between five and nine one team for the next half decade while all these other teams are either terrible getting great. Quarterbacks are already have great quarterback so that's a lot of fun that it from a boy. anthony miller yemen. That's just not good. What's he doing man getting thrown out of this game he is. I said this last week. Moody's owner would be. He has been he has memphis. Boys don't put up with somebody yapping at yup. Yup we come up for your throat and then That didn't help things there so he'll be with them next year but yeah he's like every chicago person i thought was like that's it for anthony miller. I'm done but like i think he's a contract wise. He's got another year there so as it is as we record this by the way shouts to Shots to the browns fans. I really don't think i'm going to be jinxing you. And if i do my sincere apologies. Twenty eight to nothing in the second quarter here so You've been waiting forever. Bills fans and browns fans bills playoff game since ninety five. They got one. Browns obviously hadn't been in the playoffs and so two been a long time coming there. So i think there are a lot of fan base. Has that have been Very hungry and hungry for this kind of stuff so my my genuine appreciation and In good vibes. Do you guys for for doing that. So that there. We go little little inside our homes and our own our own fandom there. That's that's pretty much all. I got genuinely fired up for this baseball season like my job is college basketball and i do love it but i get way more fired up for baseball season. I'm kind of with you in that. Well college college basketball in the nfl. Or like one a one b to me so. I'm always fired up for nfl in the bears. But i like i'm just. I'm i'm always super college. Hoops as well with baseball. I like it but cubs got to be good for me to really get into it and we're going. They're going the wrong way. So it's to be like you know i'm not that particularly just about baseball but you should have every right to be. I mean there's a real reason to feel optimism there with the mets because they're building it and you finally got the new owner. That's the thing like. I love the ownership group at the bears. Change not changing in the owner. Like i don't know how much you know about him. And we'll get into a second but like he's he is the wealthiest owner in major league baseball. He's a hedge fund guy. He is the inspiration for the character in billions. And he grew up in queens. He grew up a mets fan which is a whole 'nother level of like he. He's already on the record. Saying i'm not i this this is not. I'm not trying to make money. Yeah i got other ways to make money. I'm trying to win world series. And so like you hear that like let's go. Let's go let's go. He doesn't care he he cares about this as much as i do. Any got the money to make a great. It's a great spot to be in for sure. Shelf the devon daddy south charleston south carolina south terry. Fm uil gene shasta lar-. Now thank you guys once again for listening to the college basketball podcast. In the middle of the absolute dominance. Pandemic i ever lived through. This is the worst worst norlander the like. I'd never seen one anything close to this. I pray we never get another one anything like this. 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B.I.G. Interview | UNC Bears Head Football Coach, Ed McCaffrey!

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B.I.G. Interview | UNC Bears Head Football Coach, Ed McCaffrey!

"It is is cato june. All pro linebacker super bowl champion. You listen to that thirteen. Ten k of k as forty four minutes after the hour. Welcome back to the show or live from the collision specialists studios and joining me now on our. I advantage hotline. Unc football coach coach. Ed mccaffrey coach. Thanks so much for giving us some time and we really appreciate your time. Oh it's my pleasure. Thanks for having me show and coach. I got i gotta i gotta give you one. I hear gonzaga. Baylor helped me out. Who who's taken it tonight. This should be fun. Oh man i don't know to bet against gonzaga after that The nelly they just had but my wife picked baylor. So i'm going her. She wins or pool is baylor wins. I guess so. They'll have to cheer for them. That's that's all i needed to hear. Confidence boost. I needed baylor. I'm just trying to finish in the top five. That's when you know you're not good at this. I'm just hoping to finish in the top. Ten or fifteen of our bracket challenge. Oh man i haven't filled out a bracket and years. I've never been one and year so just a route with lisa. Hopefully her pulled as well and we'll treat everyone the debtor. It'll be fun. It should be a great game tonight. Coach it's always an interesting situation anything we're talking about two thousand twenty two thousand and twenty one and we've kind of been following you guys along your path as far as what spring football would look like and you guys chose to kind of opt out of the actual game portion. Just kind of prepare for the fall. But you're getting some scrimmages in got the scrimmaging against the issue blow coach can you. What was that like to see in the guys out there playing against somebody else. Oh my gosh. I almost forgot what it felt. Like juices were pumping It was really exciting. I'm glad we finally got discriminate against someone else. You know after a couple of years. Yeah couple years right. You get tired of hitting the same guy every single day and you know it takes a lot of patients. It takes a lot of mental strength to be able to come out to practice. Get shut down come back out to practice. Get shutdown practice the same guys over and over never having game Our guys i'm so proud of them. I mean they really hung in there do all the adversity and they kept showing up day after day through school. Shutdowns program shutdowns practice shutdowns and and They had fun. That's the man i mean. You gotta remember this. Sports meant to be fun and had a good time. No some guys were on fire. You know they showed up like they hadn't played in two years and they're ready to let the world know other guys you know they showed up and it looks like they hadn't played football in two years. So that was that was to be expected You know you don't know what you're going to get at the end of the day. I was pretty happy with our our attitude or effort and a great great learning experience forces. Well kinda paints a picture for how we can get better coaches. That's something that you're the main thing you're looking at is really just getting out on the field or or how. I for lack of a better term. How nit picky do you get when you're looking back. At last week scrimmage football players are trained to watch them and be critical of themselves. Look in the mirror pointing fingers. She got what we can do to get better. But yeah i'm a little more. I guess understanding of the fact that we have in played a live game in a couple years. So you know you didn't really know what to expect and again. Some guys played better than i thought they would. Other guys struggled a little bit but nothing egregious nothing. That can't be corrected. And i'm just glad we got out on the field and played at some point. You just have to do it. You know you just have to show up. Hopefully the other team shows up and you go play football. And that's that's what we did. And i think I think you know it's a start. It's a start you know. We'll get another controlled scrimmage in next week and hopefully we get better than we were this week but we're also evaluating no. Everybody plays everyone on the teams getting these scrimmages or get given everyone a chance to to show the coaches what they can do. Some guys just show up when you put the pads on you know you really as a coach get to see who just finds a way to make place and so that was that was fun and exciting for me guys that maybe second or third teamer stepped in and when they got their their chance you know. They showed everybody that they can play this game. I think i think that was a pleasant surprise for a lot of some of the guys. We weren't sure about stepped up. Unc had head coach. Ed mccaffrey joining us on the program. And you mentioned some guys. Yeah they were on fire. They looked they looked raring to go ready to go. But like you said that's to be expected on the other side where some guys came in and it clearly showed. Hey it's been a while that's crazy when you laid out like that coach when you say two years we were just talking about this on the program earlier. All this momentum. I was out there during your press conference. This this area was so excited greeley colorado so excited to see you in this area back in this area coach and a team and then we hit everything we hit the pauses and we hit the cancellations and it just continued to roll on. What is that been like for you. Personally i mean again. I saw the auditorium. It was packed. Full people were holding up signs they were pumped up and then we come to this instant. Stop yeah. I was really really frustrated in the beginning. And then it got kinda series. Your attention turns to just making sure everybody's healthy you know. What are we dealing with here. hopefully everyone will be okay and we'll get through this and then we started up again. I got excited. And that was probably the most frustrating. The second and third shutdown. 'cause you get all geared up you give your pep talk everyone's adrenaline through the roof. You have a couple of practices and then you later and then it happens again and you're like you know at some point it's like pavlov's dog. Okay we're gonna go out and have a practice while are we. you know. i don't know maybe maybe we'll have a practice. Maybe we'll be let they'll allow us to play football. And so even going. Right up to this scrimmage. I think a lot of guys wondering. Is this really going to happen. Like something's gonna somehow shut this down and it didn't and that's that's why Man there were a lot of smiles. After the scrimmage guys you know been waiting a long time to compete you know for you guys on our team are just. They're born to compete. And they haven't been able to for so long and finally they got that show. So whether it was a great scrimmage forum or they feel like they could have done better regardless they went out and compete it and had fun and it's such a such a strange situation like you said just looking over your shoulders wondering when that if that next practice is going to be cancelled. Or or scrimmage i i love it you said. Just getting through that scrimmage. I mean even even if it wasn't the best performance from every individual got to feel some kind of sigh of relief. Yeah no doubt. I mean in any football game a lot of times you talked about the first play like just get the first play out of the way. Let's just hit somebody. Let the butterflies go away and then start playing football. And it was the same in the scrimmage. We just had to go out and play and go out and hit somebody and let the butterflies. You know go away and shake the rust off and find a way to get better. And i think it played out that way. We started out You know fast in some areas but slow another as the day went on. You could tell our guys. We're loosening up more and more relaxing and going back out there and just doing what they do is play the game. What are what he would sit team going to be like coach and again so much. You're just trying to get the feel for what this group's going to look like but when you know your ideal football team on the what. What kind of offense are you really. Trying to put out there is going to be hard nosed offense. That's methodically moving down the field. Or what are you looking for. We know we'll get to see del. Mccaffrey we'll get to see him much later. But i know that was huge news as well What can you tell us a little bit. Maybe a preview of what you expect your offense or defense to look like well you know. I hope we're organized over disciplined You know hope place enough to whistle. I hope you have a little edge to us. You know. I want to be physically dominant. And i wanna be a team that intimidates our opponents through our strength or power and our effort and You know you also need guys that can make place for your. Coaching can sometimes be overrated. I mean watch. All the highlight reels. Most of the time if somebody jumping up over a db or db ball out on the goal line or someone beating a block or at the end of the day they have to go out and make plays To make the coach to make me in the rest of our coaches look. Good so i think to do that. You need to know what you're doing. You need to be prepared and have great attitude. You gotta love this game. You gotta be willing to play. Full speed. snapped a whistle. Whether you have a you know. Bumper a bruise. Whether you're tired you gotta find a way to push through it a lot of times. You know. it's the team that can just continue to give that constant effort play after play after play whether it's the first quarter of the fourth quarter. You're going to get that constant efforts. So i guess i hope when we're playing a team regardless of what the scoreboard says that other team has some respect person. Says oh my goodness those guys come to play. We're talking to unc. head coach. Ed mccaffrey and yeah. That was a big news back in back in february coach. Talking about dylan mccaffrey. I know you did zoom call and a lot of media attention. That's what i was talking about the program and it's an exciting feel around the university of northern colorado and that was such a cool story about how you guys chatted about that and what that what ultimately came down to two dylan's decision to come play for the university of northern colorado. I know a lot of fans are pumped about that move. Yeah i'm extremely pumped about it too. And i had to have my dad cap on. I and i helped explore all of his options. Hey a lot of schools that are interested in you. I think you should talk to those coaches and make sure they answer questions and looks through rosters and look at their offense and try to figure out if that's where he wanted to go and you know you know you know you have an offer from us so as soon as you've gone through that process just let us know one way or the other but i'm your father i i love you not going to hurt my feelings. If you go somewhere else but secretly head really opened nobody. Recruit them away from us But in you know some of the guys who are getting mad at them like hey why aren't you recruit them heart and he's my son. I you know you've got to do what's right for him and wearing that when they were all coming out of high school You know. I didn't force any of them to go anywhere i. I helped them understand the questions. They should ask him what to look for but it was their decision. You know they're men and it's their decision on whether they want to go and it's a dad. You never wanna force your kid do anything. I'll probably hold it against you for the rest of your life. It has to be their decision. It had to be dylan's decision. And i think once he saw You know our team. He believed that we really do have a lot of talent. We're we're going to have the ability to really do some exciting things on offense and he wanted to be a part of it. He met our coaches in the understands. Gonna learn the game at a high level so in terms of his development individually and some of the guys on the team who are extremely talented and also just have great attitudes love football. You felt like the right place for him. So awfully excited about it and Coach and before so. That's not new but excited to have him here at unc coach. We're we're pompton. I'm excited to see how this next scrimmage plays out and we'll kind of just keep progressing until we can. We can see this team on the field for real come fall coach. We really appreciate your time. And we look forward to catching up with the the future. Thank you that's unc. Head football coach. ed mccaffrey. That's going to do it for us. National championship game tonight on thirteen. Ten k of k baylor gonzaga baylor in this one all right. That'll do it for us. Good night northern colorado.

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03/23/2021 - Everyone Wants to be Tom Brady

Straight Outta Vegas with RJ Bell

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03/23/2021 - Everyone Wants to be Tom Brady

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Ever listen to generation the podcast on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts bell with sports. Betting news for tuesday into the sweet sixteen of the ncaa tournament. And there's still three number. One seeds left a ton of upsets. The favorites gonzaga baylor michigan the fourth favourite heatin. Now we know the big ten hasn't done well and one team and we know the pac twelve has done well but how well nine one straight up and nine and one against the spread in the pac twelve is covered the spread by over fourteen points per game. That's amazing everybody wants to be like tom brady. Aaron rodgers and russell wilson trying to emulate him and also the dolphins wonder if they have them with to The jets are trying to get him. It's all about tom. Brady in the nfl news. We'll cover that and more. Here comes a four hour. Vegas truth fox sports radio this is straight out of being voice so big your host rj. Bow ma'am off myself. The pre-game show america has always wanted comes from the vegas strip gears. rj rj. Live on a tuesday. Live in las vegas live on two hundred twenty five fsr stations prices. Great great nation and yes. Everybody wants to be like tom. Brady probably meet to admit it. But we got some news on. Aaron rodgers russell wilson. And how they're looking at brady success and saying Maybe we should try to be more like that. That's probably a good thing. Also about six fifty eastern is going to be my nfl division better the year. And we've been really doing strong with our big bats and i've got a division bat team will win the division. It'll be my biggest of the year even a little before six fifty eastern and we always say six fifty is we want to do better than fifty fifty jones says like that line. I think of it soon enough. Sports bettors listen for the money. Sports fans listen to no more than their bodies and he is. He's not a pro. But he's joe in my opinion in la jones. Knox always get to be here. Are john on a dane. Which we've got the sweet sixteen set in the ncaa tournament. We've also got some news regarding the drama and dilemma. That to shawn watson finds himself in. But what is the vegas lead here on this tuesday. Let's recap the ncaa tournament. We went from our sixty eight down to sixteen. And we're gonna have a chance to look ahead at the upcoming games. But let's start by recapping what's happened so far. Yeah and we've had a bunch of upsets as we've talked about here on straight outta vegas Throughout the course of the tournament in the opening weekend but the sweet sixteen is set and despite all of the upsets the only number one seed to be eliminated is illinois. So we've got three of the four still remaining along with two number twos as we get set for next weekend in the sweet sixteen round. Okay so let's run down the favorites to star from here onward. The are the favorites in the ncaa tournament. Gonzaga is the favor a borderline prohibitive favor plus one fifty so you get a little bit more than even money back. So you got sixteen teams competing and you're getting one hundred fifty gonzaga. They are clearly the big favor and a team that was a big favourite coming into the tournament. So as much as we've seen a lot of upsets we've seen gonzaga Twenty eight zero now straight up on the season but also covering the spread is Over fifteen point favorite against oklahoma yesterday so this is situation where they advanced and they advanced with conviction. And i think one thing right off the go. Joan is for us not to get Fall into a trap with is what are the scenarios what are the factors that led to the upsets. And do they apply to gonzaga. And i think some do and some don't but on one hand all these upsets if anything they may be improved the odds for zacks meaning if the level competition moving forward is stint dow is diminished. Then you're better. Your odds are going to be better. But the other situation to consider is were the factors that led to these upsets are they applicable to gonzaga so from a fan's perspective. Does it feel like oh would this has done is just thin out. The ranks and invest the zags even better off or is it Zags of avoided this problem so far but the same things that led to these other upsets applied to them. Also what's your gut feeling. I think it's a wake up call. And that's why when you said this. If anything improves their odds i would. I would also say the same thing. John calipari had a great quote. A few years back when kentucky had one of those real dominant teams with those one in duns and they were the overwhelming number one seed in the tournament and he said after a game that was kinda close for them. They asked him. What did you tell your players. He said i told him. Just land the plane. He's all it's not going to be a smooth flight all the time but just land the plane get us there safely and if you're gonzaga you didn't need to go through that in your games you just looked around and said oh so that number one seat is gone and those two number. Two seats are gone. Everybody's and it felt like it was a wakeup call without them having to go through some of the struggles like see say a team like illinois went through. That's jonas knocks. Were straight out of vegas. You bring up a good point though. Does it fly in the face of the reality of this being undefeated team because one of my theories has been and we can hearken back to the patriots with the randy moss year. The year they lost to the giants is the burden of. Were still undefeated. This game. that coming into and far fezzet has said and he'll be here tomorrow to talk about it. He believes that the tournament being played in indiana exclusively. The state of the last undefeated champion indiana university in nineteen. Seventy six under bobby knight. Wow you wanna talk about a movie setting right. it's a it's a gonzaga which you could say is an old school basketball program not today. Were blue bloods but rather they play basketball not in the one and done fashion but kind of in the weights quote unquote supposed to be played going in decades and decades later to indiana to stake their claim as the next great undefeated team does seem movie like and in some degree. You got to wonder you know. I don't know if the coach is going to major the hoops and show their ten feet or whatever before the finals. But but the reality is there is a A mystique to indiana basketball. There's certainly a mystique to bobby knights teams in that state especially in that state and imagine it's the final four and two games ago and if they went to they literally will go down in history or they lose. It's like another gonzaga team. That looked good. That really wasn't like the difference between like think about the patriots when they played the giants if they had one if we said who's the best team in nfl history. I think unequivocally there would have been a majority of people would say oh. Yeah randy moss and the patriots radi they lose and they're an afterthought its really a cautionary tale in a way. And do you believe one. The indiana low cow is going to work against gonzaga and number two. Do you believe that the undefeated Going for that. Maj magical undefeated season. Does that put more pressure on gonzaga and maybe that was why they never did feel lax. Because hey we know if we lose one we're done and that zero loss is so important maybe in a way. They didn't need the wakeup call. But maybe it's the reverse. They've had so much stress on them. It's a negative. what do you think well. I think the locale is interesting. I just. I don't know how i don't know how hung up on that being the last team to go wire-to-wire undefeated indiana fans are right. Now i know especially after what happened this year. I just so. I don't know how much impact i think it'll be fascinating television to watch if you get a basketball team. That's out there trying to go perfect and you've got a group of fans who strictly went there with no rooting interest on the other side. They just wanted to see them lose. They don't care who it is. There's no they just want to see them loose. I would love to see that. Play out on television. Because i think it would be fascinating to watch. I also think if you were to ask bill belichick if you had to go back and do it all over again. Wouldn't you rather lost that regular season game to the giants and then swat those. Because it's so. I you say the question is sorry to interrupt but one of the question be if they had lost that game. Do they feel like they would have had a better chance to win the super bowl do yeah absolutely. And that benefited team. Like even the eighty five bears who were steamrolling my loss to miami. They never had a hiccup. After that i mean was a game. I i was. I was in my teens but marino. I can still remember for some reason. It was gained thirteen. And i think it was. It was right around there and it was monday night football and it was a monster that was a monster and that was almost the super bowl matchup again but miami got upset by new england in the afc title game was a major upset and we would had that play out as the rematch in the super bowl. Niessen he ruined it. What i tell you this though is a goes to show you how even though sometimes it feels like. There's so many sports on today that you know because back in the day when there were so few games on there really was every game felt more important but there are. Those games doesn't matter if it's old time it doesn't matter if it's now that like you remember and to me that's one of the great things about sports is sometimes. It does feel disposable. It does feel like you can't really remember who won it for years ago you know. And but there are those signposts of fandom or even being a fan of a sport that you won't forget and they're different for different people but to me that's shared memories one of the great things about sports and we sometimes focus. You know i think too much or it's always a trade off the money and in the fandom and we're not a fan show You play that role force in a in a good way. But i do think sometimes we gotta give it an extra five minutes to wrap our arms around the joy and the passion of it. I i love making money but there is something beyond that sometimes and it kind of reminded me of we might have that moment in the final four with the zags and i one question. I'd ask you a guy who watches and is is more about perceiving ning than the numbers every time. Did you feel like the fans against gonzaga. Was there any sense of were they against them. And it's going to be different each round because the ticket allotments or different but what was your perception. How the fans were with zags. Yeah i didn't think there was any sort of negativity towards it. I think overwhelmingly. Everybody was just happy to have the tournament back. I didn't feel like we were all even you're watching a loyalist chicago illinois. Of course people that had illinois winning winning at all they were bombed-out freaking out about it and burn their brackets but it didn't feel it was almost like yeah. Man that sucks but it's so much better to have a bracket busted in the round of thirty two than not to have one at all like we had last year so i. That's why i'm curious to see how it plays up this next weekend because now the newness has worn off and now we're down to sixteen teams. And now you can really hone in on. Who's left remaining. And i think maybe. That's when the the indiana bias might creep. Which would be a lot of fun. And as it gets closer to the final four and like on the tony you know he almost died and then when he got shot and then it was like he came back and he goes every day is a gift is what he said. Initially and then a couple of weeks later mousy he said every day's a gift but is it always has to be a para socks and it was like it was boy they give. It has kinda a boring now. And i think that's human nature it's like when you have the flow. You know like the old you know the normal flu and it's like you like if i could just feel normal again our that's that's all i would want. They want you to go normal again. It's like two days later. You're like man wins at electric bill. Go down or whatever you're complaining about it it's just human nature and in a weird way. It's it's what keeps us moving forward. The more content we were. I think as a as a civilization the less ambition. We'd have in in a way all the things that seem problematic or like we don't ever appreciate what we guy is why we keep trying to get more. Which in its way is why we have moved forward as a society so much. i'm rj. Both straight out of vegas last thing on the for now and we'll get into the previews here tomorrow and the next day. Pac twelve nine hundred straight up nine and one against the spread covering the spread by over fourteen points a game. That is almost incomprehensible to say if vegas would've taken every game moved up by fourteen points to the pac twelve team to then say that the pac twelve met expectations. I mean think about it. That's in ten games. It's one hundred and forty points. The pac twelve has exceeded expectation. Now that's like a fool game one hundred forty abo- team so they literally two game. I mean if you think about it. It's two games worth. They played ten games and they scored about two additional games worth the point if the other team did score any to get that far ahead. It's it's just not possible. Almost you have given me the odds. What's he is. The pac twelve is going to have an ats margin of one hundred forty points combined. I would bet you my house versus a thousand bucks. And i mean are three hundred to one five hundred to one. Whatever it was it was it was this pac. Twelve performance is extreme in the extreme. Now the big ten doing poorly. That's extreme but not near as much this. I think the pac ten doing poorly the bigger story out there nationally out there with the general media from vegas perspective the pac twelve doing so well is even less likely because it's so extreme eyeball test one thought and we'll keep talking about it. Why do you think that was. What did you see in the pac twelve. That led to this. I see i've been trying to think about that as well. And i and one of the conclusion that conclusion more of the things that i've thought just especially after seeing what organ did iowa and then you saw what you did to kansas and obviously kansas. You know had their issues and all that but could it be something as simple as maybe people didn't really watch as much pac twelve basketball this year as they did the big ten and therefore we sort of underestimated him because we weren't paying as much attention to the pac twelve. Because you know there everybody's talked about a pack twelve bias. A west coast bias. They're focusing on the midwest and the east coast. Say when you say west coast you mean a bias against them. Yeah just maybe. They weren't paying attention to the pac twelve. Maybe there was some residual effects from from the football season. That's the pac twelve. Don't worry don't take them seriously. Here we are and they've got the most teams in the in the remaining sixteen of any power five conference so i just wonder if it's something as simple as that. Well let's take our first break when we come back. We'll do one thing at the front. Which is we've got a history on how number one seeds in the pac twelve of done versus the other conferences. We're going to touch on that quickly to answer this question. Because when it's going to tell you is there's a reason there was pessimism about the pac twelve release historically and we'll get to this whole tom. Brady being emulated by aaron rodgers. Russell wilson would exactly do they see and brady that they're trying to emulate themselves next. He's rj bell. Jonas knox is a pre game show. You've always wanted right here on fox. Sports radio short. Catch live editions of straight outta vegas weekdays at six pm eastern three. Pm pacific on fox sports radio in the iheartradio app support for this podcast comes from paypal. 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Adobe sign orchestrated by cdw to securely automate e-signature workflows across devices from anywhere integrated with existing tools signed can save your organization. Time money and miles. Thank goodness i can finally take the shoes off no back on back on. It orchestration by cdw people who get it find out more at cdw dot com slash adobe sign rj bell. We are straight out of eggs and jonas knocks voice of you. The fan coming up here. And just a couple of moments we will take a look at a couple of quarterbacks trying to emulate one. Tom brady so join us. We don't have this plan. But i'm going to ask you is. I'm transitioning here to think about. Is there one thing that you use in your life that you think that most people don't use but it's like oh my god. Is it good. If you only use it like pick it could be You know like a spate like a little one drink refrigerator in the bedroom whereas i can put one cold water in there and it's like at night instead of having to walk all the way downstairs. Is that because i've got one of those that i just discovered it's called a copper cop i've never. I love cold. Soda like coca cola. Whatever pepsi and. I've never had one of these copper cops and someone bought it for us and if you put an ice cube in it it gets the whole thing cold like in thirty seconds. I've never seen anything like copper cop. Copper cup is awesome. Now what is your kind of joan his thing. So you can ponder that. This is the fastest growing show on fox sports radio. The audience has doubled in the last year. Plus we thank you so much for the support. And we're gonna keep working extra hard. It's a great day to join us and one of the things. We'll talk about right now quickly. Is that whole pack twelve concepts so jones said hey maybe. Pac twelve maybe. They've been ignored because of the football season. Maybe they snuck up on us. Maybe but if you look back in history now how the number one seeds done since two thousand since this century when there's been an acc top seed. How do they do a pack. Twelve top seed. How do they do that kind of stuff. Now the average big six power conference so we do the normal power five plus the big east which is big in basketball. And we said there's been seventy two number one each from those conferences this century before this season and the average number wins was three point three. So you think about. It's wins to get to the sweet sixteen three wins. Gets you the lead eight so there are about a third of the way between the elite. A and the final four. That's the average power six historically number one seed so the best one of those actually was a tie between or actually through almost a three way tie. Acc big ten and sec are all right between right around three point. Eight wins so about a half a win. More almost almost to the final four. So think about that. This entry jones if the acc or the big ten or the sec had a number one seed. They almost got on average to the final four which is impressive. No doubt about it. The worst has been the pac twelve. The pac twelve is only averaged. Two point three wins. They've had nine number one seeds prior to this year. They've had literally only two point three wins so if the average is three point three that means on average the other power six. The other five big conferences win an additional game more than the pac twelve does when it comes to their number one seed. So you know history. Towels is that the pac twelve if dismiss this year at least in this regard i. It's fairly warranted but boy this year is a different story. And what's fascinating lasting on this as if you look at just gonzaga as they've been a number one seed. The zags have been a number one seed three times before this year and in two thousand and thirteen they won one game so that was an underperformance and seventeen. They won five games. They lost in the finals and then in nineteen. They won three games. So if you add it up. Gonzaga has done better than average number one seed from a power conference in these. Three appearances is the number one seed before this year and the last two they want an average of four games five and three which is way above average. So if anything you would say oh this. Zags are non power five not non power six. But they're kind of a one team power conference and when they've gotten a number one see they've over performed and so far. They've won the two games this year and We gotta do the temperature here in vegas on the strip at sixty one degrees and the neon is chugging now there's been discussions about a possible restructuring of Aaron rodgers contract in green bay has not happened yet. And then we've also got russell wilson trying to exercise his power and leverage to get some personnel control which seems very similar to one quarterback who just wanted to seven super bowl yet to me. It just shows you what brady when you have the true greats in any field. Oftentimes the way they exert most influence is by being emulated by people saying. Hey that's the way to win. Let's do that in might be like lebron and his concern for his body and having millions of dollars you spend on trying to upkeep his body if it's weightlifting back in the day all these different things with that was the first guy to do it and what is brady done. It seems like what we know brady did. Even back in new england is he said. Hey i'm willing to say out. Take twenty two million instead of twenty eight million and with that extra six million. We can upgrade to positions and everyone says oh. Yeah that's easy. When you have a billionaire supermodel or a millionaire supermodel wife and maybe maybe though to some degree to say yeah you know that hundred and fifty million russell. Wilson made or aaron. Rodgers isn't enough you know. If only he had a wife that had one hundred million he could really you know come on either winnings important or it's not and i get to the idea that it's kind of unfair. You could say to expect people to do that but in a weird way. It's a well you don't have to do. It is just like you don't have to eat avocado ice cream but the people who do set tend to do better and we see with. Aaron rodgers is a restructuring effort. I guess my question to you. Jonas is looking at the numbers. I don't know how doug i think. I think brady's getting kind of a lot of love for that. I think is unwarranted. This year is for him. To restructure. It was he added another year so remember. Ballot check was pretty much willing to pay brady from all reports about the same as tampa bay but it was going to be for one year. We're new england that second year. Which would be starting this upcoming year is what ballot check balked at so brady was very focused on making it to forty five because the theory was that was what he had set as a goal. The tb twelve and for the rest of his life. He can say played high level quarterback in the nfl to age forty five and that could make him who knows what hundreds of millions of dollars in business. It's gonna be a valuable branding piece for sure. In this restructuring of brady. They moved him gave him an additional third year. My understanding is it was about twenty five million so to go from one year with ballot. Check to initially two years with tampa to now three years with tampa. Not saying he didn't earn it. But what i'm saying is this restructuring that saved them money this year on the cap the bucks it really helped brady effectively put another twenty five million in his pocket. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it but it wasn't some selfless act. If anything it was a net win for brady even beyond the win for the team. Do you see it that way. Yeah i mean it's not like he took the league minimum. you know. i mean he's still making a good amount of money and it also at to your point on the tv twelve stuff. It would behoove him to play as long as possible because he can then after his career is over. Say look you wanna know why. I lasted so long. Look at my twelve products. That are out like this. Just know this. This does benefit him. As much as people can say benefit tampa bay buccaneers. I would say benefits. Tom brady more because it helps him. Currently while he's playing and then afterwards because he can point back to how long he lasted and he can point to an attributed to his tb twelve brand and let's be clear we know begrudge him that we know. But what we're saying is. He's done things in the past brady. That were strictly for the team. That didn't other than winning. There was no benefit to brady other than increasing the chance to win. There was no benefit to brady. This is one in which he's getting. Let's be candid is very unlikely. That in two thousand twenty two. That is going gonna be worth twenty five million dollar quarterback salary row. 'cause i thought it was unlikely. Be worth at this year to be on. So he's He's he's proven wrong. Every detractor fantastic at the front of that list and physics. Had you know hitting the wall for eight years and the reality is he is one of a kind when it comes along javadi and you and you gotta just rationally think. Tb twelve emmys at random that he's the guy that had a pudgy body relative to other nfl players coming in is now the only one that can last this long. I mean there's gotta be something to it in my opinion. So i mean i've got his book i haven't read the whole thing yet. I mean but i get it convention to buy it but to me this time. He benefits if if to me. If there was no benefit to tampa bay this year on the cab from brady signing this contract. I think brady still would've signed it because to get that third year. Guaranteed you know this year. And then that next year is something that he's been fixated on. That's what the main beef with new england's ben so to me this is great and aaron rodgers. Learned the right lesson. But i don't think this year brady deserves as much credit as in prior years. Now let's transition to russell wilson. I think this is a bad precedent. And here's why is. I think that brady's success with tampa wasn't because he got to pick the players because the players there were handful that were willing to come play with him at a discount. Or maybe in gronk case he wouldn't have played at all and in fact you have to think he wouldn't have if brady had retired before last year. I think it's a very small chance. Gronk where the plate anywhere so if russell wilson has the ability to get someone in there. That wouldn't go any other place or would only go to a handful of places. Russell wilson seattle is one of them. Great but getting to decide who the center is getting decide who they draft. That's something brady's never done. And i was listening to Get up to or watching it up today and they were talking about like what should seattle due to please russell wilson and the answer was i think it was Orlowski said He goes what are they should do whatever he wants if they do if he wants something they should do it. Because nothing is more important than keeping russell wilson happy and you know what. I probably agree with that last statement. Meaning that of all the things seattle could do this off season the thing that could hurt the team the most is if they they disgruntle russell wilson russell wilson's mad and doesn't want to play for seattle now probably hurt seattle more than any other. Single thing could hurt him and the flip side is if russell wilson's engaged in happy then that helps them more than any single could help him. But that doesn't mean that there's no limit to what you'll do to please him because there are certain things you could do that would please him. That would the rest of the team and the team concept itself in a way that was even bigger than russell wilson. Leaving would hurt him. And i think the minute comes were. There's no limit it's one thing to say. Take him seriously here on out right. There's a bunch of business books written about. How do you let the team members the employee's feel like they got a voice but not let them feel like they're running the ship because they can't run the ship that's why you have executives and to me. Where's that balance. I don't know. But i know that Making the mad like they did additional watson for no reason not a smart move but by the same token russell wilson would have any market as a gm. Right now is absurd. He wouldn't so. Why should he act like the gm and if you're just placating him and saying oh yes thanks russell. Having a little kid walk up with their plan for like. Hey we're going to build a new house. What would you think johnny. And johnny come to. The house has got like a rocket ship on top of it or whatever they may take say yes johnny. Good job we'll consider these factors russell wilson treated because to me that is that is disrespect. Again i just. I don't understand the idea that you know. They should do whatever he wants. Okay well they did do whatever he wants. They chose him over all these long time. Veterans on defense all these big personalities. They've given him two contracts like it's not like they haven't made moves to try and help the team. They traded away first round picks to pick up. Jamal adams they signed carlos dunlop on this idea that they just have led him out there to figure it out on his own. I just i don't understand it and you know what this is. You make such a good point. Because i think if i was arrested wilson fanling you. I would say well. He's they signed the second contract because they felt like it was best for the team. And i agree with that. And they also made a decision for russell wilson over the the defensive guys were against some of his ways or whatever that was also the team so i i don't think they should necessarily get a ton of credit for that. I think it was their decision though. Russell wasn't should feel good. That was what they decided to me. The problem here is the idea that once it starts. Where does it stop. Because they did trait you know They have a guard they added. They got a new center. It seems like the whole idea on dan. Patrick right here in fsr of getting hit too much. They've taken seriously and instead of saying okay. Russell should be happy now. It's like oh we've seen weakness. They're willing to do that. Well it now you should do this this and this and then once you're done with that i'll have another list for you. And the absurdity of all of it is is seattle. Is the second winningest team. The second winningest team during the russell wilson era in the entire nfl behind the patriots. Who also don't seem to give much say to what players think about personnel. So in general this idea seattle's backwards or behind not very good as a front office or as a coach. That's absurd and to me that the coach ever to win the ncaa title and a super bowl. I mean it's hard to say. P care is not a good coach. 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Good Guy Justice Sueing, Blue Blood Resurgence, and All Eyes on Ayo

Titus & Tate

1:17:27 hr | 2 months ago

Good Guy Justice Sueing, Blue Blood Resurgence, and All Eyes on Ayo

"Today's absurdities and. I'm not mad and i just wanted to. I don't understand. I don't know why people are in the mentioned asking me if i'm upset they. It's this has been happening in my life a lot. I got people texting me tighter. You mad and i just wanna say why would i be met. I'm not no reason to be mad. I'm not mad at all. No what am i mad about. America watched the ohio. State buckeyes play on a big stage and fell in love with this team. This exactly a lot of good offense a lot of players. I liked bill. Raspberries call on the game kevin harlan. It's a good time. Ralph waldo emerson. Texas ran out of time everson. Toby longtime ago t. It's not about the destination it's about. The journey took america on a great journey. That's all that's all that matters Yeah we're gonna talk about state michigan michigan. We get it like michigan fans okay. Congratulate hate the banner banner michigan fans. Is that what you want to hang the banner. You won the february national champion. Congratulations you did it. Hang the banner some of us realize there's more seasoned be played. Some of us don't want to peak too soon. And that's why i'm not mad. I'm definitely not mad. And i'm gonna talk about how mad i am on today's show in by some of us you mean of course the blue bloods aiding and You know waiting in the winds waiting for all the haters to come out and say it's over. Throw this season out. Don't worry about it. they're back. We'll talk all the all the blue bloods saturday. Every single one of them except indiana new. We're also speaking of talking about the blue bloods. We gotta talk about this chris. Video is louisville blueblood. I don't know kentucky definitely is and he was calling out john. Perry and this is a rivalry. Not not the louisville kentucky robbery. Let's make that clear we hate. That sucks yes. The chris mack. John calipari publicly feuding. But not really but they say they're friends every time the front of a microphone purpose not wanna beef back continues to do. Also texas is free falling. I just want to point that our we might talk about that a little bit. Villanovan might be back. There isn't it was a packed weekend. We just got done watching oklahoma state sweep texas tech magma clung had it had a few shots there at the end not not not what we wanted out a but that's okay so yeah a lot to talk about. We're going to get to all of it. But i durham. Thank god all right before. I give all of our listeners. The pound of flesh that they so badly desire listening right now they want might ears. They want to drink my scarlet and gray tears but First of all. I'm not going to give you that. Because i'm not mad and we'll talk about how many i'm here in a second but first i want to say we are. We have our own youtube channel. Now go to youtube dot com folks. We have our own. This is something that you and i when we started a There was a studio. There was a video studio that i helped put together and we looked at each other and we said one day one day when i we're going to be at this table we're gonna be video. Someone's going to be back there cutting it and we did not know. It'd be three long arduous years before we get to that point but here we are but we're here now. So if you traditionally listened to the podcast that's fine. That's cool whatever we're doing it that helps us. We we appreciate that. We're all god's children as we would say you know like the listeners. The viewers whatever it is. We like the. You're under the umbrella. We we appreciate you much. The same but If you're someone who would like to throw a on your how do. How do the kids watch you to their phones. Their phones ipads. I saw jeff inc the other night they Anthony davis was showing the ipad and he was like look at that. You can watch us. Though you can watch the whole we're gonna put up full episodes. We're going to do interviews that maybe you're make it into the podcast. Maybe don't not because it's not as good but like maybe you know we're talking about something. Then we'll get a guest lined up that dozen isn't necessarily relevant to like college basketball at that time but we still want to talk to him so we'll put that on youtube. There'll be a lot of stuff like that. We're going to a live reaction stuff we're going to do live shows. We're going to actually do at the one of the first ones on this council before this but we're we're definitely doing like a big selection sunday blowout or we'll be live on youtube So they'll be a lot of fun stuff as we get into march. Go subscribe to that. As i said all the full episodes what. You're listening to right now you can. You can watch night talk about this you can. You can watch me. Throw my hands around. I've found the more report on video. The bison yes yes you. And i are basically ricky bobby and this is shaking big period. It does this big table. I started spreading out as touching every piece of the So anyway you can watch for example here. Here's a little nuggets for you listeners. Than aren't watching a date night color-coordinated accidentally we're both wearing carolina blue. The blue bloods came back. I went full blood. You win as well as in our heart. And i think at the end of the day people want to have some other reason to make fun of us or like like. Here's your chance to this grave. You won't be a hater now. If you're like these guys are dip shits. I need more ammo on the throne. Interface dot com slash titus and tate dump faces. It's your time all right. Let's talk about college basketball. It's what's going on. Did anything happen this weekend. People were telling me like on twitter saying that stuff happened but it it i. I didn't really see anything going on. Is there something to happen. Three words from our coach the program after you know like you said that the the showcase on sunday on cbs. This was college basketball that we needed. We needed america to tune in because saturday. We're going to get to this but the blue bloods. They let people know. They put him back alert. It's not over yet. Don't give up tony kornheiser. Don't worry about it. Michael wilpon duke kentucky. We will be there. We will come back but sunday was four. You know the real college basketball fan. This season the person that has been watching the game trying to figure out who the best teams are and knows that the big ten is the best conference this year. Right right and then you watch this game on sunday. You gotta raftery on the call. You got kevin harland. The the scene is said. We're in the shot. We got our coach of the program outside the actions about the heat up inside. You can just feel yeah. It's all right there for the taking and sometimes when that's the case you worry that you're not going to get a great game but instead mark titus we got a beautiful game we got. We got two teams shooting fifty three percent from the field two teams going back and forth. We got some nice rivalry moments. Ej ladele early in this game. I think the first basket that scores his little jumper and he's running back on defense and he's laughing he's laughing. One hundred hundred dickinson can't guard him exactly for the entire game. It was great. It was a great rivalry game. I know that it did not go the way that you wanted it to for your buckeyes but i will say this as the objective fan as the college basketball fan. That does not you know in a big ten basketball. It's just be quite upfront. This was a good game. This was a good showcase. This was good for college basketball. I'm glad you said that tape because it means a lot to me. That wars aren't that's only ultimately came to michigan fans. We're focused on the score. And i was focused on the picture. Which is the rivalry is back. Yes ohio state has been kicking. Mrs michigan's asks for so long that it's become kind of boring to be honest play michigan so big big picture. Mind that's good. We have that back we we. We don't want peaked too soon. So can like. I said congratulations michigan. You wanna game that. Ultimately it's a regular season game the calendars about to turn the march. My focus is now on march This is we don't need to see shot. johnny brown. Let me just say this. This is one of my favorite players in the country but the first three that he hit in this game i've never seen something so clinically wet as show. I'm gonna walk you sean. D brown experience So the guy hits the first one. And i say to myself. This is actually good because like that. Wink from dwayne washington from michigan. By the way nice little late this whole thing. Shawny brown hits as i wanted. I say good. Because he's gonna. He's big. He's hot and he's got a catch. It was too good sack one. I was like no. This is actually good. Because he's not gonna stop shooting the rest of the the third rows like this might not be good. Yeah and michigan did not miss they. They were making shots as we know in the first half state was It was a great game. I miss the feeling of living and dying by every shot. And it's been a very long time since i've been i've had that feeling i was. I was on pins and needles before the game. I could feel my heart racing like a half. I'm watching the bull riding on cbs. There were right away lee game. I couldn't believe that i'm watching. These writers like pumping out on my chest and then the game comes up and every time. We scored i was like we're going to. We're gonna win by thirty like they can't stop us and then shawny brown with three and i'm like we are so screwed we it was going back and forth and then it automatically can i can i. Can we do guys. Bag is because i wanted. My good guy ended this. Yes please a good guy. The weakest justice doing because the game turned on justice suing. What was it like to we. We wait what that was so bad. Yeah they did the heard this from every angle so just if you missed the justice there's a behind the back pass bedtime it go. It bounces out. Mid chord. isaiah livers picks. It had to be delivered to be one guy on on michigan's team to the an one and lay it in for basically the at this point. Ohio state was down three. The an one puts michigan up six scrambling from there to like. Make up the big hole. It felt like you know we. We gave up a home run. Yes so in the bottom half the inning. We were just trying to swing for the fences instead of just getting the base. It's we've been doing that. Metaphor track So justice suing. But but here's here's here's the big brain galaxy thing. The the galaxy brain idea is that this is suing. Knew what we all know. Which is that. you can't peak too soon tate. It's still february. My calendar says february twenty-second as of this recording. We're still like a month away from march madness. It's still it's still a ways. Away and ohio state. As we know was the hottest team in the country everyone was saying it gonzaga. Baylor were they as hot. I don't know depending on who you're talking to. I'll state Plays in the best conference in the country. Gonzaga as good as they've been recently have never won a big ten title baylor's never big title. Ohio state is. What was the team. Michigan was on covert pause house by the way still has not lost a game at full strength moves. Mussa didn't play in this game a bit. You won't hear people talk about that but anyway Just assume we knew what we all knew which is that you don't want to soon. He knew that in the last twenty five years. I think there've been four national champions. That have gone undefeated in the month of february Four zero the odds. Say you're better off losing in february. It sets it up for the national title. Run better justice doing this. The we had advanced long enough because at this point in the game america was already seen these teams are one seats in fact that became clear when ap poll came out today. would move. How stayed still rank. Fourth michigan still ranked there. Because everyone watching knew that we were every bit as good as michigan. Some would argue. We were better than michigan. The boston bouncer way. I'm not arguing. That calm down michigan fans But just assuming new. The enough time had passed. We'd proven that we every bit as good as michigan. Now is the time to lose the game on purpose. And that's what he did. And i applaud them for it because i think ohio state is now going to go to the drawing board and say we have some adversity. We have some things to clean up michigan. Meanwhile is pretending like they won. The national title michigan is in practice today practicing nothing. They're not practicing at all. They're just high fiving their to saying good job guys. We did it. we won. Hang the banner the buckeyes. No they're working to get better. And that's that's the that's what matters to me. Most coach oldman said it best. He said it was a hard fought game. I thought both teams competed. Both teams are really good offensively and they really made schatz. That was pretty much summed. Up the game you know. They both made shushing fans are so mean to eat there. So mean what have i ever what what did i. What did i deserve this. You went to ohio state. That's what they said. This was the first top five match between these two teams so that i couldn't believe that in the in the ninety when the by was there jimmy jackson's their kris jenner. How state like ohio state had awesome. They met elite eight and ninety two. You even think. Like in the sixties or the seventies randomly. They would have been a top five games for the first time ever. It wasn't awesome game. Michigan is is really really And that's frustrating. Everything dude it in all honesty. I've been a maybe doing a little bit of shake. Maybe not i don't know who can you tell me more but a in all honesty i did love the feel like this is the first housed game. I've watched it a long time. Where i was living dying as i said earlier. Just living and dying by every shot. It felt like march again. It felt like i i was alive. I felt alive. I felt alive watching my alma mater. Play basketball and that felt very very good until the until just assuming through behind the back. I was gonna say suing pass right there kind of beckon back the twenty sixteen in the finals in game. Seven when steph curry made seven carries at north carolina. Basketball kid right. I'm not gonna say anything bad about him. I love him to death but he made a california basketball decision in game seven which is behind the back pass and we all remember klay thompson face when he just sees it and he's like are you now now. Now is the time that you throw it behind the back pass. And ej ladele was so fixated on actually running real offense that he didn't even see the paso he didn't even give the klay thompson. Are you kidding me moment. It was a california decision. It was a california west coast basket basketball. And it's okay for now it's february like you said it's okay we can learn from this ensuing has been great. And he's been awesome and his worst. He didn't play well. I i would even say that the behind the back pass wasn't that bad and like like the result was obviously bad but the the idea the the behind the back part wasn't even the problem it was just throwing. It was the miscommunication. I it was made worse. By the fact that it looks bad that he's thrown by the back but If you ladele. If they're on the same page he threw he was trying to throw. You know what. I mean like a lot of the reason you don't want to you get mad at guys thrown behind the back pass because they end up throwing the ball. Not on target like steph. Yeah yeah like steph. Do this was on target. It's just the target left. You can target move way. That he's going to throw this behind the bag right. Yeah so like it. Ej ladele popped right there boom. That's that's right catch and shoot. But that's why are we wouldn't do this to me. i don't understand. Michigan is very good michigan I i do think we need a pump. The breaks like michigan is ever like people are trying to put michigan into tier with gonzaga. Baylor come on. That's ridiculous got smoked at the barn. They the i mean right like you. Have you have to have some sort of separation between can be gonzaga baylor. I'm not saying that we say before the first off. I don't think michigan did anything to i know. Michigan fans may disagree with this. But they didn't do anything this game. That says michigan is head and shoulders above ohio state. Right right to the conversation the whole game. If you're on twitter just like painted you know everyone. I had a lot of people texting me. And everyone's saying like these. Two teams are every bit as good as each other. Even match awesome and then michigan wins and then suddenly. You're like oh. Michigan is much better than you know. Yes and i don't think that's the case. Think there is tier one. There is baylor there is gonzaga. And i think in zeta as we know has been probably anointed even an exactly whatever and then there's the biggest loser of you know these these four teams are all battling to be the one team that's going to try to take down either a baylor gonzaga whether it be illinois whether it be iowa whether it be michigan whether it be ohio state and those four teams their fan bases are going insane now like separately of themselves and the illinois fans in the michigan fans right now. They are performing at peak levels of insanity day. Basically if you're in illinois fan right now and you think that luca garza's good at basketball then get european out of my face. I don't wanna see it like two fronts. Because they illinois fans are curly fighting against michigan's team and it gets lagarde's individually and they are they are just whatever whatever it takes who put the charge in. But they're ready to go And then from michigan side michigan. You know they've had the whole you know are they dodging illinois. the illinois michigan is dodging. If i was a fan. I'd say the same thing. Why not but this whole back and forth has been quite hilarious because they seem like they want to each other right. They're doing. This is all big ten. Ah but there's a larger prize at hand. I think you're iowa right or or of your ohio state like don't get caught up in this. Don't get don't they'll annoy fans pull back. You know what i mean. You're you're trying to make the real run for the final four. Don't get caught up in this. The michigan fans. I think you'd go for the ride right. I think. I think you own the big ten this year. Yep if it doesn't work out march who cares. You're ahead of schedule anyway next year. You're coming back you know hundred dickinson's gonna get going hundred diggers and by the way has made himself. Okay well he exactly. He's made himself a great college basketball personality and he quote tweeted after the game. Who said the smart money going to this one is addicted. I take that back because he wants me to hate them and give them the satisfaction hundred. Hit you in fact. I don't feel anything towards you. Even who which one is which one is. He is giving you one on michigan. Very mo- wagner vibes. He wants to be a fo. He likes to be the villain about this. Speaking of wagner of franz volume did not play well not have a great game. He's probably michigan's most talented player Michigan has reached that. That's one of the frustrating is they've reached the pit they've reached that point where it's we have to differentiate most talented most valuable Best an all in that sucks. I hate that. They're they've reached that point but he didn't play particularly well. Everyone was making in this game except franz wagner and just aren't just in our to make the best shooters in the country did not have a great game shooting as everyone else around him was was making everything. I don't know that was this kind of interesting. Both guys were struggling before the game started. I had thought eh tweeted my players to watch on one side. Franz wagner and the only other side justice suing. That's really in. Thank god it did not go through before the game and And then i watched they gave. I was like man boy was off on this one. It was a great game though. If you watch this game This was a nice like game of the year. I think so. I think so i think the game before was the villanova at texas game. But i feel like we're so far from that iteration of the season and the teams that it can't be that game anymore. Michigan fans are great. I will say that in all honesty like they love their school. They finally did. They are basketball school. They know their basketball school michigan. We have a lot of michigan fans listening to the show. And i found this out because our producer. Louise told me that. We had a lot of michigan fans. Calling in to the hotline. Yeah so yeah but but it's all fun. I hate michigan michigan basketball. But they're making me. Wanna hey michigan basketball and i welcome net because i i i genuinely my experiences in ohio state when when i got the how state and i i walked on the basketball team And then we graduate. Like by the time i graduated. We didn't really have rivals. We just had teamed the arrival every year. When i was at ohio state was just whoever was good like. Wisconsin was kind of a rival. Michigan state was kind of but they were rivals. They were just. That was good that we wanted to beat purdue was up there so we never. I never really felt a rivalry. Even as i've gotten older now. I'm watching the the young bucks plan. I never feel anything towards the team. So i would love our genuinely love for that to be a rivalry and i understand that michigan fans are always going to michigan state and basketball more than ohio state. But maybe they don't always have to maybe can be equal. Maybe we can get. Maybe there can be a little animosity in. And so far. What we've seen from john howard and and chris holman. Feels like we're headed down that road. Yeah and i don't mind that one. That part is good. The row that we're on right now. It feels like we're on the yellow brick road and we're walking and we're skipping along and all i can see in the future mark titus has me looking at you and saying thank god. This rivalry is better than louisville. Literally is by the way i mean. They're in the same conference right. They have a history the only play. What once a year sounds better to me. Sounds better to me. Not the same team wins. Every yeah yeah Do do we have some of those voicemails by the way they wanna play. That's right yeah. I think we should because we need the michigan fans to to let us know andy cash semi sex message and said. There's only one to one team in the country and the university of michigan wolverines titus. You just type provider. Michigan is going to get their asses handed to them. I saw coming into the game. Traders knows what he is. Your first mistake dug up. Hi my name is does. This and i was watching the ohio state game with my dad and he really said ohio state law split. What can i do to cheer him up as soon as just pursuing through that behind the back pass i immediately reps three shots and i remembered leaving this voice. I thought i was going to break my when i saw. Sui do that full kip. Nobody's and look nobody none of his teammates. I've seen to wayne wash- washington's done that shit knocking to here on any played a hell of the game today but suing right there. I'm sure i'm not the only arrogant michigan san phoning author taki before today's though your offense just consists of contested mid ranger and blamed. Push off your best players four inches shorter than hundred dickinson's don't pride comes before the fall. Go blue big ten chance. Go home buckeyes you loser fan. I just watched. The wolverines beat ohio state. And i should be happy about it. But honestly i'm not I i just in the interest of fairness titus might wanna hear from a michigan fan First of all moussa in play for a great point that made a big difference To where this game shouldn't even council secondly it was we. We were making a lot of shots that we all make. A lot of. This stuff is don't ups garbage and lucky michigan michigan. I'm a big fan again. And i've never seen shoot like that before so injustice i mean we all we all watched it. Like behind floppy. I think you know as i'm looking forward and thinking about maybe michigan playing in the tournament Better team wanting michigan man saying that. Wow wow i don't know i mean we want day i'm happy about it. Definitely go blue all that jacob. Wow interesting heartfelt interesting perspective there in the words of just scored more points today. That's honest is that's get mission that lasts michigan man on the show. I like his perspective. He's got some good. Thanks david you take your win michigan. Yeah congratulations you. You guys can have the intercontinental belt. You're the third best team in college basketball right now but the calm down. You're not you're not on gonzaga baylor's level. You're just respectful their undefeated. Both those teams are killing. Everybody just calm down. That's all i'd say but congratulate you win. I deserve this. Loved all those michigan fans by the way that that was great. Please keep calling in We need more of that that That were my heart all right. Let's move on I have nothing else to say it. It's i have nothing else to say. It's just like i have this. I have one more things part of why it hurts so much. And this is why michigan fans are so elated. This is the first year maybe ever. We have to go back to the record books. I don't know. I don't know if we have the technology to look something like this up first year ever. Maybe that ohio state has not beat michigan in something. Certainly to my knowledge We beat them in football or at least one game of men's basketball every single year and we didn't play the football game. This is the only time we're playing basketball. And i think they know that. And i think that's why they're twisting the knife and i think that's why you know juwan howard is like i know like act like you've been there before dude like he's like smiling after the disgust just disgusts me. That you would never see our guys smile afternoon. Business know that. That's that's what hurts. The most is the football game gets canceled. This is the only time we play basketball. And it's the only time. I don't even know that there's a chance the would be a real shame if we met in march repeat of ninety two seven flipped where yeah where we beat them in day. This time One last thing. I will say all the michigan fans the fact that these michigan fans listen to our show. Where i cut an intro. Which is their most infamous moment of basically the worst case scenario technical file. You know chris webber. We all know that that plays every time we started show so michigan fans. I just to say one. Thank you for putting up into it. Has to come back right like the fact that juwan howard coach a-team national championship after surviving ninety two and ninety three and carolina. That feels very new blood to me. That feels very much like a moment for michigan basketball. So thank you for putting up with that. And also i have faith. I believe that it will come around. You like here in jail adele's awesome talk about. Ej ladele yeah he he eight hundred dickinson's lunch every time he was he was laughing at him and spring in his face and no one talked about it because hunter dixon dunk the ball twice ghetto. Get over yourself. Got all right. We'll move on Who's your good guy. Mike good guy. The week is A guy that you know near and dear to your heart. And i wash his brother on saturday and it warmed my heart because he got number. Three hundred and archie. I wish you could be like sean. I wish you'd be like big brother. Because it indiana to to put it on the train off the tracks here. We're off the rails and all signs are pointing i. I saw him tweet after the big loss to michigan state which is not a good loss in normal. It's normal circumstances. You would say all right. You lose michigan state whatever. Don't don't worry about it archie. But this was the year that you know. This team has some talent they were supposed to have these freshmen. That come in to give them a little bit of juice. Trace jackson davis supposed to be a centerpiece for this team. He's been good. He hasn't been as all american. Exactly say he's been he's been good but yeah but they they lose this game. And then after the fact archie i tweet about trade jackson. Davis like you know something just innocuous being like you know how much he love this kid. He's a great guy was his birthday. I think i think i was like. I can't remember what paul shelley happy birthday. Regardless that's that's my face. And then i started growing and crunch the numbers and i started looking at the big ten record. Rt's never finished above five hundred in the big ten First year ios nine and nine. That's the best he's been able to do. It doesn't look. It's going to happen this year unless we have you know some sort of miraculous run and you know. This is indiana basketball. This is not a this is not clemson basketball. This is not. You know a place where we're okay with being you know middle of the road the conference and having a few goodwin's winning at iowa like that i will win feels like forever ago and i know that you know the the the miller believers people think are really got this thing going to believe in the facilities that if in the i'm just saying let's say the exists the millers bill miller. I like what he's doing there. It just feels like all signs are pointing to. We liked your time here archie. We wanted this to words. But it's not you it's us and the reason why it's us is because we're we're indiana weird. We're too good wasn't just that they lost michigan. State it was at all the blue bloods. Were winning on saturday over the. That's become a narrative coming out of this. Weekend is the blueberries. Cla michigan state kentucky unc. Exactly you just you just love michigan state in there by michigan state. Winning match up with indiana. Yes they they claim to be. The blueblood in indiana's not the blue blood in the way that duke beating virginia means that they are the bright light emerge so that i would describe archie miller status at indiana like this. I think he's close. I've said this i. I was bullish on indiana. I've i've made this point a million times when we saw him in nashville. I think they're close. I think they have pieces. I think they're close archie miller and building what he wants it. Indiana is close. Think a lot closer than indiana fans. Most think he is but the problem is closer. Isn't good enough and it shouldn't be good enough at indiana and we're in your four and there's just no excuses at this point and it doesn't matter how you got here. It doesn't matter That romeo langford has never fully healthy or That that some of the some of the guys that you did it doesn't it doesn't matter some of the the locker room issues. That may or may not have happened and I don't know what whatever whatever it is. That led you to this point. It's not good enough. And you have to understand that. In in. And i feel like archie of all people would understand that because when he took over it indiana he was a guy who quote unquote gets it like. He was a guy who understood what he was stepping into. This this is not dayton. No disrespect to dayton. We love dayton. Dayton is not indiana dayton. If indiana has the season the dayton had last year indiana good. That's what we should be doing. Yes fans relax. This is the craziest thing. I've ever still leaning. Yeah yeah exactly Indiana fans are going into the tournament last year dayton. And they're saying we're. I don't think we're good enough to be kansas. And that's unacceptable dangerous. We don't care. We have the best player in the country. This is blue. So that's how i described. I don't think it's a disaster. I don't think he is certainly bad coach. I don't think you know. I'm not saying he should be fired immediately or not any of that stuff. I'm saying archie miller is very close to turning a corner but close isn't good enough and he's been close for a few years now the whole program as a whole has been close for twenty thousand gonna say so. It's one thing to be close i. It's another thing to be worse than the other. The the the prior administration that you had running things for indiana basketball to quote unquote get you back. Did better on the same timeline. Right like they hit. They hit they hit higher marks. Yeah you said that I think a couple of weeks ago when we were talking about this. You've done all that. And then the produce side of things matt painter who is someone. Indiana fans would not consider to be their coach. He's not an option he's not quote unquote good enough for us. He owns you. Yeah so you're you're at this point. I think painter originally theory. Yes it five years ago we put on a piece of paper. They're like kelvin. Sampson gets fires. And you're like fans pain. Yeah there were top guys consider. He owns any old. You and that is just where it is. So there's though it's not to say there's anything wrong with archie or you know. Things obviously haven't worked out as he had held or is it a indiana fans had hoped. But you're at this point you're at this pivotal moment. I could see archie going to another school like an nc state or somewhere like that and having a great situation. Because it's not indiana and you don't have to deal with that whole you have to create a culture and a facade at the same time and that is so hard to do or cheesy already. Have something that you have to bill. Build already already built in right. You already have to build you the hysteria of bob night. You had to create that facade again and you also have to create a real culture that exists in modern times. So it's like to be able to do both those things a it almost takes someone that is that can't be thrown like bur. What are we talking about. Brad stevens as someone. Then that that indiana fans who's your people will say. I believe in him. Yeah i am not going to get off the ship. I i want to rock and see what happens. Bringing up the facade part. That is one thing. I don't think archie miller will ever be great and that's one thing. I think he knows that he will never be. Is the the the calipari thing you need to have As a college basketball coach in this monitoring in at a place like indiana. Because as much as roy is cut from a different cloth and john calipari kaido but at the same time. Like roy knows the the way of being the guy at north carolina. And you're not just the basketball coach when you're the head coach. North carolina when the head coach in indiana. When you're the head coach at kentucky. Kansas your matt diplomat and a head coach and like all these other things and archie miller. I think is not necessarily knocking out of the park with all those other things and as a coach is close. Had it all up. You're like that enough. I don't think it is That's finds himself. But you brought up. Brad stevens no. I got an email today from one of those spam. You know like. I'm sure you get a list of like odds makers and they send out their their garbage ads. You might be interested in this. I am never interested in this today. I was found interesting. Yes got what did he say. These are the odds of nba coaches. According to this. I don't. I'm not going to name him because i don't know who the hell bookmaker is. Whatever but i'm taking it as fact They made a list of the most likely. Nba coaches to get fired next. Next coach fired brad. Stevens was number fourteen on the list. That means he's in the upper half tate. There were sixteen guys below. He was number fourteen. He's moving his way. Up is what i want to say. Stars are aligning. Bring them home Speaking of brad guys my bag is a week is illinois coach. Brad underwood you wanna talk about illinois. Fans losing their minds Here's why here's why coach underwood is my bagai. Luik with three forty five to play the under four timeout happens at the barn. Illinois is absolutely destroying minnesota. R.i.p the bar madge. Yeah mark turgeon kinda killed it in the bread underwood danced on its grave Illinois is up ninety one to six. I will not acknowledge marked herden because he did last year so brad underwood underwood really did all right so illinois is up thirty one with three forty five to play in. Iot assume it was still in the game. And you're asking yourself why. And i'll tell you why i'd say it's an under four time out. This is a perfect opportunity for you know deadball we come to the huddle take iowa output in his his Owner would sons walk on. Throw him in boom bought about a bone Not the case leaves iowan. Because you need a one rebound for triple double i o gets. The gets the rebound. It's a second triple double in four games and and on top of that tyler underwood also gets in the game. It's a four trillion. So brad has a cake. Eats it to Unbelievable coaching job there. At the end of the week that's beautiful and It's also a beautiful move because when you think about bad guys you know john. Calipari is one of the ones that we point to rick pitino and you say like that is what we're looking for. There's a lot of you. We talked about the facade of the culture. Their way that you do these bag moves is like you let a player shine right. So like triple double. I owe you shine. But also the bag implication there is now my guy. Just got a historical. Triple double which i will. Now use them recruiting you know to recruit other future iot moves to come illinois. You get a guy. Like i assume you give him his state you give him his moment. And then there's a ripple effect there a bag ripple effect that goes around the rest of the country and everyone looks around and says. Hey what's going on here with. I assume is he someone we should be talking about. Because now he's doing things we've never seen it illinois before these triple doubles two and four games. I mean we have we ever even seen this in the history of the program so then all those tasks are coming out these are the bag ripple effects is we keep going on and on and now the conversation turns to illinois crazy fans that are saying how is o not going to be national player of the year you get. People like taylor rooks national. Nba landscape of media. She comes out as an illinois fan says she was dealing with. She comes out and says how. I not gonna be national player of the year. So these are all bad guy moves and it's all because he leaves him into the triple double right and then it leads to the rest and that is why. It's so beautifully done. That's what we mean when we say it's a brand play right this. This is a full-scale brand. Also i saw bread underwood's postgame comments he is. He is doing something that all of allina nation is doing. Which is they're not just saying. I would assume it should be the national player of the year. They're saying that they're taking an attitude of being disgusted. Simon close to like this is it i am. I am personally disgusted. That anyone would even dare suggest that. Luke garza could even sniff. I would assume jock like that is the entire ethos of the conversation for sure one hundred percent and it is deranged. But it's beautiful because if you are watching this illinois team there is a certain air about them and there's a certain level of confidence that you watch them play and you say i don't really see many teams that could manage beat them but obviously we zagging a little bit different. Ohio state smack them on their home court. There's also that you brought that up by the way disregard what we're not afraid of you. house smoke you. We just beat house debate you on your home court house on their home court. I think we're going to be okay. No fans really doesn't matter. Shut us no i to triple doubles in the last four games you idiots. It's a four to sixty three in the barn. Though i mean that is That is insane. Yeah it was. It was a bloodbath. So yeah there you go. Brett butler was my bag. What's your pick my bad guy. The week It's a collection of teams It is a group that we called the blue bloods caps You see it right there. Okay now this is interesting. 'cause we have the graphic up you say these are. You're you're taking all the blue bloods has listed duke. North carolina michigan state. A blueblood kentucky arizona arizona blueblood but we'll give it to them and ucla. Okay so basically. There's a real. There's real blue bloods in here right. There's duke real blueblood. Kansas wants to kansas kansas. Real blueblood okay therefore real blue bloods right. North carolina. Do kansas kentucky. Those are the real blue bloods. Those are capital letters blue. Bloods re mistake. It are we fall into the classic sports. Talk trap of becoming the thing that we would have originally joking. We still going to tell you. I'm gonna tell you. This is the reason why the week. So those four teams collectively they are they are. They are dean smith putting up the former is college basketball. You put those teams assemble and they make sure that college basketball's interesting intriguing like everything you need for it. To be and duke was off the rails. Kentucky was off the rails. North carolina was sort of being dismissed. And they weren't going to great kansas with probably the best of all of them. Even though i've argued the carolina could be whatever Regardless saturday they all come together it was like a it was just beautiful moment in time where everywhere you looked. Nobody was safe and the blue bloods were black. We're back and they were just basically blowing people out. North carolina beats louisville by forty. Five points mark davis and i'm wearing what happened by the north carolina jersey because you know what ruins finally decided. I'm tired of letting these guards throw entry passes to my littlest big feed the bigs gotta eat so north carolina's eat and I don't know louisville. They're coming off a paul's we gotta talk about. Louisville we'll get anyways basically north carolina. Roy williamson said that. He hoped his freshman out before he died he. He's like what he said like he was like. I hope that they finally put together before in my lifetime was the quote and they finally in this game put it together and it was like a blessing. I mean it. You didn't watch this game. It was literally look kilos. Face right they look at our davis in the background. It was literally best case. What happened here. Is i pass the baton of belief in tate. Like i love my team so much. Nothing could possibly go wrong as i was having. I was fumbling that you're scoop it up. I was grabbing all take and it made no sense like if you watch these games like even tennessee. Kentucky blows out tennessee in knoxville in knoxville. It was a weird day but it was a day that was needed. Because as i said at the top of show the the national media the pundits they all wanted to attack college basketball this year. They all wanted to always wanted to. There's a war on college best always but this was the they take on the new blood they say who cares about the new bloods. Don't worry about them in the blue bloods showed up when you needed them to There was also some people that clamoured that. Nc state should be included in the blue blood. Thing i won't do that because i'm not that funny. I can't do that with a straight face. But regardless saturday bag is the blue bloods came together. It was good for college basketball. It was good for. Our show is good for the casualties. The casuals needed something was we. We rip obviously. We spent a lot of time ripping on duke and kentucky most of all. Because obviously i've made the point a million times over that. What the reason. We're doing that more than anything else. As content content is king. This what we love more than anything. And the blueblood resurgent is content that will be con- duke and kentucky kentucky. You say we'll we'll talk about kentucky after the break. Put a duke and kentucky. Being good is in a normal year like it's good for content because you talk about those big brands whatever whatever you do kentucky being as bad as they were now if they start stringing together that is amazing if kentucky can find a way if kentucky could find a way yeah i mean if do could find a way to eight. It's amazing it'll be amazing like that is hilarious. That is objectively hilarious. The duke had a guy opt out. And then they gone undefeated. The kentucky kentucky fans are now tweeting out like if the tournament into earth. The tournament started eight. Here's our draw and everyone's like. Oh my god we have a chance. I kentucky fan tweet out. The strength of schedule of kentucky which two months ago was basically saying. I have ruined this season by having the schedule. Now it's going to be something that they use to make you know. So i guess my point is like i cheer against these teams alive Not because i hate them because it's good content when they lose now it is flipped the opposite. It's the opposite. i'm sharon for them. I want kentucky duke to win every game and make determine until the tournament then and then. I wanna lose a game because it's funny again. You see how it works. It's a song dance here. Yeah the blue bloods might be back. That's that's exciting. I felt really good on saturday. And it's not even about just north carolina. It was one of those times where you know you see what you're for duke. I i had. I actually texted my family. They're really virginia. That's a i. I you know i was close to my family. I think i think i'm going to have to pull for duke today. Because like why would i not. Virginia they get on my nerves. My entire family turned on the like. Virginia's been nothing but nice to you. We love tony bennett. How dare you say such as like i said something sacrilegious and It was it was both concerning. Because i felt very far removed from my family who lives in north carolina but also was a nice re assertion of my hate for duke. Like what am i doing like snap myself back in reality but it is. It is cool to see coach k. Like have this moment. Where a five star one and done kid like he could. Just you know act like he was the proud coach k. Used us as he could do a tom. Izzo manufacturer diversity and then make the tournament and saying i told you so. He literally say that and that did not seem possible. And that's why it's so fun. I'm rooting for it. It'd be amazing. All right we're gonna take a break. Come back and talk about chris mac and quick break to get away from our sponsor. Good life. good. Life makes high quality essentials for modern living in believes the quality fit of their t. 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To think so like the first time that's happened a long time where the knoxville listening to all my case are trivia. So this is. This is where we've arrived with kentucky basketball. They they still have to win the sec tournament. Only happen they could. They could win out. Every single game lose at the buzzer in overtime or straight. The schedule argument that they're don't think so the. Sec title game go to eight. Overtimes they lose at the buzzer and they've won every game between now and then and they're still not an instant tournament. I don't think. I think. I think if that happens there. No doubt the schedule. All right well for for argument's sake let's say they have to it as eternal yes So all eyes have turned sec tournament. And here's here's why. This is interesting. Because matt jones who's our kentucky guru should be everybody's kentucky grew. Obviously he he made he put out the the tournament. I saw that he tweeted out. This picture of what the sec tournament bracket would look like if the sec tournament started. Today based on. Today's in the first round kentucky would be pulling georgia state. A team that that they've played one time they lost on a on a last second baseline out of balanced blade. Your delays it up the buzzers at georgia. They've always struggled at georgia. For whatever reason always you know whatever they lost. But that's a w w they're going to win that's a hundred percents Then in round two lsu would have the by so kentucky we can get past them they they then play lsu. That's a tough match. Oh they absolutely smoked. Last time they played them. I think might have been the only time. They played them in the one The one because you place no defense and kentucky does the there also very similar teams kentucky's just like more athletic but lsu's more talented like more skilled more skilled. Yeah but that's a favorable matchup for kentucky. They smoked they will probably win ready and then after that they would either play arkansas who The the they lost onto those four seconds left when they played them this year or they would play missouri who they lost by five at mizzou earlier this year. Both teams that they were closed. They were in the hunt. And i was gonna say. I mean talk about a great draw to play teams that you loss to on basically technicalities and those are. I mean so busy. You're fifty fifty draw and you're going to get the benefit of the doubt and then that would get them into the sec. Title game where anything can happen whether they're probably playing. I mean alabama. Florida or tennessee pulling upset. Then maybe one of those. Yeah alabama saito. Send that message. The wheels are turning for kentucky fits because they're seeing that draw and they're like there's a chance so i just wanted to point that out there jones put it out to the world heath he said i will turn your your punchers chance you might as well as around ten just come. What's going to happen but let's talk about. We really talk about cows guys. Which is this video chris. Mack of those. Who don't know who who was the guy eric. Would eric would. Yeah louisville football player. Ford's out this video of he didn't put it out it leaked it. Was someone got their hands. It was december twenty. Six right after louisville had had beaten kentucky. F- chris max i win. I believe over. John pay rate Yes i win. Eric would is. I think it was the first time louisville's ever been kentucky. At the fact that toys acted that way they go nuts and he's he's yelling at the camera and kenny payne who was junk. Helpers longtime assistant is now an assistant for the knicks without him. John cale periods. Nothing like apparently love this video but that was the story is that this video was made four campaign. Was the eric kenny pain. He made this four campaign. He sent it to kenny. Pain was all supposed to be just a joke among friends. But i think if it was just that that was fine if it was just eric would yelling and talking smack and chris packages kind of their christmas was not just kind of their. Take chris matthews yelling. He was basically yelling. Yeah in one in the background point. The camera had various sorority girl vibes to it like rush week little stone cold with the what he would like. Eric what it was like flavor flav. What own one. What would that be paid to kinda wrestling promo as we says this summer when when the game was when they were trying to force mature one. Another video in the office this rivalry on via twitter. Video is so much better than the robbery on the court. Yes yes yes so that happened. The the the the video was. I think drew franklin kesar was the guy who tweeted out at i i. I'm curious about the timing here because it happened. As kentucky beat tennessee louisville lose by forty five to north carolina. This video has existed. Since when did you say december december twenty six. Apparently somebody was sitting on it. He tweeted drew franklin february twentieth. Twenty you know. Like basically welcome to the rivalry at crook he added. That was the that was the one that was the reason. Why yeah go. Go dig up. This video. Research like chris rock video. I don't know you find it but go go go watch it. It's unbelievable and this is coming up a forty five point blowout so they get the louisville's coming off a covert pause. There chris mack had had to deal with quarantining himself so they come into chapel hill. They they are. You know had a couple of nickel berry. I think it was out of this game so they had a couple of guys. That are waiting on carl. Jones did play in this game for the people at home. That were wondering you know was this brad. Davison in wisconsin blow out an aberration. He did play in this game. He was the only guy in double digits for louisville but they were completely just out of sorts. I mean they did not seem like they were together. So then you have the basketball issues. And then you compound that with these pr issues. And then it leads to chris mac calling calipari on sunday and having to apologize to him in calipari then going on his radio show monday. Basically saying you know. Look i don't care and You know. I appreciate him calling calling me when he didn't need to. Do you think this is the first time john calipari saw this video when it was put on twitter dot com. I think that. Jon gal perry has seen the video i think he knew the video existed and i think that he probably had laughed at john. Calipari you don't want to deal with chris right like let's just be quite honest they're they're not recruits that you were dealing with with louisville. There is no upside for you to engage this literally zero. So it's like all of this for cow is a headache like even if he did have the video and had seen it like for cow. Why do why even put this out in this thing if only to embarrass the other party. That's the only reason to do it. And that's why the ks ours are. The world's that's why i mean how. How did the case our guys get their his on. We should we should do some of. That's the mystery campaign if i'm kidding. Pain in this video gets into me. I'm sitting here. Everybody like i just got the easiest recruiting tools. How how bad look is this for christmas. Because i think. I think it's i don't i don't think i think it was in good fun. Obviously look i'm gonna. I'm gonna make some assumptions here. He was a little. He had a little bit to drink. He s feeling good video. I should say it was a private video Sound like snapchat or something frustration. I guess chris mack apologize and john. Kelly periods that. I wish you just would have been like. Listen man i was. I was at this party. Which by the way. I guess he had to answer for some cova. The whatever so th that part of it aside the i wish you just would have been listening. I was at this. I was at this thing. I was celebrating a huge win over. Kentucky we do not be kentucky often. It's a it's a big deal and at the university of louisville kentucky. I had a little too much to drink. My buddy is cutting wrestling promo. Yes and i was just walking by at the time. And i was standing there and i got pretty excited. I kind of heard half of what he was saying. He just kinda talked about how we won. And i thought that's all you're saying in my bad tat my chest raise my hand. I'm sorry but studies like i didn't i. It wasn't supposed it was misconstrued like the way he was kind of apologized and was like we didn't mean it to be like a slight on say said we weren't taking a shot at it. Looks like you're taking a shot but it was like you're making a worse it's all you to do is be like listen. I had it too much to drink. We're having fun. He said shade. I was there. And i i kind of you know i was in the moment. Wipes the context context bakes less embarrassing. But if you just like i all i did was just see the video and when i saw the video i said to myself. If you're kentucky fan this is five stars. This is you. Watch this and you say everything that i've ever thought about. Louisville is validated by this video. You know like these. this is a little brother Great to see him right. That is everything. That's why i was kidney pain. That's why you sit in that video al. Because you're like very my guys you need to see this like you need to understand that we're good and that's the only thing that i would say why it's embarrassing. I mean it's it's it is what it is it's out kris. Maximum be fine. You and i both have always liked chris. Mack i think chris mack is weird in the sense where he is viewed as like this kind of quirky really nice coach from the outside and he comes from the scr. Skip prosser world of coaches. But he's also kind of a smart ass and he's kind of you know like he. His perception is not always wanted to one like he. And j p got along really well like reasons for that and so i think there's a little bit of that too where there's some people that may be a little bit shocked or they may not have expected early with archie. Where you're not at a low you can. You can maybe get away with that xavier. there's your at elevated it. It's yeah we're nasa job. You win national championships you you. I don't know and he's taken. The xavier mindset to louisville which is good and a lot of ways. Because it's like you know that's what happens. Let's have fun. Let's but also there's probably a lesson to be learned that and it's also i mean i. It's if michael corleones own was running the family. And then like you know freight running the what i mean like just as far as like behavior you know if you're having fun and like you know jumping around and then you go from like literally. The guy patino is the guy he is the like. That is who you look to to say like that. Is our college basketball coach right. That is the only thing that i would say. Why a little bit embarrassing right in the record. He did not do embarrassing things but they were into godfather ilk of embarrassment. This is more of a like middle school embarrassment. The so it's just different. I don't mind. I really don't mind even even if it is just friendly. I don't mind trash talking between the coaches like you know. Of course it was just a wish you. I wish you i wish it was more godfather essence instead of like you know like when they were when they were doing when chris and and cower the beef about the schedule those fun yeah those it was great. It was good for the rivalry. Cow doesn't want this. The cal does not want to. But that's chris. Mac doesn't let his foot off the gas. Just don't do it this way. Just don't be a little slosh behind your friend and just as you're pointing like that's i don't know because you want one game. I don't know he did say chris. Mack this is the last thing is that he said you know. I think he understood the context talking about cow. Anytime i've ever dealt with coach calipari. He's been great. He offered a few words of advice. Which how does keep between. He and i was appreciative of his response. And i think like yeah. I cal- cow looks great in this. You don't me like he. He's playing the bigger man here and that is that's what i mean by a kentucky fan. You see this video you feel really good. Yeah and if you're a little thin you almost just kind of say. I love you coach. Mac you're great. We have a lot of fun. Let's tighten up especially especially with these guys like 'cause we're already a little bit of a little brother here you doing this. Look worse and rick pitino did not make us look worse in fact he made it look like he knew all their secrets so we have a position of power to this. So that's all it is all right. Yeah that's that's that's enough about that. We need to What else we. Oh tony guy renowned. Yeah i got confused out. What the talk about we. We already kinda hit the virginia loss. Duke i'd like one is due back. I think the answer is pretty clearly. Yes jalen. johnson's gone this. This has now become a story this slap the floor. Did you see that. I love it. I love it so do goes full out. Go full duke. I hope they will do. Yeah it's great. It's great this team. The team that they have currently is more like a duke team than they've had some tides amazing like matthew her being there number one offensive option break field. You know like he is a perfect. Do basketball player. How undefeated are they. They've lost without jalen. Very undefeated vary. Wow wow clerk comes got blocked right. Yeah i think so We're we're watching the final share. Jj catches catches it after the buzzer. So duke may not be back jaylon. Johnson is opted out I've we're we're we're going with this tony guy. They beat virginia yeah. That's my point. Was virginia's best. When is now has remained a beating clemson. They've smoked munson but this is a team that was just coming out of a covert pause are worried about virginia. You're gonna say yes. I assume you're going to see us but keep in mind. Virginia did north carolina. Where where do we stand on. Virginia as a As a threat to to the rest of the country do you believe in the virginia. Cavaliers are good basketball team. They did beat your team Keep that in mind this team that you're very excited about the team that you took the ball for me and you said i'll take forty five points. Yup yup. i believe in this virginia team to a certain extent. I think that they are going to win the acc. I think that they are going easy tournament. No they're gonna win. Acc they're gonna win the acc really. Yeah before state. I think so i in my heart of hearts. I always like this year. I'm just like i'm riding virginia to win the regular season and then from there. I don't like them in march. But it's okay you know i'm not going to i would say virginia has impressed me with the younger guys in the fact that they have more j. huff is who he is. This year is unbelievable. So i think virginia if anything they have over impressed and they have done more than they were ever expected to be in my mind so you know th. There's one of those things where i'm not really hung up on the fact that like virginia a fraud. I don't think there're fraud over achieving the problem with virginia's it's always Either either fraud or their country s never between us and sometimes i think that the be plus team they are not even close the twenty nine if they play the twenty nineteen version. I think they would lose by twenty points. If that gives you an idea of how good. I think they are and that has nothing to do with you. Know that's as more about two thousand nineteen in this team. I think this team is solid team. Solitaire all right. I'll take that that seems fair. Just i'm getting my word above virginia slightly but But you know i say. Don't worry though it do do this to you. What else is there. Oh texas blue. Nineteen point second half lead. We should bring that up a texas might be done. You wanna talk about teams to be worried about. I am very worried about texas. I am very very worried about texas especially the way they like. There's no good way to blow nineteen point second half lead but to have your teammates fighting with each other credit to fran for sheila who caught his right away. Cordier ramey in asia jones. Not only did you catch the fight. Like he saw wasn't really fight but it was like forty remy had to be held back. We'll just like snip and back and forth and then let bygones be bite like corey. Raymond wanted more of them But it wasn't friend. He pointed out he's like that was a little word because these things happen on basketball teams. Sometimes it's like a you come together. You play better you. You have guys like yelled each other trying to hold each other accountable. remy was upset that andrea jones in rotate. On defense. or something. I forget the play the happen. But some about effort or defensive communication or something and Became a big blow up. And sometimes like i said like these these things work But but fran right away. It was like that felt different. Different credit. he ended up texas. Just completely imploded. They've not been playing well recently. As is greg bronwen the no show. Yeah i don't know man. Are we worried about that. We we could have been higher on any college basketball team that we were we were. We were sniffen. The maui bump dude. We were taking the mallory bomb. We had too many molly bunks snort blunt and and. It was not good because we kept looking around. And we're like this is the team they have all the pieces they get cajones a gag get these young athletes they have the guards they have ramey. They have jones. They have coleman and you know that moment in time felt like the final straw rate for the season because as texas tried to get back. You know the. They tried to catch up to the season. They tried to get shock. Smart healthy they tried to. You know to make sure that they stayed in andy catches tears as the weeks went on as they tried to fight over the covid situation. They're not the same team. And in this game it almost was like a microcosm of the entire season. Where everything we're up. Everything is great. Yeah we're doing great. Look how great we are. This is our final four run. This is shock as signature year at texas. And then you know that that rotation happens. It seems like a small minor thing turns into a huge thing. We have a fight on the bench. Courtney remy matt coleman are crazy in a good way that you and i both liked their basketball like very very fixated and very almost you know like they're just live and They're livewire guys and that moment happening and then the fact that okay. So we'll blow the lead we get down to the end of the game and then we have Jack you know we go up. Sims goes up for the tip. It could have been a foul to bang bang play. But they're not going to get that call you know like the. There's no it's just not going to happen. They're going to get the call they wanted. A shocker goes pointed greg brown and got thrown to the ground there. He's pointing at seems like but him him. Losing it right like that. Final scene right. I it said to me like this is the season right this turmoil and we had it all together. Like everything was buttoned up. We were. we're by eighteen. this is it. We're going to do this. We got all the pieces. Let's wrap this thing up and it just. It was just a complete snowball and the fact that shock left that game and was so upset and so distraught and was trying to argue with any ref. That would listen to him about this final play. It just felt very like. I'm just trying to grasp for something. That's no longer there right and and that to me is what hurts because this team did have so much potential and it is a very weird year. Covert obviously is going. We knew that it would change. We're not. we're not saying that there aren't legitimate reasons as got to this point. And just we're at the point exactly suck. This is a team that like without all these things who knows how great they could've been and that's why watching it happen. That's why that one game if you ever watch that one game can show you their season. Yeah and that's that's frustrating. That's pretty much. That's that's become. The microcosm of their season would also it. Just yeah it's unraveling kind of can't do anything about it. And they want teeter on the line of like we saw him in asheville part of what makes them so good. While some precedent was their chemistry. Those guards they deplaned together forever. They're a classmen they They were so good defensively. Texas defense has been horrible lately. It's been like they were. They were one of the best. Like i came out of asheville thing and this is going to be one of the best defensive teams in the country without how tough they are. How long brown. Anybody theoretically jericho sims shop locker. Like i don't know. I i wanted to believe in texas. We did believe in texas. I no longer believe in texas. It's not fun. It's not fun because this was supposed to be shock as year. This was supposed to be the maui. Bumper ride for the texas. Longhorns and i hope that they can get it back. I would love to see greg brown. Maybe come back next year. i know. that's probably there's no chance of. That happens. But that. I wish i could see this team. I guess that's what i want. I want them to come back. I want everybody to come back brad. Davidson is the all on one hand saying semi johnny brown. You go isaiah livers begun. Everyone else come back and let's run the nba team. I'm bringing in shawny brown. I like bad the guy shoot one hundred. Three's and they put out. He made ninety three hundred. I could see that. I sort of That guy i mean he wake the nation All right what. What else is there shadow. Just want to get to shout outs. Guess we can just jump shots. I'll i'll start by first shadow. Which is the yukon. Huskies they they lost to villanova villanova As we expected took care of business against yukon We do not expect yukon to be a force to be reckoned with until march but march comes. They're going to be forced me with and the problem. I think i just realized is that if they don't turn it on soon they're they're not going to be able to play in march when it matters no. I'm semi word. Because i didn't realize you was on the bubble as badly as they are and i guess the point is. Why is you on the bubble. It doesn't make any sense to me. Also get it to resume. They have no bad losses. They took creighton to overtime in a game that they would have won if their fans so. That should count as a actually. That's w move that to the win column there. They've only played. Villanova wants because the game at home that they were supposed to play. Villanova has been postponed twice. That's got to be like half a w that you should get like some sort of credit for that that you you. You don't even get like you know that that yukon hosting villanova's going to be a w and they had that opportunity stolen from. They really have no bad losses. I don't understand this. This is where. I've seen a lot of nerves in college basketball media talking about how the test is stupid and we shouldn't like what does the test even mean and they know what it means. You know exactly what it means. It means ohio state lost michigan. But anybody who watched that game knows. Ohio state is every bit as good as any as michigan or at their once. They know that will house the onesie because you have eyeballs. I don't know what your stats telling you. Terms of deficient defensive defensive Defillo defensive efficiency filter fish but but it's I like to apply the test. Uconn eight nine eyeballs. Toby james book night belongs in. ncaa tournament. i don't care what anybody else says at some point. Your heart your heart your eyeballs matter most algorithms to uconn point-to-point the bad losses to me. I guess did they lose a providence. I think he might have lost a providence providence. Have a bad laws. They lose their paul. They're not losing by twenty two. Paul put them in the tournament. I don't understand. I'm really worried. I'm worried that they're going to turn it onto late. And i don't know but the might be better. Maybe they're going to the big term. I was going to win kimber. This is the book night. Kimba candidate ron. I liked that and We should also point out. We did picks weekend You and i were asked tasked to make picks we both went to and one which is Did we yes. So there you go. But texas for me blewett. I had texas and then ohio state for you so to see it expected our producers role. Shout shout out to the cousy award. Finalists jared butler jalen suggs. I'd assume uk cunningham colin. Gillespie hell of a line of. That's that's that's why. I wanted to shout them out because as i read that whole list. I'm like man every single one of those guys you do not want to face in march literally the also. That's a that's a that's could be a starting five in the nba. That's a houston rockets. From last year. But i i o gillespie suggs and butler. Who's running. who's running point. If those are the fife thugs slug is probably going. I think like the off ball like he brings it up sometimes and then cage the von three decades the five ks magic johnson in nineteen i think suggs suggs our. Maybe gillespie. maybe. I'm linden guys around him. And just have them distribute the ball to them. Yeah just shoot when you're open coming the other way. Yeah that's a good team. It's a fun team. Yeah i would've shuttle luca garza. Who's going to win the national player of the year. I'm sorry fans how it's going to end up happening. Just spoiler alert. He's gonna win. I'm sorry but it's going to happen. he is the iowa all time leading score tate. Roy marvel marvel marvel he. He scored more points than any iowa hawkeye. And as we know in these times of cova this season does not even count so he could come back next year. You wanna talk about guys coming back. It is buried the big ten record book every there would be some really upset illinois. That's for sure so shadow. Luca garza it. He's got he's going national player of the year. And i was gonna win big ten player and i don't i think that's a fair compromise. Yeah i think everybody should happy. That iowa has michigan an ohio state back to back coming up this week so lagaras national player of the year. I think a lot of people want him. Helmet the signature win. They won the signature mobile where they say that's where he wanted. He has two opportunities to do that on a big stage. So i i. I'm expecting to do so. I will be watching. What else is there shuttle josh passenger. Who says eleven teams from the. Acc should make it to the ncaa. Tournament i love that he just recycled back from two thousand seventeen. He's like wear my notes. yep eleven teams. I looked it up today. There are not even on eleven teams when records and the acc they should be in as it stands. Pittsburgh was a pit. That's five hundred right now. I pulled up the standards. And they're there earlier only ten teams with winning records and he says should be. That's our coach. God content machine. This guy he really is unbelievable. I wanna shout out my my high school brownsboro highschool who is you know. I talked about the dogs. A lot on the show. the sponsored by jordan right we are sponsored by the the browns berg high school girls. Basketball team will be playing in the state finals on saturday. The indiana state finals were in in forty. Nine states just basketball. So this is this is this really counts like two or three state. titles there oughta miracle run right now. Allie becky is our is our star player. She had thirty one points ninety nine rebounds against franklin d. They she played. The team. Plays lockdown defense. So i'd to to all the The all the girls back home. I see you Go get it done. Take state as we say in indiana. You don't win state you take state and shot. I wanna know ladies wanna now one game to go. We're playing you'll like this. You're playing the crown point bulldogs bulldogs bulldog there. You go year that we picked our bracket and we just put dogs wildcats kentucky in arizona. Very mad yeah. That was good anything else. That's pretty much all i got I wanna shout show miller. Three hundred wins Pac twelve in arizona. The third air as a coach do that. We joked about it at the end of our last episode last week but he finally did it this weekend. So shawn miller. I don't know how many john how are you going gonna take with you when you leave but Three hundred for now and that's all we can ask for. Oh speaking of the people back home. I wanna shout out the people back home because this is the two year anniversary of me. Moving to la so matters or not. but i was. I had the pointed out to me this morning. I was like wow and then i tried to get sentimental hourly work. I don't know i didn't really feel anything. I can't believe it was two years. I've lived here for two years now. So i look in the mirror and i don't recognize myself and then i realize it's like yeah. It's definitely been a long time. I see. I saw a video of us last year. You know doing shows at fox and it looks like two different people look. It's a pandemic at ages. All your except for lebron. Tom brady mike. How how do these guys do it. Congratulations to your february national champion michigan wolverines hang the banner. Yes howard hunter. Dickinson that trump. Yes bitch. I texted able lebron's house like this is what they do with. Carry behind the back pass. He's like city planning a pair. I was talking to dunkin as the game was going on because he was like. He's like dude this guy because he he goes. I didn't realize these teams good like we're unbelievable. You guys are great again man. It's awesome like it's been. It's been a fun year for whatever. And i texted him at halftime. But also i think what's going to end up happening is isaiah livers is gonna hit a buzzer beater. Because i deserve this for all the other shit. I've talked livers on dunkin's behalf or the years i said he's gonna hit a buzzer beater. And it's going to be a dagger my heart rolling the justice it was not a buzzer beater. But it was effectively. This was the play that won the game. And of course it had to be. And i hate you like brock's too by the way you lie brooks if you're listening. He's a great shooter. I don't like him. i don't like any of them. I don't like any of schone brown. And eli brooks. I do both those guys We'll we'll meet again michigan. This isn't over. This isn't over enjoyer when we will meet again until then goodbye.

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Charlie Ward Speaks On His College Career As A Dual Athlete And On The Houston Cougars

The Sean Salisbury Show

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Charlie Ward Speaks On His College Career As A Dual Athlete And On The Houston Cougars

"Sean salisbury show continues in no sports. Talk seven ninety. Love this next guest. The great humans aside from everybody. Talk about bo and dion. But when you're the heisman trophy winner in one sport in the first round draft. Pick another and tasks up football. Because you're basketball guy to want to like. I said a great father and a great human to boot. He is the host of the believe in the acc on the believe podcast network heisman trophy winner former nba veteran first round pick. The knicks joins us. Here it's fine four time. Got a lot to talk about. Charlie ward charlie. Welcome in moscow. Talk to you again but part to shot appreciate All the work you've done As a player has an analyst And i'm grateful to be on your show. Great to have you will first off. Tell me what this tell. Tell us about your podcast. You're man of faith you're a obviously a family man and a great athlete. Balancing it. also tell me about the belief podcast. What is this Actually leaving acc so talk of center around acc some off off Top is that we talk about But it's just around. You know the sports and mainly football and basketball. Do throw in some other sports of shot out in different things but it's mainly Helping about is sport. I like it. Believe in the acc on the believe podcast network and he played in the acc. Obviously a great football and basketball player. Charlie you got to the elite eight when you were florida stays correct yes. We went to the elite eight loss to kentucky how to limited first of all. Let me. Let me backtrack push forward. Even more from that wife wide basketball over football. You're such a dynamic quarterback. Why did you choose basketball Well i mean one thing that i wanted to do Much senior year was to give options. 'cause i enjoyed basketball A lot as well. And i heard i was gonna you know. Draft grade was third or fourth round Which is very If that's Something that you your only option are about one and chemo. Nba options open so chose klay back to my senior year in college Which meant that. I wasn't wanting to sink made it to the nfl process And and so as i went through the process of course. I missed to combine normal combine. The first one. I went to the second where you know. They have guys who injured. Come and meet the doctors. No such things and i did. Day had a pro day here and just wanted to kim options open and so when you keep your options open and you're not wondering committed. I new the ramifications or the consequences that could happen And those that consequence happened because my because of me being knocked committed one percent committed to the nfl process. And you know. I didn't have an idea on their first round draft pick in the nba and anytime And i was bednets. People say. been yourself You know when. I didn't get drafted in the nfl. I just chose to dig deeper into prefer nba droughts and Went through a lot of things to do that trips and planning a lot of Games to to prove myself and i was grateful. That guy opened that door for me. One of the great lates. We've seen heisman trophy winner. First round draft. Pick close to the believe in the acc on the believe podcast network heisman trophy winner and former nba veteran. First round. pick. Charlie ward join. Just here on the sean salisbury. Show charlie if you look at it. Look at the landscape the nba. I want to get to the final four and a second. Look at the landscape the nba. Because i find your career and everything about you so intriguing and decisions and if you look now at the nba and the nfl. How it is today. What would you choose. Now if you're if you were coming out this year in the circumstances now it'd be different because you wouldn't be a third round fourth round grade coming out now it'd be much higher but understanding the circumstances in the game the way it's played. Which one would you choose today It would definitely be tough More tough choice due to the fact that they are giving us guys my size An opportunity to be first round picks You know when i was coming out that was on the issue you had to be a certain size playing a certain type system In order for you to be a first round pick and but in today's you know things have changed Guys coming out from you. Know the spray type systems are first picks first round picks Guys my size. Six foot six one or get an opportunity to be I picks first round picks. And i think management change They have different spouse and their their car college coaches and They see style they can win and they're putting offenses around that that guy and so i think the the time to change and so i wouldn't say you know things will be different because i enjoy my experience But it the nba definitely is different in this day and age as well So it definitely be a tough decision. Charlie ward heisman trophy winner joins us here. First round draft. Pick on the sean sows. Brace show sports talk seven ninety charlie. I would imagine you're watching college basketball closely being a sports fan that you are talking about the houston cougars and my kelvin sampson legitimate. I mean it's a tough road against baylor may be gonzaga. You give them a legitimate chance to be carrying the trophy when it's all done on monday night Crazy part about it is. I mean i like houston I don't know if they're win But i liked them just the way. They play A manager oh. I love it game. he's tall long arms but the thing he's very cerebral he understands the game. Plays the game right way They they play defense And they have guys that can shoot the ball as well Sasser grimes a very good outside shooters and they played the same way all year. That's want them to play the same. All your does in the final four for the most part. But i like houston I don't think it'll be easy gain for the team to play baylor because they're gonna play a certain way and you know bilas very good as well So that's the game. Should be good but i do like houston But the thing that you can't get his co. samson He's a virtual coach. He's a very good coach He's got the best out of his guys. And i don't see that happening. I don't see that changing Against bela one thing. I do like About houston is you know on offense. They they share it They shoot it and then they chase it so you're gonna have to be prepared and ready for battle each and every time the ball goes out and that's just the way. They beat teams a lot of times. They might shoot all the not shoot. It will all the time they gonna go and chase it and get multiple opportunities and they find their guys who can stroke it You know an outside after those opportunities. I'm so i. I like. Houston i mean i know people talking about gonzaga baylor But i do like houston And and for them to be able to win two games. Some be tough but i'd like the way they played a game. Yeah you can sustain that great defense and rebounding it to the offensive glass charlie. I'm at so much admiration for you when you were playing in college in the nba. But just the way you handled yourself as a gentleman is at person but also just the decisions you went through in the example. You've been throughout. So i if. I had a young man and i wanted to send him to you or of a young woman either way but it's a high school athlete and coach tells them a focus on one sport. What advice would you give a person who excelled two sports or three sports in high school. What advice would you give them. A coach told them that in high school Well that i would tell them that. i actually tried to get by guys. I coached high school basketball down here at florida state university school and i tried to get my guys to clear complimentary sport Because the more you play one sport at some point you're going to get bored And you may lose focus. Yes you can get much better. If you focus on one sport. However i think there needs to be a period where you know you need to take a break and residents you know most times you go to school. We go to academic school From august to mate and then we have summer. And there's a reason why you do that Because you need a break. And so. I don't see it in in a different for Being a student athlete and there are some that needs to focus on one sport. I just don't think that needs to be early Early on in studio now needs career But i think at some point there may be a kid who need who need to focus because you may be behind you know what does athlete clearly or. He's trying to make the team. Whatever it may be And he needs to prepare for that but then again i'm just a big believer that When you make life decisions a choices you have to live the consequences and so if you put all your eggs in one basket as far as trying to make a team and you don't make back team then you don't have any other options outside of you know not doing anything. And so i just think it just it. It's always good to have Be well rounded And prepare yourself for multiple sports but some people choose to make that decision. And they have to live with whatever's out our coaches basketball and florida. He's a heisman. Trophy winner is a first round draft. Pick one of the great people on the planet. He's the host of the believe in the acc. On the believe podcast network. Charlie ward pleasure to have you on. You're always welcome on this show. Obviously and it's great here awesome insight not only basketball but on life and Keep coach those kids up my friend. I appreciate the compliment. And thanks for spending a handful of minutes with me and enjoy the final four this weekend but lottery said it sean Base for having me on your the best appreciated great charlie ward. Thanks charlie phenomenal guys. I'm telling you. If charlie ward was playing football i mean i know how good he wasn't battle. Charlie ward was playing football in the nfl now. he'd be a starting quarterback in this league dynamic player. He was undersized. I well you're going to go through that list. Cuyler pretty good right. Guess charlie was before cuyler dopp cuyler. Does that make sense. I mean who. Charlie ward was cayenne. 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Hour 4: Tom Hart

The Paul Finebaum Show

34:12 min | 3 months ago

Hour 4: Tom Hart

"Pride passion and patron three of college. Football leaves here. The the paul finebaum show our four podcast and we welcome you back one more hour to go. And what has been a very busy when shane beamer. Among the guests tomorrow the new coach at the university of south carolina. It is a big night. It is tuesday night until it's a big night of sec basketball alabama out there. You have tennessee and mississippi state tennessee trying to get back in the winning in the win column after a rough week and tom hard joins us of course on the call tonight. And so many big calls in the sec. That tom does of course in football and in basketball. Tom thanks for joining us. Let's start with tennessee. What's going on. Well they're missing their backup point guard their starting point guard has a bum hip jaded. Springer's been out with an ankle injury. He's a little slow to return. A santiago scooby has a hip injury. That's been bothering him and tennessee team. Which prides itself on defense and rick. Barnes is a sensational coach and has done a tremendous job with them defensively. They still slow the other team down. The problem is they've been given the other team too. Many possessions thirty six turnovers over their last two games and point guard. Health has a has a big is a big reason behind it. So i don't think he's going to be percent tonight. I think springer's probably not likely to play. I'm not sure win. He'll get back on the floor. They really miss him badly. Tennessee strength is its depth while. There's nobody in sec scoring in the top twenty they just run waves at you. But when that depth takes a hit i think their strength takes a hit tom to say the least. This has been an unusual year in the sec. When tennessee was expected to be all world alabama think to finish fifth kentucky expected to make a run Let me move to kentucky for a second and it's not even a front burner conversation anymore. About what has happened to them time. Let me state the obvious here. Time is running out. Put your thoughts having seen kentucky often during this winter the nail on the head. I mean this is a season and we can say this about anything right. It's a season unlike any of us have ever seen before. Now if you want to take a broader view of where kentucky is i would simply say. Misery loves company duke north carolina. Both having terrible years. Kansas is in danger of losing four in a row which would be the first time under bill self since he was the head coach at oral roberts. That's been a while. It's been a tough year for those blue bloods. So kentucky's got got elite company with them. There's no doubt about it. The problem is with kentucky. It's really a myriad of problems right. They're playing an older style. Go up gets an alabama team tonight. That is very modern style. Nothing but threes into twos the guys kentucky thought they could lean on were either slow develop or they're just not going to get there this year and if that doesn't happen first of all they got to win a national to make it to the tournament anyway. If those guys don't develop they don't have a chance to win and nashville anyway What's what's interesting to me paul. From where i say. Never ever tell a fan base what they should think of their team or their coach or their players to me. That's very personal. What you feel about your team but the fans at duke our understanding and the fans at north carolina. This'll be the second straight season they don't make the tournament and they say well we were due for rebuild and and there's no less passionate either one of those places but there are certainly more understanding there is very little understanding in the commonwealth that this team has failed to produce even though they have a hall of fame coach who's taken them to new heights over the last eleven years. We'll move on because frankly there's not much more to say about kentucky and yes i would imagine over these last couple of weeks talk shows up there have been raging but the window is piss pretty obvious what it is. Let me ask you about alabama. Because you knew you knew you knew nato which was building a program for the future but They have exploded. What's going on with them. Well i think it's an interesting time with kentucky and the one thing of fan base doesn't want the the number one thing is to be irrelevant in so i think that a plies to the previous subject of our conversation alabama is more relevant in college basketball than maybe they've ever been go back to the fifties the last time that they finished the season undefeated. Sec play in fact. The football team has eighteen undefeated seasons since one thousand nine hundred eighty six when the basketball team lasted. They're certainly ahead of schedule for nato's but it is a perfect blueprint that he put into play since he got there from buffalo in. What was that. It was simple. The offense is going to be wide open. We're taking handcuffs off. These guys played for an nba head coach and avery johnson. Who wanted to run sets every time down the floor and introduce new concepts almost on a daily basis. I think that limited were guys were from a from a mental standpoint. They just wanted to get out and play cairo. Lewis turned into a lottery. Pick last year under. Nato's a jump pettis guy who now all of a sudden has an interest in playing defense great team basketball and herb jones guy. When i talked to other coaches in this league pau they say jones is the conference player of the year. They love the heat does as the glue guy on that team also credibly high rate that he knocks down from threes. And this modern era of basketball where you take threes and that opens up the defense and that turns into easy twos was something that the houston rockets really were the first in the nba to go full bore on. They really went into it probably four or five years ago. They had their g. league team doing it just to kind of get everybody in the organization used to it and nato said. Hey that can work here. Employers don't want to be handcuffed they wanna play unencumbered and that certainly worked. Throw this one out you though. One thing that's kind of been buried in all of alabama's offense conference record. Twenty three threes at the hit against lsu last week is this season to me. The biggest difference is he hasn't planks defense. They're a top fifteen defensive efficiency team. And i think part of that is because other teams are trying to play catch and they put bad shots and they try to shoot with them and that's been hard to do but the defense is what's gonna keep them in in key games. We all know cruel the nc double a. Can be it's one and you're done and if you have an shooting night you rely so heavily on the threes you're endanger villanova national championship playing that style. Alabama can do the same but to me they could do because they could survive off shooting night because they've been playing good team defense. You alabama fan psalm. And i'm already hearing from some of them. Why can't we meeting the alabama fans win a national championship. So let me let me throw it back to you as we wrap up. You've you've answered the question impart but is this alabama team capable of winning it all one hundred percent absolutely i mean Think about it this way. He beat all the teams that were in front of them in the preseason poll fritz so obviously you know everybody was guilty of sleeping on him coming into this season. I would also throw out there. That is such an odd season. Anything can happen. Gonzaga baylor have proven themselves to be the class of college basketball. And ps the big twelve challenges coming up this weekend. I really wish alabama was matched up with baylor. I think it'd be an incredible game. I digress yes they can win it. They have great guard play. They have a style of play can keep going. They played good defense. They can beat any team on any given night and in the nc double a. tournament. You're going to be asked to do that. One that you're going to be asked to survive a bad night. And i think their defense can allow them to do that. And you're going to be asked to beat someone that maybe you shouldn't and they have the firepower to do that. A lot of the fantastic games starting at the top of the hour. We mentioned kentucky in alabama Tennessee and mississippi state game tom. We'll be doing tom tall. Great to see you. We look forward to chatting often as we make the turn toward March madness thanks so much for joining us anytime. Paul happy to carve out a few minutes for you and your guys have a great day. You got tom hart on the call for the volunteers tonight as they tried to get back on. The winning ways against mississippi state team had some pretty good moments as well under then how we are heading to a break. More of your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five. We are back after listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast up next. What's up girl. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work. You know it's easy. Bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geico dot com at one. That's that was white once last thing. You've been running wittily. Qb's kenneth on clutch td's lacrosse novus. Step behind the cloud. Because you know his name. You thirty to push bruce lee showing no mercy fast five g. No one knows goes deeper. Espn download now. Thank you for taking my call today. Paul and you know almost called you last week after. That was our press conference by your chancellor. But i thought you know i'm just going to wait and see how this shakes out but you know someone who is practically a sign of tennessee. You know there's not situation as real concerned but two quick things danny white. Isn't he the same guy that terry don't foolishness about. Ucf winning the national championship to years. So yes he is you know. We mocked him pretty much for few weeks on his show. You recall and now he's you're athletes. I am not taking back what i said at the time. I thought they were ridiculous comments. And i think i believe i haven't seen the entire. I think he'd double down on them the other day he said he said i think i think the quoted more than one team can share the national championship which is definitely a shot at alabama. Well i think it was smart now. There's sec. I bled that all that talk down. I we not me but second thing about tennessee. Nothing surprises me. Really about tennessee. Fan base having grown up there. But i'm shot. That's such a large percentage of them would take lane kiffin back. I mean does that surprise you. Yes it would. It wasn't like the break-up was cordial if kiffin that kiffin coming back. I am found that story to be not their there. Handful talk about it. Yeah well squirrel. Have you ever been as desperate as tennessee. Fans all right now. Well it's like they is like they dated good-looking girl and they caught her cheating on him and then years later they realize she's the best looking more than before. I would hardly compare with lane different tennessee mere cheating. I mean that was like that would be that would be benevolent. It was recruiting there. I mean you gotta go back and talk about what he was doing that day when they were they'd cut his phone off and didn't sign his own way back from florida human run and then they had tennessee fans creep into the hedge bush's at his house. Scaring leyland kids. I mean it's kind of crazy few days air when when he quit so again. I just. I'm just shocked with his name. Comes up so much in this tennessee coach search. And then i agree. I hope you say it's not I think he's interested. I think he's a good place. Thanks for taking my call. It's been a really great time you on. I'm in is up next. What do you say. I'm in good afternoon. Thanks for taking my call from the capital city. He loves good score. Call eleven good. Tom horton review. He does a great job on the basketball games. Paul you have been together for a long time now right Goo coaches of alabama and auburn. When you when you came to montgomery no we came there in two thousand and one is that right so do both. And tub reveal goes and senator coverdale. Yes you know. I i just i was thinking that. And and my if my recollection as close. I believe since. I've been talking to you. Every team in the scc has at least had four head coaches in football. That's an amazing little step. He enough all. I know you pretty well then. Then maybe your listeners. Don't know you but can give them kind of an insight when when these people were calling and and they're all convinced that they're smarter than the last caller when they give coach referrals and they honestly know that. There's a lot of heavyweight people. Listening to your program. Tend to call in quite often and say they listen regular and these people call him with these coaching. You know suggestions. They believe that they're the smartest guy in the group of all the callers and it does smart people and well-known people are gonna pick them out and said you know what that guy's right. Why haven't we seen this what we've been missing and deep down inside you've done snatched your jacket off to grab your shirt and your time. Rip them off like superman. You've lean towards the camera with one eye closed one. Are you know wide. Open and eyebrow cock and you're saying to yourself mad as hell and i'm not taking this anymore and then you shake yourself and you sit back down in your chair and you kinda straighten up and you say bruce from colorado welcome to the show and then you know you do this day in and day out day in day. Four hours a day five days a week. We're going on twenty years. And you go through this. Because i've seen you privately in the studio and i've seen you bris from colorado. Your next fall. I in my own checking here getting. Can you hear me can hear me. I i think. I think i think peyton manning. I'll be next coach. Tennessee what is like the hang listener. Response day paul okay. Louis is up next in louisiana. Hey louis fellow. Apollo thanks for taking my call thank you. Oh i got a question. I may stand to be corrected about our go. You gave a list of the greatest coaches in america in college coaches right in. I might have misunderstood. But i didn't hear air pushing his name in there. Well i only read the top ten but I'll have to go back. And look i mean he he he would. He should be on any any list of greatest coaches. I would agree with you on them. Yeah i want sorta skin. Why was on the phone waiting. I heard the lady say they didn't have any heisman. Trophy winners. well that's true but at the time. You look back julia. He did not have any at alabama cat. I know i'm. I'm i'm really. I know we're talking about alabama. You gotta remember. When air season was the coach at notre dame the first he he got john hood john hewitt came from nowhere. He wanted to heisman trophy. And i think joe joe name was an alabama. Yeah he was in some way back back then notre dame. This is the same school that what about ten years earlier. Paul horning beat johnny majors. I believe jim brown on two or nine or a one and nine team so notre dame used to dominate the media influence in a way that was unprecedented. Agree with that. But probably wasn't only notre dame it was the big can because one year somewheres in an late sixties georgia beat alabama First game of the year the second game. They went to michigan and played michigan. And be six to three now. they beat alabama. They didn't make the top ten but after they beat michigan they jumped into missouri. That's we'll face was back then. They didn't they didn't they. Didn't mechanize the south no and lewis. It cost alabama national championships. And for those who don't understand why history will will bear out when i'm about to say there was an extreme bias against the south especially alabama because of the racial history. Pretty dark history. I might add of that state. And there were riders who who would not embrace it because they did not have black players at the time so there punitive action taken and they pay a price for their lackadaisical if not Heinous attitude toward toward integrating college football and everything else for that matter. All i'm eighty two years old. And i still scratch my head. How billy cannon get that is on trophy. I think he deserved. When did he get it. Compete who who. Who else came out year. Sorry who else was in contention that year. I think rutgers had a player. Yeah okay. Yeah i mostly. That's one heisman. The fifty eight. I did not cover that one fifty nine. Hey thank you for the call. Great to have you on. What a pleasure to hear from you and let's talk to rhonda who is in kentucky. Hey ronda you're on the air. Paul how are you. We're well thank you for the call as always great. Hey of spoken. Many times about being raised in curry alabama. I grew up going to alabama games watching the bayer. I think we were the first people in the senate stadium every time because my dad wanted to watch all the warm up. The bear leaning on the goal post so wanted to tell my story where was with a heard the news and have found out about the bear. I was finishing my school in western kentucky university of the junior. I walked into the wing of my dorm. There were six rooms in each wings and all of us girls were closed and we gathered almost every evening joing kim's room person on the right. I had a really long day that day. It was a wednesday Soon as i walked in freshman alicia from winterbrook kentucky said hey did you hear the bear died. They just all they all knew what a band i was and i just stood there. I think i built the world turning. You could have heard a pin drop. Turn to a room called. My parents collect you talked about using a payphone earlier. Right so call. My parents My mom answered. She was choked up and just handed the phone up to my daddy when we talked Of course you couldn't talk too long because you would be running the phone bill on great long distance quite exactly so so sad i. I didn't leave my room until that friday Had a big project dude. I went to turn that in. And i'll never forget my professor to scranton me. You know me now you know. I'm a big fan though. Yeah i look forward to the game tonight. Hope we do as well as we did. The last time we played kentucky couple of weeks ago. And i want to encourage all the obama fans out there to. Let's get behind this basketball team coach. Nate oats you know having a national championship in football and basketball would be a fantastic year. It has happened before it happened at the university of florida. Yes yes all right paul. Thank you for letting me talk. And look forward to seeing you here in louisville hopefully really. I can't wait to get anywhere. Thank you louisville's a great town. Thanks ron yeah we. We really haven't talked about a little bit but it is a you know. I read something today about people reflecting back on kobe bryant a year ago and that was another one of those shocking moments in sports history but for alabamians of of of a certain age. Thirty eight years ago today easily one of the saddest days in history It's heard from a lot of friends who were commemorating and memoir and remembering it as well. We will take a break. We still have thirty minutes to go on this tuesday night. We hope you'll stick around to and listening. Paul finebaum show podcast back. It's great to have you. Final twenty five minutes on this tuesday night and rob starts us off from new jersey. Hey rob today and doing great. Thank you hope you are well. It takes me two weeks. But i finally got through wonder has talking a couple of weeks ago. About the impact of the sec network. And i just had been trying to get into. Say i mean. Sec ex pat. I got my undergraduate degree in athens. Sixty-nine law degree seventy two came home to new jersey to practice law and back then like many people we were cut off from what was going on in the sec. Just wasn't covered. And now we have the paul finebaum. It's wonderful. I mean the interesting and unique people that called in some of them are little more unique than others but you know the perspectives that data. It's it's just been wonderful guy. Speak for tens of thousands of sec ex-pats living around the country. When we say thank you for what you do for it. Well rob thank you because this was a fascinating idea. And i can. I can say this. Because i i was hired. I was the first person hired to be first. Talent hired to be for on the sec network. So i played a role with people who had already been working on it in the marketing of it and the selling of not not to fans but to the cable companies the satellite companies and it was fascinating to to go to those meetings and go to those conversations and try to talk to people in new york about the fans support and i remember not long after we launched. Joe tessa tour. Tim tebow marcus. Spears and i did a tour of all the advertising agencies on madison avenue even though some are no longer on madison avenue. And i really felt like we were we were we might as well been gorky park in moscow trying to convince russians who we were because those people elected us. Forget me kim tibo. They didn't know who he was. And maybe the maybe they get a picture for their daughter but it was. It was unbelievable. So when i hear you say what you said about everyone that has worked the sec network and continues to i it. It's really gratifying to hear well. I'm happy to do. And by the way switching gears You know one of my classmates in undergraduate school i didn't know was lewis grizzard. Oh my goodness there's still remembered. The saas today. Rob sadly not as and i. I got to know him toward the end and did some interviews with them but one of these days. Somebody needs to do one of these documentaries on him. I don't know if you know of his era if anyone had more influence on the on the sec culture than lewis did his wife Wrote a book about the last one But i wish. I wish i could offer you something but but that that is something that needs to be done because forget his connection to georgia but he was. He really was a trailblazer really. Know the expansion of the sports medium. I mean anyone into comedy which he was just hilarious. I saw one of your shows once. And i can't imagine what he was. I mean i knew what he was like late in his life. i can't imagine what he was like undergraduate. You know he probably wrote what was the greatest newspaper headline about an upcoming college football game. I do go ahead. And i'll let you say you're a lawyer. It was georgia south carolina game or middle linebacker. Happy dick's newspaper read. Dogs play talks with dicks out. Hey know you're such a big fan of the show. Can you give me a job. When i get fired tomorrow morning for you telling jokes retired around and listen to you. Every afternoon well What type of law did you practice. I was a personal injury. Litigator and why you when. I came home at night. I didn't wanna talk about it now because it's not fun work. 'cause you're dealing with other people's misery now well robert. It's what a pleasure by the i can. Listen to your. You could have been a late night. Dj in the seventies playing Classic rock i was. I was up doing closing statements in front of picture i get. That's when you're trying to case you're working twelve fourteen hours a day sometimes more and just what it is. If you want to do it well most did you practice Mainly in the northeast. Ya strictly in new jersey an occasional for a into manhattan or philly federal courts year. Wow what a what. A what a fascinating. I could listen to your stories all night. I'm fascinated by that field and always have not happy store. No no no. I don't think people realize that is a tough field. Because you're literally going up against the alabama's and florida's of the world when it comes to law firms and and i it's i did not particularly care for for personal injury attorneys when i was in the newspaper business early on because i had lean on those big law firms to keep me out of trouble but i do appreciate i do appreciate it now i can. I can assure you well thank you. I wasn't a big law firm but I held my on was well respected. And that's all you can ask. That's fantastic well. Thank you so much for calling i. It's a pleasure to hear from you. Great to talk to. Wow what a what. An interesting tale. They're really appreciated that. Let's check in with brad. Who is in. Let me make sure. I get this correct brad. There paul how you doing. I'm doing great. How are you doing. Well i was gonna tell you. I've got the answer to cat. Daddy's question about a son that ended up being better coats than his dad. Who's at coaching in lane kiffin. Well yeah that's a that's a good point I think i was thinking more big picture. And by the way get monte. Kiffin was an amazing defensive coach. Eight was but he was the head coach at nc state. I believe i forgot. You're absolutely right. But i'm gonna go ask if we're not talking about many others the good point. That's right. I was gonna put you on the spot a little bit. This year that were full were openings in scc Allburn carolina What was it vanderbilt in tennessee. How would you write those jobs as far as the best job. One-third aubrey south carolina. And what was the other one. Tennessee i would. I would say i would say. Auburn is the best job of those group that group. Okay because i think it auguring forget to sabin factor but think about this in the in the last ten years Ten seasons eleven seasons now auburn is played for the national championship twice and a couple years ago. They had a shot at getting back there. Had they beaten georgia in the sec. Championship game tennessee hasn't come near a national championship. Run since what two thousand and three. The one did not believe it was ninety eight. Yeah they made me by the way in two thousand and one in tennessee and beaten if only beaten sabin and the sec championship game which he should have done. They would've played for the title. So the other vanderbilt speaks for itself. South carolina recruiting bay. It's a it's a tough a tough climb there. I think definitely the best. Here's here's the point. I was i was bringing. I think there are five schools. That are in a class of their own Alabama georgia florida. Am and lsu right. I think you to those are probably the best job in the city. Okay so now. If you say auburn god is better tennessee. That's it okay and they'd be going down and now you're looking at kentucky or south carolina point. I'm making this. Tennessee comes out as being like the eight best job. If you're saying it's better than this. Mississippi state arkansas missouri. It's like the eight best job in the in the in the sec. Yeah no that's a good point. And i agree with you and i and i think the am job has emerged. But but there's no stopping us ask you how out of those that are not in the top five If if somebody made you answer this which one do you feel as though is the best Sleeping out of the top five used to by the way five years ago i am was sleeping giant if they ever got it right improve but i didn't come up with. That coach bryan. Came up with that as you know he wants. He wants said that the program would be out of control again if they ever got it right so we're talking about What are we talking about. I'm i'm trying to do the policy. Kentucky olver south carolina okay. Well i'm probably I do think. I think tennessee could be in that category after a couple of years. Okay because of the fan. Base and tennessee has a lot going for it. Not right now. But it can. And i mean but i think this is critical tennessee. If it doesn't get this right is going to end up being nebraska which is really a forgotten program and you and i it wasn't that long ago that nebraska was the dominant program in college football. Thank you for listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast the paul finebaum. Show airs weekdays on the sec network beginning at three eastern.

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Best Ever?

Around the Horn

24:02 min | Last month

Best Ever?

"Two shots tickets. Who all find trabbie enormity of stanford win and of arizona hearts and zag baylor rematch for the title. There is nothing in the world better than this morning. With this panel's let's go around. The war stanford winning all phony. There's nothing everybody got everything about that. Make wishing to. This is a dream match for the national title. Baylor and gonzaga. Please hear me out. After saturday night's classic. Maybe we do gonzaga baylor. First quarter baylor. Ucla second quarter ucla gonzaga's third quarter. And then the fourth quarter for the title all right. Maybe we're still floating after suggish. Jot where we're just floating after. Ucla gonzaga gave us everything. We could possibly watch a basketball game so before we get to nice moments me in frizzes woody page. Is that the best college basketball game you ever saw. Yes four since nineteen seventy-three that's forty eight years and i'm going to say that's the best finish i've ever seen in half century and that includes michael jordan at the end of a game that includes chalmers that includes so many others. Oh that's you gotta talk about little later shot. I saw one. I saw those and i'll say this forty forty five feet. He didn't even have to call bike. Shot it. I think he actually meant to do that at the end. But when you have a shot from that far away the goes in yes. It's the best finish. I've ever seen this talking three seconds ago. You said he didn't mean to bag that you go on tv and you say you can get a read on what he page bill last week. Is this the greatest college. We'll never what are you. Forgot to mention one game. The greatest college game ever nineteen eighty-three. Nc state houston come on. Woody lorenzo raw in. That was the greatest game ever. I'm not. I'm not saying this 'cause usually lost or maybe i am santa 'cause ucla lost but those north carolina's state game was the was. The greatest was the biggest upset in college basketball. History time jim valvano it spot a whole movement there. Are you kidding me. What he this game was great but it wasn't for championship now. The shot i think the shot me being the greatest shot in the answer chairman history but the actual game itself. It wasn't four tidal no. There's big big better title. That is real laskey gymnastics there so the game was in the greatest ever even though it had the most changes but what they're shot was the greatest ever pablo tori was. Ucla gonzaga degree. This game ever it was to me. It was the best game. I have been aware of over the course of my thirty five years on this planet. And we've been focusing a lot tony on the moments and the steaks and those are ingredients. But that's a disservice to this game because from opening ted. This was like a fight from the eighties. It was just exchanges over and over again. And there's that phrase in boxing they'll bring in because i think it makes the point styles make fights right. This was entertainment as much as it was history and to watch ucla. Which had i believe like the worst point spread and a quarter century. That's much gonzaga was favored by return. Fire with mid range shots. Johnny giuseppe every single time down the floor hockey says every single time on the floor. Having an answer tony that to me is why this game was the best. From point zero to the very end it was amazing. Consistent monica mcnutt. Was this the greatest college basketball game ever. I can't give it the greatest ever tony. I think people are calling it. The greatest ever you struggle to get it through your thick skulls. That ucla was not gonna go down lightly. This was a team that hung their head on playing defense. The entire tournament gonzaga had not yet met defensive pressure like that. I think the greatest game still goes to the national championship villanova and north carolina. And they're huge shot. That kris jenkins ran. That shop was to win. A national show was to get to the national title game. But since you brought up. Flash shot is the greatest college basketball hitter. History greater than jenkins greater than charles was such as good as the subs block and save and pass and go ahead bill. I think he fouled him. I think some southbound that no tony this sequence. He found difficulty. It's if that's not a foul number one is that is not a foul that dot call to be made at that moment to me. The only guy who can make that play in college basketball was jalen suggs. And that's the point that i think might make the number one overall pick in the nba draft. Because he can do all of those things to me. It was more impressive than the shocker. The guy that jalen has to see next. Dave mitchell would like to have a word in terms of making incredible plays on the defensive end of the basketball but i think jalen that play was huge but the past that he made the one handed bounce faster. Timmy and transition. Now that was a thing of beauty would he page. Yes bill you got subs do you know that. Here's a guy. Had sixty five points. Twenty five rebounds five assists and he showed it in those last moments not only defensively but offensively. Not enough italian chef. Kiss on the show. Thank you very much for that. Monica okay thank you so tonight gonzaga after all the years of cinderella and getting close them for the title and the undefeated season but they have to follow up. What some of you think is the greatest game ever. Does anybody think that might be tough. Emotional toll pressure and all pro or con con tony. I know we're also were excited. Up until that game have been on a twenty seven game win streak in double digits which says to me how they not been pushed this difficulty into an overtime game that required a buzzer beater. But they also haven't had to have such a turnaround and david mitchell in particular. Guess is dick name. Is tony just asked me what is nickname monica. His nickname is off night because when he guards the best players on the other. Two you personally and everybody doing with me. That is perfect. All right let me ask you the same question. Is it a pro or conference. Negga for the emotional uptick that last game had for them. Yeah it does feel like it's hard to top that it feels like there was a peak and now feels like baylor to now mix a bunch of metaphors if feels like baylor might be the finland right because the us wins the miracle on ice. But that wasn't the gold medal game right. That was against the ussr now to play again which is strange. Psychologically as monica set. I just think gonzaga luckily is good enough to win it. But i feel like there must be a little bit of a would've pablo tori for strange. Psychologically bill plastic. You have about you. That's i think there's a physical element to this. I think is wiped out. They only played two subs a game for total of thousand nine minutes to starters average forty minutes of the game. They're going through this emotional letdown and baylor is is is ready primed. I think definitely let emotional letdown. They won the game. They'll flash. But i mean i absolutely accept the representation. You gave this not a team. That has a lot of a lot of bench. What he you page go to you. Well we've got a panel is im- good. But she was wrong about exactly what's going on here. It's it's a con- you're saying. It's a colin but bill is absolutely right when you get to that emotional high when you to that pinnacle if that was a championship game you can rest on that for the rest of the year but you gotta get yourself back up again and do that one more time. I think it's going to be very difficult. We're going to see that early in the game that they're not emotionally into it like they were on saturday. No woody page guarantee baylor's road here. That wasn't easy either. They earned every bit of it though without the covid stop. Maybe they're coming undefeated trying to put a perfect season on the line here so tonight. What's the number one thing that decides this game. Though for the national title zagging needs to get the ball and working through timmy. They average fifty points in the paint this year. The most bang team in fifteen years baylor can stop that baylor can squeeze in the head off that with five grade guards of five great defensive guards baylor stops them from getting the ball inside. Page the number one thing that decides the national championship. You have to go with me here. Tony i think it's the ark of the covenant that means agreement that means importance that's exactly what we're to see you've got one team in baylor that is number one in the country in three point shooting. The arc said you've got the other team gone saga this number one in the country in two point shooting sixty four percent so if you do the mathematics there you'll see that if you continue do have success at the rate year having as baylor does with a three pointer. That's going to be more than the two pointer. That bill was talking about working at through timmy. Where's the covenant. Where's the covenant part of that. Woody what are you talking about. Where's a covenant. He was on a roll. So i let it go go ahead. Monika mcnutt what decides game. I called my little brother baylor allom and espn college basketball analyst king mcclure got your name and king you. He said that this game is gonna come down to baylor's guards look what. Ucla guards able to and baylor's guards are better. Okay pretty simple. Thank you for that information. Now we'll give points to king mccord random monica mcnutt. That'd be okay from the king of the tour. how about you i dislike. How would he threw out ark of the covenant there and basically had the thing where like all of our skin melts off. Because that's the heat of that. I have no idea where still recovering from it. I will just point this out. Corey kiss tony is a guy who is on fire himself. Use a lottery pick gonzaga. He's never mentioned that. Guy decides depict pablo tori. Who you got tonight. Give me the zags daily page. Good news bears laskey sick and bears and we move on and now we talk about the other shot. There's just not enough time in the world for all these incredible basketball roll the ball. He's decided to. And it's a brutally tough shot stanford knew how to play defense on arizona all year and on area. Mcdonald's all year the triple team she did get it off monica. Is that the shot. You want to take the title. Let's start there. I guess it's only. It was the best performer for arizona. She's obviously only person. I could score consistently. It's a tough shot. i get it. But she's the player that has to take it and has to have the ball in that moment laboratory. Yeah you can't second guess that just because the circumstances at the end of the game she made five twenty one but she's the reason you got there and that shot hit back iron tony. It was insanely difficult but it also wasn't a horrible one go paschke basketball is still a team sport. There were two players under a team wide open on the wings. She should found one of them. Everybody everybody knew everybody knew she was getting a ball. Everybody watching a game everybody in the country new. She's getting the ball. Pass it off your teammates. Give them a chance to win back to monica. But i would-i page. Is that the shot you take did arizona. Draw up right national title on the line. No she had been going to the free throw. What you do is take the ball out of bounds. Didn't get it right back on a pick and then you can go to the basket and go back to the free. Throw line where you just made three in a row guys. We've given the code offensive player of the year. She was guarding airy straight up the ball. How anna nevertheless open seconds. She couldn't make a camera six six five eight. She could see the shot. That's my best that window you don't you don't back moment nine from three. You're the flavor thousands of lives stanford which we will talk about next this incredible shape each summer. Saying there's an expert on it. It's a good almost stanford to put a bookmark in now and take a look at our tournament bracket challenge final. Sarah space. how are we year to collect your wedding everybody else. Bill plas her behalf to monica dr tonight. Jackie mac takes the title failure. And it'll be paid we'll be back with buyers. Hi there this is julie foudy with my co host lentils from the podcast laughter permitted. And we're here to tell you about our sponsor ally. Len and i are actually customers ourselves. And that's why we're pumped to have teamed up with ally from the very beginning in jules. It's safe to say that you and i love working together but we also enjoy having some fun together indeed so we started thinking about how we can make our money. Do the work while we play. In fact there is no reason to go to a bank in twenty twenty. There is a smarter way. It's online anytime anywhere ally also. 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Four and i would suggest you do. I would include arizona and i suggest you do and how. They fought all tournament long and dea barges pep talks but there could be a thirty for thirty on how stanford conquered everything. They had thrown at them this year. Tara vanderveer goes twenty nine years and gets her third title and she was the one that said and after is on the season is only a positive thing on how hard it was. So what is this championship. Stanford bill gonna start with an anecdote from michelle. Bullets columbine espn power boundary. Received six hundred text after winning the game. Yesterday the last championship. She receives zero texts. Because there was no texting in nineteen ninety-two that's okay stanford stamford resilience overwhelming. To way they th. They basically the season in a bubble come out in the way eleven and nothing second chance points. Forty seven hundred thousand nine rebounds. They stood stood tall when they had to stand tall. Memorable win you know. I'm gonna give those points shell than not ugo plachy. Bill h stanford's championship here. Things i will say the cardinal playing in the bubble bill that you talked about for six weeks away from campus playing nothing but road games. I mean think about that in terms of any other sport. That's been played during the pandemic to overcome that and to have a coach who now has to be considered in the same sentence as gino and pat summitt. I think it's an incredible monumental accomplishment. What i mean grit is the only word that can come up with. I know how cranky. I get being on the road for eight days. I can't imagine doing it for eighty six as a team and expected to perform at an elite level. So i definitely agree with. It's a positive aspect. This team came together incredibly and you can tell that they genuinely enjoy one another because man stuck like that you're gonna find we think we can say now. After five shows monica we enjoyed generally you. But that was banned words time to that public story on stanford championship. Tara vanderveer. tony one twenty nine years between your second and third titles for from writers that we liked cup chuck colpepper pointed out the post. That's twenty nine years. Meryl streep went between her second and third oscars. I think there are some similarities. There who has been underrated deserves prestige. But we don't give it until it's too late and i think stanford's surviving the tournament and being the betting favourite through so much of it summarises kind of this is. They're so good for tournament. That started with the ncaa forgetting the weight room and the march madness refuse to be on the courts and not having photographers and basically doing everything to rain on their own product remember. The childcare was an issue going into this tournament and at halftime of the national title. Game at the barnes was delayed slightly because she was feeding her baby. So how should this tournament be remembered. Monica as a positive in the end you believe the optimism that this game is growing. I do and in fact. When i think of this tournament i will always think of arizona. Was this close to join four couple of reasons. Arizona has never been to a final four let alone a championship game and overall it speaks to the growth of the women's game. Arkansas was it three c. Got upset by university that most people hadn't seen so in general. I think the women didn't incredible job performing and it speaks to the growth of the women's game and the power including pointing out those despite. What would you say. Zeke tipping point tournament from the level play and the excitement of the games and also how the ncaa was called out three weeks ago. Yes pablo tori you it feels like an inflection point. Tony not just because the attention seems to be surging because this is a sport that has succeeded in spite of the leadership at the very very top. This was a triumph. Despite the fact that they're not getting equal resources investment and attention and the fact that it has been this good game for game. It shows you that. It's more than just a yukon. There is so much more get started with a courageous video by by sedona. Prince of oregon. It continued. there's more eyeballs more. Buzz undetermined any tournament. I can remember the great games. Great moments people were people were watching. We're we're discussing and we have a bracket on around the horn for women's basketball. It's come a long way. it's only up forty page. I think it was about women's power showing it at the beginning of the tournament. Speaking out enjoying exactly what should be done. And it was power at the and when we saw great talent. Great singular talent. And i think even though i don't know what the writings were more is road this tournament. I think it really is not only women but for everybody. We will get the ratings. The last game probably tomorrow with the readings were of course up over over the last couple of games alley. Kirshner also the strength coach of stanford along with prince the first to report. The discrepancy is the weight rooms and everything. Now she gets a title monica cory. Thanks for joining us today. Bill you pays showdown old style. Hi there this. Is julie foudy host of the podcast laughter permitted. And i'm here to tell you about our sponsor ally first of all if you're still stuffing financial documents into a filing cabinet. I am here to save you or perhaps you're still waiting in line at a bank. There's a smarter way. My friends do your banking online with ally anytime anywhere. The name is the mission. Ally is your financial ally. Let them make your money. Work smarter while you get to play which for me means more time to surf and hang with my sometimes. Adorable kids visit a. L. l. y. Dot com slash savings to learn more ally bank member. 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March Madness Picks and Predictions + NCAA Tournament Betting Advice and Bracket Tips

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March Madness Picks and Predictions + NCAA Tournament Betting Advice and Bracket Tips

"Along that thou board with those bet. You twenty bucks. I can get. You can't with forty illnesses grand. How they pay debts men his manny. It's the board podcast. Originally the end right back where i could still pick winners. I for all kinds of people back home. And why mess up a good thing. Airs pain insider and todd. Welcome into the the board podcast powered by fans sportsbook. Ncaa tournament edition. I'm your host todd. Berman joined as always by my colleague and co host. A man whose voice i know. We've all missed over the last four or five weeks of the one. The only pain insider. I think this is the first time we've actually communicated via speaking. So is this pain. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. And i think by the time football. Season's over you need a break for me as much as i need a break from you. In terms of hearing each other's dulcet tones over the phone. Who would need a break for me. You did go on vacation. And i felt really bad because i was like. I'm just gonna leave this guy alone but you were texting me more than i was texting. You'll your vacation. Well i mean you gotta stay in touch. You gotta make sure you keep your fingers on the pulse of everything going on but you have took a few days. Went to the hawaiian islands may or may not have been detained in an airport on monday because we didn't have negative cova test. That was required. So that provided a little unique wrinkle. But it's not as though you've stayed quarantine in miami. I'm sure you've been out there. Hobnobbing with all the big shots. I will say this the over under on one minute for the word cova being used you just. You just failed miserably there. Well i had the prophet myself. So i was trying to take it in my favour. Gotcha no i'm just just relaxing. That's it relaxing just relaxing as well off until we get into the cram session that became the preparation for the ncaa tournament edition for all those that are new listeners. To our bet the board three part series will have a episode. Obviously here for the round of sixty four. They'll take into the second weekend. We'll be back with you next week for the sweet sixteen and of course. The final podcast. It'll showcase the final four but before games tip off with the first for later on on thursday. Encourage all of you. Fangio dot com backslash. Bet the board take advantage of all the risk free bets. They're spread the love campaign. We all could use an extra out this time of year. Great future prices and plenty of ways to get some skin in the game during the big dance and paying a little bit. Uncharted territory obviously. With a slight modification format will have all four playing games taking place on thursday. A wraparound weekend of sorts friday and saturday of course being the opening round and then sunday and monday being the round of thirty two and when it comes to filling out your bracket since folks have an extra twenty four hours. I think it's always important just to get a quick take. You may approach it and how different it is. Obviously than when you're handicapping individual games forecasting two and a half three weeks in advance. First of all do like this new schedule. I do not because i'm a creature of habit. So anytime you throw a wrench into something. We've grown accustomed to all hell breaks loose. Yeah the wrap around. Monday is interesting and it's not like the games are starting like super ohio. I just i like the old format better but hey at least. We have march madness. At least we're able to fill out some brackets. And i think we talk about this but we'll have new listeners. When it comes to filling out your bracket your entire plan should be based upon the size of your pool and it's really simple as that smaller the pool the smaller variants. You want if it's a pool with literally like your family and a couple buddies less various you're going to be advancing the favorites most of the way. But if you're doing office pool with like a couple of hundred people or one online with with tens of thousands it's near impossible to go chok and win and your goal. Obviously come in the money right like not finished thirty first and be like hey showed pretty well here. So i if you're in a larger pool you're gonna want more variance especially if you get additional points for upsets you know you wanna take some of those calculated shots if you're able to get points based upon what the seed numbers so that's just how i would go about it specific to the tournament this year. I think we might be able to lean on things being a little bit wilder. You know we. We saw this already to some extent. Right with professional athletes having issues in the bubble. We had your milwaukee and the clippers get bounced early. We had a miami heat team. That's struggling to be in the playoffs this year in the finals last year and we just saw teams like georgetown who was like nine and twelve win. Four games in four days the last three against teams that were all top fifty so larger pool especially in year like this. You're want to have some various to your bracket. Yeah i think it's one of those things it like. You always say survivor pools. Do you want to be an advanced week to week. Where do you want to set yourself up with a chance to win. And it's no knock because there's a very good chance that gonzaga baylor six to one illinois at six to one or michigan at eight to one could go out there and cut down the nets. But if you're in a pool pain like i am based in chicago where almost everyone is a big ten alum and an illinois fan makes things a little bit more difficult if you want to try and mirror the field if you want to go out there and ultimately winding so as payne said it's so important to understand the rules. The scoring system and geography plays such a big role as well in terms of how you want to go filling that out but never let that impact some of your day to day wagers and clearly opinions current form and everything else can change by the time you get into the second weekend and ultimately the third weekend absolutely i think it also varies like region to region. Right and we'll we'll get into it a little bit deeper but you know the east region might be the region where you know you wanna have a little bit more of that variance as opposed to the west region. Just my thoughts but something to consider right when we're talking about variances kind of looking at how this might play out. You know you see a gonzaga team who probably as the easiest draw. And there's a couple teams in their dealing with covid and iowa's ceiling is probably not as high as other teams despite being really good and you get to the east and it's like to me a complete crap. Shoot so you know figuring out where you want to have a little bit more variance in your bracket i think is as big as well. Well as we go down that path before we get into the individual regions and for those folks that are expecting us to break down every single first round game. We love all of you but you're absolutely delusional so that won't be happening by any stretch of the imagination. We'll talk about a lot of the top seeds. We find a match up in each region and some other unique handicapping tidbits that you can use along the way and i think one of the more compelling places to always start paying and the committee to their credit has gotten better over the years as they use more of the advanced metrics and some tools that we don't have some of those glaring inconsistencies from odd standpoint to tease being overseas or under seated but inevitably. There's always a couple teams that will fall into each bucket. When you look at teams in your opinion that were overstated based on some your numbers who jumps out to you. i think. The biggest ones wichita state. I don't even know how they're in the dance as an at large. That was surprised. He's offering gregg. Marshall is down there the ninth best conference by our ratings and you downgraded substantially head coach. Take off season. As you mentioned gregg. Marshall i mean x.'s and o.'s wise marshals one of the best so to lose him. That's pretty tough. And then you just look metrically. 'cause i know you said that you think the community uses those a little bit more. Now i think they just created their own call them quadrants but hey well hey there you think more now is better than none. They used to use in previous years. So when you go from zero to one. It's a monumentally floored. Yes so. I mean just when i look at wichita state they. They play like a snail yet. They don't really defend an elite level. I mean that is a tough combination. Right if you're not bringing energy like getting up the court and getting easy basket you better be able to defend in. And they haven't so. When i look at wichita state the last ten seasons they finished twenty sixth or better in defensive efficiency seven times last season under gregg marshall which does state was eighth in defensive efficiency the season again in twenty twenty one. You're playing outside the top two hundred and pace but you're also outside the top one hundred defensive efficiency. I don't know how that's possible. But i mean that's that's the situation with wichita state their undersized. They're outside the top three hundred and both defensive rebounding in two point field goal defence Like they just. They don't make the free throws they don't turn teams over. Todd we have them powerade outside the top one hundred so i don't know how they got that large bit. Yes i mean it just makes it does make you wonder when you look at some of the other teams that were passed over. That were on the bubble. Saint louis didn't do themselves any favors in the atlantic ten conference tournament. You look at louisville the sixty ninth team. I guess the way the committee set it off colorado state and i've watched them enough. I don't care if they're in the tournament and then of course ole miss who on their best day deathly looked like a tournament team I would agree that. I think wichita state you know somehow by hook or by karuk was able to get themselves in and as part of the reason that you've seen nearly four point move Against drake in the first four matchup drake is is very sharp. Let's just put it that way That has been one of the larger positions by the groups that i've seen so far. How about you. Anything that stands out to you in terms of overseas team. You know for me. It always goes down to some of those teams on the power seed lines and i guess a team that i'll openly admit i've struggled with all season long has been the kansas jayhawks. I know they played a lot better down the stretch. They got their season defining win when they upset baylor At allen fieldhouse late in the campaign. But i was a little bit surprised to see them on the three seed line. I know the big twelve probably powerade the second best league behind the big ten but at the same time i thought kansas was kinda stepped down but it looks like the entire league was given the benefit of the doubt west virginia a couple of close losses down the stretch but i thought candace was a step down so to see them as three seed not surprising given the pedigree but their overall body of work for me didn't quite warrant it. We'll get to kansas moving forward. But i completely agree. There were more of like a five or six seed for us. So it's just one of those things that's always difficult to try and figure out With some of the boys hailing from the bigger leagues. And i think the sec. To be quite honest is a league strugglers from curious to get your take when we get into a couple of the higher profile teams there an expectations for deep runs whether it be with alabama arkansas but with overseas teams paying there obviously sides that are under seated so in terms of power. Number's who is under seated in your european loyalist. Chicago's the obvious one right. The committee did a horrific job in the ramblers and depending on our filters loyal chicago somewhere between the seventh and thirteenth esteem in the entire country. And somehow the committee has them in eight seed forced to potentially play big brother in the second round. But i i. I feel like that's a little bit. You know obvious. If i'm just looking at pure seating nothing else not the match up around one or an ability to make noise in the tournament and be cinderella just simply where we rank them versus where the committee seated them probably colgate colgate to me is atop thirty team. They are more like a five or six seed not a fourteen. You have the three key. Cogs in burns richardson in ferguson. They've played on this stage right. They took number two tennessee to the brink in the two thousand nineteen tournament. And i think you take this with a grain of salt because it was just a fifteen game season for goal gate and they didn't play games out of conference but in an analytically driven game gates the only team in this tournament that ranks top three in both offensive and defensive. Three point efficiency. And i think there's some other guys out there that you know provide some numbers Delve into the analytics and coal gates ninth in net so again like strictly looking at the number of the committee placed in front of their name. Colgate is is wildly under understated now. Really tough match-up around one against arkansas. Right that that's a team. That's like long athletic defends the three ball. Well i'm not sure coal gates style of like trying to get up and down. The court launched threes will work overly well against a bigger stronger. Faster more athletic razorbacks team that also wants to get up and out. Riley arkansas's top ten in adjusted temple. I'm not sure you wanna play a game against arkansas and be like. Hey let's raise them to eighty five and see who wins right but again strictly. The number in front of the school name colgate is really understand it. Yeah not gonna lie. Would've loved to see colgate. Actually slipped down at fifteenth seed. Line and draw team like iowa. I think that would create a very compelling matchup not necessarily luca garza but it'd be one of the rare higher profile opponents were colgate might actually be slightly more athletic. Garza may put up thirty and thirty there. Oh put some thirty and thirty against everybody. He may put a thirty thirty against grand canyon. It's still not be enough to cover a fifteen point favorite for me. Pain the one league and we talked about all the time i know west coast basketball is soft. I felt like the pac twelve. Didn't get any credit. I actually think this is true of pac twelve teams that are in the tournament. I'm not counting. Ucla because they tailed off towards the end of the season. So the three teams in that five six seven nine colorado usc and oregon. I felt all three of those teams were discounted a bit now. I may be eating crow. 'cause you send me tech saturday by noon when all three are eliminated from the tournament but at the same time i felt like the level of play in this league was better than we've seen in years past and at least one of those teams is capable of getting into the second weekend and maybe rican a little bit of havoc. I don't disagree. I think we've already seen that colorado's a little bit undervalued in the market there now out to a six point favorite as of this morning. You're never gonna half to twist my arm on a dana team. I think oregon has the potential to make some noise. It's an interesting matchup. They're potentially against iowa and usc you may hear about them a little bit later in the show because we're doing a segment where we are taking a team outside the top five in each region and maybe showing a potential to make a little noise in usc might be there for me. I think they probably have the best player on the court pretty much any night. They step on. So i'm kind of in lockstep with you. There on the pac twelve might be the nicest thing you've said about that entire league and six years of doing college football or college basketball podcast. We're going take the win. We're going to close up shop fifty minutes in and out podcast over right. That's how do things big people on the left coast would appreciate that. Yeah we'll see we'll see you. We have our. Let's get into these regions and we'll start for those folks that have their brackets out in front of them. From what is it left to right up down either way. We're starting in the west with an overwhelming favourite to get to the final four and that of course being the tournament's number one overall seed and gonzaga whose listed as a two dollar and sixty cents favourite fan duel sportsbook. There filed by iowa at four. Two one win the region. Kansas ten to one creighton virginia twelve oregon twenty s twenty and so on down the board so when we look at zag pain twenty-six in oh so far this season we know about some of their scoring options that they have guys that can flat out philadelphia. Core casper drew timmy. And jalen suggs non-conference wise. The biggest wins came. Oddly enough against three teams that they could encounter in this bracket in one way shape or form. Kansas west virginia iowa and virginia west virginia. The only team to play gonzaga to single digits this year but the biggest question mark i have watching zag and i watched a little bit of the west coast conference tournament to get an indication as well. They don't feel to be as physical on the interior and you wonder about that. Lack of physical presence will ultimately be their undoing. Or can they be the first team since one thousand nine hundred. Seventy six indiana hoosiers to run the table. Go undefeated finished thirty to cut down the nets. Was i think. Everyone's looking for a reason. To fade. Gonzaga be contrarian right like fade the undefeated number one overall seed. That won't play a game on the west coast. And then as you mentioned they have a little bit of that added pressure of running the table and they haven't played the best competition this season outside the top one hundred and strength of schedule and what we have is the eighth best conference so they're not really battle-tested and gonzaga didn't perform overly well away from home. Either when you look at expectations metrically. So i think those are pretty much. The reason you'll hear about fading gonzaga and i will tell you. You mentioned there. Region price of minus two sixty smoked it open minus two hundred. So i think that says a lot. And i'm not saying like zags won't slip up and stub their toe somewhere along the line here but this is a really favourable. Region draw like in zog has already played in beaten iowa who has athletic deficiencies by double digits on a neutral. They've beaten three seed. Kansas by double digits on neutral enforcing virginia by more than three touchdowns. Kansas in virginia are dealing with cove issues. I mentioned at the top right. Kansas feels more like a four or five seed based on the metrics virginia struggled down the stretch their outside the top three hundred and momentum. It just feels like the best team got a really nice. Draw your yeah and we talk about every year. Gonzaga seems to get shafted. This season. they've been given a favorable path to try and at least get to the final four and have a chance to win their first national championship in program history. So we'll talk more about zags. I'd imagine as we get into the round of sixteen. I i'd be stunned paint. If they law says he number one seed in that sixteen matchup even in the eight nine game against the winner of oklahoma missouri. When you talk about teams that are dealing with some covert stuff you mentioned the iowa hawkeyes and the lack of athleticism for this team but they do have luca garza national player of the year. Joe camp more than capable bombing from deep paired with georgia bohannon. They had a little bit of lack of depth. Do have a depth concern in my opinion when you lose jack noon average about sixteen minutes per game and up in advance. We're going to butcher lot of these names. Or at least i will so for you guys want to fill up my mentions. Knock yourself out When it comes down to it. But when i look at this iowa team pain for as well as they play down the stretch. They do have a couple of bad losses during the season. When you get swept by the hoosiers not a ringing endorsement. but to fran mccaffrey's credit. The team started to defend with a little bit more tenacity over the last five six games. The reggie's no doubt about it but they're calling card is offense and just shoot piss of at number two on offense of efficiency hundred twenty points per one hundred possessions. They knocked down threes. They can shoot the mid range and you know you have luca garza deal with the post. But i mentioned this right sometimes. Iowa can be out athlete by elite teams. There one in five against our top ten this season. They're just inside the top fifty defensive efficiency. They're not the best perimeter defenders because of you the athleticism deficiency and they're outside the top twenty five and defending three ball. They are outside the top. Three hundred in creating turnovers so it does make me a little bit nervous right and you're talking about a team. That does have luca garza download their outside the top two hundred and defensive rebound so you it all up and it's just like this inability to turn teams over and rebound the ball defensively. It makes a little bit nervous. I was the eighth worst team in the country and opponent shot attempt rate so they're allowing their opponents to get up a tunnel looks and you just can't give good teams that many shot attempts. Now don't get me wrong. I think i was really good. And you mentioned this perfectly. The intensity and effort defensively has been there late. This was an iot and those outside the top one hundred and defensive efficiency at one point this season and they've gotten it down to fifty but it just feels like their ceiling is a little bit lower compared to the other elite teams in this tournament can't argue that and i'm gonna be fascinated honestly to see how iowa handles the twin towers that grand canyon will throw at them that to fifteen matchup obviously bryce jerus- team not gonna be nearly as athletic or have the same perimeter capabilities at the hawkeyes possessed in a game where you could see limited possessions. We'll see if they can frustrate luka garza us the ten plus balls to try and hacked the big man inside maybe keep that game a little bit closer if the tempo should play in the antelopes favor. We look at the kansas jayhawks pain. They closed the season. Eight and one. Their loan loss overtime defeat against texas. Of course a no contest for them in the big twelve conference tournament because if covert issues best win in that mix Aforementioned against baylor at lawrence a game they dominated as a four and a half five point underdog. Finish the year top ten in defensive efficiency they force opponents to work for everything at that into the court but unlike previous kansas editions. This team at least to me seems extremely limited in some of their offensive capabilities. No question and we know they're dealing with a couple covert issues. David mccormick the most notable of the players is has been impacted. Bill self admitted like they're not going to indianapolis with full group. So i have no idea what kansas says. They did. Come on down the stretch plane with some good momentum. It feels like to me that you know. Bill self doesn't get a ton of credit from a lot of the analytic guys as being a great coach but he always seems to have his team playing pretty well down. The stretch in in those guys have started to buy in now. The offense as you alluded to is the gillies hill. The ranked fifty ninth in offense efficiency. And if you look at kansas the efficiency data goes all the way back to two thousand and two. This is the worst kansas offense over that. Stretch okay this team makes it on defense. They allow eighty seven points per one hundred possessions. They're good defending shots from all three areas deep mid range and at the hoop they do a good job defending without fouling. So they're not sending teams to the free throw line all that much game freebies. I mentioned this already right. Kansas is more of like a five seed than a three. If somehow they can get healthy. You get hot from the floor and hit a few shots in their defense remains. Top five efficiency maybe. Kansas can make a run but they struggle too much offensively for my liking when you look at the top teams in the west pain. Who in your opinion provides the biggest match threat gonzaga team seated five or lower that we think could be a little bit of a dark horse. Slashing torello there is one. And that's why i kind of alluded to the fact that everyone is out here trying to slay the giant and they have all. This added pressure on their shoulders. But as you mentioned you saw the west region that israel professional money laying the two dollars and that's why it's out to to sixty. Maybe you get to iowa if iowa can make it that far but that'll be a really interesting matchup somehow. Usc in their big man against luca. Garza that that's an interesting matchup. But maybe it's iowa i don't know i just don't know if that's the right match up to beat gonzaga but to me. Gonzaga has a walk to the final four year. I really believe that. And we're not getting off the gonzaga trained. Now i mean. What was the one future sent you before the season begins aga- and they were running over men. Women and children about the dogs of prices tend to wonder better. Yeah it started thirteen. Went to eleven and still taking ten to one. So this is a team that we've liked from the onset. And i just think they're this is probably the best iteration of gonzaga and they have a really favourable draw. Well that's been my contention that if gonzaga can't win a national championship this year with the current population of talent. It may never happen for mark few to bring that title back to spokane but as far as the top seed we hit on all of them will get to the four in a little bit for their fascinating match up against ohio for some things not basketball related but when you look for other teams. You mentioned pain. This'll be their first. Nca tournament appearance since two thousand seventeen. The third tournament appearance under head coach. Andy enfield who took over back in two thousand thirteen. They have an nba caliber talent. That's going to go in the top. Five arguably inevitably can usc team to make that deep. Cinderella like run. Yeah i think this is the one team. That makes sense because todd and i kinda just put together what we wanna do for these regions to make a little bit more interesting. We'll talk about the top teams. We'll talk about a team outside the top five. That can make some noise. And then we'll break down one of the more intriguing match-ups within that region for the first round but to me it's it's. Usc dangled this right. And i initially debated in tried getting cute with ohio. They got a great point guard. They gave a run earlier in the season. So i think everyone's kind of gravitating towards ohio. But they can't spell defense. Ucsb seems to be another trend dog but they could have a starter out against creighton ultimately. I think usc because you know their size is going to be far too much. Drake and i've mentioned numerous times in kansas overseas. They're dealing with covert no reason. Usc can't sneak into the sweet sixteen here. You mentioned evan mobile. It's going to be the best player on the floor pretty much any time. Usc is is playing a game. We know andy. Field's tournament pedigree. You can't debate that you have tajdidi inefficient guard. That gives you a nice little inside out game. And when you look at the trojans they average one hundred ten points per one hundred possessions even though they're not the most efficient offense they make a ton of their near proximity shots almost sixty five percent of them. You know. they're good enough from three. They're fantastic for mid range. But i the key is making the free throws. Usc does a fantastic job getting to line. There's three hundred twenty six in the country and free throw percent if you can somehow shoot in the low to mid seventy s from the free throw line. There's no reason. Usc can't make a sweet sixteen run known. The defense is their calling card going to be interesting to watch his trojans team. I mean they struggled when they had a step class olympic bit colorado kind of had their number in league play but other than that kind of exceeded expectations and because a lot of people. Don't watch a ton of west coast basketball. They flown under the radar. I think they'll have a favorable matchup regardless of who emerges offering the plane. Game between drake and wichita state to help the trojans get into the round of thirty two setting up. What could be one of the more intriguing games against the kansas jayhawks. Told we didn't talk about the four seat early on you mentioned ohio and some of their lack of defense. This has been one of the bigger movers. Pain of the opening round. We saw virginia open as much as ten and a half point favorite. Of course cova issues have precluded them from traveling on a normal schedule or not quite here who may or may not be available for virginia. This number is all the way down to seven before it took a little bit of money on the favourite. When you look at this. Virginia team not as good for a pack line. Defense standpoint is what we've seen in the past. They lack that big interior presence in the mold of a mama de aqui. Take but they can score the ball a little bit. Better led by sam. How however ohio on the other side. We can make the case and i don't think it's a reached by any stretch of the imagination. They're going to have the most dynamic playmaker in the form of talented guard. Jason preston you mentioned the four point move and aside from virginia's entire team being in contact tracing we're still trying to figure out which player players might not make the round one trip at all. Virginia's not even practicing their players come off quarantine today. They don't travel to indian until friday. So there's been virtually no live ball work for virginia for like nine full days. That's a factor and we have seen ohio play to this level. Before i mentioned this early they went into illinois late november and took illinois to the brink lost by two. Virginia's played ohio's conference phone. Ken stayed at home and needed overtime to win. Despite can state only tempting six free throws and shooting nine for thirty two from three so this isn't a spot where like ohio is going to be overwhelmed. And when you play at the pace. Virginia does with the style they employ. Your opponents are rarely ever out of it. So that's why we saw the number grab at ten and a half eleven because the true line probably is somewhere where it sits now and you have all the cova questions now for high wants to stay within this number. Their offense has to be as good as advertised especially in the half court. Ohio's a top thirty offense that shoots the three ball pretty well. they've six players nationally ranked offensive rating. The team averaged one hundred and eight points per hundred possessions. So i think they're more than capable scoring right especially inside. They do a pretty good job there. Sixty three percent on short distance shots but They're not gonna get anything cheap on virginia in transition. There's not going to have you know not going to be many second chance opportunities. Ohio has to run. Good half court offense here but i think if they actually wanna pull off the upset which seems to be with a lot of people are calling for. They need to be better on the other side of the floor. They need to be better. Defensively i mean i. It's pretty ugly. And maybe that comes with some rust. From virginia's offense or key cog or to being out but ohio has to be better defensively. They've struggled to defend three ball. They're outside the top one sixty there. They also have issues defending the paint while know. I'm looking right now. They struggle to provide resistance at the rim. They only blocked five percent of rim shots. Average opponents are converting sixty four percent of their near proximity. Shots you'll virginia. I mean that's kind of where they clean up right. Sixty five percent Near proximity shot right jay. Huff got to watch the syracuse game on my flight in like j hoffa seems like he is just coming of age. He's been pretty dominant down low so he could have a field day and so. I think you know. Virginia has a real advantage on this end of the court. Let's see if they're a little rusty. I don't know. But i mean they are. They are slow and they keep teams in the game. Slows d one team in the country. Virginia's and so if the efficiency in christmas isn't quite there than maybe you could see ohio. Hang around here so very interesting game for me. This is more like a six point. Eight seven point one range in terms of the number so again it made total sense getting out and taking the eleven the ten and a half the ten and honestly we did see. This tick backup. There's a couple eights that popped late last night. By the time i woke up eight was gonna get so. It'll be interesting to see. Ultimately what unfolds with who's potentially out for virginia doesn't make the trip and again this is what we always talk about it. Maybe a different sport but the rules of thumb. Stay the same. If you're taking eleven handicap is significantly different than if you're taking seven At the bottom of the market especially with falls late game situations in everything else. It's there if you happen to miss the number guys. Do not run to the window to chase some of the steam. That may be there. You can take advantage of the live numbers and who knows you may watch. The first four minutes virginia could come out white high and you could see conditioning. Play a role or something else along those lines so the app and missed the number early on side. You like be patient. Fan offers plenty of great opportunities from live betting standpoint from the west pain. Let's head east were michigan. Is the number one overall seed in that region. And when you look at the current prices at faneuil sportsbook the wolverines plus one ninety to win the region there followed by alabama at four to one texas five and a half to one your beloved florida state. Seminoles at seven one yukon. Huskies twelve to one colorado. Seventeen one along with lsu and everybody else at prices of two one or greater when you look at the four number one overall seeds. I don't think it's a reach by any stretch of the imagination to say that michigan might be the most vulnerable not just because of the injury isaiah livers who thirty one. Plus minutes per game was first on the team points per game second. Thirteen and his rebounds per game six placed in third. But because one of the opponent's that they may face could be a lsu in the second round. They could have their hands full. But when you look at the michigan wolverines i have to give juwan howard a ton of credit. I did not expect it this season. They were one hundred twenty five to win the national championship and regardless of how they play during the month of march this has to be considered a successful campaign in arbor without question. I think the ceo pro ch let you on handle recruiting. He brought on some really good coaches to handle the xs and os stuff. And i think that's potentially what we undervalued is who he brought on his staff to handle the day to day workings of the scheme. Because we weren't quite sure juwan could do that and sure enough. He was cognizant that that was probably his weakness that he needed to hire some. Great schematic coaches. And just. Let him be the ceo. Go out there and recruit and be the face in. This is where michigan is now. I know it might be overkill for some of our listeners. Hearing about isaiah levers but you mentioned it because it is important and the metrics and the record aren't great without him on the floor if you look at the last two seasons when livers plays michigan's offense flirts with being one of the ten most efficient offenses without livers. You're looking at an offense outside the top twenty five points per one hundred possessions record wise. The last two seasons michigan's thirty three and nine with livers. Just six in seven without him. Now i will say this for michigan fans. Don't jump off a cliff. It would feel like they're better adapting to life without livers this season than they would have been last season but still blow your still losing a players. You looted to that plays the most minutes. He's got an efficiency rank of twenty one so he's -nificant better than average player. The slight difference though this season the versus last was that livers was the only mishkin player on the court for over fifty percent of the minutes and had an offensive rating above one hundred ten. This season michigan has five other players that fit the criteria of playing fifty percent or more minutes with an offensive rating of one hundred. Ten or better so. This isn't quite the death blow. It was a season for michigan. But this still feels like a team that has a chance to make the sweet sixteen but you do wonder like what their ceiling is without livers because despite being top ten in both offensive and defensive efficiency. There's there's some times where we're michigan isn't overly consistent and they've struggled on the road compared to expectation. And you mentioned if lsu can maybe somehow figure out how to beat saint bonaventure and they start to take better shots and focus more on the defensive end. Those are big. Fs another massive leaps of faith. But they're so talented that if they improve their shot selection lsu and if they decide to defend a little bit better which they have when they switched to man they have the talent to certainly make a final four run. But we'll see. I don't know if this is again. The death blow that it would have been a year ago for michigan without isaiah leverage a credit to what the wolverines have done over upgrade their overall offensive talent hunter dickinson has been a solid into your presence. You've seen friends. Wagner contribute quite nicely from the outside and we'll see if the wolverines can as you said exceed expectations if livers is on the shelf for a little bit longer than we all anticipate the number two seed in the region. Lsu's archrival at least on the football field the alabama crimson tide winners of six straight nine of ten down. The stretch outlasted lsu in the sec conference championship game. Team has struggled all season pain controlling the defensive glass biggest weakness in my opinion for them is that they lack a true rim-protector small but to nato teams credit. They'd been more than proficient from beyond the arc attempted more threes than any team in the tournament. They've made more threes than a team in the tournament. The two seat on match the highest in school history they also achieved from nineteen eighty seven and back in two thousand and two pain. The most interesting part about this. The first sec tournament title for alabama last week in came since nineteen ninety one when they were led by robert. Orien- latrell sprewell. What can the alabama crimson tide doing the hardwoods. This march our beloved spree. Well spree baby. I think i got his jersey hanging in my closet. Amanda train dusted off of this Team all right. listen. I wanna look alabama. You mentioned some great things about them. It's clear nato tes has immediately transformed alabama in the one thing that you also have to like. Is there battle-tested this year. We have them facing the twelfth tough schedule in college. Basketball there dominant on the defensive end number. Two in efficiency on that side of the court overall allow eighty six points per one hundred possessions their guards or quick their long athletic the close out in the three point line top ten in the country and defending the deep ball. They block eleven percent of rim shots now. Their offense is a bit ragtag right. They want to run run. Run and run more top ten and adjusted pace. Almost forty one percent of alabama shots come in transition. They wanna turn you over their sixth in points off steals like to crash the offensive glass and score off second chance opportunities so the way to beat alabama's not turning it over forcing them to score in the half court. It's possible a team like you gone. That's three hundred. And i in the country and adjusted tempo. With wants to play in the half court might be a team that could annoy alabama if they're able to survive maryland in the first round. So that's something to look for. But i mean you have to like what nato is doing. Alabama is super athletic. But if you can get them in the half court forced them to shoot jump shots. You have a chance if not. They're going to run out of the building municipal alabama team that we've seen on their absolute best emmer make it rain against lsu. During the regular season. I feel that game was thirty. Two three or something ridiculous. The first five minutes of the game when everything was falling. But we've also seen them in games against teams like oklahoma where you go on the road. can't make shot and you don't have that secondary pitch if your fastball isn't working the texas longhorns third seed in this region pain extremely versatile and athletic they go with regard lineup with jones coleman and ramey and they have a couple a talented bigs albeit inexperienced greg brown and jericho sims shock a smart he may be the one beneficiary and all of college basketball to benefit from the pandemic. Because there's a very good chance that he would have lost his job. Last season in texas did make the tournament instead. He kept the core together and we saw them cut down the nets for their first conference tournament championship in quite some time. But when you look at chaka the last four round of sixty four games well hasn't been kind one. He watches texas. Longhorns team blow a massive lead against nevada in the opening round again. That i hate to admit i was on the texas longhorns. Two thousand sixteen. We saw texas lose on a half court shot against northern iowa and even his last two campaigns with vcu in two thousand fourteen two thousand fifteen. He came up on the wrong end of things they'll take on abilene christian early on but when you look at texas. A lot of people have talked about them as their dark horse in this particular region. I i'm not so sure. I'm willing to buy into that narrative necessarily todd we know boosters or flush but they still have a budget in mind right. They had to buy out a football coach so about multiple football coaches. So that's why shocker. Smart survived along with some of the cove issues and we knew he was on the hot seat coming into the season effectively. What would chicago. Smart did was like throw his system out the window and just let guys play. He decided to like. Hey it might be a good idea to let my like long. Bouncy athletes get up and down the floor and that's kind of what's been the difference for taxes. Last season belong horns. Were two hundred and ninety second injustice pace only twenty four percent of shots came in transition this season texas one hundred thirty nine injustice. Almost thirty two percent of shots come in transition. What do you know most efficient. Texas offense in the shock smarter so i if he can get them to limit the dumb long twos in the mid range jumpers. They could take that next step would i do like is texas can do damage from deep and around the rim on offense which is nice sixty five percent of their near proximity shots with some of the big fellas. You mentioned you'd like taxes to do some of the little things better and if they can. Maybe it is a team that can make some runs right that they have a propensity to turn it over there. Not great at the free throw line. Those are the kinds of things that get. You beaten close games. But if the longhorns can kind of clean up the mental areas there's no reason they can't fight for an elite eight bit. And i think when you look at texas regardless of who they were to play. Should they survive in christian in that opening round the winner of byu ucla michigan state. I don't think any of that trio of teams would provide a massive threat to taxes to be quite honest with the team. I was hoping had some odd disastrous match ups and mines in front of them. Because i was looking at bet against. I'm not quite sure the it's going to allow for that early on when we look at the rest of this particular region and we'll get to the lsu. Saint bonaventure game. In a minute. We try and find a team outside of the top five That has the makings of that. Bracket disruptor so to speak. You mentioned one in the form of the yukon. Huskies that i had circled. I wasn't sure if that was a team. You wanted to highlight or if there was a different direction you wanted to going. I mean i kind of mentioned at the top right like you're looking for regions to maybe have some various. This would be the one. I mean you could make a case for michigan. Lsu f issue texas yukon alabama. And maybe even byu like to potentially all make or have a shot at making the final four like this is going to be the region. I think the east that has a ton of variance but from a value perspective. Yukons really the one that makes the most sense as the team. Outside the top five seeds to potentially make some noise yukon for us as more like a four or five seed by the numbers. When you look at the matchup if they can get past maryland and that's not going to be an easy task. There are the type of team that might annoy alabama and get them to play a game. That's not their smile right. Like connecticut plays like a snail outside the top three hundred injustice pace. So if you have a down game enforce alabama to hit jumpers. You have a chance. Uconn does a really good job. Defending the paint second best in the country and defending near proximity shots yukon blocks over eighteen percent of shots at the rim so again get alabama the half court force him to shoot long jumpers. Because you have some good. Interior defense. Overall yukons pretty balanced twenty five in both offensive and defensive efficiency. So both you. And i think the world of dan hurley so unkind forced here. I'd go yukon as a team outside the top five to potentially disrupt some things in that east region and big news for yukon as well rj. Cole appears to have clear concussion. Protocol says concerns about his availability. James book night hopefully should be at full go. One hundred percent definitely in my opinion the most dynamic player overall in the big east. And i think the one they'll add the most value and it takes a little bit of pressure off a guy like martin as well so i'm right there with you with the huskies and which crazy about 'em pain is you look around the landscape. I've seen them as low as seven to one to win the region. I've seen as high as fourteen to one so tell. All of you are loyal listeners. Do your due diligence. And make sure your shopping around for the best available price. Especially if you'd like to take a flyer somewhere in the mix opening round matchup though lsu and saint bonaventure the eight nine showdown. You're looking at lsu. A one and a half point favorite at faneuil sportsbook the total hovering anywhere from one forty two and a half in the low end. I've seen it as high as one forty four. You mentioned early on in the show paying talking about lsu. This team is dynamic offensively camera. Thomas trend in wofford devante smart. I'll one two three. Maybe as good as any trio in the country the problem being. Lsu's sometimes they get a little bit lax and lax might not be strong and afford for how they wanna perform on the defense. They're in the bottom third in the sec. Points per game allowed. They do a terrible job of defensive rebounding. We saw that in the last tournament two years ago rear. Its ugly head against michigan state. Who just beat them to a pulp when it came to the rebounding side of things. Meanwhile saint bonaventure on the other side. Mark schmidt has latin impressive team that finished sixteen and four. This season team only played three games for the calendar flip so they handled a little bit of adversity with a slow start to the season. But guys like kyle often jaren homes more than capable and comfortable playing in the half court and that could be style conducive to frustrating. Lsu just pure power rating wise. Made this game pick and if you told me. The refs would swallow the whistle. You'd absolutely be looking at the bonnie's plus to be no other way to look. I think if you just rolled out the starting five and jumped the ball seem. Bonaventure probably has a better than fifty percent. Chance to win this game. Unfortunately they've got zero depth like five guys play. Eighty two to ninety five percent of the minutes candidly like there is not a six man. Capable of of being competent like alejandro. Vazquez plays that sixth man role for the bodies played about thirty four percent teams minutes as a player efficiency rating of ten so well below average. That's make me on my rec league team back in the day. They just say hey firm you stand outside the primer. Don't shoot do you remember what color t. shirt you're i'm trying to think i feel like you were like a light blue. No i feel like we weren't like mint green. Or we may or may not have lost by seventy two points in one game. We had nobody on our line up more than six feet so it was a little bit of a problem and thankfully for your parents. This is what led you to pick up a stick and get a scholarship. Oh my basketball skills and never even got started. I think the last time. I played organized basketball before. I got suckered into plan pickup after moving out here to vegas joining league. I think i finished it like eight or nine pain. I don't think i've ever score double digits in a game and it doesn't matter what level even playing against like five and six year old nieces and nephews and that sort of thing knowing your personality i feel like you were Cable guy like you had the headband. The wristbands and glue guy out. Definitely the glue guy slap in the floor. Trying new throw elbows if i needed to on the perimeter. But you know when you're only about one hundred and fifty pounds silken doesn't allow you to be physically imposing on the defensive end of the court yes back to the topic at hand. We run three hours on this podcast. The one thing. Bonaventure does they play. Really good defense sixteenth. In overall defense efficiency they close out on the three point. Line pretty well. They defend the mid range game well their fourth in near proximity defense. They're blocking almost thirteen. Percent rim shots they only allow twenty three percent of their opponents shots to come in transition which is something else she wants to do. Wants to kind of forge lsu to play in the half court. There's like an understanding. I think that guys. Like you mentioned cam thomas watson and smart. They don't necessarily have the best shot selection. So if you can force that trio who likes to play so ball and take tough jumpers you have a shot then it's all about rebounding the mess that's somewhat of the area of concern here because the bodies are outside the top two hundred in defensive rebounding so you need to get lsu in the half court make him take their. We're jumpers and rebounding basketball. But i think the way you win. This game is is slowing down. The bodies are three hundred and nineteenth and adjusted pace. You gotta execute in the half court. We know lsu struggles defensively. But i did mention they've substantially better once will wade switched to a man defense and there's plenty of talent there so they could be better than their numbers with further by right in an effort because this is the tournament. You just have to keep lsu honest here. Let them get cheap points in transition. Rebound the ball. Don't let them on the defensive glass pray you can stay out of foul trouble and you might be able to like mentally outlast. Lsu the reason. I haven't met this yet is because lsu ceiling is substantially higher. Most of their deficiencies are mental. I mean i mentioned this before. But like if they can figure out the shot selection and the defensive effort ticks up which is a tournament right one and done you would think this is the most effort will see from. Lsu they have the talent to make a final four run. So that's the the ceiling here is something that makes me a little bit nervous. It's far higher than saint bonaventure ceiling. Before we get out of this region. I have to ask your thoughts on florida state because it might be the last time. We mentioned this program in any capacity on the podcasts. Either football or college basketball for quite some time seeded fourth. We saw them turn the ball over twenty five times in the acc title game opposite knowles team. That goes extremely deep. One of the tournament's best perimeter shooting teams is florida state a legitimate threat to make the final four. They are that they are. And if you don't turn if you don't turn over as a real chance today may give zog or run. I believe they've faced each other in the last two tournaments they have created problems have created so if they don't turn it over they are tough to be right they got biggs got guys that could shoot it. Then get up and down the court play in the half court and they are a very very good team now. We know this with leonard hamilton. And i hate to say this. But i've mentioned it before kudos to him right. Is this supposed to be a football program. And he's turned it into a basketball school right now. So he's recruiting has been fantastic but he is. Not some schematic wizard. So if you get a game where you are outcoached and they turn it over. This is typically how fsu soils themselves. But i kind of look at the coaching in the top part of that region. It doesn't necessarily scary but again. I if it doesn't turn it over and they aren't completely outcoached like this is. This is a team that can certainly make the four and a credit to fsu. This team goes extremely deep. Get thirty one and a half points per game from the reserves that's best amongst all major conference schools and seventh nationally. So it's not as though they're a one trick pony although there led by. Obviously scottie barnes. Mj walker enrico on gray so a team to watch for sure. If you want to upset the applecart as we head into the south region pain baylor the number one overall seed. They're they are. Of course the favourite fan duel the come out at plus dollar ten year looking at ohio state a shade less than four one texas tech at six to one. Arkansas nine one. Unc tend to one purdue same price. No thirteen wisconsin thirteen and then everybody else twenty two or higher. We look at the baylor bears. This team is good in backward is any team in the country. But they haven't been able to regain some of that momentum in swagger they had before their covert pause. when you look at baller. You talked about a coach. That's not a wizard from an xs and os standpoint. Will he be able to roll the ball out there and let his athletes go out there and perform for baylor to finally make the final four as you know in the game of life. Sometimes a big wallet helps negate some talent deficiencies with your so. That that's where valor stands with their head coach. Listen i i think we all know what baylor can be. The talent is obviously through the roof. Maybe with a week off they can regroup and flip the switch but really what's happened since the twenty one day layoff in february isn't a team that would be one zero and if you look at baylor outside the top three forty and momentum coming into this tournament five and two straight up their last seven over that stretch. They've been eight and a half points worse than market expectation on average but they are loaded and they shoot piss out of it. The offense is ridiculous. Hundred and twenty one points per one hundred possessions number three and overall offense efficiency number one in three point shooting efficiency. They score the ball inside pretty well sixty five percent of their near proximity shots and when they do actually miss the crash glass for the offense of rebound rate and when you give them a second chance they make you pay fourteenth and second chance scoring opportunities. Defensively is worth question. Mark is and it's why baylor's interesting because flipping the switch. Seems like an actually means buying back in and committing defensively right. It takes energy it takes effort. And you gotta wanna play defense if you look at one point. This season baylor is number one in defensive efficiency. They went into that twenty one day. Layoff eighth adjusted defensive efficiency but over the seven game stretch where they've underachieved baylor's been a hundred and eighty i and defensive efficiency. They've struggled closing out in deep shots. They've struggled with their defensive rebounding now. Those numbers are never gonna look great right when you play two three zone. But the eye in the sky doesn't lie here like a lot of this is is effort. If baylor can get back to their hungrier ways you'd think the tournament wakes them up right baylor shown an ability to turn opponents over. Especially when you have a guy at the top of your defense and dave mitchell. Who's on the ball. I think they can get back defensively and that's really what's missed. The offense hasn't really skipped a beat. It's just that effort and intensity defensively that hasn't been there since they've gotten back from that three week lay-off but i think if they can can buy back in. This is going to be a baylor team. That's as good as as we saw earlier in the season number. Two seed in the region. The ohio state buckeyes. We saw them linked to the conclusion of the regular season. Losers a four straight highlighted by scoreless four miniature out against illinois in the regular season finale. They raised any lingering doubt with a strong run in the conference tournament. Coming up just short against the fighting alon in overtime a game where they did trail by as many as seventeen points when you look at what chris. Holtman has dwayne washington and ej adele provided as dynamic and inside outside. Do you're gonna find slight injury concern for kyle. Young not quite sure of his availability. What the buckeyes do well as they shoot. Free throws as strongly as anybody led by cj walker. Ninety six percent from the stripe. But the problem for the buckeyes pain and you mentioned baylor not wanting to commit defensively well. Ohio state buckeyes have been a little bit lax on that side of the court. All season long will that ultimately be there kryptonite limiting them in terms of how deep run they can make. Yeah i mean. State is vulnerable on defense. Their guards don't really disrupt things down on the perimeter. Ohio state doesn't turn you over there. Not good defending the three ball but the saving grace defensively is somehow chris. Holtman schematically makes you. Beat his buckeyes defense for mid range. And that's the one thing that they at least have going for them defensively but the buckeyes are veteran team. Who's best player is. Ej ladele sophomore. So offensively it's this calling card. It seems to be a perfect fit of pieces with veterans that play around a skillful young kid. That can play with his back to the basket. Or keep you on his from three metrically th. This is the best ohio state often. Since two thousand eleven they can shoot the ball. They make a high rate of mid-range jumpers and they scorn inside when ohio state does actually missed. They do a good job. Crashing glass overall hundred nineteen points per one hundred possessions for his buckeyes offense. They do the little things right. They take care of the basketball. They don't turn it over. They attack the basket and get teams in foul trouble. This is a pretty interesting ohio state team. I know the feels. Like they're missing piece and i kind of agree when i watched them but metrically pretty good. Now let me ask you this. Have you heard anything on on kyle. Young's availability we know. He had that concussion where it's kind of scary. They they let them continue to play. They weren't sure how serious it was and they took him out and it was like. Hey this pretty serious. Have we heard anything on. His availability had not as of last. Night hadn't poked around yet this morning as we sit here thursday in the am so curious to see what materializes later in the day or what might ultimately come to light before tip off tomorrow. So have not seen anything conclusive or concrete about his status and availability okay. I'm kind of poking around right now. Lead us to the next venture. As i should poke around for short of we look at the three seed in this region. That would be the arkansas razorbacks at team that finished thirteen and four in conference. Twenty two and six overall Led by moses moody. Who has been kind of a revelation of sorts for coach. Musselman's bunch arkansas. They love to push pace. They scorn bunches extremely athletic around the rim and they love to contest shots defensively one of the issues much like alabama that. We talked about arkansas. Not exactly the best in the half court and you do worry a little bit about that. This is a team that lost four or five and early january to lsu twice missouri tennessee obama but all six of their losses. This season came against nca tournament bound teams last sweet. Sixteen appearance for the razorbacks way. Back in one thousand nine hundred ninety six but they did finish the regular season as hot as anybody before ultimately losing to lsu in the conference tournament. When i look at arkansas paying a lot of people have talked about them as a team that has the pieces to knock off baylor and maybe get to the final four but should arkansas be worried about any opponents on their schedule earlier on off can provide a little bit a wrench in their game. Plan if you look up pace in space you'll probably see a picture of of the razorbacks Seventeen adjusted pace. They love the. Push it off. Mrs twenty two percent of arkansas shots. Coming within ten seconds of defensive. Rebound i mean they're like up your ass if you don't get back on defense in timely fashion but this is kind of talked about like it's another like ragtag type team. That's just long fast bouncy and athletic. Arkansas shoots it well enough. They like to get out. They like to attack the paint attack. The glass arkansas's pretty damn good converting second chance opportunities into points but the calling card is their defense. The only surrender eighty eight points per one hundred possessions. They defend the interior pretty well. Thirty six in close proximity defense. They block almost fourteen percent shots at the rim. You have connor vanover athletic seven. Three big manny's responsible for most of those blocks. He's fifteenth in the entire country in block percentage himself. I know you're familiar with eric muscleman. Who coach in your backyard nevada. He doesn't do anything overly sophisticated but his guys buy in. They play hard and they attack. Now the concern would be. They haven't really shown while away from home. This season outside the top three hundred and away rating. I know it seems like from the little. I've listened to out there is. You're either uber. High on arkansas. Or you have colgate giving them all they can can handle. I think that. I'm probably in the camp because i think colgate just can't play that similar style with them not overly sold texas tech or utah state and their athlete enough to give ohio state some issues but i think if they play baylor they're not gonna out athlete baylor and baylor substantially better in the half court. So i know a lot of people are calling. You know arkansas. Has maybe that sleeper team to to make the final four which is which is possible. They're hitting shots. But i'm kind of between i'm not the guy calling for the upset versus colgate but i'm also probably not the guy that saying. Hey they're gonna they're gonna beat baylor some somewhere. In between. that's a fair assessment. I think this region. In general. In my opinion i was looking for a team that i had circled. And i'll be honest. I think baylor. Ohio state at arkansas for me. As far as top three seeds are concerned all have their vulnerabilities ultimately going to have to try and identify. Somebody come out of this region. Haven't coined arrived at my decision yet when you maybe it's maybe it's like a team or something right. I mean close proximity home. Maybe a little touch of of homecourt advantage. I think they're young. They're probably. I think we all expected them to be the team next year. But who knows maybe maybe surprise. Some people may and that team is so tough for me to try and figure out. He's a game. That has me actually baffled against north taxes. Early on just. Can't erase the purdue game against arkansas. Little rock a few years ago when you look at despoilers team and you wonder where they're going to go for consistent offense on each and every possession and you talk about a five seat in villanova a team that i was high on if they were at full-strength aclu without calling gillespie their ceiling is extremely limited. I don't even know where you begin to look for a true sleeper here. I mean texas tech. Coaching lies chris. Beard is outstanding but this team is underwhelmed down the stretch going just three and five now to their credit all of those losses came against teams seeded for better so maybe it was a byproduct of a very difficult big twelve road. That was there a mac. Maclagan tear terrence shannon. Have not been those guys and then you know. Virginia tech on the ten line painter. They a team that if they get through florida can maybe do some things to frustrate. Ohio state mike. Young's been here done that. Before is head coach wofford. I was going to kick this back to you. Because i don't see a team that can make noise outside the top five seeds in the south. I think the sweet sixteen is pretty straightforward. Maybe maybe ohio state slips. Kalayaan is out in. Virginia tech just cuts them to death That would be the only thing that could potentially make some sense but again. I don't see virginia tech potentially getting past arkansas. But maybe as like this tiny little sleeper someone that could maybe give ohio state some issues. Maybe it's virginia tech but that's no easy first round match against florida so i don't really really see a team potentially causing noise again maybe if purdue wakes up and figures out some things on offense or takes that next step in their maturation because i do think there year way maybe they dethroned baylor but i just think right now feels like a lot of the sentiment is a little bit negative towards baylor with how they've played outside or after returning from that twenty one day. Layoff that if they just buy back on defense like to me. They're going to run away with this region. Although it seems pretty chunky if they buy back indefensibly no one can touch them in this region. I will say one thing. that's interesting. Should we get texas tack against arkansas. You talked a little bit about the must boss not necessarily being the best. Axes knows guy but being a big recruiter. You wonder if tech can do something schematically with the thirty six hour turnaround to try and frustrate arkansas. Because they won't be overwhelmed athletically and you look at the gauntlet detect had to go through the big twelve. I actually think it's a massive step up the level of competition. They faced compared to what the sec is a nightly basis in. We know right. The coaching prowess text as one of the very best coaches in the land schematically so on that short turnaround texas tack if they can survive the utah state game which i think even though there's been steam against we both feel like texas tech should be able to beat utah state in advance. So that will certainly be an interesting game there if it is texas tech in arkansas two contrasting styles. So you might be right. I know you a little bit higher in texas tech than i am. So maybe that's the team that that surprises people. We'll find out and of course knowing that potentially higher on them watching mountain west team up my ass and utah state will pull off the upright upset in the first round the most intriguing matchup on paper the eight nine showdown between north carolina and wisconsin north carolina. One and a half point favorite right now at fan duel sportsbook in this particular matchup. You look at the total sitting at one thirty seven and a half as you begin dive in carolina this year pain just three and eighth straight up against teams that are actually in the field of sixty eight. We know the key. Cogs in roy williams machine caleb love and rj. Davis both freshmen guards can be turnover prone garrison brooks armato because upfront offensive rebounding. Hey that's been north carolina's best offensive. Set for years with roy at the health but as far as weaknesses are concerned turnover prone and they're not efficient shooting the basketball. Can they find ways to score consistently in the half court against the veteran-laden wisconsin team who underwhelmed down the stretch. But when you dig into the wins and losses in my opinion. There's no shame in when your loss is coming into michigan illinois and iowa completely agree now on the surface. You're looking at two teams. That haven't beaten a soul to get here. Wisconsin's one nine against our top twenty five four in ten against our top fifty north carolina owen to against our top twenty five one in six against our top fifty. But it's very clear wisconsin's played the tougher schedule as you alluded to in a coin. Toss game like this. I think the little things matter. And when you look at turnovers and free throws wisconsin's numbers number. Doing the country. Turnovers number twenty eight and free throws north carolina. Two hundred fifty seventh in turnovers two hundred and ninety fifth from the free throw line. Defensively teams are top. Fifteen inefficiency end. The area of weakness for wisconsin has been defending on the perimeter. But you isn't see hasn't been like they don't have a threat from the outside the season so if you had to pick which team can get into their sets and run better offense. It's wisconsin in north. Carolina is been pretty ragtag. They wanna get out in transition. Thirty six percents shot attempts. Come from running out Where the advantage lies is wisconsin's two hundred eighty six in the country preventing transition opportunity. So you know the focus is going to be about getting your ass. Back off a mess for wisconsin and when you force. Unc to play in the half court. It basically becomes a game of volleyball throat at the rim and go get north carolina's freshmen guards as you. You mentioned there. Caleb love and rj davis they have banned horrific. And that is putting it as nicely as i can so. Unc's offense is basically grabbing misses. They're the most efficient offensive rebounding team in the country. They convert over ten percent of their second chance opportunities into points. That's number two in the country. But if wisconsin can get back on defense and limit the offensive rebounds they will win because they already do the little things. Well if they don't get back and rebound. Unc might be able to out. Athlete them candidly. We made wisconsin. Small favourite badgers plus two and a half into is very sharp. Their entire team feels like they've been in college for about six years so it's like the super bowl. Thirty twenty three or twenty. Four actually have been in college for six years. A lot of those guys are actually called doctors though. Yeah it was a mission they were on and i think it was to discover some type of new cheese but this is like a super veteran team experience guards to me that matters in the tournament the interesting trend here and there's a couple of them is mentioned one being they're not very good at this arena but again this is north carolina this isn't purdue and the other one that's interesting is old boy here. Twenty in in the first round of the tournament professional bettors or blocking those strengths mean. Hey the last time that we saw north carolina go down in the opening round back in nineteen ninety nine about three years old then pain herald this show arsenault. Who was the man that we state before. A guy by the name of game lillard came came along three fourteen showdown but i think bill guttridge was. The coach changes a little bit of the diary. The show what the heck's his name which is i- arsenault arsenault gotta tell you go when the single is white. Pull them up. We're in dry areas interesting if he can't spell in the right way it's gonna spell. It stole right wise ass. We'll see about that. All right one final region to go and that is the mid west illinois is the number one overall seed and they are the heavy favorite plus a dollar twenty five. You're looking at houston. Interestingly enough has taken some money they opened his highest plus three fifty at some shops. I've seen them as low as two to one to come out of the region arguably one of the more fortuitous paths for to see to have and that's a significant. Drop down until you get to the likes of west virginia a very different looking. Bob huggins team. You talk about the four seat in oklahoma state who a lot of people are talking about is being grossly under seated led by keith cunningham and tennessee team that i haven't been able to figure out coming in on the number five line but when you look at illinois paying. Their only loss in mission came against michigan state since they suffered back to back losses in mid-january. This team has really come on strong down the stretch we knew about. I assume you in what he meant. Controlling the guard position Kofi in the middle has been an absolute bear but this team founded strident founded swagger with a six man. He being a form of andre curbello given them an element that they desperately lacked early on a conference. Black right i mean brad underwood is a mastermind in. He's finally getting the most out of the talent and took some time to put it all together but you mentioned them being extremely hot down. The stretch won fourteen of fifteen. Half of those wins by were by ten or more. The only loss was on the road to sparty so they have a legitimate shot to win this tournament. But you know the midwest brackets tough when you think about the possibility of playing. You're you're in state rival from doing half hours down the road and loyal chicago. Who's an easy top fifteen team in the second round. So they didn't get a gift. They're tennessee oklahoma state or solid top. Twenty five teams in houston's probably touch overrated because their conference. Thanks but there are top ten team overall as well and if you look metric There's not a ton of holes there right if you want to. Nitpick they don't really turn you over and their defense at the rim isn't anything to write home about. They struggle from the free throw. Line their offense while efficient is an overly sophisticated they rely in transition. Roughly thirty two percent of their shot attempts come in transition when they play in the half court. It's basically a spread out. Pick and roll offense or dump. It into the post is a very good team. I mean they have a shot to win the tournament. I mean that's obviously why there once. But i mean they just. They didn't get any any gifts there. That second round matchup could be real difficult. Houston's interesting oklahoma state obviously has the talent and potential with what we project to be the number one overall pick maybe that gives them a little bit trouble but you know if they can get past that second round they might be pretty frene clear. So i mean i know i know this is your team from your home state. Anything that might be concerning about illinois's making run. I had some questions about some of their secondary scoring options and they struggled and a half court early on the season. They were taking a lot of bad shots. They were pushed teams. That i didn't think were quite on the same level as them but they've shown that resilience that you watch carello come off the bench and give them that spark. I think it's provided different dynamic. That trend frazier and company hadn't been able to provide of course. This team is a lot different of kofi gets in foul trouble and you mentioned the potential showdown against loyola in the round of thirty two as loyalist task gets a little bit easier now. That georgia tech will be without moses right up front camera trot week is going to be a load and so if the refs have a quick whistle and illinois has to go a little bit smaller. I don't like some of their secondary bigs nearly as much but this is a team that goes is i goes and you look at a team playing as confidently as anybody like to see some of that swagger. They weren't rattled against ohio state. after blowing. A seventeen point lead actually even had a chance to cover the opening number when they were up six overtime. I just like what i've seen from them. And i think when you look at their overall body of work a very worthy team of not only the number one seed of maybe being that number two overall behind just gonzaga now. Would i endorse a plan. Them at six to one to win the national championship. Absolutely not given the road that they'll have to go through moneyline. Rollover will play a little bit better. And i'm curious to see how they handle the game against drexel knowing it's their first tournament appearances two thousand thirteen so we'll get an idea of exactly what are you talking about some of the committee metrics twelve quad. One wins the most in division one. That of course being a byproduct that daunting big ten schedule they play tonight at night out. Yeah i mean talk you go. Oh god no no no go jumping. I was going to say no when you look at the rest of the region though houston is a team that i think is interesting for variety of reasons i. I don't think there is good as the team that we saw a couple years ago finished. Thirty three and four and get knocked out in the sweet sixteen against kentucky. Aga kelvin sampson's credit. When you're leading scorer from last year kayla mills transfers out. And you don't miss a beat. Houston was done a lot of favors. They have in my opinion the easiest road to the elite eight of any to see their team. That's top twenty an offensive and defensive efficiency and they make you work for absolutely everything. But i think you raise an excellent point. How battle-tested have they really been an ac. That's down year over year. I was typically like houston. I'm forgetting the kid's name who is who is the assassin there who had the man bun for houston years era. I knew i knew you were gonna ask me. It's gonna drive me. Nuts could talk about this year. Houston iteration i'm gonna find it now. What a what. A good college basketball player i think. His size is alternately. What's limited his professional career but man. That guy was walking bucket at the college level. So you know. I think you hit this perfectly. I i think the biggest question anyone probably has about houston is Are they battle-tested. We know the is down. Houston's average opponent rank is outside the top one fifty. They've played one game against a team in our top twenty five. Now you mentioned. They did overcome some issues. The season they lost caleb mills who decided transfer out midseason fabian. White is recovering slowly from an acl and to me doesn't look himself. But it's hard not to think houston won't be in the elite eight right. There might not be an easier sector to get to the elite eight then what houston has here. I mean i guess you could argue like syracuse. Probably some people will argue that. They don't belong in the dance and you know about my relationship with west. Virginia and i think they're probably more like a six seat. And i probably have reason to be like the most biased when it comes who But i don't think there are three illinois will have a more difficult round two game. The houston well so to me like houston has the easiest to fifteen matchup of the tournament. And we know kelvin. Sampson's done right. He's been fantastic. Houston his teams are tough. They'll be up attacked the glass number. Two in offense rebound samson. Has i think gobs of perimeter talent when you look at grimes. The kansas transfer all conference player of the year. You have sasser and mark and drew who can all create their own shot as well. It just makes me nervous. That they haven't played a soul. But i really don't think there's much in their way To prevent them from getting to the elite eight. And i think that's part of the reason that we've seen their number come down substantially off from where it was at three two one a moneyline rollover would new even got you there and a game where you know quite honestly pain. They project to be about bucket. Underdog against illinois should see told and i think that might surprise a lot of people of course. Perception can change things. Go on. i was blown away by anybody. Close six and a half point favorite against ohio state. So maybe i just haven't caught up in terms of the market adjustments on the fighting but clearly something to watch their when you look at the three seed you mentioned it west. Virginia a very different looking west virginia mountaineers team this year. What we've seen in the past three close losses in their final four games. This is a team that wants to go out score you more so than grind you out. Defensively tash sherman leads a cavalcade of guys four double digit scores. Derek kover the big man on the inside. It's imperative that he stays out of foul trouble problem for west virginia. They don't shoot the ball well and they don't control the defensive class not always a recipe for deep running march. Yeah so listen i mean. There's not many coaches in the country. That can do what what. Bob huggins is done at west virginia with that talent level. Although he's recruiting a little bit better of late people have now bought into the system. This version of west. Virginia and you hinted at this is different. It's basically the inverse of last year. State their offense. I defense second score about one hundred thirteen points per one hundred possessions but again like i we kind of have them more like a five seed than than a three according to our power ratings west. Virginia's gone six in nine against our top fifty. Now in the guards are hitting shots. They can beat anybody but but you know me dodd. Like in the analytically driven world. We're in now like i. I don't want thirty five percent of my team shots. Two point jumpers and that's basically what west virginia is offensively. You know we're taking threes. We wanna get something at the rim or we're going in transition may we're going to follow like that's how you're a little bit more analytically sound now. West virginia does shoot it well from three but they only shoot at thirty four percent of the time as a team and and with that style. I feel like there's a lot of variance to west virginia's game. They could get bounced early or they can make four run. So that's that's the interesting part. And you hit on this perfectly despite having a guy down low like derek culver west virginia doesn't rebound on the defensive end that will outside the top two thirty and defensive rebounding. Now they're battle-tested fifteen toughest schedule the country. The bottom of the midwest is we kind of hinted at here like a it's not a murderer's row by any stretch and huggins is probably the best coach in that that sector. I am hoping for an elite eight final four run and it can happen of west virginia. Shot selection is better than they rebounded to touch better on on the defensive side so so let's see right. Just take better shots rebound the ball and and you could. You can make a final four. Run here with bob huggins but those things are are a little bit of a deterrent for me. I mean i know you're rooting for brad. Underwood bob huggins showdown. You ought to see the coaching tree. In all of its glory with a right to get to the final four. Yes when you look at those teams. Yeah it'll be interesting because we've talked a western you being under seated in the last couple years this year with arguably i don't wanna see the worst just a different form overseas with where they currently are when you look at the rest of the region and try and find that dark horse that cinderella a team that can really upset the apple cart oklahoma state. Getting a lot of buzz pain but while kate cunningham's is star. I'm not sure. I believe in mike breen. And his ability to make eight adjustments to head coach. It's done more that shock me than anything else. And i know he's been bandied about as one of the potential front runners maybe for minnesota job oklahoma state though obviously they need to cherish this postseason run because they may not get one in subsequent years once the ncaa ultimately comes down with a ruling. But if you're trying figure out teams outside of those top four. Who do you see. Check boxes Can make a deep run in this region. I think everyone kind of knows her feelings about loyal at this point georgia tech. Unfortunately you know is paired with them and now they're both stuck against illinois in round two so i don't really have a team outside the fifth seed to make noise in this region. I in obviously we know georgia tech got hit with the The bug here looks like their best player is going to be out. I i think the only one that would just make logical sense based upon their number would be san diego state. But i mean they just haven't look good down the stretch and they're wins they're not battle-tested outside the top one hundred and strength of schedule just feels like every time we try to make a case for a mountain west team to make a run. We quickly realized the conference is a massive disappointment. This is a tournament that i would like attend annually. And you kind of get like hyped up and then and then all of a sudden you start to see. It's like no one defense. And that's why saying the state seems to do pretty walnut like everyone plays off. The guards tend to be a little overrated just based upon the style of defense in that conference. I know nevada on a buck. The trend recently. But that wolfpack team had multiple pros on it. But you know the scares me. It's like you know syracuse zone comes alive during the tournament and you know if you look to san diego says a team. That could make some noise. I mean they legitimately be bounced out in the first round. I think we'll eventually see some some buyback on that. That three that game started towards three and a half. The market didn't like that. And when you just look at syracuse in what they've been able to achieve in this tournament and what behind is done. I mean. he exceeds expectation this tournament. So it makes me a little nervous going at with san diego state as maybe the dark horse to make some noise here. this this probably isn't the region that i would be looking for a lot of variants in i can't interest you and some rick barnes stock along the five seed line as like a cat with nine lives. I just saw. I mean listen can like build the program. He can recruit gay man as they're just a ceiling on what what what he can be. I i just. I don't think he's a very coach. But hey you know who knows who knows. I feel like the talent tennessee. Has they've kind of underachieved your high expectations coming into the year. When you have such highly acclaimed guards as kion. Johnson jaden springer but tennessee. As we've seen time and time again can be great one half like they were against alabama. And you're left scratching your head because they can't put together a complete performance because the offense completely goes kaput liberty on the thirteen line pain. Have we've seen real money on them. It's oklahoma state or is that more public in anything else taking that number from nine to seven and a half so this is certainly a time of year where the public has their say And the public might ultimately land on liberty. But they're doing a majority of their betting closer to game day Real move real Liberty plus nine in and even took a second number at eight and a half in. That is why you were down to seven here. We'll see ritchie mckay. The pack line. Defense tony bennett. Disciple can frustrate an oklahoma state team. That's as good offensively when they want to be but still relatively young experience led by cade cunningham. I think this is one thing. That's that's somewhat interesting or gone kind of off the beaten path here. We'll try to wrap this up inside of ninety minutes but this is the one time of year. Where bettors are going to widen their parameters for place right typically. This is a lot of just number driven stuff but like coaching style. Up all of those things right information like we see with the virginia again. Those are things that are going to matter a little bit more in these tournaments style settings so when you look at liberty they really mimic a team like tcu who's just an absolute snail and has beaten oklahoma state twice so that's kind of the correlation in the reason that professional bettors have been on liberty here oklahoma state out talents them every single day the way but that style we already know has given oklahoma state trouble. It's the recipe to beating them and liberty plays with that same style going to be interesting as it always is no matter how much homework you do how. Well you know these teams inside and out. There will be some eye-popping upsets and that's what makes tournament great especially when the cream rises to the top and we get some of the best teams in the land playing for the national title albeit in unique circumstances. Here in twenty twenty one you could follow pain on twitter at paine insider. I'm todd firm. Of course can follow me there as well. Most importantly follow the podcast at the board pod for all things. Nca tournament and march madness going forward and is always fan. Duel dot com backslash. Bet the board go there. Sign up get yourself. One of the best accounts in the game in states fan duel is available. They have all sorts of outstanding. Sign up bonuses. We all need a great out live betting. Nca tournament props you name it. It's all there that the board your promo code take full advantage beginning. But the spread the love campaign with michigan state. I believe now paying and ninety four point. Underdog against ucla. I'd expect tommaso to get you to the window at that particular price tag. We do have one order of business before we close up shop on this opening weekend and that of course is trying to identify where we will be able to make some money so when it comes to a best bet in the round of sixty four paint. What do you have circled this weekend. My friend it's a game that we already broke down. But i think we can make it official. It's not the best number we obviously would would have liked plus two on this game. But i think going with wisconsin plus the one and a half makes a lot of sense again. They're just the more battle tested team. I know the record is in great but when you look at their losses it's to all of the elite teams in this tournament. There the more veteran team they have the better guards. It's easier to slow a game down than the speed it up and i think all of those advantages are gonna play to wisconsin's favor here again. We make wisconsin about a two point favorite in this game. So let's go with the badgers as around one best. Bet there's nothing more enjoyable than watching wisconsin run perimeter offense and going through five and a half minute scoring drought to realize. You've only lost three points on your lead at some point during a basketball game. So brad davidson and dietrich choice take us to the promised land with our first college basketball best. Bet i got asked him before we close up shop. Where are you watching these games. You stand in the home office or pops to watch the orange against the aztecs. Yeah i think will will start in the home office. And then As tradition has it little Syracuse with pops. Hopefully they make a little bit of a run. Be interesting to see how that unfolds syracuse is starting to get some help from some of the younger guys going with you guys up this year. So we'll see be interesting for some players to contribute. 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Scott Drew is a Good Coach, Regular Season Titles, and the Return to the Mean

Titus & Tate

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Scott Drew is a Good Coach, Regular Season Titles, and the Return to the Mean

"Today's episode of titus. Data's brought to you by discover- discover matches all the cash-back you earn on your credit card. At the end of your first year it's amazing because discovers accepted at ninety nine percent of places in the united states that take credit cards learn more. Discover dot com slash. Yes twenty twenty one nelson report limitations black on today's episode of titus and tate. I am going to say words. That i have never said my life. Nobody has ever said in their life. These are words that i never thought i would say on. This program deserve to win detroit seventeen national championships far. We're going to say words that every longtime to say the state Because i'm gonna take a deep breath. And i'm gonna say these words. Scott drew is a big twelve champion. Wow wait what. Scotch is a good coach. It's it's been solved. We crack the code. The baylor bears are big twelve. Congratulations scotch rue first. Time since nineteen fifty game of the week at west. Virginia the clincher. We just watched them beat Them being the bears obviously just watching him beat Oklahoma state tonight bather might be backdate. i think that's the lesson we're learning from. The baylor came out of paws and they lost to kansas and after the game scott. Drew did point to you know cova protocols being there kryptonite you remember that and now you know they get they get back on the tracks. Which is what we like to see. What it's superman have to do to get rid of the kryptonite. I forget it. I'm not fight. Another big story in college basketball this week. Illinois beat the snot out of michigan. Beat the snot out of michigan. This was we're we're to. I'm excited about this. Because it's not like what happened on. The court is almost the secondary story. Yes what's happening between these two fan bases fan base up to the game the during the game and like the whole the whole seed is hysterical So we're going to talk about that. Also andy catches joining us as he as he does most rightous. We're doing some tear talk with him. I caught him off. Guard with the question is a little bit of a big question. The time of the anti cats. I caught him off. Guard was a hint five to go in the pac twelve update. It's friday so we're going to keep the update and all that is coming up. But first what did you go before we dive into eight. I we got plug. The youtube page dot com slash titus. And tell you. We're putting all of our shows every every episode of podcast. You can watch us. There is wearing a dwayne wade. Explain to the y. You're wearing dwayne wade marquette jersey. So what happened. Was i had a marquette fan. A friend of the program jeannie fisher surname. She's in the the gumbel right now. The global wherever they're calling it is based at the g. league what they're calling it but i think it's something like a great live. Yeah something like that. Anyways north carolina. You remember this. A wednesday night scheduled a game with the fellow jordan school wall joe in the boys came to town wednesday night. Ginny reach out to me and said let's make a little wager. She's down there in the g. league bubble. I'm like i need some carolina. Representation the heels win you wear carolina's stuff if marquette wins at this point i'm like not possible outwear marquette on our show your face so the people like the laptops in the showed off. Show the people. Yeah so wait on the back. You know what i mean. I'm not gonna stand you know fun fact about the way. Tom crean coached him in college. I knew that this is your this. Your pin and wearing a hoodie shadow. Amish sent me this. That's great brand is back back for half second. We'll see like why. Why would you care about the. Thanks for wearing my shirt. I have no idea what the shirt all right enough about that. Anyway go go go go subscribe at ut page. I meant to say this to t we're doing one off thing so it's not just the show so if you listen to the show and you're like why would i want to watch the show when i listened to show. That's understandable fair. Where we we don't we disney But i just wanted to let you know we're putting stuff up there. That's not the show we we just did our. We're putting video up of our top five favorite biggies tournament moments We're not gonna put that. On the pike as we were going to do stuff like that on the channel obviously throughout march. We're going to do live stuff interview people and all sorts of things. The pod will continue. We will always do the pod. The pod will remain free But we're doing that on site so just wanted to let the people know that so we're also going to be here like on site on the lot in purse so if something happens you and i can just talk about it and yet live beyond youtube and yep go check that out all right. Let's get into illinois. Beat the absolute living. Hell out of michigan and what everyone was calling at the time and i think they're going to continue to call it the most shocking result of the season. Not because ought not good. Obviously because i would assume it was not playing this was this had all the makings going into the game. You know what before we talk about it. Let's for me. This was about the fans. Let's not talk about what brad underwood was saying and as other listeners the listeners get your own since let us here we go play some voicemails that we got from tate bertha at michigan week. I felt compelled to talk about last night between michigan illinois. That really expose michigan for being mickey mouse team. Everyone knew they were with mickey mouse schedule. I'm michigan thin and I just wanted to say as screw you gotta love for for jingping us for roughly two weeks straight by talking about the michigan high train i know for the most part can fans than pretty difficult for you. But don't don't think i hadn't seen what you guys i know last week. Because you're sneaking pass along a message me for the michigan fans basically just fuck you and Goal on things like their arrival but really they're out here acting like they just wanted to national championship. There going crazy. I mean michigan's still gonna win the big ten championship. This is basically the peak of my basketball since he cannot to worry about it. Take me a few hours to work through this emotionally. But i'm very glad that we lost you. Know people have been gathering up for like two weeks. Move to number two onto our heads and join those this you know. These need to get embarrassed not bringing it every night. They're gonna lewd. We really building character building resolve. We've got so. It's a good thing. But glad alters now or in the big ten other you sort of mindset spin it from what i saw michigan didn't do bad defensively just twenty hit. Our shop gotta make shy. high I would like to hit the panic button on behalf of every single team. That's going to play illinois in the month of march Brian underwood don't talk with them. It's gonna destroy thirty all right bye. I don't know if that guy was an illinois. Finish this your been god. He's like watch alphabet. Under the reason. I would have started the feds because for me. This is what this game was For those who don't know who don't live on the big ten message boards. As i do which. I was actually message but this was like mainstream. This wasn't this wasn't the deep dark web. this was like mainstream out in the open Just hatred hatred. Yeah michigan comes back to give you a little. A primer here tape michigan Is coming back from cova pause as a reminder the the they didn't have cases per se in the program it was like a school wide thing. Yes that they shut down They they were paused for the same amount of time as the women's team the women's team had a game against proves in last place On the day the day they were quote unquote cleared to play whatever The men were supposed to play illinois that night the women were given the go-ahead to play. The men said we're not ready yet. We covert protocols and the kind of like muddy the waters illinois fans interpreted that as you're dodging us. You don't want to play us. You need more time. You don't wanna come back and and michigan fans were like. Why would we dodge. You were so much better than you. Yes away we go. There's a tug of war fights you know. And and for that period of time there's has been hatred on both sides. It's been three weeks of bravado right. There been a lot of back and forth where both sides have not backed down against each other. Where you know michigan fans are like your shit on my shoe like i don't even see you know. We joked about this last week. Michigan fans when they talk to the gonzaga fans. We're in the toughest conference the plate northwestern we had to go at maryland. This is this. Is the craziest thing you've ever seen in basketball. Then the other side. They're like you can't even talk to us. Illinois korda's in illinois had the same exact confidence and bravado. So we shouldn't say that like they were even in the right have yeah illinois fans up until i o breaks his face and s and then when i o breaks his face and half illinois fans lake there we see where we still believe. But even the the the talk coming out of brat underwood's mouth was like he said going into this game. Big ten big ten championships. I don't really care more focused on you and he was kind of talking about whether you bring back for this game. Like how important is this game. Should we rush. And he was like You know but michigan fans interpreted. That is like oh so now because we're gonna win the big ted. You're not you're saying you don't care to win this game and it just went back and forth and i can only imagine how cathartic it must have been to be an. I fed to just have michigan because it like illinois as this is all going on illinois goes to overtime nebraska. We remember that in illinois lose at michigan state before michigan state beat ohio state in india like michigan started the run. They started this ron. Which by the way it's over it's overnight recipes. The michigan's day run because michigan to stop the but yes so so michigan fans are watching this. You're talking all this junk. You can't even beat michigan state and you can't you. You go to overtime with the break. I play in that game. He need a big shot. That beat northwestern at home in michigan. This is hysterical that you think you're on our level and then they kick their ass do this. It's unbelievable it is. It is absolutely shocking. Shocking to words. Trenton frazier and My family members frazier comes into this game and Decides that he is going to have. I think the best game. I've seen him play. I've watched you know tremblay couple years now and You know. I always keep up with the fraser's in the world to what they're doing. Keep an eye on them and in this game. He was unstoppable and anti expose. A little bit of michigan's may be lack. Not a glaring problem but lacking you know size at that one position right guard the pick and roll in a guy like that and then on the flip side. We saw hundred dickinson against luca. Garza owned him stuck his chest. Talk let it be known you get out of here. Milan beard him out of here. A couple gobble. Walruses dislike in a meeting ritual in that game. You know it was like this weird flip of like the the young buck the young frenchmen i take him over the old the old horse. Here and luca garza flipside we get to this game coffee coburn yep different animal to different type of guy and he comes and he is sitting message two hundred dickinson which basically like welcome to the real big ten big basket. Y'all were dunkin all over you. I'm letting you know that i'm here. You're gonna feel me And i thought from that standpoint it was interesting because it was a game where illinois cinna message from the interior and also. They had a prisoner guy. Frazier who goes off. I mean it was a perfect storm right illinois to have this great game. They sent a big message. But if you're michigan you don't take too much stock in. I got hit in the mouth. Yeah i actually genuinely believe. This is good for michigan. I think they needed to be humbled. Yank the fans may be to the fans to. I think this is. This is why we brought up. The the intercontinental bell did intercut the baylor and gonzaga. And there's the third team and we've seen over and over and over the team. That is the third best team. That's anointed is just like the pravada is through the roof yes like we are on the same level as gonzaga baylor we are proving it again up opposite a one. Yeah please. you're a yes. What is up there. And then they lose you. Pass it up like alabama. We saw with them alabama. If if you and i came on here and did a show we were like alabama's pretty good at we. Alabama fans are like pretty good. Are you kidding me. Pretty good and they will give like it's not enough. It's never enough fans kept happening. Ohio state. We had our run. I've got a little carried away. I'll put my hand up and say maybe got a little carried away And then you know. Michigan humbled us. And i was like all right. I'll i'll step back now. Then those michigan stern. Now it's always coincidentally illinois's now looking at all these dead bodies over to the side and they're like well at least that's not going to be us survive so pump the brakes everybody pumped the brakes. There is nothing at stake in this game whatsoever. i guess a one-seat illinois is probably going to get once he didn't win. And i honestly i feel like illinois ohio state this weekend vile state beats illinois. You sweep illinois. I mean i don't know it. Ohio state you know so. I don't think like this game. Anything was settled other than this fight amongst the fans base. Yes yes that was. That was all those settled. Wanna pick and if you're michigan right. I mean they're not even looking at this game as an issue of source like look. We needed to lose a game. We're fine we're okay and now they're playing the long game. We want to get the march. They win the big ten. They michigan state tonight. Chris webber tweets. Congratulations to michigan. Go blue. I mean think about that like you and i met twenty fourteen. Two thousand fifteen. Whatever it was if you had told us even then that jalen rose who we both are working with was going to get john harris going to bring the five mag that did not seem possible but anything is possible as we learned in two thousand twenty and now tonight five become the feb three. I feel like call. Ray ray jimmy array jimmy gb. More than ray like jimmy. Young i. I do think it's good for michigan like not. Obviously losing is not good. But you know it's a you just need to be humbled and they'll be fine. The big ten. They're gonna get rings that say big ten champions it's not gonna stay shaped by illinois without their best player that will that will not appear on the ring. So who cares. Michigan fares well in the big ten to. I could see them winning the big ten tournament. Having both of those things fans that we were talking about getting humbled me. So i remember when you were in the tournament. That's probably what happened I wanna i wanna say this to one of the fall outs from this two things. I guess two faults number one Luca garza solidified national player has yes illinois i. It was a great run. But i mean come on. I don't know how i don't know. How do you think some part of iot assume. I was watching this. Damn we'd have to win by forty like we could win by three guys wants to make clear that you don't need me like it wasn't great for his most valuable campaign again. It was a flash in the pan. I would say so the other thing As i felt for most of the season it is gonzaga versa. the field. that's where we are in the big picture. That does not mean gonzaga going to win. That does not mean gonzaga I i'm not putting odds on this. You get your analytics out of my face get your lake are so you're saying that it's a fifty percent. Chance is what i'm saying is as a neutral observer or did you know like a at someone who's gonna take in the sense eight tournament the rest of us being the highest states. The north carolina's the missions. We can't have fun. We can't feel good until the big giant has been slayed. Yes that's how i that's what i mean. By numbers of the field. It could happen. it's happened before obviously twenty fifteen obviously. Unlv back in the day. it's happened. I'm not saying shula. I'm not seeing him the trophy. I'm saying i'm going into this tournament saying until gonzaga loses. I'm not going to get excited. I'm not like st ohio state. Could keep when. I'm going to be like this is awesome. You gotta win. You gotta give yourself a chance you got. You know in two thousand fifteen. They didn't beat kentucky. So all you gotta do is survive. Maybe someone else beats them. And you beat the you know. So celebrate the weds. But i i i think this solidified for me that the tournament does not start until gonzaga loses in in in our like. You know what i'm saying. Yeah of course. Is that a fair assessment. I mean and i will say this like there is a little bit of a conversation with gonzaga because we did see. Probably the pinnacle of this team in december right. We would say that at least as far as the competition that they face the virginia game is probably the last time we had to see them. Quote unquote play at the peak of their powers. So as far as humbling and getting the team prepared to go win the games. I do wish that even if they don't lose a game in the sec tournament that gonzaga at least is pushing the half. Yes we have to see them lockdown and say. Hey we gotta get a bucket to kind of settle things down. Because i don't like it's almost unfair them a little bit where they have to go into the tournament. In this heightened push competition where teams basically man. I i don't know if it's going to matter like i. I hope not if you like. I said last week one hundred percent if we have a normal tournament i believe gonzaga will win it but with the whole big ten indianapolis push i. I'm i'm just saying if william mickey mouse villanova two thousand nine carolina thing happens with zag. I'm not surprised. yeah i'm to bet. All checks outdoor tournament. I would say. I'm around sixty nine percent. That's going to happen. it's just it. I just wanted to bring that up though that that we The more things change the more manage that happens. The insanity of everything going on the season games cancelled a solid stats to that. We had over fifteen hundred games canceled or postponed this year. Really wow all of that going on. We're right back where we started coming into the season. Look at garza was the national player of the year. Gonzagas number one. And i'll be damned at us coach k. New it just play the tournament. just bring everybody to. Let's talk about the baylor. Bears a little bit please. Yes we have to give props. I i have. I have ridiculed scott drew. I've just pointed out facts. We're hashtag just facts. Podcasts always have been one apologize for it. Yeah we don't. We don't talk about our feelings. We talk about facts. The facts word. Scott drew has never won a major conference championship ever tournament and regular season. He's never been to a final four. And i pointing that out because it's just an interesting stat. That is no more that it's done is a good coach stamp. It scott drew one the twenty thirteen in one thousand nine hundred and we offer got people forget he did that and we did not give him the credit for doing to your credit. Every time i say no hang on. I don't wanna keep bringing it up and it was nice because this game in west virginia. We talked about last week. That's a team. They're very good very good. Good final fourteen. In my opinion i am all is they can win. They could zagging is best game they gave baylor they breaking right off. I five yeah. It was the suggs game. taurus's achilles and then taped together. So i mean pretty ridiculous when you think about the fact that this baylor team on the road at west virginia title contending team they're getting pushed to the bring. This was talking about execution at the end of the game. It was beautiful. It was the big twelve and then later on in the day. I would watch you know. Acc georgia tech versus duke which is basically the offices execution of this But regardless i just want to say just from baylor standpoint the the fact that scott hockey cool and you could feel like the hurdle that they got over and the fact that this team got to celebrate something right. They've won so much but like we joked about. They haven't been able to celebrate anything other than like one win and now we got to go to the next game and now they finally got to do that. Scott you got to do that and Scott drew randomly enough. My parents twenty ten in puerto vallarta for their anniversary. Yup had dinner with scott. His wife They did not. Yeah my my mom and dad met scott is met him. Yeah at the pool and ended up having dinner with them that night. My mom told him all about duke. Cheating him in the twenty ten and regardless sky drew my parents the love scott drew and when he won. My mom was likely shadow. Scott you and say what a great guy is a great guy. Good guy anymore. He's a great guy. he's a winner. A winner kevin keys move over scott. Drew has a trophy case. That big trophy. Casey bill house. You can finally put some next to that. Nit championship man. He did it. So baylor's back though man. They look good to oklahoma state. Oklahoma state is like a little bit where there could be a world in which we get to the final four. Andy and i would not be shocked. And this might. Maybe i'm pregnant at the same this but like if it was gonzaga baylor illinois michigan in the final four. I would not be shocked. I would love that year. Wonder how state to win. Obviously but like listen. I want great basketball. And that's like objectively. That would be amazing. The just the fact that you said it right. We we started this year with a preconceived notion of gonzaga garza. Those have been checked. Yeah boxes have been checked the fact that we final four where the top teams are there that would be. I don't wanna put an asterisk on this. So i apologize to baylor. It comes across that. I'm not doing that to discuss your. I just wanna have a bigger picture conversation about regular season conference titles civically de because like we we we. We talked about this on the show around this time of year last couple years. Just how. they're sort of being devalued. because there's obviously march madness has become as big as it is. It like seems to get bigger every year where that that is the focal point. You talk to people about like whether coaches good or bad you always point to. I mean tom. Crean got fired at indiana. He won big ten titles. No one cared we. We don't care about ten you lost in the sweet sixteen to syracuse. Tom get the hell out of here. That was march becomes the measuring stick. Where When i was growing up certainly and i've made this point a million times. I apologize repeated myself but like the big ten title was a massive deal. Like if you want a big ten that that's cachet that matters and it still matters to the players. Obviously we saw bears players losing in their minds. We saw michigan tonight. Losing their minds but as a fantastic I feel like we were already headed towards with conference realignment with imbalance schedules when you have conferences with thirty eight teams that are they. You know you only play half the teams once. I feel like fans were kind of shrugging. Their shoulders at regular season. Titles for god's sakes you're conference the acc doesn't even like technically count. The radio like the the tournament so important that that's the only thing that technically quote unquote counts. That's do propaganda. Yes but then at same time you flip around your hand a trophy for the tournament team. That didn't even play a single second last year. So explain that to me but So i guess my my fears. That co vid given that the the circumstances of everything this year and all the imbalance schedules and how weird it is because i have a pack twelve update for bringing rain with with the pac twelve I'm worried that like this is of liked in for for this whole season is a bit about like let's just let's just play at nca tournament. All we care about and and now like we're we're using algorithms trying to figure out who won regular season conferences. And i'm just worried that like moving forward people who cares and asked put an ashtray. Some baylor put an asterik on michigan. And you know it. Complete fewer games in illinois illinois. Beat the hell out of michigan. Like after i kind of feel like we should maybe be champions. I don't know it used to be. I felt like a college basketball conversation. Used to be a regional conversation right. So there was these these large conversations that were happening in different pockets and then the tournament would come even back to when the in it matter the nit and the nc double as you would get invited and then the national conversation and then you can see like but we've already been having this conversation over here the whole time and i guess it does happen at a smaller level Did in the past but those arguments about like we'll wake forest won this many. Acc you know. Regular seasons or virginia tech has never won in the acc right right. All these types of things have seen They've gone from will use your front of conversation because we're all trying to have the national congress right. We're all trying to have the national championship conversation. All trying to have the final four conversation. Because we all think we're blue bloods all right. So we're supposed to be there because there's this misconception that it's an it's an equal playing field right and it's really not i mean we we know there's twelve teams that probably have a real shot at yes based on everything that's going on. That's why when butler happened. The first time it was it was shocking. He was like. Oh my god either six inches away from. They could have done it. They were one of those twelve teams. And that's amazing and general. What i'm saying is that college basketball everything now by march we judge everything by the final tally of the tournament. Yeah and that's why mark view we're still saying we can't coordinate him. We can't coordinate. James harden in the nba. Yeah that's that's the world we live in. I guess i didn't think about this. So you're you're making your point that Part of the reason was probably a bigger deal back in the days. Because you had to when you're champion to end the ncaa tournament so it was like yeah we wanted. We gotta go plans. Interminable was thinking of the biggies in nineteen eighty-one. I'm pretty sure and fact. Check me someone. i'm pretty sure that syracuse beat villanova in the championship game in the big east tournament and then villanova got invited to the double as in syracuse. Didn't really scandalous. So that is that is that what started jim behind being a crusty old man. I mean that was the origin story of his mouth. Just saying all right. Let's take a break Talk to andy katz and then we'll do some factual update and get out here. Quick to get word from our sponsor draftkings. Ufc two fifty nine. Is this weekend in his sure to be action. 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I don't know how many more times we're going to do this. Guy's hair shit when we made the brackets coming up soon. I don't think no disrespect andy. But i'm more interested in what the committee has to say about these teams and he does after the break. It comes out. So i don't know how many more times are we going to do this but we're going to enjoy it. We have them here. S Indicates is once again put out his tears. And we will. We will do the solid of making sure people understand that. These tears came out before. The games played on thursday night so oklahoma state for example lost at bay there. We'll maybe we'll ask him. We'll see did the does that affect it. Kansas latest stinker a stinker against utah at home. They made an appearance at tier three this week. I guess andy. I wanna start with with some of these newer teams. Because i'm looking at your tears this week. Final four sleeper tear. We got the arkansas razorbacks who you know. The the the diehards are saying they might belong up here. Yeah the must bus but the one that stood out to me and is yukon. Because you can't as a team that tate. And i definitely believe in we we we. Are we understand that. They are nine to james book. Night that they They pass the eye. Test is what i would say. They're on the bubble at this time last week. Now all of a sudden you're saying their final four sleeper. It's martin make the case. We agree with you. We just want you to make the case like you can't as a final four sleeper. Okay first of all. I saw them in person. I actually went to a game last saturday. i did. You come archaic game for westwood one so with my own eyes. All right and i saw james book night in rj call. And i'm not saying that book night is kemba shabazz napier. But he has the ability to carry this team far in our j. cole. The transfrom howard is sort of like a mini video johnson. Dating myself there. But he's a little bit of a microwave where he gets hot. And he's got heat check and he stocky in the two of them that one two punch on they can do some damage and they will be very difficult to contend with their defending on. And you know you guys like me to look for an outlier medina in that. Seven to eleven range of seating that could make deep on and they fit that profile. Yeah and and you traditionally. I mean when if the term it's always crazy obviously it's march madness but when term. It's get really really really crazy. You're like the hell is going on here. It seems to be a yukon turn you're gonna rises to the surface so far has all the makings of the dumbest tournament. We've ever seen just given the circumstances of everything so yeah that's there's that an anti i wanna ask you about another sleeper team. That's on this list. That i think fits what you just said about you. Kind of. that's purdue purdue has a lot of freshmen. That are very interesting guy. Nozaki was the first one that we were kind of intrigued by obviously. Because he's the big man on that team but obviously a lot of towel with purdue they'd never made a final four we remember the carson edwards game the last time we had iron So is there just to be clear. Produce made a final four just like. Yeah my my father's propaganda. Yes yes yes yes. Painters the show. We're talking about china's purdue he's never never never made a final hour s we know but anti what do you like about the bully makers and a chance for them to make a real run well first of all as we talk you. They're in the top four. They're getting a doubled by the big ten tournament crazy. You're in the best league in the country. And purdue was younger teams and for them to earn a double by that holds. That's pretty remarkable The combination of trayvon williams and evening. You've got one player whose neck and strong you know. Sorta either kofi coburn to some degree and then zach eating seven four because all sorts of natural problems that once you punch inside how many teams could match that and then janai. The i think is a special talent He is just scratching the surface with his abilities. And now sasha's devante. He was out three weeks kobe. He crimes Threes you get him. Go on modern making shots. I think there's a very dangerous team. They're committed defense and map. Banner very even steven number two. I never too low and they reflect his personality. I really like this team actually. I like the mad painter. Redemption tour de fallout last. You're talking about nausea harley and they love playing for him and i think it's been a great deal biggby even not even just this past year. I think like a bigger picture. Matte painter point. We should make that growing up in. Indiana purdue was always the little brother. they're always the program that could never do anything in march. It was always like that. They thought they make the sweet sixteen and they're celebrating was clear titus. That's like an. It's it's too to painters credit to the credit of what produce built is that. Now people trust purdue. Now you have andy katz is like peru's asleep like purdue could we haven't seen the make a final four this iteration of purdue but like yeah i. I think you deserve kudos for that. So i hate the word green with the anti someone i want to bring. I want to mention this any because this is this. Is the one bone the pick. I have with you sedate. Neier west coast guys. We are in famously. The only national college basketball podcast devotes a lot of time. Talking about the west coast and we are deep west coast. Routes you know that. It's not showing what i'm looking because we have our top three years. Go ahead okay. Well we have zag at the top and then the only other team that makes an appearance san diego state which let's be honest. You threw them on there. Because you you someone told you. They've won ten games in a row or something. You're like oh damn better throw them on there. You didn't actually wanna do that. Where's the pac twelve andy. The pac twelve. Well how come win. The big ten beats up on each other when the big twelve up on each other. Everyone's like that just shows how strong this league is when say Colorado loses to cal or something. It's an indictment on colorado. How come he doesn't get that benefit of the doubt. Okay two things. First of all on this show You guys not misleading. Kinda of me. Flack when i do a seat. Pretty high still. But they've had some moments that i've questioned you know they're sort of and they look great by the way in destroying stanford This week so that's a positive navy. They now are going to have some consistency. Ucla can only go so far. We knew that without chris. smith macron's a great job. The team that i probably could've and maybe should have put in here. Once again is oregon. Nah allman continues You know sort of Every year we wonder okay. How good are they going to be. We don't know who is you can come back and yet they're they are at the end. And the fact that oregon could end up being the best team in the league With a complete roster reshuffle and losing only payton pritchard Just says more about this program and they've had multiple posits to use and and chris warranties now having a great second half of the season so oregon could be the team even though i think. Us's more talented. But oregon could be the staying power. And i like colorado. I really like mckinley right. Everybody is like one of my favorite people have interviewed by i. It's hard it's hard selling the all in on colorado. Because your point just wanna be they lose to cowan washington that's concern on the buffaloes so there's four teams right anne in the pac twelve get in probably best case scenario four teams the because stanford had moments earlier in the season. Forget where to get. No you're not going to happen You know obviously before. Arizona took itself out you know. We're probably looking at them as a possibility. So yeah i mean to me. it's it's oriented yellow schools in colorado Another thing that stood out. I said this at the top when i was setting this up with you i wanna talk about. I'm sorry i should say that. Arizona state should have been in this group. Yeah i mean. They've had a completely disjointed sideways and With injuries and togo and bad for martin. Because he's one of my favorite players also that interview of last year. I mean if it if it's any consolation arizona state fans even if they had no adversity they still there. We're gonna find a way slept look. Don't pay. I wanna talk about arkansas. Andy because i i so. Arkansas is red hot first of all. They've won ten straight. Sec games they. They smoked alabama they. They're one loss in that. Stretch like the reason we say. Sec because they lost it oklahoma state but even there they were. They were hanging tough and they're playing very very well. They play great. Defense moses moody's star They check all the boxes. And yet you you put them at the final four sleeper in arkansas fan. I'm looking at this. And i'm saying why are they not a title contender. And yet i kind of agree with you. I can't articulate it like. I can't figure out why i don't believe in arkansas as much as i should. There's nothing wrong with them. They're very good. There's a something about it. I'm like i don't know if i see final four So can you articulate a for me. Why why is arkansas here. Three given how hot they are given that you can make an argument that they might be playing the best basketball se. they're just beat alabama. They're they're beating all the best teams in the sec. Right now why is arkansas. Not a final consider conservative experienced on. They don't have. And that. I think could rear its head deeper into the tournament You know outside of the sec. Big twelve challenge. They were really soft in the limited non conference more. Maybe would have been different if we had a normal non conference but they scheduled very light and I think that's also why they sort of slowly came upon the scene As they continue to build wins In the sec of the sec clearly is not as strong as we thought me. Tennessee's complete this functional show in terms of any kind of consistency so I wanted to include them but i wouldn't lead on them because they had to see a little bit more especially in the sec tournament. How do they handle. Act back to back the back on of situation An andy we have to ask now. We're didn't get to tier one. Because i think that is obviously the biggest news that we get illinois takes on michigan they send a statement with i o sitting on the bench. They blow out michigan. you know. We had bumped michigan up. We ahead of baylor. I think last weekend. That was the big news now. Illinois ahead of michigan we got four teams in tier one. A final four. Finally we got there How do you feel about michigan. Andy did you think about you. Know bumping him down or do you feel good enough. Leave them there well. Now after they did michigan state and winning the big ten regular season title. They're back to work there was pause for concern with the way they played against illinois. But you know you could argue. That will do for a snake. Your after being offered twenty three days. But i think about two hurdles. And i talked isaiah livers actually. After that. when he gets michigan there were two major hurdles. This team had a deal with was being offered. Twenty three days and they'd pass at eight plus because they came out of that and within three games was -sconsin one at ohio state and they get slapped bass by on. Okay how you respond you flip around couple of days later. You destroy rival michigan state. Nearly at this. Make the pickup gain. This weekend. atms. They will see how they handle that. But i mean to win the big ten regular season title when they weren't expecting to compete for it when you've got a ideally transfer point guard a wing from a team that finished the bottom of the acc ed mcmahon and hundred dickinson. Who arguably could be you know. One of the ten all americans first and second team and should be the freshman of the year in the big ten all that together and the intensity and passion which john howard has been coaching and the way these guys love him. I talked about this last week. If you remember. Mark said it wasn't fair to jane mark you because he defeated i wasn't i just think what you want our done. I mean it's so close. I mean we're a one and one a. millimeters. I'm leaning john right now with everything that andy. I'm right there with you. We accomplished in winning the best league in. So you're saying mark view if he would've played illinois without i would assume he would have lost by twenty four or more instead of twenty-three late. What was what. What does it no. It's not a slight on. It's not a slight on doin howard. It's like what if mark few doesn't win coach of the year this year. He what else do you want me to do. How am i not the of the year. I don't think okay. i'm all right before we let you go. We need your perspective on some. Because you're a man who who is uniquely qualified to weigh in on this issue. Jim remain a reporter for for saying that he tells reporter like you know paraphrase five to and you'd never played. I coach for forty five years for those who don't know eight years ago. Jim behind famously. Called out andy. Katz called him. He called him disloyal. So as someone who has better this reporter shoes do have word of advice on how to handle this jim. I'm called you out publicly like this. Okay first of all we have since prepared. That many years asked of course. We'll tell you this. If i can't there were some sick. He's those stories. How like there were people from world war two on like an island out in the south pacific. That didn't know the war ended bouquet. There were some syracuse fans that over your commands the war between us years. You still get these emails as if these syracuse fans were under snow can upstate new york and have never read any thing on the internet okay. They think it's still going on forty six over over. There's anyway number one so that's good. I'm six one so i was not called five to. I think it's a little different whether it's jim or anyone else. When you are literally like separated by a social distance sixteen versus a computer or you can actually feel it. You know you actually feel every other camera in person. Turn and look right at you. So that's different feeling than zoom. Yeah breakdown. Best thing is let it lie. Let the person bent need to throw your stats out. jump irc. Yeah at for the record. Mark for someone to your level all i know and this is my basketball memory for the rest of my life that in the second election day game i played with played in eight and twelve with president. Obama in the second time was and i told this story before sky pippen trail and me. Okay i looked them off three times in a row. Three pointer mid range jumper missed before obama pulled so i was two or three in the box score. Five points now. The only career in the store this is. I liked the white house. And he's thrown out real stats chicago when bay. He did do that to you. So you're saying you just like took it. You just sat there. That's the move. Because i actually don't remember that part like i i. Everyone remembers the clip. But like i never vast you. I don't remember you ever talking about like what did you do. Did you like kind of snake. Out of the room did you. Just sil- aren't ground. The funniest thing. If i can just tell you this it's funny now is it was a total to be honest kind of a softball question and innocuous question was that was the time when syracuse was going to the acc. If i'm not mistaken or they weren't gonna play each other anymore getting my years so that was the question like if he was going to schedule. Uconn yeah Whether series because they obviously have been rivals and all that so. That's what set the holding off obviously was past history from previous stories and espn that bubbled up. But yeah you're right. I mean he was upset about going to the acc at the end of the day so he just he lost it on you because oh my god anti. You're the best as always we appreciate time guys. Just you know the detente. The that was. I mean it was you know it was essentially like our thought and menachem begin. I mean yitzhak rabin we had a may be mixing on people here. I think that was carter anyway. No that was sadat an ara phonics. You've been don't love it anyway. Bottom line middle east. Peace was achieved in the bowels of the rising center went to the final. Four from non mistaken may be twenty thirteen. Mom is when we made peace in that elite eight in dc. He's like we go to andy. I'll be nice to you. Yeah yeah that's what it was. I can't be mad man syracuse fans. The war's over leave malone leave. Andy alone andy katz. We appreciate the time as always. Thanks talk about our friends at discover get one of. Here's something amazing discover matches all the cash back you earn on your credit card at the end of your first year automatically with no limit on how much you can earn. How amazing is that in fact. It's even more amazing because of all the places where discovers except where to. What are these places. You're asking yourself. I don't know ninety nine percent of the places in the united states to take credit cards so when it comes to discover get used to hearing yes more often learn more at discover dot com slash. Yes 2021 nelson report limitations apply. I don't know if you caught that tate. Andy katz said he snuck in there. That he's six foot one do you think that's. That's dating app heightened listed height. I've met any handful. I've stood next to him. And i i can't recall how tall i think. Six six hundred sixty six feet realize he was six three listed six always going especially. I feel like if you list yourself if you're six foot and you say you're six foot everyone's like oh you're five legs. I see what you're one hundred percent so you say six one six two you say six three because if you say sixty like he's six one can i say Here's my take on the on the debate team reporter thing I agree. I think he makes a lot of points. My cut off point for when you should be allowed to talk about basketball is if you scored. We'll say nine points will say and and you know why said to if i do 'cause five threes mugsy five five five three. Actually the time will come to be an all-star rate when five three you can be an nba all star. There's like the line if you don't know talking about giambi heim Greenberg mean when we brought up. Daniel is reporter After win in he said yes he reported that's been questioning his lineups all season and he was like i should be listening to a guy that's never played basketball his five foot two instead of me. Who's coach for forty five minutes. It's very you i mean. Kevin durant caught him blog. Boys i mean it's a very. It's a word we as i said. It's a great point. I think if you haven't scored nine points in division one basketball or more. Get the hell out yet to be three or taller. I i think if you're six forty nine points you that's that's my cut off point. Nice anything less than that. Get out of. Get out of here anything. You don't know anything all right. Pac twelve update. Here's a thanks. So i we were talking about conference regular season conference titles before we talked to andy and this is why i guess i i wanna bring this up earlier but i wonder say for pac twelve update as well. Here's your update standing. Tear the spanish right now as it stands today oregon is thirteen and four. Technically at the top by wind percentage. You is fourteen and five so one more win but also one more loss. You do the math. It comes out there level below. Ucla's thirteen and five. All three of these teams have one game left. So if oregon oregon place sunday at oregon state organ loses at oregon state. Usc and ucla play each other. They're playing at pauley. So usc wins. Oregon loses issue. That was a great game. We were at the game. Yeah it was a great game. Yeah If oregon loses. Usc wins. I believe at that point. Usc will win. But here's the here's here's the big but if if you see an oregon both win tate So it would be the same thing. We're usc is one more win. One more loss and they these two teams played each other one time. And you're see beat the absolute hell out of them. They they we. We watch this. We were sitting right here watching on the television right at right over there. That's the ones the cooking show on right now and tajdidi hit like four hundred. Three's out of the gate. And or they oregon off the floor. They bow raised them. So my question to you is. Are you aggrieved if you're you see if you beat. Ucla you sweep ucla. Who is the third best team. You beat oregon. you have more. Wins than oregon. And the only reason you don't get a piece of the pie is because oregon played fewer games than you. Are you agree. Because i looked at the pac twelve said we're going by win percentage this year so oregon. If they both went organs can have the better win percentage technically. But it's because he played two fewer games if oregon goes one one in those two hypothetical of games that you had to play to qualify. I mean like. I'm sure it was like six. They seven ano- yeah you won the pac twelve. I guess i don't know so. That's unbelievable. I'm i'm fired up on behalf of usc fans already. I think if you're a usc fan or a booster or someone that has any sort of sway laughlin lori of right. Now make the call. You know what i mean. We're talking to you. Yeah this one's for you mama. The year twenty nineteen make the call because at the end of the day. You're right. I mean this seems like commonsense can. We just mean ridiculous. Beat the snot out. One time they played. I mean like or at least at least at least at least to a double trophy where it's like. If one of you wins the pac twelve. We'll give you regular season and tournament at least do that as the tiebreaker. I mean that's just seems ridiculous to be so let's go back twelve update though now. I feel informed. Now you're now. You're locked in because a lot of these have listened villanova when the big east Alabama clinton sec. A longtime ago michigan won the big ten. We know What else am i forgetting. Ac who cares date. I guess here's the pac twelve man. It's a it's the power conference. We should all be locked in on the san diego state when the mountain west. That was next live. Oh well sorry to take it from san diego state west and i just want to point this out so i do not have word yet whether they have hung a banner names lee. Last year we went to a game Late february after senior stated at the mountain west our last college basketball was the last one we saw together. At least i saw top and we went to the nation this year. I guess the last one we saw pre pre pierre in the before time. And then i saw the top and dump between his legs in dayton. You'd always thinking. Winston hit his step back on ohio states face. Now's leschi missile. Abc like ad obviously but like like before covid. So that's what i was gone there. You're Senators say last year winston west and we go to this game after they clinched and we noticed that they had already abandoned. The said mountain needed it and click right then and there were like. This is why the wheels fall off because if you remember Saint augustine started like twenty two now and then they started playing particularly well and the game we were at they win but they were down you want but it was colorado state or something i think it was colorado anyway and we. We made the comment to each other. Like i mean. You can't hang a banner before the season's over that's postseason yet. Even the show the the the student's section down there we talk to them about and they even seemed very. What is that way. What programs do yeah. No honestly like you know the the best programs they get five years later like. Oh yeah. that's right. We did win. That thing fibers So anyway no word on whether they've hung a banner yet but they did cut down nets state and this is the cutler this they cut down there. Yeah matt mitchell in the practice gym. Because i think they went on the road i think they won at unlv to clinch and then they come just love celebrating. You know what i mean like. They just might be celebrate. A final four celebrate a national championship. But don't be tom. Green losing to ohio state at home. And it's cutty hope and act like i'm going to get any of those things that's true. This and celebrate celebrate. Blake cut cut cut down nets but like. I don't think you know. I don't think banner the only time you cut down nets if you clinch home. That's the rule you can't what is. How would you remember when tom green did this They clinched on the road. Yes so then. They're like win. The next game against ohio state in ohio state wins an assembly hall and tom greenslade. You know what we're going to cut down. Its new yeah dude. You lost like now. We're the saddest thing ever said the san diego state. I don't know man andy. Katz hasn't been vinyl four sleeper tear. Their hot they are hot. I'll give them that. I had them close to their knocking on the door. My fraud power mad malachi. I would be much more inclined to believe in. I just hate that. We got to get this out and we got to get this out of san diego state system in we gotta we gotta. We gotta talk to dutch about this. You can't there are rules smokey. This isn't nam. Also there's this a judge has cited with espn and the arizona vs espn feud Where espn was asking that arizona make the nose of allegations public arizona. Got the nose of allegations as you remember. Tate released the arizona board of regents argued that releasing the noaa would what was. What was the Not in the state's best interest the best. the best. what does that. We've seen this year on the state's best interests so we're not gonna do it. Yeah and espn is like public university. Freedom of information act. Release the tapes and arizona's like how about you. Release the take a lot of finger pointing and the judge decided you're out of order. The judge ultimately decided to. Arizona has to release the notice of allegations. So there's no time line. Apparently i'm guessing. I'm gonna take a huge swing here and guess what's in these notice validations. It's not good for zona. it's not good. I means not good. Who guess who's holding on by you know less of a threat. I mean sean. Or archie. Point i mean the miller brothers if they survive into next year i think we have to give them kudos at this point. Especially sean i mean. I think many more. How many more shots this man shot at him and he just keeps the teflon show. I think we're going to look up in like five years and like arches coaching at uc riverside. Shaun's at uc irvine. And they just have no let me just did think about northridge with godfrey sean. Man damon stoudamire pacific. You got lorenzo romar mick cronin's. Ucla said coached people figured that. Very big phone calls to get in that conference. I mean there there's a chance A conference My last note is this arizona state tonight got they look good out of the gate at colorado and tad boyle had call. Timeout lost his mind on his team and colorado picked it up and colorado ended up winning the game. But going into this game so so this is going into this game. I don't know where it stands now but going into this game t according to vegas insider dot com which listen name sounds prestigous. Sounds good to me. House prestigious according to vegas insider dot com. The future odds they list all the national championship odds of these teams. Winning national change. Arizona was still on the board at arizona. i'm sorry arizona state was still on the board at sixty six to one. Now if you need a frame of reference because you're not a gambler. I'm not a gambler. So if you're someone that doesn't game you're like what does that even mean. Gimme gimme frame of reference of west sixty. Six one means a first of all arizona. State was ten and eleven going into night there now. Tin twelve sixty six to one puts them at the same level as michigan state. Who is hot in his going to maybe sneak into the term that we think. I don't know it was just a lot to shake out there. Also sixty six to one on vegas insider dot com is better than the following program. State the duke blue devils. Yep the kentucky wildcats the syracuse orange. And are you sitting down because this is in sade. Don't say north carolina. okay. The clemson tigers arizona state on vegas insider dot com has better odds to win the national championship. In the clemson tigers. There may be an argument to be made that clemson and brad brownell in general are probably the most disrespected group in college basketball season. And they had this moment in time. Where you know. They beat north carolina at home. Kind of blow them out and there was some you know heads turn like what's going on a clemson you and i even talked about clemson. About how the great. Their defense was and similar. Virginia that we've seen in the past. They actually have a legit shot to mega sweet sixteen. Yup and once you get this team as we know as every analyst knows anything could happen. So that's insane to me. Also state is ten ten and twelve. Now it has no sense at arizona. State is the team that they are this year on. Now it makes no sense. I should mention. I dunno vegas insider. I don't know how credible witnesses but if you search college basketball futures i just like search casual futures. It was the thing. Come up at the top so they got a good. Seo they're paying they're doing something yeah. There was something right google out. So there you go. Arizona state not dead yet all arizona state has to do to make it into the tournament. Tate is do something. They've literally not done all year. Which is win. Four games in a row if they can do that if they can just went four games in a row for the first time all year. They're in and then they can get in. All they have to do then is can you not one more than three games in a row. And we're not. We're counting on the newington in a row. Now i don't know if you watch them play. I mean bobby. Hurley pulled rimi martin out of the game his senior point guard and it looked like they were just disgusted with each other. You know not the only about body language but it doesn't look at team that's clicking. That's like coming together right now to make a run to say the least but anyway i wanna burn your money go through a better odds and clemson. I guess that's that's the that's what clemson. How does gambling work by the way where like some people are listening to this right now. And they're like oh that's a good value. I should put money on clinton. Because like i don't this is why i don't gamble because like people there are people that would put twenty s and i get more. I understand that. But i understand. I'm saying i don't understand the mindset where you're like ooh clemson's a good value. I should put like a thousand dollars clemson just in case because if they don't win and that's the same as putting a thousand dollars on chicago state right. Yeah i mean. I don't understand like it's the yourself on the back for like you know like the idea of like if it does rate and if it than i am lake unbelievably. I was always confused. Going on when we we'd go on sale and stuff the factor there like what what are good value bets in the title. I was like if. I'm betting on the national championship this year. I'm not putting any money on any team other thing. 'cause i don't understand. Yeah that's the team. I think's gonna win. I think they should. They're they're going to win. Why would i put one kid gaskin zag fifteen two one at the start of the season so they were not the favorites. I think kansas was actually the favourite strangely enough. Something weird one of the season. I can't remember exactly who it was. Maybe baylor was. I can't remember bugging saga. Scott him fifteen two one and now you know. Obviously that's that's not even close to what it s so there's some value there. Yeah there's some value. Good good as clemson is flaming out in the state. Doesn't make the turn. Yeah you what what would you put your money on. Clemson clemson's losing in the second. But i got a good value. I mean i had a partly in the nba finals. That have lebron. James had a triple double in the last game. I would have made fifteen hundred dollars. What lebron james. He ended up with like thirty nine. Nine that's what it is just a bunch of bs your bed super bowl than you thought you hit that you didn't hit a nose. Dive left was man. God it was something. Like if you didn't tonio brown score touchdown but then it was also like. I don't know but they had to have over one hundred and fifty yard. I was died last before the biggest gas sports that like i just go and just put in perhaps and then i see what hits and then a lot of times i forget what was i even owned by the whole thing. It's ridiculous. this is way too much gambling. Talk shadows collazo. Yeah i get the marquette jersey on and I wanted to shout at our guide. Dj carton A man a man who basically cursed north carolina and the dino owns us in the dean does but had a big dunk. Probably one of the best dunks we've seen. Gray duncan and then did you know on top of your head. You know that celebration. And i don't know i flagged with the marquette jersey actually just shat out someone for marquette's dj card and you got the you got the shutout today dj carton. Yeah he's great. He's a great dunker a former buckeye. I wish wish you would've stuck around. But also like i think he made the right decision to try really stayed did he wouldn't have come with marquette and we've yet by two thousand eight hundred but i don't know how we would fit in out of state this year 'cause it's We got a ton of talent to like. I'm not that's not me saying how awesome i think we are but Yeah i made the right decision. I think he's getting more opportunities. Marcus to shame. They kinda suck. But we'll always have the dean dome blogs I wanna shout out. What i have your. Oh my that was it Oh i wanna shout on my career because there's there this today that they just want to like you know yes. Let this why. I'm disgusted by what i'm seeing coming out of. South bend apparently walking off the floor. Notre dame loses the other day There's there's a chance from the student's section fire. Mike berry and he was asked about in the press conference and he does his best to deflect. 'cause he's mike bray and he's cool. He's gonna lose his coaching american gun. And i just want to say calm down notre dame fans call first of all. It's not about you. you're in the state of indiana. We're focused on archie. Miller right now. All right we have our own. We have a crisis a coaching crisis. Going on right now. That quit trying to get into coaching crisis. Table state of indian. All right wait your turn. If you even if you have a problem shut up shut up your the fourth best program in the state of indiana bothers respected it. You don't hear butter fans talking about jordan. Not having a great year. Beat the shit out of villanova came to town right so other fans. No this is not. it's indiana's time. They figure that out. Look out listening to four or five years of all george socks like maybe we'll revisit but like come on we know our place notre dame fans shut up one to the only reason any of you give a single shit about noting basketball is because mike bray made you give a shit. Yes so understand that How dare you number three. I don't like it number four. It's wrong number five. Shut up and that's it. And i just wanna leave it at that like mike breaking lose every game next year and he should. He should be the coach at notre. He should be the lifetime contract all four hundred ninety seven people in that building defense. Yeah hold on calls but they call themselves. What are you doing. You have maui coming up. Yeah van made the maui. Invitational yawn in yup. He has a chance to go back. This is the season that we throw away. Yup this is the season where we don't. It doesn't even count coach k.'s. Not even acknowledging. It doesn't count throw it away doesn't count don't ever don't you ever don't you ever at mike bray. We love you coach. This is a safe space will always be welcome here. We would see in maui. We'll see in maui. We do love you. You went to back to back. League dates people. Forget talking about what is happening. What about zach august. Five years ago he wants to get five. Years is a long time. But also it's not. It's not your notre dame dude like you're notre dame basketball your joke your joke without mike bray you without my break beat. Ucla one time and digger. Phelps waived as highlighted on television coordinates. All anybody cares about you. You have someone on tv like enjoy the give ya find. The brand plays ridiculous. Come on it's absolutely ridiculous. So i'm discuss about. Oh shut up. Colleague espy we. We've got a shadow countless towards him. Sale it sucks. I have no other commentaries sucks. It's not good and it's not fun either. Illinois of seven big east title in the last eight years colin. Gillespie obviously a pivotal piece to villanova basketball. And you think about this iteration of this team is that's the guy you think of usually so You know we're gonna miscount. Gillespie there's a chance he could come back to come back. Yep but regardless. He's been a great for this for his whole career. Villanova shut out. He's been awesome and That sucks it's it's like you know when you're a senior obviously it gets amplified and there's never a good time deterioration l. but apparently especially When you are a senior especially when there was no tournament last year yup back to back tournaments and be on a team like villanova program. Villanova's won two national titles in recent years and a program that you know if you get to the tournament. That's what i mean. Yeah you're you're you're in countless. Be shoes and you're like all right. I'm the point guard villanova. That means i am going to have a chance to compete for national title and have your last two tournament chances taken away. It's so odd to see a shout. Thinking of congress be is that it should we do picks what games are coming up. We gotta do carolina fair. What we're we're or give us Give us a well. How do you feel what what what are we going to do. As a win to get back on the bubble as they say so. This is all setting up for duke to kind of get back into good graces of america by getting this win at the dean dome. I have a deep deep deep deep hope that north carolina just like louisville did can sweep duke this year. If there's any year to sweep do this is the year to do it. He did at the zion. Was there people give this swept them but then you play them. They see tournament. You lost that game right. So let's sweep them clean. Let's avoid them and they see tournament and let's move on with their lives. All we can ask zoe. Because that's all. I can hope for This north carolina team this duke team. They're not good. Titus both lost their last. Two games You know they both of them. Were trying to throw the game before so they could get like you know. We're gonna come back. So i don't know what's going to happen. I don't like it as the dean dome as much as a lot of people would say. Why why would i like that. It just seems like all all signs point to carolina needs this win and this team has showed more who needs it. More season is over. it is Less i mean. I never will believe k's off. You know not gonna make the tournament until i actually see the bracket come out but right now they have no chance in. My opinion has an eighty seven percent. Georgia tech what are the. What did the janus pan be an argument for the needed. It more that if maybe they're back in that is gonna help beating crappy team going to help get him out of here go home. Take a break cave. Take a break so carolina's gonna win your heart of hearts. Yes yes but i think it it. The only reason. I say that it was because last year. They should have won last year. We all remember the air ball that turned into a game winning shot down. I mean so. I remember i remember. I remember at the bar with and You brian tucker is there with. I mean true carolina family. We were devastated. And you were there. You were the same smile on your face. The exact same smile i remember. I remember like not even trying to be a dick. I was like he's gonna happen. You guys are doing this left and you. I can't believe believe him back. I remember looking at you like mark. You don't know generally was not trying to be a dick. I was like. Oh my god this is going to be so fun. And i yeah. Let's let's go. it's like someone just picked up a puppy and drop kick it across the bar the way everyone acted. It will never be as bad as austin rivers. I was at that game in the words of michael wilpon and i was sitting literally shot. I just collapsed. I mean i could. I mean dad never heard the silence of a room like that. Let's hope for. Not that all all in solidarity. I'll pick north carolina's well to win. How much. I believe that i mean it does do do other. Oh illinois ohio state. i think ohio state's gonna win. Not because they're better think like it just setting up for illinois Right hopefully tell their ohio state really knew lots three in a row at ohio state. I feel like this is just. We've seen this pattern before t. The team gets hot. yeah they get. They fly too close to the sun. Too excited we have to know what it is. I know what it is. Because i experienced the two weeks ago in michigan beat ohio state columbus. So i feel like that's that's to that's on right before. Do carolina think. I felt that after the maui matteo in texas to the carolinas the best. And then we'll throw out indiana purdue. I just realized their plans to indiana fans. If you were there for the last four years you do not go to one tournament and have not be pretty not not so. If you're and i feel like i feel like that's the reason i this is the time indian is gonna win because it's like everyone's just giving up and they don't care and this is the time they pull off the win and they're like tent now. I had to care now. Are we back our. We got him. I think i do have to lose his game. I think it's over. I think so. It's a must win or can't lose and think it's kamloops You can't lose all right. That's the show voicemail number three zero two four seven zero eight two eight three calls this weekend. If you're the nfl you're watching. Reggie miller lose again to purdue if you're a duke fan please call illinois fans if You know i. I'm not gonna be. I'm not gonna have their bravado. I did in michigan where. I was like michigan fans. Suck at. Call me when you lose. I've learned my lesson. So i'm not gonna call you out and say you definitely gonna lose but let's be honest you and i both know that You're feeling yourself a little too much. Yeah one of the so just have the number ready call again. We'll we'll we'll take it from there so guys next week.

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Titus & Tates Guide to the College Basketball Galaxy

Titus & Tate

1:16:58 hr | 3 months ago

Titus & Tates Guide to the College Basketball Galaxy

"Today's episode of titus and take college basketball is in the driver seat. Uh-huh the sports world tape and we cannot be more excited about this. Football's done two super bowls over. Congratulations to tom. Brady blah blah blog. Oh who cares boring thrown away because it is our time tate. The time is now we are we we we college basketball people have taken the steering wheel said give it to us for the next two months. Thank you finally we have. We had no march. Madness is year We have been waiting patiently. It's been a long cold harsh winter but it felt like a new day as soon as the super bowl was over. I saw the bright lights and new dawn. It's college passed. So here's what we're doing. Today we're doing a primer because Let's be honest. a lot of you. Listening to this have not watched a second college basketball. It's okay it's not your don't feel bad. We're not claiming you listen. You're gonna make excuses. You're going to say it's been a weird year by what you watch any confidence to begin with. Just what you listen to our show. Listen thousand the question is are you watching zion in the abuse. So we doing a primer. If you will a guide to if you're trying to jump in because there are a lot of people take a lot of people that are like what do i do with my time. Trey songz dive in. What do i do with my gambling dollars. Now i'll tell you what you do you do you throw at college basketball's away but where do i start. You start right here. We're going to do a show that get you up to speed. Get you to where you can. You can listen to this and starting tomorrow you can jump into college basketball landscape and figure it out so apologies for those of you that have been falling the entire way. We're we're going to do good guys and bad guys at the end. We're still going to get all that. But we're gonna we're gonna i get to Basically a recap basically Where where we where are we. Now where are we going. That's what we're doing today. Yeah this is three phases of titus and this is the tightest tate guide to the college. Basketball galaxy is going to be a fun time. We'll let you know where everybody is all the players in our universe and let's get going all that coming up but i i can't the joan tate I wanna plug the club. Show foundation scholarship. We did it last year. We're doing this year. I've already plugged on the show before but again we've got to do again. We got a new audience here. So i'm putting out the call We are giving away fifteen thousand dollars scholarship to a division one basketball walk on. So if you're listening to this and you're walk on. Please apply for the scholarship and go to club. Julian foundation dot org slash apply And you can apply that way if you are listening to this. You're not a division one basketball walk on reach out the one who is reach out to somebody who is we just want. I want the word out there. I've already gotten a handful of applications. I'd by the way. I do not decide the winner. I wanna make that clear. I don't want people to think that. I do ask one last year exactly. We have a committee. It's all made up of former walk on from all over the country various levels too. So it's not just like a bunch of blueblood guys guys that played at tiny schools we got guys that played it at a big schools And they are the ones decide. The winner And we've already got a couple of applications so if that's all we get if we only end up getting like you know handful that's fine by me. I don't care i'm not going to put a gun to someone's head and say you must apply for this. My fear tate is that not enough people know about like there are a lot of guys out there that would be like. Oh my god. I read. That sounds awesome so I am putting it in the hands of our listeners. Please help spread the word. And and that's that so. I just want to plug that this is your bad guy move. You know we're gonna get to that end of the episode. We're gonna do good guy bad guy but this is titus bagai the week there you go. So there's that that's that's that's part. One of where with college basketball is the scholarship is is still on so now. Let's talk about the rest of of college basketball landscape Again we're we're we apologize to those. Who are the diehards those of you. That have been in this and it's going to be a lot of repetitive. But that's what this show is. If is this show anything but repetitive. But that's what most shows are familiar. So let's do is a bit confused by that by the way that you you hear criticisms of beds where it's like every song sounds the same. I mean what did you do. You want to start making country music because the second they do that like diverse. Don't all right so let's talk. Let's talk college. Basketball primer Big picture where are we what. What are some storylines. I think we obviously have to start with with corona virus with with covert impact at that has college basketball. last year. the tournament was cancelled college. Basketball's the only sport to my knowledge. The only team sport to have. It's it's one big champion event Canceled not postponed. District canceled every other north american sport. Figured it out. They host bubbled it up. They just play play through there. Really what what coronavirus The ones that fell on the sword. We said no. Hey there was basically just the. The calendar just didn't work out in our favor and we had no tournament So you know we're looking ahead now and The the the the pandemic not going away but college basketball's back or we're going to have a tournament eight. That's what's on people's minds in the answers. Definitively yes yes officially started the year. We had one hundred storylines into the season. We said you know you know this could happen. That may happen. Watch for this. But the number one thing we said there will be an incredibly tournament but we said that with hesitate. We didn't know if that was a slight question. Mark on the and just kind of like trailed off as we said that but now we officially. No it's going to be in indiana. It's going to go back to. You know the home state of basketball. The place where you know basketball belongs. And i think you know you and i joke about this. We've had some episodes during the pandemic about the war on college. Basketball as i sit in the fox sports room right now. There is a war on college. Basketball you know. An i know at rudy. Gobert disgusts me to my corey. Grab the mic. The world shuts down college. Basketball shuts down over bear never played in college. Yes and he's think think about it. It goes all the way to the top But since we've been trying to deal with the fallout and covert is obviously a big part of this And i think a lot of people have tuned out because they think you know all the postponements relations instantly dot com has a a page that has all the updates of every game that's postponed or canceled throughout the entire season. So that's been the story. You have to check every single day to see if the game that you wanted to watch is actually going to happen. I think the biggest game that didn't happen. Obviously the game. That america wanted to see which is baylor gonzaga in indianapolis you were going to be at the game. I was at the really there. Air andrey shaking the gates fell that the game Which actually turned out to be a blessing in disguise. Because maybe now. A lot of people disagree teaser. Now a lotta people will disagree. I still would have liked to see bather. Gonzaga play the regular season game duh. I want more good basketball. But you know from a storyline perspective. You don't want to the the the big finished to happen in in episode three. You want it to happen at the season finale rate. So that's we preserve that zagreb both undefeated so that's good Corona virus has a whole those so you mentioned games being delayed games being postponed games. Bit like all the the scheduling is all over the place. You got teams. That are long pauses like xavier. I have i. I have no idea basketball still exist. They've been on so many krona virus causes baylor The one of the teams that's undefeated one of the second team in country just announced that they're not playing a handful of games coming up michigan. The third ranked team in the country has been on pause for a while Texas the team. That won the maui. Bump that we you and i both believe in at the start of the year could make a real run to the final four. They've lost three in a row and chaka smart has been dealing with over. Tell the people that have been watching football this whole time and having been plugged in what is it been like Because as you said the the football just got to charge right through Basketball not as smooth will say. It is not quite a smooth. What does the experience been like an you from your perspective being a college basketball fan. Throw this college basketball. The reason why we feel the The effects of this so much more is because college basketball environment. It's an experience. There there is so much that goes into a beyond the actual physical act of basketball read. There's so much pageantry around the sports so a lot of that is missing which feels very off. But then you have guys like jim boeheim who've been around the game forever and he's making the you know the you know who says we need the fans. Were great at home without them then. You have the blue bloods that you know. Get the cameron crazies. For example red illinois blows out. Do start of the year you know. They beat them by fifteen worse loss for coach k. At home and that happens without the crazies there and coach k. You know he's not going to blame. You know the fact that they don't have the crazies but we all know that has some sort of impact. Some sort of those types of things are strange right now having the pageantry not having the fans in the fact that the basketball is happening. I mean we were there in nashville at the maui invitation weird and it's like these games happen it feels real. You're in it you're locked in. Everyone's focused the refs are locked in the coaches are locked in. It feels real. You know but then you can take a step back for a second. You peel back. And it's empty. But then it hits the game winner at the buzzer. There's no sense no sound and for me so yeah it has been i. I would describe it as like when when your mom you're in the grocery store and you really want fruit loops and then your mom is like. We're not getting the fruit loops. But i will get this and she grabs the generic cereal. Then you're eating and you're you're you're eating generic cereal. You're asking yourself the question of like. Is this still good. it's better. is this better than nothing in the enters. Yes but it's not quite the fruit loops. But also it's like your mom's like you know like it fine if you don't if you don't like this ever so materialistic you really need the other point i want to make about corona virus is if you're new to college but if you're diving in right now good luck figuring out protocols figuring out that has gone completely out the window and i don. I don't say this is like schools. Don't have protocols. they still do. Conference is still do have no clue what they are very independent. They are all over the place. Boston college almost played a game with four players. But then this. North carolina miami dade. It's pause right now to my understanding michigan. Men's basketball team has zero positive cases within the men's bass at the holyoke kid. Athletic department can hawes. Yeah but then. There's like a weird thing where like a women's basketball teams coming back with the kids. So my point is good luck like i. I can't explain it to you. We do this for a living. And i have no idea as you said you just kind of pull up your phone and you hit refresh on the slate of games today and you're like all right. What are we getting today. I have no idea. That's been very frustrating. And there's obviously a concern moving forward. The tournament's going to happen we know that for we know that I mean i'm not even saying this is a joke in all honesty. Cova just spikes again through the roof in this country ninja. I think it's been clear that they're just gonna chug allow plow through yet and they're gonna find a way so that is definitely happening. The concern has now been my god like the way. All these programs are pausing for for reasons that are like like another great example kate cunningham who who might be the number one pick in the nba draft Missed a few games for oklahoma state because of covid protocols and then the as they're explained to you to to the viewers that this is why he's not playing. They plan to him sitting on the bench me. I'm like. I'm not a scientist. I don't know what the hell's going on but it like he should be able to player in the nba. Kind of doing the same had the same thing. Yeah yeah But that's where we found ourselves is is you long ago like i remember. When when spor started coming back they would be like all right. We have positive tests where we don't have positive tests and that was like kind of the announcements that came out of this stuff the language the waters have been muddied so much i think baylor's announcement was even like covert protocol something. They won't say guys tested positive for dinner. What they're just kind of like we. We need to reconfigure. And you're like what reassess. What does that we have. Where where are we going. And that's definitely been frustrating. So as pertains then say tournament. That is where the concern would lie. Tate is is that what happens when these muddied waters start flowing to indianapolis and there's just some mud in the water in the tournament's about to start and all the sudden gonzaga needs to be on pause for four days. And i don't know i don't know what the hypothetical is. But that's the fears that there's a lot of ways this could go conference tournaments. Yeah that's the real cova test right. No pun intended there but like if the conference tournaments happen without a hitch and the teams go and play. And there's no issues and everyone's sitting there test to mako medical in my hometown of interest in north carolina. And they're handling business and everything's going well. Fingers crossed all things all signs point to good but the problem is if team say. Hey i'm been thinking about this and want to win the championship. And i have spent three weeks in indianapolis in a hotel room locked up. Basically you know in a controlled environment. There is no bubble in college basketball. We should say that is a controlled environment. So some teams there has been speculation. That a team that you know. Let's say i wha for example. That's the big ten team. They're fine to go. Because the the big tournaments in indianapolis we go. We go there with a real tournament is we. We play the big ten tournament and then we play the real tournament. That's fine but there's some other schools per se. Say why would i risk putting myself in a different controlled environment to then have the risk of not being able to go to the main controlled environments alert. There's gonna be a lot of shuffling the deck. I feel like there's going to be a lot of teams trying to put themselves in the position to be. Yeah i'll vote apple gonna play. I want to flush that point out more because The the reason because this is this is a talking point. That's popped up in college basketball last couple weeks. It's going to continue to be a discussion point of these. These conference tournaments so what happened is the locked in dates. The march madness is going to happen on these days. It's gonna start playing games. Are the eighteenth The but the first round starts in earnest on the nineteenth This is a problem because selection. Sunday is on the fourteenth. I believe i believe it's sunday the fourteenth If not the point still stands where the ncaa's protocol for the ncaa tournament is that you have to have seven consecutive days of of negative testing but that that window will overlap with the ends of these conference tournaments. So if you're a team. That's playing in the semifinals or championship. Game of conference tournament. You've already started your testing window testing win for the tournament. Basically what's happening is instead of being at home in your campus in a controlled environment. You are now. There's the risk of Say ohio state has played purdue in the big ten title game and we get revenge on because we have a full team. Now ohio state going into that big ten title game would have to be like cross your fingers that you don't get it from purdue and listen. I'm not telling you you know you're you might be listening to this saying like come on. What are the chances that's going to happen. I don't know. I don't know what the that's that's been the case with corona virus the last eleven months in every facet of society microcosm about everything but some people are like It's not really a risk. Just do it. Other people like whoa. That's crazy because like what if we do everything right. We go to the big ten tournament. We get it from nebraska. He's like not even gonna make the tournament the now the sudden were we might need. The waters are muddy. For whether we can you know all of these things are are being talked about and the solution and a lot of people's is not a majority but some people's eyes is let's just does. This avoided altogether as soon as the regular season ends. We take that one week buffer. We stay a campus and practice and then we hit the ground running for the nca tournament. All right so enough about we got that out of the way. Let's talk about like what what is actually happening on the core team. What are the narratives. there too. It's it's it's gonzaga. And baylor are distancing themselves from the field and the blueblood suck those are the two things if if your program college basketball show and you don't have any content talk about you talk about one of those you talk about. How bad the blue bloods are or are you talking about how dominant ga- gonzaga baylor Which one you. The mark. Few scotch roof or at home that are casual. Said that ill blood your. Where do you want to start with this. I'll start with an age old question that you asked me Early on our friendship and you looked at me. Dead in the said is scott. Drew a coach and You know the internet was abuzz with this you you have stayed on this corner for quite some time and i think the question this year is got you. A good coach has been answered. And i think it's unequivocally yes and i think You know we should get into this. But i think scotch over has always been sort of disregarded and whatever way he's always been you know he was his name would come up and it's kind scoffed at your like really scotch who's going to be the guy you throw up. And he was had not the best reputation because remember like recruits that he brought in early on at five years ago or not even that far back there like you mentioned sketchers name in college basketball circles. Everyone laughs falls off. Hardly outrun that reputation just went just wednesday be pointing. Al davis told us district wouldn't baby takes and that's where we are in. Since two thousand twelve scott drew was two and one against calipari two and one against denominated oregon. And he's one is lone. Matchups against sean millard arizona and tommaso. Who gave you that stat. The s idea baylor. That's what i'm saying. That's what i'm saying. I'm fired up so here. it is. Scotch rue the the real crux of the conversation. Why do we care about scott. Everyone you know we're talking about. This is a good coach whereas the marker that he needs to get to and the markers simple is the final four right and Yeah on a big picture scale. He said it would help. Take baylor to the next level perception. Wise and i think that's where we are with the baylor bears. The baylor bears are great basketball program. What scott drew's been able to do there is honestly a thirty for thirty type story. That what he walked into the early was wasn't it. They talked about the scandal. I mean they. They've done david. I literally thirty for thirty about how he got there in the first place but yeah but it starts this year with the historic season this is where they piggyback off that They pick up right here and scotch ru You know the the perception of him has always been wrong I think earlier harsh probably is the right word. Yeah and this is the year. This is the time where he can kind of you know. Make that turn. Make that pivot into be one of the top coaches in the game. We were when we talk about baylor being better than everybody. I i wanna make it clear that like i. I the rubric. That i've been going off over the the template i've been using its two thousand five when illinois and north carolina felt like they were miles better than the rest of everyone had that circle. It's going to be illinois. Carolina goldsman ended up being that even illinois had had a scare along the way against arizona carolina. Wins obviously So that to me is is the the standard of lake we've been here before But as as the season continues to play out not been here before this. This is so much that the divide between dagon. Baylor is so much larger in my mind. I don't know i. I didn't have a podcast to college basketball. Podcast in two thousand five. But i it is unbelievable it is my over talking about. We're not saying it's definitely going to be them in the championship game. But wh what does the word you would use. If if i mean one of them getting upset isn't it would be pretty surprising honestly. Yeah but don't be shocked one of them's definitely going to be in the in the championship game. Yes like it would be. It would be the level of virginia losing by twenty two you. Nbc of of shocking. To me and that sounds stupid and and there are a lot of people that gamble for living there. Like you're more on you don't understand odds work or march madness. Anything can happen. Maybe that's true. I've watched i've watched baseball all season. I've watched all these other teams all season. My alma mater is one of the teams that is considered a challenger to to this dichotomy of gonzaga baylor versus the field. And we're not as good as and failure dude. They're so good. you know. there's a lot of talk about it. But i rightfully so i if feels to me like in the same way that i remember when trae young was playing college basketball and we can talk a ton about trae. Young people casuals. We'll call them Would roll their eyes. Like what are we talking. What what what. What the hell with this guy again. Why are we talking about this guy so much. And it's like dude. The guy is leading. The country in scoring and assists was thirty and ten. We've never seen anything like this. And that's how i feel about this like it's going to get exhausting talking about gonzaga and baylor better everyone. But it's also we've never seen like this and that's a phrase saying college basketball is we've never seen like this but that's why we'll basketball's because That's pretty much always the case. There's always something every year like. I've never seen it like this and you know we don't get many win win situations you know in sports in general especially in college basketball but gonzaga talking about programs where they are and as you climb the the echelons of where it means to be. One of the top programs like gonzaga when they made the final four and they made the title game in two twenty seventeen. They hopped into this different. You know they. They hopped into the carolina kentucky because recruiting the they have jalen who comes in and really had more in these guys and they're just like unbelievable talents that they now not kentucky underdog trying to get the three star to exact five stars somehow. So what's the next step. We now win the title right. That could happen this year that they take the now we are here. We have finally arrived. You like suck it. Take it like we are here you know. I mean seriously. That's what it feels like. I'm sure if mark view after all these years but scott drew in the same vein. They make the jump just like in twenty seven that baylor made and they get in the final four right and then they are now jumped up that other echelon they get the recruits. There's no scott truce cheater because he gets these recruits because they just made sure we pointed out this country as to my knowledge like the the guys at the best players on the team or not the dollars. All american no. He's he's not winning mcdonald america's right now so that's what i'm saying but you make that jump. They can both make that leap this year and now we have baylor program that gets revered in a different light. Perception changes gonzaga is now a part of the michigan state. North carolina duke class for real villanova. We legitimately bring them into the fold. So we add another real powerhouse to the to college basketball's landscape so in general. Yes fascinated that. They're both undefeated. But in terms of the actual landscape and what it means if they do take that step it's cool because we have more players at the table throughout this idea of an belt because it feels like it could zagging baylor so much better than everybody else. They have like the the two main belts if this is. Wwe wrestling they have the the heavyweight championship and the wwe and we as as college basketball media needed to pass around intercontinental belt. Just to make things interesting just to be like because when you go to your ap ballot. It's just lock them into the top now is where the fun starts. Who's number three. And that's that's become fun conversations to have. I want you to say it's eight. Police say i'm begging you to say who has the belt right now. who is the intercontinental about. I think we both know it. And i think it's our coach of the program. The cop chris. Holman the ohio state buckeyes and You know it's one of those things. Where ohio state is a fun offensive team and they have the right pieces to make a real run of the tournament. And i'm not saying this to blow smoke. I actually liked this ohio state team. I did not like it when they blew out. North carolina dean dome about a year ago. That really hurt my. Yeah you like you like. I didn't like that But this is why. I say really his bought in i I have honestly been surprised. At how good they are but you you were very high on them. Start the season. So i have been a little bit. You know kind of coerced worst into believing and they lost the wesson brothers. But they had a lot of death towns. I mean the Was ivy league player of the year. And you transferred back to suing. Josue was a transfer from cal and i just thought we were going to be deep and i thought we were going to be good and as it turns out. Were pretty good. I don't need to get into it. That's that's getting too far into the nfl. I just the whole reason to bring up beyond. Just invoking ohio state was that. I wanted to just basically discuss this idea of like someone's got to break up the gonzaga baylor are what a casual college basketball fan People used to work with at the company we worked at before we were work. That didn't watch the second college basketball. It's what they think. Duke and kentucky are yes. That's what baylor if they were wearing duke and kentucky jerseys america would be wrong. Yeah they'd be like. Oh my god this makes so much sense that this is what i think happens in college basketball so who were now searching for contenders to break up party. Don't ask us ask the coach himself mark few he was asked this question About who he was worried about You know basically asked if you had a historic team was the first question he said. That's getting a little ahead of ourselves isn't it. I mean don't get me wrong. We're good we're talented. I really liked coach. His team and i think we're tough to play against. But so is baylor. We know baylor so is villanova throw villanova into the mix so with texas throw texas into the texas though you know obviously we just mentioned chagas smart. They'd they've been on. Paul's has been strike so as michigan also apology throws them out there. So the buckeyes mark say. He continues the virginia team. Okay virginia second team team that tony will put on the floor in march mark. Where the buckeyes villanova's probably got the best win of anyone. Winning texas in quote mark where the puck is mark mark. What happens but that's a mark few says so if you're looking for teams outside of baylor to contend with them he's impresa villanova he's impressed with texas. He's impressed with michigan so You know those those might be a three teams. I'm impressed with ohio state as well. Though so there you go all right. Let's talk about The blue balloons. Because that's what what. America really wants to know about because because none of the teams you just mentioned Mark view is not scared of kentucky. Did not mention duke. He did not mention north carolina. he mentioned kansas. Those are the four that everyone throws out his blue. Bloods you wanna throw. Ucla in the mix it starts to get dicey with some people. Indiana certainly gets even a little more dicey dicey your. I guess it'd be the word all of these teams every single team. I just mentioned even if you want to three. Ucla in indian in there and make it six blue bloods. If you wanna throw michigan state in there if you want to throw. And they're all of these teams are ring tate. All of them are having in the eyes of the narrative. Awful years. this is become a story. And and you're you're speaking in grandiose terms about baylor's program on the rise and Baylor on the rise and seen villanova recently rise in virginia and we mentioned texas tech. Now we're starting to think is there. A changing of the guard happening is is all of that group that we just mentioned Going to supplant that the traditional blue bloods versus the blue. What's the hell's going on. Basically why why the blueblood suck we know that but how did we get here. Why do the blueblood suck which blue bloods suck worse than the others. We should us this out so people have a clear picture. Brian is who is Our official statistician here even though he works for a different company. We're going to say he's our official statistician He said the top thirteen winningest programs in college. Basketball history all thirteen this week. Unranked time shut up the temple making that list by the way number five eddie. Johns was on the list. Just like johnny just goes to show how impressive he was a temple. We've just got you know point that out but anyways you'd mentioned the blue bloods I'd look at that thirteen. And i get to five and this is where i think. We really are in college basketball. There's duke there's kansas. there's kentucky there's michigan state and there is ruin michigan state on. Yes there is north carolina. These are the five teams that when america says the blue bloods suck. This is who they're talking about. They're talking about tom. Izzo millions doma calipari. Talking about bill. Sell the talking about coach. That is who they say. You define it that way. I'll give it that way. I personally do not include michigan. What you mean. But america right now at large given. This is the guide for them right those five together twenty four national championships. Seventy eight final four. Those schools none this year none this year. That's where we are all right so kentucky started one six and at the point where we all looked to kentucky we get the the nineteen twenty six photo the kentucky team. We realize how bad they are. Kansas was four and four in league. Play first time in thirty three years. That was kind of the moment where you're like okay. Kansas shooting the bed michigan state starts the big tinto three. That was the moment where be duke. They wanna duke. But the yes. Michigan state was showing signs of life. Yes then they started open three in the big ten oh trouble. in paradise. Duke was five and five those the first time since nineteen ninety-three what are now seven seven. Yeah so that's that's who they are. They're five hundred team. But again there are some moments like kentucky gets blown out by alabama at home the worst loss carina history duke has the worst loss and cameron endure As a mission. Before too ill annoy so these these like little tipping points all come up and then they just get you know. They were up ten with twelve minutes ago against tennessee in their last game and after the end up losing the game tennessee's guards kind of go off and cala period think had the best summation of the blue bloods right now. I don't know what to tell you at this point that's calbury said and i think that's that's where that's where they all are. I think that there's two different if i wanted to split up the blue. Bloods like where we are. Duke and kentucky are sort of in this own like just lane of just terrible right there on their own. They're on their own ice hockey kentucky's kentucky like like duke. Duke is still. There's still a path to the tournament. Yes yes there's still a pat winning. They see tuition which they probably could theoretically still put it together. An and the kentucky scrape. Let's let's say let's say we're on the list we're trained like who's authorized. Who's on the rails. Okay like this segment on rails. Duke is off the rails because they lose north carolina coach k. Is literally he said that there. Eighteen nineteen twenty. There should be no panic buttons on young people who have a chance to play the level of college basketball. If there was a panic button it would be for seventy three. Oh people code for forty five years. I don't have one. That's coast karen. That's where he is right now. you can't he can't afford to have these these buttons these panic buttons but they're off the rails right those two and then i think north carolina in kansas and michigan state. They are more on the rails michigan's as their probably literal between the three rails north carolina and kansas north carolina's the front trained kansas the caboose but their own the real so when i texted you after carolina duke. I said good great win. You needed it. And then i said carolina doesn't suck. They're just not good. Yeah there's a difference. I and i would agree with and that's how i feel about carolina in kansas in particular those two in particular of the blue bloods. Carolina is the best of the blue here. But they're not. they're not that good and kansas. Kansas had a real shad to figure it out defensively but also like this. Because i think the question that the the the big question. Is this a coincidence. They are all the blue bloods. Is it a coincidence. That they all had like shitty altogether at the exact same time or is is there something greater that play here and i don't know but the way i see it. It's sort of coincidence like it. I i didn't expect do kentucky to be very good this year anyway I certainly didn't expect them to be as bad as they are. But i mean coming into the season dukes best player they had coming back was matthew heard who average like ten points. A game last year They're recruiting class. Was not what we've seen from. Duke recruited classes in the past where they got. I mean design clearly. Had the top three guys in the class and how much of that. Jeff capel not being around anymore you tell me. I don't know what the writing was on the wall for. Duke did not be awesome this year. We certainly not as bad as they've been but not awesome right. We we knew that. Same with kentucky kentucky. It didn't feel like there was a buzz around this kentucky team until libya sar committed to kentucky transfer from wake forest an top and then people say yeah and the people start getting excited a little bit about kentucky like man. Bj boston terence. Clark louis sarlig is the link. But but i was scratching my head in in. Check the tape. Release the tape. Go back and check it like when liberty sorry committed and everyone decided everyone being dick by put them at a very interesting blair year. The scenery changes but the player. Doesn't the laundry change like livy. Sorry. this is my mark zuckerberg Network jesse eisenberg voice if you would have been and facebook. You'd have invented facebook. If libya star was all american he would have been an all american now. Wake forest forest was not good olivier star. Got his coach fired so like he's a fine player. He's okay but he's not the if he was good enough to be a guy in california thought it was faceswap so he bring him and then i get this other player. He was good enough to be a guy who's gonna leak kentucky national chamber for final four and being all american. He would've done that he probably would have got meaning. Fire away for four games so Kansas you lose dotson bouquet An and kansas to me is just like a natural like this happens teams from time to time. You lose good players I think they've been ding by the fbi. Repatriation deserved or not probably deserve. But that's not for me to decide. That's for america decide. They're they're recruiting has been impacted to where they're not bringing in guys ciller north carolina. Twenty seventeen win so kansas makes a lot of sense. You lose your your your interior to figure your team build on defense you lose your interior stud defender you lose your point guard underestimated how incredibly gifted and talented as buca was as a defender. He covered so many holes of marcus. Garin these other guys on the perimeter as we see this year because they don't have them behind to help right right. Exactly it's learning yeah Michigan state. Meanwhile we're talking about point guards loses caches winston. They have not figured out who the point guard should be That is that is going to be a problem. All season there. Next rocket. Watts but watts question So that one it just it just begins and ends. There's like michigan state doesn't have a point guard and all their best players do exactly the same things and they have like twelve guys all do the exact same things and It's far too often like none of them. Do those things pretty much but michigan state again. It's like. I'm not stunned that they're not this good. They're definitely disappointment. But i mean it makes sense. You can reverse engineer and say. Yeah you lost cassius winston. Who's like one of the three most important players. The tom izzo has ever coached in terms of like. How much love the guy and Yeah it all checks out that he that michigan state with an nba point guard. You're talking about like town. Cash is planning the wizards also like you lose that type of town and make sense but the real thing with the blue bloods is. If those coaches of coach cape coach k. has never not made the tournament with sixty four teams like that. So there's a chance that coach k. I mean the last time was eighty four so coach cake and missed the tournament. First time in the modern tournaments missed by coach k. What does that look like for college basketball without him there as a regular to kind of keep this single the rails so that brings us to north carolina. What what's going on with north carolina. The the the the story. I i really feel like part of the reason. You're so excited about north. You're not so excited but the reason you're like hang on a second. We're not that bad. It's because you guys were so bad last. Yes yes so like. Are you actually good or are you in that not sucking slash maybe good zone or is it just that you're not a bit because you guys were kentucky. Last year what kentucky is going through. This year was north carolina's experience last year. So you just happy to be out of that. I'm just so happy. The one thing about the tournament being canceled was the fact that north carolina there was no none of that. Like you know in memoriam this program. What's happening here. There was none of that fall out. I think the problem in north carolina is that the some of the older guys garrison brooks for example right. The acc preseason player of the year garrison brooks is a four star crude. That was going to go to auburn. That was not north carolina offer. But like you said there is some incidentally cloud things like that still looming over the program so garrison brooks comes to north carolina. He's here for four years right. he's now playing fourth year. you would hope that he is now learned. You know the the the lay of the land is going to play his best basketball. But that's not the case that's not in his repertoire. He is not the number one guy for this team but north carolina bass. Boy you know as dean smith founded program which is seniority rules. You know. You have earned your stripes here. This is how we will play through you. This is this is how we do. Every senior starts on senior night. Exactly if that's what it takes you a freshman point guard in north carolina was a farce. You know for the most part like it was not something that they would buy into but now it is becoming the norm because have guys that come in like kobe. White who over exceeded expectations and go. And then. if you're lucky you get a top-flight recruit like coal anthony. Who has to go and is a great representation at the next level. But you don't get it. Enjoy him in north carolina. So they're in that weird window of now we can't get the colon things other world but do we want to do that because we saw what happened last year. When you buy into not to say it's calamities fault. But that is not north carolina quote unquote basketball. So they're in that weird. You know kind of did whatever. Rigor mortis stage. You know almost is like the best way to describe it and then the guy that they do have the five freshmen that they brought in. They're all four plus players. I know the fuel burr five stars. But they're all four plus guys which means that. They have two to three years to really become who they are. Caleb love it at cameron indoor like that was. That was what i wanted to. caleb loved. That is him playing up to his. You know potential but also expected to have growing pains but he's also going to beat north carolina to have those growing pains. So there's an excitement for the future. We know these guys are gonna come back day. Ron sharpe is an an elite talent. I mean he somehow is getting worse as the seasons going on. But he'll he'll you know. I but i still believe in him to figure it out but i know he's gonna come back and i think that's the freshman class of us. Puff johnson cam johnson there. He's hurt right now. But there's some there's some youth that you can buy into and the older guys. I said i think if you're a real north carolina fan you understand the limitations of. Who's there we're going to take a break come back. We're talking about the players. We gotta hit all the the teams though not all of it. But that's enough that will get you through. We'll come back talks about his players. Quick break talk about our friends at geico. Do you own a richer home. Of course you do. 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It's become the the every year look at freshmen to to kind of carry college basketball and that's become a theme and then last year we get to a point where vernon carey is basically the one guy who i think. He made like second team. All americans americans. Everyone dismissed means a second round pick. Yeah right but he was like the one guy that that of all the freshmen. That like he's a beast was was even he was good. But you understand what. I'm as a whole the freshman class last year was kind of a kind of a done And that that bear itself out that you were just trying to complement carry. No he was he was good he. He was alone in that. There weren't a bevy of freshman excited about unlike year. Not the case. Let's give the people are freshman a who are some freshmen. They they have caught your freshmen to watch. And i think you know. America knows kate cunningham. I i know you. And i are on the oklahoma state bandwagon. We've been pushing k nine. Yeah tough loss. But in general k cunningham has shown moxie that's the word. This guy is a winner. You know it feels like every game they play and he's got the ball in his hands by ten seconds left and sometimes he's sometimes he does it but yeah it's fun regardless so that's always fun watching cunningham. He he is like proving why he is so valued premium why he is parentally viewed as the number one pick so we know kate. The other point guard that you have to know is on the best team in the country and jalen suggs and Jalen suggs big moment in college basketball. This year was what we thought. And you know this is a lesson to everybody at home what you see on. Tv may not always be exactly what is reality jalen towards achilles. Yeah we are watching game live this is during the melee mutational back in november december. That point and you know he goes down. Does the same thing that katie did when it. Same thing cousins. Did you know we've seen people take their killers. We know what the move is. Goes the locker room where like man. We just lost the best point guard in the country. Potentially season over runs back out. you know. it's been unbelievable. How do you feel about that now. Now that time has passed. And i i was milking. It won't more story. i need more. I didn't. I didn't know what happened there. But it's weird because you know. I can't cry those tears that i cried when i said oh my god emotionally manipulated but it was also like i said for for those at home you know. Watch it at your own risk and also don't buy does not a doctor but that was the jalen suggs kinda like you know just like dan. This guy's not only tough but like he's the real deal so jalen suggs. Those two point guards are really it. And then i think number three is the real star. That's going to emerge as we get. Further is the season emerging is is slowly emerging. Right now evan mobile. Usc you call them young shack with your old school new school. I thought that that was. I mean not to say like you know. This man is going to be shaquille. O'neal but i think he's a fascinating also he is. He's going to be shaquille o'neal saying no his his i. I did that like she saying he was shocked and then looked up. Shacks freshman year numbers of lsu very similar very similar. He does he. Does it all except the also steps out hits the reason and a great shooter. Evan mobilize on i. I generally believe. I mobile should be a first team all american jim and especially obviously if thanks progress as they like. Usc is going to win the pac twelve. Us's the best impact pack that they are very very good team. Evan mobile is going to be a top five pick. Probably he's an absolute stud watch him. If you haven't. I don't know what else to say to convince people. He's very very very good. And he is the quintessential five star. Like when we talk about. Guys that are top-flight players that you tune in to watch it. Is evan mobely and you know you and i always joke about this. You can always tell who the five star on the team is when we were watching stanford. We're like which one is higher williams. They walked mobely like he. He walks out the airports. Greg brown pass texas. We're watching 'em nashville. I'm greg brown. I've not seen greg brown ever play. I don't i never looked up as ut. I just knew that there was this kid. Greg brown for texas. That was a five star. And i was like i wonder which one guy and there is going to be. The the guy looks like kevin durant. That's the guy the guy looks like. He's seven feet tall and is stepping down passes. That's probably the pfister So those those are those are the big three you would say. We throw sharieff cooper into the mix. Unfortunately not going to play tournament The the point guard auburn. Who was out for a little while because of eligibility issues w he thought he was going to go pro decides the nocco pro comes to auburn gets eligible at has just been balling out of his mind. He's so good If you're an nba fan watching play for sure but also if you're like just trying to get into like narratives of college basketball honestly kind of relevant. He's not he's not gonna play in march madison to sucks. It's a bummer. But it could auburn. Pull that by the way like it will self imposed their band. Can they just be like wait. A second winning game. Bruce pearl would definitely do that and then speaking of him he oklahoma state you know they. A lot of people thought that they would have postseason ban. they are pushing it into the next year Basically just stalling it out as long as they which is what we love tomorrow. We'll have to see college basketball. But shreve cooper is an nba point. Guard he is. You know like you said if you're a drastic you wanna be you know informed on top five point guard. That's going to shock people because they haven't seen him play sri cooper's watch auburn. But if you're if you're someone who's just like. I i wanna get a feel of guys that are going to go kimball walker. And he would be he would be but now he's he's not eligible so happy Who are some other guys. Yes some other guys. This is like the second tier hundred dickinson At michigan i think Big guy who has basically been blown up it feels the reason michigan still good. He's he's the re michigan was thought to be. Okay i think they were like they were. They were ranked preseason but they were in the twenty s to Somebody the reason michigan is now rank during the country's because hundred dickinson is so much better than anyone. It's all coming probably want included exactly and So he's another guy to watch moses moody at arkansas on the bus bus Moses moody you know. He's had some some interesting games or he'll flare up and just like dropped twenty five points and you're just like man this guy's the real deal but then he has some duds but he's a fun ride in arkansas number. Fifteen somebody in the country and points per game so if you watch a high scoring offense that makes turnovers. They make mistakes. But they're in a lot of games. Arkansas's a funny when moses moody. He's going to be a top fifteen. Pick cameron thomas at lsu will wade Of course always having five star guys watch Camera thomas is a guy that's going gonna get picked in the draft so you wanted to know him you know We haven't mentioned. Scotty barnes for love. Scotty barn he starting. he's he lost his starting spot men florida's florida state. Just wait to the tournament. You know what i mean. almost know. they're good. No there lurking. Yeah and know that they're talented. More athletic than everyone else. Everyone seems to like you. And i are guilty of this. But when you talk about florida state because they have so many guys that can play and get them buckets to get the points like. We all default to scotty barnes or like. Yeah and know. Scotty barnes winter to beat indiana. That's that counts for something go underground mentioned earlier. I had him on my lease as the last guy. I felt like mentioned it he. He's the texas texas freshman from austin local kid. I loved watching him play this year. And it's weird. Because i feel like if you would've asked me my thoughts on on how well greg brown's freshman seasons going i would have said it's slightly disappointing. And the the kids averaging eleven eight a game for a team. That's a top ten team and has been and that's hilarious to me. Because i just how good he is that like you more a little more like what that makes no sense. Last guy have jaden springer for tennessee. Eighteen year old combo shooting guard. That was originally committed to penny hardaway. This was Pennies guy pinhead him locked in between nineteen and we remember penny called out. Rick barnes rivalry that we were. Tennessee loses springer Springer goes off for twenty three points against kentucky after the game. Calipari basically is like. I wish that was wisely. So jane springer tennessee. Tennessee is getting hot right now and They had young guards. They got young guards alike and then they got ponds and they got vulgar. Seem to watch Another another interesting point. I wanna make about individual players and we've talked about a lot of the guys who can kind of rehashing in this context last year. Another thing that happened was a lot of these guys who are projected to be lottery. Picks your anthony edwards. Who else win the lottery. james wiseman both of them are. I mean. These guys were on teams. That were not good. They anthony georgia team. That was not going to make termine even if there was one. That was a weird thing. Because you want. Ideally the perfect college basketball season is the best players who are going to get drafted at the highest are on the best teams. Yeah we have tried to kill foltz healthier example that we don't like college basketball. It happened last year. I'm happy to report. It is not happening this year. Jalen suggs might be the number. One pick is on the best team in the country by far The gonzaga evan mobile just said. Us's going to win the evan top five pick us's probably gonna win the pac twelve. They'll be Lord knows how high this they'll probably be a seed because the committee his fellow. But us's a very good team Scotty bar florida state as we said. I don't know what other examples desire williams you mentioned earlier. I don't know if he's he was cleared to come back. I don't know if he's playing again or not. But he's supposed to be back anytime now. Stanford kind of a bubble team So they're interesting. They've had stanford so much better than their resumes suggests because you haven't played home for most of the season they had a ton of injury problems so they get zaire williams back. They're interesting. Who else who else. We've got a mitch. Greg brown obviously texas texas. The team that could go to the final. Four hundred dickinson with michigan could go the final four. I mean even arkansas. Moses moody is a winner. Like i. I wo- you. You're saying that. I'm saying i'm not saying that. Genesis moses moody is a winner. And you know. I've you have an affinity. For people named moses your dog moses moses bologna. I mean manda windex man. I guess saw spa. We mentioned greg brown texas. There's jones a texas work idea redshirt freshman. I think who else. I look at it. Here franz wagner guy. I want to bring bring up. He's he mo- wagner brother. He's the best player hundred dickinson's the reason they're so good In the sense of lake they're getting more production out of him than they expected but franz wagner is their best player and i like franz a lot more than his brother. I will say that. I had a lot of beef with with his older brother when he was at michigan By franz great. James book night for tonight's the guy he's coming back any day now yukon. Uh this this has all the baby lottery pick. This has all the makings of a typical yukon. Run with look night playing the shabazz. Napier kemba walker role. Yeah he's he's unbelievable and he's and he's supposed to combat any day now imminent what they said that was the word of the imminent which says the me that you can knows that when he comes back i mean he already had a forty. Pc's yeah so. James book is definitely someone to watch I have taryn shannon junior mack mclarty both on texas tag number. Seventeen the country. I'm not saying he's going to be a lottery willing to do existence lottery but mean he drafted right by some second round the second round deep. Second round you guys. I'm interested in in terms of draft potential. I have no idea. Where the i i don't know what the preeminent mock draft is anymore but So i don't know maybe maybe some of them have them in in very high out. But i'm fascinated to see what happens with I would assume. I do onnor. I've seen him pretty much thirty. Every mock draft dude. I'd love him. I was a six five guy like that. Just so good yeah so good In jair butler. I'm slowly talking myself into disguise long. Mba career. I'm not saying you should spend a top ten. Pick on him like he's a guy that you're going to look up. And he's going to be playing for the spurs and thirteen years and just making shots. He reminds me of monte morris. Who's on the nuggets. Right now and i can see him having that sort of like you know six band. Second point guard role for a team. That's a contender a playoff team. I could see that as well. Charles bassey on western kentucky as another guy that needs to be mentioned. Who's probably gonna be a first round. Pick western kentucky. I think so. They beat alabama people. Forget i did so Wow rick stands for in the tournament. enron junior. That's my last one. Oh yeah. Ron harper junior yet. The if you're a fan of lake guys that look like they could lose a few but also like that's what makes them kind of good so you don't want him to actually lose the. Yeah the mike gum. Yeah awesome We love him all right. So let's wrap it up with this What are some things to what what are reasons to watch college basketball between now and selections on would you say what are your big bullet points. What are you keep my number. One thing that i wrote down and it's not even I know this going to sound like a hater but it's coach k. Missing his first tournament and his reaction or not missing tournaments like. I'm excited for that for this for this last five weeks of duke wins a rose off the rails zubac third rail on real third rail. What does he do. Because i mean coach k. When harrison barnes skype in said i am going to play basketball north carolina coach k. Through chair what happens when he doesn't make the tournament for the first time in the modern era really like that is a story into. Why did he got to staff and he'd start over. I think he says we don't have a tournament. I think he tried to get. Everybody had never forget. Coach gauge at the start of the season tried to get every team to make this year's tournament. So much care lawson. The women's team did do it wit coach kids. We're supposed to is like no yeah. He coached tried to get every team in the tournament and then he looked the other way. He tried to cancel everybody. The i a number of things number one the big ten title race. Obviously i'm a big ten guy in ohio status in the hunt and illinois is up there. Michigan is eight and one. Ohio state is nine. Four illinois's nine and three. The big ten title race still matters michigan's been on pause forever. Though are they are they dodging illinois tate. That's what people are saying whether they are not fans think they are and now it's it's going to get contentious illinois michigan but also chelsea ohio state because the buck has might actually be the best team of three so I have my own. That i also wanted to draw attention to The all american teams were filling them out. Let's let's Should we quickly run through them. I mean we got luca. garza lock. He's going to national player of the year. I think jerry buzzer. Lock both agree with that Core kiss for luck. i think they have. It was defacto. La it'd be. I mean not serving heroes unbelievable three guys but it's going to be him sucks. Could you could make the argument. But yeah so. That's three is iowa. he's working. I was working. Its way into a lock. It was the one that i think. A casual fan would love absolutely love to jump on the bandwagon. And yeah the fire. Line the line kogyo sports fans right illinois rape And then the last the last spot i mean. We got like disowned. As you mentioned earlier we got nobly mobile mobile cade cottingham certainly but i think he's kind of followed like i don't know if we're kind of taken for granted just sort of like. Yeah you just kind of been steady the whole year not not not a sexy pick per se. Jayhawk the interesting one at you. Hate this but hoffa. Virginia i think has a punchers chance of being a first team. All american. A punchers chance. Someone tweeted this. Jay is the only player in the country what they player efficiency rating of at least thirty five in an effective field. Goal percentage of at least seventy percent. The only other player to do that in a season in the past ten years dude was drum. Roll please zion. Williamson my gash. The reason right degrees. I think jay ratliff has a chance because the virginia nerds. Or you're just going to throw all their stats at the virginia. The wa who nation faithful on twitter is very vocal and they are going to throw all their their nerd stats at reporters and guilt him into like basically saying. If you don't vote for jay huff your moron and you're not. You're not equipped to be a modern sports reporter. You don't understand vance and you don't get you don't get it you don't get the game has passed you by unless you vote for for first of all the things that we're doing over here the man nothing to do with that game. What else the eighteen race. So a lot of people at home you know the only the big guys atlantic ten right now. We got a lot of teams. You know involved. Ac- who's gonna saint bonnie. The bonaventure are at the top. We have vcu half a game back davidson half game back. Umass half a game back. We got the richmond. Spiders one game back. And we got the dayton flyers. How i mean that is a lot of good teams rhode island also knocking lucane the dukes knocking on the door. So the tin race Rather as the season will be fun So i had to throw it out there. I also wanna pointed out the best new basketball rivalry around ojo state versus michigan that is something to watch on the stretch. Both teams did they. Are the third best team in the country again. This is victim basketball. Who is the third of the day. We are going to fight for this to watch down the stretch. I'm excited for that It all series is just just trying to figure out if the third whoever the third best team is can they the the zeroing the gap between baylor and the rest of the field is something to keep an eye on like trying to find candidates Alabama might be a candidate in alabama shoots a lot of threes and they play great defense It makes a lot of sense that they could. They could beat anybody and and they certainly can but are they good as conducting dealer. I dunno the only have to be one night. The tournament works. So and that's one of my other storylines. Mack mclarty in. Chris beards fireside tour through the tournament. I am very much watching those two guys. I also have wolf shock. A smart and texas return to form this team that we thought there was going to go rhino four again. They're dealing with a covert law. So we'll see if they can get back to that usc I just put usc. That's good that's usc. I think that's that's what. Us's fans want exactly. Just watch them play and then my final one Yukon with james book. Night i know. I just mentioned before but i think that might be the best show in college basketball. Yeah imminent return. I made a list of someone asked us to go over like teams that are fund. Like who who's a team that would be if you're someone who typically cheers for duke and kentucky because you're the worst you're you're drake drake if it's not drake anymore awesome so who who should fill in the gaps of duke and kentucky for bandwagon person or just just team to cheer for alabama certainly. I mentioned earlier They play great. D- they shoot a ton of threes. They basically only shoot threes and layups. They're the best three point shooting team in the country. Other than baylor rate. I think baylor now if not whatever close enough you get the idea. I think the buckeyes have to be on that list yet for great offensive team yet. Offensive team are two flaws are we. Sometimes they'll play the best defense and we sometimes can show games away down the stretch which her famous of things that never come back to bite you the tournament. All you know all of our games are fun to watch so And then uconn would be another one out say because a book night and just the whole. It's not just the book night. is that good. It's that hurley. A let them loose. He's basically you go you we will you take us james van early. Just gets it his face and like hype them up and it's so good. I wanna give a little hesitation right your casual fan. You look into standings. You're saying i don't wanna do baylor. I don't do gonzaga. i don't do villanova. i wanted to. Michele do highway and you see houston and you and you and you have this moment where you're like. That seems perfect for me. I just wanna say pause. You know. I'm going to press the pause button. You're saying dalton. Don't do say houston looks apart as you come in you say wow. They're topped team. This is great. I love sampson. He seems like a great coach and they got some talent there. What's going on here. They are dodging people and they are in their in dodge mode. Which is let's sustain. Let's make sure that we show good face here. Which is not. We're really good and we wanna play anybody. That is not necessarily a deal. You wanna be riding. So i just wanted to say houston seems like a sexy pick but just watch out. I think You could throw west. Virginia and west. Virginia's another team of west virginia. Yeah all right. let's let's What else we got. I i wanted to say this. My final point is this for people. listening is that Rick pitino is represented a boston. College is still on the table. I just wanted to bring out at the forefront of america's attention that I called rick pitino to boston college. When he decided he was gonna We we all do acting ended up at iona. He's gonna use that as a jumping off point to take a major job and boston. College made the most sense. Jim christian good guy the millennium and it feels like jim christian. His time might be winding down. Vc insert rick pitino man. Who coach at boston university coach. The boston celtics kosher providence. Which is in boston but close enough. This is a man who knows. The area This is a man who is a catholic man at a catholic university. It all makes sense it. All checks out boston. College is is is a program that has been desperate to get back to the two thousand five ish. Era the jared dudley era. It's been a long. It's been a long way. Atari sarah bowman era their own robinson in kabul and. That was a good. It was three games. They were good. It's been a long time date. And i think they're willing to take a risk and the risk is named rick and i just wanted to bring attention so keep an eye on that. That's something to keep an eye on rick. Pitino got patrick ewing to but boston university in his top. Three people. forget that rupatini. That's how good of recruiter so when he goes to boston college. You have to respect what they're gonna be he's gonna be on the air saying i'll get four plus plays here. I don't do five. Four plus players. I love it. Oh my god re petito daisy. He went to umass to masol through and through six tonnison right Shouts out to up. Should we do. Should we do good guy bag. I pick out just for posterity like we need this for you. Okay let's wrap to show up with that. Mike and mike good guy that we might good guy. Shot out of the week goes to and i said this last week. I knew he was gonna do this. Tom brady goes to the super bowl at forty three years old and beats the young or that everyone loves pat mahomes and i said to myself lebron. James did this in the bubble. Tom brady just did this again. Father time good guy the week get outta here. Father time every single athlete you ever meet. They always had the same thing you know. Father time never loses he's undefeated that's always say to anyone especially guys hold us l. Bitch hold this guy that we take that Tom brady column father. Tom from now on he has taken over father. Time and Good guy that we you know what jumps out to me. As i was preparing for the show and thinking of the picture nearest talk about gonzaga is The buccaneers balked no pun intended but also intended vinton They bucked the trend of in this covert irritate the favorites of everything The lakers won. The dodgers won the tampa bay lightning the columbus crew of the best team in. Mls all year even if the standards in reflected we all knew it. They won the cup. Vegas hoodwink beppo alabama football. It was supposed to be the chiefs brady in the bucks. Bucked the trend and I wonder how that affects college basketball. Now because up until that point every team was like yeah. That seems definitely gonna win. They want it now. We have a situation. College basketball is like one of those teams. Two teams definitely. I think i think it was an aberration. I think at the end of the day. Vegas didn't want to value the fact that tampa bay should tape obey. If i mean if you listen to jeff schwartz michael lombardi's of the world football guys like are actually watching tape. Not just saying they're watching tape. Yeah they were all over the bucks and if and if freaked me a month enough for me to say last week that i thought he was gonna win the game. You know so we were really if you really plugged in you can really you know think that they were the favorites. You're saying but that's all in my heart. I think the favorites stick the best the best all right all right My guy to put together weak pick. Is jim les Head coach at the university of miami. Who saw your disgust disgusting. Act a disgusting act out of the university of north carolina chapel hill Your tar heels win one game and suddenly you have two players celebrating at a raucous party with no masks on. How dare they And it is completely just ruined college. Basketball and miami saw this and they said we want. No part of this is reckless behavior. Suspended dog kick him off. The tour is what jim lehrer negative quarter to say. So i wanted to call out jim larranaga for just have been the one guy who said no not today not today not today we are taking this seriously and we are not going to play the university of north carolina because they do not take this seriously as we do in the state of florida. Yes yes exactly and famously takeover. In florida i mean. I will say no comment first and foremost on the whole thing. But also here's the common i do have. These guys are in a dorm room is guys you know. We're listening to music or mondo bake hot day. Ron sharpe about four other dudes a room. No mask on listen to music a dorm room baba which weirdly the most Offensive parts of this is the this is the. This is why when you're asked him. What your is it. your. I mean come on obama in orlando But anyways these guys they do this they posted a snapchat. Not a good idea right. Not not a good idea to post up publicly. The daily tar heel gets it it becomes a story. And it's very funny because mark titus it is the this job microcosm we have the daily tar hill which in the in the eyes of the fans quote unquote. The students and people they're like why are you snitching. You do it dude. You're the daily tar heel daily blue devil. Exactly what would you do. What literally the entire campus has all look the day dario said. Why are you snitching tar heel has have you ever heard of journalism is an and then everyone has. Has this stand still more where they're just staring at each other. Like wait what this is. Twenty twenty one journalists dead. It's all about propaganda. Hell why would you then. That's what i'm saying. Baggage turned off But that's where we are of course that it becomes a huge deal but the video itself. If you watch it. It's very harmless. I feel bad. Armando bay kat with middle fingers. Children are state children and he's throwing up to middle fingers. Yes it's guy. He was saying few coronavirus. That's what it was showing he was. He was showing a needle. The vaccines important. I i was a psa sippy essay. People i got My thoughts are this is it i. I have the same viewpoint. On this as i had towards coach k. Making his his comments after the louisville game with the reporter and the yes. It's a dump story but also we go from here. It's a dump story like it's not that big of a deal but also what moron. Why would you put yourself in this position. So i think that's that's my feelings towards it is that i do think miami like come on their protocols in place for reason if north carolina passed the protocols. Then you know like wh if the sec's like no it's everything's good. Like what are you talking about. You sell one video. Meanwhile meanwhile jim christian of boston college has four players. And you know what. You can't do that so i i it's you know it's it's not like you said their dorm room. There's like five people it's not it's not what was the real issue is that they even put it on snapchat film themselves that you gotta have better. Cincinnati me just like an iq test you failed. It's the same with like guys who i i feel way about guys who smoke weed and states where it's legal. It's like ultimately didn't do anything but at the same time like be smarter. Explain it so you just have to be smart exploited stupid smarter better just because you're going to run steps that's where you're gonna do roy's gonna make you run steps you'll be fine you'll get over it Beg either week for me. easy simple. His team won the super bowl. He knew it. His stomach was a rumbling. Bumbling tumbling though dickey pepco biz mall is back He's posted like he did is now. I've had enough of the week in. He's got the pepsi pepsi. Bismarck and there was this final post of the night. It was pepco business. it's he. He's he's cashed out. the has gone from. It's too it's too much it's too it's it's it's too much it's too much. That's all hope terry. Bradshaw numbers like twenty five minutes. It's it's it's too much. My bag i pick is bill self. And here's why he as we know they're two games. Every year that he circles on the schedule as games he's definitely going to lose it against his alma mater. Up the oklahoma state cowboys. And it is against his good buddy. Bob huggins in the west virginia mountaineers and he lost so kansas lost a west virginia. This weekend And the reason he's a bad guy for this. Not a good guy is. Because there's a clause in bob huggins contract that he gets twenty five thousand dollars every time he loses to bill. Self bill self knows this. Because he's buddies with bob gates so that's part of the reason you always throws the game. Then bob huggins takes that money. Donates to cancer research now donated one hundred and fifty thousand dollars of bill selves money. That's how i see it. The twenty five dollars actually comes from west virginia but it feels like bill to cancer. And that's why bill self so bad guy because he takes a dive. I think he takes a dive. I think i think he goes into the west. Virginia gave every year he goes. Bob huggins you need some money. This is a good day. You're you're putting this towards a good cause so i'm gonna take a dive. We're going to lose to you. That's my story. And i'm sticking to it. So congratulations bill. Thanks coach self for cancer and we did talk about kansas alive when we talk about the blue bloods because i feel like they're not that interesting in the fact that they were ranked so high of the start of the season but bill self is always interesting bill self as always got his own cachet and his own thing going on so beg either we go. What else we pretty much. I had a yukon be south carolina to one and number one versus number two women's game shadow of the page buckets. She scored thirty points in a row. Three games in a row. sorry which is never happened in uconn women's basketball history and that crazy no uconn women's basketball players ever scored thirty three straight games. I'm pretty sure my amore did. I'm gonna go look that's obviously wrong. Like see the stats down. I'm like that myself I wanna shout out the one sixteen mississippi valley rate delta devils. Nice beat alabama stake. I w head coach of mississippi valley state lindsey hunter head coach of alabama state mo williams. The two best players in the gym tonight were head coaches and think about this. The nba trying to cancel college basketball. Meanwhile this has meanwhile speaking of like nba players. Coaching teams. Terry porter is a shot. The yeah not actually are no no no his career portland. Yeah which by the Yeah career portland. He he he should have been guy saw goodman tweeted literally. He's a great guy but the time lost twenty straight conference gave me not him obviously portland bud bad speed of coaches in all seriousness I wanted to mention texas. Rio grande valley head coach. Lou hill didn't as away in asleep. I don't know if you saw this is an this is Obviously not early but this is the second second head basketball coach in division one. That is basically died this year. Just got out of nowhere. The anthony stuart tennessee martin memory on past november And then this happened on on saturday. I guess he apparently died asleep saturday night. Sunday morning So obviously thoughts are with everyone in the program but like. I can't imagine that dude. I just can't imagine like like like i don't know and then you you're you're reading the story. And they're like of course rio grande valley. Their next game will be. It's like oh my god who cares press. The i don't know so that that is a to. I don't know. I don't remember this happening. That much in college better than two guys have relatively young. Yeah that's that's that's the thing about. It is just the the the the youth of these guys and then you know you hear the stories and yeah i wanted to mention that that's about it. That's all i think I lo- loyal chicago's ranked we mentioned earlier. Gene gene is getting more votes than you are. How does that make you feel. I'm praying that mike decor see and all the you know the the bracket elitists out there. They they get together and they get loyal to a five seed and then they all keep disrespecting north carolina and they just barely drop them in the tournament. They put him in that twelve seat spot and i wanted. I won't sister jean. I want the five twelve upset. And i am. I need craig versus day. ron sharpe. In the first round they ended turn. But that's what i'm hoping for right. Now that's what. I'm what i'm pushing as. I saw the ap poll on like please sister. Jean versus the rivalry that keeps on giving. It's never stop That's it that's the show where we are back to regularly scheduled programing on friday again. Apologies to Those of you who are dire college basketball fans are like what the hell you just told me everything i already know. Forgot what we say our just kind of setting the stage a little bit for his hit the ground running and it's full steam ahead baby. We're five less than five weeks until selection sunday less than five we a little over five weeks The the tournament have started its apple. It's all happening. Yeah we are now is the time. Listen to the show subscribe review. What do all that you know it is. We'll see you guys friday.

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Familiar Faces

PTI

23:11 min | 2 months ago

Familiar Faces

"We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter hybrid cloud approach. Ibm helps banks personalized experiences with watson while helping keep data secure. The world is going hybrid with ibm. Visit ibkr dot com slash hybrid cloud. The interruption is presented by toyota interruption. But i'm mike wilpon tony. It's national talk in the third person day. Give us a third person. Yes tony kornheiser. Enjoys it no you don't you don't talk like they're ju- if you did that. There are some athletes that we have covered in our lives. most notably dion sanders always himself. He always he referred to himself as prime product. You would ask him a question. You ask deanna question. And beyond what say we'll now prime things and got some weird well going to. Pti voicing goes we loved the on by the way in today's episode. James harden returns to houston the sun's top. Lebron and the lakers and does do still belong in the tournament. Feel but we begin today with. Michael will bonds good call on illinois michigan. Thank you very had illinois and at one point late in the game. When i was watching the score was seventy three to forty seven illinois shredded michigan act michigan and they did it without their best player. Also last night baylor bounceback beating number six west. Virginia at west virginia will abundant the college basketball season. Just clearer or more confusing. Id gab better. Because of course this more confusing if more teams involved now you wanna see you needed baylor to bounce back if you want some great team sprinkled in at the top. You needed that yet. Illinois obliterate michigan looked on me. I know i've picked illinois. I think illinois is the best team in the country. I think illinois can win the whole thing but i wasn't expecting that and i'm not gloating about it because my man juwan howard he's we'll place called illinois to like the south side of chicago. That whole thing was good theater. And i know you thought it was good theater because it's stunned you last night. I could see text to me. So tony made it so much more fascinating. Don't you agree here. Here's here's the one thing. I'm sure of right now. I am sure that this tournament is gonzaga's to lose okay. They are the only unbeaten team left out there. I had pat forty. Sports illustrated on my podcast. This morning and pat said gonzaga is the best offensive team in the entire country. And this is the best gonzaga team that mark few has had other than that. What am i sure of in a very odd way mike to me. What happened yesterday. Gives a little bit more clarity than you think it does. Because now we're back to where we were for about ten or twelve weeks gonzaga baylor okay and under that we don't really know like illinois novi know you love illinois because everybody on the team i grew up in your neighborhood illinois has my man has sickly lost night they lost to rutgers they lost to maryland they lost emissions that six loss in the best ever but i don't know that they vault over everybody that's that's all that and i think michigan is beating them once michigan is beaten them once so i still think that this is the year that a four or five or six is going to win this thing but the most intriguing to me would be this gonzaga versus the field you take or sixteen three other teams. I'm taking the field. I'm taking the ten. tony okay. This is like the big east year. One thousand nine hundred eighty five with villanova. Georgetown saint john's all got to the final four. Tony yeah this to me is that you could have three big ten teams in the final four. Maybe they get their with gonzaga. But i think i look. I follow this conference long before. I paid money to go to one of its schools. All my life. This i think is the best big ten conference particularly at the time. I don't know since the early nineteen eighties when it was bob knight in in his indiana team in iowa would loot. I think the big ten is that good. We'll see but i think is more fascinating to correction what the thing in my ear tells me that michigan had not beaten illinois already and the fact that you said you've paid money to go to north western. I'm sure they kick back a little money on the side to you. Michael weilbacher back down. No i know not tony. You're always skeptical as we move to the nba of the phoenix suns. The last night they not only beat lebron and the lakers in los angeles they moved ahead of them by percentage points in the second place in the west. Pass the clippers to it. Was the sun fifteenth win in their last eighteen games. And they did it with devon booker thrown out down the stretch ejected in the third after being whistled for a second technical foul beyond. its toll. aren't the sun starting to convince you. They are for real. I am put in this position on a regular basis if not on a daily basis you obsessively watched the nba. You know that i. Don't you see team bubble up win three or four in a row and you go. Oh you don't respect them. This is a total false narrative total fake. Just who years away to. I'm going to get to this. I'm going to get to this. you've done it this year with utah. You doing it now with the knicks. Now there is some reason to do this to me with phoenix because indeed i have said that they are two years away from being two years away for a long five and there's always a but in the story there's always a but last year. I sat in that not in the attic. But i sat in the studio and i said that you know you gotta consider chris paul an mvp candidate for what he's doing and you agree. Yes so if he moves to phoenix and he has two very good young players with them. The same thing goes so get off on this. So i'll get it off your back when you tell me you think the suns are a contender or damn close to it serious contender. Well but what. I what i would have to tell you is that this is not a signature win. When you beat the lakers without anthony davis. I'll give you that. It's a signature win when they have. Lebron nathan davis. They're three and six since davis went out and one win. Is minnesota team. That stinks one is golden state which doesn't have klay thompson and one is portland. Which i think is six in the west. All right you know. i'm not knocking phoenix. I'm just trying to perspective. Let me just mentioned this. The sons when they were two years away from being to away last year. Twenty three and thirty four twenty three and thirty four. They are now twenty three and eleven better since the bubbles. Thirty one and eleven. The phoenix suns. You want to tell me davis booker. An all star. Even though he should've been should've been in the field. The all star field booker wasn't even the to throw him out of the game. Last night was just irresponsibly stupid but they threw him out and the sun still wanna get if james harden according to you is the mvp. And you know. I'm not gonna argue with instant. Let me ask you say their wares. Chris paul if they were twenty three and thirty four last year and he came to a team with no other real changes. Jae crowder then. How damn good is chris paul again. This is so remarkable that it's as if you don't even listen to. I can't because less than a minute ago. I said chris paul had an mvp. Oklahoma city having phoenix. So can we just move. Wanna make james harden make sure you boy yeah my boy returns to houston tonight for the first time as a net as you'll recall hardened forced his way out of houston there will be about forty five hundred fans in attendance tonight and hardness hoping they will be kind to him harden actually said this and i quote the love and the appreciation that i've given to that city and that i still give to that city i'm hoping that the favor can be returned unquote. Well how should rockets fans receive harden tonight's fair and said much more than that including this in the way i wanted to end and i understand that and so there may not be that feeling. He said that he said a lot of things. So people should treat heart in the way they want to treat him. He's gonna mean something different to every single person in attendance. Do because planned there long enough. And i know they didn't get back to a key malaysian level of win two championships. Kenny smith all those guys. They didn't do that. Clyde drexler in a second team then have that. But they were a factor. They were relevant. They got close speaking of chris. Paul a pulled hamstring from being in the finals. As far as i'm concerned so will boom because they think he left in a shoddy way. Some will cheer him. Some will cry because he. I mean kids who grew up on james harden. That's somebody that they love for their parents to pay for them to go see they should cheerio feel. They'll be all kinds of reactions to james hardie. They will boo him. They should boo him. He left badly. The last impression is the most important impression he could not wait to get out of there. He did not play hard when he played for. Houston this year. Nowhere near the level. The mvp level showing for brooklyn and they can't boo. Jj watt and. They can't do shawn watson and sports in houston is a sinkhole and they're going to take it out on james harden and now exactly what's going to happen you're bringing you live sensibilities to a place. That doesn't right that way. How much less betcha attic and if you lose you're gonna come out of this show naked in the street cold and shivering house to say all. They're boot him. And they should boo him shows throw. I'll wait no all right. We're starting to show tomorrow with this russell. Westbrook was there for an hour if he wanted to leave. That made sense. James harden was there for eight years and then said get me of here in a hurry. He was owner. Peterman for tita. Tillman for tita has said that he's still a rocket he ain't a rocket tonight and i'll tell you something else. If he wins a ring with brooklyn they're not going to retire his number in houston to is he didn't win any rings and user. It's revisionism to think that this is going to go smoothly. That's usually tone but is gonna be any tony. It'll be at the worst fifty fifty and it'll probably be better than that you were bringing your new sourcing. Stillie washington boston sensibilities to a place that is not that not santa claus doesn't get booed everywhere he gets booed on. I ninety five. James harden is not going to get trashed tonight. He's not wherever you busy. We'll see we'll just one of the things that can to now that the governor of texas said this is take off their masks. Take a walk embu okay. Let's take a break coming up. This last night's loss put duke out of the tournament tournament field. So how would they perhaps out and after so many struggles are the celtics back on track with the. We're starting with this tomorrow. You bet like they. Tease the mvp. I think the guys the mvp. I do they romney. Interruption is presented by toyota. Let's go places. We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter. Hybrid cloud approach with ibm helps banks personalized experiences with watson. Well helping keep data secure. The world is going hybrid with visit. Ibm dot com slash hybrid cloud with no fees or minimum zone checking and savings accounts banking with capital. One is like the easiest decision in the history of decisions kind of like choosing to listen to another episode of your favorite podcast and with our top rated app. You can deposit checks and transfer money anytime anywhere making capital one and even easier decision. That's banking reimagined. What's in your wallet. Terms apply capital one and a member. Fdic you are watching pardon. The interruption presented by toyota can't spell kornheiser without the words shrine which is what they should be building in my honor. After i win. Today's what's the word. What's i dukes lost to. George attack was blank. It was pinching. The belt loops are getting very tight for duke right now. Duke is eleven and ten overall. Duke is nine and eight and a conference. Lunardi got him outright now. So here's what they have to do they have. They got north carolina on saturday if they don't beat north carolina and they're a five hundred team overall and five hundred in the conference. Then they're going to have to go all the way to the finals in the acc tournament. And let me tell you something if ducas oughta this thing for the first time i think in about fifteen sixteen years if they're actually out of it the television people at turner and cbs are going to go crazy because duke is the one school that actually moves the needle. Duke is the yankees people tune in. 'cause they hate him as well as love them. You don't want to god of this thing will be the first time in twenty five years. Tony apparently let me. Just say this. It would be bubbalicious because we'd have a whole week of speculating about duke. And i think the speculation is more important in terms of building the drama then the actual result and i agree with you. They lose that game against north carolina. I think they got to win. At least two because another loss would put them record five hundred. Tony plus on overall plus acc did bubbalicious. But that'd be good. Good for the drama. That's after beating the clippers for their third straight win. The celtics are blank having. Let's not get carried away here. They have three straight wins. Indiana's one of them the wizards one of them. Their teams under five hundred. If i'm not mistaken and they just beat the clippers without kawhi leonard. So i don't know how great a win that is at this point they are. I think the celtics are now eighteen and seventeen. I want to get the teams right. Because they're in a big bunch right with the knicks the raptors the heat and the hornets at least kemba walker has been better lately. Mike and last six games. He's averaging twenty four points a game and he's shooting forty six from three if you take away as an outlier. The one for twelve against the world's but he looked like he was done so they're breathing but they're not. I wouldn't be betting on them right now. I'm not betting on either. Tony but i'm gonna go one step above that. I'm going to say recovering. Because i think those three wins were important. You mentioned a bunch of teams in the eastern conference. Tony the celtics have already gone from fourth to tenth and back to fourth as a result of those three wins. Indy wizards clippers. Also at some point. Relatively soon we're told they're going to get marcus. Smart back and marcus. Smart is so important that lineup in terms of things that he brings number one defense that nobody else can bring in the same win that backward. So that's important. I think all of that allows the celtics to be recovering if you can go from fourth tenths and tenths of fourth of just three games. That's a big bunch that's it. Let's take one last break. But still to come a strange coincidence involving terry bradshaw and tom brady and the west leading jazz. Meet the east sixers. Tonight in philly has the edge. The jazz are coming back to right. I mean never take three to four. Yeah teams don't want teams that that's the way it works but tony you don't respect them ever buy something and then regretted like pants. They great at the store but after a while you avoid sitting in them there and the windshield wipers. Hard to find okay. We're talking about cars here. That's why carmax is introducing the love your car guaranteed with twenty four hour test drives in a thirty day. Money back guarantee so you can take our home and get comfy with it because sometimes you just don't know it fits until you fall asleep on your couch. Sorry talking about pants again carmax where it should be fifteen hundred limits. He carmax dot com for details. We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter. Hybrid cloud approach with ibm helps retailers manage supply chains watson while predicting demands with ease. The world is going hybrid with ibm. Visit ibm dot com slash. Hybrid cloud. Pardon interruption is presented by toyota. Let's go places. Happy time people up twenty eighth birthday michael thomas. The superior wide receiver of the new orleans saints at a down year in twenty twenty played only seven games due to injury and disciplinary action. Taken by the saints. If a fight with teammate and thomas had only four hundred thirty eight yards receiving no touchdowns in two thousand nineteen. Thomas was off the charts he said. Nfl single season record for catches with one hundred forty nine. He had seventeen hundred and twenty five yards and nine touchdowns. Thomas says the most catches in nfl history by a player in his first five seasons but thomas faces an uncertain future in terms of who will get him the ball next season. Assuming the thomas injured ankle is all better whose quarterback drew brees was mulling. Retirement will be tasted hill. Who doesn't pass often. Will it be jameis. Winston who often passes to the other team or will it be the man. Thomas posted a picture with it. The pro bowl. Russell wilson what is he going to post if and win drew. Brees says i'm back. I mean is he gonna like actually go to instagram and have a frown and not be happy to drew. Brees is back that will costume drama down in the big easy would absolutely happy anniversary of kim allies. You on this day. Thirty one years ago allies. One came within one. Assist of a rare quadruple. Double in houston's win over the warriors allies one at twenty nine points. Eighteen rebounds eleven blocks and nine assists after the game. The rockets scoring crew reviewed the game tape and they just awarded allies. You on one more assist on first quarter basket by buck johnson. That was however short lived. Because president rod thorn looked over the game tape personally and avoided that tenth assist but there is a happy ending twenty six days later. Allies one got eighteen points sixteen rebounds eleven blocks and ten assists against the bucks for an officially sanctioned quad allies yuan david robinson nate thurmond alvin robertson the only nba players with quadruple doubles. I'm thinking kevin durant russell. Westbrook might get one like toy as we sit here. All these years later doesn't appear to you that akeem allies you want is absurdly underrated and undervalued where people have start these conversations and who are the greatest people of all time or whatever positions allies. You get short shrift. Does he not well. He's not the goat though. He's not no song otherwise the goals don't have the trip to quadruple double. Do they too many goats to me. Happy trails to a couple of kyle's miami. Dolphins are done with linebacker. Kyle van noy. After one season. The minnesota vikings are done with tight. End kyle rudolph after ten seasons van. Noy left new. England signed a fifty one million dollar deal to reunite with his former defensive coordinator brian flores then twenty nine was voted captain and miami. He had a career. High ten tackles for losses. The annoy described himself as quote surprised and disappointed unquote by the dolphins decision. Rudolph pro bowler said. It was a privilege to play for the vikings thanked the fans and expressed regret. He could not deliver a super bowl. Rudolph had four hundred fifty three receptions and forty eight receiving touchdowns in minnesota. It is being reported that the patriots have an interest in both players patriots. Tight ends could only eighteen passes for one touchdown this past season i was thought. Rudolph physically facially looked like a viking. Seems to me he ought to stay right division. He can find work some retribution. Then need to go to new england. Yeah but if you go to new england you're gonna play all the time because they don't have any tight ends or they don of quarterback either at the moment but they don't have any tight ends makes sense. Let's go to the big thin. That's doing on this day in nineteen eighty-three terry bradshaw check into a hospital for minor elbow surgery under the name. Tom brady. Nineteen eighty three. What do you make of that google. The real story. It's tremendous same initials but he could have been that civil war general on a union army. There was thomas brady. They're just saying jess gm. Joe douglas says the team is still high on sam darnold but with listened to offers your interpretation of that. They're not that high. On sam darnold. They wanna get rid of sam. Darnold is nonsense. All the top and anthony signs and cash stanley will compete in the dunk contest. Is that a good field. Because i don't think so simon's tony seems like a guy can just fly through the air with the greatest of ease is somebody who's to say. Baseball is postponed to start a triple a. Baseball until may okay by you. I mean am. I supposed to interpret this that the major leagues could delay as well. I don't know what i'm may fans for denny jake right okay. Then let them let them wait for the fans to come in last one conference litas jazz and sixers tonight. Who you got tony. You you think are have the jazz. I'm going with this. Keep the jazz just a little We're out of time trying to better the next time. And i'm tony kornheiser. And wilbon same time tomorrow knuckleheads. You can get the podcast on the espn app or apple podcasts. And now here's sports. I'm going to check in his. Tom brady next founded a hospital. That's great do you own or rent your home. sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. 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03/02/2021 - James Harden & the Nets Should Be Major Favorites

Straight Outta Vegas with RJ Bell

42:26 min | 2 months ago

03/02/2021 - James Harden & the Nets Should Be Major Favorites

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Every customer both new and existing. Get the same great deal. On the best of my. I'm rj bell with a sports headlines for tuesday brooklyn with a big win in san antonio the first time they won in san antonio in wow sixteen years that's amazing and hard and had an amazing line himself will go over it. He's a six player in nba history. Took -ccomplish this feat college basketball. It's march madness. Time if you haven't been caught up let's make it simple gonzaga baylor fifty percent chance to win it everybody else. Fifty percent chance. We got dominant teams. That are not particularly pedigree tonight in the nba. The clippers at boston. We got a best bet on this. One clippers favored by four and a half. Here comes a our the vegas truth covering all that and more fox sports radio this is straight out of igus with the voice of big s your host rj phone in the pre game show. America has always wanted from the vegas strip. Here's rj rj. Live in las. Vegas live on. Tuesday live on two hundred twenty five stations across this great nation. We got basketball. Nba going to take just a little bit at college basketball in ramp it up as march madness continues sports. Batters listen for the money. Sports fans listened to no more than their bodies. Now i'm the pro. He's joe in l. a. Jones knocks always good to be here. Are john yes. On a day in which we have some veteran releases in the nfl. We've got one team still trying to figure out the plan at quarterback. What is the vegas lead here on this tuesday. Zay on i think we're seeing some level performance from zion. That really speaks well to be in one of the five most important players in the league before too long and they beat the best team so far in the nba. Let's start there. Yeah zion williamson. Still just twenty years old. But the new orleans pelicans star gets a one twenty nine one twenty four win over the utah jazz. Last night the stat line for zion williamson twenty six points. Ten boards five assists as he continues to get better and better seemingly every single game. Okay so zion played milwaukee and now utah and you could make the case. That's two of the best of not the two best but right there centers rim defenders in the nba. If you haven't watched a bunches ion or if you haven't noticed it zion is about explosion to the hoop so he's not a great outside shooter. It's really about getting to the rim. A lot of people have talked about barkley back in the day. And i see some of that against bear for utah and against the greek freak. Yawn is from walkie. I was pessimistic. I thought those were two of the matchups. That would be problematic for zayante. Now let's keep in mind the two games he had played against milwaukee in his career. He was about twenty one points. A game. Well blow is a career average season averages and that told us okay that rim protection with a guy that doesn't shoot well from the outside it's effective. It wasn't effective this time. And then go bear was ineffective so at this point if zaylon is limited will say in just his ability to go to the hoop but the best defenders can't stop them that means not limited at all he can do what he wants seemingly every game and about a month ago early february. The pelicans started doing a lot of pick and roll. Where specifically was the point forward points. I on his are calling it now. The wringer website had a good Video breakdown on this. And it's a situation where the guys gardens i on are not used to getting picked especially out high. And they're not particularly adroit at avoiding the picks and zion only needs a little bit of a brush and there's no way they're stopping them so not only has had a good season though. The pelicans defense. Hasn't i think the last month as shown another facet to his game. And i believe the culmination of that is to really good games. Against two of the best defenders. I could not on the offensive side of the ball. Be more optimistic than i am right now on your thoughts. I just love the fact that he does it old fashioned. It's it's not this stand behind. Shoot a bunch of threes. it's he hardly takes threes at all. He takes the ball he gets to the basket tries to draw contact or just scores and and just the idea that that can still work in the nba. I think is a good thing for the nba. We talked about it after the super bowl where seeing tampa bay go out there and win with physicality and win the way that they did was a good thing for the nfl. Otherwise it was just gonna turn into this offensive league. That would have been the opinion. Kansas city's just going to run away with it every year because they have all the weapons on offense to see a different style have an effect like zion style. Having an effect close to the basket. I think is a great thing for the game. I'm rj bell. We straight out of vegas. I think you make a really good point. But i think it's predictable. Not just zion. But let's go back to golden state for a moment and think about when they came on the scene when the first title than they had the seventy three wins etc. Is they were so good. Partially 'cause they were innovative on offense but what did that it innovation lead to. It led to them getting their pick players that fit the system that only they ran and then the opponents would only see that system in that lineup. Ah dat is specifically when they played golden state as the years passed more and more teams started playing a similar style so not only were. The players will suited for that style spread around more but additionally every team solid more often. And that's part of the draw buff with going stadium and when they had durant to some degree there was a drop off again that the defense is just being familiar with it. I think it's an economic issue. Jonas in that the guys that play well in the old school schemes in the nba are not as desirable to a lot of teams. That's economically. They're going to be more available for a team like new orleans. So i i think in general there's a zig zagging and a yang when there's these evolutions in the schemes and i would make the case and i'm just going by what i've read this. Nfl offseason but obviously and you said it. Very appropriately tampa You know old school team but actually look at it and ballot check now again. Maybe that was because it cam and his limitations were very physical. And you're seeing more more fullbacks now because the theory is if they're going to have a bunch of two hundred forty pound linebackers. That can run really fast. Well maybe they aren't as good if they're getting muscled. So the thing. I love about sports is it doesn't stay the same right if it was an and we hit rate in this twenty twenty one in the modern era so much quicker. It used to be ten year cycles in the seventies in the eighties. West coast offense now. He cycles like three years and to me. That's particularly exciting. They talk about it when it comes to pd use in sports. They'll say you know you can test all you want but somebody somewhere has got the next way to cheat and cover up. Pass a test or the next to. It's like in sports. You can come up with the greatest scheme. The greatest offense defense whatever the case may be and somebody somewhere is figuring out a way to beat that. And then you after react and it just continues to go on and on and that's why look the wildcat. Offense is really popular for a couple of years in the nfl. And then somebody figured out. You've seen this in sports over. Know since i've been watching sports all these years and so dec- this start to take effect. I think is a lot of fun for the game. And i agree and i you know fortunate enough. Just you know some over the years a couple. My good buddies are college coaches in football. And i've gone a few camps and stuff and it's funny with guys at a really. The scholarship got scholarship but academic where they studied everything from the past. They'll be like yeah. You know the wildcat really a single wing with this tight end bubba and it's like it really is often times a rep a variation on a theme from the fifties or the sixties. And and. it's funny if you go back through the nfl record book. Yeah there were lawn and low scoring years back then but there were a lot of years. I think the most yards in a game is instill norm van brooklyn. I think like five hundred. Check that mckenzie. I think that that's that's classic research right there but you know so. There's certainly worthy ear is through a lot even though it seems like we just kept throwing more and more and that was back when the the uprights were at the goal line not ten yards back so not only did the receiver after worry about getting hit by the safety at dory about running into the goalposts. I'm thinking if i'm a defender. I'm worried about running into goalpost power straight outta vegas. Let's do this. Let's take early break when we come back. I'm not sure zay on. Well i did. We get that stat there mckenzie. He must not be connected with us. We'll get that when we it. So we got a double ts. Here one is. We've got the most passing yards. Nfl history stat. Which week if you're driving. We'll help you with that but number two. I'm not sure. I on a fact. I don't think zion had the best night in the nba. And this is a guy that maybe should be in the mvp conversation. But he isn't. He's rj bell. I'm jonas knocks. This is the pre-game show. You've always wanted right here. 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We're all working together to help. Keep you safe visit. Mwa dot com slash safety to see how we're helping travel with confidence within gotta i'm rj. Bell we are straight out of days. And i'm jonas knocks voice view the fan coming up here in just a couple of moments we will get into a monster performance last night in the nba. I tell you man. Mvp conversation should be. I don't know if it should is an interesting debate. Harden amazing performance. Amazing run with the nets will get right to that. This is the fastest growing on sports. Radio audiences doubled in the last year. Plus thank you so much for the support when keep working extra hard to keep the winners common. We got best bat common and tonight's big nba game at the end of the show ended. The our you can listen on the iheart radio app just search. Restrain vegas right here in vegas on the strip. Sixty eight degrees. The neon is chugging talked about zion's big performance last night for the new orleans. Pelicans james harden out did him himself with a triple a triple double last night. Against the san antonio spurs thirty points fifteen assists fourteen boards brooklyn a one twenty four one. Thirteen win over san antonio in overtime. If i asked you jonas and said pretty pleased when i'm done with the heart and would you give a norm van brooklyn. It was actually five hundred fifty four yards but we do it like just happened and say this just in five hundred and fifty four yards for you know you want to see. I mean every five minutes or something interesting happening right here. James harden should be what would be in the mvp conversation if not at the top of the heap. If it weren't for the beginning of the season with houston and to be candid. I'm kind of known as a. Oh he's tough on the players. Maybe maybe i don't know if it's tough you know. But i want him to like play hard. I want him to honor their contract. But you know again. I get it that. There's a lot of reasons historically that they're aggrieved right. And i just i think at some point it's gotta even up and then we gotta start kind of living by deals but that's another conversation but with harden he is so amazing with brooklyn. I almost want to forget about his tank job or whatever you wanna call it in. Houston i can't but boy i want to. Because you look at his stats. Since he went to brooklyn twenty five points. A game okay. It's down significantly right. He was last year thirty four points. A game eleven assists eleven point three assists the last year. He had seven seven and a half but still. That's a big jump. Eight point three rebounds last year it was six point six so twenty five eleven and eight. He's a smidge away from a triple double like averaging that holy grail westbrook won the mvp off of that. Now you look. At shooting percentage forty nine percent. Three point percentage hard and forty two percent. Free throw eighty six. So the holy grail. There is fifty forty ninety so fifty percent from the field. Oh my gosh can have his shots. Forty from three. Oh that's amazing. And ninety from the line larry bird style. He's a smidge away from that so to me. We knew harden was good but we knew he was good in a single system. That was that was cater to him. I mean they brought people in specifically to help time after time and then if he soured on him after a year they were gone. Chris paul by by. We don't like you anymore. Because harden doesn't here he was the outsider coming into brooklyn. And i gotta tell you jonas. We'll go through some of these other brooklyn numbers but because again i think they probably should be favored to win the title. But what's really amazing is only had six games with all of the big three. But wh what's your take on harden in his integration and his willingness to kind of be a team guy which take well. I think it was either going to come down to him or kyrie that was going to handle the ball and play point and they recognize and whoever made the decision. You know kyrie irving says you know. It was me made the decision. Whatever they were better served with harden because hardens a better point guard kyrie irving kyrie irving with the ball in his hands is going to try and make plays to get himself baskets. Which is fine if you need to give harden arrest and you still need the points on the floor but harden has shown the ability throughout the course of his career that he does pass the ball that he does make the right decision. It's not like this is new to him having a play with stars before he's played with great players before whether it's westbrook and durant and chris paul and others so i think that was really where the the everything switched. That's really the best decision. They made was trusting him as the decision maker on that offense and let kyri playoff the ball and still generate his points and get his baskets when needed. That's jones knox. rj bell. Were straight outta. Vegas is so janis i agree. This were a video game official. Nba two k. Something i'm a tag moga. I i would agree with you. Schematically it made sense. And but did you have no dow about the egos. Did you think it was a foregone conclusion that they wouldn't be fighting over the ball. I'm not saying they're going to be having a fistfight on core but we know. Nba stars can be pretty much premadonna sometimes and when you got three of them and let's not forget rant laughed golden state. It seems the least from reporting. He wanted his own team. And if it seems like that none of the big three yet have had the beginnings of a conflict and to me. That is the story. Yeah that's and that is a surprise. And i think i think there would have been a conflict if kyrie irving was running point because i don't know that he would have been able to get the other guys as involved as harden is able to do and so because of that. It feels like everybody's happy right now. Now whether or not this this stays the course and mean we've seen kyrie irving have stretches where he's all about the team and he's having fun and all that and then something happens and he sort of does his own thing so if this just stays the course i don't know who beats them in the eastern conference like i just it's i think it's a wrap but again as you point out you've got the egos. They could flare up at any time. You just never know when some some somebody's gonna push somebody's button and then that's really where we wait to see what happens moving forward. I think you're right obviously about okay. See in how back. Then there were some stars there or big stars and harden was a six man and to me. That's kind of the point. He was the last guy drafted. He was the sixth man. Lead that the second unit and he was subordinate to the higher drafted and older players durant and westbrook and then he became. Maybe the most coddled superstar in the nba. Were maybe coddled. Not the right word. But the the teams were tailored daryl morey tailored tailored those rockets teams too hard and. Yeah see three. Was there until hard. Didn't want him there. Then he was gone so he was the boss. There was other big names big stars. Yeah but he was the boss. And if you weren't the boss when you were a kid or real young that's one thing but then you got what ten years almost eight years where he's the boss to then go somewhere else and seemingly do it with no friction. I'm impressed and i'm surprised. And i think the stats are gonna scare the rest of the nba. Because it's one thing to say okay you know. He's been there on the twenty three and thirteen and that's what brooklyn is. That's a good record but check out this split. This is scary against winning teams so winning record at the time they play twelve and two straight up the brooklyn ten and four against the spread winning the game by over seven per game. Seven points per game against non winning teams eleven and eleven so five hundred against losing teams effectively and twelve and to brooklyn against winning team. What does that tell us. It tells us it's a question of motivation. The losing teams are worse. So they're going to be losing against them unless they're not trying you might say. Rj they're supposed to try every game. Okay i agree. But if they try when they play winning teams who are they going to be playing in the play offs. I mean imagine a team being twelve in into against winning teams and then you add into following. They've only had six games out of the twenty six with the big three intact playing and they lost the first one and they're five straight up brooklyn is with hard durant and on the court so they got a great record against winning teams. They got a great record with the big three on the court. And we haven't really seen only about half their games against waiting teams and only six of their games have been with the big three. And if you actually go in and take a gander at the offense and defense it shows you. It's effort again with the non winning losing teams because they're actually given up three more points per game on defense than vegas expected and when they play winning teams. They give up two points less. So there's about a five point defensive swing when they play a again. These are better teams. So they're supposed to score more points brooklyn can play decent defense maybe league average especially with durant back because he's a real good defender especially against a small fives when durant's back if they're all healthy i don't even think jones were getting a full flavor of how good brooklyn can be and if you told me every team was going to be healthy and obviously this isn't the case but if every team's gonna be healthy through the finals i take brooklyn and i don't even blink i would at this point And not a bad first gig. For steve dasha to end up with this trio. It's not not a bad not a bad working environment form when it comes to finding wins and town on the floor. No but again. It's one of those. It's almost like not like phil jackson. But it's a special talent to handle those egos and we'll be talking about here in a little bit about twenty minutes or so last that boston. You got stevens is so i i you know. I heard a lot of things a year and a half ago. Why used to think popovich but you know and it's like now at stevens it's like okay. Maybe with an under or a team without superstars but how did he do with urban. Not very well but not very many people have done while with but now it doesn't seem like he's doing too well with the. You know the tatum and brown evolving into superstars. And i'm not saying. I would get rid of stevens. I'm saying that it's a question and it's a special skill. to coach. the superstars quite frankly are more valuable than any coach the team if it came down to it what team is gonna let their coach stay in that durant or even irving leave. No no the the players are always going to get. you know. Get picked over the coaches every time and you think about it. How hard is it to coach if you don't really have authority effectively. You are subordinate to the superstar. It's got to be tough. Yeah it's not ideal for friday. A lot of coaches probably wears them out a little bit at night up next. We're gonna talk. About why. And how. I think colin specifically had a very interesting point. I agreed with them. But i think he's conclusion was opposite. Would it should have been be sure to catch. Live editions of straight outta vegas weekdays at six pm eastern three pm. Pacific straight. out of vegas here on fox sports radio you can always check out the show on the iheartradio app. I'm jonas knocks voice of you the fan. He's the voice of vegas. Rj bell jonasson was wondering about that one thousand nine hundred. Eighty one la rams game. You got the box score. And it's funny you ask. It just went final at the coliseum. I it was all rams as they put on a whooping with a fifty four to fourteen win over the new york yanks and the story of this game is the great norm van brooklyn five hundred fifty four yards for the rams in front of thirty thousand plus there at the coliseum rj. Well i mean. I can't believe my best better. The year was over passing yards per fan brooklyn but again. We had a big advantage air. He didn't have a face mask so it was the entire field. That was pretty good jobs. I can't lie all right. let's talk about. Jj watt jones. You really do. And i say that sincerely a good job and getting a pulse of the media like what is the consensus what was your takeaway after a day or so of the. Jj watt reaction to the signing that if he was all about winning super bowl and that was the big priority to go win. Than why would he picked arizona. What i've gathered from a lot of people. They're trying to figure out. What was the reason real reason for going to arizona when reportedly buffalo and all these other teams that were much better teams closer to what it would seem like you know being a contender for a super bowl were available and wanting his services. Why would he choose. Arizona and we were daily listeners. Know we were at the forefront of that conversation and it some of it was just the timing of when all went down but to me that really stuck out like a sore thumb. Is the seventeenth favorite to win. The super bowl was arizona is arizona which means they're below average if you dig in even deeper and think they're probably. It's hard to debate. They're probably the worst team in their division. Now again. if you're seventeenth it doesn't mean you can't do something it's just like. How could that you know. It's not like collor murray if there's any quarterback in the nfl that i think is clearly overrated. It's probably collar. Murray would be certainly at the top of my list. Who who would be on the jonas list of the two or three lake overrated quarterbacks. Oh jeez man. I would need a couple of minutes you have. Would you have murray on that list i would. I would have murray on the list of be concern going into year three because all this whole the way they did this whole thing is. They walked away from steve. Wilks our head coach. After a year they walked away from the quarterback. They moved up to draft in the top ten. And this was all about the kyla. Murray cliff kingsbury pairing and with the way they finished last season and that includes that hail mary win against the bills. I don't know how anybody that's a cardinal fan can go into year three thinking this this is. This is exactly what we hoping for when we paired these two guys together i. I've been disappointed by it so far. It's interesting because i think they've exceeded my expectations. But i had low expectations. And i think they've fell short of the consensus. I mean remember calum murray got a lot of. Mvp batting coming in the year. Two because remember Mahomes one at year to lamar one year. Two there was a trend of year two emergences and murray was the pick. And if you look at the midseason when he had a banged up shoulder collar murray and he was not running the ball and it's just he wasn't running it effectively he just wasn't running. He didn't want to take those hits. Apparently and i get if you're injured right but he's the offense stagnated. It is so contingent. Reliant the arizona offense on murray running and that might work for a while but we know in the nfl. Running quarterback has trouble with durability. Especially if you're five seven now murray might be five eight or nine. I know not tolerant. Because i stood next to him and at the super bowl two years ago i mean the guy is i get it. He avoids hits but jones. You've been i mean you with them. You've been around bunch. nfl guys you. You host a show with one quick brady quinn as a quarterback six six four and rod shrine shoulder shrimp compared to the d. Lineman what i'm saying is it's drew brees but he doesn't take hits right. That's kind of his and he's still got banged up early to the point that miami couldn't pass them for the physical with saving there so i'm not saying it's impossible but history townhouses. It's a big man's game and collar. Maries not big. And i think it's going to be fine until it's not the guy that surprised me was i saw at the super bowl and i think it was the one in san francisco the bay area back in two thousand sixteen Brett farve walked by. And we're about the same height. But i was shocked at how big he was just how broad he was. And then you think. Well that's a guy who was able to survive in the nfl. Play all those games. Consecutively he can't do that with a smaller frame. You've got to be able to take the wear and tear. And i was really surprised at how how much bigger he was and i thought he'd be not so much height wise but just his shoulders and everything else. You weren't watching those wrangler commercials to close but and i'll say something else. It's changed a lot in the last ten years. I mean the athleticism. Is you think all two thousand ten two thousand twenty. What's the difference i mean. Just i tasked be next to the players. Which i'm not around the matan but the physicality just keeps increasing and increasing and who knows if brett farve were would be taking those hits today because the funny thing is no one takes hits. Lamar doesn't even take hits. Like the cam last quarterback that was like it right and big. Ben invited it and again. Big ben was tough as nails is tough as nails. But it wears on you. If you're five eight it's going to be tough tough tough so we're straight out of vegas collins take away from the i wonder. Jj watt more focused on winning his takeaway was hey. He's in the hall of fame. It's nice weather in arizona. His wife pro athlete probably will like it. They're speculating so no big deal. I think that's wrong. And here's why it's not just how great football players are that makes us want to watch fans wanna watch because of the work ethic the discipline the just joni stink for a minute There's this player and he doesn't work super hard. He you know he misses pro. Let's say he plays like a nba premadonna right. Whoever you wanna say in the nba fits that criteria you and football. Even it'd be less into that guy because in basketball it kind of puts me off a little bit but at least basketball's noise much of a grind or but in football. If i see brady doing what he's doing. You know historically paint manning and all the guys at work super hard. And if i see some hotdog in. That's almost as good but isn't grinding to me. I lose interest in that. Yeah it will. It's tough in the nfl. You know just take a quick pay day or just take a pay day or go somewhere where it's just solely about the money because the nfl has shown you we'll we'll just walk away from your early. I mean kyle. Van noy signed a contract with the dolphins a multi year deal with the dolphins less than a year ago. They cut him earlier today. I mean it just like the. Nfl is avon if we don't think that this is worth our while anymore. You're gone to the coaches and front office is doing that. No doubt and i didn't mean to interrupt. The last point i was going to make. Is that to me. It's one thing to take a pay day. And i can accept that. Actually i don't love it but but if it's about i don't really care all that much i'm not saying. Jj watt that's his position. i'm saying that was collins. Take and if it if collins right. I really don't like that and i don't see much. I think to some degree. It might be conflated with that. He was kind of a attention getter houston and that was the kind of the Wrap on them. Some coaches were whispered i. That's why we know his name so to some degree we got. I mean he who knows. Does he win the third defensive player of the year. if he didn't have a big brand. I don't know but i don't blame someone forgetting a brand. I don't think that equates to them not caring about winning. But i will say this if you have your choice of places and you don't have a super bowl. Why go to a below average team when it comes to the super bowl odds it doesn't make sense and i also thought about this. You know is it. Is it the weather is it. You know him looking. At even worse i mean. That's that's the thing. I i just. I've tried to figure out i and ultimate look. It's his decision. I mean he do do whatever the hell makes you happy. And that's all good at if it makes him and his wife happy and they just loved it there than good for him. It just win jones. I think you've been introduced to talk radio well when the present when the presentation is. I'm all about winning. And i'm go. It's that's when you look and go. Okay well what was with that move. This is this. 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La would say about these teams well. Standard home court advantage this year especially without fans. We're looking at one and a half to this thing without a d. The sons are slightly better than this current lakers team or now remember guys. We had a gigantic bat last week on phoenix to win the pacific division. We got it a twelve to one. It's already down at ten to one and you look at this. And here's got to be honest. mckenzie. I don't like phoenix here. I'm i'm not saying. I like the lakers. But the reason is phoenix and the lakers are tied in the loss column. And i think the lakers are going to look and say who's this phoenix suns team. Think they are. It might be a statement game for them. I don't mean that. Means the lakers are going to lose a win or lose. Because that i just like betting against the lakers when i think there's questionable motivation and i don't think there will be tonight. It doesn't mean that. Chris paul in this phoenix team can't win again when we bet that at twelve to one. We're gonna lose most the time but we thought it was maybe should have been seven to one eight to one and the reason being is i. Don't think the clippers or the lakers care all that much about the pacific and if utah was able to keep the number one seed they might be jockeying late the clippers and lakers not to play each other and not look into win it. Could you know in phoenix could slip right by. Especially twelve. The one jonas. Let's do the other game. it's my best. Edit is your best bet. Rj it's the first of the two tnt games coming up later on at a tips off at seven thirty pm eastern time. It's the clippers at the celtics. Right now on pregame.com l. A five point favorite on the road so this is a single trend handicap which is very rare for me but when the trend is gigantic and the logic is strong. No reason to make it more complicated. Our best bet is the la clippers minus four and a half. Here's the rationale the clippers. When they're awful lost the last two seasons so obviously. This is a new era with leonard. Obviously with paul george in that two years now counting this season when they're awful lost the clippers their twenty eight and eleven against the spread. And we're not favored by more than eight points. Twenty five in eight against the spread. So what does it tell us the clippers when they lose get motivated the next game. They're going to be motivated. Best bet clippers. It's if you missed any of today's show including that best bet in the nba and a look at different storylines around the nba including a dark horse. Mvp candidate check out the podcast of fox. Sports radio dot com. We're back tomorrow six. Pm eastern time right here on fsr as you prepare to take to the skies again. Travel looks a little different now. 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Barstool Rundown - April 2, 2021

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Barstool Rundown - April 2, 2021

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I said it when we did advisors you got The blue bloods of the of the college basketball world baylor and houston and then you got Newcomers ucla ucla. Newcomers commerce stores gonzaga. You know yup yup mid majors djupedal in the fuck outta me. We have this weekend. Show now on the flip side though to be debbie downer. If it's not gonzaga baylor it might be the biggest letdown in twenty. You know other than wisconsin in kentucky do so so. Yeah i mean. Ucla it's got to be gonzaga. Bailing out well. Allies still ucla. The one that houston's dislike gets the finals. I it will probably be better floor. Ucla won't be fucking huge swift. Ucla still have you know you're saying that it wouldn't be as good of a game but if ucla finds we'd be taught which. I don't think it's wrong about right. I feel like As a very casual fan this year by the least i've ever watched just what i have seen him gonzaga. They're rolling. I mean. I mean for our era for will. We grew up in jagged started as the punchline and then kind of became the cinderella and then kind of became like in teams actually pretty fucking like legit every single year to now. They're on the precipice of an undefeated season like rolling through the tournament. It's pretty fucking. They started in ninety nine. I think they made done elite eight. My dad had the whole time. Yeah yeah no was it was. I don't think it was the whole time. I think he was wanted. He don't think he was there in ninety nine. It's did in college basketball. This stuff can happen since then. Not yes. he's you know he's up there with fuck in the greats if you asked me now. One steps down with happened with duke in like the with coach k. Going there so it's like the seventies it happened with yukon. obviously there arise. This is the most recent one. That's like a wild. They're and they're doing it. It's not like they're just doing it with locker anything. They're getting five star. Well now now. They're just the real fun. Jalen suggs is going to be in the lottery. He used the difference is they. Were a good college team. But they didn't prove any pro right. He's like international guys leave. That was his thing austrailia. Now if he's just gonna get top high school kids and and they're and they have the reputation of you're going to go. You might win a title and you get you get like pro pro future. I mean it's not gonna stop anytime soon so On the other side of things. Like i said roy williams stepping down. Because i mean i think from it's in the world of recruiting and what i just said about you're gonna win. Ain't gonna look at the pros. I feel like. It's time tally past and by old school basketball and he was the only one who didn't fully the new one hundred cow obviously is kind of the king of it in terms of buying those kids. Show up way getting the lottery. Make millions of dollars. Roy even when he wins national titles and he's been. He's a hall of fame coach. It's usually like a buildup of talent three and four year guys. Who are like you know half court basketball and play like the old school way and and now it's just not that anymore. It's going to be young kids like running gun in a plane. Every position on the on the court but still an unbelievable. So that's the real thing like what who will the it's weird is probably gonna be hubert davis promote from within. They can get anyone. They want shopping channel qualified. Enough in my opinion who. You're a tarheel span and brad stevens i who calls and i think they also want west miller right. I get that. I don't you think that's a good program. Like unc is still that like jane is done at nova is no joke. Either think you would take the. I mean there's not better then maybe you'll see it's like unc kansas kentucky. And they'll just kinda. That's a job that i feel like you almost any other situation for unless you are like set with your contracts with your so that'll be interesting to watch a lot of college basketball history about to be made hopefully with very the rating feeling. They'll do like hundred. What's super bowl rating this year. Double it. i'm not a ratings guy. But i want the best game behind you if you watch it. It's a great game but we out. After the fact that not a lot of people watch it it of makes it no ran agreed with there. Make sure cancelling that's always the funniest part about like if you watch it incredible game and then some. Fucking the raiders Twitter yeah clay travis. Again no one watched it. Because everyone's woke. It's like when i walk in credit with the care. Yeah yes like some assholes watching. You know whatever's joe exotic on on subsidy whatever and like that affects the fisa in my experience. I don't care how many people watch it if it's great. It's i literally see i with the mets like. There's you know the stadium is empty. The ratings aren't great. I don't fucking care. We don't care from the only fucking person it's more fun you have you you write people off. That don't know about sports in your life. Like friends with them anymore. Like my sister now. Like you definitely weird person. My sister worked at a company and world series. When the mets won the world series. Girls like oh. That's still going like that like. How does that work garlic. I get it. You're not going to be best friends with someone who doesn't have the same interests as you like. I'm not going to be like. Hey i don't you ever fucking come talk some kids like you know what i really love. Music and art because like fuck. Hey where's your bitch japan. I really love playing again. All right pussy. Don't you go find some new friends. I with you a little bit in that. I don't understand people who just don't watch sports. Yes but he's like. Oh yeah kevin i gonna. I'm transferring to that you're gonna write me up. Yeah i told you. Stop tweet minutes. Though i got a phone call from rico and i tweeted to start off. March madness. I was like be honest. Like one of the one of the first things that kind of fell off for me when i had kids and got married and responsibility and then with college basketball and people were fucking that tweet like people were upset and rico. Turn this is going to happen in your. It's your job you know. Yeah you can you. I can't i can't you could catch. If he says he has a cold. I could catch a cold. It's not contagious. Don't worry it's little your job wherever you stop. Watch sports long as my job but he could infect me you never know oh my god saying but the one thing that i that i feel like you always keep college note if you get much unless you wore. Stop watching war. You'd quit here and you have a lot of free tug opened up because you wouldn't be here all the time you watch college basketball again out of the time. The time constraint problem. That's what he was saying oslo. Oh my god okay. But the one thing i do i will always keep up with his baseball. Opening day was supposed to be yesterday from my mets. They never lose on opening days of one thing you can take to the bank. And the nationalist got scared of jacob degrom. That made up some fucking story about kobe. That's that's my story until monday. I know there's no way. There's no way. If thursday and saturday eric cancelled. There's no way you're gonna play. No i guess it was one dude positive and then it was context. Because if you do if you get everybody. Negative on tests research that they weren't gonna like pigeonhole live guy on the team. They were just going to be like. Hey i was gonna say if this is the case in for another season this yeah like if they're getting vaccines i think. Soon that is the x. factor that if everybody was vaccinated baseball players how professional athletes that the first fucking out nurses work. It's the optics of it. What is this is what the world wants to right now. I the the clip of frank getting the news broken into him was all-time when he was like rain. The mets nationals game postponed due. That's ren- just like lawson. Oh i don't know. I also got the ran for him when lin door was You know when it was like shaky for a minute there. He told me that. Steve cohen is another wilpon. He said that rapper. Zalman who is going gonna blow the first ten games of the season in a row. I ten in a row. That della matanzas this new nickname is buzz light year because his infinity. Era is to infinity and beyond and that guys that like watch all children's hat homeless graphic. Franks tweet of the next ten years for the last one. Let who is my could be losing. My name is corey. freight anyone in one. Four hundred diehard fan. If the mets were to win a world series would is reaction. Be four would he be like well. We won't repeat hail heat for major. I mean say the yankees won the world series and the guy called and said their bullpen. Next year. i swear to happen. I swear to god about the fact that as mets fans we've all we've ever wanted is someone to come in and spend money and then he does it and it's bad contract having cool. What's go by the wayside as the fiat's combined it's one of those three who can we. What can you give franken parade float. If they do everyone would make his life. I mean i don't think it would. I think he'd be like dry. You know like we'll be you're in the radio right basel get you on the brady like sitting with one player. But it's not. It's not lynn door. I'm so sad. Though i came in and he had his mets jersey on. He's like you. I hadn't heard the news yet. And because i was like there's like you know there's a gap when you're walking from the subway not online and i was like ready to go frank. And he's like nope zones over over. How about coley bullied on soda takes now. He said that in our presentation. he's not allowed to drink soda anymore. Because frankly soda will wait till the agree with. Frank says yes. I. it's great but honestly I mean between mets twitter and the mets personalities. That we've got here. I would argue that. The mets fan base is the most entertaining fan base in baseball. Oh yeah like you wanna wanna watch us be like the ridiculous roller coaster up and down. You've got guys like frank from outer space And obviously there's a chance that could should happen this year. The mets are going to be entertaining on the field and their fan base off. The field is going to be a fucking thors coming back. I don't know that that's the only thing that i could see that june like that lingering but we also got some yankee tears. Yesterday that was that was delicious. Aaron judge threes. I mean what do you do. If you're mike stand like it's day one and you're getting booed all over the place like i would hate playing for this team. It'd be like get the fuck out of here. Fuck these people. I just feel like you're in judge every time he's up in a big strapped and there really is something about like the fact that it's always distract us with the ball in play fucking and it might be the kerchief teeth. Get your teeth fixed. Such a funny moment when dave said that and not realizing the mardi just had just got fixed. Trust people t fix martin. What now. Dave obviously doesn't know right just laid into like two weeks ago to walk off in his career. How's that possible getting fixed truss guys. Who could not gonna make. You are not a weak point. Given's is mardi look like two rocks. 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Ohio State should now be projected as a 1 seed; reacting to Wednesday's spate of upsets; weekend preview and picks (College Basketball 02/05)

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Ohio State should now be projected as a 1 seed; reacting to Wednesday's spate of upsets; weekend preview and picks (College Basketball 02/05)

"Hey there it's scary tears. Friday february fifth two thousand and twenty one. Welcome back to the cbs sports eye on college basketball. Podcast where we sometimes discuss campbell fighting dopers and leaky black matt. Norlander is here with me. And i suppose we'll start with the biggest game from thursday night. It was a victim. Showdown number seven. Ohio state at number eight iowa inside carver. Hawkeye arena moment of silence for roy. J carver the american industrialists. Who started the carver pump factory. We lost him back. In nineteen eighty one heart attack in spain changed his name to carver. Hawkeye believe in the mid fifties. You interrupted the moment of silence. No that was a proper distancing of a moment of silence was a solid three seconds. What you look full ten seconds on car hawkeye. I felt like we'd needed to i mean. He's a philanthropist. In an american industrialist he started carver pump factory had a twinkle in. My eye allows watching the game on thursday. And i think they were coming out of commercial and This is after. Dan shulman game. Shout out on the broadcast as you catch up by the way i did not shops the dan shellman for forgive me a shout on the broadcast. the comeback and the snow was falling out there in iowa city and it's just an outside shot of the arena cover hawkeye and. I thought we're going to talk about this bitch on the podcast in now here we are so i had the buckeyes ranked fourth in thursday morning's top twenty five one and immediately at dougy eight. Oh six on twitter. Saw this and he told he told me. He said he'd said that. I would soon see that. Ohio state is way overrated. And he added hashtag hawks. And you'll never guess what happened next. Ohio state went insi- carver hawkeye and one eighty nine. Eighty five because iowa is a good team. That can't get stopped so now. The buckeyes are fifteen four overall. They're nine and four in the big ten seven to one in the past eight games. Four game winning streak and they have seven quadrant. One wins which is more than any other team in the whole wide world. Ohio state is now four in adjusted offense efficiency. That's attractive norlander and simple question. Have we reached the point. Where ohio state's offense does for you what it has long done for me. Put another way if ohio state's offense head years would you nibble on 'em. how horny. Were you watching this game. By the way how bad was the situation here is just like what was wrong. I was glad i was alone. Albouy i was glad i was alone. I was glad. I was upstairs in my office. Watching this in that like you know in public someone hit me up in the middle of the game and said how arouses parish right now. Where we're at. I'm going to have to bring this up on the podcast to listen. I think it was a response to my tweet. Where i said ohio state shooting is are rated right now which i think prompted a person to to to say what's worse than x was x rating mean sensual ohio state offense connection. Gp cannot stop juices from getting going. They did look really good by the way credit ohio state our buddy jeff bordello Turned around a quick column thursday night. That said this is now the case here. I'll have it should be a seat at this point and it's hard to argue. When that when the game was coming to a close an was he was was holding off. withholding holding off iowa kind of looked around at At the teams in that one too you know top three line conversation and because of the number of wins four losses compared to the rest of the field on including the top two. Yeah i think it's there. I mean As we record this. I don't know if we're going to new technology from palm here on a friday but i would. I don't know if expected. I'll i'll say this if they're not in the one line that the very best to but i think that they're probably a one and that was that was a damn good showing Against an iowa teamed continues to have its issues against the top end of its schedule but we can get to that in just a second. I did want to make sure we started off talking about. What the buckeyes have done here and given how great this offense is. It's it's not top-shelf defense iowa was was going to get theirs and they did but i mean come on. Gp seven and one of the past eight weirdly has been swept purdue so good on you matt painter but overall ej ladele dwayne washington. Kyle young buried. I think tara threes last night like they were. They're looking really really good at this point and it's not yet reached a point where ojo state has been dubbed the best team in the big ten. It's really the only one that hasn't entered into that cycle on the top tier. We had wisconsin. I think about seven minutes. We've always had michigan there for most of the past month. Illinois had its moment in the preseason right there along iowa who i believe you. I think you gave me a bunch of crap over saying that iowa wouldn't be the best team in the big ten. How's that working out for you buddy Died i'm living in the present day exactly And then ohio states the only one in that five who hasn't really gotten that top top mentioned. But it's it's kinda going right there depending on. What's going to happen with michigan here. The next week and a half the number one seeds right now should be gonzaga. Baylor michigan state. Yeah so who's the top number two in your opinion then. Well let's go to the top twenty five and one and see now we go illinois my top eight right now is gonzaga baylor michigan ohio state illinois at five villanova's six texas at seven and i haven't adjusted yet. I don't know what to do with iowa iowa. I mean you lose at home inside. Carbon hawkeye roy j rolling over in his grave in his nest. Not happy at all. Yeah i yeah you probably going to have to drop them. Iowa's alabama up above iowa. So my tongue baylor michigan ohio state illinois villanova texas alabama. I was three and four in quad. One games in three and one aquatic seven and now in the in the bottom two quadrants there. It's the man. Oh man when when that came was entertaining as hell parish but i'm watching it and as these teams trade blows at the same time. I'm thinking i just. I'm if you hear a talking about flirting with picking to the final four smack me i just. You cannot trust this team to win. Four games with at least three of them being it's high quality teams the to vulnerable. What's weird about. It is still the best offense in the country and luca garza's still like he was really well he kinda disappeared on the on the whole like he was really good again like he's still the front runner for national player of the year. Now if i will continue to lose we're gonna have an interesting conversation have of gerard butler continues to hit like forty eight percent from three and can average north of twenty points. But you know big. Luca had sixteen points. Seven boards five assists shot. It was six thirteen from the field for his standards. It was it was subpar but it was still still good enough for him to keep them in the pole position there now with isla. They looked like a team. That is going to lose. Eighty eight eighty seven in the sweet sixteen or the elite. That's pacific eighty seven. Eighty eight eighty seven market down. Okay yeah i would. I wouldn't put pass them losing second round Did they get the wrong kind of opponent but yes they should make the second weekend The defense is worse than at at this stage compared to end of season stats last season and i was worst. Defensively was just shouldn't happen. I mean not that we expect this team to jump into the top fifty. But i remember talking to the preseason saying you know if this team can go. Last season ended ninety seven th in the country and defensive efficiency If it can get into the top seventy and and maintain a top-five offense and it's going to be a national championship contender. It's not going that way whatsoever and now it's got turn around Play a road game at a desperate indiana team but we'll get to that In the weekend preview there but hey it was entertaining as hell and good on ohio state for getting another really. Good win this is. This is the buckeyes moment if you will because it will take another lots at some point. Don't know when but it should. It should come eventually but for now yes on the one line. We're in agreement my favorite thing besides ohio. State's offense on thursday night. Was you pushing back on. Jeff goodman talking about chris. Holden doesn't get enough credit like people do this like in. What world does chris holtman. Not get enough credit. Like who doesn't have you say. Chris holman to somebody. What world does somebody not say. Oh yeah he's one of the best coaches in the country. This was an accurate statement. Five years ago like this. This time has long since passed. I don't like you can't even get the ohio state job if you're not right credited you can't even get into like he's got one of the best jobs in the country. How do you think he got it. Because he's because these were regarded as one of the best coaches in the country. And if you count. I guess it was three seasons at butler and now he's in his fourth season at ohio state. We did this kelvin. Sampson a few weeks ago or last week. Maybe a do the same thing with with with chris. Two thousand and fourteen fifteen started seventy. The combat finished twentieth. Two thousand fifteen sixteen started thirty. I finish thirtieth. Two thousand. Sixteen seventeen started twenty-second finished. Twenty fifth. two thousand seventeen. Eighteen first year to date started. Seventy eight finished sixteenth. Two thousand eighteen nineteen start at forty. I finished forty fourth. Two thousand nine hundred twenty last season started twelve finished eighth. This season started. Tent is currently sitting at eight so seven straight years. Top forty five finishes six of in the top thirty top team in each of the past two overachieved. Five times never bombed. What are we talking about. Chris hogan if somebody were to randomly just ask me about kris. Beholden here's what i'd say. One of the best coaches in the country and one of my favorite people to him and painter get talked about how under they are so often. It's just just absurd. So yeah i couldn't. What do you want for me. I couldn't help myself like if you want like a if you want someone who actually is a pretty damn good coach and like truly doesn't get enough credit like i don't know pick someone like leon rice at boise state. He's been there. What like a decade made a couple of tournament runs. They win more than twenty games every single season. And i think that's the kind of coach. You wanna be Talking about but chris holman's running like a top ten program right now. He gets a lot of love and deservedly. Sometimes i'd like to just poke goodman and the ribs just a little bit. Can't can't help so we will get to this weekend's duke north carolina game in the final four and one might be the first time we've ever focused on tea game featuring enright teeth. But we're gonna do it. Yeah i wrote a column late last night. sort just about how unusual. This game is because it's the first time in more than sixty years that duke north carolina played and team has been ranked and one of the points. I made in the column. Is that you know. I don't think this is a coincidence that it's happening in the middle of a pandemic. I either to programs like kentucky as well. That are heavily reliant on first year players and they didn't get a normal summer. They didn't a normal fall. They didn't get a normal exhibition. Scrimmage situation that get the normal by games and i genuinely believe some of their struggles are tied to this unusual calendar. Were dealing with based on the dumbest pandemic of my lifetime flipping around. And i can't help but notice a win. Looked it up this morning. Ohio state's top. Seven scores are all non freshmen. Who were in the program last season. Gonzaga baylor each baylor's top seven scores are non freshmen. Who were in the program last season. Six gonzaga's top seven scores or non freshman. Four of whom were in the program last season. I don't think any of this as an accident. The best teams in the country appear to be teams that are yes allenton unique talent but talented teams. That are relying on non freshmen. Who were in the program. Last season pre pandemic and some of the biggest brands. That are struggling. They're all brands. That are relying heavily on freshman. Who's freshman seasons were freshman. Years were delayed in erupted in not normal because of the pandemic. i think all of this stuff ties together. So who's the best team. That's the least experienced There's something to that. Probably a definitely. I'd say the best team that's the least experienced purdue rings you wanna do another one. How about the top. We just said baylor. Michigan do michigan seven of michigan's top aide. Scores are non freshman. Five of whom were in the program. Lassie's same thing. Yeah yeah that's that's yeah and even houston which will get a second here. Even those kinds of teams have plenty of experience there. If you look at yeah. I'd say the best team i'd say. Texas tech is the team that has the most new pieces that is going to potentially be a top four seed. That's the one that's the one that could be the exception. Everyone else if you kind of look at projections of one line. Two three and four line five line. That's it and yet weirdly. Tennessee is is the other way around. It does have a couple of important freshman but there are a lot of important returning players and although has a good record and should be a solid see. It's just not nearly as good as we expect. Yeah yeah but you gotta remember what tennessee. Tennessee was not good last year. So the reason everybody saw myself included where tennessee would be good like michigan. Good last season. Ohio state was good last season. Gonzaga was good last season. Baylor was good last season. Tennessee was not so. Why is tennessee going to win the sec this year 'cause they're enrolling freshmen. Would five star freshman aren't making the same kind of impact that they often do we are. It's good point that column that gp wrote Will be linked on the podcast description. So give it a read previews. obviously what's going to be an interesting. Carolina do came that we'll get to in the final four and one in addition to ohio state. I over the past. 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Knows your time is money so we aim to deliver you. The betting need to know in under ten minutes. You're sportsbook won't know what hit them from the greater to the basketball court. There's a sharp side of the action. You'll be armed with it. We should download and subscribe to the early edge. Howard vice sportsline puerta the cbs sports podcast network available on apple podcasts. Spotify stitcher or wherever else. You listen to podcasts. So what additional ohio. State iowa the past two nights have been highlighted by ranked teams getting upset or pushed in surprising ways on wednesday night number. Three villanova was upset by unranked. Saint john golden gate. Mike number five houston just hours. After i put houston in the final four was upset by unranked. East carolina number. Fifteen creighton was upset by unranked. Georgetown number sixteen virginia tech upset by unranked pitted number. Twenty two florida upset by unranked south carolina inside the old dome for crying out loud and then on thursday top ranked gonzaga trailed to civic at the half zags ultimately pulled away a one seventy six fifty eight but it was closer than it should have been for longer than it should have been what stands out from that mess of games norrland. First of all. I had a i had a few people reach out and say peres. He's jinxed the houston picks them to go to the final four and then look what they do and then then villanova went out and did it so it was the first time this season we've had wednesday was the noisiest day of the season terms of upsets in notable outcomes because it was the first time to top five teams lose on the same day and i think it was the first time this season that we had five ranked teams lose to unranked teams on the same day so Wednesday brought a lot of chaos. They're the biggest one to me and they're all weird. I'll tell you that Like our houston was on the road. Villanova lost by the way. I played at carnesecca since ninety. Four steve lapis was the coach villanovan that ended the call on. Cbs sports network. That was kind of a cool. Deal there But they're not gonna they're not gonna wanna go back there for another thirty years. 'cause Saint john's get might get win but again that was on the road Virginia tech losing at hit was bizarre. But it was on the road georgetown's horrendous and creighton loss on its own floor. What are we doing like that one. Got the least amount of attention but to me. That was the most inexcusable. Now ec is terrible. Obviously but houston's in the middle of three houston by the way could have played. Gonzaga is scheduled our lady of the lake saturday. By the way. Do you think they're glad now. Because otherwise probably game losing streak. i know. well how about this. How everyone connected to that gonzaga deal either lost or like itself trying to get like trailing by five now i thought it was going to win but you know under sixteen second-half it's like okay. Where are you are we going to is going to be. As i was monitoring i mean. I was on halftime of gonzaga pacific. Yeah and so then. I you know we do in a post game show or inside college basketball. Because we're doing super bowl shows like from tampa so what's half times over. I'm done and i was like okay now. Going to prep the podcast. I'll pour drink. And then i almost went and watched the rest of and almost went. You don't want it take gets upset. We might do emergency podcast. Maybe i should hold off on the drink. Because i might need to work and i was like i trust zags. I'm torn drinking. Yeah well i. I reached the point. They were lead producer on. Cbs sports hq said. I'm i'm blatantly. Going with a reverse jinks here if gonzaga loses are you available and i said yes but the thing with the reverse jinx's you cannot acknowledge the reverse jenks within the message of trying to implement a reverse jinx so we got lucky there but yes thank gonzaga was able to win. I had zero interest in an emergency podcast or on. Tv at eleven thirty last night so they got the job done but weirdly and i on a personal note. I had a an informative breakdown on the court. Report on thursday about just how rarely dominant baylor and gonzaga are as a duo and of course with our trailing at the half pacific. I'm like come on. This is classic writer stinks. We've all been there pairs all well. How about how about. Our halftime are rundown. That was put together by jim hildebrand. Andy to and we're gonna have time gonzaga show ohio state. Iowa highlight will comment on that. Then we'll talk about gonzaga and the question was going to be you know is. Byu gonna threaten to give their first loss next week and we describe it because it's like you know what we're acting. Were acting as if there's no chance they take the first lost now and they're down five points at the half so let's let's talk about something else so we ended up talking about something. They got it they got it done I'm i'm absolutely rooting for drew timmy. To continue like i want. I want the manchu to be absurd. Want gonzaga to be undefeated and Core kiss for it to have the pufus set of hair sitting above Rested on that on that headband. And for drew chair. Amazing hair and drew timmy. Like that will just as weird as it is like that kind of stuff just adds to the spectacle that is the tournament once. Everyone starts paying attention to college basketball. If you've got this undefeated team and you know it starting power forward looks like someone that might be. And i haven't seen an episode of the show yet. i know you're into. I'll get into it after season but drew timmy. I would only assume. Looks like he could be A cast member of the latest edition of cobra. Kai like it's just. it's incredible. This look that he's sporting their gonzaga's to win good job creighton. Losing your sound to me was the most inexcusable. Just a rough rough loss but the fact that like houston lost the way it did against tcu like ecu punktem. Absolutely punktem saint john's nova. That was a competitive game. Pasha alexander is one of the ten best freshman in america. I love that. This dude is named posh and he could not be further. Come from the traditional definition of the word there. He is awesome. Man i if i would hope that he's gonna come back for a second season if he does. We're putting that dude top forty in next season's one hundred and one players about it. Maybe he has been great. The traditional definition of posh is victoria beckham. Couldn't look what he couldn't look. More like victoria beckham. Yeah no like you know. Do you know what the posh means. It means victoria beckham. She was but she was called. Posh spice. I did not connecting the things exactly. Well you know posh means to be like glitzy and luxurious high class kind of deal. You know like i'm polish. I don't i don't deal with the hoi if you will. That's not pasha alexander. He gets down into it man. He is an awesome really fun player to watch shots. The saint john's which is has has nabbed two huge victories Consecutively one against marquette. Which marquette's not project as tournament but it was road to keep them in the conversation and they beat villanova and saint john's brimming bubble at the moment. They're so big time. When what about for you. And let's florida losing at home to again. Bad south carolina wednesday was was nutty. That doesn't even to the fact that saint louis took a loss. It probably couldn't afford to take it lasalle. Oklahoma state blew it against tcu team right there so there was a lot that happened on wednesday to you. Want one or two stood out. The most as a perhaps being the most inexcusable or or greece is been going downhill ever since we got our and belts it has been going down since we got our bilican belts. Man oh man cursor the bumpkin belt. Yeah okay so like obviously houston losing east carolina. What are we even talking about their sixteen and a half point favorites on a game winning streak i put them in the final four east carolina on a five game losing streak. What are you doing. Except that's the perfect setup for a lead down. Now it's supposed to be a letdown like gonzaga's letdown where you don't play well but you still win where you get scared but you still finish one more points than the other team. Which by the way very important sport a basketball. If you're trying to win a game you get more points than the other team. But and that's what i assumed would happen. Like i'm watching the game and i'm like well the eventually houston go east carolina's gonna go six minutes without a field goal and we'll be done here and it became clear at about the five minute. Mark down still down double digits like they they just don't have it afterwards kelvin. Sampson was like we usually tough teams. We didn't do that you know. We usually play harder than the other team. We did not do that but again. You're on an eight game winning streak you rank fifth in the country. The other teams lost five in a row. Your favorite by sixteen and a half. There's no crowd with all due respect to greenville north carolina. Like it's it's i. I've been there for a game. You're about disrespect. Greenville north carolina. Right now i'm not going to. I'm just saying there ain't there. When i was there wasn't a whole lot going on there. It's not like going. i apologize. i'm not trying to greenville. Listen i not know i know. It's no chester not even in the same status chester. I assume you were there for memphis game. By the way like why the hell you in greenville. I was a memphis. Be right here we go. Did you not know. I used to the memphis beat writer. I don't think here but we'll save it for another episode. Then we'll get to that at some point. My favorite golfer herald varner. That third is an east carolina alarm. So i don't mean to disparage east carolina. What i'm trying to say is that i could understand how you might not be as focused as you. Otherwise would be given the circumstances of this situation and they got caught they did was to send this. Podcast off the rails. But i'm gonna say herald varner. The third is only your favorite golfer because you played in some pro-am with them but the real story is that you were in this. Pro-am being the memphis celeb- that you are and you got all these big stars again. This is a real quick aside and you can't wait to see if you're going to get paired up with you. Know a rory mcilroy or whoever the hell else and then it comes up herald varner the third and i think at the time when you told me the story of the first time which was like the day a happened. You looked you know to chris vernon whoever and he said man what does lack herald varner. the third. this sucks. That is not what happened is what happened. I'll tell you exactly what happened. We were at this pairing dinner and the way it works is like a lottery. You're you've got your pro mtm and it's like an team number twenty four you pick i. And so they're like we'll play with tiger woods. Go like that so in advance of this like we know the people who run the the wdc event like you know we're memphis meeting rigorous for us we. I thought we honestly thought they were rigging it for us. So that we would have this amazing experience and we'd promote it and promoted promote it. So i was like all right. Listen we don't play with nichols. I guess we'll play with phil mickelson. That'll be fun. And so we've got all this in our head. We were literally the next to last team to got to pick. We were next to last. It came down to two people. We had never heard of harrow. Varna third and some other person who's not here orange the third and so it's like like we're team forty four. It's like okay. Taking forty four is like well if they had to do at some point. And we're like what do we do so we're on our phones. Were googling and herald varna the third. I'm like dude herald var. The third is a young guy. In jordan's let's pick him. I'm confident he's more fun than this. Fifty five year old guy from wherever so we pick carol varner the third and we had an incredible experience. He could not have been cooler and by the way being cool under those circumstances must be difficult. Like the idea that you're professional golfer. It's one hundred and ten degrees. You gotta spend five hours walking around with idiots like me and vernon rolling balls all over south of 'cause like i'm not good now but i was especially bad then and still he just tolerated us in fact had a good time with us joked around and it was sort of reminder of how goofy these programs are anyway like. Imagine if you had to do that in other sports. I kevin durant had to play basketball with me for three hours a day before games. Like what but that is what professional golfers are asked to do. Routinely so heroin. The third is my favorite. Got we still keep in touch with you. My favorite golfer. I root for every tournament. And so i would never intentionally disparage east carolina university. My only point was that i could kind of understand. All things considered how houston might find itself in a situation where it wasn't focused as much as it needed to be fair enough. That's still not as bad as creighton. Losing to georgetown's terrible that's a home loss to creighton and in doing so just torpedoes. Its chances i think at a two seat ultimately like not that it was like you know heading toward it for sure. I just think lost like this. See bump you. And i both know what we were both thinking. We've been thinking it for two days here creighton now. It's a three quadrant three losses three quadrant three losses that actually surprises me now trivia time. How many other teams in say the ninety of the net are sitting here with more than two losses. Outside of the first two quadrants like creighton is at this moment is a part of this. Feels like a trick question. Because when duke lost earlier in the week. I sent out a note. That duke was the only team alongside of right state davidson. Those are the only teams in the top ninety of the net. As of monday night. That were winless in quad one and had two or more quad three quad four losses. So there was no one I don't know if there's no one but there's definitely no one that m- that description so more than one is is the only one or is there more than one caught me. It was a trick question. The only one the only one i think. That's what side of the tuck ninety. That's where i had to cut it off. Unc greensboro has three quad three losses. But if the question is how many teams in the top one hundred of the net as of friday have more than two losses. Outside of the first two quadrants the answer is to its creighton and unc. Greensboro disburse the blue. Like they're doing real damage to the resume. Losing stupid games like this inside. The chr health center omaha that used to be like the equivalent like omaha is equivalent of pinnacle bank. Seventy one inside c. h. health center omaha has even now. They're eight and three this season home. Venues in the state of nebraska. It's not good troublesome problematic for sure. Creighton is thirty. Four th in the net. A what are we thinking right now. Seven seats scott to be seventy three three lost twenty fifth in the top twenty five and one which equates to a seventy boom i who are the other two bad ones on schedule up in front of me where the quad threes threes on. Creighton's resume. our this is what you do. When you're stalling so you can find. It's all good luck in loosened podcast. Here we go all talk and toss quad three loss to buy the ways. Gp looks penn state at six and eight right now as we talk on this friday morning as thirty third in the net it six and eight and three and seven quad one. What are we are a december home loss inside. Chr health center omaha to marquette and a january home loss inside c. h. i. health center mahal to providence. So they got three home losses to unranked market unranked. Georgetown unrig providence. And that's how you get three three losses folks creighton place at marquette at five o'clock on saturday that's a fox hit by the way of marquette wins that game at home it will have a sweep of creighton and it also has a win over wisconsin. It would be just ten and nine but we're getting to a point here and we'll say this for next week or soon soon enough I think we've got a few teams that are developing weird resumes. Were there only one or two games above five hundred in this produced regular season. And i think that's going to be an inevitability when we get to selection sunday they're going to be teams in the field data going to finish like they're going to be like thirteen and eleven and they're gonna be in the ncaa tournament because they're going to have enough high winds. That i think are going to put them over. The top. I dunno market is going to be one of them. All i know is of marquette. Once any chance of making Tournament it has to sweep creighton. Got that opportunity. Saturday just to circle back to the zags real quick and then we'll get the final four and one. They really struggled from the three point line at pacific. They were one of eight from three in the first half. Four seventeen for the game at twenty three point five percent shooting thirty four point nine percent for three on the season which ranks one hundred sixteenth nationally meantime baylor forty three point nine percent from three that ranks first nationally disaster steele number two an adjusted offensive efficiency. Because they're so good for two they shoot sixty four sixty four point eight percent inside the arc that ranks first nationally effective field goal percentage sixty point seven that ranks first nationally but they are not great or even good from the three point. Line if you're looking for a weakness if you're trying to nitpick gonzaga and looking for weakness that is the place to look you're absolutely right But i still consider now again. I'm gonna. I'm gonna put baylor one in my power rankings on tuesday ahead of gonzaga. You're going to hold firm. But i still think that they're extremely close. And if you did not read it just a quick note on this right now. In adjusted efficiency margin it can palm baylor saga baylor's at thirty five point three five connects at thirty four point eight eight. What those numbers mean. As i explained in the piece is if baylor gonzaga played the average college basketball team this season on neutral floor over one hundred possessions. They would be expected to win by thirty five point. Three five points there. If you're plus thirty five inefficiency efficiency margin you all time. Great baylor's got to try and continue this gonzaga's got to try and continue through the tournament. It tough competition tougher. Obviously but at this point they are so far ahead of the rest of the sport that if they continue this just to get an idea. The only time. I'm sure you saw gp so. I won't trivia time you here. But i was surprised by this. The only time that we've ever had a one two of teams that have been more and lapping the field in the regular season. Like this was ninety. Seven ninety eight when duke and carolina were one in two in ken thompson efficiency margin heading into the tournaments and they were more than eight points. Better than the third place team which was kentucky. Arizona was fourth and of course duke and carolina. They didn't win the national championship. Duke lost in the elite eight carolina loss in the final four. So keep that in mind. It's the fickle nature of the tournament. But those those teams were just absurdly dominant. And right now they're tracking baylor to be the second most dominant dua. We've had in the season in the past twenty five years And even if they don't keep this pace they're pretty much guaranteed barring absurd run of losses. Which just isn't going to happen. They're going to be one of the top four of the past twenty five years so what we have here. What your eyes are telling. You is backed up by the data. The they are abnormally. Great compared to most other seasons again as a duo. I'm talking specifically about two teams separating from the rest of the pack as opposed to an all-time great singular team atop the rankings. And neither one of them playing this weekend. That's correct baylor. I know baylor as noted off air before we Jumped on the potty baylor gonzaga michigan ohio state top four teams in your top twenty five to one. None of them are playing this weekend. listeners are probably aware of this. But if you're not in you're catching in for news The new shares at baylor is going to miss. It's next to schedule games against tcu oklahoma. The by the way the wording on this was weird paris you pick up on that the announcement. Yeah it was like big twelve guideline interruption guidelines. Okay i mean. I you know i checked in with the source. It is co vid. They didn't mention it birth. I mean i don't know that was weird. Baylor was more transparent previously. And i don't know what exactly what's happening with that. But hopefully all can be well and things get back on. The horse can get back on their horse pretty soon. There i tell you what though i had a coat. How about this. So i had a coach reach out in a power conference when the baylor stuff happened like an hour later i missed it in real time most. Put my kids down. I saw it like an hour after it got announced. But he said this he goes. He goes matt all caps. Nobody know coaches wanna conference tournament. None honestly these games that are getting postponed. Just cancel them at this point said leagues and athletic directors. Have to be smart about this. Because i said you had the time to make up these games just about done But then he said of course they want that conference tournament money from the sponsors as well. And then i just kind of put forth cat like to state the obvious and what we talked about on this podcast. What i wrote about like again college basketball is flirting with some real embarrassment. Here if you have these conference tournaments and you have like two four six teams. That are good enough to be in the tournament and then they don't go play in the tournament. 'cause what i said was imagine if this happened to baylor like the friday of the conference tournament what are we doing so it was just interesting to hear from this coach who just of reached out to say. Yeah like you know some guys kind of publicly are lobbying for this but the people talking to they don't want conference tournaments now. They're probably going to happen. No matter what the baylor thing if we get another top ten team like michigan's not coming back for another week or so if we're going to this happen to another relevant one-two-three projected four seed perish going to reemphasize. How stupid this is and i know. We're kind of preaching to hear that again from a different coast that i didn't talk to previously about this that it didn't that wasn't included in my poll on my story from two weeks ago. I bet there's some super interesting conversations happening behind the scenes because it sounds like a lot of head coaches don't want to put themselves in position. I don't doubt for a second that a lot of coaches don't wanna put themselves in the position. I'd push back on the idea that no coaches want to. Because let's think about an. I haven't talked to travis about this but let's say you're travis for right all right. You don't have an eight tournament. I'm assuming the atm would just give. It's i say this as the master of ceremonies eighteen media day. I would assume the ten would just give its automatic bid to its conference champion. Which at this moment would be saint bonaventure. So if you're saint louis travis ford then you've only ten games to date your own two your league today. You're probably not making the tournament as an at large. Just probably not. But you think you might think you've got the best team leave. So i bet you he'd want conference tournament agreed agreed because it's out of necessity there. Yes but if you're if you're in a position of you know at large lock status than what are we doing here you know. There's no great solution here. I i have heard a little bit of yet but we really would prefer to not go ten fourteen seventeen days without playing a game before the tournament. That's not ideal either valid but if your choices are do that or significantly risk even being in the tournament you're obviously going to the option that puts you in the incidentally tournament so keep that in mind that we are getting to the point here where games can't be postponed. They have to be cancelled game. Totals are gonna wind up in the low twenty s a maximum of twenty seven No team is going to get to twenty seven games this season. I don't think auburn and mississippi state. Who are the four last week. you mentioned they. I guess they got a shot. Technically but But yet to keep that in mind baylor's on the shelf for For week or so and And if it can get back quickly then it's going to be able to. Its next game. The bears are scheduled to play. Is saturday february thirteenth at home against texas tech. We wait and see if that will be played a scheduled so no gonzaga this weekend. Obey this weekend no michigan this weekend. Ohio state this weekend but we still got enough games to do a final four in one. You want to update me on the record. I do okay. So as of last week i went three and two one four. What does not good. So i'm twenty and nineteen you're eighteen and twenty one rough go freeway. There's there's some interesting game here. Game on saturday noon eastern number ten alabama at number eighteen missouri inside. Alex oreo key arena. You can watch it on. Espn alabama minus three. How funny is that. Alex played it. Missouri still doesn't make a lot of it makes perfect sense. I'm but like even when you think of yukon. He finished his career missouri. That's grasso champion. I know a national chain at uconn has got an arena named after met missouri. That's gotta be first. Here's a good interview chefs. The alexander jaki. He's he's going to the no context on college basketball podcast pre between. You just admitted it. Alex ariake we're gonna get it in a missouri uniform in missouri. Okay fair enough. I'm dropping alex. Orienting in herald varner the third into the into the preview. There's there's no doubt about it This is a big spot here. Missouri had a good season. But you'd be if you can beat bama one you make the race actually interesting loss here. It's been done for a while but it's just you're totally playing the string from there. Give me give me missouri to cover this three points. I'm feel like it could be a could be mizzou straight up situation. But i don't know if i'll go that far but yeah i like this line. I'll take i've already on on the wreck. This is tough me because all of missouri. But i've i've identified alabama's my favorite basketball team in the country which is a spot for me. I'm going to lay the points. Alabama minus three a because alabama identifies my favorite team in the country. And be. I need to be opposite you to try to catch up and see. They've been rolling their eleven to one. In the past twelve games beat lsu twice by a combined. Fifty eight point be kentucky twice by combined. Thirty one point. Be tennessee by eight. Florida by fifteen miss by eight arkansas. By thirty one right now. Alabama is number three and adjusted defensive efficiency and number nine in adjusted tempo. It is very very rare to play this fast and be this on defense. Which leads me to trivia. i love when you sing. Only three teams in the kim palm aire have finished top ten in adjusted tempo in top five in adjusted defensive efficiency which is where alabama is right now only three teams kim palmer which dates back to two thousand one two thousand two season. It's three teams from two different schools in the schools. Do the criteria one more time top. Ten top ten tampa be top ten right now. Alabama is ninth and timbo third in defensive efficiency so i drew the line at top ten in tempo and top five and adjusted defensive efficiency fast teams. That were good on defense. All these. I'm trying to think. I'll say on carolina. One of them is not it's not But i didn't ask you for the teams as much as the schools. North carolina is one of the schools. North carolina has done it twice. Thousand two thousand five north carolina's two thousand seven north carolina. Both teams were one seeds in the ncaa tournament. Two thousand five national champion. Two thousand seven lost in the elite eight and how many more schools will have to try. And gus here one. Because it's happened three times. North carolina responsible for two so just as a function of what i research with the court report here and duke has been tremendous in like the team was is the only team to finish number one in offense and defensive efficiency at the end of the season history. Ken palm so. I don't know if that's the team or not. But i'll just have guessed because they they've been popping up a lot in my research this week. It is duke to two thousand two. They were number eight and tempo number one in defensive. Efficiency got a number one the insulate tournament and then lost stupidity. Da did and it was that exact team only team to finish the season number one in both offensive and defensive efficiency. How about that so the bottom line here is that alabama is playing at a tempo guarding in a way that has only been done three times previously in the kim palmyra in all three teams got a one c the turn. What's the next game saturday. Two pm eastern number twenty three kansas at number seventeen west virginia inside joe missoula coliseum. You can watch it on. Cbs america's most watched network is the network stars west virginia minus to give me a reason to pick kansas in this game. There's none right got a is. It justifiable k. This has dropped four straight road games by an average of nine point eight points. Those games were oklahoma state. Baylor oklahoma tennessee. I figure we're in agreement here. I'll take baba steam. I gets gets a win. We'll be stunning. But there's just not anything to base picking kansas right now gotta go. Wvu kansas six and six in the first two quadrants with all six losses coming in the first quadrant cases is not bad cases. Just isn't great. They're just like look but one obvious difference between early in the season in like recently. The jalen wilson is five of twenty six from the field in his past three games. This should nineteen point two percent. He averaged sixteen point three points and nine point zero rebounds in kate us first game. We were like whoa look at this. Now he's past seven games didn't seven point one points five point seven rebounds so he has slipped. Kansas has slipped west. Virginia by the way hasn't been great five and four in the past nine games three and one in the past. That's that's okay but five and four in the past night. yeah. I mean again. Kansas lost four straight road games. And i know it's not going into joe missoula coliseum under normal circumstances but like it's still a rogaine. They haven't been good in games west virginia minus two. I'll lay the number saturday six. Pm eastern this game. Three on ranked north carolina at unranked duke inside j barrett indoor stadium. You can watch it on. Espn duke monastery. Once you name this rg barrett indoor stadium you remember. Rj bear. He played with zaylon and camp so the big guard from canada. Anyway the knicks. Now what's the line. We're gonna duke minus three. This is. I think everybody knows that this time. The first time. Carolina and duke of played each other both unranked since february twenty seven nineteen sixty which coincidentally was my father's fifth birthday coach k. Was thirteen years old. Roy was nine. The super bowl did not even exist. what do we think mike stent. Tell us before the game. What do we think. Let's gold all getting the jerseys on the assistance milling around guys are just getting ready and have coach k. Comes out of office steps in the locker room. Let's go any other ideas. come on i. i'll say i'll say ducasse disarm duke minus three. They win the cover and in doing so. It's it's is this a quad to win if they win it like it's going to be fine. It's going to. It's going to hamper carolina's chances. But i'll i'll i'll ride all right. The the blue devils these teams are something else men. Unc is fifty fifth in the net. Duke could sixty six. They're a combined one in eight in quadrant one opportunities and we discussed it when we're talking about a hostage at the top. I really do think. I don't believe it's a coincidence. They're both bad in the same season that is being played in the middle of a pandemic. we talked ab- dumbest one i've ever seen. We talked about it with the best teams in the country. They all are relying heavily on players. That were in the that are non freshman and were in the program pre pandemic three dukes top four scores of freshmen. Who were in high school. Pre pandemic four top six scores of freshmen. Who were in high school. Pre pandemic combined that with kentucky like every everybody at kentucky was somewhere else except he on brooks pre pandemic. I i if you're looking for the most obvious explanation. For how in the world kentucky duke carolina august call these situations. It's because they are built in a way that is not ideal for a pandemic basketball season. Not that record is gross. Quad one mark one. Eight quarter one. Unc owned five advise three. You're taking the hills I am. I'm going gonna take a minute. Take north carolina on the road to get away on you drop here. All right that makes sense. I'll take duke so we disagree on two of the three. What's the fourth saturday ten pm. Eastern number twenty one. Ucla at usc inside the o. J. mayo center you can watch it on. Espn usc minus four trivia. Time okay if usc wins this game what will its record. Play no cheetahs. Usc can't win the game. They're planning because mick cronin the berlin. What are you talking about k. Entertain the bruins. Usc can win the game. What are we talking about. Usc wins the game. It's nine into in league play. That was coaching the bruins. Did you forget that is gp way of saying. I don't want to try and get some way wrong here if usc. Here's the real trivia time. If usc wins this game nine and two in league play. When's the last time usc one nine of its first eleven games in conference play. Guess the year. okay. I will guess the year the year two thousand eight nineteen ninety to nineteen ninety-two. All those your dad then. That would have been thirty. Seven thirty seven you say so nine and two can win this game. Home opportunity trojans. Ucla and usc have been getting consistent love and the power rankings. Because they've been winning a lot as of late and at fourteen and three for usc. This is a team. That's clearly headed toward the incidentally tournament. Big time opportunity here at ucla. Thirteen and three as all but one of its games since christmas. So wonderful game glad you picked. It was one of my two. Wasn't sure if you were going to do it. Happy did wonderful evening. Tip here on saturday to wind down your day. Fifty if usc wins like playing somebody other than ucla. Mamedov right. now. I mean. I'm i'm gonna take usc without without. Yeah usc minus four. I'll take usc minus seven. Let's go taking usc minus seven c minus four. The bricks go. The bruins are thirteen and three over on nine and one of the pack twin pac. Twelve chris man. Did you see the christmas interview by the way with indicate shot. You didn't know so. Andy kansas talking to chris man. He was the leading score. Second leading rebounder. Last season played eight games this season leading score and leading rebounder tears. Aco doesn't matter you. Seven and one without loss. Final second loss in ot at stanford if stanford were in santa cruz so anti kansas talking to christmas. He's like how how. How is this team. I think it was under mike analytically. How is this team still holding it together. You know when you're no longer a part of it christmas. I don't know about analytics but i can give you a name. That name is mick crumlin so good. That's wonderful that's a player showing proper respect to the greatest coaching. Ucla history. the court. Hashtag can stay. I can't Thought through this a little better. I would have named the galen center after macron. Shouldn't think about this enough. It should have been saturday ten pm. Eastern number twenty one win their see inside the mid cronin center now. They got their win there. They have if they name. What if we name the galen center court mick mick cronin and nil wouldn't gore just wouldn't work us i remember i was in hq The last season when these two teams played a tight butt. Ugly game and usc one on his home floor ucla. Ucla has got to get a win. There i'll entertain this absurdity. They got to win. They're not going to the us going to cover. You're gonna take ucla no surprise. Of course i'm taking ucla. By the way i do proper respect for. Usc usc is in the top twenty five and one right now. I've got ucla twentieth usc. Twenty four and evan mobile is a monster. Sixteen point eight points nine rebounds. Three point one blocks. He leads the pack twelve in rebounds per game and blocks per game if we were naming a pac twelve coach of the year right. Now that's easy but we were name it a pac twelve player of the year. I think also easy from. Here's a quick Tour what else you need to know here. First of all been news. That's happened since we started podcasting florida. Lsu is going to be postponed. Doodoo covert issues in florida's program. We also have an update from if you don't hit me with news unless it's trevor bauer to the mets news. Is that happening and did it happen. I don't know it's it's we should know any minute we're waiting okay. Sounds good even if you want to jump in if it happens before we're done jump in that's fine But that afford lsu is not going to happen there and we did learn since we last podcast it The johnson family released a statement that said after consulting with Numerous doctors and experts at the likes of harvard and yale vanderbilt in five universities in total including the heart health institute down in gainesville It's been determined that county johnson's collapse in december was not a result of something tied to covid nineteen. So they still don't have all the answers but after speaking with multiple experts and taking their time in patients and diligence and by the way in the statement also promising to provide continued transparency. And help to anyone that you know should encounter something like this similar to this. You know god forbid So that's the latest on chianti johnson situation. Also this kind of was expected but the statement. I guess officially confirmed that he's not gonna play the rest of the season which everyone realize. It was going to be the case. The second that he collapsed. So that's just a that's not happening elsewhere around the sport as i Give you a heads up here. Gp's check-in trevor. Bauer stuff on his phone. I love it friday. There's only one game to know. Maryland at penn state at seven o'clock tip on f s one for our friday listeners. Again penn state sub five hundred by two games and like thirty the net. What are we doing here if it wins project. Potentially it's going to be protected as attended. I don't know what's going on there. Maryland don't drop the ball as for saturday games. We haven't talked about seton hall at uconn is sixty noon tip on fox also on newness virginia tech at miami. Miami's not good gets beaten like three good teams. So who knows be anything happen there. At one o'clock drake's going to try and remain undefeated playing valparaiso at the arc. One o'clock tip Bubbly game that's homer. Janet arena there. We go Syracuse a clemson. At two o'clock tip on acc network. Syracuse is a better team in the tournament projection than you might think but it's got plenty of work to do that to me is among those unpredictable games of the day. If you told me clemson one by twenty four or syracuse won by fourteen. I believe both of them. Wisconsin at illinois is An intriguing to thirty tip on fox both obviously ranked illinois. Gp mentioned before he would put them as number one two seed at point there. Wisconsin meanwhile I once claimed this was the most reliable team in the big ten. It might be number ten in that order at this point there but a rank match up to thirty tip. We've got a lot of stuff happening between noon. Basically four o'clock on on on saturday there and then texas is gonna play at oklahoma state. That's a three o'clock tip on. Abc on saturday gp loves it oklahoma state. That's an urgent game here. If you can win that and you can get into the tournament and by having your appeal held off and you're going to have a real shot there. So that's all the saturday stuff. My fifth game is the only good game on sunday before the super bowl. It is iowa deanna. I was going to try and pick up from where it From work dropped off by ohio state on thursday night me to fan base is going to be mad picking this game and before we do our pick we are like. Let's get this podcast done. Well in advance of the super bowl right. We do this every year. We're not recording african cerebral. Right of course not. Okay all right. So we'll here's i'm gonna i'm gonna be a sleep at by coke by sleep. I mean asleep okay. Well this is a noon tips. How about this. I wouldn't again as a news tip on on sunday when this games done we hop on the pot. Because who knows what's going to happen in this one indiana. It's lost three of its one and three in their in their last four games so so one of these teams is gonna give guaranteed to be one four minutes past five when this rule gets home. Just disaster situation here Indiana need this win to and for iowa to lose this one. You carver hawkeye. Would never the line roy. J j the line iowa minus three on the road in indiana who you got. Trust trust carver hawkeye. This isn't impossible thing. It felt like some way. Both these teams are going to lose. Like the only way they should go is that both teams should walk out of there with a law. Trust neither one of them noyon. I'm gonna agree with you. I'll take iowa i have. This might be my least confident. Pick of the entire season of the entire season but we are actually going to agree here. it's the all you know villanova. Georgetown it's also happening on sunday but come on out. This is the only game with any sort of interest in the sport in advance of super bowl. sunday So keep an eye on that. By the way. I'll i'll mention one more than i lost off the they're they're good. They're tough thirty. They just don't win like imagine being good but just not winning enough. That's what they are exactly. That has they haven't quite mastered and something. I keep stressing on the podcast. The important not finishing with more points than your opponent. They don't do that enough tough deal. It's a tough deal. Bonnie's at saint. Louis is a two o'clock tip on saturday on. Cbs sports network. So i don't have time and stuff for that or are you going to be on. Hd with what's your saturday deal. Here deal i am. Hq all day. Every game halftime free. Post okay this is a reminder to listen. Listen if you enjoy the pod. We don't get as crazy. Do i occasionally drop the easter egg. Hq that references the podcast and only parish and not the producers of the host. When i'm doing of course i do. So if you want a good second third fourth screen experience You can watch us on your phone. Whatever cbssports as few on your your smart tv whatever we are on. We're gonna be on like seven times on saturday so if you wanna check in we do encourage it keep apple. Yes bonnie's at saint louis. Two o'clock cbs. Sports network tip on saturday accidentally. Read over that one in my copy before that is a genuinely significant game arguably the biggest game of the season again. Two o'clock cbs. Sports network. on saturday Be sure to check in with that. I'm not sure you're allowed to identify biggest eighteen game season. You had risen of the masters you had the chance and you didn't take it so i don't know what you want from me. All i know is when i am halftime of bonnie's games in straight Fifty text back and forth with the entire family fired up about their bonnie's first place in the eight. Tenths big huge game. Yes huge game for the After the eight ten there and yet bonnie's got shot. They got a shot. There's no there's no doubt about it their Their couple more wins in if they can afford any more losses of breaking into your ranks. I would think shouts to devon devon just south carolina. Terry about fatigue will lead. Gen shouts larne. Now thank you guys for once again listening to the. Io college basketball podcast in the middle of the absolute dumbest pandemic of my entire lifetime. I didn't see this one company. I didn't see it going this way. The lander i thought for sure this one was gonna go differently. I didn't i didn't properly understand what what we would get myself into and as a country but here we are here we are. Hey we didn't do super bowl picks you want to do you know what. That's a good point. I actually had this in my little to do bowl. Yeah i saw. I watched you on halftime You picked you picked. Kansas city thirty four. I think tampa bay twenty-seven and your reasoning was that in your words Tom brady is basically as old as me. Now you're older than him okay. You're not the same. You're older than tom brady. Not the number. You are older than tom brady. But this was your reasoning. Yeah i just can't imagine anybody my age. Winning a super bowl seems ridiculous. I mean it happens every single year. The coaches the coaches on the sideline are older than they went. I i mean. I got forty three year. Old quarterback can't win the super bowl against patrick. Mahomes it's ridiculous. I got kansas city in a route. Give me casey. My mom's doing that super bowl square thing. My numbers real quick sent me this. Nobody cares about your stupid or his listeners. Are going to track of this. Tell us about your fantasy team next. I got Hey i want one to leagues. come at me one. Both leagues this year. I had about it. Yeah i'll tell you about this. Fantasy leagues i got chiefs. Eight bucks five so i need. I need tampa bay to win. Thirty five twenty eight. That's not my prediction. Then i got. I got chiefs seven bucks nine. That's not good. Not good with my mom was like. I need a few more squares filled. Ask help out my mom shots to my mom shops at daisy norlander. Wonderful human be orlando. yes go. Kansas city thirty five tampa seventeen route. We've had a lot of good super bowls in the past fifteen twenty years now that Patriots rams want a couple of years back was a dog. I think this one will be basically decided midway through the third quarter so you got closer. But yeah i got i got the chiefs in around chiefs thirty four bucks twenty seven. That's the official prediction. Here i will be playing chiefs minus three three and a half. Whatever i gotta do. And all the patrick mahomes props all all the patrick mahomes. Every patrick mahomes prop really not messing around. How many how how. Many patrick mahomes props. Are there out there. There aren't billions. I can promise you by the way speaking of billions we will get out of here finally started picking it up again with the wipe. That will be. We're gonna we're going to see more episodes tonight. We're midseason three when on like a unexpected form. But we're getting back into. It watched a couple episodes last week. Fired up about billions. I'm all caught up. i love love. Great show great show all right. All right we gotta go. We'll talk to you guys enjoy your weekend and we'll talk to you on sunday till then taking this is mark sanchez former. Nfl quarterback as a quarterback. I've always had the communicate with players on and off the field. Now that i'm retired. I've traded huddles for headphones with my new show for them forever every week. I'll sit down and talk football with some of the game's biggest stars. Do get to know your favorite football personalities from the players perspective you can find them forever on all major podcast platforms subscribe now.

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