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Golden State of Affairs: No Curry, No Klay. What's Next?

ESPN Daily

19:50 min | 9 months ago

Golden State of Affairs: No Curry, No Klay. What's Next?

"He's left wrist absolute lasting in take. That was the sound of bad going to worse the Golden State Warriors Warriors one of the best teams in NBA history. Now they're one of the worst teams in the League. It all happened so quickly but could it be a blessing in disguise. It's Wednesday November. Sixth this is espn daily presented by indeed. Nick you have a uniquely cinematic cinematic voice. So can you try to do a better version of this. What if I told you that the best team in the NBA would become the worst? What if I told you the best team in the NBA would become the worst? That really is a thirty for thirty TAGLINE WAITING TO HAPPEN NICK FIDEL covers the golden state warriors for ESPN. Okay Nick. I think it was last week. The that draymond green so eloquently summed up the state of the warriors right now. That's really the best way to it. Could you say Mr Green diagnosis is accurate. Yes no doubt. Meet people all around the league. They saw that that quote there were like wait. Wait wait what it's the warriors it's the warriors and the reality was even with a healthy dream on Steph. They were really we bad in for so many people for the last five years or so. who had watts his team dominate for so long there was a reality in the moment Omen that hey. This is not the same team that we've been watching the coaches and some of the staff members as people were were warm-up takes over the summer that they were just like what what what are people saying. I think they understood that there was going to be a lot of growing pains this year. And now all those pains have come to the forefront really really so during the off season you feel. There was a gap between the public perception of this team. The belief that they would still contend and the internal perception no question it was always for the warriors a gap year from the moment when go back to the finals. Kevin gets her Kevin Durant and then clay tears. ACL Well when you look at the way the roster was being constructed with nine guys who were twenty three years old or younger and you looked at the fact that they were hard capped apt and then they added de Ngelo Russell and you saw the pieces that were in play so many people on the outside went. Oh well you know what they still have Steph Jeff and they still have dream on and Klay. We'll be back at some point and people internally were like wait wait wait wait wait. Wait you have steph. WHO's GonNa have defenders all all over him all the time you've drawn who has struggled at times offensively and who knows if Claes can actually come back or not so all along? There was a there. It was a big difference in what the public perception of the words was this year. In the moment and what people inside the organization felt like it was going to be. Do you think that reality set in one clay got hurt tots hunting and Thompson brats. Now why pay me no. Let's go back in in time in. This goes back to about a year ago. Now now when K. D. and dream on got into that verbal back and forth at staples playing the clippers from that moment and even before that moment there were a lot of people in the organization. That were like. Kevin's probably gone. The thing that really sent this into a different path wasn't that Kevin got hurt because sadly the split was already pretty much done it felt like at least when Klay Thompson got hurt. That changed a lot of things because clay get being hurt that triggered triggered the de Ngelo Russell move. And then you're you're trading away Andrea Dolla. If clay doesn't get hurt maybe you keep big dollar. You don't hard cap yourself yourself this season you come into the new building with both healthy splash. Brothers and Draymond. When Klay got hurt that changed the way this season was going to be viewed? What expectations like first steph curry coming into this season Steph heard the chatter? Uh He always says that he doesn't pay attention to the outside sources me but that's ridiculous I mean he's he's a human being. He knows what's being said. He knew that everybody thought that this is going to be another. Mvp Year for him. He wanted to win the award. But I think Steph knew all along you take clay off the floor. And he's now the focal point with Steph. He knew as much as Kevin. I think drove people crazy easy sometimes within the organization. Nobody doubted just how phenomenal a player. He was Steph walking into this year. Hearing that everybody's saying it all this is your time to shine again. You're the MVP. I think he knew in the back of his mind all along. This is going to be very tough. I don't think the reality of Steph winning winning the award ever matched up to the expectations. They had to begin with. That's interesting to hear because you're right there was a perception or even a hope that we would get that full courier right because with K. D.. They've had to split some of the credit as well as the time during the regular season. And the idea of Steph unleashed. I was really intriguing to people. It was GONNA be awesome but people and this is going to be a recurring theme. When talking about the words they were living in the past people kept saying? Oh we'll steph. Is is incredible and he can do whatever he wants. He's one of the the very best players in the league. He's the best shooter I've ever seen in my life but when you're getting getting two and three bodies thrown at you at every play you're not gonNA play the same way next. This is is not a good basketball team. I feel comfortable saying with Steph out for a few months. Do you feel like the team should consider I am reluctant to use the word. But I'm going to say it. Should they tank leader okay. Let's go back to the night steph curry is grimacing. Emma seen holding what appears to be left risk he took Syria and warriors staffers for walking around and disbelief. They just could not believe that all these different injuries came down really at the at the same time. In the last six seven games they had played eight. I walked up to Joe Lake. The warriors owner walking out of the word locker room I said Joe what do you think about the injury and he said Hey I I saw it. I'm really sad about it but I'm an optimist and I think that this team now has a chance to see what these younger younger guys can do. And I think we'll come out of this okay and I said Joe You understand that once. This injury happened a lot of people around the League are GonNA ask about taking. How do you and media? He cut me off and he said what you say and I said Joe You understand understand that people are going to start asking about taking how do you he said what were to choose. And I said tanking in mean it was really clear earlier. He was trying to send a message to anybody around in the moment and anybody wondering what the warriors are going to do moving forward if they're going to take the answer was resounding no he just doesn't believe in it in this is a proud guy who just opened a billion and a half dollar Rena that a lot of people are invested into for a lot of two years but all that being said as much as I respect the attitude the reality for where the warriors are at is that's just packaging ACA Djing. We're not gonNA take look at the roster the roster isn't good this is not a team full of NBA caliber players. Frankly frankly so the takeaway for me is. This is one of the biggest blessing in disguise that this could be for the warriors coming up after the break how all of these injuries could actually be a boon for the warriors. Uh Del celebrates your small business. This season with the Black Friday sneak peek. Our biggest black Friday ever starts right now save save up to forty five percent on windows. Ten computers with Intel core processors before windows seven support ends January Fourteenth Two thousand twenty save on servers plus a huge selection of the electric's all with free shipping call 877-buy-dell to talk to a Dell Small Business Technology Advisor. Who can help you find just the right? Tech- that's 877-buy-dell Adele or visit Dell dot com slash business deals Nikki said these injuries could actually be beneficial long-term for the warriors. Why because they have a chance now in in developing younger players like Eric Paskal who I really like and rookie like Jordan Pool? Making a decision on de Ngelo Russell and then getting a high draft pick because that was included in the Brooklyn deal was one through twenty protected. Meena workers are going to have that pick so that takes on anywhere. They're gonNA GONNA have that pick. They're going to get a healthy steph. A healthy clay a healthy draymond back and then they can walk in the next year feeling like they have a legit chance again to contend. But in the moment whether you call it tanking or not Is is not as important to me as when you're looking at WHO's available to to play on a nightly basis and right now. Aside from a few exceptions the word is really fielding a G. League team in the moment. Have you ever seen anything anything like this in the NBA to go from being the Golden State Warriors Right five straight NBA Finals appearances three rings to being a team that Oh you just described as fielding G. League roster never in my life I've never I see a team go from the heights that they've been at over these last few years to watching a group of guys who were just trying to stay in in the league. This is a team last year. That a lot of people thought started the best single starting five of all time. When you go back to demarcus cousins being with Steph play draymond and durant so never and it's so interesting to me in listening to a guy like Damian Lillard and I talked to him about this the other day he is the star of the Blazers? He grew up in Oakland as a warriors fan and he said that the warriors there's have been first to do so many different things you you get all these stars on the same team win seventy three games you win all these titles. He's like they're also the first team to go through this to lose this many high caliber players in fish short of an amount of time. And that's the craziest parts of Leeming having watched the League for so long. It's not even like they have to start over because waiting in the wings are still steph in in clay and draymond when he's healthy but it's like they've hit pause and we're not used to seeing teens that are this dominant and this historically glee. Great be in a position to do that or have to do that in this case. Because of all these injuries with Steph out for some time and Klay Out Freedom More time dream on Greens really the only holdover right from peak warriors. How do you think he's handling this? And what do you think the season means to him cannot believe that he is the guy at the front of this situation. Meena and we got better. I'm not a coach so I'm not about to go watch a film itself but we can build on on this. I really don't give a damn about what we can build on. We suck denied and we gotta get better overall. He takes a lot of pride in the role but that doesn't mean that he just can't believe that that he's he's been thrust into this moment. After so many years question is as much as Draymond his beloved inside the organization do all these changes changes and all these injuries and all the ups and downs. Does that change at all that they may end up moving raymond somewhere else. I think that he has proven proven himself to be such a core piece of this team. But if you have a chance down the line and and somehow the words can land the honest that probably means saying goodbye abide draymond in some form or fashion. And that's the pipedream mean if you land on this team with with Stephan Clay Forget it. This is like Gadding K. D. in his prime years ago but Draymond loves the idea of being the teacher in being that guy who can provide such a a veteran I in in words of wisdom to younger guys but that's easy to say in the beginning of November. It's much more difficult to maintain that level after watching losses build and frustration. Build for really. Oh young team trying to find its way. I think it's safe to say that most NBA fans are enjoying sudden sudden demise of the warriors. What do you think the perception is around the League amongst players you mentioned Lillard coaches executives? How do they regard the warriors fall from Grace Grace? I think they're enjoying it just as much if not more than the fans. It's like for all the Karma the Good Karma that the warriors have used over the years he's now there getting a taste of what. Mba Reality is like for all the rest of these teams. You don't go out and win. Sixty plus games seventy three games as they did a few seasons ago. You don't have that kind of high level of success over and over and over like they did now. They have to adjust but in talking to to players and people from from other organizations. I think they're sitting there going. Yup Okay Warriors. Your time is up in now. You get to live like the rest of US nick. Despite all of this the injuries the struggles the roster do. Do you think this team could still sneak into the playoffs. No Hell No. Oh No no no Meena anybody who tries to sell Celje that I just just go sit down and have a drink with them and talk to him about something else. This team is not good enough right now. Even if this team played hard I still don't think they could win that many games just because the talent is there so no no. No no no this. This team is not going to. The playoffs are players sort of sensitive to the perception of the team. Right now no oh and I say that because I don't believe that there's anything else that they could do this happens in the NBA injuries happen. It's part of the League League the Organization in the success that has had over the last few years and writes off completely. I don't think that's the move either either and this is a team full of guys who really believe that not only is talent GonNa win output the culture. They've created. We'll help help push them forward in the future and help make them a better team and they are going to come in next year. Loving the idea hi dear of were the underdogs again. There are people out there who don't believe that we can do it in in the moment behind the scenes may not think. You'RE GONNA see a lot of Steph off and clay and Draymond as the those older father figures who are just trying to keep the spirits of these younger guys who are going to take these losses in at the moment but maybe they'll be better off for it down the line. Thanks Nick enjoyed it. You can watch the warriors take on the rockets tonight on ESPN. I'll be back with one more story at ESPN daily were covering the greatest sports stories in history. We know what makes the Dream Team. And when you're hiring for for your business you need the recruits will become champions. That's why you need indeed for Your Business. Indeed we'll help you find the best playmakers for your business with tools. Tools like online skills tests that help candidates show the perfect hire for you. Post your next job at indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily and try skills tests for free three. That's indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily terms conditions. Exclusions apply. That was a story you needed to know. Now here's one. I want you to know it's been a big week for the chargers after Los Angeles trounced Green Bay on Sunday. The Athletics Athletics Vincent Bonsignore reported that the team was considering a move to London in part because they haven't built a big fan base here in la which seems unfair. I live in La and there are chargers fans here. I know both of them. In any case owner dean spanos did not take kindly to the report and had this to say to reporters We're not going to London. We're not going anywhere for playing Los Angeles Bizarre home and is planning to be. The team also tweeted get a video of Leonardo di Caprio Wolf of Wall Street. The off memes seen retell staff. He is not leaving. It was the most iconic moment in the chargers Internet Internet history since two thousand seven when the account was run by a guy used to tweet things like quote. DVR The apprentice and more notably quote so hungry need to find my wife and head to PF changs by the way. If you don't know this story look it up now. I am extremely here for this new era of team accounts being spicy spicy online. But it does come with a level of risk who could forget how back in February after their rumors of the Arizona cardinals. Plan to trade quarterback Josh Rosen and they tweeted Josh our guy two months later. They traded Josh Rosen now. I'm not convinced. The chargers are leaving Los Angeles anytime soon. They obviously obviously want to move into their

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Golden State of Affairs: No Curry, No Klay. What's Next?

The Hoop Collective

20:06 min | 9 months ago

Golden State of Affairs: No Curry, No Klay. What's Next?

"If you guys get a chance you should take a listen to me kind of the ESPN daily podcast. She talked with Nick Free. Dial about the warriors present I and future so Well listen to me but if rebels involved I'm going to have to take a pass that he sold that left. Wrist is an absolute last thing in the bill. That was the sound of bad going to worse the Golden State Warriors One of the best teams in NBA history. Now they're they're one of the worst teams in the League. It all happened so quickly but could it be a blessing in disguise. I mean times. It's Wednesday November six this is espn daily presented by indeed. Nick you have a uniquely cinematic voice so can you try to do a better version of of this. What if I told you that the best team in the NBA would become the worst? What if I told as you the best team in the NBA would become the worst? That really is a thirty thirty tagline waiting to happen nick for Dell covers the Golden State Warriors for ESPN. Okay Nick. I think it was last week. That draymond green so eloquently summed up the state of the warriors. Reality is we right now. That's really the best. Where are you right now? Could you say Mr Green's diagnosis is accurate. Yes no doubt media people all around the league. They saw that quote and they were like wait. What it's the warriors it's the warriors? Listen the reality was even with a healthy dream on its stuff. They were really bad in for so many people for the last five five years or so. Who had what's his team dominated for so long? There was a reality in the moment that hey this is not the same team that we've been watching the coaches and some of the staff members. People were were warming up the takes over the summer means they were just like what. What are people saying? I think they understood that. There was is going to be a lot of growing pains this year. And now all those pains have come to the forefront really so during the off season you feel. There was a gap between the public look. Perception of this team the belief that they would still contend and the internal perception no question. This was always for the warriors a gap year from the moment Coleman go back to the finals Kevin gets her Kevin Durant and then clay tears. ACL When you looked at the way the roster was being constructed did with nine guys who were twenty three years old or younger and you looked at the fact that they were hard capped and then they added de Ngelo Russell and you saw the pieces that we're in play so many people on the outside went. Oh well you know what they still have steph and they still have draymond and Klay. We'll be back at some point point and people internally way wait you have steph. Who's going to have defenders all over him all the time you've got Draymond who has struggled at times offensively Sidley and who knows if Claes can actually come back or not so all along there was a there was a big difference in what the public perception of the warriors was this year in the moment and what people inside the organization felt like it was going to be? When do you think that reality set in? I think it was when clay got her hunting. The Dow tops grads his left knee now writhing compaign. Let's go back in in time in. This goes back to about a year ago now when K. D. Dream on got into that verbal back back and forth at staples playing the clippers from that moment. And even before that moment there are a lot of people in new organization. That were like Kevin's probably gone. The thing that really sent this into a different path wasn't that Kevin got hurt because sadly the split was already pretty much done. It felt like at least when Klay Thompson got hurt. That change a lot of things because clay get being hurt that triggered the de Ngelo Russell move and then your trading away Andrea Gonzala. If clay doesn't get hurt maybe you keep a dollar. You don't hard cap yourself this season you come into the new building with both healthy splash brothers and draymond. When clay got hurt? That changed the way this season was going to be viewed what expectations. -tations like for Steph curry coming into this season Steph heard chatter. He always says that he doesn't pay attention to the outside sources. I mean that's ridiculous. I mean he's a he's a human being he knows what's being said. He knew that everybody thought that this is going to be another. MVP VPN forum. He he wanted to win the award. But I think Steph knew all along you take clay off the floor in. He's now the focal point with Steph. If he knew as much as Kevin I think drove people crazy sometimes within the organization. Nobody doubted just how phenomenal. A player was so steph walking into this year. Hearing that everybody's saying Oh you know this is your time to shine again. You're the MVP. I think he knew in the back of his mind all along. This is going to be very tough. I don't think the reality of Steph. Winning the award ever matched up to the expectations. They had to begin with. That's interesting to hear because you're right. There was a perception or even a hope that we would get that full currier because with K. D.. They've had had to split some of the credit as the time during the regular season. And the idea of Steph unleashed was really intriguing to people. It was GONNA be awesome and but people and this is going to be a recurring theme. When talking about the words they were living in the past people kept saying? Oh well Steph is is incredible and he can do whatever he wants. He's one of the very best players in the league. Is the best shooter I've ever seen in my life but when you're getting two and three bodies thrown at you at every play you're not not gonNA play the same way nick. This is not a good basketball team. I feel comfortable saying with with Steph out for a few months. Do you feel like the team should consider. I am reluctant to use the word. But I'm GONNA say it. Should they take. Oh me too okay. Let's go back to the night steph. Got Her and curry is grimacing holding. What appears to be left wrist? It took me serious. Warriors staffers for walking around in disbelief. They just could not believe that all these different injuries it came down really at the at the same time. In the last six seven games they had played. I walked up to Joe Lake of the warriors owner walking out of the locker room. I said Joe. What do you think about the injury and he said? Hey I saw it i. I'm really sad about got it but I'm an optimist and I think that this team now has a chance to see what these younger guys can do. I think will come out of this. Okay and I said Joe Joe You understand that once. This injury happened a lot of people around the League are GonNA ask about tanking. How do you and meaning he cut me off and he said what did you say I said Joe You understand that people are going to start asking about taking how do you and he said what were did you use and I said tanking and mean it was really clear he was trying to send a message anybody around in the moment and anybody wondering what the warriors are going to do moving forward if they're gonNa take the answer was a resounding no he just doesn't believe in it in? This is a proud guy who just opened a billion and a half dollar arena that a lot of people are invested into for a lot of years but all that being said as much which is I respect the attitude the reality for where the warriors are at is packaging. We're not gonNA take look at the roster the roster oster isn't good this is not a team full of NBA caliber players. Frankly so the takeaway for me is. This is is one of the biggest blessing in disguise that this could be for the warriors coming up after the break Jake how all of these injuries could actually be a boon for the warriors del celebrates rates. Your small business. This season with the Black Friday sneak peek. Our biggest black Friday ever starts right. Now save up to forty five percent on windows. Ten computers with Intel core processors four windows seven support ends January Fourteenth Two thousand twenty save on servers plus a huge selection of the latest electronics. All with free shipping. Call eight seven seven by Dell talk to a Dell Small Business Technology Advisor. Who can help you find? Just the right tech- that's eight. Seven seven by Dell or visit Dell dot com slash business deals Nikki said these injuries could actually be beneficial. Shaw long-term for the warriors. Why because they have a chance now in developing younger players like Eric? Paskal who I really like and Ricky not like Jordan pool making a decision on de Ngelo Russell and then getting a high draft pick because that that pick that was included in the Brooklyn deal was one through twenty protected acted meter. The warriors are going to have that picked so that takes on anywhere. They're going to have that pick. They're going to get a healthy steph. A healthy Klay. Ah Healthy Draymond back. And then they can walk in the next year feeling like they have a legit chance again to contend but in the moment whether you call it tanking or or not is not as important to me is when you're looking at WHO's available to play on a nightly basis and right now. Aside from a few exceptions exceptions the warriors are really fielding G. League team in the moment have you ever seen anything like this in the NBA to go from being the Golden State State Warriors Right five straight NBA Finals appearances three rings to being a team that you just described as fielding G. League roster never in my life. I've never seen a team go from the heights that they've been at over these last few years to watching a group of guys who were just trying to stay in the league. This is a team last year. That a lot of people people thought started the best single starting five of all time. When you go back to demarcus cousins being with Steph play dream on and Durant so oh never in? It's so interesting to me in listening to a guy like Damian Lillard and I talked to him about this the other day he is the The star of the Blazers he grew up in Oakland as a warriors fan and he said that the warriors have been first to do so many different things. You you you get all these stars on the same team win seventy three games. You went all these titles team to go through this to lose this many high caliber players in fish short of an amount of time. And that's the craziest parts of Mimi and I haven't watched the League for so long. It's not even like they have have to start over because waiting in the wings are still steph and play and dream on when he's healthy but it's like they've hit pause and we're not used to seeing teams that are this dominant and this historically great being a position to do that or have have to do that in this case because of all these injuries with Steph out for some time and Klay out for even more time draymond grains really the only holdover over right from peak warriors. How do you think he's handling this? And what do you think the season means to him. You cannot believe that he is the guy at the front of this situation. Meena Lina and we gotta get better. I'm not a coach so I'm not about to go watch a film and sell we can build on this. I really don't give a damn about what we can build on. We suck tonight and we got agate better overall. He takes a lot of pride in the role but that doesn't mean that he just can't believe that that he's been thrust into this moment after so many years question is as as much as dream on his beloved inside the organization. Do all these changes and all these injuries and all the ups and downs does that change At all that that they may end up moving draymond somewhere else I think that he has proven himself to be such a core piece of this team. But but if you have a chance down the line and somehow the words can land the honest that probably means saying goodbye to dream aunt in some form or fashion. And that's the pipe dream. I mean if you lay on this team with with Steph and clay forget it. This is like Adam K. D. in his prime years ago but Draymond draymond loves the idea of being the teacher and being that guy who can provide such a a of veteran I in in words of wisdom to younger guys but that's easy to say in the beginning of November. It's much more difficult to maintain that at level after watching losses build and frustration build for really young team trying to find its way. I think it's safe to say that most NBA fans are enjoying your sudden demise of the warriors. What do you think the presumption is around the League league amongst players? You mentioned Lillard coaches executives. How do they regard the warriors fall from grace? They're enjoying it just as much if not more than the fans Meena. It's like all the Karma the Good Karma that the warriors have used over the years now they're getting a taste of what what. Mba Reality is like for all the rest of these teams. You don't go out and win. Sixty plus games seventy three games as they did a few seasons ago. You don't have that kind of high level of success over and over and over like they did now. They have to adjust but in talking to to players years and people from from other organizations. I think they're sitting there going. Yup Okay Warriors. Your time is up in now. You get to live like the rest of US nick. Despite all of this the injuries struggles the roster. Do you think the team could still sneak into the playoffs. Well No oh no no no no no Meena anybody who tries to to sell you on that I just just go sit down and have a drink with them and talk to him about something else. This team is not good enough right now. Even if this team played hard I still don't think they could win that many games I was just because the talent isn't there so no no. No no no no. This team is not going to the playoffs. They are players sort of sensitive to the perception of the team. Raina no and I say that because I don't believe that there's anything else that they could do this happens in the NBA injuries happen. It's part of the League the organization in the the success that it's had over the last few years and writes them off completely. I don't think that's the movie there and this is a team full of guys who really believe leave that not only is talent gonNA win output. The culture they've created will help push them forward in the future and help help make them a better team and they are going to come in next year loving the idea of where the underdogs again. There are people out there who don't believe that we can do it in the moment behind the scenes may not think you're gonNA see a lot of Steph and clay and Draymond as the those older older father figures who are just trying to keep the spirits up at these younger guys who are going to take these losses in the moment but maybe they'll be better off for it down the line. Thanks Nick enjoyed it. You can watch the warriors take on the rockets tonight on ESPN. I'll be back with one more story at ESPN daily elite. Were covering the greatest sports stories in history. We know what makes a Dream Team. And when you're hiring for your business you need the recruits. That will become champions. That's why why you need indeed for Your Business indeed will help you find the best playmakers for your business with tools like online skills tests that help candidates show the perfect hire for for you post your next job at indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily and try skills test for free. That's indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily terms terms. Conditions and exclusions apply. That was a story you need to know. Now here's one I want you to know and and it's been a big week for the chargers after Los Angeles trounced Green Bay on Sunday. The Athletics Vincent Monsignor reported that the team was considering a move to London in part because they haven't built a big fan base here in la which seems unfair. I live in L. A.. And there are chargers fans here. I know both of them. In any case owner Dean Spanos did not take highly to the report and he had this to say to reporters call. We're not going to London. We're not going any worse. We're playing Los Angeles Bizarre home and this plan into the team also tweeted a video of Arctic Afro. In Wolf of Wall Street the off name team seen retails a staff. He is not leaving. It was the most iconic moment in the chargers Internet history since two thousand seven when the account was run by a guy who used to tweet things like quote. DVR The apprentice and more notably quote so hungry need to find my wife and head to PF changs by the way. If you don't know this story look it up now. I am extremely here for this. New Era of team accounts being spicy online but it does come with the level of risk who could forget how how back in February after their rumors of the Arizona cardinals. Plan to trade quarterback Josh Rosen. They tweeted Josh's our guy two months later. Erc they traded Josh Rosen now. I'm not convinced. The chargers are leaving Los Angeles anytime soon. They obviously want to move into their new stadium here and while California has thirty three. PF changs.

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GSMC Basketball Podcast Episode 254: NBA finals Golden State Warriors vs Toranto Raptors and NBA News

GSMC Basketball Podcast

44:26 min | 1 year ago

GSMC Basketball Podcast Episode 254: NBA finals Golden State Warriors vs Toranto Raptors and NBA News

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We have finally here it is the NBA playoffs Golden State Warriors going for the three peat against the first ever team outside of the United States to ever make an NBA finals. We got the Toronto Raptors. Game. One is tonight. And the first thing that I noticed about this. Was how it became one of those things where Canada had really just gotten behind Toronto and you hear about Drake and you see Jurassic Park and all the people that are surrounding, and then I saw the survey that was done. And it sucked the crap out of me actually it didn't shock the crap out of me, but it's surprise me. There was it's obvious that Canada is behind Toronto, but there was a survey done, and they pulled all fifty states of who do you want to see when the NBA championship? And I was surprised. Forty seven states out of fifty pick Toronto, so not only this Canada want to see Toronto win. But the United States wants to see Toronto win. So forty seven of the fifty states. The only two states that voted for seeing Golden State Warriors went again. Was California and the Vada which pretty much everybody in Nevada. They're kinda from California pretty much majority of the people are Californians or close enough considering I live in California here. And the one thing that made me think is. Why is quite Leonard even thinking about leaving their already in the finals? They have a really great team. And the one thing you get when you play for Toronto is you get the love of an entire country. Canada is going to love Kuwait, Leonard forever. He has a chance by winning this championship. Quiet Leonard kid, be the king of Canada and the king. Of the United States, having to countries that back you that means. You are instantly a global icon, you look around. And even when he even when he retires Canada will steal love him. Matter of fact, thence Carter left Canada, and they still love him. So it is something to think about seeing what I'm seeing here. I don't think you could get that anywhere else. Toronto has lost their mind over the Toronto. Raptors Canada has lost her mind over Toronto Raptors and it makes for a very interesting. Series here. Now when you start diving into the game. You start thinking, okay? What are the keys to winning this game? And I'm also going to tell you guys who I think is gonna win. And I'm gonna tell you why. When you think about Golden State Golden State's plan is early on is not necessarily the shutdown coli it's gonna be to play solid defense. On everyone. But if quite gets off he gets off. They're not going to try to control quite early on allow him to do a coup. Why does. But as the game gets late the big thing that they're going to try to do is. Try to really press Kawai in the fourth when a quiet is. At its most dangerous allow him to burn himself out in the first second and third quarters. But in fourth quarter start pressing him put dream on him. Putting clay on him double teaming him forcing the game plan is to force the ball out of his hands and force guys like Marcus all or Fred van Velde to beat them, but not let Hawaii beat them in fourth. They don't care choir goes off, for forty in the first three quarters as long as they force that ball out of his hands. In the fourth quarter that is the game plan that Golden State is gonna go with now Houston, not Houston. Sorry about that. Toronto. Their game plan say Houston on the brain because of all the talk about the trades and trading their entire roster of which we'll talk about shortly. After this segment here. But in order for Toronto win Toronto has to be smart. And that means slow the pace down, you can't beat no one can beat Golden State by having a shootout. If it's. If it's of Toronto of it's one fifteen one twenty I'm gonna tell you that as a loss. The game plan is to slow the game down. Make it a tough gritty game playing solid defense. The big thing is to pace Kowa Leonard, you don't want Hawaii going off, and burn himself out James harden did in which you spend so much energy in that first and second third quarter, but then can answer Bill in the fourth quarter and that's exactly what Golden State wants him to do. So being able to slow the pace down. Make it a measure pace make the game a very tough defensive game cannot give up. They're going to have to play solid defense. They can't play them the way Toronto played Jaanus where. You let you let him get open for threes because Golden State is degraded. Three point shooting team in history. If you start pushing them back, but you're not covering that thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen foot shot, Golden State will kill you not to mention the next thing you need to do is no matter how big of lead, you have you cannot get lax with them. You have to consistently. Play solid defense throughout this whole series of entire playoffs. Golden State has been behind. Numerous occasion, ten fifteen points down, and they just come back and win, because they can close a gap, so fast just one little period of time where you're lax and Toronto can look see a big giant lead disappear. Just like the trailblazer saw just like the Houston Rockets saw. It's about playing consistent, and that's the reason why they have to pay some self. They got a slow this game down. Make it so that it becomes a war of attrition where it's they want this game to be. Ninety five ninety eight you wanted to be, so you don't want to be. And a run up and down the court type game because that benefits. Golden state. Now, when you think about this, when I started looking at this, and I say, who I think's going to win and why? I look at this game and. I am taking Toronto to win the series. And this is the reason why. First off. Golden State has been off, they're actually going to be they've given up field advantage to Toronto this year. That homefield advantage is going to be big. It is going to be crazy. The energy is going to be high. I clearly expect Tronto to win game one. With that boogie cousins is coming back as well. So Golden State where they had this rhythm. That was working really well for them. Now, they're going to have to figure out how to work in DeMarcus cousin, this isn't. The regular season. This is one of the tough things that Steve Kerr was saying, if was a regular season game one we just put him in there and just say the heck with it. He's playing twenty twenty five minutes. Antill. We work him in, but this is the NBA finals. And if you try to force boogie cousins into this into this game, it's going to throw off the rhythm necks, if Tronto goes up game one they figure out they win game two. Now you have a situation where they're going to bring. Kevin Durant back. Now, you gotta figure out how to work in Kevin Durant, and Marcus cousins into a team who has been flowing through the playoffs because they haven't been there. So now you're trying to figure out how to work these guys back in. And yes, they had been playing for a while. But these are seven footers and they have to work themselves back in the game shape. They have to they are. They're both also coming off of lower extremity injuries, which means being able to loosen up joints and muscles. Just getting into that, that rhythm getting in game shape is going to take longer than the playoffs is going to be around. It's enough to really throw things off. And that's the reason why I am taking Toronto to win in six games. Now with that being said, if Kevin Durant was one hundred percent healthy and Marcus cousin was one hundred percent healthy that went through the playoffs, and they were totally playing like the Golden State Warriors were playing before the injuries. I would have taken Golden State all day and five or six games. But the fact that you're going to try to introduce one to two players into the series. I think is going to be a little more than Golden State is, is going to be able to do clay. And, and Steph curry is not going to have the same. Openings that they were gonna that. They're used to having because the whole flow is going to change it changes differently when Kevin Durant out there. It changes differently when Marcus cousins is out there. The Marcus cousins fills in a lot more in the middle where Draymond green likes the cut and drive down to the whole. It's takes time. Yes. They're used to plan that way. But it takes time to adjust back to once you've been playing this way without these guys to adjust with them. In that adjustment period that takes it into a situation where you could literally see a situation where they're down oh to going back into. Or co in the bay area and Durant comes back and now you're trying to really force grant back in that could get them into a whole. This is the reason why I am taking. Toronto Raptors to win and six and it is confirmed. The DaMarcus cousin will be playing and tonight's game. I'm very curious to see how much he is going to be playing in this game. But like I said you heard it here. I got the upset I got Team Canada. Who's gonna win the Toronto? Raptors gonna win in six games. When we come back, we're going to talk about a team that didn't win at all at all. Matter of fact, it's time to blow the team up. We're gonna talk about the Houston Rockets and the fact that del Maury has just made a statement about the fact that the entire team is officially on the clock and available for trade stay tune, we will be back. You'll do it right. To get your hands on tools. You can count on. And at lower prices lows, does it, right? To it. Savings during craftsman days. Hurry in and take advantage of great deals like a craftsman twenty volt max for two combo, featuring a drill impact driver. 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Get the latest football move both on and off the field from the NFL draft to treats to the rumor mill to the NFL combines. They got you covered. That's GMC podcast dot com slash footfall dash podcast get updates. I'm college. Why these key insights, and much much more. It's football talk the way you want it. This show sleeps and breathes football don't forget to like on Facebook and follow them on Twitter, visit yes MC, podcasts dot com. For more info. All right. We're back. Do just talk about the Golden State Warriors vs is Toronto Raptors game one night. I gave you my keys to gang and why I am taking Toronto to win the NBA championship over the Golden State Warriors stopping them from reaching their three peat goal. Now. This week. Dera Maury of the Houston Rockets. Made a pretty bold statement. He made it announcement that. There is it's come time to make some changes to the team and that all players. Are up for trade. Chris Paul James harden. Clint cappella PJ Tucker. Eric gordon. Everybody is up for trade. Now he did stop as far as say. It'd be kinda hard to believe are hard to imagine a situation where they would trade James harden, but pretty much. Everyone else is fair game. And when you start thinking about that. And you say. Wow, that's shocker. And I look at this and I say, why, why break this team up and I know the flushed ration- is cannot get past Golden State, but I tell you that the best decision is the state, of course, the best decision is the state, of course, because there is a very, very good chance that Kevin Durant will not be with the with the Golden State Warriors next year. That changes the whole dynamic, and the teamed, currently constituted could be good enough to win a championship. Now. One of the things if I was gonna make a change with the Houston Rockets. It would be to get rid of dantonio, Dan, Tony system has been proven to fail. When it comes to play off time I remember looking looking at Phoenix. Couldn't do it. New York couldn't do it Lakers. Couldn't do it. He that offense you have to be able to play defense, you have to be able to rain, nj harden. And that's the big thing. Big problem, when it comes to the Houston Rockets, when it comes to playoffs James harden, has no, no control. No one has teaches him how to play well with others. And what I mean by play. Well, with others, is that simple fact that whenever the ball is being handled by. Chris Paul, the offense is going through Chris Paul pay attention. He shuts down. He is not engaged when they're on defense. He's not engaged. In order to win a championship. You have to be engaged on offense at all times. When you're on when you're in the playoffs, and you're trying to contend for a championship you have to play defense. You, you look at the warriors and you say Steph curry may not be the greatest defensive player, but he tries to play defense and the rest of the team is one of the best defensive teams is one of the most underrated things about the Golden State Warriors, is the fact that they play solid defense, and they play solid defense for four quarters. That's the reason why I say. Get rid of Dan. Tony also another reason why you look around, and you say, Dan, Tony is the best decision. You're not gonna get anything for Chris Paul. The only thing you can do either just get rid of Chris Paul. Because when you look at harden and Chris Paul's contract. Nets year account for seventy percent. Of the team salary the year after that they count for seventy one percent the year after that they count for seventy three percent. Chris poll by the time his contract's up. He's twenty seven. He's way passes. He's already past his prime. Are you really going? Do you do you really see anyone? That is trying to make a run going to acquire a hundred and forty million dollar contract. When you look at this team and you say the Houston Rockets, have one of the highest payrolls if not, I I'm don't quote me on this, but I think they may have the highest payroll and basketball if not they're one of the top three teams at the highest payroll. But here's the biggest problem when you look at this team there to open team in NBA, when you look at the look at the contracts, and you say a year and, and Chris Paul is about one hundred twenty four million three years left on it before hundred twenty four million. You got Chris Paul at thirty eight point five million dollars. He's already thirty four. He'll be thirty five by the time to season by the time midway through the season. The next year. He's thirty six. He's thirty seven by the time they finally get out of that contract. It's a poison pill that I don't think there's anyone that's going to want it. James harden. At thirty seven point eight million. He's aged thirty. But if you trade dreams harden, what are you have left with his team? James harden, is not going to go anywhere. There Lakers aren't going to go and say, hey, LeBron for James harden. I've heard that talked about there is no way the Lakers are going to do that. So when you look at that James harden, his thing, Chris Paul is staying because no one's gonna want Chris Paul. He's an older player with a hundred and twenty four million dollars left on his contract, and he's lost two or three steps. The tractive one is Clint Capella at sixteen point four million twenty five years old. That is your most attractive piece, but he's also the piece that is the most attractive. But he's also the most promising peace at only sixteen point four million. It's he's under multiple years contract. Young. Why would you get rid of Clinton? Pella, Erik Gordon fourteen point one. He's thirty one years old PJ Tucker, PJ Tucker's, an attractive piece. He's thirty four but only eight point three million. That's an attractive contract, then as at three point eight he's thirty seven and then as far as rat picks go, they don't really have any major draft picks to speak of, how do you break this team up without destroying the team? I feel like any move that you make. To redo this team, which is too old, and too expensive just set yourself up to destroy a potentially championship team because without. Steph curry, do you, not give the Houston Rockets shot? Do you not give the Houston Rockets shot against Iran raptors because I do. So break in his team up, I think is a bad decision but. You have a situation where dome Maury is desperate for championship. And he is willing to do whatever it takes to get a championship. We're going to take a break when we come back, I'm gonna give you the latest news on Mr. Kyrie Irving. There are some reports out there. The kyri is getting close to a decision and there is some smoothing going on. 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Is Chris Paul who's too old into expensive. And James harden is a piece that would just blow the franchise up. If you got rid of him. So they're in a rock in a hard place. I suggested getting rid of dantonio the coach. Speaking of changes to an organization. There is a guy who everyone is starting to put the pressure on. And the recruiting pitch. Has come to career. Ving. Last week. There was reports the brawn James had dinner would kyri Irving. Magic Johnson talked about how he would like to see Kyrie Irving come to Los Angeles Lakers. And now. The word comes out that. Kyrie irvings mentor, the guy he looks up to the most is now recruiting kyri to come to the Los Angeles Lakers. That is Kobe bean. Bryant the Black Mamba. The one person that has a lot of say he has a lot of career respect. Is Kobe Bryant. He's talked about that Mamba mentality. Many a times this is a very interesting situation because there's there are some reports saying that. The two front runners are the Brooklyn nets in the Los Angeles Lakers, and that the Knicks have fallen behind and it's looking close to those two teams. And if that's the case if you're looking around and you're saying. What do you want between Brooklyn and the Lakers? Yes, you can say the Lakers have a lot of drama going on. But the Lakers are set to win Chiriqui go he can go back and join LeBron a person that he knows a person that he has had a lot of success with. A guy that he has realized that he handle wrong, and as contacted him in policies, and MRs what he had with the Braun. But this wouldn't be to Cleveland. Situation because of the fact that the Lakers would have LeBron they would have kyri but an interesting thing, if kyri did go to the Lakers, you would have a situation where right now when you look at the Lakers, they only have five guys on their roster. That's it. They have LeBron James. They have Lonzo Boral they got Brandon Ingram cow Kouzmin and Josh heart Rondo and the rest of the crew are gone. They can go out if kyri came there, they got plenty of room, if they wanted to keep the current team in tat. They could go for some and one Brown. Lebron with some shooting you could bring kyri and. You can bring Seth curry not Steph curry, but Steph curry, you go after JD Rettig, or Trevor Reza, or Danny green in which you could actually put together a team with Lonzo kyri ball Ingram curry JJ Rettig, or Riza where you'd have the shooting carrying LeBron would handle the ball that is a championship team there or option. Two is you could package up ball or Ingram Kouzmin you can pay in fourth. Pick you could either put one or two of them you two or three of them, you pack Jamal and end up with their own personal big three which a number of executives are starting to think there's been word the number executives are starting to think that the Lakers, we'll get a big three that they're gonna get Anthony Davis. Carrie and the brawn James in Los Angeles. And then that is a championship team to speak of. We're going to take another break. When we come back, we're going to talk about Anthony Davis because we were just talking about how he would be the perfect fit will when we come back, we're going to talk about that stay tuned, and we'll be back. You'll do it right. To get your hands on tools. You can count on. And at lower prices lows does it right to savings during craftsman days per unit? Take advantage of great deals like a craftsman twenty volt max for two combo kit, featuring a drill impact driver. 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The guy he looks up to Kobe Bryant and the word is out that pretty much is been narrowed down to the Brooklyn nets and the Los Angeles Lakers for where kyri wants to go the lent his services. When you think about it. And you say you look at the pieces that they have if kyri went there with the Braun and kyri you could package up a deal that would send LeBron James main Lonzo ball or Brandon Ingram or cow coups are Josh hard are all for those guys minus LeBron that is to New Orleans pelicans for Anthony Davis. That is a very interesting. Team. That's a team that could win and. Especially with the news that David Griffin, who has been consistent saying, consistently saying that he thinks he can get Anthony Davis to stay. Well. David Griffin met with Anthony Davis had a nice little meet and greet just to introduce himself. What the purpose of showing Anthony Davis that this is not your old New Orleans pelicans. We got Cihan come in and you and Zych Zion will be this force to reckon with, and how they've, they've really improved their medical staff is no longer using a foot of football team's medical staff. The New Orleans Saints. They have their own how they're all these improvements. That's going on. But after the meeting. When you start looking at things. The word Gat back the day of notified David Griffin that Anthony Davis has not changed his mind. He wants out of New Orleans. This is putting. A techy situation because there's a limited time on, how long you can hope keep this going on David Griffin wants to have another meeting with Anthony Davis to pitch him on how we want you to stay what we can do to keep you here. And what we can do to make you this global star was Zion. But it's not working. Anthony Davis wants out the damage has been done. He has been a star and a little market, and he wants to go to LA or New York. There's talk that Boston is interested in New York is talking about packaging up there. Pick that third pick and whatever they can do, but I still tell you, if you take personal feelings aside of what the New Orleans pelicans or front office feels about the Lakers. The best offer out there is what the Lakers can put together that fourth pick, and you pick your guy between heartened, coups Mon and Ingram and ball. That's a team that you could turn things around and really start your franchise going in the right direction, you would have Zairian let's say, you know, and you add those Lakers pieces. And that's a solid rebuilding organization right there. But if they and I feel like David Griffin has this approach that I can wait to the trade deadline get rid of him? But if you wait to the trade deadline, the offers that are going to be available are going to be significantly less. If kyri goes to the Lakers, which I do think he's going to go to the Lakers. If kyri goes to Lakers, and is LeBron kyri and coups. Mon and Ingram and balls healthy and they're really light in a world on fire. You could have a situation where all of a sudden those offers that were put out there are no longer there. And you may have to settle on an offer or send him somewhere that he doesn't wanna go. An end up with a fraction of what you could've gotten because you could fleece the Lakers right now and get pretty much that entire young core for Anthony Davis, the Lakers won a big three and they're willing to give up everything to get it. And I think I think the New Orleans pelicans should take it with that. We're gonna be rapid. We're going to wrap things up here because we got the game that's going on tonight. Very looking forward to it as I have the Toronto Raptors winning this game game one. I also have them winning the series in six games. I'll be back on tomorrow to tell you if I was right or wrong. No matter what, I'll be here. With that. Enjoy the game. 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"Are you hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes? Set up screener questions then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today at indeed dot com slash podcast. That's indeed dot com slash podcast. Bruce n last the podcast. Reminder same awards. He thought about it for a while. And I talked about this ongoing WinCo we take you up to every Monday through Friday thought about becoming nuggets fan for the second half of the season. And still very interested is a very good basketball team. They've been first place in the Western Conference for the vast majority of the first half of the season. But it's always come with the Astra's like, but we know the warriors can come out and do this. But we know that at any point in time they are capable of doing something like they did last night. Which in case you missed it on their way to a blowout victory. One forty two one eleven in Denver over the nuggets. Golden State had a league high and franchise high fifty one first quarter points. Pouring in ten ten three pointers in that first quarter, which is another franchise record for any quarter. According to ESPN, stats and info like this is a warriors team that came out with a message. And this is the one thing that we always talked about was how much are we supposed to take stock in what the warriors struggles of like whether it's been Draymond green. Whether it's been some of the other Nixon bumps along the way for this team, general apathy lethargy all this build up from years in long runs into the postseason and championships already one in this idea that their dominance is been so secure. And then it really have to worry until we get to March, and we try and find ways, and we try and find reasons to doubt them, and then you get a night like this. That reminds you that when they are motivated and locked in. And I believe this was a case of motivation year. Steph curry talk about their mindset in the first quarter with Scott van pelt on sportscenter last night respect that we had come into the game was we had to get off to a start against this plan as well as never has in this building then expect obviously they won. But the purpose about how we create its. It's an confidence. Everybody had taken him. It was it was fun and everybody fed off each other's momentum, and aggressiveness, and we really decisive moving the basketball everybody getting touches and clay, Katie was perfect seven first-quarter. Klay was was hot from three. I got some looks and we got stops to which which is big for us to get off on the right foot. I guess never. I won last Michael junior here on ESPN radio were presented by progressive insurance. Drivers you switch to progressive conceive an average of six hundred sixty eight dollars. But I it's it's more than that. Like you hear Steph curry, obviously, that's the mindset you go into a game like that. But Golden State reminds you this is our ceiling is when we go in with that mindset. Yeah. You don't expect a fifty one point first quarter. But it's possible with them like no one looks up at that. Even for them and says man, that's that's a once in a lifetime type thing it may be a franchise record. But this is the kind of stuff Golden State does. And I saw this quote from Steph curry that I thought really is the one that should send shivers down people spines is we've been paying attention. We know who's been playing well, and to be honest. We haven't played as well against playoff teams in the west. We want to kind of correct that going into the last half of the season. So this big night for us to continue to build momentum. We wanna be able to carry this and put a light nice little street together. And we're doing it. He says I think they know who we are. Kevin Durant echoing that sentiment. So this is not a team that you wanna see motive. But we know these struggles in the I say struggles in air quotes because it's relative to the Golden State success have been enough in the first half of the season for people to try and out. Like, we always do. And it's like what we do with the patriots in the regular season in the NFL. And it's like what we'll do. I'm sure next year the minute, we d- any sign of weakness from Alabama coming off that national championship beat down. But the bottom line is still this is then you get reminded of the ceiling every once in a while. Then the patriots go out rush. The ball of the chargers, then Golden State comes out drops fifty one and a quarter Klay Thompson who looked absolutely unconscious for a lot of that first half talking about the fifty one point that first quarter of all movement. Defensive intensity and. The hunger to redeem ourselves from last time we played he wasn't pretty lost and a close tie one. And that's crazy. I know house record. That's impressive. First and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio. That's that's that's the other part of the warriors. None of that matters to them either. Because like we talked about the other day everyone's marker for success is different. You've got James harden who is in the midst of a personal streak of a record setting streak as far as points in game thirty point outings and other fifty point outing for him the other night, but not all that inclined to sit up there and talk about it at length because he understands at this point now with an MVP all that personal success. If the talk is too loud, we come and ask about rings. Golden State doesn't have to worry about any of that. Golden State doesn't have to worry about rings. Golden State really largely doesn't have to worry about a lot of the individual reputations for guys like Kevin Durant for guys like Steph curry how you could even lump clay and drain on in there. Although I have a feeling that there might be some things in their mind left approve. And that's where this it's interesting, quite frankly. And as I mentioned today, we'll McKay are ESPN NBA analysts gonna join us at five o'clock eastern. And I am interested what the talk is around league circles because as we look for the thing that breaks Golden State up we're getting close to that point. And we always figured it was going to be the threat of paydays versus the pain of the luxury tax for that organization, and for guys who want to prove and certainly Kevin Durant. Gonna fall into that range of guys who may still because of the level of his greatness wants something. To prove the guy Who Wasn't There before the way Steph. Curry was the guy who wasn't a part of that original big three and Golden State that we know when out there and set a regular season wins record and had a championship onto their belt already. You start to try and gain this and say who is motivated by what? And how could that potentially break this up because it seems like the only chance that we have right now when you look out at a rocket team and you look at the timing of all this in the season. All the warriors struggles if you could package that if you're the warriors and say, let's slump. Let's let's get through all of the pain of Draymond green. Being a self check guy defensively during a lot of the first half of the season any sort of bickering any sort of injuries that they've dealt with know away in the first half of the season. And now watching the second half of the season as the rockets are without Clint Capella for an extended period of time, if they've already dealing with Chris Paul out in that as now in the Western Conference, you go on the road and show that team that we've been talking about all season is you need to start paying more attention to the nuggets. Golden State says well, maybe not necessarily all of those things you can keep track of down the stretch of the season. We will start to do what everyone else that we've heard in the NBA has been doing for a while which is look for what finally knocks off Golden State from within because they seem like the only ones capable of beating themselves, and then try and plan the best you can for what comes next, and we heard that most teams have been structuring their lives and their off-season and their acquisitions around what to do in two thousand and nineteen MBA free agency. And last night. He's a reminder of why last night is a reminder that they have got a handful of guys that can kill you. In addition to being one of the top to bottom most skilled teams that we've ever seen all of that. Setting a major tone for the second half of the year. Which is exactly what they were looking to do to reminder of when this team is motivated, and this team is on a mission the things that they are capable and they still don't have boogie back first. And last the podcast. Indeed knows it's hard to find qualified candidates when you're hiring. It's like finding a unicorn, but when you post your job on indeed, it's easy to find people with the skills, you need nurse practitioner for plus years experience acute care certification. Indeed has a huge pool of amazing candidates. And screener, tools that help you? Find your most qualified applicants an entire shortlist of unicorns. Now could a fifty dollars credit to give your first job. Posting premium placement at indeed dot com slash credit. Terms, conditions, quality standards and usage limits apply. Additional terms online. And last the podcast. What does it tell you about the NFL off-season the impending NFL offseason that Nick foles is going to end up being a headline Nick foles a for having some degree of? Control over his destiny and for be being a coveted quarterback going into this NFL all season when you look at what we dealt with last year versus this year. This what this Nick foles situation wreaks of case keenum, right? Like this as far as the outcome that we can expect next year, it reeks of case keenum. And now Nick is obviously a guy who has accomplished today level much higher. Although case keenum wall-to-wall starter last season. He was a guy that when Minnesota and the Vikings had their great run were a team that put themselves in a position to be a Super Bowl pick for this year for a lot of people coming out of the NFC. Was a big reason why while the wall started last year as opposed to Nick foles who came out in that relief role for Villanova. But we know this offseason is going to be fine. A different team first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app you get in touch with us. Michelle Pennzoil performance line that number eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six. We're brought to you by Pennzoil synthetics. Get triple action protection for optimal engine performance with shell v power nitro plus premium gasoline, so I don't know if I I'm just more cognizant of it this year or not, but the exit meetings from head coaches GM's, and the like seemed to be giving us a lot more than usual. Also. Because some of these situations are a little bit more than usual when you had something like the eagles have had over the last two years this strange run where you've got the franchise in the future in Carson Wentz in your quarterback room. Now, a guy that you drafted a guy that Doug Peterson got to come in. With is getting a chance to groom all the way up is young is strong is everything that you look for and hope when these teams go into the the group's lab. Last year five first round quarterbacks drafted you. Hope they have a chance of becoming to your organization. What Carson Wentz has been which is not only been on the field when he's healthy and MVP caliber quarterback. But also a guy that by all accounts behind closed doors is everything you expect these CEO type quarterbacks to be face of the franchise guy. That's going to be first. And last out guy that's going to lead your meetings. Do all these things check every cliche box the way you have to as an NFL quarterback. Like we joke, but cliches all come from a very real place and in the quarterback room. It might be the most necessary place for a lot of those. But with these success that Nick foles had it's prompted a lot of strange discussion to the point where Doug Peterson has to come out after the season and answer. The question about is Carson Wentz the guy when you've had Nick foles come in help when you a Super Bowl and get you back to the playoffs and get you a win this season. Yes, of course is the quarterback going forward. And the next case listen. We would love to have everybody back throughout the roster. But as I've said, many many times, you know, it's not about one guy. You know, it's about the team. And we're going to do what's best for the team. And doing what's best for the team is Carson Wentz, we're getting dangerously close to a place where I thought the power of winning in sports will make us do crazy things like what we're able to justify through wins and losses and one other owner slash GM slash old man decision maker in the NFL. I feel like is as much victim of that. As anyone else in that franchise. That neighbors them in the NFC the Dallas Cowboys as much victim of that as anyone else. But. When you look at what the eagles have managed to accomplish you understand why it's been made complicated because winning in the playoffs you amplify that even more for the regular season wins. The Cowboys have benefited from Jason GARRETT'S benefited from the eagles have a Super Bowl in large part because of this guy. But we know he's not going to be there. We know to an extent it's going to be what terms does he want to go out on? He has that two million dollar buyout. Does Nick foles that would allow him to test true free agency. The eagles can also pick up that twenty and a half million dollar option. Try and trade something for them. Get value. Get Nick foles that twenty and a half million dollar contract. And the good faith that would go behind that negotiation would depend in large part on his relationship with Howie Roseman and the rest of that organization. Here was Howie Roseman. The eagles vice president talking yesterday about Nick foles, we would love to keep Nick false. I mean, you talk about a guy who we drafted year, and we've grown incredibly close with. I'm not that wouldn't want Nick foles on their roster. So certainly as we go into the substance of those discussions, we haven't had them yet. But there's no question we'd love to have a Nick foles as an eagle in Philadelphia. And we'd love to keep them. I am I asked Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the. ESPN app. I was shocked Nick foles only turning thirty. And if you days. Nick foles, a guy that seems considerably older than that, you could say is an old soul. At this point. We feel like he's been around so many different versions of himself in the NFL at this point that he is he is a veteran. He falls into that range. And maybe it's me projecting my own age onto this, and it feeling odd that guys that are my peers are veterans in the NFL at this point. But that's what Nick foles is. And so now he's going to command that kind of respect this offseason a guy with a Super Bowl MVP on his resume. Where's the best landing spot for Nick foles, this off-season because how listen how he will Roseman was right? We'd love to Nick foles on the team. It was great having falls on the team for seven million dollars. This last year, not as easy at twenty and a half. When you got the franchise coming back who's going to have a healthy off season. Like, we need to keep this in mind for the eagles. Carson Wentz is going to look very good next year. Carson Wentz is going to be healthy for an entire offseason doing football things and not doing knee rehab things. He is. Going to make the eagles right on this in a way that we are maybe neglecting right now because of the immediacy of Nick foles success down the stretch of the season. But as far as Nick foles and a team that's gonna benefit from him. That becomes the next question because this offseason we've talked at length about the lack of marquee free agent quarterbacks. When you talk about the names on the market. It's going to be Joe flacco, it could potentially be UI manning. It's going to be Nick foles. Teddy Bridgewater, maybe RG three. None of these names seem to put their neck above the rest, with the exception of maybe Joe flacco just because they're Super Bowl pedigree. But for guys that are on the older end. Then you've got Nick foles, and what can he be for your team? Now, I think the answer is pretty easy and all this. I heard. Something countered that yesterday. We'll Cain hosted the wo- Cain show on ESPN radio here. Every Monday through Friday who he thought was the best fit Nick foles played under Pat Shurmur had one of his best seasons of Pro Bowl season. Under Pat Shurmur the Jaguars are the best team. That's when most ready to compete. You would think, but Nick foles not necessarily familiar with what they've been doing Jacksonville. So that means you probably best fit just think put yourself Nick foles situation, which one checks the box for me if I'm a free agent. I'm getting to pick where I wanna go, and you're gonna come back to the giants first last year on ESPN radio unless will is known or heard something I don't the giants make absolutely zero sense for a team that's going to try and go young quarterback in the next probably year. I mean, we all magin they're going to take Dwayne Haskins and the upcoming draft at six if they've got their druthers. This is a team that needs to get young their ally. Manning is do I think about sixteen or seventeen million dollars this season? So he's a relative bargain bin veteran quarterback for you. And for Nick foles the question. Then becomes what kind of deal is he going to get this off season. Because will is right Jacksonville. Makes infinitely more sense. A more winnable division with a defense that's built to counter what some of those other teams have built on offense. The Denver Broncos, quite frankly with that defense and the clock ticking on that side of the ball could be a better fit in team in need of his services. The giants unless you're going to be able to get Nick foles on a two year deal that ends up being a sort of Mike, Mike Glennon Sam Bradford type of team friendly deal makes absolutely zero sense for those guys right now given their current situation. Given a guy manning they've got familiarity with a good price tag on. And can ultimately be that bridge. And I believe they want to be that bridge to the next generation of giant quarterbacks first and last the podcast first. And last the podcast Joe. So I have a question for you. How's your Hammy doing listen? So for anyone that missed it, Cody. Arkie missed field goal. The field goal challenge in Chicago. If you haven't seen it already you pay zero attention to ESPN, it's Twitter because I was all over getting mocked mercilessly for schenken the hell out of that kick. I'm doing good. I came out of it uninjured. I didn't fall down and cleared the fence that's all I cared about. Which fence are you talking about like, oh baby fence that was surrounding the little thing. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. That was seven tall fence. At least. Oh my gosh. I'm saying even touch your toes. You know, you're an old line guy. I'm surprised you could even touch you too. We'll see. So this is what I was always told me March layer used to work here as longtime NFL offense of Lyman said offense of Lyman don't have hamstrings. They had ham cords. Show pulling that is next to impossible that being said since my playing days I have downgraded back to a hamstring. And I'm happy that it's still intact. And I thought I was really scared for your bend and snap. Like, you're gonna bend snap. Really? No. The the real life Bendon snap one thirty. Not as good as I respect the effort, though. Good job. I'm out here trying that's all I can say that I'm doing this. You know, what it is the ceiling for me in crazy high anymore right now like I have long since passed that high water Mark of my athletic career. You obviously Chennai grew McKay for those who don't know our ESPN NBA analysts. Also, current WNBA star for the Connecticut sun here WNBA all-star, former number one overall pick out of Stanford. So as Bobby carpenter and save the full genetic potential for you, hire still miss him. And as you mentioned, the ceiling the ceiling in the words of MJ's the roof for you, these pretty much limited. I'm sorry fan. Yeah. No. It's it's a very low roof at this point too much higher roof though, and something I wanted to ask you about because it's been a while. We're in this you guys globe trodden are woman crush Wednesday here. Yeah. Everyone's they early in the mornings, we are super appreciative. But I'm also appreciated because anytime I basketball questions your my go-to, and we got a lot going on right now. I said it's been a while. And in that time period, I feel like we've had about every opinion or analyses of the Golden State Warriors that you can have a team that has been obviously the banner for the NBA in the last few years but this season during the first half of the season, especially we've seen that what has become a sort of typical warriors slump yet. Maybe the lack of energy and effort when the case last night. Yeah. It just to sort of scary as scary world that we live in because the warriors it's sort of like, yes, you know, everything can be burning down to the ground the world could be flat. Whatever it is that Kyrie wants to say there could be no moon landing in the words of staff who cares at the end of the day. We can come to play in the fact that they put their mind to it and say, hey, guys, we won't actually today. Start the game shot. Like this is the goal here. That's the game plan. First of all, I don't even know what their normal game plans are. Today we actually decided to start the game show, but every like athletic game plan for every sport is start past. Well, the thing is most teams have to go in there with the fifty thousand percent effort and say, okay, we got to take away this guy. How are we going to guard? James harden, what we're gonna do on the pick and roll with. Clint Capella this seems like hey, guess what? Guys, let's make an effort to start the game strong. And guess what happens? They have an NBA record fifty one points in the first quarter. And the funny thing is I was watching this last night. And I wasn't even impressive say, oh the words appoint well today. And then I look I look at the bottom. I'm like, oh shoot that was an like that's the first quarter. I thought we were approaching half like what what just happened here like the byproduct of their full genetic potential Israel time MBA rents ridiculous. But like you said it's so expected for them when they turn it on. It's a nice reminder. And they even said Steph even said as much we know what Denver's being in the Western Conference who is good. And so we wanted to make a point of doing this. So I guess now because this is what I expected, and I'm sure this is what you expected when Golden State wants to turn it on. They can. Can my question is and it's been through the first half of the season. Has there been anything that you've seen from this team? That would actually give you concerns going towards the second half of the year going towards the play. There definitely is. And I think a good example of this is drained mongering. I mean, if you look at his situation, so far the warriors, no matter how great had they've been. They've always struggled with the center position and Draymond green has played above and beyond his capabilities consistently which has made him a three-time all-star defensive player of the year in two thousand seventeen right? This is a guy that I think needs to be a hundred percent healthy to reach his full potential. I don't know how healthy he's been this season. I think that's why it's showing, but he's giving you per average, maybe seven points, seven rebounds and seven assists. Which is you know, flirting with the triple double every other night. But at the same time like yesterday it worked where he had to think about thirteen assists. But he only scored maybe four points, right? The thing is the warriors mask that one glaring weakness. The center position and they also got help from kevon looney yesterday. He looked explosive attacking the rim. But this center position has always been. A question Mark for me. And I think teams have realized early in the season that hey, we have to exploit Draymond green as much as possible. Okay. So this is a guy that really can't find a bucket necessarily outside of the he struggled there. He's really tried to work on his shot. But something is just not really connecting consistently. And if you look at teams, they are playing the warriors, and they're forcing the warriors to play foreign five. So basically Draymond green is out of the offense. And a lot of teams are slowly finding success against the warriors by not guarding dream on green at all the disrespect them completely like outside of the paint. He's a non factor on offense. Now before when dream on had the ball. He would dribble. Handoff and get a shooter to come off. And now his defense which was in the paint can't guard that shooter that's coming off. Kevin durant? Klay Thompson stuff curry so teams were actually winning that gamble. So far early in the season. But yesterday's sort of showed that it doesn't matter because when they're raining threes when clay and Steph and Katy are coming in transition and passing the ball free flowing and letting it fly like, it doesn't even matter. What dream on does? He's the one who's passing the ball to these guys have. Thirteen assists. So to me, it's watching dream on green. And also seeing boogie because boogie will also help in that one area of concern. Yup. That was that was my next question is I last Michael junior today. Guo McKay here on ESPN radio and ESPN app. Chennai are ESPN MBA analyst joining us as she does most Wednesdays. Yes. Most wednesdays. I try. She is in high demand right now. She's a star here at ESPN. So whatever you're fortunate to have you around go when they tell me when we've mandate that the truth will just go where they tell me to go. But what you said there. I think is interesting full because one for me when I watch your right? Draymond drink. Green is become self check. Vic, they're just leaving him open as begging him to take that shot and for Draymond specifically. Because I think in this Golden State run lost in a lot of this has been maybe this was the changing the guard moment more than we gave it credit for that'd be between him and K D early on in the season that landed Draymond with that one game suspension. Yeah, that seemed like we got a different guy after that. Because so much of this warriors team has. Been dream on the mouthpiece, Draymond bravados charge. He's been the identity and this year, it seems like it's gotten away from that. In a major way. Do you think this is dream on just looking around and understanding the rest of the team or have we seen the best of Draymond green that we're going to in a worries uniform? Well, I think we still can see better Draymond green. Like he he's capable of knocking down outside shots. This year has been sort of an anomaly like he'd normally is better thirty five percent three point shooter. Maybe he's in the low mid twenties. But I I really think that this is more. So about the warriors and their chemistry. Right. So dream on is a guy and I've known him for a long time. I met him playing the World University Games when we were in college. He was a senior. I think I was a sophomore and instantly. I was like, oh, this guy cry lie. He funny like he's the type of do that you could be playing cards, and he really comes out your trash talking to same way. He comes at all stars on the court. Right. Just consistent. And I think and people don't really understand his story. Like when he was at Michigan state. He was sort of like, I guess. Overweight a little bit for his position. He was still doing what he was doing. Do. It all player made them really good got drafted to the warriors. And and really blossomed into the potential that he's been a three time all star. And a lot of the worries identity it sort of coincided with Steph also re revolutionize I can't even this word someone came after me on Twitter because I tried to say revolution allies. But I don't know if that's a word revolutionizing. Okay, there we go. Absolution nizing will let you went in the life hack. It is before six o'clock in the morning or not criticized at words wrong gear just came into my Twitter was like revolution. Allies is not a word. I was like, oh interesting. Thanks for the tip. Why? Anyway, Steph curry did whatever that is to the three three point game. And it coincided with dream on Green's play in his his role as a facilitator. So he looks at drain mind. His identity is largely rooted in the warriors and also his development in his character. And all that stuff and how he's matured to be the best player that he is even though he's not currently playing. So so when you get Kevin Durant coming in you sort of question loyalty, and Draymond is one of the most loyal figures in life. And I think people also know what Katy has a decision making. He sorta was playing coy about it this whole time. But I think what yesterday showed us is that it doesn't even matter because it looks like this team is really focusing on the president. They said, hey, we don't know what Katie is gonna do. We don't know what Claes going to do. We don't know what drains going to do in a couple of years. But right now, we have the opportunity to three P and that could be something special. Thank you for listening to the first and last podcast. You can listen and subscribe to all ESPN podcast in the listen tab of the ESPN app. First and last.

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#45: Clemson Tigers, Golden State Warriors, New England Patriots

You're Wrong... And Here's Why

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#45: Clemson Tigers, Golden State Warriors, New England Patriots

"They don't you know they along India's Blah Blah trade policy like the Times Robert Covington. I don't care what you think. Lebron James can't Wendy's Christine. Let's discuss. Hey everybody and welcome to this week's episode of Year Wrong and here's why I'm Chris Woodward L.. Joined US always by Greg. Crown Gregory Houria. Chris Simon a wonderful wonderful for mood. I'm glad to hear it though. I sent sarcasm. No actually it's good. I'm I'm back home from traveling. You know being on the road is it's never fun home safe and sound just to embark on yet another another trip starting tomorrow. Guy Digress. What just Western in Pennsylvania for a family family function and sounds fun? Yeah does does not sound fun. I hate which I hate multiple trips right next to each other. I always feel like I need a period to decompress after a trip. Well Yeah and then not come back and then I go to work for a few days and then I'm right back off to the Poconos for Bachelor Party so busy busy two week period for for me that I'm not used to. The POCONOS is a drive dr though it's not like you have to hop a plane. Well that's true and I'm not hopping a plane tomorrow. I'm also driving but it's a much lengthier drive. Well that's unfortunate fortunate. I'm sorry to hear that but here we are this week. Talk about white sin is going to make the college football playoffs while the Golden State Warriors are ready in tank mode and while the Patriots are still the favorites to win the AFC. Greg tell me why the Clemson Tigers made it into the playoffs. Well for one I'm going to walk through the last four games on their schedule. Obviously the three remaining games with NC state wake forest and South Carolina. I don't care the South Carolina beat Georgia they're not going to Clemson and then obviously with the ACC title game. They'll they'll walk through that as well and I mean you talk about the four teams that are in front of them. It's clear I'm seeing this clearly here. It's unclear marketing for upcoming Games. The reason why they did this I mean obviously. LSU In Alabama undefeated top tier teams. Ohio State Penn State undefeated top up to your teams. I guess but they they know with both of these teams playing each other right you have Lsu Alabama this weekend and then in two weekends. Barring unforeseen loss from either team Ohio state much less likely candidate upset with Maryland and rutgers on their schedule Two of these teams are going to have losses and by the time this all shakes out. There's just no way absolutely no doubt about undefeated Clemson uh-huh in team is in this top. Four I mean as as much as I'd love to be a homer I know what's coming in two weeks for Penn state if the as long as I mean even even if they don't blow it this weekend at undefeated Minnesota or next weekend at home against those those Pesky Indiana Hoosiers I. I know what's coming on on November twenty third and it's going to be an S.. Whooping of you know insane proportions? That's just the way this season and goes and as a as a penn state fan going on around a decade. Now if not. It's just a tiny bit longer. It's you on and know that it's coming so that's where Clemson's going to easily squeak their way right back into the playoff and there's just no doubt about it. I like Nick sitting here laughing to myself because usually it takes us a little longer to get off topic and in your initial statement you started going on on a tirade about Penn state. That just makes me happy. It really does and I do agree. You'll be a little concerned about. PJ FLECK and the Golden Gophers this weekend. But are we saying it's a foregone conclusion that Clemson's GonNa Finish this thing on undefeated I know. I looked over EPA the sports book and they are thirty three and a half half point favorites this weekend. You feel good about that. I'm pretty confident I mean. I'm pretty pretty confident. I I don't know necessarily really about laying the thirty three and a half. It seems like a lot but clemson's definitely covered some big numbers this year. They they had a miracle cover late in the game game at Syracuse. where I don't know fourth ring running back broke an eighty yard an eighty yard run with? I don't know forty seconds left in the game to cover a very big number so clemson's accustomed to it and I don't think NC states going to really put up much of a fight yet clemson right now sitting at number five overall Nine zero six no in the in conference this is. This is a good team and they had something of get right game against Wofford Kanda weirdly scheduled game this late in the season against a team. Like Wofford that's you don't you don't tend to get those kind of match ups this late. Trevor Lawrence a real easy seventy five percent completion percentage to to eighteen through the F. Three touchdowns Travis at T. N.. Just my goodness. My goodness this guy is putting up video game numbers week in week out nine carries for two twelve twelve. Just twenty three point six yards a carry in to score. It's legitimately what I would strive for like. NCAA two thousand and seven. Yeah yeah or two thousand and eight like my goal was always to have at least a minimum of ten yards a carry. If if I didn't have ten to twenty I was disappointed. Nine carries over for two hundred yards is an absurd absurd yards per carry yet. Quick Digression I will say since you get one I get one I was is a and we have talked about this. I'm super excited about the ruling a couple of weeks ago that's going to allow NCA players to profit off their likeness which opens the door for the NCAA and NCA FOOTBALL NCAA. Basketball to come back. I would imagine there's like a year so death cycle we see NCA football back on shelves and like Twenty Twenty One. I am the most excited. NCA football was always one of my favorite games. I mean going back a ways as just just nothing nothing better then that game from the recruiting aspects of the dynasty honesty modes and things like that. But I love the individual player modes die. Forget what a campus legend was the one in two thousand and eight they always renamed it. But and then you you could carry that player over into Madden. It actually like made me want to buy both games and was always preferred because I also like the amount of teams teams in like if you're playing with buddies and things like that it was always something that was a lot of fun also. I can't remember the year I WANNA say was two thousand and ten the the that year I was untouchable as Texas Tech. I promise you to this day I get Graham Harrell Inch Shotgun Michael Crabtree I will dominate any single on comer in that game I was actually i. This is how crazy I am when that ruling happened I brag my wife for fifteen to twenty minutes about how unbeatable I was with Texas Tech in that game. I no one wanted any any of this business. Not My roommates not their friends. Yeah no one had any opportunity to get at me and it speaks to her strength of character that you guys. We're still together following that accurate. Yeah very of super exciting. Were you a were you dynasty guy or a as we call it. Campus Legend Legend Guy. First and foremost I probably I became more of a campus legend guy. I like dynasty modes eventually recruiting stuff. Stuff becomes a little redundant when you're in year like ten but the campus legend stuff because you could continuously restart different players of positions. I loved loved the idea of playing in your last like three or four high school games. This is this is going to actually force me tonight after just getting off the road and probably needing sleep. I'm going to hook up the xbox Fox re sixty and we're going to start something I mean. I'd play every position I'd do running back then. I did a quarterback then I do a corner for some reason. I played linebacker. Strong strong safety. My strong safety at West Virginia which was like the third player ever created was unbelievable. Guy Was a tackle machine objectional traditional names or Greg Crown. Always Greg Always Greg Crown. I appreciate that. It's yeah I I can't I couldn't get enough of the campus legend stuff and then I mean I remember got like the almost the progression that I made them in. That's how many I made eight. And then eventually I just kind of stuck on running back because it's the one that I think you can make the Outside of quarterback obviously can make the most impact. It's still every plays a little more like there's at least some chance that you're not going to get out. And just score a touchdown with quarterback you can just run fly routes with your receivers as long as you avoid the rush. Most most of the time you're throwing over the top and you're getting touchdown one defensive end you can just destroy opposing offense. Oh absolutely disrupting everything I I was. I was always a dynasty guy myself I never really got into the. Let's go make a player. Kinda thing I wanted. My goal was to get the single most accurate traff classes. I could imagine because you gotta remember at that time I was running. NFL draft blitz. And all that stuff get the single most accurate draft classes for Madden and then just just keep going and were you a big school. Guy Where U. Penn State Guy. Or did you like the challenge of starting at a smaller school. It it really depends honestly. It's weird it depends on the mood. I was in when I was starting a new guy. There were a lot of times. Where like when you when you finish out your high school career your offers all the different schools? You'd end up. He didn't up with like being like on the seventh string running back. USC It's GonNa take me half the first season just to gain enough points in the practice mode to to become the starter and that's it's a Lotta time to dedicate something like that so I would go smaller schools because you you can make an impact almost right away one guy out takes. Maybe you miss. You may not miss any games as far as actual play goes and then you're you're just kind of ready to go. Yeah I I always liked the idea of taking like a Wofford type school and then you know winning. You're winning your bowl games and stuff like that. Getting the stars up eventually or five star school will and just you're a walk for the biggest recruits in the country. Just completely changing the future of an entire school super fun on but there's also something to be said about going for one of the bigger schools. I was always a penn state fan growing up because they were the the the closest good school To me at the college level for basketball and a lot of Penn state but yeah the small stuff was always fun to you and you would get to You get you recruit your your quarterback prospects much like a Trevor Lawrence Gregory to bring this back around Clemson here for a moment von says the Clemson Simpson is the third most likely team to win the NCAA championship right now. Third most likely. How do you feel about that? I mean it's pretty telling that they think they're going to get it in. and honestly it's these rankings legitimately feel like they're not true like the true rankings of who actually is the best teams and it's more all right well we have this. Lsu Alabama game already scheduled and we also have Penn State Ohio state. How much more does that game mean the TV ratings if number three number four or number one and number four? I don't buy it I I think the marketing makes a big difference. They're able to play it up even more and then they're going to get more people tuning in. I know you know if I wasn't a fan of this of either team. Obviously in the Penn State case I am but if I wasn't a fan in these situations I would be more opt to tune in knowing that it is a game could decide a potential playoff spot. I mean the game has giant ramifications. Not Not only from the fact that one of these teams will leave with a loss but I mean it affects the big ten championship. It affects all that stuff moving forward pence. They took a big step beating being Michigan. A bad machine team. Let's be honest but yeah I mean this is. This is the true test. Every year of where Penn state it is on on the big ten measuring stick and I. Unfortunately I have a feeling that Mr fields and Co are going to maintain home field advantage and take just one over the nittany lions. You mean one. Time Penn state recruit. Justin feels Chris every time I bring him up. You have to remind me of this. Look it hurts me too. I have affinity for Penn State. Obviously not one that runs deep as yours. But I have an affinity for the school to a would've been incredibly fun to watch. Justin feels running this offense instead instead of showing Clifford. WHO's fines doing a fine job? But so what's the nightmare scenario. Look let's go through this. What has to happen for Clemson to not make the final four easiest easiest way they don't get in? Is they lose to say wake forest. That's the thing. Let's let's talk about that. They get wake forest and a couple of weeks leaks number. Nineteen right now in the top twenty five and the probably GonNa see wake forest again the playoffs nobody in the coastal division really concerns me because it's kind of trash crash in the ACC coastal division. But they're going to have to beat wake forest twice in the next five weeks. That's no small task. Ah Yeah wake forest lost to army. Which army is very underperforming team? This year also has happened losses. Happen sure for the they also they all if you look at common opponents wake forest beat a very bad Florida state team twenty two twenty Clemson beat them by thirty five five points like wake forest definitely definitely is good put. The game is at Clemson. It's it's I don't I just don't don't like where they sit also. There's a chance that wake forest could lose. Lose the Virginia Tech this weekend and now you're talking about them probably definitely not probably falling out the top twenty five. I don't know how good this wake forest team is I mean they did they did STOMP NC state but they also they also lost to Louisville on an absolute shooed. Dude out. They they don't they don't blow away a ton of teams in in their conference. which is I guess? A in my eyes problem when you're comparing eighteen like clemson that outside of that North Carolina game has been just just taking teams to the woodshed. Yeah the Virginia Tech Argument is legitimate at one we talked about how a head to Clemson plus thirty three and a half this weekend against. NC State will west. Virginia is only minus two. Oh He's minus two on the road so this is pretty much Peckham. Yeah exactly I mean it's if you say that the home team Um would get three points at home or whatever that's whatever the old adage is is three at that is as the wake forest wake forest. The team is prime for potential upset. I mean Virginia Tech has showed serious flashes of life I mean they went into Coral Gables and smashed a Miami team. That's been up and down this year. It's not like it's not like Virginia Tech doesn't know how to win. They've also been embarrassed at home in games as well so there are very up and down so it really depends on what Virginia Tech team shows up this weekend but I think wake forest is a very very beatable team. Yeah no I agree with the Virginia Tech stuff and I mean only two losses. I don't know that I would say they've been embarrassed at any point in. Okay maybe the Duquesne. That's that's that's talking about fair but you're talking about you're talking about book and losses at this point right now. To this point their schedule they lose to be see Ashby see by seven they lose to Notre Dame by a point again both games on the road that Duke Game. Yeah it. That's just the one you get. That's the way you got. Everybody gets that one game and they didn't show up against Duke for whatever reason you said that they lost to Boston college right. They lost the busy yes I again. This is what you need to know Boston. College lost by like five touchdowns Kansas at home. I can't take it seriously. The loss the Boston College. That's where Virginia Tech is is such a weird sort of I can't I can't judge them because of games like that and the Duke Game The Duke Game we think. Virginia Tech Doc was somewhere in the neighborhood of seven to twelve point favorites in that game at home and just completely completely. Didn't show up so we could. We could see. See that type of Virginia Tech where we could see a team that you know takes control and beats the top twenty five team which you know guys look at that you know that the coaches are talking talking about that as the week leads up to the game that plays a factor whether they're twenty two. Were number two. It's they're going to use that as a rallying point look Gregory you're commits the misinformation you're spewing knows no ends they lost by three touchdowns to Kansas my apologies Speaking of losing by three touchdowns Worth of points I am going to the Stanford Kansas. Kansas came in December in terms of college. Basketball and Yup Yeah that could very well Pia three-touchdown win for Kansas. I mean Stanford Who did they play? Last night I was I was looking at the score Has the game was going on as I returned from the dinner that I was at and it was not pretty. It was like seven seven with like I don't know roughly seven minutes left. The first half it was it was not a great look for Stanford once absolutely once-proud once-proud Pez brother led Stanford team. But yeah one. Is Kansas team kind of struggled. That first game as well. If you can't judge the champions classic off of a lot of that stuff I mean Kentucky's team last year was absolutely Liam Barry by Duke on night one and they ended up coming back and having a relatively solid season. I mean you're playing Duke. What do you I mean what do you want you know what I mean? Duke's got dukes got a top tier recruiting class as usual coach K.. It's the Mystique of all that I know. Kansas is a story program but they have so much going on with the NCAA violations and things like that then them not looking great on night. One of the college basketball season shouldn't be too big of a surprise surprise. Did you catch any of that. Kentucky Game I. I came in probably three quarters of the way through the first half half and then I watched the rest of the game before going to sleep it was it was. It was an interesting game. Michigan State didn't look great. Kentucky wasn't I don't necessarily think they were overly the impressive. I thought some of their offense was a little bit a little like disorganized. But that feels like that's always the Kentucky to start the season because it's always young guys. It's always guys who were the top tier guy on their high school team or whatever team they're coming from and now they're heading into a team that's all those guys and they have to figure out that that chemistry in cal- usually gets them there. What did you think of tyree smacks because He's the most overrated player in terms of draft stock in the country. Right now in my mind I mean his shot. His shot did not look great to me. And then that's shot pudding. Yeah and it's weird because there was one shot as as the shot clock expiring. He took like a weird jumping forward. Three and it went in. But you could just help uh-huh based on that form like that's the one shot that really sticks out but even when he was getting set shots from the wing wasn't it wasn't great and then I had to hear about The next morning I had sportscenter on because I had time in my hotel room as I was trying to catch up on emails and I had to listen to Stephen a Smith. Tell me how how he's the real deal and this and that I wasn't overly impressed in his first college game I will say that. So here's my my biggest issue with him. We're never going to be able to see whether or not he can get over the perceived flaws that are in his game and I am concerned about the fact that I saw him during that game standing next to Ashton Haggen Agan Multiple Times Hagans a guy who is listed six three and looked about two inches taller than Max. And that's without the hair so I think maxim might be in that six foot six foot one one range. He is going to be purely shooting guard because he's never going to get to show his ability to play lead guard with Hagen's quickly there. So how do you draft basically clearly a smaller version smaller better scoring version of Colin Sexton. WHO's not going to prove? He can play point guard early in the draft the NBA GM's dumb. I mean it's absolutely going to happen. Because of a couple of different reasons one is he went to Kentucky that the NBA Loves Kentucky guys because they're always the highest recruits. And you know those guys that test test super high in the recruiting scale always always pan out but there will be a GM. That'll talk their way into it. They'll talk themselves into taking him high. I don't necessarily think I'd be thrilled with it. If you're going to be perfectly Oakley honest but it could definitely it can definitely happen. I think at the end of the day this is going to turn into a situation like we saw Kentucky with me monk where aware guys were talking about monk like he could be the third or fourth pick in the draft and ultimately you know went in the early teens. I think that's probably what happens to Maxie. Don't see a scenario where he can. Peter Justifiably be drafted high. I without showing a lot more. But let's let's book end this Clemson conversation here. We we talked about the three games left. Thought about how they're going to have to go through the ACC play-offs in your feet wet wake forest again. Odds at Vodka Clinton Plus Three Twenty Five Alabama plus two seventy five Ohio state plus to twenty five. Where you put in your money? I mean I think Ohio state still the way to go I just do and no. They're not the best odds of of the ones you listed but they've just looked like the most complete team on both sides of the ball. All their defense is scary. Their offense even though the slow start against Wisconsin. They really turned it on Between fields and dobbins they feel almost unstoppable. WHOA on the ground And obviously chase young on the on the defensive side along with. I can't remember Jeffrey. Yes that's who I'm talking about. I mean they just feel like such a complete team which is crazy considering all the issues in the coaching change and all that That lead into this year. Yeah they've had some incredibly talented cornerbacks on her back with the Marshon. Lattimore in the Moreland Humphries and and the immoral Humphry Alabama Marshon lattimore and Denzel wards. And the Lichen. Jeffrey Okuda's the best cornerback. Honor Back Bennett. Ohio state in Elia Decade. He's that good and chase young's best defense vendor spin at Ohio state in at least a decade that includes to Bose's that's how highly I think of those guys that defenses crazy good. Yeah it's GonNa be interesting to see how that plays out. I guess you're conceding being a defeat for your nittany lions. It's just I don't think they have enough enough talent on the offensive end. Ah To score enough points to keep up with them I just don't clifford been a good surprise. He's definitely been better than what I expected. I don't think they can do it. They feel like it's GonNa be a very similar game to that Wisconsin game that we just saw with Ohio state where it's slow plotting game early from Ohio state and then all of a sudden they figure it out. Turn it on. You're looking at like two touchdown deficit before are you now at any given Saturday. We'll take a quick break and be right back. Hello football fans now. Are you an Amazon prime member. Did you know that you have Thursday night. Football through Amazon prime. That's right Thursday night. Football has returned to prime video for a third season in the cool thing is you can catch all the action on your TV or the web or on your mobile device. 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One of the best rosters ever assembled old and their leader is Eric Paschal from Villanova. It's thrilling to me. Look they're they're in hardcore tank mode. Yeah I don't think there's any question about this there. There's a real scenario where this team does not have a win to this point. They beat a bad New Orleans team without Zaylon on early in the season and they do sneak out a win against Portland on Monday but they are just turned out playing to win and not only that they're not playing anyone when they're sitting Diangelo Russel with a quote ankle injury that I don't buy their sitting draymond green with this injury and they're just letting these guys sit and sit and said this is so reminiscent to me and I don't blame golden state by the way for capitalizing learn opportunity but this is so reminiscent of when San Antonio tanked with David Robinson injury. They tanked the entire season. They get rewarded with Tim. Duncan and it pays off in a big way in this case. You know. Once once Golden State Law Steph Curry and by the way steph curry is not gonNA play another game this season. There's no reason to bring him back same with Klay Thompson. They're both magically going to have to sit out the remainder of the season and I wouldn't be shocked if draymond finds his way to that That injured list as well but their goal is to have James Wiseman in the starting lineup next year and there is no doubt in my mind he he is by far the cleanest fit for this team in terms of the top prospects available because a lot of the other guys are wings. I'm looking at tank Ifan. which seems is becoming a staple in this show and golden state's currently tied for the third worst record in the NBA with Sacramento and Orlando kind of disappointing for For All three of those teams quite frankly one quick lottery sim and this is legitimate. GOLDEN STATE GETS THE FIRST PICK in the draft. They get they get James Wiseman I think we. We just know that that's how it's going to go. This is going to be the next big piece that allows golden state to continue their their pseudo dynasty moving forward adding a big guy like James. Wiseman who Chris Bashi kind of the kind of a player developing jump shot but the crazy athleticism and a good feel. Oh I game by. The way wasn't his per thirty six's after a game against I forgot. I think it was South Carolina state or something along those lines his Thirty sixes are forty five point eight points per game eighteen rebounds and four point nine blocks pretty a pretty solid start but it's super cleared like they're not trying to win they're just not this game against the rockets was one of the most embarrassing games I've ever seen in this rockets team team. Also kind of sucks I mean. Why would they try to win? At this point It's it's lying on. It's it's literally gone from bad to worse than their situation. I mean from from clays knee injury in the final game of last year's MBA playoffs to to just the unfortunate -ness of the curry injury. I don't think they were. I don't think they were poised to make a lot of noise with just the curry courrier de Ngelo dream on team edge. Didn't think they have enough around them in that situation. I don't necessarily know if they're full full full on tanking banking but it certainly doesn't shock me that the plan is going to be to potentially keep a lot of these guys out and why not I mean you said it it yourself unfortunately unfortunately tanking sometimes pays off. I mean we sat through what four seasons tanking before it finally halfway paid off it is what it is. I mean my my biggest issue with with thinking of tanking now in the NBA. Is those flat draft odds odds though their lottery odds. It's that changes the game. I mean you could tank all you want and then all of a sudden you have the eighth pick and you're sitting. They're getting really not what you're looking for in in a guy like Weisman. I mean that's entirely true but to say that the odds are significantly worse than they were before aren't fair. Either you know the the number one the team slotted to get that number one pick with the worst record in the NBA had a much worse chance of getting of not getting the first pick than they did getting the first pick it was it was never a foregone conclusion by any stretch of the imagination. Now yes the odds have been leveled even further. The top two teams have a fourteen percent. Chance after that. You're talking about twelve point. Three and seven point five is it's different for sure but that is also reason to continue the tank because regardless of whatever game you're playing your you want the best chances to win and I'll take that fourteen percent chance of drawing the the number one pick over that twelve point four percent chance and and here's the other thing you talked about uh potentially teams jumping up because now we have more than these three picks drawn the lottery which I love by the way you WanNa make sure you're as bad as possible because teams statistically are going to jump up you know if you WANNA make sure look if you're in that third that third position with With Five Games left to play I I WANNA lose out and get to because worst case scenario I can pick it did I can pick it seven instead of picking eight if if disaster strikes you always want the best odds. Golden State is very clearly going after those best their. They're starting lineup. The other night Eric Pascoe Greg Robinson Craig Robinson clan Robinson the third Willie Cauley Stein kyw Bowman and Jordan Pau. Aw There's an NBA starting lineup. That's a pretty pretty good college starting lineup. That's very good college. STARTING LINE A lot automated couple of Michigan Guys Villanova National Champion. Willie Cauley Stein with the Kentucky love. I mean that's A. That's a solid college. Starting lineup. The problem problem is they had to play in the NBA. And that I was pretty convinced according to sportscenter that Eric Pascal's the MVP of the League after that game the other night it very well could be. I mean listen. I think they're going to take a look at a bunch of these guys. I don't necessarily think that a guy like the ngelo Russell Draymond isn't GonNa play again this season. I think they're gonNA get a little more run once once they can figure out some of the mysterious ailments that are plaguing them an ankle cisco an ankle injury spring mysterious. Course you know Chris Sometimes sometimes these are these. Are you know these are things that hang around they they they last linger look. I Love I love him but their best player right now is a six six power forward and forty guys went ahead of the draft this past summer. Yeah no I I hear Ya but Kevon looney is coming back Chris. Two weeks away on the bottom line. That changes is nothing for me. I don't come on starter in with a on that team. Probably not but you know. He's great off the bench. That's what we need them for us. Good that Kevon looney spark off the bench to get the warriors going there too and six right now fourth place in the Pacific honestly. I'm shocked I saw over Sepulvado. They're still plus seven thousand sixteenth. Most likely team to win the championship shocked by that. I mean sprinkle little bit on there just in case you never know. Oh Yeah if they somehow manage to keep this close this is a lot of bad teams in the NBA. We see them night in and night out they have. I have a chance to to keep it going and sneak in eighth seed. I can't even say that realistically who's not going to happen. It's just so clear and obvious. How terrible team isn't it's purposeful? It makes you think it makes you really think like after all the good. That's come over the last couple of seasons of them going to the finals. How much wear and tear on? Those guys has really kind of effect. I mean. Obviously Salie the Steph thing. Sort of a freak just broken arms situation put it. Almost almost will benefit them. Moving forward to give a lot of these guys arrest and and season off when they've pretty much played an extra season's worth of games with post-season Games over the last like five or six years. Yes that's true. And you know I it Steve Kerr certainly In no threat of losing his job and put the best coach of all time and the the good news is is. I don't know if you caught this news today but if Kerr worked magically be fired there is a great option for him. I saw that trump and Mark Burnett are talking talking about doing a apprentice White House. Oh so Steve Kirk and jump right on that and we focus on running the country. I don't know just me. I'm more concerned concerned about the reality television. And by the way I've used this joke like twenty times today but I think we can pretty much guarantee the first season and this is serious by the way there is legitimate. Talk about an apprentice. White House show. That would air immediately after our current president left office and Super for serious. Don't need to make a joke about that. But I. I don't know if you've got the odds on this one but the first season winner is going to be a guy named Madame mayor of Luton. Doc I mean it's it's just so absurd. It's so ridiculous it I just I don't understand and do you know what's crazy. No the ratings that that show would get the religious through the roof you thought Roseanne had crazy ratings that that show would get absolute would be the highest watched show of all time. It would beat the finale of match first of all great reference. Do you know okay. Bonus points here. I will concede this giant stakes gregory giant stakes. I will concede see defeat in this segment and We asked me now. I am undefeated to this point through Forty five episodes. I will concede defeat if you know the name of the theme song for Mash I have no idea the song is called. Suicide is painless Gregory. Well that's Morbid. Yeah now actually I. You know what I did know that I would have never come up with it. I've I heard that can't come back to it. I I understand good. I'm glad you can see it on defeated so the one thing that I think is interesting here. You're about this warriors thing. I mentioned that plus seven thousand EPA Vodka feels like an odd. That may be hasn't been updated yet because because they're certainly not that good at this point and in fact when you go to just the Pacific Division there the fifth most likely really team to win at plus eight thousand. So she's the Mathur doesn't quite add up a little bit and how. How scary is it that we're in the Pacific Division where the warriors trail you know teams like the The Sacramento Kings and And why am I spacing on the the the Phoenix Suns. The resurgent Phoenix Suns in terms of likelihood to win the division. Might be the best so you know if the sons are real that might be the best vision in basketball. I mean it's certainly turned up upside down after the past what six years of basically warriors dominance and sun's futility. Yeah it's it's a really really good division. The Western Conference in general is just flat out outstanding. I mean you're talking about a team like Portland that has two guys who are all star Caliber Lillard all oh. NBA Talent Year in and year out there sitting outside of the top eight. I know we're only seven or eight games into the season really doesn't matter but I mean you're talking about stacked stacked division and thank God that the team you cheer for us in the Eastern Conference. Yeah well you know so right now. The Pacific Division has number one four and five seeds in the western conference playoffs again. This is the smallest a small sample sizes with the Lakers at one. The Suns at four in the clippers. Five the The Atlantic Division actually mirrors that in the Eastern conference with the Celtics won the sixers at four in the raptors five. I mean at this point. We should just the fact that the sixers aren't in first place of their own division seven games into the season. I think we should consider firing brown. Throw it out take back. Jim lynam baby. Oh well thank God maybe deal. Wow what a reference France. Yeah I mean the the NBA is. It's GonNa be an interesting weird season. I don't know it feels like you know how at the beginning of the year and even heading into most of the off season we talked about how wide open it kind of felt. It doesn't feel as wide open as we as we as as we're getting underway here. I don't know why feel like there's some. I hand up the Lakers. Maybe better than I thought. I don't know just going to throw that out there They've certainly showed a lot more than they did that. That opening night it is going to be interesting. I mean I've seen over and over again. The conversation around the coup wild management stuff just basically being stuck in a hotel for the last three days and I. I think they're going to have to play this differently in the western conference than the Raptors did last year. You know what I mean. I don't think you can miss many games. Just based on the amount of talented teams that are in met conference. It's an obviously when Paul George comes back. It's going to make a difference but I don't see that being a successful of an option in the regular regular season as there was last year for Toronto. Not only does the league not feel as wide open. The Eastern Conference doesn't feel as wide open. I mean we saw a a Milwaukee team last night light. We're Jaanus was four of seventy three and fourteen of eighteen from the line obviously he those stats are not going to carry through the entire season but just being being a three point threat. If you're gonNA Santen Kumho is enough to guarantee you an MVP basically and guarantee that the bucks are going to be that number one scene. 'cause Jaanus this is not going to be a load management guy. NOPE HE'S GONNA play every game like he should he's the NBA. If you WANNA be the best player not built like that even a little bit I and I agree. You should take some pride in that. And I don't know if I don't know how much guys like a like Lebron and all of them care at this point but you Jaanus has never played fewer than eighty seventy two games in the season. And you know I did. I saw this story and talk about different players from different times. I solace story about Iverson The other day and basically what happened was Iverson was hurt and the equipment manager literally had to hi his Jersey so he wouldn't put it on. Go out there and try to play and he got so mad that they took his jersey away from him he threatened to walk down onto the NBA store by his own Jersey. And play like that. I mean that's insane but those are the kind of guys you love now. Iverson Everson doing that game in and game out playing hurt I mean the year they went to the finals. The Dude was a walking the walking injury. I mean I remember them talking about they have like the the info graphic was body on the screen. And it'd be like hip pointers sore shoulder like hurt ankle. It was literally every part like sore knee. Everything was an issue. You love the guys who have the heart like that. But who knows how his career could've been extended with a load load management type situation going on but at that he wouldn't be Allen Iverson if that was the case. You know what I mean. Yeah I mean it's it's his personality. It's it's his character it's what made him that scrappy. Five foot eleven six foot card. who was willing to take on all comers at all times regardless of the situation? Well you act like house. Career fizzled out. The Guy came into the league. Ninety six ninety seven he averaged twenty the three point five points a game if we cut to two thousand seven two thousand eight. He is still averaging twenty six point. Four points per game. Many Scott. Joe Tanner Eleven Star Games in that time from twenty one to thirty two. It's not like he was done at twenty seven because of injuries he was still applying at an incredibly high level even that first year in Denver that pardon me that second year in Denver where he averaged twenty six point four and and got it got to the line of ton Jesus he was good but scame and oh by the way as a thirty two year old in Denver he played forty one point eight minutes tonight. The Guy was the guy. God Damn Beasts. Chris I don't know what to tell you he's he was. He was sort of easel. One of a kind kind had a player that you don't see come around very often. You know the amount of talent that he had in that that frame and just being able to go at literally literally anyone. It did not matter who it was. I mean obviously you know the fame Jordan Crossover Clip. That's that's one that stands out but Iverson was never afraid free to to sit out and not saying choirs afraid to play Janas. That's obviously not the case. I mean that would be dumb to say. Don't say it why you did it. It's it's it's I mean obviously considering the raptors wax the bucks last year in the playoffs Kawais most certainly not afraid of Y- honest. It's it's just it's weird. It's weird and I don't know if it's because of the past injury history and just maybe maybe now you're more in tune with what's going on and listening to your body and how that works a the way it's perceived in the way it's going to be spun which may not be true is it's GonNa be spun as this guy soft when we just saw which is saw who I basically dominate the NBA playoffs last year. You know with with some limited had help from guys like Siaka and Vanfleet and whoever else is a raptors destroyed all my hopes and dreams last year. Danny had yeah I I mean we're talking about a guy who essentially just carried a franchise so their first NBA Championships and now people are sitting around asking if he's soft because he sat out three of the first six games of the year log. That is what it is. 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I mean it's honestly like the leash shocking result in the world if you watch the NFL. The Patriots Defense had not played any eighteen. That was really worth anything outside of the buffalo bills. Who aren't exactly winning with offense? I mean they're they're they're not some offensive juggernaut that the Patriots stifled thirteen. Wins with defense and wins games like seventeen fourteen every week. It's to me. The people that immediately jumped jumped on the Patriots and then I asked to listen to national pundits talk about how the Patriots are dead dead golden buried dead and buried go head headcount them out. We're done and it's just like guys come on. Why are we fall for this every year? We all this every single year. We know where the Patriots will be. We know exactly where they're going to be at the end of the year and it's going to be playing for the AFC championship whether it's on the road or at home home. It being a guarantee at home got a little bit harder Sunday night when they lost a Lamar Jackson and those Baltimore Ravens. But let's be honest they're going to get a BI. They're they're GONNA win one game and then they're in the AFC championship. It's just especially with. How weak the bottom half of the AFC is? I mean you talk about really a three team race for of that number one seed and with mahomes injury the chiefs struggles. I don't think they're really in there for the top two anymore. They're probably going to play on the first weekend you're talking talking about just the Texans or the Jaguars they're the titans who always seem to be the three teams in the AFC south. Obviously the the colts are much better this year than in the past few years but they're also dealing with a cube injury along with a retirement. It's to me in the wild card. Race is just a complete abomination. Somehow the steelers who have played third string quarterbacks this year still somehow alive those super bowl favorite favorite browns might turn it around. Maybe I mean it's just it's just a nightmare out there. The bills are probably locked for that. Five see just based on how everybody everybody else looks but that number six is GonNa come down to the absolute wire and the Patriots GonNa win did just aren't because that's the way life is we'll gregory look. I'm not sure if you knew this or not. But they lost the ravens this past weekend so the Ravens are better than them and Lamar Jackson is superior Tom Brady. It's just it's how it is is what happened. We can't change the past. You shouldn't try to rewrite it. These next four games are going to be difficult for for New England L.. Maybe difficult difficult wrong word. But telling at least for New England you go to Philadelphia. You have Dow's at home you go to Houston and you have what should be Patrick. MOHME's lead chiefs team team coming to Foxborough Just a after. That is bengals bills dolphins in a in a quick trip into the Ah By in the first round of the playoffs but I don't know these next two games feels like there might be two losses in there. I mean the game against the Eagles is a win. It's a win. I Eagle Win. It's a win now. Joe Matthews is back now joe is he. He's not I'm Susan. The Eagles team was is just and I don't want to turn this. I'm going to turn the eagles chat. Yeah probably because of this by one we have a payback factor. Doug and his staff bell check and his staff and Brady so the animosities still going to be there. The revenge factor to to this eagles team is not very good. They're just again Jordan. Mathews Greg Jordan Mathews Jordan Mathews by the way the series prediction gonNA lead all receivers for the eagles in catches over the last part of the season. One thousand percent one thousand percent going to be the case because Carson's report is unbelievable believable. Free Free Agent. Yeah Yeah it's the front offices maddening for the Eagles but to get back to them versus the Patriots. The Eagles offense is just is just mystifyingly bed Jordan. Mathews AAC show. It's fixed show. Forget I do they show such such flashes of Brilliance and in certain drives and certain things and I just I just don't get it. I don't get what happens the second half of that bears game was excruciatingly painful. You were just waiting for a completely inept. Bears Offense with Mitch Trubisky under center and a powerhouse running back in a guy like Montgomery who they just refuse to use in most situations a flashy player like to Rico. And who's that's great if you get the ball in his hands out of the backfield and they just refuse to do it and they still had the opportunity to potentially come all the way back from a pretty big deficit. It's the defense the defense leaves so much to be desired Schwartz's Schwartz's defensive. Schemes are just Unbelievably poor. I mean. We've gotten better play up front over the past few few games but the problem is going to be in the passing game. And if Brady's even seventy five percent of what his his potential is. I think that it's going to be a bad day to be an eagles corner. Well once again Jordan. Matthews's uses here season a safe and by the way Howie Roseman is so good that he pulled off a trade after the trade deadline over Anderson Day Ho goes to the the The Minnesota Vikings and the Eagles get Viking Safety Marcus APPS and a fourth round pick effectively. So that's very that's how good. How is yeah? It's great to address all the problems that we have to tell you. I was genuinely excited about Andrew. Getting of course as we all should be what you were happy with the guy who was an automatic fifteen yard penalty at least once a game not being on the eagles anymore care about that. I don't even care about at the first of all like the Marcus EPS. Things is a little weird. I probably would've looked to you. Know Call Eric Berry which used the word befuddling is befuddling to me. The Eric Berry is not on a national football league roster right now but I would've called Eric Berry and maybe Derek kindred somebody like that over over mark set so I was actually okay. I assumed it was a foregone conclusion. Corey Graham would be back. 'cause that's just he's the Jordan Mathews of the defense where they just kinda call him every year when when things go downhill Yeah look it's going to be a tough match but that guy that Cleveland cut the guy who attacked everybody on Tremaine. Yeah Yeah I don't know if that's what you want to bring in the locker room right now. But but given the lack of young talent on this eagles team adding a fourth round pick is the right move oof right now they have a one a two to three and three fours. So you know. I'm I'm a big advocate of the draft is giant crapshoot. It's certainly better than it was was a decade ago when it was literally just the wild West you could you know the third pick could be as good as defend your fifth round pick and in any given draft. It's it's better than it was but we're still not to a point where I feel comfortable with it and more more darts to throw. The DART board board are better than fewer. What's what's the last third to seventh round? Pick that Howie Roseman. Hit Avakian medics okay. What's the what's the third the the last third to seventh round pick? How rose hit? I Love I think of automatics is a good. NFL Player. Okay so I mean I'm I'm going to allow. Oh you'd have your opinion. Thank you. I'm going to grant you thank you I. I am not impressed with automatic. Maybe I'm living off of last year where he struggled and they'll never give him credit for anything ever until. I don't know something important happened I I Chris I lived to hold grudges. I think my I that I also also find favorites. Latch onto them currently my favorite Philadelphia philly active Philadelphia philly really is chase hotly. He hasn't played for the team and close to a decade. But still my still my favorite player. I'm looking at this right now and I would argue that. They've actually had relatively good success. In the middle rounds you get maddox in the in the fourth round in two thousand eighteen. You also get Josh Sweat in the fourth round. WHO's turning into a decent? Let's put good these little pass rusher going back to the year before that they had starting linebacker Nathan Gerry. I can't even say that seriously. He's Tara maybe the worst linebacker in football but he is starting starting in twenty sixteen. You get one Dell small wooden. How a plot device tie in the fifth round Vitali Vitae very good fifth round? Pick you also get jalen mills in the seventh around. You can't argue that. Jalen mills provided plenty of value for a seventh round. Pick before that it was before but it was also chipped before that so we can't believe how how is value measured Jalen Mills. Is it how many times he gets burnt. And then makes the one play where he can wag his finger finger wags for me. It's finger WHOA. That's what I figured. I will never. I will never be able to get over. I don't care Jalen meals could be an all pro I would still. I would still be the guy that complained about the the first two years of his career where he would get burned play after play and then he broke up a pass on meaningless second down down by forty and wagged ragged finger up in the air. And it's just like read. The room read the room for what's going on here. I Dunno I unfairly judged him and he been involved they maddox is probably falls in that. Same category for me where I just sort of latch onto those early performances where he wasn't as impressive but he certainly provided a lot to the defense as as we've gone on and having him back definitely helps if you want to knock a Howie for something? That's totally fair. The thing that I would probably knocking and four is Inexplicably waiting until the fourth round in in Twenty six point zero. Sorry two thousand seventeen to go after a running back when when running back with one of the clear weaknesses on this team and we had a historically good running back class. They wait All the way to pick one thirty two to get the NOPE Humphrey and even then and you know you have guys like Wayne Gelman Marlin Mac and Chris Carson who go after him by the couple of a strong undrafted free agents as well but you at the the list of players who went before that pick one thirty two in the In the it's it's ridiculous talked about Autry Cohen. But you know smart parine. You also have James Connor. You have devante foreman you have Kareem Hunt. You Have Alvin Kamara. You Have Joe Mixing you have Dalvin Elven. Cook you have Christian McCaffrey and Leonard Fournette. Unbelievable I don't think I'll ever forgive Howie for not taking Dalvin Cook will they. They love to okay I I will say that. They did reportedly loved Alvin Coke and that was known pretty well before the draft. But S- Minnesota if you remember jumped jumped up to forty one to get cook. You know presumably in front of the Eagles who sat at forty three and took Sidney Jones who was was He got sat last week in favor of a street. Free agent now they did missiles from guys who went right after that for sure but Like I do think that they would have taken Alvin Cook if he was there at forty three. The problem is then do anything after that. You know you you wait Now and you wait and you wait instead of going after a Joe Mixon who admittedly had some character concerns. Coming out of school or Alvin Kamara. who had you know he was a workload issue? Guy Didn't have a big sample size and college and also there are some some off the field stuff you let those guys let those guys go and Instead and Kareem Hunt Cream hunt all he did was set the NFL record for most total yards game by an offensive player in his first game. They they wait and they take to know. Paul Frey was the next. Darren sproles Chris not even not even the best running back on his roster at that point because Rashaad penny would be a first round pick a year later and bust admittedly to this point of the seahawks. Yeah Penny any kind of has a tough tough goat. Yes because Chris Carson seventh-round isn't that Paul Frey draft. Yeah but Carson's arsons obviously established himself in Seattle as the much better option. I agree that's what I'm saying is that there was still plenty of runningback talent on the board it was just not identified and you have the concern that how he gets a lot of credit for his contracts and justifiably so he's he's very good in terms of contracts in uncapped management but his pro amateur scouting has left a lot to be desired. Yes one thousand percent. Yes I think that he gets a ton of praise for the way he deals with the actual current players but are are scouting. Just stinks I. That's the reason why bring up like who are these guys that he's hitting on because it's it's just not a it never seems to work out. It never seems to work out. We constantly instantly miss him in the first round picks. We've usually been pretty good on. I I get that Put as you keep digging deeper and deeper into this and seeing guys who were missing out on and I'm not talking talking. Oh we took this guy in the third round but this guy went in the seventh round guys to go right around people we picked. We did it a couple of weeks ago with the Theta whiteside thing in the receivers that were drafted around him. It's it's nearly impossible to be this bad. I don't know I I just don't know how we can continue to to do this would Yeah I mean obviously anybody can play the if we'd only picked game but how about in that twenty seventeen draft. How different would things be if say we went when Moreland Humphrey in the first round instead of Derek Barnett? And he went. Say Juju Smith Schuster in the second round instead of Sidney Jones and you went say Chris Godwin in the third round instead of Russell. Douglas or even James Connor you think the teams a little bit different at this point. It's just a tiny bit. I don't know it's it's always a hard game to play but it's it's just frustrating Washington team weakened and week out under perform. Well I get confused and we're going to get off the eagles second but I always get confused by teams. That don't identify talent on a college team when they're clearly scheduling that team a ton and there's a really big instance of that in Philadelphia Right. Now they spent the year fascinated with Andre Dillard just assassinated and paid no attention to their quarterback who went after we selected Clayton Thorson in the fourth round. I think you would feel a little bit better having gardener. I think Gardner Menchu's a little bit overrated and maybe even a lot over rated but unquestionably this gene ably. He's an NFL level quarterback Clayton. Thorson is not that not even a tiny bit. How a tiny bit? How do you not see that when you're watching all this film that's my question? Just I don't I don't know I don't know how you are unable to figure that out and realize that that this is not the guy like you look at a guy like Thorson. A plate at north western northwestern was never good. I Know College. Success doesn't always mean gene. NFL success but it's just it's just infuriates Kodaka. He's no Mike Kaffa his just Andy Reid. Eh Bavaro Super Bowl odds KAFFA. Yeah right even thought of that name. I think

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2019 NBA Finals - Vegas Preview (Warriors vs. Raptors)

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2019 NBA Finals - Vegas Preview (Warriors vs. Raptors)

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James James wholesale Hauer a sports better breaking records on the popular trivia show. We'll also talk. About what WNBA best bet from fez. I have a best bet on the NBA finals uncle Dave. Adler. Also has a best bet. We'll throw in some other nuggets along the way. But let's get right to it. All right. Before we get into Golden State's Rana, let's review now last week, we already knew that Golden State pretty much was going to be here. They swept the, the blazers what we didn't know at the time was a Toronto team now was down two games to nothing against Milwaukee. And you coulda gotten at that time Toronto, six to one hundred bucks wins you six hundred what in the hell happened in those last four games, I'm gonna go to you fez, the NBA expert here. What did you see in those last four games on how Toronto overcame a two deficit something most teams don't do and right before, and I believe I had the answer for you for what happened to Milwaukee. But I think it's important that we stress before answer the question the concept of this is the. Time of year that the public overreacts to whatever they see the recency bias and we really saw that after game two so two games in like you said, Milwaukee becomes minus nine hundred and Milwaukee in game three was an underdog against Toronto button game for his latest game four Brad Bowers Milwaukee was the favorite against Toronto laying not one Milwaukee was laying three so three games later. Oh, Toronto was the superior technique yet somehow before game four the thought was that not only was Milwaukee better on a neutral but the Milwaukee was should be favored on the road. Yeah I mean three points is just through the simple math, guys. I mean normally in the playoffs four points for home court advantage in game four Milwaukee being three point road favor was thought to be nearly seven points better than Toronto. And now lo and behold few games later, it's Toronto. That's the team advancing you know whether. It's, you know, I guess, I'll ask it this way to you wasn't much more Milwaukee folding or were there specific things Toronto was doing that really impressed. You in particular, maybe a role player that, that became a proud Papa, number two who made a difference in those last four games. Yes. So a little bit of both, but I think more Milwaukee, not quite ready for primetime. So let's, let's take a step back and talk about basic strategy in the plants. What do we usually see what we see from Jordan and the bulls? Well, you got to go ahead and slowly progress further in the playoffs before you're ready to win the playoffs or even to get to the final. So what playoff experienced in Milwaukee have they watched the Boston around one last year? So they were a very bad wanna plas series in like fifteen plus years, very green playoff team. And I think we saw that we saw the supporting cast for Janas Janas only twenty four. I think we saw the Janas, who is likely going to be the MVP in June. But. What's face it? Why Leonard did outplay him in this NBA semifinals. But not just that. I mean even with. Kawai outplaying Janas. I still think Milwaukee would have won if not for that greenness of the supporting cast and what we saw was the Middleton's the Bledsoe's the marriages that just it seemed like it was in their head. They just were not able to knock down shot in particular longer shot shots that Milwaukee has taken all year long and made it a certain rate and they just weren't as affective shooting in this series against Toronto, and you nailed it by contrast, Freddie van fleets who am embarrassed to having said that. I, I went ahead and I blocked, Freddie. And I said, that's it ten straight bad playoff game. How public declaration of separation is that correct tournament on Monday after game three after ten straight horrible games? They had horrible, Freddie, vanfleet against philli horrible series all. Those games all seven games on three horrendous games where he shot two for seventeen from three was averaging either three or four points per game versus regular season, which was at eleven and right. When I dumped, Freddie, and it looked this was a love affair for several years. Freddie has a couple bad weeks and you throw it, you toss them the curb fest. I'm the guy that talked about, Freddie. Benfleet how he's worth not just like he's comes off the bench. I don't say half Boyce as worth more than a point to the raptors. And yet after this ten horrendous given remember he didn't have a good playoffs last year either. And I said FREDDY is a regular season phenomenon. And he is a no show in the plants. Well wallows make that public declaration. His wife was giving birth to his first son in Rockford Illinois, and then he flew back to Toronto, and what should have its second kid is that second child daughter. Yeah, exactly. So he comes back and instead of shooting. Two for seventeen he takes seventy three's in game four five and six and he makes fourteen of the seventeen so think about it. He basically MRs almost all his threes. The first three games. He makes all of his threes. The last three games winds up shooting like four was that forty six percent for the from three for the series? You put it combined aggregate together. He had a fine series. I'm sorry. Freddie. We take me back. Can you take me back because I'm back in the Fred van fleet's camp. He stepped it up while all these stiffs for Milwaukee did not do I have to worry as you? And I am now known each other about three years down the road who have to worry if I have a couple of really bad weeks. I'm leaning in the wrong direction. When it comes to maybe the college side of things do I have to worry about you, just, you know, declaration, public declaration, separation. You know, I have a concern that I've gotten much more of a recency bias than I ever had had before. I was always like. Don't overreact any short term sample. So I think I think you know what I don't think you have to worry. I think I have to look inside myself and realize stop overreacting to these small samples, especially, oh shocker, right. Be when his wife's about to have a baby may be van fleet's is not a hundred percents. I won't go to deepen in this. But I think some of the issue is, as you and I doing a daily national radio show where we have to have almost take each and every day, something that you and I haven't been accustomed to. Yeah, I did radio aback in Toledo area, but it's not like I had to have a strong take each and every day. I think some of that might I wouldn't say hurt I it certainly helps us as far as prepping constantly. I'm much more involved in the sports verse media versus then when I ever happen for. But I think sometimes us having to have a take after each and every game, sometimes, I think long-term that does hurt us because in the past. Whatever. You know, that's just, you know, rant random variance on that one three point shooting that would I think there's value in that team the next time sometimes I think you and I, and I think we both have issues in this become more of a prisoner about by the moment because we have to have a take each and every day on national radio. Yeah. It's very difficult to come in and say, well, Toronto won or lost the Toronto loss game too because of just random variants here for Milwaukee shot. Well in Toronto didn't by the way, you can draw your own conclusions about this. But for the series both teams took almost identical number of threes. They both took right around two hundred thirty three's plus or minus one and Toronto did make fifteen more threes than Milwaukee. So there are reasons why you could make the case that Toronto made more of their threes. But over the course of the season these two teams had a. A rate of making threes that were within one percent of each other and here, Milwaukee shot much much worse than Toronto. So how much of that was nerves for Milwaukee, how much of that was Toronto, stepping up? I will say this Toronto shot. I thirty four percent of their shots in the regular season. We're threes thirty nine percent of their shots during this playoff series, where three so they actually shot more from threes. So Toronto's three point rate, probably should've gone down and instead of went up, they made thirty seven percent for the series instead of thirty six percent. Yeah. And on average regular season Milwaukee averaged about one more make made three pointer per game than Toronto. But yet in this series like you mentioned, six games, fifteen total more makes for Toronto. So RJ doesn't want to hear that from time to time, but I do think that did play a part in why Toronto got the job done and pulled an upset. Speaking of upsets, we don't see too many of those when it comes to the conference finals, this is some stuff that. Did going back to the nineteen eighty seven eighty eight season. If you look at conference finals and we're talking series prices here not game. The game just to series favorites are fifty and fourteen fifty and fourteen and prior to its row, does upset over Milwaukee. The favorite in the east had one as far as the Eastern Conference finals eight consecutive years. I think it was LeBron James as consecutive years. Cavs for years Miami. He four years on the other side. It's even more dominant further favorite in the west last twenty one years, the west favorite the series favorite in the Western Conference finals, twenty and one very Chaki this time of the year flip go ahead, a little housekeeping items. So I had a quick one day road trip. So while I was gone out to states. I couldn't bet I texted, Brad said, I, I'm going to be out of state, but I hear that I hear Golden State's that, that there's a fire sale on Golden State to win the west and at one book, you could bet minus four hundred and then, of course we crossed. We never gotten in touch with each other. So I said to myself, why? No that that one's gonna win. Yeah. Oh, yeah. When you don't get down, of course, and I apologize that. You believe it or not, then here's the little pull behind the curtain. I'm not easy to get a hold of after a certain time in night, like eight nine o'clock. It's just like no I'm looking at my phone. I, I, I know I get it. We live in a world where, you know, you gotta be by your phone. Twenty four seven. I mean I just I don't believe in being on call. I'm not a doctor. I didn't I didn't take the extra ten years of school to be on call time. Sometimes you just can't get old me. You know, on on the opposite. I'm always on call. Wow. But never we'll never call me. I don't answer my phone, whatever you do. Do not leave me voice message. I will not get back to you do not send me an Email. I'll check it like twice. I'll check it twice during the day middle of the day and end of the day. And then, of course, you know, right before and after the show, but texting I've just become a memorial when it comes to texting, I've got it like attached to my hip. It's rare. If you text me that I'm not going to get back to you, like within like thirty seconds sleepy is Darrel there. I'm here, I'll do you like there when it comes to communication, Daryl recently new to Vegas, one of our producers? How are you? Like when it comes to getting a hold of until you, man. I try my best to beat everybody phone. I am not on call like a doctor. But the thing is with people being on the east coast. I'm getting a lot of phone calls it weird hours, I bet. Yeah, yes. So, like five in the morning, I'm getting a phone call. Because eight o'clock said, hey girl, it's eight o'clock. No, it's not as five and in the sun is so bright out here. First thing in the morning. So as I'm at five in the morning. So is like I have to get some blackout curtains, but yeah, I almost took us somewhere else and sleepy. How are you, are you one of these guys that I can get a hold of a midnight? You can get a hold of me twenty four hours a day. Wow. Sleeping doesn't sleep. He doesn't sleep sleep. We, we do not ever. Talk on the phone, but wilt, we'll text each other, what three times a week sleep before times. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Moving speaking, a series prices. And as we transition more to this series, the NBA finals, the as we're taping this on Wednesday game one is in Toronto and Toronto, a small favor, one point favorite over Golden State game. One that goes on Thursday. Chaki when it comes to the NBA finals as well. Twenty six and eight this series favorite. So I just told you fifty and fourteen conference finals, twenty six and eight series as far as the favourite. So I, I think I mentioned this cream rises the crop when it comes to the NBA finals. Let's talk series prices right now, Golden State what right around minus two eighty to eighty take back what plus two forty take back. I thought someone told you I don't wanna hear take back. That's totally inside joke inside joke. So my two eighty what does that, you know, because some people I, I mean I get I guarantee you a lot of the jobs out there. We call him FREDDY fanny pack. That's walking down Fremont street. Eating a corn dog deep fried what twinkie on a stick. Or, you know, some people corn dogs mice to eighty what's that imply Golden State with right around seventy percent chance to win seventy two point two percent the way I get at that is that I'll take the what we call the no Vig line. So if it's minus two eighty take back, plus two forty if a sportsbook offered this at Novick. And by the way, I hear there's a brand new sports book. That's opening up a circa on Saturday at the Golden Gate downtown. And the reason I bring this up as they have a promotion on Saturday, haven't seen this in years. It's no big Saturday for opening day. You can bet once and once only on every single baseball game on the board. And there will be no Vig. So they'll be weighing every single game or just one game every single. Game you can bet want. So they'll have like they're lying on a baseball game at the Golden Gate on Saturday. We'll be minus one forty take back. Plus, one forty you can only bet one side, you can only bet once per per what's the limits not disclosed. We, we will will you be down there. We will see I expect to be down there. Right. Then then I'll have an app. Right. That's correct. They will have an app is my understanding, but obviously no one has signed up for it just to get back to answering the question. So in the minus two, sixty plus to sixty no Vig line on the series, if I take to sixty divided by three sixty that's the way to get the percentage chance that the market is saying that Golden State will win and that seventy two point two percent. I think one of the big stories and obviously, it's new to Golden State, who's making their fifth straight trip to the finals Golden State's had home court advantage each of the previous four years. And as you did a lot of research, as far as how much really is home core worth since this isn't unique time. Time where, you know, actually go and saints an underdog in game one in the series how much is court worth, you did a lot of math on this one break that down. So it turns out when there is a significant favourite homecourt in the seven game series is indeed worth about one hundred cents. So I'm gonna talk in terms of no Vig lines again. So we talked about Toronto being a minus two sixty on, on a no vague line. So if Toronto had been without home courts of Golden State had been the team with the home court, then that, minus two sixty Golden State being favorite would give would have gone up to like around, minus three sixty so worth about one hundred cents when there's a prohibitive favorite, but as it turns out, now and oftentimes we've we've been talking about how much is home court worth, and we've been saying it's about one hundred cents what turns out that's really about what the average series is. Because let's face it, most of these Naji slip in home and away hundred cents. Yes. Correct. So if we take a look at two equally matched teams, they actually crunch the numbers on, on them. And I was surprised that home court. There goes down the worth of home court is, is much smaller. It's worth just actually little less than fifty cents. I've two evenly matched teams whoever is home court in game seven should be on a Novick line mice one twenty-five take back. Plus one twenty five on the underdog. Now, think about this. It's like that seems awfully small until you think about it. Well, the only time the home court matters is if there's a game seven, so if there's a game seven well, the, the home team about about mice, one sixty five. Right. So less than half of the series are going to go seven game. So it makes sense that if I get the minus one sixty five I gotta take back more than half of that, because of the fact that if the series goes less than seven games court did not factor into who wound up winning the series, thus not surprising that we getting no Vig line of minus one twenty five to equal teams in a seven game series. Any value serious price Kerr number when I calculated it, here's the assumptions, I used you tell me I seem Toronto would be. Pick them in their home games. You're close when fifty percent of time I assumed Golden State would win seventy five percent of their home games, anything based upon those assumptions I come up with a no Vig line of Golden State, minus two sixty unexcused mice to sixty five mice sixty five, so I because it falls in that corridor that dastardly book, he taken that Vig if you bet Golden State, you can lay minus two eighty if you go ahead and bet on Toronto, you get plus two forty and to have a good bed. I'd have to either. Find Toronto at plus two sixty six or Golden State at minus two sixty four neither available to answer the question, No value. What do you think? I, I know you're and I'll give you the data here because I think it's one of the biggest story lines of a series that being Kevin Durant who's out for game one. And we'll see if he's out for multiple games in the series is that do you think the markets accounting for him playing at all in the series or is that current my? It's to eighty with Kevin Durant out. I think that the market feels that there is a significant chance that he could come back. But the feeling is that he probably won't be one hundred percent if he's not one hundred percents. It really isn't going to be upgrade for Durant comeback. So think about that, guys. Kevin Durant who I think almost anybody considers to be at minimum my top five player in the NBA regardless of position. And yet really now the market's finally coming around to it. I think that he's really not worth anything to Golden State. Maybe to another any other team in the NBA least five points, I would say, maybe even six points, but to the Golden State Warriors zero points. And now you're saying the markets almost reflecting that, yes. And especially a less than one hundred percent career and then a skepticism that this is possibly a big smokescreen that the Golden State, may, well, no that he I don't know. I don't know the as MD. What is? Fez. MD say fez MD went ahead and looked up calf strain. So great one castrating puts out seven to ten days. He's been a lot longer than that. He does not have a great one cap strain. I didn't read anything about great one point seven five cast the literature says it goes to grade two's, if you've got a great to castrate you're out four to six weeks for a four week timetable since he went out may eighth would put him back game three or game four. But that's the optimistic side of a grade two straight an EAP for all we know he could have a great three strain where you're supposed to be out for three months. Bottom line is the only optimism I have for Kevin Durant is the fact that he did indeed make the decision to fly with the team to game one to Toronto. I do think that's positive I'm going to bring in Darrell again here because he files the NBA quite a bit. What are the chances of Kevin Durant? We've seen the last game he's played at Golden State. Do you think that's greater than fifty? Percent yet, think his, we hired fifty man or would you put it at? Probably by eighty three eighty five someone give me the button. Never Darryl when you're talking and the difference between the hot takes all across the country is they're not betting. I mean, I think what, what on undisputed skipping Shannon Sharpe do a little White Mountain dews. I think cases amount news. But here in Vegas, we have a little button called the green button. That means you got a hot take like that cold hard cash. Do you wanna bet you that strong about it nominee? I like my money, bro. I'm not going bit. He's backing down throws made him. All right. Here's the pros backing down from that one. That is producer Darryl. I RJ had a good point here as far as Kevin Durant. I think. If he doesn't play it all. And let's say Golden State wins and six and wins this whole this last couple rounds plus a plus a game in a game and a quarter against Houston or was at two games came in a quarter given quarter. Yeah. Against houston. And they went a title without Kevin Durant. I cannot think of a player going down to injury that loses more from, you know what is reputation is he's going to have to he's going to have to go somewhere else, and win a title for us to consider him among I mean, even close to the mount Rushmore when it comes the MBA degree with that. I agree. And he almost cannot return right? Think about this, because imagine the epoch debacle if he came back next year and somehow Golden State lost with a while. Well, I mean they'd have at least two titles with them. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm strong on, I guess, this is all going up to crescendo on the numbers that we've been reporting the last couple of weeks. And we were one of the first with this. It's remarkable, and this is the in the Kevin Durant era at Golden State. So this is a three year sample size here. I'll start off with the obvious both Steph curry and Kevin Durant play the warriors win about seventy eight percent of the time. That's straight up seventy eight percent. Not a good Beth though less than forty eight percent. If you're blindly bet non the Heuer's last year's when Steph and Katy play, you're losing money. So staffs out drank plays out of the warriors. Do actually not really good at all. Sixty one percent is all they win. Twenty eight and eighteen covering the they don't cover thirty nine percent against the spread. That's Curry's out Katie plays Golden State area here. Thirty nine percent against the spread. Not good. Coming up, just so one of those subset. Of that sample size in the first meeting between these two teams right? Where curry sat in Toronto Toronto picking up the win against St. however Golden State did cover that game. And they did it without Korean without Draymond green. And that line said Curry's worth a lot, and obviously dream on on that one. What was did say was getting like nine points? That's unbeliev. That was the biggest underdog role go and say it's been in all season. So finally, we're building it up here, and this is what we've seen from Golden State, at least recently Durant's out, Steph plays. Golden State thirty four and four. And fact, it's even better. You take out the first six games thirty one and one. That's what the warriors are the last thirty two games that Steph plays. And Katie is out the put that in an NFL perspective, just because thirty two goes into sixteen. Nicely. Imagine if you had a quarterback. And he goes sixteen and, oh, and fifteen in one wouldn't be much debate whether or not he was the, the. The reason why a team was winning right? Yeah. Joe Montana gets hurt and they're winning. It's the forty Niners in the eighties. Joe Montana gets hurt. Steve Young comes in next two years, Steve Young's, fifteen and one sixteen now and we'd be like, I don't know. I mean like Joe Montana might not be the greatest quarterback of all time. If that was the case against the spread. I mean in those games Golden State's covering sixty three percent. So way, better than even Golden State with both playing is when katie's out and Justice in random sample. So that's I mean, we're talking thirty eight games here, and that's half a season. And even if you doubled up the losses for Golden State, it's still would be better than how they perform when both of those guys play I don't have you ever seen this never? I just it almost boggles my mind, the only thing I can think of is kyri for Boston. Right. That Boston would did indeed play better. I think they're twelve and three right without kyri. This year. There were twelve and three without kyri. And then we also saw the run that Boston had in the playoffs last year without kyri. And when Cairo was in there for whatever reason it wasn't working. That's a good example. Fez. That's steve. Fezzet NBA expert on Brad powers. Let me ask you a question here. Brad. And what's your Twitter, by the way? Wow, what's with all these promotions at bradpowers, seven mysterious seven. I mean did you get you get paid by circa, Derek Stevens that little thing? Now, see how this is I'm getting the dirtiest player in the game. You know, about eleven years ago, the station casinos at a no Vig football. I believe it was and how long did that last it lasted one day, and they're still they're still theories about why they did that whether there was like some kind of incentive to get volume into the book, but there was a whole lot of action being taken on action live action. Let me ask you this question about over or rather reaction of you mentioned all those numbers, they've been making the rounds about how good Golden State is with curry, and it seems like the public and the betters have become well, aware of let me give an example. Let me ask the question who's better Houston or Toronto? I would say Houston slightly in the playoffs a regular season power rating maybe Toronto slightly better playoff power rating, Houston, maybe one point Petr, I agree. So let's go back to game six in Houston, Golden State. They had curry there at Houston was a spread in that game Houston was laying seven seven and a half Kerr. Act now Golden State again is on the road there at Toronto. What's the spread in this game throttles laying one? So it looks like the, the betters have they have come aboard the thought of Golden State being an elite team with curry and without Durant in just the past six games, right? Yeah. I think there was probably an extra point or so with it being so must win for use in that role. But I know people are going to say, it's the NBA files for Pete's sakes. How can not? I mean all these. Games should be must win at this point. Yeah. There seems to be that, that's significant upgrade, although I had to tell you again, going back to Freddie fanny pack. Even I am. Maybe a little bit square, just seeing Golden State one hundred odd role against a team like Toronto just seems cheap to me doesn't not it's hard to go against a team. That's one thirty one of the last a player. That's one thirty one of his last thirty two games curry when he plays without Durant. And it's hard to go against the trend. You've got them in front of you. Right for game one how well Golden State has done and how poorly Toronto has done in game ones of series. Yeah. We'll we'll talk game one right now. And then we'll talk to, you know big overall factors in the series. But yeah, you're right. As Golden State game one playoff series. So let's just game one Steve Kerr era eighteen to one straight up. So they're eighteen and one to the current number that there because they're getting points. I know some you're gonna say Brad all those games are at home. You're right. Only one of those nineteen games is on the road that was against Houston last year. Golden State one and covered that one so Golden State a league game one eighteen and one Toronto. Not only in game one playoff for them. And. This is going back, you know, ten years or so game one of a series for Toronto. Two and twelve straight up to and twelve against the number coming up short nine points per game compared to expectation. So golden stay really good Toronto really bad and game one. But here's another factor in this is actually pro Toronto game. One home teams has been good for the NBA finals last sixteen home teams fourteen in two straight up thirteen and three against the spread not too shabby. They're I don't know. I mean I liked trends. I don't know if I can really break a lot of these down and say, hey, that one really makes a lot of sense. But let's go to overall factors here. I have Toronto's past here, and they've even lost what they've lost a game Sarnoff this playoff year losing game one to Orlando. I remember and it was almost like the oh, here we go again, baby China sores in start the Milwaukee series, strong. Talk to me about, you know, factors for you. Overall factors in the series. What's one of them for you? I think a key factor is, how are all of Toronto's role players going to handle being in the spotlight of the NBA finals? So we, we know Leonard is an absolute superstar. You can make the case right now. He's the best player in the game. He just outplayed the MVP after all and the fact he can do it on both sides of the court offense and defense. Now the question is can the role players and I call everybody else role player basically apologies the Lowery who's a multiple all star Siaka, most improved player van bleeds coming off the bench, who was just great the last three games. And obviously, get Saul has been a nice addition. And Danny green has basically not been a no show throughout the playoffs. But one thing about these guys. So if we talk about lack of playoff experience, can kill you. It's a little surprising Toronto does have some nice finals playoff experience Kawai lender. Leonard played twelve games in the finals. Danny green is played twelve games in the finals surges played in a finals and even Patrick McGaw, who hasn't even been coming playing off the bench has some experience. So here's a squad that does have four players with finals experience. It's not like this is a completely green team like Milwaukee was, and certainly, you could argue, well, and when he was betting on Toronto to win championships in prior years. Can tell you there certainly been there in the playoffs. They just flamed out on the playoffs. Yeah. And certainly quite makes a big difference when you got maybe the best player in the world right now and he's got those finals experience. Hello, just thinking about it. They really haven't this is the first time they've been at maybe what we perceived to be a disadvantage when it comes to playoff experience round one Orlando's young team. Nope, hardly any playoff experience. That was round one for Toronto. And then he got round to Philly had the plant big time playoff disappointment last year against Boston coming up short. So really Toronto wasn't at a disadvantage there. And then Milwaukee who coming into this year hadn't won a playoff series and what fifteen plus years, and even though you mentioned that they have playoff experience, more than what we thought I still think it's a major disadvantage. When you got the warriors that have been there done that now for five consecutive years. And most of those guys playoff experiences that was five six you know, four or five years ago for them. So I don't I guess what I'm getting to is can we really trust the Toronto sporting cast because they were struggling fourteen fifteen games into the play. Offs. And they've just had a really good last two three games. I think I personally trust the bigger sample size compared to what we've seen just in the last couple of games. That's a great point. No one on their team has been to an NBA finals since back to two thousand fourteen. So it has been five years, and that bench which was quite good during the regular season, most of the playoffs, it was terrible. And frankly, all the bench players had all their minutes cut, so they only have three guys Toronto does coming off the bench. Now those three guys are surging. We talked about vanfleet Baca and Paolo are all playing fantastic basketball. So very short bench. But that's okay. You get lots of days off, as long as those guys play effectively, it'd be interesting to see who's going to get the edge in the bench just going into the playoffs. We would have said, well anyone's going to have the edge against Golden State, but since Durant is gone down that Golden State bench has suddenly become a very deep bench, which we never would have expected. Houston. We're talking about. Oh, gosh. You know, we're poor playing you know, curry and Thomson and Durant, and everyone's playing forty five minutes, and these guys are going to run out of gas. And now Durant goes down that you'd hurt the bench right now. We got a one more bench guy that has to start. We gotta move in. We got to go ahead and move looney into the starting five or whatever. But all these other guys drab co Livingston et cetera. Golden State against Portland. They played seven or eight bench guys. Significant minutes in most of the games four or five of the guys got three plus points that they were not just on the court, but making, you know, the scoring helping the team win and it wasn't like these games were laugher as Portland was up fifteen points or more in the second half games. Two three four. It was that bench for Golden State that was very effective. And part of that I think is the joy of playing was Stefan curry, you know, just the fact that the ball moves around so RAB Heff on Steph fine with Steph curry, whatever you family matters fan. I was I was wanting to fever co became on. Since I since I started calling calling calling lower Dame. I'm looking to to change. Everyone's name street grid that actually ever since Daryl showed up, and that's all you worry about is, is my man. So dare, let me ask you the Golden State bench this reserve as a lot of that just because they're playing free and easy against the Portland team. Do you think they're going to tighten up here in the finals? Or you think we're going to see all these minutes from these guys even in the finals. I think we're going to see some minutes from them, because think about it. You're going to need someone to shoot that ball man, you don't have that beast in Kevin Durant out there right now. So other players are able to get the ball in be able to show a little bit of something. So that's what you got in that last series. And I think you'll get that during this series, also, I'm anxious to see how Steve Kerr plays it because I mean he's obviously not afraid. I mean we talked about in the Houston series. He went to the death lineup that's when Katie was healthy. And that was the Hampton five what they dollar. Yeah. And they were playing more minutes than they had ever had before. Any previous playoff it in the last couple of years, and then almost like, he flipped the script in was only playing, you know, seven guys or whatever in the Houston series and then flip the script in Portland series. So I think the reality is going to be a little bit inbetween. I don't expect seventy guys for Golden State to be playing off the bench, but, but who knows Kerr and RJ kind of made this offenses a week or so ago that, you know, all the analytics guys are saying, maybe Steve Kerr's, not getting enough credit that he should. Yes. He's got the most talented roster, but some of these adjustments that he's making and some of the analytics like how they were forcing James harden. It go a specific way going left and whatnot is stuff that, that no one else in the NBA as doing, you know, one other thing and I think it's a big point. And MAC, y'all give credit for this one, because I it's one that I had at least, you know, coming into the series because golden been often one nine days and Ronald only had four days rest. I mean when you got a team coming off with sweep versa. Team off a seven game series. No surprise in the final since. Oh two two thousand two teams with five or more days rest against teams with less than five days rest, and this is a big gap here. We're talking five total days, comparison, the team with five or more days. Rest three in Australia up three, no against the spread so small sample size. But nonetheless, not surprising. The more rested team wins and covers overall playoffs. If you need a bigger sample size teams with five plus days of rest against teams with less than five days. Straight up those teams with extra arrests seventy one percent against the spread sixty two percent twenty one and thirteen not too shabby there. Although I really liked what Mackey did hear a lot of those times those teams are going to be at home, because there's just a superior team makes sense. They got quick work in the previous series. The other teams struggled road team since oh two in the playoffs that when they have the major. Rest advantage. That is the case here, Golden State's on the road with the rest advantage, only four and five straight up and against the number. So there's some nuggets that was good work by Mackey I and seeing that nowhere else very good. And of course Toronto getting to play game six at home, and then getting to stay at home, not having to go back through customs, that's maybe mitigates that, that rest factor, and let's face it five days off. I think I'd much rather have a team that has seven days offers the team that two days off than nine versus a five. Wrapping it up here, and, again, this is dream preview. Brad powers filling in for RJ's defecit. We got Daryl in the house leap. He's in the house, as well behind the controls Draymond green. It's been playing arguably his best ball of the year. What have you seen from dream on? All right. So let's go back last year. So dream on every year, he's part of the big four and he does the dirty work. He gets the rebounds. He's a great defender. Second team. All NBA defender and me averaged a double digit. Is low double digits, these, he's the weak link of the big four, but he's still in the big four and then this year, we're like, why is he in the big for he no matter because dream was struggling so much you got out of shape he had a toe injury that took a long time to heal and he was averaging during the regular season, seven point three rebounds, seven point three point. So numbers oil down over the course of his career, and, you know, sleep even did some research on this, and found triple doubles for Draymond bagel none zero during the regular season. So what happens is general manager for Golden State actually has a talk with them and dream months like talk about his conditioning and ones. Like I got this, my toes my by Toews better. Now I got this handled so Dray Mont. And we talked about this Brad, I'm like what happened to Draymond green? He looks like you remember when shack lost all that weight for anyway, you, next for, like a couple weeks before I came back on, but Draymond looks Oltra fit. And he looks light on his feet and all of a sudden drain. Mont is an every week he's looking fitter, so he starts out in the playoffs. It's almost like, oh yeah, the place gets more minutes. So should score a little bit. More is average, like ten and a half, and then the next series against Houston as average in like twelve and a half points and then against Portland. He's averaging sixteen and a half points. The offense is going through him. Now I know Durant's out pick and roll with curry looks unstoppable, getting blocks on the defensive end playing great D. Get in the rebound gets a triple double. He's even distributing the ball. Everyone back to back games after not having done that during the regular season the entire year. So I think a little under the radar in terms of Golden State getting better here during the playoffs and against Portland is the tremendous tremendous improve play of Draymond green versus during the regular season who's Garen co is a dream honor, Eggy, little bit of both. I think I think your bottom line is they're going to throw everybody. Him. And because of that, you know, it would doll it used to be the better defender. Now, he's gone on an age. I think we're gonna see some trim. I think we're gonna see some Klay Thompson on 'em. Also plays an excellent defender. So I think they'll throw they'll throw three guys at them. And that's one thing that warriors don't get enough credit for. I mean, in this Ron splash brothers three point shots got Katie yet staff. I I don't think and stuff not. I mean below average when it comes to defensive. But everyone else I mean, it's a Perv Klay Thompson is one of the best defending guards if not the best Edward Allah was on at least earlier career four or five years ago was an all NBA first type of player and Draymond, I think last five years, he's been first or second team all NBA defense. So that's one thing, the warriors don't get enough credit grow quickly here. And then I ask you what your final take, again, dream preview taping this on Wednesday prior to game one that does tip on Thursday. The two teams met earlier this year twice. I'm not sure what you can get from those starting with the first meeting, November at the end of November Toronto. One and overtime didn't cover the spread believe it or not throttle was laying nine and a half points biggest underdog role for the warriors all season. Why? I don't think you can take too much from that. No Steph, we mentioned this earlier. No dream on for the warriors. So I don't know what that data. Sample does for you. And then in the other one, and I thought this was do you have some? We'll just I actually went back and rewatch that game the fourth car your over time. It was it was just on. It was one of those. Oh, and what was what was your eye test as my eye test was the Toronto won the game twice? They basically outplayed Golden State and had it one. And then Durant hit a three, you know, when funnel threes. Right. Find a second. So it was kind of like it was a little bit misleading to say, hey, they won an overtime because they really should have won in regulation, and then they won the overtime on. On top of it. So I think one of those cases where if you just looked at that final score. All only in overtime win with the with two of the big almost doubles and remember, it's true. Remember dream on being out didn't matter back then 'cause dream, I wasn't any good back then fair enough. That's defecit other game. Now, this is kind of more. And here's what I took from that one. And we'll see fez caught any of the action of this one trying to one by twenty Golden State, Golden State this year. I think had like five plus home losses of twenty or more. They had a bunch of these random just no no-shows. Everyone played for Golden State, but Toronto on a game by twenty on the road without Kawhi. And what I did see in that, that I found peculiar staff only had ten points and thirty three minutes out of all the games this season that stuff played it was the only game where he scored ten or fewer points while playing thirty or more minutes. I don't know what you know, major take. From that one. But then that might be maybe a concern, especially considering Toronto did that without Kawhi. Did you catch that one I I did not catch it? But I will say this, both those games were like in two thousand eighteen so there in November, and then to sell gre-. So it is problematic that you've got a Golden State team. Well, what's how do we handicapped, Golden State? Are they motivated well, if ever, there was a case that they should have been motivated after losing in overtime at Toronto? They should've said it's time to take care of business against this wounded raptors squad, and yet, and they get blown out at home. So that's a little troubling longtime ago, though, longtime ago any other closing thoughts on the series. You know, I'd like to say, hey, I think Toronto has outstanding value or I really I really like Golden State, you know, bottom line, this series prices right where I made it. All right. Those good forty five minutes on the series NBA finals, I'm going to go to this early. Dave ass ler has a best bet as far as. Game one goes for Dave ESL. Or do we have that, where we listen to it? Let's go ahead. And take a listen to Dave, let's by dream pod streak intact here, I said last week both here and which sleepy drama was bad matchup for the box, boxers, simply a poor man's warriors with less shooters unless defense, maybe similarities offensively. So why would I think drawn can't slowdown Golden State at home? I don't Tronto six points per game allowed fourth in three point eight finds Toronto won both meetings this season as seven and a half and nine hundred point dogs. So maybe Toronto isn't a great match up with the warriors here in two thousand fourteen Hawaii one files MVP and stop the heat from three pizza, this isn't virgin ground, I think, being serious underdogs in spite of homecourt advantage, the ultimate disrespect for the raptors. I do think rest means rushed at least early for Golden State a love Toronto for the first. Half a law. All right. That's Dave, and he hit throttle first-half best bet for him. I'll make some sense, maybe some early Ross for Golden State. Toronto's had success pheasant I were just breaking that down against Golden State early this year and let let's face it last three games of the Portland series. I know recency bias, but gold state wasn't coming starting those games off with their hair on fire down double digits, you know, three different times down fifteen plus in those games. So that's Dave with a Toronto. I bet. This is RJ bells dream preview. And now an ad from dad. All right. Save money on car insurance. When you bundle home and auto with progressive gotta take these right? What is this? Wow. Where did you get this? I'm talking to you with the hair. Yeah. Where did you get this good stuff, solid? That's not the near that solid stuff. Progressive can't save you from becoming your parents, but we can save you money when you bundle home and auto. Progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and other insurance. Discounts not available in all states or situations. Now back to RJ. Bells dream preview moving along here in fez has WNBA best bet at the end of it, and I have an NBA finals MVP. That's that at the end of the podcasts shifting gears here, and we don't talk about this, too much major league baseball. You know. Much. We don't talk about it. We're about a third of the way a third of the way through the season already. What about almost fifty gains for most teams fessing? You did I gotta give you credit stepped up your game last week. I several pages a major league baseball notes for you. What are some of your main takeaways, and I'm might even lean on sleepy a little bit here because if there's one of the major league major sports that I do not actively handicap, it is major league baseball, believe it or not. I'm doing college football right now and I'll next week, I'll have some college football that's for you guys. That's what I've been working on in the spring. What are some of the big stories when it comes to the first third of the season home runs? The ball is flying out of the ballpark's, and let's try to figure out why. So let me just give you the data first off. So two thousand nineteen the average team is hitting one point three two home runs per game doesn't sound like that much. But last year over the course of the entire year teams only hit one point one four so there's. More home runs per game. And traditionally, April, may home runs are down a little bit just because the weather's a little bit cooler. The ball doesn't travel as far scoring is up in MLB four point eight runs per game. This year for point four four in prior years now. There is a theory that the ball is not the same this year. Sad it was last year. All right. Let me give you some day I will first off the eye the eye test. I don't watch that much baseball. But I can't tell you how many times when I'm watching baseball. I'll see the pirates bell hit a four hundred eighty foot home run. And they'll be like, oh, that's that, that ball went thirty five feet more than any home run. He hit his entire career and then I see Rizzo hit it off the D And the Budweiser sign and all these tape measure shots. But that's all is, and we can really trust her I so I went ahead Sports Illustrated compared April data this year to last year. And they just looked at one hundred mile per hour exit velocity, hit off a batter's bat with an angle of twenty five degrees. So basically, they say are. All a, a well struck ball into the outfield on the fly in April two thousand eighteen fifty two point three percent of those balls that fit that criteria went over the wall for home runs in April two thousand nineteen this year that fifty two point three percent has gone up fifty eight point two percent. Now again weather. More weather so far, that haters weather's been lousy. All right. When when the coolest springs like you look at the weather in Chicago, it's been horrendous anyone who's trying to bet overs and Wrigley field. So I would argue Colorado very cool car, you know, weather in Colorado. Cool hair, so Esco steams has been historically called. Yes. So there's been some snow in the midwest in April. I mean it has not been a certainly it has not gotten warmer, this year than it has in prior years now. You gotta ask yourself what still only one month the data, but basically same launch angle. Same speed fifty eight percent of going over the wall versus fifty two percent. I know sleepy watches a lot of baseball. Sleepy. What do you think about the maybe the ball is not quite the same? Yes. As I feel. I feel pretty confident that there's definitely something going on. You know, in years past, I was always skeptical plan overs this year. Fezzet could honestly tell you. I am not scared to bed in over on any given day does, not matter. I could take multiple overs in a day, and I feel actually pretty comfortable taking him now. Now, any film, the same way. I, I am I for the first time I'm Anne under better more than an over better. But I, I gotta tell you to, like I look at, like some of these grand Salamis that are offered, like total runs. They're gonna get scored in any one day, and it seems like it other goes under by, like four or five runs or over by like forty you you're seeing scores like, literally, that you would never have seen before, like, like nineteen to eleven final scores and the like, you know, one thing, that's interesting. So talked about all this about a home runs are up. Runs are up. We'll interesting for like seems like every year strikeouts are up as well. How can that be strikeouts? Good for unders right? Well, I'm going to try to explain this two thousand nineteen. Let me give you the data. I we've had eight point eight strikeouts per game. And we've seen an increase in strikeouts, literally, since two thousand and ten on a continuous basis of back in two thousand ten they're a little over seven. Strikeouts per game. That went up to in two thousand seventeen it was a little over eight last year eight point six this year eight point eight, but what is going on? Brad, I believe that the batter's have recognized that the ball is livelier, and their launch angles have adjusted to be steeper, because think about now if I hit a fly ball, it's not now it's a home run a well-struck fly ball is a home run. Well, when you have bigger launch angle, you're gonna miss the ball completely more, but you're gonna hit more home runs. So what the bottom line is with more strikeouts, and more home runs and scoring increasing. I'm worried about the popularity baseball. Because think about there. Just aren't that many balls in place. So the in terms of just city famine. Yeah. Yeah. You, you you're, you're basically what it's, it's remember when used to watch like a slow pitch softball game. And the guys would either homerun had only the, and there was no, you know, taking the extra base and the dynamics and the like, and I'm. Seeing less and less of that and baseball. So does M O B have a big problem with the current game? I would argue for me. It's less exciting, and that it's going to hurt interest in the game, especially amongst the millennials in the younger crowd, would you agree? I would I'm gonna have to look at some data and seeing real quick, and I'll get this because I know you got a couple more points when it comes to the baseball allocate some of the TV ratings. Now obviously TV ratings are down. I mean, almost. All across again, just got more options when when it comes to, you know what you can watch whether it'd be net flex or anything online. Let me talk about attendance while you look that up because, you know, one other topic I wanted to talk and by and by the way, I don't have the answers for the baseball like like, like, in terms of the manufacturing, the baseballs, and how could possibly be that the ball can travel further? I do not have the answers. So these are just theories on thrown out the data was able to collect associated with that. And maybe it's possible that the hitters are just hitting better. Maybe it's a small sample two months. We will see at the end of the year. But so far home runs, and run-scoring, most certainly has gone up, and one thing for sure. I wanna talk some, the big free agent signings during the offseason attendance is up in the, the cities that had the big free agent signing. So we're talking about San Diego. Get Manny Machado type of Philadelphia. They get Bryce Harper. Obviously, let me go ahead. Now both teams are exceeding expectations. The Padres were supposed to win about seventy nine games. They're a little over five hundred. The Phillies are in first place they're supposed to win Eighty-eight games. They were supposed to contend Phillies are ten games over five hundred there in first place. So obviously winning helps attendance. And certainly, I think the excitement associated with bringing these players on board has helped as well here, the number sandiego attendance has gone from just under twenty seven thousand two little over twenty nine thousand so a nice bump up in the gaslight district people going and watching baseball more in San Diego. Now in Philadelphia, tremendous increase in attendance almost just under ten thousand people more per game. Are you finding value betting on these teams at home? So. I have not run the numbers on these. It'll be a little biased because Phillies like it's ten games. Over five hundred dollars, probably value across the board. You know, with them. But, you know, it's a good call that probably looking at their home field advantage that you wanna go ahead and bump, it certainly the crowd is more excited. I would make the case. I think maybe the other players are excited to think about management sending a message to them. We're willing to spend a try to bring a winner to our city and that sends a message to everyone. I think that the measurement is convinced committed to win anything about what it must be like the play for the, the Marlins for instance or team, you know, the th that just doesn't go ahead and spend any money on their players. But now what's interesting about all this with the attendant success? And with both teams winning the free agents they've, underperformed, let me give you the numbers here. So Machado nine home runs. Twenty-seven RBI's. He's hitting to sixty six he is a wins after replacement useful stat. How how many more wins is San Diego gun with him? That they had plugged in your average replacement guy and infielder, and Manny is brought one point three extra wins, so far that doesn't even put him in the top one hundred of position players. It's even worse for Bryce Harper. Harper also has nine home runs. He has knocked in thirty six but he's only hitting two thirty two and his wins after replacement are right around one half. So Harper has contributed. An extra half win to the Phillies despite a only thought both guys are worth three or more. At least that's what the market said. Right, when they sign them. Yeah. Now, now, this is only through this, this part of the year, that's a great point. So we have to multiply the years about a third over. So we'd have to multiply these numbers by three but so Harper's really only going to be worth one and a half wins. If things like I if his current year continues so success for the Phillies but it's not Harper's doing I got homework for you. Fez love it. And you can file fezzet on Twitter at fezzet spoke. That's. F. E. Z. Z. I K sports. I wanna know how these teams are doing at home San Diego. And phil. You have the, the attendance is way up and so far the teams are exceeding. I wanna see if there's any correlation at home. You got it. All right. Follow fez, you'll get that tweet out here in the next twenty four hours or so, again, that's at fezzet sports on Twitter, moving along here. That was a little bit of baseball thoughts. Let's talk in this first time, we brought this guy, and we brought him up for the first time, also on our straight out of Egas show where you can listen Monday through Friday, six to seven PM, eastern time three to four Pacific on FOX radio. It's also visible, Sirius XM. We finally got into this jeopardy guy. James Holt, our who is I he wasn't known before this, and we'll get into that, who does from all accounts from what we're reading is they support better. So James now up to two. Point two five million one and just twenty nine days, two point two five million James is averaging more right now through twenty nine games. The then what the record was for a single gain threes it. Oh, say that again. Yeah. So and I, I wasn't saying, right, so right now James Holt's ours is name is averaging more than seventy seven thousand dollars per show, the record in thirty five plus years of jeopardy the single day record on jeopardy was seventy seven thousand by any player that was the record I think Ken Jennings, had a seventy five thousand dollar win. One time he's the guy that wants seventy four consecutive times in a row. But think about that, James, Holt's hours, averaging more than what the record was single game record coming into this. He's doing a variety ways he's answering questions. Correctly and historic rate, ninety seven percent of the time when hold sour answers the answers correctly. That's three times more correct areas getting three times of the answer's incorrect. Let me think how I'm gonna say this three times less than what Ken Jennings was Joe Jennings was getting about nine percent of the time. The answer's wrong James Holt's hours only getting three percent of the time. The answers in thinking about that. They both answer one hundred question. Yeah jennings. Mrs nine holes our only MRs three and it's like a sports bet because instead of winning the money, and you lose that money so very similar to that. What what's he doing? Fez break down for me. How is he breaking these rocks? Okay. Let me start at you. You mentioned that he's he was not known at all. So you certainly wasn't known by the public at all wasn't known by anyone who was betting in sports books, even amongst the pros who bed for a living grimmer. I never jeopardy James is a, a claims to be. And I have no reason not to believe it a pro sports better. That's how he makes his living prior to becoming professional jeopardy contestant. Now, the people that did no I did some checking around asked around the bookmakers do know him, and this is actually refreshing because I can't tell you. I'm Brad, how many times I hear people say there are professional sports, better and no one has heard of them, not one of the bookmakers in town while they do know about him, apparently, his speciality is live wagering betting, while the game's going on, and adjusting that makes a lot of sense to me. Because in many ways, that's what jeopardy requires you to do is to make the right the proper adjustments in game. And a lot of it is indeed basic strategy, and I'll make make the case that jeopardy James as I like to call him. So I don't have to try to pronounce his last name all sour or spell. It is. He is the king at rewriting the basic strategy book, and frankly everything he does is obvious and yet nobody did it. And I'll go back and say, we're in this day of analytics and math. And we say, oh, everything's been optimized. There's no there's no. New inventions if you will. And these everyone has been playing jeopardy is completely in the dark ages. Now, I've said this for years example, final jeopardy first place. Guys, ten thousand second-place guy has eight thousand third-place guy has zero first place guy is always going to bet six thousand one dollars. Always no exceptions. He's going to lock out the second place guy. The second-place guy with eight thousand has to realize this, and should wait. You're very modest amount so that well, if they both get the question the final jeopardy question wrong, he'll win. But the, the thing boys guy rarely does that usually someplace guy that's at all anyway, and so they can't get the final jeopardy strategy. Right. Which is obvious. And I even say like sharp eighth grader can figure that out. But, but they get it wrong even though they know the answers to all of this trivial, and they're geniuses, and I'm a Dumbo yet. The game theory aspect of it leaves them behind what they can't get final jeopardy. Right. How in the world are they going to get the complicated complex in game jeopardy? Right. And they and they don't. And here's where they, they struggle over Ken Jennings. Frankly struggled, Ken Jennings. Got ninety one percent of the, the clues that he buzzed incorrect. Now when he does a daily double he's not going to get ninety one percent. Right. Because he has to answer. But he's, we would still expect you probably get maybe I don't have the exact statistics eighty percents. Yeah. Way more than sixty now. It'll get right? So Ken Jennings would be like if he had, like fifteen thousand like how much do you wanna risk? You'll be like maybe three thousand four thousand ferry conservative whereas jeopardy James plays like truly like an advantage player says why can't risk at all because I'm risking losing the game. But I'm gonna get this question. Right. Maybe ninety percent of the time and because of that, I'm gonna wage, especially earlier in the game a substantial amount on my bankroll. So if he has ten thousand like in the first round he wage. Eight thousand exactly he'll wait your most of his bankroll and build try to build an insurmountable lead as quickly as possible. And frankly we've never seen the game played like this before, but, you know, even from game theory, perspective, and makes so much sense, an I would argue I watch jeopardy enough, I'll see people in second place. They'll, they'll have five thousand the first place guy will have ten thousand how much do you want to wage, and they'll go oh forty five hundred. They won't even wager enough to take the lead your dad, if you get this question, wrong, wager all of it, you know, and, and people are why isn't Steve fezzet? You know, Steve MD Steph ethic jeopardy expert, Steve only two time winner of the super contest. Why, why don't you get on jeopardy because I don't know the answers to the questions or the questions to the answers. And obviously, that's the skill set. That's the number one skill set to winning a jeopardy is you got to be able to answer the questions and obviously jeopardy James can do that as well as anyone. But there's a lot of other contestants that can do that very well. What he has mastered is the buzzer also I would say. The second most important thing is most of the questions, the very best contestants are going to know the answer to so whoever can click that buzzer. Right. When they stopped vocalizing the end of the of the question gets buzzed in and can answer it. And that's an enormous edge. And apparently, he practiced at home and spend hours and hours clicking. Right when the clue ended and then of course other aspects of his game are optimal as while. I love the fact that he plays superfast. He wants to get to every clue he doesn't stall around at all if it starts at the bottom no one else, everyone starts in one category. Goes you know from the top which is to honor down to the bottom of a thousand that say if in the double jeopardy. He's different. He starts at the bottom and goes to the top and skips categories. In case one of his contestants might actually know that specific categories think about this. So I see a sports legends of the eighties for one thousand wha- Ken Jennings says, says legends thousand you know boom, he knew he knows. It's coming. You don't you don't know which one of the six categories he knows it's going to be Muhammed, Al hear some someone in that in that Johner, if you will, to pronounce that, right? Yeah. I'm very good. And then you don't know you're thinking, okay, here comes sports legends. And you're thinking about, you know, Jimmy Connors and like, and then he goes Shakespeare one thousand you know, and it's it's rose you off for that split second. Where he's already thinking about merchant of Venice or the mystery of Edwin drew or whatever's going to come how and so boom he is he has an advantage and also by surfing, the bigger dollar amounts. He's more likely the daily doubles are correlated towards the higher amounts for him to get the daily Douglas think about it. How is he going to get beat? He's going to get beat by contestant that can find a category that. They're great at run the category. And then get a daily double and go ahead and get all. But that's how his lesser opponents are going to get within half of them because you got to have an insurmountable lead going into final jeopardy. You gotta if you're Ponant has ten thousand you got to have twenty thousand and one dollars to have the victory secured. And so everything he does maximize that chance. Now his strategy. What's interesting if I was playing against him, I would stall out go slow as possible. I would have my I try to talk, you know, before I believe that I'll take the American civil war. So they go four six hundred I guess I don't think they allow that but I. What I'm saying. I it would be like a poker tournament, where you're trying to get into the money and you're on the bubble. So, but none of his opponents have adjusted that way. But given he is superior to his opponents all of his play. I see no holes whatsoever. Everything seems to be absolutely optimal. Maybe if I had one slight not need not even criticism. I think he overweight, you're slightly on his daily doubles, and that makes sense that he's maximizing his earnings at a slight detriment of his probability of winning the game. So and I'm fine with that. So, in other words, he's gonna make an extra ten thousand dollars per game by waging a little bit more. Maybe then he should on the daily doubles and maybe his victory probability goes down in those games from ninety eight percent to ninety seven and a half. That's defecit jeopardy expert at least strategically. And again, I think, only he's at a run, James Holt's our. He's won twenty nine times, and I think it's only come down to final jeopardy like twice two or three times. So I think right now since he's already superior knows the answer. The questions he's answering correctly and a higher percentage than anybody in history. And he's playing the game differently than anybody in history and really optimally. He's playing the game it's going to take a fluke the beat them, wouldn't it? Basically, it's going to take him to get the final jeopardy. Question. Wrong somebody's in the game. They have to get it right. He's got to get that is the, the clearest path to defeat is that remember he's gotta get double. What is opponent is number two guy as in order to continue his streak you because of enough games occur? I saw the, the answer in one in the last jeopardy was, what is squarepants SpongeBob SpongeBob squarepants? There you go. I'd be out. So the I don't know if you would be they'd have to go to the judges. Yeah. That'd be that, that would be a close one. But this obviously you need to have knowledge across the board the other path to his destruction, if you will, as it's always possible. So I'm playing against a much lesser opponent. Haven't been watching this very often, but she knew Shakespeare. So she, she ran the Shakespeare category against him. So, and there was another category that was like outside furniture. And he didn't know what the other word forgive Zibo is out there things like that, that more a little bit outside of his his overall knowledge. So if I if the categories come in his wheelhouse, he's going to win almost all the time. And of course, there's got I refuse to believe that some pro sports better in Las Vegas is the smartest man the world. There's got to be a guy in Idaho or a gal in Alabama that smarter just hasn't tried out for jeopardy and honor. But are they going to be smarter and how to play the game? No, no. And these have been taped from my understanding weeks and weeks ago. So it's not like somebody has none. It's not like they're doing it in live time, where someone. Oh, now I see a strategy. Let me get on jeopardy. I mean you got to audition for this, it's like a James have said this in a couple of interviews. It took. Mm several years, audition and stuff to get on again. It's a great point. And if James faced, you know, James who had never been on jeopardy before probably current James would be what like a minus two twenty five just from experience alone. Fair enough that at St. fezzet. 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Our slowing him for RJ bell, Steve fezzet here, and I don't think we're missing anything. Are we best bets? All right. Best bets. If. Into battle. All right. Go Pasco WNBA action WNBA before I get to my pick. It's going to be the game's going to be Seattle at Atlantan Darrar, new producer is from the fine city of hotlanta Daryl ever take in the Atlanta dream or follow the WNBA at all many times overhead of vested interests on the team. Ooh vested interests. You not that, that means we've wagered on the game. Daryl now false. As he has so much to learn. He has a lot to learn, but that's my men. No vested interest hope the you don't like any of the WNBA players. Oh, Becky Hammon, and I have before, you know, I don't tell vanfleet and don't allow Jimmy G but before, before, both of them, Becky ham, and when she was with the silver stars loved Becky Hammon. You guys did you know what I'm talking about. 'cause she she's a coach for the Spurs, obviously. Yeah. And that's what you meant by vested interest in my correct. Yeah. Fair enough that legs on that some legs on the court. How about that? There we go. Fair enough. That's Darrell give me your best bet. Fast bet is the Atlanta dream now there's no line up on this game. It's Friday, Landis hosting Seattle and give you by price. So it's the best bet at minus six or less against the reigning WNBA champions. These Seattle storm me, make my case for fading Seattle Seattle, not nearly the team that they were a last year. Obviously, if I'm picking against them when the catching up to six points here, the MVP the league last year brianna Stewart played for Seattle. Well, she's. In Basseterre to the game. She's not even on the Seattle team anymore. She went and blood or legs. So she's out for a year. So she was critically important obviously being them be sue bird. Also out there point guard with a knee injury. So they're down to of their most important players. And all the stats say that the Seattle team is a shelve itself when neither one of those two gals plays for the Seattle storm. Also, it's a bad situation spot for Seattle. Very little. Preseason player practice for the WNBA. A lot of the best players are actually overseas playing another leagues. And the like and so what happens is a lot of the players, don't come in. They haven't played together in those practices or critical the first week. So the fact that Seattle, it's Wednesday night Seattle's in Minnesota, they're playing the links and then they got a wheel back across the country or all the way across the country and go to Atlanta and play Friday night, while whereas Atlanta's had the whole week off big scheduling edge, especially this early in the year for the Atlanta dream. Now Atlanta is without one of their best players angels. She's been a big part of the team really for like the past decade, but I don't have her worth nearly the amount of a brand store. So the play is the Atlanta dream minus six is the buy price Friday night against Seattle and fez WNBA, that is something you originated in last couple of years. Your record WNBA. Yeah. Record was right around sixty seven percent. The last two years in the WNBA. And I'm embarrassed to say this. I've been. So Wimpy in the WNBA, I've given out four lean so far, in the WNBA liens and strong liens a four no instead of having a plays weakness, as we Ken Jennings in jeopardy, I'm not wager. You are now jeopardy James now. Wagering enough. It's the WNBA basically a Connecticut alumni game. Super brianna Stewart seems like every name you bring up. They played for Connecticut. Yeah. They played for kinetic Minnesota just got a couple rookies from Connecticut. And they're really, well, yes, there enough that is Steve fezzet with a W B A best bat and again, you can file says on Twitter at fez exports. That's F. E. Z Z. I K sports you can follow. Sleepy Jay on Twitter at sleepy, J underscore pre-game. Is that correct sleepy J? That is correct, Darryl, if he's in the house. What's your Twitter handle, Darryl is J? U S. T. D A. R Y, just dear all just Daryl on Twitter. I am Brad powers. I am not giving out my best bet. We're going back. To the NBA finals here fest. I'm embarrassed because you got half. Got after this a lot earlier than I did. But you got after it when it was only available on the east coast and faraway places. I still think there's value here and I'm going to do some math, and you can see if you can back me up here. I'm gonna take Steph curry to win the finals MVP minus one forties. A fair price. I think you can find maybe minus one thirty five. If you shop around really hard at least I'm Vegas right now, I think Golden State has about a seventy five percent chance to win the finals. You agree with that. Maybe a little high couple presented, maybe a little I called seventy two ballpark. Yeah. I think the mice to eighties a little cheap, that's just an own personal lean I if you gave me a hundred bucks to bet, I would bet Golden State, minus two to eighty, so that's why I'm a couple of percentage points higher than what the market is. If that, what's that the button, you wanna bet? Yup. I said, a Lee. Lean. I thought you said you said, you would bet them if you gave me two hundred eighty bucks you can give me two hundred eighty bucks. I'll give you minus to sixty five you want about that. Yeah. Let's do it. We gotta bet. So I got minus two sixty five on the warriors, and what do you have take back? Plus two sixty five. Oh. Wow. See how he did that guy thirties playing. Right. That's right in the middle there. Just kidding. All right. So we got a bet. That's good. We haven't had one in a while here on the dream preview. All right. So seventy five percent. I'm taking a, a stake now with the warriors on top of this. If that's the case at the warriors win. I think Steph curry got about an eighty five percent chance to win the finals and hear me out kiva my Steph curry has never won an NBA finals MVP. So you had Igwe Dowa one at the one year and katie's one at the last couple of years. So I think there's going to be a growing sentiment, especially since Golden State's been so good with Steph in the lineup and Katie out and keep in mind, katie's going to miss at least one game if not more in this series. So seventy five percent chance that Golden State wins the series, eighty five percent chance that Steph curry wins the finals if indeed wins the finals MVP, if Golden State wins at so point seven five times. Point eight five I got sixty three point seven five percent. Is that what you got fest? Yeah. And you know what I like about this is that even if you're not right on Golden State being more likely to win the series and the underlying, Mark and just use the market number which is seventy two percent. And you take that point seven two. We'll go at that point eight five which with that. Or do you think that's hop domestic everything, that's fair? Oh, I think point eight five very fair. I almost talk myself into ninety percent. Draymond green is the only. Real path. I think you've gotta worry about because I think even of clay as a big series, the only reason clay as a big series because Steph is setting them, up and getting all these assists in and the like so, so we use that point eight five I get sixty one percent chance. So if it's a sixty one percent chance bet being conservative ear, you can lay up to what miles one fifty two and have a profitable that and you're only lay in minus one thirty five miles one forty looks good to me, Mr. powers. Thank you fess again, that Steph curry to win the finals MVP right around, minus one, boarding. That is my best bet fund show here we went about eighty minutes. Our twenty hear anything else, you want to add fees. Mo just the you're like in your chops, college football games of the year are starting to come out all over the place. You want to talk about that for a couple of you. Prepare. I mean it's complicated. I think it'd be better next week. Once we have lines out from a couple of different places, and I'll break it down. I mean, quite I mean I start obviously landed season power and as I do op downs for all one hundred and thirty teams I go and just real basic at the start. I look at a couple of key categories. Turnovers was team fortunate or not th the previous season when it came to turnovers, because there's a randomness to that outside of teams like Alabama and whatnot. And then I look at close wins and losses games decided by seven points or less and see, did you win a lot of those games. Did you lose again regression towards the mean they're look at returning production coming back? You know, it doesn't sound too complicated. But when you factor in it's not thirty two teams it's a hundred and thirty teams there requires some work. I watched spring games. I buy all the preseason magazines. I read pry fifteen hundred plus pages, when it's all said done during the course of the summer and come out with my power, and, and the reason I love that in these is. I wish the syndicates aren't getting involved because you can't get enough down and you're talking nickels, and dimes or five hundred thousand dollar bets and for guy like myself. That's those are decent bets for me. And what I really like is it's me against the bookmaker and I have an ego. And I have a really big ego. When it comes to college football. I think I know better than the bookmaker. In fact, I know I do because they haven't watched bring games I have. So, you know, when it comes to college football, I think you get, you know, ahead of a lot of major line moves, and I think no lines are just wrong. You and I did that one. Here here today and that lines off more than a touchdown as good as you are in the NFL. How many games and CGT released all the NFL games weeks two through sixteen? How many games are off more than touchdown? When it comes to the NFL none, I remember. I bet the bears. Week two again at Denver. And I caught plus one. I couldn't believe it. I was like, wow. This line is completely off the bear should be lay into so there you go three points. Wow. And that's through zero. And I told you today, I texted you on, hey, this went off wrong team favor and the other team was favored by a touchdown. I say wrong team favored this lines way off in an already moved before you bet at people are outside moved two points. And I said for forget, it still off more than a touchdown. The that the the teams catching four and they should be laying seven it was Baylor at home against West Virginia. So to get in front of those big line moves off seven to ten points. Just doesn't happen in any other sport. You bet bail or plus four versus West Virginia in that game. And one more question before we wrap up, you mentioned, snuck, snuck in a little wiseguy comment where you said, you look at turnover differential. And he said, of course not for Alabama because we know they're going to win the turnovers because I got the better athletes. Yes. Because there's so much less. Parody in college than the NFL do use some kind of chart where you take a top ten team and say, you know what I just expect Ohio State or Georgia on an average year to win the turnovers by you know, maybe seven or eight. Yeah. It's something, you know, Pete Carroll's USC teams were always winning turnover battle by fifteen plus and of course of a season for those I, I mean, I hate to say, I have different roles when a lot of times, those elite, four five programs. I have different rules for those and same at the bottom. I mean you see teams like you teff as that. I mean, unless there's an entire dynamic change in that program, a brand new hotshot coach. I mean, even though their minus fifteen turnovers one year. It's not like I automatically think they're gonna go from, you know of one and eleven th the sitting there close to bowl eligibility. Just doesn't work that way. In college football Baranova, though, you tip does that the major advantage of not having the ball very often on offense that does help keep the turnovers from going crazy fair enough. That's defense. Like I'm Brad powers. That'll do it here for the dream preview podcast. We'll talk to you guys next week. And of course, RG will be back next week. Take care. Enjoy the NBA finals, thanks for listening to RJ bells dream preview. Catch the wiseguy roundtable each week college football released on Wednesday NFL on Thursday. Don't miss any winners. Subscribe on apple podcasts or wherever you listen, visit podcast one dot com and download the podcast one out. Have a question for RJ. 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The Sports Reporters - Episode 183 - NBA Finals. A Dodger off to a historic start. And is Serena's dominance over in tennis?

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 183 - NBA Finals. A Dodger off to a historic start. And is Serena's dominance over in tennis?

"The. Winning journalists New York Times, fillers. Topic out bounds no opinions, left unsaid and institution for sports, talk, and information. This is a sports reporters. Here's Mike Lupu. Mitch Albom at Bob Ryan, Gruber, MLB dot com and my new novel for middle graders. Bagger Bob Ryan globe. Boston Globe, and ESPN, and I'm album of Detroit Free Press. And this is the sports reporters podcast, the podcast incarnation of the long running Sunday morning TV. What do we do that match? When, when do we do this? We do it. Well today, we'd be Monday. So apparently, we do it on Monday and Thursdays Mondays and Thursdays. Now twice the fund what it used to be on television. And it gives us an opportunity to wrap up things that happen on the weekend. And the thing that happened that everybody's talking about is the third quarter explosion, that may have literally shifted this series away from what might have been an upset on, on the part of the Toronto Raptors to what starts to look like a similar story with the Golden State Warriors with the caveat that if they keep losing players at this clip, eventually, it's going to be Steph curry playing against everybody. Let's talk about what happened in the one nine one four comeback from the warriors last night in Toronto. Here's what I think, and I don't think you guys are going to disagree very. Much. I think the warriors won the championship in six minutes last night. It's the damnedest six minutes. I can remember lately, in an NBA final, and that eighteen zero run. It, it completely changed the night, the narrative, the finals, I think, when they get back to Toronto as great as those images, Ben I'm doing a parting shot about that today. I think they're going to be playing for their season and on top of that mitchum. Bob, what we saw last night to me was the grandeur of what the warriors have been no Durant. They lose Klay Thompson. All these guys come off the bench. Boogie cousins is a wonder but everything they have been in this generation, they were when they needed to be last night, but me give you a number that kind of clarifies the way they play basketball when they are doing as they did last night. Eighty nine that would be eighty nine percent. That would be the percentage of cyst on baskets. They had in this game last night. Thirty eight baskets, thirty four assists, each starter had at least four assists and and. Very integral to the whole 'cause is, was the fact that Mr. cousins started and was had a nice eleven ten six stat line and enhance their offense immeasurably with his passing. I think the question is the question is about that third quarter? Run the Golden State win that or to Toronto lose it did did Toronto just, you know they're coming out of the first half arguably should have been a lot more than five points. But they still have the lead coming out the places raucous. It's on their side stuff. Seems to be happening to, to Golden State. You know, bad omens guys going down. Steph curry having a bad start, and then they basically laid down. I, I mean I don't understand that. You know, they talked about on the post game, some of the guys and I agree with them. You have to put your foot on the gas pedal when you are at home, especially when, you know, the Golden State Warriors are third quarter team. And I get it that they were missing. What Bob, I think you'd have to mid as a basketball may they were good shots. They missed they just got cold. Okay that happens sometimes, but when you start. Getting cold like that. Your coach needs understand. Okay. First of all, you call some time outs. And you say okay, we're one of those, it's just not going in drive. You know, star star trying to make things happen with with free throws so that you break up an eighteen nothing run. And they did not do that. They didn't play tight defense the way they had in the first half. I that's what surprised me the most not that Golden State, does this all the time at that they do with backups. They do it with starters. They own the third quarter in the NBA, but the fact that Toronto at home was as meek as they were during that run. Then spent the whole rest of the second hand desperately trying to catch up. I wanna land nearly did. And you did want to talk about that, but don't you think that Toronto's is culpable in this as as guests state is laudable times to we talk? And how many times have we heard Bob Ryan say it's a miss make leak? Okay. And again they weren't that tremendous on offense. I'm looking at this thing here. Okay. I don't know how many shots, they missed I guess we could look it up. But here's the sequence and it's not like Steph killed. That was what was Mitch. That was what was amazing about what was happening in that secret. Iga Dala makes jumper. Steph makes it to pointer eagle again. Draymond green Klay Thompson Klay, Thompson, again, Klay concert. Again, drain on and finally, finally. After the six minutes the the rapture score again. But, but I don't think I don't think they lied lay down. I just think that they got caught in a hurricane, and I looked at the time out, I mean, a nurse, call one two minutes into this, and then he called when, like five minutes into this, but at that in that moment, Bobby, can, you think it was like trying to stop the ocean? Of course it was. It was frightening. It was happening. And as just pointed out the estan ashamed thing about it was that it was on the road into I have seen major explosions. Way back when the the Celtics twenty straight points against the Lakers to close out the nineteen sixty five game five starting to fourth quarter of in nineteen eighty six day one on thirty six to six thirty six six third quarter against the Atlanta Hawks who are very good team in Boston. But doing this on the road just is this, this is a whole other matter, one other thing, I think shows how Toronto was complicit in their own in its own demise. And I met this note I took notes for this game was too many dumb needless fouls, they put on the line. Yes. Back court. We used to call him back court fouls back court fouls, reaching stupid fouls on rebounds reward he made and just stupid stuff that, that, would, you know, gave free points to a team didn't need any help so that they and they have a lot of. Hold on. Hold on just one. Second. I and I don't like to get into the way back machine too often on this thing. But Bob, what this reminded me of when I was a kid. Okay. Was after Willis went down that time against some Lakers, the way the Dave stallworth, and the Mike weird and surrounded Wilt Chamberlain because this became a role player night, even with Steph curry who clearly wasn't himself and after Klay Thompson went down this became a rallying role player night, and it can only help them going forward. This was the camp. Call it a coming out party because he's in his fourth year or fifty. But this was a showing the world. He's hey, I'm still around. I could play this game a little bit Quinn. Cook. Threes, and at a point, when they needed them, and, you know, he's suddenly Quinn cook. And of course, we know we know what you know, Livingston. Okay. Livingston's known quantity, but we hadn't even heard Shaun Livingston's name. I. He's that guy how how about the three alley oops for bogut, the last one that left handed one, one hand Jim bogut, three three three hour Yuxi. Here's a guy that two months ago was back in home and back home in Australia. Well, how many times have you seen a game with three different centers, essentially, you know all having something to do with it? You know, usually when you go to your second center, you're ready in the in the quote unquote stiff category, but I want to show you the flip side of this. I want to read you the flip side. I'm reading this the third quarter play by play as you or Mike. Okay. These are the while while while Golden State was racing up and down the court and hitting everything here, the shots that Toronto was trying to counter this with Kawai Leonard misses a twenty five foot. Jumper quiet Leonard MRs thirteen foot. Jumper. Mark assault misses a twenty one foot jumper, Markus. Mrs twenty. Seven foot jumper Frederick fleet. Misses a twenty-seven foot jumper. Okay. You get you get the idea here. Are you trend? Are you saying you're spotting a trend there album? And, and here's an in this is another. I mean, there were a lot of big story lines on this. If people are saying making a big fuss over this game. It's because I agree with you, Mike. I think the series ended last night, and you know, we may be proven wrong series or longer than the always series, are longer than you think NBA series things happen. If for example, Thompsons confidence about coming back is proven wrong, and he's not in the lineup and you still don't have Durant an and dollars hobbled and you don't have other. I mean, come on. There's only so many guys you commit miss. But, and here's my, my big point here. Kawai Leonard had thirty four points last night, that to me was the most ineffective thirty four point performance. I have ever seen when they needed him to lead. He missed every shot during that run. One of eighteen points, taking bad shot or longshots, and he missed four shots down the stretch and didn't come through for them when they absolutely needed. I wanna we think of him with the people that he's being compared to Michael Jordan. Kobe things that doesn't happen with those guys. And I thought he really came up small when they absolutely needed him in, in a game that they have to have going into Golden State. What do you think I agree, Mitch? And again, it may just be an example of atlas finally shrugged for the Toronto Raptors because we obviously, none of us are gonna fall. What we have seen from Koa Leonard. But if somebody had told you that, that on a night with no Durant, that clay and Steph would not combined for fifty points and that clay would hobble off the court not to return and Toronto was at full strength thing that screwed, you know, Kyle Lowry got into foul trouble and just refused to get out. Okay. You. You would have had them down to win that game. And again, when this is all over the shot selection, what the warriors doing those six minutes, though, six minutes to me where the NBA finals last night. I hope this thing continues to be entertaining. I hope it continues to be compelling. But if you're if you're the warriors and clay does come back on Wednesday and I still don't know when we're going to see Durant. But everybody seems to be more optimistic. The, the warriors got up. They got knocked down again in the first half last night. They were lucky that they were only down five we agree on that. Right. It could have been much worse at halftime. They, it's like they, they didn't just get to one e they got right back up at the start of the third quarter and say, hey, this is who we are. This is who we've always been. Well, let's not let's not miss this twenty seven seconds left and it's one six one four twenty seven seconds left and it's still one six one, oh, four and Andre. Good. Isla takes a shot. Okay. Granted wide open shop. But I have seen. Guys miss wide open shots in that situation with seven seconds left and it was one of those. Yes. Absolutely. There's a perfect play when it goes in. And what are you shooting for? We still have time left on the clock of it. Mrs he's made those shots before you are talking about a guy who never gets mentioned when you talk about the big stars of Golden State, and yet is a NBA finals MVP. He's got that on his resume. So clearly, he knows how to live up to the big moment, and that was the dagger that put the thing to the end. We can't forget the fact that this thing despite everything we're saying about how badly Toronto play they were within a fast day where the war on field. Mitch the warriors were on films. But the end especially with, you know, clay's not just a score for them. He's a very. A good defender. Okay. But what you were talking about Bob and Mitch mitch's time about the shot selection, even down the stretch. I felt that there were possession after possession, where it's almost like guys on the raptors did almost were shooting the ball as a last resort. They Bob day did not get good possessions. They did not have good offense sequences. It was like they panicked a little bit until they found. They scored those ten points at the end and wasn't that an interesting debate with the announcers between Jeff and Mark Jackson last night, because Jeff dot that adults should not have shot the ball. And by the way, nurses over there on the sideline screaming formed Pol he did want to disagree with Jeff. You got to take that Sean. I agree with Mark you, you, if you're out there in your him, and you've done, what you've jumped that too. You gotta take that show. Now you talk about inches. We had one inch to could've changed the game that as of Leonard makes the steel. In case. What's going on? He came so close to make an steel and he goes down, then I'm thinking today. Would he have gone all the way tied the game? But would he played two thousand nineteen basketball pulled up and shot at three and go for the whole enchilada? No, I'm very serious. It's a great, great question. We'll never know. But he came so close. And he was really distraught after you could. You know, when when that show went in obviously, and I had a lot of debate this morning on certain television program about the oh, how wide open Donna wasn't in fact, ESPN, even put up a graphic, and they showed how far away and footage every player on the raptors team was from him. Well, let's not sensical. That's ridiculous discussion. It would they were scrambling sorry. The ball, doubling up to starting off by doing the logical thing which they want to get the ball of Curry's hands. I find an major in scramble and you're running around like the look and you try to close all the windows in the thunder storm in, you know, in a three story house and, and, and somebody's going to be open. And that's there's no fault there, there's no fault whatsoever in effect. They looked like you know, we'll have a totally different discussion. If as I said, he makes that steel so let's just put that one to rest rested. Let us take a stand here. A sports reporter, STAN and stop this discussion about him Paul Russo wide open scrambling. It's of those graphic devices that the, you know they're helpful, but you can do too much with it. What it doesn't account for the game of basketball just accounts for inches and see all the rest of it doesn't account for how the sport is played. I also thought that down the stretch there Fred van bleed, who has admittedly. He shooting at a seventy per se. Clip? So why wouldn't it be competent? But this is not his team. You know, it's quite Leonard's team. And there were possessions there, where Leonard didn't even get the ball and he took a shot, and I'm thinking my watching the same thing, quite Leonard is singular on that team. He's head and shoulders above, and he's so strong, as was evidenced a million times when he went into guys like cousins, and now them over. Yeah. Let him drive. Led him make something happens. Great at the free throw line sixteen for sixteen from throws the you know, you live and die with these miracle shots by guy like bam bleed, and you see what happened and he's to me. He had the ball in his hands. Too much of the time down that street. Hey, mitch. And Bob, do we ever find out for sure. What was bothering Steph curry last night because and she didn't ask him in, in the? Dehydration. Yeah. Was what was it? How'd you like chill like Kersee answer at your job, go find out that go come, tell me. Not. That was funny. And by the way, how about Steve Kerr starting boogie? Okay. And I know these down deal, I mean, Steve Kurtz, great coach and starting boogie and put me down to someone who never thought he was going to be all that important to the warriors. Well, his skill set was on full display last night. Guiding played in a month and a half. And he, he looked like it was the third game of the season. He had fresh legs. And he was so clearly happy to be out there that that was an amazing thought it was a story of the game. I really clay was great until he went out to Mitch. Klay went out and that's the whole point. And he was still there helping. Exactly. When they needed him, we're no. He was. Boogie was again. It is Bob his talked about this before. We've all talked about it. He has rather. Extraordinary skill set for a guy his size who will step back and make threes. But then, oh, by the way, will drive to the basket and finger roll in traffic. We have gone deep into. Session here and the name has not surfaced which is just because we are all taking him for granted. But once again, Mr. Draymond green was one. Of yet, another you-know-what shouldn't he was? You know his talk about range. He didn't any threes, but his his passing his defense. His savvy his accurate is seventeen ten nine seventeen ten nine and his using the mall as. A very useful person to have on your side. Yeah. As we speak, you know, someone who would just be listening for the very first time in never saw a Golden State Warriors basketball team. They would come out even twenty some minutes into this discussion and say boy that Golden State team sounds like they've got a lot of guys on. It sounds like they got a lot of talent on, and you're absolutely right. And we should've mentioned Draymond green at the star. But he was the engine that made that whole train run all night long. I mean, you know, Steph came through when you know in a couple of key shots, obviously, Klay Thompson was big at the beginning. Obviously boogie cousins being able to continue to play like that play defense blocked shots. You know, alter shots make points inside and outside as you pointed out, Mike. All good and all, but all periodic Draymond was constant from beginning to end. And he he pushed the pace I mean he was like a point guard racing up the floor multiple times. They are. And he said he said he didn't bring up energy in the first game. He made up for it in that when he was absolutely key. Here's your Queen quick cook. And I, I know that he has become a rather valuable role player for them. Okay. I forgot he wants joke. That's how little attention, I've applying to Quinn cook, but when they were maintaining their lead in the second half, those three threes that he may were huge very very big very, very timely, very strategic and it's going to be one of those notes, when they when they win they are going to win, whether it's going to be in five or six whether they're going to win, and they're going to going to have to put him into discussion. He's going to be back in that postseason highlight film a little contribution. He made because they're going to be able to find contributions that everybody is. How about we by the way you mentioned Mitch about how how deep they are in centers. You Jordan bell went from starting to he's. Yeah, that's yet another. So yeah, but I just I freaked. I love the bogut thing, the whole thing, the just the idea. Well so here here's a question going forward. Is there? I mean they tried that boxing one down. The stretch was interesting, and it worked, and it got, then let me tell you something basket match. Let me tell you some, it always worked, like a charm in wreck league base- basketball. Okay. I put four guys in a box and have him chase the ball. And guess what it still works, but, you know, Paschal Siaka was held down by Draymond green and I thought that was a huge part because he's a key player for them and has been when that when they're excellent and he had definitely an off night. But is there something in the days that they have, and they don't have a lot? That Toronto can do to take another game. I mean, they gotta stop if they're smart. If their coaches smart, he's new to this, too. He's not thinking about the series. He's just thinking about a game. You know how do we get a game? Get that thing back to home court Toronto. So how do they win a game against against Golden State? I think it to have any chance to win the series and I'll defer to Bobby on this Mitch I memorized said they had to win game one will they did to give themselves a chance. They better get a game before Durant comes back because if they don't get a game before Durant gets back. They're gonna lose him by. The only thing about the whole Durant thing is we don't know what, how ready he's going to be, you know, how much of the rant that we remember, we're going to see I'm just hesitant on that one. And just like guys, I'm a little wary about the Thompson thing. I wanna see Klay Thompson show up. I wanna see what he's got offer with this hamstring thing. I mean that I mean we've already said, the only so much attrition you can. Look worse when it first happened than even did by the time he was walking to the locker room after the game. And I think by the way, Mitch, you'll be happy to hear this. I think he was moving around well enough to get a few comments into Drake after captured well, captured by somebody's iphone and thank you for that. What do you call him? You know, your, your dumb ass or something like that. You know that Durant calls him Aubrey the trash talk has actually been elevated. I think on both sides know that didn't make me privately happy, I will say, but, you know. No, I hate to be the member of our squad that keeps reiterating this. But hamstrings are not to be messed around with. Okay. I said, this about six months ago, a about a guy named LeBron James and got laughed, who what happened. You having suffered many a hamstring thing when I was running track, you can walk just fine on a on a sore hamstring, as so Mike, you say, well, he looked better in the hallway you, you can do, but you can't run and you'll snap it or you'll rip it. The those I've never seen a hamstring if it's really a hamstring injury. I've never seen the hamstring injury. Be fine three days later. It's always there. It's just a question of how much can you tolerate on it before you snap it? And, you know, so I'm not I'm with Bob, let me see him play. And, you know, and missing looney is not that's not a small deal there. And he had a major. He went down on his shoulder. They called it a chest contusion or something. But I thought he landed on his shoulder thought him on a dislocated his shoulder. He's a big part of their team as well on Durant. I don't think is going to be back at least for game three. So if and good Dala was was was limping as well. So if they are if. Go back a little overconfident and they have lost at home. You know this year. They weren't all that they were cracked up to be at home. You know, at least in a regular season, this is why I'm asking, what does Toronto have to change to take advantage of that? And, and, you know, if they go in and steal three they, they at least know they're coming back to Toronto to put to put a superman Cape. Back on. And he's got a play way better. But you know what that to me you reference dream on being on him match? That was that was pride on Draymond part. Okay. I think he was insulted that complaint as well as he did in game one. And I think it became his mission to shut him down in game two. And so they really had no secondary score last. I mean there wasn't anybody that you bought? Right. You think you're not there's nobody down the stretch even as they were coming back. Oh, throw him the ball. A little bit of invalid whenever whenever building the lead. But no, not not. No. They did not know their discussed. I mean I hate to be so battle. But Scott played better. They can, you know, once again, guys we all take a deep breath. We've been we've all collective through, you know, hundreds of these literally Assyria series and all sports. It is a series. And we've already seen some major Jackson positions not only within game to game but within a game was we saw last night. And so I'm, I'm just very cautious. And in grandiose predictions about thing I bought, I hate making him. I don't like make like I prefer to sit back and watch. That's all. Here's here's all say, though, and I we were all in agreement that Seoul was going to be an important figure in this series because he was the true post guy. Okay. And he had he had a fine game in game on. But last night they decided to put a couple of centers in the game. And when they did I thought that had as much to do with changing this game is anything else, not just boogie. But even seven minutes from the those who are very meaningful seven minutes from Mr. bogut while you're right about Marcus, Omar. Mark souls of bigger part of that team than than we tend to think and, and that was a really weeknight for him last night. He only made two baskets had six total points at six rebounds. He's he's, he's the center hit six total ribbons, none offensive. When Leonard is your leading rebounder by by almost twice as much as anybody else. You got something wrong there. And then let's say this about about Lowry. Can you do something besides foul? I mean his plus minus was minus seventeen. I mean you might as well not have been out there, you know. So, you know, if I answer, my own question he has to at least get the surface level has to play better. And Siaka has to play great if they do that. And the injuries are there in Golden State. I'm not going to say it's impossible that, by the way. Bob's right. And we talk all the time and have talked for years about how the, the biggest moments in sports can change on, on one moment. Quite Leonard was really close to steal that ball on the last warriors possession. And if he does, if he does, then we are having a different conversation today. But I just think when we look Bob, I'm not I'm not writing them off. I do. I think the warriors are going to win yet and so okay, but I'm not writing them off. But but they had a chance to stake, their best possible claim to the. O'brien trophy last night, and they let it get away, even with that, rush at the end in six minutes at the start of the second-half. No that was it. It was an historic six minutes in history of the final. It's nothing that they out the first time Abe I scored twenty points in a row since including the two at the end of the half since the merger. I don't know why they're making a big deal. But yeah, all right. Fine. So that, but it that's forty two years. So that's a long time. Yes, we saw something historic last night, as I say, doubly historic because it was on the road. That's the thing there's no way, if someone Ted you in the object, some is going to score twenty straight points in an NBA game eighteen start that thought of third quarter that you wouldn't have assumed it would have been a home team. Well, but what was I it still to me? It's a five game series now in which home court has now gone back to the warriors. It is still an extremely compelling series to me, and Mitch, you're right. You're right. Until we know the physical status of extremely important players on the Golden State Warriors. Yeah. We, we don't know what's going to happen. But come game three on Wednesday night. But again, it's that was that was that was some game basketball last night to watch on fold and I don't want to put a bow on it echoing that am I the only one who feels that this is just fun to watch. This is fun basketball. The watch. It's good defense. It's great offense. And I compare this to the groaning, we would go through in the mornings after watching a Houston Rockets game. And it's. Many have any skin in this game. We are set back and we're not homeless as sports fans. And yeah, I completely agree. And Bob, I think it's because like you said every starter with at least four assists. You're watching passing passing integral in this game for both teams. You've got centers who know how to pass the ball, you've got guards who know how to pass the ball. You're watching a team concept here on both sides. Even though there are superstar players versus the, you know, stand dribble stand dribble stand drivel backup, pull up shoot. Okay. I it's just such better basketball. So I I love these final so far. I just want him to go on. I, I wanted to go seven no matter what I would love to say, I agree with you. And, and so I it moving along. Everybody's got it to do list drop off, the dry, cleaning pick-up some milk. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance. And the thing is you don't have to drop off or pick up anything. All you have to do is go to Geico dot com and fifteen minutes. You could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance got extra money in your pocket. Just may be the most rewarding to do that. You do today. How about some tennis miss? All right. I my, my friends, Mr. album, and Mr Ryan, that they know how passionate I am about tennis. It was really the first sport when I was a kid in sports writing, thanks to the great, bud Collins that I actually made any money I saw all aboard. I saw board McEnroe Wimbledon tennis. And I and Bob. Mitch. No, I appreciate this time in men's and women's tennis, where three guys have won a combined total of fifty two majors, which compares to twenty-six for board McEnroe Connors. Think about that. They've won twice as many majors, and counting as board McEnroe and Connors. And on the other side of the sport, we have, you know, Serena Williams, who is twenty three majors pass Steffi Graf trying to get to Margaret Court and she she and Federer are both going to turn thirty eight this year. It's almost impossible to wrap your mind around this. But Mitch we're talking about this before the thing, what young this canon from from Fort Lauderdale did on Saturday, makes me think that it's going to be very difficult for Serena other than maybe at Wimbledon. If she gets a good draw in a good schedule to, to get to twenty four she doesn't play enough tennis now and she doesn't move as well. And I said to Mitch. Before we started today, there's a thing that went on that I saw in this match that went on for a long time with tiger. Woods even after he came back. The aura is gone. This kid was Mitch. She wasn't afraid of her. Yeah. No. There was a lot of pre pre match discussion about the ten in history and, and her thoughts about Serena on, and it was pretty clear. She lost, by the way this morning. She's at the French Open. Yeah. Okay. Well anyway, yes. No, I think that's the parallel between. To tiger. In terms of this fact, that generation grew up worshipping him and putting posters on the wall are, you know now they're here? And, you know, the pregnant the dragon breathing fire in, and they don't care. The, the maybe the dragon isn't breathing. Capable breathing fire too much anymore. But, you know, no, they don't care. And they, they're ready to to, you know, withstand whatever we're going to get from the from the demigods that they once worshipped. Well. It seems almost tragic that she, you know, someone gets to twenty three and and just can't get that twenty fourth. And of course, it Margaret corden. It's a sketchy twenty. It's a sketchy twin because eleven was at eleven of those. Australian open. We're basically she. She just had a she just had a beat a kangaroo on the other side of the court, there was nothing. Nobody don't only Australians were playing. But yet and still, there was a piece in the Washington Post that not an uncommon piece that said, well, you know, she's still, she's still making her point. Serena, just by being there, you know, because she, you know, she's there, and she's proving that motherhood and age and all these things don't stop you. And and I don't know. Maybe that's why she continues to play on, because let's face it, if Serena's not playing tennis. What's her platform? You know, it's a big difference between being active and not it's a big difference between having your talk show on TV or trying to, you know, make a point when you don't you know, you don't have in every night, opportunity or every dapper to do this is her talk show, this is stage and maybe she continues to play because she wants to make statements about the world and sport and all the rest of it. But in terms of winning. You know this is a winning society. And if you're not winning people don't listen to your statements that loudly. That's sad truth. Which, by the way, I was there at Wimbledon, a longtime ago when Evonne Goolagong has mom won Wimbledon, I remember Clint Kim, Clijsters little child running out on the court after she won the open. But there is this idea. She's the only Serena is the only working mother in the history of tennis and have to say eight gets old after well, I don't think that is part of an essential part of this narrative, and longer, I think the essential part of this narrative is, she is up against this mom is up against father time. And that's what I'm seeing Kronos knows that hiring and retaining a modern, workforce of salaried hourly full and part time workers can be challenging the specially in today's. Competitive job market. That's why Konno's puts HR pay will talent and time in one place. So HR professionals supporting a blended workforce have all the tools, they need to engage in motivate, their people every step of the way. Learn more at Kronos dot com slash HR swagger, krona's workforce innovation that works twenty year old a twenty year old beater. Yeah. I mean and by the way, hitter off the court, the way Naomi of Sokha hitter off the court at the US open final the way. Angelique Kerber hitter off the court in the in the Wimbledon final and guys on the men's side, everything that you'd want to be happening is happening, which we had an epic match yesterday between Stam Bob Rinker, who is a three time major winner in the time of better and Jovic, and Adele. And this kid Sissy pastas going to be one of the next gen guys. And now we've got. Federal versus vibrant. And I, I said to Mitcham Bob before we started today, something always happens now to cheat us, one more Nidal Federer. And I don't want stand the man to do that this week because they would meet in the semi's of the French Jovic is in his tenth straight quarters at the French and adult, of course, is going for number anyway. It's I know that this no American man, and I know that our great American champion. Serena is out. But this is still such a great time for for tennis. And, and the run-up to Wimbledon. Will be great. And, you know, at least tell you what Mitch at least the Red Sox at the end had a slightly better weekend than Serena did. Even even though it looked like they weren't going to have one for a while. I was watching your, your comments on it over the weekend on your Twitter feed, you know, and watching the reds, I get, you know, postponed rain, then they lose then they lose think they're going to lose again. And you pointed out, you know, right now, if the season ended, of course, it's a stupid sentence, they wouldn't even been the second wildcard team. And I thought it was important. It was important for David price to get that win come out, you know, you, you can only keep putting up your stars to night after night against the Yankees, and, and get them shot down before it starts to take a toll on your karma and maybe David price salvage a little bit of the calmer. Bob, you're there. What's, what's your take? That's the whole narrative this morning from the price. Point of view, that this was something that had to be done sooner or later had not one Yankee Stadium since he had become a red sock yet at Yarra on sixes and, and they needed something like this, and he's pitched pretty well this year and he put pretty well. Obviously, it's very well in the postseason last year, he pitched pretty well this year. And this was the yes, needed an encouraging, and all that the interesting thing starts off trying, I ten and he's got the first three innings and thirty pitches, which is remarkable for anybody in this day and age. But that was important. Yeah, they had to have it to ask you a question as a Red Sox season ticket holder. And obviously, we, we both grew up to, you know, I went to Boston College, what were you thinking even at eight two last night, considered what we've seen from the Red Sox bullpen when Matt Barnes loaded, the basis against the pin stripers with nobody out. Oh, I Mike festival have understand. I'm negative thinker. I think that the definition would you ever pick? On that. I hadn't picked a pessimist is an optimist with experience. That's okay. So I always think of the worst and no question, and to me, MC no sense to be an optimist because then you're going to continually letdown in. But if but if you're a pessimist, you pleasantly surprised which one would you rather be pleasantly surprised more often, or, or devastated by the stupid foolish unwarranted optimism, just everyone understand Mitch. Is that the message you're trying to convey in your books, or I try to convey in my books for young readers? I the world is made up of the half full and Chuck deli. You guys go to mitt to this is the Chuck Daly. I'm a disciple of truck Dale, prince of doom the principal emphasis, and that's my nickname and don't forget it. I, I should've gotten a patent on that. So anyway. Mike. I'm flipping I of on flipping you know, and I see what's going on you I'm checking the game basketball back to. I'm kicking the game checking the game you know on on on the app and I'm finding out what it is, and I flip over and I see these the situation and I said, I'm not even gonna stick around and watch this because I and you know, yes. I was worried. I expect the worst out of the, the Scituate. Look, I'll tell you something right now the season for me the Dana, the absolute defining moment of the two thousand nineteen minutes baseball season has already been we've already had it. And it is the one that that completely proves that they're not going to do anything meaningful this year, and that was Michael the other night when, when Edward Newton Nunez was picked off second base. And when he was seconds, like Gary Sanchez, I said, this is the kind of thing that tells you ain't going to happen, just as in two thousand thirteen the ninth thing to told me it was going to happen was when Mike carp hit a. Pinch-hit grand slam home run in the sixteenth inning in Toronto. And I said this team's going somewhere. Well, this ain't going news before we move onto the teams that are actually playing really well in baseball and clearly okay Nunez random out of a big inning last night for, for no reason getting thrown out at second base after actually got a big match. There is a team in your division, the American League central that has been as much of a powerhouse and an unexpected powerhouse in baseball this year as anybody else including the dodgers and that team is the Minnesota Twins. Did not see that coming. I really didn't don't know. I don't know. You know. May shake out that it doesn't hold up. But right now, they're they're starting pitching. I mean who talking about the Minnesota Twins starting pitching at the beginning of the season? And now the third lowest DRA in, in the major leagues and their, you know home run hitting and, and their their their offenses. It's spectacular. I, I don't know what to make of it. I mean, you know, everyone thought if there was this division is kind of a throw away at this point. Anyhow, Cleveland was more dominant a few years ago than they are now. But everybody kind of figured that, if somebody's going to come out here it's like like you say bothered there has to be one. Somebody asked to win it, somebody we looked it up we lifted up, but who would thought that the twins would have? They had the best record in baseball now that they have their dodgers have more wins than they did three forty one teams right now. The judge is the twins and the Houston asteroids eighteen. This is the fastest ever gotten to forty. The history of the team, which includes all those years in Washington, and Walter Johnson era. They when they actually wanna World Series in nineteen twenty four and a pen in nineteen thirty three that wasn't all the Johnson. Anyway, they, they have the vaunted Minnesota Twins teams of the sixties that were good the twins at one in eighty seven to ninety one whole inch Lada with Tom Kelly. They were good. But they none of them were forty and eighteen this. Now, you mentioned that the home runs and all I just did a quick little researcher. They have seven guys currently in the lineup who have an Opie s somewhere between eight forty two and nine eighty it's nuts and Nelson Cruz. Mitch are you ready for the murderers row that they beat the rays with ninety seven wanna hear the the lineup yesterday? Garver Polanco asked to deal rose. REO krone Marlin Gonzalez sano Jonathan scope Buxton, that is the team that, that pounded, the, the rays have been. Really good team themselves this year and gut them to their fortieth win of the season with, with a rookie manager who's who's young enough to be on the team. Oh, he's barely thirty eight years old, solely Rosso. You know, I don't know. I mean it's just sometimes it just happens. And, and, you know, in baseball, it's nice to see that, that can still be the case because, you know it's an expensive sport. And it seems to be so money oriented around, you know, if you can buy a team or your stock and yet every year, there's a couple of teams that do it with either really low payrolls or really no name talent. And you know it's a very long season. So will they be there at the end? I don't know. Could they go on an equivalent losing streak? You know, parallel version to what they've been doing winning wise, may, so I you know, they do benefit from having the play the other teams in their division, a lot like Choi, and that division, they're eleven and a half games up already on on the third. Seventeen out in their own division. We were playing playing. But now they're Michael, you did have an inkling white, you had a little. It's so interesting because Buck Showalter smart baseball guys I've ever known. And we're just talking last winter, and they, they signed Nelson Cruz and Jonathan scope any and he said to me, he said this, exactly he said, pay attention to the twins. They're serious this year and making those move showed him, how serious they are. And, you know, I mean, they don't have the smallest payroll league one hundred twenty one million. They're like, in the middle of the pack, but it's listen Mitch you know, this, it's a it's a great sports town. It's a great baseball town and Bobby. It's one of my favorite ballparks, one of my favorite of the new charter fields, one of my favorite parts. Oh my God. It's great. And you could walk to it, and no, it's, it's, it's a good story. Mitch the only question is, and you know this from the past whether if they end up playing the Yankees in the playoffs the of always been there boogeyman, and they've just. Anybody come out of the clubhouse, maybe this team is different. Well, there different a lot of other levels. Meanwhile as you mentioned the dodgers. Oh my God. And the dodgers are just exceptional and you know the they just put on a clinic, basically against Philadelphia over the weekend and, you know, Philadelphia's supposed to be a hot team. And, and Cody Bellinger, is just reading something here. That's a so far. And of course, we're only in June. He's having the best season of any vessel. -fensive season of any Los Angeles dodger ever ever. And Mitch Mitch remember something. Okay. And again, you guys have heard me talk about this. I've been writing about this, since the spring, the dodgers to me the most compelling narrative all because they are trying to do something that no team has done in nearly a hundred years in baseball, which is lose two consecutive World Series. And then come back and win one the next year the last team to do that was in the nineteen twenties. Okay. So that's one thing. And. Always yankees. Yeah. In Twenty-three aunties. Okay. And here's the thing you look at Bellinger, and the rookie year he had he had he had a bad year by any standard of that, you would apply to this kid last year and in the World Series Bobby it kinda got lost because of the eighteen inning game. He was one for sixteen in the World Series. One more sixteen with no home runs and no RBI. And I believe he talked about Draymond green pride. I think he has carried a bit of a chip of his shoulder on his shoulder into this year. It's been spectacular what he's done. So there's a story in today's LA times that is remarkable and the premises that could right now he's having the greatest season offensively of any dodger in his in history of the team, which includes people such as Mike Piazza Duke, Snider, Steve Garvey at cetera. We're going far back Zach retail of Famer just I won't go to with the numbers because but, but this one is astonishing. We. Because this is legitimate stat not like war, which is an illegitimate stats. Not a stat Opie. Plus simply means, where do you rank a euro PS in terms of the average of the league? If you have an opium over hundred with a hundred benchmark of an SE average guy having obviously, if yours is one ten minute you ten percent better than league average his right now to sixteen. To sixteen Maecha Bob, you know, that they were going good when I saw the other night Will Smith at a walk off home run. I said, man, you are when when you can just plug in an actor and hit a walk off home run. Wait. It's not at the same. And by the way, and I'm going to mention this, my parting shot which were about to get to fourth round draft pick. So where was where was everybody, you know, four hundred and I'm gonna talk about the baseball draft picks and. That's a good segue into why don't we get to our part? And Mike Luca wanted to lead us off. As I said earlier, I don't think the raptors are going to beat the warriors. Now, I think they might have gotten them if they could have one game to which they nearly did at the end. I just don't think so now and co I may leave when it's over and this season might turn out to be their version of basketball Camelot, but whether they find a way to win. What is now a five game series? It doesn't diminish the beauty and the power of this sports moment in Toronto and in Canada. The raptors might not get the parade the cubs guy when they finally wanted two thousand sixteen or approach, what Boston's moment, felt like in two thousand four when the Red Sox, and it's eighty six years of waiting. But if you want to understand why we care about sports the way we do. Just remember the images, we've gotten out of Toronto, both inside and outside their arena, over the last couple of months, even in a hockey place and a hockey country in the end, the real and enduring beauty of sports isn't only measured. Encamping ship trophies and championship rings at its best sports makes teams and fans feel as if they're in something together, and that is exactly what has happened to the we the north people. And it has been something fun to see. Guys we had an old school moment in baseball yesterday. I love it. National's max sherzer had a four to one lead in a man on second and two away in the eighth inning against the reds. Now he had fanned fourteen men, but he had one this pitch count up one hundred seventeen which wouldn't have met a damn thing, even twenty years ago. But in today's game is a big deal. Hey nolan. Ryan wants to two hundred and fifty I'm not kidding. Anyway. Here comes manager day Martinez. And I guess you can say the two men had a heated exchange on the mound will guess who won. It wasn't a skipper shirts are banished his manager back to the bench. Max turned his attention to Joey Votto, no slouch e zip zip zip steer three looking, it was sure K number fifteen said, choisir, I knew I was strong. I still had my arm strength. I knew I wanted to stay in maxed it put up further fuss as Sean Doolittle closed out the game. But as point had been made love. Football roster is twice the size of a baseball roster football starts twenty two guys eleven offense Lebanon defense while baseball starts nine ten if you count the age. So it follows that a single player can mean a bigger deal in baseball, right? Since there are fewer of them then how is it? That today is major league baseball annual draft and you barely heard a thing about it. No Mel kiper types. No mock draft six point oh, no three hour pre-game show. It's held on a Monday for Pete's sakes. Yes, the first round will be televised on the V network where it belongs. And the final two days, you'll have to find on some streaming service no fans with faces painted booing their teams pick no prepackaged up close and personal TV packages on the twenty eighth guy selected, and you know what? It's still a draft just like the NFL version, one of these kids might be his generations, Justin ver-, Lander der. Jeeter. But, you know, one will find that out when it happens not the night, his name is called if only football could be shrunk back to this, a weight, that would mean less money for a lot of people who've turned it into a cottage industry, how silly of me never mind on monuments, that'll wrap things up for today's version of these sports reporters podcast, we do this every Monday and Thursday as we mentioned, and you can find it wherever you find popular sports casts, or podcast. I should say on Spotify Stitcher, I tuned to cetera. 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The Golden State Killer Case: Theory vs Fact

Unmasking a Killer

57:26 min | 1 year ago

The Golden State Killer Case: Theory vs Fact

"Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Xeni offers thousands of affordable. Eyewear styles starting at just six ninety five. No ridiculous markups. No hassles. Just quality affordable. I wear delivered right to you visits. Any today at Xeni dot com slash H. L N Joseph Di Angelo is facing thirteen homicide charges and thirteen charges of kidnap with intent to rob in connection with the Golden State killer crime spree while law enforcement believes him to be responsible for the many rapes attributed the east area rapist spree do the statute of limitations. They cannot file rape charges at the time of this recording. Joseph Di Angelo has not yet entered a plea and his awaiting trial. Why we lock our doors at night. Packed all over California community was taken hostage. Brutal homicides prolific serial killers in the history of this state. If not in this nation. The national campaign to help identify the Golden State healer. We're here with our partner in all things. Golden State killer. Todd linzie welcome back. Todd. Todd, thanks for having me. So we wanted to take this time to do a bit of an overview, right? Our first five a TV episodes covered a lot of ground and with law enforcement identifying Joseph James, the Angelo as their suspect in the Golden State killer crime spree. We were able to see where we got it. Right. And where we got gotta wrong. So let's go through some of those things the fact that the Golden State killer suspect was a police officer never suspected that. Yeah. I again, we've talked about this people say that a lot especially on like, message boards and social media about unsolved cases. There's no way somebody could get away with that for so long if they weren't a cop. And then it never turns out to be a hub. When it solves. So. Yeah, I wasn't thinking that way. I was definitely thinking military background. Yep. Just of GMC Angelo has but not a police officer during the crimes I I didn't see that one coming. I have to be honest while we were studying the east area rapist crime spree. I didn't think the man had a fulltime job anywhere. You know, there's so much prowling so much burglary so much everything. So even when people say, oh, he's in the military. I was like I don't see how he has the time once again asleep. When's he going to sleep wins going to eat? I mean, he's literally seemed like he'd have to be awake around the clock. And it turns out the probably was somebody came up with the idea that he maybe he was, you know, not necessarily wealthy, but had, you know, access to money so he didn't have to work, and he had all this time in now, we know that he had a full time job. So I guess he never slept. He never slept. And we also talked about, you know, maybe being a day worker and construction or something. So it's easy to pick up a shift here shift there and everybody would thinking that. No. Employer was like counting on him from day to day. But you know, with just James Angela being identified we do know that he was working fulltime job forty hours a week per chief wallet never was tired never call in. So yet how how just Jamesy Angelo would have done that and the east area rapist crime spree. I still can't wrap my head around. We'll talk into the neighbors. I think we've kind of understand that that he didn't sleep a lot and he'd be up at two in the morning and his backyard, but the Jamie parson attack was at six in the mornings, the, you know, there's been a tax that were at seven PM, you know, with victim ten and then at six AM with victim five, and so he's spending an awful lot of time. I may look maybe, you know, maybe there's different shifts. Right. There's a crime shift, and maybe that only lasted five hours or six hours, and sometimes he did it from six PM the midnight, and maybe sometimes from two AM to eight. AM who knows? But it must have taken some serious coordination pull that off. I agree. And we know take the Jane Carson attack, for example, he waited for the husband to leave. So he must have watched the house previously to know what time the husband leaves? So then when he decides, okay? This is the morning, I'm going to attack. He gets up really early and then waits for the husband Aleve and breaks in. But you're right. I mean, he had to do the surveillance. He had to do the prowling and that took a lot of time. And he obviously didn't sleep a lot. Yeah. But even in that case if Joseph James Angelo is the east area rapist, he's leaving that victim number five house Jane's. And I mean, he can't make it home or to shift 'til probably eight AM, right? He's clearly going straight to work. I would think it's or as an off day, and he's going home. So you'd be his wife is late sleeper or leaves early for her job or studies. Who knows? Yeah. Again, lots of coordination. Yeah. Still very hard the wrap your head around. And we know that they were sleeping in separate bedrooms. At least for some of the marriage just de ngelo is his wife at the time. Right. And so in Auburn. Yeah. In auburn. So he must have been, you know, saying goodnight going to his bedroom. And then immediately out the window to spend most of the night, prowling and attacking. It's it's unbelievable that he had the time and energy to do that. But clearly that's what he did. It'll be interesting if that comes up and trial, if I'm a defense attorney, I go it's not possible. Right. Right. All right, moving on to the next bit of evidence that we spend a lot of time talking about on particularly kind of pulse. Holes was, you know, leading the charge on this one, which is the quote, unquote, homework evidence. It's the kind of map-drawing of kind of a development in some scribbling on the back. That was found not at at an east area scrimping, but near one where they believe the doghouse kind of traced the east area rapist, and then all of a sudden the trace stops assuming that maybe Syria has got into a car or some kind of vehicle and was able to leave that area near that spot. This evidence was found exactly along the old road railroad tracks that ran behind the neighborhood where he had a couple different attacks been. Yeah. The theory was that he had dropped that somehow, and they spent a lot of time on that. And we still don't know if that was really his or not now. Yeah. We don't know that. Right. I mean, there's been no evidence. I, you know, I know Paul holes for awhile while looking at it thought this must mean he's in construction and not just blue collar. But like, why caller maybe architect or developer something like that? And obviously now with just James the Angela being identified by law enforcement. He does not have that background that matches. What was? Originally thought that might be a real neighborhood that he drew distri member. And we just can't match it could not be his or cannot be his what's your guest hot. I think I still think it's his I mean, there's certain things about it. The word punishment written is hard as you possibly can. Just sounds like him even the the elementary school paper that was on one of the notes where he wrote about do you? Remember the subject to that custody. Was custard? That's right. But then there was another paper that he wrote that was included in that notebook about how much he hated his teacher. Do you remember reading that one? And that sounds like him. It sounds like somebody who's angry from a young age. So yeah, I still I if I had to choose I I still say that it was probably his I mean, they found it right away. They founded on the escape route that he took like, you mentioned the bloodhounds followed his scent. So. Yeah. And this the whole neighborhood drawing is so suspicious because we know that he picked neighborhoods instead of victims. He would find a neighborhood that he liked and then find victims in that neighborhood. So it sounds like him. But hopefully, we'll they'll figure it out at some point. Any could also be the Golden State killer was known to try and mislead right? He would maybe steal something from one place and leave it at another race. So it could be his planted. I it could have been that. He threw there for a purpose him being the east area rapist. So yeah, I don't know if we'll ever know it just seems like if that was some of these notebook they might have seen, you know, it was in news articles. It's been in LA magazine. It's it was on our show. It just seems like somebody would have recognized that and said, hey, that was my notebook that went missing. And so maybe that will happen. It just seems like they could compare the handwriting. Samples from diangelo in the know, Pat and NC, but they probably have just bigger fresh fish to fry right now. I'm sure that. Yeah. Figuring out if that's his is so far down the list. Well, we do know that they took writing samples from the house with the purpose of trying to match a handwriting. So maybe we'll have you can match the handwriting to that notebook. Then you can you can say he's in the neighborhood the night of the attack so EFI like we'll find that out at trial. Something they'll share before that. Now some folks thought he might work in the medical field. Yeah. That was a big thing. Russ oasis that was one of his theories, and in it was it had a lot of. You know facts to back it up. It seemed like a lot of the victims were in the medical field. And they thought maybe he was seeing these victims at a hospital or somewhere and then following them home. But we know now that wasn't true. Just so happened that to a certain percentage of the houses that he attacked had people who worked in the medical industry was an air Koch craft who had set at the beginning. While look at that time, the medical industry, California was booming. So the fact that the Syria rapists, attacked kind of white middle-class homes would just by definition main that there is a good percentage of people work in a medical field, nurses, and doctors living there, so. Yeah, that was coincidence. But you know, it just a good example of you gotta look at all these things, you know, if you have you don't have a suspect you gotta try every avenue of investigation to see what you can find. So. And they definitely did that they're there. Were a lot of theories before the arrest and some of those theories and a couple of composite sketches came from the Katie and Brian majori double homicide, which Golden State killer. Suspect Joseph James, the Angela has been charged with committing what we got. Right. 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So maybe he just didn't see it. And you know, we're talking a matter of seconds. But you'd also had a conversation with Ken Clarke, obviously before they arrest, but where he it said that he went through some of those old files, and that he believes that maybe crawl remembers differently because there was another composite as part of that file. Oh, yeah. I mean, it was forty years. So he had a hard time. Remembering exactly what the person looked like when we interviewed him. He definitely saw the east area rapist. I think there's no doubt about that. He heard the gunshots. He heard the guy climbed the fence and the guy ran down right in front of his house and stopped. When he saw Carl they locked eyes for a second. And then he ran back the other way. So I I always felt he definitely saw the guy. But I mean, I think it kind of goes to we now know that I witnesses sometimes your memory can play tricks on you. And so they don't remember it exactly how it happened. Right. But not knowing what we know about the person that law enforcement believed to have been there that night to have been the shooter and knowing that he had a mustache at that time. Are we convinced that call knows actually saw the east area rapist? I mean, could it be that some other kid just was like, oh man is wrong. Play wrong time, I'm running like if you were. East area rapist, and you were just seen by majorities. He the east area rapist had no qualms about killing them about walking out after Katie and shooting her all of a sudden you come around, and there's this seventeen year old stems I think he was even younger than that. I think it was Tina I think seventeen year olds standing there looking at you. And you lock is why not shoot him. Why are you running away from this man, if he seeing you my guess is that they were out on the street? The majorities were murdered in a backyard. So it offered some privacy and lack of eye-witnesses. Although there was a young man who watched the entire murder from the upstairs bedroom window. Yeah. So I think maybe, you know, shooting as two people jumped the fence he's running down the street to shoot another guy on the street. I just think maybe he decided that's not a great idea. I mean, that's the that's the only thing I can think of do you think the Carl Knowles composite might hurt the prosecution's case with the majority's well. It's a hard question to answer. I mean, I guess that's a possibility. Again, I'd go back to we now know that I witness testimony can be flawed, and you know, asking somebody to remember what they saw over forty years ago. It's it's a tough thing anybody. Sure, I mean, there's a reason that a lot of police officers say, you know, the eyewitness is the last thing you want to rely on the Salva case, right? You know? And when you look at these composites over the years you understand why? So few of them hit the Mark. But from the majority case, we got the one composite with a mustache. Yes. So I think somebody did see him and got a good look at him. And remembered it, well, I think we can give curl the benefit of doubt. Just you know, it's dark. He's not expecting to have to identify murder. You know this guy runs over. So it just probably happened so fast. And he I'm sure he did the best he could he possibly just you know, remembered it or didn't get a good look at him. So he described what he saw and it just happened to not have the mustache and not really resemble the Angelo, very well. But then there's another composite where somebody saw the suspect running down the street a block or two away from the murder and that has a definite resemblance to Dangelo scissor. Speaking about composites, I think it's. Print. Also, bring up a Rodney Miller's composite we told his story in our episode two, and he came very close to the east area rapist, also, no mustache, also mustache. And now he says that he again, he's chasing him. So he's looking at the back of him. But then he decides to cut them off the man who was in his yard was jumping fences. He went out through two houses and onto the sidewalk and thought that he would come out that way. And sure enough he did. So he he cut him off. And the suspect was right under a streetlight. You know, he was running. But he's still he said I got a good look at him when he went under the street light. And. Yeah, there still no mustache, you know, maybe that blond moustache just kind of blended in. I don't know again it goes back to urine a really tense situation. I mean, Rodney Rodney's shot seconds later. So I'm sure they didn't take a composite until. After he underwent the operation. I know he lost a a bunch of his intestines. He almost died. He was lucky to live. So maybe just the traumatic experience and he had a hard time. Remembering what the guy looked like some other thought any en I'm I'm female. But like could someone shave a moustache grow back over the course of a couple of days, like if let's say, you know, Dangelo being identified by law enforcement as east area rapist, if he's on a shift, and he knows you know, there's like three days he won't have to go to work. Right. Can you three days isn't long enough? No, okay. You may be being talian and be able to speak to a lot of my relatives who are able to grow a moustache quickly. They still couldn't do it in three days. They're good stubble. Yeah. Double, but I mean, I feel like you need lead have about what I like now three even after two or three weeks. It's still it's like, oh, you're growing a mustache. Right. I think three weeks I could have a moustache and two weeks could almost have a moustache. And but I think that's the shortest time. Because I Mary joke. I can never have a moustache. So. Double comes in our so am I shadow this going you'll have a full beard by tomorrow morning. Okay. So so yeah, I mean again with chief willing describing Jody Angelo in Auburn during the time of these area, rapists as having had a mustache at all times. Really as far as he can remember he'd never remembers him without a moustache. I do think that then that comes into play with the east area rapist composites. And I mean, if I'm a defense attorney, I'm looking at that definitely insurer and that might help in the cases where there's no DNA evidence. I don't know how that helps when there is the NFC evidence off. Yes, that's a whole other story. Okay. So I think another thing we talked about a lot is why did he stop in northern California? And obviously, nobody really knew there were a lot of theories some of it was because he was spooked by the aboard a danville attack where he was almost you know, got into a confrontation with one of the victims. But I do think that most people, including the profile are said, it must have been a major life event. And sure enough there was one he got fired by and it wasn't just you know. Again, just James Angelo being the suspected east area rapist here. It was just that. He was fired is that like us fired from being law enforcement officer his entire life up until that point was military and law enforcement, and there's an authority that came with that Anna and built in respect that the community gave you at that time the seventies being in law enforcement. So it wasn't just he lost a job. It's like he lost an identity. That's a really good point. And I think the fact that he lost that built in respect probably really was a huge blow to his ego. And yeah, I shouldn't say just fired he was arrested for shoplifting. And I'm sure that was very traumatic. We know he fought like hell to get out of there from what I read one of the guys working in the store was a high school wrestler. Who really gave him man's to hold him down. And we know Dangelo was very strong. Even today ended up tying him to a chair. And then he started crying from what I've read. So you could tell he was that probably really freaked him out. He probably thought at that time that they were gonna dentist him as the east area rapist. I'm sure he was really paranoid about that fact, so yeah, couple that with the fact that he was almost caught in the danville attack. I mean, the guy that he came up against in his house was much bigger than him. So I think those two things could be a factor. But it didn't seem like I mean, you have anybody danville attack and again, east area rapist, if he is Joseph James Angela Dangelo just goes in buys, not by steals. You know, a hammer and dog repel again. It was like, okay, I'm going to get ready for my next attacking? I wonder if that arrests had not taken place would the east area rapist have stopped. You know what I mean? Like you being a northern California northern California? Yeah. That's a good question. And will let's talk about the hammer for a second. I mean. I mean, I think that shows premeditation he wants to kill a victim potentially. But we also know that often he was so good at breaking in where he'd put a little something against the glass. And then with a tap on it. It would shatter little hole that he could go in like, you know, open up. So, you know, yes, obviously, you know, we've all seen enough serial killer movies to go. With like, a hammer means is gonna bash someone's head in. And I'm bludgeoning was besides the victims at a shot bludgeoning was his choice of of how to murder somebody. So I think the fact that he stole the hammer. He really didn't want that hammer to be traced back to him by. And if you're just using it to break into a house. I mean, I don't think you have to be as careful I think he was really like if I but the hammer might have been second. It's really that dog repellent will the we we know he must have been using dog repellent. Now, I mean that makes sense. So again, he's worried that if he leaves the hammer or the dog. Repellent behind it can be traced to him. And I think that was his reasoning to steal it. Although talking to you, we know there were no cameras in that store in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight seventy nine if you pay cash there'd be no link to him whatsoever. As long as he's not walking around with the receipt in his pocket. And I'm also why like it was pretty ballsy in a sense to go to citrus heights, which was like, you know, there were four east area rapist attacks in citrus heights. I think right. So it's like, you know, you're going back to the scene at a crime. Now, I do think, you know, obviously, Sacramento sheriff's deputies came to the shoplifting thing and arrested him and gave him a citation, and he never went down to the jail as far as we know because it was you know, minor quote, unquote offense, and sometimes people go why didn't Sacramento sheriff's department put it together? Then I do think it's it's it's worth noting though that this is July seventy nine and again, it's a year and a half because it's really the majority's happened Feb. Brewery, seventy eight right. So that's that's literally like eighteen months later really since his last kind of. Plus they weren't killed with the hammer. They were shot. Right. So why would you ever put that together? He hasn't bludgeoned anybody. So, but it's also this isn't at the at the height of the east area, rape tear. It's been eighteen months since the last attack, and he has moved east of Sacramento, and then he's moved south of Sacramento. So yeah, I agree with you. They don't because we even talk to Larry Crompton, right? And I feel like everybody thought that these dreamers booth. Yeah. Crompton because he was stealing weird things. Like, you know, a lamp and stuff that you would want a set of dishes and stuff that you would want to set up a new house, which is completely logical. And again, I think that's where Dangelo tried to throw off investigators by taking stuff like that. But I still think the fact that he stole this hammer show that he was thinking about both. Bludgeoning of victim. And clearly if you happily that hammer behind you don't want linked to you. So I think that he had been thinking about that for a while. And so when he loses he when he gets arrested and loses his job. I think he has he feels like he has nothing left to lose. And that's why when he goes into southern California he starts killing his victims. I think that makes sense. Because clearly, why would you? Again. I mean, we know he stole things for most of his life. We we've seen that. So he felt like he could probably get away with it. So he he knows that there would be no link to him within with that hammer if he has to leave it behind it a crime scene. Okay. Crazy question. I've not assuming anybody here has, but I've never shoplifted. So I don't know what this is like, but I'm assuming that if someone's like, hey, sir. I think you're taking those items your shoplifting. Couldn't he have gone Oma bad. Let me pay for it. Or would they have still been like, no, sir? You know, we're going to call the cops or shop by staying as somebody who spent a lot of years working in a grocery store. I can tell you that we you know, that happened often and people would just give the stuff back and just let them go. You know? I mean, you see someone trying to walk out with a candy bar bottle of soda. It was usually and it was usually teens. You know, I mean, sometimes it was all there, folks. But to me, it says, he must've gotten really belligerent or something must have really happened in that moment of made. Run for the door. Yeah. And so then they don't have a choice. But yeah, I mean the moment at escalates and your wrestling a guy on the floor calling the cops right right in the story goes at while the wrestling, so he's kind of face down on the ground. He's got these two guys on top of him. He's taking the that. He took the dog repellent out of his pants and just stuck it on shelf right next to herself yet. So he's trying to give it to the evidence while they're fighting. So, but I mean to me that says he must have panicked in a moment. It feels like if you're cool calm and collected. At that point, you you could get out of that of it you go. I'm sorry. I didn't realize that I had had those in my pocket. So it's hard to believe. But I feel store security is not flus money. He could've flashed his badge, and maybe got out of it. I mean, he, but he panicked. I mean, he clearly did because that's the last thing you want is a fight between you and two clerks, and they're calling the cops, and they have to tell you. I mean, that's you could've talked your way out of that much better. And then it would have been forgotten. About. Another theory frequently debated when it came to the case of the Golden State killer was whether he was dead or alive. We'll revisit our initial beliefs and the evidence that led us to those early conclusions. And there are some questions that we have for suspect Joseph James, liangelo if we ever get the opportunity to speak directly with him. We'll share those two if you love murder mysteries. Like I do. You're probably a big fan of Michael Conley? You know him as the best selling author behind the Harry, Bosch and Rene Ballard novels. I've been reading stuff for years, and I was very excited to hear that he's returned to his roots as a journalist with murder book. 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Go get it clean make an ADA Varney joins Ben mcelwain tissue. Awe. Inspiring stories and I shared human experience. You gotta say this sentence with Eva do Vernay hosted by Ben Michaelides. Saturday's beginning at eight PM on Turner, classic movies. We talked a lot in our show about what or not he was dead or alive. Biagio? Wouldn't you think I always thought he was alive as evidenced by the fact that at least once a week, I would wake up and think he was in our house. Not saying that to be funny. I it was it was legitimately. It was legitimately frightening. The more we got into the case to know that he was out there. And I was telling somebody the other day, you know, me and joke live in a one story house. You know, right in the corner on the corner bedroom phase at the front yard. I mean, it was mashed up with a lot of things. So I I was convinced he was alive to the point where I was I figured that would meet him. If there was a canal behind your house. It would have been perfect park greenbelt tie. I always thought he was live. Yeah. You'd have to go on the assumption that he's alive until proven dead. So always just assume that he must still be living. And we thought he was younger. So he would only been in his early sixties. So yeah, I definitely thought he was alive and nearing retirement age. Yeah. I mean, I definitely thought he was alive. I think sometimes I told myself he's probably dead just freak out or panic. But yeah, there's something, you know. That once there was an arrest made in this case. And I think this is what I'm going. You know, Chris victim ten it just became a lot more real. And I was actually more frightened than night after the press conference when you and I were in Sacramento, and I was alone in my hotel room. I had the doors. Locked and I don't know it was just it just, you know, we're storytellers. And so I was able to compartmentalize most of it while we're going through this. You know, I be like, okay. This is a story we're telling and actually I think Todd you made me feel better because early on we talked about, you know, what if this person is coming to get us because we're telling the story, and you said, well that would be a big mistake on his part at which point that'll help him get caught. So okay. I was like no, I don't I don't want him to come after me. You know, if he sticks his head above water, we pretty much got him. So if you tried anything like that, I think he realized he's his best chance was just to stay put and not say anything not. Yeah. Exactly hidden in plain sight, I well that brings us to some people law enforcement thought that he was hiding in plain sight, and then in a lot of people also thought, maybe he was in jail in another state that just you know, maybe didn't do DNA collection on felons yet. There was a mob Bush in jail. Right. And I think that's a safe assumption. I think when they track people down after maybe the murders. Ten twenty years old a lot of times, they find that. They're in prison. They just solved a case by DNA from a murder that occurred in the eighties, and they found the guy had been executed in Texas in two thousand one. And so, you know, I think that's understandable assumption again, I think the Angelo is not the norm. And those kind of guys are kind of the scariest right guy who's a lifelong criminal. You're going to catch up to him. At some point or her by a guy who's really kept off law enforcement's radar for all his life except for one little shop for lifting tanks, shoplift. Yeah. I mean, so that that guy scarier right because he's much harder to find. Yeah. Which brings me to the following kinda last one, which is a theory of why he stopped or did he stop? And I think even speaking with profiler, I believe was Mary Ellen O tool on on our podcast actually was like, you know, I think he might be dead. Because I don't know how you are. This prolific looking at Golden State killers crime story specially when you look at original night stalker, and those murders that you're like, how'd you how'd you stop? And we know the three I used to say these guys can't stop they'll keep going into their killed or cod. And I think they've amended that you know, in the last fifteen twenty years BT k kinda changed yet. Yeah. Once once he was identified it was like, okay, they can't stop. And I think, you know, for me, it always came down to nothing identifies the ransack over the east area rapist and original night stalker. More than the sense of self preservation. It was always kind of the. The guiding light for this Golden State killer. I mean to the point where in the east area rapist crime spree. He had someone tied up ready to perform the sexual assault. And it was like something doesn't seem right and walk away. When have you ever heard of that that is unheard of? It's again, one of the many things that made this case so unusual and you're right. Every aspect of his MO is informed by his need to preserve his identity to to not be identified. So that really informs everything that he does all his actions and urge he had more so than sexual or terrorizing. Our anything else was not get caught. And clearly it's an overwhelming urge because we just talked about how much time he spends, you know, stocking and prowling so he's just he's a different type of serial killer. I've never seen one that would walk away from that. It's highly unusual and. I'd like to point out, you know, there was an attack in eighty seven that Larry crop and talked about in his book. If you haven't read it's called sudden tear, it's a fantastic book, and Larry Crompton was contra Costa county investigator on the case during the east area rapist crimes he worked the case. And then in retirement, he researched it and investigated for years and years, and he's the main reason why I became interested in the case because he was the first person I spoke to after reading about the case, he mentions an attack, and I think it's pronounced rodeo. It's a small town in northern California felt rodeo. But I think it's pronounced rodale. It's actually were green days from. And there was an attack of a woman in her home in eighty seven were the suspect got in the window, and she was bludgeoned in her bed with a piece of firewood. You know, what is that sound like she actually lived? She wasn't sexually assaulted. And so I think that's why there was probably no DNA evidence. But that they never concretely connected that to the rest of the series. But Crompton says, you know, we were always suspicious that could be him. And now that we know that he was living in the second area in citrus heights. It's not too far away. So maybe that was his last one in for whatever reason, maybe he was scared out of the house. I mean, we'll never know. But there's a possibility that that was actually his last attack. But there's really no evidence. Besides the MO it just sounds like him. But there's nothing else to go on so in there could be other crimes that we haven't connected. It to him yet. Look, you know, what are just James Dangelo will ever talk. You know, he hasn't even entered a plea yet. He's just awaiting trial at this point. I do think that if you know is proven that he is in fact, a Golden State killer, and he owns it. And he finally speaks to it. The wealth of information profiler could get from him. I mean, it would I believe it would rewrite. Profiling science would definitely. Yeah. Even if he is an outlier, you know, now, all of a sudden, we have proof that these outliers exist, and so you have to look for them. So yeah, exactly they I think they would he would offer a wealth of information and investigative genetic genealogy has now really almost found more of him. Because even the nor Cal rapist who was caught in Sacramento now granted he as far as I know never went onto murdering. But there were several several rapes anything the last one was like eighteen or nineteen years ago. And so he he also, quote, unquote quit. You know? So I think the side DEA that these serial, rapists, or serial murderers, murderers can just stop and keep their urges in. Check is I think, you know, somewhat of a new thought, I guess a new thought in the last maybe decade or so. Right. You pointed out correctly really since BT K. So that was two thousand I believe when he was arrested. So yeah, last, you know, nineteen years or so I think they've really adjusted their thoughts on that. And obviously these guys can stop if they feel it's necessary for their survival. So, you know, the you mentioned the north our APIs. So I went to snow misstate from nine hundred ninety four which is in rohnert park and heat one of his first victims was in rohnert park. I think in ninety two or three while I was there, and I didn't even realize that I've read that many years later. Yeah. Well, at that point, he's probably just a rapist, right? Like if one of his first attacks, they haven't coin might I haven't figured out a whole exact DNA wouldn't have connected them yet. Right. Obviously at that point. And that was a very safe town. So, you know, you never know. Where these people can attack, and it's a lows a little scared as a little close to home when I read that was years later, but I was like oh, man. Well, speaking of years, you know, it has been quite a journey for you and us on this project for you over ten years for us coming up on four years in this journey in this process. What's what are you going to take away from all this? Well, that's a good question. It definitely have a sense of accomplishment. Just, you know, learning about this case and doing what we can do which is publicize it, and and get his get all the facts out for the public and hoping that had a little bit of affect on the eventual solving of the case. You'd like to see we'll, you know, we lit a fire under law enforcement. Did that really wasn't the case because we know there were several detectives investigators who were really they were in this for lifetime. They were in there. And I you know, I kind of describe it as we were the cheerleaders. The football game was going to happen. No matter what. But we're on the sidelines cheering, and, you know, getting the audience involved in the stadium excited, and you know, and it just gives them that extra little like, you know, when they have a suspect that comes back, you know, cleared by DNA, and you're like, oh this again, you know, I think maybe a standing on the sidelines going you can. We're very hopeful that maybe somebody would see the show call in now, not realizing the info they had would be important to solving this case. And so it it didn't turn out that way. But I think cases like this that are unsolved and have been solved for decades. I think that can be a very useful tool, and you should attack a case like this from all sides, and that's what law enforcement did. And that's what we did. We did our part what we could do and somebody hit a home run guy named Paul holes. Swinging ahead. Finally after so many years, and you know, again, we've discussed this, but you know, guys like, Larry pool and Larry Montgomery and Erica hovercraft down in Orange County worked this case for years and years and worked really hard and tried all different angles to try to identify this guy. And then of course, he have Shelby and Carol daily and Ken Clarke up in Sacramento among others who worked the K never forgot the case. Even after retirement, Ken Clarke is not retired. And he's worked the case for twenty years and has gone down of I Celje. I'm he tried all different angles and James coming working at James Cummings who's who's young, but was really gung ho and positive about solving this case from the very first day, I met him. And so I was like, oh, you know, made me feel good like, okay, they got the right people in the right spots. If it's going to be solved. These guys will do it. And like the task force worked. Right. I mean, they all were communicating. They all. Their own avenue. So not everybody all over the state was pursuing the same direction, and you know, one of them works. So I never knew where it was coming from. I hope they take that example, and use it further cases, I think it can only help has you know, we have other cases that are unsolved and that date back to the seventies and eighties. So it'd be nice that they they've had so much success catching this guy that hopefully they'll use it for their cases. And I and I think they will worst day and best day on the project. You know, what we had a lot of best days. I loved our time in Exeter. I love it. When we went to sell you the first time and I loved when you and I sat down with Carol Daly and Richard Shelby at the very beginning scene. Yeah. And you know, and that was great. I can't think of really a a worst day. I I can't you know, nothing really stands out. We had tiring days. Exhausting. These. Oh, I can tell you my worst day when I got the food poisoning in wasn't that was that in Pleasanton contract cost and in contra Costa county. Oh, man. And we had a a follow up interview to do with Richard Shelby that day. And man, I wasn't just that. After that follow up interview. Everybody drove down the Fresno, Fresno to interview, Katie majorities, brother, Ken, Ken Smith. Correct. And so yeah, that was probably the worst day. How about you? Joe? What was your best? They in your worst day. I would say best day was today at the press conference hands down. It was pretty good. I mean, it was so emotional also I hadn't slept. So that's probably why it was even more emotional, but just to see Carol daily in pole holes. And I'm you know, some of the victims that we saw that day. It was just like unbelievable. And I'm with Todd. I don't I didn't really have where stays on this project. It was kind of you didn't get food poisoning food poisoning. It was a it was pretty terrific top to bottom. I think that we had a great team, you know, way people than just the three of us may this project happen that it was an amazing team. And I think for me my my best moment on this project. And I want to preface by saying it's so rare to get to do a project where you know, there's so many reasons to do it. We had so many people who wanted to tell their stories genuinely who generally wanted to see him 'cause and at the day of the press conference, they have Sacramento district attorney Anne Marie. Shubert actually, quote, our show in the press conference where they caught him. I mean, it was on one hand. Yes. It's great for the ego, and whatever. But but me, it just said, wow. We made a project that the people the people who we really wanted to make this project for they. Appreciate it. Right. He got something out of a very happy. Right. Yeah. That was pretty big. That was pretty amazing. It was kind of create and you're right. That day was amazing. Bruce Harrington yet another guy who's and I shook, and you know, it it's weird because people might think, oh, it's so, you know, it was a horrible awful crime spree and people might think, oh, why are you so happy, you know, it's a sense of relief. I think for all the victims and their families that they finally can see that they will get Justice in this case. So I was very happy for them. And and you know, the fact that they had to think outside the box and come up with new investigative technique that worked. Now as for hurricane for dozens and dozens of cases, not just cold cases. But now there are identifying unidentified bodies that have you know, been on dented for thirty forty fifty years. That's amazing. You know? So we're really seen in the mazing time that all came out of the hunt for the Golden State killer so continues to have an effect on criminal Justice. Which is pretty amazing. You know, if you think about it, can you think of another case that really had this much impact, especially in California. I can't really think of one. I mean, I mean just the way it just raised law enforcement's game across the board dig time. Yeah. I would say no, I can't. I'm only saying that because all the law enforcement officials. We've talked to can't either. Yeah. So this the impact has been immense. So and we probably won't see another case like that in our lifetime, which is good. But it it. It's going to be fantastic to see some of these really old cold cases finally solved. And I think we're just gonna see. More and more until maybe it will clear all the books at least in California, humid. I'm sure they'll be a few that they won't be able to figure it out. But just the fact that you can bring Justice to these families. I think is just an amazing feeling. So is it was a very emotional day in a very just a lot of relief. I think that's what I felt interview will stick with you, the longest several of them were pretty impactful the one we just did with victim number ten number ten that was pretty emotional. And. Yeah, that one had a big impact on me. Right. When we were shooting it, and then watching it back, you know, it still had that impact. But I I could probably point to several the interviews that were pretty impactful. I mean when we the first time we interviewed the Harrington brothers. That was that was. Yeah. You know, and I just respect those guys so much. So that was that was a big day too. So but. But yeah. Well, I'll go with Chris the as you. I mean, it's hard not to go with Chris. That was the first thing. I thought of when the question came up, I will say as far as an interview that really stuck with me in a different way. It was Larry Crompton because here was a guy who is not young. Yeah. You know and wanted more than anything to see this case solved. And and worst of all felt like he hid let people down, which of course, he hadn't. But he's like I feel I didn't solve this case. Therefore, I let people down, and it was it was so heartbreaking it. But at the same time it made you just root for him so much hope that in his lifetime. He would see Justice. Of course, I didn't really think that would happen. Right. And so it's amazing that people like Larry Crompton all the Larry's involved with the case. Larry pool area. Montgomery. It's amazing that these people are finally getting the see this. Yeah. So I think for me that that interview just always really touched me because who was a guy who who felt he led people down and just couldn't let the case go and. Like you pointed at which he didn't. And that's the kind of guy you want has a detective a guy who really is invested in each case. And you know, when he doesn't catch the suspect. He you know, he feels that he needs to work harder. You know? I don't feel like anybody feels like he anything investigators let let the victims down they worked. You know? They did everything they possibly could. But you're you're right. It's really nice to see that for Larry Crompton that he got to see this. You know, it is joke. Well, what was you know? Maybe it's because you know, it was one of our most recent ones, but Chris rock my world. I mean, I don't mean that in any kind of like rock and roll type of way, I just she had answer said, I couldn't have imagined. I couldn't have written. And I think that's why we love documentary and unscripted television is one thing surprise you. And her story and her journey just really surprised me. I think, you know, looking back on the whole thing, you know, DA Shubert. Just she instilled in me. This quiet confidence that they were gonna do it. She just had his determination. I remember being in that very first interview with her, and she said persistence is was going to solve this case. And I remember thinking right than in there. That's the last line of the show. And I don't know. There was just something really powerful about how she was leading her team. I think Paul holes hooking up with them. You know, it was just a perfect combo of of a great team working together. And you know, it's just nice to see, you know, and to meet law enforcement, and to to get to know them on a personal level. And just see that as individuals as people they are so determined to find Justice for their constituents and for the victims. And yeah, I'll never forget that moment. She's fantastic. We we thought you know, she earned our respect. I can say that. Definitely. Okay. So we asked a lot of the survivors and victims of this. But I'm going to ask you Todd. If you could talk to Joseph de ngelo, what do you have to say, what do you want? Ask them. Well, obviously I'd like to ask him. Did we find everything are there? Other crimes that. We haven't connected to you. But you know, I think a question that a lot of people would ask would be why. And I don't know if he could even answer that I guess that's the thing for me. It's hard for me to understand that behavior. And so I would want him to try to explain the origins of that, you know, where did it come from? Where did your anger originate from an and, you know, as you get older, you tend to calm down a little bit more, you know, especially for men, I think when you're young man, you know, you're getting trouble. You gotta temper that kind of thing. And has you get older you get wiser and needed a little more calmer the guy still angry. He's seventy something years old e- still seems very angry. So that's something like, you know, deep seated in him. And so I would just be curious to where that came from. And you know, why it manifested itself in these types of crimes, and again, I don't know if he could answer that. But I would be interested to find out more about his childhood and growing up to see, you know, if we could figure out, you know, was he made this way. Or was he born this way because I think we've discovered, you know, a guy like Ted Bundy seemed to have been born that way had a great upbringing where did that come from that that type of behavior come from than others? We know had horrible childhood, you know, practically tortured as kids, and you can make a survey killer that way, you know, if if that kid has certain tools, and then you're torturing him the whole time, we've seen serial killers, you know, come out of that type of childhood. So just be curious to see you know, where that type of behavior came from for him. And what are you most interested in now looking? Forward to this next phase the trial. You know, the store isn't over yet. This chapter kind of is. But like now next chapter. What are you looking forward to what are you most interested in? Well, it'd be nice to know, you know, what his actions were in the eighties. We know he was down in Whittier. But I'd like to know a lot more about what he was doing for a living, and what his movements were and what his wife knew if anything it'd be interesting to hear from her. So you know, maybe she could fill in some of those holes. Yes. So I guess maybe just a fill in the holes of the story. And there are plenty of them still. So it'd be nice to defined out about his life in southern California in the eighties. Yeah. And the trial might take a while before we would get to that. And then obviously if should Dangelo pass before, you know, the trial starts, do you think law enforcement will tell us what they know or do or do you feel like that's going to be the end of it. No, no. I think they'd come out with the info. Mean wouldn't make a difference anymore? And they've done that with other cases, where they finally identified somebody through DNA turns out he's been dead and they'll release. Well, this is why we think he was the guy behind this cold case murder his Dany matched. It was found on the victim. And they usually will come out with them, you know, and they they figure these things out sometimes decades and decades later, I was just reading about another one one of the oldest cases. Harvard student was murdered in her apartment in the sixties. And they've just did a fide the suspect. Of course, he's been dead for years. But you know, and I think that's going to happen has more states get on board with a DNA database and and testing all the inmates in testing people who have been arrested for felonies, I think we'll find we'll be bringing Justice to families who have not had it for decades. And and so that'll be. Interesting to see Todd, thanks for trusting us with this story. Thanks for being here. Every step of the way, thanks for the spirited debates. But most importantly, thanks for caring, caring for the survivors. Caring for law enforcement and carrying that we tell the story, right? Couldn't imagine a better partner to do with. And I mean that truly. Thank you so much for finally reading my one sheet. In our defense. It was like she was like a twenty she to set on my desk time, right? But you guys again, you guys were fantastic to work with. And you brought something you brought a lot of things to the table that I'd never would have. And it really wouldn't have been near as good a show a documentary and as inclusive and is informative if you guys weren't involved. It's been a great experience. I mean, we had an amazing twenty eighteen didn't we? So let's do it again. Yes. Best bosses. I ever had. Well, listen on this one man, I done it without you. Done it without you. And I know we've kind of already touched on this Todd. But I just want to say it again, you know, it was your dedication to this case for over a decade, and in your genuine compassion for the survivors and the families of the victims and your your real connections. You built with them. It's why people trusted you to tell their story to us. So I just I just can't commend you enough for being someone who's not just in it for the TV -ness of it. You were in this because you cared about the salt really day. I do, you know, either love or hate a mystery. I can't figure it out because I'm like, no, I need to know. Don't start every book at the last pagers. I. I I. Yeah. When you get like a third way through your God. I just want to go to the end now and find out. Yeah. But you can't do that with unsolved case. So we we gotta figure it out ourselves or try to help the public. You know, come forward with info that can solve something. So I mean, that's that's what we can do as producers stance. All we can do. So, but yeah, I have to know the end for everything. So and now know now, I know and so I'm good for for few months. And now there's a couple of others that I want to know the end also well, thanks again. Thanks guys Joseph James, the Angela's next scheduled court appearance is August twenty second. And if there's -nificant development at that time will definitely return with new podcast episodes for now, though, we want to thank everyone who shared their time knowledge and personal experiences regarding this historic case during this limited series run. Thank you for taking this journey with us now in addition to keeping you up to date with the Golden State killer case, we hope to return soon with new investigations into other cold cases. In the meantime, you can catch up on the Golden State killer case with the complete unmasking killer documentary series available on the man at CNN go and listen to the unmasking podcast at apple podcasts. Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts, I'm Biagio Messina. And I'm joke in San things for listening.

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Full show  Raptors win Game 1, Do Warriors need KD?, Klay/Steph, Kawhi/Pascal

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Full show Raptors win Game 1, Do Warriors need KD?, Klay/Steph, Kawhi/Pascal

"Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Friday to first things. First. I'm Jenna wall. He is the hall of Famer Chris Carter, this is Nick, right? And great show for you today. We had some basketball last night, which will carry us through the next three hours, one place to start. And it is the reason my partner year lost some money last night. You don't even know if that's true Jin will last thirty fives. Check you. Don't I'd Lanchester Driss. Jennifer, thank you. Great tic- Nick, you're looking dapper game, one of the NBA finals took place last night. Warriors raptors and Toronto's POSCO, Siaca was the star in this one, we said, co I would need someone else to step up and did spicy p lead Toronto thirty two points as the raptors one at one eighteen one oh nine Steph had thirty four points. Klay chipped in twenty one but that wasn't enough as the warriors drop game one of the final first time they've lost game one. The finals during this dynasty. In fact, here's your game. One-star pasquale. We know the team playing we played an amazing team. Champions. And we just got to be ready. We've got to be ready. We we want game one. We came out with a lot. You know, it was really aggressive on defense and trying to make it tough for the players to find open shots. But you know we know that is game one and they're gonna come out and make judgments. And we got to be ready for that. He played amazing game obviously. But you know, he got on transition transition was horrible an eye on. I let them get an rhythm in the first half. First quarter really. So I got to do a better job of taking his rhythm away, and I will. But you know he had a great game but that's how me down. Oh one but it's not the end of the world. You know, new experience fours all the way through the we've proven our resiliency and ability to win games that we need to, and kinda answer the Bill and learn from nice like light tonight. Wires don't have to use the word resilience very often. But Nick, let me start with you. How did the raptors do it? How do they win game one Plasco? Seok him. And the raptors defense were ready for NBA finals intensity in the Golden State Warriors were not the Portland trailblazers didn't do Golden State, any favors, except for the added rest Golden State, clearly thought I will go on a run. Oh, we're down at halftime. Okay. We're down in that time in game two and game three and game four than the previous series. It was no problem to raptors defense would not allow them to go on that run. The warriors defense wouldn't allow them to go on that run. Because at no point last night, did they show any interest in getting back in transition or semitransition, which Steve Kerr was just beside himself about during and after the game and then there was a star turn for PASCAL Siaka throughout the year. A lot of people were talking Dangelo Russell as the most improved. Player. And he was probably the most improved prominent player. But on this show, we talked about the kid in Toronto, PASCAL Siaka how he went from being a seven point game guide to a sixteen point game guy with a legitimate claim to be on an all defensive team. And he was spectacular last night in a game where Golden State had a very clear strategy that we're not gonna let quiet Leonard beat us, and that was one thing they were actually able to execute PASCAL Siaka, who's got a lot of young quite Leonard in his game, a lot of similarities there took advantage of the fact that after in round two. He's got six eleven Ben Simmons garden and in round threes. Got six eleven Janas garden. Now, he's got regular sized NBA player, Draymond green garden. So clean best defender in the history of the world trade, green and Pasco Siachen gave him that work, and it was critical. It was the reason to me the biggest reason the raptors one, it's why the raptors were able to score with Golden State. And you had pointed out all weekly up to Chris that Toronto. That can't lose game one. They can't give away home court immediately. They didn't give away a quarter last night. They led wire to wire in this game, essentially, and PASCAL comes the biggest race dream out makes a great point though, in the sound bite talking about the warriors in how they decided to try to win this game was they're not going. Let Kawai Leonard get all, but co I decided that I'm not going to be an unselfish player and I'm going to try to make the right play, even though he took some tough shots a typical superstar like oh he's going to get up twenty four to twenty seven shots in that game. But why did even though he played the type of minutes? You didn't he decided that, you know, I'm going to get other people involved in after a slow start, and turning the ball over creating those open looks gave the other raptors confidence, Marcus Saul. He got off in that first quarter. See, I come not only in the first quarter but in the second quarter he got into a rhythm he got. Easy looks he got out into the fast break, and there was some things in this game that I was totally surprised at in general you and I talked about it early this morning as far as Nick nurse coming into this series. He's probably the least as far as important things as far as coaching. We've just assume. Oh, Steve Kerr with all his experience, Nick nurse a journeyman coach first year in Toronto, their season's over it. It's been great taking this franchise there. But the just the he made going into game number one, I think led to the win in that was the pace and how they were going to start the game. And one of those things is that transition Draymond said afterwards we got beat in the transition game. And PASCAL said the reason I was able to play so well is because I will get back so quickly on transition who's that the biggest difference to think in this game. We'll the biggest thing in one of the keys Nick had was rebounding, they have to win the rebound in battle. And then going against Golden State, people talk about, oh, they're going to shoot threes. They're going to move the ball around. Everyone's going to set picks for Steph and for. Klay. But yes, the other thing they do besides free. Throw shooting that kills you. It's too often so rebounding or second chance points. And if you're going to offense aboard trying to get off into rebounds trying to get second chance points in the thing that I missed a Nick nurse because I said they need to slow the pace down make sure this game is slow. No. He told them from the beginning, we're going to attack we're going to run. I was like, wow. They're going to run themselves into a very quick death because we said coming in the raptors after do was slow down the life. They were playing into the warriors hand, I thought they were because early in the game they were, they were giving up offense of rebounds was Toronto Gable five in the first quarter they were trying to play the pace with Golden State, and I thought they would wear out and Golden State Repub and Golden State typically teams have tried to do this. But when they tried to outrun Golden State, they tried to out shoot them, there's a difference in out running because with Steph in with Clint they shoot the ball from. Diagnose, and from the corner awful lot. You're going to have a balanced defense. So they're out of position if they don't get an off into rebound, second chance you have the ability to go on tack. And that's what Nick nurse in this coaching staff realized in two games that they played earlier this year. They played at a faster pace. We saw Toronto slowdown, Milwaukee and Milwaukee, we thought was just a sample size of what Golden State was going to do. But man, we were totally wrong. Nick nurse was up on this, and that first half man, they pushed that pace in the second half. They got back to more of finals game more like they played Milwaukee, but that first half. First twenty four minutes Nick huge advantage in the pace of the game. And see the you mentioned Quine, not forcing the issue quite recognizing that most guys in his spot. We're going to put up twenty shots. One of the reasons he didn't and was because they didn't have to the raptors had a lead the entire game. So qui-. The warriors, I think had a smart defensive game plan against qui- and their game against quite isn't why PASCAL got off. It's not why they got out in transition. I think they will try to duplicate that they need to get better on the rotations. They can't give Mirka soul. What Steve Kerr called dare shops, those things they can guard quite that way and be better otherwise defensively, but a Pasco Ciocci doesn't make eleven consecutive field goal attempts and isn't fourteen of seventeen from the field and the game then maybe quite feels like man, I gotta take some of these. Yes, I get pressed. And so it was the raptors continually getting stops, and Siachen being so great defensively allowed qualified to a degree to ease himself into the game and just take. It's a cliche. But take what the defense gave him what the defense gave them with the warriors gave them was a one a lead in the Siachen was special in this game. How special Nick, I know you always love you hit me with this man. This guy's one on this guy's one of Siaka one of three first MBA finals game one of three. Jordan. Alan Iverson to go thirty five and five. That's how special he wasn't game. Number Wasco Ceac him thirty two points on fourteen for seventeen shooting Toronto now, has a one, oh lead into series over the Golden State Warriors ways core pool is not a bus ways core. Pool is not a taxi ways core pool is not the metro in DC writers ways core. Pool is not a slug line. What is ways carpool new app? It lets neighbors co workers and fellow commuters ride together to work and home fast drivers say Hello to that express lane and get reimbursed for gas riders getting affordable commute and help save the planet and Corp, get to know their neighbors and co workers a little bit better. And ways core pool is smart. Not only does it match you with people who are going your way. It connects you with people who you'd actually want to ride with you can commute smarter with no headaches people. If you use ways already, you know, it's built by a community to give you the best traffic pitcher. Real time all the time ways corporal functions. With the same high quality standards and efficiency down, though. The ways corP app today to catch a ride or give a ride to work, or home ride together with ways carpool. NBA finals came one plus Calcio giants touch pass to co I for the layup. Just wanted to see who's getting back in defense there. So that is. So there's an instance where Siaka them shows an element of his game that shocked me. Siachen deceit, read the read the cut made AirTouch pass when he is on fire offensively. You would think he's going to take it and go straight up with it. There's no defense for this Nick. That was after a mate. I know they were getting out and running all the time, more Siaca this time on defense with perfect timing to block j months. Shot off the back Nick, you were up on CRM throughout the season specis seasons. Specially as a defensive player I love the comparison. If Toronto had more postseason success. We could talk about him developing Kawai. Well, keep in mind, they drafted him thinking they're going to have to go through LeBron every year. So they drafted him. And the kid OG as guys that could guard LeBron playoff series. And there were people high on him last year. I mean they were high. They were smoking LeBron. Got it more from the finals. Now raptors paint in the war. Warriors one eighteen one zero nine first time the warriors have lost game, one of the finals under Steve Kerr no, Kevin Durant in this one. But boogie cousins did come off the bench gave eight minutes three points. Steph and Klay combined for fifty five points wasn't enough though as the raptors built a halftime lead. They would never relinquish. Still Klay Thompson is sure that Golden State will bounce back. Familiar with this team but does no excuse, you know still. Got to come out here and our goal is to get one and still on the table for us. So I know respond like the champions. We are. I Nick had expect them to bounce back and game to expect them to come back and win game two. If for no other reason than I've never seen them go down to own a series. We've seen them go down three one that series. They split one to one. We've seen them lose a series to Cleveland that series. They were up to we've seen them go down three two in a series of Houston that series. It was one one and that was the only other series they've played where they started on the road. The, the warriors losing two games to start an NBA finals would put them in such an familiar territory. The last three years, they were up to, oh, instead of being not down. Oh to up to I two games the NBA finals. But what do they have to do differently? A lot of it is what we saw on those islands. Chris pointed out. It's one thing to allow transition buckets of along along misstep shoots at three long, long rebound out, and all of a sudden you gotta three onto till transition buckets, after a make shows that you were. We're not ready for the intensity of the moment of the NBA finals, which is a little explicable given the fact that your teams played in nothing but in BA finals like everyone out there's played in these NBA finals for your team for the guys on the other roster. The last time any of them played an NBA finals was Danny green and quiet Leonard five seasons ago. So I expect the warriors to bounce back in game two. I expect him to have a similar game plan for quite Leonard. Now, Basco Siaka all of a sudden is going to be the second best player in the series, then that could change the math for Golden State. But I expect Golden State to at the very least, even if you don't think they're gonna win game two to come out with a better intensity on both sides of the ball. Then they showed last night, does the approach change as far as Steve Kerr does what he does with judgments having seen. What POSCO Ceac does do they guard Cohen differently? They manage to hold them in check last night. This is the thing we haven't talked about Golden State making judgments, because they've been so. Commening. But in that dominance, yes, they do make adjustments. They will be more sound on the rotations defensively. But there are certain things that they shouldn't be surprised about. Because Nick nurse apprised everyone is far as the pace of the game them getting the ball out. So I expect them, you're not gonna build throw the ball over their head, and they did that several times for easy looks or that was converted to an easy look by raptor. So I spent him to do that. But Marcus Marco Siachen spectrum to get thirty two again. But Marcus oh, and this last three games against the warriors when he was with Memphis. He averaged twenty seven nine fifty two percent from the field sixty two percent from three so he has had some success, going against the war, you, so, yes, the warriors will make some type of judgement. Do we expect Kawai to just have a normal game again him in calories? So they will be on the tack in game number two. So the biggest concern for me is not the judgment. It's not Steve Kerr. He will have them buttoned up. I don't think it was the intensity. I just think basketball is a game that is better off played on a regular basis the nine days off. We have seen series year after year. It hurts the team with delay off, you get into a rhythm, and that was that Baroness Toronto had the atmosphere was second to none. But kin, they Andrea Iggo dollar kinase substitute those minutes. What if they missing him if he's the primary defender on Kawai, I'll McKinney how many minutes he have to play is he offense of enough? What type of rotation are they going to have either? They'll make those adjustments. My thing is Andrea dollar that injury to him. What will adjustments? They have to make with those minutes if he's potentially either hurt for a long period of time or if he's limited do they bring him off the bench and have someone else start again. And it really does appear now that we have a few weeks window to look back that they used the Bitta gas Andre had. Left they used against Houston and they needed every last bit aghast against Houston thing needed his defense in game six, he hit five three pointers. He is not made a three pointer since game six against the Houston Rockets. Those shots are coming up short, which usually means your legs or not exactly where you want them to be. And if is limited or not playing see now of a sudden, you're running out of people, you're running out of people, you're running out of playmakers. Then it is that Al Fonda McKinney who three years ago this week was playing in the secondary league in Luxembourg is NBA finals starter be starting Sunday night. Right. I think you think he will be starting Sunday. I mean Iggy it didn't look good his calf. He strained it again. And let's not forget, not only the nine days all, but he missed part of game three missed all the game number four. Like he's been resting to not Bill to finish that game when he tried to explode. Because in round number two, I was bragging about on. Eagle man. He's leading the playoff in dunks. The explosives and you mentioned it, he, he, we might have got all that he had getting out of that Houston series. Is there a chance that perhaps because of what happened last night? You rush Klay back. You try to get boogie backing does a guy like Klay have to step up and be the guy now and give you more than twenty one. I don't think they're gonna roster and back I think that is one that they will during complain game too. I mean I feel like we know during it's not playing in game two. We'll see what happens in whatever happens with Iggy the I don't think you can deceive Kirkman adamant about what the process is. And by the way, Kevin Durant is also the cap is connected, if I'm not mistaken to the achilles, and he is about to be a free agent. And this is super high level intensity. You can't tell Kevin Durant go out there and fifty percent so right. I mean this is where that could lead right now. He has a significant issue injury. You can't rush him back and have it be a clear altering injury, which Apopka Killys can be. But the last name, you mentioned is the name that to me is the most noteworthy for game number two Klay Thompson. Klay Thompson, we've said before on this show. He's got the best deal in sports. He gets a max contract when he plays great. We all talk about man. If clay had his own team look at what he would be, and when he doesn't play great. We talk about other guys do clay what it's the greatest deal in sports. Like I feel like there's a part of Kevin Durant wishes. He got to be that guy. Like all the money when I'm awesome awesome. When I'm not nobody cares Klay. Wasn't bad yesterday. But he has to put his impact on the game and Toronto recognized what I'm surprised more people haven't recognized over this warriors run Klay Thompson cannot dribble. He can't. Well, I mean he can't drive without his head being down. We there was the play where he had the dunk he took seven steps because he didn't want to dribble. They started picking them up full court when he had the ball he. Used it before the show. It looked like a I don't want to be disrespectful, but it looked like a junior high team. That's not dealing with the press. Well where it's like, oh man, I got a distributor the sideline and try to throw it. Somebody Claes gotta be great when Kevin, it's not out there clay and Steph have to be twenty fifteen twenty sixteen splash brothers where they're both threat for thirty five not just step. I'm throw dream on in near also, he's got to be far more aggressive. Now they were way up on the scheme. They weren't like Portland Portland, the pick and roll to Steph. They laid off stuff's to kill him in game number one game. Number two. They allow to run out. Nick nursing this coaching staff. They were up. They were trapping step, and they were out to get in front of juryman so that he couldn't initiate that break. But clay man, you gotta be super like you talking about a max deal. You talking about last week. You were last week he was sucking your teeth because you all NBA team. Hey, man. This your time, bro. You got all these guys hurt. It's your time, and we just give clay a pass like no. Other great player. Second graders shooter, we might have seen in the history of the game, he gives it easy pass and last night. No, he was not bad. But he was not super when they needed them to be. Bulma welterweight champ, Devon Alexander will go toe to toe with challenger Ivana, rotgut all the action tomorrow eastern on f s one and the Fox Sports time now for us to go viral sponsored by TGI Fridays. Choose to meet supposed to size for only fourteen ninety nine checkout, Drake, picking a piece of lint out of Steph Curry's hair during game one last night. And he didn't stop there. Posting to the Graham, that he's listening Curry's hair lint on EBay under the username Draymond shouldn't wear Twenty-three bidding already at over ninety thousand dollars. Like that. You like that. Go go through another man's hair like that playing basketball. There's just going to go. On wall contrast to he wasn't talking trash to him. It was actually there was going to be a lot of photos taken that night. He's like you might not want this in your hair, while we're getting first finals win by the way history, folks at EBay. I think that's a fraudulent posting because dick watch the clip he very clearly does this gets drops it on the ground. And by the man, you can't just go and grab go rough through. Somebody's hold on. Did you not rough through his hair just the other day? And you appreciate the only reason now he told me he was trying to prove this stuff didn't have to pay on because that's what people in Twitter day think Nick. Right trying to grow here. Oh, that's a toupee. No. That's Knicks air. That is my next hair is he's a mandate from here white. He don't won't to. He got grow was hero. It's all true. Thank you didn't touch another person's hair without consent. You think that's I think that's the case Jenner. You got your hair all the time. I don't touch it. I Freddie, come out here and deal with that. Right. That's yup. That's find a way to bring it. Time now for AT wakeup call POSCO Siachen was the star for the raptors and their game one win leading the way for Toronto with thirty two points. How impressive was POSCO Ceac last night, only his ability on off its of in it was impressive, but Nick nurses game plan how they were going to get him out and take advantage of Draymond green. I mean Draymond green had made a proclamation couple days ago. He was the best defender in the history of the league. Whoa. How about the NBA? They dropped thirty two on. You is very impressive. In best player on the court. He was the best player on the court by a wide margin last night, had the most points of any raptor, had the most rebounds had the second most assists had the most blocked shots. And I mean to score thirty two on seventeen shots. When you're not at three point shooter, I mean, he did end up going to of three from three but he was doing it what you're seeing right here. Now that shot right there. I don't know. I've seen a make all year. A little pull up mid range hand in your face. He was good in transition. He was it. Was really nice for him clearly after being guarded by six eleven Ben Simmons, six Levin. Yon step six seven. Draymond on the front court from Portland was so bad. I thought Toronto would have an advantage of the towns that they have. All right. Tough news for the warriors. Andre Igwe dolla seemed to injure his leg towards the end of the game. Iggy stain positive saying he will be fine, Nick, how big of a deal is. This is not fine. Oh, it's an enormous deal now down three starters, 'cause I know boogies back, but he he's clearly not back. Katie's not back yet. Iggy wildly important defensively in this series. And as I've been saying, if he makes threes, you lose if he's not out there. It's a Fonzie McKinney, who's an undrafted guy who's Len in Luxembourg three years ago, who paid one hundred seventy five dollars to get a trial in the league, he's going to be a starter in the NBA finals. That's tough man dollar has a lot of respect with the referees so garden Kawai like he. It's a favorable whistle because he's a veteran. He knows how the play and he's played against awful lot McKinney. I wouldn't trust him going against Kawai. That's why believe Kawai would explode the rest of the series I moved down. Whereas may have lost the game. You can't pin this one on Steph curry, though, curry at thirty four points, five assists in the loss. Nick, what you make of Steph curry game last night. Steph started the game. Excellent. And then second quarter didn't make shots. And that's when the raptors got their real margin. He tried to bring them back in the third and fourth quarters. He was the one warrior that I feel like can look at how he played on both ends of the court of were being fair and say, you know what I did my job. Yes, he's not. He's not that type of player that he would do that. He wasn't the one getting beaten transition. He wasn't one missing open shots. So I thought Steph played well, and it speaks to how great he's played since rant spin out that thirty four point game where you like played pretty well not a great game by his Toronto made him work on the defensive in. He got switched out on some of their bigs, and they decide to go into the post, so they tried to take some of his energy away by trying to put that pressure on him. But Steph he played a good game. Scoring thirty points in a finals game. He just needs a little more help, Geno. I finally boogie cousins made his return to the court last night, play just eight minutes. Scored just three points dished out just to assists, but Nick to the warriors need more of boogie or less bookie moving forward. I think this is just Goldilocks zone. Just the right amount. Not too hot. Not too cold. Just like they use them in the exact spot, you need to use them beginning of the second beginning of the fourth those lineups, where the offense has gone to die since Durant, spin out where clay's out there by himself. It's clay and Quinn cook, and funds and Kinney, and Shaun Livingston, boogie. As a playmaker boogie as a passer, is very her. And if you can get him out there, where the raptors don't have a big that's going to draw him away from the basket, making move laterally. That we're boogie can be utilized, but see you were spot on about. He was did not look like boogie cousins did not look like he had his speed his fitness. He seemed to be winded. Now he made was excited about coming in but ninety seconds into his first rotation. He's pouring sweat, and breathing heavily. But I think this boogie can deal with it, mentally, this is exactly the way they need to use him very short bursts, at the beginning of the second and the fourth quarter when steps getting arrest deal with mentally being coming off the bench. Not starting for the first time in. Wrong. Right. I think the sample size they got in game one it gives them the -bility it'd be more comfortable as you move forward. You can't miss forty five days. Not only during the regular season but we're talking about playoff accent. Playoff intensity. He's played in now a little more than two playoff games, his whole career. I believe the eight minutes it served him well, but he just does not match up. Well he doesn't. He doesn't match up well with the soul, he doesn't match up where it was surge of Baca because they bring them out to three point line. And right now, he's not a great defender, even when he's healthy. But right now he just doesn't have that gym time. He just doesn't have that burst that quickness, and he's not as affective in the low post because he doesn't have his quickness. He was never guy who played above the room. So this is something to watch. I'm sure that the staff was happy to get him out there compared to bring him in and game, number two, down one zero and I wanted to say something as testament to boogie cousins. Eight is borderline remarkable that he got himself ready to play at all suffered the injury. He suffered at this point in the season, when you know, you're not going to be on this team next year when, you know the only chance you have of playing his if they make the NBA finals and they would have done that without you. And you know, you're not going to have any chance of coming back to thirty minutes per game to work as hard as he did to put himself in this position. For guy, there's been a lot of off not even off the court been a lot of questions about his non basketball stuff. How good of a teammate is easy distraction, his griping with the refs it showed to me, incredible sports character. All the reports out of the bay area at how diligent, he was with his rehab, just to get this little bit of an opportunity. I think a lot of guys would have suffered that injury and recognize man, even if I bust, my tail, I'm not going to be ready until July. He he, he knew that was on the board worked as hard as he did. Instead. He's ready right before. June, and he could be valuable to them in spots credit for getting himself out this not part of him that wanted to showcase where he is for teams next year that he, he can play again. And you're not going into the off season with question marks about his future, since he is going to be looking for a new home next year. Most likely moving onto Kevin Durant. Now he did not play in game one last night and despite making the trip to Toronto. Steve Kerr says katie's along shot to play in Sunday's game too. However, if he does return to the floor says the raptors will be ready. Does player say he's going to be playing. We're definitely going to have to, you know prep for him. You know he's another guy could just go at thirty points and asleep. And I mean, everybody know Lee is, and for sure we don't have to perform. See what did we learn last night about how much the warriors need, Kevin Durant? Or did we not learn anything? This is the thing in the Nick is has said it best, Kevin Durant has always been a luxury. But even if we look at Kevin Durant as a luxury, we know his one the best players in on the biggest stages. This is the things that, that we know we're not guessing Siaka men were guessing what he's going to do quite it's been a few years since he's been back into finals. We're we kind of know but we don't know man. Kevin durant. The NBA finals. We have seen in the last two years when the best player, LeBron James in the world him Steph curry, and Katie on the same court. Kevin Durant was the best player. So regardless of skiing, regardless of anything else that, right there, exist. And just a magic what it would take out a coup why. Because y was not as healthy as I thought he was going to be. He was laboring a little bit with that leg. So. Between him Siaka him Sergio Baca coming off the bench, all them would have to rotate Danny green. He wouldn't be just to guard. Steph, all would have to guard K D. So in the back of your mind when you go on the court, you have all these game plans for assignments for all these different guys. But now Kevin Durant who either leave is the hardest one to guard because you can have perfect defense. And he can still lit up on you. You don't have to go to that right now. But you can believe with Nick nurse with coaching point. We're going to run on them. They have the Kevin Durant steam already, and they know is gonna take a bunch of guys. They feel better that he is not playing. Trust me, guys won't admit it. They don't wanna play against Kevin Durant. They wanna beat this team that they beating the game number one, Nick, I knew this was coming as soon as suing the warriors didn't sweep which nobody thought they were going to the moment. The warriors were lose a game. Whether it's game one game to game three to question was going to be or the was going to be Posey. They gotta have Kevin Durant, like. This is since they hadn't lost since he went down. They, they need, Kevin Durant to be unbeatable. They don't need Kevin Durant to beat you, there's a distinction there with Kevin Durant. This team has an air of invincibility that they can overcome bad clay game. They can overcome and Andrea would Dala injury. Draymond green said before game number one those two different identities that the warriors have won when Kevin Durant walks into the Rena. He said, they know they're going, he don't care what it looks like he don't care how they start to how many sat though the team makes how bad they're playing defensively. They know they're going to win he seven. Kevin durant. Not with us. We think we can win, but we don't know how we're going to win. And I thought that was very insight. Listen, the idea that because they lost last night, which, by the way, what they became last night was the fourteenth out of the last fifteen times the road. Team has lost game one of the NBA finals. They were the Vegas underdog and they lost the game. They cut it to three one time early in the fourth quarter Toronto controlled that game, the idea that all of a sudden it, we should the pendulum should flip all the way to it. Well of Katie doesn't come back. They can't beat this team. I just don't buy go ahead. But what if you break it down a little more than that, and take the micro view would he have been able to stop POSCO Ceac last night? Could he have slowed down with Siachen could've done underneath the bucket kin concentrate on offense of in because of Kevin Durant? Kevin Durant is the most efficient great score, that we've seen he can get you a bucket to build a stop. He can those substitution patterns. There were times we're clay was the only shooter owned the court. You don't have that, like, let's give respect to who Kevin Durant. Is that's why I don't like the numbers that they run out there as far as all Golden State without Kevin Durant. Well, how many times are they playing against elite competition? People say, well, they won those last five. Games. I thought Milwaukee in Toronto. We're a lot better than Houston and the Portland trailblazers. Well, I certainly think there are a lot better than Portland and the listen. But that knife cuts both ways would Kevin have been able to help them last night. It certainly appears so would sept- career at thirty three points in the second half of game six against the rockets if during we're out there. I don't think so. I think so there is an element of that. We know and what the numbers say is they can be to without Katie. What the numbers say is, they don't have to have Katy to win the numbers actually say they're better without him. I don't believe that to be true. I think there are some noise in that more noise than signal, but they clearly can win this championship if he never plays again, they are more likely to win it, if he does play into the question is did last night show is that the warriors need him. They want to have him. I say it until he's not there anymore. He is the greatest luxury in sports history. But we know what a luxury is. I mean no necessity is Steph, Curry's sesame for this team Kevin into luxury that they would have liked to have less. Jordan bell starting at center. Jordan bills one for two plays Lebanon's Draymond green two for nine dream. I don't have to shoot nine times. Kevin durant. Iggy three seven plays almost thirty minutes dream outplays almost forty minutes. They don't play those minutes if K D is there. It's impossible for them to be a better team without Kevin Durant Yoenis Europe co doesn't come into the game. It Kevin Durant. Like there is and the other element is when the trade off, they made when they went and got Katie was they sacrificed, their death. So we can't we don't live in the, the alternative universe of win. Katie's out, they get that depth back when the Katie goes out. They lose what they lost to go get him and they don't have his production, but they are the idea that because they lost one game, the first game the biggest game in raptors history. The first time they've ever had NBA finals start on the road that now all of a sudden, we should think they. Can't beat this team or any team without Kevin Durant. I don't buy that's one game. But if they go down oh to then. Is it a different conversation, then do you may be looking okay? Maybe not one hundred percent but when you think you can get back out there. We could use you June one, the number one reasons, you and I picked Toronto because we weren't expecting Kevin Durant to be there. Right. So we have included in the equation, even though other people they might not included. But you can guarantee you let them go down Owen to going back to oracle are already in territory. They've never been in. They've always all one zero, let's go to zero. That's what they're used to. So that should be to conversation. Kevin Durant has helped him get in the position where they can Pete. He is not there. The most logical question is if Kevin Durant would have been there. Do you think it would have been different NCI com? Can't play that way because he's got to spend so much energy on Katie. They go down without Kevin Durant absolutely foreign territory to them. I'll tell you territory. They have been they've been down three one. Without Kevin Durant against Kevin Durant. And they won that series. So again, I'm not gonna I I'm not going to overreact after the swept, Portland. I didn't say this proves makes them worse. Right. And I'm not going to say after game one this proof that can't win without fading. Back here first things. First NCWA and NBA champ, and FM Antoine Walker joins the show. You see what I did there justed, if there's anything else, you want me to Email that to me tomorrow? We'll get that right on for you. All right Antoine. Let's talk game, one of the NBA finals warriors raptors. And Toronto's POSCO Siachen was the star in this one, we said, cool, I was going to need someone else to step up. And that turned out to be POSCO Siaka lead Toronto with thirty two points as the raptors go on to win one eighteen one. Oh, nine to take the first game Steph at thirty four clay had twenty one wasn't enough. So the warriors drop game one it's the first time they've lost game one in the finals during this dynasty Antoine kick it over to you. How did the raptors pull it off? What I took a lot of boxes that we talked about put him the win. You start off with you think about the didn't turn the best while over the only had ten ovals, then you look at defensively how good they were actively wise as far as Marcus solid showing in the pick and roll. We worried about was he going to be able to play twenty five thirty minutes. He showed that he's going to be able to plan this series, though he stepped out on Steph and get into flexes active defensively. I thought was huge for Toronto. Then obviously. Offensively. You'd think about can they get one hundred fifteen hundred twenty one eighteen last night with Kawhi Leonard actually only getting twenty four points in the game. You got five guys in double figures. They did all the things that was necessary. Obviously, I most was was amazing. You guys talked about him enough on a show where he's done terrific things and showed a different part of game that I don't think we knew we had. I'm talking about what the mid mid range game, the activity level that he had visibly. The of this. I thought his post ups were great, especially against drain on. Yeah. A lot of the confidence to the rest of the team if he could win that battle, because he took in a couple of times off the dribble, and then Nick, nurse, we talked about the coach, he made that judgment the first adjustment. I thought when they decided we I knew they were going to do this. They will on double chain kuwa- take the ball out in the beginning. He wasn't a willing passer, the first six six seven minutes of the game, and then he realized he's going to have to be willing to pass trust as teammates. And once he did that they start to play much basketball, but I liked the two point guard. In the game. I thought was the best drudge that he did Danny green out the game. But in Fred and both of those guys cow and fricking both can make plays out the double team where Poland in have multiple guys that can make plays out the double team. The other thing that Fred van fleet brought was Steph was on fire in the first quarter and the first quarter, the only person scoring four Golden State was Steph curry, Fred wjm bleed starting the second quarter got more more time and started checking Steph. And in that game step was guarded by vanfleet on thirty three possessions and scored four points in a game where he scored thirty four in a game where he was the only warrior that was you could feel left that game feeling. I, I did my part Fred, vanfleet did a brilliant job mode on. He took six threes, when Fred was guarding him, one of six from three contested three. So a guy who was much maligned throughout the playoffs, and then went on an unbelievable shooting strip shooting. Run yesterday. His defense was the most important part because at the first. Quarter to me. It looked like this is going to be a forty plus point night for Steph curry holding him down in that second quarters. What prevented that, and then, even in the second half when he had the opportunities to match up on Steph he did a great job. And that, obviously everything we're dome out. Here is a secondary tertiary storyline to PASCAL Ciocci having as you pointed out, see, one of the greatest debuts in an NBA finals ever, you said, I guys since Iverson and only the third guy ever Iverson Jordan, Ciocci thirty five and five in their first game ever in the NBA. There were number of things that were fairly shocking and Marcus all start with him because we talked about how effective will be in the series, lo and behold, in three meetings last year, when he was Memphis against a warriors. He dropped twenty seven and nine and was shooting sixty two percent from three so Nick nurse. Knew that so going into the series, we didn't know how much Saul was going to play. But TD and he had a pas. Tive contribution to the game plan. And the other thing was how many games missed this season. Twenty two twenty two and in those games, the team played extraordinarily teen and five so now in the playoffs so now they're used to play without Kawhi. We didn't think that they would need that, but they have a comfort level, that if collide Doug score last night, quite held onto twenty-five. He's done that four times in the playoffs. They won every game that coli has been held under the twenty five and to me that comes from the eighty two game season where they spent those twenty gains without him where he was a healthy scratch, and you could develop character once playing with each other, and you could see even with Kawai being held down. They were very, very comfortable taking the load offense and those four games. I won't people know what games they were. It was round one game three against the magic. When the raptors stole home court back after falling down one in that series round two. Critical game five against philli to, to. We know how important game five is round three when they could have gone down, three, one till Milwaukee, right? Game four against Milwaukee. And then game, one of the NBA finals, those are the four times qui- has been least productive offensively and they haven't lost yet. And that's what we talked about is the role players and their bench player stepping up. There was a stretch where they weren't. And we were like, well, how far can Toronto go if there is no production from their bench. They were deepened their role players played great, but it also says something about this, this whole raptors organization to have the composure to come out against such an experienced two time defending champion warriors team and say, oh, the spotlight's not to break for us. We're going to be just fine even without Kurai doing what quite normal the beginning of the game you saw. You know, it was a little jittery nervous. Yes. The game lowers through his plan to fast. Thought about this right out the gym trying to keep the pace with Golden State, and they kind of caught they self opposite of fans. What terrific atmosphere and using the row players play better at home, and he's timeouts and they did they do. But what they want to continue to do is continue to communicate defensively, because that's the most I thought they got Steph, great, even though Steph numbers look good. If you third quarter when they got in the penalty, six of those points came just freak does. So it was they got him, really. Well, I think the whole stuff to eighteen shot attempts. I think was great Klay. Thompson scored a couple of lake buckets in the fourth quarter but they did a great job limiting those guys shot attempts. I think that's what really helped you got the reason why joy migraine and Andrea Diallo place away place, a well Portland. And last Houston, they didn't show up last night. You know, those guys did not play real well, and I told you say if I'm gonna lose I'm a lose, I drink a dollar. Beat me and withdraw, my green beaming seems like Nestor defensive strategy and those guys were five of sixteen from the field and six from three and the other thing that Nick nurse was able to do even though they're the team coming off a seven game slug fest, and then a six game war with the shorter layoff. He really pared down his rotation. I know nine guys played, but not really Pat McCaw got about five minutes. Norman bowsman been their best bench player got less than five minutes. He played seven guys he played his starters plus a Bacha and bam. Bleed all of those guys played seventeen minutes five of those six those guys played thirty plus minutes. So he trusted his veterans in that spot is easy to trust, Danny green when you have one of those first couple of shots go down, and Danny green to me as a wildcard. The reason why the bench can be shorter because Danny green. He becomes unplayable if his shots not going. But also he is a great defender. And he is played against Steph he's played against drama. And he is a bigger guard Bill. Those guards problem. So him build a play affective on offense man that led him. That's why he got the run that he did in last night's game plan twenty nine minutes, and that allows the bench to say shorter a bigger body as a two guard Nick nurse did a lot of good things in game. Number one that I believe are duplicate going on the rest of the suit. Things get heated up and here what Antoine Walker talking game, one of the NBA finals raptors beating the warriors one eighteen to one. Oh nine time you'll frosty four. You like it. Like it. Chicago. First time the warriors have lost game, one of the finals under Steve, Kirk. No, Kevin Durant in this one. But boogie cousins dick off the bench. Give you eight minutes. Stephan Klay combined for fifty five points wasn't enough though as the raptors built a halftime lead. Never quite relinquished it still Klay. Thompson is sure that gold. Stato bounceback. We're not very familiar with this team. But that's no excuse. You know, still got to come out here and our goal was to get one and still on a table for us. So I know respond like the champions. We are. Antoine agree with Klay Thompson. What do you think? We see in game tuna from this team I believe they're going to respond to a bit closer game. No probably with four or five minutes left. We'll have a really really tight game and may come down to a possession. But the thing Golden State what they're going to have to do better. They're gonna have to figure out if they're going to double tain kuwa- is gonna give Marcus authorities open, shots, even though we saw mouse have a bit game. Obviously in game four and make a bunch of threes, Marcus a skill big man, who's gonna make the right play who's been in these situations before they gotta figure out that and then Toronto has playmakers when they pay them two point Goss together, which is a great. Yes. Did she say? So they're going, they're going to be able to make plays that they got some adjusting to do that. And then for some reason, I felt like Steve Kerr for the first time didn't know what in lineup to go with you play Levin, God, this is the finals. You don't play Levin guys neck buckle down your rotation. You play maybe eight but he does with this is how what's the one series? They've lost. The cavs. And what was I know people talk about the block in the shot? But the turning point of that game was in the fourth quarter when on back toback possessions, Festus zeal in the fourth quarter of game seven of the final guarding LeBron James, and he hits a he gets them to Falome on three. And then he hits a three on Kerr when he doesn't have to rent has always had these super expansive rotations, and it's hard to have a set rotates when you're playing eleven guys why is it more important in the finals compared to we get away with it and regular season we've seen the first three rounds? But in the finals what does it mean to the players in the -ffected has on the game? If you don't have a base that can score the basketball, you can't afford to go long periods without Steph in Klay bien on the floor. So that's where her Golden State, not having that third legit score. Migraine. Jacob dollar guys that they are capable of scoring but they're not great offensive player. So they don't have a third guy right now the market's coming off a huge saw last night. He probably gonna get what you got from last night. He may be a little bit more effective, but he's not gonna be able to give you much. I mean is fourteen games to spend more than eight to ten minutes from him will probably, he's very limited. He can't go into the low post. Do you think in have the quickness and scale that you typically would beat him a couple of times in the Pirot last night? He gave up a couple layups and you'll know how many opportunities that you can really take give them layups. So I think this is the first time go to status out to make a second and third adjustment. I think the rotation has to get tighter if it's going to be joined Bill. I think he tried to go the, the five a little bit to start the game. The see if they can give markets all at the game. And join Bill skill set is not, not, not as good as obviously, Kevin Loney Kevin lean play wellness night, but he's not the same type of skill set. So that missing that Thurs scores got tight some things up. They're gonna be a tough. Ceres than what the warriors thought it was going to be. And listen, I understand you wanna stick to the your expected minutes for Steph and clay. But if you are if you want you see your down ten at halftime and you don't hit him with that flurry in the third quarter, then, guess what separating to play the entire fourth quarter like say the quite late. Forty three minutes. We have seen that played right? The high end of what we ever see him play forty minutes now game six against Houston. And he played that whole second half because he had to think I understand. It's game one you don't want, but there's these are they're not playing every other day like they did in the conference finals, you just had nine days off your don't play again. Until Sunday, the Steph needs to be until Katie comes back. I think you can rest staff for a few minutes of being in the second quarter you can hope your position to rest him at the beginning of the fourth, but you got to be ready to not play him only seven and a half minutes in the fourth quarter to play him, the entire fourth quarter and to go there because. You're totally right. That with boogie limited with Iggy hadn't hit a shot since the second earth, three into the second round you need step out there not only for his offense. But the way he opens things up for your more limited offense. You gotta get more out of Klay Thompson. Maybe in the finals, you gotta get more than twenty one points out of Klay Thompson. Creates a great three point shooter. He comes off screens. He's not a guy that you can get a basketball, so he's going to create the dribble. He's limited in that. So you got understand history of weaknesses. He benefits obviously, great from plan with Steph and, and obviously, Kevin, but he, but he's a guy's not going to put it on the deck and get his own. You're gonna have to set screens form and had to move and Toronto's to good defensively to just let him come off and just shoot threes. And he tried to get going last night. He took a couple of bad shots early in the game to try to get it going. And when those shots go in he becomes very limited because he's not let's he gets it in transition. He's not a guy's gonna kill you in the have quit because he doesn't deck it really. Well. Yeah. No other star player gets the type of treatment that clay clay can disappear have bad games. People don't say too much about them. But I think as we go on with this series, one of the things that we underestimated was the all NBA type level defenders Toronto have so you can talk about. K D, not being there. You've got about clay not getting this shy about. Fleet when he was on with. He was on staff he how he struggled. But man, this is a great defensive team. This is the best defensive team that they have faced in the championship in their five-year. Run going to go up and down. I think it's the best defense they've played in any round in this is there. Now they're twentieth series. They played over these five years to me. This is the best defense that Memphis team in two thousand fifteen could contend and they gave them some. They went up to one in the Spurs in twenty seventeen would have been the best defense but Colli got hurt. Quarters in, you have quite Leonard is one defensive player of the awards. Marcus is one of defensive player of the award. Danny green who's been on the defensive team. Pasco Siaka who I think will be on an all defensive team surge Bach who's been on all defensive teams in Kyle Lowry who got snubbed from an all defensive team. And then van Vliet, yes, playing his ass plane his tail off right now. You've got there's you seven guys, you're playing those are the seven guys that played more than five minutes last night. Ball of them are playing like the upper upper echelon defensive players, which is why you've got to be the team that gets out run. Not is no other combination like it in NBA will you can name off seven players deep and what do they do three Indy? They shoot three all of them in all of them play elite level defense. This is going to be a great series. We said this yesterday. We said you have one team with this top ranked offense and another team with the second ranked defense, and we put those two together what who's gonna come out on top. And it looked like. China's defense last night, Geno, your point Klay Thompson, though, can't be missed that they win katie's out there. Click Klay was upset. Remember, as you pointed out, see, he didn't make an NBA team. Okay. Like this is this is where and we know glade can do it, by the way, the moment will never be, too big for Klay Thompson. He has some of the greatest playoff moments including one of the greatest playoff games anyone's ever had game six against during the thunder in two thousand sixteen but they needed more from him last night. You mentioned he had twenty one, but I think at least five of those points, came, I don't want to call it garbage time, because we're never quite garbage time last night. But when when they were like two percent to win the big about you look at Steph, he goes on laugh, what times Klay Thompson does not post up. He's not a gun at decks it. Well, so his, his game is predicated on getting out in transition, getting open threes. Maybe getting the layup always going to have to get screen set for their to good defensive team. They can switch. He's not going to get those wide open, look, so I don't know what we can. Effect from clay towns. We know he's very capable of having a huge night. But if he only gonna get twelve thirteen maybe fourteen shot attempts. It's not gonna happen because he does not get to the free throw line at all. He's not the type of guy that attacks the basket off to the free throw line wants. Yes, he's got some limitations to his game. And that plays plays right into Toronto's hands. Tiger was returns to each side of most dominant major win. US open begins June thirteenth on FOX one and the Fox Sports app. We need to tiger to be about four under not to under yesterday. Chris's favourite. Course eleven of fourteen fairways, when you gotta make more birdies. Got hit hitting closer proximity to hold girl. Gets a quiet in a second. But first couple of highlights, presented by Hilton get a price match guarantee when you could heal dot com. Cricket South Africa. I England and Ben Stokes with one of the greatest catches, you will ever see. It could move Lee right there. We got crooked on your, you knew a guy did on the but been Stokes. I got a problem with this. You don't go to catch the ball. Listen to me. I know something about this when he goes to catch the ball, and you need to catch it with your left hand when you're going to your left, because when you try to catch it with your right. Was a blind spot. You're going to see the ball at one of your eyes. Watch this see that see I was armed came over. His is if he goes with his left, and he can keep both eyes on this. That's why he's catching crickets and that's why. It's. Creek finals came on bus go Ceac him. They call them spicy p for reason. Nice touch Pasokali for the layup. A lot of this game pass cow was doing things. We don't typically see him, do he had a top of the key three Steve Kerr cities. He's one of those in months, they clear that in the scouting report leaving open for that. He had a pull up jump shot rattled in. And this little touch pass in transition. But this was a big problem with the warriors, let him get out in transition after a make. Absolutely I was shocked at the confidence that the guards Toronto head and throwing the ball head to Siaka. He was amazing in transition last night. I more from him this time on defense watch the perfect timing to blockchain months shot. Right off the backboard right there. Now, that is what we expect from PASCAL. That's what they drafted him to be. They thought that he could be an excellent defensive player long. He's developed into an offensive player also. It is interesting, even if Toronto lose. Qui- how much pass cows career is going to have been impacted when his best case scenario is turning into a quiet Leonard like player a year of playing with Kawhi underneath quiet learning from he was great both. And also the guy who he blocked he can be a new and improved version of Draymond green guy on the offense of in that can be far more effective thinking we came one. Now despite the raptors winning eighteen to one oh nine Koi. Leonard was held in check for the most part scoring just twenty three points shooting less than thirty six percent from the field quite gave the warriors a lot of credit for his offensive struggles. Maybe the good job. No place, picking rows. Keeping third guy in a bag. Not play one on one really liked till near defense. You know that's pretty much. It is not letting me get no easy looks bring into to the ball and get by that there. Guys come in that. You know my teammates play tonight, so Mansa team game if they're gonna play like that. And you know. You guys are going to play will get wide open shots. Yeah. We did a good job we make Colli but. It's not quite Leonard. It's the raptors. So we'll go back to the drawing board and do better for Sunday. I Nick in the raptors continued to have successive, Koi doesn't figure out what the warriors are showing him on defense. No, they the raptors can't win this series intermixed five shots. And another moving they won't win another game that he makes only five shots they the raptor. The warriors the best thing they did last night was their defense on quiet Leonard and their other defensive breakdowns to my I were very rarely because of the personnel that committed to quiet Leonard. The reason that the, the warriors evens broke down was they weren't getting out in transition. They weren't rotating properly PASCAL. Siachen does had himself a day. It wasn't that we are compromising our entire defensive integrity to attack why. And then all of a sudden guys are hitting shots. We didn't expect they don't expect Pat McCaw to hit the three that he hit for van bleep the leaner, the buzzer that bounced in and out. But I- qui- is going to have to have more of an offense of impact in this series in order for the team to win because. You can't expect Siaka to go for thirty two Casale. Go for twenty you're not going to get a combined fifty two points from those guys again in this series. So in my opinion, the raptors have to feel great that they won, despite quiet, only making five shots last night, but I don't think that's duplicate. I think the best thing that happened. I totally disagree with you, because they did commit a lot of resources to stop Kawai. They did pack the paint. They did try to take the ball Kawais thirty two feet away from the bucket. They tried to take the ball of his hand. He's not going to shoot from there. So they look at this they're totally out of their defensive scheme. Look at this, they're totally doing things that they typically don't do and because the raptors are so unselfish and because they have more offense of weapons than anyone that they faced. That's why they took their defense apart because co I was unselfish they put Ghazal in the high post that he was able to distribute, so they had the same thing that the warriors have when they get the ball to dream on top of the key. They. They had the numbers advantage, and they had wide open shots. Now, play told us in the press conference. Our game plan was to stop Leonard, you know, something, it's to stop the raptors. So now we have to go back and change clay said it in, we have to change our game plan because they're heavy concentration was the take the ball hand and make these guys score. And then after losing gain number one, they're like listen, we're going to have to get a little better balance. But you still gotta give credit to the raptors defense that to me, it will be consistent. And I do believe that the raptors they've done it. Three other times. Besides last night. We're why didn't get off? Didn't have twenty five. They have won those games. So I do have confidence if they continue to pack try to take the ball out of quiet hands commit to guys, if he goes around the third guy Toronto Raptors we'll beat them. So I this is something I think the first thing from last night, you and I are just I- metrically opposed on, I think, Toronto, Golden State. Pardon me would be crazy to change. What they're half court defense, was, I think they achieved exactly what their objectives are, which is do not let quite get off. Make other guys go one on one. Now they need to a better job. They didn't have to go one on one. Unless they were they had the match when they had one on one C took them off the dribble. Once you got a switch and they got Steph curry in the low post and he had a mismatch. So then they went one on one. It wasn't where it was a head to head battle. It was they had strategically gotten a better offense of player in an advantage, and then they put him into one on. Yeah. So listen. I feel like Siachen was going one on one except for transition buckets throughout the night, and he was great. He was spectacular in it, but he's not gonna shoot eighty percent in another game this series. The raptors lost the warriors lost this game in my in my mind because they didn't get back in transition defense and PASCAL. Siaka Patty career day they the warriors will take scorn one. Oh, nine against this raptors defense. To me that's the story. I think the warriors would be nuts to change what they did on Koa. They now again, Steve curse in the first quarter break, you can't mess up your Roach. Tation your job gets harder. Once you do that, then guys have to know who has Mark Mishal on the top of the key, three. Everyone's gotta be reading and reacting quickly. But the most dangerous player on the raptors by far is quite Leonard. They shut him down, and it's not like going the thing, Kawais, not the most dangerous if they double team. Right. They are leaving someone open because they're forcing the ball out of hand. So at that moment, these are NBA players. They took advantage of it. So to me, see them on the fast break that hurt him Marcus all hidden shots behind the three point line in doing that early that opened up some things because if not, they not gonna have anyone Bill shut down. They're going to have to build take the ball out of hands with multiple Iggy is not that type of defendant. They said that you could see it in the game plan if they thought he could shut him down would have done it. Absolutely right. If they thought dream on could slowing. Down down it, but they're not going to it because they know they do not have the one defendant, and if they had Kevin Durant, Kevin Durant guarding one on one you wouldn't along you wouldn't have to double team. So all these things they have to they have to what poison do they want? Do they want to continue going for thirty five or they going to let the others beat them, and I bet that they're going to choose it? You know, something we're going double team sometime. But listen, we're gonna have to man up and we're gonna have to gar, y one on one because we can't give them open looks those NBA players knock down. What does he have to change going into game to listen? I think why is going to look at it, and there are some shots that were a little that were forces early, but otherwise as long as his team is playing as well as they were as long as they're good out in transition, and they are getting open looks, then he can be that passive on offense to a degree if they're not then it is incumbent upon him. Try to split the. Trap to try to force the action a little bit more. One of the reasons qui- now he did get to the free throw line in dozen times. Don't forget that right? And that's how you can have twenty three points with only five makes. But if the other guys aren't playing the level they were less. See having his game thing quite does have to force it a little bit more business. We need to do general far prediction to be true. We need to continue to get them into foul trouble if they keep Colli at the top of the offense at the top of the key. Then we need to why not to attack not like next on, we need to bring the ball back out and do exactly what he did find someone who is wide open who ultimately find someone else who's wide open later in the game you start to see when Kawai star getting shots, would they do they put him in the low post. They put him on the wing. They gotta pick for him because on the wings, it's harder to double team. And that's where he got a couple of shots later on so Nick nurse did adjusted later on where he took him off the point. Put him a little more on the wing. He was create some space. That's where he hit the three. On the left wing and been hit another three from the right wing. Was the start with the rafters in their game one when he led the way for Toronto with thirty two point see how impressive was he? Oh, so impressive general. But you called it those in it. Nice to be right Jim. I didn't nights. Didn't you come in and been like he does? I predicted that yesterday why people foulland's of watch TV. So we might say something was correct. I felt so good. Now, Jin personally told me on the side Siachen was going to. No, your time watching the game jenner's reading up on genital that he was the wild card and a whole series now. Yeah. Go ahead. What do you want me to something? That's true. Five to you wear to pay. This is all going exactly the way I want it to go America. Let it out on a Friday. Warriors. Andrea Dallas seem to injury. Toward the end of the game. Iggy stay positive saying he will be fine, Nick, how big of a deal is this. If Iggy is not fine. It's a big deal. New Andre would Alamada us all the guests that was left is tank against the Houston Rockets and I know my d'oro more he's got to be like you gotta be kidding guy hits five threes, in game six to beat us hasn't hit a three since then. And they. But if he can't go in game two you're gonna start out McKinney. Yes. We're going to initiate finals game. You're gonna start Jordan bell you acquired him by giving the Chicago Bulls three million dollars for the draft pick and funds McKinney who paid author McKinney, besides his parents only person know about him, Nick, right? Eight he was had him in some type of par or something with von McKinney, three years ago was playing in Luxembourg's secondary league and two years ago paid one hundred seventy dollars out of his own pocket. To try out for the G league. He goes start a finals game. So, yeah, they need to be healthy. I finally like predicted and the way Nick did not predict the rappers to care game. One last night rip that up despite the warriors favored going. And despite them coming in as the two-time defending champs, and, despite this being the biggest stage Toronto ever played on qui- says he knew Golden State could be beaten. We know that they're human great basketball team. Talented players high basketball IQ players. You know, you just gotta go out there and compete take the challenge. We're not gonna make. No big shots gome runs. And they Sabella just keeping your composure, and keep fighting through. Don't put your head down when, you know, players Steph or Klay make big three's just keep playing. Seeing was this game more about what the raptors did well or what the warriors struggled with last night in game one, it's a combination of both but you have to start with 'cause I was shocked in watching the game. The pre game I was so excited. My wife cooked a big old meal, and everything and watching the pre-game because the raptors all this was new to them how they were warming up. We're guys comfortable with the crowd and everything all the extras but leading up to the game. I just got a funny suspicion. What is Nick nurse going to do? And right before they announced the starting lineups he said, we're gonna Tak him. We're going to get out on the fast break. I said, well, this will be a blow out the warriors going to run them out the out the arena and right from the beginning. You could see the pace and I was like, is that going to work? But then you could see CRM has a huge advantage and it put Golden State on their heels. So you have to start with Nick nurse limited experience, that he has franchise. First game in the finals, the Justice that he made, and then his superstar in Kuwait, Leonard knowing that they were trying to take the ball out of his hand after those first couple minutes, not forcing things. Deferring to other people passing the ball away that they can get the offense started. Those were a couple of the keys and Golden State. They talked about that Danny green. They looked a little rusty, but nine days off, when you have the number of starters, hurt that they have her how hard, can you practice like we saw the film, during my I mean, boogie cousins that wouldn't real intense. But when you only have so many bodies, how intense could their preparation have been and you could see that, that timing that they had an important series and the last game against Houston. They lost leading up to game number one. This is to take nothing away from Toronto who passed Siachen had the game of his life. And one of the best finals debuts we've ever seen. You said it earlier thirty five and five. The finals. Here's the list of people. Michael Jordan is first finals against magic in the Lakers. Alan Iverson and his one and only finals, the step over title game against the the only game that entire playoff run. Those Lakers, lost an impasse Calcio last night with respect PASCAL Siaka, one of these players is not like the other Michael Iverson, and for Michael Iverson that was as they were already established all MBA the MVP's that season MVP caliber players of the league. So Siaka GMs great. The raptors deepened was what it's been all postseason brilliant. They wanna game where co why couldn't get off offense which by the way, makes them four. No. This postseason when quiet held under twenty five points which shows the team effort. But the reason I'm going to say it's more about the warriors losing it is because the warriors did the one thing of either team this game. That's indefensible they blew the effort stuff, and they screwed up. The things that you cannot screw up when it's June or late may about to be June. You cannot forget to get back in transition in the NBA finals. You cannot allow fast-break buckets after made basket. Yes, those are the types of errors, if we're being honest that Golden State was used to taking advantage of, in the first game of the NBA finals when they're playing the Cavs Cavs did not have great defenses did not come in ready for it. And all of a sudden look like the warriors who had maybe gotten a little a little rusty from the layoff and maybe a little confident of, well, you know, we'll be fine. We were down seventeen in game to game three and game four against Portland down at halftime and game to game three and game four against Portland. And guess what? We want them all we don't have to do all the little things you've got to do all the little things you have to give Toronto the respect you gave Houston, which they didn't seem to do less last night. Seemed to me from a scouting standpoint because typically be. As the game you lead up to the game, the scouting department the coaching staff they give you a list of things that the players can do so you can get locked in from an offense of standpoint. What a guys weaknesses are. What is strips are in from a defensive standpoint to me, the whole team of Toronto was locked into everything that the warriors did like they forced him. Steph, hit some tough shots like they didn't leave moping now. They found him a little too much. But as far as clay drama and what they were trying to do. How are they going to defend them to me they seem locked in to the game plan and they didn't? They weren't surprised to me the warriors in Steve Kerr with all the experience. They have all this playoff experience. They seemed a little more surprised. They were shot that Toronto was running out on them. They were shocked at Kawai was given up the ball and become a distributor stars the offense. So I expect them to make cues adjustments. Come in for Sunday's game game number two for granted a little bit that they'd been there before they'd done this before they know how to win. And they were going to win. And I think the third quarter when they thought they did it in the third quarter and a couple of games against Portland didn't know POSCO Siachen was going six for six and not relinquish the lead and not let up at all. Which is why the warriors also and this is where Steve Kerr who's already never coaches another game. He's going to the hall of fame. He's enormous part of this amazing dynasty, the wars Bill. Steve Kerr needed to adjust on the fly given the moment you can't go eight consecutive game minutes, which either with either clay or Steph on the bench is they did the end of the third, the beginning of the fourth, because when you're a win Draymond not hitting during months, not doesn't not bringing the punch offensively he did against Portland. Iggy is clearly limited not hitting his shots when Kevin Durant out. You, you can do that if you're in control the game but in a game that you had the lead once in the second quarter by two points, you trailed the end of one at the end of two at the end of three unique to say you know what take advantage of these nine. As off our two guys are gonna play heavier minutes than we expected, because staling game one from Toronto can be an enormous moment in this series, as opposed to Toronto feeling keep my isn't lost a game since game two against Milwaukee. They are feeling great about how they're playing. They beat. S nation for the day's best sport shows. Tune in for the biggest personalities on the biggest stories we get you started right here on first things. First. I tend to get you started. Jimmy, right? And Mary olefin before she's supposed to start talking during the commercial break. That's why you hear the little bleed into the conversation anything else guys before we finish. On Monday through Leon. Back here with Antoine Walker Thuan. We're talking, Kevin Durant. He didn't play in game one last night and despite making a trip to Toronto. Steve Kerr says katie's along shot to play in game two on Sunday. However, if he does return to the floor says the raptors will be ready. Does player? So he's going to be playing. We're definitely going to have to, you know prep for him. You know, he's another guy could just go thirty points and asleep. I mean, everybody know us for sure, we don't have to perform. I won last night show you that the warriors need Durant, if they want to win the finals need them when you have to play Levin guys to search for production off the bitch. I think a couple years ago Draymond green was better office on dollar obviously was a better office player. They're not the same. We know we saw the last five games both of these guys beats horrific but she asks him do some that they they're not accustomed doing now on the consistent basis. Or at least says, Kevin Durant has been there. They need him. If you can give them fifteen twenty it's hard to say because this injury and he hasn't practice. So we don't know what he's going to be able to give this. They're going to be the Kevin Durant. That was probably the best player in the NBA. You know this guy's planet best basketball, any player in the league. So I don't know if you're going to get that Kevin Durant. But they're going to need a third score to come in and help those guys out Toronto's, a deeper, we said that before we thought it was much better than Golden State. And now when you play Levin guys, you're searching for somebody to step up and give you something. And I think because missing fourteen games he's not going to be able to get there in this short period of time to get back to the form where he was at two before his injury. So they definitely need Kevin Durant, if they want to win this series to me, this is the they would like to have him. They would be in a better position if they have mino-, they don't need him to be Toronto. And this is as we always do myself included to me, this feels like a bit of a game. One overreaction, just like Boston was going to beat Milwaukee after game one just like Milwaukee was going to run through Toronto after game one we have seen in these playoffs game ones are meaningful, but they are not everything and we can't. Just throw away the last thirty two games. They played without Kevin Durant with Steph curry prior to last night, where they were thirty one in one or the entirety of the run that they had prior to last night. Well, let's include last night now with Steph curry without Kevin Durant. This warriors seem the last three years is thirty four and five. I understand you're not playing the Toronto Raptors all thirty nine of those games. You have a whole cross section of the good the bad and the mediocre NBA teams. I understand that. But can the warriors win four out of six against Toronto without Kevin Durant? Yes. Of course, they can candy, if they execute what they were trying to do last night in spots go back into Toronto on Sunday and win, of course, what they did to quiet Leonard was a huge positive. There were other things that they did that you can say, okay, we can build off of I if you, if you thought going into the series, they couldn't win without Kevin Durant. Then sure still feel that way. But if you going into the series, the warriors absolutely could win the series if Durant. Ever plays to change your opinion. Because Toronto one game one to me is foolish. We'll and I thought and reason why we picked Toronto was because Kevin Durant wasn't going to play. We didn't think he was going to play for the whole series. I still don't think he's probably not. I don't think he's going to play. But the probability when he starts to travel, he still hadn't been on the court and to me, every bucket Iverson, Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant, get since he's been the lead been a jump shot are something we elevated off the ground. And now you tell me he can't elevate because of a right calf that happened over three weeks ago when he first went out they said it's a four to six week injury, we're past three weeks. Now in he is not step foot on a basketball court with basketball shoes on trying to do basketball type thing. So I'm concerned about it. I know last night, Draymond green sit. Hey when Kevin Durant is with us. We feel invincible I know Steph curry whenever double team in thirty feet away. He would have liked to Kevin Durant out there Klay Thompson. I guarantee you would have got easier looks of if he wasn't out there. So to me, Kevin is always a part of it. He wasn't there last night. Now, Nick said this, I don't believe this, and we don't know. I don't believe they can beat the raptors without Kevin Durant. And if they lose this series is Coby the number one question asked for the next three to four months. It was the same question. You just asked Jenner. So I'm as well. Get used to go ahead. I'm on your side with Chris and I disagree with you. I believe if you're going to how you're going to be Toronto team. It's about matchups in the playoffs. This is a bad match up for the Golden State Warriors, if Kevin Durant is not playing if he's plans to different ballgame. But with him not play Drake migraine has to play real defense, not help defense. He has a guard you saw last night. He had to guard gets the was taking them to the post posting them up taking them off the dribble. This is a different Garfield. Andrea dollars not a hundred percent. He has to got the best player in the playoffs right now. Unique Kevin Durant guy who can protect the basket who could do some. Offensively odyssey take a lot of pressure of in clay, clay needs K K D. So he can free up him for some shots. And this is about matchups, bad matchup for the Golden State, if not there, they need to rent to drains flu. Right. They need to be invincible. They do not need Durant to in order to beat an opponent. Four out of seven times a world championship opponent. But see, you just said, you operated under the assumption, grants not gonna play and Golden State is in such rough shape, you pick Toronto to win in a seventh, no didn't say they're in rough shape Nick. But there's a reason why they went out and got K deal. I get it. But, but you, you just said was you operate, it helped it helped me yes it helped. No. But without Kevin Durant. You think this thing can go seven if you can go seven the warriors can win the of course, they can win, if I'm going into a fight. I'd much rather have all my weapon with that to put that is not, of course, they are better with Durant. Of course they would. Bigger favorites with Durant they would be better position to win with Darrin. That is not the question. The question is, can they win a championship if Durant never plays again? I all not going against Milwaukee and not going against Toronto. So you ask that question. That's my end saying you also you thought Milwaukee team thought, Milwaukee would beat the warriors. Absolutely. But I thought they beat the words with Durant or not. I thought Milwaukee was a bad match ups just swept Milwaukee four straight Danes. Oh, but we not going to give them credit for that. And you thought Milwaukee was going to give Golden State because they because Antoine's point it is a game of matchups, and they and there are to me. There was no one on Golden State that was going to be able to slow down Janas the way qui- was able to for Toronto. But set that aside, I, I cannot believe anyone actually thinks the warriors can't win the championship without during it's one thing to say they're not they're not the dominant force. They're not overwhelming. They play. Immo people are going to say that Nick is they got respect for them. They got to the greatest shooters, ever want one without Kevin Durant. So you have to respect that. But I think you look in that Nick, the five gangs, we saw them, play this year without Kevin Durant, how good they were they were great. They were spectacular mood, a bog trae, play great hundred. This is a different series different animal. They gotta do more defensively than they had to do against in the Portland series and us Toronto's, much better than Portland. This is a different different animal, they can't be. I don't believe they're going to win this series without Katie plant. If Katie does not play Toronto, Raptors will be the NBA champs, if they were planning Milwaukee, you would be sitting here, saying, they cannot beat Milwaukee with Kevin Durant are without giving. Right. But they're not playing Milwaukee different better team playing. Team is better because they beat them, and they just beat them like okay within. But you you don't get to do that math. Only one way you can't say we can use that series in this regard. But not, hey, the warriors with Kevin Durant. Nobody's going to beat them except for the fact that they were six and four in the ten games, plops delayed and they're five kid now. It's our show. Okay. Probably move because Kevin Durant, even if he does return is not going to be the Kevin Durant that we all seem the warriors need in order for them to win. Or maybe not you. He's already probably out for game two. And if he does come back three weeks into a six point was, is that even if that he's not thirty nine five and five K D, just takes Jonas to rub coz minutes, and all of a sudden can be a guy that can make it to where he's on the court steps off the can give you twenty minutes as a sixth, man. He thinks that's enough to get them over the top. If without question. That's what I believe you gotta have another legitimate score. Somebody that takes some pressure of staying Klay Thompson. They did a great job guarding him in limited shot at Tim's last night, and that's going to continue what goes well. Turns the Pebble Beach the side of his most dominant major win. The US open begins June thirteenth on FOX fest one and the Fox Sports J tournament. You guys get ready for Pebble Beach. I played it last weekend time and simulator. Tribeca. Thanks you. How's the cost? When Antoine Walker time now for say, it's the raptors took down the warriors and game one last night. And they'll trying to fans are hoping this series is wrapped up quickly. Steve Kerr has it going longer than expected say what? That's okay. What he said there. I'll be honest, we're going to hear held on able to hear it. Rafeh five or six. Math and five or six. Yeah. All right. They got one bit to Trump trumpeting coach. Right. They're not. They are not stressed out, yet, at least not publicly. The warriors are always going to present that air of invincibility. They keep reminding us there's what champions do that. We're champions now. One Steve Kerr is not used to game one of the NBA files, not sleeping in his own bed, go, and having to be on having to be. Out. They knew exactly what restaurants. They knew the hotel now they're an international city and Toronto. They could they gotta figure it out. They haven't been to pain gotta deal with all that, you gotta find Kevin Durant, calf got finding right? Absolutely. That's been the problem. Came on despite the raptors winning Koi Leonard was held in check for the most part scoring just twenty three shooting less than thirty six percent from the field. Coy gave the warriors a lot of credit for his offense of struggles. Good job. Place, picking rows keeping third gyn obey. Not play one on one really liked till near defense. You know that's pretty much. It is not letting me get no easy looks bring to, to the ball and get by that they're guys come in of that. That. You know my teammates played well tonight so tame game if they're gonna play like that. And you know. Guy, they're gonna play will get wide open shots. Yeah. We did good job. We make Hawaii. But. It's not quite Leonard. It's, it's the raptors. So we'll go back to the drawing board and to do better for Sunday. I Anton, the warriors Rabl to do what they wanted to do against as he is this team going to be able to have success, if, if quite figure out this warriors defense to have to they want to win this series. They're gonna speed curves not gonna change. They're not gonna let coed Linnet beat him plans going to be the same. This is going to be the same. I think one thing to have him looking at the film when I got try to split the Pirro, every now and then, you know, you gotta try to mix it up a little bit. Gotta try to split it. And then also yes to work from fifteen to seventeen feet. I think you got allow cow Larry to bring the ball 'til you and work at short a space, so it can be able to beat the double team, or at least get us his MIT rain's going. And he'll learned that he'll watch film, because they need in the squad a basketball and be aggressive. But also, he has still continue to be a willing passer and believe his teammates gonna make shots obviously, we're going to see in a couple of days of these these guys game travel on a row last night. They got five guys in double figures. Got to feel good about that guys may open threes. They make thirteen threes. So they got good things positives to build on. But if I'm Leonard I gotta figure out a little bit how to come to pick a Welby a little, I can't just invite the double team in allow them to make pick the ball up and then also worked from fifteen feet in. He's got he's one of the gas to has to all around game mitt rains game. He can get to the basket when he wants to, and he also could shoot at three. He asks us all facets of his game to be able to beat this double team. You can't just accept it and only get fourteen shots up. You don't want to force it, but gotta figure out a way to be aggressive. They're going to need, especially when they get on the road thousand percent agree with you going into the series. I said, the one of the most interesting dynamics of this series was, how were the warriors going to attack quite Leonard were, they going to do what they did when it got tough against the clippers Salou Williams, what they did to James harden after game four what they did today meal, Lillard the entire series, which is force someone else to beat. You send. You guys at you and make Leonard who up until the very end of these tunnels. We'd never seen be a highest this guy be a willing passer make the play entrust his teammates. And that's exactly what they did yesterday. And that is the one part of yesterday's game. I think the words are happy with you might see quite had five assists, but I know what those viruses were two of them were in transition kicking the ball, the court so that wasn't because of that two of them were pitching the ball to a guy for a buzzer, beating three one was the Fred van veep. Fred bam bleat toll on the line shot that bounced in and out, and what was the Pat McCaw? You gotta be kidding me. That goes in. So it was only one crew assist from the defense being compromise. Now he had five secondary assists, which means and that's what we're seeing those clips, he tosses it to Seoul and Ghazal, then gets the assists because he's hitting the open shooter. That's where the warriors have to be better. They when you're get to the secondary level, we're quite passes. And that guy makes a pass you after recover. You have to scramble. You have to. Give it the all out effort that people have given you when defending the Steph and Draymond pick and roll. That's where the warriors have to improve in game two but I would not change my game plan on quiet Leonard. When you held him to five made field goals like that is that was one of the few things the warriors did in my mind are super high level. I think it's very encouraging when you have your best to offense of players that being Cal Lowery and co Leonard and collectively. They go seven seven for twenty three and you win a game. I understand your point of saying the role players are better at home. Yes, they're better at home. Specially if they don't have any confidence. But now if you look at the last five games in the way that the raptors and the role players have played at some point, you got to be convinced that this could continue so Lynn and how they played last night. I'll give that one more game. Because I'm telling you, when they go to work quite Louis gonna win them game. They're all right. That's what you want, you'll superstar for. I'd like you approach is far saying, get closer to the. Basket because then you can affect the double team in a different way Kawai dribbling the ball weight from the bucket thirty feet away from the bucket. It hinders his ability to build a get his shot up, but his playmaking, and because he's unselfish there's going to be a time where Kawai will explode on them because they're not going to continue to double team because all those open looks they break down the defense. And the one thing that Toronto did, and other people in the NBA have done it, as far as putting Steph in odd spots defensively, with they decided to do was, they want Steph on the back end and Steph, was the guy that's got to hustle out so you won't Steph to play forty minutes you want him to keep running off all those picks. He's also got a run those extra five or six steps to build get to those three point shooters. And ultimately, I don't care who you are. It takes its toll in NBA players. I have seen this, my guy right here. I used to watch him season ticket, you know when he gets winded on the defensive and he never tired on offense. That's the way NBA players are. So Toronto has done a tremendous job. Yes. Kawai because he's unselfish but those other players getting someone a better shot than what they have the words are going to have to try to solve that and the ad today. And I think when you look at what the what Toronto was able to do. I thought they were really patient. The other guys when it came to scoring a basketball I thought they took advantage with Steph was down the block a couple of times Marcus scoring ham. Siaka scored over my Cup one time. So those guys continue to be patient festively, especially with Kalat being a willing passer then the office becomes a lot easier. And then I'm gonna break the fast break was great. I mean, but you get on the road, those opportunities may not be there and home within the crowd, you can play a little faster, but on the road, you got to figure out how you're going to be able to score the basketball. I don't know if you can get one eighteen every night against great coach tells you to get back on defense. You know what it sacrifices is sacrifices though, second chance points and those offenses boards. So, regardless, I don't care how good. Golden State is players can't be into spots. So Steve Kirk and not say, I want you guys to get back on defense. And one of the things that made the way your special was their ability to often have rebound and builder kicked the ball back out for the second chance point. And that's what you can't do both. That's what kept their offense alive, early was they, they had three threes, I think, in the first half offense of rebounds. Which is why it's indefensible, if you're going to sacrifice the transition game there you cannot be given up. Transition baskets after makes not going to know offense rebound after make get your butt back and go. That's what the warriors weren't doing. That's one of the places Toronto took advantage. Thank you for listening to the first things. 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Hour 2 - Bryan Hayes (06-11-19)

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Hour 2 - Bryan Hayes (06-11-19)

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I'm not sure I'm not sure how to calculate this because you won the game. And you lost Kevin Durant. So your seasons still alive. But you lost Kevin Durant in the process here. We don't know the severity of the injury and MRI later on this morning. And I guess most of the indications that I've heard or read have to do with a torn achilles. The Bleacher report app connects you with all the moments that matter faster. Follow your friends give your take on highly. Light scores and more. Download the app today. Our poll question is sponsored by man versus food on cooking channel, mclovin. Okay. Who'd he got the raptors warriors right now sixty six percent raptors. Yeah. I'll still take them because I don't know what to expect out of Golden State when they go back home. They'll get an emotional lift, but you still don't have Durant. And I think Toronto is a better team then you when you don't have Durant. This was in USA today, the writer is Dan Walkin. He's covering the NBA finals and is the headline which the writer doesn't write the headlines. But somebody else writes this opinion. Kevin Durant game five injury is a failure on many levels. Dan, walk in the columns for USA today, says in the end the idea Durant was somehow soft because he couldn't make it back onto the court until Monday was always ridiculous. If Durant could've played he would have been out there in the first four games, his body didn't let him. And if the noise. Somehow played any role in Durant coming back before his body was ready to compete. We all need to own some of that NBA careers on forever and the discourse around injuries, which often includes some romantic tough man idea of the way things used to be needs to change. If the worst happened and he tours achilles. In a way that will rob Durant of one of the prime years of his career. It's a major failure by everyone. Yes. Including the warriors Bob Myers, the front office exact for the warriors said I don't think there's anybody to blame. But I get it this that stuff happens. I hope nobody does place blame. You can say injuries are fluky and to an extent. That's true. But this one didn't seem like it the same leg the same part of the leg after a month of drama and mystery that never seemed to lead anywhere good Durant, hadn't played or done significant basketball activity for a month. It's hard to view dropping him in the middle of the finals at that intensity and speed on a leg that wasn't good enough to play. Seventy two hours earlier as anything other than a risk. He has tried to fight his way back and put his body on the line for those guys. And that franchise. Fred van bleat, the raptors guard said you just hate to see that. We feel for him. It's very unfortunate. It's Dan Wilkin goes on to write. Maybe the long-term outlet outlook for Durant will be okay. The off season is coming plenty of time to rest up. No matter what happens, he'll go into free agency. Get amac's contracts somewhere, even if he has to sit out the start of next season. But when bodies start to break down in the NBA intentionally accelerating, the damage can be a dangerous game. Let's just hope what happened Monday didn't cost. Kevin Durant more than a chance to rescue a title. I didn't understand what Bob Myers was saying when he said, you know, we did everything you're supposed to do. But if you're going to blame somebody blame me here is the Golden State Warriors executive. I don't believe there's anybody to blame. But I understand this world. And if you have to. You can blame me. I run our best ball, operations department and. Tell you something about Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant loves to play basketball, and the people that questioned. Where he wanted to get back to this team were wrong. That's Bob Myers, obviously emotional. And he said, look, they did their due diligence everybody. Did their job. I do have an issue. Somebody's not able to go seventy two hours earlier and all of a sudden they're ready to all of a sudden play the most important game of the season. And no minutes restrictions that I was shocked. I would have thought if I have him out there if I can get him in the flow, he feels, okay. He's a spot up jump shooter. That's it. You know, even if he's shooting mid range, jump, whatever it is. He's just going to be a designated shooter. I don't want to bring in the ball up, which we did see him do if he goes out of the gang. We put him on a stationary. Bicycle we keep it loose. We keep it moving. That's all I would have done. And I gotta protect Kevin Durant from Kevin Durant, because Durant going to want to go out there and play. And he's going to he's going to want to continue to play. But I don't think for a moment that, you know, the column that Dan walking wrote for USA today that. Somehow, the media forced Golden State to get him out there or Kevin to Kevin Durant, doesn't listen to us. He he, he knows his body. He chooses what he wants to do. If he wanted to be out there, he was going to be out there if he didn't. And he said, give me one more game. And I'll be ready to be one hundred percent. You know, did he roll the dice to Golden State roll the dice? Is there sliding curve air of one hundred percent? Are you cleared and are you one hundred percent completely different? But I don't think for a moment. The Kevin Durant said, boy, I'm going to balance my critics. And I'm gonna go out there and be tough. That that's not smart at all. I don't think Kevin Durant wants to go out there and say, member Golden State was better without Kevin Durant. Well, we found out they're not better without Kevin Durant. He didn't have to go out there and play for us to go, you know, Kevin's. Right. They are a lot better team with Kevin in there. We know that, but I can't imagine Kevin Durant goes, you know, I probably shouldn't be out there and seventy two hours ago, I couldn't play. But now I can I just I don't that doesn't sound like somebody who's. Been around the league along time. If you're twenty two or twenty three you don't know better, but he's thirty. He's been through this. He he's had this injury before and granted he could've played not gotten hurt and you know, we, we wouldn't have thought twice about this. But the fact it's the same leg. You have the calf muscle and then you have the achilles injury. If it's serious, it's going to be devastating because it's going to be nine ten months of rehab to come back. Maybe stays with Golden State one more year. If I'm the Knicks or some of these other tin, the nets I say, hey, Kevin will take you in whatever whatever shape you show up. We're gonna take you. We want you. That would be my pitch in my pitch would be that right now. Yep. And the other thing is this is pretty simple. If the warriors route three one before last night's game instead down three one Kevin Durant doesn't play. He chooses not to play because he's not needed. This was a risk based. On the subsidy. His team was in dire. Straits going to Toronto, a very good team. That's up. Three wanted me. He needed to roll the dice a little bit because he wants to pick up a ring rings are hard to come by even for him and guarantee I believe that if they were up three one he does not even consider playing a game if this game is in January, these on a plane. So there had to be a moment where Kevin Durant had to make decision of whether he wanted to play, and how healthy he could be his team needed him. And if like that's why I don't understand what Bob Myers is apologizing for did the medical staff do their job. Did they do their due diligence? Did they vet this as much as you're supposed to? And if that's the case, then fine, I have no problem with that. And if Kevin Durant signed off on this now if somebody said, hey, you know what we might have deceived. Kevin or we told him that he couldn't risk further injury or whatever somebody might say, there have been lawsuits down through the years with Dick Button. Casse with the Chicago Bears. Bill, Walton with the Portland trailblazers you know, they were lied to now I'm not accusing that with Golden State's medical staff. I don't know them. I can only tell you what I told you last hour, I was told they are as thorough, as any medical staff as cautious as any medical staff in sports. So I will take that person at their word when they were telling me that on the show. But Kevin Durant is down. Best case scenario. He's not playing in the finals worst case scenario. He's not going to be playing for nine or ten months and players. Don't really come back from this achilles. Kobe had it late in his career. Boogie cousins still trying to prove that he can be a twenty five thirteen kinda guy. I had the micro fracture surgery where they drill holes in your knee, and they tried to get blood flow to see if you can grow cartilage again. Guys never come back from that really really rare. I was just trying to do it to be able to have a normal life. They were getting holes drilled into their knees. And then they were tried to see if there was blood, I had a what's called a disease knee was dead knee, and there was no blood in there and I couldn't grow cartilage in there, but this is a situation with the achilles. You know, our medical technology. We haven't improved anything. It's, it's nine to ten months, probably that he's going to sit down, how that affects free agency. Not quite sure. But if I am the Knicks or the nets, and I get an opportunity and Katie wants to come here. Then I go after absolutely and Golden State. We're gonna find out how much do you love him? Do you want to keep them? You're going to give them a supermax deal if he decides to keep that last year of his contract, you gonna let him just rehab on your dime. And so I'm curious what Golden State does. You know, you know how philanthropic and dubious they going to be with this injury with Kevin Durant. I big Papi who shot in the Dominican Republic has returned to Boston as the Red Sox had their playing doctors fly down, and they got him and brought him back. And he will be recovering in a Boston area hospital blues in the Bruins that will be tomorrow night game, seven dot com or will be on the call will join us coming up tomorrow. We'll check in with the raptors coming up in a little bit. We'll check in with the warriors. Next, our phone calls are welcome Ryan. In South Dakota leads us off his second hour. Hi, ryan. What do you have for me today? Martin dad morning, the I think it's really easy to play the blame game here. There's a lot of people involved with which ultimately, it's up to Evan Durant. If he wants to. Yes, it didn't sound like nobody, nobody was pressuring him to get out there, actually everything. You've heard from coach from Steve Kerr two other players like Draymond green. It was like, you know, just come back when, when you're ready, there was no pressure to do it. So I think it's again it's easy to play the blame game but ultimately, it's on Kevin. And I don't want to blame him but he made the call. And what happened happened? Yeah. It's fluky, and that's if you've ever seen these injuries, like Dan Marino suffered in Killys terror. And if you watch the play there was nothing that happened during the plays. Very casual David Beckham Koby you know the achilles win it blows. It it just goes and, and it seems, you know cumulative that it's just. The build up the wear and tear now did favoring his right leg in the calf injury. I I'm not a doctor. And I look, I tell you all the medical issues I've had, and that's the one mclovin goes, have you ever had towards the Phillies? I go. No. That's one of the things I never had. Yeah. But it's you're like a game of operation. We say, like I know everywhere every injured, I have on my how did you deal with that? Back in two thousand eleven. Jimmy in Texas. I Jimmy, what do you have for me? Hey, what thing I noticed last night, and the game, I noticed been every time he went to the bench. He. He what? Thank you, Jimmy Kennedy in Louisville. It Kennedy welcome. Hey, dan. How are you? Good, sir. What do you have? I just want to ask you what your thoughts on potentially the story. A couple of days ago with the worst players who are a little confused on why you know, the status of his injury and just wanted to see if you thought that might have anything to do with coming back a little early and just kind of your thoughts, frontier demand. So. Yeah, and you know, there was a column that was written about this that sort of was looking at the unrest in the locker room. I I'm not sure how to categorize it but or clarified. But the it felt like there was some people in the locker room teammates, who were questioning Kevin Durant. And when he was coming back, I you know, I, I don't know what the temperature is in that locker room. But I'm guessing if you're looking at Kevin Durant, you're seeing that he's working. He didn't get to actually go through practices where you're really testing it. That was that was another thing that was surprising here. Do I think that they said Kevin if we clear you are you ready to play? Do you wanna play? How much can you play? How do you feel like all these simple questions that you would ask and the answers aren't always simple because Kevin could probably say, hey, I can I can play. You know, I can shoot. He was out there dunking. He was dancing in the tunnel before the game. The impression was he's good. He's fine. So I, I don't put blame until somebody tells me, there's reason to put blame on somebody, but I look at this is just culpability of, you know, the, the front office, medical staff in K D. Everybody's involved in this decision. But I'm guessing I'm guessing Kevin Durant had the final say so couple of other things Nick nurse calling that time out when Toronto was on a roll. I didn't understand it. You had. You had momentum. I'll talk about it. You here's the coach Nick nurse talking about taking that time out late in the game. I wanted to know the thought process behind calling the time out when we were making a run while the raptors are making their run those two we took it three minute, Mark. Yeah. Well, we had two free ones that you lose under the three minute Mark, and we just came across and just decided to give those guys arrest. And we had we had back to back ones there that we would have lost under the three minute, Mark, and just thought we could use the extra energy push. Okay. You may lose those timeouts but does Golden State, keep those timeouts and if they call time out your guys will get a breather. My point was, you're on a roll. You got him on the ropes and I'm not worried about your guys needing a breather. If if your guys are tired. They're tired, and you guys are on a roll I put my foot down on the accelerator. And that's why I went well, okay. Because Golden State responded. They, they regrouped and they came back. And that was the difference there that stretch, but that those final sequences when you got Steph with the three and clay with the three specially the ball movement on clay to I can't say enough about how beautiful that was. That's where inside outside move to the other side, and you do it without any dribbles whatsoever. And even though quite came out to contest and Klay hit Klay practices that shot I was watching him previous game during warmups. I know I don't have a life, but I was wondering what clay does during warm? So we always see Steph clay will practice that pump fake. A lot because any did it he gave like he was gonna shoot clay? You know, quite came after him took step over bone hit Steph and clay practice what they do in the game as well as anybody I've ever seen a lot of players when they're practicing, when they're in warm. They're just shooting. There's no game like situation. But you watch those two it's this is where I get the ball what happens if somebody's on me if I take one dribble, if I do a pump Vic Steph is famous for shooting shots off balance, left hand, you know game like situations and you saw that last night in a microcosm Steph hit a big shot. And clay, thanks to ball movement with Golden State had the wide open jumper. Yup. Steph does little things. There is a plan the first African pulled on a three and he left his shooting arm out there and he made it kind of rigid. And as Fred vanfleet flew by he caught his arm. And vanfleet really didn't follow him, but he caught his arm and caused them to be spun and Steph did it on purpose? He totally baited him and left his arm out there and got spun around. There was no foul but he induced a foul. It's genius. Oliver in Los Angeles before we take a break Oliver, welcome to the program. Hey Dan, been listening for a year now with my new commute. Love your guy showed love, Dan. Love the danettes six foot one eighty. So a lot last night was just an epic choke by the Toronto Raptors. And then I agree, totally with you, the excellence of clay and stuff just went to work and just put the dagger in them. I mean, I cannot see the raptors coming back from not boss. If you if you saw the fans, I mean, it was they just took the heart out of that team in the city. I mean, Klay and Steph, and now they're playing for K D. I mean it's going to be tougher now the raptors to come back from that. All right. Well, thank you, Oliver and glad you joined the program there. Yeah. I wonder about this is it goes back to Golden State. I think we're under the impression that Golden State wins this game. And then it goes back to Toronto for game seven yes, mclovin. I said, the same thing when the Sixers jumped all over the raptors a couple of times. And, and when the bucks, I'll tell you the raptors have they got blown out in game six against the Sixers. I'm like, well, that's it. You know, the Sixers are gonna roll from here, and then they recovered. That's why I'm a little nervous. If I'm wars know. You're, you're down three games to two and you're without Kevin Durant. You're heading back home feels like if you had trouble predicting, which raptors team is going to come out nightly basis throughout the whole, Posey's. Yeah. Yeah. You, you know, but that's, that's where you haven't, there's inconsistency with that lineup. You're not quite sure who steps up and you like Danny green was great in the previous game and then existent, and then lower be great. And that'd be non-existent Gusau great nonexistent. Fred vanfleet, PASCAL. Like you're not quite sure what you can get Steph curry goes into every game, knowing clay is going to be there with me. He just knows that Draymond wildcard ego. Dollar wildcard. They're not quite sure what they're getting the bench. You know, looney probably shouldn't even be out there. Boogie cousins, you're not sure what you're going to get. It's great. When you know you have a number two guy who will always be there for you and Golden State has that luxury Toronto does not Toronto has more talent and more depth. But they don't have more consistency. I, we'll take a break. We'll check in with the raptors as the series now, shifts to Golden State phone calls are welcome. 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We are authors of underwritten by farmer's truck fire insurance exchange center. Affiliates products on available in every state. Oh, I am the gift that keeps on giving. Danettes said, could we get a twenty four second shot clock here? I said, all right. I'll see what I can do. So we ordered a twenty four second shot clock for today's games seat, mclovin out there practicing because it's week two of the American unathletic association of America week to yes, mclovin, you're good. So you gave us a piece of advice in the last segment practice what you're going to try to do in the game. So I'm out there taking two dribbles to the laughing. Where am I going? Right. And we have the shot clock. It's twenty four second shot clock because there was there was a concern questions that maybe somebody who is stalling last game, therefore, I had to go get a shot clock. Yes. Because stalling is a fair technique back in the old days member. Roy remember North Carolina for corners, Dean Smith. 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Oh, oh, I thought you were talking about us know Mike, if we know like if like when we've been in Los Angeles, which we go there all the time. Yeah, right. And you can go check out all of these awesome places. I think it's cool about L LA as you see houses that you recognize from TV shows. Yes, we see I actually we were all driving around, and we saw the Brady bunch house, and they can Sherman oaks before, but you drive around and I think we're driving from the airport a few years ago and see those poly within like knocking Toby plaza. I called my way my wife's favorite movies diehard, which makes you even hotter. And I said, baby knocking told me plaza, and she goes, I think it's actually a different name, like not, not for me. It's not like you can you find yourself just walking down the street and you don't know where you are. And you turn a corner. And there's the capital records building Amos, you know, such a famous piece of architecture. I guess, but it's just awesome to see that stuff and Tower Records was big in Los Angeles on sunset. He that's where they started. Yeah. They did amoeba. That's a strong one two. That's a great record store. I'm trying to. I would not want to have one of those houses that was famous. I have driven up my buddy Danny drove us to Sherman oaks, and we, he lives in Sherman oaks, and we saw the Brady bunch house, and they had a gate and they had a little sign that please don't knock on the door unless if you buy that house, you should embrace it and make money off it if I could make money off of it. But there there's an apartment building in New York. And it's in Greenwich Village in this is the exterior shot of Sarah. Jessica parker. Sex in the city. So the window is the exterior of her apartment in sex in the city. Now, what people don't know, and they come from all over the world, I guess, just to get pictures in front of that window, sir. Jessica Parker lives actually, lives one block over and you know, nobody knows that to go over there and maybe camp out her house to get a picture of her as opposed to this exterior of a Brownstone. Yes. Last week, the house from the sopranos. Tony soprano's house came on the market in New Jersey. I don't know what town but they said the estimated worth of a house of this size in this neighborhood is about one point six million dollars. The house is being sold for like three point two million almost double because of the novelty of the house. I wouldn't want it all I would. But man, you gotta put up with people driving up and knocking on the door. I guess what people do with this apprentice house people drive up, and they wear a bathrobe, and they take a picture himself coming down and dry with favor like Tony soprano people do that. Yes. Mclovin, if you took my sex in city tour, Dan, you would know that we put Sarah, Jessica Parker's real -partment on there to let me get to Brian Hayes, the host of overdrive. That's our Toronto affiliate TSN ten fifty the drive time show from four to seven. He was at the game last night. How is morale today? Brian. I think we're holding up. Okay. Dan, it was. It was a wild scene last night. And you know, Golden State's are great team. Their dynasty, obviously, but base squeaked out a win last night. You know they held control for the majority of the game. But at the end of the day, it's still three two and the raptors are seven and two since going down to nothing against Milwaukee. Three on the road game five in Milwaukee games three and four at oracle. So shockingly, it's, it's a rarity up here in Toronto with sports history. But people are actually feeling pretty confident today was there a moment last night, where you thought we have it or a moment last night, where you said, we don't have it a half second before Niklas, call that time out about five left on the clock and at about thirty seconds after play resumed collide. I Leonard he, he, he went, you know, legend, he went on a ten ten point run on his own and that building, I've been going there for twenty years. I have never felt that type of electricity courses through that building. It was ready to pop people were going crazy. And Steph curry MRs at three and you could tell Steph was dejected. You know, you, you could tell he, he was thinking here we go. We're or about to handover title, and I have no idea what Nick nurse was doing calling that time out. And then they come out of the time out and clay hits two-three stuff. It's three and Kawhi Leonard doesn't get another basket. And now they're heading back to Oakland. I said there was five seconds of bad fan behavior. I don't want to blame this on everybody there, obviously, but it felt like you know, it's an emotional moment. You're trying to win a championship. You're winning a championship for an entire country. Durant goes down. Everybody's excited because they know of Durant's you know, that calf injuries, you know back again. Hayes not gonna play and we got an even better chance. The fans didn't obviously understand the magnitude of it, but they quickly did your thoughts with the fan reaction to. Yeah. I think you're spot on, Dan. I think they're. There were three chapters to what happened last night with the Durant injury for starters. You've got to go back to even before the series began. We've been jokingly calling Durant John wick on our show because he's just the boogeyman that's in the shadows. And you know, if you show up you big trouble. So there's been a lot of trepidation coursing through it. The fan base here knowing who he is. And what he represents it didn't help that he shows up last night and hits. Too quick, threes and looks unbelievable in the first quarter. So there was a lot of angst because of who Durant was. And I think when he originally got injured the initial pop was people thought search of gotta steal now he didn't Durant, obviously blew out his achilles or whatever he did. He just kind of let go of the ball but you're right. I think it was human nature. The first three or four seconds like, wow, he's down. And that means the Rapids really have a shot at winning this title. That was the first chapter. The second chapter was the ugliness where people, I think understood the extent of. Is injury by no means was twenty thousand people, I'm not sure what the percentage of, of it was in terms of the crowd. But there it was loud enough. You could pick it up and they were cheering. The fact that this guy was significantly injured. That was the second chapter, the third chapter though, was redemption. I think for Toronto and typically Canadian because we had to apologize for our initial reaction, and people started chanting his name any got a huge applause, as he walked down the tunnel. So I don't think that third chapter has been brought up enough. I understand the lure and the captivity that comes with, you know, booing an injury and obviously, it leads to a lot of debate but there was a, a real sense of, you know, Soro for Kevin Durant in the crowd, and he, he did get a pretty decent champ, by the time he left her build them. I mentioned this yesterday. In fact, I think this poll question for a little while if I say to the, the, the country Canada, you can have a raptors championship or the Maple Leafs win. Another stanley. Cup. And I said, I, I don't think this is really a decision or choice like this is Canada winning a championship. You know, people in Alberta and Calgary couldn't care less about Toronto, winning a Stanley Cup. But it feels like you know, Canada would be able to embrace a championship in a sport that they haven't ever wanted championship before your thoughts on that. Absolutely. There are two quote unquote candidates teams up here. It's the raptors in the Blue Jays because they're on an island, you know, they're the only Canadian teams in the NBA and major league baseball where in the NHL you've got seven Canadian teams and the Maple Leafs are so hated by anyone that he's in April fan. I would say it's like the Yankees and the Cowboys combined, if somehow or you're put together the obnoxiousness of the Yankees fans and Cowboys fan they were dwarf into maple leaf fans without the success, although we haven't had. A lot of success recently either. So the rest of the country, it is still polarized. Do you either love the leaves or vehemently despise believe? So I don't think there's any question if you were if you were casting votes throughout the country. The raptors winning title would be a, a landslide now in Toronto. It'd be very different story, you know, obviously, the raptors are big here, but this is a maple leaf town historically and I think it's still will be moving forward. But from a grassroots perspective, I, I've been saying recently, I think if the raptors can win a title, this will dwarf, what Vince Carter brought to this market, and what Vince Carter represented to basketball in this country because if they can actually win the reaction will just be so jubilant from coast to coast. Do care where you get your win? If I say you're winning a championship do care if it's in Golden State or back in Toronto. Well, I'm in the content game, Dan. So I say push it seven if we can. I mean, if I have that choice, you know, put push it seven get, you know, then you build up the anxiety a little bit. I mean, that's totally selfish as a radio guy just looking for more content. But I think fans clearly would have said, you know last night, and don't make us do this. Don't make us go through a game seven, I think raptors fans are going to be holding their breath between now and, and Thursday night and if they can find a way to get a win. It's never happened. You know, the raptors have never been in the NBA finals, let alone win a title. So quite frankly they could pick up a game and play in Europe and people would be fine with it. They're just so excited to, to be on the verge of finally winning a title Ryan. Thanks for joining us. We appreciate it five. Dan? Thanks. And Brian Hayes. He's the host of overdrive Hayes. Noodles in the oh, Doug on TSN ten fifty or Toronto affiliate. You gotta watch out for noodles. We try to get noodles, but he was too roughed up. Yeah. Yeah. And the oh oh my God. Don't even start on the oh dog I had the dump button ready for noodle. Stan. Yeah. Yeah, it was five bad seconds for those raptor fans. And you know that they, I you get so caught up and you know, people are different, you know, when you go to a sporting event, sometimes and this, how you act and you let it out. You like this is you got a couple of pops in you. And you're ready to go man. And then all of a sudden Durant goes down in your thinking, you know, we're gonna win like you don't care how you're going to win. And that's why when this series started I said that people are going to try to attach an asterisk to this, and don't let them because this has happened down through history. In a variety of sports, where players are not playing or not healthy or they get injured in the playoffs, you win you beat who's in front of you. This isn't fifteen years twenty years down the road. No one is going to say or shouldn't say, yeah, the raptors one but no, you play who's in front of you. And that's what they've. Done, and it's about staying healthy. 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We've thought of everything and the faculty that we have we've got close to three hundred years of experience in this business. If you wanna learn more about the Dan Patrick school to sports sportscasting, go to full sail dot EDU slash Dan. Patrick couple of phone calls, including gusts in Los Angeles. Welcome back Gus what do you have for me today? The morning VP thing we're taking the phone clear just going quickly wanted to 'cause on, basically quick. Remember when when the warriors were out here in Los Angeles, and it was the clippers and Draymond green, MRs three, and you got into Acadia and he told K D, very infamously. We don't need you. We've won without you just like I told you back then but more and more importantly, they haven't lost with him. So here we are now and I don't know if you've got on social media yesterday, the amount of means and everybody was like saying, Kevin Durant back. Kevin Durant back. It changed it for some reason. I thought that's Ronald Mazda game before it even started. So to me, it wasn't a shock. That's a lot of lost yesterday because of the momentum that was there. It just shows the importance of Kevin Durant, and how I conduct a presence. He has just with the reporting that he's back and, you know, I would I'm willing to bet a shower saying boys are out here not too long. A wins. This because they no longer have to having to rant and that is a bit. Well, wait a minute. Toronto's got two chances to win one game including one at home. Gaas now few said, Golden State was winning then maybe you get some takers for shower. Shame. You're the thing. Here's the thing, though, on green straight up folk, Kevin Durant. We won without you. We don't need you. Yeah. But they do need him. Gus we we know they need him. We, we know you and me. We know that they need. Oh, yes. Of course, we do. That's obvious. But I'm just trying to show here that it's like come on this guy just look at the presence that we got yesterday. And it was just shocking to see that in I, I mean to the game was won. And lost before it was even tipped off because Kevin Durant, retire. Now he's going, and I just think that it's over. It's over and done with, and it may go seven. But Toronto got this in the bag. Well, thank you guys. I don't think it was over and done with. I went, I think we wanted to see and you know, understand this, Katie warming up. You're excited if you're Toronto your little nervous. You're not sure what you're gonna get with K D Golden State censure, what they're going to get with Katie comes out, and he has three threes. And now all of a sudden, you're going, oh, then he gets injured if you're Toronto fan, you're going now, we have this. And if you're Golden State what are you thinking? Oh my God. We just lost him. How do we regroup in Toronto and they did? I don't think it was a foregone conclusion at all that just because Katie was playing that they were going to win, because y'all septa factor in how debilitating that was for just the warriors who had to go back out on the floor. They help Katie off. They have to go out and then try to win. So I that was not a foregone conclusion in my mind, yes, mclovin. Yeah. They were down six or three minutes. Yeah. I mean Toronto should've won that series. Should've won the game last night. Co why didn't play well until he played extremely well with at ten ten or run. But you know I got problems in the last three Matt great teams close out teams in the final three minutes. Two minutes, one minute in Golden State did that last night in Toronto did not. I watch the thing on NBA TV this morning about the last shot by Lowery. They broke down everything. Draymond green did. He actually pushes, etc. Out to jump fast. On quite Leonard when he got the ball, so quiet would have to give it up, and then Draymond drops down and cover fronts, Mark assault. So they couldn't get it to him, then when lower got the ball, he went out and most people think that Draymond green got a piece of the ball because you know Kyle. Our is not hitting the side of the backboard with an open. Look, no. You've got a piece. You got a very small piece of finger on it. So like that last play dream onto covered three different people. But the point that I made in the first hour of that play when you watch it Draymond green, he goes, he doesn't go around underneath Marcus all he goes over the top. So he can get to the right arm. The shooting arm of Kyle Lowry, if he doesn't go around that way, he doesn't get a piece of it, and maybe allow remixed that shot and we're celebrating Toronto, but Draymond green in that moment was connected to three different players and handled it brilliantly. It's a small thing, but watch again, when they show that highlight Draymond green goes over the top of Mark. Saul in a screen to get out because Lowery shooting right handed, Draymond cadet, come at him from that angle with his right hand and get a piece of that bowl, which is exactly what happened last night. Rich and Louisville, I rich would you have for me today? How are you? Good, sir. I agree with you were saying, you're right before the commercial about coming back later on. And you discounting, if the raptors would discounting the wind. A medicine you guys have done. Thank goodness. But a lot of one of the, the talking heads out there been who wants Katie went down. We're kind of going against stuff, because they were saying to be only championship that he had one without caving when the year that they be on Cleveland when Kyrie Irving and and mobile hurt. Yeah. Then, you know so they discounted that and we can't you can't go both sides. So we've gotta I it's, it's upsetting a big warriors fan for five point one. And, you know, he would I hope that people will will give when your gift Steph and play the same respect that they, they will give the raptors if the raptors to go on win and not not discounted like they did with, with. No. And they're, they're going to thank you, rich, you know, in the media, the critics are going to do that. They're the because the warriors get clicks, if you write about the warriors, and there should be an astronaut. Care or anything to do with the warriors, even if they lose or win. It's not about Toronto now with the media. It's not. And I've been saying all along been preaching all alone. You're you're missing out on a great team. A great performance here. Let's see if they can close them out if not, we add another chapter to the dynasty here. The Golden State Warriors final hour coming up. What? 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GSMC Basketball Podcast Episode 212: Probelms in Golden State (11-20-2018)

GSMC Basketball Podcast

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GSMC Basketball Podcast Episode 212: Probelms in Golden State (11-20-2018)

"Have you heard metro by t mobile now includes Amazon prime? Yes, enjoy the best of shopping and entertainment movies, TV shows music, free shipping and much more all included for just forty dollars per line for three lines all on the T mobile network. Discover the smarter way metro by t mobile that's genius one offer per account offer subject to change twelve ninety nine per month. Value offer valid for new Amazon prime members at your customers may notice reduce speeds versus some t mobile customers video at forty p capable device required. See store for details and terms and conditions. Get your ears wrapped around the Golden State media concepts basketball podcast, all the scoop, you need to know from college basketball to the NBA it even much bad zoos of your rising stars topics on and off the hard work. This is the Golden State media concepts basketball podcast. Welcome to the Chia, see basketball podcast. I'm your host Mark Susan with me, of course, as always as Jeff Mellon off. Jeff how you doing today? I'm doing fantastic. It's almost thanksgiving. I'm starving. I'm not getting until thanksgiving dinner in a couple of days. Yes. So last night. Of course, there is a really exciting NFL Monday night football game. But there is also of action in the NBA some really good games that happened last night. We're going to break those down. We're going to talk about the results. And we're the teams are kind of going from here. Also in the show today. We'll be talking about the Golden State Warriors and their three game losing streak the longest losing streak in the Steve Kerr era in the Golden State. We'll talk about the Lakers are they back on track. We'll talk about some drama, of course, staying in the Golden State, but this time with the warriors proximity rivals the Sacramento Kings is Dave Yeager on the hot seat. What's going on down there in? We'll we'll break that down. Also talk about how many teams in the Western Conference. Could logically make the playoffs. If they played in the east will also go into the wizards drama as we are. Now hearing from agent words now ski that Bradley Beal John wall, and others might be on the block a lot of drama going on in Washington DC. So we'll talk about all these things, of course, will also breakdown Duke and that big three that they have their how well are. They are doing some interesting news and notes regarding that team and the latest from the Cleveland Cavaliers, I guess unruly shooting guard JR Smith and some recent comments from him. But first, Jeff, let's get into it. Last night. We had some good basketball match matchups. First game that really stands out to me is the books and the nuggets the books take this one one of four ninety eight the bucks now twelve and four. The nuggets fall to ten and seven and yet Milwaukee wins. Again, you honest tuna Cuco twenty nine point game as he led his team. In scoring Bledsoe chipped in with twenty three a very efficient Twenty-three as he only took ten field goals last. I he made eight of them for twenty three points this books team looks really good. What do you take from this game? I take it that even though the nuggets lost this game. I still consider them a team to be reckoned with in the west, and the bucks have officially been are my opinion the best team in the east. I know that's kind of weird to say because you know, you only really see one guy that's Jaanus. But everyone else playing around him is pretty solid and this team just wins games. And the I can't I can't make it any more clear than that. Yeah. Do you know that the nuggets are now one? And six and their last seven games is a concern noodle. Concern. No, I think it doesn't matter. How poor you drop. But how you down spac if you can't bounce back from this kind of deficit. Then maybe you're not as good as we thought you were. So here are their last six they lost to the grizzlies by two they lost to the nets by two. They lost the bucks by seven. They lost the rockets by ten they beat the hawks. They crushed the hawks. They lost the Pilkin by ten and now they lost to the bucks by six. Their schedule opens up a little bit here in the upcoming games as they play the timber wolves the magic the thunder and the nuggets in their next four. You're not concerned about them because they did have a really hot start. But now we've seen them kind of fall back to earth a little bit. Well, that's kind of tough to say because I think every team has these what would you call it? Dry spo-. Yeah, they go up ups and downs of the NBA season. And I think we gotta give him an opportunity if they can bounce back from this. I know it's kind of losing streak at the moment. But let's see how things go, and let's see how they can bounce back and who they can beat and who and how they can keep their momentum from going even lower. Yeah. Absolutely, the bucks. Next opponent is the Portland trailblazers that's going to be a fun game. And you can watch that tomorrow Wednesday night bucks in blazers bucks will be hosting again there. She have their next three home as they face the blazers the sons and the Spurs in their next three. But as for the books, Jeff, you know, as we head into the end of November. Do you still see them as a top two team in the east? Toronto and Milwaukee right now lead in Indiana's actually in third place, and then Philadelphia and forth. So well, I to obviously the bucks in raptors are still a top two in the east. But as far as the rest is concerned it's anyone's game right now. Like, the seventy Sixers are still trying to find a way to get Jimmy Butler more involved in the offense, and and just on the team's sake and get them rolling and the Pacers Kahn on a momentum shift right now. But that could change at any moment. The only thing I know that can keep it consistent basis. How good the bucks and how good the raptors are. Yeah. All right. So let's move to another two teams in the Eastern Conference that are at the bottom of the playoff standings right now. But they would actually be in the place of his started today, and that of course, is the Charlotte Hornets. They win against the Boston Celtics one seventeen one of Kemba Walker is just on fire right now. He scores forty three the Hornets. They come back from behind. They win one seventeen one twelve. Talk to me what you what you are seeing from Kemba Walker. He's putting the team on his back. I don't think I think that's pretty clear but MVP right now. Right. I if it was today would he win them VP? See that's a tough one. Because there's a lot of other great players at the moment. But you know, what I wouldn't be. I wouldn't be completely shocked. If he if that's the case, he only took twenty five attempts again in other efficient night for Kemba. So he scoring points. But he's not, you know, shooting forty times twenty five attempts four to three points, you'll take that every single time. Yes. So the Hornets went the Celtics are still struggling they're they're not finding their rhythm yet. And at this point we saw Gordon Hayward play off the bench yesterday. Thirty one minutes. He only scored four points. Jeff one of six over three from three eight rebounds for assists. I know that you said earlier podcast before that we needed to take our time, wait on him zero opinion changed or used are you starting to worry about him? You know, he's had a couple good games. But honestly, he's had some disappointing games. I mean, he has struggled mightily this year, he's averaging nine points, five rebounds, three assists. But he's a max contract type player. So I mean, you know firm for a guy with Gordon Hayward. I'm sure they were expecting like twenty twenty and nine maybe twenty nine and four something like that. Again, he is coming off one of those gruesome injuries, you can have sure. So I don't know. But can we get to the all star break and go and then? Yeah, he's. Yeah. Absolutely. I am just a little bit concerned. I know it's been a year now, but. Yeah. Anyways. Let's move out. Also, an injury that like it's also a mental thing also. But I'll believe it at that. Speaking of another team that is having some struggles early on the Spurs. They will lose to the New Orleans pelicans one forty two one twenty six again, the Spurs. They're just a very up and down and they give up one hundred and forty points last night. Anthony Davis led the way with twenty nine and then holiday and more pitched in twenty one and twenty four respectively. Twenty one off the bench for Randall. And as you mentioned in our sports podcast before a triple double from Julius Randle off the bench and twenty five minutes. That's impressive. And you said this on our previous podcast. Do you think? The Lakers are missing them. And I say, probably, yeah. I mean twenty one fourteen and ten that's getting done twenty five minutes. Can you think about that? For a minute. He in twenty five minutes he had twenty one points, fourteen rebounds as he was almost averaging. What like a point of minute almost a minute. That's yes. No. That doesn't sound like a lot of that is a lot. That is a lot absolutely. But not only that rebounding and assisting. I mean, he led his he head the pelicans in assists. You're talking about a power forward who played twenty one twenty five minutes last night. So. Yeah. Anyways. Let's take a look at the Spurs in twenty one points nineteen shots again. No three pointers from derozen. Forbes starting at point guard twenty points one assist. What do you what do you make of the Spurs right now? Do you think that we are seeing them struggle? But ultimately, they'll figure it out and be a playoff team. I mean is possible. I can't how earlier we are in this season. Like, we're in the infancy and any kind of run can change momentum on a dime. And we saw that with the nuggets, and we could see this with this team. Yeah. I don't know though. The nuggets seemed to be more well rounded team, wouldn't you say, yeah. And you gotta be more. Well rounded when you're in the west who Marcus Aldridge had seven points last night, ten rebounds, only attended eleven at a pretty weak game in my opinion. But I think he's he's coming off a free eighteen year. Correct. He is an impending freezing us and he's going to be a hot free agent. Once he's in the market. Yeah. I mean, he's he's a solid player. He had an off night last. I, but you know, playing against an Anthony Davis team. Sometimes you'll you'll have your struggles. I mean, Anthony Davis is a pretty pretty darn good defender. So yeah. All right. So why don't we move on? Let's see here the cell or excuse me, really talked about that. How about the kings and the thunder the king? Kings win one seventeen to one thirteen. It was Russell Westbrook's first game back. He's missed six games. He had ankle injury. Plus his twins were born. So he missed some time to go handle that congratulations to Russell Westbrook. LS? That's understandable. Absolutely. However they suffer a loss in his first game back. The thunder are now ten and six the kings improved to nine and eight. What do you make of that game last night one seventeen one thirteen Sacramento? I think Sacramento sincere having a winning record is very unusual for them to be honest with you. And I think that's a cool momentum shift for them. Usually had been kinda always on the basement will not always they lived in the basement for the last ten years and seeing them like the warriors basement. Yeah. In seeing them rise from the grave and rise from this. The US writing a book. Yes. And. Like what did lowering you've just been impressed with their early season. Absolu-? I think everyone has okay, everyone didn't expect TB good this year. I mean, we know guy that was like said, oh, they can only get like less than twenty wins. We know God that said that and so think of the drama regarding Dave Eger, we heard a report that the kings upper management were maybe not happy with his minutes allocation to some of the younger players, and that he may or may not be you know, on the hot seat. What do you think about that? And all these rumors. You know, I think the rumor is that he's not playing his rookie enough. He not playing back lean off. But Beckley just had a double double. So I'm not sure I know he's coming off the bench for rookies. You don't wanna throw them into the fire right away. You gotta give him time to marinate, you gotta give them like be on the bench and observing. It just depends on the team to write like, the sons are playing and okay. That's understandable. The Mavericks are playing dawn suggests understandable, but the kings are winning isn't it. Yes. Working in Sacramento. And why are you gonna fire him if something's working it's like? Dunks for Xing, my pipes plumber. I'm not gonna pay you though, you make a good point. They've been winning games. They've been competitive even in their even in their losses in Bagley in Giles in particular. I think these are the two players that are probably the ones that you look at when you hear not getting enough minutes, but they've been behind Willie Stein. He's been playing very well for the kings. And then be elites a who's a veteran player. I get it. Now, be leads is not your future Bagley is but b elites has had some really good games for them this year. So ultimately Bagley played twenty six minutes last night. And he played in the crunch time. Do you? Do you think that this is all smoke though, with the Dave Eger stuff, or do you think that there's actual truth to this? It's hard to tell because the kings have done stuff like this before. Today. It's one of those things you would say that you wouldn't believe it. But since it's the kings. You do believe it, right? I guess like. Yes. Done some pretty questionable very Kingsley. Right pass. Oh, absolutely. And like, this is the thing you just cannot trust. Like, you can't you can expect the unexpected. When it comes to sacramental for sure. All right. So let's move out east Indiana Pacers. They're eleven and six they improved eleven six with last night's win. One twenty one to ninety four the Utah Jazz get smoked again, Jeff they're kind of just been one of the most disappointing teams this year. But on the other side the Pacers have been really good. I mean eleven six right now, they find themselves in the top four of the Eastern Conference. What do you take from the Pacers in this game or this season? So far. Expected start expected hot start for sure. And you know, this the east is a is a place where you can totally take advantage of how weak it is all due respect to everyone to use. But I think it's going to the fact that this Pacers team can make a dent when it comes to playoffs. Yeah. I mean, you, you know, it's the east if you get a top four seed, you should definitely when you're first round matchup. Absolutely. The Pacers have been a really well rounded team. So far this season. We look at last night. For example. I think last night is a good indication of their well rounded season, so far you have six players in double figures young twelve book. Donovan Twenty-one Turner, twelve sa- bonus nineteen McDermott twelve holiday nineteen. And then you got a guy collison Evans right on the brink with nine points in eight points respectively. Indiana's been a very good story so far, but Jeff on the flip side, the Utah Jazz. What's going on with them? They're eight and nine, you know, they're expected to be a top three top four team in the west. Some people have them higher like myself. I had them as a second best team in the Western Conference behind the warriors. What's going on with this team? What do you make of them? This that's different thing. Because they again, this almost had a nowhere to me know, this feeling Tinley command or because I felt like this team would be like middle pack jazz. Yeah. Still because they came off. They came off a great season. No doubt. But this team like everyone's like all this team could bounce back. And then they like I was starting to get on the bandwagon as soon as the seasons start like on the bandwagon. And then they go back to where I thought they were going to be in the middle of the pack. The thing is with them is that last year when they had really good bear in the lineup. They had an incredible record. They were I think the second best record in the NBA when Rudy Gobert played they struggled when he was out of the lineup. He's been healthy this year. But they've struggled is. So it goes against the logic. Right. Like, he's been healthy. And they've been bed usually when he's healthy. They're good. But Donovan Mitchell seven points last night. He he's something's going on with him. He he seems to be off. I don't know if he's just in a slump. But do you think it's like he was rookie last year? Correct. Yeah. And even in. The game before we scored thirty five points. He wasn't happy about it because he had no assists. And like a sophomore slump of some kind. It might be Rubio actually had a really good game last night at twenty eight points for the jazz. But again, they score ninety four points. They're blown out again. They just lost the game by fifty points. They lose this one by twenty seven. It just seems like their confidence is a little bit shaken at this point. Yeah. Absolutely. It just there's something something going on. Definitely. So let's take a quick break. We come back. We've got a few more games get through some teams to talk about. And also, we'll talk about the Golden State Warriors. They were in action last night. But the last time we had our podcast they have lost couple more games since then. So we'll discuss that will break that down. We'll do that. Right. After this. Have you heard metro by t mobile now includes Amazon price. Yes, enjoy the best of shopping and entertainment movies TV shows using free shipping and much more all included for just forty dollars per line for three lines all on the T mobile network. Discover the smarter way metro by t mobile that's genius one offer per account offers subject to change twelve ninety nine per month. Value offer valid for new Amazon prime members Atra customers may notice reduce speeds for some t mobile customers video at forty p capable device required. 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Key insights and much much more. It's football talk. The way you wanted this show and split ball. Don't forget to like a month spoken. Follow them on Twitter. Visit yes and podcasts dot com for more info. Welcome back to the GMC basketball podcast, of course, in the GMC podcast network. Make sure to check out the podcast network because we do other sports me, and Jeff where here with football every day sports show soccer baseball fantasy football all that. In addition to basketball, of course, so Jeff I want to continue on some of those games that happened last night. But before I get into it, man. I'm I'm really really filling thanksgiving this year. I'm getting very hungry or two days away. But man, are you excited or what this is my second favorite holiday to Christmas for obvious reasons? But I hate when people forget about Christmas. I like wasn't Christmas. I'll tell you. Why is yes? Can I tell you? Why why it's like Christmas? You got food you have family, you're hanging out. But without the anxiety of gifts lines shopping that kind of stuff. So that's why I prefer, but you. Let Christmas a little bit more. Yeah. Because I get to see some family. I don't see in a while. And I I get those this. I love the how you wake up in the morning, and you're all drinking coffee, and I even like opening the presents yet. Just like all just Jays. Yeah. Yeah. This really awesome feeling. Well, you know, what it might feel at Christmas for the Memphis grizzlies. They win again last night. They win ninety eight to eighty eight Memphis grizzlies are eleven and five. Did you see that coming? No, actually it didn't. I mean, we knew that Conley and Ghazal would be back. But man, this team has been on a roll you've been impressed with them. So far. Oh, absolutely. I think everybody has who hasn't right? Would you? Would you believe if I told you that the Memphis grizzlies have a better record, percentage wise in the Golden State Warriors? I would call you crazy. I would call you. You're mentally insane. And I must have to call the show it's heinous Harlem and get you back in there. Well, I wouldn't be wrong. And you know, it'd have to explain that, you know, take the standings because it's actually true the Memphis grizzlies eleven to five are the current three seed in the Western Conference. How about the Mavericks though, they lose seven and nine they've had a pretty decent season. That wouldn't you say? Yes. Absolutely. There's just there's consistency with them. I can't put my finger on it. But there's there's something working. There. Luca Danni has been nice the rookie had fifteen points, ten rebounds. He had a tough shooting night last night. He took twenty attempts, which is a lot score fifteen points. But he's been normally efficient for them. Obviously. He's young. He's going to have some off games. Have you been impressed with his game? Oh, absolutely definitely shoe in for not a shoe in but dividend contended for rookie of the year. A big big contender? Would you say is a front runner right now? Yeah. I have to say so consistently based. Yes. Honestly, Margaret Bagley. Third is also putting his his hat in there. Eytan Don sich, of course, trae young to his had some good games. And as we know tree young has that green light. I mean, he plays on a team where he's going to be able to shoot as many times as he wants. He has the ball in his hands a lot. But speaking of trae young Jeff the hawks they lose us night one nineteen and one twenty seven of the clippers but trae young twenty five points, seventeen assists. That's a lot of assists. Yeah. Twenty five point seventeen assists for tree young. So his numbers are going to be big this year. I think he's starting to figure figure that he can't have a great shooting game every single night like he's been shooting at an nausea almost and he's figuring out that maybe I should pass war. I think he's trying to figure out how what is game should be any figuring out pretty well. The clippers though they get the win one twenty seven to one nineteen there. Now eleven five they are another team that percentage points have a better record than the Golden State Warriors. How impressed are you by the clippers season thus far? I'm pleasantly surprised because I think everyone thought they were at the bottom of the west. And honestly, they're above the Lakers. So. It's almost a parallel universe. Yeah. I agree. I saw them being, you know, maybe eleventh in the west or so I thought they'd have a tough down year, but man Tobias series twenty four points, eight rebounds last night. They got incredible production off the bench. Scott eighteen herald twenty-five Bojan twelve Wallace to Lou Williams sixteen that's all off the bench last night. So the bench actually outscored their starters. Do you think the Cooper's will be able to keep this up? Clippers giving this up that is to be determined. Because as deeper this season goes, we see who the real guys aren't who the phonies are so, yeah, let's talk about the seventy Sixers a team, you know, some people think that they're one of the contenders in the east. They've had you know, a tough start. They're getting back on track their twelve and seven they won last night one thousand nine hundred fourteen Joel Embiid had thirty three points and seventeen rebounds. He I think he made it a point last night to really show de'andre eight and what it's like to play in the NBA and. Yeah. Eight and had a decent game, seventeen points nine boards. But obviously Embiid wins that head to head matchup. Do you think the Sixers are on the right track? Now that they have Jimmy Butler. Well, this is the this is the part of the series were part of the trade where this is put up a shot up time where they need to be. Least make a deep playoff run with this. Or you know, this season's a bust. This is just as chamber Chipper bus time time now with Jimmy Butler Bower had sixteen points in thirty two minutes. He only attempted nine shots. But last night. The Sixers were definitely led by she him in Allen Iverson together. I did not they hugged, and they swept they actually in the locker room, they swabbed jerseys at sign each other like the NFL. So I thought that was pretty cool. Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Jimmy, we're as the acclimates more to the seventy Sixers I think has role grow as I mentioned, he only attempted nine shots last night, three rebounds one assist. But yeah, I mean, he's obviously going to have to be the difference maker for that team. If they're going to go for but in terms of last night. The last game that I like to talk about is the Cavaliers hand the pistons Detroit eight and six they win one thirteen one. Oh to the Cavaliers are now two and thirteen Jeff are they the worst team in the NBA. Isn't that a question? Visit a question or is it pretty obvious. Well, I mean, the hawks just as bad are they to what the record speaks for itself. I mean Cleveland is at two and thirteen the hawks are at three and fourteen. So you have a point. But at least the hawks have tree young, right? Yeah. True. But he's inconsistent and some point in his in arcs of also Satan, a real, which is pretty crazy. Okay. So you'd say it's close. Yeah. I would say it's close. I just record speaks for himselves. Yeah. As for the pistons, very and six. The tough ten games stretches. Our foreign six in their last ten, but they still look like a playoff team to me in the Eastern Conference. Would you agree with that team leisure and conference? Yeah, they're the fifth seed right now the thing is like the east is so not as good as the west any team can make the playoffs in that conference. Now, would you would you agree with that? Except for maybe Cleveland. Yeah. I mean, we'll the hawks to write the hawks in the and the cows are probably out. But would you say that every team in the Western Conference could make the playoffs if they were playing in the east? Yeah. I even the sons. If there's sometimes the schedule of the east, then I would say, so I think so because scheduled Isa's way easier than schedule the west, I'm sorry. It is teams like Houston, Utah San Antonio, Sacramento. Those are all on the outside looking in the west I think they'd all be in the playoffs in these one hundred percent. So let's move onto the Golden State Warriors. They have not been playing. Well, they're on a three game losing streak that is the longest losing streak in the Steve Kerr era. They lose to the rockets one oh, seven Eighty-six the Mavericks won twelve one. Oh, nine and the Spurs one. Oh, four ninety two. They go winless in the Texas. Triangle? Is there cause for concern with the Golden State Warriors right now, I love that Texas triangle lover. You know, losing like beating you're like, oh, they never done this before. Losing this many games in a row? I would say like there's something different in this season compared to the others. One hundred percent, we know about the drama. We know about dream on in Durant getting into it in Curry's been injured, which I think is a bigger deal than all of this stuff. But do you think that the drama in the locker room could affect them from winning the championship this year? Is there is certainly a rift when that be nicer everyone else, and they can be. I mean, there's certainly a rift like in this room. And I think it stems I don't think it's just between two people. I think dream kind of the voice of the warriors and Durant is. I don't know he's rubbing people the wrong way. I think is not just dream on. I think it's other. So what do you think about that? You know, this whole dream on K D feud thing like it. You think you think it should blow out? It's blown out of proportion because it's the Golden State Warriors. And because everyone's friction that happened between them and bad things because they've been so good for so long. But I think it's still like once they get still playoffs. It's a whole different story with the whole drama insensitive to if even continues to that flung, but I still think that this boy is team is still like a championship favourite and teams that are just gonna have to somehow pull off Americal to beat them when it comes to playoff contention in playoff spots. I still think they're going to get the first seat Duran Klay. Thompson have been weirdly in a slump and at the same time to the you know, the words only scored ninety two points against the. Spurs scored eighty six against the rockets. So I think we'll see they're scoring going uptick. They put the thunder in their next game. And that's tomorrow. Where do where do you see what do you see happening this game? The thunder have been playing. Well, I'll be at. They lost us scientists Sacramento. Do you think the thunder my get the warriors tomorrow? Because of maybe the timing. The warriors aren't playing that. Great. You know, it's better probably the best time to take advantage of the warriors. Yeah. Absolutely. Like, this is like this probably the week is the warriors have been the last what four years the warriors next three games or the thunder, the blazers in the king's thunder blazers and the kings and the the blazers and the kings are about. Can beat the thunder. They could probably beat the kings. But I feel like the kings will give them a handful more than people think. But that's just my opinion kings game will be the second night of back to back for the warriors. But not a back to the king and the kings play a high fast pace as. Has said so definitely a thing. Something to think about one hundred percent. And then you've got the trailblazers the best team in the west at the moment. So I would definitely put them in a what's the word. I'm looking for. I definitely put them in a favorable matchup or yes. Cool. Let's go to a break when we return what's talking about the Lakers and see if they're back on track or if we still need to see more. Also, we'll talk about the wizards drama because. Things are not going well in Washington DC at the moment for the wizards, Bradley Beal, John wall sounds like they might be on the trade bloc. But we'll discuss those things in detail. We come back. Hey, sports fans football season's here. And it's time to get in on the action. 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He talked about the Western Conference. And if all the teams would be playoff contenders in the east. I think we agreed that they all would. What teams in the east would be in the playoffs in the west Milwaukee? Toronto indian. But after Milwaukee interro are you confident in any other team? Gone. No. L D respect, but new. It is an interesting thing that think of just a no it's a oh, heck no has as good as Indiana has been I'm not so sure that they'd have a winning record. If they were in the west at this point. Maybe they would agree with you now that they're a bad team. But we just know like a team like the Spurs are five hundred and not in the current playoff standings in the west. So we can we are broken record when it comes to the west art superior to these. I mean, we all knew that. But it just seems like it's even worse obvious. It's extremely obvious now. Yeah. The west got better. So speaking of a team in the east that's not doing so. Well, the Washington Wizards drama is alive and well in the nation's capital, Bradley Beal, John wall. We are now hearing that they are actually on the trade bloc teams are their team. Excuse me is looking to move some players. John wall had just been fined. By the organization for a verbal barrage against coach Scott Brooks that included a lot of. Yeah. A lot of a lot of words, obviously. I mean, you heard things to get find right? So especially when you use the F word at your coach. So things are not crazy. That's a big. No, no. I don't care. What I mean? What's what who else? What else would? I have. I mean, choke atas coach. I mean, what lunatic would do that? I mean. Oh, right. So I gotta ask you will John wall or Bradley Beal be traded. For the deadline, Bradley Beal be the most likely to get treated out of the two if that happens because John wells contract is so massive that I don't see another team taking that contract. That's a good thing. You mentioned his contract and the contract that you're referring to supermac super-max extension that kicks in next off season. So it hasn't even started yet, but he will earn. I think it's thirty eight forty one forty four and forty seven million over the next four years. It's it's about that. God is good. When you play a sport, and you get paid thirty eight million dollars, and then forty million and then forty four million you you can literally retire after the third season number have to work again, the wizards of found themselves though in such a tough predicament. Jeff because this deal has not even kicked in this extension has not kicked in and yet they're looking to move him. But is there a team out there? That'd be willing to take on that type of salary. For crazy. Twenty eight year old point guard who may or may not be a top ten point guard anymore. What team will be crazy enough to take a contract desperately trying to win. And what team would. So I can see the Knicks doing it. Maybe so, but then they'd have to give back forty pretty much like forty million in cap back on stuff like this before though. I agree. I'm seeing the most the most launch vehicle or the most common place to go in this situation. Who's do? This would have to be the the Knicks mate made made I could see the next trying to do this and then trying to 'cause they're trying to lure Kevin Durant there in the off seasons. I don't think they're gonna get given around. Well, they could get at least one big name player Durant. One of those players in guy. John wall might help. I mean, maybe but. What if the Knicks have John wall? Kristaps Porzingis coming back, and then Durant team would be interesting to see drain not going back to the warriors. I don't think one. I don't think I don't think. So I'd be shocked at this point. I say this whoever wins the NBA title gets. Kevin durant? No the warriors are probably going to win. They can't pay him and Klay though. That's the thing who you pay in the clay or cavern, clay, definitely, I think I'm paying clay. I know that's I know Durant. That's their guy. They drafted that's their guy. Right ranches guy that just joined onto the ship. Like, it's like when you're like get fines treasure. And then a guy decides to go. Hey, I'm going to be part of this your crew. Now, can I be part of your crew, please please pretty please. So that's that's kind of how I went. So the wizards are just in this purgatory right now where they're not bad enough. But it's hard for them to take unless they sell off some of these players, but these players are very expensive Bradley bills making twenty seven million a year. I mean, I don't know who's gonna give who's going to get these guys. We know how difficult is in the NBA to trade because of the salary restrictions. You have the salary cap. What team is looking to just add twenty eight million or forty million of their. Payroll for two players that aren't necessarily elite level elite caliber NBA Players Championship level players. We know the wizards have struggled in the playoffs with these two guys. I don't really know. If you see if another team would see something else that would make them believe. Okay. We have to get one of these players to push us over the top. So. I don't know. I think it's going to be incredibly difficult. Do you think that the wizards will have to trade a first round pick with John wall to get rid of that contract to create this cat was like too much to give up doesn't like first round pick? And you're arguably your best player. Yeah. But if they wanna have forty five million dollars flexible cap space in might be the price they have to pay. Right. I guess so. But what's what a what cost, you know? That's kind of a big cost. That's it pretty expensive. We asked me. Yeah. Man. I'm I'm trying to think I thought I don't think there's any way out of this contract. I think you brought up the Knicks. And that was interesting that made me think I don't think there's a team in the west that would be able to to one or there's an team that once stood note, they wouldn't be a team that would want to do that. So let's move onto other team another team in the east has a little bit drama JR Smith and the Cleveland Cavaliers JR Smith is publicly asked to be traded. He is now away from the team. He has left the team. According to Brian win Horst this morning. He has left the team. Jared Smith said that he doesn't wanna be bought out because he doesn't want to have his legacy. Have that on there with Cleveland? But he wants me. I don't know. I is that silly. I feel like that's silly. He says he doesn't want to take a buy out. Right. It's silly. He says he doesn't wanna take a bio because it will affect his legacy. But what you have a legacy of taking off your shirt like. Is not putting the hoop. Finals game one. Yeah, he was like this in the picture of him looking LeBron while the brand looks befuddled. That's his legacy or his time. We'd Denver or his time with New York or is time with any other teams played with. I don't know. Said I don't think the goal is to win. I'm not gonna lie. He doesn't have a legacy might Pinon. He said, I don't think the goal is to win the goal isn't to go out there and try to get as many Wednesay. Can I think the goal is to develop into lose to get watery picks? I think that was always the plan is he wrong. No, he's not wrong. That's what they basically have said. Like Zion is the guy that they want. Yeah. I mean, there's something wrong with what he's I mean. There's nothing wrong in terms of factually with what he said, I think I think he's kind of going about this the wrong way. But I mean, yeah. The Cavaliers trying to lose. I don't think anybody is going to sit there and say, otherwise, I mean this team is looking to get that number one pick draft Ziya Williamson to change the culture. They're they're looking for Zion to be the guy that replaces the Braun as the franchise player and a player that they can move forward with in upcoming years. So there's nothing wrong. We said there, but do you think that JR Smith will get traded? He's making fourteen million dollars. Do you think that there's a team that wants Jerry Smith for fourteen million dollars? No. What would I mean? What would he really like he falls in love with his three point shot? Too often. I feel like and it's not even that good anymore. He's kinda struggling from three. He's an older player seems like a problem. Maybe buyout will happen. I think that's the most likely scenario, but talking about buyouts Carmelo Anthony, we know that he just got bought out. He's still a free agent and his legacies. Danton I'm kidding. I don't know where he goes. Yeah. Right. He's agents are scrambling to find him a place. But I don't know where he goes. We've talked about this. It's hard to tell where he will land. Of course, we hear the Lakers. That's obvious. Right lebrons. There. Do you think that he would provide the Lakers anything of value? I don't see him going to the Lakers of I'm going to be completely honest with you because I just bring them up because they're you know, the obvious rumor, right? Like, it's. Yeah. I think that's that's just the I think that's every time. There's gonna be a free agent. They're good say they're going to Lakers. Yeah. It's ways right facilities e thing to say. Would you be shocked if he would be little little Braun and him play the same position? Yeah. And what does he really do the Lakers three point shooting? He's not he's not a vault. He's a volume shooter. But he's a three point shooter. Right. Everyone is said this and I'm agreeing with him. He just doesn't have it anymore. He's kind of lost. Wow. I think he's had it in my opinion. But he's kinda lost it. I feel like he might be able to add something to eighteen but it's not them. And it's probably not a team in the west again. Seems like an Eastern Conference team would look to him maybe to provide some scoring, but we'll see anyways. Let's go to a break. We come back. We'll talk a little college basketball actual talk about Duke. But we'll do that in news and notes around the college and also the NBA on a return. Introducing the amazing iphone tenants. You'll love on T mobile the most loved and wires. It's the perfect way to stay connected to those you heart most fall in love with T mobile right now and you'll save three hundred dollars store or call one eight hundred. 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Why don't we shift our focus to college basketball for a moment and talk about a relationship that is going very well. And that's the relationship between the three freshmen at Duke with that university. Because these guys are just on a mission we got Zion Williamson JT bear in Cam reddish. These three guys freshmen they might be the number one number two number three picks and he upcoming draft. Jeff, how impressive has have these three been at the college level. It's almost unfair. Like, it's almost like there's Duke. And then there's everybody else. Do you know that these three guys have outscored all their opponents combined? To seventy six to two seventy one so far. That's just those three. That's unfair. That's too good. That's there's something wrong. There. It's an insane recruiting class put together by coach K shift. Ski two seems like they're obviously the front runner. I don't know how this team loses. When it counts that'll be. It'll be something to see. That's for sure. But man, these guys continued not just to score. But they put on a show. I mean zion's out the lettuce ISM. I mean, we we've seen you know, the shooting of reddish was on display last night bear it kinda does it offer this team. It's something to behold. Who's going to take down this team? I couldn't tell you. It looks like that. That's not gonna happen any time soon. But. Dino that Duke if these three players are picked in the top ten they'll be the second team in the last fifty years three picks in the top ten. That's impressive to say. The least. Yeah. The other school to do. It was Florida in two thousand seven do you remember any of the players from that team? They have the number three pick taken in that draft number seven and the number nine, I do not can you remind me one is a Boston. Celtic can I carry knowing as number one? No L Horford. Forgot about him. The number seven pick was Corey brewer. And the number nine pick. I think is the person that people identify that for two team with the most. Center in the NBA played for the bulls for a while a lot of hair. He wants. It came Noah. Yes, he had a freak out ARCO arena where he got he pretty much curse out everybody in a site. That was pretty epic meltdown. One of one of the most memorable ones in NBA history. Yes joke him Noah he was picked number nine. So are these three players going to pick hold on? He reminds me that he he looks like one game. Remember guy from Zelda that cried during the final four against Sweet Sixteen. They lost the comeback crying on the court. What was that guy's name by the Lakers got picked up. I got drafted by Charlotte. Podcasts at the time. That was when they had the new best basketball. You remember that we are looking basketball? They had different different material. And all that wasn't leather Adam Morrison cellophane Adam Morrison that's him. Yeah. The crybaby right forgot about him. I remember he was like the toast of the town for a while. Do you think we'll see these three players go in the first three picks of the draft reddish Barrett and Zion? Reddish Barrett ends on. I can see these teams I can see on these guys going one two three. They could I mean. Almost guaranteed. I. Yeah. Say so Baird. I can see it second. And then reddish he's I can shoot her to see him in top five. But I think Barrett better all due respect to him. Of course. At this point those kind of like splitting hairs zion's in be the one that gets all the headlines. He makes all the highlight plays the fancy plays. Yeah. Yeah. The big dunks. The incredible. I mean, the kid is two hundred eighty five pounds and he's like a freight train like he runs. He runs up and down the court. No one getting in his way does that man two hundred and eighty five pounds. So this last year penny. Hardaway took over the coaching duties at Memphis for college. And he has landed the number one recruit in the country James James Wiseman, the number one ring prospect he committed to Memphis over Kentucky, and he was coached by penny. Hardaway previously in high school. So. This is a big get for Penny Hardaway as he has a career in coaching. We know that he's coach of elite talent. But now he makes his way into college. So this year, the number one recruit won't be going to do. Actually be going to. To Memphis and James Wiseman. The number one ranked prospect in the two thousand nineteen he's seven-foot player from east high school in Tennessee. You know, this this kid? I mean, he's being talked about in the same kind of conversation. Some of these other great athletes seven six wingspan kill he's going to be a real player at the next level and possibly in the NBA. So big get there for Memphis as they work to get back into maybe one of the elite teams in the NCWA once again, he were maybe. Yeah. And I wanted to shift back for a moment to the NBA and talk about Marquel Foltz. He's been really struggling. Do you think he's a bus or you got asked me that? Yeah. I mean, what do you think? Do you think he's a bus? I mean now he's out again. He's having a shoulder problem. He's going to see a shoulder specialist. We know that he had problems with his with his arm last year with the shooting motion. Man. What do you think about this? Well, when he first was being drafted at a Washington. I had my skeptics I thought they were better players in this draft. And he then him and I turn out to be right? Honestly. So I'm very skeptical. Scott one I think he is a bust hate the hate to say it. But I think he is a major bust his shoulder injury sounds really odd. He has a he was diagnosed with the skep-, you're imbalance. He can shoot from beyond fifteen feet until very recently. They talked about his changing his shot, man. Like, this doesn't sound good, man. I think they do have buyer's remorse. The you know, they could've had Tatum. A lot of deep class and they traded up for Foltz. Remember, they gave pick the Sacramento Kings pick, which is Boston's. Man. Foltz recently. He he's been replaced by TJ McConnell as the backup point guard. Like, he's. He's not even. The backup right now. He's not even the six, man. And you have to wonder what his injury. With his confidence when he'll get back guys that we've seen guys like Jayson Tatum deer and FOX we've seen Donovan Mitchell, really really play. Well, even ones oh bowl, even though he struggled. He's been better than full. I mean, he's actually played full is only played only fourteen games last year. He he hasn't played much. He is very like. Usually, you're like this guy. Let's see what he can do. Well, we haven't even got to see what he can really do. He hasn't played a full season. He I don't think you'll ever play full season because he so injury prone like this injury. Greg oden? Yeah. Absolutely. So I guess we'll see what happens, but you have to wonder if. If they really missed on this pick, and we won't know for at least another year or two, but it's definitely looking good. And I would be very concerned if I was a Sixers fan just looks like it was a wasted opportunity. And you know, they could really use a player right now though. That's the difference maker. This team is good and beat is good. They have Jimmy Butler. They have other players. But man, if they could only get something, you know, an addition Simmons as well, if they could get something else would really be a boost. But we'll see if he comes back anyways. Jeff, I think we're done here today. Man. I thank you so much. Joining us everybody have a great thanksgiving tomorrow. We have a special show though. Yes. Yes. We do. We do. And we will not tell you what it is. Because. Surprise, join us then. Yes. To the Golden State media concepts. That's part of the Golden State media concerts. 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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 546: NBA finals Warriors vs Raptors, NBA News, Lakers

GSMC Sports Podcast

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 546: NBA finals Warriors vs Raptors, NBA News, Lakers

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We got the Toronto Raptors. Game. One is tonight. And the first thing that I noticed about this. Was how it became one of those things where Canada had really just gotten behind Toronto and you hear about Drake and you see Jurassic Park and all the people that are surrounding, and then I saw the survey that was done. And it shocked, the crap outta me actually it didn't shock the crap out of me, but it's surprise me. There was it's obvious that Canada is behind Toronto, but there was a survey done, and they pulled all fifty states of who do you want to see when the NBA championship? And I was surprised. Forty seven states out of fifty pick Toronto. So not only this Candida want to see Toronto win. But the United States wants to see Toronto win. So forty seven of the fifty states. The only two states that voted for seeing Golden State Warriors win again. Was California and the Vada which pretty much everybody in Nevada. They're kinda from California pretty much majority of the people are Californians or close enough considering I live in California here. And the one thing that made me think is. Why is quiet Leonard even thinking about leaving their already in the finals? They have a really great team. And the one thing you get when you play for Toronto is you get the love of an entire country. Canada is going to love Kawai Leonard forever. He has a chance by winning this championship. Quiet Leonard kid, be the king of Canada and the king. Of the United States, having to countries that back you that means. You are instantly a global icon, you look around. And even when he even when he retires Canada will still love him. Matter of fact, thence Carter left Canada, and they still love him. So it is something to think about seeing what I'm seeing here. I don't think you could get that anywhere else. Toronto has lost their mind over the Toronto. Raptors Canada has lost her mind over to Toronto Raptors and it makes for a very interesting. Series here. Now when you start diving into the game. You start thinking, okay? What are the keys to winning this game? And I'm also going to tell you guys who I think is going to win. And I'm gonna tell you why. When you think about Golden State Golden State's plan is early on is not necessarily the shutdown Kawai it's gonna be to play solid defense. On everyone. But if qui- gets off he gets off. They're not going to try to control quite early on allow him to do with. Why does. But as the game gets late the big thing that they're going to try to do is. Try to really press Kawai in the fourth when a coup. Why is? At its most dangerous allow him to burn himself out in the first second and third quarters. But in the fourth quarter start pressing him put dream on on him. Putting clay on him double teaming him forcing the game plan is to force the ball out of his hands and force guys like Marcus oil or Fred van Velde to beat them, but not let Hawaii Beetham in fourth. They don't care if choir goes off, for forty in the first three quarters as long as they force that ball out of his hands. In the fourth quarter that is the game plan that Golden State is gonna go with now Houston, not Houston. Sorry about that. Toronto. Their game plan say Houston on the brain because of all the talk about the trades and trading their entire roster off which we'll talk about shortly. After this segment here. But in order for Toronto Liu wen Toronto has to be smart. And that means slow the pace down, you can't beat no one can beat Golden State by having a shootout. If it's. If it's if Toronto if it's one fifteen to one twenty I'm until you. That is a loss. The game plan is to slow the game down. Make it a tough gritty game. Playing solid defense. The big thing is to pace coli Leonard, you don't want Hawaii going off, and burn himself out, like James harden, did an which you spend so much energy in that first and second third quarter, but then can answer to Bill in the fourth quarter and that's exactly what Golden State wants to do. So being able to slow the pace down. Make it a measure pace make the game a very tough defensive game cannot give up. They're going to have to play solid defense. They can't play them the way Toronto played Janas. Where? You let you let him get open for threes because Golden State is degraded. Three point shooting team in history. If you start pushing them back, but you're not covering that thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen foot shot, Golden State will kill you not to mention the next thing you need to do is no matter how big of lead, you have you cannot get lax with them. You have to consistently. Play solid defense throughout this whole series of throughout the entire playoffs. Golden State has been behind. And in numerous occasion, ten fifteen points down, and they just come back and win, because they can close a gap, so fast just one little period of time where you're lax and Toronto can look see a big giant lead disappear. Just like the trailblazer saw just like the Houston Rockets saw. It's about playing consistent and that's the reason why they have to pace himself. They got a slow this game down. Make it so that it becomes a war of attrition where it's they want this game to be. Ninety five ninety eight you wanted to be, so you don't want to be. In a run up and down the court type game because that benefits. Golden state. Now, when you think about this, when I started looking at this, and I say, who do I think's going to win and why? I look at this game and. I am taking Toronto to win the series. And this is the reason why. First off. Golden State has been off, they're actually going to be they've given up field advantage to Toronto this year. That homefield advantage is going to be big. It is going to be crazy. The energy is going to be high. I clearly expect Tronto to win game one. With that boogie cousins is coming back as well. So Golden State where they had this rhythm. That was working really well for them. Now they're going to have to figure out how to work in Marcus cousin. This isn't. The regular season. This is one of the tough things that even Steve Kerr was saying if it was a regular season game one we just put them in there and just say the heck with it. He's playing twenty twenty five minutes. Until we work him in, but this is the NBA finals. And if you try to force boogie cousins into this into this game it's gonna throw off the rhythm necks, if Toronto goes up game one they figured out they win game two. Now you have a situation where they're going to bring. Kevin Durant back. Now, you gotta figure out how to work in Kevin Durant, and DeMarcus cousins into a team who has been flowing through the play offs because they haven't been there. So now you're trying to figure out how to work these guys back in. And yes, they had been playing for a while. But these are seven footers and they have to work themselves back in the game shape. They have to they are. They're both also coming off of lower extremity injuries, which means being able to loosen up joints and muscles. Just getting into that, that rhythm getting in game shape is going to take longer than the playoffs is going to be around. It's enough to really throw things off. And that's the reason why I am taking Toronto to win in six games. Now with that being said, if Kevin Durant was one hundred percent health in Marcus cousin was one hundred percent healthy that went through the playoffs, and they were totally playing like the Golden State Warriors were playing before the injuries. I would've taken Golden State all day and five or six games. But the fact that you're going to try to introduce one to two players into the series. I think is going to be a little more than Golden State is, is going to be able to do clay. And, and Steph curry is not going to have the same. Openings that they were to that they're used to having because the whole flow is going to change it changes differently when Kevin Durant out there. It changes differently when Marcus cousins is out there DeMarcus cousins fills in a lot more in the middle where Draymond green likes the cut and drive down to the whole. It's takes time. Yes. They're used to plan that way. But it takes time to adjust back to once you've been playing this way without these guys to adjust with them. In that adjustment period that takes it into a situation where you could literally see a situation where they're down to going back into. Oracle in the bay area and Durant comes back and now you're trying to really force grant back in that could get them into a whole. This is the reason why I am taking. Toronto Raptors to win and six and it is confirmed. The DaMarcus cousin will be playing in tonight's game. I'm very curious to see how much he is going to be playing in this game. But like I said you heard it here. I got the upset I got Team Canada. Who's gonna win the Toronto? Raptors gonna win in six games. When we come back, we're going to talk about a team that didn't win at all at all. Matter of fact, it's time to blow the team up. We're gonna talk about the Houston Rockets and the fact that there are more is just made a statement about the fact that the entire team is officially on the clock and available for trade stay tune, we will be back. Quitting your burgers of a coffee table. 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Clint cappella PJ Tucker. Eric gordon. Everybody is up for trade now he did stop as far as say it be kinda hard to believe are hard to imagine a situation where they would trade James harden, but pretty much. Everyone else is fair game. And when you start thinking about that. And you say. Wow, that's a shocker. And I look at this, and I say, why, why break this team and I know the flush ration- is cannot get past Golden State. But I tell you that the best decision is the state, of course, the best decision is state, of course, because there is a very, very good chance that Kevin Durant will not be with the with the Golden State Warriors next year. That changes the whole dynamic, and the team currently constituted could be good enough to win a championship. Now. One of the things if I was gonna make a change with the Houston Rockets. It would be to get rid of dantonio, Dan, Tony system has been proven to fail. When it comes to play off time I remember looking looking at Phoenix. Couldn't do it. New York couldn't do it Lakers. Couldn't do it. He that offense you have to be able to play defense, you have to be able to rain in James harden. And that's the big thing, big problem, when it comes to the Houston Rockets, when it comes to the playoffs James harden, has no, no control. No one has teaches him how to play well with others. And what I mean by play. Well, with others, is that simple fact that whenever the ball is being handled by. Chris Paul, the offense is going through Chris Paul pay attention. He shuts down. He is not engaged when they're on defense. He's not engaged. In order to win a championship. You have to be engaged on offense at all times. When you're on when you're in the playoffs, and you're trying to contend for a championship you have to play defense. You, you look at the warriors and you say Steph curry may not be the greatest defensive player, but he tries to play defense and the rest of the team is one of the best defensive team is one of the most underrated things about the Golden State Warriors, is the fact that they play solid defense, and they play solid defense for four quarters. That's the reason why I say. Get rid of Dan. Tony also another reason why you look around, and you say, Dan, Tony is the best decision. You're not gonna get anything for Chris Paul. The only thing you can do is either just get rid of Chris Paul. Because when you look at Hardin and Chris Paul's contract next year they count for seventy percent. Of the team salary the year after that they count for seventy one percent the year after that they count for seventy three percent. Chris Paul by the time his contract's up. He's twenty seven. He's way passes prime. He's already past his prime. Are you really going? Do you, do you really see anyone that is trying to make a run going to acquire a hundred and forty million dollar contract? When you look at this team and you say the Houston Rockets, have one of the highest payroll, if not, I, I'm don't quote me on this, but I think they may have the highest payroll and basketball if not they're one of the top three teams at the highest payroll. But here's the biggest problem when you look at this team, they're the oldest team in NBA when you look at the look at the contracts and you say a year and, and Chris Paul is about one hundred twenty four million three years left on it before hundred twenty four million. You got Chris Paul at thirty eight point five million dollars. He's already thirty four. He'll be thirty five by the time the season by the time midway through the season. The next year. He's thirty six. He's thirty seven by the time they finally get out of that contract. It's a poison pill that I don't think there's anyone that's going to want it. James harden. At thirty seven point eight million. He's aged thirty. But if you trade James harden, what do you have left with his team? James harden, is not going to go anywhere. There Lakers aren't going to go and say, hey, the Braun for James harden. I've heard that talked about, there's no way the Lakers are gonna do that. So when you look at that James harden, his staying Chris Paul is staying because no one's going to want Chris Paul. He's an older player with a hundred and twenty four million dollars left on his contract, and he's lost two or three steps the track of one is Clint Capella at sixteen point four million twenty five years old. That is your most attractive piece, but he's also the piece that is the most attractive. But he's also the most promising peace at only sixteen point four million. It's he's under multiple years contract. Young. Why would you get rid of Clint cappella Erik Gordon at fourteen point one? He's thirty one years old, PJ, Tucker, PJ, Tucker's attractive piece. He's thirty four but only eight point three million. That's an attractive contract, then as at three point eight he's thirty seven and then as far as Rath picks go. They don't really have any major draft picks to speak of, how do you break this team up without destroying the team? I feel like any move that you make. To redo this team, which is too old, and too expensive just set yourself up to destroy a potentially championship team because without. Steph curry, do you, not give the Houston Rockets shot? Do you not give the Houston Rockets shot against Toronto? Raptors because I do. So break in his team up, I think is a bad decision but. You have a situation where they'll Maury is desperate for championship. And he is willing to do whatever it takes to get a championship. 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In the last segment, we talked about the Houston Rockets, and how they're they're warriors decided that his time to break the team up. Even though they're cash-strapped and the oldest team in the league. And their most attractive piece that they would want to get rid of. It's Chris Paul who's too old into expensive. And James harden is a piece that would just blow the franchise up. If you get rid of him. So they're in a rock and a hard place. I suggested getting rid of Dan, Tony the coach. Speaking of changes to an organization. There is a guy who everyone is starting to put the pressure on. And the recruiting pitch. Has come to Cairo Irving. Last week. There was reports the brawn James had dinner would kyri Irving. Magic Johnson talked about how he would like to see Kyrie Irving come to Los Angeles Lakers. And now. Word comes out that Kyrie irvings mentor the guy he looks up to the most is now recruiting kyri to come to the Los Angeles Lakers. That is Kobe being Bryant the Black Mamba. The one person that has a lot of say and he has a lot of career Vince respect. Is Kobe Bryant. He's talked about that Mamba mentality many times. This is very interesting situation because there's there are some reports saying that. The two front runners are the Brooklyn nets and the Los Angeles Lakers and that the Knicks have fallen behind and it's looking close to those two teams. And if that's the case if you're looking around and you're saying. What do you want between Brooklyn and the Lakers? Yes, you can say the Lakers have a lot of drama going on. But the Lakers are set to win Chiriqui go he can go back and join what LeBron a person that he knows a person that he has had a lot of success with a guy that he has realized that he handled wrong and has contacted him in policies and MRs what he had with the Braun. But this wouldn't be Cleveland. Situation because of the fact that the Lakers would have LeBron they would have kyri but an interesting thing, if kyri did go to the Lakers. You would have a situation where right now. When you look at the Lakers, they only have five guys on their roster. That's it. They have LeBron James. They have Lonzo Boral they got Brandon Ingram cow Kouzmin and Josh heart Rondo and the rest of the crew are gone. They can go out. If Kyrie came there, they got plenty of room, if they wanted to keep the current team in tat. They could go for some and one Brown, Brian with some shooting you could bring kyri and you can bring Seth curry not Steph curry, but Seth curry, you could go after JD Rettig or Trevor REEs, or Danny green in which you could actually put together a team. With Lonzo kyri ball Ingram curry JJ, Rettig, or Riza, where you'd have the shooting carrying LeBron would handle the ball that is a championship team there or option. Two is you could package up ball or Ingram Kouzmin, you can pay in the fourth pick, you could either put one or two of them you two or three of them, you can package them all and end up with their own personal, big three, which number of executives are starting to. Think there's been word the number executives are starting to think that the Lakers, we'll get a big three that they're gonna get Anthony Davis Carey in the brawn James in Los Angeles. And then that is a championship team to speak of. We're gonna take another break. When we come back. We're going to talk about Anthony Davis because we were just talking about how he would be the perfect fit. When we come back, we're gonna talk about that. Stay tuned, and we'll be back. Seven eleven has more drinks than times. You've been caught singing in your car and randomly stored in your brain combined. Choose from flavour-filled slurpy, and big gulp drinks, Chris coconut water energizing cold. Brew and hot coffee. 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Nets in the Los Angeles Lakers for where kyri wants to go the lend his services. When you think about it. And you say you look at the pieces that they have if kyri went there with the Braun and kyri you could package up a deal that would send LeBron Jane Meena, Lonzo ball or Brandon Ingram or cow Kouzmin, or Josh hard are all for those guys minus LeBron that is to New Orleans pelicans for Anthony Davis. That is a very interesting. Team. That's a team that could win and. Especially with the news that David Griffin who has been consistent saying, consistently saying that he thinks he can get Anthony Davis. Stay. Well. David Griffin met with Anthony Davis had a nice little meet and greet just to introduce himself. What the purpose of showing Anthony Davis that this is not your old New Orleans pelicans. We got Cihan come in and you and Zykon Zion will be this force to reckon with, and how they've, they've really improved their medical staff is no longer using a foot of football team's medical staff. The New Orleans Saints. They have their own how they're all these improvements. That's going on. But. After the meeting. When you start looking at things the word Gat back. The day of notified David Griffin that Anthony Davis has not changed his mind. He wants out of New Orleans. This is putting. A techy situation because there's a limited time on, how long you can hope keep this going on David Griffin wants to have another meeting with Anthony Davis to pitch him on how we want you to stay what we can do to keep you here and what we can do to make you this global star. With zion? But it's not working. Anthony Davis wants out the damage has been done. He has been a star and a little market. And he wants to go to L A, or New York. There's talk that Boston is interested in New York is talking about packaging up Vetter pick that third pick and whatever they can do, but I still tell you, if you take personal feelings aside of what the New Orleans pelicans or front office feels about the Lakers. The best offer out there is what the Lakers can put together that fourth pick, and you pick your guy between heartened, coups Mon and Ingram in ball. That's a team that you could turn things around and really start your franchise going in the right direction. You would have Zay on. Let's say you, you know, and you add those Lakers pieces, and that's a solid rebuilding organization right there. But if they in, I feel like David Griffin has this approach that I can wait to the trade deadline to get rid of him? But if you wait to the trade deadline, the offers that are going to be available are going to be significantly less. If kyri goes to the Lakers, which I do think he's going to go to the Lakers. If kyri goes to the Lakers, and it's LeBron kyri and coups Mon and Ingram and balls, healthy, and they're really light in the world on fire. You could have a situation where all of a sudden those offers that were put out there are no longer there. And you may have to settle on an offer or send him somewhere that he doesn't wanna go. An end up with a fraction of what you could've gotten because you could fleece the Lakers right now and get pretty much that entire young core for Anthony Davis, the Lakers won a big three and they're willing to give up everything to get it. And I think I think the New Orleans pelicans should take it with that. We're going to be rapid. We're going to wrap things up here because we got the game that's going on tonight. Very look looking forward to it as I have the Toronto Raptors winning this game game one. I also have them winning the series in six games. I'll be back on tomorrow to tell you if I was right or wrong. No matter what, I'll be here. With that. 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Golden State Warrior Andre Iguodala

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30:56 min | 1 year ago

Golden State Warrior Andre Iguodala

"This episode without fail is brought to you by we work. We work creates beautiful flexible workspaces for companies of all sizes. Whether you're a team of one hundred four thousand schedule a visit today, just go to we work dot com. Giving them media. I'm Alex Bloomberg. And this is without fail. The show where I talked athletes artists entrepreneurs visionaries of all kinds about their successes and their failures and what they learned from both. I was recently talking with my co founder Matt about this thing that sometimes happens lately. So, you know, our company Gimblett is four years old. But we still find ourselves in positions. All the time where we don't quite know how to act. Yeah. I think a lot of I'll walk into a lot of situations. I've never been in in the company and be thinking like, oh what what is what is leader supposed to do in this situation. Like how is? How is a person in my role supposed to behave. I do the same thing. God. 'cause you don't you've never done it before it. You don't have really a role model. And so you're just like what do I do? What do we do here? Right. And like, and I find myself thinking like should I be doing this away that I'm not doing when I lived in Chicago. I also used to think a lot about like what would Michael Jordan do? Like. In in the context of your life. Like, how would Michael Jordan edit this radio story? Yeah. But I would think like now that's winner. I wanna be a winner. What would he what would he do? I have not even joking one of the things. I do think about it in situations is I think about ski racers if you watch ski racers in like a big downhill where you're taking like big huge turns at like sixty eighty miles an hour. And you know, the course and what they do is they visualize the race. And so they you'll see them actually by the start gates wearing skin tight clothes. It's freezing cold. They're completely alone and exposed up on a windy mountain. And they'll be standing in the snow, their knees are bent, and there you can see them visualizing in their head. Here's how I'm gonna take this turn. And here's how to take that turn. And because they've done it so many times, and they by visualizing, it they are then able to make it real. And that I do a lot. Not that. I like if I have as big situation, I'm heading into like a big meeting or a difficult conversation. I will I will in vision. How it's going to go multiple times that I'm prepared for all like what could happen. I didn't know that about you. Got four years. Yeah. Still learning about each other. Then some often prepared for what may happen. But the drawback is then I'm not that open and present to what else could happen. And I don't get that emotional. I'm pretty much like okay now, there's this turn in that turn in this turn in that turn as opposed to like being. Being open to what other determines there could be living in the moment. Living in the moment. Do you think sports is a metaphor for life? But I I'm not sure. I've I've often thought not. But I did have a conversation which we're about to plan the show with someone who made me think in certain places, it may be a metaphor for life. I talked to Andre Iguodala basketball player for the Golden State whereas world champion, and he was also a sports as a metaphor for life skeptic. But then his mind was sort of he came up with the way in which it actually it actually is in and we have actually got to talking about that. And I became convinced. Oh. There's a new dynasty. Golden State Warriors champions once again back to back titles team, the Golden State Warriors have won the NBA basketball championship. Three of the last four years. The routinely called one of the most dominant teams in NBA history. Their star players like Steph curry and Kevin Durant are cultural icons on TV commercials for brands like Nike and Under Armour their jerseys or some of the NBA's best selling the arena where they play in Oakland sells out every game. And Andre well, not the face of the team has been called the super glue. He was the most valuable player of the twenty fifteen championship putting him in elite company with Michael Jordan, Larry Bird and Koby Bryant. Andre is also one of the sport's world's biggest investors. He took an early interest in it and has made investments in companies like apple tesla and Facebook, here's the big tech summit for athletes, and he and I had a wide ranging conversation. We talked about what it's like to play for a team when everyone loves you. What's like to play for team? When everyone does the opposite of you. And we got to a definitive answer on the question that Matt and I had our spurts really a metaphor for life. And I actually learned a real life management. Listen that will keep with forever. So without further ado, here, it is my conversation with Golden State warrior, Andre Iguodala. When did you realize, I'm a good athlete? Young age. Yeah. How how would you know? Oh, no seven eight how because I was like good at every sport came natural like I play shortstop. So you don't evolve in baseball, right? Play quarterback and receive from foot Mon one end catches throw the ball. The soccer team actually wanted me to be goalie high school not doing that. Andrei was so good at so many different sports that it took them awhile. Just to realize how great he was at Pasco ball. But eventually he caught the attention of big division one schools and then be NBA in two thousand four after a breakout season at the university of Arizona. He entered the NBA draft. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the NBA draft at the theater at Madison Square Garden in New York City, home of the Nixon the WNBA's liberty who's twenty years old and the way the draft works for non sports fans. It's just like on the playground. When you're picking teams for dodgeball, each NBA team takes a turn and the person who gets picked I. That's the best player. You want to go as close number woman as possible. Ideally in the top ten unlike playground dodgeball, though, not everyone who wants to play gets picked each year. Many many players looking to go to the NBA they go undrafted Andre though, he was projected to go pretty high. I was projected anywhere from three to like six. So everybody's telling you, you're gonna go, right? So we get like seven having a picket. So I'm like, man. You know, someone sex expectations for you. When you don't know what to expect? And it was like are you a bust? You know what I'm saying? Like you had like crazy thoughts. Like am. I gonna get picked. Really, right. You know, so Toronto comes at eight cameras on me. I'm in. That's how you know you in drafted to cameras come on. And I'm like Toronto I didn't work out with Toronto and all that stigma being in Canada. So I'm like nervous like no way. Rouge was behind me. No one knows that name. He was behind me and the hits the one that got picked. So so they're not get picked with the ninth pick in the two thousand four NBA draft, the Philadelphia seventy Sixers select Andrei eagle dollar from the university of Arizona. And then I don't know how to feel like that. I go to late of questions are going to get when you get picked you're gonna stay shake hands. Then you you see the draft. These are talking to interviewers and reporters right there in his life. Yeah. There's a lie feed right there too. So you can hear yourself. So soon as I get done. I do a little interview. I heard dig Bitel legendary announcer dick right now, he pops up. He goes crazy. I can't believe Sixers picked them this guy. But right. Oh my God. Right. So big by Taiwan. Crazy. You broke down stats and Sony shot. Nineteen percent from three just athlete. No basketball game dollar could dominate on. Collegiate level. I love his athleticism. But he averaged twelve points a game and a fast paced game with our Zona shows, you the thin this this draft when a guy is a lottery selection at it can't dominate in college as rented I hadn't smoked to by two. Two years ago. I run into him. Yeah. I know he doesn't remember. Yeah. Came up in poverty is. Oh, really? That was crazy. Are you kidding me? You can't use like sorry. I got you wrong might you. Remember that that was thirteen years ago? I was only one remembered it. Yeah. But I didn't bring it up to him. He's approached me. And I was like that's pretty cool. It was cool when the apology came but back on draft night two thousand four it was really confusing for Andre and something of a harbinger for what was to come on his new team, the Philadelphia seventy Sixers see the Sixers. They've been coming off a pretty good run consistently going into the playoffs and even making the finals behind their beloved superstar Allen Iverson, but Iverson everyone can tell with nearing the end of his career and all is run the seventy Sixers new draft pick Andre dolla to be the new superstar of the team and Philly too tough place to play. It's a huge sports town the passionate about their teams and in two thousand six two years into Andres tenure and Philly Allen Iverson was traded and the press is. Zeroed in on Andrei demanding that he fill everson's shoes. And letting them know every time he didn't typical headline is it would Allah overrated or reliance on Dala defies logic headlines called him a little Dipper and a second fiddle high behind Alan Iverson, my first two years, and I was big here. Like I like to joke around half funny. They was like yo play too much. I've been hearing my whole life. You know, joking around like I like to have one joke around. But when he left it was like, you know, the main guy takes the blame. I g Andrei and KC telling you he is not making no big planes. Tear. The Sixers are promoted him as this is our star player guy. That's go to take it to the promised land. He's not that guy. Why does he think he's Kobe Bryant when he's not Kobe Bryant? But he's not a number one option. He can't manufacture his own shot. So to me, he doesn't shoot. Well, he's I was fighting against them every night. It was like them being the media. The fans are more soda the media. You know, you kind of like you trying to prove them wrong. And it's like wait why I'm trying to prove your own proof editing, Rome. So every night, I was going against them. When I was going the other team, you know what I mean I had a game teammate. Reggie Evans was like man, you got your teammates are open dog capacity ball you shooting too much, and I never shot that much right? Like, I was never guy shot too many shots. But I was planning is the media man thirty tonight 'cause you're getting hammered in the media for not getting enough point. Right. So I'm like, so I'm like, yeah. And I'm the only that Reggie like man, we're going to lose. They're gonna blame me. So I'm just trying to make sure we win. Really? I was in Philly like you got to win. So I was like trying to win right? So. It kinda shaped everything that you did it could shape your life. It's funny like nine you're mentioning that like have heard before we're just sort of clicked with me when you were saying is like how public your job is right? Like you. You don't I don't have anybody watching me do my job on a day-to-day basis? And if they were they'd be like, wait why why? While you watch that video right now, you should be like, you know, you should be really preparing for this meeting. Right. You know what I mean? And if somebody was like just watching me every single second I was doing my job. And then writing about it, right? Like, that's crazy. But then someone will say, well, that's what you get paid for right? Some athletes are able to. Tune it out and make some great. But at the same time, some athletes are able to lock into it here it and use it in in this great. But in the opposite. Some some guys will block it out and bothers them still because it's still right there and some players look into too much and affect them. Was there like a moment that you think back on Philly that was like the absolute like where it was just like this was my worst moment here. Cursed out a lot and like street like walking down the street. I kidding me. Is funny. I thought it was funny. Gimme a time. I was originally bri- my team teammate. Okay. He came out to food for the first time. In. He was gonna come to a game. We hang out. So I'm telling Richard McBride like. If somebody says to you just be cool. He's like what what you me? I'm like man we lost last night. So kinda hectic. He's like he's like this is your town right left out. He was with his then girlfriend. So she wanted to go to the museum. So he liked bro. You're going through the museum we doing some sophisticated you eating. You ain't we cut that out of the museum like, bro, we go into the museum. I notice where we gotta walk because we like downtown. So we gotta walk. I'm like, somebody says something just be cool. So we went to the museum in Adamy like at a body. It was dope in walking down the street in his do walk past saw me. And just if you mother effort like you sorry mother f he was like he was like, yo like what he was like, yo man was really good these people. And then I got a couple of Scouse. He was like, yo, man. Like, I thought you were joking like he just started. Adding he was like man, we had this thing where I'm from you call it that we say that's Li like man that's Li like minez crazy to the highest level. And he was like maintenance we man we just got cursed out two times today. And what do you feel like that happens? Do you wanna like I was used to it at that point? And then it happened so many times so you just like years like I man I love me too. So there's a there's an interesting dynamic with Philly fans. But. But. It always gets out that I said, it's it's a tough place to play. And then when I go to their pissed at me, but I always say this as well as that I needed that. I, you know, I need to Philly to kind of mature and grow up, and it turned into a businessman after the break how Philadelphia turned Andre Iguodala into a businessman and how turning him into a businessman got him a championship. That's coming up. After these words from our sponsors. This episode of without fail is brought to you by squarespace squarespace is an all in one solution for anyone looking to make a beautiful website. And you know, when I say it website, you probably think dot com, but there's so much more than just dot com and fact on squarespace, they have this whole list of domain extensions that you can use when you build your own website. I'm just going to the page right now, you've got dot rentals dot repair. 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So I got standard and Poor's like dummy to investing in read through that learn about large cap small cap cap, you'll have a plot. And I gotta e-trade account and start investing in companies in Rudy was helping me with it. I was like apple. That's when I phones I start coming out iphone when I've to I've onto plus the ipad. And then I read an article if you had all the apple products that you've bought so you had six apple products, and in total like, I don't know three grand. If you took that money and just invested in apple and over the same period of time, this how much money you would have made. Right. So it was around that time start seeing. This is you invest in startups because you see apple stock and you see like when apple hit the market. Us like who invested in apple back, then how much money worth now? It was like who would not investors back. Then who would know who even we're the people who knew about these companies when they were just forming and how could Andre become one of them. How could he moved from being one of millions of people who trades apple stock on each raid to becoming one of a handful of people whose able to invest in the next apple he knew that Silicon Valley was the place for him to go to learn all about that. He had done some start up. Investments Betty knew that to get really deeply involved to make big moves. He's going to have to move to the bay area. And so when he became a free agent he reached out to the Golden State Warriors. And Andrea says at first the warriors weren't interested. They couldn't afford them. But then his agent worked out a three team trade and in two thousand thirteen Andre found a new home at Golden State where he was able to play for a new team and pursue his new interest startup investing. And then Rudy Email like every. And you're saying what we would like to sit down. I'm a new member of the Golden State Warriors really interested in tech space wanna know, how it works willing to do the groundwork. This warning gives them access to how things work maybe take an internship. So we went to silicone valley since all those Imos out. We got a couple responses. I sat down one company in the guy was like tell him in the back stories like stick Detroit account like that was all he said the whole meeting. He's like stick to each count. But you know, appreciate your guy invited me. But I don't think this is for you like what was that? Well, you learn this like a billionaire boys club is real like, you know, they keep people out for reason. I mean now the more militias and like right now, I don't want you to come in here because you're black right? But it's just more. So I was athlete. You know? Like, no, you athletes. You know, you guys it's different. Like, this is hard work. Like this. You won't see me coming over there. Playing basketball. Like, I haven't Turner like fellow basketball player, unfiltered. He was like, you know, it's a rapper. Oh, it's like come hoop would us compla- basketball. He was like, I'm not playing basketball. This is like one of the robbers, right? He was like. Now, what about going to studio are making beats and I'll call you and say, Amen, come lay a worse for me. You're not gonna just get on the song me. So is it similar? You know what I mean? Like right is similar is like some of these guys like you don't see me trying to coach basketball. What you go navy a land. This is what we do. We take seriously where the top of what we do. So you know, you do what you do. It was more of that by then I don't want you around here. But Andrea persisted. And eventually he found a guy at a big VC firm who taught him the ropes introduced him to a bunch of companies, but still Andre wasn't getting access to the best deals. The companies that had the best chance to become the next apple. And that's the funny thing about Silicon Valley the thing that most people don't fully understand. It's sort of the opposite of what a lotta people think people think startups, they have to convince the investors to give them the money, and in many cases, that's the truth. That was the way it was for us, for example. But if you're a super hot startup, all that's reverse. I investors have to beg to be allowed to invest in. You. The thing is lots of people have money to invest. These hot start ups are looking for investors with something else to offer technical expertise or a track record of helping build successful companies. And Andre he didn't have that much to offer besides his money. But then the Golden State Warriors win the first championship in two thousand fifteen once you start winning championships you start getting access. I know I won't come. And he would let me I wanted to get in so bad. He was when let me get in. He was as soon as we're gonna championship. I got an Email the next day. Hey, man by the clothes you wanna get in. And you make a video Instagram video with the product of of lies like it was harder to get any we expect it, but we got our foot door today Andrei and his business partner. Rudy Glenn Thomas have stakes in about twenty five startups companies like casper and the players Tribune and along the way Andrei started winning basketball championships. So he's successful in sports any successful in real life meeting. He is perfectly qualified to answer. An age old question is one a metaphor for the other is sports actually, a metaphor for real life. The answer from one of the few people who actually knows after these words from our sponsors. This episode of without fail is brought to you by the chase Inc. Business unlimited credit card when you run your business. You work all the time, and what's helpful is a credit card. That's always working to get you cash back. 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You know, you start off with a couple of people in our office. And then we went from two to four fifty people, and what we were extent Frosties every single time with needed more spice. They've been incredibly flexible unreasonable, and it's really really really hot to do that, you know. In a in a conventional office environmental see how we work can scale with your company. Good a we work dot com and schedule a visit today. That's we work dot com. Welcome back without fail and my conversation with NBA player. Andre Igwe how much of like success in sports. Does it translate? Our sports a metaphor for life. Or is it just like it's just a tone. Well, okay. So once I wanna I shave ship. And then, you know, you get invited you access to all types of things, and you get the speaker front of fortune five hundred companies you learn to make a parallel from the championship to anything in life. So is joke with guys like man, listen, man. You win the championship. You could give a speech on anything in life. So you can do anything you want. So it's funny, but in all seriousness like we made it look easy now. But they people have no idea hard. It is when a championship I is so hard. What is the hard part? What everything has to align? Like, you got the right draft picks in place. You gotta have the right timing. It's like a lifetime and work. That's what people miss is. Everything's a lifetime of work that goes into this. And then we had to go through really hard times was the hardest part about winning that first championship in two thousand fifteen. So I never got a rhythm the whole season until the finals always out of rhythm. I was like man, I'm averaging fifteen to twenty points my career, right? And I I'm struggling to get eight and I'm like is killing me, but we're winning. But it's like man like we are winning. But are we going to championship? Then is like we get to Memphis in the playoffs, and we down to one we had this number three hundred passes a more. We will win like we knew it three hundred up passes a more. We've we lost one game in the last four years. Wow. Right. So you're passes three or one hundred or more passes in the game. Okay. So I remember being a meeting. I was like Steph. Let man you best. Are shot. They're coming out the one pass or no passes, you make you make most of them. But you know, it's not making Memphis work defensive team meeting. You guys aren't passing enough. You're not making those three hundred or more of the game. That is your winning formula. Right. Right. And I told my listen you pass to me, which they going to do how do something give it right back to you with it scared to tell him that it was it like was it? Because the way he is so staff is like man, he's like is perfect as you can get to human being is Chris weird like human green. He'll you know what? I mean, they come right families, then then we'll have egos they work hard and they make a talent. And so stepping I have such a great relationship is easy to tell them something. Right. You know, saying there's no way to him. But we're respect because of who he is. So and it wasn't just him. Like clay shoes. Quick except take a quick shot dream on you know, he'll take a quick shot now. So you know, is it was a domino effect. It's like one of those things it's weird like you because you guys know three hundred passes. No. And we'll go through ten straight games with two hundred and fifty pass. In wonder why we six four seven three. And we in. Why is is human nature? Yeah. It's just human nature yet. You gotta you gotta you gotta really back in, and that's what takes having type coach that you have you know, what else like actually I was a sports as a metaphor for life skeptic because I was like there's nothing in my life. That has like I'm not doing what you guys are doing. I'm not doing. I don't have to make a split-second decision with like five defenders flying at me. In fact, split-second decisions in my life are probably bad. And like what works for me often is introspection and like trying to be like where where am I floss like slowing down? But like your story made me feel like, oh, wait there is something. And I noticed this tendency myself like when things are going wrong, you have this tendency that like. I gotta fix it. We all become sort of Donald Trump. Yes. Yes. Solve. Yes. And like what you really need to do. A specially those moments. Yes is like seek help. Yes. Go to your team. Yes. Because you can't do alone. Yes. I related story more than anything. Yeah. So people always say, how'd you sacrifice being a superstar on the brink of being super star planning Olympics? Make an all star team to be six man. I always say, listen, man, you may be engineering a back room. You don't understand the impact you have on company because some people are natural superstars some people want to be known for that. It's like listen. This is what I bring to the table, man. I want people to know that and you keep giving him all the shine. You keep giving them all the attention. And I've had CEO's coming to me and be like, man. No. This guy's really good. But I need him to just play the back row in seek the attention right now, I need him. Just do what he does. And it's gonna come in time where you can get it. But it's just not right now. And he's he's thinking about leaving or he's getting attention elsewhere. But he doesn't you know, he doesn't know his affects because it's not out in the open. Right. So I've given talks about like sacrificing for degraded good like taking a back seat. So someone else can do their get. There's right now, then they take the backseat for someone else. And the day we all wanna win. Right. And that's what that pasaden- was like, okay. I'll give it up to you. You do your thing right now. I know you're gonna get back right and give it to him. And then when we're all threats that's worn out. We are best life. There's your sports metaphor. Thanks so much for listening to that conversation with Andre dolla next episode without fail. Someone who saw big problem instead out to fix it by himself. So we went from four million students having access to forty and that's that's almost ninety percent of students in America now. And it's basically all because of you. Well, I wouldn't say it's all you wouldn't we've had I've had a lot of. There's a lot of people who. This habit. But none of them got the ball rolling. Like if you hadn't got on this mission awhile ago. I think it's safe to say that we wouldn't be anywhere close to where we are today. Yeah. I think that's fair who is this guy, and what problem would likely still be unsolved. If not for him that's coming up on the next episode of without fail. 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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 544: Drama with the Lakers, Raptors over Bucks, Remembering Bart Star

GSMC Sports Podcast

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 544: Drama with the Lakers, Raptors over Bucks, Remembering Bart Star

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The NBA finals, which will be the Toronto Raptors versus Golden State, and we're gonna talk about how the raptors ended up getting there. We're going to touch on the big story to just Cana came out as a report. Detailing some of the crazy things that have been going on with the Los Angeles Lakers. The ROY Moore about rob Pelinka and Magic Johnson and Jeannie bus, and then we're gonna wanna talk a little bit. Also about the passing a Bart star. For a lot of people, they may not know who Bart Starr may not know Bart star because he played quite a while ago. But we're gonna talk about his passing and his affect one modern sports, and the NFL. And if we have a little time, we're gonna talk about the Dallas Cowboys and what's going on as far as with the heat, the heat that kind of Jason geared is going to be receiving this season. It's kind of a Super Bowl or bus kind of situation so to kick things off. We're going to go ahead and talk about how I am absolutely shocked that the Toronto Raptors actually won the Eastern Conference finals and is now going to be playing the Golden State Warriors for the NBA championship, and there's no real surprised at Golden State. It is actually in the finals. I think everyone most people most experts had toront- me, Golden State go into the finals. But when you look at most of the experts, everyone was taking a walkie the win this whole thing. Not just the Eastern Conference. But there was a lot of experts that were taking Milwaukee to win it all. And if you look at last show, we were talking about how. The first two games. It looked just that way that Toronto was mean that Toronto was kinda outmatched. Milwaukee had a deeper bench. They had better coaching. They had better three point shooting. They had better defense. They had everything that look better. And when you look at it. It was Jaanus versus Kawai. That was the only thing that was close. And then Nick nurse made a big change at the end of game to. And what he did was this is when he decided that he was gonna put quiet Leonard. Owen janas? And whatever Janas was not there. They were going to double and triple teen. Jaanus so that. They control Janas and the thing about Jaanus that they kind of notices that Janas likes to get the ball at the top of the key at the at the top of half court and then draft straight down the middle and which they just had everyone collapsed on them and take that driving to middle away from him and make him shoot mid range shots, and it almost didn't work, the first the first time when they engaged three they were just adjusting to it. They weren't collapse in down it took a couple of quarters before it started to work game three which would have changed everything from Milwaukee because they would've they took two overtimes double overtime for Toronto to win that one. Jess that change if they would have been if Milwaukee would've been able to win in overtime any at any point. They would have went up a commanding three oh lead. And this series would have been over in Milwaukee was going to the finals, but it didn't happen that way. And after game three Toronto mean Toronto never made the jesmyn to buy on Janas. They didn't make the jesmyn to how they would collapse down and kind of out, physical. Milwaukee. And once Janas was kind of taken out of the game, and he was forced to make mid range jumper after mid range jumper. His file shooting went down. Everything everyone else became. Is kind of like everything was kinda created right off of, of Janas. And so you had a situation where? Other players weren't stepping up. If you had a few other players are would've stepped up. It could have opened up the doors. A little bit more to spread things around to give us more opportunities, but they didn't just never happen. It just never came to fruition for them. And because of that you have a situation where Milwaukee who had lost two games in a row. Three games in a row. All year. Ended up losing four straight and get in a better word swept out of the playoffs. They won the first two but then it was a clean sweep from that point on four straight games. They're out of the playoffs. And now you have a situation where you have to Toronto Raptors and Drake heading to Golden State. And when you look at this matchup between Golden State and Toronto, I know, Vegas and a lot of people going to look at this and say, this is an this is going to be an easy win for Golden State. I don't see it that way. You have a situation where. The re the raptors are actually moving with. A lot of confidence. They're not rusty because they've been in a series in Golden State's been one sitting around resting and game. One is the key game one. You're gonna have a situation where. Golden State, who has been sitting around waiting on Toronto to make it to the finals. Now game one Toronto's it's gonna be in Toronto. So you're going to have to travel to Canada. They have not just home field advantage, but home country advantage. There's going to be that place is going to be rocking is going to be sharp. I truly truly expect Toronto to win game one. I, I have very little doubt. I know Golden State has been to the finals five straight times going for three pizza very Hungary, but I look a game one as a pivotal game for Toronto. They have to get game one. If if Toronto messes around though and loses game one then it's just bad news. It's just gonna be all bad news for them. But if they can take game one and even the two games at home. The one thing that they have to push for is to try to make this a rough and tumble type of a series in which it goes seven games. If it goes seven games, then I give Toronto a real shot. But at any point, if they lose if Toronto lose any of the first two games, then I get go. And state winning in this and six games. I just look at it as if they lose a game at home Theron Ming, Golden State wins goes back to oracle takes two more games. They're just a momentum. The fact that boogie cousins will be back. It would Dowell will be back. You may even get Durant later in the season for in the playoffs here. That's just way too much. They cannot fall behind Tronto has no choice. But to get off and really take it to Golden State or they have no shot. We're gonna take a quick break. When we come back, we're going to talk about that, Los Angeles, Laker drama and what's going on there? Stay tune. And we'll be right back. Tweeting your burgers a copy table. You want to eat a bird or put it on a bar full your instincts to be dubbed, for the new all American cheese, voter, fresh juicy fiefs fast tillage crispy around the edges. 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See podcasts dot com back slash football. Dash podcasts get updates. I'm college rivalries, key, insights, and much much more. It's football talk the way you want it this show sleeps and breathes football, don't forget to like on Facebook and follow them on Twitter. Visit yes MC podcast dot com for more info. Okay. We're back. We just text on a little bit about. The Toronto Raptors. Upsetting the Milwaukee Bucks. And we'll touch a little bit more about how. We think they're going to fail are against Golden State, but the big story today is the report the came out from a writer from ESPN, who had been following an interviewing Laker front office and coaches. An employee es. And boy, he had a heck of a report here. In the report, he talks about how. When you refer to Magic Johnson. There was Magic Johnson. The the face which was magic was to guide, the fun loving the guy everyone loved. And then there was even an urban was the businessman who was like, the, the cut throat businessman who on a couple of different Cajun's. Employees had panic attacks after being in meetings with him how he was kind of the he was called kind of a bully. And then there was a report in this report. They also talk about how genie bus runs this runs the Lakers kind of as a family, mom and pop type business, which is something that has already been out there. But this kind of confirmed that a little bit more than that. She has a lot of people in our ear from Kurt Rambis the genie Rambus to feel Jackson. Rob pelinka? Then when you talk about rob Pelinka. This is wonder more damning statements. The lack of trust that there was numerous accounts of how people just didn't trust them how they went as far as a call him kind of untruthful, or even a liar. Even and then there was also talk about that. Lebron James is agent. Rich Paul had unprecedented access to the teen. So that was a report at wanted to touch on that. And Magic Johnson was on ESPN and he addressed his and he denied that he's ever had a problem within employee's and. And he talked about how he had never been in to, you know, human resources. And things like that. And I still I, I think magic gives makes himself very makes himself very credible when you're when you're looking at things, and you're if you're a business owner or your manager, or your boss. Especially someone like Magic Johnson. You're used to seeing the celebrity Magic Johnson, the Magic Johnson with the big old smile. He's shaken hands. He's kissing babies. He's, he's. He's showtime. But as an executive you are, you also have a job, and your job is to get the most out of people. And when you have a situation where you bring when you come on to a job like the Lakers, you kinda get a sometimes you gotta clean house, and so if everyone's coming in, and they're thinking, they're gonna get Magic Johnson. The very nice guy and you come in and. And you make the guy that's gonna fire. You your whole opinion of Magic Johnson will change. So. When you look at that because of what the position he's in, he can't be at as an executive. You cannot be everyone's friend, being a boss is absolute definition of I'm no longer, your friend. And if you have a bunch of people that magic and magic spin around the Lakers office for years as a friend as an ambassador. He comes in. He says, hi to everyone shakes hands shows, you know, a lot of support footer Lakers, and then he leaves, but now as an executive, he's walking in that office, as your boss, and he has to make the tough decisions on. No. I don't want Luke Walton here or this executive, they're not doing the job. Right. Or maybe they're slacking off. I can't be your friend. I have to let you know, either you do the job, or you're gone, and that's part of being an executive now. Now. When you talk about the one part when that he talked about that was kinda LeBron James is agent, having unprecedented access. That was brought up in magic Johnston addressed that. And also LeBron James agent also addressed that issue when you talk about rich. Paul, the unprecedented issue. Rich Paul was in on the east coast. He was flying back to the west coast. He has Magic Johnson. Hey, do you mind? If I if I read back with you guys cross country on the plane. Well, it's not something that an executive would normally say yes, to but magic said, yes. And pretty much they just said that was a one time deal only he wrote across country one time. So I don't really. I don't really give that much. You know, I don't get that excited about the fact that Rich Paul road on the Lakers playing one time, it's not something that an agent should Norne an agent would not normally be on a team plane. But when you look at the situation, it was a one time deal they were also in the midst of trying to get Anthony Davis to come to the Lakers, which was, which is rich. Paul is his agent. I have no problem with that, especially if you're trying to make Anthony get, you know, trying to get Anthony Davis on board on, on coming to the Lakers. So no, that's not a big deal. The damning. The most damning report to me still goes what rob Pelinka? And everything that I keep hearing keeps going back to rob Pelinka when you look at rob Pelinka. And the backstabbing that Irvin Magic Johnson talks about about how. There was one person that was making that was doing the back seven he made no bones about it was rob Pelinka when you listen to other other agents and other executives and they're saying, listen, this is a guy you cannot trust. This is a guy that has no problem lying to you. And they used the word lie. Other agents other executives. Other executives who wants nothing to do with rob Pelinka where they talk about how. Wrap Lincoln towed, everyone that a Kobe Bryant was having a having dinner with he's ledger. And he had already passed away, just a lie for no reason. And the reason why say this is the most damning of all things is because. Numerous executives and numerous agents have made the statement that you cannot trust rob Pelinka that they do not wanna work with rob Pelinka. And if you're the Lakers, and you're coming off a five years, that you haven't made the playoffs, and you look around, and you're saying, hey, I want this free agent to come meet here. Well, if you don't, if you're agent doesn't want you to go there. The most likely your clients not going there, unless they go against their agent. If you're trying to make a trade like the Anthony Davis trade, and you have a situation where no one wants to trade or even talk with. Rob Pelinka it literally puts you in your organization in a bad place. And it goes back to the last part about thinking about Jeannie bus, and they talk about how genie bus runs the Lakers like a family, mom and pop business and. I feel like genie is trying to put people around her that she know that she trust that she's comfortable with. But it's kind of right now is kind of backfire on her. The smart thing to do the head a great opening magic set them up perfectly. They should have would magic step down. This was an opportunity to clean house. They should have got rid of rob Pelinka. They should have got real Luke Walton and then brought in a top-flight ojectives a Pat Riley, a Jerry. Wes. Whomever, the Lakers pretty much had their pick of any executive they want it. But that's what that organization needs. They need a top down executive and executives to come in and rebuild his organization and have it run like a well or oil machine that they were known for under genie's dead. And when you look at things right now with the draft coming up with trades that are possible coming up here. Is it time for the Lakers, digest cut bait? And just say you know what before the draft. We're going to cut bait with rob Pelinka. I say, yes, I think the Lakers should get rid of put, rob Pelinka, and then they should go out and bring in a real, president of basketball operations and a real general manager. And that way, they have a situation where they can actually go out and get some top flight. Eight free agents. Because not only do you not only are you with the Lakers, not only are you trying to get. A top tier free agent. But you have to surround LeBron was shooting. And so you have to go out and get some shooting, you gotta go out and get another free agent. And that's a lot of work for a first year general manager. Rob Pelinka again, and a free. A general manager said, no one likes and no one wants to work with. That is a recipe for disaster. The Lakers should make the move to let rap link ago and start over fresh why they have a chance. We're gonna take a little break. But when we come back, we're gonna talk about the loss of Bart Starr, stay tuned, and we'll be right back. The Starlight lounge presents an evening with the progressive box. Let's go tickling the ivories. He just saved by bundling home and auto. Progressive gonna finally by a ring for that gal of yours. Hugo, send him our condolences. Okay. Oh, there's an extra one St.. There's a third. In my. Progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates. Discounts on available in all states or situations. It's Jamie, progressive's employee of the month two months in a row. Leave a message at the hi Jamie. It's me, Jamie. I just had a new idea for our song about the name your price tool. So when it's like, tell us what you want to pay. 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Report that came out for the Los Angeles Lakers about how crazy things Guidon there with his function of the Los Angeles Lakers. And now we're going to a more somber moment here where we're talking about the loss of the late great Bart star bar star of the Green Bay Packers. Super Bowl one and Super Bowl to MVP. Bar star is was considered. One of the all time greats. He's one of the very first run first quarterbacks in the NFL, maybe not done the level of a Michael Vick type run type I x quarterback, but he was definitely considered one of the first run. I quarterbacks. When you look when you look at things and you say he was he was the seventeenth round pick and the nineteen fifty seven fifty six draft. He holds. And still holds right. That his day a nine one postseason record, which is the best and NFL history. And Bart star played in an era where before the Super Bowl and one of the things I don't like about the NFL is the fact that they started the whole Super Bowl thing. And now no one recognizes all the championships from before the Super Bowl bar star won five championships in seven years with two winning in also one like I said, Super Bowl, one and Super Bowl, too, and won the MVP in both years. And he was part of the, the hall of fame class of nineteen seventy seven. So you have one or the all time greats that we've lost. That was this weekend. And then yesterday, we ended up losing Red Sox. Great Bill Buckner as well and kind of a. I have mixed feelings with this one, very sad situation. And it's good to see everyone praising Bill Buckner now. And the Red Sox of try have tried to in the last few years of really tried to embrace him. But for very long time he was. Kind of paint it with a black Mark, because he's the guy that let the the ball drove he had the air which ends up costing Boston a World Series. And he had a black market, which everyone he was treated, very poorly for many, many years. And Boston, the media really bashed him for a long time, and it sucks. The sea. You know, now that it's gone everyone's praising him when I think a lot of people should have thought about how his he was a great player for Boston for many years and because of one play he was treated bad for decades. And this shows that. You know, you should have praised the man more while he was live. Because he's not here to appreciate the praised that you're giving him today. He was a great man. He was a fantastic baseball player. And one error does not tarnish his legacy. He's a baseball great. And he will definitely be loss. Once more we take one quick break. And then when we come back, we're gonna talk a little bit about the Dallas Cowboys stay tuned, and we'll be right back. Terry. This isn't working. Is it because I still be living with me motor. Is it because we made me Scully wives. No, I like your friends. It's the pirate. 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And now we're gonna talk a little bit about the Dallas Cowboys today. And there's a number of reports that Jason Garrett is under a lot of pressure this season that and men, I say. I think it's under he's under a lot of pressure. That's not reasonable. You cannot have a situation where you have a coach that the expectation is from the Dallas cowboy organization way. It's been implied that it's Super Bowl or bus if Jason geared does not get to a Super Bowl, then he will not have his job next year. And that is just not a real expectation. But when you look at the fact that they went out and got Amari Cooper slot receiver main at Randall Cobb for the slot. They got Amari Cooper. They got Dak Prescott they got a decoy Elliott. They the Cowboys feel like they should be favored to win. This the go to the Super Bowl minimum, go to the Super Bowl and. The one thing they haven't made change at that. They're not. They haven't upgraded is their coach and they feel like they have a Super Bowl team here. And if you do if just geared does not pull off a Super Bowl. They're going to pull them. They're gonna fire him. I don't think you can take that kind of approach. Is either he's your guy or he's not your guy? And if you're coaching by looking over your shoulder, then you're doomed, I feel like you're doomed to fail. Now do I look at the Dallas Cowboys and say are they a Super Bowl contender? I say, yes, Dallas is a definite Super Bowl contender. But. To say I mean you look at the New Orleans Saints last year. Fantastic season a top flight team, but one play change their fortune from going to the Super Bowl to sitting at home watching the Super Bowl. And so by giving by having a situation where you're saying pretty much geared get us to the Super Bowl or you're fired. There's only one team of year that gets to the Super Bowl and you need a lot of luck you need. You need a lot of talent and you need a lot of luck things have to break your away. And even when you have the talent. You can have like I said, a situation where a play OSHA wrong way what happens if an injury happens? But having the mentality that if you don't get a Super Bowl, you're gonna be fired. I just don't think it's the best way to Royal to go into a new season. If you have that approach Super Bowl or bus, I think you should just get rid of Jason gear before the season even starts. It should be. And I know Jerry Jones fills the pressure of he needs. He's getting up in age and he wants one more. He wants another Super Bowl before he turns the team over to his son. But I think as a as an owner, the only thing you can ask is, is that are we improving? And Dallas made it to the playoffs. Won the division made it to the playoffs had a first round win. Next year being this year you have a situation where the Cowboys could easily be better. But take a step back. And the reason why say that is because of the fact that in that division Philadelphia. With a healthy. Carson went could easily win that division. And you have a situation where Dallas could beat a wildcard and that division. I actually have Dallas winning that division. But would I be shocked Dallas ended up being wildcard? I would not be at all. Now, if you're an if you if you pick, if you end up being the wild card that means if you make the playoff when you make the playoffs you have to go to road road game after road game after rogue game just to make it to the Super Bowl, and that is a lot to ask any coach and any team. So when you look at things, I think the Dallas Cowboys expectations are off and it should not be that case. Rolling along with some other. Talk about Super Bowl expectations. There's also report that the Rams are actually really, really concerned about Todd girlies knee. And that it's a situation where if that knee does not heal up, you've just invested loan term. One of the highest paid players in the NFL. And he may have actually taken a step back. This is one of the big reasons why a lot of lot of teams do not wanna pay the running back. That's one or two issues at the Dallas Cowboys has having right now is about paying Zeke you Elliott. That's where a lot of drama came around with Levy on bail as far as being franchise tag. It is a risky situation. When you are paying running backs, top-flight money, money that's going to cripple your salary cap and you are really playing Russian roulette because at any point time a knee injury and achilles injury. Any lower body injury can change your fortune, and you can had go from having the, the top running back in NFL to just have an serviceable back, but you're paying him fourteen fifteen eighteen twenty million dollars a year, and you cannot afford to do that. And I feel like the Rams are in big trouble because their whole offense gets clicking and gets rolling behind. Stopping Todd Gurley putting eight eight-minute the box making life, a lot easier for your quarterback in your receivers to get open. If you do not have if Todd Gurley does not come back as Todd Gurley as we know, the Rams could be a big trouble because you look around, and you say Seattle will be tough. They're always tough. And then you have the forty Niners who or going to be a much improved team. The NFC west will if tug earliest, if tiger Leigh's knee is not where needs to be that division is up for grabs. With that. We're gonna wrap this episode up. I'm your host Tate and won't be back next. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll talk more about sports. To all have a good night. You've been listening to the Golden State media concepts sports podcast. Part of the Golden State media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like at WWW dot Jesus. 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GSMC Basketball Podcast Episode 253: Drama with the Lakers, Raptors over Bucks

GSMC Basketball Podcast

25:53 min | 1 year ago

GSMC Basketball Podcast Episode 253: Drama with the Lakers, Raptors over Bucks

"It's. At the Home Depot by ryobi one plus two pack batteries starter kit for just ninety nine bucks, and get one of over twenty select ryobi one plus tools to an eighty four dollar value free, the one plus system. Also fits over one hundred and twenty five other ryobi tools. So now going cordless is almost endless by the battery kit. He had a free tool. Ryobi days now at the Home Depot. More saving, more doing about the June nineteenth limit one per customer, while supplies last season or for details. Get your ears wrapped around the Golden State media concepts basketball podcast, all the scoop, you need to know from college basketball to the NBA at even March madness use of your rising stars topics on an off the hard work. This is the Golden State media concepts basketball podcast. All right. Thank you for tuning in to the GS, M basketball podcast. I'm your host Tate. And on this episode we are going to be talking about the crazy drama that is going on with the Los Angeles Lakers. We're also going to talk about the fact that Toronto Raptors overcame a oa-to start to come back to win four in a row to take the Eastern Conference championship. And now they are about to go on and face the five time or. Well, three time champion go on for three peop- five five finals in a row. Golden State Warriors. So to kick things off. We're going to go ahead and talk about how I am absolutely shocked that the Toronto Raptors actually won the Eastern Conference finals and is now going to be playing the Golden State Warriors for the NBA championship, and there's no real surprise that Golden State is actually in the finals. I think every most people most experts, had Toronto mean Golden State going to the finals. But when you look at most of the experts, everyone was taking Milwaukee to win this whole thing. Not just the Eastern Conference. But there was a lot of experts that were taking Milwaukee to win it all. And if you look at last show, we were talking about how. The first two games. It looked just that way that Toronto was being that Toronto was kinda outmatched. Milwaukee had a deeper bench. They had better coaching. They had better three point shooting. They had better defense. They had everything that look better. And when you look at it. It was Janas versus Kawai. That was the only thing that was close. And then Nick nurse made a big change at the end of game to. And what he did was this is when he decided that he was gonna put quiet Leonard. On yoenis? And whatever Janas was not there. They were going to double and triple teen. Jaanus so that they controlled Janas and the thing about Jaanus that they kind of notices that Janas likes to get the ball at the top of the key at the at the top of half court and then draft straight down the middle and which they just had everyone collapsed on them and take that driving to the middle away from him and make him shoot mid range shots, and it almost didn't work, the first the first time when they engage in three they were just adjusting to it. They weren't collapse in down. It took a couple of quarters before it started the work game three which would have changed everything from a walkie because they would have. They took two overtimes double overtime for Toronto to win that one. Jess that change if they would have been if Milwaukee would have been able to win in overtime any at any point. They would've went up a commanding three old lead and this series would have been over in Milwaukee was going to the finals. But it didn't happen that way. And after game three Toronto me Toronto never made the jesmyn to Kurai on Janas. They didn't make the jesmyn to how they would collapse down and kind of out, physical. Milwaukee. And once Janas was kind of taken out of the game, and he was forced to make mid range jumper after mid range jumper. His foul shooting went down. Everything everyone else became. It's kind of, like everything was kinda created right off of off Janas. And so you had a situation where? Other players weren't stepping up. If you had a few other players that would have stepped up. It could have opened up the doors a little bit more to spread things around to give us more opportunities, but they didn't just never happen. It just never came to fruition for them. And because of that you have a situation where Milwaukee who hadn't lost two games in a row. Three games in a row. All year, ended up losing four straight and get in better word swept out of the playoffs. They won the first two but then it was a clean sweep from that point on four straight games. They're out of the playoffs. And now you have a situation where you have to Toronto Raptors and Drake heading to Golden State. And when you look at this matchup between Golden State and Toronto, I know Vegas. And a lot of people are gonna look at this and say, this is an this is going to be an easy win for Golden State. I don't see it that way. You have a situation where. The, the raptors are actually moving with. A lot of confidence. They're not rusty because they've been in a series in Golden State's been one sitting around resting and game. One is the key game one. You're going to have a situation where. Golden State, who has been sitting around waiting on Toronto to make it to the finals. Now game one Toronto's it's gonna be in Toronto. So you're going to have to travel to Canada. They have not just home field advantage, but home country advantage. There's going to be that place is gonna be rocking. Toronto's going to be sharp. I truly truly expect Toronto to win game one. I, I have very little doubt. I know Golden State has been to the finals five straight times going for three Pete. They're very hungry. But I look at game one as a pivotal game for Toronto. They have to get game one. If if Toronto messes around though and loses game one then it's just bad news. It's just gonna be all bad news for them. But if they can take game one and even the two games at home. The one thing that they have to push for is to try to make this a rough and tumble type of a series in which it goes seven games. If it goes seven games, then. Then I give Toronto a real shot. But at any point, if they lose if Toronto lose any of the first two games than I got Golden State went in this and six games. I just look at it as if they lose a game at home. Theron, being Golden State wins goes back to oracle takes two more games. They're just a momentum. The fact that boogie cousins will be back. It would Dowell will be bad. You may even get Durant later on in the season and the playoffs here, that's the way too much. They cannot fall behind Tronto has no choice. But to get off and really take it to Golden State or they have no shot. We're gonna take a quick break. When we come back, we're going to talk about that, Los Angeles, Laker drama and what's going on there? Stay tune. And we'll be right back. It's ryobi days at the Home Depot by ryobi one plus two pack battery starter kit for just ninety nine bucks and get one of over twenty select ryobi one plus tools up to an eighty four dollar value free, the one plus system. Also fits over a hundred and twenty five other ryobi tools. So now going cordless is almost endless by the battery kit he had a free to ryobi days now at the Home Depot. More saving, more doing about the June nineteenth limit one per customer, while supplies last. Or for details. 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Okay, we're back. We test on a little bit about. The Toronto Raptors. Upsetting the Milwaukee Bucks. And we'll touch a little bit more about how. We think they're gonna fail are against Golden State, but the big story today is the report the came out from a writer from ESPN, who had been following an interviewing, Laker front office and coaches. And employees es. And boy, he had a heck of a report here. In the report, he talks about how. When you refer to Magic Johnson. There was Magic Johnson. The the face, which was magic was the guy fun-loving the guy everyone loved. And then there was urban an urban was the businessman who was like, the, the cut throat businessman who on a couple of different Cajun's. Employees had panic attacks after being in meetings with him how he was kind of the he was called kind of a bully. And then there was a report in this report. They also talk about how genie bus runs this runs the Lakers kind of as a family, mom and pop type business, which is something that has already been out there. But this kind of confirmed that a little bit more that she has a lot of people in our ear from Kurt Rambis, the genie Rambus to feel Jackson, rob Pelinka. Then when you talked about rob Pelinka. This is wonder more damning statements. The lack of trust that there was numerous accounts of how people just didn't trust them how they went as far as a call him kind of untruthful, or even a liar, even and then it was also talk about that. Lebron James is agent Rich Paul had unprecedented access to the team. So that was a report, I wanted to touch on that. And Magic Johnson was on ESPN and he addressed his and he denied that he's ever had a problem within even -ployees and. And he talked about how he had never been in to, you know, human resources. And things like that. And I still I, I think magic gives makes himself very makes himself very credible when you're when you're looking at things, and you're if you're a business owner or your manager, or your boss. Especially someone like Magic Johnson. You're used to seeing the celebrity Magic Johnson, the Magic Johnson with the big old smile. He's shaken hands. He's kissing babies. He's he's, he's Showtime, but as an executive you are, you also have a job, and your job is to get the most out of people. And when you have a situation where you bring when you come on to a job like the Lakers, you kinda get a sometimes you get a clean house. And so if everyone's coming in, and they're thinking, they're going to get Magic Johnson, the very, nice guy, and you come in and. And you make the guy that's gonna fighter you your whole opinion of Magic Johnson will change. So. When you look at that because of what the position he's in, he can't be at as an executive. You cannot be everyone's friend y- being a boss is absolute definition of I'm no longer, your friend. And if you have a bunch of people that magic and magic spin around the, the Lakers office for years as a friend as an ambassador. He comes in. He says, hi, everyone shakes hands shows, you know, a lot of support footer Lakers, and then he leaves, but now as an executive, he's walking in that office, as your boss, and he has to make the tough decisions on. No. I don't want Luke Walton here or this executive, they're not doing the job. Right. Or maybe they're slacking off. I can't be your friend. I have to let you know, either you do the job, or you're gone, and that's part of being an executive now. Now. When you talk about the one part when that he talked about that was kinda LeBron James is agent, having unprecedented access that was brought up in Magic Johnson addressed that. And also LeBron James agent also addressed that issue when you talk about Rich Paul, the unprecedent issue, Rich Paul was in on the east coast. He was flying back to the west coast. He has Magic Johnson. Hey, do you mind if I if I ride back with you guys cross country on the plane? Well, it's not something that an executive would normally say yes, to but magic said, yes. And pretty much they just said that was a one time deal only he wrote across country one time. So I don't really. I don't really give that much. You know, I don't get excited about the fact that Rich Paul road on the Lakers playing one time is not something that an agent should Norne an agent would not normally be on a team plane. But when you look at the situation, it was a one time deal they were also in the midst of trying to get Anthony Davis to come to the Lakers, which was, which is rich. Paul is his agent. I have no problem with that, especially if you're trying to make Anthony get, you know, trying to get Anthony Davis onboard on, on coming to the Lakers. So no, that's not a big deal. The damning the most damning report to me, still goes would rob Pelinka? And everything that I keep hearing keeps going back to rob Pelinka when you look at rob Pelinka. And the backstabbing the Irvin Magic Johnson talks about about how. There was one person that was making that was doing the back. Seven he made no bones about a it was rob Pelinka when you listen to other other agents and other executives and they're saying, listen, this is a guy you cannot trust. This is a guy that has no problem lying to you. And they used the word lie. Other agents other executives. Other executives who wants nothing to do with rob Pelinka where they talk about how. Wrap Lincoln towed, everyone demand that a Kobe Bryant was having a having dinner with he's ledger and he had already passed away. Just a lie from no reason. And the reason why say this is the most damning of all things is because. Numerous executives and numerous agents have made the statement that you cannot trust rob Pelinka that they do not wanna work with rob Pelinka. And if you're the Lakers, and you're coming off a five years, that you haven't made the playoffs, and you look around, and you're saying, hey, I want this free agent to come meet here. Well, if you don't, if you're agent doesn't want you to go, there, the most likely your clients, not going there, and let's they go against their agent. If you're trying to make trade like the Anthony Davis trade, and you have a situation where no one wants to trade or even talk with. Rob Pelinka it literally puts you in your organization in a bad place. And it goes back to the last part about thinking about Jeannie bus, and they talk about how genie bus runs the Lakers like a family, mom and pop business and. I feel like is trying to put people around her that she know that she trusts that she's comfortable with. But it's kind of right now is kind of backfire on her. The smart thing to do the head a great opening magic set them up perfectly. They should have would magic step down. This was an opportunity to clean house. They should have got rid of rob Pelinka. They should have got real Luke Walton and then brought in a top-flight ojectives a Pat Riley, a Jerry. Wes. Whomever, the Lakers pretty much had their pick of any executive they want it. But that's what that organization needs. They need a top down executive in executive come in and rebuild his organization and have it run like a well or machine that they were known for under genie's dead. And when you look at things right now with the draft coming up with trades that are possible coming up here. Is it time for the Lakers, digest cut bait? And just say you know what before the draft. We're going to cut bait with rob Pelinka. I say, yes, I think the Lakers should get rid of put, rob Pelinka, and then they should go out and bring in a real, president of basketball operations and a real general manager. And that way, they have a situation where they can actually go out and get some top flight. Eight free agents. Because not only do you not only are you with the Lakers, not only are you trying to get. A top tier free agent. But you have to surround LeBron was shooting. And so you have to go out and get some shooting, you gotta go out and get another free agent. And that's a lot of work for a first year general manager. Rob link again, and a fr-, a general manager had no one likes and no one wants to work with. That is a recipe for disaster. The Lakers should make the move to let rap link ago and start over fresh why they have a chance, you've been listening to the Golden State media concepts basketball podcast part of the Golden State media, concerts podcast network. 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GSMC Relationship Podcast Episode 222 What You Dont Know (9-27-19)

GSMC Relationship Podcast

34:32 min | 11 months ago

GSMC Relationship Podcast Episode 222 What You Dont Know (9-27-19)

"It's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind. It's pain and it's getting in between you in the life. If you want to live CD medic target your pain at its source. It's fast acting relief with active. OTC ingredients plus the added benefits of THC free hemp oil get get back to your life with CBD medic available online and that CBS these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease still the search of that one true off on the limbo in this crazy world of dating marriage which relationships well listen to the golden state media concepts relationship podcast your one stop podcast for everything about relationships Hello and welcome to golden state media concepts relationships podcast. I'm your host. John Johnson and I've entitled this podcast podcast. What you don't know that is obviously a lot that we don't know about the world about the universe about things but I'm going to limit this to a person somebody who is in your experience and you may see this person day in and day out but you experience something about him. In terms of saint mood swings and you know there's a lot that's been said about nutrition about medications that people take just just the day to day things about life can affect a person listen but when you think about the story of someone's life were they been there travels in. I think we all understand how something in our pass affects our behavior to fix our belief system that whole thing this topic was brought about today because I was having a conversation with a friend of mine and the story was and I say well. They're friend of mine. There's a new friend we both know a particular person but it is their recent experience with meeting. This person gave them the impression that wow this person isn't very nice and I'm just kinda paraphrasing there so you get the contrast housed. Now I know this very individual and I'm not saying that they are warm and fuzzy but they're not a mean person or just somebody that just has is a different cut on life and their way of expressing it is their way of expressing some people might call it abrupt but it's it's not warm and fuzzy and when you first meet someone like that and if you're the warm and fuzzy type well this person is going to be a little bit off pudding because I think we all meet someone and then try to figure out in a where's the center how do we how do we communicate with each other and in this experience that is then my friend had they just kind of felt like wow. I don't know that I'm going to really spend a lot of time talking with that person but again their take on this individuals that they weren't very nice. They weren't very friendly and I get that because there there was a time or two when I felt the same way about this person even an of course at that time. I didn't know a lot about them but I know enough about human behavior savior to settle in on a few ideas but knowing that this person isn't going to be one of my favorite people but for just for the purposes of this explanation. I'm going to explain that what was behind this perception perception of my friend. The one who had just met the person with they wanna have as little interaction but then as possible so I proposed the idea that you know what there's more going going on with this person then meets the surface and I think all of us experience people who can be a bit off putting and we probably feel in ourselves that we might like to ask a lot of questions but then you know we kind of think well that it wouldn't want people asking questions at me and my personal life and what's going on. Some things are very on the surface. You can look at it. Somebody and there are a lot of the things that are on the surface. It's you can make snap judgments about it and probably pretty spot on other things not so much because I think all of us as human beings things tend to wear a mask. We hide our hurts. Our fears and you know we parade around if we have all of our our needs met or can take care of ourselves. Were not vulnerable in all of those things see that's a mask and if you meet anybody that parades around that way just know that that's an exterior and we grow that in order to protect ourselves because there's lots of things that happen out there in the world than the way we experience and said and we don't WanNa get harmed then when you carry that as an exterior now know for yourself this if you carry that that exterior that I'm not going to be vulnerable to other people are picking up on that and it can be very pudding so if you're trying to attract someone if you're trying to be interesting trying to be attractive those kinds of things then you're. GonNa have a lot of work to do here. You'RE GONNA have to soften that up but back to my my point about how my friend interpreted this new introduction and about this person which I didn't go into a whole lot of detail in the very beginning with with my my friend and who she met or he met but it was just to explain that there's a lot going on behind the scenes about why this person behaves the way they do and the thing that happens I think happened to a lot of us is when we get a perception option our head about somebody unless we learn something. That's really significant. We pretty much. Don't change our minds about them. I always like to encourage people have an open mind and don't just settle on your perception about someone you know. They say don't judge a book by its cover. I wholeheartedly believe that and I also do believe in giving people second chances. You know they say there's. You can't change a first impression when you meet somebody ah I I believe you can do a restart a do over. I'm I try to be pretty forgiving because I tend to like that for myself because I'm sure that there are times when I have not come off as being the person. I think that I am someone I like do a restart so in that experience of learning what's going on in. Somebody else's life if they're willing to share. I think that reveals a lot about why people behave the way they do when they're really willing to share details and I don't mean just spout opinion about things because people tend to do that in general but I mean really tell something about your story meaning. If you were a little kid and and you rode your bike and you fell down in in got hurt you you broke your arm or or something significant. That's that's the significant significant stuff that people can talk about and you can learn to have some compassion for somebody that that suffered through that and it's those kinds of stories when you get down to the nuts and bolts of how people are you know how their psyche is is constructed how they're created their childhood hood. What what experiences did you have when you were in school. Did you get picked to be on the dodgeball team or the kickball team or the baseball team or the volleyball team or did you have to stand on the sidelines. Did you feel excluded all of these things shape our experience and when people are willing to share those kinds of details had it takes a while to get personal what somebody mean. Some people are just gonNA. Start talking about that right off the top but remember you have to invest yourself in that two. If you want to learn that about someone else she got to be willing to share a little bit of the details of your own life. I mean that that's that's the way to go about it but having grasped that information then you begin to learn what you don't know which could then explain that initial impression that you got remembered your oppression that you have the net and that's what we're working on here. Why you feel the way you do in through through this. I hope that we can learn to develop some compassion and not react because something doesn't set well with the first time we take a look at it and it's very easy to be reactive on those first impressions. I'm GonNa take a break. Come back and talk about this more state-owned. It's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing avenue in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind. It's pain and it's getting in between you and the life you want to live. CBD Medic target your pain at added source. It's fast acting relief with active. OTC ingredients plus the added benefits of THC free soil get back to your life with CBD medic available online at CBS. These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease. It's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind. It's pain and it's getting between you in the life you want to live. CBD Medic big targets your pain at its source. It's fast acting relief with active. OTC ingredients plus the added benefits of THC FREE HEMP oil get back to your life with CBD medic available online and at CBS these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease. UH Hello we're back this John Johnson and you're listening to the golden state media concepts relationships relationships podcast and I'm talking about what you don't know now. When I lift off I was explaining how we get a perception of someone in those those first impressions are pretty long lasting and when we want to change those impressions meaning. Let's say it's you when you've left an impression some money. You want to change that. It's quite a bit of work to do that but what what you're hoping for. Is your listener your audience. Let's let's just say it that way is going to be receptive your change because they say and it's just one of those cliches about you know. It's part to make a first impression the second first impression I think that's how it goes source something to that effect. It's very difficult to make a second first impression in by illustrating trading that it's where when you have that impression of someone. How often do we let that go and if you're not having a good experience with someone one. Are you willing to do a restart to reset experience and as I was telling you the story about a a friend of mine who met someone for the first time and didn't get very good impression. I know a little bit about that person. Who didn't give the impression? I'm just I am not using names because if they haven't listened to the PODCAST I didn't want to think that I was spotlighting them but I I think you can follow along what I know about. The person who didn't give a very good impression was that they have awesome personal challenges that definitely colors their behavior in this is something I want everyone to look at in terms of their experience with someone that you may have had even at one time an exceptional relationship with this person but for some reason things tend to going astray things tend to be going off and you don't know why you may even ask the question. Hey is everything all right but you know wooded most people do most people say yeah. I'm okay. They don't really divulge much and remember when I was talking to that first segment about how much people really I share in. If you want people to share you probably have to take the lead on that and I find that the mount the amount that you're willing to share kinda set that expectation and you can go further and further and further into this it takes time but you can learn a lot about people who will into share or willing to be a good listener about that part so in this experience that I observed. I knew that the person had health challenges which then makes them appear here to be very grumpy and not very approachable and almost for some people who who say tend to be more happy type a person like that could just seem downright mean at times and uncaring in my own experience with what someone else said you know. I felt I knew pretty well. I had an encounter someone that I had known for years in the experience that I had really shocked me because it was like I said somebody I had known for several years. I want to have a conversation with them and it was a very simple case of well. They had a couple love. Pets couple of dogs docs actually got loose and started circling me and I was a little bit concerned because our conversation as has it started out was through the security door. I was knocking saying hi Chitchat and they opened the door to come outside. The dogs got loose. They started circling around in. I was obviously very concerned and this this gentleman he didn't have control over his animals and as because I was more alarmed he got upset at me for being alarmed that his dogs actually seem to be out of control now. If you can imagine Agean I don't know these animals and they were not very nice so he was finally able after yelling at them a number of times able to get them back in the house but as you can imagine Asia it was it was fairly disturbing to be in that situation because I was I wasn't quite cornered but I was definitely backing away and his reaction to me being upset that the dogs came toward me really surprised me instead him understanding my situation. He got very upset with me now. Imagine this in in your setting when you're being say say approached by someone's Adam and these aren't small dogs and I'm talking. They were too well. It wasn't a very nice ending if you can imagine so. I just basically walked away at in say anything that I would have to apologize for later. I just said we'll something really really awkward. Just happened here. Well I later on found out from the man's wife that he had a brain tumor which really affected his ability to understand why I was alarmed in the way that I was backing away the brain tumors in the frontal lobe and for those of you that understand what that does that affects affects behavior now. I'm I'm not an expert on this in any way shape or form but I have talked to people who are and I was amazed to understand that because this wasn't the first person who I've known that had a tumor on their frontal lobe a couple of other people that I have known many years one who is actually passed away a couple years ago. I saw his his behavior change over a period of time. I mean demonstrably so that I still had a good relationship with him up. Until will he passed away but I did see the changes in the behavior and now oh I knew that this individual 'cause you know by then I had kind of educated myself as to what happens to people when tumors and especially in that portion of the brain prior to that obviously I didn't know like I said this in the first story that I was telling me about where the gentleman and the dogs were. They were pretty much going to attack me and his reaction to that. I was very surprised I really couldn't even talk to him about it. I WanNa talk into his wife learning something about what was going on for him and then was able to put two and two together because of this other person that I knew they had a brain tumor and then again find out that man with the dogs had brain tumor in the frontal frontal lobe. It affected his behavior in I say all that to help you understand you as a listener help you understand there when people people are behaving ways that just seem contrary to to what you think people would normally behave. They may have something going on in life and don't take it personal. That's part of the message here. Don't take it personal. Maybe being compassionate might be you real challenge for you at that moment especially if that individual is maybe saying something that's not very nice and it and it being directed at you that that might be really difficult but you don't have to necessarily be in reaction mode of this think about it in these terms and psychologists talk about this from time to time they say if you're having an experience with someone you say something to them and their reaction to what you're saying is just well beyond a reasonable reaction to what you're saying. They probably had some other issues that are affecting them and all came out at that that time I call that misguided anger you know they may have already been upset about something and now saw being directed you. I mean I can be very hard to take but that's something I'm going to talk about in a moment. I'm going to take a break and I'll be right back. It's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind. It's pain and it's getting getting in between you and a life. You want to live CD medic. Targets your pain at its source. It's fast acting relief with active. OTC ingredients plus the added benefits of THC see free soil get back to your life CD medic available online and at CBS these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or or prevent any disease. It's cutting into your exercise time. It's stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind. It's pain and it's getting in between you in the life you want to live. CBD Medic targets your pain outsource. Its fast acting relief with active. OTC ingredients plus the added the benefits of THC free hemp oil get back to your life with CBD medic available online and CBS. These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose. Mike knows treat cure or prevent any disease Hello Welcome back to Golden State. They media concepts relationships podcast. I'm your host John Johnson talking about what you don't know and finish that all by saying what you don't know about somebody else else because as I've illustrated in the examples of people that I've met or in her segment of somebody who had met somebody that I knew but I knew that person had a history of some health challenges and that colors they're they're way of relating to the people because in my own experience of that person I thought that some things about myself that I had merited some acknowledgement judgment for having done a good job didn't get the acknowledgement that I had expected now wasn't GonNa let that stop me being who I was does but I did realize this person speaking about had their own troubles and for what it was worth I said you know what that is going to probably prevent event them from seeing me for who I am so I had to take ownership of that and recognize it but I wasn't going to get the acknowledgement or the appreciation appreciation for ym from that individual but that's life we take and we go on but think about that from the standpoint of of yourself and if people seem not to really understand you or maybe seeing they're put off by how you're being it could be because there is something affecting you and how you're relating to them. Maybe you're not feeling well and that's to say we have to take ownership for who were being when we do that and recognize that we're communicating what we're about a lot more often and a lot deeper than we recognize is. At the time it's usually in retrospect. We might have a conversation with someone and they say well. Remember that time when you were being behaving in in a peculiar way and you might think Oh yeah. I wasn't really feeling good that day me how many times in our lives have has that happened so the the the trick here is remember that when you're having an experience of someone and things are going well. Now there are times. I think it's almost naturally I are you okay. You know people give that throwaway answer yeah. I'm fine but you know they're not. Maybe WanNa talk about it. Maybe you can get them to open up and maybe not some people are really closed off and his. I shared times. If you WANNA learn more about people than you might have to do a little bit of sharing or in to get him to open up because one of the things that I know about myself in particular is I'm not really going to say a lot less some. I find that somebody's really interested in knowing about me because it's how often do people pretend to care about. How we we feel or what we're thinking. There's I mean we're human. Beings what do we do. We do a lot of hey. How are you I mean we know. Do we really want to know how somebody's doing. Do we really want to take that time the listen what's really going on with them or do. We want to say that in his keep going on. Many people people are of the belief that they don't really want to know what's going on. They just that's just a throwaway line and is learning to have to take that beat to really listen to somebody's reaction and take the time to know the answer when you ask Hey. How are you doing wait for that reaction. See what's really going on and if they're doing okay great but if you can't essense no they're just saying am all right. Stop and pause a minute and find out what's going on. I have done that a number of times and ended really helped build a better connection between myself and people who didn't know me very well if just for the simple fact that prior hired to really asking how someone is doing dear really now sometimes we can figure it out with body language some people you can really we read just right off the top other people not so again because we all were wearing masks. We hide behind things because that's that's that's our safe space and I think we go around wondering who really cares about us because for now when you reach a point life were you you think you kind of understand some of the INS and outs he realized relationships are not very easily made and and maintain maintenance on a relationship can be very daunting thing to do in relationships suffer suffer from neglect all the time. I mean think of something that you own that is shiny new when you first got it from the time I count it if it's not wrapped in a package somewhere where you keeping it from from being exposed it's probably got some mm some tarnish on it or some dust or something like that. I am relationships are the same way they have to nurture them and by hi that you're GonNa learn what you don't know when you take the time to find out so it's about human connection is about the value of the relationship you have with someone even a stranger. I do know the power of making a difference in someone's life who you don't know the power of the smile and taking a moment to see how someone is doing. It's one of those things that I I believe you can pay it forward. I do believe in what goes around comes around and partly because it's the attitude that you carry it sort of boomerangs. It's it's it's more direct. It's not just put out there into the world like just put out there but it has to do with the energy that you 'cause or the energy that that you emit creates creates a reaction. Some people don't react the way you expect them to and you might get a little surprise. It might not be a nice surprise but I'm but for does does it. When you get the nice surprise you could be a really funky mood and then somebody reacts with kindness and sometimes you at that moment you can see yourself and how you're being and you soften it changes you. Those are the moments in life when you think about how you're being and how you could be better how you could be nicer more thoughtful and I believe in hanging on to those things that you learn in those moments because they can be very transformative remember but I said something something about don't judge a book by its cover many times those covers the exterior beat a person who has the appearance of someone who you might be afraid of Kawaipuna being one of the most insightful kindness most warm individuals that's happened to me and I have been the benefit of many acts of kindness and I'm so oh very grateful for having learned this lesson over and over and it has helped me to be very considerate less judgmental and learned something about my own biases or might preconceived notions about things an ETA very human thing to be that but I'm trying to be better at being a better example of who I want ought to be and I know that kindness really does matter it does have an effect on people so one of the takeaways takeaways here is when something's going on with another person and you. It doesn't necessarily mean that you did something wrong. They could really that'd be having a rough day and can be all about what's happening in their world and you might have an opportunity to figure out what is going on with them. They could share with you what's happening which could be very insightful and by and large could help them turn around and an mirror the kindness that you've just shown to them at the great gift and you learn what you don't know. I'm John Johnson this. The golden state media concepts relationships podcast. Thank you for listening It's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind. It's pain and it's getting in between you and a life you want to live. CBD Medic targets your pain at its source. It's fast acting relief with active. 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GSMC Health & Wellness Podcast Episode 153: Strange Ways to Stay Healthy

GSMC Health and Wellness Podcast

33:34 min | 1 year ago

GSMC Health & Wellness Podcast Episode 153: Strange Ways to Stay Healthy

"The iphone ten are is here at T mobile, and there's a whole lot of love like taking those perfect new year new portrait mode selfish. You're going to share. It's the best way to stay connected to everyone you'll heart loest in twenty nine t so get ready to fall in love with by phone ten are on T mobile. The most loved and wireless. Call one eight hundred t mobile to learn more or visit a store today. You want to be healthier yet? You just don't know what to do all these shows telling you this and that, but nothing seems to work will listen close. Golden State media Cossacks has got something. Great for you. The health and wellness podcast dedicated to work trails the eating habits, Diane everything about healthy living. Join us in our banters as we help you not just live life to the fullest. But live it to the healthiest. Hello. And welcome to the GMC health on this podcast. Brought to you by the GMC podcast network. I'm host Heidi. And today, I am talking about strange ways to stay healthy. I really wanted to do this. I guess the way. Okay. So the way that I came to this topic is because I wanted to look at some of the ways that people use to like live to stay healthy. Kinda like Iverson those pictures of like like back in the day people like standing on these little like weird exercise machines and stuff like they would just like vibrate. And you're supposed to stand on them or something I don't know like shake the fat off you or something or like people who do these like wraps around their bodies that are supposed to be warming. And somehow, I don't know I feel like all these are like melting the fat off you like laser weight loss like that. Like, you get little zap little tiny lasers you're supposed to lose weight. I don't know. I wanted to look into that. But I looked up strange like old ways stay healthy, which then just brought me to like older like senior citizen people staying healthy. And that's not what I meant. But then I found an article that was just strange ways to stay healthy. And then of course, I got sucked into reading them. And then it was like, oh, it's a sledge show. I just click to the next one and see which of course, just I got caught up in reading again so due to that rabbit hole. We are talking about strange way, stay healthy, which I think is pretty interesting. I'll have to save the strange like old timey exercise machines for later. I guess my brain just wasn't working when I typed into Google because now I know exactly how tight that in old like exercise machines. I'll be more specific. We'll see we'll see I can find it. Somehow. Maybe I like, I don't know. Maybe I saved it somewhere bookmarked a while ago. But I am excited. Talk about the strange ways to stay healthy a few of them. I was aware of many of them. I wasn't. Well, I don't know. Maybe it's like fifty fifty. I'm not sure some of them were ones that seemed counter intuitive. So I am excited to share those. I think the pretty interesting, and I hope that some of them can be helpful some of them can be kinda like easy tips to do and they're not necessarily difficult. They're just like a little may you wouldn't maybe guest them. But I think that can be helpful. And I hope you find them interesting and informative the first one that I think is counterintuitive is to drink coffee to have a better nap. I had heard of this before it still doesn't really make sense to me. But I'm just gonna share it. Because apparently it works. Apparently, there was a Japanese study that examined how to make the most of a nap people who took a coffee nap, which is what they dubbed it. This isn't air quotes a coffee nap consuming about like two hundred milligrams of caffeine, which is like the amount of two cups of coffee. And then immediately took a twenty minute nap felt more alert and performed better on computer tests than those who only took a nap. I would not think that I should drink coffee to feel rested. That's not at all what I would think. But I know that some people like people like want a nightcap for the go to bed. You know? It's like have a bit of wine or something it kinda something could almost be that like to take nap people need to take coffee needs to drink coffee. With interesting also though, like two cups of coffee. I don't want to drink two cups of coffee. I'm like immediately can have to go to the bathroom. And like, I just I don't know. But that's what they did. So that's two hundred milligrams of caffeine, like two cups of coffee, and then taking a twenty minute nap is what they're calling it. Coffee, nap, and that can make you more rested. They do say that this can work because twenty minute nap and just as the caffeine kicks in and clears your brain of molecule called n don't even know sin eater. No sin. Yeah. Which maximizes alertness, eat a no sin is a byproduct of wakefulness and activity, and this is from the medical director of the New York neurology and sleep medicine, and he says that as and annot seen levels increase, we become more fatigued and napping clears out the end no scene and when combined with caffeine wishes an introducing nosing blocker further reduces its effects and amplifies the effect of a nap. So when you're clearing this molecule, it can increase your Lert nece so by taking nap which clears it and taking caffeine, which also clears it you're just like doubling down on filling alert. So I think it's interesting. I heard about this when I was in school like everyone would be locked. Library and you'd want like take a quick power nap, but not leave your seat. So he would like you always had coffee around with his finals district coffee, and then take a twenty minute map like that a desk somewhere to put your head down and hope that no one steals, your laptop. So I had heard of it. But I don't really know the science behind it. So that's pretty interesting. This is also one that I did not know, maybe my dentist told me at some point. And I just didn't listen, but this tip is don't brush your teeth immediately after meals and drinks, especially if the drinks are acidic, or if the food is acidic, so Siddiq foods are like citrus fruits or like, sports drinks apparently tomatoes soda diet soda 'em. Regular all those things can soften tooth enamel. They're saying it's like wet sandstone which does not sound like what I want for my teeth. Brushing your teeth at the stage right after eating and drinking can speed up the acids affect on your novel. And he rode the layer underneath and it suggested that you wait thirty to sixty minutes before brushing, I definitely do this because I just wake up like scarf down my breakfast. And then brush my teeth and go, but I don't wanna brush my teeth before I eat, and I don't have that much time. So this is depressing to me because I am just roading away my teeth Amel, and I'm just concerned. I'm sorry dentist, and I'm so sorry for myself. This is just gonna suck because I already have bad enamel. So. Not how myself I'll figure out a way to do with that. I don't know. Maybe it'll push my teeth at work, then I have to carry a toothbrush around everywhere. Feels kind of weird. And then everyone by work will suffer if they don't Amelie brush my teeth. Anyway, we'll see maybe I'll keep you updated. If solution if I don't say anything just assume I changed my teeth or dying in like melting away like wet sandstone. Anyway, this next tip is it says to gain weight gain. Sorry says gain weight to wear a smaller size muscle weight, though, they're saying you want to gain muscle weight. And they're saying that if two women both way one hundred and fifty pounds and only one lifts weights. The lifter will most more likely fit into a smaller pant size then to counterpart likewise, one hundred fifty pound woman who lifts weights can very well. Wear the same size of one hundred forty pound woman who doesn't exercise. So the not saying like, you're gonna way less because they're saying way more put on more muscle, mass and MoMA. Await. But but muscle will essentially it sounds like make you leaner, the reason is that. Although a pound of fat ways the same as a pound of muscle muscle takes up less space. So you can get bigger muscles and get smaller overall. If you lose fat the bulk that many women fear only occurs. If you don't lose weight and develop muscle on top of it. So to avoid that you can cut back on calories and add to your workout to lose inches. Just pretty interesting that this makes sense, maybe I should start lifting more. I don't know. While also changing my diet, which if you listened to the previous health on this podcast, maybe if I just concentrate more on a Mediterranean, diet and cut out know so my unhealthy calories. Maybe I can try this. But again, this is a Jim related tip. So I don't know if that's going to happen. But the next tip is to eat less. Eat more again, counterintuitive grabbing one hundred calorie snack pack of something took. Pretzels, whatever. And these are everywhere in the store specially now there were in the new year everywhere that might seem like a good idea, but it is more likely to make you hungrier than if you just ate something more substantial again, this makes sense. So eating small amounts of carbohydrates. Does nothing to does nothing. But spike, your blood sugar and leave you wanting more carbs, so like just eating a little bit of pretzels real like, I'm kind of hungry. I'm not going to bunch of. I'm just gonna get a little bit of food that could actually spike your blood sugar and make you want more food. You know? That's why people serve you appetizers. They like the phrases like it wet your appetite like it just makes you more hungry. That's kind of what they're arguing here. So instead of maybe just choosing those handful of pretzels choose a protein such as peanut butter or string cheese with an apple because these are higher in calories per serving. But the protein in fat helps you get full faster and stay full longer. So you end up eating fewer calories. Overall, kind of like as. Opposed to eating lucky charms, you could eat oatmeal, which you know, makes you feel fuller longer than you don't eat the lucky charms later or you don't eat it like a snack sooner. So again, this makes sense. These are all good tips next hip skip energy drinks, when you are tired, man. These are all counterintuitive. Okay. So if you skip drinks when you're tied you may want you may feel like, oh, this will be a good idea to reach for red bull, which again bread bull is gross. That again, I have done this before I will say it again, though. Red bull is gross. I don't think it tastes good. Yeah. It's my least favorite of all the energy, drink tastes. I haven't had rockstar since like middle school. So I don't know. But yeah, it's gross. So you shouldn't drink them anyway, but enter drinks contain up to five times more caffeine than coffee in the boost. They provide is fleeting incomes with unpleasant side effects like nervousness eared ability in a rapid heartbeat and energy drinks often contain high levels of taurine, which central nervous system stimulant and upwards of fifty grams of sugar per can fifty grams of sugar per can is thirteen teaspoons. So that's a lot of sugar. I know teaspoon doesn't sound like a lot. But thirteen teaspoons is a lot. So I know I've looked into a little bit of like previous studies with terrain. They don't really know why it makes you more awake. But it I mean, it's a central central nervous system stimulant that don't know exactly how it works. But again, these drinks can make you nervous really jittery, and they have so much sugar in them. Also, the stuff the sweets. That spikes your blood sugar temporarily will really just leave to crash soon after leaving you sluggish and fungi headed and probably reaching for another energy drink, which you should not do if you're just like pounding down for like monsters, please stop doing that for your own health. It's just making you jittery and definitely increasing your sugar, and it'll just lead to a quick crash. So please, beware. Also, another one that I found interesting is to drink water when you're bloated. So I feel like drinking water is important, especially if you just had a bunch of drinks, and you're trying to flush all that sugar out of your body. But I haven't thought about it when you're bloated because when you're bloated, and then just adding more things into your body like food or water. Just sounds like a terrible idea. But when you feel bloated drinking water, of course, sounds bad. But if you're on a high fiber diet, for instance than your body needs more water to work more efficiently. So water can mix with water soluble fiber and make into Geleg subst. And this affects the Motilal of the gut and it can reduce the symptom of bloating drinking water can also relieve bloating caused by dehydration. So this when you're dehydrated your body clings to water that you do have and that can cause you to puff up. Do not know that so drinking water, of course, will decrease like if you're dehydrated wandering water, but that can also be related to bloating can help decrease bloating. And then the water mix. It slide will fiber on your body can help reduce the cinema bloating. So I didn't know that. That's pretty interesting. So we're going to get quick break. And then I'll be right back and keep talking about some more strange health facts. Still on the search of that one true love on the limbo in this crazy world of dating marriage relationships. Well, listen to the Golden State media concepts relationship podcast, your one stop podcast for everything about relationships. Welcome back to the health and wellness podcast. You're continuing to talk about some strange ways to stay healthy this next one. I feel like everyone should know this. I feel like this is already well known in society diet soda does not help you lose weight. Basically saying diet sodas like an oxymoron like it doesn't help you diet. It doesn't help you lose weight. So really, they're just lying. But if you want to lose weight, you should ditch also to including diet soda research has revealed that overweight and obese adults who drink diet beverages. Eight more calories from food than those who drink regular soda and at the university of Texas. A study found that diet soda drinkers. Had a seventy percent greater increase in weight circumference, then nondrinkers over the course of about ten years. An addition many people think that low fat low sugar or light means fewer calories. But that's not always true. Because typically when manufacturers cut something out that. The end result taste to make. And the end result. Tasters good. They've added additional sugar. So maybe you're thinking. Oh, yeah. Diet soda. Great diet, low sugar low calories. Low fat, whatever tastes good as coke or I love the taste of diet more than regular. It's usually because they've just taken out the regular sugar and put something else in it. Or they've taken out the other ingredients and put in like sugar to make it taste good or to make a taste as good if not better than the regular kind, and again, you should really just soda anyway, trying to lose weight, but you should also ditch diet, the diet is not really helping you because a lot of times, even if you're like, consuming, these diet foods, you're thinking that your, you know, you think that you can put an other calories into your body because you've been drinking diet, and that's unfortunately, not true. Also, you can be increasing your sugar intake. So please beware of that. Or other things that are not natural sugars they can be using that instead manufacturers can. And that's not necessarily better feel there. It's more processed sugars so other tip drink a hot beverage to cool off I heard about this before. But I didn't really like their reason why did make me feel convinced. So if you wanna cool off faster if you wanna think about like, oh, should I choose an iced drink or a hot one? Some studies have found that you wanna drink the hot beverage other cultures do this too. They'll drink hot tea and hot weather apparently a norm and like India because when you sip a hot beverage your body senses. The change in temperature and increases your sweat production. Then as sweat evaporates, moose can you cool off naturally. So basically, I was like so I just become sweatier that doesn't really make me feel better about this. I don't really I don't really feel like I want to drink the hot beverage because I don't want to just become sweatier. Anyway, that's what I thought about that. So I'm not sure I'm going to do that. We'll see I still like hot beverages like I can still drink hot tea and hot soup in hot weather. I stole enjoy it preferably air conditioning. But it happens. So I don't know. I'm not sure if we're gonna do to cool off though, this one is interesting. This is difficult to do. But I think very true exercise win. You're tired. Like often after an exhausting day. The last thing you want to do is workout. I definitely feel that I don't wanna work out. Just want sit on the couch, but working out can help you feel more energized fatigue along with mood and depression can be improved after a single thirty minute moderate intensity exercise session. This is Cording to a study published in the medicine in science in sports and exercise. Everything we do use oxygen. So when you exercise helps you work more efficiently. And then you don't tires easily. Also you've function better, mentally, which I have definitely found sometimes working out can help clear head make you better. It's like people will go for runs just to clear their mind. It's because it does make you often function better, mentally, and so I guess this makes sense everything you use oxygen. And when you exercise it helps you work more efficiently with the oxygen in your body. So I the make sense. I'm not sure I'm going to do it. But it's a good tip. This one is interesting hen use handwritten notes to boost your brain power. So basically, if you're gonna do typed notes handwritten notes suggesting you do handwritten. Handwritten. Well, okay. So if you're like typing notes that might help you like jot down more, but you're not you're not more likely to remember them to learn something you've to process it. And so when you take handwritten notes you process or learn more information, like if you're in a lecture situation when you in a lecture handwritten notes can help you begin to process, the lecture sooner. Also, you have to look at the page when you're writing so you're naturally going to review the material and reinforce information that you've already processed. I I don't think about it that way I usually prefer handwritten because I do think it helps remember more. But I don't think about the fact that you're reviewing what you wrote more when your handwriting than when you're typing that is pretty interesting. That's true though. If I think about it that that's usually what happens when I'm handwriting also to improve your relationship spend less time to Kenner, I don't know. I think this. Has contentious. I'm not sure everyone's gonna agree with this. But they're not necessarily saying just you're Mandic relationship. They're saying like all relationships in general. This is what they have to say about it jumping from one social event to another without any time to come up for air could sacrifice your relationships? I think so see that. If you spend time alone, you can process your thoughts, whether than act impulsively, and as you get to know yourself, better alone time enables you to to be more in touch with yourself. And then you can better give and receive. In addition, you can reduce stress and anxiety by being alone stress. Stress stress. Sorry stress. Oh my gosh. I'm just going to say eighty can contribute to relationship strains. So if you want to spend some time alone to clear your head, reduce your stress and anxiety. I got at that time like meditate gopher a walks in cafe and people watch or. You know, even like clean your house or any activity. That's alone in some form of in solitude cannot be clear mind and can in turn improve your relationships with others. So even though that sounds counterintuitive I could see that helping I think that does help sometimes. Also, this is one that I definitely support ditch antibiotic soap, so again, there were lots of different places that I got some of these tips from I really like this one if you're just going to go for like a bottle of soap labelled antibacterial that that does not necessarily reduce your risk of getting sick or passing illness onto others. There's actually no evidence antibacterial soap is more effective than regular ones. Also, long term exposure to some ingredients in these products. Apparently, one of the ingredients is try close in may pose health risks, like bacterial, resistance, or hormone effects. According to a twenty thirteen FDA statement. I could definitely see this can increase the risk of bacterial resistance because of your just killing all the bacteria in your hand. Some of it's going to live because again, it only kills what ninety nine percent of bacteria. So some of that's going to live and then that bacteria that lives report. Use and it'll just produce stronger bacteria because it survived survived the wave of soap. So it's going to produce more into bacterial, and it's going to produce more resistant bacteria. I also I didn't really know this it can contribute to her monal affects I always kind of believe this. But I didn't really have science to back it up. So I'm definitely going to use this think about buying products and more research on the effects of truck in is needed. But in the meantime, the FDA is working towards requiring manufacturers to prove their products are safe for long-term use also the state of Minnesota has banned trike, listen containing products altogether, which goes into full effect the twenty seventeen so good for you. Minnesota I feel like more research should be done into this, especially hormonal effects like really bad. So I do think they should look into this more. But yeah, again, get from Minnesota. I think that's pretty interesting. Another fact that I think is really engineer. Another tip would say is to place a music because not necessarily like planets, but like listen to music because many of us like listening to music, but research does show that listening to music doesn't just make you feel good if you'll happy it also can have a beneficial effect on the brain like maintaining memory and brain function, even as we age, and it can relax us and an uncle also can lessen feelings of anxiety, which I totally agree with. I think that's great like people just want to calm down. And they can just listen to music at a relaxes them. And I think that's great also if you've seen the new Spiderman movies Spiderman into the spider verse there's a scene when young miles who's the new Spiderman is trying to he's sticking to everything and he's trying to release from ceiling or something and Peter Parker. The older Spiderman is trying to coach him how to do it. And he tells them he just has to relax go to a happy place and to make himself, relax. He has to he like sings to himself his favorite song or whatever. Whatever song stuck in his head. And that's what helps them relax and release in his Spidey powers them released from the wall. So I mean, if you're gonna listen to anyone listen to miles Morales. I think this is a great tip and definitely proven at least anecdotally in my life and the lives of many people. I know so highly suggest music can really relax you and help reducing Zaidi. We're gonna take a quick break. And then we'll be right back and continue talking about some strange ways to stay healthy. Tired of searching, the vast jungle of podcasts. Now, listen close. And here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching, the Golden State media concepts podcast network is here thing less than podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast covered from news sports, music fashion, looking entertainment fantasy football and so much more. So stop lurking around and go straight out to the Golden State media concepts podcast network, guaranteed to fill that podcast is whatever it may be. Visit us at WWW dot M C podcast dot com. Follow us on Facebook and Twitter and download on itunes soundcloud and Google play. Welcome back to the health and wellness podcast. We are continuing to talk about some strange ways to stay healthy. I really like this one. I mean, it's kind of strange, but it's also more fun than anything. I enjoy this. And this is to watch something funny. I told and also I totally support this. I I love comedies. And if anyone listens to the GMC like movie podcast, you will know that I enjoyed comedies. And I've mentioned it before I don't enjoy extreme anxiety inducing films. But there this site that I read this off of suggests that you watch lead funny because the positive effects of laughter can be seen both on our minds and bodies and laughing helps us cope with stress in addition increases are circulation and help lower blood pressure levels. It can also aid in relieving aches and pains in muscles, which I think is super interesting. So not only does it make you feel happier because laughing often make you feel happier. But it can be good for your body to physically increase circulating help us lower blood pressure levels. And there's pretty cool. Also, I have not personally found that it relieves aches and pains because if my muscles hurt, and then I laugh, usually just hurts more. But you know, that could happen, and I could see it. But I will definitely be taking that went up really enjoy comedies and anything that makes me laugh. So I support that another interesting tip. And this is if you listen to a previous health and wellness episode, again, I talked about the Mediterranean diet and in the Mediterranean diet suggests limiting consumption of alcohol, but if you arguing alcohol it suggests red wine, so this tip is to have a glass of red wine because red wine contains good mount of antioxidants and other nutrients, it can also help lower cholesterol levels and aside from that constraint them the heart to reduce the risk of cardiovascular conditions antioxidants. Also have a role in fortifying our immune system. So really this is just so many reasons to drink glass of wine, but again, everything in moderation. So please, be careful. Another one. I also these are these are good ones that are making me happy right now built friendships, according to many studies having friends and nurturing those friendships can increase our lifespan this can be because talking to friends bending time with them relieve stress. Also our bodies influence us, whether it's for the good or bad, so friends who sorry that is not that's the word buddies, not bodies, obviously, your body's influence your life, but your buddies or your friends influence you because friends who share the same health goals, for example, usually motivate like their other friend to stay healthy. So even if you don't have to have a friend who's like a health nut, but you know, somebody like occasionally wants to the gym or maybe supposed to just sitting around all the time just maybe like going for a walk or encourage you to eat healthier that friend can really have a lot of influence on you and can really impact your health. So I think that's important and just like having friends and. Can make you happier and relates to the earlier tip of watching something funny. Like, if your friend makes you laugh all the time, if you think they're funny, then that can help help your body, mentally and physically and spiritually so. Yeah, I think that's a great tip. Like this one. Also, this is one that I think is interesting don't just brush your teeth floss your teeth to including floss in your daily oral health routine removes different bacteria that comes from food particles caught in between your teeth when these bacteria flourish in the mouth, they can cause tooth decay and gum disease and contribute to other diseases like diabetes, can you problems and ammonia that that's bad. I don't like flopping that much. I do get a little flashers. I think I should probably start buying the floss for kids that are like shaped like dinosaurs. It's more fun. And might encourage me to floss more, but brushing will not necessarily remove all the bacteria and little bits of food and your teeth and floss can get better in between your teeth which can help you in the long run. Because apparently this can lead to like way more things than I thought like other diseases like diabetes and kidney problems. I feel like going to the dentist. You see the little pamphlets that are like ominous and are like. Do you have gum disease? And they're always like, oh, I really hope. I don't because that looks really bad. I definitely feel like they're suggesting to me that it's very bad. And I shouldn't because gum to these and things like that in tooth decay, kin contribute to other parts of your health. So I do think with interesting I'm not going to pretend to be a dentist until you that I completely understand why. But I'm just going to take my dentist office word for it. And some of the things that I had read online about it. So I think that's good to keep in mind mixture, you floss don't just go to and light them about. How many times you floss? I mean, I do. I hope my dentist doesn't listen to this. I'm sorry, doctor Samra, but I should floss more. So I'm trying to encourage with to do this and not just when I feel like food to my teeth just for the heck of it. Sometimes just for my health for the sake of my health. I'll try and do it more. And that brings us to the end of the podcast. Thank you all so much for listening, and I hope you tune into the next health wellness podcast episode listening to the Golden State media concepts. Wellness podcast part of the Golden State media concepts podcast. You can find this show and others like it at WWW dot Jesus MC podcast dot com. Download cast on itunes Stitcher soundcloud, Google play just typing G as MC to find. All the shows from the Golden State media concepts podcast network from movies to music, throw, sports, entertainment and even use. 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105: Golden State! Quinn Cook feat. Austin Rivers

Road Trippin': Richard vs. Channing

57:14 min | 1 year ago

105: Golden State! Quinn Cook feat. Austin Rivers

"Hey road trip been fan as promised. We are back with the brand new episode of road trip in four you brought to you by one of the newest members of the road trip in fan, the Golden State Warriors as mentioned before Monday's episode. Kenneth Burke in Quinn cook. The warriors have joined the road trip in family and on their very first episode. They sit down with Houston Rockets guard Austin rivers, the crew dives into Quinn's NBA journey thus far Steph Curry's rise to start stardom the most underrated players to guard in the association as well as if you had to guess which musical artist coach K from Duke, of course, loves yeah. And the former Duke blue devil. He reveals it all Keira, Quinn, Austin, the warmest, welcome. It's all you guys. Thank you. Elliott's grades part of the road trip and team on carrots Burke, Golden State Warriors reporter for NBC sports bay area. And longside me is my co host Golden State point guard Quinn, cook what's up Quinn. Thank you. And joining us on our first ever road trip and Golden State version of the pod is quince former Duke teammates, Houston Rockets guard Austin rivers, what's up. Awesome doing. Thank you for having me. You know, what this podcast is all about too because you have an uninterrupted pod. It's called go off with Austin rivers as you that name. What actually originally pick the name of say what you feel? So what you feel original name, and then TD with uninterrupted ended up coming up with the I have like a mix tape in high school in the video. I said I'm going to go off. And it's like pretty funny the way I said it. So then they said while we go off like that's kind kinda came about. So now, it's I'm gonna go off. Say that to you all the time. It's ridiculous. No video. I remember seeing the video. But like saying that like, I don't remember you will game that was. Like, I don't even think I went off that game. I just think I said it because I don't even know what happened. But after that game, like I'll go places people also. Cool. All right bail joined Bill actually say they on the bench yesterday. He did in an awesome. His team mixed ball is life midstate yesterday. I remember you were watching mix tapes or ankle breakers. Do you ever tell us about vehicle breakers? Who did you study on anchor ankle breakers, the mass like the premiered like all like the best ball handlers in the league? Sly Allen Iverson was on Steve Nash. Tony Parker Baron Davis. St Francis had a couple of like bigger guards, t MAC has Grant Hill in there. But it was mostly for the smaller guys. So Jason Williams. So no, those are really no they won't VCR the time. That's how it has a dayquil break. So they kind of gave me my no love for no crossing over and kind of being flashy on the court. You're rewinding the tape. It's getting scratchy to do watch it that much. I watched a lot. I watched it a lot. No, I knew each segment and that was like oh three four 'cause I'm Brian de way to mellow rookies and had their own little piece. So that's how far bag goes. Did you watch your coming up? Awesome. Do I weigh was my favorite player growing up because he could do everything you know, defense offense could take over games. I mean, he's retiring this year and still actually playing on a high level like easy played three more years if you really wanted to but he's kind of ending on his own his own note. But yeah, I grew up in Florida that was like the due to watch. It was t- MAC. I I guess to be. Politically, correct. It was penny. I then t MAC and then once those guys left. It was away was the guy in Florida now is my whole child was doing way. That's my favorite player. Still is my favorite. I wanted to get his jersey gave him CPR. Like, I knew it was over. Man. I like, my fiance was jersey. I was like I have zero shot. Forty game as I Chris Chris jersey. Whatever. So I I was just like, man. Yeah. I I know you live this moment. So I'm gonna ask Austin? What did you think of deeds buzzer beater against the warriors? It was this season. It was filthy. It looked possible. What did you think watching the video that was that was? That would suck. Just because it wasn't like a you. Don't mean it wasn't like it's not the shining one. Anytime a guy makes them like that. Like, I don't want to call it a BS shot because it was like he just threw it up. Though, he's gonna make that you just, you know, just so fortunate you and Steph had like your arms around each other watching that I think you're watching on the Jumbotron, did you know that that shot was going to go into sues the left his fingertips. I'll be I'll do you know for him to kinda get his sub block twice and one possession. And when I saw him catch it and get his right leg behind it three. I had a pretty good feeling. It was going in. You know, we lost two games. All ready before on really really tough so shots Daimler. And obviously James harden or CU it's it's up three. So that's what great players. Do you get them and s you know, most times going go in. So it was incredible to be a part of because you know, they're going to show that clip wherever background so feel pretty good about that is I have you guys in the same room, you go back even before Duke Coon was actually saying that you might have known each other. You were ten years old plan actually have I didn't I didn't notice until I got here. What I I side here. My car was is here and my away of still has his high school laptop and on his high school at top. He has a video of all of us at the McDonalds free styling, it was me him, my car Williams, Brad Beal, and Michael mongo. And there's one more dude in there. I forgot the other guy that was in there, and we were all in their free styling they were so ill so hard. Listen to. Interesting. That. On the phone and somebody would play them. And then I listened to my versa. I try not to like. But it's I mean, that's what it is in your eyes. What you do things that you thought were the time I still freaked out now. But like, it's like fun. Like we were like really trying. Competing against guys. We were really guys we were like giving all in there. Like, Michael boggles, reverses the end this phone. Auty song who who is the worse. Mike. No question. He has the heavy Boston accent? Yeah. From what I remember? When did you guys I become friends or become aware of each other? You know, just being in the saints fear for me. I always knew about them. We actually play each other. We would say. On you know, in Orlando, actually, and you know, back then there's no social media. We don't have phones. So you just here, you know, about players like at nationals or stuff like that camps growing up. And I think we reconnected in high school at various camps top camps stuff. But you always hear about him. Obviously, he's not one in our class. No all the way up. So they we got kind of close where we USA basketball SNL Tonio wants summer. He was an older team other younger teen is team was carrier career him Martine Knossos, Brad Beal, and we stayed at the same civility. And we just got close on man. You know, after that, you know, we won't, you know, official visit together do can stayed in contact our whole year. He's a big reason why committed there he was already committed. But now he was there to whole way, you know, Durham, I recruitment and. We got you know, streaming close. Do you want to take any credit for his recruitment? How much? This started with honestly for us at Starwood like high went there, and the stigma is do quiz before that was like a lot of one and done go there and coach K likes guys stay there for three or four years. And then I went there, and it kind of changed everything and open up the gates for all the top players started going there. So then, you know, me and him went there. And then it's just been year after year now like dukes the place for one dollars to go. So I I get credit honestly to. Kyw if I really had to give credit to carry for just kinda because if you went to went there, I don't know if I was committed to Florida, and then I d- committed and when I started looking, and then I can't really speak on what you know USA camp. Coach K was down there. Working out for his man. He knows good a good a good. Decision because Ducasse amazing. Driving that forgot the car there. We what was that bus called the? We had the how you wanna tell you a story we had I had it up getting challenger. Like midway through the year. Like a dodge challenger the minivan. None of the two. What else like year college freshmen who supposed to have cars will like we were all just like, whatever it was just so I just brought it up there. We had this little random parking spot. Tony one spot parking spot. But I was on the car. So everybody news on my car, and we had practice at like six AM like college coaches, do they do this crazy shit where you practice at like six AM and. There's a to take the seat of the bus. All you. Remember transit bus take that. Or if you've got up early enough you've around with me that was like have. So Q is always curious right outside by the door. Marshall Plumlee, always be like Jobling stuff like last minute. So one time as me him. Alex Murphy in Marshall, civil foot in a two door talent, though, he got he got CD Billy to everybody and got fronts on drive it. Alex Murphy went into the backseat stress long ways, we opened up the truck. And put Martha plumbing truck. Close it trying to take that bus. He would've been a walk walk take the bus couple of stops. The buddy next is another never start where you get dropped off in this like ten fifteen minute walk. No way he would have made on time. So like, they would always ride with me, and we would have Marshall getting the trunk. We would look for every speed bump and just drive super fast, and he'd be Baxter's screen. Oh, man. I guess so angry at one time. We really willing dumb fast. These got air. He was like sooner as we never got enough to that campus. Police know your car they knew. Term police are your car. He got a challenge. Like, we'd like like right where he left, right? He got to save. You gotta read was read right knew how to bluh, bluh, bluh, bluh, bluh. Remember that? I was like that was Seth curry ever in the car for this. Oh, no, no, one knows what sift this, man. I still know what he does. Why is he such a mystery? Amid these mystery me, he's a Mercer. He what? When he started talking he will not stop like when he gets his little mode right with storytelling trash talking. I mean, not trash talk. Just like he's he's a talker. He's attacks allies. Once he gets comfortable around you once you really get to know options roommate on a row for two years. Oh, what a year and a half and he got comfortable land. You know, we create a nice little bonding. No, he talked like where was all is that where is this coming? See, I didn't know. So I still I I didn't know him like that. I never talked to Seth this the most I've talked to separately. 'cause he's my sister. Now. Y dea. Even now, you know, you get them in his bubble. Huge be like one minute he'll strike if you get if you strike conversation that really interests him. He'll start talking. He's like the Capella opposite of Steph Steph like super like outgoing in the cameras and everybody loves Steph south like super quiet, and you get in the right place in time. Like, he's way different. What do you think about the curry family's influence on NBA now like their their web their relationships that kind of thing because like you're in that family now? Oh, no, no, no, I'm in the rivers rivers fan. All right. You tell me about the current fan. Great. Great o obviously. No. I remember watching Stephan college. And you know, what he did for college basketball was fine on what's what he did for me major players and programs. I thought it was great. And know he wasn't a number one pick. He, you know, he he got drafted to go to state, and he didn't have, you know, great success right away. He no he battle with some trials tribulations of him getting injured in, you know, people no doubt him. And then you know, he took that next step in his career in. He is what he is today. You know for Seth to go and draft it and have to go to the D league in find his way to to get an MBA him finding the right opportunity and taking full advantage up because he's a great brand his own mind and not all get it from. No, Dale who had a great NBA career. So Nah, I think it's great study handles Seth. Safin's? Steph do study that curry brother hand, the negative. I was curious ask you that question because you you can compete with anybody. But as far as looking at the greats, you consider style. Look at Kirk players. I I want I like watching I like watching stuff like when they're on the especially when they probably a good team always watch the warriors place, especially since the team that we're trying to be honestly like that's the one team we feel. I mean, I'm be honest currently right now and here in Houston, like the mindset is like that's the one team. That's a head of us that we have to be off. You know what? I mean, we feel like. We feel like, you know, we. The team that can challenge them the most you know, what I mean? And so I always like to watch them just because of that let alone Steph. You know what I mean? But yeah, they he's been their family's been amazing for basketball. Steph, like, a Quin alluded to has has, you know, made it cool for I don't wanna say NF, let it because he is an athlete. People. Don't give them credit for being athlete, but you understand amongst comparing him to other players. He's not the most athletic guy in the floor nine out of ten times. And but not at the time usually the best part of the floor. And that's changed the game. You know, kids used to wanna Dunkin now kids wanna shoot three's. He's changed the way basketball's played. It's a three pointers league. Now, the fact that Steph has single handily had on the NBA is has been huge in gone state, period. They've said this trend were I mean, how the we follow that we shoot forty to fifty three game, you know, because we're trying to emulate what works and what they've had. And I think what he's been able to do off the court. Staying clean. Stay out of trouble comes from a good family. And then his wife is has her own success story has some of the best restaurants in the country. Sonia. The mom is amazing involved mother. Who's always there chanter family on? I mean, they had that like ideal perfect family that you know, the media has gravitated towards it. And it's because it's a, you know, it's just natural to do that. When you see something especially what they have of their. So I definitely commend them for that. When you guys are doing youth camps. Are you seeing eight year olds trying to Jack up threes? Absolutely. Crossover somebody either want shoot like Steph where I've handled a car the two guards. Like if I had to pick two guys in the NBA that like guards or kids try to emulate. It's not LeBron because he's so. You can't like people know they're not gonna grow up to be like him. You know? I mean, like you I decide Ziya William I haven't seen. Nobody physically dominating kids like LeBron will be a lot of kids favorite players like LeBron's a lot of kids favorite players in terms of who they want to try to play line. You're not gonna LeBron because they know they can't like you're not gonna be doing stuff. He does. So who what's realistic for a person will Steph in career, like six two six one and freak athlete? They don't dunk on people. What are they just skilled? So that's every kid's dream is like, and I think another guard that probably should be updated. But it's not as Kemba Walker for me as a guys that I watched and he's like the most underrated hardest guarded like hardest to guard in the league, in my opinion is the hardest. If I had to pick part for me that's hard to guard become a Walker because he gets a loaded the grand in his handles crazy now that he's shooting the way he does he's impossible to guard. But yeah, who's underrated team Clinton? I love Campbell. Kim was great Lou will. Raid. He's. Obviously what he's doing is incredible. They're so many guys like that the guys that note, I really don't get the the love. There are a lot of guys though, your point to ten right now Eric's going don't ever talk about Eric's air to there's a lot of Dennis rotor. I mean, he's slow to guard. Like, he's there's a lot each team has like usually each team. We'll have one to two guys they're like people don't talk about people. Don't know if he was on another team with a better opportunity might average twenty game Louisville's doing it. So well off the bench. Does that help a guy in a certain way? I don't think he cares because he's not I played them last year. And he's there's a state where he had a start. But he couldn't start enough a certain amount of games while couldn't be eligible for six years. I can't do. But his starting numbers in his bench numbers like the same. I think he's just that's his thing. It's become his thing now. So I think he's just like I'm six guy like, and he's made it cool. You know what? I mean. There's just such a stigma. I think what being a six man like they don't get paid the same just for being a six, man. Like, if you would have been a starter starting his games, you know, Louis one of the most underpaid players in the NBA, he makes eight million dollars a year. And you have is the number of an all star dies making twenty five million dollars year thirty million dollars a year. So, you know, it's unfortunate. But you know, that's just this thing that he's always been in. I give them credit for sticking with that even though like because he could easily changed for the money milling. No, I want to be a starter. I wanna make starter money because there is a difference between start on your bench money. There. Just is. And he's good enough pirate. Start on most them. And he's just stuck with what he does. Well, the clippers are exciting. I mean, keep an eye on them just by virtue of your dad a play there on we'll watch the training. So like even though I want him to do. Well, I watch them like I don't know wash the wizards play food NBA watch as a fan of the game. Because I do understand where you're coming from. I do. This do right here. Loves basketball. He's watching MBA was a little college by news. 'cause we're watching every game watch every game every NBA game watch high school. Like, watch make tapes this do love basketball. And like he was the first first player could say at my age like I saw like really working his game. Like like, it's one thing. Like, you know, how kids no days off or you know, guys come back to the Jim after practice at night sometimes and get shots. But this do you could tell he came, you know, from a basketball background is being around his dad, his whole life being rise older brother and just being around froze as life is you know, when I was in college and after practice, I'm trying to get in a code sub. And try to get you know to the next thing he's in gym like still going hard game speed at night. He's working out by so game speed. And now my eyes 'cause he's eighteen I'm eighteen like I need to start taking that approach in. You know, he wants to talk about basketball. He wants to watch it. He wants to find ways to get better. And that kind of opened my eyes as a freshman. He was probably use our most competitive player on our team best player too. So you know to have your best player work the hardest. You know, that that showed me a lot that my is a lot. And you know, kind of my when I love I always say that word about you, competitor or confidence. And I don't think people know what to do with somebody who doesn't apologize for that confidence or minimize it. Do you always feel like you're up against that? Yup. Always had this stigma. Whether it's for better for worse, some people like it a lot of people don't, I don't know. What what? 'cause I've never done anything to anybody in terms of like like, I've never disrespected any other player. I I don't know if it's it might be just because where I come from. You know, meet I come from the word privilege money. I do come from these things I'm aware that. So when. You see a guy like that you usually don't see that type of kit with the chip on the shoulder people. Like, why does he have a chip on his shoulder? He has no reason habitable shoulder, but I had it for my own reasons. I had it because I was in shadow my whole life. I was tired of being referred to as docs, kid, doc, son, and that used to motivate me growing up. So I used to play like angry and chip my own still do now it got even worse. I thought it'd be better. But then I wouldn't play for them. You know meets all the hard work. I've ever done got like just wiped out with that. So now playing for him. So then I had to start from scratch again. You know what I mean? And then, you know, now, I'm here. It's been a crazy year for me. Personally. I go to DC then I get traded then Wade sign here. So it's been like a whole different way. But then I found actually pretty good situation for me. I use all these things to motivate you, so that's why play with that level of. Whatever you wanna call it confidence. Cockiness whatever people you use it. They want to. That's why play with that. Just because I feel like I have so much to prove and get better at and people sometimes take it as me being something, I'm not, but I always tell people into a heart. I've worked harder where they would never. They've never second Guinness me or questioned me 'cause I've always tried to work people because I felt like I've had to you know, it's backgrounds different. From a lot of from ninety nine percent. Only person. I know Steph is the only guy to relate to in terms of. You know, that type of background. But yeah, I'll give credit just real quickly not talking too much. But. Quinn when we first got to Duke. I know a lot of people know his story, but like. I was like one of the hardest working dudes. When when we were there as a freshman, and I felt like Quinn was the only guy who liked took note of that. Like you wash me work. And then like it raised his level work where like Quinn became the hardest working got to wear like I would go back to the dorms after working, and then I would go to my dorm, and I'd be like check into his dorm. Leo. Whereas in a oughta guys being they're playing video games. Where's quinn? They buy coins at the gym. Johnny go back. So I had this thing like I had to be hard working. So so I'd like met back at the card. He's they're working on my guest, never stopped. So that he started working and he went for like dying dim place freshman year to by the time. He was like a second third year. He was the captain of the team he was in a whole different shape. Whole different level player. Different attitude. Y'all know the raw Quinn of like, oh, kill these. He's been here from Ben to like his third year. Like the leaf she had to go to. And then they say like always not, you know, he's doesn't have a pro body. He doesn't have all these things. Right. All this all this negative stuff. And he'd like goes at A G league. Or then was a deeply dominated at for like multiple years. Still never gave a chance. I don't get. I don't understand that whole thing. The G league stuff. I don't get it. 'cause there's a guy down there who liked could be you know, there's probably two or three of them who like definitely could be in the league. But whatever reason it's like if you do too. Well, they're like, oh, he's just Jenkins just four this interesting dynamic, you know, and then he makes it to the league. And I always told him as the day. I don't think it's a coincidence. That Quinn is one did you high school that you wouldn't national champs in high school and national college in a Chevy ship in the NBA say whatever they want like we went to do. He went to like that stuff. Doesn't happen. My chance. There's a lot of us would. For good MBA teams, get colleges don't do all three. You know, what I mean like he just has a winning mentality. And that's definitely something. I picked him from him in colleges. He do anything to win win for the listeners who don't know you went from the G league to the warriors to championship last season. You went from the Cavs the Mavs, the Pels the hawks, you know, bouncing back and forth. How did you deal with the doubt or the uncertainty of your journey knowing that you had this NBA dream? You're good enough to be here. But maybe the path was pretty wind e. Oh, I just think for me. My confidence was always there. I always believed that I belong. I've always had friends like Austin in essay Davis brand Bill who Vic dollar depot K D guys like who are stars in a league. And they always kept confidence in myself like for me playing a game LA to have him. Come watch me play in the daily like that doesn't happen like knobs in Kane. Lebron came to watch me play like that that doesn't happen. You know? And those guys kept my confidence, I knew the workout put in and no growing up. I was at competence myself. Like, I wasn't Madonna American. I was on American college like I just had to take a different route. And I appreciate it and last year when Steph went down when I started to score twenty five thirty twenty five. I didn't act like this was new because I have been doing my whole life. So you know, that was just a Tunde for me. I wanna take advantage of and now everything happens for reason, you know, five teams passed on me, but not gonna right team. Guys wanna keep building line back to those Duke days. How did your confidence start building there? How did the competition level Bill between you guys how did you feed off each other to make this good thing into sprout, all of these awesome? NBA careers. Oh well coming in. You know, we were to you know, highly Todd guys coming in. So we already had that Bonn on. So you know, he showed me out on his mic saves. I shall have on the mice. I see him get thirty. I'll try to get thirty. Just you know, we have always had this friendly competition. But it was all love who were never, you know, just trying to tear each other down all build each other. I haven't we had gotten to it. We played against each other. And the McDonald American game it's supposed to be. All star game all-star, right? And we're talking tries to show that at the end of the game. That's how competitive we were. But it was all love like we always build each other up, and no one I got to car as I was hurt. So I missed the whole summer I missed on preseason. So I didn't get to play right away. But I saw he was doing in college like from day one. And it just was motivation for me. So key working key work. I'll see him after practice keep going keep going. I'll see you know, coach yell at him about defense. Inhale not make excuses and hill just trying to fix it. You know, I just kind of leaned on him when I needed, you know, advice anything's I wasn't playing at a time. And then I got thrown into start lineup. And now we start feeding off each other. And I was great, man. It was a great year for me that year, you know, kinda propel me into. Unto, you know, a great career in college. And I just think you know, him being with me him coming back and we had lockout at first year. He was coming back in. I it was great. What is cut K like? I think would be able to answer that more just because you know, you spent more time with him. And you know, he won with him. I think guys who have won with him have a different bone. I truly believe that you know. I think the one and done guys that go there usually tend to be like, you know. Hey, appreciate you coming ears. You know, thank you for helping our our brand do best ball. And I thank them for learning stuff. That can help me be professionals Kelly this like it's almost like a year school. They try to like we'll meet coach K, we'll talk while. I was there. It was never about like he would always talk to me about like the next level. You gotta start doing this better. Like, you're gonna do this next year. You got started doing this? It wasn't about like because he knew I was out. So it was all about like, I think he learned that. And then it's been like now every year. I think he's doing that was I an RJ now. And Cam think he's like just you you mold them, but in terms of relationship, the guys that win coach K have different have different bond. I'm sure acquainting. Into that. Because I actually meant when I was working Durham I worked three or so it was a head of you guys. I was like it was John Shire was Kyle Singler was g was those guys. But I remember getting to know coach K a little bit. He was funnier. The most people might realize was that your experience. Yes. How was he funny? Anyway, he loves beyond say does he he loves me saying, I have no idea like Lowe's, be awesome. So. One time click, right? One. We weren't. We weren't practicing. We weren't practicing the right way. And so we come in. And he he's like the ultimate motivator. If it's giving us a highlight Tate right before the game, or you know, just anything he he'll make you never really feel like you can beat the world. So I'm practicing will. And it was trickling into games. This barely being teams. We were supposed to you know, may handle and. So we come in fail minutes, big dark, marine, a bitter. And you know, he's like, yeah. Kevin s are video guys. Like, yeah. Kevin's terminal doesn't say anything like the Osei. And it's like just her walking her like talking to her dancers talking to everybody in the room house. She wants should wants that what she into what does he into? And he's showing how hard she's practicing. She's rehearsing for show, and she's going full speed Swain. Like, she's I I I didn't like it like just she she was really demanding you know, greatness in practice in her rehearsal. And then it transferred to hurt during the show that night. And I was his, you know, little correlation about how how hard we need to go on practice for transfer to the game. And I mean, it was I coach what are we doing? I mean, we start a little harder to this in my head on the managing coach K doing single latest dance. No way. Has he ever met her? Do you think you? Influence to Jay z got awarded a I think sportsman your coach of the year. It was it was him a pass summit and in New York. And so like, Jay z was LeBron. So there's a picture of a Jay Z like Jay z LeBron beyond say coach, and like, you know, coach like all four pitcher so coach, you know, smiling regular another pitcher him and beyond say, and he's just blushes it's faces. So soulread. He won on earth. Would they talk about? Do you think lady both grief people great nephew every time? Talk about just winning both do. I had no idea. He he had a head of thing for beyond. That's that's pretty funny mood the music. He likes listening. He sounds like he to me. I feel like he would be like an old fashioned kind of guy or like a secret country music fan. Something. Frank sinatra. I see him listening light temptations. Yeah. He goes a little bit. You definitely I mean, you don't. From my experience. I'm sure coins say this like to get the do like him calbury have done. They get all these players and trying to like make this into a racial thing. But like obviously allow the players are black and African American like you have to be able to relate to get guys to come to your school guys. Don't go to school at they think you'll like corny or do can't relate to my life. Like, he has a even though he's I think he is Jewish right up. You know, he has his own background of like nut coming from a lot and fighting in like he has a relate a whether it's music. No, we're talking about like temptations and stuff like that. Like, he was surprised you and think you like coach K when do these things like, you know, he would he's very a lot more relatable to to to the young guys that people think he is a there's a reason why guys go there, and they always come back in the summers and fun because like everybody likes him. Everybody loves do you talk to people, and they love Duke, don't go to do curious about that feeling villa. In schools. Yeah. Yeah. In do you honestly didn't help me. I was already hated. For the whip cream. And then my dad Jerry Roth who. Understand tobacco road. And how great the Duke Carolina rivalry was all that kind of stuff. Like more is more crazy for the fame. Considered the other school they allied with Carolina guys almost went to do some do guys Carolina. But once they're like, you're there, and the fans take it very serious as shoot it is fun robbery. They are top schools that are like what is eight miles and miles. Whatever it is. You know, it's it's it's I feel bad for I on that. He didn't get the play this year. The biggest vulgar for me Washington this year because everybody knows he's going to be on to bigger and better things. But those memories of those games don't ever leave. You those robbery games? He's not gonna get those back in he's going to do amazing things. But like, I always like you could ask guys like Kevin Durant. Stature Steph like some of the most fun times life or even the highschool stuff the camps. Like once it gets here. It's all like such a business, and it's your job. And you gotta do this. You'll get it is like when you're in high school and college is all about like just being free and trying to win win being goofy. And you know, you're not a held accountable for your actions. You could do stupid stuff and get away with it. Like, those are the stories that you remember what life so I feel from that he will be able to to do those things. But yeah, that that rivalry is is special memory time. You hit the shot against Carolina at the dean dome. You ended like thirty or thirty one game win streak. He he is the buddies reacted everybody. So I hit the shot. Right. Stop rush shot. It. I thought there was three seconds left. So when I made it I thought there's still like a second or two left. Yeah. So I just yelled I didn't like if I would have known. It was a of the buzzer. Our? I want to do a civil or something. I I just yelled and better turn in turn. They came in. They like the whole team. I jumped ship must be game. I look up like this like, I'm on the ground. All humans. Tommy, I see Quin talking to the failing. Shiva like jersey screaming at is dead quiet near all you. Here's like quiz voice. I was near call this. Exactly. We want was supposed to win more rain. Dowling's? What was really really good teams cry? We had just lost. We had this laws to Miami right before that. So I or wasn't you know, where where it should have been. And we just went in there. We stay with it and everybody how like a part player play. Well, like we start out slow guys were hot. And then like a second half like Ryan Kelly how to point Andre gala one point and Seth and the quaint came in hit big baskets in the Mesa play. Well, I play well everybody like everybody our team widowed microbe. And then like the shot just the shot happened the players that you think for hundred come off down pit now screen, but it was over when I got up with the big, you know. Actually shot that same shut the game before Miami. We lost you most again, we're down like two or three and coach wanted to quick to and I came off and it wasn't there. But I had that big cruise at big do for a Reggie Johnson. You're the big do for Miami. And I shot that same shot, and I just missed it. And then so when I got back in that situation almost like has hit like shit like I don't wanna shoot this. I mean like. Wave the mall, and then I just shot it honestly thought there was time left. And then I'll look back in our team was like. I think why went so crazy was because. Dow's our that was our first Carolina do gain. Yeah. Wasn't for you. That was my first game. So, you know, instant win have Instagram at the time. It was just Twitter at that time if you will do player like every single day. You get mentioned from fans calling you calling you that? So we got there we got to Carolina and we're warming up. A and I was my first time experiencing that light at that level. Obviously. You we go we go places where everybody biggest game. But they don't hate you as much as Carolina did. And so now my first time really going through that offers. I was pissed right there behind the bass all right there. So like when we come to date came early shooter out. Geez. And you're all sitting there waiting the gyms like empty except the fans they're sitting there waiting for each player has her like slotted over time to shoot or do anything. I just remember coming out of the tunnel. Oil and this like chubby white dude was in the front where like bagel pay. Here it come comes in your life. What is going on? I'm walking to your shoe everytime. I should've shot there. Like this like like saying, this is Krems a shoe word of the game. Yes nuts. I remember old lady customer negate mid game. I went to chew sitting front row and she had to be like eighty something. Like, she's old old out as you called me, something something motherfucker. I was eight years old. Yes. I remember this. I'm not making this up to like, this is this is for real some members. They really do like fun rivalry. They do like, hey, that's why we lost it. We lost. It. We lost. What was the bus ride back? When we got back. Oh. Yeah. On campus. Where did you come back to? Grow for my girl was. Said he didn't have a girl. I had a girl. We got back. There was we often are a little a little body. They thought I was asked to rooms that way. Like. Five thousand people there like Susan. Up. There was like you could move to get to the like. We put up in the circle like right in front of the door. But we could pull up all the way 'cause people shake in the bus. I wanna say, okay. So we get off the bus. They barely can open the bus door, and we're just like weaving through somebody brought a boombox playing music nice. So like people in there like dance and have fun, man. Like people. I'm like, this is Craig I'm looking we all like everybody was like this is to to to be Carolina played them at Carolina four times. I won three times. But the way we beat them like that was a memory that even I want to ascertain ship, and it wasn't as wild as you wouldn't temperature. You stay in the city that night he fly back in during the day. So it's kinda like, you know. Yes, very welcoming. But it's like that night. We were still Ryan enough their journaling from the game fans. It was it was crazy those grins at the color, baby. Blue and like feel something doesn't make you baby. Blue. I am aware of it though. Wear more maybe sneakers a game last year, some semi like an Adidas award, and like somebody likes to a picture on the TV Senate to me on my Instagram fucking doing what do you mean? I like debut people I was aware. Viral prevalence. I was wearing like people going to say, what do you call that the Cameron crazies hungover? They they were great. I think they've actually picked back up again a bit. I'm not my year. Are you there? There are a little bit like whatever reason like a little bit. If you go back in the nineties and early two thousand came McRae's, they were like nuts. That's where they got that reputation for that are year or my year, the our freshman year, they were like pretty good. They weren't like as crazy. And then that you're they want an actual championship. It like picked it back up and then ever since then I'm watching them. Now to like, I mean. I mean, they I mean, I I can't really complain we sold out every game. So it's like we've never had like a game. Where like no matter who we played. There's never that students actually was never empty. I think people are. So I I don't even know if it's like, you know, you we pay like New York and stuff you'll see people wearing like harbor charts. Anybody do really go to heart because like you see everywhere to like. Yeah. I see so many people have do Globo. And the Duke shirt, I'm hitting. Macos when he whenever class class class. Do for you to do because cool. Okay. He's still keep an eye on Duke Carolina or any of that stuff. But we guys fill out a bracket. Because March madness is coming isn't. That is that's a little part of your life. Breguet last year. We had a team down foot our breakfast, some guys obviously, not going to go with Alba mater. Obviously, what us we always have a good chance every year. So I feel comfortable and confident always bracket. But I always watch always watch college basketball always know watch do always wanted to win. I still have this in my heart. Always be one Carolina it loose. I know I know so many Carolina fans and anytime they lose quick Jay the fact that they swept us this year when you have the national player of the year, but they swept us my phone. Still going crazy with my boys with so many ACC guys in the league right now is there ever trash trash-talk? Is there ever? Like does it. Go back that Dido really. I don't I don't watch college basketball at all do there. I'll watch do play piano do other than that. I don't know who's coming out. Who's the top player? I've always just been like an NBA like I've just I love watching the NBA play the playing style. I don't know. Why that is he said? What kind of career? Do you feel like he could have in the NBA the way he's built the way he's made? He's physically gifted beyond measure. So you know, you can't put a I can't predict what skills developed like I don't know if you'll become this great of shooter the things he doesn't have yet. I don't know. You know? I mean, so it's really, but like you would you do if he does develop them like he has the potential to be like this Megan star. So it's really untapped. He's. Well, guys that you have to take a chance on 'cause even worse case scenario, he has the weight MBA's now the floor so spread has shooting every team his ability to get to the basket with his athleticism in the way rests. Call foul so willingly if you're a player, it's gonna be a tough time keeping him off the line next year. I mean, he's charging you full speed in the front court Nagai's to sixty to seventy and he actually is really good with the ball better. The people think into the basket, you know, he's going to be special. This is a road trip. In podcast. So I do wanna get to some questions about the road. How you guys exists day in the life kind of thing. What does it like on a road trip? How much do you hang out at the hotel? How much do you feel like you can do what you wanna do and be a normal person? Oh for me. Yeah. How do you feel your time on the road? A lot of Netflix. It's what are you watching? A lot of mood. I'm watching on soft right now. It's a new docu series on to pock and be. Get murder. So are you so and there's a whole bunch of stuff on Netflix like the serial killer shows the murder show will for. Will feel. Are us walking around and and people like he's got some traits. He might. You want to start to get dark like Dr Phil funny. Like, I can't believe this on hang watch it. It's like when you're YouTube and something, and then you end up our later, researchers had nothing. I I was I was watching something like it was like two thousand seventeen most cringe-worthy news video so much like funny stuff I end up like Columbine shooting. Like, no say like once you watch your like fascinated to be like what happened like? Yeah. So I watched like evil geniuses on that flicks. And then you watch the Ted Bundy tapes, and then you watch all this stuff. I watch all of them. Okay. Man. I'd like sit there after Billy. We like. I don't like that's my stuff watch over. I I will watch that stuff. No more comedies you guys watch friends office. How do you keep things? Like, listen, this is this is a big thing in the NBA. If you're white. Washed offer. You're black. If you don't watch Martin not accepted into. They like so when I came a mixed, right. So I. Team on TV. Everybody on the modern. Everybody gets super like, quiet. But also what you like everybody will like and you see the white. On. Always outnumbered. There's one white guy at team. All of the guys on the buzz. Like, you want more you let Martin as one white guy like come on, man. I never grew up my older brother watches Martin. So I watched a little bit of Martin. But like, I gravitated I like dry humor. So the office is like the funniest show I've ever seen. I've seen each episode like a hundred times it's so awkward so I washed yet Audrey show. Oh, my God office is the funniest show. I've ever he'll be one plane just everybody sleep or just flies me. And you just dial out. That's me. I'll be able to play on how after a loss and everybody's playing like I'll be watching the office. I'll just start crying laughing. I'll catch myself like 'cause I got on what he would be like was he do decide offices. That's mush. Oh. Dwight shrewd lanes for Andre kid win good neighborhood line. And I'll be able to tell you the episode and season. I'm that I've seen I've seen these episode probably twenty to thirty five times the beat fire. Memphis. What I can't remember a quote, but. Or when there was a quote on the whiteboard, somebody said it, and then Michael Scott put his name underneath it. Like he wanted to take credit for it. Oh, you're looking at me Willie Walker would for the gold ticket when he took credit for the golden ticket one of those or he was like gangsta Mike remember when he prison, Mike. Thank you. Believe that there's no the hard thing offices like when you re very quotable, you say it if it's not like in Michael's awkward way. Like, it's not. That's that's it was like Martin you could quote stuff from it. And it's very funny like because it's such a dry humor office is not a great global TV show. You actually like watch it, and it can go up to anybody and say, that's what she said. And everybody's gonna get it though. I hope that. But that's what she said has been around for so long, but the office did make it like. He had to say you couldn't help himself like. How about four night on the road video games? No drinking are there. Addicts though in the league story. Gordon Hayward is the only I don't know anybody plays. Okay. That's hopefully move. Men. Okay. That's only give play trying to get into grand theft auto got into online Dotto and people just take that. It's like you're actually playing against other people grandfather when it's like, a sim world type thing and people just kept shooting me killing me, actually, had my real name is Australia's names, relentless I couldn't I would respond for like five sessions. So there. No matter your man, I create a different name. I tried to like I became the best drug dealer known. How about pampering yourself on the road? Did you see that story about guys getting pedicures? Would that be somebody do? No, have you ever tried it? Really nice garden with my girl before. Listen guys, this jagged. Tony, do you? Or like, what are you you go to the spot? These every seasons rents the spas are usually the best. So I could actually see the guy's going off data. Go take care of themselves. But I don't I don't I don't I just stayed Ruben watch movies and TV shows. That's pretty much all dues deaf. Looks is like I love Formula one racing. A big into cars. I don't even know I got into it like six seven years old. I've a huge collection now. And card collection. I it's all I spend my money. If I spend anything money like I'm really into like gills, and I don't really go out to clubs. They myself is cars, so I have a pretty nice car collection collectibles. And I watched Formula one racing on huge a former one racing. So they actually have a race today. I I I raise season. No, I love that stuff. Hell out this up Quinn. What are your favorite Rhode cities for food? Food. Lamma I guess spas in a it's the wings. Right. What you're spot skin name some names as one oh one gotta go to best wings to me in the country. Those wings wanna ones one. What else? Yeah. Littlewoods? I mean, obviously lake is you got so many different spots New York DC, you I can go and eat spots grew up in stuff like this. So, but if I had to pay once by it'd be Atlanta. So I guess wings like sushi. I love sushi. No, no. Why is it just the round us on you'll like it? I don't like raw sushi shrimp to Parsa. She and crab do like a little bit thing. Okay. Favorite place to? The best restaurants in the world. In my opinion. They have such a wide variety. Best Italian spots. I love Italian food this favorite food LA to L as low Hollywood all the veterans are like so like who's who kind of gets a little annoying. Got it. We've talked about so much. Is there anything else you guys want to talk about while you have each other here? We talk so much. A million. I guess it was the worst was the worst city to on the road. What what city do you? Do you want to answer? Worst question for me. I don't care for me. Cleveland Cleveland's worse. Why I'm my family's there. Like, I call me all the time. It's like, muggy and cold. It was there. What's your worst would probably be Cleveland? It's just always freezing there. And there's like if you're there like a day between which teams don't even do anymore like people stay like you guys are staying here right now. So you guys go today's. Is this is there's nothing. There's nothing to do. What do you do what you in the whole? They don't have four seasons. Although Cleveland head that numerous Carlton, they just renovated. It's actually really nice. But you go to like, Milwaukee or okay, see Detroit. He's places. Don't have these type of really nice hotels that you don't mind being all day. So like Sali don't even have, you know, movies on demand, and you'll have the movie on demand thing. I'm in Trump. No trans I'll be like, man. That's why I got the ipad with the Netflix on because I'm just like I can't. It. I don't like cold. I've never played. I honestly think that's why DC work out from. They're cold. I don't see much. I been in hot weather, my whole life. I love like I don't mind coming outside and sweating like I'm used to being take top number and Florida, it's humid you sweat. I got there, and I had actually buy a jacket like from their different ballgame, man. I was like this shouldn't miserable cleared to nothing there. I hated it. Oh my gosh. I hate it is so cold up there here Houston now. Awesome for joining us on Twitter at Austin rivers twenty five man on a mission Quinn cook. That's cute cook three two three at the road trip and pod shadow to Roach in NBC sports bay area. We're gonna do this a couple more times for the rest of the seasons. Thank you for being on guests on this. Make sure to subscribe to the road trip in podcast rate us five stars give us gestures feedback. Whatever you wanna see some guests ideas, and we will keep this conversation rolling. Thank you Quinn. Awesome. Pre share for show years round.

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Steve Kerr, Golden State Warriors Head Coach

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Steve Kerr, Golden State Warriors Head Coach

"There's obviously kind of a magic that that comes together when it all works, and and that magic is dependent on so many people, and and you know, obviously talent, but people being invested in the same thing. Yeah. Meaning the management and ownership and players, and so if you get the right people at talented people in you, get them invested, and you can sort of give them a vision and practice that that vision every day. That's when you see it start to come together. And that's to me, that's the most most exciting part of coaching. All right. Welcome back. Welcome to the finding Masri podcast. I am Michael javale in by trade in training sport performance. I collagen the whole idea behind these conversations is to learn and then apply those learnings to your life. And we wanna learn from people who have committed their life efforts to the path of mastery in inside of that we want to understand what they're searching for we want to understand their psychological framework, which is how they make sense of their internal world how they make sense of events around them. And we also wanna dig to understand the mental skills that they use to build and refine their craft, okay, athletic greens. You've heard me talk about it. I don't know if you've had the chance to check it out yet. I hope you have in you know, how much I enjoyed the product. And so this comes from a natural place. I want to encourage you to do the same. I've been ripping run in the last couple of weeks on travel, and I can't tell you how great it is to know that I've got an easy pack. Just rip it open dropping into a water bottle four five shakes, and I've got some serious good stuff than putting in you know, from micro macro perspective. It's like an insurance that I'm getting the right stuff into treat. My sells, you know for just being better. And so they couldn't have made it easier seriously. And as you can tell a highly recommended head over to athletic, greens dot com forward slash finding mastery to take advantage of an offer that they put together for us, and what they have is a twenty pack travel pack, one just talking about four free with any purchase that you make it's valued at about ninety nine dollars. So head over to Atlantic greens dot com Ford slash finding mastery in check him out. Are at this week's conversation is with NBA head coach Steve Kerr, and he's a coach of the Golden State Warriors. And if you're familiar with possible, you know, that they had been on an absolute tear for the last handful of years. It's been an amazing building of team chemistry and performance that Steve has been part of at the helm of. And it's just flat out ridiculous. What they've done. And so this conversation is working on pack and decode how how has he done that who has he become and who is he working on becoming and what is the path that led him to both of those places in more. Specifically he this is his fifth year as head coach with the team. And during that time he's helped the team towards three NBA championships for straight NBA final appearances the NBA single season win record seventy three wins in NBA coach of the year award in twenty fifteen twenty sixteen in four of the five. Winningest seasons in franchise history loaded so Steve who won five NBA championships during a fifteen year playing career now has eight championships. Either the player in a coach and is the first to win three NBA titles as a player and three as a coach so outcome. Yes. He's got it. But this conversation is not about the outcome. It's about the process. It's about the way he thinks in organizes his life in for those of you unfamiliar with the Seattle Seahawks, which is an NFL team the head coach at that organization is p Carol he's also a partner in a business that we fired up together compete to create and his whole philosophy inside of that organization is to always compete compete to become the best version of yourself compete to be best dad, the best son, the best friend the best coach the best player, whatever the role is at hand. And Steve has made a point to. Revolve, the warriors culture around joy and in this conversation. We discuss how Steve went on about building the warriors culture, and what he is most hungry for his biggest challenges at the moment. And then finding a way to keep the warriors driven and hungry and playing with joy after they've already experienced so much previous success and so winning after winning success after success is a whole different type of challenge. And Steve has a brilliant mind, A Beautiful Mind, and the way he expresses that genius inside a basketball is rare in its unique. And I think you're gonna love his insights, not just for basketball though, but life as a whole and with that, let's jump right into this conversation with coach Steve Kerr. Steve, how are you? I'm good. How are you Mike? Thanks for taking the time. I've been looking forward to having this conversation with you for a while. I pleasure. So the first time we met it was number years ago up at the Seahawks. And it was really exciting to see how you were getting your head around your philosophy in what it is that you wanted to do as a as a beginning. Coach has a beginning phase of your life of coaching and say, wow, congratulations. What you've done and how you've done it like remarkable. Well, thank you. I never could've Agean that our team would have this kind of success. I knew was taking a really good job knew we had a lot of talent. But to think that it would all come together like this. I never never could see that coming. But it was it really was a great time for me that that summer. Trying to figure out you know, how I wanted to coach and my visit to Seattle seeing using Pete's watching the Seahawks practice for a few days. Just seeing their culture senior environment was a huge influence on me. And and it continues to be so, you know, Pete Pete remains a good friend, and we talk quite a bit. And I love the way he goes about his business. And you know, that was a big experience for me in terms of, you know, helping me become the coach I am now, you know, one of the things that struck me about that brief intense time that we had was how. Great of a student. You are. And you know, I'm saying that in you've won. I think today eight championships, and you won a handful five of them as a player, and then like to watch you learn I was like okay here we go. Right. Like, your egos out of it. And you're already, you know, you've already been the best in the world for longtime like your egos out of it. Curiosity is front facing. And the thirst to really understand not to try to pair it not to try to take or steal someone else's tactic. None. It's like so much deeper authentic like how does that work, and I can see Hugh working to say. How could that work for me? No, no. No, no. I'm not gonna use that. That's that would never work for me. But how you'd like how can I use this? And it was beautiful. Yeah. Well, thanks. It was it was life changing for me really to to sit. And here Pete story. You know, the the best thing that that he told me was that he didn't really figure out how to coach until he left the NFL and took a few years off. And and I've maybe maybe a year or two and then went to USC said when I went to USC, I finally figured it out. I so what does that even mean, you know, because I was would watch coaches and admire them. I would focus more on probably their offense or their defense. Or you know, what the teams identity was. And I wasn't exactly sure how to sort of get that far. You know, what the the nitty gritty every day. And that's that was really the key for me with that trip. Was was learning from Pete? Sort of how to impose your own values your own will onto your own team. And where you really helped me was sort of writing it all down like like in his in sort of a graph. And and putting it all together. So that it looked in my mind like, oh, yeah. This makes sense. You know, these are my values. This is this is what I want my team to look like. And this is how I'm going to get there. And it was it was it was really eye opening because I had never had anybody. Explain coaching to me that way before you know. I appreciate what you just said. Because from it was super stimulating as well. So it sounds like, you know, like, I think that that's part of where genius comes from. This madness kind of empty white space, and then starting to put together some ideas, and then applying those ideas right consistently, right? And if it's not our Ganic if it's not offensive it will fail, right? That's the key that it has to be has to be authentic. It has to be organic. And then, you know, there's obviously kind of a magic that that comes together when it all works, and and that magic is dependent on so many people, and and you know, obviously talent, but people being invested in the same thing in meaning management in ownership players. And so if you get the right people at talented people in you, get them invested, and you can sort of give them a vision and practice that that vision every day. That's when you see it start to come together. And that's to me, that's the most most exciting part of coaching. I think you just said something that I haven't heard someone say before, but is really important one. Is you started with the collective and. Then you moved into meaning that we know one does this alone. Who right? And I think you're was just awarded for like player of the year. But it was the organization, right? That's what's so. Okay. So that's coming from that perspective for you as well or influenced in captured in that way. But then you said something like having a vision sharing that vision and the vision, I think the vision changes a little bit once which is healthy, which you know, when we have other people way in and their texture their fabric in a very complicated ecosystem of human relationships, it shifts just a little bit to be an organic a shared vision. And then practicing vision like how how do you practice the vision? I love the that's so right. Like, how do you practice? It. While I think. You know, what I what I learned from keep on that. Visit was I specifically asked him. I said, what do you mean, you didn't figure out how to coach until you got to see what it what is that mean any said he said, I realized that every day had to be reflection of my values as coach, and and those values had to be practiced. And it couldn't be just you know, you go into any teams practice center or gym or arena locker room. You've got all the slogans all over the place. Right. It's it's not about a slogan wall. It's about a what your day looks like. And and what what feels like when you walk into the gym. And so I asked p what is what does that mean for you? And he said, well, it it meant, you know, finding the the four or five things that were most important to me in my life. What what were the values that I held most dear? And then how can I how can I practice those things every day? I said we'll give an example said competition, he said loved it competes, my favorite thing, you know, whether it's applying horse with, you know, playing monopoly with the family, whatever I just love to compete and so every day. With the Seahawks. We compete every every drill. There's a winner. Loser. We're always competing, and that's when it started to make sense to me because I watched them practice. I watch these one on one drills with with each position group in their all fired up because they're competing, and they're and they're gone back and forth. Talking trash it looks so much fun. But that that directly related to Pete's personality. And so that day he said, and yet, you you, and I talked about this that day Pete said, you know, find find your four values. What are they right down? Maybe ten things that are really important to you. Go home tonight. Go back to the hotel think about them. And distill them down to the most important for you know, what are your key for values? And then then you start thinking about how do you implement those four values into your everyday existence as a team, and when those things sort of collide an intersect now, that's what that's when you say, we have a team culture. That's when you start building something that feels candle to players, even if they're not aware of what's in front of them. And they just feel it when they come to the gym everyday. It's really cool about that. Is that that list started from you? And then you had the discernment to get it down to your four. So it's not like taking the four from X organization. You know, whether it's in business or sport. It's not like, oh, well, that's working. Let me take theirs because as soon as you get punched in the mouth, it's not really real. My god. I don't know what I'm doing. And so okay. So have you talked publicly about what your four? I think I have I know that I think one day at practice. The the media actually saw the four values on our Greece Ford. And so we talk about them once or twice a year in front of the group. We talk about this whole idea of what we're trying to accomplish. So the media gotta look at it in. I think I've been asked about a couple times. So I have I have shared. You know, some of that publicly. Can you can you share one of them? I'm not sure if you want Cheryl for cool, but if can you share one of them that sits at the center for you. Yeah. I mean, I'm happy to share share them all, but I think the one that means the most to our team is joy. And you know, it's something that is critical to our group in particular because I think it's reflected in in the way we play, and you know, if you watched f curry sometimes you just think he's a kid at the park just loving basketball. And it's actually an NBA playoff game him, but he's out there smiling and laughing and posing, and it's it's incredible to see the power that comes from. From the joy that that Steph exhibits and that spreads throughout our team. Because it you realize that when as a tap Ning. It's like, it's not just, you know, we just executed a play or you know, we just won the battle for a loose ball or boxed out or did something good from fundamental standpoint. It's just how much fun the guys are having. And when when they're having fun, and they're enjoying it. They're more likely to be good at it. And so joy is important in every single day of our practice and. So it's manifested in a lot of different ways. We have a we basically covered the walls of our practice facility with pictures of our guys in action smiling celebrating championships holding up trophies. You know, we wanted that joy to to be visible. In the on the on the walls of our facility, but that's not enough. It's it's exited every day in our film sessions. Which I saw with Pete in Seattle. He's he and his group are so good with the film, sessions editing. Funny stuff lines from movies, keep the guy's laughing. Keep them lose that kind of stuff. We celebrate every birthday. Whether it's a player trainer. Every part of every person is part of our group. We try to celebrate that person's individual life and and contribution to the team. And this is a daily exercise. It's a big part of who we are. And I think it matters. I really think it it helps bring out the best of us because it's. At its core. It's the game that we all started playing when we were kids because we loved it so much there's a science behind. Why what you're doing actually works to help people like stress debilitate s- intuition, you know, and I should say not stress but fear, anxiety and distress, right? It the billets intuition decreases our ability to find flow, and so there there's a real science behind the value. Enjoy I think people become so afraid of being joyful that they said nano that can't we need to be hard or right? And so, you know, you've taken a complete industry by storm by valuing joy and in its, but it's not just lip service. A lot of times you'll see on in organizations. The key tenants, the slogan ISM that runs throughout the organization, and it doesn't really mean anything. Right. And so that that's where your line meant like. No, no, no. I I want to live with joy guys. You know? And what that must do you? Remember when you shared that word with with your crew? I do I do it was it was probably a couple months in our first season. And we're doing really well. We got off to a really hot start. But I wasn't comfortable yet kind of sharing the thoughts. I really wanted to see how they would manifest themselves in if this could could feel real Anna did and it did almost right away. And it was probably December. You know, maybe a quarter of the way through the season. And we had a practice session, basically was dedicated to more of a film session. But dedicated to this whole idea of of you know, who we were gonna be and and how it was going to happen. And we talked a lot about joy and at practice right afterwards. Steph because he Steph was just running around and shrieking laughing and said coach, I'm having joy out here. Look at me. I'm having joy. That's that's when you know, it's real when you're getting clown. I will say this though, it's it's. I don't know that this is something you can do necessarily. But when when your values match those of. Your best player. That's that's a really powerful force. You know? So that first year, you know, Steph is he was the MVP that season, and he took to that so dramatically because it was really part of who he was. But another one of of the values that that that I said four to the team was compassion, which is another one that might be a little bit. Off the beaten path, you know in the in the world of competitive sports. But Steph is one of the most compassionate people that I know and the idea being this is a this is a dream job. But it's not an easy one. You know, you're competing against the best athletes in the world. You're laying it out there every day for millions of people to not only see comment on judge you by. And I think it's really important that we all show compassion for each other within the group, and that's exactly who Steph is too. So it had watching all this unfold. And I go, you know, my gosh, I I I wanted these values to to be displayed because this is who I am. And this is what's important to me. And I'm the coach, but these are all the values of the MVP the league who's on. Our team. It couldn't have worked out any better. Okay. Quick break to talk about the new finding your best course. Seahawks. Head coach P. Caroline. I we developed this eight week online program to take you through sixteen principles to help you train your mind, and we've included everything from a mindfulness practice, the art the science and the obligation of mindfulness. We talk about the recovery strategies to help you just optimize that right? Zest zeal spark that you ought to have every day, and we get into the mechanics of developing your personal philosophy learning. How to develop a sense of confidence in in deep focus at a trust yourself in any environment, including the most stressful ones that you live in an I couldn't imagine. Seriously. I could not imagine a better investment in oneself. Really? I it's easy for sale of spent my whole life working to understand how this really works. So it's one thing to listen to the podcast love that you're doing that. It's a whole nother level to invest in conditioning, training your mind. So the next course star. It's eleven in the final day to apply is February third and yes, there is an application process. The whole reason is because we want to curate a very special community of people that are supporting in challenging each other. They're gonna do the work and be there for each other on this path mastery. So there's nothing weird about it. But you know, there's an application process. So you can learn more and apply at compete to create dot net. Ford slash finding mastery in when you go there, you fifty dollars off the course for just punching in finding mastery. So it's compete to create dot net Ford slash finding mastery as we get the fifty dollars off in so with that seriously back to this conversation. But I I hope I truly hope that you spend some time either for yourself to check it out or send it to somebody else that you know, would be a beautiful fit for conditioning training their mind, okay with right back to this conversation. Okay. So again, I wanna say out loud. You didn't look at your best player and say, okay, let's model the culture after him. These words were your words your principles that matter to you. And I want to bring up something that I know is intense as well as foundational shaping for us, your father, and there's a quote that that I read about your dad was a brilliant man of Asli in. He says the truly civilized man is marked, by empathy. And when you hear that what what happens for you? Why it's interesting. I didn't know that quote Antill. The author the writer who wrote wrote this particular article about me in the New York Times John branch he'd looked at some of my dad's old writings, and he was a fanatic endemic in rubbed books on Middle East politics in history. And so when I saw that quote when John pulled it out of the archives and showed it to me. It was. It was amazing. It was on Spiring because. That that there's no question. That's that's why it's in my blood comes from. Not not just for me. It comes from. You know, my my family my dad, and so that was really powerful for me to to read that and to to feel that that that was exhibited in our our own team, in the way the way our guys play in the way, our guys treat each other. It may be feel really good. I can't imagine. And when I say brilliant. I mean, it's not by accident that somebody becomes the president of the American University of Beirut in you know, you lived in a a very dangerous environment for you know, that that period of time, and I know that you had to leave suddenly in. I want to understand what that early life was like for you. When you lost your father in you were young man that had invested lots of time in talent into basketball and needed to leave. Like what what was that like for you? It was. Yeah. It was really difficult. You know, by I finished my high school years in Los Angeles. My dad was a professor UCLA and. And he took the job in a route. I think during my maybe self or year of high school, and so he took the job in Wisconsin, quite a bit the last last couple of years of high school I finished. And so I was just looking moving onto college basketball on a university Zona looking forward to everything that was a head. And and that's when that's when my dad was killed. And so it was you know, when you're eighteen and something like that happens. It's. Can't can't even comprehend it. You can't. It's just so shocking. Just jolts everything in your world. And you just sort of start over again in a lot of ways, you know, you just. You just keep going, but you kind of pick up the pieces, and that's what everybody in our family had to. We did it separately. But together as well. And everybody has been able to to live liberally productive lives live. Well, and and I'm proud of all them in. What would you share an insight to somebody who lives on once a fairytale? But you had you had a really good life right now you've had extraordinary life. And then all the sudden tragedy strikes in like, how would you that kinda how it happens? It's not like people that have tragic their life. Like, they knew all along that is going to happen, right? It's like it could happen to you. Again. It can happen to me. None of us want that. Right. How would you recommend based because you've been in it you've been in the arena there to go through a really hard time as young man, what insights could you pass onto me or even that I could maybe pass on to the next generation like how how can you help? There. It's important. When e what you just said. You can't prepare for. Nobody knows something like that can happen. And yet almost almost no one goes through life without dealing with with. Real adversity tragedy. Losing a loved one, you know, going through health issues, whatever whatever it is. Nobody's immune. And I think the I think the important thing to to remember that. I think about a lot as I'm living coaching is just perspective, you know, keeping perspective. Even when maybe especially when things are going. Well. You can't sort of walk around with gloom and doom thanking God, it's all gonna fall apart something bad's gonna happen. But you just get support to go through life, counting your blessings to you know, each day. Being thankful for your family for your career. Whatever it is you're thankful for. I think those things need to be aknowledged. You can't just let them. Sli- by every day. And I think that's a honestly it's a big part of coaching. It's one of the one of the best things that Gregg Popovich. Did for me when I played and does for his team's now, he provides this amazing perspective and. It's probably similar to you know, when you're when you're little, and you don't eat every everything on your plate in your parents say, you know, hey, they're starving kids in China. Did you ever get that? When you were a kid. I did I did. I didn't understand it like, I don't I it was too young. I was like I don't get that. What's that gonna do with my spare? Even me. But but there's some there's wisdom in that. There's there's there's a lot of people suffering there. There's a lot of hardship all over the world. And here we are. Oh, man. We gotta come into practice. You know, we've had we've had three games the last four nights. You know, we're not playing. Well, we got to come in and work. Oh, man. This is really tough. You know and pop was great because he had a really good sarcastic sense of humor. But he had this way of just balancing out life perspective. With the reality of what we were facing everyday. And I something I try to do with our guys to if you could put on your best Gregg Popovich voice. What would he say in? How you say it like what does that? I'd love to have like your perspective of that. Pop. I think his genius is that a like a like a great parent. He loves his players unconditionally. And because he loves them he holds them to really high standards. And so you face both when you play for them. You know, you. No matter what you do you realize quickly man this guy. Really cares about me. You know, he knows your kids names. He he's asking you about things way beyond basketball. He's getting to know you. And then you're coming to work every day. And you you're not you're not bullshitting. Like, you can't you can't get away with with stuff. The, you know, a lot of players tried to get away with, you know, skipping practice not going that hard. He sees all of that. And he immediately calls you out on it. Hold you accountable for it. And does it with the whole team and pop will always tell you in an interview to I've seen it a million times that because he inherited David Robinson, Tim Duncan and they allowed him to coach them the way. He did everybody else had to fall in line. And and that's the truth. It, you know, your your best players have to accept coaching. But I think almost everybody would have fallen in line anyway with pop because he so genuine he so compassionate. He so competitive, he's got this amazing balance between life perspective and the details of hard work that that have to go win to winning at this level. And and a respect for everybody involved. And he just he looks after everybody, but he doesn't he doesn't give anybody any excuses either in it's a he gets away with it because of his his charisma his great personality in the fact that we all we all knew he he genuinely cared about us. I've heard that from players that I know on the team say it's practice scary in in its balanced. You know, because there's some death on the other side of it in. So that the what I hear you saying is high standards accountability. Eighty in deep care like right? And then so you I mean you've learned from legends. Okay. So Phil Jackson. What did you learn from one of the great coaches of all time? Oh, man. Where do I begin? Phil was the most unique coach by ever had. You know, he. He imparted his wisdom through storytelling. He was. Grow up in in South Dakota near an Indian tribe and fell in love with native American history, spirituality when he was a player for the next east to run basketball camps at our on reservations. And so we had this film room where we would gather every morning before practice that was darned with native American artifacts and in history, and he used the tribe as a metaphor for for our team. You know, we were a tribe. And and this is what this is how tribe or a small community has to function, and it was so genuine because Phil background. And so that that it was just powerful to to to gather each day and to hear him talk about how important our community was. And he just used all these different stories, and and thoughts that that made perfect sense. And he had this amazing way of of doing so. Okay. Lute Olson, also in the got a couple more insights want to understand from you. So lute Olson legendary coach on Wildcats early early influence for you imagine. Yeah. Probably the biggest influence for me in terms of getting my career going, you know, 'cause I was not highly recruited player by any means. I didn't really ever think about playing in the NBA. I thought I was hoping I could play in college. And I didn't didn't think it would go beyond that. So applying for for Lou was gave me sort of the foundation for everything that I've done since my career kinda show. He showed me and the rest of our guys how to build something from scratch terrorism. Lutes? First year, and they were literally the worst team in the country view before four in twenty four. I think it was the worst record than tech country, and that so he had to build everything from the ground up, and to to be part of that to see how he did it incredibly high standards in practice, but a culture of family that that existed in many ways, but you know, included included his life, Bobby who was like teen mom, and how we all felt special part of something special. And then he would just grind us for three hours. Everyday similar. I guess, you know, similar sort of characteristics to Gregg Popovich, you know. Hard work accountability. But a lot of empathy as well in this will go back to coach Phil Jackson. What were the one two or three things that he that you learned from or that he eggs uplifted or or even that he poured into you? So we got we got Greg. There's some clarity loot. Sounds like. Yeah. Some similarity, but from scratch in what what would you say the essence from your experience with coach Jackson was? I think. I think what I took from him was the his real genius was was not so much the Xs and os, and he was very good Xs and os coach and a lot of people have read about the triangle, offense and. You know, how that was the offense is run by the bulls and the Lakers in I think eleven championship runs in the NBA. But but the offense was almost a metaphor for how. How Phil wanted the team to interact. You know, it was a five-man offense. Everybody was constantly moving and touching the ball. And you had to have really good instincts feel and you had to work together and site. I think that was what I took from Phil was that. Like he used to say basketball metaphor for life and life is a metaphor for basketball. And I like that because it's truth. You know, how you live your life? And how you play the game. They sort of intersect. You know, they matter and then the triangle was sort of the epitome of all that. And I had never seen a coach who sort of explained it away. But where the style of play really. Represented the the values. Steve, what are you craving in life? What are you aching for? What do you what do you driven by like, what is the deeper part of your life? What what is that for? You is I know it's not winning and at the same time like that's kind of the placeholder for everything that you're doing. And and we'll we'll have to win in elite sport in life. You know, there's lots ways to measure winning. But like what is it that you're aching for the bubble? That's a good question. I think as a coach what I for as. The the perfect game. Which is not not just winning. When the game. But it's. Is that feeling when everybody is connected and joyful and competing together. And you know, there's no feeling like you can't can't find it in most most areas of life, but but you can feel so I love sports so much. She can when it happens or sometimes you can even see it on TV when you're watching another T. But when a group kind of reaches this this level where it's it's sort of exceeds just the talent in the in the the number of points. You score the one loss record. That's that's what I love more than anything about coaching is is maximizing potential, but but more than anything just feeling that. And the the whole group feeling this electricity that goes through it has it happens. That's that's the most important. Are you describing like a group flow like individual flow is when you are merged in immersed in the moment with action awareness in. It's the like, you know, his own if you will is what athletes call it. Are you talking about group flow in that way? Exactly what I'm talking about. Okay. Yeah. And then of all things, Steve why that why that for you? I think. I think that's what that's what life is about. Not you know, I don't not meaning to sound dramatic, you know, but whatever you do. In life to me. There's there's more joy and doing something with someone else than rather than doing it on your own. And there's a there's a level to reach that is hard to describe you know, when you're when you're when you're team is in the zone, you Aachen to the locker room. You can't you can't describe that feeling. It's so it's like, that's that's the feeling that is most important to me. That's what I live for. You know, probably what musicians seeker artists, you know. Keep whatever your own Benue is when you can achieve achieve that sort of group flow. It's there's nothing else that can match, and and that's what I constantly hoping for our team to achieve women's the last time you felt full peace. It's a good question in all set it up for you, not give you a little space to even think through because you're you're you guys are like leg. It's bigger than legacy. What we've done in capturing the hearts and spirits and minds to amplify the talent of the organization of the warriors is incredible right in it's beautiful in. It's not you're not doing it by accident in your doing it organically in feels like I'm watching these amazing flock of birds like hundred birds in the sky, and when one wants to tilt one way and kind of dipped down dive like everyone organizes around that that signal and they dive as well. And then another bird wants a flip up towards, you know, forty five degrees to the right in the whole organization birds flips it's like this beautiful thing that we're watching. And then I'm just curious how about P inner peace for you. Like when was the last time you had it? Well, it's it's a tough one. I think. You know, it it always intersects with coaching, and and how your team's doing intersects with your own life, and you know, what what your family's doing. And what you're kids are doing. I have three kids. They're all doing really, well and youngest one is in college. The older two are out and sell my wife, and I are empty nesters. Now have life has has changed pretty dramatically less couple years. And so even though I'm doing the same thing. Our family dynamics, changed and. So I look at it as as you know, when when you have everything lined up where everything is just right. That's that's a piece. That's that's what I think of when you mentioned, you know, peace peace of mind and. You know, that's that's the goal in. It's really elusive because everyone goes through stuff all the time and things happen. And you know, you you push for something. And you can't always just say, okay? I got it. It's you know, it's sort of many ways that never ended quest. Okay. And then how did you help prepare your athletes for success because post excess is really tricky, you know, and you know, I know that there's a concept that you're familiar with called disease of more in Rudy Kip yard talked about, you know, if you can meet triumph and disaster on treat those two imposters just the same like that's part of success for life in winning after winning is one of the great challenges because winning changes people in charge is the psychological makeup of individuals in the psychology of the team. And so how did you manage that very unique opportunity because not it's rare. It is rare to win a championship. Ryan it like you've done it a lot. So I wanna know how you manage post success? Yeah. I think. Probably been the biggest challenge for me with with our team. And I've talked to the guys who have been here at the whole time. We have five guys who have been here for all three championships. Klay Thompson, Steph curry Andrea Dalla Shaun Livingston Draymond green. They were the original five they've been here for all three. We had this discussion the other night, it's different now than it was the first year when we won our first championship in Cleveland in two thousand fifteen we've never felt anything like it. And. It was it was so mazing, and and so joyful, but then you do it again. And you do it again. And it's it becomes different becomes expected. You know, the first year everybody. We sort of snuck up on the NBA in that that you're now everybody's aiming for us. And so it's it's different. It's no matter what we do. It's never gonna feel the same. And so I try to focus on the detail. The the everyday the idea that we get to come in here and enjoy each other and enjoy the sport every single day, and that's not gonna last forever. But it's you know, if we're if we're thinking everything's gonna feel just like the first year while that's wrong. It's not, but it's new it's different and you have to embrace the new part of it, and you have to embrace the the different challenge. And and you do it all within that perspective that that Greg bothers talks about all the time when she is. Yeah. This might be hard. But. How lucky are we come in here? Do this every day. And that's that's what I tried on part on our team brilliant. Okay. As we're wrapping up here. How would you finish? This thought it all comes down to. At all comes down to. Because it really just depends on what, you know, each individual person is doing, but it's it is really the same thing as it. You know, whether it's a game or or a project, whatever it's just you know, it being the success of the group. I think I think authenticity would be the one word. Answer to that. I think when things feel real and tangible, I think. I think that's when there's the potential for for excellence. It's not lost them successes. Been part of your, you know, your experiences in life in last kind of big banger is how do you define articulate mastery? I think I see it with our team. You know, I I watch Kevin Durant in Steph curry Klay Thompson, everyday work on their they're shooting at the end of practice, and I just marvel at the attention to detail. These guys have a routine they all have their own individual routine. So when we finish practice, I'll go to their own basket all have their own coach assistant coach who goes through their routine with them, and it's every single day every single day, they're pushing themselves, they're pushing each other. And when you think these are possibly the three best shooters on earth. Definitely three of the very best on earth. No, no matter how you. Scale and here they are working on their craft every single day with such precision, and such dedication. That's mastery. It's beautiful the world needs Steve. Seriously to represent joy incompassion in high standards group harmony inflow all in an authentic way towards refining mastering oneself through craft in. You know? Just tell you that what a breath of fresh air, you are to the world in I feel lucky to know yet. And I'm just I'm stoked for the success. You've had and I know that there's been hard times in your life, and you come through that in an amazing way as well. So a looking forward to the next time that we can act, and I just want to thank you for a pre she ate. The kind words I want to say, thank you. Because everything you just mentioned. Honestly. U N P sort of helped me visualize, you know, five years ago about four four and a half years ago. Now in Seattle had all these great, great thoughts and ideas, but I you know, to actually sort of put those thoughts together and see see everything. For how it needed to be. You know, that that was one of the great lessons. I learned before I began this this job. So thank you for all the all the help you and Pete have given me what a treat what a real treat. I end it with everything we need is already inside us. It was already inside you. It's already inside all of us. It just does take the discernment the the care the community to amplify that with some consistency in. So onto like, I'm stoked to. No, you can't wait to see how you guys manage this year. And you're up against some challenges there in looking forward to the next time. We can break some bread get on whiteboard in go to work to it. Okay. Thank you, see all about okay?

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