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A highlight from Envision Your Success with the Transitions Innovation Awards
"Award -winning eye care professionals, I got it. Innovative and iconic brand, I got it. Tune in to today's podcast as we dive deep into some of the best eye care professionals in the world. Let's go. This is a Defocus Media production. What are your jobs? What's up everyone? It's your favorite optometrist, Dr. Daryl Glover. And I'm Dr. Jennifer Lyerly, resident optometry nerd. And welcome to Defocus Media, optometry's number one podcast, where we discuss the hottest topics, latest technology, eyewear, practice management, and more. So sit back, relax, and defocus. What's up, what's up everyone? It's your favorite optometrist, Dr. Daryl Glover. Today I'm super excited because I am with some friends and some colleagues that have really changed the game. Not only do they win awards, but they make an impact inside and outside the exam lane. Today we get to dive deep into my friends from the lovely company, Transition Opticals. And we're gonna talk about innovation awards. We're gonna talk about how they got there and talk about some of the impact. And you know, we got to include a little bit of style in there as well. But before we get started, let's talk to our guests. Let's learn a little bit more about them. And first up, we have the amazing Rose Harris. Rose, how are you doing today? Hi, Dr. Glover, I'm doing great. I'm glad to be here. I'm super excited to have you here. And for those that may be living under a rock that are not familiar with the amazing brand of Transitions Optical, if you don't mind maybe sharing your background and how you got into the organization as well, because I've known you for quite a bit of time. I remember meeting you for the first time when I was the first cohort for the Transitions Change Agents. And I just remember just having a great conversation with you, it was one of those impactful conversations that really drew me into this amazing brand known as Transitions Optical. So maybe if you don't mind sharing a bit about your background and what you do within the organization as well. Well, I never intended to get into the optical business. So it happened a little by accident, but I fell in love with it once I came in. I actually had worked for the Home Shopping Network in marketing there. And heard about this new startup company called Transitions who was looking for people to help with marketing. So basically have been there since the beginning and saw the company grow from nothing, very startup to the big brand that it is now. And through eight technology improvements along the way and launches of new products. So it's been a really, really fun ride. When I think about Transitions, I always think about other big iconic brands, but innovators just in the world. I put Transitions up there with your Apple's and your Microsoft's because they really are all about technology. And I know it's pretty cool to be on the marketing and branding side because you get the brand and market something that is just iconic and that changes lives day in and day out. So super excited to have you on the podcast today and can't wait to dive a little deeper about the awards. And I also wanna give you a special shout out because recently you received another award, right? Yes, the Vision Monday recognition of the influential women in eye care. So I was recognized in the innovator category. So that was quite an honor, very exciting. Awesome, awesome, amazing year. And I know you took on a new role this year as well. So you've truly been blessed this year with all types of great awards, but it's because of the impact that you make Rose, it's no doubt about it. Anyone that sits down and has a conversation with you, they know that your heart's in a good place and they know that you're gonna always push that brand forward but most importantly push eye care forward. So thank you so much. Next up, we got my colleague, my friend, Dr. Jen Chen. Dr. Jen, what's going on? Hi, I'm so excited to be here. Dr. Jen Chen, I'll give a little background on me. I am a second generation optometrist and I live in San Diego, California. I have been wearing transitions for as long as I can remember, probably from generation one. Like when I was a little kid getting cold four eyes, like I was the one wearing transition lenses ever since then. So I absolutely love the brand. I'm a huge advocate for it. And I love showcasing the portfolio to my patients as well as my friends and my followers. I love it, I love it. And that's the key, right? This is why you've been so successful and why you are a winner is because you practice what you preach, right? You're not just out here telling patients about a product or about a brand just to increase your margins or your bottom line. You're telling them about something that's gonna elevate their lifestyle, accommodate their lifestyle and take it to the next level. I've had the opportunity to know Jen for quite a bit of time. And when I think about folks that wear amazing eyewear and have the right lens technology to accompany that, you're definitely top of the list in my eyes. So thank you for always looking fly and fresh, but most importantly, preaching the gospel to all our patients out there, but also our colleagues as well. Thank you so much. Thank you. Yeah, all right, Camille, it's your turn, you're up. Tell us a little bit about yourself and your background and where you're from and what you represent and what you do, my friend. So I'm a district manager for New Look I Wear in Montreal. And so I'm an optician for more than 12 years now. And I've been working with New Look and during the seven years now, and I've been working with Transition as well during this time. So I've been working with Transition since 2016. And Transition for me is a lifestyle. So I have it in every pair of glasses I own. And because I'm a manager, I need to spread with my team the Transition love too. I love it. I love it. And I must say your eye wear is amazing. It is fantastic. I don't know if I can rock the heart look, but you know what? I don't mind being a trendsetter and being a little different. So maybe I might need to get some of those myself, right? But let's kind of jump into the mix. You know, when it comes to the awards, I love to learn a little bit more about it. And I think Rose, you might be able to really, you know, navigate this conversation. If you don't mind maybe sharing a little bit about the background and let's just kind of build from there if you don't mind, Rose. The Innovation Awards, they go way back. We started back around 1995, recognizing some of the people in the industry that we saw out there doing great things for their patients or just innovation in the industry itself. So we officially though in 2010 started the name of the awards to the Innovation Awards. And we just see so many of our customers or partners or eye care professionals doing amazing things out there. And we wanted to bring recognition and hold them up as examples to other eye care professionals, provides an inspiration and also to thank them for everything that they're doing to bring great patient care to the industry. I love it. So tell me this, let's break this down in a little more detail. Can anyone in the world actually apply to be a part of these awards? How does that work? Well, actually in the US and Canada, we have our version of the award. So anyone in Canada and US can apply for one of five different awards that we give. So there's the Transitions Healthy Sight Ambassador. And then we also recognize things for people who are doing exceptional things in training, for example, in education or and we recognize one practice from the US and from Canada every year for being the best eye care practice. So, but the other regions do do their own recognitions. And in fact, they all share the stage at our big annual event that we have Transitions Academy where all the winners are announced and the recognitions from around the world are given. I love it. And for those that have never attended a Transitions Academy please put it on your bucket list. Matter of fact, do it earlier in your career because the thing about Transitions Academy is yes, we recognize all our stars but the caliber of the speakers that help you more personally and also professionally it's just unmatched. And the networking opportunity that you have is unmatched. And most importantly, you get to learn about the new innovation and the technology that Transitions brings to the market. It is definitely hands down my favorite place to go every single year to rub elbows with some of the best people in the world but most importantly, to see Rose smile as well. You know, it's just a fantastic place to be. Rose, why have you on this call? I gotta take full advantage of this because you've been in the game for a while clearly, right? And by the way, my mom, she watches Home Shopping Network all the time and she's been ever older today, so. I haven't had anything to do with it in a long time but when it was a startup, it was pretty exciting, yes. Yeah, she loves that channel. She's always showing me something to say, do you need this? I'm like, well, I don't be happy to use for that. I'm sending you this stuff. But Rose, check it out. I would love to learn what was your most impactful moment at Transitions Academy? Because every year I go, I just, it's like it's a new impactful moment that surpasses the previous one. So with you being at so many, I would love to just know that most impactful moment that you experienced at Transitions Academy. Well, I mean, I think the caliber of the keynote speakers, there's so many that I can remember, but we had a bucket list speaker. Oh gosh, I'm on the spot now. I can't remember his name, but he really made you think, what are the things that you want to do before you die? What are you doing to get there? And I ended up getting his book and making a lot of decisions in my life. And I'm still following that and going places and doing things that I was dreaming of. So I think personally that made a big impact on me. But I have to say that the Innovation Awards is what I get the most excited about because people it's like Dr. Chen, Camilla that are up there and seeing their passion for what they do. It's so inspiring. And I mean, it just lifts us all up in our company. We walk away so inspired by what they've accomplished and knowing them personally too, feeling so proud. Absolutely, absolutely. And that's a great segue because we do have two award winners on the show this evening, Dr. Chen and Camilla. And I would love to learn a little bit more about your journey to being these rock stars that you are in ICARE, right? So maybe if you don't mind, and Dr. Chen, we can start off with you just telling us about the award that you won and maybe walk us through the process of what it looked like to get there. Yeah. So I won the Brand Ambassador Award, which is now technically the Healthy Side Ambassador Award. And the whole process behind it is just basically finding a goal of what you want to do. So for me, it was about showcasing that Transitions is a lifestyle brand, like we had already mentioned, and showcasing that it can be young, fun, and hip, especially for people my age and my demographics. So especially in my practice, I have age range of like 20 to 55 is like a majority of my patients. So that was something that was huge for me is showcasing this brand is in a different light to them because a lot of them are familiar with what the product is and what the technology is, but they've only seen it on their parents or grandparents. And that was a huge thing for me is like, OK, well, you can wear it when you're at the beach. You can wear it when you're hiking. You can even wear it to a wedding. You can wear it when you're at work, at the gym, whatever you're doing, this is going to help protect your eyes. So that was one of my big goals. And using my platform of social media was the best way for me to get the information and showcasing everything out to people, as well as to my patients. So I love it. And you do a fantastic job on social media as well. There's fantastic content. And of course, the eyewear is always fabulous. I look to see what you're wearing every single day and what type of content you're going to put out. So continue the great work on that end. And I think it's important to serve as an ambassador, right? We can push our profession forward, but it's up to us, right? We have to practice what we preach. If we wear a certain style frame for a reason, or if we wear it or use a certain style lens technology, we have to be able to tell the story. We have to understand the brand. And the one thing that I love about Transitions is that they help you tell the story. Again, Transitions Academy, they really break it down from top to bottom. And they really help you to be able to navigate that -patient doctor relationship, that optician -patient relationship. That way, you can always help patients elevate whatever they're doing day in and day out. Tell me about the journey to get there. Was it difficult to apply? Or what did that look like in general? It wasn't difficult to apply in the sense of anybody, for the most part, can do it. But it is a little bit of a lengthy process. So it's not just like you have to look at one period of time. It's an entire year. So you have to plan for it. So let's say if you're planning to go for next year, you have to start planning now so that you can execute your goals in 2024. So they want to look at, OK, what impact did you actually make? And what were the steps that you actually took to gain following or gain traction or educate people, gain more sales, whatever your goals may be. So it's a little bit about planning and understanding how you can impact the community with whatever goal you have in mind. I love that. And when I hear all of that, you win all around. Because the more education and more knowledge, the more impact you make, the more patients that are going to come into your practice. And at the end of the day, it will increase your margins. So you win all around when it comes to these awards. Now, come here. You got to talk to me about your award. Kind of do the same thing. Walk me through the process. What did you win? And what was the process like for you as well? OK, so I won the Healthy Side Ambassador for 2022. And at first, what inspired me to submit was that, in fact, I wanted to share with others. So I wanted to give motivation also to my colleague that if we put some efforts in a product that we really believe in, we can find recognition. So I wanted them to be motivated to promote the product and to believe in the product also. So that was my first idea when I submit. And it was really easy. In fact, as Dr. Chin says, that we need to plan all the year long. So if I have a tip to give to someone who wants to submit, I would say to not hesitate to mention all the small actions that you have done during all the year. So what matters is to plan the seed about the product as much as you can and to remind the others to do the same. In short, all actions count. So you need to count all actions. Even if they seem to be small, if you plant a seed during the year, it's a good action to help to promote the product and to talk about it as well. I love it. So the million dollar question is, I mean, you both are winners, right? My question for you is, when you got this award, what frames were you wearing and what transition lens technology were you wearing? I want to know everything from the color, whether it's extractive, whether it was style, mirror, whatever it was. Let's break it down because you two ladies have too much swag, too much style, not to have this conversation. So Kamea, let's start with you, if you don't mind sharing what you were wearing that day. I guess you know. You already know which glasses I was wearing that day. So this is exactly the pink heart -shaped frame that I wear that day. And in fact, the frame is photochromic, so it's going to change color with the sun, under the sun. And same as my lenses, I wear the extractive gray polarized lenses inside. So this way, I wanted to emphasize the shape of my frame. And the color, the gray color is going to complement my frame this way. I love it. You know, the extractive is my personal favorite when it comes to transitions. I just always say this. I probably said this a million times on the podcast. I like the extractive because I have mild tint on the lens. It just makes your frame pop. I mean, right now, I'm wearing Transitions Extractive Brown, right? And it really complements that tortoise. And the mid -tint with the extractive is phenomenal. It has so much style, so much flair, so much flavor. I always get tons of comments. I was actually out in Vegas this past weekend, and I'm always wearing these and some of my other glasses. And folks are like, man, you didn't bring any sunglasses with you? It's hot out here. It's a lot of sun. And I was like, just wait. I walk outside, and they see that they're tinted, and they're just, their mind is blown, right? But with that being said, there's a lot of work for us to do. If my closest colleagues, my best friend, didn't realize that Transitions technology is advanced in this next level, I'm not doing my job. But how many of our other colleagues out there are not doing the same? We all got to step it up and be ambassadors for eye care, but also the amazing lens technology that's out there. Now, I got one more question for you. When you won that award, if you could say maybe one word to describe that feeling, what would that one word be? Fashionable. I love it. And you are, my friend, definitely fashionable. No doubt about that. Thank you. All right, Dr. Chen, you got to talk to me. What were you wearing? And talk to me about the lens technology as well. Yeah, so I was wearing this white dress, suit dress. And so I had a pair of white Aetna Barcelona frames that I have styled with the signature Gen 8 in emerald. So they have the green color tint when they activate in the sun. And I just chose it because it was a white frame and because it matched my dress. So I loved it. But I styled it with the emerald to begin with because I wanted a little pop of color. And it was my first pair of emerald. So I absolutely loved it. But yeah. I love it. I love it. Again, a fashionista. Question for you. What's your one word that would describe that feeling that you got when you received that award? Energetic, probably. OK, fashionable and energetic. I love it. Buy both of those and put it in a pair of eyewear. And you're going to be killing the scene for sure. That's no doubt about that. Rose, I'm going to ask you the same question. I know you weren't on the stage getting the award. But you were at the show. You were at the Academy, right? You were at the award ceremony. What were you wearing that day? Do you recall? And what style transitions you were wearing? Oh, Rose, let's unmute you there. Yes, so yeah. So for the award ceremony, I do try to plan what I'm going to wear that would also work for the party after and be ready for that. So I think that I was wearing the same pair that I am now, which is a Ray -Ban frame in the clear. And then I also have emerald in these. I love it when I go outside. And with a clear frame, it really highlights the lenses too. Yeah, absolutely. You know, one frame that I love and one color that I love, it was Dr. Chen. I believe you have this pink frame with a pink mirror. I will never forget that style combination. Every time you wear that, it just pops, right? Please tell me you wore that and you went to go see the Barbie movie. Because I know everyone's been going crazy over that. They get ripped out and pink and all that other jazz. Have you done that yet? If not, please make it happen. I will. I haven't done it yet. But soon, soon. Got to take pictures for us for sure. But no, this has been great. Rose, for those that want to prepare and maybe submit their name and take this journey and make an impact, like these lovely stars that we have on the show today, you know, what's the process look like? How do they make that happen, if you don't mind sharing that a little bit? Sure. And I did want to mention that, you know, of course, having, you know, working with transitions and having innovative ways that you present it to your patients is one thing that we like to see, you know, how are you using some of the tools that we have, maybe, or coming up with your own ways. But we also look at some of our company values, like quality, education. What are you doing to service your patients in the community? You know, basically, your patient care, too. So there's lots, you know, it's not just all about the Transitions product, per se. So these are people that are all doing great things all around. So the process is pretty simple. You go to transitions .com slash awards, transitionspro .com slash awards, and you go there and there's, we have examples, we have some stories about previous winners, we have templates that you can download of the application. And just it walks you through the process. And then watch for the announcement that we're open for submissions at the end of the year. So we'll be taking in Q4, we'll be taking, the beginning of Q4, we'll be taking the submissions for the winners for this year, for 2023, which will then be awarded at our academy in February next year in 2024. I love it. I love it. Well, ladies, if you could give one last piece of advice when it comes to, you know, just creating an impact in the eye care industry, especially through that -patient, doctor that optician -patient interaction, what advice would you give to all our colleagues out there? Because clearly, you two have made an impact, you've made a difference, and you've really helped patients live their best lives. So Dr. Jen, if you don't mind maybe sharing, what advice do you have to make an impact with that patient that's sitting in front of all of our colleagues day in and day out? Yeah, this is something I always think about and I tell people about all the time, when you're in healthcare, especially in eye care, you're an educator. So all you're doing is making a connection with the patient and giving them advice and recommendations and also educating them on ways that they can improve their lifestyle, improve their visual comfort, improve their health, their vision in so many different ways. So just remember that you have such an impact on somebody and you are an educator. They're coming to you because you're a specialist in your field and you know everything that you need to know that you can provide for them. So definitely providing the right information and being a resource for them. I love it, I love it. Camilla, your next up, my friend. For me, I will say maybe play with colors. So don't hesitate to think outside the box by presenting other type of combination of color, of frame and transition color, and also to lead the conversation with frame style during the frame selection. So you open the conversation at this point, they will know it exists and then you will see with the needs of the clients what kind of transition it will meet. And I don't know if everyone listening and watching has just made a connection of what just took place. You heard Rose discuss one of the core values of this organization is education. These two award winners have basically stated that they're all about education in order to make that impact. Whether it's telling the patient what's going on and connecting the right lens solution or connecting them with the right color lens solution and the right type of transitions. But that's in the DNA and transitions. Friends, colleagues, we have great opportunity at our fingertips to make an impact and a change every single day. Partnering with the right companies out there to help elevate your personal brand, your professional brand, but most importantly to make sure that your patients have the right tools and resources to be successful. Friends, I greatly appreciate y 'all hanging out with me today. This has been fantastic. I want everyone to go to transitionspro .com backslash awards and I want you to sign up. I want you to elevate your personal brand so you can elevate the eye care industry as well. Thank you again, ladies. I look forward to seeing you at the next Transitions Academy and hell, y 'all got me ready to go out and submit my name. I feel like I'm about to run a president election or something like that. So I might have to jump into the mix since it's gonna open up soon. But go to the website so you can read about it, the actual opportunity to click submit and all that or open up later on this year. But again, thank you so much for tuning in. It's your favorite optometrist, Dr. Darrell Glover. Stay healthy, stay positive, stay blessed, and most importantly, make an impact with innovative solutions like transitions. Until next time, peace. All right, colleagues, and it's a wrap. Thank you dearly for hanging out with the Defocus Media team. We hope truly something resonated with you. And if it did, be sure to give us five stars and make sure you follow us on all social media platforms, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, you named it. And our handle is at Defocus Media on all platforms. And until next time, be sure to keep it 2020 and we look forward to seeing you on the next episode.
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A highlight from Envision Your Success with the Transitions Innovation Awards
"Award -winning eye care professionals, I got it. Innovative and iconic brand, I got it. Tune in to today's podcast as we dive deep into some of the best eye care professionals in the world. Let's go. This is a Defocus Media production. What are your jobs? What's up everyone? It's your favorite optometrist, Dr. Daryl Glover. And I'm Dr. Jennifer Lyerly, resident optometry nerd. And welcome to Defocus Media, optometry's number one podcast, where we discuss the hottest topics, latest technology, eyewear, practice management, and more. So sit back, relax, and defocus. What's up, what's up everyone? It's your favorite optometrist, Dr. Daryl Glover. Today I'm super excited because I am with some friends and some colleagues that have really changed the game. Not only do they win awards, but they make an impact inside and outside the exam lane. Today we get to dive deep into my friends from the lovely company, Transition Opticals. And we're gonna talk about innovation awards. We're gonna talk about how they got there and talk about some of the impact. And you know, we got to include a little bit of style in there as well. But before we get started, let's talk to our guests. Let's learn a little bit more about them. And first up, we have the amazing Rose Harris. Rose, how are you doing today? Hi, Dr. Glover, I'm doing great. I'm glad to be here. I'm super excited to have you here. And for those that may be living under a rock that are not familiar with the amazing brand of Transitions Optical, if you don't mind maybe sharing your background and how you got into the organization as well, because I've known you for quite a bit of time. I remember meeting you for the first time when I was the first cohort for the Transitions Change Agents. And I just remember just having a great conversation with you, it was one of those impactful conversations that really drew me into this amazing brand known as Transitions Optical. So maybe if you don't mind sharing a bit about your background and what you do within the organization as well. Well, I never intended to get into the optical business. So it happened a little by accident, but I fell in love with it once I came in. I actually had worked for the Home Shopping Network in marketing there. And heard about this new startup company called Transitions who was looking for people to help with marketing. So basically have been there since the beginning and saw the company grow from nothing, very startup to the big brand that it is now. And through eight technology improvements along the way and launches of new products. So it's been a really, really fun ride. When I think about Transitions, I always think about other big iconic brands, but innovators just in the world. I put Transitions up there with your Apple's and your Microsoft's because they really are all about technology. And I know it's pretty cool to be on the marketing and branding side because you get the brand and market something that is just iconic and that changes lives day in and day out. So super excited to have you on the podcast today and can't wait to dive a little deeper about the awards. And I also wanna give you a special shout out because recently you received another award, right? Yes, the Vision Monday recognition of the influential women in eye care. So I was recognized in the innovator category. So that was quite an honor, very exciting. Awesome, awesome, amazing year. And I know you took on a new role this year as well. So you've truly been blessed this year with all types of great awards, but it's because of the impact that you make Rose, it's no doubt about it. Anyone that sits down and has a conversation with you, they know that your heart's in a good place and they know that you're gonna always push that brand forward but most importantly push eye care forward. So thank you so much.
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10% Happier with Dan Harris
"glover" Discussed on 10% Happier with Dan Harris
"And step parenting relationships is really important that you first build a relationship with the child before issuing discipline. Think of it as a person showing up in your life and telling you what to do. It's just weird, right? Like usually there is some relationship. And then we'll listen to a person. You don't want to be walking down a street and a stranger tells you stuff. It's like you listen to the people you have a relationship with. So if you have an issue with the child, it might be helpful to talk to your partner about it and also with lying, which is very common for not just kids to do, but humans in general to do, it's important to uncover what's under that behavior. What need is this person trying to have met? And also to develop some compassion and not look at it as she is a liar as much as she told a lie about the same because quantifying someone as a liar, it gives a whole being vibe. Like your whole being is live. And it's really not. It's like, you know, you tell us some fibs here and there. Maybe we all do, to some extent, or maybe many of us do to some extent, but it doesn't mean you're a completely bad person. I would be more interested in what's under that behavior and how can we help manage her issues around honesty? You're such a wizard at this stuff is fun to listen to your work. As we wheel toward the end of our time together, let me ask you, what did I fail to ask you? What did you fail to ask me? I feel like your questions were so on point. The only thing I can really think of is maybe what people hope to get from the book. Sure. What do you want people to get from the book? I want people to feel more connected and empowered when you grow up with some level of dysfunction in your family. When you, as an adult, have some level of dysfunction in your family, it can often feel like you are alone on an island because not many people talk about it. There's not many people in elementary school going, hey, my dad's an alcoholic too. You know, everybody's coloring and doing their own thing. There's not many people at work saying these are my issues. Please help me. And so there are a lot of people who have these issues, and that's what I love about Instagram sometimes. I look at the comments and when you see people going through these dysfunctional stories and it's like hundred people with the same story, it's like, wow. And they're all saying like, I didn't know other people dealt with this. I didn't know other people dealt with this. It feels really good to not be alone. And so hopefully in reading some of the case studies and my book, you feel more connected by understanding that these things happen to people that you are not the only person with unhealthy dynamics within your family. And empowered, you know, I want people to feel like they can do something about it, that it's not always about I need to find a whole new family, someone please adopt me. It's what can be repaired, what needs to be maybe discarded, what things need to be reviewed, what do you need to unmark? What can you do differently? There are options that your new book is called drama free, a guide to managing unhealthy family relationships. She also has a huge Instagram account more than 1.5 million followers. Ned, are there other resources you've put out into the world that you want to let people know about? Yes, I have another book called set boundaries, find peace, and I have a workbook called the set boundaries workbook. And on my website, I have some free resources for people to check out. I have some quizzes around boundaries and relationships and dysfunctional families. Nedra was on this show not too long ago talking about that book set boundaries find peace. So we'll put a link to that prior encounter in the show notes to this episode. In the meantime, nedra Glover tawab always a pleasure to talk to you. Thank you very much for making time. You're welcome. Thank you for having me. Thanks again to nedra Glover to wab. Thank you as well to everybody who worked so hard on this show. 10% happier is produced by DJ cashmere Gabrielle zuckerman Justine Davy and Lauren Smith are supervising producer is Marissa schneiderman, Kimi
10% Happier with Dan Harris
"glover" Discussed on 10% Happier with Dan Harris
"Don't we also have to have compassion for the other person as we go about setting these boundaries. Absolutely, we can set boundaries with kindness and compassion. The challenge with that is we think that when we say it kindly, that the other person is supposed to love it because we weren't gentle. And sometimes that's not the case. Again, the name of my book is drama free. Sometimes it's not you bringing the drama is the other person. So you can be as kind as possible and the other person has an entitlement to their reaction. Their reaction may be a bit chaotic. It might be a bit confrontational. It might be a bit aggressive. But it doesn't mean that you're delivery was wrong. Here's another nedra Glover tua expression that I like that I think is relevant to what we're talking about right now, which is how to deliver a message to somebody in your family about what you are and are not willing to accept. Here's your expression that I'm going to repeat back to you and see if I can get you to hold forth on. Shaming people doesn't make them better. I've seen shame used as a change tactic far too often. If I highlight what the disruption is, this person will get better. When you think of weight sometimes, if I tell them how I feel about their diet or what I think about how their body looks, they'll want to lose the weight, or they'll want to gain weight. And it's like, I don't think it works like that. I think what people say can be triggering and make you want to engage in those behaviors. You're trying to save the person from. When you're shaming them around what they do or don't do, how they may parent their children. You may not agree with it. There may be some things that they need to do differently, but shaming them isn't necessarily going to make them a better parent. Shaming someone isn't going to change their lifestyle. And it's, frankly, it's mean. It's unnecessary. I mean, sometimes shaming is saying you should just be like me. It's just saying that I disagree and I'm going to constantly tell you about it. It's not always nice. So it matters if what you're trying to change is like a dangerous behavior where the person is like harming themselves or harming someone else. But lots of times with shaming within families, it's around a person's lifestyle choices that are not harmful, that are not dangerous to anyone else. It's just a preference, you know? I can't imagine someone trying to change my eating style to their eating style because there's better than mine. Don't we all have choice and preferences. So it's really hard to try to use that as a change tactic and I think often it is a main way to get people to do what you want. What's the better way? Show up with love and maybe talk to them about what's happening. I have found that asking questions is much better than going in with your story of what you see. Because people know people know what's going on with their lives. If you're concerned about how someone is parenting their children, maybe starting with how are you feeling about parenting? And they may surprise you with their answers and say, oh my gosh, it's so overwhelming when I get off work. I have to do these things. And that creates the conversation. And that can guide whatever support or resource that you can offer for them. It may not be you showing up and saying, you're a terrible parent. That's not anything that a person responds to positively. We become defensive when people come in with the accusation of this is what I see and this is the way it is. People are more receptive when you're willing to have a conversation of concern with them because either way you're saying I care and I care needs to be a careful not a confrontation. So I want to talk to you about what you see going on from your perspective. Now sometimes people are in denial and they won't see anything. I've had those conversations with people too, where you might mention, hey, you seem a bit overwhelmed. Is there anything you'd like to talk about? No, no, I'm fine. Okay. But I don't think you leave it there. I think you're consistent in your pursuit of, hey, I hear you saying you're fine, but I noticed that you're a little snappy sometimes when I say certain things is that something that you've noticed too. So again, I was questions, I think, can be very informative, and it can give the person to speak about what's happening from their perspective. Because sometimes what I think is going on isn't actually what's happening with people. It's just my experience of it. I've gotten a lot of interesting insight from the person telling me directly what their story is. I'm just a highlight that point, because I think it's key. And this goes back to the early part of this conversation, we might be telling ourselves the story about X, Y, and Z family members who are in our view difficult, but to invoke Buddhism again, one of the things that we Buddhists talk about is not being attached to your views, not siding with yourself automatically and reflexively, not assuming that your stories are correct. And that seems like a really important tool to bring to bear here as we navigate a family life, which is almost by definition difficult. Yeah, it's really a lot of it is stepping outside of your story. We do get attached to a narrative. I see it so often where people are like, my mother is emotionally unavailable. My mother is this. My father is that my siblings are this. And it's like, that's the only thing we can see about that person. We can't think about the times when they did other things. That maybe don't support that narrative because we're only willing to see the one thing about them or we are only willing to chase that one narrative and not incorporate any other information or even talk to them about maybe what happened from their perspective. There's another really fascinating psychological dynamic that you identify in the book, you say that being a victim might feel better than accepting control sometimes. Why is that? Why would it feel better to stay the victim? And if that's the case, how do you break out of that dynamic? People say the victim sometimes because you don't have to do anything. Everything is being done to you. You're locus of control is outside of yourself. If you go to work in the Nick of time every day and you're like, oh my gosh, it's always traffic. This is terrible. I really hate this. These people drive crazy. It makes it really about other people instead of maybe I need to leave the house ten minutes earlier. Maybe I need to leave the house 15 minutes earlier. You know, there's a lot of power that we can have in situations that we choose not to exercise because making the other person the bad guy just feels better. It feels like we're less in control. We have left to do. There are more things happening to us than through us. And I happen to believe that there is some power we have particularly in our relationships and definitely in our lives that we can control, you know, when you think of, oh my gosh, this person is calling me too much. I think about all of the features that are now available on phones. You have do not disturb. You have the blocking, you can also say to the person, there's so many things we could do other than saying this person is controlling who I am in this moment. When do you just straight up end a relationship?
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"glover" Discussed on 10% Happier with Dan Harris
"You know, there's more than one way to help people. I think sometimes we automatically assume that it has to be me, but because of my experience as a social worker, I used to do case management. I could get really creative with helping people without putting myself in the mix. You know, there are resources that are available when some people need things, maybe it's a matter of 5 of us pitching in to help and not just me. So really getting creative with how we can be hopeful. Sometimes it's helpful to refer people to a book to read or a resource and not always jump in to save. But it does take some self awareness to see, what am I really motivated by here? Am I helping because it's actually in some ways the path of least resistance or am I not helping because I'm actually too lazy or I don't give a shit tracking your motivations in the midst of all of this and making the right decision in these thorny ethical quandaries that being in family relationships can produce. This is not easy stuff. Absolutely, it takes a humongous amount of self awareness and that's why this book is so important. And I think a lot of the key concepts, it's repeated in some ways so that you really get it. And you understand these are the things. This is what you need to look out for. This is something you might encounter because we're not always aware. You know, we often think that like I said, dysfunction is like murder, violence, rape, and it could be like, when my parents came home from work, they didn't talk to me and my siblings. They just went to their rooms. It's like, isn't that emotional neglect? Those things matter too. So we can't have this one sided way of thinking about, okay, well, my life was great because I didn't experience this one really horrific thing. Maybe there are some other things. I don't believe in perfect families. I believe I'm pretty good ones. I think some people have wonderful upbringings, but there may be some things, even in our adult relationships, because it's not about childhood all the time. Even in our adult relationships that we want to work through with our family members. Coming up nedra Glover to wab talks about what to remember if you choose to spend time with a family member with whom you have a difficult relationship. Things you can control in family relationships, including what topics are off limits and why shaming people does not make
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"glover" Discussed on 10% Happier with Dan Harris
"Nedra Glover toab. Welcome back to the show. Thank you for having me again. It's a pleasure. Congratulations on your new book. If you're comfortable, let me ask you a personal question and you can obviously not answer this if you're uncomfortable, but you mentioned in the book that you had some to use the psychological term here adverse childhood experiences that there were some tough things that went on in your childhood. Would you be willing to talk about that as a jumping off point? Yes, I would. So I grew up in a home with a single mother. And there was substance abuse, certainly, and my family, multiple family members. There was verbal abuse. I've witnessed domestic violence and I've grown up around people who suffered from mental health issues. I think sometimes we don't know what that is until we leave our homes and we see like, oh, wow, this isn't the norm for other people, but within our systems, you know, we think it is the norm, or at least I thought it was the norm until I start, you know, maybe go on to sleepovers and talking to other people and I'm like, oh wow. So your dad doesn't drink. So very early on I knew something was a little bit different and also that those differences made things more problematic. And how have you managed this dynamic as you've become an adult and a mental health professional and somebody who advises other people on family drama? You know, lots of therapy, lots of honesty with myself, lots of repairing of relationships, placing boundaries, all of the things that you may see me suggest, right? So it's not unpracticed material. It's all very practice. It's strategic. It is a lifelong process. That's how I know that, you know, we are continuously healing. There may be times where I feel better about something. And then it comes back up with being a therapist is really helpful for me to have my own therapist. So as people are talking about their stuff, I'm not re experiencing or I'm not having any trauma in those situations, but I definitely think that my level of insight is personal. And it appears that, you know, that makes people more comfortable, even if they don't know about it. You know, my clients aren't privy to my private life, but there is some comfort in some of the things I say because it's like, yeah, that's exactly it. I'm like, I know, because it is also my experience. I think it's useful also in the context of the discussion you and I are going to have because people will know that you are no stranger to family drama and that the things you've recommended have been tested in the laboratory of your own life. Yes, the therapist and the patient. It's interesting to have this discussion with you because just coming from my perspective, I've just had an enormously lucky life. Not to say that there's been no family drama, but I may represent somebody on a different end of the spectrum and I say that because I want to serve all listeners. I assume there are going to be a lot of listeners on this podcast who are going to say, yeah, I completely resonate with the descriptions that nedra gave of her own childhood. And I think there are probably a lot of people who had a reasonably quite happy childhood and yes, definitely drama definitely difficult personalities within the nuclear and extended families, but way less dramatic. So how could we do this conversation in a way that speaks to everybody? I think we need a different definition of what this functional family is. Sometimes we do try to box it into like abuse and neglect and those things. And that is certainly this function, but I think there are things that happen within families like sibling rivalry or issues with in laws also challenges with your parents allowing you to be an adult and not try to control your life. It's not just trauma. It's so many other things. And I think that will bring more people into the conversation because yeah, all of us, we haven't experienced trauma. I think that's one leg of it, but there are so many other things that can make our relationships unhealthy with family members. Right, so this is in a one legged beast. This is more like an octopus and probably even more tentacles than that. There are so many flavors of dysfunction of drama and this conversation and your book speaks to the whole catastrophe. The whole catastrophe absolutely. So you begin the book by talking about getting a sense of what dysfunction looks like. Can you paint a picture for us? This function is having unhealthy ways of being today I created a piece of content on Instagram where I mentioned one level of dysfunction could be financial abuse within families. You have some situations where parents get bills that they don't pay in children's names. That could be dysfunctional because that sets the child up for future financial issues. Gossiping within the family could be dysfunctional. Also the abuse and neglect favoring one child over the other, maybe enmeshing with a child and trying to control their life in various ways. That could be dysfunctional. Anything that is unhealthy for you could be dysfunctional. I think in our relationships with family, certainly once we become adults, we have some ideas around how we prefer to be treated, what we like to share with people, what we don't want to share, how we want those relationships to go. And when people are pressing upon you that you have to do many other things because it is family, there may be some dysfunction in there. You lay out in the book several terms, use one of them just now enmeshment, but there are three terms you use, codependency, enmeshment, and boundary violations. And these are terms people may or may not have heard, just as they've moved through life, but it might be worth if you're up for it, just giving us some brief definitions of these terms. Well, boundary issues are not respecting the needs of other people or not being clear about what your needs are in your relationships. And families, you know, especially like parent child, I grew up doing a time where kids couldn't really have boundaries now fortunately. My mother was a boundary respecter. But other members of my family was like, you're a kid, you know, whatever happens happens, you have to listen. But sometimes that's not always healthy for kids, kids have emotions, they have feelings, you know, what they think is happening in their world is a big deal, just like it's a big deal for whatever is happening in an adult's world. They have physical boundaries. They have sexual boundaries. They have emotional boundaries. And as we become adults, we still have some parameters around how we want to be treated in relationships. Codependency is where we gather around an unhealthy behavior. We make excuses for it. We really build our life around supporting this thing all with the intention of saving this other person from themselves or from the situations that they create. Most often we hear codependency attached to substance abuse. But it could be other things in a family. Maybe you have a sibling who refuses to work and you're 70 year old mom is giving that person all of her resources and making excuses for this person and really being over compassionate with that person that could also be co dependency. And for enmeshment, it is when we emotionally entangle ourselves in the lives of other people within enmeshment, you are unable to have a separate identity. Now, of course, family is a culture. It's a cultural system. So we have certain ways of being within family systems. However, if you want to do something a little bit different, if you're in a meshed family, that's going to be problematic. If everybody has to be a teacher or everyone has to be an engineer or everyone has to go to college. They're composed a challenge when you decide to do something different because you want to because you see value in living a different type of life. Not always a negative type of life, but just different from what everyone else is doing in a mesh families, there is no room for anyone to be different. I have a
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"glover" Discussed on 10% Happier with Dan Harris
"Hey everybody, if you're part of a family, I am quite sure you've experienced some level of family drama. Maybe it's minor annoyances like an uncle who choose too loudly or maybe it's more serious stuff, like divorce, sibling, rivalry, alcoholism, or abuse. There are many flavors in this noxious cornucopia. And it goes right to one of the central conundrums of being a human, which is that we need other people to be happy, and yet other people can be a gigantic Titanic acid. My guest today is going to talk about how to deal with all kinds of family drama. Nedra Glover tawab is a licensed clinical social worker and the author of the book drama free, a guide to managing unhealthy family relationships, which will be released later this month and is available for pre order right now. This is her second appearance on the show. We had around about a year ago to talk about her bestselling book about boundary setting. In this conversation we talked about nadra's own experiences with family dysfunction, the terms boundary issues enmeshment and codependency. The uncomfortable realization that you might be at least part of the problem, the limits of compassion, what to remember if you choose to spend time with a family member with whom you have a difficult relationship. Why you should not un become yourself just to fit in with your family, why shaming people doesn't make them better and what does the temptation of receding into a victim mentality and how to avoid that? When to end a relationship, what the term toxic forgiveness means, and she also runs through some of the myths about forgiveness. And at the end, we do a lightning round of her remedies for various family drama scenarios, including how do you get your mom to see a therapist? This is, I should say, part two of our four part Valentine's Day counter programming series. Our thesis is that Valentine's Day is both overly rosy, sorry for the pun there, and also overly focused on one narrow band of human relationships. So we're going to go broad and a little dark here on this pod for Valentine's Day. Speaking of which, just a heads up that there are some brief mentions of rape and incest in this conversation, we also talk about substance abuse, sexual abuse and domestic abuse. One final thing to say here, there are a few stray sounds in the background, nothing major, just the nature of remote recording in pandemic. Okay, 2023 is here. Now it's time to start your healthy resolution. But taking that first step can be a little
Defocus Media Podcast Network
"glover" Discussed on Defocus Media Podcast Network
"Darrell Glover, super excited because I get to hang out with the best and I care. I get to hang out with my partner in crime. The one who started defocused media with me who changed the game elevated I care and still doing it to this day, doctor Jennifer Larry. And also we get to hang out with the famous young lady from 2020 glance, doctor. One and only one and only doctor Jackie garlic. How are you ladies doing today? Signed up after that intro there. I can never look at that. Those intros are so good. And they're so ad libbed. I'm impressed by that. Well, happy 2023, right? You know, every year we always come together and we talk about, you know, what happened throughout the year, the biggest trends, the latest news, what elevated eye care, what was great, was it so great. So today I'm super excited because I get to hang out with you two and really have good conversation and dialog, but also really just help the eye care industry because sometimes we just need to recap that we need a reset. And that's what we're going to make happen tonight. Does that sound about right? That's right. You know, as I was kind of prepping for what we were going to talk about tonight, I realized like, oh my gosh, this was so important for me to get my bearings about where we're at and where we're going. And I hope you guys come away from this podcast feeling is energized about 2023 as
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"glover" Discussed on Defocus Media
"Darrell Glover, super excited because I get to hang out with the best and I care. I get to hang out with my partner in crime. The one who started defocused media with me who changed the game elevated I care and still doing it to this day, doctor Jennifer Larry. And also we get to hang out with the famous young lady from 2020 glance, doctor. One and only one and only doctor Jackie garlic. How are you ladies doing today? Signed up after that intro there. I can never look at that. Those intros are so good. And they're so ad libbed. I'm impressed by that. Well, happy 2023, right? You know, every year we always come together and we talk about, you know, what happened throughout the year, the biggest trends, the latest news, what elevated eye care, what was great, was it so great. So today I'm super excited because I get to hang out with you two and really have good conversation and dialog, but also really just help the eye care industry because sometimes we just need to recap that we need a reset. And that's what we're going to make happen tonight. Does that sound about right? That's right. You know, as I was kind of prepping for what we were going to talk about tonight, I realized like, oh my gosh, this was so important for me to get my bearings about where we're at and where we're going. And I hope you guys come away from this podcast feeling is energized about 2023 as I did after repairing this outline. So Jim, what's up? What have you been up to? I mean, I know the young one is growing and growing and growing, probably as tall as you now, but kind of give us a little breakdown of what's been going on in your life since I've seen you last. I have a three year old and I practice saying three days a week and my life is three times happier than this ever been. The promise of optometry being possible for a mom to be part time was one of the things that drew me to the career when I was in college and everything kind of panned out exactly how I had envisioned it and I'm really, really happy with my personal work life balance. Awesome, yeah, I had the opportunity to hang out with you at the Christmas party that we go to every single year. And when I saw you, you just look like you were glowing. That's so Mark, you look like he was glowing. So whatever it kind of juice, y'all got going on over there, keep it flowing, keep it going. And let's disseminate it to the rest of the eye care industry as well. But doctor Jackie, what's up? You got some big news. I mean, I look on mine. I see all this information, partnerships, opens, practice, 2020 glance. Come on, give us a breakdown. Let's be going on my friend. Yeah, the biggest thing for me this year are really 2020 two was the acquisition of 2020 glance. And so that is now in partnership with eyes on eye care. And it is wonderful. It's really great. I mean, I started writing 2020 glance and 2016, probably the same time I met you guys, actually. That's probably how we met. Yeah. Yeah, I started as a way to help our colleagues stay up to date and feel like they can treat our patients better if we have all of the knowledge that we need and I'm happy that it is the great grew into what it is and that now eyes on eye care has acquired it and I'm working with them and I'm still writing the email so that weekly email is still coming out that is every Monday morning at 5 a.m. with all of just the clinically relevant optometry views. So I'm still writing that, but there's just going to be a lot more development of 2020 glance, including the website, which has all of the news stories.
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"glover" Discussed on Defocus Media
"That lack of comprehension could potentially mean that they were not going to get the care that they needed and maybe let's say that it would have led to something catastrophic like blindness or some sort of other really catastrophic result. Can you think about that? Well, I mean, we could take something real basic. Not wearing glasses, patients that come in and you prescribe something and they're not wearing their glasses. I mean, you go out, you can't see you get in a car accident. You could hurt yourself or you could hurt someone else. There's one option right there. That's an easy one. That one I can do in my sleep. So you now say to the patient, you really need glasses. And they say, eh, I'll take the prescription. I'll go online. And you say, yeah, but you really need to get them adjusted properly. So you really need to get them here. And they say, eh, I bought them for more before. It's no problem. Oh, you mean these ones, the ones who you brought in here with me? Yes. Oh, just so you know, those are off by about 20, 30% of what your actual prescription should be. And because they're ill proper in their fit, you're not even getting the optimal advantage. Oh, but it's okay. It's okay, doctor Glover. Okay, so let's try something new patient. I'm going to go ahead and sit you down at this game, the simulator. And I'm going to let you do this quick little, it's like a 5 second exercise. You're going to go around the race course and you're going to do it once, and you're going to see the screen the way you should see it in perfect vision. And then we're going to distort it by just the same amount that you would potentially have if you were driving on the road and bad lighting conditions and on a bad weather situation. Because we're not talking about how well do you see today in my fluorescent lighting with me here. And with very little pressure on you, we're talking about how are you going to see the next time you're on the road at night when you're trying to get home
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"glover" Discussed on Defocus Media
"So on a weekly basis, I'm talking to about four or 5 other leaders who are almost nearing retirement, trying to benefit as much information from them as I possibly can. So that as I evolve as a leader, as I evolve as a professional, I'm not making the same mistakes that they did. I can be able to go beyond what they have experienced so that those that are going to be coming after me can be able to do far more than what you and I are currently doing for the ica industry. So for me, leadership toxic lover is this. Who can you pull people up? And can you get something from that person? In order to pull forward, to push forward. That's how I see leadership doctor Glover. And everything that I've done, whether it be speaking engagement, whether it be writing books, is just putting resources in people's hands. Number one, to unlock the potential that exists in them. Number two, to let them thrive in their area of competency. And most importantly, if they are operating at our next level, it forces everyone else around them to operate it in another level. And it most certainly results in the patients experiencing IK or eye health management on a completely different level. That's how I approach leadership doctor Glover. Man, I love this OB and you know, I love that number one, you found the gap, right? You know, how do we create more leaders? How do we get more value out of leaders, right? You found that gap, right? You got here and here, right? And you're that person in the middle that's creating access to leadership. It wants to be students or these doctors get to that point of understanding that their leaders to your point. That's going to take eye care to the next level, right? Because absolutely. When you become an optometrist, you naturally become a leader. And sometimes, optometrists don't realize that. You are a leader. You are a leader
The Mason Minute
Final Season (MM #3986)
"The NASA minute. With Kevin mason over the last 24 to 48 hours, the Internet has been freaking out just a little bit. Because some of their favorite television shows have announced the final seasons are coming near. Stranger Things getting ready to release season four has announced a two part season four and then season 5 and that's it. Now when we see season 5, I don't know because we haven't even seen season four yet, but everybody's freaking out. It's going to be ending. Same thing with The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel on Amazon. They announced the next season or is it the third season? I don't know. I don't watch. Well, it's going away. That'll be it and of course, because it's so popular. Everybody's freaking out there. And then Donald Glover announces his TV show on FX, Atlanta will be ending with its fourth season. The one thing for these shows, while I love them, they're so sporadic. I never know when they're coming. I know I watched Stranger Things when it first came out. Misses maisel don't watch it, don't care and Atlanta, love the first season, not so much the second season and well. I'm not sure if I'm going to go back and watch again. A lot of people's TV viewing habits going to be changing all because their favorite shows are going away.
The Mason Minute
Final Season (MM #3986)
"The NASA minute. With Kevin mason over the last 24 to 48 hours, the Internet has been freaking out just a little bit. Because some of their favorite television shows have announced the final seasons are coming near. Stranger Things getting ready to release season four has announced a two part season four and then season 5 and that's it. Now when we see season 5, I don't know because we haven't even seen season four yet, but everybody's freaking out. It's going to be ending. Same thing with The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel on Amazon. They announced the next season or is it the third season? I don't know. I don't watch. Well, it's going away. That'll be it and of course, because it's so popular. Everybody's freaking out there. And then Donald Glover announces his TV show on FX, Atlanta will be ending with its fourth season. The one thing for these shows, while I love them, they're so sporadic. I never know when they're coming. I know I watched Stranger Things when it first came out. Misses maisel don't watch it, don't care and Atlanta, love the first season, not so much the second season and well. I'm not sure if I'm going to go back and watch again. A lot of people's TV viewing habits going to be changing all because their favorite shows are going away.
The Mason Minute
Final Season (MM #3986)
"The NASA minute. With Kevin mason over the last 24 to 48 hours, the Internet has been freaking out just a little bit. Because some of their favorite television shows have announced the final seasons are coming near. Stranger Things getting ready to release season four has announced a two part season four and then season 5 and that's it. Now when we see season 5, I don't know because we haven't even seen season four yet, but everybody's freaking out. It's going to be ending. Same thing with The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel on Amazon. They announced the next season or is it the third season? I don't know. I don't watch. Well, it's going away. That'll be it and of course, because it's so popular. Everybody's freaking out there. And then Donald Glover announces his TV show on FX, Atlanta will be ending with its fourth season. The one thing for these shows, while I love them, they're so sporadic. I never know when they're coming. I know I watched Stranger Things when it first came out. Misses maisel don't watch it, don't care and Atlanta, love the first season, not so much the second season and well. I'm not sure if I'm going to go back and watch again. A lot of people's TV viewing habits going to be changing all because their favorite shows are going away.
The Ultimate Health Podcast
The Importance of Boundaries With Therapist Nedra Glover Tawwab
"We're going to go deep into boundaries and as somebody who's written about boundaries your expert in the field. You've talked about how this has actually been something. That's been a challenge for you for nearly all your life. And you share the story in your book of when you're in grad school you went and saw therapist and the therapist gave the book boundaries. So talk about how that was a pivotal moment and how that change things. Yes so my serapis recommended of caught where you end. And i began in is the first time that i ever read about boundaries and i was like. Oh my gosh. This is life changing information. Why aren't people talking about this is. Why isn't this like require reading. And i have a friend and she's like remember that time. That therapist gave that bulk. And how much you talked about boundaries So for me. It was life changing. Because i didn't know that. I was struggling with boundary issues. I thought it was some other issue in really. It was an issue of fang now and sticking to it issues around Allowing people to have a reaction to your boundaries without trying to change your opinion or forcing them to understand you. I didn't necessarily have a challenge with setting the boundary. My issue was dealing with the reception after as set the boundaries. Okay so you're able to you know confronts probably the wrong word but express yourself with the person that you needed to you know instill boundary but then was it more just when they would push back. You weren't able to hold strong adsell absolutely terrible terrible and then i'll be like okay. Maybe i don't need his battery anymore. Maybe it's just me guys. And i would either renege on the boundary or i were hold the boundaries. Sometimes but i just felt that doing it because no one you know at least not the unhealthy folks in my circle baited agree with the daylight. Now you should absolutely give someone your last and you should absolutely help people when you cannot. That's actually healthy. And i was like really bow
The Unmistakable Creative Podcast
The Power of Giving Yourself Permission to Do What You Love
"And robin. Welcome to the creative. Thanks for taking the time to join us. Absolutely so i found out about you guys and your company bright blue gorilla when you guys wrote in and when i saw what you did i thought. Wow this is weird and it's cool. Which meant a kind of a no brainer for me has having you as But before we get into your work. I wanted to ask you. What did your parents do for work. And how did that end up. Shaping influencing the choices that you both made threat your lives and careers Interesting question. my dad was a salesman and His grandfather who came over from europe in the twenty s. He started business in new york and it was like stainless steel giant. Kettles that you cook bagels in or certain kinds of metal that they used on ships so my dad came out to california with my mom in the fifties and it was it was great because they were the first of the family to travel and get out of new york and leave tradition so my dad and mom really had a a pioneer spirit upcoming to a new place and setting up their lives here in los angeles. And i think that really influenced me that it's okay to go to new places and reinvent yourself and plus my dad. Being a salesman was a real people person. He's always been really good with people very friendly. Not afraid to talk to someone who doesn't know and That came in handy when i started booking our concert and film tours because you have to talk to a lot of people and you have to be persistent because you get a lot of knows along the way so i think i picked that up from my dad and my mom Mostly a homemaker but she was also into market research for a little while and she actually pretty good painter. So i think that influenced me plus. She always liked to wear bright colors.
AP News Radio
Glover With a 64 at John Deere Ends 10 Years Without a Win
"Lucas Glover is earned his first PGA victory in a decade by taking the John Deere classic by two shots in Illinois Glover birdied five of his final seven holes for a seven under sixty four that wrapped up his fourth career win and first since twenty eleven at quail hollow still play twenty five six seven events a year and I still can honestly say I come back and I can do it and but never doubted that Glover finished his run with a twelve foot birdie on the par five seventeen th and then a six foot putt to save par from the bunker on eighteen Ryan Moore and Kevin knight tied for second following sixty eights for others finished three shots back I'm Dave very
BBC Newsday
Richard Donner, Director of Superman and Goonies, Dies Aged 91
"The American film director Richard Donner, whose box office hits included Superman and the Woman has died. He was 91. The Warner Brothers studio described him as a pioneer of the modern superhero horror and action genres. The BBC's Adam Porter looks back at his life. Richard Donna began his career as an actor before becoming a TV director. After directing the Omen in 1976. He found international acclaim for his work on Superman. With Christopher Reeve, often regarded as the first modern superhero film. His hits in the 19 eighties included the Goonies and the Lethal Weapon series starring Mel Gibson and Danny Glover. Gibson said. Richard Donner had a huge chunk of humility, referring to himself as merely a traffic cop, while Steven Spielberg said Donna was like a favorite coach, smartest professor and
Nerd On! The Podcast
Phoebe Waller-Bridge Joins New 'Indiana Jones' Movie
"Any engines. Five has hired an actor to join the movie cast. And it's someone. I'm i'm very very excited about it. Is phoebe waller bridge. you're unfamiliar with. She wrote created and starred in fleabag. She also wrote the new james bond movie. That's coming out. And she is going to write and star in the new. Mr and mrs smith with donald glover. She's a she's incredible person. She's going to be joining the cast of indiana jones. Five for obviously. We don't know anything about the roles of the pot or anything like that except that harrison ford will be returning as jones. Because he's i'm indiana
Up First
Amazon union organizers deflated as vote tilts against them
"Workers at a warehouse in bessemer alabama voted against unionizing defeating. The hopes of labor organizers that this would be amazon's first unionized workplace in the united states would have been a rare victory and they traditionally add a union south but workers voted overwhelmingly against unionization by a margin of more than two to one here to talk to us about that. Is stephen basan. He is with our member station w. b. m. in birmingham. Hello good morning. Was this outcome. Surprise won't for a lot of people here yes. There was a lot of excitement. A real sense union had a chance now where this house is located about. Twenty minutes outside of birmingham surrounded by trees. Really not much else in on that. Drive there from birmingham. You see lots of pro union signs. There've been lots of rallies here with big headline names like actor danny glover bernie sanders coming through a congressional delegation but add the six thousand workers that actually work at this warehouse. Very few were showing up at these rallies. Mostly it's been crowds with out of state organizers for the unions or locals in alabama democrats shirts and not many people actually working for amazon so really we didn't know what most workers were thinking until the actual vote count this week where they delivered a definitive. No i mean so much. Attention has been sort of lavished on this vote. How is the mood. Change to after it was pretty crushing. Defeat more than two to one against the union and union. Try to keep up a brave face during a zoom press conference on friday. After the results organizers in the couple of workers spoke including emmett ashford who works at the amazon warehouse there. He sent a message to workers telling them to not get discouraged. The floodgates opened. We can't stop it. So i hope everybody has to get day this news as not discouraged as and we are holding our head high marching or and we will get what we deserve.
Page Publishing
First NYC Broadway Theater Opens Its Doors Since the Pandemic Began
"New York City's ST James Theater is the first Broadway theater to reopen, at least for a night since the pandemic began, three time Tony winner actor Nathan Lane and Tony winning choreographer Savion Glover performed in a special show for about 150 Frontline workers. Broadway theaters have been given the OK to reopen, but restrictions on crowd size has made it more difficult for them to do
WTOP 24 Hour News
Spacewalking astronauts manage possible ammonia leak
"Well, space walking astronauts are back safe inside the international space station after reading right ring their suits of any toxic ammonia. AP correspondent Ben Thomas. With more ready for me to come out, NASA's Victor Glover and Mike Hopkins had to take extra safety precautions after stepping outside Working on the space station's external cooling system. They had no trouble removing inventing a couple of old jumper cables to get rid of any ammonia still lingering in the lines. But so much spewed out of the first hose that mission control worried some of the frozen white flakes might have gotten on their suits. NASA did not want the ammonia, getting inside the space station and contaminating the cabin atmosphere. But after a nearly seven hour spacewalk, mission Control said the astronauts had spent so much time in sunlight. Any ammonia. Residue would have baked off.
Kim Komando
Spacewalking astronauts perform six-hour long repair on the International Space Station
"Two NASA astronauts are back safe inside the international space station After a walk in space. A couple of NASA astronauts took a saunter outside the international space station Saturday. They had some outdoor plumbing chores that needed doing, namely fixing the air conditioning system. Astronauts Victor Glover and Mike Hopkins, teaming up for the second time since performing back to back spacewalk six weeks ago on another repair job. One thing to be careful of venting ammonia. I thought it was more than I was expecting Justin this line, but it did stop. In addition, the out of this world handyman replaced an antenna for helmet cameras and tightened the connections on a European experiment platform. Talk about helping out your neighbors
Fork Report
Spacewalking astronauts perform six-hour long repair on the International Space Station
"NASA astronauts have wrapped up a seven hour spacewalk outside the international space station. It was the 237th space walk and the fifth one this year for astronauts Victor Glover and Mike Hopkins. They did some repairs and symptom systems upgrades as they floated around in
WTOP 24 Hour News
Astronauts step outside space station to wrap up work
"From the last spacewalk. Two spacewalkers stepped outside the international space station today to complete electrical connections with the European experiment platform and conduct other repairs. CBS News Space Consultant Bill Harwood has more astronauts Victor Glover and Mike Hopkins air working outside the International space station to carry out a variety of maintenance task. They're going to relocated ammonia coolant line. They're going to install a new wireless camera transceiver and make a few final connections to a new European experiment platform. They're also round a couple of Ethernet cables for use with the station's external WiFi system to watch video of that space.
Leo Laporte
Spacewalking astronauts wrap up maintenance work on space station
"Two NASA astronauts are wrapping up a seven hour spacewalk outside the International space station, Victor Glover and Mike Hawkins made some minor repairs and tackled some plumbing issues among their tasks. They had to invent a pair of ammonia cables used to repair a leak in the station's cooling system. The spacewalk today is the fifth for members of the US Russian Japanese
The Super Human Life
"glover" Discussed on The Super Human Life
"So and then if we're trying to put out all that trying to make all that better real quick so it makes us uncomfortable. We're just killing everything that that lets her be turned on and connected to us. So that's that's what the next books about love that love that. We'll we'll have to have you back on to to promote that. And i'm gonna send you if you don't mind i'm gonna send you last week's episode with dave because we did a i wanna hear that yes seventy five minute conversation all on fasting so yeah fascinating turns on what's known as cellular atop aji that's the killing off of the old cells and the creation of new cells We go deep on some of the spiritual side. How how fast is really a bio- hack. That's going to increase your energy and willpower. I think might be some stuff in there that you could actually pass along cure men that are struggling with making proper decisions in life because willpower simply have enough energy to make the necessary to the proper decision when faced with a difficult decision so this has been absolutely amazing. Let's you. We pledge our website. Where else can guys if they want to hear more about robert. We're hanging out these days or any of the social or anything like that. You know i. i'm on. I'm on social media but my assistant does all of that because i i don't love social media i that's a whole nother subject not a fan For it to me is a lot like porn. It just gives you the i b. Yeah it's you're you're looking everybody's highlight reel and doing compare saying you have no idea what's going on. I probably wouldn't have it if it didn't if it wasn't the number one driver you know revenue you know. We have to advertise me. I say that that's why only justification is for. I have no friends on my personal not. I'm not making that up. No friends but dr glover dot com is the best place to find me if they if they google robert glover if they google no more mister nice guy. I got all the top spots on both pages. So i'm easy enough to fight so guy guy appreciate you pointing people in my direction. Yeah no one percent. We're gonna we're gonna get this book. i mean. i know. I've already sold a few copies for you just with some of the client. Work that we've done here. Something to do everything i can because i think that this is a book that every guy needs to read it should be when they probably read on an annual basis Yeah just because you you know..
Stay-At-Home Son
"glover" Discussed on Stay-At-Home Son
"Engineering calls for sure every time. Yeah one hundred odd. Every time the first things my profit asked me to do is make control taken multiple control courses. I'm starting simulating. I'm like oh actually have no idea. And then tom just oh it's just this because he has so much design team. He's on rocketing. Yeah they'd probably control loop sleep exactly. Yeah so so. You're saying more. I think design teams are kind of under like people kind of stray away from and focus on school when in reality it's kind of the opposite of that like more practical experience when we really want to be good. You should be doing exactly. That's interesting i'm in. I'm in like an entirely different camp. Like this is the way i did it. In undergrad. i was just like a bunch of my friends. Were saying all. Like i got to get a job in my field. I gotta get a job. My field i was. I was just basically fucked out like a bit. I was like. I think i'm about to work my whole life in the fields sailing sailing coach for four four years. Five years seem sick job. I was a sailing coach basically all summer every summer from grade. Eleven till this year. I didn't do a single thing. I actually quit my internship early to go back to for like half the hourly wage. And so i'm in. This camp of life is pretty long. This is a personal opinion. Life is pretty long and short. Like i'm an electrical engineer by trade. Like i can do electrical engineering shit from twenty five till sixty if i want to but i was in a position where i was whatever has eighteen. I liked sailing in the grand scheme of things. I'm shit sailor like they'd like. Don't get me wrong. I'm not even a top twenty five sailor at queens university right now. oh okay. We queens queens like one of the best universities for sailing in canada. But like don't get me wrong. I'm not even the egmont even in the equation for competitive sailing. Yeah but i liked it. And i decided to do that at the start going in university of all. Just do this until i get a good ends job and then we're so naive and then i'll start doing good engineering things like maybe i'll save the world in my spare time. Yeah but push came to shove. And i was looking at myself and i was like. I'm not working fucking desk job when i can sail boats and drive motorboats for living. And you can't do that when you're forty if you get when you're forty it's weird. Yeah people are like look at us weirdos like hanging out with all the young kids. I'm not gonna lie. I was twenty two this year. I felt old. There's people on the on the sailing coach staff that were sixteen and having drinks like this is crazy. This is my first drink..
Stay-At-Home Son
"glover" Discussed on Stay-At-Home Son
"Same kinda thing where i take a technical requirement from a customer and i work with the sales team to essentially make sure the customer is getting. What they need is well as from our perspective. Make sure that we're leveraging the portfolio the right way up. Yeah and you've rented to no issues with your previous knowledge of stuff no and not doing the internship type of thing starting at the the company. I always figured that. I would be missing a lot and you day one with all training and it was like that for five months basically where we know much. Yeah we were learning learning in the in the guys. Who did internship started knowing quite a bit about never been their super helpful and they you know they jump on and You know try to help everybody. But i'd say within the first two weeks everybody was on the same field. It's interesting how that works out. Like how four eight months in the past really when you get down to brass tacks and you have a bunch of intelligent people that are trying to do the same thing. It really comes out to like. Maybe a two or three week had start. Maybe the company's going to teach you everything it. No you apply yourself and that and that's where i feel like the path you took as far as okay. I'm going to be self driven for three years. Any problem that comes up. It's gonna need to be solved one way or another and chances are it's going to be solving it. I feel like that's where you really have kind of created these habits of isolating the problem. Okay me personally. Alec glover. I will like allah find solution. And then we'll tell you what you haas. He literally hostile right. You're completely right about the internship allowing you to be more passive I took an internship at opie g. I was incredible experience. Great company big of a safety net of all the other people big. And exactly what you said about that safety net. If i didn't feel like i could do something i could just be like. Oh jeez. I don't think i could do worse case my manager. Who by the way wasn't angel. Jeez well if you try us. Yeah you've done it like i would have no client on the other end being like use. You suck like jack. I needed that like there's none of that like there was none of that do it or else Which i feel like. I'm also self driven so i ended up getting into a lot of those habits anyways like if i couldn't saw something i took it very personally. Because i'm an egotistical maniac. Nothing i was like sexy better than me by a lot of interns. If for example the instinct i don. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. But the single if they didn't get it or they couldn't solve it right away on their own..
Breaking the Glass Slipper: Women in science fiction, fantasy, and horror
"glover" Discussed on Breaking the Glass Slipper: Women in science fiction, fantasy, and horror
"I am working her hard working at the follow up for the moment. Don't wanna actually spoils. But yeah it's basically i like to as more likely do i always feel that they. It's all the different mysteries and different things like that. I know that if i could write like ten of millions long series for them they'll have different do different basic different adventures of blake of whether it's whether it's the community stuff people or people strangers being something like really extraordinary weird to them or something they they find going on this and stuff going around in town that they start investing more and kind of explore things in the meantime having stuff like going on with their lives with the friends lives kind of get involved with that and like zillion ideas for retention mr wiggins saw but other things going on in the background is. It's really funny. Because when i finally broke the doctors as a standalone this standalone store basically and i think my publisher was like. Let's let's make like it gave me a basically a two book deal like okay so other do with ex next story for them. Basically and of what second book is a few things i'd cut from the first book just mostly like distort facts and details that in a couple of characters actually that didn't have enough space to kinda grow to spread their wings in the first book that were better suited for what i had in. Mind the second book. I don't think it's as working the way up to the elite. Since always have not that i don't know i guess i like the idea of them working closer to home. I think i think i kind of developed within this particular that she's like stained bowl of like people who like uber wealthy and whatnot rightfully so in the sense it who knows what happens. It's gifting books right that if our conversation tonight has piqued your interest than the conductors is published at the beginning of march. I think it's the second of march the us and the full march over here in the uk breaking the glass slipper is written and produced by megan lee charlotte bond and lucy handsome. Please help us spread the word subscribe and leave a review on your preferred podcast platform. We want to hear from you. Let us know what you would like to hear on the next episode of breaking glass slipper..
Breaking the Glass Slipper: Women in science fiction, fantasy, and horror
"glover" Discussed on Breaking the Glass Slipper: Women in science fiction, fantasy, and horror
"Well. That's a great question. Because whenever i do it i kind of don't know the beginning and i have a few people and then i kinda go as probably him on another when i get christie started. She didn't he did she. Just see what happens but yeah how did you do nico- literally just wrote the book and got to the end finger who's left is essential suspect like that guy. And then i went back and revisions and meet ended all the red herrings for the other non-suspects the other suspects and made his motivation. Bigoted motivation more into the character. His there that stuff and yeah and make. Yeah that's just what the divisions but was sny was. I'm working on the follow up threat right at the moment. Not only more scheduled. I actually did like the detail awake. You know who's the victim. Who did it why it had. That basically broke that sheet. The first thing for even started writing out the drafts but yeah but the conductors was like. It's all a gaining like your. I had no idea when i was going to do it. But i think neither now going going forward. I think i'd gotten this schedule. That help knowing having idea who it is. Because i'm not really much of a person to like kind of plot things i think with the the mystery. You wanna have certain puzzle pieces in place. So that's like something i'd i'd be. I'd be careful about 'cause. I think united off but the same. Somebody's worried knowing it too much might make it too obvious. I'm telling thing in the book that is like oh this is obviously this person but then also leads me thinking like a the shifting of like how mistress can be can be viewed differently is more like less a who done it like more like. Why done it in a sense of classical mr about who did it but like more of like the classics like the knives out. That came out fairly recently with more..
Breaking the Glass Slipper: Women in science fiction, fantasy, and horror
"glover" Discussed on Breaking the Glass Slipper: Women in science fiction, fantasy, and horror
"So she threw walsh's loving philadelphia says she goes the highlight some things like when the fears of like confederate the coming to coming to invade the city that time or when the war was over declared over or when lincoln was shot in the news came to the city ends and i got little tidbits that plus her the day-to-day lives to all the visits. Her her friends and families even like her little counts of like the weather are being sick or but are things working and stuff like that was like a really nice fine. Because it's like something you really don't really see a lot to since she was also think. Accompany middle middle class to as it wasn't she's a wealthy really wealthy either which is kinda excuse some of the field day to day life as well as it was kind of weird on. Have i think these people do. They have like television internet whether they doing in their free time. It's stuff like that. That is so hard to find any information on the further back. You go in history. Let them impossible. It becomes net is a small things this day today. Even things like what sort of material they use in a certain building all. It's just this is the point where you kind of have siler. Okay this this is this happened but we don't know anything about it. I'm just going to have to like go with what seems as credible as possible. Ending also heard sometimes not not every reader. It's a really care about certain details announced. There will be a handful of people like oh. This isn't like the right colored paint. They had available that one of the things i loved about conduct to was the strong element of magic being in her sewing as my mother. So a lot mostly like just moseley miss things for us. She had gotten a sewing machine from a grandmother that she adventure replaced. When i got older. And i guess there's interesting history of like even i don't so myself i think the idea of like making something. How important sewing was and they get more research about like assist people sewing embroidering. To dress making to the tailing. All this other stuff. I was i was kind of fascinating with all the kind of work in skill with things and sometimes especially back in the day it used to be more personal like its own license all the work with until hours when things like that so i think the idea of being tied to her magic was kinda felt right to me and also oh something that gave her ability to move up in the world work wise like i think it's in the book i mentioned in her her back. Is that mitch. Mcco days when she was enslaved she was basically sowing was the way she had some value to the person people owned her as it was something she gots the gave her some value gave a little bit of power in that even even terrible situation she had once you moved in philadelphia in in after everything of freedom. Everything i'll all else follows a spike being able to show women dresses and all this other gave her ability to move. Employers and miami exaggerated the bit the book about her like being like. Oh i can her like wanting you feeling. I quit whenever. I want to give find another place because in the view of the book on the best dress makers in town. Whether is you know by coal. Straight showing with no magic or slowing with enchantment and. This is something i've wave. I guess is my way like mixing like a woman's power was sowing ends. Yeah well i find it really really tabu kind of magic. I mean you had some people within your well. The us ones but i i really thought it was..
Breaking the Glass Slipper: Women in science fiction, fantasy, and horror
"glover" Discussed on Breaking the Glass Slipper: Women in science fiction, fantasy, and horror
"The i met the wrong historical link but it was good that you could see. I love that bet. Yeah but your shot at your reference point is like one hundred years later which is I guess as nicole setting is of well. It's it's sad because we thought it was all happening in the nineteen sixties but it all happened in the eighteen sixties as well and then is a long long history of site. Yeah there's a long history of social rights movements for i guess basically since the country's been bounded there's been lots of free black populations in the north that ted Rights while they remember seeing stuff about a someone in new york eighteen thirty three books a bookshop that's published anti-slavery pamphlets and stuff. And it's yeah. It's a long history of different things than a beating. Everything that that's also writes all the deeds probably novacare. It had happened before Learned that basically generations gonna passing all this stuff so it's fascinating from a historical standpoint fasting for wool billing standpoint said from like a personal envoy to seeing this stuff in cycles but yes we are but to go on your other the question about whether the fantastic elements of the underground railroad. Yeah i'd stood file. Others are did by. The history lends a lot really easily to like the fantastical mostly. Because i had started either. My research was into some folktales bookstores to alongside historical research. I went deep into the african american. Folktales some clicked by story writer virginia hamilton and some other as folk till august like nor as oriental hurston and some other lesser known people who had collected for different decades particularly during the great depressions of the works parks of the wpa program. They had with the stories from former slaves for people are laid from their time kind of clicked towards then stories from people who third other people relatives family members like that. It's a lot of interesting elements of one things. One of the things that some of the books with collecting certain themes like was a theme which kinda shows up in toni. Morrison's song of solomon particularly and is because it ties into the whole idea with flying was a for disappearing from getting away from things. I've read stories that were like there was one story that remember reading about someone. His did a boat. The boat signicast. Cassie brought people from this freedom. The basically over during the night took a both across ends up like that. That was a folk story and really confirm or deny that personality existed in history but that story was inspired by accounts with things like that and underground railroad solve is like a metaphor for because they are the biggest. The real boom of royal roads was like eighteen ds in the rubber solve as the movement for things. Kinda gotten in its heyday in the eighteen fifties in the us time because that's where the fugitive slave act when the twins effect. And that really kinda..
Voices of Search by Searchmetrics
"glover" Discussed on Voices of Search by Searchmetrics
"So let's talk about what most marketers would consider getting people across the finish. Line <hes> you know. We've talked about building awareness. Getting in front of people that are in our personas talked about helping them build credibility and get educated on our class of products or services. And now this week. We want to talk about the bottom of the funnel. How do we get people to buy something. Whether it be a product or service talked me a little bit about the strategies behind building your fiscal your product content. Yeah well this is actually a really fun topic because <hes>. for me. I can quickly point out. Look clyde the value and importance of building continent the other stages because if you have an expectedly talk clients earlier in that process then is going to be very difficult for them to decision to choose. Us supplier or someone solve their problem and incensio. They're neat so <hes>. First and foremost that is critical. I mean i know we see in the car. By processors typically nine hundred or so digital interactions. This was from another study from google is not hundred interactions and is court eight hundred of them. Are emails that you didn't subscribe to but go on is true but you know i think that kinda helps us validate this point and and that point is you know if you are present throughout many of those interactions that you want present when they're looking to learn lines then you have less credibility when they're looking at the determined if your solution is right there so that's the importance of some of earlier content. If you're not teaching them then someone else is in there likely leading to their solutions so s person forms. You know there's a dating metaphor. And i'm going to try to say this without being crass vulgar or rude but you know <hes>. I will turn it back into a product conversation. If you're trying to get across the finish line and you haven't put in the legwork over you know a multiple series of date and you haven't sort of shown in our case that you're <hes>. Gentleman it's a tall ask and likely something that's going to be turned away and aggressively turned away if you go directly to the sale <hes>. You know people are gonna think that you're being pushy or aggressive. So i totally understand what you're talking about building the relationship building that credibility starting the customer journey earlier through awareness and education. But once you're building the relationship the right way <hes>. What are some of the tips in terms of the types of content that you need to have on those product pages to make sure that they're visible showing up and that they're converting so i been <hes>. I'm impressed that you manage to keep that analogy. Pg great job. Odd done could go sideways at any boards. So let me say this. I think we spend a lot of time talking about e commerce. And i do want to talk about some traditional ecommerce approaches types of content that align with this this kind of purchase and buying stage <hes>. But you know a large part of my background is in the bbc's and and the beat obese space there's typically multiple stakeholders involved in the buying process certain individuals get involved earlier on other men visuals megan in sort middle stages me may have some unknown stakeholders that tend to come into the mix at the later stages and so what we found. A b side is that there's very unique and civic content. That may be needed for. Let's say a cfo that hasn't been involved in the earliest stages the process at may not care about the the solution per say that you're solving for you know the head of marketing. Right you know. In those instances we're looking to create pieces of content. That uniquely address the questions that they're asking later on in that process so maybe that's a calculator to show the value of the roi of your solution. You know maybe some other type of downloadable content that your internal champions can leave on the desk of a cfo as a leave behind the help sell the value of that with an organization so on the bbc side with that looks like and i only bring that up because i think that there is some parallel that we can draw in the well so for customers and are looking to to make a purchase at the later stages. They're looking to answer this question of <hes>. Which solution is right for me right. So i've learned all of these things earlier into consideration. Stage you address all of my questions on you. The ba- helped me concussion things. I wasn't considering and now looking to determine if you as a provider are actually helping me saw for those things. Are you actually providing <hes>. Those needs that you helped me identify. And so i think based off of does the civic needs those solutions on. We should really take careful consideration around the type of content that we create to how <hes> answered those latest as questions <hes>. Sometimes that concept can come in the form of video. So i've told you <hes>. And i think we've used this example in the past that the blender example right. I told you the things that you should be thinking about. When you're choosing the right blender so let me show you the blenders that we have and the unique features and specs that we offer that aligns the things that told you before that you should be considering right so that type content may be in a form of video where we show you. How how that blender blends how this type of blade performs when you're cutting up this type of vegetable that we talked to you earlier on in this recipe content so this is at this stage. Were looking to understand. Odds answer the question of which solution is right for me. And that should be unique to every product that you offer is directly linked to the unique problems that you address earlier on in that consideration concepts