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"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

The Daily Beans

01:31 min | Last week

"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"Welcome back we are talking with. The host of justice matters former federal prosecutor. My friend glenn kirschner and glenn before the break you mentioned that this this particular defendant pleading guilty to a felony of obstructing congress in a proceeding. Which was verification of our election. Was a building block to work your way up the criminal ladder because when you mentioned the importance of the charge and the felony what clicked in my head was. This is probably bad news for the people who incited this riot. Can you talk a little bit about why and how. This is a building block for going up the ladder. Sure so charges like assaulting police officer which are horrific charges like unlawfully entering a federal building charges damaging government property once. You're in that building. Those are all Your legitimate charges. They should be prosecuted their contemptible. But what's what's really think most dangerous for the people who funded organized and incited what happened that day is when the people that they incited plead guilty or are convicted of going there to stop the democratic process because that is what trump don jr. mo brooks rudy giuliani and others urged them to do go down there and stop the democratic process. They called it a steel. Which is a win win prosecutors. Because they were lying to the people they were urging.

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"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

The Daily Beans

01:42 min | Last week

"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"University's vaccine mandate the governor of minnesota restricts conversion therapy in his state and sixteen members of a florida based white supremacist. Gang are indicted. I'm alison gill. And i'm dana goldberg. Hey dana how's it going today. Gm tuna right. How are you. i'm doing well. You're gearing up for some travel. You tomorrow travel day for houston. You're going to be Out you won't because in the show with me tomorrow but you'll be back. When for friday show no for thursday. She went his dab for thursday. Show yes. I will be back for thursday show awesome. Yeah well safe travels to you my friend. Thank you thank you. i'll be messed up. Gloved humping rabbit bunny suited up and has matt suited found. I'll be fine. i'll be fine. Good good yes stay safe. Stay safe out there with delta variant. I'm going to be talking later in the show with my good friend glenn kirschner twenty plus year federal prosecutor in dc. We're going to discuss the miscarriage of justice. I mentioned at the top of the show that went down in the dc district court this morning when a judge handed down a sentence of only eight months to an insurrectionist where prosecutors were seeking eighteen months and the federal sentencing guidelines are fifteen to twenty one. So and there's gonna be more of those you know it's going to be frustrating but we still have to soom. They're moving in the right direction. The i don't know though this this really kind of fucks it up for all the other prosecutors. I'd be i'd be pissed. If is a prosecutor in dc right now so we're gonna talk to him a little bit later. Because as he says justice matters but beyond that we do have a lot of headlines to get to dana so let notes hot notes. Okay for the lead story. I'm gonna rachel maddow hugh today..

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"glenn kirschner" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

05:46 min | Last week

"glenn kirschner" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

"I just have to as of fantastic prosecutor for many years. I mean we always knew this was a clown show glenn but this it's hard to pick the part of the reporting but so his second impeachment fewer lawyers are willing to work with him One who was david show and had a meltdown moments before they were about to begin the trial. Oh and then there was adam. No one knew who adam was but the team was waylaid leaving for the capital in their caravan because adam was taking a law school quiz zoom. We've gone through all the lawyers. Were now down to law students. So i know you're a law. Professor they law student and david show who. Let's just go through. This shown had now gone into a sullen alarming funk a strike of sorts it suddenly seemed only a day before the trial was to begin here was stopped. The trial crisis bruce. Castor had not provided a place for showings college age. Son simon to sit on the senate floor it was hardawy why someone would take on the defensive. Donald trump most lawyers over and over again had run from the opportunity. Where simon gonna sit. There is no place for simon. I was told that kids have simon with me shown was about to hyperventilate. As mcconnell aide stared in shock in the cold orbit of donald trump. That was only one. Man's feelings usually prevailed. This was a weird human meltdown. No one knew what to do. I was told. I could have simon sharon repeated. The room refused to look up or look at each other confounded by the idea that trump was about to be defended by a lawyer who seemed lawyer seemed about to cry. Showing flint folded his arms and explained that others have assistance and he has anyone caster. Explain that there wasn't a lot of room and it wasn't as if simon was involved in the case. Simon finally said dad dad. It's okay just moments before. The trial began finally moments before the second impeachment donald trump looked about to collapse into absurdities function. Tears with each person in the room like all people who had found themselves in trump were wondering how they had arrived at this freaky place. I mean what we saw and of course you can..

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"glenn kirschner" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

03:49 min | Last week

"glenn kirschner" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

"We wrote into happy hours. Jody hamilton happens to be here today. Were recording happy hour. Because i'm wearing my all. I want to drink wine and pet great periods t shirt. I don't drink whining. More joni striking for two of us for two now. Yes at nine o'clock and i'm a pedigree and perry's yes now's i can't sleep okay. Now he's can't leave. Listen and this was a week. Right was a tennis ball machine of firehoses. I mean a fire hose. Ten and a lot of books. It's a lot of fighting. Okay yeah i was particularly you know panicky this weekend so i needed to get me glen kirschner and also malcolm nominated scares the fuck out of me and then you technically glenn kirschner put the fuck back in. What's whoa what does that mean. What convinces me. Justice is coming from nance scares the living shit out of everybody right and then the gun. Kirschner comes along and says they're they're beautiful. It's going to be okay. Justices coming to his own way in his own way. Yes right exactly. He does those beautiful eyes over those blue. Anyway my point is they're both handsome romantic funk samantha's but they are there have. What's the term fierce urgency of now apps you were saying i don't think people are at enough i just all the revelations we heard this week. We can't just go like oh okay. Well that's normal for trump. None of this is normal. No no what was that voice now. What's that sound. You make on drinking tab right. And as and he said something about maggie haberman. And i read that article and it just angered me so so. I was halfway through drinking and a bit taboo over my microphone. Because it's an expensive microphone. That's going to be good sound. You make during all three. Are you gonna read all three of these books. And i go. I want the cliff notes. Version yeah exactly exhausting. It's exhausting us. His presidency It's a can't. I need here. Take glenn kushner and malcolm nance up your snoop. You're welcome adding up here. Hi good morning malcolm nance from an.

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Glenn Kirschner's Top Line Thoughts on the Criminal Probe of Trump Organization

The Daily Beans

02:41 min | 2 months ago

Glenn Kirschner's Top Line Thoughts on the Criminal Probe of Trump Organization

"To be joined today by my friend. Former federal prosecutor for many decades but not five decades like andrew. Giuliani claims that he's been in politics even though he's only thirty five years old and also hosted the justice matters podcasts. Justice matters youtube channel because welcome glen kirschner. Glenn welcome are you doing. I'm doing well thank you. It's been an interesting day so far in the news. I know biden just signed the anti asian hate act and hate crimes act and i think that that's a great speech that you made and we've got a lot going on and boy the investigative pressure. The legal troubles are mounting for the former guy as we learned just last night that not only is the new york attorney general tips james teaming up with Vance on the trump organization investigation making her civil suit also criminal investigation but that she has had a criminal investigation open against weisselberg. Cfo the trump organization and sent a letter letting them all know back in january. She's been doing this for months now. And i find that fascinating. And i was hoping to get your top line thoughts so top line thoughts are okay. What do we know based on this announcement by attorney general james and what can we reasonably infer. Well what we know. Is that if you're the target of an investigation and it goes from being a civil investigation to being a criminal investigation. We know that's bad for you. That's bad for donald trump. that's bad for the trump organization because civil investigations are all about money. All somebody can do to the target of a civil investigation is you know levy fines and penalties and make them pay restitution and then maybe at the most extreme they can prohibit you from running a business in the future kind of like when james shut down the trump charity and when she went after and is still going after the nra. But you know what civil doesn't land anybody in prison. Criminal can land people imprisoned. So we know that's bad for donald trump. We also know that too. Prosecutorial heads are better than one right. So tisch james has a full staff of lawyers with experience and expertise in certain areas and advance. The district attorney for manhattan has a whole battalion of lawyers with experience and expertise in certain areas. The fact that these two offices are jordan joining forces. I think spells real trouble for trump and

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"glenn kirschner" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

08:10 min | 3 months ago

"glenn kirschner" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

"Good morning frank. Good morning boy. You gotta sizzle reel for me. I don't even ask. We're sending directly to nicole wallace this morning. Yeah frank i mean obviously a lot of stuff going down with this so i where are we with the numbers on federal prosecutors revealed in new court. Filing they expect over one hundred more people will be criminally charged for january sixth. The prosecutor said the investigation and prosecution of the capital attack will likely be one of the largest in american history both in terms of the number of defendants prosecuted. The nature volume of the evidence over four hundred individuals have been charged in connection. Now right the investigation continues. The government expects at least one hundred additional individuals will be charged They are continuing to investigate the planning of the insurrection. While most of the cases have been brought against individual defendants the government is also an spirit stating a investigating conspiratorial activity that occurred prior to in on january six. So tell us what wreck. Because i know you even talked about in your twenty five years even since nine eleven. You haven't seen the scope of something like this right indeed. This has become the largest. Fbi investigation in euros history. And here's why you might think really bigger than nine eleven but the the reason is twofold at least i. It truly is involving every single. Fbi field office they l. a. Sadly every nook and cranny of this country has even even the most far-flung fbi offices and their satellite offices has subjects of investigation that participated in the insurrection. So it's literally involving all fifty six field offices and their satellites set. The sheer numbers involve the subjects. And i told yes indeed. It will meet the five hundred mark and even surpass stat but the volume of evidence. Now we're in you know we're in a digital age and all these knuckleheads felt it necessary to not only post their plans to go live on their facebook feeds or brag about it afterwards. So mom my personal favorite is wives and girlfriends and people on dating apps that turn them in. What do they say. No fury like a woman but the that the digital evidence is just overwhelming and being used if you read the complaints in charging documents prosecutors. You'll see references to the social media. So yes it's huge. But here's the more important part quite. Frankly it's that they're headed everyone. I talked to says look. They're headed into serious conspiracy charges. They they are getting to the bottom of leadership planning coordination. And i you know as recently as this morning i see people posting on social media. You know what's wrong with the fbi. Why isn't this moving faster. Why don't they have republicans. Chill out chill out. It's it's a very complicated investigation. But they are headed into relationships with planners advisors and we've gotten some garland's team in place literally because of all the republican extremism. But let's get to your piece. Why trump lawyers should fear the capital. Right confession confession. Let's get to the good stuff. So you write a longtime oath keepers. Veteran has been flipped. This only happens when prosecutors care more about the information the defendant can provide then about nailing him with a maximum sentence. They're even talking about a witness protection program right for this oath keeper so you say learning more about the oath keepers not just right for legal but you said could prevent future violence by revealing. How the paramilitary group recruits its members from among active duty retired law enforcement and military. That seems really key because that seems like a huge problem right now. So we're now seeing the first plea agreement and guilty glee and what does that. Lebron say this founding lifetime member of oath keepers has to cooperate with the government for his cleaning to stay in place. So why would prosecutors offer founding lifetime member okay for some kind of deal because they want what he has. They need his information. And you can imagine what he has to say about. Twelve years of oath keepers recruiting cops military active and former how that recruitment works the value of knowing that in terms of countering future extremism the connections between oh keepers and proud boys which appear now to be there and then last week you know the golden nugget. What if any coordination occurred with republican gop political and appointed officials in advice. Oh that's my sweet spot. Yeah right you said right how you said. the could disclose capers. Group is funded or directed by current or former political leaders advisors government officials could allow prosecutors to charge people in powerful positions who may have helped finance the Plan the capital riot. Here's the good part you said Schaefer may have insights into around then president. Donald trump including trump's advisors and his sycophants and congress might have coordinated or new plans For january six. I mean that's the that's where. We're i mean that's where we're going over should be going right. Yeah i i simply people who say oh my god they cut this deal. That's horrible. no no no no no. They cut this deal because he's worth more to them for information than locked up for the rest of his life in prison. That tells me they know he's got the good stuff. I think we should stay tuned to this. We also you know we. We also know that judges now are declining bail released on bail for proud with multiple problems members. They are going to be sitting there in lockup baloney sandwiches and protein loaf in the cafeteria and the prison. And they're gonna wanna start talking as well so even judges appointed by trump are looking at the evidence. And they're saying you are one dangerous character that i can't let out. I just saw that frank. I was just going to ask you that. Next judges being shown grizzly videos of the mom dragging capital costs. That has not yet been seen by the public. So even worse stuff than we've seen and you're right and in some cases trump appointed judges So that's i mean. I think that is significant. Right no question in my experience once you get people like this. Just sitting and marinating in a lockup somewhere they start to talk. They started to second. Guess why why. They're being so silent and off understand the threshold judge to decline bail on this pending trial. Is you the evidence is overwhelming that you are continuing danger to society. Well and you said. I don't know if this was on tv. I think but you said the magnitude of the charges will move from things like trespass on the salt. All the way up to conspiracy. And we're seeing more of that. And even possibly sedition even possibly an enterprise theory of approach which is under consideration to take down and dismantled groups like the problems and oath keepers so Yeah i mean this really is we really are in kind of a tip of the iceberg situation are we these cases take time. They're complicated. no. I'm talking about the enterprise. Theory even perhaps rico. Which is ill young is statute. They used against mafia cosa nostra. Hells angels i mean. Is there an organization there too proud boys and or oath keepers. That even can be dismantled and financially. I'm fascinated by the possibility that these guys could talk about foreign funding. Because you know there are four and adversaries pumping up the big ally the conspiracy trying to get us to go violent against each other if they know where their money is coming from. That would be fascinating and allow the government to dismantle them as an organization. Yeah talking to you russia Can i just a little off shoot. How great is it. To have a real american president putin appears to blinked and right and and what do you call step you know. He's pulled troops back from near ukraine. Right he is. I mean it really is amazing. That he really is a bully. And when you punch the bully in the.

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"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

The Daily Beans

05:30 min | 5 months ago

"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"Us attorney who she was supporting was taken very seriously and what. What is her job. she is the web. The non voting member of congress from the district of columbia so it that was that was just to appease the see like how. 'bout we'll give you representative. But she doesn't get the vote. Well did come on now. Why don't you just say that. She should work in the cafeteria. That's absurd much like the delegate of the virgin islands who we saw there. You go eloquently. A at the house management team to house managers blew me away. That was a master class of prostitution but one of the things that i think we should continue to fight for in earnest is getting full representation for the citizens of the district of india. Yeah yeah i wanna to do that and i. there's a couple other things. I wanna get set in place As far as you know passing the john lewis voting rights act before we kill the filibuster Because we are just one heartbeat away from losing the majority over there in the senate right now literally and. And so. I'm all for it. I just think we need to get our ducks in a row. Wise make sure that the people are represented properly and And then you know then move forward with that. That's just my own personal little opinion. They're finally we've already seen this. Civil suit filed by the nwa. See just a day or two after mitch. Mcconnell said there's going to be a lot of Civil suits and criminal prosecution so the acp filed their lawsuit. But how likely do you think it is. That trump will face these criminal charges for january six. And we've already discussed who should bring them. Probably the dc. Us attorney's office. But how how likely do you think it is. He'll face criminal charges at the federal level. I think i would bet one dollar of my own money. That's my betting limit. I'm not a betting man. I would bet one dollar of my own money to donald trump will end up as a defendant oath in state courts end in federal court. I think merrick garland with the public corruption piece in the domestic terrorism peace and the love of democracy peace. I don't think he's gonna let this go and he should. So you know. The civil suit is one thing that was just brought by the nwa. Cb on behalf of congressman bennie thompson. And it's a beautiful thing. I mean i love to see those defendants bunched together. Donald trump reg- leoni the proud boys. And the oh keeper spoke about birds of a feather weight. This jim slots together in the courtroom defending that soup because that is not a frivolous suit and i predict the judge will not grant the inevitable motion to dismiss and then discovery. So we've got something to look forward to there as well yeah agreed. Everyone sorta needs to hunker down patient. This administration has already proven they can quote unquote walk and chew gum at the same time and I have. I have full confidence in in merrick garland as well and whoever is appointed as as us attorneys a not just in dc but but across the nation of course except in delaware was a delaware seat. But i got to tell you that. That's another thing that gave me patriotic loose fox. Yes for the the the nor the expectation is an incoming president will ask for all. Us attorneys to resign so he can then appoint us attorneys. That share his law enforcement priorities and his philosophy but at and joe biden. kennedy said. yeah. I'm going to do that. I'd like all resignations. Except to john. Durham because i don't want to even give the appearance that i'm interfering into the investigation into the fbi opening an investigation into the the trump campaign while joe biden was vice president. Right so to leave. That alone is a thing of beauty and then a thing that is inspirational is leaving alone. The us attorney from delaware so he can complete his investigation into joe biden's son i mean if you're not inspired by that dedication to public service in joe biden then you don't have a pulse or you're not a patriot or you don't understand how government is supposed to work because he could he could fire them And people could complain and goes. Hey i'm the decider. We just think about all the things that all the people that were fired inspectors general. Us attorneys the trump administration. And how he didn't he didn't care It's it's nice to have someone that cares. And that upholds upholds those. Those long held beliefs in independent justice. So well i appreciate your time today. Glenn can you tell everyone where they can find. You can find me on youtube every day. I'm in the process of finishing up. Today's video which is about the lawsuit brought by congressman thompson in the nwa cpa. So i'm just glenn kirschner to matt irs over on youtube Over on patriotic. If you wanna come over and and support our efforts in our content you can sign up to become a patriots We have team justice that resides over patriot on twitter facebook. Not wherever you. You get your disinformation on. Probably they're not giving this information. Never once thank you so much former federal prosecutor. Msnbc legal analyst and justice matters guru. Glenn kirschner. I appreciate your time today. Everybody stick around. We'll be right.

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"glenn kirschner" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

03:17 min | 5 months ago

"glenn kirschner" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

"Tried forever is going to bring up so many daddy issues. I'm able to say good morning former. Gop congressman jolly. Hello david a good morning stephanie. Great to be with you. Great to be with you till i worshiped you from afar because come on. Hey stephanie. if that is true. Why does my buddy for nandy have his own music his own zone butter and i got nothing. Don't fight your both pretty now. We will jingle you. It's only your first time. You know. I mean i joke. You bring up my daddy issues but you know. My dad ran for vice. President with very water was chairman of the republican party was nurnberg prosecutor. I and i just. He's been gone. Davidson's eighty-three but i just this not only not gold waters party. It's not. I mean they would have to the arizona. Gop would have to send your very goldwater now right along with cindy mccain and everybody else wouldn't they. Yeah you're absolutely right. Definitely and i think there's a nuance that we've got to pay attention to. Which is the fights. We used to see within the party within the gop over moderates and conservatives and could the party be a big tent that big tent conversation was had on the ideological spectrum right. Is there room for new england. Republicans moderate republicans and newt gingrich conservatives. That's fine. We see that that ideological conversation happen within parties all the time. Democrats had their own just after the election the twain the ao seasons bamberger. What is different in. Today's republican party is trying to coalesce a big tent not ideologies but around different opinions on defensive democracy and on the fundamentals of democratic principles. And that that's where. They're losing the american people now i would say. Unfortunately they don't suffer from an electoral crisis. There's competitive as they've ever been. They lost in november. But they're performing very strong but they do suffer from an identity crisis that if they don't get their hands around this. I don't think they're going to recover from it. They can't expand the coalition from where they are now. Well as you know. Michael steele brings up my daddy issues because my dad was chairman of the republican party. But you as a. My dad was a congressman for fourteen years. And i mean it is hard to you actually said that you said this impeachment presents. What is really an existential question for the identity of today's gop party will survive even be competitive going forward. See that's the part where i hate you again. I i hate it too. I left it. Because i don't want it to be successful. Did you ll even why exactly i forget the specifics. I left before the eighteen mid so look i. I registered as a republican at eighteen years old. And to be honest i was not a lot of time in the light. David can i just say okay. Because i will tell you though. I knew i was never a good enough republican but it was always along these ideological lights and so i pushed back against the tea party and so forth as trump emerged stephanie. In december of twenty fifteen. I became at the time maybe still the only member of republican member to go to the house well and speak out against donald trump When he announced the muslim ban i went the floor and called on him to drop out of the race. And the case i made to my conservative friends was based on freedom of religion argument and protect shin. The people's freedom of religion that was december of fifteen..

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"glenn kirschner" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

05:34 min | 5 months ago

"glenn kirschner" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

"This is about preventing way. They said yesterday. Do you think this is over. Do you think this trump inspired violence is over. I mean this is part of it is stopping it from happening again. It's this is an ongoing You know whatever you wanna call it. Who whatever steph and ted lieu said. Yesterday i'm not afraid that he's going to run and win in the future. I'm afraid he's gonna run and lose by because look at what that has produced and jamie raskin was was brilliant. When he said listen if he ends up back in the oval office. Is there anybody who believes. He won't resort to violence again to get what he wants. And if you believe that are you willing to bet the lives of other police officers on that. Are you willing to bet the lives of your family. Are you willing to bet the future of democracy on that. Of course he will resort to violence again to get what he wants. Which is why. I don't care. What the impeachment vote is. I want a grand jury to vote to indict. Him and i wanted to go to prison for what he did to. The american people enter the immigrants in our country and problem. This is what i'm afraid of. Is they'll say no. We have to move on unity baba. I think you're it's not a obviously the state's already going to be involved. He's going to be prosecuted on a number of levels. But i think it's important the us i mean i just wonder if maryland will if they will because i don't understand how you just go. Oh well let's just move on from this from armed insurrection against the united states of america. How do you just go well. You know you re remember. this merrick. Garland cut his prosecutorial teeth on prosecuting mayor. Marion barry for that infamous crack incident years ago. That was in my former office. The dc took office. He then cut domestic terrorism teeth by supervising the investigation and prosecution into the oklahoma city bombing case he is. He's a man who can handle public corruption cases and he's a man who can handle and as of the most dramatic domestic terrorism cases and you know what trump has just done. He has married those two things public corruption and domestic terrorism or what he inspired and incited at the capitol. Merrick garland steph. Is the right man for this moment in time and he's going to get the job done okay and perusing my old law school books and That was the bitch. Set me up. Defense was in the marion berry. It was so it was not yet. She has used that. I live my life. I mean you made a good point on twitter glen before we go you said. Can we take a minute to celebrate. President binds decision to leave in place to us attorney so as not to give the appearance that he's trying to interfere investigations. President violent biden is giving us honor honest honorable ethical government. We deserve And you say it's flat out inspirational he you know. And you know it's s the one you know Investigating hundred biden's taxes. And then john. Durham investigating the origins of the russia. Investigation but you know but you're right. It is something we're not used to. Oh independence at the justice. Department again steph. If i can end on this good news story because this is such a good news story that flew under the radar..

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"glenn kirschner" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

04:17 min | 5 months ago

"glenn kirschner" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

"Transparent bayton switch argument. Yeah can i get through what his lawyers say. Today without you vomiting. We'll see because i did. I throw up a little bit. David schoenfield says his client was quite offended by the raft. Evidence shown by house managers That many of his insurrectionist believe they were acting on his orders. for'de assessment of trump's mood. Let me explain. How many flying. I give about that right now. But he said the president is very upbeat. He has condemned. The violence doesn't in any way want to be associated with what happened in this violent incidents. He is condemned the people involved in obviously quite offended at being tied to it. Oh my god. Oh my god really. I mean they're going to take the one time he said peaceably right in eleven thousand words speech and not the twenty five times. He said fight. I mean where do you even start with this stuff about eight. He condemned the violent telling entire day later when he was forced into it. Right steph. think about this. We learned during the course of the week that donald trump's spent fifty million dollars from his legal defense fund to put on this donald trump production right to organize it to encourage people to come to dc. He then riled them up. They were basically a loaded gun in his hand and he pointed the mob at the capitol and heath fired. And you know this is his responsibility from start to finish. Here's the one question i would ask. Is there anybody foolish enough to believe that absent. Donald trump organizing this orchestrating it and paying fifty million dollars to make it happen. Do we think. Donald trump's supporters would have spontaneously assembled in washing on that day. Pat tonge january sixth and marched on the capital to discourage the members of congress from From certifying the election results. Are you kidding. Me at this was a donald trump production. And i wanted to ask you about that. Which we because i stacy plus brought that out the you know. He's the one that when he got involved. The permanent was only to the ellipse not to the capital. I mean amanda carpenter..

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"glenn kirschner" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

03:50 min | 5 months ago

"glenn kirschner" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

"On. This is facing. Or possibly mrs mike. It's it's a hard. There's a lot going on or am i going to be killed by sex robot entirely possible blue. Yeah it's been a year without human touch people and david jolly with daddy issues for you. So many daddy issues. But david dolly a former republican congressman and man from florida. And we got talking about what the fuck. Let the of florida david. You're gonna kill us all the either gonna make bricks in either florida or sex russia. We're going to kill us all after. Just not how this got clark possible. That's why i need. I was holding out for a hero. And that would be glenn kirschner aspect justices coming and. That's not all consuming. What stephanie what he makes me feel that donald trump is going to be criminally prosecuted. If he is not convicted in the senate of impeachment because for impeachment because republicans are cowards. And this is beyond impeachment. And he's got the lady from georgia's attorney down from georgia's wipe. It kills me. If mrs cl mrs plus i have a lot of options people. Yeah but none of them know you exist okay. Well there's in my mind but at least their options. I'm sure now they know you exist. Because they've called security chris now a warning now she's like. Oh the creepy here on the radio. That has a crush on me. People always know me eventually. Not for good reason. Go restraining orders. Restraining order to jog one's memory. And i'm happy because our basement managers didn't amazing job this week the democrats. I'm so proud of them each and every one of them. We have diversity right. Dravis say nerd. They were all like different superheroes. Weren't they like the bingers. Just right gay. asian woman. Black man white man latino man fantastic and they just all presented amazing compelling case said. I don't know trump's lawyers sucked toma god's sake brightwell copy. Were about to find out how much they start really. I may add onion okay. It's but they have a bad case of bad clients. What can you do. What can you do. We talked to. Glenn kirschner about it. We talked to david jolly about it and everything licking my normal relationship was going great. David jolly pocket brings up taxes. I didn't have time to fight with them. And then have makeup sex. And it's the whole thing. We've already gotten the cards and letters about that so you don't send them again. thank you. He was gonna throw me that curve. Ball yeah i saw. We could agree on about hating suddenly. Don't you agree lower taxes stimulant. I'm like what no wifi. Hey hey wait a minute. I'm all for your third party. Ideas that only takes republicans. Otherwise democrats are the big ten party regard guest. Take your republican friends. And go on jacques. Republicans and they never get elected.

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Alabama officials warn of students holding coronavirus parties to intentionally get infected

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00:26 sec | 1 year ago

Alabama officials warn of students holding coronavirus parties to intentionally get infected

"And apparently Alabama students have organized covert nineteen parties is a contest to see who would get the virus first Tuscaloosa city councillor. Sonia McKenzie. Said students hosted the parties to intentionally infect each other with the new coronavirus party organizers purposefully invited guests who had tested positive for covid nineteen, and she said the students put money in a pool a pot and whoever got covert I. Would get the cash.

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Supreme Court to decide if Congress can get secret Russia grand jury materials

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00:22 sec | 1 year ago

Supreme Court to decide if Congress can get secret Russia grand jury materials

"The Supreme Court today announced it will hear the Muller Grand Jury Materials Case on the merits next term, which is going to push. Back its potential release. Should win on the merits to after the election, so don't imagine now first of all. These are the molar grand jury materials under rule sixty. We weren't going to get to see these anyway. It was just GonNa go to

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"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

The Daily Beans

01:54 min | 1 year ago

"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"Beyond all hopes that this is about the survivors, and it's about justice for them, so he. You know here's big ups to the Justice God's for keeping. gi lane, healthy and safe. And I hope she talks and I hope she's still held accountable. Because one of the most difficult balances, I ever had to strike as a prosecutor was how much credit to give a cooperating witness who did a whole bunch crime up front, but then cooperated with me and helped me bring down. Of Bad people on the back end, those are really difficult. Decisions for prosecutors Yeah. I mean you don't want to grant any favors to somebody who. Sexually abused fourteen year old miners. It's it's it's. It's gotta be a tough. A tough line to go all right well. Thank you very much for joining me today. MSNBC legal analyst former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner. Tell where they can find your very important work. He is so I. AM posting video a day on Youtube, sometimes too because I posted one about the Maxwell arrest this morning and I'll post yet another one about you know the ongoing horror show that is Donald Trump's mishandling of the information that Putin. Putin is per was procuring hits on US soldiers something that Donald Trump has yet to criticize or stand up to so if you go on Youtube, it's simply my name Glenn. Kirschner I would love everybody to subscribe it's it's always free and you know one video. A day at trump were bill bar crime day is up there and or on twitter. I'm Glen Kirschner too so those are the two best places to find me. I well, thanks so much for taking the time to speak with us today and helping us understand the INS and outs of of this case. Appreciate all right everybody. Stay with US right. After this break. We'll be back with AIMEE Carrero a news from under the radar. Stick.

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"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

The Daily Beans

08:20 min | 1 year ago

"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"All right everybody welcome back and welcome back. Former DC federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner Glen. How're you holding up I'm hanging in there. You know watching Donald Trump. Wipe is muddy feet on the constitution other than that. I'm fine. It's It's harrowing. And usually when the wrong in fuhrer breaks the law, you and I can sit and rattle off potential legal remedies you know, ask for documents. They'll refuse subpoenaed documents they refuse. Hold them in contempt. It goes to court. We litigated Skoda's for a couple of years but what he did last night shook us to our core, and I personally am too disoriented to attempt to think about legal remedies, which is why I have called you. Can you help me out with that? I can try unfortunately. I don't know that I have any good news because you know when you look at the Constitution and you look specifically at the bill of Rights Right the first ten amendments to the Constitution. It it doesn't really grant rights to the people. It's not a list of do's. It's not telling us. We need to go out in practice, religion, or speak freely or assemble or bear arms. It's a list of dolts right. It says that the government cannot do certain things they cannot establish a religion. The federal government cannot stop the people from freely exercising religion. The government cannot Abridge. That is mess with to use Beagle term our free speech. It cannot mess with our free. Free press it cannot mess with our right to peaceably assemble and petition basically or protests petition the government for a redress of grievances. You know it's a list of don't and so the question that we're now facing today is we saw Donald trump violate the first amendment. He did one of those don't something that is prohibited. He wanted to stroll from the White House across the street to Church. He has never attended to hold up a Bible. He has never read as. As a photo opportunity that he could then use as a campaign ad, and in order to accomplish that because the people were exercising their First Amendment right to peaceably assemble, he had apparently at the direction of his attorney general. Bill, bar. He had the people gassed. He had the people flashbang. He had the people assaulted. He had the people moved out of the way, so he could stroll across the street. That is a pure in arguable violation of the First Amendment what? What the heck do we do about it? The problem is when you assault somebody you walk up to somebody in the song in the street. You Punch him in the base. We can arrest you. We can charge you. We can haul you into court and the charge in DC would read something like you know on June second twenty twenty within the District of Columbia Mr Defendant Joe. Smith assaulted mister victim so and so by punching him in the face with a SPA. You can charge somebody with a crime. You can't charge somebody with violating the constitution I can't hall somebody into court as a former prosecutor, and charge them with violating the First Amendment by interfering with the People's right to peaceably assemble, so that's where we find ourselves. We see the president who has violated the Charter of our country, and he has violated the the sort of rules that govern how he is supposed to behave what he can do and what he can't do. And there's really nothing we can do about it. If the our elected officials that are supposed to be representing our interests will not stand up to him and deploy some kind of remedy like impeachment and removal so I you know I I think bill bar is probably smart enough to be telling the president. You know what don't worry so much about the constitution because there's nothing that can be done when you violate and that's that is where we find ourselves. And he put that out just hours later. The White House that he made. From that photo op. That was. Interesting and then of course Tom Cotton I, think it was Tom Cotton tweeted. Look at this brave man. What president has come out of the White House to go to church like? Like. Like we need to be praising him for those actions, but the Washington Post reported today that apparently White House officials asked DC the district of Columbia about taking over the local police department, and that's according to Mir, Miracle bouncers chief of staff. How does Posse comitatus in the insurrection act apply in the district of Columbia. We know how it applies to states. Yeah while because district of Columbia is not a state. It was chartered as a federal city. The basically keep the federal government up and running it I don't think the insurrection act necessarily applies which is why, or while Posse comitatus I, think would apply anywhere because the military is strictly prohibited from being deployed to enforce civilian laws and I. think that's going to apply in the district district of Columbia as well but I when I was really heartened to he. That Mariel bowser our mayor here. In Washington DC stood up on TV today and said let me be clear. We the Metropolitan Police Department the. You know the city law enforcement agency. Did Not participate in what you saw being done to. The citizens you know in order to allow the president to walk across the street to the Church and I. Think you know that was if not firing a shot across the bow? It was her wanting to be clear that what you saw was a violation of the constitution and the deprivation of the People's rights, and we belong enforcement. Arm of the DC city government had nothing to do with that, so we're starting to see some politicians and some police chiefs around the country. Push back. On the President I, mean I love that the chief of police of Houston I think. St tweeted or set it in a speech, and he said Look Mr President what you're saying is not productive. You're fanning the flames of do me a favor. Shut your mouth, and if we have more, you know. Police, chiefs and governors and mayors and city council members across the country begin to push back on the tyrant in a way that the Republican leadership in Congress won't. Maybe maybe we start to have an. An impact do do we know what force did? move the peaceful. Jude fired tear gas into the peaceful protesters. Did fire rubber bullets in there, do we? What force did that I reporting I saw was a US park police. They have you know having practiced for nearly a quarter of a century in DC, it is the strangest place when it comes to law enforcement because it really is parceled out. Among so many law enforcement agencies, and in thirty seconds I can probably ravel most of them off. It's like FBI ATF DA US Park police US Capitol police US secret. Service uniformed division US marshals service, US. Postal Police Amtrak police. US Metro Police Federal Protective Service it goes on and on and on and on Department of Veterans Affairs Police. There you go, we have some sodium Sonian police right? Hey! Dropped that painting. The highest the heist police. so it really is very strange. Byzantine jurisdiction when it comes to which law enforcement agency.

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"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

The Daily Beans

02:12 min | 1 year ago

"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"For Thursday. May Twenty eight twenty twenty today. The Department of Justice drops insider trading investigations against three senators voter registration plummets due to covid. Nineteen Republicans sued to stop proxy voting in the House. Kevin McCarthy ask Democrats to pull their FISO. Bill POMPEO's advisory board. Kaley mcenaney is a hypocrite. Rod Rosenstein will testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Flynn could lose even if he wins. And we find out why it could be hard for pence to pardon trump. I'm your host. Ag Hey everybody it's ag We're doing some remote recordings today Everything is going well here. I want to remind everybody of. Let's see tomorrow's a cocktail Happy Hour. We're going to do a live. Crowd Cast Q. And A. Session. We do this every week. This'll be I think the tenth week that we do this This week steam is the masquerade. Where your masks? We WanNA see your masks You have to wear them the whole time. Obviously if you're indoors and also today on the show I'll be interviewing Glenn Kirschner former Federal Prosecutor. Msnbc legal analyst former Army Jag Jordan's GONNA give us a cove update in the block. And I'm going to be joined by Amanda Reader for the good news in quarantine confessions. I also wanted to say to see. Just this is so great. Congratulations to the voices of our city. Choir they earned the Golden Buzzer from Terry crews on America's got talent last night They're going straight to the final show and voices are choir is a choir of homeless folks here in San Diego. We had them record ringtone for us and You know we've been donating the proceeds from that ringtone to them Since that time. And they were on America's got talent last night and they got the Golden Buzzer. Congratulations voices of our city choir. You've earned it and I also want to dedicate this show to Larry Kramer Co founder of act up which is working to end the AIDS crisis. He died today in New York at the age of eighty four and we honor his memory but before we get to the headlines and the pardon discussion we do have some updates from Jordan Coburn. So let's hit the hot notes pot notes hello.

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"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

The Daily Beans

07:08 min | 1 year ago

"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"Right so today to start it off to kick it off before we get to our listener. Good news on Corn Confessions I do have a little bit of good news. Jerry Nadler Up made an appearance this over the weekend. I think Friday and He did on. I think CNN or MSNBC and one of the two and he said that they are going to demand that our bill bar testify on June knife. He was supposed to testify March thirty first but as we know because of Cova concerns the courts closed so he didn't testify. I'm sorry not the courts The House because he testified in front. How does your committee So they're GONNA do it. June ninth and ninth is the first day that They're back opened up unless it's postponed again. And Adler said that they are willing to use their full powers of contempt and subpoena powers if he refuses to show up and also they he said that you know they have power of the purse in Congress and he'll defend the AG's office if he doesn't show up Holy Shit I know and yet and yet all of that all of that all of that and I still don't think that he'll show up you know and that's that's the sad part is like they can say whatever they want and they can. They can be as firm as they want. But these people don't care no exactly and unless they use inherent contempt. And and send the sergeant at arms out to fucking grab the motherfucker. They have to go through the Department of Justice. Anyway to enforce a contempt order so that would be bar. Who wouldn't do that to himself. So it'll be interesting to see what happens if they if they use the power of the purse though I'm interested and we'll know sooner rather than later that's only you know what see what we got fifteen plus nine twenty four days from now so we'll see what happens. Yeah that's in less than a month so at least we'll know soon exactly especially I love it especially if it's later in the summer All right so what? Sort of good news stories do we have from our listeners. We have some thank you guys so much for sending them in Really appreciate it The first one I love Timms born. I miss this story. But it's a link to articles back from a bow mid April when Spain was in the harshest part of their lockdown European countries had lockdowns. Where you know. It's like they monitor. You can leave your house one today for exercise or sometimes not even that but apparently Some citizens in Spain during the during the strictest part of the lockdown were allowed to walk their pets so a Guy Walked. His goldfish took is goldfish bowl out on a walk as an exemption to the rule. And there's a picture of it. We'll have to send that out in the newsletter this week. God it's so funny I mean. That's that's fucking hilarious. Um Congratulations Sir. Very Creative yes nice. Well done well done. This is my pet invisible friend. I'm walking today. All right the next one a little bit more serious than taking your goldfish for a walk. This is from anonymous in this one for obvious. Reasons touched my heart and anonymous says my sixteen year old daughter who came out a few years ago is a lesbian has been doing research to educate ourselves on gay rights and has come to me. Many times completely shocked at the lack of basic rights. And the legal discrimination policies that are in place for gay people. We have been having many political discussions as of late and she wanted to know what she can do to make things better. I told her since she is old enough to vote yet. She can volunteer to make phone calls. Knock on doors for candidates who will fight for the rights of minorities. She's now looking into all local city state and Biden campaign offices that she could possibly help with her enthusiasm to help to help and to do her part. Make these important changes incredible. Sorry Allie Redo that what her enthusiasm to help. Do her part to make these important. Changes is incredible and makes me so proud to be her mom? I have hope for the future because I know she isn't the only person in her generation that is motivated to make this country better for everyone. Well that sort of reminds me of the commencement speech. Obama gave on Saturday for Hashtag graduate together. Where he said you know. Y'All are turning eighteen. Now you vote. You're going to shape this This world and you're going to be our future leaders and That was a very hopeful message. He also said this right after Trump was elected. He appeared on Pod. Save America Obama did and said look. We're going to have this wave of young people just washing over the country. And that's what that's what the ambassador of hope means to him and so two to just hear. That story is just so wonderful and you know big ups to going out there and getting it done. You know you can't vote yet but you will soon and so we really. We really appreciate your hard work. Yeah and I've taken down your email by the way anonymous and I'm going to send you an email because I wanna share a story with you about the exact same experience. I had when I was younger when I was coming out and I was like. Oh Holy Shit. I am illegal in so many places. I am so discriminated against and you know to to to be to be fair. It's it's a very white privileged experience I know a lot of people who who grew up with other disadvantages in society face discrimination the younger age but for me you know coming out for me was the first time I realized the level of legal discrimination that exists. And Yeah it's a wakes you up to a lot of stuff in it puts a lot of fight into you. Think sharing that the next one is from. Sarah and Sarah says Mike good news is that I began my PhD in Marine Geochemistry. Okay Smarty Pants last fall and I had an expedition to sample water and study off the coast of West Africa in April that I was really looking forward to. It was obviously canceled and I was really bummed this week though I learned that our trip had been successfully resubmitted and we will be doing our science later this year by the way climate and environmental science so important right now thank you It will be a shorter time shorter trip. And there's new restrictions like enforced to have a single cabin out not my own room but I do get to do the work and collect samples. My project has been on a bit of a hiatus so this really helped me focus again and feel like it's moving forward and feel positive. Thank you so much for all you guys do. Awesome congrats Sarah. All right. This is from Also anonymous non. Ima says I just wanted to give you some hope with my city of Lansing Michigan being shown in the news for protests. I don't know where these people are. Driving from the only people I see in lansing are out in the stores wearing masks and staying six feet from other. I was laughing to myself when it was thundering and pouring rain and those protesters outside on Thursday. Thank you for everything you do to make us laugh and keeping forums like..

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"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

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02:04 min | 1 year ago

"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"Twenty today. A new batch of memos released by Buzzfeed as part of their foia suit another Friday night inspector general firing the FDA stops Bill Gates Back Corona virus research proof. The cupboards weren't bear when trump took office a prominent medical journal issues. A rare call to vote trump out of office trump pressures the postal service to raise rates law floor hands documents over to the Department of Justice regarding her stock activity prior to the crash. Why trump hates tests the house demands bar testified? June ninth and the and Fruman show is pushed to after the election. I'm your host Jian with me. Today is Jordan Coburn Alot. I forgot about partisan firm and I know we haven't been doing the fantasy indictment league since bar took over and so we haven't really been keeping up on them but Basically I'll go over this a little bit later in the show but both sides asked to push this back to the end of next year to amid corona virus concerns so the partisan firm and trial when I say the par partisan Freeman show. That's that's what I mean. That's going to be at the end of next year. It looks like crazy well looking forward to it. Yeah Something to do When we have a better president we We do have a very beefy. Show today I Jordan going to grow over the muller memos that were released over the weekend I'm then I'm going to do an entire block of headlines that Sort of flew under the radar under the corona virus radar. We've got an interview with Glenn Kirschner later on. We're going to talk a little bit more about the Flynn case. And the new amicus curious A cure a cure. I I guess would be the plural. I it's been twenty years since I took Latin. Twenty five twenty seven years. It's been a long time. And it's been a dead language for thousands of years so there we go so yeah we have all of that to squeeze and plus huge good news block and a lot of quarantine confessions so we might as well jump in.

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"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

The Daily Beans

02:16 min | 1 year ago

"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"Whether formally or informally. But that is a significant boost. End in the Mueller investigation in the Roger Stone wikileaks Russia. incident that. I hope we get the answer to in in the near future. Yeah I hope so too. I was wondering like is it. Is it predicates to launch an investigation. Just because it's jerome core. See but you know it sounds like A. I'm probably still going to be pointless. I'm not going to get any. I'm not going to earn any fantasy. Indictment points from from Corsi on this one either is what it sounding like but Just just stu you gotTa look elsewhere indictment draft on your right now on that money's on superseding Parnasse and fruman indictments so we'll see how that goes. But anyway I appreciate you talking to me about this because I mean I do want to know the facts about it but also immediately. It was hilarious. Yeah yeah no it definitely It brightened my day. It was something that was not immediately like gloom and doom and more Americans are gonNA die at the corona virus. So it's always nice to have that kind of a divergent agreed. Thank you former federal prosecutor. Msnbc legal analyst Glenn Kirschner. I appreciate you speaking with me today. Thank you and coming up next surprise last minute interview with Greg. Oli are so stay with us. Everybody it's g one thing I've learned while doing research for the deans deeper. You dig the more layers you uncover. That's part of what I love about the puzzle game. Best Defense is actually a great distraction. When I need a break from today's insane politics the more I plan and more fun and exciting gets reaching each new level is like uncovering a new layer on a story. And that's but it's like a story you get to be a part of and it's it's so I love this game so it's so relaxing. It's amazingly fun. It's an APP that's free to download. It's a five star rated game with a bright vibrant design very calming fun characters combines an exciting story with challenging puzzles to engage. Your brain keeps my brain awake. But it's casual. Anybody can play it. It's not like call of duty or something. You don't have to be a Gamer. You collect tons of characters. You use them strategically in each level. I'm way over. Eleven one hundred thirty four now..

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"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

The Daily Beans

09:36 min | 1 year ago

"glenn kirschner" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"Ag and today we we have MSNBC legal analyst Glenn Kirschner in an interview that aired on July seventh twenty nineteen and we speak with him about his insights into Muller in. This was just ahead out of Muller's public testimony to Congress which took place July twenty fourth. That's just one day before the infamous call between trump Alinsky for which the president has now been impeached when when he withheld aid and dangled a White House meeting in exchange for investigations into his political rival and of course the origins of the two thousand sixteen Russia investigation. So please enjoy this interview interview gun. Kirshner is wonderful with me. TODAY IS MSNBC legal analyst. He spent thirty years as a federal prosecutor with DC US Attorney's office and he spent a lot of time. I am working with Muller so please. Welcome Glen Kirschner Glen. Thanks for coming on muller she wrote. Thanks for having me appreciate it yeah. We're so happy to have you on because we want to get some expert insight Into Muller before his upcoming testimony to the House Judiciary Intelligence Committees. I think it's about ten days from the airing of this episode and Those of us who are keenly familiar with what's in his report and have been following this all along probably aren't going to learn anything new and might be slightly feeling disappointed. Had with his testimony. But that's not really. What makes this appearance so important? Is it no I mean. There's been so much disinformation put into the public square by trump by bar by all of their enablers that I think part of what we're part of the reason Bob Bob Muller's testimony is going to be so important it's it's not only to bring to the public's attention his findings Particularly with respect to the many felony obstruction of justice offenses trump committed. But it's GONNA be hopefully to rebut the epoch. Disinformation nations campaign. That trump and company have been waging against the American people with their with their very effective mantra no obstruction no collusion Aleutian. Hopefully Bob Muller will find some ways and hopefully congress will come up with some pointed precise questions to help Bob Muller find some ways to combat that information campaign. Yeah and that's all. Yeah thanks to Attorney any General William Bar who's Four page quote Unquote Summary of Muller's findings SORTA it totally misled led the public. We saw that woman in the Justin Amash Rally say. Gosh I had no idea there wasn't anything About trump that was negative or there was anything negative in the Miller report about about trump. So it's it's I think that that's kind of why this Testimony is so important and Muller has said that his report is his testimony and and he warned that he won't talk about anything that's not in his report but as you were just indicating do you think if if the questions are asked properly that he might answer some of the critical Outstanding banding questions we have like. was there actually no collusion or no obstruction. Or if president weren't the president. Would he be indicted. I I guess my inclination nation is when Bob Muller says my report is my testimony he means it but you know he is a by the Book Guy Law and order. He's a rule follower. So I actually think what you referenced. A minute ago. When Bill Bar issued his misleading summary of mothers report it really cut against against POB molars grain to issue a written rebuttal of that and say hey look bar you mischaracterized my findings and conclusions and your misleading? The public. CUT It out. That is unlike Bob Muller because he's sort of the king of circumspection but you know he's also a soldier and in the middle. I used to be an army Jag in the eighties. We are taught that you have to number one obey a lawful order but number two you have to disobey unlawful order and sometimes those two things bump up against one another but going back to your question I think if the questions are precise enough then muller will have to answer some things even if they are somewhat outside out of his report so for example one of the questions I would ask him is look Special Counsel Muller you've heard President trump say over and over again your investigation negation found no obstruction. Is that true or false. I think if he's answering even within the four corners of his forty eight four hundred forty eight page report port. The answer is that is false. Our investigation did not find no obstruction. Same question with respect to collusion so I think if crafted properly I hate to say some of this is an exercise in getting some usable soundbites from Bob Muller. But here's here's what I would do if you can get those sound bites where Muller says definitively no we did not find no obstruction. We did not find no collusion. I think it's on the media every time they broadcast trump or bar as they do a thousand times a day saying no obstruction no collusion collusion. They should be obliged to put up immediately after that. That is false. Says Bob Muller so I hate to say it's. It's an exercise in debunking disinformation but because the lies got a several week head start coming out of bars mouth. The truth has forever been playing catch up and has and has not been catching up all that effectively. Yeah totally and and you mention Muller writing that Scathing maybe not scathing to us but scathing to muller that letter to bar about in apparently it was one of a couple of letters he wrote before the before the report was released to Congress in the public How important is it because we read in the threat by Andy? McCabe that when somebody like Muller particularly you know Mr Circumspect goes to paper like that it means a lot more than someone else just I. You know sending a reply on twitter writing a letter. So how important is it. He went to paper on that and also made his ten minute public statement. I wasn't expecting either of those things from him. Yes writing a A rebuttal to the attorney general. Who technically at that moment was still Bob? Muller's boss was You know I'm GONNA say out of character for Muller I mean ordinarily what we would do under those circumstances. If we had a dispute in our chain of command we would go behind closed doors doors with our boss and we would say boss. I've got some real concerns here but I think Muller recognized how high the stakes were and he also recognized how how dangerous bars mischaracterization was and that it was done. I think with I'm you to say evil intent And Muller felt compelled to put in writing his rebuttal his correction of what Bar said so so I think for him. That was Difficult but necessary. And you know I appreciate that Muller said listen. I'm going to stay within the four corners of my report. The problem is once he raises his right hand and swears. To tell the truth he will have to answer questions. That are sort of proper questions in that. They don't violate grand jury secrecy rules so they wouldn't require him to disclose matters. There's that are before the grand jury Or compromise ongoing investigation. So I think those are two areas where he can decline to answer answer because those are legitimate reasons to decline to answer those questions beyond that if there are questions that are posed that require him to go beyond the four corners. The report you know. He's raised his hand. Sworn to tell the whole truth he's going to have to answer those questions As long as they are sort of properly phrased My concern is that you know the Republicans are going to want to ask him about dossiers and spying on the trump campaign as a distraction and the Democrats may want to push muller well beyond the report to a place. He's not comfortable going. You know like if the president accident where a private citizen wouldn't you have indicted him for obstruction of justice. I can tell you was a career prosecutor. The answer is hell. Yes and but I don't know the Muller caller will answer that question because of the way he has you know already signaled that listen. The criminal justice system is not the place to formally accuse a sitting president of crimes that places the Congress and you know basically Muller's report report was an impeachment referral plain and simple how congress hasn't gotten that or why they are declining to open impeachment. Hearings has as me scratching my big bald head every day us to believe me and you know something like the question of if he were a private citizen would you indict him. I'm I'm almost sure of and I haven't worked with Muller's at all but I I just imagine him saying I'm not GonNa answer any hypothetical questions. Hey Hey it's a g hear. This is the daily beans. I hope you're enjoying my interview with Glenn Kirschner..

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