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"giuliani mick" Discussed on The Daily Beans

The Daily Beans

09:06 min | 9 months ago

"giuliani mick" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"We've got some new disturbing information from the Bolton Manuscript while we were away For Ten seconds it was No this over the weekend. It was reported as the Senate was gearing up to debate about whether to vote for witnesses in documents this time we learned that trump actually directed John Bolton to help them with the pressure campaign against Ukraine to extract damaging information on the Biden's and two thousand sixteen. And not only that that the big news to me in this league is who was in that meeting when trump asked Bolton to support a shakedown of Ukraine and when the meeting took place the meeting was in May which we did did learn about in the first bulletin dump but not meeting were Rudy Giuliani Mick. Mulvaney and White House counsel Pat Sip Baloney who is leading trump's defense team for the impeachment trial. All that makes him a fact witness and we would do well to remember that he is not the lawyer for trump White House. Counsel is not trump's personal lawyer. They are the lawyer of the people which makes his complicity that much more dubious and during that meeting trump asked Bolton two calls Alinsky to tell him to meet with Giuliani who was planning a trip to Ukraine to discuss the investigations into Biden in in two thousand sixteen that would help trump in the twenty twenty election and according to Bolton he never made the call so this raises serious questions about the White House. Counsel's role as trump leads council council in the impeachment. Trial Stephan Gillers. A professor at New York University School of law wrote recently. That simple only had an obligation His knowledge of the facts in in this case under a legal ethics rule known as the advocate witness rule that states when the lawyer should be your witness at a trial. They can't also be an advocate in the courtroom is breach of ethics should prompt the house managers to require Cipriani to disclose his participation in events related to the impeachment. The Dems could actually write a letter or a note to chief. Justice John Roberts to order Sipalawini be removed as chief counsel and order him to sit for questioning Because there's a very plausible argument that he's a fact witness but Roberts has been a little more than a hood ornament here. Even though the motion to close evidence in the case came after the information became public. If Roberts chooses not to insert himself by making a ruling here that would just kick it back to the Senate for vote. And Dem's could ask Roberts to delay the trial to allow for that vote so we might be able to delay it a little bit and get the Republicans on the record. Voting against removing fact to witness from the trump's legal team Republican senators would surely vote that down I think they would continue with acquittal on Wednesday but that would mean they're not only again voting against witnesses but voting against hearing about the legitimacy of trump's own counsel and what role they may have played in the trial then there would be a retrial. No I don't think so Just that they would refuse to hear it. Yeah I don't know how it works in actual courtrooms. Yeah you could probably in a in a criminal law do a mistrial And Ask for new lawyer. But I don't think that's how it works and impeachments political preceding But this new revelation from Bolton also implicates Mulvaney who had previously said that he leaves the room when Crimea Shit goes down down to protect attorney client privilege. I'm paraphrasing of course. But that's what he's saying knows importantly this new revelation is proof that more and more evidence will come out making the vote to block witnesses and documents a bigger mistake as the days pass between now and the election. So that's a good thing for us. Yes among the bad but wait. There's more Joseph Bondi. That's the lawyer. For parnasse penned a letter to Mitch McConnell telling him his relevant the relevant information that he has in the impeachment of Donald Trump and he outlined everything he has to say. The three page letter was given to McConnell just hours before. The Senate voted fifty-one forty-nine against witnesses and documents and here's some of the highlights right on page one. He starts in was saying could testify to who was involved in the efforts to remove Ivanovich and get dirt on the Biden's and he can say the following people were involved the SUPERPAC America. I trump pence Perry pompeo bar Graham Nunez Nunez Aid Derek Harvey John Solomon Elleman digenova toning and Giuliani and it looks right there and others. Who else is there? And parnasse has phone records text Paxton email receipts is what is what Bondi says in this letter. He says Parnell's we'll testify To the conversation Perry had was Dolinsky about the quid. Pro Quo. At those Alinsky the inauguration he said he would also testify to the trip. He took with Giuliani to Madrid to meet with your mark. That's Dolinsky right. Hand guy to tell him there had to be a public announcement of investigation into the Biden's in two thousand sixteen. He can also testify to the pressure. Trump put on on on ambassador Bolton to resolve the unwillingness Alinsky to abide by the president's wishes When in Ukraine didn't listen Bolton either left or was fired and trump sent pence to give it a try? Finally Parnasse can testify that all the time he was acting under direct orders from Giuliani on behalf of trump and that trump and his associates all knew what was going on. That's the old son line. Everyone was in the loop occurred. AC- copy of this letter was also sent to Chuck Schumer Most of what's in this letter makes me wonder what sort of text documents we will see before the vote Wednesday that would back up the allegations made in this letter. Of course we know they won't allow any additional evidence evidence to be considered In that vote. But that doesn't mean it won't come out for us to see and make that vote. Let's make that vote really really hard uh-huh so that's what kind of we have going on there right. Oh gross it is rather gross. I mean when you think about like here's the thing I want to come out from Bolton's book this old school stuff. This is when trump i. I tried to pull troops out of Syria and Bolton threw a fit. Apparently behind the scenes can't tell you how a nobody no and that I had something to do with trump trading Turkey to protect because he is a property in Turkey and so there was some sort of a deal that had to do with Hawk Bank right. 'cause trump was trying to keep bar in the southern district of New York from Indicting Hawk Bank because he was trying to make this deal with air do on that had to do with the pullout of troops in Syria and had something to do with the licensing on on a property there so we don't have proof of this unless it's in proof of collusion which it might be. That might actually have citations for for this. I'd have to go double check. But that is the Shit I wanNA see. In the Bolton Book I WanNa see the deal made with Air Duan That potentially cost lives lives of our Kurdish allies in Syria. That was of course the second time which he did succeed in pulling our troops out of Syria And how Putin was involved in that and you know whether there was a weather. He favored these autocrats for his own. Personal Business Gains you know and we did get that That Bolton sort of alluded to that like he sort of made deals with air do on a member that was like with the second thing that came out with the Bolton thing is that he was doing favors for autocrats what's specifically Xi Jinping and aired one and so. That's the status shit. I WanNa see and then I also WanNa know if Bolton new or was on that phone call with Mohammed Mohammed bin Salman about Kushtia G.. And then what. He knows anything if he knows anything about any of the conversations that he had with Putin. Because I don't think I don't think Bolton's going to reveal anything that could hurt are wanting to attack Iran or the Saudis. But but I I know he hates Russia yeah and Turkey and so he might be willing to to spill some of those beans and China. That's I think that's why sort of alluded needed to that Autocratic favors for Oregon and she champagne. But who knows that that I pull out a Syrian troops as. I'm very interested in that and what that was in exchange exchange for. Yeah that's definitely going to be one of the most salacious books. I'd imagine rate because he uses right hand men doing all these things for a long time and they're trying trying to say that You know the Republican Congress say we don't even know if it's true In the White House is trying to block the the book saying classified stuff. We need more time to tell you what parts of it are classified classified fucking house. If John Bolton actually wasn't the one who made all the decisions about what the fuck is classified and he this is his sixth or seventh book. He knows what you can't can't get by the White House you know. This is six or seven me neither. So He's a book guy. Yeah I five or about mustaches. Yeah who they're available urban outfitters with unitards attached to come in like a centerfold unitary that you could pull out in its fluorescent addressing green. It's like a single with a mustache on the CROTCH. That's how I envision it to go to war with Iran uh-huh oh gosh all right we we still have a couple more news stories and then we have a lot of good news. I promise we'll be right back. Hey everybody in this..

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"giuliani mick" Discussed on News Radio WGOW

News Radio WGOW

01:55 min | 9 months ago

"giuliani mick" Discussed on News Radio WGOW

"G. O. W. at Chattanooga special report troll impeachment trial another release from the upcoming John Bolton book is out the same day the Republicans hope that they could wind down the president's impeachment trial with a vote to acquit the latest release is reported by The New York Times correspondent Kaitlyn Collins is at the White House in early may there was a meeting in the or in the oval office with president trump Rudy Giuliani Mick Mulvaney the chief of staff and perhaps a baloney the White House counsel who is now leading the president's defense on the Senate floor where president trump instructed John Bolton then of course at the time the national security adviser to connect Rudy Giuliani with the new president times reporter Maggie Haberman able to count is true it would be the earliest that we now that the president was involved on in in instructing people in relation to this pressure campaign with Ukraine for investigation but he wanted Lisa Makowski says she has a no on calling trial witnesses I'm Mike moss two suspects have been taken into custody after they tried to get away from police after driving through two checkpoints near the president's Florida residents corresponded Kristen Holmes reports police fired shots before taking the minute the custody question here of course is whether or not that vehicle was headed towards a Mar a Lago intentionally were they on a chase a for any reason why exactly were they following this car in the first place and why was it heading towards my R. Mar a Lago know where the word from officials yet about who was involved and what the motive might have been China's ambassador in Geneva says the world health organization's decision to declare a virus outbreak a global emergency walls warranted but cautions against unnecessary panic or excessive measures in response the virus is now claim more than two hundred lives in infected ten thousand Americans just back from China will be quarantine for two.

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"giuliani mick" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

02:13 min | 9 months ago

"giuliani mick" Discussed on KGO 810

"Video love it yeah it's really gonna be fun it's a fun character to show its course it's a an amazing show what you've heard from so many people so we'll have him join us next and it will continue to update events in Washington as we continue on KGO special report troll impeachment trial another release from the upcoming John Bolton book is out the same day the Republicans hope that they could wind down the president's impeachment trial with a vote to acquit the latest release is reported by The New York Times correspondent Kaitlyn Collins is at the White House in early may there was a meeting in the or in the oval office with president trump Rudy Giuliani Mick Mulvaney the chief of staff and perhaps a baloney the White House counsel who is now leading the president's defense on the Senate floor where president trump instructed John Bolton then of course at the time the national security adviser to connect Rudy Giuliani with the new president times reporter Maggie Haberman able to count is true it would be the earliest that we now that the president was involved on in in instructing people in relation to this pressure campaign with Ukraine for investigations that he wanted Lisa Makowski says she has a no on calling trial witnesses I'm Mike Morse geo San Francisco station to the minute impeachment coverage three G. O. eight ten this news update is sponsored by dell good morning I'm Brad Burkhart with their top of the hour news update federal officials are advising against all travel to China is the number of cases of a warring the virus has spiked the virus has infected almost ten thousand people globally in just two months and the World Health Organization has declared the outbreak a global emergency and federal officials have ordered the quarantine now of one hundred ninety five of the Americans evacuated from China to a southern California military base for two weeks three areas social media companies are doing their part to stop the spread of misinformation about the corona virus Facebook Google and Twitter say they'll remove information on fake cures and we'll try to steer users toward helpful information in Oakland city councilwoman is suggesting a law that would help keep renters in.

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"giuliani mick" Discussed on KSFO-AM

KSFO-AM

01:53 min | 9 months ago

"giuliani mick" Discussed on KSFO-AM

"Every full report troll impeachment trial another release from the upcoming John Bolton book is out the same day the Republicans hope that they could wind down the president's impeachment trial with a vote to acquit the latest release is reported by The New York Times correspondent Kaitlyn Collins is at the White House in early may there was a meeting in the or in the oval office with president trump Rudy Giuliani Mick Mulvaney the chief of staff and perhaps a baloney the White House counsel who is now leading the president's defense on the Senate floor where president trump instructed John Bolton then of course at the time the national security adviser to connect Rudy Giuliani with the new president times reporter Maggie Haberman able to count is true it would be the earliest that we now that the president was involved on in in instructing people in relation to this pressure campaign with Ukraine for investigations that he wanted Lisa Makowski says she has a no on calling trial witnesses I'm Mike moss two suspects have been taken into custody after they tried to get away from police after driving through two checkpoints near the president's Florida residents corresponded Kristen Holmes reports police fired shots before taking the minute the custody question here of course is whether or not that vehicle was headed towards a Mar a Lago intentionally were they on a chase of for any reason why exactly were they following this car in the first place and why was it heading towards my R. Mar a Lago the weather word from officials yet about who was involved and what the motive might have been China's ambassador in Geneva says the world health organization's decision to declare a virus outbreak of global emergency walls warranted but cautions against unnecessary panic or excessive measures in response the virus is now claim more than two hundred lives in infected ten thousand Americans just back from China will be quarantined for.

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"giuliani mick" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

02:00 min | 9 months ago

"giuliani mick" Discussed on KGO 810

"You will report trope impeachment trial a breaking report says the president instructed his former national security aide to assist him in getting Ukraine to dig up dirt on Democrats months before the infamous July called in which the president mentions the bidens to Ukraine president someone ski or spotted Kaitlyn Collins reports the information comes from the New York times they say in early may there was a meeting in the or in the oval office with president trump Rudy Giuliani Mick Mulvaney the chief of staff and perhaps a baloney the White House counsel who is now leading the president's defense on the Senate floor where president trump instructed John Bolton then of course at the time the national security adviser to connect Rudy Giuliani with the new president the Senate trial will resume momentarily a potential Senate vote to acquit the president is expected to come tonight or early tomorrow the president is denying the report in the times and says the meeting Balkan writes about never happened I'm Mike Moore your next update is at the bottom of the hour when it breaks on KGO and we will bring you some of the debate in moments of cagey as mark Thompson reservation group is saving a redwood forest near the San Matteo Santa Cruz County line save the redwoods signed an agreement to buy a five hundred sixty four acres of land for nine million dollars the cascade creek property features more than one hundred acres of old growth redwoods including one tree believed to be more than five hundred years old the land has been sought after by biologists park Rangers and environmental groups for decades we are counting down the hours before the San Francisco forty Niners take on the Kansas City Chiefs in the Superbowl corresponded Clayton Nevil says diehard fans from San Francisco Kansas city and cities without a dog in the fighter in South Florida for all the fun rock stadium in Miami will be a sea of red Sunday just different tents with forty Niners in chiefs fans but the NFL experience it's all about the league and.

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"giuliani mick" Discussed on KLIF 570 AM

KLIF 570 AM

01:52 min | 9 months ago

"giuliani mick" Discussed on KLIF 570 AM

"Special report impeachment trial a breaking report says the president instructed his former national security aide to assist him in getting Ukraine to dig up dirt on Democrats months before the infamous July called in which the president mentions the bidens to Ukraine president someone ski correspond to keep on Collins reports the information comes from the New York times they say in early may there was a meeting in the or in the oval office with president trump Rudy Giuliani Mick Mulvaney the chief of staff and perhaps a baloney the White House counsel who is now leading the president's defense on the Senate floor where president trump instructed John Bolton then of course at the time the national security adviser to connect Rudy Giuliani with the new president the Senate trial will resume momentarily a potential Senate vote to acquit the president is expected to come tonight or early tomorrow the president is denying the report in the times and says the meeting Bolton writes about never happened hi Mike moss the F. B. I.'s responding to an incident and moral long ago the president's Florida home correspondent Kristin homes with the breaking details here call and suspects are currently in because these are the way they describe the situation is essentially the Florida highway patrol with following a black SUV as it barreled towards to security points outside of Mar a Lago it broke through both of those a security points before eventually officials launching fire into that vehicle now again the vehicle then sped off they were eventually tracked down and again discuss the excuse me this vehicle and the suspects are currently in custody the president is scheduled to visit Mar a Lago later today China's expressing frustration at the U. S. is now recommending against travel to China over concerns about the spreading corona virus two hundred reported dead more than ten thousand now infected.

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"giuliani mick" Discussed on KSFO-AM

KSFO-AM

02:01 min | 9 months ago

"giuliani mick" Discussed on KSFO-AM

"San Francisco Oakland San Jose special report trope impeachment trial a breaking report says the president instructed his former national security aide to assist him in getting Ukraine to dig up dirt on Democrats months before the infamous July called in which the president mentions the bidens to Ukraine president someone ski or spotted Kaitlyn Collins reports the information comes from the New York times they say in early may there was a meeting in the or in the oval office with president trump Rudy Giuliani Mick Mulvaney the chief of staff and perhaps a baloney the White House counsel who is now leading the president's defense on the Senate floor where president trump instructed John Bolton then of course at the time the national security adviser to connect Rudy Giuliani with the new president the Senate trial will resume momentarily a potential Senate vote to acquit the president is expected to come tonight or early tomorrow the president is denying the report in the times and says the meeting Bolton writes about never happened I'm like boss the F. B. I.'s responding to an incident at Mar a Lago the president's Florida home corresponded Kristin homes with the breaking details here call and suspects are currently in custody for the way they describe the situation is essentially the Florida highway patrol with following a black SUV as it barreled towards to security point outside of Mar a Lago it broke through both of those a security points before eventually officials launching fire into that vehicle now again the vehicle then sped off they were eventually tracked down and again these custody TV this vehicle and the suspects are currently in custody the president is scheduled to visit Mar a Lago later today Chinese expressing frustration that the U. S. is now recommending against travel to China over concerns about the spreading corona virus two hundred reported dead more than ten thousand now infected the Wall Street the Dow down for ninety three S. and P. down fifty points.

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"giuliani mick" Discussed on News Talk KOKC 1520

News Talk KOKC 1520

02:08 min | 9 months ago

"giuliani mick" Discussed on News Talk KOKC 1520

"Troll impeachment trial a breaking report says the president instructed his former national security aide to assist him in getting Ukraine to dig up dirt on Democrats months before the infamous July called in which the president mentions the bidens to Ukraine president someone ski corresponded Kaitlyn Collins reports the information comes from the New York times they say in early may there was a meeting in the or in the oval office with president trump Rudy Giuliani Mick Mulvaney the chief of staff and perhaps a baloney the White House counsel who is now leading the president's defense on the Senate floor where president trump instructed John Bolton then of course at the time the national security adviser to connect Rudy Giuliani with the new president the Senate trial will resume momentarily a potential Senate vote to acquit the president is expected to come tonight or early tomorrow the president is denying the report in the times and says the meeting Bolton writes about never happened I'm like boss the FBI is responding to an incident and moral long ago the president's Florida home correspondent Kristin homes with the breaking details she a call and suspects are currently in custody for the way they describe the situation is essentially the Florida highway patrol with following a black SUV as it barreled towards to security point outside of Mar a Lago it broke through both of those a security points before a ventrally officials launching fire into that vehicle now again the vehicle then sped off they were eventually tracked down and again these custody excuse me this vehicle and the suspects are currently in custody the president is scheduled to visit Mar a Lago later today Chinese expressing frustration that the U. S. is now recommending against travel to China over concerns about the spreading corona virus two hundred reported dead more than ten thousand now infected but Wall Street the Dow down for ninety three S. and P. down fifty points by Mike Martz it scares me captain this is your wake up call for the new tracks on wireless what's in them what if you had to fly this plane was sitting back in the cab I wouldn't have any control well that's what it's like going with some wireless companies but.

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"giuliani mick" Discussed on News Radio WGOW

News Radio WGOW

02:00 min | 9 months ago

"giuliani mick" Discussed on News Radio WGOW

"G. O. W. in Chattanooga special report trope impeachment trial a breaking report says the president instructed his former national security aide to assist him in getting Ukraine to dig up dirt on Democrats months before the infamous July called in which the president mentions the bidens to Ukraine president someone ski or spot to keep on Collins reports the information comes from the New York times they say in early may there was a meeting in the or in the oval office with president trump Rudy Giuliani Mick Mulvaney the chief of staff and perhaps a baloney the White House counsel who is now leading the president's defense on the Senate floor where president trump instructed John Bolton then of course at the time the national security adviser to connect Rudy Giuliani with the new president the Senate trial will resume momentarily a potential Senate vote to acquit the president is expected to come tonight or early tomorrow the president is denying the report in the times and says the meeting Bolton writes about never happened I'm like boss the FBI is responding to what incident and moral long ago the president's Florida home correspondent Kristin homes with the breaking details here call and suspects are currently in because these are the way they describe the situation is essentially the Florida highway patrol with following a black SUV as it barreled towards to security point outside of Mar a Lago it broke through both of those a security points before eventually officials launching fire into that vehicle now again the vehicle then sped off they were eventually tracked down and again these custody TV this vehicle and the suspects are currently in custody the president is scheduled to visit Mar a Lago later today China's expressing frustration that the U. S. is now recommending against travel to China over concerns about the spreading corona virus two hundred reported dead more than ten thousand now infected but Wall Street the Dow down for ninety three S. and P..

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"giuliani mick" Discussed on KDWN 720AM

KDWN 720AM

05:40 min | 11 months ago

"giuliani mick" Discussed on KDWN 720AM

"The FBI had a legitimate basis to open its probative ties between the trump campaign and Russia and there was no partisan bias that's what a justice department inspector general is expected to say today but it's also likely to cite multiple errors during the probe including by an FBI attorney suspected of altering a document related to the surveillance of a former trump campaign aide as I mentioned that report is being released today the justice department inspector general report on the origins of the molar probe however the Attorney General has said this will not be the last word house Judiciary ranking Republican Devin noon as pushing back on allegations that he spoke with former Ukrainian officials in the alleged effort to gather dirt on Joe Biden he's defending phone records that show I'm holding calls with Rudy Giuliani's indicted associate Lev **** Nunez is suing CNN over allegations I want me to my court what are they afraid of what is Jeff Zucker friend you know we can meet next week in court he did we can we can sit down for a meeting he can subpoena my phone records I can subpoena their phone records here's here's what I want to know how is it that six news media outlets have this story in September and this story because they emailed us we have the emails from different news agencies six different news agencies email phony story in Vienna I was in Vienna which show can possibly with some guy old gardening for Tasha nobody went with the story nobody went with the story but even worse than that one US doesn't get indicted this guy part us that now is CNN source a guy who's been indicted as their source okay that should be questionable in and of itself so who gave it to **** or poros as lawyers something that is so demonstrably crazy that I was you know that I was in the in a meeting with choking there's no way I ever said that because it didn't happen so what he is suing CNN for specifically then they they knew that this didn't happen they want yes CNN what within an die somebody who's indicted like to be a likely to be found guilty right and whatever they're doing I believe that it's obstruction of justice so we will be working with the appropriate authorities department of justice will be we will be sending them information will be sitting down with them because somebody concocted this story in order to try to get this part Oscar guy who I've never met with him though because they said that phone call so what I said yeah I said this yesterday I went through my records on Friday okay and I've been very clearly I got a call from from a a number that was part of his wife I remember talking to someone and I do what I always do which is that if I even don't know who they are you he put him to staff and let them use let staff working that person yeah but we also checked I really say this we checked all of our records we have no information from ours we have no documents we have no we we have nothing we have no emails so so there isn't there's nothing that we have in our in our control from parts but you know who's working with partners suppliers to such a bad guy Adam Schiff is the guy working with partners audio courtesy of fox business according to the house intelligence report Giuliani was working with partners Igor for Maine and former journalist an executive vice president of the hill and John Solomon on a smear campaign to oust ambassador Maria von of age meanwhile president trump says Giuliani will soon present his own findings to the White House and Congress that brings us to Republican representative Matt gates who says he welcomes clarity from guiliani gates says he thinks it's strange that Giuliani was in Ukraine last week but he welcomes any possible answers from the report that Giuliani will provide to Congress according to president trump I would never compare mayor Giuliani to a murder suspect let's remember this is the guy who took down the mob in the nineties and who was out there leading a lot of the city of New York during the terrible events of nine eleven so I think he gets the benefit of the doubt that is not a king to a murder suspect but it is weird that is over there and I'm grateful that very soon after I made those comments on CNN the president put out a statement that said that Rudy guiliani does want to come into Congress and explain his role explain what he's been up to and I believe that the president urging mayor guiliani to provide that clearly the Congress will be helpful in resolving what what seems to be odd having him over there at this time well the the the the we actually had a study session representing the president while he's over there of course is the president has blocked his his top witnesses with direct evidence from coming to the Congress you believe that Rudy Giuliani Mick Mulvaney Mike Pompeii should all come testify now I believe that Rudy Giuliani is indicated that he wants to so I think that's a moot point as it relates the other members of the executive branch the president has to make decisions not only for him but for the presidency I think it would in order the president's advantage to have people testify who could exculpate him but the we want to preserve an executive branch where there are out of the box strategy sessions were people come up with crazy ideas and reject those ideas in Hong Kong and if everyone's always worried from now going for that if you suggest something to the president or you're engaging in conversations about an upcoming challenge that that's gonna be read out verbatim to the Congress in the country I think it could it could impair the type of creativity and out of the box thinking that we want to see in the executive so I know it's a tough balance for the president gates appearing on ABC's this week new this morning in New Zealand volcano spewing on massive eruption of ashen steam on thousands of tourists were exploring white island at the time now the search is on for survivors here's a deputy commissioner John Sims unfortunately I can confirm there are five of people now deceased.

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Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani continues mysterious Ukraine adventures

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04:04 min | 11 months ago

Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani continues mysterious Ukraine adventures

"Okay let's move on now to impeachment and you just heard a commercial off right there discussing Rudy Giuliani's trip to Ukraine this week a trip that you said was weird Hey you're not the only one Dan Everhard a strong supporter of president trump donor president trump said the fact the Giuliani is back in Ukraine is like a murder suspect returning to the crime scene to livestream cells moon dancing is bracing on a galactic level is it wise for Rudy Giuliani to be there or and then you just heard cars will often say it could be more examples of increase of power by the president I would never compare mayor Giuliani to a murder suspect let's remember this is the guy who took down the mob in the nineties and who is out there leading a lot of the city of New York during the terrible events of nine eleven so I think he gets the benefit of the doubt that he's not a king to a murder suspect but it is weird that he's over there and I'm grateful that very soon after I made those comments on CNN the president put out a statement that said that Rudy Giuliani does want to come into Congress and explain his role explain what he's been up to and I believe that the president urging mayor guiliani to provide that clarity to the Congress will be helpful in resolving what what seems to be odd having him over there at this time well the the the the visually honey cities actually representing the president while he's over there of course is the president has blocked his his top witnesses with direct evidence from coming to the Congress you believe that Rudy Giuliani Mick Mulvaney Mike Pompeii should all come testify now I believe that Rudy Giuliani is indicated that he wants to so I think that's a moot point as it relates the other members of the executive branch the president has to make decisions not only for him but for the presidency I think it would in order the president's advantage to have people testify who could exculpate him but they we want to preserve an executive branch where there are out of the box strategy sessions were people come up with crazy ideas and reject those ideas and hauling them and if everyone's always worried from now going forward that if you suggest something to the president or you're engaging in conversations about an upcoming challenge that that's going to be read out verbatim to the Congress in the country I think it could it could impair the type of creativity and out of the box thinking that we want to see in the executive so I know it's a tough balance for the president democratically making the case that they're going to say that the president use his power by soliciting foreign interference in the election by just listening interference as for the investigation of Joe Biden even your witness this week even professor Turley said that the president's phone call was not appropriate was not perfect can you explain the American people why you think it's okay for the present nine states to ask for nation to investigate a political opponent and withhold the White House meeting at the same time I reject the premise of the question that's what the president was doing I think the president was acting on it since you're lonely held view and and skepticism of foreign aid I think it was acting on concern about Ukraine being the third most corrupt country in the world I think he was also reflecting specific concern about this biting connection to respond remember it was George can't a witness called by the Democrats who came forward and said we were so worried about the recent that our own embassy had to pull out of a public private partnership that they were engaged in the water so dizzying George is the evolving standards for impeachment from Democrats or through most of twenty nineteen Nancy Pelosi said she opposed impeachment not because the molar facts weren't strong enough in her view but because it wasn't bipartisan she set the standard of bi partisanship for impeachment the only thing that's changed now is that we're moving into an election year and she's willing to pursue a partisan impeachment and you look back to nineteen ninety eight Jerry Nadler chairman was saying that it was ripping votes asunder to pursue a partisan impeachment and no impeachment would be legitimate it was primarily supported by one party and opposed by another this impeachment is exclusively supported by Democrats in Congress it's not just the Democrats can't persuade people like me who support the president they can't even persuade Republicans like will hurt who are critics of the president to support this impeachment so they continue to move the golf course and my friends often were the nicest people in Congress she compared the impeachment in nineteen ninety eight to fascism George fascism no I don't think that history looks kindly on the nineteen ninety eight impeachment and I certainly don't think it will look kindly on the inevitable impeachment of the

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"giuliani mick" Discussed on This Week with George Stephanopoulos

This Week with George Stephanopoulos

12:19 min | 11 months ago

"giuliani mick" Discussed on This Week with George Stephanopoulos

"Good morning and welcome to this week. The witnesses have been heard reports written. Constitutional scholars have weighed in the party. Lines harder by the week and now that Nancy Pelosi has declared Democrats have no choice. There is no turning back president trump on track to become the third American president in history to be impeached impeached. Likely by Christmas next. Step the house. Judiciary Committee will draft debate and vote on articles of impeachment. This week they convened first thing Monday morning. And we're join now by two members of that Committee Democrats Law Firm Republican Matt Gaetz and congresswoman lawfully. Begin with you. You've played a role in every modern impeach. And we're going to show our our viewers some of that evidence right there. You're on the staff of the House Judiciary Committee during the Nixon impeachment back in one thousand nine hundred ninety three member of that committee for Bill Clinton's impeachment in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight and the impeachment of President Trump today but it appears that at least half. The country is unconvinced. Your contention that the allegations against president trump are more serious than the charges against Nixon and Clinton make the concise version of that case on the Nixon case he used presidential powers to influence improperly the election he covered it up using the FBI the CIA. He abused his power and was a voted. The articles of impeachment as a consequence in the case of president trump. Not only has he abused his power to improperly. -opoly put his thumb on on on the scale for the election. He used a foreign power to do it. And that is really hits. All of the buttons that the founding fathers were concerned as you know the Republican made the case that the the president didn't get what he want he didn't get the the investigation. The aide went through well. The aid was suspended for was matter of fact people died while it was suspended But he did use a power to get that end and it's not over. I mean he is using agents to get improper things done to try and tar his opponent and Rudy Giuliani his agent is in Ukraine meeting with KGB trained people today this is an ongoing threat threat to the national security. The president said yesterday that he's going to take a report from Rudy Giuliani rejected report. T- they torney general while I. That's very interesting but the fact that Mr Giuliani Mr Sondheim have acted to try. I and pervert. The national interest to the personal interest is of tremendous concern. It's an ongoing threat to the national security and it's abuse of power that is a needs to be dealt with really. It's it's depressing honestly. I wish the presence behavior had been better. You didn't think the Democrats should move to impeach based on the Mullahs report. Does that mean you're against including evidence laid out by Muller on possible obstruction of justice in these articles of impeachment in my personal view is we should proceed only on those items where we have direct evidence and there is a lot of direct evidence relative to the abuse of power and Ukraine and the Russians relative to the Biden investigation. The Muller report is a report board. We don't have a direct witness testimony for most of that so I think we'd be on firm ground to move forward where we have direct evidence evidence as with the report we will see tomorrow morning at nine. Am from the intelligence and we're going to be covering but they get the other question that's been raised about the speed with which the Democrats Democrats are going forward. You're not gonNa have the evidence as you said from the Mullahs report. Don mcgann hasn't testified yet to the House Judiciary Committee you. Don't have the evidence of Mick Mulvaney of secretary state. Mike pompeo Rudy Giuliani called an agent of the president. Right there and the Washington Post. It had an editorial this week. And here's what they had to say about that. They said the Judiciary Committee. It may well have enough evidence to drop articles of impeachment but the witnesses documents that Mr Trump is improperly blocking might well provide a fuller and too many Americans more persuasive picture of his guilt and American democracy cannot afford for Congress to fail to establish its right to obtain them. The fight for them must not be given up. Why not wait for those witnesses? I well the president has improperly withheld those witnesses the idea that there's absolute immunity. That's preposterous. There's no no basis in law in the constitution for that. I'm mindful that the last time we fully litigated that claim it took eighteen months so to to allow the president to engage in frivolous appeals. So that the appeals extend beyond his term of office really is not what the Constitution Institution provides the constitution says that Congress. She'll have the sole authority when it comes to appeasement and so the question is with the evidence as we have. Can we make a sound conclusion. I think we hand but when we get our presentation tomorrow from the Intelligence Committee I think all of us will have a chance to say all of this direct evidence. Can we reach a conclusion and move forward as our responsibility disability under the constitution provides in. I think the answer's likely yes. Back in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight. You warned. Republicans against undoing. That was your word of free election expressing expressing the will of the people. Here's what you had to say. You will set dangerous precedent that the certainty of presidential terms which is so benefited. Our Wonderful America. Aw will be replaced by the partisan use of impeachment future presence will face election than litigation then impeachment Republicans are accusing echoing net argument today. They're saying that's exactly what has happened. Well I should have said and I think I did say throughout the Clinton impeachment was first. You need a high crime and misdemeanor. Lying about sex is not an abuse of presidential power. Maybe husband power and certainly trump has done the same thing when it comes to stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal were not proceeding on his lies about his affairs. That has nothing to do with the abuse of presidential power any more than it did in the Clinton administration. Here we have an instance as we did with Nixon listen of abuse of power that is vested in the president and the founders were very concerned that the president that they had created in the constitution had enormous enormous powers. In if unchecked views of that power was made to subvert the constitutional order. There had to be a remedy. You've and that remedy was impeachment. Finally I do want to ask you about this shooting in Pensacola the Pensacola naval base on on Friday by that Saudi National FBI. Still Jill investigating whether or not it was a preplanned terrorist attack whether or not they were accomplices but in the wake of the shooting does the United States and we need to be rethinking our relationship with Saudi Arabia. Why why a lot of concerns we have you know they murdered a US person who was a reporter for the Washington Post murdered and dismembered that reporter? We've never gotten accounting for that. So yes there are a lot of questions about Saudi Arabia. Kinda soon after. Thanks for joining us this morning. Thank you and we are joined now by the congressman from from Pensacola Matt. GAETZ congressman gates. Thank you for joining us this morning. First of all our condolences to your entire community in the wake of this shooting leading. Let me let me ask you the same question I just asked congresswoman offering. Do you think it's time to rethink the United States relationship with Saudi Arabia. Georgia thank you for your condolences. Dolences the military is not a feature of my community. It is the defining characteristic of my community. And I've dealt with killed in action down range active duty suicide side but there is a special kind of grief when the bravest most patriotic Americans are putting themselves in harm's way to train people from other countries to be able to protect and defend their own country and then they kill us for it. This isn't the first time my communities experienced that type of grief and it is deeply deeply painful. Of course course what happened in Pensacola has to inform on our ongoing relationship with Saudi Arabia. That is the message I directly delivered to the Saudi ambassador. When she called to offer her condolences? Silence's there are Saudis that are currently with us that are being investigated and I made the point as clearly as I possibly could that we want no interference from the kingdom as as it relates to Saudis that we have and if they're Saudis that we do not have that may have been involved in any way in the planning inspiration financing or execution of this that we expect check Saudi intelligence to work with our government to find the people account or accountable and hold them responsible and I was given every assurance from the ambassador that that would occur. Do you think the president's been been tough enough with Saudi Arabia's delivered the message in the same way you have I'm very grateful to the president For being so on top of this. We've been communicating regularly early. And I can tell you that what you saw from Secretary Esperer in terms of ordering a review of this program is a consequence of the president's leadership We need to have a review of this program and it's my belief that as secretary asper is looking at the record keeping the accounting for the Saudi. Nationals that are in our country. The continuous newest observance and monitoring their activities to ensure that there's not radicalization while that's going on. We should pause this program. We should not be taking new incoming Saudi Saudi students until we are absolutely confident in our vetting process. Let's move on now to impeachment. And you just heard Congressman Law Firm. Right they're discussing Rudy Giuliani's trip trip to Ukraine this week. A trip that you said was weird. You're not the only one Dan everhart strong supporter of president trump donor to president. Trump said the fact that Giuliani is back in Ukraine. Trained is like a murder suspect returned to the crime scene to livestream themselves moon dancing. It's brazen on a galactic level. Is it wise for Rudy. Giuliani to be there and I and you just heard Congresswoman lofgren say it could be more examples of an abusive power by the president. I would never compare. Mayor Giuliani to a murder suspect aspect. Let's remember this is the guy who took down the mob in the nineties and who is out there leading a lot of the city of New York during the terrible events of nine eleven so I think he gets the benefit of the doubt that he's not akin to a murder suspect but it is weird that he's over there and I'm grateful that very soon after I made those comments on CNN. The president put out a statement. That said that Rudy Giuliani does Want to come into Congress and explain his role explain what he's been up to and I believe that. The president urging Mayor Giuliani to provide that clarity to the congress will be helpful in resolving. What seems to be odd having him over there at this time? Well the Weird Giuliani has said. He's actually representing the president while he's over there and of course it's it's the president who's blocked his his top witnesses with direct evidence from coming To the congress you believe that Rudy. Giuliani Mick. Mulvaney Mike Pompeo should come testify right now. I believe that Rudy. Giuliani is indicated. that he wants to. So I think that's a moot point as it relates to the other members of the executive branch the president has to make decisions not only for for him but for the presidency. I think it would order the president's advantage to have people testify. Who could exculpate him but they we want to preserve an executive branch where there are? You're out of the box strategy sessions where people come up with crazy ideas and reject those ideas in home them and if everyone's always worried from now going forward that if you suggest something to the president or you're engaging in conversations about an upcoming challenge that that's going to be read out verbatim to the Congress in the country I could could impair the type of creativity. Get Out of the box thinking that we want to see in the executive so I know it's a tough balance for the president. Democrats are clearly making the case that they're going to say that. The president abused his power by soliciting foreign interference in the election. Soliciting interference investigation Of Joe Biden. Even your witness this week. Even professor Turley said that the president's phone call was not appropriate was not perfect perfect..

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"giuliani mick" Discussed on The Beat with Ari Melber

The Beat with Ari Melber

09:31 min | 1 year ago

"giuliani mick" Discussed on The Beat with Ari Melber

"That Donald Trump is back on the phone asking another nation to involve itself in another. US election that says to me. This president believes he is above the law beyond accountability. And in my view there is nothing more dangerous than an unethical. President who believes there are above the law strong summation in an interview strongest. That will have little or no effect at all. The congress is going into recess for the Thanksgiving holiday. As you know the bunkers have been concreted. They're are closed up. You're talking thirty five. Forty percent on both sides. There's a small margin of independence that will make up their minds as closer but we're in the context of history. We've never seen seen before we have a Democratic Party. That's going through a traditional blow up of everything we're moving into a political season in just a couple of months and most importantly as you pointed out we have no agreement on truth or facts. No one can agree whether the the the sky is blue or whether chocolate whether it be darker Kerr light is black or chocolate. What do you think of the substance of this compared to the Watergate example? You have some experience in the Watergate hearings were committed by both both sides. BIPARTISAN SUBSTANCE NOT PROCESS. Peter Substance Substance. Yeah they were looking on asking. You See I'm pressing you get people in here. Who Want to tell me they can see the future and I got news for you and everyone else at home? The people on television can't see in the future better than than anyone else. Six months ago people would sit at tables like this and say Pelosi's not impeaching Ching because they could see the future but they were wrong so I guess what I'm pressing you on. Is the evidence that we saw this week. Your view of that as it compares to the evidence that came out in the Watergate hearings obstruction of justice abuse of power contempt of Congress where the three articles of impeachment against Nixon kind of matches up with what we've seen this week. The other two were the bombing of Cambodia on the tax evasion by Nixon. Those were forgotten one of the big things that is missed. Here I agree. He's going to be impeached by the House. Judiciary Committee no question about that. There are serious problems. uh-huh with German Nadler in terms of you pointing out. It's going to be a wild scene that he doesn't seem to have the capacity nor the will to discipline the way shifted in his committee. That's interesting and I think something that goes to how the evidence comes out. You're saying that there were different approaches. which is part of why Shifts Committee got so much farther that and also the decision to move it shifts committee think of Shifts Committee Sammer winning the Watergate Committee in the beginning? Then it was passed a Peter Odeen on the judiciary committee. There's another very important point about all of this is that bills are passed. Legislative bills are passed with amendments and in a very famous scene from from senior staff during the Watergate. Staffing Jack Brooks Congressman from Texas. Walked in. And said don't forget how a bill is passed you can't you had to have just one article of impeachment. You need to provide the opportunity for Republicans and Democrats to say listen. I thought carefully I considered it. I voted voted against two. So they're going to be. I suspect very interesting. Three articles on the other hand. If there's only one it gives Democrats perhaps a better chance taking back. The Senate say Susan Collins would have to vote either yes or no put turn greater jeopardy. There are so many levels of chess being played here that it's it's just just extraordinarily complicated but wild is the perfect world where we're GONNA move into in a couple of weeks w your view on that the potential articles. Yeah I think that I've heard lots of chatter chatter. All along about Democrats are going to narrow. Ukraine is the tip of the iceberg. We should be doing emoluments. We should be doing self-enrichment we should be doing all the corruption. We should be doing the racism and I think the decision to really winnow it down to a conversation about this one moment in time. This phone call quid pro quo this extortion scheme. Same with the decision to make it simple and clear and understandable them there are. There was a huge menu to choose from. They decided to go straight up the middle on something that they felt the public understand right and that goes became so clear and Michelle the other thing that is clear and simple whether people agree with it or not. This is no longer a bad apples. Defense Mister Song works for the President testified got on a plane and continued his representation of the president that in abroad and said this wasn't bad. Apples wasn't shadow. It was all rotten apples. It was all the shadow was the policy. Some of that was underscore even in Republican questioning. Take a look the anyone else. Express any concerns to you about this so-called a regular channel. I'm I'm not sure how someone could characterize something as an irregular channel when you're talking to the president of the United States the secretary of state the National Security the advisor Chief of staff of the White House the Secretary of energy. What was he doing there? And how does that affect people's understanding ending of how high this wet. This is an important point for him to make because there had been some talk about whether Republican lawmakers and others in order to protect to the president. We're GONNA throw some people under the bus. Online Rudy Giuliani Mick. Mulvaney with his testimony. The ambassador was making very clear her that this was not some rogue action that a couple of people were involved in. This was the regular channel that the president himself was directing and he said that repeatedly that it was the understanding that they had to work with Rudy Giuliani because this was coming straight from the desires of president trump. Take a look as well as Ken Starr who was of course. The face and the prosecutor in the last impeachment Americans lived through who has been providing his running commentary on Fox News. Not all all of it super supportive. Here's a little bit of it. The chairman began with essentially pulling out the Richard. Nixon articles impeachment figuratively speaking and he pointed to the third article contempt contempt in the sense of you stood in the way of this investigation. Then ambassador Sunland spoke vehemently and bitterly about his lack of access to records to help him. I oh I think. Articles of impeachment are being drawn up if they haven't already been drawn up Michelle. There's been much talk about where the party stand. What does it tell you that conservative legal voices like Mr Starr Conservatives in the movement Reagan aide? Peggy Noonan did sound more more starkly critical this week as they appraise the evidence in public there were a couple of moments that I think surprised everybody during these hearings one was song talking about making very clear that he had been denied access to these documents that he wanted and that he thought that they should be turned over to the committee as well. The other one was during Marie Ivanovich is testimony. When trump started tweeting at her her and Chairman Shifts stopped the proceedings to make clear that he was willing to consider this intimidation of a witness which also prompted a lot of surprise remarks and commentary from conservatives across across the social media and regular media and I think that those sorts of things. We'll we'll come back in the articles impeachment discussions. Definitely Peter. Think she's right. I think the ultimate challenge though given my experience in seventy four where you had three networks people who missed it during the day even though millions were focused on it came back at six thirty at night Walter Cronkite Huntley Brinkley. The PBS with Bill Moyers. Now there's so many out to bill moyers and there was a real attempt on all sides to get the truth just as you're trying to do here and the media's just doing in general but today there are so many platforms of disinformation that it's almost impossible for the public to actually go through this and second it's delivered on so many different methodologies as well it becomes extremely difficult the word surprise to me no longer is in my vocabulary when it comes to Donald Donald Trump and I think for the most part. That's true of anyone. I don't see a smoking gun coming up. I mean even some sort of embrace of Putin physically isn't going to surprise anyone. It's pretty clear. He's he's looking forward to Putin taking America back. I think that the most important thing that Peter is saying is that what is different is this is packaged. In the moment it is. Donald Trump is witness tampering. In real time a minute later it's gone it's gone. It's not on Fox News this week. We have unbelievably damning. Roll up of Mick Mulvaney of Mike Pence of everyone by sandline. It's gone it's not on Fox News and I think I think the idea that there are these lasting permanent distilled moments of Gotcha I think the Watergate era fit in a break. But it's it's all very very important stuff have to consider as you look towards what the Judiciary Committee does with these facts and what. The public understands the facts to be dialing quick and Peter Emerson here Michelle cottle in Washington. Thanks to each of you coming up my special official report as promise on the key evidence. It's emerged from everyone.

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"giuliani mick" Discussed on Reason Podcast

Reason Podcast

12:09 min | 1 year ago

"giuliani mick" Discussed on Reason Podcast

"Wow It's the a true holiday cyber holiday Monday Peter I would up the voltage on the Shock treatment. He's he's got to get point out of the gate before are we get started here. This is a special message to you the listening audience a please send us your questions about the proper dose. Superman's voltage the proper mixing of my metaphors. Whatever ask US literally anything using the email address podcasts? Since it's plural at reason dot com. Because we're GONNA be taping a bonus episode after Thanksgiving during our annual reason. Webvan and we want you to you. Stumped bus challenge US individually as a group. You will drive the train of this podcast including straight into the ditch. If you want to you have one week to send us those questions so again. Ask US anything PODCASTS. At reason dot com. You'll be glad you did okay. So let's set this up last week. The house impeachment inquiry wrapped up. Its first round of work by interviewing a succession of diplomats awesome bureaucrats who had a variety of different vantage points on what former national security adviser John Bolton colorfully described as a drug deal we'll namely the attempts by president trump. His personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani. Mick Mulvaney Mike Pompeo Rick Para at all to condition both a White House meeting along with new Ukrainian President Vladimir Zhirinovsky and also nearly a half billion dollars in the release of already authorized security systems to Ukraine a conditioning all this this on Dolinsky stating publicly that his country was launching an investigation into the family of Twenty Twenty Democratic Frontrunner. Joe Biden the two most impactful that can and use that word which I can't nope no you can. It's impactful fine. Just don't say impact as verb right Catherine talking about like meteoric against all of it asked why. Why are you guys trying to hold the line on the natural evolution of language from a bottom up process of Mongrelisation exactly Nicholas. Thank you and answer. Whether we're talking. Friedrich her Salma. It's all about just changing the lingo lingo. You know as long as you're dead ends Nekia ninety nine percent luck. We add anybody. Reading Marvel Comics knows that you know ninety nine point nine percent of mutations things are are dead ends they kill people but you know then you get into the fantastic four so the word impactful is a Superhero Superhero. Also the fantastic four aren't mutants They've been me wait they are. They are broadly under saddle understand lease broad definition of children of the atom as he talks about the origin of marvel comics as well as the son of the origins Auerbach. We really don't want to talk about the impeachment. Do this this. This is total evidence. Catherine I just going to throw it out to you. Cut off previous thoughts. What have we learned since last week? Convened this August gathering of comics nerds What have we learned? What if anything or how if any way has your Approach or thoughts about impeachment changed with this new knowledge gathering warden. I Say I've Gone Meta on the whole thing so I know apologize right now for not having useful insights about you know Fiona Hill's testimony other than that the whole Internet seemed to enjoy her SAS. But my thought is as Liz Nolan. When Braun summarized this morning in the reason round up There seems to have been this process of post hoc rationalization of the quid pro quo. Did you like my L. Latin. You like that and I'm having I'm having some deep thoughts about about rationalization in general and how huge of a role it plays in our politics. Donald Trump does what he wants to do on the spur of the moment. He is not alone in that many many politicians and in fact just humans is in general. Behave that way. And then if he gets in trouble he kinda builds the case after the fact for why he did the thing and this is a normal thing. People do it all the time but when you have an entire impeachment inquiry where everyone is staring directly at those moments when when you didn't have the rationalization in place to see if there was any evidence for that rationalization it's not gonNa work and As that clip that you played that we played at the beginning. The show points out like when even the Fox and friends hosts are like. I don't think that's quite right. Actually like that's their equivalent of losing their minds. Oxen fronts hosts who literally understand themselves as the trump whispers. The people who job is to play directly Lee to the president to please him in fact where Fox and friends is a show where people outside the beltway. Who Sort of? Don't kind of think about this thing. It is not an exaggeration adulation to say that people who work inside the White House I mean the White House part of the White House. Not One of those The set of executive buildings. It's next twit inside the White House one of the thirty or something rooms where the president and his staff works. They will tell you that the best way to communicate with Donald Trump trump and get. His attention is not to go into his office and try to talk to him but to go on Fox and and France. It's amazing and this is the fact the these guys also know that the president's favor can be fleeting that That to cross is legitimately to risk losing that favor that they would even have attempted to push back on the Ukrainian crowd strike theory shows. How very very far afield that is and yet yet? The president plows ahead so I'm thinking thoughts about how people try to justify their decisions after the fact and that it is a plausible story. It is a plausible story to say. Hey Hey maybe the Ukraine was up to some stuff that was genuinely bad for. US National Security and the president wanted to look into it. It's just not a true story as far as I can tell how from all the rest of the other peach crate information. The crowd strikes certainly is not that's been debunked by a wide variety of sources. But this is where Especially if you're going Meta the discussion over impeachment is I find it infuriating and kind of so awful because it becomes hyper politicized. The crowd strike story is false. Did Ukraine try to influence the two thousand sixteen election. Everybody said so in early. Two thousand seventeen without even raising it to the level of moral panic because we hadn't yet agreed that this was the the be all and end all of terrible things in America up. I'm so like I'm looking at politico story from January of two thousand seventeen. CBS News Stories from later in the year you can Google and find all of this stuff. Everywhere where a variety of Ukrainian interests were trying to make sure that Donald Trump did not become president. Because for the same reason that Putin didn't want Hillary Clinton went to become president. Ukraine did not want Donald Trump to become president and that's worth investigating and this is one of the great things about being libertarian. About being outside the Beltway Beltway about not being beholden to either the Republican or the Democratic Party or the liberal or Conservative narratives is that we don't have to follow their leads. We we should be looking at all of this stuff. Broadly trump is wrong and he is willfully wrong willfully stupid one. Thanks assumes right. We're giving him the benefit of the doubt when he pursues debunk conspiracy theories the larger conversation about foreign interference in American elections You know it's not wrong to say Ukraine was trying to make sure that Donald Trump did not become elected just like Russia was trying to make sure that Hillary Clinton was tr what's not elected. What the impact of all that was what? What do we do next? Is something different the impeachment. Something else different again. Just to a little footnote there though is that what Republicans are saying. Isn't that Ukraine. Tried to influence the election. They are suggesting that Ukraine was responsible for hacking the DNC and some some elements are not all. Yeah and that's wrong right or the American intelligence operate W- agencies which of course have next to no credibility because they have bend the biggest fomenters of lies misdirection and misinformation since their founding you know in in the immediate postwar era they say that it was Russia was the Russian government was behind the wikileaks hacking and dissemination of emails from the DNC. So let's go with that Not all Republicans and again. I don't care what the Republicans are saying. I care about the way that this discussion gets framed in such a way that suddenly now we are supposed to believe. Leave John Bolton who you know. Six months ago a year ago we all knew was an architect of among the worst elements of American foreign policy. Now Oh he becomes a knight in shining armor. We need to maintain a little bit more distance in a little bit more perspective. On on the way these things keep shifting in order to pass or to push very particular partisan agendas That none of us actually agree with that. I think it's an important distinction to make here and I think there's a distinction that can be made as we Assess the impeachment proceedings itself which is There is people who were architects protects of really bad policies. That led to much much more grievous outcomes than anything under discussion here right right yeah act roar a little bit more momentous than some penny. Let's try to to to squeeze the Ukrainian to get dirt on Biden. I mean it it just it it. It's a completely different scale. However there is something different between personal corruption and abuse of power and really bad policy? And I think it's useful to uh-huh to carry both of those thoughts in your mind and figure out at. What is the impeachment process for? Is it too correct bad policy. That actually is more important. Accordance or is it to forestall the type of corrupt penny ante personal abuse of power on I think Jacobson's piece on Friday was very good in kind of like trying to sort through that and think throughout without even coming up with conclusions. Catherine I interrupted you. Go on now that was basically say actually just that there. There's a distinction there also so even if there are good reasons on multiple levels to to worry about and to even compare records on election interference by many countries. It's still not at all clear to anyone anywhere. In this mix that that is what Donald Trump had in mind during the famous famous interactions and that looks from all evidence that I've seen that there was just this personal stake which is as you say at a different thing. Yeah yeah I mean Rudy. Giuliani again was saying very very explicitly on the record in May that he was going to Ukraine to dig up dirt on the Biden's that he he thought would be personally beneficial to his client. Peter a you have weighed in on what you learned last week. Well I stayed off the Internet for the last three or four days so I learned that it was wonderful talking about impeachment for for several days at a time there I would suggest there's two things the jumped out at me. One is the willingness of Republicans not only to Sort of try to turn the tables on Democrats and re focused focus entirely on the process. Which is what I've talked about before but you embrace just completely debunked notions about Ukraine?.

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"giuliani mick" Discussed on WTMJ 620

WTMJ 620

01:44 min | 1 year ago

"giuliani mick" Discussed on WTMJ 620

"Issues in the form of a simple question was there a quid pro quo as I testified previously with regard to the requested White House call and the White House meeting the answer is yes Mr Giuliani conveyed to secretary Perry ambassador Volker and others president trump wanted a public statement from president salen ski committing to investigations of response and the two thousand sixteen election someone said they were all in the loop ABC's George Stephanopoulos started within bass or someone saying he was following the direction of the president was following orders of the president when he and ambassador pairing about some vocal told to talk to reduce Giuliani after may twenty third meeting he then proceeded to go on and drive everyone into his web saying everyone was in the loop in implicating not only the president at his direction not only Rudy guiliani the president's lawyer but also the secretary of state Mike Pompeii or the vice president Mike pence the national security adviser John Bolton and others on the National Security Council again his words twice everyone in the loop fox news is Chris Wallace gorgeous online was trying to do here was to protect himself more than he is to protect anybody else to a certain degree took out the boss and he ran over president trump vice president pants Mike Pompeii John Bolton Rudy Giuliani Mick Mulvaney he implicates all of them and one of the things is a means to say is this wasn't a rogue operation I wasn't a free lancer everybody knew everybody was in the loop on this what is president trump have to say he is outside the White House I know well seems like a nice guy go what I don't know well he.

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"giuliani mick" Discussed on 790 KABC

790 KABC

05:44 min | 1 year ago

"giuliani mick" Discussed on 790 KABC

"Can import that he is reading from is from a source told Interfax Ukraine also being reported by Reuters Ukraine's foreign minister of a demon priest I go said on Thursday the US ambassador Gordon someone did not explicitly link military aid to Kiev with opening an investigation former vice president Joe Biden and his son from his allies are accused by Democrats of doing it just that from of course has said that the inquiry is a witch hunt recycle said about someone Gordon someone the US ambassador to the U. quote ambassador someone did not tell us and certainly do not tell me about a connection between the assistance and investigations you should ask him recycles comments came a day after William Taylor the acting ambassador to Ukraine testified in the first televised hearing of the impeachment inquiry and Taylor had pointed to trump's keen interest in getting the European allies to investigate Biden and reiterated his understanding that three hundred ninety one million dollars in US security it was withheld from Kiev unless it cooperated Taylor also said that a member of his staff over heard eight July twenty sixth phone call between trump and someone in which the Republican president asked about investigations into the bidens and someone told him at that Ukrainians ready to proceed because like I said I've never seen a direct relationship between investigations and security assistance yes the investigations were mentioned you know in the conversation the president but there is no clear connection between these events so one truck brings that out he says okay even Ukrainians are not claiming that there is an attempt to bribe or a quid pro quo well that does carry some weight obviously now what Democrats are going to claim is what do you think you gradients are gonna say of course they're gonna say what they need to say trump is the present they want the aid to keep coming and that is what the Democrats are going to claim and it turns out that now it is being reported that a second state department official over heard president trump's call with the EU envoy discussed in Ukraine and investigations The Washington Post reports that house speaker Nancy Pelosi said on Thursday the testimony presented by two career diplomats during Wednesday's open impeachment hearing corroborated evidence of bribery meanwhile it was learned on Thursday that a second official from the US embassy in Kiev was present when US ambassador to the U. Gordon someone spoke on July twenty sixth phone call from Ukraine with from the more directly ties the president his administration's efforts to persuade you cranes at new leadership so we will find out if there was indeed a second phone call from denied that there is a second phone call between him and son when his is the only phone call here members having with someone was saying there was no quid pro quo all the way through bill Taylor says he talked to an aide to talk to someone who overheard someone and someone was talking with trump about the investigation we'll see what comes out as I've said all along there only a few witnesses who actually matter in this inquiry those witnesses are people who have a direct window into the mind of president trump and his intentionality with regard to Joe Biden those people would be by name re Giuliani Mick Mulvaney the chief of staff for the president United States in the garden someone who's already slated to testify next Wednesday that would be a bomb shell testimony that's the testimony that if you think any of this matters actually matters and perhaps John Bolton although we don't know what conversations bald head directly with from about the issues in Ukraine in the meantime the Democrats are basically in a holding pattern the bringing forth all these sort of ancillary witnesses to testify to things that we already knows where you know the president trump was getting advice on Ukraine former Giuliani and we already know that each of Giuliani's words pretty seriously he said so openly in that transcript or quasi transcript of the July twenty fifth phone call was once he saw nothing new is here so what Democrats are really trying to do today is they're bringing forth Maria von image who is the American ambassador to Ukraine trump fired her and he had every ability to do so but what they're trying to say is that trump foreign policy is driven by personal animus and I really Giuliani's information okay well both of those things can be true and I can still not be an impeachable offense but the fact is that he did fire Ivanovic pretty much before anything happened right he he fired her before any of this discussion about withholding military aid took place Ivanovic was removed from her job early on in in the last year right lose it was not as though she was there for any of this and that's what that's what the Republicans are pointing out today they're saying like why is this lady even being called also trump has the right to fire an ambassador for any reason she works at the pleasure of the president even Adam Schefter had to acknowledge in his early morning hearing yeah I do acknowledge that president trump has the right to fire any ambassador that he wants club eleven some of argued that a president has the ability to nominate or remove any ambassador he wants that they serve at the pleasure of the president and that is true isn't what exit why is why is she here why is she here and here's your vantage admitting full scale the president trump has actually strengthened our policy toward grains of the idea is that we we get our policy toward Ukraine because he fired a lot of it's the evidence is simply not there here's your managing and knowledge in the term strengthen America's policy against Russia by helping Ukraine with military aid the US is provided significant security assistance since the onset of the war against Russia in twenty fourteen and the trump administration strengthened our policy by proving the provision to Ukraine of anti tank missiles known as chaplains okay bottom line is that the V. idea the vantage has anything truly damning to say about trump is wrong she's never had a conversation with from I she she's never had anything really to say about from other than Rudy Giuliani's getting from bad information which which again Giuliani the cross as you can see the media straining to try to explain why your bondage is actually relevant to this inquiry the best one of the day comes from The Washington Post about all of this will get to that in just one second first let's talk about an unfortunate eventuality like you will have to deal with healthcare system the reason you'll have to deal with the healthcare system is because everybody gets sick everybody gets injured everybody has to go to the doctor but here's what you want when you go to the.

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"giuliani mick" Discussed on State of the Union with Jake Tapper

State of the Union with Jake Tapper

05:47 min | 1 year ago

"giuliani mick" Discussed on State of the Union with Jake Tapper

"Seems that nobody has any first-hand knowledge or is no I then now let's add all that matters is one thing to France grip and the transcript is perfect. Transcript being perfect but he is true that the first hand testimonies dot com yet president trump distancing himself today or or this week from new testimony releases. Weekend where Arche officials who may have that firsthand knowledge. They're not to be found. Let's discuss but I I have a little house cleaning first of all I WANNA hold up career. John Perez new book moving forward. It's the only reason we're allowed to have you on CNN today. So thank you so much. Congratulations to book and second of all. We have to veterans at the table. And I want to say thank you so much for your sacrifices and your service really appreciate it congressman. Let me start with you. It does seem essential. That Rudy Giuliani. Mick Mulvaney who have the firsthand knowledge of what president and trump told them or did not tell them to do testify are we. Are we ever going to hear from them. That's a great question you know. I've been a congressman for just about a year or so so I can remember what it's it's like not to be a congressman watching TV. I remember when I was in Afghanistan. He turned on the TV. You see how ridiculous politics is. Rudy Giuliani Mick. Mulvaney perfectly evincing. Tsing that at this moment. If there's nothing to hide then just come up and speak with these with these committees. This is not difficult. This is checkers chess. And and you're on We should point out. You're on the trump campaign advisory committee. David what do you think it's not a bad argument. Like if there's nothing to hide Mulvaney and testify but this is also this. This is also politics at the highest level right being played on both sides. Now this is. This isn't about exposition of the truth. As much as it is an expertise as you know politics at this point and so I think there's absolutely zero to gain from either of those gentlemen going to testify and the perjury trap that Mr Sahlin found out that he was was he almost got himself into well. There's zero to gain the truth to gain. I mean if you put somebody under oath you. Hopefully we'll get the truth truth and these are the people who do have firsthand knowledge Mulvaney. He's now joined the lawsuit to say you know court telling me what to do. Because I'm caught between between two branches of government and there you have the president saying Oh yeah Mick Mulvaney I he i. I'm fine with him going up. Well if you're fine with him going up why not send him up but do what do you think. Where do you think this is a potential constitutional crisis that we have here because? There's no way that Giuliani and mulvaney want to go willingly. They've made that clear And so it's the question of the executive privilege being asserted by the White House versus Congress. Saying we were subpoenaed. I always go back to this the do me a favor though. Oh we have to ruin the drought in the transcript and we got we saw the memo of of of that transcript and this is what Donald Trump says. He admitted committed to it. So when they talk about the whistle blower argument is kind of mute. Now when we talk about the we look at the depositions diplomat after diplomat Matt have gone on record to say give their first account of what happened. The president has admitted it in the memo. He admitted in front of the cameras. Mick Mulvaney admitted admitted his lawyer. Giuliani admitted like we already know where we stand with this because the truth is out there. which is digging in to make sure we can connect the dot the secret and this is where we disagree and this is where I think there's testimony that there? There's no testimony you jake you'll you you said this earlier segment Senator Johnson says this as well the testimony from all these all these officials say we're talking about a meeting about the potential meeting between President Dolinsky. That's the only first hand knowledge that anybody has that they'll talk about You'll see whether it's Tim Morrison. Who said what kind of take it with the national security stuff? I didn't think he was first on the call so veneman was to the only two people who are actually participants. Participants in the call said Moore said I look. I didn't like it but I don't think it's legal and nobody talks about. There was no discussion of aid during any of the. It was so upset about this. This is lieutenant colonel. He's a decorated veteran about it. And then He. He went to his boss. John Bolton said he didn't want to be part of this deal and they went to disagree the Colonel Vitamin Vitamin thinks. He's doing exactly what is correct in this case I don't disagree with at all. I disagree with his analysis. The whole policy people have different opinion. Listen if you went to foggy bottom and asked about Iran if you were foggy bottom massive at the Paris accord get lots of people pushing back in. You can vote on this way too much in the weeds right now. Okay so there's some very important questions here. Why when the President United States had the opportunity to bring up anyone anyone in the world? Why did he bring up? The Biden family during that conversation rough transcript and moreover conversation well once once I is it. Okay though for a president a senator a congress person to use their office to advance their own self interest. I'm sure you don't think that's okay. So there's all we are trying to get to the bottom of continue to office. Skate deflect. Talk about this person that person you are not seeing the big picture here which is the fact that potentially potentially and that's all we're trying to get to. The United States talked about draining the swamp and he became part of it so so what the President says and and the answer to that question is he's talking about corruption talked about corruption with with Senator Johnson earlier talked about crush on numerous attempts sought. Saw Ukraine is is is a is a cesspool of corruption because the conversation going coming up.

"giuliani mick" Discussed on Anderson Cooper 360

Anderson Cooper 360

11:07 min | 1 year ago

"giuliani mick" Discussed on Anderson Cooper 360

"Good evening. John Berman here in for Anderson. Tonight Mick Mulvaney in the middle right in the middle and that might be a very uncomfortable. The place to be the job of the White House. Chief of staff is to implement the president's policy in new testimony released today says it was Mick Mulvaney implementing the the policy of pressuring Ukraine for the President's own political gain new the res transcripts from two top national security aides in the White House. Now Time Mick Mulvaney Dany to a direct role in what has been called a quid pro quo others call the shakedowns. Some call the bribery at the heart of the impeachment inquiry this on the day that mulvaney subpoena and skipped his deposition on Capitol Hill. Both the on a hill and Lieutenant Colonel Alexander van men say the president's Ambassador to the EU Gordon Song told told them during a July meeting that he had spoken to Mulvaney and that there would be no meeting between the two heads of state nor military aid for Ukraine without quote investigations. Colonel said quote the whole came from the chief of Staff's Office Hill said quote. We were told that it actually came as a direction from the chief of staff office colonel and called the administration's expectations of Ukraine of Ukraine quote a deliverable in ambassador. Someone's meaning he. He said quote there was no doubt he also said this of sunlen quote he was calling for something. Calling for an investigation that didn't exist into the Biden's in Barista Hill says her superior National Security Adviser John Bolton called this quote improper arrangement also today bones lawyer in a letter to Congress made clear his his client has extensive knowledge about relevant meetings and conversations that could be important for the impeachment inquiry but that he won't testify until and unless federal the judge rules on whether he must comply with congressional subpoena here to discuss all of this is Congressman Denny. Heck a member of the intelligence committee which conducted the closed door hearings. In which next next week we'll begin the public phase of the impeachment inquiry congressman. Heck thank you very much for being with us. These transcripts in the statements from Fiona Hill in Lieutenant Colonel Vincent and do you think this brings this all closer to the president himself. I don't think there's any doubt about it for first of all John. I serve with Mick Mulvaney for several several years in the House of Representatives. I know back. There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that he never would have implemented. This had it not been at the direction of the president and secondly a bit of a unique the perspective. I'm a former chief-of-staff buy-sell for Governor Booth Gardner out here in Washington State. I guarantee you know chief of staff is going to implement anything of that. Importance uh-huh without direction from their principal in this case the president of the United States. But let's be clear and let's be correct in our terminology John. He's the acting chief of staff and frankly I'm not very sure or confident. He's going to be the acting chief of staff much longer because I think what's about to happen here is that he and ambassador Sunland online and perhaps Rudy Giuliani or all about to get thrown under the bus. Okay you bring up the Washington Post reports. which does suggest that re- Giuliani Mick? Mulvaney eighty an impasse. There might be treated as fog is from some supporters of the president in your mind. You just said that doesn't hold any water. Why mm-hmm because again? It defies credibility that the president's personal lawyer a large donor who had a ready access to the president. That's what ambassador Sunland did and his acting chief of staff would be carrying out these kinds of important acts without the direction of the President United States sites. It just defies credibility. And that's even before you consider the fact that of course we have the president's own confession in the form of the memorandum of call between himself often President Zielinski in which he actually attempted shakedown. The president of Ukraine clearly explicitly in arguably having read the transcripts of what. Colonel Vincent and Fiona Hill said. Neither of them said they heard directly from Mick Mulvaney about this. They say they heard from Sunlen who heard from Mulvaney was the significance of that? So John here we are. You can either believe that all of these. The people that came forward mostly career diplomats people across federal agencies across continents. All of these people who have come forward and giving depositions positions every one of which has in every material way corroborated one another and their narrative and the set of facts that they've brought to light. You can either believe they're are not telling the truth. And Somehow conspiratorially they all got together they all contrived all of this they cross the T.'s and dotted the is. You can believe they did that. Or you can believe would which frankly I think commonsense likelier to be the case. The president's lying Mick Mulvaney receive subpoenaed to testify today. He skipped it. Obviously I'm sure you would like to hear from him directly what he has to say about it but now that he hasn't shown up. Your committee isn't going to fight it in court. Why not? We're not going to play a rope a dope. That's another delaying tactic. On their part they'd like to see this extended for months if not years. It's a tried tried and true. Play out of the presence playbook even when he was in In the private sector what he would do with the subcontractors litigated them into oblivion but secondly we you don't need it. There's a mountain of evidence against the president beginning with of course his own confession. Which again acting chief-of-staff Mick Mulvaney signed in the formative formative press conference in which he acknowledged that there was a quid pro? Cool bribery this for that and the text and The testimony of all of these people we've deposed they all point to the President John Bolton who was the national security advisor his lawyer wrote a letter to Congress today saying saying that Bolton knows many relevant things that happened it was part of many relevant meetings and if he did testify would have things to to say that would shed more light in all of this. You have any idea what he means. And I want to remind you and our viewers that he defied a subpoena to testify well. Actually we didn't issue the subpoena. John a doctor. You invited him. And he didn't again show up and he made clear that he would defy subpoena if it was issued right. And I'd like to think frankly that embassador Bolton would come forward. I think frankly wrinkly John. It's the patriotic thing to do. He's acknowledged that he has relevant information. I think his responsibility in his duty as a citizen to share it with us and with the American public and in fact I wish that he would take a page out of the book of two of the people that worked for him Colonel Denman and Dr Fiona Hill who had the courage to come Ford share with the committee. Speak Truth to power about what went on here but again we're not gonNA play rope a dope. We're not going to subject ourselves to month after month. After month of apple protracted legal battle. I do want to ask about the testimony. The depositions transcripts that have been released because you can look at this as if there are two buckets. There's one bucket which is did it happen and then the other bucket of is an impeachable. The did it happen. Bucket is overflowing at this point based on the deposition you you have this what you describe as mountain of evidence about what took place. The is an impeachable bucket. How do you intend to prove that next week when these series go public so John? That decision is really one of a matter of conscience of each of the four hundred thirty five members of the House and the hundred members of the Senate that's a question of them engaging in personal reflection and I dare say prayerful reflection about what is at stake here If you believe that the president's shaking down Ukraine threatening to withhold critical military assistance to a vulnerable ally vulnerable strategic ally in Ukraine who's trying to combat Russian aggression and let's remember that they're thirteen thousand Ukrainians who have lost their lives on their Homeland soil defending themselves against Russian aggression. If you believe the trail of of his oath of office in that abuse of power is impeachable. Then you'll get to. Yes but it's up to each of the four hundred and thirty five members to consider the fact but you're right. I mean there is a mountain of evidence and it is arguable and yet the president has not acknowledged in any way shape or form nor anyone around. I'd like for us to get to the point. Where the debate was is it or is it not impeachable but it is a fact congressman? Denny heck thanks for being with US tonight I appreciate it. Thank you for more on Mick Mulvaney vaisnys role in all this want to bring in CNN chiefly land list and former federal prosecutor Jeffrey toobin and CNN political analysts in New York Times. White House correspondent Maggie Haberman. Thank you both for being here Maggie just just based on what you know about how this White House works and what Mick Mulvaney is role is in it. Does he freelance. Would he freelance on something of this important. Want to speculate without having actual details but about this instance but what we do know is in the past. Mulvaney has not been known to go do things. Well outside of what the president is aware of. We certainly know that he we knew. Even before all this testimony that he was involved in terms of directing the freeze on the aid that he was acting on orders from the president. That's basically what we knew now. We have heard his name. Come up repeatedly in testimony and given the fact that this was going on over a period of many months these conversations. It is hard to imagine that this was all happening. You know with Mulvaney on his own and the president was unaware Mulvaney is going to be a key witness as you said did for Congress to get to before them. I don't know that that's going to happen. But he holds. The answers to a lot of this has always been Mick Mulvaney. He wants to let trump be trump. It's never let mc MC I mean Mick. Mulvaney is role in there is to implement Donald Trump's policy in wishes and wins right. That is certainly how he has described his own role. I think there might be times where he is pushing back more than he says. But there's certainly nothing that I have heard so far and might more might come out but nothing that I have heard. That suggests that he was trying to stop this or suggested at the president. This is a bad idea and remember John One of the things. We don't have an answer to still is who came up with this India to freeze the aid. Where where did this actually come from this come from Guiliani to this comfortable vinnie? Did this come from trump. I I could see trump saying you know what we send too much money doing it. That way. That's sort of what Mulvaney frankly had suggested in that White House briefing that he did. Look the president has questions all the time about sending aid to certain places so we have to say in fact you point point out the one time we have heard Mick Mulvaney talk about this extensively he more or less said yes. Yes this all happen Jeffrey..