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"giovane holland" Discussed on The Phinsider
"Jake i mean that's a great question. Maybe that's why they went into training camp and preseason with so many receivers because they were hoping one of these guys truly seize that moment. I mean i'll be the first one to throw egg on my face. I believe pressed. The williams was good. Would he have one reception on three catches for two yards. I thought albert. We'll see no. This was his year. You know he was the big playmaker throughout camp. I mean as he that dynamic playmaker was just a flash in the pan it seems like it was a flash payment those two critical drops so You know for a unit that we sat here and you know thought was one of the stronger points jake. I think you're probably closer to right. You know this. This receiving core is probably a bigger issue than we lead on to believe but when you have an offensive line that can't hold up. Maybe we just are expecting too much out of that group so again. I think it's a little bit of everyone that fall here. Jake the question. I have is. No god's he's calling plays now they have co offense coordinators at will point you pull the pull the play calls from him and let studs they'll go out there and hopefully try to write this thing because i mean part of the reason you have those two chefs in the kitchen is so that will one of these guys isn't getting results. I mean again. I don't know who's a fall here could be the offensive line could be a mixture things but at some point. I think we're gonna have to sit here. And say is george godsey. The prompt should we let studs. They'll do some things because This offense has to do better. Jackie say that. I can think about is the fact that we you said you're excited. Mike a sticky. Get more involved than i was too. But he had three catches on six targets and with george godsey called the plays. He's someone use a tight ends coach. I thought for sure this would be a team. That could thrive what the tight ends and we see carter out there playing a lot more sampson. I think we'd like to see. He had one reception for eight yards. But just generally speaking. I felt the tight ends with be a much bigger part of this offense if you're gonna keep twelve. Oh i mean you've got to do something with them. i mean. we can't see a sticky being a guy who just plays like four or five snaps makes four or five plays in his done. This guy needs to be a really big pardons offense especially in the red zone and we didn't see that from god's see i don't know again if it's more that the pressure is To develop but the tight end tight usage. The play calling doesn't seem to be meshing correctly is something that is a little surprising considering godsey history. Yeah i think. I was the one that say no she. He coming back earlier in the week could change things. He'd be that red zone target. I think always saw that shaheen was a couple of minutes blocks in things that are so again egg on my face. Jake this is pretty much. A doom and gloom podcast. So you know maybe we should talk about one of the few posits yesterday. And i know it's crazy to say because you know the bills scored thirty five points but anybody that watched that game saw the dolphins defense fighting tooth and nail to the end of this thing so I guess i just wanna get your overall thoughts on the defense i mean. What did you see that you liked. Maybe what you disliked against buffalo. Yeah josh i mean those first. Two drives were brutal. Do think are. They going to drop fifty six again. But you gotta tip that your cats the miami dolphins defense for how. Well these guys responded josh alad despite scoring thirty five points i mean. I don't think he really had too much fun out there. Outside of those first two drives. He only completed half of his passes. Seventeen for thirty three. So technically not half. But it is what it is exhibited howard continues to be abolished. Josh and overall. I mean they gave up thirty five points. This is a game that that's going to go down in the record books as thirty five. Nothing lost But i don't those last points in the last twenty one points. The dolphins gave up. I really can't blame the dolphins defense. That's that's tape you just throw away. I mean it is kind of what it is. And i mean i think the run defense again besides net huge you know i think devon single terry one on touch almost like fifty yard early in the game after that i mean they. Kind of buckled down. I mean they look solid. They were getting pressure on josh allen. Again it was kind of what we thought we needed them to do. But i mean josh allen darn good and the secondary can't latch down that long. Jake a pf ryan smith again. Guys take pro football focus. You know however you want. Some people love their stuff. Some people you know are very skeptical. But they had andhra van. Gingko has the highest rated defensive player with a ninety one point one zach ceelo right behind him as an eighty six point six exuding howard in eighty two point three giovane holland again had a nice game with the seventy seven point. Five an aircr of the seventy six. So you mentioned saving howard. Jake i mean to me it just against the guy that we were back and forth as a fan base. Should they trade him. Should they do this. This dude is a playmaker. He is all over the field and you know when you need him to to change the game and keep them alive. He did that. Andrew van gingko love to see him out there getting more pass rush reps. don't actually have the snack countless here. But i mean. I thought he was all over the field. Biggest concern was jalen phillips again. Only again eighteen snaps will throw egg on my face. But i think it's closer. Maybe time we put him on a milk. Carton opposed anything else but i think no egg monogamy probably lives on that milk. No oh my god. I bet that's starting to get to be a frustrating situation where you have a first round pick who's inactive the first two games of the second season. Obviously i mean you could say that. The dolphins have so much depth at cornerback that navy. we should have drafted more offensive. Lineman i don't know it's frustrating end to i don't i don't know i if i'm just someone who doesn't close the book quick enough but i'm not ready to completely shut the door Just quite yet jalen phillips. I thought he looked okay against the run. But you're right after i tweeted. That just didn't seem to be doing too much For the team josh. The dolphins did pressure josh allen. Twelve times despite only sacking him once put perspective. The dolphins gave up twenty four pressures. So yikes on that one last note i have about the defense that i actually changed my perspective on. I haven't been a big fan of the numbers switches. Obviously someone covers out of high school sports. I am used to seeing you know. Wide receivers be and all these kind of diverse numbers at the on the football field. I guess i should say but manage of odd holland and that number eight jersey helix awesome obvious successor surefire hanson adults into because that dude always seems to be around the football and he looks like he's Fits in on. The football field is a very very big body yet. You haven't down here for seventy seven percent of snaps. I think last week. He only played thirty. Two percents seeing uptick in that. I mean again. Every time he's on the field. I was point of the baby. Bali you know coming off a you know just casually walks up line perfectly time blades. Stop stopping zach backfield. I mean he's all over the field any reshad jones. We don't want it. Because i don't wanna compare especially someone was rookie but i mean that's like the body to getting the guy bone note the play in the backfield. I mean that's what that opens need. Yeah and i think the biggest difference airs. He's can come down and be that presence in against the wrong. But i mean the way he can go from silent. A silent switches hips. I mean this dude is going to be a stud and jake. I thought you were getting ready for the perfect segue again. Not the thing that you ride around the motorized scooter type thing but you know number eight. We were going to do a jersey giveaway. We don't have the specifics. But i don't know about you man. We were leaning towards jalen phillips. But when i saw two von walk down that icy number eight i mean i think we should giovane holland giveaway. What do you think. I think you're right on. That will have to figure out how we wanna do that. We'll have to get the oral matt later this week. Moral net later this week. Yes so just. I think that pretty much wraps up the dolphins performance. I do have to say i. it's an emotional game. It happens once a week. But i mean the doom and gloom for the weeks after the week afterwards. Starting monday i. It was one game early in the season. it was awful. Everyone's terrible nothing went right. Nobody did anything right but the Of that is odd saying that's not going to happen again. The odds do say that but then again we're dolphin fans of the last one said you know we're gonna we're gonna win a playoff game right. Dodge should say that at some point of.
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"giovane holland" Discussed on The Phinsider
"And one of the focuses. We really wanted to have on this. Podcast was the breakdown. The all twenty two but unfortunately no. I haven't got it yet. I got some sent to me. Didn't get a dive into as much as i wanted to. Nfl game pass still. Isn't working jake. Devan holland played absolutely out of this world. He was the highest graded rookie fry. Eighty two point five grade. The second is on team. We saw that force fumbling had on johnny smith. But for me. Jake you know yes. He's at upgrade. At least i thought over bobby mccain and coverage you know maybe not the the verbal communication or by thought. He had that better silent silent better in pass coverage but what he brings to. The run defense is just a mess. We saw johnny smith hit. We seem dropping down the box. And he's just doesn't seem like the games too big. He's not scared. Get skinny and make those hits which you know. I hate to bring up minkah fitzpatrick but that was something that a lot of fans didn't quite like or you know he was a little upset about so for me. Jake i excited to see which yvonne hall does it says you know. He was not targeted once on sixteen coverage snaps. I just want to see more. I wanna see more of him out there. I wanna see more the young brandon jones. I want to see what they can do. You know we're talking about the run game and stop and josh on wall. Can he do in that aspect nine again. The coverage i think he's already improving so tavon had a big week. I'm excited to see where he's going to move on from that. Josh emma bonino thinks it's like really crazy and i don't think it's necessarily incidence like we played a rookie safety against the new england patriots. His first game ever and he was not targeted. Once i mean. I feel like if you're trying to find something that just sounds completely off about this game. That's it and that's where i kinda go back to the patriots. Dur they were going to do precept. I mean most of the completions to nick needham. Xavien howard byron jones. I think the patriots were six of eight boeing apples guys but it was for like thirty five yards so i think it just really goes back to that game plan and it just i just have a hard time believing that giovane holland isn't a guy that the patriots would wanna try at least literally once and that didn't seem to be the case and again maybe that's just because they were trying to handcuff mack jones and didn't want to go out there and make some of those mistakes. I mean. i'm sitting in prison. John holum we talked about how he wasn't targeted but the buffalo bills brian to bowl net buffalo bills offense. They're going to try to attack the secondary because for as good as an existing howard is byron jones. Like you said a little bit of that. Those big plays came on some of those deeper passes against an error-prone some of those other guys so huge tests this week again. I think it's going to be complete night and day from what we saw last week but giovanni game one wasn't targeted like you said it's crazy from bill belichick coach team. And you see why. I mean i think the biggest aspect of beach thousand twenty one draft. The miami dolphins is. They took the first defensive end and they took the first safety. They had their letter. And those are the guys they chose so to see how it performed as well. I mean is a great You know encouraging sign this early in the season. Just one more thing. I want to talk about here in the defensive backfield That popped out to me. Was the fact that justin coleman play just to snaps after. It seemed like he was the guy who won the starting job. I don't wanna take anything against nikkan. take anything away from victim because i thought he was also but do you have a feeling that maybe this was game plan to where the patriots who use a lot of those two tight end sets hunter henry and johnny smith they might think need to simply works better as a slot when you have to cover those guys were just in. Coleman is going to be better suited you actually based on actual slot corner those a little bit guys to a little bit more wiggle to. That's a good question. Jake namino again. I wish i had the all twenty two sooner dive into that. But i mean how much of this is just a testament to how little you know. We should put into a brian floors. Depth chart just in coleman's up there. I'm thinking need nicknames. Listed nickel spot. But i mean again we saw what type of asset he wasn't a preseason. We saw it this past week. And so i don't really know jake. I think we all kind of thought. Justin coleman was going to have the inside track. They're probably going to see a lot more on this week with buffalo spreading the dolphins out trying to do those things but That's definitely something that sticks out especially when everyone wants to sit here and say jalen phillips sterling depth chart. This is a big deal. You look justin coleman. I mean that's per prime example. You're one hundred right now josh. We're going to do it. I don't know if you wanna do it can can we talk punter just a little bit. Can we talk about the butter. Yeah let's do it. I mean i don't want to. we can it just. Seems like specialties are just so used to that being such a sound unit for the dolphins and if there's any type of noise happening it's usually a good thing for the dolphins and i'm not gonna say Party played poorly and it certainly seemed like he kicked with a purpose. I mean that thing kind of was a rocket right off his foot. it didn't really get the height. You're looking for it just can't seem to be like lying. Drives your hip for contact. Hit four points with an average of forty five yards per which ranks twenty one at twenty three possible punters in net yards after week one. That's great. I wonder if the dolphins one position battle even a little more. Maybe we can get a little greedy. And say maybe the past score single touchdown or maybe one of those feels off the board. Maybe the dolphin start with better field position as a result of just kind of the movement from one end of the field to the other he had no pun so the twenty and just one touchback so just using it in that stood out in terms of party. It seemed like he does have that rocket. Line drive but Key these numbers. Were kinda bad or am. I kind overreacted. Here you're probably overreacting but it's nice to at least have someone shed light on it because what we continue to hear was upgraded the position. You know michael. Florida was lego tron. Almost you know. He has a tendency to to be one of the better punters in football. And i'd like you said. I don't know that we saw ranks. Twenty one out of twenty three so yes i think they have much better in a position battle and you know i joke but matt hawk you know. He plays for the bills this week. Is this a revenge game. He had a pump block last week against the steelers. You love to see that but I the dolphins are gonna know right away if they made a mistake because matt hawk you know he brought a little bit of a different element and what we saw from michael At least the quarterback position a little bit of a surprise. That i didn't talk about on. It's kind of an injustice. We didn't talk about and that's the fact. That in austin jackson was activated off the codeless of board the game last week but it was all liam i can burn. He didn't decent job considering. Its first gabe josh. Is that the way it's going to be as Berg are starting left. Tackle now or is awesome jackson being back as gonna separate back in and maintain that starting role again. I don't wanna put too much in depth chart but also jackson was listed there at left tackle. I know a lot of dolphin fan. Who really don't want to do this..
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"giovane holland" Discussed on The Phinsider
"This performance. I tool was sacked. Just twice on monday offensive. Line clearly still had some work to do. There was an illegal man downfield at a pretty nice screen pass. i think it was And then there was another hold on. I think it brought back brought back pretty big perception. I didn't really keep track of the penalties But overall josh you have to wonder where these guys to come back with healthy we heard about liam aiken berg dealing with his bumps and bruises so when austin jackson to come back is there somewhere he can fit in elsewhere on this offensive line or is it just kind of going to be him as the backup cliff tackle or i mean we're used to kinda see it you know so and so doesn't work here. We moved them but if the dolphins are paying playing the best offense environment. I don't i don't really know where he'd sit in know. The first thing came to mind was right. Tackle net would just be scared of shit. Ever 'cause you know. Because i mean to his already running for his life jake gotta give a shout to michael because i mean you see the tape going around you know. Ck paired some of these other guys are focusing in on some of this offensive line tapes. Michael de look pretty good yesterday. You know he was opening up some holes making some plays and do you know it wasn't one of those players that truly stood out for his bad performance. So that's a step in the right direction from what we've seen previously at the center position before we move onto the defensive. Jake i mean we gotta give a shout jalen while i talked about a little bit at the beginning but caught four six targets. Sixty one yards. He had fifteen point three yards per. Catch that one touchdown. Waddell sixty one. Receiving yards are third most for dolphins rookie in their debut and the most miami dolphins rookie wide receiver in their debut. So jalen waddell making plays yet that critical. Drop but i mean. I think what we're seeing is my fear. One jalen waddell was drafted. Can these dolphins use improperly. Can they use some of that. Pre snap motion and give the playmate of the football. The answer's yes jake. The answer's yes josh. You couldn't be more right waddell. Also the honors of being on the elevator. The elevator victory monday honors at hard rock stadium. Those things are always pretty to see josh. So we kinda talked a little bit here about the patriots being eleven for sixteen on third down it did feel a little hollow. You know you go back to the facts. They didn't score more than a single touchdown. So just you think. This defense would have performed better. If it had a little deaf with those run stoppers. I if they kept some like project begin mckinney around. Or do you kind of think that this is just the way. The dolphins are kind of going to play their hand each and every week. Jake i mean. I really can't say. Because we're looking at large mckinney right. Now he's still out there. Team really hasn't kicked the tires on but i mean for me as soon as they made that trade. That was what i saw was guy that thumper can really help. In the run. Game i think landon robertson's sam guava and kinda split reps there so i. I really don't know what the dolphins plan is here. But i mean. I think one of the biggest things. Cutting into the season was Could they stop the run. Could they improve in. You know after we won. I really don't know if that's the case. I don't know how much rape want. Davis injury no obviously affected that. I mean he's that stood in the middle there. That guy that's an anchor and you know makes life easier for everyone around him. So that injury looked brutal. Thank god he no. He looked like he was up on the silent looked like he was potentially ready to come back in the game. Hopefully floor shed some light on that but Jake i mean for guy sits here and you know really loved that mckinney. Trade went on a rant for a couple of weeks. The how this was a game changer. I'm going to say you know if they would have been that lineup. It would be better but You know that's just me being a homer. Yeah exactly it just kind of one of those interesting talking points you give low roundup judge something like that. It's important to keep in mind. I mean bill bell check. he's gonna know heaven kind of stop. The miami dolphins defense better than anyone right. I mean he knows what's happening on this offense. It's no secret you know. It's not like it was later managed right. It's a spiderman so the affecting though in there and again you cut off your pony tail and beat the master at bad days. What's important and josh. The dolphins do have another pretty big test coming up with the bills but do a quick little. Look at how that game went. Josh allen was pressure. Why pressured up the middle lab at celtic something. The dolphins like to do you mentioned the rape on davis injury at. We're recording this on monday. Josh report shows monday wednesday friday throughout the season so wednesday will get caught up on all injuries. I mean hell. The dolphins are a good one of those teams guys seem to appear injury all the time. They seemed up a lot of the time. Actually have one of the logger injury reports for for some reason But josh abbey overall very happy. Victory monday monday we at j. brisket doing some pretty big heavy lifting for the dolphins to overawed setting performance. I mean woke up yesterday with a smile on my face and that smile never left. Then you know that's carried all the way through victory monday yet jacob i mean how can we not talk about colby percent coming in those games looking like lusaka played or larry czanka. I know a lot of fans were upset about that. But i'd much rather have the cobra set in their. You know running right up the middle and getting all these all these helmets hitting him and you know instead of our quarterback to ton of low. I do want to throw out. Pf ryan smith has dolphins safety. Giovane holland was the highest greater rookie league. One an eighty two point five overall.
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"giovane holland" Discussed on The Phinsider
"The the giovane holland hit stick on. Johnny smith we all saw him. Do a somersault ball. Came out and then exergen howard. I mean jake. We sat here and we continue to say probably the best player on this entire team. And then you know with all the stuff that happened this off season to have him come out there when they were doing everything they could not get the near him. He went up there and made a play. I mean that was just awesome to see and That streak continues now for the miami dolphins. They are now twenty three consecutive games with a turnover. The last team failed to create a tournament was against the bills back on november seventeenth of two thousand nineteen. The team record is forty two so i hope i didn't accept but the key is miami. Dolphins success last season was turning getting takeaways. And you know trying to capitalize on that plane enough on offense to not turn the ball over. I think you saw that in this game and ultimately the got the win. And i think that's what so many people are forgetting is that the dolphins won this game. No matter how ugly it was no matter. How much yards to mack. Jones dickson dunks at the end of the day. The dolphins are now wanna know on top of the afc east and you gotta feel pretty damn good about it no matter how ugly it will just and that's such an important factor to keep in mind here. I forgot who is talking about. It might have been eric rowe. Who was saying that. You know their offensive playmakers. I think bows gasoline. Who are walking around the facility with football's all the time and the defensive guys are always trying to punch him out and so when we get frustrated about maybe a opposing running back and spinning forward and getting an extra two yards. He can carry us body a little boy or the dolphins give all these things don'ts every single one of these tackles. The dolphins are trying to strip the ball so while the dolphins are giving up these. You know the the band's. I hate using bend but don't break but that's truly what they're doing they're making you be so perfect because you had to not only catch the ball. You had to move up field. Gotta get past the chains. And then you've got to not let it get stripped and we saw the dolphins. I think i think the patriots fumbled four times. I think they recovered two of them. But i mean all those yards. Don't matter if it doesn't result points and the one drive that jones scored on. I mean there is that questionable roughing the passer called it. Really set them up. And then andrew wrinkled dissolve reception jacoby buyers. But i think josh be kind of look at how the dolphins are gonna win. The yards truly don't mean anything. It's all about that third down conversion rate. I think despite the dolphins actually led the patriots convert eleven of sixty nine third down again it resulted in just one touchdown because you know you can go sixty yards but if we pop the ball out after five attempts we are guaranteed to get it one out of every eight nine times might like ugly times but no the odds just kind of even out that way. It is so unpredictable. It's weird despite being unpredictable predictable. You're absolutely right you know. I hate that we're sitting here and we're going to spend some time on it but what was your thought on that play because that to me was just. I understand the rule and stand. You know you can't go low at a quarterback but let's be honest mack. Jones was twisting. You already conceded that sack. And what else was land roberts supposed to do. After he literally just went through a guy so i hated that the fact that it led to their only scoring drive of the day. i mean. no one's talking about that and it's crazy to me on. We're sitting here jake. And we are kind of all over the place so maybe we should just go back to square one. Just you know. Focus on the offense that maybe the defense. So i have written down here. Two hundred fifty nine total yards on offense. I believe seventy four that came on the ground miles gasco at nine carries for forty nine yards. So i beg on my face with him being my fantasy prediction. But i don't know how you fell jake. I mean to a win out there. Executes went sixteen at twenty seven two hundred two yards one touchdown one interception at interception was ugly. I don't know what he was trying to do there. He admitted he was trying to throw the ball out of bounds but It definitely didn't get there. You almost had another pick earlier in the game. But i mean again against the new england defense against bill belichick who we continue to hear. You know has not lost as many games against a rookie quarterback up until when against two time i lo- i mean i thought he went out there and you know did just enough. I guess to win this game yet. Josh one hundred percent rate. And i had to start with. I think arm strength and the assumption was the perfect example of people. Talk about when they're saying you know how much of arm strength is a quarterback. Because i think people don't really necessarily think went to a You know hits a huge bomb down the field whether it was deke. Grant that ball. That should have been a punch down to. Albert wilson accepted. Offensive bag made incredible play. People are gonna look at that and say to a heads on straight but when you see him on the run and he gets it. I mean that was trying to go to bounce josh. That was like five five yards away. And i'm not trying to bash. But that's just kind of it is what it is and to make that play a little more interesting josh. What the hell's going on. Make the second because he had to say on that ball twice. I mean i'm not saying he should have caught it but just the general. Where was he today. You know you're talking about devante. Parker here in ever down four receptions on seven targets for eighty one yards. I said on a previous podcast with all these speedy wide receivers. The unicorn of this group has devante parker you know. He fits that traditional motive the number one receiver when he's in that one on one coverage like we saw with jesse jackson know going up there. Making those randy moss type plays. And i am going to continue to say he mawson that. Because i don't know if you saw jakpa. Jesse jackson at the end of this game had a quote the said about that thirty our reception but abundant it was all me. He didn't really do nothing. It was all my fault. I gave him that so Jake i know you wear glasses. I two working eyeballs. But what the hell is talking about because like again. Dvd went up there. And you know snatched smash up all of the heavens like it was a white dove from the sky on that thirty our completion so Like the way devante. Parker went out there and play football jake yet josh and they really need to leon some sort of veteran. We don't really know what's happening like sticky. I don't think he was even targeted. I did i. did i see that right. He's on a let me check but he's definitely on amilcar after that game because he did not do anything and just those kind of the thing. That was interesting because when you think of opening weekend you really do want lean on those veterans. I think that's why the patriots lead david harrison much admitted on offensive line. So much so. I felt that was an interesting that he wasn't really at bald. Obviously already kinda pan. Jalen waddell there. But josh tell me what about the eichenberger i mean. No one really expected this. He comes in. He started up tackle and to me. This was looked kind of like the candidates situation when he was released by the patriots. You know he said that in you know i started the games. I started the preseason games and the reports came out thousands of starter up sharp during practice. It was it was. Jones was getting all the all the snaps. He said that he was getting. Maybe two reps with the first game compared to back jones getting eight or nine..
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"giovane holland" Discussed on The Phinsider
"Make some plays air so i think those guys are gonna have a big say this. I also believe giovane holland. I mean when you look at what he did in college. That was a huge part of his game. He played a ton of snaps at nickel but the way he wasn't that run game whether was getting off blocks but it was just putting a hit on the running back. Don't on those holes. I mean driven hollandse. An factor news run game. But we can't sit here and overlook what. Brian floors thinks about landon. Robertson osama guava. Because i sat here in. Praise bernard mckenna. I said how much i love. that movie. there's tweets all round saying how he was going to be the key to this. Dolphins run defense. I got egg on my face. It won't be the last time. I'll probably gonna face assumes wrap up this podcast but i think it just goes to say how much this coaching staff believes. Roberts believes in. Santa guava in and i mean we can talk about that. One play against the chargers right. Jake where was it Where elena roberts went in and just bulldoze through what two three guys in to attack literally guy. Another dude tackled with those a rei. Yeah i'm pretty sure it was. It was malcolm brown. Yep you met. His met his former team. My bad yet face see told you. Wow that is that is incredible. That is the foresight josh. Let me let me get your picks for this weekend so he can win a couple of bucks yet. Josh one hundred percent. Right year. Where i think that the fact that i don't i'm going to stick with this. I don't think miami's run. Defense is going to be good but when you look back to last season how strongest was against Third down situations in general. I think there were six in the league. In terms of third down defense third and short. You're running the ball. I think this team just kind of knows how to operate the knows. They know where to kind of stick with their weaknesses and where they could really be aggressive. Especially passing bounce josh. I can't believe it. It is a breaking news. Jake i got breaking news. I don't you do it ready for this. You're ready because twitter is going to be a hell hole today your captains for the two thousand twenty one season. A landon roberts. Jessie davis clayton fa- genitalium. I butcher dynamic eggo my face again. Mac collins and jason mccourty. Do you hear a name. That's missing office. List jake and is going to cause twitter to go. Ballistic byles gaskin. Heidi not the best professional on this team. On the i was gonna say john was going to say Starting received came grant blue. Yeah no we gotta make our own. Because i i think you are completely missing the point. Here I think jason sanders needs to be a captain. Yeah yeah there. There's some major issues with you. You know what. I'm getting away with your are going to go five and twelve now. It's not it's dolphins are not. It's not gonna look without seeing to that captain. Everyone's going to say here. I don't even this has got its twitter. Is you know how big of a deal this is gonna be when it's not a big deal on it just probably speaks testaments but some of those other guys have done. I mean atlanta roberts. Jason mccourty right there. Those are two brian floors. Guys know through thick and thin so Dolphins twitter man. It's it's going to be a channel so think of it this way. There's no second year buyers and i don't think there are any thirty plays. Is it user all veterans yet. These are all going to be a senior the old head senior. It's the rule. I call them without a doubt without a doubt. You're telling me mccourty isn't damn house. This is going to be his fourth beer. Jason macoris thirty four dude. Oh i'm older than him. I turn thirty. Damn all right i would. I would be a team captain on the dolphins that sake. I bit so yeah. You're gonna go back to the. i think. Just say that everything you need to be a senior or higher. Show us the lie. That's just funny though that i'm older than pretty much. Everyone on the dolphins as said so as josh falls apart over here. I think it'd be nice idea of touch about what we're gonna discussing the preview again. I thought it'd be good to friday specially because let's get into it off. The jackson added shaheen cope list. I think she could play jackson. I think started the air. Just another thing. I think we should really get into his. What bill belichick. And the patriots gonna take away from the miami dolphins cough conquer tight ends and then also josh to think this will be a good idea to get in because a lot of people are talking about this. George godsey studs bill. That's the conversation berry rejects actually. Had a good story on this but did brian for no. This was going to be the plan for the miami dolphins offense coordinator all throughout last year. Because you think of the fact that it's miles gasket That things sound a lot like they did last year. It's just different. So i have to kind of start to think to myself that you know we say so. Often like a new x amount of coordinators or four offense coordinators in four years. Whatever it may be. Is it timely. Kind of re adjust how we look at pessimistic when we can see situation like this where maybe brian or is new chan gailey. You're gone after year. These are my two guys. We're gonna have offense that just works together and it's gonna be built in the same language where it doesn't have that first year offensive coordinators because that's kind of what i'm hearing when i read all these stories..
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"giovane holland" Discussed on The Phinsider
"Been spiegel. Landed roberts adam paint. Gnc the carter up so just the best way to wrap up the show. I think is still what to expect. Moving forward we have a couple more weeks from regular season begins. We still have one more preseason game and we're under cincinnati. Three of the preseason and brian floors came out and said the guys who are on the bubble were close to being on the bubble. Those are the guys who are gonna play. Our next week just makes it sounded to me. Maybe it's as simple as the dolphins at bubble other wilson Devante parker preston williams. We heard he recently. Just got activated. Maybe a couple of these bigger guys are not going to say everyone. Because you know you'd expect isaiah ford to be outdated expect We've heard about their injuries. but in terms of their top. Guys i starting to think maybe once the preseason ends new had those two weeks before the regular season we might see that these guys are practicing bull in their bubble wrap did here we go to season or it could be all doom and gloom. And these guys are actually. I don't know but that's kind of a vibe. I get Seeing how there was no question that these guys are going to be out the last two games. I don't see him playing third. Yeah and i think you're the word to use their best bubble. I think they should bubble wrap these stars to it. Should be bubble. Wrap you know that offensive launched And some of these other guys at albert wilson's a guy who stands out to me. There's a player who had a huge summer. Everyone was raving about him. I think omar. Kelly said he's not worried about the injury so it makes you wonder if they're not just you know taking extra precaution with a wilson a fuller limb bowed and. I do think that's a little bit more severe. He almost sounds like he could end up on r to start the season which could open up a roster spot preston williams. I would've liked to see him out there but giovane holland brandon jay but giovane holland jake. That was the player that i really would have liked to see. Get out there. Because as i mentioned you know he was at him. Jaylen we wanna see more out of saw salt from wildwood nice von holland. Get pick their on a franks or was their starting at the beginning of the game. So jake i hope that it's just. I'm taking precaution. Because as we've seen throughout this training camp if injuries start to pile up that is going to be the dolphins achilles heel and you know how no shit at to say shots. That is why we make sure you get paid the big bucks for more joshes. Awesome fantastic Secondhand analysis showed a at twitter at ut z. That is actually found at twitter on twitter at twitter at j mendel ninety four josh. I think we're going to do two more shows this week as the dolphin. Prepare to wrap up the preseason if you would like to keep the with hit that subscribe button to actually getting quite a few reviews lately so wherever you. Listen your podcast. I tune spotify hit Hit that subscribe but it does help others find the show and if you have a couple of minutes leaving review Quite a bit too as an extra pep to our step josh. I mean this is about as verbal show. We do there. Were not a lot of issues that were not a lot of injuries. The dolphins seem to be in a really good spot right now open. They continue to get healthy but in all in all josh preseason week to has deemed a success it does i mean i think we kind of followed it up with a pretty damn good podcast equivalent to the way the dolphins played so hopefully guys we list to like jake said the best way to stay up today subscribe to the podcast leave us a rating. There's everything you would like us to change any comments. You have feel free to reach out to us on twitter again. I'm at house. That is at j mendel ninety. Four four finsider radio. The jake josh. Oh i am josh house. That's jake mendel. We'll talk to you later this week. Dot.
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"giovane holland" Discussed on The Phinsider
"The egg manic watson and that miami dolphins defense josh. You called him. The egg man and agnete is spelled with four. Jeeze that because santa guava against the falcons four sacks. Josh eleven tackles and aid safety in order to have a good old fashioned asked. What did you need guys has performances and a was that linebacker to really step up and have a huge day for the dolphins. On saturday yemen. Sam guava had a monster day he even said last time i had four sacks was in my dream last night what he joked after the game he missed practice on wednesday and thursday was activated. The restaurant friday and then played thirty eight snaps on saturday. You know brian floors kind of joke. He i guess he was out with kovic said that he was the reason he had such a big week in a big game was because he was fresh legs but i mean he was everywhere. I mean it almost on c. In the quarterback face in frank face the entire game and he was just making plays where was in the run game he i mean he was all over the field. Jake so it's funny. Because we sat down and talked about lennon. Roberts on the previous podcasts. We talked about. You know what we're going to see out of him now. He was activated. But sama guava man. I mean this was a guy that maybe was going. A little bit under the radar. Maybe some fans kind of forgot that he was still around. I saw people retweeting some of my tweets from the two thousand nineteen. Preseason where i compared him to can wake and at first i thought i was calling him a similar player then i remembered that he was from the cfl jake so again this is like this is like the little toaster. That could or the little engine. That could that up while he wanted to be a big toast during a big josh. Does yeah you don't upset. This is a real good feel good story. It's the underdog it's one of those airbud situations in guam. Go out there and play again. Like his hair was on. Fire was a sight to see. Give that man the mvp of preseason week too. I think it was paired mentioned on twitter. Someone on sorry. I can't remember who mentioned how the dolphins were using him as a pass rusher late two thousand nineteen you remember. They had taco charleston. They're trying to find anybody who get to the quarterback. I thought guava did a pretty good job. Most of you. Because i remember. How often did his motorcycle sack dance. I sat will not be on the describing. It really was but to see him back in that role. Josh beat the dolphins do need a pass rusher in Certainly fill that role. There's there's roster spots for than linebacker battle is really close that receiver battle in terms of talent competition. Speaking of josh. We saw our boy. Jalen phillips seizure hall of famer. He played in twenty seven stamps in his debut in the nfl song. Get in the backfield. Once i think rush of throw on the play he was solid against the run. But there's really none of those while exciting moments to really right home and and talk about his consistent solid healthy in reality. I guess that's really all you want. These gives it really is all you want. I hated shameless. Plug here but oh my to do. Have every rapidly so i think i use the tv broadcasts. That was kind of hard to get some had Crop out tom garfinkel. Big face for some of them. But i should have every rep from jalen phillips debut twenty-seven snaps like you said two total tackles. He wasn't a backfield a few times. I mean speed was there. You saw him setting the edge. Well like you said jake. I mean for a guy who's been hampered by injury. No kind of coming along slow. I action in preseason. I mean it's it's kind of what you expect it but You know it's cliches. Might sound he does look a little bit different than what we've come to see over the years and he does have that little bit of a different molten than what we've seen in the past. You have written down here jake rush. Well you saw him flashing the thing. I found most interesting when the dolphins were using a three or four they had eighty and jalen phillips coming off on the side when switched to a four three. It looked like a sealer wilkins butler and ogbeh. Obviously ron davis rotates in there at times but it's just awesome to see the versatility there and to me. It was fascinating to see a guy who is most known. I pass rushing. Abilities was not on the field on third down was not on the field for some of those key situations and it makes you wonder if maybe brian floors and the staff wants him to get better at some of those other things that he doesn't do quite as well before giving him a more expanded role but again. What you kind of. Expect it from a rookie. But that dolphins defensive lineman pretty. Well i guess the only issue again. This could be more of an argument of a second team in thirteen years in. But have the dolphins allowed one hundred. Eighty seven rushing. Yards to the falcons rushing gains still continues to be a little bit issue for the team again. Come week wind. All that could change when you're facing Offenses poised to run the ball. That's something you wanna keep on your radar. Aj mccarron for the falcons. He started obviously know matt ryan. I know calvin ridley. The delegates were without some big pieces. But hey you'd rather have your guide still step up and perform against whoever is on the field. Exhibit howard wasn't targeted that that's basically you pay him Pretty much up by jones together. I did wanna go after. He looks strong Arrest of gruber's after we saw a couple of videos of tweets Firing jokes getting Rose all weekend and things like that. It's great to see that you know. Even if you get caught up in the twenty four hour news cycle you do realize that. Hey the houses completely on fire just yet and you got to remember just because you see one rep. Getting beat doesn't mean you know it was all all the tapes bad and i think that's what a lot of us forget when you see these highlights before we go further. You gotta give shout. You have written down here. Exhibiting howard was the seventeenth ranked on the nfl. Top one hundred shelter exuding howard. I don't know that might be the highest dolphins players ever been. I'm not sure if Tunnels up there somewhere but Jake the secondary man. I mean crazy on leblanc. The corner from the philadelphia eagles at the dolphins signed us off season. He had a forced fumble point but to me it. Was nick a man again nick. Everyone keeps calling superstar. I don't know if that's his nickname. But i'm ready to call him a superstar for the rest of his existence bad. We can't do that. We got that okay. Is that why. They're calling him that. I i don't know that's probably but i mean do that. Pass break up on. What was it second goal to three nickname with an awesome pass break and then a fourth down that came back and byron jones had pass break up on was hated her so i saw the secondary doing what we expected. You know there. there's so much depth. There you mentioned saving. How're being out some of these other guys giovane holland in play there but they still went out there and they look like a dominant unit. And i guess that's kind of what becomes expect from. Brian floors coach team. There are thirteen players. Kept josh at its Keep in mind as the dolphin. Such make five more cuts by tuesday afternoon at four. Pm a record on monday. Thirteen players kept. We're albert. wilson will fuller lindau devante parker preston williams as for japan. How it brandon jones. Chavarria davis.
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"giovane holland" Discussed on The Phinsider
"Safety out of oregon. You know high draft. Pick a gun. The dolphins brought in here got rid of bobby mccain. How is he going to handle. You knew that game situation because what we've heard all these long you know throughout training camp. I mean we heard what three interceptions and four practices think he picked off any for pick six also. I won't justin feels reportedly. So i mean how devan holland gonna go out there. How's he going to get those. The rest of that secondary in place. And you know do some of those things that have veteran linked bobby mccain did and then you also have here brandon jones. I mean again. A young safety started four games last year against the patriots chargers denver and the patriots again played thirty eight percent of teams snaps. And you also have your jason mccourty is currently has started and i think you know a lot of that is because he is a veteran presence. He has got it understands. His defense can get those you know the corners and the rest of that defense align a little bit better than obviously a rookie but again if giovane holland do half the things that we continue to hear that. He's doing a camp. I mean that just seems like a homerun cy a homerun draft pick and you know when so many people wanted to running back. It was like so against the grain for the dolphins to go that route again. We're already hearing. That's paying dividends. All bite in practice yet just. I wanted to bear. Branded joins me by him. In different players the vet that jones started or played thirty eight percents snaps last season. Just kinda gave me the idea of. What can we expect from. How how'd you know have written down here. How long japan. How would be held out. We don't know how much is going to be eased in the system. We don't know of brantford. Simply just trust a veteran jason mccranie back there on the secondary so if he keeps making these blaze we know he's going to be out there quite a bit Is it only a matter of time. Before he takes over that starting gig or he becomes. Maybe that third safety does or do you think it's a situation where these according brandon jones are going to have have this role until holland you know. It's those thirty percents. Nassar's starts random game because of injury where he can really grabble of position. Where where do you see him. Really starting to make it impacts this here. Yeah that's the million dollar question. Probably one that. Only brian floors and josh boyer knows. I mean. if there's any you know defense that evolves around versatility no getting these different guys in situations. I mean that's prime floors defense. So i can't sit here and truly say i do think he's going to be that. Starting you know quote unquote free safety sooner or later but a mile down here and i brought it up before you know in two thousand nine hundred and played five hundred ninety one snaps at nickel corner in the slot. So you know. How much of that does brian. Flora's you know. Try to implement this year so a lot of different things. Yeah a lot of different things you can do there and i even joke you know. He's the anti mix. Patrick you know some of the knox against winker. I guess the whole reason. He's no longer here is because you know he didn't want to drop down the box. Go against a run and take on some of those blocks. I mean that's what you see. Which von hahn on tape so I do think this is going to be a guy that again no disrespect to bobby mccain. But i think which von holland bruce on tape. You know the range from silent silent. I think this is going to be that. Ball hawking free safety. And i'm pretty damn excited jake. I have no idea how this secondary is gonna shape out especially with those safeties. 'cause i mean we got mccourty got row. We got jones. You know and now we've got holland. I mean you name them. Even byron jones complacent safety right. It got got a great point there. Josh moving on it is the free season. The preseason to panic. That's what we're here for to get a little excited fantasy a sprinkle on some panicking and a little layer of doubt in how good your team's gonna be many really. Have the preseason. Bundle up for you. So josh i gotta ask win. Can we start panicking about the offensive line because you have leave. I can guilt with injuries. the dj fluker thing. I mean we've talked. We've talked about that to her balloon. The face That probably have been the miami dolphins two biggest injuries so far this season and everyone's kind of been under the impression that the dolphins are struggling a little bit. Brexit's the baker's but the bears have one of the better front sub into the league not necessarily trying to doubt that but when you look at their numbers last year they sacked opposing quarterbacks thirty times thirty five times Last year right in the middle of the pack leaks meanwhile khalil. Mack is one of the greatest edge rushers in the league outside linebacker. I mean the dolphins offensive line. Tomorrow night should be able to manage absolves right. There should be like the first team should be taken up field because offensive line gave up two false starts. And there's a fumbled snap as it. Right what is our standard for the offensive line when they play the bears. Yeah i mean. I really wish i could sit here and talk us off a ledge and say that everything's gonna be okay but i don't know that i can't jake. I mean you ask. When time to panic. I mean it is time to start feeling a little bit uneasy because again we mentioned is a lot of young players but nfl. You know it's one loss in the trenches and and this offensive line can't go out there and open up some of those holes can't protect to. It's going to be a long season. But i'm glad you brought up blankenburg because i think i alluded to it on the last podcast. No he was demoted. Is actually an injury. So now you have him yet believe. Jessie davis banged up. You know i heard some people say panky was taken reps or right tackle. I mean. I don't know what the dolphins had planned. In mind. You know when they obviously. Dj fluker obviously. They had to like jesse davis. If the worst case scenario. So i i do understand their plan but at the same time you know to think that you're gonna be able to go out there. And that is your best bet to protect. In your franchise quarterback that does make me feel a little bit uneasy and then you mentioned the center position. I mean that is up in arms. We brought him matt scurr. You know michael dealers taken over that role again. I don't know if that's good or bad. So i wanna see how they handle the defensive line for sure but I'm not going to say that you know i mean. I think you're trying to say that it shouldn't be as bad as you know it could be. But if we've learned anything in the past you know it's definitely going all inspire and it's gonna look you know doom and gloom and it's going to be all we're talking about is horrid offensive line day long for weeks. Can we named this episode. It shouldn't be as bad as it could be because that is sixty really is. It's our story of her life. That is incredible. Kind of the point. You know. I just don't wanna be setting year later tonight. I don't wanna be sitting here waiting till next week's game saying that. Well the offensive line. Excuse x. y. and z. I think that if the dolphins are showing concerns here week. One of the preseason. It doesn't mean they won't fix it. It doesn't mean they didn't have a plan in place Plan doesn't work in those. Are the doubt start tab and just these two are linked here so switching over. Can we see any big plays from the running back group and this one. I found myself into a little whole job so you may get a little mad with me. The listeners might get a little bit of me year. Specifically we we know of miles. Gas in canada brings to the table each week. And you know having been fantasy. Add just see those stats. We know the numbers you're gonna get every week. It's somewhere around. Like eight carries for forty three yards and the fiber such as for for sixty seven yard touchdown. And that's great that's exactly what the delta z. For miles gas. They need that consistency. Need those yards. They can take. He can really get the outside. I don't think that even if the dolphins whatever their plan is at offensive line works out..
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"giovane holland" Discussed on The Phinsider
"To move you forward josh. I gotta be honest. I'd like to hear about any of mine is offensive line. Really walking down the position. Now i'm not saying you know off the decks is gonna little tackle job. I guess we see a little bit from travis wink but we have not heard a lot of you know stellar feedback on this offensive line since training camp began. You know we could say that. The dolphins defense is pretty damn good and that's true but you know we are hoping to hear some sort of growth from from all these guys. I mean the reason. He defended this group so hired a lot of people dead against being kind of their young. You know the year to growth is going to be But i don't think we've really heard that phrase about austin jackson and then when you look at the situation with i-compared josh. She started last eat practices berry jackson for track ati practices he started at left guard. He started the preseason or training camp go subjects in those up a break tackle. So there's also the idea. Maybe they're just flipping guys in announced she however really works together. Ci different situations unfold. Whether you know right tackle goes down. Maybe kidney goes down at left guard but today it did seem like a negative tone. Maybe that little cloud over it. That bird was a demotion So kinley josh. I get the idea with this group and it could be trying to spins on the situation of course but it seems like an offensive line. That's built with kinley hunt. Jackson is a group that might perform a lot. Better defending pass rush. They would a running back. And i think that's where we see the dolphins vision going towards set of drafting that top tier running back. You can kinda get by with miles. Guests can make the most out of a tough situation and then catch a couple balls mexico too. And i think again you just wanna see one of these young players truly grasp that you know whether it's the starting guard spot whether it's right tackle whatever it is us want to see one of those guys you know own that and become that. I mean robert haunts. Probably the closest example. We have right on. This offense may besides all subjects shout out to him that it was his birthday. But i mean. I think that transitions perfectly into this. The offense and again. I had somebody tweeting me throughout the day. Kind of gave me a little bit of hints here and there as to how to it was looking how some of these other guys heard. The jalen had a huge catch. Sixty plus yards also heard that came grant had a pretty big game back to back so it sounded like it was more of the same from talking about lowest sound like he was accurate decisive in his decision making but again. How much of that was just you know early. On in an scrimmage because yes he's teams are going head to head but you know there were plenty of restrictions in place for these different teams to protect themselves from injury and some of these other things so again. I heard you know maybe some of these plays we've taken back from a sack year there. Whatever it might be but overall it sound like tucson below was out there delivering. And i mean. That's really all you'd want to expect against again. A very good secondary. Yeah i think the key is the fact. He's looking comfortable josh. I think that's whatever. He'll beat writers really repeating themselves over and over. I mean with ryan tannehill. I guarantee their stories. We could dig up about hypnotic uncomfortable in training camp as leader. He's a decision. He didn't even know the divisions. Exactly exactly so so you kinda get where we're coming from. And the fact he looks comfortable. I do think it started off where he was sacked. Any fumbled on the play. I thought i read that summer. But it doesn't make sense. It's not sacking the quarterback. But i did pick up for him And then you mentioned it while has a strong performance. I'm really started interested about this receiving battle josh. Because we're not hearing a bunch of devante parker. I think he makes the team either way up. But when you keep hearing names instead keen grant popping up. I mean alan hearns popped up today even though that by the bit because he was trying to start a fight or than making plays but where does the direction of this receiving core going. I mean robert foster at one candidate catch today. Yeah jacob heard about the robert foster one-handed grabbed jacoby percent huge gain there and another thing i j. I don't know if you saw chicago. Bears beat writer. Said that mac collins was eight and i quote problem you know. He's listed two things. He listened to takeaways from this camp and from this practice and the first one was about. You know the defense offense line. Whatever is the second one was that mac collins was a problem he was out there dunking on the chicago bears. So just to your point jake. You know we sat here and we kept saying how much differ this receiving core. Look to as obviously going out there. I think they listed off. We was starting to it was literally the two thousand twenty receiving corpse with jalen. Wadden he's going out there picking up the ghost oppressed and waves quote unquote. Picking apart. You know one of the better secondaries. It's always funny to hear that matt collins again a guy who couldn't stick with the philadelphia eagles. A lot of us thought was nothing more than a special teams gunner. You know one of those aces. We keep seeing videos of making plays. I mean the chicago bears a beat writer now quote unquote. I'm sorry i don't have his name but just to hear that mac collins is a problem at camp. That's huge man. That's mega zoro. Type stuff max. Big moments hollins if he makes the roster. I wouldn't be surprised. Justice is the guy that they signed to extension this off season. I as i've said can't begin. I put my money on the guys they signed this year. The guy's they signed early in infrequency. Josh we've talked about to a let's flip it over one time and on the defense exhibiting howard's back on the field. Apparently he's looking great out there. He added interception taken back due to a penalty. Womp on but that's by practice you get those executives system. How great is it to note that the best quarterback in the afc east one of the best quarterbacks in the entire national football league is back out there at student what he does catching goes interceptions. Ed giving the reporters basically something to tweet about. Every single breaks yet. I mean you gotta love to see it. And i jake. Did you see the video of him. Going around social media were. He actually owns like an icy shop. Have have you seen that because it is. It is absolutely amazing. Apparently side hustle is that he legit owns an icy shop. I don't think it's in south florida. Whatever it is. I mean you just see so much of exurban howard's personality gu's now this video so definitely check that out if you haven't already but i mean it's just a little bit of a relief right. I mean we sat here. We wonder what i say a little bit of relief. It's usually. it's a huge relief. I mean the guy you're all pro. Shutdown cornerback out there. I mean that's one position you know that just completely changes the dynamic that defense. We said what it would do if he wasn't a lineup. I mean just know these out. They're going out there making interceptions doing what he's done. Yes it sucks. It wasn't against allen robinson. But you know he's still going out there making plays and you just. It's what you're hearing about this defense. I mean a lot of skeptics out there continue say no. The dolphins defense got to take a step back this year they had. This may turn overs day. They had all these things down the right way. Most of that is true. But you know exerting howard is going to go out there and he's going to get his. We hear giovane holland. I think like you said what was it. Four and five practices or something. I mean this guy is all over the place and again without exerting howard not lineup this secondary look mighty different so for me jake. Go check out that icy video. I but i mean to have your legit your best player on the roster back out there..
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"giovane holland" Discussed on The Phinsider
"The best quarterback in football is going to be on the roster so here we go Liam aiken burge joshua lee final guy to sign the team. All the rookies are under contract as teams undersung report. I have to say he was eating listed on the team's website yesterday So josh i mean where do you see can really complete competing for the dolphins. This year is going to be locked into that right. Tackle spy after the dolphins traded up eight spots to get him in the second round or consoling. Dj fluker really pushed for the position. Enforce i can to kind of duke it out for right guard position or even just with just davis there is as those backup blind because it does seem this year that the miami dolphins good to have a lot of depth on that offensive. Line something. we're not used to. yeah and some. We're not going to complain about. But i think you kind of touched where he's going to fit in. I think he might eventually become that right tackle. i think he's going to be the starter there knowing. The season begins but You know this is a battle. Everyone's going to have an equal opportunity to win that job. You know it's gonna be every we keep your versatility you know all these offense alarming can play all over the offensive line. So how it fits. I don't know. But i think i can put right now. Has the inside. Track right tackle. I think since last time we talked jake giovane holland and hunter long also signed their rookie deal so Good on the dolphins forgetting them altogether getting them in the building. Because you know today's the first day of school you know you're getting your no pets getting used to your school major classmates things like that tomorrow. You know they'll go out there and do some of that work on the field and to have all these guys. All these rookies under contract. That's a good thing and like you mentioned it's never bad. Have too much on the offensive line. And try to figure out where i can bergh's gonna play and if davis is going to start you know whereas kinley going to go. I mean it's a good situation to be in if you're the dolphins there's a lot of talent in the trenches so now i mean you kind of hit on with howard. The big key is with him with any player is to get the most games as possible. also very physical sports. So there's no promises that any of these guys are gonna play sixteen games so now josh the goal for the preseason the goal training camp above anything else is to stay healthy. So we're gonna take a quick break out on the other side. We're going to talk about a dolphins wide receiver who is starting training camp on the physically unable to perform list so stay tuned for that. We will catch.
Vegas Nation - Raiders Football
"giovane holland" Discussed on Vegas Nation - Raiders Football
"Critical piece of these defense. Here's mike mayock. I thought jeff heath did a good job last year. Jeff spin lake several years We're always looking for competition. I think the free safety position in the draft this year I think there's some good players through the first three or four rounds. And then after that i think he got a target. Some guys that might be corners might be nichols. Be a little bit creative. But we've grinded this whole defensive back class pretty hard just like every other positions quickly ended. Then he likes jeff he i don't know i'm all on board on how well jeff he played last year that he thinks he game. But do you believe the free safeties in the room or do you believe They've gotta get one whether it's in the second or third rounder or someone that might make leave some come in and least compete right away from that spot. You know if you if you had a defense that was really good or even pretty good and you tell me that. Hey we've got some really good pieces on the defense we like where we are and we're going to plug in jeopardy or collar joseph to that free safety spot. I would say see that. I think that works. I think both those guys are veterans. That have been around They've been able to play safety at a fairly high level. Nothing world-beating but they're good enough. But that's not the defense that you have. You have a defense. That has a lot of question marks a lot of holes. It really really struggled and needs to get a lot better in your account on that on that free to a playmaker at a difference maker. Cheer that's not what those guys are. They're serviceable pieces. Not the guys you rely on that. You really need to have a really good player at though spots so i if that makes any sense i think that's that's the difference for where they are Is that. They need a difference maker. They don't need a guy. And i think jefferson college oxford. His guys that are capable of playing in capable of starting but not necessarily Big game changers for this defense. So yeah. Call joseph as much as i think he can't play free safety and this defense and would be capable of it. I actually think he's more of a A piece that works with jonathan. Abram tries to help become better and then fills in more that bach safety and plays alongside him or plays you know behind him or with him or in place of him at times. Jeff he probably more the backup free safety and they try to bring in somebody I would think through the draft but also you know you have that possibility In it was free agents. In like i just said there's going to be guys that are released guys available at some point. I still think trayvon marrying a possibility. in that first round The tcu safety if all top. Three elite offensive tackles are gone You know in seoul slater and dera saw. Maybe think it's a fresh take tackles either allies vera. Tucker it's ever jenkins. I think both those are pretty good. kevin jenkins particularly the run. Game could be great But if you think it's too high to take them there's not value there Than bearing the guy and you plug about safety and then find a tackle in the second round but even if do take tack on the first round or any other position and you're still looking for safety like there are guys. Elijah moulton i think is a pretty good safety out of washington claim. The spot I also Really kind of like giovane holland. I think he could be. Potentially that kinda guy that you want there But term america's the guy. I would look for in the first round. Potentially i think he was the guy. In fact i know i wrote it. He's the guy in our our last mock draft. That was going to the raiders. I think it makes some sense to bring him in But you also just never know. Maybe don't traffic. Maybe they distract best available player and they they have a lot of a lot of holes to fill maybe they are rebuilding this year looking toward next year as the that they're trying to compete and You know maybe just take the best available player. Take a towel of guys that are filling one of the two really glaring needs. Well we know you'll be all over. Follow all of atoms. Mock grass leading up to the draft. All our dropped actually the regional dot com everyday. Starting sunday in the paper will have draft analysis and stories columns all the way leading up to the raiders. Picking seventeen in the first round of the draft. That's gonna do for our latest edition of sports. My comments other vegas nation. This podcast is brought to you about las vegas review journal and presented by blue. I remember now. There are new episodes of vegas nation. Every monday wednesday friday. Subscribe to vegas station on apple podcasts. Spotify or any podcasting. 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