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76 - Shazam, Part 6

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76 - Shazam, Part 6

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Seventy six of table reads, and what I am certain is going to be the finale of Bill Goldman's shoes. AM. I am here as always with Joshua Baker say, hi, Josh. Hi, guys, and Kelly Le VA. She doesn't need to say, hi. You know, me she doesn't like you. And she doesn't want to talk to you and yet here I am. Are you are always playing the characters that don't get any lines? You don't have to talk breathing into this. Microphone for aesthetic. Yeah. Yeah. Because, you know this script really lends itself to just sort of. In the background of the whole time. Late that kid from recess. Kid to, like, we'll talk to you and just swallows in the middle of a word. You know, guys, we should go to the ground, and you know, that kid, you know what I mean mouth noise. It's not my favorite. Known as any noise, any speaking. Due to edit, some edit some voice over stuff, and you don't realize voiceover is not acting. It's just editing. Mouth noise. Horrible. Should have brought an apple. Oh you guys I can't even tell you. Going back in, like actually producing the episodes I did with Trevor in the background all the time. Horrible snort noises. It's the worst the fact you just said the word, snort noise. I think that. Welcome guys. Welcome table table, right news. Look, I'll tell Trevor this to his Trevor you're listening, right? He's, he's. There is no way. But I will call him and say you're snorting always terrible. You, you sound like a word hog snorting another word hog like cocaine. And on that note that's a sentence. That's never been sent like spoken before previously on table. Real. So, of course, Billy Batson became Suzanne and struggled to learn how to use his new powers for anything other than cheating, blah, blah, blah, all the same superhero stuff, but after facing off against and badly defeating, Dr Savannah's son magnificence Silvana figures out the origins of captain marvel including his secret. Identity is eleven year old Billy Batson. He even figures out that Billy is in love with Jenny all of this takes about twelve seconds, which is twice as long as it takes savant to adopt Jenny while in disguise and chloroform. And apparently scoop out all of her memories for ever. Until you die fade in. Cut to middle of the night. Silvana comes up from the basement into the kitchen stops beauty awaits for him a small suitcase packed, and ready. Beauty now. Sorry to open my script. I wanna talk to you does. Anyway. I was like shit. This is going to be the one time I have a line. You're an expert at computers. I love I love technology. This is as far as I go. I can't take your contempt anymore. You'll come crawling back to me. Shake of the head. I've been calling to you all my life. No more, they stare at each other. No love lost here. Except she loves him more than anything. Yeah. No, not more than captain marvel now. Well, he loves as true love. That's right. She saw that bulge and was like, and he loves bugs. But not love bugs. Die. Because like anybody, they are the worst. Cut to the orphanage morning billion Mr. gates, walk along a corridor, Mr. gates seems upset. It's worrisome. Now. He liars, Irish always all these auto sheets worrisome. He he had no way way higher up says it isn't he definitely was Irish. No. You said faith in Bogota. That's not that's yeah. Yeah. Right. But going, it's watering sum. What did you think it was? I don't know polling I don't know. I don't know. What do I look like a voice actor? It's worth some building gestures for him to go on every one of our children is supposed to call when they reach their new home either. When they arrive, it's very late. Or if it's or if it's very late to pick this up. Carey descript or if it's very late the next morning shakes his head. I'm sure there's a good explanation the excitement of a new home and all, but it's not like our Jenny cut to. Billy doesn't say a word just breaks into a run cut to Syvana staring out a window of the laboratory looking up at the sky peekaboo. See you hate this. Goddamn cut too. He sees captain, marvel is flying MIR Savannah's house. Okay. Hold on. I just I wanna run through Savannah's plan. So he got he goes through the arduous and rigorous process of disguising himself as a middle aged man, but takes months and of McDonald's being a child with his daughter, so that he can scoop better memories, so that she will not call back to the orphanage, so that captain marvel will know she's in trouble and then come into his trap instead of just locking her in a room or he could kidnap her Jenny's missing. Right here comes captain marvel. But then that'd be a legal. Right. Remember earlier, he said, this won't be a legal. That's right. He had all the lawyers papers. Let's hide up and he was like, now all of this is perfectly legal. I have papers along as you're consenting adults. There's none of that in this. I just. Guys. He wrote the Princess bride. I I'm starting to doubt that Sean. Yeah. I am too. I really I mean, this is this is amazing, spider man two level plot holes. And I can't think of a worse superhero. Movie, then amazing spider man two. Yeah. Who even manned vs superman pootie Tang at is how the superhero movie. But if it were it would be the greatest one now. I'm trying to think now. You have jeopardy music you could do. I really didn't. I mean, we this, this will sidetrack the whole thing we do have to finish the script tonight. Oh, we got up. I'm not gonna tell you for one was probably a worst movie. You shouldn't you definitely should. I'm not you got more wrinkles than his forehead that I'm seeing the entire time we've been doing this his like. I think I have a nose bleed. Cut to the tire tracks leading straight up to the place cut to captain marvel rocketing inside ready for anything cut to savannah as he looks totally stunned as captain, marvel suddenly fills, the doorway to the laboratory war, is she that was terrible. Cut to captain marvel close up. Grabs Savona by the throat understand something I want to hurt, you cut to savannah panicked basement as he points to the floor cut to the basement of Savannah's house as Savante leads captain marvel down the stairs. Silvana stops captain marvel looks around where savannah goes to a corner points, cut to a small dock tunnel leading some place, as tunnels do a child could fit probably an ordinary sized grownup could squeeze through cut to captain marvel he looks at the tunnel a moment. No way. I can make that. You've got Jenny and there. Silvana nods. After you. Okay. So the plan is, he has to seychas am turn back into Billy Batson the crawl through the whole, right? Here's how it should go you expect me to say my word climbed to the whole is as prone little kid. Right. And then he just punches the hole bigger rip Savannah's head off. And then calls the police who bring a tiny police midget who goes into the tunnel. They have on retainer. They replaced the midgets with robots. What that's dot better. You know how they used to have the bomb. Defusing midgets. Will they got those little fingers, so they can get in there? The inside the droid. Yeah. Kelly is displeased too. I'm not I'm she's on board. I'm on police midgets. Where I'm at. But why that she means literally, she's? Starting a script police midget by Kelly Levy a Commissioner, Sean. Josh? Cut to savannah getting down on all fours. Starting to crawl into the tunnel. Captain, marvel says Zam and as Billy easily fits into the tunnel crawls quickly and cut to he really doesn't have the wisdom of Solomon, yet, now cut to a room at the end of the tunnel as savannah, crawls in Jenny's. They're all right. But so is a club. Savannah's placed pie be entered a club. He's just gonna club a child. Clunk dead like a seal. A mediocre seal. See average seal. Yes. Absolutely. Just the average seal. You ever saw. Savante grabs it and the instant Billy's head is visible. He hits Billy hard. There was an audible sound and quickly cut to savannah smiling sitting by the tunnel entrance. I would love if he just like kept hitting him until you just heard like, mooching wet, mushy, smacked, not even any crunch left in just every time he raises the club more and more gorse ladders on the wall behind him. Tarintino. Meanwhile, Jenny doesn't care total vegetable just sitting there the whole time. Yeah, I, I want this movie to get that dark. And then like the end. Pullback to reveal Jenny unconscious barely breathing in a corner. And Billy groggy, still sitting beside her his arms have been tied with ropes around his back. And layers of thick tape have been placed across his mouth. He cannot talk to Billy slowly realizing the situation cut to savannah, watching as the reality hits home. Huge smile. Then he pulls a thick metal covering down over the tunnel. Opening cut to Billy watching now comes a sound from the tunnel of a thick luck being turned trapped and tied and beaten Billy closes his eyes, but only for a moment. He takes a breath looks around the room cut to the room Jenny lies motionless could be so Kelly has two characters both. I'm conscious one one just left. She just packed her bags and was like I'm leaving the script. Can you blame her? No, I mean. Oh, and the other one is essentially comatose, if I brought somebody back to life, I need a little bit of appreciation. Right. And just like Stephen demanding. I suppose you're gonna want me to be appreciative for you coming over here in spending, your time on my podcast. God, what he knows. She knows better. Mcflurry. It'd be nice. Yeah. Yeah. Sean, you did not warn us. This was V. Y. O. M B bring your own mcflurry. And yet, somehow, I did look I just was sick of never being offered. One. I do have a small McDonald's in the basement. I don't know why never thought to go down there. Lori. Dank mcdonald's. That you ever saw it's always deep link, whatever you ever saw cut to make flurry machine. Trafton tied and beaten Billy closes his eyes. Oh, I already did that sorry. Could be dead beyond her nothing of interest, just the floor, not the cleanest and the ceiling is low what you could stand. If there was some reason to fight your way to your feet, and maybe that's a piece of glass in the other corner and cut to Billy. Whoa. He stares cannot believe his luck yet. Neither can I cut to the distant corner. And yes, it is a piece of glass in that corner, tiny and jagged. And you can't tell from this distance, but it also looks sharp. I hope he, like, just jams it into his mouth, so that he can yell Zam through his leading wooo. Massa rated lips. Cut to Billy. And suddenly, there is energy flowing through him and it's hard, but he makes it to his knees then over to his feet and Steph by small step egos toward, what could be is salvation. Cut to the piece of glass, and close up. It's still tiny but it is really sharp. I hope it's a piece of ice that savannah, just put their to fuck with him. Cut to Billy going to his knees. And if you think this is easy. Try it sometime because his hands are roped behind his back, and he has to somehow force them to get down to the sharp piece of glass. You need to tell us that it's difficult by explain you should try this sometime this easy. How does that have on screen while the viewer is going knowledge as he does Bill Goldman pop up like a silent interpreter in a little bubble at the bottom of this is easy? Try it. I think it's the only possible explanation. Cut to the glass as Billy's fingers come close, try to grip it try to pick it up. No good cut to Billy perspiring now. Right. Ri- again. Putting me to sleep sorry, cut to Billy's hands so close to the piece of glass, but close only counts in horseshoes. No good again. Okay. So can we just review that in the entire like figuring out that captain marvel is the replacement for the wizard? The captain marvel must be a child finding out who that child is, and then adopting that child's love interest all took less time than it's taking him to pick up this piece of glass. It's slippery piece of cloth, super slippery, and it might be sharp. I don't know yet. It's hard to tell from this is hard to tell. I mean you try it sometime. Billy and the effort is tremendous, and he's breathing heavily no question. He glances across the black hole cut to Jenny motionless is cut to Billy and the site of her like that enrages him. And once again, he sends his hands on their mission, and yes, his fingers grip, the glass, and then twisting his body. He begins to put pressure on the ropes that bind him cut to the ropes thick sure and tied into many knots. Yes. But so what that's not going to stop him. And cut to hate the way he writes Billy and for the first time since he came to there is hope behind his eyes cut to the ropes. And the glass could be a razor and cut to is giving alternate ideas to the prop master. Cut to Billy giving it all he has. Because he sends his now that the ropes are starting to give and cut to Billy's fingers cramping, and he has to rest, but only for a moment as, again, they go against the rope faster and faster and cut to Billy and the ropes can't last much longer and cut to the ropes beginning to tear away from his skin. And to Billy as he rips his hands free and the instant they are he rips the tape from his mouth, and the instant the tapes, or gone. He shouts it out. Sure. Dead. Wow. No cloud. Not this time. Mature. Shes emulating. For sure. Holy moly. No cloud. This time no lightning, no thunder despite Sean bean, and asshole. Billy is more shocked than he has ever been no sound came from his throat. Oh, is that why? Says he shouts it out at does. He tries it again, and you can see the cords stand out in his neck. Speaking of pootie Tang. Still the silence. Now the dry sound of clapping. And the voice of savannah. Good work. Billy, Billy world's stares at the ceiling cut to a tiny slit, in the ceiling, Savannah's eyes are visible. Did you like the piece of glass? I thought it was a lovely touch. And yes, I took away your voice while you were unconscious is he a which witch? He kinda reminds me of hersal a little bit. Like I've got to take. I can do this. Cut to Billy as he realizes. The whole thing has been a trick that he is more than ever at Savannah's mercy. You know what that reminds me? That's what would happen if. It's like a this podcast, we would bring Kellyanne, like I got a little mermaid script. This is gonna be great. And then it would turn out that she loses her voice for seventy five percent of the movie. Yeah. Inevitably seventy five percents, generous. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. It's a little known fact I did the voice of Ario for all her land scenes. But. To look. I'm Kelly's face just shamed me more than. Ever. He's pretty disgusted hor. Rest. Now, I'm off have to destroy eighty thousand people at Giants Stadium. Where did that come from feel sorry they all billionaires? Don't feel sorry for them. They're all mouth breeders. Go ahead. I agree. Oh, don't feel sorry for them. They're all melt breeders football fans. You understand. It's just an hour away. So that gives me that gives you time to think about this. When I return things will get much worse. The tiny slit, closes cut to Jenny lying as before. Lying women all the time now. Here comes Billy all energy, gone, helpless. He lies alongside her closes his eyes. Hold on the motionless figures cut to the wizard watching them on the history in despair cut to outside Giants Stadium a crucial game in progress. The sound you hear is the screaming of eighty thousand crammed in and happy to be there. Nut fans. The fans of nuts. I love nuts cut to a hot dog with mustard in mid air. Looks a little unusual, but pretty tasty pullback to reveal the hot dog is held out by a vendor. The vendor is standing like a statue savannah takes the hotdog moves past. Thank you. My good man. Takes a bite pitches. It next life. Let me suggest. Next life. Let me suggest a bit more spice as he moves on cut to a souvenir stand. The two guys that work at our statues now savannah, takes a couple of giants flags and a giant, t shirt moves along cut to an entrance. The ticket taker is a statue as savannah moves into the stadium itself. Behind him. A bunch of other ticket takers rushed to the guy we just saw the other ticket takers try and shake him. Get him to react. No luck. The noise of the crowd is louder from here, cut to savannah, moving along ramp. He is higher now, cut to another ramp as savannah moves ever upwards, he seems absolutely on top of the world. Cut to a long high hallway at the top of the stadium at the end is a door with these words control room a giant stadium guard stands by the door. Cut to Savona walking up to the guard. Guard. Sorry, only authorized personnel spoilsport is, is fleeing cut to the Giants Stadium guard. She reaches out towards savannah and freezes like that Savante moves her aside enters the control room locks it fixing your script Goldman. Yeah. Sexist script only a man can be guard. Let's, let's add some more. The control room, not all that big or is complicated. And most we've seen. Nothing like a TV station this room, controls, the jumbotrons the giant screens. The flash pictures and information to the fans. One more thing that I have to say about Goldman here. He made us live through every moment of an entire baseball game. And then he's like football fans are mouth. Breeders. It's true. I think this guy has an agenda. Most people have an agenda. Mine is to eat this payday as quickly as possible, and as noisily as possible. Mouth breather. Just a camera. Some Mike's a small window overlooking the stadium and a technician, along with the control room boss. The technician looks up. See savannah starts to speak, but Savannah's is Flaine the technician freezes cut to the control room boss looking stunned at the technician, then he stares at savannah. Big mistake Savan is, is flame, and the boss is just another statue despite his flame doing a completely different thing earlier. Cut to savannah humming happily setting to work as we cut to the stadium. We've all seen it or one just like it. The only thing to note here is that high in each end zone visible to all is this two gigantic jumbotrons, and suddenly, there savannah is in gigantic close up, and he is smiling and selling all enthusiasm. Now it's like he's turned into the king of the infomercial. And to you giants fans I'm Thaddeus Bogues, Ivana, the NFL is new nation new national sales director, and I'm here to make you happy cut to the stadium. The giants are marching down the field. And no one pays the least attention cut, too. Syvana so excited and bouncy and how I can hear you asking yourself. Am I going to do that cut to the stands, still no one pays attention? The giants through a long pass, and everyone is screaming cut to the control room is savannah. Wheels a camera into a different position cut to savannah. He is in bigger close up. Now, let me just whisper to. Words, cheap tickets cut to the stands as several things happen. At once the pass is intercepted the crowd groans. Timeout is called. And now a few people are starting to watch the two jumbotrons cut to Syvana. The man is a master salesman. Did I say cheap? Yes, yes, the cheapest seats in giants history to the stands, and now a lot of people are starting to pay attention and cut to under the stands and all the food stations. The jumbotrons are visible there, too. And people are turning to each other asking did he say cheap seats cut to savannah, so excited? It's hard to contain himself. This is a one time offer a minute. A phone number is going to flash. On the jumbotrons, if you call that number by midnight, you can buy next year seats at an amazing a simply incredible discount. Do I have your attention to the stands? Oh boy, does he cut to under the stands as people rush away from the lines race back into the stadium cut. To savannah on a note of triumph. I can hear you asking that is Bo. Dog savannah. What do you mean by incredible? Do I mean, half, what you paid this year to the stands MoMA God, half price cut to savannah, building climax? No. Half is nothing one tenth of what you paid this year. That's all you have to pay. But remember this, you must remember this number cut to the control room as he moves the camera even closer and cut to the stands, not a sound. Everyone is staring at the giant jumbotrons cut to the jumbotrons and suddenly and huge close up Savannah's face appears and his gigantic is flame, cut to the stands and all the people are staring at his eyes and cut to Savan the close up is overpowering, now his is is flaming is fill the screen cut to the stands. No one moves now. Eighty thousand vegetables is what we are looking at hold. Cut to. Return of is brief word from our sponsors. What's up docs, ducats? Trevor thompson. The self-appointed looney tunes critic here. And if you like old cartoons and watching online reviewers dissect them, then you probably have the same thing. 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Stop watching the football game. I have a discount could you just record it like could you would it work? If it was recorded that's another good question, if his power works anything like Lucious from Kogi us, I would assume, yes, she just say real words. Clearly, not none of you guys are weaves of like enemy. But this. Something similar is watching my hero academia. So you can finally get our, our mash up later. I've only seen the first too far but I get it now. I'm really proud of you. Mike doesn't come in until the indices in one. Also the the the main superhero. Yeah. No, no, no. The famous law might. Yeah. All my, yes. I've seen so many people dresses that guy and have spent so much time trying to figure out what the hell. Surprise only you're taking our recommendation a year ago, will you didn't make the recommendation intil September. This is where you pull out back to future. Yeah. That's the futures side of lawn on both of you. Future. Remember it well enough to know which one it was from. Oh, remember, I said, isn't that the one where he tries to sleep with his mom, which, I would not know if I'd not seen the film. No. It's a trillion trilogy about him trying to sleep with his mom. I hope. Essentially is. Marty? We kind of go back and beg your mom. That would make it so much different. And better. I don't know if anything can make back to future better. It is a perfect. Is very tight fade in. Cut to billion the dark hole, Jenny is before and his sense of helplessness and failure have only deepened now. Things begin to get even worse because there is the sound from outside the thick metal covering of the tunnel which means it's being on locked. That's the most efficient way you could have said that. Now, the thick metal covering is raised. Billy gets ready to face Savona now as a surprise look hits his face cut to beauty ah coming through the tunnel and even here she seems to almost glow. She carefully holds a test tube. She's not here. For example. Drink. As Billy hesitates quickly. There's no time father will be back soon. Savant as daughter in front. I just made this for you. It will heal your throat to Billy downing the contents of the test tube. He swallows. Looks at her way. Please. Oh, the parenthetical. Yes. Why, why boy, do I owe, you have waited for you all my life. I could not lose you now. He's still little love your old boy. Well, not you. You know who him? He's perfect. I'm not exactly Trump liver put this on my heart. Taking his hand and as she starts to place it on her perfect breasts. Like you do with eleven year old what the fuck. Can I need to visit his grave, so I can bring him flowers with a card that just says what the? Cut to Billy close up. This parenthetical says hard to speak. Yeah, it is. What did you say? Hey, was cut to beauty looking at him with such emotion. Beauty. Accent on the t. Now she starts quickly back toward the tunnel. And we'll be together forever. Cut to the tunnel entrance. One bloom, kiss. And she disappears way. This is one blown kiss. Not one blown kid, right? Cut to Billy trying to deal with what just happened question about it life, near really interesting sometimes cut to savannah on top of the world, driving up to the house cut to you've just got a trunk full of stiff manikin people. Cut to the laboratory as he starts to tack up a few giants flags than Stamps's foot loudly on the floor. Hello down. Don't think I've forgotten you now from below. We hear a blast of thunder. Cut to Syvana confused. He goes to the window stares up at the blue sky trying to figure out where the thunder came from pause long. Pause. Then the whole floor of the room seems to explode as captain marvel appears, he carries, a still Jenny in his arms lays her on the table. I need to save her. Learn to live with suffering. I challenge you to a battle of wits for the cure. Now, you know, he wrote the Princess bride. A battle of wits with you that should take all of ten seconds. Then let's get involved in a land war in Asia. You ever smoke Asha human skull? Taking it back to Princess bride. Like all. He says. Everyone knows the number one rule never get involved in a land warrant Asia, but only slightly lesser known or get involved in a battle of with Cillian when he's on the line pretty good. Thanks. What have always prided myself on is being as much like Wallace Shawn as. Here are the terms if I win back to prison with you forever. And when I win, if you do it means I could not defeat evil. So why will retire forever from being kept in marvel? By cap. Cut to captain marvel grabbing a paper and pencil. I need to create the antidote. Good. Fool that formulas my secret. To savannah, close up and four moment is, is become distant and strange. And it is now locked in my brain. I defy you to try an end to this is. So dumb, this started dumb, and it continued down the road too dumb. I like how savannah brought giants flags back from the football. The giants mouth breeders. I just want to say that when I was researching this grits trying to figure out exactly what happened along the path, and the development of this into what finally became Zachary Levi movie. I read that the director of this film upon reading this script not the director of the film got made. But the one that was gonna get made that we're reading now when he read the script, he said it was quite possibly the best superhero script. He hit ever read. I'm sure he get paid to say. I mean. Yeah. That sounds like a yeah. I. I think the reason he didn't end up to greasy hands everywhere. Captain marvel in savannah. And they both stare at each other with only the operating table, separating them and Jenny. So pale lying motionless. She's an afterthought to the table. Silence long. Silence. The two men continue to stare in what is possibly the most exciting superhero battle in all of cinema history boss, battle Syvana is happy. You have no chance. This is death chess. And I am an international grandmaster captain marvel and Savona staring staring. There is locked into each other's, but from their faces it's clear, captain marvel is losing. The captain has to look it's a staring contest. Juggling. That's better though. The captain has to look away triumph now on Savannah's face cheer up a mighty one. She won't be dead for at least a few more minutes cut to captain, marvel and the look of failure is back in his eyes we have seen it already in magnificence was destroying him. But that was before Zeus decided he was needed cut to captain marvel close up, and as we watch the look of failure dissolves and as he looks off cut to what he's looking at on the wall behind. Silvana is a shadow, the shadow of ancient wise. Man as is very clearly recognizable to anybody. Cut to captain, marvel and Sullivan for that is who the shadow is. You've come at last door with me now. The shadow nods, and in a blink it's inside captain marvel talking to yourself already. Wait till I'm finished with you cut to captain marvel looking back up to the operating table, staring across at Savona, again, cut to Savona a smirk on his face. Child's play cut to captain marvel in savannah, a long pause. The captain seems to be in trouble again. Then he quickly grabs for the pencil, and paper, scribbled something. Was that you wrote down? Oh, nothing nothing just some stuff, I forgot to buyer earlier at the drugstore. No men mock savannah. What did you write down, cut to captain, marvel showing the paper to Savona start by boiling, the juice of six Egyptians? Scarab. Beetles. I'm assuming I can snitch a few from your collection cut to savannah, close up staggered pointing to his temple. That was locked in ear. No one is genius. Enough to penetrate, their cut to captain marvel looking at Syvana for a moment, you may not be the only genius in the room ever. Think of that scribbling now I of Newt, I have new really. Cut to savannah. And now we realize something each correct. Ingredient is a knife in his heart a lucky guess on your part, o right? Like Newt size are on the tip of everybody's tongue writing hurriedly. But because in trait toes of frog finely chopped, you can tell it from his face Savan is brain is reeling. But the frog pro was my greatest new addition. But the frog tow was my greatest new. Dash super superhero script I've ever read. I'll pay you in twelve year old boys and sell them enders. Excellent and saute some cockroach legs for added strength. Syvana is starting to fold now cut to the paper as captain marvel writes, furiously, more and more ingredients fill the page, and he has to turn and start fresh on the other side. To savannah, grabbing the paper staring at it. This is my phone your LA. Dutta get cracking and mix up a batch cut to savannah, close up a terrible moment for him all the fire leaves him as we watch he is turning into a shipwreck. But. But I. There is a genius. Great and may. Hold on. What was once Savan then cut to captain, marvel moving outside of the house dumping beaten Savan on the ground. The captain holds a tiny vessel of blue liquid cut to captain marvel in close up, and you can tell from his face something is about to happen. He puts his hand on his chest such as the lightning bolt there. And now the most blinding flash of light you ever saw. And captain marvel holds the lightning bolt in his hand. It quivers in the sunlight. The captain digs, the tip of the bolts into the liquid. Go now and save the dying. And with all his might he hurls the lightning bolt into the sky. Cut to the sun getting in the afternoon. But the lightning bolt makes it even brighter cut to the sky. The lightning bolt flashes along. Cut to the clouds, the lightning bolts aluminum them, and now it starts to descend cut to where we are over the eighty thousand dying souls. The lightning bolt begins to circle the stadium going so fast now faster and lower faster still hard to see, but the quivering is greater it shines brighter and brighter now from its tip a mist appears the lightning bolt circles the entire stadium. And now the mist covers the entire stadium. It begins to drop could be a magical Misra looking at slowly, slowly, it descends onto all the people beat four moment. Nothing changes but only for that moment, then all over the stadium people. Blink smile stretch and start screaming go giants as if nothing happened. Cut to captain marvel in savannah, flying through an open window. It's warden Hackman's office Hackman looks up from his desk, as captain marvel. Dumps savannah at his feet air mail special delivery, cut to the warden joyous. It's like Christmas. Thank you. I hate the script. I've got the most wonderful news. Your latest dungeon is waiting for you super clean and fumigated, nothing there that slithers crawls. Don't spoil him now. I let you win you big rig. Jeez. Captain, marvel smiles waves moves takes off out the window as Hackman leads savannah away. I didn't miss read that right? Now putt to captain marvel in unconscious Jenny in his arms, I'm out. As they land, by the stream behind the orphanage. He carefully lays her down dusk, gorgeous. He holds the blue vessel puts a drop of it on her forehead. Boo cut to Jenny her eyes flutter open. I was thinking about the blizzard, she glances around back home. And so glad finally, she lets him go. Maybe I could rest here little. Mr gates. No. Lots of adventures to tell me about you saved me. I like to think we're even. She comma stares out at the stream. The captain looks at her a moment, then heads for the woods. Hey, Marv, he stops turns one thing you might remember any other woman so much as looks at you. She's dead. Inappropriately. I wish that was captain marvel. Even solomon. Can't save me no cut to Billy knocking on Mr. gates office door in the orphanage. Mr gates. She's by the stream. Right there. Just hiring a new teacher go into terrific. God. I think Kelly has more line to thank God Billy nods heads out and Mr. gates closes the door. I hope you like it here. I'm going to just love it. We know that voice it belongs to beauty. To the seven deadly enemies of man filled with fear this time as they should be. Because captain marvel is racing past up ahead is the wizard. What you've done. I assume you said John do. And with gratitude now he looks closely at the wizard doesn't like what he sees cut to the wizard? Ensure he's old centuries and centuries old. But this is different now. He looks old frail failing. Then I can leave you. Cut to captain marvel close up crying out, no. Cut to the reason for his crying out the granite block the string above. It has snapped at last and the giant block falls who knows how many tons it ways. I don't know. It's been a hundred and forty pages in US that before I guess, we forgot disembodied rock and faces. And here it comes crashing down and the wizard sits comb Louis, but not captain marvel. Because in a blink he is left forward. Caught the gigantic block before it. Crushes the old man holds it high cut to the wizard close up. A final shake of the head. Goes looks at the captain. Free. Cut to cats and marvel soft. Goodbye. And the wizard smiles. And the captain releases the block steps back cut to blinding bolt of lightning as the block crushes down. The sound of deafening thunder. Okay. I know we're real close to the end. But I just have to say instead of the block falling and killing the wizard. They had to basically have it. So our hero our protagonist murder has to euthanize emotionally with Iraq. Yeah. He saves him so that he can murder him. That's this entire. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is this dick was an out? Must be again. Captain marvel alone linking back tears, hold for a moment, then cut to. And I just got a point out too. That is right. Sure is act. Sores captain barbell flying through the evening. He stops moment stares around at the sky, his Cape gets tangled up. He laughs at himself. Now he closes his eyes and the minute, he does Jenny comes floating toward him arms held out. She is wearing her sex bomb clothes and looks totally irresistible. Fifty. Now. Here comes beauty floating toward him arms, held out. She looks elegant gorgeous irresistible. This is the last page. This is what we're ending on to captain marvel opens his eyes smiles. Holy moly. He leaves the ladies behind in his fantasy and flies into the darkening sky. The end. This movie legitimately just ended with our protagonists thinking about whether he wants to bang woman, or a fifteen year old girl. It's a fan Fiqh he it's doesn't not make that decision. He has to open his eyes because it's too tough. He's like, I'm gonna have to revisit this day gotta go fly and clear. My head wisdom of Solomon. Libido of Zeus. Let me just turned into a swan real quick. Kelly wins veto of Zeus. God would've script guys. I look, I don't know what I expected, but that was not it a trooper. You're really trooper Kelly. Oh my God. Rough kelly. Next time you were here. We are doing wonder woman. We gotta do that. That's better. I mean in its treatment of women, maybe not. But at least you won't be bored, while women are being true objectified objectified and. Made into damsels. I mean, I, I don't know there will be so much dams alling with wonder woman as the lead. I mean, multiple news outlets talked about how sexist descript was, so I'm not expecting great things. I'm expecting it to at least be better than the David e Kelley pilot. Was that the one with? Yeah, yeah, we're one room is looking at her own figuring. Wondering why the boobs aren't big enough? Oh, yeah. That sounds about right. That's the thing that happened. I could not finish the I'm surprised that wasn't. We'll we'll Goldman. I. No, no David Kelly did. Right. You know, he likes smaller boobs. The longest they're attached the fifteen year old. They're perfect. Gorgeous irresistible. Sex bomb clothing. Oh. He wrote it like. Screwed up and die while watching sucker punch. Who's to say that wasn't the lecturer? I just got this new Blue Ridge. I don't know how I missed this in the theater. This is how Bill Goldman talks in my head. Creepy. Guy hangs out the data the corner, fucking Brooklyn, like give me a bagel them kids. Oh man this. So that's his AM really glad it's over. And I hope that the, the film coming out is better. It looks fantastic. They keep shit out pro by the time this episode did come very one. Yeah. That will out six weeks ago. Okay. But as it has not yet come out at the time of this recording. And it's what two weeks. Yeah. I know Kelly, you're traveling a lot in April. But I think we should all try to go see I think we should see it together. I think that would be awesome. We could do a little like a teaser. Reminder thing, like you could post it immediately after we'll get a picture of all of us Zachary Levi. Yeah. The cut out. Yeah. Absolutely right. Yeah. Yeah. He's been a random to Drax Fayetteville. So why I didn't mean into Dave, I know. But like are you say if you rent a house, there, they start filming started filming guarding him and his crew were in the front row of blade runner, twenty forty nine I also heard marvel isn't coming back to? Lanta wasn't really. Oh, it's been a while since they filmed anything. Yeah. Why? Why would they not? Politics stuff, man. For set continuity for some stuff. They would have to those those sets. They actually here's a little behind the scenes from the art department. So when you build the set, they all come apart. No, no, no, no, I'm not talking down to you. But they and they actually have on the back of each one, the blueprint for that particular set with the part that, that wall is highlighted. So just go, like goes ship them, actually. Very near here. There's some big warehouse with a film macgyver, lot and outside in the parking lot are sets that are just they're just walls that are stacked together and they're covered in tarps. And they have, what set they are spray painted on the tarp like Jackson port. -ment. Not kidding. That makes sense. They're just sitting out there, even has an exact episode number on it like season. Three episode ten civic. No. Yeah, I meant like shooting locations, like building wise. So good though. Just like one less thing to worry about I don't know again, clearly above my pay grade. Well, you don't have any of that worry in guardians, for example. True, what Kanter it was filmed here. But I don't see a lot of it win. And when I look at what Konda. Surprising. We know though, there is there is some actual city stuff there. Yeah. Especially city. Kill kill mongers whole back story, also little side story, I would be met a woman yesterday whose real name from birth is what conduct that's amazing. I totally applaud her parents. Yeah. Tell me the story about what Kanda and I'll like Ohio, mayor. There's a Ojo. What Kanda in Ohio? Illinois, is it. Oh, annoy. Did you tell me? No, I didn't it was around the mayor is like, stop calling us. They just call the it's all the city halls. Whatever they just keep calling them. They're pissing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, it's like a unit other than that. Other than that, it's, it's. Capital. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. Invite the invite the cats 'cause you're in L annoy or a high, and you don't have enough black people to capitalize. So, hey. Let's plug stuff Celli. Yeah. Check out my 'cause play good stuff there, hopefully. Six weeks from now. At cure Kelly. X K. R A, K, L, A Y on Instagram and Facebook. 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RTFP #995: Andrew Brandt

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RTFP #995: Andrew Brandt

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And I'm giving away the two Super Bowl press passes to people that do exactly that to people that take advantage of that code football at one eight hundred flowers dot com. So word to the wise, maybe the one the Morrow or maybe both next week that will be these sponsor confirmation Email winter just so you guys know speaking of winners who's a real winner and always has been our guy. Andrew Brandt wanting to get his thoughts on the Super Bowl. The coach hiring rules that are Asia's LA the ratings patriots sustained success all of those things, and we do it with what we call the big show. Andrew, let's dive right into it with the Super Bowl. And I've seen some of your tweets as a guy that was a front office executive in the NFL for a long time. I can just tell that seems like you're almost in awe of what the patriots have been able to do with their level of sustained success. Yeah. It's a great phrase. Good day Ross. This is something that sports leagues. You know? I teach sports business. I teach sports law. We always talk about the mantra of sports business, which is competitive balance some people refer to it as parody steeper than that. But the goal of sports from a league point of view from a business point of view is to keep the product balanced. In other words, make it easier for bad teams to get good. Make it harder for good teams to stay good. And how do you do? That you do that through reverse order draft, and you do that through salary cap and free agency. So these are ways teams can improve faster, and you give them advantages, and the advantages are you on a level playing field with the cap, and you get the best players theoretically through the draft for the bad teams. So that's why it's so impressive to see this sustained success through the years that they're able to do the patriots. Listen, I have the same kind of roll my eyes as a lot of people do at Brady Bill checks, so great, blah, blah, blah. But you cannot not be impressed with that. I was at the Packers ten years as you know, and we hoped that we were seen in that light to with all the success. We had even though there weren't many Super Bowls. So you try to be on that level? The patriots have been and their sustained success is compelling. Is there anything? I mean, obviously, they have arguably the best coach ever and the best quarterback ever and the best quarterback making less money than he could should whatever. Is there? Anything else that jumps out to you about what they've done that has truly allowed them to be head and shoulders above the rest of the league. He make a point because the continuity of coach quarterback you can point to that you can afford to their greatness. But there are a lot of teams with continuity of coach coach quarterback maybe not for twenty years, but for five for eight for ten years that don't get the results. And usually they changed the coach or they change the quarterback. So there's more to it than that. You know, I think couple things and I'll get to Brady's compensation which we talked about a lot in a minute. But the division. I you know, again, it's not an excuse for their success. But you know, is better anyone that bills jets and dolphins have not had success part of it is due to the patriots. But if you go into a year looking at five and one starting out that's pretty good. And that tends to be what happens with the patriots divisional record. That's obviously part of it. But I think the other thing is you mentioned the coaching and again, you're better speak to this than me. But reading a lot of the articles over the last two weeks there really is sort of an emphasis on type players. They want fundamentals just doing the right things. You know, you watch that defense and you over the years you see the the voca vich is. Vinca fitches and the bills and the van noise and the flowers, and they just seem to always do the right thing without having a lot of star quality about him. And even when they do dip into the free agency market for Gilmore just seems to be a fundamentally sound player. It's just something about their coaching. Something about the players. They get just seemed to be in the right place at the right tone. Meanwhile, Andrew the Super Bowl ratings were not good. It was not the most exciting or entertaining Super Bowl and the ratings were at a ten year low any reason to be concerned in your mind. Or is this a minor blip because people in New Orleans watch LA's, not a great market at there's a lot of patriot fatigue and the game wasn't very exciting. Yeah. I think there's nothing really too worried about it's still a hundred million number which is in this day and age is just mind boggling and off the charts and nothing will be close. I think maybe the next highest rated programs of the year will be the championship games. If not I don't know where the Oscars fall in. But usually top ten eight of the top ten nine of the top ten and programming for the year, our NFL with super both atop so nothing to be too concerned about you know, I think maybe the other way. It was not a good game. So to watch. So I would thought maybe more people would be turned off and sort of turn off the TV or do something else. And I saw the share, you know, whatever it was a forty four share in L A in the national was like a forty five in Boston was like a fifty seven, you know, it's funny because my reaction to that was not so much shocked only forty four share in LA. But to be honest with us, I'm shocked at Fifty-seven share in Boston. Shouldn't that be like a ninety shares Suzette telling me that forty three percent of Boston TV's are not watching the Super Bowl? So that one sort of her prize me even more than the L A number. You don't think it's a concern that L A was below the national average. I think LA's a concerned. I guess what I'm saying L as an expected low rate of return, and I don't think that's news when they put the team there two years ago. And now two teams this is not going to be a passionate market. It's going to be a market that is good for business of the NFL because having a team in the second market and having this great stadium. But no one has ever anyone said. Wow. Those LA fans they're so passionate the best fans. Just not going to happen. Yeah. I guess I why is it explaining why is it so good for the business? The NFL. I guess having a guy put a two billion dollar stadium up. I get that part of it. But I don't know. I mean, they already were having a lot of people watching football in LA. You know, watching the games they they weren't going to them. I I'd love to dive deeper some point into the economics of that. Well quickly. Yeah. We'll spend more time on that later, but quickly again, the number to market your product, your brand, your the end NFL brand think about it. And you don't have a team in the number two market. That's a problem. So they addressed it. The other thing that everyone needs to know is we're not in the nineteen nineties or two thousands anymore. Win ticket sales truly mattered. They were fifty five sixty percent of team revenues now. There are thirty five forty percent of team revenues and tick. It sales are becoming more corporate and sweet sales in L A versus Saint Louis or San Diego are through the roof. So if you charge a sweet in Saint Louis eighty thousand a year, maybe they're charging one hundred fifty thousand year for sweet that same sweet in LA because there's so much money Hollywood, entertainment, corporate, etc. So those are a couple of things. That makes sense taking a look at some other stuff sort of around the NFL now Super Bowl related. You know, we've got a couple more coaches got officially hired this week Brian floors in Miami, Zack Taylor and Cincinnati. You know, since you've experienced it a couple of times, what's the first thing. They do. What's the I I always think it's interesting. When you're when you're building the team, I always wonder what's the first thing they do that first day. Start getting their staff together. You know, these coaches, they're not prone to sort of sit back and. Go into mindful meditation. They're they're calling their staff is the most important thing. Now, I think SaK Taylor, and and floors have been contacting coaches for weeks, of course. But now it's official now that can bring these guys in. I think they're three weeks behind the other group of hired coaches who have got their staffs together, but they're probably still filling them out. So it's going to be two three weeks before they fill out their staffs quick personal note, as you know, five years in Green Bay, I was by the side of coach and coach general manager for a while Mike Sherman, and he had a bunch of kids oldest daughter, Sarah. And I remember Serra meeting this guy, and they got married, and they have a bunch of little kids his name Zach Taylor. So it's nice to see his progression. As the son in law. Mike, Sherman and. Knew him as a young guy. I always think that's interesting too. Because you know, coaching is such a demanding profession that always wonder what the family balances family life balance. But then so many of the sons end up getting into coaching and the daughters end up, marrying coaches. Yeah. P that bad. I mean, if that meant, you know, you'd think if it was that horrible they'd be like, I don't I don't want to have the one thing. I know I don't wanna marry a coach yet so often it happens. It's funny. You know, I was at the Super Bowl for a couple of days this week. And what you're saying makes me think the agent world. And I know a lot of people listen to this. And most people listen to my podcast a lot of people wanna be agents. And you just said exactly what I hear from agents. They all complain. They all complain. But they love it. No. I'm like, well, why don't you do something else? Oh, no. No. I mean, I love. It they complain that it's thirty and it's so hard to get players, and you can't charge what you used to. And it's so many agents for so few players such dirty business. And I'm like, are you gonna leave it known a love it? So it's very similar. I think that's I think that's a fair point. Speaking of that, by the way, you know, these teams had already hired some of these coaches before floor is and Zack Taylor could get hired. Do you think that that's a rule that they need to look at it again? And we saw what happened mcdaniels last year, obviously, talked about it. And what's interesting about that is the defensive coordinator flourished and Reich is keeping them on the offense of line. Coach actually really nice job and Frank Reich is moving on from him and Guglielmo. So I just think it's interesting that that dynamic of it. You know, the fact that you're hiring assistant coaches for somebody that you can't hire officially, you know, people don't care if McCain's thing doesn't happen again. But it just seems to me like there should be a better process. We're all adults here right this. I've said this before like we get the dolphins want to hire a guy on the patriot staff. And we get it. So you don't have to. I don't know. You don't have to press press conference back in Jim mid-january early January. But you can announce it, it's okay. You know, it's like I don't understand why we just can't be official when you have again NFL network reporting, it's likely or it's going to happen. So yeah, I think that. Just let me get in. Something quick. You mentioned the colts offensive line. Coach and often. Listen to players have signed extensions as past week. One is the colts offensive lineman glow. In ski one is the bears offensive lineman. Massey. I don't get it. I don't have any idea how much they're making. But they are making less than they would make a month. I don't get someone with no risk. No injury risk ahead. Signing contracts right now. I mean, I know they're going to say they love the franchise and they made him a good offer. But the bears colts were not going away for these two guys. It's not like they were saying you go to free agency will never sign you again. They liked the players. So we're six weeks from free agency, those two offensive linemen signed extensions. I don't get. I don't get why you would do that now. But they did. Can there be something said perhaps Andrew for? You know, getting the money while the team still has it before they start, you know, spending on other guys salary cap constraints. Yeah, I listen, I get the idea. But if I'm representing these guys. You know and less the team really says something that's gonna turn you off to says, you know, you go to free agency. We're moving on. I would say, very politely. We'd like to see what's behind door number two. What it's something that union has earned for us for years and never been a free agent. Why not it's not like the bears colts were going away. So. They took less than market value. I don't know what they got. And I know people say, well, they got eight million a year. What? No. But. They would have had bidding and teams kudos kudos to the bears colts. Because no matter what they pay. They gotta deal. Right. And I look at it to just to piggyback on that. They would have gotten more even from their own team. You know, if they wait till right on the right? When free agency strikes or whatever last question, Andrew just your thoughts on the report that the raiders will be playing in San Francisco at Giants Stadium. I don't know if that's been confirmed or not. But I've seen that report out there curious to get your opinion on that. And I think I'd seen where they were sending out season ticket renewal stuff without knowing where the team was gonna play. I thought that was amazing. It's interesting. It's a and I did run into Mark Davis this weekend. I did not talk about that. But he he's been looking for a place to play. You know, what Ross I I, you know, my saying everything's negotiable. And now there's litigation as I've had the lawyer on my podcast by the city of Oakland against the raiders. The raiders say you're gonna sue us. We're not playing there. Even though we give you big offer. I think it was seven million dollars to play there this year, or whatever it is. And here's my feeling. I think they resolve it. I just think is too much Noah is too much stuff around going to the Giants Stadium and the forty Niners with territorial rights and other stuff. I think they resolve it. I just think the city of Oakland and the raiders somehow come to agreement on this year. And it's a settlement of the litigation and they figure out a way to stay married for one more year before off to Vegas. That's my prediction. Interesting. All right. I like it. Thanks. Andrea always great to talk with the Andrew always appreciate the time. And love listening to all of the business of sports podcast. You've been on a roll lately with your guests. Awesome. The only thing like it really out there that I'm aware of in in podcast world. So and I'm glad you do it for us over at Ross, Tucker dot com and our. T media. Thanks for your time as always thanks for us. And I'll just give myself a Pat on the back and you to right here. I was at the Super Bowl and people came up to be recognizing me. And they didn't say TV. They didn't say my writing they didn't say Twitter. Most of them said I listen to your podcast. And I was I was floored. So it was it was great to see down there. Awesome. I love it. Thanks for the time. Again. Thanks, guys. Have we confirmed Bri with Andrew that? He wears Saks underwear. I did not get that personal. Okay. Well, I'm going to ask them because he needs to because number one. He's a smart guy. And number two. He is crazy active like the guy does like triathlons and stuff. And that's why Saks underwear is the only underwear I wear now. I don't know how to prove this to you guys. I'll say this. If you guys ever see me anywhere. You can call me out on it. If you ever see me anywhere out in about. And you listen to podcasts. Be like, hey Ross. What's up, man? Listen, there RTF p now might be weird. If we're in public, and I show you my underwear, but I'm willing to do that to prove to you guys that I wear sacked onto where every single day of my life. I'll never go back. I actually like I go to the the YMCA to work out once or twice a week because I like to swim because it's easier on my joints. And I see these guys they're getting changed after they shower. They. They work out. And I look at some of the underwear they're wearing, you know, you see your glancing as you're putting your own stuff on like, what are these guys doing? I mean, first of all the old guys still wear like tidy whitey's, which I need to have a discussion with all of those guys. But even younger guys, they don't know about sacks. They don't know about the ballpark pouch. It's. You wear it every day you wear it every day. I want you to try Saks underwear. So I have arranged a great limited time deal for you five dollars off, plus free shipping on your first purchase. I don't know if your wives get you guys Valentine's Day gift cer-, not telling you just want Saks underwear. Order a few pairs of sex now with this. Great offer. Go to Saks underwear. That's S A X X underwear dot com. Use the promo code Ross at checkout. You get five dollars off plus free shipping on your first purchase Saks underwear dot com. Promo code Ross. Don't be like the dudes at the YMCA be like me. Hi, Ross lots of get to now that we're only three times a week start with the news. The raiders will be playing in San Francisco or will they not know engine? And you spoke about it. What's the latest? Right. So what Andrew Nye? We actually spoke yesterday afternoon the reported been that they were gonna play at the Giants Stadium now. And you heard Andrew say he thinks he gets worked out in Oakland. Now there are reports that the Niners won't give up their territorial rights in San Francisco. And so that's not going to happen. And so the options for the raiders are Oakland or Santa Clara. And I guess my question would be I don't have the answer to this. Couple of things number one. I think it's Larry's that they're asking people for season tickets. I mean, hilarious, right? That they're asking people to renew season tickets not knowing where the team's gonna play that would kind of be a key factor in me renewing tickets or not knowing where they're gonna play number two, which is equally funny to me is I can't ever remember this being situation before I can't ever remember a situation where it's February. And we literally did not know where team gonna play their football games. I mean, well, man, that's that's got to be tough. That's got to be really tough. But they'll play them somewhere. They'll get figured out and whatever at least from a player's perspective. It's going to be somewhere in the bay area, and they're getting paid money to play football. So like, I always say about a team in London or wherever plenty of guys. Sign up for that. There's only so many NFL jobs. Jeez. In coaching news as you discussed the Bengals and dolphins of made it official with Zack Taylor and Brian floors respectively. So I don't know really. Yeah. I don't really know. What to say about that? Right. I mean, we've talked about these guys getting these jobs a million times. I guess the only thing to say isn't Andrew and kinda hit on is. There was no Josh mcdaniels this year. There was no guy that you thought was going to end up. Somewhere. And then he went the other way at part of that. By the way, is why they went ahead, and they made sure that they pick these guys up like from the Super Bowl and flew him there right away. They didn't want to give them a chance to have any sort of second guessing, which is pretty funny. But yeah, they're both there and they're behind a little bit kinda get ready for the next year. But they'll have time to catch up. It's combine then free agency than the draft. They've got some time. Jeez. The day after the Super Bowl Monday. As also the first day the teams could begin to make transactions for next year. So a couple of guys got released including Connor bar win. Austin Davis Spencer long Robert Alford, Tanner VA ho all been released. Right. So Barbara was aligned backer for the giants titans quarterback Austin Davis. And either guys they just don't they know aren't a part of their plans, and they start to free up some cap space Spencer long had a bad year for the jets for the falcons, Robert alford's done some really positive things for them. Now, he's just been inconsistent. But he's done some really really positive things. But they just felt like he was no longer and this will happen. A lot over the next month until March fifth or so you're going to see this a lot where teams are releasing guys that they no longer feel like are worth the money. They're being paid. It's really that simple. And Robert Alford that frees up over seven million dollars in cap space for the falcons they wanna use that money to bring back Grady Jarrett among others, but. Grady Jarrett clearly priority one for the Packer f for the falcons. And then the interesting thing about the Ajo he got claimed off waivers by sixteen spry maybe even seven including the on a cardinal. So he's a linebacker special team dude who already got claimed by six or seven teams including the cardinals, and they had number one in the claim order because they had the worst record almost makes me wonder if the Browns could've traded him for a conditional draft pick. I mean, you have to assume that they tried. I guess, but I don't know, man. I mean, it just seems to me if there's that may teams are interested and one of them at that contract. You think one of them would have given him at least a conditional seventh round pick or something. Stay for some eagles news. Carson Wentz has responded to the story of him being selfish in a bad teammate. And then the eagles also picked up Nick foles option for twenty million dollars next year. But that did not last relaunched as foles bought his freedom for two million. Well, his freedom for right now. The team can still choose to put the franchise tag on him by March fifth, but they're not going to do that. I don't believe unless they have a deal in place. So essentially over the next month. The eagles can talk to the dolphins the Jaguars. And certainly to a lesser extent. I would presume the eagle the giants and the Redskins and see if they can get a deal done because they're not gonna they're not gonna tag foles at twenty five million unless they know they can work out a deal at that point. And then what's interesting there is let's say a team is willing to give them let's say a teen doesn't want to take the chance that full signs elsewhere in free agency. And so they're willing to give them, you know, fourth fifth sixth seventh round pick for just the rights to foles one year twenty five million. To the eagles. Take a lesser draft pick. We get from a compensatory perspective just to make sure foles is not in the NFC east is not with the giants or the Redskins. I think that that's certainly a possibility for the eagles certainly a possibility. So that's an interesting situation. As for Carson Wentz, I kind of liked how he handled it. I kind of liked how he was open about it and said, you know, what they're probably some truth to some of those things that were said and some things that I can improve. And I'm certainly going to work on those things other things though, he was very clear that he's not gonna really change in that regard. I like when people are just it's kind of like what Andrew said about the adults in the room. I like when somebody says, look, we're just we're all Dulce here. Right. And and whence isn't adult. I think much more of an adult than whoever was. Animus source. That's for sure by the way, speaking of adults where all dolts as well. 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FTP Ep. # 149: NFL Week 11 ATS & DFS Picks

Fantasy Throwdown Podcast

43:59 min | 2 years ago

FTP Ep. # 149: NFL Week 11 ATS & DFS Picks

"Welcome to the fantasy Throwdown podcast bringing you the latest sports news fantasy analysis and opinions don't forget the hot takes and have a sports show without heartaches these days. What about hotcakes though, I want some odd case? Now, here's your host ready to jump into the thick of things Dwayne calendar. Welcome to the show. Thank you for listening. Everyone get quite a bit to talk about on this NFL Sunday. Get recap a little bit of the action yesterday in what amounted to a very quiet day in college football. Even though there is a bit of drama going on in the big ten between Michigan and high stay having to go down to the wire to pull off victories in what should have been cakewalk matches. Basically all the top teams in college football decided to take a BI week and scheduled much weaker competition amongst the top eighteenth. I mean, it was pretty much cakewalk say for many of these teams I mean, Alabama's playing the citadel although that game was tied at halftime showing just how little Alabama cared about the game itself until Nick Sabin ripped into him at halftime. But you know, at the face of it, you know, the prime time matchup on ESPN ESPN. ABC just because they alternate depending on your region. But you know, it UCF against Cincinnati should never be the marquee matchup. But that's how weak the slate was yesterday in college football. You had you had to put UCF in prime time. 'cause there's nothing else to play. I mean, realistically like clemson's in a cakewalk against Duke. And yes, I know Duke is stronger this year that in years past, but it's still Duke football. I mean, come on. Let's be out for our selves here people. I mean, it's Duke. So I, you know, at the end of the day, you had what was supposed to be the match up of the day between Notre Dame and Syracuse, and unfortunately, the game was over before really began because Syracuse senior quarterback Eric Dungy gets injured on a QB scramble. Halfway through the first quarter. And you know, I thought Syracuse was gonna put up a great fight. I mean, the spread was nine half ten points. I had money on Syracuse truth be told and as soon as I saw Dungy right around the ground like I fired up the live betting app, and like how to put my money back on Notre Dame just to cover myself. I soon as I saw him writhing around. I'm like this game's over. Syracuse didn't have any options other than Dungy moving around being a mobile tank and just taking a bunch of hits. And you know, it just got a hit in a bad spot injured hip, and you know, that was all she wrote. I mean Syracuse offense did nothing the rest of the game against Notre Dame defense. And I mean, it was thirty six to three blowout. I mean, there was nothing. Honestly, there was nothing else. Syracuse could have done about that game. Wants Dungy went down. Because once he went down like there were one man offense. They offense is predicated on our PO. Oh plays in Dungy being able to scramble take some hits deal some damage of his own and keep the ball moon for Syracuse as a mobile QB. But once that was taken out. I mean it was a rap. You know, nothing you can do about that. So, you know, you just had a budget games account for ball where it was just along the lines of. Somewhat interesting. You had the Maryland almost pulling off the upset of a highest state. But I keep saying this to folks, and the reason why you can't take a higher state seriously. And no, it's not the fact that the entire university like covering up an entire domestic abuse investigation for over three years. It's not even it's not even the off the field stuff. It's the fact that a high state does not have a defense. They have no defense whatsoever. So they get exposed every time they play especially on the road. But realistically against a halfway decent offense that a highest state teams giving up thirty five points a game easy. There's no getting around it like they cannot stop anyone that has any remotely above average are. So once that happens. I mean, how states always going to be in the shootout? And you know, it's it's. A case where you know, if I'm urban Meyer, and I'm seeing this do I really want to go into football playoff from no defense. And the the fact that I got to go up against teams with good defenses that can actually mall my quarterback who's NFL prospect, and I get smashed on national television yet again in the playoffs and air. I really I'm very very much interested in seeing how urban Meyer takes us kiss this. There's a real chance that Ohio State beats Michigan whom I'm also not entirely sold on either. Both Michigan Ohio state have their foibles where I could say like either one of these teams can make it in to the college football playoff, and I can easily see both of them getting absolutely crushed in the college football playoff. So once that happens, then it just turns into a very very awkward situation where I. I could just see going sideways for eater though squad. So you know, they've been escape, but at the end of the day, they both have some question marks data. I think would easily get exposed by top tier team. So moving off from college football, we anthem MBA actualized night. And, you know, always while I'm talking about the NBA is the fact that somebody dropped sixty and still managed to lose the game. I'm talking about Kemba Walker of the Charlotte Hornets Hornets lose at home to the Sixers and it's Jimmy Butler. You know, say what you will about Jimmy Butler being an awful teammate. The fact that matters demand knows how to get it done because even though he was not shooting. Well, if you go back through the game lock he was making some plays defensively. Even though he was still giving my Kemba Walker that that's that's one of those size where it's like sometimes you got guys that can put Pat stats and some guys that are just Gabor's. Jimmy Butler was getting his ass handed to him by Kimbal Walker and yet still makes a block at the end saves the ball. From going out of bounds to retain it and drains to game winning three pointer or like this all happens. It overtime. You know? It's just one of those things where like you could you could say what you want about Jimmy Butler and believe me do Butler to me cannot be max contract guy. Because to me max contract guy has to be able to bring up the quality of the team all around him without being distraction and Jimmy more often than not cannot help himself because of his personality. He's a prickly personality, and he basically gets in guys faces when they don't meet his level standard of play. And so when that happens, you know, it turns it into a very awkward situation. So again, you got a guy like Marquel Foltz now playing less than twenty minutes of game Marquel? Foltz is a. Is a first round draft pick in the top three. I mean, you got votes number one draft pick. I mean. Number one draft pick from two years ago. I haven't played twenty minutes a game. That's that's honestly, the Quami brow is less of a bus Marquel. Foltz is at this point. But here's the thing. You can't play Marquel? Full to Jimmy Butler together during bowler will shred Marquel? Foltz on new one because Marquel Fulton shooting foibles were he can't actually shoot a jump shot anymore like physically it's heater physically. More Kilfoyle to shoulder. So jacked up at this point that he hits you to proper NBA jumper anymore or mentally. He can't get over to hurdle of be having his shoulder injured to the point where he's got the amount block effect of the actual mechanics of doing a repeated action over a course of time. They lose that ability. It happens with baseball players. I. Almost never seen a habit to a basketball player. But that's what Marquel. Foltz reminds me of. He reminds me of the catcher in baseball can't throw back to the pitcher. Or a second basement. No block who can't throw the first base. You know, it's just one of those things work. You see him trying to take jump shots. He was three or six. Yes. But again, it's an awful looking shut. It's like it's so unnatural of shooting motion. And if you look at the tape of him now compared to where was you'd swear it was a completely different guy. Like if you look at it. It's like you figured he had a twin brother who is not nearly talent playing in the NBA. You suspect that this was the same Marquel? Foltz play for Washington. But it is what it is. But Kemba Walker, you know, an elusive effort for the Hornets puts up sixty you know, goes twelve or throw from the free throw line. You know, he I don't know. What else you can do your hip Walker abbey? The truth of the matter is is that the Hornets are. Ab- low average roster toll has like Tony Parker's. Basically, they're collecting a paycheck because he can't really hang in the league anymore. But you know, if you look at the rest of the Rosser, it's just it's not a good team right now. There's just not that much else. You can say about it. I mean, it's just a case of you know. Kemba Walker has to do it all and Kim woke is a free agent coming up. I would not be surprised if Kemba Walker being sick of losing in Charlotte. Cubs over to the Dick's because if you got lose, well, it's a lose at home Eggy paid a lot of money by the Knicks. I mean, I know Knicks fans would like to see Kemba Walker to guard. They would answer kept Walker will be part of the solution. I'm the. I'm really sold on that yet. But I would like to see a Walker just for selfish reasons because I think he's a fun Blair to watch. But you know, at the end of the day, you know, walk. I mean, a Shirley is just a case of you know, Michael Jordan has just made a bunch of bad decisions. I I mean, the fact that he did extent Kemba Walker to begin with, you know, was a head scratcher because there's not a whole lot going out that team. So let's he's going to blow up the roster for the third time since he's been the odor of the Hornets in less than ten years because MJ is turned this roster over bolted times already, and it still has a work Marvin Williams were maids a bust there. There's no way there's no way of slicing it. I mean, it's thirteen years of being a complete another bus and he's still playing over twenty five minutes a game. It's crazy. But. That. And then they still got Cody Zeller on like there's some bad players like some bad player. So this Charlotte team is like. Anyway, I gotta get into the NFL action here because we're ready run behind schedule. So anyway, looking at the slate of games today. This is one of the hardest DFS slates I can think of to pick because. Honestly the truth. The truth of the matter is the pricing of the DFS Teves this year. I mean, especially for this week compared to the rest of the year. It's just all over the map. I just can't get a feel for what thought process the powers that be at draft Caixa fan duel had in mind because they got way too many keep options at running back. It's almost impossible to figure out what the truck plays going to be because they're a ton of great place this week. But let's get into the game picks. I it out. I'll I'll read a back with the the actual defense picks because this is going to be a very tricky to navigate. So it turns a week eleven the slate. Looks starts off with the what o'clock games obviously you got Texans and Redskins. You know, Texas, minus three. You know someplace they're laying two and a half, depending on your pool. But I I look at this game. And I'm saying to myself why she did has so many injuries at the moment with the offense of light Washington is predicated on being able to control the line of scrimmage Texans. You know for all the complaints. I make about Bill Bryant the defense always shows up. We got the week. So I don't see where Washington scores points. Even though they're at home. I don't see I don't see scenario where they could score twenty points in this game. So that requires the defense to hold down the Andrea Hopkins and the Mary Thomas because coming off the bye week. You know, you got you gotta deal with various Thomas having an extra week to learn to playbook and coup. Kikuchi is should we get to go today? I just look at it. This is just a bad match up for Washington. Even though there. At home. It's not a good match of right now. They got too many injuries. I gotta take the Texans here that so much because I think Texas over that of a team it's just a wash it likes to do. And what the Texans are good at. You know, it's not a good batch of right out for watched giving their injuries that they were healthier on the office of defensive lights. Yeah. I could take Washington. But not right now they've got their down four linemen on the offense of light. I mean, I it's just it's just a train wreck down the office lead defense of lies down pretty much. Every starter has miss time this year for Washington this year on the fence of light. So I just cannot recommend them in any capacity. So I would have to take Texas here. Looking at the next match-up ravens hosting the Bengals Joe flacco is out with the hip injury, which was expected. So you got Lamar Jackson making his first NFL start the line actually jumped on this one from the ravens lane three points to now laying six and a half seven points. I mean based on the flacco news alone. I mean, people are all in a Lamar Jackson. I'm in Jackson for defense there. But because the price is so cheap bottom. But you know, looking at the bagels defense there. They had the fire they had to fire the federal coordinator after giving up fifty one last week marvelous if he wants to keep his job east gotta take back the reins of the be the defense coordinator, but you know. It's it's still going to be a working progress for the Bengals because AJ agreed still going to be out bunch of injuries or that defense right now, they're just that healthy. And the ravens should be able to take advantage of this. Even if they have to simplify the offense Dow to word right road left through down the middle or option a option out to run play and supply the offense to that. Except for labar Jackson. They're still gonna win this game. So I gotta take the ravens if it's three and a half. Absolutely. If the light six seven and a half, I would lay off of it. But if you're going to pick pool that line should still be at three and a half because the decision came in today. So you should be get to go there. Titans going to Indy. The play the colts. You know? This is an awkward match up because I look at this. As a case where I would pick Tennessee because I don't trust the colts. But I don't trust the Tate until that much either. But the titans Sabbath played better on defense as of late. So I'll give this slight edge. The titans even though they're on the road titans there. They are other dogs by two and a half points. I gotta say that this is going to be one less appealing matchups to be on paper. But there is a possibility of DFS that I will have exposure to these guys mainly because of the fact that there is potential that you can have some big place down the field for the likes of t y Hilton you get accord Davis had a big game last week aching easily happen again today give it his size relative to the Indy corners. So there's a there's a chance that this turns into a sneaky shootout that's in the fifty point rage, and as opposed to the under forty four point total tat is currently associated with it. So we'll see how it goes. But that's an interesting what to keep an eye out for Steelers traveling to Jacksonville to play the Jags Steelers laying five and a half. You know, I know people are all on this. Steelers today. The narrative says Beal in on the Steelers, the Jags are complete disarray. But was remembered and as much as I trash Blake Bortles at the Jaguars. Let's remember last year, Jacksonville, absolutely owned. The Steelers beat them three times convincingly, by the way, it was not that close. It actually to ties regularly two types of refugees. And what breezy, but you get the idea. It was not that close in terms of the batch like Jacksonville owned Steelers last year and the Steelers grant home in the play offs and Jacksonville came in and beat the snot out of them with labia. You know, again, the whole LeBron James kind of situation. I know people are saying that they don't need to worry about beyond James Connors their lesson. I will play James Cotter in DFS I'll blame regular fantasy. But if you're telling me into Steelers are going to absolutely crust the Jaguars. I cannot go that far. I think Jacksonville could cover the five and a half. And I think Jacksonville has a chance to actually win this game last year. There's a game that the Jacksonville defense can get up for is this one where their backs are completely gets the wall. They know about a loss and they are done for the season. So this could go one or two ways Jacksonville can keep this one close in pull out a victory at the end or Steelers blow them out early and Jacksonville's having fights in the locker room at halftime. I could see both scenarios happening. I just tend to believe that the former is a much more likely scenario than the ladder. Given the fact that. These rosters are not that radically differ from last year. I think the Jackson actually match up very well against the Steelers. And Leonard fournette ran roughshod over the Steelers defense. I, you know, I'm still wanna see the Steelers defense go up against a power run team like the Jags and get it done. They've been they've been doing well against a passing Teves blends of Jack's kick it the run game go that's a very interesting matchup to see. So moving on Panthers. Go onto the lions who are in full on tank mode Panthers four and a half point favorites. And I gotta take the Panthers here. I mean, the lions are down to kindergarten as the number one wide receiver because mar marva Joe's is alpha knee injury. You got a bunch of injuries on the offense of life for the lion's not much help in terms of the passing game. Although Louis Louis Riddick is a to be a Riddick of saying Louis Riddick the ESPN analyst. That's his uncle THEO Riddick is the running back for lions. So. Iino? It's a case where the Riddick is actually a play for the fence because technically he will qualify as a number two wide receiver on the lions right now because of all the injuries, but I can't give conscious recommend the lights at all today. Even if you want to do a differential play for picks pool is like Carolina's all might lots of the week. If you got them at if you're able to get them at three and a half kudos to you. I was holding. I was a little bit asleep at the wheel earlier this week with betting on some of these games. So I missed the three and a half point as spread. But you know, I I gotta take a lot of this. There's just nothing about the lions I recommend that the president. They got too many take take take the Panthers over the lights, and you just be happy with it. Just because it's not going to be sexy play today. But you know, just to take the money where you can get it moving on. We got. Got the Cowboys. How about them Cowboys traveled to Atlanta gets a falcons team that will surely find a way to choke this game. I will Tripoli take the falcons by his three and a half men. I do not feel comfortable about that. At all. For by picks pools. I can easily see a scenario residual Elliot once for two hundred yards against this Atlanta defense. Now, these scenario were I don't tease equally running for two yards is because Zeke will run for one forty then catch over seventy five yards of receiving yards on dump all passes from Dak at score. Couple touchdowns receiving as well. Like I could see Zeke going completely off on the falcons today. And you know, they're really wouldn't be any shock to be all over that. Like, there's a very good chance. Zeke destroys people today, and you know, the odor chip. Shipping up on Zeke. But this is a very wonky week because I could see a lot of people being on saquon Barkley for the giants, which I'll get to moment. But Zeke to be is an absolute must play for defense purposes. There's just there's just too much. Good opportunities here for Zeke to go off against a very weekend. Land of defense. I'm sorry. There's I don't see any downside the playing Zeke this week, given even though you have all these other running back options available. Seek to me is the play. Okay. Moving things along. You know, I said my piece enough about the giants. But this is actually one matchup. They should win book straddling to New York to play the G, man. Here's the thing about fits magic. He can easily throw for four hundred yards. But I know he's going to turn the ball over at least three times, the there's just no way. Rif? It's Patrick is not gonna find ways to turn the ball over in Giants Stadium. I don't care is like he did it enough time since the jets QB he's going to turn the ball over. And that's what he does. He's gonna wreck up yards. But I say the giants are going to win this one. It's a pick a match matchup the lines moved up to a little one. But you know. I still look at this as a game the giants should win. And you know, even though it's in the giants best interest to lose. I would be surprised at the giants actually lost this one. I it's just one of those match ups where I feel sake you to have a big game. I think Eli should be able to have some time to throw down the field because Tampa's pass rush even though JP's looking at it as a revenge game, you know, outside of him like you can double team him. Like, there's not a whole lot on this Tampa team. So it's one of the few matchups league that this offense of line. Should look good against. I just don't see how Tampa's defense matches up with the giant skill position player. So I look at the giants as a healthy win here. I think they win by touchdown. And I mean, even with align this thin, I I look at the giants. And I think it's a lot. So I I'm going to giant here. Even though it's against our best. Interests long-term to get a high draft pick. So go the giants that that basically takes us into the four clock window, and you know, couple of matchups that I don't really care about. But you know, we gotta cover them. You got the raiders going into Zona? I mean, you know, what I've said about Jon Gruden. I mean mantha and Ponzi scheme does not a real football team as much as I don't like the cardinals. You know, the fact that Byron F which is now the offense coordinator Dave looked better offensively of ready. So I have to get the edge to Arizona to cover the five and a half points that they're laying here. Just when the standpoint of you cannot under any circumstance bet on the raiders, I it's just not a good place. They don't like Gruden it. Yeah, they're trying to play throw contracts. But like when you try. To go into business for yourself more often than not yet end up screwing some assignments up and in causing more disruption amongst your defensive unit. I do not like the way the raiders Leclerc right now. I I would still take the cardinals. Moving on. We get the chargers hosting the Broncos depending on the line. You can get the chargers at seven and a half or seven points. I I look at this. As a case of, you know. Melvin Gordon it's gonna get used quite a bit against the Broncos rusty fence, which although shaky has been better recent weeks, but I would not say to the south of that they could shut down Melvin Gordon, plus Joey Bosa has come back on defensive side. So the pass rush should be phenomenally better than it has been since the beginning of the year with an without Bosa. I don't see where the Broncos really realistically keep up with this game. So I gotta take the charger sear, minus seven or seven and a half doesn't matter. I still think they win by more than touchdown. I don't see where the Broncos keep up, and this is probably going to be the being beginning of the end of Vance Joseph in Denver by all accounts moving on to the. Late night game. You know? I don't know where to make where kind of make up my mind here because we got the Vikings traveling to Chicago Chicago's not getting respected or home underdog there, minus two. I actually know what I screwed that up. Chicago is being fair right thought they're the underdog here. I'm looking at different line here. But realistically, Chicago shift we favorite here. But they're not being feared by much Chicago's only favored by they're laying two and a half points some lines. I'm seeing pick them. I just don't see where you could say that the the bears are not in a position to be able to win this game. Kirk cousins has not been that impressive. I mean, you can say that Kirk cousins has been unimpressive. Which is when he was I've been making Mitch Trubisky. I've criticized but at the same time the number showed that he's been far more consistent Kirk cousins. You know on the face of it. You got to good defenses and the passing game should be stifled. But Chicago I actually trust more than Minnesota right now in terms of being creative on offense. So if it comes down to a big player to yes, I know Minnesota can always throw it down to deland or Stefan digs, but I think Chicago tackles well enough to prevent the big play. I'm not so sure that Minnesota's gonna be able to stop Chicago from getting away for Gant you play with the likes of Tariq Cohen or Taylor Gabriel. I feel so they're going to figure out a way of getting a big play down. And that's going to be different to the game to get the win. So. You know, this could go sideways, but I I liked the achy do like the bears here. Even though I'm I'm pretty confident most of the experts are on Minnesota as the dog. That takes us to Monday night football the game that should have been in Mexico City except the NFL never actually bothered to check at the field conditions and Mets co in the ticket stadium. We're actually going to be ready to play well in advance of the game. I mean, the fact that it took. Up until the weekend of the game to decide at the game can be played there and have to move it back to LA which again is going through the worst wildfire in recorded history in the state of California. But you know, being that everything else that's going on. You know in terms of questionable air quality. It you know, it shouldn't necessarily impacts the game based off of the meteorolgical reports. But you know, there is a legitimate concern about the actual training for somebody sees because they were prepping for a high altitude game. And now you're coming back to normalcy level, we get to the fences that can't stay off the field. Can't stop on a team from scoring the, you know, I I really struggled this one because I feel as though this one's going to be the shootout, everyone expects it to be. So I think this game could easily crush seventy points on the over under you know, if I'm if I'm betting on this. And I actually don't want to bet on this one because it could easily break one way or another. If someone gets special teams play something goes wrong. There's a fluke fumble. Oh abounds in the other way. I mean, if I take a team, I'll take the Rams being at home over the chiefs. Plus, some of the things that were going on is that, you know, both the Rams fans and the chiefs fans were flying down to Mexico City. So I know how the fan base is actually gonna be represented tomorrow, given everything that's going on. So I think they're still being more LA fans just giving effect to the games in L A because of the chiefs fans travelling down to Mexico City and presumably not being able to get a refund on the tickets today already planned out for the holiday trip. So, you know, I it is it is what it is. So I'm gonna take the Rams hair minus two and half. I'm definitely taking the over. It's just one where I can't see either defense being able to stop the other team, and given you know, you we had altitude conservative originally. Now, you have air quality concerns. I look at us. And I'm saying to myself, you know, in terms of the actual point production. We're gonna be in in a spot where they're going to be tons of point scored, and it's just gonna come down to whoever has the ball last. So the recap I still say the Rams, but given the fact that the over under still at sixty three and a half. I I'm saying this tolls gonna crush I I'm just looking at it from the standpoint of you got to bad defenses. Air quality is not great. The big boys are going to be sucking wind between the Rams and the chiefs. I just think that this is going to be a little man's game. The quake receivers on both sides of the football should dominate this game. And you're not gonna see that much of a pass rush. Two four quarter. We could easily see a scenario where we got to twenty eight points in a fourth quarters scenario. I'm just saying it's just one of those gains where? Even if it starts out slow keep betting on the over because I just see guys wearing out way early in this game compared to normal condition. So anyway, let's move onto the DFS picks. Just so I can get this thing up loading in time. You know, very difficult week to sort out. But I'm just looking at it from the standpoint of for DFS lineup. The that I would go with on a draft kinks fan duel. The two guys I wanna have in my lineup guaranteed would be saquon Barkley and Zeki Elliott reasons that are abundantly clear I've talked about this with the Cowboys. They should be able to run roughshod over to falcons Z can catch balls out of the backfield as well as any back into league. The falcons are dreadful absolutely dreadful Zeke should have over two hundred yards from scrimmage today easily if they use them correctly. This should be a monster game for Zeke if you're playing Zeke in regular fantasy. I think you're screwed. But you know, unless you have another top tier running back, but it's just a match up where I feel as though it just. Plays into the hands of what the Cowboys want to do. So I like the Cowboys in that scenario, and I like the giants because Tampa Bay realistically doesn't have any. Kyw quality players. I mean JP is a good pass rusher. But it's a terrible terrible. Rush defender, you know, he's way too undisciplined so saquon Barkley should have one of his best games of the year. If not his best game of the year. Because of the fact that he's actually going to have running to go through as Benazir giants. Offense of line is they should be able to create holes because Tampa gets way over aggressive trying to get pass rush, and they leave lanes open so sake one should have a big game to running the football and catching the ball out of the backfield. I just feel as though both these guys should be rostered on your DFS lineups. The other guy I'm looking at would be Lamar Jackson. And here's the reason why it's because he's cheap. And there's not much you can get around it. It's the fact that Lamar Jackson if. You're being honest with yourselves here, folks, you know, you look Lamar Jackson. He could easily rush for sixty five to seventy yards today for from scratch just by scrambling. And that gives you a solid floor. He's only forty seven hundred on draft kinks with that pricing model in place. All you need from Lamar Jackson is to get to sixteen points to be a good play today from a fancy perspective. I mean think about it if he rushes for sixty ours, which is easily doable in my opinion against a very weak Bengals defense. What are you talking about here? One touchdown throw and you're easily at sixteen. I mean, I I just think there's a no brainer. You know, the, oh, the I would say you play here for defense purposes, unless you're paying up for drew Brees. You can look at ally. Or if you look at Marcus mariota mariota is. I someone I've probably be underweight on because there's always a chance that that Tennessee into game doesn't go away work speckling it to work, it'd be a sneaky shootout. But Ilan should have a good day against Tampa Bay. Because they're not a good defense. You know, he lie when he has time and Tampa Bay's pass rush can't get that you live. But I don't think they'll be able to get to them consistently because of some of the discipline issues. I see them having I think alike mannequin have a great day after the two hundred you know, he's really cheap. You know, the these are really cheap objects. Yes, drew Brees is up there. And drew Brees and cursing Lynch should have a Mosser's eight throwing the football around at the quarterback spot. But if if you're asking me, I'm just saying, you know, go cheap with quarterback that way, you can stuff your running backs. So you get stuff Zeke and say. Kwan in there. And if you wanna roll with like, David Johnson or Melvin Gordon, you should still be able to have room in the budget to do. So because you play Lamar Jackson is just saving money. Now, if I'm looking at other spas where I'm going to save money. It's going to be at the tight end spot. So I'd be looking at guys like James O'Shaughnessy for the Jaguars. Because of the fact that you know, the Steelers not very good in past fence against tight ends. With a guy like Shaughnessy, you know, you're under three K in terms of getting a tight end. You could also rookie seals Jones at twenty nine hundred. But like, my my from my perspective like O'Shaughnessy is the place twenty six hundred hundred gangs for grand, which is the bare minimum on fan Faneuil. You know, it just makes sense because you know, at the end of the day, what what's gonna happen here is from the standpoint of, you know, you need to save money because unless you're paying up for that Gertz, there's not a whole lot of value here in somebody's place. Yes. Greg Olsen could into the end zone for Carolina. That's not a guarantee and Carolina hasn't been given a exceptional amount of volume to Olsen data. So, you know, it's not one where I really want to pay down to go to Greg Olsen. I could go with Jared cook as an option at thirty nine hundred, you know, he's he's. He's in the five km range on fan duel. You know, that's another option, but not exactly a lock either. Given the way the raiders offensive line woes have contributed throughout the year as to the deterioration of the passing game. So tight end spot. I would rather pay down fit in the top tier running back. So I can get in there and then the wide receiver spot. I'm looking at a guy like t y Hilton I'm looking at old del sterling shepherd could be play as well. But I you know, I think I would rather have Dell than sterling shepherd just because the giants would be more likely to feature Odell and sterling shepherd by far given the up today. The other guy you could be looking at would be Kenny. Golly of the lions given Marvin Jones being out. I mean, Detroit just doesn't have a whole lot pass catching option. So either THEO Riddick or golly. He's gonna get the lion. Share a tar. And I would say it's probably going to be probably gonna end up being a golladay. So I like all the potentially here. I also like Amari Cooper as an astronaut Mark Cooper is only fifty four hundred and we know Dallas has propensity of forcing the ball in to Cooper when it should be given it to Zeke so Cooper could be a pivot play. If you don't feel confident playing Zeke, and you know, realistically, I would tell you play Zeke. Don't don't don't don't be cute with it. You know, that's another way you can go bad it. So those are my suggestions feel free to disagree. But you know, that's where I feel comfortable with you know, I still think on a defense for Jacksonville's defense is not at actually terrible plan twenty two hundred and if you're saving money, I kind of look at Jacksonville, and I kind of look at Denver as two options that you can go with because again, Denver solely to k. Gestures two point two. They can get turnovers they can get sax. It's not out of wrong possibility that big bend. Throws an interception for Philip rivers stores. Interception. I think it's a very real chance that you can have some turnovers here and into the giants defense two point four. K you know, it's it's definitely viable option at because it's fits magic. He could easily turn the ball over four or five times. I think you'll probably be about three times before he gets yanked. But you know, very real chance that you you give Fitspatrick falling off the face of Europe in in Giants Stadium and at MetLife in the giants. Take advantage of it. So again to recap stick with a priori back. I would say saquon Zeke or must you can use use David Johnson. But I just kind of look at it from the standpoint of. You know, if you can get those quality backs in there that makes all the difference in the world. Because now you'll be able to get yourself in a much better position overall to be successful this this late because of the lack of wide receiver helped that you're going to get at the middle tier? I think it's a very weak. Why receive record this week? So you're you're kinda left with hoping for the best rather than because. Yes, you can play Michael Thomas, but it's such a high premium that I think it's an easier. Play just go with saquon Zeki will than having Michael Thomas pay it all for you. So those are my suggestions. Hopefully, you have some success with them. Best linked to all of you. If you're lineups today and for regular fantasy. So let's go to do for the show today have go on and enjoy the games.

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70. Jerica Jech, Online Dating Coach

Fancy Free Podcast

25:35 min | 6 months ago

70. Jerica Jech, Online Dating Coach

"You are listening to the fancy free podcasts where my guests and I tell our most embarrassing funny stories. So we all feel less alone in our imperfections and Fort Connection through vulnerability and humor. I'm Joanne, jared and I'm your host today I have with me Jerick Jack. Jerick is a dating and relationship coach for women in Midlife which I think is an amazing net. I love it. She considers herself a Ninja at online dating and she helps her clients find the good men and do things differently this time around changing their patterns for good. Jericho. Thank you so much for being with me today. I'm excited to get rid. y'All in the blanks. Tell me what I missed about who you are and what you do. Well, that was a pretty good intro. I do live in Seattle Washington I have a fifteen year old son I Medina and coach for women in Midlife and I. I was kind of my first client in a way I guess living I did online dating. Myself met my honey there and like you said I kind of consider myself an online dating guru or Ninja because let's face it. There is a lot of craziness out there with it and difficulty with and people get so frustrated. But just like what if? It could be actually fun and it can work, and so I'm just like that Voice of hope that yes, I'm not gonNA say that it doesn't have the the downsides, but it can be fun and it can actually work I. Think at the end I'll tell everybody about a free video training I have kind of getting you started on how to actually make this online dating thing a little more fun and successful yeah. Awesome okay. We will definitely give you more details at the end of the show there if you want to find out how to look at that online video training course I, love it. All right are you ready for the rapid fire questions? Let's do it. Okay. What was Your First Job Kentucky Fried Chicken? Get. Sounds like this nightmare job, but it was actually really fun. Okay. What is your superpower? My superpower? Controversial but it's Reading the future not like I, get visions or put my hands on a crystal ball or anything. It's more practical than that. What I've realized is when someone makes a choice in their life or if I do I Like, see five years from then ten years from the and I'm like. Well, if you do this like probably this is going to happen. So you follow threat. And you just play that out inside your head. Okay. What is your favorite thing about the place that you live? It is the summer I live in Seattle and it is absolutely gorgeous hair in the summer. Okay. What is your love language quality time frame and physical touch. So basically, let's cuddle and watch a movie. Okay Perfect I. Love that. You name too because I think we all have a primary language and then a secondary language. So We don't have to put all our eggs in one basket. I've studied that a little bit. You know as dating coach I've read the whole book and I've taken the task I. think it's helpful to kind of know about it and with some people especially, if you have kind of opposite love, languages can be really really important. If you realize, oh I don't really consider gifts important and the other person that's their main thing and but like when I look at it and I look the five love languages I'm like well, can I have all five? Let's just cover all the bases and we'll be good. Gift giving is like the very bottom. It's almost like a zero out of ten but I. A give yes and it isn't necessarily the gift this meaningful to you, but it's the thought behind it. Gifted satisfying a different part of your language is than it would seem at the surface so If you could rename yourself. What name would you pick? This is kind of funny because I actually already did this you did. Those sweet first name DJ Erica. I'm giving away now all the all my secrets really we're going to get to the embarrassing story, but by wasn't born with the name Garriga, I just tell the story or give my name. Let's go for I. WanNa hear you. We can't stop here I gotTa know. My birth name was Jennifer Jack. So I still had the JJ and my parents were hippies in the seventies in California picture the dad and the gigantic beard down to his belly button kind of and. So they thought, they were picking this unique name, but it turned out to be the most common girl's name that year. That's right. Everybody. I knew I was Jennifer. I feel like exactly jammed and it was. Always liked my name, but I wanted it to be more unique. Remember I was the Hippie Child. So I always wanted to change it and I waited until after college because really I. Liked my name I liked Jj and I couldn't really find something that really worked. And then I kind of came up with Jared I was twenty two just graduated college and I moved to Germany for two years. But I thought well move to this new place and I'll just tell everybody that's my name nobody knows me and so I'll kind of like try it on. and. So that's what I did and then when I came back from Germany, I was like Yep Jerick now. So then I informed my family and the legal change and did all about stuff. How did your family respond? Well, member was raised by hippies. Great anything you WANNA do those own name really yeah. So hard already changed his name he changed it from his middle name to his first name, but it wasn't like a huge thing but my mom had already experienced that that's so fascinating. Well, as you know, the point of this podcast is to tell each other are most embarrassing funny story so that we feel better about ourselves. We remember that we're not alone. We remember that the people were looking at are not as fancy as they seem, and we all connect through laughter and just Kinda showing our underbellies. So what do you have for us today whether you're not so fancy moments. Well, of course, I have to tell a dating story than those are always like the funniest anyway but as it hit. A couple years ago I met this guy line and we went to our first date co coffee date or I call it meet and greet. So the first day it's kind of like a blind date and that went well, and then after that is what I call the first date and he wanted to get really creative obviously and kind of outside the box which I thought you know major points for that so. He invited me to play softball with his Co. ED softball team in a game odor, and this is kind of my philosophy about life and dating of course, throw yourself out there get out of your comfort zone have fun and don't really. So so iconic saw this as a challenge care haven't played softball in like you know twenty years or so. But the sounds exciting it sounds a little scary and let's do it. In the same spirit of that I'm like, okay I'm going to get out and practice you know through the ball around and went to the batting cage and keep in mind this was like more for me necessarily than it. For. Him I didn't. Ask I wanted to embrace the situation of playing in the softball game but I also, you know I want to be good. Kunar. I. Didn't know him. I didn't know that the team I didn't know. You know are they competitive? Are they drinking a beer after every? Scenario. What are we going to be in a park? Are we going to be the giants stadium? What are the basis made of I know nutting? Woke up what what are the basis made? That's kind of related to the story. So we we go to the game and the game starts and I was one of the first at Bats I. Think they had a shortage of women maybe this was his ulterior motives. He just wanted a woman like. Boy on the team who knows but I was up about like much before him and stuff and I hit the ball. So. Great, that's a huge win. So I hit the ball but not real good I. Think I hit it Kinda like right to the first base. So I was at home plate right in that moment when I hit and I went to spring off because you wanna like sprint right to first base to try to make it. And the dirt right around home plate was really really loose I guess because as I dug in it just kind of gave way and basically I did a superman face plant. One from first base, which also like directly in front of the Dugout, which is where my entire team of people who I didn't know plus this guy. I really literally fell on my face. The dirt of course I got out also. Humiliated guess gotTA. Pick myself up literally dusted myself off because I was just covered head to toe when all his dust and of course, I just tried to you know oh hey. You know they were good sports about it and everything they were like good job nice honor. slunk back and then had to hang out with them. Of course, the tug O old. Dominion. How painful was that? What are the rest of the game look like for? You was slightly physically painful. That was kind of part of the embarrassment to as forty eight. So. All in twenty years, you're trying to like slink back into the dugout like oh my back. Oh, my need like. Totally ready next up. The game ended up working out fine, and we actually ended up winning NYSC also I found out later that this team had lost all their games. Wow. So they weren't expecting much. Yeah. They weren't they were expecting anything and I ended up being kind of like the hero of the game they were like, oh. We won because of jared and not because of that moment probably. So you were able to move and function throughout the rest of the game. That's impressive. I did have another moment later that was kind of half a success half of failure embarrassing half proud. Outfield this time I was I forget if it's right or left field, but I think it's the place where nobody hits the ball. It was like when you behind first base. So I was out there and right away somebody pops a fly right to me Agali and audit. Nice. That's the hero part of it but I caught it actually in my right hand without my Mitt. Ouch. So that was kind of like a combination of might've permit Nathan but with my lack of experience like my automatic thing was you your right hand? It hurts so bad. I broke it reminds broken. Bruised. Like my whole palm. Oh my gosh, and again, I just like Oh that didn't hurt all. Every coursing cheered in this situation I was like the hero what I tried to pretend like it was totally normal that I cut it with my other. Own. Let's try not to throw up. Yes that was exciting. Oh my gosh. But that was very brave of you to be willing and you obviously didn't ask thirty follow up questions that I would have for the guy at the meet and greet like. Okay. Before I decide whether or not I can play with you softball I need to know will there be an audience is this like a feeder team to a pro team or are we going to be like Drinking Beer and the Oh? Yeah while I'm. Kind of difficult about a first date is that you know? I'm trying to be cool. Trying to like. Yeah. Sure. Lake is A. Really good and he like he was trying to reassure me and stuff but I'm trying to be like, yeah, it'll be fine and so did you go out with him for a second date? Actually we did dated him for like about another month or so that the rest of that night end up going really well, that's the thing about embarrassing moments embarrassing to me but nobody else cared right and furthermore people probably felt more connected to you after they experienced that with maybe because then instead of a caricature or somebody that they're looking at. Comparing their insights to your outsides. Now they've senior underbelly and they're like, oh, she's normal to she does things like that too and she can laugh at herself and everything I think that not only is it that we need to learn to be less embarrassed because other people aren't seeing as the way we think they're seeing US but furthermore probably makes everybody like you more and feel better. I'm not suggesting that you go tripping all around. You know I'm purpose. But I think that showing people this side of us is kind of fast forward to. Not, necessarily intimacy but just connected nece for sure. Absolutely. Okay. What happened at a dinner party at your? House. So this was a little bit younger and I got to say because I'm going to have another story after that's that's about high school and my view of embarrassing stories has really changed a lot from the high school one as I've gotten older. It's just been kind of like you know what life's too short to feel horrible about this and yes, this next story I was able to move on really quickly but it is pretty funny. So I was at a dinner party at my house. In this case, I was surrounded by people. I really really trusted my boyfriend at the time and really close friends and it was a small group. We were doing the mystery dinner game rule. Everybody had costumes, different costumes for the different role that they were supposed to play, and my role was missing. Senior Rita Margarita. And so I kind of dug through my clothes to find the right thing and you know how it is with costumes you end up kind of Riggan Reagan together, something a little weird totally. So I took this shirt that I had that it somehow spoke that costume and the shirt. I turn it into a skirt. Oh I kind of how around my waist and somehow tied hidden under the rest of my costume, and then on the outside of my costume, I also had red hot chili, pepper lights around me like a big necklace I had tights underneath and hold this stuff cost kind of complicated. During the murder mystery game I was standing up in front of everybody else probably to say my lines and they were all sitting down and I was standing up kind of like a little presentation and as I stood up the skirt just fell off. Supposed to be a skirt somebody who was sitting on the path of the clear is something that even funnier part about it was I didn't feel it fall off not all because of all the tights and the lights and all this other stuff that was GOI. Talking and doing my little lines and acting out my little murder mystery. And my friends are like age Erica Might WanNA put your. You're like giggling I am so funny I'm totally pulling this off. I think I told Mr Back on and just kept going. Oh well, that's not where that belongs. Luckily had tights on although tights can be really ugly without something over them at least you. Bare Cheek in absolute like A. Tight look yes. Yes. Weirdo. Yeah. The thing underneath that you never want your lever to see like your strap downtown. Not. Love it? It's a great I've never been to murder mystery party and I. Think they sound like so much fun. Is that a trend that's kinda coming gone or do people still do that I? Don't actually haven't heard anybody talking about that. Of course, we can't really do anything now in twenty twenty definitely people over for dinner. Birdie. But when be fun oh. Gosh wants everything lifts said it's going to be like every night like we're going to be partying going out tonight tomorrow as Mr Night, and then we're having over and then we're having ranger whatever y'all we're all going to be exhausted like three months into when. I can't wait. Tell me what happened to you in high school this when felt a thousand times more embarrassing because of you know being fifteen I guess. Swim team, and we had a meet and at the meats there would be volunteers who do the timing while there was this hot guy from the other high school and he was one of the volunteer timers I was just like, oh my gosh and was actually kind of talking to me and I was like, Oh, I was just crushing hard. So what happened was I got so flustered this cute guy that when it came time to do one of the races dove in and just. Started doing the wrong stroke I was doing. When I was supposed to be breastroke now. which made me like way way faster than anybody else breastroke is like the slowest one and that was the one I was supposed to be doing. I. Got like a half of a lap and then I realized. So I kind of just randomly switched back to the. Supposed to be doing and I got out of the pool and they kind of informed me you've been disqualified and I'm like my head like. You know I don't think anyone else nobody talked about it. It was never mentioned again, a lot of people didn't even know it happened great. Everybody's watching something different at a swim meet. Roy. Or maybe I didn't even look at that guy ever again opportunity. Miss I just. Our be. Yeah now, you probably would've handled it. So differently probably would have got back to him and be like, did you see that? You probably would have been on a date with him then. You're confident. GROWNUP self had. Exactly if the Jericho that could fall on her face to the softball game and then catch a pop fly the very yeah. She had done that that would. Out Completely, differently, I had to go through a few those moments and just embarrassed and then realize nobody else cares. So much time worrying about it. I know this is the thing I keep trying to tell my girls when something awful like that happens i. totally feel for them. I don't try to play it down all. I can say sometimes is honey that was the character building moment you'll be better for it in the end I mean, what else can you say? Your parents at the meet. No? No they weren't. So you just had to suffer all alone. Know Being Fifteen I'm sure I didn't want them at the me Oh. Yes. I know I wanted but didn't want. Yeah. Yes. It's very complicated at that age. Relationship with your parents. Oh my gosh. Thank you so much for being willing to tell us those woke up. Now I'm just proud you know badge of honor. Totally, another thing that happens when you start telling people, you're embarrassing stories is not only does it remind you more embarrassing stories but it reminds them of their embarrassing stories and it's like, oh my gosh, I gotTa tell you this one and that one it's it's fun and then everybody just ends up laughing about it and then. You just all realize it really doesn't matter it really funny. Yeah. It's just fun. If life were perfect, it would be pretty boring. Through. Food. What have you been loving lately that you think listeners might love to. Well I have been loving this podcast called losing one hundred pounds with Karen crabtree. Now I don't have one hundred pounds to lose but I do have the CO vid the five, the covid ten whatever that they talk about the covid nineteen yeah exactly. Nineteen but it didn't. Really love about this podcast is it's the only weight loss or fitness type of podcasts. That is really all about the mindset. She doesn't have anything about you know you're supposed to eat this or you're supposed to eat at this time. It's literally like what are the thoughts that are going on in your head? So let's say if you have the evening snacking thing, it's like well, why are you snacking in the evening and it's all About really digging into behind it, it really inspires me a dating coach I can give my clients, tips and tricks, and that is true on like how to do online dating. You know how to do your profile and different things like that but it just comes down to the mindset the motivations behind the behaviors that the mindset about embarrassing stories. Yes. In that baseball game, I could have just crawled into the corner and wanted to disappear. or I could have gotten up, brush myself off and continue. Left. You could have been like I'm out of here by it's almost like you would have inflicted more trauma on yourself and then you had more to deal with absolutely. Oh, that's really interesting. Okay. I'm going to have to check out. What's the best piece of advice you've ever been given? This is something that my mom always said. So write this one down Tattoo on your whatever. Make plans. But don't plan on them and I think it is so deep make plans and have things that you're planning to do and goals and all of that and be willing to be flexible totally changed everything and just be open to stuff kind of hold them loosely. Yeah. Make the plans do the figuring out do the prep work so that if your plan works out, you'll have what you need. But then if things turn on a dime, just go with it I love it. What is one surprising thing about you? No. One would know just by looking this piece about me like being raised by hippies I think people look at me and they just see suburban soccer mom and really the way I grew up with so unconventional that things that my parents did when I was two and my brother was four my parents both quit their jobs and traveled around California in an RV selling candles. Really how interesting? Ed we ended up having those candles around for years. I don't think they sold any kids. Didn't go well. They did make that adventure and then see when I was eight again they quit their jobs they started by selling jewelry on fisherman's warf, and then several years after that, they ended up moving to Washington state and opening a jewelry store here. So they kind of know a little more straight I guess. So that was a progression that you kinda got to watch going to me. That's the normal thing. Maybe it's almost like I. Think it's obvious that everybody else would see things that way. Amazing to me when I'm like Oh you think it's strange that I did this kind sudden that I moved to Germany for two years of it. It's like I just went to Lindor Ebony now I'm back normal, right? Oh. My Gosh that's so great. Okay. Tell the listeners where they can find you and definitely tell them how they can find your Freebie online video instruction for making Internet dating better while I'm everywhere at love coach Erica. So I'm on facebook and instagram and Youtube got a great youtube channel and then my website is love coach Derek Dot com there's just a red button on that page. About online dating training and they can just click on there and scoop it up perfect and I'm going to tell you listeners just in case you don't WanNa have to go to the show notes Jeremiah is J. E. R. I C. A. I will have links in the show notes to all the places where you can find Jerick all my gosh this has been so much fun. Thank you so much for being with me today thanks for the laughs absolutely. 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Emin Gn Sirer - Avalanche - A Better Consensus

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44:19 min | 3 months ago

Emin Gn Sirer - Avalanche - A Better Consensus

"Right now our system even as it is right now and in the wild. It's three times faster than i never thought. I'd say that nobody else can see. This coin. Radio is powered by most belt. Blockchain accelerator and multi dot. Io and we are continuing to reimagine twenty twenty. The following interview was broadcast in december of twenty twenty as part of our version. five point. oh conference welcome back to reimagine twenty twenty hawk average day. I'm glad you joined by mutant severe founder and ceo at avalanche and offs professor. Computer science at cornell. Thanks so much joining us. Thank you so much for having me on all right. Well it's it's great to have you for those viewers of ours. Who who might not be familiar with who you are. You wanna give a little background kind of you who you are and how you got into blotchy store of very quickly. I got into blockchain way before it was a thing way before the term was coined in two thousand and one thousand two. I started building a system called karma so that's seven years or six or seven years before bitcoin. i was working on a cryptocurrency proof of work. Minting in it's i believe it's the first cryptocurrency that minted coins via proof of work. So was doing something. She like things before though she was around except you know he came along six years later he improved on On a substantial portion of of what i had worked on You didn't know about my work. That's okay all the academics about my work. In case so when bitcoin start going big i looked into that further call. I found a with all of the post. Doc at cornell i worked with on for this or we found the biggest known flaw in subtle. She's consensus for something called selfish mining a scheme by which you can make more money than your fair. Share is a minor in bits going. After that i worked on the safety of coins at rest of with things. Like covenants are i worked on All of other things. layer two protocols on characterizing scale ability on characterizing decentralisation but most recently the most exciting thing that i've been working on is for the last few years i've been working on the new system called avalanche and at the core of avalanche lies a new consensus protocol. The likes of which has never been experimented with before that is a far far faster than everything else and we just went main that with avalanche about two months ago with a coin cold of ox and i'm i'm having a blast And my goal now is to just work up the layers to show the world of equivalent breakthroughs at every layer of the stack. Both the consensus layer the da- player and the layers of so. It's been a fun ride for me. Well it's quite quite the resume you have there and before we dive into what you're doing now and where you'd gotten let's talk about where you came from. You mentioned that you had a karma that was two dozen that was before even she before bitcoin and you mentioned he made some improvements upon and i just wanna ask know what. We're what were those improvements that made it so successful. What what were the lessons that he learned that. That would differently if you could. Oh oh there's so many things. I would do differently with the main thing i would do differently is i would time at better. So it was two thousand and two and published in two thousand and three. I think so. Let's see. I don't know how many of your viewers remember those days but I was very young assistant professor. I had discovered this area. I thought whoa this is really cool. And i did karma for For keeping tabs on people in peer to peer file sharing systems nude. I don't if you remember but everybody used to want to download files. Nobody wanted to cede files call. These people leeches. They were leaching off the network. You can never get people to contribute to the common. Good this is. It's a problem for for politics. Texas incentive you gotta get an economic incentive then they work exactly or the hard work they do. So i was like. Why don't they invent some like meaningless internet currency and then you know they have to pay for blocks using that currency and they have to earn that that currency by providing lots so. That was the work that i did in karma and maya might my older mentors. Professors pulled aside and said look. This is cool. It's interesting but you know nine eleven just happened. Everybody's up in arms about terrorist financing and year. You are trying to build some kind of an economy but the heck do you think you're doing. This will never get funding. This is a terrible idea for a young assistant professor. They were right. You know they. They really were right. It was a terrible time at the time for a young assistant professor. And so i kind of you know. Cooled off of the area and i went back in two thousand and after bitcoin came. What would i do differently. And what does she do differently from me so He he has one big brilliant technical breakthrough in karma. I was using what we call the classical consensus protocol. So you would've account. I would have an account and we would have these things called. Bank sets a set of nodes that keep tabs of on the that. Keep the keep track of your account balance and my account balance. They're kind of like banknotes but they're pure peer notes so that's okay and they communicate with each other using classical mechanisms of things you might find in east to all the kinds of protocols and communication. You might find an eoc and so on so this was all like very old school stuff. What sushi did that was brilliant. Is he He used the coin generation scheme based on proof of work he coupled that with the consensus protocol and suddenly he had a different approach to consensus altogether. And that's how he managed to build this thing. That's super robust karma. If it had taken off would not have been as robust so you know it would have been as robust as ripple stellar else to which in my opinion are not very robust systems. So we'll probably have been successful. Nevertheless the other thing that he did really rights though to other things seemed to make he got the timing right. He came right after the two thousand eight crash. The economy tanked. We did not end to this day. I still do not trust the people behind the economy. Lead do not trust the financial system as a result they did crashes every it's just empirically obvious that every decade you got a crash and the so We're overdue for one by the way. And then the other thing. He did that i would do differently. Is he set his sights very high. So i was going for something modest. Something achievable something humble and he was like. I'm here to undo the dollar. I am here to serve as an alternative to the usd and that is a. That's a tall order you know. What are the chances of success with that. It's it's very tough. And i know. I was a real more pragmatic i. I've always been the more pragmatic person. And so especially when i was younger and i was like look. This is in the chief -able goal. I just want to use this thing for for people who are trading files on the internet session. So i will do that differently. Always set the goals of very very high Get the timing right. And and of course. He had that one technical breakthrough. Those kinds of technical breakthroughs. Do not happen all that often. So they are just just so that the viewers know there's a crapton people out there like maybe six thousand coins out there. There are probably hundreds of projects that claim new consensus protocol. there haven't been that many new consensus protocols. All of these are the same stuff out dressed up so in short in the forty five years that distributed systems has been around for the longest time we had classical protocols then came soto. She's protocol call nakamoto consensus. So that was the second big breakthrough in forty five years. And now we have the third big breakthrough with the avalanche processes political. They've only been three big ideas in space and by the way. I'm starting to think that you are secretly. Who realized that after six years of listening to his college professors and mentors said you know what. I'm going to put this out but anonymously and your time did perfectly and you learn from mistakes but but now you've done your third grade achievements which is this new consensus now. I thought that avalanche launch with two sentence engines avalanche and snowman. You want to expand the bed. About how average sure Yeah yeah. I can't a little bit so do you want to to you. Want me to talk about how this works. i can try to make it successful. So there are really three. Approaches to consensus protocols. One of them is the classical approach. Where essentially i want to pass. I want to pass a law. Okay and there has to be some people who decide and all of the classical protocols work by collecting signatures. It's kind of like running parliaments. We on the pass. A law did a super majority of our lawmakers decide that this is a good law. And if you get just got like fifty one signatures out of one hundred senators. That's dangerous one of your senators could be byzantine. He could be. It could be a trickster. He says one thing one day says the other thing the other day then confuses the issue. And you can't tell you gotta get a super majority of these guys and collecting those signatures. Involves every senator every node talking to every other. No and that's why these things don't scale so the best classical algorithm in the best classical protocol is one that was i authored by my students. he i sent him off to the west west coast for a summer. He came back so that this was kind of cool it turns out facebook is going to pick it up and it's used for libra and the blessed protocol in that in that family is intended to be used by about one hundred validates years so mark zuckerberg an ninety nine of his best friends. So these things don't scale there really like for the fragile. They can break it. Down comes nakamoto. He comes with this mining idea labor that point there many explanations of how that works. It's an arms race. All these miners are trying to add blocks to a chain. And that's fine of so. The avalanche for the coal works is substantially different. And they'll let me try to give you an analogy. Suppose we want to achieve consensus and we're not in a tiny little senate with one hundred people of we don't even know who's in the senate okay. We're going to be. Let's say we're in the stadi- giants stadium like the one in brazil. Hundred thousand people more. Okay boasted i know some people that are you know some people. I see you with your hats in the crowd. You know that's cool gonna going and a hundred thousand of us but we don't know everybody precisely. We can't know everybody precisely. We don't want protocol that requires us to know everybody precisely okay and if we were using classical i would have to ask everybody and everybody would have to ask everybody's one hundred thousand square. That's a really large number of messages for the decisions. We don't wanna do that. So what i do is i do. The same thing. Repeatedly is a very simple thing. And it turns out this achieves consensus so here is what. So what's what's what's actually scenario here. Suppose we're trying to decide if If alice paid so there to transactions alice says one dollar she paid. she says. I'm here by paying. Bob and i'm here by being charlie. So she is doing something really really questionable. She is doing a double spent. And we as a collective should say bob. You got paid charlie. You did not or vice versa. We don't care how it turns out but we gotta pick one of these two so this protocol works as follows. I pick like three people in the audience in the giants stadium. I say yo. Y'all gonna and jimbo and jane You know which one do you favor right now should should do you think alice faye bob board. You think i was paid. Charlie and they come back with responses and a simplified simplify. Let's just say red and blue for the two transactions. They say red red blue. And i go okay. Looks to me like the crowd. Based on my sub sampled votes. The crowd is tending towards. Read right now now. I might be wrong for notes of the stadium full of blues. And i picked the three red people lena. This is what samples. So i flipped my color to what i sample and you do the same while i do this. And it turns out and this is the magic part. There is a very strong proof. That says that in a very small number of rounds. If i repeat this process we will all take the same color. Now that's if everyone's asking three people if enough people ask three random people in the crowd that majority will eventually with enough rounds. We'll get finality exactly. And it's so bizarre it's like why wouldn't it. Just be a mix of colors right but if you think about it you know. What's the worst that can happen. The worst is it's a fifty fifty mix of colors after one round of this. It's incredibly unlikely. To be an exact fifty fifty mix because of random variation. Some people will sample read. Some people will sample blue or for all one color will have a slight majority then the next round it. There'll be more of it. Why because we started with more of that color and then the next round around. It's going to be even more and then suddenly now imagine for example towards the very end if if if there's only one read left than the next round he'll turn blue for short because whoever is not going to get loose so you can see how this thing goes towards the end it speeds up a lot and then then you suddenly find yourself having converged and a so. This is a phenomenon known as meta stability we created a system that is unhappy when it's an intermediate states and when it's all one color then it super happy it takes a lot of effort vice impossible to get it numerous once. We've decided read. We're done like nothing can make me flip because all my friends i read i keep asking them. They say red. I go back to read so So that's the informal description. The math is it hairy and complex but Yeah i'm i'm sure i'm sure mathematical crazy. Probably wave way beyond way beyond this conversation but at the end the date we started off this conversation with with with the economic incentive every system needs economic incentive. You said that the the problem with government and no one wants to do good. No one wants to be cedar and so in the scenario. Where's the economic incentive. Only the people who vote the correct color get get the reward. Is that if i say and really balloons the final color i lose out whereas the naked economic sensitive to pick the right color the economic incentives come from your your investment your stake in the overall overall system so to participate. What you need to do is you need to hold some of ocsta- kits so without that then are there are two problems one is. You don't have any skin in the game and the other one is that you can pretend to be you know brazilian janas and me and my friends will will get divorced by the presence of all these guys in santa hats and and every time we ask you you can then steer us in in any kind of direction so we need to make sure that you cannot overrepresented yourself and the way we do that is by by forcing you to acquire what we call a steak and so those things are at the roots of a of a security for for any blockchain of but also a for also for avalanche because avalanches proof of system. So i don't get why. Why is this system of the breaking it down into threes or whatever the focus may be why is that better than traditional proof of stake system. Where you're you know. People have the same economic incentive taking validated. Because if you try to use any other protocol other than avalanche of it will be slower than avalanches so long for example ethereal to is a classical protocol. It takes if it works next year sometime when it works. It's going to take five seconds to make decision and in every decision there will be up to at most two hundred and fifty nodes involved and more than likely it'll be fewer than there so so that's That's that's that's that's the best to come. It doesn't scale it's scales. What you're saying is that it kicked gives you the same security as all these proven other consensus with the scale ability. I so i don't remember off hand. You probably do but there was. I remember seeing is really high. Transactions per second in really quick transaction finality types exactly right so transactions per second avalanche are We've gotten in the lab numbers as high as nineteen thousand tps but now our system even as it is right now and in the wild. It's three times faster than visa. I never thought i'd be able to say that nobody else can see. This finality is less than a second. It's about three hundred milliseconds. Which is a slow. I blinked so at the time i do this. The whole system globally across the world involving knows in australia. Russia shine a europe at cetera makes a decision. It's insane how fast it is and you can't get these speeds of while the any other protocol and The other thing to note of course is it's open. Any number of people can participate. So that's that's put puts it in a different class. So i can have millions of participants in the avalanche berlin coal and nobody else can get anywhere close and for having an honest conversation we can only focus on on the incredible pros. Because you know this. There's no downside here so what what are the. What are the possible. Risks or potential downsides because it seems like this should beat out every blockchain at all use cases. It should be speaking technical grounds. Let me let me talk to you. About the potential downsides discretion a lot there while it seems like this is just better in every way Shouldn't there be some trade off right over nazi thing they say and If you people have been you know this is very I don't know what the different people have been taught that you can't get something for nothing that got every new thing. I must have downside. And that's generally not true rights like a bulldozer is much better than a shovel. It's on every earthmoving metric. It's better has the downside that it needs guests so let me give you the downside for avalanche. It's a new protocol. it's a of the implementation from scratch and so it's brand new and we will need to shake out a lot of the corner cases allowed the unknowns of this new way of approaching consensus so if one were to use nakamoto consensus different deal right very well understood protocol and if one more to do what east to is trying to do okay. That's eath to starting to charlotte which is also not well understood. But if you're to try to do what is doing now. Does incredibly well understood. No risks there. And we're not doing that. We're doing something riskier. So there are technological risks here. There's also the risk that the proofs are flawed. Let you know we think this thing is going to converge ward because of mistaken the proof. I think this is highly unlikely but it is a possibility so there are a lot of unknowns that come with you know having built a big difference rocket and in his far faster better than all the other rockets that came before it. So that's cool. It works right now. It's been out two months. So that's kinda neat. But i do expect to see low corner cases and issues. Come up in the future and what people don't realize. This is something that often comes up in my conversations. Listen like you mentioned. This is a new protocol. And you're still working on the king. So like i always said that he was a first mover. So for for smart contract enabled blockchain. And they've been so successful. There's all these defy all values built upon it but it's exactly all that value that is hindering them in hamstring them from from innovating. Because they're scared they're scared to watch you know the skier to move all these assets onto the internet because it's so valuable if a bug if there's an issue they don't wanna lose all that value so it's actually opened up a huge opportunity for new protocols such as your own that don't burdened. Oh shit if i if i fuck up this one this one letter here. It's gonna all goes five hundred billion dollars you actually have the ability and the freedom to innovate here. So i think if a wonderful opportunity and i would say that you're truly are competing against a two point. Oh not really want exactly rights. I love heath one. Oh i absolutely loved. I consider myself an essential part of the theorem community. I was the number five most influential person in the therion. For a long time blah blah blah their whole bunch of metrics. I love ethereal. one. I think theory of to has flaws. I've told you it's alec this multiple times over the years and So i think what we're doing is is is a way to hedge. We want to make sure that if ice here to stay we want to make sure that defy grows and supplants wall st louis better technology so so yeah and we have an opportunity. We have a window open in front of us and it seems like right now. The name of the game is compatibility. Is this idea of building financial building blocks and cross train interoperability. How will avalanche play. Nice with other blockchain's we'll we'll be able to be cross chains and things of that nature absolutely absolutely. We just announced the maybe two days ago. our first of across chain bridge. So it's quite easy to to to move assets from other other chains to us and vice versa. I'm looking forward to wrapped ox on other chains to be used as collateral of. What else are we doing. We're doing a house so many things. I can't even keep tabs on what we have announced than what still in the works. But we are here to play nicely. I think one of the main things that i have is a commitment to science. And we're not maximalist. We don't think there's going to be a single winner. Takes all is going to be a fun. Area theorem is doing really well. Which i'm very happy to see defy projects scale which i'm happy to provide. They need low fees which we were very happy to provide and We are here to make sure that the space succeeds overall. And i want to pick your brain because you actually wear two hats. Not just starting to incredible portico but you're also a computer science professor at cornell And so as an educator yourself you know. I wonder how does how does one educate on a topic. Innovate so fast. How do you make a curriculum. When by the by the by the time when wrote it down in your office two by the time you get to the classroom to teach you to put on the board. It's ready dated it's ready. You know how does what teach how does what to teach blockchain when indicates quickly such a good question. And nobody really yeah. I didn't think anybody really understood my pain. I got you my man. I got you know there are really two big problems. One of them is what you said. It's changes so quickly. And we. I find myself Teaching out of the white papers of blog post that are just rolling off the shelves and the the state of practice is so far ahead of of the cutting edge of research that Deploying these contracts that are that are poorly understood and other people are pouring in billions into those contracts. So it's it's pretty risky pretty crazy. So that's one issue of but it also has its upside you know is so easy to motivate the students. You just say look you now. You're assam code. Oh you see this little problem. It looks correct right but because of a you know because they forgot swap these two lines. They lost a third of the money that they collected fifty. Three million dollars were stolen by by one person out of their house because of the dow heck and So it's really it's a. It's both a motivator and the source of excitement for for young students also a challenge for the educators. But that's good to have the educators should be challenged not the students should students should revolted the second problem which is even bigger. And this is actually a real problem is the space is so broad and an interdisciplinary. So really to really excel at at one has to have mastered computer science economics game theory mechanism design and must have a very good very good understanding of social processes so this is really hard to find and they have to understand business workflows just so hard to find a. I tried to compensate for my own shortcomings by inviting people to come in lecture and So we've had. I think cornell is consistently the school with the most number of courses and and so so that's been that's been fun and yet but keeping abreast of changes in. Excitement has not been easy. Well that accident just naturally leads me into my next question. Because that is such an important part here where the unique thing about this blockchain space and how it's evolved. It really is requires a broad knowledge. Base you need to be that cutting edge of computer science but also cutting edge of financial products and also game theory. And there's so much going on there so my question to you is actually a two-fold. Nah i guess. I'll break it a break. Them up actually the first question. I which heart of that you think is holding back. The others as in is the computer science not there yet or has no one thought of the proper financial Tool to innovate yet. Or is it the no one has has gotten the game theory there yet. What is that one aspect in this whole very broad knowledge base. That's holding back the others so until recently it was the computer science. The consensus brother calls we were using. Were just too slow. The architecture that people were using for their chains where all copies of nakamoto omotoso original work so one coin one system one virtual machine. And i think we've broken through both of those barriers with avalanche and we didn't know governance. We understand governance and So avalanches fixed. Think these three issues. So avalanches fast and scales it. It is flexible that supports more than one virtual machine and it's an enabler for other people to issue their coins on so you can use the underlying this hard work that we did putting together a consensus engine. You can just use it and build your own systems on top and and it has governance built into it so your systems are stuck with some parameters on the day of their creation. So that was that was then That was about two months ago so talk about the fast moving field sunday. We have I think we have. The technological foundations moved up. I never thought we would be faster while being decentralized than visa. We have that sort of the next problem is that we are in was oriented defies an immortal oriented game two to really accelerate defy. You have to have mastered ethereal internals and you have to know how to take your money and send it through the thirty seven different steps to get yield that you want with the flash loan in the middle and whatnot so so that's fine for us but it's just not gonna take off mainstream like that so the next level i think is going to have to be a projects that are outwards orient and from zacks since day one. We've always been outwards. I've always been out with outweighs oriented The reason why. I'm not a maximalist is because value. Trapped in crypto. Right now is tiny is less than a trillion. So it's like it's not that much money at the end of the day the amount of assets that could be traded on blockchain isn't the many digits of trillions and instead we're like we're now fighting on all these maxi's fighting over scraps table scraps essentially. Let them do it. That that's fine. It keeps them occupied. Gives them something to do. Maybe but but my eyes are set on getting into crypto all of these assets that mainstream is currently using really retrograde systems to trade. And that's going to change the world These new assets should be easy to use. That's going to change the world. The if you copying commotto calcium has done and everybody else has done. What you'll end up with is a system. That's really hard to to deal with for normal normal people and that's one of the things that we're going to be changing with the our next upgrades and avalanche coming up in the few weeks Now first off. I don't get out of bed for less than one trillion dollars. I mean what is what is less than a one trillion dollars of the two of. I think you brought up a really good point there. This idea of inward facing and outward facing and i think that you you have a really good mindset because like you mentioned a lot of people are just copying in iterating of han. What's the to- she did. Which is great and works in effective But it's also led us to this point where it's like in our in at least in my mind as a block chain crypto holder. It's like blockchain's great has all these benefits. It's decentralized and it's low transaction fees and yada yada yada but in my mind also. It's harder to us because blockchain. It's it's more confusing because blockchain but it's nice to think that can actually break out of that mold if we do things slightly differently think in really put it into work in and build new consensus models. That might not require that. So you're saying with avalanche. Be get to that point. Because i think for the mainstream adoption really to happen. They can't do that. It's blocking it doesn't have to matter that blockchain the mainstream does not care what technologies behind the scenes. They don't care about the idol logical reasons behind it. They just want a system. That's quicker faster. Is you're better and so. Are you going to be able to do that. With avalanche is being built in a way that you don't need to have crypto knowledge. You don't need to jump through hoops in loops and well exactly so arthur c. Clarke has this squad as as many people now that any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. And like you said. We will have succeeded when people are using these systems based on blockchain's without realizing that they're using a system based on the blockchain. So if you have to install madame ask if you have to worry about fees if you have to worry about a fee that's too low and sawn than you we've already lost the game and the avalanche. When we came out two months ago we came out with a with a essentially. A solid foundation is bu but i think we came out with a that's inherited quite a bit also from you know the bitcoin model but what we're going to do in the next. Few weeks is a new upgrade. That's going to fundamentally change. A few things. It will be possible to bring up a note and connect to the latest state of the blockchain in the jiffy. So you come up. And it's not like multiple days of sinking up to the blockchain. It just happens like this. And you're caught up where you will not have to worry about fees. The fees are just going to be predictable and and they should be low for a long time to come Because of the high speed of the system so these two factors put us in a very very interesting territory. I think because suddenly you can use these things interact with them without having to worry about about a fee without what the fee level ought to be you know how long it takes to connect to the system and so forth. So so yeah. We're making a lot of progress on those fronts. I also was the one who added to blockchain's the ability to withdraw funds after a theft. So if you come and take my funds. I can recall them from you But if i do make a payment to somebody than i cannot take back my payments so this is something called covenants again work with. It's a all who is now a professor at the at the technion and and so these are the kinds of things that are necessary for For general adoption people want to be able to say. Hey look. I pressed the wrong button or whether want to be able to To not impact finality but also be able to compensate for mistakes so there are a lot of usability improvements that we can do that idea of being able to get back the thefts but not the purchase. It was the one that built upon that someone has to input a code within a certain timeframe or the transaction reverts. Exactly that's executive like it's it's called covenants exact very smart solution when i when i read i. I saw the headline open revert. Now you allow each transactions through it was also. Bitcoin transactions as well and i was like i was like i'll click on this and then that's a really really smart resolution so i i tip my hat to you. That's that's that's a really really clever. And i hope that gets more adoption that condoms. Who comes to the standard because it does provide a great fix and easy. Fix a four for this At this point does it have to be manually. Inputted the the the password free transaction. No they want to be. So there are multiple implementations of this so use these covenants to build vaults and there are multiple volt implementations. The typical ones are like when you put your coins into storage. You vote them when you take them out. Then you take the nothing. Everything is good if somebody steals the coins in your volt. That's the only time you do something special you go in and say hey that guy i know something. He doesn't take the coins back from him. You just stole them from the very cool. So yeah i do love that nine. I appreciate you constantly. Innovate i just talk about blockchain. But you're actually building a part in creating and improving it. So i appreciate it. You want to talk about You didn't mention that you're also proving on avalanche. You have the first major update coming apricot. A believe it's due out next what should use expect off from medford so it's going to be mostly transparent of so they will not notice thing if all goes well and i hope will go well of following apricots. They should see incredibly improved sink. Times some nodes should just come up and and immediately sync up of following apricot. They should also notice that. Fees are dynamic and and change based on usage of the blockchain and and that the fees are predictable for long periods of time. So that's going to be a And also of there. There are other some other surprises in there as well. I don't want to reveal just yet but but related to ease of use of the chain. They should be able to interact with the chain without realizing that they're interacting with the chain. So and yeah that that feat that fees. A ideas really great. I mean i as the price of bitcoin explodes. Then more just regular people a newbies fomo in my brother the other day he bought. You bought a crypto for the first time and i was trying to buy some on using union soi for theory and he set the transaction and he said i never went through or went through hours later. I said well how much how much transaction fee do you put. He's like what do you mean and it just this idea of like there's just too much it's great for power. I do like the idea that there is the option for us power users in adopters to be able to to to put in our fees wine in really have power but if he wanted to go mainstream if you want just regular people to use it you cannot overwhelm them with options and overwhelmed them with settings an fees and so that is a great idea as well. You know one last question. I because i do think that you're uniquely able to answer this. We spoke a little bit about the idea education. And that's really what this conference is about. The blockchain education alliance is about we. It's really important to know the more we educate the public about this unless we have to dumb down the proudest but also it's good in the helps then use it as well and it helps adoption. I'm so when we're talking that in today's world whether whether you're pro were against it the the main source of education as it stands traditionally has been formal education in higher education as universities. And so right now if you're trying to to educate the i don't know the masses. They were educated. Use about blockchain technology. Do think that is best. Taught in educated in a formal setting versus non formal setting and then on top of that if it is a formal setting because it's so broad because we mentioned all the different aspects and disciplines that required do think that it should be its own degree or should it be a class on offer for hey. I'm a computer science student. And i want to take an elective. So i'll take a blockchain. Clap yeah good questions. So i generally think that formal settings provide the best infrastructure for efficient learning. I know that It's not because of the education in educators. What have what the educators to. It's because you have a support infrastructure and you have a set of colleagues that that are at the same level as you are That are going through the same same s- process with you to whom you can be like. Hey yo i'm stuck here. How do you do this. How what what does this mean etc so. That experience is invaluable. Every time i learned something you know. I know how hard i worked to learn things on my own versus how hard you know. How much less. I had to work when i had people learning the same material with me. So i'm always in favor of structured settings of and It's because of this. This peer group peer support network that forms and the s four degrees. I don't think yeah. I do believe that. Of course as i said blockchain's our supervisor disciplinary of. But i'm not a big fan of any any field branching out on its own unless it's really really big so i don't believe in the blockchain degree i think one should get a computer science degree or an economics degree or a math degree You know whatever the case might be but But the blockchain degree sounds to specific Most people end up not working in the field that they thought they would when they were years old. But you start out at eighteen. i don't add. I thought i was going to work in computer science. Which i do now. I thought i was going to work in operating systems. I'm now often cryptocurrencies. Everybody else i know has done. Career changes what you want to be in. Command of is a large large area near the big spectrum of tools that you can bring to any problem so learning about locking fantastic. You'll end up learning about mechanism design about econ about math about About distributed systems. These are widely very useful. Going forward But specializing in the this to the exclusion of other material. I think is a bad idea. So it's like designing a balanced meal right so we love our. You know crazy failed. Diet right now maybe But it's things change so you should have a more balanced diet when you're in school. We've sampled every food and then later on. You can specialize if you like. I mean i really appreciate you taking the time to tell that. You're a skilled educator as well as valuable very knowledgeable in the field potentially so she. I don't know i'll let your viewers a decide that but i mean i really appreciate you taking the time a helping kind of explained kind of both the background and the basis for what makes of work as well as a unique solution avalanche very excited to see what comes from it. Apparently there's no downside. So i'm excited the hop board. I'm going to get an early. I'm getting an early people. Talk about bitcoin and a dollar getting avalanche. I'm getting an early baby before anyone joke. Come check out our community on that you'll love it a severi narrow and where where where could people interested in avalanche worker. They come check it out They can just go to offer labs dot org and or a. Vox dot network that. Those are good. Starting places labs org is a very good one with the documentation to a everything about the system. I really appreciate taking the time. And i'm sure if you're is due to and for all our viewers here at reimagined twenty twenty. I'm yonaha kawser. Happy holiday you're tuned into bitcoin. Radio bringing you the latest and greatest innovations in crypto blockchain and the future of financial technology. Bitcoin radio is brought to you by reimagined twenty twenty powered by mouse belt blockchain accelerator and multi dot iso a margin. I know currency exchange. Be sure to follow us on twitter at btc. Underscore radio subscribe to our youtube channels to stay. 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"If you haven't heard about anchor. It's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain it's free. There's a creation tool that allows you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or computer anchor will distribute your podcast for you. So it can be heard on spotify apple podcast and many more. You can make money from your podcast with no minimum listening ship. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place. Download the anger apt or go to anchor. Dot FM. To. Get. started. Get ready for an hour filled with conspiracies. UFO's ghost the paranormal legends and myths from around the world chasing prophecy radio or the paranormal is supernatural with your host. Sean Kelly Jenny Nicasio. Welcome to the chasing prophecy radio and hear your host Sean and Jenny. You're. Good evening from the keystone state welcomed the chasing prophecy on the UFO Paranormal Radio Network One oh, seven point one FM NEW ORLEANS. US anything and everything on the scope of normal I'm Jenny Nicasio along with my co host Sean Kelly remember to like us on facebook and instagram. Great to be with you this evening while there's so much going on in the paranormal world, you seen SEAN THE NEW JERSEY ufo video. have. Okay. The your phone video going viral on Youtube and facebook said they debunked it saying it was a blimp. Okay. But. Was it. Really I. Mean I looked at it doesn't times what about you? I looked at it and I did some research on the Goodyear Blimp and last flight that was taken was March fourteenth in the year two, thousand seventeen. And what else was pretty crazy about the video was that they all these cars parked on the side of the road looking at dismissing. An see to me personally what I feel is that it was definitely a UFO was in. Military. Helped was a UFO. There's a lot of military bases there the fact that it wasn't. Like a blimp I mean didn't look like unless they unless they have a new design and like you said, they quit doing that years ago. and. It was near the Giants Stadium in New Jersey and they were they said they were filming there. Okay. Well, it's on the other side a good ten miles away. To, and you you said thousands of people they pulled over and on the highway to check it out and you know what a blimp looks like. I've seen them hundreds of times years ago I have not seen one blimp. Like you said in years so they retired the blip. So not telling the truth I'm not buying it. Off Either. So, moving on a little bit. Let's talk about your investigations this past weekend and you had an investigation where was that new Brighton. Cemetery and pass near Pittsburgh. Yes grow cemetery in new Brighton. About fourteen, miles. Away from Pittsburgh and. We had a lot of people there this week at that we. How many how many? How many do you have on your investigation? I would have to say close to fifteen people sounds like a good one and what will your results? Well Jason. Caught to shadow. In cemetery that was the big one. Oh. and. You can check out on art chasing prophecy facebook page I seen that, and that was really creepy. Yeah surprise. He's all excited because it's his first one ever. Look totally like a shadow person I mean dark and it was. Didn't didn't look like it didn't look like an apparition like a ghost look channel person so. It can be time travelers. Could be could be in dimensional beans. Could. COULD BE I think it's great that he called him? I'm glad he caught it. He seemed excited last time we spoke How how about the recent news I? Don't know if you saw this but. This is a paranormal, but in fact, our environment in our What do you call those rhythms? Oh, come on. You know what I'm talking about. Dubai. Got Brain freeze. Well they're talking about passing a bill to away with daylight savings time. Twenty twenty one or it seems like it's ridiculous I mean if you're going to do that, why don't you just do it forever? Why? We mean twenty twenty already screwed up enough. Okay. So they're going to try to make twenty twenty one and he's just as bad. I mean just don't do it or or just leave it the way it is burnell and don't bother with the clock because it's messes me up. You know messes my rhythms out my bio. I know what it is. I'M GONNA. Wait. We'll figure it out I. Know What it is but to me like halfway through the ship. But yeah, like, why don't you just leave it alone? So something like I said, somebody weird things have been happening and I am going for our first letter from one of our listeners. Last week, we got a letter from young man who was camping and saw strange tall thin creature was sparse hair in bald spots. Okay. So I was really doing some research on and I came across an article from mysterious universe. That's what it's called and it's entitled thoughts on Dog Man Okay. This sounds like what he was describing What they are strange creatures that are flesh and blood animals might be creatures of a supernatural type dog. Or they could be any strange combination of the two and the phenomenon largely began they said in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety one and that was the people. I, don't know if you know any of this city of Alcorn. Wisconsin and which has they said there's a population of eleven thousand. Bell these people were swamped. They were swamped by reports, a creatures that early sound like where wolves. So the Dogma aware of in other words I think they look like wolves but they stand on their. Hind legs, and they have the UNCANNY sinister even ability to walk and this is what this guy. I can't recall I. Think his name was Ed said. But this thing did was standing on his hind legs looking at him and the only thing that I didn't read about this one. It said that he said the is were a piercing red. And as far as I, know as far as these people in the Arctic articles knows there's no such thing. No, no. Animal exists like that. That hasn't but that hasn't stopped numerous people reporting that they seen these creatures Sean. So I'm not sure if he listened to the video that I did, what are your thoughts on the Doghmane? It was whenever I got the the word but we were and talk about the dog man I checked that and I did some research on it Not A lot. and to me okay I'm on offense with Jenny. You're not really sure. Own. I don't know I think it's like another cryptic creature like a big four but. Like. I said years ago I saw something like that up my bay window when I was a kid and I saw something with the piercing red eyes. But you're not you're not sure about that. No I'm. Not. I. Mean. If they heard the howling, I'm sure Alcorn Wisconsin has a wolves. were. Wolves don't stand on their hind legs delay. True I've never seen one. We'll have to anybody out there sever seen or heard somebody living in a like one of the national parks. If you've ever seen anything like that, please drop us an email at chasing prophecy radio at GMO DOT com. So it seems not only that there are these reports on these cryptic creatures, but in the paranormal world more and more people are claiming to be abducted. Okay. and. They wake up in the middle of the night and they wake up in their bedrooms in disarray. Okay. And they find strange markings on their body and I remember I showed you showed me pictures of one of your. It was an investigation and she had these scratches on her back. Okay. And the more I think about it I thought of what happened to me not to hold ago I woke up recently from a loud noise in my bedroom and woke me up and I was scared for because it was a crashing sound in my bedroom. and. When I woke up, I noticed a picture my wall had fallen down and hit my mom my glass table. But. When I was getting dressed that morning Sean, there were three scratches on my back and I freaked me out. Okay. So that's from getting too. So these three in arose through scratches. And our guest tonight may know if this if what that creature was. In the woods that this young man saw our dog men's or even what happened to me my bedroom with the scratches and the sloughed You, know noise and. Out Excuse me sleeping I hate soon, erupt anything but speaking of sleep disturbances, Brian, sharpe, Lewis, who was on our show a number times he's a contributor. he wants to let everyone if you're having a problem with sleep insomnia that he's doing an organized lecture through the professors on Pints, and there's a link on my chasing prophecy facebook page and you can check that out too But the sleep disturbances insomnia. Shadow people. always a store next guest and this evening chasing prophecy we have D- Manala just reverend Terry Lynch Kale I think that's how you say her name. Terry. All killed. I got a little bit right. Terry has faced off with demons. For years and in the underworld that troll about the IRS seeking to Roland, our souls and she's a leader of all things paranormal and the unknown and has been a guest on many radio shows TV shows explaining about her encounters with strange and her combat with the underworld. She's She's wearing the battles and Terry is also the author of an Eva called alien healing for word four weren't Terry's. Warning guys. Cherry stories may have you keeping the lights on tonight so I just want to let you know. So you might want to grab some popcorn and blankets and curl up on a nice easy chair and join us terry welcome to chase prophecy. Thank you. That's a great be here were so excited Sean and I are really excited to have you here. I've been reading your blog and watching videos on yes. On Youtube you've been all over the world investigating paranormal anonymous with your husband I. think that's your husband. It is right. Okay. So we're so glad to have you on the show. What got you interested in the paranormal UFO's and demons. Well. Initially, I wasn't interested at all. It just kept happening to me in it started at such a very young age for me five years old I started remembering things. Right, from the beginning and I would try to discuss it with my parents and even my older sister and no one seemed to be able to identify with me and what was happening. And being that we were a family that you know went to church My parents were Catholics. Bay just couldn't wrap their minds around the things that I would tell them, and so I grew up alone in all of this and just had to deal with it by myself. Wow. That's it has to be horrifying for a five year old. It was very horrifying. The first thing that I saw as a five year old was while I was playing outside my siblings were all playing baseball. I wasn't a big baseball person but I was out there doing that and I kept hearing my name called and I heard my name at least three times just terry and and it was a man's voice. So I thought it was my father and I kept looking up at the house. And we had a tri level home in nominee false wisconsin and he wasn't standing at the door. He wasn't standing by the window. He wasn't anywhere to be seen and I kept turning around and looking like where is he and then I saw something in the sky moving and as I looked up, all my siblings were running off to play in a field down the street and I stood there staring at this being in the sky. Scared the bejesus autumn I went running into the house screaming and telling my father there's a man standing. In the Sky I don't think they're supposed to stand on the sky or men splits Astana on the sky. There's a man in the sky. And my dad just said, okay. Okay. Go Wash up and get ready for dinner. So. We knew was it like an apparition sky was home? No no this was a fully clothed man. He had a drape on him. It looked like he was in a robe it had blue on it He was. He was as real as if you saw somebody standing next to you you know outside on the sidewalk he was. He was wearing blue and a K he was wearing a blue robe and there was white on the robe I don't remember names like. It was very interesting but he was he was a white man with long longer hair blond hair. I don't remember the fear gripped me. So it kind of put me into a shock period. You know I was like shocked. You don't see that in the Sky I mean you've heard this and that, but you don't see a man and he was really high high up as a matter of fact, a few years ago I went back to that property and took a picture in the sky where I I saw that as a child and he was pretty high up, but he started coming down at me. which was beyond frightening for me and I started running towards the House and you know the rest of it. I just told you I wrote that on my on my blog as well. I had to live with that and deal with that because no one would would talk to me about it basically. But. I have come to find that. That was just my my wakeup call. The rest of my life was going to get much crazier and it was like. Things happening to me were preparing me for where I believe it was God God wanted me to go you know. So you know here I am all these years later and I can honestly tell you I've seen things that will curl my own hair. It was very hard to to live through deal with and even share with people because it it was hard to wrap my own mind around what my own is worth seeing. And the fear that I had to overcome through different circumstances that I went through with these different demons, actual physical human demons. That were would just be in my home and these different things that were happening. Nobody no one at church could identify with me. Nobody could walk me through it. Nobody could give me information nobody helped me. It was just a process until one day. I think you've probably read about the demon that came into the room. And it looked like someone I knew I thought I was talking to somebody I knew. You know tell you. About that. Would you saw and how you found trump Sure. Sitting on my bed in my house, I had two kids they were at school and I had sat down just for a minute and I. Saw something out of my peripheral vision in my left eye near the doorway and. I looked over there and standing in my doorway was a man that I had been engaged to about six years earlier and I looked at this man standing there and I went John What are you doing? In my house, I couldn't believe it I. I. Mean I was shocked all of a sudden. He was just standing there. He had on Blue Jeans Karachi sandals yen on a t shirt. His hair was the way I had always seen him. He was a human form one, hundred percent. You could not see through him. And I was I had never seen that before like that other than the man standing in the sky but I didn't focus on him much because I was so frightful. Just. So fearful. So anyway, he's standing there and he doesn't answer me but he gives me this really strange look and then I was like John. What are you doing in my bedroom? And you know how? All the obvious questions that would come to your mind. And then all of a sudden something happened that was be on the realm of. I don't even know how to say it was so strange and he started. Looking at me and his face began to change from that of what I knew as this man that I used to be engaged to and the cared a lot about John and it started changing and fear gripped me. So profoundly, I could not even move my hands. I couldn't move my head or my body and it was even a little frightening. You know to even look at it and I was trying to pull my eyes away from it because the fear was so great and I was sitting on the bed and he was literally less than four feet from me So as I'm watching him. I I am trying very, very hard to just call for the Lord I was trying to call for Jesus and the power that this entity had. Let me tell you these demons people mess with them it just it's unbelievable. There's like seducing spirits they. Have Power and I could not think I could not think of the name of Jesus I couldn't. I kept saying I I. I've been Christian for how long I? What was his name? What is what was his name, and then I heard now this is really a beautiful thing from. All of a sudden I heard. Spell his name. And I thought okay. That didn't come from the demon that came from another source that was with me while I was fighting this battle and I thought okay. Spells name. I think I think it starts with maybe a maybe a I don't know. Is it a J. J.? I. Think There's a J in there and all of a sudden my mind's eye I saw the J.. and. Then I thought of, I don't know I don't know what his name is I should know it. You know I mean I was only on the worship team. Okay and I I'm thinking I. I don't know and then I thought wait I. Think there's an in there and then I put I put the E in there. and. Then I saw J. E.. I. Was I was still clueless and then eventually I saw the ass. And when I looked at the S, it was J. E. S. and I went I know there's a you and there there's a you you and then I went she's asked and the it I did that the minute I said that name, which is why I am very much into doing things this way. When I said that name that demon went into a tornado spin which I had never seen anything like that either scared me to death but all the sudden. I saw the back of my own head. Rise out of my body and take authority over my spirit being took authority over that. Demon. And my arm, my left arm pointed towards the door. And he was reading my mind and I was saying get out. Well. He did that torn NAT. Spirit. Going I'm you about a hundred miles an hour and a spin and the craziness of the face that was in that spin was still there. But I wasn't afraid in the same way but I was still very fearful. It ran down the hall it left my room ran down the hall into my children's bedroom and slammed the door and I mean it slammed the door. It sounded like my damn door was going to come off the hinges and I got up and ran out of the House I ran into the front yard jumping up and down all by myself on the on the brick by my front door and I was just jumping up and down going. Oh. My God. Oh, my God what Sti- l. was that and oh can I say that? Yes. And and I'm just like you gotta be kidding me, you gotta be kidding me and I thought why do you make me go through these things? Why do you allow me to go through these things? I mean who in the heck wants to go through this and then and then all of a sudden it came to me after jumping up and down and ranting and raving you know math the Lord about this experience that he allowed me to go through because I believe nothing can happen to me that he doesn't allow. so He allowed it to teach me something and I'm like a WHO wants to learn this lesson you know and and then all the sudden. I thought Oh my God. That thing is still in my children's bedroom. Not. Go back in the House and I'm like Oh no, no, no I was I was happy to sit outside until my husband came home. And I thought Oh my God I gotta go back in there. The kids will be coming home from school and so. This is just such a beautiful story, but it was so frightening. So I opened the door and it was broad daylight by the way broad daylight. It was like what almost three o'clock the kids would be coming home any time it was like two, forty five. So and I'm in Florida it's hot it's broad daylight. Anti, turn the lights on in the living room. And I opened the door and turn the lights on and leave the front door wide open and I'm just going. Okay. I've got to get over to that. I've got to get in that room. I've got to get that thing out of there I have to face somehow or other, and I'm shaking like a leaf and and I'm thinking Oh God please. Help me please help me and then I walk up the steps into my dining room and I've got to go through the dining room into my little office area to get to their bedroom, and then down the hall and I'm like Oh my God. I'm so scared Oh God, please, and the whole time I'm just begging for mercy I'm begging for help. Something happened when I put my hand on that door KNOB. I was not afraid. I have ever been a trade again, I had gone through the Valley of the shadow will. Fear No evil and believe you me I did not fear evil by the time my hand hit that Doorknob I had. Walked myself through the gravest of fears. and. I was so powerful something came on me. It was like I got a dose of the Holy Spirit or something and I opened that door and I was ready to slay the living bejesus out of that thing and when I went in the room, there was nothing air, and so I walked all all back and forth in the room and Mike just ended it out in the name of Jesus get Outta my house stay out of my house. And you would think with monarch entities that that would be enough. But. It isn't they do come back they do taunt you. They do fight you. It was gone for almost six months and then one night my son Joshua. Came into my room shaking hordley shaking and screaming, crying telling me Mommy Mommy a man in my room and I thought Oh crown. So I I threw him in my bed and I got up and I headed down that hall and I thought you so be I mean I was angry and my other son Jason was still in that room sleeping. So I'm like, Oh, my God these spirits. That's why when people call me and say they have a problem with the spirit with their children I'm out the door and in the car I'm headed to their home because these spirits can be so. Malevolent they can actually be vicious and they if they have power than they're very dangerous and if somebody like me in the beginning is nothing but scared, they will taunt you and taunt you. But if someone like me who has gone through this and is no longer afraid of them, they're afraid of me now know I'm going in there and I'm looking for them so. Anyhow. This was such. A beautiful thing for me because never again was I afraid and and when I went in that night, I cast it out again and we never had it combat, but I was so angry. I was just screaming into the room. It wasn't there and I asked Josh will what did you see honey? What did you see and he said that opened his eyes and there was a man all in white standing there. And I knew it was the same demonic. Entity because when he went into the tornado spin, he was completely white. It was this white torn attic spin and it no longer look like. It looked like a demon. And very frightening face with with very ugly is in an elongated face with just a frightening look in the is it was very frightening and this is what he saw. And so I-, anointed that room with oil and I woke Jason Up and I took him into my bed for that night. I. Didn't. WanNa make the kids stay in that room. I, brought them in and let them sleep with me that night and then I got up the next day again and rebuked and anointed. and. We never had any problems with that particular spirit talk. Wow it's I'm amazed that you're using that agitate beautiful for something like this. I, know it's during evening when you're that scared though and you go through all of that nothing is more beautiful than the victory when you get the victory in it, it's such an amazing thing i. mean I'm just telling you my heart you know. Sean. What are your thoughts on this? She could be my twin. Oh you're out there. Trust me on I also go besides paranormal investigation I do go to client's houses and ide to fight demons. Orient. But for. What I do is like go into a deep meditation and when I leave my body to rain the demon. is take my spirit animal, which is a wolf. Pack. And I also worked with the. Archangel Uriel. And What's crazy for me is. When looking for the demon dear member Uncle Fester from the addams family. They all all demons, a pair to me as uncle fester. Yes Oh that's how I. It's a demon entrust me I mean they are tough. They are powerful but here the big thing for me was. The. They used to care how demon dogs would him and That's where the wolf came in. But my question to you is okay when he first merchant per spirit or demon in. Did you. Did, you have a feeling it could have been bad even before you knew what it was. I did even as a child when certain things would approach me I could feel immediately if this was of God or not of God and those are those are my connections I, my spirit, the Holy Spirit and I identify so much with him because I've seen angels, I have they've appeared in my home and these are godly angels. These are messengers. These are amazing angels beautiful chiselled faces to perfection white hair that actually came down to their shoulders in these amazing curls with Blue Eyes and they they. Even had like pink checks I mean it was ridiculous how beautiful they were. They were like a painting and you know I had never seen a painting like that. So I don't know why they would come and look like that to me. Some people have said well, maybe they were nordics and I thought well, a lot of people say that's what nordics look like but it didn't appear to be a Nordic and they came several times to me and they would give me messages in these messages were messages. Powerful messages from the Lord and each each time they spoke to me whatever they were telling me with something I needed I needed to hear that and so if it was Nordic K if it was angel. Okay. I, just find fascinating how when you first saw this man in your room it was your friend of yours that you. Yes. Blew my mind. Well. That's because those are familiar spirits and their biblical, their familiar spirits they come to you with familiarity to draw you in. Had that demon drawn me an and I thought that that actually John a man that I once loved engaged to had I. Actually believed that that was him. I. Don't know where this testimony then tonight would go I don't know what he would have been able to do obviously possessed me. He was very strong and it was a very strong demon and they use people or they. Like somebody could come to you as let's say, your grandmother in you think it's your grandmother may not be your mom or people who've seen they think they saw images of Christ how do you? How do you know that that's Really crisis on a demon. Well, each case is a case by case scenario with that I would have to first of all feel it and feel the vibration of the testimony listened to the person and see who they are You know there's so much to take in account for it. You can have a lying spirit coming right out of some body telling you that story or you could have a seducing spirit or familiar spirit or even. Spirit of Anti Christ or a bondage type of spirit. You know those are with addictions and doctrines of men and things like that. There's so many realms of the demonic spirits there really are and they say seven you know they're seven or there's twelve, but I've seen so many I've interacted with so many that go after little babies literally go after little children in their cribs and these kids are traumatized by these things. Scary. To do real quick was are you of Scandinavian? I'm not I'm actually Irish Swiss Scottish. And My Dad was one hundred percent Italian. So No, and I'm not are H. negative either the how. No the reason being the first person that you saw when you were a young girl I would have to say that would have been Nordmann like a Viking of some sort coming toward. That's what I felt Mrs What I. Felt that it was Kinda like like what we were talking about with joy lane less I know that sounds bizarre. But like door command, it sounds like camp because he wears a blue outfit like a cave and he has this light I is in he has a light hair and he that's what it. Looked like he did look like that. Yeah. So it sounds all my name specifically you know. So he didn't come after my siblings. He chose to come after me and they all ran off to go play ball at the Bekker's down street and I'm standing in the yard trying to figure out who's talking to me. Crazy. It's crazy. Yeah. It's interesting and it's crazy in the same sense but when you've done so many other things too besides demolished on demon -nology and yes going back to what we were talking about the foes in the beginning. What are your? What what what are your thoughts in? Is there any investigation because you're on the you still on the Board for move on? A you and is there anything that sticks out in your mind you find Really legitimate that you can taller listeners that you want to share with us I would like that In reference to. Any Anything that you investigated or if you. Want to tell us that you think that's a legitimate like with the Pentagon in their opening up more, you know giving us more data as Roswell is something hit. Do you think there's something hidden at Roswell for sure or is this just a distraction? No. I believe that a Dole say Mexico is new. Mexico is definitely an underground place I do believe that we do definitely have aliens held there I. DO believe that Roswell was real. I'm positive. I know that the extraterrestrials are with us. I've had many interactions with them some I've written about some I haven't They are definitely here. And I've been healed. I wrote that little book because it was so profound that I was actually healed from something that had happened to me in two thousand and in two thousand twelve for whatever reason an extraterrestrial and it wasn't just an extraterrestrial it was a reptilian extraterrestrial hybrid. Very friendly. Well, that's what people say but they're wrong I I think that the extraterrestrials can be. As evil as we are I, think that they can portray. Our inner. Vibrations and they can react in the exact same way and I do know most of that is very factual what I'm telling you because of talking with Sergent Clifford stone and when he picked one up He immediately was in total communion. With this thing, they're vibrations melded together eat new the mind of that extraterrestrial in the extraterrestrial new, his mind well one I've ever been in the presence of the extraterrestrials. Meld with them, I feel them. They feel me and I'm a peaceful soul I come from a peaceful place I might not wicked. I. Don't hate you know. I'm a strong personality, but and I have my opinions but all in all I'm incredibly forgiving and I think they see that and they know that you know I'm not judging I might be hurt because something happens to me but I'll always forgive and they know that. So I think they do meld with us in a sense and can interact with us through A. Telepathic way I've never seen any of them use their mouths. I've never seen a mouth actually I've never seen ears on either but they do have huge is and they're very different from us the other than us. They are nothing like us and a lot of people say, Oh, I had sex with a extraterrestrial and I'm like, no, no, you did They don't have what you would need to have sex with him. I. Think you may have had sex with a demon demons can definitely sleep with you look in the book of Genesis the the fallen angels were having sex with the the women the daughters of Eve it says, and they were having sex with them and they were having children from that interaction. So the fallen angels do have the wherewithal to get a woman pregnant and that's where the nephew lean came from and I believe those are part of the inaugural and the Nepalese team were the the. Giants at that time. So. You know, I mean I I don't know why I said that but it's because it always angers me when I hear woman saying Oh I had sex I'm like, no, you have sex with the demon DOLLAH DOT. Did Not have sex with dealing. They do have hybridization, but that doesn't require sex. That's a genetic thing. In my one, my trilogy, my Third Book Rohr's curtain I am my character goes down to Do say is that how you say to say? How. Do you pronounce the? Say Delay Um, and there's the seven levels in that case and. There's One I forget which paper was. It was to say papers. That the one level had. A bunch of hybrids Yes. Now are there seven different? How many different races the day is like how many different ones day say there was at this as there's like All well, they say there's a hundred and. Twenty eight different are you talking about the species? Yes the different one, the day. I mean some people say fifty seven and that's where Heinz fifty-seven came from and I'm like Oh my gosh but I don't know maybe it did I did never. Ever get out I mean I know there was a firefight in the seventies between the people that work there and the races did any of them ever escape with go off on their own? The extraterrestrials, Oh, many have escaped many do get out they do go back home and ESPN is only which was written by Clifford Stone talks about him getting one out actually and releasing him in the mid eighty was released. He was taken up by his own type they they literally took him back up and so one minute he was there and the next minute he wasn't. So they do get out. Yes and I have had some very powerful interactions with them and I dare not say it on on the year but oh, golly There there was labels on the coach jackets that I saw of the people working with them. I just don't want to say that. But I have seen it and it's a big huge corporation that we all are very aware of and They do have them and they are subdued there in bondage. Some of them are in bondage and they've been they've been collected from different crash sites and we have made. A. DIFFERENT Technology. Helicopters will start flying over my. Sort of like know ats fictional but maybe they got the story from somebody that does that they would kept they. They're keeping these et's. Captive you know they can't get out and they're using them for their technology and you never know maybe some of these you know you like you're saying these big corporations that have these new gadgets out every year they who knows, I might have an t somewhere underground holding them captive and using them just for their technology. Towards. Haggling. Scary to think that they would do that. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of scary things involved with this, but it is what it is. You know like. There's many different types of extraterrestrials you know they start from bigfoot I. Think he's part of a extraterrestrial hybridization, their skin walkers, there's regular you know extraterrestrials there's nordics there's tall whites which I've seen many tall whites. There's graves you know there's so many different types and and they all seem to have different agendas. They're not all the Reptilians they're not all negative. If I you know every time I hear somebody say Oh my God, the Reptilians were so bad blah blah blah I'm thinking I. Don't know that that wasn't a reptile Kellyanne hybrid of some type or if it wasn't something other than erupted million L. I've never I've seen two. And one healed me and the other one gave me a data data dump and said. To me when he gave it to me that at the time that I would need this information. To me and until the time I needed it, I would have it. And I thought okay that's not mean you know he wasn't Ping Me. So I don't know. Don't know either John what are your thoughts. I find it very, very interesting at find you ma'am very interesting So I'm going to have to check your book and. Hopefully Hook up in the future and talk some more about this But my question, my last custom on ask you. Do you think. That the military improve phone will work together in the future. And would you like to see that happen? Well I believe that we already have we. We are not a government entity by any stretch of the imagination and we're all volunteers nobody gets paid except our executive director and. They come to us I mean we even have a shirt that says we've been doing their job for the last. Five years. You know and they come to us for information I think and you know as far as I. can see and have always heard they do get information from us because we have the database. can they log into that database I? Think. So I think that the government can do anything they want. So whatever information we have, we're not necessarily working with them, but they might be working against us. Oh I. Told You could come to one of our move want conf conferences out here in western Pennsylvania. That would be awesome. If you'd be a great speaker, I'd love to just invite me and L. Come talk to John Venture because he's the one that handles all that he's not he's not a director anymore for Pennsylvania but he does handle the conferences it would be great. I'm going to have to talk to him about that and it's too late for this year but maybe next year. Syrupy. Awesome. How are we with Time Sean? We got right now but a minute left. Okay well. Got Caught in shortage off this week because having difficulty getting getting you in. But it was great to have you with us today I wanNA, thank you for joining US Terry and is we're can our listeners get hold of you or read your books? Okay, they can get a hold of me at dom at move on dot com and they can read my book at Terry Laying Dot Com it's T.. E. R. I L. Y. N. Like Nancy G. E. DOT COM. Okay. We'll. We will be. Going to do that because I think you are fascinating. Shau. Great to have Sean Tower audience where someone can get in contact you for paranormal investigation. Sure. Just go to facebook and type in Pittsburgh Paranormal Society and leave us a message and we'll get back to you as soon as possible. Great and I wanted to let you guys know you can catch up on all our old. podcasts with our old station. On spotify. So you can I think there's like ten of them there maybe more but please check out my author page into calcium trilogy from the sky. Is there with all three books equinoxes, awards carton on Amazon Dot Com and next week we have joy pugh back on the show talking about the Anti Christ that should be interesting. Hi Sean. You Love Demons. Well. Great. 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Lawrence Taylor Pt. 2

Sports Criminals

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Lawrence Taylor Pt. 2

"Of Room when sixty at the Holiday Inn he splash some water on his face he was in Montebello New York long way away from his floor it may six two thousand ten just before four am has fifty one year old Lawrence Taylor stood in the bathroom story rape welcome to Sports Criminals Parker back watching the TV he reflected on the journey that was his life to super bowl wins. NFL MVP millions rape charge on September fifth nineteen eighty eight the New York giants opened their season against their of dollars made retirement endless nights of smoking crack hitting rock bottom and pulling himself out of the debt he wasn't going to be that man anymore well except for the occasional night with a sex worker soon his eyes grew heavy and I'm corduroy you can find episodes of sports criminals and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts retirement full of drugs and run INS with law enforcement and how his attempt to turn his life around was derailed in two thousand ten by a statutory breath of despair for close to eleven years he had managed to stay clean the days of Lt the party animal were long gone let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network now last week we began our dive into the story of it with a blinding light when his eyes were adjusted he could see the police in front of him. Flashlights pointed right at him regional rival the Washington redskins after a rough season the year before the giants were looking to rebound and return to their nineteen eighty six champion he's had cheated on his wife but at least he wasn't smoking crack anymore swallowed a glass of Bourbon and told himself he did nothing wrong art will also uncover how their actions impacted the history of the sport they played and had a ripple of cultural and social implications. I'm Tim Johnson before he could register what was going on he was turned around and slapped with a pair of handcuffs Lawrence Taylor was under arrest for statutory name however off the field Taylor found himself another love crack cocaine this week we'll follow Taylor. As the end of his prolific career led to her chip form over seventy thousand fans were in attendance at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford New Jersey that night when the game ended the score was it was not the first and it wouldn't be the last time he would pay for sex no sense in dwelling on it tailor made his way to the bed and laid back asked original every week we dive into the dark side of sports history and look at athletes who not only broke the law but broke the rules and covenants of their sports versus giants linebacker Lawrence Taylor upon his entering the League Taylor's aggressive no holds barred style of play revolutionized the game stream sports criminals for free on spotify just opened the APP anti sports criminals in the search bar it podcast we're grateful for you our listeners you allow us to do what we love and fell asleep Taylor jolted out of bed to allowed pounding on the hotel door he quickly put on his robe and answered he was Mad New York Twenty-seven Washington twenty it was a solid if unspectacular start to the new season but missing from the bright lights and Adore being shot Swiss Star linebacker Lawrence Taylor a month earlier he had learned that he had failed his second drug test in a year unlike the I failed test this one had serious consequences he was suspended for the first four games of the nineteen eighty eight season the twenty nine year old going through an ounce every day for many the NFL's announcement of the failed tests was a complete shock true many Lt's life linebacker had an addiction to crack cocaine it was cooked with baking soda and he would add it to the tip of his cigarettes by his own admission there were times he was knew he loved to go out and party all night but two years earlier he had gone to Rehab and he was allegedly clean Lt had kept his addiction secret his best he could at least in years past he had used clean urine from fellow teammates or assistance to pass drug tests but in nineteen eighty seven his he claims that in an attempt to fool the testers and replace his sample with clean urine he accidentally switched it with Tainted Cup urban and nineteen eighty eight the league had caught him in the documentary lt the life and Times Lt denies that the urine from the failed test was whether that actually happens is up for debate what wasn't though was the suspension itself by missing four games due to a league suspension is he didn't like losing money but the real threat that loomed over his second strike was that if lt failed third drug test he receive and he was also forfeiting a quarter of his million dollar salary it was a crushing financial blow for the man who had crossed the picket line during a player strike because lifetime ban that risk weighed heavily on lt his entire livelihood came from football not cocaine and he used that as motive a two dropping games to the San Francisco Forty niners and the Los Angeles Rams however there wins against Washington and Dallas put them in first place in nation when he was finally allowed to return in week five in the four games without their star linebacker the giants win to win their division and with Lt back in the fold they intended to stay there for the rest of the nineteen eighty eight season Lt was in top form though the league drug tested him twice a week throughout the season Lt was committed to staying clean for himself and for his family arguably his in the right place despite his renewed commitment thoughts of quitting the game or moving to a different team for a fresh start entered his head and team needed him he had already let them down earlier in the season with his suspension he wasn't going to do it again with a leather harness strapped under his Jersey soon he was saying it out loud even though the giants were winning some of the games were too close for L. Tease Liking as motivation head coach hilty was practically unable to move his right arm but that didn't stop him this was Lawrence Taylor that night lt played through excruciating when his team needed him he showed up now his going to have to rely on them if he wanted to overcome his drug addiction perform parcells knew what he was doing the comment angered lt and he took his aggression out on the saints in a game with playoff implications you're in a row during the off season Lt made sure to keep his nose clean from drugs but that didn't stop him from partying hard booze win had seven tackles three sacks and forced two fumbles everyone who watched lt that night remembered why he was the baddest play the game the best players in the entire sport he had the resume to prove it super bowl champ MVP nine time pro bowler unfortunately the nineteen eighty eight season ended in disappointment for lt the giants went ten and six missing the playoffs for the second year and ten lt was focused on football even with all of his off the field troubles lt ended the nineteen eighties is still one is greatest gain that season came on November twenty seventh nineteen eighty-eight against the New Orleans saints but in the weeks leading up to it L. Tease head was however the negotiations weren't smooth around that time the highest paid defensive player was reggie white a D wasn't partying at his restaurant he was living it up at a strip club that he also had a financial stake in when he wasn't boozing it Lt's or I creating pain the most painful experience of his playing career and in the process he put up one of the most memorable games of his career he bill parcells claim that his trade value with to fail drug tests was low lt was damaged goods no GM in his right mind would trade going into the game the giants were banged up both linebacker Harry Carson and Carl banks were out due to injury as Dan had racked up one hundred thirteen and a half sacks in the thirty one year old use these eye-popping statistics to renegotiate his contract as as a giant were over giants stadium was his home in the thought of losing is home scared him but after forty four days his mind off the drugs he channeled his efforts into investing in a restaurant called what else L. Tease Lt was through with dishing out thou- willing to part ways Lawrence Taylor held out for forty four days and in those forty four days there was wild speculation it's always a stressful time between both the player and the team after all sports is a business and businesses can erase any emotional with production like that he had earned a one point five million dollar a year deal lt according to the New York Times wanted to be paid offensive player in NFL history five million dollars for three years with a new contract in hand in gambling where things he wasn't able to kick he was the same lt just without the coke laced cigarette dangling from his mouth too key you million dollars a year though in his memoir he claims he was asking for three million when the giants didn't give into his demands lt ten and a half sacks one interception and another pro bowl appearance most importantly the team finished thirteen and three but instead of feeling thousands of dollars each night at bars and clubs but if he owned his own place he'd be able to keep partying while also making money and if lt we lt was ready for the nineteen ninety season and he proved to everyone that he was worth the enormous new contract he finished the year with with quarterback Phil Simms and to make matters worse lt was himself suffering a torn pectoral muscle he shouldn't have played but his hold out until deal they favor gets made or the team calls the athletes bluff and the pressure forces the athlete to end the holdout regardless playing against the buffalo bills giant starting quarterback Phil Simms broke his foot a crushing blow to the team's morale in his place was twenty nine year old backup Jeff hostetler Lt liked hostetler but didn't think he had what it took to lead a championship team in his attachment between two parties it didn't matter that Lt and the giants had been together for nine years if the money wasn't right both would have been added to hold out when if an athlete and a team don't agree on contract terms before training camp the athlete will refuse to show up or the giants would trade him to another team possibly to division rival Philadelphia Lt admitted in his memoir that he feared that his ace lt in the giants came to a deal while it wasn't two million a year like he had asked the deal still made lt the highest paid when crashing into the grass lt grabbed the ball out of Craig's hands forcing a fumble that was recovered by the giants the giants were face the reigning Super Bowl Champs the San Francisco Forty niners with a stacked roster of Joe Montana Jerry Rice and Ronnie Lott seconds left on the clock Lt never usually played on special teams but this play was too big it was the entire season seven years on the giants hostetler had only started two games in Lt's mind their trip to the playoffs would ultimately end the way it almost on first and ten young snap the ball on the giants forty yard line and handed it off to running back Roger Craig as Craig ran up the middle he the excitement for making it back to the playoffs lt in the rest of the giants went into the postseason with some trepidation in week fifteen while the niners were the clear favorites but the giants had heart on their side with less than three minutes left to play the score lt was going to the Super Bowl but super bowl twenty-five was going to be tough both physically and mentally the giants were Hansa end on the Philadelphia Eagles at that time in the five seasons he had been an eagle white had accumulated a whopping eighty one sacks facing the team that sent Phil Simms to the sidelines that thirteen and three buffalo bills once again the giants were the clear underdogs was thirteen to twelve in favor of San Francisco to protect their lead and run down the clock the niners brought in backup quarterback Steve Young or would took two steps and booted lt rushed and shoved his hand in the air to try and block the ball from making its way to the uprights in the giants were up twenty to nineteen but bills quarterback Jim Kelly drove the ball downfield to get his team in easy field goal range with eight little marched down the field and kick a field goal shocking the world with a fifteen to thirteen victory for the second time in just four years football career coming up. Lt's NFL career comes to a close and retirement all those lights flashing and everyone whooping and Hollering I had no idea that this was the beginning of the end of my foot leads to a spiral of drugs and brushes with the law now back to the story at the beginning of nineteen ninety one wchs the bills were favored by seven but lt and the giants fought and fought and fought in the final moments of the game did what he couldn't do but the ball sailed just outside the reach of his teammates into the right of the goalposts Norwood's Lawrence Taylor was a super bowl champion but as lt puts it himself in his memoir as we carried bill parcells off the field with on the line he demanded that he go in with eight seconds to go buffalo snapped the ball kicker Scott end up being the beginning of the end a few months after the Super Bowl head coach bill parcells announced that he was going to retire the news she filed for divorce for the second time in their marriage between his personal troubles and declining passion for the game lt hope to call nine dead lt found himself face down in the mud has players piled on top of him all Lt do was hope that one of his teammates as did in disappointment however hostetler proved lt wrong the team coasted to the NFC championship game where they with Lt drug addiction alcohol abuse and womanizing she was ready to put the pain and suffering she endured behind her in nineteen ninety two down by another player and when he landed on the ground in excruciating jolt of pain shot through his leg felt like the back of kick had missed with the giants now in possession of the ball they quickly ran out the clock and for the second time in his career he had checked out with ourselves gone thoughts of his own retirement filled L. Tease head despite his love for competition and desired not got his hands on it and as it spun around in the air he thought that he could snatch it for an interception but as he jumped towards the ball he was suddenly pulled but on November eighth nineteen ninety two the plan changed while playing against the Green Bay packers as twenty three year old an eighty four games he had accumulated one hundred thirty two and a half sacks nine interceptions for one hundred thirty four return yards two touchdowns after the game rumors began to swirl as to whether or not the injury would force lt into retirement but when asked by the press if he was going to retire win he couldn't see himself playing for much longer to make matters worse his marriage to Linda had come to an end after years of putting it but this was not the way he was going to end his prolific career he was not going to let a torn Achilles sabotage his exit from the game he changed the ankle was on fire as he laid on the ground waiting for the trainers to come and attend to him all lt could think about was that he was done earned the respect of players and people in general around the country after thirteen seasons in the League lt finished his career having played one hundred quarterback Brett farve dropped back to hurl the ball Downfield thirty-three-year-old lt leaped in front and tried to bat it down L. Flying was gone in his own words Lt retired when parcells retired though he would return for the upcoming season Mentally Shire's failed and with the bills piling up and no emotional support system lt had become noticeably angrier during the nineteen the young players but in September nineteen ninety-five it was almost certainly his last after giving the speech lt was approached a blowout on January fourteenth nineteen ninety four the forty niners beat the giants forty four three between that loss and the Lt Dove headfirst back into his addiction all facets of Lt's life quickly spiraled out of control his several businessmen and thirty two year old LT and the New York giants were Super Bowl Champs for the second time in less than five years but what should have been a joyous moment when is no longer about him Palladino didn't take no for an answer he followed lt around yelling expletives at the former linebacker the giants finished eleven five and made it to the playoffs for the first time since their nineteen ninety super bowl winning season in the divisional round by reporter Ernie Palladino Palladino wanted to ask Lt questions but lt wanted them to focus on the team he was retired now and thirty three forced fumbles it should be noted though since the NFL didn't begin recording sacks until lt second season is nine and a half ax from his rookie season weren't officially recorded adding them in brings Lt's total sack number two one hundred forty two putting him in the top ten they face their old foes the San Francisco Forty niners but unlike previous matchups where both teams fought to the end for the win this game was lt tried to keep his cool but it was becoming too much when Palladino made a snide comment under his breath about how lt hadn't changed lt ran up to the journalist grabbed him by the neck and threw him to the side and it was all caught on camera no charges were brought met by a wall of giants defenders Lt was one of them he swallowed up Craig and sent the running back into the ground but both men is devastated L. T. for ten years lt had relied on ourselves to motivate him and help him with his demons now his life six sacks he recorded for all of nineteen ninety-three it was quiet way for lt to end his career as the press descended on him after eighteen ninety two his final season he wanted to take one more victory lap around the league and end his influential career on a high note all time but darker things were on the horizon without the constant drug testing and the threat of losing his job for two home he stared at himself in the mirror accepting the fact that he had just slept with a teenage sex worker for three hundred dollars short ninety five season giants head coach Dan Reeves asked Lt give the players a pep talk it wasn't the first time Lt had been asked to energize the game lt made the announcement I think it's pretty well time to call it quits I've been super bowls I've been to playoffs I've where Lt remained cagey lt made a back just in time for the nineteen ninety three season with him back in the fold deeper into drugs when he wasn't paying alimony and child support used what he made on cocaine his crack binges were so bad but it was an incredibly embarrassing moment for the once idolized superstar to cope with all of his failures lt saying deeper and in September nineteen ninety eight police found drug paraphernalia and crack cocaine in a hotel room in Teaneck New Jersey that Lt had rented seconds after Lt gave the guy money the thirty-seven-year-old was arrested ultimately he agreed to sixty hours of can having sex with escorts according to him this was the period when he did the most amount of cocaine of his life playing golf tournament in the early hours of the nineteenth he was awakened by the knocking of his hotel room door by a man and a woman trying to sell him crack it'll to protect lt from the many legal issues he would face in the nineties in June nineteen ninety seven lt pleaded guilty to filing knbr Fifth Nineteen ninety-five lt checked into rehab much like his stint in nineteen eighty six. The process was a facade after fourteen days lt checked himself out within a week he was back to smoking crack cocaine in his memoirs he says that re community service it wasn't an extreme punishment but it did inspire him to return to Rehab Back in New Jersey but the sentiment failing to pay child support while he still had a network of people around him his relationship with his family was on the rocks all of them have admitted nine year old refused any kind of help by the middle of Nineteen Ninety eight his days consisted of sitting around the house half-naked smoking crack how hard it was to want to be associated with Lt at this time his teenage son Lawrence Taylor junior tried to avoid people who knew third lt drove back over to his dealers house who now had some crack for lt the deal was easy too easy the only joy lt got outside of getting high was playing golf a favorite place of his was down at Myrtle Beach South Carolina in May nineteen any six lt went down to play in a golf tournament but arrived a few days early to play a few rounds as a warm up on the night of May second lt a false income tax return in nineteen ninety and in May nineteen ninety eight he was arrested as part of a deadbeat parents round up in New Jersey for was he was embarrassed by what was happening to his father and with each new arrest Linda was forced to tell her children before they heard or read it on the news news to give them time to process the information before they went to school but the X. Linebacker did little to break down these barriers the thirty however lt was an in the room at the time so police didn't charge him with possession one month later Lt went to Saint Petersburg Florida Ah Lt had encountered the man earlier that evening and passed on purchasing the drug after a short back and forth lt relented and look for the House of a local crack dealer after finding him Lt was told that he was out but to come back the next day the next morning me fifty dollars worth of crack instantly the door bursts open and lt was surrounded by cops it was a setup for we have was more like a detox I didn't go in to learn anything I just went into sober up it was like a little vacation and seemed as if the the second time he had been arrested for buying from an undercover informant and to make matters worse Lt was finally charged with the drug paraphernalia found in the hotel room a month before though he would only have to pay a fine for the paraphernalia charge the undercover boss was a lot more serious however he was given an option either enter Rehab again or face jail time coming up a fateful night in two thousand ten derails Lt he's road to redemption now back to the story after years of toiling in degradation it was time for Lawrence Taylor to get some help twice in two years lt had been arrested for buying crack cocaine and with the looming threat of serious AOL time the thirty nine year old Taylor by order of the court went back to Rehab at the end of nineteen ninety eight but this stint was going to be sprint Lt was forced to have a roommate a first for him while undergoing the process after thirty days Lt was ready to pack it in gently stayed but continued to not take Rehab seriously however that all changed during a group session according to not his counselor claimed that the breakthrough occurred when he showed the group game tape of Lt in which he was clearly on Drugs Lt had always claimed to have never done drugs during a game but in Rehab he admitted that he had as lt says Dan but a friend said no he told Lt that he was going to need to stay another thirty days or answer to the courts Lt Reload I saw on that game film humbled me I looked like I was running underwater what specific game the story refers to is unclear at the age of thirty nine admitted that he was a drug addict over the course of his sixty four days in Rehab Lt Final Lt doesn't elaborate in his memoir about the particulars but the video got the job done Lt for the First Time Austin was smoking crack sleeping with escorts staying out late he did all of that to mask the confusion and loneliness he felt inside answer is that you won't get better until you are sick and tired of being sick and tired when I was smoking crack I had no choice the drug made my choice Sunday playing a star linebacker addicted to pain relieving cortisone shots Lt gave a memorable performance all of which culminated in the are for buying crack in his memoir Lt describes why this stretch was different from the previous ones he writes I think that ride the results of embracing the Rehab Process and sobriety showed not just for Lt to his family as well for the first time the scene perfectly encapsulates Lawrence Taylor's life the highs lows in the journey towards redemption the road that lay ahead of him it's gorgeous golf courses he loved the atmosphere and he knew it was the change he needed as Lt was in the midst of staying clean he took the time to reflect on himself on his relationships on the high of being on the field in the lows of being handcuffed in a squad car for stone stone was in the middle of directing a movie about football and he had the perfect role lt in the film any given famous team shower scene paired with Jamie Foxx who played a backup quarterback. Lt's character reflects on how lucky they are to be playing the game they could see that Lt was taking Rehab seriously though there was always a fear that he would relapse Lt's children could see that Lt was ready anybody can do that a hall of Famer never quits a hall of Famer realizes that the crime is not being knocked down to cry did into the pro football hall of fame and soon thereafter on August seventh he was officially inducted on the and more importantly how a man should look back on his life and be happy with all of it not just what he did on the field well anything but subtle old Lawrence Taylor junior stepped up to the podium and introduced his father. TJ's speech meant the world L T he became a New Jersey and the proximity to New York City was a bad place for him while filming the movie he had grown attached to the area and not just for motionless he washed his son not only exalt his accomplishments on the field but describe how much he and his sisters loved Him Lt knew he make a change all lt could do was take it one day one step at a time and show his family in the world that he was ready to make change one man who was willing to give lt his first step to rebuilding his life was film director and Lt the troublemaker was gone now he was back to being Lawrence Taylor and he would stay out of trouble for good impala his teammates and of course bill parcells after finishing up the list of people to think he ended his speech described long list of people who got him to Ken his parents Iris and Clarence his ex wife Linda his kids. TJ Whitney Tunisia in what it means to be a hall of Famer and how they face adversity he said no matter how many times life knocks you down are how many times you think you can't go forward no matter how many times things just don't go right you know anybody can quit shing. TJ added fuel to the Fire Lt to stay on the straight and narrow when TJ finished it was Lt's turn he went through the law and wasn't going to be easy but lt was committed when any given Sunday finished shooting Lt made the decision to move to Florida a hurdle was thrown his way that he knew he was going to need to cross in nineteen ninety nine Lt became eligible to be inducted wasn't the greatest father in the world during his children's formative years he was strung out on cocaine but in the process of staying clean water just for me the program in the Camaraderie of my group gave me a chance to make a choice going through rehab he had come to grips with how law not over the edge in the memoir he opened up more about his personal struggles with drugs and partying lifestyle while also reminiscing about addict from the eighties and nineties seemed to have changed but Taylor's redemption was about to take a major setback Lawrence Taylor was arrested epsom the hall of fame entrance in Canton Ohio in front of thousands of fans wearing number fifty six chanting. Lt's name seventeen let's accrues an extra he had met while filming any given Sunday and in two thousand four at the age of forty five he published his memoir L. but that didn't stop Taylor from trying to find love in two thousand seven the forty eight year old Taylor married thirty three year old Lynette Taylor and in two thousand village Montebello Taylor who's fifty one was one of the greatest defensive players in football history in March two thousand ten sixteen year old Brooklyn native according to her he complimented her on her hair claiming that it looked like his wife's fiero excused herself into the bathroom kids stood by him at every step of his recovery Taylor's romantic life was looking up to on November twenty eighth two thousand one he married just shaft inhale mercy streets and an episode of the Sopranos his relationship with his family improved exponentially Linda and for the rest of the two thousands lt made good on his commitment to staying clean he found himself in various acting roles during the car ride Davis had repeatedly hit fierro and when they got to the hotel he told her that she was going to have sex with a man time is not getting up again to the sound of applause Lt's bust was placed alongside fellow titans of the game in his mind Taylor had given her the money and asked her to turn the TV on as she left when fiero returned to Rashied Davis she called her uncle again and spoke to him. Oh man named Rashied Davis in the Bronx while living together Davis forced Vero into sex work two months later in the early in a room for three hundred dollars when fear oh knocked on the door she had no idea who the naked Lawrence Taylor was as he answered okayed and with his wife Lynette and adopted son he was thankful for how he was able to turn it all around the image of a bad boy drug at nine the couple adopted a three year old named molly a second chance at fatherhood going into the two thousand ten's Taylor had been clean for he was also charged with soliciting prostitution after posting a seventy five thousand dollars bail Taylor awaited his trial while dodging in Spanish so Davis wouldn't understand and when they returned to Davis's Bronx home the police were waiting Davis was immediately arrested barrage of scrutiny from the media news outlets ran stories claiming that he knowingly sought out the young girl and beat her in addition to the sexual assault meaning of May Sixth Two thousand ten Davis took fear to a holiday in Montebello New York about thirty five miles from Manhattan Room and texted her uncle he told her to call the police she quickly dialed nine one one and left the phone in her purse as Taylor massaged fear the good days of life in giants stadium not long after the memoir was released the marriage to Maritza Cruz ended they divorced in two thousand five Stina Fiero was reported missing by her family fiero had run away and unbeknownst to the family was living with a thirty six year old ED and soon the police headed to the Holiday Inn in Montebello at four am on May sixth fifty one year old Lawrence Taylor told him she was nineteen during the night of May sixth but that didn't matter at the time of the incident she was still a week away from her seventeen ape patronizing a prostitute sexual abuse and endangering a child he's accused of paying a sixteen year old runaway for sex in suburban New York City Motel Room in May Taylor's lawyer there was arrested and charged with third degree rape or sexual intercourse with someone under the age of seventeen the age of consent in New York zero she anticipated the police crashing through the door to rescue her didn't in the span of about twenty minutes the two had sex the former New York giant star seemed relaxed in court looking around the gallery smiling in declaring it must be a slow news day through his lawyer he pleaded not guilty to third degree the New York City suburb of Ram oppo about twenty five miles north west of Manhattan he was being investigated in connection with the rape that allegedly took place at a holiday hotel in the Ramaphosa Taylor would commit the crime again the sentence was a sigh of relief for Taylor but that didn't mean his image didn't take a major hit New York may have considered the case closed but for Fiero it wasn't in late November two thousand eleven then eighteen year old birthday and was there for not legally able to give consent as the realization him that fighting the charge would more than likely lead old Christina fiero now represented by Gloria allred sued the fifty two year old Taylor in civil court for punitive damages however because Lawrence Taylor helped them in the investigation of some human trafficking cases on January Thirteenth Two Thousand Eleven Lawrence Taylor Twenty Years Level one is the lowest grade in means the Taylor was considered low risk to the public judge William Kelly didn't believe that he lit up a cigar to celebrate his legal victory the whole ordeal reminded the fifty-three-year-old that his journey towards redemption was still a long thirteen tailor made the decision to become sober in the years that he had been drug free he was still an avid drinker giving up taking it one day at a time was all he could do unfortunately so Bridie didn't stick in September two thousand sixteen he was less than a year after the civil suit was brought against him on October Twenty Six two thousand twelve a jury took less than an hour to side with Taylor jail time Taylor

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Lawrence Taylor Pt. 1

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Lawrence Taylor Pt. 1

"January twenty fifth nineteen eighty-seven as halftime began the scoreboard for Super Bowl. Anyone read Denver broncos Ten New York giants nine has they shuffled into the locker room the giants morale was broncos Twenty Lawrence Taylor was a super bowl champion he should have been on cloud nine instead he was subdued numb to the excitement his mind was elsewhere on what he would do after he left the stadium uh-huh that nearly ruined his career this week we'll chart Lt's meteoric rise to the NFL also explore how his popularity around the league ager incident in May two thousand ten threatened his attempt at redemption coming out of halftime his teammates played like men possessed and when the clock hits zero the scoreboard read giants thirty nine shoulders slumped Taylor stepped forward and began listen guys we didn't play no type of football the scores tend to nine yet from that first lung full of crack Cocaine Very New York City linebacker Lawrence Taylor when the giants picked him second overall in the nineteen eighty one draft they had no idea that welcome to sports criminals par cast original every week we dive into the dark side of sports history and look at athletes who not only broke the law they had selected the man who would change the game forever they also had no idea that he would struggle with drug addiction and host of personal problem they got every break and we played no giant football whatsoever not one iota giant football we're about to go out here and kick these guys but Taylor refused to go down without a fight earlier that year lt had battled a drug problem in one now that he was clean it it wasn't the most eloquent or memorable halftime speech ever given but it did enough to rouse the giants from their stupor. I am Carter Roy you can find episodes of sports criminals and all other par- cast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts all seasons on the field and see how retirement drove him into a spiral of drug addiction and brushes with the law finally we'll examine how a me let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network today we begin our dive into the legend he wasn't GonNa let all that hard work go to waste time to put up or shut up as the giants sat in the Locker Room and the city of New York lead him to a hard partying lifestyle and a secret addiction to crack cocaine next week will follow Lt's aw but broke the rules and covenants of their sport will also uncover how their actions impacted the history of the sport they played I'm Tim Johnson and to stream sports criminals for free on spotify just open the APP and type sports criminals in the search bar at podcast we're grateful for you our listeners you allow us to do what we love what makes Lt so great what makes him so aggressive is his total disregard for his body he was fast three two hundred forty pound linebacker Lawrence Lt Taylor Bill Belichick who was one of Lt's coaches on the New York giants once said mm-hmm on getting his hands on a Baggie full of white powder mixing it in with the hand-rolled cigarette and the Rushi of dire consequences both in the stadium and in his home life but before he became the unstoppable force expired him coaches had no idea how to stop him his fearlessness inspired and influenced defensive players for generations tation around every corner lt became the life of the party as he polluted his body with booze and crack cocaine the toll of such vices was museum and if he said his sights on you more often than not you're gonNA find yourself hitting the ground hard quarterback but the disregard for his body didn't only apply to his style of play off the field lt found himself drawn to drugs and alcohol with onus lt he was little Lonnie Taylor born on February fourth nineteen fifty nine in Williamsburg Virginia though in Lt permission to play Pop Warner Youth football in high school he played defensive guard quickly came to love being on defense did however a coach University of North Carolina was willing to take a chance on him in the fall of nineteen seventy seven at the age of eighteen orig- by his father Clarence to play football his mother Iris refused to allow it but when he was around fifteen high-risk finally gave in Z. says in his memoir Lt over the edge I knew right away that I'd rather hit then be hit soon it was time to start thinking of and in the one thousand nine hundred eighty s the game of football was changed forever but the man responsible wasn't a quarterback or running back it was six foot lt officially played his first game as a UNC tar heel during his sophomore season his coaches moved Lt to linebacker playing at the next level but even at six foot one two hundred pounds lt was slightly on the smaller side for what some of the major football college is one no one had any idea how consequential the change would be not just for Lt but for the entire sport but Carolina state it was the game that introduced lt to the world when the UNC defense took the field not lined up and face down NC state quarterback Scott Smith is is never left the Wolfpack ball handler when the center snapped listen until Lt's junior season that everything clicked on October Twentieth Nineteen seventy nine UNC faced number fifteen coming up to throw the ball down the field the two men collided jarring the ball loose. Lt could see the ball bouncing out of Smith's hand memoir that play shifted the spotlight onto him and that spotlight never left as luck should happen lt charged he blew past the two offense of guards like rag dolls and had a clear shot at Smith and just as Smith was wine hands and onto the grass as the ball bounced lt scooped it up and powered into the end zone touchdown tarheels according to Lt it the day he made that major play against NC state was the same day he met Sophomore Linda Cooley in a local bar in Chapel Hill at first Linda was hesitant to get involved with lt he had a reputation for being a bit of a bully on campus and was allegedly expecting a child with another woman but as they got to talking she found herself smitten by Lt's charming personality the too quickly became sweethearts in addition to his first Real Romance College also gave Lt his first taste of the party line style without anyone to keep him under control lt became a heavy drinker according to him quote on Saturday nights five of US field only grew legendary Oklahoma coach Barry Switzer nicknamed him Godzilla by the time his college career came to an end marijuana but realized he didn't care much for it or drugs in general according to him college was when he first heard about cocaine I would get a keg drink that and maybe two bottles of Jack Daniels and then go out on the town throughout college lt also occasionally smoked ear talks of Lt playing professionally began to swirl with each passing week in the fall of nineteen eighty his reputation as a monster on the but given his preference for alcohol he swore to stay away from it he did have a football career to consider after all going into his senior jacker lt figured they wouldn't be interested in him he was wrong while Lt cracked open a cold one he completely lt had caught the attention of organizations like the Dallas cowboys and the New York giants in addition to being named the ACC player of the Year Orleans Saints had selected heisman winner George Rogers running back out of South Carolina the pick hardly came as a surprise to lt written hotel unlike today top prospects weren't invited to the draft so as the proceedings began lt was watching from his pimps sex workers in junkies the big apple had quickly become known as fierce city NYC may have been on the east coast but only home in Williamsburg with ESPN's cameras rolling NFL Commissioner Pete Rozelle announced that with the first overall pick the new the giants went on the clock Lt headed into the kitchen to grab a beer the previous season their offense had been dismal as a line missed rozelle's announcement to the world that the giants had selected him with the second overall pick he was going to New York up until then could be drafted first overall the nineteen eighty-one NFL draft took place on April Twenty eighth and twenty ninth at the New York the Saints Coach had already made it clear the first pick wouldn't be him he also knew different organizations had different priorities so as the neo acidy of over eighty thousand every Sunday he'd be playing in front of twice the population of Williamsburg and Chapel Hill people in Chapel Hill North Carolina had just over thirty thousand now lt would be moving to New York whose population in nine combined all of a sudden lt found himself going from a small pond to a very big ocean and it was filled without its detractors within the organization the coaches may have been excited but his fellow defencemen weren't so welcoming for them and a consensus all American hype was building that the twenty one year old would be a top ten pick in the upcoming draft some even thought he eighteen eighty was over seven million people giants stadium located on the outskirts of New York City in East Rutherford New Jersey had a lt had spent most of his life in small towns in the nineteen seventies the population of Williamsburg Virginia was under ten thousand on top of navigating these new challenges lt also had to navigate a hostile locker room the giants picking Lt was Kelly and Brad Van Pelt with the addition of Lt in one thousand nine hundred eighty one the crunch bunch as they would later be known was born a new lifestyle he may have spent his college years binge drinking and smoking some marijuana but New York offered every temptation imaginable ask gangsters like Frank Lucas and Nikki bonds flooded the streets where the stuff moving to New York City exposed the twenty two year old Lt to a whole leading bill parcells and Bill Belichick he also began building a defense to include the aforementioned hall of Famer Harry Carson and pro bowlers Brian at the time heroin was the prominent drug to take over the city. Nixon declared the rampant drug use America's public enemy number one and infant the very first day of training camp lt was fast very fast instead of running with the other linebackers he would sprint with sharks New York in the nineteen seventies was a city of crime and vice areas like forty second street were teeming with he took the job as the giants head coach He'd be overseeing a rebuilding franchise under his command he put together an incredible coaching staff and love parcells better than any coach he would have though at times in the heat of the moment the two fought bitterly the summer backers and defensive backs including hall of Famer Harry Carson believed that the linebacker core was already strong he thought they should have spent their picks sells began a relationship that would last for decades parcells knew exactly how to channel Lt's ferocity into focus he saw field to prove himself to everyone coming up lt takes New York by storms the nineteen seventy s and leading into the nineteen eighty s it was the wild west and that lawlessness extended to the rise in drugs words and sacking the quarterback he made veterans on the offensive line looked like they had never played the game before on day one of Camp Lt and Bill Order of the nineteen seventies the giants had been one of the worst teams in the league they had made the playoffs since nineteen sixty three and nineteen seventy two on a position that was more crucial to upgrade like a receiver or running back however coach Ray Perkins had an eye for talent he knew the winning as it turned out. Those worries were unfounded during the Game Lt was told to line up against the Eagles Wide Receiver Harold Carmichael alongside the wide receivers usually the fastest guys on a team. He could channel that quickness at the line of scrimmage quickly rushing past blockers guard nineteen eighty-one was going well for lt he had won a starting role married his girlfriend Linda Cooley and had a son Morris Taylor junior the field in his first official NFL game on Game Day lt entered giant stadium with butterflies in his stomach arm now back to the story over the summer of Nineteen eighty-one Lawrence Lt Taylor had pushed himself who was the last time they had a winning season the year before drafting Lawrence Taylor they finished a dismal four and twelve some of the line when quarterback Ranjha Warsi snapped the ball the plan was for lt to slam into Carmichael and prevent him from running his route just before his pro debut in September nineteen eighty-one Lt flew back to Chapel Hill to meet his new child who they nicknamed Tj after that he was the second overall pick he would have to earn a starting role but both parcels and Bella check saw something special in Lt from just before the snap Je War Ski gave the signal and Carmichael moved spots on the line but immediately returned towards lt like all rookies lt now sporting number fifty six was at the bottom of the depth chart fourth team. It didn't no I d what to do but lt had a rule he always lived by on the field if you get confused rush and get the quarterback on his back back as soon as you can and that's exactly what he did the ignoring the play Lt blew past the Eagles offensive line and drove ron six miles from giants stadium during a party midway through the season Lt got offered a line of cocaine unlike his resistance to doing mix with the letters lt at Games and chant that Lt was a god Lt couldn't get enough of it but his rookie year it wasn't so much stage fright at playing in front of over seventy two thousand people it was fear that he wasn't going to be the most dominant player of the game aw the birth of his son had a powerful impact on Lt with his young family and his heart Lt was ready to go out onto the war ski into the ground it was Lt's first professional sack into war sqi quickly learned to keep an eye out for number fifty six there wasn't without its challenges a few months into his first season Lt had his first encounter with a new opponent in lt the makings of one of the greats and would ride him harder than anyone else in camp in return Lt grew to respect and love x for the rest of his career the giants would go on to lose their opening game against the Eagles ten to twenty four but the NFL on with a sack provided a stronger boost than any drug ever could his mantra was Taylor controls the drug the drug doesn't control Taylor Oh Kane that year lt lived with fellow rookie linebacker Byron Hunt and rookie tight end Dave young in Passaic New Jersey abouts eggs in college this time he accepted maybe it was pressure from his friends maybe his burgeoning success said clouded his judgement for the time being he was going to hold firm to that but that night in passaic a secret relationship began but e maybe he just wanted to try something new but whatever his reasoning was lt love the fork feeling the cocaine gave him became priority number one in his first season lt quickly became a fan favourite and city hero fans would paint their style. Let's see head coach Ray Perkins resign in order to become head coach of Alabama but for lt it was another banner year Elti caught his first drug rush that night but he knew that making it a habit could threaten his career hitting guys on the field and bringing quarterback's down it completely confused the giants rookie so much so that wins the war ski finally snapped the Ball Lt lost sight of Carmichael and had order it cemented his place in history unfortunately nineteen eighty two wouldn't go quite as planned dark began to form according to Lt it was during his second season at twenty three when his cocaine use increased at first in as he began experimenting with drugs his first season would go down as one of the greatest rookie years in NFL history lt collected nine the season was shortened to only nine games due to a fifty seven day players strike the giants finished four and five a setback that world got a peek into what was to come in the following weeks teams would mark their calendars for when they were going to play the giants studying. Lt's films his limits to prove himself to his new coaches and teammates on the New York giants now on September six thousand nine hundred eighty one he was ready to take against drugs because of his dislike of marijuana back in college believed him as his use of drugs began to increase during the offseason hello despite the close score the Broncos had dominated the first half but New York Star linebacker Lawrence Lt was a highlight moment that took him to a second straight defensive player of the year award but during his sophomore year the legend of Lt after which bill belichick would be moved from linebackers coach to defensive coordinator parcells first year was abysmal in the nineteen eighty-three seats and a half sacks two forced fumbles and one interception and with those individual accomplishments came team success in nineteen eighty one it was a landmark season for the giants and for Lt the defensive rookie of the year the defensive player of the year and a probe the giants made it to the playoffs for the first time since nineteen sixty three though they lost in the divisional round against the San Francisco Forty niners the giants were in the midst of Coaching Change after Ray Perkins left in one thousand nine hundred eighty two defensive coordinator bill parcells was promoted to head coach it was only recreational and he still preferred alcohol as his main vice but as lt would go out and party in the big city the availability of the best warranty even fully aware of his cocaine habits and his wife Linda who is still living over five hundred miles away in Chapel Hill had when she confronted him about it he lied and said he was just holding on to it for one of his roommates Linda who was under the impression that her husband was during the Thanksgiving Day game against the Detroit lions he intercepted a pass from Gary Danielson and ran at ninety seven yards for a touchdown cocaine made it too hard for him to avoid Lt kept his drug use a secret and he made sure never use it on game days no idea that he was living a double life. Linda recalled finding a small baggy of cocaine and Lt coat pocket during a visit to New Jersey or managed only nine touchdowns with twenty two interceptions he was sacked thirty one times things on that side of the ball didn't seem to click and Lt much of what it was said about him was speculation and gossip teammates who lockers were next to L. Tease the men closest to them and who knew him the team finished three and twelve with one tie the defense however wasn't the problem it was the offense starting. QB Scott Brunner he grew frustrated he began to show up late for practice or missing entirely when parcells called him out on this behavior lt shifted the blame awesome self and onto his teammates he wasn't the problem they were but parcells refused to give up on his star player he continued I draw backs and so forth on each side of the middle linebacker was an outside linebacker this where lt lined up outside linebacker on the field and the biggest celebrity in New York fans eight up his ability to quickly and perfectly time getting off the line of scrimmage even though the USFL didn't have the same cachet as the NFL Lt decided to hear the man out without his agent's knowledge headed reputation continued to grow other teams would create their offensive strategy based solely on where Lt was going to line up happy with the giants healthy received a lifeline from the owner of the New Jersey generals of the short-lived US F. L. Donald trump relation both on and off the field by the end of the nineteen eighty-four season Linda and Tj at finally with trump he earned a new six hundred and fifty thousand dollar yearly salary that would rise to roughly one point one million by nineteen eighty six and -nificant res L. T. only agreed to re sign with the giants if bill parcells kept his job coach parcells always had his asked rusher from the outside whenever the ball snapped lt blasted through the offensive line looking to drag down the quarterback because of his side linebacker the one that lines up opposite of the quarterback was considered the most important position on the defense they did everything blitzes cover position as rumors swirled about ourselves future Lt was also growing frustrated with his contract as word got out that he wasn't and Lt came crashing through like a train and the last thing you wanted to be was in his way around the league itself Lt's feared was already in the hot seat in fact word was going around the papers that University of Miami coach Howard schnellenberger would be offered the giants head coaching not agreed to play for trump when his contract with the giants expired after the nineteen eighty-seven season when Lt's agents learned of this deal back now it was time for lt to return the favor by the end of the talks lt got everything he wanted he was able to buy out his agree of all bill parcells kept his job all thanks lt who found himself in an unprecedented position of power within the organs the results were almost always the same number fifty six taking down the quarterback prior to Lt's entrance into the league the inside it was more of a reactionary positions keep the eye on the ball and from there determine what to do Lawrence Taylor was different he was more of a they met with both trump and giants GM george young to renegotiate Lt's contract with giants in addition to demanding a cigar joined Lt in New Jersey and he led the giants to a nine seven record and another playoff appearance twenty five year old Lt was the biggest thing and bring down the likes of joy war ski thighs men Ken O'Brien Todd Blackledge Joe Montana it didn't matter how many men were supposed to block it him other defenses began to employ this strategy into the outside linebacker position but for his heart is lt hit sometimes adding extra tight ends the block and win defensive coordinator Bill Bella check picked up on it they would move lt two different part of the line of scrimmage aggressive one football by its very nature is violent and with that violence comes injury lt himself suffered from a few concussions he never did so with the intention of hurting anyone that was the last thing he ever wanted to do l. t. wasn't a dirty player by any means just in during his early years but no matter how much you train to protect yourself or others accidents are bound to happen to Lt's great lament he was involved in one of the worst NFL hits in history a hit that ended another player's career going in into week eleven of the nineteen eighty five season the giants were seven and three they were scheduled to play the Washington redskins on Monday night football he turned around and toss the ball back to as men they were executing flea flicker classic trick play intended to buy a wide receiver some time to make it where Lt was lining up size men's snapped the ball and immediately handed it off to fullback Joe Riggins as riggins began to run up the middle on November eighteenth it was the second meeting of the season the first resulted in a giants victory seventeen to three in the second quarter the scores was tied seven to seven Washington had the ball like every quarterback who faced Lt Joe thighs men paid close attention to Lt's addiction would soon take control of him coming up the Super Bowl is finally me he had suffered a compound fracture has everyone waited cameras captured a physically distraught Taylor has he waited for off of thighs men and started screaming for help motioning for doctors and trainers on the sideline thighs man's leg was unnaturally bent below the eighty five would be thirty six year old Joe Thighs Men's last game during the recovery he made the decision to retire in subsequent years Lawrence Taylor's sites and so are the repercussions for his crack addiction now back to the story he was able to keep it hidden from his teammates at that time it was up to individual teams to conduct their own internal drug tests is meant to be taken off of the field lt loved to hit hard but he never wanted to end another man's career November eighteenth nineteen hits in NFL history for Lawrence Taylor it signaled the descent into a deeper addiction to crack cocaine by this time Lt had moved lt claims that during huddles he would begin to think about his next fix instead of the game itself and now that Linda was settled in New Jersey moved from snorting cocaine to smoking it by rolling it up in his cigarettes and it was once he transitioned into smoking the drug that Lt betrayed organization if player tested positive for an illegal substance all the team would do was recommend he entered treatment at some point Lt had a hard time hiding his addiction from her it's unclear when Linda finally came to realize that Lt was a crack addict zone mantra the drug now took control of him he went from using less than a gram or a couple of lines over the course of a few weeks he's not refused to talk about the hit whenever it was replayed for an interview Lt made sure to never look at the monitors back in ninety he ignored parcells advice and devised a way to beat any future drug test in his books about the nineteen eighties giants with performance enhancing steroids not yet in the picture teams were mostly on the lookout for players abusing their bodies with recreational drugs within the was what led to his escalated use of crack that year the timing is hard to ignore as the nineteen eighty five season progressed to buying multiple announces every week on the rush from cocaine now eclipse the rush he felt from football in fact when she found out she did what she could to try and help her husband get control of it but lt didn't want help and so- Linda and Lt's aid into would sometimes be forced to scour New York crack dens to bring lt home but while he wasn't able to hide his addiction from Linda are in Teaneck and then take Manhattan by storm bouncing from studio fifty four to the underground to sweetwaters to the seller to rascals has been playing days it was a low point in Lt's thriving career but the nineteen eighty five season wasn't just the season with one of the most notable what he loved partying as Lt put it himself on a typical night I pick up one of my pals and start our adventure at a Bar Liam keep the test quiet he advised Lt to seek treatment in New York but left it at that however lt didn't think he had a problem our producer Jerry Barca says that running back butch wool folk man who stayed clean from both drugs and alcohol would supply lt with clean urine it up. Lt's vices that was just the tip of the iceberg Lt was also addicted to women but then again that had been true ever since not would return to his hotel room with multiple women on each arm while Linda was back in New Jersey raising the children lt was in some city having I am on Sundays in the fall he was game ready and he swore to never take drugs during the game itself the linebacker knew something bad had happened immediately he could hear the pop as if a gun had gone off right next to him he jumped

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Kyle Pucciarello

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

1:12:42 hr | 8 months ago

Kyle Pucciarello

"I really, every show in that stand was the feeling of. I mean this happened so. We can talk about it. Now, we're talking about a little bit later, but I saw all ten shows at giants stadium back in two thousand and three I was I was still just between high school and college, and it was one of those things where after like whichever night you go man. How does he top that? You know here we are fifteen years later and it's the same like how how can you top the twenty third and the? Like well, he can't top that and then it comes in you're like well Jesus you can't top that and then I saw him in Philly a week later and he did to four hour in minute shows or whatever that even better go my God it was just it was a that was such a magical ending to. To that tour and hopefully it's not the last time we see Rousson the band but I mean God if it has to be what a, what a what a way to go out. l., everyone and welcome to a new episode of set listening Bruce Your podcast all about Bruce springsteen his. Fans I am your host Jesse Jackson and joining me today is a fellow podcast her. a springsteen fan, a an educator, and. I assume a fan of all Chicago. Sports. Well originally from New Jersey. So Then, we do need to talk about that. So Kyle, welcome to the show I will not try to say your last name please say it for me. It is Putin Elo. Terrell. Okay very nice. Well, Kyle Puccio rally I am so glad you're here tell us a little about yourself. You just said you grew up in Jersey but give us a little bit more. Yeah, you're so. I am teacher I've been a teacher for about ten years now and I'm doing that in the north suburbs of Chicago at the moment. In my life I've done jobs ranging from public library work in New York City to a little bit of a freelance journalism over the years I've had my hand in playing music live in. New. Jersey and New York done a little bit little bit of everything and kind of settled into this teaching thing and it's it's been really joy. It's a little tough right now during the coronavirus teaching remotely I don't care what what they tell you it is it is hard. It is it is it is double the efforts and it's been it's been a challenge but two weeks then were figuring it out and doing the best we can for for our kids. How are you dealing with the pandemic? You'd get. Okay you. Stand. Safe. Yeah, it's been. You know I'll say. Being in Chicago it's actually been pretty good especially in the past few months as the war the weather has gotten warmer. Lot of places doing a really nice job with outdoor patios there are enough parks where you're still allowed to go for a run or take the dog for a walk with challenging is I. I was supposed to have a wedding back in New Jersey actually in Asbury park the old Howard Johnson's building Let's now MC loons I was supposed. To get married there and on June twentieth, but obviously couldn't do that. So we did We did like zoom wedding out on our front porch here in Chicago had a handful of local friends and then our friends back home could see. So we're hoping that things calm down by next summer when we can. We can try again then. So that's been the only. You know. Obviously. Under the umbrella of this has all been such a challenge. You know that's been the only real drastic shift If anything it's given me I think as it has a lot of people a chance to reflect you know take some time off and really think about what's important and know what you want be doing with your life. Yeah couple ago we were talking and you know one of my guests mentioned said that in the grand SCO scope of things with so many people losing their lives it is You want to keep things in perspective but for the reality is there, there will need to be a mourning period of the small things we lost I was supposed to go see the eagles for the first time canceled. You know. GonNa go see. Lilly hiatt perform who's John Hi daughter Big Fan of her got cancelled you know. I've got plenty of friends that their their son or daughter graduated from high school. No real ceremony note domino. No things a wedding that should be this massive celebration with friends and family and a party there. It's still just as much a wedding and it's still special but it's there is something missing there. And and that's just the and that was decision we had to make. Was it hey, we want to put people at risk want pictures of people in Master people being afraid to dance and really sure what is and and I want to go back to what you said about concerts real quick because I mean we had. So much plan. The Rolling Stones, and I was actually watching some youtube clips of the Bruce show from four years ago over in the back of new. Jersey metlife on August twenty fifth that incredible three three. Thousand. And I it was great camerawork where the person who had the camera was real close on Bruce during one part of the song they turn the camera around and you could see the crowd and you and I have been you know in that hit before and yes seen seventy thousand people singing along and I do a pretty good job of keeping things in perspective. But I have to say that hit me like a ton of bricks last night going Oh my God i Miss that so much and you know when when can we have? Or were you at any of? Those shows I was I was a so I was still living in New Jersey at the time I've lived in Chicago now just over three years. So I actually I did the first two shows we flew out to Chicago because we had plans, he played Bruce Played Chicago on the twenty eighth. We flew back to New Jersey on the thirtieth. Our friends picked us up at the airport. We went to the parking lot of giants stadium got in right before. New York City serenade started. So yeah, I saw four shows and I guess in a week. So I, I, it's awesome. I had the home field advantage for for a long time in New Jersey so Funny Story When he announced the shows You know we made the decision alley scales reached out to me and said, look if you get yourself to New York you know you could stay at my house. and. See Won't have any hotel bills and we'd love to have you. So Chris and I flew up in. So we had tickets for the twenty fifth show and you know we got in on the twenty four hours and we we went into Manhattan met Jim Tola because he was at a He was at a a different event. for a beer that we're going there, and then we had a good friend of mine another podcast for for dinner and so everyone was talking about the twenty third show and. Did I picked the wrong night. Like because you know everyone was talking about the twenty third, how Maj was you know and it was, yeah you know serenade with an orchestra and all the things are going in like okay. Did did I picked the wrong night and then you know he starts out with serenade we got. You know jack-of-all-trades with the strings strings. Yeah. Yeah. we got the marriage proposal. During. Jersey girls right on that one and it's the only time and I don't know if it will ever happen again kyle but. When the last of Jersey girl ended and the fireworks went off. I said. I've had enough. You know what? I know I'm not gonNA say one more you know I'm I'm sated. This is perfect. And because always in the past you know it's like. One More Song Bruce. I'm greedy Swat one more and that was the first time. Ever it it it broke right at four hours I know there's debate on you know when you start the clock, but it was roughly for our show it was beautiful. My son was there with me we had a great time and I was like. This was good. I'm I'm really happy. I was there I agree with you that was really every show and that stand was the feeling of. I mean this happened. So we can talk about it. Now we're talk about a little bit later, but I saw all ten shows at giants stadium back in two thousand and three. I was I was still just between high school and college and was one of those things where after like whichever night you go man, how does he top that here? We are fifteen years. Later, and it's the same like how how can you top the twenty third and the twenty? Like well, he can't top that it comes in your like Jesus you can't stop that and then I saw him in Philly a week later ended to four hour and six minutes shows or whatever that even better go my God it was just it was that was such a magical ending to. To that tour and hopefully, it's not the last time we see Rousson the ban but I mean God if it has to be what what what way to go out you know yeah, I ended up this was the first show that I had seen. I. I I had. This was the first one. I've seen five shows right I like I ended up going to river shows, and then when on the second leg he went to Oklahoma City Dallas like okay. Well, Oklahoma City's a few hours away gotTa go dead Dallas on my home I gotta do that, and then when I got a chance to go so funny story right I had been working for a company a little less than a year and it it wasn't. It wasn't a good fit they they they liked to me but I like them but I just I don't think. We were in sync with what customer services supposed to be an an and the guy was a self made millionaire but he literally had never had a boss like in high school. He started a yard business that became very successful. He sold it went to Texas tech out of Texas Tech, pick it up again and has he'd never worked for anyone but he you know and so very great guy but when. He says in, you've taken a lot of vacation this year. And I said, well, you know the the guy had hired me ended up leaving has it well, you know he gave me three weeks vacation he said Yeah but you don't have to take kids. Like Brandon you know he never takes his vacation. Now we end up paying him for him, but you know I I want you to be here. I'm like well, I've already paid for my airline tickets. Do you need me to camp? No No, no I just. I. Don't want you to do that and especially like. You've you've already seen. This guy wants this year one why do you want to go see him again and I didn't have the courage to go? No this'll be the fifth time I've seen this store. It's different every night. It's different every day. So. Funny. It's funny trying to explain that to people and you know my my wife now. been together eight years in total. She seemed Bruce Now probably twenty five times and she. She went to to say her first show with me was was the birthday show at Giants Stadium in two thousand and twelve. The one that had the rain delay I mean she she got it immediately. So we got we got to say this guy every time it comes around and she being New Jersey you're. And Bright. Fans, but I got to throw it back to. I had a teacher when I was in high school because you know it's a little weird I mean especially then for a teenager to be an Uber, Bruce springsteen fan and it wasn't always the case but I had an English teacher named the Mr Quek. And he was a big Neil Young Fan. And he would see him whenever he could. But now he had a family and he had bills and it was different and he told me then he's like you know. See these people while you can if you see them as much as you want to if that's what you're passionate and you love it, hey you know do it because there's GonNa come a time where they're gone. or You can't anymore and you know I've been lucky to see you know bb King a bunch of times I saw Chuck Berry. It wasn't wasn't a very good show but I've seen all my idols I've seen all these people that I worship as a kid and still hold in the highest regard and you know that was advised that really rang true. So I wasn't a kid that was spending money on really really much except for except for shows you know something that I still impassioned about like I said it's one of those things that hit me real real hard last last night like wow. Yeah it's been. X AMOUNT OF MONTHS SINCE I've. and. It'll be x amount amounts more so we can do it again. Yeah I mean you you. I routinely pull up the dream baby dream video and which is just I think it is the. Is the live you know it is is film proof and My friend Sam listen is the first one to say this to me but I repeat it all the time with all apologies the Walt Disney. The happiest place on earth is a springsteen concert. And that video captures that you know like over seventy percent of the video is the crowd, not the band and it captures it and it's just an amazing moment. I love that you had a teacher that was that influential to share that. You know that that's great which does kind of get me back good segue to Kyle, we start at the beginning. So talk about growing up what what kind of music did your family listen to where they big music buffs and talk about growing up you know without also. Sure so I was an only child I'd always Two things I always did as a kid throughout really my late twenty s was play baseball and listening to music and play Guitar and there was a brief moment in where. I kinda chose I was taking baseball very very seriously in my head. It was I got to do one or I gotta do the other music kind of went away. So when I was young, you know my parents were big in the country music. So. Like and it's it's the names I'll mention like, yeah there was Alan Jackson and we had the billy ray Cyrus album share but we did you know Marty Stuart. Can Remember Melissa Ethridge is like that and as I say, these names hey, that some some music that makes sense you know Marty Stuart has that Twangy telecaster sound and he's three of music. So did interrupt she did you see him? Did you see the Ken Burns Country Music Documentary didn't he? First of all? It's fantastic. Instead of all Mardi store was all over the thing he was amazing I mean. Didn't you just like, okay I want to be at a diner with him just just let's let's let's you know drink coffee and or at a bar and just tell stories I just want you to keep telling stories any. He's one of those those guys like Bruce's that you could just you feel like exactly you could sit and just just just put your your your hands under your Chin and just tell me more Mario. Yeah. Exactly. So there was a lot of country music in the House and then you know when you're in school I, think I think around that time fourth fifth grade it was this is another one that will make sense like Hootie and the blowfish blew up. If you of think about if you if you if you go back and listen to that crack review album, there's a ton of Bruce springsteen influence in that and that kind of picked up where Bruce really wasn't around at the moment and I look I look back as a at that's the as. I was planning the seeds without even knowing it because by the time high school rolled around I kinda dropped music a lot almost entirely and you're listening to whatever was on. MTV. Ever Know Britney Spears or Baxter Ray Martin or whatever it was and what I will say the odds Segue for me and Bruce, and it makes me laugh to this day was Bon Jovi. Bon Jovi had hit at at the they had. It's my life and they were getting a ton of play on the radio and MTV and vh one and I saw Bon Jovi at the stadium and that seemed like, Hey, this is. Wow great rock and roll band and whatever and somehow. I just started digging and and I've been like that for the rest of my life is okay. Where do these guys come from? WHO. Did they listen to? What is that all about and then I stumbled upon Bruce One summer I listen to nothing but bruce, this was right. After the reunion tour end it was writer net July two thousand and I did nothing but listen to Bruce and I came into school that next year as the As a disciple and. You know I felt very alone but I knew I found somebody that I could believe in that was. Authentic that spoke to me. You know it seemed like and I still feel this way when I listened to the to the album's he. Also this, it sounds like he's speaking directly to you or directly about you and how does he do it? And you just felt like somebody was putting their finger on the thing that you felt but couldn't express and it just it just changed my life. Yeah. I assume you sane blinded by the light the movie, right? You're one of those kids. But how right here's a Pakistani in kid in the United Kingdom that's having this Jersey singer. He's speaking for me and I just I think that's why I love the movie so much is that universal? Feeling that he is saying something for me it is that what you think mostly captivated you that a because I always ask that question in it's hard. It's it's hard to pinpoint why for some people? When I think about it often I I write about it. Sometimes, I have an article that will be posted on the website by the time this comes out that's about jungle land and really about born to run the forty fifth anniversary but You know it really is and it it. It always reveals itself in new ways and when the Broadway show. Came out or when the book the autobiography came out around the same time I mean I'm reading this thing and even just he's talking about up in north. Jersey, just just south of the meadowlands, there's this little am radio relay station, which he's written about an in a couple of songs and he writes about that and he talks about like every time I drove up there with my parents. I thought that's all the music is Elvis's living inside that little and I'm like me too. That's that's exactly what I thought and he's tall telling stories about streets that I also grew up on the streets that I picture because I'd been there you know dozens of times and. Yeah I I think maybe above all else but just I mean just listen to his DJ sets the the respect I have for him as a human being as someone who hasn't really. Let us down you know. It it's just it's a, it's a whole package. It's very, very rare with our heroes as we find out more and more every day But I guess if I had a pinpoint one thing you know that that is what it is. It's just somebody that. As an introverted kid in New Jersey that didn't really friends with a lot of people but didn't really fit into any one group new I had some things I wanted to express in the how to do it. Here's a Guy Sorta showed you the way you know Yeah I. Totally Echo that and it's Ron Martz, who's a writer who's been on the show? He was on and we talked about the. Dj sets the from my home deers and he said that. we know he's a great storyteller, so we shouldn't be shocked that. No matter what. Mode what Vinoo. He uses to tell stories he's going to be brilliant at it. It still shocks us and I was I mean I knew because at Times A. Bruce can be an awkward interview by going to the almost the only time that doesn't work sometimes as when he is being interviewed. Right? It is almost because he does a lot of laughs at his own joke and being self conscious and in. I think when? Like the. South, by southwest where he did the keynote speech, he's written something out. That's brilliant. But when you're just talking to him. It can come across a little awkward but. With, him weaving the choice of the songs. The introduction to them. in the diversity of music he picked. as much as I think if before this had happened you had asked your audience. If we had asked our fan fellow fans are do you want bruce to do a live show from place acoustical songs or would you like an play other people's songs like I? Think most of us like, oh no no let's do some acoustical sets and now then I would go no I as much as I love to hear. Him Play Music hearing. This has given us so much more insight into his his personality, his beliefs and in his love of music and sharing that it's been pretty something special what I mean yeah. You just you just said it's he is. He is continually searching right? He keeps listening he keeps wanting to be inspired and it's his passion that he somehow finds a way to express to us that then in turn makes us. Right and it's it's a logical extension what he's been doing of really his whole career but in a way they kind of play out like like the Broadway show a little bit. There's a story being woven through this hour and he's going to tell it in words and he's GonNa tell it in song and yeah, it's it's brilliant and and what else? What else do you expect from the guy? When has he hunt? And in the the diversity of win he was so angry, he did. A politically angry about the way things are. Way Things are in the black wise matters and segment, but then also childish Gambino in the Jay Z. in there in Konya Yeah. But then he did the summer and his memories of being a summer and just being barefoot and going to the beach and and just this joy of capturing it and this latest one about the night you know everyone was like, oh, it's happening at midnight. He's going to announce a new studio everything. No, he just was a night. Alan wanted to do it in and I tweeted I was laying in bed I had my I had the serious APP on my phone playing the music and I felt like I was a teenager again with the transistor radio of next to it and it just it was just a beautiful way to hear that music. Yeah I I agree and We're GONNA. I just lost my train of thought. So we can cut that out later. So I I completely agree. That night one was another one where most of the stuff he was saying? I was like well, he said something about you know he likes being awake at night because he's alive when everybody else when the straight world is asleep I think is what he said and I was like, yes, that was that was me for really my whole life until I gotta start, waking up at five thirty and exactly and even then. All right. So how I always like to preface this question with I am a firm believer the amount of times you've seen Bruce Perform live is not fair barometer of how big of a fan you are. There's a lot of circumstances to go into You know where you're born your age, how much money you have but for the record, have you counted the number of times you've seen him live and and share. That's how that's what we do. In fact reduce. Yes, we do. You're standing in line and you you know you trade notes So I have seen Bruce One hundred eighteen times and I don't include know little jumped up on a club which are obviously some of the most exciting. Full shows light a day stuff like that I. saw my first show. So again, I'm in my early thirties. Again, New Jersey helps I saw my first show August tenth two thousand and two in Washington DC because I could not get tickets for for New Jersey or New York and didn't know any other way at the time to get tickets. So went down the DC was even more converted, and then my my show was was a great one was a legendary one was the one in Atlantic City, March seventh two, thousand and three Friday night and my wife always always like how do you know how do you remember these days? How do you remember these dates? I could tell you the settlers. That's just how we are. You Mark, you mark the passage of time. By some of these things but a I've been very, very lucky to. Be Able to do this to have parents who it you know. My parents were not. Big springsteen fans not sure that my father's even is to this day but my mother was funny. We were driving home from somewhere I. Don't I don't remember when and I if it was in my car that times bruce no matter what and we were playing the wild and the innocent album and Rosalita POPs on. And at the little break down the light and then and then and then. She she did it she like saying it out loud and we both kind of turn each other like wait a second. She'd always been telling me all that guys. No good. His voice is bad. He screams the kind of jokes you always here. And she's like I used to play this song all the time back when I was younger and then she came to a couple of shows with me and then she became a fan and you know it's funny to see how Lou Bruce's passion inspiring others. I can't tell you how many of my friends I've turned on the Bruce. Sure. Absolutely and now they're going to twenty one friend who his I kid you not his favorite musician of all time Britney Spears this and he has seemed Bruce Forty seven times. That's nice. That's a great story. I WANNA I wanNA I. WanNa. Make. A note here I I. I had teacher he actually wasn't my teacher. but I was in school is probably my junior year high school and we needed a sub. Now he was an English teacher in the school but I guess he was covering a class and this guy walks in and he not only does he look like bruce a little bit but he's wearing like a street band tour Sherp. God like. I don't have anyone else talked about this some let's talk and I've been friends now with him for. Twenty seven years not twenty seven to seventeen years. That's awesome and we've gone to countless shows together And it's just one of those rewarding things like you said so many friends that you meet through this community and the kindness and generosity that you. You. Experience through them as even even that ticket I got to go to Atlantic City in two thousand three. That was A. The old AFL. Message Board. Somebody on there I mean I was young kyle I was the youngest member of the group by a mile and somebody knew I wanted to go they. They told me hey I'm going to drop ticket off at the The wolf call don't bother pay me. It's fine. So what? It's fine go it's fine. I had to get permission from my parents. They had a drive me because I I was only sixteen. I couldn't drive by myself. Yet we go down there's a ticket me. It's the third row next to Clarence and The rest is history. That's awesome. That's a great story. do. Let's let's spend a little time talking about special songs and albums You know we're coming up on the anniversary. It'll be after this by the time I released this one, but we're recording the week of the release of born to run but You know you You became passionate in two thousand and two. That's what I became passion two, thousand and two. We just have a few years between I was a casual fan like everyone else I certainly knew hungry heart and had bought the river had listened to it couple of times but wasn't obsessed with it like everyone else born in the USA I had bought I bought of love in the box set. It was just a casual fan and then when I saw him live the first time in Dallas. Two thousand to the rising tour in I've said this many time right to. The first person that goes through their first concert goes boy that was long and then the other person that says, Oh my goodness I lynn can I go do this again and I was that time so but it was e you just it. You had a huge catalog to go back and immerse yourself. So talk about favorite albums or favorite songs. Sure I mean I. A friend of mine had given me the seventy five, eighty, five box set. So I actually started it's funny I started there and my friend who loves Britney Spears he was always into entertainment weekly what was coming out and tracks had come out fairly recently and he burned a copy of tracks. So I had tracks and seventy, five, eighty five to start with, which is very interesting. Way To bet is an interesting. And but but that lot obviously, you know tracks has become one of my favorite records like so many. But that seventy five, eighty, five record as flawed as it is and we'll have our debates about it on back streets but. That was as close as I could get to a live show and I could just tell there was something special. There was something different I remember listening to I whatever it's hard to be as saint in the city was I had never really heard anything like that before Adam raise the cane i. it's it's kind of a strange song in the darkness documentary they describe it is. Like a couple having nice picnic and this song is the when when when the when the movie cuts, the song is dead body and like. It's a weird song, but it just it. It did it for me and raise your hand and that just set me on this path. So I went back like I said earlier and kind of listened to everything but you know if I think of. It so hard to do favorite songs, favourite albums but I think it's something that Bruce's said that you know over the years songs kind of can change their meanings. Where you're at when you're listening to them and You know the river didn't mean as much to me. When I first heard that fifteen because it's dealing with relationships and it's dealing with things that I had no perspective on at the time. Born to run was the one for the longest time. I was in New Jersey Kid who has bruce's mentioned many a time. You always feel New York you always know it's there. You always know that that's that's the place to be. And even though it's only a hop over the bridge, it can feel like thousands of miles away and so that the born to run album just felt. It felt like my youth it still does feel like my I listen to it last night to celebrate the anniversary and. I I hear new things in it. Now backstreets means something a little different to me than it did ten fifteen years ago but you know the rising, you mentioned two thousand and two I mean living on the East Coast when nine eleven happened and the album that comes out of that. And that and that was my summer I mean that was everywhere I went. So seem to the rising and my girlfriend at the time listened to the rising and But for me the one I come back to more than anything else some my favorite songs alive is darkness. And you know that kind of fits that in the river kind of fit where I'm at in my life right now you know but I just identify with those those working class songs identify with the as Bruce said the measuring of the. American, the distance between the American dream in the American reality and somebody WHO's pretty politically plugged in. Those songs still resonate the they still sound as fresh as ever in their civil as necessary as ever. So I. I find myself going back to them often, and when I play guitar on my own, those are some of the songs I still. Love going back to more than anything else. So if I would say darkness of would be the Pantheon. The one eight to these several several one beasts and. All right. So I I'm going to get back to it because you've shared with me you've got a few stories on the road. But I'm GONNA tease that and I'm going to shift gears and talk to me about your podcast. Sure. Thanks. So. As we mentioned earlier in the podcast. Maybe the only silver lining to this whole pandemic has been a chance for everybody to slow down and I want my Undergrad at Rutgers University was journalism and that was where I thought I was going to go and I graduated and the recession happened, and you know, I don't have to tell you what happened was it was devastating for a lot of people absolutely for me. It men couldn't find a job I'm suddenly competing against people who just got laid off of the new. York Times and I did some freelance work here and there for the Star Ledger or some other smaller local papers in New Jersey and I kinda gave it One last shot, and I had this moment of knew I wanted to teach at some point And I kinda was at this crossroads of I ended up getting a job at a major major. Entertainment Network and I got into Grad School for teaching the same day. And I made a decision to go with teaching one. I do not regret but. Having, now been in that world for thirteen years twelve thirteen years. This moment. Was Hey, you know I I left a lot of that behind you know and it's something I'm so passionate about still something I. Think I'm pretty good at and I wanNA I. WanNa take a turn at it. You know So the the the website and the podcast it's called the flyover www dot the fly over dot site somebody has the flyover dot com but they're not using it so just like Bruce Springsteen dot com bruce, springsteen dot net right? And so the the articles range from you know just commentary on music or movies or current events and the podcast kind of those the same like you. I have recently started interviewing folks from all walks of life. I had somebody on the talk about how the pandemic has impacted media somebody who works in a major media network and How that's shifted how not being in the studio has changed things I just spoke with. Somebody who just a very into baseball also works for a major media networks that we discussed some some ways that baseball has changed and I'm looking forward to continuing to do those podcasts It's something that I'm not gonNA give up. You know where this time I'm not going to compromise that side of myself and. I I hope people enjoy it. I've only been doing it for two and a half months and every time I do something every week. Readership goes up a little bit. The listeners go up a little bit and and that feels good. Nice. People who I don't know who I've never met extensively are enjoying this thing and that's a cool thing and that's that's why you do it. So I, I hope it's something that I get to continue for a while and who knows where it takes me. So. It's just kind of a general topic blogging podcast just for. It is I. Mean I've I've toyed with you know whether or not I wanted to take it in just a singular. But. perhaps that's one of my flaws in terms of a career or something was I'm always somebody that I'm very very interested in in a handful of different things and it's always been hard for me to say just just that thing So yeah, I mean I was always a big fan on if you're familiar with like Bill Simmons and those kinds of podcasts or that kind of writing where he might. Tackle sports most of the time, but he'll touch on musical touch on movies and stuff like that. So you know as as I continue like I said, we're in our third month. Now you know perhaps the format will shift a little bit maybe a little more specific but as somebody who teaches you know I've I've I've touched on those topics is wall. So there's a there's a lot that I enjoy discussing analyzing. For what? It's worth Kyle I say go with your passion go with where it flows I've got a really nice compliment last week A Guy is a regular listen listener to the doctor who podcast I co host and I picked at him. I said you know, hey, you never send an email. To set lusting groups. He's like I don't listen to sell thing, Ruth. And, I. So I had Charles my co host with the doctor parks join me onset lusting bruce and Cyrus doubts and I said Okay now you've gotta listen he did and he's listening a couple of times in we're talking and he said you know I think you brand your podcast incorrectly. So. What do you mean? He says, well, you say it's a Bruce Springsteen podcast but I think it's really more of a music podcasts that's hosted by Guy who loves Bruce Springsteen And and I liked that compliment in in I I was asked. Ken Rosen is going to do an article about the podcasting five years for backstreet. And he says, yeah, I was really honored and he said it seems like you've been having different. Gaston. Not Just Bruce Fans are you getting away from that format and I go? No. I think that will always be the bread and butter of the PODCAST I love talking to Bruce. Sharing Stories but I also love talking to people about passionate about. Their other musicians or their writing or in just just I just I I never think I'll be Larry King but I think if I if if I could be, that's what I want. I WOULD WANNA be Larry King and just do an interview of just fascinating people will hopefully, you wouldn't have the seven wives. But no I. Think. That's a great point that that that you make because I wrote an article for my website. It was inspired by our. State of our country and political goings on and I was looking at Anthony Bourdain. And it was a two year anniversary of his passing and you know it's exactly what you said. It's what was his skill. His skill was finding people that he is diametrically opposed to politically belief systems everything what they find that commonality they find. Let's sit down. Let's break bread together and let's have a conversation and you know that that is a lot what you do. Right you Bruce Jumping off point we have this thing we've broken down a barrier. We know we have it, and now we can go anywhere. You know we can talk about whatever we want. So I I think that's that's the beauty of these conversations and you just hope that We can do that more and more as a country you. Yeah. So Living in Chicago did you. Did you transport any of your sports allegiance to local teams or are you ve remained faithful to whatever you grew up watching are rooting for? That's a good question. So I grew up as a as a Yankees and cubs fan and a bulls fan and I was the Haida. Jordan. So that was firm and. I talked about on a podcast I did I would come home from school and wgn would be on and there'd be Harry Carey talking about God knows what and you're like, wow, I got listen to this crazy guy and that's the cubs and that's Wrigley Field and So I was a fan as since since a kid. So that's kind of what even brought me here in the first place for the first time I ever came was hair I wanna see the field I want to go to a game and then the more I came back here it was. Wow there's the city has so much to offer. It's really hard on a teacher salary to live comfortably in north. Jersey in Manhattan. It is not a thing that can be done easily and and here you know pricier them. But it's it's easier to do and so anyway, I've kept those teams and that was easy i. mean the Bulls are awful. So Hey, but no, I have become a bears fan I am still a giants fan and maybe maybe I should have become a bears fan because you know the giants look like they're going to be pretty dreadful for for quite some time. So but hey, we beat the Patriots twice, right? Hey, you guys have Jason Garrett now. Fantastic clapper. What we laughed is stand Gobert right does that he? He's written a book about the Jersey shore you know touring and I was on his tour actually the night after the springsteen show, right? That's I stayed up till. You know past midnight mid got up and went and. went to see a did his tour and is that all the shows that he was great but we're driving through you know we'd gone to we started freehold weekly gone by we seem the born to run house. You know we seen the church for took one of the early pictures and and the tree were Bruce was leaning against over we're driving out in staying goes Oh and you're the only person that car that will care. But that house is Jason, Garrett's Parents House. He grew up in this area and I'm like I knew that because as boring as Jason is when he's talking football. All three phases three phases got to win you know the. You know we're going to be playing Washington at forts at four fifteen on Sunday and Just one notch above bill belichick every just just no. they infect the sports station here you know. Made him a robot you know they're fake Jason was have to Reboot reboost system issue but you get him on and there is a The local rover Lonski who is the Dallas Morning News our local paper, entertainment reporter, and and then one of the sports. Reporters from the Dallas Morning News. They do they do every Wednesday night during football season intentional grounding they do show on Wednesday nights and every year on a bi week Jason Join them and he was fascinating because he talked about Bruce he talked about dillon he talked about in college doing his papers on this music he talked about in when he talked about music, you know He. He just came alive and I've said do my sports buddies like Jason got an extra four years before i. turned on him because he was at Bruce Fail like, okay. He was a cowboy. He's a good guy. He's in be regret that decision of giving him. Yes I do yes. I do very much because as a cowboy saying right like, okay. Get rid of we get rid of carrot top as my son Boston Okay. We pretty happy with Carney. I think that's an upgrade I think he's got potential You know we got really nice receiver for the draft you know like he's got his potential and then Covert happens yeah. Like what's going to happen with that and I say this as a giants fan I, and a friend of mine. Were the self-appointed Tony Romo apologised fan club, I I don't know what you're I would love to hear your take on. Tony I thought he was somewhat unfairly maligned for the back half of his career, a hell of a quarterback and you know, obviously, we all remember the one fumble. I need. He feels. But if you think about if if because he's the holder like he shouldn't have been holding you know the punter should have been the you know the normally it's the punter and the punter colds for the placekicker. They do this together if he had not held that ball totally different career or if it had not slipped or if he actually could have made it, he almost no I now. The down League there there are people here that believe Garrett destroyed the end of his career that because Jason did not get better. He did not improve the the offense did not work in you know. Look I'm like every. Aaron Rodgers and McCarthy. Should definitely have another ring on on Rogers Finger. And so no I think I think. It. Is unfair that. It in this is the way we do. This quarterbacks are judged by the amount of super bowls. They win the and it's you know you know in Marino. Made One but never won you know in in you know, I think Tony Romo he owns almost every passing record of the cowboys. He seemed like a really good dude he you know he he. He didn't take it too seriously. I. Know that Aikman Install Bax Kylie of him and that's pretty good. Ending for me so yes, I think. I think for every bad interception, he threw at the end of the game i. also think there were plenty where he brought us from behind I and then the defense couldn't hold it. And the flip side is my team where you had literally I duNno sixteen total great weeks of Eli Manning and pretty awful the rest, but it will take. Exactly I mean it you know and you know and ally one too. And so you compare the two right Eli is gonNA come out ahead because he's done that. Owning a team talent wise with quarterback knowing nothing else I who wouldn't take. Rome over. I would and I'm really pleased. I know he's still getting a lot of hate and as a cowboy fan I appreciate the fact that a Tex Schramm with the whole America's team and the arrogance of the cowboys I get why people hate us but we play in the Yankees yet is it is and it's just But I just think I'm so happy he's had success at CVS. I just and I think he is good and he's he's excited his passion we were talking about the yeah, he loves it and. Listen to especially because NANCE's. Not that way right? Exactly. So I think it makes for a great combination The local sports, the sports guys. have been fans of him. Now my morning show done Miller George. Dunham is a little like, okay. Tony quick trying to play pro golf you know like. Okay, you've been successful NFL quarterback. You know you're now in a broadcaster, you can't do everything just a quick drying but I figure. Let them try let him have fun. Yeah. That's that's funny. You mention that about Garrett I'd forgotten that but that that's a trip the that I've made I never did it with but I've I've done that myself every time I come home now and I think probably for you too is always that hope that like 'cause Bruce Talks about doing it yeah. Maybe maybe today's the day I'll send him at federal agencies in improving exactly. Yes. So. That's great. Well, good can continued lock on the PODCAST If you ever need a guest to talk you know Dallas sports or Tony Romo. I'll be there for you. That niche audience. Yeah. That that I, I'm trying to get It babe loss of Burke on the show you know he was a a backup cowboy backup quarterback and then he was an NBC he did a CBS local CBS affiliate sportscaster forever, and he i. met him at a Bruce Show. He was lying a beer and and I like babies high like, Hey, how you doing and? I said I remember you being on the radio talk about being a Bruce Show 'cause? Yeah. Yeah. He says, let me show you and he pulled a picture out of his pocket where he was like in the eighties or nineties he was at some beach like Caribbean island and Bruce was there and they got a picture taken together and he's like he's And I get the feeling like it's always in small at not just because he was going to a new show. Next time we chat I've got a story about a friend of mine who has it in front of his wallet even before his wife and his kids. Say That one. All right. All right. So I do WANNA get back to you mentioned you've got a couple of stories from the road. So please call talk to me a little bit share a couple, and if we if we're going to long on time, we can always have you back a second time. Sure. So that's actually why was transitioning back to that always hoping that Bruce's around the corner. So are we talking about you know meeting Bruce or? Your dealer's choice. All right. So I guess I guess that's where we are. So I will I will tell that style tell my story how about? Okay he's got to. I've got minor quicker but not as fun so. So my friend Tom. He's the he's fifty nine right now his first show was believe it or not the New Year's Eve show at. Nassau Coliseum. So talk could you pick a better I show for anyone than that? Wow, that's great. So now, he he would tell a story back in the eighties it was in between the river riverine born in USA Akron. Clarence had big man's West Club and red bank I believe and it was the same as it can be now but not the same you know it was much bigger back then hey, bruce is going to be the point tonight no, no, no, no no he's going to be at big man's west whatever so. He had five friends. He said Thomson Nope. It's going to be a big man's west and the rest of your crazy's going to be with What cat's on a hot tin roof is GONNA be over there and. That's not the name of that band. Is it I'm not sure. That made away whatever yeah. Whatever the house band at the pony was time. So his friends drop off and red bank they go to Asbury. So Tom is sitting there at the bar and the opening whatever band is playing and he's just kind of having a drink and sitting there and he turns any looks and. and. There's Max. And he's like Hey Max like you guys plan tonight and he goes well, you know we'll see. Then he turns around and he sees Gary Oh. Okay. Something's going on here and so he goes okay order another drink. As drink comes to me turns and Bruce Sitting. Right next to him. And Purse. On his any. So, you guys, please. Say we might we might go up and play a few turns out the entire street man jumps on the stage and they play a show at big man's west. So. The story gets even better. So he now the show's over, he wanders outside and there's nobody in the parking lot. He's waiting for his friends to pick them up. This is before cell phones as before any way to get in touch and there's a winnebago parked behind him he doesn't really pay it any mind and. opened the door of the winnebago out walks clarence. Hey man you can eat a ride you lost or something what's going on Tom Goes Oh you know my buddies want the stone pony tonight. I gotta wait for them got away from the company Clarence like well, why don't you wait with us while you're waiting for him? He's like what? So he gets on the Winnebago with Eastern man they're talking about the show they're talking about whatever after a while the guys go hey, look we gotta drive up to North Jersey. We're dropping off Max just like a crazy. This is insane right? Right exactly and these like and they go where do. You live and Tom Lived up in North Jersey at the time as well, and they're like, hey, that's literally on the way we'll drop you off and the story does not end well here because Tom said, no, he said I have to wait heroes. My friends won't won't know what happened to me I said, forget your friends you go. You tell them are you write something in the sand or the gravel that says with Bruce by like you go. So, he was faith rose rewarded and redeemed. About, fourteen years later he became a high school teacher and freehold he was an English teacher at the time and free freely highschool Bruce's old school and I mentioned federal agencies. It actually happened to him he would go to federal agencies. For Pizza Lunch break sometimes he's waiting for it turns rounds. He's a little old lady with the motorcycle helmet. And he knew enough that he was like. Pretty. Sure. That's Adele and soon enough in walks bruce got the motorcycle helmet on and Tom tells them. Hey you know Bruce Oh. Nice to meet you again bubble Blah we and this was right around the time of Ghost Tom Job. And he goes, Hey, you know we are just starting our Grapes of Wrath Unit and Oh. My God. It would be unbelievable if you could pop in even for a few minutes and talk to their kids, they would go crazy. You know typical Bruce. We'll see we'll see. So a couple of weeks go by. As he tells the story and he's teaching this class. And he gets a call on you know the the. The all know Mr Cantillon. There is a bruce springsteen here for you. He goes come on everybody knows he's a big bruce fan give me a break up whatever and so he pays no mind goes back to teach in five minutes later he gets the call again. No, he's here you need to come now. Lies Down to the office and Bruce was just about to leave its way and Bruce does he the way? Tom? Tells, Bruce goes you know I parked outside and and I couldn't I couldn't come in I just couldn't do it and then and I got in. And I left I figured okay and he was sitting he was sitting in the principal's office like a like a kid like this is too many bad memories, right so he comes into the room and he talks about how the book inspired him to write the songs and he's talking for half hour and he goes, Hey, you know if anybody has a guitar I'll I'll a few Goes Tom Jota a great record for high school students in one, thousand, nine, hundred six. But still what he's looking for a guitar and the funny thing about it was, there was a kid in the class that always brought a guitar who is sick that day he later went on to do sound professionally concerts. Or with Bruce towards the Josh Goldman so that honey as a happy ending. So anyway, he stayed a little bit longer and go back to your picture discussion. Tom Has this picture of him and bruce arm around each other and there are it's hilarious kids peering in through the window behind trying to see and get a glimpse and yes, that picture is still the first picture has wallet. It's one of those like you were saying about your friend just I just I just to have this picture as a person. You know it's just to amazing stories in a guy that's you know. Worships Bruce. Like we do and has seen him I. Think his number is I'll never catch him one, hundred, seventy, five or something like that. So. You know I love that story and in in reminds me I've told this a couple of times for a while. I didn't tear late on record but I had a guy who was on the podcast and we had a great interview. We had a fun discussion and you know after ended the interview and I always like Hey Jeff Fun thing and yeah, I had a great time great time. He's next time on I should tell you what I got drunk with eastern band. Like. Wait a second wait a minute. I, mean, you know I'm. If I'm at church some his hurry doing. Well, I'm good good is when I got drunk with Eastern Male, right? You know a that's hilarious. That's great now, but you have met Bruce couple, right? Yeah. I've been lucky enough. So I met Bruce. First Time, it was like two thousand three. At, the stone pony jumped onstage with joker shaky and I was. Closer to Bruce than I am to the computer monitor that I'm then I'm looking at on and at the end of the show or after the show I'm walking back to my car and I see the Range Rover and you know again we're we're all insane fans. We know no, that's bruises and I was like there's no one around. So I ran the my car had the box set of tracks sprinted my car had a power kept the pen came running back still just me and my friend Tom was actually there too and we're just waiting and then out that side door the stone. Out Walks Bruce and there is and all the sudden. You just see like ten people just pop up out of nowhere where does your go and I had this like movie moment of just being like shoved almost right into them and I'm I'm seventeen eighteen I'm. Terrified and. Excited beyond belief he ed what do you got there and you signed it. So I'm calling my friends that I was probably two thirty in the morning and they're like I don't care I don't exactly wonderful but the I met him. At, a little steven show when he play. Played a couple of years ago but the time the time that was the the best and where it's even close to a story like my friends. Bob Dylan played a long branch the college in Long Branch mammoth and two thousand eleven I want to say. And So it was for for Dylan standards. It was it was a pretty good show and I had spotted Bruce's I was walking out. Okay. That's cool and I'd been another show and Asbury Park where Bruce there and didn't play. And so okay, that's cool. Bruce's there. You know you don't think anything of it. So we're in the parking lot and there's a long line of cars to to get out and it's not going anywhere and hey, black range rover wants to cut in in front of me and my friend, my friend's driving. So I'm like we just let Bruce in. So now get out get out of the car, go go talk to them and and it felt weird about it. But I. did get out of the car and you know here, here's a guy who almost climbed the fence. It did climb the GRACELAND. So he he gets. So I just kind of walk around like I'm on my phone I mean traffic is at a standstill and a guy, go up to the car and they hey, how you doing you sign something whatever and this Is Not. What's important to me? I, I wish I had a picture with the MY I. Don't know why that's important to me but. The fact that like you meet these people and they live up to the things, you've heard the stories already told from my friends and the stories we all know so well, like he is that guy. He sees what I'm doing. I've got this phone. I'm talking to nobody he sees me goes come on come on over. So he like, let's me in his car. It's got him and and I believe it was Evan, was in the car yes. My Son Evan and I'm in the like. This is Bruce. House. My winnebago, you take me anywhere you WANNA. Guess. Where you WANNA go. Out So we started and he probably just didn't maybe he trusted me and he didn't want Democrat I don't know. But we start talking about how you know the show we started talking about Bob Dylan. Now, we're talking about like favorite Dylan, the songs and albums, and you know we this two thousand eleven. So this is just there were rumors that they were thinking about touring and figuring out how that might work post Clarence, and I brought that up and he's like he did the usual like. We'll see we're working on a few things. You know we gotta get out there soon, and then traffic start moving. All right I got this is your stop you gotta go and I didn't care you know like you said. Where that was enough I walked on clouds for. Weeks after you know I can imagine is unbelievable. It's it's just so nice that like I said at the beginning of the. PODCAST. This is a guy. You respect. You you. You worship him, you know his authenticity and not just as. Not just as music, but as a person down when those people live up to that and they continue to live up to those ideals, just makes being fan that much more special and makes you want to continue to support and and meet other people that feel the same way, and it's why doing conversations like this are so rewarding and it's totally the resided about guests. Right is just I You know my goal is I believe every springsteen fan has a story and my goal is to get as many of them captured. You know forever I want that. That's great. Now, did you did you not make a book signing? So no I I actually didn't make the book signing I was teaching at the time and whenever they went on the one in freehold went on it was kind of like sneak release. If I remember correctly lesser one really knew what time and I believe me I was building in my lesson plan like you go work for five minutes and I just missed it. So No, I didn't unfortunately did not get the do the do the book signing but I did get to do He was at town hall in New York City. got. To go to that and that that did come with the sign book I did not. I saw your picture where yeah. Yeah. I I drove down to Austin I told the story many times. So I won't. Totally, repeat it here but I started a new job I my my boss was really cool like, yeah you gotTa take the day go go and dry drove down to Austin and I I got that I came back and I was able to You know stood in line. You know said my last year I spent. Nine months unemployed and listened to better days land of hope and dreams every day and thank you for that and. I don't know if he heard it but it was more important for me to say it for him to hear it and I got the picture and there's two of them. There's one facing ahead and there's another one where I'm looking at him and all my friends say I look like I'm saying Bruce Yes do a to me do it to. My friends are horrible with. We've all had that moment to right absolutely. All Right, Kyle we've had a blast trait, but I can't let you go till the till. We asked Americans boy. Better not mess it up our no no no, you can't mess it up. So J Armstrong honor a teacher in the Philly, our area he is an honors teacher. He has his seniors every year they spend a couple of days in class discussing thunder road they break it down as appoint. He discusses all the imagery and and kind of what Bruce the what the meanings and the thoughts behind it and the themes comparing its rubber frost the road not taken. And at the end of the two days he looks at his class and he says, okay, tell me this mariot in the car. So Kyle that your question this Mary get in the car. So I remember seeing this on twitter one time you must have posted it and I actually responded I I never. It never even occurred to me the possibility that she didn't get in the car, right? And you know. I've I've thought about it since I've seen that I knew the question was coming up but having listened to it again yesterday. I personally believe unequivocally she gets in the car because that's still the part of the album that is the unencumbered youth that is this incident. As possible if we're together, we can make it. We can get out. Then you have the. Ken Rosen just wrote about this and I talked to him a little bit about it on twitter just tenth avenue freeze out and it's this. I'm Vasic Egotistical Song. That's very rare in Bruce's catalog and you have worn the run where hey, really setting in a little inborn to run. There's a little bit of darkness in but they're still together. You know I know it's not it's Marian Wendy but they're still together. Really. Until after that that. This person is sort of the you know the lone wolf for trying to figure it out. I I I I would be stunned if Bruce one day said Hey I've been listening to the podcast and she didn't get in I. I just don't I think that that song you know what? If you asked me if he if he put on that Acoustic version of thunder road that real slow Angelina Angelenos dress ways that vision. and. That input that at the end of the album like I was proposed at one point. Maybe. I'd have a different story for you maybe say, Hey, at the beginning, that's the dream and at the end that Acoustic version is the reality that that maybe it doesn't work out that way but its placement on the album the way it's played live the celebration that used to be between him and Clarence at that Coda of the Song I. Think she gets I think that's that's the hopefulness of the album that's that like you said that's the invitation. That's this. Something spacious is going to happen moment and you couldn't start the album off. Negativity you get their meeting meeting in jungle land where? The truth hits you. Great. Answer Kyle. Thank you very much. If someone wants to reach you give us your twitter handle and for once again, tell us your. Read your blog and listen to your guests. Sure. So if you want to reach me on. I'll just give you the the flyovers www dot, the flyover dot site. It's official fly over on instagram and twitter You on twitter you might also see kyle and Chicago twenty-three. It's sort of a hybrid account at the moment and if you wanNA reach me there. Oh always love talking to Bruce Fans and having conversations like these I really appreciate you having me on well Takao. This has been a blast I. I had so much fun talking to you. I know we'll do this again I'm sure that will will find an excuse to visit Bruce. Fans always find an excuse. There's always it's always a good time to talk springs Dana. 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There is No Tax on Love w/ Dr. Lin Morel - TT 127

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There is No Tax on Love w/ Dr. Lin Morel - TT 127

"Positive thinking will let you do everything better than negative thinking that is a quote by zig ziglar. Welcome to trina talk. This is the podcast. Were guests shared their stories of pursuing their passions living filled life and empowering others each week i talked with inspiring leaders business owners and people with amazing stories from around the world in unscripted conversations as they share their successes and failures. This podcast is all about empowering you to keep striving in your personal and professional life i am your host shrina l. Martin welcome to episode one twenty seven before i get into this week's episode. I'm excited to share with you. That i've been selected as one of the international speakers for sean fares leadership experienced tour. Twenty twenty one is happening. April tenth and troy michigan. I will be there on location on the stage and the topic of my speech is from a mess to amazing. I will be inspiring and empowering you to be resilient regardless of what may have happened in your life now. Although i'm going to be present their on stage vite you to purchase your virtual ticket at bit dot lee four capital l. e. t. Twenty twenty one. The topic of this week's episode is there is no tax on love my guest. This week is dr lynn morale doctor. Lynn supports entrepreneurs and leaders in developing heighten awareness unconventional thinking and greater clarity visionary thought leader author speaker eh facilitator. She has inspired thousands of people across the globe to step the creative expression of their spiritual essence purpose and destiny her journey through multiple traumas. Todd no matter what happens to us. We have a core of wisdom that will move us beyond our challenge into expansion empowerment and the ability to create lives better than we can imagine. Hi dr lynn. Welcome to train a talk or is so great to be. Your chain was so excited about. Today i'm excited to speak with you. I mean you are just a woman who is amazing. We were just talking pre record in. We have some similarities in our backgrounds. And i just love your energy. Your so positive. You're so uplifting in you're just doing amazing things in this world. And i want you to tell the listeners who dr lynn is embiid. Tell us what got you to be the person that you are today and your mission in life. Wow that's a great question. I i could spend years talking about that. But i'll be really brief. So my mission. In life is to help. People overcome their traumas. The things that would take them out having experienced some of that growing up. And i did not always smile now. I have a hard time keeping the smile off my face and so for me. What makes me tick in what got me. Here is being born to a mom who is bipolar. To father was an alcoholic very high functioning and so but the the trauma at six months old. Something happened where my mom tried to hurt me. So i went to live with the grandmother and grandfather and aunt and uncle and i stayed there 'til i was five but in that period of time the best way i could might be the best way to describe. My grandma was hurt person but very strong and so by the time i was five. Checking my dusting with a white blouse. Almost five-year-old and i had to sit perfectly on the couch crying proper while she walked as world terms that soap opera. And i could never do anything right. I couldn't pull the weeds good enough so i grew up in that first five years with being loved but also been conditioned that wasn't enough and so at five years old. I was heartbroken when my parents wouldn't give me up for adoption. And i was told i had to go live with my parents. My sister two sisters brother and that led to a period of. Let's just call it extreme dysfunctionality and so without going into the details I had call calling near life experience. Because i was sort of on the other side but i was watching myself actually is being strangled to five year old in a corner by somebody trying to date rape my my sister. So i couldn't wear turtlenecks for decades. And i didn't remember any of this until i started to wake up. So you know life became such that. I ran away at seventeen to go to college. I was the first in my family to go to college. My sister did go to juilliard. I'm not sure she finished. They didn't consider that college back. Then and i my saving grace. And i think we all have something inside. Arrested is like the the thing that keeps us going was chubby little size sixteen introverted fifteen year old could not chew. Gum walkers say a straight line. I was totally like pick lasts for everything. I was living out to not enough My younger sister wanted to take judo lessons. I didn't want to take judo lessons studio. So my sister-in-law quit before they start Became the designated chaperone. 'cause they weren't a lot of kids adults teenagers in judo. Classes all men. Basically and i was like a duck to water trina. I finally had something. That i had control over my body knows ever gonna mess with me again and i excelled in my excelling than they took away the thirty five dollars a month which is a lot in the sixties said. Kid she quit your out. And i was not about to stop. Because i found validation it was all men. I mean it's like i could throw them all and when they took away the my money and my rides sometimes they gotta right from parents. I got really creative. Because i had a goal and i was gonna get to that class and when i told my teacher would happen. He goes well. I'd like to teach the beginners now. I'm only in their three or four months when this happens so some of us come in here with a certain spark. You know it's like what is it that lights me up. Well being able to control my body being somebody in the class where. I was loved and accepted for who i was. That was the beginning of my long journey. Now is a long winded answer. But that's what got me started. Wow you know. I you know you said it's long winded but i love that in just as you're talking i'm i'm thinking about my life as well you you know you said. I was introverted girl. Who never smiled. And i'd be dog on if when i give my my talks. That's one of the first things. I say that how i never smelled growing up because it was just so traumatic how i was treated and you know you look back and you're like wow i never. I never smelled it. I just remember that. When i did people say oh you have such a beautiful smile and then again you know. Shut down But wow in your life just it. you know. It's funny because you could have done so many things with your life but you chose to take the path that you did. Which is a positivity that judo class became your outlet in from what we were discussing. You're still active today doing that. Correct fifty five years later an end. I've learned in grown. I mean. I went from. Judo taught you college because i put myself through college and i got credit for for the gym class by teaching it at night i went on to study. Taekwondo crean crotty became fifth degree. Black belt. I have another promotion. But i just stop it if it's degrade nobody needs to know became a black belt in kito but primarily it was my stress management tool and it taught me the value of discipline which is really discipleship to myself. The regrets i would have if i had stopped. I can't even imagine and back. Then women were the weaker sex. A maha and i would be the only girl in class after my sister and i would screwed into the guys locker room because there was no female lock in be in and out in two seconds i i had to be better than anybody else and at one point might teach. You know you'll you probably will never get a black belt words to that effect because to take. The test is rigorous for for women. While i kicked out of the water. And there's a a a lady by the name of rusticana koji. Who's the mother of judo. The olympics she was my role model. She came at a like the bronx gang and she turned that for her cell. I turned it as a tool that helped me work. My way through college helped. Inform the work that i do in stress management and trauma because through the martial-arts ahead of vessel and a vehicle where i could begin to shed all those negative Thoughts but i didn't shed all of them because they i mostly many times i was i was i. I've been a gold medal in a garden state. Champion data could always in the ones that i really wanted to be. I in there will always be some glitch. So i i had to self-defeating sing. I could look person but they somehow work in the other person's favor like my first my first gold medal trophy tournament. I went to the bathroom. And i was a brown belt and when i came back they gave it to another woman to same name. Who's a black bow. Same first name and all the guys that were there said no you let the wrong person and so my life. I'm the wrong person as that's one that came with me until maturity and it's still rears. Its little head might my saboteurs. The voices that saved me as a child are not my friends now and so that process of people pleasing developed really early. I mean as a survival mechanism. And then my hyper vigilant. Oh my god. I am. So hyper vigilant. I can feel people behind my back. You know and they don't even denied moving. Sometimes almost as i can hear them breathing. And so a high level of of that hyper vigilant. But i've turned those things for me in the work that i do with trauma i can. Just sit with somebody. They don't have to say a word. I can just read them. Because i've been there and everybody's different but we're all into the things. Hurt us hyper vigilance. Nitpicking details. you know not trusting aborted interest. Anybody and i was alone for how long because everybody let me down and and life has been kind to me in in a sense this looking at things from looking back because every obstacle i had trina made me stronger and more loving. I had to go through my angry states. Oh man. I was figuring an angry self-righteous be to death and that's how i kept myself safe and now the transform nation i literally have transformed from who i was into who i am now and it's been quite a journey. I mean i'm just. I'm just shaking my head in agreeance because i can relate to everything you're saying and i hope the listeners. Well i guess the listeners who have been where we have been where you know what you're saying. They can relate on their own level as well. But tell me now. Since we've worked past that trauma in your starting to use those that journey in that wisdom that you gain to help others. Who do you help. And how do you help them. Well i helped. The people of god sends me. It's like i say yes to almost everyone unless it's to now and there are those that i refer out those that are unwilling to heal. Did tesla repeat the the the loop. I understand that loop. I was cutting it but for over thirty years. Now i've been working with people who have had horrific traumas and they still want to get out of them and they don't know how because those voices are so entrenched and from physiological stance. Every time that negative little thing comes up your neural pathway gets stronger and the she gets stronger and it's harder and harder the thing. I think that that pushed me over the edge. I always wanted to do good but in about nineteen. Eighty lord still giants stadium. I worked as a buyer giant stadium when it was dying stadium I made a commitment that i want to be a clear and perfect vessel to the light of god and then i would everywhere. I went out. Bring something better. Leave the place better than when they can. And they god and light and sound sound just beginning word Vibration that i would embody loving. Even though i still wasn't loving myself. And i still have days when i wake up hating myself and i wake up with it. All barking dog I know you have permission to live here. But sit i call those negative voices a stock barkan. I know it. And then i turn my attention to what's positive in my life if i didn't have gratitude and i didn't have forgiveness for decades. You know my daughter was actually grabbed my hands when she was twelve by her bipolar dad. I created a recreated my life based on the traumas. Those that came before me. And that's the thing that we can shift. That's what helped people do. I helped them shift. Awareness is from the glasses half empty to. Wow look at what i have. I've gone to this compression. This being the fires of life like a diamond right now some of them get extended two thousand degrees a little tiny soon and then when they come out they're not looking so pretty and people norm and yet what i hope. People do is polish Those things that they think are occasions or flaws and turn those flaws in their mighty strength. Oh my goodness you are. Just you are job dropping. So many gyms right now because it is a cycle and i don't know about you but it took me a long time to work pass my trauma and and like you said even. Sometimes i get those you know. You're not good enough. What do you think you're doing things that creep up my head and i'm like no no no. This is not it and it took a lot a lot a lot of work for me to get to the point where i am now yet when you work with people and you tell them that. Hey this is going to be a journey. This is not you know. Fix me quick solution. This is a you really have to put in a work in and do it and like you said. Sometimes they do. Sometimes they don't do they really understand what you're saying when you tell them well it has to be done. The interesting thing is i. don't tell them anything. Okay i invite them to share with me. Why they're here and now get this story through the lens of the barking dogs and then i just sit with them. Trina i love them. I don't expect anything from them. What i will say is nobody's broken and nobody needs fixing. We just need awakening to who we are. And that's that's been. I mean it could have might some of the things could've taking me out and almost did i got really really sick. One point It should happen anybody any mother any person and yet somehow another that always looking for spirit. That thing kept me from knowing. I wasn't alone. 'cause the thing that breathes us you know that's another word for god and i i work with all nationalities ages all all all of the world but the one thing we haven't communist the breath and so the breath is is just is an wouldn't reborn. We take our breasts. Sometimes little mac which is a trauma then when we start time to leave we may want that breath than anything in the world but our time here is done and that's not the end that's just a chapter and so having had that experience i say not that i believe not that i've learned but i say that i know there is grace extended to all of us and you know it says yeah faces a grain of mustard seed man. I had half mustard seed when i started and and so many losses and yet by god i was gonna turn those losses into some positive and sometimes i didn't sometimes they didn't like wow what's right and to be where i am now. Speaking with you is nothing short of a miracle. 'cause grown up they say girl you a voice and i wouldn't say thing and i made myself invisible and that brought me through much of my life. I got by by being invisible. I was workaholic. Overachiever and i remained indiscernible. And i watched an unhappy. Jealousy comes as i watched people that i work with glenn to amazing things lord how come here in my little corner you know just working with people behind the scenes i still do. But it's hard now. Because i'm being kicked out of my next and that's that's part of the book that's part of the books i've written five three were bestsellers and it's not me. It's like i hear something like you're going to write a book inwardly in my inner wisdom. This was thanksgiving. This is the book that was called so lifts and i came home from thanksgiving dinner at my friend's house and i'm hearing you know you need to write a book. I said you really. Yeah it's going to be done by december thirty first. This is thanksgiving. I said really. I said okay. I'll be obedient. I sat down open. My laptop put. Are we gonna say. And the first thing that came out of my pen might my consciousness. My red chevy van. I almost ran him over and the incident that could have taken his life gave him a wife and me a man to treasure. Oh my goodness okay so you get you have to elaborate on this story so while my husband had passed away tells you about i Helped someone who's president of colorado national speakers association. I was involved with them and so he asked if he could stay at my place. And if i would set a tone for him to do a storytelling workshop. I said sure i'll do that. Dog end on. I did and he stayed with me and he asked me this crazy. Question like lynnwood. You ever get married again. I'd been married for seventeen years to my first husband who became bipolar. Welcome to the history repeating myself. And i wasn't gonna go and then he said would you ever get married. I know in. And then i thought well if i met a minute that loved his wife as much as you love yours. I would consider it and that night. I got the inner direction to go to. That place. And i pulled up in front of the hotel. This man got out of a taxi walked across in front of me got on the curb and then turn around and stepped in front of my car now moving. I stepped on the brakes in my first old. Oh god he's gone to the same lectures and so sure enough. I go upstairs Sitting in the front row this seat is behind him and he was my neighbor. And i said you know we talked a little bit in I said well you know you live right around corner from me. Why don't you stop you off. And so dropped him off and one thing led to another and demand. I almost ran over. Became the man a marriage. Six months later after having been separated for almost twelve years. And i literally got my prayer. Tierney said god and he had handicap which didn't mean squat to me I said god you married is stewed. And i said i'm not getting into my prayer chair till you give me a yes or no and two hours later. I opened my eyes. I hear is the one where they say. Rejoice we knew for he is the one hand picked by god for you. So that's how we got together. And i was told inwardly had long. Been my life and you would probably pass before me which he did. I didn't prepare me but the loving that we shared healed both of us and that's the willingness the voices say. Don't ever open your heart again. It's bad news best to safety one. The barking dogs. I risked opening my heart because it was an inner prompting to risk having my heart hurt again. And would i do the thing that i was being challenged to do. And i've had a lifetime of practicing that inner obedience. Because when i listen to the intuitive wise one inside of me you know it may not always be easy. But it's so good at the end. When i don't listen to that intuitive inner wisdom oh man it's deep doodoo time like she's good. I can't take myself real seriously. Wow just an amazing story it. It gives me hope for love again because like you said is i've been through so many things where i had closed off s. Nope never gonna do that again. Just be a loner and go through my life. But as i'm getting older i'm like you know i would like to house on to spin the second half of my life with so hopefully You know god has someone that he totally possible. I mean this will be my fourth marriage. My first soon as violent the second died in a plane crash third died because of the drug overdose. The hospital administered and then number four has been my friend now for twenty seven years and when his wife passed. Who's my dear dear friend. People from all over the united states started calling me saying you need to go east to be with paul. Because his might by good friend and i was going to go because i know that after the funeral or the celebration of life every goes back to their life and i know the second years the toughest so in my mind i was going to go after the dust settled and they also had a commitment to paying off a loan that i'd taken by march thirty first and this was in november and after these seven people called me. Everybody said if he's not gonna be around as they could see him and he actually called me in. His wife was dying while he was waiting for the ems. That's how close we were as friends. And there's a whole story that i can go into at some point that i will but On his deathbed we both sorta knew jams was gonna go. We didn't know who's gonna go that way i said. What are you gonna do when i die. I said i'll honey. I know the drill. Remember acting without. I've i've lost lost michelle my daughter. You know soon Her dad and i know the drill. So i want you to get married said no. We almost had an argument over. And then finally i said why. Do you want me to get married. Because i wanted to meet a man loves you as much as i do in gives you everything i can't and for five days later he was gone. And so the beauty of that is when we had our mini argument. Said i'll tell you. What james stephen. Putney you want me to get married again. You meet him. You've met him you send him. I will decide fast forward seven years. I've achieved master. Visiting names vary turn to the spirit us. Lean your debt husband kitchen. I said how nice to is. What's he want say. Talk to me and eleven and a half years. She still she goes all he say he vetting man. Now she's chinese. Vetting is not exactly where everyday chinese word an-and fast forward a couple months. Do that information. Put it in the file i. It was not open to ship. So in san diego with my friend anita and i'm helping her proof for book for random house. We're sitting up there. This leaders conference in blah blah blah. All lynn honey. James is in the room with us. I said no way needed. This is double header. What's he want now and she goes. He says he's vetting a man for you to story. Almost verbatim fast forward a few more months. I'm i'm you know my french. Sheryl who's paul's wife who passed away calls me at lewis's honey james is with us. She sees here with me he so big. I can't see his head in the clouds i said. Oh my. gosh it's a triple a triple header wha-what's he wanna say now. She's oh honey so sweet. He says he's vetted a man and then she goes and all you have to do is decide. It's the s and less than a month later. Shero passed away and this man who's been my friend at that point for twenty five years and he's in conflict as they were married for forty years. I come as a minister to support him and in the long story short dispirit conspired my deceased husband conspired to get together s. mystical magical story and every word that is true so the blessings that are available for us or infinite as long as we can still barking dogs long enough to be still and to know that who we are is perfect and one of the things i do to. Self soons is august. Feel my fingers ago. Like this to know that i'm allied osei. Nice things to myself. Mostly i try to stop my mind chatter and the grandmothers you know they used to wring their hands when they were praying that actually away to soothe yourself because the meridian in your hands. All things we do more ears we're giving ourself acupressure and is a million tools for us that are available when we open and had the willingness to look at life in a new way. And that's what i invite your listeners to do every day in my life is a new day and it may be our last day. So how do. I wanna leave it better than i woke up in it so for your listeners. I would say whatever hurt whatever wounds you have. It's a diamond in the rough. And when you get curious about it will. Is this pattern. Been with me for a long time like the pattern of finishing second. That was an a deeply ingrained trauma. A young child interpreted in a way. That isn't accurate. So our job is to become truth. Finders and curiosity seekers for who's who's the wheel may who am i. Outside of my hurts semi booze in my bitches and my concerns in might desires. Who am i really. Wow so profound just it almost brings. Tears is because it makes you think about how many people are living this life without knowing who they really are in are so unhappy with themselves. Yeah you know in this. It's just amazing. And it's amazing how you had all these people say the exact words that you had not spoken to anyone wanting to you saying. Yeah he's vetting someone for you so and that is not. That's not even a word. I would use consciously. Wow you know. And so both kinds of serendipity and gifts you know they're here for all of us it's like we we come in aware and awake and as little souls in this planet and then i like to believe that we we kind of this is a game down here. It helps me be saying. There's a transformation game where this concept. I came to me for simple things here to humans here to gain awareness. We here to overcome setbacks. We're here to do service. Especially if we can serve others without agendas and then finally to know god divine breath spirit all buddha. I don't care what it is that thing this greater than us is always here and actually we go through all the stuff in the palm of his hands or her hands and and we are the ones we're looking for and the only way i found it was to go inside. When payne got so embarrassed. I had to decide. There had to be something more and they started sitting in meditation and man. I could not meditate to save my day. i'd wear my watch my god. It's only a minute crap. It's only two minutes. And then i got to the first day. I sat for twenty minutes omega. And i felt better really and so i've i did that for many years of away. Not passively but i would say love. Love love to tooth tooth a some people use. Sometimes i like hugh because she was the sanskrit word for god. And it's it sounds good when it vibrates inside of you and I've used practices like free form waiting where you write. H what you're thinking and burn it and if you want i can give your lister if your listeners want you know i can give you something that you can put in. I have a program on thinking. Okay an also going to be in a documentary series series emotional trauma air sometime in march. And that's going to be free to listeners during launch so There's so many ways. But i would say there's no wrong way will does no. There's no way you have to wake up. There's your way to have to wake up and some of us like me. Pretty slow loans now and i think that's part of being human because we're on the hands to we were on it and to distance ourselves enough young and on a hamster wheel for most of my life running from done for me. It took illness to begin to wake up. I had to ask for help. God forbid i should ask for help. And like i'm the one that's the one for everybody. You know mis- mis- people pleaser. It's my job to come to the rescue white. nitis there. Such a thing in sweden anymore do that now. I just be you know. And i am working to be unapologetically me. Even when i'm in the downtimes in up times it all my loving tuna goes into loving everything. Every warmer has made me who i am today and it's not the thank a heart to be real nice the velveteen rabbit. Look do all those things in the children's book you know. We're all velveteen rabbit's in the making we're so loved and used that we we have used up our loving our life to a ready to graduate and that's probably the most noble thing we can do is to learn to love ourselves. Everything else comes from that an in plain sight but none of us see it because of all the conditioning. That is perfect. Because it's a game and you know. I never thought about that in your right the loving ourselves. Why is it so hard for us to do that. Because i know for me that has been my issue is like and again. is that conditioning. How i grew up. I love to someone else and give and then when he came to myself. I was not so loving. I wasn't so forgiving in now. Think why wouldn't i be. You know. I write voices. Go for and they come from the wound some time and they come from. You're you're mother's mother's mother's mother going back several generations and you can track that because that's part of what i do. A healthy will track where it is right down to two which strand of ordinary dna now. I don't know how to do this. I'm trained in it. But i don't know how to do this. I just know obedient to do this. And people say. I've had that issue for fifty years and i can't find it anymore. That's how i knew. I was on the right track. You know i had a house guest. She was gonna see the founder of the md. Are i responsible for trauma. I still why she just let me put you on my table. I'll no no no no just before. She's gone she no. I'd i sort of liked to get new table. By the time she got off the table she cleaned find it. And that's what's possible for us when we open to the possibility that life is meant for us to be happy joyful positive now this probably twenty five one. Negative statement takes a whole bunch of positive statements to neutralize 'cause this battery operated planet is deposited in the negative polarity. It's easier to be negative than it is to be positive. Just look at the press. You'll it sells people get caught in. That's living from the outside in will always safe no matter what happens to also who we are in. Our essence is uncorruptible corruptible. I've worked with murderers pedophile rapist. Enders i've worked with. Ptsd vets people that have been held up a gun point and It's like we're all different. Were all similar and when we learn to love the similarities in honor the differences that's gone unnecessary like to believe we're going people like me. There's a lot of people out there doing their work. Based on their life story. So i invite people to join the positive join movement and starts to smiling ending chinese. You know. I studied in china university. Beijing and in taiwan the number one energy exercise that you can do to change your life is to smile and these muscles that control a lot of stuff in your body and is hard to say. No no no no no no no no and if you say no no no no. It's like oh yes yes yes yes yes and one of the things i do with my clients is i have after. We do the session as they haven't go. Joy joy joy joy joy. joy georgia twitter. Take as high as they can get an begins to change the dynamics in the brain. And it's as simple as choosing to find the good no matter how crappy it is called the happy crappy you get out the other side you laugh. I was going to be funny massachusetts funding five years. Why don't make it funny now. And so that. That's how highly live my life and that was another wounded answer to a question that was so poignant profound no i'm loving it and just everything you're saying this is really resonating at one point. I'm thinking oh my goodness and my mirror and she's like me or in reading me because it is just. It's so profound. And i love it. I love the positivity. I love the working passer trauma and being of service to other people to help them. I mean just think what the world could be if we did that. Everyone did that because we all experienced something right exactly and if we could take whatever that negative force in turn around and try to see the good or take the lessons from it to help someone else it would be a better place to live and you and i both know that it's just so amazing that you exist in. You're doing what you do and it's not for everyone. Everyone can't do that. Everyone doesn't want to do that in there. I have found that there's more people who would like to condemn and judge. You like you were saying you know you get past your you know that talking your head. The dogs barking. And then there's somebody helped me like now. no no. no you know remembered that you're like okay. Yes barking dog labels i labeled my inner judger. You'll have an inner judger. Everybody no matter who you are. I called my judge. Judge louis and somebody said white Judge lewis for And and that's a metaphor for the darkness. The unknowing of love the thing wants power over rather than shared shared loving. And i believe people like you your listeners. All you have to do is start smiling. And that's a tougher challenge than you can imagine. Oh yeah you know. And then silently walk by people on the street frequent. Go god bless you inside and one time i did this. I had an office in santa monica and You know. I knew all the homeless people because the truth part was across At the end of the block. And this is gonna sound. Missile fantastical not true but everybody. Here's everything because the morphou genetic field which is quantum physics we are all connected in ultimately one being and so. I walked by this homeless guy. That i hadn't seen ever call guy may be in his seventies kinda skinny and as they walked by in my in. My mind is and god. Bless you and i got about three steps away in the man. Goes down the nicest thing anybody chevy said to me. And i turned around You heard me. I heard you. And i ended up pug the dude and i went on my way feeling like a million bucks. Because it's not often that you get to have the loving come back immediately and that was like for me as whoa that was twilight zone and yet this man heard what i thought his happened more than once. So what we put out in. Our environment is guilt by everybody. Oh yes dues. Walking room with angry person. Or or if there's a riot it's a contagious thing. People would never do that. Get sucked up in this negative vortex energy which is the barking dog energy whose job it here on purpose to strengthen us in our loving. What did i do that. And we don't know why because we're not aware enough to catch the judge or the hater where the saboteur. Because this only because hurt people hurt people. So i have to clean like curtis said to start cleaning my own doorstep so that i can be an example and that where i walk i exude positively and i know when i'm not 'cause it's really visceral inside of me now. It's like okay lynn. We need chill pill before seeing. I've been with clients all day in working on stuff. And i said i need shell before. I talked to anybody upstairs. I wash my hair. Did everything telling an. I like to do things early. So heading setup and my my hairdryer didn't work it died and in the old me with an the. The newness wears my pony clip band. You know and so. That's not a big deal but there was a time timeline. It was a very big deal. When i was judging myself through the filter of of what i needed to do to be safe but what we do is children. But i did then was then. We need to upgrade all those stories and go back and comfort that younger us. Oh you know lynn. Mom was really not knitting with both needles. She didn't know what she was doing. She hurt me now. She was hurting herself and Really transparent. I came home from school when i'm seventeen and the cops were in the front driveway and the office who said What did he say something about. I said what's going on officer and he goes well. We found your mom naked in the neighbors classes across the street. She had a nervous breakdown and he said that she ran away because her husband was trying to kill her. And so that may have been an energetic truth. 'cause they were to for decades in my mom got committed and And then one thing led to another and ultimately from my own safety. That's when i left. And i went to live with my grant my aunt and uncle. We still alive. That didn't last too long. So then they finally ran away and lived with the parents of mixture inlaws. Mean the my future in laws and paid them rant. While i finished college you know. And so those things all indelibly imprinted me have now become stories of overcoming and so we can use our story to change the world right now. Starting right here. That's what i would save your listeners. It's never too late. I work with people in their nineties. Who've he'll traumas from near six and all of a sudden got to spring in their step and burns off them worked with little ones. They're like three years old. Who beat up there. Eighteen month old sister and won't let mama leaves the room without whaling. There was even hope for that. Little one you know. And the way i did it she she cleared it and then she realized the mom had been gone to the bathroom and she started for a temper tantrum. I got down on the floor with her. She looks at me. You know but that was. That was the ending of the her being upstaged by younger sibling and she felt unloved and he said mommy loves you and a mom came in picked her up and then she stopped being operating month. Old sister. love goes a long way. It's free and it can't access it. You try to steal it. But there's no tax on loving wowed an increase in every area of your life Wow so you mentioned your books that you're a bestselling author. You have five books correct. Yeah at last. Count is probably a few more books in there but yes right now to them are active. One is called soul lifts. Instead of facelift you give your solar lift from bumps to brilliance. It's what i call toilet material. You can read in a sitting. And it's it starts with the chevy van story. And how people that i know. I have commissioner stories. Pretty much never bathe him. Except for vanessa. Vanessa a combination between two people and And then there was. My first book was heaven. Helpful hints his out at of out of print. That happened in my house. Burned down in. A chinese restaurant became my my office and i was working with the woman i asked her questions. I don't know the answer. That closure is ask you super. It's about the signal known. I because his gotten soup. There's got everything so that was done and the one that's just been bestselling walk is called beyond lovely ville apparently self awareness and rising above brahma. It is actually autographed Little autograph where i'm trying to say is my fate through the eyes of little creatures live on a pond and they discover for themselves how he'll those traumas and those parts of themselves that are not loving and then one coming out in july is called love you and subtitle. I still don't have yet but it may be. The best is yet to come because that was pretty much the my last love email to my husband. He passed away shortly after that. And so that book is literally as it was downloaded and printed from my files and it pretty much gone out the way it is so that people can actually see what a real loving relationship is possible regardless of all the odds. That's that's probably. The book fit. My husband would be most proud of angel in heaven. No and i just wanna thank you. And i know i think maybe we've covered the ten questions. You're maybe not net yet but we can weaken skip them. 'cause mean you have given me so much i may hit on just a couple of them that i wouldn't mind asking you But i'm just. I don't know where the time has gone because just enjoy our conversation in. Just the wisdom in the positivity that you just emit from you is. This is amazing. I mean i love it and i like i said it's like having a mirror in someone looking at the mirror and you're going. Oh my god you know. I'm like that too so That has been great. But i'm going to ask you just a couple of questions. I get into the ten because for time. But what is your definition of success loving everything. And how do you recharge. Oh i meditate. I pray. I have friends on zoom. We do cheek on like practices together. I have a wonderful community. That not only loves me. But we'll keep me on course and I have a new husband. That adores me. They're known for twenty seven years and we are in such partnership because he's a minister. A minister were both dedicated. Our lives to god and service. He's an amazing chiropractor and he's developed something where he teaches. The body to heal itself is called the electrical matrix dot am helping him to bring that out into the world. Literally our bodies our program for health. And when vertebrae go out where we have a stomach ache or something. There's always emotional. 'cause we may not know it were trauma or something is out of whack and when you bring attention to that part it knows how to heal itself so i don't. He'll anybody paul's hill anybody. We heal ourselves when we access the divine in us in so those are some of the things i do. I'm curious about when i get of balance on fascinated by my humanness you know and it's largely shanon That foreign troops from saying this but we are spiritual beings having a human experience. He's actually a profound archaeologist and so we are all human human heavenly man having these experiences manners in all mankind is no delineation and that not knowing that the were all one family. When i see stuff in the world did i don't like i take ownership. Incited me for any time. I've ever been done. That thought that because sense for all literally one in the body of god. My brothers and sisters are showing. I'm out of balance. So i get busy working on me and correcting my fault. That's also my definition of success. Wow oh man dr lamb. We could go on forever talking. But we're going to wrap this up. 'cause just been so amazing. Where can the listeners. Buy your books get in contact with you if they want to become a client of yours. Just tell us how we can find you okay. Well the book is on. Amazon is called beyond iwo wendy. Lovely bill l. o. V. e. l. y. v. i l. l. e. That's where i would recommend people would start because it is a parable in. It's every human story and solis is a fun book. You open it to any page. That's the kind of books i like. Okay what's my message for today. I open it on that runs doing. They're still available. They can go to my website or if they would like to Get the free programme. It's basically They would email. My virtual assistant is v. a. Dot dr lynn morale dot g dot com and She can send out that course to them. It's it's basically under ten minutes. 'cause i don't know about you but oftentimes it's hard for me to listen resumed out this. I did this. It was a spontaneous training at the request of a great man who wanted to ask me some questions who happened videographer. So that's called. Are you living your best life fee form. Writing that i mentioned is in it is a segment is ten little segments with a thirty second or so video of me and then there's the page they can read the niners a meditation or an action. Step you can do it all at once. You can do the ten minutes or so a day over time. It's charged with the energy of healing. And you know it's real easy not to open things. But i figure for ten minutes a day i did this like two thousand fourteen and i never marketed. Why because my barking dog said it's not professional enough and you wearing a color doesn't look good on you and you were in flight path of the airport in los angeles and we're upstairs on the roof for crying out loud and so it's perfect because life is messy and if we strive Perfection desperate dead people. We can make them perfect. But we're all god's creation in expanding and loving so that all goes back to the spirit and all of us he'll when one of us heels is a ripple effect across the whole planet. So they can find me that way. it's my website is doctorinal dot com. It's mostly a placeholder. And if they want anything in particular they wanna have a group soon or something. We can work something out now. We can make it easy for people to attend and there's so many ways but the book is probably the easiest way. 'cause it's it's you know it's not a big investment and they can get the kindle or the written. I like the written because it's real in today's word of electronics stuff. So and it's we read over and over again might prayer. Is it become a classic like charlotte's web war and and I have a quote on the back of this book is the best of the chronicles of narnia. Lord of the rings in charlotte's web and ahead read some of them at that point but You know so. That's what i would say mostly access to your own wisdom. yes his. You're the one you're looking forward to all the listeners. And we find out one. You'll be such awe and reverence for who you are and how wonderfully your life is perfect for you. I love that so thank you so much for taking time out of your day to be here in. Speak with me. It has been amazing. Your wisdom your gyms your light i love it all and i just wanna say thank you. Oh you're so. Welcome chain a thank you for having me if you like. Trina talk podcast. Please don't forget to go out to i. Tunes and rate it five stars and leave a review also. Who else in your life. do you know that. Need some motivation. Inspiration in their life. Don't forget to share training. Talk with them. I hope you have a great week and remember if you change your mindset you can change your. Life keeps driving because success as a journey not a destination.

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Mark Bavaro, Dave Maloney

WGBB Sports Talk New York

53:37 min | 4 months ago

Mark Bavaro, Dave Maloney

"The views expressed in the following program. Do not necessarily represent those of the staff. Management owners have w. g. b. b. from the wgn studios in america. Your and that's right everybody. Welcome to the second hour of sports. Talk new york. As i'm right here betting clean up behind the great And as great as always phil donahue just hit a home. Run in the first hour with darrell. Strawberry and dr j. julius irving so thank you for the great lead and bill and i got a great show to get here tonight as i'm starting off with a giants former former giants tight end mark bavaro two time super bowl champ two time all pro and we got dave maloney in the second half of the show but before that I like to just a welcome you to sports. Talk a new york right. Now as i'm your host rob kremer and really can't thank you enough for tuning in here right now as we rebrand sports. Talk twelve forty And be give birth anew to sports talk new york tonight and why make them wait around. He's on the line right now. I wanna thank And welcome mark bavaro former giants tight end to the program right now mark. How you doing tonight. I'm doing great. Well thanks for having me. Oh absolutely and. I hope that you had a happy and healthy holiday new year for you and your family. We've been enjoying it very nice. Very nice and you know with everything going on. I'm sure that you've had a lot to occupy your time with over the last few months and everything over the last year even but have you been keeping up with the The giants this year. i really haven't been watching him that closely. I i heard today was an important game. So i kind of checked out. The end of it was pretty exciting. We're all waiting for the washington game absolutely got on a sunday night football tonight. We got the philadelphia eagles washington football team going at it and if the eagles can pull out a win here the giants will actually believe it or not after starting the season one and seven beating division champion. So that's a that's quite a far cry from the excellence of your eighties. Giants teams but hey making. The playoffs is pretty good. Either way right. It doesn't matter how you get any exactly exactly. Hey the being a division champion. The giants would host a playoff game. So you know. I don't know how do you feel about the age that we're in right now where there are no crowds in the stands and everything and well. It still is nice to have a home playoff game and you know you have your routines down everything on those lines. How how crazy for you to play a playoff game especially with no crowd. I'm near it's definitely different. I don't know that you know once the game starts whether it really matters all that much that would be an advantage for the visiting team because obviously the crowd noise wouldn't be a factor Maybe you can answer this question for me. I hear the fan noise on the tv. I watch it is that is that on the tv solely or is that in the stadium as well. It's actually in the stadium. Believe it or not. It's it's kinda crazy for a lot of them. I know in baseball this year. I'm not exactly sure. How football did it. But i know baseball. They used actually the the ambient crowd noise from the video games. And just kind of mix that into the games these days. I think the nfl did something along those lines. But it's definitely but the players on the field definitely hearing that noise too so i wonder if it's ever crowd you've ever a factor as far as concern. Yeah i could definitely see it even being distracting at times to especially when you know that. There's no crowd out there. And i heard a couple of these games this year that that crowd noise has been pretty pretty loud. Yeah so it's almost a little distracting. Maybe it's even a little another little obstacle. They have to come over but especially with everything. These players have gone through. And they've They've done a great job with keeping the covid protocols. And everything you really. Haven't you know we've seen some positive tests and You know maybe a minor outbreak here and there but for the most part i think the. Nfl has done a really good job navigating their way through these kind of uncharted waters is a lot of people. Didn't think there was going to be a season at all. So i'd say this is a victory absolutely absolutely and so that's just a really really nice. Start off the giants kickoff. Twenty one The right way they could get a win for philly tonight and get a spot in that playoffs. Just like your old giant teams you know. They had the big twenty three nineteen win today against them against dallas. Now have you see what do you think about this this new coach. And he said you haven't been keeping up on the much but Is there anything that you've seen from. Joe judge their new head coach. That leads you to believe that this guy could be the big answer they've been looking for you know. I really haven't watched them enough. I i don't really know anything about him. I do know Just by watching the little. That i watched today if after a weird up and down season like. They've had this year if they go out and perform like they did today even though they almost fluid at the end just to just to them to keep the focus and intensity and the desire to win asked such a season he must be doing pretty good job as a leader and as a coach and the motivator. Yeah i absolutely agree. And you know he. He learned from the best He's from the ballot check. Coaching tree in You know. I think it's it's pretty much un- doubted at this point. That bill check is a you know top three or four. Probably most people even the number one coach of all time. And you know he was your defensive coordinator for a lot of those giants teams For all of them. I guess actually and and he was also your head coach in cleveland. So you know when when you were coming up in you saw belichick from afar as defense coordinator on your own team and then you played underneath him. Do the see any an inkling of any of this brilliance from that. We've seen for pain from coaching standpoint. That mean he really didn't come into the early two thousands from a defensive standpoint yes. The gene is was always a parent on the giant teams. Now when i play for him in cleveland the head coach I didn't quite see the brilliant that was to be the head coaching arena. But i knew. I knew it was there. I just know it was a matter of him. Get an experience and coming up and he actually did do a good job of cleveland gay. Doesn't he definitely did. I mean he got a couple of those brands teams to the playoffs You know we always get the bad bath a cleveland but he actually did it. You did a pretty good job. Absolutely yeah and people talk about like you know. Talk about his stint there like it was a bad one but i completely agree. You know it's it was his first time as an as an nfl head coach so he was kind of figuring himself out along the way too and it was just a matter of time before people understood him as a coach in the person And all you gotta do is get a little success under his belt for them people to believe in them and to follow the program and that didn't take too long once you gotta shot teacher and that's history and you know he did some wonders for For your teams defensively in the in the eighties will the one that comes to my mind. Actually the three peat game where the giants defense that day where you guys went out and beat the niners on five field goals The offense guys gut it out and you got down there and the red zone all those times. You weren't able to convert on touchdowns but You went out there and kicked five field goals. Defense held them down and And that was the name of the game that year that ninety team Really personified by by the gritty defense. Especially at the end. You know there's no question. The giants were always a defensive team. Back then Especially in nineteen ninety Really weren't much of an offensive team. We were good ball control team but we weren't much of a point scoring team And without the defense that we had which is you know. I put up there with the best defensive teams of all time along with the eighty six Super bowl defense They just did a spectacular drive. And of course you know the the person behind that was bill ballot. Check absolutely absolutely and even drive your point home more With with the offense holding the ball. I mean you guys held in the super bowl. They're against buffalo. I think you held the ball for for over forty minutes and that game forty minutes. Some seconds i don't know what was put on hold about for a long time. It's a game. But i think if you ask any coach what were they think than high possession pointing matter a little bit more but when you have a decent did that really was the of the nation absolutely so many household names on that defense and lt You know carl banks so many guys out there that you can just point to that That really lead that smashmouth defense and And you know you were a lot of the attitude on those teams to you know you you were such a great tight end like i said earlier when i was bringing you on. I two time all pro. Two time superbowl. But it doesn't happen by accident and you went to To notre dame to so have have you been keeping up with With notre dame. At all recently i like the giants only in late Being in the playoffs. And i thought you know i. I wasn't expecting much with them against alabama and can't that they didn't really give you much and i was never really gained but i was really surprised in proud of the effort that they gave. I thought they thought you know every play they never gave up. There was never a point in the game where they were out of it And it would've been nice if they had scored at the end it would have remained the game. Look a little bit better on paper. But i i was really proud of their effort to assert if ever my mother i agree. I've i've been a an irish fan. My whole life and really they they've been highlighting their inability to win the big game in the bcs like like the late nineties. I think they said since nineteen ninety. Eight the irish own seven in these big time. Bcs games but I agree with you i. I like the way that they fought to the end. I think Ian book really proved himself to be One of the better quarterbacks. The irish have had You know he's he's got the the all time mark now for for for wins. I think he's got thirty wins. Started there now but more importantly for me They they seem to have upcoming star number. Eighty seven tight end. I was An our performance kids a freshman very true. I don't even know his name. But the season pro out there and he looks like he's going to be a force to be reckoned with for a few years to come vay true and you know dating back to u. notre dame has really been a great spot for tight ends. I mean they even still have kyle rudolph who's still in the league right now and he was going back to the brady quinn days in the mid two thousand and so you know kinda route off. The irish really are gonna especially when this kid gets in the league or really gonna have a nice Legacy of tight ends and like you said they. They have a great legacy right now on this kid because he looks like he's pro absolutely. I couldn't agree more and You know just just checking in with notre dame there. 'cause i totally agree and i i always associate you with notre dame more I don't know why. I'm a jets fan giants fan but i i always liked the you know the going back and seeing the former fighting irish looking back at a guys like that and timmy brown from the championship. Years and and joe montana from the late seventies so you were definitely one of the and probably the best irish tight end of all time. Well we we had a. We had a few great ones can. Mcafee is a four time. All american an accomplishment. True dave casper was there. You got some really really good tight and then after me. There was a slow every year. There was there was a started coming out. It was pretty good. No doubt about it especially those late eighties early nineties years. It seemed like there was a great one being churned out every year and You know so. I was listening to an interview with you recently. Where believe you're speaking of mike francesa where you said that you think that if they had a matchup that the nineteen ninety giants team would beat the nineteen eighty six giants team. Now i that i would feel like a lot of giants fans are football. Fans in general would always lean towards the eighty six team because that one always seems to get more accolades. What what do you feel about that. Nineteen ninety that would would have them You know even though maybe a certain couple of of categories. They're not as good as the eighty sixteen but they had that gutsiness to get victory against them. Yeah now you know. If i if i said that which i don't really remember saying but i i believe that I wasn't wholeheartedly in agreement with that statement. Okay i do think that the i think the ninety team cookies eighty sixteen and vice versa. The tar you really especially when someone just coaches players thing to say but the ninety team was. I think the point is gonna with nine hundred. Slouch computer sixteen. We will be in a good in ways. Nothing eighty sixteen like a ball control. And are now i think we had a. I got a better defensive scheme Ninety than any sex you know. What do i know. I coaches and players were the most seasons older and thing they play the game maybe ninety offensive line was humongous eighty six. We are very athletic. And i think that that. That offensive. Line just scrimmage and he has happens just content to send. That's a. that's a debate old. You can type of on our nine ninety eighty six. I think that i mean eighty system as it'd be speed depend on the day very true very true i. It's just fun to think about things like that. Because there's there's so many situations that fans like to debate you know it's kind of like one of those barroom topics and stuff like that so it's something that we're never going to actually get to see but it's fun to think about and you know you were coming in. It's such a great time in the mid. Eighties there for the giants. It was right after Parcells really was starting to get established. Date they just made the playoffs. Now what do you remember about coming into that. That young team. That was just starting to learn with a coach. That was just starting to learn to win as well. Yeah you know. I can have a whole lot of knowledge of of the giants. You don't come out of college One of my best friends from college. When i got drafted he was like. Wow you know he goes. Mark fifteen is perfect for you. You know this this is going to be the best place you could have done. And i was like why he goes up and coming to hungry. They d-kansas unbelievable and they got this great coach name. Bill parsoes and i was like who he had. And i didn't even do that. Homework through realized that they attending out of one of their longest droughts. Ever in our get. I i just had a new. They passing because up an engineering room. Up in new england is up. The giants were a favorite team amongst alarm. The people here. So i always just have this vision in my head. Giants will be vicini. I had no idea that they had suffered so damaging in some of these early eighties so we won and aim six and you saw the outpouring of emotions from giant fans. I was taking back and that kind of realized either so a national and then the only thing that i really appreciate what as a team also happy to benefit that then. I became so very happy. Said it's different. Answer the area. Along suffering young people still talk so You know positively and and and reflect nothing but good feelings about especially that first championship You know just just like you were saying the eighty six title where You know you really brought the giants back to relevance like you said they'd they'd been in the woods for so long The midst the early sixties of the nfl championship game against the chicago. Bears really was the last time that they had really tasted any kind of championship. And then you know over twenty years later you guys really took the entire city by storm and it's It's really still great just to hear people talk about that and and you know how you guys. There was a lot of people to in that time. I'm sure who thought that the bears coming off that That great eighty five season. They had with the defense. And everything that You know they were going to be the team to beat for a couple of years. Now what are the reasons. Y'all you never have to face as the washington bethan in the play offs so they can have to come to giants stadium in December or january for the play offs. Which they didn't they didn't because washington beat them. We have the three times that year. Hong chicago in eighty six. I think we denic that it definitely would have been pretty team. Daiki definitely will yeah. I think You know it's tough to say another thing. But i i do think that you guys would have beat them with the with the amazing cast of characters that you had to take anything away from those bears teams though but you know ninety. They came to the came to giants stadium for the class and he watched them pretty good You got revenge because we got pretty good in eighty five and we also got waxed again. I think in the opening game of eighty seven. Yes yes author. All bowl electa. Fallen susan opening game just destroyed the ninety nine exactly exactly and hey you know. Whoever gets revenge less sweetest then you know. And you've got a you but you guys had a pretty big photo go against even without the bears was at the end of that whole run you guys going up against the niners in montana and rice and that whole case the characters what what did it feel like you to go through Really a dynasty like that to get that last championship and took to be a team. That was that good walk. San francisco didn't bother us that much. We're not not that we had that number but the always felt that we will physically dominant team against san francisco in particular so we there was never any sense of intimidation. Let me play them We just didn't know if we were going to be able to tamp down montanaro nice you know and as long as as long as they could do that you know. We knew that we had a pretty good chance. Now if you told me that. I think if you asked me if i thought i was going to be by not scoring a touchdown the game said there's no way we could you know. Fortunately matt bahr kicking field goals. And i kept the score low at us. We did it now. Now is the buffalo building. The super bowl game was one game. I definitely that way i went. I went into that game. Really not confident of winning. Not that i tried any less or any hotter you just you just gone through training in the back of my mind. I was like no you know. They were scoring fifty points more especially in that championship game and they had beat you guys in the regular season that year. I believe correct. They beat us in the regular season and in the san francisco game locker room before premium. We watched the raiders Fifty that something. Like that. And i just remember when we came score fifty five points. There's no way we can do it. So i don't know how we're going to do it but i come up with some sort of a plan. We got no chance and that he did. And you guys held them to Nineteen points it was another great win one of those cardiac kid moments right there is Took it down to the wire got another championship. And that's a that's all said and done. You can't beat that as you know the two championships in new york. Mark If we're just gonna put a bow on this. We have to say about your your time with the giants and the two championships in the great coaches and players. He played with ball. Obviously great to play for the coaches would break the place for new york is the ultimate place to place especially if you win I mean. I couldn't have picked a better place or pick the better cast of teenagers to play for coaches to play for. I were all friends to this day. We all everybody pretty much gets along. I mean every once in a while. it's a good. It's a family type atmosphere. The giants are a great organization. It was a great experience and even to this day. I see some workers on the contrary. I do work with lawrence taylor and all the See steven baker. I see far all vera. Everybody until yard. We're just leave it. Just a great bunch of guys out a lot. Chrome was a lot of fun Pastels is a great place for. I had a great coach. Mike polk we could talk about an hour but that guy. He's co some great tight end. And i was fortunate to having my coach. Goes i mean what more could you ask for exactly. And that's the name of the game. Well you know mark I've i've spent a enough your time tonight. I wanna thank you so much for taking time on your sunday night to give us a call tonight and talk about some of the the old giants teams everything else going on so much. I couldn't appreciate a any more of your time. My pleasure. thanks thank you mark and have a good night and and everybody else. I break the day here on sports. Talk new york. Police stick around the got. Dave malone took a little new york rangers hockey in the second half. And we'll be right back in a minute stick around. You're listening to sports. 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Get your dustbuster today. You're listening to sportstalk new york on long island w gb back to the show cleans and gentlemen welcome to second half of this hour's worth twelve forty plus twelve sports talk new york and thanks for tuning in here I'm your host rob kremer with all the stuff that we've changed over here too. Don't forget that you can check us out on twitter at w. gb sports talk and and also after this show you can check out our podcast. Anyway you get podcasts. Apple podcast We're waiting to get new york rangers. Dave maloney online right now. And he's on right. Now dave maloney. Thank you for joining us here in the sunday night. How you doing tonight. I'm doing well how are you. I'm doing very well You know. I want to thank you for taking the time tonight to and i hope you had a very good holiday new year and everything i mean Like everyone else is certainly different than Gonna accustomed to but Hopefully we're into a new year. That maybe there's some light at the end of the tunnel normalcy coming back into everyone's life and so we have through continue to hope that's exactly we got You know there's a lot of positivity we got this this vaccine out now. Hopefully a lot of people are getting it so hopefully like you said it's a step in the right direction and maybe by the end of this year. We'll even have people back in the building again for for hockey and basketball and anything like that but you know. Obviously everybody's health is of paramount concern before that so i think that's the plan and that's the whole penny ways that This thing going too long and And all sports be able to you know sports theater restaurants everything that You know have people in the golden exactly and it's been it's been nice. It's been almost a little bit of normalcy over this. This break right now. I've been watching a lot of the world. Juniors and everything like that have have. Have you been covering that at all. Have been covering it. But i have been watching it. I actually watched Names from yesterday arrested. Today i was yesterday but to Having fallen and it's quite good stuff. It's good hockey and It'll be interesting. Say hard plays out there. Heading into the semifinals final. Exactly and it was a nice run from germany to to get that far. They they'd never been that far before and now we got two great Semi somewhere like you were saying with the russian canada early in the late game with finland in the us. A lot of good prospects on there is there anybody that Especially us team that you have your eye on That that you like i. I really been enjoying watching the goalie. Spencer night play. I think he's he's been a big time goalie for them. Big time winner is. Is there anybody that you specifically have impressed you so far. Well you know it's night from connecticut area. I don't know personally. I know number of people that you know and You know he's a big kid and a bit of a rocky start against the russians and But seems so hung in there. But i think the team has gotten better to in front of them. ziegler another kid of westchester kid. Who looks like he's the real deal and So i think there you know. I think the the impressive thing Is that you know. Usa hockey continues to grow in the country. There's two or three kids from california. On the on the roster florida on the roster it's just continues to Shows it a game is is growing become competitive than a lot of Ah a bigger more broader perspective in america. So i mean it's it's been it's been fun to watch and And it's been good for Usa hockey and It'll be interesting to see if they get your sins. And perhaps it will set up for another canada us. I don't the canadians have their has rushes year russia's especially early when mentioning before about that That early game for spencer night with the russians just really bombarded them early. I think they ran a five one. Lead early in that game But you know if if canada can get past russia and if the us can pests finland we know that those These big games. He's big gold medal. Games are between the. Us and canada always a lot of fun to watch. Yeah we certainly are. I mean it's it's like everything else when both sides are competitive For the longest time. Of course the soviet union The soviets were dominant in international competition and For the ones the name You know candidate dominant factor particularly of youth level and But america has us better this generation to generation of great american talent that continue to foster. Continue salam new program where I traditionally the college fruit has still the main characters. You know you've got the boston colleges. In minnesota michigan's and and the schools that have been around forever occupied she's got newark places like quinnipiac and different schools now that It's just like these program this more more involved and It's it's it's showing that it's legit When it comes to world class competition The us yet. And that's That's good stuff so when canada and the us play and they're both competitive it's just Make it a better better watching. Ben franklin absolutely. I couldn't agree more. And you know. I think that like we said it's gonna be a lot of fun to watch and give you a lot of fun to see these These kids excel in the big moments. And if there's anybody that knows about excelling at a young age and these big moments you as you were the youngest captain in the history of the rangers. And you're the captain of team at that young age that went to the stanley cup. Final against the the canadians and seventy nine and really had that that the last great playoff defeat that. The rangers handed the islanders before they went on their their cup. Run and everything like that. So you know excelling at a young age comes naturally to you know about it. Oh likes a long time ago and and the game is certainly Ovaltine and yet that particular run. We were pretty young group and we're back stop by Pretty goaltending john davidson. We got ourselves the man. It was fine and thing out. When i remember at the time that perhaps you get a chance again and and we didn't Clearly we hit great Competitive series against those teams that were on the never. Never find a way to beat them. So i think when you look at Score by that and you get a chance. I wanna things have full in. Montreal was at the you know coming out of four consecutive cops and they're seven or eight and hall of fame players in that roster played against in the finals in may of seventy nine so fun rian research electric with the ranger islander saying and you know now with the schedule wade out. It's going to be out to given the situation with pandemic fill one another eight times and The monkey four to two seasons from that standpoint where you know the ranger. Islander rivalry the rings. Your ranger several You know we'll hope maybe take on some of those edges that the days we played the one another more than three or four times so on all those Ragweed great and If both teams as talked about american candidate i make the case. Gal are legitimate copter. Tenor and the rangers are are coming so for it was ranger our days Coming up the rangers have been laying the groundwork for the last couple of years. Now you know with the building blocks of lafraniere cap. Oh and chess jerkin finally coming over and all the other young pieces that they have that they're building a young core and you know the. The islanders are china. Tie up their their guys trying to extend bars all in workout. Whatever deal they You know announced today that he's officially a hold out. Hopefully they can work that out for the season starts. But just like you're saying this season is really going to be all about the Jacking up those division rivalries to to the next level because every single team especially the rangers are going to be playing this year's going to be the islanders the devils the flyers the bruins. And you know we're not gonna have any easy nights in this division this year It's going to be You know every single points gonna matter every single time you take your opponent to overtime. Get that point. It's gonna matter How do you see this shaking out this year. It's it to me on paper as much a i'm. I'm a big rangers fan. I i always hope the best for my team but in just like you said. The islanders are legit. Cup can competitor. Do you think where it's only the top four teams that make the playoffs that there's a path to the playoffs of the rangers in this division of courses are the good enough to to pull that past And are they ready. I'm not a hundred percent commission. They're ready You know this when you look at the makeup of this group They're loss pretty piece is important pieces that have been there for quite some time still and those were representative group recruited cancer and certainly it takes time chris. Kreider is really the only remaining factor from two thousand twelve or two thousand fourteen runs. So i think they're alive things that have to follow. There's no question this good. Thanks going on and there's no question that run you know. Follows arranged shouldn't be excited. But i think patience is going to be a virtue i think if you look at division i think I think both the flyers and Islanders are playoffs You have to like washington the signing chara now washington pittsburgh have been around for a long time that story going to turn at some point. But i don't think it's ready to turn just yet The fruit bruins be like without chara. They've got great character. they had great character. But he's important part of that Process there so so if you you know if you're looking at the flyers islanders washington would be the three teams that say okay. They're all legitimate. Playoff teams Now you're talking about pittsburgh. You're talking about Boston feisty. The rain seven were cut out absolutely. Oh pressures but i don't This talk to john davidson and jeff yesterday. Listen to you and talk with david claim today and these dangerous long enough to know that it's just happened overnight and you look at. The islanders struggled for a long time in recent generations. And it's finally come into place but it's taking awhile it's time for it. Looks like he's a player. Josh bailey around forever looks like he's a legitimate. Nhl her now. I have factor now. They've gotta get bars. Elstein thought with the they're going to get him signed his limited options and he can't afford to sit out very long with the short season. So i just think that. The rangers Devils are in the devil's got a little self yours And i think the thing is is you're realistic From a range of standpoint you can be optimistic and home but were you become saying you break it down. It's about their battle play offs and yet the experience along the way. We'll be invaluable to this young now speaking of that experience. Do you think that this you know because you can really look at it. From from two ways. I tend to think that it was a big positive. But ju just making that playoff this past season where they they played in the qualifying round. They lost games to two carolina. Now even though they really didn't look that great in those three games and you know lundquist third the first two but we did get chefs jerkin in the final game. Do you think that experience as a whole as negative as it was was really positive for all the kids that participated in it. Mean you've got gotta take. Every struggle is positive right. I think it was a good artist. Shot of reality. I think it was Now again it was a very short window The reasons to pin optimistic going in Given pass against carolina by carolina. I've been through the grinds for the play offs and the playoffs are through deal. So you only deal. So yes be invaluable and listening to getting knocked around how much and it just kind of puts things into perspective of really Where do we stand what we have to do. So it's certainly better kirsch group and then not being there But i hope to realize just hardest. And i think honestly they probably do now vaccine matter. Well i think there's a couple of things you have to look at. You know we talked about. And there's all kinds of reasons to be excited about who he looks like he's going to the right but he said twelve games and he said one game. He's close games in the national hockey league regular-season except one game of the playoffs. I often thought even at the height of hank's career particularly so they'll coming down the stretch that we have been privileged to watch a guy play in most important position. He played as consistent as any goalie. Played over the course of this thirteen fifteen years and we all took them for granted he goes never heard he was So i'd let's just to see how this plays out. She has proven at every level. He's been at that he can play and now he's playing in the world and the league the week competition on his shoulders. It looks like he can do it and handle it until he does it. Then there's still out. And i'm not saying by any Factor that i can't do. It looks like he can buy until he guys. He's replacing very very big skate and henrik lundqvist. I totally agree. I mean it's the word that you use. That was best. There was that we all took henrik for granted. Because you just like you said once once. The calendar turned to You know late february. After the trade deadline march into april. You knew that henrik lundqvist was money and that every night he was going out there. And you know not to say that. It wasn't like this early in the season to especially when the game was on the line when you knew that they had to win this game to make the playoffs or for their playoff positioning. Henrik was gonna come through for them as he did so many times and all those game seven that they played actually in the playoffs all those years. So what you know as much as we may really like what we've seen at of jess jerkin and just like you said how he succeeded at every single level. He's ever played it. You're still not at the level of henrik lundqvist yet until you show us it day in and day out. So it's a it's it's gonna be really interesting and fun. Actually to to see this kid come into his own as we inevitably compare him to henrik hendrix career. Well that's the thing i mean. The elite players are elite. Because they're different and to replace a week. Players is a very difficult task. And i think ranges you know mike richter backstop company and ninety four You know it was eleven years. So you found a goaltender. Backstop franchisee kansas So i just think that We're now again. There's all kinds of reasons to be excited. let's just move near those reality to is humbling and but it's helpful so excited to get things started and see when they T it off Career absolutely in the first game is actually or night in ten days so they can have a really really quick camp here and so i really think that the rangers are going to be playing pretty safe with their roster Because there's a lot of kids they have. There are on the brink they bring a guy like yonder miller tarmo ruining or again be bringing You know i i. I know we've already said that. Vitality christoph is gonna stay in the cage l. I is there anybody that you expect to kind of come under from you know from underneath the radar when nobody really expected to make the team. Do you think that any of these kids are gonna have a big impact right out of the gate. I i mean it's the guy that talking about. Because he did look the bubble training. Camp sciandri Own he's he's he's a big man can skate and move and think about until you see him play Against man again jury still out now. I know He Was about today. like dave's quinn. But you've got You've got your use has probably being displayed in the franchise and and you've got good things coming Your shoes from Carolina last year in a nice quiet deal. It has tools. Shall we get a little longer in looking at you. Know a little more of a role Maybe in the top nine. That sounds like a scrimmage tomorrow. So i think any we've seen i mean. The question is can fox. Lingering is to emma. Sophomore is relaxed. And so there still is just kind of a belief that it's probably two hundred eight before you know Really what kind of pro is gonna be So there are a lot of guys Have game played until we get very true. Very true especially on the ranger team which is by far the youngest in the league Now he just got a couple left before. I let you go here. Did want to thank you for for a couple of minutes here on a on on your sunday night as now capito and and love for near i think A lot of people expect cap to get a A legit shot in the top six. It sounds like you don't think that they're going to do the same with With lafraniere Do do you think they're going to be given both of these guys. Top six minutes. Maybe one of these guys or even playing these guys in the same line at times. Well listen i think I think taco topo has historically It sounds like he's gonna start with our regardless of where they play. This is it's the worst thing. Is that player planner third. He's nineteen. I you just the way too far ahead of themselves and it's not fair i get it. I get quite excited But it took twelve years for when a cop. It's you know it took six years six years for to No five years Also to these guys have both wingers. So it's it's different position And just think kits while the timing of the times i. It's interesting 'cause i was asked before. The recent talks assassin pressure of tackle nineteen year. Old you know it's just it's just let them play. I can play the be fine. The expectations age of marketing. And all that if certainly Viable whichever players. Let's just give them. And i know the tax Fog trump's escort and john davidson. And that's really what is not going to win the cup of access to nineteen year olds. you're gonna win the cup on years of experience approved plane heather goaltender. They can stop it if somebody that gets you. Go find it and put it as simple as that Ranger social workers absolutely absolutely and and you know Finally win last one here. Dave do you think that the rangers name a captain or do you think they even need to macaque I don't that question was also asked David today and didn't get the impression that that was a high in the list of priorities and it goes back to Because back to the solid just hasn't played together long enough. There's a lot of new parts to this group And i think it needs it just needs time to klay together to find that you now contract. That was seven or eight year waiting for you know sought. Chris kreider is probably a guy. That's going to assume a lot more because he's been in situations any stolen up the right way and the right growing up with infections like for cash. And why are you saying way and brad richards and you know. I been around the block and proof. They don't have like. I like that. So i heard i think david not. The most guy is first galvanizing group. That's when you know. You have your captain and i'm not sure that they're they're just yet. And i got the impression today listening that it didn't seem to be high on the list of priorities but not being in the room or not being the closest route or the bandages. You'll we don't really know for sure but that would be my eight. Thank you very much for the insight. Dave i can't thank you enough for spending right minutes here with us tonight. and You always want to wish you the best. Have a great twenty one season covering the rangers. That can we see on msg and and have a great year. Great thanks very much. Thanks for the call me. We'll do it again at some point absolutely have a good night. Okay all right. I want to thank everybody else for sticking around here with me on this This beautiful sunday night here as we kick off twenty twenty one here and a brand new sports talk new york. Thank you for joining me here. i wanna thank my two guests tonight Dave maloney the great form new york rangers captain Msg analyst right now Thank you so much for joining me. 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What happened to Jimmy Hoffa?

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What happened to Jimmy Hoffa?

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The offset is important for us to collectively establish that. This episode is not an advertisement for the Irishman. The Newest Scorsese Film Bill. That just dropped on net flicks To No small amount of acclaim and a little bit of controversy out Pacino plays. He's one of the I don't know maybe secondary is is a good word A secondary character in the film He plays a character named Jimmy. The HOFFA is based on the real life. Jimmy Hoffa now mill. You and I talked about this film a little bit affair. We saw an and Paul you. You watched it so you brought it up to us. Without spoiling the film for anyone AIDS based on a book right by this guy named Charles Brandt right. It's called what I heard Japan houses. I heard you paint houses which is a fantastic tidal. This book purports to be nonfiction includes interviews and alleged confessions made to the author. Charles Brandt by a former mafia hitmen named Frank Sheeran like Ed Sheeran and Irishman. c'mon yes and this. This film inspired our own super producer. Paul Deccan to say. Hey guys we ever delved into the story of Jimmy Hoffa and I. I don't know I assumed that we had We had not that changes today. So here are the fax WCHS. Yeah let's talk about Jimmy Hoffa. Who is this guy will? He was born James Riddell. You went by Jimmy Hoffa and he was born on Valentine's Day that's February fourteenth nineteen thirteen in a place called Brazil Indiana. I did not know there was a Brazil India kind of cool. I never heard of that place either. assuming the The climate is a bit different in that Brazil He he was aware of. Let's say the American Labor Labor Force the American laborer the person who was using their hands to create something generally for somebody else. His father was a coal miner and he he passed away when Hoffa was very very young or Jimmy was young and his mom had ended up joining the workforce to support her family which which was was a fairly common occurrence as you know The heads of households would die off whether it was through war conflict. Were workforce accident or something like that He had three siblings of four children including Jimmy and eventually they move to a place called Detroit Michigan. which at the time? Time was a hotbed of industry and growing. You know this is This is still before the Enormous enormous blooms of the American auto industry. But still. It's very much an industrious place. It's a great place to get a job and we don't know how much formal liberal education Jimmy Hoffa was able to achieve You know you'll here's historian. Say They don't know whether he reached high school much less graduated but we know that eventually while he was in school he had to drop out yet to help support his family. So we worked on the loading dock of a chain of grocery stores there in Detroit Detroit and while working there imagine how young this guy is while working there. He organizes his very first labor strike and it all hinges on shipments mints of Strawberries. Yeah he actually was pretty demonstrating some pretty serious street-smart to this point already because he used a recent shipment of strawberries as leverage to help get his co workers better deal better contracts for their labor. They refused on the other strawberries until they had secured better a better pay in the thirties. I just have to say right there with the strawberries. Like that's a smart thing. 'cause strawberries go bad pretty pretty quickly. And if you don't own unload the strawberries he's like he was going up the works for everybody basically by doing that and the it's interesting how it set a a timer. I very clear timer on when you'RE GONNA lose all your money on these strawberries and you're also losing money because that truck is now stuck there it was just really smart wouldn't've worked with canned peas. I honestly wouldn't this canned peas. I don't know hard to say. That was just like a serendipitous thing or if he very very much you know was being calculated about that but it was absolutely a smart move and he got what he wanted them in the nineteen thirties HOFFA officially joined the International Brotherhood Brotherhood of teamsters which is what he went on to become the president of At least the unions. Detroit Chapter So he kind of laid the groundwork doc for a career in labor and and it would seem came came by honestly based on his trajectory and his upbringing at that point. Yeah we should also Sousse stopped to for anyone who doesn't know doubtless doubtlessly. We have several teamsters in the audience today but a lot of people in this country and abroad. I don't really know what a teamster is. The teamster the old word atom logically like someone who drives a team of horses right now. according according to their website teamster dot org. The teamsters are America's largest most diverse union They started in nineteen. Oh three is the merger of two team driver. Associations T. E. A. M. by the way not teen in case my enunciation is off and today you will will. You may be most familiar with them as truck drivers right because we've replaced to a great degree. We've replaced Animal Labor with if mechanical Labor so at this time he is He is as you said no joined up with the teamsters he starts the president of the Detroit chapter for many less ambitious people that would be the version of making it. You know what I mean King of the town and the thing is the Hoffer is not a guy satisfied with being a big fish in a small town make no mistake he is a shark. He Expands Union membership. He quickly garners a reputation for getting better contract agreements by any means necessary. Cough cough corruption cough koff Mafia cough cough threats cough right but he started out on us. Yeah that's a very important thing by nineteen fifty the two e's vice president of the entire union so not just Detroit but the entire International Brotherhood of teamsters and just five years after the one thousand nine hundred fifty seven. He is the president of the entire organization. It's one of those things where especially in the ways portrayed in film I have. It's been a long time since I've seen the Jack. Nicholson film that Believe Danny Devito directed called Hoffa but at least in the Irishman. You do get the sense that he felt as though he worse still representing the common man and doing something positive even though he was clearly Heading up what was not a strictly legal enterprise he would. He seemed like he may be convinced himself. And it was all for the greater good and it was all forgetting his fellow brothers. A better deal with the strawberries but in order to do that you you know. We're swimming with sharks here. We got to play Nice with the sharks. You gotta be a bigger a bigger shark exactly because it's all about an US versus them mentality and in this this case us Did include some pretty nefarious characters. Hoffa was to be the subject of numerous criminal investigations and shadow. It was a shadow that kind of relentlessly followed him throughout his career and this is portrayed really really well in the in the Scorsese Film. wasn't entirely surprising his direct predecessor. Sir Dave Beck had also been investigated and he was ultimately tried and convicted of corrupt practices within the Union Dave Beck which which was convicted which gave Hoffa the opportunity to ascend to this position yet. HOFFA persevered nine thousand. Nine hundred sixty four was a big big year for him in a number of ways. Not all of them fantastic. He's big win was that he got nearly all of the truck drivers in the entire entire continent of North America under a single contract uncle. Sam have been keeping an eye on Jimmy and they thought there was something rotten in the teamsters something fishy about his rise to fame and his success. Now at this point he is very very similar to a well known politician. Maybe even to some degree of celebrity right the FBI and then US Attorney General. Robert F Kennedy are watching Hoffa very closely. They are convinced that a lot of his union success is less the result of being a shrewd shrewd negotiator and more result of a close collaboration with organized. Crime also known as the mob or the mafia right so what else happened in nineteen sixty four well. HOFFA himself was found. Guilty of a couple of things. Bribery for one. Also jury tampering tempering odd jury-tampering good jt when when something goes wrong and somebody knows it. You gotta tamper a little bit. Yes right and and that can be really that can be really terrible or just going like. Here's one hundred dollars. Don't talk about me or yeah or it could be something to the level of memories of funny thing Miss Smith your what I mean like. Sometimes you think you remember so you look back and you realize you don't remember member too good after all you know. It could have been anybody there but you know one thing one thing you never forget. is you children smile. And it's wonderful to be able to see that every every day instead of just looking backing and remember in it and wishing you could say hello to him boy. Oh boy does the four. Haven't really they get memory. I was GONNA say just casually mentioning his or her daughter's birthday but like that's that was on those on those on the money. Anyway that's cinematic. I'm sure there's much more subtle. Yes but But that stuff that's when he he was found guilty of both of those things in connection with a previous trial trial that he had They need gone through. Nineteen sixty to two years prior. Yeah he was on trial for conspiracy which I love that people could be convicted of conspiracy and then He was found guilty in sixty four for charges related to as you said Matt conspiracy so that one bad thing that happened to him that year. Yeah he was also convicted of misusing funds from the Union's pension plan and that's a big note in the in the film Scorsese you did and also a note. I believe in the book. I heard you paint houses because the unions pension fund was an enormous amount of money and he pretty much had direct control over it so he can make the money dance to the tunes he chose and a lot of tunes. Were Mafia backed projects. Like in Las Vegas. Right apple hang for wings to be constructed on casinos and as we know a lot of that money came directly from the mob to to start Las Vegas in the first place so there were those relationships That were ongoing and directly tied to dipping into that money which would then be invested invested and get a return and it's not like he was stealing money from the pensioners People who do that money but it was still playing fast and loose with the rules. Assuming you're telling me that. Organized Crime Organizations Launder money through things like labor unions. It's true the money laundering. But it's got a great returned. I'm just GonNa say if everything goes well there's a great return for that stuff Yeah money laundering was was a big part tired of it also. At what point do this may be story for different day but at what point do campaign donations become mm-hmm illegal right at what point interfering with the democratic process all you gotTa do is make an unlimited to go fix all those problems. Well I I think it's safe for for the five of us Paul All Matt Myself And you listening to agree that Jimmy Hoffa probably did not deal deal with these philosophical quandaries in the same way. Yeah is just cost to doing business. So after three years fighting these charges is that his lawyer and again as depicted in the film. It was a union lawyer who was also very aware of what was going on. Made made the argument that this was all trumped up He had exhausted his appeals finally and he got thirteen years in prison in nineteen sixty seven he was incarcerated in the Lewisburg Federal Prison in Pennsylvania and then came along A like minded individual who ascended to the Presidency Little Guy by the name of Richard Nixon WHO commuted HOFFA's sentence than seventy one essentially giving him a pardon presidential pardon with a year and a half of probation however this came came with a string attached Nixon Band Hoffa from holding any union leadership position at least until nineteen eighty so bit of a slap on the wrist? It's a weird one too because it's a string with a time limit. Let's say stay out of the game. You dirty rat. He's saying just sit on the bench until the eighties. Let's let the heat die down a little bit. And it's so so odd to me that Nixon the president came through and said you know what it's it's okay. Is it odd. You're good you're good man. You're GONNA be okay. It's only been a couple of years you got thirteen. You'll be alright. Well Hafa donated heavily. Oh I know the campaign but just to to be able to get a president to do that no matter how much money you're donating to them because in the end it's as you know the public appearance of something like that. But here's the deal. Jimmy Hoffa and a lot of labor union leaders out there are like hugely beloved no matter what. They're doing no matter what they've been convicted of will you know over. The course of time in history will be beloved because there is this this perception at least from the outside and and you know like we said Jimmy Hoffa thought that he was doing the right thing release appeared to believe he was the beginning of the ideology. Allergy outweighed the EGO that exactly that ideology it it ripples out through the public of people who are assisted in that. This isn't window wine and some might accuse me any of being hyperbolic here but it's almost the way you hear about The Way folks in my deion treated Pablo Escobar. You know very clearly bad guy doing when bad things hurting people probably directly hurting individuals in that community. But there's this perception that he's the best chance they've got our he's actually looking out for for the little people who cares in some way they call him Saint Pablo and all that stuff even know completely transparent This guy is is no good. We'll in Hoffa wasn't isn't some mob. Boss now draw one similar exactly if there's Intentions to look out for the the Labor class or the working class so we can imagine you know. I think that is a good comparison We can imagine supporters of Escobar supporters of Hoffa. Not that they're the same in the same line of business but we can imagine the supporters saying hey. This guy's the reason that we have a paycheck is the reason that my family can live comfortably or better than they would have otherwise so we have to remember also with enormous power. Jimmy Hoffa could move the vote and he could sway hundreds of thousands people to vote for or against a given candidate and for the next few two years hoffa wages. Something very like a war. He's fighting that ban on leadership in court. He doesn't WanNa wait till nineteen eighty and he's also working behind the scenes with mixed success to reconsolidate his power base within the Union and then of course as even casual student student of history will recall. Things don't work out the way Hoffa planned or did they. We're going to rejoin him on July thirtieth with nine thousand nine hundred ninety five after word from our sponsor interest stuff. They don't want you to know is supported by better. Help help online counseling. You know. Sometimes life is pretty stressful and we could all use help. 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So they're supposed to meet at this restaurant in Bloomfield field. Township is that the Mockus Red Fox and believe so yes something like that. They're going to say correctly. Going to squash the beef they're going to settle their feud and at least that's what Hoffa thinks so Hoffa shows up or we believe at least his car shows up and he appears to be the only one there you know he's there he's GonNa meet two people but Hamas the only guy there and he's wondering what's going on goose assume we assume because really we have no idea idea we have no evidence at least that is that is concrete as to what occurred after he showed up at that restaurant or at least when his car showed up because His car was there but he was never seen again by anyone except except for the people responsible for what happened to him or himself responsible for whatever happened to him. That's right it's a mystery. It's one of the most long standing standing mysteries that has existed in this country Yeah one of America's most prominent divisive important public figures had simply simply kaiser associate disappearing. And we're almost a half a century into the Post Hoffa era. So what happened to Jimmy. Hoffa here's where it gets crazy. The answer really depends on who who you ask. There's no shortage of theories that have popped popped up over the intervening decades and the most popular suspects being the mob of course but in some cases and this surprise me US federal federal agencies interesting right. Did you guys hear about that. One weird one for Sherman and it makes sense considering that he was such a persona non grata like for Kennedy and the government. I mean they were after him and he more or less shook the rap and then was able to kind of get back into the game. Well we'll we'll get into it a little bit further but there's also the idea that federal agency was involved but none in disappearing him by killing him or anything but by putting them into protection of some sort right yes so at this point in the if we take the high level look got it this point in the world of conspiracy and speculation. The fate of Jimmy Hoffa's entered urban legend status. Which means is that the theory start to obey some of the troops we would associate with folk tales or oral tradition the general consensus now? Is that the mob conspired to kill Hoffa because they wanted to stop him from becoming the king of the teamsters again and that's because while he was locked act up even though he wasn't locked up for the full thirteen cents while he's locked up his former vice president got pretty cozy with the mob even more so than Hoffa was and he he was much more willing to play some games. When Jimmy Hoffa got out the The wise guys. The mafioso knew that he would try to rein them in a little bit and they wouldn't be able to play all the reindeer games that they have become so accustomed to make no mistake. They were probably making more money under that Vice President What was his name? That was Frank Fitzsimmons Frank. Edward I believe Simmons Frankie fits. Yeah so they were making They're probably making more money under. Frankie fits who on earth would say no to to continuing to enhance their profits. They weren't aren't keen to mess with that relationship. So the idea then is that the mob killed them or disappeared him and we see a lot of a common troops just like in other forms of folklore. There are tons of variations on this theory. It's kind of like a kind of like a bar joke or something you know it's like X.. Walks into a bar. They follow the same. Just a mob hit and then Some sort of industrial process to destroy or hide Hoffa's body auty. There are a ton of examples. Yes there are indeed One of them is that Hoffa was killed. Placed in the trunk of a car and the car was crushed in a mob affiliated scrap scrap yard That'd be pretty clever way to go about it. Wouldn't leave a lot of physical evidence though like I wonder what it like seep out of the cube do Takhar like the remains or anything like that. I wonder what that would look like. Yeah I imagine so it would have to definitely be a tightly controlled. Scrap yard scrap yards. Can we really big But this was also in the days before. DNA testing wouldn't fly today. No certain as much especially if it was a known kind of mob Bob tied facility or whatever Another one is that he was hit in the head with a shovel and buried alive. Where are these coming from cheese dramatic? I like it but that it doesn't make the most sense. Where do you have any providence for the for that for the origin of alum? Yes that one comes to us from the Great Rumor Summer Mill. That doesn't that doesn't have a lot of sand to it a lot of a lot of these examples that we find came out later After this happened before delayed also happened before Internet right so a lot of these come about from statements by former former mafia aided individuals usually when they are tempting to seem as though they have leverage so that they can get some juice with the feds maybe get a better deal up to and including relocation and immunity makes sense and that also makes sense for some of the ones to follow which seemed to be kind of variations? Gary ations on a theme right Hoffa was murdered in his remains were placed in an oil drum Hoffa in one container another was thrown into the Great Lakes or was was abducted by the feds and thrown from an airplane. It's waterproof planned foolproof. That's I just think about that. A Ah when has has anybody said you know the best way to get rid of this. Prominent figure is to take them on an airplane and then in full view of anyone. You want to happens to be you know looking up. Let's throw them from the plane right. It doesn't that one okay. So that one comes from the Fed one specifically vaguely comes from a guy named Joseph Franco. I have no idea whether he's related to the actor. He was an older one time. Associate of office and Franco said that he'd kept the the story to himself for years because he wanted to use the Info as leverage in negotiating an immunity deal if he were caught for other unrelated crimes spoiler alert alert. It did not work out for Franken. No we did not. There's one that Paul's a particular fan of as well the idea that Hoffa Autho became this sort of grizzly hidden landmark for a sports team. Oh yeah the ideas. That Hoffa was dispatched etched shot baby. Whatever was than he was His limbs were taken apart. He was dismembered than frozen. And then get this buried inside the cement foundation of Giants Stadium. Now this was then located in Rutherford new New Jersey and East Rutherford New Jersey. Oh what's interesting about this. Just interject is that There's a nice mythic tie in here because in some ancient civilizations and cultures thought when you were building a place of great import you were required to make a blood sacrifice of some sort. This cat's in there right now. This doesn't work with that kind of left. Hand Path stuff because the idea is that he wasn't killed on the site. If you really the magic hit it's gotTa happen. You know live and direct on the place where you plan to lay the stones. Well Yeah Yeah. I can't remember the movie that I just watched the talked all about that. But it had The actor who plays the Queen of Dragons She was was in it and it was like a haunting horror movie on Netflix. Anyway I'll check it out. It's out there. They mention they mentioned burying cat like an alive alive cat in the In the walls this jerks yeah gross. Well anyway in this case it was in giants stadium And this is pretty crazy because it it originates from an interview that guy named Donald Franco's gave in nineteen eighty nine to playboy magazine which I want to say at the time was doing great journalism. resum actually still playboys soldiers on. I'm not as familiar with modern playboy nowadays Sundays. You mean there's the old joke that you just read it for the articles but apparently like for a while it was absolutely a place where a lot of short stories writers Brooke Their Work and kind of went on on to great things man. My favorite Shel Silverstein poem was published in Playboy and I stole a copy as a kid so he could read the poem. Isn't that where that that is quite weird. Yeah it's about the devil. It's a whole thing. I know the one that was Kinda filthy. Yes not for a good one What's the what's the name of the? Oh Gosh the devil and Billy Marco. That's the one and in that article in playboy He claimed that Hoffa was killed by New York. Irish mafia boss by the name of Jimmy Kuhnen and buried at the home field of the New York giants in New York jets football teams so we need to Franco's after coon shot Hoffa with silence twenty two caliber pistol in a house in Mount Clemens Michigan. He in New New York. Mafia hitman John Sullivan Bagged up the body parts and stored them in a freezer for months. See that's weird 'cause you would think you would want to get rid of the body and soon as you can because every time anybody else who knows about the freezer even if they don't know there's a body in it could be an avenue of exposure. But okay. So they've been In this freezer for months apparently nobody opens the freezer this part of town. What do they do after those months surpassed you find a a stadium that is under construction giant concrete monstrosity and you find a place where concrete is being being poured and you place? It's officially underneath there right. That's the whole idea. So so real though. Giant stadium was under construction construction and it was going to open up the next year or planned to at least the bags were then mixed into the concrete foundation in what became a certain section. So if you go if you went to giants stadium and you looked at section one. Oh seven down there deep. That's where Jimmy Hoffa late at least according to this theory and this section was located near the endzone of the stadiums football field. There's one one of the end zone. Yeah there's one problem with this. which is that? There is no evidence other than these claims James by people speaking years after the fact in fact the FBI while the it initially entertained most Descriptions or allegations of the fate of Jimmy Hoffa and the days months following his disappearance. They really cooled on this theory and win. The stadium was demolished in two thousand ten the the FBI did not even bother to show up in search the site because we put him there. I'm just kidding. That's that's not true joking you know I just. I don't think people really get thrown from planes as often as fiction would have us believe. That's the that's the other part of the stories. He was thrown from a plane and he went right through straight straight through that concrete and just like embedded inside there and the Oh and the FBI went off was when the country was still wet and he just went. So let's get get back to Shirin. She is the source of the claims that are made in the book. I heard you paint houses And the Irishman the film film is based on the book. I heard you paint houses. Sheeran says that he betrayed Jimmy Hoffa and he says Multiple Times that Jimmy Hoffa was a friend of his right and he said he pulled the trigger because it was inevitable that someone was going to kill Hoffa and so he thought he felt honor bound. This should be him and he thought also you know. At least I'll make it quick. He'll die instantly. So here's what he said happened. He said that he brought Hoffa to a house in northwestern Detroit. He stood behind Jimmy Hoffa while Jimmy Hoffa was distracted Sheeran shot him twice in the back of the head the double tap APP and then he said the cremated toughest remains in a trash incinerator in the suburbs of Detroit. She would actually gave the address of the House. We'll get to this We gave the address of the House. where the murders supposedly took place? Investigators treated seriously they a search the site for evidence of the killing and they found traces of blood in the house but later testing revealed that this blood did not belong to Hoffa purpose of someone probably died. Maybe she was just Miss Remembering this however was just one of several searches conducted will. We'll get to a few of those afterward from our sponsor this episode of stuff they don't want you to know is brought to you by. Adt You know you guys. I often wonder what is real protection. Mean to the folks who listen to this show security protection it means they get all the latest innovation and Smart Smart Home Security from Adt combined with twenty four seven monitoring from the most trusted name in home security. And that's an all you also get a team of Professionals Designing and installing a secure cure. Smart home just for you. That's the ticket guys. Also real protection means eighteen thousand employees safeguarding your homes. 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He's the agent in charge of the FBI's Detroit office and he was speaking with the Detroit. Great News in one thousand nine hundred nine and he was talking about how he knew what had happened to Hoffa and we have a quote from him here and comfortable. I know who did it. But it's never never going to be prosecuted because we would have to divulge informants confidential sources Informants Comma confidential sources. Ci He is. Yeah well now. Let's just say I can imagine in a case like this with somebody. Like Jimmy. Hoffa the has so many connections actions to probably multiple organized. Criminal Organizations That if you did let say charge somebody that you knew where you were aware of. Who did it but if by doing that? It's GONNA compromise like two or three major. Let's say vice investigations or you. You know Investigations conspiracy like that would be a hard. That'd be a difficult choice to make at least just to find the killer or or to apprehend the killer of another known criminal or associated. Serious says why would why would you give up on this other thing. That is viable right now. Just to just to close that case e-eh because if I don't WANNA put words into the mouths of law enforcement here but I think it's a fantastic point because if you think that someone has already inherently corrupting kind of a dirt bag for one reason or another then do you feel the same moral obligation to pursue a case especially if it means pursuing that case May Preclude your ability to lock up other living criminals. Who are out there still doing things that you find morally or legally terrible? That's a really good point man. I mean it would. It would make sense that Walden at least believed truly believed he knew. Yeah and I would say also I would say also to as as anyone in the enforcement community listening to the show today include Aaron Essay Intern. Steve Steve knows. Full well I imagine that the vast majority of professionals working in those fields would say well. It doesn't matter whether I like someone who has some of a crime. It's my job. It's my career correct but it is a cold hard fact that somebody somebody somewhere would have to make the decision to you. Know if if there was in this is a big. If here if there was a conflict in that way away there were speaking of here somebody would have to make the decision to either continue searching for Hoffa and going down those leads or saying okay. We got to leave this alone. Yeah Yeah I mean it's true. It's true the search continues in two thousand one You know we mentioned earlier the lack of DNA evidence for we're testing now forensic DNA is thing friends Dina investigation rather in two thousand one. These hair strands found in one thousand. Nine hundred seventy five five mercury marquee linked Hoffa to a vehicle that authorities believed was used in this disappearance. This vehicle. This mercury mercury was owned by a friend of office named Charles Chuckie O'Brien and they were actually. They were actually friends. Police and Survivors verse members of his family. Had always believed that. O'Brien played some sort of role in the disappearance. But O'Brien for decades had denied being involved in shape form or fashion. He said in fact Hafa never even been a passenger in in his car. Now just the tip here for all the near dwells in the crowd today if you WanNa stonewall that's a pretty. That's a pretty good way to do it. You know what I mean. That's like just under the level of playing so dumb that you say I own a car. Okay we found these hairs of Jimmy. HOFFA's is in your car. He's never even been in their car. What's fair guys? This is a lot for me to take in a UH cash but But this lead this search also petered out because you see authorities linked Hafa offer us some strands of hair to the car but they were not able to determine when hoffa would have been in the car. This also could mean that since he and Chucky Hang Out A lot that maybe the hair just got on some trucks clothing or something and I think we may be buried the lead here. A little bit. Chucky was More than just a friend friend. He was Hoffa's adopted son that's right and the weights in the movie. I was a little confused about it too. Because there's a scene where somebody pulls a gun on Hoffa offer. During one of his trials like corruption trials and Chucky kick the crap out of the guy and Hoffa makes a big scene Bisazza. My boy I arrays them or whatever you run from a knife. You're Jaya God. He's charged a gun exactly Point being It was at his blood sign. It wasn't his biological biological son. But essentially was someone had taken under his wing and referred to more or less as adopted since then. My question is surely if they were as close as as as record indicates he would've been in that car before he's never been in my car. What is the car I have a car? Don't understand Charles W chuckie O'Brien so there were more searches. They've continued. We mentioned that two thousand twelve search Based on the testimony of Shirin or the statements of Sheeran investigators did search residence based on a tip. Two thousand twelve. The didn't they didn't find anything and found some blood. But it wasn't office you. I think every time tame Sheeran Ed Sheeran no raw. Oh you know power the better teaching myself here. Yeah that wasn't me you know I remember understood. Why wasn't she woman because there was this internal consistency man? Yeah and then she raw like going to be hero. That'd be cool. Thunder Cat sky. Was the superior muscled mutant show in my opinion. I wasn't or cats. Oh aw well. We're doing the LO FI dub step. That was kind of the Hank Hill. I've found is going to be so much more intensity bracing myself because we were we were we were reacting to your brace held back because you are clearly both. I thought that you were you. Were just letting the moment build and you were going to scream it. Oh Yeah knows great. We'll fix it in post now. I need those great yup unrelated saw rewatch the live action. He Man yes will hold up. I liked you who plays skeleton for Oh Not Dolph lundgren frank no and gala. Yeah that's an he lo- he's the only person who hasn't disowned the film. Because kids liked it. He played a very very strange skeletons. You're also you know some toy lines. Just don't have the narrative Haft to hold a feature you know my gosh even had man at arms in there anyway. What else was Franklin Gallon Yeah he's in tons of stuff he's in he's in a bunch of stuff but he was not in the HOFFA investigation allegation. No returns you to to wrap this one up in June of twenty thirteen the FBI gets another tip and they search a field in Oakland Township Michigan. That's about twenty miles away from where Hoffa was last seen. It was a guy vaulting crime named Tony's rally not to stereotype. I put this. Is Tony Heavy. Tail and Zarella you gave the gave the authorities info about where he said Hoffa was buried he also described how Hoffa died. He said Oh yeah. He's the he's the person who said that Hoffa was hit on the head with a shovel. Them buried alive live but she said this an e book that he was selling for profit and nothing came of it. So either the authorities or bad at digging gene or Zarella was misnomer remembering but at this point no one no one has verified any remains. It's the closest they've come would be those strands of hair with off his DNA. But this also leads us to controversies. The Irishman is based on as we said a single book. Both Scorsese and Deniro who plays Sheeran described the character. She ran in the film as a fictional persona based on or loosely inspired hired by the real guy and furthermore not all HOFFA experts agree with Sheeran story. A couple of them think it's total malarkey. Okay Oh yeah. The author Dan Will Dea. He wrote the book. The HOFFA wars and he's been researching the disappearance of this gentleman for God about four years So He was speaking with Robert Deniro in twenty fourteen and he basically was trying to ward off Deniro saying that he you know he's he's got all these doubts about sheer in story telling the Niro that Shearim brand were for. Let's say essentially running a con job abondoned euro saying this is. You should not be doing this. Why would you make this movie But again like the pretty. This is a pretty interesting story even if it's not true I would say it's pretty good storytelling and and it makes me WANNA watch it. Are we in spoiler territory here for the film. I feel like we've kind of danced around it right We can yeah. We could go ahead. Let's do this spoiler countdown. Because it is a new Phil right three two you and one I was I didn't I didn't hadn't done my homework. Is that much before watching. This I knew was based on a book. I did not realize that it was meant to be unequivocally like this guy killed Jimmy Hoffa. This is a win. The moment in the film were that happens. I wasn't expecting it and then then. I immediately googled Irishman fiction. You know I think that's sort of the consensus is that it's a little more fiction or at least you know conflation of fact and fiction is pure nonfiction storytelling because it again is based on one book. One man's account deathbed confession. Essentially you know this guy did not live much longer. Pass this interview. And that's that's got dramatized in the film as well the fact that he is delivering this story story to the perspective camera which is supposed to be the journalists. Have here. which is? You're the stand for that kind of as a viewer. Excellent film but when I saw that I was like Whoa okay. I guess we're this is sort of a hybrid thing. I'm seeing here like once upon a time in Hollywood for example But if you're to believe the book then this happened. I do want to bring something up my my father-in-law talk with me about this. Pretty extensively his. He's also so a Tony and he told me that without getting into too much detail. If this kind of thing was going to go down with somebody like Jimmy Hoffa the only way you could pull it off is to get one of his closest associates or friends to do it himself because he's so protected so it would would make sense for Sheeran's character to actually be the one who's able to get close enough to to do it because we haven't really talked about this exactly but I mean they're basically weekly brothers. Yeah in the film and there's another character the Bufalino crime family whose plea Russell's played by Joe pesci wonderful Performance The three of them are kind of inseparable. They're they're almost like a family But Jimmy in particular gets a really close relationship with his daughter and that's the whole thing But yeah he is trust them like a like a blood brother. One of the other reasons I mean. Think of the logistics. If you're trying to pull off a job like this you you have somebody who not only has a a protective close circle but they also have a established schedule. Oh calendar people know where and when they're supposed to be at the majority of times. It's not like if you're just doing you know if you're ages landing in a strange town finding someone under a bridge that no one will miss for a few weeks like this is an established thing where you have you know you have have at most probably a few hours to get out of town. So it's I it it definitely. I think your father in law is on the money money. Yeah and it's kind of scary but Yeah let's let's continue so Dan. Monday has his own theory. He believes Hoffa's disappearance was in his mind. A New Jersey operation. He said he's interviewed all the suspected killer's in his decades long search for the truth of the matter and he. He thinks that it's most likely that it was a production of New Jersey. Operators Paul Mission Control Deck and raised a great point off air earlier. When when we were talking you said one thing that he found One thing that he found compelling was that the story Sheeran's account felt all kind of understated like the way knoll depicted it. This this death is you know there's not a lot of gravitas buildup. It feels feels abrupt and brutal if that is this last one was last one. Promise if that is Jimmy. HOFFA killed himself. We didn't talk Mike about this. We're not gonNA talk too much about it because there's not a ton of evidence to lean on here but what if he committed suicide which as we all know is the fancy Z.. Pants CRAVAT wearing word. For faking one's death It is very very difficult to do successfully. If you want to make any money It is is not impossible to do if you wanna just disappear and live by their wits or if you have access to someone who makes fairy accurate idea of some sort right right could he have gone with the Federal Witness Protection Program. Could he have gone with your with the Could've gone with the institution. Yeah sometimes called. witless protection And if so what happened to well we know that. Jimmy Hoffa died for legal purposes on July Thirtieth Nineteen eighty-two. Here's declared legally dead as we record. Today's episode his disappearance and his likely death have yet to be confirmed. Let's do a little math. If he were alive in two thousand nine hundred as record this he would be a hundred and six years old that means even if somehow actually went off the grid you know changed his name to Hemi Java or whatever and lived in a small town in Saskatchewan or something he probably already passed away but that hasn't stopped the investigation. As a matter of fact. This is one of the things we can leave you with the film and the book that we've mentioned today may have inspired. US investigators to get back on the case. This is so this is December nineteen. This is right now as we're recording. This as the Irishman has come out there's an interview with us. Attorney Matthew afew Snyder and Sky was asked by a reporter by someone. What do you? What do you think about the Irishman? What are your thoughts will? His statement was Certainly intriguing. I will talk about this but not now I have a lot of thoughts about it. It's unresolved I have my own theories there. There will be more to come on this Mu. Yeah I mean I you know I didn't mean to dismiss this whole thing as being like a some sort of fantasy. Obviously there's there's information in this film and in this book that is meaningful But you can draw your anybody like this is actually really close to the story. Surely there's GonNa be some stuff that there's a ring of truth to or that knows unequivocally is true and I'd be interested to hear this perspective. I think that is the people that are still alive that I think that can really shed some light on which parts of this and that's yet to be determined and this is also tuck duct duct situation. Because many of the people who would've been in their prime indirectly involved have passed on. That's just how you know. Just how the body crumbles right and yeah it makes me. It makes me wonder. If a deathbed confession has already occurred just Kinda went unnoticed glues. The family the surrounding people were just like okay. Whatever whatever GRANDPA or or or even cramp? Oh what are you saying sh Komo no no no no no we. Don't talk about GRANDPA Kampot supposed to be married to get the pillow. I'm just dark. I apologize they take. Hey we're gonNA take a quick trip over. The giants stadium is going to be fine. GRANDPA just come with us. View is from outside the play. Oh this is terrible. Is that field of dreams right now so we at this point passed the torch to you fellow listeners. What do you think has this been solved? Unofficially the way that the former agent in charge of the investigation believes that has will the answer to Jimmy. HOFFA's disappearance Durance is widely suspected death. Ever come to light. Why or why not we want to hear from you? You can find us on facebook. You can find. I just son Instagram. You can find us on twitter special. Shout out to our facebook community page. Here's where it gets crazy. We can't wait to swing by there and see what you think. Think about Jimmy Hoffa. Also hey you know we're just GONNA shoot are shot if you have information about the disappearance of Hoffa Send it send it to us. We won't rat you out we promise. Yeah Ed Sheeran if you know what your you know. Relatives did like let us know you guys got Shrek Tattoo. I did not know that he has a couple. Actually I think donkey and Shrek. He's really into Shrek is he. The one we did. I'm in love with your body. Yeah is that about Jimmy Hoffa. Good Good Ben I I would have preferred to believe it But the the line I believe is now his bedsheets smell like you. Yeah Jimmy Lou. ooh I'M GONNA look up lyrics for this after we wrap I in the meantime. Hey what do you do if you hate the social meets but you still want to tell us what happen opener. Jimmy Hoffa are you. Give us a call. You call one eight three three S. T. D. W. I t. k.. Just give us a call. You'll hear Ben's voice there'll be a beep and then just say I'm in love and your body and you'll be like whoa. 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Happy Hour #211: Sanya Richards-Ross

The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey

59:17 min | 3 years ago

Happy Hour #211: Sanya Richards-Ross

"Hey, friends and welcome to the happy Jamie podcasts. I'm your host, Jamie, and I'm so glad you're here each week on this show. I invited girlfriend to join me and we chat about the big things of I've the little things in life and everything in between. Support for today show comes from prep dish, a healthy subscription base meal planning service, no more. Thinking about your meals, you guys let crap dish. Do all the planning for you sign up and you'll receive an Email with the grocery list prep ahead instructions so that all of your meals are ready for the week. Let's take out all the guesswork and let prep dish do for you right now. Listen, the founder prep dish is offering you four dollars for a month long trial. That's right. You get to try it out for only one dollars per week. Go to prep dot com. Slash happy hour to get your first month of prep dish for only four dollars French. You are listening to number to eleven. And my guess for today is Sonya Richards, Ross, Sonya is a four time, Olympic gold medalist? Yes. You heard that, right? She's married to a former NFL football player and mama to really cute little boy. It was really fun to talk to my first in on the happy hour, not only Olympia in four time, gold medallist, cyanide. Talk about what it looks like at the Olympics. How her training went down and what it's like to be the fastest woman in the world. At the end Siamese shares a super personal story with us about what happened before. She left America to go to the two thousand eight Olympics. You're gonna wanna hold tight to hear her story about what went down. But what I want you to really listen for is the way that God was faithful throughout her whole mess. That's what we talk about here on the happy hour. God is faithful to us and we see that insomnia story as well guys this month for happy hour book club. We are reading my book if you only knew my unlikely unavoidable story becoming free, I'd love for you to join us and share with me all the ways that you're enjoying your own happier book club. Use the hashtag happy hour book club. Okay. Friends here is my conversation with Sonya. Hey, Sam, you're welcome to the happy hour. Hey, Jamie, thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here. This is so great. Now I need to let you know if you think just like every news on the open. All right. Okay. I'm a little bit giddy. Okay. Because you're an Olympian, oh, you're far too kind. That's a really big deal. Thank you know it is right as most of his. I think when you live it and you've experienced that your entire life, it doesn't is not as big of a deal as when other people remind me of what a big deal it is, and I'm like, man, it really, it really was that. Awesome. And are there stats on how many Olympia NHS have ever been? You know what? Especially gold medallist. You know, it's so funny I was I event, and there was this really cool announce if I said his name, you'd know who he was, but I'm the worst with names and he said something like he said, a stat like you could fail like the Giants Stadium, ten times over and you still only potentially have won Olympic gold medalist. And I was like, what are the hamburgers? You know? But it's. Don't do that kind of research and I don't. I don't know exactly, but I know it's really rare to find Olympic gold medalist. I'm like, are you a four-time gold medallist I'ma four-time go Melissa and I have won bronze and I'm a multiple world champion. Maybe somewhere nine or thirteen. I'm like that world championship medals as well. Gold medals. Any ran track? Yes, the quarter and they had the quarter and the and the four by four. So we'll actually ran the two hundred as well cited mainly the sprints. The four hundred was my specialty. I ran the two hundred and rents engineer Olympics also and then the four by four relay. And that's where you won the gold? Yes, four by four. Did you win gold in the four hundred? Did you hold the world record at one time? So I I won the four hundred in London. I was bronze in Beijing, and I won the four by four relay with my teammates at the Athens Olympics Beijing and London. So thrilled ethics in a row, and I have the American records. Some the fastest Americans ever run the four hundred and I still hold that record. What's the time? Forty. Eight point. Seven seconds. Wow. Okay. So let me just give you a little bit of my background as last time the Olympics were on which the Olympics were wear last. They were in Rio twenty sixty s so as every American we love watching the Olympics, right? So like I mean, I like Winter Olympics village, be real, like I really love the summer Olympics because I was I ran track in high school nine. That's where I'm getting. So I actually, you probably did this as well. Iran, did you? Did you ran retract when you were going to occur? Where'd you live? While I was born in Jamaica, and then we migrated to south Florida. So I lived in Pembroke pines and went to high school in Fort Lauderdale. So I lived in Florida for high school when I did summer track and all four in summer track. So our high school team had a small track team. I didn't. I wasn't a part of a big summer track club, so our high school kind is went under the same high school and they and we competed. Okay. So Saint Thomas Aquinas high, I love it. I ran for wings, which is in Houston, and I actually was telling the story to somebody today, someone tells you request. So when I was six grade, we moved to a new town. I go to school and I go out projecting right, and I'm white clearly. I mean, you know that I'm white and so I'd go out for the track team, whatever. And one of the girls at school says, hey, I have my dad's a coach attract. We run all summer. You wanna come and I was like, sure. So I go when my dad and I. We go up and everyone there is black except for I don't know like five people, right? So we go find the coach. He's like, hey, this is my daughter. Tamie she wants to run track. He's like, cool. You can go over there on the other side of the field. And he sent me to the race, walkers. So maybe did it? Yes, he did. Most people are legit job, so they move their hips ways. What happened and okay. So race walking, you have to have both feet on the ground, right? Yeah. So he sent him into the race, walkers while I'm like, okay, whatever. So go over there and they start telling me what to do and I'm like, I do not want to be a Walker. I wanna run run. So I had to kind of prove myself, and so I ended up back on the knee. And so when the Olympics come out, I always get up my medal Smith junior Olympics, wow. Wow, I because my mom framed them because when you're an eighth grade, that's what your mom does. Anything about these metals is that I have taken them with me to every single house. I am forty years old. Forty years old. I ran in the junior Olympics. I stopped ours in ninth grade, so we're talking these medals are, oh, I pull them out and show my my kids. I love it is the pews achievement. The junior Olympics is a big, do I ran fifty nine fastest knife in eighth grade. I peaked was done. That was done. To see we have more in common than you thought. We're both Olympians. But man, eight is a huge achievement. So you come grass, congrats. I really appreciate this really. Great. So do you still how old are you? I have to always think now, isn't that crazy? I am thirty three. Okay. Lady five. So how old were you when you ran in the last Olympics? That would have been, which was the last one London? Yes, smell. Awesome. Those twenty twelve. So that's six years. Yeah. So I was what? Twenty eight, I guess, right. Yeah. Something like that. Go with g. retire. Yes. I officially retired in two thousand sixteen. So after two thousand twelve, I have been running on a broken toe for like four or five years, like your toe was literally a broken, big toe, like it was really bad. I had to tape it for every practice every competition. It was really bad. So after twenty twelve Olympics, I decided finally have the surgery that the doctors had been recommending for me for years, and I had the surgery. It wasn't successful in two thousand thirteen. So I didn't compete that entire year had a second surgery and twenty nine twenty on my big toe on in two thousand thirteen end of that year had a second. Surgery. I competed in twenty fourteen and fifteen and got back to number one in the world, but I had a freak accident on a plane. I'm sleeping and business cards, and this guy literally steps on my tone and I had two screws in my Tony broke my tone and I had to have a third surgery before twenty sixteen, and I started to come back into form, but then I pull my ham. She and I was like, you know what? Time quality of life is more important than chasing more gold medals. And so I retired actually acting Olympic trials in two thousand sixteen we, you know you could have gone, right? Yeah, I mean, and that's the hardest part about it, but I'm also a woman of faith and I know everything happens the way it's supposed to, but I guess you know, everybody asked me if I have any regrets in life, and that's the only thing if I could have done differently, I probably would not have had that surgery. 'cause I won the Olympics one yet. No, not first one is what you're running on this years. I had been running on it, and it's so funny because when you're in the moment, sometimes here's a little teaching moment. You think things are really awful and then you don't realize that they really could be worse, you know? And so. I believe the doctors kept telling me this is simple surgeries. You're gonna get all this mobility. I came out the surgery with no mobility. My big toe like literally. I mean, it was a stiff as a board, and so that is if I have a regret, the only big regret I have of my career is that I, I wish I never had that surge because I think I could have gone to two thousand sixteen and possibly one another meadow and then retired the way I really wanted to. But it was good. That stinks cry. So the man stepped on your show. Yeah, immediately you knew something happened. It's, you know, the crazy part about that too. So I was actually asleep with my eyes shades on on the plane because I used to sleep with those. I couldn't sleep with light and I didn't even see the person that did it because like I literally like came out and I was like, I, I was like, wincing and pain immediately started crying because it was so painful and I leaned forward and I'm crying, pull my shades off and I don't see the person and I never knew even who didn't never knew who stepped on my foot. And I'm like to this day, I'm like, maybe it was a good thing because I would have probably had such a grudge. In their face. Exactly. So I don't know who did it and yeah, had to have a surgery a month after that because it was so severe. And yeah, that makes me think of like, this is your urine Olympic athlete. So you're in the best shape of no one's ever been in and you think about like your little. I mean it's your big toe, but still it's up small part of your body. Absolutely. And look how much it affected you also Lutely. Absolutely. We could take we could do all kinds of examples with this. Yeah. I mean, think about even like if you're like, man, I don't do much for the kingdom gifts or so little. No, they actually really matter for and if you're not walking in your gifting, like if you're big token, do what your big toe needs to do, the whole body suffers. Yeah. No. I mean, it definitely kept things in perspective for me to and and like you said, things that seem small, they have a huge impact and especially now with the way the world is sometimes we do feel overwhelmed like what we do, our contributions don't matter. And you realize that, yeah, you're an important part of the body and that you have to do. What you are called to do because it does make a difference even if it's for one person makes all the difference. So. So you said you're gonna faith? I am, which I knew that. And you're here. Tell me about, did you grow up on e-group in Jamaica, Christian home? What did that look like for you? Yes, I was born in Jamaica and my parents are both Ross variance. And so I don't know what that means. Yes. So my parents, my both parents have dreadlocks and. They believe they aren't like devout. They weren't devout Christians that I was growing up, but they believe in God and my draws affair and beliefs are kind of about the way a way of living. They religion. I don't know if they would call it. A light is a way of life. I think more so they don't eat certain foods, no red meat's, no pork snow things like that. They believe in being kind and just it's just a, it's just a really great way of living really great people. They're really great people. And and when my mom's eldest sister was the one who really once she moved out and everything really got into the church. And so we moved to south Florida. That's when my mom and myself and my sister really got involved in the church and I gave my life to Christ and that's when and my mom's a Christian too. So even though she still has her Ross affair in ways, and you know that kind of loving spirit that she has from Jamaica still lives in her. You know, she identifies as a Christian as well, so I didn't grow up in the church. Initially, my grandma went to. Church a lot, but we didn't go with her when I was younger. But by the time I moved to south Florida. I really fell in love with the church in startup my own relationship with Christ than when I moved to Texas for school, found a really great church home and a really good church guy. And you know, now we just have a, yeah, it's just amazing. So so you moved to what? What we're out of Florida. So my mom's eldest sister was there and she kept telling her, you know, if you want the girls to get a scholarship for school and you want them to have greater opportunities, the sooner you move to the states that better those chances are for them. And so we migrated when I was eleven or twelve, I told the story so many times not forgotten, and so I went to eighth grade was in eighth grade and then went to Saint Thomas Aquinas high school in Fort Lauderdale and I got a scholarship, so university of Texas. And so, yeah, parents moved like, you know, a lot of parents do for their kids and wireless have a better life in greater opportunities. So you ran at UT. Yes, I'm super excited this year because, yeah, first time ever we got season tickets, so also, so we're going to the game. I'm so. Sighted, it's going to be a great season fist. I can feel it good times. Awesome. Okay. So let's talk about marriage with people who have to careers. Yeah, I think this is a question. I get often share my husband and I both having careers people saying, how do you manage it? All you clearly were training, which is a career. It was your job. Your husband was playing in the NFL Scher his job. What did that look like for you guys to still go, okay. We support each other. Yeah, we still got a worker tails off at our individual things. Absolutely. You know, I think for us because that's all we knew when we met each other in college college sport was as intense as it was for him going professional and for me as well. And so we kind of found a way I think it made our relationship very strong and unique because we didn't argue as much because we didn't spend the time that we had together. It was always so valuable. So price had that much had that much when he would be in training camp or his season started and mice are kind of worked out perfectly where my season would end right when his is about to start. So we would wrap our season end of August early September, which is when the football season would usually start. So I might miss this preseason games, then I'm there and on their supporting him, and I understand what it takes to be a great athlete. And so in many ways, I think it helped our relationship because I'm like, hey, you gotta get to bed, you gotta eat, you know, and I was there for him and vice versa and has off season. He was always there for me. So it really helped us because we just had this tremendous awareness around the commitment that it took to be a professional athlete, but I'm not gonna. Pretend like it was always easy. You know, they were times where it was very difficult because sometimes I want I needed him to be somewhere and he couldn't be there. And I'm like, man. And then sometimes I felt inadequate as a wife like I should be with my husband. I should be there. I should do certain things for him that I just physically couldn't be there to do. And so we struggled at times about striking that perfect balance. But I think ultimately when he loves somebody and I do believe wholeheartedly that when people are doing what they're called to do, what they love to do their better friends and spouses lovers. And so I think for him, he saw that when I was running and I was doing, I love to do. I was a better wife to him. And so. Even though sometimes I wasn't physically there, he could always feel that low. And so I think that's kind of how we made it through. But you know, we had our challenges sharp for this. Okay. So let's talk about faith. Sure. Endless. Talk about what that looks like just out in the world. Like I don't necessarily mean like as an athlete, but just for all of us being around people who don't share our same phaser. What does that ban like for you of being in a spotlight in still trying to stick to the boundaries and the behaviors and the treats you'd believe to be true? You know, for me, I think I've always been a person who I am not the one who I tried to just lead by example, and to just show up in the world the way I believe that Jesus would, I don't go out and preach on people or try to judge or criticize. So ultimately for me, I think how I've experienced my faith as an star athlete is, you know, when it's when I feel moved or is appropriate. I share it. Yeah, and and I've, I've, it's so funny because I have like a really short memory, right? So a lot of things I forget and I'll never forget one of the most. Moments of my career. I was in a room and we were having bible study. 'cause a lot of times we have chaplains who travel with us to these different competition in when you are a professional athlete hip up people travel with you Lee chapel? Yes. How do I get that job. Gosh, they're paid job. I don't know how much they get paid for it, but I know like USA track and field. Like if we're in the Olympics, there's a chaplain there. And if you're at the world championships, we have chaplains there and I don't know what it never known chaplains for the professional teachers, but I, I would never thought about. Okay. So a lot of times a mini, the chapel is that we have our athletes who you know are like, hey, this is important to us and they, they make it a priority to come and travel with us. I'm sure the USOC in USA truck and Phil, whichever Oranization funds their trip. I don't know if they're technically getting pay acidy that we want to give back exactly to them. So I'm at this event at this bible study and there's probably about thirty of my peers in the room and source ended my career and we're talking about all these different things. And I remember saying I, I can't remember exactly what led to this moment, but. I said something like, you know, wasted on my career. I've done out of done more. I wish I would have taken moments to to share with with some of my, you know, my teammates and colleagues and pray with them. And I kid you Jamie, at least ten people in that room said, wait, wait a minute. I remember once when I finished a race and I was down and you came over and you held my hand, you prayed with me and another team who ceremony you came to my room and you knocked on my door and I was like, oh my God, like, you know, because I try to be used by God and not force these things. I just when the moment was right, I did. I didn't do it for any other reason other than for what I thought God wanted me to do, and I brought me so it's, here's Scott thought, man, I have been allowing God's who use me and I have said those things where people will Email or text me after race instead man. Like I really appreciate you being a woman of faith and having the courage to say this or that. And it never felt like that to me because I was just doing what came naturally. So you know, it's been a good experience and I've never had any flack or negatively, to be honest where I. Where I felt like I wish I didn't say that, or I felt or not that I wish I didn't say it, but was that the right place to say that I've never really been? I've never really experienced that. I've been very fortunate because I think God has just covered me on my journey. Yeah. So when you're running the world? Yeah, I don't even know championships that meet addition is paying you. Yes. Perfect. Yep. So they'll pay you a prize money, and then of course you're spotlight. You get paid based on the pro the place she has. Yes, yeah. Okay. Only get paid based on what place you get, but your sponsor will also give you a bonus for that place you get, but it's a world championship or Olympic team. The USA t.f are US organization takes care of everything, so they get you there. They pay for accommodation, so there's no expense to you once you've made the team. And then of course your money's just based on your performance when you get there? I did not know that I knew sponsors, but I didn't know how so I'm sure job. Oh, yeah. Fulltime. Yeah, the full-time track and field athlete, and I was ninety two really good care of me. And then I was also fortunate on Olympic cycles to work with some really. Big brands like Coca Cola and BMW and BP and all these brands like this girl is winning gold medals. Yeah, yeah. So that that's how it works as well. Okay. Now when you're on the four by four? Yes, which I'll explain people who don't know it's it's a really for people. Each person wants one. That Brown, the track. Yep, four times four hundred. Are you also competing against your teammates in the. Yes, yes. But then those are your girls. Right. Tell me about that. It's Jamie's a very interesting dynamic that is a little bit hard to describe because it's it's it's on one hand when you're and we compete against each other. I right. So the. Yeah, exactly the individual vents are first, and so you know, in that case, I wanna beat them. You know, I want to be the best. I want to stay on top of the podium. Many times my teammates on the four by four. We don't train together so we don't have. We don't build that kind of long lasting commodity. Like we try and hear you trying to Baylor coach, CLYDE Hart for my entire career professional career and many of my teammates chain in California. So I did not know that then when you go try out 'cause we watched the Olympic trial, right? You try out and then they put together the four best when exactly is sometimes the first time you meet them or yo- racing. Most of these girls have been running into since we're fifteen sixteen seventeen years. Junior Olympic, absolutely. Where you and I could be Jay. I cite note g the junior Olympics when I when we went third, I was the only white. You're on the podium Rulli. So you meet the trials, and then do you train together before you go to London? No. Oh my gosh. So we don't train together and especially the four by one relay which of course shorter relay. It's it's a blind hand off. They need more chemistry. They go over early so training camp and they practice. Okay. The four by four is you know, is not a blind hand off, and many of us have been running the four by fours aren't doing our sleep. So we just go back to our regularly scheduled programs. Get back with our coach. We keep on training for the individual and then we get together. So we're thanks. Sure what leg you're going to run. Most of the times we do like before I four is pretty, it's pretty much like the person who the best is in a run anchor. Yeah, you always knew. I'm probably going to be anchor. Got up and then and then, yeah. So we always kind of knew there was there was a lot of politics and stuff in the four by four, four. I was a little bit different because they're much more evenly matched and you do have to have chemistry. So sometimes the best the fastest four don't have the best chemistry. So that's a different. Yeah. So this, the four by four kind of always just kind of easily panned out. And so we you talk about what the dynamic was like of of competing against these women and then competing with them. And so you think about the Olympics and you want to win, you know, like all of us have been training really hard. We're all supremely talented and there is that competitiveness that even though we are in the same dorms, I mean, we're not warming up together. We're not talking to you for doing our own thing in our zone, and then you go to the back and many people don't know this at the Olympics. You check in our before you race. So we warm up and then we're going through this check in process where in this location and you with these seven women this entire. Time and there's like it got the whole heat together. Exactly. Yeah. If they're in the Olympics. Yeah, finals around. There's only one, so we put, we went three rounds. Okay. So there's most what he says tons of, you know. Heats, and then it narrows down to three. And then the final one of course is one race. So I picture you with your headphones in zone. Exactly. You don't talk to end these are. These are are gonna run within a week together. So as your coach with you or your by no, by yourself in there by yourself, and this is so interesting to take going, you're going through the check in which is an hour hour long up. Yep, I'm thinking about your body. Yeah, exactly. Well, and it's only the Olympics does that. And of course, we, they have to write because this thing has to run because we're only. Time like this is you know, millions and millions of people watching. So they wanna make sure they have somewhere where they, we are, where they want us to be at these times and everything is running like clockwork. And so of course we get used to it after a while. So we're still doing a lot of us are still doing parts of our warm up in the back before we go out. So yeah, it's very intense. And you know, you're you're, it's funny because of course you're hoping then on that day you're better than your teammates. But then now when that's all done, and that's been decided, and you know, we sat on the podium however, that plays out now you're hoping your teammates are better than ever. You want them to be the best that they could be better than you on that day. You know, that's fine. And so it's an interesting dynamic and you learn that you know the better that they are is the better than I am. Right. And so you then in the relay you get a chance to appreciate their talent as opposed to be like, I hope she doesn't want her best best race today, which I think is a really cool thing that I learned as being a part of a team. And now that I've transitioned on doing businesses and stuff, it's like man, like I can see someone's. Potential and see what they bring to the table and really value that as a part of my team and not feel like, oh, it's kind of overshadowing me or whatever. It just makes me feel more empowered and helps me to want to be greater. I love that. I think I always say like everything's better together. Teamwork makes the dream work, man, you this, you know. And so when you do the four by four and you're a game really gets a feel like everyone I want you to bring your best Lutely. Absolutely. Did you what was the craziest thing that ever happened at Olympics. Well, okay. So not with you, but because it true the crazy things happen. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And it's so funny because I wasn't aware of all that the Olympic village, which by the way, I would describe the Olympic village other than what people are and what what we're alluding to, and we'll talk about too, is I like for me, that's almost the best part of the Olympics. For me the first day I walked to Olympic village. I'm like it feels like a utopia because think about it representatives from every country in the world. And then there is Jamie this feeling of hope and positivity that's almost palpable like you can just bite it, like everybody's there, everybody thinking they're going to win. So can you imagine that energy like it's like the ba- and then of course it kind of starts because people get injured and lose and it's like every country is the best of every country. And so that's the part that that's part I'll miss going to Olympic village and being around other anti Olympic village, which I'm picturing like a big. Open area where everyone hangs out, but I don't get it. No, no. So think about it more as like a dorm room. So what it is is where we live. Okay. So it's this huge and every every country goes a little bit different. Like in Beijing, it was crazy. They spent a lot of money. London was really nice. They're all really, really nice. Beijing was probably the craziest where they built like makeshift ponds and they make it like a community. So you have, we have where art warehousing is, which was like dorm setup, but nice dorms. And then we have where we eat hyg restaurants, and then they have shopping areas where you can get nailed the announced, dine like like just for the Olympia just for the Olympia, so we can get our do our laundry, like just think of it because we're there for a month. So they give us every all of the creature comforts that we need on the compound because of course there's tremendous security like you're to get mom and dad aren't just coming in and out like you have to register them as your. No, no, no. Everyone who comes in has to be registered before you surrender. Your passport is a big deal because of course stay with your husband. No hotel room someplace. Exactly exactly. No one comes in for the race maybe or is he the whole month? No, no, no. My husband actually only came to one Olympics because of football. He was there for two days. I just saw the final my family watching you on TV. Yeah, my husband, my first two Olympics it income. That's the third one he came to in the third one was a charm, so it's all good, but. And I always tell him, but yeah, no, it's it's. It's a place just for us. Okay, I got it. And so you know, we we live there. We do everything. They're the only the only sport that usually isn't. There is a men's basketball, the US men's basketball team, and usually because they're just so wildly popular that they just all these professional, you're a professional athlete to you, but you know what I mean? Yeah. NBA LeBron James imagine he won't be. He wouldn't be to make it from his room to any day. Yeah. So the men's basketball team and like usually it's like Serena, like some of the bigger bigger bigger, biggest stars in the world that they're playing. They're not going to be there. I did when Serena competed with Venus, they were there a few times we saw them, but for the most part, the biggest big like the peak huge stars aren't going to stay there just because I mean there's some countries who sent athletes who aren't technically professional athletes, so this for them, it's just like a fun trip, right? Like are going to find the Bronco get all they're going to do is fine. The spouse and take pig. So how coal is Serena Williams right now? Man? How how can you not low three in the morning? Can you not know how can you not? She's just she's incredible, and I'm fortunate to know her a little bit and to be able to talk to her every now and then and she's just a wonderful, wonderful human being into see her, bounce back from everything she's been through because I mean, her delivery was not easy. And you know, she shared her story and her and I talked about that as well. And so, yeah, I just think she's just a living superhero. Literally. You guys, I know you're loving hearing all about Sonya and her amazing stuff that she's done in her life. But I wanna take a minute to think our sponsors for the show because they really helped the happy hour happen every single week. The first sponsor I want to thank is molecule. Here's what I want you to do. Imagine if your phone was the same as it was in the nineteen forties. I know the nineteen forties. Well, that's exactly when the technology that you're using to clean. Your air was developed with the invention of the hep a. filter. 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Yeah. I mean, I think like I told you with my toe injury, if my toe would have allowed me to continue competing, I might have kept going. But like I said, at some point I had to decide, I think I think God gives us our gifts for reason and for season. And I think that one of the greatest things we can do is recognize when that season is over and thank God for and give it back to him. And so I'll never forget in two thousand sixteen before the season started. I had, I wrote a letter to God private letter, thanking him for this gift. She do offline. No, and I haven't done it since just that track and field had meant so much to me if I like the right thing to do, you know. And so I just thank them for no God, like I no matter what happens this season. This is going to be my last season and I thank you for this and I give my gift back to, you know, and it. And I realized in that moment because I was I was able to have a really pretty seamless transition from sports who I got invited. Like the day after I didn't make the team to come and compensate. And then I went to Rio anyway as a commentator, and I knew that was God. I knew it was because I had the courage to let go. Yeah, to move on to tell him. Thank you and say, yeah, it's over. It's over as much as I love it as much as if it were in my power. I may have another surgery and try again because I know I could do it. It was time to say, thank you and let it go and thank God rewarded that obedience. And and so things have been really good for me. I think to go back on that would be almost this ingenuous to, you know that conversation and then promise I kinda get to God. So yeah, I'm at peace about it. What was commentating line compensating was so much fun. It was so much fun because it allowed me to a beach land. You're still in it. Exactly. I'm continuing to the sport in a different way and it's like for me, I, I had been consuming the sports since I was nine. Yeah. And there many times with like, well, they should have said this, you know, like, why didn't they tell people about this part of about? So now I get to be that insight and that voice and was even more amazing is on the first woman in the booth in the past twenty years in track and field? Yeah, they hadn't had a woman for twenty years in the booth. Just all men before you Dino. Yeah, her name is Carol. Lewis Carroll Lewis in the booth, and she competed. She was also an athlete too, and so to be able to now step in place space and to be able to go to the Bank, do the research talk to athletes and share with the listeners, hey, this woman is a computer engineer, you know, the depth of this woman and my favorite. Thanks to hear exactly like far beyond what you're seeing here is that she's a mom or she's a computer engineer, or is she went to Harvard or she's doing this or you know, it's just random things. So whenever the I I love football is my favorite sport to watch. NFL's on my favorite. Yeah, I'd rather watch college. Sure. They're like kids. We can say they're grown up course, but whenever the Super Bowl is on, they always do some kind of story on somebody. Yeah, you know what I mean? The best end. All of a sudden I'm like that show. I'm going for love that guy. They went out, they way man. I'm wearing with him. Exactly. Yeah. And you remember those things like I remember, you know, stories that they've done, you know, other guys over them? Yeah, nothing. That's what even for the Olympics. That's what a lot of people when they connect with us. It's because NBC took the time to come down and do all this stuff. Like a lot of people knew my store with my husband and that's why they phone love with me or whatever it was from Jamaica, or I love to this. I love to that. So I think it is important to add that color because we're all connected in some way. We all have something that makes a similar. So I tried it. That's the part that I love about. It is doing that research and making that person come to life because sometimes they're on the track for eleven seconds or fifty seconds. So how much can you know about that person in that time? So it's been really, really fun. Okay. So I also want to talk to you about this in your book. You talk about one of your lowest moments. Yeah, we've had about a bunch of high moments. Yeah, bunch of amazing things once in a lifetime. One person in the day. But you've also had some really low moment? Yes. So tell me about when your lowest moments. Yeah. So you know, it's really hard still sometimes minute shared this story. And when I was writing my book, I was very prayerful, I, you know, I was asking God, what can I do? What can I write about that will hopefully meet somebody right where they are. Allow me to be transparent and vulnerable enough to kind of get out of the way and to share something that I know it's hard for a lot of women especially to deal with. And so I literally wrote this chapter last 'cause I was I didn't want to share it. But when I named my book chasing grace, which happened throughout the process of writing it, I thought it'd be disingenuous to share about what grace looked like for me if I didn't share the moment in my life where I felt God's grace most profoundly. And so. In two thousand eight. I was having the most amazing season. I was undefeated and was headed to Beijing as the favorite to win gold. This professional season? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I turned pro our became professional in two thousand and end on four, four years. I haven't four years exactly. Technically three because two thousand five was my first year with five, six seventy s my fourth year and and I mean, I was just killing it doing great. And by before I was about to head to Beijing the week before maybe a month somewhere in that time I found out I was pregnant and. It literally felt like for me, it's like my whole life. I feel like you know a little white lie and all that stuff. I was like, you know, I'm just kind of living this amazing life and honoring God. And I never ever ever ever ever thought. I'd be in that situation where I would do something that I thought I would never ever ever do. And so the day before I boarded my flight to Beijing had an abortion can't heading to the Olympic. Yeah. Yeah, I literally and this is not an exaggeration. This is the truth. I have an abortion the day before I get on a flight to the Olympics, and I'm assuming the eirne. Yes, does he know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, of course. So so my husband was actually we were, we were engaged at the time. We weren't married yet, and he was actually already gone away to training camp. He literally probably left three or four days prior to all this happening. He wasn't with me when I found out. And so I call him and I showed us in my book too because I think that sometimes the burden falls. Oh, heavily on women when two people involved. And because my husband's also Amana faith, I feel like he never, we never ever spoke about it. We never said the words just kind of the silence and you know, and so and there was it played relation for a while. Like even when I was writing this book we had, we had like a real breakdown about this, and I realized that he was also carrying a lot of hurt and misconceptions and untrue st- that he carried because of the of this situation we went through two, so it was very healing for us to both go through this process of writing. And so I get on the plane and I am just broken. I'm broken. Like I feel like. You I crossed the line for myself that I never thought I would, and I do. I literally felt like unredeemable it's like, you know it. It felt like the right thing to do because I believe that this is what God wanted for me like everything point on next to be an Olympic champion. Like I when I was nine I had, I knew I was gonna be Olympic champion. I know God gives us our dreams and it's like, why would I be in this situation? And it was really hard for me as you can imagine. And so I guess the Beijing and for the first time, mine tire life. I don't feel like I'm just running seven other women. Women are running my own shame and disappointment, and just a burden and weight of it all was just too much. And so I ended up finishing third in that race and and I almost feel like a part of me like almost sabotage myself, like I felt like it was almost like my sorry, like I don't deserve the gold medal because I'm not. I'm not a champion anymore. I'm I'm this kinda scarred woman and so I'll never forget it. And I showed this in my book, I am broken. I am like bawling and I, it's so funny how people sometimes don't know where we don't know what we're going through. And at the time there was no social media, but I got all these emails because people saw me on the podium and I was literally balling and Pibor like your year, disgraced American ungrateful winner. You won the bronze where I you, and it was so much more than that, like I could be gracious in defeat, but it was way more than just down just been through. Yeah, I had been through an emotional loss, a spiritual loss. And now a physical loss and side is felt like my world was crushing down and so I get on the bus, so so so like I told you a deal. There's not there, right? My mom and sister are there my aunts and I had a lot of family there, but in my now, my mom, my sister knew no one else do my coach didn't know. Yeah, my mom's sister my best friends like they knew my dad didn't even know my dad had no for many years, and so they were all like, what happened to this girl? She's a mental case. I, how could she I? I should have won by fifty meters, not just one I should have buried them. Yeah, and so I learned forget I get on a bus because the option is to go to the village or to go see my family. I don't want to be in the village because I wasn't asking, you know. So I jumped on this bus and it's not a Olympic bus because it's not taken to the village. I'm on a public bus and I'm in the back and I'm still crying can barely even see through my eyes and I look around, I realize I don't think I'm going in the right direction so I get off the bus and now I am. It's like my internal turmoil is now I'm lost. I'm like, I'm gonna foreign country. No one speaks my language. So my interest experience, not my excellent experience as well. And I tell you not Jay. And this is I know for sure, no one can ever tell me that God is not real. I literally felt the loving arms of Jesus wrap around me and hugged me like almost like he was physically there with me. I fell to him and he said, I forgive you like deep in my heart. Just I forgive you and it's like he forgave me before I even had the courage to ask him. I hadn't even been able to confront God. I hadn't even able to turn back and say, I'm sorry. 'cause I act like it didn't happen like just running away from that experience. And so it was such a huge Tony point in my life because I realized in that moment that I can't do life without God, I am just like everyone else. I will fall into sin. I can do anything that any of the man could do unless I constantly turned back to God and I invite him in on every part of my journey, you know? And so it was part of the one of the most amazing experiences of my life after how they one of the worst experiences of my life and then to kind of feel that whole experience for me because I didn't the. Relay comes through four days later. I didn't even want to run. I didn't want to get on the track. I was around the team. Of course. I'm anchor leg. Yeah, I'm still, I'm third, I'm still the best American. The next American in the race was I was only American that made the final. So I'm the best American investments. I'm the. I'm the anchor leg for this team and I'm telling you, I can't do it. I can't go back out that cannot do it. I am too broken. I cannot run and my mom is like, you will. You can do this. You will overcome this. You're fine. You can't do this year prepared, and so I get out there and I'll never forget. You still haven't told your coach, nobody not. I wrote the book. No, I didn't. I n he's like, oh, this makes sense. The whole world is that you make at least the people that follow the sport of new at the time how good I was. And so I get back on the track and for the first time I career and mind g the Olympics happen every four years, but we run worlds and all this stuff. So I'm running anchor leg for years and years and years. For the first time I career, I get the baton behind the Russian team and the rushing teams are really good team and deepened my spread like I am leaving Beijing with a gold medal. Like I knew I would. I came here, do I know what I'm capable of? And so I get to a ton in behind far behind. We're probably about fifteen minutes behind and this woman is good. Like the woman. She got faith in the four hundred. So I'm third, she, yeah, fifteen meter head start. Yeah, you know and only good people at the Olympics. That's absolute right. Let's be honest. Exactly. Anchor leg. Yeah, so she's victim fifteen years ahead of me. Close the gap a little bit, and then I settle and the last part of the race I come off the turn I'm still behind. I really don't pass onto the last fifteen minutes of the race coming around already on the road. The road code on the home stretch still, and I pulled out thinking, I'm going to pass right away and this woman finds another gear. And yeah, and I'm like, oh my gosh, but I don't lose focus. I keep my eyes on the finish line and like fifteen minutes ago I pass her and we win gold. And I feel like this is how much God loves us. He's willing to run us down. He's willing to get us the victory and it just kind of brought everything full circle to me that that's how much God cares about us is that he wants us to have the victory. God never wanted me to lose that gold medal. He's still wanted me to be victorious, but he did want to get my attention and he didn't want me to understand that I am not better than anybody else because I can run fast any of those things. I'm only great because of him. And so. That's the that was the toughest part of my life. But also one of the most rewarding is a, I mean, even just like, I'm sitting here and I'm listening and I've never had an abortion or experience. I've talked to many, I talked to people in the show that Half Moon, but even the fact that you've got on a plane the next day. Yeah, not to go to your grandma's house. Not to go in ninth grade, not to go finish your senior year college, but to go run in the Olympics from body stamp lab. -solutely is crazy. Absolutely. It's funny until like I do not remember that part of it because the doctor said, I should know anything for fourteen days, and I was like. I mean, again. To do. Yes, even see me on the TV. Exactly. So even physically, I shouldn't have been doing that and and it's it's crazy because when I got to Beijing because he was day travel, so probably two days between by the time that happened, I'm actually settled in Beijing. My coach want me to go train the next day, so I wasn't at least give myself one of the three out of four days out of fourteen. Yeah, I've got a fourteen days to be no activity, and then I'm back out there. This is in so many ways. It was just so much going on emotionally and physically. Yeah, you know, when I hear stories like this and I have a similar story, I got pregnant college twice actually didn't have. I had lost two babies, so similar stories and what I am proud of you for. And I can say in a weird way proud of myself is it when we share our stories like this and when we're vulnerable with the hard thing is when other women go, okay, if God can still love her right, he can still love me. Absolutely. And that has been the greatest part for me of. In the beginning, I got some hate mills stuff. I knew that was coming stars prepared for that. Got all right. Dr dealt with that. But when I tell you the women have reached out to me and said, thank you so much because I, that's my story and I'm afraid to tell this person. I'm afraid to tell that person. I haven't turned back to God. I have not said, I'm sorry. And now I know what I need to do to at least start that road to recovery. 'cause you're always still healing from that? It's never totally over and you know, and for me, it's like, I know I know that God has forgiven me, but it's about forgiving ourselves and moving beyond that and knowing that we aren't going to be measured based on our worst mistakes in our decisions where so much more than that. And so that's been the best part for me is being able to help those women to navigate what it's like. Because yeah, no one talks about it. How'd you Erin deal with that? After we wrote the book or during the time during the time? I mean, I'm gonna like y'all just like it didn't have exactly Dame. Excuse me for a very long time. We act like it never happened, and I just lived with this little thing that I always felt that I couldn't. Quite shake and it's like, but I wasn't confronting it. And so I wrote my stuff, it stuff it stuffing. I had a girl in the show that had two abortions are life, and she said that it wasn't until she got sober Nasheed even remembered the second one. Not like she was like out of it. Right? She pushed it so down. Yeah, the literally it wasn't till she got sober that she went. I've actually had to abortion. Yeah, and I know, I mean, sounds different, but right, you just kinda push it. You just push it, you just push it because no one knows like he goes like you. It's not like I'm walking around and you know, so I don't have to deal with. I don't have to confront it and you and Aaron are in two different continents. Yeah, exactly. So you get back together and never happened. You know, we don't even talk about the hurt in the everything, and I'll be honest with you too. It's like it's it's an Oregon show for saying it started way before, but they're in women's sport. It happens. So there are my peers have heard who who did it, and they're like, do. Yeah, exactly. So then and in the book I write that you make this decision just thinking that's what you do to fix it, and you don't realize around the -cations and the weight of it until much later in a sense is it wasn't the first time you would have you would you wouldn't have gone? Oh, I wonder what other people have done. Right? You would have known right? Exactly care of it. Right. 'cause I've heard people talk about it before the briefly like, you know that happened and it's just like, wow, and it's just like you move on and and so, yeah, so you decide to write about it? Yeah. So you and Aaron have to confront it? Exactly. What was that like? Yeah. So when I talked to him about it because God is kept place on my heart like you need to talk needs to do this. So I said, maybe how do you feel about me writing about two thousand eight. He knew what you amount of course, and he was like, well, you know, if you feel like God wants you to do that, I think you should. So even then we didn't really talk about it. And then I start writing and I start and I record and I talk about it and I'm going to go back. You have to have to go back. You live. And you know the part for me that made it even more real when I journaled. So I had written, I wrote already in the moment. So those feelings were so easily accessible. I hadn't opened that journal and that part of it chevette. Yeah, but I had it and so eventually, as you know, baby one of my true so that I feel is that I almost feel like you weren't really. They're like we didn't. And then I felt like, you know, you didn't experience what I experience he didn't have the. And then when he said to me, that's not true. He said for so long, I thought we the reason we hadn't gotten pregnant again was because of that abortion, I thought we were being punished and I was like, oh my God, like we gotta take and carry that way. Of course he was carrying that way, you know and he, he's a Christian. He he'd been a church way longer than I had his whole family grew up and the church. He never thought he would do that. And so because we have spoken about it, I didn't realize the burden and it was on him and vice versa. So unearth forget we were on the couch in our home, and we literally had a balling session where we. We hugged, and then we said a prayer and we just ask, I suggest, forgive us wholeheartedly. Forgive us, but also take the burden on the way to way from us and the untrue. And it was really a great great moment far relationship because I feel like we went to another level of honesty and like really like having our souls communicate and it was. And that's honestly because we communicate very well. That's why I've been together so long. That's that was the only thing that we both just kind of locked away and both new way, but just didn't. Really. Yeah, with you, don't want to go back. Nobody wants to you. You're not saying, hey, I want to go back into hurt today. Right? Exactly. Sometimes you gotta you gotta deal with it fully. Yeah, or else it stays there? Exactly. Well, I'm just like, I know that that's going to even if it's not abortion. Sure. You know, it's something that we feel as though I can't come before God. I feel as if people knew this about me, what would they say exactly in? It's just saying God, Jesus died, absolutely. For all said for often the big the all of the exactly died once a key he to of it. Exactly. It has finished. Yes, done immense. Oh, well, thank you for sharing the close. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I was gonna ask you, your husband was still in the NFL win, Colin. Kaepernick needed. Right for. To bring attention to police brutality African-Americans, the states. Have you talked about what it would have been like? Had he still been in the NFL? Have you had those conversations? Oh, yeah, because my husband is also very much in tune with everything that's going on. And as a black woman, there is so much that we deal with, but there's another level for black men and even for me now as a mom of a young black boy, I see and feel that hurt for moms way more deeply than I did before because it's just quite natural before I was a daughter. I had never experienced what it's like to give birth to someone to love someone to see the potential in them to know what kind of person they are and for that person to be misjudged by the color of their skin. So you know, for Austin is very, it's it. It hits home and you know, you know, Ross for sure would have wanted to be a part of that protests than he would have. Taken a knee for sure with Colin Kaepernick and we have so much respect for what he has done. And you know, I just wish that we could take out all the other layers and just get down to what the heart of the issue is in. The matter is here is a tremendously courageous, young man who didn't do anything, but take a knee. What other form of protests can you do that? Is that almost subservient and unobstructed on obstructive or intrusive. It's just, you know, as shame that has been spun in so many ugly directions. But for us, it's all about how can we and what parts do we play in ensuring that the stuff just stops happening and that young black men get opportunities to go on and to be tried in a courtroom. That's where they need to be tried, you know, and not on the streets. In the instance, I feel some of the same feelings, you feel the differences? I've always been white. I don't have any sure background of what it means to be black in America, but being the mom to do black boys, it has been completely sobering over the past couple of years of fear. Yeah, of I, I live in fear alive for them run. One of my sons is Haitian, and so his skin darker there. And he has strap locks and he's just all my kids are beautiful because they are. Kitchen beautiful, but I do I. I have something that I'd never had before, of course had I don't ever have with my oldest son who logical of fear of them being judged by what they look like Ryan, it's scary. It's scary. It's very scary, scary. And you know, it's it. I wish it's assists funny because even as I was driving here, it's an hour drive down here. Jamie and my mom. 'cause I do a million things and my mom is like, what did you today at Ohio Tabata stuff? And you know, big part of it is for me is meeting new people having new experiences. And I think because I got to travel the world and I became a little bit more aware and conscious of different types of people it, I enjoy it. And so I was looking forward to coming down here in meeting you and and so I, I just wish that more people would do that, like you adopting a blah. I don't think everybody's adopt a black baby or a white baby or China. We don't need to do that. But if. Just in community. If we just go out of our way to interact other people that don't look like us, we would be like, oh, wow, this girl is just like me, you know, or or they would. That's what I felt like as well as. When you meet someone who's an you become a relationship with someone different than you is when what the media tells us or what she's are, they become you can touch that. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, it's like the whole thing with, you know, the immigration that was going on order? Yes. If you've never met someone who is from Mexico, who has immigrated to United States America for whatever reason, those issues are just issues. Right. Exactly. Exactly. When you meet someone and you see them, you know, every two weeks with whatever you do in your life. And they say when I was four, my parents brought me over. I've lived here my whole life. I have a college education, exactly. Difference difference different. There's no longer issue. It's real. It's real. It's ruined. You feel you know how it really impacts people. And so just signing a law or just issuing the statement, it's different when you're like, man, like this could affect my friend who is a great great person as much as citizen as I am. You know? I mean, I migrated here. I mean, I am a knocked. I'm a naturalized. Zain, but on my whole thing is on some level we all did like just about everybody did like this because I am one year. My first generation is a different or my son. It doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things were all the say. I mean, we all want the same thing. It's just happy. And have you seen the musical Hamilton? Not yet. It seems like a weird connection here, but let me tell you so do you. Okay. So we saw it this year. Also the entire cash is made up of a minority culture ride. Yeah, it's amazing. I've heard it's worth every penny that you would possibly pay. My husband told me that the reason they did that because it's based also they play characters who are not minority, right? But the I hope I get this right, someone will correct, correct. But my husband told me that they did that on purpose to show that everybody that came to American, the beginning they were all immigrants, right? They all showed up here, Mike of cooler, and so. I thought that is so interesting of what you just said as well as was the none of us started here? Yeah, except for you know what? I do have American Indian and. Little bit that. But she didn't show up here. We are. Exactly. I love that. Well girl. Thank you so much. Thank you. You guys are just talking about noonday collection, and I just want to invite you again to take that next step and consider becoming noonday collection ambassador. If you joined by the end of October, you'll get my favorite feather earrings that are to die for and I wear them all the time and you guys complement on them all the time head on over to noonday collection dot com. Slash Jamie Ivy to learn more. Okay. Guys there it was my conversation with Sonya. I hope that you saw what I saw at the end of her story about her abortion experienced before that two thousand eight Olympic. My heart was breaking as she was sharing. The story with me for my heart was also rejoicing. She was saying the forgiveness that she felt from God. I hope if you have a story like Sonya and it may not be abortion, it could be anything fill in the blank that what you'll hear when you hear her and I talk about this is not just a story of what happened, a story of what went wrong, but you'll hear a story about a faithful God who loves his kids, even we mess up. That's what we want. To hear about this. Oh, and don't worry you guys after we stopped recording? I totally showed her all my medals like a really big door. I'm telling you she's a four-time Olympic medalists. I have a medal from the junior Olympics eighth grade. You know what I embarrassed myself. But whatever guys today show is about Kris with pod shaper and the music was developed for the show by Matt Graham next week. My guest is Nicole Zaluski. We sat down in coal shared with me about some grief that she's been walking through, but how even in the midst of that she has joy in there is hope it is a really great episode. Make sure you tune in next week. Guys. Enjoy your week, share the show with a girlfriend and have a happier, the friend.

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Robert Hoff

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

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Robert Hoff

"And then you know. I was thinking about this question and more artists. That really stands out that that that just became such an important part of my life and still to this day although he passed away many many years ago was harry jason. I absolutely love harry jackson and a real soft spot for his music and He's lyrics poetry and he was very important to. My father is very important to my family. And like i said music was just always there with him. However one and welcome to a new episode is set. Lessing bruce your podcast. All about bruce springsteen his music and mostly as fans. I am your host jesse jackson joining me. Today is a new friend robert. Hof robert welcome to the show. It is great to be used as a. Yeah so Tell us about yourself. what's your elevator. Pitch sure sue I am First and foremost A husband and father. And certainly what i am most proud of i live here on stanford connecticut. We've three boys they are now eighteen. Fifteen and ten years old. And i am an attorney by trade and For my living. And i also My spare time. When i can before this pandemic i played drums and cover bands so That is my belief that is my energy the app today. And how i get down and it's my sort of side. What kind of terni where huma In litigation and what we refer to as white collar criminal defense security fraud and things of that nature. Did you get a call. I guess because you don't have a billboard to come to the capital a couple of weeks ago like last week to try to you know I take it. You didn't get a call from the trump organization like hey. Why don't you work for us so we won't pay you. I'm sorry could you miss you want alone so this doesn't get to that. It's highly unlikely. My law firm would agree to represent Donald trump. But you never know it was. It was really funny watching this. I mean if it was if it wasn't so sad it would be funny right that It was crazy so anyway. Well i'm so glad you're here So you and your family. How are you guys doing during. Covert duping pretty. Well i mean. I definitely knew that we are Much more than a lot of other people you know we Certainly my job has been steady. Which is very important We will all be healthy. Which is the most important. My wife is a teacher and she's been working in so she's fulltime in school wearing a mask for eight hours a day and that's really hard for her and she comes home tired and winded. But my boys have been real from i They've done what they have to do. They are mostly in person My is actually overseas for the year. He actually planning sort of gap year before college even before it happened and it worked out really well because you know kids who were starting college or did in the past year religious have not had to college experience and my son My oldest fortunately is in a place where he's having a great time he's experiencing great veins and He he's in quarantine lobbies lockdown a lot. But he's a pretty good position compared to a lot of other people so oral. You know we can't complain. We're doing okay. That's good to hear john you know. I know i'm so you've gotta be so proud of your wife anyway. Teachers are just so amazing and to be doing this. It's got to be frustrating. And scary. And i know i was seeing somewhere. I think it might have been the times or some website that said that we could that if you could move all teachers in front of the line to get vaccinated it would only delay things by a couple of days at most. We have enough down that and then you could reopen schools and do more. I appreciate all the work she's doing and so i always like to go the beginning. Robert talk about growing up. Where did you grow up from. And what kind of music did your family listen to short. So i grew up in a town called rockaway beach. New york okay. That is the same town. Speaking of music That the ramones sing about in their song rockaway beach. Thank and as a great town on the southern tip of new york city. Most people don't even know it as little peninsula. That juts out of long island. Actually you know into the atlantic ocean and literally. I grew up two blocks away from the beach and it was just a beautiful place and still has and my mom still lives there and we still go out there and it's just really a great place Music always always always a part of my family Grew up the brothers and house. And i have a half sister as well and my father who actually passed away. Last january obviously both four coded Music was really really important to him. And there was always music in the house He played and he loved. Do and nineteen fifties rock and roll and we actually had in our basement A real you know horror in jukebox played forty five records and it was filled these great old fifties and rock and roll songs and got to know music through that and back. Then you this is the late seventies early eighties. That i was growing up. You could buy forty fives for any music. Right so I would buy forty fives for the music that i was into. And you know potholes and the box. You have a that. And my parents love barry. Manilow and he had some very manilow owing there and it was a sort of eclectic. Mix we looting. New york we went to broadway shows a lot and so broadway was a huge part of her life. And then you know. I was thinking about this question and more artists that really stands out. That just became such an important part of my life and still to this day although he passed away many many years ago. Harry jason. I i absolutely love harry jackson and a real soft spot for his music and He's lyrics poetry and he was very important to. My father is very important to my family. And like i said music was just always there and then the last thing i'll say is I mentioned i do play drums. And i started as a kid and so the other thing that happened in my house was because i was the drummer and i couldn't carry the drums to friends. Houses really really bad at twelve and thirteen year. Old musicians were banging away and playing. Have you got in my basement all the time. That's awesome so we're able to see harry perform life so i don't remember what year he passed away. It was the early eighties. Eighty one or eighty two. But harry cheesman was my first concert and i don't remember i was i couldn't have been older than seven or eight years old. My parents of you know have pointed out that. They took us to prospect park. Brooklyn to harry jason. And the one thing i will i will tell you remember room concert. I don't remember music. I remember the smell better one. How funny so. I was I graduated high school in seventy seven And my I grew up in a small suburb off. Lake charles louisiana as dench by the band and and lucinda williams rates on. Yeah so So i know it was It was some either this. If i remember it was a winter but it was either seventy eight or seventy nine. It may have been eighty. I don't think so where he came to lake. Charles to perform. Harry did and it was a stormy dark and stormy night like from snoopy and So he didn't bring the band and so it was just him and so when you walked into the theater there. Was you know a chair a guitar. Stand and a little stand with the glass of water on it And he. I don't remember how long he played if felt like forever. And it felt like you're in his living room sharing so that's truly one of my highlights. I am I actually had a guy a couple of years ago. Join me for an episode. And we talked about harry and loving his music. So that warns why. I I was just i was. I was skimming through songs. And i ran into mail order annie and that stayed in my mind all day today just so you know. Just a great song. Tastic song will tell you. I know we're going to talk a lot about bruce. Took one hundred shaven Very recently i actually came across for the first time. And i think it was on east. Radio bruce seeming. Remember when the music and you know the story that he told Harry before that. And how harry you know met him and and to zero you know doing something for charity and helping to give back and you know i. Hey that that was probably a big part of the influence that bruce now gives at his concerts to help feed the hungry. Exactly yeah i agree That's really funny And yeah i do think that and i that is a funny story where he talks about. You know to the extreme. You know. Because harry i do one for them one for me one for them one for me And i know he's very active in the Whyhunger you know that Harry created so. That's that's awesome. That's great so as you're growing and getting finding your own voice in highschool it sounds like you're playing a lot of music. What kind of bands were you in high school. What what who were your idols. Then as you're banging on the drums so certainly as a drummer There's just no doubt about it. That i was a john. Bonham led zeppelin guy through I just thought bonham and still think that bonham it was just a guide as adrover And when i was in high school this was the late eighties and early nineties. If things happening i was. I was really starting to feed your ow. Classic rock music. I was getting a new pink. Floyd led zeppelin and the rolling stones and the who At the same time you know remember the mid eighty his. This was mtv right. This is when it took off and bruce for example You know just guy. Gigantic big before but was born in the usa. Forget about it you game like one of the biggest stars in the world and you to was huge time. Joshua tree album had come out. And i was listening to that Also you know growing up in new york and went to high school in brooklyn not the use of the reasons for this but i also listen to a live hip hop and a lot of dance music. And that's what was going on at the time. And i think i always had a really eclectic mix there were also you know the sort of hair metal bands. We're really batman. That's when that was happening. So i was in bands. That was playing. You know we were playing guns and roses and ozzy osbourne metallica. You know things of that nature I started to learn about rush starting to learn about you. Know it'll hurt God bless his soul passed away last year. But you know just saw. What an amazing drummer he was. And you know it's just a good time to grow and lawrence aims and grunge was starting to happen and jane's addiction. I remember i went to the first lollapalooza tour which back then was a jane's addiction and it was iced tea. Remember ice tea doing half of his hip hop and half of it. Doing like death metal. Really you know. I think a lot of kill his way with school. But you know for me. It was just an exciting time. Musically allows going on and in addition to play the bands. I'm playing in. We had something in brooklyn called sing where the high schools would have competitions to the grades each grade. We put on show And i was always the drummer for the band for drain played a lot of music that way so just just really a lot of a lot of learning about music. Frankly so win did you. Just discover bruce and what about him spoke to you. Yeah so Discovered bruce from the board of new album You know. I probably in the back of my mind known some other veins but again born in the usa and him just becoming idle at the time being one of the artists who was on mtv. You know all the time. That certainly peaked my interest in. I certainly remember having that album. I also happen to remember older brother and he had a lot of vinyl before me. He's older and he gets up before. I did and i vividly remember him having the dark on the edge of town album on mine all and back then i was a young kid. I was probably ten or twelve years old when i first saw it. Bruce was scary to me on the cover of that album. I mean he's in that dark house and he's wearing a white undershirt and he looks really somber and He looks like a really serious kind of dude to me. But in any event it was really born in the usa. And i know that my friend and his father took me to show. I think he was probably giants stadium. I don't know for sure. I don't remember for sure it might have been. You know. the brendan byrne arena and it lands but the details of the show but i remember the energy. I remember how many people were the air. I remember i was a little kid. So people were taller than me. Concede over people's heads. But i do remember that experience on the thing that really got me hooked the thing. That really turned me onto bruce. Was the box set alive. Seventy five eighty five box set in ahead on cassette tape and pop today in a i heard on the road and it's that he had only version and that blew me away. It absolutely blew me away. And i listened over and over again. I kept rewinding right down the lyrics and sort of you know practice singing along and that song just haunted me still does to this day I just think it is so beautiful. I think it is so poetic and from there. You know just diving deeper deeper. But that that's really how it got started was he. Just the the complexity of the lyrics are just just something about that song. Spoke to you right yeah. I think that that's long will to this day. It do that in doubt my my favorite song of anybody. Certainly my favorite bruce long. I think it's the poetry of it. I think it's the story telling of it Know i think bruce is just an absolute master storyteller. I think that his songs are like novels and again i'll use the word poetry and that saw on the imagery story what that conveys Some of the is are just. You know absolutely beautiful. And i i could go through every one of them but it just things like you ain't a beauty but hey you're alright That line It just is so real in so sort of plain but beautiful. And i just kind of feel that way about you know most of what bruce has done but but maybe because it was the first one that caught my attention again. That's just just sucks me in and blows me away aren't very nice So you mentioned going to an early show is like the preference this question robert with a disclaimer. I don't think the amount of shows you've seen as a fair barometer of how big of a fan you are because depending on where you live you're born economic situation age can adjust but do you keep track and if so how many shows have you gone to. I don't i don't keep track And i'll say this. I wait to that horny. Usa tour. When i was a kid it was probably many years later. Until i started to go with more regularity You know after born in the usa. He did you know some solo work and you know then. Really kind of took a hiatus right. John solo albums but there was no us free band going on and in that period of time in sort of the late eighties and the nineties. I really dove into bruce the artist and dove into albums. And you know. I got to read about him and studied the lyrics more and just kept getting deeper and deeper into the music and songs then in the mid to late nineties tracks came out. You know the tracks box shot and that was another moment for me. That also just kind of blew me away because i said to myself this guy who had been learning about and listening to you for last ten years had all this other amazing that had come out yet and that was just amazing to me and then you know. He did the reunion with the eastern band. He did the late nineties. Maybe ninety nine I'm not sure of the exact year but he toward again and you put the band back together. And i saw him imagines for garden on that tour and you know from that point forward really from late nineties is when i just started going to every four and just really hadn't stopped and you know we we try to few shows when he's in town so i don't know the number i really don't. I just know that you get really excited when it happens. I try and get there as much as i can. And and you know it's always a party. It's always an amazing experience. Do you have any stories from shows that you wanna share songs. That meant a lot. Or you know. Moments d. Bring the kids. Yeah so so. The answer is yes. Yes yes and that's all for sure. would definitely say that the greatest experience i've had and it was more recent one was i get to see him live on broadway and that evening the way you described your Harry any experience with watering guitar. That's what that felt like to me now. The funny thing was. I was kind of sitting all the way the back of the theater. Upper deck actually got a seat where there was like a a support paul in between my legs and i had to kinda lean left or right to see stage. That night was just magical. It was just magical. And i've watched it on netflix. Dozen times says. And i feel like i'm sitting in the theater because it was just so great One particularly Interesting thing about that night. Is you know sitting in the broadway theatre. And you know like i said i'm of upper deck your upper deck in the small broadway theatre. You're kind of i level with balconies that are on the side and in one of the balconies about ten feet for me was billy joel. How cool and that was really cool. That diligence was there to see it so that was certainly one of my great experiences that evening just again for the reasons i've said because of his job or retelling his imagery and as recently talking to one of my colleagues at work and he also played a band. Maybe he's the bass player and we talk about music all the time and he was never a big boost guy and he said you know i really just don't really get it and i said do me a favor. Watch live netflix. Special live broadway. And he did james the next day he said. Wow i get it now. Get master Do boost fan and some of the things that he observed. Which are you know. It's not just about the music. The lyrics is about storytelling. it's about the mannerisms and the body language and even look he's an actor right. I mean he admits he's an actor. Could that show jokingly talking about where frog he is because he came up with all these stories. But he's really doing at it he's really good at at being bruce springsteen and he's become such a master added to watch. I do wanna tell you about. Let me ask you. did you see that show yes. I was lucky enough. My wife You know bless the me trying to find out. Someone on a facebook group reached out to me. Because i had said i wasn't gonna go and people were complaining about people going more than once and you know. My argument was And they said it wasn't the same thing but to me it is If you have tickets for four Stadium shows in a row general mission. You get in the queue each time and it wouldn't like you said owner. No i was. I m i got the number drawn. I was elbows on stage now. Then it's time to let somebody else have that chance you know. I wanted every time i can. So what's the difference. If someone has the financial you know Ability to go to broadway multiple times you know there and So the guy reach down said warranty going. I'm like well. I don't have the tickets and i don't have the money and you know and he said well i can get you a ticket. How much are you willing to spend. And i came up with a middle figure and So my wife said okay. Well let's look into this We found a round trip ticket. That was pretty cheap on american and you included a The a night in one of the pod hotels you know like they have in the city that it's basically it looks like a cabin for a cruise ship. You know but it was perfect for me. So you know i got to go. I went And i you know. I'm like you. I'm just in love hearing all the stories and it's funnier than i thought it was going to be. It's it's just you know and it's there are few i i would. I didn't go in blind. I had known the set list now. I had not listened any bootlegs of them playing. But i knew the set list and i thought a couple of times will typically wanna hear my father's house or you know and i don't wanna hear the blues version of born in the say. That's not a song i like. And that's weird. You're doing answering the dark of all the songs. Why'd you do that. And then i go. Okay first off you should know. Better to question bruce. Secondly shut up fat guy Because it was perfect and And so in my buddy. Sam went on next time he said i'm looking at the set list. And i'm just not sure like really. This is a song i'm going get. I'm trust me sam. When you're there you're gonna go okay. It's perfect so i just loved it and and every once in a while I will pull up the Dancing in the dark to land of hope and dreams that one two punch is just kinda perfect way. Am i need a pick-me-up. I just will pull those two songs and play it. And just it gives me chill bumps. And i'm you know like okay that gave me a little actual pickup the well. I'll tell you something about dancing. The door that's a song that you know when it came out in the eighties. Yeah would you. It was a very sort of synthesizer heavy pop song. And you know to me was always a throw away like at the video. Poppy whatever and when he started doing it live more recently in the last ten fifteen years in his closing everyone in his shows with and i thought that the version that he was playing this more rock and roll guitar riff driven version of it was so awesome and i just kinda fell in love with his own again and then to your point you know that acoustic version as absolutely amazing and my my three sons all play different instruments and my oldest is baton player. After he didn't see the broadway show live but after it came out of netflix's he went his bedroom and he came out and said i just learned the acoustic dancing in the door and play at and it was just awesome. The songs from that night. By the way i always loved my hometown but the version on the is just magnificent. And we'll just for a moment. Have you got to hear the barack obama springsteen podcast yet. Not one obviously looking politic so little spoilers They talk about my hometown. And he says. Bruce says that's a good song in broncos. It's a great song. So i will not school anything else but they talk a little bit about it and it's just kind of sits on brock like no. It's a great song so please continue. I am absolutely looking forward to that. Podcast obviously the other song that night that that also just i was so happy here. It's probably not one of his more popular songs were. I don't know a lot of fans like this one. Really one of my favorite food songs and i don't know why honestly don't know why is tougher than the rest and when he sings that It's it's just really beautiful and I i i'm not saying this. Just because she is bruce's wife but her voice is just unbelievable. I mean as you is special. And she's just so cool and seeing you got together was great so yeah. I just had an absolute transact night. And like i said i've watched it again and again and again You know. I had seen it fairly early. So he had not yet added the talk about his mom having alzheimer's when he does the wish and when i saw that on net flicks you know that brought me to tears I've always loved the wish I've i've told the story before. Robert but i listen to it. You know on e street radio. And i'm crying and i pick up the phone to call my mom. 'cause i can still call my mom you know and i'm trying to explain to her. There's this song. And it's about bruce and his mother and my mom gets has no idea what i'm talking about. I mean she just like what what. What are you doing. What are you so i ended up like. Oh nothing. How are you doing mom. And we talked right and she was just this So yeah that was another highlight to me. You're right i sometimes when my soul needs a Refresh i will put on that show and just watch it again. It brings me happiness absolutely so some other shows and some others stand out some veggies really a lot of fine. I saw bruise at shea. Stadium mets stadium and I actually saw you talking. About how many shows you go. I think i saw most of the shows that he played at shea. Definitely at least three and one of them. I was on the floor and member. The state of the stage setup sorted in the outfield of stadium. So when you're on the floor it really your field now covered you wanna standing on the base paths. But i'm a diehard mets fan from queens really and you know being in shea stadium essentially on the field watching bruce was just an unbelievable moment and i vividly remember him playing. Katie's back and rosalita in one on the shows when we were dancing in the aisles and just really magical night so that was one another one. You mentioned my kids. So i've always seen broussard my oldest son. I really pray to god. That i could get there with my younger ones that you know. Get out of this brutal tour again and But when i took my oldest son he was unbelievable. A giant stadium Shore metlife metlife. Now it was really an unbelievable show. An unbelievable salads one song after the other was just amazing but the highlight Was that he played no surrender and highlight for two reasons number. One i just love no surrender. I think it's an amazing song. I happen to prefer the acoustic version from the live. Box said by I also love the album version. And that night he played the album version and the reason being because it is the song that i would seem to my boys as a low of i when they were babies i would sing. Essentially the acoustic version. While i was holding them and they were arresting has on my shoulder and so the fact that he played that. And my my son. He got like he knew and he He turned to me and he smiled. And it was a very special moment obviously to experience that with him and Especially since bruce. Play that song when it's what's funny is My son is is thirty. One now thirty two. He just thirty two in february. See when He went to his first show Lynn bruce was here at oklahoma city for the river. Tour and And chris was like okay. I'll go you know And i was like okay. You realize that. Sunday night and wrestlemainia is in jerry world. You know the death star. He's like yeah. I'd rather go hang with you dad. You know. I don't care about bruce. But i get. Let's i wanna go with you. So we went and I actually if anyone's interested it's in the my past feed I hit record in the car. A striving back from the show. You know that next morning driving home and He had a lot of thoughts with he gets excited to. He'll grab my arm and start punching me like look only. It's it's it's tougher than the rest are odious out in the street and so you just seeing them. Exciting of no surrender has a lot of special meaning to me because Almost four years ago will be coming up in march. It'll be four years I was diagnosed with colon cancer. And so i'm fine. Now everything's good but You know so You know treat no retreat. No surrender right. no retreat. No surrender of we're going to fight this and The funny story. That i tell is one of my good friends is not a bruce fan. And he's like why does chris. Jesse keep talking about no retreat. No surrender so he bought this claude van damme karate. Movie that is named no retreat. No surrender maybe jesse loves this movie by yeah not quite but hey i appreciate the dvd. That was funny that we thought of it. So yeah line. Real quick please. A cool moment was. I was actually at giants stadium the first time he played wrecking ball. Four giant say the only. We're going to tear down and that was a a really cool moment. Actually is funny because I think that at the time. He was also touring in support of. Maybe it was working on a dream. Aloen don't remember for sure. But yeah i would say one of my points. Rachelle was when he played outlaw. Pete which is a one against mistakes. He doesn't make an ally. But it's pretty bad song. But i also got you see the first rookie ball at night which was very cold and in the last thing that i can think of obviously so many great moments but just unique moments is that i was in a the barclay center in brooklyn that night of the rock and roll hall of fame induction ceremony for the east free band. I'll how cool. yes so. Bruce obviously was inducted way early on but they did a separate ducks in eastern band. And mazing night. I mean there were some real amazing moments. In addition to that of The artist formerly known as cat stevens. was also inducted. That night and there was a big question about whether he was going to perform because he basically know giving up on secular music. And you know kinda sad wasn't performing for sort of nonreligious purposes anymore. But she did and he played father and son and he played peace train I play wild harlan. Remember for sure By you know you're reminded. I mean to me. He was a genius in the merlin. Harry shave the same time and and and you know we was short. Period of time has stevens was just absolutely beautiful. So i'm going off on a tangent here off. Yeah so so seeing him that night. was was really really awesome and special and then of course bruce eastern band One thing i'll say about that night. That doesn't i am sure you know that you have the rock and roll hall of fame induction ceremonies were always replay like usually on. Hbo and what when we played on hbo g didn't realize was how darn long they went on. And i'm at night and bruce's induction speech debut leslie and that each member of the band including the meadow lopez including david sanchez. Who adopted in the band. Since the seventy s at each to a time to get up and give a speech. I mean it had to be an hour or an hour and a half that was dedicated just to them. I remember yet to me. It was great right here. Somebody said behind us of their buddy of mine and somebody sit behind us. Who is there to see really nevada. I it was also inducted that night. I i believe it was known. And after a forty five minutes they were just screaming like get. I'm not even sure. They knew with these dream band was being there for that. You know also just really a nice thing to be able to experience to joy. Oh i think so. That'd be great. You know I've shared this before. When i moved to dallas in eighty six and i've been here ever since so dallas has become home and so A few years ago they did Jerry jones in the cowboys built a new fabulous stadium. That you see all the time but that's okay so And you know they're gonna tear down texas stadium with the hall in a russo. God could see his favorite team. Play right. I mean this this whole lower and i'm like and they've broadcasting live and i'm like. Are they gonna play racquetball. I mean you got to play racquetball. We like what what. What are their song. I mean i realized it says we're giants play the game but no i mean you know. And they didn't and i was so disappointed. Like only i would you know or other springsteen fans would be thinking of know what. What's the other song that's a perfect song replay. May maybe dow's giants weren't same conference in. Maybe so you know. What's hilarious is Sand goldstein does a tour and I was there one of the knights of the the second half of the river tour where he did that. Three nightstand of metlife. You know where he did. And i was there for the second night and the next morning you know stands giving us a tour and he said and you're the only person this car will care but that's jason garrett parents house like oh very nice. Yeah yeah so. I think that was very funny Speaking of what did you. What did you think of western stars letter to you. So love and love. I really really thought that western stars From beginning to end was beautiful. Songwriting i. You know just famed you. Bruce goes off and does his little projects. You know there's something meaningful there. There's something he wants to say something. He wants to do that he you know. Presumably he can't get out of the east rebound and i really thought it was just beautiful music. Great letter to you is just a big favorite in my house. Right now My ten year old is a super into it and makes my wife play if the car when they're driving school together my wife. She likes it because she just has to listen. All his arm by I just think it's fantastic album. And i think that really captures everything. That's the best of east rebound which to me. The e street band is essentially the world's greatest bar band that's how they started and they continue to be. That and i think that album has that energy has feel. I think it's got a lot of miami stephen it's got a lot of that live just like straightforward rock and roll that he's really into perhaps not surprisingly. My favorite songs from the album are almost all the old ones back. you know. He he recorded for today. And what i love about. It is that even if he didn't tell you which ones they are. You can guess by the lyrics you can tell by. Songwriting style and If i were praised the best just well. Let me interrupt you robert. I said right when i first started about this If i was a priest is what you know outlaw. Pete wanted to be. It's a western saga and so You know and i I stand by that. I mean and Because i it's one of my favorite songs. I love that it's great really awesome song and it's too bad we didn't have it. You know thirty years ago. Maybe i don't know but it's a great song and obviously you know we're all dying to go back to a show. It's your local music. Just you know. I know you as a musician are dying to get back to a little club and you know just with your buddies. Play us. Play a few music. You know i thought of the story And this is probably not true. I'm exaggerating a little bit for you but way way back in the late seventies. they they were going to reboot the star trek franchise and so star trek. The motion picture was going to be filmed and they went to the local sand groups and said hey we have this huge spot that we're gonna show the whole crew. Do you think that members of the fan club were fans would want to be extras to be in to be the crew. And you know it'll it'll probably be five hundred dollars. I don't remember the exact figure and supposedly the fan was like well. That's kinda high but yes. I'm pretty sure most of us will pay that to be like no no no. That's what we're going to pay you to be an extra so i'm thinking you're like okay. I think we can pay one hundred bucks a person if you'll let us play again because we are so eager to play it's true i mean i i've been spoiled more than the fact that my oldest son is overseas right now but when he was here during a forty laughed. I got to jam with my kids all the time. And that's nice. There were so all the drummer agata tar player. My middle son is a bass player and my youngest players right. We've got a band. We don't have is a signal which is very unfortunate and it's hard but We started playing together more and more in picking songs that we would you know. Learn together so that we could jam on it and it was great stuff. It was it was really good. We're all kind of different levels of ability and my youngest still learning but we would just teach them a couple of chords to play background. Oh that's awesome. Yeah that's a great story. I love that So let's talk a little bit about what our songs or albums that mean a lot to you and your family. You know you've kind of mentioned already tougher than the rest but are there others that kind of hold a special place in your heart so you don't funny because it probably changes alive I mean there are certainly like a top five ish Definitely say a and this might sound a little cliche by yet just can't discount genius of guy said narrowed boards run. No matter how many times you hear it and no matter how overplayed it is is just a top five rock anthem of all time and i also think from that. Same outlook jungle land is just another one and again you know i i i. I'd probably you know and and revealing a lot about what draws me to bruce. These are songs that tell stories. These are just and An incident on fifty seventh street. These are songs that tell stories and imagery that you could be a novel one of my favorite authors and. This has nothing to do with tom. Jones but i love john steinbeck. Bruce does too. I think that when steinbeck writes about is a lot of what bruce writes about sort of each dish and americans and the american condition and what it means to be a man and what it means to be a husband and father And just as an equality and you know a lot of bruce's songs speak to me on now level for sure other songs that are very popular around my house doubtedly badlands. You know just another sort of anthem after that. You know those are just sort of some top. It just changes a lot and has what you're in the mood to listen to. And sometimes you want the acoustic broadway show and sometimes you wanna rock out. But it's funny because about you know six or nine months ago sometime. During the pandemic we decided to sit down as a family and rank. Our top fifty roussel's all very fun at it was so much fun and my medal sign. You know came up with this method. I mean not that. He's the original person doing their for this method of how you rank things You know going down the list of making hash marks of which one is better than the rest by the time you're doing whatever gets the most hash marks is the waiter and I'll tell you. Because i have it. I'm gonna tell you what our top tag is real quick. This was the sort of family top ten which is a lot of fun. I don't know if you'll be my top ten today. I would always agree with that but it was. It was solar phone putting together kind of having debates about it. Pull it up. Sorry so while you're looking. I don't know if you saw this but it was a few years ago on literary hub September two thousand six. it was a parody account. The said that bruce as a rider and like In the like everything that dies someday comes. Back is a collection of short stories There is a whole parody account of that he if he had been a rider what the songs would be believe. Western stars is very much. Like an elmore leonard from justified and everything that it's a collection of they could just as easily be source for him. Sorry i while you've got your notes. No that's okay. that's okay. So i i mentioned the verse. Four out of every getting these huge surprises rosalita fourth of july asbury park which is another one. I absolutely love Promised land spirit in a the river. Euphrates out streets. It goes on from there chewing surprises on here. You know some of the stuff that. I curious to hear your thoughts. What are some of the songs that you love that you think are not sort of like the ones that most fans would pay like kind of the lost classics if you were so you know like all of us. I'm going to ask you this question a little bit. What songs you've love to hear live When people ask me. Who's your favorite. What's your favorite. Bruce springsteen song You know and i joked Number one is land dreams. I just adore that song Two is better days and the reason. Why is because. I believe better days is telling the story that is my philosophy of life that Enjoy the journey that too. Many people wait and go. Well when i get the kids out of diaper then on joy being a dad. Or when i get out of grad school then i'm enjoy life and then well when i make enough money to do this then i'm going to enjoy versus enjoying the journey as you're going and these are better days and then i always joke. The third changes every day right You know we have a have one of my good friends sam We always make fun with love in our hearts. The people that are on east radio. They pick like thunder road and like you have five songs to pick. You know to tell you earn unique. Everyone loves thunder road rightly like everyone loves born to ride You know so. Here's your chance to pick a little bit others But i am like you. Sam would say. I don't want to hear born to run live again. I'd rather another track and i'm like. Yeah but if it's every show is someone's first show. And if you go to see bruce springsteen perform live for the first time. How disappointed aren't you. If you don't get to hear born to run and scream you know. Yeah so you know you get three hours plus get more run. You're gonna get a couple of surprises You know. I love like you a lot of You know lion stan from tracks You know i'd love the wish was on my wishlist till broadway and then like okay. I've seen that You know i. I've never heard Highway patrolman i you know i would love to hear that. Live and so this is Listeners you know the story so skip ahead thirty seconds. don't wanna hear it again i just love. This is your sword from high hopes of love that the biblical aspect of it. The idea of you know this is your faith and this is the power of love revealed and it was on my list. I want to hear this live so bad. so bad. and so two thousand fourteen. He's playing in the houston. It's an outdoor kind of one of those you know there's seats at the beginning and then one at the annual amphitheater and He comes out. And they open. What i didn't i found it afterwards. Is they were going to open with. This is your sword. That was on the set list and as they were walking out. Tom morello god love him. Said hey this is houston we should do. Seeds in verse goes. Yeah so they scratch through. This is your sort and they opened with seeds which would not be horrible but when he did working on the dream in houston he opened with seeds. Because it was like bruce so seven years later. I'm still a little bitter. Like i want to hear that song. So how about you. What are songs that you might be chasing too. I i actually thought about this in the past. Not just sponsor your question. I've gone to his in my head. And i'll be very honest. I got hurt everything. I want here at one point with that. I think that there are some songs from tracks that i always wanted to hear eventually did one of my favorite songs from tracks and i can't tell you why except that it puts a bug in my ear is loose ends as love. That song Jadon evenings heart And these are all songs. I mentally to here So don't lose heart. And i want to be with you. You're really. i think. I heard what i wanted to hear. One song that. I happen to love. And i i'll be honest. I don't remember now did is i'll work for your love. Which is a song that you know it opens. It is beautiful piano part and then this opening wearing that. I'm gonna come back to my theme of poetry. he says. pour me a drink. Maria with one of those glasses you dust off. And i'll watch the bones of your back meeting stations of the cross and i picture him sitting at a bar You know somewhere on the road and the bartender and she turns to dust off of glass and classic scene. You'd see out of a movie and the bones in her back stations of the cross and I don't know i there's an imagery there that captures my imagination. I would love to hear that song. I got to your girls close once and would have liked to heard that moore. I i absolutely love to hear I work for your love what others want for free. You know i'll work for. Your love is just i agree. That's amazing. that's really better more recent albums truly. Is i think until to me until letter to you i. It was the best in a long time listener. You have to me the answer. Your question is i just wanna see him. Why again absolutely of you remember. But the way you and i first connected. He's because i. I wrote an article i ultimately might have on twitter of you know sort of my boss in two thousand twenty about what was going on in america and what bruce springsteen's music and what i thought he soon for your kind of sad about that and i believe it is much. Today's did then and right at the end. I'd say that you know what we all need for. America you know sort of coming together and nobody comes together and nobody brings people together. Like bruce show because you know all divisions and all politics bruce show. I know that there's people would vehemently disagree with You know on politics and social issues and whatever and they'll probably disagree with bruce side no one of the funny things about booze fans. How many of them. I don't fully appreciate what he's trying to saying. But s story But but getting back to a show being together screaming wollo to you know warned iran or humming along to badlands or singing out in the street. And and you know belting all of those out together again. That's what i look forward to. I really to be able to take my kids. I really hope. I get the chance. And i just want to. I want to be in the crowd. Again as bruce saint about our the proud. Yeah you know it is I just recently I talked to catherine a few weeks ago and her episode just came out like last week or so and she is a huge leonard cohen fan and we talked about his music and she said she said what they have in. Common is Their most famous song are both misunderstood alleluia. It's for instance born in the usa. And i i said. I was just going ask you that because The night before the inaugural You know there's that they did that televised tribute to all the people. We've lost the covid in someone saying you know a beautiful version of all leah and my wife looks suffering goes. Is this really the right song. The a memorial right. And you know it can't there was like yeah and i said you know and people when trump was in the hospital were blaring out born in the usa. They don't get it. Yeah that's a lot of what i wrote about in that piece that i put you might but you know what i think that bruce really stands for and what i tried to convey is that you know we all know grew says in more recent years and in more recent elections. He's kinda stayed down and political position. You obviously rene's you know left and that's fine. You know agree or disagree with him but but what is so special to me about rooms and you asked right at the beginning. Went wrong as you to him. His ability to sort of you know see it from all sides to to sing about and for everybody and i think at the end of the day what he cares about in what he says about is that humans be treated with respect. He treated fairly and whether he's singing about the factory worker or he's singing a of immigrant or whether he singing about the the wife who lost somebody in nine eleven Really whatever it is His empathy is unbelievable his -bility to see the world through other people's eyes anywhere in the world. Any political persuaded. He's not singing bat. You know there are artists who are seeing about very left leaning more writing things. He's just singing about fairness and treating people with respect and self respect. I think and i don't know how you feel and please feel free to speak up but I think a sign of how divided of a nation we are is the very wild diverse reactions to bruce's jeep commercial. Where he's talking about middle ground. And i had free and i did a quick episode. I have people that are very much on the left that go we. There are no middle ground. Going to the middle is how we stop progress. And you know that. I'm not going to embrace people that have hate in their heart and other people like Oh yeah now. Then bruce calling for you know middle ground you know when he's been talking bad about this administration and all these years and then the people this is. The very land is stolen from us in this all this fractured and i honestly think i want to hear what you say robert. But you just talked about We feel like his music always said a conversation audience and also the divide between the american dream and the american reality and i truly think this was a message he cared about. Was you know. Can we find a way to find a way to move forward and work on the things. We all agree that need to be worked on. Yeah so look at the first thing i'll say is there's one thing i love about the g. Commercial which fact bruce lending his voice and music to sell a car but beyond that and that was one debate about it. But that that's staff kind of silly. Look we are so fractured as a country. That even talking about finding middle ground creates this friction of no. We shouldn't even try to find middle ground right. That's the problem and know. I understand that sometimes when people talk about finding around the people who are very far leaning one way or the other healing. They're ba confined it. And they're being criticized someone saying they're wrong and you know we look to our heroes whether they're musicians or athletes or other artists and actors and we pick them on at certain pedestal and we want them to reflect what we believe and then they don't know crazy because we can't believe they're they're trying us. I think they're trying us. And i think that you know bruce speaking out more and kind of you know taking a site which let's face it he did You know it turned off a lot of people seeing him as the flag-waving born in the usa misunderstood lyrics guy. what they don't understand is not that he's a wild liberal but that the day he really is a dow there is something that unites us. All gotta find that. And that's always what he has talked about. He's always what he is something about. And i think the reason people get offended by that is because again we've come so far in one direction or the other that when you talk about an ground people feel you're attacking them and i don't think that's bruce was doing all. I think being honest about the status of the country but he was really also just saying what happened with trump and the status of the country's so extreme. We gotta get back to a middle and people. People don't want to appreciate that and that well said well says her art. If kept you already over an hour. I thank you so much i can do. What have i not asked you that. I should've robert. I don't know that there's anything really you know i would just say that A plug bruce. For all these years we talked about and You know some time ago. My mother-in-law of to me you know your your love for bruce is not just about the music. There's something they are. And that was the first time that i really thought about it and realized that there is and i think it's it's it's the things we've talked about the message and the the poetry of and really just just. The last we talked about it he stands for. You know sort of everything that's right and he's a little bit of a boost a magician as he would say in terms of you know portraying a certain persona. There's a lot of authenticity there. He really is sort of who we all think he is. The story he tells them the broadway show about you. Know mr borg. Toronto mr mccaren drive away and now i tend to throw where i grew up in new jersey That tells you so much now. So i'm gonna avenue asked me i think that You know he really is something. Special is sort of an american hero to be not just a musical hero. And i'm glad to hear the union many people out there who meet with you this to you you same way. It's it's good to now. We got a good to talk to you and meeting friends out there who feel the same way absolutely all right so before i let you go gotta ask you the mary question. So let's say you're a friend of roberts and you're listening to this and you've never listened to an episode of the podcast before the american is very simple. J armstrong is an honors. English teacher just recently retired from the philadelphia area and he takes his high school seniors in. They take two days and they break apart. Thunder road lyric by lyric. I by verse imagery discussion and they compared to robert frost. The road not taken and other than at the end of today's he looks at his class and he says mary get in the car at the end of thunder road so robert. That is your question. Does mary get in the car. Boy she doesn't she's really stupid. The answer is an unequivocal yes. Mary gets into car. The here's what i'll tell you. When bruce talks about a he give the river tour. Mitch talked about when he does that tour and he talks about the river. He talks about that. Whole album is about growing up. And it'll be the soling rowing by it's about becoming an adult and what comes with adulthood and marriage and children and johns and moss of jobs and that's a very you know sort of more insure endorphin album. Compared to the break free from know young stud breaking free and born to run and thunder road. And i think that you know. That's what happens to marry right. Mary gets into the car. she's young. She gets in and they take off but then they start facing reality and the reality is what comes next. It's what happens in darkness on the edge of town and it's very much what happens in the river and you know sometimes your dreams. Just don't really come true. It's not what you expected to be. And there's all those things all those themes in the river you know especially the song river but really on that whole album. So i think she gets in a car. It's part of our lives that we all feel like we can get him in car. You take off and and and the world is always starred in reality sets in later on and sometimes you know fortunate in reality is great and for some other people they struggle. But that's my long winded answer. I love that answer. That's a great answer Robert any ought you wanna share again. Only that this was such a pleasure really talking to you and a forward to hearing your other guests and following because a over community. I'll thank you. That's very kind of you. How about a are you on. Social media i am. I am on twitter on facebook sort of good at it then using monte kind of follow what other people doing what's going on and are so good i've got at robert hof nineteen seventy-three is your twitter handle makes that's the one good all right so Thank you sir. This has been wonderful. I i've enjoyed talking to you. I like you figure we could keep talking another two or three days So much less to do who knows. We'll have you come back again. That'd be great. You stay safe. Remember to wash your hands. Remember to social distance wearing a mask. And let's all be good to each other because that's the only way we're going to get through this and now thank you goodbye. We'll talk to you soon. Doing a podcast at times can be a one way conversation. And i hate that so please let me know what you like. And don't like about the work. I'm doing you can reach the podcasts via email at settling bruce gmail.com. The show is on twitter at settling. 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AFL Round One 2021 Has Been Announced

Lace Out AFL Podcast

04:19 min | 4 months ago

AFL Round One 2021 Has Been Announced

"Here and i have not the afl released the round one schedule for twenty twenty one and we've got all the news and win the begins again a. b. and the talking so you can. Who can you hold is booking your leave booking pass evian need to do to get to the game to key cough. I f fell live in two thousand and twenty one and we know the first guy is going to be on thursday. March the eighth traditional of round one richmond versus cotton. Em seven twenty seven off the there would be nothing better than the dog is being able to unveil their flag in front of their supporters for the first time. 'cause they weren't able to do that the she in round one. Twenty twenty twenty twenty one get to the m. c. j. c. the flag and oil hope and his cotton turn up zach. Williams is gonna be de side's gonna be the heartedly they're going to get some running kerry horses. They're going to be able to hit the scoreboard and hopefully they're going to be able to make a close game of because recently haven't turned up around one just a little bit different crowd. I watch the north calling with versus the western bulldogs. When this one was originally put pen to pipe you probably would have thought not really interested in this. Well since the trade. Tom where adam trillo and the messiness between collingwood and we moved over to the western bulldogs. These kwabena absolute bounced on the first five minutes of these guys could include plenty of nickel and plenty of pushing shops. I be wanting to strap yourself in for that one. That's also going to be the g. Seven fifty pm set die match. Twenty four cracking games melbourne fremantle big ben brown full for for the days hopefully straightening them up. Fremantle are to be making a trip over to the as at the mci j. One forty five pm. That could be a bit of a sneaky. One being absolute coca. We die which retains again at not the coupons or the bed onset march twenty at allied versus along at the allied. I will floor. Oh five pm hopefully can have. I betta stopped the season and finished off twenty twenty not badly but the to be up against you. Long in the three amigos higgins of his ex maith and also big jeremy camera remaking the for the hoops. That's going to be a delightful four five pm. It's versus hawthorn. You could say the biggest rivalry between two clubs since the eighties is going to be at mabul stadium. Seven twenty five pm. That he's gonna be wanna be looking out for and brisbane versus seeding some pretty games over the last number of years. They're going to be kicking it off. North versus south queensland versus new south wales state of origin. Afl stall at the gabba. Six forty five pm last but not least sunday march twenty three games. Three pretty good games if i may i. It's got to be north a brain coach. I've multitude of brand new plies vs port adelaide. Going down tomorrow stadium. That's going to be a one ten pm afternoon. Game the gw of great and cd versus and killed they brought in some big names are over. The preseason higgins is going to be. The crash is going to be. This one's gotta be up at joint stadium so hopefully. Gw is going to get off the good stop. And i'll tell you what sin killed diana looking full in twenty twenty one and to round off the weight. Gain is gonna be immoral as maybe the. Mikey besides melvin fremantle. It's going to be west. Coast versus gold. Coast the game of the ghosts. The coast is met. Row will be back. He's gonna be like a brand new draft. The had an absolute ripping starts of the season. Unfortunately shoulder injury put him out. Hopefully he gets through the preseason unscathed and his young to lead that gulf coast into battle against the west coast in potentially in front of fifty thousand over there in perth. And that's a three afternoon game so they guy ladies and gentlemen. There's around one knowing games. Four days one round of people. And if you're like me you don't wanna be they law because let's be honest that's how forty that's hail once your foodi. You want your alive and you want your forty lisette. We'll as soon have a great christmas in stay tuned for more lights out over holiday break.

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195.5: Musician Steve Ferrone (Archive Re-Release)

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1:16:08 hr | 4 months ago

195.5: Musician Steve Ferrone (Archive Re-Release)

"Kozlov soccer stadium in washington. Dc the house. Both the washington diplomats. Rotten you by budweiser beer. When you say budweiser set at all by the volkswagen porsche and audi dealer organization in new york new jersey and connecticut nearby independent gulf dealer carries groups mass tires. Batteries had incentives. All your on by your local neighborhood dot welcome to good seats still available a curious little podcast devoted to exploring what used to be in professional sports. Here's your host. Tim hamlett all right. Let's do this. Everybody how are you. What's new and what's going on. My name is tim. Handling and this is good seats still available. Are curious little podcast that is devoted to what used to be in professional sports. Thank you tremendously for finding ascend downloading us putting us in your earbuds. Doing whatever you do to ingest this crazy little genre that we like to sort of focus on that that being teams and leagues no longer with us Defunct previously domiciled. Whatever and most of you longtime listeners know perhaps the Seminal reason for why. I've been doing this for almost three years now. Kind of got born from my childhood memories of a of a tremendously successful and perhaps even know it sort of really at the time. dynamic soccer franchise known as the new york cosmos in the late seventies and early nineteen eighties. They played a giant stadium in beautiful downtown Down in the swampy marshes there. The meadowlands in east rutherford new jersey Right next door to is now the relatively new Metlife stadium built now in the shadows of the old giant stadium but for a number of years. Some of the largest crowds were not for new york football giants games or even new york jets games for that matter but that of the new york cosmos and we love to sort of offer sort of these little bonus episodes in our deeper and perhaps No stone unturned exploration into that of of the cosmos and the legacy of that team and this week is a very special endeavour towards that and we get into a fun filled session both musically and memorably around sports and the cosmos In particular with our special guests. This week steve perron The longtime drummer for I just a monstrosity of a phenomenal acts Over the years the average white band of course during the years during the year cosmo's existence and we're gonna get into that and the cosmos theme that you heard at the beginning at the outset. That's jim karvellas that you heard Doing a promo an intro. For an early season. I think it was april eighth. Nineteen seventy-nine away game against the washington diplomats at Yeah the cosmos theme produced created performed by steve barron and his bandmates at the time of the average white band. Who were quite the thing in the mid to late. Nineteen seventy s on the atlantic records label. And that's part of the story that we're going to get into a steve. His memories the composition of that that That theme song. I mean talk about a legacy in music. I mean steve not only was in the average white band but went on to become the the drummer. Four i was maybe fifteen twenty years with tom. Petty and the heartbreakers as the years rolled on. It was just an amazing studio musician. Session guy For a literal. Who's who of songs and albums From from some of pop music's as a pop music says short pop music's greatest names hall of famers. An all shock akon and durant iran's scrutiny polity the bg's anita baker. George benson whitney houston Bryan ferry a patent athenee. Steve winwood i mean. It goes on jeffrey osborne and paul simon. I just goes on and on and on and it you know there's probably nobody in the professional music scene that steve has not played with or is not playing with now as he continues to roll on in a many decades long career and a lot of it sort of got. Its fuse lit when he was with the average white band in the mid to late nineteen seventies and that is when he and his bandmates hamish stuart and Us this sort of the classic version of the ban on a mcintyre alan gory part of that mixture when the average white band arguably the house band for this team called the new york cosmos and the theme song for that team. And we're gonna get into that. With with steve. Talk about sort of how all these things is. Cosmic things if you will came together and atlantic records and warner communications which owned the team and the label that the average white band was on the number one single and album that they had and all that kind of stuff. We're gonna talk about all of that stuff amid word again initially hurt again and steve ross and all the great sort of a sort of things that sort of came together at sort of made that sort of happened. I think you'll find it fascinating. And as i did with our guest this week steve perron or it's a for oni. We'll talk about that. And the second to in our chat coming up in just a couple of it's fun it's a great excuse to talk music and And steve is a wonderful cat. We look forward to sharing that chat with you in just a few moments. Let's get a couple of commercial things out of the way. I however and perhaps If you'd like to celebrate the new york cosmos Soccer team this week by all means why not try out two of our great sponsors and perhaps getting a few items or Garb where or whatever it is By all means check them out at sports history. Collectibles dot com. That's one of them. Our friend dean mitchell in san diego and if you want to find some great memorabilia of the cosmos and the old north american soccer league in which they played check him out sports history collectibles dot com and use the promo code. Good seats and you're going to get fifteen percent off all of your purchases there. You're gonna find a lot of fun great. Asl soccer stuff and a lot of great cosmos. Stuff too i. The there's programs in penance and media guides and buttons and stickers and all kinds of things a it's a i sent a kinder gentler and more well lit a form of of trade at ebay if you will and it's all devoted to great sports memories of teams and leagues of of of the past across a whole wide array of sports. Not just soccer. But yeah you will find a great bunch of soccer stuff. Nsl stuff american soccer league stuff. Certainly cosmos stuff at sports history. Collectibles dot com. Make sure you use the promo code good seats and you will get fifteen percent all of your purchases when you do so. And if you're a big fan of the cosmos and the north american soccer league while there's no better place frankly To get Shirts that to commemorate all those great teams in bio boy. There were dozens of them. Were there at our friends at streaker. Sports dot com. They call themselves to purveyor of sports culture and Streaker sports dot com. Just go into the defunct league section. They've got a whole bunch of other things too and you'll find a whole bunch of other defunct leagues besides the old nfl but the nfl section. And you're gonna find you'll see all the great teams i think just about all of them. that That sort of pranced across your television set or the green or sometimes patchy brownfields of the north american soccer league and they're just dozens and dozens of shirts commemorating those great teams from the north american soccer league again. Streaker sports dot com. Of course we have a promo code for you there too and that is good seats. Yep good seats. That's the promo code at streaker sports dot com and you're going to get ten percent off all of your purchases there again that streaker sports dot com promo code. Good seats we thank them. And and of course Our friend deena sports history collectibles dot com and all of our great sponsors. That's perhaps the best way to show your love and support for our show by making a purchase there. Of course we get a little bit of a little bit of love when you do so Early and often we appreciate your doing so and of course we appreciate your continuing to listen to our fun chat with the great. The legendary musician and drummer. Extraordinaire steve perron. And here's our chat. We had just Just before the holidays please enjoy so first of all. Thank you for for for take time. So let me ask you this question. Steve because maybe we can start just with the name right. Because i heard you on the don cromwell podcast. A couple of weeks back is it. Steve steve yes votes but most people what do you want to be called and had it how. Why is there any confusion in the first place. It's a long story. It really is them story. Like when i was when i was gone it was actually efi and i. They put on the bus the only reason that they use that night until was because when i came out i didn't look like i was black. I looked like i was so they decided that they were. This woman have been deceived the midwife into see a movie this guy who could never remember his name and his name was driving she said. Why don't we call him. Tony for no They named tony when i took my parents so stupid. Black kids in tally name so well. My mother did so so they changed the i to e. pronounced but all my friends just call me around the anyways i when when people when people read it they say they say for them if they asked me my name. Say my name for on. I don't understand it. Say what. So if i say they get it right away. I answer to you but but you don't answer the tony. No no. that's my middle name pumping that makes perfect sense. I think i think even most die hard music fan probably does even know where understand all that story but it sounds like it. It's not easy to say. I was born in nineteen fifty. My mother was white and my father was black. And i was illegitimate. That's all you gotta do. This only got to figure out is It wasn't that easy in nineteen sixty. It wasn't that easy now. That really mean too much but back then it was a scandal. You've got pregnant and you were married my mother. My mother got pregnant by a black nine and she wasn't married so that caused a bit of a scuffle. Dry stuff tons of wacky. Well it doesn't it doesn't seem to have a scarred you too much as you went on your career arguably it may be set the tone before what became a very creative and musical career so as you know this little show is focused on teams and leagues and sports that have come and gone right and the cosmos was certainly something that That's why i reached out to you originally and before we get to that part of the story. That's really what. I going to focus because lord knows we could spend hours which i know you wouldn't want to do about your career in music because it's just it's ridiculously long and amazing. Just even get into but for this part of the story right a lot of you in the cosmos right was was centered around this thing called the average white band. Maybe a little bit of background as to how you got to that band in the mid seventies ranged with the original drama would vote probably macintosh. We've been trenches. I was about seventeen years old and we've made the digitally and And then i followed him into a couple of different bands and He started saudi pavement despite average white band. And i've been to see maybe pay. No really good. Poet enjoys them and then You know we'll we all sort of came up listening to the same sort of the same sort of music music american music. We will very very much into that. Anyway yeah we would just be possibly of a of a drug a drug with those and I i was staying with the banco blood. Sonos do the movie with bad this michael gladstone and sure rb group. That's what i yeah. They did the movie. And i was working on moving. And i you know. I said to the guys i said you know. I'm sure we'll be one of the guys. Want to keep going. Keep going because it just doesn't some success you know and i will go play some gigs with them. And if i could gig stick soup of crusaders would go through the so both six trying to help them. Keep going and And then finally one day. I was saying they kicked them down at long beach. Long beach. arena the old long beach arena and after the show this little guy came up to me and say you got to be in the mind. And i said well it's not to be but you know i'm under contract to the stone age it you're out of that contract not bridge wiedeman to the back and they said oh. That's that's the other and i'm convinced the chairman of the. He knew what he was talking about that in average weather well. So that's i mean that's a man. Yeah i'm an artist is obviously a very big part of this cosmos story in a second. But let's put it in context right you're coming in. You're invited volunteered to be part of this band at. You're you're being charitable because this is when a wbz was literally on the cusp of. I mean they had. They basically had a number one smash hit in the united states. Pick up the pieces. I mean you literally and figuratively. We're helping coming up and helping pick up the pieces for this band. Absolutely gets out six. I six super myself. We we we both. We both contributed. That was one of the reasons that we thought that they should keep going. I really on the edge. Having this break breaking distract It and it didn't seek night. They should you know seem kind of disrespectful to rugby. Say even think about that point even though everybody was terribly terribly effective by By semis like that. This is something that book we get off of this sort of point of it. I mean i guess as a as a drummer as now a key and integral part of the band how does how do you fit in so quickly where you're supporting album a hit single and maybe even another hit single that arguably you really. You weren't part of in the studio. So how does the band react to you. And how do you react to them. What's the vibe is. You're on the road to support this album that you were really not part of creating. You know what i mean. Let me let me put it this way we. We weren't while so. This is going on the bamboo to find the drum. And i already a job. I mean i joke. I wasn't really looking to join events. I really truly enjoy playing with the band. I'm like i said we all came up listening to the same the same isic. We had a really big background in our and be listening to motown going out dancing in absolutely were younger. Listen to my mobbing guy. Is you know the older motown over the mountain acts We would like huge fans of that so music of this reading and then you know then to stack stuff and We we were very much into the same kind of music and so for me to sit in and play with. The ban really wasn't difficult to rugby and night. We were huge fans of each other strumming. We were good friends. Dementia a couple of bands. I wasn't that. I sat down. And and i think about you know being macintosh to join the band was a waste myself styles very different but very compatible because we liked the same sort of music we had the same. Focus the ed so it was a relatively smooth transition albeit for obviously the emotional toll and the just the the tragic circumstances for sure absolutely. I mean we were really affected by roby's by roby rubbing passing. I mean we. You know we've known we were friends. We knew each other real. I was mainly close mission and with with robby robby. I knew. I known years before average white band. Alex richard for the ended up seeing santana. He he used to play in a band. Called the senate i initially and and We used to stay in the same hotel Together man guitarist some my band and then there was probably an well. We used to do listen to music and drink cheap wine. That was about it you know and and go and see people go to clubs and and You know we were very very very close. So most of the most of the fans that i've been in You know even down to the heartbreakers. I noticed that there was a when i once i got to know you know. Tell them mike and talk to them about. We were the same age Born in nineteen fifty and one of the guilt about the music that we're listening if we will listen to back when we were teenagers leased to listen to a lot of the same music you know. So that kinda made it an easy transition for me to get into the Into the heartbreakers. We'll talk to me about at arctic in them because you referenced him earlier obviously give audience a sense of who. This guy was right because not only did have an ear but he was he was transcended. I think in terms of music at atlantic records and hurts with you for sure. Yeah i mean he and his brother nationally of the they started off as being like jazz fans knew that was sons of diplomats a turkish diplomats. And they were they were. They were huge jazz. Fans they go around and listen to these people Making this music making jazz. And and then i decided well this this record this stuff it's You know they they. Will you know wealthy guys from a wealthy background and They add some privileging that they wanted to start recording this music and they took an interest in the music. They were very much from the music. They didn't come into the business to make money. That was just by the side of it that came into really the you know the had fun writing numerous amount of money at the same time it was it was it was the perfect accident you know and they surrounded themselves. They surrounded themselves with with like minded people such as Jerry wexler tom. Down i monitoring some of the guys that have produced some of the most classic music. I i was i was a i was at a a video. Shoot the other day and it was sort of background a backup movie to the not the snake bit. What was the movie that they made about the los angeles musicians. The wrecking crew sure. Yeah so they to chose and so it was like they're doing a follow up to the wrecking crew. And i said to the guy. Well you're gonna do movie about about the The the the east coast east coast memphis guys. I mean it was like the the the amount of the came out of out of the new york in the music music musicians. It was absolutely phenomenal. We're talking about a different sort of. It's a different world out there now with the musically you know things it seems it's all about like the bean counters go about business and they and they kind of forgot where it came from. You know it was. It was meant to be like and and and and music explained to me. Then what what the vibe and the scene at of atlantic records in nineteen seventy four. Seventy five seventy six the middle seventies with the urban brothers. You're mentioning arafat martin. H just had to be a proverbial once in a lifetime but but kind of a unique situation. What that that vibe was like. Not only the band but also just atlantic records generally. It was fantastic. It was you know it was it was it was creative. Everybody had the space the time To to create to to see what they they could come up with to to even go in different different directions and the more we going in before it was an amazing amazing amazing experience to be that you know somebody. There were so many good friends. They called it the atlantic family and still today online as a group of a group of people that were employed the former boyzone. You're talking about a and presidents vice president's own still connected online still talking to each other and show up at the other's funerals musicians. It was very much a family. You know everybody really love their job. I don't know that samantha. That surround anymore. I used to i. I remember. i remember once. Going in and doing a in in capitol encompass records and in in Capital studios in in los angeles and i was downstairs and the guy upstairs in conference for capitol records that i was downstairs and came down in introduced himself and say. Please come up with meets. The people in the office went up to their office and walked around there instead. They introduced me to be voting and loaded me up with. You should listen to this album and album. They gave me like a whole bunch of albums and and It was really nice to meet them. And and i had nothing to do with that with that with that. With that label. Everybody was sort of in the music business. Together we will. Everybody loves music. And on their life on their label it was. It was just a question of like You know sort of like earned your stripes and and they want me to meet you wanted to know you wanted to know about you and therefore that's when you know great. Collaboration started typing when people say what can you play. When this person's album great music was might how much of that was. Atlantic records specifically or how much of that was just being in the music industry in its hay hay day and i believe that the music industry was was was was pretty much. Like i mean you know i go to cool ones from her belt. Put any honestly if i could come out to los angeles and then i said to work on says no. No no just come out with like to meet you for a second. you know. So he flew me out from los angeles and win and met him and we went and had lunch with it he just wanted to meet. Meet me some reason. I guess the some music about music played on talking about as music and and that was about it. You know that i. I don't see that happening now. In record companies don't see that interaction between musicians musicians and and and record companies. Well let's also put in perspective for our audience right. I mean you're not just any sort of run of the mill drummer right. You're playing in one of the hottest bands in the mid seventies with the average white band. I mean you're you're playing on on amazing debut albums like chaka khan's album and seventy i mean you have a distinct style and and you're making a more than a name for yourself. A number of different fronts whether it's atlantic records or otherwise right so but but it does speak to think that seventies sort of mid seventies kind of creativity that to your point earlier is is just completely sucked out of the industry these days but i atlantic it was somewhat unique in in the extremes by which it supported that creativity. Is that a fair statement away. i'd say atlantic records was was a vanguard in that in that area because the just because of the state that they signed. I mean when you think of it you know the rolling stones fern Average white band. Bg's i mean you know what they call wea warner elektra. Atlantic was was a powerhouse. Hey shake it had all these different from our and being you aretha. Franklin led zeppelin. You know i mean come on one label think about it. What label. frankly. I led zeppelin. I mean now it does right now. They sort of. They put themselves in these little pockets. We do we do indie rock or we do rap. We do you know there's nobody does that kind of kind of of signings now that the sprints did just loves great music no good music not even talking good music. You're talking about great music back. Frankly that's just that's not. And then he got throw the rolling stones some average white band the oj's You know i mean foreign Hey you know. I spent his. You know i mean it's it's it's all still i'm still have a label that produces music from john coltrane. Miles davis mccoy. Tyner max roach blakey all the great jazz artists one label. I mean not good. Incredible and still still stands the test of time. Sure that you know at the time has special. That was honestly no no. It's not gonna pay more attention to it. you know. it's like a. I went to see when i was a little kid. When i first started playing. I started playing with kids that are eighteen years old and i was thirteen and and these kids were like into the blues and they took me to see these blues blues tours with sonny terry and brownie mcghee and and Lightning hopkins in did lee and I mean just generally hookah or the great blues artists on one tour. I go and see that and enjoyed it. But i didn't realize what it was. I was watching until now. I've been anything man. I i should have paid more attention to that. When i see those guys like standing in front of me so they think these things you don't really realize that when you're in person so hendrix when i was a kid playing brighton. It's like paid more attention to that. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I had a great time doing it. But i should have paid attention an amazing time that you were there at atlantic and with the erdogan's but okay so but let's also put this in context atlantic records or we warner elektra asylum. Right is also a part of this relatively newly formed conglomerate called warner communications owned by a very interesting guy by the name of steve ross. And all kinds of stuff go on. What's your exposure to the rest of the company. And and steve rawson particular either through the americans or just generally. Well you know. I mean i my my days of mainly with steve. I was know and we'd still the same around. He's halo like hi guys. How're you doing that. And then you know when the cosmos things started being as we from england and we were. We were football stopped back then That we started to go on sundays. You know we could go out and see this these guys in that some great players out there. You know Pele and beckham ballots name but to the with the that were out there playing great great football and We could go and see this really enjoy ourselves. Yeah so so. So i'd say steve russ he had seven know it's funny. He used to be up in the in the in the middle tier like just we always used to be down on the ground and and he was up on this middle tier and he had a special belt made what he would put round his waist and put over the over the railing in government. Casey got too excited pet over the railing that he would that he wouldn't fall all the way down into the crowd of his funniest thing. He's had this special belt on out there. But what she yes i. I've read a lot about steve ross. I've met his son a couple of times and mark and indeed. I mean he was beyond passionate about that. That cosmo soccer team. I think it's partially in many respects like a lot of people who wanted to get an nfl franchise. American football was not able to do any saw soccer as sort of his sort of next best opportunity to be a a pro sports baron and it was every that stadium was cut every sunday. It was just jam-packed sold out. I was having problems trying to figure out why was more of a i. I don't know anything about the business side of it. But i was i was it was onto belated. Hey you know. This is taking a really really strong strong grip on on air new york. Anyway you know i. Everybody was like the south. Americans hispanics english scottish. Germans italians the mishmash that you got there in new york. Everybody wanted to go and see the cosmos and it was just fantastic. It was offensive especially when we go out some. Let's get to that. But just to remind our audience or even to introduce the concept to our audience that i think people forget in in the mid to late seventies new york was an interesting place to be on a number of different levels. But but these cosmo's games were cultural phenomenon right. I mean not only were were were star musicians like you guys in the stands but but it was the cause celeb- for everybody from andy warhol to paul knew the rolling stones the dresser incredible assortment of of stars and it was almost like studio fifty four west for a period of time while playing soccer as well. It was amazing. A- absolutely and i it was great i mean and they had like i remember the. The italian team came over and or the french king. French came over and And played because moss and so that was like a Having such kuzma politics city like new york. Anyway you know sort of everybody will come and see their plays and and having such a international team like the cosmos with english briars south america brazilian argentinean italian players. giorgio audio You know i. It was just wonderful to everybody. Went to see that it was like it was like it was just like this this world cup team with all the players over these all these great players from from from from around the world and everybody went to see these people play together. It was wonderful uniting trading. Yeah and and talk about not necessarily appreciating it at the at the moment. I mean that as a kid growing up watching those games right you know. Only in hindsight derecognised just how cosmic if you will that that array of talent was at that time and it was truly A special blend of situation for that eighteen to be on their absolutely and it was just. It was just so much fun and it was really. It was just great. It was it was really enjoyed it and he was kind of weird for us to say. Put the chilly and everything. It's not like you really you know. Football games not like american guidance. Where the the the the audience needs to be told to make noise a football. I call it football. 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Tv's and more so you can watch what you want on the go or on the big screen wherever you are so visit my special link right now at express vpn dot com slash good seats and you get an extra three months of express vpn for free support the show and watch what you want from where you want and protect yourself all the same time again at express vpn dot com slash good seats one more time express vpn dot com slash good seats. Let's talk about how this cosmos theme comes into being. How how do you even get in the situation. Were you assigned this by by one of the organs or were you. Did you volunteer for. This was i. Guess i'm i'm took to modern producer and said. Hey listen you know you guys wanna come up with some 'cause they they knew that we would like you know. Studying english is just like crazy about football. You love football and they wanna write something for the for the For the team. So i had an idea for this. I had an idea for this. The bad They that that was that was kind of it. And so the came up with this beef written an island came up with the baseline and sort of put it together and then they incorporate which was like the big thing. Everybody did that england. I'm doing england. Won the world cup and then back in one that long before you know. So we thought we put that into cousin cosmos. put that in there and and And so we recorded we recorded. This week recorded yourself and you know bank added. Thanks there are. It came to like putting it to the team. The team like it and And and it was kinda funny because the team wanted to have as the theme song for them. We are the champions by queen but but The the the j. lied and said no we down to something we can to that so the cheerleaders. Kinda want us out one of the one of the The victory. I believe so. That's what i heard anyways. So you're saying it that that really in the studio kinda came together pretty quickly then. Yeah i mean. I just i just yeah i you know. I just thought you know this idea for you. Know it's like a theme for number just sort of expanded on that thing that i had the beaten in the they eighty data. That was that was that was the thought of it. That was the It got played not only after every goal in the In the state but also became a hallmark of all the advertising and all the the cosmos broadcasts and all that kind of stuff where did the name cosmic highlanders come from. Was that something legally that you had to do versus saying awb or was that just a kind of a. They bought it. They bought the whole thing. They they bought the whole thing. And they i guess they wanted that to the should be as and so they. Well we of the average white man on the we signed away. We signed away any ownership until it was that pleasure to give some music to the cosmos and that was We were on a to be able to do that. So give me a sense. Then of we're you. It sounds like you're obviously soccer fans but did you did you sort of get into this whole cosmos theme because it did seem like the scene it did seem like it was you were a member of the warner communications company. You're you kind of had to be by the cosmos thing whether you liked it or not but i suspect that you liked it pretty much. Oh no we loved it loved. It was i mean we. We would like football stuff. I mean when we went back to england were always going to games. You know we used to go. Lisa go to scotland england games all the time and being the only english member of average white man in disguise where time it was going on angels but we were kinda stopped at that Be here. I mean we used to. Then we used to run around and play. We there was a couple of clubs up in connecticut. Where molly molly and an island lead and we had a bit of a football team that we used to go. We used to go out there and play a bit. You know rod. Stewart was out here in los angeles and used to him and he's he's he's English buddies used to have a football team. That used to play out here. I mean nothing that we'd ever get to play against each other for them. I mean when we when we were out here in los angeles working with them so hamburg humber. Good the engineer it he from. He's from brazil and he had a lot of brazilian print. So we go and play football with him. And his zillion friends so we used to play back then. In those days we could We could run around quite a bit and play neighbors We used to enjoy having a kick around but we never. It was never on the tv. I mean i'm a when they had when they had the world cup here in the united states There was the semi final was on. And i was in a cab going to going to new york airport. Getting ready to fly over to europe and mean is a puerto rican contractor. We're trying to find a football game on the on the radio the and They were playing was. It was the replay on the sports sports channel. Planning a replay of the Stanley cup guy that year and so it was really so disrespectful they got. It didn't get very much respect from the from the sports media. Yeah so maybe that was why it didn't really kick off straight away from that I mean thank god for the american Ladies team who just on one of those in Interning interest around Probably more so. I would say more so than the than the mountain. Then the mountain The the the usa lady soccer team is just one wonders. Wanted us jobs. They great great joel playing football. And then you know. Deservedly deadly world champion when pele was was part of the team in seventy five seventy six seventy seven and even he still related to the to the team. After he stopped playing he famously as part of his deal with warner and mika's mos had at a Head of music clause in there where he actually could use it. And i think he collaborated with sergio mendez on on some stuff. Were you ever part of the mix or you ever asked to be part of the mix of of maybe helping pele get a couple of things out there in recorded music. No no the saturday. No would love to done. That would have been fantastic. Down obama pelvic bit so it'd be wonderful and that no that never would they had. Yeah well i mean i. I don't know how great a musician was. I'm i've heard some of the music. It's not bad the album. But i mean you know. People don't think ascribe him as being sort of the concert musician per se but but knowing in all the stuff that was swirling around and and atlantic records at the time i was wondering if they would just part of the stable of being maybe possibly part of the mix. Well now i mean i. I never really had too much to do with any any of the players you know other than just be fines and go watch the game. That was it you know we were just really there was we. Were just happy to do that. Anything that you remember that stands out about the erdogan's or steve ross. Or any of the other crazy. Cosmo's egos that. Were sort of out there and stuff that that Or was it just sort of a big mail stream of of stars and soccer and and your music blaring on the there's moments in games that the the the the the that you'll never that you'll never forget you know i mean it is When i told about the french team playing the cosmos they they really sort of had it because most of the is is but they probably wasn't playing and none of the. None of the finale was playing a lot of the the the the main players who was mainly like a. Us they put together for that the but You know there was. There was some really. There's some really great great moments being out of football. you know. Menendez moments is certain. Goes sort of sticking my head that The the people that people scored or kanani was very much guy was sort of hang around Hang around the you know. The almost offside area just hang around there. We called him a bit of a go. Hang a but when when he got on the end of it was just amazing. The putting in the back of the net is just a really great great player. And so i did it was it was that and it was just wonderful to be a part of the whole thing really. I mean to be a part of atlantic the atlantic of the family to be a part of the of the Knows they just why you're making you feel pot of of of of of the company and and and you know if it's worth anything until i still do feel very much. A part of that company still have very very fond memories of of the museum that we may be the response and then and Sessions and stuff that. I did with domino to get an he was. He's just like a wonderful wonderful wonderful mine and a just him and his wife me Just wonderful people next week. He's brother to share a move. As a basketball player of a turkish pocket. basketball player came over and worked in in our and in In atlantic records just a really great man and his wife. Susan and You know it's a it was it was it was. It was a wonderful wonderful moment you had to be. Everybody should have a moment lead that well. Your your career obviously was on fire In those late seventies and early eighties. And you're more than on your way beyond even just the the the constraints if you will of the average white band but while that was going on in shock i mean we could literally spend a day going through literally all the all the great artists and bands that you played with and then some afterwards but while that that you're red hot music career is ongoing and while we have you talk still about soccer for a couple more minutes. What do you think having. What do you think what do you what do you think was the demise of the cosmos. I mean eat. Saw it in the heyday. But you probably also were around enough to sort of see a decline. What was your perception of why. Maybe it didn't last long for me. It just came to a screeching halt. It was kind of you know like we went on the road and we started working and and and and do something an average what mankind found trying to stop stop working together and was was more involved with the in in doing next and and working with other people durand around their collapse and stuff like that traveling out of the country and then one day a ten minute. I'm like so what happened to the cosmos. Where did they go. You know it was one of those things. I don't know i guess it's kinda like i. I think it's maybe you can compare it to to to today's music industry. It's like the all of a sudden you look around in that go with. It waited those who go with. Where did that did that. Where did that that that way of making music go instead of being so much of a business. It's like you know. I guess the the difference between between then and now is is if you went and sold somebody and you and i went to reef in l. or amadeo said many. You know i just saw this. This this person plane in this club. It's just incredible. Only what what what. What were they doing and start talking to you about the music. The last thing that they would ask you was. How old are they. What did they look like. You know it was it was it was all about all about the music and And and and the way did that go. That's that's kind of gone now. Now it was the same thing that happened with the cosmos was woman was there like burning real bright. And then the next minute was gonna. And i couldn't figure out why because every sunday was sold out so you tell me Yeah well we we've gone through a bunch of that with some of our our previous episodes and stuff and and it's it's it's complicated there a bunch of reasons i mean one of which was the cosmo's right. Were the top spending team by then by a large margin right and there are a lot of teams that struggle to keep up with that kind of paycheck kind of thing and the top talent and television wasn't really solidifying and it was popular in new york and a few other markets. But you know there were twenty some odd other teams out there. Not all of which were nearly as financially secure and warner communications had its own issues in the early eighties with atari in particular that kind of sabotage the rest of the company and frankly a lot of the and i suspect this sort of as you were seguin out of. Awb into other things you probably also saw the saw that and in atlantic records in in that they were it kind of having to you know grit and bear some some down economic times both in the company and the country. I mean. I guess that's the only thing that i can think that. Having the financially there was something fell out with the out of the bottom of it and she couldn't keep going but yeah i mean i did understand that there was there was there wasn't much much much competition for for for the coast most but they didn't. There were some change. Some of the places. I think one of the like chicago. Some of the detroit. Didn't they get josie best or something to come to play with certain. George george best played for three teams. Nsl in los angeles he played enough lauderdale and at san jose and he was matter of fact. One of our one of our dream guests as well is is elton john. I mean i don't know how much you remembers about. Nineteen seventy four and owning the los angeles aztecs and bringing george best over to the s. l. to play but it would be an interesting conversation for sure and we will always keep our hope that we can finally get him for a couple minutes talk about that. Well you know you kind of keep us away from football for too long so let me let me let me. Let me ask you one last question. It's actually a two pronged question. One is sort of so. You've been in the states for some time. Obviously i'm assuming you're still a a proper football fan. What do you think the future of the sport is here in the united states. Given now that we're thirty teams in this thing called major league soccer. Do you think it's ever going to approach things. Like the english premier league and other international teams and that kind of stuff. Do you think it has a future in this country it were or maybe it's still you know for me. I mean when i looked at indiscriminately but at it's better than any other league. That's out there was just incredibly exciting to see that you know and and i and i and i think the you know that a lot of the american players some of you feel better american players actually gone plane that league and come back with the experience the plane and i think what is one of the things main things i think that missing has been missing was is a is a good coach for the for the american team. You know when they add kingsman it became. I actually started to be like the game. I it wasn't just. Americans charging around playing american playing american football kind of aggressively. There was there was there was a there was more of a beauty. It's more of a floats. It the way that they were plane. And i think i think i think there's i think you know i think america could could put together a great thing of fantastic team of great players as you have the athletes. You have the training. You have the finances. You have everything to do that a. I think that it needs to see experience it. I can get that you know. I think it can there to be to be to this league. The league's here the players. But i think that they have to go and play that to be able to figure it out. Well you you you live in. La do you fancy yourself going to l. afc games were or galaxy games or is it not sort of your cup of tea the n- you know what the only time that i've ever been there was was. I went to see a boxing match. That answers become. I've ever been there. But i mean you know they. They played down the street from me. Fulfills up above a pop. They they re did the fulfills. They've played there every sunday. There's lots of teams play there at the high school next to me football matches all the time and And and now. I get to watch premier league on on the tv. I i take the the things that i didn't the all the games and I'm my My my my hometown team the seagulls brighton brighton and well-being you know They have been watching them play. And that's that's been that's been fun to be able to see them play in the premier league and stay there by the skin of their teeth staying there and So you know i think. The interest in the interest in in in in boy in america's has changed a lot from back then. I think that they figured out to the guy that don't have to stop. Stop the game. I to make money from it. They can. they do in europe. They run the ads on the side of those panels when the round the field and the money can still be made from it and then uh they can still advertise their appetizing. without interrupting. The game will put something over the game that you might miss something so I think it's a different world. I don't know. I think that you don't. Mls game in la. God forbid may even come up with another theme for the next generation of sports teams here. I mean you've done on my on my drag. My sounds dennehy. They go to the new stadium down. So i might. I'm like i might go down there and see when they start playing again. Well let me ask you one last question. That's so musically obviously you. You've been just a force. A drummer extraordinaire. And then some would just literally a litany of a who's who of grammy winners and legacy talal isn't all that kind of stuff and again we we we'll we'll we'll we'll do a intro that sort of at least give some of that justice but so you've wrapped up with the heartbreakers and you've got a new out relatively new band with some of your old mates now right now. Yeah with with with the with the with actually. It was a band called three sixty his mission. I and molly duncan from average white band. But molly pasta away a couple of months ago so There's there's only two sixty now says we both we both rapidly approaching seventy but but We did we did play. We did go doing than do it. Till i'm finished. That we were supposed to do with molly really nice Memorial service In montross with the family. And i i said i think we should think some so we. We've been we've been writing muslims and we'll put something else so i'd be there the next year and that's great. I get the sense that you don't strike me as the retiring type right. I sense that music is is always going to be part of your life and you've got lots more still left in you in some form or fashion. Now it's kinda hot retired from playing. You know he's i play. I love playing. I love mike amusing. I love this. There's nothing like i mean. I really love doing it. I mean i i play. I have a little jazz pan invited to play with two guys. Tahoe and matt corey invited me to play jazz at this jazz gig out in pasadena chasing. I said oh fantastic. Nobody ever play jazz. And i love playing guys little kitten everything and they said oh yeah. Your love is so makes choosy And and i'm what times they hit and they said eight o'clock in the morning and i hate to cook in the more. You're gonna pay jazz at eight o'clock in the morning and said yeah. That was two years ago. And and i've been doing it ever since and it's something that i really when when when when we do it was i if i'm in town i'm there on tuesday morning. We're not gonna play for the next couple of waste. They're out of town stuff with their families. Really pissed them because it would be really nice if they feel like playing around christmas but But i i you know i just love doing that. I love I just love making music. You try and finish album. The i started of starting on my own twenty years ago. I started to record some some there and i gotta finish that year. We're going to get twenty. Twenty is my objective to get. It finished all right. Well you you keep us abreast us to win. That's coming out so that we can promote it. And i want to leave you with one last favorite of mine. I mean you've got just a hundreds and hundreds of great tracks that you've been part of over the years. I just want to tell you the one that stands out in my mind that i absolutely love and only recently discovered that you were the drummer for and that was from shock. Icons what you're gonna do for me album and its title track. What you're gonna do for me. You're banged the hell out of that song and it is just it's just it's the essence of you as soulful and keep that song together and pump that song. Whatever they did in the studio whatever shot in the studio with all due respect. I think you're the one that made at the track drive. And i love it and love it even more now than i know that you were part of it so we. We did it twice. Okay we did enjoy it was. It was originally an average wyatt minds. Some and chocolate comes. If you see this is what other things she comes to visit and hang out with us in the studio and she just saying that sang sang sang the choruses along with when we when we when we recorded it with average white man and she said well you know if you ever get rounds of wanting wanting me to do that. Something i'd love to do it so cried i cried. Davis wouldn't put that somehow as a single coverage white. Andy said that it wasn't. The some was bright i and And now we recorded it with shock. We hamish record in. That album was shocking and switzerland. And we recorded what you gonna what you gonna do for me with her. And she had a huge hit with dot a song and it holds up it holds up and then some it's it's it's it feels like it was recorded yesterday. It's fantastic it. Was you know when we used to make me. I'm sorry records we quick question. I'm sorry is there any chance any thought any possibility. And i don't know what the the the situation is the stuff that you would quote unquote reunite or play a couple more gigs. With some of the other remaining members of average white band or is that ship kind of sailed. Well yeah i'm not. I'm not really sure. I'd my door is always open for that. I think famous. She's though is other for that. I think he have to talk about that. One more than anybody else you. That'd be a good question for them yet. They number no. I don't have any reason to call him. I mean i mean. I guess i could ask them about what their thoughts about the cosmos theme was but at some point short. They have any different memories of it or make it. Ask him that question to ask you said you. Their number of yeah. I think there are lot of average white band fans that would argue that. You guys were of part of that sort of classic time and lineup in the mid to late seventies early eighties. That was called the essential. I guess you know. Obviously lots of band members have come and gone and that band but arguably you were part of that of that aimed sort of a time that people sort of classically remember a w before yeah Yeah the it's kind of. It's kind of a that. Was that was the the creative era area for what i think. It's gonna stop when when we broke up for seconds but The you know still playing. They still great. I mean it's i go and see him sitting with him every once in a while but anyway nothing like the original thing i it was. It was really special thing that To to put that that rhythm section the band and those vocals together it was really special. I just have one wish as we depart here. And i i thank you tremendously for for all of your time and for talking to me in your car while the game goes on in is Is somehow some of you guys get back together at a gig say in the new york area and just for kicks. Play the cosmo's theme. It would be. I think there'd be more than a few people that not only would remember it but clap with you along the way all right well. Let's see what we can do that. That hamish about it. All right there it is. The door is open and we look forward to figuring out maybe The opportunity to perhaps in our own selfish way. Maybe get Steve and the remaining members of today's touring average white band back together for at least one little session. Maybe has to recreate that great theme known as the by the way they are the num- diplom- of of the cosmic highlanders. We kind of mentioned that a little bit. But if you're looking for it on on ebay or looking for it out there in the ether you will not find the song of the cosmos theme song under the name of the average white band or even. Awb for that matter you will find them under their pseudonym notice the cosmic highlanders and the record was issued as a single. I'm not sure if it was widely available beyond the the hallways and the you know. The merchant stands of giant stadium back in the day. But we'll have a picture of the sleeve on our website and good seats. Still available dot com. You search the episode number one hundred forty six with steve rome. A we find that this episode and of course all the other episodes. But you'll find a bunch of of images and memories and and of course all kinds of links to great stuff all across the web on on some of our great Books and media that are various guests have done. But if you wanna find a visual of what that Forty-five looked like back in the day of the cosmos theme. You'll find it there on that episode number one forty-six on good seats still available dot com. You want to check out. What steve perron is up to and yeah. He's constantly on the road constantly sitting in with all kinds of great musicians. He's got his own band out there. Three sixty ban may perhaps may be renamed. We'll see but so you can check him. Out at steve barron dot com. Make sure you spell it right. That steve pharaon f. e. r. n. e. dot com and. That's where you can find. All of what steve is up to on the road in the studio and then some and again you wanna find out what we're doing with this little show both this week as well as ongoing. It's good seats. Still available. dot com bookmark. It go there early and often you'll find all the old episodes as well as links to all the stuff that will keep you in touch with this little show here. We appreciate your doing. So you want to Track on on social media will look for us on instagram. At good seats still available. You'll find us on twitter at good seats still. You'll find us on facebook. There's a page devoted to was there. You want to send us some e mail. Go right ahead. we're at hello at good seats. Still available dot com any of the members of. Wb want to reach out and contact me for your own. Memories of the cosmic highlanders cosmos theme production process. By all means. We'd love to have you and then maybe we'll see we can get a get together with steve and producing sing the song again. That would be fun and a great test sort of closing of the historic circle for. We cosmo's fans out. We appreciate that also while you're on the website if you want to sign up for a weekly email newsletter you can do that too. There's a link to that there as well and one last thing. Of course our friend jerry. Pain and pod fly productions they are the producers of all of our collective pieces each and every week makes us sound somewhat humanly consumable and we appreciate it every week of course and you wanna find out more about pod. Fly in their production efforts and their services. Of course you can do so by going to pod. Flying dot net all right. We leave you this week with the full. Long version of the cosmo's theme inclusive of the infamous were famous. Depending on respective cosmo's clap. Yeah the here at a couple of times in there and Please enjoy it. Steve and his friends. And the old awb the cosmic highlanders and We Thank you for listening this week until next week. Tie and abby will. Bob took from the past era. Took power talk Talk i.

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"Support for this podcast comes from. Cdw and trend micro and cdw. We get the patch together. Security can leave gaps in protection. Catch things together all the time like this broken desk chair. Some duck good as new orchestrated by. Cdw trend micro cloud one provides unified protection and better visibility across cloud services. It's all in one cloud security can hold. Its all k- wanna buy some gently used office furniture no thanks. It orchestration by cdw people who get it find out more at cdw dot com slash trend micro nano what old welcome to another episode of the ocho presented you in partnership as always with espy. Nations blogging the boys dot com. Name are joe cha you know me of course from vdb informatica as you're humble host on the show. It is friday november. Sixth two thousand and twenty. We hope all is well wherever you are. We hope you're happy safe healthy. And i hope you're able to get to something that's pending this weekend. You know maybe you got a chore. 'less you know you got an errand to run. If you gotta move to watch or a tv show something like that. I have found that. It's just you know used to be like let's just watch a movie boom done. It is so tough now to just get to even a movie. And i finally did finish the all. Or nothing season on tottenham hotspur by the way and it was fantastic. It was so interesting. If you're looking for a sports documentary. i cannot give it a higher recommendation. Even if you don't like soccer it really is truly fascinating as it. Chronicle last year's spurs and you know obviously there anticipation of and dealing with and the aftermath of dealing with the pandemic interesting to watch team. Go through all that. But i digress. It is friday which means the dallas cowboys will host the pittsburgh steelers in about forty eight hours kind of muscle minnows. Depending on when. You're listening to this and i don't know of a time where a cowboys game has felt more certain in terms of a result in recent memory Obviously the pittsburgh steelers defeated the dallas cowboys are not steelers are seven and the cowboys to in six the cowboys. We'll be on there by after this people talk about trap games a lot or looking ahead write in generally. It's a matter of let's we'll use the couches are example right off. The cowboys are playing the packers next week. And maybe they're playing Like a lowly giants stadium ri- like they're looking ahead of that packers game. You know like the seasons where everything's good and this kind of feels like that Just with variables very different instead of looking ahead to the bigger game and the bigger matchup the bigger sort of contest of the season. It just feels like it's yeah. Let's get to the good of the. Let's let's get there because this this has been a stumble away to get to the final single digit week of the season. It is week nine by the way and the nfc east has nine wins. That's right or actually eight wins right. The eagles have three wins. Washington and dallas each have to so that's seven and new york has want so that's right. It's week nine in the. Nfc east has less winds fewer wins. Excuse me then the number of is but that's just kind of the way it's been and this has been a really i. I used the word boring earlier in the week. And maybe that's not the right word. It's just been a really kind of moderately chilly week for the cowboys new. You know a few weeks ago. We had the report right. The anonymous reporter kind of stoke the flames and part of it i think is the cowboys had been such a disaster. Recently there was this like grabbing the pitchforks mentality for cowboys fans everywhere and we. We measure engage. I've talked about this before. The confidence of the cowboys fans at espy nation with tool called reacts. And if you're part of the people that get the emails every week get an email that asks you. How confident you feeling of the team and So we measure that. And i wrote about this if you're listening on friday likely. You're listening on friday friday. Morning and confidence bounced back for cowboys fans. Last week it was recorded at two percent cowboys fans at two percent level of confidence following the loss in washington and bounced all the way back up to twelve percent. And i realize you know when you're at the bottom. You really have nowhere to go but up. I wonder though how much of that is the fact that the defense played better. I think that that is certainly encouraging that that that a young promising potential cornerstone like trayvon. Two interceptions put some wind in sales. And then i wonder how much of that is is really legitimately is fixed on the future because it does feel like i mean. I don't know who you're cowboys. Fan pens friends. Are you know if i could if i could speak you know. I don't know your your fellow friends. Are that are cowboys fans. I know we are. We're pals were easier But it i feel like if you asked any of your cowboys fans friends that we go. The most exciting thing going on with the dallas cowboys are now in terms of you know mechanisms for success would be that the team is currently projected to be a top five at the two thousand and twenty nfl draft and that is exciting right. And we're all kind of call it. What you want. Tank organically tanking. Whatever the case may be by. That is an exciting prospect. And so i do think that. That's why confidence has has sort of bounced back. I also think there's merited confidence because the cowboys have purged different players. They traded everson griffen cut. Tari typo cut darryl wurley and the defense did play better. I mean that's worth mentioning and we'll see how this team looks against the pittsburgh steelers. I can't imagine it will. It will look all too well. By the way we will get into the steelers matchup specifically on this episode of the pre-game today is friday. We will drop obviously later on today. Brand new episode of girls. Talk and boys with kelsey. Charles and meg murry. You can also watch that episode on our youtube channel. We are working on getting all of our episodes Continually up on our youtube channel. Some extra go subscribe there. You can listen. Of course to cowboys cowboy magnon with moody's and entirely spanish spoken cowboys show and then later on saturday night we will drop the pre-game and we will have. Brian davis from behind the steel curtain. Espy nations pittsburgh steelers side. To kinda preview this matchup and go over some things that maybe the cowboys can success against. We we do a series with every team that the cavs are playing that team side of explanation where we ask them some questions. We published on the site and i think the general consensus among steelers fans is that ben rothlisberger hasn't been on fire this season and so if you're looking for any shred of optimism. I think it's i think it's there. I think it's also the fact that relatively speaking the cowboys are healthy and again that has been incredibly relative because obviously there are a number of players on injured reserve wednesday and thursdays. Practice report for the cowboys are identical. We do these other blog on the bus dot com for you every day. By the way ezekiel elliott and alden smith. Both limited on wednesday and thursday zeke listed with a hamstring injury. Alden smith with a knee injury. Mike mccarthy has spoken optimistically about both of them so again in terms of who. The cowboys currently have on their roster. It does seem like they will be basically at full health against pittsburgh and so it is an enormous mountain to climb. The cowboys are thirteen and a half point underdogs and i don't think that's enough but hey stranger things have happened. I mean i don't know but you will hear from me tomorrow on the pre-game girl's talking boys later today a cowboy magnon makes you subscribe to the blog. The boys podcast feed. We are available. Wherever you get your podcast subscribe leave a rating review. We really appreciate all those things. Also do me a huge favor. Have the absolute best friday of all time. You know why because you deserve it. It was beyond my friends as always go cowboys and pizza.

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Feedback July 2020

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

15:22 min | 10 months ago

Feedback July 2020

"Hello and welcome to a new episode of Settlers Bruce, your podcast, all about Bruce springsteen his music and mostly fans I am your host Jesse Jackson. And joining me today is no one or everyone. That's right. Today is a feedback episode the call out for people. To give me of thoughts on episodes. And I thought I'd share them. With you. So let's start out with holly from Wisconsin. Holly is a frequent contributor to feedback on. My doctor who podcast and she says Jesse. I really enjoyed the episode that Charles, your partner in time on next up everywhere guested on he finally made it onset listing Bruce it was nice to hear about Charles. Assert Music enjoyable episode and I hope he does return later to talk more music with you holly from. Wisconsin. Thank you, Holly. I, agree I had a lot of fun with Charles joining me depending on who you ask he says it's because I did not ask him often enough. I say I asked him all the time. We just needed to figure out a date in a time. But yes, it was great to have him. chuck. MOFFATT. At Chuck Moffatt on Twitter said my story. I to catch one of the to nineteen eighty Lakeland civic center shows sold out immediately scalpers had a field day. Thanks boss. By born in the USA he was so huge. He never came back to central Florida Til Ninety two with other band. No Berno. Now when he tourists, he displaced Tampa Tampa sucks. Well. Thank you chuck for Sharing Your Springs Story I, appreciate it. Another springsteen story from Liz Brunson who said getting in the pits second rose standing. After he brought out a darling child to sing waiting on a sunny day he tried to hand her back to me I, shook my head. No, he said no and I pointed to her parents ten people to my left. You can see it all on Youtube for that show. Thank you. Liz, that's a great story and I. Hear I have a rumor that you're joining me on the podcast pretty soon. Here's another springsteen story, Liz Wang Kit, which is at de Wang. Kit On twitter. She. Says I'm a sophomore in high school. My best friend her brother and I go to Princeton University to see Bruce. We had nosebleed seats and we could see that Bruce kept leaving the stage to throw up in a bucket but back out he went, and of course, the show was amazing. We left the arena Busse Bruce's bus was sitting there. We decided to wait as the night went on. We met all the band finally around three. Am Bruce came out he was so gracious might be F I and my bff, and I we could kiss him and he said how both on each cheek best night. That is a great story. Marker Heart Cross which is at m. m. Hail Man am mailman fifty, two on twitter his frings thing story was lottery pick one and two twice meadowlands giants stadium beginning of the tour and end of the tour. Amazing. here I got someone actually left me a voicemail. So let's play that. Hi, this is Ed mccaskey. I'm a sometimes contributed Jesse's said listen groups podcast series but a frequent fan and listener to his shows as as all of you who are Just wanted to give a couple of thoughts on on recent and that's a recent episodes and Jesse in general my friend Jesse although I've never met Jesse in person We live thousands of miles apart had had a couple of conversations, but I think everybody that that has the the opportunity the privilege of being with Jesse on one of his podcasts comes away feeling that he's a friend and he's so welcoming and. A good a good listener and I think that's something that maybe sets his series of podcasts aside from other podcasters, all the podcasters have a of course. For talking and expressing themselves on on interesting topics I think Jesse especially and remarkably as as an excellent listener he's very good at drawing people out and I think other career paths said, he could have taken. We know he's a call center professional but I, think he also have been a talk show host a psychiatrist, a life coach maybe your favorite. English. Teacher or maybe this is just the best bartender in town He's he's that good at not only talking to. People but talking with people couple of excellent episodes in the recent past I just want to point out correctly I really enjoyed the episode with Jay Armstrong where he delved into the origins of the famous Mary question really interesting to hear Jay talk with Jesse about that how that came about his his experience as a high school teacher and you know how you know the the beatings that we all derived from listening to springsteen's music, and especially his lyrics Also, enjoyed the episode with Monmouth University Professor Ken Campbell University, that I have some involvement with and it was very good to hear that that discussion with Ken who has a of course that he actually teaches at a university level on on springsteen and what a what a what a really great opportunity that is for the students there and you know how that whole that whole thing came about to be. And finally, I want to mention again. Thank Jesse. Especially for an episode he region. reformatted and broadcast about a relative of Mine Mark Barkan who passed away and March He had early recorded a show with more Markazi was a composer Song writer who authored a Pretty Flamingo song that's covered by springs team quite frequently but which mark never really got full credit for I don't think he's ever been acknowledged on stage by Bruce and Jesse did what he could to well. Popularize familiarize folks with the with with Morris contributions very enjoyable long discussion and Jesse. Let's let's mark most talking which again brings out I think is is skills and talent as a as a great listener as well as great podcast her so I will I'll leave it there and I wanNA thank Jesse for giving me this opportunity to give him some thoughts about his wonderful series of broadcast I. Think it's his fifth anniversary of doing this. So best of luck, many more of these this of this good work Jesse in the future. Thanks. And thank you so much for all those kind words I appreciate it. You are a true friend of the PODCAST and I agree with you we may never mad we may be thousand miles away, but I think of you as a friend and I appreciate all the support As we say down south you're good people. Here's an email that I really appreciate. So I, just checked out set less than Bruce podcast for the, first time. I have to be honest I. Did it because Jesse? Charles, put this out together. I'm not really what you call a fan of Bruce Springsteen, the list songs that Charles listed as his favourite is pretty much. My word, my entire Bruce springsteen listen list. I didn't have cable as a kid so I didn't watch a lot of MTV but I was drawn to it when I had the opportunity. The only band that Charles I have in common as a favourite is the Beatles I love Van Halen and a lot of hair bands the eighties we are similar age I believe I was born in the late sixty. So I was a teenager in the eighties I'm where most of the band's he spoke of but not a true fan I love that music blind by the light because the passion the young man shows for his musical hero is the way I felt about the people in the bands that I can identify with them even though Asana personal choice a music. That movie almost made me a fan got falls apart though when we start doing deep cuts, keep up the good work guys. I look forward to hearing your feedback episode. I'll have to keep an eye on it for the list. Then David sins a second email. This is David Kay proper. By the way he sent a second episode saying I really did love the episode where Charles and Jessie talked because I feel like they have become friends over the years I know it's odd to speak of people you've never met as friends, but I listen to you all every week. Your doctor who podcast that the recent podcast series she did about the watchman are a must listen whenever the opportunity presents until you to did the spot guests another I thought never thought about listening to it. Reminds me of my time in the military I was not what you call a great gung soldier I worked in communication. This job led me to a lot of downtime for me and a few worked with could talk about things that we enjoy. There was not a great deal of overlap. Whoever we became great friends and will learn about things that had not been exposed to on our own. For instance, one of my closest buddies took me to the rat on YouTube movie and I own a copy of that. Now, I treasure the memory I felt like I was in the middle of another one of those conversations, these conversations what got me through a military service you guys got me through as at work on our troops and the current lockdown. That same buddy also got me into comic books unfortunately for the overlap between me and you guys are. Marvel Fan. I never watched twin peaks my musical tastes the Subaru. Eccentric You guys feel like I could walk in and sit down and room with the two of you and discuss whatever for hours on end and enjoy it even though it wasn't my personal favorite subject keep up the good work. Thank you. David Kay proctor thank you David I appreciate it. By the way. David has also agreed to join me on the PODCAST and a couple of weeks. Some very excited about that. nother. Pizza feed-back Roger Winter. Sent me an email saying my first concerts were on the born in the USA tour in July nineteen, eighty, five, I was sixteen I went to Wembley and leads. round park on consecutive days. In my traveling from Birmingham on the train save for months and months to finance the trips. It was utterly magical and changed my life. I was very shy lad who wouldn't say, boo to a goose I remember standing on the hill at round. Hey scoffing at the picnic burke grade in standing up to dance blocking their view made them stand up to dance to. My verse recent concert was Coventry a couple of years ago I went when my wife this time. I was so excited because my tickets said row a, it was right at the back and we were set slapped behind. A beer cellar couldn't see a thing Karma I suspect. Cheers Roger. Thank you Roger that was a great story I appreciate it and you're right. It probably was Karma. As always I appreciate any feedback you guys want to share me. It is so. Important. I I just WANNA. We are coming up as I record this, it's the end of July in September I am having. the fifth anniversary of the PODCAST September will be five years I'm doing the podcast so I definitely want I'm going to be doing some fun things for the month. I'M GONNA, end this with thanking my patrons Mary Terry Dale. Anna Steve Holly and Chris. You guys kick in a little money every month you help me take care of some of the expenses on podcast and it is greatly greatly appreciated if you. Want to join me. And you know these other patrons and Support the PODCAST, it's easy to do go to our patron page look up at there's all kinds of levels and from each level you have different benefits You can help me as little as one dollar a month, and that really does make a difference. you can go to are settlers, Bruce Store, where you can buy a set listening press shirt or mask. You can go to Itunes to rate and review the PODCAST. That is a great way to help us if you want to be on the show I. Need a guess. I'm always needing guests send me an email at set lesson bruce gmail.com. You can find me on twitter at Jesse Jackson DFW. Or The show at set listening Bruce on twitter and let us know. Let us know what we're doing. Well, let me know what you wish. I would do better at and just Keep me posted I need to hear from you. 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Does Clint Dempsey belong on Sounders Mount Rushmore? Brad Evans helps us debate + Chicago Fire stories/pantheon with Peter Wilt

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1:15:10 hr | 1 year ago

Does Clint Dempsey belong on Sounders Mount Rushmore? Brad Evans helps us debate + Chicago Fire stories/pantheon with Peter Wilt

"You're listening to entrance is driven by continental. You feel enough for that matter. I feel a lot better Bob. Extra telling me see how I find out what's going on in the MLS. Maybe this podcast is influenced me a little bit as well cut loss. Everybody up here. Every single day goes into the office into the laboratory to try to cook up some great stuff for you guys here from Brooklyn New York. You are listening to extra time driven by Continental. I'm injury we with my partners. In Soccer Charlie Davies Chuck D. David Goss mattdoyle on very little sleep because he's slaving away for you in this porn team. I just want everybody out there to knows. No Doyle will let you know but I fear that I we know that the con- constant trainers never stopped growing so go ahead. Do your problem off the top. What nine it actually hit eleven thousand. We've eight I so bill Barnwell last week for ESPN and did the best primarily transfers of all time which was absolutely fantastic. She's read everything. Bill writes about soccer. I don't care about his NFL stuff. But whatever so I still had idea because they didn't do rankings because rankings are hard so I just did the four different buckets basically of MLS imports all time. That I ended up coming up with the ninety four best. Mls imports ever guys. Who were like budget like Marcello Service level transfers to everything David Beckham? Miguel marrone everything in between it is literally one of the most fun pieces I have ever written because I got to go on the time machine all the way back to ninety six stops basically all points from there to here. It was a lot but I'm actually pretty happy with this one. That is not yeah. I don't even think I need to read it at this point right. I mean I just got the skills like I experienced it if you want to read it. Mls SOCCER DOT com. Of course we know you have some time. We're all dealing with the same thing here. Which is how to be productive how to survive how to stay happy insane in these difficult times just a reminder as we prepare to revisit history. We'RE GONNA go back to ninety eight on this show. Chicago fire and then Seattle sounders as well for a Mount. Rushmore wilt will join us who was the GM and president of the fire in those early days. Those very successful days in Brad Evans. A sounders legend. If there ever was one will join us to help us figure out that Mount Rushmore but reminder social distance. Do your part help us all get through this. We hope you're feeling good. We hope that you're okay. We hope your health unhealthy your family and your friends. is good but you're not suffering but Let's get into it. Let's not let's not talk about the suffering before we get to will before we get to Brad Evans. I saw mean going around Dave that had your name written on it. It was the five most memorable games that you've been to in person and there's nothing that I would like to do more right now as I'm lacking in my house forever and ever sit down for a beer with you and just ask you to tell me soccer stories so you have the floor. What are the five most memorable? David gas soccer matches of all time. So I just want you to know you mentioned pain. This was extremely painful for me to try and create like the leave off some of these babies. Some of these great experiences suggests that you know and feel good. You caused me extreme. This company bless yes. That is exactly what I wanted. So I've got I've got a World Cup last I've got. Us seventy all this stuff but did you rank there or did you bid we've been so again. We're not a five. We'RE GONNA GO BACK to March twentieth winning ten in Newark in Harrison New Jersey for the red bull arena opener against Santos Deepak patient. Hadn't opened yet so you have to take the train into nowhere. And then what? We're all so excited about the march to the stadium through the Portuguese neighborhood for Brazilian club in. You had sounds those flags out and people were like so pumped. This is the future soccer. We'RE GONNA March to every game. No one does that anymore. A guy named Neymar was playing for Santos on the other side. Israel's out Sandra both who went on to neighboring light was playing for the Red Bulls though and Dan Richards and the Estonian Haji Higel Lynn Pam Lifting. It up literally took a bus down from balk or that game. I was living in Boston at the time. I don't think I've never been to a soccer specific stadium in North America. I've been going to giant stadium for about six years at that point. I'd be gone. Rats Games at Gillette are so excited so ready. I took the bus down for the weekend Nolan. None of my friends understood was going my one friend who had season tickets now at this point twenty years. Couldn't out Avis. His tickets. We wet. Stadium was perfect. The atmosphere was perfect. attentional the idea of what the future is going to be amazing so back. That's my number five cold on one. No I never pegged you for a march to the match guy you know. I always thought you were Kinda you know after all that. Fc Cincinnati Talk. I was Martin to the future. This this mustache was not possible. In Twenty Ten. So everything is so tied to rig. It happened I did different different moments so I didn't want to do multiple. Mls openings theme opening stuff like that so the next time I went was foreign club game and it was a toss up one in Italy wanted England. They finished with twenty seventeen championship. Promotion game at Wembley reading verse. Huddersfield was terrible awful game but we spent about four and a half hours outside drinking with reading fans before because random tickets and they were in the reading section and you roll at any reading section just all of a sudden and we ask while you're to drink outside and they were like no but it's Wendy so yes which apparently is a rule in England about four and a half hours. Those fans winning. I think it went to penalty. Kicks One hundred twenty minutes and sun up top. Wembley with flags. It was beautiful environment Beautiful atmosphere that one won out over Roma Lots Yo in Italy because they're fans are a little bit too much at times. Number three was a tie and I do not. I mean I guess it was a totally accepted twenty fourteen World Cup. Which was the best atmosphere was at at that World Cup? I think that city the stadium the best fan base on from locals and USA Mexico. Dosa Sarah going into that. World Cup win densely purchase dance to see if he does play for live of those. Were two on my list. I'm glad that you knocked them off. So that way I don't have the same announced was amazing. The by the way you're just like you fly into the middle of the rain forest and it just nothing but you know the Amazon and just green everywhere and I remember beforehand. We were doing a tour of all the sort of like iconic Amazon Manaus like. I was supposed to jump into the river with the pink river dolphins and they were gonNA film it and I've never been so happy that we were running late that I got to skip that because I was terrified and Nick I was just having so much fun with the fact that he was gonNA throw into the Amazon River with pink. Bottlenose dolphins it looked like freak. Show aliens I still feel anxiety about that moment. Continue that was a tyrant. Three in both of those were incredible. What was number two twenty eighteen World Cup three matches outrageous in terms of atmosphere and event like landed on argentina-nigeria because if you've ever been around a legit Argentina crowd it blows everything else out of the water singing for hours and hours? Chance flags the way they're getting. We had experienced them in Moscow like two weeks before nine around game in the street and they sang for about five and a half hours and drank on the street in Moscow so to go into that game if it was only World Cup atmosphere has been in. Where not like you were in a home country and you weren't odd the way they invaded it and then I was sitting next. Nigeria club like front office all their section so when they scored go tie which meant they. Were going through your kissing the floor around me hugging and the Nessie score is one of the grade schools. I've ever been around. And then they get a winner in the fourth minute and the stadium was probably dancing for two hours after one. One of the best things I've ever been around. I can still picture. The white at the whole city was covered with the flag coming down and everyone in their jerseys and then number one which made this great because it isn't analyst moment but is actually probably what the coors events I've ever been to was the siege divas. Cc on final activists at Assadi Akron to go into the lions. Then it's in a valley. It takes an hour to get there from the city and the whole time you just hear honking and fans are out in the in. This was hours before the game. You get into the stadium and was like what you picture in a South American atmosphere with the banners coming full supporter section top to bottom in just floating as the fans dance hours before the game. Forty five thousand plus the events the way the game played out unfortunate with the result but the beer being thrown post-game. Internet not working looking like I'm falling off the side of it. Why in a SKYPE GOING BACK TO NEW YORK? It was amazing. It was everything like in soccer. I was wrapping. Mls on foreign on foreign shores fans were perfect. The atmosphere was wild. The game made no sense. So that's probably my one love fever. Hit the number one their love that I think maybe at a Olympique for me America Montreal. That would be my conversation to go to the twenty fourteen. World Cup. I would throw out two games. I was at the opener Brazil. Croatia and that everything leading up to that match was just kind of spellbinding like being in Sao Paulo having it be Brazil having it be the opener. Just trying to get into the stadium in walk through like two miles of children shoulder. People just getting departing there. I will just partying a lot. We'll just put the other nominee before I get to mind my my one because we don't have time for five for each of us was at that same World Cup. Luis Suarez. Who'd Aguire against England and there was like there was something about it. They're just like a sort of a consternation but an admiration between the two sides and the fans are incredible as well but my number one has got to be the sons Uzi game in Panama. Us Panama. It was me and Roger Bennett. We were the only journalists they're like American journalists at least the stadium. Fernandez is just. It's absolutely packed. Panama's think we're GONNA make it. It's up and down. You can hear every time. Mexico goes down in the crowd. They're throwing beers in the air. They're celebrating a goal was scored in the stadium. Of course it hadn't been they get that late goal from substitute Mana Kimber. Who scored the goal at this? Point is the legend like they brought on. Yeah it's a hot any celebrated for like fifteen minutes like it was a it took me. That's the only wherever the UN's on that game. I didn't mind I wanted so I couldn't believe it either. We couldn't believe it either. Nobody A it was so close and I still have the Howler assange kicking the you know the flotation device to the sinking ship. I mean it was just such. It was like A. You just couldn't believe that it actually happened in everybody who walked out of that stadium. You just felt like they just it was they. Were shell shocked? They didn't know what to do. It couldn't figure it out. I saw the security guard next to us who was kind of guarding our press box. Which was just you know like the really cheap chairs that you might throw on your college patio and somebody's GonNa stand on it or sit on it and break it. You just know it. It's just me and Roger. Basically in the stands I turn to this guy after after. Us scores he's he's he's literally crying is completely stoic. But he's crying and that emotionally. That game was a blender that I don't. I don't think I'll ever replicate so just thinking about that man. I wish we didn't have to think about these moments. But it's fun to do so Charlie. What's the number one memorable one that you did not play in trying to flex on us? Okay no flag right. Well I think he would have known if I'd played in the ultimate game was playing and as I mean it doesn't get better than that but the best game of been to that I haven't played in was would be Chelsea at Mantua. Snide Old Trafford in two thousand ten drug by got the game winner in the seventy nine th minute. I believe in my first time watching a game had been there as a as a youth. A Win over touring and got to tour the stadium which was awesome. But this is the first time I got a chance to experience. Old Trafford Chelsea fans. Because Ashley Cole was the one who got me the tickets we had? We had done rehab together. Probably a month prior to that in France so he got me. Tickets I went with my brother was staying at Holden's Place. It was just the whole build up to the game We had dinner with Ashley. And then you know getting to see Old Trafford and just take it. All in and the drug was scores. Game winner with Chelsea fans it was. It was a pretty cool experience to be when he played in but had to go first name basis on line. Doyle finish it off for us. We'll get Peter Fire first of all shots Gasman for the Red Bull Arena opener. That was a hell of a time. There's a couple that came to mind Italy versus Ireland. Ninety four World Cup at Giants Stadium terrible game but the atmosphere especially from the Irish fans was. It was amazing. You've read there for that. One David now by Ireland played like four years in a row garbage non-peaceful friendly's at China. Okay since I took the bucket. Underage didn't matter the and they were it was fun. It was incredible in the ESPEC- They beat Italy granted. Italy were actually terrible that World Cup in Bosnia completely. Carry them but it felt like I don't know felt like a a watershed moment for for Irish. Soccer turned out not to be bow kids. I was one of the kids after that World Cup that went and got the Roberto Baggio and wore them until they absolutely feed due to legend the the Beckham game at Giants Stadium in two thousand seven which we actually just showed recently on molest classics on our Youtube Channel. That for an Malysz credit like that was the first time I was at an MLS crowd. That was wild. That felt like it felt like a World Cup game in a Lotta ways and of course the game itself was incredible but actually in shutout emotional game I went to USA versus custom RFK. Right after Charlie got hurt The final game of Twenty Time World Cup qualifying. It was ugly ugly night in terms of the weather and like it was awful. It felt awful in in the in the fan base because we were also concerned about Charlie and then we went down to fast and gooch gets hurt but they came back and they got the two nil in ended up being a weird set like it wasn't a joyous thing but it was like okay. We made the World Cup and these guys are hurt now But it was just it was like this really weird league kind of like almost somber unifying moment for the fan base in one. I'll never forget one hundred fans will never forget that hundreds got did Honduras get eliminated. I'm nothing then. Got Eliminated with the result yet. I'm still surprised at some point. Johnny Bornstein hasn't you know with all his traveling around the world to play soccer. That Olympia just hasn't been like Bro. Maritime we'll we'll pay you johnny. Johnny Nichols once a year. Everyone interviews. It'd be shot. He should be like selling something. You should have. Promotional money comes in. Yeah all right time to talk. Mls history. That was fun. That was fun. Good memories guys. If you have games that you have been to that you think are memorable or that we would have fun reminiscing about or you just want to tell the story. Four one two zero six zero. Mls extratime analyst soccer dot com. Let's Peter will and Mount Rushmore for the Chicago fire. It's great to be here. Thanks for doing this. Thanks for keeping the sport in the League alive during the pandemic Yemen alive. In the past. It's funded too reminiscent. Let's go. Let's just go back before we start doing the Mount Rushmore with you. I'm sure you're very opinionated on that particular topic and who belongs there. Tell me about building this club from scratch. It was amazing. Experience made for myself personally. Had STARTED Minnesota thunder before that but his so different with Minnesota. We had two full time employees. Get into Chicago and I'm charged with Putting together this major league team. We had a staff of close to thirty people. Full-timers which is small by today's standards and it was an expansion team and doing so in some ways. Maybe helped because the expectations were low. No one expects expansion teams to win But Chicago obviously being an international city and cosmopolitan city What was really hungry for a professional soccer team and very open and accepting to it and I got a lot of help from people wanting to share best practices and maybe unknowingly worst practices. Unfortunately I got a lot of APP. You learn from people's mistakes as well over time and we did some really good things in particular rehired. Some good people For this topic. Not The least of which was Bob Bradley. You know Bob. I gave him his first professional head. Coaching job he'd been an assistant with DC united in. Dc was the one team. I learned best practices from I went on a tour of all. The teams are as ten of them at the time and I literally learned what not to do from of the ten teams it was DC. United that and Kevin Pangs leadership that taught me what to do a day in the first two years and the reason I think they were so dominant in those early years is that they recognized. It was incumbent upon themselves to look for players and to run things the way they saw fit The letter ten a lesson early years the ceaselessly stood for more or less Sunil and too many teams at thank kind of laid back waited for the League office to provide direction or assistance in putting their team together. Dc United was proactive. They went out the sign their own players. They look for their own players. And when I saw that I recognize that someone from that Bruce Arena tree needed to be our leader and that was yeah. He brought in some great players. You guys. We're not lacking in town. Let's kind of run through here and I'm just going to throw out the first name that popped into my mind that had to be on the Mount Rushmore for the fire. The Pantheon and that's Peter Novak and I was shocked because we put out the fire fans would you have and maybe other people chiming in. But I didn't see that many Peter Novak's would he make it for you. Peter is he chewing. Yeah he is issue and he's the only one that is a shoe in and I've kind of done. This exercise myself A few weeks ago maybe a month ago the Chicago fire. Mount Rushmore. Thread came through my twitter. Feed without the Restrictions of players only in in you know spoiler alert my four not using that restriction included Peter Novak Philan- and shoots You know I think in some ways easy to overlook the owner Because he's out front and center every day but feel that you should only be on fire. Mount Rushmore if you're including non-players he should be on the League's Mount Rushmore. A almost by that definition he should be on the fires as well I had a fan actually are brandon kitchens who I had nominated to my fellow ring of fire members to be in the ring of Fire That unanimously voted him in and unfortunately ownership at the time after Philan- shoots Rescinded the induction of Brandon. Kitchens special a person. A Supporters Group leader A veteran of three tours of duty in the Middle East and Afghanistan and Lost his life actually once he was back home on a soccer field here and he wrote the stand and deliver Which is the creed for Section Eight and Chicago Fire Fans and so he would be in my personal ring a fire and Bob Bob. Bradley would be in that ring of fire as well but again players only Peter. Novak is the only one that I see should be a hands down. No doubt Mount Rushmore in. I have a list of a couple dozen others that should get some sort of consideration. They have some merit to be in. But Peter is the only one that I would fall on the sword for and say he had to be on it now. Chris. Armas crossovers is unanimous man. He was ten great years in Chicago. Five time best eleven like I think that's more than any other demon or every other team in Melissa's Rica mind has to be their unanimous. Yeah he he. Bmi My Mount Rushmore for sure. He's looking for player. Only as far as a unanimous that I could see how there is making an argument for. I would say that Chris because of his personality being kind of almost behind the scenes not as outgoing as Peter Novak. I think I could see how some people wouldn't recognize what Chris played he was. Actually one of the most underrated players in major league. Soccer and I would still claim to this day despite the all star nominations He still is an underrated player. he was the fires team captain after Peter. Novak mean those two Historically are the two captains of Chicago. Fire so yeah. Chris gets my check off as well on a players. Only Mount Rushmore. Peter Gimme Your Best Peter Novak Story SORTA represents why he is for you the one so to speak because there are people out there that are like Peter Novak Ninety eight fire. You know I'm new to the League. I wasn't born even maybe help. People connect with Peter Novak. Some of it is. It's a way from the field first off how he came to be on the Chicago fire. He wasn't recruited by wasn't initially recruited by me or by Bob Peter recruited mls. Peter Recruited Chicago. He saw he had a falling out with Munich. Eighteen sixty decided. He needed a new start on his career and so he researched the world of where the -cation in Florida new the United States. Any saw that. Mls started we saw Chicago was going to have a team. He knew about the Polish population in Chicago. So he reached out to us He was an early adopter of the Internet and and online communication and he reached out to To me to Bob to kneel shep messing representative in the early years and proactively came to us and I think that is something special when a player is reaching out to be with you in another Story About Peter's Actually Christmas. Chris would always say that. The training sessions were more difficult than the Games. Because a Peter Peter was fierce for Rochas in training sessions competitive to the nth degree and that carried over to every player on that team and then so by the time of the Games came. Chris said the Games were easy much less competitive than actually the training sessions. Backline man is going to be tough. We were debating before we jumped on. Here you have Lubos Kubik. Of course you want a couple of defender of the year awards you've got Carlos Bocanegra who came in and do the same thing before rolling on to Europe but I have a hard time in my mind separating. Cj Brown from this mount. Rushmore this Pantheon. Because of the longevity because of what he meant and we've talked a lot about on this show in these debates sort of the soul of clubs if you had to pick it offender who's it going to be of those three. Yes they gave Brown for the reasons you gave. And Jay is comparable in this discussion to Chris Armas. He also is off the field a bit of a laid-back reserved individual. He's not that outgoing self promoting a person that's going to get the limelight. But boy he onfield competitive hard worker. Toughest nails no-one League wanted to face and longevity and his commitment to the community serving on the Chicago Fireworks for Kids Foundation Board of directors For almost a generation. is working to communities Trait signing autographs. I one last one off a he was there. No one in the Chicago you soccer community hadn't met CJ Brown and loved them and Carlos Great Player But for years in Gone Lubos Kubik three years and Got Louis always my favorite player Abol time with the fire but Yeah his tenure was long enough. I need the nation right wider. Why is Lubos your favorite in part because we both have check heritage is more closely than mine and large unbelievable player and he played in the nineteen ninety world coverage Czechoslovakia as a playmaker and then he and his first year? Really is a fulltime defender. He wins MLS defender the year. Yeah it's his free. Kicks were amazing and his Really playing a sweeper role for the fire was special and he would so skillful on the ball You know you'd hold onto the ball longer than fan would be comfortable with but he never lost it in such a good guy Genuinely Good Guy So I'll always Lou Busch. What did it mean to you Peter to win that first in the first year against DC united no less? Yeah that was pretty special so quick story when I was making my tour of MLS teams and learning what to do. And what not to do? And I got to Redskin Park where DC united trained Kevin Payne introduced me Bruce Arena. I'd met first before He didn't remember me. Didn't know who I was. Kevin explained to him that this is Peter Wilt. He's going to be leading the new team in Chicago. Bruce Bruce Canoe tips his head back and it looks down his military veterans as Chicago away. It'll never work. I Love Bruce respect him but I I remember that and so you know whatever was a year and a couple of months later when we won the championship at the Rose Bowl over DC UNITED. It had maybe a little bit of extra specialness to it. What was the post game? Like I need the I always need to know these things. Come on you just be. Dc Your first year WHO's driving. Where was the party along the party? Go at the parts. I remember. We're actually at the Rose Bowl In maybe parts of it is memories of memories because you see photographs But on the field was just pure joy with the players the coaches Celebrating and fifty thousand plus fans in the stands a beautiful Sunday in holding that trophy that original. Mls Cup trophy was heavy. Solid Metal If you ever have a chance to hold up one of DC's first couple of trophies are Trophy Ninety eight up. Be prepared by both handles. And and don't let go because it'll hurt someone at the ball as it did in the locker room afterwards I was also real excited that in the locker room we're able to bring our staff in our staff was amazing. You know people always remember the team on the field but that year we had so many young talented people that would go on to become general managers directors of business operations Big Pr people all this in the front office staff and young all twenty. Somethings maybe a few thirtysomethings in the locker room. There's thirty of US Staff who on game? They don't normally get to us. Celebrate drink champagne have fun and just going crazy and someone. I don't know who dropped the MLS Cup trophy and it landed pearls ahead of one of our female staff members and cut knocked her to the ground. She was okay but stunned for a little bit. I think it's safe to say by the end of the night. The party is was just back at the team hotel. There were a lot of people worse. Shall we say stunned as well glad? Choose all right but Peter before we get to number four. A lot of discussion has gone into. Who was the best fire team? Of all time ninety eight they won them lescot but in two thousand two thousand and three they both got. Mosca they one. Us Open Cups in your mind. What was the best squad? Yeah Ninety eight also when the open up by the way So that was the double. And you're right everyone. Not Many people think ninety eight is the best team all time that the fires best team was two thousand It was essentially the ninety eighteen. Plus you add creased start car Dima Kovalenko DaMarcus Beasley Carlos. Bocanegra and Josh will for the whole year. Ninety eight. Josh came in towards the end but he developed an age. The bit so that two thousand team should that have lost? Mls tough when. I'm being a little bit bitter. I'll say Paul Tamburrino. The referee that one Tony all really cost at. He had a great game one of the Best Games ever by a goalkeeper albeit. We did hit a lot of Adam balls but he played really well. It was one of three rings. Tony has taken off my fingers in his career. He beat Minnesota Thunder in the Nineteen Ninety. Five USSL championship which was the last pro. Gay outdoor game in America played before. Mos started he The fire in two thousand. Mls Cup and then two thousand four also with Kansas City. They beat the fire in the open. Cup final. Tell me how you feel as you go through that because when I was looking back at the history and sometimes from for me and I think for others it can be easy to forget about the relative dominance of the fire at that time we always talk about DC and their first dynasty. And and what they mean in this league. Your fire teams. Bob's fire teams and then onto sort of different management different players. When you had an opportunity to be that dynasty to be on the same footing as DC united in just a finals didn't quite go your way at least. Mls Cup wise. Is there any sort of regret about that? Do you ever think man people should just remember these fire teams a little different a little bit when I traded Bob to the metrostars at his request after two thousand two We had a real good heart to heart conversation about the move I wanted to stay and He wanted to go back home and I totally understood that and You know in the conversation He he told me that he he regrets that we didn't win a couple one or two more. Mls Cups so we really should have won a one or two more. And I think he's right but whenever you look back at something like that you have to remember. It goes both ways. You can argue that Dc United should have won the ninety eight analyst Cup They were very good team. You know arguably better than us. The fire did not win the supporters. Shield Ninety Ache We got hi. I'm a well coached and we played smart and and be a really good team October Twenty Fifth Nineteen Ninety eight two thousand three which was actually moving into the Dave Sarachan era. We won a when supporter sealed in the Open Cup. But we all say we blew that Amoco. Mls Cup which is maybe a little bit harsh but anti was sick. Very sick Up All night with the flu the night before and it showed in his game We kind of lost concentration after getting back in the game on a goal and then gave one back to land and late So that one. I feel we should have one yet. Two thousand we should have one But maybe some of the Oakland Cups as well The the game at Giants Stadium Open Cup Championship in O-3 Baba's coaching. The Metrostars Davis coaching us. We want on Damani Ralph's goal. That you know the bulk of the play. Maybe New York should've won that game but they didn't score a goal and we did that soccer. That is soccer. Let's get your fourth year. I think we have and correct me if I'm wrong Peter. Novak we have CJ Brown. We have Chris Armas and now you have a laundry list of guys who could and maybe should be there. They'll need to go to. We kind of went through Boca. We kind of went through Kubeck. You've got demarcus you've got Mike McGee maybe Wolf Thornton Steiger Blanco Qua- and then Rozov so big. One two is still the leading score who you put number four Peter on the Chicago. Fire Mount Rushmore. Here it's a tough one and you know to that. I WanNa make sure that we talk about are the all time leading goal score and its entourage. And the all time best goalkeeper Zach Thornton that would look imposing on that note and in those titles in the early years without him. So I'M GONNA put Zach Thornton. Mount Rushmore back. We're going to need some extra stone from Italy or something like that. You're adding exactly all right. Peter will president. Gm those early years of the fire before we let you go Peter. I'm curious what you're up to now. I know you were doing some work with you with Ford Madison before that building a wildly entertaining club and squad. What's going on now in your life at the moment my position with us. L. IS ON PAUSE FROM CLEANING OUT MY BASEMENT. Reliable memories down there When you sell starts up back up with games I'll be back to assisting. New Markets and existing teams develop their supporters culture. That sounds awesome. You sound like the right way to do it so much. Peter for reminiscent a little bit with US share in. Your Glory. Years the fire and we'll try to see. I mean I guess kiss. We can't really go against Peter with our Mount Rushmore. Maybe we'll debate that when we get off. Thank you guys big. Thanks to Peter Wilt for joining us. That's an at and T. Call to the field will Reminiscing on a team that some people may not remember the glory years from you. Remember though doyle mistake you made a funny face when we were talking about that. Open Cup final. Win Against Bob Bradley in the Metrostars. Do not two thousand three. I remember that game Not Fun at all. 'cause they were about three thousand of us in the stands at seventy thousand seat giants stadium. It was like miserable late October night and it was just it was it was a cup final it was a come final and there was nobody there just like it made you despair especially when as Metrostars Fan They played pretty awful soccer. That game and I'm not sure either team deserves to win. But of course Metro Lost. And you know it was kind of bittersweet for me because it is. Peter said it was Damani Ralph. Who got the goal Dining Yukon guy so? I was like weirdly happy but not at all. It was but just to juxtapose that giant stadium soccer experience with the one. I had had nine years before with Italy versus Ireland and the one I would have a few years later with with Beckham. Game in two thousand seven It was weird in A. I think it speaks a lot to. I wish I had a better way to explain about. It speaks a lot to like how far the League in the fan base is came specifically in that two thousand six to twenty ten era when Emma has really started finding itself recovering from the contraction of the Florida teams and expansion started happening in expansion. Not just for expansion sake but really targeted You know we saw what happened in Toronto Seattle than everybody forgets about Philly but what the sun's offended but yeah that that two thousand three. Us Open Cup was a low point. A lot of ways chance we have to have the oil rigs guessing low points. Ceylan car talk about. Mls Cup we definitely do it. let's try to settle this. Here is Peter. When Zach Thornton? I think it's a great call but I think a lot of people are going to disagree. Do we have any disagreement on the top three can we settle? Novak Armas and CJ Brown is that settled gas nodding charleen in doyle without good about that. Okay so number. Four Anybody Zach Thornton or they're different names Charlie. You're shaking your head. Yeah I think Zach. Thornton was an incredible pro. One of the for me the most recognizable goalies in mls especially during his time. I mean big enforcer. Huge just massive Could I mean he won those contests when you shoot the fastest hardest thorn? He could launch those goal. Kicks all the way to the opposing. Six Yard box. He's one of the most recognizable. Chicago fire players. But I think when you're talking about Pantheon the top of the top you have to think automic Blanco. I mean. He was the reason they had their first ever Jersey sponsor. In best buy it was him. You had the Beckham signing and then Chicago fire splashed in their own way and they they signed CUAUHTEMOC BLANCO. But it was the way he played. He was a global superstar but with Mexico. He was the guy that we all hated because he could produce moments of magic and he was never gonNa beat with speed and pace. It was more trickery it was. It was unbalancing defenders by you know. Get taking the right angle getting you wrong-footed and then curling it. A ball set pieces. He had he led the team in assists In two thousand eight belief that was as best as one best eleven year but it wasn't that he was blown away with performances. It was more what he meant to. The company meant to the fans. He how he pulled that all the Latinos in that area to the stadium. It was one of those players that doesn't come along too often and I think for that reason he was able to pack stadiums. And beyond the Pantheon. What are you waiting baby? He didn't win anything but he won the hearts of many very very poetic from Charley Right. He's impossible to forget right. I mean this is sort of the era that I came in and became obsessed with them. A lesson you remember the bunny hops but maybe more than that I remember the run-up to free kicks just like this dislike anticipation moment. It takes forever. It takes forever. It takes forever. It takes forever magic. You'll Kaelin talks about. How changed the club? And all that and also Kaelin has got some good Zach Thornton stories by the way as well. I think caused a great show. I'm wondering how Antero Zoff hasn't really got as much love as I. Maybe would have expected him to given what he meant to those early championship teams and how many goals he scored started all three. Mls COPS for the team as well as the win. In Ninety eight all time leading goalscorer in the club's history and was there from ninety eight through that what we're talking about this period of success for Chicago. Cj didn't start all the MLS Cups Thornton and armistead so Roz offs in that conversation. And I think for me I love pure goalscorers. Your finishers and he was that player. Wasn't always buildup or creativity or floating out wide. It was being deadly in the box and didn't have a twenty five goal season doesn't get put up there but ended his career as a top. What was he three at the time? All Time on the all time molest goalless when Arna do after that under Bob Bradley hard to do so I think on Onta- Razov goes on that list. He's part of the ring of fire leading goalscorer still now for the club and it's those are not easy things to find so. I put him on that list. I think Thornton's a good shout for what he did for the club that consistency best goalkeeper of all time. I understand what Charlie saying you know four or tem time period. He was the face of the team and from when Roz off left for example and the team was no longer good till now he was probably the best face that they had and one of the best periods that they had so. I understand the shout there but I think it's on and they were all. They were like almost. That was an almost team like they got to the conference. Finals couldn't get over the hump. They had a ton of great players. Couldn't get over the hump. Qua- was the big one for them. Couldn't get over the Hump. You have to also mention here but before we kind of get doyle maybe settle this thing for us. I mean bashing Swinestein Iger legend. He's not going to get close because he's not even close. Mike mcgeehan an MVP. Somebody's Mike McGee. Had the single most magical year like that was his only double digit scoring year. He won MVP. He was he was awesome. He's not really in the discussion here. But if there's like a pantheon of all time great fire seasons he's like near the top team that didn't even make the playoffs. And you have all these different spots. And obviously it's the Bob Bradley Observation Deck Frank Lopez hasn't really got a shot here. He just didn't play long enough but for the club overall. He has such a big spots. Honor him some way. This show longtime soldiers for this club because the problem is CJ Armas are the longtime guys and the great guys so they none of these guys are GonNa get on there. But Wroclaw's Logan Pause. Jesse Marshon Gonzales cigars. Were guys that just where around forever you could say Jesse probably or Ralph. Maybe was the elite at the levels at times of that group. And doing I'm Charlie mentioned it but Logan Pause literally over two hundred appearances like therefore ever consistent starter but when you have si Jiang and arms. It's impossible but those guys in the League which is a big number. I mean two hundred ninety six appearances. You gotta be all Pantheon Toil. You're going to hear I mean I'll I'll defer I'll defer to Peter will he's Zack's exact I'm not I'm not I'm not upset if if it's Roz off thorn or Blanco. Yeah because I think that you have a fair argument for each one. I think is wonderful. Yeah I don't think we can decide this if we're all I agree. I don't feel like I felt a responsibility to educate Charlie and like at. What point are we going to learn that twitter poll twitter polls are just popularity contests while we knew it was? Let's see we have to call Kaelin car and we have to see what Kale and says later on going on this week vote. Let's by the way Kaelin car. Right now is He's a little busier. We would call him. He's in the middle of the kick around live. That's every week weekdays at noon on twitter so right now it's a killing car and Stephen Keel and tomorrow is Caitlin Davis tune into that on twitter at noon every single day. Call up also premiering every Tuesday. So get that tomorrow and guess what. Tj Sabang is the guest this week from the fire And then also this week is. Mos Unites to inspire kids in. Charleena are doing our best to inspire our own kids every single day. I don't know how you're doing charlie but I'm seemingly suffering. I'm just basically trying to hide new toys and reintroduce them to him every chance. I get but Amazon Dot Com as more for you on how to educate motivate kids with your educational in fitness wellness activities. Should we get to the Seattle sounders will call Kaelin? We'll put the winning this thing. Is We want your favorite democracy? Yes I am I let her. We had A. We won't get all but we're GONNA keep them opening curly. That's that's slander. And you know a court. Zoom Court shall be convened at a later date may twitter. Mount Rushmore polling. A national holiday. We do it now. I'm fine with it. I don't WanNa work all right. Let's get Brad Evans. He is on the line now. It's called the Field Brad. Welcome extra time while some guys. Brad is screaming in the background definitely. Not My kids is eastern. Let's see I'm trying to determine translate through the door I'm guessing. Yeah he doesn't like what's being served for lunch I'll get outta here and then Also I feel bad about having the worst mustache in the group proud. We're trying to do Mount Rushmore. For these sounders. I personally believe that there are just two locks to guys that are absolutely have to be there before I reveal mine. Who would be your locks? So I've got ozzy is number one for sure I've got NICO WITHOUT NICO. We have no championships. I've got Chad Marshall. He's on to Mount Rushmore. I'd I don't think people remember that. He's he was here from two thousand fourteen until twenty nineteen so he was here for quite a while almost along some guys careers. And he was a proven defender And then I've got Steph in the back just longevity and what he's been able to do you know we've been watching all these old games and so I've got to watch stuff now and you forget about when you're playing with a guy but the routine saves that he now makes it wasn't making before you just make it look so easy and so from that respect those are my four For the sounders. Mount Rushmore as right. Now what are you reading? There was that yeah. I think that was that was pretty much in order what I had written down You know I thought about this last night and as soon as you guys popped up a couple of weeks ago with this sort of concept of kind of my brain rolling You know but I've got a lot of interchanging to with with a couple of guys for certain circumstances so I'm going to. I'm going to be a wild card here. I'm going to different direction one. We didn't plan for where these act. If you never gets hurt oh easily up there. It's easily the thing is if Steve is healthy and he stays he's up but if Steve is healthy and he leaves after three years then. He's not on my Mount Rushmore. We have a lot of fans who maybe came to the League in the last couple years. And didn't I don't know really? Who Steve Zakarani was. You played with them for a couple of years like give us give us the rundown of what. Steve Zakarani was before that devastating injury crazy. I mean a guy who you know. We had a call the other day with Darlington and Darlington even said from from his Akron. Days that Even D. looked at him and said this guy's next level and that's who I want to be. So if you have darling to be looking at a guy saying I wanNA emulate this guy I want. I want to do what he's doing. That kind of gives you perspective on what type of player Steve was. He was well ahead of its time spent his youth career at Arsenal and then went to Akron. And and kind of reinvented himself. There and kind of took off from day one with the sounders. The Sky was the limit for him. you know when we played big teams European teams. Their players were giving him a pat on the back so If you get a chance to dig into the archives I'd highly recommend it You know you can watch highlights or one thing but to watch Steve in a game and how he was able to isolate and basically just ruined guys careers. He ruin. Evan Brown's career a guy who won a national championship. I wake forest. Evan came to the team and had to play against every single day. And I remember specifically Schmitz was saying something on the sideline. You gotTA stop. Him and Evan was like you come out here and try to stop nope nobody can do. This guys look stupid so unfortunate. But you know he's such a good guy and You know sad to have lost that that kind of career too early Brad. What would it take for Jordan Morris to leap into that Mount Rushmore? Who COMES OFF Yeah hope man that stop fighting. Jim Jordan need another guy who needs to stay here for another three or four years Jordan when I look at Mount Rushmore is. It's not really young guys for me. It's it's guys who are tried and true who have been through thick and thin. Jordan's been very lucky to have been extremely successful seasons and then you know. He lost the season due to injuries. So I give them a couple. You know two or three more years and I think he's interchangeable with Chad at this point You know if Jordan wins another championship. I think it's undeniable that he goes up there And even a supporters shield You know but in terms of impact you know. Ozzie has to be on there for sure. It's a lock no matter what happens throughout the history of the sounders Nico also because he changed the course of winning championships. And you'll always remember that Chad because of his MLS wherewithal But I think that that one can kind of waver back and forth Jordan decides to stay but I think Christians in that conversation too. I think Christians right up there with Jordan the only reason Jordan will get the nod is because he the hometown hero But we forget that Christian also spent four years or three years at U. Dub So you know. He's a bit of a of of the fan favorite hometown in that respect too. I'm GonNa try and direct you in a specific place but casually what is the best squad in Seattle sounders history? I mean if we had a real chance to win a treble in two thousand fourteen We win the Open Cup in in Philly and then you know when the Supporters Shield at home and if you're looking at pure talent an and wins I think of that goes down as the best team You know in Steve Zach. Alana's brain is a is a vault in him and I do a podcast here and he always goes back to twenty thirteen and that one gets lost in my head. I think the sour taste of losing in Portland in the playoffs and how that season ended. But we've watched a couple of games. Now that have been really really good games and that team was was a really good team as well. So my brand after being here for so long has to kind of look at past teams. But still for me. I go back to twenty fourteen when in a supporter. Shield is is really something special Femi- Charlie. I was lowering him. I was working on it. Okay don't kill my run-up it's weird. You Miss Fourteen best team supporter shield double and it feels like you in your Mount Rushmore. You may have left out a couple of names that are on that twenty fourteen team like maybe a guy named Clinton Mc and as Charlie put it probably the best player in the region if not the league and overcoming Martin's at even that out. Yeah I think you know we recently just did a best eleven for the sounders and you know both those guys are on there for the past ten years and they were. They made massive impacts on the team. But you know I think the four guys that I chose Bleed sounders through and through I think Oba's time was too short to say that he goes on the mount. Rushmore and Clinton was another guy. I had that was interchangeable for me. Between him and Steph Both guys made massive impacts and got here at about the same time but steps longevity now has kind of propelled him to my Mount Rushmore lists but clint's undeniable impact on American soccer. And what he did for the sounders to downsize. You'll have to go back to the cup you know like. Unfortunately Clint wasn't able to play whereas Steph had the defining moment that match. I WANNA go back the Alonzo. Because we've done our all lows team on extra time and the Alonzo was straight into the all load team which is players that you hate if you are on their team or they're not your player but you'll love if they are. Your player and Ozzy is the definition of that. GimMe behind the scenes with Ozzy as a competitor on the training field. As person when you're actually on his team Number One. He's he's the guy you want to go to battle with That's undeniable so when you're talking about teammates Number One he put the Jersey before everything. And what you want out of a number six is that he protects everyone on the fields and he did that every single game no matter if he likes you or not. He was always in the referees face. He was always in the opponent's face. he set the tone for the sounders for you know a decade and you cannot say that about a lot of guys in this league Maybe look at Kyle Kyle. Beckerman is the only other guy that I look at that kind of sits in that realm of players for me so Ozzy number will on was awesome in the locker room You know he was. I wanted to joke around. And you know he and I had a very good relationship because we were here from day one together and kind of started and kick off this sounders. Mls Central Midfield partnership so we had this mutual respect from day one that was undeniable But ultimately a family man who wasn't going to go out ever after games he went straight to his room. You didn't hang out in bars. You never went out at night So from that respect he was the ultimate pro and. I can't say enough about Ozzy as you know he's he's a top ten an MLS Alzheimer for me. What what's your first memory of Ozzy? Because I remember kind of not knowing who this guy was like. This is going to be a good signing. And you'd remembered him from his battery days and I think I watched him in the Open Cup. This guy's a monster or maybe I was down at one of the preseason tournaments. What was your first experience with them. The Light Bulb going off like oh. Crap is legit. They'll first experience was actually with the crew so we did a preseason in Southern California. Ziggy brought him in as a triallist And ziggy had a connection with the Charleston. Battery coach and Ozzy wasn't the right fit at the time because we had myself BC. Brian Carroll Stephanie Miller on a lot of veteran guys sprinkled in with two young guys so know that Zig Saul something in him early and sorted we I mean. He came in straight into practice. You know it was studs up from minute one. He didn't care if he was around that that's just it is DNA right so You know and then he goes and spends a season a Charleston than ziggy shoots him straight into sounders training and he was a starter from minute one and he was starting group from what. I don't think there was ever a question. When ziggy brought him in that it was going to be his guy And that's Schnitzer's type of player to is that hard nosed wearing the crests above everything else so from that respects you know salt solve him extremely early on. Actually I gotTA taste before he was even in. Mls You alluded to both the legendary coaches in Seattle history there. So let's put you on the spot. Once again. Ziggy Schmidt came from Columbus. We've put him on our Columbus crew observation deck. Because of what he did there built Seattle won. A sport didn't win. Mls Cup Schmeltzer has now taken over in one to mls cups. Which is the one coach for Seattle? Sounders I think you gotTa Throw Schmidt's obviously as you could tell them. A big longevity guy An Schmitz's obviously been here since minute. One and so he. He bleeds sounders through and through. Ziggy did but you're talking about long-term That always resonates with. I played for one club. Soccer team growing up played for once. You Know University played nine years here for the sounders so that kind of plays true into my heart even had ziggy before definitely deserves to be on Columbus's observation deck. I think they would love to share times together on on the observation deck for Seattle. But if I had to pick one right now going Schmitz you alluded to the two championships but zig also won four open cups. So that's that's undeniable is well not not hardly any coaches can say that they've done that so that's tough for me but I'll go with Schmidt's based on previous sounders experiences. Well his ask. Can we do like overdue on the Rushmore? Could we just put them together? And like you just go os produce. Instead of having a mother played you. Could you talk about playing with those two up top and just compared to your previous years in the league and and then when they were gone just how dynamic they were and how I think for your for your job in positional play? It made it that much easier for you. Yeah take we. We talk about it to this day. It was like watching a video game at times. There were two guys on the field and the rest were basically just in support to get the ball to those guys and do what? They need to do That twenty fourteen year was was crazy. Special In in training it was it was almost too easy because the stuff that they did in training really translated in a game. And you don't see that very often. I think you see a lot of players try stuff in training but when they get two games that Kinda back off and they and they get back to square one. These guys would try stuff and training. That was ridiculous and then they would go and do it in Games And it really struck fear into opponents eyes and made it easy for everyone behind them to to play You know that was the first year that I kind of bounced around positionally from you know right right mid left mid kind of bounce around everywhere so I got to see and run the gamut on on multiple games in situations so I go down this list. I've got Zack. Scott as a as a possible guy that goes on. The Rushmore was amazing Roger because he's just so entrenched in Seattle culture here. I put myself on their Also as as an alternate just because long longevity I've got clint And then I've got Adrienne on their also because without him. This whole thing doesn't happen but Adrian and dig and those guys are what saw Clinton Oba together and made it work so it was very. I mean you got to play with Clinton as well just somehow created space for himself that no other players saw and Oba Oboe Fed off. That is what training stories between the two and he bust up. I mean yeah I mean Clinton had bus stops with everyone. I mean. That's not abnormal with and that's just no that's part of his DNA when what made him fiery and feisty whether it was the referee and opposing coach. You know an opposing fan even could get him. Fired up You Know Clint would get into it with multiple guys at training. Damian low I remember getting into it You know even Eddie at some points. Those guys were boys but Eddie Eddie and Clint would you know. Throw down a little bit in training. Get fiery That's being a competitor right and ultimately when you have those situations in players know that they got your backing games and what goes on at training you know ultimately if you can handle it in the right way it doesn't really matter makes you that much more feisty over never went into the weight room. I'll tell you that much. I never saw the guy in the waiver it was insane and do was the most cut strongest guy on the field on who. I saw him do two exercises something with a band around his knee and that was it. You never lifted away. Never did a poll up That really struck out to me. Sounds like they've got. These guys are over. Have a similar scene workout. We just drive Maserati and talking Charlotte's killing me. Who'S JERSEY? Are you wearing whose kids that he had the reveal? If you're not on Youtube he's definitely put that on. We knew it was. It was the two has reduced. Although I thought about pulling out the Mike Procedo it was the original remember early days covering Sporting Kansas City. Mike Hussey was a nightmare back. The one the thing that's going through my mind right now after you reminisce on on Clint and we see the Jersey and its goals and all that. But it's the Open Cup. It's the tearing up of the card. It's the Brouhaha. Can you just is what you help us? Take US inside that. Just a little bit please. That was the red card massacre man. that was a disaster so actually started out okay and looking back on it. That was probably one of the worst decisions. Ziggy made. Play in those two guys in that Game Clinton and Oba Oba like had it evasion of his growing in that game. I got a red card early on Clinton got a red card light. It was just a disaster. And you're and you're playing at home at star fired if you've never experienced that field. It is literally a postage stamp and the worst turf ever. We had great success there. Because we're just used to play on turf right so teams would come in and just be Shell. Shock fans are sitting on the field basically And it was just it was just all around bad And I got a red card so I went into the locker room and watch the game on a stream so I didn't really understand what was going on until a second camera was kinda trying to focus in on Clinton and then I saw somebody tearing up a card and I couldn't believe it and I knew what was coming. He's marching through that door. He actually he actually had a smile on his face in. Where am I right now? What is going on and then Oba comes in on a stretcher and this I think Mike Zero got a Red Card. That game or something. It was just an absolute disaster but home it was. It was pretty crazy. I didn't even think about the wrinkle of your in the locker room. Having been red-carded you see. Clint gets red-carded and he's going to come in the locker room. Half of me would want to sit there and just see what happens. The other half is like I'm hiding in that stall right over there. I'm out of the way Bryant. Last ones are anger Sorry it gets. It gets awkward on these streams. All right now is he does he. This happens on CNN. To all right. I JUST GONNA call him out for no reason really conscious about that crappy story that I think we all set. Oh that really missed the mark Brad again. I think we've lost you man. Thank you so much for joining us. All right so brad helped us out a little bit there. I think he I think he's spot on. We give them you know. I don't WanNa make things more awkward than it already is between me and Brad at this point with all the freezing knows I still in my skin's crawling still from that That's why had Ozzie and Nicholas Darrow. As my four. Sherlock put them down and then debate the rest of them where he goes in. Are there other morlocks than that am? I am discounting the number of locks here but it feels to me like it's too and then figured I think now I think Stephan Prize a lock at this point. He's got like she's been there six years. Now he's been a top three goalkeeper literally every one of those years and he made the defining play in sounders history. He made the greatest saving. Mls history. He's not. He's on Mount Rushmore. He's he's a lock. I'm with you doing. I think I think he's a lock. But the first two person who crosses from two thousand fourteen shield to twenty nineteen. I'm Alaska of these conversations in two thousand nineteen most Nico. Wasn't there in twenty fourteen ozzy as well in nineteen and he'll have more okay fourth. You're saying Dempsey that's where you're going. Charleen Bowen Dempsey. I'm going Dempsey. You knew he would because he's a Beckham Qua- Dempsey man. You wait wait. Why are we not going with chat? Marshall is it is it because we think is because we think Brad is wrong or was it because there is a technicality. Because I'm confused David. I'm confused I love life. I felt we were only allowed to pick players for one team and we already have Chad Marshall Columbus Iraq we could couldn't put D. Rowe on both Houston oils and this is soccer. Rules are arbitrary. They are guidelines that we exist within some time off. But if you're a true layer you know how to handle things when you need them when you don't we said coaching didn't count. And we put Ben Olsen and everyone knows that part of that was because of coaching. We didn't put zero in because he was a hair here or there. Chad Marshall the best centre-back mls. He was the reason. Roman Torres is getting mentioned on twitter for this because of his partnership he molest Cup without taking your shot many because of him and was there in two thousand fourteen. Chad Marshall deserves to be on this and it doesn't get taken away. Because he was on the crew one as well we said that as a guideline not as a rule no but we we talked about beforehand that John Marshall is going on Columbus and he was not going to go on Seattle native Colombian. We say we dated. We said that Charlie and I are correct. Yes I'm GonNa add myself on that side. That's three against one guy who doesn't pay attention to anything that happens. Charlie who's out here doing penalty kick shootout and I don't even know if Matt Has Internet to be able to communicate with people in his little dungeon. What doesn't make sense on the wrong side of this? One guys are all liars. So hoosier cabinet as Chad. Marsh as great as he is eliminated from contention for sounders. Mount Rushmore because he is already part of Columbus Mount Rushmore. He's already got so who then jumps in we have. We have three. Because I'm with you on the FRY one as well as the iconic moment bridges the gaps is going to be there even longer. So you gotta give them the future by the way also agree with Brad Evans on Schnitzer. Sigi got crew. We know where he stands in the history of the sounders. It's a he's he's right up there but Schmitz gets it for this one. So who's the fourth taken taking Chad Marshall out of your mouth Dave? Do you have another case to be made you jumping into the Google dot com now to try to figure this thing out you of you respond. And then I'm going to pick someone else just to make it harder and Fan Hong because he has also all you of you begin solace then okay. Two thousand eleven newcomer of the year. No I'M GONNA I'M GONNA Second. Charlie's shout for Clint Dempsey It's not just that he was great. It's that he. He represented something different in terms of how the League was going to do business And that was enlarged heart of because of who the sounders had become by that point in. Clint was the right guy at the right time. And he was a huge part of that best team He technically was you know. One Twenty Sixteen Mls COP even though he wasn't on the field for it but he came back from that heart abnormality and still played pretty well for a year Clint Dempsey's a legend. And for as well. Yeah for analyst. Risk sounders legend started the whole U s national team. Mainstay the top guy. I'M GONNA come back down and I'm still going to produce and play at the national team level so he's gotTa be number four time. There was a time in two thousand fourteen. When you could claim that Obafemi Martins was the best player non major league soccer not in Concha calf but in this entire hemisphere of the world. I don't know that that's even possible with any other player in MLS history. It was between him and Darwin. Quinn can Tarot Neymar had already left and gone to Europe. There was no one in Argentina that was at that Teva has level whatever producing the new new. You're going to do this. You could argue. That Obafemi Martins them asked player in the region. He was on a level with Vinko when Drinko is in the League and now we all go vella and Joseph and all that oboe was off the charts good as a player as well as productive came off. The bench won an Open Cup because he wasn't gonNA play in Philly and it was like. Oh we'll just throw OBA on and we'll win this championship. Because that's what happens when you're the best player on the field in the league onto acquainted stocks but for clint he missed only mls coup- his team won while he was there. He missed the goal in literally every playoff game he ever played sorry. I missed the how wins record as the leading score. Dahl playoffs. I'm sorry but if you're thinking sounders and you're going between Deuce and what represents the sounders more I think it's Deuce Deuce and he represented. He represented the city in the World Cup. Incredible it's deuce. You may play sixteen but he got up on that day after they won in the parade and he dropped Portland. So I think it was gonNA be Stephen. It's done. It's Clint Dempsey. We've named are four for the Seattle. Sounders you start with Ozzy Alonzo you gotTa Nico Darrel Stephens Fry and then Clint Dempsey. All right. We Got. I want quick predictions if we do this show again. In three years Jordan Morris on this Mount Rushmore ahead of flint if instill in Seattle and yes dill banging goals and they won a championship or to. Yes I think he just. I agree to Ivo that are. I bet that Cristian Roldan ends up on this before John. Morris overjoyed take four one two zero six zero extra time unless soccer dot com. Let us know if you have any thoughts on our fire or Seattle. Mount Rushmore Orlando City. 'cause there to come on. Thursday that is the roast of Orlando City. I mean they're Mount Rushmore. Sorry can we do one more? Yeah I guess. A number Guest Charlie get so excited. He doesn't get anything tally taking. I'm taking number five because Takito turned we've had Tuxedo for five years starting today and he has been happy birthday. Takito and that is because it is. Fc Dallas. I like that is so we'll just have Louisa muzy on an avenue the whole thing. This is a good one. We got some good male here. I don't think we're going to get to it right now. But we'll throw JD IN ORLANDO. He says when you guys GONNA DO Orlando City Mount. Rushmore will have your answer. Jd Thursday win. Y'All do it. Here's some names of people who should definitely beyond that. In his opinion Phil Rawlins the original owner. Who brought the franchise from Austin TX ORLANDO AND GOT ORLANDO? Phil can't be on it because it's players only is Adrian Heath. Well it can't be on it but that is good show he wants championships and USO and ca-car is the other ones for the four spot. Dom Dwyer Tally Hall Kevin Malino. Kara `learn non-interest Brek Shea Heathrow on here at the very end. I don't know how to make of that one but that should be a really really fun one. That's it for us big. Thank you to Brad Evans for helping us with Seattle Way. Do we determine the team is a two thousand fourteen? Is that it yet. Twenty fourteen okay. I'm fine with that one. Big thanks to all right because overpaying comes to let it go let it go. Thank you to Peter Wilt as well and thank you guys will see everybody on Thursday. Enjoy your week everybody. Stay safe stay sane.

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Barstool Rundown - November 5, 2019

Barstool Rundown

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Barstool Rundown - November 5, 2019

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I had one of the luckiest finishers of had in a long time. I mean you can't really the over going back in time would you reach me I see retreat. The cat bro largely so bad. Yeah you're right. I'm in the middle of a run. I I the reason I think it works is because I retreat every time. Someone does that to me but fifth street going back. If you saw it would you. Yes you would have as middle sailing all because I knew he was on the other sauce jinx off going well that was real. Yeah those extra would have been the exact same conversation like having the trouble is watching the game. I wasn't one behind. You would've lake come up with their own version of the cat. Rather take whatever trouble when they dominated the entire first half and somehow it went in the locker room down a point yes yes was really bad. So the what I said is correct from gambling perspective when they got called for that penalty that gave them the automatic first. I down if I was on the other side of that. That team goes and scores a thousand percent of the time. You don't score when you get a bailout. Yes and converting the fourth ten. Yes that's when you should was going to. I thought it was GONNA fumble. I just know the facts are cat. Cat Him on the field ran around on the field. Cat Luck loss treated it. I like the cats I fucked up just like the cat. The CAQ lack happened to be black. If the county three fucking significant thing day it happened the first quarter like if it happened like with two minutes to go in the fourth game now didn't curse Rutto jets-giants you still. Yeah I'm going to tell you I have. I Have Joe Raising Jimmy my doorman today today he said Hey when I came out to walk sons he did you. Did you hear about the cat in the end zone at at the meadowlands. He's like so may say that it's been in the end no more than the jets. It's pretty good doorman. Eleven a good one on US football too. Football knows Daniel. Jones internal clock is like half a second off. He do you know what he is. He's a half a second off. When you call own ally manning like a couple of the chromosomes didn't fully match like his getting rid of it's like just a tattoo and the turnovers dating turnovers? You feel like you jump the gun on him. I never ever shut off. I look. I was Agai- against him in the draft. After the bucks game I was sold so so sold. He's one of those classic quarterback lines. You guys still the giants offense Salaam really stinks. You're like in either. I liked their salaries. I Will Hernandez named named because by the way I wanNA fight on play because a tweet it out and I should put the whole play. I didn't WANNA get. DC May like booger said he had no word Ordina throw to in fucking Saquon was wide. Open the Quan Saquon Kwan. Whatever and like it would have been rick like the defenders like ten fifteen yards away from him your film guys some he would like? Where was I saw that picture? You didn't really see like where Daniel Jones what like sometimes wide open but you know it was just like hit him on the run a linebacker that's meant to close on him from fifteen yards away and linebackers at the first down line the tweet it would have been like the out of the corner. Anyone there like two linebackers one was apple all century away. I love the guy in the middle was over either way. Jones is the perfect quarterback that that that passing through Golden Tate. When they shut down here break that played out? It should go get up go. Let's even sure I do the whole play. But it's like I mean he's about to get caught a pop three here to seal Jones right. Yeah yeah I know what I mean like. Listen don't feels nice clothes on them. Get out they get out of here. Yeah there there's no one wanted right there he would race of the corner where you would have gotten a first down at least inject Steve. I'm GonNa say we have. How do we get that play? I'm GonNa say something Nice about ten on Jones. His spiral is beautiful. That that great ball. There's nothing better than it reminds me of old Steve Sable. NFL films when they have the corner shot he's ever do in the ball. Perfect spiral come. I'm in like you could see the stadium in the background. That's my favorite shot in football. But he had dinner. Just fumbles the ball. He just gives it away. Angels number do you. Are you staying you of all people. You congratulated yourself after the books. When I knew it I watch so there's going to be Johnny Manziel ends up pro bowl a thing? Data Joe is going to be very a single voice in his life. Maybe like too many too many going to the gap too much nick foles name starter. Oh agree on what he can do. How much gartner needed to win to keep that? What's their record? The Jackson five last four and five is there's going to be nine and seven. AFC team that will get in so they they have a chance here and I just think because they have so much money nick foles. Yeah and if Nick foles does well Gardner did well enough for long enough that you could basically end the season and trade one of the value. One they've lost the last two rights and they got killed the other week. Do you think if they won those two they keep them. Yes right hot at least a different story. How how much are you? Is it like one of those situations you know when when when like a fan will be like. My favorite team is the steelers in anyone's playing the ravens is your favorite team the Patriots and then the Jaguars now you want nick. Foles to Nick foles just on a human love Philly guy for Nick foles because you WANNA stick it to snow as affiliate Guy Right. He's an idiot but he's affiliate but if you bills I you want it on a human love you want anybody who has wronged. I root for you look that. Stick it to Ronin Smitty so badly I don't even know what necessarily those two guys. It is like the twitter filling people. He loves DAVE IF THE PATRIOTS CAN'T WIN The second best scenario for Davis for Nick Foles to win a super bowl with the jags hours. You could just follow me the arena because of anything. Nothing I have against Philadelphia the love I have Nick foles get you love him so much that it turned motivated by hate and spies in order. You managed better eater you hate philly trash and you want to see them. I love Philly and I'm glad to be considered their captain This is a big story right now. Oh my Francesa far gate. So the Daily News reporting they ripped ask during the show. He is vehemently that I. I have listened to his denial as well as the tape. I understand how work they put into this especially NFL coaches but when you cannot function I think what he says makes sense. It's not live. So why would he put the Fart also he he does not even break stride at all as far as you would move you. A change would pause chair Mike. It's a chair. It's a something but in a bigger story he killed them yet. So when was the first show yesterday and today headlined the Daily News. You're walking brain on your shoulders. Daily forty no you did. Why do you think he? He says today he because he can't handle the fact that people are freaking out about his party but he didn't find so last last gun the bulletins they say did when he he's like listen someday. I'm getting an old man so accidentally or falsely bone on radio again our. How will retire? The Headline Daily News Ribs Mar Mike Francesa rips as well ripping farts art. That's its its VICI- Hearing Mike agree to a friend and we won't stand. I couldn't even believe. He said the word he doesn't like that kind of like yeah mark because a caller is like. What do you think that New York Daily News? Headlines said he ripped apart when you were ripping fanatic games. You know I just wanted to know what your thoughts were. The Daily News came out with article that ripped the far. I just wanted to know your point on what you when talking about. I mean what. You're just a moron. I mean. Now what are you sending me a headline that says what they actually wrote a headline. That said that I'm GonNa read the headline Mike. Francesa appears to rip fought while ripping ripping Adam Gates now his thing the five minute morning which Anthony Tapes in the morning first of all I. I didn't happen. It's a complete lie. Which Daily News all the time? Secondly Anthony has to tape that and put it up if we had something happened. Why would we we put it up on life? He didn't know what he was is. That what are you talking about. And then he's talking. He's like mom. What's he talking about race? That headline he's reading. He's like Mike Francesa Hustle rips apart and then he laid out the fact. Here's the thing though Mike by Denying that this did not happen but never will happen is you can't run. I mean he's a foreigner is an older gentleman way teeth you know no. It's much like porn guys. We had pirates Simon like member. Jim Tom Sue afforded a press conference. That that's a fun not compare Mike Francesa the ESPN. He is a regal rich wealthy. swaggie gentleman that he's like when it says he didn't he didn't squish pants when you walk around but his butt cheeks use the you'll leave his buddies out of this US talking about this show. He retired because of the floor. He retired because come back. It's like Howard. Stern left terrestrial rates. Like he couldn't take his own thing that he did not oy. That would actually make more sense. Probably we can't have a man farting on radio. Listen now that man. He's a King Court court. The clip is to launch. Are you what you want. An aisle of the store he he. Denial is a ten minute tonight tonight. He told me that he was accused of murder. Backup came back. Who's like recap do you? He fucked over those people that big time like coming back. He's the one guy but I mean the one dude like is no longer with WFAN totally. He's Jay Leno people saying bad about them at the eighteen. Th that's that's him asking what happens. Come on Tom. We'll move along here this his fight and the giants stadium guys get positive face laughing asking the hit again. Aw Aw over this guy. The giants giants fan a cowboy fans news. They didn't know what to make right parcel. Eighteen seconds at the right coach's how much work they put into. This year's bracelets live but it's like I'll be honest. AH NOISE DOWN NOISE and not change. Where does that what was that? Yeah I want you as the king of hand motions. I'd never understand. This is the game last night. The football game this this play right here the black cat not or not. This is bogus bogus. Dance had nowhere to come up. Did you watch the game. You actually. You didn't know he was breaking down. Mitch came over the top on Davis. And what what are you saying wide open. Why do you keep shrugging shows like my hands are tied last night I had had to? We had to break leave. The Oslo is no. I'll kill verse. Stephen share rivalries. I saw it went nuclear today. He released the MSCI force. My even it was so incredible last night so last night I said like okay. Everyone be nice to Mitch. Stephen shares had killed at two strikes about two months now and he said don't push me and killed his rope wrote on twitter. Released a tape you little girl and he said man has a coat he said Tiger said had quote. I have to do it. I can't be anyone's bitch absolutely. I ain't no punk big little girl option. He did it you have to midnight. I want to let that go you. All the best was we were talking about. Like where do we go from here. Now the nuclear option has been reached. I just calmly serial killer was like I haven't even started looking at two thousand nine hundred. Nineteen coming the last week was bad enough. Yeah he went through his actually scary all right. Well well if you didn't see the game doesn't matter. I need the play. You'll be able to play getting criticized by those trolls and clear that not the flag pick. I mean he they said Danny Jones had nowhere to go. David saying saquon right. There is wide open and that you can tackle instantly no no chance. Was He going to get Dan. This guy closing a look back. Yeah we do. It was how winning the game it was it was Tau nine twenty three PM. So that's you know an hour ish into the game. They're they're on the line. The giants of the ball fields elderly people say Vogler booger goes. He had nowhere to throw. The football saquon was in the flat for forty five minutes with nobody near I mean just looking I mean he's is looking right at SEIC. One at a p sequence got a look. Come on better than this. There's two linebackers ready to converge on Him. told you it's coke. Losing Save watching this game like with a gift Charles Being Blonde. Yeah should on the whole play. Does anyone have the whole play of talking to the guy. ooh He could've thrown at any moment. That screen shot doesn't mean you justice. He was scrambling with them. He could let him. It would have been touched. They didn't score on that. Kick the field goal. Anthony Davis in Chicago people. Ask them what he wanted to go bulls hometown. He's basically like well free agent at ought Associated what crazy so everyone has. Everyone is a free agent every year now and they won't show it's it's a Lebron effect. He killed Kyrie Irving was to his killing one day. He killed the Cleveland Browns. Even he had said like a plan for home. But you got to lead with like I'm I'm a Laker and that's what I'm having already. Sorry he was in Chicago. They asked him next year. He's from Chicago whether go to the Bulls right and he's like I will be free free agent next year plan for home. There's nothing like it but I'm not surprised with it. This is the this is. He's just like annoy but he's Rep by Koch. gotch clinched model like Lebron's actually okay with this just yet. Yeah no he wants clutch model is to you basically say oh. I'll go everywhere knowing he's GonNa stay Laker like he's like Lebron when he was like we member on the brunt took a meeting in Chicago limit. The Lebron's model he left Lebron leaves. He gets the most money. Though the Hugo get. Hit It what you said. It's like he's saying he may Lebron leaves leaves but he also said he basically makes everyone think he's leaving at all times but he did was the question then he look what he's also stayed right now he's now he's always gone every every time he's been like I'm big waves. You always leave came back and how I know this is going to trump the things. You just got the Lakers and I. I hate the Lakers Lebron. But when you get a year in advance is Jacksonville. That's a Lebron. I don't WanNa talk about. That's a little bit but then liberal. I actually gave the service Sylvan. Anthony Davis being a bull. He's definitely going to be quick one eight. Well that's awesome also in hindsight the most ridiculous thing you've ever said that you know I realized she'd Never States now. This is what happened. The the the the topics in advance anything twenty-three-year-old influence a from Great Britain monkeys Freddie Bentley in the new. Well I saw his face off teaching World War at this little fucking kidding the NIP stor Nazi hipster. Yeah a big time not look this guy. He's to World War. Two tenths of a kid says here. I WANNA start off by saying I find very obviously it was was an situation and I don't want anyone been disrespectful in that way whatsoever however stand by the point that I don't think think it's as education the way that we you know they so many problems going on in the world at the moment like Brexit. That's not taught in schools and climate. I may change which is a situation. We should be aware of. And you know when I left school I felt like it. Hit me like a ton of breaks because I didn't know anything in general life. Hi First of all we're throwing around the influence a little to fuck in influence. Yeah hundred thousand dollars. Gross here yes. She's she's an influence. Yeah for all we know. This kid has nine Zillion talker. Yeah that's probably plus the they say instagram influence and he has a hundred thousand dollars in instagram. This dude dudas way too fucking shit. Why are we talking about? Because he's by the way I teach World War but you can get rid of like math. He's not you know you auger fee and right. He says social teaching mortgages in school. That's true yeah right also zoe but also you should teach exit shift fine. I grew like there's stuff you don't need to like school from those parts you. He's not like a one hundred percent wrong. But the whole idea of like you could swap setting history and three days and then move on to a different subject all of it a lot of it. What do you like World War Two? We know the the Nazis Japan inverse like everyone else boob on. Yeah there it is running back very livestream tonight. Yup College Basketball's back no more no on the season I WANNA get fucked. I couldn't get that I should quit. I WANNA give challenge boy Eddie hosted in Barcelona. Yeah I have a tip from. I'm following a tip from a guy. I don't know who he is but he was so convincing. I'll get my phone time. This is just. I'm going to go. I told you see my texts last night. Dave Oh yeah that's big news the NBA got my back. A guy we might have gotten back so people can do with this whatever they want. I don't know who this guy is. or how he got my info. But Hey Dave one just let you know that the play your your play on the Ku Duke game tonight needs to be Ku for at least three. Units as line is a joke open K. U. Two has been steamed to Ku peck minus one moving minus two most places. Not just a you homer saying. Take the hawks but is K.. Paid homer then. He texted me again those yesterday at ten forty seven. PM then at one thirty am he put an Asterix. Make it five units L.. Lot I listen to you. Oh here we go. How'd you get it so fast? Don't run he's got. Could you hear here. The telecast coach State for that game is announced I watched the telecast and I did like a wide shots. You can see it. I mean it's third five SAQUON could've caught the ball. Two yards. Mind Atlanta scrimmage yards two linebackers looking right at him. He couldn't get out. Uh I agree with Stephen. He's our guy you can't get mad when he gives you now's you don't like I mean yes there he's going to get there. It's going to be talking about okay. If he chose right they're gonNA get no he's look at it and it is Saquon Jalen Smith. He's pretty fucking good. I mean I think you would have gotten the game. He's not gonNA yards. Search them all. I think you can get I. Maybe touch I think if he goes directly towards the corner of the Enzo parallel with the sidelines and like yeah but the way was scrambling audio ways sixers rambling with set off six. I'm assuming Jones with a lead him. This is pretty cool. How do you get like take? This is the guy in the middle of the guy who was open. But I watch this Dave. This guy's open. We'd slow down right there. He's he's running this way if he just there's no way they get him rewind Holler will all the all the the TV footage the ultimate out for this game here. We go this show of better. Daniel Jones say corn together towards the sideline if if he threw the ball to him. Here hearing Jones and saquon running both towards the sideline. There's no way anyone tackles him before he scrambles this way with them. You say looking directly moving towards the side this guy who gets opened by the way right here watches a continue and saquon starts moving towards the left if you just put it on. UPS stops though watch yet but right there is stupid. It's slow right there league. They're gonNA open right there. Look at that if you lead them over there he's

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