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CBB Insider Jon Rothstein And The Brackets Are Finally Here

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CBB Insider Jon Rothstein And The Brackets Are Finally Here

"On today's part of my take the brackets are officially out. And this is March we have John Ross dean on the show to break down the breakfast with us also to address whether or not he is or is not a robot. We have who's back the week of Monday reading a little respect, the biz a pack show for you to get ready for a huge week in sports, and what better way to get us ready then for one Henry Lockwood to do the first ad read. Let's go Hank. That have no am I tripping part of my take is brought to you by the cash up. That's the name as the town load cash app. Get the cash card then start saving ten percent more every single time, you swipe dip or tab at whole foods, pull a Chick-fil-A Taco Bell Dunkin. Starbucks in more download cashcard get the cash up then start saving ten percent or more every single time you swipe dip or chunk. On filet shack bell, taco semi wholefoods. Starbucks. Starbucks and more. Downloads poli get the whole foods then start saving ten percent or more. Every single time. You hit one from the three point line at dunk dunk buck buck taco taco in wild wild-boar download cache app from the app store. Google play house and order the cash card cash card Cathcart day. Okay. Let's go. Pardon? Part of my take presented by chalk. It's chalk now on Spotify. Go go. Listen to it right now on Spotify today is Monday March eighteenth and our brackets are busted. How's your bracket? Damn pretty bad is pretty good. No. This is coming on the south. This is my well. First of all, I wanna talk about that. Okay. I feel like we're overdue to rename the different brackets that go into the different regions. Yeah. It's very confusing tried switching up a few years ago. Right. We'll know. So the way it works is. It's the pod the pod system. So the first round they always wanna make it. So that people fans can travel to the games. Yeah. So they do it like a game in Hartford could be the south region. Then when they get to the Sweet Sixteen it's the region's. Yes. See I don't like that. I let's make it standard. Because my biggest problem with March madness. And the whole bracket system in general is there it's usually not standard across all the different sports webs. Sites out there. You don't have the same. You typically do with some variation terms of like all right, Duke, his top left. Yeah. And they should always be topless everywhere knows there are few. That's which which it should be called top left. Bottom left top right bottom. Right. Make it easy for. Okay. There we go. That was our first gripe. Mar. Yeah. There we go step off off down that soapbox. So the tournament is set the best week. Maybe the best week in sports. I mean is one of the best weeks. Mortz the Thursday Friday. I mean that whole weekend. There's nothing better. You're probably sitting in your cube right now. It also is like there we mock about like talking about brackets, and who you got in this region. And what upsets you have put everyone. It's one of those things that were almost everyone just kind of making fun of themselves because everyone does it, and it's awesome. Because you spend basically Monday, Tuesday Wednesday just obsessing over something that you know, is going to burst into a huge ball flames within the first four hours of. Thursday. But I'd have it. No other way. Yeah. It's it is amazing. Are you big print out bracket? Oh, yeah. How did you get the famous? Highlighter got a highlighter in Hong that yourself. No. And the the guys on like on CBS ESPN, we're gonna have John Rosty in in a minute. But they sit there and they break down every single region and Dickie v picks all the one and two seeds. And it's like, none of this matters because it's all gonna blow up in our face. And it's all going to be the best sports of the year. Yeah. It was so awesome seeing Dickie's bracket and because the running joke every years like he just goes chalk and this year, he literally went just shot. Someone pointed out though, technically Dickey is being the boldest of anyone by going just chock every year. Well, that is the most is the riskiest of every ever of everyone because it never goes John jock. So what I'm doing this year because I do respect to seating committee so much and I feel I feel like we should pay deference to them. I'm going one hundred percent chalk, except I'm going to pick one twelve over five because it has had ever year over five check out that Oregon Wisconsin game, which is a two one and a half point underdog. For organ huge upset coming. So there was actually it was weird because it was this was the first year in a long time that there weren't many gripe. So you didn't have your usual. Jay bilas. I think he was exhausted from complaining about every replay. That's ever happened in the world. Yeah. I'm I'm want me. Get on my soapbox, Jay Bilas chill out. Dude. You're everything's a fucking lecture with you. Now, I'm sick of it. Okay. But there didn't seem to be much, you know, who got left out to committee fucked up. So basically, we just got into gripes about seating. And Michigan state got screwed even though again, none of this matters because he still got a win six games. And it's going to be chaos. No matter what solo who you think you're going to have to play in the third round is never going to be that team. But that is where we landed with Michigan state got screwed. So because they have to play Duke in the in the low, and such they jumped Tennessee, but then have to play Duke. And it's like what the fuck. Yeah. You'd have to play Duke anyways. So might as well get out of the way when you're fresh. Yes. Because playing championship games on Sunday doesn't matter. It doesn't it has never mattered at that. Burst for me a long long time ago all the way back to two thousand three when Wisconsin one the big ten tournament and got a six seed. And so like that's everyone thinks that the converse championship games matter like a ton. But if you think the committee, the committee is just like us, they're fucking lazy. They're not going to sit there and watch the big ten championship. Well, now, we gotta change every everything we've done all weekend. They filled it out the ready to go. They could be like every every player get hurt. And they would probably be like all right? Well, let's move Michigan state from a to in the south to two in the arts of yet to be like the to a and so the to be yes, right? Yeah. They should they should just get real granular with it. Every single seed should be one a one b once or one day the other big news. We have from the bracket the Rick Pitino revenge game the greatest setup they had besides the Jaama rant verse. Marcus Howard first round matchup that game. Minnesota Rick Petito junior playing against Louisville. And if Rick Rick Pitino is going to be there. I would assume and we're gonna get so many shots old slick Rick. And I hope he actually he goes topless for the game. So he can see tattoo. I was actually thinking maybe if Adora pulled down real low. He's trying to blend in the crowd somehow he is going to. I mean, I'll be where's the white suit? He refuses to go back into the state of Kentucky does your. He doesn't go. Pretty sure I read a story where like today he got fired he left Louisville. And he hasn't been back since more burly doesn't go back. Yeah. I like that you can throw the seeds out the window and those teams it's about the window or down your pants like. Yeah. Whatever you want. So that one was one of the stories the ACC getting three out of the four. One seeds. Clearly, there's a ESPN has an ACC bias. We can all agree on that rice absolute ACC for coast SEC for Atlantic coastal coast bias, yes. And we also had coach Cal in his living room with every jersey from every NBA star. He's ever coaching just casually in his living room with the Saran wrap still over on the ground. Always ended up against oh shoot. Yeah. Oh, you don't think that in my six million dollar home? I don't have a boogie cousins USAA jersey sitting right next to this. This six thousand dollar armchair all I did. I did happen to coach John wall. Why do you ask? Oh, oh, there wasn't number one pick. Yeah. That he didn't take his ACT. He's got a frame Derrick rose SAT hanging up on a picture of Derrick rose with his arm around William H Macy. Oh, it's so good. I love he's just always be recruiting be recruiting what other stories we got. You have there's coach K. I now I noticed at the end of the tournament his hairs. Turning gray. It's very salt and pepper now. So yeah. Time for the job. So just be on the lookout for that. Very first game. It's gonna be jet black. Yes. Absolutely. So let's talk about it. Because we have the Duke Hank in his cat. First of all we should mention that Zion was unbelievable nasc- tournament. That was like anyone who thought that Zion? Anyone who had to take Zion should just quit the rest of the season and never play. Again. You gotta feel foolish watching how much funny had and like how much it meant to them. Of course, these games. Don't really mean. Anything for guys about to make like one hundred million dollars. Put it really means something to him, and it just shows how much of a competitor he really enjoys winning. Yes. That's you want that in in one of your athletes to if I could just jump over. Pretty sick. I haven't seen a player be that dominant in a postseason tournament ever. Maybe Gerry McNamara him and Jerry Makmur the two best basketball players the last twenty years there. It is one and two member. When we do we start the Jerry McEnroe and this show, Casey. Oh, yeah. Big. Gerry McNamara guy? We had a a idea that we would just start like kind of fucked up now that I'm thinking about like rumors that's some random Cozma floor. Understood the power that. Podcast idea was a we would start rumors that like random basketball players college basketball players from fifteen years ago died it's trending that's fun. And we did that. And then people like Gerry McNamara. Like, hey, why are people asking from that jet? It's like, okay. Maybe we don't do that. And that was a bad not to get idea. It was funny. I thought at the time there's no chance at Gerry McNamara wasn't related to Jim behind. And so I mean have you seen buddy behind the funniest fucking kid ever? I think do get Syracuse. I was like if buddy behind beats me, I'm gonna fucking flip out. It is pretty hilarious watching Hank getting very very upset at this team. Even though he likes them. Yeah. Apparently. But he's very upset that AO see isn't getting the minutes that used to get zion's taken his minutes. Right. Yes. So let's talk about Duke seating. We have a little we this actually is brought to you by a friend of ours. It is brought to you by Armand hammer. Clump in seal, so big credit to Hank for were big, adoption guys. And Hank is going to Dopp the cat. In arm and hammer. Life stepped up the competency has the cat litter has stepped up and they're going to give hang a year supply of Armand hammer slump in seal cat litter to make Hank's life easier. Armand hammer, clump and seal cat litter is a revolutionary cat litter that absorbed. Seal destroys real very real. We have had for for cat litter. Now. Heels destroys on contact. It is so affected that it's guaranteed to keep Hank's home odor for free for seven days. Komen seals the first and only litter that use exclusive sealing technology, plus baking soda to steal and destroy odor. So they don't leave the litterbox it is also one hundred percent free. So if you own a cat pleased by Armand hammer, clump and seal and tweet it to us, and let us know to support both adopting animals and also Hank the future of LeBron Lockwood and Armand hammer. So thank you to Armand hammer for stepping up for this show. And it's actually Zion on hold on his perfect that they stepped up for this because PF deny before the show convince Hank that he had to walk his Catt twice a day. He was like, wait. You gotta walk cats. It's going to get it where else is going to go to the bathroom. Like, don't you? See guys just walking their cats around Williamsburg, which I'm sure you have seen and and he's like animals, I gotta get us like shit. Well, I have I have a porch. So he could just go out there. No, hank. Don't worry. You can do a cap lit. Boxy don't have to take your cat out on a walk arm. An incumbent seal. Incumbency? Can't take it out on a walk still doesn't preclude you from do you think that we will buy you? A least throw that into Armand hammer clemency is buying you a full fucking year of cat litter. I'm buying you a full year of tuna and PFC's buying you. A cat leash and the catnip. Yeah. Yeah. That's on. Do you think that are? You know, do you think that you could fill your bathtub with cat litter, Hank and just like pissing poop in there? I mean that work probably your bachelor on the cat you shouldn't kit. You should you should literature in yourself PG. Okay. So I'm not worried six games a lot of games for team the can't shoot threes. But thinks they can shoot threes and Virginia Tech has Justin Robinson back which got a scare you and VCU havoc. Even though shock smart hasn't been there forever. They have it baby. You scare to havoc. Okay. But they did. I mean, listen Duke is obviously insane. And what they didn't ACC tournament was incredible. And they're very good team. But they can't shoot threes. So and I I went back, and I looked at the records your, whoa, what happened when they played they played earlier this year. Hang Jay, tack in Virginia Tech do. Oh, interesting. Zainuddin play. No. We're not we're not talking. We don't know science going gonna player. Well, he listened. He is injury prone. Kazakh beat a fully healthy Duke team zag is trying to get their first final forever. So you gotta think about that. I wouldn't be worried that that'd be passed. The the word point. That's true. That would be in the final four how you feel real about to go into this tournament. The only way that like I'm not worried at all Michigan state is a very good team, but they are past the worry point. But Izzo isn't. He's not built. He's cheese coaching the hell out of those boys. Zion somehow gets like three thousand the first five minutes, and they go ice cold from three maybe somehow that's ever happened in. I'm not I'm not worried at all ever been worried at any point there in this process. I'm happy guys got your jokes out. I'm happy guys. Look, I wrote down provide some Jomon for you guys. Like, no, listen, I'm happy that I was able to bring some joint here guys life gave you that idea. Like, let it grow in your minds. But I'm sorry. That's not gonna also do. Listen Duke is very very good. But they're getting all the accolades right now, I think they might be reading the press clip. Thinks too much. I've seen them all over the network shows. This is they're setting themselves for failure. That's on this buzz Williams is the guy to bring down our friend buzz will. Yeah, you remember what he said he last time when he trained us. Here's what the hell Hank. He has no confidence in the background for that was Hank rolled up into buzz Williams legs, and almost no I. He committed office of Falun push me away. No, I got an an one we'll get flex in your face. It was like what the hell. We'll get buzz on the show if they survived the first weekend, and they have to go face to in the second round or the Sweet Sixteen we that'd be great for Ethan half. Sure. Oh, here we go. Here we go. Listen to the as Davis said the batteries are banged up. Even though we have no injuries pressure. He just meant their banged up because they can't hit layups score forty points. They must always Bank. It's okay. But yeah. So the brackets out. I'm just excited. I like, I there's something about this week where it's just like you can't be in a bad mood. Yeah. I think I've said this vacate that you know, that no-one starch. Every year on the show. But this is the time to quit your job right now. If you if you're on the fence quit your job, you'll never regret see walking away from job. I disagree. I think this is the time to to just not show up and see if your job will fire you. So you can get the severance. Okay. Yeah. Wit by omission. Yeah. Don't quit. Stop working. Yeah. Because maybe you get lucky and they're like, oh, he must have had diarrhea for two days. That were also the first today's that tournament. Yeah. Just stop working. Listen, if your boss doesn't give you like at least a half day on Friday, then you need to quit your job because everyone in the world like it, also, especially if you're like in ER, doctor, remember the boss button. Yeah. Back in the day, lame come on you need a boss who actually embrace. Everyone's watching it your boss's probably watching it. He's just gonna pretend that he's not everyone's going to be watching everyone's gonna be filling out brackets even Darren rebel. Which actually makes me want to not fill out a bracket this year. He's back is. Well, no, it's it's not even back. He's literally filling out the first bracket of his life. That's there's no way. That's true. Definitely brackets. I know he just loved the chaos. I know he rooted for the upset, but he didn't want the stress of his bracket being he's he's such a liar. So much stress. He probably had a secret bracket every single year that he would go like tip toe upstairs and check in the middle of the night. That was his version of porn like something naughty. He shouldn't be looking at what what he doesn't realize is that everyone's bracket gets busted like it's actually the other way. If you have a good bracket by the second week, and everyone fucking hate you because you're just walking around being like still got my whole final four. It's like shut up, dude. Well, the guy that is doing well after the first week he's the guy that just asks everybody else has your brand. How's it hoping that you'll ask him back? Oh, yeah. How's your bracket? Oh, I still got you had you had Michigan state. They lost. Okay. Well, I I still have my tire final four. Yeah. Fuck you man, Hank. You wanna do who's back? Sure. Let's do it. Do you know you go? Go became wants to go. Now. Stop doing this. Every time come on go, Hank. My evacuees Isaiah Thomas, which one the nuggets basketball. Problematic. All right. Why do they make his his tribute video form he's playing the Celtics tonight? Oh, are they playing the video? They are. I know what they're going to have to. I think they have to play the video. It's kind of sad. What's happened to Thomas? I feel bad because like do you really? So be Danny aines. Danny angel Hollick. No, you can and also data was right? But is as Thomas was also a great player. That after he left the Celtics. He's kind of got a raw deal and hasn't really done much. You know with this career so dangerous correct by giving a mass contract. But right after sister. No that wasn't right after sister died. But all I'm saying is he deserves a tribute video. He was a great Celtics player and he's back tonight. I hope you get it. He should get video tribute. And the Lakers should make them want to end the Cavaliers. Yeah. Absolutely. All right. Is that it who's back? Yeah. It's who. Okay. My who's back. This is a huge one gymnasts. Yeah. Gymnasts back. It is officially Jim Nance season. His voice the smoothing. Hello friends. The music that plays over the the masters footage that they show in the commercial break everything about this time of year is right in gymnastics wheelhouse. And that also means that his dad napping season. Yep. When you hear gymnastics voice, he his Voice's, AS, Amore dads. Yes. It just put to sleep immediately. It's not out. I wish we could get by the way. Like, why can't Gus Johnson? Get like a ten day contract with CVS for the tournament. Problem. We need those we need the best announcers the guys who are just going to give it everything Bill Walton to like the playing games should be Bill Walton. Yeah. Why not right or Bill on give us the North Dakota's university of the nine thirty, you know, one sixteen game that's going to be hard to watch. Anyway, give us Bill Walton just going off. Yeah. I want Bill talking about India. And and the majestic legacy of the North American bison. Yeah. I want him doing a deep dive riding a bike. Yeah. Going. My other who's back week is impractical jokers because those assholes are gonna be all over the TV again eight dude, where's true. Tv. I don't know. What channel it is. Because it's my first time owning television. Damn I don't even have a guide on my television numbers. True TV. This is the season to figure out what your TV. There's no worse feeling than passing out drunk and waking up like on a Saturday afternoon to impractical jokers. Yeah. It's sucks. There's also by the way, speaking of broadcast. It's also Charles Barkley trying to jam in all his research. Oh, yeah. And Charles Barkley commercials season, which actually is pretty good that new Larry Bird. And and Spike Lee, Larry bird's dog is is Charles bark Lee seen it. And it's a good name. Charles Barkley gets a birding names, Larry Bird and Larry Bird gets a and Larry bird's like has the most. I'm just here for the fucking paycheck of all time. Larry Bird turns out not a good actor. It's like I don't want see that paycheck was too good bird already. Looks like a cartoon. He shouldn't be in live action movies. He was so I I love him because he looks exactly like any rich very accomplished guy should look at my hair when they're when they're doing a commercial that they don't really need to do. Due to good twenty minutes of were much. She think they paid Larry to do that. I don't know. We'll lot probably like whole lot hundred grand fifty grand those like just lost a bet to Parkway and his payment was yet to show up. It's like the Larry Bird. I mean, Tom Brady's kind Michael Jordan that where you just don't do anything because you don't want to. And then when you get to do one thing, you get all the money because it's so rare like it's reverse Peyton Manning would if Larry Bird became this generation's, George Foreman and just hord himself out product and became the most beloved person. All right. I have three who's oh you got. No, no. You didn't ask me if I was done. Oh, you done yet to county. Okay. I got three. So which were whom specs I think I'm just giving you one of my others. Okay. Yeah. Probably I Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yes. So we'll you know, what will share this one ven diagram? This is this a we just passed the baton of who's batting. And in the middle are who's back of the week is verbal verbal Meam. One cyst me. Liam PF t- handshake in the middle. It says rye Fitzpatrick's back in the AFC. Right. Fitzpatrick signed by the dolphins. I don't think there's been a more perfect move in the history of the NFL. Then Ryan Fitzpatrick going to the dolphins for so many different reasons. One like the dolphins are actually have a plan in its it's the giants alleged plan to win while rebuilding. Ryan Fitzpatrick is like the perfect we can rebuild, but he'll give us four or five wins. That will be awesome to watch. So people don't get so pissed off about the team suck. Yes. If you don't think that Ryan Fitzpatrick is being the patriots wants this year. You don't know football beating the patriots. And then the next week like losing to the jets with six interception. Yeah. Three two nine to the jets. Yeah. He's a greatest quarterback of all time because he can he literally can be he can be Joe Montana in one half. And then like jamarcus Russell in the second half that beard in that south Florida humidity is going to be some. Wasn't tampa. But yeah, yeah. I think it's way more, humid. I've done no research into this. Jim cantore all your big fan of the show, if you can correct me, but the humidity in Miami is going to it's going to just look like he's got an afro, it's go look like he's puking and afro out of his face, man. I'm just happy would we're never going to be done with Ryan Fitzpatrick. And it's going to be great because he'll be one show next next on a Monday morning where we're like Fitzpatrick did it again. And then we'll do another show. Like Ryan Fitzpatrick did again crap down his pants. I'm trying to think who the most perfect team for Fitzpatrick to play for next year would be I mean, and I think I gotta go Cincinnati Bengals back. I was gonna say the patriots have Tom Brady retires. And then he just completes the AFC east like, you know, the cycle. Yeah. He well. He's been swarming. The the patriots for a while. Play for every team in the NFL by the end of his career. So if he throws a touchdown this year he'll have thrown touchdowns to eight different or on eight different NFL teams, which would be record. That's impressive. That is crazy. He's just such a little slut. Then he threw four. Okay. The jets the bills. Jets bills dolphins. Baga Rams bucks bills. I mean, the jets jets bills dolphins Rams box. Bangles was he on the bingo? I think he was titans. Was y'all titans? Yeah. He's been everywhere taxes. He's been to all the worst teams. They most teams take we do. We do we say single good team. Do I think it's first game ever? He three M'S Bengals bills titans. Texans jets. It's like the Vietnam wall of NFL franchises. Unbelievable. His first on I'm gonna look it up real quick. But the like Ryan Fitzpatrick's. Yeah. He's on the Texans to his first two games of the funniest thing. Because it is Ryan Fitzpatrick's entire career. He could quit after the first two games. Yeah. Fitzpatrick led the Rams from twenty four to three halftime deficit to thirty three. Twenty seven overtime win throwing for three hundred ten yards and three touchdowns any earned NFC offensive player of the week. And then I'm pretty sure in his next game. Game. Oh, yeah. He was unable to duplicate his debut performance in the game. You start with the Rams coming in two weeks later in which he threw for five interceptions. Yes. He's gonna look so Larry in that candy ass dolphins jersey to fuck. It's like an old guy. Just retiring and going down to Dade County to hang never leave us. Ryan fitzpatrick. All right. My other who's back to more one is foam for being old because March are Saint Patrick's Day weekend this weekend in fucking sucks being old and see and everyone like saints. Awesome. And it's more foam for not for living in this terrible city of New York where I just you know, like, I just don't wanna be to the parade yesterday. I didn't watch watch Graham stories all day as Tam. I wish I was twenty four again, get blacked out. Have a great time Saint Patrick's Day, Hank. Did you do it? Did we don't have a my above a deaf? Fucking lynn. Yeah. Bubba you hung over Bubba. You hung you hung. He's. You do the like I'm so hung over. I just got jerk off in the morning. Okay. Wow, bro. You don't drink drink hard enough that you got gotta jerk off when you wake up the next morning. Pussy. All right. My other whose back is millennials killing everything including the mob boss got whacked. It was shot by millennia twenty four year old. Wow. Anthony camello sounds a lot like Carmelo Anthony. But yeah, that's a suspect. So he's it's alleged. Okay. Distinction millennials kill everything including mafia had they track him down. He probably put it on his own social media counts. Just killed them boss. He did his book live all the way out. Yeah. So much engagement on my tweet when I murdered the head of the game. Vino falcon millennials men can't do anything anymore. Body was covered in avacado toast. We knew right away that it was a millennial random over with a with a bird scooter. Yeah. Yeah. We actually tracked him down from when he when he checked in and when he checked out from his divvy bike or whatever the chase. What is the bikes called here? It's not the bird scooter zone city bikes. Chicago. All right before we get some ads. John Ralston got a quick word about something. We're doing for the tragedy in New Zealand. So we were teaming up with Mattie Walsh. And the New Zealand breakers the basketball team that may be can handle own. And we've got a new T shirt that's on sale right now. 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So let's start with exit wanna get to the tournament wanted to your bracket any upsets that you can give people, but we I have to start with your Twitter are you robot? I am not a robot. Okay. I've been asked several times I've a robot. Yes. You can confirm sources can I confirm? I am not a robust. So let's break it down though. So if you're not familiar with John's Twitter account, it is very very informative and also funny in you play the hits you have a few tweets and you play the what's the thought process behind that? My first boss ever in media, Mike Thompson, who was a program director at ESPN radio here in New York who gave me my first opportunity about fifteen years ago. He said to me buddy, you wanna make it in this business. You better have some opinions and you better play the hits and you need to find what works. And it's kind of like all of a sudden, you know, you get something that you think may click, and you try it out, and it becomes part of your brand another thing, you know, that he told me which I still remember is you've got a separate yourself. You have done that you've been. Here's the thing. You have a brand. Yeah. No in branding is important, but you guys too. And you know, I am just respect the note is getting together for the first tonight. I respect people. And I think there's a lot of people like that in this business. You guys are two of them as well that kind of just come from not a lot and work and grind. And if you've been through the gamut like in this business. Yeah. Where you're suffering, and you're working other jobs, and you're trying to make ends meet, you know, the journey and the process of getting re the process of becoming what you're supposed to becomes much more rewarding. Sometimes where you get to go. I think you know, you learn you gotta separate yourself. You can't just be somebody who's watching a lot of games and getting your share news. You gotta be more well-versed. Than that. And that's another thing. You know? Mike Thompson, my first my first boss told me, make sure you're up to date on news. Make sure you're up to them movies make certain references. And that's why you know, mccrone and more consistent than a few. Good men on a rainy Sunday. But that's not up to date. Why's that like came out? Not up to date. But you have been in situations. I'm sure we're it's been a rainy Sunday. And like you can't watch. You can't watch the Frank Kaminsky highlights like you normally do and things like that. And all of a sudden, you're like, well, if you could men's on AMC, I'm gonna leave it Cronin. Like with this generation of kids growing up like Hank, for example, when you say who ordered the code red Hank is thinking that you're talking about mountain dew. Yeah. Fernow me, I ordered it's delicious. 'cause you again, you have the things you love, and that's it becomes its own brain. Like, you're talking to a guy who in college who just wanted to work in media and wanted to live in New York City, so bad when I had like time, and I would watch movies. I would rotate between like cocktail Wall Street and the secret of my success. Okay. What those two gold. You stay hungry. You stay humble that's another one that you tweet out. What do you do that every morning every morning every morning? What why do you tweet that every morning? It's a reminder, and you guys know this because there is probably more self promotion now with social media, I think in negative ways than there are necessarily of being somebody who's trying obviously to Florida career in a positive way. It's a reminder daily when I start each day that everything you have done the day prior is over and done with you break story, it's vapor. You have a good show. It's a vapor goes away each and every day is an opportunity to get better and really start something new hungry stay where we stay hungry. We've got half always hungry. But it's also a nice way to let everyone know like if you ever get kidnapped like if the tweets not there, someone call the police exactly I have ultimate plans for that. Right. Contingency plans. Go ahead. Well, I mean, you know, if I lose my phone somebody knows, you know, to tweet at seven o'clock shut up. Got you because. Yeah, come on. Now. I I believe that you have someone. I don't have a contingency plan on it. That's just my theory was that. It's like it's like meditation for you where you tweet the same things every day, and it's like a routine, I I will say which will that you had I will say this. I am an avid reader and one of the things I remember, you know, I think you know, certain cases, you know, and you guys are probably like this too. When you're not. Entire year. Like this sense when you wanna make it in this business. Yeah. It consumes. You it consumes you, and it's all you think about when am I going to get a call whether you're in radio, and it's a program director, whether you want to be, you know, on TV and so on and so forth, and I think for a large portion of my life. It was just like college basketball, college baseball, college basketball and about two years ago. January two thousand seventeen I got really bad car. Accident had black ice. I told him my car and everything like that. And my perspective changed drastically. I think you see a little bit more the forest from the trees, and you start having a greater appreciation for other things you try to you know, in court you start to get a little bit different perspective. And you start to see there's other things. So, you know, changes your about your mouth and your perspective changes. The reason why like John is that you you basically like we're sitting here in this room together were were all in media in New York City, but the Pazar so different. And you're basically you're like a perfect. I say robot, but I mean in during a robot of like media put together like I you could create a perfect college basketball insider, you'll be free shatman. Yeah. You just like mash it all together actually before. I was like did he go to Syracuse? No. He went to went to close enough. What I opted to go against Syracuse. Oh, that's like big Jay. I think you know, at the time, I probably just was ready wasn't ready for school. That's is. But you know, my life ago that's happened between the final four twice in twenty paid off the refs you that second half was called differently. You would mitt, you know, I was like one foul the first half in like the second local all I know is this big cat, you know, cheese curves. Before the interview. But I just think for the Wisconsin fan like you have a nine point lead in national title. Okay. The way you're doing this. I like my version better. I b. The bracket. Let's I want to talk about a couple of these tweets and get some explanation for the hit. Yeah. So you have this March that one is taking on its own life. This is March is like, and then like what have you do you have rights to that? I don't have the rights to you. We should do we got it. So actually just cleared. We got it maybe down the road. But nothing yet. Okay. And then you also have the spin off. This is only November. This is only December. Right. You know that it's not much correct? Right. So you also almost stay on brand look at calendar to like, we know what month it is. If you follow. And you know, we only sleep in may we always been ever fucked up and tweeted this March when it's not March like accidentally maybe in the final four April. And like really, it's an awesome game goes to overtime this March myself. But if I said that it was going to be like member that's space balls and says, I'm sorry, sir. Micro converter malfunction. Yes. Okay. Yes. Eighties movie. What about tougher than a long weekend? Your inlaws for West Virginia basketball. Use it for West Virginia. Here's the thing about west Virginia's interesting. I went to practice a couple years ago. You know, when obviously hugs was the coach, and it's three hours, and it's all three hours. I was like sitting there, and it's like hand to hand combat scrimmaging, and they go through nine possessions each for a team, and they're keeping score and Ceuta to and like I've sitting there, and I'm just like this is like Russell Crowe and gladiator a little bit. That was that was like what it was getting into it. I couldn't believe it. So I was just like, you know, I'm just sitting there and practice hugs as walking around. He's going hard after I remember Sakaba cannot who you remember John Carter was on the t up fifteen year. And I was just kinda like this. It's like this practice tougher than a weekend at somebody's inlaws. And I'm not even married. I was like, wait a minute. For the first game. The first game. I'm going to tweet. It did you ready down wrote it down in my notebook. And the best part is this year. They were struggling and when I read it all the West Virginia fans like God. How I miss this tweet. I don't wanna take it for granted more. I like I like the fact that you're not even married, but you just know how tough. Halford stories. I mean single New York for a long time single now. Okay. I've got I've got one here that I actually have a bone to pick with West Virginia is like a fortune five hundred company Villanova sorry Villanova is like a fortune five hundred company. It runs itself. Do you know how fortune five hundred companies work with imported directly I tweak that I tweak that one. And now, it's just Villanova basketball has become a fortune five hundred company. And now, it's just Villanova basketball fortune five hundred company that was in the early stages like I'm thinking like tofu grace in good company member when they started with Dennis Quaid Scarlett Johansson before she became scarlet Hansen with that was more the early stages so on and so two movie the last five years in the last five years, but did I see recently creed to very disowning? Oh, the original creed. Like you give me Rick from the eighties. Course you saw three to. No, I'm saying like, it's the rocky risk world. That's again that's from the mid nineties. Yeah. I read that. You watch a part of rocky two rocky three Iraqi four before every time you go on the air. Is that still true? That was true. I've been I've had to decrease my rocky influence because my girlfriend lives in my apartment. I had this big plaque in my apartment of rocky two three and four on one wall. Every single for this long. And then on the other side. There's a picture of rocky fours. Well, I mean for a while, you know, that he consumed your life that you think over the top was underrated o- over top is one of the best one that one little kid is such a sewing. Yeah. But the world doesn't mean nobody halfway there we go, right? What about the original rocky slow? I thought it dragged points. Okay. Would watch one of the more up to like a montage scene or something. Yeah. I would say like, you know, the montage and to think when he's running up the steps always kinda get your juices flowing. But I always felt you know, the rocky that I saw in the first part of rocky three up until Mickey died wasn't the character was like it was he was feeling himself. You know that wasn't like who because they know until he went back to the beginning when Apollo train them himself yet. All right. What about the VCU home game more life altering than ten day, trips Europe? So couple questions here. One is heavy done attendee trips year. I've never been to Europe. I've I've never I've never. No, I've never I've never. I've never been. I've never been to Europe. I've never had a Cup of coffee. I've never played governor. Remember? Okay, now, I try to stick. Okay. All right. So so you've heard that going to your for ten days. Life Archer story. I was back and forth with a girl for two years and polar opposites, really nice, girl, or whatever. But this was like peak. Shocker, okay. And like, you know, we would get into arguments. So she like, you gotta get more cultured. Like, you haven't even been the Europe. Whatever it was. I can't even been to a home at the Segal center. Now, I was like this was peak shot. I just was Trayvon Graham Brandt they Weber like you wanna do push ups on picket fences when I put the press on. And I this this kind of my subtle way. After we broke up the kind of like send you know, shot across the bow that treaty go. Now, I really like every time you put that out there. I know that somebody just getting a knife twist. Have you explain these because he's so great these make them so much better. But please go on. Here's another one. We've got a few of these Virginia basketball thing of beauty do nows and fourteen fifteen season Kentucky starts out thirty eight now and people are killing Virginia Virginia's the other team. Remember until just an Anderson geared people are saying, well Virginia could be Kentucky. And I'm watching them game after game only one team can be Kentucky that Wisconsin. Okay. Okay. I'm watching you know, Virginia play throughout the season. And it's if you're a basketball purist, not turning it overtaking good. Shots and the way they on defense. Older shot great respect. And look, I know we're taking us for the NCAA tournament. B Virginia's went thirty three and three in the ACC regular season over the last two years. It's not do you have to tip your capital point. So I was just like this is a thing of union. I was like, wait a minute. Everybody says it's ugly. I was like I'm gonna drop this all of a sudden like, you know. Jio notebook on your right now. I have one of my bag in case in case genius strikes. And I always sleep with a notebook and a pen not far away. Because if I if I thought we knew yeah, you didn't tell. As often Seinfeld gets residual checks. Does that go for everyone or just one angel guy because he got so many double doubles? But we'd so can we bring that back for someone else that could have worked for Ethan half with the double doubles? It could have. I just you know, I just didn't want to do. But that's sad to see gone. Legal Seinfeld is still getting residual checks fair enough fair enough. So maybe we'll bring that one back. What about TSA pre check life altering? I was told years ago that TSA because I kept talking about one final four. I missed my flight back. I didn't have TSA pre check. Okay. And I was stuck in Houston. I think it was like two thousand eleven like all day in the airport had TSA pre check. I never would've missed my flight. And I didn't lose all day in the airport. So somebody like you gotta get TSA pre check. So now, I'm like getting dropped off. I'm like, oh my God. I'm getting dropped off in four minutes. You know? So I'm like going through the first time, I was like that's life altering. And I was like, Gordon, I wait a minute. Wait a minute notebook just dropped it. And I just dropped. What about have you? Have you heard of clear I've heard? Heard of clear as well back. We'll really blow your mind, I know. But then I have to think of new, you know, Twitter hash like Twitter. That's okay. That might be too. That might be too much to basketball straight to the front of the line like clear. Pre check rolls off the time rolls. What about this one here period we period, go period heath ledger from the dark Knight, circa two thousand eight okay? Here's the thing. I was when I was working to ESPN radio before I went to see that movie. That's good. Yeah. Love the trilogy. I actually was more surprised and pleased when I saw dark Knight rises than any other movie. Probably in the last fifteen years because I had such low expectations because we didn't grow up with Bain as a villain. Right. And then you see Bain show up, you know, dominate Batman and put him into that, you know, prison, which obviously we know he escaped from. But also another thing top-three goosebumps scenes in the last three years when Christian Bill makes the jump in their chanting that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's a lot of bumps. Right. So explain that one. Sorry. I interrupted you saw that movie. Yeah. So here we go. I was doing a show. I remember, and like one of the times, you know, there was an intro to our show. It was in. Here we go and like I just thought about it during NCW tournaments the start of the NBA draft. And I was just like I'm gonna go to the go to it. Here we go. Here we go here. We you also make like college basketball where the unexpected becomes ordinary shot after a balance the yes, you always put circa two thousand eight movie just came out in two thousand right approximate. We can get we can pin down the date. Exactly. It's always wanted to circle the tweet. So. Hashtag. All right P in there. I wanted to keep it up beat. But you could do it would actually get any art. Or parentheses? Yeah. That would work. I have a serious question. How mesmerizing are? Well, he's eyebrows. While he's labral. I've never really like really scrutinized now. Yeah. That you see what is it? Great guy. Yeah. What about actually like this one because it kind of sums up your whole brand of people are going out of your way out of their way to tell you what you're doing wrong. Then you're doing a lot of things right? Yeah. Two people come out you for repeating playing the hits. I just think and you guys can attest this too. Because you guys are obviously in a great situation. Now, your podcast is doing great. You've went through the struggle. I can tell to get where you are. And like I was doing an interview with Gino Auriemma once for CBS, and he would just really getting into shot and Freud and it exists and nobody wants to do well and people try to throw sand that your feet, and I think once you get over that. And you realize that that's the case a coach, I was visiting with once said that he said if people are going out of their way to tell you what you're doing wrong, you're doing a lot of things, right? I like, yeah. Yeah. That one's that one's really good. Let me see if I o last one I had was more of a must watch than Seinfeld than its prime. So who is that one specific any Duke that's about? Yeah. We have never seen a player in college basketball. That has I think really captivated the college basketball audience like Ziya blooms like there's been great players. There's been great teams. But there wasn't one guy that has been this dominant. Right. Yeah. This unique. So you think back again to our our formative years Seinfeld. NBC Sunday nights. Well, miss it. Well, there's there's thirty four, but I think for the younger audience that ones we need to update that one for like, but then I wouldn't be on my brand and maybe show or something I'm still learning that flexing Instagram girlfriend, Emma, thank you to tell us that we knew that you also like to use the phrase, no words after using a lot of words. So it's like you and LeBron James or all time leaders in words used after no words, can you? Explain the no words tweets sometimes when things are. So like unfathomable, I think no other words are needed. But you just a word. Yeah. No, you're right. You got was perfect. All right. Let's talk about this tournament. That was that was great. I mean, I'm going to the roster in Twitter like Goto. I think if taken on a life of their own and people if people don't fall, you are you are like a fortune five hundred company run yourself. I I am ended. He run yourself. Now, I went from has a fortune five hundred company runs itself has become a forty five hundred just Villanova basketball fortune. That's I did that because villanovan thirteen fourteen at like a comeback year. Yeah. They were down for a year in the came back. And then I was watching them the next year. Fourteen fifteen I think they went thirty three threes when they lost NC state state. I predicted that me two dogs, and then I won the title of the next year. Yeah. But one thing I remember I was watching him and like they lost James bell. But the product is the same just like, that's there's the fortune five hundred. And I was like, wait a minute. That's another. And also I wanna go for a second. Is that what do we do? We did dogpound. Yeah. Dos bound dogs pound. Those. Death taxes and John Ross. Here's here's one thing. Big cat. Now. I I've thought about this all season long. One of the great days. I spent on the college basketball beat for CBS was I went to a practice in full fourteen in Madison. Yup. And you know, Bo was the coach, and it was awesome. Just because like, I'm so appreciative. I did now because he's not coaching anymore. I think you look at Purdue with you know, they're losing players those four starters, right? There are three seat. I think in a lot of ways met painter is the new Bo Ryan, that's why I had death taxes. Bo Ryan for a long time, and you have silence Asan Greg guard right guard at the silence s right put so what's Matt painter map painter's death taxes? Matt painter. I substituted. I have substituted. Matt painter for Reiner painter to me as a new boat. Ryan Bo ever again, touch and be like, hey, what's up, man? That's crazy. No. I will tell you this. I brought up once that, you know, mad painters nubile Ryan and Bo texted me from -fornia said appreciate the shadow hope. Everything's going. Well, you know now though now most grits cover. How often do you Texas coach I heard that you Tex coaches like good luck in the morning. I do that. So takes them a lot of things on game days. Yeah. Takes them like different. Yeah. That's all. You're you can take credit for a lot of these wins. I would your motivating the code. What do the guy behind the guy? I wouldn't say a motivating. But I would say I've daily communication with you know, almost every even if they don't play who's K not unless you really need something. Okay. Learn to pick your battles. But I would say, yeah, I would say even on non game days. I'm I'm communicating with most coach K needed. Some for me anything. I think he's dummy Assad ones come on my podcast twice this year. Yeah. Yeah. What about Cal Texas him? Yeah. That's buzz Williams is a friend of ours. I bet you he text back a lot buzz buzz is somebody, you know, I don't think bus sleeps much. No, this because of the energy Cowie got his e ever told you the story about how many letters used to write to to college coaches when he was looking for that first one week, right? Yeah. But no, it was one a week to like twenty different coaches two hundred yet by by the took him like maybe three or four months of doing this at the college was working at. But eventually, the the nice, ladies and the post department would just like we're just going to give you free stamps buzz send out so many of these things. Yeah. He's he's one of a kind, right? Let's do this tournament. So big picture. No one got snubbed. Right. Yeah. I had sixty eight teams on my ballot today like that we're going to make the tournament and I'd sixty seven TCU instead of Belmont. So we're splitting atoms if you worry about that. But yeah, I think the coming into the job. Okay. And then any other I heard a lot of people obviously were complaining about Michigan state. I I'm in the mindset of seeding doesn't really matter. Because it all blows up. Anyway, like if you wanna predict it Michigan state's can play a tough team in the Sweet Sixteen that team might not even be there. So do you think any team has a legit gripe with that? No, I don't like I think, you know, you look at things right now. Like, I look a lot of people think that North Carolina had the toughest row. I actually think Inzaghi does. Now, I also have names for all four regions. Oh, I wanna hear my name's forget. So I just might cook. You out of this here. Mine is top left. Bottom left top right bottom. Right. That way standardize across all the networks. Yeah. I like that. Now, I've got in the east region. I see Duke with all their MBA prospects. I obviously see, you know, Nikila exander Walker Virginia Tech Reggie period. You know, Mississippi State also Bruno for Nando in Maryland LSU's got players, and you know, you can say the same thing, but other teams at the region of prospects. Okay. And then, you know, look in the west region, and I see just so much pop. John moran. Marcus Howard, tie battle ROY. Hotch more Jarrett. Culver Shinwari ponds legance Dort the Martin twins, Jordan. Caroline. It's the region of sizzle. Okay. What happened in Nevada this year? I I'm a big Nevada guy. But like they've kinda disappointed a little. See also tough for them to not not getting the same toonces other league. True true. So tell me, right. Hop up sizzle region of prospects and region of sizzle like a end and rest Krispies thing could go for snack, by the way in the south region. Look at these teams Cincinnati Tennessee Virginia Purdue Kansas state, Wisconsin the region of grind. Yes. Grit and grind right there. Yeah. No score. And then bottom right as you would say, PF, t- Carolina, all burn Kentucky. Houston can push. It all just see the region of pace. Yep. Pace and space as love Hase, grind, sizzle and prospects. I like those those are actually all fit. So give us the where we wanna start. Why don't you give us starting with teams that you see lower seeded teams that can make some noise. We're big make noise guys. So we wanna give people some tips when filling out there in the region of prospects. I think Maryland east east region up I've got I've got Duke obviously going to the final. But I think Maryland is, you know, vastly forgotten because of the way they played in the big ten tournament. Matt painter told me a couple of weeks ago. He thought aside from Purdue Michigan Michigan state. He thought Maryland could make the deepest run the villa. Termine? That's an NBA four five. I'm going to roll the dice on them. I'm gonna take Maryland out. The Maryland wins two games. They'll be playing in Washington DC. I'm gonna take Duke over Maryland in the in the east regional final in the region is Obama on out. I got his Obon out in the Sweet Sixteen. Do you think he's overrated? No. I don't think it'll shit trying to get that buzzed on take squatting. You know, what Callan how calendars are in state of Michigan? He's Lansing January. February is a major. So wait is oh this is actually good. We'll do it this way the by region. So Michigan state. Why do you think like, what's their weakness? Well, I just you know, look at Michigan state and their a team. Let's face. It is you know, a team that's been battled in that's battled injuries. They've been banged up. And I always look for certain circumstances where you know teams that may be haven't performed well, but have tremendous talent can shine through. And I also think and this is I think the upset I'm pick. You gotta roll the dice somewhere the up LSU. You guys know, we'll wait isn't coaching suspended indefinitely heck of a coach he's not going to be with his team since LSU has not had will Wade. They beat Vanderbilt team that didn't win a game in the SEC. And they lost a Florida yell has an MBA prospect in mediate Oni, which don't really see on an Ivy league team push it to their top four scores or juniors and seniors. I just think that one of the things that isn't going to be talked about Soma. What do doesn't have Zion? LSU doesn't have its coach. Right. And I'm gonna take Yale. L to beat LSU. And then I'm going to that opens the door for Maryland to to win a couple of games in the region of prospects. I got do over Maryland in the east regional final there. I don't think that there's a match up of schools that are less alike than LSU jail. Just general. Now, let me put this out here. If LSU wins at first game. Do they match better against Maryland than they match-up against Yale? I mean, I think you know, the thing to look at is you're not going to see. Rational things happened in the NC double A tournament. Right. LSU matches up, you know, really good with Maryland. But I just think James Jones is a coach jails wanna game. You gotta roll the dice somewhere. I don't like the optics for LSU. I thought that became on raveled at the end of that Florida game. They did they did they had that game. All right. So the sizzle re-genesis west west region. Okay. Dangerous game friggin zag and the round of thirty two against Eric. Especially on a quick turnaround. I'm gonna take zags and game. Nothing. Zach Norval be good. I've got Gonzaga against Florida state in the Sweet Sixteen Leonard Hamilton, kind of the sentimental favourite turnament seven years seven years old, and that's a rematch of the Sweet Sixteen. You know, we saw last year. I got Florida state for the second straight year beating zag they will take on Michigan in the region of sizzle and again another team off the radar Michigan's loss to Michigan say three times. But be line. We know great in the tournament veteran team Xavier Simpson out of the region. Fizzle? I've got Michigan. Okay. Dancing to the final four. So I got Duke Michigan due to the region of prospects Michigan out of the region. Sizzle what about talk to me real quick about this game that everyone's got circled down Marquette versus Murray state Djalmir adverse, Marcus Howard. Do you think Mercedes got chances? They definitely got a chance. I mean, how rare is it that a mid major team at twelve seat has the best player on the floor. But one thing I think you need to take into account the big difference that you need to look at when mid majors play. High majors is size up front. Yup. Feo John Edmore on Wisconsin fan doesn't wanna hear that. No. But I just think too much inside. I'm gonna go with Marquette. Okay. All right. I mean, that's very small my rules with with the turtles you can give maybe some big picture rules. But I'm always the size up front, but also veteran point guards. Because obviously that's big and then free throw shooting has no question. No question. All right. The region of grit and grind ridge, grit and grind. Okay. You can say Ron you. Do we're not going to we're. Reprogram what hold on? I'm gonna make you say grit and grind. I only so many characters in the tweet though. I don't wanna go there, and you're gonna you're gonna throw me off. That was also by the grizzlies, right? Yeah. All right. So we're gonna grind all right here. Yeah. Okay. My breakthrough in this region. I'm gonna take Oregon the sweets yachting, which I know they're playing hot. But here's here's my question. You about that they play in the Pac twelve correct? So they've been unbelievable. I've bet on them a bunch the last like basically this whole entire Pac twelve tournament. I was putting Oregon and going point guard waking I do paintbrush played. I let me ask you a question though. Do you not think that the Pac twelve like the teams were playing? It's a step up when you're playing a big ten like the big ten was good this year. No good. Like six teams that were very very solid organs. Defense has been, you know, sensational the held Washington under fifty twice, and as we know Wisconsin has struggled to score think. It's a really putting understatement matchup and they've got a guy up front multiple players. But in Kenny Wooten that can protect the front of the rim. I mean, okay. I like I like the makeup of that fifty in that game. I v. Fifty. So in the region grind, I got Virginia against Oregon. And then Purdue, you know, map painters nouveau Ryan decks Matt painter against Cincinnati. Cincinnati. Did not get a great seed, but they are playing in Columbus. So I'm gonna take Purdue against insane Sweet Sixteen and I got Virginia. Over Purdue Virginia fittingly comes out of the region. Grind. Okay. So you have Cincinnati over Tennessee in the second round lying in Columbus playing club. That's your day two hours away from Cincinnati campus. Now, do you think that's fair? Thanks part of the NCAA tournament. You know, Wisconsin. If you remember it was, I know you're say two thousand fifteen when they beat Oregon in Milwaukee. But they also lost pit in Milwaukee. We Houser when Jamie Dixon was the coaches bullshit that we got to succeed. I actually talked about this at the beginning of the show that the Sundays don't mean anything the championship Sunday doesn't mean anything because they won the championship. If you remember that year against Illinois, those two thousand four two thousand three four thousand three two thousand four so pit went on and lost to Oklahoma state who then lost a Saint. Joe's in the east regional final when John Lucas the third made the shot. Yep. Yuck. So Oklahoma say beat Saint Joe's. Yes. So all right. So Tennessee Cincinnati I- Cincinnati has played lights out since Mick Cronin said he was going to have football players come to practice open trial. He's more consistent than if you good men on the range. Wait, we got. So who who's coming out of that bracket, Virginia and the grind Virginia. Okay. So then in the region of pace, I got Carolina against Auburn which could be in a first one hundred sixty wins. Then I'm gonna take Houston against Kentucky. I got Carolina Kentucky in the regional fund. Please. That would be that's got Sunday, five o'clock on no. That's gonna be awesome last shot. Can I get a kind of thing glass of water? We got your film, Dustin Hoffman and outbreak. All right, actually, like one of my favorite movies of all time. Russo getting run that for a while. Until she likes. She got the disease at the end. She started looking at that got the they, you know, they sedated the monkey and they got the syrup those tough to watch the monkey got shot when it was about to go after the little girl. Right. Cuff tough seeing then we spoiled it all and everybody dies. I got Carolina over Kentucky. Now, my thing is this. The world is going to pick Duke won the national championship. Correct. All right. So. Yeah. So I've got due to the reason of prospects. Michigan the reason sizzle North Carolina at of the region of pace and Virginia out of the region of grinds your ACC Hollick. Well, I've said for about a month right now that I thought the ACC had a chance to get three. Once they got three ones Virginia as always had North Carolina's number, but I felt watching North Carolina against Duke in the ACC tournament. Kind of like I felt during round two of rocky drag on rocky four okay because Duke was always like on a different level this year that they don't have any veterans. I don't grace now. And they don't have Quinn cook. But Carolina traded blows for forty minutes. And it was kind of reminded me of the Russians cut the and it's a bad cut. Yeah. And it's rocky Balboa going after I've drag okay? So North Carolina over Virginia Duke over Michigan. And in phase, four awhile, North Carolina and Duke who can we haven't had that in the NC double A tournament yet. I know that do Kazan Williamson and always more machine than man, just like, you know. Want kanobi told Luke Skywalker when he was describing against guy. Walker can Star Wars Episode for I think North Carolina. Beats Dukhan the national which could be one of the great national title ever ever had. If we have the that would be just huge ratings who's Duke Carolina in phase four he's four pushing just you know, where from in two thousand fourteen Duke Wisconsin played Kentucky in the final four and the whole next year. There was talk that they were going to be in the same region. And I know it needs to be phased to it's a fun of four game in twenty fifteen. I one with face to face for how much college basketball. Do you think like is just bouncing around in your head? When you do you watch other sports. No, none. No. NFL socially. I would like to watch or coach socially. I will. But yeah, no real interest. Just like basically just to have friends still. Yeah. Like exactly like, John chombiono. Does a great job at ESPN. He he's a buddy of mine like one time like in the fall minimum watch college football like bar coast on the upper side, get the wings carry style. If you go, okay, it'll change your life. That was like the last time. I remember watching a non college basketball. I watch I go you I went to a Super Bowl party last couple of years ago. And I was like why are they taking extra points so far back and change the rule. I watch the SuperBowl. Every year, my friend has a great part in six straight. Unbelievable to we'll make sure check it out. Yeah. I feel humble if I don't feel hungry. Do do you watch like the rest of the playoffs? NFL laughs, socially, socially. Conflicts with college. I'll be tweeting about, you know, the Cincinnati UCF game over like, you know, the pet Eric Mahomes, whatever so you'll be in the same room as television that's showing NFL game. But you'll be watching like on your phone not even that like I would say like if if there's a big college basketball game watching a big college basketball game I care about the non conference game between US UCF in Alabama the difference on the bubbling they late today. That's why you're that's why you got sixty seven sixty correct. I appreciate probably should've watched a little more TCU. I watched a lot of TCU. And I stink. I used to you know, if Jalen Fisher was healthy. Yeah. I might have been the best team in the big did get a little they fell apart at the end. But they got Desmond bane a member of the league shadows. Yes. Wait. So wait, how many do you have in your house to to? How do you keep track of all the games? What you know? I've got a computer my girlfriend has a computer I have a phone. So sometimes, you know, destruction on there. I mean, she's not a big fan of of the seasons. How does that possibly work for you to be with somebody? That's not a fan of she's a very independent girl, and she gets it. And just you know, when the season's over, you know, I just have to kind of like, you know, be more meaningful to being a normal civilian. Where do you would you talk about with it though, it seems like you like your brain is filled with college basketball. Yeah. I mean, he's talking about other stuff. I was gonna say more like mid nineties. Okay. Yeah. Mid ninety things like that. I have one question about the was the prospects region. That's that's one do. Right. Give me tell me the formula for how Duke will lose in the round L. We'll say the Sweet Sixteen gets for tech. Let's assume Virginia Tech beat do. Good zion. I actually think this, and I don't think duke's gonna lose this game. But UCF I have over VCU in the first round of the region of prospects. Now UCF is a team that makes you go over the top of the defense because they're so physical taco fall. Seven foot men the power forward, Colin Smith transfer from GW, they got another bruiser Chad Brown. On that game. If it comes to do against UCF Johnny Dawkins against coach K that will test dukes outside shooting. They're gonna have to. Right now. But that's the entry. Now. I don't think they're gonna lose. Do you? See that's the scenario. They'll have to make some shots. Right. It'd be low scoring how many names do, you know, how many players names, do, you know, in college a lot a lot. And you forget the ones like you get rid of the ones that you don't need after the season. No, not really, I think you you storm somewhere. Like, I remember like, you know, the first time I really kind of really decided to do was March twenty thousand nineteen Ninety-one. Okay. UNLV and the final four seventy nine seventy seven Leitner made the two free throws there's ever since. Then I've just kinda stored things in different areas your robot. I don't think we're robot named five players that would be a what a robot with five players and Saint Mary's Saint Mary's Jordan Ford Maliki fits. Oh, converse jock Perry. Okay, three's. Good. It's pretty good for Saint Mary Jordan honor. Okay. Fifteen rebounds against Gonzaga. Of course. Okay. Tanta cribs actually played really well against VC union see tournament a couple years ago. Okay. Player. I remember I was out of Saint Mary's workout of that in northern California last summer. I went by Christian Zork who is supposed to be good player got hurt. Yeah. And if you go to every Jim basically right about thirty five forty Pratt. You do a whole tour all the time. Like when does it start? I'd say, you know, I think I need, you know, a little bit of time just to decompress after these. I do draft stuff and things like that. And there's always if there's most the coaching stuff done after the final four, right news. But I think, you know, April may after the NBA draft stuff is done you take a little time. And then July what I really liked to do is. When teams are taking like foreign tours, and you can go see Michelle see in practice. Right. Like, I got out there in July last year. I went out and July to the mid west. I saw Cincinnati Ohio state Xavier Taki was a great trip. Right. Okay. You know, it's ally. Kentucky practice, right, right? Is that what do you mean, foreign tours? They're getting ready to die every four years the NCAA let you take a foreign tour where you can play a couple of exhibition games, and you can have ten practices. Okay. So it's like, you know, you're starting training camp. Right. And so on and so forth. But I knew those teams at a chance to be good three hundred term. It's like that's a productive week. You should try to go on a foreign tour VCU to your own. No, no, no, no. He's not leaving go to Europe with VCU. Do you have change your life? I have a best board. I once went to a wedding for my boss. My former boss, oh, I love at. Takaona and the Dominican Republic, climbing the walls a little. Have you ever had a conversation with Bill? No I'd love to. I would love to see that conversation. I, you know, I live tweet him in patch. I love Baltin Pash Lovell. Great guy. All right. My last question. It's actually the Seekie question. If you wanna go to a game they wanna go to tournament game put promo code take at seek. He get ten dollars off. That's promo code take seek ten dollars off cozy a March madness game since you know, every player, and you have all this knowledge. Tell me your all time favorite big big guy from Wisconsin, white big guy from Wisconsin. Why it's a great question. Thank you. All time favorite white. The big guys do do can count. Ye yeah. He's not. It's our forward center. It's kamensky. Okay. It's commenced Brian Butch all merit which had that game against pit in the non conference from Orlando tuck. Yes on the that decade day he had a big game. But it's Kaminsky. Okay. Brian Butch was just the the funniest because it was like he was a McDonald's all American because they got a space it out. And it's like this guy is not a McDonald's all American. So the whole time I was like he could be good eventually, and no he wasn't. Yeah. I mean disappointing, but it's amazing what boat did there. Yeah. And it's I think it's you know, Greg guard had the injuries last year. But he's done a good job. I just the the the team for me that I thought had a chance to maybe get to a final four was the team lost to Notre Dame. They had the veto Brown makes that three and then the kind of gave the game away, Wisconsin. This is thing. I remember being practice. They would go crazy when they would be a turnover foul because that's the system. Don't turn it over. You. Don't file, you know, put the team in the bonus. Right. You got a great chance to win. Right. And then they never. Planned, coach K paying the refs at halftime that off shore. We'll just end it that way, John Rossi, and this has been a Larry awesome. I hope you had fun. I had a blast guy off. You march. This is March the best the best three words in Twitter. This March you say it again when we're this much. All right. Yeah. Are you just so excited right now? I like, I tell people all the time. You know, everybody says well you wake up like your kid on Christmas. You know in our house the big night of Hannukah was the eighth night. And that was the night of like the super present in our house. I'm so much more excited than I ever got the super presence in the Russell the whole month. Now, I mean, this is the thing that's great about March madness. Everything logically that you think is going to happen. The polar opposite is going to occur last year. I remember studying so much about Vermont the America east because I loved Anthony land. They were old as maybe this team could be somebody who pick somebody off. They lose to this UNBC team wasn't the top team in their league. And what happens right? He wouldn't be just beat Virginia and be the first sixty to one that went by twenty right twenty crazy. I mean, this is something again you can't project. You can't predict. But this is what makes the next three weeks the best three weeks in sports. And it's not even close like it. I love it. Do you have a favorite moment from March? Well, it's a great question. Great question. Thank you. I mean, you want to give me like, you get a few or no I want you to I'll give you three, but you have to pick one that's top favorite top favorite. You know? I mean, it's hard to pick one for shore. I remember of all the players I covered. I just love watching Shabazz Napier more than you know, I think any other guard that I covered so as great as Kemba Walker wasn't two thousand eleven I loved watching Shabazz. And I thought that twenty fourteen Rome's pretty special when I was starting my career out. I was doing like four jobs. I was doing you know, updates string for ESPN Radio New York. And I was working for my friend's brother who ran like a real estate company, and I was freelance writing college hoops for FOX boards dot com. But I had with the money. I was making I was buying airtime on a radio station in Westchester county. So I could get like, you know, a demo. Yeah. And it was this little, you know, radio station, Westchester county, one dentist office got it was like five hundred watts, but I got Billy Donovan on damn, you know, the year after they won the national championship. And it was six and then I remember the following. April. I was the first final four. I went to as a member of the media. And I watched them win back to back. And you guys know what it's like in the journey. It's like you feel like wow. It's like I got this guy on my show. And now I'm here hearing, I'm asking a question press conference. I just I remember being like really really just, you know, mesmerized for just how good that team was and they played Ohio State who had Odin and calm, and it was just awesome team in Odin got files Lee Humphrey didn't miss a three that year from him. I on and with that was the team in. I I might be making this up, but they broke the net with a swish one time. Right. Yeah. I mean that team was one of the great college teams that we see in. And I think the only team by the way, that's this year will be the first year. I assume do wow, maybe not three top ten guys. But this that was the only team ever that had three top ten guys in the draft. Yeah. Crazy to think like crazy UNC you've never had that. And I I would say other moments that stand out I know he has for three. But just stand out. Just remember not believe what happened when Indiana Duke. In two thousand two Jared Jeffries. Yup. It came back that was amazing Yukon beating Duke in ninety nine and then Duke, I just remember when I first got into this. How good Vegas was with L Jay Stacy Augmon, Greg, Anthony and. You know, just Duke ending the the forty five game winning streak. I remember this vividly because my parents who I loved to death. They've been married now it's going to be forty four years, and you know, just a handful of fights and my father, you know, learned early, you know, don't, you know, put your foot down too much. My mother had a plan to go to dinner like with her friend from college and her husband, and I remember early. My my father saying, I'm not going. I'm not missing this game. It has a chance to be an all time game. And I just remember, you know, Leitner hitting Jew free throws a sheet you for life it shaped me. And then and then like really I mean, I haven't really stopped following right? Since March twenty third nineteen Ninety-one. That's it. I love it. All right, John. Thank you. 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What's you don't go to movies do anything like every, you know, you get all the screeners into your home movie theater and all that shit? You don't have to the fly in these poor people airports, you just found out about this Chrissy Teigen. Yeah. It's pretty incredible. I remember like George H W Bush when he was president he found out what a supermarket scanner was. Yeah. First time. I'm just I can't wait till Christie finds out about Uber. It's going to be insane. Yeah. She figures out that you can call Carr, like call a cab to your house that's going to be wild. Good for her. Yeah. Or less or about chocolate milk. Oh, which that breaking brought to you by for recovery that tastes real good? They were gonna like it. Up to you. We got all integrated ads. Yeah. That's awesome. Tam that that is pretty sweet, that's and not know what soda machine is like how how do you go? How do you this long? I mean, I would guess like five years ago. It was new. During seven every Chick-fil-A during everywhere there in everywhere. Eat super healthy all the time. Yeah. That's true. So she that was cheat. It was cheat day of the year. It tells me that had a Dr Pepper tells me that John legend doesn't take her out to watch movies. Yeah. They don't they don't go on dates anymore. It said here the breaking up Tam Tam that is an awesome existence. All right. Let's do some segments for sub. We have LeBron blames. He was caught sitting at the end of the bench in mecca. He loves playing in the mecca and having really far away from all of his teammates. Clyde Frazier took him to task. And then he was blocked for the game winner who walked him. Mario zone. Yeah. Yeah. So LeBron blames. I just listen. I'm not your LeBron STAN PF t. Lebron James is on tanking team. Don't you think that he was sitting far enough away from his teammates? Because maybe he wanted to give them their space. He's being respectful of their personal barriers won't even let me finish you sitting in James Dolan lap. His like, I wanna be Nick. Okay. Yeah. Even better. I like this Jeff Gundy put it out in the universe link last week that the Lakers should trade LeBron. And it's awesome cheese. They showed shows like his. There's a little something contracts. Probably no trade clause. Yeah. I don't know. They should just be like, hey, LeBron. Sorry that will be pretty funny. If they wanted AD in LA, if they snuck a contract passing that didn't have the no-trade clause, and then they just ship them till I guess, all right. We have a respective is this one is for Bradley the school, and they they made the March they made the tournament for the first time like twenty years and their coach basically banned one of the writers from writing about it because he said he had a bad attitude. Big j. Yeah, what was the exact quota the quote was he didn't do enough to promote the Bradley brand. Which as we know that like if you're a local reporter, whereas Bradley located Illinois. Okay. That's what's interesting is. It's basically if the United States gets into a war with a country, or if it's March madness, those are the only time of year that we ever learned about geography, right? I know where so many shitty Wofford school. South carolina. There you go. Yeah. Gardner webb. No idea where I don't either. Yeah. Anyone Gardner Webb? Good answer. Okay. That's nice. North carolina. Okay. Nice. Very interesting. Yeah. But those are the only two reasons for us to learn geography, but I'm if Obama your country or if you're you're playing against my team in the second round. Yeah. They're fifteen seaplane Kansas. Yeah. And they're going to in there. We won't even remember that you in the tournament after forty minutes. Right. You'll be the team that that was like down five points to Kansas with ten minutes left ten years ago. And we all forgot your name. Yes. We what team was that. Yeah. You know? Holy Cross thousand I think, right. I think Holy Cross was close. Yeah. I took them to overtime as a fifteen seed. Yeah. I was actually looking up. I love the sorry. I was looking up the Vermeil watching that Vermont game. Look it up Taylor Coppenrath. You got Vermont is automated like right into the next round. Just just just because Taylor cocktail Coppenrath fucking twenty years ago. The final score was seventy to fifty nine Kansas, and but Holy Cross up at halftime. And we still talk about to this day. Yes. Exactly. So those those those teams in those guys live on forever. Yep. So wait. So the Bradley how does this story end. He's is he backers yet all the big J's caused a big stir. They the United behind their their scribe and somebody suggested that as a symbol after their first game in the tournament all the all the journalists recovering Bradley should stand up together and collectively walk out when their coach I like microphone walk walk out. Good old fashioned walk. I mean, this is the this is the dumbest thing you can do if you're a small school because everyone loves rooting for the small schools. Everyone wants to make you know, the next sister Jean story real, but the bad way to do that is to piss off all the journalists who would cover your school like ad nauseam to the point where everyone everyone was sick of a fucking nine year old lady last year. Think about that. You can have that dude. But you ruined it. Because. People weren't promoting the brand enough. Who's the new sister Jean this year? I was coach definitely pay. None to just hang out around my team, Hanks cat Hank's. We should get a whole system Brown. Yeah. Yeah. We we we're we record John Rossi and after the show, but we're member the time in the interview when we told them they should write about Hank's cat. Yes. Okay. Yeah. That was. Yeah. Those wild to the whoa. That was a what? Yeah. We have a new segment new segment art. Af af. Johnny men's in the yes, alternate title for this segment is af remember that remember when we got into af for week. Yeah. Well, they've got into for week. They you never did know. Oh, cool. Wow. Very, hey. This is sports podcast. You're hired bragging about how you don't watch sports. We'll know but one point record late on Sunday because the af and we were like that makes no sense fucking. I said to Hank was like, yo we have to do this. If record lead on Sunday nights for the AFL kill myself. I love football. And that was I got a little over my skis on that. I'll be honest. But yeah, they figured out what I like to call the golden triangle. They're starting to to approach my theory, which is if you can get Johnny Manziel, Tim Tibo, Colin Kaepernick, it any two of those three if you have two of those three quarterbacks in your league, people tune in and droves to watch it. Yeah. And they've got one of them. And and if you think I'm not going to watch Johnny Manziel, everyone is when he plays for the for the Memphis express. My Memphis express, your insane also him we Mike single Terry's going to be just Italian chef kissing fingers. Not this was their last move for like gain any kind of relevance, especially during March madness. And this is it like, we will watch a Christian hackenberg. I'm pretty sure got hurt. No. I'm pretty sure, you know. No, okay. Benton burger got Zack Minton burger hackenberg. Fine, put them in a safe room. But. Having Johnny Manziel play game. Like, everyone will watch. Yes. That is what Johnny Manziel is that he is like they should play this game on CBS before this actually played on Monday afternoon after the tournament. He loves something. He should just be all-time quarterback for both teams. Yeah. And so the af hats off to you wonder little af stat update ready for this Trent Richardson. Five games. Played tell me how many touchdowns and how many yards? He's rush for. Okay. So I'm going to say that he has five games. He has eight touchdowns. And I don't know how many yards, but it's probably an average of three point one yards. You were right on once. We eight touchdowns he has seventy five attempts for hundred eighty one yards for a two point four perfect Trent Bridge. Yes. He's almost a human. I down if you just ran it four downs. Yeah. Ryan Grigson is he's like on the phone right now on that trait. Yes trait. If you look at it touchdown for five games and say what you want about him. He's very efficient. He doesn't need a lot of York's gives touchdown point my running back, works, smart and work hard longest rush. Twenty two yards. Ten yards. And that was a effort does so good. All right last. We have a this league Janas dunk on Ben Simmons and said he's a fucking baby. A baby this league, man. This league crazy it is it more disrespectful to call somebody fucking baby or a baby back pitch. Fucking baby is pretty pretty disrespectful. Shoutout. Katie for shouting us out that he watches our every move back bitch. And I do like, Katie. Yeah. Yeah. On the show swung entirely for me. I I'm simultaneously. A LeBron San Katie stand both to future New York Knicks. Well, he's starting to embrace the fact that he like talking about his burners and being like, yeah. I read everything I think Kevin Durant is actually just a normal person. Yeah. He just doesn't act like he's the problems for a long time. He pretended. He like he tried to say was it turns out. No. He's just a normal. Right. He's exactly like us, except he's got a slightly wetter jumper than me and sweet tattoos business. I can and he can't inches much as me. No. That's actually, very all. Right. Let's finish up. We have a Monday reading this one's doozy. It's coming from vice we actually alluded to it last week. It is titled my month inside a group of people who drink their own piss. Okay. All right. So let's start it off the first line. All right, everyone. Let's start off our day with a nice tall glasses piss. Okay. Dad? Get to me. That's it's another day. In the Facebook group urine therapy. The real universal remedy of forum. I joined exactly a month ago when I noticed drinking one's own P was in the news as it is again today. It's in wasn't really I don't think it was ever in the news. It wasn't the news. He saw like I dunno recommended on his Google rhythm for him. Yes. So yeah. Constantly is anybody drinking piss yet in America in the Facebook description? The group says at urine therapy opens the doors of your soul healing, every party or being UT refers not just to the drinking of one's own pissed but also the bathing in it, and it's consumption through the nostrils, by the way, one of the things pissed now like with a straw, chopping up in line freezing it and using his ice cubes one of the things I like the most in the world is when people jump really quickly into their own little acronym for whatever weird thing they're doing like they mentioned urine therapy wants glossed over that. And now all of a sudden, we're calling we've agreed to call it UT, Texas back. That's right. Yeah. You dream home piss UT. Let's go TI should. Should call. So he goes on. He's in this Facebook group every post in the Facebook group is capable surprising me shortly after I joined when asked group what they most like about urine therapy. It gave me more energy more flexibility, more clarity of mind. More -bility too fast for longer. So it's so it's helping you fast doing like one junk science thing to facilitate another to make you more efficient at a different. It lets me put my fight in necklaces on much more easily it let's drink my cauliflower juice, the cures cancer a lot easier. Yeah. So I could actually understand why would help fasting because it's probably going to take away your appetite because you're drinking glass if your own hot piss for some reason, I don't feel like eating much when I'm drinking my pistol day. Yeah. All right. So more Billy too fast for longer in a great understanding of how are full food is to our baby. This guy has someone another ads. That's why I love about it. It's a feedback loop to measure how your body eat beef and fries in new urine will taste like asks. That's how you can tell like that. You shouldn't be eating something one song. I saw one meal. I can't do that. Because it makes piss taste. Oh, man. Someone else says there's a spare make your piss tastes great. I bet it doesn't healthy. Someone else says that they like the increase vibration. It's very penal gland cleansing it's leading to spiritual enlightenment for me. I had the ceiling open one morning and love just poured out. Over me words cannot describe what I felt it was real yet. Unreal. Wow. We are so loved dude. I think you drank your ecstasy piss too, much e- e-, you you went to a rave, and then you pissed into it. And then he did it again. And then on a Sunday morning you woke up, and you were still rolling this guy needs a hobby more than anything. It's a bunch of people, by the way, just get a hobby. Like, you you board you have to be to resort to drinking your own pissed for fun. Yeah. Not because you have to not because you're dying of thirst. But just because you're looking for a weird outlet in your life or something right about imagine. How many things that this guy is exhausted like different hobbies and things he's gotten into to write about on a shitty? Blog that now he's reached drinking piss, okay? Quick side tangent. I've had I've drank one shot of piss before. I have also. Yes, I drink disclosure. Yeah. Full disclosure for everyone out there. It was actually when in college. When I was it was I can explain it. It was I was doing steroids. So I provided clean piss my own cleaned piss and saved it in the refrigerator. And then that's a bad thing to have around like when you're just drinking in college. Wouldn't it be? Hey, if you lose this, you got drink the pissed it's been sitting in there for raider wasn't good. I it was clean, no steroids. I've actually done it before. Okay. So that's a little bit better than my like. Like. Pass it. I drank because I was also trying steroids. Yeah. Well, no, I think that's a lot cooler, actually. Yeah. Probably. Yes. Yeah. True. I was just going to the gym. I just use it just had a lack of awareness on my part. All right. So on January someone asks the group if they can drink someone else's piss because drinking their nephews went down so much easier to fuck someone pops in the comment that the post is being reported in the people are uneasy with thank God their rules. Listen their guidelines that we adhere to and the pissed goes lers for them. Okay. You drink your own piss way is it weird or to drink a young person's piston to drink an old person's piss all we're gonna get to that. We're gonna get that. Don't you worry? Perhaps. It was the way you worded it they say in early February someone else says I've been fasting during urine eating wants day for a couple of weeks now yesterday experience something very different. My vision started to flicker it was like I could see another dimension to you're just dying your dying. You're you're drinking yourself to death with your own piss. If you're drowning yourself and piss, okay. So can it will is it possible? How you can get that thing that syndrome if you drink too much, water yourselves flood, and you die, right? Can you? Can you drown yourself by drinking too much of your own piss? I I would assume so yeah, that'd be that's actually pretty fucking medal way to die. So it will not shock. You PF t to learn that a lot of these people in this group are paranoid of big science. So the guy goes on because he starts interviewing people the paranoia in the community is alarming if your therapies is as effective as people claim I ask allegedly day that's his name. Yeah. The same. He's so paranoid. He allegedly has a name. My parents call me, Dave, I did not elect that name own. All right. So I asked literally, Dave why doctors wouldn't simply prescribe it? He tells me that I haven't high eve view of the world and that all the medical industries trying to reduce the population. By ninety percent fact read the UN Security Council Kyoto seventy subsection five c three pro humanoids China's per the Joe Rogan podcast. I asked him what he would do if he got cancer tomorrow. He says this would never happen. If it did he would fall alternative health teachings of Dr John beard, Dr Otto Warburg, Dr Ernst t Krebs Dr Bruce Lipton that's a fake name when I look up Dr Ernst t Krebs I discovered that he was a con Man Who Wasn't a doctor and promoted all sorts of bogus treatments. That's fucked up. That's really fucked up Dr Bronner guy that does that. So with all with the manifesto written down Lipton. All right. One of the face. Book groups administrators who asked to remain anonymous. I wonder why says the group isn't for promoting urine therapy simply for discussing it. She worries that people ridicule the group members. Yeah. That's what we're doing right now. They can fleet urine therapy with anti vaccination. Yeah. They don't wanna be those crazy. We don't want to be associated with the and if you were to look at the membership in this group probably ninety five percent of also are members of like what one of the. Diagrams one big circle as so if you were to ask the members of an anti vacs group, they would probably be like, no, we don't we don't be associated with group stricken there on those people. They're snorting pests, just the wives or anti vaccine and all their husbands pissed unbelievable wrap up here, yin and Yang. I asked I asked her why medical experts wouldn't prescribe urine if it cured almost every disease on earth medicine is evidence based if they haven't got evidence it is affected. They cannot prescribe it she answers I used to be able to be open with my doctor and tell them about urine therapy, and he would take interest. Now, he just roughly says don't drink your urine. Or don't stick your your up your nose? Fuck man. All right last up lease partner in urine therapy. Fabian Fargo Hartson is thirty seven years old and from the Midland's he and Leanne now have a talk show called Alkalis to realize that's fucking pass talkshow Alkalis to realize but defined talk. They'll you do a Facebook. Yeah. As well. As an aged urine Facebook group, not not a Facebook group. That's old. Yeah. Angie? The urine is old and it's a face thirty like like, whiskey or wine better. Yes. Phoebe and says he'd like to help homeless people with age urine therapy. He says it started listen like that's like, you're basically, you're one step away from being the world's biggest jackass being like, you know, what let's test it on homeless ping. Mary Antoinette said let them eat cake person saying let them drink their own piss. No, let them drink their own aged. Yes. So yeah, good stuff. So if you're on the street piss into a Mason jar like hide it under some leaves for weak very underground lip for meant for a little bit. And then come back and you'll be good to go. He says it starting your therapy around two years. Let me just buy me a beer as part of his spiritual practice increases energy when I asked what treatment he would seek if he were to get cancer. He says he would drink aged urine. I used to think the same as you lead tells I did I really? Did until I got ill everybody that goes on it. It just changes their life or hypnotizing you and tells you a lotta lies. It's one of the two. Yeah. I love these people because if you talk to someone like this like these crazy people long enough, they'll eventually tell on themselves. So he literally just admitted that its hypnotize him to the point where he's just telling a load allies that like urine during your own urines. Good for you. Well, it is sterile. Yeah. So the very dangerous line that came out is everybody always says, you know, pee is sterile. It's fine to like if you're on a cut or something pee on jellyfish thing. Yep. That's fine. And so we're got out that p is is good for you in certain medical circumstances. And they took it to the next logical step. It's like, let's just let snort it. Let's drink it. Let's let's main line it they member when the kids a few years ago were were dipping tampons and vodka than putting up there. But yeah, I do remember that that was chugging hip put showing wine make jackass, but when. No cameras yet. Honestly like, I would much rather bug. Like gimme Ann Arbor mist up my, but let me get drunk out rather do that than drink my own P. But chucking chugging urine is definitely a. You're you're crossing all the wires. That is your body's not going. There are certain liquids unprepared to be inside my colon. And I would say that piss is the very last one. All right. So I wanted to a call out if anyone knows anyone in the greater New York area who has a friend that drinks his own urine on the regular. We'd love to interview have them come in. We will drink our own urine to test. It. We will. Yeah. Piss vampires. Like, right if we find Roger Goodell, that's how he can tell if you're taking recreational marijuana. Yeah. Just sips your piss. Let's get some all ya. We're doing it for the people. You know, we need to find someone. So if you know someone who's big into UT big cats going home in here. Yeah. No, we'll drink each. We'll do like piss, relax. You don't know. Who's picture drink to swap? Yeah. I'll be able to tell if it's my piss. Yeah. Hopefully, it's hopefully, it's like an elderly person we get some that age urine. Go pissing out, all your muscles and iron. Yeah. All right. That's our show on Wednesday. We have our good friend. Mark Titus joining us. So we'll do more bracket talk. Maybe he'll apologize to everyone for his last performance in how terrible that went. I I can't believe we're having Monceau soon. It's actually kinda crazy. Here's the thing. When you when you have an interview like that when your guests really sticks his mouth, you usually give it some time. And and let them do the public apology towards I don't know if he's changed. I don't know. I don't know. If he's like accepted responsibility food, he said, we'll find out. We will. We will demand an apology on Wednesdays interview him, and we'll see how he reacts got guys. It's pardon. My take presented by bar stool sports.

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T&T Classic: Syracuse vs. Kansas 2003 National Championship

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T&T Classic: Syracuse vs. Kansas 2003 National Championship

"Today's episode of Titus. And tell you when we will be revisiting the two thousand three national championship game between the Syracuse Orange and the Kansas Jayhawks. That is on. The docket is a classic you pick this. Were excited to talk about it. We're very excited and I will say it's good to be back on the set with a TNT classic. It's good to watch basketball. We'VE BEEN. It's been a long time since we watched a basketball game and been able to give them some sort of commentary whether it be no game that actually matters or dislike you and I link pickup in just talking about what happened with you and I play basketball so it's nice to give back in that world. I see a lot of Kansas fans out the world I've put out. Hey we're going to talk about this game. They're upset all some guy conjured up a whole story about seeing Dean Smith wearing the Jayhawks sticker on his shirt after the game when they lost it. Really Tugs my heartstrings. So I feel bad for for all the Kansas fans out there so so the precursor is this isn't to put Kansas down through just to talk about college basketball. You get bill self in you know he's GonNa come very soon. That'll be great for you guys. You got a title on the way in about the about the bad something about the good time. Kansas fans want us to talk about this game. I feel like there's a lot of people take that there's a lot going on where enough in college sports the NCAA passing the I didn't actually pass anything. Kick the can down the road but they said they're gonNA do the the name Image Likeness. Dang others news about the transfer waivers a forest desired. Steve Forbes. People want to talk about that. You know what Bonnie I could give a flip what they want and the words of Roy Williams I could give a flip what they want we are. GonNa talk about. I don't give a flip about the G. League. That's like I say we are going to talk. Exclusively about the two thousand three Kansas Versus Syracuse National Championship game in Bay himes crowning accomplishment. And it's very lengthy career. We were going to dive into it today. But first Woody Durham all right. This is the third installment of the Classics Series here. We've done the two thousand five Arizona Illinois game before we've done the two thousand and two Duke Versus Indiana game. This is the first national championship game. Tape we've ever done. It is the two thousand three. Syracuse Kansas Game I put the ball in your court. Let she picked this one. I have an idea of what you're about to say when I asked you this but why this game I think at this time in sports at least for me in the sports it was all about. You know trying to find teams that we're going to get over the hump. The Boston Red Sox are GONNA win their first world series of they finally going to get over the Bambi. No colonel sort of stuff. That's what's happening in the ether of the world. And then you get these two coaches You know guys that we've seen around the block for quite some time. Jim Boeheim Annan Roy Williams. They both are supposed to be at that level. I think Phil Mickelson at the time was supposed to win. A major in golf at this is my mind when I'm putting into the ether of like everyone's trying to get over the hump. So you've got these coaches. They've got these great teams but they're differently built where you have a young core of freshman talented guys in Jim. Boeheim does the quote that they say in the last dance about a Doug Collins about MJ. Like I just give Carmelo the ball when I get out of the way. That's where we are like the Syracuse team they were seniors got heinrich calcium that whole storyline so its watershed moment in college basketball. It is obviously a national championship game. And it's also You know we love message for the haters. We love getting over the Hump. We love giving the few moments after the fact and for Jim Boeheim. This was that moment. And that's why it means so much. Yeah we're we'RE WE'RE GONNA set the stage here a little bit of a very lengthy setting the stage. I have a feeling because I think You hit the nail on the head. This was this was supposed to be that this was a game going into Roy Williams. Jim Boeheim where depending on which side of the fence he fell on whether you're syracuse person or Kansas prison. You felt like you were the team of destiny. You felt like this was the coronation of your head coach. That that he's been waiting for this moment or his entire career and finally at long last he's going to get that moment. And that's what made it so interesting. And you have the the as you said the freshman on one side the seniors on the other so we're GonNa go through and set the stage here a little bit. We'll talk about the game itself. Which the game. I guess wasn't really that intriguing. Syracuse jumps out of big lead. Mcnamara goes nuts. Kansas comes back in and makes it kind of close in the end but Yeah we'll dive into the game and then we'll get into the aftermath because I think that's what's ultimately looking back. What would what's also super about this game? It's more like the game itself. Clearly enough is like the least interesting part. It's going into the game super interesting coming out of the game and everything that's happened to college basketball to get us to where we are now. Very very interesting and the game was good. You know it was a three point game. There's a block shot at the end. I don't know if people remember that are not we'll talk about that will hand out some awards do like we always do go. Goats and all our many many superlatives. They're very superlatives that we love to do but first let's at the stage so take people back to two thousand three. Remind them of what what this country was like. There was not a pandemic going on people could shake hands and and Sit next to each other live sporting events it was a very different time take explained to the people thousands of dollars like yes. So let's take a macro look at this. They were going to get micro dive into the College Basketball version of two thousand and three. But what's happening in the world in two thousand and three? Well yes it. You said that you said there was no pandemic. There was one. There was a SARS was going on so so wonderful over one there. So that's In fact I was going through this and I was like buying things like the time stamp where we are in the world so Cristiano Renaldo was eighteen years old in two thousand and three. He made his debut for Manchester United or so in my mind. I'm like okay. Wow that seems like forever ago. That's two three another thing that will make you feel like forever go Arnold Schwarzenegger. The Terminator is elected Governor of California. The governor goes in in two thousand and three so of course we remember that. That's a that's a big moment. In time apple launches something called itunes which becomes a major success selling over ten million songs than four months the launch. That's obviously something that everyone's excited about. And this is the first time that we get any sort of a backlash to tigers In the world in two thousand three a White Tiger Attacks Roy Horn of the duo siegfried and Roy. We remember that in two thousand three tiger king that was the original Tiger King and obviously nothing could happen was married to Carol. Baskin is the question on. Everyone's mind a probably probably like Avia may picture where it's like Justin Timberlake siegfried and Roy Carroll Baskin. You know it's all her next up. Jk Rolling Release the fifth book in the Harry Potter Series Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. Oh my God. I'm currently reading that. I'm not even kidding. Well I'm not even kidding you. I'm on page. A. Dole spoiler for me but Harry just got expelled from hogwarts. There's a lot of book left so I assume you know. It would be hilarious that he gets expelled from hogwarts and then the story line is lay just storylines like he stays out of school he. He obviously mechanic don't need school. He's like schools kind of like see like a waste of time. I don't know why Julie Z. Widow come back. This is a good college basketball. Show I swear to God. Let's phony because I'm actually. I'm actually reading the book right now. So that's what I came. Also parts of the Caribbean. Of course the curse of the Black Murrow remember that that came out in two thousand and three and then also one of my favorite things in two thousand three is a show by the name of Chapelle show and they had a segment on that show show yes of course with Paul Mooney and Paul Mooney. You know has his little thing where he's talking about movies and he talks about a movie that came out in two thousand and three and it is called the. Last Samurai and is of course wrong. Tom Cruise can still alarium to this very day of. That's the case. Also bad boys do came out. Lost in translation came out the Matrix reloaded game out. Finding Nemo came out that is two thousand and three pop culture wise. And now let's get into the basketball set the stage wonderfully date. I have my mind. My my brain is said on two thousand three the cutoff jerseys underneath cutoff shirts underneath the jerseys everyone wearing the Nike shocks. Yes headbands were still big back. Anger sleeves a lot of finger sleeping sleeves. Yeah that was the fashion of the time. If you watch the game with us you would keep war candidate especially Greeks cut off. 'cause he was so skinny and having that baggy cut off the like. Hong all the way over his shoulders like it was a shock out or something like that. Yeah anyway so the stage all right. That's the show actually as it turns out no. So what about? What about you individually tate? How were you give you the Peop- I think this is useful for so people? Remember your perspective here as we go on with this podcast. They know when you're like I remember like this. Give the people an idea of where you were when you say I remember it. They know what what what you're talking about. Your I was eleven years old. I was playing travel baseball at the time. I remember I was not playing basketball. The basketball season was over so I was in baseball mode at this point in March but I remember just watching because everyone had told us is North Carolina. Kids that The reckoning was coming Roy Williams on the way so I was watching this game. Basically waiting for the new head coach waiting for the chosen one to come to town and as. I'm watching this. I'm just excited about the fact that hopefully the good guys will win here. He'll lead to make everyone happy and then he can come on so as a as an eleven year old. I'm just excited about a new coach. That's okay all right I was. I was a freshman in high school. I was in the midst of spring. Break my freshman year of high schools with my parents we went down to. I WanNa say like Destin Florida somewhere in the panhandle mugs. That's always went because we're from the Midwest and it was chief is hello there. My parents had we would go to the panhandle of Florida. I vividly remember this is. This is the most bizarre thing ever put. Brains are funny and I remember falling in love with string cheese on this trip on this spring break. My parents went to the grocery snacks. My mom got some string cheese and I don't remember like ever really eating string cheese. I ate a ton of string cheese on this spring break. So in my mind I always connect the two thousand three syracuse team to string cheese. It is very bizarre. Makes no sense but yeah that's that's the connection big. I honestly it anytime. I string cheese I think Jerry McNair honestly the rest of my life so because I so much damn string cheese on that trip so all right enough about that let's be honest jerry back mares eating string cheese and so it was awesome so those are the facts. Let's set the stage for this actual because as we said it is very intriguing going into the game. First of all it's played in New Orleans. It's in the superdome and that is no worthy because The the pivotal Moment Jim. Boeheim CAREER HAPPENED IN ONE THOUSAND. Nine hundred seven key. It's the shot to beat Syracuse not quite the Buzzer but it was effectively at the Buzzer. That game happened in a the superdome and nineteen ninety-six nine years later after that Syracuse makes it to the national championship against an meadowlands. I believe it was in the middle. Ninety six against Kentucky but Kentucky Untouchables Kentucky teammate. John Wall like Syracuse wasn't supposed to be John. Wallace was was playing out of his mind and John Wall. Eventually fouls out. It's like a five point game when Wallace vows out but like searches never really had a chance like that. That one doesn't really weigh on Jim. Boeheim so much at this moment in time you talk to Jim Boeheim about like what? What is like the one moment you wish you could? Redo what what haunts you as a coach etc etc. It just keeps mar hitting the shot and the super dome. And now here we are sixteen years later. Syracuse stepping into the exact same superdome and. Jim boeheim Jim. Boeheim even calls like we see Rony Seikaly and the the crowd at one point. They talk about how behind invited. As many of those nine hundred eighty seven guys back to to be here for this which thankfully Syracuse won it because that would be very triggering horrifying if they once again lost. If Kim War doesn't block Michael Risha Syracuse loses yet again man. That would be very upsetting. I think tape. Yeah well there was like A. There's like a weird Oliver Nego- through the entire game and play it out but there is a weird as you watch it with billy packer as he's talking about the game and talking about what's going on. Obviously Billy packers biggest concern is Carmelo. Anthony's back right. We're GONNA talk about all that but the reason why so concerned is because of Carmelo Anthony's back in his mind was one hundred percent. Syracuse are guaranteed to win this game. They're so Jane better team than this in this turnover pro Roy Williams. Coach team and billy packers mind as you watch the game you kind of feel as if Bay Heim has the comfort of knowing at the end of the day. I have the better three point shooting team. I had the best player on the court and if I have to go small I can't go small I in that and that's the KOPPA's Exuded was very interesting watching this because when I was younger I watched it from the vantage point of like Roy. Williams is supposed to win this game. Just because you you'd like the bias is already inherently there so yeah let's talk about that. Let's talk about the misconceptions going into this. Because I I'll be honest. I thought Kansas was better than they actually were like. This was not a great Kansas team. They were to see but they started the year. I believe they started the middle of my notes here. Yeah they started the your three at three. This preseason number two it's the country they start your three and three they lose to honoring North Carolina. The the the team is going nineteen and sixteen against minority fire. Which is why Roy goes on in the first place. They lose too bad. North Carolina team where the best player was a freshman Rashaad. Mccain's they lose two days later to Florida. Then they lose the to Oregon to drop the three and three at point there twentieth into a people like horrible by stretch immagination but I remember Collison Heinrich bean seniors in my mind. I was like Oh that Kansas team is a juggernaut but as it turns out it was the year before that they were the Juggernaut. When you're going on the team when the front court for Kansas was drew Gooden Nick. Collison and Winston. Those are the three frontcourt players who all at some point in their career won't big twelve player of the year. That's the nasty team and that goes to the final. Four in Otsu ends up losing to Maryland national change of Maryland. Juan Dixon goes absolutely nuts in this game scores. Thirty three Kerr connery and I think like I'm getting ahead of a little bit but I but we're already here let's go. I think this is why this is so compelling to me. Is that hydrogen collison if you go back and look at their run as a class because again okay. So the other backstory like part of the reason. Roy didn't leave North Carolina immediately Would win a bill. Guttridge retired and they went with Matt. Daugherty's because Roy was so committed to this class this Hurricane Rick Nicholas Andrew. Gordon was part of the class as well. He really loved this class. The way he talks about it is like he just love those kids. If you're a cynic maybe you say well. He maybe didn't really love kids. You love the idea that they were. You could tell that they were super talented and they might win a national championship. Either way the truce probably somewhere in the middle but he wanted to see this class through and if you go back and look tate the freshman year for this for this group. They're in eighth seed. I'm talking just their. Ncaa tournament runs here in two thousand there and AC they lose in the second round number one duke By Five Roy. Royan que get into a fight the first staff. Kansas starts this game up thirteen four. And then at the very end of the game dukes up three Connor Kesse clean look at the Buzzer base. There was like under ten seconds. Life Heinrich is a clean book to send the game to overtime. He misses they ended up losing to number one duke. That's how they lose their freshman year sophomore years. Oh one they lose in the sweet sixteen to the one-seat Illinois Frank Williams drops thirty for Illinois Heinrich and Collison. Both foul Heinrich has five turnovers. So then we go to the junior year this is. The juggernaut drew his big twelve player of the year. He actually wins He actually went to one national player of the year award over Jay Williams. Just funny. They've they've run into a Maryland in the final four Heinrich again fouls out with five. Turnovers gets absolutely toward by one Dixon. Yeah so the the the point being here this is a three year run. Were LIKE THEY LOSE? They lose three one seat STATE THEY LOSE TO DO THEY LOSE. Illinois Maryland Heinrich place poorly in all three of those games so going into this final season. You're like this. Is it like the they've they've all been trying to this? Roy Williams has never won a title Hurricane. Rake in a Nicholson have have had these obstacles. Where every year? It's like this could be the year. This could be a breakthrough and finally at long last in their senior year. All that standing between them at a national championship is a team lead by two freshman and a Sophomore Nikki. Maury and that's pretty much all they had to to get over and it just felt like all things were going Kansas. Its way yeah because they were familiar right like in the in the conversation of College Basketball Right. We all drew gooden. And you know it's funny. I remember this year. Co Anthony was sitting on the bench. When he was heard and Rome's Adam sit next to him and the reason he did that was because he said he did that drew gooden and went through good that when he came back he just knew. So much. More ABSORBING. What was going on from the coaching staff and he ended up being a player coach on the floor. So you know. Roy obviously revered that Kansas Team. They obviously had a sense of basketball. Iq That's next level. But what's funny? Is You set that stage right like this team is the senior late in team is gonNA come into this moment in deliver in and then you watch the game and they are herky-jerky that right Nick Kassem the first lap you making the game like this little like stutter. Step floater that he caught it. The three point line almost traveled. I mean everything that they do early in this game. They look like the team that has tiring badly air balled his first shot of this game very badly so bad that billy beggar goes that was like a Derrick Wittenberg pass caught the ball and laid it in and go. Yeah the the to the greater point like this was not a degree Kansas team that I thought because I inflated them with the year before when good was on the good has a gray season as I said was was first team. All American actually won one national player goes goes to the draft. Pick think fourth I want to say in the the OT draft and then Collison Heinrich obviously come back for their senior. They're not great. Outta the gate. They're they're not a great team. They said they dropped the twentieth in the AP poll January. They lose the number one arizona in Allen fieldhouse by seventeen tate. It's ninety one seventy four. They could absolutely run on their own. Jim Allen fieldhouse which Kansas as we know like almost never loses their they fall to thirteen and five and then they lose the Missouri. The big twelve tournament they enter the NCAA tournament one in four versus top ten teams. There are other than just saying Kirk Hinrich in Nickel Centre seniors on this team. I don't think there's really anything point to and say like this was like a great team but for some reason I remember like falling into that trap and when I was watching this I was like man. Kansas team is great and even even when I think back on that game I just remember being like a Juggernaut that that was definitely not the case. What it's also funny when when you think about the source stuff too is like the rumor mills that were going on in Lawrence Kansas in January around that time and people knew in North Carolina. Said I mean we'd heard rumors that Roh Williams is GonNa come to town was gone that Dean Smith was head convinced Roy Williams to leave Lawrence income to Chapel Hill. That was the rumor that was going on. So if you're a Williams and you have seniors that are there. You also have this rumor behind you yet. Your team may not be as lock in as they were the year before they lose eight games of what they did the year before that you may not prepare for some of these games like you had before because as we both know washing Roy Williams sometimes the preparation and the actual like being in the moment of the game could be affected by his emotions than that surround the game and like we him where the Jayhawk which is why he never beats. He never beat North Carolina when he was at Kansas and then when he's at North Carolina he never beat Kansas because he's just always to emotional about the game that it it's just too much. It's just too much too much to other things other notes here. I had to set the stage with this Kansas team And then we'll move onto the syracuse portion of this We have we should point out to Kurt. Heinrich starts his career. Kansas as a point guard is running point for Kansas. The arrival of air miles pushes him over so in the season air. Miles is Rhonda. Point liners off the ball. This is now the second year. The Heinrich is off the ball. That's only interesting to me. I think just because we just had Joel Berry on and they had the same sort. Roy had the same sort of situation with mark stage and Joel Berry and so that was like fresh on my mind then like see the air miles her contrary. Kinda one guys to two point guards but you know what I'm saying there. Yeah and it's also with Heinrich. When he moved to the to. Everyone wanted him to be more of a shooting guard. People wanted him to shoot you here in in is higher. It's gotTa take some threes. GotTa keep on us and then his role on Kansas eventually ends up being just like three point specialist and this will be a bigger discussion later about like the just. The kind of basketball that was played back then were It doesn't seem like that long ago it was back at a time. Where you you did have one guy who was like you be the one person on the team that shoots threes no one else threes and that was hiding that ended up being hinrichs rolled by the end of this By the end of the thing but then the big one we have to talk about his Wayne Simeon Who Midway through season has has the shoulder problem. He's averaging fifteen and eight for Kansas. He was he was great for Kansas as I said he goes on to over five. Un Big twelve player of the year. This was a sophomore year. He he missed it. He dislocated a shoulder originally on January fourth. Well he originally has had shoulder surgery in highschool. I'm so he's got this. Lingering problem then he dislocates. January fourth of Mrs Eleven Games he returns in mid February and basically by the end of February. He dislocates it again. They have the they talked to the doctors. The doctors say you're going to have to have at least two weeks of Rehab before you'll be clear. The family just decided. We're going to do surgery on it and have set out the rest of the year because I didn't want to risk anything. Probably a smart decision for the long term because It was beyond like a physical thing. It started become a mental thing if I went back and read a bunch of these articles and they just said like Roy just kept talking about. How like you could see Wayne and practice? Kinda like favoring certain things and and scared to have contact and all that sort of stuff so Kansas is without Wayne semi the entire. Ncaa tournament run. It doesn't necessarily change a ton of in in terms of like how they play. But it's worth pointing out because I you know the the. This'll be a discussion as we as we dive into the game. Because I think Nick Collison gets completely gassed this game and it becomes obvious by the. Nicholson just totally out of gas. And having a guy that could have been in there you know carrying some of this interior load for. Kansas definitely would have been a difference but how much of a difference we'll discuss later. I think voter Scott later but I also have to point out that it is hilarious as we even as we picked his game. I even said Wayne Simeon's name you know as listed people that are playing in this game just because in your mind you think you have pursue there but obstinate The shoulder injury kept him out. Yes so that is the Kansas side of it as for the Syracuse side of. I think this this story is more. Well founded my brain how I remember it that Syracuse. I vividly remember that. Syracuse was not ranked to start the season I remember that Syracuse lost their first game of the season Memphis which Looking back if you want to draw parallels and make notes and all. That sort of stuff was no early because this was the year after Doin Wagner had played at Memphis yet widener always gets called like the first one in Doug Guy even though he's definitely not guys like Eddie Griffin Zach Randolph. All these other dudes four Yeah there have been plenty guys before. Do Bob mcadoo in the sixties right doin wagner gets gets called the I wanna done so Simai poetic that Carmelo. Anthony is very first game. He loses to the Yes to the original one and done team Syracuse. Starts this season on rain. They are not ranked in any people to until January fourteenth. Which coincidentally I another fun poetry. Whatever you call it up they be Missouri. I believe on January thirteenth then after they beat Missouri they show up in the AP poll for the first time and that is noteworthy because Syracuse ends up beating four different big twelve teams on the road to their title and they also beat Missouri in the regular season. So yeah there were six big twelve teams that made it NCA tournament this year. Syracuse beat five of them on your there were five against the big twelve on the season and the media joke for people that didn't watch her understand what was going on. If you watch this game they keep saying. Throughout the entire time we'll syracuse beat. The big twelve champions. That is the little joke the gymnastics thrown out there. And that's because of course they own the big twelve the big game for me from Syracuse. That year the Ganda Says Okay. This team is a really good team. They blew out Georgia tech and I know a lot of people may hear that in modern context. And say okay. Who Cares Georgia Tech? They get blown out all the time But this particular Georgia Tech Team. I have an affinity for because of what they did the next year but in two thousand and three Chris. Bosh still there. They had the BJ. Elder Jared Jack. All those guys were familiar with that team. Luke censure and anyways they get blown out by Syracuse. I think it was like ninety two to sixty or something like that and it was like a Carmelo. Anthony Hakim work. Who's the software like these guys? There's something else even though Chris Bosh Star this. Qc They have. It's a different level of stars that we have going on here and the reason I say that is because they blew them out and then the next year I saw at the New York. I massive Greg around the beginning of the euro when my family? We saw Georgia tech at footlocker. They're walking around and Ishmael. Muhammad Ali's guys in my brother like this. Is the best team in basketball. Like these guys are unbelievable. Like this is Jordan. Detect like they were the biggest stars around so for this. Syracuse seem to blow that team out. Obviously Chris Bosh was even all mets speaks even more volumes. That says to me like oh the they were clicking. They're like an eleven game winning streak after they lost that first game they had things rolling in and they were doing it on their own and it wasn't it wasn't like it was rolling but it was still like they've into blues. No Rutgers at one point I want to say I haven't read w January twenty nine. Lose the Rutgers January twenty ninth which you talk about. Georgia tech was different back. Then rutgers was different back then to where like records now is much better than ruckers Loser Rutgers was losing to rutgers in your mind. Sounds like yes what? It's unlike last year when you said right right as of that they get taken to. Ot ON MARCH FIRST THEY TAKEN OT by really bad. Georgetown team they lose to uconn in the Big East turney by thirteen. They have five losses on the season. Two of murder Yukon. Yukon's suites in that year in Yukon wasn't necessarily like Juggernaut by any stretch so it was the Syracuse team was about what you'd expect for a team that that's led by freshman in that. There was a little up and down but they still. They still only lost five games on the year but part of that might have been debating scheduling as well. We all know help behind schedules. You know likes the schedule cupcakes. And it's often criticized for that That was definitely the case it for for this season speaking behind by the way this was twenty. Seven th year Syracuse's fifty eight years old. He's been to twelve three sixteen. He said fourteen seasons of twenty five plus wins at this point. So this was a at this point. He's kind of Syracuse legend already This was just the this was the cherry on top. This is the one thing that that had been with Out of his reach the entire time. Man It's crazy to think about that because this is this is how many years seventeen years ago. He was still already. They're twenty seven years. That's what I was gonna say to like just about You talked about. Even though they were hot they weren't really hot. This skepticism that lived in college basketball four team like that like with Jim. Behind there was we. Were still talking about the zone. We were talking about the fact that can you win the big game? Can you win and astrium ship runnings? Oh we don't know that yet. Can You? Also that with a one and done type talent? Can we actually rely on freshman guys to come in and be most outstanding player in the last time? They said the last time that that had happened was like Louisville in nineteen eighty six saint player with freshmen and perv Ellis or whoever was gonNA pay himself against Jay Bilas Jay Bilas Do Teen. Yeah yeah there you go perfect so that was like all that is skepticism college basketball at this time. It's like we've never seen this is not going to happen. I don't know about this Carmelo guy like you know. Is He really that good? Yada Yada Yada and slowly over time and I saw Jerry. Back Moore had a quote about practice One of the first days in practice I knew were going to be so good because they were looking at me like they were shocked by how good I was you know. Let's provide that context as well so the year before this game We already where he said. Kansas was amazing. Withdrew good team at all that. Syracuse was not shared. Use In in WanNa to go twenty three and thirteen they're nine and seven of the Big East they finish fourth place in the NFC. Which I think might be the satisfaction college basketball fourth place in the NFC was actually a third-place gay and they lost the third place game of the NFC and then from that team Preston Shumpert graduates use a twenty one point six point one rebound guy. He's the six all time leading scorer in Syracuse basketball history. Eve graduates the Sean Williams. He was the second leading. Scorer on the Syracuse team gets kicked off the team so I actually found an article by the way so Sean Williams team at transfer Siona and I remember that this happened but I was trying to figure out like why he transferred in like the circumstances little. You'll love this. This is like some great journalism mixed with some dirty laundry here. I find this article from four of written written in the daily Orange Juice stood newspaper. I think it's the newspaper. Here's how the article starts buckle for this outside the locked bathroom door. Eight or nine men stirred angrily their bladders needed a break and whoever stood behind the door wasn't giving it to them five minutes. They've been waiting. What was up with that girls? Wait guys just use the bathroom? As a pitstop. Between Miller lights the crowded basement corridor caught the eye of Conrad's employees within a minute to bouncers thump thump on the door demanding. Whoever was in there to get the hell out the shell? Twin ignored inside to Sean Williams heard the pounding. He's no idiot. He knew people were waiting. Sue bed they'd wait a little longer. He'd leave them. He'd leave when he finished receiving oral sex. That's how the articles darts I did. It goes on to be like it tells the story about the shod. Roy Getting kicked out of a bar and like what the hell. Yeah where takes journalists? This is before the Internet blogs this is like full-on this guy was like this. Because I'm looking like what was the Sean Wave Started? Whatever I find this and I was like Whoa. That's beyond a story that's interesting feature anyway to the larger point Those two guys. The team was not that great to begin. Those guys are removed from the team. And then now you're replacing them with Carmelo Anthony. Who obviously is is a great player was depending on what recruiting service? You looked at eight. He was he was in the top three. No matter who you're looking at the other guys were Amari. Stoudamire and Lenny Cooke Lynch who both Amari obviously went to the NBA. Lenny Cooke tried a WHO? Who made the documentary about him? Was a showtime. Have they showtime? Yeh Go watch that if you wanted to understand the story so basically my point is Carmelo. Anthony was like the top recruit in college basketball. And then you add a but even still. He's a freshman like you said. There's a lot of uncertainty around that. Can you build it because this was not? This was not a situation of a Kentucky where it's like a well oiled machine of like we sent those guys pack and we figured it out bringing the next crab. Whatever mum they'd gone to the United States and finished in Fourth Place Bring Carmelo. Anthony they bring in Gerry McNamara. Who is a great recruiters? Well and then a billy. Lynn who he was a redshirt freshman because his freshman year he. He was suspended as freshman year for sexual harassment. Type stuff and then he's he's suspended the first twelve games. I WANNA say of this season because He played in an unsanctioned league over the summer. So those were like the three freshmen grades. Teamwork's a sophomore. I think Craig forth. Who wasn't really that big of a deal? But was there started. I think he was. We gotta live. I can't wait to talk about creek. Fourth very very very young team is the is the larger point here today and it was not and I think the the the this is my long winded way of saying of putting into context. This was not like your Dukes or your Kentucky's your one and done teams of today where they had sorta figured out the science of how to coach guys how to plug is in bring him in and whatever. This was like. Jim Boeheim had a really bad team that finished fourth place in an idea. He lost his top two scores and he now had to replace them with Jerry McNamara Carmelo Anthony Basic. And fortunately for him. Those guys actually our top tube scores so when you bring into the building they can be top scorers in. It's not a problem so it did work out and it's funny because like they are the perfect you guys do put in to be those score. Rolls Really. And they don't have anyone that they're competing with for those shots. Carmelo Anthony does need to compete with anyone for shots land that early so syracuse. Here's how they get here they're NCAA tournament run. They beat Manhattan by eleven. In the first round there are three seed Syracuse ends up getting three C. B. Manhattan in the first round second round. They start their big twelve run. They beat number six sixty two Oklahoma state of fun. Fact about this game doug outlive did not even score in that game. Dugout also wasn't on. The team had graduated by them. But does it just pointing? We don't need that technicality. Point is Doug Alley did not score on the game. Then they beat Auburn by one in this re- sixteen Oklahoma Elite a number one seat Oklahoma then beat number one seed Texas in the final four. In part of the part of the reason. I wanted to bring all this up. The Oklahoma Texas then beating Kansas and the title Game Ron Syracuse. Not only they they beat all these big dwellings they knocked. They ended the careers of three. All American guards Hollis price they ended the career Tj Four one national player of the year with with David Wessel. They ended his career and then they incur trainers career With a loss which is a fun. Little caveat as well that they went through this gauntlet of like great guards. It's very old big east too. So this is this is the end of the year. So maybe that's another reason why it's watershed moment. This is I'm stamping it. Down had two other notes on behalf Roy a one. They showed this graphic during the game. Seventy-one tournament wins between them and seven final fours between When when they met up here and then the other note I had is at this point in time behind Roy had met in the NCAA tournament twice in ninety six. Syracuse beat the two seed Kansas by three Which was the which is the sixteen. Minute OF LOSING KENTUCKY IS. We talked about earlier. That was the the Paul Pierce of France. Jacques von Janice team yet on behind gets the better of Roy that one five years later in a one in the second round four vs five matchup. Kansas beats the absolute living piss out of Syracuse. They win by almost thirty and Heinrich and collison wrong too. But the Syracuse Freshman. Obviously weren't so. That was that was two years before they had met in the second round in Kansas. Beat the hell out of them. So they're sadness anything else we need to. We need to touch on to to set the stage. I think the last thing that we had to say is that the New Orleans aspect of this in the fact that it was in the superdome and the fact that I think Adam had just hit the kick for the Patriots when it's reasonable Like fourteen months before this like the mystique of New Orleans in general in college basketball in Nineteen eighty-two Jordan. Hit the shot there. That's all the mini-stories Nineteen eighty-three was there. We have are those are the those are the three the three title games to this point. Where Carolina over Georgetown with the Jordan shot the Indian over Syracuse with the Keith Marsha and then Carolina over Michigan with the weather time those are the three title Games. Up to this point that had happened in the superdome. It's funny because at the end. Billy Packer He has like this little quoted. He's like basically like is this. Not what you WANNA do or like. This is what it is like. This is New Orleans like this is what we do. And it's like Jim Boeheim is going into hug. Roy Williams the Tel -gratulations. Roy Tell Him. Congratulations to that point. But YET NEW ORLEANS THE ASPECT OF THAT. I just want to point out. It's a beautiful scene in a beautiful setting in the yellow. Yeah Oh the other thing. We've got to mention. Oh Matt resigned on Wednesday leading into this game is on Monday. The final four is on the Saturday. The Wednesday heading into the final four Matt Doherty resigned from North Carolina and it makes sense because I remember watching this game at it was like you get to watch a job interview. And this is what we're gonNA play like from now on we're going to have a white guard. Kirk hinrich coming to me. It's like this is who we are. This is what North Carolina Basketball. Look like. So so that is that is looming over the era. The mess already era. What time are let's get in the game here first of all Jim? Nance billy packer on the call is you said love love here and Billy Pag Billy. Packer was absolutely hated as Mounir. By the time young it up but it is. It is nice to go back and watch these games and hear him on the call and just remind yourself of his existence. Honestly I was GonNa say I think a lot of people there. There's a show that they do with. Acc network now in its With billy packer son with woody. Durham son in. Its way you know the two of them are talking to each other and I just listened to it sometimes and I don't even listen to what they're actually saying. I'd just like to listen to the cadence because it puts me in a basketball like mine. Stay for whatever reason so you hear billy packer people. That don't know billy packer. Stick is Dick. Basically you tell every coach while they're so stupid stupid do basically you'll go after anybody and everybody and in rooms have a very I would say love hate relationship at some level. I don't know how much love is there. Billy Packer is not afraid to talk about Roy. Williams turnovers talk about sloppy. Play not talk about that. Timeouts not talking about bad decisions so going into the game having billy packer as a Carolina. There's a point at the end of the first half. I think we'RE KANSAS FOUL. To give and billy packers like Kansas as a founding here they should go for the steel and then too they should play aggressive defense and try to steal because if they fouls knocking them and then like three seconds go by like our Kansas is doing they should still here and then like five seconds go by Kansas slowly falling into the sea. Like what are they doing like losing? The game is going to be won or lost on this decision foul gadgets. It was in it. I think Syracuse is up scoring Carmelo three or something happens then you could see not literally but like in my brain. I could see him just crossing his arms to stop football like should have filed the NFL. I told her this is added. The coach coach and everybody knows that. That's another bill is always. Everybody knows that. Never forget billy packer. One tired of psychic to track down the knife used in the OJ Simpson case. And I'm not even kidding. You can look this up folks yet. He's he hired a CY. He wanted to wanted to offer his services to figure out who killed Nicole Brown Simpson so hired psychics to try to find the the knife. This is a real thing to happen. He also used to play golf courses backwards which is to say you would like tee off on. Greens and try to hit his ball to the tee box. So that that's that's the man we had our lead analysts to college basketball. Like whenever you think of the Word Maverick you know what I mean like someone. That is a maverick and they behave like a beverage. It's billy packer and it's not a good thing. You know what I mean. It's just like he's GonNa do exactly what he wants to do and say what he wants to say. That's beautiful and then we opened this game. We get we gotTA keep working. Nicholson to go for the tip and billy packers. I comment that he says and both those guys tried to steal the tip really reprimands you know what I mean of all right so general big big picture vibes this game We already touched on. It makes it an part of the reason we did. The whole backstory of the two teams is. Because what is very unusual is that the freshman team did not play like freshmen. These senior team did and that was the theme early and often in this game. Which is that like Gerry? Mcnamara the stones on this guy But in Carmelo to both of them just so poised so call so confident at all times using swagger whereas the Kansas team looked like they were super tight. Heinrich airballs the very first that we already talked about that. Collison as you said. His first shot is like kind of jumping in fading. Throw it up. Kansas did not look like polished. In any stretch of the by any stretch of the imagination whereas Syracuse look supremely confident so confident in fact the first shall we see Jim? Behind has less than a minute of the game. And he's got his patented. Movers got his hand on his chin. Yeah he's got like four fingers up his nose kind of like doing that thing. He just looks like He. He's Chile like he's he's playing colgate in a November game you know. That's that's a carrier down that kind of seems to be his attitude because as you said he probably knew the secret. Which is that Kansas has shooters other than Heinrich and Heinrich is going to be tight. Because he's nervous because this is his last game but Kansas and he has to win it or else. What is his career even mean Kansas and he's got a team full freshmen with nothing to lose and Jerry. Mcnamara's what is hell? So he was like screw it. I'M GONNA pick my nose. Yeah I'M GONNA pick my nose and I'm going to sit here and I'm GonNa win this basketball game and it's funny because we opened the game up and the first thing that we hear for billy packer is pace is critical right. This this game is going to be about pace in the first matchup. That'd be point out his Langford verse. Carmelo Anthony which is a bit about five inch difference in Length Garden Anthony and Hermel Anthony's on the block earlier in this game. And that's the whole thing what's going to happen. Here are what. What IS ZONED? GonNa do to this. Kansas offense Kirk Hinrich. What's going to happen with Kirk? Is You can go to shoot the ball tonight. He's had ups and downs. Remember the Duke Game. One for nine. All the stuff is being discussed to begin early in the game and like the first Basset Craig forth. You know who is if people don't know what a five mad looks like. Look up pregnant because that's five. He's wearing number fifty one. He's got cement blocks for feet and and he's not going to block a shot like my favorite thing about creek for one point in the game. They're like Nichols is not afraid to say the Basque because he knows Craig forth isn't a shop locker and absolutely correct cookie. Mort that guide shop Lager Creek for shock blogger. So if you pay your first possession a game on offense is Craig. Fourteen to easy bucket. The open this up. I'd feel pretty confident to like I. I'd start putting my fingers in my nose and say we got a good shot here. Do you think Craig for duty. Carmelo Anthony Nose Creek. This if he's asking Craig fourth bumps into Carmelo Anthony on the street and he's like Yo Mellow in. Do you think are Craig. Yeah what's up? Dude was watching this game like I was watching it like they had that was that was the fifth guy. It was Craig forth because at the end of the game they go small. We'll talk about that later but like the way that Craig forth scores the first basket that is that it cites confidence Jim. Yeah and really confidence in the entire team 'cause McNamara I remember McNamara hitting six threes in this game in the first half he he he starts the Trans guys. Getting hot. In the first half national title Gains Spike. Albrecht the Phil Booth the. Who else did that handcock Hancock? Yes the idea of just going absolutely nuts but what I didn't remember about McNamara's run in the first half was that one. He was just like unconscious from the start. He was just pulling from everywhere and was wet but but sued that it was like. I said it was from the start. I think that was the part number one like I. I remember meeting the threes but I always thought it was like through the flow of the offense and like they were double team in Carmelo so he kicked it off. Jerry who was wide open definitely not the case in and also the Jerry was sort of like easing into it. Mcnamara was gone in from the star soothes. You catch the ball. He's like I'm hole in it. He's taken why some wild wild wild shots hitting them and it's setting the tone because on the other end Kansas packers just hammer that home over and over like Kansas hit threes to stretch this zone out to give him space to to It's no secret you play basketball. You KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BASKETBALL. At some point you're gonNA have to outside shots against the zone and that falls on. Heinrich 'cause Kansas doesn't really have any shooters other than Heinrich and Heinrich airballs. The first one misses first five shots is very very cold out of the gate and that is kind of the theme of the entire first-half Syracuse will not nist. Kansas will not make shots. The LANKFORD becomes the focal point of the game for me. Because as you said he's Guardian Carmelo given up a ton of size to Carmelo eventually gets fouled trouble fouls out of this game which becomes a huge kind of a nail in the coffin for Kansas. From Langford goes out on the flipside on offense late for becomes the one guy who could kinda mix it up because as you're watching Kansas run offense collison killing collison balls out in this game. Is Joanna. Download Jeff Graves Kansas big man? Who Would Wayne Sydney goes out? Graves becomes the new starter Starting Center he's balling out to like He. He had sixteen sixteen. I think in this game but you have like like those two guys are to stay inside. Highnesses floating around outside trying to get his threes off the air miles really quick and can penetrate everything like he's too small to kind of do anything in zone so kind of falls on length for to be the guy that's like the slasher To you know get bodies moving with zone and all that stuff And he becomes like a focal point of the offense for for Kansas. In the fact that he's the one guy who can go inside and outside both for Kansas and he's also guarding Carmelo. Anthony on the other end he becomes like the Guy I own it on and ultimately fails out misgivings I said. Because he's in. He's in foul trouble as it turns out guarding. Carmelo. Anthony when you're giving them five inches is Is Not an easy task. Yeah it's not an easy task and it's also not easy because one of my favorite Early on pivotal plays in. This game is an entry pass Carmelo. Anthony it's funny because you and I we joked about it sometimes the guards the ABA which is the amateur basketball analysts. We that happens that we know it's a violation and we wanted to be called but we understand you know things happen. You always make all the calls right so early on in this game. Carmelo Anthony. Get an entry pass. And does the classic thing where he catches the ball drops down dribble in any picks it up and then he wears on triple threat and then he starts dribbling any merely. Does that Roy Williams stands up and Roy Williams is doing the classic coach like up and down like planet. But you know just playing the bongos. Like calling the double dribble. Billy Packer obviously saw for Roy Williamson good job by Roy Williams being able to spot that they're obviously a double triple Carmelo Anthony. They're letting him get away with one there and Carmelo Anthony like you know whatever pulls up his jumper. It's ten five from that point but it was funny for me 'cause we about watershed moments in this. Like what this game would mean in terms of college basketball. It's like that little playroom at their little issue. Best TURMOIL RAGES LESS THE BALL. Off like yeah. We see that a million times in college basketball now they would never call it a double dribble but in two thousand one they probably would have and if it wasn't Carmelo Anthony and it was. You know maybe maybe on the other side. Let's say Langford. Has that happened? Maybe they do call. It was like a funny. It was the first time I've ever in in college basketball game. Remember scenes like that where it's like. Oh He's got his own officiating going on car. Carmelo is GONNA officiating dude. Belk college basketball used to be the exact opposite of superstar treatment. We're like Reginald get off on things on superstars purposely. They look up through the superstars. Word say I'm not giving them any calls. I'm calling any instance of them dragging their foot or maybe double triple in. I'm calling them. They love that they absolutely love that. So yeah you're right. This was the star whether it's sure not in our braids. The safest player pivot where it was just like oh he can get away with Roy. Williams was beside himself. I think that was so shocked. Me On the rewards because that would never happen today if we saw Marvin Bagley gets an entry. Pass the catches at drops in those. Did he start squaring up and starts going? No one cares Zion wherever it may be but Roy Williams was so adamant because at the time it was so fundamentally based at basketball and you. That's how you get Ito. That's a turnover in Kansas or the ball all over the place anyway. They're turnovers going. They need something to help them on the other side of that. So that was my willer mobile. Or it's like okay. Carmella has a different gameboy off then. And I'M GONNA pause here a point Syracuse fans. Are we saying that the rest Kansas? It's not working out on an so. Don't take this wrong way. But later in the first half Air Miles Syracuse is doing a great job. This whole I am getting back on. Defense as we know Roy run Kansas. It's a ton of their points in fast breaks air miles as fast as hell He. He's running the brakes in lamps. That's not happening in this game Syracuse. Doing a good job in back later in the first half miles goes out on a fast break. goes up for layup. Mcnamara takes really sloppy jars and gets called GETS. The call gets the charge. Call the very next possession McNamara hits his six three of the first half and that sequence to your point is like in in the context. It's two thousand three. You're looking at that. You're like a freshman. Just got that call like an odd. Yes that's wild that they would give a freshman that go but then again it is a charge call and we know of college basketball Risks Love Shark all but It was it was a really really really bad call and I'm not saying it's swung the game. It was a pivotal moment. The first half and I think it was a it was a watershed moment in in this game. Because you're like Oh if Syracuse circus already has the best player on the floor if they're going to start getting these calls of McNamara's GonNa hit six threes in the first half all my here. She's going to run away with this thing. And that's where ahead by half-time that's kind of where this thing was going. We just funny because if you flip that the other way around right if you just say like in college basketball terms I do play the fiber when Carolina play the five and it's like a younger team playing the veteran team. That's what the veteran team is doing. They're taking the charge. And then there guys Donna Williams is hitting his six three and the first avenue. It's Kinda like we'll when these senior leading guys are getting these calls and it's all coming up. How can you beat them? It doesn't matter how much talent you have on the other side. How can you beat them? But it's another thing and it's freshman guys with that town that are making these plays that. Are I think that's what we are this? We've almost a role reversal and who was playing. It was a freshman pilot. Senior senior plan like freshman her kind. Rick obviously was in his head. We bench the Duke Game a little bit. But he's been so ebbs and flows up and down in this tournament anyway that when he starts out over five. I. It's US Air Ball and the next three that he'd take smack. Mary hit three. He gets a wide open. Look for three shoots long. It's like a little adrenaline long. And then it hits Langford is such a bad brigade. Hits INFERENCE LAGGING GOES OUT OF BOUNDS. So as busy turnover and you just see it in his face it's like this is like a washed. Dover. It's having again. You know what I mean. Then everyone had had sort of been in on it. You know like what's going on with Heinrich is he gonNA show up is going to be twenty eight hundred. You're going to be the duke. We don't know right and when you start out slow and then you had the freshman point guard who's not afraid of anybody who's a bulldog and he's pulling up for about half court it's crazy threes. You know what I mean. It's like it was like for B. Which is like the senior is getting choked by the freshman. This is this is weird is not good. This is not how this is supposed to work what what is happening here. This is college basketball and then on top of that. It's not even the best freshman on the court. Who is who is. He's so good he's just so so smooth at all times and I I will say that like looking back on it. What tends to happen with people as they exalt these guys like the tournament runs. You remember. This is more of like an NBA. Fan thing where they look back on the guys who they remember college and pretend like they were like other worldly in college and you could always see all that stuff but with Carmelo. My fear was going back and watching it would be. That Carmelo wasn't as good. As we remember we remember him remember Syracuse winning alike. Carmelo was actually like Cata sloppy at times and he didn't quite have the jump smooth jumper yet or like no he was he was he was just as good as we all remember he was. He was that good. He had twenty ten seven in this game. He was just so steady under control at all times and he looked like a professional out there against a bunch of amateurs honestly. It's one in one hundred percent was that and it also had the back as you ready was not a hundred percent so as I watched this game I didn't realize how much of that was also playing into it. Where billy packer was like. They they got up by eighteen in this game. Yeah people that don't like Syracuse gets up by a lot and it's going to get by eighteen points and you're kind of like you know they're cutting to the Kansas bench and they're cutting to the crowd and they're kind of just set the stage. Ucb behinds wife. And it's Kinda like this whole moment is all coming together. This culmination of everything. But then you forget about the fact that like Carmelo Anthony is being coordinated at some level on. This guy is coming to college basketball. He's done something so far from what we expect. Some of that is it's mind blowing itself level to see zone Jimmy behind Syracuse orange with this team coming off. Nit Foreclose is now a national championship like all that is happening within the context of the game in Carmelo Anthony is also dealing with back pain and he's not one hundred percent so everything that he's doing that's amazing. You're like what happens. What he's one hundred percent so it was like another level it is a basic but he's got somewhere else to go. Yeah at one point. The first magma's resides out of bounds. It's his hands on meteoroid. I don't remember did. He hit his shot after that. But Yeah I think you might have one more. I think you might hit the might take an air miles charged. But then obviously he doesn't score the at all in the second half Syracuse jumps out to the eighteen point. Lead it's forty seven twenty nine a Kinda. Let Their foot off the gas. It's not like they think they've already but I mean when you're up by eighteen in your making everything and Kirk Hinrich airball in threes. And at a certain point you're GONNA get a little comfortable. Kansas chips back into the go into halftime is fifty three to forty to syracuse is on fifty three points on a senior Laden. Kansas Plays Fast Kansas Roy As we all know likes to get up and down there are a lot of possessions. Anytime you're playing in. Roy has gained fifty three points in the first half of a national title game when when you have freshmen. Leading the way is pretty staggering. Looking back on it but serious was was playing out of their minds and their up. Eleven at Halftime We come out in the second half. Kansas comes out gun blazing. They finally get the fast break on they. They opened the half on a tend to run but then Langford picks up at one point during the run for picks up his fourth foul early and then and then Michael Lee has to come in for Michael Lebron's of being famous for having a shop like my work late. I has taken out but they on that sensory run to cut the lead fifty five to fifty two. And you think like maybe there's going to be a game here. Maybe but then as I said. Langford kind of gets put on the bench with foul trouble in Kansas. Never really quite figured it out yet. It's one of those it throughout the entire second I honestly throughout the entire game. It feels like the macnamara factor. Obviously it's like a head start in there. Neighborhood never able to defeat with underneath them at some level rate with his candidacy and then when they do have the little slashing Gono with Langford and everybody gets musical buck as their get out in transition I it seems like a lot is That they're going to make the hamper jump over the Hump or whatever. It's going to be in this game. They kind of get Stagnant or Kansas calls timeout. Roy Williams is like trying to run. It just never came to fruition in. I don't know yeah yeah. I don't know how to explain like what I'm saying about Roy Williams against him but it never felt like they were. They were Severity level and it also it also felt like they were under pressure like like Utah. Kansas bench was a wreck. The entire felt stressful. And when they they cut over there Roy Williams like come on guys like calm down. Just play your game. And those are the early turnovers and the whole time. They were playing fat but they will replay and look good for fast. It was a rushed and and it just felt that way the whole time we Kansas. Even the second half as they were bigger the RUB. The tone of the game got dictated early in as we said. Kansas had to hit shots to affect his own heinrich had to basically be the one to do it to to stretch out zone to make Syracuse. Think a little bit. Kansas ended up scorn fine against the zone. But it was never really like a fluid thing as you said like Kansas offense if you go back and watch the game like no pointer men this Kansas Offenses Hamad. If found ways to score points a lot a lot of it was just junk honestly length slashing collison banging on the low block. Great Little Louder. Just yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah. It was ever really cohesive offense and on the flip side I feel like McNamara even though he didn't hit a shot in the second half by hitting six threes. You're setting the tone. You and I have played callous basketball games. That are lines. You know when guys start out hot especially like it continues now like open guys start out. They don't have to hit a shot the rest of the game because in your brain regarding a guy you got it a guy that's been hot before Just you're you're very very paranoid about it if you sit fourth row and then it's been thirty minutes since he's hit a single shot you're still. You're still biting on every pump fake. You're still like I can't let this guy get this and I feel like that was the case of McNamara's like you set the tone that I'm not missing tonight now. Kansas has to worry about him. Maybe they're not doubling Carmelo as much because their shit their pants about Gerry McNamara. Jots yeah and I think like the tone is already set and that became the tone for the rest of the game and it wasn't until Kansas started running in fast break a little bit. Kinda got a golden but then he just goes on the big run behind calls timeout. A second-half kind of settles everything. Down Syracuse. Just what's behind yelled at? His guys was basically like all we have to do is get back on defense or going to be fine. It was never really like even when Kansas started to come back toward the end and they had the shot. Obviously just over time at work blocks. I never really thought Kansas was gonNA be a threat. Nece as I'm watching it at no point. Was I lake man? This guy's got interested in for a second. I think that's what I was trying to say when I couldn't even get words together because I can't really explain how discombobulated Kansas was in this game in the sense that like when I watched it live. I thought that they had a real shot the win and I honestly you know if you had told me beforehand that last shot at the end of the game I would have told you purchased shot at. He should have made. It should have been Mario's miracle and Yada Yada Yada then as I watched this game. I'm like I cannot believe this year in Kansas. Stay in this game. I can't believe I mean we haven't even gotten to the real big story. Which is the free throws. I mean the the free rose Kansas was four for seventeen for the free. Throw line in the second half Ten thirty on the game. Twelve percent cosimo three for ten. Yeah like that is. I mean that's agreed. And it's so funny too because as Syracuse late in the game is going to the free throw line. They're just as bad. You know what I mean. They're not relying on themselves to make free throws and you could see Jim. Boeheim is just as concerned and at one point. He took back out of the game late because he was just like I. I suspect we're GONNA miss free. Throws we just need guys with lean to the car three point nine Jerry? You're the only could make him. But you gotta get out of the game billy packers pulling his hair out about every time Gerry McNamara. Path the ball in the last five minutes of the game basically. He's like she's the best free. What is he by the? Yeah the the free throw shooter was horrible. I think I think in the case of Collison who who ended up going three for ten. I think it was just fatigue. I think collison of fallen out of this game three in the free throw line and if you if you watch towards the end of the game I mean the guy is obviously gas. He's given all twenty one sixteen. I WANNA say nineteen call. What was Carlson's line in the same? Nineteen Nineteen points twenty one rebounds. I had a backward. You had twenty one rebounds nineteen points. He was basically as I was rewatching. It felt like a Greg Oden versus Florida. Where it's just like one man. Is this looking around like? Is Anybody going to help me? And he did have held like Jeff Graves played really while length slashing but like Howson was an absolute beasts in a losing effort and fouled out. Couldn't hit free throws but I think if if you want to be I mean I'm GonNa cut some slack here like if you're is exhausted as he is you go to the free throw line and you have to shoot a free throw. He's he's probably catching his breath. More than trying to make the free throw shots so but yes syracuse state goes eleven for eighteen from the three point line in the game. They started seven for nine from the three point line. Kansas was four for twenty in the entire gay. Carmelo hit three threes himself. He was three four five. You almost said as many threes is the entire Kansas team. So like I mean if if you want to boil it down to to really one bullet-point cans did not make shots shots if you WANNA extrapolate that all you have to think about this. This is Jim. Bejon was smart enough to say this all right. I'M GONNA pack in my zone so tight that I'm GonNa make this guy that struggling with his shot in his confidence I'm GonNa make him hit shots early to get that confidence and in fact and if he does that we're gonNA play off even more and the fact that the first shot that Kirk Hinrich got in. This game was a wide open. Look in its air bom from three point line. That's why Jim. Behind was so sick. He's he's like he's stuck another. Here's like Oh really. I'm in deep and there could be a fun night I I Love Neuro the point. You're trying to make and you're trying to find the words describe because it's hard to. It's hard to say. Without sounding stupid we all know the Syracuse won this game. Because we're watching it. All these years later we know that Syracuse won. But I think the point you're as you're watching it at no point. Did you think Kansas was going to win? Yes in that like if you wiped your memory and we went back and rewatch it for the first time even as Kansas starting to come back they're not gonNA make enough shots they're going to mistreat. Those are gonNA threes. They can't sustain this even as they're cutting it close and and I'm with you. I remember this game as being like I first of all I don't remember Syracuse up eighteen. That's not how I remember that I remembered Syracuse the most of the game and I remember cans make close at the end. I remember like Oh my God. Kansas might actually win. This is GonNa be great finish Watching it it opened my eyes to how how much syracuse is completely dominated. And I think that is that is a good tool to swallow as a guy who Like if I'm a Kansas Fan. I am not as upset about this game as I think I would have been. I get I don't know how to how to phrase it. I don't really feel like this is a case for the better team lost. This is my point eight if I'm against his fan I I don't get upset. It'd be like I can't believe we lost to that Syracuse Z. Because Syracuse was the better team and juice deserved the win and they proved it over the course of the forty minutes. And if you're a Kansas fan you said to yourself I mean I it if only Maryland could've won in two thousand one and then you could. Do you know what I mean. It was just like you just play a team. That was better on that day and Maryland choking against Duke in the West exactly like and maybe this would have been a problem. Yeah that's what it is. I for the sake of argument though for people the Kansas fans that will said they had a real chance to win this game. Do you just want to run through the last minute of the game? Because yeah we showed. Yeah let's do it. We'll give it we'll give I have it all mapped out here. So here we go. We've got the last play by play pop up on the screen and we got a game trends that we get to ties to lead changes in the biggest lead. Of course we said is eighteen by Syracuse Collison fouls mellow in the background. About fifty seconds ago it's eighty to seventy seven syracuse at this point and you know Kraus's kind of getting into it. Everyone's like fill in the moment you know. We're getting the billy packer set the stage. And then of course he talks about Carmelo Anthony and what they find is as interesting stat which I found the last minute Free throw shooting the last minute for Commercial Carmelo Anthony. For the season he was eight for. Fourteen is the stanton. Billy packer likes to pull out like these. The worst thing you could ever hear going the free throw line and a clutch moment like this anyways. Carmelo Anthony Poor twenty-three-year-old that billy packer made dig. Oh Yes yes after. He did the O. J. Thing at the same time I'm back for more staff look look up so mellow misses the front of the one on one. Because he gets jinxed by billy packer and that's great then only other end right. Kansas still down by three miles wide open wide open for three and he goes in and out graves goes up could have been a gold tin but the bomb. Pops backout graves gets fouled. He goes to the line. He goes one for two. Which is I mean. A saving grace at this point. If you watch jeff grades you two free thrown. It's it's something else anyway. Mellow the bad back stuff still going on. We're hearing about anthony slow to get a basically imbalanced. The ball graves falls down on him. He like goes down gets back up. Whatever work ends up going to the free throw line At the end of this after occur kind Miss Heinrich deep three with thirteen seconds left. It goes all the way in all the way out this kind of like the three phases of the jump Shafiqa Heinrich. It's like the first one was an air ball egregious the second one was in adrenaline deep brick and then the last one he finally had you know at least got some sort of similar shackle results comfortably takes it in stride shoot. Shag goes all the way in and out of course and that was pretty much their last real moment work. Mrs. Both free throws is Dover. Three Point Game Heinrich has the ball the top. There you make extra pass the Michael Lee and I did not remember this Mike Lee at thirteen points against Marquette. An was the best three point percents shooter on the team for Kansas. Yeah though it was a good pass from Heiner in my mind always thought it was a bad pass. Of course it was a group. I think I think the the lazy take the lazy. Whatever would just be like Kirk Hinrich euless senior all American guard. You have to shoot that it would. It was basically the Steph curry play against Kansas steadily. Hold like you could have technically had a semi clean. Look from like thirty eight feet. But he's like so like you're not wrong to say that he could have shot it and you're not wrong that he's the best player on the team in the best shoot like you know whatever but that's like a super old school extremely of thinking which is this guy. If you're the best you have to take the shot. Definitely the right basketball play definitely a good play for Kansas to have a Michael that wide open in the corner. He just took forever to shoot the ball. He should've shot fake first of all like teamwork was one hundred percents. Sell it out on that. It's easy it's twenty hindsight. Twenty twenty shopping. I'm sure if he would've known kielmortgage going to block it with his armpit. You probably would have shot sake but it was just a very very slow release like even your watch it over and over and over like Warrick doesn't just get a piece of it. I mean. Were like Tomahawks donor. Must be of Zaire Block Virginia close. Everyone's freaking out about like Hakim. Basically does that exact same thing but it was like. Actually you're insane athleticism by to take anything away from McCain Maury but like this was more to me like Michalis took a slow release. Yup for sure the next day so the shot gets blocked out of bounds. And then we have the. Are we going to add more time at the clock? Billy Packer is demanding. It has to be at least one point one second visit gymnasts saying. I don't know we'll see what happens. They get the time off the clock. Her camera gets the ball he shot. It's it's long. It's an airball. Jim Behind goes to shake the hand of Roy Williams. And then we get the billy packer line of the night. He says. This has New Orleans given US final fours or not. They have to be or what or not. He was talking to a psychic again. There it is. That's your last minute of the or not. I caught that soon. I'm so that was his big script. That was the moment. The gymnasts decided I'm going to start scripted lines and saying like you're out billy schwer beggar would never had the last line again my word. Is there anything else about the game or should we get into? Sperling is here. I should get superlatives because that's going to have this back into the game. So let's do it. Let's start with the The so just to recap the ones we do with these things. We do the go which is capital letters. Greatest of All Time. Nonsense lower case. Go which is the scapegoat. Duluth disappoint this. This is what we grew up with like nine times out of ten when you would go to someone you'd like. Who was the goat like who? Who's the reason he lost a game that it'd be like Elvis parents lost the game? He's the goat and now it change so we always thought that was hilarious for you and is so the goal is it became very confusing and right around the time is basically. Kobe was like twenty ten to twenty eleven somewhere in that range when people started using and what goes into the art. It was perfect for Kobe because a lot of people hated Kobe. And a lot of people obviously Gobi. And you'd have people calling Kobe. Go in certain games. And you're like. Is that a compliment not a compliment. I'm confused and you've been both of the Utah Jasser. Yeah it's like he is the goat. Yeah there's go only true go because he's the only guy that could go vote. He's above all right so we have the upper case. Go the lower case. Go we do thing? At the moment we knew the game was over again. We're pretending we're watching this for the first time. When was the moment you're like yeah? They're definitely Kansas is definitely not coming back Syracuse. Has This in the bag? We're GONNA do some. What if and then we also are GonNa go through some Inventions here some some things that were invented this game invented. This was the start as we said. A lot of things started two thousand three national talking. So let's start with the The Castro who is your pick for the greatest of all time to good goat will say. Yeah the goat of this game for me. I've actually gone back and forth on because I think there's an easy pick and I think there's a hard pick and I think I went with the easy pick and I think the easy pickets Carmelo Anthony and I think it's because he obviously is a one and done. Savan is a look gymnast. I just watched the end of this. Gymnast knows about the interview. Permanent THAT'S SMILES. GonNa last for a long time. It's Carmelo Anthony just standing there. And he just seems like a bright future superstar need climb the mountain top in one year and he did it. Kinda like it was almost not as hyped up as it should have been leading added this year with them because no one expects us to do something like this So in that sense. He's the go because he comes in he gets it done and the one done year in it in an it's happening it's Carmo Anthony. Yes pretty obviously Carmelo. I mean that's the reason we know this game is just it's placed in college. Basketball Lowers because Carmelo Anthony is the started the one and done thing as we as we said even though he didn't need whatever it doesn't matter like he was he was so iconic that year and like. I said my fear was. I was going to watch this game and Carmelo was going to be okay and then we were going to retroactively. Decide that Carmelo other-worldly debt what I was very much wrong. Carmelo was unbelievable in the game. Get Twenty seven seven for sixteen from the field. He gets Langford foul trouble which ultimately Dunes Kansas Congressman for vows when Langford on the bench I I kind of went over the problems. Kansas head with their offense without Langford Langford ended up being the leading score for Kansas. By the way at nineteen points in this game He has the big three as well like he hits the big shot. Kansas is kind of coming back graves. Picks off a pass like the block tries. Throw it to an outlet in Heinrich A HALF COURT. Just a horrible horrible pass. It's picked off by Joff Josh Pace I believe and then he throws it up ahead to Carmelo. Who is a big three which is kind of like a dagger three so it wasn't even just like he was good points? Use It huge shots. He was a calm steady influence throughout the game. Carmelo has to be the pick. I mean you could shout out McNamara for going nuts in the first African shout out collison for being for being a beast in his final game and just fallen out leaving it all on the floor of. It's definitely admirable a look back on Nicholson's The way he ended his career should hold his head up high for his effort. And all that stuff. But yet it's definitely Carmelo Anthony. The only other person I would say could chemo. Work Chemo with the block. The only person I would say is Carmelo's hairstylist. Because his corn rows were Titan fresh and Nice especially when you compare them Jeff Graves A little sloppier corner worked so shout out to Carmelo wherever he was getting hair. A very very fresh look on the young man. Yeah Carmelo. Anthony knew what he was doing. He knew it was going to be news building a brand and he was doing the right before our very eyes. And let's get to the version that guy that can't build a brand and that is any other goat not real bad goat. I have a feeling we're going to pick the same guy on this one too. I think it's at least you go. I was GONNA say it's a pretty easy pig in my opinion. And it's a guy that's supposed to be your leader. It's a guy that's supposed to be the one that you depend on God. It's supposed to open up the packed in zone because he's your best three point shooter. You're only three point shooter. Really other than Michael Lee come on. You can't be come on Michael Leeann and national title game. Michael doesn't want that. Pass either Kirk Hinrich. And we could all agree. That Kirk Hinrich. Here's a conspiracy. Michael actually glad that he had his shot blocked by key more because definitely airball in and he would be. He would be the goat if you didn't get a shot blocked but instead like it's been framed as like a great play by Akinori. If I'm Michael Leah. I'm like Oh thank God. He sent that to the third row. Because I was not hitting you know what confirm that curcumin is. Actually the goat for sure though is that he actually did airball the last three. They still had another shot. He still had one more three. He and we'll look and he was so bad that like we forgot that he got look so double goat. That's a good book. The first shot he took in this game airball. The last shot he took in. This game was an air ball and they're both just as bad like they're both so far off. It looks like you didn't even know how to shoot a basketball. I think the one to end the game is more defensible. When your risk by the clock yes just having a slightly more visible than wide open? Look but yet hiring. This is his first five shots. He has won over the airballs. He's six for twenty from the field in this game. He's three for twelve from three point line. And then you contrast that which in and of itself by itself that is bad enough but then on the flip side you have Gerry McNamara Freshman Siracusa three point. Specialists is ball out of his mind going nuts. And you're not hitting anything it just compounds. The problem and I think Hinrichs pick for. That was pretty easy. This is the only time we've ever. Yeah it's ever happened I was GONNA say like there's there's an argument you may maybe Roy Williams because obviously Jim behind the whole goal was to make sure that they had to shoot threes in the day proceeded to just try shoot threes to keep them in the game. So I I you know maybe Roy Williams and let list but it's definitely Kirk. Yeah all right. I'll this'll be more fun More we'll have more arguments over this. I think when when to you was the game over. When was the moment you're rewatch for you? Said of Syracuse is definitely went in this thing. We don't already know this is GonNa win. Yes so there's thirteen minutes. Four seconds left to go in the first half Gerry McNamara heads. The three and it goes twenty three to fourteen and the commercial. And it's like you know become back out and everyone's you know they're telling a story about Jim behind talking about how he wants to get the ball. Carmelo Anthony every single play and that's the best album. It's a basketball cut to the bench and the show the staff. I think of the time they were shooting six or seven for three or something like that and I said Yeah Syracuse is going to win this game. I think this is a I think they're gonNA have the women's game and then if you look at it. Yeah I mean obviously Kansas Mix Iran. We we have the shots at the end. That may be a real chance but once Jerry starts hitting threes in the first half of this game in my opinion it was over. So I'm twenty three to four. That's crazy that early. In retrospect should've been heinrich airball does for Suffolk game or yeah mine was a little later like I kept thinking. 'cause I just had such a vivid memory of this being close game at the end that I thought surely can't just make interesting. Shirley at some point it's GonNa become actually interest so I was still engaged even As you said like mega-mergers going nuts. In retrospect I probably should have known minor was missing in Syracuse built in eighteen point lead. Oh they're just gonNA. They're clearly the better team they're going to win. But I kept holding out. Hope I kept saying like it's going to get interesting at some point ear so my answer was with twelve. Thirty three to play when Heinrich turns his ankle trying to save the ball bows and he has to go. He gets to come out of the game. You wasn't out for long but he was already playing poorly. It had already been beaten into the ground. How important he was how he needs some big shots and how he's gotTa stretch the defense and like we really really need you to show up her and he turned his ankle and it looks really bad. He can't like put any weight on it at first and all that stuff Even when he comes back in I think at that point I okay. This is this is done because it wasn't just the ankle turning and it wasn't just like saying because at that point you know you're pretty much done for the game in terms of being productive up but that came at the end of the sequence states so Kansas cuts the lead the three at sixty one fifty eight on air miles. It gets a fast break layup. Then we have the sequence that I touched on earlier where graves throws the horrible pass. Carmelo hits the three supposedly six then call us and misses two free throws and after that Josh pace gets an easy bucket. The lead is now sixty six to fifty eight so like Kansas Kansas Storm. And all the way back on the air miles thing. They cut the three graces. Though the bad past Carmelo hits the big shot. Carlson business free does pace gets a layup then heinrich turns his ankle like oh so. Kansas had their big Bush. The cut at the three Carmelo is the big shot. Heinrich ankle-. That's it. It's gotta be it's gotTa be again. So that was it for me. I had the four had written down were would McNamara hits one of his threes So I was Kinda thinking the same thing as I had heinrich turned his ankle. The only other two I considered length for fouled out because it was an eight point game with length from files out with like five and a half to play And then when we watched the shot thinks that everyone thought I thought I was going to pick that going into the game. I thought it was going to be one word block the same. I thought it was a good game all the way up until then but on re-watch I have to pick twelve thirty three play when Heinrich turns his ankle. I knew the game. You know it's really funny going into it. I thought it was going to be one or two things. I thought it was going to be. I remember Collison filing out and I was like it's going to be when Nick House and say that's the moment Kansas new. They weren't GonNa win this game or was the block obviously and when it calls and found out when I was rewatching it I already thought the game was over but I was just like it even feel like it was a big moment for whatever might have. Can I just say the standing ovation? The Nick Collison Gut was kind of weak. I don't mean to call out Kansas this fans but I'll do I'll call out syracuse fans. I've only a okay. Let me. Let me backtrack. This'll but what I mean to say is. There was really not a great crowd. Presence in this game and I don't I don't mean attack Syracuse or cans. Maybe it was just like the way the superdome is built. Maybe the acoustics of the Dome or the way. Cbs was wiring and their microphones. Whatever it was but it was really weird. I never really felt like as I was watching the game. The crowd. Really that into it maybe Jerry. Mcnamara's Fall Syracuse. Came out to vic leads you know. Instead on their handle it was they were so tight. I'm telling you that whole building. I don't care I know it. Just too tight. It's just not fun when it's like that I I kind of felt like that with Like watching the two thousand seventeen title Wiggins Aga- fans like they were just so tight because they had so much pure faith in that they were GonNa win. You know it's just It's not as fun like that sometimes. So all right. Let's get to our. What ifs do Someone You got any good. Yeah my number one. Whatever this whole game is all right. What if Let's say what if Jim Behind does not win this game. What happens then? Because here's what happens Jim behind becomes basically the greatest number two of all time he is. Coach K.'s Dr Evil. He is number two and he is right biocide. He's Never GonNa you know he's always going to be you know the bell of the ball or whatever he's always going to be number two man. The zone gets banned from college basketball. Because you can't win with zone. The incidentally comes in and they're just like you know what we don't need this. We don't need coach k. Being able to run zone with a bunch of one dollars. Let's just get rid of this. Jim Boeheim bows out. He's like I'm sorry. I tried. I thought zone would work. But obviously you can't win the big one with zone It's over. It was a good run so all right the zone. So that's one of the. What IF THEY LOSE this game. I'm I'm loses this so winning. This he gets a little taste of success. He thought that the only thing he ever wanted his life was the one one national title but then he gets it. He realizes the real thing he wants. More than anything is to win. More Games than coach K. Yes so now. He's that's why he's still hanging on coaching Maybe if he doesn't win this weirdly enough retires earlier he just gives up on the national retires without national. Because now he's now he's going to die on the bench. Now he's like I got a I got when more than Jay Jay's thinking the same thing and those guys were coach other three hundred years old yes yes. That's a great. What if you do you think you'd be likeable? Do you think would cause like people? Don't really love because he's just a crew module and we over Wide Bay Bam's not the most likable Ghana. We love but we understand. They like the most human college basketball coach. It's ever lived like he's just like you'll straight up. Tell you when he's nervous. I'll tell you what he's thinking at all times coaches exactly how I would coach which is just like a key still to this day is brought us out. Just I mean he's still bitter about the key. Smart shot like a lot of college. Basketball coaches are robots. That just take the next play mentality. Jim Behind the human being like I am. He's like I'm pissed off that you've made that shot. I thought I had the title Bullshit I'm bitter about it. Screw that guy. He still does that attitude. Do you think you'd be more likable? If he never won a title yes. He will be rooting for every single year. Like now he's he's in the twilight of his career that they're like come on Jim. We're all root for. We want you to get your one. I two but he would hate it. Tell you why. Because like he would they would treat him like a baby or two Wa wa or like you know some little like it's like oh it's so cute. We hope he has. You know we hope you can mega run this year and honestly they kind of Bob Huggins like you kind of become like a like a little acute care during the world as opposed to like a real guy who is head coach. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah it's it's a fine line you want you want people to root for. We don't want to pity and I think at this point forty five years in the job. If he hasn't won a title you can be pity. You poor thing. When you mentioned earlier Jim Boeheim and already been at Syracuse for twenty seven years during this game. I just got him his bed. That I'm twenty seven. That guy spent my entire lifetime at Syracuse. Yeah that was easy. Seventeen years ago and high def even been invented yet. Exactly all right. My for this game is what if Wentz immunise healthy I think from a stylistic standpoint it doesn't change much because he's he's not hit breeze we've kind of hammered that Kansas had to make shots. They did not make shots. That's what ultimate cost him to win. Wayne Simeon was not going to go out there and hit threes for them to do though is maybe he he gives them another body to throw a Carmelo and maybe that helps with Langford spelled trouble. Maybe it helps with foul trouble is certainly I think would have helped with Carlson's Fatigue issues that he had late in the game where he's used found a little more tired he was missing. Free throws them all of that site. I don't know where I fall on this. I don't think Wayne Simeon wins the game for Kansas. But I think it definitely helps their chances. I- Syracuse was just so like Winston is not gonNa Guard Gerry McNamara threes himself a winston. It's not going to you know. Go Ten for ten from the free throw line so ultimately. I think the problems that the harm Kansas. I don't think Wayne Siemian directly solves them but he definitely helps out because you can kind of lake take a little bit of the load off. Langford. Maybe link for doesn't fell out. Maybe give him some more points you know. It was more of a trickle effect. And when he started doing that you Kinda lose me with the what is so. I don't really think it's that big a deal. I like my. What if some lake? You change that one thing. It fundamentally changes everything with the Simeon thing. I think you've changed that that it has to change something else which is something else which changes something else at that point. Who Cares? So let's just do my. What at that fundamentally changes everything because we see it's already changed college basketball. It's in fact it's already in college basketball. What if the G. League lead Carmelo Anthony playing for what I would say Syracuse? I said I think yeah. I think I think circus would've lost by other. What if would be? What if it doesn't fell out already kind of touched on that? Because if you go back and do that play. Leedle Bill etling absolutely flops on this on this email driving to the basket Langford Garnham. How did trips over his own feet? It's the fifth foul Lankford. He he's he can't believe it he gets sent to the bench his his season's over at that point scored nineteen points for Kansas. I think that call. I don't think it really matters. I forget what the score was at that point. I think down like eight still six. Maybe I still think Syracuse wins but that one is more intriguing to me than Simi. Implants because I think Langford. Yeah I think of lengthens not foul trouble. Think doesn't get called for that foul. It's a much more interesting into the game but I still think searches once. That's why I I still keep coming back to that like I. Don't think any of these things that drastic. Yeah my last one. If that I have is what if you know? Kansas wins his game. What if Roy Williams in Kansas they win this national championship and what's a ripple effect? Because here's what I think happens. I think that Roy Williams decided to stay in Lawrence Kansas. I think they win that game. I think that he catches feelings. I think he finally reaches the mountaintop. He almost feels like he doesn't have to go to North Carolina to get that validation from you know that experience in his life because he was able to reach at a Kansas and I think if that were to happen that would be insane because North Carolina's head coach right now would probably be bills and pink. Oh yeah that's interesting. If you went I certainly think of Kansas. Wins and Roy Lee Carolina. Kansas fans. Don't hate him and there's no Oh yeah yeah for sure. We're going to get to that a second. We're going to get to the whole Roy could leave. I don't think he gave. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA talk about Roy Harris. Yeah can't if Roy wins it's I don't I don't think so either. I don't know that that is fascinating. Maybe maybe cause it. Because is it something where it's like. I got the one thing I wanted now. I can leave and be happy knives I think about it or is it. Like the whole reason you went to Carolina's because he thought himself I can't win a national title at Kansas. I just can't do whatever it is. I'm cursed I can't do it here. I need a fresh start dance why he went to Carolina. Yeah that's an interesting interested not the only other. What if I had is a? What if Kansas made shots? Wow Sin senator kinder you gotTa make shots toward at this level. Kansas did not make shots. You're the losers yeah that that's pretty much all right. Let's let's go over a list of things that were invented. Let's let's remind the people what was invented in basketball in this game. We already kind of started the first one. Carmelo with the superstar Treatment Yep Yep superstar treatment with the refs Carmelo events that my number one mentioned in this game was for Jim Boeheim. He invented small ball. Jim Boeheim was the creator of Small Ball. He Of course took out and put in game work game work at the big black so small ball where's Waldo chimps small so no one ever obviously? Carmelo invented the one and done model This is the I love. The CARMELO was not during the one and done era. Which is anytime people talk about one dollars. You still have to mention Carmelo. And there's always the caveat people can't say like one and done such as Greg Oden. Anthony Davis Kevin Durant and Carmelo at like you always have to say you always have to include those guys and then say in parentheses also Carmelo Anthony. Who's not part of one than Arabic started the trend? Anyway it's we'll explain it later. You've got a muddy the waters on the whole thing but Carmelo invented the one and done whether it doesn't matter what the weather rules in place or not way everyone will remember it. Is that Carmelo? Anthony was the first ever guy to be one and done in college basketball. Yes yes hundred. Percent Hundred Percent Roy. Williams have ended the break-up and Roy Williams of into the blue break up which is basically like I can jump from Blueblood to Blueblood and I can get away with it and no one's really going to care that much obviously really cared the media that ranked the coaches. That's the only billups overweight. He invented the oversell of when you leave. One School. Just like oversell. How much torn up about it out the door bring. It was the best it was me. It wasn't you guys. It was me I had Gerry. Mcnamara invented the unconscious ray rage He invented the absurd shoot from anywhere on the floor range that was mimicked by JJ After a kind of overlap their careers actually over left. Jj redick copied them. Even though is riddick older than it actually the same age. I think they're the same age either. Yeah they're both I one. They're the same age but McNamara Venit McNamara and vintage. Just like going from anywhere I got. I got the hot hand. And then Morrison Riddick Jimmer Steph trae young. All these guys it was invented by Gerry McNamara. He was the first great shooter in College Basketball History. Exactly he was the original Original love that next up to Mitch. this is not an invention but as soon as you pointed out. Jj rennick men to sixteen sweet sixteen for people that want to couric. Yeah Kirk Work for nine sure but JJ sixteen. That sounds a lot worse than me. But yeah bitch invented zone defense. I actually let this update here. Here are the three teams that one plane zone. So Michigan State Played Zone seventy-nine while they won the title. Magic Johnson could guard anybody so they would hide magic defensive deficiencies planes Villanova of course at eighty five played zone against Georgetown because they had no answer for Patrick yes so they play eighty. They play the perfect game. Villanova perfect game in eighty five and then. Unlv of course played the Amoeba with Tarquini in nineteen ninety. Those are the three teens. It doesn't matter it doesn't matter as far as we're concerned. Zone defense was invented in two thousand three. Jim Bay high started the zone. Defense three so Giambi haven't been zone. He'd vanity idea of zone defense winning national titles to. I love that in a in a tell a held up. You don't mean it still to this day. People were like thousand three. That's when so defense works of also had Kirk Hinrich Nick Collison invented Roy Williams pipeline to Iowa which actually isn't true. Either Review of France was raised in frontier radio. France was from a Iowa but in my mind they kept hammering home. That calls Heinrich from Iowa. They were coach. Assads from Iowa. Yeah so I think that was the pipeline to Iowa at the broadest. Marcus page in Harrison Barnes. So yeah that was invented by yes. So thank you for Harrison Barnes and Marcus. Pay To really appreciate that. Nicholson and Kirk Hinrich. That checks out that. What else out? Here macnamara invented the red hot first half that we already talked about that. Spike Albright Heinrich air miles invented the Marcus page and Joel. Berry shifting over to the Combo Guard very much breast about all I have. Is there anything else? What else? What else was invented? I think the biggest invasion of all this was Carmelo. Anthony getting getting the the player. I calls in college basketball. We've never seen that before. So I I want to put that out there as a great invention I say can I say quit the Wany? We haven't even really shouted out quite the way the lone senior on the Syracuse team. Mazing name Hoosier as well Bloomington North High School. Same highschools jared Jeffries same high school Sean May dwayne. He invented the idea of like he was the captain of the team. He invented the idea of clearly not being the best player on the team. But like somebody arguing that. He's the most important player on the team. Even though anyone with you only need to eyeballs you could have one functioning Dick Vitelle with one eyeball rain. It's all the way he's not even close to the best player on. I'm sure at some point three someone. Who's like listen? I understand Carmelo. Is the best understand? Jerry gives us a lot of shooting but just think from an intangible steamboat especially like your mind. Bechtol three date. Would he got this team full of freshman? I guarantee there are people like I. Just think with being the senior. Captain keeps these guys together. I think the intangibles I think is defense. I think the way he mixes it up with these guys. Keep them all focused. I think I think you could make an argument that causes most important. So I'm GONNA say Wayne he invented the idea most important player. The being the most important player. Even though you're not even close to the most talented player Okay Dago. Most important play on an ashtray. Which team now the most valuable? But the most important thing. What else we have to hit on. Do you have any fun? Facts that for clean up duty that we missed. Honestly the biggest thing that I want to talk about is the fact that just Roy Williams part of this like the the aftermath this which we kind of talked about it but the MED thirty on Wednesday announced shift aftermath. Let's do let's just get into it. Let's head first into the Roy Williams aftermath. Okay so Oliver inventions done and here we are Roy. Williams is now just lost with senior guys. He is now with Kansas but also a lot of rumors about Carolina and then we Bonnie Bernstein. That does a little interview with Racy Wilson. Not Tracy Wolfson so we apologize to our listeners out there for so long. I actually had it marked on my computer when I looked at the file. Tracy Wolfson Roy Williams and It's not as Bonnie Bernstein eurowings. But you know here we are and she s Roy Williams about the northbound Carolina job. Obviously it was a somber time at this point coach Williams. You know it's a tough loss for you guys. Have you had any time to think about the North Carolina job and he said Look Bonnie I give a shit about North Carolina in that in that is the last thing that is when Roy Williams the demand. That's one where we went from. North Carolina fans are excited their scouting their new code or Washington. An Ashtray Game Two way to Dean Smith not cuss and if if this is who this guy thinks he is. We're trying to hire coach K. So immediately North Carolina Fans. They go on the offensive where their dislike going. Roy Williams who are you to say like you don't give a shit about North Carolina while we don't give a shit about you so there's like a week of that goes on all just kinda get sits under the rug because again Dean Smith comes back in need Smith says look everybody we gotta have a win like if you what Carolina basketball like. This is who you want and it all comes do we have. Do we have the audio of Bonnie bursting ruins we yet. Lewis Lewis Mary understandably. You didn't want to address this issue during the week but many people out there with the game over one A. What your level of interest is in the North Carolina job coach body? I could give a flip about what those people want as a journalist. You have to ask that question. I understand that but as a human being it's always people that want that answer right now. They're not very sensitive. Offer you the that. Would you be willing to take it? I haven't thought about that for one. Second haven't thought about that. One second the guy in your ear. That told you have to ask that question as a journalist. That's fine but as a human being. That's not very nice because it's not very sensitive and I got that in tough times. That people should be more sensitive. I could give about North Carolina right now. I've got kids in that locker room. Thank you for two things. I want to point out here. You already covered their Roy's custody and this is a big deal Roy. Williams doesn't cause North Carolina coaches. Don't cuss Dean. Smith wouldn't allow this to happen. He could tell the first time. He says that he says Bonnie I could give a flip what these people want. So he's tested. He's like revving up the engine a little bit. He's dipping his toes in the water. He he does the cuss word without causing. I could give a flip and then body. He kinda shoots doughty says You know he says the journalist hard but as a human being understand that and he thinks it's over he thinks if I just say that Bonnie will leave me alone. Monte birdseed goes back to the Welsh all. That's great coach. What if he offers you if they offer you the job? Or you're GONNA take it. And that's what he snaps he's like. I don't give a shit about North Carolina and so that was hilarious. Roy was just got a you know he was. He just kept hidden poked but the the fact that Bonnie Burston asked him again. The fact that Roy Williams is calling out cook. We talked to the guy who is in her ear. Whatever happened to that guy? I need to wear out to the guy that was in Bonnie Bernstein. Roy said you're a bad human being the producer. He's like Bonnie. I know that you're not asking that question. But whoever's in your ear bad man he's a bad bad man but at the same time. Roy respects the business. He's a journalist. I understand this request. You must have great work. I would give you the word great journalism and I respect that but as a human being your piece of Shit but then put the ball on it all after Roy just reams Bonnie Bernstein and CVs at all of that. He said She says coach. Thank you very respectfully. A hits hits him with the coach. Thank you very much So I I love that. Roy invented the The the cantankerous post game interview with the the Letter Hamilton Dana Jacobson. Add that to the list so to the larger points eight. Roy Williams gets asked about North Carolina. He says I haven't I haven't thought about it for a single second. Not One second of I thought about North Carolina exactly seven days later he takes the North Carolina job and kind of shapes modern college. Basketball's we know and as we said Carmelo on its college basketball. If you're looking at it as it's due to wrong thing of players and coaches Carmelo Anthony in this game shapes the direction of the players. He starts the one done movement. He makes it a viable thing. Where you know we talked about earlier. Amari Stoudamire Carmelo Anthony to the best recruits in college basketball going into the season. Amare Stoudamire obstacle pro. First Carmelo Anthony Obstacle College in Carmelo shows the path that like if you go to college and kill it and win a national title star. You hit the ground running when you get to the league and everyone already knows your name and you can can use college for that one year as a jumping off point whereas Hari obviously had a great year but like it took him out of my own little while for people to know who Amari Stoudamire was so Carmelo shows us the path with he kind of lays the groundwork for modern college basketball players. Go Roy Williams leaving North Carolina sets the framework for modern college basketball with coaches. Because then bill self comes because comes to Kansas Bruce Weber goes to Illinois If Bill Self was on the bench for Illinois Maybe Illinois Beach North Carolina title game but instead Roy Winds Carolina gets going from there and and away. We go well. Let's talk about the fallout Roy. Going to North Carolina eight because the day after he takes the job. I found this clip of of him being interviewed by a young Mike. Greenberg a younger Mike. Greenberg will say on sportscenter. And he says Roy Roy doing the overselling how bad he feels. He's asked about how he felt with. Doherty was fired. He says I was stunned. Authority wasn't he resigned. Yes yay door gave them the option. Yeah yeah he says. I was stunned. I felt uncomfortable. Matt's guy like this is very awkward for me it He then says that he felt like a traitor kept using the word trader that he felt like a traitor for the recruits who ended up being. Who were the recruits Omar? Wilton David Padgett. I think most guys that can't had signed. He called them to tell him he was leaving. He says I feel like a trader. He made clear that he was going back to the banquet on Thursday. So this is on. I'm trying to get my day straight. This is on Monday. He takes the job the Monday after the title game. A week later he takes the job. That Thursday was the Kansas postseason banquet. Roy went back to Lawrence for that and he say he's talking to Mike Greenberg about this. Kansas Finish are not happy. Obviously they're very very hurt by this a Scot Pollard. This is my favorite part of all the fall out Scot Pollard. Calls the calls the Lawrence newspaper unsolicited and just starts talking about how he feels like. He's been betrayed by by coach. Leaving Scot Pollard left Kansas in one thousand nine hundred seventy left six years earlier and he was calling the Lawrence paper unprovoked. It was just like here. Are My thoughts? Take grab a pen and paper thoughts a so. He he left Kansas absolutely shook because they promise the national title. They thought they were in this together. They thought it was a family. Roy Preach Loyalty and he left the tape. And I don't know your thoughts on all this but I thought it was pretty easy Because it's hilarious you know. Seventeen years You know it was April fourteenth. Read so you just do the math. It's not that long after next year which gave no about a week or so after James. Who gave Roy Williams as announced the head coach North Carolina? So he goes from. I don't give a flip. The on the new head coach nicely. You know that. That's that's A. That's a turnaround that we've seen all way too many times at this point but the lead up to it was all the rumors that were going. Reverend Williams was you know I mean. The two thousand rumors were everywhere. Ruins is gonNA come North Carolina. That was a dean wants to happen. Guttridge wants to happen Roy. You know he's done a great job Kansas. He's obviously had all these great players but North Carolina is home wants to come back to his home state. Yadda Yadda did he doesn't come in. It's because he wants to stay in Lawrence and Wanda's wife with Saint Lawrence and all sorts of stuff so there's three years of just shit you know for North Carolina Basketball No one's having a good time nothing. Nothing's going well. Anyways Roy Williams is doing what you're saying which is like chiming in from the outside like why hope Matt figures it out. I Love I love you. Know How he coaches. Those kids got it. Yeah so you're getting all this from work in the air irritated right because you're just like you didn't want to be here now. You're commenting on it and stay over there. Yeah but then he comes full force and you almost have to walk back that three years of wake but then he still has that outlook for Kansas that he did have Carolina before where he's like. I hope Kansas figure. I hope the day. Paget ITO figures out live Lawrence North Carolina fans like. We don't care about day. Whoever that is I care about. Rashaad McCann's Weiss throwing balls at our head coach practice like. Can we figure that out when we get into practice? Figure that out. So that's the funniest that's sort of like the most interesting thing with coach. Williams that he's both sides of the coin with Kansas fans an with Carolina fans. He has a love hate relationship even though I mean look ruins seventeen years of North Carolina nine regular season titles forty five Tournament Wins Five. Final fours four Title Game Appearances Three Natural Championships complain about that. But there's also the underside of that. There's the undercard with Narcan fans you've been stood up before you know it doesn't matter. Everyone remembers two thousand sorority. Get over that and I think his first year honestly was like a it was growing pains like talking about like like he was benedict. Arnold or whatever like nobody was ear that North Carolina Chapel Hill. To hear. You say that you feel like you betrayed. Kansas came home betrayed anybody. But Roy ahead to like I don't know it was a weird flip and everyone but they can't poindexter like I used to know the first year I was like who is this guy can't say it gets but then I fell in love and this is why Roy was so conflict. I really do think. Roy's genuine because I think he made clear that North Carolina was the only job you would ever leave for but but Kansas fans also had. They rightfully felt very upset about this. Because this wasn't just a case of coach leaving for a program first of all it's a hard pill to swallow in your Kansas and someone voluntarily Turns Down The head coaching job at your school. Because you're like your chances. Who why would you not want to be here? We're the best of the best like what are you. What do you mean. You're leaving voluntarily right after we almost want national title that makes no sense whatsoever But there's also the unfinished business. Kansas has won a title since one thousand nine hundred eight. It'd been fifteen years at that point and you know it was it. Was Roy been within the entire? Ron is the face of those fifteen years. Roy's the face the fifteen years. It's all it's all building to this moment and you come back close to where it probably in Kansas fans. Minds of Michael Lee makes the shot. They went and overtime and that's probably what they had convinced themselves. So that like we were so close to win the national title. And you're GONNA bail on his now that I understand their point of view. Especially Roy preached family the whole time and they feel betrayed but it is kind of perfect how it all worked out because obviously you pointed out. Carolina's was better for it. They've won three national titles. Since then no more titles Roy Williams. Since he left Carolina a Yukon is one three but one Kevin Kelly as a little side but a Kansas. Better for bill comes like maybe maybe the Roy Bill Self. I'm not saying who would have been better. Whatever but I think he's as fans would agree that the way it worked out ended up being perfectly ended up being perfect that twenty years. Later after Danny Manning eight you win and you don't just win an eight you beat you caroline on the way to winning you beat Roy Williams in the final four. Don't don't beat him blow him out. Roy Is then wearing the Jayhawk wearing two thousand. Three hundred percents doesn't happen if Kansas wins. The national title in Two Thousand Three and then Roy wrote lineup. He's not wearing the Jayhawk he's lying. I don't feel bad. Whatever the only reason he did that is because Kansas fans were so upset when he left that he felt that bad. That he's like you. Kinda overdid it Roy. You should put your foot down with like L. With all the I give you fifteen. Good years you not accept the kiss my ass. But he's too nice but then not only all of that but then the way. Kansas eight ended up being perfect. Because it was the missed free throw by Memphis just like a teamwork missed the free throw Syracuse. And there's the scramble. They need a three to send it to overtime. Instead of getting shot blocked they make it. They win over time. It was all perfect. I don't think he's got a scripted or any barriers fan so it all worked out for Kansas. It was just crazy. The the the wheels that went emotion when Roy left and they started turning on d do like Kansas fans. Dean Smith probably not anymore but I I was digging up all these articles that are written about how held Roy. Dean is a Kansas Guy Dean from Kansas play. Kansas Kansas through and through. Why would he? Why would he stabs all modern the back like this just to get Roy Williams North Carolina? The whole thing the whole thing was juicy but it worked out for everybody. Everybody says well. It's funny because like just the the drama behind at the Kansas. The Kansas connective tissue North Carolina with fog Allen with Dean Smith with Larry Brown with Roy Williams and all those guys basically being able to pick and choose their loyalties. So it's like a and they have the two best backyards to pick you. Don't I mean it's like you want Lawrence Wilt Chamberlain and all in fog on all these guys deeds method? You Are Frank. Maher or the list goes on. And on Ron Leaning Rosenthal is people end is because Dean Smith obviously like became the North Carolina person at that point but he still had such an affinity for Kansas. That he didn't want them to like he knew how they all know how fickle situation is and how much it will blow up and it's just so funny that they tried to do it all behind closed doors in secretly and like you know trying to get the all the cards and all the ducks in a row and this is the year. Roy should leave. North Ron's ready to get rid of met thirty this year. It's like all these things were just like being decided behind closed doors but they were also getting leaked and it was time on. The Internet wasn't around like it is today so it was all rumor mill. It was all just like folklore and I think that's why I was so dramatic when it all happened because it didn't even feel real like when ruined it came out of the Roy. Williams is here as a kid. It took you know some days for that to be like. Are you serious? Jawad Williams is going to have its coach. What we're going to be the has to be. The biggest is that the biggest higher in college basketball says since then has has there been a bigger. I'm trying to think of a moment that was bigger than that. Like when you said like Oh man this is Ms Calipari or Roy Area Kentucky. I mean but I don't really think that's that's maybe it is. I guess it's sort of the same thing ish but yeah I don't know but but Memphis wasn't like it was more defensible because like he's leaving Memphis using conference. Usa At the time Memphis Day. Just like hiring the hottest coaches. Yeah this one is like Oh my God. Someone's leaving Kansas right after going to the national title game. That's crazy but it all worked out for everybody. The wheel motion bill self goes to Kansas. Bruce Weber gets the Illinois job. If Bruce Waiver. If that doesn't happen Bruce Weber doesn't inherit. Bill Secretes go to the title game. Maybe Bruce Weber like when he gets fired from Illinois. He doesn't end up at Kansas state and may be yeah like he ends up Kansas State which actually helps Kansas fans as well right. Right is the rebel receiver for fans. Did Not want to listen to this. If you listen to this now you understand all this head. It was all it was all. It was inevitable enough about Kansas. Though we gotta talk about Syria I could I could just subconsciously feel Syracuse fans getting mad at spend time talking about the damn champions the aftermath of Syracuse so Carmelo goes pro. Obviously we all know his story. I guess I guess I'm looking back on a date. Carmelo Anthony. His what's wild about. This is that he spends one year in college and we've made this point before his one year in college has overshadowed he's had a hall of fame MBA career. He's going to go to the hall of fame. He's one of the one of the greatest. Nba players ever. Even though he's never won a title. People say this is all whatever the guys. The guys unbeliev is one of the best players of his generation. Whatever and yet he still arguably not even arguably to me but like arguably to the the greater picture better known for his one year Syracuse because it was just that magical he was. He was that good. That's pretty crazy to think about. Is that people still to this day. Talk about Carmelo Syracuse Carmelo in the Olympics in NBA Carmelo NBA Carmelo. Is everyone favor version of carpeting? Say It's like Olympics in Syracuse. Carmelo battle it out for the top and then it's like a long drop. It's like yeah. Nba Mellow and the guys. Like one of the greatest scores. He's unbelievable and when he was on the Doug it's unbelievable when they could have gone the finals a few times. But somehow we forget about all that sort of stuff I don't so let's the Carmelo. Aftermath is like his legacy will endure forever as the guy who We've been joking little tongue-in-cheek about like inventing the one and done thing. But even if even if he didn't invent the one and done it's just like he he is forever. The model of using one year of college basketball to boost your profile to submit your legacy and then in hit the ground running as a as a bonafide star and then gay Jerry. Go ahead oh I was GONNA say forget that if he gets drafted by the Pistons would have won a championship. Most likely unless he took all the shots away from teacher on prints or something but they probably wanted Jamie. Then everyone would say Carmelo. Anthony Bajic Johnson Larry Brown would have ran out of NBA basketball basketball actually Gerry McNamara aftermath. We all know he finished his career. No six with the legendary big tournament run where Syracuse wants. Four Games of four days on all of them were basically possession of title game. If you pick by four ends up stuck in the Stadium in the first round McNamara just completely runs out of gas but He he becomes a legend in his own right host. This like that's that was what was cool about. Mcnamara's like it wasn't just he had this. One Ron faded into oblivion he. He was great throughout his entire career. Of course we get the Bay We wouldn't win ten fucking Games Without Gerry. Mcnamara the legendary rant. That will always always think about what I think Gerry. Mcnamara behind saying we wouldn't have won ten fucking games and I think a string cheese but for McNamara to book in his career with the national title and then of course they lose in the first round of his senior year that the tournament. But that big run Almost worth it it's almost better syracuse fans. I think they'd rather have had that. Oh Six big East Ron. Who's in the first round? Have them like lose in the second round of the Big East tournament and losing the Sweet? Sixteen in Oh six you know what I mean like. It's almost better. Just have the biggest ron inflame out. Then see as So anyway that's the that's the macnamara aftermath and then we all know behind behind still stuck around. He's in your forty five. Made a couple more final four since then. Add Two teams had the team in twenty two and twenty twelve. Both felt like they were good enough to win. It both had a Fab. Melo had the academic problem in two thousand twelve. Because he couldn't speak. English is expected to take all the classes and then a honor walk. You had the leg injury and in two thousand ten eight up the Butler in the Sweet Sixteen Gordon Hayward Butler team. He's had some good teams. Never had a team. That's really he said team. That could contend. He's he had the twenty thirteen team. That beat Indiana made. The final four by Carter Will Exhibit Twenty Sixteen Team at Virginia. Louis obviously but never really had a team. That was like this team is going to win. The National Title Other Than Twenty. Two thousand twelve was probably best shot but like Kentucky with Soga that year and Carolina was so good that year. Yeah so anyway. That's his one shot so it's a good thing he wanted to. I guess I was GonNa say like Gympie. I've that was that was the year he did it. And that's why we're so confident that I added Jerry Makmur from the other day. I don't think if day goes by when you don't think about that moment which is like one of the national image. And you know I think a Lotta Times on the show we joke about. You Know College basketball dying all sorts of stuff and the end of whatever it was but Gerry McNamara saying that got me a little bit. Because he's still ask Syracuse on staff right now and just the fact that like that game that moment it's still has such Like a space in his heart in his mind I it says something about college basketball at that time. And it says something about you know what it means to perform all nets And have it be such a special moment and to continue to let it be and not be like? He was so pure how he was saying. It wasn't like I'm bragging about it. I WanNa talk about our days. It's like I think about it. Every day makes me happy. He's be happy. There's there's no point in trying to rank stuff like this because it's stupid and in fruitless and who who really ultimately cares but it really does feel like Syracuse the fan base of Syracuse is a tighter community then again. I don't know where they rank in terms of like the tightest commute like the most familial type community but the faculty Jim Boeheim grew up. There went there and has been their entire life the fact that like Jerry. Mcnamara's plays they're in the now he. It really does feel like Gerry. Mcnamara is going to be there the rest of his life. Yes eventually take over. He's going to be the new bay. I but just that whole region of the country is feels like they got they got that. Russ Bell mentality of like. We'll make fun of ourselves will crap on ourselves for how much it snows here. There's nothing to do. Here are the only show in town Syracuse basketball but if anybody from outside Syracuse tries to make fun of us will kill you we you and I love places like that. That to me is what I think of what I think is. Syracuse is like that fan base Is just so. It's just like a cultural thing and obviously a lot of these things I'm saying are true. Fan bases around the country but like it just feels like a special trip. Syracuse that one observation. I've had steered Francis Wealth They all have like old old gear that they wear like you're watching A. Syracuse gave you always see like this scattered about in the carrier Dome sweatshirts? It looked like they were made in the sixties or eighties. People like no of like like people that have been fans of Syracuse basketball for only like the last ten years or whatever they did grow up there but they went to school there or they're younger fans whatever they still like have opinions on parole Washington per watching Jersey Democrat. Yeah they they still really really care and it's like how could you possibly share about that? You aren't old enough to remit but it's because it's been beaten it's such a cultural thing there so for them to have the one title and not just the one title. I really do think that like this team. Winning is so much cooler than the nine hundred sixteen for example like no disrespect to John Wallis but like that was kind of a forgettable series team. Eighty seven was a good team. That would have been a good team if they want. But it's cool that three-team it's cool. That you have a guy like Carmelo Anthony who is an icon he's not just a syracuse icon. He's college basketball. Icon Jerry Magnum era. Everyone will remember him It just all kind of came together perfectly in a weird way. I really do think it's better for Jim. Boeheim for his legacy for like how I will remember him for a all that other stuff that he only wanted one. I think it's like we really better that Jim. Boeheim only one because it like makes it more special and it makes the fact that it happened in the superdome after the eighty seven situation was shot it just all ties together so perfectly and I don't know that's that's kind of it that's all I really have. Yes got a guy like a mass amino vibrated. There it's like they had to do it that year. If they do that you're they would never done it. And then they did it and it's like it's nice to go back and reflect and just look at even say we're talking about an active college basketball coach by the way we're just like he's never gonNa do it like yeah you could do it next year talking about. Bam like he's dead. He's been dead for fifteen years did so so good for him. I do want to rattle through some fun facts though to put a nice bow on this thing Nice. I had some things written down here. That some cleanup duty. That we missed a number ONE GERRY MCNAMARA FROM SCRANTON. Did they hundred times in the in the broadcast but screen became famous later as we as we know the office. Do you think they pick scranton because the office started like? Oh five right before yet. I feel Fran because at Gerry McNamara height of Jerry Magpies career absolutely Larry. Where's this guy from Scranton Pennsylvania? Let's go how nickname house. Mcnamara's nickname not electric city. I have this written down. This is this is looking back on it. Scranton is the electric city. That feels. That feels like a Dick vitelle nickname for Gerry. Mcnamara. No like. I don't know big swinging Amiss by college basketball media back then another fun fact Nick Collison and drew good. Who a year before this took place. They won back to back in. Abc National Awards which is absolutely staggering. So in Otsu drew. Gooden wins the ABC National Player. The AUBERGE will and then an oath re when David West and TJ Ford splitting all the national players here. Nick Collison slips in there and Wednesday. In a beastie national player. So I don't know who is voting on ABC but that Guy Loves Kansas basketball. Say Large someone in Lawrence Kansas vote. He's like yeah. Love McConnell's the The other thing I was going to say Another fun fact. The only non Kirk Hinrich made three by Kansas in this game was Michael Lee. As soon as he checked in from the corner that he ended up getting blocked from So the only three that. Kansas wasn't Kirk was the Michael Lee. Michalik actually made a shot from that exact corner that it can more into block from. I found that kind of interesting What else here. Behind Gary Williams both Coach their Alma maters titles and back to back years and then two years later. Roy want his own runner. So that was interesting to me they. They brought that up in the broadcast back to back years back to back years. We love that. It's good to see I had a Kirk Hinrich. Last made field goal of his career was a two handed dunk when he leaked out ahead. They threw it up to him and he he went baseline I think that's pretty funny. He at the last few goaltenders airball three and last night one was a was a two done and then the only other thing I was going to say was zone. Defense was illegal Ba from nineteen forty seven into until two thousand two so syracuse won this title right after the NBA said zone defenses allowed in India for the first time in over fifty years and then Syracuse won the title in College Zone Defense. Oh I found that interesting as well. Oh One more thing Kansas was two hundred seventy seven. Free-throw percentage in two hundred nineteenth in three point field goal percentage on the season college basketball. So we probably should have saw that coming that they weren't GonNa make shots the free. Yeah the free throw situation was abysmal. It's Ozzy was shocking. You've been watching it seeing how bad it was like in Primetime Eh Yeah you mentioned his own defense. That's pretty much. What the whole if you were to look at the back channels of basketball like Jerry Colangelo. Usa Basketball something something happened there the NBA like zone? Defense needs to come back. We need defense in Jim Bay. I was the face of that. They put him out there. He made it happen. He delivered a graduation. Go on. You're still here. You're still kicking. You're still win. It still plans on still picking your nose on the bench. Love it anything else. What else are we gotta talk about? I think we hit it all right. Yeah they had it all. I WanNa do another TNT classic. I like it. We didn't National Championship game. I hope you didn't upset the Kansas fans. Obviously because they did not last game. Yeah we we did our best. We did our best. I I love doing these. These are so fun. I know that people don't necessarily love listening to them. That's a seems to be dominated as like it's it seems Pacific for just a fan base that one but I don't care if we don't we don't as Roy Williams said we don't give a flip with those people think we don't get a reader we we certainly do not give we enjoy doing on the. It's it's by far the most fun I have during the show. The regular fixed we deep dive into a start digging up stuff a Taking trips down memory lane. So hopefully guys -joyed But again if we don't give flip we'll be back on Monday with regularly scheduled programing talking about this. Wake forest higher talking about the all the happenings. The news notes of college basketball upper usual. So thanks for listening. -gratulations Syracuse Orange. You're still it's thousand three national champions on rewatch after watching it. We are still claiming. We are still deciding that you have won the two thousand three National Championship. Congratulations stay mellow.

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Is That A Solution?

PTI

17:14 min | 6 months ago

Is That A Solution?

"Back in the attic. Obviously we'll on. We're going to start with baseball. I'm going to the glasses because I wanna make sure I have this right. Baseball as iron is eyeing the fields in mid may not every field fields in Arizona? Where you are now cat this league stadiums. I guess the diamondbacks stadiums there will be no fans all players will be sequestered deliver together. It's possible that home plate will be electronically empire will bond us. All this makes sense to you. Tony what it's it's ambitious. It's forward thinking and forward looking in baseball. Has To make plans. Not just one plan a plan for if this a plan for that and understand and they probably have do this every day but behind me. Tony where where you're looking. People are unbelievably excited about this. Even if they think it's ambitious because those stadiums Tony you speak about two cactus league stadiums. You can get to all of them in about forty minutes with no traffic. Probably even less around the one. Oh one which is. Which is our beltway out here but Tony does seem ambitious. Because there's still so much we don't know I listen to Adam silver talk about the last night and I thought he was unbelievably candidate in a way that I applaud when he said I know less now than I knew a month ago and so yes you put these things at play you want to. For how long can you sequester them? How effective is it going to be? How are people players willing to be without their families if they're sequestered so much we still don't know yeah right well what we know? Is that the NBA has no plan and baseball. Has this plan. And apparently the baseball players are talking to baseball management which says to me that the players WanNa play they WANNA get paid. They want to play. This is something that apparently has. It's reported to have the approval of the federal government. The state government in Arizona is reportedly intrigued by this. I know exactly what you're thinking. I'm thinking the same thing what happens in your positive tests. How long do they shut down? How often do they come back? At what point do they say? We don't want to do this at all anymore. And how do they deal with the heat in Arizona? But they've got the stadiums they apparently have interest on both sides and they've got what feels like a plan yet sam vicious but every day we sort of feel let's have some hope. It feels like a little bit of hope. Does it not tell me we can have hope I got hope? I WanNa see it even though I wouldn't see it I mean I'd just like to know that there's base for substance. You mentioned the players WanNa play soda the NBA players. They WANNA play. Everybody wants to play. The question is what is your leadership. Willing to concede is possible or less than possible optimistic or too optimistic. We don't know and so look I Sony. Even if his degrees I hope it. Yeah the most intriguing piece of this is. The players are not even going to sit in the dugouts. They're going to sit in the stands to maintain social distancing. I mean this is a year with all sports where anything and everything becomes possible in your thinking right you have to. You have to allow for all sorts of differences. If you're going to put this together Tony I told you I was GONNA come to stay out here. A lot of reasons to be here away from the epicenter. Social TO SUCK DISTANCING. You can go a day not see anybody you don't have to not living on top of each other like the. I ninety five corridor I get. Why baseball would be interested in this and I hope it works but I just have some reservations and listen according to sports net in Canada Tony. Nhl is considering a plan similar to baseball's plan with the possibility of staging games in North Dakota. Or maybe New Hampshire Tony. Do you like the idea this idea of the NHL taking its talents to Fargo. Well what I like about this is. It is more finite then baseball. Because you're going to start with the play offs and every week in the playoffs won. The series is over half the people clear out so when you get to the finals you only really have two teams. That have been there for a long time. In psych that reality show survivor. You are voted off the island at some point. Apparently North Dakota has wonderful facilities for hockey again. We're going to get to a what happens when people test positive if indeed they do but in terms of hockey minor league hockey for example. You're always in small towns. They're always role. You know North Dakota's right next to Canada. It is not going to feel like a dislocation for hockey players and again the finite quality of it. I think it's a good plan but just a plan. That's how I feel about both of them. Tony Baseball and hockey. And what do if anything do North Dakota and Arizona have in common is different as they are. You don't have the density that you have in the great majority of markets where those teams in both those sports even the NHL play regularly so and call home. So yes you have these plans. It's only the plans may have to change. Maybe we take a turn for the better. And you don't even need these plans. They both these sports can look out over the landscape and see something in early July. It says okay we can play in our arenas we can have fans down the road. Maybe that's more like August so yes. That would be really hopeful. As long as we'RE GONNA BE HOPEFUL. Tony again like baseball. I hope the NHL could pull this off with those playoffs intriguing and we would watch right. We would know fans in the stands we would do because we presume vision has to be involved. We'll we'll yeah but that that's that's the basis of it in hockey in hockey what you can do for. Just the playoffs is you can go to a place. That's rural goal to a place that doesn't have population density and put on a television show. Which is what those players are going to be the larger question looming over baseball looming over hockey looming over everybody is is it going to be like the NBA? Where one positive test shuts it down. And that's what everybody's going to have to face move away will move the football. Peter King wrote for NBC Sports. If the Miami Dolphins Really Love Jonesboro if they say this guy's the greatest thing since sliced bread that they ought to make the following offer to Cincinnati. Which is this will give you. The we'll give you the number five pick this year and three additional first round picks if this happens might should Cincinnati. Should they listen to this? Well they're gonNA list now. Should they decide to take the deal and say yes depends on how much they like? Joe Borough Dea Love Them. Do you love them like nobody? You've ever drafted in the history of that franchise. You love him more than boomer. Esiason and Kenny Anderson. You guys who actually got that franchise Super Bowl. Do you love him more than that? And if you do if you have some institutional memory and you say you do then you can say okay because that way Tony. You could almost restock your team. I mean we remember how the Dallas Cowboys of the early nineties and Jimmy. Johnson got to be those Dallas cowboys. They took a deal instead. Okay Goodbye Herschel Walker. So how much do you love Joe Borough? And what do you think you can do with? All those draft picks reasonably. There's a lot of questions in the Cincinnati has to ask itself or we just taking Joe Borough from Ohio. Could we love to as much because we could get to it? Could we love the kid? Herbert from Washington as much great. Football teams built around great quarterbacks but hydro choice quarterbacks that fifty percent of the time they sort of flame out and if you've got a bunch of draft picks a bunch of number ones that helps you lot. Cincinnati also has esque itself. How much faith does it have in the? Gm doesn't want him to have all these number one picks or do you take Joe Borough and of course Miami has to say we really want it because it doesn't hurt Miami Miami's got I think. Four first round picks this year and next four second round picks this year nets that they be okay. He got let me ask. You put you on the spot would you? If you're running the single say slide me those picks I'm GonNa give you Joe Borough. Yes my answer is yes under one condition that. There's some other quarterback in the draft that I think is so close to Joe Barton. Otherwise I'm not. I'm not totally love with Joe Borough. I'll take another quarterback. He'll take Jimmy Johns to take Jordan. Who Will you take? I don't well. You're asking me what I would do. And I'm saying to you if there was another quarterback I'd like nearly as much then if I'm Cincinnati. I take the picks. Of course I do Tony. We're going to get to the NFL draft and guy's GonNa be in there addict just like you apparently making those pigs. John Haubert voiced his concerns about NFL TECHNOLOGY. Espionage at his pre-draft press conference. He's worried that teams conducting team meetings even draft. Prep meetings virtually from their attics. There is an increased danger. That information could be hacked and compromise totally. Is that a legitimate concern going into this draft with all the other things. Now you know me you know. I can barely text you know that I know nothing about technology but it seems to me that this is absolutely legitimate. This is why so many people hire people to protect their stuff. All the time I would. I'd be worrying about hacking. I don't know that I have to get Bob. Muller in here to do something about it but I wouldn't be worried but we've seen this in sports before. There was an executive for the Saint Louis Cardinals. Who did this to the Houston Astros? He was an for baseball for life Mike and he went to prison. He went to prison. If if I'm running football and I find out this happens. You're out you're out you. You cannot be stealing the intellectual property of the other teams. No you can't if you had somebody zoom during this Tony. Some of it just seems like this is a few a few cases. General managers couldn't get the draft delayed by whining and moaning about it about just having it right and the next thing is all wow. Don't let the dog eat my homework. I I can't do this. And so some of this some of this whining Tony about bandwith and the Wi fi and suppose the internet goes out. Justin I'M GONNA make my pick and I get the little little beach ball. Look there at the top of my screen. I can't progressing were well. I've got the answer. Tony I got an answer. You just won't believe pick up your damn phone and make your pick some of this winding Outta here. I've got grand on espionage and hacking but when it comes to the why am I gonNa Communicate Phone? Pick it up. That's how the draft used to be conducted anyway. No you're one hundred percent right about that. And people have their draft fords and if the guy in front of you picks the guy you wanted you got eight other is pick one of your other guys saying to you is is it. Is it a legitimate fear espionage legitimate and it seems to me yes. It's legitimate but wouldn't it be that all the time it would be that last year and the year before the year before next year in terms of your room and your files was confidential so it has nothing to do with dragged from your attic. Except everybody's on his own little island. I think you should make the draft pick ranting. Go ahead you've done very well in that. I think you should make the draft. Pick you from your attic. Geico gets you access to licensed agents twenty four seven which means that. Geico is always there for you if only everyone was always therefore you like your wife when you forget your keys at work and you get my texts. I am looking for the spare house key. Maybe I can get through the window. Mattress turns out the alarm works. Wow it works fast. You should probably call me back. Geico always there for you with savings and twenty four seven access to licensed agents again in my attic but not drafting. This year. We got to the happy. I put on glasses to reap happy sixtieth birthday buster Douglas. Douglas was twenty nine four and one when he went into the ring with Mike Tyson. Thirty years ago is a forty two to one underdog in Tokyo. He was supposed to be a tomato fan but the enduring image of that fight is Tyson crawling around the ring looking for his mouthpieces. Douglas knocked him out in the biggest upset and heavyweight championship history. But Douglas could not stand success in his next fight. Came in two hundred forty six pounds heaviest of his career. He went out on his bat. Knocked out in the third round. B of Vendor Holyfield we've been ringside at the Tyson fight. That fight made Douglas Rich and he did not fight for the next six years. Mike you know at one point nearly four hundred pounds Douglas. Slimmed-down made a combat. He won six straight thousands of before he could regain too stature can was knocked out in the first round by a man named Moose avaricious. Douglas has a career record of thirty eight. Six thousand one and he has everlasting fame. Tony now I know you call this the biggest upset in heavyweight history maybe in terms of the odds in. What's but I gotta believe that. Believe that young Tasha's claim beating sunny. Listen listen that's a bigger upset to both of us. I was a little kid. That's the first fight. I remember one of my earliest sporting memories with my father almost passing out on the Sofa in the den because Clay Not Ali. Clay beat list. Absolutely the shocker. That was amazing. Happy Anniversary Syracuse. On this day seventeen years ago the orange led by Freshman Carmelo Anthony Gerry McNamara. Who had six threes in the first half the Kansas for the national championship? To Give Jim. Boeheim is only NCAA title McNamara stayed in school and had one of the great runs in history of the Big East tournament three years later as a senior. Mcnamara's now an assistant coach for behind. Carmelo declared for the NBA draft and immediately became a star but the championship came so quickly in college. Alluded him all these years in the NBA. He has Olympic gold medals. He has fame and fortune. But we'll is it possible that this. Ncaa game is the high point of Carmelo. Anthony's Harir Tony. You know what I have never asked Carmelo that and obviously I would write down like it's possible it just like is it possible that the NCW. Championship Patrick Ewing wants as he didn't win in the NBA is the highlight of his craft. Onto Patrick fairly frequently I gotta ask him that too but man. Those are such highs in such a early point in life and then those guys did have great success. Patrick played on the Dream Team. So maybe not. Maybe they would both here. Carmelo say to us. I played in the pros. I got Olympic medal. Shut up you to omit. That's fair to say happy trails to just one team being on hard knocks Adam Schefter. Espn is reporting. That there are plans to supersize popular. Hbo Show Hard knocks. That films everything that happens inside training camp even the bad stuff. Which of course is what we want to see for the first time two teams will be on it. The Rams and the chargers who conveniently our neighbors at the brand new so-fi stadium in Los Angeles. This is all predicated obviously on the NFL. Having training camp it would likely serve as a showcase for the new stadium which the NFL has been waiting breathlessly for on a selfish level. I'm anxious to see. How many rams hate their new logo as much as Ram Bassett or Eric? Dickerson does. And how many charges look into the camera and say what happened to Philip Rivers. Where's Philip Rivers Tony? I covered football long enough to hate training camp. By the time I had covered a couple of seasons. I don't watch hard knocks. I've never seen not only an episode. I've never seen a second of hard. Not but I know you love it. So what do you think about this having two teams instead of one? I'm glad to have it. I think hard knots is a really good show. It gets you ready. You know everything that's going to happen. It builds drama very well. It's very well done and on that note we're going to out of here. Geico knows there many reasons why you ride from the Camaraderie of the other bikers. 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A Celebration of the Old Big East

Titus & Tate

1:37:28 hr | 3 months ago

A Celebration of the Old Big East

"Today's absorb titus and say we're celebrating the return of college basketball, college basketball's back tate. Nature is is healing. We have a ton of stuff going on in the world of college basketball. We've been doing some shows where we kind of dabble in other sports were Kinda just you know living our lives absorbing sports as they cut whatever whatever little bit of sports we can get Willna will consume it. We'll talk about it on the show. Today, we are doing a very heavy college basketball show, and here's why number one Amani Bates the number one recruiting the country. He's the number one he's. He's not a unlike Kate Cunningham who is also the number one India agreed. Who's also the number and we have three number one hundred hundred, whoever makes a huge announcement is the most important recruit at the time, therefore, the number one recruit in fact, foxsports put out the list of the one point zero recruits and I feel like we've had a lot more than. About! We've had a lot of as I said. My little video did for We have had like fifteen once in a generation players in this generation, but a Monte Bates the latest. He committed today to Michigan State. We're going to talk about that. It feels good to have a five star Guy Number one recruit appear on national television. Put the hat on. It's been a while since we've got to celebrate that. Also big moment and legal illegal. We'll say that would not necessarily play out on the court, but I don't know how many people are aware of this state on Wednesday it is official Yukon is back in the big east back. It is something that was announced previously. We've been waiting for the legal day. It is July I. July first hits. You is officially back in the big east order is being restored in college mask while. While today to celebrate the old big east coming back, tate are going to do a draft of our top ten old biggies moments. If you pay any attention to the show you, how much I love the biggest, trying to mock the sensibility of of the biggies just because we're idiots that like making jokes about everything, but we truly do love it just as much as everyone else loved it. And you, Kinda spectate, so we're GONNA celebrate that today, not a dime back, not die. We're doing, we're. GonNa, do a draft of encore awkward, little bit of both doesn't matter. If it had anything to do with the old big east, you could pick that moment in time. As one of your fixed, so we're going to go through and pick our top the TNT requiem for the biggest. That was thirty for thirty. This is our term. Meanwhile dickey thrown out tweets against. We'll way NOLA. I mean it is such a great day to be a college basketball fan. We're stuck in the middle of the pandemic. The tournament was cancelled. We have no idea when basketball's coming back for real college basketball. Certainly, it feels like there's not a lot of talk about an today. The Stars Align Tate College Basketball's back. I'm so excited. We're GONNA. Get into all of it, but I would he do. We have a ton to get to doing this. top-ten, old, Big East. That's going to take god-knows-how-long because there's so many moments to go through I, usually do the top five of this stuff, but. We were flushing this out there. It's so much the poll from from old big east zone. You Count Return back that We decided to make it a top ten thing, and it's GonNa take a while so but what will save that for later I. WE GOTTA. We gotta hit the news of the day. A Bates commits the Michigan state the number one recruit. He is of the twenty twenty two class. He just finished his sophomore. Year was named Gatorade National Player of the year as a sophomore or something i. don't think ever been done before. He is being tabbed as the best recruit since Lebron the best recruit It's the last recruit who was the best recruit since Lebron James the most famous Baid. Since Kathy is what they're saying about this. Everyone's very excited about him and Yeah, he's. He's at the level right now. Where this is where you want to be as a recruit, people haven't seen much about us. kind of seventh woods was in this territory as a software. You know you've seen the highlights you've seen. The plays were hyped about it the the main thing for you and I titus. Is this kid basically said the G. League money I don't need it. I never me, but what you know tradition I won't college basketball. I want the moment. I WANNA put my arm around Tom Izzo was extent on the sidelines, and he's yelling at me and I'm like come on coach. Come on, coaches announce sportscenter. You know what I mean everyone's kind of like. Who is this kid I guess I'm excited about this, so we got all those moments, which is great for college basketball and I kind of want to you know in interstellar they call it the Lazarus project and I think that's where we are in college basketball. You know what I mean a lot of people. They've told us that. We. Will never come back. You know never revive. the haters as we call them on this program. Haters out there tate. Money Bates is basically doing with Lazarus. Did He is coming back? He's bringing life back to college basketball, and for that we have to say we thank your money Bates. We won't discuss really that this commitment means nothing ultimately. Be Frank I've never seen him play, so there's calling. Him To savior listen I mean it's it's your well within your rights to be skeptical about the all the buildings all the marketing. Hype that they're thrown out there about the best guy since the Brian I. Don't blame you at this point. If you're skeptical, we've we've heard this. I've lost track. How many times the the the most egregious ever all this will always be the most egregious as I. Remember when Jabari Parker committed to. Duke, and everyone called with the best recruit since abroad, this is the biggest deal ever, and then Andrew Wiggins reclassifies commits to Kansas. Everyone went nuts and said this is a huge deal. Because this guy is the best recruits since Lebron and I said they're both in the same class. How is this possible? And no one really questioned it. They said it. Does this stop stop question just this is the best record since the brunt. Be that as it may, he might be. I'm with you. We don't really watch recruited. We don't. We don't follow this super close. We follow I followed names a little bit, and you kind of pay attention to twitter, but I'm not out here. Breaking down film of Euromoney Bates and trying to decide where he fought. WHA- composite score ranking is is a point nine, nine, nine nine, or is it one point zero where? Where do you fall I? Don't know, but if everyone's saying, he's the best since Lebron. We'll celebrate it. We're excited about it. It's great for college basketball as you said he I don't think this commitment necessarily means anything yet because he could still go the pro route when the time comes, he's still a couple of years away from actually having to make a decision. In that regard, but the fact that he's in. He's getting in front of cameras. He's preaching Loyalty Michigan. State is recruited him for years and years and years ever since he was in middle school, which was basically like last year. I guess. What he's preaching loyalty, and he he explicitly says the G. League route is not for him, so if nothing else, it's a small victory for us right now for us college basketball people, and if you ultimately breaks, our heart goes to Australia or something a couple of years. We'll deal with that later. It's okay it's okay. I think I think this is a smart move to. If you're these players like if you're a young guy that has notoriety. Notoriety of your Brawny James. Right Brownie already has I think he's averaging six point four points per game for his high school. He's coming off the bench, but he has offered from Kansas Kentucky Carolina and Duke Okay. That's a good spot to be in your own sportscenter. And you and this is your decision. You know this brownies decision two point. Oh, he goes out there and he says I'm GonNa go to do. Everyone gets excited, but then if. If coach is not there in two or three years whenever he's GonNa get there. He's like you know what I'm going to Australia and I'm going to go to the G. League whatever it may be, but the duke fans already loyalty because for the rest of your career. They can say what if like, with Jr Smith for me I'm like what if the going to North Carolina in my mind he did. That's a great point because going to. To College, one of the inherent advantages of going to college, even though you obviously don't make money or wink, wink, maybe you do under the table whatever loyalty you get, yes, you have a built in fanbase. If you'RE A guy who goes to Kentucky Those Kentucky fans are GonNa love you for the rest of your career. You put out a new sneaker all the Kentucky fans. You're going to want it. They're going to buy your Jersey to. A built in base. Maybe this is bates way of having his cake. Eating to time comes. The NBA see gets torn up because they don't finish this year and all that the legal mess happens. The CPA gets torn up. Rewrite at. They allow guys to come out of high school that when a Mani Bates time comes, he just go straight to the league along the way, maybe that maybe they start landing other recruits, because all these guys commit to Michigan stakes, they WANNA, play with money bates, so all the Michigan State fans love him, and he still gets to go to the League early, and then you know when whenever he releases A. A SHOE OR JERSEY? Whatever he's GonNa always have Michigan's defense. It's genius it's. It's well played on his part. It's will play because it's Zag as well. You know everyone right now. It. The cool thing to do is go to the G. League or go to Australia. Go to Lithuania or whatever it may be, but to be able to do something traditional like go to Michigan State, just like Magic Johnson, and it'd be viewed as a Zach in favorable way. That's official. He's a Michigan kid I loved the I. Always Love that. We talked about it when Zayn Williamson broke CLEMSON's heart. We talked about it frequently with these recruiting these big recruits anytime. A guy goes to the in state school I love it. It's very exciting just when John Wall Windy Kentucky that broke. NC states heart. You know what I mean. These are moments. Just the fact that the big ten is landing like a what one of the generational talents of this. One of the of the generation guys the big ten find the land and update. This is something. The big ten storage does not. Do you have to go back to basically Greg Oden and two thousand six last time, the big ten got someone who like all of college basketball like you know like the the the the guy could name his greg in two. Two thousand six could have said I want to go to. The school didn't have any scholarships that already had five centers. The coach would have been like sure. We're GONNA. Kick off day. Make Room for you mob. The same is true with the money base. He's that good. Apparently, that's what people are saying and the big ticket. We have not watched play. Traditionally, does not get these guys stay in so getting getting. One of these guys is great for the League. That's my final before we get onto the the best part of today, which is a draft of the old big East I have to point out the Tom Izzo giving me Bano vibes. In the sense that you know, he always wants to be first and I saw you know he's the coach of the decade right? We're all okay, of course. I'm the coach of the gate. You get it. You got it. And then there was this graphic that CBS fox put out there like it was nine five star recruits had gone to Indiana nine had gone to Ohio state again. You Know Tom Izzo not number one in that list very Bano of him, he says I need to be number one on that list I will not be number two. And right now he's getting a five star guy and you know. We saw Jaren Jackson. We saw mouse bridges. He's adding these guys to the resume to say. He was not only the best coach, but the best recruiter in the end because he refuses to be number one. and. I think a lot of respect that, but I'm just pointed out. It's very Bano, but is the best national champion. Win Her. Time will tell we need to tell you. The National Championship. Enough about that excited is generally excited that guy. He the the commitment that doesn't necessarily mean anything like because it's a verbal commitment. You could change his mind like we said but at the same time he didn't need to do it. So that means something to me. The like Monty base could have easily just been just kept. Saying I'M NOT GONNA. Say anything until the you know could have kept kicking. The can down the road until it's time to make a decision, but he comes out, and he's like no I want to play college basketball to hell with the G. League. That's cool, even if it's only temporary. 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Let's Winston with a one and done those those four years. Yeah, he. Wanted to stay for four Josh Langford the one and done. That'll be there for seven years when he gets all the injury Richard. As All right well enough about money Bates Let's get to what we're really excited about today. You, which is Yukon back in the Big East? If you're listening to this on, Tuesday hasn't happened yet. There's still time go by the champagne pop. The Bottles Wednesdays. The big dating life hits Yukon is back one of the founding members of the Big East I believe there were seven eight, and we will be Kinda Providence Providence A. Problem Day John's Seton Hall Boston College Georgetown. UCONN Syracuse for yes seven, those are the seven Yukon was one of them in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, nine, a great year for Nineteen seventy-nine Everyone remembers twenty thirteen happens. Everyone decides football like they. They look at the books. They're like Oh my God. Football makes significant amount of money. We didn't realize this until Monday. Thirteen conference realignment starts happening musical chairs. Not a dime back known at the time before you know it, you stuck. Sit there scratching their ass. They get stuck in the American with a with with south, Florida. Esab you all them Ned. It very started because Yukon invented the biggies they held. They were one of the founding members, and finally at long last order has been restored. They are coming back. Do you have any thoughts you want to share before we get into this? Just have to say this. When when I think about the big east. All I think about is rivalries that are mythology right there. Just the ultimate things that we all remember watching. You know maybe not all of us, but you know I remember stuff from the eighties and I wasn't even alive yet. And it's almost like a Johnny appleseed type thing. These stories have been passed on from parents to kids to coaches to whoever may be in life, and everyone knows the characters we know the Calhoun we know the behind when we know the Mass Amino is we know these people we know these coaches, and we know their stories, and they all hated each other. Oh, allegedly apparently, and it was just vicious in the words of Jim Calhoun. My first ten years in the big east were magical. Then we got civilized and ruined everything. That's what he was the Jim Calhoun quote we you and I like to ham it up when we talk about the old big east because that's what we do. Out in the same vein as those who have been. All second. But we generally do love it. I I was doing some research for all this and I came across this state. Buckle up for this one. Are you aware that that for let me throw it a before? I get to the thing I was going to say I'll throw this at you. So the big. The first season of the Big East nineteen, seventy nine eighty season you. So from nineteen eighty to nineteen ninety, that's eleven years of the first eleven years of the biggies, every single one of the founding members, all seven of made at least one elite eight. Five of those seven made final four state. Do, you understand how ridiculous that is that you basically conjure up a conference, thin air, and then everyone every single team in the conference goes on a run, and then the one of the teams that didn't make a final four is you can? You didn't really do anything till the ninety S. And then you won four national title since it's incredible when you look back on it, the run at the biggies had but the one thing I wanted to the the the big. The entree of of this little ran up going on that I wanted to throw at us this in my research, I covered this in the nineteen, eighty, six eighty seven season. These were the coaches in the Big East conference. They were all there at the exact same time. You have John. Thompson at Georgetown Jim Behind at Syracuse Jim Calhoun at uconn. Rick Pitino at Providence Lou Carnesecca Saint John's Rally Mass Amino at Villanova. It was Jim O'Brien first year at Boston College Jim, O'Brien, who then. Then goes on to Ohio state. He had taken over Gary Williams Gary Williams. was there the year before, but now Jim O'Brien their silicate coaching zone right Seton Hall had PJ Carlesimo and then Pete had Paul Evans Zoo not a Lotta people remember, but he was kind of out of his mind as well and an assistant coach Paul. Staff pit in the nine, hundred, eighty, six, eighty seven season was John Calipari all of those coaches were in the big east at that time at one season during one season they were all there enduring that season a young Rick Pitino was going to anoint himself as the hot new young coast. I decided that three point line was perfect. Team to the final four and. It's. The the the big east was perfectly timed. It was perfectly perfectly suited for the time of Magic Johnson Bird playing seventy nine in that title Game College. Basketball is forty million people. Watching people were going crazy. They're like what is this college? Basketball is amazing, and then we got the doctors of Dunk. You know and everyone's like the slam dunk is back. Back now love the slammed up. We used to hate it when Kareem did it, but now we love it. It's weird how that works. Twelve years later, The biggest was right there for the prime rib at all, and they were in the middle of all of it, and they had underdogs like Mass Minoan. Villanova they had stalwarts like Ewing Georgetown. It was just like the perfect story are. Forget the timeframe but I I wanna say it was in with within like a twelve month window. Maybe we'll say eighteen months to be safe. the nineteen seventy-nine title game happens as you said Berg burgers magic of most famous title game. We've ever had college basketball. Most watched like it's it's. It's like a seminal moment. College basketball million households, forty million people that sticks in my head, because it's so ridiculous as for forty million people watching. But within an eighteen month we have that title game the creation of the biggies and the start of ESPN in the northeast in Connecticut. Right by Yukons camp like all of all of those the hiring of coach, Dick Vitelle was hired in eighty right when it started. I mean that's. The basketball. All of those stars allied. Not that, not that like the big east was lucky I. It's not like you know I. I still think at the big started nineteen eighty-six, and would have been awesome as well, but just you look back on it. That is amazing when when you think back on the big east as a whole, it does feel sorta. It has like a Saturday night. Live to where like if you were a college basketball, coach, or player or any you? You existed in the nineteen eighties. Slash nineties, and you don't have some sort of tied of the Big East like if you like a graduate assistant at one of these schools at one point like you didn't play like it feels like you're Kinda aren't as important. Because it feels like literally. Everybody had some sort of connection to the big east. It's not true, but that's what you're thinking like John Callard periods assistant I I mean I don't know how many people remember that. You're like Oh. My God everybody seems to billy. Donovan played at Providence like just all the cross pollination everyone seems to dip their toes in the big east as some point in time whether you're there for long run behind and Calhoun and John Thompson or whether it was just like a one or two year thing like Patino was only there for two years at Providence, but he was there. He got his dampers approval and he got. Got Out it's amazing, and it's like the old like bashing of New York basketball to right. It's like this little inner circle of Philadelphia's like Old East Coast basketball, and that's why it's so perfect. That is the old big east, because it's like all these guys and Philadelphia New Jersey and New York finding these talented kids, and then being able to the system, and like you said it was like a small little fraternity coaches that are all very familiar with each other. That are all competing with each other, all advancing the game within the talent pool that they're pulling from is unlike we've ever seen in God. If you really look at it Mitch and the guys that fell through the cracks that were so talented and you know you mentioned being the next great one. There was a myriad of those in the eighties. The diamonds in the rough and The big east is full of those guys I. Mean We? We're GONNA talk about a lot of you want to get into allocated to. Let's start drafting I'm right, so we're GONNA draft. How do we want to decide who goes first because this is going to? To be contentious draft in the sense that there are a lot of great moments at the top and I. Think we're going to be fighting each other for who gets to claim them. My idea because I actually don't know this off the top of my head, and if you don't either I said, we're doing this way are doing. How many national championships did biggies claim from nine hundred, seventy, nine to twenty, thirteen, the original biggies. We're not talking about the new Villanova The two that they won, they don't count for our purposes here. How many national changes do you want to say our number at the exact same time? Work through it and figure out who's closest. Let's do it perfect all right we are. We GonNa Kill Ya. One two, three, five six. Okay, all right. Let's figure this out all right all right. That's worse so. The first season that's bill? Dot Com donkey. It doesn't count because they were in the metro. Right Yep. Eighty. One is Ronald Reagan his shot Indiana's Forces Carolina to play in that Game Bob Knight. Eighty one. To Eighty C. Eighty three. Eighty four Georgetown rate against yes, nineteen, eighty four. That's one eighty five is Villanova Big Georgetown Yup. eighty-six is Louisville. Eighty seven is. Indiana is Larry Brown. Eighty nine is Michigan beat Seton Hall on their yeah. Yeah nineties unlv Yup ninety-one is Duke and coach Jane Ninety Two Duke and Coach K. and ninety three is of course, woody Durham's great call up. North Carolina Tar Heels Ninety Four Arkansas beats do can Charlotte Right Yup Yup Yup Ninety. Five is Ucla Yes howdy Sixes Kentucky Ninety Seven's Arizona messed up when we get to ninety five I wanted to say godfried and. Ninety five godfried all right now. Ninety eight is as Kentucky where up to ninety nine Yukon counts I one. Two thousand is big tins last title Michigan, State Two thousand, and one is coach. K., Jay Williams, Duke. Two Thousand and two is technically the last big ten title Maryland. Do. Three or Four mellow. We're going to win. We're already at four for the. No four is big east yet, your. Mecca for. Try To stop right here in apologize to the big east for seeing five. I can't idiot now that I'm seeing tallow, it's. Only the reason I said more than five. Because the Yukon and Yukon sneaks up on. It felt like you can't. Do Three but it felt to me like I guess I was thinking the Big East was a situation where. The big, the big easy honest. You Got Georgetown you forgot your. Four. That's what it was. 'CAUSE piggies. You not remember the Patrick. Title, you wouldn't really. Back to back, they remember have losing eighty, five, eighty two. They don't remember when at eighty four I think. In, my mind, the Big East is so big that like it feels like a conference where like? Swallows up the NCAA tournament aware like I I was thinking like not that many win, but people like biggies. Fans don't care because they would rather with the big east tournament. That's more important anyway like that kind of thing course. I'm an idiot, so we're. We're five is where no phone on North Carolina. Seven is Florida. Is Kansas, which we can say, Donna could be ripple effect biggies because he goes to the final four seven. Yes, so that could be. That could be counted. Oh Eight is bill self and Kansas? Big Twelve Oh nine Carolina ten is Duke Eleven Yukon. That's eleven there. We go twelve twelve Kentucky. And then thirteen is Louisville with an asterisk. That's a genuine asterisk. But it doesn't matter because you already want so one two, three, four seven, though ribbon. If you take away Louisville's in two thousand thirteen and we do. You were right on the money. Either way you to go first you win, you said six. That was nice. People enjoyed that reading, but will compete page, so we decided. To explain why look we had to break it down ourselves. I also explained that the draft process. This would be my number one. Pick right the way that we're doing this. This would be like I. WanNa take. This pig is my top pick. that I want to get on my team right? Is that how we're doing this yet? We're GONNA. Let's alternate first of all. You're picking to reiterate what we're doing is any moment from nineteen seventy nine to twenty thirteen? Thirteen involving big big basketball it. You're just picking them out. You're picking the moment in time to memory. The whatever you get the whole thing you can, it can be on court off court, and it could be a legend. It could be a story that like is actually true, but like you heard it was doesn't matter. We can run the whole game, but we have this. This is the what most wide open draft we've ever done on the show number one pick. A Lou Carnesecca sweater game in Madison, Square Garden February Twenty Seventh Nineteen eighty-five number one St John's. Number to Georgetown Big John. Thompson shows up to MSG. He lost a saint. John's earlier in the year they had won thirteen straight games of at that point in time. Everyone saying. Oh, my Gosh! This Saint John's team. They're amazing. These guys are incredible. They're going to win the title. And so it was all about the luck of the sweaters, ugly sweater that Carnesecca that was wearing all the, and what is big John do big. John goes in buys that same sweater, my titus he walks in to the crowd. He flashes the lucky sweater to say the luck is over. The brakes off of Saint. John's in this game and then in the Big East Championship game in the Tournament Championship game. They beat Saint. John's again Georgetown and big John and then they're like. A. You know let's just. Keep this thing rolling then. They beat him in the tournament. Edifying so yeah, in the final four so here we are Georgetown. has beaten Saint John's team the saint. John's lost four games that entire year three of those losses come the Georgetown and big John, and it's all because he flipped the sweater on Saint John's and I decided to say that is by her disagree. That is a great number. One pick it summarizes the big east in a nutshell in that it was number one versus number two for the first all we have the great basketball number two. It's in Madison Square Garden Number Three. It's legendary coaches at number four. It's extreme patio office. It's psychological warfare that that is is validated. That's Taylor is like all these mind games work. Just like the the cycle continues because it makes the coaches want to do more of an and that's. That's the story. The Big East right. There summed up in one game, and it's one incident one flash out snapshot in this game, and it's basically. He's flashing with the Blazer. The sweater and Carnesecca is in the background and he's like looking as if you just bigfoot. You know what I mean. He looks terrified. And of course they were innocent the rest of the year. and. This is Chris Mullin Patrick. Ewing I mean this is. This is great basketball mark. Jackson all the all these guys that we know from the NBA legends. I mean they're playing this game as well they go the Lou Carnesecca sweater game. That's a great pick up my number. One has a similar feel to it of like just trying to capture everything and one since one moment in one essence mine is the night in one thousand, nine hundred of the very first year, the big east with Georgetown beat Syracuse in. Manley Field House. The final game played mainly field. Syracuse is number two in the country. They have fifty seven game home win streak Georgetown wins. Wins, they come. They come back from down. Fifteen second half and John Thompson says Manley field. House is officially closed, and this is the first year of the of a new conference when I think of the biggies obviously the Big East conference coach. This is something that the Bob Knight first of all I want. I want to preface this I. Read I read Jim Himes. Autobiography preparation for doing the show. I went through Jim. Bejon auto biography on the best college basketball autobiographies out there is behind just. Rips it from the hit. He doesn't care. I. Goes in extensively on all the old big east years, and all that kind of he told his story about one time Jim Calhoun got off the northwestern job considering leaving you with Western. Bob Knight's whole Calhoun. You don't WanNa do that. The big ten is a League of institutions and the biggest is a League of coaches that was the quote, and he's so right, and so I think of the Big East I think of the legendary. Legendary coaches, the larger life coaches, and when I think of the legendary coaches, the I do that come to mind are John Thompson and Jim Boeheim Ned this game in nineteen eighty set the stage for the entire. Syracuse Georgetown rivalry that Syracuse the very first year of the biggies. Georgetown pulls off the upset. It's not enough that they snapped the streak. It's not enough that they beat Syracuse in the very last game ever played Manley Field House. John Thompson GETS INTO THE POST GAME press conference. Twist the knife since Manley Field House is officially closed drops the Mike Walks off, and it starts. The rivalry starts. It sets the tone for what the biggies becomes for the rest of the time. That's number one on my list. That's a great number one and that's a great quote about the coach. Because if you really look at it, you know. What is Georgetown without big John You know what? What his Connecticut Without Calhoun. WHAT WILL SYRACUSE BE WITHOUT Bay Heim Right? It's not the same and like all. This stuff was so petty, but it was so personalized, and we knew like we knew who these coaches were. It felt like they were they. Are The stars the pro game? The players of the stars and in College, the coaches, the stars. That's why you know when we go to the classic and coach K. Coach Cal Perry. Guys are like those are. The Fed heads that we. All right and that is why I think the big east kind of set that tone right. I mean that was who we were there for we were there the big John you know with the towel kind of trying to be intimidating, we're. We were there to see Jim Boeheim. You lose his mind unofficial and say some things that were probably to profane for TV at the time. and. That's what it was about. It was a great time, and that's a great number. One pick I'm hype on. Your number to go ahead all right here. We go the battle the Allens. And this is in the year. Nineteen ninety-six Big Tournament Championship this is Ray Allen. Zone Iverson this is why it's called. The battle downs, and with fourteen seconds left at this game a game winning shot Rayon hits shot seventy, five seventy four victory for Yukon. For me, these are two players that I think I don't know the transition basketball into the modern times in the twentieth century. US, shuttles, whereas one of my favorite characters time ray out has one of the you know, if not the pretty shot of all time, he was my favorite jump shooter. You and I are both shooters that we respect the jump shot. Shot and then right after you know Yukon has repayment. There was just so much about this is the first Yukon and I was like all? This is just put you count on the bat for me. They went to the Nineteen Ninety Day, but that was ninety six was the time that I kind of was like. Oh well, I enjoy watching this team I like reality. You forgot the part where Alan Iverson Mrs on the other end. Yeah, he had a shot at the other end. Mrs My question to you is. Is this a microcosm of their MBA legacy state that Allen Iverson as great as he was? Never win a ring. He couldn't wintering tatum. Was Clutch is this. Was this the start of that? Those narratives of of Allen Iverson? As he can't. He can't win. The big one in reality can it does show that that basketball such a mental game I? Mean I know you're tugging to me, but it is such a mental game. Where like you know Jordan his shot in eighty two. What happens if he doesn't you know what I mean? Ray on his his shot in this game. When everyone's got the eyeballs to say, who's the next star of you know basketball is that this guy was that guy? And then he hits the big shot and it's like I'm that guy you know. We were talking about Michael Beasley less. It was like I'm I'm you have to have that? Mentality I think Allen obviously had that. That himself and like you didn't need anything else. But if you know that you've been in that moment, you hit that shot. It does make things a lot easier when you're back in that moment where you really do want the ball and I think yeah, I mean that's that's sort of sets the tone. That's a good pick. UCONN has seven biggies. Tournament titles it. They are tied for the most all time with Georgetown, and you hasn't even been in the Big East in the last seven years, and they're still number one and that was the first one they won nineteen ninety-six. When reality at the shot so a great pick from you on that one, my number two. There's going to be a theme. If if you're paying close attention, you're going to learn today about my love. Of Thompson my number two is the time John. Thompson stuck his finger. The face of rifle Edmund who was a drug lord in Washington DC, in the nineteen eighties, the eighties and nineties during the all the drug problems going on in DC all basically. Basically Raeffel Edmund is becoming friendly with Alonzo Mourning. Some of the other Georgetown players John Thompson says this isn't going to happen on. My Watch calls Edmund was like a big Georgetown Fan calls him into his office. Says stop talking to my players. Edmund says this is this is this is how the story goes. I should premise like whether it's the. Big East. This is all. The story goes, he says stop talking about players Edmund says we're not doing. They're not doing anything illegal. You don't have anything to worry about. John tops loses. Shit starts custom mouses, adult care ever do anything illegal points That's how the story goes. He takes his index finger points at between his eyes, and said you will stay away from my players. Edmund basically puts his tail between his legs lease. The office never associated himself with Georgetown players again John. Thompson faces no consequences. He's the only guy apparently the ever like stood up to this guy and and. Face no consequences and I love that story so much because it just it just speaks to like how much of a g topsoil was basically like the guy just like with was larger than live literally use massive massive man, but. Just did not give a shit loved his player so much in. They're just story after story of him. Dislike like this is something that i. wish was still a thing in college basketball. These coaches that are are just like. I don't know just like Integral Mavericks Yeah I mean they. They just didn't tag a distant, but tagging just for good reasons, it feels like the guys are tag. District are kind of selfish. I want a guy like that. That's just like I don't know I. If that happened today, it would be hard for me to be recruited. Not Be like I would have played for that cab because that's. That's unbelievable, unbelievable sir. Yeah, there used to be a those coaches back in the day just felt like. I mean I guess. We saw with by Bob Huggins. The was the last time I saw someone go full out. Where I was like Oh. Man Like this guy loves his players. And that was at the time with big John and would like Dean Smith and even like Bob didn't know Bob gets crucified, or whatever, but the time you would go to war if he said anything about his player. You know what I mean. I mean Bob Knight massages? His players next practice coach doing that. All right. I feel like there's a pretty good top Ford. We're this is fantastic. We're going through the big use and for the old big east lovers. This isn't good enough. Sending your old biggies moments and we'll talk about it because we're happy. The big is back for me. The next one I have my. My next traffic is the Patrick Ewing. Chris Mullin rivalry is what I would like to call it. An Abbot quote from Chris Mullin is was in the book from Redmond to red. Storm which I you know I don't know if that book is about the name change or what? We just hated Georgetown. I don't think. I spoke a word to Patrick. Ewing and four years Mellon said and if I did, I couldn't say what they were and I think. That is those those guys were at five for basketball camp together nineteen eighty. They were pitted against each other. The one you know people in New York. Obviously you know the they were battling over. Who is going to be the best? The ewings from Boston right originally from Cambridge Cambridge, as yeah, exactly so that's the like New York Boston argument about who who's GonNa. Be The best prospect, and then there's the rivalry itself is between Saint John's. Georgetown obviously was very large. Those guys were the central figures ever made that connection that the Boston New York rivalry between the two, and that's great, and they were. They were cam together like they. Being scouted against each other, and then you have to also throw in the fact that this isn't a time when there's black and white. That's going on college basketball. Some teams didn't want to have black players on their teams. At the dunk was coming back in all sorts of things, more athletes were coming to the Michael Jordan's Lynn bias. These guys are filtering into the game and Patrick Ewing. was kind of you know pegged as this guy who was supposed to deliver these titles like you and I talked about sometimes it gets remembered as it would not as great as he really was. Chris Mullin and begging live in this vacuum in these Saint John's Georgetown. Games which I think was totally separate of the national conversation right okay did and they definitely had such a hatred for each other, but it feels like with the Dream Team and everything that happens after they're like great friends, but during the. Legitimately hating each other, which is great. No that's that's that's a great pick. They both went onto coach modest. Wow, that's interesting, interested enough, and then they have to pretend like they were best friends along i. Remember what used to hate. Each other in basketball was fun. Young. The two of them. Basically they were the I. Mean if you go back in light read stories, and and here all the people that were alive during the time they'll tell you that those two guys like made the biggest what it is like they. Dave Gavitt had a great idea. All the coaches were on board and we said we already. We already talked about like how important the? outsized personality of the coach was the big east taken off in the relationship with ESPN and all that, but it. All of that is just the framework. You still need players. If if if you're not one of games and you don't have talent on the floor. Ultimately, people are going to stop watching in for Patrick, Ewing and Chris Mullin at the same time. To stay home, basically I know Patrick Yours for Boston at the DC, but he stayed in like the general area that he's from a didn't go to UCLA or Kentucky or anything for them to stay home and just ballot. The biggies that that early on was amazing and ultimately. We got the conference underway a great pick. My number. Three pick is the two thousand eleven kimball walker run I can't believe it lasted this long. averaged twenty four point six point six point two rebounds, five point zero assists per game over the course of eleven games state, greatest postseason run individually in the history of college basketball, once five games and five. I'm talking like Kimba. Did it himself because he kinda did? Did. I was GONNA say basketball is a team sport until Kimball Walker carried a team to a title. Then I might be individual now if Jeremy Labs. Like will forever be fighting to remind people that he was on that team. Good and he played. It was Oreo Cookie Jeremy Lamb. And but Kimba goes absolutely. He averaged thirty eight minutes a game during those eleven games. That's the other part that's insane. It was like he was. He was doing absolutely everything you count as unranked to start that season they finished ninth in the Big East regular season, but they were also like ninth in the final eight people. If I remember correctly there a nine seed in the in the big east, but they win five games in five days. Even Tournament, is it? They had a lot of close calls. Arizona had a shot to beat him at the Buzzer Djamil Horns three miss. Kentucky shot to beat him in the final four. DEANDRE! Liggins had had a three kind of. Thing it was He missed, too so they had the right combination of lock. Of Indiana Drill Lincoln's taking bigshots. Rushing three days when you could have maybe worked the ball, a little bit more I. It's a run that those of us that were alive and witnessed. It will remember the rest of our lives. The two thousand eleven Kemba Walker run. That is that is like the Seminole Lake, yeah I mean we still talk about every time? I say tournament rolls around. We talked about our Kim again. Who are the guys that are going to do them and every single year? None of those guys come anywhere close, and then people get mad at us that like, why would you? Why would you suggest that? You know some guy. Could I'm trying to think of an example could do that were like well I mean you have to understand like the Kimba? The Kimball blueprint is is the closest guy. Was Carson Edwards He was the closest we've seen, but even that I mean the anyways to the elite eight, and that was the whole. The reason Kimba is cardiac. Kimba he's the Guy De. We heard of the cardiac packing, eight, nine, hundred three, and they just get hot from the tournament. They make it run. They win the into Aa Tournament and that's exactly what you did, but it wasn't just because Sidney Lowe was you know out of his mind if because they were playing well as a team. And a great draw and they made a nice run like Kimball. Walker quite literally said I'm the best. Point Guard basketball. Yes, basketball may be watered down, but I'm going to hit the big shots and he wanted to hit the big shots, and it was almost watching like watching an NBA Point Guard play college, Basketball Tournament and it was like Oh. Wow, this one guy can really isolate an score whenever he needs to. And then Oh, there's Jamie Lambo there just in case like tell team or something. To hit a mid range jumper to keep them honest, you know, and and somehow that was good enough that year I mean. Calhoun to me. About him as a coach to be able to work it out also the ugliest incident, the ugliest title game we've ever seen have that year and still people fondly. Look back on that run. You know like you would think that. The team that won that title. They would put a big Astra's next to it'd be like I. Mean Come on, you can't win a title shooting whatever presented what was like twenty something? Percent from the field won the title against mother horrible horrible game, but it doesn't matter though the run itself that eleven game run with so good that it overshadows the stinker that they they capped it off with. It was funny like it was kind of a rock and a hard place in the title game where it was like. There's no way that bowl is GonNa win the National Championship. There was just no way that was going to happen. We're going to win the game. You know you're going to win the game, but they did everything they could not to win the game. It was just unbelievable throughout the entire. They go little run here, brick spiracy twenty years later or ten years later. Almost I mean Brad Stevens purposely through that game because he told himself I can't. We can't win this I. CAN'T I can't be a bank show Gordon. Hayward shot away from winning a national title, and that team doesn't win, and then my team with Matt Howard is my best player doesn't win, and we're like what CIBA's other your data. because. They played pit in the second round. That was the that was remember the game like pit blue. This might be on your list I don't know. This council is a big moment. Matt Howard Ninety four feet from the basket with less left. The free throws fit I thought that was a one eight game. That was a winning. I think it. Was An eight. See that your. Bread, Steve, I think breasts even like we can't win the national title this. I think he said himself that would be the death of college basketball you can. Come home to college basketball. Before pick. My number four pick nineteen, ninety seven the providence friars led by Pete Gillen, a guy by the name of God shammgod that a Lotta people know and dared. Brown who really was the hero of this game twelve for sixteen from the field thirty three points. They beat the Duke Blue. Devils and this is one of those times in my life where I Pete Gillen ended up going to Virginia. I Love Begin. He's a great New York coach, and he's quite a character, and he used to have some great one liners about going to cameron indoor that I grew up loving and Gosh Jim God is my favorite name ever. In basketball, or maybe just literally ever, and I remember Pete had a great quote. Theories like if you can't win with God. You're not a really good coach and. As someone who grew up thinking that coach k. was the devil himself. Have God, beat the devil as a five year old that a lot of things for me as a five year old when it comes to good and evil, what round is? This isn't a sweet sixteen, Ninety seven hundred sixteen providence be Duke. That's a good pick I don't remember anything about it, but no, no, no, it was career versus devil. God versus the devil for me, and God. There was the first time that like I'd seen good happen. You know like Oh that makes. God would beat the devil. endeared Brown really was the the hero the game he'd like thirty five point thirty three point. But. God God. That's all I. Remember for me. That was a big east great moment all right very good pick. person is that's all right My number four pick is the nine hundred eighty five title game, the biggest upset in NCAA tournament title Game History I. Don't know if that's actually true by Vegas. Standards It's true. The sense that Villanova had to play the perfect game to beat Georgetown they did is shot seventy eight point six percent from the field date. Defending national champion Georgetown Hoyas the number one Patrick Ewing senior year. Everything was lining up for Georgetown to win this in the eighth-seeded villain of wildcats when their first national championship in Nineteen eighty-five biggies versus biggies says we talked about earlier. Saint John's also in the final four that year George Sound beat St John's in the final four to even get there. So nineteen eighty-five was kind of a big year for the biggest in that regard that was saint, John's Georgetown both Rin there. They were both to the best teams in the country, and then on top of that the team, the third biggest that was in the final four ends up winning the whole damn thing so I think you come out of the nineteen eighty five season as the big east, and everyone's got their chest out like we are the best conference college basketball. There's no ifs, ands or buts about it, and that was the first year that the NBA. NBA introduced the lottery that was which is a similar year in basketball, too, and then as sixty four teams in the tournament for the first time and eighty four teams in the I. Say Yeah, exactly, and then so that is sort of like the blueprint of what we see today. In the start of it was all big east. There was all old big east so when people think about that their mind, they think of those guys being in those moments in his funny. On on my list, all I had was nineteen, eighty five final four so I think. Covers I don't think you can take that anymore? Yeah? Feel good about that Glad we got that one covered for me. We're GONNA. Keep this thing rolling this band. This is GonNa, be. This personal to you hundred ninety nine. No I mean it's obviously going to be personal where you're going with this, but I had that coming up as one of my big board, so. I'm glad I'm talking about God. Shame got picked with personal. This one is for the old big east, and it's because this was Yukon's first national title Game Right. They the National Championship. They're playing. Duke seen that everyone billy packer included throughout the entire broadcast wanted to remind everyone was going to win the National Championship. Elton brand they had Shane Baddie a they had William Avery. They had Trajan Langdon. His senior year Trades Elaine didn't in that game was five percent from three was shooting out of his mind that twenty five points in that game, but I'm going to get to the better part of that for the old big east here in a second, but regardless they come into this game that they are the underdogs. Everyone's looking at them as You know basically wash out of the. The way coach canes getting. Another title coach had had this God shammgod period in nineteen ninety-seven where he was saying that he didn't know if he was ever GonNa. Get Back to a national championship game after the back issues and ninety five, and they loses the God and now it's nineteen ninety nine like I. Don't know if I'll ever get back. He called Trajan Langdon the bridge. must what was nicknamed the bridge, and that's the bridge writer when they're he's. He's. He's bringing their the new anyways. This is all happening at the time with Duke Basketball Yukon on the other hand. Ella, mean elamine. WHO's One of my favorite point guards that I had forgotten about until I watched this game. My Wife's final like five minutes of this game, and he hits a nice little floater down there and then they get the lead. Intriguing lending comes down, and it's ricky more, and I, forgot about this play, but in. In the moment it was one of my favorite plays. Basketball history because defense wins championships, otherwise little kid. That's what you believe in, so tell us at the end of this right, so it's Trajan. Lane is moment the bridges coach k. labeled him, and he's going down for the final place. Seventy, seven, seventy four elamine made the free throws. The crowd is route up. Trajan Langdon. He five percent from three in this game already, everyone's expected to take three instead he trips. A little poetic when you think about the Grayson Allen, that would come later in life he rips. He trips and falls down elemen- goes to the camera in he goes. We shocked the world which is. My favorite Monica did say out to the world and favorite phrase be shocked. The world crowd's going crazy Calhoun is losing his mind, and and it's one of those moments where this is how you know. Your coach is kind of an asshole out of players coach, the the only people that are hugging him or the other coaches. You know what I mean. The other players are like earl together like doing their thing, but he's like having this great moment coach to his credit. has this really sweet moment? William Avery where he is, his eyes are wide open, and he's patting him on the back, but he you know Wilson, crying and all sorts of. Jim Nance gives the the best quote because his Calhoun I F Jim ship first. Yukon national change of appearance. He goes folks. You gotta believe because just when people say you can't. You can and UCONN has won. It's National Championship National Championship on its first attempt. This was this. This was Nance oh. No folks you gotTa believe could just when people say you, can't you can't and you con- and it was. It was a it was like of a bygone era of sports journalism and he definitely waited out to have that. Moment in time and cut away, and it's Ray Allen Hugging Jim Calhoun in the middle of center court is just like man. This is good TV. We need to do a power rankings at the JIM NANCE puns. Divided. What was the? What was it? Oh, five, when he said something like Carolina's the dean of the ball exactly A. New, digital. Dean in College basketball. Coach Jim. So, what are we doing here? I don't understand Oh. Yeah, that's That's fantastic. I love the shock the world anytime anytime layer. Really anybody uses the phrase shocked. The World Pertains Sports. It's it's it's a very. I don't know it's hilarious like the idea that like people in Turkey and Argentina and Kenya. We're watching this nineteen ninety nine games and they're shocked. They're like they're buddies. Kenya, call each other like you see in this. I cannot believe. This is unbelievable. Ricky, Moore's feat there slightness fee like a real legend. The European Union having meetings interrupted their like we. We got to stop talking about this. We got A. We got a breakdown on ninety nine title game. This is unbelievable. What's happening over in America? Yes, so that Duke Team and ninety nine enters the game thirty seven and one their only loss on the year. They lose to Kenyon. Martin Cincinnati in the Great Alaska shootout which I think they were playing only because Trajan Langdon. Just for a home game. Yeah, for trade senior. Year coach K. Coach K. is furious because he goes and plays that one game they lose puts Kenyon Martin on the map though. And he goes to the title game and Trade Lane and tries to make it all meself. Make the game winning blades. I went to Alaska for USO like you're gonNA. Blow the title for me. Maybe this would coach k. was going one and done. but yeah, the Duke team they if they were ten point favorites going into the game You can I think that might I just said eighty five was the biggest I think that was a bigger underdog. I think the point spread by Vegas I think that was the biggest upset in title game history point, underdog. One out to check my numbers on that, but I remember if not the biggest. It was one of the biggest. What if Duke Wins that game? We're talking about the ninety nine Duke team is one of the greatest games of all time there would be thirty eight and one with one loss being at the Buzzer, they swept the entire ACC. They had six NBA players plus Chris Carrawell. Who is the two thousand AC player the years of the following year he's. He's ACC career that seems absolutely stacked Yukon. was was decent there. I mean obviously they won the national title. They were ranked number one throughout the season but I don't think anybody expected Yukon winning especially since you has never won one national title before as you said Duke was this was this was like right in the trailing of the bridge. We have the new era of Duke. This is like looking back. One of the Heydays of do basketball was. Late nineties early two thousands and Uganda shock the world. and. This is also together Michael Jordan decided. You know what I'm GonNa Drive that Guy Richard. Hamilton and he's GonNa play on my team on the wizards, so that that was a good a great pick for your number. Five by number five is again. Another legend gotta I'm doing a lot of legends. Is this story true? Is that not true? We don't know, but it certainly alleged. Allegedly shirts and alleged. Yes the best bet people have accepted as fact and I'm one of those people The story goes that nineteen, eighty-six, six at the spring biggies meeting Lou Carnesecca Ajayi Lou Carnesecca and Paul Evans. The head coach of pit got into a fight because Lou Carnesecca accused John Calipari assistant coach, a pit of recruiting negative recruiting against Saint John's and Carnesecca by saying by telling him recruits that Carnesecca had cancer, he was going to die soon, and that's what he was telling recruits. That's big. That's big, that's. That is that is quintessential old days that. Coaches are just fighting. Coaches are dirty cruden rate there. As part of the game. Meanwhile by the way we should Richard Lucar, still alive ninety five. Still going strong, yeah, this was an eighty six probably wearing that sweater that he's doing. WHAT IS WORTH CAL DENIES IT Paul Evans Denies It. Of course you deny. Can you imagine like saying yeah I said that familiar, but whether it's true or not doesn't matter. That's the joy of the old big east. It doesn't have to be true. It has to sound causal enough to get us to believe it. That is number five of my list time. The John Perry told recruits. Lou Carnesecca had cancer. He's going to die based on nothing in particular other than just his desire Linda recruit. I think that that is honestly the the the perfect fitting. You know as far as like what is when we say like the the allure of the old big east outside of the basketball. What are you looking for? You're looking for that. You know what I mean. You're looking for the the soap opera. Is a bunch of like older men in their forties, fifties and sixties that are all kind of petty and dirty recruited that I won't forget it. It's a drop in the bag nonsense. Let's get back to this. Let's get back to personal vindictive Just. Yeah, very very baseless allegations like this is. This is what we want. We want back in College Basketball Rick stands various like I'm right over here my. You see me mark, Godfrey as well and that's where we are it was that our top ten th together. Those are Thompson. Those. Are you want to keep going? You WanNA stop? I thought I thought we were GONNA do ten are. million, other ones I wanNA perfect. I'll say this. We're running a little long. Obviously, it's going to be a long show, but I think the best way to honor. The Old Big East is to have like a little too much little too much baggage like because that was that was the legacy, the biggest by twenty thirteen to have like thirty six teams in there for five or six of them are dog shit and they're just waiting the conference down. That's a that's what we're doing here for. We gotta add some some nonsense. We gotta add Miami to the list here. Spring Miami at here. That would be That'd be great. Let's talk about those times genius. Check Miami or that's what we're doing here. Let's do some more picks. What yeah, the the old big east for the people that love the old big user really love that they're like. When did that happen? all right? Let's keep it going. Rick Pitino calls digger Phelps Go Away from dig and you've got a great chance. Chance of winning because he's never right This is Rick Pitino like we said he is. You know cemented himself as as a figure in the game. He's like I am one of these coaches I am. I said the big boy table I'm not afraid of these guys. In fact, I'll say anything to get any of these recruits. I'm not afraid to beat you by shooting threes. You Call Gimmicky and. I don't care. I'm going to win at whatever cost. And I! At whatever. Get into. But this was Rick Pitino trying to subtly. He's trying to be like a mob boss. You know it's like he's saying a lot, but but keeping it light, you know. They got. A great chance of winning is never right. He's upset about digger on his picked. He never pixes team. Obviously, this is this is the you know sort of the underbelly of of the conversation when he's asked us, but the whole point. Is that Rick Pitino? This point is pointing out to the world that he is that guy. I'M HIM I'm rick! It's mail and I will call out a one of your favorite coaches. Because again. He's never right. Around a winner I love it. That's great. This is again. It sums up what we love about the big, east is, it just keeps going. My number six pick the Syracuse two thousand six piggies title run. Gerry McNamara looking back on it as it turns out Gerry McNamara was not as dominant as I remembered him in the sense that he wasn't putting up like thirty five points a game. All that kind of stuff the reason we remember. It is because he was clutch e. The first game of the tournament they beat Cincinnati McNamara hits like a floater. One handed floater from the three point line at the Buzzer a basically as there's maybe a second, they beat Cincinnati. Jim Behind goes in. The Post game press conference. Just goes ham on on the student newspaper Syracuse, which is another great thing about the big East Bay pettiness that like I feel like the student newspaper has no way whatsoever is shown it like you should not pay. You should pay attention to whatever the the city of Syracuse. Paper is called the daily Orange who gives a shit about that Jim like it's. It's a bunch of kids like a in. Our producer Louise I, worked on yeah. But she should know more than anyone. Who cares what a bunch slept in one, thousand, nine, hundred hundred. Journalism students at Syracuse are so upset right now. They're like new podcast. I'm trying I'm trying to get the right heedful things about where's Joey lanes? I'm trying to get. A hit piece on your. This is a behind is just doing about this that they call the the the daily orange called Gerry McNamara. Okay, so after McNamara hits the buzzer beater against Cincinnati he goes in. He says our students newspaper called him overrated I'm Gonna I'M GONNA. Tell you one thing right now. We would have won ten fucking games without Gerry McNamara drops in the hard F- Don't be mad at me dead. That was recording J. Jim Behind. That was not mark. Titus drops the hardest. goes on a rant. Defenses guy in his senior year McNamara was watching obviously channels that goes absolutely nuts. The rest of the way with with clutch play after college play. They beat UCONN OT the next game number one UCONN. McNamara once again hits the three at the Buzzer of regulation based basically the by when I say Buzzer you know what I mean, the Senate Otc they beat Uconn. It turned around. All the graphics are showing that no team at biggies tournament history has ever won in overtime game and then won the next night as well. Syracuse says we're GONNA go ahead. Be the first. They beat Georgetown, a B. Pit in the final that they went. Four Games have four days the first three of those. Those games were decided by one possession. And then the the final wingers fit they win by four. One of the most historic big would be the number one big east tournament run without gamma. Yeah, but that kind of sets the timber like we saw Gerry. McNamara did and it, and it gave us the context for then five years later when Kimber did it. We're like Oh my God. What Tim is doing. We thought we would never see it again with Gerry. McNamara Syracuse did it. Did it five years later made it like so much more special intimidated. into me was also Gerry McNamara was the first big East guard where he had these two separate lives in his career, where he added oath retitled Gas Carmelo, where he wins the championship, and everyone's like Oh. Yeah, Gerry McNamara the White Kid, the hits threes with Carmelo. That's cool. And then he had his own separate run, and I remember Shabazz napier sort of doing the same thing with Yukon, where he was there in twenty eleven, it was a psychic Kinda the twenty four teams like yeah, I'll just go in with Jim. And then macnamara Gratis Chinstrap and came back Eric, door that was invaded. Any rows. Everyone's all right number seven for you. Man This is, this is when it gets fun because you just drop the hard F- I'm GonNa. Drop one his well. This is a different Jim. This is Jim Calhoun. And you've got Hoon. was asked a question about Ryan Gums and why he did not bring him. The Yukon and he goes I. You know I did tell Ryan. Does that make you happy to hear? That did not bad. He talks about a MEK okeafor. Bad then not bad play is the not bad and this is. That's the only time I could do the Calhoun accent by the way when I say they're not bad, not bag. But I can't do it otherwise. It's kind of like Schwarzenegger. We're has to be like get jobs. That'd be a catch free. Who is your Daddy? And what does he do? Exactly Yeah Yeah. Oh Man. I'll think about kindergarten cop. Good all right. We're GONNA. Go to Jim Calhoun, does this this is a? This was two thousand and four this. He Providence Beats Yukon this is you like ranked six in the country or something. Providence beats you count as their second loss in three days, Ryan Gomes's from Connecticut Jim Calhoun. Was Recruiting Ryan Gomes ultimately cooled off of Ryan goes the reporter. Ryan Gums Kills Yukon Beats Him US reporters like Jim. How does it feel to have a guy that was in your backyard? and You let slip away to grass today and. Jim Couch goes absolutely if it was this, this is the big east, too. Because depending a small coaches and taking everything personally because I actually felt like it wasn't a bad question. If you go back and watch the press conference like it's kind of a valid quite like the guy wasn't trying to be a about it, he was just like. Like Ryan Gomes's pretty good. Is there anything you know? Maybe I? Don't know the back story. I don't know if this report is like Badger Calhoun about it a million times before that, but in the vacuum like asking him about. Ryan the Connecticut Kid killed you today. That's a decent question like. Would you like to speak on that and Calhoun just goes. It just goes off. It starts dropping. F-BOMB says they're not bad defense that he took Mecca Okra Koran Butler instead and the best part about the state to put a big bow on. It is that this was the season that you goes on to win a national chain? Can Look Century and BJ alder and Mussa. Ishmael? Mom, and all those guys and Yeah, they won the title and the history was happy. Yeah, so it makes the rant much better like he's. Losing his mind. That? He goes where the National Championship. Those double fingers to the reporter that questions recruiting tactics Jim Calhoun engine Bay Heimer very much the same type of person where they they're gonNA. Say what's on their mind, or what's on their chests, whatever say, and then they're going to know have this kind of like walk back. Emotional like I'm sorry. I was just a little heated I'm just a little heat. I'm sorry. Let that slip and it's like okay you gotTa. They. Wanted? During. Who I am you know? I'm sorry. I'm a competitor. I just WANNA win so badly. We all love it and we're like. Yeah, we get it coach. We're sorry we Berkeley while we're on the Syracuse UCONN train here I'M GONNA make my number. What around seven my number? Seven pick by seventh rafic is the six overtime game between Syracuse Uconn a game. That is just absolutely absurd. Looking back on it. It was absurd in the moment. It was one of those games that like we were talking about baseball. How baseball's trying to make games? Games shorter, their extra inning games and I made the point that like once. A game gets a certain point. You kind of just like screw it. Let's just get crazy. Let's go forever. That was this game I. Remember what was going into four overtimes. I was like all right I wanNA see twelve overtimes like I wanna see I wanna see just an absurd amount of overtimes. When you know when the second overtime when when we were going into the third overtime like God, just in this game and by the time before. Ended I was like all right. I hope this goes river. Eight players out eight five more players had four fouls when this thing was all said thirteen players had four more fouls in this game there were one hundred two point scored after regulation ended. And then the other, the other thing I wrote down. That's absurd. When he looked back at the boxer, eighty rounds came off the bench for Syracuse and played fifty minutes. That hasn't been record that. Yeah, there's definitely a rightfully fifty minutes off the bench for Syracuse so Again one of those games where if you were watching it, you'll always remember your feelings watching it like just kind of what that experience was like at watching six. You'd almost didn't even matter who want like honestly there are days where I don't remember who want, you could catch off guard like hey. Who on the six overtime game I'm like? I. Fell Asleep for. Fifty. Minutes, but it doesn't. It doesn't matter who won the game. That's that's the other thing we should say it. Was You know who won the game? The game the big fans. biggie! People whoever. Around family cause like we go around was at the start of the big east, and you got anti rounds in the middle of this I mean this is a poetic how it's working out all right next up for A. Man I'm like. Are you running? Run out a moment three some? No, I'm more. Out of moments I'm running out of like do I wanNA pick certain moments because I don't even well Whoa to say it I mean why not Walter the truth? Berry stopping Pro Washington Nine, hundred, ninety, six big. He's title game and tournament title game, I. Hear a lot about per Washington or I've heard a lot about per Washington to you know Harry our friend from against all odds is a big syracuse basketball. Fan Loves Pearl I. Always Tell Him that Pearl to me. Is Earl the Pearl Integrated on it. Yeah, that's on the side. the Pro Washington is a great player This is you one of those times where I think about the old big East I was trying to about. You the this is just like the truth versus Pearl. I think the headline was like the truth blocks Pearl to win. Nine hundred, eighty, nine, hundred, ninety six big biggies title game like that is something that sounds like a marvel comic book character situation where you WanNa tune in and watch and yeah nineteen ninety six. I feel it doesn't get enough credit. We keep talking nineteen eighty-five and all these seminal moments, but this was just a big championship game between two guys, great nicknames and most times you would think curl comes out on top of the truth us today at Pearl was such a big deal to syracuse because he was there doing molen than there I like. Your Guy. Guide like Holy Shit we landed this guy. He's come as a freshman. He gets half court shot to beat Boston College there's pandemonium. Everyone's losing their minds over over Pearl a so he's. He's he's. He's rightfully legend. It's just like I. Don't I? Don't think Pearl ever like transcended got to that bowl and level, but Syracuse fans. You did to Syracuse. Yeah, he did Syracuse. Fans. Love Him. That's a great pick. All right my number. What are we on eight eight, my number eight. Is Patrick Ewing, starting in one thousand nine hundred title game with five gold, since as I said I wanna I wanNA put as much. John Thompson on this lizard. Possibly can he John Thompson was my first two picks. It's time to revisit. Come Full Circle Bring Bring Back John Thompson tells Patrick Ewing, a freshman Patrick Gilead. Who who was a big coup for him, you kind of already talked about is recruiting like he's coming out of Boston he does not go to Boston College legend. Has It story? Has It sorry tape? Plug your ears, but he went to visit North Carolina. There's a Klan rally. Happening nearby was obviously disturbed. That did not WANNA go their egos the Georgetown. Obviously John Thompson is is dealing with his own racial issues. Being this big imposing. Coach in college basketball in the eighties. The to are they just have like a symbiotic relationship. It's like it's probably. Obviously why ended up? There is like that that's a coach. When John Thomson's like I know what you're going through Patrick. Pariah you're pariah? Let's let's beat them together. So the the whole point was like Patrick Ewing had this or around him were like. People were almost scared of him, and whether it was racism or whether it was lake. He's just so imposing on the basketball court whatever how we arrive there by the nineteen eighty-two title game he had this larger than life, persona and John Thompson was like we're going to tap into that. We're going to start the game and every single shot that gets put up golden I don't care where it is. Just wipe it away I. Don't I do not want to see them. See The ball. Go through the basket. He basically gives North Carolina ten points. The end up losing maybe not the greatest strategy, but I love where we're Thompson said was that with this, and it certainly sets its own Patrick Set the tone for the rest of his career I think like people people that think back on that game the way they talk about it. They're like yeah. That was I mean kind of worked. Even though in the end it it, but it did set the tone for that gave. The patch is going to be forced. Yeah, it's one of those. That game of I watched that eighty two title Game Plan Times Vhs and as you start that game, the North Carolina team. They're looking over the bench like Jimmy Blacks. Redeem Smith and he's like Is this GONNA give us? A thing and Dean Smith just just. Like I don't know what's going on. It's going to play our game, fellas. Have Fun out there. But Yeah Big John is intimidation. That's how he I mean. We talk about the sweater. That was the first big news. The same thing I want to set the tone I want to scare these guys. I want them to remember the last year in the title game. They coped. Especially you James Worthy? You're not big game. James Yet and I. Don't want you to see the ball in the basket and I want you to be intimidated by this young freshman. Who's better than you? And it's funny, because like literally that there was another freshman on North Carolina that was already quote, unquote could be better than James Worthy, but he and his mind is the big man's game. This big man is better than you. Let's set butterfly, effect Patrick Ewing only goal tens of the first three shots. Georgetown Wednesday that game. And then you ain't gets the better Jordan three years. Butter Butter Butterfly. Patrick Ewing wins three titles in four years. He is on the same level as Kareem abdul-jabbar and we're talking about the big man in college basketball history. Yeah, you know what I mean in like. He have beat Villanova. They were better than Villanova that year I mean I'm happy that Mass Minoan Villanova and. Georgia was a better team win. Three titles. As you've been? In look, let's just be honest, nineteen ninety-three. NC State lucked into title and he could have been four four everything. Disrespected at the. Absolute. Superstar Michael Jordan from Michael. Michael Jordan did to him. He wanted him because Michael Jordan was jealous because a nineteen eighty the same year that he was the same age. Chris Patrick Ewing, guess who they were talking about Patrick, Ewing Chris and Michael Jordan. I'm a couple a lot of conclusions here. I think. I think I have a appreciation for Patrick Ewing. Loved the OB through all this? Reached got through picks left. Let's wrap this thing up. Use Your picks wisely. T might pick Scottie Reynolds coast-to-coast in two thousand nine. I think you know, this is my Villanova Pic- I was. Unfortunately Villanova was gonNA play North. Carolina team in two thousand nine. That was just loaded with talented. They're gonNA lose, but then that play in written like Chris Do Honda than two thousand four do against North Carolina and that drove. My still drives me and to this day, but Scottie. Reynolds doing that It was just as such a big tournament moment and it. It was also for for Villanovan Jay Right. You know at the time Jay Wright is such a guy that don't know I feel like we're all pulling for him. You know Kinda like we get over the Hump and five North Carolina beat Villanova when they Akao lowry and then they honestly Randy for they won that game against North Carolina, so they escaped that one. But for him to get the final four Villanova had that moment for Scottie Reynolds to make You know the presence of mind to make that play. It was a great moment in tournament. History and I somehow feel like it gets forgotten it really. I think. It's own nine. My memory of nine was that North Carolina was going to kill everybody so like I really wasn't that excited I mean I. was I was at Ohio state. We were playing. We lost a Sienna. Would objectively one of the Great Tournament, Games of all time double overtime with us a Dayton. We'll be lost like you know I. Mean North Carolina Killing Everybody in this tournaments like really cares, doesn't it doesn't mean people so bad? The trial also was talking about not playing. Games off comeback and sweet sixteen. It was like no tie. That's that's how I remember like I, so then like after we lost and I was like follow nine tournament as it was progressing, it was still just sort of forgettable in that regard. Was this kind of like? The tournament doesn't start until North Carolina loses, and as it turns out, they never lost so maybe that's why it is, but yeah great pick also yeah, Big East for the Big East pit versus Villanova Oh nine hundred eight hit. Never really did get over that. Hump, PA, ouch. Well here's. I'll I'll I'll make you happy fans I'll make my next pick my number nine pick syndrome. How about the big us? Great fans are licking their wounds here hit versus Providence, one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty eight. We've all seen the clip a million times before the call it kind of launch bill raftery broadcast career not that he needed it like he would have been a legend. Regardless, but it certainly a kind of kind of helped him drome lane, keep the past from Sean Miller Forget Shawn Miller was the one who through drome, Linda Pass. Absolutely I forget who he dunked on, but absolutely shit all over the guy shatters the backboard We get the famous call Senate into Rome. They delay the game the pit fans. It's just absolute. Absolute pandemonium every time I. Watch it I. Just I wish I could go back in time in watch basketball when there is a slight possibility to the glass, figured shandor technologies to good. That was so awesome to watch basketball I was one year old, nineteen eight. I'm not talking about that more so like the shack era when he was lightning league. Tear down goals and all. He tore down a goal on TNT. The other matter whatever tbs in Rob Gronkowski lay down and go and I was like Oh. That's awesome. Would shack was playing. You're turning on the game in the back your mind. You're like it could tonight could be. Brake check check. Check. That's my number. Nine pick send it in Jerome Some fun facts about lane. Might. Be Aware this. The same high schools the brunt from Akron. Ohio Saint Vincent Saint Mary lump also a nineteen, eighty eight, he led the country and rebounding with thirteen, and a half rebounds per game. Six. The first guy to be six six or shorter lead the country and rebounding, and like thirty something years. yes. A couple of fun facts buttram line. L. Men that's amazing I was GonNa say like Barclays in that area, too, so he's like battling and get sparkley. It's like guys under sixty six. They're like trying to be the rebound. Guys may well. I Guess Robin. Did Play College basketball so that that changes that all right? Let's keep going my final pick. My numbers in this is one that's I guess personal again, but I do remember watch this game since two thousand eight, and it features a guy that you and I have had a couple of dinners with, and he's big, he's he went to the school. Appearing went to in fact, compared to Patrick, ewing quite a few times. That's Roy Hibbert. And it gets uconn in two thousand eight. This is where the rule, so the racist sixty nine has obviously I six nine GonNa win the game, but when both teams get sixty nine th. There's a rule of sixty nine that says whoever's I always GonNa win the game and in two thousand eight. You was playing Georgetown regular season game. They retired at sixty nine Roy Hibbert received a pass step behind the three point line. And he hit that three Mark Titus when. The rule of sixty nine was formed. In Roy Hibbert sit there seventy two to sixty nine hits the three. That year they were supposed to go and win a national championship. They were a number one seed. In fact, lose to you know Steph, Curry Davidson and Raleigh North Carolina to our. Knowing. All the ones you've made of the year the year before before they were once anyways. They lose that game. Win that game they they set the tone for the rule of sixty nine and then. I was at the game rally se Roy Hibbert again and I see Steph Curry. Changed the game. Say Big men. we're. GonNa shoot threes from now on. It was a changing of the guard of sorts, but I remember Roy Hibbert hitting the irony is that Roy Hibbert hit a three to start the race in the rule of sixty nine, and then steph curry at the end of the year beats him with threes. I'll say Roy. Hibbert was under appreciated as well A. Has Been under. Protector to the Max, I mean he was driving invented. He invented the the wall in up at the rim like he invented that, and if you said that people would, you'd have a bunch of up and down straight up if you said that. Sixteen, year olds on twitter telling you. Roy Hubbard. Javale McGee was the first. Roy. Magee does not think that Sir Shit on Roy Hibbert all you want, but those Pacers e series like Yeah Hibbert was was a brick wall. Hibbert also ended a Griggs career. People forget that as well a Greg Greg game back for the heat, and he got a little four for two thousand Fourteen Eastern Conference Finals Greg it's end for I forget what the reasonable because I think. It's because a Hebrew of mashed Hibbert Hitler was a lumbering big Man Greg Roy wasn't Joel Anthony Their center yet six nine and so, Greg. It's in Hibbert. Just goes nuts, and if you go back and watch the game and I don't know why you would God. Bless if you do but. Hibbert like. Great wasn't even played that badly hit was playing out his mind like it was like unfinished business from the seven zero four that hibbard dislike the starts turning and facing his jump shots on Greg. Greg says Look Lake. WHAT THE HELL LIKE DUDE! I'm trying to salvage a career here suddenly shots. Your big! This is a big on big crime you know. Stay in the league supposed to power dribbles and throw a baby hook, and then maybe it goes it maybe doesn't we all live with, and you're not supposed to be like doing Tim Duncan, Jab step series off what? And, everyone like band Roy. Hibbert is really great. His game has grown so much I. Mean Look Greg compared to. Pull Greg from the game, but he never gets back and then he just basically plays out retires after that knows that. All right my final pick to wrap this thing up and we'll we'll. We'll get out of here. When Dan, doc shook the West Virginia job for eight days, and then quit, and then West, Virginia turned into the Great. Basketball Program. We known left Somkiat is. That is not my issue it could be. That's actually a good pick. I was GONNA say is I if you said Twenty Thin West Virginia the backyard brawl with Pitt and West. Virginia, that was your final pick. That would have been the one thing. The PIT and West Virginia fans are like. Yes, we are all big, the yeah. The joke was dockage You Know He. He tries to make it look like. The bad guy and that he was wrong in the West Virginia like well, we'll just hire. John Beeline instead, and they'll hire Bob, huggins, and away we go and now her. A great program my final pick was when Jim behind called indicates in idiot in a post game press conference in two thousand thirteen indy cads was asking behind what the series with Yukon to behind it was it was it was syracuse last run in the big east were getting ready to join the ACC. The biggest was up uconn Syracuse was obviously a great rivalry throughout the biggies years of two two biggies members. It was coming to an end now indicates was going to ask the coach who seen it all had been syracuse the entire biggest run. What is this series with Yukon? Mets behind Jim Boeheim, said anti quote all answer, anybody's questions, but yours because you're an idiot. And really a disloyal person, and then someone else ask him a question. And he turned the answer the next question and I thought that was great because. Again that's how was you had one speed was pettiness. It was like I. don't care. I'm not going to be sentimental. I'm not going to be too stodgy. I'm going to be petty to the end to see this through to the finish line, and that's what he did. So that is my number. Ten pick behind calling any cats in idiot for no discernible reason. And it's a perfect pick. I think one more thing we have to say in twenty eleven. He did point out to the world that you can't judge people players coaches on a little segment time There's coaches in the hall of fame. He said he'd been eighty percent of the time. And you know we're talking about being a humble guy. That is not what the old big East is. is about it's about making bold statements. It's about you know being as bombastic having the Hubris that you need to have a and setting a tone and setting a statement as to who you are into what the fine you as a program and a lot of it like mafia bosses and I think that's that's why It worked out so well again Rick Pitino thrive in this era. The gyms you know obviously are always gonNA revered and remember I think the only thing that I have to say is for the whole lineage of the biggies we achieve and sendoff for what was so great. Yeah, that's that's unfortunate. We did. Louisville won the national title in two thousand thirteen in the final year, the big east, and then had to taken away, which is cheap and somehow yeah poet, I guess. It's been you back. Don't say it's their back the big East is back. We're excited for now. We just gotTA GET SYRUP BACK. We've got to Boston College back. We gotta get. Everyone that we gotta, get records back. Let's say rutgers back. That's a big one. Rutgers back at the biggies all right? We're GONNA. Take a break. Come back, wrap this thing up. Here and it's time to enjoy the season that means it's time to feed your yard with Scott's. It's easy to help your long. Stand up to summer, wear and tear. To keep it lush and green and help prevent those brown spots. It's time to get outside and enjoy every day. And Scott has got. You covered because even though this summer may feel different. Things never change, so let's get to it. It's time to enjoy yard Scott's good out here. mealtime, it's coming. So what's IT GONNA be today, gas station hotdog frozen microwave mini meal soup from an envelope. Are you ready for something uncommonly delicious like the famous ladder of from firehouse subs. The Hook and ladder is one of our most popular subs for good reason. 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That was awesome. There so I'm not even GonNa do this because the shows already long enough, but ones that you felt like it's a great window that one that one should have been. That is that's that's the yeah. That's a blind spot for us, we we. Go Four. I remember more vividly than fourteen. Because fourteen like you said they're out of the big you, so it doesn't count. That will give us a reprieve. Deal babies. Any moments any stories any legends any. Anything that we forgot, let us know because We cannot get enough of this. We're very excited you back. All right shouts closeouts. Let's wrap it up. A shutout to Sean. Hurley, use a Fox family member with US works with us, and he is the first person that I've ever met in my entire life that was Uconn basketball through and through and back headed disgust towards me, being Carolina Fan. said that the ACC had polluted the minds of college basketball fans have made them more ignorant. These are the things that he would say to me. and honestly it gives me fired up because it's very similar to fan would say uconn fans in general. They are a college basketball. Fans, air basketball fans. They are college basketball fans I can not stress that enough. You ask Sean about know-how Jim. Jim Calhoun is able to win a ninety nine because he lost ninety two coach K. and Christian Leitner doubleclick shot and Jim Calhoun. Every Single Day was going to the gym, thinking about that moment replaying replaying it replaying, it's and I'm going to get back to that game upbeat. And, it goes back to the title game winning. Shots, a Yukon fans because in the world of the Lazarus project were trying revive college basketball. We need true. Blue College basketball fans and you can. Fans are earliest certainly wanting he has, he has a Husky named Kimba. And the first time I learned about that I asked him. Where did you go to school, Sean? It doesn't. It didn't happen to be Yukon did. Guess what it wasn't. It was Syracuse and he's still a Yukon basketball fan because he's from Connecticut. Shit, yeah, he went to Syracuse is a syracuse journalism major and was a conduct. Entire Syracuse I forgot is what I'm talking about folks. That is a Yukon Basketball Fan. That is a college basketball. That is I'm Jim Calhoun over Japan is. Ever. The sorry I'm calling I'm hitting A. Police squad I'm Callin to come through some about this, but I'm hitting the button and I'm saying that that is a big time. No for me you. You cannot be uconn Fan. If you went to serious I I won't allow. It infiltrated the enemy to know that he was going to go into journalism to then talk about the enemy. That is genius. He's not our bosses. Can you fire? I WANNA shout out Spencer Dinwiddie. Who announced that he you know? The NBA came out and said that they're going to allow players to put Social Justice causes on instead of their last night. I mean we saw this with the premier league. They're putting black lives. Matter on the backs of their jerseys instead of the players last names. The NBA apparently is is is leading to be a free for all you don't have to black lives matter you can't. If you want be any caused, the is near and dear to your heart, except probably I'm going to go out and limb. Probably not the Hong Kong situation I'm guessing they're not gonNA love that, but don't do that. Dinwiddie tweeted. He's going to put out trillion on the back of his Jersey which I got very excited about. Trillions are my brand. It turns out had nothing to do with me. It had to do with the national. Bundt be the national. As the national deficit you wanted he wanted to make that his cause a shadow to him for putting on the back of the Jersey but wait take also at the same time. He just tested positive for coronavirus. Whether he even plays in. This thing is still up for debate, so, but I still think you put the Jersey up. You still sell the Jersey I. Think you need to get that Jersey like I? Said Bun be anyone from h town that represents themselves as a trillionaire deserves that Jersey I think it will be bad if he does get into game and that's. That's come out and is actually putting up a trillion posting trillion. I gotta say would be just reminded me making the club. Trillion logo be a rip off of the run DMC thing genius branded on my part because I found that many professional athletes by my shirt that says club trill in run, DMC style, and I am. There's zero percent chance they would. They thoroughly believe that is A. H Town's finest versus versus. The. I looked into that one. We'll put it that way. I was not aware of the concept of a trill before it started the trillion blog in my God did what am I blessed that I chose? The way I did because it all. It all lined up perfectly. Now have a picture of one of the one of the I. Think it's slack. One of the stupid social media platforms I don't use. My profile pictures deandre Jordan born club show shirt and there's there's no world which he knows. What club trillion? I remember who? Katie. Nolan is on the All Star game. Celebrity the celebrity off and like she was like. What do you mean? Three shirt. She's like. She's literally. Like talking about what's going on here. yes, shelter the shelter club. Choi, that's a like. You said a great brand. In image, bringing it back into. Got Cronin now you're not even gonNA play. I well, we'll see what happens There's this point time shadow to Greg. Oden Kevin Durant and I say that because yesterday on twitter I was seeing everyone You know pointing out the fact that this was day this day in history is the day Greg was picked number one. And I always wanted to say in the one and done era that we point two six. There has not been a more dominant one and done duo to ever deliver the way that those two did in the sense that Greg Oden and Kevin durant lived up to the billing unlike anything I've ever seen in the sense that they walked into a basketball, knew how to play the game of basketball, and then punished in dominated kids while being kids. Kids and Greg Oden was forced Greg Oden was skilled Greg Oden was dunking all over people that the clip that we saw on twitter that someone put up of him. Don't all over no one space. All these guys that was great to see I love Greg I love watching Greg play basketball. I think people have forgotten. How great was that think he's like Anthony, Bennett or something? Yeah, it was nothing like a Greg Oden in basketball close. Not even close and Kevin Durant, the other side for someone to be so sinewy and Lanky, and then seemingly not in the right body. Yeah, he was so smooth and it was just. Like it was just those guys are gonNA. Play Basketball I. Don't know we get a lot of guys that come in and get hype and I always feel like they're learning the game of basketball. Those guys knew the game of basketball and they came in ready to dominate and. That's that's all wintering. Greg was great Greg Played. He was Great Greg. Greg. Is Mark, the end of microfracture surgery. People forget that that like everyone getting microfracture and then Greg Ode had like twelve of them. He had a punch card and his. He bought ten and then his eleven and two years later. They like these are. This is Greg Greg would have basically I think he would have been basically like Joel except like more Grit like I've never sedan like it when Greg He's, he's the nicest gentlest guy. When he gets on the basketball court is just an absolute lack like a turns into the Hawk and just. He wants to dunk the ball on your head. That's what it feels like. It feels like every time. He catches the ball in the block. It's like this countdown three two one bang. Greco, the original best recruit since Lebron. To bring that full circle I WANNA shout out the funded program Justin Anderson. Who got the tape? He has signed with the Nazis replacing Wilson Chandler for now as we possibly Spencer Tim Winton I mean. He's GonNa be the last man standing on the nuts, just an interesting getting as big opportunity after coming on our show. Is it a coincidence? Is it not who's to say at a certain point? You have so many data points with title tape off I think it speaks for itself but yeah, that's that's where we're at Justin. Anderson comes on the show now. He's back in the league. So you're welcome justed Dago Justin speaking of guys that are back in the league or getting picked up showed up theo. Pinson Theo. Pinson gets cut by the nets to make a roster spot. I believe for Tyler. Johnson, and then he gets cut and everyone's Kinda like all of doom and gloom. I hate to see that then all of a sudden the New York Knicks. Say Hey, what are you saying? We would like to have fun on our bench like know what has fun at MSG More Alonzo. Tree are young promising score. Let's cut you. Get the OH. Pinson only team I think two years a great prospect. Obviously you know he's been up and down, but he's a great score I think who have opportunities, but shot at the opens again the Knicks and I. Think Knicks are trying to make like a media type team. You know what I mean. Lessen there and Leon rose and you know they're building a bench. Bob Out. The Knicks are going to be. The Knicks aren't in the bubble. But what? If what if there's a team out there that that isn't a bubble that is purposely putting a roster together. The has strong immune system. They're purposely signing. Guys think are not going to get the virus, and that's like they're. They're hol. They're not worried about how good you are there just like we wanna make sure that like our are is still standing. I guess that's more of its TV T- thing right? We got starting this weekend and they said that everyone on the team. Hasn't you're out so basically like the one of the worst teams is whoever has the strongest immune system's going away. Who knows? Better who's better at faking detests I was GONNA. Say there's one team I can think of the NBA. That would try to do something like that would be okay see. or The rockets you know. What are these teams efforts whatever it takes like? James Harden is eating iron pills forty-nine time for us. You know whatever it may be Yeah, they seem like the type of team I wanNA. Shout out, Dickie be who again is tweeting about Lsu. He says that a source is telling him to Arizona and Lsu. You're going to be notified of violations at the end of July or early August so mark your calendar that is coming. We are about a month away from vs prediction coming to fruition that the bomb is being dropped on Arizona's Lsu. They're facing according deputy level one charges. Yeah, what? He's never been wrong before on any of this stuff, so get excited about that. That is our source. That is our scoop in. That is what we do. We have something to look forward to in college basketball. Because Digby also pointed out titus that he has a plan, just in case, we don't have college basketball starting on time. He said here's his five part plan at ESPN PR. He said started in January. only play League Games only play the tournament. Only play March madness, and then I can't remember the fifth one, but I'm pretty sure that's always said maybe only listed for, but those are playing comeback in January. We do that. We get a tournament. We get League conference. Play that matters tournament. You know in conference that matters and the I think they should. They should also play in. Should fly every college basketball team for so put him up in a bubble. No, even better. Let's fly him to Maui. Let's get everyone knew now. Let's just play in the center. We're only be two teams in there anyway. It's only big enough for two and it's. Like. It's literally shut off from the rest of the world. Like how hard is this fly every? Every all three, hundred, hundred, Ninety, seven, whatever it is three hundred fifty two college basketball teams do Maui. Let's play the entire season out on the Line Center I. Love It I. Love It nonstop Games Twenty four hours of basketball data about programming. Bill One's losing his mind, he's like how many games have I called? Who Says No, not a shoutout, also northwestern big stat of the day tate, the northwestern wildcats currently have the number three recruiting class in the class of twenty twenty one two things to keep in mind. They're currently egg drop. Currently Salako obscure. Let's check back in three months and they're going to be like twenty eight, but right now they're number three and number two. The thing we should point out number three. It's a perfect quintessential north western state. It's like Oh my God. We're number three. We're doing and this is unbelievable. They were so close. To and we're definitely not one, but we're closed. That's it anything else before. Congrats Jon Hamm for finding love. I saw that the other day. I just want to shut up Jon. Hamm feel like You know there's a lot of people out there looking for love, but thank God one of the most handsome man in the world founded. He found he found a woman would be willing to He did it you did it. What If you can do it I think we all can I think we ought. Come on what an underdog story that is! Oh! WHO I WANNA. Shout out was giving you the opportunity to do it you. You didn't want to I'll do it. Show Chet Holmgren number one recruit in the twenty twenty one class. He's Got Ohio State North Carolina and its final seven just came out with his final seven. You obviously don't care. You don't want to bring it up, so I'm going to bring it up shed. If you're listening, I love you come to Ohio state come to Columbus. We will treat you right. We'll give you whatever it is. You need You can take a shit at Martinez Day. It's all there for the taking. Come to Ohio State Buddy I. Tell I. don't really follow recruited that cozy. 'cause I sell the chat Holmgren like the listens final seventy Mike home. Number one recruit chat home ground of Minnesota. And I was like that can't be what number one? So Chat Holmgren. Is the number one. Debates is the number one recruit kate cutting the number of crew. Jalen greed is number owners who Jonathan commingle right and their. Number one recruit. We have five hundred. One recruits so probably James also at number, one crew Mikey Williams, also the normal recruits. This shadow shut up before we go like all the recruited services general, because like yeah racket congratulations, these guys. The Evan Daniels. Daniels went from I mean when I was an inside Carolina. Evan Daniels was a scout recruiter insider, and now he's going to see to be an agent for college basketball coaches so like you said the recruiting services what come up, you know I mean a changing of the guard so here we are! This is unbelievable. What what what an absolutely right you gotta do is. Say. A bunch of guys are number one build up. And then yeah, and then you get yourself. Yourself a nice little. Yeah, the only time they messed with that was the one guy that I would say is that they really messed up with Shabazz Muhammad? That was the next Lebron and everyone's like. Are you sure it was like Savia Henry or Shabazz Muhammad you? Are you argue which one I love Shabazz Muhammad like the talented. Like he just I was was going for the bag. He literally had the bag right, wasn't he? The guy that had like the Gucci Bag at the Post game press conference and everyone's like Subas. What are we doing your what? You can't just come literally wearing the bay those him right ahead head like the I swear it was. Yeah, I mean that makes post game press conference where like a three thousand dollar do bag and Know. When you did you said Gucci like baggage is I remember Corey Harris, who back for Miami? We're GONNA. Get back to the old big. East Corey. Harris were said that he was in the first list of the heisman like six weeks into the season. He was gonNA wear pink suit. And then he played A. Game? You play North Carolina. And he threw like five picks. Psych wasn't wasn't in the. In the post game press conference. They're like magic here as we call them. Santa. Claus just giving presents. Gucci suit. Story fantastic thank you for listening. Thank you, thank you to the Big East. Thank you Dave Gavitt for Vinnie biggies. Thank you to college basketball in general. This was we've we've been doing a lot of We've been cover a lot of other sports and a lot of other stuff. 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All Ball - #1 UK's Evansville L; Pac-12/ACC Pictures; Wrong On Trey Young; Sit Steph; Eastern Michigan HC Rob Murphy

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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All Ball - #1 UK's Evansville L; Pac-12/ACC Pictures; Wrong On Trey Young; Sit Steph; Eastern Michigan HC Rob Murphy

"How are you feeling today right? Now how are you feeling about the world. You WanNa make the world better. Do you know how I'm not sure I do. But you know who did Mr Rogers Wallace host of finding Fred a new podcast from I iheartradio and finally about the legacy of Fred. Rogers check out finding the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen. Hey what I welcome in Doug Gottlieb here and you are listening to all all basketball and a reminder you can listen to the Doug Gottlieb show daily three to six eastern twelve to three Pacific on on your Fox sports radio affiliate or iheartradio APP or Siriusxm to seventeen or two. Oh three camera which is which. But you can figure it out. I think serious I and XM is second. I Saturno you'll figure it out. I'm on the same station. Is Dan Patrick. Better good robber is our guest this week on the ball podcast. He's a really talented. I guess you'd say young. He's in his mid forties young coach at Amu. He's been head coaches ninth year longtime and and it's an ems program. That after Ben Braun left went to cal it fell on hard times. And they've resuscitated. Two years ago his best year last year a senior laden eighteen three best players are seniors and they struggled. I'll ask him about that but it's also about his personal journey. GREW UP IN DETROIT. You're not going to believe all the different intricacies of of his upbringing. What led him to being the man he is today the parent he is today the Coachie is today and by the way he has a new book out? It's called deep by Rob Murphy. She wants you hear the interview. You'RE GONNA WANNA buy the book and you'RE GONNA WANNA get to know this guy's amazing guy. Okay let me give you a quick little line on Kentucky being beaten by Evansville and while it's not panic it's not canceled the season. It's really cool for Walter Walter. McCarty team that was picked eighth in their league and last year one of his first Games. They played Xavier they. They nearly beat Xavier now. Xavier did not have the season that Kentucky's expect to have the one ranked number one in the country. And we all know that it's really hard to tell who is who's who's not we know the parody has arrived arrived. We also know that when you have when you have players When you when you have a variety of of guys like like Evansville has you know I mean they have K J Riley? who was there with the old coaching staff? Of course average fourteen game last year combined with Sam Cunliffe who this is third. Stop isn't it yes. Third Stop US on a state for like a minute and then Kansas and now at Evansville. So you get you get some older guys at the At the mid major level but Walter McCarty is a gem of a guy and I think a gem of a coach and I just thought they played harder. Obviously they hit five more three pointers. That that's a big difference and the question becomes I guess two fold one. We'll Kentucky have the shooting to win big in to as much as we could say they're a young team. They're not really nate. SESTINA is not. He's a Grad transfer senior. Nick Richards has been there. Ashton Hagans has been there have quickly has been there and and like you know we like to do this thing. Where obviously quill clue Whitney? Is there one starting fresh. They're starting one freshman. So it's not like they have all ten-year-old running around out there and they're being beaten by thirteen year old you've got some experience and now you're seeing why. Nick Richards national when Higgins and Hagan's really struggled you know out at you know there's things he does well shooting the basketball not one of those things so can they have the shooting thing about. They lost some last year. You'll lose both of your both of your star wings. You Know Tyler hero was a walking bucket and you're not left with with much at Johnny. Zan can really shoot but he was. I don't know if he's ready to truly be a star Star on this team but they do need his offense and eventually tarries Maxi will earn his way into the starting lineup tires. Max is a talented player. Who did hit some shots? Hit the big shots against Michigan State. But he's not a great shooter like that's not really what he I wouldn't say that's what he does. He's a score. He's a bucket. He's a guy who can go get his but I don't think that he's a shooter so does Kentucky have the shooting the answer so so far is no but I also think that the lack of sustained effort is surprising. Not because it's this early in the season but because this is not a group of Kentucky players they're throwing out five freshmen at once the hardest adjustment you make when you go to college basketball's how hard you have to play in comparison to the opponent. How hard you have to practice and and I'm surprised at Kentucky was frankly outplayed Evansville at the time of this recording last night those are my expectations for Kentucky? I thought Florida would be better. But man they got manhandled manhandled man in a black got manual by Florida state employees taking teams to dominate Florida. I would have thought Florida was was better man. Maybe this is an SEC story. We'll we'll see how the rest of the SEC. Kind of develops. I do think the PAC twelve is pretty good. We saw Oregon in St Louis to Oklahoma But Oregon State is mid pack right. They have I think a really good starting lineup. The question is going to be the point guard. Play has been has been an issue and trace tinkle. Mike as he's the Best Player in the PAC twelve doesn't mean he's the best prospect fifth year senior. GonNa Average twenty and ten and probably four or five assists like. He's tremendous player but their lack of bench depth and you know ended the day. It's he and Thomson Cuyler Kelly's really just a shot blocker. They don't they haven't had great point guard play. That's why they've lost so many close games. I feel like but organ Arizona USC Washington those are all like legit NCA caliber teams. And then we'll see about Arizona state that I have high expectations for Bobby. Hurley's team has a lot of fighting remark now in his third year third year feels like he's been there forever and he's only been there three years so I I'm I'm fascinated to see what Arizona state looks. Looks like I'm GonNa get a chance to see San Diego State Utah State in person over the next couple of days. A report back next week. Let me just say this about the ACC games being played early in the season. Do I agree with the idea of Jim. Boeheim like hey this is just for the ACC network I sure sure and TV does pay the bills and we make excuses for TV for. We make excuses for bad games being on. TV or crazy travel schedule well. TV One have like like every game he plays on TV. I don't actually like when I take a breath. I don't mind it because the regular season champion has been devalued already because there's so many teams mismatch schedules. It doesn't mean that Virginia when they want it hasn't been the best team but if you don't play Carolina twice you don't play Duke twice. Snake played twice in. Play you twice or only play you once. And they're playing you on the road it. It's hard determine who is truly elite champion. But it's weird. It's almost it's like you wish they would play half the the league season early and then have like maybe Christmas time or during some sort of break when you play non conference games and then play him again like like those early Non Conference Games. I mean teams are going to completely different in February and March. Think about think about you know Boston. College won their first game of the year. I'm Boston College. Opened up the season with an ACC game against wake forest. I I want you to take a breath and think about the idea. They don't play wake forest again till January nineteenth or if they play wake forest in the ACC tournament like in March. You play November. He played in January planned March. The teams will look completely clearly different each time. It doesn't bother me because it does give you a chance to truly evaluate how a team has evolved. But at some point this is going to be there'll be a damaging aging loss two. ACC team and then let's see if they do it next year the be a damaging loss to an ACC team because you know Syracuse played eight Virginia well before they're ready scored. What was it thirty four points or something like that now? Virginia's GonNa be good. It doesn't matter but there will be a loss to a team that when the game was played was actually healthy in pretty good so I I don't I don't hate the ACC teams playing each other. Early I understand it. I think it's kind of cool and I do think that ACC regular season play or the regular season champion has been devalued by these deep deep conferences is but I'll also tell you that It's at the end of the year. We look at your resume seeing a game in November. I I struggled to take it seriously because teams are so very different. But that's not the way that the to the that's not the way. The net rating works net rating is a net rating. Regardless of the month of the season the game is played in and and that strikes the opposite of how I believe. Those last ten games should be important when it comes to meet quality makes a huge difference in texture and taste and even though it might be better for you and the environment a lot of the higher quality meat you find at. The grocery store is just too expensive for most people's budget thankfully thankfully there's butcher box which your box believes. Everyone deserves. Access to high-quality humanely sourced meet at an affordable price. 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WHO's a really good player? Ma'am kind of thing. Great Scoring Guard at Texas Tech. I played against him. I thought he was awesome. I'm he was so protective of trae at a young age that I I don't know if he was the guy's guy he went to you he went to high school in college too. You're right down the street from each other and he spent his family's very very tight knit and because of it there are a lot of people like well. The air fit in with the team and the team didn't buy into emily in the country and scoring and assist and heating play defense. There is some dysfunction. There I'll never forget. I talked to Brad Stevens and I asked him about. It was about a different player in the NBA and might even been about Jalen Jalen Brown and how they didn't win when he was a cow. And he's like look if you evaluate the player. And you think the player is a supreme competitor editor like you're not going to draft somebody that you think lacks the competitive Jean. The defense thing that when the guys don't play defense in college or don't have the toughness and Co toughness heart gags. You can't just instilling this assignment. Damn tough player but and we got around to talking about trey and I remember him saying like look. You're tough enough to lead lead the country in scoring assists. You're probably tough to play defense. It's a bit of a mentality. But but his his point was look all these guys they come out and people go. I don't know if he's GonNa Guard anybody but in the NBA. If you don't if y'all anybody you're gonna get embarrassed every night. And if you evaluate somebody to have a high level of competitiveness they're going to compete defensively pensively and they're going to get better now. What's ultimate ceiling? I don't know I still. I thought that That the problem with trae was going to be a little bit like staff which is early in your career. You coach fired because you have to have them have the ball. They have to have the ball to make plays to be who they are. There are going to be some older players. Get Jealous of the over handling the ball and some of the shots that you take and the lack of defensive toughness the genes to what the hawks have done is for the most part. Obviously Vince. Carter is the exception option. They have a young team so they're totally bought in to trey. And by the way trays gotten tougher stronger and better. He's still got a good defensive player but he's it's not a swinging gate. He's not Isaiah Thomas for example and the shot making is really really remarkable. I don't know why he wanted to be compared to Steve Nash. It's because everybody respects Nash's passing but he's starting to look like as close as anybody we've seen to step in terms of the difficulty the of shot and the percentage of mix. It's a long way to go right. Because they're still not winning big but I'll be the first to admit appear to be wrong on trae a young and how much you can win with him in the early stages of his career couple of quick things around the NBA. The Lakers are gonNA sit. Sit Anthony Davis at the time of this recording. This oh Wednesday nights a drops on Thursday. He's not gonNA play. They're going to beat the warriors and I get that the warriors are sitting there going like we're not going to sit steph. Why would steph curry? Come back and play in the spring. Clay's not gonNA play. He's not gonNA play. I don't know if you WANNA call it tanking or just being smart. This is a waste of a season for the wars. It's I've never seen anything like this litany of injuries. They have it. It's crazy. Like of their top eight heading in the season six are out a and and you know a finals I mean a two time. MVP and clay. It's it's it's remarkable so I you know now now the question would become if you're the if you're the warriors my guess would be they're gonNA continue I mean DSL Russia's huge numbers this year. But eventually so you try and move Diangelo Russel. I think that's the deal. I think we're all kind of in on that. Like then really fit with who they are. Maybe keep him because he can just score but he doesn't offend the way they the defend he's a pick and roll play the pick and roll team but they will be this year so the question would be. Who would they draft laughed right? Wouldn't it be fun to just we're GONNA have to dedicate segments do. Who are they going to draft because that would be super interesting to me more so than their actual season? This year. The season this year is kind of a mess and then could they would they trade away Dangelo. Probably for a couple of older older pieces. More than for any sort of draft picks when they yeah. That seems reasonable on the other side instead of talking about they take James Wiseman I I do think view. The warriors are much. You'd like to replenish get young players. Get A is as stuart or Anthony. Anthony Everett's is a stud by the way the freshman Georgia He he could have been a senior in high school this year. I think all anthony is going to be right there for the number one overall pick ahead of like a Lamelo ball but if you're the warriors ears are GonNa try and win over the next couple of years. I don't think wise been put his. He's not advanced enough and the nineteen year olds aren't GonNa help you win an NBA championship. I don't think think so. Maybe they acquire that draft pick and then traded as an asset. But they're taking on the the Lakers and I think the Lakers are a real well. I think Caruso getting major minutes changes them and gives them an incredibly athletic finishing lineup. I'm not a huge Rondo. Guy But Rondo plays ten minutes a game fifteen minutes a game he can pass. He's smart as hell. Lebron likes playing with him and he actually can make a shot now. He's not you don't WanNa go and pretend threes a game but he can make a shot. Lakers are coming together. And the the thought is they add Andrea dollar at some point this year. And now you have Kyle Kuzma. Who's given them bench pop? That's a really good team. That's a championship caliber team. But with all the talk about resting guys and load management isn't at least curious to everybody else. What do the Lakers do like the bronze like? Hey if I'm healthy healthy I play only played a full season once and all that ego aside. Hey Dude your legacy is going to be determined in La by what you do in the playoffs and you're more likely lead to be healthy in the playoffs. If you sit in the regular season like I don't I don't know the once you get the term like load management it becomes something that catches like wildfire. And I get that he was harder back in the day. Not Having the treatment you have today not having the the private planes and the great hotels and all the nutrition Russian. But if you're Lakers like this is like quite letter doesn't surprise me. Everybody knew he was gonNA play Sixty Games. That's we did. He won a championship that seems to work for him. Do I love it no but we knew it was coming for the Lakers. They really have to manage the health of this team because so many of their big pieces are either oft injured guys or guys that are over thirty years old. Who are more likely to get hurt that to me is the biggest story of the Lakers? Because now they'll defend. They seem to have enough shooting reading and the Broadening d work together quite well a modern day travelers know that luggage is the foundation of any successful getaway. That's why I'm all about away suitcases. You'll truly appreciate Asia. 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Well let's welcome the men. He's the head coach of eastern Michigan. And he he's been there since Manson's two thousand even there that long one hundred and forty four games. He's also a new author as an amazing kind of life journey. He's Rob Murphy joins us on the all ball. podcast coach. How are you? I'm pretty good. Thanks for having me. I've been here nine years now Going into year nine here at Eastern Michigan. I'm excited about it and things are going. Well you know it's interesting. We're about the same age a couple of years older than me. You remember like eastern my. I have like two Eastern Michigan Memories from my lifetime right one is the NCAA determined run with Republican. And the other was before I think it was before that was. ABCD camp was. They're going into my junior your year right so I've been on campus. I've been in the dorms back then. The Field House didn't have air conditioning. It was it it was a it was a ways back as a as somebody who who grew up in Detroit. Michigan like. What's is that is eastern Michigan home? Is this for me yes. Thirty minutes You know from Detroit where I grew up. I actually signed with Eastern Michigan to play Football here I was a really good football player coming out of high school. I didn't score high enough on the act or sat at the last minute so I had to take another route and chose to play division to basketball so for me Two thousand eleven. It became full circle for me to be back here and be a part of eastern Michigan and be at home. Yeah you have a fascinating ending life tail and I want to get into your book. Get into your journey and you know some of some of the stops along the way but but what part of Detroit did you grow up in on the west side of Detroit You know I wanted to Low Income Areas Dexter Davidson areas. Where I started and we moved over to seven mile in your area and then to seven mile and shape for area but the west of Detroit? you know and I and I wouldn't change it You know for for nothing. My upbringing in my experiences were tough But I turned all of that Pain in the in the power and they kind of used it to. My advantage continued to navigate through life. okay so what's the west side known for like you know there's there's different parts. I grew up in southern California right. Orange County was known as being more Kinda Lily White and soft right. Even though you had and Mike Hopkins I know a friend of yours like Mike is anything but soft right eastside. Los Angeles is mostly Hispanic West side of Los Angeles's his Jewish right. So I'm just going. West side of Detroit is known as what Just the motor city is known as You know you put your heart hat on. It's a lot of rough areas so you you have to bring a lot of toughness to To navigate through that neighborhood You know what we were known for early on. I happened to go to my high school. And and Eddie Murphy put us on the map and when he wore Alfred t shirt in Beverly Hills Cop So we always take credit for Eddie Murphy being one of our own But the West. I was known as a you know. Your hard work is to navigate through there. And you gotta be tough to come out of there. I don't recommend a ton of books by one of the reasons I had you on when you when I saw what your book was about about and I started to read about I was like wow. This is amazing to kind of bare. Your soul. So okay you grow up in the west side You only met your dad twice. Right is that that's right. That's correct. What what what what? What do you remember about those meetings? I don't remember Even in how he looked To be honest with you they were very quick meetings and remember the last time I remember going to To meet him and my mother took me it was I was about three and a half four years old and he wouldn't come out of an apartment complex I can remember him looking down And wouldn't come down but my mom almost I believe stopping by to get some money from him or something and he kinda threw a bag out of the window with some money in it. And that's the last site I've ever had in my dad and I was four years old at the time so Being in a single parent home at that at time you know my mother a Lotta Carolina love But it was it was really rough. Okay so then So then your uncle was selling drugs and your mom's basement. Well yeah well well. I came from a family who who was around the environment of drugs and alcohol and You know my family. I mean obviously was was involved with a lot of those situations relations and You know my uncle who was taking care of me at the time who was pretty much my father figure my mother's brother was into a lot of different Illegal illegal activities And you know as you begin to get older you learn about that and you see it. you tend to mimic it or try to copy it Before for me I had had my little league coaches because my mother kept me in the sports and kept me away from you know tough times in the hard times as much as she could literally coaches again you know show me a different different life and and and put me in a different lane along. My high school coach continued to To embrace me and Kinda give me You know the importance ends of education. And and how athletics can help save my life if I just listened in and was culture boy and that's what I was able to do okay but we are kind of burying the lead a little bit in that so your uncle's involved in illegal activities but then you found out your your mom was actually kind of overseeing it like she was like almost like the kingpin linkin right. Yeah Yeah you know. It's funny dog because you when you when you think back when I started writing this book You know one memory leads to the next memory and before you know what you got ten twelve memories in the first chapter And you know as unfortunate as the situation was you know my mom lost her life and tragic murder twenty nine years old. I was thirteen But during those times when I was growing up and you know obviously learning her involvement and understood stood how much he was involved in it and how she ran it I still sometimes can't grasp a young woman Being pregnant with me at the age of fifteen having having me at sixteen A week after her her fifteenth Her Sixteenth Birthday and being nineteen twenty twenty one being being a part of illegal activities but also being the leader in in a legal activities Is Still Baffling to me At at that age how she was able to navigate the gate and do a really really good job to the best of her ability To keep me and my younger brothers away from it as much as she could. That's a remarkable. You mentioned. You're literally coaches in your your high school basketball coach. who was the most influential? Who because your as you point out you were a great football player and I want to get to some some of the other stuff with football but who who have you said like this is the guy who saved me? Who would have it would be Venus Jordan that was my high school coach coach Met Him when I was in the tenth grade he took over at Mumford. High School And he is the one that kind of pulled to the side he said You know you know rob your leader. You communicate okay. Well whatever group of guys you're with they follow you But if you can channel that to the positive group and You know in in continue to do the the right things in life. You can go a long way so my senior year. I had signed to play football here at Eastern Michigan and when I didn't pass the Act He told me to You know go to college I may help you to another school Which essentially State University said I want you to major in education? I want you to come back here and teaching Detroit Public School System. I'm going to save my high school job for you once you graduate from college. I'm going to save his job for you and you can come back here and Start Teaching and coaching. So so he gave me the vision. He gave me the direction took his advice. I majored in education. Once I graduated I came back to Detroit and started teaching and coaching now. At that time I never even envisioned myself. Coaching the college level. I was the first one in my family to go to To graduate from High School to Attend College Graduate From College so being a teacher and a high school coach was the end. All be all from where I was from So I was excited to do that but it was my high school coach. Who gave me vision and direction at a young age Ah Okay Central State. Isn't that like kind of in the middle of nowhere. Yeah whatever forces in Ohio Fortunately for me I chose that school at the last minute. My coach have relationships where he connected me with Kevin Porter who was a NBA a former NBA point guard at the time whose head coach at Central State University so he gave me the opportunity opportunity to play for him And be able to play for former. NBA Player was intriguing to me but even the things that he went through in life And the challenges he had from high school to college and going to the NBA and and being blackballed actually from some of his activities He kind of taught taught me a lot as well but he gave me that opportunity And I thank him for it to this day. You mentioned your mom died when you're thirteen year only met your dad twice. I mean your high school coaches. Gardening is guiding you but like how. Where did this drive and for people who don't like this? We'll get to the. I want to continue to get to the book and to other parts of the journey. But you wrote the book yourself. This is not like hey I hired a ghost. Rider sat in a room he recorded and then he kind of filled in all the blanks. Like you sat down like you're incredibly incredibly driven person to succeed in obviously in in sports and in life you have your own foundation which preaches education in reading. But like this is how when you're fourteen and you have no mom and you have no dad and the people around you kind of protected you there have all their. We're involved in legal activity. Like how do you not get involved in that. You're the west side of Detroit. How did you stay on the straight narrow? I it's it's the the toughest thing doug and I talk about the angels and I and I those angels were You know my high school coach even the friends my peers guys. That were a few years is older than me. For for whatever reason They always tell me that I was destined to do great things. I don't know how my high school coach and how even my peers years would think or feel that way. Obviously I was really good in Little League football basketball and baseball at the time but I was always encouraged to stay. They away from it But I always wanted to hang around that group because that's who I was around. I was living with my grandmother. I still have my uncle I think the Cottrell Fam- I'm in Washington family. Those are two families that during my journey. Allow me to live with them. But I still was Kinda my own person who was making my own decisions So fortunately for me me You know I've I've Kinda grasp you know the activities in which my mother was involved with. I understand. That was the environment and that's all she she knew and my family knew But at the same time I always thought it was a bigger picture always watched you know the Dallas cowboys and the San Francisco. Forty niners liners in the playoffs. And I visited myself one day plan. NFL football and then as I continue to watch high school basketball you know I started my love started with Syracuse Basketball Squad. Because of Derrick Coleman so we're always Watching you know the athletes and I said man it has to be a better life for me in the future. I don't WanNa go down the same aim road at some of the folks that I see you know going to prison or losing their lives to senseless crimes And continued to be my peers in my high school coach. who kind of just took hold of me and said you know you you your special your leader you communicate well And you're gonNA do great things. I don't know how they saw all right but I listened in Try to continue to do the right thing. You finish up at central state of and you did come back and coach and teach in high school but like this is like right out of high school right out of college right so you three I think. Twenty two twenty three years old. Yes yes at the time I I graduated And that was like an accomplishment. I one in my family to attend college and graduate from college so immediately You know I came back home. I took my my head High School Coaches Vice Coast. Jordan's advice in you know. Apply to be a teacher and educator in the Detroit Public School system and when I did that I had probably ten offers teaching jobs Because of the lack of of African American male teachers As as being in the school who system so I took the opportunity. There started coaching at Central High School I was very very fortunate early in my coaching career. Running to a guy by the name Antonio Gates He was sixteen at the time and Junior in high school him and Dante Darling. So that those guys got my by coaching Career we're off to a great start You know right away Planning the state finals and then as following year planning winning the State Championship with those guys and then moving on the Crockett in high school and and coach and Maurice Ager there and went in another state championship. So between those Winning Environments College coaches would would come in so at that time. Perry Harry Watson you know. He opened his door For me to learn a lot from him and Tommy Anchor. Being the head coach at Michigan and Brian L. A. B. Right before him and coach. Tom Izzo Has Been a tremendous help to me throughout my career. But those guys here locally Kinda opened their doors for me as a young coach for me to learn You know how much more basketball and then what the college game was all about. And I built a lot of relationships. Through recruiting of those student athletes. I was coaching so when an opportunity came up it can in state. I was able to get that opportunity. Are you going to try to go to the gym tomorrow. How long will it take to get there? Will the equipment you WANNA use be available. Do you know what exercises you're going to do. Do you know what would be easier than all of this working out at home. Tunnel is a smart at home gym. 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Trevor Hoffman those guys through there as well often often right like that. That was his guys squad. Their kids missed him by one year. 'cause I went there right after they went to the elite eight With Trevor and Andrew and Antonio Gates hates lay at that Team elite eight. And I was able to go there the following year when Stan Heath went to Arkansas Jim Christian gave me a great opportunity. Okay so Antonio Gates in high high school player Monster The guy was multidimensional Can shoot it from the outside was great off the bounce was exceptional passer asser On assuming because he was about to thirty five to forty and he was kind of Chevy at the time but he was a great player. I remember in in the summer going You know in to senior year. He was in Vegas. And I'll never forget him playing against cory. McGinty and the Michigan mustangs time. Beat Corey Magadan team and In the In the The tournament in Vegas. They had a big time and then from there he continued to be great as a basketball player. But Nick statement at the time was Michigan Washington State Recruited him to play football and everybody told him he had a future there. He didn't love it But he just went to Michigan State to play football. I didn't work out. He he loved basketball so much. He bounced around and ended up at Kent State making that run and and you know going to the NFL as a free agent in arrest history. Do you think an an and I did a podcast. I grew up playing with Tony Gonzalez and I don't think I think Tony would play in this. NBA In the small small ball NBA. But now Tony was kind of the same thing in terms of being a monster crazy competitor crazy athlete but he did. He was not a great passer her. He just wasn't he just. He just out competed people for the basketball at either end of the floor when you when you look at dream on like in this. NBA Would Antonio Gates work. Yeah he would work and he would be a better draymond green. It's funny you You you bring up draymond green because when drawing mom was at Saginaw high school everybody. Nobody would compare him to Antonio Gates and people didn't really believe because he wasn't a high love recruit. They always say mom was undersized. He couldn't really shoot any wasn't that quick but he was very versatile And he could pass the ball and more importantly added a he has the heart of a lion and he was a winner and he always wanted to high school level. which translated insulated onto Michigan State? And it has continued to translate on To the Golden State Warriors. Tonio was draymond green but much better as a passer In a score and the same type of toughness I two thousand four how'd you get the Syracuse job. Oh man this is. I think troy weaver over to this day You know the vice president of the Oklahoma Thunder one Sunday. was sitting at home and I got a incoming cargoes private. I had an next how phone I'll never forget and it was troy weaver. I happen to just answer the phone. I wasn't going to answer the phone. Dogs it's true story. I looked at my phone. Like incoming CAU-. Aw So tell me the flip. The next how is trey. We've on the line and coach. Troy Troy Troy Weaver Syracuse. So so I'm all. Wow what's up at the time that me and sure I knew each other but we didn't have a relationship we just knew each other through. Maybe saying each other on the road He asked me that. I have an interest interesting coming to Syracuse. So many I thought he was talking about a basketball camp. Or you know. I didn't know I'm like sure what's going on. He said well I'm GonNa take an NBA job here in the next seventy two hours And I'm looking for a young guy with relationships to continue to help coach behind you know lead this program and helped coach and so I said wow so yes sure I would have an interest. So when is this all going to happen. He said well. You'll have to come on an interview you this week. I'm GonNa Talk to coach tomorrow. He'll Costco's Christian and give permission to speak with you and then we'll get the ball rolling so you know I couldn't sleep that night. Doug I was up all night i. I went into my office Monday morning behind. Car Coach Christian got permission Cosby Him. Call me Ten minutes later I had a great conversation with him. On that Monday I flew to Syracuse that Wednesday. I was there for thirty minutes and he said welcome to Syracuse. So I'm forever thankful for Troy forever thankful for coach behind for giving me a life changing opportunity. And even you know coach behind you know in today's world especially at high level. BCS Schools Schools with tradition and history. They hire guys who play there. If you look at Syracuse staff now They have all former players the same with Duke and most places like that so he took another chance on an outsider. And I think me and troy are the only two guys. It maybe have worked for Kobe on that are not syracuse alum. So for him to believe in me and give me that life changing opportunity to start with Roy but him believing in me bomb. I'm forever thankful Bob Pretty Pretty Amazing experience. It's You guys you guys had so many great runs while you're there who. Who is the player who you felt like you connected with the most? I connected with a ton of guys started with teamwork and jocks Josh Pace You know those guys were seniors at the time They came into the pro. I came into the program. They were already established. They were national champions. Josh Pace came work. A singers accepted me. They allow me to coach them. They allow me to Get them better on the courts. I'm forever thankful for them to make in my transition very easy as an assistant coach at that level and then we recruited a host of players. Yes At that time but I think the closest player hours with maybe to what be Dante Green and Chris Joseph those two guys in particular with two of my favorites and through the recruitment process with Dante learning about his His childhood and losing his mom an early age we were able to talk more about life in where he was and and how how he was trying to help raise his little brother living with his grandmother So between him and Chris Jellison on a to Connected with the most but it was a family atmosphere Adair. And you know every guy that you know we helped goes behind recruit We all got along. We did a tremendous job. Dante's an interesting one because I remember member talking with coach about it when he declared for the NBA draft. You only played one year. It's your Houston the first round pick and and there was you like yeah. He really should stay but he has his family to take care of right I think he was born. He was an Air Force Brat. Relatively mom was yes for sure. You know 'cause Ben Hamad Kinda talked him into coming back. It would have been beneficial for Dante. you know and I gave him the same advice but obviously You know the student athletes You know after that first year and you've McDonald American and you see everybody in your class. You know one and done and then Dante went to the same high school as Carmelo so He was following that same. The same footsteps Carmelo from Baltimore attending tiles thousand Catholic and now he's choosing Syracuse. So He's you know he wants to come in and be one and done just like Carmelo Anthony. Unfortunately he wasn't good as Carmelo Anthony but he was good enough to play in the NBA. I think he would have been better off staying another year to mature a little bit more. Tighten up his game. Nothing that woulda helped him last longer or have a longer career in the NBA. But he's a great young man. He's still making money playing basketball and he talks about going back to you and to get his education education. Yeah I mean it's it's a really hard one right like how do you tell somebody 'cause 'cause if the goal is the NBA draft the NBA. Then it's hard to talk you out of that on the other hand you like. Look man if you could just wait a year if I wait a year. You know. There's there's there's all these other things that could go wrong and I know it's a it's an especially especially with the family things and take care of his brother. It's an incredibly hard one. Okay so go ahead. No go ahead. No I was saying you know just the pressures to Oh. I'm trying to follow the guys in your class comes Syracuse and followed Carmelo Anthony Success and then you have a million agents and a half million. Outsiders continue into beat. You up and tell you why you should leave because they don't have your best interests at heart during those times. 'cause they just trying to figure out how they can get to you or you can get to the NBA and they can make money money and everybody kind of wants to be a part of you know the millionaire so you know what everybody tugging on them You know he made a decision I just thought he probably could have benefited from one more year. And you know we we can go into this later if you have the time but the stipend Was Not even in place at that time because if we could if Dante could even get the eighteen the two thousand dollars that my student athletes here at Eastern Michigan get every month That would have been money in his pocket where he wouldn't have had to just rush and go pro to make money. Yeah I mean I looked I think the stipend is a good thing I do but I mean you know. Are you fighting over two thousand. No one's going to say like okay. I'd rather have make two thousand dollars and stay in school than going. Make five hundred thousand dollars a million dollars playing the NBA. Though that I do agree with Doug but at the same time that two to three times because we couldn't give player I anything being at that he would get Appel right so you get Appel which is like six thousand which is yeah I mean and the because he wasn't I don't know if he's listed as apparent like your. You need a little bit more but I agree that the cost of attendance of the stipend is a is a is a big thing but I also think that you know it's it's chump change in comparison to like you said what they're being told is out there for them and then you try and have a legit conversation with I'm GonNa look I get that you can make five hundred thousand or a million for a couple of years if you leave now but if you stay a year you can make two or three million and then make fifty to one hundred million dollars if you like you said. Tighten up your game but it's a really hard thing for a kid even if you're giving them a stipend you know what I mean. I do agree with you. What a kid like Dante anti and hit a situation he probably would have stayed given the cost of attendance? Check and the Pale and all the You know occasional meals and snacks and in pre and post game meals. He would have been fine. You can't sell everything every kid on that Dante was one of the better kids that and you know Syracuse basketball. I mean it's exciting exciting and it's fun and it's her college the best time of your life I don't care how much money you're GonNa make in the NBA. And he kind of understood that but to be able to offer him nothing It was a tough deal. So that's when he made a decision to Lee. Yeah no I mean and I remember. I remember the all-star break the next year he was back there sitting courtside and I I just I just think like all those all those guys come back like man thirty thousand people everybody cares about you. It is it is it is a hard trade you lost Marquette in two thousand eleven in the second round that ended up being your last game as a coach at Syracuse. What take me through the process of how you got the eastern job? Well first of all I was one of the toughest losses Doing my ten year. US Syracuse. We thought we had a team. I could make a run and you know marquette with Jae crowder and Jimmy Butler and those guys they were really really tough and it was tough for us to be matched up against. It's another biggies opponent in the second round As well so I hope they beat us. That was a tough loss. And then at that point We were going back to the drawing board brought to you know. Get better for next year and the first opportunity came to Kent State Opening Because Gino Ford went to Bradley so the job opened up At the final four I interviewed for that job It came down to me and Rob Cinder off. Maybe someone else. But I didn't get that job I really wanted it Antonio Tony of gays got involved and I thought I did well in my interview But he crush me when I when I didn't get the job and then a week later. That's that's that's that's a hard hard thing like I. I haven't been involved in as many as you were involved in. But when you really think you got got Antonio Gates you've been there before you know you got you got Detroit on lock your count from Syracuse. You guys have had an incredible amount of success. You know your respect to guy in the profession and I I know a quick turnaround between that and Eastern. But what was that like for you to not get a job that I'm sure you went to sleep at night the night before you found out you weren't getting it thinking I'm GonNa get this thing. I was crushed doug to be honest with the things you just mentioned working for Hall of Fame Coach Having Success at the highest level being can stay for two years and both years. We were in the post this season. helping deliver one of the best players. Have not the best player. In the history of basketball there'd be Antonio Gates getting him involved in his big time donation to the leading department Everything was pointing in my direction But I also understood Rob Center off being there as well because he was my roommate made on the road and somebody that was really really close to me so we were going up against each other for the job so he ended up getting a job but I was still crushed Because I wanted that opportunity at at that time You know I can remember You know for couple days just being disappointed and and wondering what I ever get another great opportunity that fit me because everybody wants to be a head coach but you WanNa get a job that fits you that you can be successful and you don't WanNa take any job especially when you're Syracuse. I was crushed but a week later eastern Michigan opened up and that was really challenging to just get an interview process You know immediately you know my my agent Carr to To gauge the interest of meat. Just a candidate and I was turned down. They told me no. I couldn't get in the pool so so I couldn't understand that with me being thirty minutes from home You know as a job I I I wanted even better than I wanNA can stay now. I'm at home and the program is at a at a certain level and at that time the bottom of the Mac and I felt it was a perfect opportunity to go in there and grind in. You Know Bring Eastern Michigan Basketball to relevancy as it was once before so I couldn't get an interview process. I remember talking to coach behind. He caught coach. I call Dave being for me. Who was his college roommate? Who's the mayor married? Detroit at the time Dave made a few calls and I was able to at least get myself into pool So it was ten candidates and I was the only African American in the pool and I was told. And I'm being very very candid and honest. I was told that they did not want to hire the exact same person they had. Just hired. Meaning Coast Ramsey Charles Fifty Michigan again. he was from Michigan. He was actually from insularity and he was African American and so I think they wanted to go away from then. Assistant coach got a high level school that was from the area. They want somebody with head coaching experience. Already they just wanted to go in a different direction so I was telling I couldn't get in the pool so after you you know. They've been helped automate a few calls and I kept pushing different buttons. They finally called back and said okay. We'll put you in the pool so I said okay. Fine interview started on Monday Monday Unfortunately I didn't hear my agent. I didn't hear back from anybody until Thursday. So that time You know I was at home. I told my wife I said you know what I I'm. I'm not I'M GONNA take myself out of this I'm just GonNa concentrate on Syracuse basketball and continue to do what I'm I'm doing it. This was Thursday so my my fall rings maybe two and a half three hours later It was my agent and said you know what they finally put you in the pool. But here's the thing you gotTa Flou- Tomorrow Your interview Saturday morning at eight. AM president has to go to graduations. So they're you're GonNa just slip you in interview. You and you can sauce mansion. I even do that. It sounds like you know they're completed they're interviews and I'm just going because for HR purposes. I'm in this pool So I said man I didn't make too many calls. I got too many people onboard helping me. Now I'm just GonNa go for the experience and you know so i. I told him I wouldn't be there. I'll fly there. Friday fly here Friday on checking the Marriott's and I call Kobe at midnight. Friday the midnight now. My interview is at eight. Am GonNa pick me up at seven thirty am so as coast as you talk to the president and he talked to her she. Didn't you know go either way. Okay but she says she was excited to meet you tomorrow. And he told me said look you have a great job here Syracuse. You know you go in there and you say what you WanNa say you pretty much much interview them Because they need you more than you need them they just don't know it but just going there and if you don't get the job come back here and you got one of the greatest jobs in America and you just stay here here. We continue to work to get you another job whether it's next year this year whenever so having that talk with coach Bay Heim Friday night before going in there at eight. AM was great. Because I took a different approach mentally I say to myself. I'm just GonNa go in here and tell them how I feel and whatever happens happens because I'm already believed that I'm just in this. You know interview pool just to For HR purposes. So I go in there and interview with the president last asked about thirty minutes It went great She was impressed. probably surprised at my presentation and my book that I went through with her. And I remember leaving Her and then going and speaking with the board of regents was eight. You know regions around the table. Why did the same thing in there and they were impressed and by the time I got to the AD said well your name is buzzing around here Kind of walk me through what you've shown them and how you can build eastern Michigan Basketball and I did the same thing with him I ended up leaving a landed in Washington. DC because I left there to just continue to recruit to Syracuse. Because I didn't think I can get a job already have plans to go see some guys in and My phone ring. I was at hurts and it was athletic director. Dare Greg at a time said Hey I think I want to offer you Our head coaching position. So we talked walked and I accepted the job. Forty eight hours later. And I've been here ever since Rob Murphy in thirteen years before you got there. The only two winning winning seasons at Eastern. Obviously you've you've turned out around you know you've had three twenty plus win seasons but they're still kind of a next step right and I. I thought I thought last year. With Paul Jackson allows you many and James Thomson. I thought last year would would be the year. Why wasn't it a year We we we didn't play as teamed up You know we had a great year the year before We lost him. Kim Bond who I thought was the Glue Guy who people didn't realize Was Very impactful for our team. It was defensive player of the year. you got a lot versatility with those guys coming back. The challenge for us was to stick with the we over me concept and that summer guys but their name and they draft asked they were getting caused by agents telling them what they needed to work on or what they needed to do if they return to school so when James and he lies decided to return under school they were more thinking about what I what do I need to do to get to the NBA. This is my last year so I ran into a lot of that So I had to coach every practice and every game. But it's not about you. And even par Jackson had a chance to go and make money playing basketball. People were telling him as my point guard what he needed to do and I told those guys know. We need to do what we did last year and the previous year and winning take care takes care of everything if we we just win. It doesn't matter what your numbers are But those guys never really bought into that They were kind of indifferent about even coming back to school. Ooh and then when they came back they were thinking about themselves so it was a tough year You can't win that way. Buying unfortunately for us we had to learn the hard way You mentioned calling Jim Boeheim at midnight which which is awesome. That was so engaged in and picked up What's what's the most interesting thing about? Coach Bay Heim that only people who have worked for him now You know he's a great guy. Doc I mean you know he always has has that blank stare or people see him get on officials or get on the players But he's a family man. He's a great husband he's a great father I remember For three months I I had a chance to actually live. Because behind my house was being built in Syracuse. Didn't finish on time. And we saw it our house previously and him and his wife opened up their doors for my wife and me and my wife in our children at the time to to live with them for those three months in to that those three months months I really really seen the love and care. that he gives to his wife and his children how he jokes You know how he just loves to talk whether it's basketball Whether it's different subjects about life but he's a great mentor and a Great Guy and I'm so appreciative. Obvious obviously the opportunity but of him just opening up his family to my family and always making us. You know feel like we had Was a part of family. Syracuse Major League Shit Talker. That's you're you're skipping over and and I don't think people would like Major League Shit talker and it's an he's he's no. You have no chance golf on the basketball floor on the golf course. Wherever he's a big time shit talker but talks but he he's a competitor duck? He wants to win. And you I I I hate to say by any means necessary. Because it's Syracuse everything above board art. But he wants to win and everything and he wants to be right about everything But that's just a part of this competitive spirit But that's that's the reason that he's been able to be Syracuse and have the success. He's half a forty four years Is actually unbelievable. When you look back at over the years and the challenges How resilient and and how you know good he has continued to be Over the course of these many years and again I can't thank them enough for giving me a life changing opportunity. When was the last time you watched your home movies if you're like most there's a box in your closet videotapes film reels and photos? That don't get watched worse. They're degrading. Hi I'm nick. I'm Adam ten years ago we started legacy box to help families convert their aging media to digital. Here's how it works. 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They won the National Championship. I was before I know you got there. Put but the Gerry McNamara run like there. There was something just frigging magical and there is something about cues in the garden in the Big East Tournament and it's obviously obviously not there anymore. What was that like to do you remember about the Gerry? McNamara experiements are well for us. We had a tough year and I can remember the last game of the season going to the last two games. We lost to Paul by forty at Depaul won. The Pole wasn't really good. got crushed and then we came back home for senior in your day and we lost the Villanova and they have randy foy and all those guys Kyle Lori Alan Ray. They had a hell of a team and they crushed on senior day which which is geared Gerry McNamara. Senior Day so it was real gloomy around Syracuse at that time but we went into the big east tournament. And that's I three. He made to beat Cincinnati Was was unbelievable. I can remember him coming to the bench and I was the first one that greeted them and they went to the scores table. Well and I said are you sure you was behind. The line. Murphy was behind the line game over. I said are you game over I was I was behind the line so we knew we would be moving on and just from there the way we we won We just got our energy back. We got our life back with that one shot that one make and then from there just seems like everything continued to fall into place We couldn't do anything wrong. And Jerry was unbelievable leader. He hit all it always shots. At the end of those games too you know propel us to the Big East Championship. But even his point guard play and his leadership at the time. was incredible. And all the the guy's body and and we rallied around him and him being a senior We wanted to send him out the right way. So he wasn't credible Coach was incredible doing that. Run and we were very fortunate to win a big tournament championship and gone and participate in the NC Double A. Tournament. How are you different now as a head coach than you were when you first took the eastern cat just having more patience having more understanding You know we're in a a now world we never really live even the moment Someone who became head coach. I you know I was looking at the next job because that was what everyone said. You should do oh well. Eastern Michigan is the steppingstone job You supposed to win and leave in two or three years and do something different so I had a couple of NBA offers which you know. I was intrigued with and that was a big the first few years. And then I start thinking about you know winning here and and moving on but then I you know start thinking about my purpose You you know of. Why am I in this spot And why AM I. Why did I get this job? And you know I started my foundation in two thousand fourteen which has impacted the lives of a lot of underprivileged youth and families in Detroit in here and if Cellini community So I began to think differently. This was a dream job for me. I'm thirty minutes away from home home so I just you know. Put two feet in the cement here and said I was going to build this program and I was here to stay so I've just learned have more patients focus on the now and not so much the future you WanNa plan And be a few years ahead and that's what successful people do. But for the most part I've had more patients than I've lived in the moment omen and the most important thing for me has been eastern Michigan basketball. So if I'm here for another fifteen years and it's great if I do something different and we and I move on. That's great but just having patients living in coaching in the moment to make sure I can give student athletes H and everything. I can Every single day it. I'm here I know considering your upbringing your family and being a parent is incredibly important to you. So how do you balance that. You can technically set your own schedule Agile. How do you like your day when you practice when you meet? How do you have your family time so that you can do your job both at home and at work or during during the season you know obviously doug is extremely extremely tough Because you WANNA put everything into winning every single basketball game Obviously you know the last eight seasons we've graduated thirty out of thirty two of our student athletes so we're doing well in the academic department but obviously my job is to win basketball games regardless so doing the season. It's tough We you know you know. Spend time and talking to my kid. It's seven fifteen eight o'clock they go to school I may work for forty five minutes to our office at nine fifteen we have meetings You know whether it's breakdown of practice breakdown down the next opponent You know after that we kind of break our time before we practice at one thirty how we practice for a few hours we may have some guy. I shoot afterwards That we may meet again as a staff and I allow my staff to go spend time with with family because it is important but in season We put everything thing in our life to win each and every basketball game and that takes a lot because we have to spend time with our players You know we have the N. B. Room talk now when my book came out you know obviously I knew it was going to impact life live different lives around the country for more importantly I wanted it to impact back our student athletes here so we have the ballroom talk where we call it going into the lab where we talk life athletics basketball and I think that's really beneficial and to you know help in our student. Athletes continue to grow and evolve into who they're becoming while they're here with me in order for them to be successful when they leave us so family time is limited during the season a lot more in the off season but always keep everything into perspective Because you WANNA give love to your family you WanNa give love to your your second confound the here which ought to eastern Michigan Eagles and I think we have a great balance you mentioned your boardroom. Talk and you you. You're a mentor. To so many people it is interesting. A and look I know that we both we have different perspectives on the NCAA thing whatever. But I I think that the part that gets massively undersold by people in my business is the importance of college. And the relationships look you pointed out like Syracuse Jim Boeheim Higher Syracuse. This guy's like the we undersell when you go to college. You're now part of that university family and that basketball family and one is important important because so many people come from either split families or you know all different sorts of family units but too. Because that's really your future whereas if you skip over that process now when basketball stops the only thing you have is NBA or G. League those the only connections that you have. And there's just a limited number of jobs there but I I think the part that gets undersold the most is how so many coaches and maybe not to level that you do invest in these players to help mentor them. Now and into the future with all your friends in coaching I would. I would say having your own foundation writing sharing your story. I think you're probably at the highest level in terms of of how important mentorship is your players. But do you think maybe this feels like a setup question but do you think we in the media do a good job of explaining what the college experience truly is outside of just the Basketball Games twice or three times a week. I don't it's never really talked about because it all comes down to Obviously the big schools The NCWA tournament the Games that are on TV So we don't really talk about what goes on behind the scenes You know for me. for what you know how I was brought up an environment and and the challenges and obstacles You know I think it's important for us coaches to spend more time outside the court with our student athletes You know you would hope and what I've learned you you would hope that they would just learn it Just through basketball through film through the practice travel Just them being in the team team. the team atmosphere But I think we need to take a step further and really really spend time and get to know our student. Athletes so we talk in our boardroom about leadership you know obviously accountability Mindset decision making how to be resilient and I allow my guys to talk to tell me what's on their mind because I wanna get to know them. I think their teammates should get to know them. And it's interesting you know. We had one Forty eight hours ago. And you know the ZAC. Winston situation happened which was really unfortunate in you know. Obviously everybody is kinda rallied around caches. And you know his family With what happened with his brother But it was interesting just to get the feedback from what some of my guys felt. Because you don't know what our student athletes are going through. It can be depression. can be anxiety it can be so many things that we know. That's not talked about. It's not hurt and even in my book Have you even go to pace thirty two. I talk about the being alone dysfunction. How I mask everything and didn't really tell anybody how I felt day-to-day with what I was going through? I would just you know go to school and this was. I was talking about the time I was in high school So nobody really asked me. Oh you know what I was going through or I've seen my high school coach looked after me but we didn't have deep deep deep conversations so For me to kind of have understanding of what somebody maybe going through and and not really tell it. I think we just need to Spend more town when I got guys outside of the court. So I've kind of setup this venue for us to come in and talk about anything and everything that's on their mind. It can be girlfriends. Academic Struggle Depression and in our last boardroom. Guy Says some interesting things which helped me better understand where they come from and what they may be going through and I'm able to help them and lead them To wear may not end up being a tragic situation and they know they have me and my staff half here to to support him through anything you mentioned that in the pool the hiring pool at at. Amu you're the only African American candidate and obviously you're replacing. Charles Rams used in African American head coach. It's like inside locker. Rooms and coaches offices races racist race is discussed but I think differently than the rest of the world. I just I wonder. And and this is an honest question is is do you think we've reached the point in college basketball. Where race of a coach doesn't matter like we're actual accomplishments matter? We've got because there is something there is something loaded there where hey we want a guy with head coaching experience. Well okay. That does trim down the number number of African American candidates in your pool right because more white coaches have gotten more opportunities so it might not be it might there might not be a might might not intentionally be racist or whatever or limiting but it is in terms of the percentage of potential candidates. Right so I just. I having experienced it now as a head coach for nine years. Have we gotten to that point where we're race Doesn't matter no I don't. I don't think we'll get to that point anytime soon. Doug if you just you know look at the opportunities. It's not a lot of African American African American head coaches which is You know at the division level. I mean I I believe if given opportunity like a fair opportunity You know you'll see more But I don't I don't I don't WanNa say it's racist What I what I understood about me? Being in the pool at Eastern Michigan is that they just didn't want the same type of profile that they just hired I came in and wanted to job and obviously I was hired here so I don't think it was a racist situation nation at that time but I think if you just look at the percentages of how many African Americans are in the position whether it's the college level at the professional level We don't get those same opportunities and just to take it a step further. I mean I've been here nine years I'm the lowest pay coach in this Conference my staff out of lowest paid assistant coaches and support staff in our conference I don't like to think that it's because of the color of my skin but at the same time I'm not compensated as much as maybe somebody you know coaching at another school Of a different race so for me. I just do my job at a high level. I don't really think about those situations because I'm fortunate to be in this situation And throughout You know my You Know College experience. Since I left Highschool Jim Christian gave me unbelievable opportunity. Jim Boeheim gave me an unbelievable opportunity and then sue Martin and Dr Greg Who was athletic director here at the time gave me a great opportunity? So I tell people you know you have to be in position and to get the opportunity and when you get your opportunity you gotta make the best of it black white or indifferent But we don't get these opportunities which is really really sad? The the most I don't want to the best the most challenging coach that you faced in the Mac is who it would be coached. Keep Dan Bright. But he's no longer in the Mac he's a at Duquesne now but his teams You know always ah more efficient offensively and they play really really good defense He did a phenomenal job during his tenure in a Mac and is the reason that where he was able to To get a bigger job the one thing you feel like you need to do better as coach just continued to to learn Any volve I think we do a really good job here. A running offense zone or man are spacing is really good We had twenty three assists in our first game. And Twenty in our game last night So it just shows my team I is bought into each other. They turn it on good shots for great shots And if we can continue to do that Offensively we were really good basketball team. The book is a phenomenon it's called deep. I encourage you to go out and pick it up up Amazon or wherever you wherever you order books. He's Rob Murphy. And he's the head coach of eastern Michigan coach. I know you've got a game tomorrow night. You had one last night. I appreciate you fitness in your schedule. Your journey is amazing. By the way you're GonNa Rob Murphy Foundation Dot Org for more information coach. Thanks so much join us and thanks grabbed me. Doug are greatly appreciated. You've always been good to me. So thanks for having me on. Be Sure to catch the live edition of the Doug. GOTTLIEB show weekdays at three PM Eastern noon Pacific. Hey thanks for listening to the All podcast make sure you listen to my daily radio. Show three to six eastern Pacific Fox. Sports Radio iheartradio LAP or Siriusxm to seventeen or two or three. I'm Doug Gottlieb and you have been listening to album doc. It's not your fault you have achieved your diet and exercise goals. Chances are argued been following bad advice. Well enough is enough. It's time for you to listen to the experts and get real results. I'm Tom Holland. 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Team To Beat?

PTI

22:10 min | 7 months ago

Team To Beat?

"There's crispy and then there's crispy dryer new and improved Tyson crispy chicken strips crispy just got crispy emotion. But I'm Mike Wilbon is national workplace. Napping Day Tony Fall Asleep on the job and Tony Kornheiser sadly yes but only when you're talking good more airtime to me. Yes that's you know what? That is a great deal does because I like to think that the fewer words I say it makes my salaries seem so if you can take all the time that's the TV professionals because they care about face tunnel here. We don't give a you know a lot about that we're going to. Pti boys and girls in today's episode. The Nets fired their coach some. Nfl owners still won eighteen games and the rams appeared avenue logo. But we begin today with the best possible weekend. Los Angeles Lakers could have hoped for. They beat the best team in the Eastern Conference Milwaukee on Friday and they beat the second best team in their own western conference the Clippers yesterday and they had not beaten either of these teams. All season will bind you. Were there are the Lakers now? Clearly the team to beat Tony. No I I have a head of Milwaukee but I'M NOT GONNA put him ahead of the clippers. I UNDERSTAND THEY WANNA game so another one and to get the clippers with one game to go there. I'm not sure it's going to really matter. You know just before the playoffs. But the reason I'm not GonNa have as the team to beat singularly is that I don't know the clippers. Yesterday they have these new thirty games. They haven't they. Sorta sleepwalk through the early parts of nine point lead at one point. Lebron was great. Yeah the Anthony. Davis was great. This was star against star. Paul George was great at least offensively defensively. That's kind of what they were doing. But Tony the clippers have so many people to throw it. Lebron and they're gonNA play differently. Doc Rivers was not showing his forehand. He's playing a close to the vest. You go to the playoffs. You want to be able to go to things I know. Scouts say the clippers onion plan for now other Seattle's who's got the clippers. I understand that and so I don't WanNa say the Lakers are the of like the clippers since the first game just right here more than a Laker. So I don't know an I'll I'll see you on this. I don't know if the Lakers clearly the team to beat what I am sure of. Is that clearly Lebron? James is the MVP right now. This is over. This race is over over it. No really over in successive games. He went out there. He beat if if you're honest onto Takubo says Lebron James. He's one of the best three players and basketball. Well the other two were on the other teams and Lebron beat them had beaten them this year. Beat them beat them decisively. Lebron James is the best player in the other. Two are playing for second and third if he won the race aired. Mvp or different and be. He's wanted he wanted because he didn't want it on my ballot. You're the one I'm not because I'm actually sitting side shoulder with a bunch of people who vote. There's not going to be another series of games in this. Look whatever you want you can have one of the things that could hurt onto the CUCO and this is i. Don't want it does out Lebron or anybody else or is that injury can knock you out. Tony he can knock you out even with twenty games. That's an alternate and hopefully it. Won't I know? Jaanus is now said to be out a couple of games of. I'm the Milwaukee Bucks. I'm saying six. You're you're not coming back for six. How does he get to be the? Mvp Tony you can see the future that you'll be playing fortune. Tell me in the spotlight. Game of the season is so far ahead. He has to phone. And Hillary Clinton being the president states. No not necessarily if your head if your head with a quarter of the season to go then you have to one already. It didn't work that way. What's Important Lebron? James Mastered as the poodle and the clippers and over the weekend. That's all right. He hasn't. It's okay if you look to the playoffs. The playoffs to me or a distance season. It's interesting what the clippers might do. This is the here and now season and Lebron in the games that everybody looked at the leader Napa. Know what town are you one better win? Because if he doesn't win I'm GonNa Hammer you on remorsefully every day. When we will he should know should know you for now. That's right you. You are pronounced this state. You have said this. They were declaring a winner. Guess in where are we in the District of Columbia? I've called it for this network. I've called it would sixty five percent of the returns in I've called producers. Go ahead please please mark this please just just signing Kevin Durant Kyrie Irving was supposed to propel the Brooklyn Nets into serious contention with teams like the Lakers and clippers. But after what is to be considered a disappointing two thirds of the season. The Nets fired coach. Kenny Act since Saturday. Throwing the team back into his usual uncertainty even though the nets will make the playoffs immediately is immediate speculation. Senator of course around Kyrie Irvings. Who really without shocking. But the team said this was a mutual parting of the ways tone. What does it tell you? This move about Irving K. D. And the future of team you once cared a lot about were long nets tells me that neither Kyrie Irving in particular nor Kevin Durant in general wanted Kenny Atkinson. It tells me that he probably didn't have a chance. He's collateral damage in the way that David Blatt was collateral damage in the way that Luke Walton was collateral damage. He made the playoffs last year. With a nondescript team. He was going to make the playoffs again but they didn't want him. I'll laid on Kyrie irving more than anybody else. Because Kyrie Irving about a month ago just started talking about what they had what they have and what they need. And I'll say this Terry Irving is team killer and coach killer. And he goes out. And he's sort of like Lebron James. Except Lebron. James has three championships and nine finals. And Kyrie Irving has one and two Russell Road Lebron's coattails disagree on this one. I think if you turn your franchise over in this way to having Kyrie Irving select the coach. That's a bad thing. I will tell you this was sort of funny sort of funny. I should not the tea Lou because lose names GONNA be. He's GonNa be named by a lot of people's front runner for this Gig and but there are the jobs t- Luca look in Philadelphia could be opened his always on the NBA thought. It was funny yesterday to be around. In California's people looked at D. Lewis what are you doing here? I don't WanNa Brooklyn's and it was want to coach those. I mean they're tremendous close. Kevin Durant will if he's Kevin Durant that we've seen over the previous ten. I don't know Kevin Durant had any particular problem with Scott Brooks. I don't know that any particular problems. Steve Kerr so I don't put them in the Cairo. Don't do that and I think that if if Kyrie irving were to say I want tyron that he would think that it's because I can just overrun him and he'll do exactly what I want. This is next year. Might in the way the Astros are going to be the most shooting is team on the invasive. More than any other what his deserve. But here's the thing Tony. Without Kyrie Irving last year. They were a better team than they are now. Even though he's what he played twenty games this year they're going to be in the plows. And you know what maybe with the specter of all this with the Brooklyn Nets? A look more like they did last year. Pretty darn good. How's Boston without him? This year. They do know rush. Shockingly Steve Kuhn in the CEO of the Atlanta. Hawks says he has a plan to increase the NBA. Sagging regular seating re regular season ratings. Kuhnen tell the Sloan conference that he wants to delay the start of the season until mid-december after college football ends when the NFL is beginning to wind down kooning wants to play the NBA finals. In August we'll bundy's this makes sense to you. Know it makes him because he was a Turner executive he understands a lot in greater detail than I do. But here's why didn't make sense to me. He didn't address any of this in what I heard. People go away in the summer. They all employees even people like you and me people who watch the NBA playoffs closely. We unplug July August. Is now that time it is one of the few things I know. Things have crept into it as the larger culture changes but not in some wholesale way that going to have eyeballs trained on the NBA in July and August paying attention to where Lebron goals or whether he takes his talent to South beach goes back to Cleveland. Goes TO LA. That's not the same thing as watching games and series so no. I disagree with him wholeheartedly. But I'd love to engage in. Ask Him these questions pointedly because he's been a TV executive. This is to me. An admission of what is obvious. And what golf did as well when they change your schedule around that you don't. WanNa go head to head with the NFL and you don't WanNa go head to head with college. Was it. Suicide remained Jim. No I understand that because you go in there in September and October November December January. Now I think that the schedule would be better off shortened. Starting Christmas November. Decem where I grew up on. Long Island basketball was an outdoor sport. Mostly outdoor sport and it was very hotly contested in the summer. Would some release the famous Rucker League in New York City Summer Leagues? So yeah and so my sense is basketball. If you if you take the aug part of the calendar you're not up against any baseball but not postseason baseball training camp in Maine June. Nothing but don't have the stage a habit completely to yourself in an area. That was never there before where I think you and I disagree. Is I think you could cultivate eyeballs watching the eyeballs. When people are away people are GonNa go. They don't have. Tv's anymore where they are. They got no stuff in your hand will but nobody under sixties watching TV okay. You're going to have just as easily but if it's in your hand don't you still get to watch it. Play the Damn Games in May and June plan? You don't go to August S- absurd. I think it's a good idea the league that the NBA's coon wants to run away from like a little frightened child the NFL is having a little more labor drama. Perhaps than we initially expected. The unionist pushed his deadline for voting. Forty eight hours to Saturday at midnight and there are reports that at least a handful of owners would be okay with the players turning down the deal so the League could hammer the union at the table and give more concessions including an eighteen game season. Tony all of this amounts to what? So here's a phrase. You don't hear all that often on television I don't know I don't know what it amounts to. I imagine there are some owners who would like to see. This thing voted down. So as you say they could impose eighteen games or impose under things. I know that there are a bunch of players. All of whom seem to be rich and veterans who say yet what's voted down. Maybe THEY WANNA strike. Maybe they wanna see what maybe they want to see what they can get. You know what I don't work stoppage. Here's what I would say. Demorris SMITH WHO WE BOTH KNOW. Who's the head of the Players Union? Set a couple of weeks ago. He thought this was going to pay. Yeah IF HE'S WRONG. What is he doing his head of the Players Union? I'm assuming it's going to pass. Because ten years of peace is for both Labor and Management. A good thing. Here's what a lot of these players. I don't care how rich they are and it won't matter them because they get enough personal resources to withstand a work stoppage but Tony and this is what doesn't even talked about even on this network football. I have no leverage. 'cause they're concepts aren't even valid there. The last time the last time the players really went to with the owners there were replaced begins. Well they put people like you and me uniform and fifty and sixty thousand fan showed up to watch and famous players like Lawrence Taylor. Now they guessing not picket line every man at the vet if you punch in the floor it but you know what I'm saying you know Tony with the NBA. Able to put somebody out there in the jail Lakers. Lebron UNIFORM HAVE BEEN WATCH. No but he league soon look Tony. The players have no leverage they have no leverage Mike but they also take this their player reps voted by majority the player reps already but yes majorities. How works majority vote? Olders seem to vote by overwhelming majority to to do this so I still think it'll are so you think the owners they're not gonNA wind up being able to just go back to the table and pound the MIC. Which is what they had done fast if the vote indicates anything. That's not even what they WANNA do. This is the one they want passed. They passed by allures. This story what we do in this story we needed to fill the is. Let's take a break coming off as Mike Dan. Right that the rockets have hit rock bottom. Good Hope so what San Diego State Laws for the NCW tournaments top four seeds. I mean I could've done three stories on why Lebron's the MVP pink do you think he will be. I don't know it's too early to early. What are we waiting for a male time when you send questions to an email box? We lost the password to in two thousand ten. You don't have a password to their senior ox. Yoke in it. Is Mike Dantonio Right? That this is rock bottom for the rock. He said he hopes. Oh no not. Necessarily because while they've lost to the Knicks which alone could be presented as rock bottom and it losing the sort of bottom feeders. Down in Lost Orlando by twenty getting crushed. Tony if they have a first round matchup against the Clippers to seven it's very possible that would be bottled. They can lose to Denver in the first round in a three six two rockets going out in the first round. That would be their rock bottom to me. See I. I agree with that. This is not rock bottom because they're going to make the playoffs and the way it works is no matter how you get into the playoffs. If you're in the playoffs you still have a chance right now. If they go out for oh not just lose four. Oh is rock bottom because they have no plan? B They have to take fifty threes. They have to make twenty million hope. The ten those out and chases Westbrook can go through the middle. They don't have any big people. That's the only path to victory planned in a six four and under league and teams like the clippers. The Lakers just trust me. They're looking at this going. What other coaches other scouts is watching it? But it's fun again. I applaud them for their efforts. But with Baylor in San Diego's table. Losing again. Who you number ones right now. You're seeing okay so I've got Kansas as the overall number one. I would assume that Gonzaga will get a number one junior. They win their conference after that. Well okay I got Dayton now I understand. This is a little bit dicey because he'd landing ten you know it's not a real good 'cause I'm GonNa win it the attorney. Well that's different. I'M GONNA assume they're going to win it because undefeated so far in their conference. And I would if I allow Gonzaga on that. I'm going to date. It's the fourth one I assume will be Florida state if they win the but Mike and I think I'm preaching to the choir here. The big ten is by far the best conference. So if any one of the three teams that tied for that which would be Maryland and Michigan State and Wisconsin. Even with all those losses I think that team emerges as a number one seed but I could maybe be sold on Creighton if they win the biggies. I'M GONNA go with three. You'RE GONNA go with date. Three of them. Yeah okay the fourth one is about the big ten I. I watched some big ten basketball yesterday. Jalen rose seven or eight of course and I said Jalen isn't a possible that our teams have spent so much time beating up on each other that we don't have anything left and he said yes. It's possible but I don't think so. I think we're going to advance a fluid teams and even if we're not a number one seed that's going to look great for the big ten. I'm hoping the Jalen is right about this. I worry though we've each other too much does the leaked photo of a hat. Have you concerned about the rams new LOGO NOT CONCERNED ABOUT IT? I mean this is supposed to be the La you got the sort of modernized thing. Use To beat a. Ram You know twenty thousand years from now. It's hideous it's hideous. You don't need La you need the. Ram logo the rams have been around since nineteen thirty six and they were the Cleveland Rams before they were the early ribs but they were the ramp. Is that a Ram. What does that? This is an important concept. There are very few things in football helmets. They're actually iconic. The University of Michigan has an iconic. Everybody knows what it is the big bold yellow rams not blue the big bold yellow. Ram's Horn is iconic this. What this looks like tonight? This game people so mark. I realized it looks like something you would put on a roller derby helmet or bicycle. Helmet looks too small. I don't I don't like hideous like a hate. It and you know marketing people have done this. You know what I think should be done with. All Marketing Marketing people female. Let's take one last break but still to come the Astros get some concerning news about Justin. Burley Dave Valentine tonight. Take Genie Valentine. Valentine Curtis Blessing. Did the cowboys black? Make an offer that Dak Prescott should except I lines cover Jimmy Jimmy Johns twice a year. Something extraordinary happens. You get access to exclusive del Employ Savings Dosa. My annual sale is here an uncompromising designs are now yours for less save an extra seventeen percent on Dell and alienware computers with Intel core processors. It's time for you. To upgrade to new modern devices with windows ten saving a wide selection of top brand electronics and accessories plus free shipping on everything call eight hundred buy Dell or visit Dell Dot com slash semi-annual sale. That's eight hundred buy Dell A people have fifty nine th birthday Mike Leach Mike. Leach is an itinerant football coach. Who has worked in small college? Towns did a good job at Texas tech public did a good job in Washington state in pullman and has taken the job at Mississippi state in Starkville. He's also the football coach who loves pirates. Which makes you wonder why hasn't taken the job at East Carolina which is another small town. Greenville North Carolina. I guess accounts to stop lights before taking a job if he doesn't really good job at Mississippi State Zach. That's a step up in difficulty yesterday. I mean you got the hardest conference week after week after week in the SEC. Play against so good luck to Mike League. He's GonNa need it. Happy Anniversary Gerry. Mcnamara on the state fourteen years ago. Gee Mac led Syracuse to an upset over number one uconn in the Big East tournament. That was on day. Two of the greatest four game four day. Run in the history of the Big East and the great sadness is at Syracuse to somehow now in the ACC and you had been exiled to something all American Athletic Conference. The least. They're coming back to the big east next year. Remember how great the tournament used to be. You get Saint John's at Georgetown. This Area Greg Austin happy trails to the Indian Wells tennis tournament the very big deal tournament call the. Bnp Parabas has been called off. This is one of the first United States sporting responses to the corona virus. Someone in the palm springs area has been diagnosed with the virus and the tennis tour has pulled the plug on a very big tournament for both men and women. It's easy to imagine many sporting events following this lead as we have already seen in Europe. The Italians Soccer League has been suspended all matches until April third and won the. Ncaa is coming up. Playing those games without fans has to have been discussed more than one soul read and then discuss is going to be discussing this very serious. I hope these things don't happen. I hope we are at a point in which people feel. They can go safely to these events. I do not see them cancelled it were. We're at that point right. I'm getting worse at this point. We can hope it could get better. Can we not big was still Justin. Bieber? Lander has a Latte strain unlikely for opening day. Your thoughts Astros. When when did they got any goods lady last night? Josh Norman you boy. Yeah agreed at times with the bills out with the REDSKINS. Didn't work out well. But he was great at jumping over bulls in Pamplona. Apparently the cowboys of seven one hundred five million dollars in guarantees impressed. That sounds great. Max Yes stephen a date and we can talk about it at length to it's scheduled to resume for workout said that excites you for several. I'd like to find out how his bones were. Nobody's GonNa hit his hip find ragweed draft out five. I'd like to tackle last one southern conference spinal tonight. Wofford and East Tennessee state and he got I know. East Tennessee state appears to be. It might WANNA win. You know they don't get extra bid necessarily Tony. Outta time trying to better the next time. And I'm Tony Kornheiser. I'm Mike Wilbon saying time tomorrow knuckleheads. You can get the PODCAST APP or apple podcasts. Tommy Jaakko bowl rest in peace.

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 Hour 2: Tim Kurkjian

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

38:22 min | 1 year ago

Hour 2: Tim Kurkjian

"Every week during the baseball season ESPN premier baseball insider joins then and is to guts to drop some horrible no leash and take your calls Suplus to I'm going to undress you three and three you're going to undress me for and four we're GonNa Freak some more live apart they still guides and Tim Curry Tim it's interesting because I think a lot of people view just invert lander as as a big game pitcher yet in the world series he is Oh and five but he's like he's great again vets learn more at Keesa progress dot com guests on the Dan Lebatardshow like our next guest concussion appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line and anyone today that you know only Melania Ted Williams people like that have done only three players age twenty I've ever hit cleanup Alya sportscenter update the Patriots have treated Michael Bennett to the cowboys for twenty twenty one conditional seventh round pick love go on in a World Series Game Tie Cobb Miguel Cabrera and one Soto and that ball he hit on the train tracks as a left handed hitter the other night aedes he also has a plate discipline and a control of the strike zone that is so rare for anyone that young it is just breathtaking to watch him swing band soccer you Jill Ellis's showing your ignorance bone I am to guess them and finally or who had not lost back to back starts at home all season and the nationals got to both of them and beat them twenty ace in Houston where the Astros were sixty and twenty one this year that's the stunning part to me not that the nationals get play with the Astros is well he is one of the great young hitters that any of us ever seen he's done stuff at nineteen now age twenty twenty it was remarkable beyond words you just don't see any left handed hitter going up to that area and he did it seemingly team yet we still everyone seems to be shocked at I guess that's because of the pitchers they beat in Houston that the nationals are two games away from winning a world series yes that's that's the only shock value for me I thought this was a toss up series to begin with 'cause nationals have been really good for four months the West says he is quote unquestionably undoubtedly the greatest human artist of all time has not a five pointer conveyed six world series starts and not won any of them that's what he's done and the Owen five in the world series is historic all knocked around coal and Berlin Tom Put one Soto's accomplishments here through two games into perspective for us in DC so going to be a great atmosphere. Timmy how shocked are you that the nationals here it's interesting too because since May the nationals have been every bit as good as this astros a week your other show takes your phone calls seventy six four five six four eight three seven obviously the world series going on game three tonight in Washington First World Series game in wash so there's no explanation other than he has faced some really good teams in the world series and this is what happens but this is one of the great beauties of baseball ads you know the degree of difficulty at least to me is so high that great players aren't always great players in this sport whereas in basketball you know what I think is shocked me and everyone else is they scored seventeen runs in the first two games of this series which were started by coal and Verlinden the players don't average seven point game in the NBA Finals but it happens in baseball and that's one of the great beauties of the sport let's go to Mike Mike you're on with ESPN's him coaching go. Hey Tom when you're not traveling how often do you make your do you make your bed him because of the money that is still owed to him is so enormous and he is a health risk at the moment and he oh every every morning that's that's a given that's always the way it works I it's the way my mother taught us and I've never I'm I don't think I've ever left the house without making my bed in the morning ever and I'm sixty two let's go to Ta ta go ahead you're ESPN's Tim coaching the negative points all the latest headlines and information tune into sports on ESPN radio all throughout the day we bring in our Fred Tim courage and he joins us every due to the world series and then he helps you lose it once he gets you there what's going on with Verlinden what like things are clutch pitcher to the world series he hasn't been able to get it done right because they have so many other types on that team and because salary is so high that I don't see him going anywhere unless the Yankees are willing to eat no no ski is expected to play Jill Ellis has coach in the United States Women's national team the word as to what sport but I'm guessing domestics he did not have much of a season at all even when he did play so yes I think it would be wise to look into seeing if they can move him lawyers not a path to building a contender. Well it's it's not always like that for instance Manny Ramirez Hey tom the Yankees Tristan and if so if not why well I don't think they can trade a Lotta that money and they shouldn't do that they should hope he comes back to mvp form he has the talent to do it but he's got some work to do had a pretty darn good run after signing a very long term contracts he's not the perfect example but when you sign up position player to a seven year deal and he's thirty years old but say baseball catches up to you after a while and the production goes down but I I would still rather pay and any pitcher has ever gotten in the history of baseball and again in this environment he is going to deserve it given his age his track record redick player than a long-term pitcher because I think I think pitchers have trouble living up to contracts even even more than hitters do given the is physical build which is remarkable in itself he's in great shape to make at least two hundred fifty million dollars creates you're after you're you always see people get pay position players a lot of money and didn't have assumes the workout is that true is is wasting money on position lading that may be a rod would be that name is that possible please tell me as possible I want that to be possible to I don't I don't see that is possible no and I don't see I don't know who that mystery person is and I'm not sure there is one frankly I think this one is going to come in Joe Girardi goes to the phillies in the midst without a manager here and there was a story recently they came out where there is a big name in play a mystery name a big name we were spectrum huge name comes out of nowhere but I don't think so I think billy has a different idea of who a a huge name a mystery name for the mets manager could be and should be and I happen to agree go tim what do you think about this. He's accomplished everything he has to do. In terms of the entertainment industry Jerry Seinfeld think are the two leaders I think but this is crazy this is baseball on the mets are GonNa take another week I think to make a final decision so maybe some wow this several candidates and I think the top two are Eduardo Perez who is my booth made on Monday night baseball games and Carlos Beltran the next question what you weren't familiar with the song beforehand yeah but I just couldn't bring it back because I I don't exactly sing it a lot but yes I've I've you seem like the wrong thing to do that I would try to sing I've made this abundantly clear I have no talent whatsoever at so many things singing be one of them injury issue that most pitchers run into eventually with that sad someone's going to break the bank on Garrett Cole in the off season right right he's going to get more money than Tim what do you expect tonight because you know the Astros are trying to get back into the series of gets the guy who carried a no hitter into the eighth inning last time he was out during the playoffs but she kind of shamed me into it and she gave me there she gave me the kind of a lyrics and the tune so I I had to do it in order to move on it wasn't a squeeze play getting squeeze fallen I mean we're losing but it's fun Mike you have some sound of Tim from the daily help me out here because I did not hear you what you said to my ads at this is that we have we have sound of Tim Singing score tonight which I didn't think we were the first two games that we did I think Zack rank you really need they start here and as great as Sanchez has been in this postseason so far I have to think the Astros who had were a great hitting team during the season are gonNA find their way here they've hit almost hundred points lower with runners in scoring position in the postseason they good during the regular season I think they break out tonight and a bunch of runs or scores totally free when you go to forums dot com slash espn five that's right free zero copay no expensive appointments no awkward face to face conversations to get your prescrip- all series battery or save ten dollars by mail-in rebate with the platinum series swing by today and they'll help you power through the seasons advance auto parts think ahead they advance Ashley. 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March Madness NCAA Preview

Barstool Pick Em

32:13 min | 1 year ago

March Madness NCAA Preview

"The. All right. It's a pick them Rico is on the line me and mush Rico thinks the fucking company revolves around him. He thinks that we owe him something he said he was gonna be in. Then he tacks me like the amount of fucking scheduling I have to do with. You is insane. Wherever you know of it around. I don't I don't I don't your pain in my side. So here it is. Here's the pick him for the people. Let's fuck and do it. Why don't you? I was actually saying Margaret before like I was thinking about just being like all right pick him podcasts. Here we go then being like Rico. What are your thoughts? And then just walking out and letting walking talk twenty five minutes, he was young. Bit Philip re tweet his fuck in his spreadsheet is thirty seven baby Rico. All right. I love you, though, what where do you where do you wanna start want? You host the show. No, you know, your host. No, you are right. All right. I don't know. I mean, there's no like seeding problems if. Yeah. To me. Who do you who do you hate, right? College basketball. People. I hate Dickie v grease. Listen, give us the reasons why. Because I can't keep up with it. We add friend for show on pardon. My take I didn't even know you hated him. Obviously, I read the story was fucked up story, but give me the entire list of people Rico Bosco hates in college basketball. And why okay, let's go speed around because he doesn't talk about the games anything four hundred teams or make the tournament and he just ramble and it's brutal frame for Shirley. He hates America. Golly. Credit cards shut Greenberg. He thinks you should make the tournament. He never played anybody. Even cowards. John cale tired because he cheats. Aronie ass-. God Kalbarri teeth rone's. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, there's more she'll I'll take of. But those are like the call four I guess four five we need to have more integrity this torn as well, not Texan us once you're over hits when we all lose our under. I wanna fuck and fight you Rico. This is coming from. I don't wanna make this about mardi much but mardi mush when mardi mush calls for integrity. The guy who fucking air guitar in my face during college college conference championship week, much has no integrity. Those little he's telling you to to get some integrity. Yeah. I know. But I just want to to one time just like, wow. Rico hot streak, right? You know? Dave, really you. Can he bothers me? They take it out on everybody. You on a hunt Soules me what your point four units. Yeah. Dan, it was halfway to all that number that you don't like to talk to you about three weeks ago. I've now it's been a roller coaster of a year. But this is a good time to be high wouldn't number you talking about. That number that the Horon bay people talk about they write it on his gravestone. Tinfoil hat people. I've no idea what again be more clear for the audience. I just read between the lines. Well, I can't remember Marty's merge. Dyslexic. What's the number? I didn't read the seat. What's the number? No, the number. You think maybe? Thousand sixteen Rico you thinking the summers about be here. Probably going to get hop on the grill make fifty burgers for all Staten Island. I it's a good time. I know. It is right. Like, I'm a bus your ball, you bust mind. But guess what tomorrow's tournament and I'm ready to go. Yeah. Hey, quickly Tweety. But if you're listening, and you if I give you a pick and you doubting it, or if you have your own pick, you make a list the last one on the confidence don't tweet it. But don't pick. It don't wager. It take the money give it to me. And my brother was just having this conversation completely unrelated. He's one of the most fascinating people. I think I've ever seen within boss over within anywhere. That's a horrible fascinating. Because of I think he's fascinating. Fascinate you just everything life story from Africa before not sure does it only thousands abouts. It's just interesting. He's a lot. This is just only the money. Just fucking say Rico. All right. Yes, you're right. That is a great cause. Please donate zone has an awesome shirt that he put out. This is a Syria. I put on my serious tone here to say that Rico now, what's so you're plus point four units. And you want any think that you got a handle on this shit? Yeah. Really? Well. To Nichols over. The course of three months you've got a handle on it. Yeah. Listen it, you know. The big plays real well all year. I listen. It was a couple of Saturday's where it was just a fast like two and fourteen two and fifteen like disaster if I avoid at the Saturdays, even more so hey Rico, if I never had a losing pick on win to exactly there's no saying about the Queen the Queen had certain things she'd be king. So there you go. But not it's like it starting to get a feel of take my spot. So I think I'm gonna go spot. What's with Montana for you? That's my man. I was I was watching that on some at. I think they're really good. And I like the fact they played Michigan last year. You know, so like, and they're my back there. My Bud Light BUSTER good. I like Montana lot, man. Balanced scoring. Big offend. I like those guys. Okay. Yeah. I like him even without their best player. I fifteen ton especially Michigan shoes to three. Not much. Michigan got hot recently. They've been challenged offensively as it is recall. I like Montana kitchen catching fifteen let's get some order in this podcast. Why don't you give us your brackets? And any futures before we go about first round picks. A you. Sleep up to win the region, just strictly value. I think Texas Tech at plus five fifty I hate Nevada's draw. But I still think that matchup problem they're twenty two one when their region, I think Virginia Tech the fact that they get Duke they've already had to look at them. Is knowing the one one team that this is on the sheet as far as distances that nobody's talking about. And I think I don't think they're that great. But if you're gonna play home game the swim team in the elite eight is Maryland at twenty one the one that region you Senate five to one I stayed at eight to one Oregon thirty two one because nobody everybody plays defense in that region and even more deeper sleeper. I have is you see Irvan plus seventy five hundred twenty nine region. In that region. Everybody plays defense all the games are gonna be in the fifties. UC Irvine could be in the Sweet Sixteen ready to go. We like, and then you sit on a seventy seventy seven fifty one or whatever what seventy five hundred everybody's gonna play defense. You're gonna put all teams in the fifties there. I'll take care of the deep sleeper by the same token, you could not have I know everybody wants to shoot on Virginia. The means they saw within that region is all defense. Roth scene set it. I looked at it right away. You saw looking at the tempos those kinds of playing chess checkers. That's a slow region. I think by the same token, you could have Virginia being like here we go. This is also fold. We're all the way through. So you know, and whatever it's I'm kinda rooting for them to on the redemption it sucked. It was great to see you win. But you play the system, you know, that's how it is some nights. You just not gonna hit the shots. So. They walked out. They just stand walked out. Focused on. Yeah. Him and most just walked up. Oh, great. All right. Whatever. Fucking. We walked out. That was great to see a long go for. All right. I was listening the whole time. I agree with you on Virginia. I do feel bad. I feel like they're just they're snake bitten every I don't even know. It's snake bitten is the right word. Just every year. They're the ranked so high, and I actually did this out of you saw last night Rico. I did like a quick teams that temple. Always I always think temples better than they are like all that yet. Canes is is on the Mound Road. See Kansas won the two thousand eight national titles. So I feel like that's recent enough in the lease get deep, but like Arizona, always underachieve Virginia, always underachieve. Rick Barnes teams, always underachieve. There's a few teams out there were just like every year. He expected Villanova until I turned around their entire school. And you forgot to get you for you. You forgot to follow me. And you you went down with the sinking ship. Oh, yeah. That was a tough year. Yeah. There wasn't should we talk about that. Real quick, though itself you listen. And you know, what sick is Villanova? Now, it's showing the most threes that they've ever shot fit the mold again to fade them. It's crazy. I I actually like us do some picks way to give it national champion. I think in so there's a huge final four pool on fan island. Obviously the bracket pools, you can go one of two ways down the most cliche. You're either all in on your either only do or you throat nuke out. So like this final full off that island. You put teams across the u pick a final full of the first rigors the winter and then the cold points of championship game. So and everybody goes in, you know, in syndicates thousands of dollars. So you're never gonna even if you hit to Carolina, Gonzaga, whoever and whatever winning one forty you're gonna split that seven ways. So my wreck analogy there just you just don't do that we need if you go Duke and wild cards or go, no middle that really the only way do think aren't you do guy as well. Who do you think? I am listen. Here's the thing. Man. Coach K cheats Nowy fucking after. Private school that you funny. They can never fucking look into the, you know, the documents. He's Paula troops. The you don't think coach K's ever cheat. Don't think cable was dropping bags. Right. Yeah. That's probably what he was doing. Troops. I have been we we both sat there and watched that second laws, they can't shoot. And I've never seen a Duke team. Not be able to shoot knack white. Who's like good is on the in the doghouse now he can't shoot like what's going on? I mean, they're draw. I don't really like their brand. I don't like to east bracket at all. Because like duckman getting getting Virginia Tech, and what the Sweet Sixteen the first games cake, but they're finally fucking healthy Bolton's gonna be back zion's, obviously zion's out for something. He wants to they're gonna needs. I on in the final four lead, blah, blah. They're going to get that fourth match of a UNC. I'm telling you, it's gonna be an electric in the in the national championship. Yeah. Not going to happen. Oh, yeah. Good to be true. I was just having a conversation with a guy in the circle of trust. And it's always like when it's a one of blue bloods, when do they ever really meet in the lead? So like that can Carolina game. Like everybody wants us year years. I remember Duquesne's cans, it's like, I don't know overall just thinking doesn't happen last year thing as much as we think, I'm sure there's been. Last week. What about what's there like two years ago to? Cliff in I haven't fully dove into that. But I would say that those matchups don't happen more than we think they do. Okay. Why don't you now? Transition to a. What do you want to go where you wanna go from there? You wanna go picks? Do you wanna go? Where like what you you? You're hosting the show you eat some actually right now. I'm looking up. How many times we get blue bloods, just to fucking dunk on your face? So fair enough about on your I'm on. I'm on everyone of these teams. But you gotta saw looking at it and be like, maybe the it's almost like a trend underdog like is for our too many people on. Yeah. All regaining, see northeastern. Do you know anyone who has Kansas Kansas state or Wisconsin putting ninety? Nope. Yep. They all. So again, I'm foot my foot right in the Batra. But you know, I don't know. I mean, well, if you see Irvine like I said Kansas has they look great against Texas for awards portion of the year. They just can't put it together. And Wisconsin again, everybody's sleeping on. Wisconsin. Argued pot has been in use all of their photo. You know what I mean? Like we saw with Syracuse. Charity maxima getting even Sean for that first round deem like we winning. We used to you just compared organ to Gerry McNamara. Syracuse. They had to win. They had to win a few to get in that. Yes. Oh, you're saying team that wins the tournament and then has to keep playing. I got you. Yes. But then you say the the say you con with two thousand fourteen right? There's been instances that go without shit. There's jets at south Pathet every name somebody else. Besides that you hear. Exactly, there's there's. Looking I impossible for me to look up like everything right now. All right. Well, just saying if you don't think of it off the top yet. It's a point to me until you prove it then it's point back to you plays a point game. Suddenly he thinks he's up on you. And Dave right now. I feel like yeah. Okay. So all right. So just quickly here. Two thousand eighteen Kansas Duke, two thousand seventeen North Carolina verse Kentucky two thousand sixteen. Villanova verse Kansas. Do you want me to keep going Rico? It's literally every single is literally every single year here. The internet is a birth. Yeah. Sucks. Do converse two thousand fifteen you. Also Louisville verse Michigan state. Nice talk verse. No pain. Those are all dates. I mean, you want me to keep going. No, I keep on. Okay. That's what I thought point me. Doing going for run. Yes. Point big cat. Okay. All right. So so what are you want to miss state verse Connecticut in two thousand nine Michigan state, Connecticut was one verse Michigan in two thousand eighteen you said blue bloods, you said bloods, use gloves. Sorry, you said. Blue bloods. All right. All right. So let's do let's let's bring this back full circle. You just didn't pick for the for the bracket explained. Literally don't throw out. Do you want to give a pick the brat? I mean brackets to me like old news in Calcutta in Ohio pool in California. I got the final four full like it's the bracket is it's stupid plus making the pick. Like, why would I why worry about my bracket? When in actuality, it's going to be whatever per se, Texas ten. You don't know. Don't you? Haven't said anything, I'm picking games or not. Picking the game. All right. Okay. So let's do some picks. Let's give the people the picks because that's what they want. Let's do some fucking picks. Is. In the sheets, the sheets of tweets Dan rea pointed to what the temple way tonight not tweeted between again a while ago. Oh my God. Thirteen Louisville verse Duke two thousand twelve Carolina versus Kansas. All right. Youtube song animal beat the alley the horsemen of being. All right. No. Clip for. One shining moment on re oh and the hill. I like a lot of the hill. Classic show. Good show sleeve all time character. All right. So let's picks. Let's give people some fucking picks Rico keep going on. All right. I like the biggest play of the weekend. So far, I own you. Wait, see. These teams are tracked me, I only give up a ton of UNC is typical. They don't even care if the ball goes in and you're going to the rundown report, you so that would joke they hung up injuring on every team as they play in the sub one hundred fifteen he's Keesey over one fifty six I know that's like we sha- and like the heavy guys. We burgers, they won't about the ova in the office guys going to be on that. But I looked I looked at some folks getting way too many points Old Dominion. Who is by the way, the great perfect for the coach cancer. They're playing hall to win a bunch of comeback conference USA Old Dominion is group of kids. I love them catching twelve and a half for do through for twenty three's. I'm on old me Rico Rico before you keep going card. Can you? Give us the top four great group of kids in turn police. Yeah. I'm gonna just Montana for sure what Montana Old Dominion. Great kids. Belmont belmont. They got an old coat him. Hey. Oh, man. You're gonna be you're going to be cut twenty five work you're off shooting threes. That's your final four, and I won't go. Okay. And that's the fun of four of great group of kids. Brought to you by Rico Bosco. That's fantastic Rico. I just retreated the sheet keep going sorry. Sure. I like I like Murray state because of the injury them all chat. I think that I like them I like on the money line. I like Belmont catching agree against Maryland. I like northeastern on the money line two and a half to one Kansas banks, Montana, catching fifteen I liked the under in Texas Tech northern Kentucky. Thanks sector, smother them on the one thirty seven that makes no sense. I like UCI on the money line. I will look. Whoa of Virginia. First hand, you gotta win that by them in possessions on the team who's pissed off Jimi Virginia. Big in the first half. I liked the Wisconsin Oregon under one sixteen that game's going to be ugly. They're gonna start. Clanging early as well on the one sixteen. I don't think those teams reached the sixties I'll take that. And I like Virginia Tech minus pain against Saint Louis. They Lewis's death than having a run through the eight ten shot up Chris loan. Great guy full mobility on. I like Virginia Tech. Okay. I like those picks Rico good job, very indepth, mardi can I go. And then you go. Yes. All right, so Rico. I'm just gonna go through Thursdays slate. Real quick. My thoughts are just spit them out to you. Minnesota louisville. I kinda like Louisville in this by I do not trust Minnesota. I do not think they're very good team yellow. She kinda like the over in that. I like Auburn. I don't know if you like Auburn at all I think New Mexico's close a forty seven percents threes on the run then we should have lost your other crises on this yet. But you always the bubbles crashing. Yeah. Across all, right. Your bubble crasher? Okay. Got it Vermont Vermont. I like northeastern I like northeastern, but everyone likes northeastern Rico. Yes. Sorry. We talked about. Saint Mary's has unbelievable lights out three point defense. And they're playing Villanova just wants shoot the threes. So I kind of like Saint Mary's in that spot. I like Cincinnati. I think I will if you watched Iowa watch a lot of big ten basketball. I will faded so hard down the stretch. They lost a bunch of Heartbreakers. They had a stretch where they're winning like every game at the end. And then it kind of regress there. They lost that heartbreaker Brassica they lost in the big ten tournament. I think Cincinnati's tougher team and Mick Cronin. Even though he's kinda overrated that was another stat. He's only been in the Sweet Sixteen once which is crazy. Also, mckernan Bennett Cincinnati, I think longer than huggy or the same amount of huggy as huggy which is crazy to think about. I like Wisconsin just because everyone's betting against them. I like walk. I like I like Washington. Even though they faded a little they clinched early. So I think that was kinda fucked them up. I like your I own in North Carolina over I like, Ojo state house state stinks. Kill Wesson was out for those like a little for that stretch, their I think house they will keep that game close. I don't think I just think they're five five and a half points a little too much little too, much and. Sweet Sixteen out of nowhere. It seems like it's like a big time time from his well member when to choose made it a couple of years ago the plane like wasn't like eleven twelve or something like that. So yeah, if you go down the conference as well. Okay. So those are my picks. Those might just listen, I'll be totally honest with the audience right now. I am legally. I'm not bound any of these picks. I could change my mind any moment. Once we get to the sports book and start gambling. I'll lose my mind. So if I get in whole, I'm gonna just reverse whatever I thought, so those are my clear is like feeling good Wednesday picks. So actually, those are probably the best pixel give you anything after this point is probably going to be dog shit because I'm going to start going on tilt and losing my mind the wake up to me on Friday. Yeah. Got. What are you got much around us out, so nice host Rico? So since he did I'll do the Friday games love Cincinnati ever since obviously the the football coach and the football and players. He reminds me of the big big fat liar character, the Frank communities movie, and I'll all from. Yeah. Where he swims in the blue pool. Yeah. What's? The I don't know. Yeah. Minds of him. So I like Cincinnati minus three and a half this game. I don't I don't understand this game. Oklahoma ole miss, I just always bet on ole miss. I think Oklahoma sucks us and Thai Texas Tech. I have them is thirteen and a half against northern Kentucky. Everyone fucking love northern Kentucky. I have Texas Tech in the final four this year. They'll long Bassett's they really are long bastard Jorda here from for mardi Tayo. And everyone loves you serve. I don't get it. Kansas state plays fucking Stella defense. Kansas state, minus Wade playing yes, sure. I used to forever injured guy. Yeah. Every year. I feel like it's these dean Wade pointing they're totally different team with them without people in the Marsa get excited about these fucking bad teams beating good team in. It's this is not bad not bad. It's just Kansas state has proven. They've been good all year. They're great defense. But if you'll. But if you're to. Plaguing. But if it's nothing so threes picking 'em speaking gonna be short ugly. So you can be four down six with four minutes, three shocks. And that's it. You know, those different teams kids so susceptible every shortly, but the Carolinas like a threes and one down came. They would eliminate the sheriff Clarke, they can't you make the game short anybody's going with you. You should be who should be coat should be coach. I really thought it. I really started my notebook to the future for for coach advocate. Yeah. Come on both fall and. Vasco. That's when we start rigging the games. Run around. Well, we kicked you that. You hear that Rico mardi wants to fuck in point shave Elena run our own book, a little literally not a man of integrity integrity is doing the right thing. When no one's walking. That's true. No one's looking doing the wrong thing. So I get the money. It wasn't that good because it was. Okay. He goes trying to suck up because trying to set up to you. Because what he's done is. He's completely. He's completely alienated. Dave with his tax. He knows that. I am right on the cusp of like a block his ass. So he needs a lifeline in this office. So he's gonna be buttering you up left and right Martin. He's going to be sending you all kinds of school. How? That I'm talking. How do you feel about Dave blocking you though? I mean. Trying to give them money. Listen. Rico you're up plus point four units and worked trying to give him any Wimmer's. That's fifty grand. I think. Game. Ooh, couch. Do this. Then just fifteen both the crazy sexy. That's all DJ's bingo soon. What's going on TJ's? Bingo. DJ's bingo. Yeah. Isn't that a big event? Yeah. On the more Nico. Look who you get emails. I know some people at DJ's, I don't know if I should overstep you in that. Are you going to smoke on the back? Oh, you don't say that about another man smucker bars. No, smokable smokable. You say mardi go schmuck. Ours is like a jelly sandwich. This schmuck? Smokable schmuck? Good trying to do on their own. I will never go. I'll. Dan, cookie? Clear up a lot of state was. Listen, I'm I'm gonna leave everyone with the little little some because this has been the dumbest podcast of all time. Yeah. I know you have a hard stop because you're the man of a million fucking like you have more restrictions on me. And my time than anyone in my life. All right here, we go ready for this. This this is s curve ranking. And how the how the teams have been seeded. Expected s curve rating in actual s rating. Okay. I'll waffle. What what do you got? What are you going gonna give it to you? These are. It's basically they they use the tools of where the team should have been should have been seated and where they ended up being seeded if you kinda follow that you can usually do decently on teams that are under seated teams that are over seated. So the tie state is under siege. We let me fucking finish. Yeah. Go ahead. The top three teams that should have gotten a better seed on the S curve reading are Oregon Saint Mary's and Florida, okay? Notice say Iowa State, you lose her what? The background noise. Okay. I will say this four organ Saint Mary's Florida. Those teams should have gotten a better seed teams that should have gotten a worse. Seed based on their analytics Kansas state, Marquette, Mississippi and Washington take that with whatever you will. I'm trying to give everyone a little something. Because again, the dumbest podcast of all time. And with that Rico. We will see you. I don't know one man. I love you. Bye rico. I love you. Okay. You take it easy smucker. Visit. 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Hour 1 - Qadry Ismail (12-20-19)

The Dan Patrick Show

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Hour 1 - Qadry Ismail (12-20-19)

"Thank you for listening to this. podcast one sports net production available on apple podcast and podcast one. Okay this is just a thirty second commercial sean. I'm going to throw a lot of numbers at you but please please stay with me. In just fifteen minutes you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. The company that has been offering great rates and Great Service Service for seventy five years. It's Gyco I'm using for a long time myself and anytime you need help. You could speak to one of their trains specialists. Twenty four seven. No recordings the company. GYCO GO TO GEICO DOT COM today Sir. All the numbers. But I've been a fan and a customer guy go for a long time and in five four three two one. I'm out broadcasting casting from the Mercedes man that's right they won. This is Dan. Patrick made it to a Friday. Traeger meet Friday. We imported one of the Great. It grill masters in the country. Chad is on campus. Here and we got the traegergrills all fired up. Morale is very high. fritzy has one foot in studio one foot on a plane to Hawaii. got a festive hat on today. I love this hand. Greatest Bronco purchase ever Friday. fritzy is very very very dangerous. He's got a couple of guests books so He's ready to go on holiday sports. They headlined deal if we get to that point. If you let me do those wait a minute here. Why didn't know that was in? There was no agreement. You you can't pichit on air now. I look like the bad guy if I say no the bad guy. If we can't work in sports it could be viewed as the good guy. If I say to you see I just talked about the negative grievance redressed out the first thing I dressed getting negative. Okay if you don't have of names sports names that are modern control. WHO's born win with with holiday last name? That's that's not faff about. How about this? The cutoff is names before nine. Hundred Eighty five or not allowable your Christmas sports related names like I have like four names now out of the seventy three but when all you do is just bring bring back the ones you brought back the year before and then the year before that I do that but there are people that may not have heard them before that they're enjoying them for the first time head prancer. He's a pitcher richer for the dime. Nothing wrong with bringing back Matt Holliday. Just makes sense. I know I'm saying but it's the same ones. People want to hear new ones like what I do like. I kinda cheated like Rob Reindeer Reindeer reindeer dear but that I have to kind of connect the dots a little bit to make you know but rain rob reindeer who played for the Tigers back in what the eighties please take. The average fan of the show is knowing who dear no no. That's unfortunate okay. I'm baseball people in Detroit Might Know Rob Reindeer. Maybe I was just trying to get the attention of Detroit and all the rest of the country. Okay I think I'm already done with today's show by the direction we're going I think I'm just GONNA for everybody's mental health. I I might just call it right now. I walk in and see guys in two thousand twenty and the first thing that I hear is todd doing his Bernie Sanders impersonate. Excuse me if I may. I understand the final show of the years. Is the final forever you coming back. What's happening? Excuse me if I can defer to the Holliston I got ten seconds. Still you've cornered cornered the market on Bernie Sanders Person. Don Pardo. Yeah it sounds a lot like is that one you give me twelve inches. A foot three feet a yard one hundred yard toward the total the same regin. Excuse me Al Pacino okay. I'm running for president here. I'll see you guys next year. Yeah Oh Friday fritzy dangerous. So he's got his Bronco Hat on that lights lights up he's got a bronco. I was miserable. This came in the mail and flipped a switch and it said batteries included whatever and it didn't work. I try to put another battery and didn't were. They sent me a defective one. I was so upset and I sent it back and they sent me another one and I sent back to the one that wasn't working and then they credited my account and I didn't say same thing about it so I think this is kind of like a free holiday Bronco. His program brought to you by TRUECAR although they might want to have second thoughts about that truecar shows you what other people paid for the car. You want so when you're ready to discover buy or sell your next car visit truecar and enjoy more confident car. Buying Experience Mark Jackson the former player. ESPN ABC NBA analyst. Will Recap what we saw last night with the bucks and the Lakers Chris Simms from NBC. Sports he'll join US coming up a little bit later on and Qadri Ishmail the former. NFL Receiver he works for the Ravens a broadcaster he will join us now. Full disclosure. We didn't think of having Qadri Ismay on todd son got into Syracuse and then all of sudden there was a tweet that Qadri Ismael than said. Hey thumbs up up to your son going to my Alma Mater Syracuse a congratulatory tweet and it had a bunch of little oranges. I like a little emoji. And I thought wow countries well following me or found out that my sons go to Syracuse very excited about it and then todd goes. Hey do you want to have Qadri Us Mail on I did. I pitched him hard. We have to have him on kidding. Me Rockets brother. Ravens are doing well we have to. Who else would you have on to talk about the Ravens? Did he help your son get into Syracuse. I can't talk about okay. Did you reach out to Jim Behind to see if if he would help your son get a video okay. That's it nothing related to write. Although I did go on a tour a few months ago I saw him down the hall. I didn't say hiring anybody I I thought that was Kinda. Cool that peaked. And just out of the corner of my eyes so coach behind going into his office for a second and that was kind of a little thrill. If you'd like get in touch with the program you can't eight seven seven three. DP show email address DP. Dan Patrick Dot Com. I'm tired already. I'm exhausted this morning. You did you did before the show you did it and I said Oh no style. impersonations dial it down a little but you were doing your impersonation to no one in Pretoria not sitting here all alone actually excite. You like six thirty this morning talking to I didn't even know the impersonation that were really really upset. Me What is what are you doing it. Goes it's Bernie Bernie Sanders and I go. Okay yeah pull. What's the psychology of of todd being so excited before taking a week off it? It happens every year whenever we take a week off. He shot out of a cannon on the Friday before him. Well also Friday fritzy when he's got three or four guests booked then then you'll get this fancied he's been doing. This is because todd sending this running total of like Only seventeen chosen the next thirty days. Not Bad I did do that if you're done that several times is there. He's got this running clock of like. Hey guess what. We only have to do. This much wasn't so much that we have to do that. It was just like I guess. Maybe it's just the grind of worrying what the guests every day. It's nice to know there's a period of time we can kind of go about Your Business and not worrying about the guest list and things like that. It wasn't like you know I love what I do but I also love going on vacation and being in Hawaii and buy beach. I think we all can agree to that. Where it's you know getting up five thirty in the mornings at a great time sometimes in the freezing cold but you you know what it's all good? It's Friday and this is the last show till January sticks. It's relaxing to know that I don't have to stress again for another week and a half about who's coming on in two weeks now back to you in the studio. That's really really all it is looking for some traeger grill after the show and we have your holiday party and then go in Hawaii then my son got into Syracuse. Happy Guy Still doing what you stand hemorrhoids but you know what all everything is good heading into the new year as we wrap up a beautiful victory and preparation with lighter. Kate not getting the job. maybe. I'm not putting it on right. It came out this little thing they used to attach to the front of the tube. Marketing used that thank. You don't remember if I didn't talk I'm GonNa Guess you would have continued to talk to the show would be. It'll be like eleven fifty four and change the show will be over and that's how the show it in stat of the day play of the day. Poll question all of that coming up Bucks beat the Lakers last night battle the NBA's best teams uh-huh and I'd caution reading too much into the result. You know the Lakers were at the end of a long road trip and the outcome might have been different if they were playing in Los Angeles. A seven game series between these two would be a whole lot of fun. I think if you don't have a dog in the fight you'd sign up for that just an NBA fan but you know here's here's the problem the NBA and the TV networks that carry the product. They've signed up for a lot of Pelicans in warriors games and that's not working out well because the warriors aren't going to be good this year and I don't know of Zion. Plays this year for the PELICANS. But Lebron against the Greek freak that that was more like that felt like a playoff golf game last night. And there's also that feel of the torch being passed because you're watching the Greek freak. And when he first I started to emerge as a really good player and I remember watching him saying if he ever gets jumper. It won't be fair. Well he's got the jumper it's here and and he's actually a very. He's a good three point shooter not great but not bad and not afraid to take the three so now you have to honor the three and if you start to look at you know what he's doing we know when he gets into the paint that it's over he's death but he had thirty four points. Eleven rebounds seven assists and I like that he had finally put the crown on. He said. I'm now the King I like it. I liked that. He wants it that he wants to be great eight and he's improved every year. The great ones always add something to their game. Go down through history. The great ones add something to their game every year. And that's what impresses me most about him is. He could stay where he was and still be one of the five best players in the game for a long time. He wants to be the best player in the game. He's already been the MVP but he went five of eight from three point range last night. He's thirteen of twenty three three in eight games this month from three point range. That's where it's not fair. There's nobody like him. Anthony Davis to me. Was the Greek week freaked before the Greek freak but the Greek freak now adding the three point shot an Anthony Davis worked on this a couple of years ago where he wanted to add the three point shot and you saw that last night you know. Look he's coming back from the ankle injury. But there's a there's a big difference between the Greek freak and any other big man although I will say say this and nobody would notice this and maybe because I have no life I noticed this Karl Anthony. Towns has put up unbelievable double numbers this year but he plays for Minnesota. Nobody's following the timber wolves but me. and Karl Anthony towns as I mean he. He's not the Greek freak but as your traditional big man like his numbers. If you said you can have Joel embiid or Karl Anthony towns before you say well of course you would take Joel. Embiid Paula give me the numbers on my guy. Karl Anthony towns. The Big Cat is averaging twenty six and a half points twelve rebounds four and a half assists assists and he's now become a volume three point shooter. He's averaging eight three point attempts per game. He's averaging forty two percent from three. He's one of the best not centers one of the best three point shooters in the league. And there's a stat out there guys who have had the season as having it's only two guys who have been in history. I'm GonNa let you guess there's only only two guys in the history of the NBA. Who who have twenty five points per game over ten rebounds over forces and over forty percent from three for a season Karl Anthony towns and one other player player in NBA history? Who wants twenty-five ten forces and over forty percent from three the over forty percent from three point range? I'm from a generation ago and it's a very famous player. Larry Larry Bird. Yeah well yes mclovin but the team stinks. So those numbers mean absolutely zilch. Why don't think they mean nothing? Good points on a bad team mean less than nothing. They means zero. I be someone's gotta shoot someone's gotTa Score Score. The shooting percentage is actually pretty good. Yeah the shooting percentages. What is key in this? That means something but why is team bad. Then I saw. I've seen a couple all the time. They're not threatening at all. No but is it. Because of Karl Anthony towns it's just empty points and bad games. It's kind of been. Why don't we have other players who we're doing this on bad teams? Tobias Harris scored twenty on bad teams. came the sixers wasn't safe all his Harris being an all store the issue. I actually like Kim now. But all the bad teams have twenty game scores. They all they all do this. Tell me somebody who's putting up those numbers on a bad team Zach evine. He's putting up numbers through the roof and they're terrible at the Chicago Bulls and I love him. He's probably all star to isn't he. Maybe I mean there got no towns. Numbers are exceptional. You're absolutely right but I just. I can't give him full credit. If the team can't win the he should be winning games. He's disappointing as any if he can do that but he he's got he's playing. It's not one on one. Jaanus have anyone around him. He's got him. He's the best team in the league. Dante Stephen Shinzo the big Ragu. Ye- but I feel like wind should be part of the stat. Well there's the Greek freak and then there's is everybody else I'm just saying Karl Anthony towns. You know sometimes you look through the paper and you see the stats and you go. Oh I don't know who's average in that or I didn't know shooting that percentage it. That was just one of those that Karl Anthony towns won't be mentioned on any other show today and I thought maybe I would just give him some some love today. fritzy call for Karl Arl Anthony towns. See what he's I'm on it eight. Would you take him over and beat you. Yes I'll right now bead yet but embiid is when it counts is really good. I don't know how healthy is and I don't know if he wants to be great. That that my knock on embiid is we might look back on his career and go. What could have been that? Just my feeling with him I think he's he's a wonderful player to watch. He's fun big personality. He doesn't shoot the three as well as Karl. Anthony towns does but and you were saying about Janas having to add something it doesn't feel like embiid is adding things throughout his next step. Whatever it seems to be missing? I think he's adding things to his diet. Diet is is what he's adding to but I don't know if embiid wants to be great. This is what I love about. The Greek freak is that he wants to be great the fact that he he acted like he was putting on the crown last night. Right in front of Lebron. I loved it because it feels like there was a passing the torch now. I still love watching the Bronx. I'm not surprised Milwaukee won that game the Lakers did come back and certainly made it interesting. But it's a regular season game in December. If if these to go toe to toe in June you know that that's where you make your mark on history. The the honest thing with the crown it kind of reminded me from generation ago. You ever see that. A documentary about the ninety two Dream Team Larry Bird and Jordan all those guys. And they play in the scrimmage for two hours just a battle and Jordan at the end got the upper hand and and beat them and bird. Didn't uneven play in the scrimmage. Because his back was hurt and magic in Jordan going at it and as they're walking out heading to the showers bird imagine sitting there just to get a civil water in getting get ready to leave and Jordan. Wasp Y he goes boys. There's a new sheriff. He actually said there's a new sheriff in town to Magic Johnson and Larry Bird and bird looks at them and goes. He ain't line because they had no argument I been looking through the tweets. This morning. I finally found one. That's complimentary for you. Todd Kish Two thousand. My wife says she loves CBS. Fritzy fritzy makes her day. She loves his Denver. broncos hat and sweater I found one and I found several that went in the other direction. You shut up already. Someone given nyquil slow down slow down. How many coffees that? I have Fritzy when he wanted Qadri Ismay on and And you got it. You're not use alum. Yeah I know he wants them. Super Bowl against the giants nineteen years ago but Syracuse. Are we going to just have syracuse. Here's along with your mind. It'd be nice Marvin Harrison calling into a free any lovely idea Gerry McNamara mcnabb. Let's get them all. Yeah Chris Simms will join us in and Mark Jackson from ESPN THEIR NBA analysts. So we'll take a break here. We'll talk Ravens football here coming up and The rest of the NFL some interesting acting point spreads. Here have that for you coming up. It's eighteen after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick show this summer. There's only one trusted place that lets you get in on all your favorite sports betting action that online dot. Ag Sign up today for a free account at Bet online dot ag and use Promo Code. podcast one for your fifty percent off. Welcome bonus or text bet two three eight six six nine. That's B. E. T. and W. Two two three eight six six nine to receive your fifty percent. Welcome bonus don't sit on the sidelines this summer for Major League Baseball to the women's World Cup and all things. UFC Bed Online AG. has you covered visit. Bet Online aimed at eight. And don't forget to use the promo code podcast wine bet online dot. Ag Your online sportsbook experts. What poll questions are you? You considering mclovin while we already have one up on show APP. IMPACT DOT com. Do you want to hear fritzy's holiday headlines early results fifty nine percent. Yes so if you want to vote no get there fast. That's what I'm talking about. But we address this the other. Yeah I'm okay I mean I enjoy enjoy see in a car. Crash occasionally fifty nine percent or into a little bit of a coin flip. That's not great news. I think you should take it if you if you one one percent you should take it. Two Point Oh one what else do we have a lot of all decade lis- out this at the end of the two thousand ten's there's one of those interesting who is the athlete of the two thousand ten. We could put that out there USA. Today I could give you their top five Lebron Serena Tom Brady Simone. Biles you same. Bolt and Steph curry are amongst them. Okay let me say Lebron Probably Lebron. The Brian started added his championship. Run during the ten. So yeah. It's all been contained in the second okay over Brady is an option. Is that one. Oh I don't know I'm just going their list probably said I know you're right. Lebron is one okay. Yeah the Bryant one Serena to if I change that Paul by one word and say most impactful all athlete of the past ten years. Would you up steph curry. Because I think he changed the direction of the three point. The League and the trickle down effect so if you just changed make make it impactful. Would you change your pick. I said this a while ago about steph curry. He gives hope to everyone to play the game. Because Michael Jordan is the best player air. But you can't play like Michael. It feels like you have a chance to play like Steph curry and I think as we look back the impact that Steph will have on the actual the playing of the game will be as impactful if not more so than Michael Jordan Jordan was spectacular. Obviously you know he wanted six. Titles he never lost. Lost but steph curry gave hope to every kid out there who may be six feet maybe six one six two. You don't have to jump out of the gym the APP to have a great handle obvious. Obviously you have to have talent but he gives you hope that you might be able to. There's a possibility that you could play. I watch Michael Jordan. I don't go man. I could be just like him steph curry I look at and I go okay if I was younger and followed. What he he does and how he does it? There's a chance that I have no chance of being Michael Jordan. Lebron James Yeah Paulie you go back to that two thousand fifteen sixteen season. His breakout season where he was thirty points. It's forty five percent from three eleven threes a game. I can remember when we would go down to New York City. Do the show and they were on that winning streak. We would plan our meals that we got onto to to make sure we could watch the warriors we're like we're GONNA see where they're playing tonight. I was the last time you did that in the NBA back. Then you know feels like Luca. Now your appointment viewing viewing not not as much trae young but Lucas. Something unique Greek freak the Greek freak. You should watch. You may not watch you. May They not look at Milwaukee and say. That's an exciting team. They're very good team. But the Greek freak though what he does like you. Just don't see if I said to you fifteen fifteen years ago you're gonNA have somebody not from the United States. He's from Greece. And he's GonNa come over here and change the way. Big Men play away because we thought we'd seen everything from big man when when you had you know dirk a seven footer taking you out and primarily being a jump shooter so you had that and you go and then Kevin Durant like durant is spectacular is a seven footer. Got A handle. He's got range you know. He's good both offensively defensively. Greek freak is now changing that like the most talented big man that we've probably ever seen if you'd look at just athleticism start there. Then you add that he can beat you off the dribble he can take four dribbles and go from one end of the floor to the other one and dunk on you and now he's added the three point shot. I mean that's scary because there's no answer for him in today's NBA where you can't put your hands on on somebody. And if he gets a head of steam starts moving but now you gotta respect the three man. I'd hate to have that assignment where they go. Yeah you got the Greek Freak yes mclovin. USA also a list of teams of the decade and talking about influence a list to the women's World World Cup team as the number one team of the decade over Alabama New England Golden State. But what is the influence I getting young women involved but we went through this just before with Brandy chastain and maybe this is you know the the fruits of that of something that happened back then but you know Mia Hamm and you know but I I don't know I don't know what the like the impact is probably not going to be felt for a few years right but they're arguing that they were particularly successful this decade. They want the last two and they were runners up in two thousand eleven. But I don't know I mean New England. Golden State had pretty good runs conflict it but also being successful being impactful or two different things here because the wires were successful and impactful. You know. Sometimes you you'll see teams that are just successful. But that doesn't mean they're impactful the Patriots impacted. Thanks her. I don't know what the impact would be with the Patriots they. They've they've been successful but they've also been memorable for negative. What if things too so there? But I don't know if they've had an impact like Lamar Jackson. His hat impact earliest he could but I don't know if if you know he's going to change the quarterbacking position all by himself. We're now we're going to look at. That's how you that's who you want play in that position. I don't know that Speaking of Lamar Jackson Qadri Andrea smell former. NFL Wide Receiver Super Bowl as well Syracuse legend. He works for the Ravens Pre and post game coverage and Kadri joins doing just now Qadri Good Morning. How are you Dan? What's going on with JOE now? True or false. Did you help todd. Fritz's son get into Syracuse. They pulled some strings for okay. Kinda made a couple of calls. That's what we thought that's right. Thanks for being listed head. We want him on. We're going to go ahead recommend it's going to enhance the school's credibility Bo- we had them in there. All right told Taty can't start booking syracuse alum. You Know Rob Konrad. He wanted to have on today. Dwight free today Gerry McNamara namara said no probably just one syracuse alum. Do do your ravens have any issues like as you take. This team goes into the postseason. What is the biggest concern? You have for the Ravens so I think if you look at the last few weeks. Kind of shockingly. I would say special teams. And here's why you know what the playoffs physician matters. Big plays matter better You know momentum capturing keeping it it definitely is something that you know you you cut it when you you get into the post season for the Ravens. I think with Justin Tucker for example. You know miss an extra point and you know everyone in Mt Bank stadium. We're holding collective breath because that's just unheard of you know you talk about the most accurate kicker and no league history You Look at you know Sam Cooke getting his punt blocked and and you look at just how credible he's been and the way he's been able to Just place the ball when he punched it wherever you know. He's on the field and so you know little mistakes like that. I think you know Ken. can hurt team and so. I think that's first foremost but then also there have been little you you kind of chasing the armor defensively Whether it be the forty niners Getting to the outside and really getting big chunk plays and they're running game aim. We saw that Back a week four with Nick Charles and the way he was able to run it so effectively against the Ravens. Obviously for passing attack accident point That's something where I think at times have been breakdowns in communication A MORE SEASON playoff quarterback. We're back and take advantage of some of the mistakes so well wouldn't. Are there some change there. There's nothing that's necessarily person to give me a team that you don't want to face in the postseason I think AFC They match up pretty pretty well against everyone. I Know New England just because of their experience and you know bill check you know that the mastermind of his is trying to figure out. You know the way in which Greg Roman and and Lamar operate I think they would be the one that would kind of be the thorn in the aside I I would probably say everybody else. I think they match up really well against I think NFC so if it became a game where yeah you know what is Super Bowl. Look I I would not want to face a forty niners team. I think the forty niners their speed on their defense but at the same time the way in which their offense operates. It's incredibly difficult to defend and I think they would be The one that I wanted to see the ravens face if I would have told you an August Lamar Jackson Jackson is going to be the. Mvp what would you say Yeah let's put some money on it and and I probably would've not necessarily bet against him just for the sake of it but from what I saw you know as the season while down in two thousand eighteen the off season. And you just don't know and I said this before rookies. When you you get into the League you have your strengths? And it takes a guy to figure out how to work on his weaknesses and oftentimes. It might be their second or third a year. Maybe the year before they finally get it and make their weaknesses their strengths and be a complete player for the position of quarterback. I mean we've seen that throughout where is is it takes them forever and they're kinda become an upper tier quarterback and so for Lamar who was having difficulty throwing the football too. You know the way he came into camp. You know tight spirals You know the way he was having a command of offense and the way he grew. You know right from the jump going down to Miami And just carrying it through the season. It's it's remarkable My Hat's off to for his hard work and dedication to improving in his craft. Who knew that Mark Ingram was The stand up comedian. The host of this team feels like he's been. The biggest proponent advocate could cheerleader for Lamar Jackson. If you need a hype man had and get him Mark Ingram I. I mean last year. Are you know when you know. Obviously the season is over and offseason nearby. Call my God. You know who's GONNA fill the leadership void and no guys. This is team is GonNa look you know different and you know because for years you've had those big name guys you've had that Israel so you know clearly ray and and and you had ask some big name players thesis senior on off the side. Whatever but I think for this team and the way they just it's like March has been here his entire career? That's that's what we've seen with what's happened. Just how he's been In his leadership role and just this is his height barrel with Lamar. Thank it's perfect. Did you ever ratio brother Dan so yeah. Let's just say it on your show for for once. And for all if there was ever questioned that has been passed by me from every fucking Erkin Notre Dame alumni to the history of Man Omar. God sure your brother play hockey so fast. Who's oster and you gotta understand zero to ten yards? I kid you not. Tim Brown was talking to me. The one time on. WE'RE DOWN TO DALLAS HANGING OUT. It was cam my brother James Jet Alexander Wright and we'll go arguably they can all run four point. Three seconds in the forty yard dash their sleep. Kim was like how people understanding just how fast your brother is. We would all be doing sprints and literally the first zero to ten. Your brother is three yards ahead of us. My brother has that other worldly first stepped speed that you just said teach the DNA was passed on that When my father my mom would like together it's got to give it to right? That's how we're going to say okay but rocket Ismail who was runner up to Notre Dame for the Heisman in one of the fastest players. Who's ever played this sport? They said he was clocked under four. Two separate one nine was his official and your best was sore three to slow. I mean it's fast but that's slow that size but it's slow it will get you by people but it won't like the back the back. Oh thank you had the chance again. Like four three. Four three is one of the fastest times in the NFL when when you were playing. But you're not even close to being the fastest guy in your own family at the time. Correct yeah it was like she was run and I just. I've learned learn how people talk about being competitive. You go BRA. I've learned the art of being content. There Blow Oh and then there is no give versus slow. I would do. I'll give them a slow. I'm content with being just average fast. The four average fast in your in your household what do you what do you think rocket would run the forty now so we actually actually. WE'RE UP IN NEW YORK. He was inducted in the College Football Hall of fame. And you know we're sitting there and I'm watching his highlight tapes. And I think Laurie Holt was up up. There was was no great stars. This highlight northbound state. And then my brother's got up on the house. I O unreal. Just leave and I think I could take them now. Though I think I can't he had some ice cream up one day is looking a little bit different. Take them it took. It took a long time but finally got him. Where you where you want him where you can finally beat your brother in the forty yard dash forty nine years? I'm ghetto Kadre great to hear from you and have fun with the Ravens. Maybe we'll see the super bowl and give our best. Your brothers will ask amount all Qadri Ismael former. NFL Wide Receiver. I think he actually had a better pro. Career than rocket. Did rocket went a few years. Canada right yeah but he put up some good numbers there in the NFL but rocket was a that was a different gear. There's just certain guys that you see and you go all that's different and rocket was one of those guys all right. We'll take a break play of the day coming up and we'll get the results should fritzy be able to do his mock. Well what do we call on these. Your your your holiday sports name. That's fine holidays. I work all right. We'll check out the poll results here and play the days up next year on the Dan. Patrick Show if you you purchase applies for a business you know it's nearly impossible to find everything you need in one place and that's why there's Zoro dot com where the number one goal is to make your life easier Zoro dot com. That's Z.. O. R. O.. 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Knows anchors a better word anxious actresses like nervous that okay. I don't want you guys to follow my lead. You can laugh if you want so if I laugh you don't have to laugh and if I don't laugh you you can still laugh okay. An honest assessment of Todd's sports related holiday names. And here we go. Oh No don't we don't. We need music. Do we have anything holiday music to help out todd a something a little more festive. Yeah Yeah we could do that. Let's see what you got if we really need to. Yeah I think we do. Oh you know it's the song we just talk about. Hold on a second okay. I like to dress this up if we can. It's it's like putting your rings on a pig. Sorry this is on my the. That's unnecessary. Okay on a pig all right lipstick on on a pig house slightly better here we go. Here's tons festive holiday. Sports related name. I only just read them real fast. Because there's a lot of names save some. I'm for next segment. You don't want to see how you do with a Syracuse. Alum Rock Eam Christmas Christmas. That's I think that's a good one. Dig Out of the hat. They're your your. You've lost me on how about Mary. Decker Slaney Merry decker-slaney. Martin Saint Louis Martin Saint Louis. We Chestnut mcglockton. Christmas Saint Saint Saint. That's not part of Christmas saints. It's not a thing you're off to a bad start ain't Nicholson you're nick. Saint Nicholas Lidstrom. Say Nick Swisher I save it. I don't know if it's just not mcglockton. I liked that one. Chesterman Glenn Okay. There's a British Olympic triathlete named Bethlehem Potter Beth potters with Bethlehem autre. I was reach Adam. Silver Silver Bells. Jack Snow. We get that whenever you frost. Chili Davis natively Thurman. Who is who is Dave difference was a major league baseball? Pitcher gave from kind of pitch for the angels and the Red Sox awesome. Nate is pretty funny. I liked that Kyle. Rudolph recent guests on the show There's no sobering robbery. We did that. One Donner mattingly up up to the Slave Donner mattingly. Does anybody help you with these. Should all right I had A. I had you Leo. Jones owns you. Leo Joe Julio Darius Slay and Bam Daria Slant Yeah Yeah Call Beasley Colin Clawson like Santa Claus. Jimmy Clausen work with me a little bit. I know that much. Better Than Star of David Robinson got to get the Jewish folk involve Tim guilty. You'll never get what that is guilty. The chocolate money league a Tim Gill. These a director of public relations are used to be for the Denver Nuggets in Gilts Tim Guilt Perfect. Ronnie Locke's you'll love your potato with applesauce Marlin Maccabi Marlin Mack. Okay all right. Oil Can delay the Oil the light with oil. That's a Jewish thing. We'll talk about that point. I think I'm enjoying Hanukkah names way better than overall holiday. And you're gonNA love Julie Foudy got up to. I got here Joe Hornets Joe Horn Horn. Yeah okay grief if you have a list but you're talking about Patrick Patrick which you're actually we. We're doing good in a bad way or bad in a good way. You're not GonNa get this one either unless you've played with adrenal recently Justin Gimelstob. That's one of the Hebrew letters on the radar. Radel kin is the new one. The GIMMEL is the. Hey and that's how I got John Hagel former forty nine or quarterback Michael None or noon and is you've got none which is a christmasy thing a little bit but Michael Noonan Nunez also on wait. Wait what is it none. I don't like Chris like when you go to midnight. Mass another shop to midnight mass. No not allowed to go. I don't think they'll be the first people seated I I. I don't see the nuns when I got Michael noon. Again is another Hebrew letter on the top Lady on Belle de Ngelo Hall at inducting them Sterling Shepard. Do you hear what I hear. Shepherd boy stewardship Antonio Parson Brown. He's been the news you still haven't. I gave you this a couple of years. Andy Midnight Master Smith. I know you're loving messersmith. But it's midnight masterson. Good Ron eggnog. Lav Ron Ron Egg. LOFTA BRONCO tight. End Ron ignorance not good either. Okay Hanukkah Sorenstam. There you go see. What are you going to be a top opera top Raphael Landis Toy astronaut builders show like he for Yuletide won't go with Yuli Gurriel who is his own team's first baseman spin? And that's even better. That's why we throw. It played in twenty five years. But it's Chestnut McLaughlin today. That's what makes this is so raphael and destroy like a toy it wrapping it up Randy Cross Rick Upchurch Rowdy Roddy Piper Piping Jesus shuttles worth highschool seven wins. Swans are swimming. Okay goose gossage and geese ostby five. Golden Tate's five Golden Golden Richards depending on backing up four Larry Bird three French. If you qualify and it project Pear Tree Rollins Nerlens Noel Angel Cabrera. Ken Naughty Junior can naughty junior if he knows. If you're not you're nice I remember that. From last year. Vonnie Holliday Michelle Kwanza. AW inclusive inclusive Andy Maldonado pilot of creating George Kilcoyne. I have a lot of others is. Yeah no no no I do. I hope we recorded. I'm just GONNA. I'm just GONNA play this next year. Mike Tannenbaum L. Fred Williams Elf. Alfred Williams quadruple missile the mistletoe. We had the MISTLETOE. WanNa check in Bobby silent night from shifty. He tweeted that. Sorry America during the season of giving we'd like to offer you a little something special and all we're asking in return is a few moments of your time. We need you to complete a short survey because your opinion matters to us and help support the show. It'll the only take a couple of minutes and if you're one of the first people to do it we'll give you reward in return. Just go to podcast one dot studying and everything will be right there for you. 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"Announced. La mama Momo's year two thousand hanging out. Dave mcmenamin goes stop by next hour. Also, sit three were checking with us talk. We'll Turney so the NFL can generally not necessarily happy with LeBron James explain in a second. So when Nina kinds was in here couple of weeks ago, we were talking about the Tonio Brown situation. And we were talking about how Antonio Brown one. Right. And it's rare that in the NFL player beats the system. Now granted few guys have the talent Antonio Brown has or the situation the leverage in the situation that he had to be able to pull that off. But I did love the fact that he was able to tell the NFL go shove it or his team in that particular case, and he now ends up being an Oakland raider playing for Jon Gruden your raiders old white power structure. Yeah. Exactly. So that would mean, and I were were seriously discussing, you know, halfheartedly was that if you're an NFL team, you don't want one of your players going on the shop because. The story came out today where NFL executives told the Monday morning quarterback that I'm sorry. Then tell the Monday morning told one of our guys at ESPN NFL executives several of them anonymously said they don't love the fact that Antonio Brown has basically ruined the system for them or being the system for them. Oh my goodness. So players are thinking for themselves and advocating for themselves. It's like, hey, guys, come on keep just just keep that down. Now, we don't do that in the NFL. We don't let players do what they want. Here. The dangerous, quote is executives worried and Tonio Brown may have set a way dangerous precedent out Ramona, not talk about things that are that is not danger. God forbid, somebody thinks for themselves and actually somebody gets something bid there. Not of you. Right. I mean, usually the threat of we can cut you no matter what. Because your money is not guaranteed is enough to scare players for and then on. The back end of that they get cut. And if you get seen as somebody who is not a company man, and doesn't know your place doesn't know how to stay in your lane. Then other teams won't sign you you kinda get what happened to capture Nick. And who's the other guy who was in that lawsuit? Can't remember, you know, we don't want somebody who's going to be a disruptor fig about this in the context of what we saw with us last week, and whenever the whole player versus owner ownership in management of the NFL. I was thinking about the NBA where at least a lot of these guys if they when they put their body in the line, if something happens that they're protected financially for a guarant- like guaranteeing, the NBA guaranteed, and that always bothers me in the NFL, and I get that some guys have the big signing bonuses that is supposed to make up for some of that. But for a game that violent and these guys get hurt. And then we don't even really because it's everybody we don't even focus on it that much when it happens because it's it's kind of like, well, yeah. You signed his contract three years ago. We don't think about the potential money down the line that there. Missing out on that the NBA players have in their pocket. Yeah. I mean, it's the only leverage NFL players have ever had is the the willingness to sit out to hold out and most of the time they hold out and end up in camp. Anyway, it doesn't just ended up costing people time and money. It's a good point remote. Not only that though they have to look bad. Right. Because they're the ones holding out. And then what happens is some of their teammates. Actually, like, we what we wish she was here. Like some turns though, right? It it starts out like, oh support supportive, and then there's a point there. There's a breaking point because the season's coming. They feel like they want to win and that this person's impeding that progress. So right all those things play a role in now. People say levian bell lost and financially. He did. But I also believe he said a precedent, right? And he was he had enough conviction to say, you know, what I feel like I'm getting screwed. And I'm not I this franchise tag is stupid. And I've been franchise tag multiple times now, and I'm not playing through that. I'm not playing with a one year deal. How much of his how much of his money is guaranteed, and do you know if hand? I can tell I think it's thirty five. So the one one get the I get the pure math argument about how he's left some money on the table. But maybe this is a dumb argument, but just go with me, he's essentially he's pushing the clock back a bid where some of the money is coming in basically a year later, and so it's so he he was basically able to just work on his body this year almost even recover from all the hits and stuff that he's taken previous years now assuming that you say in game shape, which I'm sure he does. And so that to me doesn't a hundred percent reflect a loss of money because he could tears ACL and not going to happen. And then and then he's going to have more guaranteed money now coming in if he gets hurt this year than if he would've just played out his deal last year and got hurt. Yeah. So he says, I make any sense. Yes. It does four years fifty two and a half million with the max value with incentives that can get him up to sixty one which then also includes thirty five million guaranteed. Yeah. Thirty five and what what had he had Pittsburgh offering him. I think it was. Rows over. But from the franchise tight, it was they had they had discussed an extension that was similar to that. But it was highly deferred money from what I remember reading that that the money on Levy on bells offer from the Steelers was like similar geared, maybe slightly less guaranteed money. And it was deferred. Like, so in other words, you're not getting that money for a while. Like, you get it years and years later, I personally have always liked deferred money. I think that's a smart thing for any professional athlete because one you're going to get it anyway, and you might as well, get yourself paid for like Zach Randolph has one of those contracts. He's still getting paid. Ten years Gillian and a quarter from the Mets not bad. Yeah. You know? I always think those are smart only argument against is does the simple if you have all of the money, then you can invest in the careers, but you have to be disciplined enough to be able to do that. And I think that sometimes people aren't like it's why lottery winners end up going bankrupt at a very high clip. With the what's the LeBron other than just well, exactly? I think it's the trailblazer that it's the NBA model and mean, and I talked about it that is prevailing into the NFL song. So LeBron representing the NBA model the player empowerment Mago and an NFL people are terrified of it as they should be. Because I do think it sets a precedent. And I think that again, not everybody is in Tonio around and can manage this the way that he managed it. But I do think that there's going to be a couple of more guys down the line that are going to do this. Julio Jones is coming up soon. He was a guy that was not happy with his situation in Atlanta. I mean, why receivers are gonna get singled out here. But I do think it's going to come a point where every position outside a quarterback. Yeah. Is going to want to look at this. So there's very few players who are good enough to have that kind of leverage because in football, the only players who who are typically worth it our quarterbacks, right? Who are worth that kind of leverage in. Basketball. I think this is what you get into. When we talk about the anti clutch sports as aviation anti LeBron sentiment of around the league. It's not so much that people hate LeBron or hate Rich, Paul it. I mean, they do I I don't think that they're popular amongst owners and and in the NBA, right? But it's the it's the precedent that LeBron and rich and that that idea of take less money or take less guaranteed. So that you have maximum leverage at all time ask for a trade. But with two years left on your deal that is very distabilise ING for an organization, and we've seen a lot of trades now in the last couple of years where where you can trace this like Jimmy Butler asked for trade, right and Paul George. He didn't ask retrea Kawai all of these all of these type. These superstar players are now making. In their displeasure known and taking their career into their own hands. Not letting it just be dictated by ownership, and that is very distabilise into a franchise, especially to a small market franchise. And I think the sense is LeBron and his has sort of started that trend coming up next LA's. Biggest sports moment was voted on. We'll tell you what it was all time this past year. I'll call we'll tell you what it was in just a moment. Plus, we're giving away an El Torito gift certificate. Right. We're doing that. So we're going to give that away. We're gonna give that away once the male tomato right now, we could meet then. Meet that orders to put it in the fridge permits, but I think there might some still being but we're gonna well thereto gift certificate. Stick around for that. That's going to happen. We're going to do it here in the next half hour. How about that? So stick around for that, mama, mama here. Trudell here's Saddam show. ESPN LA sit down show here on ESPN. LA mama Momo here. Trudell hanging out. Have you gone full sonata lately you've been very mellow and cool and chill and we need. Let's get after it. Oh, let's get after after Momo. And I had just before you walked in. We had a very measured conversation about where the Lakers are. And what their season has been like. But it was people. You know, everyone measure does not full Sodano. It's not it's been a bit. I don't know. There hasn't been anything. That is really like gotten me to the point where I'm like that like fired up like I mean, what is say you look you bought me a pop during the break your moon in west. Yeah. I mean, you're, but there's nothing that's been smiley every time. I've seen you lately. Yeah. And we're all kind of over it. My six month old sleeps. Now, that's what I was gonna say. I mean helps your daughter is working on her first hip hop album. I mean, there's just everything's going. So I just wanna see the full Senate will come out at some point. Something's got to happen. Yeah. Something's got to happen to get me fired up. Like that case big, you know, Catholic on that salads on how we doing solids now. Yeah. Yeah. He's loving it. I mean, we still get you know, he's still got the breast milk going on. But we're doing solids, and he loves it. He loves it. That's next week for me. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's six months. Yeah. Yeah. We we could just talk about parents probably for the for the. It's the donnas like moved on. He's like onto the playoffs. I am. He has he's to be in playoff mode here soon, or are you going? What's your I I won't vote. We won't know until the last minute. Don't have any say over it. I don't I have suggested some place. I'd like, oh, look the reality is this. Okay. Look if you guys let me go. Now this works. I mean, the inside who's I Breen Jeff Van Gundy? And Mark Jackson that team will recess Saulters us. Sometimes they'll split her up as the analyst be an analyst. I join join them in the conference finals and finals. So at least salters is with that group. And you know, they get whatever game they they get Golden State or whatever, you know, whatever they want. So I'm not doing any warriors games. Like there's that. All right. So then the next group is probably a combination of either Mark Jones Huby Brown and. Izzy gutierrez. Okay. Maybe. And then that group will probably do the top team in east. Right. And then there's the group of Dave Pasch, Doris Burke and Cassidy hover. Yep. And then they'll get third pick. And then it's me with like Ryan Ruko and PJ Carlesimo and we'll get the fourth pick. Oh, okay. That's just kinda how it goes is. They're looking at like, okay. See, you know, maybe Portland Utah. Yeah. And then Denver Denver, potentially. Then out east, you you'd be looking at, you know, I don't think I think Philly would go to one of the better teams better broadcast teams or the more high profile broadcasts Detroit's that's not exactly. Yeah. I I guess you don't Boston. Maybe a possibility Boston in the enemy a possibility that can happen. So that's kind of what I'm looking at right now. Maybe Brooklyn in Toronto that could be I could see that one being thing. It'd be fun when I'd be I listen, I'm okay with Brooklyn Toronto to great city. Yeah. So like, that's the thing this spring selfishly. I look at that. I look at where what cities can I go to? And have a nice time. Yeah. So even though in Toronto, though, I'm going to have to use the Greg Bergman read it streams to watch American television. So you know, there's that that bugs me, it's not right? I mean, it just get your act. I a buddy moved there this year. And so I. House Congo, and he had the type of cable package where you could see most you can get a premium or not not the hotel. No hotels, you at the hotel bars, you have a better chance than in the actual room, and they had like five channels. They're just all playing hockey and curling. Well, there's and there's NBA TV Canada. Yeah. But it's it's not the same. Yeah. You gotta go do the Greg Berkman thing. I mean, that's like the most fun part of the playoffs is when you can you're covering the playoffs. And then on your off days, you watch all the other games. Right. It's fun right hotel room. Everybody goes out and finds a sports bar, go hang out team Bondi. Yeah. And especially if you know, I'm I'm hanging out with PJ Carlesimo during the. I'm getting the best restaurants on the tour. You know, every single time restaurant lists. Yeah. John black is used to have a great restaurant list. Every city like the best spots. Ireland gave me one mahogany in. Okay. See which I thought was very good. Yeah. That is a famous restaurant. Remember when Kevin Durant came back, and he wanted to have like a team dinner. Yeah. For his guys. And the owner of mahogany said sorry. This is a thunder restaurant. You're not welcome here. C A K D. Yeah. And then we'll there. Just showed up anyway. Right. And sat in the public section, right? For all to see. Yeah. That was one of my that was one of my stakeout stories. That was like I was covering this. And I got a tip you'll pay. Hey, katie's though tell we stay is right across the street from that. So I could just see mobile up there like with Benach. Operatic. I am the worst. Okay. You're loud. Am terrible at it. Yeah. You're laughing all the time you're smiling. You stick out like that? Because you're, you know, do you remember when Dwight Howard had meetings at his agents office in Beverly Hills. And there was a twelve year old kid or something. Anyway. So there was this. There was like a, you know, five or six teams we're going to be with Dwight Howard Beverly Hills. And I found out where it was the location was the approximate times where so one day Shelley Smith went down there. And she was there when the hawks came by remember hawks in on that. And then I went there. I knew what time the Laker meeting was I think it was maybe it was ten o'clock. And so I stood out in front of the building. It was just like a office building in Beverley hills, and my producer and the cat. Another camera guy stood in the parking garage. So there was like one way or another. We were going to get entrance in exits K, and I'm standing there, and I'm kinda like loitering, right? Like literally loitering on a street corner in Beverly Hills. Like, I mean, not exactly Pretty Woman style. But like just, you know, randomly standing there. Trying to look like I belong. Or pretending. A phone iphone, right? And I'm just like playing around on my phone to do and you know, trying to not look weird. And all of a sudden, I got a call on my phone, and it's my camera guy. He's like did you get them? I hope. I know who he's like dude dantonio Seve Nashes walked right in the front door right in front of you. And I'm like where are you on your phone in the notice, I was just facing the other way? And I didn't even see them like they literally pulled up in front of the building. I was standing there with like my back to the building or whatever it was. I just wasn't looking completely missed him. Thank the worst 'paparazzi. So anyways, the mahogany store. Yeah. Was when Kevin Durant? There was this big thing of his return back here. And he's still shows up. And I got a tip from somebody who is at the restaurant. Oh, Kevin Durant actually here. Yeah. After all that regard. He's public sector. I left the arena, and you went to mahogany hustled over to Mahajan right across the street. Muscle because I had to get there in time and I saw him. And I said, hey, Kevin. And he looked at me. And he was like Hello. And I said can I take a picture because I'm about to say that you're here, and I would like to have proof that you're actually here. And he says I mean, I don't really want all that. And I just did it anyway. But I'm so dumb. I had the flash on you. Fancy awkward. I was like I'm just going to go. So why did you hold on? Why did you ask? If you if you're planning I wanted like say, yes. And he didn't know. Do. Is weird. Or if you if you tell him you're going to sell much wear to ask him and then like. See the move you do there as bad my only stakeout Obama. I only stakeout was my my flash off in the restaurant. Like, oh, my last thing was Ray Allen, leaving the Celtics coming to the heat. And I I happen to live right down the street from the hotel. He was staying at and I was walking my dog and the pool area is right by the sidewalk and I saw him. So I snapped. I I walked past him. Yeah. I turned around and I snapped the picture, and I sent it in and and that so then they were like, oh, we'll find out where he's going next. So they always go to prime on twelve in Miami. That's what I staked out the restaurant across the street, which is fine minute talian. And it turned out they were on to me, and they went to another restaurant. So I'm with you. But I, but that's the move. You gotta take the picture from faraway, even you zoom in that. Would that be? Shootout just did it to visit. Again without permission. So Kevin seen you if you were just from a distance. Yeah. I I don't know. I thought I was just going to be a little more a front about it. And then it just got really awkward when the flash went off. And it was like oh for sure. All right. So coming up next. We didn't get to the L A L as Sports Council voted on their biggest moment of the last calendar year. We'll tell you what that is Donald show starts. Plus what's trending? No. It's actually it's not even in the top. Megan after we get after it nets savannah show here on ESPN LA get to what's trending here in just a second a couple of Kobe stories in what's trending. Yeah. So we'll get to that shortly. But I was telling you guys in the break Mason was making a big deal when you were in here Momo the last time that he wanted to beat me in our fantasy basketball league that I said, I haven't even said a lineup in a month. Like, I'm not in the money like who cares? And he called my pride out in front of you, Dan. Yeah. He did. Yeah. So I said, okay. So since that day about a week or so. Ago. I decided to set my lineups trying a little I was down eight I am now only trailing him by four and a half points in in just about nine days of actual trying. So I am I am I have waged war on Steve lean well looming though, we're both out of the money. You know? Well, there's there's no money in this league, though, we just we just play for pride. But Mason, look, I've a lot of respect for Mason, especially as a radio host. He is not as good of a basketball expert as you. I've literally taken last weeks off of this league one I will still probably catch it. But this league is a reflection of how much you watch basketball. Right. It's just it's super deep. They're fourteen teams. I know every guy in every roster. And I think so Mason, I think has that level of baseball intellect would he would do very well in fancy baseball being this league now Mason's good. But I I would have if you asked me before the season who's gonna finish higher Sodano where Mason, I would have said. Yeah, it's going to be Saddam. Right. She'll have decided to try again, due disrespect the fact that you have kind of neglected. He was almost six follow up into team. And I'm thinking about kicking out a league for that. But since it's your first year. Yeah. Mulligan wwl game. And I hope that you don't do this nectar hadn't done the rodeo thing in basketball. So it was very strange actually do it that way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That way. And I think oh, no I have I went into this. I do more head to I've done for you. I like the road stuff better. Head to head to me it ended up especially with players resting all the time. You can have long involves lucky have weird we have to. Yeah. Romo is more of a true reflection of what's going on but skirts and life has luck involved. So I feel like that, you know, sometimes things like I remember in one of my leagues and not to get too far off the bench. You guys don't care about our leagues. But I think you like the the competitiveness between us. I remember I went like twenty and two I had the best team. And then I lost the finals, it just happens that that look the the Golden State Warriors blew three to one lead it happens famous. Well, so so this league though is a as offense to the should be the right? It's a mix of intelligence and effort says the same thing as real life. You have to know what you're doing and to put time, it's great, Doug. You'll catch up next. You're listening case be in Los Angeles before we get to what's trending Trudell is upset because he's not gonna finish first or second in the his own league. For the first time down the little dictator over. A ringer. His best friend hired. A winner says what happens the ringer? That's right. So so one of my best this I think is going since twenty ten and I've always finished one or two out of fourteen in part of that again, it is my job to follow league on a daily basis. And I watch a lot of game. He wants to win his only and I wanna win meiomi. I I'm gonna win digs league this year. Least well what he's making a push. But anyway, so my friend who always finishes middle of the pack. I notice I'm like man, you want a great draft that what happened this year? And eventually I realized that he has hired this guy who does analytics for the Vikings like a professional stat nerds who knows exact and those basketball and may start doing some stuff with NBA teams. And he has some system you probably had spreadsheets he has whatever websites, and he has been I almost all year. I thought I have tried to get Tom Harris show to go in on a team with me like from your guys he doesn't do fantasy basketball. He says, and I'm like come on, man. Just help me out here. One time. That right. Entice them. He's still not interested. He is a man of honor. He said. So anyway, let's get to what's hot and what's going on out there. What's trending is brought to us by a friends at the dudes brewing company with five tasting rooms in southern California. And torn Santa Monica, Santa Clarita, Huntington beach Thousand Oaks torture beer from the source or learn more about the dudes brewing company. Visit their website. 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So if you wanna do it you can enter their contests cable, TV dot com. That's where you find the contest I next we've got what? Oh, so everyone familiar with Bobin mar Ianovich there. John of each. Thank you. Thanks show. Apparently yesterday, he was he was doing a little Mamba mentality. He was taking shots, and he took a shot kind of a weird kind of shot put shot down run of the free throw line and yelled Kobe what he took the shot. Nice. And then he says now that he can make the shot. He will now transition to yelling, bogey. Yeah. He was sort of he was sort of fading as as as as like a seven three guy could fade because he's not jumping that high. So it's hard of a fadeaway jump shot. Just what's basically a set shot shot? He's he sort of did it was like a fadeaway set shot is how I would describe it. And then he L Kobe, right? So it's kind of dumb. But now he says he's getting now that he can make it. He says he's gonna start yelling. He might. He might be one of say five players in the league that everybody likes that. Nobody ever really doesn't negative word about bovin. Yeah. For sure day mcmenamin is popped into everybody. Show. The next story today is the anniversary of Michael Jordan hitting his famous shot in one thousand nine hundred eighty two in the NCAA tournament. He says that's when he went from just a Mike Jordan to Michael Jordan. What is the most? I feel like I know Dave's answer here. What is the best or biggest shot that you can recall in NCWA tournament history? Yeah. I know what had gone just go right ahead. I mean, the six first-half threes from Gerry McNamara, right? Seven thousand three go onto beat Kansas eighty one seventy eight, but it was really the block, right? Key more. Yeah. Getting the block on michelina corner. That's Edney ties at UCLA, man. First round gaming. Oh second. I think of second. There's only one there's only one answer this question later. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's where I was like ties Eddie coast to coast. Yeah. Very. And they go on to win at all if it's early like, you know, there's the Valparaiso price. Right. That's a great shot, obviously. But yeah, I'm only counts because they go onto win. Right. Right. Like if they would have lost the next game doesn't matter here. So to me like those pivotal type shots now. I was at a Julie game this year withdrew Nichols. Who hit a? Oh, yes. Or beater for Maryland. Right. That's we talked about fifteen years after hit the shot. Still being brought up next. We've got the Philly fans already booing Bryce Harper. He went over three in his hyperlink game. And they after after the third strikeout they were booing him already surprised or not surprised though. I only want to question the framing of this just for argument's sake. I I read I read an article that said that for the most part he got sheared wildly throughout the game. Right. And then he had the third ASO a couple of Bluebirds. But so it was it was people's loud. Did you hear it was loud? I heard the audio. You're the man. That's all right. Let me let me defer then to our Philadelphia native, David, Dave, what do you say for people? Great columnists, Mike C L ski in Philly. That's what became aware I became aware of it through through his rendition of it. And I trust that it was real buse, but get to know like your fan base. There's he knows you knows the great and awards. Already Jersey's top selling jersey by far according to fanatics website since he signed with affiliates. So there's some clear support coming his way, but their standards here. So it's okay. It's also kind of isn't that part of the thing? If you're if you grow up in that Phillies, sports culture, then it isn't even necessarily always a super bad thing. If you do. Yeah. Yeah. I mean draft day sort of the thing you kind of it's like a right of passage almost I think so. Yeah. And you know, he'll get all their love back by his performance hopefully this year day booth. Mike Schmidt there. What every fan base? Like, no, no anybody who's not been booed by their families Sadan over so yesterday. We I was on from my house happens every day on this show. I'm here. The people in their cars yelling. From my house during the dodger game and talking to Saddam about basketball and my son's sprint down. The stairs anti knows. I'm doing radio. She's trying to upstairs sprint down the stairs. Like daddy. The dodgers at six homers. And I was like I had seen one or two thought they were just exaggerating met runs. Yes. They literally eight inch in the time in like a fifteen minute period. That I was started. That was when they had the back to back to back. And I thought they were joking nothing like that. So that's that's the fun part. At least for me about the baseball season's the boys are reengaged again. The dodgers are mashing a million home runs. Now. Speaking of news out of southern California. United Airlines, did you know that they were trying to buy the naming rights to the Coliseum now familiar with that story. So they were and United Airlines offered on Friday to withdraw from sixty nine million dollar deal to change. The Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum to the United Airlines Memorial Coliseum following criticism that adding corporate name is disrespectful. To the facilities history of honoring troops who fought in died in one. Now, this was a deal that they made with USC because USC I guess, yes. He owns it. All right in their last deal with the they right? They own that stadium. Do you believe that there could have found a way to kind of make this? What do you believe it was disrespectful? Let's start there Ramona now, I don't think it says respectful, but I think, you know, this is kind of what happens now as United Airlines said that they did keep memorial in in the name on campus that was kind of their goal. I think that we are to the stage where nobody knows any history anymore. Right. Like people probably didn't even realize that the memorial that it was the Memorial Coliseum because of World War One, right, right and veterans. I don't I think probably people just didn't even have that sense or that sensitivity. And then when it's brought up. It's like, oh, that's something we need to care about right? And I think like that's just a function of our modern world where things change like, you know. All these times where somebody new will come to town and start talking about like David I've covered the Lakers for a long time. Mike you've covered Lakers for a long time. Like somebody will bring something up that happened like in two thousand eight and it's like revelatory to them. And you're like, yeah. I know I was there. Remember that? Yeah. Like if you were here, but like that's kind of how it is. With like, the younger generation that comes along, or it's also kind of outrage culture run amok. Listen, like, I'm not by any means not trying to disrespect what that intended to honor the fallen, right? But how about a tangible donation to a veteran charity right that that's taken from the naming room? Yeah. Take sixty two million Donut mill to the or something isn't that the knees solution here, everybody's happy? Now. Well, are you going to do better for veterans than you know, a naming right anyway? Yeah. I would agree. But I it clearly they go to the they've decided to withdraw at this point. They're like, yeah. We don't need the grief airlines. That's kind of their stance. Not I've been working on some some stories. I don't want. I don't want to step on this too much. But the whole naming rights thing, basically got started by Dr bus and the great western forum before anybody really thought of interesting, and they kind of thought of okay. Well, there's Wrigley field. But that was the Wrigley family. They used that ended up being kind of a marketing thing, but actor BUSTER sort of came up with that. And now every team is collecting millions. Turned into Washington mutual. Didn't they I believe as a Bank? Okay. So here, here's a even more to that story. So there was a what it was is like the Lakers were Jerry Buss has is a family business. He sold off all his real estate to go by the Lakers. And then the Lakers were their source of income. And there there came a point where he wasn't exactly flush with cash, and he says to a friend of his who I've talked to and told me the story like I need to find a way to come up with cash like I need to like create a new Reverend stream, and the friend said like, you know, when you fly over L, the the form you always fly over it. When you go into Alexa. If you just put something on top of it. It's very memorable from the top. So that's that was one of the ideas that they had is like Staples. Right. Put it on top of the building. Because you always fly over it. It'd be like a really good idea and one thing led to another. And that's how that deal got done with the great. We like great western savings and loan, but it just became the great western forum. That's what's trending brought to us by friends at the dudes, bring company speaking of endorsements five tasting rooms and southern California Santa Monica, Santa Clarita, Torrance, Huntington beach at Thousand Oaks door to hear from the source. Visit their website the dudes brew dot com. Coming up next trails out mcmenamin is in. We will grill mcmenamin about his Shourie grilling will happen next.

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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 2

"Right. Bunk ride. Do. So the question just started I asked in, I think that the Lakers are going to be asking themselves is, do you go and try to do a deal for Jimmy Butler now and and look, I would imagine if you're going to go and trade for Jimmy Butler, you're not only interested in him short term, but you're interested in him long-term as well. Which for me, I'm out on Jimmy Butler long-term. I'm I'm really worried about the miles and what he's going to age into. And especially with an already I already have an aging star on my team and LeBron James, the question in Toronto with why is a much different one, because I feel like his game is going to age a lot better. I think that he's been a guy the again, we're talking about two players. He's he's arguably the best player in the game. He's better shooter all all of these sorts of things. Do you wait and maybe run the risk of getting none of this or do you pull the trigger on Jimmy Butler? Well, here I'm going to read some numbers off t. Tell me. They appeal to you. Okay. Forty. Seven percent from the field twenty two points. Five assists five boars eighty five percent from free throw line thirty, five percent three three point shooter. That's the first. Yeah. All right. Can we can use that? Sure. Then who coached him that season was tips. Yeah, but the previous season which was wasn't with tips. He gives you twenty four points a game. He gave you five rebounds gave you six six, he gave you. So what I'm saying is he's been fairly consistent with or without tips, and he hasn't shown what you're talking about at all as yet. In fact, he shot a career high from the field with Taleb's last season. So I get what you're saying that you know, a guy can be run down to the ground Barreiro in his first season. He only play eight minutes a game, his second seeds, he played twenty six minutes a game. The Bron James came out the gate giving you thirty five. So we're talking about a guy who really didn't start playing significant minutes until about four seasons ago. Four or five seasons ago. I don't care how much tips continue. He can't kill a guy and for season, not sure. I believe that. Right? But that last guy you're right up until never the most. He's plate now back into fourteen fifteen season. Now he did try to kill him. Like thirty nine minutes of gay. Yeah, that that was a lot. That's too much that was too much, but he he eased off of it. Drop them down in like thirty six minutes. I had already told you, he's fine. He's not fine point. I guess the more I look at these. Exactly. Top role dog you're gonna play. You go play thirty minutes plus, but he's played nearly forty key. Almost forty back to back sees Emma statistics, but you don't do that though. Why? 'cause you the dog you to lead dog. That's what they expect for you to be on the floor you to guy. He can't do you know to warriors like that Golden State words of has success largely in part that the guys stayed healthy, how did he demand him to stay healthy, not playing forty minutes. Deep that's not fair, Golden State's benches and deep. Well, they got enough active players. They they could pull guys off the flu. Fear, little Honey, play the young have to leave everybody on the floor all at once. I don't think they've ever had a guy that's hop twenty minutes played in their incredibly dishes with women twenty-five. Every damn game on I'm saying is, is that now that I've looked at the minutes per. I mean he hasn't played thirty five minutes ago unit the statistics. They matter. So the reason why I'm this conversation is because it sounds like Jimmy Butler is on the trading block in the timber. Wolves are gonna have to make a decision on him. Here's Adrian Watson, Rousey talking about the decision that the t. wolves are going to have to make. So if they have a sense that they're going to struggle to resign Jimmy Butler or he makes it clear that he will not resign you would expect that Minnesota's going to have to look at trading him before the February trade deadline, but understand Minnesota doesn't wanna do that. They want to try to win with this group, but they've got to see where they are with Butler and where he stands in their long term plans. So I guess the question that I have if I'm the Lakers is, do I have to have Jimmy Butler in the answer for me is no the question do a half to have coined Leonard is yes, that's the guy that whatever I need to do to get that done. I'm going to do it a guy or two fine, but the Jimmy Butler thing, if I can do it and pennies on the dollar for short-term now I'll do it because it's not going to, but the idea to a have to get Jimmy Butler, whatever it takes. Now let somebody else do as easy is easy though. That's not that's not hard. Of course you won't y. You'll do what I need. You know, you need to do to get it done because you tried to do that with with San Antonio, but they what they didn't want to do business with you, select their for eight ship, Tim, all to Toronto. Now you gotta figure out how to do that. But if Jimmy Butler comes to you any drops in your lap much like the Khalil Mack ram do you don't really is not there. You're not looking for, but it's there. So what do you want. Under that circumstance for sure. And that's in. That's okay. I'm not saying you sell the form to get Jimmy Butler, but I don't value Couve as much as I would Jimmy Butler in this type of situation in a short term because I can always get caught. I get Jimmy Butler it look. It always try to try to try to get them both. But if I grabbed Jimmy Butler in an are trying to get Hawaiian, he lands with us. Now we got Bullock Hawaiian LeBron and Ingram and and heart. And do you know I just missed it. I keep coming back to this. If the if the question is, do I want Jimmy Butler and what that might look like five years from now or two years from now or three years from now, or do I want Kyle Kuzma and what that might look like? She knows Ingram. Now, what. Yeah. I see. I still feel the same way about you short. Yeah. You see, they not go, Josh heart ache speed. That's hard. I don't want you take a Josh, are either for Jimmy. Yes. To doing that, Josh hosts going on your Josh. You can't trade them for Smith's Parker. Posey. You got to give up somebody. I'm going to give up. Somebody we don't have more about Kwami is communist. The guy from mich- Wagner mo- autrey Wagner form here. I'm gonna give you Wagner. Spe- spe-. You can have the. We might not might turn out to be something nice, but we'll give you mobile everything. I don't wanna give up Josh heart because I swear. That's Dirk fish. I don't disagree with that. And and I'm like, when when the championship time comes and that rockets swinging and a six seconds left, Josh is going knock that shot down. Yeah, yeah, but I believe it the want to get rid of that factor. The Jimmy Butler piece that I can't shake is two years from now. Jimmy Butler is petrified on the on the bench. You can't move. He's just not the guy that he was that he slowed down. Here's a breakdown in seven years as coach, seven years, come on guys. He just turned twenty nine but it's it's a Tibbs twenty nine. All right. See just turned thirty nine. Oh wait. He's twenty nine twenty nine and twenty. What's the date today might be his birthday actually eighteen Br, he turned twenty nine like four days ago. I'm more worried about the age now that I am the minutes Boca, put the two of them together key. It's the minutes, don't really bother me. I thought he was younger than that that LeBron LeBron's going to skew the whole thing because the Baronne is going into a sixteenth season in the league has played heavy minutes his entire career really and is still going strong. It's like, oh, he's the one in a trillion guy that's able to carry that kind of load and continue to play at the level that he has the the more traditional events Carnegie, you can't exactly. Ten minutes aren't for here. Here's the thing too. If you if you make a little run, Jimmy Butler, you're also playing defense, right? Because Jimmy Butler could still end up on another team that could be in our our way. What if he ends up in Houston? That's a problem. See upon Houston. That's the problem. I hear you see, you're working and then you look at the way that go to stay has been sneaky grabbing town and you keep going how they get this guy how to get this guy. I don't want us in being stay now. I mean, you got everybody else. Everybody else that wouldn't be fair. That wouldn't be fair boogie was okay. Well, how book that wasn't? That was, you know, nobody else wanted to play by the way. Let them go to Houston because that thing's going to be a hot mess. I right. But Jimmy makes for some of the defense that they gave up when a reason left. And when my booty left, Jimmy Butler is a really nice boy. I would love to have him. But what if he ends up? It's the price find clippers go. That's a problem. Nah, yes, it is. You know why? Because Kawai has also had said interest with the clippers as well. Now all of a sudden, see what I'm saying. You gotta pay checkers, Travis. He's gotta pay check as you go. If you go to the clippers over the Lakers and good luck. You're telling me what I need to know. He's being traded though, so he doesn't get the dictate where he's going, but but Kawai choas looking going. Okay. Do I want to be in the Brian shadow with the Lakers or do I want to team up with this young explosive team and Jimmy Butler with the clippers really be. Yes. Really deliver on on this. Percent all up in the really? Yes, from a variety of reasons. I don't think you'll be in the show because. For our biggest reasons I think is not only because LeBron's shadow was so massive. It's the biggest shadow in pro sports. But number two co is not a stand in the sunlight guy to begin with. Right? Yeah, but I don't think he would be in shadow saddle. Oh, think so. Because first of all, who is not looking for the attention, he wants to lay low and just play basketball and the central. That's. The concept of well, because I always had to, yeah, but one of them has always been the one that's willing to be to be number two for a period of time. You know, Kobe was being number two to shack wasn't. This is a perfect opportunity to be whatever you wanna call the number two yacht, like LeBron going be here for the next ten years. I mean, he's just not. He's not the best player on the team. He still going to be the guy that gets the most attention on the team. Yeah, that's just that's just what that just comes along with being a team LeBron let's try Monrovia this time and Patrick Patrick air on the morning show what's going on real quick to point guys. Thanks for taking my call and Travis. Welcome to the morning. They. Real quick. If you look up Josh heart stats from his first two years, he was trapped in the same. Take Jimmy Butler in their stats are almost identical except Josh Schwartz, who's better free throw. So you have a pretty high tradit directory with Josh Varney quite a bit younger. The other point is Golden State, Philly, and Boston, or through the best teams in the NBA. They've built it with their players and then try to add to it every team that's put a bunch of veterans together and have it win. The next thing comes around like, yeah, baked couldn't do it, but you know what? We're the Lakers we can do better. We're gonna do what no one else can do in week into a better Houston at Chris, Paul lot better. Jimmy Butler named beaten Golden State. We have something to simp-, you know something to build similar to Golden State. Why not see what we have. I mean, I, I kinda think Jimmy Butler. James harden, Chris, Paul and Clinton Clinton Capella have a pretty good chance of beating Golden State myself. It could. It could just towns factor did just that his presence immediately reduces your chances by fifteen thirty percent. It depends on. How to use it. I was playing NBA two k. but my son, the other day Kamala was hot, and I'm telling you, man. He was hitting shots. Did you have the hoodie on? No, he didn't have anybody headed on a warm ups. They did have them on there, but he was he was hitting Carmelo's. One of those fascinated b, obviously, hall of fame player, incredible talent, a guy that is been, you know what. In the league shows up your chances of winning. Just poof, fed is not right. He killed lampy. Right, but it's true. He's one gold medal. He's one NCW championship last Saddam ago by itself. All he didn't win that. Who wouldn't that the white do member Gerry McNamara recording. According to George Donohoe key. You got somebody who was. You've got a gun that's listening to what you say pretty closely in the morning because he's doing almost exactly what you said. I'll tell you who it is. That's next mornings, Keyshawn, z and Travis. So I know the people listen under the people are waiting on everything that you say key, but I didn't know that perhaps the head coach of SC clay Helton was going to be listened quite as closely because you showed me something in the paper today that he's kind of taken over as OC at least for a day in practice, at least for a Dame practice. He wanted to go get his hands, dirty coaching, the offense. If on t. Martin, I'm not loving that moment. If I'm an SC fan, I am because something has to change something has to be different than it's been in the last two games where they scored three points against Stanford, fourteen against Texas in warrant in either one of these games, it's time to do something drastic. And maybe that means t Martin does it gets call place. Well, listen, do this or not, but key. She is a part of they. He does. He doesn't like to wear to t shirts. He doesn't like to brag about it. He likes to be mimbo, you know, goes from we and us, and then back today and then them our and yours you guys you guys, but then he weas right back into he is part of they and I'm sure you know, where are we? This morning key. We are. We, we now where we. Okay, go ahead. So Klay held in his is yesterday a practice. Apparently he was playing off its coordinator which means he was running the offense. He was there. He was standing next to t basically instructing what the offense should do. They actually moved up practice or whatever. The case is too because of the Friday play against Washington state is I guess he decided that he was going to participate in the offense of why does he just fire them? I've take guys job having stand next to you after you've worked with him for all these years. You know what that is, you know you say you don't know what that is. He knows what you know what this is, what that is, why not just fire him and just assume the OC job? Well, what happens in you guys have never been in the situation because neither one of you have played professional sports have been around coaches when they getting ready to get fired. My main Travis has probably been at UC Santa Barbara. Seeing the coaches on pins and needles and walking on thin ice and all those sorts of things you at the YMCA. Been able to see some things. Some people at the wash. Certainly what happens. Any situations is he's putting all coaches on notice because especially on the offense, assign a ball, they lying. Oh, okay. So he's probably a little more active in the offense to install in terms of game planning. They put the game plan together against Washington state. He's probably a little more active in that. He's probably more active out on the practice field because that's just what the offense coordinator just start to do. And he said, you know, wanted to do in practice was a little more chippy. Apparently it was, you know, some enjoy thrown hood Shroff Sosa fire. But to me, that's fake because he wasn't that way several months ago. So all of a sudden, because your seat is hot, you start, you know, screaming holler and it's like, come on man, stop. That's not even who you are, who you know be who you are. I understand you want to call the plays clay, just call a. place. You don't have to fire t. just take it away from him. You don't have to find Phillip the water bucket. I mean. Coach, two receivers, you Costa receivers, see to moat him. Yeah, people get the Motorola. Man. I wa- I watched is from a professional level I watched in nineteen ninety eight as we was getting ready to make an AFC championship run. It might have been the fourth game of the year. I watched Parcells make Charlie weis ask, come out of the press box instead on the side with us after he was calling plays in the first half the second half, he was standing up who why? Charlie down here. He's usually in the box. Why did he do it? Because he didn't like the way he was calling the plays so wouldn't know more call sheet. It wasn't a more hole in ended up over your mouth acting like people, reading your lips. He was standing next to us. Eventually, he got it back. But at that moment he was like, which year was this? This was in ninety eight so year two parcels year to a poor south. So wearing gear, three clay you, but he can't. It can't compare them. I'm just saying coaches, dude at before where they start, they all of a sudden say, you know what? Men never mind. I guess Steve Sabin. So Nick Sabin did it would lane a couple years ago. Donald need him. I'll get somebody else to do right before the national right. Because I don't have time to deal with this type of behavior calling play and they lost the championship game. But anyway, whatever. I mean, he probably shouldn't have done it. It does. It does have a little bit of a whiff of desperation. This this idea of, okay, we're wanting to and by the way, got Washington state coming in. This is in hot Washington, I know, but we know who they've been eastern Washington San Jose State in Montana. Different horses, cold and windy. It's all the same. But this I mean, Alabama's not coming in Ohio states not coming in Texas Nebraska, then no, none of these teams are coming in. It's Washington state and he knows that if this doesn't go right then it's on the the, the flag that I- I cautioned was the one in which once you saw with Sam, Donna was my immediate question to Keyshawn was well, this is an breaking news. He had that dude in practice all during the summer. Why wasn't it clear then that he should have been starting right out the gate as opposed to brow? And that that to me began to question of is he to loyal to people because he doesn't want to hurt people's feelings? And then also too, is he too slow to make adjustments as opposed to making a sort of adjustments? I need to happen much sooner. I'm looking as Sam Donal and I'm looking at maximum. I going. And it's clear. Why was there even a conversation gave a guy who was Gatorade player two year in high school. You gave him opportunity who set and tried to wait his turn in game opportunity. It didn't work out. So you went to Sam. Sam darnold out. Playing him by a mile in practice camp was not close. That was the company that it was not close like that. I think it was a think you saw more potential Sam, but you wanted to give max and opportunity is sometime coaches. They just want to wait to see how it plays out. But in this situation, we've waited a couple of years to see how things played out in every year. We wanted to ten and two going to a bowl game, you know, getting smashed by somebody or fighting back against Penn State to come back. And then the next year opening day struggling to beat a western Michigan or getting smashed by Alabama Lord knows what's going to happen to us next year, Alabama, no matter who to coach maybe. It. I don't think it's a matter of clay held, not being able to identify who the right guy is or identify what the problem is identified. The fact that maybe you need to take the play calling back. It's that he slow to do it in. This comes back to the point that I've been making going back to after the Stanford game, it's the culture that I worry about. It see much more than any individual player or any individual coordinator, or even the head coach. It's the culture that's been created, whereas let's be sensitive. If everybody's since by too quick. Let's not overreact, and I don't wanna maniac in there that has one bad day and starts firing people. But today this is this is a place where you can't wait around to see if everything just kind of finds its own level at USC when you get crushed by the best teams in the country, it's time to evaluate what you're doing and make some changes in this. They're slow to do that, but it I think it's speeding up now. I think he realizes that the noise level is rising every single hour on him in the longer he waits the longer. His job is in jeopardy in somebody else's going to be coaching his team in the future. If he doesn't get it fixed, because as you know, the US's of the world can't continue to be behind. You look at Clemson. Okay. Let's take Dow will Sweeney. For instance. He was a receivers. Coach got the head coach in program. I got the head coaching job at the program in Clemson. Ain't lookback since he looked back since. Right. I mean, he was he wasn't even a coordinator. He was receivers coach that they decide to make the head coach. It hasn't looked back since. The USC shouldn't be in that position. They shouldn't be in a position where they're not competing with or they're not competing with Alabama, Ohio State, you know, Clemson, that's just not what it's supposed to be. We haven't gotten a ride in a very, very, very long time, and it's about time for him to get it right now, whether that means Klay has to make changes or whether or not musically has to leave, but they gotta get right. We'll talk more about Klay will actually hear from clay. He's talking about whether or not he's going through the same thing over and over. Again. We'll get into that plus DeMarco for scheduled to join us as well. It's morning shows Keyshawn. It's Elsie. It's Travis. So SE's trying to figure out what to do next as far as getting points on the board as far as why they can't score, it's more than just a freshman quarterback. J t Daniels is not looked particularly good so far. In the first three games of the season, we'll get into Marco far that's coming up at eight o'clock. We'll we'll talk more about SC and clay was asked, who was there? Are we going through the same thing over and over again? Is there a constant theme for the team struggles noise in the first two weeks? Good run game and and trying to fix a little past protection this past week. He, you know, we throw for three twenty two, and then we struggled struggled in the run game. So I think overall messages when I said, you know, Sunday night for the entire team and that's how I dressed. It is consistency and everything. Assignment, unamendable technique communication. Those are the things that are going to help us football game. And that's every physician office. See, he loses me when he says, we've been good in the run game. I was just was getting five yard, Texan dusted desk. The problem that that's the problem with me trying to defend the situation. Help me help you. City line of me into a lot of the people. He would not good in the damn run game unless you negative five yards. Here's the thing. Okay. Let's say you are good at the run game. The wise j. t. thrown a ball forty nine times. Why aren't you one of the football for tonight times if you're good at the run game, this comes because he didn't want to be too predictable. Right, right. You want to be predictable in wind up on second and nine, even though you get in. If I do the math correctly, that's fourteen yards. Needing fourteen, but it's predictable, five, five. You put it the Bank. This is was bath for me to listen to stuff like that because I can't lie for you it. It's statements like that didn't make you go, okay. We've got a problem here because there's there's coachspeak. There's the nonsense that they all say because they gotta Philip, everybody's tape recorder. They gotta stand there for fifteen minutes and talk, and they're, they're never actually going to tell you I can. I can give you information without giving, and that's my point, can I don't need to try to bamboozle you into believing thing is not is believing something is there that's not there. It's just not out of just simply said, you know, we working on a lot of different things. I wish we'd ran the ball more. You know, we can't afford to have a guy throwing the ball forty. Sometimes we got to have more of a balanced attack, finesse it, I, it's, you're lying to people and you're asking them to suspend their own intellect. When you say things like we run the ball was no, you know knows you spend your own intimate, very intelligent. No, go ahead. It is your when you say something like when you look at me and say, you know if I said, you know what? I'm losing weight like crazy. You know, you look like it'd be like, no, you're not. I see you every day and you're not getting any thinner and wood clay Helton says, you know, we're running. The ball will no your not. And if you're trying to tell me that, well, you're not paying attention and you're, you're, you're just not hitting me with real stuff you to your point. You could say a lot of things that don't say anything, but you read the lie to me because I can't help you what if he's not lying, but should not. Running the ball. Well, see, that's part of the delusion talking about believe, why believe max brass release, starting in one of the nice run for touchdown against Texas. Okay. Why didn't we get back to that same run maybe because clearly when you pitched it out to Steven Carr, I believe it was fourth down. He couldn't turn the corner because it was like twelve people over there buying with no linemen pulling. Maybe part of the reason why he knows what he's saying. Sounds ridiculous is he's dating team know that he's screwing up. So we're running. The ball will translation, why aren't we running the ball more? So maybe it wasn't necessarily he's evaluating what happened and shared it with the media. Maybe he's using the media to send another message to t- compound that with the fact that I know I'm the damn head coach lead us in a message to my assistant. I'm close the staff door in. I'm a sit down and I'm going to explain man to my staff. We're all going to get fired. If we don't turn this around, if you. Another job. If you showing that to your staff, you have the wrong staff. They should know l z. Sometimes they need to hear no time to us. This is s see you wanted to you already know, you're not. You've been telling me for like two years man, two or three years. This SEO SEM is I know what you say today is. Yeah. Well, that's true. I know that you said if you're wanting to walk around on campus, your chest up high. You should know if you wanted to so much shouldn't have held you. You're in the hot zone. I think they know it, but it's one thing. If you know you're not performing up to your level that you're not winning SE wanted to is never. Okay. So I know I'm in trouble. It's another thing if I know that I'm not in a good spot. I know that we're not doing a good job and, oh, by the way, the boss calls everyone in and says, look, unacceptable. We need to get this fixed or else because now it's a real thing. It's not just I know it's coming. It's come only time is acceptable to be one and two is if your first time head coach at USC. Sure you're taking over program in and all of a sudden at the end of the year, you wind up in a Vegas bowl. That's okay. The next year, the expectations skyrockets Klay. This isn't as I as they say. This isn't his first rodeo. He's been in the seat now three years. So this is his fourth year in the driver's seat. So you got to. He's got a, he's got a timed up this time. It really truly is strike the game really wanting to game in three. If you factor into Bogue game from last season gave you're on the morning show what's going on this morning. Hey, good morning. All right. So do points to the US. Right? They actually do have a good running game. You have three stallion running backs that are not being used. So how does that a good run again? Well, forty, eight, nine. You cannot throw the ball forty eight times on a on a on a two freshman, but that's a true freshman. You know that that's one of my point. So yes, I understand that he came mindset. The running game was working with if your because you didn't need to give the running game enough time to work out, right? They they just don't have an identity offensively in the to USC identity is I'm gonna pound this ball. You don't know what I'm gonna do. 'cause I have three stallion running back that I'm going to get. You're scared and you're gonna have to worry about. That's my point. Number one also limber too. Drives you a little Laker hater. Whole day is not what you say, how you say when the Brown was anywhere else, then I'll be listening to you in the afternoon. It's like, oh, who wants to join the Brown who wants to join us the one, but all of a sudden when it's the Lakers whom was to be on the lebrons chateaux come on, come on. You did the same thing with Kobe who wants to be in the Kobe shadow? No, who wants to join the winning team at Lakers period. Point blank. That's all right. All right. I don't think Travis has hating it because I think he's just trying to point I out of. This is the one thing that I'm one hundred percent sure of what I actually say and what they hear. Never the to the. Nevertheless, that's why I don't sweat it too much the same thing. Say what they hear rarely the same thing and there is no bigger LeBron person in this city than me. Well, let's just, I'm not sure. That's true. I am. I've been all in on that guy for years. I'm thrilled to have him here, but I'm a hater but go, a Hilton did not. You know, send running a ball forty sometimes wanted to things at the coaches would tell you is that we fail behind. So we abandoned running game to play catch up because we fail behind and we felt that the secondary gave us the opportunities that throw the ball a little bit more. Despite the guy being a young quarterback, that's what the coach would tell you. I would on the other hand, say we should be running. The attempts is not necessarily the yard, just the attempts. How many attempts do we have in terms of rushing? Okay. If at some point something's going to pop just like the Steven Carr touchdown eventually popped open. But if you abandon it because you fall slightly behind you. Then you're gonna wind up putting yourself in a position where you're going three and out all the time in the defense is back on the field. Yeah, I agree with what he said about the potential of the run game. I think it's there. I, I'm a huge Stephen car fan. I go back to last year the, I don't know if anybody made more eye-popping plays than that guy did, but if you're not the potential of it isn't the reality of it. They're just not running the ball while they might be able to. But so far they haven't when I when I look at last season's bowl game and into this season, I can only identify too good quarters. Remember that bowl game wasn't as close as at twenty. Four to seven scores suggests the highest state. That was a final score. Twenty four, seven felt like forty wasn't even that quote. Yeah. So when you look at all the quarters that they've played since that bowl game, I look at the second half of UNLV to see anything that looks like offensive success. So to me, it's not just one and two. It's also high. You finished last season with a QB by the way that was drafting number three overall. And here you are now one and two. I'm looking like you're not trending in the right direction. You have to good quarters across four freaking football games. That's not good there. That's a bad bad drew Salatto Derulo you're on the morning show what's up to. Fowler with going out with going out. Then you disappointed me key. Perfect top for you to flex yo juice, king. We got a black woman running USC tweeden LLC to teach there. They open up the checkbook for animals e. Death row key back in ninety eight. Komo. I can't. I can't. I can't get into it man because if I say something to one thing that I've learned is if I say something is is it resonates pretty strong. And I can say the littlest thing in turns in the more than what it should be. So I try to just as they say, I'm like the guy just try to play my role, man. I tried to stay to your job is trying to do. Out of the way because I don't want to I, I'm not. I don't wanna protect clay, but at the same time I wanna give him an opportunity to try and get it fixed. Just try and get fixing in. Trying to get a fixed to me is taking a look at the staff and the people around you because the staff is responsible for the positions that they coach in the positions that they coach. They've got to be harder on the players. They've got a demand more out of them in the office coordinator. I would just move him back down on the sideline with me. You can stay up in the box if you want to. Otherwise you come down to the sideline stand next to me and hold my court because I'm not going to allow you to give fire. That's just, I mean, meeting get fired. That's just not because of what you're doing to get fired. I mean, what I. What I what I'm doing right point, the finger at me not at you in. That's just how I am. But apparently clay got the message somehow and he's got into practice yesterday in decided he was gonna, you know, fake call plays or whatever he's doing. I, I don't know. I think he'll call the plays on Friday. I don't know better. I would. You know the president's so black. 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You go to Greg ac- cows walking up and down the hill. He'll eat Daffron. Thome. Why cows growing up. Damn deer growing where you're. Grew up with venison. I didn't know they have been in the streets in Detroit. Yeah, man. Oh, okay. I'm pretty sure my mom was. You know, I do. But you thought Kathy's halibut when he was a su-. Yeah, it was. It's Friday night. Till Friday French fries. In the same Greece, same tasty tastes tastes just fly over everything. You're everything. You didn't even look at the calories bacteria. Valerie's mama thought getting it in. Better. I don't even know where calories there. I got the college Calhoun. Put Cousy play for. Man, how we used to eat. Oh, used to say, well. I don't eat is right for me is I used to fish. I twice a week. It'd be thrill. I haven't had barbecue since two draft what? No. You had a we. We have RBQ really barbecue. That was like when you fit that was some smoke different types. Second on the ship thing. Jorges settle down. Who says shrill on. Off of the weird animals and onto the always controversial. L z top ten. I remember people hate this segment enough to get a sponsor. Now that is right sponsored by altarum ound company venture awaits and keep listening. There's a chance to play in the snow courtesy of z coming. Can I plan to sell to? What are we doing here? Yeah, I've played with snow few tax. What. What is the top ten top ten unfortunately is dealing with the USC troubles. And as I said, he can look at them as being as one and two or you can look at them as I. Is insane one in three when you factor in they played Ohio State in the bowl game and got blown out basically and went back to last year to give us a loss. I'm just saying, man, you had to good quarters and four games. So of course, that means the coach in what he's doing and not doing big question Mark and whether or not he's actually going to the end of the season is another question Mark. So looking ahead, I said, what should USC do the head coaching position? So this is my top ten people who should be a head coach. Ten candidates coming into number ten, stability personified. He's an SC grad. He's locale. He's one. I don't like what I think you're gonna say, yes, yes, Justice. The ability Dino's the people's. He knows they, he knows them. He knows us. He knows we knows nineteen Eighty-four offense as well as anybody you pretty good nineteen. Fissured thing. I put a check Mark by it. Sign off on that. I didn't say outside all, just put a check Mark by an interview with Wanda he, he gets interview him wandering Lynn. So we can say over them. Now he might have played Swannee is number nine number nine. Now if you don't like Jeff Fisher because you don't know stable and kind of boring, you wouldn't ask them, snap, crackle pop something that's gonna catch headlines to get higher OJ another grad up, man. You. Never seen grad. He breeze greatness back with OJ comes back on the field you about the glory years. Damn stadium, pretty sure leave the state of Nevada. We're going to have. Could only coach them. The raiders new. Keep coaching Vegas because the way we keep playing, we gonna wind up in Vegas. Number eight. Number eight. Chucky not John. Well, right now with the Oakland Raiders, but he's still got the, he's still got the NATs and he can go into anyone's home and sell you a program. You'll never make it a. She. He's he's, he can make it. Never, never. No, never number. I'd take this year before John Johnny. Boy, number seven. Another SC grad legend. Someone who's one of the highest heights who's got a rain, Jack del Rio. Oh man, seven for seven for has down key. You get ready for victory. Oh, I'm sorry. Jack, Jack del real interviews in the past. I look at that as a check Mark as well. The only difference between Jack Jack my skin recruits though he just looked me told me as recruits itself, but I'm just saying, you know, sometimes in missile higher Vanessa del Rio as like the team trainer or masseuse, you know what I'm saying? Stop it that I don't know. I do. Sounds like it'd be. The radio because of his SC that we're talking about, and we shouldn't have to go shop at the bargain barrel places for our coaches. We had to go to the Bloomingdale's. We hit Elsa Tiffany's exactly. We should go to the Tiffany to the tip of the checkbook for an open up the checkbook and say, Nick Sabin, come on, come on over Nick, Nick de want the job. He's bored after when they were searching. Think I wanna say Pete because they were they didn't do it right at the wanna say p, they. Nick Sabin ever want that gig. He just didn't want he. This is not California's out his deal, right? He doesn't want to be in this be California. You could be with Travis in Orange County, California. I've been down there that's a different sort of California what I'm used to well, because it ain't very. Stay was diverse. I got counseling. County to county is a different state in his own mind. I'm call it behind the orange curtain because they think they know one goes past seal beach. When they get past seal beach, they got to get urban. GM more back in. Sweet tea's in the rear view mirror. If you can't get the top guy because he doesn't want to Tuscaloosa fine, then you can get the second best guy coming in number five, urban Meyer now understand he's controversial a little. The problems at university of Southern Cal, just had some problems doing similar sort of situation already. That's the reason why want is in charge right now, but urban Meyer, unlike the president is actually contrite. He's apologize. He's he's on tour. He just did sit down with Tom Rinaldi, he can meet Ohio State say, I've made a tragic mistake and I want the university to be washed clean. And then two weeks later says, I decided to job in bringing us. Breath and bring some dirty laundry, not all. Now we know number four is ties actually a package deal because I think the tandem and I know that this does not happen college football, but that's okay. Decec- can break rules and create our own little coaches exactly. Coaches Bill Parcells in Keyshawn Johnson. So Bill Parcells he's not going to be the guy is trying to be crude. He's not going to be the guy who's going to deal with the student. He's not going to do any of that. He's going to be there and Saturday's -cational Fridays, bowl games, give you the Xs knows walking up and down the field. Ooh. He is going to do all the recruiting, yada, and the blood, the practice meeting with the boosters package deal. The Bill Parcells Keyshawn Johnson package deal with rain, USC Beck to glory. I'll have close practices. Three number three. Another currently employed coach, but I think he could be got he's at Georgia. Kirby Kirby Kirby smart. It'd be smart for Kirby to take this opportunity to quit us. Could you hire a southerner to come in here? BSE football? Yeah, I don't think I don't think I don't think he has the right staff around so you could have Daboh or JIMBO at SC and everybody be cool with that. Yeah, Fisher was in play. The JIMBO Fisher was in play before to Klay Hilton higher happened. It was. He was in serious playing career smarts, a hell of a recruiter. Yeah. Hell of coaches, good football, but we don't have the pry him away either Georgia going give him more money, but he proved point. I know that the SEC is the key is key Jake's, but don't if Nick Sabin student at some point, don't you one out. So you have another way to get in and compete against, say. Fade out. I wouldn't leave Georgia for USC, not in football. That's a lateral move football. It's a, no, it's a, it's upgrade actually. I think number two, that's perfusion to me. Number two, speaking of to this coaches carrying Owen too, but not in NCWA and the NFL. That's right baby. We're going back to the gory is bringing a pig. We forgive you, you forgive hall. Let's get back together. Make his marriage. We need to forgive. PD didn't do anything. Well, well, I'm not according to he cutting sign off that two chicks. Absolutely. Yeah, I want to know never wanted is if that's number two number one. Number one. Sometimes Travis. When themes get hard, there's this Tennessee to want to change. Things would their speed. This is like when a shake things up. But since times it's smart to stay the course. That's right. Baby number one play Hilton has Ryan his way through mental, make the adjustments. He needs to me if he needs to fire team. Meta fire t. e.'s one arose bow these bids were another bone by parents state, but you still winter another road smoking. So I say, give the man a chance as key has been. 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Peter Laviolette And Moves Being Made Around The NHL

"And. Hang on hang. On. One second goes. Dark. Fed. Extras derived. Sorry. Go ahead for each. Right let's get Elliott's brain and tongue warmed up here this week's edition. Now wait a second wait a second what Before we started rolling Yeah Jeff. told me this could be a little bit like yellow lace. Already in a bad mood I'm in a bad mood Okay. So I don't want to like pre-programme you here I don't WanNa predisposes you to anything I. DON'T WANNA lead the jury. So just don't imagine that it's yellow laces just open your mind and just think about associations with all of these individuals. All right and this week's lists comes to us from Dan McEwen in Kingston. Okay So to kick off word. Association. Phil Esposito. When I think of Phil Esposito I think of the speech Vancouver. Game Four Summit Series One thousand nine hundred seventy to Canada finishes the Canadian swing they've lost twice they've won once they've tied once. And they're getting booed and Phil Esposito unloads the speech. People across Canada we tried our best and For the people that Bush? I'm really. All of us guys really disheartening disillusion. Disappointed in some of the people, we cannot believe the bad press. We've got the bullying we've gotten in our own buildings and if the Russians boozer their players, the fans of Russia's luther players like some of the Canadian fans I'm not saying all of them some of them Buddha's then I'll come back and apologize each one and the Canadians but I don't think they will I'm. Really really I'm really disappointed. I am completely disappointed I cannot believe it. Some of our guys are really down in the dumps. We know we've trying I mean we're we're doing the best we can, and they got a good team and let's face facts. But doesn't mean that we're not given it one hundred and fifty percent because we certainly are I think fill the disappointment is. A natural thing because the whole thing was an unexpected thing they we all live with the national. Hockey, league we have all been so proud over the years how great they are expected because of the I said the three or so good no. No No. No. This is the thing. This is the thing that I'm on behalf of the fans I must say that that probably since everything is relative, we know how good you people are. The people didn't realize how good the Soviet team was a now he founded how good they are. I. Think we can appreciate how good is both teams but I'll tell you we we love. Every one of US guys thirty five guys that came out and played for teeth and we did it because we love our country and not for any other reason, no one reason they can throw the money of for the pension fund out the window. They can throw anything they want to win the weekend because we love Canada and even though we play in the United States and we earn money in the United States Canada's still our home and that's the only reason we come and I don't think it's fair that we should be. And I think Jeff would anybody be so brave to say what he said today to rip the fans on television like Phil Esposito just did we've seen it a couple of different times now that you mentioned I can recall Bob Gamy. Going after Montreal Canadian's Fans Carey. Price Yes. But Patrice Breeze Bois. Member when he was getting roasted yes. Yes. So so so he's done it but you're right like. Few and far in between here. Yeah. That doesn't happen I'll tell you this is another great one out there. There's another great went out there jeff and it's not hockey related I'm in Minnesota Vikings Fan and they used to have a coach named Jerry Burns. And Jerry Burns in his nineties now but he had one where he got mad about the fans booing his offense coordinator. They'll be a lot of beeps in this podcast, but it is hilarious. Hell the game and. If two, thousand, three bucks you get more excitement than that Hell you wrong. Operation Helluva Helluva game and let me say something as long as I'm in. Snooker will be offensive coach we know about. No. Question about that. And we. I don't like the name names. Game but we can't. We can't be responsible for the black and we can't be responsible for the guy jumping off side. We can't be responsible for we get down there and it was play by by Anderson. I. Love I love Anderson. But it was a dumb play when his foot which Schumer's coming up screaming Howard take time out we had a trap play called COMES UP. Hey Daddy Bosch workers fall. We have another draft. Picks up his feet he walks in. Past. ACL turned. Flat. Thrown law. That is smokers fall. We got right down here we got. We got second down and and I put the hell two years ago I know what? Fifteen four? Watch, and Irwin. Jumped off site. These. Are the things that have been hurting us all along little thinks we're working at him to stop. The ball good today, we went down area and we didn't get to bone in John. F.. Guy Feel like. What He Afterwards everybody Buni. Looked at. It know smarter Coordinator Football. They put his picture up. Boo. Fillets you once upon a time was Jesus Saves espo scores on the rebound. He was that guy that dined out right around the nets was the old saying if you wanted to fill us back check, he needed a crane. I'd amazing goal score the other thing about Phil Esposito is he wrote one of the more controversial hockey books we've ever seen or heard or read I'm looking at it right now. So you've read thunder and lightning yes. Now there are two thunder and lightning books one which was written by John Ferguson senior on the other written by Phyllis zero same title, very different books. There's a lot of stories in. Zito's book and he's not shy about telling them and he's not shy about sharing names as well. I've only. The one time. But now that I've pulled it out of the library case, I may just pick it up one more time. It's not for the faint of heart. That's for sure not at all. So when I see for to outside of the Vancouver speech after game for what do you think off is life moves on and we kind of forget our history and things like that. There are a number of people who said that he does not get enough credit when you talk about people performing unbelievably well on an enormous stage. People bring up seventy two like you're you're older than me Jeff I turn to the day before the of game eight, and so I obviously don't remember that series but people who were old enough to remember it. They talk a lot about how first of all that team didn't WanNa make anyone a captain because they felt that on a team of those people it was unfair to name a captain but he was the A and they said that that team was in danger of falling apart and losing he played unbelievably well. You know somewhere down the road, we might want to do an entire show just on tournaments or teams or specific events in seventy two is an interesting one and a wide divergence of opinion over who actually won the series. What qualifies as a win. Many of those Soviet players and fans will talk about the first game in Montreal. That was the win because it showed the NHL players that Soviet hockey was at least at equal with the NHL and could play at that level that to them was considered the win regardless of Canada actually winning the series on the Henderson goal in Enga- mates but that series. I remember talking to one of the players and he always asked me never to use his name one of the players from that team told me. If the Russians would have played lake the North Americans but a played like the Canadians we would have lost and I said, what do you mean? He said listen we were all OUTTA SHAPE. We thought this was going to be easy. We didn't take it seriously. The Soviets did and he said they played that system of Soviet hockey influenced by Anatoly Tarasov which was hold onto the puck and they would approach the Blue Line. If they didn't have a play, they would regroup circle back and command us again. And he said if they would have played a Canadian style of hockey, throw the PUCK in our corner make us turn and make us skate. We would have been dead said we would come off the ice. We'd say thank God that they would do those regroups because if they made a skate women were done. Always thought that was an interesting observation that series. Okay. From Phyllis Zito, we go to Pat Quinn. I was really starting to grow as a reporter. My career was really starting to grow as Pat Quinn. The. Head coach and general manager of the Toronto Maple leafs and it was incredible just to cover him like dealing with him boys. It was such a a lesson in how to deal with people and what people could be like. Sometimes, he could be really funny and hilarious other times he would just growl at you in. Toronto's bad but Vancouver's worse or I remember John Loo asking him before a playoff series lake. Now, the plants are going to start. Are you going to bump Sunday up for some more minutes every game and cringes barking at him and saying Oh or you the coach now for a young reporter for me and I I was twenty seven or twenty eight. When he came to Toronto, it was such a valuable lesson in you just never knew what you were going to get every day so you had to be ready. For everything. Guys used to tell me. He had incredible incredible pre-game speeches like you would run through a wall after him. He wasn't the best XS and OS coach. She needed people around him who could do the X.'s and O.'s but he could use his size to intimidate. He knew how to get people to go like if he wanted to get you ready for a game, you would be ready for a game I remember when Canada won. The. Olympic Games in two thousand, two won the gold medal. You know I was interviewing after they won and I told him what was going on in Canada with the kind of parades that broke out in every city, the mini rallies and he just smiled and he said like in a soft voice, a much softer voice than we were used to. He goes That's awesome. It really meant a lot. You know I remember him talking about the two situations. He really thought he had a chance to win Philadelphia and nineteen eighty like twenty years later it's still talk about how the winning goal was offside Toronto in two thousand and. One I don't really think and I told the story with Darcy Tucker before we had online I don't think they were beating Colorado that year in the final but they really believe they would get their. They blew the series against New Jersey they thought they were good enough to beat Pittsburgh in the eastern conference final and they really thought they could have a chance against Colorado I don't know if I agree. But the leaves felt that way I mean I don't have as much many men's the personal stories about a queen like Brian Burke would have George. mcphee would have by the years he was in Toronto just to be around him like. There were times that we laughed there were times that he was furious at me. There was times I was furious at him actually here's the one I remember and I won't name the player. So after Quinn left the leaves, we did a charity responser event together, I can't remember which one was. There was a player at a team party who had a little bit too much and it ended up that he got sick and he had to go to the hospital and when the player woke up Quinn was sitting there making sure that the player was okay and he was blown away at this because player thought the twin hated him. And so I ask when it is advantage, I heard this story like, why were you there like why was that important to you and he got very emotional and he said because that was one of my guys and it really resonated with the audience and. So those are the kinds of stories I remember for Quinn. I remember talking to him once in him talk about regretting nodding not taking the Boston job after his down with the maple leafs there was an offer from the Boston. bruins eight turned it down because I don't think he felt that the money was right. But later on, he said, I regret not taking that job that was told me that one we are on our way from Vancouver to white horse for hockey Dane candidate back in two thousand eleven because he was taking his Vancouver giants play the Kamloops Blazers in white horse and he was fiercely as you remember proud of that junior hockey team chosen loved being part of the always maintained. Yeah, you know what? I let the nickels and dimes kind of get in the way of something that I wanted to do. I can't remember think. Dave. Lewis they ended up going with Dave Lewis Maybe that was when they hired Claude Julien Kerley recall specifically. But. I'm with you just a delightful guy and someone that will go out there and Elliot I mean you covered the maple leafs on on a consistent basis he would go out there and hold court and take bullets just guys could shower change collect themselves. He would go out there and protect his team that way standing outside the room that to me was Pat Quinn that guy facing microphones while his players got it together in the room. That's how I always think of Pat Quinn I would agree with that one hundred percent Gordie Howe. Oh. My goodness. Heavyweights this week yes. seriously. He died there was a big event in Saskatchewan for him. Kelly Chase hosted it Kelly chased it an unbelievable job. He really did EMC it was a big event Gordie Howe came out on a private plane and we happen to take a small ride with him from the private plane. To the hotel where he was staying and it was just. So at that time, you know obviously, you know he was really battling his health and you know we couldn't have a conversation or anything like that but you can still feel the presence I. Remember it very well just you could still tell you were in the presence of somebody who had an aura he? Had IT. Whatever it is before the maple leafs played the red wings at the outdoor game at Joe Louis. We're still working at CBC at the time we went and we did video of the how family Christmas dinner that they invited us to and let us film a little bit of it and he shook my hand and he's still had that grip right? You know it was one of those things like when I was younger, I was told I had a dry rag handshake. And it was something that I had really tried to improve having a firm handshake. When I was in grade three, we had a graduation ceremony and you have to do a run through of it and the headmaster of our school was so angry after are run through he called one student back up and said, can you come back up here and shake my hand? And he did and yelled at US she goes. This is the only student who gave me a real handshake. The rest of you gave me dryer a those are not acceptable and I remember when Gordy Howe shook my hand at that dinner that was not a dry rag like that's the way a handshake should be he grabbed on and he looked you in the eye and there was I'm too young to really remember him playing I. Remember the ovation for him at the All Star game in Detroit which I think was his last one. Hartford weather representing. For five decades number nine. I remember him going into the corner at no age fifty with the elbows op and guys thirty years younger than him. Clearly being uncertain. You know what should I do here? Why do I go after a fifty year old guy or do I just deal with it and I think the answer a lot of times was be but like that night instance schedule on or he's from and Kelly Chase hosted. He hadn't played in thirty five years and the reverence for him was still incredible. You could tell you were around. A Regal Person. He is drew falls. The greatest ambidextrous hockey player. The game has ever seen well, who's better there's only one that I can I think Chris Chelios but he's not Gordie Howe Chelios says another one that could fire it from both sides but we always talk about switch hitters in baseball. The Gordie Howe come down either wing with a straight blade. Flip is thick and fire it Like that's Gordie Howe. As much as we think of the toughness and the longevity and that one game he played with the vipers that he was in his seventies. Was One game right and they played the one shift but he got it in I think of ambidextrous know one of the unique skill sets that any hockey player can have being in the having the ability shoot both left and rights hard and accurate, and that was Gordie Howe. All right. All off. It's probably not the way that. He would like to be known, but it's the temper. He had a nicknamed Godzilla for a reason. This, they make the Stanley Cup final in nineteen, Ninety, eight, they play. Detroit. and. I like asking the capital's telling me something about egg and they all laugh and they're like the Tampere. And he had a terrible temper, he would smash sticks even practice if anyone's scored on them and I know the capital's really felt that that hurt him like the goaltender you have to have a certain mentality. Yeah. You can get mad when people score on you but you have to recollect. and. Recollect and Sean Feld was the previous coach I believe before Ron Wilson. Got There and Wilson was the guy coach that Stanley Cup final. But the one thing that Sean Feld apparently, Sean fell was really blunt with them and told them like you're hurting yourself and your team by being like this. But Sean fells not the most touchy feely guys. So He Was Kinda blunt about it and Wilson wasn't always the most touchy feely guy either and but he tried to make it into a joke like apparently there was a time where Coles exited and practice and Wilson scared up to him and said, and kind of like with a laugh like you know you look like kind of like a jerk when you do that. And apparently, the players started laughing about it because they saw the coach kind of laughing about it a bit and it became more of like a running joke that anything else like when Kohl's it would start to lose it. Wilson would skate by him in practice and say mega crack about it like the jerk coming out again or something like that, and that helped get colds more comfortable with it. Like I don't think he ever lost his edge but he got better at dealing with it and then he became a hell of a goal like he was a great goalie but I always think of the temper because I have a really bad temper I think I've told the story before about how I once made a mistake in a piece at the score I got somebody's name wrong and I smashed. Drywall my apartment I used to be really like that too. So let myself Kohl's has a tie in with the autism spectrum and it's done a ton of great work. Raising awareness for it. So I'm a big fan but I when I think of them on the ice, I think of the temper. You know the story with him and Jonathan Tapes they drafted teams right so he used to own along with Damon Land Cowan it tries right Scott Gomez yet tri city Americans and so they selected first overall in the Bantam draft I thin- two, thousand and three. Think and they would try the idea was they're building that organization around two players the a draft Carey price the year before, and they're taking Jonathan toews first overall, and generally you're not taking someone first overall without some type of assurance that they are coming to your program and I don't know I've heard so many different versions of the story I don't know whether it was something a family decision pressure from Shattuck Saint Mary's crew to get them to go to North Dakota whatever it was, but Dr Dave's ends up going to North Dakota and not the tri-city. Of the Western Hockey League and we're this gets interesting because you know that's the I. Think it was the first player ever to get drafted I in the Bantam draft in the Western League in not report. where it gets interesting is the Vancouver Nhl draft and I remember you know as a junior hockey geek watching the two six traffic in Van and Washington is selecting fourth overall and Ovechkin is going to be up on stage George mcphee to make the pick and so as Olaf Kohl's Eq and so Eric Johnson Goes I. Jordan Stall go second and then there was some speculation that go Mike Take Phil Kessel or Nick backstrom third overall which would mean the Charleston tapes would fall forth to Washington. And anyone who knows the story is sort of Giddy with the wild I can't believe the Capitals Might Get Charlton tapes here, and let's see tapes and Kohl's shake hands on the podium. After after in junior hockey, he was selected first overall and then and then didn't report it never happened. Of course, Chicago took. Nick backstrom became a Washington capital, but that was just sort of eat delicious sidebars story to that draft Okay. From Olaf Kohl's egg. To junior hockey cornerstones for a franchise try city they ended up with while they had carry price and you Jonathan tapes as well who could have beaten some NHL teams. No kidding. All right, Joe Sakic. Tell you I'm a little bit confused about this one. There's a lot of heavyweight that Kohl's one is kind of throwing me off a little bit. Okay. So Joe Sack I, mean, you know what you kind of think first of all is that For A guy who's been in the public as long as he's been, there's not a lot of great stories about him. coatless Joel Right That's what they used to call on coatless. Joe, and he loved it. Like there was one year I guess where I remember this story someone told me the story that at the beginning of the season I think it was in the move to Colorado already and they said, you're GONNA be quotas Joe Again, this year and he said depends on what you ask me. But look you know he line a huge star is a player. And now you know a chance to win a Stanley Cup, an executive and who's been really smart like really patient with jared bed. Nar. Right move really patient on trading Matt Shane even though he was like the pressure on him was intense turned out to be a great move. I think of two, thousand, two Olympics Yup Theo fleury I remember after they won the gold medal they went and they had a team party. And flurry came outside for a while because you know there's you know there was alcohol and he didn't want to be around it too much. And he talked to us about. I remember he said if you ever if you guys are writing or saying anything about this series, it has to be about how unbelievably good sack was like he's like he carried us to the gold medal. He didn't even have to say anything he just did the work and sack was a big believer in that like, I, I remember I would ask them about things like how do you approach this and how do you approach that and he's like, Hey, if you do the work and you have the right attitude, it's going to happen for you the that's all he. Would say, says, I do the work I try to have the right attitude just an unbelievably great player I know I I grew up in Toronto I know friends who are fans who still get pissed off that they didn't draft Joe sack in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seven, sack went fifteenth lease had the seventh overall pick and Gorge Celik has told the story before. That Floyd Smith Floyd Smith used to be the least GM was a longtime scout he fought for Joe. SAKIC and John Brophy wanted Luke Richardson. And brophy went crazy and brophy and Harold Ballard. The owner was really tight. And Gerry. McNamara and to be fair Gerry McNamara was the GM. The top player on their draft list was Luke Richardson. Now I'm a big believer that you don't vary your draft list and even though Floyd Smith. Put up the fight. Gerry McNamara went with the list and he took Richardson who had a pretty good career. He just wasn't Joe Sakic like who was. One of the reasons I believe you don't ever screw around with your draft list was the Joe Montana story the year he was eligible to be drafted in the NFL. He was next on the Dallas cowboys draft list when they came to pick his name was up and they changed their minds and they went with the linebacker named Larry Bethesda and that was obviously a huge mistake that was sport altering decision the cowboys making that choice instead of Joe Montana. And I think Gil Brandt was the personnel director for the cowboys at the time. But whoever was he said that that was the only time we went against our list. and. That's why you don't do it. So even though the leaves didn't go against their list and I generally think that you shouldn't go against your list they should of because Floyd Smith was. Listen happen one famous time not that long ago with the oilers right with no Yakov and Ryan, Murray? Yes. The video games the night before whatever always you know what as much as Canadian hockey fans may gross about nineteen, ninety eight and again no, and the shootout and Dominik. Hasek, and Hachem Wayne Gretzky didn't shoot. At the biggest problem with that shootout was. What's that Joe Sakic was injured? Like Joe, Sacchi is your money guy like Joe Sakic's at the dot with the Puck I love Hashtag. I think he's the best goaltender of all time as a matter of fact Joe Sakic's scores in that shootout. Going, away Joe, Sakic scores. I Love Shack but that Night Harshek one oh I know I mean they could have gone a hundred times and they might scored against them. Eric Brewer I, think we've had him before but do it again Eric. Brewer. Now, I'm really thrown. Okay. Two thousand two Olympic gold medalist. Teen. So later in his career. He was playing for Tampa and I was going to do a game in Tampa, and he was playing pretty well and I remember John Cooper talking of a brewer and how well he was playing and he just said look I think at this point in his career he's better playing eighteen minutes than twenty two. I. Think the role really works well for him and by that time brewer had been in the long time he was a bit older. and. I mentioned this to brewer and he goes you know who told you that that was like instantly I don't know if I WANNA Be that guy was like, oh. This is what this guy said about you. What do you think and he goes never mind that sounds like something coach would say and I actually laughed I thought that was pretty funny. and. So I told someone else that story and they said to me that the islander experienced kinda change brewery a little bit because he was the fifth overall pick by the islanders and he was a really highly regarded player and I guess he had a bad experience there with Bill Stewart, who is the assistant coach at the time, and later was the interim coach in Moore was a young kid and I. Guess What someone told me was? Nervous or an uncomfortable situation. He would kind of laugh just to break his nerves and you know that's not unusual. Some people are really like that. But it used to drive stewart. Crazy I, guess there was one time like steward through or add him like a rowing or and it missed. But obviously, that really changed him a bit like that was probably around nine hundred, ninety, nine, twenty something years ago. You're probably laughing still those stories now it's you know fireable offense just shows you how much the world has changed. Brewer was a hell of a player and I think a really good player but I think he got a bit more cynical about some of the things that happened in the NHL because of that incident. You mentioned bill stewardesses in aside one day. We get Dave Tomlinson on the podcast. I'd be happy to have Dave Tomlinson on. So what I we we have to hear from him he was playing for bill in Germany. and. It's overtimes game seven do or die and they didn't have their time out anymore and their star player lost an edge on his skate and they couldn't call a time owed and they couldn't do anything to stall. So he faked a heart attack on the bench. Oh, my goodness we gotta get Thomason to tell that story. That's like Fritz von Erica, world class, championship wrestling. Oh. Nice pull. Out of nowhere with the world class reference, all rights from Eric Brewer we go to Adam Graves. Just, one of the nicest human beings alive. That's number one. That's the first thing that anyone should remember about Adam graves like just. I remember Kelly, I think I've said this before with with Charlie Heidi Fleiss he doesn't like you. You're the problem. I. Think There's a lot of that with Adam graves to if. You you're the problem people just speak reverentially of him. I should mention his charity work to he's supports smile zone which are positive find areas for children in hospitals, and they're in a number of hospitals across the country. Sean. Monahan has joined him as an ambassador for this when we could have these golf tournaments I would try to play in the smiles on one every year because you know that's the kind of charity you WanNa support and Adam graves is the kind of person you want support. You know people forget fifty goal score fifty goalscorer of the year they won the Stanley Cup ten more years in the playoffs but the story I remember was two thousand and one in each L. draft. The Rangers traded him to San Jose. They did something else that day or they were being rumored to do something else that day and in a scramble I asked Glen. See there about it and kind of snapped at me. Which is fine. It just happens. That was Glen Sather and he said today we're talking about Adam grace like I'm not talking about anything else today but Adam Graves I had to trade them. It wasn't fun and I just want this data be about Adam graves and that's the way people think about him. So skilled. So tough such a spark plug. Every single shift ski to the boards before you coach that to me is Adam Graves Yup. Darryl said door. Who did one of my favorite things of ever seen in hockey which has received a zero fanfare although you may have referenced it during an interview with Chris pronger in the summer. So Darryl Saddam or. Nineteen ninety-three. Cup Playoffs playing defense the Los Angeles Kings Go have a look at the dying moments of that game. Montreal, Canadian send the Puck down the ice. They're also goes to grab it skates behind his own net and Kelly Rudy and the clock is counting down five four three. One Canadians. Darrell store with the game puck on his stick. flips it into the stands. No one's getting this puck. Now, the great documentary is waiting to be made in hockey. Is, whereas that. But go have a look at it listening to this podcast right now hit pause right now go to youtube and was dying moments and watched Daryl's adore do the opposite of pronger who gobbled up pucks in two thousand ten as we all know flipped it into the stands at the Montreal Forum, the Stanley Cup Pock baller move daryl sedona Elliott Friedman I liked that the other remembers is Tim Taylor when auto was playing Tampa in two thousand and five I guess no. It would be two thousand and six excuse me two, thousand, six Ottawa's playing Tampa. Ray Emery won a playoff game and Tim Taylor grabbed the Puck at the end and threw it in and told us all he threw it in the garbage. So emery couldn't have the PUCK It was just crazy. Mental game. Right. And at the end of the series. Tampa Lost Ottawa beat them in five games. Taylor went through the handshake line and He pulled out the puck and he gave it to emory and he said look I apologize. But that's sometimes the games that we play. I hope you understand and it's no disrespect and you beat smu earned it fair and square and I remember asking Emery emery about it and he laughed he loved it. He'd say I totally understood and I probably would have done the same thing. So I remember that kind of thing. So was a Helluva player thirteen, hundred games you know. I remember him in the Stanley Cup final in two thousand eight when they played for Pittsburgh you against Detroit. He wasn't really playing that much. I think he only played about four playoff games that year I had a long conversation with him and I wrote about it for the CBC website on just how hard it was. He'd been in the League for fifteen years at the time and you WANNA play. But you don't want to cause a problem and you think you can help Pittsburgh lost that series and I just remembered. You know he was happy to talk but. Several Times. He said look I don't want to be a problem. So be very careful what you do like almost every answer was be careful what you do at this because I don't want to be a problem, but I'm talking to you and but the other one I remember when he was an assistant coach and Minnesota, I can't remember if it was sports and at the time or I was working at somewhere else but. we said something on TV and it wasn't me who was talking it was something else and when I look down at my phone after the segment, there was a tax chain from him and it's like you can't let that go on air. That's wrong. You got to correct that and I'm like what? And he said, whoever was that said I can't even remember said it that's not accurate. They're talking about our team that's not right. You have to fix that. So I guess him and the other Minnesota coaches were watching it in their room wherever we were on and they were disagreeing with the segment and they were telling me it was inaccurate. And I don't think I'd even said like I I know sometimes people come after me for stuff I say but I don't think in this particular case I'd said a word and I was like. Like, you want his cell number. You can talk to him and he's started colonies like laughing. He goes no I don't care but we were all watching this and we were screaming at the TV. I had to vent to someone so I was venting to you. That's awesome. Great Junior player as well. with Kamloops. Play on that Scott neater Meyer team. Okay. You just mentioned in the nicest guy enrolled Adam Graves I'll go you another one K. John Sebastian share. I host the CWM MJ Shell. Award ceremony a couple of years ago and gear was Arizona the blame Villebois Brienne Armata and could not Hatton's by maybe like my I like real conversation with other than just like a a hello and quick conversation about a game. When he was a player could not have been a nicer gentle man than I had ever met. You just walked away going man Chaggaris fantast very friend where the nicest guys in the world. S Sugar Stanley Cup. Netminder well, I. Mean of course you remember two thousand and three right? Just the incredible run One of the I think there's four guys who've won the consummate with a losing team in the Stanley Cup final and he did it for the Dachshund two, thousand three even though they lost to New Jersey in seven games in the final I believe he's doing media now to. or at least was at some point, he's one of us now I just remember how unbelievably. In two thousand and three he had an incredible shutout streak and you are totally right on Nice Guy, we didn't hockey night in Canada feature on him. Once on his son who was born with an issue you invite us into our place he couldn't have been nicer but I remember him mostly as a player two, thousand, three, I mean that was a time when they played in the western conference final against Minnesota you didn't think that the wild we're gonNA score that entire series no chance. The other thing I remember and it's kind of funny. One of the members of that Detroit team that because they beat them in the first round, they beat the swept. Detroit that year in the first round it was a big upset. One of the players that Detroit team, who I kinda keep in touch with actually texted me during the Vegas. Vancouver. Series and said watching Thatcher Damn go in games five, six and seven against the Golden Knights reminded him of facing. Jaaz together in the first round with Anaheim in two thousand three he said I. Don't think we played that badly at all I thought we were actually pretty good but it didn't matter that guy. Handedly beat us. There are some great performances on that team she was exhibited but Reuss Land Soleil Keith, Carney as a pair they were outstanding. Korea was Great Adam oates Steve Route Chin starting with that Detroit upset that was a fun team to follow the emily was a funny Anaheim ducks quad. Well, you're a member the Anaheim Stanley Cup final when Stevens Hit Korea, right? Yeah and then Korea came back and scored. And I remember the the noise that night when Korea scored that goal that's one of the loudest crowds. I ever heard. And by the way gear in that Western Conference finals. I. Just looked it up. He gave up one goal in four games and one of those games went to double overtime. They won that season sweep and saying nothing to nothing for nothing and to one. Andrew Brunette scored the only goal for Minnesota in that series in over. Two hundred and forty minutes about two hundred and sixty plus minutes. Andrew Brunette same player who also scored the last goal. Against which hall of Fame Netminder, Patrick Wa, and it was that year. and. It was that final series Andrew Brunette with the final goal to ice it has minnesota goes past the Colorado. Okay. This one we've done before but for the purposes of this theme, we could use them twice Kate Wayne Gretzky. I mean I got to think of a new story of a wing Gretzky. Past really good He scored a lot of goals He was a fina on in minor hockey in Ontario. He loved Gordy Howe who we already talked about big Lacrosse guy growing up the the number. One thing I'd say about Gretzky and I think it's an important thing for people to know about him is that if your friend of his he takes care of you forever. I think that's an absolutely incredible thing about him and I think that people should absolutely know that. This is something goes talking about it was someone the other day. So. I was on the fan on Monday and Steven Bryant and Jeff Blair were the CO host and the writer's block show and Steven was asking can you tell if there's any buzz in these cities about these teams? And it's harder to tell now because we're not there I think there is some like I think Vegas before they lost like they love their teen Tampa going into the Stanley Cup final like you know those fans, there's a hardcore group and they love their team. I just joked with Stephen and Jeff. If the Stanley Cup final was Tampa Bay in Vegas. In the year, we can't travel I'm going to be really pissed off. And the one thing I think about with Gretzky is. How big's the NHL of winged Gretzky doesn't exist. Southern expansion doesn't happen. Well, there's no California and all those prospects coming out of California don't happen I was having this debate with someone the other day. I like. The NHL is about to be a thirty two team league. How many teams are in this league of Wayne Gretzky doesn't exist could not agree more? Would they disputing that? No, we were just debating arguing number. Well. Let's see like it was twenty one teams when he was there well, Anaheim isn't in San. Jose. Isn't it? I'm just thinking of all the teams that had even been rumored before. Right like Denver had a team before with Colorado's you might want to disqualify them, but Florida doesn't happen like everything in the south like Minnesota go to. Dallas. If Wayne Gretzky. Doesn't go to the Los Angeles kings and start to put his. Signature all over hockey in America. Like. I. Can Kinda see it everywhere to be honest with you reach more. So the players like here in we live in Toronto you know Nick Robertson's got a job on the the maple leafs next season. Why because once upon a time Wayne Gretzky played hockey in Los Angeles and had helped to pop hockey and he's a California kid just mentioned. Thatcher. Denko with a couple of seconds ago you know where he was born before he moved San Diego and then went to Los Angeles to play. Like all of that is still going all the way back to Wayne Gretzky would is fascinating thing it's hard to hard to pinpoint. It's always hard to start talk about history like where did this one event begin because you can contextualized things you know going back decades if not centuries but so much that we see in the NHL Right now still to day right now goes back to that rescue trait like it is one of those moments that you can stop and point to and say, this is where this history of this began much world. War One you can say there's a lot of context behind it but until Gavrilo Princip happens, we can't say that the century changed we can say the NHL changed the Minic Gretzky was traded from Edmonton to Los Angeles and I remember the key on sports illustrated they had a cover with Magic Johnson and Wayne Gretzky I'm going to right now it's a great cover. It's an awesome cover. People wrote to sports illustrated saying that was the worst superimposed cover. We've ever seen like, why would you fake the two of those guys on a cover together? A Great Move Gretzky that's what it was called. And they had to write something in their next issue saying it was not fake cover like they're actually in the same room they had to publish the photo of the two of them to prove that they were in there together. Crazy. That's how. People thought it looked so bad like I'm looking at it now on the Google images search and I'm like I could see why people would say that s I took the kind of extraordinary step for them of printing letters saying it looked like phony and putting the picture in their next edition. All right. So the theme here maybe a a difficult one. I don't think it's yellow laces. And of kind of been Playing nickel and dime verbal kint all the way through here eight Never Tao's in a barbershop quartet in skokie Illinois. I met this guy in California by the name of our red foots back when I was picking coffee beans Elliott in. Guatemala? A. Sort of been dropping pepper parsley the superior along the way. Let's see if you get. First of all I like your usual suspects reference I think that's very good. That is a fantastic movie. I see links like Kate there's some hall of famers here. There guys who've won championships for team Canada or internationally like esposito seventy, two, sack, two, thousand and two, brewer two, thousand, two, Quin, two, thousand, two Gretzky. World. Junior didn't he? And Memorial Cup. One thing that ties them all together. Just think about the nature of how we spoke about some of these guys specifically. Olaf Kohl's AG-. Always, they're all junior owners edge. There you go. That's a great one. I'm not mad I tip my cap that is for Dan McEwen in Kingston really interesting bio as well he's been official was part of Osha for twelve years officiated a of junior hockey says the best minor hockey team he ever officiated was the marlies that was a team with mcdavid Bennett and Roland McEwan. He Ref them in a minor midget tournaments his minor hockey coach was the first captain of the Belleville both that has ben Kelly went to elementary school with another bulls captain. Mac. Cognition his uncle played for the Bulls before they joined the Oh l. when doc vons team came second in Canada at the Centennial Cup and Halifax losing the Prince. Albert. Raiders I love this grew up listening to Jack Miller. Yes. On the CJ Bq Broadcasting Bulls Games and Jim Gilchrist Broadcasting Kingston Front next games his father-in-law also as a sports reporter for the Kingston Whig Standard for forty three years mostly covering the front knacks in the Winter Dan. Thanks so much for sending this one in I. Forgot Zero Two team Sault greyhounds. I forgot I totally forgot which one to saccone. Cal He was one of the original investors with the Calgary Hitmen it would have been him. Bret Hart and Theo Fleury. Okay. There may have been more, but I'm those they think they were the first three investors in that one. So Quinn Vancouver how Vancouver Gretzky owned hall, right? Okay. So there's a great story there he owned too. So ill, he own hall but that was the second junior team and the Great Story About Hall Gr- Sorry Graves Zones Oshawa, and you mentioned Jaguars Team Yeah Blair. Barberini. derosa. Door Kamloops. Blazers Eric Brewer Prince George cougars the great story storybook. Gretzky, when he owned hall, you know was trying to get Pat Burns to be as coach and pat was as we all know a cop and loved it and I just read this not too long ago in. Dick Irvin Book called behind the bench which was published years and years ago picked up against. It's a really interesting read the stuff on Gary. Green and Mike. Paul matere is hilarious but burns talks about how he got a phone call from Wayne essentially saying. Look if you agree to quit being a cop and come coach our team pay you as much if not more at coach the new made. As a police officer. And that's what got him into coaching. Burns always credited Gretzky for his start. He was always very appreciative of that and then coached against him in nineteen ninety-three also. Gretzky bought at the age of twenty one. The Expansion Belleville Bulls he bought forty five percent of it. I forgot Nineteen eighty-one he paid one, hundred, eighty, thousand dollars Wayne would've been. Halloween of twenty, one in one, thousand, nine, hundred, twenty, two years old. Something like that. So he paid one hundred, eighty thousand dollars for the expansion Belleville Bulls and the great part of it is. Do you know how much you put down as a down payment. How much? Ninety, nine dollars. Down Payment on the Belleville Bulls. Like I'M GONNA start putting down. The date of my birthday for everything I, pay for I'm putting down twenty seven dollars. I love that like what? I saw it I'm like Oh. Yeah. Dan You got a good one year and even Dan Let me let me go back to the ME, quickly, I'll I'll read you the tweet from Dan. He says a papa some names Elliott may not have relationship with, but I think would be hilarious to try to get them to figure it out might be like the Yellow Laces Association. So even Dan references the Yellow Lisa's Message comments about that. All I was so mad. I still get mad when I think about it I just don't kick the DRYWALL, but don't get the Drywall, take it easy. You're different Elliott I have the coals temper sometimes hokey Elliott's all warmed up tongue works the brain is is moving here. Let's get to it welcomed thirty-one thoughts the pipe. Stick, it's broken and they're on the penalty kill here huge opportunity for Dallas as Gurion goes behind the net. Sent. Back. To the left. Circle. Flavor malign right psycho shoots Mars. With what type of the right Circle Robin Leonard gloveside and the Dallas Stars are going to the Stanley Cup final for the first time in twenty years. As the coaching staff mobs, Rick Bowness on the bench. The series in five games. All right. So here we go. Elliot welcome to another week of thirty one thoughts the podcast and another action packed news filled week, and before we get to by the way we're going to be speaking to Peter Latvia Let. The new head coach The Washington capitals that is one piece of huge news this week Before we get to the other newsy bits on the podcast this week, I want to get your thoughts on Rick bowness and I don't know if we've seen other than perhaps and we'll just referenced him in Word Association, PAT, Burns I don't know other than perhaps Pat Burns. The last time we've seen an entire hockey community cheer for coach to win the Stanley. Cup Not unlike how we saw people cheering for Ray Bork to win his cup for Dave. Andrew Chuck to win his Stanley Cup how would you describe this Rick bowness phenomenon right now? I just think he's a pretty likable guy like we talked last week about Bruce Cassidy in the bill belichick rule, right? Yeah and that is that what you learn like when it goes wrong for you the first time you know what you learn about it how do you make sure it doesn't happen and you know what Rick bowness reminds me of it and Canadian sports fans. Of a certain vintage will understand where I'm going here. This is not a young hip reference. I will concede right away and that is Ron Lancaster, and let me explain like Ron Lancaster was one of the greatest Canadian football league players ever. He was a quarterback. He was a great quarterback when you go down the list of the greatest players ever to play in the CFL. Ron Lancaster would be on that list when he retired as a player he got hired as the head coach of the. Rough riders, which is where he had his greatest success as a player, and at the beginning, he was a total disaster. His first two years were nineteen, seventy, nine in one, thousand, nine, hundred eighty, and the rough riders went to and fourteen both seasons. He had a four and twenty eight record as head coach of the rough riders which sources tell sports net is not very good. Okay. And then in Nineteen ninety-one. So he went into broadcasting. He became the color commentator on CFL on CBC, and he was excellent like he was an excellent commentator. He had the ability to speak at a high level about football away. Fans could understand he had a He had a really easy folksy manner and he was blunt and direct. And then in Nineteen ninety-one, Edmonton hired him as a coach and people were like, why do you not for remember what a disaster he was, and after that you know he was a phenomenal head coach right away. He won twelve games first year he won the west of champions they lost the division files but anyway, he went on to win two grey cops as a head coach and the went to two more that they lost. He was he was a heck of a coach and when I think about that I think about Rick Bonus when you think about his coaching career, he starred as an interim guy in the jets and A. Difficult situation didn't last he went to Boston and you know the one thing he talks about is that you know Millbury was the coach before and they kind of said that the players were beaten down by that way of coaching and they wanted someone different and he won thirty six games he went to the Stanley Cup semi final, and they basically tampered with Brian Sutter to get rid of bonus. The bruins just didn't like the mole the bruins wanted a certain kind of coach and he was unfairly fired, and then he goes to Ottawa, which is a total disaster area. You know there's nobody was going to win their Ron Maclean talks about. The store, the other night he I forgot about it when fees broke into the senator's offices and they stole everything except the game tapes, they left the game. I forgot about that story e only had a couple of spots here and there, but he never had another fair chance and he was a guy who could legitimately say that the. He went into, he wasn't set up to do well, the cards were against him. And when he was coaching in Tampa Bay, I can't remember the year Jeff he pulled me aside once I, was doing a game there and I was completely surprised and I. I was talking with someone and I was walking out of the dressing room and he said he's Like literally like who talks like that? and. It was him. And Said, I talk to you for seconds absolutely like he was always friendly got deal with he goes. Do you think I can get a head coaching job in this league again and to be honest I said, you know Rick, I didn't know you wanted to be a head coach again and you have to understand this is probably close to twenty years after his last full time job and he had. The interim job in Phoenix in two thousand and four over a decade since he'd been a head coach I didn't know you want to because I just want one more chance and you got far down the process in Anaheim didn't get it DALLAS EAKINS. I, think that was the one he got or maybe it was carlisle I can't remember it was probably Carl actually but this was a guy who. The opportunity get one more chance and when he got it this year he was like I can't believe that this is the circumstance I got it in and I will say this I think a lot of people were unsure about whether or not the bubbles would work I. Don't think we had any idea that they would be as successful from a health standpoint as they've been I think he was one of those guys. It was kind of unsure. Is this the right thing to do but I'm really glad from like here's a guy who wanted one more opportunity. He got it. In the weirdest of circumstances and now he's in the Stanley Cup final I mean, how can you not be happy for that? Thrilled for Rick Bowness I, think all of us are and when we have on the podcast earlier on this year, one of the things that really stuck with me, Elliott was how we talked about gaining victor. Henman's trust when he was with Tampa that headman always had a natural defaults to not trusting coaches and he went on to talk about how he gained his trust. Who helped me with? That was Matisse Olen because Olin lied only in Vancouver had a great rapport with him and then he signed with Tampa. So when when I did sign with Tampa talked a lot of with abode victor. He said he's had a lot of coaches when a young player comes into our league and has three or four five coaches. He's here three or four hundred different voices different approaches. He said he doesn't really trust coaches. So soon as I heard that, okay, that's interesting. So my first approach with victory, we didn't talk hockey. We just talked family we talked off ice stuff. We didn't talk about coaching as a player. I knew I had to build his trust before we could even drove into the hockey so I spent a lot. It's again you're not spending a lot of time with them away from the rink, but every chance I get, I would sit with the victim we'd talk and and again, it wasn't about on ice stuff it was everything but on ice stuff I, knew I had to build a report with him I. Knew I had to build this trust and you could see what a great player is going to be He. Didn't realize it, but we could see it and I've I've say this would victor all the time I've never seen a guy narrow league that is six foot six that can skate like Victor Hedman and does all the great things that kid can do I think he just needed to trust somebody and you need to know that we had is back and that we were there to help them not just to. Throw our philosophy on them all the time I had to build that trust and then I, had to let him play instincts and we just Kinda we had that relationship that eventually there was a solid trust in today like victims like an adopted son to my wife Judy night we just loved the kid and we still stay in touch with them on victor ones. One of my all time favorite players that coach and just a wonderful kid. But again, it's like it's like a son to me. He's in this Dallas situation this season and I don't think this gets enough concert personally Elliott. The difficult situation that Rick bowness walked into nobody wants to get a job. Way. Nobody wants that's first of all nobody wants that to happen to anybody. But here, Rick bowness finds himself now as the head coach of the Dallas Stars interim and he's in a situation where the players know and players always knew. What was happening with Jim Montgomery? He walks into the situation. Now's a former assistant one that as a good assistant coach would defend his head coach and so the first thing that bonus needs to do I thought Victor Hedman all the time when I thought bonus was going through with the stars first thing he had to do. Was Build Trust with these Dallas Stars players. The way the Montgomery did it. I was told was a very sort of unique and modern version of how you build a team and how you build chemistry and how you get guys to come together. That wasn't going to work anymore with Dallas with this collection of players. So bonus did it the old school way when I'm told is bonus. Didn't do what is now considered traditional team building. He did it with one on one conversations and he did it with getting to know not just the players by getting to know of the players families as well. There was one game that I was told were Dallas didn't particularly play very well, and where normally the coach would come in and kick the garbage can and yell and scream. Bonus comes in. Grabs a chair. And sits down and says, okay. What happened. and. Sort of went around the room and said, do you guys think the problem was coaching? Do, I need to do better. What do I need to do? What do you guys need from me? and. That's the style that Rick Bonuses had all season long with the Dallas Stars and Elliott you see in the results now like this was an up and down season for the Dallas Stars like how many times did you watch Dallas and say man says Daily Cup Team and other times you watch and say this team doesn't even belong in the playoffs. that. Was a kind of year that Dallas had coming off the situation with Montgomery. And Bonus got these guys back one conversation at a time and I thought of what he told. US Abo- Victor Hedman I got us to trust by talking to him not about hockey but about him. All the time in the world for this guy, all the time in the world for Rick Bowness. I think that's a great story and I think most people agree like people really like. And it'll be interesting to see like we talked about this last week and then Scotto Gas Jim Nilo about it in Jim Neal said, he's earned it and hopefully down the road he wants it. So it sounds like it's Rick Bonuses Decision Although contracts always can become a problem especially now but. Rick bowness it sounds like it's his decision. Our conversation with Rick, bowness by the way from earlier, this year will be in the show description. Give that one a listen. We love doing it sticking with coaches. There's going to be a lot of coach on this week's podcast. Jeff Ward has the interim tag taking off taking off of him, your thoughts on that, and I guess, maybe one of the questions is, why did it take so long to year deal first of all, you know I just think they wanted to be unemotional about it. You know there was a lot of frustration. After, they lost the way the season ended I just wanted to sit back and breathe and Brad tree living. He's not a guy that really jumps into everything. He really takes his time he tries to think he tries to. AM. I missing anything here he collects information. It's kind of process. I wouldn't be surprised if you sat back and looked around and said, is there anybody else out there are missing? Alternately I think that they just decided that they had a guy that they knew and it's GonNa be a big time for the flames. You know they could make some changes and they had the guy they knew and. You know they probably could say look we only want to do this for two years. Ward might be more agreeable to that than some other candidates are lavish. Let we're going to talk to had three. At the end they go with the guy, they knew. We had Jeff Word on the Hockey Central Program on Tuesday afternoon and toward the end of the interview I said listen which player or which players do we consistently get wrong when we talk about your team and his answer was pretty interesting. I really think that you don't have to look any further than the than the two guys that people talk about with our team all the time, and that's Johnny to drill and Sean Bonham. These guys are tremendous. Hockey players I. Think a lot of people get it wrong with Johnny the you know they come out and they talk about him not carrying and there's some that he cares he's he's tremendous young man he wants to win. He takes an awful lot of pride in his craft. He's done an awful lot of things to help our team gets better. I think sometimes he gets misrepresented an awful lot. There always seems to be pressure on him. He needs to do more needs to do more. but this is guy we just want him to become comfortable with his process and move along his own path and his development. The way they didn't needs to be you know, I, think that we don't want to change him. We just want him to do the things that he needs to do in order to win and he I think he's a little bit misunderstood and then we're Sean you know he he did an awful lot this year I was really really impressed at how it came out and he changed his game. He wanted to become a better two hundred foot player. It was very, very evident as game I thought he was excellent for us. especially the playoffs I mean. You know they wanted more screwing up everybody's still let our team in scoring. He was he was much much better from the pocket took an awful lot of pride in being able to do that. I thought he played way harder than what I'd seen him play in the past and he dedicated himself to that. But you know those guys for me I think get a little bit misrepresented and I think it's probably in part just because the players on our team and I think sometimes you don't have success, it's easy to point the finger to those guys but. they're quality people quality players in our lineup, and we're all glad to have them. I thought that was an interesting answer out of Jeff Warden I was expecting him to say Milan Lucia personally I'm not surprised. He would do that because I think we're learning one thing about Jeff Ward in the head coaching positions he won't pile on right Like right now, the heat is really on Guterro and Monahan. So he defends them like after they lost he defended Cam Talbot, right Oh yeah. And so that says to me that that's a coach who says when someone struggling. I'm going to defend them. I'm not piling on I'm going to support them. And that's what I think. He's doing their you know the good roll thing. We'll see like there's a lot of rumors about him but I think. Calgary. has made it very clear that they're not going to rush into this to do anything stupid like they're going to take their time and they're going to be smart. The thing about Monahan I really believe is if you look at him, he scores from in front of the net, he's very good there but that means you have to find someone who can get the puck to him there. So if you're taking out of the lineup, who's that guy you're gonNA make Monahan less effective unless you get somebody there who can do that? All Right more on coaching Peter laviola speak a little bit later on on the podcast is the new head coach of the Washington capitals listen has been wildly successful Stanley Cup champion with the hurricanes Stanley Cup final Philadelphia Flyers Stanley Cup final Nashville predators this is a Washington capitals team that is closer to being old than being young. Is this the right fit for the caps fridge I think so they want like we're GonNa talk to about this and one of the things I heard about Latvia Latte is he's very forceful, but he does it in a way that's not embarrassing. And one of the national guys told me that you the players knew if he was annoyed at someone if that person got called into the hallway or if that person got called into a private meeting with Laviola, let like they would joke, uh-huh, you're in trouble because he wouldn't do it in front of the team. He didn't believe in singling out in front of the team I was listening to the spinning chocolates podcast the other night. With. Christopher stieg and he talked about how you know he went through the legs in one of his first. NHL Games in Joel Quenneville was so mad like don't bring night junior bleep. into the NHL, and but he pulled them into the hallway during a game to do it, and that's what I heard is vote Laviola like he demands accountability like I remember doing a Saturday night hockey night in Canada Game Not long after they trade for Ryan Johannesen and he benched Johannesson in Edmonds and he's not afraid to do that and if he Has To do it during a game because you're not getting the message, he's going to do it but if he's got to speak to you, he doesn't like to do it in front of the team. He will pull you aside and do it that way but he's blind and he is direct and he will let you know what he doesn't like he's. Bitten Tim dating because he rarely smiles but he puts you in position to succeed. He believes an offense he believes in activating the D.. He believes in if you have the PUCK, other people have to get out of your way and get into positions where you can score because he wants that person to be able to get the puck to you in a scoring position. He's a demanding hard guy, but he's hard but fair and we've all talked about this. The capitals felt that that slid on them that their players lost that accountability I'm that they weren't the same. They didn't have the same edge and the thing that Latvia brings back is edge. Now, just a couple of details about this. In the zoom conference call on. Tuesday. Latvia lead said they had one phone interview and to in person. Interviews. There was a fourth conversation I. think that conversation was with Bruce Boudreau but I don't think it went to an interview, the zoom or phone interview whatever it is was Gerard Gallant and the issue with Gerard Galant was he's in Pi and the border made it really impossible like you can't cross the border to meet face to face without you know the quarantine so that really screwed everything up and so he said he met face to face with two people. One was Laviola at. And the other was with Mike Babcock, and that I believe was that Mike Babcock's place. Someone told me that it was kind of like babcock invite him to like a family dinner slash cut and I'll tell you this. I haven't spoken to Babcock and Colin didn't WanNa go there. But this is what I heard is that he got invited to like a family slash cookout I heard it was a good interview and like someone said were the players against this the best of my information. I'm told no that I think there might have been some players who were curious but I didn't hear of any who raised any objections. Right now that if you're going to hire babcock, there's going to be noise right because of everything the way ended in. TORONTO. And I just don't know of Washington wanted that and I think that might have been the decisive issue I think they liked about what? What Babcock told them as a coach you know I like I said I, heard his interview was good but McClellan said look like when I wanted to talk about his his position Wise luck we made the higher. I'M NOT GONNA get too much into it, but that's what I could tell and I don't even know if the problem was McClellan, it might have gone higher than him and especially since next year we don't know when next year's going to start. It's more about you have to wait longer for Babcock to get in there to start coaching. So there's more talk about everything else. And I I think that was a factor I do and you know allowed let's been successful. He's won a Stanley companies taking two more teams to the final I mean you can't argue with what he's done like there's this thing about hiring recycled coach like I. I don't know the guy's been to three Stanley Cup finals in the last fourteen years and he's won one how many coaches have that success. All right. Elliot let's pick up and further along a story that we've been talking about for a couple of weeks now and Bill Zito most recently. Named General Manager of the Florida Panthers made some announcements this week to the hockey operations staff, Rick Dudley and Paul Fenton or both now senior advisors to build zito coming in as VP of player personnel and development is Gregory Campbell assistant to the General Manager Blake Jeffrey on and PJ Fenton has been named to the clubs scouting staff. Also, Mike Kitchen will not return on the bench with Joel Quenneville and Doug Janik will not be joining the squad as they transition to their farm team moving to Charlotte's that's a lot. What do you make of it? I chance to speak to bills, Edo, today, and. You know that a lot of that stuff's going to appear in the blog which is coming out on Thursday same as the podcast you always said, he wanted to get his hockey staff in place and now he's GonNa Start. You know looking at some things he says he's gotten a lot of calls from GM's asking about what he's thinking of doing. He's said that he's not going to rush into anything although he's willing to listen to everything. He said look I'm gonNA listen to everything. But it doesn't necessarily mean. I'm going to do everything we along talk about the Brodsky he said that he knows him. You know he said that he was going to bet on him that he will put in the effort to fix whatever he needs to fix, and they're gonNA put. The effort to fix whatever goes on around him. He didn't give me a lot on what he's thinking about with his roster i. asked him about rumors they wanted to cut payroll. And he said I haven't been told that he said the only mandate he's been given is to make the team better, and that's what he's. GonNa do is that unique normally when you when you interview for a position, the team is interviewing you are you also not at the same time interviewing them in the sense of where do you see this going? What resources will I be afforded? Are we looking to slash? Are we looking to add? Are we at CAP team? Does that normally happen in the in the in the course of a conversation the you would think that but if he was giving any explicit details about that, you know he wasn't sharing them but I said, look there's a rumor going around that. You've been told to cut payroll and he said that's not what I've been told. You talked about something on headlines that raise a lot of eyebrows in that is Angela Ruggiero. was approached as well. Can you go further on that story? So I'd heard a rumor that Angela jarrow had been approached to interview for the. Florida job. And you know basically to fill people, they're not sure who she is Azzurra Gyros, a four-time US Olympia and she's won gold in ninety eight. Then she appeared three more times. She's a member of the hockey hall of fame. She was a really intimidating player like strong intense could be nasty tough tough player and she has a lot of respect. There's a lot of people who really respect her. On the ice off it, she's pretty smart person she worked for a year in the new. York. Islanders Front Office under Charles Wong working in business operations. She went to Harvard she got her Mba she started up company and I believe that and I think cassie said it on air last Saturday night that if there ever is a w NHL, she wouldn't be surprised to. She's involved like I've heard there's there's People in the NHL who really have time for her they think very highly of her and I don't know if they suggested the panthers interview her or not I mean somebody is obviously her champion somebody suggested you know why don't you interview Angela Jero and they reached out to her and I guess they called her the weekend before Zito got the job and she asked for a few days to think about it. But when she got back to them. They'd already decided that it was going to be Zito. So what that says to me is that She's in the mix. For a front office job somewhere like if she wants to get back into hockey fulltime there's going to be opportunities for her i. get the sense that there are people in the NHL who want her to learn more about the business like I believe if someone's smart, you find room for them in your organization and I think the NHL sees her as very smart and they wanna find room for her in the organization and I don't know of too many people wanted this to get out there but I don't think it bothers people that it's out there that you know she wants to get back into hockey and maybe people should talk to her so her name will. Now Start to pop up amongst a lot of the other likely candidates when GM positions become available assistant general manager positions become available. We should expect to hear that name essentially a lot more in the coming future. I think. So and I would agree too with what Cassie said if there ever is W NHL or anything like that I wouldn't be surprised if maybe who knows maybe she could be the commissioner I don't know what they'd be thinking but this is a person who was hall of Fame Level Player and now has a business background like there's a lot to light there and she already had a lot of respect before and nothing is going to change now. Sticking with the Florida Panthers, the my kitchen situation will not be back behind the bench. So this is a complicated story and The night before the story broke I think there were a number of us were chasing it. I. Reached out to the. Agent of the player who's behind it, and I'm not going to name the player and I was told the player didn't WanNa talk and then I was working on trying to confirm the details and it got out. And you know one of the things that. Happened here is this. So Joel Quenneville got to Florida this year and we've talked about it on the podcast. He felt the team needed to toughen up. The situation there is to for lack of a better term. Easy. Is Not, a lot of media There's not a lot of pressure. There's no state tax. It's a good easy fun place to live in play I will tell you the one of the more interesting conversations had. In the last few days, Jeff Wise Y is Tampa. So successful and Florida isn't. They're basically the same situation like I'm sure there's reasons that Tampa better place to live and reasons that the east coast side is a better place to live I. Don't know enough about that to know one way or the other, but they're both no tax state Tampa had a had a stronger fan base. Both sides have had their ownership issues at times. Poe sides of had Fannie issues at times. Tampa's One Stanley Cup Florida has had a lot of playoff success, but you look at Tampa and they're Kinda soon as the model franchise and Florida isn't and really should it be that different? Is there any reason that you can see jeff that it's that different? With the Florida Panthers, it's always seemed as if people WANNA play in Florida but not the panthers. There's the Arizona situation great place to live great place to make some money what I was always told about this edition of the Florida. Panthers in this. Winks back, what you're talking about is the coat that I. was told that has always stuck with me is we lose to easy. Why is that and and but that's my point. Is there. Any reason that Florida's situations be different than Tampa? No. Same advantages exactly. Exact. Same advantages. I think Quenneville got there this year with kitchen and they said that there's no reason that the man's on the PL- should be any different and that is demanding on their players. Nobody is more demanding than Steve is was and cooper can be really demanding. So I think they said we have to create the same kind of thing here and kitchen is demanding guy and I think with this particular player they battled this year they butted heads kitchen trying to force them to show more and you know the player and him weren't seeing eye-to-eye and on this one shift in. Minnesota the player got upset took a water bottle and either and either squeezed it or through it or whatever happened and kitchen got soaked. You know the allegation is that kitchen kicked him. And I heard that it was brought forward and it was denied. There was another player who apparently backed this first player side. And initially when my kitchen did not return for the return to play. I thought it was a covert related thing because kitchens in his mid sixties and even though he's in good shape, you know you're if you're older, you're more vulnerable and now we understand that wasn't the case you know I know where this is going to go bite something happened. Once player said it happened. Apparently kitchen denied it and another player back the first player. And you know you can't do that anymore. So I don't know if this is going to go anywhere else but that's kind of where we are. was there any indication from Bill Zito in your conversation about the influence that Joel Quenneville will have? With this organization I'm not saying that Joel Quenneville is going to be able to override trades or you know make trades on his own re anything like that. But this is a guy that carries a big stick. This is a guy that wields a lot of power based on who he is his track record, and if the panthers going to do anything, it's going to be in large part because of Joel Quenneville behind the bench. Any indication he's GonNa have some stroke in the management setup. I don't know if you'll get stroke but his opinion obviously matters. For example, one player who I've heard might end up in Florida is Mark Board yet Sqi. Now what do we know above board yet ski Great Team Guy Tough yes and we know he's not going back to Ottawa. To me when you're saying, you're not going back to eighteen. One of two things happens either that team and you realize it's not working or you think that there's a market out there for you. I've heard that that is the kind of player. That Florida's interested in will they be one of the busier? Teams? I don't know if they'll be busy like I ask though like I like I said, I heard a rumor that they were GonNa cut and like I said, zero said to me they're not gonna do that necessarily. But what he did tell me he's getting a lot of calls. and. He's just GonNa kind of evaluate it. The he wouldn't discuss specific players other than Brodsky but you look at his blue line he's got flat at seven and a half for five more years. He's got Yandell at six, three, five for three more years. He's got stroman at five five, two more years and he's got matheson at four, eight, seven, five, four, six more years. I, think they're going to try and move someone there. Well, I always come back to and I believe the phrase that Brian Burke uses when describing this here's shovel out the barn. Before. You can show the horses. How much of this right now, if you're bill zito is just I can't make my team until I get rid of some players, I? Think he's got to determine what the value is of his players. You gotTA figure out. How do people feel about your guys around the League? I mean, he's worked with your Mayo Kick Elaine in Columbus for a while. Yes. They're not kind of be a consensus. Okay. This is Yan. Does value. This is matheson with the big ticket, but you know what you think of Yandell or Matheson Erect Blad. In. Your market. But you don't know what the other necessarily. Twenty nine teams think of Act Bladder Handler Matheson. You'll know that. You think you know that but you don't know that. All right. More deals will head from Florida to Minnesota where Bill Garin is anything but silent bill garin is anything but inactive, we will get to the bucs Tad deal here in a second elliot but the latest deal involves the Minnesota wild and the Buffalo Sabres Eric. STALL GOES TO BUFFALO IN EXCHANGE FOR MARKUS Johannesson. So buffalo gets their long coveted second line center Markus. Johannesson. Who We believe is intended to be a center with the Minnesota. Wild. finds a new home Minnesota picks up more salary on this one Johannesen is four point five on the Cap Eric Stall Three, point two, both have one year left on their deals work with us on this one elliot what happened What's interesting about this is that yesterday which is, Tuesday, players had to resubmit their new list of. Teams that could block trades to if they had that option. And both Johansen and stall had those clauses. It was ten teams apiece and neither team was in a situation where they could block a trade to where they went to. And so they made the deal. And I was really surprised Minnesota would trade stall as Bill Garin said on the zoom call I was on I said I was going to make change and if I don't. Do the same things are going to happen and I think everybody's kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop, which has DOUMBA and we'll get to that in a second. I think Buffalo when they heard that stall could not block to them. I, think they want him really badly they've been looking for a number to center behind Eichel they really wanted to upgrade their. He actually makes last next year than Johannesen does. And that fits with what they're trying to do and plus there's a lot of connections there. There's Jeff Skinner who they have to get going played with stall. There's Kevin Adams who's running the team. Now he played with stall I think they jumped at it I think stall was surprised. I think initially he was disappointed you know one of the things I kind of think because buffalo does get put on a lot of these lists I think one of the reasons that they weren't there is because. I don't think Eric's stall considered. The Buffalo would be a team that would be interested in him because rely heard. Yeah. The reason I would pause on that is isn't there a sort of feeling out there in the community that buffalo is looking for a second line center behind Jack Eichel. This may be a reflection on casey middle stat, that's the position they. Intended for him and his development is not there. That's probably for another conversation but I mean we were hearing No. Well, if Sean Hans going to be available this, he end up there like any player who could be a potential second line center that name was married to Buffalo Yeah Jeff I'm not going to argue with any of that but I think if you take a look at the kinds of teams that have chased after Eric Stall in the last few years, buffalo does not fit the profile. Like someone told me that there were about five teams in the last two years that tried to trade for Eric Staal. Nine Oh Boston was one and he was like, no no I. He's building a home in Minnesota I. think that's where he plans on retiring. Buffalo looking for a number to center, but would you have thought that Eric? Stall fit the profile of what buffalo was going to do I would have thought younger more term. I would look at pretty much anyone who can fill that spot until Casey Middle Stat as Buffalo Crosses, their fingers is ready. Well. That is why you're smarter than me. Another I go that far because I wouldn't have guessed and I think that that's exactly what happened here. So I think stall. Buffalo they're not GonNa want me and he doesn't put them on the list and suddenly he gets traded there. So back to Minnesota the so they get the player was twenty nine years old Markus Johannesson plays left-wing plays centre as well and. He said on the conference call that of course Dean Henderson coached him in Washington Yup and it looks like he's going to play some center there. Now the Cabral's fans on twitter in some capitals people I spoke to. They don't want to Impugn Johannesen. That's interested in ripping this guy. But they think it'll be a challenge and if you look at Minnesota down the middle right now it's Johannesen it's Ericsson ac it's bucs Tad. It's D'Amato it's Victor Rask Nikos term if they Nikos term yes. Thank you for mentioning Nikos term because I ask 'cause I was on the zoom call with the other Minnesota reporters and I said you need to get another center right? Now and you know he gave the good answer, which is you're always looking for sanders but he also said if he had to go in it with this group, he would go into it with this group and he mentioned Rask that they have to give them a chance to play and he also mentioned sturm. He liked what stern did in his brief appearance in Edmonton. So. I mean I gotta think you still looking for senators. There's no question about it, but it sounds like at the very least if he's got to do it this way, he's going to do it this way. Also on the call and I know we're putting off the dumb conversation here. But also on that call, I believe Garin talked about Alex Couch. Yes Sarah McClellan asked that question and he said that he met with ours talked to Galkina ex agent and he's not coming back. It doesn't sound like but the other thing that's interesting is that he has repeatedly declined to address Mikko Koivu I think he feels that's EMECO Koivu. Right to answer? By the way I heard stall to was disappointed because he found out of the trade from on twitter. That's a tough one. But that's kind of the reality of right now. Isn't it? Yeah that's it is. But you know I would bet that there's a guy who's played for close to twenty years. He's hoping for a little bit better than that I get it referencing bucs data a couple of seconds ago, and here's someone that was highly coveted for a number of years. In Florida, I, believe the original Roberta Longo trade discussions One of the asks back from Vancouver was bucs Tad worn the trade deadline's when Florida was trying to get Matthew Perot from Winnipeg I. believe the ask back was boost that and it was a hard no are from the Florida Panthers. He goes to the Pittsburgh Penguins in Florida them to be a center ended up as a winger Ditto with the Pittsburgh Penguins but Minnesota sees him as the center. Correct. Yes they did. He mentioned him specifically when I asked the vote centers, he mentioned specifically that he sees them as a center. These are two big gambles down the metal. Aren't they bucs Tad and Johanneson I asked a couple of people. You know what scaring looking to do. And the answer was he's looking to change mix up front. And he's looking to get younger. Like if you look at their team, they're older. Yes. And he wants youth. And it's not like these guys are supremely young by there's something a little different there. bucs Tad is what twenty seven he's twenty eight he just turned twenty eight Yep Joe, Hanson's what nine. That's still not young Kevin Fiala pop for them big this year. Yes, and he's twenty three. The other thing that's interesting about Fidel is I think he just changed agents. His contracts after next year and he just changed agents. I think he's a Newport guy. Now that's an so that usually says your negotiation is about to change so. But I heard he wants to change his mix and make his team younger. Okay well Carrillo Capris. Off is, common. Lukanen is still young twenty two mentioned Kevin Fiala. I mean, there's a sort of whole generation though of players that they've missed out on Joel Eriksson acas only twenty three years old as well. I, mean, I, remember when when Fenton took over that job Paul Fenton, I remember looking at, you know looking at the roster and looking at the salary cap commitments and say to myself this team's frozen. They even offense and wanted to do something. How can you? When you have this many guys on this many big numbers at this much term. And garin still fighting that isn't he? I understand why Garin doesn't want to comment on Koivu lead Koivu make his own announcement I understand that but I, don't think anybody expects him back. No, he's not coming back like I expect you know Koi to you know announce and do it on his own but you still have sack Parisi. You still have the mats Zuccarello deal like you still have some Victor Rask because it four million bucks for a couple of years aesop some guys on term here like sizable. You saw the Ryan suter deal and he's thirty five years old PARISA. Yeah and they just most recently what a couple of December's go past the halfway point of their deals like. This is a tough one like there's a lot of heavy lifting here for Bill Garam before he gets at the team that he wants like I said he that one quote on the call if I don't make moves, nothing will happen. It'll stay the same right By the way you have a quick thought on the Yoenis Bodine. Extension. There's a lot of people out there really think proteins a hell of a player like when they drafted Brodine somebody in that organization told me that he's GonNa play for Twenty Years Fifteen twenty years and you don't know who he is but he's a good player and you're happy to have him. He may not be the most known guy but he's a valuable guy. So He's the guy that teammates say this guy is really good pay attention an coaches say I. Love sending the sky over the boards. That's a good contract seven times. Six is a good deal and I think that it goes back to the whole thing like if you even the Cova Times, if you're a good player and a team knows you you're going to get paid and that's what happened here and that leads us to Donda and I asked Gary on on the call look since you made the extension and that was on Tuesday have you reached out to Doumba? And he said, no, he said he would not make him an empty promise This is I'm not gonNA tell him he's not GonNa get traded when he could but he made it pretty clear. He's in no rush. And he's going to make the right deal. Now I think there's a lot of action around there. I do I, think Vancouver's in there I think Winnipeg's in there you I wouldn't be surprised if Calgary's in. I O no Toronto's in there. I'm not sure if they're in it or not. You know I'm sure there's teams outside of candidates are in it too. I'm sure there's a lot of interest and I just think that Garin is going to try to be patient on this one but you know people is said to me you know they're looking hard looking hard was the phrase I got. There's no guarantee that anything happens but they're looking heart. Rate Shot defensemen in the prime of his career anybody looking for that round the The NHL Elliott signed for three years. Yeah. But Garin said like fuel stick with them all year and Dombrowski names came up last year. And Garin said I don't have to do anything. And he didn't. And so you know Boden's names not coming up anymore but his is and you always look for history but you know I will tell you the League would be a lot more fine if everybody was like Garin and referred. Okay I WANNA. Do something I'm just GonNa do it. They just do with each other. It's like all right trade time I'M GONNA, call it Jim Right Trade Tom I'M GONNA call Bill like that's the battery for getting things done like when you see that spark between those general managers, make sure to get the twitter immediately. One more thing with the Minnesota Wild. Do you expect either goaltender back. DUBNA can stay look. I actually heard that before much traded for Allen. They talked about Dubcek Goop Nick has one more year on term at four point three. He said he's going to try to make a change in Google. Right. The market is there for it. Matt Murray. Would it surprise you at all if no 'cause, I'm just trying to make for deals now with Bill Garin like that's the game new. Again, we've talked about this I think the concern about Murray's the number. All right. The one thing we know about this podcast is it's tricky to record especially right now at this time, because news is always happening and when news breaks Elliott, fix it. So Elliott fixed the Arizona GM search story for us. So Bill Armstrong is going to be named is the GM and the official announcement may come Thursday I heard on the weekend that it was trending in his direction although you're always careful I just heard on Saturday. That things were really moving towards him and the offer was made on Tuesday night and I guess accepted Wednesday. He's started to move up the list and the last couple of years like first of all when your team wins the COP. You move. That's kind of the way it works like a rising tide floats all boats right up. By around a couple of years ago, people started to tell me that this was a guy who I had to start watching and one of the reasons is Kinda done everything right? He's been a player. He won a memorial copy scored Memorial Cup winning goal and one of the most famous Memorial Cup Games ever. You want to tell everybody the story that was the Oshawa generals and the kitchen rangers, and that is overtime the Schwab. General's the kitchen rangers that one is a copps coliseum. Interestingly enough it was supposed to be the Hamilton Dukes or rather the dukes of Hamilton a hosting that thing but the had such a miserable season that they didn't end up being involved at all Lavalle and Kamloops with the other two. But that was that was a clash of like to powerhouse teams. The kitchen rangers squad was good and Oshawa is of course led by. The Legend in Oshawa Eric Lindros and he scores the goal show Windsor Fourth Moral Cup and he goes down in history as one of the most clutch goal scorers in the history of that tournament he was drafted by the flyers but never played in Nhl game he played in the NHL for a long time he played in the IHL for about a decade and he's kind of gone up every role he was. Coach in Providence and basically became an assistant coach. Just as he retired you know then he was a head coach in providence he was a head coach in the h. l. and then started moving up the scouting ranks. He's been in charge of amateur scouting and a couple years ago. I think the Saint Louis had to promote him to kind of keep them because other teams were trying to give them promotions elsewhere in their organizations. You know someone told me it was just a matter of time. He's a bright bright guy and I think that's one of the things that attracted people to him. As he's done different roles he's been a player he's been assistant coach. He's been a head coach. He's been a scout. He's had managerial responsibilities or organizational responsibilities including running age L. teams and things like that. He's dipped his hand in a lot of different places. I will tell you this like. There were a lot of people who felt a lot of different things about Arizona and the bonuses. The fact that they were late with their premiums you know all of this kind of stuff. In. There's only thirty two of these jobs and they are coveted and I think there were some people who said to him. Are you sure I heard he just said look I want the opportunity and I wanna go for it and I hope it works out for him. You know one of the things that's going on now it's a story I'm working on and it might get out before the podcast gets out. Is that you know they're having a bit of a battle with the lease over there arena. And I think that they've been served notice that some money is owed on the lease. And I don't know of the organizations in financial trouble I doubted it could be a situation where they're kind of saying we'd rather pay closer to win were playing again in sometimes these things all need to get worked out. So if this story gets out before the podcast drops, you'll understand it but if not, basically there's a lease battle right now with the company that owns the arena they play it. And I just think that there's a lot of things going on around this franchise right now that were red flags for people bite. People want these jobs. So I was speaking to someone earlier on this week about. China, and this is someone in the Blues Organization who said, What Are you hearing about Arizona and I said I hear it's your guy and he said Yeah I know I've I've seen a lot of things online. He said that would be a huge loss for us. He's well thought of. In that Blues Organization he's big. WHO's your source in Saint Louis Armstrong was. Not. Given that one up. But it was a quick conversation was ooh, that's loss for us. If that's true the like Saint Louis is a really smart front. Office? So they've got Doug Armstrong has got a lot of experience. They've got Larry Pablo who's been around forever. Yeah. They've got AL macinnis who's been around forever and as a hall of Famer they've got Keith Tkachuk and guys tell me that Keith could shocks opinions on hockey are excellent like he really adds a lot to the conversation there they've got robbed Demayo who played for twenty years and this was an opinion that was respected amongst that entire group and I think that's everything you need to know like I've heard that Those blues meetings, they really think it's one of the reasons they want because they're really honest and blunt meetings were all sorts of different perspectives get introduced and people listen to perspectives though these different perspectives so I think if you're widely thought of in that or highly thought of in that, it's probably a very good endorsement, Elliott. Also Saint Louis I'm a big believer as I'm sure you are as well in Second Chances Jim. Montgomery. Now, the assistant coach of the Saint Louis Blues over the spot held last season by Marc Savard. Yeah and first of all, I sent a note to mark just to make sure he was good and haven't heard from him. So I hope he's doing well, I heard that Babcock had gone the Washington there was a chance Montgomerie was going with them. So I'm not surprised. He was in the mix I mean I'm really happy to hear it. This is a person who's coming back from a lot and you want them to do well and part of. Doing well is getting back and doing something you're comfortable with a spot that you're comfortable with and Jim. Montgomery is comfortable with coaching. I. Hope this'll help like I. Really do I hope the fact that he's going to be back in a hockey environment in a good situation coaching is going to be good for him. So you know I think we all wish him. The Best Team were all happy to see him back. This is a challenging year as we all know from his family but as far as Jim Montgomery, the coach goes I mean his reputation as a coach focusing strictly on the hockey was that this guy was a rising star no there are a number of teams I believe we talked about the Rangers last season before they made the move with. Quinn investigated Montgomery because he was so highly sought after as one of these nextwave new breed NHL coaches. So I'm glad that he's got his personal situation sorted out I'm assuming that he does and that him and his family are solid and you know at the end of it, there's a released smart coach that's back in the coaching mix in the NHL. Elliott. Yeah and you know you wish him the best to his family. You know we had a chance to talk to him. You know a few months after he'd been let go and was trying to find his way back and I mean, the toughest thing was interviewing his wife because you know Jeff you know you and I were both married, we live public lives though not as public as a guy like Jim Montgomery but are good moments. Our bad moments they're seen publicly and our wives suffer with that right and. You know why I remember just when I was talking to her on the phone the no. She talked about how they were gonNA stay together and how they were going to work through this together and You know like all. I can really say is. I. Wish them the best, I. I can't help. But think that this is a great thing. I think Craig Baru Bay is smart. They've got Mike Van. Ryan to on that stuff It's a Great Front Office Organization we talked about it and you just hope for Jim and emily that This is a big step for them in their family. They've got a big family. Think they got four kids you need that stability you need to know for self worth contributing to your family is so important and I think this will help I'm really happy for that. A couple more things here before we get to Peter Live Hewlett, who's our guest this week on thirty one thoughts the podcast. What happens next in Vegas? Now Fridge I mean, all eyes are on the goaltending situation but there's you know decisions past Leonard versus flurry with with about four or five million dollars worth of available cap space some restricted free agents to sign and this goalie issue looming large over all of it. It's what happens now at the nights. You should describe to our audience because you know him from junior hockey and everything you should explain Kelly macroom into people, Kelly mccrimon, Brandon wheat kings, builder of Champions developer of elite level players. The Brandon wheat kings are for a number of years have been one of the Cadillac Organizations of the Western Hockey League. You can. You know our listeners from Ontario? If you WANNA context this is kind of like what the London Knights? To the Ontario Hockey League the Brandon Wheat Kings are to the Western league in a lot ways It's run like a mini NHL. They consistently crank out high high and players, and it is always a competitive team and a lot of that is because of the the hard work of Kelly criminal this team has just been sold to a local business interests but Kelly crimmins I think an auto as his chase for excellence and his ability to identify and develop hyon players is what many think in the long run you know landed him in Vegas in the first place he's a really smart hockey guy. And he's not afraid. No No. No. Not at all he's bold and he'll make. Any as a mandate from that owner to make big moves because as we've Seen Bill Foley wants a Stanley Cup yesterday. Thank you very much. Well, first of all I. Think the first thing they have to do is they're going to have to sit down with flurry. You know I'm a believer in this. Robin Leonard Five by five thing I think there's a good chance it's going to happen. So now, all the sudden you got twelve million on your goalies. And this is not the year that you want to have to try to move a goalie. There's just too many of them, right? And he's going to have two years at seven each basically to move it's going to be hard. Even though flurry is hugely respected and I still think he's got a lot to offer i. just think at this time that's not going to be easy. Now, I thought that he would get bought out because I think flurry will want to move on and to be perfectly honest Pittsburgh News Matt Murray I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he ends up back there working with Tristan Jari. Bite. I thought they were going to buy out. If they couldn't trade him. Someone said to me today they're not sure there'd Vegas wants to do that. So I think number one you've got to figure out is. What are you doing in goal like there's been a lot of rumblings about portraying Gelo and Vegas and. Someone told me today they were wondering if Vegas might take run if it's not portraying slow at Torrey cruch. Hang on hang up where's all this cap space coming from? Well, that's the thing like. To me that Vegas wants to make changes. I really do believe that Vegas is like we can win we can be better and we WANNA make changes. Their aggressive and owners aggressive and mccrum is aggressive. While, they found themselves a a norris trophy candidate in Shea. Theodore. That's come internal I looked at this team and I, said, you know next year cody class will probably be on the team. Maybe peyton crabs as well. She has some guys that can contribute on some manageable deals but if you WANNA think about bringing back I mean Chandler Stevenson's restricted Nick cousins is a restricted. You make the move with. Robin. Lehner like how are you moving out some of this money to bring all these guys in. Well, the other thing too about is that the shape Theodore's a lefty on your first power play and I don't know are you doing that but if you WanNa make yourself better, you get better players like the one thing is about Vegas if they WANNA move guys depending on what they WANNA do they'll have good players that they can move they. have good players on pig tickets though you've got one more year of Paul Staff knee at six point five. Yup Three more of Max Patrick Ready at seven. But then you start moving these guys and all of a sudden, you can say what you want a book last crabs and I just did but then you kind of have to replace these guys. I wonder on their Blue Line though. I do. Well, YOU'RE GONNA move in exact white clouds. got that spot Yup will you probably GONNA move in? So he's going to bump somebody right Yup and he's under a more manageable contract but that's still doesn't free up enough money to make the types of moves again, if you're going to bring back cousins if you're gonNA bring. Back, Stevenson that doesn't free up enough money to make the move. So we're talking about here doesn't all first of all flurry like number one is going to do with flurry. Number two, you need a new contract for Chandler Stevenson who played really well there. So you gotta deal with that and he's got our bright's the only thing I can think of there is. Let's just say for argument's sake that they're interested in a potential or. Anything else. First of all, you got to know you can get them secondly, you can go ten percent over the cap and the off season, and then you make your move like it's kind of like what we're talking about with Vancouver Right Vancouver I. Think they're going to see if they can re-sign any of these guys Marxism. Tan Of. To Foley and to fully might be the easiest and then decide once we got it dine. Then we go back. And we see what we have to do to make it all work. That's the way I look at it in Vegas. All right. We'll pause there when we were turned, you will hear from the new bench boss Washington capitals of Peter Laviola. We are pleased to be joined now by the new head coach of the Washington Capitals Peter Laviola who has won the Stanley Cup lead teams to the Stanley Cup final and hopes to do saying with the Washington capitals first of all Peter Congratulations and before we get into the specifics of the caps in the future I'm curious about the flag when did you buy the flag? Or do you have a stash of about thirty one or soon to be thirty two of these things in your house? Yeah. We should just get them all and then just start my collection. I can see when I retire at age ninety right I'm just GonNa get I'm GonNa get thirty one flagpoles across the back of my Lake Property and just let them all rep so It was you know we knew things were going down a road where it looked like it was going to get done and you know just going through the last couple of days my wife went online and found the flag and we're up here in New Hampshire. I drove my kids back to school with my wife we drove up from Florida word kind of stationed in Florida, but we have a family lake. House with my sisters and in Meredith. New. Hampshire is just beautiful up here and we ended up taking the kids back to school and staying here and so everything kind of happen while I was up here in New Hampshire and out, they have a flagpole that has seen a few teams flags on it in the past and It was kind of naked with just the US flag and we were hoping. To put up a new one. So she went and ordered it online and it got here probably four days five days before I really became official and so for the three days Pyro, like do we just put it out to just put it out and we ended up not doing it the day that we put it out was the day before I actually got announced. It was in the evening the win was. Just ripping across the lake and you know like right now they're the flags are just hanging. There is not much wind going on but on this day I just thought the picture was awesome the American flag with the capitalist flag underneath it and the red white and blue and the way it was ripping across there. So we sent the picture into the caps and they posted it, but it was pretty cool. I have to say in this day and age Peter for you to put out capitals flag the day before the deal was done. I know. That's risky because you know someone's going to risk. See It, put it out on twitter. All the sudden got five billion likes in the story breaks like that's bold move that's a bold move. Yeah. No I know the in. So I. OH apologies to like ten people and the day before they were calling. I'll give you a quick story I was on a zoom chat with the owner. Ted Leonsis and Dick Patrick a Brian and myself and everything was quiet the day before in the morning, which is odd you know a lot of times things get out and things get leaked out and so I'm on the meeting and I I can't remember who said it but they said well, is there any sign of it being leaked in somebody looked and said, no, it's all quiet right now we're the only four that no so if we Get some. If it gets out, we know it came from this four and at that point at that point, I wasn't saying a word like I was done talking and I had guys who are texting me and everything and I had to apologize you know half a dozen people after I got analysis. I'm like I'm so sorry but wasn't gonna I wasn't going to break that bond at trust with the three people that I was on the zoom call with. Give us a sense of from your perspective. You've coached a lot of different teams and a lot of different players what was attractive about the capitals to you at this point in your career. I've moved to the West coaching now. So that was the first time other than that I've been in the east and a of some of those players have been there for a while and you get to know him I think more when you're in your conference and I think just from my time in Philadelphia and even going back to some of them in Carolina coach against them for so long guy like Lovie you really get to appreciate his talent. and. How big and powerful and strong isn't what an elite player he is, and so you don't know watching their team and going into play them and I said in an interview earlier, there's times when we were in. Nashville and you know we play the Blackhawks and we knew that we would have to play a fast game. We would have to really be able to move the PUCK and move our bodies escape with that team, and then we'd go in and. We play you know Saint Louis or we played Anaheim and we knew it had to be a heavy game like you had to change your mindset on the way you're going to play for me. Washington was one of those teams it was always big. They just had big bodies out there. They were physical Nam they had tons of talent and they've been atop team in a successful team for the last you know half dozen years or so and so the fact. That they're constantly finding themselves at the top of the the league. In the regular season they're pushing in the playoffs all the time they found success back a couple years ago in the playoffs for me, it was just a real attractive spot to be and work with the opportunity to work with a great organization. Fortunate to work in thankful that Brian gave me the opportunity to be here and and work with these players which are some top notch players. You know I was looking through and I take a look at your history with players like yet Eric Stall. At closure ru you've had Roman Yosi. Unleash a defensive player but I don't think you've ever had anyone like Ovechkin i. just wonder if I know he's older, but he's still a rocket Rashard guy is this the best offensive player you've ever coached? I mean I think from a consistency standpoint with what he's done in his career. He certainly has to be talked about like that and even this year in a shortened season I push close to fifty goals is incredible and the fact that he's done it consistently year over year just speaks to the true talented he really is, and so you know he's he was one of the first phone calls that I had this morning just to talk to him. We had a great talk for about thirty minutes and we've known each other for a long time you know I coached. The islanders but when I got to Carolina I think it was right around the time that Alex was coming in as a rookie and he's played against my teams have been coached by me and I've certainly had to coach against him and try to figure out a way to stop him and keep him in check from an opposition coaches standpoint. It's really nice to spend that thirty minutes with them today and just talk about the future and and what that might hold. So it was great conversation. Then I agree one of the greatest goal scorers to ever play the game. further to that I'm I'm always coaches and the relationships to a star player, and here's someone that you know. As you mentioned, this guy could go down and you could even make the argument now that he's the greatest goal score. The NHL has ever seen with that relationship that you'll have with him. I'm curious who bends to who does Peter Lavi let bend more to a veteran or does a veteran Ben More to Peter Laviola this isn't that you know as you mentioned ovechkin coming into the League when when you're with the hurricanes gets thirty four years old and is chasing one of the records that we all thought was never going to be beaten. I don't think it has to come down to that I, really don't I don't think it's about. For me I'm not like that I'm just not a person that walks in with an ego as a coach thinking that it's my way or the highway. Do I have beliefs on the way that the game should be played or the way you should for check or the way you should defend or what's important side of a team locker room? Absolutely. But equally is important is my relationship with the players and I think that you'll find talking to most people that usually those relationships are pretty good and I've never thought about it. Like that, since the time I took the job, I haven't sat here and pondered the the thought of well who's in charge here it's for me. I know my role I know my job because I've been in this a long time and I know what I'm supposed to do I. Feel Fortunate to get to work with some of the pieces that are already in Washington have already experienced some success and ultimately the goal is the same everybody in this organization, the players and the the owner and the management, the players and myself. Coming in as the new person, our objectives are clear. You know we want to get back in deep into the playoffs in and compete and challenge win a Stanley Cup. Ideally, that's what it's all about. You Know Peter you'd mentioned your dealings with the players and one of the things that I heard about you that you're that I thought was very interesting. was you know you're not afraid to challenge players you're not afraid to be honest with players but one thing you take pains to do is is not to do it in. Front of other players and some of your guys in Nashville joke that whenever a player was called away from the group, they would kind of Oh that guys in trouble. But they respected the fact that you wouldn't that. You'd either do it outside the dressing room or in your office nobody saw that's your way. You know I've kind of lived on the motto. If you can imagine trying to be a coach, right, you've got to walk on the fence and I think there's Times where you've gotta jump down to one side. Of the fence and you've got, you've got a kick some tale a little bit but you can't stay down there and do that because it just doesn't work over the long periods. So you get back up on the fence and you walk a little bit But then there's certainly the opportunities to be compassionate and get to know your players and to care about them and care about their families, and so you can get down on the other side of the fence and you can walk a little bit but I don't think. You WanNa stay there too long either. So you better get back up on the and keep walking and I've gone to live by that mantra my whole life with regard to coaching and it served me well, and you know there's times when I lose it a little bit inside of a locker room as well. I'm frustrated and I'm that teams frustrated and I may snap but I think when it comes to dealing with players, I would always rather keep it between me and the player I I try to be honest I. Try to be truthful I never it's never delivered with sarcasm, but it is honest and it's my opinion of what I think and so I don't feel like oftentimes bring it to the media or putting it out in the media or even putting it in front of their teammates is the way to go. So I try to while it's honest and sometimes might not be what you WanNa hear it's always private and it's between me and them for the most part what the hardest thing you've ever had to tell a player. You know I hate telling players at the have to go down to the minors. You know what I mean like I played in the minors I only played twelve games for the New York Rangers show and nobody ever told me I made the team. I take it come and as a minor league player and having been been sent down at least ten times I always make sure that I take the time and talk to the players because. Everybody's if you think about it, everybody's trying to make the National Hockey League, and so there are just some conversations especially with high picks and players that are the last cuts that probably like four or five years into their career in viewing it as a pivotal year in a pivotal moment for me those conversations are always tough when I never take them lightly and I make sure that you know I deliver them and talk to the players the best I can, and I've often said I understand what you're going through and when I say that I say as a truth. You mentioned family Peter and someone said to me that one thing you will do before next season whenever that is is you will meet or discuss with the capitals players like their wives or their partners or whatever like you involve the families and you ask them for their concerns and you explain to. Them like how they can help their partners, become better players and I was really interested in that like how do you do that? What's your thinking there? You know for me it's not just about the spouses or just about the children or or the moms and dads come into town sometimes but. Know it's more about the staff as well. It's more about the the people that work inside the as far as the media go that are with the predators and the guys who are on the inside that are part of our organization I. Guess My thought Theory is the the more people that feel like that they're invested in the cause and needed in the cause because in the end they are the more you. Can Get out of people and so that's an important I think it's an important part everybody everybody wants to feel important and wanted and needed, and so I guess it goes down that road that they are important if you think about the spouses like I know how important my wife is to me there's many a nights where I come home where she probably she probably would rather be in a different state than. than the half the spend the night with me. But yet I'll wake up the same way and I'll be you know drinking my coffee at six in the morning and she'll she'll make sure that she reminds me that they don't all is on you today. So don't drag the to- Drake your sour puss to the face like go change something and go do something it makes you realize that the spouses. Actually spend more time with the players have a heavier hand on their their daily disposition and how they come to the rank and where they are at in their life, and so I don't think you should ever take it for granted that it's a truly a team sport a truly as a family don't take those things for granted make sure you work on them. Peter I'd like to bring up the topic of while the every coach's favorite topic, and that's goaltenders and I'm I'm very curious how you handled one situation specifically in Nashville with Pekka Rene. So you go to Nashville and Pecker in as a star, one of the elite goaltenders in the NHL and he's used to high volume. He's used to a lot of shots get into the game and get into the rhythm and you get there and one of the first things you do with Nashville is you do a really incredible job to like all of a sudden shots against go way down and Pekka Karenni sort of struggles through that he's used to. Feeling the PUCK and getting used to the PUCK and getting into the game that way. But now he's going long stretches without seeing a shot. How do you manage a situation like that? It's really tough I'd I think he does recently soul he such an athlete like such a competitor in such an athlete and loves being in the net and stop and shots and making saves and and you're right. There are some times that that happened. The shots against were down for the five full years were there. We're the lowest goals against team in in the League, and I, do think a lot of that had to do with. The players in front of him and and the volume not being as heavy to shots down the attempts being down. So we were pretty good team defensively, but we were always trying to push the pace offense as well, and if you're in the offensive zone in your goal is not taking shots and I think Paxton an unbelievable job in the time that I reserve the success that we had in Nashville in the opportunities that we had to win the presidents trophy and two to play for the on the one year division championships, none of that. Would have been possible if he wasn't such a terrific goalie and if he wasn't such a terrific player while it could be right that things were down. I. Still Think he was awesome. He won the Vezina he was offered he proved to be one of the elite in the League and what was just a great opportunity to work with such a a good goalie like that. But you know as a coach, he can't just sit there and say listen we gotta let them in and take some shots here to either goalie in the game either so. He handled everything. Well, I'm sure there were times where I'll goalies maybe there are times where they had a little bit more action and and they could feel the puck so that they get into the game a little bit more sometimes those things out of my control as a coach. Let me follow up with one more national. Interviews Washington now but one more question about Nashville that Anaheim series on route to the Stanley Cup final for the pressure from a viewers point of view that was a beautiful series high-skill fast pace and man that was violence. Yeah. Like that was rough violent hockey. What was what was it like from your point of view Peter Yeah that's what I was talking about like knowing your opponent and how you had to play the game and I mentioned in the West in having to play the likes of the Saint Louis is in the Anaheim's really. For most of my time of being in the Western, conference, Anaheim was a really tough opponent I. Think maybe it just slipped a little bit at the end but you knew that you had to play a physical game and I don't think that we were built from such physicality but we could play that way. I don't think that we were built with pure speed, but we could play that way if we had to. So we just had to figure out our opponent and figure out how we're going to be able to walk out with points are. Walkout with winds that playoff series was awesome and you gotta give Anaheim a lot of credit for the way that they've played. They've got guys that have been on that team for a long time that are winners and competitors they were You think about what they were able to do as far as win in their division for so many years and getting the opportunity to play in conference finals for championships and stuff like that. There were terrific team in that series ended up being awesome for us. It was awesome because you know at the. End of it I think we were down three big players going back into it was a game six, game five or game six, maybe game five back in Anaheim. We were missing three big players and we're able to to get a really gutsy win and get back home and went in our building which pushed us onto the final show. Certainly, a series of I'll remember for both teams really really given their all and just proud of our guys that were able to overcome such a really an established team in an a really good hockey team. One of the reasons The Washington made the coaching Change Peters felt the group had lost their edge or whatever it is that made them a champion how do you get it back? What are you have to do to help them get it back listen this team I thought todd did a good job in there like it's difficult I'm coming speaking from experience some walking in those shoes it's difficult to win the Stanley Cup. Every year there's there's ups and downs that go with it and The change was made for me as a new coach going in there I'm really excited about the opportunity always am going into a new team. I feel like you know with the coach going into a new team in in what you believe in in what you're really passionate about it's a clean slate for the players. It's a clean slate for me it's a new voice and to. A team that's been to have been successful. It's not it's not like you have to go in and build this from nothing from no success or very little success. Oh, that's what's exciting for me to go in there and try and just add a layer not reinvent the wheel but somehow Atta layer in pushing, motivate and get these guys to climb the ladder just a little bit higher. Expect this team to look pretty much similar to what I mean. There's always going to be a little bit of tinkering every season from every general manager. But but basically from what you've been led to believe is what we've seen the past couple of seasons is going to be the Washington capitals next year. I can't see getting too far off but if I'm being one hundred percent on us like I just work through things with Brian, we talked and touched on the team in the personnel for just a little bit and we talked about a couple of different things. But I'm sure as I get more into this job and have more conversations with Brian because things have really just kind of. There's just been a lot going on in the last couple days. Obviously, I'm sure it's going to switch to you more of the hockey and more of the team and what we need to do. So we have a better answer for that. Maybe you know a month from now down the road once I have some conversations and get into it a little bit more. Have you spoken to many players yet Peter? So again, just taking the job yesterday I reached out to the coaches Bhai tax just to let them know that I would be in touch and they all responded again it's just been real busy the one call that I wanted to just to make first and to talk to first before anybody else was Alex in and was able to do that just had a great conversation with him this morning for about thirty minutes. So I'm just starting to to get into that and get. Through the the media you know most of it, lot of it is just the interviews that you do I think early on here but I am trying to let the people know that I'm going to be contacted them soon, and now that I've talked to Alex Oh look to open that up even more with the players I would think you know by the end of the month here I would hopefully talked to everybody in the organization tell us something interesting about your conversation with Ovechkin. I think what's was great about it is that we? Coached against them so long and he's probably played against the teams that I've coached for so long it was almost like finally get to work together and that was pretty awesome. So he was real easy to talk to you know he wants to disappointed about not going further in the playoffs and wants to get back and and do what he did a couple of years ago, and it was just a real good conversation real easy conversations show on really looking forward to working with them. You've never coached anyone like Alex Ovechkin have you ever coached anyone like Tom Wilson? was probably got Hartnell goes along those lines MMA little bit. You Know Artsy was a twenty goals score and heart see was a he was a teammates guy. You know he was the guy that you wanted in your room and you wanted on your bench hurts he would fight for anybody on his team. You know if it didn't look right to him if it didn't smell right for him he was going to take care of it. Probably my her so many good things about Wilson. I can't wait to work with them. Heart see was the same way he was a guy that everybody loved on the team and and just an incredible teammates. So maybe a little bit of that one of my favorite players of all time, not quite the talent but one of my favorite players of all time was Aaron down back in. Providence. Funny Guy. He was awesome and He would hit and he would fight and he was he was just a ball of energy inside that room and we ended up winning a championship and doing great things in providence and he was just a huge was on my third line check in line with Joel Perk Marquee Matthew and they were really really tough to play again. So I, think when you get players like that, you just absolutely love having on your team and I'm a another guy that I'm really excited to work with. It's always a good day when you get the name Aaron Downey by the way on. Pan downy. Yeah. Who isn't who was from a potato farming family in Shelburne Ontario? It's. All Day Long Aaron Downey go ahead. Just a couple more for me Peter. Number. One I asked somebody tell me because you. You keep this side of the personality kind away from the media but I've heard you've got a great sense of humor. I asked someone tell me a really funny Peter Laviola story and they said Laurie that he tells that makes everybody. Laugh is your son's tryout for an elite team in north. Carolina what is that story? You know I get on the radius morning with Some guys from Washington and they were asking about a funny story or what kind of a coach I was apparent in I. Said Not good like now I'm not good I'm a much a much better as a professional coach I am coach my parents and my kids will attest to that but So I'll tell you the story we were going in for a tryout and Carolina. I think my son may be was eleven years old and we were out of the playoffs might have been the first year there I'm not sure and. So he needed to go and try out for the travel teams and we had no idea when those trials run a be in the season it ended and we're going to go on a family cruise for like four days wasn't anything big but we had already booked it, and if you ever try to get your money out of a cruise, if you ever tried to cancel, you realize that that's pretty much impossible once that money gets into a cruise line, it's locked in a vault and you basically need a death certificate to get it back. And so Monday book the try out the same time as the crews, and so I had to go about the process of writing a letter to the organisers the Carolina Hurricanes Organization San you know Mrs Peter Lobby let my son won't be there and. Then by doing that, they would hold a spot to anybody. They would hold a spot and you would go to the double eight this for the triple eighteen you go to the AA team and you would try out and so there was nine nine kids trying the team for the AA team in ninety eight were trying out. For Aa in one was gonNA make the AAA out of this trial and so I'm driving in my son to the rank and I'm like listen to you know what I did here do you understand what's happening urine AA tryout? They're holding one spot on the AAA team and one kid at a ninety nine is going to move on in the rest of the ninety eight are going to trial for double a. and then single and going from there said, you understand that like I wrote the letter and Hell. Listen when you get out there, do something like make some noise like score some goals I said, they always noticed people who score goals and tryouts. So bring the to the net I. got it that I got it. So he went for the try out on Friday night and He gets back in the car and his team won the scrimmage three to one and he scored two goals and he was so proud getting in the car and I looked at him and I said, what are you doing out there? As as all good parents is all good parents doing like, what are you doing out there and he said what and I said, well, you just keep getting the puck and thrown into the middle of the ice. You don't take any strikes with like try taking some strides with it, and then once you get going, pass it to the middle or drive the defenseman widened score goal. All right that I. got it. I got it. We drive back Saturday night for the second part of the tryout and I give it to him again in the car and said You understand what I'm saying about moving your feet and driving wide take the defense of the net like take it to. Dad I got it I got it. So he scrimmages that night and they ended up winning the game. I think it was four to three and he had a goal into assist and so he gets in the car and he's kind of proud again. But maybe not quite as confident and he looked at me and I said to him I still what are you doing out there? I said every time. I, just bad parenting again one oh one and so he ends up getting a callback for Sunday morning. They dropped it down to thirty kids and they were GONNA scrimmage the two teams against each other and so here, I am I'm in the locker room and you got you know at that age, you gotta go in and help your kids get dressed and make sure skates tightened up tight whatever we're A. Little bit late to be honest with you, and so there's rooms packed and there's sixteen kids in there and there's fifteen parents and and then Peter and I walk in and we we wedge into a spot and it's quiet like it's really quiet really tents. There's only once this once per kid going out of the thirty two, there's one kid going triple a. the rest are going to stay compete for double A. You could hear a pin drop in there and We're tightening skates and my son I'm bent over I'm tightening up his skates and the lady sitting right next to me and she said Oh you're Peter and he said my son's been your sentiment for the last two games and Peter looked at that mom and said, my dad told me not to pass that puck to your son anymore. And I'm in here I have no choice. But to lie at this point, you know what I mean I looked at lady and I said I did not say that and he looks at me and he goes yes, you did you said it every day in the car and I. It was just A. I think everybody heard it and it was just one of those moments when you're okay, you just completely failed as a parent. You know what? Though hang on Peter, I'm the parent of two minor hockey players. You talk players at I. Know that exact I'm laughing hysterically inside as I hear this. Horrible is parents. It's not like I'm crazy at the Games. It's not like I lose my mind at the Games and I'm a yeller. I'm very quiet my wife and I, we never say anything to the coach if things don't go well or whatever we're just we move in, we move out and whatever happens happens. But when it comes to dealing with your kids, it's like you lose all sight in perspective of what's right and wrong in the world and anyway my son me he's funny he tells the story too and he remembers it but you know it worked out fine. He ended up making the Tripoli team so it all worked out good. My last question for you Peter is I wanna go back. It's nine, hundred, ninety seven. You've just retired as a player with the Providence. Bruins and you're going to the wheeling. Naylor's is the head coach and the H. L. Yeah. It's been twenty two years. What do you think? By I think back of how lucky I am. I went to. Westfield State College and Played Division three hockey and I think about it. I'm fifty five years old and I'm still involved at the game at a professional level I. Wake up every day and if myself how lucky in my because it's a great sport and here I am still involved in. So I guess I'm fortunate blasting and I'm thankful I think back to that first trip to wheeling with my with my wife she was pregnant and we packed up we rented the u-haul ourselves. We packed it up. We had a dog, the three of US drove it the wheeling. West Virginia. We didn't even know where wheeling was. We had to get out a map and like look on the map and say, okay, we're going here that first year was awesome. I mean I loved it. The ownership wheeling was brand new. They hired me as their brand new coach and I was a rookie didn't know anything and when you're at that level, you get to make the trades you got to book the travel you get to decide the hotels had some help along the way but you really make an all the decisions, its head coach and director of hockey operations and The year started you know five hundred or just over five hundred by the second half of the year that team was just flying and there was a real big belief in that family that you were talking about and we felt like we couldn't be beaten. We ended up losing in the conference finals to John a team in Hampton roads. They were a real tough team to play against and they went on dope they went on to. Win The cup that year but just an incredible experience starting all the way back then and to be here now, in the chance to coach Washington capitals, there's too many great stories in too many great memories between the start of that to where I am today. So again, I think more than anything I. Just think I'm fortunate to be here in blessed to be here in grateful to have the now have the chance to be the. Coach of the Washington Capitals Listen. This has been such a delight catching up with you. We wish you nothing but success and I wanNA leave you with with one story because as I'm hearing this story about your son reminded of a of a story old NHL official. This is all right around the time of Bill. Chadwick. The Big Guy's name was was Mickey Ion and what he used to do when he had a rookie linesmen. With them is he call everyone to center ice and he'd say look rookie I want you to understand one thing and he would hold up the game puck and he'd say you know in about two minutes I'm GonNa drop this thing and when I do the three of us become the only sane people in this arena, all I have to do is drop this little black thing that's all I can think of that is so true. That is so true man. We'll leave you on that one. Listen. Thanks so much for this best of luck with the Washington capitals and enjoy the rest of whatever remains of your offseason. Thanks so much for stopping by. We'll do guys have a great day. That was a lot of fun with Peter Lavi Latte you WanNa, put a sort of a bow around this one. What are you looking for with with Lavi Latte in the caps what's the thinking going on here for Brian McClellan I think the thing that the capitals felt wise Berkovsky went somewhere else did really well in Colorado. Stevenson went somewhere else did really well in Vegas. And I think that one of the things they just felt was we have to make sure that we don't lose guys. Who Find Better fit somewhere else we have to stop that. And you know if you take a look at Laviola teams, there's a lot of guys who find spots under him like you look at Nashville you all those guys who found spots that year they went to the Stanley Cup final. Yeah. Guys like Arvidsson who broke out under him I think that's what they're looking for is a guy who can maximize their roster and He involves defensemen in the attack. His defenseman do get points like look at Nashville guys and I know they felt their group last year didn't mix very well, and so I think they're going to ask him to try to fix that or change that. One thing Peter Laviola for stopping by and The Washington capitals for making him a little alright. Taken us out. Ron. Hawkins. Most of the low well songwriter lead vocalist lowest like during my. Club going days in the nineties where I would go see live music all the time there are. Non Collared Shirts. Like did you wear those folk caller shirts? No I never wore the I I would always honestly, I would always just wear t shirts, T. shirts and a Hoodie in jeans that was like it was kind of like a hipster doofus wearing those fake caller shirts dude man had the goatee ahead the long hair you would have hated me I hated me as I look back now like there was a whole lot of. Like. Oh Jeez Merrick you again going on I wouldn't have hated you. I. Would've just like since you went to qualify would've just treated you as inferior being well, that's just thank you would have had disdain because you have that smug Western, perspective about you like your fed a steady diet of money salad and uncut insolence, your entire life like all Grad money's Sal I gotta figure out what's the proper dressing for that? So I used to go see shows all the time and there are a few staples like you. I never missed like reestablished my favorite band of all time. Those bathroom street shows horseshoe like all of those were all magical shows the Bourbon Tabernacle, choir always went out of our way to see I loved Kate Fenner, and Chris Brownlie great grape, and there are other bands mom and morganthaler would come in from Montreal never miss though shows Bran van would come in from Montreal. Never missed those shows and lowest of the low over naked ladies. Of course, you never miss their shows. Diggers Sky Diggers. Fantastic blue. Rodeo although there west again, spirit of the week all these great bands and lowest of the low we're one of the coolest out of all of them like those bands are probably seen the Rio's the most thing of seeing them more than anyone in my concert going career. But I, think lowest of the low might be number two or number three, just such a great live act and great listen Shakespeare my butt is still one of my favorite albums. I don't know really what to add, but I love seeing all these bands to bring back such fantastic memories. Awesome. All right. So here's Ron Hawkins and the do good assassins baby fell hard. His self produced album to forty six by the way Elliott, recorded on a four track cassette recorder. Enjoy Ron. Hawkins says we thank you for listening to another edition thirty one thoughts the podcast. Stars and the House. St. Kinney shoes. Hood. WHO The. Search. So much to come home. Hearts. Heart the heart Lillo. Bray. A Jan.. Johnson. A. Public. Place. Lack of Koch in. This bleeds. A. Schwab.

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - (04-08-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - (04-08-19)

"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week long. March man's still here did your bracket bust. Don't worry. Go to bet decide dot com where you can watch all the madness. And even bet all the games until the final. Whistle bet. Gsi has the fastest payout in the industry. Simply play win and get paid. Try live betting bet the Asai where you could bet on the games from start to finish. That's every play and every minute down to the last whistle. So what are you waiting for go to bet the aside dot com and use promo code D are men as new members get one hundred percent bonus match. So are you ready for some extra cash this March? Remember, it's only a game until you bet it abet Assad. Broadcasting from our New York City Mercedes studio look at these guns. They have nothing going on in their lives this. It's Dan Patrick quite a lower on this Monday. Dan in the danettes, Dan Patrick show. We're live in New York City this week new man cave under construction and still looking like April nineteenth. That's my target date to unveil the brand new man Cape. You can watch the program if you like on audience channel two thirty nine direct TV the B. Our live folks were doing that were streaming free all UEFA Champions League quarterfinal matches their streaming live on Biard live as well. So just some things to keep an eye on here with our new TV partners be our live dot com you'd like get in touch with the program you can Donald Trump eight seven seven three DP show Twitter handle with DP show. And it is a best and worst Monday where you can dial us up tell us what you saw that you liked and you didn't like we have an update. Mclovin on the celebrity bracket challenge. Yeah. My subway comes down to two and they're both in this room. You've versus paulie Benton, if for genuine wins paulie wins. And if Texas Tech wins you win even though you didn't have Texas Tech. You're currently leading the standings. And Nah, I had Virginia. Michigan state. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And then I found out that we have a gold subway card that we're giving out though. It's on. Yeah. So I don't know if it's like a lifetime of subway sandwiches. But yeah, I just I heard from some way they said time wants a gold card. They sent me a gold card. You can see it right there. One shining foot long. And so that's that's what we're playing for your. I think we've completely under appreciating right now. The fact that Paul did the whole I'm just gonna take Virginia to win it thing, and it's paying off. Yeah. Who's the guy we had on a guy from the Wall Street Journal, and he said, you should take the strategy should be take Virginia to win at all. Because everybody's gonna take Duke or Kentucky North Carolina and very few people take Virginia after what happened last year. And you know, that's the logic. Mario had we had Virginia and then had to pick. I didn't wanna pick Duke and pick Michigan state. And so Michigan state not getting there. And you know, what Michigan state was not better than Texas Tech. Texas Tech was far better too. And of course, you had the painful ending for Auburn. We have Bruce Pearl on in the first hour, and you know, here's a guy who is very educated when it comes to Xs and os in basketball. All so I said to him you got this time out, you know, Virginia is going to run a play. What play? Did you think for Jinya would run? This is when Kyle guy got fouled on the three pointer. Oh, my gosh up. Dan, I took an easel the board. And I drew a line from the inbound passer to that corner to that quarter. And it wasn't just one line is back and forth back and forth back and forth. This is where the ball's going. So I took Austin Wylie who is my biggest player by longest Winston. And I put him on the ball but angle to that corner. But because of the way the florist built and there's much of a room on the sidelines. The inbound passer was ever stepped back further and actually have a passing lane who that corner. How painful is that he knew where it was going back and forth. I know. And but you can't drift into the shooter. You can contest the shot, but you can't be moving into the body kind of through his kids under the bus there, though. Hey, guys, I told you what was going to happen? Yeah. But you magin your coaching you're going. Okay. This is where it's going. Kyle guy in the corner. It's a game ACLU Kyle guy in the corner with the game on the line. And you all of a sudden. Messed it up the club. I'm sick of this foul with five seconds left. Same same ending as Purdue Auburn and Tennessee Purdue. Now, I got a call that. I've never I've taken intentionally fouling lower like, especially because it's obvious. Anybody can get the ball of the corner and get a three point shot. We how many times we have to see this before stop doing it. Yup. And of course, there was the double dribble that they did miss, but even Bruce Pearl mister he said, I I was worried about other things I didn't even look at it didn't even think of it. But you know, where the ball's going, and you still couldn't stop them. So it's Virginia favored by one tonight against Texas Tech, y'all can you guys think in recent history past fifteen twenty years of a more painful loss and other bigger losses? But where a team a fan base thought we just one because when guys the shot for a second or two before you hear that whistle. We won like the Cleveland Indians thing up three one on the cubs. Okay. But there wasn't a moment in that game where they won the world. Aries? No, no rug pulled kick six. Yes. Yes. Auburn Auburn, Alabama the great one. Yeah. Mclovin. Seattle's Malcolm Butler interception. Oh point taken while those all three of those same kind of har-. No that one I still like till my dying day on never forget that feeling. I'm underneath the goalpost. I'm going to hand out the trophy. I think Russell Wilson Pete Carroll. Even the be thinking of questions for Seattle. And I wonder if poll Ellen's going to be there. So you start to think you start to formulate, and I'm thinking beast is gonna come right towards me. He's gonna score touchdown. And all of a sudden, I'm I'm watching the beast. I'm watching marshawn Lynch, I'm not watching Russell Wilson. Because I'm thinking all I'm gonna do is watch him handed on and all of a sudden, I go. No. And I don't know. Why said no. But there's a pig. After that somebody took of me on that play. They were taking the picture me. They're taking pictures of play. I made it seem like, oh, well, somebody taking a picture. Let's get din petrous reaction to this place. Yeah. On the biggest play of the game. One of the biggest place in NFL history. Let's see how Jan reacts to this. And you just see me like this wide eyed wonderment of why are you throw? You can throw the ball. Not in the middle of the field to the side. Yeah. But I swear I'm watching marshawn Lynch, and I think he's probably looking at me going. Yeah. Should have gotten the damn ball. Yes. Steve. There's this great video of there's all of these Seahawks fans at a Super Bowl party. And they're watching the plane. You know, how people will set up a camera or a cellphone right in front of the TV. So everybody's looking right at the camera, and they're all Channing feast mood fees. Beast peace, and then he'll go what? No, it's so they went right? Everybody thought that he was getting the ball and then. Yeah nuts. But the the C the reaction of these people, and they see marshawn doesn't get the ball. While the Miami Ohio State national title game we were on the sidelines. We are on Ohio State sideline. And we were at the other end. And then there was pass interference cold in the corner on Miami. The Miami players were taking out t shirts that said national championship. So the play is is right in front of us. And then you don't realize there's pass interfere. So the the Miami people in the sidelines are taken out t shirts, and all of a sudden, you're going wait what happened and that was the feeling I had with Virginia against Auburn. I'm going, wait. Was that a whistle. In fact, let let's play that. And just listen for the whistle because it sort sorta gets lost. But the whistle happens before the ball gets to the rim. But imagine you're in a bar. And you can't hear the whistle. Jerome slaps the basketball looking hearing fines guy in the left corner. Four three. Tigers. Was there? A foul. A. Zeros? But the shooter Bruce, Pearl is at half forty can't believe it. That's John Thompson. And that's my favorite part of that. Because here's a coach understanding. You know, better than any of us. Oh my God. That that's how it ends for you. Now, you had the call. You had Kyle guy go to the free throw line. He's still gotta make three free throws. I mean, two at the most. But he's you know, he's got a chance to send it into overtime. And he makes all three. I mean, just dagger dagger timeout dagger. Yep. Oh, you could see on Twitter. No fence. Sorry, our fans. But if you look Auburn span celebrates you'll see like by tumors corners, the fans in the bars soon as they saw the shot miss. They high tail it to be I one at the corners the role the the trees, and then the alternate it calms down then there's a bar scene. And there's these opera fans going desert, and then they come down come down. And it's tough the whistle. And I had no problem with the call. Here's the other thing. If you look at the double dribble, this is what would happen. Let's say Kyle guy that he's not he's not found. It's not called. We would then be because Virginia would have lost. And then it would be. Yeah. But they had the double dribble. So you know, they they deserve to lose. That's like a make good triple. They didn't call something. Yeah. But, but it's I don't think that was a difficult call to make. I mean, you might say because of the timeframe of it. But if you look at the call if I if I extract that and say that happened in the first half. There's no doubt about it. Because he he drifts in you want to as a defender if I can't get your shot and contestant I want you to be uncomfortable before you release the ball. That's what happens, and that's what he was doing. He drifted into him to make him a little bit uncomfortable. And it was the right call. Yeah. Mclovin. I don't think you see that foul early and games defenders aren't going to get up on a guy fading away in the corner of the court. They're gonna let him shoot. Probably it's a hard shot late in the game. You gotta stay away early in the game. I'm on, you know, but I don't think you're going to run into him like that. Because you're going like that was off balance. Like, you know, I don't think you see that game call I'm assuming that that he accidentally ran into him. I I don't think that was the design. But sometimes when you can't get there in time to put your hand up. Yeah. You just I want you to be uncomfortable. I want you to think about where you come down. But I don't think that they there are a lot of three point fouls early in causing it. I don't remember seeing that capital. I feel like guys give him a little. I mean you. That's not a shot. You worried about a fall away in the very back corner of I don't think didn't need to claim. So I give them credit for calling it in the moment. So yeah. Yeah. No. I totally agree. They they would call. It was the right? Call early in the game too late in the game. Yeah. But I don't think that usually you see I don't think people run into three point shooters that often it's because they are smarter. Let me see Scott and Texas joins us today. Best and worst of the weekend. We will give you hours coming up a little bit. Hi, scott. What do you have for me today? How you Danja mornings Gwinnett. So I'm in Lubbock, Texas, six four and a quarter. Congratulations. Thank you, especially the weekend is my red writers made Michigan state and tonight, they're playing for national championship. Really proud for proud about that. Where's the weekend is the disappointment of the tech students? They rioted after the game by burned a car, they acted like idiots, and I was hoping they weren't gonna be like some of the fans and some of the larger cities not to mention any names, Detroit Cleveland that they acted like a bunch of idiots, and and really really don't like what they did. So I'm hoping there's a greater police presence around the campus tonight, and that should take win the national championship that it's it's a lot better atmosphere around town. All right. Thank you, Scott. Yeah. I always wondered that when you win. And you do something stupid like when you lose. I understand you're frustrated. But when you win, and you start torching things just you know, what? Put them in a police car and send them down there and let mom and dad come and get. But I I don't understand. Zack in Texas. Hi zack. First time caller six to one ninety five don't really have a early best for the weekend. Do have the worst Antonio Brown. Dogging doodoo Smith soocer on Twitter. Think ABC's pretty much ruined is like it's the in Pittsburgh and hope he has a terrible year. Thanks, all right. Thanks. You know? This is what happened in Tonio Brown. Who's on Twitter? He calls out juju Smith Schuster to say that the emotional boy fumbled away our playoffs. Meanwhile, this is the guy who didn't show up for you know, walk through that suspended for a game. And then he's calling out juju Smith Schuster and by all accounts, juju Smith Schuster had nothing, but great things to say friend Tonio Brown. So I I don't know where in Tonio Brown is. I mean, great you got out you wanted to get out. Everybody knew this was about money, and you, you know, your your agent played it. Well, and you found the raiders who are willing to take you. You're wonderful talent. But, but you know, you gotta stop with this begging for attention. Antonio Brown when he's been on the show, I think twice in person at the Super Bowl manage he magnetic. I loved him. I thought he was so much fun and you rooted for him, and then he'll do things where you go. And you're not a good person. What did you juice misuse ter- due to you? You know, he he looked up to you. And then you're gonna call him out like that. It's just you know. It's not mature it just it was sad. It was really sad to see because you're like, dude, let it go. You got out of Pittsburgh. You wanted guaranteed money. You got your money now shut up and put up put up good numbers there. But stop leave Pittsburgh in more ways than one literally figuratively. You're done with them and not fair to juju Smith, you have a beef with Ben Rothlisberger. Go ahead. You guys can have added juju Smith Schuster looked up to you, dude. Yes. Because you're not the twenty eighteen Steelers MVP that that somehow you're still getting hurt by that. I know look what I really appreciated jujubes response saying like, you know, I never showed that guy anything, but love and respect this whole time in that his ego is just out of control. Yeah. It's crazy ever said to read there. All right. We'll take a break. Paul Pierce says he had a better career than Dwayne Wade. You'll hear what he had to say. We'll try to put that in context here. But you'll hear that also UCLA may get a coach and a coach who was in the NCAA tournament have that for you coming up as well seventeen after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick show. Everybody's got it to do this. 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And now it looks like UCLA zeroing in on Tennessee head coach Rick Barnes. So they have to have a buy out here. And apparently, they didn't wanna pay an eight million dollar buyout to Jamie Dixon, but they're willing to pay a buy out of five million dollars for Rick born. So the difference between hiring Rick Barnes or Jamie, Dixon is three million dollars. Yes, paulie, does the FBI director at UCLA say that was our guy the whole time. I never ever they hire. Our number one guy. I always love those press conferences guy will be the eleventh candidate. He's the guy. We're looking for all this time. We're just looking for the right fit. And we got him. Go to Rocco dot com for all the parts your car will ever need. Rocco dot com. Family business. Founded by Alaw to motive engine nears in one thousand nine hundred ninety two goals in mind. I if people direct access to all the parts information hidden in the computers. 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Thank you for the phone call, Steve, you know, we're also talking about really devastating losses. And you know, we we were recounting some of these you know, you had the chiefs against the patriots with deformed offsides because he's not off sides than they have the interception. And then you have the saints. You also have the saints Minnesota Vikings. I know. I know I know which one is more devastating now wants to go to the Super Bowl. So that would that would probably bump that up a couple of notches. But the way they lost to Minnesota in Minnesota, Stefan, digs the ole tackle. Yeah. Yeah. Eight didn't wanna get you don't want to interfere with it. So he did exactly that mission accomplished. He didn't interfere with it is it is it possible to not lose the game in that. Like, it's not your fault. Somebody just played better than you. Does that make sense? Like, sometimes you get beat you don't lose. Yeah. Yeah. Does that? Well, we'll normally that's a question. That's ask on these shows on Monday did somebody win or did somebody lewd out right in the game to somebody win the game. Yeah. You know, Auburn did they lose the game. Yeah. Because they don't have to foul in that situation. And it may be guy makes it if you don't found, and you lose that way. And they had to go on a twelve Ron or whatever it was. Yeah. Fritzy when the ball goes through Bucknor's legs that would be a losing the game, not the other team guess playing. Yeah. But recent recent history. Yes, mclovin. Yeah. He's going to say, hey, look at any great play. We always I over time like the immaculate reception. We never think about how devastating that was for the raiders. It's become about the Steelers. So. And how Mary and by all probability, the raiders should have won that game because you know, Terry Bradshaw. Scrambling out of the pocket really just heaves it up there. And it goes back to a story that Tony Dungy told me when Tony was with the Steelers. He said the one thing that Franco Harris did whether he was in the player, not he ran all the way to the other end. So if you gave him the football, he didn't just run until you know, Chuck knoll would blow the whistle Franko always ran out every single play. And a Franco doesn't run out that play and doesn't happen because you have the ricochet you you have the hit on friendship Ukwa, and then Franko with the presence of mind. I still think the greatest moment of that play is the camerawork somebody trained to camera on Franco Harris in that moment to see that he picked it up off the turf right up off the turf. Yeah. Mclovin. I googled most devastating losses in NFL history. The number one was twenty eight three. Halftime falcons and never too by the way was the David Tyree catch for the perfect. But you still had you still stop them before plexiglass bursts or the touch on David Tyree. Made a great catch that didn't win the game. So there's a difference in that. All right best and worst of the weekend. Mr. final form self the golden phone award winner for twenty nineteen. Let's say Hello to Todd Fritz? Yeah. And no he did not sleep in that shirt. Not you didn't like it. Yes. The weekend. Watching heat of go down to the final shot Friday night. The you wait almost hitting a game winning buzzer beater weight and call Anthony towns, then exchange jerseys after the game. I thought that was a pretty cool moment worst of the weekend. Anyway. Anyway. Heap timber wolves best of the weekend. It was I didn't want to do. I didn't want to do an obvious final four with your campus. I know, but I was at the game Friday night into Wayne weight. And we wanted his last games ever could have won the game with a three right at the buzzer. And it just trickled out and it didn't happen. It did not specify. Your best or the weekends best that it went down to the last shot like that. Or that's way. Wait an opportunity. It would have been best or if he would actually. My best. I wanna thank the timber wolves. Because they came through big time on Friday, fritzy up with tickets, but they brought in jerseys and gear the those prince jerseys. I I said I gotta have one of those for the man cave. That's a gorgeous jersey fake. What's your worst? Or almost worst of the weekend. Here's the watching over and come back on Sunday night down fifty seven forty seven two. Final minutes at a two point lead only to lose dramatic contrast pay the club investment worse for the weekend. My best, and I'm going to keep doing them as best until they're out of first place habit. Those Phillies baby took two out of three from the twins. You know, who's right behind though, the pesky Mets what's going on with. I see. I I run into a baseball guy. And he goes, he's a longtime baseball guy. He says, hey, you know, who's gonna be your Brooklyn nets of baseball. And I go no, the New York Mets are going to be the Brooklyn nets. They're going to make the playoffs. My nets made the playoffs yesterday. But. So keep an eye on the New York Mets being the Brooklyn. Nets of the major league baseball season continue mclovin on my worse is I just like to see one of these games. Not on a call. Not that it was the wrong. Call can we have like one shining moment like an actual shot to to win one of these nice. Big loving paulie vis the week. I've all good. Matt Mooney the guard for Texas Tech four of eight from three carry their offense. The entire game. Not a household name twenty two points for a Moonie could haircut. It looks pretty good there. And my second best of the weekend. Was this just came in on my desk? I got a box from the national bookers association of America. Dan there who incidentally, they're located in southern Manhattan, just blocks away from our man cave here. And this is just a loner. But this is the golden. This is one of one what is the one? On a blackberry. It's a phony way Todd is a phony it's not four times. But this is the trophy that will be presented later this year to the actual winner. If okay. So the best Booker in the sports business, I really actually thing. Yes. This the the it is now the national radio Saito phony booking association of America in America is has to be a man we are adding heard for them. What's evident of business at thirty years sold done lifetime achievement award. Perhaps you never know it existed, we will be handing out the phonies. And so be golden phone goes to the best Booker. I have to return later today. It's just they wanted to show off their wares before the award ceremony later this year. And then your name will be engraved on there. It's actually one phone that they pass around generation after generation it's sort of like the Stanley Cup. You get your name on it. But then it goes to the next team after that. Oh, the phony oca- they don't get to keep it a guy. Yes politician. This is a real award, Dan and a paint coming off on my hands from being painted spray painted moments ago that don't let that throw you off. So the phonies. That's Todd you got a great chance this year. You got Johnny van. I'm sorry. John Menzel last hour. Here's a poll question. I'm putting myself in the middle of would you rather win the golden phone or that the Dan Patrick show wins the sports EMMY, how selfish would I be I'm recognized as well as a year coordinator, one is one is a real war ended up I'm playing along as if that maybe maybe that is what you're not a talent coordinator is it possible to win a golden phone end and any in the same year. It has been done before that Todd. You could be the first unprecedented. That's pretty big huge. But once again one is an actual. Yeah. One is the real ward. What if it was real what if you could be singled out? We don't win. The sports is a team. If you're the. Coordinator down coordinator of the year. Put under a lie detector because I would say I would want the group to the Dan Patrick show ward, you're lying. I'm definitely not. Actually, you would like to be the Booker of the not at the expense of show winnings. The sports EMMY next month that that is not the senior talent coordinator, executive senior town Cornyn fritzy's titled changes more than anybody else's far because he went from just being a Booker to then like, he's a coordinating producer executive producer vice presidents how. And then he was quoted in the New York Post as being a TV person who served vice president programming go directly in. There's nothing you produce on TV. Yes. In the back room some stuff. Yes. I think the real difference with fritzy is the way he treats tau. Let's ask them the in studio guest today in the back to come out and give testimonials for fritzy. Now, the me one. Let's let's welcome in all the guests. We've had in studio here today in New York City. Steve, the janitor. Seaton's wife, obscene, son. Nobody moving not that Moby a guy who looks like Moby. Yeah. Ruutel successful movie Friday tub. As Friday tub. That's why that's why you need that team. Like all the other shows a team of people, which we may or may not have one shining blackberry. Yes. Mclovin. You know? I went down mentally school with the Dan lebatardshow Booker Allison Turner, who also I think she'd be nominated. Wow. You, you know, she texted us who would you vote for? I mean, I go way back with house up in, you know, fourth grade together I have to rouse. That'd be sorry. That is usually how the voting goes previous connections and friendships no make everybody give their best and worst of the weekend. I don't I don't think I really don't. Best and worst. Okay. Right. They're all one Todd well done. Yeah. Let me see a couple more phone calls in here. Then we'll take a break Brad in Tennessee. Hi, brad. What do you have today? Just wanted to give you my worst. I'm an Auburn grad Auburn fan, and I was driving to pick up my son at a at a wrestling camp. And couldn't get the radio to get a clear signal. So pulled over ended up in a Red Lobster between Louisville and Cincinnati and. It it just just couldn't get much worse. I mean sitting in there like you said, I couldn't see what happened couldn't hear the whistle. The TV's the size of a postage stamp. You know, it's not your typical sports bar. It's just an old Red Lobster hadn't been in one in thirty years, and nobody was pulling against Auburn. But you know, got nothing but sympathy at the end hold on Brad. Yes, volley did the endless shrimp special make up for the painful loss. Did not, you know, if they're not, hey, you had a great year. And this is what I always tell fans when they they lose. And they didn't expect to get here. You had a great year. If I would have told you at the beginning of the year breath, it's going to be crushing. But you're getting to the final four. Would you have signed up for that? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. I told friends UT would go further than that. So okay, we married. Yeah. Congrats Madden Tennissee. Hey, matt. What do you have for me today? Hey, good morning, Dan. I'm only this time caller longtime listener six foot one eighty. A happiest can be nothing but the bathroom Virginia fan life ball. So no need to say what the best of the weekend was for me. However, I do wanna point out, and it's not you. I think you've been great, Bruce Pearl couldn't be more pre the way he's handled it, but over the four letter network, it's all about the rafts robbing Auburn of their chance to the national championship wanting replay on the double dribble. But if you go back to twenty seconds in that game, auburn's inbounding the ball toss. It into believe. It was thirty. You caught. It never puts the ball down shows. His feet does his best. Fred Astaire impression takes force that before he's fouled. No, no word on that. At all over the replay, though. Hey, look at this. This could have been overturned the double triple sequence of events never happened. So I would love for people to stop this counting. What the Virginia folks, Jimmy Kidd? Did they won the game and a story field with Auburn fans, but we're going we're going forward tonight. Hopefully, we can. We've got one more piece match Guinness. Thank you, Matt. Yeah. Congratulations. Now, I I didn't have a rooting interest in there. I root for the story. And I like Bruce Pearl, but if he doesn't add Vance than you know, he's still Bruce Pearl to me. And I just I you know, you hate to see it happen like that. But I give these officials credit. Yes, they missed the double dribble. They did. But they called that coal. And it was the right? Call on Kyle guy, and that's really hard to do. Because people will do the they'll say, you know, just swallow your whistle. Come on in the final two minutes. But it's not fair. It's not fair to the other team. If you swallow your whistle. They made the call. It was the right call is it a tough call. I didn't think. So I thought it was obvious. And and we saw that earlier with Purdue. So if anybody thought, oh, boy, they'll never call that again will they call it with the national title invitation on the line. So I give them credit for that. Did they miss the double dribble? Yes. Bruce, Pearl missed it. He didn't get upset about it. Nobody else. Did it was until further notice where you go. Oh, that's off his foot. He can't advance it. And then everybody was like, oh, you know, they missed the call and Auburn God job. It's a great season for over really was in the comeback. They had the final four minutes. Unbelievable. The chance to win it and go to the national title without your best player remarkable. And I hope that you don't forget about that. And that we stop focusing on. They got jobbed Bruce, Pearl is painful as it was when he talked to us in the first hour, and he knew where the ball was going to Kyle guy. And he still had the composure and the presence in professionalism to say, hey, we lost. We lost gamma club Wesley Bryant or friend that PJ golfer tweeted and asked if you could buy stock at one program who would it be Texas Tech Virginia, Auburn three great coaches, if you had to buy one, I gotta make sure that the coaches are staying is is is beard, staying at Texas Tech. Oh, man. That's probably part of the dilemma, I would go. Tony Bennett, Ed Virginia because it feels like he's he's created something there, the consistency there. And he's got a couple of guys who are going to get drafted first round. I think, but you know, he feels like he's getting more of a shoe three or four year guy. Then a one in donor. They're not the Texas Tech's getting the one in donor. Auburn is not either. And I think this is an aberration here because people are looking at this going there's no one and done. Runs in on the final four. I'm going. Yeah. Okay. But if Kentucky had gotten here Duke had gotten here, you know, it's just it. It sort of played out that way. This wasn't a great Kentucky to we talked about this at the beginning of their who was great this year. We saw Gonzaga get blown out in the in their conference tournament there. You know, you're trying to figure out who is really great. I didn't think we had a great team this year. That includes Duke, they were the most publicized, but they were vulnerable. Yeah. Mclovin. Is that it seems like the rule more Villanova? It's not a one and done team that North Carolina team that won with Jaren Jackson. They had no one maybe that one or to feel like it's the the non one and done to have a big edge here. If you said, I could have somebody if I can have a team full of third year fourth year players, then I would take that. And that's what Virginia's that experience. There's something to be said about that. I, you know, we always look at Wichita state where you go house Wichita state or Creighton, it's because they're just a really good team. An all star team does not beat a good team. That's been together. It just doesn't because it never fails. I've been on a playground where you got guys that are just you know, crazy athletic, and then you have a group of owner players in that older team will always be always. Yep. Oh, and when people go back to Carmelo Anthony look at the team around him, look at the older guys that were around him that also picked up a lot of slack people. Forget about him. But he did have talent around him wasn't just criminal in the camello ED's. Well, you're not gonna have Gerry McNamara. If you don't have him, you're not winning the national title now mellow great. Did he put up you know, was he one of the great scorers? We'd seen. Yes. But you had a veteran hall of fame coach, and you had some junior seniors around him. And I think you have to have that combine. Nation. The one thing about Duke is they didn't have outside shooters as much as I love trae Jones. I just didn't think that it felt like if something goes wrong who's there to bail the sound and you'd think Zion Williamson, but the biggest play of the season went to RJ bear last. Call for phone calls. We'll close up shop after this here. New York City every car comes with its share stories, right? That ding and your bumper when you nervously picked up a first date or maybe the luxury package, you got after a big promotion. Maybe it's the mileage you save by riding your bike all summer while you can't put a price tag under stories now with truecar you can at least find out what your car's worth when it's time to sell or trade it in just go to truecar simply enter your license plate number and watch. How your car's details? 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No. But, but she I I don't know. It's a thing. What's mclovin? You're grimacing one at a you gotta be. So I'm you told me about this in Minnesota at I Google it. I was with a bunch of people. I was like what a video you watch. It. It's great. You didn't like that video. I did. I just felt like it was a little age out for me. Yes. It is. But way to hit for me. It's super hip bad guy. Bad guy. I said batgirls. Yeah. Bad guy. Okay. My bad my bad guy. I don't know if this is gonna work. So let's see it's where in New York. So this gonna make shift here. So far all signs pointed. You want a great show. She like Bjork type what what we got here. No, no, no, you can tell we really plan things out here on this program. Here we go. Curses as I don't know. Who cares blame it on? Kid. We'll see. So. So you how do? I'm not. Thank you. That type I'm the guy. There you go. Oh, it's got hooks though. It's a it's a big deal that is kind of a more cheery Fiona apple. I don't know Athlon Prozac. If that hasn't been used before. No, I don't think it has. You know, I think we got this far seat without any trouble with the FCC. So yeah. But that's that's Billy eyelash, very talent. You know, what if you're a great book or maybe get Billy eilly shin here for is that get progressively more. Raunchy what was going on there? And that's how it sort of that theme. But it doesn't the videos wonderful that the colors in it. It's it's it's good. I really like this day in sports history. You gotta this dance. Oh, you don't have this date sports history. Polly. She did this day in Todd's booking history. Then. Oh, yeah. It was a pretty big one today. Yeah. You got John Menzel now not. So that booking. I'm saying give it to point. But sports history relates stands out in the world. It is Hank Aaron fifteen. Yeah. That's all you need to know. Big one. Yeah. 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Dane Cook, the KFCR Dating App, and Cancel Everybody

"Today's episode of Casey radio is brought to you by stitch fix the online personal styling service. That finds it delivers clothes, shoes and accessories that fit your body, very difficult to do at the moment, very difficult to fit my body. Your I'm going to have to update my statistics. Yeah. I that's what that is. Actually, the true sign of like you fat is when you have to change clothes. I I bought a few excels the other day. And I was like fuck I've officially transferred. God damn it. I I've had this for the three or four months long but advertising. Yeah. It's not working. It's not working anymore returning everything. Because none of this. The thing about you. Because the steroid use you're just like yours bigger. Like, I'm just so Michigan. You know what? I mean, just like lumpy here and flabby there. It's not a normal body. See I always think of myself as not being someone who carries their weight. Well, oh, totally disagree. Really? Yeah. Pretty pretty significant change. No doubt. Maybe that's just our body this fear that we that. We both clearly, but like when I see pictures of us, I feel like I look like lumpy and skinny fat and gross. And you bigger than you were. But you just look like bigger. It's not like you're like, you have a gut or like of double chin, it usually look like your larger than you were. But as long as it all grows with the girl. Yeah. It's almost like Barry Bonds in HGH is growing. It's not like you're like, oh, I got a spare tire or or like flabby? It's just like that you're cultivating bass. But I am. It's just it's significant. I always think of Dan is someone who carries us. Yes. But he doesn't say anything that you do really where he's just like kind of barrel chested. It's just like bigger. Okay. I never thought of myself on the same page. But if I'm you're gonna give it I'm taking. I mean, we both got the tips for how long a little bit. But I mean. It's been a lifelong issue. I just can't though I just decided I mean, did you remember like January like fourth you would like ABC given up on the the physical the physical New Year's resolution. I mean, I just I just genuinely don't. Genuinely don't think I'm ever going to lose weight. Like, I think I'm just gonna keep going until I die getting fatter like, how do you think you get? We'll find out like I used to think like, well, I am generally a skinny person. This is my new thing these days where like I said we're top like one percent of beautiful people as we're not hurrying ugly. We're also skinny people in the grand scheme of things like we're not there are people who like six hundred pounds. But there's a lot of fucking fat people across middle America, technically, we're skinny, but I don't know if I just keep going at this rate. I'm going to become a purse is we're skinny, but it's also like we usually skiers can you fat skinny skinny they are the photo. No John's in in the grand scheme of like like when integrated if you're gonna call grand scheme of things, and you have to call the whole world, and guess what? Most of the world is skinny and fucking middle America. No. I think there's more fat people skinny people. What's your BMI? Don't eat. You're you're technically skinny. My says you're obese I down. I mean, my high. That's that's how much you by percentage. The percentage of body fat. Right. It's like a weird. I mean, it's gotta be doesn't work for if you're it doesn't work if you're in shape, I've been morbidly obese before right for sure morbidly obese. It's like I have my percentage just by like in thirds, it's like organs bones fat, you know, whatever thirty for thirty three percent. Those three things across the board when big fat guy fax. And then I chime in on him. I like those are funny. I'm always tweeting about them. And then like clam will always be shut the fuck up. You're not fat. You know what I mean? Enough fat. But we're not kidding. All right. I will concede that I'm just saying in the grand scheme of things you look at us with our clothes on. We're not like fat people. But at this rate. I'm going to have to become fat. I remember I had like a conversation in high school with a buddy of mine. He was like how honestly because he was he was a buddy he's a guy who's in shape a lot. And he's a an I was was actually year after high school. So it was I was really starting to let myself go, but and he just had the honest talk with me, where's your line like ways like we were sitting in the middle of summer since Pam. In and of itself resilient lawn chairs in the backyard. I was in this wet pants, and certainly and he says I looked like where's the line? When does this style? Like, just I I honestly want to know if this is your life the path, then we know. Where is it? I was up forty pounds lighter than I am right now. Well, we got a good buck ninety for sure. Then the two hundred rolled around like oh boy. We'll see. You think that you'll never be able to lose weight because you will never try. Yes. Correct. Just like, well, here's my latest problem. I have what I thought originally was brilliant, and is now backfiring in a major way I got my kids into the same snacks. I like, so I felt them doughnuts and cereal. You have kids. Well, I don't care about them. Bye bye kids represent me. Listen, have you seen my daughter? She's not going to be fat. All right. Gee, you might be fat. He's a dude shea is like eleven pounds, and she's like three and a half years old. I I got all the now they come to my house, and they're like, I want black Doda lucky charm that called an intimate stone black dawn on. So now, I got the have these things on deck or now a bad, dad. Would you rather be it'd be a bad day? It'll be fat brand fucking pick because one of the goddamn other. Because if there's that shit's in my house, I'm eating them. Now, I just got everything I get a box for me. You gotta have the kids. The you gotta have the snacks the kids want. Correct. You got to have those. Dotty? You want to be like, you know, you went to a friend's house. And it was like all healthy snacks is the worst place in the world. The government can't be that guy. No. He can't be that guy. I mean, I for sure have to be the fun dad going certainly not going to be the dad. They're proud of. So I gotta be the fun. One gives them daughter is just like, I I don't think I'll ever be because you just think they'd like at some point as you get older that suddenly happens like it's not like I go to the gym four times a week. I just eat whatever I want and I do zero. Getting saying that most people in my spot would start to tighten it up. And you just know myself, and I'm just not going to. So which is respectable. It's not it's actually the total opposite is responsible to say like that with a friend. He was like look just let me know. No. But it's not expected to change. This is always such a like conundrum because you're very into your physical appearance. But you're like, but but it's horrible. Oh, we use. I know none. And so I really care about how I look how do I look very bad. So guess what? It tortures me mentally I've emotionally distraught about all the time. So I'm fully in control of it. I mix it. I got I have I've on the Titanic, and I see nice very right, though, it I'm like steered into it. Turn into a little bit. I think will probably take care of itself before we get there. Absolutely hundred percent, should we let's do a weight loss challenge this stops. Okay. But not yet. Not yet. He later. Definitely bellator. Yeah. A great idea. I feel like we we did. But I didn't really do it. Like, I know that was the problem. Like, I need. I mean like, I would I will. Why don't we do when we do start the clock on this one not now but later? Seriously. I don't know. Anyways. 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I used to write just because he's you know, he hasn't been around as much right? But it's like you see like your high school girlfriend. Yeah. I was just like oh shit. When I was in my formative years I was obsessed with right? It's a one way street, but it's like we've got history there's some shit here. I actually I don't know if I can't remember the last time, I was really nervous. I thought I was nervous for Zack Morris Mark, bog Ostler? But in comparison to this. Maybe it's just because that interviews done now. But I was like I wasn't nervous that I wasn't a what about Dennis today. Oh, Dennis Dennis Glenn. Glenn was. I always got up early for my. But none at all. Well, this is this is my point wasn't nervous. Yeah. Of course, nervous about the we have a it. I'm gonna trust in all black again like in the teenager. That's the only way I'll look slim. Those guys are just awesome at their peak and kind of killing it. And so I think it's like people are just happy to hear from them. And it's cool that we did something with them Dane, cook, there's some fucking meet to to bite into here. Like, I felt pressure as interviewer to make sure I ask them the right questions and get him to say some of the right things that people want to hear about so Glenn Howard, son. Sonny's? Awesome. Right. Yeah. It is. It's really awesome. This is Joe there's some shit that's gone down. Let's talk about it. And I've gotta make you a little more comfortable, and you publish this is going to be on edge. And like I want violent. They need to have the most uncomfortable seat in history in the new studio like just give them like honestly like this should be a dildo. Stuck? Trying to like fucking I'll just outside. Yeah. Just it's better. If you just outside. We'll look like free throws and food outside like out there. See you. The interview. So we can say with fuck. Yeah. So I it was nervousness to make sure we did like a good job. I hope we I think we did we it was a I mean, I thought it was very interesting conversation. He's he's a dude who like. I very much believe that he's a guy who if you meet him, and you know, him is very different than if you just read about them and see about stage. I think I wrote that maybe maybe I just have a soft spot because I think that's a lot of what goes on here. And then certainly with me personally people meal like, oh, this is very different from what I thought. So I get that. I think people who made me like. Priebus, bro. That's why you the best bay. You know, what you see is which guy. Yeah. I don't I don't think they like it's complimentary when it's said to you or someone who like they didn't like with me. It's like that's about what I thought it was going to be. But that's that's why you are the best. What you see is what you get. It's again. It's not a good thing. It is. Is not great. You good. There are better things to be then perfectly predictable. So wait a minute one moment in the interview. That was funny was I was asking why Dane cook never had any interaction with barstool because he he's from Boston. And he was kinda coming up like mid two thousands same time. We were coming up. And I understand that he like popped and didn't like need barstool in any way. But everybody started laughing being like, yeah. Dan, cook didn't need barstool, bro. And I didn't mean it that way. But you you don't think it's weird that there was never any. I think they've trashed him before. I think they okay. So I was going to go down that road. And be like was it. Because like we've said bad things about you. But I don't wanna make it awkward, but it's it got sufficiently awkward anyway. But I think even if you were a monster like if you're from especially Boston, which is like, you know, if you're from New York from L A, it's like, yeah, we're all from all the entertainers everybody's from here. But if you're in Boston, like, even if you are selling out the garden shit, he knew about barstool, and Mike I still doesn't need bars. Louisville comments on the post, and that's what I'm saying. Yeah. So like, I so while he was you know, he says it while moment like in a joking manner. He's like not to be a dick. But like you guys weren't on my radar. But like we were you had to be we had to be on if you're from Boston. And you're doing that shit. I heard of it. Yeah. Should have been like, yo I gotta be on the rundown. But like a question about asked about us here or there or mention or I don't know. I just thought there's probably a reason why there was no contact at all. And as we. Ships in the night where it was like I mean, he was big in four or five. So we were like just starting that a lot. I don't even think that. Yeah. I don't wanna just working. But then when I was saying, I yeah. I mean, I started no nine, but I'm saying that is then when he probably like started to knee would probably actually need a little more, publicity and getting the nine. Yeah. Like, as well, we'll we'll we'll let the interview speak for itself because I guess I guess that's the the big thing about the in cook is a lot of the perception. That you may have of him. If you read the articles and believe some of the talk. It's not really reality. And even if it is reality motherfucker killed it. So sometimes when it's like, oh, man. Well, he fell off. And it's like, well, you know, I had a decade long run of complete dominance. So. Yeah, I mean, I guess that had to stop eventually. I couldn't do that forever. Good sell out every arena for eternity. So it's it's an interesting look at a guy who I was kind of like misunderstood. If you believe some of the it is weird Asia in an entertainment that if you're if you're an athlete who has a ten year run. I mean, what are you supposed to forever? If you're entertainer who had ten years of. Yes. He said, I could go wherever the hell. I wanted to tell it out. Yeah. Like, I won the MVP ten years in a row. Wow. This guy's. Yeah. He's over. He's not even doing that anymore. Well, yeah, I had to stop eventually. But yeah, very interesting stuff with Dane cook. Boy smells coming up. But first we had talking about the stupid people in the world what's going on? And pop culture. That's brought to you by trip actions. If you're frustrated with your company's travel management program or lack thereof you gotta look into trip actions. If you got an office manager Brett, who's screwing up your business travel your corporate travel. Well, here's a solution. That helps you save time money and keep your employees happy the reason trip action works, so well is that it's the first travel management platform designed from the ground up with the road warrior in mind. Twenty four seven proactive support around the globe. 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John John Lena's been Hugh. Few Juki or three said, do you hear the news? It was it was very Peter King ask like did you hear the news? Peter gang began Salta. John Wayne, he's been cancelled it said. Is John Wayne alive? Still. Oh, no, no. He's been dead before decades. But yeah, pasta mislead he has been sold for an interview he did like nine hundred sixty seven it's it's one of my favorite things that have happened. People are kind of like outlook. Of course, he is. I love that we canceled. I I actually worry that. We haven't cancelled Hitler yet. Like. Like cancel. Why has John Wayne been canceled? You say abbey he said, and this interview is legit from like the late sixties or something seventy one seventy one. We are. We magazine we were getting up in arms about a problematic interview from nine hundred seventy one as you would playboy he died in nineteen seventy nine from a man he was born in one thousand nine hundred seven. Who portrayed perhaps the most accurate cowboy of all time? Yeah. And we are surprised that he's kind of a dick. The racist outside through the great depression, both world wars Korea, Vietnam, or every all of the bad things that happened in modern history. He lived through. He was a fucking megastar bazillionaire and at. Yeah, we're like this guy. He's a beast toxically. He's Massey taxi literally what the fuck out of here. Of course. Here's here's what quote, a what kind of films? Do you consider perverted? Oh, easy rider, midnight cowboy that kind of thing. Wouldn't you say that wonderful love of those who met have been cowboy story about two Fags qualifies. They'll get me wrong. As far as and woman is concerned. I'm awfully happy. This thing called sex. It's an extra thing. God gave us. I see no reason why shouldn't be in pictures, healthy lusty. Sex is wonderful. He claims with with a lot of blacks dab, your defecating here. The b word a lot. There's there's quite a bit resentment in their descent and possibly rightfully so. But we can't all of a sudden get down turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks. I believe in white supremacy until. Until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. Oh, cancel him. Maybe we should cancel it in four decades late believe in authority, if it isn't a relationship to irresponsible people. And I mean, it's. The gist. Understood. I am very much on board with the whole idea of like. An old man. He's from a different era. Come on. We news you'd racism, we realized surprise. But when you say the words, I believe in white supremacy. But here's the thing if I could defend LA, no way. Wait. No. I was thinking this was a nine hundred seven. I didn't really get a bad rapid though. It was it was a little bit. It was very chic at the moment. And it was nineteen seventy one seventy one seventy two Premacy. I mean, that's like, you know, it's like you have to read mine comp. Yeah. To cancel Hitler. Like, oh, boy cheese. He was saying. Mussalini Stalin have these people been canceled. Well, let's say habit. Let's do it. Yes. What Mussalini your canceled canceled Joseph Stalin cancelled who else. So you want? I want Hitler. Oh, you want Hitler out? Guess what Adolf Hitler? He's out canceled in modern dance. Oh can't seed can cancer. My gosh. Before those was the real problem castle got cancelled he was candy. We had cats with what's his name. Our boy mccoo. Rob mule cancelled the fuck out of that guy with one to the fucking temple. But it was still but still we got we got two cats just to make sure be guile care. I think. Kind of like what we say with athletes. I might cancel anyone born before nineteen seven. You're all gone. Yeah. It's almost like it's almost like the steroid era in baseball. Every nobody's above suspicion. Everybody was doing it. If you are from I'll say anything past like nine hundred ninety one cancelled. You've been problematic. You didn't even know what you were doing was racist. All in a bugle boy shirt castle. A lot of we're going to do a lot of cancel in here in two thousand nine thousand on Casey radio. Get you could get canceled on this show. You better watch out of actually excited to embrace cancel culture. I I've railed against for long enough where we're cancelled Wayne. I love it. Love. The person whoever wherever like, you know, patient zero is on the story. The guy was like unearthed that fuck and article, and it was just so happy. If you cancelled apparently, also, it's a famous article. Yeah. So people would try to cancel the guy who oh do that. I was double cancel because you know, what we're not. We're not cancel culture. We'll double cancel culture, double cans, cancelled culture. That's gonna be us. We're gonna cancel everybody. Who's even trying to cancel everybody can get cancelled. As like, he's a. This article is the very famous one of the most famous interviews in history. Yeah. But you know, that you know, like, so, but that guy was basically he was trying to be a native American and this new fell off on pilgrim Columbus. He said listen here. Pal. We've been as my story now. Walks west if you but events come that lets you all mine. I. Motherfucking article. I wonder if appreciate that. He's up having like, I'm glad you fag. It's me. Spitting tobacco. I the thing about it is like, yeah. Okay. Listen, we all know that Mussalini Stalin and Hitler and bin Laden, they're canceled worthy. I didn't know that John Wayne was gonna get cancelled. It's really about five. But once I heard it, but you didn't wake up in the morning being like, I can't believe we haven't cancelled John Wayne yet though because. Denver. I know. But that's the key to finding a good cancel is. You got to pick somebody who nobody's even thinking about cancelling. Because then the cancel self funny. The reason why this is awesome. Because you Don Wayne's been dead for half a century. That's funny that we're cancelling them. So you got to find some obscure people to cancel that. People are never even gonna realize. I look for like old dead white men. Yeah. Pretty much Greg McNamara. Live. Look it up even if he as definitely RH even if he's alive canceled. I don't know why I think Greg McNamara was always the athlete. We were gonna kill Gary McNamara. Gerry mcnamara? Gerry mcnamara? We I faked his death wants. Know, I did that one. Yeah. Yeah. He I tweeted one day like recipes and he got him. He had to tweet like I'm I'm in Florida right now, I'm fine. Like that was that was one of my grinding achievements. Who's very much alive. Yeah. He's like thirty five. He's like coaching fucking Syracuse basketball either. I am not canceling geometric young now G mat can't be cancelled know that whenever I think of whenever I'm told that the universe your name. I always think because of yes, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember will cook up that planet like he was before the Christmas party at about. Right. That really sounds about right. Yeah. We're gonna we're gonna cook up some cancel where people, you know. It'll be risky. Cancel Carl Lagerfeld. Guess what totally cancelled Karl Lagerfeld was. He was a horrible. He was two women. Wasn't. He was like, oh, I don't know. John. I look I bought it right away. I mean that guy do you know, what his models like he used to make them like starve themselves to look good for his fashion show. Well, he cancelled he the Giselle had like a ton of heartfelt Giselle Cucuta. Actually, they all suck my dick there. The fucking cleans of this shit Carlotta fields probably bowing down to them. I'm talking about the new girls up and coming who hops on the scale, and she's like one hundred one pounds, and he's like get this fat bitch outta here. Carla lag cancer fifteen biggest stars of the nineteen seventies. Let's go. Clint Eastwood can't wait a minute. But he's legitimately can't. Yeah. He's actually cancelled. He's a problem with my mom saw. The mule was like so disgusted by I didn't see that. But I mean, Jeff Lowe was like this was just a beautiful display of like old American racism. She was like she there was there was a scene where she hated all because of one scene where he had to have threesome. She's like, no one would fuck that guy. Clint Eastwood in the mule had a three somebody. I was like it's like, you know, it's like he goes to like the Mexican. Towel. And he's like getting women you walk academy. Diatta Caddick a willing, right? Like. Picked up a couple of bras in the grocery store implied. Hey, I'll shoot you in the fucking head. If you don't go suck this. They got it which I actually don't think is crazy. Like, that's that happened that probably happening unrealistic scene. But almost like there's no way. There's no they they just get in there. And they wouldn't they wouldn't do anything. There's no way. He's so disgusting. He's canceled Barbra Streisand tough to cancel females. But I'm sure she's I'm sure she she. Treasury hates anybody who's not Jewish cancelled. I'm I'm Barbara size. It she's good Burt Reynolds. For RIP actually heard Burt Reynolds was like like like beloved at FSU and stuff like that. And I lose it athlete. But but I mean by like, other athletes and people who were probably underrepresented at the time and stuff like that. He's a womanizer. Oh, okay. So he's been cancelled. The woman is just what? Just because you're a womanizer doesn't mean I'm so hot with that. The no I guarantee Burt Reynolds womanizing if you're womanizing with people who are willing. There's nothing wrong with that. You might you better watch your mouth. I'll I'll I'm going to defend somebody. I'm not gonna cancel I'll cancel everybody with broad strokes. Like anyone before the seventies? Cancel. Vigil name. All right. Well, I'm I'm three or three cancelled right now. So Woody Allen Kay, right? Cancel guy. Why hasn't Woody Allen again, all jokes aside? Like, I was I was joking. Then I was joking about how Clint Eastwood actually used to be cancelled. Now, I'm not joking anymore. Woody Allen, these you can't let's look to fuck is the whole suing somebody else for like forty million dollars because they cancelled the movie or something they they killed them. And he's suing. And it's like, I mean, no like, you should not only you should be in jail. You should be like just fucking dropped on the side of a mountain and left to die marriage daughter. You're married your daughter. You're fucked your daughter dude can Sola than the eighteen to. Yes, it's like an underage. Family member yo that you might have been grooming or a little bit for that. Oh him for real cancel it. Mike, again, not just like, oh, we're not gonna let you do movies anymore. We do like ostracized from society man, no food for you, Paul Newman. No, no will not as bad as fucking beautiful at slapshot, so good. Although Mamie polling data birth on Paul Newman. I'll decide decide maintain twenty five twenty five I was born in two thousand five. You can't. I feel like C Paul Newman's perfect. Actually, he's John Wayne. He's the guy like I would like to wake up in the morning. Find an article and be like a mess at the internet and fire can't sleep Paul Newman. A guarantee you Paul Newman said the end because Paul called them in because John Wayne will the part of that was great about it was it wasn't surprising, Paul them. It would be surprising because he's the lemonade guy. He is. We'll tell you what people drink lemonade pretty racist. I was just gonna say that grittier Cisco. Did you see him be like everyone timing? He'll figure it was like I didn't make my jeans for black people. I could see him being like, I hope the blacks aren't drinking my lemonade, Paul Newman's been canceled. Yeah. So no, Robert Redford. Now, he's good reference. He's I. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance. I know he's fine. He's he's a little too young for that too. Yeah. Oh, I I've watched the mule. That'd be all I watched old man with a gun, which is like the mule, but nicer that was good with who's a Clinton not. He's he's fine. He's not Mel Brooks. Now blazing saddles and shit. He likes black people as he's ju you can't cancel it's very hard to cancel harbor barbers cancel, but it's very hard to cancel juicy. He Woody Allen. We a bunch of us so far what you on his his pedophilia, and whatever supersedes Junius. Yeah. Agreed. The John John Wayne turned down a role ladies adults. Because the it was sure he did the short. He descrip- was too blue. Yeah. To black. These are a little bit more modern Hoffman Pacino. Hoffman Travolta Hoffman kinda got cancels. He defended somebody who shouldn't have been defended at all. I think what he out. Yeah. I bet you off his cancel. I bet you do some digging. There's some there's some skeletons there he came out and defended Spacey mate somebody he was like why why are we trying to tear down a good, man? It was like, well, it's not a good, man. Dude. Sounds like a Weinstein. Yeah. Maybe maybe we could have been Weinstein. He it was almost like he was so early. It was one of the early cancel. So he was like why are we doing this? Whereas everyone knows now get off the tracks because stopping it. So don't be the one speaking up against it. 'cause you're going to get taken down to so a half a cancel you better. Watch your step Dustin 'cause I'll throw out that other half so fucking fast confuse you with Michael Douglas, real quick. Pussy mouth cancer the other one? Okay. All right, fine. But what down at a watcher ASO convince convince Kathy Jones fasten your head. Go fucking spend last Charles Bronson, and we do sliced loan slides goods lies goes, let's go Charles Bronson. Charles rouse, cancel where these me. Oh, he was like he wasn't. He like the head of the hall is super can probably were canceling. Yeah. I to be says that cancel stamping. I think if your guy right now, I have issues, but if you not NRA guy like the seventies girl cancelled. Let's let's move to the modern day today because there was big time cancel yesterday. You can go ahead and cancel Jordan woods is her name. Sure. Jordan. Astle? Yep. Definitely gonna select. A course Jordan woods will get into her. The biggest cancel of the year. Thus far brought to you by seek buying tickets. Buying and selling tickets that could be complicated. It can be confusing now with Yuki I almost want to be like is it complicated and confusing anymore because aren't you all just using seek, you know, it's almost like if if imagine if the pitch for like automobiles in general cars was like it's hard to get around. It takes a long time to walk places by cars that Seekie it's like we've fixed. This you guys are the standard. 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Jordan woods is gonna hit you off this. This is. We got to give a little background because I don't think everybody knows the saga. I I definitely don't. I just I just know. We'll give gifts. Jordan woods lives with Kylie Jenner. Kylie jenner's, Kim Kardashians, sister half sister, Kylie. Why does she live with her? Why are they friends because I mean, if if you could live with Kylie wouldn't you, but how do they meet? Yeah. I I don't know that much. I think they're probably they know business associates sort of thing, you know, Cam has that guy looks like a scarecrow, and there's those those black twins that hanging around all the time. They know they're hires them. Yeah. You know them what's some shit? I've never seen literally ten seconds of keeping up with the crash. Okay. So maybe you don't on them. They they have their friends gifts that's about using they they have friends they have business partners. They have hangers on. They have people who became part of the reality show kinda it's like, oh, you're the you're the assistant who was always around. But now all of a sudden people know you a little bit. So this girl did this for Kylie. She lives in her house. She's like a surrogate or a honorary Kardashian the whole nine takes care of the kids and shit. She fucked interested top civility who is married to khloe tristen, very famously in publicly cheated on khloe Kardashian when she was pregnant one us, come bad move and. And then they say together with Jordan. Then though that was like a like insofar she went viral like she went public in like posted videos and shit. Like that also a scumbag move people should never do that. So Chloe stayed by her man did not she did not air him out. She did not roast them. She said, whatever we're gonna make it work. Well, strike one fine strike to not as cool with everything. Big time game changer when you fuck the like your sister's free even thought they just like made out on a club. I don't I actually don't know the details on that. I think that I is. There was something that said they saw her leaving his house at seven AM though. That's just that's just. You have to be a stupid idiot versus stupid. This. What I what I read this. I was I was beyond baffled because just knowing that. I mean, how do you give that gravy train? I mean, it is it is the it is like taking a lottery ticket and lady on a fire. You had. I mean when you when you when you ride kylie's coat tails, you just live Kylie jenner's life. It's like, you know, what this is. This is Frankie Frankie right now lives like day. Portnoy, Frankie is a twenty three or four year old guy making no money, but he flies private. He goes to events with models eats the finest restaurants, he rubs elbows with billionaires. He goes to every sporting event because he just gets to live Dave's life by association that was that was Jordan woods. She's on the cover of Forbes. She made a billion last year because when you're the right hand, man, you just get to live that life. But all you gotta do is not fuck it up. I also I, you know, I actually think. That even more. Than than the the pain of losing that life. I think what would suck more is just not only thinking you're stupid. Kris Jenner is just not hooking her gang. Like Christian is gonna murder a body. Put it in your head and the less. Chris was behind all this. I think Kris Jenner wants Tristan Thompson him. So she paid your with the do that. Yes. So I think that now Jordan woods is on the low. She's on the ultimate gravy train? The Chris Tanner private gravy train like yelled, girl, you're going to have to be like publicly ridiculed. You're going to get cancelled by Cassie radio. It's gonna be tough. But like, here's your monthly payment because I got to get rid of Tristan Thompson because he's a fucking dope here. He is he's he's not. He's not like, I don't know who stupider Hemmer, Jordan woods 'cause that's a great. That's a great. I don't know. She she because he's still basketball player. He's still worth a zillion dollars. Yeah. That's right. I always forget how much money Bastl play like Chris. John sound like an eighty million dollar deal. Big money. I was thinking like, oh like like he's going to need to do something after basketball. All good. And he's like he's probably like later. You know what I mean? Like, isn't it weird though that like Kris Jenner has a few black marks? Like she let Kris Humphries in. She let Tristan Thompson then. Well, it's part of this. Choice. I mean like you think like this mastermind, but it's just like why did I disagree? I think that that like there was a buildup process to a fucking Konya west. And there was you know, there's some good drama. It makes them humanizes them. Like, we all have like dud boyfriends like it see at that point. I don't think Kim was on Connie level yet. I don't think she was on like NBA NBA MVP level yet. I think she was likely due to like land a superstar now, I already Ben with James harden. She's been like I like like, oh, yes. Yeah. I mean khloe have Lamar she she's kind of trending backwards. I mean, Kim was on Connie's level. Then they were like friends they were already. But I you know what? I mean. I think there's there's gotta be like season four's like the bad like the late. The loser boyfriend with a bad break up and season five is like we're single and then season six's gone is is she's she's writing a scripts man, she it's not about just like Bauer the best. It's like, oh, we're just like you over human or she found her one of the great. Hist storytellers of this generation. I mean, I'm not even kidding. I'm really not even though she found her forever soulmate. Now. What is what has she done to deserve reputation because the people the way people talk about her. They talk about her like she's a God Kris Jenner. Yeah. Well, how do we have one that she had anything? She had one daughter who fucked a deals rapper and now everybody in her entire life is like a billionaire, but we would've she have to do with that. I think she's regarded as like the business manager of the whole operation. Oh, she's a mama jer. She's big she's dumb major the mama during the co producer of keeping up with the car. Dash that just said I'm going to pay me my children. She's just you know, it's just like every. The matriarch. It just happens to be like on TV. And there's a difference between you know, being on a pimp out, my daughters, and whatever and then then getting credit for writing the scripts for the most deserty these days. Everything some people are, you know, part of the joke is like Kris Jenner runs the world. I'm sure she's happy to sit back and just take that credit. But I do think she's got a heavy hand in a lot of this. Because it's just like all right? I got one daughter who's got a fat ass, and she's pretty and she fucked on camera, but I'm gonna make like the girls who were like ten years old at that point are now billionaires. You know, by the way, Kylie said that they cut her off when she was fifteen. She says all of her money is money, and she's a billionaire. Kind of believe it yoga. Maybe maybe and you had and you had your billionaire friend Jordan, and you just had to go get some Tristan Thompson, dick. I mean Tristan Thompsons a fucking loser. I know he's got eighty million dollars. Whatever he plays bass. He's a loser. Yeah. So good idea. Well, it's like LeBron was advocating just say, maybe they thought he was gonna take that. Well, yeah. I mean again that Kris Jenner like, oh you play with the Bronx. You're gonna win an NBA title. Great LeBron's the Lakers. We gotta get rid of this guy. It's like the timelines adding up perfectly. Oh, you play from bomas Cleveland now without LeBron Jordan go fuck, I wonder I wonder how Anthony Davis will leave until this somehow some way he's gonna get traded dash sheets. And then he's gonna she's gonna make a waxes eyebrows. Honestly, Jordan is either. So there's two scenarios. She's either the dumbest person alive or she's on the payroll, and she's the smartest person alive. Because once Kris Jenner taps, you on the shoulder and tells you to do something you have to do it like she might be like, no, I love Kyle father. Yeah. It is. It's like, I love you highly. Well, you have to fuck. Chloe's husband. Sorry, some prima knocked type shits game of thrones type shit shows. How it goes around these parts voicemails still voicemails brought to you by twenty three and me. 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And then they say say the numbers to three. Why would you not just use the numbers to me, and my girlfriend here were couple of drivers out of an interesting question. Oh. Take today 'cause the located. Thanks, guys. Really great. But anyway, we actually had a really interesting question for we were. So we were debating and you're talking about. Yeah. So. Eric. It's your news relief or your significant other like which is than ever, and he's like your mom. Goes by role in office viral as in like the enormous would have people like Twitter trash the trash on Twitter. But I mean, like viral isn't like CNN picks it up like new stations. Like Joe look at this dudes or girls new twenty nineteen. Let's be gender body was worse. This couple they called it all last last did the other is it the same couple. Is it the same? I said it was I didn't hear that. Okay. And I I honestly I was thinking to myself like they're going to try to recreate this unless there's like leave a good thing be. But then he likes started to genuinely stutter and stammer again, and she had to jump in and save him. Again. I was like this is the realist couple ever like get to the point. What's worse Volvo, they sound genuinely happy together they do. So put that on the board for us. Yeah. Where the most romantic part podcast in the game. Matchmakers will cancel you will make you fall in love. We just got together. Because as you're eighty right how that happens. But yeah, of course, I mean, how many how many people use us on their fucking dating profiles tons. How do people come to our shows that happened two years ago? A few. I guess is the ultimate qualifier like if you were out of the bar, and you start talking podcasts somehow, and he said what podcast is doing its KFC radio. It's like, oh, we're very simple. Very similar very weird. Like we. It's almost like, you know, when people joke about those like dating apps for like people with STD's. It's okay, we'll all get together because we suffer from the same fate. That's the Casey radio radio. Why don't we? Why don't we make a dating app? Which make dating Ivan? Let's be perfectly honest. We are not going to make it. I didn't say I didn't say they're going to make it. Yep. I said we should we should we should. And it would be like what's your? Oh. I mean, honestly this app is fucking brilliant. We put one of the questions Alec every day. And if you answer one way, you're thrown into a pool with these people, and you answer another question, you're thrown into a pool of people answer that way, and you whittle it down, and then you just have to automatically marry the person whittles down to one. I mean, that's a great idea as I'm I believe you answered like twelve to fifteen hypothetical questions, and a narrowed it down to one person for you. Wouldn't you be questions like are? Yes of the internet questions or questions like dating there are questions. So it's like someone. Ends burger you would fuck in like murderer cat. And then all of a sudden, it's like this person is the only person who answered the same as all of your questions, but I wouldn't want that person. I want somebody that's the same. As me. I we enter different all the time. So God damn complicated. I want somebody does the optimism challenges me. So what you go. Well, you don't do the dating app, but you would be like this person match. You get gives you two matches. It gives you your KFC. You're. Title vita work. Miss a great fucking app idea. That are weirdo. Cult will will enjoy somebody make this let me in tech make this the guy who made one bite. Yeah. You made a pizza app. Make dating app. I mean, he took him a long long time you better fucking buckle up. Who would be worse? You your news leaking or your? I've said this healtcare budget news on real record, Eric I don't get fucked. And I I I might when it happens. I might start to give a fuck because other people will be like, what are we going to do about this? I don't know your fuck like I feel like I'd have a meeting like Erica would be like what what's our response going to be me. I don't have one by those meetings are not fun. Maybe it'll get worked up after that. But like in the moment, I'd like I remember that picture would you care about your significant others? I would care because I want I they would probably. I certainly don't want this for like. Mom, I want to protect you. So I fuck I don't care, man. I haven't evenly sent a nude in forever. I'm out on sex. Who said that last time I've been about the sex and game. A couple of flowing out there. He says that and then, you know, they're all I probably I probably I relish it right now. Look I was. I was. What you were sending news of like your body. You're crazy. I mean, it's not I don't just go dig I look like my face covered. But like, yeah. Like a full body shot. You I want my news leaked. I don't want that to happen. Just want to say that would really really prefer that not to happen. That's my answer. You also you've also like you've had your I think everyone gets one public for a. Oh, yeah. Let's hope. That's right. Let's hope that's correct one or at least one I I think it's probably closer to one. Meaning what what people are not going to care the second time around. I think it depends on what if if CNN was reporting on you. That would probably be like, right? Okay. Come on. If like, yeah. There's gonna rumor whenever I'm pretty sure the same people who picked up the story. Number one. I'm gonna pick up story. Number two. Yes. Probably sells. Fuck fucking clicks. Yeah. So guess what? That means. There's more the one public for John. I guess you're right now, you didn't do any. He didn't do anything there to help me feel better. Fucking question. Hey, guys. So I feel like one of you wants to something that whole like if you exchanging will pick it up, and I thought I thought today when I actually dropped three dollars. And we were in line, and I will get like be the pick it up in a passer by was like, oh, somebody just drops the money, and they're all next to me claimed. It was like, oh that must've been me and Mike rabbit instructing her purse and annoyed. I lost out on the three dollars. I was super with somebody like claimed it even though she clearly didn't drop it like like cranking up in pocketed, and she made a point to be like, oh that must be me was super fucked up, and I think of fucked up. I mean this question, I think he's crazy. Doing is crazy. I totally agree with you. I agree with her. But it is like I will every step of the way. Bend over three hundred dollars. I don't think I've been over three dollars. Yo you're lying. I shop multiple paper bills on the ground. You're picking it up. I'm not going to like. Zero percent chance. But I think about it if minor inconvenience like if it's like it's under that chair over there. Like, oh, I have to ask someone to move. I might just be like, but I you know, why I I'm not going to I like the wind blows at all. Oh, yeah. If I'd like chase it if you had to run around chasing like a Bill flake floating in the wind like Bill. Say a one thousand dollar Bill. I'd be like, well, I'm not going to be like. No people now dollars. Can step. But otherwise, let it go because I don't want you to look foolish. I I don't care. I would think about not being up to three dollars. But I would because the people I mean, I had a guy the corner guy Grand Central. I dropped a quarter out of my pocket. Kept it moving. He followed me out of the train station and on the street. I'm forty seconds. She was like you drop this and it was a quarter. I was like oh my God. Go by bus right back into the hottest. I have been. Thank you. Thing they meaning drop. Zipper on my backpack is broken. So it looks like it's open the whole time. And everybody's got to the point where when people say excuse me, sir. You're back that I just I grow them. They have no idea told by forty people today that my backpacks really addict, he really wants people told me to tell my shoes. What sometime I'm like? I'm walking back to my seat where I can sit down. I don't want to bend over right now, anti it. So leave me alone. He will in his office. Tie your shoes. Yeah. I mean, it's it's not like, it's all the time. Standing. Yeah. It. I'd kill you. Why don't you untie your shoes? Shut the fuck up. I so I if you drop three dollars everyone around you is going to be sir, sir. Excuse me, dropped three dollars, sir, sir. You drop money draw money. Stop. Yeah. It. It's it's bore convenient to bend over by those those people and say, and then you have to say to them. I know I'm better than you. I don't want that three dollars. And then you're an asshole. I I don't get. Yeah. Right. I don't care if if I was walking alone down in alley. I probably wouldn't pick it up because I would I wouldn't there will be no opportunity for right to be. But in any sort of interaction that results from it. I'd rather do pick it over. I'd pick it up. So yeah, that's fair. Now, the next step if you are willing to give up that money should is fair game. Now it is now. But it is also a grimy move to be like, oh, that's mine. Yeah. Oh, I draw. I would be it'd be if she said is not going to go on claimed. I'll take it would you with that? Anybody's nobody. Okay. Yeah. That'd be but the. If she if she just picked it up putting her bucket. Totally good. But. Get every step of the way that must be mine. Oh, why why do you think that's yours? I actually I'm bite start talking about this. Why do the right? Tell me why. But just you hundred percent did you like something out of your bag? And you thought maybe a fell is there. A reason why you think it's yours. Did you have three dollars in your person? Then you didn't because I'm telling you, it's mine it's one thousand and if you give me a good reason why you think it so as to keep it. But why the fuck you otherwise? But otherwise don't even get back to me put back on the floor. Right back refounded for someone else to claim properly now now with Obama made up story he picked up some little kid who wants to buy Snickers, his mom won't get here. Right. There you go. Guy deserves it that could got his my money. Not you. I you're calling from by also just think that this is such a girl move where it would be like Aera minds me of like, what do you want for dinner, you peck? And like, all right. We're getting cheeseburgers. I want it. I don't wanna cheeseburger. It's like I don't want that money, but you can't have it. Yeah. You know? That's the way I feel about money and your I don't want it. You can't have it. I feel that way about almost everything sex you get money. Same thing. All of it. Why not? Why not few though? KFC five BC. So on the train. I faked a cost basically like a Ebl ask type of cough just to avoid anyone sitting next to me because it's. I don't know Jay long day at work. I don't want anyone near me. So I started thinking what is the craziest thing that you guys have done to avoid human contact at all costs. I'm sure I've done crazy about this one. I in my mind, so thank. I mean, I can't really think of one specific instance, but really my entire life is geared towards that limiting human interaction. Yeah. I only have ever done anything in particular. I never done anything yet. I've done everything. Chinese real for. Rhonda. I actually, you know, he's back. I don't give a fuck about sit next to people. What was his what was his example is under fake cough? I think you have to isn't that like a lot of work to cough, so hard that you scare people off the train is the train. Like you can't be expelled. One. Yeah. I I don't go looking for multiple cars. I remember we went up to like the section ten. The fucking the Red Sox thing at Foxwoods and Mykola chair Ron train and like the two of them just can't walking they walk into multiple cars. Looking for a duo, see the guys I'm just going to here. Yeah. I don't care about to this guy. He's not going to talk to me. Nobody else if you go on public trans you gotta deal with the fact that you are going to be around other people and everything. Sit there. Put our headphones in the guy's not gonna fucking. Gimme gimme an interview. Now. I know what you're saying the train is everybody's kind of on the same page. They should be at least. I mean, I I will. The amount of things that I need to fix right now that involve me calling like a customer service person. And I'm just like well that problems going to remain on unsolved. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing the fucking press. One speak your your account number to find. Your your VIN number. Whatever was trying to pay my car Bill, and they're like make an account put in your VIN, your vehicle ID number. I put it in there. Like, this is not a vehicle. I'm like. It's written on my car. I'm looking at the little sticker, and they're like, well, we'll get back to you in three to five days. I'm like, please. Don't just please. Don't get back to me. I don't wanna talk to you anymore. I'm going to try to go onto the raiders on registered. I guess. So I don't know. I mean, it is registered I have registration, but on this database where I'm trying to pay the fucking builders like, well, there's no relatives get a new car why? But. Everything is like that in my life. Everything I went to another website. Like, oh, you're doing it wrong going through you're going through the dealership you have to go through this website entered in presented VIN doesn't exist. My old car. Same thing. I had to call at the get on the phone every month to pay my car Bill because when I went to set up auto pay it just said, this number doesn't exist. So now, I have two cars in a row something going on. This is a conspiracy to cars, different brands, different dealerships, different everything both numbers, don't exist. That's insane. That's just me. This is my life. That is very much. That's right. It's just like it's not creek. Because I have friends. Heard of this before right? Like, I every single thing. I do is more difficult than it needs to be every time. Please only claimed needs. Let's go next. Hey, KFC fights properties should be. I got a little bit of a. Would you rather for you guys? Remember in black mirror. How you could block people or topics that people talk about like blur mouths, and are talking you blur on certain things, you know, Sony, was would you rather have sports locked out of your of your life or the rest of your life or not be able to see Netflix or Hulu rainy of the streaming services ever again. So like, even when anyone talks about those things their mouth is sports. You never get you anything while you're show where it's or all of like entertainment from your life. I know my answer. Delivering sports, though doubt wa eliminate sports. I wanna cancel sports so bad if I could, oh, no I come into the office and everytime. Dave talks about the patriots. It gets blurred out sign me. The fuck up L every time the Mets lose. I don't have to hear like everybody talking about it. Great. I wanna cancel sports get out of my life. But I wanna talk Agean the opposite. Like, you watch the game of thrones fucking. You know, you don't even get to watch games. There was episode. You just know that hey last night was the finale, but you can never watch it and you come in. And everyone's like, oh, did you see that? And then there's like more little on it gets like blurred out and muffled came talk about it. This is a real now. It's totally different for you could under him. Yeah. No. I I can't take sports. But she sports is like you're going to have like a yearly probably twice a year championship celebrate. But I mean every single night you're not gonna be like watch TV. You're talking about TV like, it's a quality quantity thing. Now your life. But like my face, watch sports. I can watch other things I could watch like CBS. No, I think it was. On expanding it. It's just entertainment al-tv, TV or sports. I'm less than I watched the Rangers hurricane game. So I guess. Yeah. Fly. Have you would be so bored? Probably, but but the I would be bored. You go so hard at those parades because we baked all this is what I is. All I have to live for the the best memories of my life about sports. But that's the thing you've already had it. So the Suns over, but what about okay, if we are to if you're expanding it to? Al-tv all entertainments. I'm expanding it to like playing like like key. You can't go to games that. Great. I don't have to go to a six hour little league game where they can't throw the ball over the plate. Sorry, Keegan you'll be the only kid it'll be like an orphan sitting there anybody. Sorry. My dad like signed the paper. That's again, watch sports and his life deal with now. Keegan like do other turn key into an actor done. You'd wanna you'd wanna watch play sports. So I think all like all of my life. Father son memories, all all in all our sportscenter. You're you're you're so right. You're so sentimental, and you're gonna go home tonight. And be like what do I do? What the fuck am. I supposed to do. Then you're gonna kill yourself and your data be upset and really in the long run cancels out. All those all those nice memories there. I think there are a lot more to be had. I think we'll at all John. They've got to be slowed down the guy. I don't even know just it doesn't even have to be a championship. But just going to a game. Yeah. I'm out on that like to watch the game on a Taliban. So I'll take the last words smell. What do we got? KFC volley producer be a little drunk right now listening to the greatest showman soundtrack, obviously. And it made me think that the greatest show would be the perfect song for like a playoff run. Like if you're like your team's fucking like when it cut out those height videos for the play offs like a hockey team. Putting out a high video with the greatest show attached to it. I think that'd be perfect song. So I guess if I had a question, it'd be will you guys think perfect song would be for a? Radio for your genes. I. I mean, you can take it to the Bank. That's going to be March madness tournaments theme song is going to be. This is the greatest show. What would be my song? My teams hype songs boy like the mean, this is like a fucked up call, of course, you can't call in with my song. You stole it to my answer for everything. I guess what? I don't have a backup have another answer. That's it show. Yeah. But at least like years actually would be like my hype up we need to be like a fucking like depressing like disaster. Saw like you prepare for games. Like like when I'm in the sad mood. I listen to sad music. Right. Well, here we are again. I'm about to get sad. So really kicked this off a game. Out in slowly share his hope to. Actually brickley. Great. Break is depressing. Shit is perfect. That is depressing shit teams are gonna portion. I mean, I struggle to find how to not play. Hello darkness. Every time. You talk about. Yeah. But she's a break. Like, it kind of goes. I mean abortion definitely plays with my team. Don't even Lear towards it. Kylie the lyrics are sad. So it fits that. But also like at the end of brick it kind of begs they kind of get going a little bit. Oh, and that's what. That's where the jets montage over. Very busy. She was what was that? What we only fresh. Mm. When we come from. That one is super depressing. Was that the the freshman by the like, the verve pipe the verb? The verve. Freshman might be my choice that is quintessential abortion song and my life has a fan. Here should have been aboard out. We're we're going to get into dean the Dane cook. Can we play out this episode with with pressure and just nice and depressing? Dane cook is brought to you by Robin Hood. You know, Dana had a little bit of problems with his money and his investments to a little bit of a hiccup there where his half brother still eighteen million dollars from him. You want to make enough money where you can just lose eighteen million dollars. 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It's not. But it's okay. You can say built your cell phone. Young ding cook. Yeah. Man, we're riding the waves. Try and at least I don't need to wear the cans, right? Don't. Okay, I do. But you don't need to get you. All right, monster guests right now here on KABC radio. It stink cook live in the flesh on the eve of kicking off is come back door as it's called great. So that was I mean, that's that's the fucking. Oh, we're going to call it. But it's really I've been doing standup, right? Working on. What would then end up being a promoted tour? Does that bother you though, obscene his comeback comeback kind of implies downfall of some sort? I know definitely I said if I was a carpenter for the last five years, and I had not touched a, Mike. I'd be right. I'm coming back. Yeah. Right. But I've been doing gigs nonstop, and you know. Canadian tours in tore last year. This is the one that I wanted to do that. I partnered up with live nation, and we're going to like hit all the beautiful theaters in spots, and it starts tomorrow night. But there is a little extra something to it. Does it feel like that? Or like, you like you said the other towards you've been doing the past few years, that's kind of the same thing a lot more cities. And I think that, you know, this is my twenty ninth year doing stand up this spring, and I feel like more than ever before I've accomplished so many things that I've set out to do in stand up. And yet the one thing that was always lacking, even at the highest echelons, what are whether it was Madison Square gardens, or, you know, Carnegie Hall, or whatever it was always how many tools can I put in the arsenal. So that I can get to a pedigree like the guys that I loved to have longevity. So now, it's it's that mixture of observational still the energy but introspective as well. I mean, I. Yeah. I mean, I feel you've got a story to tell. Now, you know what I mean, it's not just the the observation people. Very nicely though. I mean, yeah, listen, you'd love everything to always go perfect. And you sell out the garden every fucking time you'd go anywhere and with one more. When mice as post post the garden like multiple times. So yeah. And remembering all the times that I walked by the garden pass like, you know, peak booths, you know, like all the all the the shitty crazy pre-bus knee era, New York that I used to walk by and say man, I wanna come back here and play that someday. But now I have to do a gig in the village at three thirty in the morning. Yeah. I mean, we're we're you was there a point where you were like, oh, well, this is like this is easy. Like it's gonna keep posing on my space. I'm gonna keep selling out arenas. And I'm going to be the richest of all time. It didn't. I wish I had the I wish I was a soothsayer, and I could have known that was coming. The I I started in ninety out of Boston. The first ten years where like I always say nothing happened. It was like, you know, suicide thought level nothing to where you're literally like did I fucking pick the wrong path in life. So when I saw a little bit of activity, and that was really from playing a lot of colleges I was called age kid playing colleges and findings Odio is making a little bit of coin in finding the success. But it was more the the kids coming back to those shows. I could see the force with the trees. And that's when I started promoting them online. Do you do you like resent that people kinda think of you as like over almost an overnight comedian like an internet like I never knew you like had like forty nine years. Yeah. I don't really care people think because just. Making it re- regardless of sixteen years, or whatever it was before it really liked popped. It's it I was just grateful to still be doing it past Boston year one. You know, that was hard man, you're one in Boston. And you're describing for like three or five minutes and the headliners that were in front of me at the time were there in our legends. They're like the funniest guys that maybe never made it Robin Williams level came back to Boston own the fucking city. So I came up under these guys they would squash you like a bug. If they didn't think that you could hang right. So you kind of I mean, you you didn't get wash. You you earn your way through they were probably prepared me for all the ups and the downs. And then coming to New York. He just battled tested me, even more. You know, it's like when you see guys like Sebastian on his cow go I see all the years that he put in behind the curtain, and I know the stuff that he's been told no a lot. And you know, and now he's providing the opportunity for people to say, yes, it's it's really amazing. When I see other people do it. And then go, oh, man. That's that's how I did. It right. So here's a question. You're in Boston. It's early mid pushing into late two thousands. How come this is the first time you're at borstal? We were all coming like up basically around the same time. I don't know are still Boston you mid-2000s. Like, I don't know where you were you were there. I mean, maybe maybe I'm just maybe it's revisionist history. Maybe we weren't on that level. I guess early two thousand not not on that level. But you know, it just seemed like. Word on by. Figure out. They know. Yeah. Yeah. But well, then maybe I should say late two thousands pushing to now barstool you shoulda couple up. Right. Yeah. I mean what I finally have a little downtime. At the archives of. Both. I mean, like, I was saying you wish you hope everything is always smooth. But then some bumps in the roads and drama some controversy at more than bombs. I yeah, I mean long right blown off as off the rails. But I think that's what comedy gets interesting. I was just going to say went out finally happens is I'm in the business of observing and reporting. That's what I do. So the more of these outlandish life moments, whether it was the upper echelon, and what it meant to be famous and a superstar when I wasn't ready. I was a welfare kid from Boston. I was not prepared for what that upper tier was. And then you come down the other side at some point because everything crests, and then it went into a period in my life where it was like stark in caustic and weird. So all it did once I got past all the craziness of it was give me more to observe in report on because I understood a lot more about hardship license except. Yeah. I mean. It's like, I I enjoy when bad things happen to me. Just because I think it'll be fun. Awesome. It. You know what I mean? Like, hey when I was doing the road early on. I would do these college gigs all over New England. I a shit box car Chevy cavalier, and it would always breakdown, and I'd be walking on snowy the mass pike or whatever to get to a gig. And I remember so many of those hell gigs thinking to myself, just what you said this'll be funny, maybe someday looking back on it. But right now, it it just sucks. Give you can you can see though, you know, like, okay. In five years. I'm gonna have this in my act. This'll be perfect. Oh, yeah. You can still. Yeah. You start to figure out like that's hoping is when you're putting a new show together thematically earlier, where am I at my in my life. What do I want to talk about? How do I want to approach it? And then you just start pulling or I do from some of the brace for impact moments. You know, what I mean, good or bad? And I find that the, you know last year was like a secret underground version of the tour, the no name, no promotion, I just wanted to get the temperature where where am I with my conversation, you know, in middle America with with my comedy in the feedback was so overwhelmingly great about where the materials at that. I was like fuck I gotta I gotta do a full scale tour when you're doing that. Is there some thought though of like man, I used to just like consistently sell out the garden the arena, and now I'm like working small the rooms again that may be an eagle level or just like shit. This is harder than I thought. It was going to be late into my career. So funny that it you could look at like, the FOX theatre or Radio City Music hall or the Wang and Boston ago, man, you're downgrade. But if he's do finish up at fucking Radio City, and I was like, yeah, it's crazy to even that you've even achieved enough where it was like, well, you know, said he this time not Madison Square Garden. That's sick. I feel like I I did everything I set out to do in my thirties with comedy in terms of like I played one hundred arena shows I played stadium. Joe I got to wear I the pipe dream finally led me, it was almost weirdly a relief to finally go. Don't need to do that anymore. I I'm set. I'm okay. I'm in good shape. I'm not a welfare kid from Boston anymore. I can pay the fucking mortgage. Now, I do what I want. I can say no to everything I don't have to any was that what it was. Or was the opportunities. Just not the same. Oh, no. You gotta realize I wrote away for about eight straight years of consecutively selling out anywhere that I want. Her to go. So. Guide or that. After those one hundred Rina's, the the break was really just me finally actually living some life and having some fun away from comedy which had consumed me for so many years. So a lot of movies too. I did about two movies. And then I started like even recently, I'm I'm directing and writing and producing things that are so far from my stand up. So I kind of feel like I'm always in the I'm always a student of the arts, but I just get to do stand up to make me happy now. So some of the venues that you're talking about like, our that I've mentioned it's like, it's it's you're so grateful to build a play some of these houses. Now, if you said to me, do you wanna play Madison Square Garden again, I'll tell you this. That's an event when you play the garden, it's an event it flushes show it still show. But where your mindset has to be is like completely different from the average stand up comedy show, whether it's college or or or or theater, so we're this routine is at now, I love the venues that I get. To plan. So you you in a way back to a huge one. So be it. I gotta go overhead and brother. I feel like so you were maybe viewing it almost as a positive yield and more time away a little bit time to do other things. But I like the public perception self as well, it was like, I was tired of seeing my way. Do you think that it was like a level of fatigue because I think the public would you that more as like that's why we're gonna come back toward that it was some sort of downfall or some sort of fall from grace or he can't do that anymore. And you sounds like you were like, well, I'm kind of happy like all right? If it was any of those things I'd be the first person will lean in and say, yeah, it was all those things. It was none of those things. It was at my own volition that. I said I want to step back and actually do some things that are different in life. And then bring that back to my standup. It was okay. So Carlin had this character, the hippy dippy weatherman, and he did it for about ten years. It was super lucrative, and he was famous for this. Unbelievable outrageous character, and I saw clipper Carlin this define my career up until now and where I'm going to take it. He went on the tonight show after people knew MS hippy dippy weatherman, he brought a cardboard cutout of himself. Alf as the hippy dippy weatherman any went up to the Mike. And he goes a lot of you may know, this guy he's been really funny, and he made a lot of people laugh, but this guy, and then he pushed his own picture and it fell out of frame. He goes, he's gone. I'm George Carlin. Let's start. And I remember seeing that and being like that's going to be my whole career. So after that era, I was like I can put the old ideas away. I'm not the twenty year old kid in anymore. I'm hitting late thirties. At that point. I was ready to move into what the next exciting. Venture might be interesting. That's that's impactful shit like physically like, tossing it aside being like, you know, I always tell young comics that, you know, it's funny because I was the mentor to comics. I you know, I had a lot of amazing comedians that I grew up Jerry Lewis who was one of my best friends in mentor. So I'm passing. Now this information on I don't give a lot of advice. But I always say, you gotta change you've got to be able to grow, and whatever it is that you're doing because in America, we want to keep you. His that one thing. It's like, Nope. You gotta stay in a tank top in ripple. Right, right, blonde hair, and you need to write. And I always tell people you don't you know, you can continue to kind of recreate and reboot and rebrand. I feel like the comic community is is a tough one. I mean, there's there's veterans there's rookies there's levels to it. Sure. I I know I heard that Chris rock called you after you. I I think like the first time sold at the arena or something like that. And and some speak highly of you some have their problems with you, would you say overall in the comic community you walk into a place you walk into an event with comedians or at a club. Do you feel like it's more is on you or your your cool with them like where do you stand? I can tell you this the people that I admired in that. I grew up loving and then being around, you know, coming up in Boston with the Chapelle and the Jeff Ross's and Norton's, and the they're my friends the people that I I wanted to befriend and have kind of on my journey. I feel fortunate to have had the thing that's been interesting is I'm not trying to to my own horn at this point. But I've had a lot of comics. I'm not going to name them. Come up to me in once. They get to know me go, man. I thought you were something completely different. And I misjudged you and a couple of people have apologized. You know, TJ millers of the world have come to me and said, hey, man, I fucked up I'm sorry. And and the first thing I say is like it's all water under the bridge. You know, do you really mean that there's not some level you it's like apology accepted? Fuck you guys. You know, somebody is really doing something. That's so deplorable to people. I'm totally zen. I'm into like moving onto the next experience. And I don't want to hold any any harbor anything. So if somebody puts their hand out to me, I'm quick to say, all right. Let's move on from it. Don't do it again. You know, right. Right. But I on it. But the fact is I don't want to I don't I don't play into anything negative. I just wanna go onto the next positive. He's as my kinda. Yeah. You can't be grudge year. I'm like, I don't give a fuck grudges will kill you, man. They ll away. It's like it's kind of good for business grudges in polarizing you in and shitting on you and haters. It's actually keeps you from being milquetoast. The keeps you from being the one dimensional thing where everybody goes AL. We get him. He's done rather. Be this. No, I'm saying they're saying substance to it. There's you know, let them talk. These are sold out shows that I'm going to do in some of these places that now I I get to experience for the first time. So I I'm I'm I can't complain. I wouldn't even try to find a reason to this self awareness. I think is so key is especially in that world, some interview I watched you on you said think Kevin Costner told you like when you take a big bite out of the universe. The universe bites back. Yeah. Like year riding high right now kid, but like you ready, and I think that even just knowing that or accepting that is like a big that's gonna move on Conan just had like one is like a New York Times interview or something like that where he was just like, I think it has. Quote, was why he stopped caring about opinions and stuff. Like that was his quote was every grave goes every goes on visited or something. Like, no one goes here any eventually you fade away. I mean, the awareness, though, I know, you know, not going to rehash somebody you've talked about a million times. But you going on that show with Louis to handle that the way you did is like the only way to do that. Like, the fact that you sit you sat down you did his script you did it in a way that I thought you both kind of looked good. But obviously you had to take some lumps there. I though that was like very admirable. Yeah. Yeah. That was like one of those things that when it was positioned. I just felt like, you know, what I'm ready to put this in the review mirror, and when he called and said, let's let's, you know, break bread and figure out how to do it. I was totally game. The funny thing is the internet doesn't forget in the internet thinks that everything that they read just happened. Little do they know it's like, I'm having spa days with people that you think that I was fighting with Iran. So it's it's just it's all flotsam jetsam men. You know, anybody who's believing most of that stuff without hearing it from the source. It's almost kind of feel bad from. Well. Yeah. I mean, I that would pass me off our you because even it doesn't here's why? Because. Comics fight all the time. He has very cat. What happened? What happened? I was like literally something that happens almost every night at a club in homage right Oriel territorial pissing 's and everybody's peril thinking what people do have similar concepts ideas. So everyone's hashing out at some dude. I do a bit about, you know, Bubba bottled water, and I just heard your your line about it. And then you have to figure out on shows on doing my bottled water bid tonight. That means that you can't because I'm on before it happens all the time. It was unfortunate that him, and I just had to air it out on the wall of the internet the internet almost makes it like harder for all those things like like people will be like, oh you stole that tweet from this person. Oh, yeah. The dealing craze. To I don't follow the entire internet. I don't know that he said that one thing it's it's kind of interesting as people have found their own celebrity. How many of them will then call me or we'll see each other at a club. And they go man now, I get it. I was one of the people to look and ego and like while man that sucks how did he get this? How do people understand that success? Here's what success gives you ready when you reach that high tier? It opens you up to all the people that. Hey, you, and that's what it is. And you have to remember success. It's a narrow lane you find your lane, you find your fans, and you can't be trying to meet anybody else outside of that. If people want to venture to what you're doing. That's why listen at the end of the day. I say to whoever is interested in doing comedy, the one thing that got me from you know, gigs in the middle of nowhere in front of five people two gigs in front of twenty or thirty thousand people. But only there's one word that defines all of it my whole career what has been in. It's what to come. And that's funny. If I wasn't funny, we wouldn't be sitting here. Nobody would be showing or certainly they wouldn't come back. So I I'm just so enthused to be out here with the tell it like it is tour where people can see me at my happiest and at my most enthused about the material that I'm days is it different. I know you said more introspective and whatnot. But as it, you know, the voices and the gestures and the way you always to go around. Age is or is has changed certainly forty six. I'm not I'm not going to do drop kicks anymore. Palabras bike stand or whatever I was doing. But the the energy in the the I don't know the movement. It's still there because it was never put on that was never a an act. It was I loved I loved the game. So the minute I get on stage. Even if I'm feeling kinda like low key. It gets amped up. It's I watch Chris rock when he performs his stuff at a club and you see him and he's kind of like low key. And but then he puts Chris rock into it. When he gets on a special, and that's what I do. I light it up when it's time to finally perform in terms of like where the material is introspective. But I I wanna be clear I wouldn't bring out introspective material on the road until I knew it had LPM's laughs per minute. I want the same level of laughs at you saw vicious circle or fucking retaliation or anything that I've done I want you to be able to come out in the people that came to the tour last year that provided the opportunity for me to do it this year, they overwhelmingly came and said, hey, man, I've seen eight shows. This was the fucking best show that I've seen you do. This is my favorite show when you hear that you you can't not wanna. To get back out there. Yeah. I mean aids aids you mentioned eight forty six forty six miles on you. Yeah. Well, my whole. You've been very open to about your relationship in the age difference. I I mean, what the fuck are you doing how could you keep up with that? That would be so tired. What's? I mean. She's she's she's twenty years old forty six. I mean, I would be gassed I couldn't imagine today. Twenty year old down third ready? I got way more energy than her. She's like an old lady. She's like. Seven o'clock at night. I mean, she's really honestly, it's a once in a while you meet a person who's a one in a million totally anomaly kind of person like me, I was I was at nineteen already thinking in such a mature progressive level. And I just happened to meet somebody who is in the same place that I was in. But we are equals. Yeah. So if you love somebody you a hold onto that it doesn't matter. How old somebody is? You know? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, unless they're eleven. There is a cutoff date. What about the the movies? I mean, waiting was funny and good luck shock and employee of the month. Feel like we're kind of you know, comedies and in your wheelhouse. And then captain the captain America audition comes through. Like, what happened was I had? I had blurted something on Twitter not really understanding that when they say, hey, there's a private edition means. We don't talk about who's casting. What? So I was naive. Young naive. Blurted something out that got me a little bit hot water. I wrote him in a policy letter like two days later and said, you know, learn my lesson on that. Of course, I didn't get the role. This. But my boy Chris Evans. What do you like even think when you get like a invite to audition for marvel I guess at that time wasn't moral? Right. It was iron man was the first one. It was big. They have so many shows now to this day. It's like if you see marvel on a breakdown, and they feel like it's right for you. It's I mean, you're you're excited to go to work, right? Yeah. Have you been on any other additions like that like kind of like something where he learned his lesson? The greatest audition I ever had. And it's it's a pretty wild story. It's quick Spielberg was doing the the Chicago eight movie, which I think now is coming back with somebody else doing it set in the sixties drama about the Chicago eight and the trial and all that stuff the hippies and. I win. In addition for Debbie Zane, his casting director. And I got a call two hours later, major go Spielberg wants to you tonight for dinner loved you thinks you're perfect for it. I was like I'm gonna meet it. You know, my hero like erasers of the loss. Darken ET. I was like on cloud nine two hours goes by my agent calls me, you're never going to believe this. I said what he goes movies cancelled. He's doing he's doing Lincoln or something else on the back burner. It might not even happen. So the dinner gets cancelled. But I did I did I saw him at a function two months later, and maybe the greatest conversation with a hero. I've ever had. He was he said some really nice stuff in you know, he was like keep you in mind. That second tier to getting to do with you. Then you know, what that's not so bad. The I feel like the way you promoted yourself and use the internet, and we're at the forefront of it all was obviously brilliant. But I feel like people like knock you for that almost. Really feel not now I'm asking you. I feel like people are like, well, he he was just he wasn't. He wasn't selling out. I remember like, you know, comedian that I came up with Dave across was like he's pandering because I was business my using the internet. I mean, that's what I mean. That's my point like marketing cares today. But at that time when I broke through everybody just said, oh, it's just because he knew my space. But again, if I wasn't funny. Yeah. I could could show to fire all you want. If people come in, and there's no fire. They're going to be like you asshole. And you're never. I I don't again. I don't. What other people think of me is none of my business? I don't spend a lot of time on it. Shit. What you say about me? None of my business. Until I Google my name. And then I just do not ever do that, my friend. I would say Google the name coming up this next year. And I think you're gonna see in a lot of a lot of good things because the store you even had are you doing like a tour Gazza again you doing web series head of the game that you were doing like flogging. Big now, Jeff Ross just roasted me so bad on. Did you know that piece of shit? I'm not going to say to pieces shift. He said, right? He said that but we didn't plan on making documentary. We were filming that as a fucking home-video HBO just bought there were like we'll take the footage in use it as promotional. So in hindsight he'd wanna buy fucking. Here's a whole nother. Edit of that show that we couldn't air right because we were going to be on H B O. So maybe someday the unreleased footage org. Don't don't tease. So the tour will be from now dose of temporal. He said. Yeah. Forty seven dates, Alrighty planning. It sounds like you're adding more. So plenty of chances to go see green, Dane and wraps up at Radio City, which I think will be very cool moment. Right. Unbelievable. Never never had the opportunity to play. It so dream come true moment again. Awesome to appreciate it. Thanks. Thanks for having me. It's all the sons fire. This is the one this is the quintessential I didn't know this was about that. You know what I mean? Like when you first hear it, and like nineteen Ninety-three, and you're like, oh, this is a cool like all three song. And then you're like that's about. Thought it was I thought it was just a love. So. Good bye now. So depressing. One. Fumble writers, you can't be responsible. They really like trap. Took place. Wildly depressing. Good. And then. Iphone? Flash. Just sounds like ninety. Feel the ninety. Eighty. You was this exactly. Getting ninety. Scale. Thanks. Booking? His hard drive, Amy. Let's go. Touch. Sponsors. Doc in.

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - Reggie Miller (04-01-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - Reggie Miller (04-01-19)

"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week long. They always told will he was too short to play basketball. But will never listen. We'll let his work ethic. Do the talking for him. Always in the gym always running drills will new where there was a will. There was a way and he was will. But then after a second child was born be realized the pros were all way better than him. So we'll gave up and buried his high tops in a tearful ceremony. But one day he heard that Geico could save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch which was awesome broadcasting from the Mercedes man cave Wednesday will be the last show that we will have here. This is Dan Patrick welcome to the program, which our three Dan Dan, Patrick show best and worst of the weekend. We will give you hours. We'll get to more of your phone calls. Seek seven seven three DP show Email address GPS, Dan, Patrick dot com. Couple things celebrity back at challenge presented by. Subway, you can see where we stand after the weekend. Only four of us have a chance to win the national title. Also, you can vote on the final fork the meat madness songs you have until Wednesday at noon eastern nine Pacific. And then after that when we go to Minneapolis those Thursday and Friday shows we will have the voting open at the end of Friday show. We will announce the Hebrew national championship for this year's meet MAC. Meet madness bracket challenge. The DP show store is open. March madness are t-shirt. There are flab five. You can check it out the DP store on Dan, Patrick dot com. Dan Patrick show app. By the way, the only way to vote on the meat madness songs is on the DP show up. Got a stat of the day coming up. Reggie Miller will join us as well. Let me get to Jeff and Jacksonville leads us off. Hi, jeff. How's it going today? Dp good. I I'm longtime six to one eighty. Or my best is Manchester City being formed to go to the top of the table. And then the worst is Pauly's Liverpool team winning on own-goal to go back to the top of the table. And lastly suck at joke. Boy, thank you. Jeff AJ in Cincinnati AJ. How are you? Morning morning and danettes. My best of the weekend. Adam mcquaid, open undershot. Oh my God. I would say you got to be kidding. And then the reaction from the announcers were was like they were shocked as well. Worse of the weekend course, no more Cihan and Duke after they got lemonade by Michigan state in the league. Thanks. All right. Thank you A J Jeff in Detroit. Hi, jeff. Hey, Dan, Dan is now alive on our live. Thank you a look back. I love that. Listen, first of all been rocking with you for about seven years now and the safe to say that I'm Dan fan. I say, I gotta go check my meat, right? Get all Mahal was looking at me. Like, I'm crazy. So I explained to them terminology. Neak madness was such small wonderful funny thing around here, man. So dig best of the weekend is going to be missing the state winning. I love Michigan statement. And I've been a big fan of this for a long time. 'cause though is a great coach worse than the weekend is going to be me not being able to see the gang and looking up looking up the highlights on YouTube, and there's just Zion talking all over the team. And then you might sneak in a state play like who really want and Dan quick question for you new Nick nine for Jiang's heart. Call him the satellite these never outta range and his coverages va- is what's the name is bad. So which think about that? All right, the satellite. Thank you. Maybe if he shaved his beard, then maybe we could look at a new nickname. But as long as he's got that beard. There's actually a guy. I don't know what country he's from. Or in buddy, all of his art has to do with a profile of James harden, and all of it all. He he he's dedicated his artwork to James harden and his face and his beard, and that's it. But it looks great. It's really interesting stuff. But I I was reading that over the weekend. More phone calls coming up. We'll give you our best and worst to the weekend. I gave the win totals the projected win totals this season is according to Las Vegas, and this is done before the draft. Also, there is still speculation here. I'm not let's not kid anybody here. I know that we feel like Kylo Murray is going to Arizona because you bring in cliff Kingsbury is going to bring in his guy and his guy Pearce to Bikaner. There is still an I'm not going to say, it's growing sentiment. But they're they're still conversations of Ken the raiders move up and get the number one pick. Now this happens during the draft, folks. It's rare when something is already decided this far out. It really is. I mean, I can go back to Ryan leaf and Peyton Manning. They had discussions. Heated discussions in the colts organization on who to take leading up to the draft because it wasn't a consensus to take Peyton Manning over Ryan leaf. It's not a consensus. I would be shocked if it's a consensus in Arizona that this is what we need to do. Because if you say to me. You got to give up the number one pick. You're probably going to keep Josh Rosen Issur quarterback. But you get three first round picks. If you're Irizawa would you do that? Because that that's what we're always going to look back on and say was it worth it? Did they make the right move? Because we've had teams who've traded out of the top spot. We've had teams who've jumped up to get a quarterback in know the eagles. Did it the Kansas City Chiefs did it with Mahomes Houston's done it teams know what they want? But it's a game of poker. That's played. I'm not gonna let you know now. And if you're the raiders, I do think that you have maybe a couple more swings where you're gonna go up there and see if you can get him. I really believe the raiders want Cuyler Murray, and they might want him more than Zona does just a gut feeling. I would take color Murray from Arizona. I think he's a special player and. Then maybe you get you're not going to get a first round pick for Josh Rosen. And that might tell you everything you need to know about going into battle next year, which is Rosen unless you believe differently. But in the league telling you what they think of Josh Rosen because you're not getting a first round pick right now. And I wonder if Bruce Arians was still in Arizona would Bruce Arians stay with Josh Rosen. And I do believe he would and not Cuyler Murray, just a gut feeling there. But that's just something we got a long way to go before the draft. It's rare when things are all buttoned up because now you're going to start to hear more and more. I, you know, I told you about the Duke quarterback where scouts said, hey, this transition makes the most sense for the giants. Eli likes the kid out of out of Duke same quarterback and cut cut cliff. Their friends ally worked out with Daniel Jones in the off season, and he's more athletic than ally. So. You know, the scouts present. And everything to me saying I wouldn't be surprised if the giants took him, and they can get him later if they want. But if you're the cardinals do you look at this as an opportunity to refresh your entire franchise with talent, which is pretty devoid class Campbell all those guys Honey badger left over the past four years, and you can get three first round draft choices to surround your quarterback or help you defense for your quarterback. And you only get this chance once going back to when the chargers passed on Vic, and they gave it up. They got Tomlinson and breeze. Yeah, I know. But it's one thing to have draft picks of the Cleveland Browns have proven it's nothing to draft. Well, which the Cleveland Browns have proven that. They don't mclovin how crazy would be if another quarterback rose like Tom mcshea said the raiders also loved drew lock like what if he went top five with that the way quarterbacks are with that blow your mind. Yes. It would cause drew lock might have the best arm in the draft. But he I just thought he was wildly inconsistent. This. Yeah. Here. And this is when he had the spotlight on him because he year ago this same scout. Who's told me most of this stuff in been right? All the time said he loved drew lock ski scouted him. Love drew lock love what he saw any didn't think he took that next step where he got that much better. And he didn't stand out this year at all is it possible. Someone's pulling a Blake Bortles where there's another guy, you know, a mystery guy, and I don't know. How did that work out? Remember a member? How shocking that was at the time because they didn't even scout him. He was shocked. The Browns projected win total is nine. You better get to nine. Because you got to seven eight in one last year the patriots eleven wins. And I was wondering about this do realize the patriots who are eleven and five last season had the highest win total at eleven this year. So they're atop the win total board before the start of the season for the fourth consecutive year and the tenth time since twenty two thousand four. The patriots are a best thirteen three and one in the over department for victories since two thousand two. The day passed at of the day and day here. Here comes that. What stat of the day? Time for the danettes best and worst to the weekend. More phone calls coming up. Reggie Miller will join us as well. By the way, rock auto dot com. All the parts your car or truck will ever need. And you don't go anywhere. You don't have to wait in line jump to phone driving. 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Combining for fifteen three pointers forty two for Edwards in a losing effort worst the weekend also settling night after big block by Texas Tech's to Rico as with fifty two seconds left officials missing him stepping out of bounds before tossing the ball back in zags would have gotten the ball down sixty eight sixty two who knows what happened to that point, mclovin. While the bestest sorta in progress because I'm not sure if it landed yet, but Bryce Harper hit a very long home run last night. Yeah. I don't know orbit satellites trying to track right? I maybe James harden, his nickname. Yeah. Height Bryce Harper. Satellite. Hits it into another galaxy maniac. Well, how do you like me as a baseball fan? It's going to be so annoying. Okay. By worse is the guys Purdue Carson Edwards. Come on the guys around will to score one hundred point night, come on. I think his teammates scored what was the final of that game. Was it one sixty nine to one forty-seven when wilt score one hundred. So check that box score. You can I know guy. Rodgers had like twenty five or six or something. See no counter best worst the weekend. Well, my best, Dan as you mentioned earlier. The cure got into the rock and Roll Hall of fame, and I'm a huge cure fan have slightly love them and Robert Smith is the lead singer. And he's he really is the cure, right? He started the genius behind that of band. And this is interview that he gave on there on the red carpet at the award ceremony. Nice to meet you. Hi, congratulations. The care rock and Roll Hall of fame. Inductees dozen nineteen are us excited as I am. Oh, yeah. I love that. Dude. Man. It sounds like a Saturday Night Live skit. Hi, congratulations. The kid rock and Roll Hall. Nineteen are us excited as I am, bud. Sounds but note. He walks over there. He's already like scratching his space. And you know, he's got like the smeared lipstick and big hair pale a makeup. He does like sort of like, you just see his is a look at it. Like, oh my God. Happening. Food is cited to come up with that pale makeup. When did that be in eighties? I wanna cure got started. He'd been doing that since eighty four he three probably I know where came from. But. Yeah. I didn't. I never understood that. But yeah, he does that Jack white does the whole Goth kind of thing. Well, it just pale like you're supposed to look like you were dead at first I could be completely making mission accomplished. But yeah, I don't know if I mean, David Bowie, certainly did it. Yeah. But Bowie wore makeup. I didn't know I didn't look at it. As maybe the same as what the lead singer, the cure or or Jack light. Yeah. Pails? Did you have a is? Is that your best or your worse? That's my best pharma best. You have a worst assist. Well, my worst does that ahead. Michigan state beating Duke, but it was basically useless because all of my other picks were so terrible. It's like that's what March madness is when you do a bracket is all of these unbelievable. Lows in one high really had that one paulie Bessemer Luik Jared Harper the guard for Auburn he was eleven for eleven from the free throw line yesterday. And they none of them touched ram went back and looked at them. They had a little series, none of even touch room. And then caches Winston the guard for Michigan state. He's a junior. He looks like he's about thirty seven years old. I love him. He's awesome. But I thought the interview with him yesterday is like is that his dad who's the oldest member? Granville waiters. Oh, you receding hairlines Ono. It it had done rec- at gone. Yeah. No hairline. But they call him grandpa waiters in college. Who else looked like? Greg Oden looked like he was about forty when he was a freshman in high school. He was up there. Cd west tweets best Golden State blows out Charlotte by forty seven worst Duke in a nail biter busted my bracket. Captain keystone best of the weekend. My Orioles taking two or three from the Yankees. My better the Oregon ducks advancing to their first final four in program history. This Sabrina I n s q I believe her name is a lot of fun. She's the walking triple double nearly had another triple double. TJ Callo Michigan state fan. Here's I is. The most exciting player ever the first player that I said oh bleep when they passed it to him. Not after he scored I've watched hoops for thirty five years. He is sick. Yeah. We're wondering about that. Has there ever been a player in college basketball history? Who's had this this impact this excitement? There've been better players this excitement like Zion Williamson. Yes, mclovin. Got a couple of tweets an Alan Iverson nomination of its Carter nomination. But I don't really remember them being quite like this. I was I don't remember Vince because Antoine Jamison, I think sort of shared the headlines with Vince Carter on that team. That was that was a fun North Carolina team. But I Michael Jordan certainly was and was no he wasn't a highlight reel like Zion is. Grant Hill was great. Now as far as he came in as a freshman. He was great highlight reel, but he was overshadowed by Christian Laettner, Bobby Hurley anything with the fab five or those UNLV teams were those more teams and individuals. They were teams Larry Johnson was exciting Weber was exciting. But you know, Larry Johnson came from junior college in there. I mean, you're talking about a freshman coming in and being the star from start to finish. He was must see TV trae young was a lot of fun. But trae young struggled there at the end of the season is freshman season. You know, mellow was mellow sort of became great right before vary is in the tournament. But you know, he wouldn't have won a title without Gerry McNamara in there and some of the other role players Syracuse, but mellow mellow was unstoppable offensively. I didn't think he was a great player. I just thought he was crate shooter. Unbelievable score not trying to think if there's anybody else in there. Chris Jackson who became Makhmudov due RAV. He averaged thirty points a game. As a freshman and had an unbelievable crossover. Maybe so quick so quick trying to think if there's anybody else talking about recently herald, Niner you no, no, I've just tried slam dunk kings. I'm trying to think of somebody could swill, you know, when they call you baby Jordan, boy, you better be a highlight. And he couldn't shoot and he could jump but couldn't shoot and Dominique never really had much of a college. Lenny bias was probably a better college player highlight wise than Dominique lay magnify. Anybody's anybody's was really crazy. He was grown, man. He was grown ass. Man. I Kyle in Wisconsin. Then we'll take a break. Reggie miller. Will join us coming up high Kyle. What do you have for me today? Hey. Longside sixteen to be. The weekend. Be was Christian yelich in his performance over the cardinals this weekend hitting a home run in four straight games. And they walk off victory on a double for him on Sunday this weekend was definitely that game on Sunday afternoon. Seeing Winston breakway from trade Jones and just try Jones reaction to the heartbreak of that loss or it's tough to see. All righty. Thank you. Yeah. I'm feeling pretty good about guy. And I said, you know, I wouldn't be surprised he won the MVP the nationally, Paul Goldschmidt. And then all of a sudden Christian yelich has a home run in the first four games. Like, oh, that's right is still pretty good. Take a break. Reggie miller. Will join us coming up next year. This is the Dan Patrick show. Hey, it's shaggy. Now, the DNB also we going over it's time for the second half of the season to get underway. 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Aga- more phone calls coming up eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. Twitter not p show, and you can watch. We are streaming live and for free on be our live dot com Bleacher report, and you can also want to an audience to thirty nine direct TV. Reggie miller. Joining us on the program. Hey, film ridge. I feel great. But I do have to say this just in terms of basketball what a season of disappointment. Obviously Laurent joining the Lakers, we had high expectations personally, I think you, and I we've talked about this. We didn't expect when a championship this year. But we certainly didn't think they were not going to make the playoffs so huge disappointment. And then last night, you know, Zayn Williamson Duke, coach K R J Barrick, Cam reddish. I think most of us had them certainly in the final four and a lot of people's bracket. Probably have been busted with Duke losing to Michigan state. Just in terms of basketball, a season of disappointment in my eyes that play that was drawn up by coach K. I I'm assuming they drew up a play for R J Barrett. And I guess to most people surprise it didn't go to John Williamson we have the benefit of hindsight here. But did it make more sense going to RJ Barrett? A more pure score than Zion. As opposed to just making something happen. Well, the way Zion had it going. I would have put the ball in his hands for him to make a play. If you remember it was RJ Barrett's three that tied the ballgame. We'll how did he get that three? The ball was in Zayn Williamson's hand and defense tilted and shifted towards ion as he made that move the over healthy, overplayed and Barrett got that three so not necessarily you have to put the ball in Zion. Williamson tan for him to score. But I would have put it in his hands for him to make it play rather that scoring or assisting in finding one of his teammates again you and I we can play Monday morning quarterback. Which actually we are doing literally. But it's hard for us to question. Coach K they were in the moment. Living in the moment. And he felt that that was the correct situation for RJ db. But personally, I would have put the ball in Zion. Xian's hands allowed him to create a player rather firm, self or for steamy? Can you think of somebody more exciting for one year, then John Williamson in college basketball? In today's age of YouTube, Instagram likes Twitter. No he came with a built in package. He came, you know, he's a YouTube generation type player, and we've all seen the dunks from his eight you circuit from his club teams highschool. So that was built in and traveling with him to to do. So no for one year the hype and how about this. He's lived up to the hype. Now, I will say this. There was so much hype behind the brawn James coming out of high school, and he has lived up to the hype, you know, being on the cover of Sports Illustrated, and all that but social media wasn't around like this for King James so no for one year for high school player to be viz dominant. Because to me he was the player of the year in college basketball as a true freshman. The hype was real and. He lived up to the hype. Is he the best player in the the most exciting? Okay. Best player in Duke history. No. Know if he stayed another two three years possibly, but that goes too late. And of course, it goes the Leitner then you've got to throw Hurley Grant Hill Elton brand. I mean JD Rettig there's a list of unbelievable college Duke players that have put a fabulous number exciting. Oh, yeah. Jay williams. And he look if he would've stayed a couple more years, he probably would have been probably would have surpassed Leitner, but it's hard for me to leap, how Zion leapfrog all those people. We just mentioned for one season is either the most typed in the most exciting out of all those players that we just mentioned absolutely the most athletic. Absolutely. But he can't be the best player in Duke history. No, he's the most exciting. But I think Grant Hill is the best player best. You know, basketball, Christian leaders the most accomplished. Grant Hill or a hold on. So what's the criteria? Are are you just going? Are you are you doing in the NBA? No, no, no. No. No. I mean, if I throw in the NBA, then Grant Hill certainly better than Christian later. Correct. You're talking about college career. No one will supplant Christian Leitner. No. But this is about athleticism. This is the best. The most talented player at Duke in history. I would probably go with grant first. And then probably okay if you could place Zion right now in the NBA for his own good. Do you want to put him in Cleveland, Phoenix, New York or Chicago? I would probably put him in Phoenix out of all those places the infrastructure is there you've got an up and coming superstar in Devon Booker just to the stability at head coach. Is there the other places you mentioned New York LA Cleveland the drama in those organizations? I know they're two three r major markets, but as much as I love the Bron and everything that's going on. With Luke Walton was to me is not fair. There's so much expectations and drama the surround playing with the Lakers right now. But it is a story franchise along with the Knicks. Knicks suck for the last fifteen twenty years. I absolutely to put him in New York. But I would put him in Phoenix because you've got deonte atan a big, man. So the. Infrastructure is there for him to succeed. I think he would be great in the valley of the sun. They play an uptempo style which fits fits his game. I think they could plug him right in at that small four powerful position. And I think he would fit in great with Booker in Aden. So Phoenix would be my first choice if you'd in terms of infrastructure, if you're going for hype and slayer, I would go with either coast, Lakers or New York. I would I wouldn't put him in Cleveland. They look they've been fortunate to get LeBron and Kyrie Irving number one picks. They don't they don't deserve another number one pick. I'm sorry. They don't Pierce came out and said giants one of the top fifty players right now in basketball. NBA? This time the truth is not correct come on. I mean, he's he's good. But what he was doing as a freshman. He was playing bully ball. I mean, he was bigger and stronger than a lot of a lot of upperclassmen in the college game. He won't be able to play bully ball at the pro level. So he's going to have to define his game. We did see a couple of jump shots a couple of threes and their game versus Michigan state. But that has to be a consistent thing athleticism is off the chart. I get that. But they we've got guys in in the G league that are athletic. They can't make that Knicks leap into the NBA. So I get the athletes schism, and I get the dunk. But now it's time for him to define his game. Get into lab find a coach let trainer he's got a shave off some weight he does at the lose weight. And he's got to get a consistent jump shot. We. Do we do have players in the NBA that have been stars without jump shots? And we may have one that could be an MVP this season and onto Toco, and Ben Simmons comes to mind as an all star. But Zion is much more athletic in my opinion than those two guys Greek freak is different because of his length. But he's he's gotta get a jump shot. So I'm not gonna put it in the top fifty right now. But maybe fifty one how about that? Reggie Miller hall of Famer he's still on the call for the warriors in the Lakers tonight. Okay. When you Thursday Thursday when you see this game on the schedule at the beginning of the year. Poems were sweaty. I'm like, this is going to be great because you got LeBron James versus Draymond green curry, and Katie what a done. Okay. And how what time do you spend on the negativity like looking at the Lakers for whatever this was this season. And then how do you fix that? How much a part of this game on Thursday. We'll you spend with the Lakers coaching free agents. Lebron turning thirty five you know, where this franchise is headed. I will that will probably be early talking points. I would say first quarter talking points while people are still tuned in. But the rest of the recorders will be all about the warriors. And then going for a three peat where the story should be them focusing on, you know, getting that number one see 'cause they're the dogfight right down with the nuggets for that number one seat out west, which personally, I don't think they really care about that. Because they feel that they're the better team, and they can go into mile high and win one or two games. So they're not really focusing on that. But I think their quest for three Pete. That's what quarters two three and four will be all about the warriors. It's easy to jump on the Lakers and say what if in the Ron this and Luke Walton mad and magic and Pelinka I get it. Those are four first quarter, you know, talking points. But this story is not about this game and stories out about the Lakers. It's it's sad. But it's all about the warriors. In a quest for three Pete. That's the bigger picture in my opinion. If McWilliams fired is that job, a coveted John. Absolutely. You've got LeBron James a top five player of all time, in my opinion, and the potential of getting another superstar absolutely, but the grass is not always greener. Waned if it goes bad in. If you do. Yes. But that goes with it. I mean, you don't get any credit Tyler took over for David black one a championship. And I mean, even though he got fired later. Yeah. But that comes with the territory that comes with coaching the king. I don't know if it's coveted job. I don't covered. A Lakers championships is the Lakers. Yes. It's coveted though, you'll hear tie Lou. You'll hear Mark Jackson. You'll hear Jason Kidd. So yeah, you'll hear all these guys name. I'm sure one of the van Gundy's if not both will be mentioned everyone will line up to to be in line to be coached by dako- coach buy. Yes. Who's coaching who? Yeah. I don't know. I didn't. I didn't let me let me just say. This is not right though. It's not right. If Luke Walton gets fired because they didn't give Byron Scott. The long leash even though they told them he was going to develop the young players, and he got the boot. And then the same thing. But Luke, you know, he develops these young guys. And then, you know, the magic goes out and gets LeBron. And then now all of a sudden he can't coach it's ridiculous. I I don't think it would be fair to fire Luke Walton. But on the other hand, I know it's a business. Lebron says, hey, he's not getting fired then he's not getting fired. Ooh vu. True. But have you come on? He's not going to. Yeah. Yeah. I'm moving moving into a new man cave here in a couple of weeks. What where what? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't run it by sorry. Where's the man cave? Going to be located at M I invited couple of miles from here. Well, do you need some help decorating like moving, you know, some of the memorabilia over I mean, I would love for you the first three in the building. But I don't know if that's going to be possible. I gotta make visit. I gotta make it. Visit when I'm out when I'm all, right? You're going to you're going to love you're gonna love this kind of just letting you know, it's gonna be crazy that this man, Kei is awesome. But this next man cave. Ridiculous. Yeah. I think about done with so. Yeah. Congratulations. Congratulations. Well deserve. It'll be great. So we we have the Reggie Miller. Autograph basketball in the Reggie Miller. Autograph jersey that will be making the trip over to the man cave. And soon to be a Reggie Miller. Three point boom. Baby onsite whenever that will be coming in to lay some threes and bring up ping pong table in there too. I am getting a ping pong table to. Okay. All right. All set of. All right. Have fun with the Lakers in the warriors read. Hey, I am so excited. Lebron James call coups Lonzo ball. Where is Lonzo ball? He got. He's spray day January probably mean with the lawyer somewhere talking about bollandbranch, shoes and recouping some money. He's probably doing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Boy didn't see that one coming. I thought big baller. I thought they were gonna fill Disney thought they're going to buy Nike. You know? That's that's how successful were taking over the world. Oh my goodness. Big plan. Yeah. Reg will be on the call with Kevin Harlan Thursday night. He will sell the law. The warriors. 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Download new episodes of these shows and more every week podcast one sports. Stay tuned for sixty seconds of eight me news headlines right after this podcast. The always told will he was too short to play basketball. But will never listen. We'll let his work ethic. Do the topping for him. Always in the gym always running drills will new where there was a will. There was a way and he was will. But then. After a second child was born. He realized the pros were all way better than him. So we'll give up and buried his high tops in a tearful ceremony. But one day he heard that gyco could save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch, which was awesome. Thanks to Chris Harrison, the host of the bachelor Bruce Pearl auburn's head coach Doug Gottlieb from Fox Sports. And of course, Reggie Miller. Their contributions today this day in sports history. It was one hundred years ago today that the final game of the Stanley Cup was cancelled because of an epidemic of influenza no winner declared in the series between Montreal and Seattle. The Seattle Metropolitans. Back in nineteen nineteen. Let me see. So they never finished it up. So I guess there. There's a vacancy there in one thousand nine hundred point they couldn't awaited four or five weeks and get everybody together. I don't know let the flu I I don't know. Leo Hartnett of the Chicago Cubs broke the altitude record in nineteen thirty on this day. He caught a baseball dropped from the Goodyear blimp. Eight hundred feet over Los Angeles. Is there any video of that in one thousand nine thirty can't find any? Okay. Nineteen seventy-two baseball went on strike lasted eleven days. Nineteen Ninety-two NHL went on strike this team sports history. Nineteen Ninety-six the US President Bill Clinton throughout the first ball preceding the game between the Kansas City, Royals and Baltimore Orioles. We were looking at pictures of Jason Witten Jason Witten is got a fresh cut or maybe it's the original cut that he had a few years ago, but he steps out of the Monday night booth that he's all business because he looks like Jason stefon now not Jason Witten. And then we're looking at best hair that you've acquired later in life. Like, Matthew, mcconaughey? Hey, he's a one CD. If you're if you believe that he may have added Harris, his he added here, Jeremy Piven from entourage is the one. Seed. Who else would be in there, Wayne Rooney had it for a while? Wait, you had it for a while. It kind of just let it be for that. He is. I don't think he's completed the process. Or locker Scott Brian Urlacher, did well but earlier I didn't try to surprise anybody. He just had a sponsorship. And he's like, yeah. Yeah. I got I got hair. We didn't win win went the opposite way of Brian Urlacher. He didn't have it. Then he bought them. And then he got rid of it. Now, he's coming back. Then people look at him. Like, he's really means business. You've got his hairpiece. They put to the side really means business plan for the Cowboys. Yes. Mclovin. People focus on Tom Brady. A lot to say, really. Oh, yeah. That's always been a thing is he not that he's where to pay. But that he's gotten a lot of help. Really? I never noticed that. I know somebody said that people said, I have no idea. But I it changes his haircut. Like every six months, though. I don't know how you do that. Unless you like there would be people I knew who had different lengths of a hairpiece in our business, and then you would go then you'd have people say, no, you can't have a hairpiece like he gets haircuts, but he would have different hairpieces and in look natural. Yep. I'm looking at Steven Seagal. He may have been better off letting good. Nature. Tickets course, bet did you see the video when Steven Seagal is he's fighting these guys like I think he's putting on a clinic if the demo yes. Yeah. But it, but it looks like it would have been out of Napoleon dynamite when listen kit who's in there when he's fighting the guy, and he just got a slaps him to the side. I into Pauline dynamo. Here's four slobs. Acting like Steven Seagal in the middle of an action movie in nineteen eighty eight. And they're falling all over the place and he's moving at about one mile an hour. Yeah. Yeah. He looks like he's very serious here where he's fighting off these guys and. Whatever happened to him. Steven Seagal make any movies anymore for Justice. There's something like that under siege. And they were all sort of the same premise, right? But was there a great Steven Seagal movie? And I'm I'm saying great defined great that that you legitimately were entertained by it, they're usually three words above the law. 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NFL Week 14 Sports Betting Picks: Monday Night Football - Minnesota Vikings at Seattle Seahawks

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NFL Week 14 Sports Betting Picks: Monday Night Football - Minnesota Vikings at Seattle Seahawks

"That thou board. Never will. I bet you twenty bucks. I can't look for the end of the day. He'll fifteen grand how pay. Pay. That's men his Manny. It's the board podcast. Really, really like. I won't bright back for stone. I could still pick winners, and I can still make money for all kinds of people back home, and why mess up a good thing airs pain insider and Todd welcome in to the board podcast powered by fed online dot AG NFL week, fourteen Monday night football, the main topic at hand here. But before we get to the game between the Vikings and the and we recap the weekend. That was I'm fearless leader firm and joined as always by my steam colleague and co host the perpetually sick pain insider, I'm not sick asshole. Debatable before we got on your hawking up along. You're talking about Zych Cam this zinc that I'm starting to worry about you mean, you're too young to be a part of the seems it's a long season. Fortunately, it's almost over good grief. I mean, football's been awesome, the NFL of bene- battle. It is. It is definitely been grind. But I talked to my injury source. Of course, we'll have Dr Chow to break down all things NFL. But I talked to somebody injury sources down in your neck of the woods. And I hear you've been playing through a little bit of pain that may be limiting your keyboard all of your digits on your shooting hand, not quite work. I was telling you this about before the season start. I was playing playing basketball, and I got fouled I hack crushed. In. My thumb was just messed up, and I just figured sprain some ligaments and after few weeks went away then like two weeks ago like an asset. I just crack my fingers crack my thumb in. It is just been killing me ever sent so playing through injury. There figure out what's what's happening. The the keyboard strokes aren't as official. Well, I was going to say, I know the follow up question because I have to ask because I know our listeners are going to want to know when pain inside or goes out there to play a little pick up basketball. I mean, are we talking like a court on the beach where it's like rough and tough in some of the sketch your neighborhoods are you going to like the YMCA for the old man's game? Are you trying to beat up on some of my compatriots JCC just give us a little visual for the kind of pick-up game? You're participating in back in the day based on proximity. I was one of the the lone non members of the crew. But yeah, the JC I would frequent that. They would try to charge me five bucks. Yeah. I can't. I can't you knock in moistens yarmulke pick up game. So that that wasn't overly competitive. I was a little little better than that that range when you get out to the pork. It's it's a little different vibe more of a just kind of stand there in shoots open jump shots. Grab rebound that kind of thing depending on what type of shape you're right during the summer little better shape coming right out of summer in football season where you're spending sixteen hours in a chair, then then you're kind of delegated just grabbing rebounds hidden open shots. You're the Mike Miller type sitting out side hoping to get an open jumper to just have to make sure you knock it down. So keep game. But hey nature. Speaking of Mike Miller, don't mention that name after the yield the Bockel a couple of weeks ago. Oh, the battle moons and scars that plague all of us as sports bettors. But we could go into that for days minutes hours. I mean, you name it do want to say to our listeners out there. And all you folks, listen, you guys have been great with your five star reviews on I tunes over there. Read us, promote us share the gospel of bet the board for the National Football League college football. This thing continued other contests promotion offering homeless. Yes, we're gonna do two winners. This time for the holidays. One one would we'll call it the Hanukkah and Christmas presence where we're gonna we're gonna deliver. Both so get in there. Leave your five star itunes reviews in about a week or two we will announce to winners again it's at random. So if you leave your five star review leave a nice little comment, you're automatically entered for the prizes. We'll give away to this time for the holiday season. It's a nice bet. The board swag pack with visa gift cards and deer. Pain. Insider in a festive mood festive not festivus festive mood this holiday season. No polls will be given out. Gonna go. They're giving away the goodies. All right. What we always do on Monday to recap the weekend that was kind of go through. What did we learn type segment the good, the bad and the young -ly and pain? I mean, I want to give you the floor because you were part. I mean just by proximity to a Miami miracle yesterday against the New England Patriots. What a game what a time to be alive. I don't know like that result or not if you notice, and I think a lot of I don't know how many people are tracking line movement. But there was like this manual adjustment. Friday evening where it went from like seven and a half eight and a half right to ten at some of the sharper shop. So while the patriots were certainly the public side one of the sharpest teaser legs of the entire week was the New England Patriots. So wasn't a fan of Tom Brady's executing there before the half after the blocked punt where he over sales Chris HOGAN there and then takes a sack and you get no points. But I thought it was in the bag so. I don't think we're gonna make the playoffs. Anyway. So it's going to be all for not lost money. Basically. I that was the delay of the teaser that would have closed things out and cash that was a tough one to swallow. I know there was someone on Twitter, and I'm gonna butchers name or completely forget his name altogether. But he tweeted Dave Mason in myself saying, hey, that was probably a great result for both of you. And while the dolphins did get a win. I don't know if it's gonna result in the playoffs. So that I would have rather taken. My teaser win there. Understandable. Yeah. Definitely one of the more improbable finishes. We see not only of week fourteen obviously. But maybe the entire season because the team like the patriots typically executes that a little better. I'm still trying to figure out how rob gronkowski's your last line of defense knowing that he moves about as well as a cruise ship does in a harbor as you saw. Trying to make the tackle late. But hey, Bill Belichick smarter the package. It's the package that was the thing. I think that was the the problem with they went hail Mary package until gronk is in on that and mcchord is out. It's Ben Ben way for while. But the package was the problem. Right. I don't know why he's out there. Like think about Ryan tannehill. He's got the join issue. And then he had the ankle sprain. Like, he was never. And I mean ever getting it seventy yards in the air into the end zone. So the hail Mary package and the hell Mary were completely out of the question. So I I don't know why. But listen tip your cap to the dolphins. It looked like they knew what they were doing right. It was in rhythm. It was executed. Perfectly gates designed it. So is three best players three most dynamic weapons. All punched it on the same play. It looked pretty good. So I don't think I mean certainly was lucky but it was executed. Well, it makes me makes me wonder if the patriots would have been better served just trying to score touchdown instead of kicking a field goal to go five. But hey, I'm not going to sit here and break down the math or claim that I know exactly what went through the process, but would have been crazy. If we saw that endgame finish executed in the hook and ladder in the Steelers game, which came up a little bit short. But before we get into some of the bad in the because there was plenty of it. Some other things paying the jumped out to me Andrew lock nice bounceback performance against Houston. Texans secondary that we had major questions about going into the game twenty seven forty one almost four hundred yards. Two touchdowns. Second game this season where he's towards the Texans. And for whatever reason the Texan just no answer for TY Hilton hundred ninety nine yards. Thankfully to argue. Jonathan Joseph isn't very good. No. I don't think anybody on that back end in you want to talk about a bumbling idiot. I mean, I'm sure we could go on and on about Bill O'Brien, but we may have to try and let him void the firing squad forty Niners. They did. Well, not only. Only on the field. But obviously by the listeners as well. Winning outright is a four point dog George kit a hell of a half seven catches for two hundred ten yards. Not sure where he was in the second half. They held Denver to less than four yards per play. But what were some of the other things that you saw that you felt were pretty promising from the week that was in the National Football League. It's the Cleveland Browns, baby. It's all about the brownies win three out of four the game. They do lose eight point two yards per play on offense. Freddie kitchens is an absolute monster. And I'm glad we're ahead of the curve on that. I mean, he came out this week. And and was like, hey, we're going to use Sean Perriman and everyone down like you had twelve heads. And what do you right out of the gate just play action deep the big f you'd everyone who thought he was messing with