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The MMA Reporters: Episode 6

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The MMA Reporters: Episode 6

"It is Wednesday February twentieth. Two thousand and nineteen. Welcome back to another episode of Yemane reporters. And when you do shows like this one when you do shows like the one I do Monday when you do shows like on the bad guy. It's always fun when news breaks right before you do the show doesn't happen often. But when it does when there's fresh news out there new news, if you will that's always very exciting. And that's what happened this morning. So we've found out at around ten thirty AM eastern time. You have see sent out a press release that George rush Saint Pierre, arguably the greatest mixed martial arts. Fighter of all time. The pride of Saint is adult Quebec Canada the face of Canadian MA, the former you have see welterweight and middleweight champion was set to hold a press conference. Tomorrow in Montreal Thursday morning Montreal to make a special quote unquote announcement moments later, Ben web, dwell of LDS in Quebec a sister station of. Yes. PIN by the way, the French Canadian version of ESPN and Quebec announced that George was expected to announce his retirement, I have confirmed the multiple sources that that is in fact, true George saint-pierre tomorrow at ten thirty A M eastern time, we'll nounce his retirement from mixed martial arts. According to my sources, he tried to secure fight against Libya. Magomedov once it became clear that that was not going to happen that it would not materialize. He decided at thirty seven years young that it was time to walk away. Of course, the last time we saw him in action was November of two thousand seventeen you have see to seventeen when he defeated Michael bist Bank, and you'll call he stayed a beat longer in the cage that night to say goodbye to the fans to knowledge the fans in the end that ended up being his final. As an active UFC fighter inside, the cage. So we have a lot to talk about here this afternoon. It is a pleasure once again to be joined by the man in the shirt, Jeff wagon Heim, the great Jeff wagon Heim and also returning is the one and only Greg Rosenstein, and this is very fun guys because this is sort of like the heartbeat of ESPN dot com slash Emma. May you two gentlemen, kind of set the table for everyone? So first off Jeff welcome back. Good star. Gerald's of emotional day. It is emotional or saint-pierre. It's like it's the end of an era. I will share my motions in a moment. But let's just say Hello to Greg as well. Greg. How are you? I'm doing great. Hopefully, no more news breaks because this is the entire section right here. So yeah, that's back. I was gonna add when you when you said, it's really cool. When news Rex before one of these shows, it always seems to happen that news breaks as soon as you finish. That's right. That's like this is like this is where we're we're we're playing with house money here. So I want to talk to you guys about what just came out this news. Just broke. I just wanna set the table. I for my perspective. No secret that I am from Montreal. No secret that George saint-pierre growing up along with the laws. Oh where my favorite fighters before. I started doing this for a living. I've said on many occasions that you have C sixty five when he beat Matt Hughes to finally become the world champion is my favorite fight of all time. I went to champs sports bar on San Laurent street in Montreal with some friends who nothing about Emma, man. I tried to convert them into MA fans, we watched it the place exploded like the Canadians had just won the Stanley Cup. George saint-pierre means a lot to me. I can't I'm a human being. I can't I can't hide that. And it has been honored covers career. So to your point Jeff, I am a little motion. I think a lot of thought that this could happen to actually see it become a reality. And and and and I hope to be there tomorrow at the press conference. Thank you ESPN for giving me that opportunity. It's an end of an era, and it's not often that arguably the greatest ever walks away. And so this gives us some time to reflect and so let me. Ask you when you heard about the news. What did you think I thought good for him? That's what I thought. I know that you mentioned that Habib fight was sort of hanging out there, and it would have been great to see something like that. But I really thought good for George. I mean, this is a guy who who walked away from the sport when he was on top. And how many people do that? It's a pretty rare thing in combat sports really in sports in general, but in combat sports in particular, and then he made the decision to come back when he fought against bist being and and how many times have someone who walked away come back. And then they get exposed their their their return. We just saw it last weekend. Cain Velasquez comes back from a long long absence. And and seconds later. He's he's on the campus, and that's over well, George came back, and and became a champion a whole different way class. So he's almost like he's had so many triumphs or even triumph from returns. And you know, now he's walking away as. A guy who was to time champion perhaps the greatest ever I'm going to say as great as ever. Good for him. I agree with that completely. I think like you said there's too many of these fighters who are all time greats, and they keep going and keep going, and then it gets almost sad, you know, couple months ago when we saw BJ Penn that was kind of sad, you know, this past weekend henna Barat that was kind of sad. So I think it's great when these fighters, no when they don't wanna keep going, and you know, he said on your show, call months ago, whenever is on that fire really isn't there anymore? So if he's not getting the fights that he wants he shouldn't just be forced into a fight just for the sake of it. He doesn't need the money. He's an all time. Great no matter what no matter where you have him. I know Jackie's he's number one for you. I think a lot of people have number one. I think he's definitely a top five all time. So I think it's I think it's the right time if he's not really feeling that fire. Okay. So let me ask you guys this before we dig deeper into Georgia and his legacy, and perhaps why he's walking away. Jeff you've been covering the fight game along time, and Greg you just alluded to this. The fight game. Is filled with stories of people who announced their retirement, and then come back, even Daniel Cormet said, I'm going to retire when I turned forty in March, and that has been pushed back we know about Roy Jones junior talking for years, I'm gonna retire when I'm x years old comes back Bernard Hopkins and the same BJ Penn. I mean, it's just it's it's very rare that someone stays true to this. I think of a Lennox Lewis who stay chewed said I'm done and never came back. Even though he tried people. Try to get him to come back in short. Do you believe George do you really believe that this is it for him? Oh, yeah. Totally. I feel as though when he walked away after the Johny Hendricks fight years ago. And he never used the R word. He never said retirement. I think that said something about how he wasn't quite ready to truly walk away. But he just couldn't continue at that time. And you know, if you remember the time he was he was kind of a motion a mess. He was it was a hard time in his fight. Who's also getting beat up in even though he was continuing to win and he needed to be away from the sport. He might have never come back. But he wasn't ready at the time to say he was done. I think this time he's he's ready. And again, he's he's he has been a champion two different way. Classes. I know he wanted to get that fight could be which I guess if he had to cut down two hundred and fifty five pounds and become a champion of the third way class. It would have been crazy. But is that what the guy really I mean, I suppose for him if the one one more complement would have been a great thing for him. But I think he he seems like a guy who's who's who knows what he's done in the sport. And he knows when it's when it's time to walk away. So does it. I do believe him that he is feeling this way and retirement could very well. Be exactly what he's going to be in forever. I do think though that you know, he just said he wanted to could be and so it's not completely gone. You know, what I mean and for the right money for the right person? Anybody could come out of retirement. So I'm not going to give it one hundred percent lock great. I don't know about you. I mean, you're you're closer than I am with him. Would you would you sense? I find the timing interesting because as you just said so much can happen between now. And when he is ready to return right Abib has said that he's only gonna come back in November. Once his his teammates suspension are up and were in February. So that's in nine months, a lockin happen. Even if he did come back in November and one a lot can happen between that fight in his next fight. So I'm really curious George hasn't talked on the record yet. But I'm curious to hear his explanation. It is important to note, he's thirty seven, and I think that the you have. See was a little upset that he came back to fight. Michael bist bang, and then didn't defend the title because that's what happened in the Johnny Hendricks fight. He dropped the belt and you'll recall Dana white saying that there was a clause that he had to defend it against Robert Whitaker that didn't happen. So he gave it the title like eleven days later. I think it was. So I thought it was a very very very long shot that we give them a third title fight in the third different way class because I don't think George is ready and willing to be an active champion. Meaning I think he wants legacy fights. He wants big fights the idea of being the first man to defeat hubby, muggy medoff is incredibly intriguing for him. I don't think he is interested in being a guy who's going to defend the lightweight welterweight or middleweight title actively. Right. And so the you have C is gonna say now can give you this massive fight. But I'm not surprised that they're saying. No. And I'm not surprised that he has the feeling that you know, what I'm never gonna get this fight. Because of how the last two title rains went totally understand the way of thinking. I mean, nobody. Ever gone to a different way class one a title, and then not defend it kinda McGregor. But I mean, look Georgia's a guy who had he he is he walks his own path. He's a guy who at times challenged the company with regards to drug testing, really he was the first prominent guy who was out there calling for more for more stringent testing. Now, some of that hasn't hasn't really worked out so well for the sport in general, but but he was the guy that was out there, and he was challenging the see specifically about that. So I I understand them not wanting to do him any favors even though he certainly makes made him a lot of money. And if they put him in another big fight, he would have made even more money for them. Are you surprised the UC's interested in this fight Greg interested in could be been j? Yeah. A little bit because it's too huge huge names. I mean, they're all about selling tickets all about. About song paper views. I mean that would that would crush, right? I mean, those are two amazing fighters. So I am a little surprised. They're not interested. I mean, we don't know all the details, and why didn't come together. But I am a little surprised. Dana white has been asked about this multiple times. He's like, nah, I'm not gonna even that fight. That's not something we're interested in because I think he was legitimately mad. And so I do agree with you. Jeff I understand their line of thinking. And quite frankly, I think it would be hypocritical on our part, especially you, and I Jeff who have talked about like meritocracy and things like that. There is a log jam at one fifty five it would be hard to tell Tony Ferguson, for example. Hey, we're giving this guy who's never fought at one fifty five a title shot over you or doesn't poor your ally. I mean, I I'm not gonna knock the C for this percent. But to your point, Greg. This is a money fight. Like this fight does way better than Ferguson. The only fight that probably does better than this one for Habib is a Connery match. And I think there's for me like stylistically. She is P Habib is freaking. King incredible, right? Yeah. Way. More interesting for me, then Connery match because I agree. You know, unless CONNER suddenly learns way more wrestling, again, I'm not going to discredit McGregor because he did better on the ground that a lot of people did against have done against the hubby. But let's he can raise that significantly of. I don't see a fight with with Habib changing the result changing much at all, you know, George saint-pierre has been always touted as sort of one of the great greatest MMA wrestler, a guy with no actual wrestling credentials in his pocket. But a guy who's always been able to out wrestle everybody. He's he's fought against and, you know, even though he would have to cut down to one hundred and fifty five he would be a bigger man than could be. So yes, certainly, there would would have been some interesting things on your right, though. You can't I it would not be right for him to step ahead of the line. I just don't think that's the reason why the is is saying no to the fight. I mean, they're. The idea that, you know, I'm not gonna Dana would say, I'm not going to give them this fight as if he's giving him something. He's what he's doing is. He's trying to make fights that make money. So there's other reasons there were you at that Prescott. Will you at U of C 167 when he fought Johnny Hendrix. I was not at that one. You've seen the price. You remember how contentious it was? Yeah. Ever since. Then it's never been the same between the two do you? Remember the press conference? I think it was before the Kevin Leigh Tony Ferguson fight in Las Vegas. So that was what you have C two one six if memory serves me, correct? And they did the press conference for GS p bis being and Dana walked up there. And everyone's like, so what was your reaction when you found out that Georgia's coming back, and he said awesome. Like there was no excitement. He didn't build that fight. It always felt like he was just not that buzzed about the fact that arguably the greatest of all time was coming back ever since that press conference. He said he owes it to us. He should defend the title. That's what you do. Johnny Hendrix was so close to winning that fight. They wouldn't have had that problem and ever. Since that moment of felt like they could not see eye to eye vincis becomes talking about drug testing. And and the union thing remember that he was on the forefront of all that ever since then. So I think all that comes into play when you try to figure out why they're not interested in this Habib fight. I'm actually carrying about another possibility say Tyron Woodley who call who always wants to fight pay Sade say Woodley wins in other the refighting row or something. Do you think it's possible that because he's just continues to rise that could be something that for the right money and everything GOP would consider coming back for or is he not is he still not enough of a draw? So he was like three or four zero. It's a good question. I think all of us would sign up for that fight. I don't think he has any interest in that fight because that's a mountain that he conquered. He's considered the greatest welterweight which haven't of all time. And let's say by the time that actually happens where we're tired is threatening. His record George can be like probably close to forty at that point. Right. George saint-pierre is that the kind of guy I think who's going to sit on his couch now and eat a lot of Patine or something like that. I mean, he is going to be in great shape for his entire life. I don't suspected he will like balloon in his forties and fifties that being said he's all about he's talked about the so many times the stock market, you know, who's up who's down. What's my legacy? All this. I think for him welterweight is done like every time. You ask them about. What about like, he doesn't even entertain the idea? One eighty five was of interest because he had never done it. Double champ one fifty five would be of interest because he never done it. Triple champ Abib undefeated in his mind. What have gathered is there's no mountain there as far as will these concern tach your question? No, I don't I would love to see the fights to bad day, two favorite people. Really? I know that is true to would've put the belt on anyone in that case. So that's going to happen tomorrow. And so this gives us an opportunity to celebrate George, and I just mentioned the story. So like for me. Very quickly being MMA fan. And and seeing someone who's from Montreal rise up and become that big of a star again him David Lonzo divisor went to a college. That was literally ten minutes from you know, where where my family lived when I was in high school that was just you know, that that sort of thing didn't happen like in hockey they were Montreal born stars. But another sports there weren't and so that was super cool for us. And that's why Jesus was always our guy and the first time I ever interviewed George saint-pierre was July of two thousand eight when I was working for a website called MA rate dot com, and I went to try star. And I was nervous as hell. And he sat on the ring on their forget at the clip is still on YouTube sat on the ring. And he spoke to me like we were. I mean like best buds, and I couldn't believe how one of the biggest stars in the sport was that down to earth when I was running my own website, Jerry park dot com. I somehow God his number and cold called him at that point. I've never done any video work or anything and asked him to be on the show. And I said mature on everything did the interview right then and there for me. So I think part. Of his legacy is that he was always kind of, you know, humble down to earth respectful martial-arts comes from the true martial arts background. But, but Jeff I understand I've never been to Saint TS though, you've been to his hometown. Yeah. Coming up to Montreal to watch him fight a believe it was the Nick D fight K. And I was I was driving up from Massachusetts through Mont with my wife. And I said, you know, we we have to take a little detour when we're on the way to Montreal. And I found Santa's to do on the map, and I went over there. And I was expecting there to be you know, like in some little town you'd see like banners across across the roadway. You know, big I for Georgia. What I was expecting there to be major celebrations. But it was great quiet. It was nothing at all in the town in there, and we stopped at a little convenience store. And I was asking the person behind the counter. Now, everybody courses a this is in deepest Quebec. So there's hardly anybody half the people I. Would speak to could not speak to me in English. They were just they were French-Speaking. And I think France, Jeff, I'm on. But but but I I was able to at least a brass that. I was you know, there to ask about George Saint Pierre. Some people knew who he was when people didn't even know it was kind of very low key. I was kind of surprised, and then I later found out that that that his his schooling was in a neighboring town. So even though he was from one town his his the where he actually went to school. And where he was kind of a little better known was was in another town. So I, you know, I. You know, I I in a sense, I feel like I gone to the wrong place. But it was still kinda cool to go into the place where this guy was it was like a little tiny little town on middle of farmland. And there was you know, nothing nothing much out. There was it was a cool little thing. And then then to get in the car and Hopley car and go, you know, not very long forty five minutes, or so maybe an hour up to Montreal where you know, the the place was just celebrating him was kind of a cool experience. Yeah. Were you there at UCD three when he fought Matt, Sarah? I was not at that one. No, one twenty nine the one that I was not there either. I only went to the only place I saw George. I saw George fight in in Montreal a bunch of times the Dixie as I think the Carlos Condit. And then maybe I saw him in. I'm not sure if some other some other ones as well. But but I did not see Toronto. And and so I was the first time I saw George saint-pierre fight. I was trying to figure this out when I saw this news this morning, and I realize I don't even remember it. But I remember I looked at his record. And he his you'll see debut was you'll see forty six and the reason I know I saw him fight was that was a fight headlined by two title fights to very distinctive one veto Belford knocked out. Randy couture to become the the the light heavyweight champion in less than a minute and right below that was the welterweight championship of the world. Matt Hughes defending against BJ Penn. The former that time former lightweight champion and BJ Penn upset him to become the champion. Now. George saint-pierre fought on the the main fight of the prelims, and and won a unanimous decision that the bands, don't even remember all our Emmers. I know I saw because I watched that entire fight card there. Five you have welterweight champions. Wow. That fight card. You had Matt huge had BJ Penn. You had George Saint Pierre. Carlos Newton was on that card. And also, I believe Matt Serra was on the fight car. I'm trying to think I've took a note here. I think was. Yeah. Matt Serra as well. I mean, it was a pretty crazy card Frank MIR fought there was a if you go back and look at that, you know, that was a pretty notable thing. But there was I don't remember the GSP performance at all. I knows a two fights later. He was challenging Matt Hughes for the title. He lost that fight. And then of course, a couple years later came back in one, but I did see his debut. Of course, I probably today. I'll go home and and rewatch it on on fight pass. But it was it was notable notable debut, Greg. Where does he stand in your greatest of all time list is number one? Are you John Jones guy? Anderson Silva guy, I gotta I gotta figure it out. Exactly where I do have John John's number one. I just think overall he's basically dominated everyone. He's ever faced in the one loss should not have been a loss. I mean, he literally bloodied. The guy's entire face up before what about the the black clouds. Well, that's the question, and Jeff, and I were talking about this earlier where GSP lands, you know, to me John Jones the best all time. But then he has you know, the the issues overall. So I mean in the same thing with Anderson, you never know for sure on that either. So you know, when we were talking about best ever, you know, you could go fate or go Anderson John Jones GSP, I guess you can make the case for Dimitrius space and everything he did. So I mean, it's kinda tough to figure out exactly who is one through five on these on this list here. But yeah, I mean, that's what I was gonna say two GOP, which is just you knew the guy did the things the right way. There's no issues outside of the octagon with this guy. You know, he wasn't a big trash talker. And I think that's something you've got gotta respect with with him. I wanna ask Jeff where he stands in your greatest of all timeless. But you know, it's funny because Georgia's retiring and usually when. You retire? You get a little older that means you lose some hair, and George doesn't have a lot of hair. But that's I think his own choice. He does the old hell wanna you know, he cuts it short and keeps at high tight. But I think if you wanted to he could let it grow. If he did have trouble letting it grow he should call her friends over at. The music Daniel keeps dot com there. It is Dan, I think I think we welcome up there. It is. There's that song. I need the song. You know, it gets make cited guys as you know. And Greg doesn't have this problem because he's like fourteen years old, but Jeff you, and I can sympathize losing hair sucks. Right. Starting to go. Guys. I don't know if you know this but two to three guys will experience hair loss by the time. They're thirty five thirty five you got twenty more years, Greg. You're good. Introducing keeps the easiest and most affordable way to keep the hair. You have these FDA approved products used to cost so much. But now, no thanks the keeps. 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Go to keeps dot com slash anime. That keeps dot com slash emanate. Keeps is K E E P S dot com slash may. That's a free month of treatment at keeps dot com slash of a make keeps hair today hair tomorrow support them because they support us Jeff it is the greatest of all time. I think he is. But I think you can certainly make strong arguments follows the guys, you know, John Jones is certainly been the most dominant guy. But then you go back and see Anderson Silva, and then you know, certainly fade or gets a get some people excited. I would say those are the those three in Georgia. The are the the big ones four. Is your arguments for one of those guys you also I mean, I I guess Dimitrius another one, but I'm just gonna leave it with those four. And so the way I'm gonna arrive at George being number one is by process of elimination. We can cite all their greatness, each one of those guys George John Anderson fade or make a list you'll see a lot of greatness, right down to less. But now, let's eliminate some stuff. John Jones PD drug test failures enersen Silva PD drug test failures. Let's put that aside fate or a million eggo. It's a little bit sketchy with him. But the fact that he never fought in the UFC, I think is Mark against them. I do recognize that that at the time. He was coming up in the sport, the the pride fighting championship had had tremendous some heavyweights. But you know, unfortunately for him you see is and has been the major league of. Mixed martial arts for a long time. And unless you fight the majors if you don't compete in that in that in that league, you're always going to have some people questioning how great you are. And so I'm going to sort of push him aside as well, George doesn't have very main in negative. I mean, he he took them to times to get to the title. But the second time he fought mad Hughes. He really he he took them out in a really beautiful way. Then he has his big, you know, failure against Matt Serra, but he comes back and smashes him, then he you know, he goes on and even what nine title defenses, then when he walks away he comes back what two and a half years later was it to take out this thing. I mean again, you can make arguments all those guys. But I think that when you add up the positives. And then also take away the negatives. I think you end up with George saint-pierre. I agree with you. I think the fact that he has. Only two losses helps. I think the fact that he has no Asterix helps. I think the fact that he walked away twice as champion helps to me. It's it's kind of a I don't know. It's it's a bit of a no brainer. If you want to say, all right. John has never lost fine. But it's hard to overlook that other stuff. Right. I mean, I'm talking about the Matt Hamill fight. I'm talking about the second DC fight and you'll see two hundred it probably comes down. But you know, what I wouldn't hate you. If you say comes down to DC GS P or Dimitrius, although Dmitri's loss, Henry pseudo. So I think he kinda gets exceeded these Jones twice. I mean. Right. Once once not officially, but I mean, you can certainly make all those arguments any one of those people the cleanest, the only clean in terms of like, the cleanest argument is Georgia's right. Absolutely. There's no question, and this probably shouldn't count. But I can I I would be hypocritical. Why didn't acknowledge that at least counts little bit for me? Georgia's just been a gentleman of the game. There's something about something about that. That I should that factor. Always shouldn't fact it probably him. But there's something about watching a guy who's gone about things the right way all the way through his career, and you know, Johnny bones is I've had great interactions with John over the course of the years Anderson Silva's, well, you know, I have an actually had the opportunity to to interview fado ever. But but certainly I've understood he's always been gentlemen as well. But Georgia something some like, there's some intangible thing about George that. I think just just makes him special. I agree. But we're also watching cage fighting where people are punching each other in the face. I don't think being a gentleman matters as much, but yes, I agree the cleanest come over there. Greg. I know you're trying to couple of times a little bit of air of relied. No, I I agree. I mean, you it's hard to put what say Jones did pass your mind. I mean, it just it's difficult, and that's how I feel DC too. I think you can make the case for DC potentially. But I just can't get those two Jones fights out of my head. No matter no matter what he was potentially on. You know, it was pretty decisive wins there. So it's hard to do that. I like what you're saying about him being nice guy. But this is like an old school media thing that the baseball writers, always get your right right right about who they voted into the hall of fame. Right. All the people who hated Roger Clements. Bonds. Yeah. So I I'm acknowledging that that's in my mind. But, but I do have to sort of push it aside when I'm thinking about which one because like I said all these guys I've had good interactions with all these guys other than having not really had much to do with fate or. But certainly I've seen him, you know, interviewed and seeing him around enough to know that he's also done done things the right way. So so, yeah, I'm knowledge ING by also saying that I really think it's really about other stuff, and we also have Artem above about to fight in bare knuckle. Just don't don't don't do this. Why would he do that come on? I mean, we're trying to have a serious conversation here. And you throw it Artem above with all due respect to the you know, that's two minutes for roughing. Yeah. Okay. Well, let me ask you this. Because I think it is interesting if George saint-peres career started a year ago, right? And it ends up the same twenty six and two victories. Same type of opponents is he as? Is he as popular as successful as he was when his career started back in two thousand four because I don't know if George saint-pierre with his demeanor, his personality and honestly, his fighting style gets over the way the fans of today. Are attracted to emanate fighters. Look at today's you have seized completely different than you have see where he reigned. What do you think this GS p have the same success because we know this game's all about getting the fights. Right. You gotta get the fight to get over with the credit. Does he have the same success talking about starpower starpower getting put in title fights, getting -tunities to shine? All those things I don't know like Tony Ferguson fifteen years ago isn't having as much trouble. Getting title fight on a ten eleven twelve fight winning streak is just a different game. Right. It was much more of America ksi there were less way class just a different game. And I'm wondering if a guy who doesn't talk trash who isn't flashy outside of the cage. I mean, he was known for being, you know, one of the first to wear suits to press conferences, then I think that raised some eyebrows while he's taking it seriously as professional, but I just wonder if George saint-pierre gets the same kind of love today's you see you're probably right. I mean in terms of actually getting those fights, I think it would be more difficult because Dana would look at him and say, oh, he. Doesn't what is really do that surpasses just success in the cage? You know, he needs to have some of the other things that Connor has. For instance. I do think though now a days with not to pattern backs with ESPN backing it now in the sport on the rise. More fans are getting into it. I think his star power could be technically bigger now than ever before a young sport back then when he was really thriving. Now, you know with all the extra different types of forms of media there. It could push him to that level that he wasn't before. Maybe, but we are in the entertainment era as much as I kind of hate that in some ways, I recognize that that's that's where we're at and George George had fights that we're pretty entertaining. But then he also had some that that some people would would not look at that way. And I'm thinking that you know, you brought up our our employers, certainly there's more people just because of so many. Watch ESPN. There's a lot more people who are going to be exposed to see who never would have given it the time of day before. And so we would I would characterize those folks as more casual fans, and and if you're a casual fan, and you are not as steeped in some of the intricacies of the sport. You may not know what's really going on when when when GSP takes the guy down and slowly works as way out of full guard into half guard. And then find its finds a way to work as way decide control and find his way to do all these different things. And you know, I just recently went to a fight down in the making sign the belts are ones. And I was. Kind of like surprised because it'd been awhile since I've been at one of those fights where I was liberally listening to the fans, and there are a lot of people just really just wanna see people bang. They just wanna see they wanna see you know, that Brian barberie and a fight against the scent. Look it that's what they wanna see not. And there's nothing wrong. With those fights are awesome. But the to see somebody do things in a kind of a technical methodical way the way George would would take part as opponents. I think it would have been a harder sell in this era. I agree with you. But do you really think it's not much different? I bet you back years ago. People still wanted them to go and bang. You know what I mean? Like, I remember they would him twenty nine the fight against Jake shields fifty five thousand plus like it kind of ended on a bit of a weird note. You know what? I mean, he hurt. His I in that fight. No, Jake, her design FA, Jake GPS design one of them hurt their I it's been a while. But anyway, the point was the crowd was like restless by the end, you know, and and there were some fights where the crowd was kind of. Like come on, George go for the kill. There was the Dan hardy fight where he went for the submission and heart. He couldn't get this emission in the fans were a little bit annoyed about that. But I think the consensus seemed to be after the Matt Serra knockout that he started to play it safe that it changed the way he was he didn't go for the kill as much and that could very well be true. He's talked about that in the past. So I don't think it's crazy to say that maybe he's not as popular today's you have see just given the way the fans are and also I think personality plays a lot into it. Like, he never talked trash. Remember when he walked into the cage and went up to Matt Hughes and said, I'm not impressed. I'm not impressed by your performance. Exactly. Good job on that one. That was like such a big thing because that was like the most trash Ocoee, and he came out later and said like he was kind of his English wasn't good and heated meet to be that that route. But he literally walked up to Matt Hughes and said that to him right after victory. And that is that is a line that is being repeated till this day apologize for the. Talk in the history of next March Lawrence. Yes. And he apologized for it. Today's you have seized much different. One of the best things. Dana white has ever done as a promoter in my opinion. One of the greatest like it was a stroke of genius. Was remember him being in Montreal? And saying that George saint-pierre was the most popular Canadian athlete on earth. Meaning you go to anywhere on this planet, and you know, you give people a list of famous Canadian athletes G P is the most popular one, right? The one that everyone recognizes a knows this time when when Merrill amuses still I'm not sure whistling rescue still around the had retarded both retired actually. But this created such a stir on Canadian sports talk radio. Remember, like TSN sports, all of them were talking about it saying how crazy GOP was three. Even people said, Bret Hart was more popular Canadian and more successful Canadian. I mean, there was an equated such a debate that I thought it was brilliant on Danish part because it put GOP over. And put him into that conversation. Right. Right. It may not be true. And it probably Gretzky Gretzky Gretzky Lemieux Islamia, and I would even argue bread hardest bread heart. But that was such a smart move. So, you know, I talk about how the relationship clearly deteriorated. I thought that him doing that really put GS p in that stratosphere, and they did a great job back then to push him like they put him in every opportunity possible every big card possible to make him into a star. So I think you'll see deserves a lot of credit as to when you talk about. Jeez. Legacy and how popular yeah. They'd promote at the hell out of him until until the until until things kind of deteriorate. You're right. They're they I remembered that I remember thinking, even I was as a as a fan of the sport was like was he crazy? And, you know, not even thinking about the fact this is Dana being promoted. That's what he's supposed to do is opposed to build up his guys. And but I remember thinking guys insane. That's biggest biggest piece of wash ever. But of course, what is what is talk radio. Uh-huh. All about is like somebody making some outlandish statement, and then trying to support it. And then somebody else trying to to refute it. That's what makes makes for that debate. Let's give a shout out to our sit with a stand for. That's an information stats information group Zafy at the end, right? Thank you Daniel. Sid combat. So the stats and information group hideous peon. Here's some interesting stats as far as GOP goes in just approved as how great he was. He is the most wins and title fights in UC history. That's thirteen if in fact, it is the end, which it will be the end come tomorrow, he would finish his career with thirteen straight wins and overall fights tied for the third longest streak in UFC history. How about this one towards saint-pierre win twelve known fights that went to a decision tied for the most wins by decision UC history with Diego Sanchez, and by far the most wins from decision without a loss and UC history. And that's also twelve the next closest would be Ryan Bater who went nine. No no with decision victories. Most takedown lands blinded in UFC history. Ninety GOP number one number twos. Glazed Tibo, eighty four two meters. Johnson seventy four G P is the only fighter seawall trade history to have landed at least one thousand significant strikes. According to UC stats in total one thousand two hundred and fifty four Taegu Elvas, by the way has nine hundred ninety nine amazing. And here's one more for you. George saint-pierre lands chew point three nine strikes. Poor strike received the best rate in UFC while trade history. According to UC, stats and. That is number one. Come loose Mun is two point two eight Ludwig two point. Oh, two. So some stats for you. If you want to understand just how great cheese P was I talked about the announcement that they were gonna start that union. The M A alongside Cain Velazquez, Donald Sironi. TJ dillashaw urine Remmy that thing lasted like five days, literally. But Greg lemme ask you now that she has p is going to walk away. Would you like to see him champion more of those causes more drug testing unions revenue sharing things it's clear? He's clearly well-versed clearly interested in that. But he was sort of knocked once he got back. He didn't push the issue anymore. Like, he had all this levered thin push. It would you like now that he is going to be done. Would you like to see him do that more? Do you think he will do that more? I personally don't think he's gonna do that more. But I think it would be a great idea. I mean, the fighters need people to back them up. I mean, you see like almost every week. It was like somebody feels like they got screwed over in shot or finances or anything like that. I mean, I do I do think to have a name like him all time. Great. Backing this thing would be a great thing. I just don't know if it's in his personality and his future plans to actually go and keep pushing it I wonder also if it's you know, he's going to walk away from the sport than than he can walk away from the sport. I mean, he's not you don't see him on. On the telecast, like we see, you know, whatever Dominick Cruz Daniel comu-, and you can go down the list of all the fighters who have looked who have transitioned even many of whom are still active transitioned into broadcasting. You don't see him in some of the other areas. I I feel like I feel like that that ship has kind of sailed for for George, and he he gave it his his effort. He let people know what he thought the sport needed. And you know, look where we are. There's there's no, you know, the whole idea fighters fighters union, I've kind of given talking about that as well. Because it's not in my interest in the fighters interests have to have some kind of a union and half the time. We we talk about fighters saying, you know, I really wish I had this had this our wish the UFC give me that. Well, hey, man, if you want to give you something you'd better get it in writing, you shouldn't be asking them to give you something got you got. And so there's a lot of reasons why. The fighters need to be you know, it's in the fighters interests do the do this. But you know, I feel like George George put out his put his name behind it for a while. Now, it's time for him to step away and do his own thing. I wonder if he'll again like I said he will always train, but he's at TriStar regularly and kind of interesting that he posted a tweet yesterday with him and his longtime head coach for as a hobby and said after all these years we remain undefeated in hindsight. I think he no I think we know what he meant at the time when I saw it. I was like, oh, that's just a nice photo between two old friends. But I wonder if he's more active there, there are some fighter's that he has taken under his wing over the years, you know, like Frenchies Carmel he would always be at his fights and whatnot. Were you guys at you'll see to seventeen the one at Michigan's Michael bang were you sitting outside? I was. Yeah. You remember him staying a little longer in the cage. I was watching from the back. But you remember him staying longer took knowledge the fans. Yeah. I think I think he was there a little bit longer. Like, we're in the middle of like, right? Eating and getting everything out there. But you could tell he was there, and he was pretty motionless. You remember that Jeff were you there? I I remember I remember the aftermath of it where there was there did even though it took a what it was like two weeks or so before you actually walked away from that belt. It seemed almost immediately he would hit accomplish something and a lot of times when when a person has Bruce buffer yell out and new and the belt comes to somebody. It seems more like a beginning. But when this happened with George it felt like there was some kind of closure happening. And I didn't you know, certainly, I didn't know the time that he was going to retire. And that he would never fight again. But it certainly seemed to me as though he had accomplished something. And now, he was you know, he was if not writing off the sunset he was at least going to bask in his accomplishment and see what comes next. Yeah. And of course afterwards he announced that he. He would he was battling colitis because of the extra weight that he gained and he was sick. And that's why he decided to walk away for a bit. Although I don't think he ever had really any intentions of of defending that title. But to the best buy knowledge the colitis the stomach issues have nothing to do with his desire to walk away. Now, it's really the fact that he could not get that fight against Habibur mug made off. So he walks away as be the greatest fighter of all time. Certainly the best welterweight champion of all time of with the win over mad Hughes when he became champion at sixty five. Of course, the greatest upset may be of all time. He was on the receiving end of that. I still believe is greatest upset of all time the Mets fair wind up sixty nine. Yes. Make sure avenged that at UC three the first event in Canada the first event that Montreal the bell centre was just absolutely deafening. When he won that fight on had many big fights in Montreal the cost. Check fight at one twenty four the Condit fight the the D S fight the Jake shields. Fight in Toronto. Of course, the first champion versus champion fight in UC history. Against BJ Penn at UFC ninety four just an unbelievable career. And I feel like we could talk about him for very long time. But that announcement again is going to happen tomorrow. Thursday, ten thirty AM bell center. We will be there so excited about that. And my understanding is he'll also be honored at the Canadians. Flyers game later that night at the bell centre as well. So congratulations suggest piano phenomenal career. And I'm very curious to hear what he has to say. And I will admit them a little sack because I do feel like this is the end of an era and the sport. There aren't a lot of GSP's left from that era that I think may be attracted a lot of us to the sport. And certainly for me as a Canadian as Montreal or it's it's a bittersweet moment. So I think he could be very active till this day. Like, I think he could be a lot of fighters in the, but hey, like Lennox Lewis, another great Canadian, by the way. But that thinking that you said, yeah, that's the problem that I think a lot of these guys think I could still beat all these guys. And that's the problem. They don't walk away. So I think that George is smart. He's done it twice now. Yeah. He's he's realized the first time that he was he wanted needed separate. And he did it didn't say retire. But he's he needed to step away. Now, he's prepared to actually say retire. And the fact that he didn't say before, but he's going to say this time, I think this is good good for him. And it's not just the fight game thing. Right. I mean, it's sometimes it's the thing that we kind of make fun of the fight game about. But like, let's be honest. It's a sports thing. Like, no one walks away on top, Michael, Jordan. Couldn't do it. Right. I mean, the greatest Willie Mays couldn't do it on eighties in the midst could be one of those guys who could do it. But like, it's very rare thing in sports when you're champion. That's why I think DC's not going to do it you're doing so. Well, you're champing you're making money to just walk away. Like, this is an incredibly impressive feat in its own right, right? It's also he did in the cage, it's not athletes, but to walk away like this in sports like I can't think of many guys who walked away quote unquote on top. I'm trying to I'm trying to think who did that though, it doesn't happen. I mean, rocky Marciano. Walked away from boxing undefeated Floyd Mayweather walked away undefeated. But but he keeps coming back doing all kinds of weird things. And you know, he he even he, you know, he's not going back to boxing. But he, but he can't you can't quite get something out of a system. He needs something, you know, an MA. Jeez. I don't even know of who's some guys walked Chris Lytle walked away on a win. But he's come back to do bare knuckle fighting. I mean even Kobe Bryant like they didn't even make or did they make the playoffs. They lost last game against the Utah or something like that. They did nothing in his final season. Right. There were kind of. So the gray manning Peyton Manning walked away after winning the SuperBowl Diddy. Yes. Yes. With the Broncos. Yes. Is that correct? Daniel. That's correct. Okay. That's a resume the NFL guru it just so much different. With them may though, I think just because you're literally people are trying to beat each other up. And it's so strenuous on your body that you could keep going in the NBA. And you know, it's obviously really tough to do that physically. But I just think enemy is different. And you don't want to suffer potential, brain damage and. Whatever else long-term, you know, by keeping yourself going just for the sake of going. Yeah. What a great fight. That would have been him beat though. Oh, just stylus moving wins that fight Jeff. I guess it would depend on when it when it happened. And what George looks like on on the way ends being? I think about it. You know, he's last fight was one hundred eighty five pounds. This is one hundred and fifty five pound. Yeah. That's thirty pounds of a guy. Who is we look I can lose thirty pounds, and you won't even notice. George George is like leading me, and he's going to lose thirty pounds for the way ends if he came on the scale and looked you know, pretty good sort of. I mean, I actually thought TJ dillashaw looked pretty good when he stepped on one twenty five and looked what happened to him. So he's gonna put a lot of that back on. Yeah. I actually, you know, down with one sixty five by the way. Yeah. I don't care. What do you think? They're weights would be when they step in the cage. Well, it depends. What they if it's a one fifty five or one sixty five I actually was in favor of the 165 not for a belt. Remember mad? He's fought voice Gracie at a catchweight like old guard versus new guard. That's the kind of fight that you don't need a belt for my pinion. You know what I mean? And so I understand that wanna tied up in Habib's. You know, his time is very valuable you want to defend the title, but I wouldn't have painted it. So it would have been one sixty five. I wouldn't be surprised if he if he walked in like one eighty five you know, what I mean? But the answer your question, I was I like to dance around and invade your questions, usually when you asked me these. Tough ones. But I think that George has always had more tools than hubby hubby certainly knocked down Connor in that in that fight. But, but I don't that was kind of a shocker I don't think that I don't think progress expecting the rate that kind of thing. I think it would be I prime GSP worse. Prime of EIB. I'm going with GS p where p is right now. I think it'd be a damn close fight. Who would I pick? I I'd probably pick pick George really I think I would he's more of a gentleman. So yeah, it's fine. I don't know. Maybe you know, today would pick George. I would go back on this fight was happening. November MSG heavy God, I would pick George and then I would pick. I really think it's what do you mean you pick Georgian hubby because I was back and fall, I would I really was right now saying George, but if we what if we talk about this again like another week. I would be like the other way, it'd be great. Yeah. It would be super interesting because like Connor I mean, you knew he was just gonna be able to get taken to you know, is going to get taken down. I don't know. That's really that's because that's the whole thing. Can't he take them down? And then beat him up in a ground. Pound. That's what does he mall's people? I don't I don't know. I mean, it it's really tough who's striking is better. I think you'd have to. Give pizza. Significantly. That's not even close. Right. And I think that I have wrestling maybe maybe better. But, but it would be damn close GSP as you pointed out from arg, great stats and information group, the he's at the most take down you'll see history. I mean, of course, he's fought a lot of fights. But still I mean, I think that GSP hub is in his prime GS GSP would be a little beyond his prime. So that's a factor too. That maybe would fall in in hubs. On him. But man is hard to imagine. Yeah. I mean, I what I said George I'll stick with it. But, but I I swear like tomorrow, I might like think I don't know he never could be could be the audience can't see this. And by the way, I Quin sedately. I'm wearing my much L expert Expos sweatshirt, and this has nothing to do with us p. But it does seem somewhat city I'm actually salivating at the idea of these two fighting each other just like us talking about it like stylistically, it's one of the best fights, right? Because b is just so relentless he so dominating on the ground. And then of course with his take downs. I don't know if he gets pita ground, and I agree with you his striking is better. Jeeze piece striking is better. Gosh. Kind of shame. But on the other end, you know, like I think it's unfair to the Fergusons of the world. So we talked about doing a story on this awhile ago about the never actually came into. This would be yen that list, we're. Absolutely discussed never put together, actually. Yup. Absolutely. Okay. So that's the Morrow. We have a few minutes left. We again, we do the whole episode on GS, but some other breaking news yesterday for supported by Brett Okamoto Via's peon, the has decided to move ahead with the middleweight division, and they have booked an interim middleweight title fight between Israel Sonya and Kelvin gasoline. Right now that fight is scheduled for April thirteenth that. Is. You have see to thirty seven. No six. Yes. Six very confusing. Six. However, it doesn't have a location yet for whatever it's worth. I'm hearing Atlanta's been discussed Houston has been discussed Abu Dhabi was discussed. But once Abib decided he would not fight that was knocked off the table MSG was discussed, but no longer in play from what I'm hearing in any event. It's an interim title fight. We talked about this a couple of weeks ago on the show and we've been talking about it for the last couple of weeks. Jeff, let me ask you. I did you see this one right with? The pairing with booking now that we know the Whitaker's out for at least the next few months until maybe July August did they get right with the pairing? And did they get a right with the interim title fight? Well, you know, you know, how I just spies interim title FIS. But in this case. Both of these guys were promised a championship fight. You know, gasoline was supposed to get the challenge of that guy cancelled. And Sonya was was put in that fight with with enersen Silva and said if you beat Anderson Silva, you're gonna get a title shot, so incense you have see, you know, paying off the the debt to these guys. Now, I know that the OC often doesn't come through there with the promises of the issue to their fighters. But in this case, they're giving these guys what they promised them. They would get in terms of the fight it self. I mean, it's it's the fight to make how what other fight is our to make if you're if you don't want to wait for Robert Whitaker than you have to have these two guys fight, and it kinda solves another issue. Which is let's say you were decided, well, we're just going to wait for Whitaker. Whether which one of these guys do you give the fight to Sonya certainly was promised a title shot with his last win. But I would have given it to gasoline. If it was if Whitaker. Was going to be defending his belt. I would I would put gasoline back in there. And I think out sign you would scream bloody murder. So the way you saw that is the put those two guys in there. The winner Feis fights against Whitaker. I would agree. And I think I'm with you that interim title fights are really horrendous. And when that is put together that's seems like the perfect time to do it. I don't think Whitaker should be stripped because I mean, he had a collapsed bowel. And hernia like every time it's not says that by the way, like I cringe like that sounds awful. Like, I would never wish them worst enemy, by the way. What about two weeks in Rhode collapse bowel for Whitaker collapsed lung for puff elder and how about Sergei Kharitonov Trump? Yes, nailed in the groin kinda growing. We have those three injuries were laid out in front of me, which one do I want. I don't know. I'm not going car time on ESPN dot com. Yes column. That's a great one. That's which this Opole for us. There's our next poll it'd be on the but Hari ton of doesn't require surge. Three of any kind. No. But but he did get hemorrhoids as it was not. I was like. That was not a pleasant experience by any means. I just just going out of this. I would say just Whitaker should not be stripped. That's not that wasn't in his control. It's like he's refusing flights. The guy literally fought multiple rounds against well Romero with a broken hand. It's like it's not based on toughness or anything like that. And I know Dana loves him too. All that. I do think this is probably the mattress to make. I would feel horrible for Calvin gasoline. If just because of what happened to Whitaker us Amir. Here's mere hours away from fighting for a title. And then just because outta Sonya is the hot rising star that he gets passed over. I know our boy New York Rick thinks it should have been outta Sonya over gas lem. I'm with you, Jeff, I think Aslam just because he was ready to go. He should have gone the shot, and you could always find something else. Right asana. If you didn't wanna wait. This is the fight to make though I think at this point. I was looking at the looking last night just to see who else can really have a shot and at the top of the list who else who else besides these guys is deserving. This sucker is split his last four wideman. Lost four or five. Romero's lost two of three it is this is this is the fight to make. And I think there's going to be some pressure on China. Just because he like I said he is this fast rising contender and gasoline. I think has a lot to prove as well worried that he's coming back to soon. No. Because it didn't seem like he took a lot a lot of damage in the Anderson Selva fight, I agree. And this guy like wants to fight all the time some crazy number in terms of say after the fight. I wanna take a little break that I've just fought, you know, what was it five days a year space. So you gotta take the opportunity because now he's able to come in there get the interim title, and that could set up this Whitaker fight that we've been talking about that. I think the you have C once best. Yeah. And you're right, Greg. You can't take the title, whatever. Even though he has never defended the belt that he won in two thousand seventeen but he was prepared to when when you will miss wait last year. So so even so that was even though he's he's had two fights where he's at the drop out. He was he was he weighed and he was ready to go. And and so so you you can't count that lack of title defence against him. Because it wasn't his doing so. Yeah, I think it'd be hard to take the belt and how about this nugget from Kelvin gasoline yesterday. He wanted fight on April thirteenth of two thousand thirteen six years later to the day. He's going to fight finally hopefully for UC title. So it's been a long road for him. Hopefully, he's healthy. At a sunny remains healthy. And we'll finally get that flight. Then Whitaker comes back. Are you confusing? Was that the top season against against your whole? Yes. So it's so he's in a sense these nother another guy who's like, flashy, kinky kind of thing. So and and I remember back then thinking, you know, this this kind of like sort of meat and potatoes, kind of basic wrestler, guys. How's it gonna fair against his flashy striker while he just took them took him out of his game? And so the the blueprint is out there, and we'll see whether he can do that against outta Sonya. Who I didn't think was the guy that I don't think he should leapfrogged gasoline. He did not he defeated a legend. But he did not defeat a top ten fighter in. Innocence, forty three years old. He's not in his prime anymore. So I think it would've been different if Israel went in there and knocked him out. I think there may be would have been a little bit different discussion. If he was he showed himself to be on a clearly different level, right? It'd be different. But when you guy was not a top ten guy. And you know, I mean look on you fought beautifully and won the fight. Clearly and all that. And he deserve the accolades come with that. But I didn't think it was a performance that would allow should have allowed him to leapfrog the guy who was sitting there waiting to fight for the title. So this is this is kind of best Lucien come up with this is again as we said a couple of weeks ago. This is when you really should institute in Trump title for reasons like this. So they got a right. I know we all roll our eyes. But in this particular case if you look at it in a vacuum. They gotta right last quick thing before we go. We have two minutes left. I'm still shocked that people are saying that Francis and gun who didn't knock knockout came Alaska's. I don't feel like he's getting the credit that he deserves on this one Mike crate, I've watched this clip a million times now, and I don't understand people. Don't see the fact that he. Hit him and that led to his knee buckling. Like I understand that his knee. Did a weird thing. Also, let's not ignore the fact that he walked out of the cage on his own. But like it was his power and his punches that led to that is the community not giving respect to Francis here. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I want to use the reference gonna go over the heads of of our young listeners. But as a little bit of a Allie Sonny liston kind of in this with it where this almost like a phantom punch Benton punch from from what I was in that group of NC the full on. I saw what I saw in Gano. He land landed a very short. Yeah. The cross uppercut right hand. Yeah. That kane. But what it was thrown in such where the camera angle was basically behind Cain. So you almost didn't see what was it. What you saw you could see in Ghana are moved toward him. But you didn't really see. I didn't see the way it lands head like sure, right? Well, that's what I was gonna say to which I think the angle that people are watching live. It wasn't a great view. Okay. But a million. But there's been all these angles sins. Steph still doesn't it. In the other hand, I'm saying that that while you're watching the thing live, you're like what just happened? That's part of it was he hit them. And I don't think he necessarily was knocking them out that punch think he wobbled them enough and the knee buckled as he waddled. And that was the end of it. I mean, I think if let's say his knee was fine. It might it might shook him up a little bit. And who knows what would have happened right after that? But once he hit him hit him enough to make the make him wobble. The waddling body. Yeah. The need buckle. And then then it's over so no respect from Jeff. You're on my side here. He is crazy power. Yes. And even a short shot like that. We'll send some now. Okay. So if you're the of see your Francis. Would you do next with them? Well, I think corm is still waiting for Brock, and that's the fight to make. And in my crazy to say he should get a rematch with steepest down. That's that's what I think it should be, you know, and then the winner could potentially face to do that or DC wants face Jones next. But I think the steep a fight is the best one to make right now. I was at that want to all three of us there. Like, it was like you said that the first round was mazing. Yeah. It was crazy up the rest of the fi wasn't amazing steep ages. Did what he usually does. I'm very curious. And this is what I was thinking. When I watched the fight the other night at ended, whatever it is twenty six seconds in. We didn't really get to see how much Francis really grew. Because we all know. Yes, crazy power. And he showed that, you know. So does he have better take done defense is he a better wrestler than he was when he faced steep. That's what I'm that's what I'm curious about. If that rematch. Good comes together. All right. We'll put a pin on this. Because we are at a time. I know we spent. Lot of time talking about George today. But I think it was a revolve charge of while. Yes. Well, done you're gonna go back to hometown and story. Yeah. We'll talk about it afterwards. We have a lot more discusses far as what happened last week, and what's to come and all that stuff more. But for now, we're at time. So we'll talk about it on a future episode or two of 'em mayor reporters, we share you guys doing this. I said breaking news, always fun. You have a lot of time to really digest. Everything is just all very raw. I was crying throughout. I'm happy that this is just audio again. Thank you very much, Greg. Thanks very much. Jeff. Thanks very much. Daniel one who listens? Downloads rates comments, all that stuff. More. Enjoy your Wednesday tomorrow coverage from Montreal us peace big announcement. You're at a time enjoy your weekend, by the way, you'll see pry this weekend PM to and plus Bill tour in Dublin. So a lot more discuss next week see them.

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GSP Will Return In 2020

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And there's always seems like a bit of a pitfall right one of the things that happens in the sport where you you can get a major leg up on other sports as you sign a contract you know when the event is going to be so you have a period of time to focus on one guy and it's very unique in the sport I use the NFL just as an example but their season and their schedule is set ahead of time. All the way to the plans for the players. Happen Pretty quick. So you don't. You don't really have time to just prepare pair for one team. If you do that. You're wait you got somebody else. The next Sunday somebody else next Sunday you just prepare yourself. You prepare your own team. You get your offense your defense right and you go out and you put it to test against anybody who shows up okay. This sports a little different but there is a little bit of a misconception. That if you can sit down and identify defy what your opponent wants to do. You can then sit down and identify what it is you need to do to stop him and that seems to be the game that gets played paid for year after year and fight after fight and really just the entire history of the industry. If you're going to be beep yes. It would be responsible as a coach to sit. Sit Down and identify what does first and foremost he pushes guys to the fence. If Khabib cannot push his opponent to the fence is a totally different fight wholly different fight of abuse bax on the cage. Or if you're out of the open it's a completely different animal than if you let him. Put you into the fence okay but it does always come back to Mike Tyson right. Everybody Buddy knew that Mike was gonna hit you with an uppercut and follow with a hook. Everybody knew it and everybody thought about it and they worried about it and then they brought it into reality and it happened. He was one of these athletes. It's much like Babe Ruth that could walk to the mount. Tell you where he was going to hit the ball and do it anyway so you have to consider this because so many times no matter how we want to break down an opponent figure out what his tendencies fees are okay. Great what in three months average at three months to prepare for a guy. You are not going to change anything about that athlete. Nothing but if you try to you could make your athlete worse. If you try to get your athlete to do things to respond to his opponent or counter his opponent you could make him worse he could sharpen a few of his sharper weapons few of his tools while thinking about this opponent. Here's the bottom line to be or anybody else. That's great the guy it's going to beat them. I can tell you what he needs to do. He needs to keep his back off the fence. He needs to knock pressured he needs to be able to match that pace. That's what this athlete that's going to be could be needs to to do but with whoever that athlete is and I believe there's a good chance to that athlete. Is Tony Ferguson. Whoever that athlete is started these skills when he was ten years old started these skills the latest when he was thirteen years at the latest as an early teenager? Just so happened. He's going to have three months to focus. Sharpen them get his weight down. He writes tried to be healthy. Some of these other things in the go into battle there is no coach and there is no team that could take anybody in a three month training camp period and many guys more like an eight week training camp period and make them better make them have the skills to stop the most dominant lightweight in the world. Who's never been stopped? Save one round gets gets Conor McGregor. I mean really quite bulletproof has looked absolutely invincible. That theories do still exist and I keep saying this but I feel as though I'm the first to say it I think that's why. Yeah I keep saying it. I think I want my credit for identifying that could beads wrestling in Kabir's prowess for getting on top and then pounding guys but it's in that order right. He has the I get on top of you before he does. Some of those lockdowns in entanglements with the leg and starts at ground starts to show that patient starts to wear it goes in that order. So if you don't want to worry about the entanglements and worry about what you're GonNa do on the ground. Okay great you may not have to. If you can just stop from being put in that position if you want to stop for being put in that position rule number one with could be. Keep your back off the fence. It's the story of Kabibi. Great Wrestler is justified in created because he always ends up on top of his opponents. I don't know that anybody else aside for me. I think I really was the first. I and I do want a little bit of a job jail. He gets in that position by pushing you against the fence. That's when his tools opened up and it's one of the reasons that fellow fighters give him so much credit. It's one of the reasons as we look at and go. Wow that's remarkable because a great defense a great defense if you're ever taken on a wrestler is to go to the cage go to the cage. Put your hips on it. Turn in your feet get your heels on there. There's nothing for him to lock onto. The fence. Becomes your partner. You're now in some ways resting. What could be in theory? The one that's got to work vivas CABELA's vivas developed a system to pull you off the fence to use your weight against you to us that gravity in his favorites very remarkable skillset. That he has is but it doesn't change the fact that this is the way that he likes to do things in in this specific order pressure. You get you on the fence leg tangled pull you off. Dropped down to your legs pull you out start tying you up on the ground start getting risk control and start pounding. He's very methodical in what he does. He's very difficult to stop. Particularly in my opinion once he gets on top OP. He's hard to stop you from taking you down. I acknowledged that but I feel that you're a bigger problems. Once he gets on top. I've never seen him in threat of a submission Asian. I've never seen him reverse. I've never seen guys scramble out. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I'm sharing with you off my mind. I can't recall it. I have seen guys stopped his take down. I have seen guys make him or car. What those guys? Then don't return to the same position in that position is what they're back on the fence. They need to return to a different position which is out into the open open. I think that Tony Ferguson is a wonderful opportunity to stop him. But I also would acknowledge for you that Tony Ferguson began working those skills as a little boy. He's had twenty the years to prepare for this match. It just so happens that as this match lines up their skills start to wash each other out at least on paper and at least on theory those boys are going to have to get on April show us. WHO's right or wrong in this matter? But the theory that you could go in three months or even an eight weeks as a great coach and transform an athlete this one backfires all the time every time after all a fight is a dance. If you're a coach in your informing your athlete. This is what he needs to look for. And this is how it needs to respond and you start doing the dance. Dance moves with the other person leading the dance your now on defense. They can call Martial-arts Self-defense. All they want. If you're a fighter you know self aw fence you know how to be the aggressor when things go bad and push comes to shove you know how to get to your target before the other one if you start working on and focusing on what what your opponents going to do look it's okay. This is a piece of it knowing what your opponent wants to do. This is definitely a piece of it. Said something that you would ignore. But it's not something that that you would focus and dwell on or ever make believe that you could correct a training camp so Ronda Rousey was named as top sports moment and this is by like people magazine. This was a very credible publication but top sports moments of the decade. What that moment was I neither here nor there but I I do think if you look at Rhonda's career? It is a little bit like a fine wine. I think it looks better and better with time. And there was no doubt of Rhonda's impact and many things were embellished. I mean that's what the world promotion is at Rhonda's as a star the biggest star on the sport. That's simply never happened. Rawda does not hold any record but never we did. It wasn't as though she lost a wrecker. She never held a record for pay per view for live gate never had a record but to say that she was the biggest star. I don't know about that because she he was most likely to end up on Jimmy. Fallon's couch who in mixed martial arts can get an interview with Ellen Degeneres tomorrow. There's only one person who was Ron drowsy and there was something been extremely special about that. I'm not attempting to take away from anything that she did. I'm just sharing with you if we're going to tell the story Accurately as far as there being a big star moving the needle she moved but she was never the biggest star. But it was one of these very interesting things that when things finally went bad for Rhonda when that light dimmed a little bit and she said I'm out I'm going to do something else. She was met with so much resistance from the community. That thought you owe us more. You another front. We WanNa see you fall down one. More time time we watched you make it to the top of the mountain. We came along that journey. We pitched in our time in our money and our emotions. Now we want to enjoy the fall and she says you know what you're not GonNa go do and I'm going to go do them as you look back on that. That was a good message by Rhonda. Wasn't it I mean that was very responsible by Rhonda not only for Herself Yourself. Not only to look out for herself and her own interests and go. Listen I got I got one foot in this but I got a foot in over here and if there's anything I've learned about combat over my life of doing it it's that you have to be all end. That was responsible by her and I think that it said a very good example. Let me tell you another story. That happened over. The chocolate del comes back gets beat up by Tito okay now. That was a very embarrassing moment for chuck he did it look right out there. He shouldn't have been in there. He'd beaten Tito twice. They had a bit of a rivalry. Tito gets the final. That was an embarrassing moment for chuck but only the time that it happened now that a few months have gone by people need to thank chuck. Chuck thank you for that. Because I've wanted to do what you did. I've wanted to come back into something. Grab a part of my youth. GET BACK IN SHAPE regain go out and compete in a sport. I wanted to do that and I've lied to myself and thought that I could that I could be the one guy to do it but you know what. You're a lot better than I was your lot tougher guy that I was. You're a lot more more focused than I was. Innovated at work for you you now let me know that. I don't need to test those waters either and it really was kind of a cool thing that chucked it in hindsight I mean he put himself out there. It was all an experiment can afford eighty eight year old former world champion comeback if he gets focused and gets good coaches and gets down to the way class and takes on Chameleon opponent. I mean if everything's can a guy come back at forty eight after having not done it for seven years. It's a fair question that many of us have wondered how many have dreamed that night of going back to the big game in high school right the film. If I could just go back I could just do things differently but how many of us chuck actually did it. It was an experiment and he showed us the result but he saved many other people from having to go and do it themselves. I mean chuck kind of turns out to be the hero of the story once you put a little time between it I feel the same thing with Rhonda. Rhonda is a hero of the story. I think that she made a good example. That there's other things to do in life you have to pick. You're not going to get them all or whatever it is. You do go all in Gaul in and I don't think the Ron Story has done. I don't think it ends with a pro wrestler. I think it likely ends. Moore's a mother. A wife hopefully fully a coach someday maybe to her okay. Let's see how it goes. Get too personal on. What I'm saying is is you do look back at some of the decisions that Rhonda made while they weren't all really really popular in the moment she deserves a thank you as she also deserves good job she also deserves a? You're right. You're right Ronda. If that's not something when you want to do fully get out of the way let somebody else have the opportunity you go and fully do something else. And that's exactly what she did. So here was something surprising. Edson Barboza has come out and said that in two thousand twenty he's going to drop down to featherweight and that really surprised me really surprise this before couple of reasons first off. Let's just start at the beginning. How you were seen Edson Barboza? He looks like he's carved out of stone. Where's he going to find ten pounds? I would have to imagine. Imagine it's a struggle to get down one hundred fifty five. I would just have to imagine it. Where's he going to find ten pounds? I think we saw from Josie although just doing it who also perfectly lean guy. I that it's possible if you want to cannibalize your own body and takes the Muslim sure you could do it. I think it does come back. I think asked that question when I say why. Why would you WanNa do is that? It would seem to me as a fan and S and doesn't have to do with fans want. Here's the do what he believes. It's best for putting. It would just seem to me as a fan that him if he was to change. Wake like one seventy in many ways would make a little bit more sense than going down to one forty five okay. The other reason I was surprised is he's doing so well at one. I'm fifty five. Do I need to remind him. He is coming off a win. Do I need to remind him that. That wasn't a co main event in an arena. That was erected just for the joy I need to remind Edson how well he's doing at one fifty five questions. Well what do you want to do down at one forty five and is this all about the fact that there's a change there that Volkan off Sqi needs an opponent is all about. I mean if it's not about a title what the Hell would it be about. Everything's going great in the career Vincent Barboza. Everybody knows who this guy is. He's completely feared. Nobody calls them out. Nobody wants to fight Barboza. You five if you have to fight him and then you get ready to be a whole lot of pain whether you win or lose. I mean he's a very respected figure in the sport but he's also a staple one hundred fifty five pounds so I I have to assume I think you guys would agree that this is about a title. Okay no problem but did anybody gives you the advice that if you go down one hundred forty five pounds. Here's the path that it's somebody in a leadership position. Say Hey Bozo. We're looking for some fresh blood and if you can get down here we're going to give you a fight and if you do well in a boom you're going to slide right into a title and I only ask that because does that kind of seems where he's at one fifty five. I mean there's a number of really good choices that one hundred fifty five pounds right anytime you get an jam of what should I do. And it's one fifty five just engaging just engaged the answer to every single question that comes up at one hundred fifty five pounds plant so as Kevin Lee. So is Tony Ferguson. So is Edson Barboza. Bosaso is Paul felder. There's a lot of guys at one fifty five through the right answer. He's in a good spot. He's one of those guys now if you look at the fact that he's already been mashed with Khabib and if he believes that could be going to be victorious over Tony He goes look. I tested those waters. I get it not a good matchup for me and I want the strap then you go down to one forty five. I'm only guessing what could be going through his head but for him to leave and go down to one forty five on me. The lifestyle change and the commitment that he's going to have to make literally he's going to have to cannibalize his body. He's going to have to eat away at it and burn common. It's just one of these things. Where if you worked as hard as Edson to get that strengthen that power that he had I mean he's a very special fast rare skills? Balance as Barboza has some of the best balanced. Nobody ever talks about balance sport but we all know how important it is his spin around with one foot on the ground. Kick you right in the mouth. No right where you are. I mean. He's an amazing athlete. This guy to think that he's going to cannibalize take some of that authority worked so hard to get. It's just a surprise the price for me and I'm in if he wants to go to one forty five and give us all some parody. I'm in for. I would just ask Edson before he did it. Hey do you have a plan. Is there a strategy Adji. Have you made some private phone calls in shared your theory with anybody else. WHO's signed off on that theory? I'm curious as to why I really GAM and if it is about a fresh coat of paint and it is about some different parody great. I've seen that movie before a million times. It's a good movie. I I do argue for you. Consider going the other way. Have you considered as in trains at the ATT foothold. They've had a stranglehold on on on the welterweight title for meaningful period of time whether it was Robbie lawler Tyron Woodley Colby Covington. They got one seventy figuring out. It would be pretty the easy to go and just touch touch hands with teammate. Go get five ten fifteen good minutes in antsy where you stack up there. Maybe he's already done that. Maybe size was too big of an issue and he didn't like it. I don't know that a committed size was ever made. He's never committed to one seventy spin a couple of months allowing his body to adjust it. Just a thought I would not construct Edson. Barboza is a very accomplished guy would not instruct him where to go. What did seem to me whether it is or not like a little bit of a knee jerk reaction? This is a guy after all coming off a victory over Paul felder. I have that wrong Donna. They gave shelter that fight. Before you guys go to my youtube you're right. They gave felder that. I forgot that our boats have won. That match fell there one the decision okay. Maybe that's what's got him all up in arms but it still would seem to me that the trilogy fight with Paul Feller said he just big things that one hundred fifty five. I don't know why this guy would want to go through the turmoil and the angst of dropping down a weight class. It seems very difficult particularly when he can just. Let's look at the experiment that was done by Josie although we don't see it largely particularly with older athletes when they go down and wait we. Just don't I don't know that we have enough history to support report as the trajectory of the future that dropping weight. I mean that's murderers row hundred fifty five hundred and forty five pounds to toughest weight classes in Ma and have been across the board organizations in Japan. Bela Tor UFC across the board. That is the key that is the hot spot. You WanNA change your body go a little bit of fun. Doing it gained some weight. Get yourself out of the fire. Get yourself up to another way. One seventy is not easy not my message here but it's a hell of a lot easier. One forty five. The New Year brings a whole new feeling of anticipation patient when it comes to the sports betting odds especially in the NBA Nhl over in the NBA. The box the Celtics. The Pacers the sixers They're keeping things interesting in the eastern conference while the Lakers the nuggets and the clippers continue to dominate the west over in the NHL. The bruins wins coyotes blues and capitals all stand on top of their respective divisions who knows what two thousand and twenty is going to have in store visit our good friends and our are exclusive partner at podcast one go to bed online dot ag and take advantage of the best bonuses in the business sign up today for a free account at bet on Lie Dot AG use the Promo Code podcast one that's bet online dot ag your online sportsbook experts and the exclusive partner of a podcast one sports net. This is your welcome with jail. Sunan the this. We unbelievable tightening go food. We waited this stuff. Ready to rock. Radio characterized role thirty three to hop bachman exclusively available at Apple. PODCASTS and PODCASTS. Now back to your welcome with jailed Sunan Fan Questions H. L. just wondering. Who is your favorite fighter going into twenty twenty money and who are you most excited for in the UFC appreciated the content? That well twenty twenty has already started. Lay out a little bit right. I mean what's MAS brawl. We're going to do what's next for. Who's man what's next for Covington? I mean these guys were all star is Saint Pierre coming back I mean look. We've already got our January. We already got connor and cowboy done. We're already got our April done with could be versus Tony. We already have been informed that Steep Bay and Daniel are going to go out had at one more time in the year started to unfold. Dana White has even said that Oughta Sonya versus Romero has a timeframe and that is about to be announced. So who am I looking foreword to the most is a little bit harder to answer but only because we're putting a really great spot right now where we have a number of contests that are going to take. Yes until early summer that we already have anticipation for A. How's it going on sale big fan here? So here's my question. If you can combine all the different attributes of different fighters into one ultimate fighter so say dig the boxing of Ghana McGregor dig the head kicks. As far boza microcosm dig the strength Francis in Ghana and take the grappling of the bad guy himself tailpiece on it and trash talk from the best overdo it of course the juice box crusher himself dealer would you pick and why give them the content uncle jail well. I don't know that I would disagree with who you just threw out there like what you said about strength. And then Gano I think if you're looking for grappling. I think that my would probably be the guy that you'd have to turn to. So how many people think of my is just as you Jitsu player but if you see what a wonderful wrestler he is his last fight against Ben Askar remind can do a little bit of everything I think if you were just to grab one in guy for the grappling skills that would probably be him. I like what you're saying about conor McGregor with his boxing. I like the connor more for his length. His ability to control distance distances awkwardness his an awkwardness similar to garner. Nelson's they used to train together a little bit. Maybe that's why make that reference. I prefer just straight up boxing of steep baby. Oh church I think your ability to compete and the toughness and to stay in the moment. I think you'd have to look at George Saint Pierre. I like for Kicks Barboza. I like a grit of somebody along the pulse felder lines and when it comes to trash talk I think I think Kobe's a lot of fun. Connors obviously GONNA come to mind. I'm really enjoying a lot of the work that has been putting out. H L just want to know your thoughts on on a potential matchup between Kron Gracie and Ryan Hall. I personally think it makes a lot of sense because of where Ryan Hawes ranked leaves ranked fourteen keener fifteen yet. Still nobody wants to fight him. And then you got Congress. WHO's trying to break his way into that top fifteen and I think this is a perfect stylistic matchup for him the battle of grapplers in that division only come out on top of your thoughts? Thanks oh I'd love to see that match. I like what you're doing there that that could be an interesting one skill. Wise Ryan Hall is crazy. I mean he's doing these crazy and wild. He's so fun to watch Crohn's a little bit more by the book but I do think that if you had speculating here but I would suspect that hall admirers crown on some level whether it's the family lineage. Whether it's who got their black doc belt I whether it's you know metals and grappling events. I would imagine that. He decorated grappler an aspiring grappler like Ryan Hall on some level Admires Kron Gracie and mentally. That could be a little bit of a struggle. I think as far as the match goes seen some very interesting positions maybe even Ryan Hall shut down in a couple of spots but exposing Crohn's medicine. I love everything that match would have to offer. I would just WanNa make sure that both guys WanNa do it. And I'm only guessing but I think I'm right at least to some degree. Not that hall is probably not looking to fight a fellow Jujitsu get child love and you work I just can be third or fourth fourth. Tom and I realized that could be always wants to push the opponent by to talk. Those two octagon markings on the canvas and then might excite you into you know. Get him up against the fence. Vint an enormous step forward a little bit and feels the finally and slowly pushes him back when he couldn't get locked party. I for example onto floors and three punches the parade panic and get on the back foot and then I think if I went tiny Foschi when I think he's he's GonNa be able to sort of void stepping back in sort of facade and remind insult is through optical mapping to What do you think could be will still be willing and eventually magnitude in center? The on and I definitely agree with you that if if Tony can keep his back off the fence I mean look to be not. This is great wrestler. Okay now I'm not putting beams wrestling down. He's very good. What I'm saying is there is a little bit of a of a dots connected in perception of the viewers mind? Okay could be fighting. Could be on top abuse. Mulling somebody Oh look. It's a new route. It's a new fight. It's a new match. Two beams was on top again. Molly somebody he must be aggressor look to be great at getting take downs but wrestling as I'm classified here wrestling is done in the open. There aren't a walls also in wrestling. There are no fences in wrestling. If you went off of the math referee would bring you back and you would then compete in the open again to be does not get a lot of take down thousand the open. In fact he gets stuffed a lot of times. He goes to a single leg which is a very ineffective. Take down for mixed martial arts. I've never really seen a mixed martial artists outside ahead of Chris Wideman who's made a career at take downs based on a single. It's just a very rare take down to be was a master of pushing against the fence and going to work from there. So if you're Tony or anybody else if you can stand your ground or push forward not back up and not be pressured and not let your back hit the fence offense against If you can do that and it appears to be a very hard thing to do but if you can do that at least on probability your chances of not being taken down though up. Jail Scare mckean from Washington Utah. It's early going to work. I'm getting near clips in real quick. Sure do you think Oh cruiserweight division. UFC Two hundred and twenty five pounds break-up that split between two oh five to sixty five fig even raise the two sixty Dr heavyweight limit what do you think enough athletes that way to cover a division for that. Thanks Joe Big Fan. I love the two twenty two to twenty five pound weight Lake Class. Just to remind you Kurt Angle. That's where Kurt Angle won his world championships in his Olympic Championships. and Kurt really would have been stock. I'm under today's scope but I'm using amateur wrestling but I think the Kurtz name that everybody can relate to that watches this went on to be a big. WWe Star look under today's scope. He is likely not only not a world champion not Olympic champion. He's likely not. Even those teams he wanted have had a weight class. Current would have had to cut all the way down to one hundred and eighty five pounds. Okay which would have been less catches his way he would have had a cannibalized. Realizes Body Kirk for four years of college was a heavyweight is a very small heavyweight when he was still a heavyweight to make believe that he's GonNa cut all the way down to one hundred eighty five. I think a stretch and I think he would have just been too small to be heavyweight. Man I want to say nine hundred ninety. Kurt was on the same team as Bruce bombed guard. He wasn't going to make the team at heavyweight so so curtain needed that two twenty pound weight class and I only offer that to you as an example. Because you could you imagine somebody who's great athlete. A world and Olympic champion is great of an athlete. Is Kurt Angle Angle. Not even being given the opportunity to compete you would have never heard of Kurt. Angle had not been established. And I think that there's probably some guys like that right now. I think there's probably probably some of these inbetween guys that they're just not quite big enough for heavyweight there too damn big you know to get down to the light heavyweight class. I agree with you. That is a big gap two. Oh five to sixty fifty five zero very big gap. I like crews have also proven my point by giving the example of Kurt Angle that there's guys athletes there that can draw. This isn't some ability ability where promoter wouldn't WanNa do it for example heavyweight. Isn't the heaviest class. You may not know that there is a class. I believe it's called super heavyweight or it's called ultra a heavyweight but the commissions all have it. ABC will can tell all commissions. Have it where you can go above two sixty five football boxing. MMA it's just extremely rarely tested. There's just not very many promoters that Wanna get in there and get him business with athletes that big in combat the first off. There's not a lot of them be very hard to form a division but secondly in a sport art like this. It's so built around conditioning. To make believe that you're going to have these three hundred fifty pound guys come in there and go out and I'm just offering for an example the other end of it I'm offering you for example there is things to do above the two sixty five pound weight class. And I think you're spot on if we're going to break something up so much talk with talked about one sixty I five. I don't really know where that dialogue came but it really got hot for a while there. Zemin guys trying to formative vision and athletes make an agreement to show up and compete at one sixty five minutes. Seem like there's a whole big pool. They're ready to do it. I love that I love the opportunity there but it does seem to me that if you could only add one class it would be more appropriate to give the opportunity thirty two the guys that are stuck with the big gap between two and five and two sixty five to your question of what I'd like to see cruiserweight. You Bet you're listening to your welcome with jail Sunday son in now back to your welcome with the heck is going on with Anthony Johnson. I would like liked to know. I can't make that into Ryan at some kind of deal with Asada. I mean that's the he is for sure. Back hundred percent came to submission underground went out and did Quintet Tat. His body is changing. Look different at quintet thirty two submission underground. There's pictures on the Internet. He's trained and he's working with veto and the guys but you know. He talked about when he talked about heavyweight but then recently he was talking about Jones and he was talking about two. Oh five I mean what the heck is going on with Rumble Johnson. And then there's the big question too because we saw this at private. Hey Man are you in the pool or aren't you so have we seen the last of GS P. We put a button on that as this talked. I don't know I don't believe that for second. In fact it's the opposite as we come to the new year. I am very confident. We are going to see your Saint Pierre in two thousand and twenty and the only issue is where are we going to see him. Let me lay out a scenario for you and it's just how how different how much difference a day can make how fast things change in this sport. Go back as recently as two weeks leaks. Dana White did an interview with somebody and he was talking about connor versus cowboys. Just just imagine this is one hundred and fifty five pound match because these are both hundred fifty five pounders holiday holiday season. They're not going to cut weight. Right down one seventy. That's what the scale but just imagine it's one fifty five okay. But he furthered that to say because if calmer winds he goes that's right into a rematch with for one hundred fifty five pounds. I think Dana was specifically talking about could be business. Tony Okay and this few guys within the division up in ours but that's what's going to happen anytime. The boss makes an announcement for a title fight. The other guys that wished that they had the title fight. They go up arms nothing new here but then as now come come out two weeks later and said yeah caught a really wants to fight mas but all for the BEF title now. It wasn't as strong as the statement is the one where Dana said if connor beats cowboy connor goes and fights for the bell. It was more of. Just this is what's on Connor's mine but that is where we then get involved right. That is where the viewer and the fan then begins to get their say in the matter. Yeah Hey do that. That's what we want to see and it does beg the question. What's bigger fight? Mas Vidal versus Mun Connor Versus Montville. That's want to factor in that isn't going to be the final decision maker. But that's going to factor in I also do have a real frustration and I hope that we can at least get on the same team and form a little bit of an army over here to push back many people actors. Jorge Mas Vidal isn't a champion. Yes he is. He has a belt one hundred percent he is a champion and connor sees that and now. Connor is adding credibility to that premise. By saying yeah you got a belt and I want it. That's why we have the belt guys. Fighting isn't as important today the day as it once was it used to be very important that your village had a good fighter because if somebody came to it it could cost you live. It could cost you territory. It was very important. Fight in this kind of combat there are not lives at stake. There is not territory there might be a couple of dollars in there might be a little bit of ego slash prestige rush who we have to have something to fight for promoter. One day came up with the idea of about any threw it out there and sure enough. It worked like dogs on a bone fighters all went for the bell. I'm one of those got. It was a real thing having that physical piece of metal and leather meant something Matt a lot. Dedicate your life to well. Mas Vidal's got that and Connor wants it. It adds credibility. Does the frustrate me anytime somebody says. Mazda all deserves the title shot. Okay Great Mazda has a title. Please don't forget that yeah well. Multiple shouldn't have been such big fight. Why is everybody keeps saying? Because he's the champion. Multiple is a champion. That just really pisses people off. It makes them upset set. It creates envy and jealousy. It's still happen in. It's still reality. And George Boswell is the champion with a belt to prove I. We need to establish that one thing that did happen throughout two thousand nineteen. Nobody called more fights than me. Nobody got hey cheile great the job you told us all these guys were gonNA fight before anybody else did okay fine and thank you for the praise but my detective work was very simple to guys go after each other in the media and then on the exact same day both guys go absolutely silent and don't start calling each other out that means the fight was made okay. That was the only thing that I did. I had no other detective skills than that but it did allow me to predict for yes. Could even Tony is done. I don't know the date I don't know where it is but just take it for me. That fights because even told her going after their coaches are going one after each other Davis talking about the fight all everybody goes absolutely signed. That means the fights done the same thing when Romero was coming after OUGHTA Sonya. They're going back and all of a sudden you don't hear anything thing about the fights done. It's one of those things. It's just one of those easy things to predict and it was the only thing that I did over here. But with that said and with the incredible streak that I was was given credit for through two thousand nineteen if we apply that same logic. Hasn't George Saint. Pierre got a little bit quietly I mean in all fairness than it isn't quite the same thing. It is an apples to apples here because he did not have a dance. Partner with the promoter in the middle in air everybody's saying they wanted the same thing but contracts just weren't good done. It's not quite the same thing but hasn't GSP gone just a little bit quiet as of late. We know he's in the gym. We've seen the pictures. His coaches come out and talked about test. We know all of these things and when you do look at the wild card that appears to be caught a right now. I car is going to get through cowboy. That's a very hard things to do you. And the odds makers in Vegas agree with me. That's a very that's a lot closer. Fight particularly one hundred seventy pounds. But let's just take connor and say he wins. Does he go down onto one hundred and fifty five pounds to fight the winner of could be versus Tony and I think that becomes a real question as well. Because at Connor just looking for big fights connor versus could could be. We know through the history of the sport the fact that it did two point four million buys which is the all time industry record and we know rematches to be bigger than the original. We don't know that it will be but we know historically oftentimes they are. But what if it isn't Kabaeva is connor versus Tony. The same magnificent facade blockbuster fight or would Tony Versus Gateway satisfied when you're then offered a connor versus versus Mas Vidal either way. What if it is Ferguson? Or could be whoever wins there. But what if. That's the reason that George has been so quiet would have George already has something in place which is why now the the ship is starting to steer in. The conversation is starting to be built around connor verses his Moslem what were the point possibly be of dangling that out there. I don't have the answers. I only have speculation for you. I just created a little bit of a conspiracy theory because conspiracies. These are fun to talk about but I was the first to tell you guys when Dana was caught by TMZ camera in Beverly Hills and said I would never do connor verses Mazda all because month but I was just just too big for him. I did tell you guys. This is a fight promoter. That's three steps ahead. And that statement isn't GonNa sit well with the Irishman and it didn't it absolutely did not and now here we are with corner at one hundred seventy pounds and I am just not convinced that he has any is of dropping down to one. Fifty five and reclaiming something. I do believe the colonel wants hardware somewhere. I do believe that he is a title collector and I do believe he sees the significance in belts but he's got his eye on a different bell. Connors not wrong to recognize is the Mazda is a champion the ones that are wrong are the fans who are seeming to resist that idea. They weren't the night that fight happened. They weren't when they walked out one side of the tunnel. George walked out. The other and Madison Square Garden is on its feet. Nobody resisted it then but when they didn't get the outcome of the match that they wanted and it was largely positive diaz crowd when they get the outcome that they wanted. They then tried to rewrite the entire script. As though it didn't even happen. Well it did happen. It absolutely happened. George Boswell is a a champion of Conor McGregor wants to come in and grab more hardware and put his finger in Georgia his chest. I think that's interesting. I think that's very very interesting. And I think that you have a lot of really good options but there is something that is very loud about the recent silence of George Saint Pierre. I don't know what to make of it. I talked to George A lot by the way I never ask him these things. I don't ask them these things. 'cause I prefer to come to you guys and talk about Georgia and talked to George I prefer. I don't always want the answers. There's something of the mystery mystery that is Saint Pierre. What's going on in his little mind? In what way class and what opponent there's something to the Ministry of that I'd rather not solve. I would rather not. I talked to George about come and talk to all of you guys. Have George seamy talking about him and then we we never talk never happened. He acts like he didn't see the video. I act to him like I don't make videos videos about him. I don't necessarily want the answer. But there is something about the way he just all of a sudden with the little bit quiet. Oh by the way at the same paintime that connor came back at the same time that now mas vidal's the biggest star in the sport at the exact same time that Uis men is looking for an opponent and the true number one contender contender. Who is Kobe? COVINGTON happens to have a job right now. And you've got one hundred fifty five pound title that's going to be contested in April between Tony and could be. There just seems like a lot oughta spots where the Great Saint Pierre could fill in any happened to shut his mouth right as all those pieces are coming together for me. It's suspicious. Why not make a resolution that will actually mean something? Do yourself a favor and save some cash with our friends at Geico with Geico it will take you only fifteen minutes to save fifteen percent or more on car. Insurance GEICO has been offering great rates and great service for seventy seventy five years. And anytime you need help you can speak to one of their train specialist. Twenty four seven go to GEICO DOT COM and start saving cash extra extra money in your pocket. It just might be the most rewarding thing you do today. My producer just asked me what is the biggest fight to make for Connor. All a whole lot of second. Are you asking me. What's the biggest in terms of? WHAT IF PEOPLE WANNA see the most or you ask me? What's the best move for Connor to make and he goes both okay? Let me try to answer but you have to understand into what a difference a day makes and what what piece what cards do we have to play here. I mean how crazy do I can I say. Conor versus saint-pierre can I say conor conor versus Tony Connor versus can be when connor could have to figure that out to see who the last man standing. It's one of these things that I don't know can be answered until Connor. Performs don't forget Conor McGregor has bought at one hundred seventy pounds twice and he fought there against the same guy and he didn't look wonderful and either fight in all fairness and he got a ton of credit for coming back as a forty five and fifty five pounds earned going all the way up to seventy and redoing everything against him opponent. Same arena same rounds. Everything's the same. I'm going to solve this problem. And he did for me to be critical and say he didn't look great in those to say that he wore down a little bit. What she I should've because of the size he should have to say that he ate a lot of punches and he dealt with them what he ate a lot of punches he did not look fantastic? It was very hard guard long drawn out battles. He got a lot of credit. I'm giving them credit to two different conversations. I think he does need to come back and show us what he can do at one seventy. I think he's got a very tough opponent in front of him should should he get by cowboy ceremony. He deserves a lot of credit. I do happen to agree with Dana. That if you WANNA use that as a qualification about to go to one fifty five if you want to keep him there and throw them into something at one seventy I do think I do think you can serve both masters because in fairness you are taking fifty five pounds and you're just wait a minute one seventy in fairness. That's what's happening here. So if you wanted as a person in a decision making position to use this match to qualify for fifty five or to test the waters. I think you've got the door open and I think you're well within your rights to do that. What is the biggest fight? What the bigger fight? Yes if Connor was to get over on cowboy grabbed the microphone and go full Connor on Jorge Mas Vidal and added a stipulation. I will only give you the red panting night if you put the belt up for grabs. That belt was supposed to be a one night one off one time but it doesn't have to be. I mean that's not. That's not a lot anywhere that's not written down in all fairness I mean. Come on we could have a little bit of wiggle room with with Bell. Sure we can in Connor puts. His face is finger and Georgia's Chess Khanna's going to have a fight with George. It's as simple as that simple as that. Anybody else as well anybody Koehler says. Hey listen. Let's be fair amongst amongst men here. I bring a lot to the table and I am going to bring you a Red Pani night. That's what I'll put up and I'll even come to your weight class to do it and I'll even do it for five row. Do everything the way you want to do it but in exchange range. I'm out here collecting trophies. You got one. You're putting it up. I can tell you right now. Mazda is going to say okay and in my opinion the way the landscape sets. It's right now. The biggest fight that you could make the answer my producers question would be connor off a win versus Mas Vidal who brings the belt. Oh all right guys. That'll do it for us for today. Enjoy your weekends but I'll see you all right back here on Wednesday and tell that I'm jail son and you you are welcome. Thanks for listening to your welcome with jail. Sunan download new episodes every week at podcast. One DOT com. That's podcast O n e Dot Com Jordan. Here I know a lot of you. Create your own. PODCAST named a lot of you already have one like me. I obviously love what I do. It's taken a lot of hard work work to get to this point of success. You shouldn't have to pay these platform hosting distribution analytics or fees to create a podcast. You need to be able to focus on producing the best asked show possible now. podcast one. That's network I'm on. They have a launch pad digital media or launch pad. Dm for short so it's Gre- includes unlimited hosting full control of distribution. 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"Thank you for listening to this podcast. One production available on apple podcasts and podcast. One. This episode of your welcome is brought to you free today by our friends at bet. Online dot AG with the Stanley Cup in the NBA finals behind us. We now turn our attention to major league baseball, the UFC Major League Soccer and much more simply put the sports action just keeps on rolling. Get in the mix that bet online dot AG and use the promo code podcast. One for your fifty percent. Welcome bonus bet online dot AG or online sportsbook, experts and the exclusive partner of podcast, one. Easter peed. It every champion from every organization. The sport of mixed martial arts has ever seen and retired from the octave, gone is the biggest draw and the industry's highest paid athlete of all time. And now now jail Sunan on odd cast one dot com and for that you're welcome. What guys happy Wednesday. And thank you for joining another special episode of your welcome heart. I happen to tell you. I am still in New York. I'm recording. This show two days early. I hate to do that to you guys. I never do that to you guys. But I'm gonna unique spot. So I had my fight and I had my let's see. So it'd be two days ago. Now, I've stayed in New York because I'm gonna head out to London. Bell towards got a big event in London flying out there with the whole family gonna call that events. Very much looking forward to it. But I'm giving you guys an excuse as to why I'm dropping a bit of a prerecord. So please, excuse me, so much going on. Let me start with myself, if I may, I've been out in New York, I had a good, wait till you and I haven't been down to, to a five five, very good way class for me, it is not too low by any means. However, I've spent. At the last twenty months at heavyweight. I was in the grand prix. And I got the call for the grand prix, then I finally have my fight, which was in January last year. And I'll Tober of last year, I got eliminated from the grand prix, I didn't know what wait they were gonna put me on. There was talking, maybe of me versus Michio or me, Josh barn. I was hearing these different conversations. I know where I was going to go. Okay, great. I get the call fight Machida. It's going to be a two hundred five pounds. So as a making my way down to two hundred five pounds, I generally do that no matter what I way, absolutely would not Matt thirty days before the way, am I start the diet, and then it's basically just calories in calories out, how much do I have to cannibalize myself, how little going to be able to eat how much of my going to have to exercise in conjunction, whole, always drink a gallon of water a day wants his diet starts? We'll drink a gallon of water a day. Now that's good for three weeks. But in the final week, it goes to two gallons day and then the final day, it's three gallons. Three. I think that impresses, you guys. I think that you understand how much water consumption that is. But perhaps you don't it is a milk jug times three, and you must get it down in one day, you cannot just sit and drink and drink, and you can drink so much. Then you have to take a break into drink. Some more. It's a real level of discipline. I must say and there's a reason I you start with three I got a new three weeks of a gallon just to go to two gals before you can get the three gallons on the point. It's hard to do. You got a Bill to it. It's like anything else you can't just go run five miles. You're going to start with a half a mile. Maybe get yourself to a mile yourself two to two and a half three so on and so forth, you get the point. The same thing goes with water. It does take a level of discipline because I must have it with me at all times via go to bed at night. That, that water jug has a sit on the nightstand. By get up in the middle nights was I gotta come back water. I wake up in the water. I leave the bedroom juggles with me. I get in the car. Jug goes with a lot of water. So I didn't everything. Right. I did everything the same way as I. I've done it for twenty years guys, the weight would just not come off. I'm gonna wait a minute. This is simple. Man. I am consuming exactly to the size. Exactly fifteen hundred calories a day, I am burning exactly twenty eight hundred calories a day, that's thirteen hundred calories to the good, that's over third of a pound a day wasn't coming off, like a thirty pound a day. Drinking the water, I couldn't figure I came out to New York, and I was twenty five when I got here, I couldn't believe it. And when I do the water and then you pull the water yet, you've got a major benefit to it. Your body's bloated with water. You stop your body, things more waters coming in. So it's more than happy to release the what, so I got down to about two seventeen to sixteen just by stopping drinking for eleven or twelve or thirteen hours. Okay. Great. But now I studied I'm still to sixteen. I got away to six. So I go to the back. Breath and for you guys don't know the bath before I condescend is throw that term out there like you should just know what it is. The bath is something that Mike Dolchai brought to the world and he brought it here from the world of bodybuilding, the bodybuilders before they go on stage and want to look out ripped and, and get the score from the judges one thing that they would do is it would get rid of their water there. What just like enemy fighters except we would do it to make a way in. They would do it to make a show and make their Avs and chest and biceps. Look more defined and better. Okay. Great. Well, these guys became masters of getting rid of water, weight, and one of the things that they would do what we did as fighters, and I come from the wrestling background, what we did as wrestlers with the boxers do as well though, what everybody in combat. Did is you basically put on a bunch of sweats you would put on something known as plastics, which is quite literally, a plastic pair of pants and a plastic top what that would do as it would stop any body heat from being released. Thus making you sweat, much, much more, you party or plastic, you go workout. So if you had to get off ten pounds you're gonna hit the treadmill, which plastics on you're going to run nonstop until that ten pounds off. Okay. Great will you could see how that would be very taxing entire thing to do. What I did my whole life. This is all we knew then as you get more advanced you get into like a college situation, they had something known as a Thon a- where you go into Asana where the temperatures two hundred degrees, you can sit there in your underwear or less, and you're just sweating, the waterway, again, physically a lot less energy being exerted, but very taxing environment. So when my dull Chait brings over the bath, what the bath means you're gonna think back as hot water as you would take just relaxing in the tub. I'm not a guy shower guy. But if you were a tub guy, no hotter than that. Then you're going to put in a combination. Three bags of Epsom salt, two bottles. Of green rubbing alcohol, and before you get in your gonna cover your body in Abilene in Abilene is simply a makeup remover. You can find it at I think I get mine wa I get this whole thing out like a WalMart. A CBS type thing they're all side by side by side. Abilene is a makeup, remover will open up your pores. And when you're trying to sweat, you want to open your force. Okay. Great. This combination I could lose about a tenth of a pound. A minute, also known as one pound every ten minutes or six pounds in the hour. Now that's only gonna last for so long as your body starts dry out a little bit. It's going to release water a little bit slower. The point is everything's going cool in the gang for me. I do my first hour. I'm down six pounds. I do my second push at forty minutes, forty two to be exact listened to a podcast called American scandal, a great podcast, but it pass those forty two minutes by. And when I got out, I lost one point eight pounds. So I did less than half. Half of what I was expected to which means now as I'm hurting as I'm deplenished, I know got a man up toughen up and get back in that bath, which I wasn't planning to do. I gotta go get more bags of salt. I gotta put more rubbing alcohol in there. I got to recover my body in Abilene. I thought I was done that was trying. That was very trying moment for me. I only had to do eighteen minutes in there and I was down to two hundred six pounds two hundred six point zero but it was a tough spot. And I don't know. I don't know what the cause of that was. I don't know if that's something with age. I don't know if I did a miscalculation somewhere, and I don't know if it was just a simple case that I had not been down to two hundred five pounds of meaningful period of time and my body. Just wasn't ready to release some of that excess water weight at any rate makeweight. Okay. Great come back to the room and I'm having a nice enough day. But I do have an absolute tradition that dates back to two thousand and nine with my mother who has never missed a single, one of my fights that. I will have a club sandwich, French fries site of ranch, and a Coca Cola big enough to swim that is my post way in meal. Well, with a loyal listeners of the show, I have told you before the horror stories of the tick, tock diner. The tick tock diner is in the basement of the New Yorker, which is the hotel that we stay and for reasons, unknown as nice of a hotel. Is it is? They only use the tick tock diner as their level of rooms or it's terrible. I have no idea how these guys are even a business, they're not even friendly in addition to having terrible food. She goes to the tick tock diner. She lives in this. I talked about loyal listeners. God bless my mother. She is a Saint, she's also a loyal listener. She still went to the tech talk diner. Not have got a club sandwich. That has absolutely. No man is on it. Which infuriates me about them. Don't make a sandwich and not put manny's on it. They don't even put it on the side. They act like you want to eat a club sandwich, dry nowhere in the world does. So don't tell me it's a diversity issue in New York, because people have more culture nowhere. In the world. Do they eat a club sandwich without putting dressing on it? No rich, by the way on the side. 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Valid six nineteen six twenty six excludes in store clearance, active licensed men's packaged flag styles. Now back to your welcome with jailed son. Make my comeback whites runs down to a store called Essex, these guys are like a whole foods anything you want there. They'll make I got a great club sandwich. Comes back my way I've finished the day off with a chicken pad Thai had some Snickers in between had a box of frosted flakes, about three bowls of those with I'm feeling great. It's I wake up it's time to fight back up to two hundred twenty pounds. I head over to the arena and I'm warming up and it's just Rory and I in a locker room they had separate, everybody when his, you know, where Madison Square Garden, great big arena, who were in the Knicks is locker room, which was kind of cool, and that a huge basketball guy, but there was still something cool about that. I've seen that locker room on TV number times, Rory nine there with our teams. So. We're getting a good warm up and everything's going fine. But this card is just a great card as of fan. I'm having a hard time focusing while enjoying the matches that are going on and looking forward to the main of it, which was Rory Rory versus Neiman. So earlier in the night. Erin, PICO gets knocked out and for Erin, PICO to lose anything I wouldn't give it was it was a card game. I wanted care if, if they were leg wrestling, if Erin PICO comes up short. It's a surprise for me. Twenty two years of age. Fantastic in everything, handsome guy body. Looks like he's carved out of clay work ethic. That is a thing of legend skills. Then this guy was an alternate for the United States Olympic team. But by the way when he was an alternate he lost a tied score. Four two four. The guy that went onto the didn't even outscoring four two four. Guess Frank molinar? Okay. He then is training, the w-. Wildcard boxing gym, Freddie. Roach likes him so much. He brings him in as a sparring partner for Manny. Pacquiao. This kids only eighteen years old at the time comes into Bella Tori's got all the hype around him. And of course, what happens. What happens that everybody's very I like they lay he gets kinda geeky choke it gets choked out, like fifteen seconds. It was just it was, it was hilarious. It was so bad. Okay. Well, got that first one out of the way he goes on a tear and he frankly, frankly he was on a tear in this last fight. The fight was about eight minutes in everything's going, peco's goes way. He's not standing up and trade and being quite as dangerous on his feet like he loves to do. He's been a little bit smarter in using some of that high level wrestling kinda showing a little bit of everything. It's a very good performance, but he's also win there with a very tough fighter if he just started looking down, he started telegraphing a little bit of what he was going to do is looking down. Now, I'm getting ready to shoot in the guy just jumped up with a flying knee. Put them out. It was as simple as that but it was a very stunning moment from. I'm looking at this guy does everything right lives. The live stays home at night goes to bed early gets up early hits the I mean really does everything perfect in a world or Olympic champion would do. But in this sport, it is not two, plus two to plus two does not equal four in mixed martial arts who plus two equal nine somedays. It could equal eleven on Sundays it equal three on some days. We only have basic ideas of what's going to work. That is all we are left with, this is still an experiment mixed martial arts at the highest of levels of still in experiment. The highest of levels it is still in the infancy stages. I have watched wonderful fighters. Vanity soba comes to mind, wonderful final show gun, who comes to mind, who have said, who have come out publicly and been very candidates had guys. Fi could do my career again. I would've trained different as we were all starting as sport with starting to form, and as we're all trying to figure out, it just made sense to us that the harder you fought in practice the harder, you could fight under the lights the bigger blows. You took in practice. The more you can get used to taking those big blows in fights there. Right. And before anybody Snickers goes. How did you cope with the totally right? Yeah. I get that they're up there, right on that logic. And I went through it to the harder. You let's put on the little gloves, and no headgear. Let's go today without mouthpieces, that'll make us really tough. The more pain the more you could suffer the worse. It was the worst conditions. The worst food you can eat the leash you could sleep at night, all these different things major tougher, major better, who's going to work who's a sacrifice your pain. Door finding out that it just not necessarily true good to get good sleep at night. Great disbar with trustable partners in headgear and appropriate sized gloves. Full size. Sixteen ounce gloves. And then on top of all of that don't fight just go in and Spar. I use that as an example, because I know that it's one that you guys have heard that you'll be able to understand. But some of the other philosophies of mixed martial, we just don't know yet. If you asked me, what is a perfect athlete. Need to do a perfect at what do I want my son? If he goes into the sport. What do I want him to do? My dream, you're gonna fall shortage, as but if I had a dream, and I laid it out guys, I would tell you right now, it would be in PICO. I want my son to treat people. I want him to act like I want him to carry himself I want him to address like I wanted to trae like the discipline. I want them to eat like, Arab PICO. It seems to me on all levels of logic. That is your perfect scenario of discipline of focus of. Hard work of grit and determination. And I think, right, even with the examples that I've laid out even being fully aware that we are still in an experimental phase is still come to the same conclusion venit. Right. But to push through does not equal four. We're not baking chocolate chip cookies here, you could put in the flower, and you can put in the butter and you can put in the sugar you can put in the chocolate chip, she could crack the eggs, go whippet altogether. You can beg at four twenty five for fifty two eighteen minutes doesn't mean it turns out. Right. So what is there a PICO do? And by the way guys, I'm talking specifically about Aaron PICO, because I'm a tremendous PICO believer in a tremendous Arab PICO fan for those of you that may not even be familiar with who Aaron PICO is insert in name, you want, because this is a young man on a journey who has stared at the landscape, who understands competing who understands a round system who understands out working his opponent goes out. And does all of those things, but doesn't have an unblemished record. It is very shocking. And it's very peculiar. What will we be? Doing in ten years, where whereas MMA going where was the training and the preparation and the philosophies going, and I don't have those answers all that I'm able to identify for my experience over this weekend. Is it we're not there yet to push to is not for what we think we know is that necessarily, what we know it's a very interesting way to start out the night, call, we'll goes out there and fights. He's fighting Horiguchi. This is a rematch co promote Bella tour with Reisen called. Well, I did the favor. He went over to Japan fought Risa lost a horrid. Gucci. I found that to be upset, a lot of insider said, no, not so fast. It's hor Gucci is the real deal day Lambert. What is far as to say, this is the best guy I've ever seen at this way class tremendous compliment from the head of ATT. So they go out there and finding call will really did everything that call. We'll wanted to do I think call. Well really wanted to get to position in the also wanted to get there safely in their first fight. He was submitted with the think he wanted to get the position safe. Louis secure himself. Get to what we call concrete or base position. He did that the bad news for Caldwell is what he wanted to do was not enough to win the fight when he would get Horiguchi down when he would get saved when he would predict his protect his neck, avoid that guillotine all the other submission hold him in that position. Not let Horiguchi up he offered no level of offense not from striking component where he was loaned some ground pound from grappling component where he's looking to pushing these down past guard he offered no level of offense. I think that for what his strategy was, and what he wanted to go out there. And do I think he was an overwhelming success? I think in hindsight, you had a bad strategy. I think it was as simple as that Horiguchi for bad positions was able to out work out strike out. Score Cobol very rare that, that happens really. The reason I bring this up and don't just close over. It's very rare that you will see a guy on top the entire time lose. I mean very, very rare. I'll have to go all the way back to a meaningful fight a championship fight like. This one was, I would say that has only happened one other time that would be boss rootin- versus Kevin. Ramble man. And I believe that took place in nineteen ninety nine to put a perspective for you, how long ago that was Randall men spent twenty five minutes on top of boss boss, just hit him. Elbowed him and hit him and what the entire time and there was no way to give random around. He didn't out strike boss. Even though we had position he didn't look to advance position, even though he was on top. There was no way to say the random beat boss, don't we got beat up from Tom fair rare. But when you see it is worth pointing out fast forward a little bit Dylan. Dances up. Dylan Danas has come in with so much hype. And he's done everything. So. Right. And he's so fun. And there's something around him and a lot of it's the booze. Right. And then you got the few people that they get it, and they like it, and they're cheering the booze. And the cheers is what sells tickets. Guys the booze. And the cheers is what moves the business. For the wiles is what comes in between. And so many guys want to go out there and they want to have a while performance. They want to tell you that it will tell you come in and watch the fight. I'm gonna wow. Yeah. Wow. The wiles. Don't drive business. Boos and cheers drive business period. Whiles come in between, once you get the audience there and you could the eyeballs go ahead. And wow him some of these guys come with wrong aspects Dylan. Dan offers the wild once he's in there, but it's not what he's selling what he's selling his mystique. He selling confidence. He selling attitude. He goes out there. He is so proficient in jujitsu when he gets guys to the ground is just a thing of beauty to walk exactly what happened. But what happens now fails up? So I go out there with Machida looking across bringing him, you know, I know part of this fight that I ever love how much he moves on his feet. I really respect the way that he can control distance with any opponent, and I didn't see myself and within my own skill. Set somebody that was different. I just didn't sit by. I'm not different than these other guys who have some come to Machida in my ability to get my hands. But I do have one big advantage, which is I have footage of him. Some of the guys that fell before me. Simple, we'd never seen Machida. We'd never seen the skillset we never seen a guy doing these kinds of kicks to win these kinds of straight on a tax two and three punches at a time straight in chin back hips. Ford chest behind this hip very, very awkward style. I got it. So I sold my you know what? Yeah, you'd be. All right. We'll be right out there. I have a few ideas I can close this ain't get hold of this guy. And I was able to do that within about ten seconds ten seconds of I got my hands on this guy. He's pushed up against the fence, I pulled back, once I thought I had that nice thought I'd pulled back with all my mind, I was gonna rip them right off this put him on his back and he was never going to get up. Well, I, I did everything I plan to do. My hands came right off of them. I went back to pull him. My hands came right now. We're back in the open. Okay. I gotta get my hands on we get. And I felt like in the clinch there was some opportunity there, but he was still moving really well, and at some point in the fight, and I know told you remember this fight guys kind giving you the best I can hear I might even be spot on. But I might have a couple of holes. So don't feel that you need to crack me. But at some point in the first round, he history with a knee, and I remember when this knee I could hear it hit hit me so hard, as I'm falling to the ground, and there's a bit of a surreal moment. I've had a couple of people as it were you, not that was in a flash knockout. I don't know how to answer that question. I do not know I've been knocked out one of the time in my life. It was in the gym by Dan Henderson. And I still deny it to this day that I was knocked out, and he insists that I felt like a tree, and then it move. I thought I remember that entire situation and completely disagree with his assessment, but the point is, when you are knocked out or when you have a flash knock will really wouldn't matter what kind of not what you don't always have your wits. You will see. Guys, come to in both boxing MMA that have been knocked out and deny it fully do not know come on. I want more as they're stumbling around on, on, on baby deer feet. Right. Maybe dear legs. So I couldn't some of that, but he hit me with a very hard name before. I know it I'm underneath them any swinging away. I will tell you guys this. I never get credit for this most of, you don't know this about me, and it really doesn't help you a whole lot within the sport. But my absolute best position is on bottom, and Emma and getting out get enough. I'm known for that in the gym you could ask my I've known for that we drills. Well guys, gotta stay down for five minutes. And somebody comes he's got one guys on top until he gets away if he ever gets away. He goes back down. Fresh guy comes, I'll run through those guys three and four times and five minutes they cannot hold my very slippery down there so much. She doesn't top of me and he's done it overly big guys don't over the heavy guy had. I've had heavyweights on top of the work kind of changes rules a little bit. I wasn't able to get up and he kept very busy. He was throwing something in my face, and it's very tough when you're on bottom. Getting grounded pounded because you need your hands. I need my hands to get up off the bottom any the post with my hands possibly with a post on the canvas possibly, I'm gonna post on his body, but I need my hands Kagan up without my hands. When guys punching you in the face you need your hands to the block. Those punches we'll before, you know, it your internal position trying to protect yourself with both hands because you've got to make a decision. I got punches coming. I gotta cover punches quit come when I it's one of these things. So eventually back to my fate. Okay. Great coming up for the second row. Well problems all has got a really good knee. I didn't seem been with five minutes. Not having a lot of other problems having a hard time getting to. But I'm not having a lot of problems with his office. He just got a knee all chair walked into another knee, essentially that brought the fight to conclusion which brings me to my interview and guys I retired I had enough. I had a five fight deal with villa tour I offered my contract and I retired from the sport and I trust that you guys saw that I trust that you did. But I don't want to be arrogant and make it as though you should know what I did over the weekend. So that's essentially, how that went and I had some wonderful memories. So wonderful times, met some great people made some good friends saw some great cities. I had no regrets. What I was asked to question in. Somebody asked me, how do you wanna be remembered now that you're gone from eminent? And that's always a tricky one for me, because I would hate to answer that question from the bottom of my heart and then in salt in entire other group of people. In similar spots that don't share by ideology. So it's always a tough one how I answer them. And the candidate answer is simply this. It's wonderful to be remembered all of you guys work, and all of you guys work hard, very few of you get recognized for that. When you put yourself in a spot like say a mixed martial artist that can be a double cutting sword. Right. You can get recognized but then you can also get blamed and faulted. So the average person who works very well. Just simply never get credit. He'll never get told good job, particularly by a stranger unless it's fellow co worker, they wouldn't even know that it happened. So I always felt that I was in a really fortunate spot to get those pats on the back to feed your ego to lift you up to get you through the day. I was always very grateful for that. And when asked how do you wanna get remembered? There was a part of me that just flashed back to being in high school in seeing guys return to the football games. Who had graduated previous years? And they're wearing their Letterman jackets back to the high school. That's a little bit weird. You have to move on who have to move on. Glad that you're proud of the school. Glad you're proud that you with your but to return to the school wearing the Letterman's jacket of a year that predates this year by two seasons is weird. You have to be able to move on. And I don't know that I would be totally honest with you to tell you that I don't want to be remembered, it's very nice thing. And it's even a humbling thing in. It's a major compliment to the highest levels. But I also wanna be open and honest with you guys if I told you that I wanted to stay locked on June fourteenth of two thousand nineteen or backing up to my very first fight in August of nineteen ninety seven that was a career, and that was a period in time, but when that comes to an end, I wanna make sure that I'm ready and able to move forward. I have seen the world be a very big place. I have seen people get stuck in the cracks. And some of them are people who mentored me, some of them are people who I looked up to, and I took a lot from, but some of the things in the greater things that I took from a lot of those mentors as what not to do, because I watched them, whether it was to lose the competition. And well, I one more try and has every drug addicts mistake, it's the mistake of every alcoholic, it's a mistake of every gambler out there one more drink one more joint one more seat at the table. If I only would have done this, if I only would have done that next time will be different. I see that mistake, and I see people getting stuck in the cracks of the world. And I don't fault them, and I don't tease them. I do not mean to condescend to them. I just wanna be aware of it. So that when I go through when I see the people who came before me, and many of them, who did a better job than I did. But if I was to call them today, and ask them, why are you drunk at noon? They would tell me because the result of the competition, and I will have to remind them that competition took place. In nineteen ninety six in Atlanta at the Olympics, and will always think it's very important that you let go it, it's easy for me to sit here and say it is much harder to do. But it is still my goal. And it is still. My vision is still my ideology, and it will tell you just in my own house. There would not be any pictures of me up. I am children. I have pictures of my children up. I haven't. Ankle, and it was a tremendous example to me. My uncle is an Olympic gold medalist from the nineteen sixty four men's basketball team for the US. He also wanted least to NBA championships. It's always been disputed, in our family. Did he win two or did he win three? I don't actually know the answer. This is my own Oncle. Christmas about ten years ago, I said when I say, hey Mel, you got the medal in rings. He said, yeah, I got the Olympic gold medal. I got the rings why I said, I've never seen an Olympic gold medal. Will you go? Get it Christmases at his house. He was hosting. He said. Yeah. No one's ever asked y'all. Go get it. So he goes up stare and it's like forty minutes before he comes. They couldn't find it. I don't know where it was. It was so he brings it down. It's in this beautiful box or at least what was meant to be a beautiful box. It was blue it was felt it had a nice little gold latch on the front. This thing was, so dusty and dirty it was disgusting. I didn't want to. I don't know where this was, but he's got Olympic championship in two NBA titles. He couldn't find it. And the reason is he has five children, what he did in nineteen sixty four doesn't have a damn thing to do with what he's going to do with the rest of his life. And as much as. I'm preaching to you guys. Yes, I fully admit I also share with you guys. This is also a counseling session as much as I pretended that I got all the answers. All I've got is a pretty good blueprint. But it's a struggle. If you have the death, it's very hard thing to deal with even if it's a death of a career, and that's where I'm at, and I will tell you, I already only remembering the good it was much like junior high my junior, high wasn't experienced wasn't any different than the rest of your guys look back on. I really don't remember the bad days. I don't really remember the teasing the bullying of the pushing or shoving her name. 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But let me let me I want to explain why for us to not tell me anything that he has not told the public many times before I read these things, he has come out and told anybody who's asked. Okay. But it was still different here. It directly from him. It was different seeing the body language and seeing the expressions of being face to face. We're warming up and I look up at frost. Well, we're not we're, we're actually done my fights over rois fights over. We're in the locker room he celebrating. I'm singing the blues, I look over for us. And I said, hey, are we going to get to see George saint-pierre again, if Ross it, I really think so he said that the formulas real easy and. Again. He said this before I'm not breaking news here. But it was the way he said it, it was very matter of fact, which is just simply answering the question there was no hype, there was no promotion, there was no media involved. There was no selling of himself, as Jim George, nothing at it's two guys talking he said, here's the scenario could beat her Mogomedov news and not only beat Dustin poor a he needs to run through Dustin Pori at which point, a hundred sixty five pound division needs to be formed, and George saint-pierre will show up opposite could be. But it needs to be Khabib. There must be a dominant win over Dustin, and it must be for world championship one hundred sixty five pounds. He has set all of those things before, but many people would then leave comments below, which I would remain, which then would serve to influence me. I'm sure you guys are guilty of that, while, you know, this is promotion or you know, he's trying to keep his his pupils name out there. So maybe is I don't know. I, I really don't know. So I asked him straight up in the back in private. And he laid out the road map for me three steps. Quite frankly. It was a little bit different. I've never read that at least I don't think you guys have ever heard completely what I said before he has said that four could be and four hundred sixty five that he believes George will come back for him to lay in the different element there, that he must dominate Dustin. Now, I don't know. That's Georgia's requirement to go look at you. You must at least have the world preceived that you're worth my time. I don't know if that was a requirement or if that was more a coach frost thinking, they're not going to allow could be to go to one sixty five informa- championship the data's openly set. I'm not going to do and I'm never gonna do so quit talking about it. Perhaps they think the dominant went over Pouria would then instill a power with incubated partnered with George saint-pierre to come back. No, I can't help but hear that and go man as a fan. That's, that's huge news for all of those reasons. I like everything you're saying. I like the one sixty five pound division. I don't eat. But you could also say any of it, you could tell me it's one hundred five pound. Division. You could tell me two hundred twenty five pound division. I just like divisions. I like opportunity I like parody. I like when we can then cross Bracken and get those guys in. I love when you got a belt and the belt, I just liked it. I get a kick out of it. It's also why I've been a supporter of the interim championship. I like it belt versus belt title versus title, whether it was Carin. Shane carwin vs Leser whether it's we're going to see with neighbors is could Beadman there's just something on that for me at any rate. I did find that to be very compelling. But I can't help it. Then think about that fight. And I think we're all very quick by all. Yes. Very broad stroke there. But I think that we're very quick to dismiss anybody opposite George saint-pierre by simply Saint George's. The greatest fighter time and the conversation just ends. Well, why is it? George could be could be. Because Georgia's great fighter full-time conversation ends before we do that. And yes, you guys are very right to say that you are. Intellectually schooled in the history of mixed. Martial arts to say that George saint-pierre is the greatest fighter to ever live. Before we just try to dust off this conversation though. Don't forget, that could be deroga- medoff is only lost one round in his entire life and has never lost a fight. So while could be does not have the standard as the greatest of all time, yet, he's only a couple of wins from it, it could be can all of a sudden start switching weight classes, whether it's with Georgia, not if he can switch weight class, if he can show some. I mean, it is a very interesting. It's a lot more interesting than a lazy man's approach to Georgia's the greatest of all time. And then just dismiss whoever stated across from I, I tend to do it to you wanna tell me anybody, but it's against George saint-pierre. Here's my credit card. What is much max thing out in put it on that guy from Canada? I get it. But to dismiss a guy who was only lost one round in twenty six fights. Not only won a world championship is a sitting reigning world champion incubating. I think that might be a little bit silly. I just think that might be a little bit silly to. Dismiss anybody against Moore's guy, I gotta do any one or two hundred fifty five pounds not for nothing. The toughest weight and all of MA our friends at geiko want to save you some cash and even better. You don't even need to leave the house. All you have to do is go to Geico dot com. And in fifteen minutes, you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance extra money in your pocket. It just might be the most rewarding thing you do today, and I would be remiss if I didn't mention this to you guys, I had a note from our sponsor that online dot AG. And this is not an advertisement for you. This tipped me off this when they reminded me of fantastic. 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What's the difference the world's already gone? There's a level of that in punching power as well. JD connects with you. He'll put your ass out. Well, guess what? And Gano hits even heart. What's that? You're, you're already out he. What is what's harder than out in the world fighting? That's what you've got to deal with. And when you have that kind of thing, always want to go with the speed. There is a variable though, okay? In intangible, as I know you guys love to hear me say, and then his who's who could take the harder punch. That never really gets discussed. So does we always get a number with those big shots? But we forget who's got the better chin. I don't actually have that answer for you. But I would like you guys to think about it because it is a little bit more compelling. Francis chin has not been tested as much, which contrary to popular belief makes it a stronger chin, the tested chin becomes tender, the tested chin can take less perhaps. That's we're JD assets. 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Contender Season

You're Welcome! With Chael Sonnen

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Contender Season

"Thank you for listening to this podcast wine production. Now, available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. You're welcome is brought to you for free today by our friends at bed online. Get in the mix at Bet online dot ag use the Promo Code podcast one for your new welcome bonus that online your online sportsbook experts and the exclusive partner of podcast one sports net. WHO Could jail. Could share. This isn't a Guy. She'll. have. Not even around. Defeat This. Oh Yeah. He goes to bed. Yeah. Coup. What's happening guys happy Wednesday and thank you for joining and other special episode if you're welcome. Oh what a weekend. Okay. Start with the main event. So much to unpack on a steep a there really is and. I'm GonNa do something right now call burying my lead. I'm GonNa give you a preface before I. Give You my point, which is the opposite of what you should discuss anything. None of what I'm about to say is to kick or second guess anybody but this is a post fight conversation. So whenever you have in a post fight conversation, all you can do is look back and think of and discuss what could have been. Whether it was stylistically what could have been done different to get a different outcome. Or in this case The way is still very relevant when you're trying to guess what could have been the Wayne is very relevant. So let me start with but I want any part of this to sound negative. Because this was not negative moment, this was an absolutely fantastic moment. And very reminiscent of Uis men versus Covington and that the number. One thing that we found at the end of this contest wasn't who was first and second. The number. One thing that we identified is that we had previously identified the right to guys. No question when you get done watching. Kobe, you have found the to baddest dudes in the world no question when you get done watching Steve and Daniel. You'll put the right to guys in one of those things. So we have to back up though to the way in I can't let this go. Daniel. Wait in a two hundred and thirty six pounds, which is the exact same thing that he weighed in. In his second fight with CPI. The big question becomes when we're armed with the fact that he had cut wait to make the one, thirty, six for the second fight was deeply. We still do not know why he cut wait. He did not want there to be visually discrepancy between their two waits for whatever reason however that made him feel or however that. Presented within his approach that's what happened and we know that as a fact because Andy, fostering California ways the athletes in the second day fight day. Now it doesn't matter what you way. Andy. Just takes notes on that. Daniel Way to forty eight the next day. A heavyweights who has thirty pounds under the agreed upon limit would not gain any weight from to day. Because you gain weight through rehydration and nothing else. A heavyweight who is thirty pounds under would never need to rehydrate unless he cut wait. I'm spelling out what seems to me to be very if it's not obvious to you though that perhaps I'm condescending but to put that, put an exclamation point on that perspective is steep a his opponent. I'm going back to the second fight steeping his opponent who waited two hundred and thirty pounds waiting with Andy Foster the next day at two hundred and thirty pounds your weight would not move at all. And if you come to go guys a half pounder guys. Yeah. Same thing, right. Twelve pounds not the same thing which means Daniel dehydrated. That's fine but it happened. And it was a point of interest. One of the keys to go in up to heavyweight for most athletes or changing weight classes is all as they wouldn't have put the taxing part on their body. Of dehydrating, rehydrating the fact that Daniel did that is of question. The question is very simple which is why There's no wrong answer to that but we're still left at why That becomes relevant because Daniel had told us before this fight. told us three things and really only three things. Point Number One, I am going to take stay down nonstop and what I take him down. He will never get up. I am five take downs away from reclaiming my world championship Great Strategy One thing that he told us. Second thing he told us is that in the second contest, he got a little bit tired. One way he was going to combat getting tired was to bring his weight down which brings you to point number three, which is he said he would be south of to forty. So, when he gets on the scale at two, thirty six. That is very different than the second fight if and only if he was fully hydrated. If his natural body fat had come down his natural way to come down therefore, he is going to get into the ring at north of to forty as he weighed in at it's very relevant. And you're seeing it right now with Derek Lewis, by example. Derek Lewis does not have a new training regimen. He does not have new coaches in a new way of viewing the sport and therefore he's got this new outlook within his performance. He's just taking some weight off. And everybody has a number. And heavyweights would be very Normal. Even. Right. To look at that number as whatever the commission said, and then be under a commission says, I can be to sixty five anything under two, sixty, five boom. There's my number that's one way to look at it. But again, if you look at what Derek Lewis is doing, he's going on and I don't I just need to beat the to sixty five I need to pull this down. So I can move a little better and increase my interest. Tie that in with Daniel Seem get on the scale at two, thirty six all the way in is greatly aside from a protocol. is an ultimate chance to do the old adage of read a book by its cover. You GonNa, take a look at both of these athletes, and then you get to judge them. Okay. This guy looks more in shape than he did last time or he looks lesson shape than he did last time. And then you start to form your opinion from there and it all three of their contests after the way in. The line moved. The line for Daniel. St. Bay part one was two and a half two one favourite steep when they went. But there was a narrative going around that steep is GonNa just be too big period end of story. Well, Daniel weighed in more than st pay all of a sudden that narrative gone in the money starts coming in on Daniel. You go to their second fight steep a ways in eleven pounds less than he did for the previous one. That was very concerning. The line moves again I st pay, which would make it appear that went in favor of Daniel, then you see the third way in. The line moved the least in the third fight after the way and of any of the contests but it did move because Daniel did make his mark of south of to forty. All right. So there's a story there. There's something relevant to be made the weight more than just what I'm making. So when it comes fight night and Daniel gets the rang it's very obvious that he cut for the way. What is it as office because this wasn't under Andy Fosters jurisdiction is what exactly does he way? No. Second Day Way and we'll never know the answer that but I will tell you he was a lot closer to two fifty than he was two, thirty six. Question. Starts. To become. Why Now. The main reason Daniel wanted to take weight off and this is according to Daniel. He's right on this but these aren't my words are Daniels isn't what just increases endurance? He's right now that wasn't a factor in this contest. Daniels endurance to just fine no problem there. So he found a way likely through mental toughness and extra cardio training. To extend that match. So how much of a dialogue do you want to put on the weight? Very hard to quantify that. But if you come to the conclusion that there should be no emphasis put on the weight. You would be in disagreement with Daniel himself. There is a reason he cut the weight. There is a reason that he wanted to give a certain appearance in a certain perception. My logical conclusion though not necessarily right. It's just my conclusion. Is because he knew it was important that he was south of to forty. Instead, he came in just south of to fifty. So there's something to be made of that as you look back. When you look at the fight itself. You do have to look at the three things that Daniels said we're going to send in order, but he had to pieces on the weight which we've covered but he had one tho- one piece on the XS and Os of the fight itself which is I'm going to take him down and he's never going to get up. My belief going into that as a guy that stand back and watching the whole thing is you're gonNa have a really hard time taken down but you are right on the second part. He's not going to get up you're you're too big and too good in that position you will keep steep a down. You will win that round you will do some damage and you will change state, but you gotta give them their first. I'm not buying into this idea that you can just go out and do that all night long or even once parental it's GonNa be hard St base hard to deal with. But should you get him there yet you're likely to keep them down well, okay. Let's take a look at that. Let's take a look at how that played out. Very first round Daniel Kitson on that single like he finds a way on top of steep problems debates up. So the plan worked fifty percent right fifty from fifty percent of the time. It worked one hundred percent of the time, but it worked halfway steep got backup. So now Daniel is forced. To compute the math right appear because there's a fighter you're always taking inventory as an athlete of any kind you're always taking inventory. How do I feel? How do I think he feels what is the score and how much time is left? In, your strategy is going to change constantly. Within that formula. So Daniel it looked like he took him down with some effort but fairly easily he went for one shot one attack and he founded generally you're going to have to put two and three attacks together. Daniel went for one he got some resistance, but he also got when he was looking for the other side of the coin CPA pop back up. So, now, all of a sudden is the juice worth the squeeze worth using that energy to get a take down to not be rewarded. By keeping their. That's the math in the computation that has to be done. Daniel -duced. No, it is not worth it. Not only did he never take steep down again? He never attempted to those are two different conversations. Should have he attempted to take stay down and failed wherever the totally different conversation? Than the one we are having which is he never attempted it again. So, again, in a post fight looking back, you're left with why? I feel as though I have the answer I know what I saw in the second content, I contests second contest, and in this contest, which is he didn't see the opportunity. Stephen, it was doing a good job moving his feet. CPA has a good job sticking something for you have to see a shot if to see and it's a split second for trade wrestler. But it still it still has to happen. With steep is keeping something in your face can't see it. When steep as moving his feet, you can't see it when steep as not locking up with you and he did not lock up with Daniel until the fifth round. You're. Not. Seeing it, and now you're not even feeling it. Just makes it tough just makes it tough to close that distance and make that big spurt of energy. Okay They trade I poke eye pokes big part of the story St Bay came out after the fact and say the I poked in it affect me. They don't like it in the moment but it had no long-term effects down came out and said, I couldn't see for two rounds very relevant. However, you decide to put that into the fight. It's very relevant and I've heard some people even say Was this a just victory there was an unjust illegal technique. And therefore does it negate the victory? And before we get off the ground on that, let's stop that right where it starting. Just versus unjust not how these contests are decided is it official or is it not yet official? That's how they're decided. The outcome of this contest is official closed. The book nothing left to steer her congratulations debate. That's how this works. I wasn't crazy about the idea. Of Let's all, lift? Up and blow some sunshine up his ass because he's such a great guy and now he's writing off to the sunset without what he? Not having what he wanted. What. Daniel wanted out of his athletic career was nothing short of amazing. It was nothing short of selfish. Two things you have to have to get very far to combat sport that is a singular sport without a team. The reason I say that I, mean that in the utmost as a compliment, but he was various champion of the world. We found out Saturday he's the second best. Not. We'll see a lot of title fights were whoever Wednesdays Number One, but whoever lost slides down to eight? SLIDES DOWN TO NINE Commonly. Falls down to sex how do you go from from? Well all based on your performance had Daniel not retired I would maintain for you. He will come in at number two right now one of the few guys who can lose a world title fight and not lose any ground. which again, in recent memory I can only compare to Covington. The one thing we found out and both the welterweight title fight. And this heavyweight, we got the right to guys. Now we got to figure out the order, but we've got the right to so think about that if I'm right which I am. That means Daniel Cormie could walk into any house on. Planet Earth Any neighborhood, any city, any state, any country, and he conned any way you want to do it. It'd be the baddest dude in the world as long as he doesn't show up at the St residents do we really need to feel bad for him? Did A, Guy who by the way extended his own personal record most athletes as they get older don't get better doing something. Let's say instead of judging this on a unified rules of the. System we look at this the way track and field looks at things, which is only about personal pr. It has nothing to do with. Can I beat the guy next to me? It has to do with did I get a personal record I do my best tonight I do better tonight than I did before. When you have an aging athlete generally that answer is no. Sadly, as human beings, we just don't get better with time. We have a metric to look at before anybody thought Daniel should retire including himself before any anybody thought Dan will finally got caught up to by father time we have the second contest. Daniel one, two rounds according to a judge and made it less than twenty minutes. In this contest, he went to rounds according to a judge and he went all twenty five minutes. He did better in the third fight that he do the second by Daniel, Cormie is getting better. With age. And it's a book closes and somebody's GonNa. Cry In their beer over the second baddest dude alive who by the way is in the over forty club who else in that? Manning farve. Cormet who the hell else is in that. Jordan is it then that? Lance Armstrong is in that Mohammed Ali. Mohammed actually got up there muhammed actually got have to get out. Of Rule I, actually have to get out and look into that one a little bit but I feel as though I've proved my point. There is nothing here for Daniel or any of us to look at four Daniels behalf. Other than. Dude. Thank you for the memories. Congratulations on an amazing career and what a way to go out. Many steps? Fighters are known for going in descending order. They started at main event and they went to Co mate event. They slid down on the car they ended up on the undercard and they got washed out of the business. He went out the highest level. MINUS MINUS HALF AN INCH. Bit World Title Fight Trilogy Setting Pay per view records went the absolute distance with the absolute best of all time and it was pretty competitive. Over, forty very remarkable career. Very tough to come to the conclusion of Hey Dana let me throw an arm around you and remind you about the good old days. The good. The good old days were Saturday. The good old days where you have one I never said a word about it until it was done pushed through did it s for breaks nobody feel bad for you never fell down once pushed and pushed and pushed, and then turned to the judges cards. If that's a bad day in your career. WHO You Very. Special career. Buying online is a lifeline for lots more people these days rock auto DOT COM, a family business that has been serving autopart customers online for twenty years guys go to rock auto, DOT COM and by auto and body parts from hundreds of manufacturers. They have everything from suspension to breaks, parts for tail lamps and motor oil. Even trailer hitches get everything you need for your daily driver or classic with few easy clicks delivered directly to your door the rock auto dot. COM Catalog. Is Unique and remarkably easy to navigate. quickly, see all the parts available for your vehicle and choose the brand's specifications and prices. 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I go look at the heavyweights and I tell you the champion and I'll tell you number ten that's a mismatch. Same thing. Same thing on down same time through the women's division. Men's one hundred and thirty five pounds. One through ten. You want to put that in a tournament format by example, where we could actually prove this through a competitive architecture tournament but one through ten have a tournament. Now go have that same term those same. Ten guys. Three more times. One hundred percent guarantee you we get different results all the way down from WHO's going to win the tournament who's GonNa come in fifth. to WHO's going to come in number ten they are going to change that it's going to look like something totally different. Just. One of those weights, one of those times. So for the fact that cheater to get over on Sean, should it be all that big of a surprise if Sean Beaten Cheetahs been all that big of a surprise. For reasons unknown to me that are now clear to the world as a whole Cheeto is completely dismissed in this buildup sean to that fight like a three or three and a half two. One favourite. Shawn's great fighter. Cheeto Vera has won six of his last six. Now before you correct me, I'm well aware. that. Officially, he won five of his last six. He should've won all six share my opinion, but it's it's shared by the masses shared by his opponent who was given the victor that night who did not think he won the fight. Let's not try to revise history. Let's accept it and tip our hat to them. Okay. Great. Then he's five of his last six Chino bear one, five, his last six in the most competitive division in the sport, you can't dismiss that guy. He simply cannot be a three and a half two one favourite he he just can't. Just can't anybody you're GONNA put them in there with five of his last six six of his last six everyone. Out. That's Above impressive Sommese. And two guys and Sean and Cheeto. who were given a tip of the hat by Dana himself in that, they were given a coma bent spot when by the way junior though Santos, a former world heavyweight champion is on the card. These were two really good fighters. Outcome could go any which way however many times you want to do that fight. There is a bigger story here, which is Sean Ankle? And I do not know the extent of it. But I will tell you a sprain. Ancol. On the upper part of the ligament where this appears to be happening in many ways in many doctors have weighed in and have agreed. Is a more. Worrisome in terms of longevity and witnesses going to heal. Injury. then. The compound fracture suffered by Andersen's Sylvan the Chris Whiteman fight. While what appears to be more gruesome in his certainly more invasive in terms of repair, it can do just that and repair. And an upper ankle sprain according to many there's a whole piece whole piece done on social media, somebody grant volumes, doctors from all around the world that watched the fight and they always in. I'm giving the overarching analysis in conclusion by them. But apparently, there is something with that part of your body. It's very tough to heal and it doesn't need to be broken in separated and pin back together can be very tough to heal from Shawn's out there fighting. You guys know why bring this up right this is the second time. He. Ended up in a match where he's limping around on one foot to close out the match, and then he does that very famous interview worries flat on his back and Joe. Rogan gets down on his hands and knees and interviews like this was a great moment. Great. Great piece of television. But we know that Sean has this and Sean comes out and he's throwing look great quite frankly. Shomali Great. He was controlling distance and range, which is very hard to do. Those are largely words. This some analysis will give analysts will give, but it's very hard thing to actually do to control range and know where you are. Watching Shawn beady little eyes. If you go back and watch this fight, go back watch it again. Just watched Shawn's is. They never leave the target. He is completely focused in this kind of sport of two places to look. You can either look at the Athletes Chester you can look at his head as an athlete you're going to look at one of the two. I Dunno sean was locked on his face or his chest. But what whichever one he was locked in there was nothing that could make him change. His mind he'd have kicks thrown out of he blocked kicks and he'd never leave the target heat up punches. He deal with the punches or eat the punch and he'd never loses focus very interesting. If you watch John's is he was very engaged in this match. Very good focus. Then he starts some kicks themsel-. He's led him to the legs Leonard to the body, but the one thing with a kick. That can really hurt your ankle. If you have an ankle issues in any part of your ankle touch that tarp, right I mean you get it that that that just makes sense. But to share with you how this happened, that would be a good guest. Also just moving around the octagon, he could have had a strange moment. So it was something that happened to Michael Chandler versus Brent Primus if you guys saw that fight. You just have one of these moments where it's hard to identify where did this happen? But we know what happened. So at some point in the fight, song goes down. He liked drops down to me and pop right back up and the announcers never touched on. It was watching this whole thing now didn't say anything and I remember the moments were going on right after that two and three seconds after nothing was said, remember thinking. Chill maybe you saw that wrong Show Malley. Doing some kind of a setup that we've never seen before he drops to a knee and comes back up and hope that the right remember when Tony reached down against. Any he threw mythical sanding cheese faces away to set up and do whatever behind sometimes there's some maybe that's what Sean was doing. I talked myself into this because nobody said anything about. That have a better view than I do. So it happens again. Something happens they're not engaged. They're completely disengaged. Sean goes down again and has to pop back up well, that one they did pick up. US. Okay. My eyes are playing tricks on me. I am this is happening, and then Sean begins to keep a little bit more space. He begins getting a little closer to the fence and he starts doing some lateral motion. Lateral motion is very tough to do. On a bad ankle exemplified on a bad ankle. And he was having a hard time and it wasn't effective him and these is never changed. I'm watching the is I'M GONNA. Again, maybe something's happening I'm seeing this wrong because his early engaged he's not Winston. He's not wilting. He's not flinching. He's washing his target and he's deal with whatever has to do it. then. All of a sudden he goes down. And Chitose Sprung Ryan four elbows, and you could hear Crack Crack Crack crack. Bad elbows good stoppage. But you are left with how bad is his ankle and what we need to do I mean I can tell you this just from being in Vegas Fr, from seeing the way in from seeing the walkout from the energy in the something special that Sean o'malley and only Sean o'malley brings right now. The. Sugar Show is not over latest gentlemen. All right. Now, the tour bus might have a flat tire. The sugar show is not over. And in so many ways a loss to a seemingly invincible guy is very helpful down the road. I understand what you're thinking and no. I am not maintaining that being completely undefeated is better than having lost but being completely undefeated in this sports a rare thing. That can only go to could be. Really rare thing. Not only only right now can it go to be over the history of technical? Beep. One guy just to prove rarest. So when you have a guy that is very invincible and he shows any level of of instability, any including an injury to his ankle that makes them fall out in a contest where he preferred to be standing up very meaningful but anti kind of invincibility can be very helpful down the road. I mean he can add some parents can add some matchmaker I didn't hear a lot of guys call. Sean. Out. Before this find Hershon, call a Lotta guys out. They weren't speaking up go win somewhere. They were trying to dismiss him while looking macho all go go with a couple more. EARN. Your way. Well, he'd want he want every fight they put in front of him what more do you want from the guy but now all of a sudden guys are a little bit more chirpy. Not Quite as an insulting to them as perhaps it sounded to me by right now I'm more attempting to prove the point that doors do actually open and while shots probably not feeling that with a bag of ice on his ankle right now, it is a reality. And there is a time and it's going to be a short period of time. He will look back here here. This go. ooh. Jail was right show. You've been all right through this this whole bill of you got everyone right right now. I'm right. There's no shortage of action going on with our exclusive partners. Bet Online sports are slowly making their way back and they'll be and now NBA join. UFC BOXING NASCAR and soccer bet online has all the best odds lines for the upcoming. 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What at least if you look at their resumes, both of their stoppages, you look at their styles, you're gonNA come to that conclusion. As we don't get double cross somebody lays an egg. Now, I will tell you right now that fight. That fight did. Not only would have we all look like the smartest guy in the room giving that prediction we would have looked at even sooner, but there was one thing that was interesting. This was not a matter of two guys having respect for one another and therefore they did not engage these guys engaged. And, there was a feeling out process. These guys were throwing night ending shots. The duration of the contest what we underestimated. Was the defensible athletes. Like junior to Santus was doing that one where he dips down and throws that overhand right but it comes like a wind meal. I mean it break right through a concrete, but roses truck was slipping. Junior through it a few times junior hit that spinning back kick that he knocked Marcotte with he through that early. Then the first minute of the fight boom perfect form. Perfect. Ever roses got out of the way. That with the other way to rose's shirk was thrown some heat and junior was dealing with this. I feel that we underestimated the defensive abilities of both men that's the only part that we might have missed. It was very interesting fight and it played out exactly as you would have predicted ahead of time which there was no groundwork. Junior Dough Santos who is more likely to win a grappling match between the two has to get you to the ground. He's great on the feet is good on the ground. He's never been a guy to favor the inbetween. He's never been a guy that okay. I don't want to be on my feet with you. I want you on the ground that's what I meant identifying as the in between us. So therefore I'm going to take you to this new rallies. He's never really been that Guy Rosen stroke has certainly never been that guy. So you got to stand up for exactly what we thought it was going to be. I had an interesting moment after the fight, which is I got to visit with roses shook for a moment but I also got a visit with roses strikes coach. And these guys fought and there's a little downtime and the o'malley by the time dealing with Rosen strike. This happens to be at the same time that steep a is walking to the cage and he's at the check in point where they're putting a little vast lean. You got your mouthpiece you got your cup good luck champ. He's dealing with that and that's on a monitor. So I turned arrose rice coach. I said by the way coach. What do you make a steep as very skinny? He's not just lighter. He's not just leaner. He's flat skinny in comparison how it used to be what do you think he's a man I don't know what to make of that. He said, it strikes me as the wrong approach to any points to rose's strike. He goes I'm trying to put weight on him. We still got five pounds before we reached the limit I wanNA use all five of those I'm trying to put weight on him. Semi Athletes, roses strike. He said he's ways works out so much. He can't eat enough to gain the weight on him I surprised by steep. But that was an interesting perspective. I, tend to lean towards coach. Steve sees another way he's getting some interesting results. This is still an experiments really never been done before. Where a current champion changes his body But we're seeing some very good results. Hold that thought do what you'd like with that. But there is something happening in front of our eyes here that we're going to need a little bit of time to deduce. Before, we go learn and steel take from what steep as doing right now by giving a little bit smaller. Going to be a little bit more time. It's never been done one off, but it's a one off by the champion of the world. Okay. So after the fight. And Rosenstiel fight for the championship. Roses wants the title fight but he also wants Gano he doesn't like how that fight went and got Oh, has his eyes on the prize and Dana White State yeah man you got it. And God has done everything you need to do. We know what? That's a really hard one to argue there is kind of a rule in the sport very unwritten one. But if you beat a former world champion, you will be fighting for the world championship. And Gano Stop Jd yes and stop Cain Velasquez and that's off the top of my head. Where do you WANNA. Fit Ovary man he's one enough championships in enough places does he to qualify that? I. Mean this is just off the top of my head stopping these guys first round touching them one time and grabbed his grabbed his talent headed for the shower. Very hard. To not go along with Dana. White is saying, which is just this guy. Deserves he's absolutely getting it. But at the same time as Dana Sane this John Jones is on Social Media John Jones heavyweight is interesting period hard stop. Not just against Ebay for a heavyweight championship John Jones at heavyweight is interesting. And there's a lot of parody and a lot of different places you could put him well, at least spark my interest whole new matchups. How's HE GONNA deal with? What's he goes deals with whatever the question is it's probably going to be less. Is, GonNa do great up there. But prior to the fight, it is very interesting and I don't know that that's something you can save for him right now at two hundred, five pounds right now he has one interesting finest. Dominic Reyes. When that's done, it appears that he's going to have another fight. That's very interesting. That's what the Polish Hammer. But not yet and heavyweight I think I could play that game off the top of my head and spend the next ten to fifteen minutes telling you matches that you would all agree with. I don't know that John Jones is interested and I say I don't know because I don't know he hasn't made it clear. I don't know the John Jones would be interested in ever leaving two hundred five pounds for anything less than a world title fight at heavyweight I don't know that. But John Jones did come out and he was talking about and Gado at one point who was not the champion. So he has shown some signs. that. He's just looking for an interesting most people. Call it big big interesting. In the same thing, you want to be a big fight. You got to be an interesting. If you're an interesting fight, you're going to be a big fight. I'm using the word interesting right now. That he would be. Open to the idea of going up for an interesting fight heavyweight. I don't really that's going to go anywhere. But I do think we have a talking point I think that it helps to prove the fact that we are in contender season in the heavyweight division. That's fun. Who's now is important. 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People have said this people that I trust media outlets that I read. I don't know what it is that did that made him the most decorated I believe that ties back into the fact that he had more heavyweight successful heavyweight title defences than anybody. I don't know that that equals most decorated. But whatever. was still the narrative of the dialogue out there. He goes out and defeats Daniel Cormet. The story line of the evening complete with the fact that it was on sportscenter is that steep is the greatest heavyweight time. Everybody was drinking too that. Everybody was saying everybody was reporting that everybody was right To have that opinion, but Sunday, goes by. Lines come out on Monday morning for two mythical fights of which are not signed. Pending or upcoming Stephen Versus and Gano and St Papers John Jones. Stevie was a two and a half to one underdog in one of those fights and a three to one hundred dollars in the other. The same guy. Who We just declared an anointed and rightfully recognized. As the greatest of all time, how do we come to that conclusion while conclusively believe simultaneously? Be, leaving. Two other guys could beat at one to two, one, one, three, two, one. What do you have to do? If you're poor steep a were you just did everything right? You trained right? You slept regular eight right you lived right here in the middle of a pandemic when you're a first responder but you have another obligation which is defin- heavyweight championship of the world you all. You check every box your great guy. You don't do anything in Your Life that is tabloid worthy if you will you do everything right You got to have a little time to rest. He's gotta be sore entire. It's got to be a little banged up. I. Saw him get poked in his I. I know that going into this fight, one of the delays of the fight was an only the pandemic. It was the fact that he was deal with an eye injury nine speculating for you. He hasn't said anything about the eye, but I'm trying to prove the point that he has a right to who exhale. You go home you celebrate a little bit with your inner circle maybe a click on a couple of the links out there. You read a few nights, things about you before the new cycles pass. It's too late and IT'S A. Yesterday. Thought he didn't get one day. that. One day we go from. He's the greatest ever went into this acknowledging he was the most decorated ever whatever that may but we acknowledged it. He closes the book on the argument who the best ever is. Two. Guys can apparently beat them one guy who's never even done it. One Guy who is checking out of the only time that he's ever been offered to do it as apparently GonNa move up and beat them up and another guy by the way who already had twenty five minutes to do it at lost all twenty, five of those minutes. I think that that's an interesting conclusion to come to. I have partnered with one of my hard earned dollars to make believe that those odds are wrong. Maybe the right. I suppose we would need a minute as a matter of fact, why don't we take one now steep versus and Gano? How's that fight going to go? Well Already seen, it don't really have to guess. saw the two doing the same exact thing under the same rules the same weight class for the same championships seen at all. And it wasn't the Daniel steep a moment where steep as and look at the first vice CPA's out there controlling the fight. Daniel catches him. Okay. Great. Let's run this one back. But who knows what's going to happen based on what we've seen who knows what's going to happen? Steep, a versus Ghana was extremely uncompetitive. Extremely one sided all three judges had the same way which was every round steep and not a maybe about it. So you are left with the question of what what's going to be different is engano changed. We know for sure steeper hasn't. Steep, a has not slowed one single bit. There is a reasonable conclusion that you could come to that. He's actually gotten better. There's no metric you can look at to believe that he has digressed which means okay. Hasn't gone gotten better and not just as fighters an athlete has he gotten specifically better At having a smaller faster man closed the distance, get to his hips and drag him down to the Mat that's the question you have to ask has it gotten better at that? If, you conclude no, but you still want to bet on and go. Okay. Great. Then that only leaves you with one. Another option which is, has he gotten better at getting up off the bottom you're gonNa have a hard time saying yes to either one of those doesn't mean that you're wrong if you do say yes but you would have a hard time saying, yes based on the evidence by example. Steep is the last guy to shoot on Engano steep took him down five times with five shots. Nobody else is ever fired one. Came Velazquez Great. Wrestler never fired one shot. Just. By example, roses trick doesn't have that tool did not have that tool to not even use never fired a shot just by example. So, we don't have anything to actually turn to conclude that. Yes and gunwales better at stopping. Take us. We have not seen anybody try we haven't seen him in a scramble. Our trusted happened to the practice room. Same. Would go with his ability to get off the bottom or his inability. We haven't seen it because we haven't seen him on bottom. So if you come to the conclusion that, yes, things are going to be different because Francis has made the appropriate adjustments. I would only be curious to ask you before you do go to the window and put some money down with what evidence. Are you basing that opinion? This isn't a court of law and you don't have to supply me with that evidence. I would only offer to you that you may want to consider it. What does an absolutely shredded George saint-pierre mean. Okay. I've trusting you've seen this but if you haven't Saint-pierre put something out on social media, he was doing a workout. and. It was the workout where you're like outside getting some fresh air shirt off getting a little bit of sunlight and got that medicine ball and you squat down, you come up as fast and hard as you can, and you throw that ball over your head. Then it's part of the work you got to run to wherever that ball goes and get down and do it again. So. Relevance. Being to George, outside on a summer day is he had his shirt off sudden. You're taking a lookout guys more than he's ever been. And in addition to being in fantastic shape or what would seem to be fantastic shape he was clearly smaller. Clearly. Now. If you were back the tape up. Whenever I was in Melbourne Australia for Oughta Sonya versus whitaker for a timeframe. That was some point last year when what was that February last year? But that was kind of when these talks started going whenever that fight that's where I was when the talks of Saint Pierre. Going down to fifty five were really starting to ramp up and even though everybody was given stiff at the time George was doing what was called a test cut. At that time frame. We never got an update or a result on how that test cut when it wasn't for example, when Tony, Ferguson decided to weigh in on time for the fighting made wait knee like video and put it out to the world. Was it like that we're told he was going to test got. I don't know if that meant he was doing a test cut for championship. Wait for scratch. Wait to get within striking range of making said, wait I don't know he did elaborate on the fact that we do know for a period of time George saint-pierre has been looking at one fifty five. These talks are now wrapping up because for the first time ever. The only thing that's different is that stiff on George was getting has been taken down. It appears the ball is going to be put Georgia's Court. It was George's idea. So it's very hard to imagine that George isn't going to accept his own idea when it's offered back to, but it is still possible. Either way. The one thing that has changed is there is now roadblocks Hey George do you? WanNa do. Broad stroke some things have to happen to get the gate she in the could be fight. But in a broad stroke, it looks like that opportunity would be open and as much as Georgia's Santa. Only come to fifty five Khabib. I would be very curious if that's true. If. It was gates. You was still fifty five Oh still for the title is still make you champ champ champ something that has never been touched and won't be touched. People have the discipline. George has to take weight off and go down to the it's not gonNA happen. If it was a different opponent, I don't know the answer to that. He seemed very lock on the idea that it had to be could be he wants to be the first to take out. To take out, could be go to different weight and win the stray seem very disciplined in this. Backup to the photo. He. Looked good. No Way to say he did not look in shape and you just you can't look that way while taking weight off and advancing in age which all of us do each second. Every breath that we take. Without an extreme level of hard work and discipline. The mere fact that he's outside in summer. Day. In the sun on a weekend giving workout in, it does come back to why. We. Know George can fight. We know be confined. Only question we have is our them boys going to fight each other. That's the only question we have. We have a piece of evidence which is George saint-pierre training wile. Looking as though he is in striking weight right now a one fifty five. You've never seen a workout video picture of George, Saint Pierre, and his whole career he looked like this. He was at one seventy most of us at one, eighty, five for some of them. He at least within his I, don't know what his answer is I. Don't know that he has an answer if we were to ask him right now. But to make believe anything other than he is considering an idea. Whose Genesis is with him. And now we have a photo proof. Looks, good. Looks like he can make the way. My prediction. Yeah George's idea very hard for me. Believe he's not GonNa like his own idea packaged up and presented back to we still got to fight to do. October. Still gotta come and go and just engaged. She's no easy task. I'm just speculating for you what would george say if George was asked I think he's already said it. I was sitting back enjoying the show Saturday. Same as you guys. And the trailer POPs up for Artists Sonya. Paula Kosta. Best trailer. I've ever seen the probably. There was one that was very special that was Josie versus conor McGregor where they like shut down the. Vegas. Strip. And this thing that thing has always said it number one but this, this was a hot promo right here. And if I look at that fight. It's also come out that Paulo. Kosta. Six weeks out from fight guys keep that in mind. Two hundred twenty pounds. So you talking about. Three five pounds of steel. Okay. This isn't just a guy. This. A guy with avs who's got five thirty, five pounds somewhere. Who by the way we'll fight them who by the way has never missed weight before who by the way has never had a fight this big. He's going to make the Wade. Would it be fair for you to talk about how depleted will he be? It's a conversation. I find it a born when myself I find it one that seems to never go away. The WAYANS, are the day before? In the world of rehydration that's an eternity that's more than enough time. Put it in wrestling perspective or even amateur boxing perspective. Two of the sports out there we have to make way to compete they do it the same day. NCWA wrestling will do it one hour before now that is designed to. Prevent. Weight cutting it is. Designed for that but my point still being the fact that they weigh in the day before as far as the rehydration or a malnutrition or a lack of energy standpoint. Extremely. Distant memory. When you do look at that fight though it does appear someone's getting their ass kicked. But you're GONNA have a real big debate on which one it is. I mean, I've heard people in the know people who have earned a right to an opinion Dan Hardy Dan Hardy comes to mind who say I can't really see Pala going with them. Positive stand up fighter and yeah, he sure is strong and powerful but. Championships are one off of knowledge and expertise and Q. and technique that all goes to odd ASSAN JATTA SON is GonNa pick them apart that was one guy's opinion. There was another fighter in the division I'm trying to think of who it was. It might have been wiedeman. But there was another guy within the deficiency man. I could see Paulo going right through him. Just too strong and too powerful, and it does seem as though. One of those two opinions is going to be true I don't know that we have this long back and forth trading rounds war. It is going to be a battle with two guys who are not going to quit, but that answer that question is going to be answered. Is The power and the forward motion in the cutting off of the ring, of Paulo, going to simply overwhelm Oughta sign or you're going to move around and touch up all night long. It seems as though one of these going to be obvious we won't know till this is done but the fight is very special I can't think of a rivalry within the middleweight division that I've seen quite like this one. This is extremely personal. And this is not to guys who happened to be great who happened to have scary unique skill sets that are intimidating. And impressive. And undefeated. Willing to fight each other. That's what you'll see a lot and should the recipe and the concoction that I just laid out be what's going to take place you got something very special to watch. This one just has one different ingredient, which is they are just willing they want. To fight each other. They want to fight each other to the point that went off sign beat whitaker and couldn't have gone in five different directions and Paulo wasn't the huge star that moment that he is now he was rising star. Was it the Big Star that he is right this second? OUGHTA sign it could have gone in five different directions in front of the world record setting crowd in his moment in his own ship. He did just that and he started writing Apollo Lap. Paulo. forged. Lied I don't know what happened but you guys remember the store where he had a doctor. And whatever level of doctor it was it was enough that Dana white laughed at him and say get a real doctor. He had a doctor, send a note clearing him. Two. Months before he should have been cleared just because he wanted to fight off Sonya that bat so I don't give a damn about healing my arm. I'm fine. Doctor says he's fine rule says, I, need a note from a doctor. I got one sign me up. Danny goes not so fast but the you see where this is evidence of. My premise which is you want fight. You guys at what to do this batch. I haven't heard title said by either I haven't heard Paulo costs the hell do anything I want to win the title I have no problem. If he did, I'd get that narrative I have not heard OUGHTA scientist say one time I will do anything to protect and hold onto my. I have not heard either one of those guys say that either time I've heard Paulo CEO. WanNa beat out assigning I've had auto tiny salmon of beat Paulo. Rest of you were saying main event rusty. You think this is fun and interesting. There's some money gonNA come on and I haven't heard any of them give a damn either way. The only thing they want is one another we are now six weeks out. OUGHTA Sonya sporadic probably had a big breakfast and lunch already before this video is going to hit his desk. And is probably within one workout of making wait. Paulo Costa's has to take off thirty five pounds of steel. Only thing between them. It's time and space. The six weeks the space is getting limited. I gotTa tell you as a fan. I'm looking forward to this one. All right guys looks like a good place to call it but we'll be back on Friday until then jail son and and you. Are. Welcome. Thanks for listening to your welcome with jail son it download new episodes every week at podcast one dot com. That's podcast. O.. N. E. DOT COM.

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Ep. 2,865: Freddie Roach and Jessica Andrade

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Ep. 2,865: Freddie Roach and Jessica Andrade

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The only show broadcasting live from the Mandalay bay resort and casino in the fight capital of the world loss famous Nevada. The lights are on and the mic, sir hot. It's time to get your MMA fix junkies. Take it away. Big John, gorgeous, George goes. Are you ready junkie? Get it. All. From the bike capital of the world inside the beautiful Mandalay bay racing sports book, you are listening to the enemy junkie radio show. The only show that matters. I'm your host gorgeous, George as always is the devious and DASS for the goes r as co host. He's back the fight analysts, Dan, Tom and back east producing jolting. Josh. All right, guys. We're on the weekend year. So and we're going to get started with them may junkie radio. But what did I stumble on towards the end with at the fights? What was going on there with diapers and Betson? Dares. Yeah. I'm the mayor of shenanigans USA. I love it when their shenanigans that involve me, but I love it even more when they don't involve me in the involve other people. So you instigate it and got a few people to to bite on your antics. Well, I don't know about the bite because there was there was mutual hatred. But they just were on two different sides and something needed to be done. And Josh you want you want to kind of explain a little bit. How this all began. So this began there was it was quite a controversial day on the fence. I think I'm going to bring Jerry back in here. So rainy, Gordon Gerry Cooney caused at the fights. And Giral Miller was a guest today, of course, fighting Anthony Joshua for the heavyweight gold June first of the garden, and you know, Randy Jerry, one of their jobs is to pick who they think is going to win these fights. Ramsey's a kiss ass. And as you hear Jerry Randy Randy went with the severe underdog in Giral Miller. I loved your l Miller. They are not on not on the radio. You know? No one wants to hear from me put Jerry, Jerry, come into my view. Explain the show. Listen, I gotta tell it like it is right guys. I mean, that's what I do. He I can't be slipping and sliding so I don't think that big baby Giral Mila big guy. Three hundred pound. He doesn't have the skills pedigree to beat a guy like Anthony, Joshua. He just doesn't, you know, Joshua has you know, gold medal winner. He's got deep amateur, you know, career great professional fights. He he knocked out clips go after being dropped, you know, got up and get off the mat? And and one of stop and Klitschko when Klitschko was really a great fight. He brought up a great fight that night to the ring. And you know, obviously Randy. He was in the studio with us today. So Randy was kissing his ass a little bit. And I had to tell the truth is his agent was there, and she heard me pick Joshua twin and choose give me a hard time about I feel kind of lousy picking a certain guys personally when he was in the studio with us. But sometimes that's what you gotta do. I mean, that's that's the game. Yeah. That's that's exac. What you gotta do. So I felt no respect him more for being honest. And I don't think he can win. I really don't think he can win. And and but this is this what we play we play this game. We have tell the truth and he's in studio and that happening listen to them. I believe it. I'm I'll pick Randy. I gotta taste them. We must have picked about three hundred fifty fights. He's lost one. I mean, I've I've lost one. I won every match with him. So anyway, I it is what it is. And it was a little bit awkward for me today, and it kind of a little bit out of place. But listen, you know, this is what happens, you know, Jerry. If he were to beat Anthony Joshua. You'll be the first guy to congratulate him shake his hand. And that's just you're just doing your job. And that's for sure that and that's right. And I and I listen, I hope it's a great great fight. I really do. And he throws eight hundred punches around. I mean, the in the twelve round fight. So may we'll see great fight. But when you fight a guy that's at the top of the level. It's harder to throw those punches against the guy was thrown back at you, which he will be doing and we're gonna. See different side of big baby drill mill than we've seen in the past. So unfortunately, that's boxing in. I'm glad to be on. How does the diaper titan? But that's the thing is I love boxing, but I also love shenanigans. And this is how we're going to tie some shenanigans in here, Jerry, you have the favourite, which means you have to give up a little bit more. That's why. All right if Joshua gets knocked out or loses the fight going to wear a diaper during one of their episodes. I love it you come back. The other way if Randy loses here's what I think, you should do, Jerry. You're going to have five times throughout the year that you can just call out halo, baby. Suck your thumb. Thumb like a little baby for twenty seconds twin ever you call it. Eliza matter where you're at you're in a meeting, whatever you call it out. He's got to do it. You got that job? You could get them man at the so. This the I don't I I'm very good picker of fights. And obviously the chance that big baby can win in a proud of him for his taking himself. But he's in he's dug himself into a deep hole with this guy. Joshua because he's a he's a beast. All right. So anyway, let's enjoy your show. Thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to seeing you guys against soon. Great show. You guys have. Okay. All right. Thank you, sir. Thank you. All right. Right. At the fights. Catch the Monday through Friday, HS, three Pacific six eastern. They cover the sport of boxing like no one else. All right today. We're going to have Freddie Roach. Speaking of boxing, how about that? We're gonna have free Roach on our show legendary boxer now, boxing coach and Emma may coach, and we're also going to speak to Jessica and draw. She's actually going to visit the studio she's going to be facing rose number unison. You've to thirty-seven on may eleventh, which is now taking place in Rio de Janeiro it had been rumored to go to Cudi Tiba Brazil, and it's been moved to Rio de Janeiro still on the same date. Still the same event is just moving from one city to the next actually the same as to thirty two except France fans haven't gotten screwed because I don't think fans had gone through the process of buying tickets or anything like that. But that's cool. I mean, I don't really have a problem with that. I didn't impact me in any way. And. Hopefully, they'll go back to people because the first time they went they sold forty five thousand seats. So I know they're anxious for some more mixed martial arts. So hopefully, they go back there. Now one thing that had been saying myself, I'm plenty guilty of is that Amanda Nunez might be on that card. And now she's been pretty clear it's been pretty clear that she's not going to be on that card. So there you have it. I just wanted to finish that part right there. But those are two guests and in between then we'll have some pockets in which you can call eight seven seven fight ninety three eight seven seven three four four four eight nine three. We can discuss anything you want including the for the fight card ticket place tomorrow night. You have see prog headline by the AGA Santos and YoM Laka wits. Of course, the retirement of George saint-pierre that's still maybe the biggest news of the week. And there's been fight announcements such as Anderson so versus Jared cannon near Kennedy was against the largest, and again that fight taking place in Rio de Janeiro now, not included people, Brazil, so. So like in please participate in the show. We'd love to hear from you. And I'm also going to scan social media to see some of you. Sometimes just limited and you can't get to the phone, and that's fine. So if you have a question or comment, go ahead and leave it we can be pretty found pretty much anywhere on Instagram Twitter, Twitter, preferably or Facebook, Las Vegas buffets. Once I send you a buffet. Here at Mandalay bay with my friend Kristy, and I figured out I went for dinner and hadn't gone for dinner. And while I was they actually upped their game. A lot. It's pretty good. How about you, Dan? I can't remember. That's a really good question. It's been it's been years. It's been a minute and nothing against both. Yeah. No, no joke. Yeah. I spend a minute. It's weird. Because like when you live in Vegas. Did you would think you do a lot of the Vegas stuff? But you don't really I mean, you live here like back home. We lived fifteen minutes from the beach. I rarely went to the beach. I've probably gone more to the beach since I've lived here in Vegas going back home and going to the beach than I did when I lived there that works. Definitely the case for me too. Yeah. Strange. Right. But when people come here, that's one of the first questions is where's that buffet? Who's got a good buffet? And you know, what buffets are great people. I'll tell you that. But there are such good restaurants. Now the restaurant game over the last couple of years picked up. So so with ferocity I mean every week somebody's freeing-up on new place, a new big chef that you're Gordon Ramsay your Bobby flays like day all been up these restaurants in they're they're monsters. What's her name giada Dila Renta? She's got one. They're good, man. Where's that? At is at the Cromwell. I believe Crumlin. Better planning. So Dan was off for a couple of days, and Dan, we didn't get your reaction to GSP leaving the game. Because what on one day? On one day GOP said I'm gonna announce retirement on the next day that you weren't here. You know, 'cause we time with, sir. So what are your thoughts? Do you have any GOP memories man, tonnage ESPN memories? But I'll I'll keep everybody. You know? I I always co-signed on a lot of a lot of the big memories. And let me just say, you know, obviously. I take it as serious as one can when a fighter announced his retirement, but even me, Mr. rain on parade, and Mr. contrarian ah, I'm not really looking for the tin foil. Hats as a as a you apple put it on on on the show the other day, you know, and and I get that. It's not that. There's no valid in chasing those trails in returning. Yeah. Yeah. And we we could talk about that. And and, but you know, to be honest, I I wouldn't mind I would be happy. I would be happy as a G P fan. I would be happy as a fan of the sport seeing a guy go out on top. And as a person who is always trumping the titles and for these things to get back into play. I'd be happy on that front. But that being said GSP memory posted it the of the day. It was an odd one. It was it was an outside of the cage one and it was during their tour for the leader of the rematch for J pen. And you know, they did the visiting cities and stuff you won't forget about this. You know, they think that that Connor going? If you ask Connor it's Connor going up to edit tool. Five was the first time it happened and whatnot and those big tours were happening. But no the UC did it did it way back when a ten years now guys which. Is which is which is insane. And. I think right excuse me. The switch is read for. Oh, it's good. We're good wasn't sure. Because I it looked like just you, and I and just a voice speaking. All right. So Dan, Dan can. And anyways. So that you know, they went to a kind of a radio show like ours was Hawaiian a George saint-pierre wasn't enemy territory, and I just like the because essentially I won't get into it. But like they're having t- tastes bunch of them something like Chinese local like wine food, and I like we love it. We we love you to like the food. We also like it when you don't like it. It's like we get joy either way, and George it was great. 'cause you see Georgia's being a sport he's in enemy territory. You see him being an absolute sport about it. And and and even BJ as aggressive as he was toward George back. Then he was like, you know, cheer georgiana, and, you know, the little moments, especially when you know, what was going to happen to the drubbing ride and the rivalry. And I I just bring that the la- because George was such a nice guy, which I think is right for that. We highlight it, but he really didn't have the you know, that that Rabat blood rivalry even one guy is trying to bring it out of him. Right. Except for for BJ BJ brought it out of them and say what you will holds up and Nick creamy Nick a little bit here and there, right? He fought he fought you're scared and then. A bit. But he fought so measured. He actually showed up to the press conference in the fut-. Yeah. Whereas like, Joe, George even after like, you know, beaten BJ's beat his ass. You know, all the respect. I was a big BJP Benfield being asked for three rounds at the at the end of the fourth round. Like, it wasn't enough where he got up, and you see these little pads behind us with a cage that we replicate beautifully punches it. But you never see George beer when do you see any fighter do that? Like, I didn't punch this. It's not like I didn't just what you did set a significant strike record on BJ pens had. He's like, you know, what not enough? I'm gonna punch the gauge like he really brought it out of them. But I appreciate that. I don't look at that. As a negative to George like, I these are things that like were were great little little details. If you will if there's a big painting of his career, so I pick a random one. But I always loved that rivalry. Yeah. For sure man that was too great fights that they had where at least one great fight and the other one was pretty one sided. But I I the way it was a great rivalry. Well, yeah. And they were classic matchups. Pointed out of the first one is a classic example. We talk about. Judges wrestling versus striking right? That was a classic three round decision. Where we always we've had that argument. How many times that fight at UFC fifty eight or whatever it was used savers Canada? The second matchup is a classic for, you know, tactics in a fight, you know, before clinch fighting was just stalling it was ugly. But George saint-pierre says, no, no, no there's tactics. Here. I'm going to slow him down. If a guy's got a speed advantage in a striking vantage. How about we slow them up? I then I can do what I want to him. Like, it's such great examples in those fights. I still remember GSP throwing if I hope I got the right fight. He threw a leg kick and BJ jumped in with both. Oh, great. Great. Great memory, George that was that was good. That was a fun. Now that said and thanks for the compliment. You know, I have actually a terrible memory do. That's great. Great punch a month ago back and see that. Selective memory. Don't have bad memory. He'll remember. Because it meant something to you. I guess yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe. Crap that's different from a fight you watch sports center. And you see a guy jumping over the fence to catch a ball. It's amazing. But it happens every night. You don't see a guy jump a kick. Like that. Even now even still today. I mean, how many guys first of all credits George saint-pierre because not many guys when they missed the lake kick. They follow through the back leg unless you're like, Donald Donald Surani. We'll do that. But he's also by statistics the best laid kicker in the UFC. So not many guys do that in the first place. So the fact that George did it, but BJ had the counter to the counter was oh my God, Donald Sony leg kick. But he was on the ground. He was pissed off jury. Okay. He's just on a man. I remember the crowd going nuts on that. Do you? Remember when George Saint Pierre was here for about an hour and a half on our show in studio. Marie took off his shoes. Put us on the table was just chilling just kind of laughing at it. But he was very relaxed, and yeah, he took he took up shoes. And then he just put his feet up on the table. And he was kind of like sitting back like this of me. And you're looking at you to just make yourself at home. But it was cool because he was not uptight. But I think he he was afraid to let his guard down a lot and his career was just having so much fun that you just let his guard down to go back in here that, but there was one thing that he told us at the end when the show is over remember. And I think you know, what it is. But I think we can share that now because the careers over and you want to do. Do you want me to well? Hopefully, I got this. Right. So we asked them because this is about the time where him and Anderson were rumored for like a cowboy stadium show. Yeah. You said, right. The show had ended yet. So we said I write enough bullshit. Like, we always get a little too afterwards. Right. And he goes, listen, listen, you know, we'd fight him. Anyway, he said, I will fight them. But to fight him. I would have to add to my frame to compete at one eighty five. And if I go up never coming back. And so I remember goes on I looked at each other quickly. The think is out worth it because seven yes, seventy was still quite the division. He said his body would go through too much hell trying to get back down right at his age that he would never attempt it. Yeah. So we had that nugget for all we know conduct fi no DS if he's a man of his word there. There would be none of those other fights that he wound up having you know, later in his career. I guess hardy would apply consistent Hendrix, whoever. And maybe you got to maybe when it got to this being center. Who knows he said that? But then again, I remember a few years ago. He started teasing fifty five. And I think I I think I even told you go look at so. And so, you know, but at the time doesn't want that was getting thrown out. So I'm not saying George was a liar because he looked like he came very clean, and we was very forthcoming. I just think that as you get older, you change your mind about a lot. You have really strict with some things, you're not as receptive. You know with other ideas or thoughts or whatever. And you just you just change. You know what I mean? But. If I ever saw him. I'd say what what changed because you were so firm in your stance here. And yet, you know, you were able to move around and in a leave four years and contemplate fifty five what changed for you? Didn't it? Check, you probably just learn more about his money or didn't a person come up to the window and like flash. No, somebody all knows Dana white. It was somebody with a Canadian let her boobs weren't exposed. I know but still. Yeah. But that wasn't DSP riots. It was it was it was that. She wanted to gets it was during a card though that future DSP, right? One hundred. No because she had a big Canadian flag. I remember that. Right. But it wasn't. Are you sure thinking I'll look it up. But I think it was forced Griffin and enrich Franklin jump. Are jumping Justice. I was volunteering for those two giveaways for reason. Right. That's why damned rich. Versus four. It was. I think it was you'll see one nine okay? Well, we've had those shogun Jones see here have no which which card. One nine one nine. But that was that was good Turin. Yeah. Qatar Coleman, right? Don't find it right here. Wasn't that a joke went on nine the combined combine hundred mine age of fighters in the main? Caesar's? All the respect to those guys by God. Okay. It was twenty six and featured Anderson Silva against E tour Belfort ago. No that wasn't it. Now. I know it wasn't it in a hole on one. It was the following. It was this one. I hear. Do wanna six Tito face forests for the second time. That was the main event concert versus AJ the versus Volkmann. I don't know why that me I mean Canadians can lie to Canadians work coming to Las Vegas. They just travel with Canadian flags. Sure. Sure. All right. Well, I'll believe you. I mean, I I don't know. I I don't doesn't look to me like he was at any point on the card and they removed them because it like four Tito doesn't strike me as a main event and strikes me as a co mean event. Tito, did have a big name Anthony Johnson fought Josh Cossack number that one guys. Yeah. Yeah. Even flashback actually been been rhyming back my old school fight party days where guys me but nice enough guys. He gets enough crap for probably political stuff here the whole card, but John Volkmann real quick. He was one of those guys where you'd pop up on the screen and like a couple of guys in the room, which laughing I don't know because his nickname was Christmas or because he had kind of a funny default Cairo. Yeah. Yeah. If you judged the guy by a picture, you don't be careful with that guy. But sorry, go ahead. George. George such up. Liz versus Jason dent g soft and dent versus for research. Komo news Brian foster versus Brock Larson, KENDALL grove versus Jake Rochefort. Remember that another Marcus Davis has been Saunders. Amir Sadullah versus Phil Baroni status. Pain versus Antonio note road hose area, Doug, era policy. Aga versus Jacob Volkmann. Anthony Johnson versus Josh concert, by the way, you are fans. Real new fans will be saying who's Anthony Johnson. So so new fans we on wait a minute. All I'd heavyweight was five fighting a while to wait. Yeah. That's right. At one point. Anthony Johnson was a welterweight. And that's why he fought Josh Cossack back on November twenty first two thousand nine. Car took place here at the Mandalay bay, though that was the one goes for the first time, I saw it. The new Johnson was UC fight night. Their teens Tommy spear into the cage who is this guy. You wanna know how crazy times were back? Then. Twitter was just blowing up and Dana stated he was coming to do the junkie radio show didn't give the links writer nothing. But he said it. So that's why we had a huge audience. But. He also used to tweet tickets. Yeah. Guys out of them. But your best weapon people were like not. Well, not a nice. But like, let's say you, and I had a system I'd go you stakeout Mandalay bay AllState got MGM, Dan, everybody started getting familiar with this systems. It couldn't be like in a location that, you know, had to be kind of like open like open corridors or whatever or whatever. 'cause it couldn't just you couldn't just say like. You know, meet me like in a small contained area, otherwise the place. Just get mobbed that happened at the blocking orange was there. We were there. That was crazy. I was in seeing running through stores. It was oh my God. He's gonna be their duties. He said that right? And he goes I'm going to trend. But why was everyone there then because member are? I'll tell you this story. I and then. Yeah. So that was the thing back then folks team would give away tickets via Twitter, and he'd give away sometimes two hundred three hundred tickets and get this. Usually he was giving you the ones that were like six or eight hundred dollars at the arena was those were the ones that weren't being sold all the ones around octagon site. Those get those get bought by big shots players in the casino celebrities, or they're just comped to you know, some of their fighters or whatever. And then there's like the next set of tickets that's a little further away. But you don't wanna be Robert neck. So what do you do you go? Fuck it. We couldn't get the good ones. Let's just sit up in the hunt one hundreds or two hundreds or maybe even the four hundred. So the six hundred eight hundred you notice it'd be big pockets, right? And so those were the ones. So when you got it, usually go, okay. I wonder where this is the next thing you need sit in and you go got downs. Pretty good. So he would do that. And that's why we had. I mean almost a stampede here inside of the sports book. But he said I'll be there to do the show. He didn't say I was giving he was giving away tickets. So after he did our show for what how long an hour and a half to about forty five minutes. Because he was in studio with us for a while. But from the moment, he left us and the other two hours when he was out here that wasn't two hours for sure, dude. Well, he was out there longtime hours. Okay. Well, we got here quite a long time. One of the longer interviews. You'll find Dana white. I'll tell you that once you can do whatever kind of history you want even if you did one hour Dan Patrick show. We still got them beat whatever it doesn't matter. He was here for a long time. Then when he left there he decided that's where he's going to do the Twitter thing any shook everyone's hand took pictures gave tickets to everyone. I mean, you add time think about it in two hours, you can go. Hey, guess what? Dana white just got me tickets and somebody that was an hour away could get in their car come down here. And also collect on it or whatever he had one of the more impressive, showings, I've ever seen in terms of just come into a radio show taking care of our fans fans and mentally base fans or whatever it was really really amazing. I remember co came in and. And he kind of turned a little red. He's like, yeah. I know he's here. You know? I'm gonna grab him for an interview. All right. Go ahead to do what you guys do you ever use hustle? And that's fine. I just say something else was both used to be by the shark reef because a little bit more open over there and the car people ran through the casino to get here. And that's where the trampoline can come into play at MGM was by the escalator by the GM grant arena. Well, you guys saw step on maybe even set up goes story. But at a point where he was doing the video blogs because this was kind of coming just after when we're talking about this at a ratio of Dana, white UFC. And remember where he tweeted out he wouldn't even show Bill just be security guards that as you'd catch like people running up, and he's going to say they see a big to suit and there's like start slowing dally person. And he's got gotta make like. Yup. It's me. I got the ticket. Don't worry. And that was funny. He would do it too. What's crazy, though is like you would think he'd say. Okay. Here are your two. They would say like, I mean, you need and. I shit. You not people could go. All right. It was crazy. But I thought you were going to say was you know, when he tweeted he was over here by where bourbon bar is. That's where he was when he sent that tweet. So all those people were either nearby or they ran that quick. We. We. Right. Yeah. He was like a day. They're already here. And there were they all started coming, and it was crazy for people who've never been poking bourbon bar is what maybe not even one hundred yards away fifty yards away. And maybe be sent that tweet. And then all of a sudden all these people just came into the studio he came in to the chauffeur what to an app security to come in. And and. Corridor police off but tell the story real quick about the block in orange. Okay. So the block what happened was they knew he was going to be at the black. But the block is where I'm Cal. It's an outdoor mall. Right. It's big. Okay. We knew where he was going to be exactly and we had a couple of friends Mark Cameron. Oh, I don't know if you want to expose that person. But I it's still in the game exposing actually not really still jump over there. What what we were doing was one one of our listeners had a believe his mother had passed away. And we wanted to do something nice for that person. So us and a couple friends. I think we broke up in teams of two and we were trying to figure out where it was going to be. And then somebody tipped us off to where it was going to be exactly. And we were able to get that day. He only gave out later maybe the block or to know to wear. It was AMC right right by MC. So we were there soon as the guy showed up came out. How many do you need and we got the tickets. So what am I thinking of zero false? Yeah. That's yes. There was just one time while we were standing there. And then all of a sudden you because everybody's walking around with another phone plan. And then all of a sudden like all it takes is for one person to react. Van which is probably the Verizon people than the ATM TV will then the sprint people in the t mobile, you know, because whatever speed those tweets are texting whatever coming in. That's what happened some Kobe will start at running and everyone started running, you know, and it looks like someone was spraying bullets apples races. People were running like some people would go he's advance. And then all of a sudden everybody would run that way. But see the thing is we were media back then so we weren't allowed to get these tickets. So we would have to do kind of like. Runs off. I go. You might wanna go over to blink. And then they would go. But so George I could just kind of stand back and just watch the madness. But it was just sin mar anti-people people were scared because they didn't know why all these people were running in one direction and then little by little they just kind of got away from it. Right. My favorite part would be the the set up you guys, especially George will saying we're like the aging time that will be the fun people watching time you see you do like a tap out shirt. A guy that affliction, sir. So how's the coffee here Gould, I frequently? So Cajun quite some time. Tweet goes out of just shoveled out of their way running. Like, you could have some fun with people. If you if you if it was still those days, you could actually just, you know, dress the part have a few people that run with you. And then boom, everyone will follow you like Lou Lou and back to school delivery Springsteen fund. Exactly. Yeah. All right. All right. Well, we got a little carried away there. We're talk a little bit of boxing. But there's still a little time. A lot of time on the show still ninety minutes to go and we're not going anywhere. It's the major radio show on fighting nation channel nine three. Stay close. We'll be right back. You lose to the fight then the ring announcer. Guess who this is your home for all things? Combat theory is exemplified nation channel ninety three and on your phone with the Sirius XM app. Tell your boss to rescheduled Ed meeting, pull your wife and teller lunches off. It's time for more intimate junkie radio with gorgeous, George and goes. Have you belated birthday to alpha Thousand Oaks one of our listeners for many years? Hopefully, still listen he came up because we're gonna. A nickname that Chuck Ladele used to be called on the underground website. They knew him as chocolate Al I guess some kids just hurt his dad say Chuck Ladele a and after that he ran with it except he thought it was chocolate out. And then finally the dad figured it out posted on the internet. I think that's how the story went. But those chocolate. No, it wasn't it. Somebody made a threat to tell me about chocolate. Al no, what happened was a kid. I think drew his favorite fighter and took it the school or whatever chocolate Al chocolate, Al, and nobody could figure out who the hell's this guy. Good guy figured it out. Oh, that's chocolate del. Remember when you burn me with that with we are the world. Oh, do we have time. Josh for dump story. It'll take like two minutes. Yeah. Go Wayne for Freddie Roach. Somehow. I'm all ears. I wanna hear this. All right for those of you who haven't figured it out by now, Georgia's my older brother, he's nine years older than I am one day. He comes home with a record. And it's the we are the world record on the record to this day. I still don't know who this was. But there's a guy on there that actually does really look like George, and so when you open up the record, it's got pictures of them recording it, and he came in. And he goes, hey, let became to modern day today. And they all these superstars Michael Jackson. They all did this thing they invited me to sing along the guy actually really does look like, George even as an adult. I can say that does look like. So he tells me that right? And I'm stoked them out there telling all my friends. Do my brothers saying we are the world with Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson Willie Nelson. I always people right Bano. Let me see if I can find him he's off to like somewhere around here. And so. I go to show and tell the next day at school with the record and people are up there with dumb shit body sparkles. Right. And I'm like I'm going to blow everybody out of the park. I show up. I have my record. This is my brother he saying we are the world with all these superstars remember and the teacher just starts laughing. She I think you need to talk to your mom and dad there, you might be wrong. And it's a student over here is the guy that you said. And yeah, it looked like a fucking Dorka got a year. But that's a bad picture. There's actually a better one where you really really do look like him. But even there you look like, how did she know right away that Cassini that was that's Kim. Kearns, right. Or what was her name? I don't know. Michael jackson. Yeah. So for about a year, I got teeth that I. He did that to me. Then one time he he at out doing homework for the dare program, the drugs thing, and I asked him first questions like what is dare Stanford. And he goes drugs are really expensive. Never never raised my hand. He wrote it down and the guy the police officer shows up the next day because what is the answer to number one. What is dare STAN for boom. I knew it. I raise up drugs are really expensive. Starts laughing. They sent me to the principal's office. I don't even know why do I got into the principal's office when I go, I don't know what's going on. The smart ass, I sympathize I sympathize with that because I dare story got in trouble with but I I did on my own accord. I would I said a bad habit where I would always like draw worth things people like eyepatches cigarettes. Oh. When I was younger, maybe. Yeah. Totally. Oh, I got when you were younger like Paul Simon Levy or ATM I- graffitied all over my dear book, you know. Like, I drew like needles. I like the lion. The dare lines like all strong because I'm strong without drugs. And you're like needles in his arms and stuff like us on steroids. And the dare offers are actually came in. And he looked like rob Riggle who would pipe plays a competent bunch of movies familiar with that guy. Joan and. Yeah, yeah. It was a big John. Right. Big big guy. He's like, oh, I'm going to here to talk to you. And you do too is so crazy like I was a couple rows back. And I'm going like, George like my buddy, Mike that kind of thing. And I go to the big guys on steroids, and he was mid sentence. And he is like and in the dare program. I am not on steroids and say, oh, my good just like darted like a movie where we just everything just focuses on you. You know? Oh, we here in ad looking like, you know, third or fourth grades. I had like an X men action figure or something on there. And he's kind of like picking on me. He's like oh. Who's this guy? This guy's owns. Let me see your book here and any opens my book, and then he season I like needles and cigarettes and eyepatches off and missing teeth and anybody who dare smile, and he's using this what? And yet Dan town would have many times I got in trouble from draws the school. But yeah, thanks reminded me that goes dare dare says it on I'm going to find a picture of George by the way going to see. You're going to see. Was a couple of days ago. He was on undeniable with Dan, Patrick on AT and T's audience net and on direct TV. No lot of you have direct TV, and he did an hour long interview there. So lots was covered there, including a great streetfight story in many stories from boxing MMA. Now, the live viewing the life tipping has passed. But I went on there today. Just check. I wanted goes to see it. And so it is available like we have direct TV in. If you go on one on one or two thirty nine for example. Or obviously, check your satellite and cable listings. There are replays. Seven ten pm eastern both eastern Pacific. I should say then again at one an then seventy AM then ten again on Saturday. So pretty much all day. It seemed like ten seven one ten seven one and cans, very easy just record it. And I think you really really like it. He is a former professional boxer and now you can see him in the corner of many great fighters, like many pack out, for example, I've seen him in Amir Khan's corner. And then in MMA, Aaron PICO George saint-pierre. So very very successful. And we're hoping to catch up with them here in a couple of minutes. All right here. It is. Okay. So Dan, look at the sky, that's George in high school. And then that's the guy that he said. Yeah. No. Yeah. He turned to see the. Strong facial jets the phone. Hey, you got guys. I do. So that was my job was to just got for a year bus, walls and instigate. You just Gerry Cooney men. Randy, Gordon, you're no saying, brother. All right. Speaking of boxing. I was looking to see I mean, you talk about ever may is busy. I'm not going to go through all the cards. But look this just if you like boxing, you don't feel like there's enough of it. Let me just tell you what's going on here on February twenty which is today in Kissimmee, Florida on Telemundo, they're six fights, Huntington, New York, star boxing Facebook. There's about seven or eight fights tonight in elk grove village, Illinois, there's about seven or eight fights, South Africa and Kempton Park. So that already happened Budapest Hungary that already happened in London Cynthia this just on the twenty second Melbourne. Australia ferry twenty-third tomorrow, Minneapolis, Fox, Sports one FOX deport is Anthony Durrell is fighting there for the vacant WBZ's middleweight title versus opne, you'll diem February twenty third Showtime James D gale versus Chris Eubanks were middleweights their undesired at a t. Wanna Mexico Brandon? Rios Versace Bertos Soto we've actually seen Brandon Rios fight in person goes. Yeah. Couple of times February twenty third and Maidstone England. Lenny fuller Orissa's Danny little Furby twenty-third Lincoln Rhode Island. Shelly Vincent versus Edina kiss. But all these are like seven eight deep as far as like boxing matches twenty-third Philadelphia twenty-third, Charlotte, North Carolina Managua, Nicaragua Scranton, Pennsylvania twenty six. They're back in toil. Tokyo, Japan, I mean, crazy Anna's boxing as well on the fight pass. But that's February twenty eighth in topa niche, Washington. March first Hollywood Florida on tell them window so boxing's blowing up so shout out to our guys at the fights three PM Pacific, six PM eastern catch Randy Gordon, and Jerry Cooney as they break down some of the big matches that have taken place or that are upcoming. And of course, they land. Some really really great interviews. So shout out to those guys jumbo. Josh is also on that squad. All right. We're gonna take one more break right now. You're listening to 'em may junkie radio on by nation channel eighty three. Stay close. We'll be right back. Vo. Tell your boss to reschedule that meeting. 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And I wanted to ask you, Freddie, all these interviews you've done over the years. You know, whether it be forever may because you obviously corner I'm Amiga is in boxing. Whether it's a boxer everything have you ever been able to get out everything you've wanted to get out or do people just stick to the combat sports and not ask you about other pressures. You may have. You know, is is different. We Dan Patrick Gandhi's homework. He really really knew my life. Very well. He knew my Alea's you that he knew that much more than I thought anyone could acquire anything. He gets his homework, and he talked to the right people. And I think the his interview was like my best one ever feels because it was honest, and he knew more about me than anybody. Well, that's awesome to hear. And again, folks, I was mentioning to our audience earlier the replay undeniable, but Dan, Patrick is everywhere. So I'm a direct to consumer. But I looked and this thing is being shown all weekends all weekend. Long seven pm ten pm eastern Pacific. And then a one AM same thing eastern and Pacific and then tomorrow all day. So I was able to record it yet again. But catch Freddie Roach on deniable with Dan, Patrick, Freddie. So since we're in MMA show, I did want to ask you about what you thought of the retirement of George Saint Pierre gentlemen, you worked with very closely. About six years now, and he's one of the best guys in the world. And I'm I've disappointed that he's retiring. But yeah, I yeah. I knew we at least. And I thought we'd get through that. But unfortunately, we we put and so we decided to retire. It's a little bit sad. But he's got a great where the great person in may. Lose be one of my best friends for life. Well, that's awesome to hear do you have a favorite GOP story. Or maybe can you share the the first time you ever met him or he walked in your Jim, you know, what he was like then to what he was till the last day you or the last time you cornered him or worked with them. Hit by Jim he came to Philippines, with me with many tack out. And he's embarrassed by term workout after packing house where it go get his I can't keep up with it is speeding. Oh. He was on his car anywhere. You're gonna love it the game. And then I had you down and get him. And I walked out and I walked right over demanding dress room get dressed by himself in a second right in this them to know each other and it worked out rate. We're got very well. They we we had a great workout with with both guys in those new audience for him in with the Filipinos, and it's a very likable audience. That's great to hear. All right goes. What do you have four forty Roach, Freddie, and interview like that too? So in depth and all about you. What were your nerves like before that do you get nervous for something like that? Because every now and again like you said. Not that you have skeletons in your cousins. But sometimes people just bring up stuff that you forget about or that, you just you know, you weren't expecting the habit in an interview. Do you get nervous for things like that? I mean, I get little butterflies still being anxious of what they're going to ask in that with the Dan Patrick in the questions that he asked me. And so I was like I I had forgotten some of those stories and and he brought him back to life. And you know, I'm sure he gets up for my boss when I was telemarketer is a long time ago. He I like I was wondering how you get a hold of him very difficult person. They got hold of. I am trouble. And but then he made me feel really comfortable, very honest on the show, and the the questions lead to like some crazy nights, and I've had them in my life. And it's been it's been a great experience. Freddie, I grew up watching you through boxing, and I never thought I would see you come over to Yemen may side, and I saw that. And then now this new things starting to pop up, and I wanted to get your take on it, the bare knuckle boxing that we've been seeing some boxers do some mixed. Martial artists have done it. What's your take on bare knuckle boxing? I'm. Well, I was new streak base my life. So. I I would have done. Okay. A better bare knuckle bikes because I never heard my hand without gloves on I only broke my hands when I had gloves on it and numbers revise seven in my life. And they're not go. I've never really hurt my hands from maybe that'd be a plus I for me. All right, Dan, Tom our fight analysts. What do you pretty Roach? Hey, Freddie, big fan. Just one question kind of a random one that kinda ties GSP every once in a while. I like going way back in history, and the boxing and finding boxers that we don't really talk about. And I found one name editor Joffrey the golden bantamweight. He liked GSP also retired with only two losses and even though George came back after Johnny Hendrickson win the middleweight title like editor jaw we kind of had a rough a unanimous decision win. And then use that even though he wanna use that as a sign to kind of get out on top. If you will am I wrong by seeing those parallels. And are you a fan of a fan of of the the younger way classes before your time? Even like, an editor Joffrey. Yeah. You know, the is very difficult. I mean, I retired at twenty seven people say used so young though, I say I had fifty four pro fights. So I I wasn't that young in the number price wars and then Marvin Hagler to cigarette Leonard and won't fight a rematch in very unusual handled. A very good friend of mine lives in Italy doing very well. But you know, he was offered so much for that rematch with with Leonard outrageous numbers and everybody would would happen. And he he was so embarrassed. I he tell you won the first fight and he just moved Italy began by a different person. Freddie. I know we're jumping around here. We just got one minute left. How about Aaron PICO? How long would you like him to sit out before he comes back? He took a, you know, a bad KO there. But he's got such a bright future amazing wrestler. Great hands. What would you advise? Need a little time right now. And he's still having a little trouble getting over. What happened? Have you made a young man say, and you know, again, say semifixed, so he does have a bright future out of the way. But you know, the the Spence big it sixty nine that's been and we'll sit out on we have to Baggies, Jim. And this Morgan are not making those anymore. You just a wrong young man, though. And these happened. Folks. Catch Freddie Roach all weekend long. It's replaying. It's undeniable with Dan Patrick on AT and teens audience net and aside from that you can catch them on direct TV channel one or channel thirty nine. If that's what you got. It's an amazing interview. And Freddie, thank you so much for poppa in here on the enemy junkie radio show. We appreciate your time. Got his anytime. Okay. We'll see. All right, folks. There you have it. That's Freddie, Roach week sat out the jumbo Josh for laying that up and we're up against the clock here. And now Jessica, and draws is gonna join us in studio here, she'll be battling rose novel units that you've see to thirty-seven in Rio de Janeiro Brazil. So we'll yes last the title challenger how she's feeling that. She's beginning your camp because that event takes place on may eleventh again in Rio de Janeiro, and it's for the UC's straw title. Don't touch that. Dial folks is going to be a good one. Harry. Thanks for listening to them. I may junkie radio. I wanna take this time to let you know about our producer Danny show. It's called popping off and at airs live twice a week. Wednesdays nine PM eastern, six PM Pacific and Thursdays. Eight pm eastern five PM Pacific. You can find the show. If you missed the live show, you can find the recording on itunes Spotify or YouTube the following day. Check it out. It's a lot of fun, and you get to see a little bit more of our producer Danny's personality and my phone just rang in the background Salter. Popping off with us in studio. We have Tom Haine from dead. You got real socked in the base mean the show is very very in you, thanks. It's very like rough house e and eight new stunt men hanging around everyone on the shows just jumps in and gets involved. And that was my rude awakening to the show being chased round field by Newman, and then him grabbing me and touch me in the face as a saying that everyone his when they first join riches welcomes the Walking Dead, and this it was said in this kind of like just doing cult working watch live on the YouTube stream. Bob, blah, blah here. Those two dummies Georgian goes. All right. We're back. And now we're joined in studio by Jessica undrawn, who'll be facing rose now units at UC to thirty seven in Rio de Janeiro Brazil, Jessica will be challenging rose for her you have c- straw title. She and we're also joined in studio by her manager the sorry te'o or the TI. Right. Okay. Yoga will also translate. So welcome. Jessica. Hi, how are you? Thanks so much. I think you know, more than your leading on. Did you go follow helm Asia? I can speak. So we just heard a few days ago they're switching from t- woulda Rio de Janeiro. Do you guys know why did they anybody? Explain it to you. Bill Cash could follow monkeys kid. Seven-seat dodgy known to have a certain luta concern, including cheap she chino arsenal. Konrad Meisel Conrad Ching-yuan clouds connote, you look in the end. Ritchie bone who always bow in. Don't maybe on the cavalier who have say who that avrek Richie from Dada Maestra, Newport, Daniel cars, Lippert Lou to cover Israel. Ski known motion split them wounds. The contract that wasn't relocation was still to be Thurman. Oh, we we did hear about Ritchie. Wa you know, it was supposed to in Brazil for us pretty nice because that's close where she comes from couldn't use. Yes. The shifts from what Emma which is about two hours from from Cuba. And that's what she lives now. No, she leaves in Rio. She right. That's what I thought right next Rioni toys like the senior, right? Just go over the bridge in Europe. And so there wasn't really a city unto that we were told about, but like now that we they didn't give a reason because they didn't think as city, I write so Anderson. So it didn't help things out. Right. He kept mentioning Cudi, Tiba and other people can. But then again, like, it's not something that Jessica said, but could achieve only really has two sizes of arenas. It's huge. Or it's way too small for Dr. So either they have a show for fifty thousand people or to have show for like three. That's so yes, I think that what probably happened is. They didn't get the Carter. They wanted to fill out a fifty thousand seat arena and then moved to the location in Rio where they're more. You figure that could've performed a miracle here or there right like the expense. That you go through just showed that big honor was saying he wants to fight over there. Reggie like Connor and all the honor and the cowboy or whatever and then the title fight, boom. One two punch Stewart did here league at some point that they they wanna try to all female weight classes belts being defended on the same card. Yeah. That'd be. Yeah. I don't know what happened there. But I think their main focus, I would imagine would be to have cyborg fighting for the belt having a Ramesh there. Gotcha. That or probably help sell out the the arena. Okay. You'll have dead then maybe under sun, although five there too. So, but I think something that don't happen. That's what they had to move. So you live in Rio. So you're happy that it's unreal. W you know, he'll is. Is the main keep bail, caloric Donahue, genera, NIA aggregate key, vibrant account book, polka the way in. I really like to be in Rio because you know, I I'm about an hour away from Regina, and it's really hot area right now. So roses probably gonna have to deal with that. That's going to be a problem. What the fights in may. So that'll be what like sprint? No. It'll be entering winter. Right. Saying unite don't write them more Sunday's Fidel with a pair to do then. We'll see the critical McCain right up Bamber father who put elevate a key key Simao clemency mice. Brutal gang donkeys, roaming, the main quest persona Dallas could our who've I MO here. Here. It's going to be getting close to winter. But it's to wintering real, so yeah, the weather. It's always, humid. It's still going to be warm. So it's going to be a bit different from what she used to in Colorado. And you have the added pressure of having to prison in crowd chant. Moorhead new ninety mo- head. Say brasileiro ghost Buddhist negoti, whereas enchila- Danta button over three episodes. My I cups or more. Moheli soy asked her why you're gonna die. You're gonna die. When the history of Brazilian sports. Don't only no one's ever diet. We don't want that. So why not like you're gonna get kicked? You're gonna get your ass kicked. Like, they can't change it or something. Invasion. Follow over Moyer survive. The most bunko. More than. L I skit. Get my phosphide over morehead who vote is burqa. Sounds better. Let's. Station over there meeting. Translation, we've got your. Better. Get you're asking. Get your asking you're gonna get your rescue. And now he's not necessarily like I haven't made thing like that has been going on for two. A lot of sports. Okay. Teasing people with that. So you're going to lose. That's not too bad. Right. I have the ring. Jessica when you look at Rose's fights. Okay. And you look at her losses. Is there? One thing in particular that you could say was the same in all three losses. Something in common with does not hose. It was sacrifice. Sacrifice by the skeleton of Doppler, the Benjamin loot. Jose Ila available in the Moines tonight does does which Muslim, but Garnett. Suic- achieved that's been made as little as they are knife say yes, which must vote as other mandible Song-Chol Dave category. Shigella Miller rotunda partial ourselves the show my. Walker you to king known as is. Oh, cool. Siham say to bang to three. Non Brady's known the shop rashes scare John David assurances you come ya. Yes. Shot starts by promo a hose get up as AM McCoy's shot that may Ustinov shows the keys of Arkansas. Rose had a really big of Aleutian in in our style, ending her performances in the if you look at what she did or yon what she has done later fights or a very much improved fighter. But in my case my fight against her. I think it's not that much about what she has done wrong. But more I have done wrong. What had cost me fights before? And that's what we're working on more than anything. I know that our styles match up well together, and I think I can beat her. But it's more about non leading her beating than me beating her like what she said about the styles make matchups because this is one of the fights. Where think if they fought ten times, you would have ten different pipes. There's so many different scenarios of how this can play out. And a lot of them may fans like t's what's called 'em math. Right. She's beaten somebody who's beaten you. But you've beaten a few people that are beaten her. It just seems like there's so many different routes in the spite does she feel like not only she gonna fight her this one time, but possibly even see her. More times throughout her career. Chillers? Sedan persona Kiala Luther pudgy dodge investigators e funds on winter was the D'amoto match Kaji L about the owners will save us about demon year. Rush Kia phantom pope on this project going Shackleton, mice going via kessel with the buzzing Loppy Senec database, modal mauvais sports investments. Ill walk legit to kiss scene. Everyone. Loose fitting. Lupu Kwan who's males more host residue Azure. Wanna NATO multiple in Kosovo, eat the key thing. My shelf survey Namone Spillers children, dilute and f q Dame mice force will go graduate coupla bash along empowered miso ill. Komo's Abe elevate. Ceo Premila vetoes run your own way. Don't twenty. Twenty comb Kompass key taboo scandal in the Vitor. Don't go skiing though. Traveled a mill mass more the anthem MS with two shows you the Ceja Bamba see the team pocus quizzes skills. So Murat Ceylan dump not force Shkin. Come ya? They say they were such will soup. They're supposed to. I think the my style relate plays along with a lot of finish. Does you know? I think that I know that I'm stronger her I I don't have much question about it. And I think that if I can get her to the ground, and I can probably work, you know, make be a little bit. And it is a five round fight. So got to see where it goes. But I don't see already finish there at all. And again lake she does have a lot of little holes that I can work with. And I know that she's studying Dave on me. And she knows what I have done before. And how it can be a problem. So we'll see I'm just making sure that I'm the best. They can be just working on on the problems that I've had before together to when I getting there. You know, I'm ready to beat anyone up Giambi rose. Our guest is Jessica and Drage she will be challenging rose NAMA UNICEF for roses. Straw title. You have straw title on may eleventh UC to thirty seven in Rio. Malaysian air over Zil and check out the winds that Jessica has she's beaten Jessica penny. Who's a former Invicta champion? She's beating JoAnne Calderwood who's on a throne streak right now at flyweight, I think two or three in a row Angela hill. Who was also an Invicta trolley champion cloudy. Adele, you who's all long time like top to top three star way in the world. Teesta Torres longtime top ten fighter in the world as well and caroliina cage. Also, a title contender also top fighter for a long time. So you got a remarkable Ron a straw poll. Say how much they sickly someone about good? Visit by. Those. Faye to the in cone child who as seek you for this as lose Nike shoes. Financial scared on one million receiving ourselves. He told the moon locadia Wauschkuhn Elliott Cobb. Demise hop to Pollino votre Quayle academy g Mia force academy MIR tag, they'll to say to. Karolinska for which Mckee at all. Imma throw Dorin foyer hop. Additional loot. Have key Vamos CME ever sold dumped on its own cotton parcheesi show gone that there the case zimu dare. Your schools again, Ronald yoga, they'll show get up at Allerton fate economical ski Bena locales over the key. Mr. simply as lupita co point four verse our sales Cathro casualty right buttock Arsenault there forever. She the Lou show. So I was just solve of my spot. I used to vote in trouble LuPone Rocco. Really good work like as a team to to get her to the point where she is. Now. It's always one of the good things. We had a lot of time tour, you know, when she fought Jalil. Okay. Let's see how this striking goes. Let's just tried to go and do what she does best eagles when she fought Claudia. You know, you'd was at at Claude his strength that she ended up winning the fight and cutting shows expecting a really good striking match and boom began injured. And that's the big thing. Like, we were able to use the fights in UC to evolve and to get better and better and better and went comes time to file fight rose. Can do what you can do the groundwork who can make it get the fine standing up. I believe like right now, the best pointed I have been in my career groundwork is on point striking's on point. So I'm pretty much ready to whatever comes. And you're the favorite you're minus one sixty according to the oddsmakers rose the champion is the underdog at plus one thirty what they take into account is your skill sets and a little bit of your popularity. So that's that's a pretty impressive line. Not too often is the challenge of the favourite. As you know law system sick more than that. You know, I went to call moist thousand bingo, thing computer base juice of any tonight is leveling up. Though. Mice. What could you Tokyo ill say as was komo's ever rookie in through passage, fitness, mice will Oji follicles over eat demise. Avoid tra- Gomez commendable cicle HBO. Thank you. Tigres died. You think they'll millery noise? Issues poverty. Cookie-cutter Luton luta the budget riot for sky income. To the Portage finish. And they don't will. Join thrown the quantum Cabeza com. Fiancee's Yukio those off of the Keough thank Dalmer Madonna. We understand how the betting lines work, and you know, it school that the fans are are seeing defied that way. But in my ad. I'm coming on. Like, I always try to do, you know, I don't believe that. I am better than anybody. And I know that I have to overcome whatever's is in front of me in all. And that's the thing. She's the champion for a reason. And you gotta go there and got a beat the champ to become the champion or that. I can cost on a fighter. I gotta go there. Probably gotta finish heart. Just work. My best to to dominate in order to get the belt, and that's the whole plan. Just gotta going there any impose my game. And you know, if they're lines. I right. You know? You know, maybe a lot of people are going to make a little bit of money on me. Not just gotta go against it him and tried to make it work snake saying all the right things. I sure isn't. I'll tell you one thing though, you said the word coast. She never coz I mean, she is nonstop folks. Jessica draws goes out there and FOX people up that's the best way. I can put it whether it's punches ground and pound slams suplexes. It doesn't matter man. You're you're very exciting because of the high pace that you carry in your fights. So one thing's for sure this fight is not going to suck. Again, you have thirty seven in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, it will be a pay per view. Also on that card is Jared cannon here. Anderson Silva, I'm sure it will continue filling, but it's still three months away. But I'm really really excited about this fight. I want to educate me on something because I think I may have been saying the wrong thing, but I'm not sure the females in mixed. Martial arts have created their own identity over time. I'm now, but whenever I talk about your fighting style. I compare you to Vanderlei Silva. Okay. And I've heard that from other people as well. But I don't know if it's right to compare a female mixed martial artists to a male mixed martial arts. Like, I don't know if that's offensive or not how do you feel when people do that we just saying that store style or do you kind of like it, you know, Ben? And they said it was a big figurehead in Brazil. Siquijor jury of kids follow through his children. Are similarly folic was some of these over the might Shelley. Keo Putnam outlet of Nina cone, must also quizzical sash Akeem. On the cycle. But other cones my art is econ- is Ned. Do me out phases. Starting on wife say no pride in key premise, slow Jolan. A vicki. Your cycle. But I don't know the moonshine mayor Jim Ryan Quayle. With Belize thing is Scott us only dump Quayle. Chris board. There's no problem at all. I have no we should being compared to one of the greatest ever be compared to someone that had the success that he did in pride and later on if see and someone that we know from the history books that everybody was afraid of standing in front of them. I guess. Good. Like being compared to him and some forth. Doug about her comparing her to cyborg, no either way or grace, flat great fighters and being compared to them. It's not a problem at all. There's only one thing that off on the comparison. And I don't know how good is her. Can you do that? Boy. All right. I'm still just I can't stop staring at that hitlist for whatever we've covered her on the show before we promoted or fights. And then maybe we spent so much time focusing on that one particular fight, but that's an impress. So Jessica's history is she started off seven and one and like the losses. She has art equality quality some now flyweights, but at the time bantamweights because there really wasn't a flyway division for a while. So she's taking a loss to Jennifer. Maya lose commerce Marian Renault and retail painted. I can tell you right now on all the USA today. Sports rankings Amer Megyn rankings all those fighters ranked but ever since she dropped she's gone six and won her only loss was to you Anna nj chick. She's gotten four bonuses. And she's coming off a devastating KO punch over caroliina complicated with still penny called what hill Goodell Torres caroliina colic h I mean. That is really really a nice run. Your on best decision you ever made. Now, I want to ask you though. And you don't have to summarize everything else should understand that I'm saying things about her. But. But what I wanna know is if she did ban them, and she went down to straw. And I know she's one forecast pastor fight. But now that flight wait opened up will that be attractive for at some point down the road or straw? Wait it for her infamous internet. This okay door, the nitric said this for your own person could Wisman chancing such accusing Sach I want this. Is this year? John Mayes measure, novocur, boys. Fizzles chess something we'll vegetable towns of now also hunk on what bearing over the, but the is. You're listening. Our CV. Jumped over the male warriors up. Go the gained their Machado may those loose. They go to us. Ers graduate see suggesting put in that for special success, fossils are ISM. Now, I think if on my place at Stroh eight that's where I think if the bass where can have the most advantages with my physique and everything, but remember, no if there's like a special fight to do it's flyway maybe less than Otis things some fight that I interesting doing someone that I want face that could probably work again just for the record lake. We were at the guy, and she just weighed in and she's one forty five right now. Jessica. Yeah. I don't believe in really. Competitive. So she still has thirty pounds ago. Yeah. They got the body chemistry in the attrition, and you like the PR. Very good. Yeah. They did a lot of tests on her. Just figuring out some stuff like another interesting thing that we got today was that the body mass muscle mass bone density, her bone density is she's on the top two percent of women her size and muscle mass. She's on the one percent. So I guess classes is the right one. I don't wanna causeways or anything. But today did they raise an eyebrow to being thirty pounds over her fighting that somehow concern with sorry? I'm not phrasing. That is a concern in MMA. We don't want the fleet suffering too much yet. That's the thing. Like, they did the the body scan for everything and and the summary said, you know, she is bigger aid. But Stroyev's class for her considering her body mass and muscle, mass and everything what's your favorite American food cost me. The Dominican wings. Phila wings. Buffalo wings. To Michika Thailand. Kitschy medic was less available wherever she comes your shoe after fights and stuff shoe just have everything that is different because back home. There's a lot of stuff that we don't have. So we'll have Taifu have Mexican food. We'll have winks. And a good eater. All right. Just got another couple more for you. Hear your twenty seven years old how much longer do you wanna fight that will be in such data job that funds such sexual? Sexual badge Italian Thelma string. They see miso man citgo here. Bang at don't stingy deceit was missing. They says inch by courtroom score Puna Vicario Cossiga. We might skew day says you'll go quit you allow Vaco tougher. So. Boy, I would like to go up to maybe thirty five. But then again, gotta feel the body and at some point about he's going to say that you gotta stop. But who knows maybe it doesn't say thirty five she might be fighting after thirty five. I never know what she was gonna stop. But as you can get a ambassador job for the scene. Brazil all garra. Garra? Langley's? Back and forth. I'm sorry. How are you going to be an ambassador of you? Don't speaking. Lease buy at conveyances on very helpful. Correct. Linguists? Everybody next year. It'd be there. Okay. Here's why I asked about how many fights left because cyborg has said, I may only have one left now recently, she said to sorry newness cyborg is also said at one point, you know, that that she wasn't going to fight too much longer Michel take one day retired. Like, I need she lost her title the Nunez. I was shocked when she lost when she retired after the Pennington fight MacKenzie. Dern is now announced to the world that she's pregnant, you know, so for different reason Nina answer off as well wants to start a family. So now that we're learning more about women's of may. And now, we have you know, good ten twelve years to build on since coronal and all them got things going on on on the big spotlight. We're learning more. But what I'm trying to figure out is. What that what's that number? I guess that creeps up into a woman's age where they start thinking. Hey, I may want exit. I got the guys down the lighter away guys thirty five heavyweight guys forty sometimes a little bit more. I'm trying to figure out the lady Saint. Man up shown. Busy Mayes lead must put in business. My says, I don't spotting. I don't choose one. Active for me. Sachet Thaddeus, memento under sash on that other light up sort of? Scare marry those skiing the gnome thing feed. The cat field. Pro pro major youth the. Who financial was Kaleen the shake while oughta Kim with mice defeat. Sal bre, but I Don is Lou canning to feed newsasia terminals. You've insurance by the schedule thing, you never getting sausage ahead. Can they all think feed to throw on scale by cohere Mayes look ahead of their own stem? They said due to the pay to the them. Larry do log on these millennium Maleta Kozel. Get malaria Gossage. Italian Lutheran gos- g Dow Miller he has each has business cyber hyphen though contest. A little bit different. You know, because if you want to raise a family, there is a time stamp there where you can still do it for women for man, you can get it on whenever you want. But if you want to raise a family as a woman most people would say thirty s maybe a little bit before that. But each is a lot from from people to people. But maybe if you have a cute already you can come back to fighting reknown. Andre alley as a kid. And one thing that people say that women really only get there like women strength after they have a baby. And I think it comes a lot. I thought it was maybe hormonal, but I think it's a little bit physiological where you have to carry a little over everywhere you go. So it's kind of like you're doing starting dishing full force for light longtime with no rest. So I think that actually does change women quite a bit on the distressed side. So I think for for Jessica lease 35-ish. It's probably where where the limit is. Do you? Do you feel like if you win the title defendant? Maybe you might be considered one of the best. If not the best female Brazilian fighter or maybe even resilient fighter over such. I will sash bicycle stood out of the ones. But as Leila's the mantel told sustained pleasure killer. The NFL offering. Key Bassa Paso, girl. The lead through site is or skip what they wound GIO Toyota. Brazil miser stay on the loan like the may have converged into nine. I don't I started. The main thumbs no say quantum away me. I don't the in the mood about Lackey's abso race into ruins to the hell. I really want to be in the books, and I know that getting about this a big thing, you know, it's one way of guaranteeing that you're going to be remembered, but as far as being the best I'm other has to belts. No. So what have to do to get ahead before, you know, for her get three that's gonna be rough belts. I am nicer maybe. On that aspect? Maybe do you guys think of GSP's retirement? Session without pushing thirty of little dry. Sump Yankee myself. Dr Josh skin longevity. This was paddled up is now getting the champion rumors that I I don't keep it simple mood firm. Meiser keesa was anti the pose seat. You look s scenic on the sidewalk Calvin Pagis Chizhikova brass g the Kalomo. So R Kelly advocate, never magilla yelich. Yeah. Yelich both. We have like yearly. I log whiskey the judge chapels in throwing don't keep our own sample Ned Jaguar article core aluminum Mayes, Kabul, yellow Mosca basis GAC. Might been mental core problem is out gay three Schnur Cargill simple. Mid four mice. I I wasn't a little bit upset about him retired. But then again. His proper retirement was a few years ago. This was just an extra fight in Oregon. And we know that a fighters have that feeling where they really like after a while you have the firing you that you'd need to, you know, be put in competition against someone to try to get your arm raised and for sure that's something that happened just to him. But so many others, and I know that when I do retire. Eventually the fire is gonna be the on their and who knows maybe I'll come back. That's I think probably the reason why so many of them may retirements are only temporary everybody just says, okay, I'm done then they comes and got it again. And he was one of the best could say that he was the best of all time. And the first time he retired that one way. We would have liked to seen him fight for a couple more years, maybe neck, then and didn't really see the need for the return. Now could have may be finished whole psycho at once without the need to extra fight now. I've kind of silly question. And it's for all of us the testing at the PI the bone density muscle mass, the correct weight all that in America. They say that the biggest fear for Americans public speaking and ander stand that if we had to go in and do that test. I would probably be sweating. I would be very nervous because I know what I'm supposed to be as far as wait. Did she feel that same way like an anxiety towards it? Or was it more like an excitement to know where she's at and and YouTube guys to answer that wouldn't you kind of feel that like when you were there or you just kind of like. That's the thing. I wouldn't wanna walk. Curious to see how I would do just to have a pyramid or what a regular person looks like, and what a proper high level athlete looks like suck because I look really terrible compared to, but it would be nice. I think to just see a. Looks like today because it's like when you look at her numbers like, okay, they're good. I guess, but what is the regular person that Blake and all we did see numbers of other fighters, but. Okay. We know that they are at high level, but it's hard to compare to just to have a standard too. Was that public? Those other numbers that private some of the stuff not the bone density in that. But there was some other tests for had because when you do some of the test the ask if you would allow them to release them for. So what the numbers that are public that you can tell us tells like, oh got the best standing jumper something. It wasn't even on that side was like some they have this program called omega wave where they can figure out how well you are in the morning to see what it can do today as far as training goals and on that thing they had like Henry. So who was like the the big guy that they were. Showing it and they had the like his results from when he fought Demetre Johnson and to titlefight afterwards. Oh, so that was pretty interesting onto this readiness test. They also had the Chinese kayaking team Olympic team right now. Full of Chinese ladies, huge ones. Yeah. Strong nearly killing all the machines there and kayaking. Yeah. Really strong. When. Chinese. Huge. They're like Pollard EMMY like shoulders here. Really impressive. Chinese team right female. Yes. He knew and they had impressive. What? Now like zero their readiness late this test that they do it in the morning. Everybody was like, oh, they wake up ready to work out everybody one hundred percent Jessica's first day. She was like twenty percent because of the lag and everything so. Just to I don't wanna know. Well, let me tell you something. Thank you so much for coming down. I wanna wish you the best of luck in this camp. I think you're an amazing fighter. And I think this is going to be a great fight against Uruguay challenges. She's a great champion. I can't wait for this. And I and I'm telling you this honestly from guy that's one of the slower ones to embrace women's of a main. I love the high level females across all the divisions. But I've always said there's a drop off. But I'm telling you, this is one man that you can't miss this one. This is going to be a great fight. So I wish you the best of luck and health and travels on event. So kinda cute. Busted, his estates FM unanimous Jewish but also sparked. Vacant? Fitting someone to good into alternate road years year, west mice, KOMO secret of a lotta ticket tickets cube kale main show alter Neil. Keep your with us Opio. Some of the Cosa Gables was with us boss is Zan visible winkles into round. Gonna bring the belt, and I got this. She'll bring the belt. She wins the fight. I like it. I like it. We'll be able to me. First one in the US is going to be with you guys. Well, thank seriously camp. Thank you for bringing her by geogra- who your other athletes, just working with Jessica do you have right now. On television. They're just no strata with Holly five and Niger Qassim. God is fighting in which then Priscilla team made is fighting London. After got a mighty that. He gets fighting in the field card yong-koo Alava fighting over to share in Miami. And that's all for now. But we got about about ten fighters. All right. You're welcome to stop by sometime cold hosted an episode with us if you're ever in Vegas now, we can dive into some other topics and cover some news aside from what you got on good. All right. We gotta take a break. That's Jessica, and draws folks who will be fighting rose number Eunice on may eleventh at UC to thirty seven in Rio de Janeiro Brazil. It's a quality main event. These are too high ranked fighters, and they are gonna deliver. I just know because Jessica puts on too good of a pace for that. Not to happen. We'll be back don't touch that. Dial radio nation challenge. Three. To the fight. Then the ring announcer gets this is your home for all things combat theory is that exemplify nation channel ninety three and on your phone with the Sirius XM. Brothers Garcia seemingly Kelly green on a everybody knows. It's duck season product season duck season, whether it's through our spilling great spelling place. Great gabbling, always bet on black red black reading Clark, black, dummy even social media Instagram. Instagram, snapchat. The same applies to the biggest stories. Time for ever may junkie radios. Galley? All right here, we go guys. Here's today's debate. Saturday's hashtag, you see show starts early North America. Do you like the rare early Saturday events like hashtag, you see Prague or do you prefer your fights? In a typical Saturday night slot here. Your choices free up my Saturday nights. Saturday night fights set way, Saturday night, equal fights. Occasional day is okay or is retired. Who cares? As long as there isn't college football. On a Saturday. I'm okay with it. But if it's going to interfere with that. And then I'd rather just deal with the fight that night, and that's just my Saturday. But with the gone, it's kind of nice now, you got your night to do whatever you want. Right. So you wouldn't be more the occasional guy, by occasion, you mean from September till December. No, don't do it. Gotcha. How about you? Dan, Tom, man, it's tough as I've gotten older. I don't know if it's getting older I've watched so many fights or I just watched so many fights throughout the week. I get a little number. I need to kind of ease into the day. Because like, you know, sometimes, you know, ACB your cage warriors your wake up, but they'll have their Saturday night playing for our Saturday morning, which is a little bit of a trick question there when we were trying to tackle this. Right. And but but but it's apropos because when that happens guys, I feel like it's a little too early for me now eight year old, Dan, Tom could walk wake up every Saturday morning to watch wolverine and fight magneto. If you know what I'm saying, right? That's right shots, the X men there. But it's not as pow bulls. Like, I need any as an adult anytime you're up in the actual this fights. Violence, so Saturday night's fight night for me. Nice. Both you guys had really really great answers. For me. I'll take it. You know, it not only does it interfere with because I'm also thinking like one championship and some other cards at started early. Exactly. Yeah. China to those guys they got their act together. But it can also interfere with a little bit of English Premier League as well as college football. But you know, what the magic of Tibo has me able to of like manipulate dance around whatever I need to. So don't you wanna watch it lives that you can tweet with everybody else. Sure. I've heard of these various. Yeah. But those cards are rare where you're like, oh my God. I gotta catch block and Mahanta Santa. We say that now. But what ends up happening is when it does go down, and you miss it, you go, I think and. Tackling give me one of those cards where I can't miss it yet. But I've yet to have it where why I've had that problem, you know, the start and stop I got my Roku shout out to minjah things like that. Laptops, and TV's. I I can settle it. So it does up my Saturday night. But I'm like you, Dan, I'm conditioned from my boxing days watching boxing with our dad and having boxing fight nights to now may that that's just a night to enjoy combat sports. And I'm ready for it. If I'm off I'm up. Luckily, we live in a great city where Sunday night is just as popular as Friday night Tuesday night. You know what I mean? And and you can watch you know, when a lot of people are like, oh my God. What's gotta say next or whatever. No, don't no disrespect to those guys. I can watch that later. Right. But I can hit the club or go out and drink or do whatever at ten pm. Now, these coasters have a different it's one AM on man, you're really messing Vegas. We got til we could drink all the time. So beggars, George no problems, man. But but so cowed George Saade a little bit different a little bit more handcuffed. I'm closer to just free up my Saturday night from time. I would say this though, it just doesn't feel important. When a fight win of a big fight, a main event is happening at noon or one PM. It just doesn't have that feel of like you said all your boys are around. It's nights drinking all day. It almost makes you feel like it's not important even though that's not what they're trying to do here. But I have that little bit of that feeling. You know, there's not a lot of there's not a lot of four plane fight sports guys. It's easier to get geared up, for example, back in the NBA days. When I watch NBA you'd have those long runs you'd have a couple of games and even in the first game, you kind of get geared up. You know, you don't have to be the live event. But something about a sports arena game kinda warm. Wind gradually words fights or something about it. You you skip right to the good stuff. Yeah. Definitely. But here's how broke up guys. Here's book down. I should say occasional day of MA is okay. What's thirty four percent? The voting was real close. Twenty nine percent said Saturday nights equals fights. So those hardcore that just don't want anything to mess up there, Saturday nights. Twenty percent said free up my Saturday night. Want to go out and prance around the town. And then those seventeen percent that are just so consumed by GOP's retirement. Care dancer at a everybody that voted we appreciate it. And that's the daily for today. All right. And with that we gotta bounce right back to another break because we went really long with Jessica undrawn here. But it was a fun time with her, and she's a great fighter she's integrate fight. She's gonna be in a fight with rose number youths in Brazil, but that's still three months away. So plenty of time to talk about that. We'll be back to close up shop, stay close. Previously on X men. Injuries. Forced them to retire undefeated from Emma with a record of. Oh, and oh, they are gorgeous Georgia go, and this is MMA junkie radio. All right. This is the hoops Sirs is just underway. Started at nine thirty eastern the Utah Jazz. They're battling the Oklahoma City thunder on NBA radio series. Two seven x eighty six streaming on your phone and at home on six connected devices in speakers selfishly, you may not put it onto seven or eighty six for the next six minutes. That's when the show is gone, and we'll be gone for the weekend. And by the way, let me do this quick little round up. And then we'll do our our final dues all of our guests for the week, including have your Vasquez have your Mendez Neil Melanson stopped by our studio. Robbie Lawler, Mike. Bon Jared cannon near Freddie Roach. And Jessica on drives next week. We have some fun shows lined up there some that I can even. Forecasts lou. Yeah. What's up? Yeah. Sound like MRs Doubtfire when he said that. On Monday, Ben aspirin and Jeremy Stevens on Tuesday. We have to in studios. Teasha tars and Diego. Sanchez in one. Is we have to in studios. Dan, you're gonna like this one cat Maki gall and Johnny Walker. Yeah. Cat six six for Rochas, dude. But he he's also got a I've seen an interview that he did with our colleague Fernando practice in Brazil, and his English is it'll work. We don't need a translator. But in that, you can just tell he's kind of quirky and jokes around. You know, what I mean seismic that to be a fun interview? He looks like the type of guy that can compartmentalize really well and. When it's time to fight. He'll be Johnnie Walker. You know, lively, dude, funded or whatever once he's in the octagon and the other guys in the gone and everyone's out but them to in the wrath, and they lock it someone's getting messed up, and that seems pretty destructive as right now. But I say that's the guy that's gonna take out John. I don't want to be the first guy to say that. But I think he's got an interesting unorthodox skill set. And I think that's what it would take to be John. Joe no one's really been able to crack the John Jones code DC's once rounds here and there, and so he's come close. But and so's outs of centers while you gotta give him his respect. Not as last fight. But before that, but ethic, everyone everyone. Gets got at some point. I think it'll happen. That'd be it'll have John Jones. It happened to reach us. Johnson reached Johnson with somebody that he had beat very cleanly the first time. So that's the beauty of the sport. And this is to disrespect those great champions. But in DSP just seems like that's just kind of what happens in, and that's fine. You know? I mean, even in boxing hill who was undefeated joke. How Zaggi yeah. Rocky Marciano whether and I think, that's it. Right. I I'm not sure of the more modern guys that maybe somebody went twenty five million bounced, I don't know. But talking about people that went on and had big fights. And we're recognizable. Those the only thing that I can think of and they're very separated in terms of Kohl's getting hung up like ten years ago. Marsciano a good eighty years ago and Floyd was active up until about three years ago. If you throw out the the fight with Conor McGregor so attention, I forgot that one. Yeah. Anyway, guys, any final thoughts on. UC? Prod bucket with Santos, John, John, Dan, you're you're. You're you're. No. But guests on that. Your breakdown. Yes. Okay. Those are milking account breakdowns up with the video breakdown. We recorded. Also, there's one on there. You guys got with the Gallagher, and then for the degenerates out there, of course, I dropped it. A late last night early this morning. The Technic podcast for my picks. Plays in analysis for UC, probably I'm sure we'll we'll talk a bit about. But I'm going to be a lot of talk about next week. I'm trying to finish this one. Dan, I got through about fights. Today. And I think we just ran up on the because we had the bell tours and all that shit. I time stamp at the George euro-oriented writing the same. Same thing happens a lot of people because I I'm a jerk. And I record it like only like twenty four hours or five time. I will time stamp y start talking about the fights. And if you really want to get the end with a pick some plays our recap variant all my picks and plays. So you kind of just skip from the fat. But if you want to listen to me jab on for whatever reason y'all y'all can. But thing I learned from you. You can just hit play and get stuff done like l just yes on some laundry, and folding my t shirts, and I got through about three or three or five or whatever. Or you some lunch or whatever and multitasking is just something. I gotta get much better at but trying to myself I was trying to man, Jeff. Anyway, we'll be back on Monday with another edition of may junkie Rita jumbo. Josh won't be here. But will back with us on Tuesday. Right. Will we cap UFC Prague, and it'll officially be fight week by then we'll probably be on our second embedded. That's hope crosser fingers that nothing happens. And that we have two title fights next Friday here in Las Vegas, March second Tyron Woodley defense against Comorros, man. That's a great fight guys. And then we have Anthony Smith challenging John Jones for use UFC light heavyweight title. So, you know, Ben aspirin finally debut in the against Robbie. Really really is a good card. So we're going to be pretty pumped up next week. We have a lot of in-studio, and that's our job man to crank out these these cover these great athletes. Don't forget to keep a lot of time. I may junkie throughout the weekend. People hustling out in Europe shot the abbey and Simon Simon head. And then we have people hustling back here, man. Getting ready for this big event. All right. We're out of here for Josh, Indiana. 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Anderson Silva, Robert Whittaker, Neil Magny Fired up About Khamzat Chimaev

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Anderson Silva, Robert Whittaker, Neil Magny Fired up About Khamzat Chimaev

"Hello friends it's your old pal area Halawani back with another edition of the Hawaii. Show in today my friends we we've unexciting lineup for all of you. We're GONNA, talk to these spider Anderson Silva. You know there's a lot of talk that he might be retiring. We're going to get the lowdown from the one and only Anderson Silva later in the program talked to Robert Whitaker following his big win this past Saturday over jared cannon near. We will also talk fired up you know Magni you have never heard Neil Magny this upset before please do stick around for all that but before we get to those interviews, let me tell you about a podcast that have actually never talked about on this here. Spot it's called laughter permitted and it's hosted by American, hero Julie Foudy. Yes. The Julie, Foudy of course used to play for the women's national soccer team and she's also really great behind the microphone. So if you want to give it a listen, you can check it out. It's called laughter permitted and you can find it wherever you find your podcast. All right for now today's edition of the Hawaii show as always contains some language that may not be suitable for all audiences. so listener discretion is advised. Enjoy Lays days. Gentlemen. We'll welcome to. Talk. SAW Back in your life on this Wednesday October Twenty, eight, th two, thousand, and Twenty Logan everyone hope well, welcome back to a brand new edition of the Hawaii show and first things first right off the Bat I do have to wish a very happy fourth birthday to my daughter Claire yesterday's her birthday. She's not gonNA listen to this of course, but it's a big day for the best days of my life was when I became a. Girl Dad myself and it's a very exciting time in Hawaii household. That's also very exciting because I love today's lineup on my gosh. Do I love today's lineup? So later on in the program, WE'RE GONNA be talking to Robert Whitaker you'll recall Robert Whitaker this past Saturday combing event UFC. Two, fifty, four had a phenomenal win over jared cannon near afterwards. Dana White said makes a lot of sense for him to fight Israel Edessa next but. Would not the Kinda Guy who likes campaign for We'll remember life wasn't too great when he was champion. So we talked about that quarantining again, second trip to fight island where he goes from here what does he think of izzy potentially moving up to a five to fight yawn behoves all that and more will be addressed with Robert Whitaker later on in the program, we will also talk to a very, very very fired up Neil. Magny. So you know Neil Magny right neil magny has seventeen wins in the UFC's welterweight division. That's number two all time behind the Great George saint-pierre with nineteen and I, don't think a lot of people even know this and the man is continuously disrespected and here we have a situation where for the last few weeks, UFC has been searching all over the place for an opponent for Hums Shemaya of the rising star, the locomotive himself three. Neil Magny second most wins in the welterweight division. Top Ten was sitting in the front of the class with his hands up both hands. Say Please pick me pick me and the UC's like anyone there. Buehler Buehler just completely ignoring him. Then you know what happens with Liane Edwards, they take him out of the rankings after they offer eventually they book hums up versus the on Friday and here's Neil Magny singlet Yo I wanted this fight I asked for this fight. Weeks ago why didn't you pick me? He's upset he's frustrated. He's fired up he thinks they took the easier path. You have never heard Neil Magny like this before please do stick around for that. But first we have to start with Anderson. Silva that's the big story as we head into the weekend Anderson. Silva. Urawa Hall main event I ever UFC Halloween show. They've never done show before on Halloween October thirty first and wouldn't you here's the spider fighting on Halloween now he's forty five. He's obviously been around the block. He hasn't had a great tail end of his career and the promotion leading up to this fight is he's done. You gotTA listen to this I don't feel like he's done. The promotion is telling you he's done but I don't feel like he has done in his heart of hearts I don't feel like he's done any notes so crazy about this whole situation. Yes. Sure. Dating back. To his win over Stefan, win over Stephan Bonner two, thousand twelve was his last finish after that lost wiedeman lost wiedeman. No contest against es lost spink lost a DC beat Derek Brunson although I thought he lost lost izzy lost jared cannon near and you look at that and you probably yourself what's the big deal? If you're a new fan like tst you're probably like what's the big deal? Like who is this guy? He's forty Five he's old like what's the big deal? Let me tell you something there was a time where Anderson so's one of the best athletes on the planet sixteen wins to start his UFC career wasn't just beating guys. He was annihilating them the knockouts. The front kicks to the face, the movement against Forrest Griffin. The stuff that he was doing in the cage had never been seen before this guy if it wasn't for the PD infractions. Debate Habibur John Jones would be in the conversation and there are some people who ignore the PD infractions I don't. But there are some who do and say he is the goat the greatest of all time there was a very long period where Anderson Silva was not only the face of the UFC but considered the greatest pound for pound fighter in the world and the greatest fighter of. All Time. He was that good. They called upon him to headline many shows when they tried to go head to head with affliction back in the day two, thousand and eight off the top of my head they called upon him to fight James Irvine. Yes. July nineteenth two, thousand, eight on a show they cobbled together on Spike, TV to try to take down affliction I mean he was. There guy he was their ace in the hole, and if you go back and look into the archive, some of those fights against rich Franklin and and Nate Marquardt Dan Henderson. I mean just tremendous stuff but now here he is at forty five he has not want cleanly since two thousand twelve and it sounds like they're pushing them out and it sounds like he doesn't WanNa go Anderson. Hasn't really talked a lot in English in in the past that we address that at the top. So sometimes, it's a little hard to really know what he's thinking and how he's feeling but my impression is he's not done. I. Want you to decide for yourself. Here's my conversation with the legend with the inimitable with the one and only the often imitated never duplicated Anderson the spider Silva enjoy. All right. Now let's say hello to one of the greatest fighters of all time the one and only Anderson the spider Silva who returned to action this Saturday October thirty first the spider fighting on the first ever Halloween UFC card how crazy is that against your home in the main event of you've see finite in Las Vegas Anderson how are you? I'm good. My brother could see. Thank you for space here. Thank you for. And Yeah I'm very excited. To take this fight, you know my last fight in. You see I'm so happy I'm so exciting. Well. It's great to see you and hear from your English has come so far from the beginning of your career you've really improved. A lot of credit. Is better the the beginning Oh my gosh. At the beginning you couldn't say a word it was incredible. Terrible. English continue taboo, but is lead earlier better. I love. It can ask you a question Anderson. A lot of people have been saying this is your retirement fight but like you just said right there my last fight in UFC, I don't believe this is your last fight maybe last fighting UFC. This. Is Your last set the record straight for us? Is this really your last period or just your last night and you have see. Probably. This is my last fight in Europe see properly. But let's go see. You know because maybe this fight in something change you know let's go see the result. I'm I'm very focused right now, and despite let's go see the future you know. But don't you have to fights left on your deal and didn't you say you wanted to finish the deal? Yeah. Absolutely I have got. Let's go see you know because. You know fighters fight maybe. Something changed I don't know, but this is my last fight in your seat probably. So there is a part of you. That believes that maybe after this fight, if you look good if you beat your IRA that you will continue. Yeah this is the good question. That's the good. Answer but Special Insert for Dana You oh, because you know is is To talking about this the last or not. But yeah. This is probably in new see this is the last one okay. Dana asked you to retire because sometimes with the fighters he loves chocolate del big dog he's asked them to retire has he asked you to retire. Definitely not. You know you know the game inside you see better than the other people you know and Let's go see I'm very happy. Very happy. You know how much I love this or how much love you see in how much I give my heart and my blood for. An. Let's, go see I'm very excited. I'm very happy in the future is crazy in the mazing. Let's go see. So no hard feelings. No No. Okay. I love it I. Love It. Why Hall why him in this potential last fight? Well, first of all, because this completely make sense because my retrial. Is Not working resume because I take the fight in Brazil for time ago which Ryan but something happened to me and I take the series. And now the fights come back in completely make sense you know. When you started your career if if I would told you, you would make it the forty five and you would still be fighting your forty five. Now would you believe me like this part of your plan? My brother. Let me sending. People ask me about. How much I, love my or? I say wanting. This sport is my. Heart is my air you know. I fight for my entire life in is not a fighting as martial arts for me. I'm the the the good martial art. Artists in Oh in a when a go inside the cage I don't go for fight. I. Go to. To prove in choice Sunday special from offense is not a both fighting is not about being my opponents but choice something special for my fence. I saw on your instagram you had video you said, martial arts saved my life. Change completely my life NC two. How did it Save Your Life? While because you know. I believe the martial arts give me everything I have in my life. You know I done. Different Life for my kids for my wife. Because martial arts, give me. The. Whole. Opportunities know in martial arts. Give me the more excuse for continue vice a lot of problems in my life inside outside the cage inside the sport outside the sports and everything I have today I have because our martial arts give me. Do you feel like people have forgotten just how good you are the sixteen inroad start your career the title defences all that stuff that you did in the early days of UC. Do feel like people have forgotten just how good Anderson Silva was back when you started in the UFC. While I think a lot of people don't. Never, know about my Korea outside you have see because everybody. Watching. You see in watching my Korea when I start use you. I have the loan or outside in. A fight my titleist in training entire life. In when people ask me about while you have a forty five, you've gone in what do you think about? So. I train everyday. with the best guys. In this word, you know the best fighters and every single day I feel. How much my image continuing site this four and I mean I just? Take this fi in. Let's go see the future now because is a very special moment for me from fence and so my whole. A lot of people today are talking about, Habib her Maga made off now is the greatest of all time on Jones says, no, I'm the greatest of all I'm other people say George, saint-pierre other people say you in your opinion who's your pick? Who is the greatest you DSP Jones be what do you think? The great the greatest time all-time ever okay. Degrades ever got. This is decrease ever in MMA what about MMA. I think is. Don't have the best ever the whole times because every single moment every single time come to new challenge the new athletes you know. For me martial arts proves one thing. Don't have the best ever. You know and join join say it's okay. I respect George NPA people say about your some gains okay. I respect the people say that about a beat respect but. You know for me. I'm not the best. I. Just tried to do my best best they can't and. Martial arts I just pray and put her mind using the ground in. Say Thank you God, forgive me everything. Every single moment In I'm not the best. I just tried to do my best single day but. That's the the big challenge you know because nobody's the best. Except Gun. Do. You have any regrets as far as your careers concern? Wow. Every single moment Mike career is a special for me. But. The the special moment. For me is my first I to-, Bell in Japan. With My opponent high out to suck right. This is the band's moment for me because my first title belt. You know in this come every single day in my mind and helped me to one stand. Where I'm going, you know because when I fight with I want to stay into how much I have a responsibility above sport Abo-. Martial Arts in Bomani Mike Council Boma people. Okay. Just a couple more things and then I'll let you go I promise. I. Know You're hungry I, know I respected the George fight is that the one that you wish you had in the UFC's that the one fight that you wish you could have had. Wow when people ask me about Georgian pay just say I respect George a luck because George. Is Amazing fight is Make. The huge store inside this war in I respect in. I loved jerk because George chain a lot. This sport you know every single fight right now copied. McGregor East Ohio in the news in ration-. Tank about Homework George is important for this. You. Know How much George? Chain this or Was it ever close with the connor fight when him connor was trying to get the book versus him was that ever discussed ever brought to your attention was that ever a thing? Well. I think corner is is a good fighter is is a very lucky because connor is so smart but wonder have the weight for fight for different guys inside the you see about site in no boxing. MMA you know and. I respect because connery's so smart in using the the the Taliban the corner has for make the good in special juice. For Self, you know and I respect this. Okay. So so in conclusion you return on Saturday forty five what a story back fighting in Las Vegas in a small venue like you fought Chris Lebron you remember that when you were dancing, it was amazing what a moment was a and now you're back but maybe the doors opened this it would it be unfair to call this a retirement fight this is maybe the last one in UFC but there's there's a future out there potentially. Absolutely, because I believe in the situation is Is Very very important. Let me tell you something very important to me because I think the fighters Never, talking about that but. When you come inside you see you sign a contract. You completely. Okay about everything in the concert you know. And when did this happen? Why you can do working in, do your best. And Everything, in the paper is because you sign and I have nothing for talking about Dana I don't have not do for talking about you see. I have my contract I sign in I, do my best I work in I do my part because I'm professional. And of course, maybe I don't fight anymore in seal. Of course, they'd go fight outside why? Because the people can't stop My Jaw. That snow make sense and this is not the less fighting seat. Okay. But this is the less fighting of salesforce course I, go fight and. In the other vein no, I don't know but. Right now is the my last fight uc I thought you a two left. So you only have one left and UFC. You know in a contract I have a two sites. So, how could it be the last? What if they say you knock out your Idaho and ten seconds they said, we want you back for more. Maybe I. Don't know. Let's go see because my fault is right now is the one thing. Go inside the cage. Best. You know after debt I don't know. All right, we'll leave it at that. Anderson. Thank you so much what an honor it's always such an honor to talk to my friend and to cover your career over the years my friend I need to say thank you. Thank you because people need you the more people saying you in the true because you know how much sports stuff behind the scenes and I try to do my best every day and I never scared for top the the true because true is important for my fans and for my legacy. All right and now say hello to the man who holds the second most wins in UFC welterweight division history right behind the Great George saint-pierre. It's that man seventeen wins one, hundred, seventy pounds for Neil Magny kind enough to join us today on the program Neil. How are you? I'm doing great. How are you doing I'm doing really well, and it's been a really interesting time for you and I'm happy that we get to talk about it because you know there's been a lot of talk about who's next for Shemaya of this locomotive. If you will this rising star at one, seventy, one, eighty, five in the US seeing, they were trying to find him at opponent for December nineteenth their. Last show of the year and there was all kinds of talk and they wanted to get him on the last car of the year all this stuff and it seemed like they had a lot of trouble finding an opponent and it seemed at least two menial that there was someone sitting in the front of the class raising his hand saying, pick me pick me and the teacher was just looking around and saying like, Hey, is there anyone out there and you just could not get anyone to take notice of you raising your hand? Is that what happened here because it really did seem like you're ready to go on December nineteenth? Yeah. I. Mean that's exactly what it feels like I mean. I was hearing left and right to dismantle is having a hard time finding flight and I stepped up over and over and over again say knows winning a fight this man Ivan cigarettes step further in every single time that there was an article or there was opposed. Interview or or video whatever it may be that involved him again opponent I take a step further through my name and a there's wall so like. Not just making notes. Of making known him is manager and Defense as well. And it was pretty frustrating. Didn't get that matchup. It was even more frustrating at Winson the on Edwards. Because by being honest like. Kuzma defy wasn't fight that exciting the I. Mean The guy was on yesterday behind him. He's on three five win streak. He's undefeated debt. Is Guy just myself against but in reality of it, I personally do not think he deserved a top ten top fifteen opponent. But because of lack of activity, the welterweight division ISOS opportunities to one, keep busy to go out there in a bigger name for myself, and that's what was even entertain the idea finding. And so ultimately, why didn't you get it? I have no idea. There was a done deal I. Literally got my Mandarin Thursday news I hate. Done we should fight. We're good to go on and the next day at leave sparring out there like making adjustments and figuring out who might trading partners and that kind of thing on midday just give for for camp four COSMA and we hope from the gym. I started getting notifications that he's fighting me on Edwards. I'm discretion mayhem that weight wet like. How did that come about? Like like as far as I knew, Leon editors was willing to find a guy that was it ranked below number five. And so much he was. A guy who was rented all. So the fact that fight even came about I was just dumped on US blown away by that and did you get an explanation like did you then call your management say okay like what happened? How did we go from having to not having it? On No, not at all the only thing I can possibly think of that caused by now the go through is seemed does a better match form. To my own horn and say that. Finding a guy's a better deal than finding number three guy. But I'm pretty sure his seen might have thought that Leon Etheridge's the the easier fight for him He mashed better down ever. What against may did they say that to you team or is just something that you're thinking on this is some of them big given the fact that like. He was willing to entertain fighting everyone else. But me I think that that's pretty obvious. This point that his team in himself bleed that the easier mattress for him was was the on Edwards I mean in my opinion, it's no brainer but. I think the person putting I mean how much more than say fight this man from the step up and take the fight. So how do you internalize that like is this like a moral victory for you? Disappointing me here I am going into on November I still don't have a life. So I also feel kind defeated those situation I mean if it wasn comes out and give me somebody me Mike. Yes. Give me one way you mean any of these guys that are rank and have. Given opportunity out there and and showcase my skillset. So for me even though I'd like to come back and realize that such a tough mattress guy that they chose someone else or meets the fight. It is special needs the sidelines Washington's play out without having to fight for myself. So I think there might be something to what you said. Also I'm just curious about this. Obviously, the UFC has a lot invested in right they. They clearly think that he's a great fighter, a top draw they're promoting him in what do think it's possible that the UFC thought that this was a bad match as well, and that's why like I. said they were the teacher of the front of the classroom you're raising your hand and they're not picking you. And I mean when Dana White himself had interview with a Brett Oklahoma and he said Hey I'll give pro words do your mind is the only guy was to step up and fight this guy I thought that was not uncommon for me. I thought that statement right there wasn't give me to fight. So for this fight still get passed over gift giving someone else I was a senior scratch, my head like dude, what else do I need to do in order to get a fighting a guy with some some rank behind were guys some hype behind main legit thought was a done deal and I was ready to go so. That was a bit of a bummer not getting that. So I actually I agree with you I think that this is a moral victory and I think there's a party they say like, Hey, they didn't want him to me because they thought his of but in another way, is it almost symbolic of your career where it just kind of feels like you get looked over sometimes you're not the loudest guy in the room you don't get the shine you don't get the hype and I hear they went and tried to find someone else to fight him. And that's honestly that's the part where where is getting rushing isn't past I never called our single person in my face I. I was always like ready and willing to fight whomever to UC through my way whenever tried to pick my shots and every try to pick my opponents never tried to any of that. And in more recent years or or interviews with people, I was curse ice for criticized for not being a guy does vocal guide that was. Asking for specific opponents not being a guy that was doing out there demanding certain vice. So like here's my shot here's my shot Sushi Sushmita shot. And Ask for fight that that I want to fight that I'd go out there in really impressed the fans with. I did that and he started getting a lot of traction mean are people replace some out this past matchup between comes out tonight. legit thought that I had been to work the dirty work as far as someone out to make this happen. So, do all that and get to the point that didn't white himself said, he believes that. I should get credit for this fight and still had all through L. Just like men do like, what does the guy to do here I if you step in fight, anyone company throws at you. Looked over. You. Look over. So this white, what do I possibly do Soglo out there and and get the vice that I want. And I know he's sort of asked this before but just to be clear since they've booked the Leon fight has Dana called your anyone from the UFC called you or your management said, this is the specific reason why we didn't go with Neil? No no specific reasons whatsoever about this fight and it's And that's the point. That's. A bit frustrating for me I mean at the end of day understand that it is a business NAPA, make the best business move for for them. So that part is understandable but in my mind I just can't figure out what the Reasoning behind making this particular fight was mean especially got Agni on Edwards mean in my personal opinion either lately on Edwards has done enough to himself atop shot. But because of where he's at rankings. He's he kind of held out on fighting anyone he kind of felt entitled to atop viable opponent diagnostic dollar or a or codes in or even himself or even even call birds at one point. So. In my I thought he deserved that but the guy did enough to actually earn fighting is any one of those guys. And I kinda backed him as far as. Putting his foot down and demanding a top five opponent. So for him to. Kind of hold out for type of opponent not. An unranked guy and the center scratching my head like wait what is the? What is a process yearly? What are you trying to accomplish by beating the owner Taoism hype behind with this white like it even passed over being ranked is eight by win streak. What is beating the guy that comes out going to do for you at this point I just that part right there's blew my mind. I. Thought that we've Leon being holed up in the top of division wasn't fight they use the entertainer consider whatsoever. So seventeen in a row. Now for you the I mean there's a very, you are going to surpass GSP, and yet You haven't had a chance to fight for the belt yet. You're not like one of the top draws one seventy what you have to do to take that next step what needs to happen on an am by the way, it should be clear not seventeen in a row seventeen at one seventy secondly, I said in a row that would be incredible but just May. Yeah definitely, at this point, my career is really step up and be more vocal in demand what I want I mean. Not just go out there win Feis, but like decisively, win fights. The bobby longer fight going out there and just complete down in a guy who was one of the most feared men and wealthier division. I'd say those are the kind of fights to keep. Going out there, put it on for fans pretty of obscene and demanding my place for finding for titles so. I'm not above fighting every single person numbers seven through one of my town shot. But I feel I go out there making a statement every single flight and being more vocal is way to notify title. Even with this way played out. I. Realized that. I won't put myself in the same boat as the Edwards I don't want to be guided on eight by windstream still not buying for for a title. So it means having to a little bit of dirty work as far as calling out opponents and demand. I want out of my career and for my career umbrella win to do that at the end of the day cloths get fed. I love this is does this new because I know in the past said, you don't like to do this sort of thing. You don't like to call people out and be the squeaky wheel. My partner Shale has been critical of you and has tried to give you advice. Have you seen any of these clubs from jail and have you taken them to heart? Yeah. Absolutely me not when channel made his. Is a couple of weeks ago by being interesting at bursts of like dude who's this? WHO's screw him? Interesting. Like who's he think he is but at the end of the day when cooler heads prevail as. He's onto something here. I like I said I have seventeen wins in into your see we division to second behind gs we. Data. Itself should be slogan of more often, but it's not and if is now being spoken more out than it's not anyone else's thought as my phone. So I'll meet to go out there be more Volvo need to go out there demand a lot more to my career because because. At the end of day no one's GonNa. Give me the anti go out there and take it so About what I want to go out there, make make sure it happens to me I love I is part of your mission. Now I would imagine you're so close you WANNA, get to number twenty, one, right you WANNA have the most wins at one seventy, absolutely Amina I want to go down in the history books for DNC. I. Mean I'm very close to do that right now I mean I wanted to guys to have five wins in calendar year already I want to surpass With the total number wins in Wellesley, division and I WANNA retire being a champion as well. So at this point. I'm willing to do all the Derek said in order to make that happen if he's calling out left and right I'm willing to do that and ready to do that. and. By the way if. Gets by Leon, is that still fight that you'd like? Oh, absolutely. Just, by Leon, him even more sense at this point by Leon Edwards who be ranked opponent. He won't be guided guys just kind of tossing out as being hype train who actually have. Secured a spot in the top division. So I will fight even more now I mean in my mind at the late you spared by giving the fight just because I would I two of doing that man indicate if I got that fight likely on every pretty much say them from that so Now makes it pass the on Edwards absolute to get that fight against them to go out there and really show the guys how tough the welter division is and why I deserved fight for a title. Do you think he's a hype job or do you think he's for real? So I give her taking me at this. At this point, he hasn't been anyone in UNC who's worth mentioning. To get as much credit as to have fight a top-five guy but if he gets past. Absolute, guys, real deal I mean he's a real task is real threatening division. I, absolutely, when piece of that and by the way, just that comment before like the things that you've done to him indicates these aren't the typical things at Lea-. Excuse me. Neil Magny has said in the past like that is a big statement there. What would you have done to had? I. Leave for guys that bricks guys you guys not want to be an engaging more. This guy is riding the train of being a guy who wants to fight everyone to fight often. I may questioned whether or not. They want to go out there and do it again I literally break guys in the cage and that's done the cosmic. Gets it a resist like men anymore maybe just go to the mid way. These guys are lot slower probably is guys are lot easier to keep up with I. Don't want any part of as well as we division were because Neil, magny? That's the kind of fight that our brought to cosmic. Off the top of your head. Highest ranked guy. fought. Who would it. Be. So guys like Heck Lamari guys like. Jim Remember like what they were like, what number the Number was top ten when I fought him. Chelsea Gas Them I. Was top-five. Guests them was by one point Kim remember who was when we thought he was top five or surely out there but I remember you saw five as well. The reason I asked this was like. Here's a guy who's not even ranked and he's getting number three. had. Does that sit with you? It doesn't feel good. Does not good at all especially when the number three guy was one of the guys that was the hold up at the top of the division. I'm sinner trying to figure out like Amanpour, Leon, like what is you have to fight for a title and here he is fighting a guy who's not ranked well. I in. His Defense I. Hope this Zipper. My hope he goes out there and he puts on maisy performance and this is win number nine from he does eventually todd with that point but. In my mind, I can understand why hold off the top of the division and turn around and fight an unranked guy I just can't see how that plays out for him. fiber title enter to me that's bus rating because I'm like, why hold up the top of the division? Why hold up the number eight guy get a chance the number three guy in order to fight unranked guy go out there and like. Risk, at all for for what you want, put it online and try to get that topic shot I mean. Even if you're getting overload, let us keep being consistent. You put it out there and broomsticks such a huge step back in my. I'm just trying to figure out why he would would do such thing but. I'm not I. Don't GonNa come across the bidders. All I do both these is gonNA. Have a great fine to. Win I look forward to find either one of them but. It is a decision that doesn't sit well with me I don't understand thought process behind it. Who Do you think wins? On my gut would tell me on Edwards I mean with experience he has in UNC against cobber opponents, Miguel Golden Edwards, but at today. Cosmic. Is tested as well. So it's definitely interesting to see how that will play out. Have they told you okay. We're not giving you the the Hud fight, but you're gonna find someone else by the end of the year. You'll get one more fight in this year you haven't even been told that. Shelby as working on something I mean he should have somebody from you in the next couple of days here but other net every haven't gotten a clear. Picture of what the rest of your looks like for it is this. Sitting on a shelf a dispatch Mejia's doesn't. It doesn't sit well with me. I mean it's. It's not the fights that take away time communicate. It's the self that leads upset by me so far my career I missed a added nine month window where MS competition had a year sixty month window right misconduct competition. Both these things out of my control both these are things that are outside of actual UFC event So those things lingering over my head on the last thing I, WanNa do is sit on his show happy and not going out there and competing because at the end of the day, I'll miss that the most that anything else. What's what's the message to Would you want to say to the guy? Did I aside from one has actually wish wishing basle but she goes out there performs wall is up to the high it makes it that much more would I get be the guy to go out there and took that away from him okay. I thought maybe Taylor you WanNa make him humble. Implies never. Wanted now up that full. Full energy when when it comes on the COSMO wanted to be on highest force house won't be as competent as possible fight against your I. Want to be a guy that six away. So by all means go out there and perform owning the Edwards have yet to win. Best. Loved See let's make this happening future woman much respect for for being that kid in the front of the class raising your hand I mean it felt you were doing it for like three weeks there and it's just A. Strange thing that they they couldn't. You know they can pick you for whatever reason they ended up picking Leon, and that's obviously a big fight. But I, think you gained a lot of street cred right I. Think the fans recognize that feel you gain that street credit from the community absolutely indefensible and rice and amendments as bs new should have got that fight Neil magnets ready to step up they dug new Bagley and everything else like that. So the fact that the the fans and all my peers are recognizing that. I was the guy irritate that fight and it was on a cosme on his team to take the fight and they chose to go Edwards on. I'll take this distri credit lease do best that. Appreciate the time as always neil good luck getting that that final fight in before the end of the year and congrats on the win over Robbie Law the great performance, another great performance for you and I hope that in twenty twenty one, you will get those big fights that you are looking for. Absolutely so much. Now let's say hello to the band who was victorious this past Saturday at U C two, fifty, four huge win for Robert Whitaker over Jared Kenan near and he's kind enough to join us now with his familiar gaming headphones that usually loves to wear. But he's back in a hotel. You're back to quarantining right? Robert I. Am I am I'm back. Same deal fourteen days. Yep. Two weeks two weeks of gotten used to it. At this point if I was just he'd I know. So know I was thinking about that because you you had the fun July you fight till. You have to do this again right? You have to go through the whole quarantine process then you go back out there. Very the American fighters I saw Michael Chandler earlier today like he's at the park running like they don't have to go through this did this factor into your decision making as to whether or not? You wanted to take another fight in the midst of all of this because you have to be away from your family again gave. Definitely thought about and I thought about about the drags and the drains and how that would play on me but it's just it's just part of the GIG run. It's something yesterday. So you just you cannot leave your room for fourteen days. Right fourteen days. So I saw I saw the guys in New Zealand. There are lots take a walk outside you can't even do that. No. I I'm very fortunate. I have a balcony so I can I can sit out there but now I'm not gonNA leave it all. And what do you do for exercise or would you not even exercise after like that anyway exercise. The shelf next year. That's. That's next problem. Okay. I saw you eat. What were you eating yesterday? So you eating a hamburger Morning. They grow. Okay and staple staple. Diet is that from a certain spot or did you make it yourself now? Definitely the. Cafe. Downstairs, you can order food from downstairs one ounce so very fortunate in that regard. Okay. So trip number one to fight island versus trip number two both victories for you. So a great experience, but which which experience was better which one did you? More, honestly. Honestly the the first trip. was fresh also those. More things to do it was exciting like the new things you sound sought. It was cool. But the second trip whilst got bored quicker, it felt like the whole trip as a hallway pasta interesting and were you there for the same amount of time the exact same mentor had climatize and get used to the statement patents because the time we fought was again. So right it's always changing. For you mentally though was the second time maybe a little more relaxed in the first time because this time you're coming off a win as opposed to come laws and everything that you had been through leading up to the fight feel different. Yeah certainly the. self-imposed pressures weren't there as much. Coming off a big lobster easy. The First Army was. There's a lot of pressure those self-imposed pressure way I felt like I had to come back and you want to be that guy who lost consecutively after losing his belt and then that you know you think about these things. So this time you feel more relaxed. Idea I felt much more relaxed. What did you feel or how did you feel I should say about the fight overall like the entire body of work the three round fight the performances you had. You know I'm pretty I'm quite happy with it. In place we maintain worker game plan from the members. The first time to the moment we we sit back into Dhabi and we diligently worked on this game plan and I feel that I executed the game plan to to the best degree in and we we had a great result because what was the game plan? Just be patient snapping from the outside play into his hands and just just use my speed it to my advantage is use the wrestling wanted apiece and just take the fought wherever I want. See, I thought you on all three rounds. Obviously, the third round was a little close. And I don't remember if they gave him the first round at least one of the judges at the end of the fight. How did you think it was going to be scored? Other vote for sure I had it in the bag. because. I feel I did significant damage in the third round with the head kick in the knock. So I thought you on always very comfortable with with my with my performance in an understanding that I had taken the scorecards. Now, there was a train of thought out there that I that I saw that said, if it went five rounds of foods of five round main event that the tide was starting to turn. Did you. would. You say that he was starting to pick up steam or gain momentum or did he hurt you at all towards the end of the fight? What do you say to those people? What what five were they watching? I guess. He honestly, he landed one show in the third round, which wasn't even the knocked down right. It was just one good shot, but I did not him down. I almost took his head off. He's a tough guy a tough, but you can see from the start of the fight to the finish the damage that was accumulating on his face was getting worse and worse and worse and. I don't think it would have been better if our grams if anything probably being was but. That's a different fight that something that didn't happen. He said that he broke his arm I believe very early in the fight I think he said that a kick is what led to it. Could you sensed that his arm was broken that he was down a weapon? No I couldn't send said he's almost broken but. A new foot was so That's. So I I saw that head kick the entire fight but are just. After I heard it in the first round I could not throw throw it a few times off of that and the pain that I got bring the foot back was just so much. I almost started limping like the file was I couldn't throw it until I. Just I just avoided throwing it and then. You know. A full set out in the third round and. Wow and so is it okay now? Yeah lots. It's. So I haven't really gotten to get my buddy checked when when they've oscillation say the two weeks should be enough time to see what's really out. Okay and afterwards I saw a photo of you guys together I love this sort of thing. It's always very nice and you guys even exchange some words in the cage. What did you guys say to each other? I thought that he's just he's a he's a role model for the smaller. Docks. Himself I think he's very honorable and respectful, and that's the way it should be I think that's how far should be martial arts as a whole. A Lotta. Respect for him as an athlete as a fighter and. Yeah Good to it's good to have like A. Kinship there with with with fathers. because. He's a fresh face because you already in Izzy was kind of you know pumping them up in shuttle I, respect towards him. Did you feel like everyone was rooting for him to win? This was a setup to to build him off of your name. My. I'll. Say My career. They have literally done that with everybody vote night. Everybody fought. It's an next biggest thing the biggest monster, the next guided. Me always ended up to some reason. But. Other mind. I like hiding in plain sight. You don't. You don't get offended by this. Oh, come on. Where's my respect? Now. I'd I to just. I have nothing to prove I know who I am and the people that. Follow. And they even you know what? Even with everybody's speaking and saying things like that. Trying to undercut my my value, they know everybody against knows they know on in unreal I'm. Dangerous otherwise. They just try and take take take everything from him. They can't. So. It's an interesting thing because what see I mean? You could make case the comeback fighter of the year you know you have the year that you had last year you come back you fight twice that's notable. The fact that you fought twice in the span of three months right considering all the bad luck that you had as champion and Dana. White afterwards said you don't very appealing to run a back between UNLV but correct me if I'm wrong ROB I. Don't feel like you want the title fight I feel life is better for you without the title you successful you there on that it was like a weird time for you I don't feel and I want to make this very clear I. Know You would it and I, know you know in your heart you feel your heart beat as he but I don't feel you're banging the drum because like life is just a little simpler without all that. Am I wrong? I. It's it's the thing is like it's not. It will happen is not something that I need to chase because it's going to happen like and that's why after I, lost the. Roaring that I wanted to remastered way because I knew that if I just beat the guys put in front of me, then I'll get there eventually I want to run that back with these young want that fight but I'm no I'm not going anywhere. You know he's doing some things honestly. My biggest concern is what I'm doing at the end of the year. It's it's it's just enjoying this this break in my money. When you charge, you know part of the family that's coming along that that that's the biggest thing for me right now and then afterwards. Like I'll take that fought for short. And when is your child expected to come January January. Okay. So you're you're not even think of anything until that happens exactly exactly because. Lucky said. The. The title and that that whole period of so we'd with injuries and illnesses, and then just the toddler itself and. That that whole period which is. A bit of a mess. So. I feel like I need a really good place now and I and I understand. Just who I am and how I'm doing things. So let me ask you this because the the sense that I'm getting and I know you're not too caught up in this, but you're right in the mix of it all whether you like it or not. Right because of how good you've looked in your last two fights. The sense that I'm getting is is he wants to move up to a five to fight Yom block to get that title. How would you feel if he does that? As Fun that's for me because. I. Honestly I. Don't want to fight until March next year anyway. Okay. So If, the temoins. Fought him and they come back the mate. Okay. So now let me ask you this. Let's say he goes up he goes up in February or January probably not January because that's when connors fighting bullets he goes up in February or even March, and then you know he'll need some time probably to come back down and rest. They say to you hey, why don't you fight Jack Hermansson if he wins against until or some other contender? Would you do that? Like are you open to just continuing your career and if the chips fall in your favor great, it's not something you're gonNa Chase it's. It's it's hard to say, I'm really not thinking about it too much because honestly I'm so many. In what's happening in south I feel like I've owned that fight that total that taught of I've earned that. With my back toback. Defense of number one really gatekeeper. For the title the twice I feel like owned that ripe to have that Short but. Hell the chips forward. You wouldn't like how the Tomlin's work. It's anybody's guess at this point. How do you think he would do if you went up to two five and fight young? It's hard to say it's hard to say Yang like a really good. About. Is He's pretty good man. He's he's pretty good. I'll give him that it's it is hard as I think I think he could be competitive for show. is there any and maybe you don't care about any of this but I just I feel remiss if I don't ask you know was some talk of him moving up to fight John Jones, and now John is gone. Now he moves up the Fight Yon. Do think the timing is a little funny. Can. Say. I don't know I don't. I honestly, I don't try to concern myself with everybody's mechanisms in the little ploys and schemes and. I just see you've been speaking about it for what ten seconds and I'm already stressed out. You host the podcast. This is part of your world. You're you're you're very much entrenched in this used to. Happen no more podcast. I took a step to the left just because. I wanted to focus on just what I'm doing, which is just the combat. My kids like I just wanted to I needed to declutter if you would. Slow everything down. Well, have you had a chance you know maybe now you're you're in isolation this time last year, right? Like what a difference a year makes for you this time last year you're off the is you fight you lost your belt the the story as you told the paper there in in Australia around Christmas time you're doing the sprints and you're like, I, need a break what a difference I would now you're expecting another child you seem to be in a great place. You took that break mentally you're able to find love and the fire again for the sport isn't an amazing how far you've come in a year. It's ridiculous. It is. On a C. I think that's how it's always been. It's like you struggle and you grind hustle and then something switches over in your really good. But then it's us the fall apart in an easily switches again and. I'm just I'm just at that point You know I've learnt from my loss of learnt from from getting knocked down. And I'm just wiser I'm smarter I'm more confident in my decisions I remember talking to you before the Yoel Romero fight in Chicago. So this was a June of two, thousand, eighteen and I remember speaking to you and you you you you I remember this vividly you're like, I. Don't really care about the belt like the belt doesn't mean to me what it means other people and things of that nature and youth stay true to that response throughout even after. You know the the fight against Izzy and so I'm just wondering if you never. Fight for the belt again or win the belt again will it even bother you that much is this something? That's GONNA eat at you or are you good content now but you say I will fight for the built again is inevitable. I just don't worry about it because it's inevitable. And that's that's been my whole mentality. It's not a mentality on charter flights in the title is in one over reluctance. It's not one like, Oh, don't want have to foster built now it's it's more that I will fight about just. Is Natural I don't have to worry about it because I'm just GonNa, keep beating whoever they put in front of me and eventually I'm going to be the only one standing at the top. That's that's a simple as it is. So just curious. I'm fascinated by your stance on this if the bill doesn't really mean that much to you other than to say you're the best. Why the desire to even like why am I? Know? You're saying you know you're not stressing about it but. Who needs that? Because it brought like weird things to your life bad luck may like who just Like why even think about the belt at all in any respect not not not strive for it or even dream like stay as far away as possible from it I think life is so good for you without the bell look. As. Yeah you see the thing is it's not. The belt that I want but I do need. Like I, do want to beat everybody I need to be the one of the talk on need to be the guy sitting in the throne. That's that is a that's just part of WHO I am. That's just part of being a fighter I. Don't I don't think there's a fodder out there. That doesn't have that desire to be the one standing on top of the heap and. You know that I guess you could say is the belt so it's like. I guess. Everyone's chasing the same goal just in a different light. Did you sit around and watch a FAB afterwards or did you go back to your room? The I did I, did I did what? What what were you thinking when you someone like that and then the emotion afterwards him retiring He's just he's afraid he's any. Good. Good. Gosh he saw good. He's so good. He made one of the best news in the world look. Not like one of the best in the world insists. Phenomenon. I'll tell you right now I would wanna take a fight with. A much bigger than he is. He's a scary dude and. His show of emotion I think was expected. You know it it. It's just it's an emotional thing especially because of everything that he's had to go through to get to where years and then the fact that he's hanging out the gloves you know he's was was it was touching It was fun to watch enjoy. What do you do like today like what do you do in your room all by yourself just play video games all day like how do you pass the time? It must be so bored all day video games and then I substituted with trying to learn the guitar still. which let me tell you I haven't gotten any better since last isolated. You bring it with you at least a year because my wife trucks and things of the hotel. So I have some things from it's not nice and what are we playing? Right, now playing dumpster. Don't starve. That's a game. It's a funny game. Market around with that at the moment and On sleep I, I always made isolated. I. Quite enjoyed he like many good spot ubereats. I Have Games I have the guitar like. I just I just missed my kids. But you know. Well you'll see them soon enough enjoy your time in isolation. Joy Your time at home and congratulations in early. Good luck to you and your family on the the birth in January and enjoy Christmas a a stress free Christmas for the first time in a while for you and the rest of your family. So enjoyed and congrats on the win as well. Thank you so much noise a pleasure to speak with you. All right. So like I said a great lineup of interviews. I hope you grew me I don't think Anderson has done. I hope you agree with me Neil Magny is very fired up and feels disrespected I love everything that he had to say about the whole situation and we could probably thank chill for that and great stuff as always from the always humble. Robert Lineker. Big Big weekend of anime coming up though Thursday. There's a massive bell tour card probably be best fight that Bill Tours put on in twenty twenty. Yes it's been a weird year. But this is a phenomenal fight. You have Douglas Lima moving up from one seventy, the welterweight champion in bellcore moving from one seventy to go up to one eighty five to fight Giga Masasi the legend former beltway midway champion for the vacant middleweight title. Of course, the title was vacated after fell about a junior had to retire after he had a brain issue up a scan that we've seen this story before when Roy McDonald move up to fight gay guard didn't go well for him change. The course of his career will see how Douglas Lima does. I don't know about it. He's been on a roll massage big fought to a five in any event. Great fight. It goes down on Thursday night at the Mohegan Sun actually have an interview, with Gig, up right now on the ESPN MMA youtube channel check that out as well, and also on that channel, we've got a great taste between two legends in the world of ball, Carlos Correa, the fifteen al rookie of the year going up against the two thousand fifteen al Mvp Josh Donaldson in a debate. Over who is the best fighter in the world today an past. Career says Habib Donaldson says John Jones it's very fun. These guys know their stuff they came with notes. They were that prepared a lot of people thought career Juan. It was a very fun back and forth you could check that out right now on the ESPN MMA youtube channels while we are doing work, there's CFC this weekend as well. One Championship this weekend they come back LFA is back in action, and then of course, on Saturday we have the big card on Halloween headlined by Anderson Silva vs Your Hall prelims start at four PM eastern time on ESPN plus main card seven pm eastern time in what could be. Anderson Silva's last five big fight for your Iot Hall and some other notable names on the card as well. Andre, feely versus Bryce Mitchell who is getting his cammo shorts for the first time. That's a great fight. I like that fight a lot of got the return of Kevin Holland Mois Green. Against Greg Hardy Bobby Green against chugging moistens. The undercard, some names that are like on the Undercard, Alexander Hernandez always great to watch him in action a Jack Marksman Dustin. Jacoby formerly now of the contender series and also glory kickboxing on the card as well. Miles John. So top to bottom some names to look out for prelims Four PM Eastern Maine Card Seven PM Eastern as well. All right. 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Don't Let Me Do This Again

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Don't Let Me Do This Again

"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production available on spotify apple. Podcasts podcast one dot com in anywhere else you podcasts. You're welcome is brought to you for free today by our friends. At Bet online the casinos in Vegas may be closed but the bet online casino never closes with hundreds of games every day and all sorts of events way drawn. Let them bring the action to you. Open twenty four hours a day all online. Get in the mix at bet online dot. Ag Use the Promo Code. Podcast one for your fifty percent. Welcome bonus bet online your online sportsbook experts and the exclusive partner of podcast one sports net as bidden running these streets for years and he still he added so is fear undisputed never Lao stew row bodies hit the ground wind. Bad Guy comes to town. Larrikin gangs disbanded. You'll be crying for your mama by the tiny's through you when you see the American Gangsta. What's happening guys happy Friday? And thank you for joining another special episode of. You're welcome. And who's got an update on the Tony Ferguson? A way in situation which is going to be going down in a matter of minutes definitely within a matter of hours so to remind you guys. Were this left off when to forty nine gets canceled. Tony Challenges Justin publicly or at least questions. Justin publicly to know of Justin's going to make weight which was Tony's way of leading the world on the fact that he is still going to make weight. So then Tony doesn't expanded interview. He put that out on social media so he's got one hundred sixty characters or less so somebody calls them up. Because hey what's this all about? You wait and Tony Laboratory said Yeah. This is all mental this. This is a mental thing for me. I'm personalized but I'm I'm going through with the task. I am seeing through my part which was really cool but the reason I'm asking if anybody has an update is because when Tony made those statements. It was absent of the knowledge that he later gained and has at this present time that that fight is going to happen. It's just going to happen on. May ninth so I am sincerely asking. Is he still planning to make way just to have to make wait two weeks later? Antonis defense just because he said he would do something if he did not have the extra information that he has. Now which is hey. You'RE GONNA have to do this thing. Same thing on May ninth. He promised away. And you're still going to give away in which is moving the date of the way in Tony. It would definitely be off the hook but it does. I'm still curious if he's going to do it. Because it has two schools of thought which actually brings me to another question as opposed to me offering my opinion on the conclusion. Here's the question. Are you better to make wait two weeks prior to having to make weight? I mean if you had the ability of a fighter particularly in the era that we're in right now. How many fighters are having a hard time getting down to way? Are you better off to have? What would be called a test cut when George saint-pierre thought about going down to one hundred and fifty five pounds before he ever made this public? He did eight test cut. No George likes to live his life. In a level of discipline that is very hard to relate to on the first of every month of the fifth of every month. He consumes nothing but water. He doesn't water diet five days every month. Just because I can remember back to a team mate of mine. The late great. Evan Tanner and Evan. Tanner was fighting at two hundred and five pounds. And then had this big idea go down to one. Eighty five turned out. The idea worked out because he became the champion of the world but he was going through a test cut and he was. GonNa do this in one weekend. He was gonNA spend from Friday night to Sunday night pulling water out of his body and seen how he would feel he then even had a mathematical conversion even though he might not make one eighty five on the test gut. He could find out how much you could lose in water. And that will tell him how much he needed to lose in mass to equate to one eighty five and then he wanted to judge how he felt so on. Sunday night when he completes the tense. I have to go in and fight him. Were sparring three rounds. Make it look like a fight on Monday because he really wanted to know. I can't do it what's IT GONNA take to do it. How quickly can I do it? And Can I perform within twenty four hours. Now I can't really relate to that to to me that was more of just something. He wanted to learn more of an experience. That's as far as my mind can even conceive that to go in pull water out in dehydrate for no reason other than experimental. I'll just take the risk. I'm speaking for all jail. I'll I'll just take the risk. I don't know how I'm GonNa feel on Saturday with the match comes around. I'll let you know on Sunday how it worked out and maybe make some changes for the next one. I'm not doing one just because but there's still a question here. Let's just say Tony doesn't let's just say he does. And guys. Unless you have clarity out there now you have to admit for me. It's a fifty percent chance he does just because he's just because he's Tony so let's say he does does that. Give him an advantage to be down to wait spin for five days relaxed. Maybe just a little bit. Keep your eye on it. No you're within striking distance but remove that stress at least a big part of that stress. You would remove that stretch. I will tell you right now. There is a major. What if it goes through your mind all sorts of levels and your body can play some very weird tricks. I mean I'm telling you to cut way totally never thing. If you don't have to wait I don't know of anyone who ever has to you using yourself even as a Guinea pig in this. Have you ever cut wait if you didn't have to now? I'm not talking about losing weight. I'm not talking about dieting. I'm not talking about consuming less calories than you burn. What I'm talking about is cutting weight and that's where the dehydration part comes in. That's where the suffering comes in. Losing weight physically is not hard. Fasting physically is not hard mentally. It's it's very difficult but if you WANNA fast on your button to it he watch. Tv Land Bet all day. Just don't eat anything. I mean physically. It's not that hard but mentally you. You will ask yourself as an athlete all the time. Can I do this? What's it going to take to do this in your body? Is you start to learn. Your body will do very bizarre. Thanks and a human being in belief does not have control of their body until they're twenty five years old. You can grow inches. You can gain weight then you deal with water retention that comes by something as easy as getting on a flight if the flight is too long in your certain elevations and you've got retention than you land. You got three days to get rid of the retention plus everything I'm just offer few. There's a lot of moving parts and I would like an answer to the question. It's going to be opinion based because I don't know that any of us are ever going to do it but opinion based would Tony Habit advantage or any other athlete. Would they habit advantage by making wait two weeks in advance? Shaquille O'Neal who has been a big supporter of anime. Not just verbally with some of the media that he gets but he shows up to the events he brings attention. He is a member of the American top team of practices himself so Shaquille O'Neal came out and it was very cool and he credited three World Championships Three NBA rings to the sport of Ma and the basic premise. That shack was laying. Out is basketball is difficult basketball. Takes time it takes focus. It takes conditioning but when I was able to go into MMA when it was time to compete in basketball I was actually going down a notch. Mma training was much harder much more demanding required much more focused more intensity more involvement. So when I do that in the off season and then I went to Bask. I actually found that I was going. I was more than prepared to go into a basketball game now. That was a very cool thing for him to say for him to put him over with the success he's had in. His sport was a very cool thing to say but he makes a very fair point. If you can ever find something harder there is a lot of coaches out there. Who will really encourage their best football players to make sure they go out for wrestling. And it's not about getting scholarships or even winning championships. It's about just getting that conditioning. We had a coach out here in Oregon Dave Solanki and this young man comes in from Colorado. He's a freshman going to be a freshman and Dave chalance coach. Lasky is this Ethan. Long is the athlete's name. Keep that name mine. Because you're going to hear them in the in the NFL either long comes in. He's going to be the school's quarterback quarterback school is supposed to win the state championship that year. Because there's a very good team freshman's going to go out head of the team. So Ethan Long Trusts Coach. Salafi with his strength and conditioning so when the football season ends and even wants to get his strength and condition and he goes to coach. Dave Coates Dana handsome. A pair of wrestling shoes says this is what you're going to get conditioning for the next ten weeks this is it being this room every day and he does. Ethan does now. Ethan goes on to have a ridiculous amount of success in wrestling but that was on accident. He was never in it for six. Didn't care about wrestler all. He trusted his coach. That was the coach said. Go do this turn out. Great side note even goes on and sets. All sorts of records gets recruited early side with Arizona State and now starts for them as a quarterback he will be drafted into the NFL. The point being though there is many examples that I could give you that. If you can go find something harder than what you really want to do. If you go find the best workout partners in your spore Vera High School Kid and you can go get college workouts any sport when you return to high school. It's a step down. You look at across that quarter that field all of a sudden that guys not as big strong guys who were just practicing just by example so when Shat comes out and he was cool enough to admit he found something more difficult than what he was actually competing in. You need to listen to him. Because he's laying out a mentality for training and for that can be very hard many people. I think would hold 'em combination of boxing and wrestling. If you will broad stroke but boxing recipe and two of the most taxing and trying sports you could possibly do. Nobody has success. And either with how the absolute level of commitment just because of the intensity of just because of the cardio issue so when you can buy a sport. Ma You are left with the question. What's harder what is it that if I WANNA have the same mental and physical benefit that Shaquille O'Neal talked about which led him to three world championships by his own words. What can I do the heart of the moment? I think that's a tough one but I do think there's an answer out there. I have my own opinion. I do not think. Mma is the ultimate athletic sport. I think the gymnastics is the ultimate sport. And if you took a George saint-pierre that's what he did to train to then go into now. That's one example in Georgia data for some different reasons. George like the strength the flexibility aspect of it more than he liked anything else. I will just offer for you for a suggestion. I'm open to hearing what anybody thinks. But before you tell me going to track and field or go. Run spreads are all fighters do that all fighters and that's the first thing they do in the morning they get up. Ch- vehicle put their miles in so it'd be very hard. I bring up track and field because I also respect the marathon runner. I think the marathon runner never gets the credit for how tough he is. When you're doing activity that you can stop anytime you want or you can finish because you elect to stop. Nobody's trying to stop you. Nobody will stop you only you against you. I really respect the marathon runner. I would just share for you so you don't use as an example. That athletes enlarge part our runners marathon. No but runners. Yes so what is left if you wanted to have the shack effect and you wanted to try this is find something that you deemed more difficult so then when you went into your competition it was less. You know Brian Stand Tim. Kennedy used to talk about this. Everybody in fighting was scared to fight. These guys were coolest can be. And they both separately had done interviews over time and if you read them. They said the same thing. Brian Foster comes to mind because remember. Brian Foster teammate of mine these guys were military heroes. But they weren't just in the military to qualify his hero. That means you saw active duty. So Tim Kennedy or Brian. Stan or Brian Foster would laugh at the idea of having to deal with the stresses of walking into a cage with a referee. In there. That can help you out anytime under the unified rules it just for their mentality and the things that they had to see. It was a step down. That's the mental side. I'm asking a question that I don't know the answer to asking. The question. Is there physically and activity that you could do so the MMA was easier with currently no basketball no hockey not even baseball guys. You might think there's nothing to bet on it and you know what you would be wrong. Our exclusive partner bet online still has hundreds of sporting events and games to wager on so let them bring Vegas to you missing the NFL. No problem that online has live daily. Madden NFL twenty simulations that you can get action on for all of our football fans out there. Following the upcoming draft stay tuned in through the end of this episode for Ross Tucker's expert draft analysis presented by Ben Online. Visit our good friends at bet online to take advantage the best bonuses in the business sign up today for a free account at bet online dot. Ag Use the Promo Code. Podcast one. That's podcast for a fifty percent. Welcome bonus bet online your online sportsbook experts and the exclusive partner of podcast one sports net. So I'm an argument right now with my Buddy Ryan. And here's what Ryan contents okay. Let's back up Sean. O'malley Sugar Sean comes out and says someday I will be USC champion. So this is what starts the topic. Private Conversation Ryan says to me. Well she'll win is too early to come out and declare that a guy is going to be the future champion and I was pondering the question and answer that when he comes on the back of it and it says because you have see very early identified that that was going to be conor McGregor and that put all sorts of pressures on Carter. Now by the time he finished that thought. I almost didn't have time to respond to the first question. That had to do with Sean o'malley because now I'm stuck on the fact that I don't think I don't think my Buddy Ryan is correct on that. I totally disagree that the UFC identified connor. Future champion the way. I interpreted what happened with connor whose career is is like a fine wine. His crew got so much better at time. Hold that thought. I do not believe that you have identified him as a champion I believe they identified him as a star and there is a major difference there and I was really right there in the mix when connor media began. We fought on the same card. I saw this was caught. Her second fight. I sat at the press conference and listen to this guy. I had met him his first fight. I didn't see it was undercard fight. I just didn't see it Kenny. Florian pulls me aside a one conversation since since Conor McGregor said no you have to watch these Michael. Bist being pulled me aside at a different conversation says the exact same thing Kenny. Hey you've seen this kid you gotta see him. He's absolutely amazing. I don't know who it was. I never took the time to go. Look him up. If a guy's a good fighter I'll hear him but I live in the space hadn't heard of him so we to a press conference together he's WanNa know I'm main eventing the show. We got people in the audience. There was some contest going around. Who can do the best conor McGregor Bowtie? I've been to a lot of press conferences. I've never seen a sign held up. It's not like a pro wrestling show where people are holding up a sign Randy Orton. Mary me it's not like that. There was signs all throughout the crowd. Irish signs and McGregor signs in Qatar for presidents. I I've never seen anything like it. I'm looking wait. Am I know I know about this guy to Kenny? Florian and Michael Bisbee were telling me about what the Hell's this guy got an audience where he wanted to know. Fight on an undercard. Okay so what I'm sharing for us. I think that the US was very quick to identify. And those those are your ultimate focus groups when a guy's name get set at a press conference when a guy gets questions at a press conference. What a guy has a bigger crowded open workout when a guy gets a pop and he comes through the curtain at the way in Dana White. That little computer is going off. He is. He is storing all the noise. We call it a pop who gets the biggest pop. He's storing these things away. You wonder who's going to get a higher place but on the next card. Whoever got the loudest noise when he came out for the previous car in I think they saw this incon- another reason I say? Connors career was like a fine wine. Many guys have been helped in the office but the office would never admit to that. Because that's something that boxing does that. Mma just doesn't want anything to do with. We don't carry guys build guys. The best fights the best. I will admit to you yes. Many guys have been helped in the office but for the office to come out and say yes. We're building this guy we admit it. We're bringing this guy. Favorable competition we see star power in this athlete. I can only think of one guy. They've ever said that about and that was Carter but now let's take a look at how much they really helped him k. They wanted to help her out one night. In fact it was the night I was talking about the night. I met him at the press conference so they brought in a young unknown kid to get beat up to go do the job. That kid is named Max Holloway. But he is. Name's Max Holloway in two thousand and thirteen two years before Max Holloway's Max Holloway. Three years before he becomes the greatest featherweight on earth five years before he becomes the greatest featherweight in the history of earth. Okay full credit to Connor. They then bring him another very easy fight they bring them a young kid out of Kentucky. Twenty six years old named Dustin. Pori a this is five years before Dustin poor as the champion of the world. This is four years before does support as a consummate number one contender for the championship in the world. Six years before he sharing the octagon for five full rounds convenient amalgam. I'm what I'm saying. Go Back and look at who? Connor beat on his easy fights on his helpful fights right one of the problems you have in the office. You don't know who somebody is and one thing about the sport. Whoever has the biggest name is the better fighter? It's always been that way. It's always been that way. Perception is reality and I've always wondered if people have ever gone back. I highly highly disagree with Ryan's premise. I do not think. Connor was identified as an early champion. I do not believe the night that connor walked it against Josie. Although that the office thought Connor was going over. I thought they thought you know what we had a good run. We took a guy with two fights. His third fight he became a main event. Sold out his fourth fight. He was a main event. Sold out his fifth fight. Main of it sold on his six wins an interim championship. We had a good run with this guy. We're smart enough to figure out how to rebuild them No. Nobody's beaten chose but if he just go out there and compete Levin seconds later he said on top of the octagon hole in the bell of. I just don't agree. That connor was carried to be champion. I think he was identified as a star accurately. So champion I think Carter for the potential. That people saw him early. Even the Kenny forms and the Michael Biscuits of the world as big as they were on them and their opinions matter. I don't think they ever saw double champ. And now that connor's at one seventeen. I had people all the way to Hawaii. Pushed back on me for saying that the connor just might be the new number one contender at one. Seventy guys if I look for the pieces are going to fall. Tony Versus Justin goes right into the winner of Tony Versus Justin versus could be pushes. The date way out. Meanwhile in July which appears even in this weird world. We're in right now. July does appear to be very safe date. May Scott Coker come out. Talked about June. July is a pretty safe date that happens to be when BOOZMAN IS FIGHTING MAZDA. Which would be perfect time to bring connor and on the back of that as opposed to having connor sit out until potentially December if not January of next year. Why Justified Khabib what's the difference? Titles title Corners Connor. I think it's likely connor fights for the once every pound title guys. I am looking for the next great submission grappler if you're a black belt if you're young if you're hungry if you're willing to compete with anybody anytime. I want to hear from you. Contact me at Info at bad guy. Inc DOT COM. Here's a message from our sponsors ziprecruiter guys right. We cannot be overwhelmed. We have to work to keep our loved one safe and protect our communities. We have to work to stay strong to stay connected to stay focused. 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Doing Gamesmanship here. Is he just making a statement to be interesting? Can you actually be good at something that you do not enjoy absolutely absolutely and I absolutely believe George but here was the difference with George? George was one of the first guys to admit it. If you have a problem the first step to recovery is admittance and then you have to want to get better like any other addiction in life and George was able to identify very early on. I love the train. I loved the lifestyle. I love to compete. I love testing myself. I don't like to be in front of the world doing all those things on TV at the same time normal. That doesn't make him weird. That makes him normal but what makes him special is that he identified and through that monkey office back he popped out. Here's what's up in. Just two fused the problem to a very high level Georgia at one point in. Put me in touch with a sports psychologist named Brian Kane. And when I started working with Brian Kane I started to understand why George put me in touch with it but I also started understand the mindset of George by the things that Brian Caine was putting us through. There was visualization techniques but there was also a lot of talk and dialogue in real logical understanding that took place so after working with the psychologist that George worked with and then here in some of the comments that Georgia's made George did himself a favour early on Georgia used to tell stories that he David Laws. They were very close. They came up together for. They came from traditional martial arts. George Karate David the Waza taekwondo that came up together and I trained with David. A couple of times at team quest any told me this when he endorsed fought made their debut. They made it together their band of brothers. They did it to get there in the back. Loisel went onto fight for a world championship. That's how good he was safe here. Want to become world champion. So good he was. They made a deal in the back. If you're truly my friend don't ever let me do this again. And the other one says okay if you're truly my friend. Don't you let me do this again? This was a terrible idea. We're going to see it through because we egos and we're here but if I forget how much I hate this tomorrow. You have to be the one to remind. And they made the deal with each other. I understand that as a real thing because that happened with Ed. Herman and I in New Jersey Taj Mahal. Same Card in the back. Don't let me do this again. Okay you don't let me do this again. That night we go out to the buffet together. Deals off hey forget everything I told you is that was. That was just talk. I love that must be a practice together Monday. And get ready for the next one and we're saying it back and forth to each other so all I'm offering for you is yes. George was being truthful and yet being in there is a different emotion. It's a different level of emotion. I don't feel that it fits into happy. Sad scared excited. I don't feel that it fits into any normal human emotion. I feel that there's an emotion all to itself and there is a bit of a high from it. You know. Some people gambled to lose. You guys will see that if you spend time in Las Vegas. You might be one of them you will get. A bigger disappointment will be a bigger emotion from losing at the table. Then excitement from winning at the table. Some gamblers gamble to lose. Believe that or not. It's a very real thing. So those negative emotions those trying times can be some of the strongest emotions. Which oddly is what brings us back. You're listening to your welcome with jail. Sunan support for your welcome with Shale Sun and comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by quicken loans home. 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And let's get their take uncle jail. This fee buddy at a question for you. I don't know if you've been avoiding. I don't know if you answered it in another video. Maybe who knows? This is my question who wins at a sanctioned. Imam may fight between Daniel Cormier age. Forty in randy couture age forty at a light heavyweight bout. Who takes that one give to a straight? I don't care who's feelings get hurt sled us. Nobody thanks for all you do okay. I think you've shot yourself in the foot here and I'll tell you why I think what you're attempting to ask is Daniel cormet versus radical tour. Both on their best night who wins. That's what I think you're I think you're trying to ask but it's not what you said you said forty year old randy versus forty year old. Daniel Cormie so if you're a D. C. supporter and you want to hear the DC's going to be randy you are likely right on. Dc's best night versus randy best night. The problem with Randy is he got better with age. Don't forget randy started. The sport at thirty four years old became the champion of the world at thirty six years old so by the time he got to forty. He wasn't like most guy he was getting better. He won his last world championship at forty four years old. So and maybe I should take you literally. I'm just not I'm assuming because you said forty four each of them now. That could change your answer a forty year old randy couture against a forty year old anybody else. That's a tough night outright. They're a forty one year-old forty two year old ran forty three. That's a tough night out right there and only getting harder. He got more into nutrition. He started his own supplement lines. He started doing all sorts of scientific things later in his career. So if you're looking to find out who was flat out better. Who was the batter dude? And you wanted a side with Daniel. You have a very good argument but you asked the question at forty years old and I feel like you stacked the deck against Daniel and I think it tips to randy h huge fan. I'm wondering your opinion as a wrestler. Who Do you think would wynonna grappling much Habib or Gordon Rhyme? And I know what you're GONNA say. Well Gordon Ryan. Of course he's the Best Jiu Jitsu practitioner in the world right now. I'm not saying he'll be right now. I'm saying if you could be no more striking focus on grappling ship them off to Russia train with the bears. How do you think that will go down? I in rules then in combat-ready Jitsu rules as well. Thanks Joe Okay. So that's a tough one. I appreciate that you pointed out the rule set. Because that's the first place my my went to as well now. I don't know that you would have to ship. Could leave off could be is fantastic grappling. But he's also going to be fantastic and getting the top position. I think the question comes down to size is could be big enough to go with Gordon and in many Jujitsu tournaments. We don't do a pound for pound. We just put them together. Call an absolute matter. What you way doesn't matter what you wear only matters who could beat the other guy so with that said I think the biggest question for could be would be sized. Could Gordon Sweep in? Gordon has positions particularly from half guard and their positions that only the Danaher death-squad knows and they're going to be ahead of the curve for about seven years. It's going to take five years until an outsider can see enough competitions. Get enough film. Figure this out and break down to have the offensive moves. The death squad is doing right. Now it's going to take another two years to figure out the defenses that's at the Danaher death-squad stays equal doesn't progress the reason. I offer that for you because Gordon can some positions a half gardens. You Jitsu used to be viewed as a half day. You've only got half the position. You're in a bad spot. Now guys particularly without striking that is a whole nother game when you start getting the Gorn Ryan in the Craig Jones's of the world that find that half our this. This is a half a position. This is where the matches starting. I do think that could be would have a lot better chance than you think. The smaller guy that can get on top is a big problem. It's always the bottom guy that wants to be the smaller guy you'll remember went hoist gracie showed the World Jujitsu. He was so much smaller than as opponents but he was winning fights from his back the smaller guys a little more squirreling and can move those hips a little bit better. He can arm drag a little bit better. He can get to some attacks better. So if Kabaeva on top of Gordon. It's going to be a benefit for Khabib in grappling systems that ultimately have a time limit and favor points. But it could be gets entangled. Competes getting stretched jail? You the best. I again to work out a home gym during this quarantine. Two questions I got for you. Connor Tony they fight right conroy sprint. And the first two rounds and put Tony Away. Does he win that fight push into? How would you see Tony? I pour a fight going down. Thanks chill well. Tony versus poor area would be the better fight in terms of of longer and back and forth and who won that round and I think the other guy won this round and all my Gosh. We're going into the third and this thing could be tied at one apiece. That's going to be your better fight. Now let's back up because connor verses Tony and you're bringing the sprint up by Connor. Because I believe you're talking about the endurance and the cardio favors Tony. I don't disagree with you on the endurance and Cardio favoring Tony I have always disagreed with a false narrative that connor has conditioned issues. I have never seen those never. I have seen the night that he got exhausted against. Nate Diaz and I accepted his response if I was not official with my energy. I'm forced to accept that as we're all of you when they do the rematch and connor changes the pace any changes. When he puts his foot down on the pedal he goes all twenty five minutes and he gets his hand raised. I don't think he has a conditioning. Issue the fact that he could go into boxing with the greatest of all time when he knew in his heart. I don't even belong in here. I've never done this before. What are these things on my hand and still stand on his feet for thirty four minutes before yes sure? He got tired up to thirty minutes. Sure did he's a human being but to go into something that you haven't done before and not really know where to pace yourself and you can practice and you can prepare and you can hit the midst of the bag and you can even jumping around with pauline spar while people are watching. It's not the same thing as fight night. Fight Creating Zayed creature pressure which creates a fatigue. And he's still pushed through it. And I think those are the two fights where people have always seen and always thought okay. Connor gets tired not giving consideration that. The first time he fought nate was also moved up from one forty. Five one. Five to one seventy moved up a little bit fast which is going to create some fatigue till you get used to that till you get used to the shot your opponents can take no when it hit him hard or just to touch him and when you know your own body. What's it like when you are now carrying an extra thirty pounds or I'm just offering? I don't know that I've ever bought into this. Get CONNOR TIRED and he'll give up I don. I don't know that I've ever bought into that. Listen up do you own or rent your home sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with GEICO. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowners and renters insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around the house. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote. See how much you can say. That's GEIKO DOT COM GEICO DOT COM my year. Let's say they have a lot. A normal arthurian fought on Matt is on champion. The question is which fires do you think would be best if the stop fighting by comes to my mind the badness only Anthony. Pettis very creative and elusive. There's lots of crazy kicks out with Champa another fire that. Thank you recently. Just engaging. Does that crazy little cartwheel. Casey does almost every round. Think that we love more effective. He could jump higher Amino which he again which would be the best suited for May match on trembling in Octagon. What are we doing? Did you send that in on April first and I'm just now getting around to. It certainly meant that as a joke I mean. How far do we go with this game? What if we just put these guys on the moon and there's no gravity? What if we put these guys in a phone booth and there's no space I certainly? You're putting me on right now. I have to play the question though because you never broke character. You've got one hell of a poker face so I guess I'll take a little bit of a shot. I think if we're using logic you probably broke it down correctly. The guys that are lighter on their feet like to jump in the air probably going to do better on the trampoline. I I don't know I've never understood the difference. I've heard guys make excuses. Ivory guys say all the way from Tito getting knocked out by Lee Murray and say well. I was wearing dress shoes. I don't know what one has to do with the other guys fighting or were you fight where you both on the same surface or were you not. I've never understood that concept guys have gone over to pride and lost and said what if I was in a cage. I would have done but I don't. I don't know the difference. I've never made those excuses. Been around coaches. That would allow me to make those. I don't know a Goddamn thing about it. So as far as the trampoline goes I. I think you might have something there that they're bouncing around but two guys it seems like it's equal to me. Hey Chill I was wondering if you think that there's any validity to the statement that a fighter can be too short for his weight class. Recently Latifi moved up to heavyweight fought Derek Lewis and lost a unanimous decision. I believe but many people including myself thought he won but people were criticizing him because they're saying that he was too short to be light heavyweight and he's definitely too short to be heavyweight that if anything should have moved down to middleweight and so I was just wondering if you think height should be a big decision on what way class you choose to fight him. If you like say that I fighters like under six foot. But he's very heavy very muscular likelier Latifi. That like he shouldn't he doesn't have any business like fighting at heavyweight light heavyweight. Because you shouldn't give up that much height and reach. Thanks yes absolutely now. This is the one that doesn't get talked about enough K. Size it always gets talked about reach somehow has got talked about. That was a boxing thing when you only have one tool which is your arm right. I have no idea how. Mma picked up on that from boxing. I have no idea what weird stat guy. Just good way. Here's what boxing does. So here's what we're gonNA reach really. Isn't that relevant? The size is relevant perception. Wise we're starting to see that doesn't two dozen. Two plus two isn't always four when it comes to size but I will tell you this because this one's never talked about yes. There are some weight classes. You must have a certain height on my biggest fear. When Johny Hendricks moved up from one seventy To one hundred eighty five pounds wasn't what he was going to weigh on the scale and I know that has become the talk and the narrative. I'm just offering you. That is false. It is falsely talk. The narrative the reality of Janis problem was one hundred and eighty five. Pounds was height and height issue. That is the first thing you need to look at. It's not what it's how tall online and you can give a couple of inches or you can have a couple of inches. You're talking about the same thing if you start talking about four and five inches. It changes everything. You're changing leverage points for when you're grappling changing striking distances when you're on your feet whether it's with your kicks with your elbows with your hands yes height matters and I think you're one of the first guys to point that out. Now you'll have an exception to every rule and I know the exception to the rule. That's GONNA come to everybody's mind is going to be Mike Tyson. But Mike Tyson was the exception too many rules. And when you're a guy that knew how to get inside had that kind of power and also understood the value of a body shot. These are some of the things that allowed Mike and I challenge you. Offer me another example but it did allow Mike to still have success. Hey chill what was the special sauce that Sucker Raba had that allowed him to beat the GRACIE EST win? All the other challengers failed. He still hasn't sock Arabas. Still doing grappling competitions. I don't know how soccer Raba how old soccer but he's a meaningful age older than I am. He's still going out there with some of the best guys in the world. Some of them. He's beating the ones he's not beating he's making it the distance to he still has this weird limber nece. I've studied that guy was so great at I would have to favor his ground but he hit incredibly hard kicks on his feet incredibly. He'd walked right outstanding the pocket. He did a front leg kick with his front leg. Not as power leg that would be like equivalent to your job. He had this front lake. He would kick you so hardy. Pa- welts you can hear the kicks coming down. You'd want to go to the ground with him. I mean he was very very good on his feet. He was always well conditioned and he was an avid smoker soccer. Robin would be in the locker room before matches smoking. He never got tired. He wasn't a strong guy. You could tell that. Just reading the book by his cover of these muscles coming out. He wasn't a big guy. He had a great understanding of competition. He Great Mind. Forty is very relaxed. He had a great understanding of submissions. And he was a guy that he would always be a two on one. He'd always come to a key lock he'd always have two of his hands on one of yours or one of your feet of one of your and that's very comedy. It's not the only one to do that. But he would get there and he would put one hundred percent until he was kind of like a smaller version of Josh Barnett. In that way he. This is going to be your problem. Not Mine and I think that that helped them. I think some of His Holiness and his rubber nece I think he was a little ahead of his time on being well rounded but even the back story on Soccer Robert. He didn't have any amateur credentials to show on paper he got into a UFC that was in Japan because he was doing low level professional wrestling and he thought he could sell some tickets. Thought he could come over and do some shooting. He was ahead of the curve. And where that even came from is still a mystery. Jill on Cook Chill. This is your number one fan from Serbia readings. I was just watching some K. One old fights and I came across Fight from Japan was a fight between Fox out and Gerald Levin Air and to really interesting. I didn't know about that fight. Dave two rounds K. One and two rounds in anime these reach the gloss between rounds and they They vote like four rounds. Enters really interesting and I was just thinking. What would you think about that in today's time? Let's say steep a fight. K One champion Recorder I think that'll generate the really good numbers Or let's say Father Garry came to fight Francis. Gone or something crazy like that. Thank you I gotTa tell you. I'm not overly into it. Those Gimmick matches are fun. The first thing you have to understand anything that you saw or Japan that has to do with combat fixed. Japan is notorious. Japan was caught and they were ran by gangsters. They were betting on this stuff. Japan was so far behind with the US the US had all that stuff too. But you gotta go back to the fifties then commissions got involved in everything got straight down. Combat really started to change. When you're watching it in Japan. Some of those were fixed. Some of those were real. Some of those were gimmick matches. Like what you're laying out. Look I don't know that we have to take a very special athlete in one field at a special athlete in another and then try to like. Combine them into some hybrid. If you WANNA do that just for the attention if you want to see if you want to see Dominic Mo- Chino Compete against Michael Jordan. I'm in put them in the Swimming Pool K. Take dominant skills away. Take JORDAN SKILLS WAY. Don't try to do like a hybrid. Where they're they're going to shoot baskets while back flipping on a beam if you want to just see too great athletes who want to do something just for fun or this is a charity match. Change the field completely. That's that's the way to do something like this in anywhere else. In between not only does it look desperate which it is not only does it look baffling look. There's no way to go down in history as a person that did anything I mean. That's not an actual division. If you guys go out and you go into a sport that you just created even if you want to market it as a hybrid there's no lineage behind it there's GonNa be no following after it and essentially you just wasted your time. H My name's Dombi Sharm and they're super cal. State Bakersfield ice got two questions. One how is Emma may wrestling different than say? Just regular folks down freestyle wrestling match and chew. Why do we see such accomplish? Rousers like Euler marrow. Just engage she Not really user wrestling all right. Let me let me start with the second question. First what happens and this is. You'll see this engulf all the time if somebody will come and they will fall in love with their swing. And there's a number of wrestlers who have come over to Emma and they fall in love with that right hand. Dan Henderson would be one of probably things worked out best for Dan than any other wrestler that you could compare it to understood rain. She understood the setup and he had a tremendous power. Josh contract comes to mind. Johny Hendricks comes to mind some of the guys that got away from what they did. Best had awesome careers. They just had shorter careers. And let me back up to the first part. Mma wrestling differentiates from collegian freestyle wrestling in one large aspect. Which is the setup and the posture K now. The posture is very obvious. You're coming straight up. And down. As opposed to who can their head lowest to the man but it also comes with the setup some guys can never make the transition MMA because as opposed to slipping punch and then trying to close that distance all of a sudden. They don't know what to do. And they don't have an elbow when they hit on have risk control when they don't have an under hook. It's just totally different setups. It is very hard for a wrestler no matter how talented to walk into a and do well on his first a even at wrestling. You'll have a national champion wrestler guy who hadn't wrestled since high school if they go do that. The high school wrestler is going to take the national champion down. The high school guys. Never get a get taken. Just arrange issue. Here's where is but then it's also a setup issue learning how to throw a punch or shorten. Sometimes you want to stick a guy to blind. Sometimes you want to lift it. Just to fake. Going for your. Sometimes you want to take the shot come up to the strike go back to just learning and the wrestlers are still doing very well and it's just been a longer curb where it used to take them six months now it's taken them. Twenty four months to make the change. The wrestling is still a very good base. It's just one aspect now you get on top of a guy you figure everything else out from there. Well now you're just changing positions guys are different on their back. They're different on their feet and the third it does go in. This order starts with posture goes to setups but the third and I think that you should be aware of this. Because I'm interpreting your question as you being an aspiring Emma Guy. The third is the duration of the match. A wrestler gets very good over his life of knowing how to go seven minutes. Heart Minimum. Fifteen at a minimum. And certainly a guy like you has dreams of being the main event and the champion. Now you're talking about twenty five minutes so a wrestler who has a very good cardio background does have to learn how to extend that time. All right guys I think it is fair to say that was a full action packed day. I've enjoyed visiting with you and I'm going to enjoy visiting with you again next Wednesday and tell them Chaleston enjoy your weekend. Thanks for listening to your welcome with jail. Sunan download new episodes every week at podcast. One DOT com. That's podcast oh any DOT com. Hey it is former NFL player. Ross Tucker from the cleverly named Rostker Football podcast and perhaps more importantly for our purposes right now. The even money sports betting gambling podcasts. Which like everything else is presented by Bet Online? And I'm here to give you my top ten picks for the two thousand twenty. Nfl draft coming up on Thursday April twenty third. By the way you can bet on pretty much any player where they're going to drafted and I'm GonNa give you some tips on that right now. Just use the code. Podcast one at bed online DOT AG. And you'll get number one glorious sign up bonus and number two you'll be able to make the draft even more entertaining than it already is when you place over under bets on where these guys will get selected. Obviously I think number one. Cincinnati bengals are gonNA take Lsu quarterback Joe. Borough would be very surprised if they didn't number two with the Washington redskins some rumors about them taking a quarterback. I don't believe it chase young. The defensive end from Ohio state is an absolute stud. That's who the redskins will take by the way a bed online. His over under is two and a half so I love the under chase young as go in number two to take that money that online but on the under on chase young number three Detroit. Lot of speculation that the Miami Dolphins or the LA chargers will trade up to number three to take a quarterback. I don't think it's going to happen. I think both the dolphins and the chargers are comfortable yet. Adding either to a Tongo by a low of from Alabama or Justin Herbert from Oregon. And I don't think either one of them ends up trading up so I think the Lions and taking another Ohio State Buckeye. That is Jeffrey. Okuda corner at number three number four. You've got the G. Men the New York giants. They're either going to go off. Enter tackle or linebacker. Isiah SIMMONS and Dave Gettleman. Just can't help himself. He loves athletic. Linebackers. Isaiah Simmons can fly. I think he goes number four his bed online over under six and a half. I really think he hits the under because even if the giants don't take them. I think maybe the dolphins or the chargers do if they don't elect take a quarterback so I liked the under Verizon Simmons then you get to the Miami Dolphins number five and they'll debate to tango via Loa or Justin Herbert in this. They're going to go to you know. I know there's some medical questions but there's some performance questions with Herbert. I think they're going to go to a Tango. Vilo and feel like they got a guy who otherwise would have been the number one pick number five number six. It's the La chargers. I think they're happy to take Justin Herbert from Oregon four point. Oh GPA SMART Kid. Big grade arm. He's got five and a half is his over under her bed online. That's a tough one. I guess here I'm going over but I'm not sure that I put a lot of money on the over there because Herbert could go at three four five to keep that in. Mind when you're making your bed over at bed online number seven Carolina Panthers Derrick Brown the D. tackle from Auburn his over under a bed online. Eight and a half. So I'm going under their number eight Arizona cardinals. Nita right tackle desperately. I think they'll take Alabama right tackle. Jed Rick Wills instead of tristen worst from Iowa at number eight so go ahead and take wills at number eight years on a car number nine another offensive. Tackle MCI Becton this Dude Domo. Six eight three hundred seventy pounds and he can move. He's number nine to the Jacksonville. Jaguars number ten. You've got Andrew Thomas in my mind going to the Cleveland browns. They need a left tackle. Desperately started three years at Georgia. Very gifted player. 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The MMA Reporters: Episode 6

Ariel Helwani's MMA Show

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The MMA Reporters: Episode 6

"It is Wednesday February twentieth. Two thousand and nineteen. Welcome back to another episode of Yemane reporters. And when you do shows like this one when you do shows like the one I do a Monday when you do shows like on the bad guy. It's always fun when news breaks right before you do the show doesn't happen often. But when it does when there's fresh news out there new news, if you will that's always very exciting. And that's what happened this morning. So we found out at around ten thirty AM eastern time. You have see sent out a press release that George rush Saint Pierre, arguably the greatest mixed martial arts. Fighter of all time. The pride of Saint is adult Quebec Canada the face of Canadian MA, the former you have see welterweight and middleweight champion was set to hold a press conference. Tomorrow in Montreal Thursday morning Montreal to make a special quote unquote announcement moments later, Ben web, dwell of LDS in Quebec a sister station of. Yes. PIN by the way, the French Canadian version of ESPN and Quebec announced that George was expected to announce his retirement, I have confirmed the multiple sources that that is in fact, true George saint-pierre tomorrow at ten thirty A M eastern time, we'll nounce his retirement from mixed martial arts. According to my sources, he tried to secure fighting Libya Magomedov once it became clear that that was not going to happen that it would not materialize. He decided at thirty seven years young that it was time to walk away. Of course, the last time we saw him in action was November of two thousand seventeen you have see to seventeen when he defeated Michael Bank, and you'll call he stayed a beat longer in the cage that night to say goodbye to the fans to knowledge the fans in the end that ended up being his final. As an active UFC fighter inside, the cage. So we have a lot to talk about here this afternoon. It is a pleasure once again to be joined by the man in the shirt, Jeff wagon Heim, the great Jeff wagon Heim and also returning is the one and only Greg Rosenstein, and this is very fun guys because this is sort of like the heartbeat of ESPN dot com slash. I'm a may you two gentlemen, kind of set the table for everyone. So first, Jeff welcome back. Good. Tara Tara lls of emotional day. It is emotional saint-pierre. It's like it's the end of an era. I will share my motions in a moment. But let's just say Hello to Greg as well. Greg. How are you? I'm doing great. Hopefully, no more news breaks because this is the entire section right here. So yeah, that's back. I was gonna add when you when you said, it's really cool. When news Rex before one of these shows, it always seems to happen that newsbreaks as soon as you finish. That's right. That's like this is like this is where we're we're we're playing with house money here. So I wanna talk to you guys about what just came out this news. Just broke. I just wanna set the table. I for my perspective. No secret that I am from Montreal. No secret that George saint-pierre growing up along with the laws. Oh where my favorite fighters before. I started doing this for a living. I've said on many occasions that you have C sixty five when he beat Matt Hughes to finally become the world champion is my favorite fight of all time. I went to champs sports bar on San Laurent street in Montreal with some friends who knew nothing about a man, I tried to convert them into MA fans, we watched it the place exploded like the Canadians had just won the Stanley Cup. George saint-pierre means a lot to me. I can't I'm a human being. I can't I can't hide that. And it has been honored covers career. So to your point Jeff, I am a little motion. I think a lot of thought that this could happen to actually see it become a reality. And and and and I hope to be there tomorrow at the press conference. Thank you ESPN for giving me that opportunity. It's an end of an era, and it's not often that arguably the greatest ever walks away. And so this gives us some time to reflect and so let me. Ask you when you heard about the news. What did you think I thought good for him? That's what I thought. I know that you mentioned that Habib fight was sort of hanging out there, and it would have been great to see something like that. But I really thought good for George. I mean, this is a guy who who walked away from the sport when he was on top. And how many people do that? It's a pretty rare thing in combat sports really in sports in general, but in combat sports in particular, and then he made the decision to come back when he fought against bist, ping. And and how many times someone who walked away come back, and then they get exposed their their their return. We just saw it last weekend. Cain Velasquez comes back from a long long absence. And and seconds later. He's he's on the campus, and that's over well, George came back, and and became a champion a whole different way class. So he's almost like he's had so many triumphs or even triumph from returns. And you know, now he's walking away as. A guy who was a two-time champion perhaps the greatest ever I'm going to say as great as ever. Good for him. I agree with that completely. I think like you said there's too many of these fighters who are all time greats, and they keep going and keep going, and then it gets almost sad, you know, couple months ago when we saw BJ Penn that was kind of sad, you know, this past weekend henna Barat that was kind of sad. So I think it's great when these fighters, no when they don't wanna keep going, and you know, he said on your show, call months ago, whenever is on that fire really isn't there anymore? So if he's not getting the fights that he wants he shouldn't just be forced into a fight just for the sake of it. He doesn't need the money. He's all time. Great no matter what no matter where you have him. I know he's he's number one for you. I think a lot of people have number one. I think he's definitely a top five all time. So I think it's I think it's the right time if he's not really feeling that fire. Okay. So let me ask you this before we dig deeper into Georgia and his legacy, and perhaps why he's walking away. Jeff you've been covering the fight game along time, and Greg you just alluded to this. The fight game. Is filled with stories of people who announced their retirement, and then come back, even Daniel Cormet said, I'm going to retire when I turned forty in March, and that has been pushed back we know about Roy Jones junior talking for years, I'm gonna retire when I'm x years old comes back Bernard Hopkins and the same BJ Penn. I mean, it's just it's it's it's very rare that someone stays true to this. I think of a Lennox Lewis who stay chewed said I'm done and never came back. Even though he tried people. Try to get him to come back in short. Do you believe George do you really believe that this is it for him? Oh, yeah. Totally. I feel as though when he walked away after the Johny Hendricks fight years ago. And he never used the R word. He never said retirement. I I think that said something about how he wasn't quite ready to truly walk away. But he just couldn't continue at that time. And you know, if you remember the time he was he was kind of a motion mess. He was he was having a hard time in his fight. He was also getting beat up in fights. Even though he was continuing to win and he needed to be away from the sport. He might have never come back. But he wasn't ready at the time to say he was done. I think this time he's he's ready. And again, he's he's he has been a champion two different way. Classes. I know he wanted to get that fight will be which I guess if he had to cut down two hundred and fifty five pounds and become a champion of the third way class. It would have been crazy. But is that what the guy really I mean, I suppose for him if the one one more complement would have been a great thing for him. But I think he he seems like a guy who's who's who knows what he's done in the sport. And he knows when it's when it's time to walk away. So is it. I do believe him that he is feeling this way and retirement could very well be exactly what he's going to be in forever. I do think though that you know, he just said he wanted to could be and so it's not completely gone. You know, what I mean and for the right money for the right person? Anybody could come out of retirement. So I'm not gonna give it one hundred percent locked about you. I mean, you're you're closer than I am with him. Would you would you sense? I find the timing interesting because as you just said so much can happen between now. And when he is ready to return right Abib has said that he's only gonna come back November once his his teammates suspension are up and were in February. So that's in nine months, a lockin happen. Even if he did come back in November and one a lot can happen between that fight in his next fight. So I'm really curious George hasn't talked on the record yet. But I'm curious to hear his explanation. It is important to note, he's thirty seven, and I think that the you have. See was a little upset that he came back to fight. Michael bist bang, and then didn't defend the title because that's what happened in the Jani Hendrix fight. He dropped the belt and you'll recall Dana white saying that there was a clause that he had to defend it against Robert Whitaker that didn't happen. So he gave it the title like eleven days later. I think it was. So I thought it was a very very very long shot that we give them a third title fight in the third different way class because I don't think George is ready and willing to be an active champion. Meaning I think he wants legacy fights. He wants big fights the idea of being the first man to defeat hubby Mogomedov is incredibly intriguing for him. I don't think he is interested in being a guy who's going to defend the lightweight while Twitter midway title, you know, actively right? And so the you have C is gonna say now can give you this massive fight. But I'm not surprised that they're saying, no. And I'm not surprised that he has the feeling that you know, what I'm never gonna get this fight. Because of how the last two title rains went could totally understand the way of thinking. I mean, nobody. Ever gone to a different way class won a title, and then not defend it kinda McGregor. But I mean, look Georgia's a guy who had he he is he walks his own path. He's a guy who at times challenged the company with regards to drug testing, really he was the first prominent guy who was out there calling for more for more stringent testing. Now, some of that hasn't hasn't really worked out so well for the sport in general, but but he was the guy that was out there, and he was challenging the C specifically about that. So I I understand them not wanting to do him any favors even though he certainly makes made him a lot of money. And if they put him in another big fight, he would have made even more money for them. Are you surprised the UC's interested in this fight Greg interested in could be been James Bay? Yeah. A little bit because it's too huge huge names. I mean, they're all about selling tickets. About song paper views. I mean that would that would crush, right? I mean, those are two amazing fighters. So I am a little surprised. They're not interested. I mean, we don't know all the details, and why didn't come together. But I am a little surprised Dana white has been asked about this multiple times. He's like, I'm not gonna even that fight. That's not something we're interested in because I think he was legitimately mad. And so I do agree with you. Jeff I understand their line of thinking. And quite frankly, I think it would be hypocritical on our part, especially you, and I Jeff who have talked about like meritocracy and things like that. There is a log jam at one fifty five it would be hard to tell Tony Ferguson, for example. Hey, we're giving this guy who's never fought at one fifty five title shot over you or doesn't Pori or I mean, I I'm not gonna knock the C for this percent. But to your point, Greg. This is a money fight. Like this fight does way better than Ferguson. The only fight that probably does better than this one for Habib is Connery Mitch. And I think there's for me like stylistically. She is papers. Habib is freaking. Ng incredible, right? Yeah. Way. More interesting for me, then Connery match because I agree. You know, unless CONNER suddenly learns way more wrestling, again, I'm not going to discredit McGregor because he did better on the ground that a lot of people did against have done against the hubby. But let's he can raise that significantly of. I don't see a fight with with Habib changing the result changing much at all, you know, George saint-pierre has been always touted as sort of one of the great greatest MMA wrestler is a guy with no actual wrestling credentials in his pocket. But a guy who's always been able to out wrestle everybody. He's he's fought against. And you know, even though he would have cut down to one hundred and fifty five he would be a bigger man than could be. So yes, certainly, there would would have been some interesting things on your right, though. You can't I it would not be right for him to step ahead of the line. I just don't think that's the reason why the is is saying no to the fight. I mean, they're. The idea that you know, I'm not gonna Dana. Why would say I'm not going to give them this fight as if he's giving him something? He's what he's doing is. He's trying to make fights that make money. So there's other reasons there were you at that Prescott. Were you at U of C one sixty seven when he fought Johnny Hendricks. I was not at that one. You've seen the price. You remember how contentious it was? Yeah. Ever since. Then it's never been the same between the two you. Remember the press conference? I think it was before the Kevin Leigh Tony Ferguson fight in Las Vegas. So that was what you have C two one six if memory serves me, correct? And they did the press conference for GS p bis being and Dana walked up there. And everyone's like, so what was your reaction when you found out that Georgia's coming back, and he said awesome. Like there was no excitement. He didn't build that fight. It always felt like he was just not that buzzed about the fact that arguably the greatest of all time was coming back ever since that press conference. He said he owes it to us. He should defend the title. That's what you do. Johnny Hendrix was so close to winning that fight. They wouldn't have had that problem and ever. Since that moment of felt like they could not see eye to eye vincis becomes talking about drug testing. And and the union thing remember that he was on the forefront of all that ever since then. So I think all that comes into play when you try to figure out why they're not interested in this. Habib fight right? I'm actually carrying about another possibility say Tyron Woodley who call who always wants to fight US pay Sade say Woodley wins other the refighting row or something. Do you think it's possible that because he's just continues to rise that could be something that for the right money and everything GOP would consider coming back for or is he not is he still not enough of a draw? So he was like three or four zero. It's a good question. I think all of us would sign up for that fight. I don't think he has any interest in that fight because that's a mountain that he conquered. He's considered the greatest Welsh haven't of all time. And let's say by the time that actually happens where we're tired as threatening his record George can be like probably close to forty at that point. Right. George saint-pierre is that the kind of guy I think who's going to sit on his couch now and eat a lot of Patine or something like that. I mean, he is going to be in great shape for his entire life. I don't suspected he will like balloon in his forties and fifties that being said he's all about he's talked about this so many times the stock market, you know, who's up who's down. What's my legacy? All this. I think for him welterweight is done like everytime. You ask them about. What about like, he doesn't even entertain the idea? One eighty five was of interest because he had never done it. Double champ one fifty five would be of interest because he never done it. Triple champ Abib undefeated in his mind. What gathered is there's no mountain there as far as these concern. So to answer your question. No, I don't I would love to see the fights to bad day, two favorite people. Really? I know that is true to would've put the belt on anyone in that case. So that's going to happen tomorrow. And so this gives us an opportunity to celebrate George, and I just mentioned the story. So like for me. Very quickly being MMA fan. And and seeing someone who's from Montreal rise up and become that big of a star again him David Lonzo Dave was a went to a college. That was literally ten minutes from you know, where where my family lived when I was in high school that was just you know, that sort of thing didn't happen like in hockey they were Montreal born stars. But another sports there weren't and so that was super cool for us. And that's why Jesus was always our guy and the first time I ever interviewed George saint-pierre was July of two thousand eight when I was working for a website called 'em rated dot com, and I went to try star. And I was nervous hell and he sat on the ring on their forget at the clip is still on YouTube sat on the ring. And he spoke to me like we were. I mean like best buds, and I couldn't believe how one of the big stars in the sport was that down to earth when I was running my own website, Jerry park dot com. I somehow God his number and cold called him at that point never done any video work or anything and asked him to be on the show. And I said was from John everything did the interview right then and there for me. So I think. His legacies that he was always kind of, you know, humble down to earth respectful martial-arts comes from the true martial arts background. But but Jeff I understand I've never been to these though you've been to his hometown. Yeah. Coming up to Montreal to watch him fight a believe it was Nick D S fight K. And I was I was driving up from Massachusetts through Mont with my wife. And I said, you know, we we have to take a little detour when we're on the way to Montreal. And I found Santa's to do on the map, and I went over there. And I was expecting there to be you know, like in some little town you'd see like banners across across the roadway. You know, big for Georgia. What I was expecting there to be major celebrations. But it was great quiet. There was nothing at all in the town in there, and we stopped at a little convenience store. And I was asking the person behind the counter. Now, everybody courses a this is in deepest Quebec. So there's hardly anybody half the people I. Would speak to could not speak to me in English. They were just they were French-Speaking. And I think French I'm on. But but but I I was able to at least express that. I was there to ask about George saint-pierre. And some people knew who he was some people didn't even know it was kind of very low key. I was kind of surprised, and then I later found out that that that his his schooling was in a neighboring town. So even though he was from one town his his the where he actually went to school, and where he was kind of a little better known was was in another town. So I, you know, I. You know, I I in a sense, I feel like I gone to the wrong place. But it was still kinda cool to go into the place where this guy was it was like a little tiny little town middle of farmland. And there was nothing. Nothing much out. There was it was a cool little thing. And then then to get in the car and Hopley car and go, you know, not very long forty five minutes, or so maybe an hour up to Montreal where you know, the place was just celebrating him was kind of a cool experience. Yeah. Were you there at UCD three when he fought Matt, Sarah? I was not at that one. No, one twenty nine the one that I was not there either. I only went to the only place I saw George. I saw George fighting in Montreal a bunch of times the dick the as I think the Carlos Condit. And then maybe I saw him in the I'm not sure if some other some other ones as well. But but I did not see Toronto. And so I was the first time I saw George saint-pierre fight. I was trying to figure this out when I saw this news this morning, and I realize I don't even remember it. But I remember I looked at his record. And he his you'll see debut was you'll see Forty-six, and the reason I know I saw him fight was that was a fight headlined by two title fights to very distinctive VR Belford knocked out. Randy couture to become the the the light heavyweight champion in less than a minute and right below that was the welterweight championship of the world. Matt Hughes defending BJ Penn. The former that time former lightweight champion and BJ Penn upset him to become the champion. Now. George saint-pierre fought on the the main fight of the prelims and and won a unanimous decision that the beyond with. I don't even remember all our Emmers. I know I saw because I watched that entire fight card there. Five UFC, welterweight champions. Wow. That fight card. You had Matt Hughes had BJ Penn. You had George saint-pierre. Carlos Newton was on that card. And also, I believe Matt Serra was on the fight car. I'm trying to think I've took a note here. I think it was. Yeah. Matt Serra as well. I mean, it was a pretty crazy card Frank MIR fought there was a if you go back and look at that, you know, that was a pretty notable thing. But there was I don't remember the people forms at all. I knows a two fights later. He was challenging Matt Hughes for the title. He lost that fight. And then of course, a couple years later came back in one, but I did see his debut. Of course, I probably today. I'll go home and and rewatch it on on fight pass. But it was it was notable notable debut, Greg. Where does he stand in your greatest of all time list is number one? Are you John Jones guy? Anderson Silva guy, I gotta I gotta figure it out. Exactly where I do have John John's number one. I just think overall he's basically dominated everyone. He's ever faced in the one loss should not have been a loss. I mean, he literally bloodied. The guy's entire face up before what about the the black clouds. Well, that's the question, and Jeff, and I were talking about this earlier where GSP lands, you know, to me John Jones the best all time. But then he has you know, the the issues overall. So I mean in the same thing with Anderson, you never know for sure on that either. So you know, when we were talking about best ever, you know, you could go fate or go Anderson John Jones GSP, I guess you can make the case for Dimitrius space and everything he did. So I mean, it's kinda tough to figure out exactly who is one through five on these on this list here. But yeah, I mean, that's what I was gonna say two GOP, which is just you knew the guy did the things the right way. There's no issues outside of the octagon with this guy. You know, he wasn't a big trash talker. And I think that's something you've got to respect with with him. I wanna ask Jeff where he stands in your greatest of all time lists. But you know, it's funny because Georgia's retiring and usually when. You retire? You get a little older that means you lose some hair, and George doesn't have a lot of hair. But that's I think his own choice. He does the old hell wanna you know, he cuts it short and keeps at high tight. But I think if you wanted to he could let it grow. If he did have trouble letting it grow he should call her friends over at. The music Daniel keeps dot com there. It is Dan, I think I think we will come up there. It is. There's that song. I need the song. You know, it gets make cited guys as you know. And Greg doesn't have this problem because he's like fourteen years old, but Jeff you, and I can sympathize losing hair sucks. Right. Starting to go. Guys. I don't know if you know this but two to three guys will experience hair loss by the time. They're thirty five thirty five you got twenty more years, Greg. You're good. Introducing keeps the easiest and most affordable way to keep the hair. You have these FDA approved products used to cost so much. But now, no thanks the keeps. 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Go to keeps dot com slash anime. That keeps dot com slash emanate. Keeps is K E E P S dot com slash may. That's a free month of treatment at keeps dot com slash of a make keeps hair today hair tomorrow support them because they support us Jeff it is the greatest of all time. I think he is. But I think you can certainly make strong arguments follows the guys, you know, John Jones is certainly been the most dominant guy. But then you go back and see Anderson Silva, and then you know, certainly fade or gets a get some people excited. I would say those are the those three in Georgia. The are the the big ones four. Is your arguments for any one of those guys you also I mean, I I guess Dimitrius was another one, but I'm just gonna leave it with those four. And so the way I'm gonna arrive at George being number one is by process of elimination. We can cite all their greatness, each one of those guys, George John Anderson fate or make a list you'll see a lot of greatness, right down to less. But now, let's eliminate some stuff. John Jones PD drug test failures enersen Silva PD drug test failures. Let's put that aside fate or a million echo. It's a little bit sketchy with him. But the fact that he never fought in the UFC, I think is Mark against them. I do recognize that that at the time. He was coming up in the sport, the the pride fighting championship had had tremendous some heavyweights. But you know, unfortunately for him. You have see is and has been the major league of. Mixed martial arts for a long time. And unless you fight the majors if you don't compete in that in that in that league, you're always going to have some people questioning how great you are. And so I'm going to sort of push him aside as well, George doesn't have very main negative. I mean, he he took them to times to get to the title. But the second time he fought Matt Hughes. He really he he took them out in a really beautiful way. Then he has his big, you know, failure against Matt Serra, but he comes back and smashes him, then he you know, he goes on and even what nine title defenses, then when he walks away he comes back what two and a half years later was it to take out this thing. I mean again, you can make arguments for all those guys. But I think that when you add up the positives. And then also take away the negatives. I think you end up with George saint-pierre, I agree with you. I think the fact that he ventured his own. Only two losses helps. I think the fact that he has no Asterix helps. I think the fact that he walked away twice as champion helps to me. It's it's kind of a I don't know. It's it's a bit of a no brainer. If you want to say, all right. John has never lost fine. But it's hard to overlook that other stuff. Right. I mean, I'm not talking about the Matt Hamill fight. I'm talking about the second DC fight and UFC two hundred it probably comes down. But you know, what I wouldn't hate you. If you say comes down to DC GS P or Dimitrius, although Dmitri's loss, Henry pseudo. So I think he kinda gets exceeded these Jones twice. I mean. Right. Once once not officially, but I mean, you can certainly make all those arguments any one of those people the cleanest, the only clean in terms of PD's like the cleanest argument is Georgia's right. Absolutely. There's no question, and this probably shouldn't count. But I can I I would be hypocritical. Why didn't acknowledge that at least counts little bit for me? Georgia's just been a gentleman of the game and. There's something about something about that. That I should that factor. Always shouldn't fact it probably him. But there's something about watching a guy who's gone about things the right way all the way through his career, and you know, Johnny bones is I've had great interactions with with John over the course of the years Anderson Silva's, well, you know, I have an actually had the opportunity to interview fate or, but, but certainly I've understood he's always been gentlemen as well. But Georgia something some like, there's some intangible thing about George that. I think just just makes him special. I agree. But we're also watching cage fighting where people are punching each other in the face. So I don't think being gentleman matters as much, but yes, I agree the cleanest come over there. Greg. I know you're trying to couple times a little bit of air of relied. No, I I agree. I mean, you it's hard to put what say Jones did pass your mind. I mean, it just it's difficult, and that's how I feel DC too. I think you can make the case for DC potentially. But I just can't get those two Jones fights out of my head. No matter no matter what he was potentially on. You know, it was pretty decisive wins there. So it's hard to do that. I like what you're saying about him being nice guy. But this is like an old school media thing that the baseball writers, always get your right right right about who they voted into the hall of fame. Right. All the people who hated Roger Clements. Yeah. So I I'm acknowledging that that's in my mind. But, but I do have to sort of push it aside when I'm thinking about which one because like I said all these guys I've had good interactions with all these guys other than having not really had much to do with fate or. But certainly I've seen him, you know, interviewed and seeing him around enough to know that he's also done done things the right way. So so, yeah, I'm knowledge ING by also saying that I really think it's really about other stuff, and we also have Artem above about to fight in bare knuckle. Don't don't don't do this. Why would he do that come on? I mean, we're trying to have a series conversation here. And you throw it Artem above with all due respect to the, you know, two minutes for roughing. Yeah. Okay. Well, let me ask you this. Because I think it is interesting if George saint-peres career started a year ago, right and it ends up the same twenty-six into same victories. Same type of opponents is he as? Is he as popular as successful as he was when his career started back in two thousand four because I don't know if George saint-pierre with his demeanor, his personality and honestly, his fighting style gets over the way the fans of today. Are attracted to emanate fighters. Look at today's you have seized completely different than you have see where he reigned. What do you think this GNP have the same success because we know this game's all about getting the fights? Right. You gotta get the fight to get over with the credit. Does he have the same success talking about starpower starpower getting put in title fights, getting opportunities to shine? All those things. I don't know like Tony Ferguson fifteen years ago isn't having as much trouble. Getting title fight on a ten eleven twelve fight winning streak is just a different game. Right. It was much more of America ksi there were way class just a different game. And I'm wondering if a guy who doesn't talk trash who isn't flashy outside of the case. I mean, he was known for being one of the first to wear suits to press conferences, then I think that race some eyebrows while he's taking it seriously professional, but I just wonder if George saint-pierre gets the same kind of love and today's you have see you're probably right. I mean in terms of actually getting those fights, I think it would be more difficult because Dana would look at him and say, oh, he. Doesn't what is really do that surpasses just success in the cage? He needs to have some of the other things that Connor has. For instance. I do think though now a days with not to pattern backs with ESPN backing it now in the sport on the rise. More fans are getting into it. I think his star power could be technically bigger now than ever before a young sport back then when he was really thriving. Now, you know with all the extra different types of forms of media there. It could push him to that level that he wasn't before. Maybe, but we are in the entertainment era as much as I kind of hate that in some ways, I recognize that that's that's where we're at and George George had fights that we're pretty entertaining. But then he also had some that that some people would would not look at that way. And I'm thinking that you know, you you brought up our our employers, certainly there's more people just because of so many peop-. Watch ESPN. There's a lot more people who are going to be exposed to see who never would have given it the time of day before. And so we would I would characterize those folks more casual fans, and and if you're a casual fan, and you are not as steeped in some of the intricacies of the sport. You may not know what's really going on when when when GSP takes guy down and then slowly works as way out of full guard into half guard. And then find its finds a way to work as way decide control and find a way to do all these different things. And you know, I just recently went to a fight down in the making sign the belts are ones. And I was. Kind of like surprised because it'd been awhile since I've been one of those fights where I was liberally listening to the fans, and there are a lot of people just really just wanna see people bang. They just wanna see they wanna see you know, that Brian barberie and a fight against the scent. They locate that's what they wanna see not. And there's nothing wrong with those fights are awesome. But the to see somebody do things in a kind of a technical methodical way the way George would would take apart as opponents, I think it would have been a harder sell in this era. I I agree with you. But do you really think it's not much different? I bet you back years ago. People still wanted them to go and bang. You know what I mean? Like, I remember they would him. I see one twenty nine the fight against Jake shields fifty five thousand plus like it kind of ended on a bit of a weird note. You know what? I mean, he hurt. His I in that fight. No, Jake, her design FA, Jake GPS design one of them hurt their I it's been a while. But anyway, the point was the crowd was like restless by the end, you know, and and there were some fights where the crowd was kind of saying. Like come on George for the kill. There was the Dan hardy fight where he went for the submission and heart. He couldn't get this emission in the fans were a little bit annoyed about that. But I think the consensus seemed to be after the Matt Serra knockout that he started to play it safe that it changed the way he was he didn't go for the kill as much and that could very well be true. And he's talked about that in the past. So I don't think it's crazy to say that maybe he's not as popular today's you have see just given the way the fans are and also I think personality plays a lot into it. Like, he never talked trash. Remember when he walked into the cage and went up to Matt Hughes and said, I'm not impressed. I'm not impressed by your performance. Exactly. Good job on that one. That was like such a big thing because that was like the most trash Ocoee, and he came out later and said like he was kind of his English wasn't good and heated meet to be that that route. But he literally walked up to Matt Hughes and said that to him right after victory. And that is that is a line that is being repeated till this day apologize for the. Talk in the history of next March Lawrence. Yes. And he apologized for it. Today's you have seized much different. One of the best things. Dana white has ever done as a promoter in my opinion. One of the greatest like it was a stroke of genius was I remember him being in Montreal and saying that George saint-pierre was the most popular Canadian athlete on earth. Meaning you go to anywhere on this planet, and you know, you give people a list of famous Canadian athletes G P is the most popular one. Right. The one that everyone recognizes a knows this time when when Merrill amuse still I'm not sure rescue still around the had retarded both retired actually. But this created such a stir on Canadian sports talk radio. I remember like TSN sports all of them were talking about it saying how crazy GOP was three even said Bret Hart was a more popular Canadian and more successful Canadian. I mean there was and it created such a debate that I thought it was brilliant daynuss part because it put GOP over. And put him into that conversation. Right. Right. It may not be true. And it probably Gretzky Gretzky Gretzky wrote amuse Lamia, and I would even argue bread hardest bread heart. But that was such a smart move. So, you know, I talk about how the relationship clearly deteriorated. I thought that him doing that really put GS p in that stratosphere, and they did a great job back then to push him like they put him in every opportunity possible every big card possible to make him into a star. So I think you'll see deserves a lot of credit as to when you talk about. Jeez. Legacy and how popular yeah. They'd promote at the hell out of him until until the until until things kind of deteriorate. You're right. They're they I remembered that remember thinking, even I was as a as a fan of the sport was like was he crazy? And, you know, not even thinking about the fact this is Dana being promoter. That's what he's supposed to supposed to build up his guys. And but I remember thinking guys insane. You know, that's that's a biggest biggest piece of hogwash ever. But of course, what is what is talk radio. Uh-huh. All about is like somebody making some outlandish statement, and then trying to support it. And then somebody else trying to to refute it. That's what makes makes for that debate. Let's give a shout to our sit with a six stand for. That's an information stats information group Zafy at the end, right? Thank you Daniel. Sid combat. So the stats and information group hideous peon. Here's some interesting stats as far as GOP goes. And just approved as how great he was. He is the most wins and title fights in UC history. That's thirteen if in fact, it is the end, which it will be the end come tomorrow, he would finish his career with thirteen straight wins and overall fights tied for the third longest streak in UFC history. How about this one towards saint-pierre win twelve known fights that went to a decision tied for the most wins by decision in UFC history with Diego Sanchez, and by far the most wins from decision without a loss and UC history. And that's also twelve the next closest would be Ryan Bater who went nine. No no with decision victories. Most takedown lands blinded in UFC history. Ninety GSP number one number twos. Glazed Tibo, eighty four two meters. Johnson seventy four G P is the only fighter new seawall trade history to have landed at least one thousand significant strikes. According to UC stats in total one thousand two hundred and fifty four Tagore Elvis, by the way, has nine hundred ninety nine amazing. And here's one more for you. George saint-pierre lands chew point three nine strikes. Poor strike received the best rate in UFC while trade history. According to UC, stats and. That is number one. Come loose Mun is two point two eight Ludwig two point. Oh, two. So some stats for you. If you want to understand just how great cheese P was I talked about the announcement that they were gonna start that union the M A alongside caned Alaska's Donald Sironi TJ dillashaw urine Remmy that thing lasted like five days, literally. But Greg lemme ask you now that she's going to walk away. Would you like to see him champion more of those causes more drug testing unions revenue sharing things it's he's clearly well-versed clearly interested in that. But he was sort of knocked once he got back. He didn't push the issue anymore. Like, he had all this levered thin push. It would you like now that he is going to be done. Would you like to see him do that more? Do you think he will do that more? I personally don't think he's gonna do that more. But I think it'd be a great idea. I mean, the fighters need people to back them up. I mean, you see like almost every week. Was like somebody feels like they got screwed over in shot or finances or anything like that? I mean, I do I do think to have a name like him all time. Great. Backing this thing would be a great thing. I don't know if it's his personality and his future plans to actually go and keep pushing it I wonder also if it's you know, he's going to walk away from the sport than than he can walk away from the sport. I mean, he's not you don't see him on. On the telecast, like we see, you know, whatever dominant Cruz Daniel karma, and you can go down the list of all the fighters who have who have transitioned even many of whom are still active transitioned into broadcasting. You don't see him in some of the other areas. I I feel like I feel that that ship has kind of sailed for for George, and he he gave it his his effort. He let people know what he thought the sport needed. And you know, look where we are. There's there's no, you know, the whole idea of fighters fighters union, I've kind of given up talking about that as well. Because it's not in my interest in the fighters interests have to have some kind of union in half the time. We we talk about fighters saying, you know, I really wish I had this had this our wish that you have give me that. Well, hey, man, if you want to give you something you'd better get it. Right. And you shouldn't be asking them to give you something got you. And so there's a lot of reasons why. The fighters need to be you know, it's in the fighters interests, the do the do this. But I feel like George George put out his put his name behind it for a while. Now, it's time for him to step away and do his own thing. I wonder if he'll again like I said he will always train, but he's at TriStar regularly and kind of interesting that he posted a tweet yesterday with him and his longtime head coach for as a hobby and said after all these years we remain undefeated in hindsight. I think he no I think we know what he meant at the time when I saw it. I was like, oh, that's just a nice photo between two old friends. But I wonder if he's more active there, there are some fighter's that he has taken under his wing over the years, you know, like Frenchies Carmel he would always be at his fights and whatnot. Were you guys at you'll see to seventeen the one at Michigan's Michael bang were you sitting outside? I was. Yeah. You remember him staying a little longer in the cage. I was watching from the back. But you remember him staying longer took knowledge the fans. Yeah. I think I think he was there a little bit longer. I mean, we're in the middle of like, right? Eating and getting everything out there. But you could tell he was there, and he was pretty motion. You remember that Jeff were you there? I I remember I remember the aftermath of it where there was there did even though it took a what it was like two weeks or so before you actually walked away from that belt. It seemed almost immediately he would hit accomplish something and a lot of times when when a person has Bruce buffer yell out and new and the belt comes to somebody. It seems more like a beginning. But when this happened with with George it felt like there was some kind of closure happening. And I didn't you know, certainly, I didn't know the time that he was going to retire. And that he would never fight again. But it certainly seemed to me as though he had accomplished something. And now, he was you know, he was if not writing off the sunset he was at least going to bask in his accomplishment and see what comes next. Yeah. And of course afterwards he announced that he. He would he was battling colitis because of the extra weight that he gained and he was sick. And that's why he decided to walk away for a bit. Although I don't think he ever had really any intentions of of defending that title. But to the best buy knowledge the colitis the stomach issues have nothing to do with his desire to walk away. Now, it's really the fact that he could not get that fight against Habibur mug made off. So he walks away as arguably be the greatest fighter of all time. Certainly the best welterweight champion of all time of with the win over mad Hughes when he became champion at sixty five. Of course, the greatest upset may be of all time. He was on the receiving end of that. I still believe is greatest upset of all time the Mets fair wind up sixty nine. Yes. Make sure avenged that at eighty three the first event in Canada, the first event Montreal the bell centre was just absolutely deafening. When he won that fight on had many big fights in Montreal the cost. Check fight at one twenty four the Condit fight the the D S fight the Jake shields. Fight in Toronto. Of course, the first champion versus champion fight in UC history. Against BJ Penn at UFC ninety four just an unbelievable career. And I feel like we could talk about him for very long time. But that announcement again is going to happen tomorrow. Thursday, ten thirty AM bell center. We will be there so excited about that. And my understanding is he'll also be honored at the Canadians. Flyers game later that night at the bell centre as well. So congratulations suggest Pena phenomenal career. And I'm very curious to hear what he has to say. And I will admit them a little because I do feel like this is the end of an era and the sport. There aren't a lot of GSP's left from that era that I think may be attracted a lot of us to the sport. And certainly for me as a Canadian as a Montreal are. It's a it's a bittersweet moment. So I think he could be very active till this day. Like, I think he could be a lot of fighters in the of C, but hey, like Lennox Lewis, another great Canadian, by the way. But that thinking that you said, yeah, that's the problem that I think a lot of these guys think I could still beat all these guys. And that's the problem. They don't walk away. So I think that George is smart. He's done it twice now. Yeah. He's he's realized the first time that he was he wanted needed separate. And he did it didn't say retire. But he's he needed to step away. Now, he's prepared to actually say retire. And the fact that he didn't say before, but he's going to say this time, I think this is good good for him. And it's not just the fight game thing. Right. I mean, it's sometimes it's the thing that we kind of make fun of the fight game about. But like, let's be honest. It's a sports thing. Like, no one walks away on top, Michael, Jordan. Couldn't do it. Right. I mean, the greatest Willie Mays couldn't do it on eighties in the midst could be one of those guys who could do it. But like, it's a very rare thing in sports when you're champion. That's why think DC's not going to do it you're doing so. Well, you're champion you're making money to just walk away. Like, this is an incredibly impressive feat in its own right, right? It's also he did in the cage, it's not athletic, but to walk away like this in sports like I can't think of many guys who walked away quote unquote on top. I'm trying to I'm trying to think here who did that though, it doesn't happen. I mean, rocky Marciano. Walked away from boxing undefeated Floyd Mayweather walked away undefeated. But but he keeps coming back doing all kinds of weird things. And you know, he he even he, you know, he's not going back to boxing. But he, but he can't you can't quite get something out of a system needs something, you know, an MA. Jeez. I don't even know of who's some guys walked Chris Lytle walked away on a win. But he's come back to bare knuckle fighting. I mean even Kobe Bryant like they didn't even make or did they make the playoffs. They lost last game against the Utah Jazz something they did nothing in his final season. Right. There were kind of so the gray manning Peyton Manning walked away after winning the SuperBowl Diddy. Yes. Yes. With the Broncos. Yes. Is that correct? Daniel. That's correct. Okay. That's our resume the NFL guru it just different with them. In may though, I think just because you're literally people are trying to beat each other up. And it's so strenuous on your body that you could keep going in the NBA. And you know, it's obviously really tough to do that physically. But I just think enemy is different. And you don't want to suffer potential, brain damage and. Whatever else long-term, you know, by keeping yourself going just for the sake of going. Yeah. What a great fight. That would have been him beat though. Oh, just stylist moving wins that fight Jeff. Well, I guess it would depend on when it when it happened. And what George looks like on on the way ends being? I think about it. You know, he's last fight was one hundred eighty five pounds. This is one hundred and fifty five pound. Yeah. That's thirty pounds of a guy. Who is we look I can lose thirty pounds, and you won't even notice. George George is like leading me, and he's going to lose thirty pounds for the way ends if he came on the scale and looked you know, pretty good. I mean, I actually thought TJ dillashaw looked pretty good when he stepped on one twenty five and looked what happened to him. So he's gonna put a lot of that back on. Yeah. I actually, you know, down with one sixty five by the way. Yeah. I don't care. What do you think? They're weights would be when they step in the cage. Well, it depends. What they if it's a one fifty five or one sixty five I actually was in favor of the 165 not for a belt. Remember mad? He's fought voice Gracie at a catchweight like old guard versus new guard. That's the kind of fight that you don't need a belt for my pinion. You know what I mean? And so I understand that a wanna tie it up in Habib's. You know, his time is very valuable you want to defend the title, but I wouldn't have painted it. So it would have been one sixty five. I wouldn't be surprised if he if he walked in one eighty five you know, what I mean? But as your question, I know you I was I like to dance around and invade your questions, usually when you asked me these. Tough ones. But I think that George has always had more tools than hubby hubby certainly knocked down Connor in that in that fight. But, but I don't that was kind of a shocker I don't think that I don't think progress expecting the rate that kind of thing. I think it would be I prime GSP worse. Prime of EIB. I'm going with GS p where p is right now. I think it'd be a damn close fight. Who would I pick? I I'd probably pick George really think. I would he's more of a gentleman. So yeah, it's fine. I don't know. Maybe you know, today would pick George. I would go back to this fight was happening November MSG every God I would pick George and then I would pick. I really think it's what do you mean you pick Georgian hubby because I was back and fall I would really was right now I'm saying George, but if we what if we talk about this again like nother another week. I would be like the other way, it'd be great. Yeah. It would be super interesting because like Connor I mean, you knew he was just gonna be able to get taken to know is going to get taken down. I don't know. That's really that's because that's the whole thing. Can't he take them down? And then beat him up in a ground. Pound. That's what does he malls people's? I don't I don't know. I mean, I it's really tough who's striking is better. I think you'd have to. Give pizza. Significantly. That's not even close. Right. And I think that I have wrestling maybe maybe better. But, but it would be damn close GSP as you pointed out from arg, great stats and information group, the he's at the most take down you'll see history. I mean, of course, he's fought a lot of fights. But still I mean, I think that GSP hubbub is in his prime GS GSP would be a little beyond his prime. So that's a factor too. That maybe would fall in in hubs. On him. But man is hard to imagine. Yeah. I mean, I what I said George I'll stick with it. But, but I I swear like tomorrow, I might like think I don't know he never could be able audience can't see this, by the way, I Quin sedately. I'm wearing my much oil expert Expos sweatshirt, and this has nothing to do with us people. But it does seem somewhat city I'm actually salivating at the idea of these two fighting each other just like us talking about it like stylistically, it's one of the best fights, right? Because b is just so relentless he so dominating on the ground. And then of course with his take downs. I don't know if he gets Pete at the ground Nygard with you his striking is better jeeze piece striking his better. Gosh. Kind of shame. But on the other end like I think it's unfair to the Fergusons of the world. So we we talked about doing a story on this awhile ago about the never actually came together. This would be yen that list absolutely discussed never put together, actually. Yup. Absolutely. Okay. So that's the Morrow. We just have a few minutes left. We again, we do the whole episode on GS, but some other breaking news yesterday for supported by Bren Okamoto VPN, the has decided to move ahead with the middleweight division, and they have booked an interim midway title fight between Israel to Sonya and Kelvin gasoline right now that fight is scheduled for April thirteenth that. Is. You have to thirty seven no six. Yes. Six very confusing. Six. However, it doesn't have a location yet forever. It's worth I'm hearing Atlanta's been discussed Houston has been discussed Abu Dhabi was discussed. But once Abib decided he would not fight that was knocked off the table. Miss gee, was discussed but no longer in play from what I'm hearing in any event. It's an interim title fight. We talked about this couple of weeks ago on the show and we've been talking about it for the last couple of weeks. Jeff, lemme ask you, I did you see this one right with the pairing with booking now that we know the Whitaker's out for at least the next few months until maybe July August did they get right with the pairing? And did they get a right with the interim title fight? Well, you know, you know, how I just spies interim, title flies. But in this case. Both of these guys were promised a championship fight. You know, gasoline was supposed to get the challenge of that guy cancelled. And Sonya was was put in that fight with with enersen Silva and said if you beat Anderson Silva, you're gonna get a title shot, so incense you have see, you know. Paying off the the debt to these guys. Now, I know that the OC often doesn't come through there with the promises of the issue to their fighters. But in this case, they're giving these guys what they promised them. They would get in terms of the fight it self. I mean, it's it's the fight to make how what other fight is to make. If you're if you don't want to wait for Robert Whitaker than you have to have these two guys fight, and it kinda solves another issue. Which is let's say you decided, well, we're just going to wait for Whitaker. Whether which one of these guys do you give the fight to Sonya certainly was promised a title shot with his last win. But I would have given it to gasoline. If it was if Whitaker was going to be defending his bell. I would put gasoline back in there, and I think out of sign you scream bloody murder. So the way you saw that is the put those two guys in there in the winter Feis fights sweater. I would agree. And I think I'm with you that interim title fights are really horrendous. And hey when that is. Together. That's the seems like the perfect time to do it. I don't think Whitaker should be stripped because he had a collapsed bowel. And hernia like every time is not says that by the way, like I cringe like he that sounds awful. Like, I would never wish them to me, by the way. What about two weeks in Rhode collapse bowel for Whitaker collapsed lung for puff elder and how about Sergei Kharitonov? Yes. Nailed in the groin kinda growing. We have those three injuries were laid out in front of me, which one do I want. I don't know. I'm not going on ESPN dot com. Yes column. That's a great one. That's this Opole for us. There's our next poll on the but highly ton of doesn't require surgery of any kind. No. But but he did get hemorrhoids as that was not. I was like that was that was not a pleasant experience by any means. Just just going out of this. I would say just Whitaker should not be stripped. That's not that wasn't in his control. It's like he's refusing flights. The guy literally fought multiple rounds against well Romero with a broken hand. It's like it's not based on toughness or anything like that. And I know Dana loves him too. For all that. I do think this is probably the mattress to make. I would feel horrible for Calvin gasoline. If just because of what happened to Whitaker us, Amir, here's hours away from fighting for a title and just because outta Sonya is the hot rising star that he gets passed over. I know boy New York Rick thinks it should have been outta Sonya over gas lem. I'm with you, Jeff, I think Aslam just because he was ready to go. He should have gone the shot, and you could always find something else. Right asana. If you didn't wanna wait. This is the fight to make this point. I was looking I was looking last night just to see who else can really have a shot and at the top of the list who else who else besides these guys is deserving. This is split his last four wideman. Lost four or five. Romero's lost two of three it is this is this is the fight to make. And I think there's going to be some pressure on China. Just because he like I said he is this fast rising contender and gasoline. I think has a lot to prove as well worried that he's coming back to soon. No. Because it didn't seem like he took a lot a lot of damage in the Anderson Selva fight, I agree. And this guy is like wants to fight all the time. Some crazy number in terms of say after the fight that I wanna take a little break that I've just fought, you know, what was it five days a year space. So you gotta take the opportunity because now he's able to come in there get the interim title, and that could set up this Whitaker fight that we've been talking about that. I think the you of C once best. Yeah. And you're right, Greg. You can't take the title, whatever. Even though he has never defended the belt that he won in two thousand seventeen but he was prepared to when when you will miss wait last year. So so even so that was even though he's he's had two fights where he's drop dropout. He was he was he waited and he was ready to go. And and so so you you can't count that lack of title defence against him. Because it wasn't his doing so. Yeah, I think it'd be hard to take the belt and how about this nugget from Kelvin gasoline yesterday. He wanted fight on April thirteenth of two thousand thirteen six years later to the day. He's going to fight finally hopefully for UC. Title. So it's been a long road for him. Hopefully, he's healthy at a son, you're healthy. And we'll finally get that fight. Then Whitaker comes back. Are you confused about something was that the top season against against your whole? Yes. So it's so he's in a sense these nother another guy who's like flashy kinky. You know that kind of thing. So and and I remember back then thinking, you know, this this kind of like sort of meat and potatoes, kind of basic wrestler, guys. How's it gonna fair against his flashy striker while he just took them took him out of his game? And so the the blueprint is out there, and we'll see whether he can do that against out of Sonya who I didn't think was the guy that I don't think he should leapfrogged gasoline. He did not he defeated a legend. But he did not defeat a top ten fighter in. Instance, forty three years old he's not in his prime anymore. So I think it would've been different if Israel went in there and knocked him out. I think there may be would have been a little bit different discussion. If he was he showed himself to be on a clearly different level, right? It'd be different. But when you fight the guy was not a top ten guy. And you know, I mean look on you fought beautifully and won the fight. Clearly and all that. And he deserved the accolade that come with that. But I didn't think it was a performance that would allow should've allowed him to leapfrog the guy who was sitting there waiting to fight for the title. So this is this is kind of best Lucien come up with this is again as we said a couple of weeks ago. This is when you really should institute in title for reasons like this. So they got a right. I know we all roller is, but in this particular case if you look at it in a vacuum. They gotta right last quick thing before we go. We have two minutes left. I'm still shocked that people are saying that Francis and gun who didn't knockout came Alaska's. I don't feel like he's getting the credit that he deserves on this one my crazy. I've watched this clip a million times now, and I don't understand how people don't see the fact that. Him and that led to his knee buckling. Like I understand that his knee. Did a weird thing. Also, let's not ignore the fact that he walked out of the cage on his own. But like it was his power and his punches that led to that is the community not giving respect to Francis here. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I I don't wanna use references going to go over the heads of of our young listeners. But as a little bit of a Allie Sonny liston kind of in this it where this almost like a phantom punch Benton punch from from what I was in that group DNC the angle it's full on. I saw what I saw in Gano. He land landed a very short. Yeah. The cross uppercut right hand. Yeah. That kane. But what it was thrown such where the camera angle was basically behind Cain. So you almost didn't see what was what you saw. You could see in Ghana are moved toward him. But you didn't really see. I didn't see the way it lands head like sure, right? Well, that's what I was gonna say to which is I think the angle that people are watching live. It wasn't a great view. Okay. But a million. But there's been all these angles sins. Steph still doesn't it. I'm saying that that while you're watching the thing live, you're like what just happened here. That's part of it was okay, he hit them. And I don't think he necessarily was knocking them out that punch think he wobbled them enough and the knee buckled as he wobbled. And that was the end of it. I mean, I think let's say his Nita was fine. It might it might shook him up little bit. And who knows what would have happened right after that? But once the hit him hit him enough to make the make him labile the waddling body. Yeah. The need buckle. And then then it's over so no respect from Jeff. You're on my side here. He is crazy power. Yes. And even a short shot like that. We'll send some now. Okay. So if you're the of see your Francis. Would you do next with them? Well, I think corm is still waiting for Brock, and that's the fight to make. And in my crazy to say, he should get a rematch with steep. I'm down. That's that's what I think. It should be you know, and then the winner could potentially face desire to do that or DC wants face Jones next. But I think the steep if I is the best one to make right now. I was at that one to the other is there like it was like you said that the first one was mazing. Yeah. It was crazy up the rest of the fight was in amazing steep ages. Did what he usually does. I'm very curious. And this is what I was thinking. When I watched the fight the of the night ended, whatever it is twenty six seconds in. We didn't truly get to see how much Francis really grew. Because we all know. Yes, crazy power. And he showed that, you know. So does he have better take done defense is he a better wrestler than he was when he faced steep. That's that's what I'm curious about. If that rematch. Good comes together. All right. We'll put a pin on this. Because we are at a time. I know we spent. Lot of time talking about George today. But I think it was charge of while. Yes. Well done you gonna go back to hometown. And good story. We'll talk about it afterwards. We have a lot more discusses far as what happened last week, and what's to come and all that stuff more. But for now, we're at time. So we'll talk about it on a future episode or two of 'em reporters. Reshare you guys doing this said breaking news, always fun. You don't have a lot of time to really digest. Everything is just all very raw. I was crying throughout. I'm happy that this is just audio again. Thank you very much. Greg very much, Jeff. Thanks very much. Daniel one who listens? Downloads rates comments, all that stuff and more. Enjoy your Wednesday tomorrow coverage from Montreal us peace big announcement. You're at a time enjoy your weekend, by the way, you'll see pry this weekend is to and plus Bill tour in Dublin. So a lot more discussed next week. See them.

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The Dominion Energy Reliability Investment to find out more go online to reliability investment dot com that's reliability investment dot com. Uncle. lost. On the. Field et. The bad guy. An Armed. There's no bad you. Never last. On. This Bad Guy. What's happening guys happy, Friday, and thank you for joining another special episode of you're welcome. All right. We've got three statements. All opposing. He'd get enlarge part saying the same thing statement number one from coach tavern. This has to do with conor. McGregor versus dust emporia coach Cavenaugh came out and said, it will be very interesting to see these guys. They will both be happy healthy and hydrated at one hundred, seventy pounds hold that thought could be ways in. Which says I will fight whoever beats portray I respect the outcome of whoever that opponent is by the way if it's not one, hundred, fifty, five pounds, then forget everything that I said I, assumed we met it was going to be at one fifty five great hold that thought moved to Dana White Dana says, of course, the fights going to be one, fifty, five, it would make no sense to be in the other wait these guys are not welterweight. Never fought welterweight neither guy is ranked at welterweight. Of course, if it's going to have meaning, it has to be one, fifty, five boom hold that thought. So. Then of course you have the people that come in and go well, wait a minute. This has happened before Connor ideas at one seventy or he fought. Cowboys Aronie want seventy look. It's not always the same and to act as though you're pointing finger at Dana and going ha what you think data learn something from. You don't think he has the right to learn from the past and understand the point that is important. Put Him within their vision fine. I don't even know that that's what happened. Let's say in a worst case scenario. That's what have a great Dane as guilty of learning something from a past mistake. Great. What I'm offering for you is simply this conor McGregor. Has never done anything in his career strategically to help himself. It's one of those things that he never gets credited for. Car Likes to go out and what the kids cultural and have some fun on social media. There's some real seriousness to conor. McGregor well, he has never done anything to help himself. By example, he goes in and fights nate Diaz that's a hard fight short notice fight for Connor hundred, seventy pounds weight class that he had no business being that he loses. So they say they're going to rematch but guess what corner we're GonNa do it at one fifty, five because size was a bit of a problem and you're already going up. There's no point in going to classes consciousness hold the phone by Redo. This we redo everything. Same City same opponent, same rule, same placement on the and you better believe it's going to be in the same way. Classy. Then goes and fights floyd. Mayweather. Floyd had more rules and regulations into his contract Carter asked for none. They did that fight at some weird way I mean. It's like one hundred, fifty three and a half past some weird way. But there was a lot of thought put into team mayweather. Care when do a sport that he'd never done before and a weight class that was made up there is even things in that contract that Floyd Team was very specific to write down in terms of where the gloves were made and yes, you heard me correctly where the gloves were made. There was something about a mexican-made Glove as opposed to China may glove there had something to do with Horse Air. I can't remember the damn thing about it but horse hair and it was either it had it had to have worse Aaron and or it could not have. And I remember Qatar's response because it would have been mine and Connor said, I didn't even know they put horsehair and gloves I've never known where glove is I don't care any of this crazy weird stuff you want to do I don't care and Floyd thought there'd be a back and forth and apparently in the boxing world that is common to fight over where the glovas made and manufactured and whatever this horse hair businesses that I can barely remember now other than with Sir. I bring that to you because just because I'm ignorant to the fact doesn't mean it's an ignorant fact, right? Floyd's a champion of the world, a second generation boxer and he seems to think it matters. It possibly does. Point I'm trying to make is connor has never tried to do anything to help connor never he doesn't get credit for here's get credit for taking short minute five get credit for being an interim champion and world champion another world champion who's by the way covered four weight classes I only bring this to you because of the fight asked to be at one, fifty, five guess what Connor is going to say okay. Sending he always says. Carnera greater goes out there and has fun I. Get it. It annoys you I get it. He trolls I get it. Connor says he's GonNa do somethin' connor does it and that you need to get. Just engage. He was talking about his coming up fight with could be but this Saturday and he said I am screwed if I get pushed up against the fence, that is a quote. I really liked this whole fence business talk I like it because it's just engages the first guy to come out at least publicly and identify the biggest strength of Khabib which is pushing an opponent into the fence. Right there's some things that you can break down. Why don't want to punch by this guy okay, great? Don't get within arm's reach of the guy will solve the problem. Do you see what I'm saying like there's ways to back things up so they don't happen be is not going to take just engaging down unless he pushes them into the fence could does not take anybody down. That's a broad stroke. You could find a few examples unless he pushes them into defense. This idea of could be being this masterful wrestler is simply not true unless he pushes you into the fence. This very obvious. It's been very obvious to me a guy who's never trained with Kabaeva would never for any reason ever be in a competition against Khabib and still see it. And I've been surprised that other guys can't. You don't have to start worrying about the body locks in the entanglements if you can just stop him from getting his hands locked or entangling your legs right everything back up to the most common foundation and with Kabaeva is pushing you into the cage. So I really liked the idea that justice. So aware. That he can solve. Ninety nine percent of his takedown worries if he just doesn't get pushed up against the fence. I also would be interested in that position and we're GONNA see it. We're going to see it at some point. But I would be interested if could could just hold Justin. I'm just as a very strong guy. He's a very big guy not to mention he's training now day in and day out with Kamara newsman that is the most perfect workout partner. You could find specifically in preparation for Khabib. I would think that Justin has an answer to get off the fence but as I look back over history, not Mary many guys do could be a very good job and it's very hard to see. I wanted to expect you the viewer to do an. About anybody holding anybody else against the fence right? That sounds like the cure for insomnia. But there is still some moving parts if you're the kind of guy who's into that kind of thing. Could be gets an under hook. By example, he splits the legs with his own legs. By example, right guys got two lakes beat goes right into the middle. So now we can attack parts of the body. It's like a fulcrum and he's right in the middle, but he takes his head to the opposite side of the. Hook. Most wrestlers will put their head on the same side as the under. Control that side of your body with the hook, he'll then rotate his head to the opposite side. With reason, I bring this up. It makes it very hard to get out. There's usually an out when you're up against the fence, there's usually a feel where the pressure is great. Go against the pressure go the opposite sides circle off not so fast when it's GonNa be. Under Hook is very visible when a guy does with his head is not as visible. You'll hear announcers talk about head position. But they don't then take the time to explain to the audience what that means the positioning of the head and the relevance for it. I'm only offering this to you because his justice talking about I'm screwed up I get pushed up against the fence not so fast. You're not so fat could be is not gonNA, dirty box you like say Daniel Cormet or randy could what against the fence he's going to set you up and drag you down. So you're not necessarily screwed yet. Once he gets his hands locked now you've got bigger problems once he starts entangling your legs. Now you got really big problems and once you hit the floor. Already, in perfect position because he did it on his feet. Could is not one of these guys that blast you down to the ground and goes to work from there. He does the heavy lifting while on his feet, he will get the body position he will entangle the leg so that when you late you're already stuck, that's why guys have such a hard time scrambling with could be. When you hit the ground, you need to treat the ground like a trampoline. You hit boom you bounce off it it's very hard to do with could be because he's already hooked you. He's already locked you everything's already encased by the time you hit the floor it's why he can hold those positions so well. Just, engage, he does have a hold of the right tool even if by the wrong end he is right. He needs to keep that back up against the fence and. The reason you will see A. Good Wrestler Look Okay in the stand up against a really skilled standup guy. The reason we see that time in and time out in MMA is because the standup guy is so worried about the potential of a takedown and or the threat of a take down. The whole reason that could be was able to not connor down something that Floyd Mayweather had thirty minutes to do and never succeeded at the whole reason that worked. Is because he'd already taken connor down. So now connors mind is fifty percent on wrestling defense and fifty percent on the stand up with their one hundred percent in the standup. The reason that could be who would be a subpar striker in relation to McGregor was able to strike McGregor's could compete put one hundred percent of focused into the standup while they're standing up because he's not worried about the take down. Just engaged is one of the few athletes who possess at least on paper the skill to go out and take down the bad news there is Justin is a lot like you'll Romero which doesn't matter what that paper says. They simply don't use that wrestling office they just don't. It would be a very good idea for gateway to use it. Whether it works or not. It would be very good idea to offer the threat. To make be start to put a little bit of his calculation while he's on his feet too worried about the take down the potential take down the threat of a takedown ended defenses to a takedown. Exactly. What could be did to Mcgregor? which. Is Why a subpar striker that's not menace disrespectful as a kamikaze just happens to be very good at a sub par striker was able to win the striking battle. Because Connor had to think about all sorts of different things, nobody's ever forced could be think I. Don't know that is think about anything against could be other than don't get taken down don't get taken. That kind of mindset is that. Should be the opposite should be office I'm going to take him down. The best way to talk yourself out of not getting taken down, get yourself in the right frame of mind is to just convince yourself over the adverse to the statement, which in this case I'm GonNa take down. And whether Justin succeeds or not I'm only offering to you he must in pose a threat to be of the take down he doesn't need to take down. He needs to be to believe in the threat. was really scary seeing just how much you could save on car insurance by switching to GYCO. It's almost as scary as the homemade Elf costume your mom made you wear junior high school no Gyco candy race that memory of tripping down the hallway in an oversized pointy shoes costume but they could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance stop waking up at night in a cold sweat wondering what happened to that green ones e just switched to Gyco and save fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. So. Front Center is really one hundred, fifty, five pounds. I mean whenever you have gay ci and could be the interim. But I understand the whole thing. But the other byproduct of that is the entire division gets put on display. Let's take a little closer look at this division F- Dana White was just asked recently as this morning. About George saint-pierre and it just seems as though that's the one that won't go away and if you follow the timeline of this whole could be versus GSP INSERT Dana White. It has evolved very beautifully. I mean this was one that of course could be wanted from jump street. Of course, all of the fans wanted it. It appears that it was George's idea Dana was just like man talk to me about anything else. He just wasn't interested I. Don't think he saw that happening I don't think that he believed that that would happen. But things did start to change right and that's very common with topics. You hear a topic over and over and over finally you gotta go right somebody's knocking at your door. You know he'll go away. I'm going to keep watching my TV show he keeps going to eventually you're going to go and see who the hell's at the door and what he wants. When? I look at this though. In you put in conjunction on this time scale that eventually be daynuss big pushback was real simple George already ran away with one of my belts. Twice in fact, why would I'm not? I'm not interested in that but somewhere along the scale, the timeframe. Could beep comes in and says I'm going to do two more fights one of those who already booked. That's just engaging who which leaves him with one more fight. So, if you're in the big thing that you don't want to have happened is that a championship gets put up right you just don't like just something he doesn't want to deal with, but it's going to happen anyway because you're champion is now going to do it all of a sudden that bridge comes down a Dana seem like he was a little more open to hearing this whole. George Talk. So then that's SORTA. Closer George weighed in. One fifty five seemed like a good idea and champ champ in the whole business but fifty five tough for me, and now that's forcing data to come out and say I don't know of George can make one fifty five. Dana is well within his rights to say that because Dan is going to do with George with Dana does with every other athlete he has which is to take you at your word when it comes to what weight you want to go. So. How does George Fixes? Does George want to fix it. Let's start with that. But how does he fix it? Look George Saint Peter's word is good and though he has never done one, fifty five if he calls up and says, I'll do fifty five. Great. We're going to bet on it and we have reason to bet on it regardless of what the final outcome is, and that's how that will end is George saint-pierre going to do a test cut. He will do those sometimes he has done already, but I don't know how I don't know what a tests cut met. Like by example, if you hear George, say I'm going to do a test cut to one fifty, five. Hey, I did a test gutted it worked out. Great I. Think you are false to assume that it meant he weighed one fifty five. I know several guys do test cuts, but it just gets them within striking distance maybe it's one sixty four but I wanna be hydrated and sixty four. We'll call that close enough the whole things up maybe I get to one sixty two but I am dehydrated but that was my test the only reason I bring that to your attention as Georgia's done test gut at some point. But I don't believe that Georgia's everywhere one, hundred, fifty, five pounds. And it does look like everywhere we go with this fight somebody throws up roadblocks but over time they get knocked down. Could be would like to fight George George is retired well, come out of retirement to fight you. Okay. Great roadblock down. Well. Dana White. Polka guy and he's going to run off with my championship particularly when he's already done that to me, well could be just gonNA run off championship. Okay. Roadblock down. It seems like right when we have all of the some new hurdle comes up. And it really does come back. It appears to me to the most basic question. Do you want to do you want to Fight Dana? Will you make the? That's what it appears that needs to come down to. We're not quite there yet, and as you do look at one, fifty five, what do you do with Michael Chandler? Because while people hate hate to see somebody rise and somebody get a little bit of happiness anything in life. Right. They're going to have to accept the fact that Chandler got what he wanted was his contract and he is now in a waiting position of which we don't have a resolution to for him to potentially fill it on Saturday that is not done. The weigh INS of not happened. The music is not hit those speakers and that's what Chandler is therefore. But let's say that doesn't happen and he flies back home. What should he do? Who should he do it against Chandler? Himself has said Tony Ferguson is the scariest guy in the whole division. Interesting word scary. He didn't say he was the best guy said it was the scariest guy. Tony Ferguson is very scary. Guy Right I'm Tony The guy that is going to slice you and cut you up. He's just got those kind of elbows. He just does most of your elbows go fill your elbow right there. Make fist do feel muscle just covered the elbow now. Just got really sharp. Well, some people's sharpness is different. You take a long lanky guy that's got elbows like Tony for who by the way will use them on the fee on top and from the bottom who throws from the bottom who hits anybody from the vessel with the bottoms for is with Tony. And he is a very scary guy. So from a marketing standpoint, what is it? The Chandler should do who is it that he should go after? Should he be going after a guy who's coming off a loss I don't think it matters with Tony I. Don't think people know Tony's coming off a loss they'd forgot. I think the only person that knows that Tony's last fight ended in defeat his Tony. Tony Matters within that division of for Chandler's started put his focus on. Tony I. Think it's very smart. So bottom line is Chandler's next fight is going to be very hard. It's one, fifty, five they're all hard. To do you want to not steer your career and then all of a sudden, get a phone call that you're fighting Dan Hooker that you and Paul felt that you're fighting all of their right and I could play this game. All that fifty five is so hard or if you're gonNA, take a really hard fight do you also want it to be against the most known opponent? I think that that's very wise for Chandler to have tony coming out of his mouth I think it's very wise. We gotta get Tony's opinion on it but I think we do have a weight class being featured in a spotlight and it's not just the two contestants. The two contestants are a lot of fun today guys but come Monday morning. WHO's next is all we're going to be talking about. and. For the contenders in the division, they need to understand when their division is being featured the contenders and the contender ships are also all up for grabs. It appears that the only guy right now who gets that is Chandler. I think he's wise to go after Tony. Beating, Tony? That's tomorrow's problem I think that Chandler is wise. To go after him. And Ghana came out and he I don't interpret that he was very happy. Right? I also don't know that I can tell you in Ghana's mad. Here's one of Ghana's said he said. He laid out how long? Since he's been in there and he was saying like basically have been two years. Now he fought roses trip with the fight was like twenty two seconds. He's saying you take those few seconds away and roll the clock back and I haven't been there in X. amount of time. So I'm left with. Francis what do you want to do? Right Francis and Ghana has a cult like following. This guy is wildly popular amongst fight fans. But. What does he want to do? I was put under the impression and I, was put there by Francis that he wanted to wait to fight for the championship. I was then even told by Dana. White? That Francis would be taking on the winner of St Pavers DC and of course, you'll remember that was at the same time when John Jones was trying to slide to the division Dana said Look John. Jones can walk right into a title fight no problem. Francis gets to go first. So with that evidence in with those quotes in that piece of information and frankly off the top of my head but I thought that's where we're at. I thought that Francis and Ghana was waiting for the return of Steep A, which will be ta I don't know when steep as coming back and of course, you talk to Steve about that too hasty pay. You've done a lot of really great things. Do you mind going and doing the same thing a second time because it's right for this guy, we told me it's going to be the next contender I've never heard St base say no to that but I've also not heard Steve Basically Yeah I'm on board gives us a date. Let's do it so. What I'm asking, what I'm left with even after that diatribe is quite simply Francis. What do you want to do? If. You want to sit and wait for Steep A. Great but that then takes away your ability to complain about being out for X. amount of time the other side of the coin. I'm ready to move on from St Okay Great. But where is it that you want to go and one thing that I don't know that Francis knows about himself and I've never met Francis. I feel as though I know him because Clayton hires tells me about him and watches him train buddies with Roy Nelson a Roy trains with. France but I don't if I did I call them up and I'd ask him his very question France's I'll help you I'll bring a message to the fans. True very scary. I mean, you're a flat out intimidating guy you're also a bit of a gentleman which doesn't help you in this business because if you're trying to get a fight, you're GONNA have to call for somebody. The only guy with the balls to call for you is named Curtis Blades. Nobody else is calling for you. So, what do you want the US to do to push the steep thing aside and go through some guys contracts and say you're matched up with Francis that's an option but I'm asking you is that what you want them to do? Do you want your phone to ring one day and you're told what to do and who to do it with. Do you want to wait for st pay which was the impression that I was under until I read today's comments which sounds like you want to fight. I'll tell you this Francis. Call. Somebody out. You call a specific name. The fans are going to get behind that in droves. It seems to me is though you and Derek Lewis have unfinished business. It seems to me that those fifteen minutes of you Derek Lewis together I don't know that you guys got what you wanted out of that or the crowd or anybody it seems as though. That might be potential callout. But we are having a hard time if you're Francis supporter and supporting Francis when what he wants is very unclear. So Ghana speak up what do you want With all the could be talked that we've we've had leading up to this fighter particularly on this week right getting to talk a difficult thing to do on fight week could beep has media obligations which I think he uses burdens I think he's one of those guys that would rather be left alone. But. He does his part and Kinda the only time you get here from. Verizon fight we been saying a lot of things and he's been very open to the fact of the mental exercise that he is going through in the absence of his father and I heard somebody saying I found this to be very cold. I don't WanNa scold the person because I don't think they meant to be called I think their words just were. They could be fathers on the court at one time. It's not like he's used to not doing this without his dad's it well. Your Dad physically being there and your dad being gone i. mean it's totally totally different conversation. But the one I'm here to bring for you. Is when we're talking about could even all the things that he's going through not to mention a pandemic not to mention been living out of a suitcase right he's training a little bit in California then he had to take the whole team to Russian guys come there with them that at some point they play and go to Abu Dhabi. The one talking point that I've been a little surprised that has been left out is the biggest challenge. In his biggest challenge has not been Barboza and it hasn't been Conor McGregor and it hasn't been already said not even just he. The only thing that could be has ever failed out ever. Is the way the day before. And when you're going through things differently different training camps different motivations into everybody's got their own problems but can be a little bit more public and I'm just surprised that nobody's talking about the only thing that's ever beaten could even the sport before which is the scale. I. Don't know that we have much to discuss here I just want to be the one guy that's on record to call it out on the absolute. Absolute darkish shot in the world that he misses weight but it's the one thing that he has struggled with before when everything was great. When everything was going smoothly when he didn't have emotional roller coasters when he did it have a whole bunch of money in his pocket. That ten percent they took from him hurt I only bring that to you because nobody's talking about what he weighs. And he does have to beat the scale guys. There is a reason that Michael Chandler is in Abu Dhabi right now. I have no larger point to any of this. It's just something that I want to call to your attention because compete does have to fights this week. Savings everybody can beat him. But in the history of could be there's only one that's beaten them before and it's a rematch. In now he's openly talking about things are different. I guess I want to be the one guy to call it just in case I'm hedging my bet. So I can look like a genius a week from now should it happen but even if it doesn't happen A. Lot of times when could be talking about the difficulties and some of the struggles people are assuming he means the XS and the Os of gauge is suggest for you. He's talking about the other battle. That he is aware of. And I think just to have a little bit of fun and Fight Week is is so fun. There's no punches on fight week. There's no take downs on fight week. It's all talk. It's all speculative I. Think we have reason to talk and speculate about. Could be. Versus the scale. This is your welcome with Jail Sunan. Just, because everyone gets sweaty crotch or inner thigh shaping doesn't mean you have to go through life with a sweaty crotch or interface shaping. Old Spice has new below deck powder spray to help you feel drier and cleaner down below and new below deck anti shave stick to help prevent inner-thigh shaping of bailable in the family planning aisle at Walmart or online at Walmart dot com slash old spice below deathly. Now back to your welcome with jail son is what's going to happen with Shemaya of I have just appears to be one of these guys. That's red hot right. Now, that is in the media is all over the place and that nobody wants to compete with. So okay hold that thought in Neil Magny. Now, Sham I came out with a couple of clues, Flores? I. He said I to fights away from championship fight. You can argue that that's not what this is right now he says I'm two wins away from a championship fight. He says, my next fight will be either a co main event or a main event and the date of that fight will be. December nineteenth. Okay. We have a few clues a few pieces of the puzzle. Let's say that it's Neil. Magny I am saying it's Neil Magny because nobody has said yes to Jamaa except for Neil Magny. And, they'll make me as a guy who I've never recall asking for anything is now asking for something appears that he should get it. And do we have a better idea by the way? Do we have another willful participant that isn't named Neil Magny? Let's now say that it's Magni I would be interested to tremendous point if that was the main of Inner Komeda that because if you're going to go into championship fights, I can't think of anybody who has done a championship fight with how to at least main eventing. A previous show. Relevance being. Twenty five minutes, and with you go all twenty-five or not. You were still putting yourself in an atmosphere that is unique to champions and main inventor so I would like to see to. Fight. With. Let's say Magni in. event. So that we have the twenty five minute question answer. All right. Now just for the sake of conversations from my of beats, Magni, what do the rest of the guys do then? Because the big out of jail free card right now as it pertains to hot Meta my of is to simply say he isn't ranked. I have this big beautiful ranking next to my name. He has no raking next to his name and therefore. Shouldn't even be asked to fight him and moreover I'm not going to find what happens if he beats magni. The question all the welterweight tough guys out there who have found a way to not fight who appears to be a pretty good fighter all because he didn't have a number next to his name would should not matter to anybody in the history of other whether you've got it or you don't because none of us fans no. I didn't even know. It wasn't ranked until all these other fighters came out and said, he wasn't ranked and I didn't know those fighters. We're right until they came out and said they were it's a number that means nothing. But now let's say we take that excuse away. There has been so many reasons why not to fight I've seen them till I'm blue in the face I used to no guy. Leave his name out of it. Very good fighter. He was ahead of the curve on fighting. He was off doing something called Pan creation which pain creation in all fairness is the sport that today we call mixed martial arts. It even used to be in the Olympic Games. They've for reason, unknown took a sport and the name of a sport which is bankrupt and he gave it a new name, which is mixed martial arts. But this guy that I'm talking about knew how to do that. He actually owned his own Jimmy was running schools. He was just very talented guy. He knew the punches and kicks and the Russell and the submissions he's never had a fight. And the way that he stayed this tough guy to never have a fight as he always priced himself out of it. I'll fight absolutely anybody. Here's my price tag at that time it was one, hundred, thousand dollars, but the year was nineteen ninety-seven. Nobody got a hundred thousand dollars to do anything in the world of mixed martial arts. Particularly a guy that had a zero zero record and he just kept, and then as the sports started to catch up his money, he just moved the number. He would still fight anybody at any time. No questions asked as long as it was a half, a million dollars. He just found a way to not have to do something by keep on moving that number. Now why I am telling you the story of a friend of mine you guys know that same guy. You knew the same guy who swore he was so good at something but he had to be bribed in a way to come out and prove it and he made sure that his demand of the PRI- was more than anybody could ever match as a way of doing it. That right now is why nobody wants to the s which Mif they have decided that his ranking his number which don existed is not high enough. So let's say he beats Magni. I don't know what Magni ranked, but neither you guys. So I'm going to call it number eighth and nobody can prove me wrong because nobody knows what anybody's right. When you buy Beats Magni if he beats Magni and he becomes the number eight guy. Do the seven guys in front of him refused to fight him because he's not ranked high enough because that's not the argument is sits today. As it sits today it's that he is not ranked. So I know there's going to be a ton of guys with a ton of excuses to not fight Maya of winning if Tamai, of Beats Magni and then and only then gets this mythical number next to his name. So what does the excuse going to be then because you're going to have to think of one? If you don't want to fight your my and you want to be honest and just say a boom you've been excluded of the truth has now set you free. But if it's a ranking number, you better come up with a new if. I will fight unless is top five unless he's number three whatever the excuses you're going to have to amend excuse 'cause he's about to be ranked and I'm just curious what is the new excuse going to be? Trevor Wittman. Coach. Coach to just engage you came out and he said you know just engage his best weapon is one that we've kept hidden. And he said what was he said we're Justin's wrestling justice wrestling offense Justin take down and it made me think right I mean that's not like some real great trash. That's not even some mental gamesmanship. It was just a comment made by a coach and I wonder if he's right. Because I've also thought this about just engaging here, you have a guy who is a division one all American fifth in the country. At wrestling but you don't see him use his wrestling and I. Have to tell you you don't see. Him Use his wrestling because you don't see defense. I will never get credit for defense. It's just not the way the human mind works you could watch gauge go have ten fights in never take anybody down and come to the conclusion that he did not wrestle. What a little more trained I will say well, you just didn't see him wrestle because he did it defensively. Kabaeva has never beaten. A guy that could be has not gotten on top of just engage. He has never had a guy get on top of him. So. It's one of these things were E. is there wrestling? He wrestles every single night but he's wrestling defensively. Russell's to keep the match on its feet Josie although was another guy that was just fantastic at wrestling defensively, I would argue for you and many of Said, the George Saint Pierre has the best mma wrestling of anybody to have done it. I would agree with you on that I would remind you that Josie Aldo had just as good wrestling his saint-pierre, but it was in reverse. Josie although just too good of a job of stopping people from taking him down as saint-pierre did of taking people down. So sometimes, you don't see it. That's not what coach Whitman's talking about I'm aware coach women is talking about Justin going out using his wrestling and getting a top of could beat. I highly suggest that he go and try to do that whether he gets there or not I suggest he try suggest offer the threat and I like that theme. But. philosophically speaking it does make me wonder. Does Justin still have good offense because wrestling is like any other tool you are not keeping it sharp it goes Dole, and then it goes away. If you keep that in the drawer long enough thinking you're gonNA bring it out just for their it's not the way that it works now coach Whitman would know. Because he sees just another practice room. He sees them going with great wrestles like tomorrow Zeman. Does he see justin changing allocation and blasting the double does he see them closing the distance getting under AP- pushing you into the fence? All of that is wrestling. And all of that is used by beep. We will get that under hook walk you into the fence. Go to work from their starting tangling the leg started looking at his hands wrapped around her body. I mean there's things steps that could be does though It is very fundamental and it is very by the numbers. He will not get to third base before he touches I, by example, saint-pierre will come. Hit home run all at once. The setup, the explosion, removing you from your feet, using gravity and putting you on down. He will do all at once in a big explosion but CBS not that way. He's GonNa get the hit to first base then he's going to steal second he's GonNa come to third before he looks to see if they're waving in for I'm just saying you can throw off any of that order you can change the entire thing. Just, engage, he does not have to worry about a takedown and neither does anybody else quite frankly, and that's a bit of a broad stroke with how could be pushing you into the fence i. Beams Weapon of choice from the open is ahead of the outside single. If I was explaining to you guys what a poor choice of technique that is I think it would stunned you because you have so much respect for Khabib. I. Would never even teach an athlete that technique. There is no reason even in the one. Oh, one of you gotTa start somewhere to have one leg and have your head on the outside in. While on your knees sharing for you could be technique is so sophisticated and so high level if he pushes you into the fence i. And I think that some of the fears that just engages team is having while you listen to them talk they are very aware and they might be the first opponent whose aware. That the big threat comes once we get pushed up against the fence and now you're a question. is done a good job of identifying that for you. What do I suggest Justin do because the thing that could be does so well as he walks you down. He will march forward a pretty soon there's nowhere to go. You're back. It's the fence of Bom. He's right where he wants to be. So what do you do with a guy like that? and. You'll have some sports guys that tried to sound sophisticated and they said well, circle circle and use the circle then stupid. In theory yes. That's the answer in reality not all athletes can move laterally. Not. All athletes can circle. So for talking just engaged, show me one fight where he's ever circled. It seems like the easy fix. It's what people love to say. Well, you know keeping the punches either guy needs to get inside. You'll watch these guys that breakdown fights going to be. How did you even get a job here? You ever say keep a guy at the end of the punch. You ever find yourself saying he needs to get inside you need to quit your job. There is no point to that. How do you not get wet? Well, don't get the rain. Okay. Thank you. Does anybody have anything more sophisticated say and look at some point these guys are both going to come at one another. Just engaging does a good job of keeping fights ugly. He's not a beautiful fighter. Beautiful fighter and combat would be like Roy Jones that uses a ton of movement tricks, opponent hits and hits him gets out of the way Floyd Mayweather would qualify as beautiful. But these ugly grittier brawler types like just engage. You're very fun to watch but you have to remember what makes them gritty. Justin will threaten you with knees up the middle. It is one reason Tony Ferguson utterly failed to take just down but he also did not make very many attempts he had to respect that, knee. Every time they got close boom gates. He's bringing that knee they get a bit tighter boom engages bringing that elbow ugly dirty. Active. I would really really disagree with anybody that thinks going to change just engaging in. It's a very common thing for coach to do a coach studies, you studies your opponent he decides that your opponent is better at what they do and he tries to change you as a way of getting ready for your. All you do is up making a guy. Worse. You see college athletic programs do this all the time they bring in some blue chip or they give him a full ride and then they want to teach this athlete their philosophy instead of realizing he so good at his own philosophies that we paid for his schooling for it. You see it all the time then that athlete ends up washing out. You try to take something that was so good at what he did that you were willing to buy it, but then you try to change it with your own ideals. It's arrogant it's foolish and it never works. In engaged came out and he all of a sudden he's trying to circle or all of a sudden. He's switched his feet from South Padre, Orthodox and switching back and forth because some coach had a bright idea. This whole thing's GonNa blow up. Katie is doing in the octagon to win championships including the when he has now stuff that he learned ten years ago and could be bas using stuff to win and defend championships now that he learned ten and fifteen years ago. I bring that to you. I do not submit for you. Other either athletes should change. They are a clash of styles. They are largely going to wash each other out but the one guy who tries to overthink this get cutesy with it and gets away from what it is that got him here is going to lose. Daniel Cormack out. He was talking about the fact that he's got call beeps fight. And that he's friends with. And teammates with Kabaeva and some people surprising to me were pushing back on the fact that Daniel would call his fight. And I didn't really fully understand that only because all you can do is disclose. It's a very small. It's a very small world and all you can do is disclose there is nothing you can do and I've been on Daniel spot where. He just started with the disclosure. Hey, by the way in full disclosure, this is my teammate boom you move on from there I trust Daniel will do the same thing but even if he doesn't take that time, he's already done it. He's already come out publicly and said I will be calling. Could Beeps fight could be as my teammate I only offer that because there's no influence that Daniel has there are three separate people got a three man announce team but then you have another team called the judges they are not within the same team by example, Daniel Cormier check will be signed at the end of the night by a man named Dana White the commissions will not. Just by example, when I offered to you that they're separate but it does remind me of a time. was talking with a judge. Douglas Crosby and Douglas said that judges are always put in a position where they're not to have any kind of contact with the fighter. But the judges much like the fighters also do not. Make their travel arrangements themselves. They get booked. So then when they get to the airport and a van pulls up. And puts them in the van. There could be athletes in the van as well as members from the company, as well as members from the commission at which point it takes them to a hotel that they are assigned to that they did not set up. The same hotel where fellow commission members sometimes employees of the organization and sometimes fighters are also staying and then a lot of times and I've been in these firsthand the hotel will do a breakfast at it comes as part of your stay. One of the highlights by the way these hotel breakfasts with all good so good but you all go down and you. All eat together you have to do it at a window. There's a specific window of like seven to nine. Am By example, in the breakfast close up and you have anything else to eat. That is the food that they were serving and when you're in a different location, particularly different country where you don't know anybody and you don't have a car to get anywhere. Make, sure you're at breakfast on time as it could be very important it could ruin your whole day. If you're not there to get some eggs when they're serving the eggs, I only bring that to you because Douglas was pointing this out to me of look. I have to have some level of civility and no. I can't sit down and start to have meaningful conversations with these athletes that I'm then going to go out and judge, and if that happens, then must go and disclose that to the executive director of which I had breakfast with this guy. Today. I was sitting there but he came up and down he asked me a question. I answered this question I say whatever it is you then do have to disclose. Daniel Cordray as an announcer follows under that same obligation. I. Don't think he has that same code of ethics. I don't think he does anybody any more than what he's already done, which is to say I know Khabib. In, fact further that thought I'm friends with an teammates with be he has no influence over the fight. And I've seen Daniel have to call other guys that he's very close with Doron wind comes to mind. Doron win is fellow wrestler Daniel Cormie as the head coach of Gila Highschool to Ron. Wynn is the assistant coach eguren highschool not to mention that their friends and they worked together in that capacity they belong to the AKA. So there's no secrets here and I don't see that there's any problem with going out and him calling his fight I think it's above and beyond to disclose. I think the disclosure is very appropriate. But from an ethical standpoint, it is not where morality standpoint it is not owed. It does seem appropriate though and it's been done and you know the best piece of advice. I ever got in the sport as far as commentator to call in a fight I was handed by Joe Rogan. And all JOE, Rogan simply said to me and I remember where I was when he said it and you just said shale if you ever call it a fight, say what you see. Nothing hard stop. That was it. He did not add to that. He did not go on from there. I was able. I could probably write a whole chapter on a book of say what you see, but that's what announcer. It means if your guys up there and he's throwing sloppy jabs, you don't go. Wow that boxing shirt looks crisp. You say what you see. I. Think he could use I think he could work on his hands if he's given up take downs too easy. Say that. I feel as though he did it offer enough resistance on those take downs just say what you see. If you're calling somebody that you know all fares, we all know each other. I know everybody in the sport of Emma. I talk about Neil Magny all the time I've never met Neil once no neil, I feel as though I've met Neil for some reasons, our paths and across and I bring his name randomly to you but it's a very small bubble. And you know that fans the fighters are extremely accessible. There's no sport in the world where the athletes are more accessible. Fans can go on social media contact and interact with any athlete they want and other sports. They will encourage their place don't go on social media, the NFL by example, the NBA they've had to have meetings that guys we can't stop you but we ask you don't go on social media. They're worried the guy, I'll say something or hurt somebody's feelings or maybe have a drink or two and put out an image that he wished. He would take 'em as just always been treated different from Dana White Scott? Coker just use those examples they encourage you to go talk to the fan. Form a relationship. Educate. Them. Hope they come on board and when you're up next hope that they stop what they're doing and they're tuning in. So when I say that athletes are more accessible, they are. They're accessible to us now imagine each other. Daniels got a relationship with just engaged. Daniel used to be a wrestler gauge who was a wrestler Daniel was a fighter gauge was a fighter Daniel, goes to US's GEICO's these I only is he supposed to disclose that? How far do you go you meet a guy you see him in pass it. How far do you have to go? 'cause whatever that answer is, let me just put us a blanket statement. Now, anybody that works with anime knows all of the athletes that do MMA. Whether. They've ever officially sat down and shaking their hand or they just known them at a distance or friends with his coach or he knows his mom and dad everybody knows everybody the world is just that small does Daniel OAS disclosure. Sure it's polite. Did he already give it to us. Yeah. Of course it is. Okay. If I ever made the statement that if just engage, he brought twenty one year old justin gates, you wrestling skills to the fight with Kabaeva that could be would never take him down. If I made that statement I misspoke I must tell you in fairest I don't remember making that I thought. I thought this is what I said, but it's at least what I meant to say. Is that gauge would be able to scramble and what could be getting down what wrestling would signal two points would show some control. It would show that the guy has left his feet. Now he's at minimum to his, but a maximum is to his belly or even his knees that would be a takedown, by example, for broad stroke purposes. Just engaging could then scramble, he could take that situation elevate and all of a sudden come back to his feet turn and face them they both got their heart rate up there bowl tighter they're both sweat, but that's what wrestling is. All wrestling means is to move. Now, a point system has been implemented over the years by the NC Double A. or by the United States Olympic Committee by your governing bodies in your high school and your hometowns a point system is all wrestling means to move if one guy wrestles harder than the other guy, it means he moved more than the other guy did. If this to wrestle is going to be a really hard match. It means my opponent moves a lot and that's really what a scramble is an just engaged at twenty one years old and with those wrestling skills would be able to scramble. Causing a scramble in causing somebody's heart rate to get up is something no opponent has ever done to Khabib. They've put all of their effort in out of fear and fear alone from being their feet to transitioning to the taken down position, and then they've stopped they now go into defensive mode of let me shut this guy down from doing damage to me conor McGregor himself said or at least his coach that they're going to their. Fight with Khabib, is, should we lose our feet and lose that position? We're going to stay there for the duration of the round and we will be saved and brought to our feet by only the bell that was their strategy they respected and feared that position so much I meant whenever I made this statement, I meant to say the gates you could forces scrambled, but moreover, I was trying to illustrate the point that you will lose that. That weapon will go very doll that scrambling weapon the great wrestlers that were great at wrestling. But can still do it in our the is that still practice at day? Frankie Edgar. By example was a very good division. One wrestler for Rutgers got away from his wrestling. He was scheduled for a fight with year Rodriguez back into the college wrestling room. where he got thumped on. He did not score a whole bunch of points but he was able to sharpen that he was able to learn to shoot and then reshoot a wrestler will lose certain things very quickly over a period of time one of their things their ability to reshoot. In wrestling, the first shot is only used to set up the second shot and the second setup shuts up the third, which is what actually gets to take down. But it shoot reshoot and that is the level of conditioning that will go away if you don't practice it the same as to be said for the scramble. When you were taken down when you hit the mat that needs to be a springboard hit that boom I spring off it. And I can tell you this as an observer of the sport I can tell you as a coach of the sport, but I can also tell you as an athlete within the sport when I separate. Myself and my training from pure wrestling, which caused a shot reshot, which is a condition, an energy ended of itself and that you will only have by doing that. You could go on wind sprints for an hour. You could train cardio and run five miles a day. You are not going to have that conditioning to shoot reshoot to scramble to have what's called a counter offense use his shot as a set up to my own shot. He uses that to switch I use that into a bay we go into reversal shane wrestling goes away and as I go back to the example of Frankie Edgar when he started buckled down and go to that wrestling if you go watch is fight with your ear, which was not it was a very hard fight, but it was not an overly close fight. But it had to do with the timing issue and it had to do with the cardio issue that Frankie brought to that match that you're just couldn't match and you can only get it one way which is the practice room, and when you have some of these older fighters, they really have to humble themselves to go into those practice rooms. First off, not very many people are wrestling out there. That are any older than twenty two years old. Whether you go find the local division one school like Frankie. Did you go down to a junior college? Now you eighteen nineteen year old or real commonplace to wrestle with just high school. But now you're in there with fourteen fifteen and sixteen year old generally a grown man who's seen on TV and everybody wants autograph and picture doesn't want to go get his ass kicked but that's what's going to happen. You can be one of the toughest most durable guys out there. If you're not interested in every day and you put yourself in one, you're going to be humbled. If you can get over that humbling process, you can now sharpen a tool that you're ponant is not gonNA have because he was not willing to do it. Guys are very reluctant to go back into wrestling rooms one because they're going to get beat to they're going to get beat by people who look up to him in three of those guys that look up to them that are young being or kids. But it's a reality. And I will maintain for you that if just engage you twenty one years old was to be taken down by Khabib, Justin would force a scramble. It would be one action to another action. The Way MMA guy seemed to be as once you force that initial action of taking a fight from the feet to the ground, they generally stay there. Or they go into a guard get nobody gets submitted. The the guard hasn't submitted anybody in two decades. You seen guys tap out, they just wanted out of the fight. It's very rare that submission actually works. The Guard was not designed to work to the a five minute round. To the point that went hoist Gracie and the Gracie family implemented Jujitsu, they're very specifically did it with no rounds. It's not built for speed. It's meant to wear somebody that's what it's designed to do. So when you see guys start to pull guard your see guy conceding I get up. I don't know where justice stance today but I know a twenty one year old. Justin would find a way to get up. 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And I put that in correlation to the fact that he's got to do it again in two weeks. This is weird or is this super cool. I mean it's one of these things where you're stuck not being able to identify exactly why this happened. This speaks to an internal code about Tony. This has nothing to do about money. This has nothing to do with fame or competition or fans or media. This is an internal reflection into Tony. Ferguson you're either a good guy or you aren't. You're either a man of your word or you're not. I've talked to Tony Privately. A couple of times about his success in the sport and his answer is so fast and so simple. It's not deep and complex and sophisticated mental toughness west coast mental toughness. I've asked him multiple t trying to gain some insight. Maybe something I could use as an athlete. Maybe something I could pass on to somebody as a coach. That's all I get out of him. Mental toughness this was mental toughness. This had nothing to do with anything else. Look if you're solid you're just solid guy you do things for credit or you do things for attention. That's okay too but that's a little bit different than what we saw here. This was about none of those things that this was about a guy who said he was going to do something he did his part. You control what you can control and those are nice words but as human beings. We generally don't do that. We let something else affect us. Something from the outside affects what we do. And how we do it. Tony Ferguson controlled. What he could control. Said it was gonNA make wait anyway. I met a guy one time and it was a big money guy and he gave a lot of money away a cool thing to do and he corrected me said No. He said a lot of people say that and I appreciate it. He's a by actually do it for me. I actually do it selfishly. It makes me feel good. I don't actually give that money away to help someone else. It makes me feel good okay. That's a very interesting concept but I tied that in. Because you're talking about an internal CODA guys either solid or is not Tony. Ferguson is solid. I'll tell you these weird times where we're not getting a lot of new content anytime you turn on it. Could it could be a digital device. It could be your television set. You're watching something that already happened. Well in that vein christly been versus Anderson Silva which happened many years ago. Two thousand seven was just put out so I saw that fight trade Chris'll even for that fight it was Anderson Silva's debut and we didn't know much about Anderson Silva other what we read online like. He was doing fights in Japan and whatnot. You couldn't even get on TV here but then you you check shirt off the next day and he won eleven seconds and then he fights again and Anderson Silva beat someone and twenty one seconds. It kept being these fight. He did like four or five of these that were just remarkably short and fast fights he up. Having a fine time Anderson. He ended up having a fight in some small off brand show but he took on Jeremy Horn and Jeremy Horn who fought largely on the underground circuit was also a absolute legend on that circuit. Germany Horn would have a fight on Friday night. Drive two states all through the night with no sleep and Gov a fight on Saturday. He did this all the time he put like. Fifty wins in a row together. Some crazy so he and Anderson go have a great fight but Anderson Beats Them. So Anderson's got this big name a big buzz. But he's making his debut kind of making his television debut let alone his promotional debut. So I remember Matt Linlin. Who WAS Managing Chris? Lebron I remember Matt telling me we told Joe Silva we will fight anybody else. Just don't give us this. This guy and I remember on that told me that being really surprised because Matt was such a believer in Chris leave and that was a believer and all those guys but matt was moreover a believer in competition. You compete with anybody period. You have something that you can prove great but if you have something to learn that's fine too. I remember when that told him. What am I missing on this guy? This guy's just gotta had a few fights online. I haven't seen him either so they go to. The fight in Edison controls the fight so after they air this some media member went and interviewed Christly. But all these years later when interviewed Chris Leman about that fight and leaving was so funny. He said the first time he knocked me down. I remember telling myself. Just stay down because if you get up. Nothing good is going to happen but I wanted to give Anderson a clean win so I got back up and let him finish and you might think. That sounds like revision history knowing Chris. Leave and the way I know Christly. But that's exactly what happened. And he said that he was at dinner after the fight he was at dinner with his step mom and he made a comment to her. I can't believe that fight happened tonight. Kimberly but went that way and she looked up and she simply said that fight was yesterday so he was a little out of it. But one thing about Chris's career. That was so interesting. If you go back and look at it you will find this fascinating just on paper if you just go look at his fights on paper blow you away. Chris'll even was such a striker. He thought he'd made out of concrete. You just simply couldn't hurt it. Which is why it was so remarkable when Anderson did it was. It was a stunning thing. Anderson Boom Bust on the scene. And just like. We've been reading about Anderson only on line. He putting everybody away in a very short amount of time. Okay well now he's on TV and he just did it. Get against a guy that doesn't get put away but about Lebron being a great striker he was actually the wrestler killer. If you go. And look at the winds he had even on the underground circuit. Boyd Ballard OUGHTA Wilson come to mind if you were a really good wrestler you did not want to fight christly. Aaron Simpson name comes to mind. Lebron just had a way of staying on his feet of staying away just enough Bom Bom Bom. He was last guy that any wrestler would ever want to face even though his greatest skills were in the stand up. If you go look the guys. He had problems with both were fellow. Stand up guys. I don't know why very interesting but if you're a wrestler stay away from Chris Liba Michael Bisbee one of the toughest guys to ever stepped foot in the cage. One of the toughest men alive right now does not live life with regret and came out on his show and he said that he had regret for taking the Kelvin. Gasoline fight. Now I believe him. I didn't know why the hell he took that fight win. He took that fight. But let me just remind you guys of what he's referring to okay. He had a mega fight against George. Saint Pierre for the World Championship Bist Ping's World Championship. Bist being put online. This thing doesn't have the easiest time making one hundred eighty five pounds which is very relevant to the story because the gas LEM fight was three weeks after he lost the belts. And now you're talking about not only the physical druthers of being there with George saint-pierre roughly fifteen minutes. You also have the emotional letdown of no longer being the champion of the world so to even be asked to take a fight on three weeks notice. I would suspect before they made that phone call to Michael. They probably thought yeah. We're going to get to know but let's let's get to know and then we can move on. Hey all right now you guys come up with two more names. Bispinck says yes. I mean you wouldn't even ask a guy who went through what he went through three weeks later to fly to a different country by the way that fight was in a different country. I WANNA say Japan. That's off the top of my head definitely in a different country. I remember that much and then go take on a hammer. Younger up and coming ultimate fighter winning Kelvin Gas Lem. He's want to do that now. Little tiny bit of a back story. There is Kelvin. Had worked out together at some point the thing I would suspect that basement prior remember that workout. I'll be fine. I'll go take on that. Fight the problem. There is what I just laid out. He's on a letdown physically. He's diminished. That fight took a lot out of them a mental emotionally. He's diminished and Kelvin. Gasoline doesn't go very hard at practice. That's one of the tricks. He just doesn't Calvin gasoline. We'll go as hard as you want to go. But he'll always let you make the choice. Which is why he's so damn deceptive at any rate that's a little bit of a sidebar but it's something I was armed with. I had trained with Kelvin. I competed with Michael and I remember when he took that fight knowing what he was going through those highs in those lowest I understood it. I just understood now. He's gotTa make weight again while going to be jet lagged in a foreign country. Oh and by the way it's a main event it could go twenty five minutes. It was he off just too much more than he could chew. It was a sign of his toughness. His mental toughness has competitive this. They're all sorts of praise. You could give this being but in hindsight is not where you can see how fight ins. You could see how this fight ends. As soon as they said. This fight was going to happen three weeks after he got in the cage with George saint-pierre okay so he also talked about that. Saint Pierre fight he said. Look saint-pierre new. I was blind in one eye and he targeted that side and left me with two questions to just personal internal questions first off. Did George know that I would be curious? Can we confirm that? George knew that I didn't know it. That didn't come out to later. Post career Michael. Very open to talk about it even done some funny stuff with the. I showed everybody what I'm saying is did George know that. And secondly if he did. Would George be ethically wrong to go after that and this is very heavy stuff? This is a very heavy topic is are amongst the most important thing in my belief the because the one thing that can't be fixed they just science wise they just don't have a way to fix is yet to replace is right of all your organs so. I bring that up because you're talking about something very sensitive and I'm still left even the coldness of no now. I don't know how you would target in either. I just personally don't have the skills to. I have a hard time finding a guy's head usually I would go to the body just because it was an easier target fight i. I don't have that skill but if I did would I use that and I would think that when you're in a competition in front of the World War One manage trying to hurt you under the unified rules and you're trying to damage him under the unified rules. Yeah Yeah I think a guy. Would I think if the roles were reversed and we just ask? Michael Hey Michael if George had an ailment and you knew about it would have you attacked it. Yes or no. I think Michael would probably smile and say yes. There's enough uncertainty to go around right now. Net sweet reduces it by giving you visibility and control with so many critical decisions to make. You need the right numbers and you need them right now. Net Suite by Oracle the world's number one cloud business system with net sweet. We give you financial cash flow payroll inventory and more all in one place so you have clear visibility and total control of Your Business. 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Jones is hesitant. Well first off. Let me start at the very beginning with my first every time. Dominic Reyes speaks every time. I'm interested Dominic res- I'm not sure even has the ability within him to not be a real guy who gives you some kind of behind the scenes information that you believe to be sincere true and accurate and it's also interesting which pisses me off about Dominic Reyes. Because he almost never talks. This guy is batting a hundred percent when he doesn't interview. And you gotta wait a month between interviews and I don't know why I don't know if people aren't calling. I don't know if he doesn't answer his phone I don't realize it. Maybe he's got an anxiety likes doesn't do it. Maybe he doesn't know how good he is. Dominant Grey is made to be interviewed particularly on Camera. The dudes handsome dudes young. The dude speaks well on by the way he happens to be interesting. It drives me crazy. How Little Dominic Reyes? We have for as good as Tomek rate is is. I'm not talking about his skills. We got that about coming out and getting people interested. I've of course I wanNA see that rematch. There's no fight for John Jones that I want to see more right now than Dominic Reyes. I feel like I'm speaking for us all. Yes that's the fight to make. There's no no wonder dominance is now revealing to us that that's the fight. They're trying to make. There's no wonder but it drives me bonkers at dominant doesn't understand. He's very interesting guy. I these matters I want. I'm giving them a compliment. We need a little bit more. Okay now let's break down. What he said is John. Bean has yes. I would take that a sincere. Is John Wrong to be hesitant? Now I don't think so. I realized that playground rules work and John Jones always comes around. This isn't the first time he said noticed something but then he agreed to. He's the champion of the world. That would like to fight if he is not offered another fight. He's GONNA multiple reasons. John is going to agree to this. I'm just sharing with you. One this is the only fight you're getting offered. You'd have to go to the fight but if John wanted to say hold on just a second. Let me give you another idea k. Blow Hobich is ever bit. The content of the Dominic is and behove which fought more recently hobich one more decisively. He's coming off a win. You're asked me to fight dominic. He's coming off a loss. Not a terrible argument side. The world's greatest argument when it's Don's one and only lost some people thought he won by the way it was for a world championship. But it's not a bad argument and a John said. I'm looking for new blood. I'm not looking to look back at a record that I had where I fought the same guy multiple to I want to fight the new and fresh guys. It's not a bad strategy particularly if he added the truth. Which is I barely won that fight. That was a very hard I barely want but guess what guys I did win it. I did win it. Don't come out tell me. I've scared to do something then I've already done. And don't think you're GONNA make a sucker argument and telling me I can't be the guy who I just beat. Those are strong points by John. I have a feeling he's not making those points. I've a feeling he's probably acting more like a dominant come on. Yeah a couple of rounds. I came but you'll give me a Hobich. There's a real challenge is probably trying to play the wrong psychological games. He would be a lot better to come clean because there is nothing wrong with that answer. I barely got. That was one tough night out but accept the result. Because I did get through and I'm GONNA move on. We'll see where this goes by larger point to Dominic Reyes. You doing something wrong my friend. I don't know if you just don't answer your phone. I don't know if you don't respond to Texas. I don't know what it is but there's no way that people aren't reaching out to you for interviews. Perhaps you just don't like to maybe you've got a little Nick Diaz inside you and you just don't enjoy doing that stuff. You're very good at it and every time you do it you get closer to what you want you come out and use a word like hesitant hesitant is a great word to us about John Jones. That's not insulting childish right there. That's not you crying because you didn't get your way hesitant. It's a great word. It made for a great headline and it made me more interested in a fight than I already wanted to see. Leaked near got a question about a podcast that you did a couple years ago since there's nothing going on in. I thought maybe we'd reminisce a little bit To hold her. Do Your interview with Rainn. Wilson. I really enjoyed that interview and I know you're really excited to do it as a fan of weight. I think that might have been the first interview that you did for a celebrity maybe outside of the world of mixed martial arts and I'm just wondering how that had an effect on your podcast career if you have any stories that came onto that interview. Thanks so much yeah worst interview. I've ever done and to your point. I'M GONNA use this in my defense. I think I think that was the first interview that I had ever. I'm not an interviewer. I didn't know about myself until I tried to interview people. But I'm not an interviewer. I like to have a conversation. Hey how's it going? Boom guy takes it from there. Boom I fire back. I don't like to be the FBI that goes through the questions. Once you get your answers you hang up and move on. So rainn Wilson White Sh- route from the office. I couldn't be a bigger fan like I had a fantasy that if I ever met him in real life I would walk over and I would just say two words which is thank you. I have found so much entertainment for him. I have found him so funny. So he's managed by Mark Schulman. I work with Mark Schulman so go to mark. Hey Man I got a podcast. It's really big rain. Dwight right was just starting a brand new show an ABC show. I'm losing track of what it's called in my head. But he was out there doing media. I said you gotTA line this up. I'd love to talk to this guy. Put a show over. It's going to be fun so I don't know him though right. I don't even know him as Rainn Wilson. I know him as his character. Dwight shrewd so in other words. I don't know very much so I go do research and I stumbled on something called wikipedia. Which is on something called the internet which is apparently not accurate so I took notes based on what was on his wikipedia page wrote them down and asked him the questions. They whipped terrible and he continually corrected. Me That is not true. At which point I never fessed up to where I got the questions because I well aware that you can't just trust what's on the Internet. Let alone wikipedia. I just thought for a guy of his level. He would have taken the time to go in there. Someone on his team would have to go in there and corrected. Apparently I judged that wrong so then out of nowhere because all of the questions. I don't know where you got that. Well that is inaccurate. Everything's going wrong to a guy who I wanted to impress so then I out of nowhere realize it just jumps in my head a clip that I had seen on the news earlier. That day about fracking. I don't know what fracking is at the point that I asked. The question has something to do with something and it goes into the ground and it really doesn't matter. I heard the word fracking and it just out of nowhere comes out of my mouth and I go. What do you think about fracking to which he calls me on it and goes well? That's a weird topic change and he answers the question and I remember actually hat. My sweat hands where actually sweating. The interview went so bad. I never went back to Schulman to go. Hey man it was really great. Here's a clip. 'cause YOU HAVE. Could you have him tagged me on twitter? I let it go. I know Shulman would hurt it. I know someone would have thought I was a doofus. I knew to never ask. Rainn Wilson to be on the show again because he thinks I'm a doofus and I thought it was behind me but you brought up and that's what happened with currently no NBA NHL and no MLB. You might think there's nothing to bet on. Well you would be wrong because our exclusive partner bet online still has hundreds of events games and props to wager on from their online casino to poker. Blackjack let them bring Vegas to you if you're missing the NFL. That's no problem. That online has live daily Madden. Nfl Twenty simulations. You can wager on if you're into the entertainment betting you can also still bet on survivor. Big Brother American idol stock prices. And even the Nathan's hot dog eating contest guys. They're open twenty four hours a day and it is all online visit the website or use your mobile device and joined today to receive your fifty percent. Welcome bonus all you have to do is use the Promo Code podcast. One Bet online your online wagering solution. So right around the corner April twenty-sixth emission grounds coming back incredible card. But let me just talk about the main event real fast. We got vinnie taken on Craig. Now this is the match that has to happen. There's no promotion here. I'm just filling. Everybody in this match has to take place. It would be a travesty. It would be like member. Would Matt Hughes wanted to fight Anderson Silva but there are different ways? Didn't make it happen. Or when there was talk of Anderson Silva and John Jones by the different ways and this is before the champ champ thing and so it just didn't happen you look back. Oh my goodness that would have been amazing. George saint-pierre Anderson so here's the Silva's the common denominator Disney but boy those would have been some spectacular fights. Anderson was the guy that went to seventy years is a guy that went to two five. He was the guy. That took over. One eighty-five you could see. Were moving parts involving him would have been interested in. We didn't get them. It would be the same thing if a period of time went by in Vinnie and Craig went at it and the world of grappling is very small much like Emma. Most guys know one another whether it's from a camper a training session or way back in the day at some tournament or they ran into each other maybe further along the line at Abu Dhabi which is a big term with a whole bunch of guys. These two have never touched. I don't believe they've ever even shaken hands. They have just stayed a park and a big idea was to get them together. Because there's a three way going on. He Got Gordon Ryan. You Got Craig and you got vinny. So Gordon beat Craig. Vinnie takes out Gordon but Craig Vinnie have never gone at it and many people believe that. Craig is the greatest Nogi grappler alive. He's got a very good claim to believe that I can tell you as a guy who sees all the numbers he is for. Sure the biggest star he is for. Sure the biggest draw now. He brings the entire country of Australia with them. That doesn't hurt anything but either way I will openly be the one to tell you. He is the most famous grappler alive but the best. That's what this is really about and right now with Vinnie. Having a win over Gordon Gordon's last loss. Craig likely not to compete with Gordon again. Because now their teammates Craig's way to make the claim to not only the most famous but the best to get by Bennie. So we tried to do this. Which would just give people a rough idea and it was a tag team match so then brings in Kyle. Craig brings in Nikki. They do a tag team match. So whatever happens in that match. You're not really going to be able to go okay. It's Craig he's the best or okay. It's Vinnie. He's the best but you're going to get a glimpse you're going to see them. At some point get entangled. We do the match Nikki. Rod Starts Vinny Starts. They never tag out crag never enters the competition he stays in the corner of the whole time for overtime. Vinnie TAGS OUT. Kyle comes in so three of the four got in there but the big experiment the big hope that these two guys who have never touched never hello. I'm Vinnie. They've never touched are finally going to go out and compete on some level. So this doesn't happen and Craig comes back Craig. Still Light in the world on fire. And then he's going. Hey I get it and I know that was supposed to happen but I was in there. And he never tagged in and he's right. That is exactly what happened. It's really nobody's fault. The athletes kind of felt bad about it and the crowd was an overly thrilled. I'm looking back. The rules were followed. This isn't really anybody's fault. But let's put you guys in there without taking partners. And they both agreed we we realize we realize what our obligation was to the fans. We fell short. We agree there was no negotiated by either one of them and they both are in powerful spots to start being jerks about both of them go. This is for the fans you guys wanted. Who the best in the world is Craig? Jones sits back and goes I do too and Vinnie. Sits back and goes me to. This is going to be hard. It's going to be hard on us. It's GonNa take a train and a lot of effort. There's a lot of pressure in a lot of eyeballs. But we will put it on the line. And that is what I am most looking forward to. Then if you get into the XS and os of the match. Vinny has a size advantage. But Craig's pretty wiry. Then he was focused on Craig's been focused on grappling Craig's grappling is very unique but it is leg lock heavy Vinnie as a leg. Lock master now. Craig Qualifies Leg Lock Master to but Craig is so offensive with his leg. Attacks Vinnie is a master of defense. Just naturally on top of being an expert. Just naturally Vinnie's body moves and bins in his legal bend and away. They would snap most people's his facial expression never changes because it doesn't hurt him. It's a very very interesting match and it's going to happen onsite. You're listening to your welcome with jail. Sunan listen up. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know it's easy bundling policies GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowners and renters insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around the house. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote. See how much you can say. That's GEICO DOT COM GEICO DOT COM. Right Guard recently sent me some of extreme anti per sprints and aluminum free deodorant. And I gotTa Tell You I'm a fan of both right guard. 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Don't feel greasy or sticky. They go on smooth and they last try right guard today now. Back to your welcome with jail. Sunan news came out that Amanda Nunez had pulled off of her may ninth fight with Felicia Spencer. Well let's unpack this just a little bit because a while that is true. Do I feel that? It's a little bit misleading. In this way let's start with Amanda. Amanda says I'm not going to do the fight and she came out and cited training issues at ATT in Florida. And I can tell you without even looking into that. That's true the first anything to do with combat than I ever heard that made public news during this shutdown was a boxing gym called the hard knocks gym in Florida and it was just a boxer had a key to the gym and went in by himself to catch a workout. Hit the bag shadow box. Jabr Solo workout to police officers showed up and removed Tim and sent him home now. Parley that over I talked to coby. Covington ATT which is about twenty miles from where this boxing gym was that. He says they have to police officers. Show up every single day to the American top team and clean the place out every day without miss. They tried to get around it. They tried to go get a workout police. Show Up. Please please throw them out. Everybody's friendly it's just a daily habit seven days a week over there so Amanda who trains at the Att when she comes on and says look. I'm having a hard time getting work as I just personally knew how saying it. Yeah that's I bet. That is a struggle right now so arrowhead looked into it a little bit and went to some teammates and training partners of Amanda. And they said well you know. She's also got a nagging injury. That's a quote nagging. So it did she pull up because of the training did she pull up because of the injury. Do we really need to get to the bottom of it? I don't think so. The bottom line is the champ. Says she's not GonNa do the fight but here's where I said. It's a little bit misleading. They're looking to reschedule the fight. According to her opponent Felicia Spencer for June so one month later so whatever. The injury is nagging. Sounds like the right word. If you could be ready to go in a month it sounds like nagging is the right word and if you have hard time getting workouts but you start to figure out something in between what most people are doing is just go to the garage. What most people do anyway. I mean I'll tell you. The fight fighters aren't much different. Everybody's got something in their garage. Weather heavy a weight stack a treadmill. If you're really lucky you got all three something along these lines. So I'm only sharing with you that before. Anybody is singing the blues. They're not gonNA be a man of versus Felisa Spencer. It appears this is perfectly show the opponent but I think the FELICIA would have a pretty good idea of what's going on that we are going to see the fight. We just aren't going to see it until next month and quite frankly in all fairness if you go look at the cards and may I mean if there's any silver lining to a fight fan. These cards are loaded. I don't know that we deserve to see. Amanda Versus Felicia may ninth. Here's the big question that's going around. Okay Henry Hudo versus dominant cruise. But that's not the question that's the state of the question is ring. Rust dominant cruise has been out for three years. Does Ring Rust matter. Now if you ask anybody else in the world and they don't have to be a competitive athlete. Who's tried to do this? You can ask a fan who sat back and observed this. You can ask a trainer. Who's trying to bring somebody out? After three years you can ask promoters who have booked fights media members that have covered fights if somebody sits on their ass for three years. Yes Ring Russes of really real thing. Now Ring Rust is largely a very kind excuse. The truth is a guys just not as good as it used to be. That's the truth. However with a little practice in getting back in the groove and put in a little time back into the game you can then refine those skills which is why. Somebody's able to look back and go. No that guy's not terrible now. That guy was just rusty. Okay great it's a very nice way of covering one of your favorite fighters poor performance but where that becomes a problem with dominant cruises. Dominic is the most vocal guy in history to refuse and reject the idea in premise. And excuse a ring rust. He used himself as the Guinea pig. He sat out for three and a half years have three. Acl surgeries came back. Fought the number nine guy in the world. I can't remember the gentleman's name Japanese fighter who was on a run and he was supposed to run through comic. This was supposed to be the guys coming out moment. Dominic beat 'em in twenty two seconds sat out for three and a half years comes back beats a number nine guy who many believed to be the future of the division the future face of the division. I can't remember the guy's name I don't mean there's a knock on the guy that's just what dominic did so now. He's facing three years as opposed to three and a half so now that we have all the pieces in the logic you form a decision is ring rust. A real thing before you say yes. I'm thinking it to at some point. Father time we'll just bite you in the ASS. Dominic might have done that in his earlier years now. He's in his thirties. Can he do it again? Well we don't know in all fairness it is a question but you're now questioning a guy who's already done something worse which is three and a half three and a half years out. Combat back goes on a street grabs the championship of the world. It's very interesting in that regard. Now that's before we get into the XS and os of the fight. I think it's also fair question just as everybody had you like this fight Moore for Henry. Henry versus dominated more excited to see that. Then you were Henry Versus. Although although is likely to not get that opportunity back there was a lot of things that fell into the right places for Aldo. And I was the support of that fight but I realized I was on third base. Where in its catchment? Most people did not agree with me. They were talking about the Peter. Young's an Corey San Hagans. I got no problem with any of that. Those are great talks to be haven't but the XS and os of this fight are a little bit more complex. You can talk about Henry in that Olympic Championship. All you want. He does not use his wrestling skills that much. He is not as as refusal to use them as say AOL Romero. Henry would like to use them. Henry does like to be on top. He just has some other skills he also keeps range one thing if you want to use any wrestling you have to take all the range away with Henry Striking. He likes to keep some distance which works against himself if he wants to be wrestling heavy. Okay fine I just want to offer for you before you say Henry is GonNa Throw dumbed down. Get on top of him. Beat HIM UP. For five rounds. Henry doesn't do that to a lot of guys and has never had that happen to them so I would just ask you with whatever answer you coming to that conclusion even though you may turn out to be right I would still ask you if we're having a conversation beforehand. With what evidence do you believe the hair is just gonNA take him? Okay now. Let's say so. You can see to me you all right. It's a standup fight. Well that's where things get a pretty interesting too. I don't know that Henry has had much of a striking deficit with anybody. I think in the first fight he had her the only had with Joe. Ben Evita's it was largely stand up. I think in the first contest we have problems. With Dimitrius Johnson. It was largely stand. I understand those things but dominant cruise to argue. The other side of the coin has only lost one. Stand UP BATTLE OF HIS LIFE. The only fight dominant crews ever lost was because of what happened on the feet was to cody garbrandt. I don't know what evidence you could come in and say that Henry is GonNa go pick dominik apart and less you. Just watch that fighting. You want to hang your hat on that. I couldn't stop you from doing guys. I'm not attempting to influence you on. Who is going to win this fight? I'm just trying to get you very excited. Because his fighters right around the corner and this is an extremely competitive fight and anybody that's counting dominant crews out ahead of time dominant cruises never been counted out in his life for some reason. He's putting this weird position where he's supposed to go in and fall down. He hasn't fallen down for anybody in his life. I would come back to my question to you with what evidence historically speaking history being our greatest trajectory for the future with what evidence you pick Henry if you want. You Pick Dominik if you want. But I would love a follow-up argument how why and based on what Joe Rogan took some heat. Joe Rogan was on his podcast and he was talking about how many times he'd been tested for cove nineteen and it was a lot you know he was saying you know for the last X. amount of time. I've been tested every two days or every three days and I really saw the intelligence to Joe was saying one of the big problems where people are saying. Go Out and get tested. You're hearing a lot of this. Go Out and get tested. There's two questions that I would have and there may be an answer to him. I but my two questions would be first off. Why are we getting tested for something that you're openly telling us you don't have a cure for and I've asked that question? I've gotten a pretty good answer that I've accepted. Which is no you need to know if you habits that you can isolate so you don't pass it to somebody else that makes sense to me but the other question that I have is when you say going get tested. That would only mean you. Did it have it at the time you were tested? Nobody has anything until they have it. Anything it could be the cold. It could be cancer. You cannot show me an old test and pull it out of your pocket okay. Well you're clear there's dates and there's limits so if you were tested three days ago what is to say that you don't have it right now. If you hang your hat on the fact that I was tested and I don't have it in you use that to go out and not social distance. It would seem that you're missing something. So we'RE JOE IS SAYING. I'm going and getting tested repeatedly. Is Joe Fast tracking the statement that I just stretched out into two minutes of? You do need multiple tasks. If you want to know that you don't have it. You cannot take one test and then argue this for the rest of your life that no it. I got nothing to worry about. Matter of fact I was tested and I will also share with you. There was some pushback on Joe for being a successful guy with access to to certain things and therefore using these tests on himself. I will just share with you right here. In Oregon we have to drive through lines within five minutes of my house and I saw them with my own eyes earlier. Today to different drive-thru lines guess. How many cars were each line? Altogether combined both lines none. Nobody was so this. Make believe that there aren't enough testicle around for people who want to be tested. I can't speak for where you live. I will just tell you an Oregon that is not a reality of Joe. Rogan wants to be responsible. Because he's doing a podcast right across from somebody who wants to make sure that you can't contaminate them. I think this would be a case of good job Joe. That was a smart thing to do. Joe Not a moment to pick on Joe Hiran Woodley and is he oughta Sonya started going at it. I mean that one. That one kind of came out of nowhere and Woodley wasn't kidding but let's say that he was if you're looking for headlines which are very easy to get right now if you were a fighter and you're not in the headlines. You have done something wrong when there is no fights going on and nothing to talk about. It is extremely easy to capture. A headline most fighters are looking at this as saying there's no fights going on. There's nothing happening. Therefore I shouldn't be talking about anything so I don't think that tyrone was having fun but let's just say if tyron was just looking for a headland. Audubon is the perfect target. Because he's the champion of the world is the best fighter competing today and he will always respond. If I wanted to be an headline right now. With IS HE OUGHTA SONYA. He will make it happen. Believe me he will not let anything just slide. Don't forget that he just thought well. Romero who was coming off a loss and was not the true number one contender because he told Dana White. I want to fight that guy. Don't hold me being champion against me in the fight. Business guys here. I WANNA fight. I came into the right line of work. Don't punish me because my success okay. But you're now seeing who a guy is so if you WANNA get. Somebody's wheelhouse go after out. Assigning he'll Lech in. Here's what's going to. Piss you guys off Tyron. Woodley would be a very hard match. Frana Sonya entire laid out his case because look at assigned. He doesn't like power now. Tirona seen something that I'm not I have never seen izzy. Shy Away from power including twenty minutes of sparring footage. And I caught on the Internet of Oughta Sonya you going toe to toe with Rumble Johnson. I've never seen what tyrant is speaking of. But if you do WanNa talk about somebody who's compact that's Tyron Woodley if you WanNa talk about somebody who greatly understands the footwork of his opponent. I'm talking about tyrant but I think I have evidence if you just go back and watch not one but both his fights with wonderboy Thompson. If you WANNA talk was somebody who has power? Let's say tyrod's right on. That ARGUMENT TYRANT FITS THAT BILL. Not to mention he's got a great grassland aspect any understands five rows. Look Tyron Woodley is a hard fight for Ziada Sonya. One of the harder fights as a matter of fact. I would go that far. That would be one of the harder fights the hardest guy to fight his always the guy one weight class below you. He's just a little bit faster than what you're used to. And he can go just a little bit longer because he's carrying around a little bit less weight so as endurance lasts a little bit. Let's just put the hardest guy go with is always the Guy. One weight class below you. I'm not suggesting for you. This fight is going to happen. I'm unpacking interview. The tyrant had talked about. So let's move on because he said all of a sudden he's down the road he said. Matter of fact I'm not leaving one hundred and seventy pounds till I do four more fights so there's four guys four specific matches that I need to do before I hang my hat and say I've cleaned out the division. He did not list. Who those four guys were. But if you back up to some other tyrant interviews. Recently as three weeks ago. He has made it very clear. List number one Kobe Covington. I think the tyrant in many ways has lost interest in Leon Edwards and in fairness. I'm not sure Tyron was ever interested in Leon. It was just what was being offered to him. And he wanted to go out there and get a matching and it was gonNA take a liaison. He said I'll do it. I did my part show didn't happen okay. Great let's move on Kobe Europe. I think that that's the way it played out at least in tyrants mind so let's say that he goes into Kobe. Let's just say that he goes into Colby. Whoever comes out of that is going to qualify for a world title fight qualifying for a world title fight and getting the world title fight or two different things. But that's also a discussion for another day. I believe that tyrod in a perfect world. That has Kobe match. He would have his Kamara match. And I don't think that anybody would wanNA leave without trying to get a little shine off a George Mazda at all and he would likely try to Annoy Joy George to a number one contender. But now I'm guessing a little bit. I'm guessing who these four guys are and I'm not eliminating Liane Edwards because Leon isn't a straight up stud eliminating Leeann because I don't think that's how tyrant views him if tyrant is now saying there's four guys. I'm curious who those four are. I know I'm right on Kobe. And of course we'll get back. Does he then think he needs to have match number three with those men? Do the trilogy fight proves point get to to to want to move. I don't know I'm curious. I'm not here to tell your to start something between Tyron and autosomal. They've done that themselves. I am to share with you. Should that match come about twenty four twenty six months down the road? That's a close fight cowboys. Aronie taken on Anthony. Pettus part two. Now let's back up to the first one okay at the time that that fight happened. That fight had to happen. According to the rankings they both came through. Wcw This mass just made a lot of sense. Plus we're both stand up guys so we're looking for a pretty exciting fight now. If you go look at cowboys ceremonies record or you go look at Anthony. Pettus record if you're not familiar with these two athletes and and you're just reading wins and losses and how they got him. You're gonNA think these are two submission aces both of these guys. Fancy THEMSELVES STAND UP. Fighters kick boxers. Pettus is what I call a trick boxer. Because he's so dynamic he's going to. He's going to run up the cage and kick in the mouth. Cowboys run is a little bit more straightforward a little bit more combinations. Finish everything with a kick. Aren't we we get great but this is what they like. This is their true love so they bill themselves as strikers but again if you go look at their records and you see how many guys. They're finishing by submission. Donald cerrone became a number one contender when fought for world championship. Coming off a submission win. Anthony Pettis grabbed a world championship over Benson Henderson by stretching his arm. Out getting a TAP getting a submission win if you go and look at the XS and os of the very first fight. It was a little bit weird. It was a little bit weird in this way. Anthony put US came out and he landed a big body shot and they called it a kick. But if you re watch I mean it was almost a need it was almost anita the site very attack right into Donald Ribs and Donald trying to fight through it but you can tell he's not even breathing the same. His body language has changed. His hands are coming down. He's trying to maintain and stay in this fight but he wasn't able to collect himself once read this he was able to come up with a switch. Kick boom go right back to that exact same spot. Take down double over ground and pound reference to call it off. It was one of these fights though where you WanNa give pedestal pat on the back you want to say. Hey great job great night but there's your evil side that also wants to tell. Patasse but I don't know if you could do it again. It was one of these performances where everything went so well. And it's a snowball effect. Once that ball started rolling. There was just no way to stop it. If your team cowboy. I will tell you this lead into this fight if you go back and look at the timeframe and the landscape of their first match those two had to fight if you look at everything. That's happened to both of them cowboys. Surani setting records. Anthony Pettus going to winning world championships. If you look at where they are right now. Those two have to fight again. All right guys that will do it. But we'll be back on Friday and tell them and you are welcome. Thanks for listening to your welcome with jail. Sunan download new episodes every week at August. One DOT com. That's podcast oh any DOT com. Hey I got a new podcast coming. It's called theory. This is Theo Rossi. 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"Thank you for listening to this podcast wine production now available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. You're welcome is brought to you for free today by our friends at that online. Guys you F C Two. Fifty is coming up this Saturday June seventh. Make sure you stay tuned to this podcast and hear me chat with bed. Online's Dave Mason to talk all the latest betting lines get in the mix at that online dot ag. Use the Promo Code podcast one. You're to get a fifty percent. Welcome bonus back online your online sportsbook experts and the exclusive partner of podcast one. Bad Guy, like. She. Never. Ninety air. FEE Dispirit oh. Share. Bad Guy like. What's happening? Guys happy Wednesday and thank you for joining another special episode of you're welcome John. Jones is no longer the champion. Jon Jones is no longer the champion. Because John Jones has said he is no longer the champion. I gotTa Tell Ya. I've been around for a long time I did not know it worked that way. If you can make a claim, and therefore it is so I'm on board. Guys guess what I am now the champion. If John is not champion, because he says so. I am the champion, because I said so when I'd appreciate a congratulations from you guys. Okay, in all fairness, I really would. It's taken me a long time. I worked hard to get here and I am now the world champion I. Get it, not you because I said it i. that's the way this works. We're GONNA fiercely. Adhere to the rules that we make up on the spot great but. John has had a few battles over the week. Let's breakdown a few of his battles. Okay, I. John Jones. Doesn't want opportunity doesn't WANNA main event? Needs a big carrot dangled in front of him. He is taking on a different opinion in Gilbert Burns. You'll burn, not only went out and did some very heavy lifting shocked. The world in many ways prove that he is the true dark horse that has been ignored for way too long within the division has now catapulted him into your guys as minds, and said I quote to his own teammate. In front of the world, he hit absolutely nothing. He said Camario. I respect you. You're a great guy. We're in the same division. Give me a shot I'd really like a shot at that bell. Dana look at my face. I'm fine I. AM ready to fight again in June or July, please just give me an opportunity. Don't make me wait. Nowhere in there. Did Gilbert Burns begin negotiating nowhere in there to Gilbert Burns say. Time thanks for the opportunity boss, but guess what now I turn the gun on you and no point. Did he do that? He asked for the one and only thing that you're given in the sport, which is an opportunity. So that is a direct conflict. With the way Jones. Did you decide WHO's right Jones? Then had a battle which Chuck Ladele. There is riots going on in the streets. Chocolate Ladele goes into the riots and he tries to defuse them by the way he succeeded by the way I know about this able to bring you the story because chocolate Dell, was caught by a news camera who recognized him not only from his fighting as they quoted in the report, but also from his time on dancing with the stars, which they also quoted in the report. Chuck good intent chuck succeeded with his intent diffused. Situation Got Credit for John Jones went into the street as well. He took a couple of spray cans away from a couple of kids. Difference was the news did not pick that up organically, and the news did not report it. We know about it. Because John reported. It John was able to report that through social media because he brought a cameraman with him he then when deciding, he looked good. put it out to the world, so it wasn't about saving the town or contributing like did. It was a self serving measure, which then leads you to believe? Okay, if you staged the camera, edited it and posted it. Did you also pay the protesters where they even real protesters? I would tend to think they were. But now you have to have a question. Your intent was self serving. Your intent was too good for the public. He then finds himself in a battle with izzy. Now this one's a little bit weird because when he walked away from the championship of which I have now claimed. He did it on. The guy's not being paid enough money. The argument for being paid more money was. I'm going to take on a bigger Guy Francis quite frankly as much as I. WanNa Piss on John. That's not the world's worst argument if you're going to make an argument at attempt to stand on something. Given up sixty pounds isn't a terrible argument. Does that come with millions of now? Do it or don't you want to do it or you don't heavyweight division separated by sixty pounds. There's a lot of fluctuation there. You decide if it's too much, but I'm not going to beg you to do it. Now terrible argument, but then he tried to use it on Izzy. He said he was going to come back in two thousand and twenty one, which isn't much of a threat because he's only gonNA fight one more time in two thousand and twenty by the way, so the threat is that he's going to leave. Really means I'm going to miss. One fight wants to take on is he says he's wants that same Francis money, but now the only argument that he had that was worth a damn, which is is, he's down away by the way. Why would izzy want to go up and fight Jonah scientists to smack John like I'm sure plenty of people would like to do. There used to be a championship on the line. If you come back in two thousand and twenty, one I guess is he's now going to fight me now. That I'm the champion, but the point being. Is. He's playing. Ball is looking for WHO's next. Is he saying Yes to every Opportunity Johnson? No tried to call guys in different divisions to get away from the number one contender, which is res-? Different approach you decide who's right? Joe's then ends up in a battle with his brother. He comes out and tries to make a claim that he should be paid what his brother is paid. Now you're talking about two different jobs. To completely different jobs. Could you imagine apply in that logic anywhere life you work at grocery store. You like the job. You got a good jobs job. You wouldn't apply for jobs that you were happy to get. You. Tell your boss I. Don't really have a problem working at the grocery store, but I'm going to be needed to pay. Make what my brother makes. By the way he's a hedge fund operator. He's bringing it about fifty five hundred dollars a week. Do you see the difference. How your job at the grocery store versus the head funds. Brother of yours doesn't really go hand in hand in a pretty weird thing that you even brought up cousin working reverse. If John had another brother. That wasn't a professional athlete. Would it work in reverse? Could Dana come to go John I? Need you to defend that championship, but your brother is making twelve bucks an hour. I'd like to pay you what your brother makes them. Do you see the problem there? Do you see how these are not comparable in the least, but was a fight that John chose to make you decide who's right, but this battle happened in an ultimate. You've got Jones approach versus that of you, Ryan, favor. Well in the middle of a pandemic, when businesses greatly different, there is no live gate which in all fairness helps John because it saves him from embarrassment of being a great fighter. WHO's not selling out arenas? He is not sold out arena unless people dressed up as empty seats in his last two outings. That's a great focus group. So if he could take that away pisses still different very different, so you have John Jones. Say I want to raise while everybody else is struggling. I realized that everybody else on the card is doing the exact same thing. I'm doing with the exact same dreams and the exact same responsibilities, but I'm making five million and they're making ten thousand. Screw them. Give me all the money you could do that. It's what he attempted to do. To your favorite did. which is to say, Hey, guys, I'm in Florida I hear. There's another guy in Florida. It's not my way. Don't worry about the always not ranked in the top ten, only fight commes. Main events and made of. Don't worry about it I just heard you might need somebody. I just thought I'd let you know I'm here. Going down and filling out some paperwork with the commission is no big deal I handle all that get licensed in time. Men who sought a pool and since I got to go up and wait well. That's actually good news. Because that means I'm on wait. What do you think? You see your favorite play to sold out to anything but sold. Out Arenas when. Out the, foreign yeah hits, those speakers. You have twelve thousand screaming fans spring to their feet. Can't say the same over here. You have arguably the greatest fighter time right here, not a question, not he's not the greatest. That would go to George Saint Petersburg. He gets to be discussed in it. Versus somebody in the hall of fame. You have a guy making headlines for all the wrong reasons. I the most loved fighter. Possibly in the history of MMA you decide. I'm not telling you who won these battles. The battles already decided I got my way. I'm now the champion. There's no shortage of action going on at our exclusive partner Bet online dot ag guys Nascar is back and better. Online has hundreds of games, events and sports to still get in on. You can bet on simulated NFL. NBA and UFC or you can even participate in a ten thousand dollar madness bracket challenge, a march, madness, style, NFL simulation tournament. You can enter for free, and if you're a fan of May you F C Two. Fifty is coming up. Up this Saturday June seven. Make sure you stay tuned to this podcast. You're GonNa hear me chat with bed. Online's Dave Mason to talk. All things UFC two fifty, including all the latest betting lines open twenty four hours a day, and all online visit the website or use your mobile device and joined today to receive your new. You're welcome bonus. Check out all the action. Bet Online your online, sportsbook experts and the exclusive partner of podcast one sports net. Nobody can ever just. Enjoy the high of a victory, and nobody can ever mend from a loss. In many ways. That's a good thing. One thing you want to do in sport very hard to do easy for me to say hard thing to do is you don't WanNa get too high with victories, and you don't want the lows to get you to kind of try to stay steady consistency is so important sport, but you're human being. He got these emotions. There's not a lot you can do their roller coasters this this could be very cutthroat. Go going look at Burns Woodley again so burns beats woodley instantly. What happens next for birds? Not Hey, great job. Get home to your family. Eat some food. Take a week or two off. Stay up late. Watch some TV nothing like this. What's next? Somebody? Give us an answer Gilbert. VK, give us an as her. You gives an answer. What's sex? That's the way the sport works. I don't begrudge it. That's just the way that it works with. The same thing happens for Woodley. Woodley doesn't get a lixin wounds or go okay. been out for fifteen months I got my toe back in the water here. Let's get a new match. What's he gonNA do now. Should he be retired. Should he be done? Operated within the confines of the sport whether you like it or not, but the rules that I just laid out. Which is you have? What's next the only thing that matters? What's next? I think it's a harder question for Thailand than it is for. Gilbert. Rankings came out this morning Gilbert. Burns is now number one in the rankings. I have the foggiest I the. Who Does those are? What the validity it is, but I can tell you if you can get published, it matters what number is next to your name in every fire that does not have the number next to his name that he wants next to his name. We'll tell you that the rankings don't matter. They matter which is why the fighter new them, which is why he knew to denounce and I'm just sharing with you when you got a one next to your name. In a forming division, you're a team player who asked for an opportunity? After just doing some heavy lifting against world champion man. Your wishes are going to be listened to. Will they be granted? They're going to be listened to. So. What do you do a tyrant? And I come back to guys like tyrone. I realize I'm a little redundant with the same answer, but guys. It's a great one. which is you change weight classes. You get a fresh coat of paint. The second you change weight classes. You are now undefeated in that weight class. You might not have any wins, but you don't have any losses. Look at what it did for Darren tell. Darren till slides up to one eighty, five takes on, gasoline beats. Gats Lem little more to the story till got into town. He was jetlagged, only was in town for two days when he's got to walk out and do it I mean there were some heroes stuff involved? They're not to mention. He was an underdog, not to mention it was a good fighting, and he got the nod, but it also made an undefeated middleweight. There were no other undefeated middleweight OUGHTA. Sonya was left without a partner. Because Paulo Costa was hurt, Rockholt left the division Wiedeman left the division and why those experiments may not have worked out. Wiedeman in rock hall were onto the right idea. Either one of them with a victory could have been. pull the right into a match with Jay. And it is interesting because when you look at that. In hindsight, wideman was in there with Reyaz. This right before raise was raise rock called up there with Hobich. This is right before behove, which was so, they drew the right. Guys would have catapult them, and I only offer you that even if that experiment didn't work out the directory and the philosophy. Was Right. tyronn has been talking about moving up to one hundred five, even gotten a back and forth publicly without a as recently as three weeks ago. I would just offer you. Tyron Woodley who's thirty eight years old at a world champion and shows that he's in shape. He just did twenty five minutes. That's a big deal. Twenty five minutes with now. The number one ranked guy in the world after taking fifteen months off. It's a big deal. It would be easier on his body to not have to go down to one seventy guys don't forget tyron. Woodley wrestled one seventy four in college so at eighteen years old. Twenty years later. He now weighs four pounds less than Kennedy. Let's say that. do any of you weigh four pounds less than you way twenty years ago? Go from eighteen. To thirty eight go from to twenty two. If you want go from ten to thirty, do the math any which way you want to any of us way less. So I think that shows us a discipline, a lifestyle, but also likely some struggle. He could take all of that away. Life in general would be happier. He could now put his focus fully into training as opposed to also having to beat the scale is just a very real thing. Take it from a guy who's done it. It's just a very real thing. Thing the happiness part is, would that carry over to competition. Take it from a guy who's done it, and then not necessarily there some push and pull their some. Give some take, but I do think tyron would be one of those guys that can figure that out and I do think if you're only looking for a trajectory to a championship a clear path. I do not believe that he's going to find that one seventy. It's just too cutthroat. I don't believe Damian Maya done some very heavy lifting. He slid. He lost a guilt burns to. He's not even in the talks. I, mean what a difference a day makes it just the way the sport goes. You can get that back as well. He talk about what a difference a day makes. Gilbert Burns was number six until this morning. He five spots. He jumped in front of Mas Vidal. He jumped in front of Colby jumped in front of Leeann I. Mean Big things can happen. I would suggest for you if tyrant moved up. Not only would that be interesting experiment to provide for some parody, which would also be a mental relief for him. Get some new guys. Get some new blood that you haven't sat around for ten years thinking about everyday. Just get some new faces. I would also suggest for you I don't know that he's likely to walk into a main event I. think that's a positive. I think with as many five round fights as t would has had to do if he slides into a main card likely combing spot, he's now talking about three rows, but that is a significantly different approach, and when you're trying something new, and you're in an experimental phase. There is something very. Why is about doing something hard for less amount of time? So I'm to give a prediction or a suggestion for you as to what would work and circumflex vent a lot of time and effort fourteen would, if the goal is one thing which is to get back to a world title, I believe and I will maintain. The answer is a hundred and eighty five pounds. From the whole confusion that has been. BEEN JJ lately. The one guy that came out smelling like a skunk that never needed to was in Gano for Ghana to play this. The way he did was baffling, and it will never cease to surprise me how I always fall in the same trap and give a fighter credit for having a level of understanding and intelligence within the profession that he has chosen. I for that every time I give a guy the benefit of the doubt every time listen if you were Francis Gano and you demand a whole bunch of money to fight a guy who sixty pounds smaller than you. You got a little Bitunya. And everybody can walk around and be scared of you all you want. You're a great big, okay great. You're a great big monster. Got Some bitch inside of him. You don't ask for more money to fight shrimp. You don't even fight the shrimp. What are you a bully? And what are you wondering? If if a guy that you got sixty pounds on is gonNA. Get the jump on you. He never needed to put himself in that spot. There was just enough rope that John was gonNA sewer the whole deal that John Never wanted to do anyway. The whole thing was a flex and a puff. That's all it was Francis. Let him do it. 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA get the fight as soon as John opened his mouth. You knew that fight wasn't going to happen, so don't now jump in the mud with the pig. You're both. Get dirty and the pig likes it. For Francis to come out and beat the same drum of I would never fight. John Lesser is a whole bunch more money for you're doing multiple things first off. He Sixty POW smaller than you tough guy. So what is going on there? Go ahead and explain that one for us. It's not going to be a great answer, but you're the one that put it out there. Secondly, the deals never going to happen. Only a sucker would come to the table with deal that he knows people aren't going to accept. Keep the deal. Keep your mouth shut. We're looking to do something whatever it is. You. Don't come in and make a proposal that you know that the boss is going to reject you look like a fool that's called a suckers move. And now you advertise to the people. Apparently, you're not the great competitor that they held you up to be. I have not seen some buddy. have more of a passionate following then Francis and Gano from the day. He lost a steep A. which was not a competitive match, his fans, the next day, got and lit the torches, and said give him a rematch. I mean they love Francis? But they also thought that he was a competitor that wanted to compete to come out and show this other side of yourself on a guy that sixty pounds smaller. Sixty pounds, plus all those picograms. He's still sixty pounds smaller, and you think you're going to get a reward for that. Come on man. This is just weird because it has long term ramifications. You WanNa fight for a world championship. If you're GONNA come in and flex. Taken on a guy. You got sixty pounds of steel over. What are you going to do if you do get the bill? What are you GonNa do then. Do. You see the problem with wanting to put you in that position if you're one of the guys. That's GONNA. Turn the guns back on. The person who offered you the opportunity look. This is something that they have to deal with every day. They're going to deal with it. It's not gonNA stop. Francis I'm just offering. Do you see where that would be a problem? You see where that is a very clear problem. And it was something that he never needed to show. He could just stand back John Handle it. There are times in life when somebody doesn't want WANNA. Do something so they'll price themselves out. As a way of saving faith would have done that, you know they don't WanNa pay money so I'm not going to do it, but I most certainly have. That's true for all of you. Who out there? Raise your hand out there. Rhetorical question would fight steep amyotrophic now. I know you're thinking. Raise, the my okay. Let me rephrase it. Who would fight the coach right now? For one hundred million dollars, every single hand just went up. Every single hand. There's an old joke. A guy walks into a bar and says man. Would you go home with me a thousand dollars and she says yeah, he says. What would you go home with me for ten dollars? And she says well I'm not a whore. Guy Says Ma'am. Established what you are right now. We're just negotiating price. The kids on the underground were discussing the threat today. Daniel Cormier came out and said hey man. I think John Serious I. Think John's walking away, okay? So the question quickly became if John Walks Away with Daniels cormier go down to two or five and reclaim the championship. No, of course not. For, multiple reasons I saw Daniel already did that once and and you guys ever gave him credit anyway. will try to paint it like he was some kind of a placeholder, until until John Returns which was very unfair thing, the question is who's the best in the world right now with the guys that are willing to step for the answer for that period of time was Daniel Cormet very unfair thing that happened, but he had to live with that anyway. No, I don't think he's going to go fall for that traffic also understand Daniel Cormie in some ways regardless of how unfair that was in some ways he agrees with you. He also felt look. I gotTa get through, John, for this thing to really mean what I wanted to me and I. GotTa Get through John. I will tell you this though there is a great misconception about Daniel Cormier as time two hundred five pounds of the problems that he had with John Jones. Daniel Cormet all athletes must find the right weight class, and when they find the right weight, class you to stay in that way class. Daniel Cormie believed that class was two hundred and five pounds, and why he received the biggest prize out there, which was the championship. He's wrong. That is not his weight class Daniel. Cormet is a heavyweight. He's happy there. He moved like a heavyweight, even two hundred five pounds. He not out there. Roy Jones in it and sugar foot, and he's just not that guy. At heavyweight, he doesn't slow down one single bet. His endurance doesn't go down one bit which normally it would. Most got pretty simple. Matthew way in heavier, a little every move a little slower. You Punch a little bit slower. No just didn't happen with Daniel. That was just his weight class and. To see that he it to the highs, there I would even offer for you that if he was to rematch John Jones, and they did it two hundred five pounds. That's where Daniels go to be John. John can be Daniel two. But they could beat each other to fight pounds. I don't know if you could say that. I think two hundred five pounds with the reach and the length, and the John Jones and just everything being same look heavy way would give. An advantage he would have the weight advantage. It would be close. Jones getting their two and a quarter to twenty seven somewhere along those lines. Dano getting there to forty two to forty three somewhere along those lines. You only talk about a few pounds, but you are still talking about advantage in all fairness, those guys are very close. Those guys are very competitive. Ultimate tempting to answer for is the idea that Daniel would drop down to two zero five because he's cleaned to a world title so bad guys don't forget. He's got a world title shot waiting for him at heavyweight right now against a guy who he's beaten before. I don't know that would make very much sense to even hyperbole is that he would move down to two hundred five pounds because John. Jones is leaving and don't forget when John. Jones says he's leaving. I, mean you WanNa talk about the weirdest and weakest threat ever. John said he was going to leave, but be back in two thousand and twenty one. Two Thousand and twenty one is six months away in Dana. White's already come out and said I'd like Jones to fight one more time this year so John's threat is not that he's leaving. His threat is he is going to miss one fight. And when there's something out there that you don't want to do, and for whatever reason getting there with raise is just not what he wants to do. He's GonNa Ho Which? Is. He's gone after. And Gano he's got every which direction, but res- and I will not call John j-o-h-n. Scared I. Don't think you can call a guy scared to fight raise. Who just got done fighting raise? I don't think those two things go hand in hand, but there was something within that fight and something within that competition then he'd like to put some space between. He liked to have another match or get raise a match to see a phrase can slip. When there was something about it. That he did it love. And to watch this dance, go on, and what? He's willing to put up to not sign the one and only contract that he's been presented with. Is Interesting. It's compelling. I. Don't know that it's a knock i. mean every now, and then you get away with one with the skin of your teeth that sport. That's competition. You don't always want to run back to that. But as far as Daniel, dropping to tool five to get a title match when he has wanted heavyweight. I think the question alone is Amiss. Let me, ask you a question. Do. We need George saint-pierre. Now make sure you heard me right. I'm saying. Do we need George Saint Pierre I understand I could rephrase it and say. Do we want George saint-pierre and every hand in the room goes up. I'm saying. Do we need him? Because I am tipping towards yes, more and more. I will tell you the amount of athletes under contract, which is five hundred and fifty six and the amount of shows that are announced moving forward through the balance of the year. It would just seem to me that we're going to be loaded for bear, but for some reason we're having a hard time getting athletes to sign and agree to contracts and dates. Dates now I am coming to you with my interpretation, not something that I actually have evidence of or do any of us. Nobody has stated whether it's athletes, management or leadership. The guys aren't coming to the table. It just appears for all the greats under contract that aren't coming out and getting dates that are side that something is going on behind the scenes. Venice stopping this and when I ask you that even light of. What's going light-heavyweight heavyweight just by example or what's going on at heavyweight? Champ. Return it just some of these moving parts that we got. We might be mean. George saint-pierre solves a lot of problems. You want to fight. Bowe called George. Biggest pay per view star of all time. And that scale is always moving, because you could look on any given night and say well. CONOR did more than George or you can even turn to brock listener on any given night. Perhaps you have a one, hundred would be an obvious one. He gets the credit for it because he was the victor of the main event, right? That's always how it goes. Whoever not only who's in the main event? Whoever wins the main event? Then gets credit for the entire show. And sometimes those numbers are low, and sometimes they're high. They're gonNA take it all. It's just the way the business works. But over time you can combine all the bronx number all connors numbers. They do not equal Georgia's numbers, so what I say. Do we need George Saint Pierre. We sure as hell, want him in. Georgia's coming out and do an interview. Say Man I'm in shape and I never left this because I had to. I left it because I wanted to I'm thirty nine years old I think I could come back right now. The champion well. Yeah, that's a little hard to debate. Considering every time we've seen you've left there with a championship. It did seem as though at one point George was dead set on I will do a return if and it had to be one fifty five had to be the bell and had to be could be I always thought there was some wiggle room there. I have always thought there was some discussions and conversations that you could have. Does it have to be against Conor McGregor at a big fight ear. It doesn't need to be against Jorge. Mas Vidal and the B. M. F. goes up for grabs. Yeah, something along those lines just bringing George back to bring him back. He wants an accomplishment. He wants to achieve something I understand those things, but. If you do end up in gridlock? And you got the greatest ever in Canada. Saying I'm willing to go in. The. We want the we want. Are we getting closer to needing George. Do. We need to bring in the biggest draw ever who by the way is in shape and ready? Yeah, there's GonNa. Be a talk. Yeah, there's GonNa. Be a sit down. No, it's not going to be a simple negotiation. Is One worth having? Perhaps now more than ever. I think so. Just engage. You went on Joe Rogan a couple of weeks ago. Right ever he beat Tony. I don't think gates even flew home think he flew right to California went on the Rogan show and I say that because there's coach Trevor Wittman was with him I. Think they've stopped off in California before they went home. Put it in that time perspective for you. Then bringing you a little bit old news, but it finally got around to it. Engaging broke down his fight with Khabib. And he simply said. I gotTA. Keep my back off the fence. Everything beep does every shot and wrestling he does in the open is designed to push you into the fence and every take down. He gets up against the cage. If I use footwork, I can keep myself out of those positions if I can punch him three times I can compromise if I can kick him eight times. He won't be compromised. Now eight as a lot of kicks, three is not a whole lot of punches, but that assessment is spot on with how question and the fact with the timeframe that he was able to deduce this within forty hours after it being announced that he was going to be fighting could be is a very good sign. Understanding what you need to do, and then going out and being able to do it are two different things. I mean could be could turn this right around gateway and go well. You know he's GonNa. Use Footwork to slowing down a little bit. He's GonNa to kick me eight times to compromise ready to check thinks he can push me three times I got to keep my hand I mean what's good for. The goose is good for the Gander and it goes. Goes both ways, but the mere fact that he has identified correctly the cavs take downs calm and only come once. He pushes you up against. The fence is a very good sign I've seen so many guys go to the fence with comed- and start worrying about positioning as opposed to worry about. GET THEIR ASS off the fence. If you look at the probability and the percentage of take downs that come when he pushes you against the V. It's through the roof. It's all what like three or four and his whole career. He couldn't get ally Quinn up against the fence like he likes to was forced to wrestle in the open. Just simply didn't work. I only bring that up. Because the fact that H is a good understanding of what he's getting into. It does make this for a very interesting fight could be as this intangible, which is pace we've seen. We've seen one hundred guys. Throw somebody and budget them right. We got his called ground and pound. Okay, Great Kabaeva, some intricacies he entertains the legs, advances position different, but for the most part we have seen in a broad stroke. Throw somebody to start pounding them. We get that, but what could be so effective. Is it just a leg entanglements. It isn't the fact that he's looking transition threatening a submission goto strikes find the submission. Yes, he's very busy, and yes, that is more advanced than most guys, but we're splitting hairs on that. What you're seeing is a pace. You're seeing a guy who can go as hard in the twenty four th minute as he can in the third and fourth minute. That is frightening that is that is a weapon to the highest levels. That he has found a way to bring in and make part of his game. So the very first question you have to ask when anybody going to go against Khabib and you want to pick against Khabib. Twenty nine minutes tried and twenty nine men have failed, but if you want to think the number thirty or thirty, one is the charm. Then, you do have to be able to answer the question. Can you hold up when the end of the night comes? Can this guy that I'm betting on that I'm picking? Can he still be there? Can he simply hold up? When it comes to gauge I don't see him as this mad cardio. Guy. That's out there pushing the pace. However, he's the next best thing. which is if you pushed the pace on just engage? He doesn't wilt. He will go as hard as it has to go, and he will go as hard as you want to go. Very few guys can bring a pace of Tony. Ferguson I don't think Justin even thought that he was going to be able to do twenty five minutes and I think he found himself and found his second win either way. There is no way to give a gay confidence faster than giving him. A world championship is a very real thing. There was a college wrestler. One of the greats came out of Oklahoma state. He had eight losses and seven wins going into this NCWA as a freshman name of Mark Branch is currently the head coach at Wyoming. Losing record. Eight losses, seven wins wins inside term. Mark Brands never lost again now. That's a broad stroke dropped I. Think two matches for the rest of his career, but there is nothing to give a guy confidence more. Then giving them a national championship, the same as going to be said for a very clear understanding of what's next. He had no clear understanding of what was going to happen to them as recently as a month ago. They know who is fighter. If he was fighting, he is very clear marching orders at this point. He has could be. He studied could be. He respects could be. He understands could be. Will he be ready for Khabib? That's between those two guys. But here H. E. GO on Joe Rogan with his coach right there and lay out what he needs to do between now and September. Is definitely encouraging if your team gauging. This is your welcome with jail son. Support for your welcome with Shale Sun and comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by quicken loans home. Today is so much more than it was yesterday, but it rocket mortgage home is still all about you. During these challenging times, the top priority at rocket mortgage is the health and safety of the communities. They served. 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Battling, and out at the local Kart, track and Riverside so that was fun, and then I've been at the Moto track a lot with my sign, because he's getting ready for some big nationals coming up so in busy with that, and then obviously we're always filming and doing videos with I call our our youtube channel the deacons, and all that so busy man busy by the way speaking of Haley in your son you. She had won the race and he's doing the motocross bike. Where where do you sit emotionally in terms of what what percentage is proud and what percentages nervous when when they get behind the wheel. Haley when she races short-track you no way I can describe that they encouraging they go by how long the track is when she races under half mile. They don't really get going that fast. Maybe eighty hundred by the time they get up on the straightaway then by the time they get straight. They're turning again. Because attracts so short, then you go into the mile and a half tracks. Okay now they're starting to get into the one hundred fifty. Quicker the time I got really nervous, was she race superspeedway for the first time which was Daytona going two hundred miles per hour in the draft, an eighteen year old, still eighteen year old daughter Noah? Look at her steals my kid. You know so like I'm nervous. It's very nerve wracking, and they're in a roll cage, but still when you flipping at two hundred miles per hour. Stuff can go start. Exploding basically, you know what I'm saying. It's your body the car. So. That's makes me real nervous. Mona scares me in general dude. I don't know why the Hell I have. My kids riding their bikes. Already on first name basis with my Ortho doctor, which is bad, I feel like I'm my a bad parent, but when I don't let them Ride Nan, they're they're they're just not. They're not the same you know. They love the sport. They love the danger. They love the action. So it is what it is. I would imagine that would be a tough argument for you to win though I mean. How are you going to tell them to not do that when you do that? Right kind of up against it there. You might as well just support it. Teach them how to do it. Stay safe as you can on my right. Absolutely you know the the the best way to stay save is by being prepared in having good technique. Really, that's what keeps you safe. When you you know my my middle son, who's you know? He's at this point? Not Bragging he's, but he's the best in the world at his age group and motocross. He just he's won the last so many championships. He's the kid to his age group. So which my point with that is he his great technique? He goes out I know he makes good judgement. As it could a kid be crashed on the backside of the jumping? Not See it land on him. Yeah, that stuff happens, but my youngest son. He's the rebel. He doesn't care about technique. He just wants to go wide open. He hits jumped. He hits should not hit any crashes in all the time, and so for me. He makes me more nervous and he's going. Have this. You'd right so anyway. That's Kinda how breaks down all right now listen. Last time we talked we were discussing some movie options some TV to watch during these weird times I got one four years so there's a show called in. It's not new. It's called Longshot. Have you heard it or seen it? Now, okay, you got to hear this. Let let me tell you the story. You won't even need to watch. I watched it last night documentary, but check this out. This guy gets charged. He does a murder and he's guilty. According to the he is guilty, they've got him. It's in new. York, he's got motive. They believe he has opportunity. They don't like his alibi. Witnesses looks just like him. That's him locked him up. Throw away the key. Well. The guy's alibi that he could it prove because I was at the dodgers game I was at the dodgers game. Game when this happened, okay great. Did anybody see you know I went by myself. Okay, Great. Do you have a ticket stub now? I threw it away. Put Him in handcuffs storm away. This alibi sucks. Hold. That thought guess what was happening that same day at the dodgers game. Are you familiar with curb your enthusiasm Larry? David Yeah Larry David is shooting a scene at the dodgers game. Now stay with me on this apparently the way that works anytime I see a scene like that and I've seen many movies where they're at a football game dodgers game of. But. It's always sold out and people everywhere, and I just assume those were extras. No the way that Larry David did this is he set up cameras on the far side of the stadium that kind of operate like a scope on a rifle if you will where they can be one hundred yards away, but zero right in on him microphones the whole bit. He actually never sought approval. He never got the permits. He was just going to sneak this scene into his show, so he's got hidden cameras that nobody including dodger stadium knows about. About nobody sitting by. He's a hat was sunglasses and he goes and works out this show. Larry David here's that. This guy is being charged for murder and using the dodger game as an alibi on the same day that Larry had cameras set up everywhere, so Larry David actually brings in his editing team breaks down the footage and sees if they can find this guy and guess what sure as hell. The Guy was at dodger game Larry David supplied the camera footage that got this guy exonerated. They released him from jail true story. He just ruined the movie. I ruined the movie. Isn't that fascinating? You gotta you gotTa. Be Kidding me. Larry David for this high budget. Show tried to get around having to pay whatever you have to pay. Snuck cameras in cleared a guy of murder. That's an interesting topic. Yeah, that's definitely a rare story. I guess his Lucky Day for sure. Yeah, you're you're gonNA see much of that. Okay? I gotta ask You I gotTa. Take you into the fight world. Chance. Did you happen to Catch Gilbert? Burns versus Tyron Woodley over the weekend. In I hate to say no, and I'm super bombed about that because. 'cause Woodley was someone I met. At Nascar back and through Monster Energy We were doing some appearance. Deal any was. He was really like he didn't know me like as far as I know you know he came up was like. Hey, you're shirts, crooked and adjusted my caller and You know you just like seemed like a genuinely nice to. I don't know you're. Just like my checkout or something, I don't know. I don't know, but he seemed like a genuinely nice guy and I was like so I've kind of became a fan I'm like. Dude seemed like a pretty cool dude and I'm bummed. I missed the fight. So what happened because I see? All the highlights everything from on instagram and all over the place. is so what what happened first off I love that story. You just told because that's a very organic moment and I'm with you. If some guy came up to me that turned out, he was a cool guy, and he just wanted to straighten my caller out so I looked better I would also remember him I would also chair for him in the future right. Right I mean that's kind of cool so okay Bryant. Here's the thing I gotta give you the backstory, because here's the thing and you know this about sports to like. Yes, ultimately, if you want the blue ribbon, you have to beat the competition, but there is a, but and there's no excuse making, but it's a reality that you're also looking for personal bests. Track and field those this very well. If you can go out and out, run your own best time regardless of where you finish in the field that is to be celebrated, and the reason I tell you that Tyron Woodley had multiple boxes that he had to check okay the I was. He has been out for a year. How is he going to do returning to a twenty five minute main event atmosphere? Having, not done it for a meaningful period of time and second the last time he did it the time before that time before that time for that and the time before that it was for the world championship, so motivation was also very obvious. Wasn't so motivation now becomes a question in addition, ultimately can. Are you going to have to be Gilbert Burns? On this specific night of these rules? That's okay well. The first two boxes he checked, he looked great. His condition was on point. He held up for all twenty five minutes. He dealt with adversity within twenty seconds of the fight where he was knocked down as I was split open blogs run into his eyeball. He gets up off the campus and keeps pushing forward. Third box what I'm sure he would look at his most importantly is. Do you get the Blue Ribbon? The answer was no. He came out with the silver medal, but it was a great fight. It was also a great story because Gilbert. Burns is one of these guys at so excited. He'd never been in a main for Brian. Been in a five round fight, he'd never even been locked in there with a former world champion. Opportunity and the motivation for him was very clear to see the question is. Is he going to buckle under that? Is that too much? Pressure the answer? So it was a fantastic night for Gilbert, but it was also a great night for Tyron Woodley, sports, or so called coldhearted that if you don't win, therefore you have failed. It's like I. Don't know about I think the tyrants succeeded at two of the three goals. That's opinion. Yeah, yeah, and and. I should probably know more about this. But how? How is Woodley's record? Pretty just like I mean that's a untarnished as far as I mean has. It's been for a long time. Woodley will go into the hall of fame. Definitely yes many people have called him perhaps the greatest welterweight ever now when you're in the company of George Saint Pierre, you're not GonNa win that one but many people have. Have, said this. Yes, if you get to win on Tyron Woodley, you're in a very rare club, but tyron also has to do the hardest possible fights just because of his star power because of his purse what they're paying him. I mean he's got to be a main event fire. When your main of it fighter, you fight other main event, guys. It's a tough night out. Yeah, absolutely is. What do you think is next? Steps will be okay, so that's always a tough one because it does. Come back to win your champion and you know this life that goes up must come down i. mean that's just the way it goes so if you can get up and you can hold that for a while. That's what they then color your window and they call your prime so very real thing. Where does he sit in that? At thirty eight years old, having to climb back, does he want to do? These are personal questions that I don't know the answer to that is what he is going to have to struggle with. Where is? Is My motivation. How bad do I want this? Don't forget. Tyrants are very handsome guy. He's a very likable guy, but he's also has multiple talents. He's a great commentator. By example. He's even started a rap career. By example, he's dabbled in movies by example, so I think he identifies as a fighter I think he's going to squeeze that a little bit harder, but just say he changed his mind. It's not as though the world gets dark for Tyron. Woodley new opportunities opened up. He's rare guy. Yeah, and it's tough. I mean what a tough road right to your sane is to stay on top of a sport, but this sport in general. To stay on top of you all these young hungry hungry guys coming in I, WanNa take you down, and at some point you see a lot of the the fighters finding their way into a Hollywood or other things, and it seems like once they go that route. It's very tough to come back and still have that grit once you get the five star treatment. I don't know just what I see as a fan from the outside or you can and. How I guess it's always cool to retire on top, but a lot of people don't aren't wired that way a lot of people you know. If they feel like they're on top, they can keep going i. You know I see that, too. And you know that fame as a drug and you gotta do whatever you do to get it, even if it means, you gotta go turn a bike upside down while defying gravity weighs three hundred pounds as you're doing three sixty for the roar crat, or you gotta get locked in a cage, and the only reason I make that comparison is i. do think a Lotta. Guys would walk away if they found another drug. Drug if you will, if they founded the way to get that attention, get the roar of the crowd kind of be in the spotlight. I, think tyrants, maybe in a unique spot to be able to do that and we'll make that transition better than others Bryant. Let me ask you something kind of along the same vein. I I wanted to ask you this before we spoke, but when I got when I retired from fighting, that was a lifestyle change. A lifestyle change in terms of just the energy and the calories you burn a day, so you try to fill that void for me. Listen a little bit more weights, or maybe going on a couple of more walks than I would do before Kinda use some of that energy. Take a guy like you have to do that I. Mean I ended in a one eighty from what I was doing before I'm not. Without having to go in and punch kick another man of take those punches and kicks, but I'm just not going to do this, so I'm going to find something to but I find that you've got to be in that same spot I mean when you get done, but you still have that drive to go. Do you can't just take the bike out and hit a couple of flips or do you? Wrong about that. Yeah, it's a good question. Because he in our sport. You're either kind committed, or you're not to compete, so if you WANNA compete, you always have to stay at the highest level, but I guess I I guess way you could break it down if you still want. If you just love the sport and you still want to get that rush. I still hit ramps to this day. Like some of the best riders in the world that we work with are still come right at my house that are competing X. Games I still off the dirt bike and throw my gear on and I'd go hit the ramp with them. I'll do some of the easier tricks like see grabs and. The kiss of death. Like, basically the handstands going upside down. Is kind of another level. You go okay. the last time I did a backflip is probably over a year I'd say you're, too. and. There's a big rush with that. In a challenge of like I am I still wanting to do that and I still wanting to take that risk and I got to the point in my age. Wayne Outweigh too many options I and it's not safe to do that. The can't be going well. What if what if what usually you just hit and do it in natural? Your body is used to it in, and it just goes for the flow, and you flip, and you do your tricks and once he's. Don't don't do it enough you. You lose your ads. Ads really quick that badge being elite, and so that that goes away, and then it gets dangerous so for me. I've kind of made a hard choice of. Do I really need to flip dirt bike anymore? Like what am I getting I? Got This through my head. I'm asking you what that's. What I really trying to ask you. And what is the answer do? Do, you really need to flip a dirt bike Brian in no, and that's that's it right so i? Get a rush. I hit the ranch with my buddies. I do some basic tracks, and now it's like Tony. Hawk I've had this conversation with him. I say you're known for the nine hundred right. That was a big moment. X. Games in and I'm like how. How often do people look at you and go Tony? Do the nine hundred and you're just like day. That was like now as long time ago and people don't understand they don't get. It is like I was the first one do a three sixty on a dirt bike I still to this day. How people do a three sixty? I'm like it's not like. I don't know it's hard to. Explain by the end of the day it's like. Go in the you have C.. Championship did ten years ago. Man Like. Already done that been there. A lot comes with that a lot more than just having balls like a lot more with that. You know like the training. The bite set up. The ramp said of the dirt has to be right like all the things that come into it to make things save that you know nowadays. I don't I don't apply all access. It's all applied to my kids now in. I still love riding dirt bikes. I ride their bike two or three days a week. They go to the track with my kids. I ride the motocross checking. Motocross checks not like a freestyle ramp. It's basically got bumps and jumps and all the doubles. I can pretty much hit. Usually at any track Even the protracted I can still ride those. But that's different than hitting flips on a freestyle motocross two different levels so I still ride a lot because of my kids, and I get spend that time with them at the track, and it's a killer cardio session like I put a eight monitor on. Just so I can show myself. That I'm doing something and my heart rate stays around one forty two one sixty for twenty to thirty minutes at a time. I do that two to three motos when I go ride to three days a week and that's a good workout I mean. That's more than I'd ever get. Do anything else, so that's. Part of it. Yeah, I get I get a massive rush I. Get Mad in angry and I'm addicted to be around if I don't ride a dirt bike, really re I. respect that so you know what you're outlet is now. It's interesting that you bring up the heart rate monitor, and what a workout the motorcross is sports illustrated about fifteen years ago, did an article and they were listing the toughest sport. There is to do tough based on. What's the most? Most tiring, what are you going to burn those calories? You're going to sweat the most in hang in there and they listed them all they had gymnastics. Anyway. You want all the sports number. One was motocross. That's stunned me. I've never done it myself. I've never even had the gear on a written. I couldn't believe I. You've got gotTa be kidding me. They look like they're having so much fun. I knew a couple of guys that did it. Oh Chill! You didn't know that they may wear soaked. When that is done that whole thing, every every muscle in your body is tense that entire time it is not a relaxing joyride. I didn't know that Brian I really got. Massively physically demanding in that one of the toughest sports, because not just because the danger, but think about it, you're okay. You're using a throttle as you're using the brick front brake as using clutch as your your left foot, shifting as your right foot breaking. Okay, so you got five things going on at once. What other sports do you do that? You know constantly constantly as your body's moving, and you're trying to stay in the right position as you're trying to hit, the jumps the right time and hit. Hit the turns at the right momentum like so much going on at once. You got things like that's pretty rare. Like as far as like a as a sport goes. You know your mind has to be sharp. You know and I feel like motocross. That's why the windows so short you know you go be a pro motocross. You'RE GONNA five years maybe ten years. Max, so you know it's very rare to see anyone. Racing supercross professionally after thirty years old shore. So you know it's a tough sport. The were part these days. We're sharing more. GEICO would like to say thanks. Thanks for sharing your savage dance moves. Thanks for sharing your do it at home. 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Gerry McGrath and Jeff integrate the river getting wasted doing whatever else to on the weekend when there weren't racing. And then they came then came. This guy knew Ricky Carmichael. Okay and he and he was this short, little Chubby Dude. When he was young, but he was still bad as fast and then he met a trainer. It was a cyclist. Alden Baker who was the cyclist like knew everything about you know. Cycling's a whole `nother level of. Training in so. Like. Saying Road biking, so he trained ricky. Carmichael and Carmichael put everything into his training. Fully all is cardio and Jim Sessions, and weights, and eating right and vitamins and supplements, and who knows what else you know because they didn't really test for anything back then, but but you know, and so you had that plus motos. Most guys just did motives when I say Motos appro usually just goes to the two to three days a week, and he does motors to Motos a day, which is like two forty minute sessions where your mechanic. You allowed time every lap and you try to match that lap time every lap, if not beat it. You do that twice for forty minutes because that's what they raise when they raise. That's what you do with two modes, so theresa, National For outdoors supercross is one main event at twenty minute main event a different style, but you really WanNa be ready for the outdoors. So my point with that is you do two to three days a week motos now was it. That's what the old pros to do. In now. Ricky took it to another level, and he smoked all those guys. Now. That's the level now. Guys are like have these gnarly trainers that. Training when they're done riding dirt bikes at one o'clock to eat lunch, and they go the gym from like three to five or six, and they're doing you know like all the all the style of training that you see probably a lot of even the fighters. Do you know so I mean? There's a big time into training for sure okay, so you're talking about training right now. Talk to me about coaching. By example in my life I've never. What do you do? I goes I coach Motorcross, but I mean. Is that a lot of you get out there? You see somebody else, do it. You figure it out. You work on your own body, or do you have a coach? Who will sit down? Analyze? Tell you where your weight needs to go. Tell you how to hit this. Tell you to speed up here slowdown there. Sit Down breakdown tapes with you. What is coaching like in Motocross so coaching? It's kind of weird because they're like. There's always been coaches, but it's usually like a writers, Dad. Used to race when he was younger and then he's teaching the kids but now a lot of pros have retired in the pros have now turned into coaches. You have good ones bad ones. You have ones that were national. Champions are actually most national champions are retired. They don't come back 'til coach I very very seldom. Do they some do but these? A pro that was a decent respectable pro will come back and teach younger riders and I feel like that. It's so important. It's with my son. I'm super busy so I. I heard I hire coaches all the time I have tons of coaches I. We do podcasts all the time with talking to these coaches. Because to me, you have a coach and we try to use multiple coaches and a lot of coaches get pissed because they're like. Do why'd you leave? Or why are you using this guy now? What? I'm like Hey I. I feel like we can learn a little bit from everyone, and I feel like each coach has something to teach in, and so that's what we do and I feel like it's extremely important in motocross and supercross to have a coach because you studied video, you study your technique where he had on the bike. Where are you on the balls of your feet? Are you squeezing the bike with your knees? How's your positioning? The Woods know how you position in the turn all this stuff matters because everyone's so tight now the ten twenty. Twenty or so close, so yeah, it's huge coaching huge right now, and it's not always what on one I'm GonNA coach take five kids out and actually coach severs. It got to be one on one. I got to see you at all times. Breakdown that that lap one on one I think the best way to coach in this sport is to have two or three bad ass. Teammates that are all fast, and you see one coach coach them. The mechanics do their lap times in those three guys lineup and do a mock race. Race in you. Go to a starting gate at the practice. Checking in the in the trainer draws the gate and they race, and they. You know that's how the best guys get better in our sport in one coach can handle two three guys. I mean there's there's some coaches. A local check with beginners in novices and kids out there. They'll have a group of ten to fifteen kids They're teaching it. It's fine I. Mean when you're a beginner novice it I mean you're just learning the basics. is one on one coaching. Yes if you have a really good coach that can focus on you one on one. Yes, there's a time for that but I still believe in training as a team is the best thing right now? Star Yamaha's training. One of the few teams that lives in trains together. They're winning all the championships. A lot of these pros turn pro. Get their paychecks and they wanna live in their spot. Spot they want to train at their track, and they will you know and and and all these teams are spread out. WHO's making you faster? Who you racing against the during the week? You practicing against and I think a lot of those proses now they have a voice so like all right at my house I don't think that's the key to success in sport by no means so. I figured it out and it seems like that's never been. The Ki- anywhere right I, mean I I know some guys that are a little bit lone wolves, too, but if you don't have a coach, you don't have a team to your point of not only motivating each other, but it's a competition every day. There's something you're testing. WHO got here earliest? Who left the latest? I mean these little things that happen, but that you could quantify and look at well. Who won the most medals? It's the guy that put in the. The most time there's something to that so I was always wondering that about Motocross by example every sport that I know of and I really only know the traditional ones that are in the schools. You got the baseballs and the volleyballs and the basketball is this kind of thing, but they will have camps during the summer and everybody gets together, and you got some coaches, and they assess, and everybody goes home happy. That would have to be very difficult though for Motocross am I right? Let's say you got thirty guys together. Are you now taking away from the safety I mean. Is there too many guys where there's not enough? Not Enough eyeballs. I, agree, there comes a point where it's too too. Many writers is not is not good in lot of the training camps. Where they you can send your kid in some of them are just babysitting camp like some of these families drop their kids off at these camps and don't come back for months they'll just in the kids are young. They'll be like ten twelve thirteen years old kid like they they have. These camps that they stay in these cabins and they have mechanics, dirt bikes, and and they have a school which these kids can show up at school, and they always turn out to be by far the least educated kids. It's like really horrible what they're doing to these kids as far as schooling I am a big advocate of graduating and having good grades, because only the point zero zero one percents going to truly make it and make enough to retire okay and. So the majority of them are not gonNA. Make it and the majority of them are gonNA. Go what I do I dropped out in ninth grade tenth grade now to try to find a job and I don't have any skills at all I see that happen so much in our sport in so anyway going back to the camps. It happens a lot of these camps because the. The families are busy, they work. They're like okay. I'M GONNA job. Little Johnny off at the camp and he's going to be the next champion in. They leave him there and who knows some cancer good. Some are bad, but yeah. You get to some of these, and there's just so many kids you get kind of law. You get lost in the shuffle and that happens. Happens a lot, so you WANNA? Make sure you pick the right. The right can't and speak in camps in fighting. Who Do you think has the best fight Jim the best? Can't because I watch as a fan I watch and I see okay. This guy has been training with these guys he's going to be. This is going to be you know that's kind of what you. You what you see, you know sure it changes that answer changes that gets very competitive, and some more money's coming into the sports, and now we've got some gyms. What what we would call super gems that are recruiting athletes and many of them are fantastic I mean Jeez. There's American top team by example. They've even got a dorm situation, so they fly. Somebody in that doesn't. have any more than the bag that he got off the plane. They have someone firm to live. Have a kitchen. He can take an elevator. Go right downstairs. Get his training so when you have something like that and you're able to recruit much like colleges you can start to build. Better team if you will win, more matches a little bit more quickly. I do see some major. Success though with some of the smaller gym, some of the guys, the Diaz brothers come to mind where they've got a small gym. They got one coach Richard Perez. He runs the whole thing, but those guys that come out of it even though there's only four or five of them, those four or five or polished and ready to go. That was something that say Teddy. Atlas used to do custom motto. Mike Tyson's trainer very small gym, but the guys in there all personalized attention. High tide raised raises all boats, so there's something to be said for, but there's also something to be said for bodies. I mean I kind of like some of those super gyms. Where you got twenty different teammates, you got twenty different. Opinions and minds that are working on it, but right now. If you did want to know the world, I think that the American top team is the gym that most people would have to look at and say those guys have the most champions in the most wins. Now there's several that fall through the cracks, but there is something to be said for having a whole lot. Lot of really good minds in one place. Yeah, all right, so yes China, because that's obviously one of the more popular names you hear out there, and so they are recruiting. Hear. I hear this one kid in Brazil's really good. Let's call them and get them over here in in train them up, and he can represent, and we'll find him his deals and find him is. That's cool. I didn't realize that was happening a guiding Dan Lambert. And Lambert is never looking for a return on his investment. He is just truly passionate about the sports passionate about helping people. He's a passionate about being alone for the right. A lot of people will say that, but they got another plant. No, Lambert's De. Lambert's been doing this twenty years. He does something else for a living. This is purely a hobby. There is a return and there is some training and management fees. Should you ever get there? He's never going to recoup its. There's never going to be an Aurelie. But? Yeah, he quite literally what you said. If he hears about somebody and they can even be in a different country. He will get a hold of them. He will explain your welcome out here. We'll take care of all your training. Represent US where our t shirts at. A. Real Pride in that and yeah I mean they literally they have dorms and kitchens. You get an elevator. You drop down boom. You're on the train and you get back. Go up shower up rest up. Come back and do it again. Two three times a day and he is changing people's lives. Even if a lot of those guys don't as you well know, some guys can do everything right. You know what I'm sure you all the time. What's IT GONNA take to be. Be Great Well. You can answer the broad stroke. I can do the same thing well. Here's what all champions that I know have in common, but at the end it does take some talent, and there's also something to be said for luck. And how do you define luck I would defy a lot with just timing. Are you in the right place at the right time, and you're ready to go. A lot of it comes down to that. You know there's really no promises. In Sports. That's something that parents want to believe in something that coaches that are looking to sign you up. Falsely put out there but I think you and I would agree is athletes. There's more to it and sometimes two plus two dozen equal four. Yeah I agree and like talking to Chad Reed in Ricky. Carmichael to multi time champions in our sport and they they believe in champions are born that way that you're born champion. I was like I. Don't know about that. That's a tough one because I don't believe that I think I think you gotta be. You gotTA. Have that fight in you, but you can work to be a champion I don't know. What do you think I definitely side with you? I do believe in that hard work and desire and discipline and I'll I hear other words I hear coaches talk about motivation a lot as a coach. I don't use that word only because. I can't control my own motivation some days. You're doing something some days you don't, but you can be disciplined I can't control in the car on time and on practice on time of my co, Jassim I like disciplined a little bit more, but I'm with you. I've seen some guys that boy. They were not athletes. You can throw a ball at him the ball and hit him right in the face. I mean they didn't have any idea, but they could lockdown and grind, and they really wanted something and work towards it. I watched. Those guys go on to win Olympic and world medals. Yes, so I'm with you. I don't know that a champion is born, but I do agree with them that there is some talent that. Definitely helps things to speed up and maybe that is DNA. And that's why you know. See In our sport is. That the kids at win user are coming from. The, current champions are usually coming from a little tougher upbringing didn't have everything And I see that you know I see that in. Fighting you know because my youngest son. He's scrappy and we put them in wrestling and he's I in my wife psycho why we should just get him. He should just do you have. A big difference between the kid, a little rich kid who's got. Likes to wrestle in the guy comes from Brazil that grew up in the streets right and this is his only way out. This is like no return must do it. It's maker. Make breaker is getting. You know like there's a whole different mindset there you know and see that in fighters you see that a lot with boxing and in a lot with I mean as you have seen now. Are they trained our kids making it now from training from little kids to to USC now have money in a decent a decent backing. We're starting to see it and I think at that time will come because a lot of what you. You laid out I mean if you can have a workout facility at your home, you've got a major leg up. If your dad can bring in specialized coaches, you can have a major leg up if you can get on an airplane and go and have experienced at some of these different kids, you have a major leg up, but that does come back to what you're referring to. which is you've got the rich somebody that wants to fight or somebody that has to fight. There is a big difference so I think we're GONNA. See that curve. Let me share something with you. The laws oddly all fifty states within this union have. Mixed, martial arts they sanctioned encourage will contest mixed martial arts under the unified rules. However, this is the part that might surprise you. You must be eighteen to be able to do that, so you can go into a gym and you can practice, but you cannot actually participate and or compete even at the amateur level, so if you wanted to bring in two eleven year olds and they were friends and training partners, and they're going to put something on. You would have to call that an exhibition, or you would be looked down on. Your promoter's license could be taken and the only reason I bring that up. I think logically there is some sense to not throwing. Throwing kids in Cajun, having fight I get topically that you're going to have some real problems trying to explain that to the governor, but I think that you would also agree if this is in fact, a sport and all fifty state says it is. We don't have any sport that you can't actually compete in until you're eighteen. That could be baseball. That could be bull riding. You can do anything at any age if it's a real sport, so a little bit of a push and pull their where I. Don't know that you're going to see nine and ten and eleven year. Olds really refining their craft if they don't have any way to compete for a decade. So, so they don't have A. Did they have any amateur? Any amateur, they don't how you have see match for kids like like without strike without full striking, or is that just digits is just wrestling. The UC banner, but yes, you could do every single element of mixed martial arts you can enter competitive taekwondo, competitive judo, competitive boxing, competitive, kickboxing competitive wrestling right there at your junior highs in the high schools throughout this country, but if you try to put it all together in one night, no, they simply will not allow it. You must be eighteen and nobody's. Nobody's really pushed back on that. I haven't really pushed back. In fact, the most I've ever said about it is probably to you right now, but I have thought it I thought well. If every state is saying, this is a real sport, and it's a sport that we can prove storage used to even be in the Olympic Games. It was yesterday. Call Tancredi. But. It was the exact sport of mixed martial. Arts. Seems as though I don't know that you could keep kids from I. Don't know that you could keep a minor from doing it. I will also tell you event. Organizer I'm not I'm not sticking kids in a cage on Saturday night and charged for people to come watch fight. I'm just not doing it, so I kinda. Get all sides of the argument, but to your point if that's something that. That you really want to grow up on, and that's what you got. Your Vision on I mean even Floyd Mayweather it's at nine years old was able to go in and compete pursue. Olympic dreams go to be a world champion that seems like a very vicious sport boxing in all fairness I, love it, but it does seem like pretty contact sport. I'm surprised that same respect hasn't been shown to. Your question, it hasn't. Yeah, so that's why we say without. That's what happened to Freecell motocross. We were all these older guys that created the sport and I'm like for any sport to serve survive succeed. You need to amateur. You need an amateur. Brank that's going to build the next generation and I was asking what you have. See doing to build back next generation, but it sounds like they're just grabbing from everywhere from all different disciplines, but at some point you almost feel like they should have some type of amateur buildup for, but now without the striking, maybe with there's other some other form of striking. I don't know maybe I don't. It's open hand I don't know. But just to get that feel because it'd be crazy to go, and he doesn't have to be for money. Obviously, but I guess be kind of crazy when you you know supercross, the hardest part for a lot of kids is when they turn pro, and they go in front of that big crowd there for at eighteen years old in their nervous. They're like has the first time doing that, and there's a lot of not a lot great preparation for that, and so that's why they created the The supercross futures in a run on Sunday after Saturday night supercross. Pro supercross on Sunday morning. The amateurs run on the same track in the stadium will team down track in the stadium, but without the crowd, but he's still in that stadium. Kinda get the vibe in I it's helped. Build them up for the sport. They were GonNa one day do in. That's just a supercross being smart and investing in the youth going okay, we need to make sure we got the next. Stars come ashore because right now. The stars are coming in from motorcross track amateur motocross. It's all motocross. But the future is supercross so far. We all doing amateur motocross so that that's a big tipping point right now in our sport, so just seeing how it breaks down in yours and and I love what you're saying, and that's more like from the business. Side of you know you gotTA. Bring people up and have these names out there, and that's a real thing in every. Every sport, but there's also a safety precaution. The safety precaution is why people are saying. You can't do it and I'm Kinda. Wait a second instead of throwing somebody in their at their first time once they're an adult, it would seem as though if we get them ready for and I like what you're saying about well, maybe change some of the rules, and maybe it's open-handed. open-handed or maybe use different protective gear, and of course you've got headgear sorts of stuff that are out there. It would seem as though perhaps there's a better way to do it, and these guys are allowed to practice. They can join gyms. They can practice. They can go full bore whatever the coach says, so we do have insurance mechanisms in place in waste to keep them. THEM SAFE, but it would seem as though, but who's going to do that if I don't actually get to compete, I think. The parents have a lot to do with that Brian and fair. Some parents want to see their compete. They want to see him do well. They'd love to see their. Their picture in the paper just seems like. Maybe that's one aspect the sport of has overlooked. Perhaps somebody does need to start advocating for competitions for us putting in what you and I are talking about. Of course we want safety, we walk. We walk good optics. Yeah, for sure I feel like I, said is if you look at baseball, and football and I mean look at the youth programs to you know to build up. To be in those sports, you know look at how many how aiming to be a top football player. Baseball player I mean think of like what you have to do to rise above all the rest that are trying I mean. There's so many kids that are trying those sports you know and I. It's something to say you know if you can be the cream of the crop in those sports. There's just so many but they're amateur. Programs are really good, and you know so i. don't know just kind of see that UC. I don't know how. Hasn't been around. As long as a lot of the other shore, so. Good, Gig, if you can get it, man if you can go through life, playing baseball I. Mean You got it? Made you learn one session? You get it down your with your buddies. You're traveling it rains. You don't play. You still get paid. Baseball got the whole world figured out. They really Ed. If I could come back and do it all again. I'm jealous of those guys, and then when a fight breaks out, clear the bank, get all your buddies with you. About it lasts a few minutes pushing and pulling. Ripping Jersey you get put on sportscenter me. Come on man. These guys got the hustle of all hustle, and I think they're having fun. Yeah, I would say it looks like it. Yeah, I don't know I I'm more action guy like I think I'd get bored sitting on the bench that long I didn't last, but one season in baseball, probably because I just sucked at it, but overall was just. You know it's like I can't sit around I'm not. I'm not very good at doing that, but yeah. I was pretty cool, so I was able to. Talk, to rich Franklin the other day which I've never talked to him before. I. Just you know and I thought man I talked to him for a few hours on his. His, one fight delayed gets his in Singapore. As just kind of learning about that, but I thought man that dude. We're like the same age and we came up and the same style. He's like. Yeah, you have see was just kind of starting, and we were these guys that were just kind of creating this movement and I'm xactly what we were doing a freestyle motocross. We were just creating this movement. There wasn't really any money in it. We were just you know just hoping you know not really hoping we're just enjoying it. And the money was key started coming after so many years, but you know it was about taking these chances, and and you know. A lot of failures and a lot of success is and. Like, we would do shows in the middle of nowhere for like a few fans at times or Like he was saying travel all the world to fight, and sometimes there'd be like you know hardly anyone there, or for no money or whatever it was, but it was kind of cool talking on seeing the similarities there. In that guy being a teacher and it kind of a different backstory, right? Time, Weird Franklin is one of the few guys that you'll meet that. He is not a meathead, not in the least I mean. He's an area com. He's a very nice. He's polite. He's got a head on his shoulders. To your point, it wasn't just a teacher. He was a math teacher. I mean that's a pretty tough subject right so. And then as soon as he got done with the sport, not only do you get inducted hall of fame? Not only does he get to retire a world champion that really did. He was right on that cutting edge that really helped spur the sport of he's. He's on a lot of credit, but he then goes, and he's working in the front office. As you put in Singapore for this promotion called one, which, apparently in that part of the world, really does a great job. People love it. Yeah, so yeah, yeah I didn't know a lot about it, but it looks like it's a pretty big. He's got a pretty good gig going there, but. It was kind of those Kinda Myra as a fan when I was watching like we know what the Ladele and Tito and all that kind of like bad era, you know. I thought that was Kinda. Cool watching the fights, and they took their time to like. Break the fights back then. It looked like they weren't like in a big rush to like. Save the other guy like. I don't know when that started, but like back then it didn't look like they're in any big rush to stop the fight. They thought that was cool like there was a point in the sport where that was a cool thing to let the athlete decide what they finally caught on his. When the athlete is covered up and not throwing punches back, that's. His way of letting you know, make the decision. Let me save my pride, but you call this fight, so you're right. There was a slow burn got we got to where we are now? Yes I I went back and watched some of those watched some of those fights the other day, and that's just the one thing that stood out to me. The most was that was that I didn't tell you this. When when it very first started I mean the first show ever nobody. Nobody knew what this was aware it was gonna go what? Nobody have the foggiest idea. Whip number one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety three. It was marketed no judges. In no time limits you. You must tap out. There was no other way to win or lose other than your opponent going unconscious or surrender now this believe it or not is not a natural human reaction. If somebody does something to you right now, that hurts, the natural reaction is to say how this is actually a trained skill you have to. You have to this tap so the rank. The referee at the time is the Great John McCarthy still to this day the most respected ref of all time. He was also a police officer from Los Angeles when he's in there and a guy is getting absolutely pummeled. He stops the fight and calls at a Tko, and the promoter ran up to him and started yelling at John through the fence. We don't stop fights unconscious or they tap out Johnson. Get another ref. That's not what. What I do this. If you want this to be a sport and you want me to do it, I save guys when they're in trouble in the promoters just looked at him and goes. Okay, you're right, but that's how that rule got started. It was not done by leadership or a commission, which didn't even exist. At the time it was done by a referee John McCarthy. who had courage and knew what he was seeing and protected somebody. That's cool. Yeah, I agree. I've never really thought about that too much. But Yeah as you're getting pounded, and you're just like oh probably at that last. Of whatever like trying to survive, you're not like here. Let me tap bro Quick. Or you put positions. There's some position where if you tap out in the sport, you get teased for whatever reason you're not allowed to top out to strikes. Tap Out for any debt when you're being. Yeah, but there's a certain thing here, so you guys go. Hey, Raff, I've got my pride. You know how this works, but you're the adult in the room. You're the licensed adult. If you see something, get me to the back in one piece. Let me go into. Deny later to the media. Let me take the microphone declare. It was an early stoppage between you and me. Do Your job and I'll do mine right? It's funny. You say that because it's still in taps out till like a headlock or like or like kick, it's like right. People are like. ooh, Oh, it's gotta be like this a certain submission arm, bar or something. Like this unforseen unforeseen rule there. Are you know I see that? But I get kicked in the stomach super hard and lose all your win, and had that chilling like freaking stinging pain through your body, and you can't either move. The last night. You'RE GONNA. Think is to then do I got other problems. Here I got other things I'm dealing with here. You do your job. Let us do our job and we all move on together right? I mean that's the way it goes. There's wrong and sport with a little controversy. You need to stop one early. You go right ahead. That's rematches, my friend, yeah, have you ever spoke with because I grew up in air when blood sport and like? Fu and cried all that was big Harris spoke Leshan Claude, Van Damme I never met him. I was a fan I would like to, and I know he even pops into some events. I never. I never gonNA speak to him. You should. You should talk to them some time, because I think you'd have pretty good conversation with him. He still strongly believes that he's got a certain style of kicking and. That he he he's learned knows that is not being used in the sport, and he feels like there's still room for improvement and growth in the kicking category like in that that still has been untapped. Do you feel like they're still area there? Well I'm always open to learning I. Mean even a broken clock is right twice a day, so I would not dismiss John. Club but I. do think that one of the things that some of. Of the guys that relieved, they had a skill, and then they watched the actual competitions with the best guys in the world that are refined that have practiced and have been exposed to everything when they don't see that skill being used they default falsely to. That's because it's a secret, and they haven't been shown at as opposed to making the reasonable deduction of those moves. Don't work in real competition and these two guys are proof of that. They're always designated mistake. I worked a lot with boxing coaches, different boxing coaches and every boxing coach on day one will come in and say the same two things, which is first off, you gotTa Use More of a jab and you got to go to the body. These are great boxing, techniques and Emma. Guys don't do it now once. That boxing coach sees MMA over a period of time. He realizes with a four ounce glove. It doesn't make any sense to pepper guy. Step in with the. The power right away and if you dipped to go to the body, the guy grabs you in these you in the mouth, so is one of those things where you have to see and then understand. This is its own sport and I wanted to deny the John Cloud likely has good kicks. He certainly is good flexibility. I made push back on the idea that people aren't using them because they don't know them as much as they're not using them because they've found that, they're not very effective. Yeah that was that. Yeah, I guess that's what I was wondering there it's. A little different because I watched washing. Some of the first sees you see when they had match up the karate guy against the wrestling guy or you know to wear like that. CATIS standing kick didn't quite pan out like he thought it was gonNA. Win The wrestling guy just smashed them into the ground, right. That I think almost feel like UFC. In, my is almost unfolded in took the took the veil off of Gwen karate is like in you. Know I I. Don't know karate that grant I know there's a lot of history to it. But I think every kid when they're younger thought okay I take karate. I'm going to be the baddest Dude in school. Right like when really probably the rest of their kid was Raleigh now. The tougher kid in school right like and I look at it and thinking of all these cottages they teach and all this. And then they actually had that discipline in the first season. Those kind of the I to get waxed, yeah! Hey I was surprised about that, too. I was in college at the time I had no idea. I had a skill from wrestling when I recall wrestling a martial art. You never turned on a movie from Hollywood and the tough guy was the wrestler. Never I'm with you. It was always the karate was the van Damme Seagal it was the Chuck Norris and those things seep into your mind. May that perception became reality and that was a surprise for me, I. I, really was into that early day when it was a kito versus judo, it was these two different styles because none of us knew nobody knew it was all theory and philosophy, and now you've got one sport of just MMA, which is its own thing, but I'm with you on that I also did it. No I also saw I was the best restaurant. I also sidestep to the football player. That could bench press more than I could thought that matter we. Ran? That was the big thing in high school for sure. It was the bench press tough guy. was always I believe me. I worked on that bitch press so damn much just for just because people did respond mean that was a real man. That guy got up to twenty-five. Big Wheels on each side we his way. That was a real thing. I remember in high school I was. Gotten fight at school in any way. That kid wanted to fight again after school in image, kid was in the gym like bench, pressing all this weight and there was like the talk of the school. The kid put up for plates. This kid's GonNa kill you. And it was so funny and I look back and I remember going home and my older brother in the kid shows up my front door with the whole school. Basically, this is how the small towns work. In, my brother's like you'd better get your ass out there and. We go out there and the kid basically comes up. Were I lived into this cul de sac and kind of cornered all these people? You know I'm like dude I ain't. Ain't even doing the talk thing like I ain't even going out there and getting in the face and started off. My brother's just like getting. Get out there and just throw the first punch as fast as you can and. Walks Jada literally ran to this guy and just boom, and we started fighting rolling on the ground, and this that ended up kicking. The dudes ask which was. Thankfully I did because the whole school while I change or Kind of it from that point, it was kind of like okay. I didn't have to do too much more fighting, but in school like, but it's funny. Because the bench pressing I'll never forget. It I was like that was like the thing like that that that everyone talked about and we were in Nebraska right. This is definitely A. PODUNK small town school, but it was. It was funny. And by the way I agree with you on that so many people I off the talking as part of it, and then people are really big into. Who threw the first punch? Make sure he throws a freshman. Excuse me. When he showed up at my house and me, the fight started. He started this. I punch business as soon as he's within arm's reach, and he looks like he's upset. The fight started. You might as well get that I often hope you get the second one off to. That'd be nice right there. Yeah, in nowadays in school, because they're so anti fighting in school now we're a high school back in back in our day, and that's how you saw there. As well after school meet at the park and fight and move on, and so that nowadays, though if you get in a fight, you both are in trouble. That's like they don't care. Who threw the first punch anymore? So be the first punch. Get it done right either way. You're getting suspended suspended with a bloody nose or right I mean this is your options. It's funny. Yeah, when you think back of like e-. Yeah, even the early days of high school, the high school fights or even different. I gotTA. Tell you this was fun I about forward to talking to you. Do you have anything you want to get off your by the way by the way I might mention to you you. Kinda undersold my Larry David Story. That was a great story. I brought to you. That's an incredible story that Larry David had footage and got a guy off or murder. Rap I feel like you Kinda, Omi. You Hey. Appreciation I I. Didn't see it documentary movie documentary okay. Credit more credit Larry participates. Jerry Seinfeld participates like. They're telling the straight yet. We knew we had this. What are the chances we'll see this guy? With forty thousand people? We had the Larry actually has the past the. Point like goes and gets a hotdog or something. He has to come back the guy that stands up and moves so Larry can get to his seat I mean it was a one in a long shot. The guy would be jail right now. The DA was convinced cam dude was telling the truth. He was at the game. You know how many people imagine how many people are in jail that are like that live at innocence through. That's gotta be just just gnarly. Brian. This one was just as disgusting wants. The DA gets confronted with the fact that the do told the truth is on video that Da. I don't believe that's him. I believe that someone that just resembles him, but it's good enough I guess, I'll let it go the DA. Would not concede. They dropped the charges, but publicly would not concede they got it wrong. I mean come on man have have some balls and all right, and I think you probably know enough like the DA's. They always had to get some form of a win right. Ever GonNA. Drop it! Never Defeat Right. I mean politics WanNa one, but that's a little bit dirty. You gotta put a guy in prison. Just because you don't WanNa admit you're wrong. Come on, man on the a man, but no, no, that's cool, so I am a now. I'M GONNA Watch. Yeah, now I'M GONNA. Go Watch movies so. I'm GonNa Watch that but. Yeah if you have time or whatever down the road, come back on the podcast. The degan some time and check it out. Go to our youtube page sometime in. Check it out. It's the same thing everything we do is the it's our family Biz way. I went to your youtube page today. First off. Congrats, you got almost eight hundred thousand followers, but second. You're putting some tricks out there if anybody likes motor cross. The two worlds come together. They need to go to youtube page at thanks, man, thanks for having me on. It's been it's been fun for sure. Did it was fun? Even though you were a jerk to me about that story I've had it where you want, but we'll catch up down the road. Thanks Brian. Appreciate you pal at ain't. I'll right guys Brian Deegan. What a cool guy! I actually met him, and as you guys that we don't have a lot of guests on the show. We don't have a lot of guests on the show 'cause I'm not a great interviewer. Interview Guy I. Don't want to have an interview I. Don't even like listening to interviews I. Do like having a conversation. And I do like listening to a conversation, so I done Brian Show invited me on a couple of weeks ago, and we hit it off. I've talked twice in my life, the one you guys just heard and a week ago when I did his show, but it was one of those things where we can just talk no interviews, no questions. I'm not the FBI. You're not under subpoena. Bid Be here. Let's just visit as you can tell cool guy and very fun to visit with all right guys. This looks like a good time to call it, but we'll be back on Friday and tell them. Thank you for listening I'm Charles Senate and you are well. Thanks for listening to your welcome with jail and download new episodes every week at odd gassed one dot com. That's podcast. Oh any DOT com. All right guys now I am joined the by possibly the longest reigning guests of this program has ever had Dave Mason from bet on line, and we're going to break down this weekend's car Dave. Let's start at the main event and I feel that this is a card in all fairness. That is a little bit heavy. We got the former champion of the world looking to get back to the top entire Tyron Woodley and we got a dark horse in that whole division Gilbert bronze. How do you see this? Yeah, this is a good one. A car on Woodley lost his belt to shampoos. Mon and this Gilbert Burns, he's an up and comer. Explosive PAP did something I thought it was impossible as last night when he knocked out Damian my I mean really they my get hit. Let alone knocked out. You know. Would look so bad in that chamber to bite fight when he lost his bell lethargic but you know he hasn't fought since then the public. Gilbert Burns in a you know I'd have to take a shot earns myself a plus money currently plus one fifty five. But you know I. It's tough. It's really tough. We're. GonNa. Come back. You know he's been awful while only. Does. He have that fire and Burns has a fire in his belly. Easy as as I on the prize, so but I'm GONNA. Take a small shot at Burns, but but you know so much depends on whether that's a tough one. Yeah, it's. It's really interesting. You say that, so let me give it to you from my perspective in. Here's one of the problems going into this fight a lot of. Of people don't know who Gilbert Burns is now that is unfair. Gilbert Burns says covered the spread over two different weight classes. He has won seven of his last fights, and to your point, he just stopped a former number one contender from two different divisions Damian. My Oh, and by the way he did it even do it with his best tool, which is grout work? He did it on his feet. Feet and by the way he did it in less than five minutes so when you are. Gilbert and the approach is so important Dave. I mean I can just tell you a former athlete. It's so important and when you are trying to climb a mountain, and you're still hungry and things are still exciting. This is your first time in a main event your first time in there with a former world. World champion there's so much that can be a springboard. Can that also create pressure and you go the other way you bet it can, but I don't know how much I'm going to buy into the pressure synopsis in this Weird Time that we're in where there is absolutely no crowd, cheering you or and you I. Don't know how much pressure if you will affects guys, then you look Tyron Woodley. Great there's no way around it, but you've also climbed this mountain before. Are you hungry to climate? Get I. Think I'm within my rights to ask that question. No I absolutely that that's my main concern. You know a lot of a lot of the fight game segue. The talents era Woodley we know that we've seen it and you know that was his only loss. In reset since he acquired welterweight belt so. It wasn't a one off need. No, you can't discredit on the guy. beat him either so, but you know. We'll see. I just wasn't a proud Roy. Letdown I. Bet would have to, so that's. Why did my memory so much? I? Think that you know. He just did not engage with very all aspiring. Lackluster and that fight. You know what's in his head does. He's been a guy that's turned down fights in the past. That always Kinda. rubs. Me The wrong way too. But you, don't it. We'll see A. we'll find out Saturday night, but I'm going to take the guy. The up and comer there burns a little bit of plus money spent any great one three in a weird direction that I wasn't planning on going, but something just popped in my head, and while I have you here I I'm not telling our fans that bet online taking this action, but just for fun if if you had to venture. Does Mike Tyson return to competition. Yes, sir, no. What do you think there's Mike Tyson box again? Boy. You know we. We actually had some odds on that. So, so we are taking bets on on on Tyson. Tito Ortiz Year. Old Pal was WIS Chirp, so we put some odds up on that on on a boxing match. We ever think that mine is five hundred I. Normally, I would say no, but the current state of things with charity things going on. You know badly when we saw the. Golf event that was so good and ray so much money. and we got awesome action on it with Nicholson Tiger. Burnaby and manning going at it so with all the charities the throw that into. I wouldn't be shocked if it wasn't for this cove and stuff I'd say hell. No, but with all this charity stuff, and in all sorts of creative content getting out. Erin and people just hungry for content I know they're knuckle once they bring him on for Flavor Twenty over in twenty million or something, which is absolutely nuts so normally I'd say no, but with all this Kobe I wouldn't be surprised. That's also pictures of only hell He. He's Jack. Manny in great shape and of. Course everybody bag if you weeks ago in my Lord. Felt sorry for that bag, you hooked as strong as powerful as ever so you know if he does come back. I'm sure it's going to be your of special. Special rules and everything will be all out brawl. I don't know of course bare knuckle fights there than there are no special rules and not even gloves so I would like to say it what the Hell and From Book and something like that that the action would be off the charts. I was never in the industry where the when he was fighting. That was before my time in the industry. So that's one thing I've always would've liked the scene of Tyson money. Because whenever he thought it was an event. Sometimes, maybe it's not the best fight or the best game that gets all the action, but the events that news on sportscenter twenty. Twenty four seven at everybody's talking about it I, e, mayweather vs McGregor those are the ones that super bowl at happened in August at the sports books just love because it's like all of a sudden at third week of August. All these people are piling back in when they weren't the year prior so if Tyson comes back in any any kind of competition, competitive own, my God I can't imagine the actual I'm rooting for man. I'm of that same school. Thought of so many people are saying. Yeah, you know he's fifty three. Don't do it in these bad things. I think you brought up an interesting point which is wait a second. What have we do? Manipulate the rules. What if all of a sudden? It's a two minute round and there's a ninety second rest just by example, and by the way it's only scheduled for three or four rounds I think that greatly does change the potential embarrassment factor if you will the intentional. Injury factor if you and if we throw them in, there was somebody from his era. I mean coincidentally vander is now coming back incidently. Briggs. Would like to fight again. Who's also you know just north of fifty years old I think I'm with you. I think there's something special there, even those videos that Mike's putting out eight and ten and eleven, second clips of him shadow boxing or hidden admits to your point hitting the back. I love that stuff. Those stuffs eleven seconds I wish. It was eleven minutes. I Mike Tyson's doing something I'm compelled to watch. One hundred percent, my guy said in then I remember watching those fights when I was a young. Back in high school and When he was on top of the world, and even back then you know. Me and my buddies go to somebody's house. WHO HAD HBO I? Think goes on that then watch the fights and I don't remember anything else that we really gathered for back then, and that was way back in the eighties, so absolutely I would I would love to be on the side the counter for Mike. Tyson fight even special rules because the hype would be just off the charts which I love the events all right, so speaking of ferocious fighters. Let me fast forward you next week. Pay Per view only on ESPN. ESPN plus world champion, and the without question, greatest female fighter of all time. Well I'm talking about a man of Nunez. She's putting the strap up against Felicien. Spencer Felicia Spencer I would argue for you had her greatest performance even in defeat, and that was against Chris Cyborg where I think she opened. Everybody's eyes shocked us to not only her skills, but our heart and her durability nunes versus Spencer. I'm a week early on this, but I don't get to talk to you. That often Dave. How do you see it? Yeah. She's the goat man is. Incredible, I mean the. Coke Out Rhonda took out Cyborg to Cao's right there. To the other people that that women that would be mentioned in the goat, conversation or debate, which I don't think it's any KALIMBA. Also debate anymore. It's a mand all the way, but yes I mean. I watched that Cyborg fight and I was like a they. Oh my God! Who? What's this? What's this economic? That's a looks can be seeming figures. She went in there. You know cyborgs, all Jack Than and Spencer. Just look at you took her over PTA, meeting or something and and. Holy Hell Man. Battled in see. She impressed the hell out of me. Man I mean I, actually might not be the most skilled fighter out there men or women but. I don't know if there many people, men or women with a bigger heart than had holy mackerel that she opened my eyes and that fight, but Nunez will just be too much and I I think I mean Spencer the beats. Amanda, that will be the ultimate rocky story right there. But Nunez, she's I'm not a level with her. Striking ground gained ground and pound everything. I. Don't see mean the odds are reflective. Amend is minus five fifty favorite. Take back on Spencer's plus four twenty. Even despite the high odds, the public is on noon is which which is which is kind of The public and fights usually bet that dog and you know we saw a week and a half of action yet to come in so that that could change by fighting. You could need Amanda, but as of now the betters on Manda, which which tells me some to that. People aren't really given what I do know is every parlay will be keyed on Amanda along with Molly those those two will be keyed on every other parlay that weekend. Oh I fully agree. There's always something special when Sean o'malley present I. Mean it's just a reality. He brings something Utah Silent. Cal Likes to talk about the IT factor shuttled. Has the factor. He sure does Oh, man, I mean. His. Look right I mean this. This is our our about about. His look is interviews. And Buddy backs. It opened the rate. Of course. He's not tested yet another where he's going to have a good test next weekend. Which is great fighting? Cagey, old veteran, Eddie Weiland but but man that'll. Maui is so dynamic is striking. Just one of those guys you eat a lot of tickets, man why this could over his career and how? How big? How big did he look in his last fight? That's the thing you know the. Easiest looks so much more muscular during that time off when he when he fought that last play, he looks huge that lasts. I couldn't believe is made wait at that way class, but he made it easy, and he looked great. He put a lot of muscle and he was ready to go and he he did his thing and next week and I can't wait. I mean I think that's the fight. I'm looking forward to most on that card against violent, so I wrote looking forward to that foul, I fully agree with you all right Dave. Thank you for your time. You got anything else. You want to get off your chest. Lots, but I know your quick on time, but come on bed online, DOT AG and bet the fights in. All sorts of sign up bonuses get your free plays and and bet on the. Money I bet online at Aj foam love at thanks Dave talked to Ankh day-care. Hey Hey. Hey, this nfl hall of Famer Ray. Lewis I'm excited to announce the launch of my new podcast every day greatness Ray Lewis podcast I'll be talking with friends. 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Food Truck Diaries | Aaron Pico

"So we flew him all the way from Albuquerque New Mexico. He's twenty-three-year-old bat at the door. You might gnome as a fee now here in Pico. And I'm Peter my favorite breakfast burritos and all of La on this week's food trucks like breakfast these before man. Amazing I was getting the Rico Suave. I'll tell you I'm not. I'll get the Rico Suave. Please thank you the basic bitch. I I stay away from that Y'All then they have this knife site Salsa to get to this day doing this man it'd be a fan for a long time now. I appreciate it on the horn. Hyping you up man. I appreciate even loyal to me. You always even during my losses and stuff. You always say you're still believe in me so I really appreciate that you know I think with you. It's it's it's a timing thing where mixed martial arts is still in its infancy stages. It's pretty new. And so there is like Rory MacDonald. Who's good at everything we came up during? Ma But we've never had kind of like a a prodigy a fee now where we saw this young kid who's good at wrestling glass wrestling boxing. And then just doing all this to get to mixed martial arts. Yeah so you kind of the first one kind of the the Guinea pig of that kind of That that culture that culture so I don't know I just gravitated towards it and then I would always put myself in your shoes like I was working for beltre's we're in the Desk Matt Square Garden. I just remember thinking you know when I made my. Ufc Duke debut. I think it was like twenty six. Twenty seven yeah. That's another life. Experiences can football big football games and other pretty cool things I was thinking about. You know fuck dude man. It's nuts I it was it was. It was a little weird it just because I just didn't know you didn't know what to really expect. Of course you've had like Tancredo fights kids. Emma may stuff but then when you go to like Madison Square Garden a venue. It's a lot different. It's a lot different. There's all the cameras and lights and yeah it was. It was a disaster honestly but it was C- man. Yeah but the thing is like I was nervous but I just was like it was kind of weird because other fight of. Who's I wasn't really nervous and usually I'm nervous. I just I didn't know what to expect was. Just it's hard to explain. I don't even. I don't even remember the day. I don't even know. Remember the fight right. Yeah it was just like happening so fast this this this and that and then all of a sudden I remember stitch stitch during I was putting the Music remember welcome to the Big Leagues. That's all I remember. I don't remember anything else. Yeah it was. Kinda weird stuff was happening. So fast and But like I said everything happens for a reason what a great experience win lose. Draw would've dreaded experience man because I think also I think more people can relate to a guy like you who we've seen you know you have all the skill in the world in you've you've had some losses but it's so early. Yeah it's a WHO gives a shit dude. I lost my Amtra. Finally do no-one nobody can tell me. Nobody cares and I think with you especially I fight. No one really cares. Do don't cares. They went on a tear. Then you've got some good competition and then you know had some issues then you back on the winning track. We'll take this. Is the fight game like not. Everyone's John Jones. Yeah you know what I'm saying. It's not that you don't have the skill of John but I think sometimes people look at a Floyd Mayweather John Jones and they think that's like the that's the way it goes. It's like it's not though they're all saying everybody always says everybody path is different. And that's truly that's true how it is you can't you can't like try to compare like all. John does it this weight. So you have to be. A floyd doesn't everybody is completely different. And then when you finally get that through your head like you'll be you're GONNA be okay. You don't have like for me. I always wanted to be undefeated. Honestly when I was a kid. Floyd feed and UH obviously life takes a different turn. But you can't be like you can't compare yourself or you're your own person in your own journey is completely different. But I also and I think it's because I've been in not in your shoes at your age I've been in the in the big show. I've been there where now the outside looking in Alexander fights even the fight. You win if you get caught with something or maybe some doesn't go right as a fan of yours in what I think you're going to go on to do. I'm like that's happening now instead. In in till seven he gets to the the big big title shot. You know these things. There's only one way to learn. Unfortunately the path you're on the way you're learning is everybody else's learning to and they're not all onboard if PECO straighten you know? That's just the bummer. Especially at your age. It's all good at the end of the day. Like for me is just one at a time. One training session at time and just trying to evolve as a martial art built from his mother. I'm not worried yes that's and for me. I JUST WANNA get time in the cage now just time in the cage relaxing and this fight. I really felt good in there and and I see the seven months. I didn't find it was I was just working with Greg. Six on all the coaches there and just calming calming myself down. Even the Pat Sessions. I would be turning applicaton now. Let's slow down the fight. Let's practice slowing things down and and In the fight I I remember everything in if I all my fights before and I didn't remember anything even the fights that I would win. It's so weird. People would say like what happened I I. I didn't remember anything that went on. Even the fights that I did win. This fight was the first time that I actually can walk myself through the fight. I was like I could hear what Greg and the coaches were saying. It's it's a beautiful feeling insure like experiencing too I I think Yes same way. I I remember certain sites in the back and they go home and do Melissa. I don't remember lose or draw. I don't ever watch the film like what is yeah. I think it's just literally not experienced Knowing you know and and downloading data that education of experience is priceless men? And there's there's really no way to learn about it. I don the best coming up for you know from from boxing wrestling to paint creation. Like you've you've done all the right steps to get them now it just time and experience in the cage in under the you know the lights in the Rina's there's Nagas money can buy nothing nothing you can do to do it. Nothing crazy. It's weird so it was nothing to do to to replace experience man. But you're in your fights when I watched there's so much like this fucking race Carmen. Just want to get you just WanNa you know see I can I can. I can when you're in the okay to little That that's true. That's before people would obviously just going there and relax. Just that's all you gotta do is just and I'm like I would tell coach Gregg. That's what they would say before just relaxing. They're going relaxing. Just let but there's like before now like with coach. Gregg is like so many positions our working on Mike. Okay now what do we do to slow down the fire? What are we? What are we looking for on the ground on the on the feet before? I'd be like one thing I'll have to get to take down. I have to do this. Greg is just let the fight happen. You're calm but you're not like oh I'm relaxing there and I know you're like a calm intensity this very focus. Let The let the fight happen and do do what you've been doing all this training camp in this fight. I really felt good. I really really felt like I always say I just remember the fight before I don't. I don't remember any of my friends even fight said I want but this was the first time I really felt like I saw everything I heard. Everything with the coaches. Were telling me and The only thing I could say like I said it's a beautiful feeling and I'm happy that I got to say Madam I gonNa ever get to that point because everything was happening so fast you're like damn and especially coming off losses last can't relate it to like it was like a law so like like. I said everything's happening so fast so finally when I got in there and I felt it felt good and I haven't even all the people out of people know this but I I was working with the sports psychologist this for this fight and and I I I I was kind of like up to all I. I don't know if it will work but I really went and I started to really really pay attention to the things that he was telling me to do and really really helped me so I I liked. It may not be for everybody for for me. It helped me so here. It is Especially when I was coming up. I remember you guys being guys. There's one guy in the team who used a sports psychologist and we Kinda made fun of our team was like we. Kinda made fun guy and then like two weeks. Later George. Saint Pierre came to town was our guy and She athlete practice early. And I already gone my sports. 'cause I worked with them and everyone's like excuse me I talked. I worked non-stop fight. No fight work with and then we're kind of like well. He's doing that and I think he was kind of. I wanted to be we use the grace Wa time. So he's the most strongest mental person. We know Ford. He's doing it the we probably should be doing it. And then he kind of knocked down that wall. Tater work with a sports psychologist. It's not that you know that. You're freaking out inside data. Should it's just a tool to help. You Not GonNa hurt. No no it definitely. It's really really helped me Just calming like always nervous but comedy your nerves in just like things to think about an exercise that we work on really really helped me for Georgia to say it's about you tell. Everyone has those butterfly. Yeah everyone before. Every fight has his butterflies for him. It's about getting those butterflies. Form a line and go to achieve the objective. They do. Yeah because even like when you're in the back before a fight like sometimes your mind you WanNa like freak out you're like man this and that but like like you said you have to really like hold it together and and that's that's cool at. Georgetown used the small time. Favorite asks. Have you ever met him? I met him one time. My wildcard just a while ago briefly but man I. I love that guy to get together as my favorite. He's my favorite favor fico many similarities together man just being around him and it's like the way he used the game and just how he you know for him. It's chess. Everybody else has chuckers. And the way he would put together a fight camp and just his his approach. And then you find what was fascinating to me is George saint-pierre US more scared than any of us. Walk US up here. I can master the first time I ever met him. I got off doing ultimate fighter. We just got a house and Greg Jackson's okay. Come with me so go with him and we're at this. Fancy Hotel took penthouse. I'm like well that's happening. And he goes. Hey just go in. I'm be right back with it. It's short saint-pierre. You guys in that before. I never met him. Never met for you. Just go in there. I go and lean towards each other. And he's in a towel and it's I think it's the day of the fight or like the day before. He's in tug on. I don't fucking know Brandon. I don't fucking know. And he's like going back and forth. I'm like I'm sure. Fuck Not GonNa Talk GSP. I'm not going to calm down for this huge Alvarez you know I just I just remember seeing them like Holy Fuck. He's just like us man. No it's true you and him together such a good team it'd be it'd be really cool to go. Just pick his brain or even learn a few things from him. I'm I don't really like like fan out like too much. Honestly like George Saint Pierre. I Honestly Watch. Maybe I watch his like two to three of his fights a week as long as much as you love them as a competitor. He's an even better human being. That looks Cliche the stadium. That's what I hear. I hear. He's well read. He's so respectful. He takes care of everyone he just he just does everything right. Man where you psycho man if I can just get ten percent like George. I'm good in just in life such a good person. That's that's what I hear a lot too. There's a lot of people that say the say that because Say Yeah he's a great competitor but they also say he's a great great human beings. Yeah Greg Greg. Very highly of him to like everybody. I've I've never met somebody that said that he was he was an asshole. He was this They just say he's a genuinely nice guy that's cool. That's cool to to here. Yeah now you're on the same page as gop was under you know especially when GSP's in the thick of his career. Yeah I'll see us for us. Yeah nobody George I'm sorry Greg Jackson to allow that gay plants up and a lot of man. George was such a Chung minded person. A lot went into that was that maybe is that what drew you to. Jackson's camp is just so the viewers know you switched camps. Yeah Yeah you're with Greg Jackson's with coach Gregg and everybody at Jackson wink. But now I really really Joe. Well coach Gregg and all the coaches there. But he's He's unique honestly. I really really like His coaching style. And just like keeping me calm too because in my I'm very like strong minded to want to work work work and you know he has a good way of breaking things down for me and and And Greg as a way of keeping all the coaches together and making sure that everybody's on the same page you know because you know how coaches sometimes. It's hard and then you know but it's the toughest luckily for me over there. They all work together and for me and they've all they've all had a good a good vibe together. There's no like okay. You coach Gregg says. Yeah yeah coach. Gregg needs to work tells them we need to work on this problem. Everybody's like okay and I don't know about the past like of course. There's a lot of jobs like that. I've heard before but I don't even know myself. Yeah I just not you let your I use. I use this thing. I just stay in my lane on process. That's why I show up to practice fifteen minute and get ready for practice. I don't care WH- beef people have stay in my lane. Go to war. It's exactly tell you should have a say about Greg. Jackson's what makes Greg Jackson? So special is he's mixed martial arts Phil Jackson. Yeah so he can take the Kobi's killing me. Oh you can do all. They he could do it with the Michael Jordan Scottie. Pippen the best of the best in. May everybody somehow feel okay for the for the last five the best to us because we drove to the Reno together and I went and got a car. He says you know some very calm. You know some people. Were you know how to desktop? Some people are actors. He's like your fighter. Let's grab your bag. Let's go in there and clock in and get out as soon as we walked out. He said a good day I work. Let's go get some food. We went to the Panjshir. You've got some food and went home and just like another day at work. You don't think he wasn't like he just very cool. You walk around how much I honestly walk around. Like one sixty five when watch it pretty? Well Yeah I yeah I watch it all the time I just honest I don't like too big like it. Just don't like the way I look and two and the one it's just not good for you know what your work when you're in camp. Yeah exactly I lose weight like re. You knows this smart but you don't mark loves rights so mark would always like below up. Camp was base him trying to lose weight on the fight scenes way. I'm like really really easy to honestly like I started like really really watching it like a month and a half two months out like all my stuff is monitored and things. So I'm because I love having being on fight week and just like not concerned about way. Only go into like the day before a wins. I'm eating three meals and I'm drinking electrolyte with water and I make it really easy. I people always say that. So they can some people say because they don't want to like like I'm you know I'm not gotten away. But I honestly make way really really is life in Albuquerque. You're enjoying it. So did you move to Albuquerque full-time or just doing cancer. No I moved out there. Fulltime my girlfriend and I two horses in our three dogs are out there so yeah. I've moved out there in July fulltime. Okay yeah joined it I I really am enjoying. Here's Whittier California. I got you and force initially. Yeah it's nice honesty we got. We got the two stables in the backyard. Who got a little horse racing? I could ride our saw my front front door and just go all around town. Yeah I really do. They came out to visit. The family packed up the horse trailer and took doors in other words with us here. And we'll go back before you went to Jackson viewer at two previews camps right For the most part I was just at team body shot with Antonio Makida other great. They're great yeah. I talked on toner and all them. All those guys so yeah. Aj's in Grand Prix. I think he's GonNa win it. I keep telling everybody just yet. He's he's just so so diverse outlet and he's got a good story with his Dad and Father Coaching and they have things I work for them. And you guys came up together right. Yeah Yeah we're we've known each other since we were kids like he was always on my house spending the night over for barbecues and stuff so yeah we're him and my dad are very close. And how tough was it free to team bodyshop and find a new gym? It was honestly really. Yeah but for me on Tony when I are like. We're so such like like family. They're just like if like if you feel that's the best thing for you then. Hey I'm all for it. And and Tonio. She'll calls me and we talk on the phone like before your fine work on what you need to work on and one thing about on. Tony said that over there. Those guys over there. We'll take care of you. Greg Jackson is a great great guy. And he's like. I'm happy that you're over there with obsolete. Gregson famous coaches was famous care Lidge. Don't take anyone. How'd you decide on Greg? Jackson of all the camps he is somebody AK NTT. Yeah one of honestly I like Greg because I've seen him with GSP and just like the way and One Night I was just like so much traveling that we're doing here going from there like all the practices and in one day and I remember one guy. There was a guy named Dan that chains out there in Albuquerque. He was out here in California doing a camp with somebody and though I just I was really tired that day and I was like man time my brother man. This is crazy going from this there and I made a comment in Vanilla. Yeah I was going. Yeah I was GONNA go chain with somewhere somewhere and I saw. Dan and I just made a comment I said. How's Greg and Everybody Doing Jackson Wink? And he's like other doing good. Good there man that they said. Hey whenever you wanna come over let us know so Donna Carson that maybe we should go you know give Jackson wing try so a family friend of ours new coach Gregg and they call them up and they said why. Don't you come down and just try it out for three days and See how you like it so then I was on a flight and the moment I went into Greg's office saw honestly it felt felt right. This is the way when you go into his office and the way he breaks things down. You know I've I feel right at home and you know coach coach Gibson Coach wink and you know I work with Jujitsu coach professor too. So that I've been working with everybody's on the same page to help me and they truly care about me so I like. Yeah so that's how it all came about. Thank you say the Salta. I'm not a breakfast food on a long time. This old man. That's always in albuquerque and up featured food is really good food that right spot to go really big on their green and Red Chili The green chilies. The Big One right. Yeah yeah I like green chilly but my favorites like chilies. Like especially with Albuquerque. You GotTa be careful with Green Chili. Showdown there man. They throwing green chilies tough night. Believe it so with Jackson's that's just kind of just worked shift work. I did. Yeah and things. I feel really good about trading partners down there a lot of good partners And honestly the coaches are really dedicated. They put a lot of time in there like it feels like they're always at the gym working out for me. I mean they're always there for me. Open me. And the coaches are thank. You said the partners there so you're still going pretty hard and training. I've heard some pretty fascinating stories about you in the training room. I think it's kind of how you came on. My radar is a group of Friends of mine who were professional fighters talking traded with you. And they're saying in the world class where everybody. Who's working who's Oh dude. He added up all the Shit. Beat the Shit of all right now. I mean after my fight like I was in the room doing Jujitsu so like that but then coach. Gregg in like I was like. I'm going to go home for a week and a half down in Whittier. They're like I'll be good. Please no training like like just because you need to relax because honestly I'll train all the time like yeah. I'm always train as I genuinely liked to do that. I don't really get. It's sometimes it's a problem with too much. Change obsessed with it. Yeah I mean especially after losses to. I got more obsessed with trying to figure out how to calm down in trying to get better like working on positions so yeah. That's a problem sometimes but now I'm luckily for me. I Have A. I'm down here. I can just enjoy riding horses. My dogs run around and Just let the mind relax because like you said he. Don't you have to? That's the problem with mixed martial arts at the professional level is in the NFL. Let you know wanted to take a break. Here lose a game. You're not gonNA make playoffs. You gotTA break some Alex season training but nothing crazy mixed martial artist year round we. There's no break priest and if you're obsessed with it and coach Tony I'm sure. Gsp exact same way. And maybe. I think I'm just. I don't know maybe it's a paranoia paranoid but I know like there's there's Guys in a guys in Dagestan training. There's guys all around the world that are trying to become better to get to one and be the best in the world and maybe I'm just paranoid but I keeps me in check on Mama mentality. it really worked non-stop. Yeah that's that's pretty much what I do And people are like some manual work. Too hard sometimes. But it's like I. I'm sorry I'd rather I'd rather wear car than be lazy. And and like just gotTa worry about is over training. You're not yeah perform. No for sure Greg off the rest of your campus come in The great your last fight so wherever you're working prior to that those two losses how Dr. What time was it because I again at your age deal with that magnitude of I mean in fighting the peaks or fuck the highest f. Allies are there so low low man and now social media. There was too much social media when I was fighting. Some of is now here every opinion. If you pay attention to it how did you get I honestly? I didn't get really really low like I. I really did It's just like a weird time like you said social media with all kinds of stuff like and I just I've gotten to the point to learn to like I don't give a shit anybody say like oh you suck at this. I I kinda just tune it out I really do. I don't really go like and listen to even like when people are saying really good things about me. Like still makes me uncomfortable? You and they're saying bad things. I'm like kind of uncomfortable so I just kind of like. I got some mentality where it's like be feeling. Sorry for yourself inventing. All the time in like manner should have done. This didn't that is not GonNa do shit for you. So that's when that's when I was just I was in Albuquerque at the gym. Working my ass off like that's that was. That was what I was thinking about like. I'm not GonNa talk and feel sorry for myself. I'm going to go in there and figure out what I did wrong and you were and it was a hard time like the couple of times my girlfriend. I have to vent sometimes and talk about on the kitchen table or like sometimes cry like it's just it's okay. Don't worry you're going to be fine skew to keep doing and you're going to be it'll be good and and not to say things won't happen again but I know I'm more well prepared strong-minded and and I'll be good so I the only thing that I can say tell. The young fighters is. Don't feel sorry for yourself. Don't try to say well. I could have done this better. They screwed me on this and that because that that that should go matter black or white lost you go back in the gym and figure out what you need to do to do. Yeah I think for you to A and B. It's like social media age where it's like you guys have to. Mo- mo- most athletes have to deal with this nonstop Kinda Banter. If you're on social media you know Michael Jordan and you know all these greats. They didn't have to deal with the US chuckle. Del You new. Dsp didn't have to deal with social media giving critiqued every single time. He jumped on that instagram. So if you know for the younger fighters that's that's toxic her back the next Lebron James or if they're saying you the next shit. None of that mattered does I. It's so tough even me as a grown man to kids that it's for me. It's tough to be right dude. You don't need any you don't you? Nothing gives the income from that this new athlete especially your age. You guys have to deal with that man so just the already the pressure of fightings along. But then you gotta deal with that. Yeah and then I'll talk. I think for you which kind of you know a kid. With how many do you have told? Eight eight eight fight. Yeah really anyone unless you're just as huge huge huge feed on these days with eight fights. No one's really watching it. It's really not really you know. Get so much attention coming in not that you wanted but you know we all have all the skills so everyone's paying attention everything you do so I think that can make it tough right now. I it's true and then the basing to is the hardest thing is like you get like I mean you're in like when you have two losses like everybody has an opinion on why you like. Why are you sure done this like why? Aren't you relaxing there? Why aren't you using your like? Why don't you Tony l? Go for the tape and then people like like. Oh all wiser promotion. Noonan's why are they sitting out? Honestly got the point where I just tell guys like what is true is not at the end of the day like who. I I was a big boy. I sign on the dotted line. Like I was very well capable of winning those fights and didn't win the promotion falls. This person's fall is my fault now looking back. I'm not a manager. I'm not this. I'm a fighter like I'll fight anybody on the planet. That's exactly what you do. I really I really really will. I remember you know five Thousand Square Garden. I looked at the big know. He's a big fuck. You did why this day and coker that Joe Shop. No one will fight because we can't get anyone to fight the hacking tip so we experienced. No-one read his his level within expansion. We'll fight them. Yeah we we've offered the one hundred one St Kinney and just what we have to do and now like I have some like losses on my record so now people are like okay now Kinda know. What's now guys who will come and get but now I'm like no problem. I have everything I you know physically mentally. My team is in line like I'm ready. I'm ready for you. Know those challenges and I was thinking about this today. Actually the feeling that I have like when I was like on my last to lose the to to losing streak to fight. It is a weird feeling but I still kind of have that in me because it keeps me in check never leave shoulder and your finger lose everything. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah. I'm just like it keeps me in check like even like after the fire like I was still in the gym. I you know Running on the treadmill doing some like because I don't I want to have that little feeling because the only way I can say it keeps me in check like really like should get in tune like I'm not like losing. I'm happy I want. Yeah I'm happy. I won and I won in dominating fashion but at the end the day that was that was the past. Now it's you know fighting like what's next what's not and then you win a world championship. It's like how many times can you defend it? It's an ongoing thing until the day return and even when you retired well. Why don't you fight this guy? You should have him so I just have to just like you said just keep working and do the do you can talk to you again when you get with George George about it. He was just like you know when I retire at then day was always like I never get grass man. I was just world champion on on vacation and you know as soon as I beat. Whoever Johny Hendricks Matthews whoever it is they go all right well. This guy's Netflix. Yeah how would you do with this person and then if you clean out the division and it's like go up how would he do? Never I never forget with Rashad Evans. He won the belt and he came to the gym like a week later and he worked his old training camp with us. In Jackson's they came. And I'm I'm like do so proud of him I do. How do you feel like you know you sat down? And he's like you won't be. I feel no different still got put in the work. Nothing's changed got like this is it. It's not like you're going to become this world champion. They think you're going to be in the get there and you're like Oh thank God I did. He's just another day man but now I have other issues I feel like you WanNa title like you win the world title. It's like you're hungry to win the title but when you win it you should be starving to keep it literally. The toughest job in sports is defending V. Tops thing to do in the world but there's nothing arbor it's the best and the Best Company for Godfrey and they have tapan can download what you're doing and you go in. You Got Coaches I. Greg Jackson all coaches that are in his office. Like I'm not joking breaking every little. Yeah he's Gonna. He's through ten in leg kicks. Okay write this down ten. You should see coming with John. So they're up in their studying guys like to T- for hours like and it's not just greg all. It's no secret. There's there's other coaches all over the world that are breaking. And that's a good thing because it's competition come to shooting elevates the game so we get John here because I'm even more for sure but exam you salsa I've been for a while so so for you if you have a crystal ball. What was the next two three years like for you? How active do you want to be? Is ANY FIGHTS? Want weight classes at feel good at one forty five. I really do I make like I said I make my Featherweight Super Super Easy. No problem for me. I just want cage time. Yeah I really want. I really want to be really active. Is I'm Young. I'm healthy. Yeah and God Willing I say Stay healthy and just changing the cage. Time Experience Yeah. That's all that's all you know fighting January. Yes the year so it's like. Oh yeah how hopefully maybe may June. That'd be nice having you know it'd be three four fights out that would be. That'd be really good I I. I like to fight and I'll that's how we make our money by fighting so it doesn't. It doesn't what you do what I do. So if they have an opponent for me lineup and let's get to work because I enjoy being in fight cabinets. I feel like you're like everything is in order. You know what to do. Yeah so so. We'll see we'll see how it goes but one show for a while and on the big big Fan. Now I appreciate you guys how this game is some people your friends when you're winning and then when you lose you don't hear the phone ring all that much anymore other things allowing your winning but you know you get one shitload coming up. We'll see people thank you. Thank you Pico Lane Joe.

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Two in Ten

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"Thank you for listening to this podcast wine production. Now, available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. You're welcome is brought to you for free today by our friends at bed online. Get in the mix at bet. Online Dot AG, use the Promo Code podcast one for your new welcome bonus that online your online sportsbook experts and the exclusive partner of podcast. One sports net. Coach. Is Bad guy. Not Oven. The feed. This music. comes. Guy. What's happening guys, happy Wednesday and thank you for joining another special episode of you're welcome, -Khamzat Chinmaya of. Wow. Okay. So they call this, Guy Khabib. Two point. Oh I, think that was a pretty fun name. I think now he needs to be known as Homs at. of He is earned his own name in this and look, I, get I. Get the comparisons to be. Does he sorta resemble could be maybe they got the same barber. But when you look at the style, which is very heavy, very pressure based, push you into the fence, which is relevant. All of your shots happen on the outside or just to drive the opponent to the fence, I keep pointing this out. because. Sooner. Or later when somebody's getting ready, for Khabib, they're going to realize those take downs aren't there unless he gets you on the fence. showman. goes out. Okay. He looks great. He forces a double right away a nice long guy. Now, they say he's a fifty five pounds that's moved up to one seventy. I'm going to take them at their word, but I've only seen two matches of his and I'm telling you look at it as frame looking at it, his height looking at his reach looking at the broad of his shoulders I believe he should be one, hundred, seventy pounder. And, he's got to eat a little bit and enjoy life a little bit more and take some time to build into that. I. Just think with his speed. And I also think with his youth. If he wants to have a shelf life, don't put one of these guys that buys in to the fake narrative of cutting weight if I could do good at one seventy that I'm GONNA do great one, fifty, five. This is something that people always fall for now, I don't WanNa make a big deal about his weight, but I am pointing this out to you because his willingness to change wait is also will provide it for him to have an opportunity tonight. Ten days ago. Using the UFC fight island, he gets a win lands. One, hundred, twenty, four strikes in that contest took two strikes back. Comes out tonight. He does basically the same thing I mean this, this could have been stopped well before it was if you were ever to win a fight. By a knockout, for example, K. bias admission, for example, those would be the most coveted ways to win within the sport. Hold that thought. Let me back up to my sport of wrestling a pin would be what is looked at by the rule of forty makers within our governing body. As. The most dominant thing you can do, they're wrong. That's not true. You Penta Guy The guy always can turn around and economy. Sure. You put the economy. The most dominant thing you can do is to technical fall the guy where you get so many points ahead. It's like the mercy rule in baseball, the referees going to step in and stop the game. There's no point in this going any further, you're going to suffer humiliation. We're all done here. That's the most dominant thing. You can do the reason I bring that up when you're talking about could be to point out. The fact that he went out and found a T K O within the very first round. Tell me somebody else. That's done that ever. Ever. There's plenty of people you could fill in. I haven't heard. You tell me one yet. Do you see the problem there to get the most dominant thing that you can possibly get within the sport and to get it within the first round is shocking. To do that ten days after you had just debuted in a foreign land at a different weight class. I don't know a ton about his last two opponents, but I don't need. Nobody goes into the UFC and gets TKO in the first round. Nobody can show an ability of dominance. So great that the mercy rule gets applied within the first round. Yes. Broad stroke nobody I understand that it happens. But if you try to dismiss what just happened, you try to take away from his opponent that will always be narrative early on well. Put Him in there with a rank guy i. get it. You're called a hater I. Get it. Haters are everywhere got that in me to with there is something that you just can't deny when a guy is this dominant. In, the first round. Verdun, just went out with cuffs and we got to back this up a little bit. Okay. One of the problems that Verdun had in his last contest with Nick. He'd been out for a period of time. I WANNA say fifteen months away first meaningful break. He's ever had what came with that break was a significant weight gain. Verdun when he won the world championship, by example, weighed two hundred and forty one pounds. For Doom. When he took on the neck, wait two, hundred, sixty pounds, and he moved like that. He just moved a little bit slower. That was it. So when for doom comes into this fight with custom. There's a major question of how gus do going up in weight. Is he going to be too small, very natural narrative, but there was also a question of is Verdun GonNa. Come a little bit closer to championship. Wait answer was yes for doom weighed in at two, hundred, forty, two pounds, Gusta Senate two, hundred and forty pounds. So these guys are the same. The talk of a weight advantage or disadvantage that's to pounds. We're. We're even right. So. The way that gus moves it two, hundred five. If he could move eighty percent of added heavyweight, he is instantly going to have the greatest footwork, not only of any current heavyweight of any heavyweight history. And quite frankly, he was doing a little bit. I mean gus was coming out. He was Pumping Jab and he was showing for doom. Some real respect. I. Think that probably doesn't just come from sitting on your couch and studying Verdun tapes watching him. Win World. Championships. I think that probably came from some of their practice room stuff, some of the training sessions that we all heard a little bit about that. But it looked as gus was about a half an inch half inch. Out, of range. So it was coming up with some Nice Jabs. He was even coming a little bit lower and he was jabbing towards the Javan towards the body, but they weren't quite landing. All Right, fast, Ford and all of a sudden. He's some combinations for doom says great. Let's go to plan B. M. to take down. So they end up in a scramble for doom ends up on his back and Verdun telegraphs his arm bar. When he's going to go for the problem is it doesn't make a damn bit of difference if you know it's coming or not the whole battle for the bar is that you know Wayne, he's thinking arm bar. The problem is when he brings his head over now, you've only got two options. You can try to keep your hands locked and deal with it from there you can try to escape. When you're caught in the first couple of minutes of the very first round with the two time, Abu Dhabi champion, and one of your limbs is starting to be manipulated. Look that's going to be hard spot for anybody. This was about as picture-perfect of a technique. As, I've seen if you WANNA learn air I'll tell you a perfect because if you WANNA learn how to do an our bar, the right way. Go Watch this fight because Verdun will walk you slow through an almost in slow motion. He's shows you the setup. He shows you the transition from the back. He shows you the step over. He shows you how he brings his leg down as he starts to extend. There's really wasn't very interesting and beautiful technique. and. We have one more piece of the story you're going to be left with the question what is going to do now? I would like to act as though it never happened. If I was team Gus Gus, you went out and fought a guy that you had to avoid one position at one particular time in the fight, which was early you failed at doing that. That's all that happened here. You didn't get beat up. You didn't get hurt and quite frankly just lost to a guy that almost everybody else lost to to take a deep breath. Try this one more time. Hopefully. That's what happens with Gus. But. As it pertains to over doom, he came out earlier in the week when he was doing media and he offered something, none of us knew which he said, this is my last contract. and. You just say this is my last contract. Let's sit down and talk. He says my last fight I'm out of here. I don't know where that comes from. I've always had the impression that everybody likes for doom and Verdun likes, everybody does my impression. I could be wrong I've never asked him that. But. That's always been my impression. So when he came out with a little bit of a stronger stance, no, no, there's nothing to talk about a man of my word, fulfil my contract, and then I'm going. I, I don't have the foggiest idea where he's going and for all I. Know that was no more no less of a media manipulation. The one anybody else comes out and says it maybe doom, it's just a little more guarded and a little bit more calculated, but the point is. We are only left. Guess. What now? For Gustafsen. We're also forced to guess what now. For, renew. Little. Dog Show gun part three. Alright, and I have to remind you that because you may not know he may even be a big Fan. Just want to know that like, for example, the first fight which felt like a few months ago was in two, thousand and five. The second. I was around two, thousand, fourteen, two, thousand, and twelve I. Mean. It's been a meaningful parents actually go out and they fight. And this one seemed as though, you could apply logic in advance and know it was going to go to show gun. Simple logic says, Shogun has been busy. He has been fighting is doing training camps. He is making wait little dog has been out because he was injured, which also tells us not only has he not been in training camps, not doing not making wait. We can't even practice, right. So, you got a guy who won the first contest they're going to go in and do the same thing. Withholding testing in place, which greatly does change how this matches potentially going to go, which again is going to favor show gun. That's not really what happened. I gotTA. Tell you I thought little won that fight? He did not win the decision. I. Thought Little Dog won that fight another thing with little dog was very fun for me as a fan in two thousand, Twelve Olympic Games going to Rio a little dog out of nowhere goes I. Want to be the Olympic representative for Brazil in boxing, and all of a sudden just starts entering like I think it was heavyweight if I'm wrong was light-heavyweight I believe even the heavyweight division boxing. He was doing great I was following his career. He didn't lose I, want to say he had four fights was all. He won them all, and one of those was actually the Brazilian, national tournament. I don't know what the hierarchy and the architecture in Brazil to make an Olympic team is, but I can tell you here in the states. If you win the nationals, you're the top seed going into the trial. So he was one of the guys and then something happened do it, but I only bring you that story because his hands are very good. In the Nogueira brothers are so legendary for their Jujitsu, both of them. Anytime you have a brother and you're both out and you're bull bad asses. You can kind of double. You can kind of double your esteem in half the time. He goes and wins you go win. The audience is all confused you both just, really good. And but he hands little dog had really good hands. But when he got away from this and did not follow through and pursue. That Olympic, dream. I interpreted that to mean the well, he got away from his hands and it was dealing with all sorts of injuries, right? Whether it's the back of the fire the. I'm left to draw the conclusion. So perhaps you did too. That, he must have hurt something upper body something that stopped him from seen that boxing dream through something that partly it over to his that. That's why we hadn't seen him in a period time which went dry to the final analysis. was a very good with the hands anymore something that he couldn't do wrong. Everything's wrong. He looked great with the hands. He was slipping Shogun a sugar them before this fight. He said look I know about your hands, but you know about my kicks. In. It he this guy's a good kicker, but not the pair to be ready for me. He would turn his body sideways at times absorbed. Those those kicks. boomy was come back. Strong shots. Round was very close. I thought dog wanted round two was not close. Nog, did win it round three, not not as close either and also went to show gun. So if you can agree with me that two and three, we all know now we have to go fight over around one. It looks to me like they fought over round one. They made their decision I'll to share with you. My Opinion Nog won the fight loss of decision. I will also offer for you and final statement on Nog because he said, this is my final fight. I am done. Win Lose or draw I am done dog. Thank you for the memories and congratulations on an excellent career. Buying online is a lifeline for lots more people. 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So they know I sent you amazing selection reliably low prices, all the parts, your car will ever need rock auto dot com. Hill versus winokur. Okay now. There's so many expressions that exist within the world of the Free Format Fighting Systems and I don't know if a single one of them is true. But. There has been a phenomenon around since the nineties that all fans want to see is two guys standing on their feet if you do anything but stand up fighting then a boring fight, Robert Whitaker got an two shots tonight. They were maybe the most exciting part of the night where everybody's hoping, he's going to change where this fight is taking place to get it down to the ground. I am not insulting the action within this fight, not in the least. This was fantastic. Mixed martial arts. The just kind of canceled each other out. It's one of those things. Whitaker was doing a little better job of mixing the martial arts till was pretty focused, and here's what I'm. GonNa I'm stand up I'M GONNA get ya. Going to get you. But that's all I'm going to do in any grappling. I'm GonNa, do is going to be defensive to keep me back in a fisticuffs contest. I. Only bring this to you. Because it is a little bit weird and a little bit annoying that the biggest draw in the history of the sport is George saint-pierre. Who did anything but standing bang or you have a fight like this, then everybody's complaining. But. They will be happy to come out tomorrow morning and tell you all how the only fighter that is worth a damn as one that wants to stand up for you. These things just aren't true look. Darren. Till needs some work on a couple of things that he simply can't work on. He cannot go into practice room and prepare I. Don't know that I've ever seen Darren till. Look Better Darren tells had his conditioning question, a number of times Darren. Till now, in the five round club, by the way when I talk about things, Darren just needs to work on their just experience getting in there guys. This is a brand new weight class for him. He's done to middleweight fights ever was against the number one contender, and the other was against the world champion in all fairness, give till a break. By the way, the final score tonight was forty, eight, forty, seven whitaker, which means till's winning rounds, winning moments, I only WanNa, remind you of that because if you look at somebody who schedule. Is more difficult. than. What till has been through? Cowboys Rony. Goes into a world title fight with the Chosen One goes into a gasoline fight. Madison Square Garden that he flew into town four, thirty, six hours before goes into a world title. Five round met with champ. Till's doing a great job, but he can't get those reps and practice. He's still very young. Guy Tillis younger than you. You guys might think for somebody that's done as much as he's done all these main events, all these Cohen Events. Fight in the Mecca fighting the former champions headline fighter. Show trending, Kevin I only sent out a tweet during the show. The show was trending around the world. Number two and all. Of America, trending all over the world for two hours straight only offering you that. Because till's on top of the bill, till's doing some very heavy lifting, he's very young guy. Phil has the right same as anybody out to get some reps in. But the reps I'm talking about don't come from the practice from his coaches are doing a great job. Till getting better. He's also understanding the weight class. It's also very clear that he's putting his energy into the sport as opposed to the weight cut. He's making the right decisions. Give him a minute. Then you look at Whitaker, where does he go from here? My goodness? Whitaker's is close to a perfect fighter. Is. You're gonNA come across and you can have an argument in this direction or that direction I'll tell you right now. Ridiculous scenario genie pops out of a bottle and tells you. So I hear you want to be a fighter. You can train the rest of your life and be as good. You can be by the rest of your life or right now, I'll give you every skill that Robert Whitaker has take that deal. Don't even think I want Robert Whitaker Skills I. mean the guy can do a little bit of everything. The fact that he can go five rounds the fact. winokur really showed. US, tonight because don't forget every fight that he's had for a period of time has been for world championship because he brought the championship, his last fight not only was for a world strap. It set a record for live attendance of fifty, seven, thousand people. Everything I just stated was gone. There was no title. There was nobody in the audience different scenario house whitaker. GonNa. Respond. Perfectly. He went back to his roots. He came through the ultimate fighter. He's in front of nobody before he's fought of been a big fights before fights, he's had to win or else before he reverted back to that. and. That's what the fighters do. That's what the champions do. They find a way to move forward I. Think this was a very special evening. I think that fight was a very special fight, but I think it's going to resonate better over time. If you have any takeaway from physicality standpoint, it would just be the reminder of Whitaker did which was to make sure your mic seen the martial arts. That's very small critique. But that was a very good fight. Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones you didn't see this coming I. GotTa. Tell you. I did not see this whole thing was a gag. I thought Mike was doing a very good job of letting US know this is a cash grab and I'm GONNA walk out there and I'm GonNa do it. I'M GONNA do my part of this, grab a bunch of cash and go home. By the way I thought we as an audience that a very good job of letting Mike. Know we're good with that. No problem, by example, Mike Tyson's putting videos out hitting admits with a coach Hoffy Okay Darrow that are as short as eight seconds as long as eleven seconds, and he's getting a half a million clicks. Hey. Half a million people are stopping what they're doing to watch Mike Punch a pad. I thought that made things very clear. Hey, Mike, you go. Do whatever you want. We're going stop. We're doing it. We're also going to pitch in. He draws. Roy. Jones. I did not see that coming. I did not know it was this level of seriousness. I mean I remember even when people are talking about bringing the Vanderbeck. Okay. Only Prom I. Don't think Mike's looking for a hard out here I. Think he's looking to have some fun. Well, apparently, that's not true Mike did say for very early on, you come up with x dollars and it was a million dollars I believe. Once he seen how many people are interested in this I. believe he's moved that goal I butter very early on, he said first person comes out with a million dollars. I will sign and I'll fight whoever you tell me I'm fighting. Turned out everything. Mike. Said was true. The only Miscalculation Iron Mike head was evaluating his worth. People still want to see him now when you're talking about Roy, Jones, that's very interesting because Roy has not stopped doing this. I was just on a card. I say I say, just it's been a number of years now, but I just grappled Michael Biscuit was like this mixed card. So. Grapple Roy Jones boxes. Shannon rich does. MMA. Kurt Angle and ray mysterious. Come out at pro wrestle, just a little bit of everything. But I only offer you that because Roy great that night. Then Roy even something in between now, and then twice where he went over to Russia didn't like a winner-take-all. Win Over, put it on the line fought over one, stop the guy in both fight. Stop them late in the five stop. One Guy in the tenth round one in the Eleventh I'm very closest as off member of the point is Roy. He's been busy. Rois been doing this and as much as we're all impressed with the way Mike. Tyson, looks on the midst. As ways, we're all impressed at his body can still function and move. There is a reality that he's very openly coming off the couch. He signed the contract for fight, Roy Jones junior with a joint in his mouth. Not Speaking out of school, he filmed it, and then he released it to the world. I also notice and bring this evaluation to you armed with the fact that the odds makers in Vegas have already put Mike as a favourite over Roy. You come to your own conclusion on this. But. Roy has tested himself with the bigger boys. Go back and see Roy's career. When he moved up took on Ruiz just by example, all that hard time. Roy was too fast. To make believe that. Roy, is slow down would be reasonable. To. Make believe he slowed down as much as Mike slow slowdown when Roy never stopped doing it I think is a little bit of a stretch. Now. WHO's GonNa win this fight. We'll take a look at it. They're going to get the training videos. They're going to get us all leapt up back and forth. We're all. GonNa. Have some fun. That was the deal that was the deal we made with Mike. When he came out the idea you do it, we'll back. But it looks as though. Here. and. It looks as though right now that probably would be favoring Roy Jones Junior. Homs that Shemaya of okay. Guys I don't know if I have ever seen a guy looked more comfortable. In. Mixed. Martial. Arts. I'm not saying for a debut. I'm not saying for a guy that did to fights and ten days. I'm not saying for a new guy with a big reputation that gets rounds at sparring with guys couldn't big as Alexander. Gusts and said I'm saying I don't know if I've ever seen a guy compete and look that. Comfortable. Now. Maybe he's an actor. He's a damn good one. He looks as composing relaxed as can be. Now. He and mark. Madsen have got to get put together and one thing that did come out of his two victories back to back. First round stoppages blah. Blah? Blah. Is that they're going to do it again, they're going to live on this gimmick. They're going to run them out one more time. They're saying they would like to get it done within a month. Okay. That would be super cool, and by the way, watch what's going to happen. Okay. It's very hard to build a star because the one thing that you need is a period of time. And I can just tell you in the original days k ninety, three through ninety seven. There was tournaments and not just within the UFC, within the mixed martial arts tournaments. So if you can get a guy to win a turf, you can just hold a tournament bringing eight guys. Whoever comes out of that thing will be a star in one day. That is something that simply can't be done anymore, we don't have tournaments, you can't get a guy three victories in one day, three victories will take the course of a year. Everybody gets three fights in a year and you'd have to be remain undefeated for the entire year. It's a very special thing. If. This guy can go out and get three fights by the way, three wins and do it all. By the time September rolls around, I mean the momentum behind this young man is shocking. But the match to make for him is Mark Matts and make no mistake about it looked marcus into spring chicken. But he's busting on the scene and he's undefeated, and he might not have done it both within two nights, but he's still undefeated. He's also an extremely decorated by credential by resume wrestler. Then, you've got Khabib two point. Oh, coming in this guy's going out wrestling absolutely everybody, but it doesn't have the paper behind him. Compete. One point is the same way he did most of his wrestling and the practice room. In. Dagestan, with war Olympic, champions didn't necessarily go out at Inter. Those competition. So I only offer this were you that if there's going to be a push here, let's go ahead and push. One. Of these guys is as great a wrestler as it appears on TV, but one of them's not. As simple as that. And they're really not at a point in their career where you we need to build and or protect their at a point in their. Hey, is this real or is not because we're I'm sitting at home. This year looks like something very special happening. And I'm giving that both. Two Point, oh, and Manson. There's something there. But I'm I'm seeing the same guy. I'm seeing the same style. I'm seeing this same aggressive aggressiveness I'm seeing these same intangibles, which is an ability in a calmness and a willingness to go out there and compete. Compete, two point has a fight coming up before that fight is announced book. I would like to offer my suggestion. Get Him Mark Mattson. So we've had two weeks of the UFC middleweight division on display whether it was Jack, versus Kelvin weather. It was whitaker, versus till we got one more coming up. Shabazz Ian. Versus Brunson. Guys. We don't have any more clarity now than we did when this whole thing started, we really don't and in many ways. It's very tough to have what we would call a semi-final in mixed martial arts. It's very tough to go. Okay. Here's the fight and whoever wins advances to the championship round. It just doesn't work that way. By example, let's say till would have beaten, whitaker? That's going to give you a little bit more clarity because it also allows a parody. It would make till undefeated within the way class one over the former number. One contender one over the former champion boom, he could go into Oughta Sonya, go into. Kosta. And it's going to be brand new. Fresh coat of paint. Everything's new whole bunch left to wonder that's great for the business. That's what you guys like. That's what fans like. That's what media likes starts to build some ideas. Well, when Whitaker Wins Whitaker's never a bad idea, he just doesn't satisfy the need for parody. Okay. Fine. But hold that thought. Because, it does satisfy the need for parody, ifw, Paulo Beats Oughta Sonya. Now, all of a sudden whitaker's looks like a pretty obvious answer. Well, would all depend how the fight between Paulo, and is the Oughta Sonya wit because of sign he gets upset a lot of people are GonNa? Say, well, we gotta do an immediate rematch to see the problem. The problem. Then you've got show basin the youngest guy in the entire division, the youngest guy in the entire sport who matters. Who Matters in a title picture, let me clarify that say somebody doesn't matter. That would be a little rude prefer tidal picture ship as the youngest guy. Last time he thought he was twenty one years old I believe he's had a birthday sense. He's twenty two years old, and by the way he matters owned by the way he's fighting in a main event away class. That is in need of somebody to emerge. eighty-five is very fun right now, and before you think that you're going to hear any of this ago Ouch Hale. That's got to be really. Really. Bad for morale for you know the fellow eighty, FI- powers with no clarity like that. No. please. Please don't get the wrong interpretation through this. This is awesome. This show bazy and versus Brunson is about to be a main event on ESPN. You understand the relevance of that. They're saying how many guys ever get to fight on ESPN. Let alone headline show owned by the way they are so good. They can headline show with how to championship on the line. A great space to spot to be just understand what's going on the sport. There are some fights out there right now. Truly. That are bigger than the title. We have seen that through history, but very uncommon, very few and far between. For example, whatever connor does next. Can you think title fight that's going to be bigger than whatever connor does whatever Jorge Mas, but all does next, George, Mazda was to fight conor. By example, there's fights out there. That are bigger than the title doesn't mean you need to WanNa more doesn't mean you take your eye off the ball competitor and go out there and try to get that championship not at all. But it also means that if you don't get the call for the championship, you have very special things to do right now just as Brunson. The kids out there on the interwebs are talking about Tyson versus Roy Jones Junior, and the large consensus from the ones on the underground that I saw was. Hey, before you get too excited about this fight fans before you start trying to give an analysis about Mike's Power versus Roy speed. Please understand this is a cash grab. This will be an exhibition sparring and these guys are both in Okay I have to stop you right there. Every time somebody boxes and the boxing fight. Does it go away that boxing fans thought it was going to go they call for fix. Boxing fights are very seldomly fixed back in the olden days where they were, but very seldomly were. They fixed that usually robbed a guy through the judges there was something along the lines of that. These gorgeous work matches I'm going to have to tell you before you come to this very lazy diatribe that these guys are just going to go out there and move around and there's no legacy and they don't care whatever they can run off with is this. I have to tell you. There is nothing more shameful within the sport and your time two of the greats in the history of the sport. If, you think that at some point and Mike Tyson's life. He just going to sail one in and give a big middle finger to the fans and not take a competition that he swore to take seriously. seriously. I mean that would just disappoints me. I would be so disappointed. I'd be stunned that would be illegal. That would be against the law. If this goes through a commission, which by the way they're carrying odds and people part with their money for it be completely illegal. You might still be a big auto. Yeah, but it's Mike's last time. Does he care? They're going to take his license away so well? Roy It's not Roy's last time. I don't think I mean Roy has been pretty busy. Roseman. Pretty active. Roy's got his own a promotional company. Roy Jones Junior boxing. Sometimes, he shows up I. Don't believe that he's GonNa WanNa, go out like that. Either these guys are competitors I. IT feels to me like that's very dismissive and it doesn't feel to me like it's the first time. I've heard this narrative when connor went out and beat up Floyd Mayweather for thirty minutes. A sport that he had never done before round after round being robbed. From him by Nevada state athletic. Commission. People came back and they try to rewrite it and say, well, Floyd was carrying him. Floyd wanted some action and he wanted to go. That's just not what happened. It just shows it silly a real silliness. You can't do that. They would take your license away. No unarmed combat athlete would ever do that nobody in armed combat would do that. Was Overseas fighting in a war and they could have ended a lot quicker. But we thought we'd have a little cat and mouse with it's insane. and. Now, people are talking about these guys are going to go out and they got some kind of Elbow Elbow, wink wink with each other. If. Any part of what you're saying is right. If that turns out to be true there needs to be action taken against them nothing within history of Tyson or Roy Jones, junior would lead you to that conclusion. There's nothing within their trainers or their camps. There's nothing about these guys walking out of of an audience where they've ever tried to do anything within their life other than get their hand raised. I have. No. Evidence. I can prove to you. That, what I am saying is right. I guess I'm just a fan speaking to other fans. Let's you know if you're right. And they're going to do anything but anything other than compete and try to win. That would really let me down. Let's take a look at the heavyweights so. Steep versus. DC. Number of weeks, three weeks away. One of two things is gonNA happen here. Either DC's going to win. Or Steep. Is, going, to win. Now, before you think yet, she'll no kidding I gotta tell you. It's very hard to come up with a prediction for this until the absolute last minute. Okay. Let me, personalize it, and tell you what happened with me. When this fight you got announced for the first time, DC is going to move a first time ever simultaneous champion versus champion never been done before when this fight gets announcement, it was steep. A was the entire time steep. It was just too big steep a steep steep, and there's a reason. Daniel left the weight class steep. The nothing more Thursday of the fight. They do what's called Media Day, but there's an open workout. So Daniel Cormet goes to work. Guys don't forget. They've already done the ultimate fighter. They've done absolutely everything training videos, every piece of promotion you can do. This is the absolute last thing. All that's left on DC's calendars to weigh in the next morning and go out and compete with steep. So. Thursday over the fight. DC does this work out. He grabs a microphone. They're fighting fights going to vegas grabs a micro. Hey, for all you guys, I. Just heard I'm a two and a half to one underdog you WanNa make some money. Go Bet on me and remember one thing I've never lost heavyweight. Never, a fight, never a wrestling match never even around. And as soon as they said, Oh, my goodness DC can win this. It never even crossed my mind for whatever reason that he could win the fight. You got a guy that's left the division going to take on the most decorated heavyweight of all time. This one's pretty simple nothing to see here. Okay. Hold that thought looked to their next fight because that wasn't an overly competitive fight, two minutes. Forty seconds in DC with an uppercut with a hook. We all go home. Their next fight, it appears we're to go see the same thing we've already seen, and then all of a sudden that day of Wayans one day before the contest EP gets on the scale at two hundred and thirty pounds. The narrative changes in a heartbeat, the line starts moving, but it's it's going in each direction. Some people are looking at us. Oh, my goodness deep as at two thirty. He's in the greatest shape of his career and they were put money down and other people are going. Wait a minute steep as lost eleven pounds. Never had any fat on to start with. So now he's taken off eleven, pounds of the only thing he has, which is muscle. That is not a good idea. But this was the narrative and we didn't know about it until one day before the same way that Daniel Cormet. Remind us of factual history of his numbers. Steve Brings in a whole new number, which is eleven pounds less than what he had the first time. So all the dialogue changes will only tell you that because this is one where I have a feeling. We, as viewers are going to change our opinion many times in the next few weeks. Possibly after the open waken way like the first fight and possibly at the way in itself. Based on the number, they both come to the scale too. Steep totta something. He taught us that he can move around a little bit better. He's equally strong and he's a little bit faster winnings closer to to thirty institute forty. Okay. Fine. She never been a guy that anybody said that guy really could use some way. He's just not. He's built the right way. Cormier as wake can fluctuate a little bit and he also has a number. What that number is. What's the perfect number for the perfect match? That's something that we've. We may never know that's kind of a trial and error situation and look back and see how it went, but I'm just offering for you. I think that we're going to go back and forth on this fight. I, think we have the right to I. Think we have the evidence in front of us, being that the same athletes said the same thing at the same weight class for the same amount of time and got two different results. I, think we're GONNA play a little bit of musical chairs with who the favourite is in this fight. The good news. Going to have to play that game for about three more weeks. Help me out with something guys. If you know the answer I do not. So Mike Perry, comes out and he says that he's training with you. L., Romero, it was very complimentary of your. Well, what a what a clashing styles for these guys right mean to stand up guy you well with this decorated wrestling. And Perry called the workouts terrorizing workouts. That's how complementary he was of of his new partner you will. But I was getting something different from this because where we left off, Perry was in Albuquerque. All of a sudden before Perry's last fight with making golf. Perry is not an albuquerque. He is training somewhere by himself with the help of the new girlfriend, which I thought was more for fun and marketing is my own opinion. But. He wasn't a team and so after the fight. This such, a great post fight interview. But he said a lot of things including I. Need to find a gym. I need to find a team. This was not a great idea what I just did. It was just all I had. We were in quarantine left over here, and now I'm living over here and I haven't quite got a band together yet. So the fact that he's training with Yo l, here's my question. Does that mean? He's now part of the American top team because I don't feel like it does feel like if he was part of the American top, he would've said, I'm a part of the American top team. Oh, by the way, just to work with your Romero, that's not how it was worded, which made me think okay. Did he hook up with your well? End Up in Florida, are they doing like garage in gym workouts right now? I don't know. I like that they're working together. I. Don't see anything that could possibly go wrong with those two guys together and I do like the idea of Perry focused. and. One thing you have to have in training k. one thing you have to have is you have to have three things. You gotTa have guys. You can whip. You gotTA. Have guys that can whip you and you gotTa have guys that you push back and forth. Guys that are real close guys that can put it on you guys that you can put it on and so many people think. No, I, only WanNa work with guys that are better only the best guys. What happens there is you end up not being able to get enough offense going that you don't then practice enough offense and you also over a period of time, learn how to lose. It's all you learn. How to do is lose you get beat every single day. So now you don't have any confidence in your technique is your technique isn't working. You're able to sell yourself on the idea of no, it will work when I go with lesser competition. Therefore. You're able to justify losing every day, which is why over time you accept losing every, you gotTa have all three guys. You can whip guys who could whip hugh. But then guys worth real close. It's back and forth. Maybe you went around, he wins two rounds. You went a couple rounds, he gets you. Back and forth, you gotTa have that. So I still have questions if Perry is only with a guy who is telling us is terrorizing him. Who by the way is roughly two weight classes above. Perry. Depending on what day in where Perry decides to go. What Day where you'll L. decides to go. Feel like we need a couple of more bodies here. So. Here's my simple question. Is Perry just out in floor and hooked up with well or has Perry joined the? Sports. Keep coming back. So does your chance to bid on them with our exclusive? We drink partner Ben, online, Major. League baseball is now in full swing and the NBA has also begun. There's no shortage of ways to get in on the. Action. Belen has all the odds, futures and props for you to bet on. Make sure you stay tuned as bet online sat down with ex athletes from the different professional sports leagues as they gave their opinions on what it will be like to play without any fans health risks, and what a championship means for the two thousand, twenty season Nfl Hall of Famer. Eddie. George. 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He made a statement I'd like to read you this statement. correy says, it has been a long road back, but nevertheless, we are back and ready to begin February twenty. First following my last fight I blacked out and collapsed smashing my face on a gravel road. Okay, he ends up in the Er for five days. They run numerous tests and blood work to figure out what happened. I saw a long list of different doctors all but one said it was to major concussions and lack of water meaning. He was dehydrated and food after hiking through the woods for hours a doctor. One doctor. Would tell me it was my heart that my heart had stopped beating and it could happen again. But next time it could happen in a fight instantly my wife. Says that through all of our emotions, she became very angry with doctors because they were very scared. I take many trips to Nyu hospital meetings. Every several different specialists. Doing. Many more tests and undergoing two very painful patient heart. To, find more evidence to go along with one of the doctors notes. He had put a complete halt on my career as a fighter Intel. I was clear that my heart was safe to compete. As of last Monday night. I left the hospital for the final time after my last procedure with a clearance note in hand and the doctor telling me congrats Mr Anderson, you can go back to beating people up. After my fight, the commission medics failed to do the proper post-fight checkup and I went back to Libyan life normal Anderson continues. And I paid a hefty price. This whirlwind five months. I have put a lot of things in perspective as a veteran fighter who in the past has just fought with reckless abandon and no care for rest and mental health. As long as I keep training and fighting I, advise other fighters to look after your health. It took some big shots to my head to put this into practice. Don't let it happen. Happen to you. It took me having my son sitting there. Looking at me in the hospital bed to realize there is life after fight it and I want to be there to enjoy it fights smart train smart, but recover and rest smarter, use your head while you still have the brains to do. So great I, think everything's worked out for Corey. Guys I want to repeat one thing that he said. Kay. Terrible Corey went through this, but it looks like he's through it. If he's GonNa, come out the other side in hand us a piece of advice from his experience I. Want to repeat one. Fight Smart. TRAIN SMART, but recover and rest smarter. That's the takeaway core went through a lot in five months was very brave of him to command and share this. But here his words in here them one more time. FIGHT SMART TRAIN SMART, but recover and rest smarter. Guys, this is a hard sport to do, but it's also a hard sport. To plan a schedule around K. The one thing that is different from MMA than possibly any other sport and certainly any other sports league is there's no season. So when you when you have these other sports that have a season that even has a built in rest period that even has okay. These seventy eight totally off. Stay up late, sleep. If you need to eat some bad food, you're off, you feel like lifting or go and getting some sprints in, don't do it. I. Mean. That's a built in. That's a very real thing and the coaches and the trainers and the authorities that put these break periods in are doing. This is particularly important for young athletes. Particularly important for a guy whose body is still growing for a nine year old for a twelve year old for a high school kid. You're not only freshening their body. You're not only letting all the cells and. We could talk about the physiology of it. All we want, but you also want to rest their mind. You want them hungry the number, one thing you want to do as a coach. Is motivate, your athlete. You want to teach them the sport. That's the last thing you do and you do it and it's important. But that's the last thing you do the number. One thing you do as a parent as a coach as the support as a principal as an authority figure as a promoter as you make sure that they come back tomorrow. That, they want to come back tomorrow. The tomorrow's turned into weeks. The weeks turn into months. Months turned into years. That's what's known as a career. So you WANNA start with his motivation which involves keeping that mind fresh. The only reason I bring that up. It's very relevant to what cory's going through. The accords going through as he comes out of a match, he goes. Okay, I'm in great shape. I just trained just peaked I did everything right I eight rights slept right. I went I. had my match win or lose I. DON'T WANNA lose this momentum. I don't want to lose his great big snowball that I've built up over time. So I'm going to get right back into the gym. Yes, that's awesome. But there's a way to do it right back into the gym, does not mean right back into sparring in the gym. It could mean, okay, the next two weeks. I'm going to work every day because I, don't want to lose this this base, this level of conditioning and I'm going to see nothing more than a treadmill by example. The next four weeks, all I'm going to see is a treadmill, a heavy bag. The next six weeks almost sees a treadmill a heavy bag in the pile, just by example. But this Evan flow is very important. It's very important not only for the recovery of the body but. Hungry Why? Talked about getting your mind fresh? What I'm talking about is. Finding that motivation, every coach will tell you have to be motivated. You have to be driven. You have desire you have to want it. Yeah. Those are great words and they're helpful when you have them. But. There's other things that you can do charge that battery up and one thing that has proven over time to make an athlete want to continue to do athletics. is to, stop, Him. At some point, you stop them seven weeks. Eight weeks seems to be the sweet spot. You Stop Them. You make them get that hunger back that desire. Every day in Africa and do I WanNa go to practice today? They'll always be grateful when the practice is done. But every day before the work. You start to find these reasons to not go. That can go away when you're forced to not come when a coach locks the door when a coach calls you and you can't come in. I'll see in a month. I only share this for him because very tough balance. What Corey Anderson did, and the reason he ended up in the spot is because he was a hungry driven motivated dedicated athlete. But Corrie himself is now coming out and telling us. Those are great words, but don't forget one more. That's also a great work be smart. Be. SMART. Is An, athlete, it's hard to do more. It is harder to do less. It is harder to put the reins on. It is harder to leave the room after one hour when you're used to train an hour and fifty minutes, it's harder to do less. But. Doing less at specific times in specific exercises within the sport is two coreys point. Smarter. Our guys. Let's do some fan questions in the feet and the undisputed chill on question which you see champion. Do you had the horrors road together built? Oh, the road to the hardest. You know, you're the second person to bring that up. There was a top going around social media week ago, and it was who is the greatest fighter to never be champion. And that was an interesting one because that's also open for interpretation, like by example, the best fighter in every even be given an opportunity to fight for the championship I would have to put his Jacques Ray. But. Damian Maya. Went on quite a run to. I'm well aware the Damian got a couple of titles shots. But it looked as though he should have had another one matt. Brown won seven in a row and it's possible. He won eight Leon. Edwards. is currently sitting on eight. Just by example, some of the guys that never even got the opportunity. So, then you have to look at also the guys that did the opportunity in came the closest, but then leave with it and I think that's very obviously Gustafsen. Two different nights, Gus could have been world champion two different nights. The fight with JJ, the first time, the fight with DC, which was a split decision by the judge that he did when he's got to be the closest. But. Your questions a little different, which is who had the hardest path and I think you're gonNA be left with nothing more than an argument there. Right? I mean I would have to even go back to the guys. The original guys voice, Gracie's of the world. That had to do the tournament and go through three guys in one night when there was not even away and it was all open class and you're giving up fifty pounds. Three different times in one evening. That sounds pretty hard. I mean that sounds like what you're asking me that sounds pretty hard. or You could look at somebody like Matt Sarah. Who to get the opportunity had to go through the ultimate fighter? That is the toughest tournament in all of sports and the ultimate fighter will change you. It will absolutely change you I, I went through it twice as a coach, but the first time I went through it. I was Vinnie was there and then he was Ju Jitsu coach, but he was a participant through the ultimate fighter himself. So he had that experience and he I remember he told me this on the very first day and he said Shale I followed the so closely and I lived through it I'm telling you now. Whoever you go to bed tonight, it's on our very first day. Whoever you go to bed tonight thinking is the best guys all the way down to the worse guys that is going to flip. Because it becomes a mental game. It becomes very mentally draining and the guys in the house are also having an Alpha right now, and they are going to identify who the strongest and the hurt is, and then they're gonNA plans around him. That guy. Is Not. Going to be in a few weeks. He's remember when he told me that because I remember thinking. You're wrong. That's a weird thing. You're telling me Vinnie thirty days later when the process is done, Vinnie was spot on exactly what he described. Offer that for you, because Sarah had to hang on, get through three guys including schone. Carter, who front not for nothing. But had beaten map before Spain spinning activist. So. Then when they rematch, the ultimate schone hits back I again, I mean, that's a hard thing. When you gotta go through somebody who's already beat, you just is not to mention everybody else Oh and you're only reward for doing that as you're going to get locked in a cage. With the greatest to ever done it. Oh, should I mention you're GONNA have to go into enemy territory to do. So I, think when you look at it like that, you have to consider Matt Sarah I would make the same argument for Michael Spain. I mean, almost identical. You look who beat, but you also have to look at the fact that he wanted to ultimate fighter and one thing Bisbee never gets credit for because people. Forget it. See One ultimate fighter at two hundred and five pounds. Only fight, he lost it two hundred and five pounds was to Rashad Evans who went on to be a world. Champion is current hall Famer, and by the way that was a split decision. One judge thought this being one was two, hundred five. then. He goes down eighty-five, even the night where he was given his opportunity, he was a last minute replacement. It gets loot Rocco, who had already beaten him before he took the fight on eight days notice. That sounds really hard. That's your question who had the hardest road. You can keep this game going, but I feel what I just laid out for you. Qualifies as hard. Uncle Fail. The Beth. Israel because you. Because that have a nice interest breakfast. For you. The only one. WHO Doesn't think he'll be coming in deserves a rematch. That he's you know the number one contender. No I I don't think he's ever lost round I, think the only person. Is Ever lost round against. Is the Kobe Covington other than one judge in the Mazunov? And? Hobie Covington I don't think he's ever lost around before. Other. Than Against Tomorrow Zeman and I understand. Yes, he was stopped. But. If that style of fighting is no way. No. One's going to you know get stopped when you fight the way those two fought. and. When I see those two fight I, it gives me. Memory like I, kind of compare them to the GOP Johny Hendricks rivalries. What I see in them, I think those are. Clearly. The two best welterweight S- You know that lives other guys could crash the party but I think they're a little bit above the rest of the field, not that whatever he's very, very away class. But? Everybody I feel like you know, Covington that showers off, he fights masks at all nothing win. That will back in the mix I. Don't. I don't know about that. Now, I think that you know I think that those to look very well, i. think they showcased skill. We didn't know they had their striking. in my opinion, it was one of the best fights of all time. That's one of what your opinion is on that because I feel like a lot of people aren't really giving Covington no, the credits do we fought an awesome flight and For the best performances even though it wasn't his way I thought it was awesome performance. Thank you. Thank you for the reminder. I'll join you for breakfast. I gotTA. Tell you this. I listened to that question. I think you're attempting to do is to make sure your complemented one hundred and seventy pounds for the depth. A weight class where you're making an argument. Of who should be going against the champion owned by the way, you also think there's guys who can beat the champion. You've got a really great weight class. Now, when you are Osmond I heard, you say that he had ever lost around except for those two colby and the one judge had Mazda winning one somewhere along the way who's been lost a fight and I never saw it. I've looked forward. Forward. I can't find. I don't know if it was early in the USC after he won the ultimate fighter, I don't offers on the regional seen before he busted on, but he's got a record of sixteen and one, I. Don't even know who that one is I feel like we should know right with the champion of the world. Only lose one fight I. feel like we should know who that's to. I've never known. I, do want to tell you when you are talking about Okay Gilbert birds is GONNA be next by example, go back a week ago Tyron. Woodley, certainly earned the right to an opinion within that weight class said, Gilbert, Burns is going to win. The ground fight? My question was. Is, Tyron is tired of Woodley Sane Gilbert Burns is going to win the portions of the fight that end up on the ground or. is T would sane predicts Gilbert to win by taking it to the ground and. And beating Kamara look. It doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter. Those boys are going to have to go figure it out. But the mere fact that he top contender and a former champion in the weight class who has fought both of them giving Shiny Gilbert Burns. ADDS to the idea that, yeah, we we put Gilbert in there and the point that you made about colby being hardest. Absolutely. That's true and you want to know who would agree with that statement who's been. Who's been was cool. After that fight, he said man I thought, I beat this guy a lot easier. That's guys tough guy to see him again, and when he climbs backup I'll give him a shot. I will tell you one thing on that fight. So close. It's so dirty. Dirty right from Jump Street, and these guys are going at in that building man that tencent in that building they into the fifth round is to a piece that's official three judges. It comes down to the fifth round and then you have the controversial stoppage. Controversial in that Kobe, Covington disagreed with the stoppage when you have fights like that, you redo them. You run on back. You make the fight that night at the press conference. One thing we figured out tonight. Is it of Kamar who's The baddest dude? Kobe's the second? One thing we found that would-be said at the press conference, you re book the fight. What happened is there was a false rumor. The Kobe had his jaw in the fight. There's no way to rematch a fight at least right away until you find out what medical issue guys going through. How long is? We're GONNA have to wire this Josh does it? One all going to go into it. So. That didn't get remarried look I do think that fights going to be made. Colby t would are going to square off. Something's going to happen with Leon but it's not right away and Gilbert's GonNa. Go Fight Kamarck. I'm happy to have this conversation with you or anybody else as many times as we want to have it. But generally these conversation stop. Once fights are announced. We have these conversations debating what fight should be announced these. Pfizer. announced. So sit back. Let's enjoy it Gilbert Burns. It earned the opportunity. He's taking a guy. He knows well in a former teammate of Comorros when we have something to look forward to there. By the way anybody else likes what we're doing here with breakfast. This is from magic spoon and you can click on the link below grab a variety pack. Be Sure to use the Promo Code Shale at checkout. You're going to get free shipping or just go to magic spoon dot com slash chair I never planned to turn this into a little plug for this wonderful cereal, but I felt like you really helped me. I, feel like we did something here. Jail, you've been part of live athletic competition during this global pandemic with submission underground. You've observed the Herculean efforts of the. You have to put on a series of international sporting events on fight island. Now, with the twenty twenty one, Tokyo Olympic and Paralympic Games just one year away and twenty twenty to Beijing. Winter. Games not far behind at this point, in July, of twenty twenty. Do you believe the Olympics will proceed. And if so, what will that look like? Want to know your thoughts Oh dom. Yes. I. Do I really do and okay. So let's back up to what you said. You were talking about the huge efforts, Dana White had to go through to bring his sport back and nobody was wrong there. Let me just remind you the first show Dana was going to bring back was going to be on April eighteenth, and that was going to be called UFC to forty nine. So David did not tell everybody what his whole plan was when he said. Said, no look I got this. I got experts. We've taken every precaution. We can move forward and do the safely. He he was working so hard. He didn't have time to come tell the world with that idea was. So Dana Wasn't wrong, but the people that stepped in front of him came, the politics were involved here, but the people that stepped in front of him because they weren't armed with the fact that it was going to be something different than had been for the previous twenty years. They were to say, no, we can't do this when the whole thing worked out. Okay that they did it work. I'm going to do to forty nine. I've got to move the date but allow me to tell you all. This is going to be ok well, that changed everything. When he started talking about the bubble and the rooms and the mask and the quarantine, and the way that we're going to get meals all the way, the way they were to get, Lennon's they were going to cut weight separately commissions coming I, mean, this was a big deal. This was extremely well thought out all the way to the post fight interviews all the way to how the fighters are going warm up. Everything was thought out. So once Dana comes out and says, look, there's ways to do this. We figured out, we are going to go and do it. then. He's very transparent. Anyone who dig if fly boom they got flagged. Here's how we out and here's how we're dealing with everything was transparent will as soon as you start to see that and go. Oh okay. We had no idea you were going to do any of those things. We had no idea. All these changes would be made and you're right. That sounds extremely safe. So Dana. I'm GonNa, help you one step further. I have all of this written down. Everything we're doing is off the top of my head, got a team that wrote this thing down. This is called a blueprint. I am giving this to anybody who asks. Now. Everybody Thought Dana. He'll give it to Roger. Goodell. He'll give it to the NBA. You're a hockey guy, go ahead and take an Olympic shore and see you bet, no, Dana, give to anybody if you're a high school. If you're a junior I if you're a little league coach, get hold of my office, tell me the facts and get your copy of well that was huge, and as you do look at what has happened with other sports, they are taking that blueprint and some of them have changed a little bit good for them. And some of them are delaying a few good for them. Nobody's wrong here. But it is important as we look forward and we start to see there's ways to do it. I mean, this is a very real thing. I just went through it domino's with belot. Over the weekend, we go out to the Mohegan Sun in Connecticut and I got briefed on everything that we're going to do and in all fairness I don't know if that is something we're writing down to look a certain way or visit in fact, going to be policed and carried out as it's written to the letter letter of the word if you will, it was carried. Carried out a bubble, we had a portion of the casino was locked off before we were allowed to get on an airplane. We had a submitting negative Cova test to by the way that had to be within seventy two hours of boarding set airplane. The second we land, we go to a covert tests report back to our room for forty eight hour quarantine. You cannot leave the room for any reason including food. Until the results of that test comeback now, I'm just offering a few suggestions for you as to what's happening but This. Appears to be a very real thing. The NBA, having some great results with it. The NFL is talking about getting some close to that baseball's talking something to getting close to that. yaws island is one hundred, percent, ten Mile Square radius bubble. When you talk about the Olympic Games girl, you are talking about Olympic Village, you have built in bubble. You have been built an area. The distancing appears to be something that people really want to lock onto. Of course, you've got all the basics that we learned about what the rubbing into the washing of the hands and the touching of the face. Mask some of these protocols. Yes. Yeah. I. Really. Do think that they're going to have the games i. think in many ways. Had we known when we canceled the Games? What we know now I in many ways I think we could be doing this year. Understand. We're not nobody's reading the Games we were scheduled to start. Less. Than a month I'm just sharing for you the yes. Now, we've got not only the rest of that. We've got thirteen months before the Olympics. Yes. Yes. The, Olympics are going to go on. This is your welcome with jail and. Did you know right now gyco is offering an extra fifteen percent credit in car motorcycle and RV policies. That's fifteen percent on top of the money. GYCO could already save you. So what are you waiting for your dog to make breakfast in bed, your Belgian waffles and a fresh fruit compote as nice as that sounds, that's probably never going to happen. But at least there's no better time to switch to geico save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh visit Geico Dot. Com to learn more. Now back to your welcome with Jail Sunan. Let's Talk Khabib. Okay. So backup. Versus Gay Chee mid-september. Everything that's been very public going on, with Khabib, and his family in the morning process, and then we were given an update that fight is on, it's going to happen sometime in two thousand twenty that got narrowed down. So take the original mid-september move for a month. It's going to go down in October, but in conjunction with that news, coming out onto beat. Dana White has now showed for the first time that he is open to the idea of Kabieh versus gs. And he said I, Love Khabib. And I don't think there's anything I would tell him. No. That's where this topic came up. I'm very close to the quote, but it opened the door for the very first time and it seems as though. That is one topic that his just sustained throughout times throughout a pandemic throughout different shows, different headlines, different champions, different contenders. This idea of getting Khabib George together just hasn't seemed to go away. and. The one thing that has always stopped it historically. Is Dana Simone interested in that. I don't love the fact that George Saint Pierre. Came back into one, five, hundred, eighty, five pounds walked away. We've got no champ. I love that idea and this time. Georgia's telling me upfront. If he can grab fifty five, he's done right off in the sunset, I'm going to relive what I already went through. The first time. Today he's now saying, you know if this is something that could be really wanted. So I guess my way to interpret this first off. That's good news because I enjoy the topic that match happens or not I think the topic and the dialogue is fun for everybody involved. In Georgia's one of these guys very similar to Connor who has left the sport, but who guys keep calling out. Were guys, still see an advantage. Generally anybody retires. You tip their hat, you wish them well in that. See it. For Connor, George current athletes still see something there. That's that's a respect and fairness. That's a major respect. Kamar. Showed that respect to George Khabib is showing that respect of George. But I think of where to take Dana. Words. And in all fairness, that might be a little extreme. This could've been an offhand comment, but if we're GONNA take him at his literal words. That I guess all we need is for Khabib. To be gay cheesy and then ask for the fight. Sparked a little bit of a debate over here at the studio and we've got Dana saying, yes, we have Kabeba on record in the past saying. Yes. But now we have Saint Pierre, whose idea was initially saying I. Don't know about that and that is true Georgetown and interview a week ago in George said you know sometimes? I. Really WanNa do it I'll watch these guys on TV and I'll still think I could be the most. Motivating I particularly feel confident in myself when I get done training, but then I, go home and I cooled down a little bit which means the endorphin start to go away whenever you're training. There's a little bit of a high. That high comes from the release of endorphins that come through Gideon sweating getting your heart rate up. So you're not always thinking that clearly, you'll see guys in the octagon all the time. They'll give an interview right after the fight say something crazy and they'll get to the press conference and they'll bring it down a little bit. Well, that's the orphans. That's that highness coming through and so George said, you know sometimes I'll go home from training. Car Ride. Home, I feel like I'm GonNa jump back in there. I. Get home. I had dinner a cool down and turn the TV on think if I WANNA go through another one of these training camps. So. We are left with a very clear answer from George. If he still wants to do this but I do have to look into that. Go I was Georgia's idea. It's something that he wanted to pursue. He was told no about now doors getting more importantly. Before you read into too many of Georgia's statements. Make sure you do look at one comment. He made very clearly, which is after training. He's training for something. He is training for something. There is some reason Georgia's in the room. There's some reason that George is in the room. So often that he is still dominating the room. You can't just pop into a gym like Georgia's that is still be the guy unless you're in there all the time. Oh, by the way getting a second workout at some point, they'll just pass you by be one of the guys be good workout party. It'd be more than welcome to be in there, but you're not going to dominate the room. Best fighter ever is still dominated one of the best teams in the world. Do I have clarity on this. No. Do I have an opinion? Yes, I. Think we're one step closer to Kabaeva saint-pierre. Guys, there's some records in mixed martial arts, the just aren't going to be. Now only time is going to tell the answer to that question, but there are some that we would predict and I don't mean silly ones like he was the first. Okay. Great. You can never be the first again, Heus Gracie. By example, I. CAn't Imagine Anybody in the AFC is ever going to win three tournaments because they stopped doing tournaments so. To exclude those and to talk about ones that we see that are still mentioned, say in common talk on a dot com, you might click on in a magazine on the broadcast. By example, there are three that I would be very surprised. If I am ever around to see beaten first off is most wins. Now most wins is currently held by cowboy ceremony. That's twenty three fights. So you gotta understand an athlete gets offered three nights a year. So I you're going to have to make it into the organization. Then you're going to have to accept all three of those Pfizer offered Oh, and by the way, win them for eight straight years. Just to have the opportunity. To Be Cowboy just to have that opportunity. Now Jim Miller is only one or two fights behind him. Jim Miller is still an active fighter. So, Jim Miller, even tie him. When you know that cowboy is still active I mean if they just keep plugging away cowboys days ahead you take Jim Miller, it's going to take somebody eight years winning every single thing that's ever offered to them just to get a tie. Fastest. Knockout currently held by the BEF, champion. That's another tough one. I, just think that's five seconds. Could you? Get across the cage and get to a target in five seconds. Let alone knock him out and don't forget. Knockout time means you'll landed that you got to. You landed the shot. He went down the referee took notice of what happened. Takes a beat for the referee to step in waving off and the timekeeper to stop the clock. All of that has to happen. In five seconds. In, ultimately, turnaround time which right now goes to compete two point Oh. Turn. Around time of ten days. We going to see anything like that. I'm all for I. Only have one resentment to this entire sport. I love the sport I hated that we only got to fight three times a year I hated that want to go every single weekend couldn't figure out why they wouldn't let us fight more off it. Well, he got to basically do that. Ten days apart. Now, they're going to bring him in in less than a month. Okay. Of which we've already knocked down five of those days within twenty five days. He'll be in there hopefully, against Mark Madsen, we'll see how that all plays out, but could you imagine a scenario where somebody fights? Again. In less than ten days, they don't get all ten days that would tie the less than ten days. Very tricky to beat. I mean, for most purposes, we don't even have shows that often we're very strange time right now where we got one two three shows and eleven days. You generally don't even have an opportunity to the by the way. This was also a different scenario because there were a set location. Generally that. Octagon. His Mobile. That things moving around. You can't even get two point eight to point. B. In enough time. So, there's a lot of things that factored into this. which is also gonNA suggest for you I. Don't know that I'll be around. To see anyone win more fights. Donald cerrone have a faster knockout Jorge Mas or get as quick of a turnaround time. To. Point. Dana came out and he was talking about a possibility of. Ski, versus. Holloway. Part three. And, he started a week ago and he said man, that's that's not a hard fight to sell me on I. Get it. I get why they would fight again, but he's come out a little stronger and said that's the fight I would like to make. And I. Said I could understand why the champion invoke enough ski would like something new and so can I. I would not blame Volkogonov Sqi even a tiny little bit. He women did something. He then went and did it again. What do you want after that happens? There was a fight. That I was involved to just as trade partner, but Dan Henderson was training to fight Murillo Bustamante. So they went over and fought, and there was like a head butter something weird happened and Dan wins the fight and boost company did not like that decision. I think it was. But whatever happened. They thought they should get a rematch. So they did one and that fight went longer and it also went to Dan and team Bustamante started to complain and Madeleine told the story he was in dance corner and Matt like stop the guys right as they started complaining Matt Stop, because? That's twice. And the Brazilian top team stopped in their tracks and go. Yeah. You're right. We won't. We won't say a word. Dan You. We're. We're not here. There's something to that is all I'm saying if somebody goes out and does something twice. I don't think that it's right for any of us to then question, Volkogonov, ski. Particularly, when he just saying I, just want someone new Max wants to go down and reclaim this again, but I'm champion right now. I. Get that it's a window and I I want some fresh blood myself I get that completely. I also see we're in a very unique spot here where many people thought Max one, the first one I mean enough people to get the the hairs up on Volkov's skis neck to ask Dana to rematch him. So he make it clear. The second one was more clear than the I in my opinion that. Max One. So? You could see where everybody's saying this. But let's let's just play along. Let's just play along real fast and say. A third fight. Let's say Max's pizza. Is there any way that they don't then have to go do a fourth fight would there be any reasonable way. We're Max all the way because we're done here. I got it. I'm moving on where's the Zombie at? Her take again, what's this guy? I'll be right. That would not be right. He'd have to give Vulcan off Sqi that same opportunity which means they're going to fight for a fourth time. What if Max wins that fight now, they're tied up to a piece I. mean you see the problem here or at least a potential problem here? At some point somebody is going to have to put their foot down and say, no new blood. In Volkogonov ski is the Guy To do that just pretend play along with me. If if Vulcan, enough skis the guy to do that. This isn't one of your typical scenarios where the champion is trying to get an easier night. Go look at one hundred and forty, five pounds. If he says no to Max, then he is saying Yes to one of three people, Rodriguez. Beat or the? Zombie. I. Mean. You're out of the fireplace and ended the frying pan. Very tough wait I. Get all arguments. I personally just as I personally think those to have unfinished business I really do. I did not see those fights. The way they got ruled. It sounds like I'm not alone if we're talking about doing it part three the same time. If I'm in Vulcan off, Ski Spike. I've already done that twice. Did It have fun? The first time didn't have fun the second time, but I did what was asked to give me somebody I got no problem with that either. Oh this just in while I was taking a little coffee break. So it turns out could be two point. Oh Whose actual name is Chamois? It turns out that Shemaya of. Okay. Let's back into a bit of a correction here. Shemaya fought twice in ten days. Yeah. I got an old news. His second fight was at one, hundred, seventy pounds. I did the very simple math because I knew he had fought in two different weight divisions. I did the very simple calculation that his second fight of which was at one, hundred, seventy pounds. Obviously. He was coming up from one, fifty, five to one seventy, right. If he fights it, two different weight classes, whatever he fought at last is the heavier weight. It's the only way that he could make the only way that he could do. It turns out on. Wrong. His whole reason, I've been calling for him to fight Mark Mattson. Fifty five. then. He's showing respect and honor to be by calling. Himself could be two point and nobody else did an interview where he could be the best. But soon, I will be the best. Oh, wow. He's on a collision course for Kabaeva soon as he gets back to that normal way to one, hundred, five turns out. He fought his first fight at one eighty five. Who? The. Heck. Loses fifteen pounds in ninety days. While on an island, not for nothing. Okay. So I looked into that. Call my producer Ryan Up I. Go. Ryan. I'm being told that you might have did this I fight at one, eight, five, five at one seventy. How's that even possible Ryan Shale? That is what happened, but he did not weigh all of eighty five when he fought at eighty-five, he didn't cut wait for eighty five and they couldn't even more weight for seventy. Seventy is a really small eighty-five pounder should probably be at once every few pounds and got on the scale go. Okay. Great. But I got to bring this to the people because if the people have been misled the way I have been misled I use logic I used history, I put my I felt the golden rule. Put yourself in somebody else's shoes. I followed the Golden. Rule. I can't wait in two, zero, five and nine days later in the ring ten days later, faith away class below. Turns out to be a two point Oh. Can do just that. So then. I. Really. Like this guy like his attitude. I'm going to get him what he wants. Now, don't mistake Dane as words for what he wants with who he wants. They just not saying this guy's got open reigns to my office come in and tell me what's going on. He was speaking in the context of the request of a quick turnaround fight and Dana Saint that that is what he wants, and that is what I'm going to get a make sure you understand that for one. So I've seen that circulating a little bit on the the interwebs and the kids had it. Wrong? But secondly, it does leave you to wonder who. And the smart marks on the underground forum have found out that the same day that it was announced that Shemaya of will get a quick turnaround within thirty days to quote. Donald CERRONE started training camp. I do not believe that you're my of Donald are going to fight. I cannot rule out the fact that Donald foreshore will take that fight. For, sure. Don't even have to call and ask just make the announcement, and that's just how cowboy works. I don't particularly love that fight. I really was interested in Cowboy I. figure out, does he want to go fifty five or one seven? I mean I just think there's a little bit of time that can be given to cowboy. But. If you look at a poll somebody with some balls and it's GonNa, take some courage. And get them into the cage yes for four. Sure. You could make that fight. No question. To. My of himself said, his alternate wish would be one seventy pound fight and it would be against Damian. Maya. Now, we asked for my specifically because he said, that's the only guy where I can show the world. Just how good I am at grapple. That would be interesting to me. I've always wanted Shemaya to fight Mark Mattson. Because if he could get marked to the ground. He's going to answer a ton of questions about just how good of a grappler is. The other side is once you get to the ground, what can you do and Damian? My would certainly solve at bill. So it sounds like we've got a few good options out there. Cowboys training for something whatever that is going to be of interest, and I will certainly bring that to you. Once we know the kids under underground speculated that that's against your mile. Dana has cleared the air force to know that Yester- my we'll be back soon. I don't think that we can connect all of those dots just yet. I still do like the idea of Mark Manson however, I also thought that. Was a one, fifty, five powder, who in the hell makes to weights in nine days and chooses the lower weight second. All right, guys. Let's call it. But we will be back on Friday and tell that. I'm. And and you. Are. Welcome. Thanks for listening to your welcome with jail son download new episodes every week at podcast. One DOT com. That's Podcast Owen E.. Dot. com. I. Welcome to fair debock twenty twenty presented by online on your host Bram. Weinstein we have an amazing panel of guests. Today. You see Harold Reynolds who played infield in major. League baseball for a number of years, you can see him every day on the MLB network these days in his prestigious broadcasting career. Any George won the heisman trophy back in the nineteen ninety, one of the best running backs in Houston oilers, Tennessee Titans history, and Robert. Ory. Is One of the most clutch basketball players in NBA playoff history. A number of different championships with three different teams over sixteen years. Hyde. All of you. Thanks for joining us today. Place. Also. Let's switch over fans, and let's talk about what's at looks like what that feels like. Eddie played it Ohio state. So you played at one of the most iconic legendary venues that there is an American sport played in the NFL as well. So let's start with you here. The idea of playing football games without fans that that feels like what to you. Know what it feels like and it's it's not. It's not fun. It's You need. The energy, the feed all. Of Your your your whether your home, your home media, you need the fans support you. When you're you're down, you're trying to figure out how to. Or stew adversity as a team on a, you need the fans support, and also when you're on the road, you were opposing teams feed off the same type of energy. So the fans are wearing watch a part of sports anything else. They are definitely play a role in it, and that's the whole point. Is They give and say, that's why they have home field advantage will home. For Advantage, home field advantage is a deadly a field to it to see it's. Like a spring practice if you will feel like any. Of were five scrimmage, you're not gonNA have very much meaning without the thanks WanNa be a different feel. Robert for you. I mean your league, they're going right into the playoffs and there's no fans are what was your experience like having fans in the stands for playoff games and what does it mean to you to not have them in what is the biggest moment of the season for the NBA? Well, for me, I've fed on fans energy in an also love going into a different like visit teams arena, shut him up because it was nothing more satisfying than shut them up in. No, having that thrill, but I think sometimes People don't understand how much athletes we need fans. We Love Fans, and we appreciate him. Greatly, I know a lot of time. We're GONNA act like we don't by not signing autographs, but we really appreciate spans because they give us a energy in the fourth quarter order and. They, excite us to get over that mountain top. I. Think about we played Portland in game seven of Western Conference, finals and game for. Game seven in the fourth quarter down twenty points. But we got those fans behind us to to come through and make them nervous that helped us. That's why you play for homecourt advantage. Just moments like this when you need those fans behind you to get you over the top. So it's hard to play without fans, but I will say this without fans you go see who is the best? Who has the heart and the mindset to get over the top because they don't have the bands, the push a given the extra mile. So now, the truth, the trump talented people are gonna come through the end. I gotTa tell you though it'd be held as a fan. That is one of the unintended consequences here of all. The things that we've always wanted to hear that we weren't sure was ever really going on. Eddie I'm curious with in football some so much vocabulary shared from team to team. offline plays and stuff like that. How will that play? It's and that's that's a great point because you know the. Patriots. They got in trouble for. AUDIBLES, they're getting their the signals knowing they're checking they're getting. So that's that's GonNa, be interesting 'cause the half of crowd noise to mute that out helps and you can't pick up on things, but you can pick up like You know check with me. You know going, right? You know a wrangler in in left the whatever it is, I, mean, you can. You can pick up one of those things. So I think the NFL in terms of game planning week-to-week, they're going to have to change their vocabulary to communicate what they want from plate of. And it's be interesting to see how that happens. From a health perspective, we've established you guys just some level would miss the fans in their presence, but but but what concerns you have about people being in the stands in general. Well, I think if you want to get through the season. Is GonNa to be without fans. 'cause you just you can't risk a fan coming down shaking somebody's hand. Your natural reaction somebody says, Hi to you. You reach out your hand, right fist pump whatever. What happens if a player contacts Cova through a fan? You gotTA contract contact all the fans and you're going to sell the team down I. Just think it's difficult enough to keep the team clean and healthy. And not to involve fans and I know that's not what everybody wants to hear but I think that's where we're at right now, and like I said, this is every ever-evolving who knows by the time we get to September, it might totally be different, but I think for now's were starting up in trying to just get players on the field. I find it difficult to think they're not going to interact with fans. It's just a natural thing to do. So I think that complicates novel. That's just my thought Eddie. What about you you? You said you off, the fans liked having there. With. The public health in your personal health. If you were playing at risk, how do you feel about the idea fans being in the state? Done. I think if you can find the right capacity you can begin to. Kind of. Tarp, all different sections of the stadium is not every Even a normal time. Not every state is gonNA be full anyway. So is only market certain places in think teams at our full capacity on the average needs a handles plans out if they could fans come to come in with mask on to provide can't sanitizers. They're they're laid out protocol. There are no. Player fan interactions there know autographs. Lay, all, the rules table, I, think it can be done appropriately. I think if you can somehow. Manage the concessions. You know six feet distance. Making. Sure people go in one way all the time of they're not all over the place. If you can provide that in terms of a state environment that experienced, it can be done. A lot of the players can necessarily attract Colbert? I'm not an expert I'm not a doctor through fan in Iraq despite them being there. It's more on the spiel debt from other players can hit. Well, we're having fans in the stands. It can be done if it's done appropriately responsibly in has to be will hot out and they have to check able to check the temperatures of people do a are. Testing. In a screaming prior to that, I think it can be done. Ray. Hill you blake. Would you? Have played. I. Probably would've you know single throughout most of my career I mean through all my career, I was single I. Didn't get married till after a baseball. So yeah, I probably would have played. I can understand guys that have the challenges though because of the fact that when you look at Mike Trout, you know his wife is expecting their first child. August and I, remember being a spring training before the shutdown talking to Mike and they was so a static about being home and asking me what was it like in the delivery room in your kids were born and us all enthusiastic about. About all, that s something you think about forever particularly with the first one, and so now knowing that there was going to be an August like a prime miss a couple of games probably back. Then the pandemic hits and he's thrown into this whole decision of one is he going to do and I'll throw that you guys real quick. But challenge for these players is not taking care of yourself. It's all your teammates. Everybody's in it. So I don't know what they're doing when they leave and who they're around and everything else I think that's what presents even more of a challenge would contact testing or if someone all of a sudden outside of your spear has had contact with somebody. Now, you also you gotta get quarantined and those are the challenges and I know that's what might droughts is really struggling with. So that said that long answer being single no kids through my career. Yada probably played, but had I had family like Robert was talking about? Presents a different challenge. Robert Wood you played. If you were still playing right now. Would you play? Up probably wouldn't have because you know it also depends on where I am at my career. You know if I'm like five years in ten Zeno like it was like sixteen years in my career, I wouldn't do it is because I know a boater and on my wife had heart issues, I got a young kid at home. So I probably wouldn't play and plus I've made enough money that in half to play so. that. Makes a big depends on where you are my three was established. So. It's hard to say you know and plus I had seven championship. So. With another. It is hard to say because you love the game of basketball. You Love Your Sport, you. WanNa, get out there and show you craft your crap at the best disability in. It will be one of those things you have to really sit down with your and discussed it and see what they want you to do, and it will be. It'll be hard. But if the me and I know MIA and my wife I would've said, no, I'm not playing because. Of have played enough in my life, and my family life is more important than get some playing a basketball game. Let's end on a big picture question. Optimistically. All leaves. You'RE GONNA play all of them are gonNA chronic champion Harold once you go lasts because baseball is such a unique position with. How they're structuring their schedule and all of that stuff which year start with the NBA since they would be the first literally crowned champion if they can play. Is. There an asterisk Robert for whoever wins gets thing that? You. Know. I. Played in Nineteen Ninety s season where you know we wanNA. Put Ashes by San. Antonio Spurs season because it was A. I. Think. Anytime. You Win a championship is a great accounts. So that shouldn't be an astronaut, it's not like. A happy guys try to competing play, but everybody. Everybody has the same advantage that you have. I'm not one of these guys they believe in the Asterix I. Think if you didn't complete compete and you do what you're supposed to do I, win a championship. You, win temperature. You play hard as individual you. Digital thing I. Know a lot of people. I. Guarantee You. If your team doesn't win, YOU'RE GONNA, say it and if. He. Goes. We. and. So I think when you say that's just bad because everybody had the same opportunity to go out and compete and win the championship in you should. Put yourself in position have the best of advantage of possible to championship. Big Thank you to our panel today, Harold Reynolds. You can, of course, on the MLB network played a number of years in the Majors Eddie Georgia Heisman, trophy winner, of course, raiders, running backs in more alert, Tennessee Titans history, and Robert Ory, one of the most shooter in the history of the NBA of every championships recommend so jealous because he's got. So. Much joy today. and Dr George. Your Fan plenty twenty Raunchy bet online.

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Ep. 2,867: Ben Askren, Diego Sanchez and Tecia Torres

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Josh also, our special guest for the first segment here is you have see straw, eight teasha Torres sup everybody. I love that timely arrival. Welcome to Emory junkie radio. We had you on the phone. But I think this is the first time in studio so nice to have you you've been a incredible fighter in your division. You know for so many years. So it's been fun covering you. Because you really mixed it up with the best, including the champ camper self who you have a win over. Yeah. I think I've fought everybody in the top three. So it's been exciting journey so far I'm ready to get back closer to that belt in title contention. Right. And now that you've actually put in some time paid your dues. How do you feel about your career? So far, you know, minus the fact that you haven't come up with a belt, which I knows probably the ultimate goal of any athlete. But still if you're able to accomplish other goals for sure ever since I've gotten in the NFC, I've been within that top five thing just recently with my last loss. I am outside of the top five. But I still feel like I'm in their rankings are just so skewed. Sometimes it's depends on who's doing it. But I feel like ever since the beginning. I've been doing very. Well, I haven't got my title shot yet. But I think I'm just so close I mean with this win over Zang this weekend. I feel like I can put me in the talks for something down the line not necessarily next. There's of girls who deserve it next. But definitely not far from it. And I see it being me being able to do that within the the year. This is a pretty massive card like when all the fight bookings took place. We're looking at them. But we we get lost because there's just so many cards, and then you turn the page on Monday, and it becomes fight week and embedded drops. And then you you look and you're like holy cow. Like, you know, there's seventeen ranked fighters at least according to USA today. Sports and Emma may junkie rankings. We have our own set rankings. See ours are good, by the way, they're seventeen ranked fighters guy's not going to work on Sunday night. Because I usually start the chatter and then the aditorial comes in. And they chime in with what they got this past week was easy Santos. He's ranked. Okay. That's. Let's take a look at him and this car MU she's a fly away. She won what she got going on. And then I looked at this week and my eyeballs popped up. I it's really a stack card. It's amazing. Actually when I found out I was on the main card. I was like, oh, really? I thought I was going to be like one of the first two fights or three fights else. Cool at that. I like to fight I nine enjoy the rest of the fights, especially being on a card so stacked. But they said, hey, because I was supposed to regionally go out to oppress day in set up with my opponent face off. But I guess she couldn't make it. So I didn't go to that. But they'll you're on the main cars like, oh, thanks. That's cool. So it's exciting. And to know that I'm the only female fight on the main card is pretty cool capital of the world. Yeah. Las vegas. It's awesome. Not not that bad of flight. And it's like says the fight capital. Did you like being in a in a house with fifteen other females in Las Vegas? Yes. No. I I would do it. Again. I said it after the show that wouldn't. But I actually would do it again knowing now that have has I'm older and going in there. I know how things went I will do things a lot differently. There's a lot of cattiness. And sometimes I felt like I didn't speak up for myself when I should have. And maybe I should have done that. So going back. I would would have spoken up for myself better. And. I would have tried to make friends with these girls who may have not wanted to be my friend at that time. I gotta confess to you though. I I kind of liked the county of that. I wish they would have shown more of it. And he really was like oh my God. You hear what she said? I wish I would have shown more of it. And I wish they would like show like the loss files of tough twenty because there's so many great moments that were never shown on camera. Is there when you could share? Yeah. Actually, it's a funny one. There was one night where we would like make fun of each other all the time and do like snakes fresh expressions, roasting stuff like that. And the best person was back back Hiatt. She was the best at doing them pressures of people. And Joe Joe Joe Joe is really great too. Yeah. She's a quiet, but she was amazing at doing it one thing that this show is random she would cook for us like she was a friend of like everybody in every team. I know we fought on the show, but she was so nice and quiet. And then obviously Felice in them didn't like me. But there was like one night, we're in the pool and stuff, and I don't know how but police like threw off. I'm sure is gonna hit TV fleas like threw off her bikini bottom her butts on there and stuff. I'm so this is gonna make TV then even show it. I was like this is so weird. There's so many funny things that happened that didn't like even more arguments. I felt like everybody was arguing every day. No, no, no. I was nice and quiet, and I probably should have been a little bit. Not quiet. You know, everybody always uses that word when it comes to the female seasons. Cattiness maybe watch the guys are just as bad at it to you. They get a little nasty and do different things. But but he's right. I think a lot of that trauma. Did keep a lot of people put the fight for good. And the fighters that came out of there a lot of them are still around. They're still stacked season. I think that coming into the show too. There was ready relationships made friendships five Elise a lot of us girls at Hertie fought before. So that was the difference to as opposed to like sixteen guys coming in there who are just up and comers. He's girls already half of them were Invicta eight of us where he signed and the other eight did the open tryout. So we had a storyline back ongoing into it. Because really if you think about it, you all weren't prospects. The shows to find prospects in the next autumn it fighter you all were the best sixteen in the. World or maybe if you can get in the half for whatever reason, but you know, what I mean in the top thirty or top twenty five or whatever you wanna call it. You guys were the best. So yeah. Some of you had fought some of you already knew oh, she's a gangster. Oh, she gets down. You know what I mean? So but I I really enjoyed the season. I really enjoyed watching. You all continue to sustain being part of the straw class. Yeah. I feel like it's definitely the most of the class the most talented class outside of one thirty five, but I think ours are more stuck from top to bottom top to bottom. There's no easy fights. I mean, maybe one or two Al K. But then the rest are all great guess who invited. We leasing to the party. You know, she's we're talking about the whole little camaraderie, the sorority of sorts of sorts, and now she's gonna she's trying to spoil the party. She's trying to do it overnight teasha. Honestly when I got the message from the matchmaker. I was like who's that man? I'm so sorry. I've been after I googled her. I was like, okay. I did watch her fight Danielle. She's good. She's really good. She's a little darker horse. She's getting I think thrown into a little early. But that's okay. I think she's going to present a tough match for me. It seems that she likes to strike, and I do too. So I'm looking forward to a great fight. She looks strong. She looks big. So it's gonna be fun. How how do you divvy up your week in terms of like what martial art or sport you wanna work on? Well, like, what do you say? Now that you're so well rounded is it like wrestling jitsu, boxing or kickboxing, strength and conditioning. Like what what are the what's the main focus on a typical week? I usually wrestle twice a week jujitsu two to three times a week striking probably every day and trace conditioning three times a week sometimes too if I'm sparring. Okay. Wow. I sparked twice. I don't Spar the entire camp. I Spar probably sixty the last sixty percent of camp maybe about five weeks of camp four weeks of camp. I did too hard sparring and one light sparring. So even the brain a little. AM I album. Hit in the end of my twenties. I'm feeling things. And I just know for me to have any longevity in the sport that I need to calm down a little bit. I already know everything, you know, I got the the the grit in me to go out there and do it hard technique. I think is the best thing in drills. Bulldozing over goes. You're good gosar up. Don't pull those again stand for that some fighters that are a lot of the times they'll say I watch video I find what I'm going to do. And it just kind of plays out that way other fighters say, I do that. But I also like to just go in and feel things out and from there. I figure it out in your mind. Have you already envisioned how this fight is going to end? I always envisioned the fights if every practice sometimes they'll hear my fight song. And I'll think about get butterflies or I'll watch other female fighters fight. And that gets me going makes me amped wanna go in there and work hard the next day and training, but in the past when I first started fighting I'd watch a lot as much as I could find a my opponent. I Google go do my things even as the mature. But now, honestly like I have a coach who puts together like kind of like a highlight reel of my opponent. And he did that for me this fight. I watched it once, and I haven't watched it sense. I plan on watching it once. Again this week. And at this point every person, you fight is going to be a challenge and present something, I know what she's overall great at and likes to tend to do. But besides that to get in there. She could have changed her game plan one hundred times by the her last fight. So I'm going to go in there. I'm just going to see what the fight goes and evolved from there little light bulb that goes off in a fighter's head when it's just kind of go time sometimes that happens for people when they got off the plane, sometimes they have to actually get into the cage. When does it click for you as soon as I hear the bang bang, like something changes? I I like to say like, I'm to different people outside the octagon teasha inside them the tiny tornado something changes in me. That's when I don't mind going in there and go my hardest and stuff like that. But outside I'm honest, like a Princess, I like to do things a certain way, I know how hard I need to go on each practice. And when I go in there, I'm different. I'm like there's some people who are great in the great in the in the gym. Then they go out there, and they're not able to present it and the octagon on that platform, and there's some people that aren't. Not that they're not great to do. Okay. In the gym. But they go out and they put it on the show. And then there's some people can, you know, do a mix of both me, I'm more or less in the octagon. That's where I shine in the gym. I do I do good. But I'm best when I'm in front of people the bigger the crowd, the better. And I just like that it my feed off of it. You've been a part of different eras here in the you have seen. We're just starting that ESPN era. Have you thrown your name in the hat doing the desk or any of that type of stuff you'd be good at it? No. I mean, I haven't thought about it. I I love to do other things outside of the sport. Because like I said, I know that my years are only so many I'll be thirty this year. Yes, that's still relatively young. But I'd like to have a family and do other things and I'd like to pursue things outside the FCC. So I'd love for the FCC to start. And we've talked about this during our what are the little camps that they do every two summits. Yes, we haven't done one in a while. But they've talked about helping the athletes have vision and dreams outside the octagon in occupant occupation, something to fall back on not necessarily fall back on. But fall back on a lot of people just put this. I for me I finished school last year. And I got my masters in criminology. Yeah, congressional. Yeah. Thank you applaud you for the Bank. It looks hard. I did up losing my first fight in the AFC during that time. But I I won't say it was due to that. But it was definitely hard to tie manage to deal with time manager. And things like that education has been something very close to me since I was young my parents didn't finish high school. So I made sure I got my bachelors. I got my bachelor actually at twenty and then I started fighting. So I was like, oh, I'll go back to my masters, and I decided sixteen I was like I'm gonna go do it. I did it graduate in seventeen. And now like after fighting, I don't necessarily want to work for the government. But I'd love to be a part of a nonprofit or maybe even run one probably be a part of it because it'll be less hassled stress. But if I could work within the like, that'd be even more amazing. You know, I've been in the sport for over ten years now, and I've been doing martial arts and five so I feel like I know a lot about the sport. I know a lot about women not necessarily the the men's aspect, but if I had time to like sit back and actually watch the men and not wasn't fighting. Then I'd probably know more about them. But I tend to focus on the females because that's where you know. Mike category is and stuff like that. Get into press. I am breast. Yeah. No. I was actually going to bring that up and ask you ask you about that. But you mentioned something about camps and kind of just a time. What you just said about focusing on the females, and you know, you switched over to to Denver got some focused work out that awesome submission win unit a show for and now I notice you're backing American top team, which is not a surprise everything seems friendly. But can you talk about that? And that decision to incorporate them more this camp. Yeah. So when I first went to Denver and started training with my camp there and obviously recalls camp, I I enjoy still enjoy it. But I last two fights. I came up short. Something is not clicking for me in Colorado Springs. I have one on one training, and I really do love that I feel like it makes me grow. But I feel like I lost track of where I need to be in terms of being around other athletes who had that same grind and being around athletes who are my size and having to go to schedule classes and such. So at ATT, there's scheduled classes with many. Athletes women and men so everywhere I go kind of like the ego kinda comes out a little bit. 'cause he want to do. Well, and you want to impress. You don't wanna be the low woman on the totem pole kind of speak. And then Raquel, and I are like the only two athletes in spring. So she can't do as much as I can do for her or vice versa. No, like, we're thirty forty pounds difference. So it's really hard to train with there. Now being here. The last two months of had lots of trading partners my size, and then in every class is at least like five six to ten twelve females are that are high level. So it's like, you don't go with anybody easy, and they push you to do better. So I feel like it was a great move for me. And I feel like Saturday I'm going to show some things that maybe I haven't shown before and going further I would like to come back to AT and do my next bite campus. Well, that's awesome. You say that. And because you spoke about a loss. I definitely don't want to dwell on a negative kind of a silver lining that that you told me I would argue outsider perspective, not knowing you. And again, you you could very easily win either one of those matches. If roll rolling back, but I would argue that stylistically no slouches, but stylistically those are probably your toughest testify put a gun to my head. What would teasha Torres toughest test? I would say those those were kind of it. So does that kind of give you some some bit of confidence rather than your back being against the wall from two losses knowing that like, hey, those were legit girls were competitive fights. I could very well win those the next time around. And now I'm facing someone with a lot less on paper experience than me, exactly fighting. You wanna and Jessica both them being in the top two or three. And then obviously I fought rose before. And she's my third boss all three of them girls are the best in the world. I have nothing to be ashamed of they were decision losses, and they weren't wants finish eight. They they weren't like a bloody mass. It was honestly they were just fights. Like there was no damage on either part on their part or my part. So when I look at them fighting other females and their finishing them. They're making them look a bloody mess after the fight. I'm just like, oh, I went in there. They they really didn't do anything. Yeah. They. Beat me. But there was no damage. It was mainly a Mayan me lack of confidence stupid stuff small mistakes that could be fixed. I think going in there fighting them again, I could I could beat them in speaking of decisions that's something that by the way, I feel like on a side note as a degenerate gambler, you'll let beers for can't can't tell you. How many times I banked on on teasha Torahs chalk? But to some people surprise, you know, your opponent is slightly favored now come clean. I've said on this show. I do think like you said the same words you use. She is a dark horse. I could see golden her future. I'm really excited to see her grow. So that doesn't surprise me. But you said decisions and she's only seen decisions win or lose only like three times in her career not against the sample size of fighters. You you've been against and you have that experience in the deep waters. I can't help you salivate looking as as a spike. It's deeper and deeper I matching your confidence just goes this way. Well, yeah. You know, you can't look down upon anybody. She has a dark horse like look on the ultimate fighter. I knew nothing about Randa. I honestly thought I won that fight the first of the house, but I I lost it. I learned my lesson that night not knowing enough about her. But like I feel like she wants to strike and I'd like to shake with everybody. Should she want to take me down? I'm more than happy to go on the ground and do some wrestling with her from what it looks like she looks like a bigger version of me kind of just Asian. You know, I'm a little Spanish like little pit bull and she's little taller and bigger. But I'm really good at getting in and out on my opponent, not being hit and being able to to utilize my speed enough lettuces them. I think that'll be the key to my win. This weekend is getting in and out doing what I need to do. And making sure I met my range in last on that for me regards to your fighting all is is just that's the thing. People forget to your very unique yourself, you're not just consistent, and you put volume or westbound at all these accolades you typically put out which which you deserve. But you ever you need this to your style. Now is that your traditional martial arts background? Did you karate or something growing up? I love that side stance. You do. I think it's a it's a tough look for a lot of people. To deal with this. Yeah. I think you I grew up doing junior taekwondo in America. We saw karate. So. Yeah. So of your. So I. Probably why I dig your style. That's awesome. The northeast, right? No. I I'm from the northeast, but I grew up in Florida. I did info. Yeah. And by the way, if anybody's wondering those odds are really really close Zang is a slight favorite minus one thirty. Can she comes back at even? So it's like a coin flip fight. The two losses. It's okay. It's good. It's coastal pick. They don't read the never represented. Yeah. They don't represent skill the fighter. They'd just public public public mood. If you will there's a lot of degenerates that do it the, but a lot of people suck at it too. So even the oddsmakers. Okay. So I always ask the in studio gas, can you share a good streetfight story and let it be known. That Raquel painting told one of the greatest right goes. Yeah. That was at the no escaping. No escaping. Okay. I think I know that story. You guys. Like, I said, I'm a Princess outside the octagon I've never been in a street fight. I could tell him gave. I can tell you in Wikileakers seventh grade girl was behind me in class like pulled my hair, and I didn't do anything about it. I'm a little wimp when it comes to like confrontation. I don't like it. They don't have one to tell you. I can tell you when I was in middle school. I used to get made fun of for having muscles. They drew a picture of a female because I knew she was female because of her hair, but the body was very masculine. And it was me went home crying. And for so long. I've had issues with my body. And I remember I told my car instructor. I don't want to do any more pushups because of my arms, but I always looked like a gymnast growing up because I'm short super muscular, they'd ask. My mom's your daughter gymnasts, and like, no, she she said, no she does martial arts and then fast forward to when I'm a teenager. And I'm don't now I have women and men like telling me like they they like my body, and like, well, how how do I get arms like to do that? I'm like a lot of hard work. But a lot of it is is a lot of is genetics too. But I do work hard and been doing this for very long time. So I still have some issues sometimes like, I'll take photos, and I'll be like putting my hair like this to look a little bit more. Yes. Sometimes I don't like to do it. And I think honestly says back to middle school in those gross. Yes. Let women the women L ever. They want to be what size shape color. They want to be just let them be run into those people from school. No, I never run into them. But I do remember like people for Facebook and Instagram, but not people who are mean to me. Now, why remember when you used to do karate remember used to do this at like, they're just proud of me. Interest change. At least I was just going to say for the positive Now, Sean is beautiful now. And I I like the body positive images that are out there and seeing I remember one day, I was at the mall, and I saw Mandy Kane and the manikin was muscular, but it was a female. I was like who is this. I think she was like this. I took a picture like this my tanked up on so proud, especially the ones like at Nike and Adidas. The close. Just look so good on them. I'm like, I'm looking at it. I go in the dressing room tried. I'm like singing to fly just put it right back. All right, teach stories I struck out with that story. But that's okay. How about this just have a little fun here as we wind down. And we appreciate your time here it's five week, by know that your mind is on Zang cutting weight, but but you don't cut them, which you walk around one Twenty-one insiders, you've heard that another interview. Yeah. Yeah. On my normally right now. So okay. All right. What is the favorite meal to rehydrate to after after you do the scale and the POS, and I'm not talking about, you know, the stuff that they have over at that table. I'm talking about like a good meal with your family, friends and team. Yeah. Normally, I do pasta like spaghetti meatballs something like that. Like a bunch of carbs pizza, and then by the end of the night and meeting pizza. I know it's terrible. But hey, I know what my body can take by the net have like a five speed kind of pizza. Pepperoni pepperoni or meat lovers. Meat lovers. Like that. And then what about on fight day? What's what's that? Like for you. Will you wake up? What's the first thing? You do go sweat or. No, I don't like to sweat and seeing what happened just depending. I probably will never do that on fight Danker IT like a big breakfast, pancakes, bacon, egg sausage like that. By by lunchtime. Though. I don't really want to eat as much banana. That's when it starts like, I I don't like to feel heavy when I fight and I start feeling like, I I feel so probably won't eat Elliott light for maybe a banana and some chicken or something for lunch. But usually just me laying around the room to be honest with movies. You sat. The music. Yeah. Take naps. Give me good show or documentary on Netflix right now watching Ted Bundy tapes, I want able to sleep too, right? I'm very late on this. But it's called the one hundred I've been watching that it's kind of like the maze runner if you've ever watched that series, but started two thousand fourteen but I'm new on that. And there's one I actually want to watch. -ducted in plain sight haven't watched it. But I've been hearing a lot of great things about it. Some probably gonna watch that tonight or tomorrow serious stuff. There's no comedians or nothing popping on your. Well. That's a watching right now. You know, I'm criminology major. So I love documentaries. I love Choo stories and stuff like that. So do you wanna learn a little bit about us? Yeah. Please tell me I've actually never been to you guys. I will say that may junkie is my favorite, and if I'm reading something it's either MMA junkie or some other ones that won't say them. But there's only like two or three that I actually like. Like believe what they say about us all the food that you just brought up we will eat that at some point within the next week only because he brought it up. We'd probably can't stop thinking about. Shortcake or something like that for me. And then Sunday, I was just talking Novi about going to pink box donuts. So what is it called here? You guys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's really good. By the way. A little fried croissant. Cronut little Cronin's, oats. Oh. I'm not even like a big like pastry guy, but they're pretty much a little croissant little butter fried and glaze like like a donuts. You open up into their flaky and warm, but they got the glaze on the outside. It's. Killing him over here. Okay. It. It's totally worth it. You know, it's gonna ask what the food to you said go spot on by the way. But I was gonna ask about what what is up with like the chicken parmesan spaghetti and meatballs craving because I I was only amateurs, I cut, wait. That was my craving on my buddy. Would you know follow the Dulcie Diabate may not supposed to eat that stuff? And we'll that y I hear all the things. But then I hear all your professional fighters going for the same foods. Is it something about? Filling and you feel good afterwards. You just want to go and sleep afterwards. And that's it. You probably deny deny yourself actual pasta throughout the whole camp. Unless it's like, I don't but. I'm so bad when it comes to food like it's really bad. If I could eat I can. But if my coaches, let me I'd eat pizza until the fight dominant cruiser carrying cheeseburgers in your pocket before practice and use fuel up that way or like that. Yeah. Oh my goodness. I'm much better than I used to be. I used to literally there was like one year. I went to McDonald's every day for mcflurry. Like, it was that bad. You're you ever cross paths with a gentleman named whore him with all the American. He's pretty he's pretty notorious in this department. He does a lot of things at McDonald's. Got his own menu. Does he I know that surfing? Okay. He gets quarter Pounder with Big Mac sauce. That's one twist and what's the turf again. He takes quarter Pounder and a fish fillet and smashes them together. And eat that burger actually don't eat McDonald's. Don't like dogs by like the mcflurry. Yeah. I have to pick a fast food. I go with Wendy's. Yes. Azer fast food. Why do they make salads? They do. Good one there. It's called the harvest nudes at new there. Give me that thing. I don't know what it is like Wendy's. But I it feels less. Bam. You picking lesser of evils. I feel the less bad after eating it for whatever reason. I think that's why go to it. Good. But I'm also I feel I don't know. It's not like overwhelmingly greasy. It's not like they're slop and stuff out on the Bally's from what I get. I'm a I'm a junior bacon cheeseburger, chicken guy. That's me junior bacon cheeseburger, notes and the lettuce chicken, nuggets and frie-. Wait. What's what's? Same thing. Last question any thoughts on GSP? He retired this week one of the all-time rates of the sport that we've been asking a lot of the athletes. Lot of the people we have seen, you know, the work in one way or another just to share some thoughts. Sad to see him go. I wish I could see more of his fights. I love karate fighters anybody from a martial arts background like that. So he was one of my favorites. Still is one of my favorites. And he'll go down as being so legendary maybe one day he'll come at our time. But I'm sure I don't know. What is he pushing forty years before? I oh seven thirty seven. Oh, he's might as well as they thought. But. I mean, he paved the way for many people after him, and we'll continue people who I don't think he'll be forgotten who's a female GSP. Right now. Maybe Amanda, I dunno teammate. She's she's on a terrorist. She doing well for herself. And I was talking about earlier than interview. It's like Amanda so humble, and she comes from the streets of Brazil and made it to here. So I can only imagine how she feels inside her family. Feels inside me I've known her six seven years. So how I felt when she went her first boat and our second. Just something to look up to you know, I want to thank you for stopping by on fight week. We had a lot of fun with you as well. Thank you. Good luck against the weighing on Saturday night. She will be on the paper you folks. So by that stack card you'll love it two title fights, a lot of grudge matches everything you can ask for and like I said, I did my homework seventeen ranked fighters. So a lot of the best town here on one card here in Las Vegas. Maybe this is a little bit of a payback. Right. Goes for taking that card that we need to LA last minute, isn't it? Yeah. So tune into UC to thirty five and again, teasha Torres our guests here fall her on Twitter at teasha tour's. We're gonna take a quick break. We still got Ben aspirin coming up as well as the nightmare. Diego sanchez. So keep it locked here on MA junkie, fight nation channel ninety three and don't touch that. Dial. You went stop shop for the best. Pro wrestling anime in boxing, talk is right year, Sirius accent by nation channel ninety three. He wants. You want stop shop for the best. Brew wrestling, MMA and boxing, talk is right here. Sirius XM fight nation channel ninety three. 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Can I talk radio show if Anthony Smith upsets John Jones at hashtag, you'll see two thirty five. How would you compare it to Matt Sarah's upset of George saint-pierre at UC sixty nine bigger on par or not as big start off? Dan as tough I came in right at my peak phantom around this time and US sixty nine shoot out. If I want to say, I mean that almost burns in my head. You don't think of it as UC sixty nine are, you snapping shootout? You think of that is the event where Matt Sarah upset, George Saint Pierre we reference it all the time. It's hard to imagine that beating it, but it is John Jones we're talking about and even starches critics even with the positive test. If you will. And and again, you you could be on the complete opposite end of John Jones. And that way, you gotta give the guy credit. He's one of the best fighters we've ever seen in that cage. And I think a lot of people would be blown away as blown away. I I don't know. I I'll say no I'll vote. No, no, not as big not as big goes. He goes I remember that night. And I remember there was a pride going on in Japan. And I had to break the news to a lot of fighters that that had happened. And none of them believed me, that's how big that was actually end up the phone going your lying. We'll just wait and see tomorrow. So that's pretty big. However, I think this is going to be even bigger because here's the thing up until that point saint-pierre had lost. Okay. John Jones is a loss on his record. So to me, this would be way bigger. This is a guy that has almost no holes in his game. All right at the time. You could maybe say Saint Pierre was good. But you hadn't reached great news opponent b Reshad shogun and Volcan, right? Yeah. Whereas GOP or sorry Manser had gone through a comeback season respect to those veterans, but not ranked fighters so and the odds seemed to be even you know, so so you want to stop this. While you go make that bet. I just enjoy the fight. You know, what I'll put something small with him as part of a parley if they let me do it just because I can't walk in and go here's fourteen hundred hundred on John Jones anything can happen in in the day. I do it is that they'll get stunk for fourteen hundred bucks. So if anything I'll put like ten bucks on Anthony Smith or something with another. It's like a lot of ticket. You know what I mean? Yes, I can hit. He heard a lot of those guys that just mentioned, but. I don't really we'll go ahead finish the last thing. I was going to say is when that happened. There were still people finding out about that the next day from from casual fans, whatever if this upset happens on Saturday night with ESPN behind it with this big as the sport is now, there's not a person walk in this earth. That's not going to find out about that within hours. It's going to be huge. All right, James has a Canadian. I gotta say the Sarah that would be bigger, and I'm going to base it off this as a Canadian George saint-pierre doesn't just represent himself. But he represents an entire country so him losing. There's all this hope, you know, he's the next big Canadian superstar everything like daddy looked unstoppable. And we have to look at how Sarah got that title shot. It was on the ultimate fighter. He beat Chris Lytle. I think if you you could argue that Anthony Smith is a bit of a tougher challenge to get to the title, beating Boca notes to MIR. Chris Lytle, I mean, I love the guy that was a close fight. But Sarah God in there. And I think a lot of people felt like he shouldn't have been and he goes out there and not just defeat saint-pierre. But he finishes him in the first round. I. That's so hard to replicate. And the other thing we got add in all the stuff that's going on outside the cage with John Jones that he's had to deal with you know, at some point something's going to happen. He's gonna falter whereas with Saint Pierre he looked unstoppable. I mean, people were just talking about retirement recently. You look at that second fight with Matt. He was where he won the title. He dominated that fight. I don't think anyone thought he was going to lose any time soon. All right. I'll just say that if Anthony Smith does one of these like just I mean a big hole right hand or a left hook to something out of nowhere. Then I'd say it's going to be on par. But if he dominates John Jones for five rounds, then I'd tell you it's bigger, but I just want to go with on par. I see some similarities, and I mean, you know, with a fine tooth comb, obviously, we can find a lot of differences like mentioned earlier. But I think it's on par as far as the odds are concerned, and as far as just two guys that aren't really giving much of a shot by the media against to icons of the sport. So, yeah, I'm going to real quick change mind too on part too. Because this is the great thing about this segment. I just got swayed by goes to go one way, and I got swayed back down. Earth by James, I fell back in the middle. So I'm gonna on well. Well, they're gonna try and sway. You one last time. When have we seen John Jones, even hurt Alex Alex expensive center? Wrote for that place. Close up on a couple of rounds. On him wasn't hurt though. Yeah. I remember when I was in Anaheim. I remember one of those where the crowd like, you know, starts to look and see that maybe DC had landed something. Condit landed that kick on ESPN, and it just kind of like took away from the tip. GS? Seen that from John George saint-pierre only had what an arm bar loss before the saint-pierre upset heck Vitor Belfort. Maybe if he had a couple of more help inside of better position, I should say he could have gotten that arm bar. You know, he was really really close to that. So I mean, it could have been in the same situation there too. All right. Well, there's been there's our feedback there on the question. Here's how junky nation broke it down over eleven hundred votes came in sixty percent said he'd be bigger. Okay. Wow. Second place is twenty seven percent on par. Thirteen percent said not as big. So those spread out there. But bigger seem to beat. He won the popular vote does more popular response. Yeah. Respect. All right there. You have it. That's today's debate. Brought to you by the enemy jumped radio team. And James Lynch joining here. Thanks for it in the most recent top ten of gorgeous Georgia's list, there guys always beat me to the to the guests. On the show. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, we what she's already doing around of injuries. And it's always James strike in first job on that. Every all right. We're gonna take another break attended may junkie radio on fire nation channel ninety three. Blah, blah, blah here. Those two dummies Georgia goes. All right. Just tipping off right now. The Boston Celtics tip off against the Toronto. Raptors on MB radio series, two seven seventy six and streaming on your phone and at home on siriusxm connected devices and speakers, take the raptors don't mess with the total. I just think when good teams playing. It'll be you know, should be a pretty close game. But tell ticks just haven't been very consistent and the raptors have especially the raptors at home. There are about minus three and a half. If I'm not mistaken, by the way to theories remind me, I think one of them were happy about right? I don't know. So you have the news already kind of just assuming but Virginia Tech's one of its close real close person holding a big piece of bacon. Is that Virginia Tech's thing? They can they are the hokies right now. They are the hokies. They hold bacon. I don't know. I just know Virginia. What I'm thinking of West Virginia, coal miners. I don't know. How awesome? Would that be if they sold like bacon signs, but they are edible. And like most people would eat their signed by the third quarter environmentally friendly. Homer Simpson with the Nacho head. All right. We just had a d- teasha Torres on the show. And now we're being joined on the hotline by Ben aspirin been asking. We'll be fighting Robbie Lawler on the very. Stacked you've two thirty five card. And of course, Ben aspirin is involved on the main card. In fact, he's the featured bout here on the main card and he joins us now on hotline what's up funky. Ben. How are you? I'm bill. Well, I'm this calling into the UP performance to making food. Am I a massage I'm working out with? Hiring lovely. So I got action pack night. When did you entire Woodley? Stop training. You know at one hundred percent when did you start to taper down? You know, what Tyrone I don't really ever? Go hundred percent. We kind of have the nice rhythm where we go chartering give each other in the book. I mean, we've been trained together since I was eighteen years old. So we have a great feel for you know, each other and we'll white each other needs. And as far as him fighting Robbie Lawler, it all went down so quick the probably wasn't too much Xs the knows that he could share plus you guys kind of find a different style. Obviously. I mean, I know you both come from a wrestling background on the way he finished his fight was with strikes. But was there anything he was able to tap into as far as the men anything mental approach or any type of you know, those types of notes that he may have taken on Robbie when he far bottom back then. Tendencies coaching term for that fights. I've said I did the I will help to the scouting also. And you know, I kind of got a feel for them as the time originally, he was giving me some looks Robbie tendencies, and you know, kind of stuff that I already knew I don't know if Sinn want they know what's coming our newest coming. But yeah, see me feel. Now, I know you've been on the big stage in wrestling. I know you've been on the big stage, you know, when your belt or career one championship career. And so now you're going to be on the stage. Are you what kind of emotions do you have? I mean, you've always said you belong. We all knew you belong. But at the end of the day like are, you just content? Happy you feel like hey, now, I'm gonna get all the respect that. I should have had all this time from some of the naysayers. I don't need respect when they say that stopped care what they thought two decades ago. I'm here. I'm here for myself. I'm here to compete to show them the best because I love competition. And I wanna fight the best people in the world. Okay. So let me just say, but I see you on Twitter actively sometimes push back to those that that are naysayers. So as it just you haven't fun or. Yeah. That just makes me mess. What people I enjoy mess when people. All right. Ben Astra's joining us here on the hotline. He fights at UC to thirty-five versus Robbie Lawler goes, what do you have four banana cream? Then I'm not sure if you can one hundred percent answer this question just yet. But I'm going to try anyways. When you retired you retired at peace. We asked you a lot of times many times. And you said you were at peace with your decision and all that now going through the process that the UFC puts you through being able to fight in the fight capital of the world t mobile arena, all that stuff. Is there a chance that at the end of Saturday night? You may look back and say, you know, what? Some of this stuff is something that I needed kinda just for that fighter soul. But it wasn't. It wasn't under my control. I mean, right. You can't worry about things that aren't in control wasn't like I could have said, hey, I wanna go fight in Vegas and T mobile arena. And then I'm just wouldn't do it. That's that wasn't that wasn't the situation that situation was I was obviously under contract another organization, I retired. And I was at piece of it. That was the situation. The performance institute you're outside right now. I know this isn't just a one fight you're going to be around for a while. Is it something that you kinda dick so far is some fighters of come in seen it for the first time next thing, you know, they're out here for a couple of weeks at a time a month at a time. Is it something that you would want to look into? No, I don't wanna say in Vegas Vegas. Terrible place. People got low moral dot here. I'm a mid west trying to guy. Some people in Vegas on every push. But. All right, Dan, Tom or fight would he ever been aspirin? He almost said dumped there, I think house reading words correctly. But you don't got you gotta come clean. No, no feelings hurt. Your Ben Ben, I got a a random question ask you. I was I was looking at it. This tire and tired willing. Camara who spent fight it? And of course, anybody that puts in Kamara oshman's named the SEO has has everything been asking and come up, and you know, obviously, you know, you already explained that you guys know each other from the wrestling days, but I believe in interview roughly about two months ago, you were talking about a match in particular about a Kamara who Simmons. I don't know if it was against John reader does that does that ring a bell? I if so what were you talking about not matching? No. That doesn't that doesn't ring a bell. I Don I don't remember exactly what I talk. I mean. But yeah, it'd be I remember their national circuit. Obviously he was a division. Two. Restless I didn't follow that super closely bedtime period in my life. Yeah. I remember wrestling. I remember getting klutzy for Jake. Herbert a couple of times. So yeah, I don't know. Exactly. What's match? I was talking about. You know, you guys definitely shared some shared some opponents there. But I guess what I was leading to European I guess more on that matchup as far as it's been widely from outsider perspective. I guess what? I'm trying to say it almost looks like there's a big brother big brother kind of mentality. Kind of playing fourth was that something that was prevalent at common amongst wrestlers. You guys would obviously travel and trade and not just within your school. Is there a little bit of carryover that into this fight men? You mean Woodley and will the resent? Yes, sir. I don't know. I mean, I don't think I don't think Tara really train at the training center. Too much your parents needed a little bit internationally, but he's also older than the mardi. So I don't know that they would have been much cross over there. All right, James. Lynch's joining us here on our panel as well James Woody out for been asking him. Hey, Ben, thanks for joining us. I just wanted to ask about, you know, there's that great clip that was happened during the press conference from we'll Harris and enemy of a fighter that caught you in Comoro having an exchange backstage, I just wanted to know tomorrow, are you going to like, you embracing Kamara or you kind of like, you know, what I'm going to stay at his way and focus on this fight. Like, how do you approach that whole situation because he's obviously very heated. I don't care. I made. It's funny. Isn't it? I can't get so dumb in that clip. I can't believe that his camera person put that out. Can you believe that? Mind-blowing? You guys seem to have a good time out there in L A. You guys are holding court. It was really good to see you see just how tight you guys are a lot of people are new to the sport every day. There's new people, you know, and for so for some for some people, just the Ben Askar and Tyron Woodley relationship. I think it caught a lot of people by surprise just how how tight you guys are. Yeah. I thought we'd get tiredness that that was pretty fun. Yeah. Hey, be honest. What do you think of tyrone's singing career? You know, the songs that he's dropped or whatever you've been able to hear. I mean, I don't listen to too much rap anymore. My all my wrath that I listen to is like DMZ the ball, you know, twenty years ago. So I'm not too much into that anymore. You know, that being said inside something he's he's really passionate about he really enjoys it. And so, you know, to that I say have added if you wanna do go do it. And that's you know, I've been criticized or stuff like that. So go to play golf all the time people where you're doing that. It's like man, that's what I wanna do. You do what you wanna do in life. Who's gonna be the next one from zuri to drop in album? You're chandler. Are you going to be me? All right, man. Thanks for joining us here on five. We really appreciate it. Good luck against Robbie Lawler at two thirty five. Thank thank you all been on Twitter at Ben aspirin, and thanks again Tanabe from the U of C for helping the line nine that up. We were scheduled yesterday. It didn't work out. But we were able to reschedule them. That's the second of three guests today. We are going to be joined by the nightmare. Is he going by the name of the train wants see? What's it? Now. Very back the number. Yeah. Django Sanchez is going to be in studio in about thirty minutes. Right now, we are approaching the top of the hour break. So we're only going to be gone for about sixty seconds. But before that, it's still quick social media rundown. I'm at EMMY junkie, George on Instagram and Twitter goes I'm at the goes on both Dan, Tom at Dan, Tom Emma may on Twitter Lynch on sports on Twitter. What else you got going on James yet, Twitter and Instagram, and yeah, just check it all my coverage this week? I'm here for flow combat YouTube channel right up. I same thing. Transport's keeping it simple. Youtube dot com slash Lynch on sports. They'll be doing a bunch of different stuff this week like to give you a little bit extra during fight week. So that's always the goal. Went off. Protect your neck wins at dropping that should be it on Thursday people be recording that Thursday night. And and yeah, that definitely one of my resources there that channel and kind of you know, I'll go to James channel for interviews and stuff I noticed something that you've you remarked earlier in the show before he's early on the bird because these fighters talking occasionally, a topic will come up at Timestamps it if you will. And I'm like he's added the game here. Like that is approach. Also, I did catch. Protect your neck last week. I thought I had I caught it the week before. Because I remember hearing puddle of loan. Yeah. Funny. All right, folks. We'll be right back like sixty seconds. Harry, buddy. Thanks for listening to them. I may junkie radio. I wanna take this time to let you know about our producer Danny show. It's called popping off and at airs live twice a week. Wednesdays nine pm eastern, six PM Pacific and Thursdays. Eight pm eastern five PM Pacific. You can find the show. If you missed the live show, you can find the recording on itunes Spotify or YouTube the following day. Check it out. It's a lot of fun, and you get to see a little bit more of our producer Danny's personality and my phone just rang in the background Salter stupid. Popping off joining with us in studio. We have Tom Haine from Walking Dead. You got real socked in the bay. I mean, the show is very very in you, thanks. It's very like rough house e and eight knows stuntman hanging around everyone on the show just jumps in and gets involved. And that was my rude awakening to the show being chased around the field by Newman, and then him grabbing me and touch me in the face in as a saying that everyone his when they first join which is welcome to the Walking Dead. And this it was set in this kind of like you're just doing the cult about come to watch live on the Evan s why YouTube stream. Hill your boss to reschedule that meeting. Call your wife and tell her lunches off it's time for more intimate junkie radio with gorgeous, Jordan goes. All right. We're back starting the second hour of the radio show, Tuesday, February twenty six it is fight week on March second here in Las Vegas at the T mobile arena. We have UFC two thirty five headline by John Jones. And Anthony Smith combing event features Tyron Woodley versus Kamara who's mon-. I'll just finish out the main card here because it is sick. Robbie Lawler has been asking stars versus wheelies sang, and Cody Garbrandt versus Pedro Munoz. Joining us here for the next half hour is James Lynch also part of the media few recall about two months ago. I was doing the guys said, hey, don't you do a top ten go. All right. Let's do it. And this is the guy where I think I said something along the lines of this motherfucker always beats me. Three weeks ahead. I'm going on. Right. I'm late to that party. Like like, I'll use this week, for example. It's too late to put the guys and gals on this fight card. And so I might be thinking, Wichita, right? That's next week Louison Dosantos, which but but I may even go ahead and go what's going on in Philly or maybe like one of those other cards, so all type in the name. I'll just pick Anthony Patterson. I don't know who's on that card just to see, you know, make sure. Look at the social media, traveling or something fun bother and every time. I do it doesn't take more than a half a page and you'll see a recent and everybody James Lynch and the guest I'm trying to chase down. So I either have to like us like a one month formula or maybe even six week formula just to get ahead of him. But you hustle, man. Congrats series. Thank you know, everywhere. And not only that is he's not like a diva it's not like just give me the champions or or the ranked fighters. Same thing. You know, if I'm looking at LFA or anything else up and comers somebody who's nine. And who I heard about it, the gym or whatever, let's type in that person. James Lynch, already got flock. Checks in the mail. And so James wasn't there. You the you were in Inglewood. I was the belt or card. Yeah. We were both on the back of the guys. Remember when Matt Brown was doing it. And I kind of had a bad position because you guys had surrounded themselves in the back shout. I remember your over my right shoulder. Yeah. And and I think James, you know, we're all pretty courteous and everybody gives their questions or whatever. And they usually like to go last because when I go I don't like to like go, and then wait, and then go I like to get all mine out of the way. But not that that was a point where it seemed like people were starting to look at each other. Like, we don't. So I go, okay. And I had a few and I said mine, and then of course, there were follow ups to it. And it looked like James had hit his point where he wanted to chime in if you had asked anything yet or whatever. But I remember when I asked I think maybe because we all have that feeling of like oh who's behind. Right, right. So you look back, and then I had another one, but the second one and almost locally it's you're gonna shut up. As I got a question because look here the pen ready to say something. And so I said I go finish my question. But I had a laugh to myself. And I was like, well, that's what you get for them times. Pete me to the punch on these other boats, just having fun. I told the guy who's yet. Oh, no. I appreciate that. No. It's. As far as getting interviews and stuff. It's the same thing with me. It's like sometimes people do like a couple of months in advance. I won't do that. I'll do a couple of weeks out. But you know, when you cover fight weeks, you always want to get the guys ahead of time. Yeah. So that's why even for this. You know this stretch because this week we'll be covering all things to thirty five. You always get a good a little bit ahead of the game. So that's why I do it a little bit in advance. But I appreciate that. It's it's very it's an honor to hear that. So it's great that will keep doing your thing. Youtube dot com for Lynn, Sean sports. Yeah. All right, guys. I also brought some odds here, Dan. I know there's certain limitations of what you might wanna talk about because you still like to do some breaking down or whatever so time whatever you want. Let's get the opinion of Jan here. You see the odds? Yeah. Jones and Smith you gamble. Little little on my podcast. We give recommended bets and stuff like that just to you know, little little tidbits. Right. And so on Smith homeboy could hit hard. That's one thing. You can turn your lights off. You know, there's not going to be too many people that pick him, but he has ways to win in John Jones has been hit. A little bit more. I think later on in his career. He's also facing bee's. But what do you think of of the prop which I wish I had? And I don't maybe Dan minority of just Smith by KO. It's going to be greater than the plus six hundred than I'm staring at is it worth something guys. Is it worth the ten? Twenty spot will say excited distances plus nine seventy five I take inside the distance. Because even though even though some people don't even think. Yeah. Yeah. Because again, if you think for people that are like, well, I don't even think like a knockout slightly, why am I going to think of submissions likely because again John Jones, very I dare say anything underrated about him. It's as ground game. But if you believe in the punchers chance, then a lot of times, what will happen with these submission wins is kind of like a a neat D as you'd say. I have a lot more knockouts America of guys and start shooting when they when they're hurt because it's kind of the natural inclination. So, you know, and let's not forget on paper. It's Anthony's the percentage. It's a black belt for what that's worth. I mean. Okay. Plus more seventy five. Yeah. And and you know, Smith has more fight. Than him Jones pointed that out in the presser like, he's been around forever bread. Okamoto had a great story on them yesterday. I don't know if you saw that any ESPN just kind of, you know, chronicling like his life and his upbringing. But I think the one thing we can't overlook as well as just as Hart, you know, they call them Lionheart. But you look at that last night as a prime example, he's losing that fight. And he was able to come back and persevere, and I think that's a dangerous thing. Especially for guys got nothing to lose. Right. I mean, all the pressure. Here's on Jones with everything outside the cage and all all of that. So that's something to consider for. Sure. Do you guys watch the countdown show still I I haven't seen the one for this card yet I plan to, but I haven't I don't catch them all want to lie to you. He said, but I'm pretty solid on embedded. But countdowns hitter, man. I stay watching it last night at the gym guess, I went to a gym as I was sitting there. I dude I was ready. You're saying would you throw ten bucks on anything Smith? I was ready to throw down fifty. This guy's got a shot. That's what they're meant to do. But really guys at the end of the day. I mean, he's right. If you're gonna play anything within the distance, but this is a tall tale. Right. I mean, this is really tough right now. I say he's going to be John John, by the way. Again, I'll say I said it was before the only thing those embedded in countdowns are good for if you're a due to hardcore, dude. Whether you're in the sport, are you work for it. You probably have a lady who's probably sick of the sport. But like those bed. It's man. That'll rope them in. They're usually good about like teasha was on here. Like, hey, they got a female federal the main cardigan the good about doing that. And they'll get looked through the stories and you'll watch it with the lady, right? And then then you'll you even even the most cynical and deservedly. So I get it. They'll be like, oh, I'm much more interested now. So that's that's good couple around Saturday. I'll make a spread. Yeah. Yeah. You feel a little less bad. But I hate, you know, mean guys watches mine go. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You it's good primer primer. Yeah. Well, they still publish them. So that they must still do decent enough ratings to justify a camera crew following all these fighters, I've always thought embedded was gonna eventually phase it out, but countdown still chugging along. But you know, what happens is is one thing. I think we all take for granted is just how many new fans pop up every card here. You know, how many times have we talked about that the the new generation than the tough the tough noobs. They're not noobs anymore. That was around me too. Yeah. Yeah. No. We need to come up with new like in a couple of years. We're going to be saying like the Fox News. I it just goes around and cycles. So I think some of these people watch these aren't they Connor noobs essentially, I think it's a lot of the people who watch McGregor. Yet in a lot of celebs came in when Rhonda came in. Yeah. Or at least they kept it hush until all of a sudden, I'm like they were all clapping in LA when she beat cat. I was like, wow, you're. A lot of them. If you watch HBO back in the day when they would do their twenty four seven, which is great the way, they would do it. But when really when you think about it. They would only do it for select fights. And how many times are you gonna watch Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather because they're usually the ones that were the stars of whoever they were fighting against how much can you possibly know about Floyd? I mean, you know, what he's gonna do every every fight. You know, what he what he does at night. That's that's sort of stuff. But they were really good about keeping things fresh. And I think that's the one thing that maybe the countdowns embedded they need to get a little better at that. Because the John Jones stories are always kind of similar with just a little twist here and there, but but that's the one thing that twenty four seven did a great job of you had that the UFC primetime. Remember with BJ pan is grape here that was one of my favorite ones of all time. So she's a Canadian that was to see the build up to that. And there's that great line. Where beaches says, George I'm gonna kill you. We're gonna go to the death. Like, it was just one of those you felt that through your TV screen watching that I would like them to bring that back for for bigger match. A lot more. Expensive. Right. Probably. Yeah. Even the number to six million to do one of those. And the countdown was fractured fraction of. Abused it. But especially for that first one because it was so perfect. When they go to cut the TriStar, and you have the music teted on Ted add on. Data data, and they would use it like kind of over abuse it. But like the music was everything was perfect about that series. How they did it. I bitch disease. Some young talented people that could probably do it. And you know, I I don't know if it's expensive because there's just certain, you know, people that. That only certain people that can do this. You know what I mean? Or if it's the narrator that you have to pay for or where it is. But there's so many talented people out there that are producing great work. I mean, I, you know, not to get into a whole Oscar setting. But I was like what what what did that movie come out, you know, and just seems like there's a lot of people, especially a lot of foreigners, you know, alternate producing all kinds of different films, and it's not like the old days where it was, you know, everything was in the theaters in the theaters viewers. Well, I think first and foremost, you want somebody that's a fan of the sport. Yeah. Hind that camera giving direction right? Yes. I think what happens sometimes is organizations just go. Oh what he directed. What? Movie or what show? Yeah. Let's bring them over. But I don't know that they have the eye for what the fan wants to see. Right. So I think you've got to start with like guys like lazy, the savage, right? That actually traveled with these guys in knows what for he knows what people wanna see as a fan. You gotta start there. I think with people like that some of those are legendary till so when. Reposing? I think I reposted it. It was like the miracle. Co cop lead up to fatal million Anco, and they just love the contrasting footage of him beating Alexander and then fade or in the back room looking at the monitor like that just was such an awesome contrast. And I know we're supposed to be talking about betting lines with this topic that I wanted to tackle which would be like a kind of a wide ranging one, but top-five promos and MMA and back to the John Jones thing, I he's a part of one to that. By the last good one. I remember seeing from the guys right that UC to seventeen with her to fourteen with the DC in DC movie lead up, and they do the Dana way. Like, now's where the real trouble starts and the younger younger dean away. They're they're reaching back for this footage. Is that I love that. Yeah. Well, this new era. That's the one thing. We can't get his direction out of W EMMY IMG or now known as endeavors far as like what are their plans? You know, it's it's almost like. Yeah, we're the ones that bought it. But other than that like we've never even had any formal type of sit downs with owners or. What is it? What is it that they wanna put out there to me? I'm left with the impression that all. They care about is. Let's make the UFC big. Let's make the big not necessarily. Let's let's focus on these fighters. That's that's focused on the talent that we have note, the three letters you have C you have seen the fighters are just part of our organization. We're the ones putting on a show. Come check out the great fighters that we've one on one come to a business agreement of what we're gonna pay for the night. But basically come watch the bring up a great point there, George because guys would you wouldn't you think by now year enemy remember when this first happened where like, oh, imagine all the guys at wanted to do like, for example, chanter talked about the the ideal of paramount brought a partnership that allowed them to do stuff with country music channel. And we talked about this when w MGM G absorbed them and as far as the promotional stuff. I would have figured that was a no brainer. Because this is an entertainment company half their people are actors and whatnot. And yeah, I mean, they gave us John Malkovich over over dubbing which was pretty sweet. But as I from that guys. Have we really seen any of that star influence? Yeah. Chris cookers pass shows up in the rain, but to be on a belt or uses him more for his story with his guy over there. I don't know the name off top of my head. But, but yeah, I mean, you'll see is also celebrity showbiz show. That's that's not new. So I haven't felt that yet. I felt that either we're at the two year marker. We didn't get in there at a celebrity cost me one time being at a minimum number. That sounds familiar which one was it Mandalay bay once came they shut up you want some tickets to a concert. Sure was riana my girl at the time. She'd probably like that it just so happens. It was on the same night as you have see it the MGM, I didn't think of that. So there I am at the concert. All mad that I'm missing the fight waiting on stupid show up and guess why Rana was late to the concert guys. It was up. You go smile at the UC. So when they pan to her the crowd popped. Turns out you know, he was going to the concert. And I was like I don't think she's in. Let's see list. Unless the openers there right now who knows all right? You know, one thing we're going to do for shirt for the rest of the week is continuing to talk of see to thirty five point. You have something you want to bring up bringing. But one thing we haven't talked about is especially with you, Dan, because we won't see you till Friday. Tony ferguson. Did he play his hand correctly? He said no to a fight with max Holloway was supposed to be Ferguson versus all the way in steps Dustin poi-, a I guess he just he had his run as interim. He didn't get a chance to fight for the undisputed title. And maybe just I don't you know, he wants nothing to do with it. And of course, as I say that this week. Do you see also signed two interim title bouts to happen in Atlanta for UC to thirty six on April thirteenth? And so the UC's moving forward. Lynn Trump's Zentrum. They had a whole debacle with Koby Covington having to strip him. Tony ferguson. He hurt himself. He had to get out of it. But right. What do you think he should have just take? When the fight and put himself closer to having to fight Habib or or what I'm glad you brought this up because you guys know that I've been waving the twenty Ferguson flag from here before for a while. Whether it's for for him and could be or him and his deserved place. So first off let me say that. I don't none of us can notes all speculation. 'cause we weren't at the negotiating table. Right. We don't know the outside intangibles if you will. But based on the fact that they came to him with max for an interim title over destined for an interim title. I do give him credit. Actually, a not only do. I not criticize them. I dare say maybe give them a little bit credit for because it's not it's not a favorable move guys. I'm not gonna pretend that it is. But if he's already going to be a a martyr to his own against his own will as I went and did the most impossible I fought for the intern titles. I fought through injuries. I made miraculous recoveries what else do you want me to do? I can't really blame a guy at that point for not wanting an interim title or for even going so far as to even martyr himself, which is kind of what you're asking is. Is it is it a bad move? If you will. So definitely could be looked at as a bad move. But no. Because again, another reason I'm glad you asked us, George because I don't think that makes any sense. I love max Holloway him and Robert Whitaker two guys. I put like. Amongst pound for pound list, amongst champions who've been defending and not really jumping weight classes so much, but can can can have a claim that obviously tired Woodley as well. But max Holloway. But it doesn't make any sense to MO if you put a gun in my head. What are the two most impressive active winning streak right now? Not even right now give you the same answer. Guys. What are the two most impressive active winning streaks in the past or ten years seven to ten years maximum away, and Tony Ferguson? What are we gonna do to reward them? Give them an intern title in this day and age where we have interim titles in the division where again, not just Tony Ferguson flagwaver your boy here loves the lightweight division. You know, put out a whole Stoorikhel retrospective on 'em may junkie, and this division has gone through so much turmoil. It is so rich right now could be the the middleweight division welterweight division of the early nineteen eighty s we we really have all these amazing players. And it's a traffic jam. We're really gonna put all that of all these winning streaks. Yeah. Boxing. Yeah. All that all these winning streaks. All all all on the line to put these two guys together to knock each other off. Don't sign me up for that. And I'm glad Tony Ferguson didn't want to be signed Alami. To advocate on one point. Could it be guys at least from Holloway side? And this is what I'm going to say to what I would say to Tony if I had a chance by not becoming the interim belt or champion. Well, let me start with Tony. I one thing. I disagreed with was is he going to be off for a whole year before fighting again like, yeah, I'm sure he thinks hey, I came back from an ACL in five years. Trust me. I'll be good. Then I'm perhaps. But I always felt like just these fighters men, if they are they're more fluid in their timing and everything is working a lot better when they're fighting at least on the two fights for your your maybe even threes better. But here's the other thing if he became the interim he comes a lot closer to forcing his hand. Because Dan, always says if the insurance ready to go, then we have to do that fight because Conor McGregor the unicorn that could mess hall. Sure. But here's the other thing. What if at some point he'll be just is no long with you see doesn't. He get promoted the same way Robert Whitaker got promoted now, he becomes the undisputed. He wouldn't have to fight anybody. Also, if he's the interim champ if you get if he gets past max Holloway, or whoever they matched them up with when he fought Habib and Habib's now becoming this huge star that could be a million dollar pay per view. Wouldn't you get pay per view numbers? Good point is champion. You know, what it means? So that's why I was like, wow. I I was really surprised for him to turn it down. He probably knows all that. Because he's part of a great management team. That's been involved in every single scenario. I just discussed, but I don't know what you guys think of Tony. I this decision, which is the first thing. I thought was at the whole point of this at some point. You gotta make money, right? How you gonna make money sitting on the shelf? And you fighting another pretty damn good fighter. And I think this elevates your you. Your stardom. I guess would you think? Yeah. I think there's there's little upside though, too. Because of the fact that if he loses by ridding out, or I think I think by taking the fight to a certain degree for two reasons summer when he fought Anthony, Pat us, what was the point of that? Right. Like that was the whole thing was that. Oh, you gotta stay active. He fought Pederson beat him decisively. It's like what did that even mean? And then he had the title they took it away. So I can understand some bitterness from that end as well. I get what you're saying though, like how he beat Holloway. I mean that would elevate him even more and you want to stay active. You don't want to be like Colby is right now where he still on the sidelines hasn't fought since June. But at the same time, I I mean, I think him and his management group. Like, look we can't keep going like this because I did everything I'm supposed to do up until this point. He didn't have to take the pet is fight. And he took it anyways. So to me, it's like he's done more than enough, and I can see him being sort of bitter towards the situation. And I don't know if it's gonna work out better. Or maybe he's just, you know, making a statement for the rest of the fighters like, hey, we can't be treated like this. So I don't know. But hopefully it works out because I love watching that guy fight. Well, here's the thing. Do you? Remember when? Sironi moved up to welterweight one four hundred lead by all of Eric chase story and Brown. We were like, whoa. And then okay. Maybe lightweight. You know is cutting too much weight, or whatever maybe this is division, maybe can fight for title because of that frequency of fight all these storylines all these narratives start up, you know, what I mean, then he loses to Mazda Lawler until like, oh, man. Maybe it's time to go back down. So it goes back down. And why I guess he's still had Medeiros Edwards? Pray. It goes back down Beat's Alexander Hernandez, but because of all this activity. Dana white is close to rewarding him the Conor McGregor fight. Right. You know what? I mean. So even if that fighter spirit isn't there at some point, the, you know, all these guys pride themselves on saying, I'm prizefighter. I'm a businessman when does that kick it? Sure. And let's be honest. I I love twenty Ferguson. He's probably like my favorite fighter gun to the head to break down right now, probably twenty Ferguson. But let's be honest guys from what we know Tony Ferguson. We all have outside of perspectives. We just go look at this guy's Twitter. Let's just say he's not the normal cat. And that's putting it in a nice way. So I mean, this guy is kind of on a different frequency to. I'm not saying that as an excuse. But just kind of I to maybe make sense because you great points. I don't disagree with anything. You said I just I he's definitely just a different cat as well operating on a different frequency one. More thing. We got a break coming up at Diggle. Sanchez will be joining us in about ten minutes here in studio, Ben asking was saying that nobody in the world would shed a. Of Kobe Covington never came back. What do you guys feel about Kobe Covington whether you like his antics or not I mean, the dudes fourteen in one eight and one in the AFC and did visit thousands right about that. No one else has. But do you want to see this come to a point where he's just either retires or he's no longer in the you'll see I wanna see him fight. I think it's very weird that he kind of took that Connor route in the sense that he just went out and went full steam towards everyone. But it kinda shows that if the UFC's not behind you, then there's really no point to it. Because it just didn't catch on. I think the way maybe he thought it would thought a lot of us. I mean, we would have been fine with him and Taryn Woodley. I think the build up it sold itself, but the UFC didn't get behind it. And that just kinda shows the power of not just doing things on your end. But your employers have to play ball as well. And that's why I kind of look at Tony and go man, I kinda respect you for what you're doing. But if you don't have the blessing of the guys. Upstairs. It's a thing can happen. It's their court. That's their ball. I wanna see Colby fight. Would you miss Kobe? Stop fighting. I think they're missing a huge opportunity. You're how often do you get fans invested in a fighter? Whether they love him or hate him. I I see it on both sides people. Love colby. They're you know, magnet supporters everything else. And then there's the other side. That's like this guy is terrible for the sport. But the thing is people are invested. You know, tough. It is to get fans on every level emotionally invested to me. It's like it's crazy that they didn't at least try and make this Woodley fight. I know the reasoning the use men fight, and he didn't want it. And all that I get all that. But it's like they have a very unique situation that you don't see too often. We're fans are so invested and to me it's like like would ask him saying, I think that's just him playing into it. But of course, fans have missed because people want to see him lose if they don't like him. They wanna see him loose. So it's like there's there's a lot that goes into this. And I think it's just that. It's unfortunate. He's not fighting right now. I think he's over. And I think it's a damn shame that he's not fighting about you doing. Yeah. I like an area and a coal mine because I think what James says it makes it almost poetic because it's true you'll missing an opportunity, but the. Other side of that Quinn is I feel that it's a danger that he may, you know, go back to fans not carrying because I think it was Anthony Smith interviews saying goby is essentially painted himself into a corner. I mean, let's be honest guys we've met Colby personally. And may at times before this kind of shtick took off if you'll say so and it's safe to say that. You know, it's it's a bit of a schtick. It's a different guy. And and I think a lot of people can agree on that who who's seen that. But the dangerous part about that. Is you paint yourself into this corner? We see people take them serious. Whether he's, you know, whether it's people in the media fans hardcore that have been around that you would think if seeing this this trick before, but it gets people invested which is a good thing James said, but it's dangerous because does that mean he has to do is for the rest of his career now like wh how does that go mine optime just to turn it on every time? They go go. You know what I mean? All right. We gotta take our break here. Like, I mentioned Diego Sanchez joining us here in studio, and it looks like he's on deck. So let's take this break. You're listening to radio on series exam fight nation channel ninety three. Don't touch that. Now. We'll be right back. Into the fights. And then the ring announcer guests. This is your home for all things. Combat theory is the XM fight nation channel ninety three and on your phone with the Sirius XM app. They were -ducted by aliens instantly returned for rating, all this knacks. They are gorgeous, George and goes, and this is ever made junkie radio. Get the radio channel numbers and only to listen to your favorite NBA NHL and called basketball team sent right to your smart device. Just go to siriusxm dot com slash sports today and click add to my calendar. All right right now, we're joined by Diego. Sanchez. Former king of the cage champion former tough one middleweight champ and long time contender at both lightweight and welterweight in the ultimate fighting championship. Wait, welcome to kgo San you. Could just add you could add to that the longest contract it active UFC fighter of all time. Have I mentioned he's the longest contract of you have see fighter of all time. They may listen, we stayed quiet while you sat there because I wanted it honestly tell you, you know, you know, you know, how I get going and who do and we're going to you don't want that content to not be on the show. Well, that no I wanted to it's an honor to have you in our studio, your, gene man, seriously, you've been doing this for such a long time in the sport him, and I used to go watch fights at Sandison toe. So we come through their senior. Thing on tough. And then the maintain you know, you pass twelve years longevity fourteen years two thousand five was tough that that is an amazing run. So seriously, man, we respect the hard work. He put in tears, the blood sweat the grind wins and losses. Don't matter you've entertained, so that's why I wanted to tell you. So when Nobby from the told us. Yeah, you want tangible one Diego Sanchez in our studio because seriously, man, you're you're a pioneer in the sport, maybe nine neither U of C one pioneer. But it goes in ariz-. You know, what I mean, tough is when you see really really started. Well, here's the thing. When when when when an organization is forty million dollars in debt when you sign on board. That's where we were at when I when I signed on where we were forty million dollars in debt. The for Titas were like, I mean old man for Tito was telling Lorenzo and Frank like, this is it like this is your last shot the last chance we're like, I ain't funded. No more. And now to sell for four billion. I've been all the way I've been been been bullet bleeding sweating, you know, going through this, you know, sometimes I had a cry too. But you know, that's the sport of mixed martial arts. And also before we get going. Sorry goes, incidentally, I send them a message, it it turns out he had to cancel. Oh, because I said, hey, aren't you in Vegas week? He said he he had to cancel it Tom giggles. When our in our studio, he says what's up we're all wearing the bracelets and ensign said, Tom I said what's up with exclamation parts? And he's going to tune into the show guy that legend. And also an inspiration of victim of a fighter that was a true warrior that when fighting was done and over for him. He was able to transition, you know, he has his kennels. He has destiny forever. You know? He's he's he's doing he's on his hustle. He's on his grind down a true. Chew Japanese, man. Yeah. For sure samurai, right? Yeah. Good friend of the show. We love you instant if you tuning in I gave him the links hopefully tuning in. I'm not sure if he's in Japan, I think he might be in Hawaii. Oh, he was in Arizona for a while. Right. It was he he was in Arizona. But I think you're right. He might be in Hawaii or Hawaii when I was there. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Great guy, man. All right. So Diego UC to thirty-five taking place done this song and dance twenty sometimes getting close to thirty. But what I can tell is you bring good energy to fight week, man. This is like candy land for you. Disneyland. Oh, it is what it is. Let's say locked that door two men are gonna throw down. But it it just seems like this is, you know, this is your job is business. And you're a guy that's out there competing and having fun. Hey, the six years at one fifty five weren't quite candy land. But I'm back at welterweight baby. I'm back at welterweight. I might only weigh one seventy five I'm might be fighting my walk around weight. But it it's it's definitely candy land. Now because I'm doing it with the same type of passion that I had when I got into the sport. And that's something that I've had to really really analyze. Especially over two thousand seventeen which was the roughest roughest year my career where I took back to back knockout losses, and I knew I had so much more. Inside of me. I knew I wasn't done. I felt healthy. I felt strong. Mentally, physically spiritually, I was like, you know, what is it? You know, I and I begged him begged for the one sixty five pound division it Dana in four. So it ain't gonna happen till the day is for it. But you know, welterweight, let's do it. Let's do it. While the way, I don't mind being the David Goliath division. I have the speed advantage. I have the endurance advantage. And it tremendously increases the durability that I have being hydrated having hydrated brain, having hydrated body being rested. And not only rested just focused focused all week. My focus is is not on cutting weight. Like like like these guys they're over there. They're stressing. You know, there's just in their bodies that they're releasing those stress hormones. No, it's it's it's a pain in the butt, cutting weight, it sucks. I it's it's it's a terrible part about about the sport. And and I'm here to change the game. I'm I'm looking at I want to show these younger kids, these younger up and comers. That look, you know, it's not really truly all the size and the dog. It really is the fight in the dog. And last my last fight I went out there. And I fought Craig White who weighed in at one ninety five six six two and a half. And I went in at one seventy three I went into the cage at one seventy three point five, and I was able to to perform excellent. Disparity home. Wow. All right goes way, ever Diggle, you still getting goosebumps even to this day 'cause we saw you. We played your walkout music to start the segment, you're ready to go. I it's not so much goosebumps its energy, everything is energy. And I live for this energy. I have the passion, and I saw that George Saint Pierre retired. And I'm just watching this guy's amazing career. And I'm just looking at it. And I'm like man, I just I love that matchup fight with him. And even and there's there's so much more for him. And and I'm I'm thinking about it. I'm just like I started at the same time as George and I'm like, I'm like the only thing that's different between me and Hammas. I it it's the it's the true passion that I have win or lose a I love I love it. Like, I love it more than any other fighter in the game. I promise you that. I have I've passion for this. When I'm in the gym. And I'm in there in the gym, and I'm training, and I have my training partners. We're sweating. We're doing conditioning after we just done rounds. I mean, like, I I really embrace it. I really love it with a with a with a different level of extreme intensity. How much has changed throughout the years as far as your routine for your preparation for this particular opponent? Is there any new wrinkles that that have changed? Have you found a routine? Well, that's definitely been my secret to success in the longevity of this sport is being adaptive. If I was a superhero, and my superpower, it would be being adaptive being able to adapt to whatever the situation is whatever it is. I I continue to adapt I continue to learn, and I I continue to to recreate myself as the artists, and I look at myself as the as Leonardo Davinci when I look myself in the mirror, and I'm getting in my zone, and I'm doing my own weirdo shit like straight up weirdo shit. Like like like, I learned shift from Tony Robbins. I learned stuff all. Throughout my career, working in the mind. The body the spirit, and it's like people look at me. Like, man, you're nuts. Man. You crazy like in affirmations in just just all the outside the box stuff that I do it. It's definitely what makes me who. I am. It's the mystery behind the man. All right, Dan. Yes. Speaking energy. It was awesome. That you're going through the accolades as impressive, obviously, all your accolades in history is Diego. I feel like if someone did it normal man you came in here. Looking the way you do which again, you look you look great. You almost can't you can't tell it guy like takes care of care of himself. I ought to tell a person doesn't follow him. This is a young fighter here. He's he's he's on his way up. I think they would completely believe me the energy the way you carry yourself the way you take care of yourself. That's a lot especially when you know like these guys said, they they they read off and remind the may go back, and you watch that Martin Capela fight. I it looks like I fought, Freddie. Krueger. You know, like I got I definitely got some scar tissue, but I got some secrets to defeating that scar tissue at the same time. Well, you look young I'm vitamin and energy that you could feel but also see if that makes sense, I mean little bit definition. That's definitely my second passion outside of mixed. Martial arts is some people will call it biohacking. I call it anti aging the art of anti-aging on a cellular micro cellular level. You know, it's not only it's not only the the food. I eat is the water I drink. It's the breath. I breathe, you know. I've I've went I've studied with iceman Wim Hof, I know him. I I really really look to go outside the box. It's where I thrive. Dramatic. I drink can't get nine point five alkaline water. It's it's been around in Japan for for twenty five forty years. I think of twenty five to forty years something like that. I thought I was gonna clean with. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's it's it's definitely, you know, it's it's little things little things all the little things add up let let me ask you on on kind of, you know, back to a technical more more of the martial arts playing field up this matchup. I I get excited looking at. It reminds me of a match you had not too long ago you seen everybody this point. But a matchup you've had not too long ago. Marsin held where the odds kinda surprised me where you know. I think people may be forget that not only, you know, obviously, you have a wrestling base and have been grappling a strong grappler, or but you compete out speaking of being passionate, right? You've competed in grapplers quest, and and grappling competitions outside of mixed. Martial arts for for awhile. Now, you speak about that. And and have you been still saying active outside of mixed martial arts with grappling? I I continue to do professional grappling at any chance. I get I look at it as you know, like, even if it's just like to ground through grand, four grand five grand, whatever it is, you know, depending on the show, and what they're willing to pay to get me out there. I I look at it as just a training session. And and as a. Warm-up competition. Putting my mindset in that in that fight mode because when I did grappling and grappling was my thing when I did wrestling and wrestling was my thing. It was still fight for me. My mindset was still I'm fighting. It wasn't. Okay. I'm gonna go do a grab I'm going to go. Do this crap. I'm biting, you know, it's still a fight between two minds between two spirits. It's a fight. So you have to practice a master the art of juice showing up. You gotta show up. I watch these guys get sucked into the show. They get sucked into the show that gets sucked in the thing. They get sucked into the little disc the little that. And then they get in the and they mess up. They hit up because it whether it's the pressure. Whether it's it's a an excuse of something, whether it's it may be a severe weight cut like I've had a couple of times, you know, severe Waco in you go in there thinking, you're all one hundred percent, and we're gonna. Do this and you try to show up, but you just don't show up. So that's one of the things that I emphasize myself on now at this point in my career is show up. You know, when it's time, you know, show up when it's time when you make that walk. That's when you have to have your energy, right, right, then. And there that is when your energy better on point, it's war, and and it's not easy. It's not easy juggling. The the full plate of being a mixed. Martial arts. Fighter. Is it? You're going in there by yourself. It's not a team sport. It's not even sport in my opinion. This is war. This is the real gladiator days shit, and and so people like martial arts. Well, you know, what I've tried martial arts, you know, respect sportsman. Okay, let's shake hands. And oh, you know, let's smile at each other at the way ends, and oh, let's crack a joke. Oh, you know. What that ain't me? I tried that. I tried being nice guy. And I came into the sport Diego. Nightmare sanchez. I'm leaving this sport Diego nightmare Sanchez. And I I know who I am. And I understand now too. Crush a monster to kill a monster lets you the word kill to kill a monster. You gotta be a bigger monster that so so so so when people ask me, you know, oh Diego your use the dream or I'll have found sometimes I will come o- Diego. They dream dream. We like. Nano more man, not a more is is the nightmare. Sanchez. I started nightmare. And now I am back to who. I am one hundred percent the true authentic Diego. Sanchez, and that's the outside the box weird shit. That's what made the magic. If you go back to the season one tough. You can watch me. You can watch me doing straight yoga energy CI work in the rainstorm absorbing energy from the rain clouds from the storm that sounds so dumb to some people. But to me, it's not dumb. It's real. I'm doing it. And and believe me my last fight. There was a rain storm. There was a rainstorm in Dallas. And I was out there. You could ask Henry who you could ask Henry Henry the chat, you know? He'll tell you. He'll be like do do. Crazy. I seen him. I seen him using the Ray. And it was like right before the fire was out in the rain. He was doing. Doing shadowboxing and doing yoga and doing his weird stuff. But you know, what what works for me might not work for someone else. But that's the eagles Sanchez. I'm a unique individual. I'm on my own creative genius. And I'm believing Nodar Davinci. That's got the paintbrush. You know, I've learned this. I've learned that. But when it comes time to show up and go in there and get in the cage. I'm I'm the artist. That's my canvas I'm pain, exactly. The way with the flow with the flow of who. I am and what I represent beautifully. Put the goes. And just let me focus on the nightmare thing for one second. You know, you seem like a guy with our Makoto teammate you like a person I'd love to have in the gym guy. I'd love to have on my team. No question about that. But like you said you have an intensity of passion. It's a fight us will tell me this will probably have to go early in your career when people weren't as familiar with you. But whether it's a p name that you were mentioning was there ever funny story of maybe someone being not to for millions with you and your sensibilities, and you know, how it is. You get no training session things. Get. Little heated, and and you know, you can look back and maybe laugh at it. Now, any any kind of funny stories like that come to your mind, cause I imagine that will be a scenario. I see in you. You know in the training room is is is a complete completely different mindset. You got a completely different Diego in there on working with people that I love so the right nightmare, the nightmare them not denying Marion in there unless I'm on that ground and pound dummy dummy up I got to dummies this this camp under my belt, they their own stitched. I mean that padding it still might be under the cage. I don't know if someone cleaned it up, but I bust I I'm here to I'm here to squash, the great, I'm here to slice to face break, the bones. My UFC view, I got the mount on Brian gas way and let them Boz Boz drop in. And he ended up having a broken nose broken orbital. You know chain into the guy's career. You're trying to make an one fight comeback. And you know, just never was the same. Once you take that kind of cut type of beating and you have that type of structural damage done to your face. It's it takes a very very. Wrong spirited man to to come back from something like that. Because it stays in the subconscious mind and the body wants to to let the the fear come in even not even knowing his it's in that subconscious mind, the power of the subconscious mind, something another another aspect of Diego Sanchez is I studied that subconscious mind, I investigate that subconscious mind, I attack it I I checked it. I analyze it. And I'm I'm looking to find my weaknesses 'cause 'cause you say, I look young. And I and I and I feel young. Yes. I am still young and that starts with all the mindset in here. I'm young I'm I'm a child at heart. I'm a child that Mike I love to laugh alive live to play. I love the giggle. Follow me on Instagram. You'll see me and my daughter doing Joe Joe songs in Joe Joe seawall woulda shot. Joe? See well. All right. That's diego. Sanchez. He is going to be fighting at UFC two thirty five versus Mickey gone. You can catch his fight on big ESPN. That's right in the ESPN air and Diego's fought on all the major networks. This'll be the first time on ESPN. And of course, that leads into the paper. We we take one last break, and then we'll come back and we'll continue talking to Diego Sanchez. Okay. Stay with us. We'll be right back. What they say and your life will be a lot better. Here are gorgeous. Then goes, all right. We're getting ready to wrap up here. We got Diego Sanchez here in studio with us. Remember, he's fighting on Saturday night at UC to thirty-five or says Mickey gall they'll be featured on ESPN. It's the lead inbound as that leads into the pay per view, headlined by John Jones and Anthony Smith co headline with Tyron Woodley. He defense his belt against Comorros muscle. Two title fights, this kind of seventeen ranked fighters guys. I mean seriously it is stacked. All right Diggle when you first sat down you were talking about everything you've been through. And then you mentioned five oh, five Buddha care the streets. And I I don't know if you caught it, but I go funny, you should say that because every in studio guests that we've ever had on the show for the past twelve years. I always ask them. Can you share good streetfight story? Oh, well, I definitely have a lot of them. Because let me just tell you how I became a fighter. It. I was I was in third grade. I grew up in the mobile home park. And I wanna tell this streetfight story. I could tell the one when I get jumped by fifteen crypts g that one's a good one to that. One was a real good one because I came out on top. There was even like weapons and everything, you know, it was that was a crazy. That's the crate. Definitely the craziest one fifteen onto. I had a cousin with me. And I had some backup. There showed up. You know, once it wants to fight was going down. I had some guys that came out maybe about three or four guys. So we'll we'll get in that one next time. But I wanna tell you guys about how it all started. It all started in the mobile home park. And I there was there was a kid and he was tough kid. And I was a I was another kid, and I was a little bit chubby. I wasn't you know, I let my momma should we we came from poverty. My mom came from some real poverty where they didn't really have that much food. So when we when I was growing up as an only child shout out to my mom, I love you. Mommy, you're the best mom in the world. And this this victory is going to be for you, mama. She just you know, she just didn't want me to be you know, she didn't want me to. She wanted me to be be hardy, you know. So when she put the toast in the morning for breakfast. She put a little extra butter on there. You've you know what I mean? And when win when it came time to go to a seven eleven she she didn't tell me. No. When I wanted to I wanted the flaming hot Cheetos, the chili cheese dog, the the the hostess cakes, and then I throw it down with with with with with a twenty ounce twenty ounce. Coca Cola, you know, that wasn't the best diet, you know? And so I I had a little bit extra cheeks. So they, you know, kids are ruthless kids Reuther still bullying to this day. I watched a video the other day though, on Instagram. Those was a terrible kid getting bullied, and I had a how to tell the guy that both of them. I don't even post that Roz is terrible. I know it creates awareness. But no, I like I don't want you to post is not good. And so I. I go back. All right. I'm in the parks this kid. You know, hey, challenges me to fight. He you know, he wants to fight in on. And he had his bigger brother there. And he was physically showing off for his bigger, brother. He wanted to wanted to square off with me in and beat me up and hold you. I will. I was in third grade. I was nine years old. Okay. And and the kid the kid, you know, I didn't have you know, there there wasn't the best kids around. All right. So these kids were punks. All right. I came from a better family. I wasn't a punk. But I didn't really have no one to hang out with. So like there was just these, you know, four kids at the trailer park. And and you know, I wanted to have some friends too. So, you know, like like, they were obviously a little cooler than meal, you know, they didn't have the Chevy face, you know. And and so I was hanging out with them. And and the kid the kid was like, you know, I I'll kick your ass. You know, I kick your ass. You think I could kick your ass like I'll night. No say, yeah. I think I think your ass. I think us. Right. Well, you know, like I'm down. Oh, you think you're my also-ran? This is STAN. All right. All right. And and so, you know, we we start going and sure enough, you know, I'm tagging them up. And you know, I at this point nine years old. I had started training camp. Oh karate as there was little chubby boy, but I started training some Campbell karate because I watched John Claude van Damme. And I wanted to be a fighter already. And so this was I I might have been like a white belt. I didn't I hadn't had didn't have so much training. But the kid who was like you do karate kick your ass. You think you'll beat me with your karate? I'll kick your ass. He's tough. These are tough. Boot get kids many kids were you know, these kids are already these kids were already smoking pot. I mean, we were we were barely in elementary school. Kids were gangster. I don't want to be insensitive, but we have one minute left. Hey, anyway. Let me tell you how it went down. All right. So I'm getting a better, man. I hit him with some good shots. How the story unfolds the older brother and the punk Fran had a jump in. All right. That's a type of toughness that you can't learn in the gym you can't learn that in MMA. Did you get them to deal with? You know, why the you know, what a an old Chinese lady came in and saved my life. You know, she saved me, but they were giving me the beat down. But I wasn't down. Now. And my heart was still looking right. Hey, that's sentence. And I'm I'm sure they they remember to I'm sure they kids 'cause I ran into one of them one time and they're like phone him onto Twitter at Diggle ground. Hey. He's an amazing athlete fights on Saturday. We are out of here folks out there and. You have to pay five check it out and no an ad from dad. All right. Save money on car insurance when you bundle home and auto with progressive. Gotta take these off. Right. What is this? Good. Wow. Where did you get this? I'm talking to you with the hair. Yeah. Where did you get this? Good stuff. Solid. That's not veneer that solid stuff. Progressive can't save you from becoming your parents, but we can save you money when you bundle home and auto. Progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and other insurance discounts not available in all states or situations.

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Chael Answers Your Questions PLUS Kevin Lee!

You're Welcome! With Chael Sonnen

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Chael Answers Your Questions PLUS Kevin Lee!

"Thank you for listening to this podcast one production available on apple podcasts and podcast one. This episode of your welcome is brought to view for free today by our friends at bed online dot. Ag September is all about beginnings the start of school the start a fall the star football season is that right now is a great time to get in on the tremendous sports betting action in the NFL and college football getting the mix at Bet online dot ag and use the Promo Code podcast one for your fifty percent welcome bonus bet online dot ag online sportsbook experts and the exclusive a partner of podcast once Lord snap these to feed it every champion from every organization the sport of mixed martial arts has ever seen and retired from the gone is the biggest draw and the industry's highest paid athlete of all time and now now jailed cernan's on podcast one dot com and for that. You're welcome welcome what's happening. Guys happy Wednesday and thank you for joining another special episode so you're welcome so conor McGregor is driving. Everybody nuts right every time there's a show connor does a call out of somebody of which he then doesn't follow through on and fight but he never any attention to the first place so whatever show people have called Conrad on this. What are you doing? This is nauseating. This is annoying. No it's none of those things it's thought provoking it's baffling. It's headline worthy and that was apparently beyond the fight where they because here we are look conor McGregor waits until she gets done with his business as with ceremony and instead of calling gates as he's done for every single major car there has been for three months he tweets out of date eight of December Fourteenth Comma Dublin and sends it out now. Obviously that's speculative. What is what is in December the Emma media chose to pick up cars announcing not only a fight but where he will be fighting the meanwhile if you go over to forums and channels and commercial activity in the whiskey business they believe that connors dropping a new product on December fourteenth the bottom line is he gave us no information he gave us new information at all he he didn't even attempt to he attempted to catfish and Bates you ate it up and then they get mad when he doesn't follow through with it fall through what what did he? What did we say we're going to do what promised to connor make owned by the way Carter in one hundred sixty characters or less generated over ten thousand responses sponsors and close to two million what the kids like to call engagements most fighters including top fighters could do a fist fight and not not generate two million engagements on their performance before you wanna come out and I love the people that think they're stepping connors? Just trying to troll troll connor just wants pitcher corner just walked. Thanks captain obvious is water wet and is the sky blue. I always love it when you get this new guy in MMA but all of a sudden he's the smart fan. He's the one that's figured everything out. Corner just wants to get its attention business. You dumb bastards. What do you think we're doing here? There's only a couple of ways to make money. In this field you can be in the business of winning fights that would be the most honorable that is the one that you would like to do that is one that you are sacrificing and tried to achieve oh and by the way if you win the fight the way the business is set up. You will double your yearly income. It's it's also very rare. What is the very hardware you could also be in the business of selling fight CONOR MCGREGOR IS I've been in business a winning fights in three years? He's in the business of selling selling fights and guess what businesses good every now and then you'll hit a grand slam win. A fight ages sold the fight. Now you're talking about the guy that comes along a once in a lifetime but if you find a great go ahead and run with it if conor McGregor vocal reaction and emotion out of you which is all the business side of this is the garnering of emotion of which you have to you can cheer or you can do the third is that you're indifferent. If you were indifferent to the outcome of an athletic contest those guys in the contest have failed so as much as you love to identify what Connor is doing and say that you even find find it annoying. That's an emotion and of Connor voted emotion connors winning so meanwhile in conjunction with that one Jeez you may find it irritating to anoc a good solid up down left right from connor as much as you might find that irritates that's not connors job. Connors job is to keep you engaged and and in his career that is job to do that while being out is nearly impossible. It's nearly impossible. It takes a thinker. It takes somebody who understands the the business a lot of which part is manipulation of the business of the fans to keep them engage. Let them be part a lot of putting out a great tweet or anything on social media is something that provokes thought not for nothing but it is and I realized how irritated it can be about if you WanNa look at the things that go viral speculation is a a lot more powerful than actual answers. You ever want to hurt a guy's feelings you ever want to start a rumor about him. Speculate towards something and then let everybody else. Try Try to figure out what it means. That will be something very damning. Speculation is a powerful thing generally used in a negative way but if cornered using this to to keep people interested to keep people saying his name to keep people coming up making talking about him. He's he's doing a really good job not for nothing. He's doing a great job. I saw another one. I saw right before I sat down here today. But my own friend Tyron Woodley tyrod go way back. We used to train together. We work together to this day. We hang out so time it gets. It's a Lotta slack with me but I also feel that I understand tyrant in a way that most people don't when tyrod was the champion there was this narrative about how difficult he was to work with. Oh I saw it. I saw very straightforward tyron woodley when he comes to a table has certain things he wants. If you agree on those things he expects you uphold your end but the other side of the tyrant store that never really got told was that he will uphold his people don't understand what a man of his word tired of hearing this tyrant difficult to work with. That's not true true. Tyrant just expects everybody including himself to do what they agreed to do. As long as that happens you'll be you'll be smooth as butter what Tyron Woodley but if you change thanks to change things. That's how he sees it. That is his code of ethics but he follows that code. I find tire it'd be a guy that has tremendous integrity but has largely been misunderstood. It's understood I preface that because tyrant took a little bit of a page out of Connor's book and while it is frustrating so let me back up on third base. Let me let me move back all the way to first tiring hiring came out in one fail swoop. He called out could be in one fell swoop. I he called for a rematch and it could be but one fifty five who's been one fifty five and in the same breath essentially an hour apart he says oh by the way I'm moving up to one hundred eighty five pounds. I'll none of that just doesn't work right. He pointed his. He allied his troops in three every directions. I don't think it was a crazy thing to do at all. I don't think it was an annoying thing to do. I think it was something that tyrant did because he understood the landscape and this is going to get some chatter I I'm not going to be but I'm not gonNA walk right it into Kamara even though he's available a former champion and I certainly in the top contender and by the way what eighty five compelling because that's somewhere I've never been and there's a total fresh coat of paint. I I think he created three different stories all at once and that will bother some people because they want a real direct answer. These guys don't owe you an answer they. They don't know you anything including the truth and that can drive you crazy but you have to understand if you're a member of the media when's the last time you told the truth. These guys get a left right and center. You're wrong. These guys will do an exact quote. There was caught on video. Put out to the world. They'll go back and quote and not get it right. It's the strangest you sing in the world. There's a store that's told in every class in America on the very first day of class and it's the story of the the gentleman who gets pulled over by the police officer and the police offer says have you been drinking and the person in the car says I've been drinking. The police officer writes it down and brings it to corporate never writes down the fact that he put it with a question mark thus changing the phrase completely and then they media members will only get their punctuation wrong which changes the entire statement they won't even get the quote right so if you're doing something with the media who doesn't do their team and write down on the words and the punctuation correctly possibly because they don't even know it possibly some of them don't even know the difference between a question mark and a period you don't owe them anything and that includes the truth. I until guys all the time. You don't answer questions you under subpoena to be here. If you're doing an interview you were not under subpoena you're not by or you don't answer questions you handle questions questions. I'm going to ask a question what is going on with Kabaeva Tony why it could be before his fight with call out Tony but but now after the fight is saying that won't be Tony it's going to be gs PG's piece of at the table now all I can interpret through some kind of gamesmanship and some kind of an annoying thing we all have to live through as can be goes in and tries to not honor his contract and do a new one with the UFC. That's the only thing I can make sense. Okay so if it's it's not going to be. It's not going to be George but if it's not going to be Tony who could be said. It's going to be by the way where's Tony out on this whole thing here Tony calling it can be how come I don't hear date set. How did I hear more about yeah? We're talking and you've seen in the middle of it and we're trying to find arena. Why is that of this exist? I don't have the answer I do have the the answer historically and other fights have been like this because everybody wants to come out to be a tough guy for the camera and behind saying they don't want to do it. They did a huge carrot dangled in front of them. They will operate from the stance of I am so good and I am so successful and I am so big that you must pay me this what they're really saying is. I don't know if I could beat this guy. It's going to hurt everything that a half from sponsorships to relationships to political influence. It's GonNa hurt everything I have. I'll go up there and take the risk and find this out the hard way but you're GonNa have to pay me. You'RE GONNA have to make up for everything that I am going to lose. That's what's really set anytime you hear guy come out and I'm so great on my resume so great you gotta pay me anytime you hear any reason I do not want to fight. It goes back to playground rules. You never saw kid in class refused to step behind the playground at three o'clock. Let's think you can beat the guy then he had all sorts of reasons from my my mother's coming to my girlfriend told me no too high. I hit so hi. This is always my I hit so hard. I don't WanNa hurt you and therefore I'm not even going to try taking the old karate right Craig. I never go into other. Their moves are just so deadly you know with the Navy seals that can kill you seven different ways with their thumb there you so you just have this level of ridiculousness but the answer is still. I don't WanNa do it and the real truth is I'm going to save face a standard because I got to come back tomorrow and you're all my classmates mason. I do respect your opinion that guy's going to beat my ass and I'm not going behind the slide great but when you hear these guys or boxing guys or anybody attempt to negotiate eight through the media and the public that's all they're trying to do is they're trying to save face in. There does appear to be something from one of those two camps. That's Amiss here something somewhere even if view were sworn to secrecy on a negotiation and you and I've been in the business a long time been on every side of the business from