22 Burst results for "George Mitchell"

Astros Scandal: MLB's Nightmare Continues

ESPN Daily

08:10 min | 6 months ago

Astros Scandal: MLB's Nightmare Continues

"You've been up in the northeast all winner in near thirty degrees to come down here in the first days of Spring and you already getting seventy five eighty and muggy. It's very different but you know hot not only with the weather but also with the players who well let's get into that Are you covering baseball a long time? Have you ever seen anything like we've witnessed over the last week? Absolutely not look. I mean the early days of spring training are usually about. Who's in good shape who worked? What pitch they worked on during the winter and here it's just flame-throwing. I know personally. I lost respect for those guys. Everyone in the show in the big leagues lost respect for those guys day after day after day of players being critical. But the part. That's so different is the peer to peer stuff. It's damaging to baseball. I feel like every single guy over. There needs a beating even through the steroid era. You didn't see this. Collective anger aimed at one group of players. The way we've seen other players so angry with the Houston Astros. They're angry at the Astros. And they're also angry at commissioner rob Manfred who stepped in it. I think it's fair to say on Sunday at his first press conference of Spring Training when he said the idea of an asterisk or asking for a piece of metal back seems a futile act. Justin Turner on the dodgers was not pleased. You know calling the world series trophy piece of metal. I mean I don't know if there's ever won anything in his life. Maybe he hasn't but the reason every guys in this room the reason every guy is working out all off season and showing up to camp early and putting it all the time. Effort is specifically for that trophy. I think we're used to seeing the likes of this directed towards the NFL. Commissioner Roger Goodell but before now Manfred laid pretty low. How has he generally been perceived by the players in the past well? There's no doubt that generally speaking that the relationship between players and Major League baseball is at its worst. I think in like twenty five years. You know what happened in the last time. The CBA was negotiated. Was the owners absolutely routed? The players in those talks getting a lot of advantages financial advantages taking a lot of the high ground that the players had owned the past and the last couple of years. We've seen that play out. In Free Agency. In veteran players have felt like that when they reach free agency. They're not getting as much money as they should have. So that's sort of been percolating the last couple of years and then when you have robbed make the comments that he he. He's made about the Astros in his handling of that case I think all that anger and it was built upon so he made the comment at the beginning of the week. What is he said since then? Well he acknowledged. He met with reporters on Tuesday night that he was mistaken in what he said. I referred to the World Series Trophy in a disrespectful way. And I want to apologize for that. There's no excuse for it I made a mistake. I was trying to make a point but I should have made it in a more effective way and again I want to apologize for it. Actually think that this was an important first step because he's made a lot of mistakes in this like the fact that in two thousand seventeen when you had the apple watch situation between the RED SOX and Yankees. He missed an opportunity at that time to draw a line in the sand to make it clear to everybody. Look Science. Stealing using electronics is not going to be accepted. He didn't do it in seventeen he didn't do it in eighteen. And let's face it when you listen to the players. Their anger over the fact that members the Astra's weren't disciplined that's viewed as another mistake. So I thought it was important for rob finally to acknowledge that. He's made mistakes. During this process. The players seem to have a problem with the fact that the astros players were given immunity a couple of days ago. Mike Trout said I don't agree with the the punishments you know the players not You know getting anything you know. There was a player driven You know thing cheat like that and not get anything it's it's It's sad to see which is remarkable buster because it's probably the most interesting thing might drive as every said about something other than the weather but it seems to be the way a lot of players feel why didn't Manfred punish them. Rob was in a position where this is not like the AA where you know the the head of the lake and come in and basically threaten players into cooperation. Major League baseball players are represented by the Union and so as they began this negotiation if they had simply gone in and told the players. Look we're coming you get the information. It would have been easy for the players to lawyer up and for a lot of the answers to Major League baseball to be along the lines of. I don't recall or I didn't hear that banging of the trash can and there's not really any way to challenge that and it would have been much more difficult for them to establish information if you remember fourteen years ago. George Mitchell was commissioned by Bud Selig to investigate the steroid era. He had no cooperation with the players because of the position of the Union. And I think that Manfred may have had the same situation if he hadn't given the players immunity. I think one thing to baseball looked at was boy we have litigation arbitration playing over the whole summer. At least this is one way to get to the truth quickly. Established what happened and try to put this in a rear view mirror. That clearly has not been as simple as they as they anticipated. Manfred has suggested that the players could have filed grievances because the Astros General Manager never sent along the rules. And I put the clubs on notice as to what exactly the rules were and how they were going to be treated going forward among the other failures of that organization. That information never made its way to the players. I was awesome. Well they just didn't do it. If we had disciplined the players in all likelihood we were GONNA have grievances and grievances that we were going to lose on the basis that we never properly inform them the rule so given those two. That's exactly right and that's sort of a classic thing because if you remember when Aj hinch the Astros manager did his interview with. Tom Produce one of the questions asked him was. Did Jeff Luneau tell you about this memo and Aj's answered very initially. No HE DIDN'T. The players could have done the same thing. Now you and I know from a point of view of common sense. That's kind of absurd because when the red sox apple watch thing happened in September two thousand seventeen that was out there like it was very public in disgust. That rob Manfred had come down with discipline and in warned. Everybody don't participate in this but again we're into lawyer speak now where well was they actually told specifically that. I wasn't allowed to do a B and C. No I wasn't I don't recall and would have been a morass rob's been commissioner now for five years buster. Is there any chance. He doesn't survive this no he. He's totally fine because of how much money they're making. I mentioned the two thousand sixteen collective bargaining agreement. How they were such an advantageous position when it comes to things like the luxury tax and they're making money hand over fist and for that reason he's fine. When people think about the commissioner I think casual fans will look at them as being the representative of the sport and representing the interests of fans and players and teams know. He's a team employee. He works for the owners and he's been doing a great job at making the owners a lot of money. He's on very solid ground

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How Watergate Set the Stage for the Trump Impeachment Inquiry

AM Joy

10:42 min | 11 months ago

How Watergate Set the Stage for the Trump Impeachment Inquiry

"The conversation you just heard between Richard Nixon and his former Attorney General John Mitchell in one thousand nine hundred ninety three was later used news to convict Mitchell on charges related to the Watergate cover up and to send him to prison Mitchell was one of several officials who wound up in prison after after Watergate less than there is that while trump may consider himself to be invincible thanks to that can't indict memo at the DOJ history suggests the people surrounding the president are not always safe. It was the release of these secret tapes that ultimately brought Nixon down but like trump Nixon fought to keep keep those tapes secret he did not admit to his crimes out in the open trump. Meanwhile not only admits to his crime because sometimes commits them on the White House lawn likewise China should start an investigation into the by because what happened in China is just about as bad as what it happened with with Ukraine so I would say that presidents Alinsky if it were me I would recommend that they start it into devices because nobody has any doubt that they weren't crooked. This really should come as no surprise because Donald Trump has repeatedly welcomed and even solicited foreign Kim's Hain help and he has a history of admitting his misdeeds on camera Russia if you listening I hope you're able to find the thirty thousand emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded. Mightily by our press regardless of recommendation I was going to fire. Call me knowing there was no good time to and in fact when I decided to you just do it. I said to myself. I said you know this rusher. Thing with trump and Russia is a made up story. You Might WanNA listen. I don't there's nothing wrong was listening. If somebody called from a country Norway we have information on your Oh. I think I'd want to hear you're like Nixon. Trump has managed to induce lots and lots of government officials from his vice president to the secretary of state diverse White House officials and diplomats to his is George Mitchell Attorney General William Bar to join in trump has already landed people in prison those who committed crimes to please or to help trump along with many others who were indicted and Robert Muller's Russia probe so the question for trump's people the people ladies corrupted as part of his own immensely corrupt government. Is that a dirty they willing going to get an are they risking sharing the fate of people like Mitchell in Flint and Michael Cohen Paul Manafort join now's Elizabeth Holtzman author of the case for impeaching in trump former assistant watergate special prosecutor Jill wine banks. MSNBC legal analyst my widely MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR BARBARA mcquade and Korean jean-pierre appear chief public affairs officer at move on Dot Org. Thank you all for being here. I'M GONNA go right down the middle of my interesting here and go right to Joe Wide Banks because let let me play you. This is congressman. This is actually a Republican congressman back in nineteen seventy three actually calling Nixon's impeachment take a listen to this after having read and reread and sifted and tested this massive information which came before us. I've come to the conclusion that Richard M Nixon Nixon has beyond a reasonable doubt committed impeachable offenses which in my judgment are of such sufficient magnitude egg the Tude that he should be removed from office. That's his name is representative Lawrence Hogan and I believe he is the father of the current governor of Maryland Larry Hogan. If I'm not wrong long so it is possible when people see the evidence they come to the conclusion that the president is committed high crimes and misdemeanors. That's high crimes and misdemeanors but what I want to ask you about jail is the people around Richard Nixon because not not a few of them went to prison. Can you just remind folks who around Nixon wound up not impeachment truck but on the going to jail truck well it was a big group of people who went to jail. It was his White House counsel John Dean who also cooperated with US and was I'm waiting for the John Dean of this scandal to come forward and it may already be the whistle blower it could be Mister Taylor from the State Department in addition his Attorney General John Mitchell went to jail his chief of staff went to jail Mr Haldeman even his chief domestic adviser. Mr Ehrlichman went to jail. There were a big cast of characters that went to jail because they committed crimes James and they did it because he set a tone that it was all okay I m above the law and whatever I do cannot be criminal. We have clear evidence that Donald Trump abetted by William bar is in exactly the same position of I'm invincible. I can do anything he has publicly stated dated that I have total authority to do whatever I want and that was the auditioned memo that attorney general by wrote to get the job so we're in really a the big fix here because the government has become completely lawless and they must be held accountable that is essential and I believe like Acre Representative Hogan that facts matter and I believe that even the most loyal Republicans who are now standing silent they may not be coming out for impeachment different but they aren't defending this terrible threat to national security in fact to world security because by not giving the equipment that was necessary to protect checked Ukraine. They are leaving Ukraine vulnerable to Russian further incursions and that's a terrible thing I mean even Mitt Romney Mitt Romney who who Korean I will remind folks. He did that humiliating auditions where he sat for dinner with Donald Trump to try to become secretary state the irony being had had he actually gotten the job. The likelihood is that Mitt Romney wouldn't have done what might pump pay does it wouldn't have been willing to go around selling these crazy conspiracy theories to prove approve Russia innocent and wouldn't have been willing to ignore subpoenas e but he'd be much more likely to do the right thing. This is what he wrote on twitter. He said when the only American citizen trump single singles out for China's investigations political opponent in the midst of the Democratic nomination process it's strains credulity to suggest it is anything politically motivated so at least there is the chance that there are awesome other Lawrence Hogan's. Maybe yeah I think that's right. I think Republicans a Senate Republicans in particular because we know that lawns who the Republicans who support Donald Trump up in the house. They're all like diehards. They're the ones who out out there. It's the Senate Republicans that we really kind of have to key in on and they've been pretty quiet right. They've been hiding except for four Ben Sasse and as you mentioned Mitt Romney and I think that's probably why Mitt Romney didn't become secretary of state. Donald Trump knew that because what does Donald Trump want right. He wants loyalty which is why he's getting from Pompeo you know where he's getting from pants and it's a one way street with Donald Trump. He will throw all them under the bus as he tried to pence for doing that. Press press press reading where he was just kind of like you should go look at pences phone Oh yeah and threw him under the bus so this is where we are and we're pumpkins have to really think about this. They have to think. Are they really going to really grab onto this wagon this unstable wagon that trump has having now who is a one you know kind of doing this this this this kind of war room on his his own hell bent on doing it and it's a twitter deck and it's really that's it and watching Cable News TV and this is where we are right now. Republicans really have to step up here and the other thing too is. We don't know how this is going to end up. We've never been in this place before impeachment on national security so we we just this is unchartered territory. Yeah absolutely and Barbara WanNA come back because you're so between what green is it which wine banks has said there are a number of people who are allowing themselves to be corrupted along with Donald Trump and the Nixon example is that Nixon didn't go to prison but a whole lot of people around him who you just heard Jill wine banks mentioned went to prison because people willing to commit the crime for him. There are willing to help him to do what he wanted done and once you've done it he may not have liability under that. Doj Memo but you might and I wonder if when you look at the fact that the Attorney General of the United States is flying around the world attempting to prove this conspiracy theory that it was Ukraine Russia that it attack our election when you have the State Department the head of the state our Secretary of State participating on the call lying to the American people about being on the call in which Donald Trump is pressuring a foreign government to help him with an election in which he's committing a crime for which apparently he can't be prosecuted right now where you have senior White House officials hiding hiding the evidence of transcript of Donald Trump's calls in a place that they're not supposed to be in a high security server when you have foreign diplomats pressuring Ukraine essentially trying to strong arm them to help Donald Trump with this conspiracy theory investigations in exchange for aid by could go on and on and on the number of people who are participating participating do any of those people Barbara face potential legal liability. Can any of these people pretend as the vice president and the secretary of state are pretending they don't have to listen to subpoenas but they like trump are above the law no joy any one of these people could be charged with a crime as we saw as Jill explained in the Watergate scandal. You know whenever you've got a public corruption investigation even at the just the garden variety the kind of cases that I was involved evolved with when you approach people you often tell them look you can be a witness or you're going to be a defendant in this case. The choice is yours and already I think we're seeing people people making that. Calculus Kurt Volker resigning abruptly last Friday and agreeing to come testify in bring those text messages which are incredibly Lee Damning. I have seen cases charged on far less where they are talking about the scheme and the scandal. I think Gordon Sunlen has extreme exposure exposure based on what is said in those I think Bill Taylor is someone at the State Department who looks like somebody who wanted to do the right thing.

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Epstein, Senate And Maxwell discussed on Mueller, She Wrote

Mueller, She Wrote

00:50 sec | 1 year ago

Epstein, Senate And Maxwell discussed on Mueller, She Wrote

"All right guys. Welcome back doc real quick. I'd like to go over some of the things that we are learning from the huge release of epstein documents that came out the day before he died by parents suicide. One of the most consequential consequential documents released was a previously sealed lawsuit against jews lane maxwell brought by virginia jeffrey in which she accused maxwell of procuring young girls for epstein in his powerful powerful friends two sides both sides settled in two thousand seventeen and the details of that settlement are under seal in his deposition she said that maxwell and epstein traffic her two former democratic governor bill richardson in new mexico prince andrew wealthy financier glenn dubin former senate majority lea former senate senate majority leader george mitchell modeling scout john luke brunell and an m._i._t. Scientists named marvin linski <hes> she was also directed to have sex with another prince

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Trump claims Russia investigation was 'treason'

Sean Hannity

07:14 min | 1 year ago

Trump claims Russia investigation was 'treason'

"But if that was likely Russian disinformation from the beginning in the dossier and then we see what they did with it I mean just all right to hookers urinating in a bed in in the Ritz Carlton in Moscow Donald trumps bad which you know that's why they had the spreadsheet John Solomon reported ninety some odd percent of this is all garbage the about new was all garbage but in spite of warnings multiple warnings Kathleen calve like Bruce or everybody else steel hates trump Hillary paid for it it's not verified now we know what's on verifiable the dossiers author Christopher steal those same by it okay but you use it any way you use it it gets disseminated to the American people of the poker is hearing it urinating in the bed story that's it doesn't sound like the Russians if it was if it was Russian disinformation likely from the beginning it sounds like the Russians weren't trying to hold Donald Trump which is banned one of the main points and main conspiracies a mainline is from the get go anyway joining us now good friend of the program is done great work all boy do we have news coming next week isn't it great when you know something awesome is come then you can't share with everybody to tell your audience your he's like you jerk you know only because we we are very careful I am you know I said this last night on TV we we double check triple check every source we don't want to get a story wrong thankfully we have not on this big you know two and a half years above I'm feeling layers of an onion but let me start with this you're the executive vice president investigative columnist at the hill right and you broken so many of these stories but I think what you really hit on just this week prior to Mahler could be the biggest piece of the puzzle and that is about George Mitchell said is a guy that well didn't the mother reports suggest he was part of Russian intelligence and the person he's a he's a flash point the start of the entire Russia collusion narrative if you don't have Joseph miss through writing out reaching out to George Papadopoulos in March of twenty sixteen and offering to introduce him to the Russians you don't have a predicate because as we know it was that conversation sort of conversations in March and April that the F. B. I. said prompted them to open up a investigation that became known as operation crossfire hurricane in which gave us this whole bogus Russian collusion narrative for two and a half years so he is the starting point of this entire investigation and in the great lawmakers who questions director Mahler drew out some very important information during the hearing which is they kept asking why didn't you charge Mister if you believe he lied the man who starts the entire investigation you don't charge come in but you can use them of lying and director Mahler could not provide an answer why you charged everybody else of lying but but not miss you and of course that predated by one day the story I had which in which missions lawyer says John there on the new turn US attorney rubber investigating the Russia collusion misbehavior that abuses by the potential boosted by the F. B. I. has reached out and sought an interview with Missy what does that tell us it means that the justice department isn't confident with Mahler's conclusions about Mr into we know from Mister lawyer that Mister lawyer is prepared to provide evidence of the justice department said back but here's the bell for this that his client wasn't some Russians dudes he was a long term western intelligence cooperators collaborator who was passed passed directed to approach George Papadopoulos an offer to make introductions in Russia meaning it could be a set up a western intelligence set up that would flip the entire case on its head okay now it's listed in and it goes to the heart of the issue something we have discussed from the get go to eat where people talk about it as the five buys an alliance our intelligence with United States Great Britain Italy and Australia Australian right and by the way interestingly did we out source some intelligence gathering in ways that would circumvent American law but our friends do it for us but basically ordering it done for us is how big a story is that likely to become here that's a great Russian this I think is a multiple fairy throwing a first off we don't know Mifsud or is water telling the truth and I've seen some documentation which I put in my store you can go to and download the actual documents that would suggest that there's some credence to what they're saying there's some clear evidence that misty was being directed to you introduced Papadopoulos too the Russians and secondly there was some trickery chicanery going on remember everyone in the media was gasping couple years ago the Papadopoulos might have met with Russia with what Amir Putin's needs a woman who is is supposed to be Vladimir people's needs I have seen clear and convincing evidence that the woman who was introduced by Mifsud too Papadopoulos with not a niece but in fact a student posing as a niece that that Mr took off of his campus that's the sort of trickery or OR undercover work and often goes on and either private intelligence ops or government ops I think one of the theories here it could be a government run MI six America who knows another theory was a private intelligence up someone had paid to have this dirty tricks states we don't know yet but the fact that John during his looking at it tells us the answers mother gave the justice department don't seem to be satisfying enough to be Attorney General let me ask you this I was recently got a call from somebody and I've always felt the George Papadopoulos you know he even said and it was reported that he said just the opposite of what people accused him of saying when they use them of lying he said I would I would find a traitorous if somebody alluded with the Russian column that was your column John Simon correct ball and a friend and so many reasons no don't trust this guy don't trust this guy and I looked at them and I said well it arm I have no reason to doubt what he said here and I've been told that there might actually be exculpatory evidence that proves him right that's exactly right remember we've heard multiple times on your show about lawmakers are come on your show referencing transcripts John and I as I many times before you have called for the release of those transcripts they exist I think those are in the process of being declassified I think we're gonna see some news on that the next few weeks but if there are transcripts before the FISA warrant was issued in which the FBI knew that George Papadopoulos not only was was not interested in in getting a Russian dirt and email for the Russians he actually said of doing it the campaign will consider to trees and they would never do that if you use those words it would have undercut the entire allegation they're asking the court for permission to to investigate it's the sort of information you're required under the law to tell the court we think something went on here but we have some evidence it goes the other way we need to show that to you we've heard from deafening as we've heard from John Radcliffe said there's a belief that some of this evidence was not given to the court if that gets the classified in we see really what the FBI knew about Papadopoulos it could really go to the heart of abuse by the FBI and the justice department in the fall of twenty

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Afghanistan, Two Days And Eighteen Years discussed on BBC Newshour

BBC Newshour

05:08 min | 1 year ago

Afghanistan, Two Days And Eighteen Years discussed on BBC Newshour

"We are going to start today the with Afghanistan events to bring an end to nearly eighteen years of conflict there are negotiations going on right now in kata for the last two days days of being between the Taliban and Afghan politicians not exactly the government the Taliban refuses to talk directly to them but officials none the less all sat down in the same room and the mood seems to be optimistic both sides are reporting progress there is a huge amount resting on the out come first and foremost people's lives just over three thousand eight hundred civilians were killed in Afghanistan last year many of them children the Taliban control more territory than ever and there's the question of American troops nine thousand at the moment but president trump wants to bring many of them hi one is to to someone with long experience of Afghanistan and the Taliban Michael Semple who Sir professor at the George Mitchell institute for global peace security and justice part of at queen's university Belfast welcome to knees Michael M. how much have the two sides move forward to think they haven't really move forward on this obstante is what they've done is they've they've stopped together on they've they've covered psalms of common ground and the the real test lies ahead isn't that is the time and sincere about wanting these talks to succeed wanting an end to the conflict you think well they certainly gone along with this sort of process of orchestrated talks so fat they are cooperating at but they haven't made any big compromises yet on the real question is will the Taliban be prepares to to compromise on big issues like stopping the fighting calling a cease fire so as to get to that which they desire which is a U. S. I. withdrawal I'm the in the declaration that came out of the these last two days of talks about a commitment from the Taliban not to attack places where there might be lots of civilians hospitals and schools and so on I mean that that sounds like progress well I think that the the declaration was carefully crafted to act cover things which were rather unobjectionable it would be difficult for anybody to argue in favor all of attacking schools or hospitals are public buildings out so of course in terms of the atmospherics it's very good to have this kind of decoration but if yesterday you dos the Taliban do you do this sort of thing they would probably have told you no we wouldn't dream of doing it anyway there was something else that came out of it to the side here of institutionalizing Islam of can you just explain that for us what does that mean exactly yes I think it is also the pattern all of going for a common ground at many in the Taliban say that they are fighting to establish an Islamic system enough on the stand but then when you talk to many of the people in Kabul even in the Afghan government they say well you know we are in favor of an Islamic system and we've already got one so you know Islamic system in general terms is the kind of thing that nobody off on some kind of forced to be against you later on you get into the detail all of okay whose Islamic system we often talk about the Taliban as this one entity how United on day behind this process on one level the Taliban are remarkable for having avoided any major splits and of having maintained a ostensibly unified movement which recognize one single leader and no one set of officials and commanders on one level it is a single for movement however when you open the cover and look inside of course you find that there are many different factions often operating at at cross purposes and with rather different views about the the road ahead on this kind of internal Taliban politics may become all the more important in the in the weeks ahead when we see if the Taliban are prepared to compromise for the sake of achieving a U. S. withdrawal or not yes I want to ask you about that in the moment but all that those within the movement to failed that this may point to negotiating because to all intents and purposes the Taliban has been very successful recently yes and we see this playing out I I I I have talked with people in the the Taliban movement who believe that they've essentially won the war that the cat and the U. S. will be obliged to withdraw its troops whether there is a peace agreement or not and that soon after the that that U. S. troop withdrawal the Taliban will succeed in toppling the Afghan government not we are whether you and I believe that or not is a distance out a different question but there are people inside the Taliban who do for I believe that and they are not in favor of any kind of a political compromise or we king on their weakening of their jihadi stunts does that mean then that the Taliban and to some extent a summer of playing a much longer game than the U. S. is the U.

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"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

02:53 min | 1 year ago

"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"I believe the reason that the president's hesitated to call the national emergency an exercise unilateral power is that Republicans greatly fear the precedent. This would set for the future. They're well aware that at some point in the future possibly as soon as two thousand twenty one they will be a democratic president and for members of the legislative branch. Now, the senators the leadership on both sides to surrender the independ-. Indi- authority of the legislative branch of our government to say that a president can declare an emergency in any time under any circumstances and act as he wishes, I think I it would be obviously challenged in court. It would be difficult value could battle because there are a lot of competing values. But I think Republicans who generally fear and oppose and have made public careers out of opposition to government authority are quite reluctant, and thankfully, so for what would be I believe an inappropriate use of executive authority and an expansion of presidential power that could come back the haunt them in the country in the future. Senator we have just a minute left to go. And there's one last question about Northern Ireland. And I wanted to ask you because I don't know if you you saw this unless twenty four hours there was some reporting out of the UK that Prime Minister Theresa may, this has to do with BreX. Floated a trial balloon about adjusting the Good Friday agreement in order to get Brexit through the they've vehemently denied it since then, but just your view on Northern Ireland and the UK now just got thirty seconds or so to go here. Well, it's hard. I believe Brexit was a mistake, and it could cause enormous problems in Northern Ireland, and certainly in the Republic of Ireland if it goes through I hope very much that time remains for them to cake an action that would permit the United Kingdom to remain in some separate status. They've done it for Norway for Switzerland for other countries. There's no reason why they can't do it for the U K and that remains in my hope the outcome with no change in the current status of the border in Northern Ireland. Well, Senator George Mitchell democratic Senator from Maine from nineteen eighty to nineteen ninety five and Senate majority leader from nineteen eighty nine to nineteen ninety five. And of course, he was the United States special on VoIP for Northern Ireland helped secure the Good Friday agreement in nineteen ninety eight. Who's also the United States special envoy for Middle East peace from two thousand nine to two thousand eleven Senator Mitchell, it's been a great pleasure to speak with you. Thank you. So very much. Thank you for having me back. Now, I Magnin trucker party. This is on point.

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"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

03:23 min | 1 year ago

"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"Very well sort of by guess relatively well, but Shaun what's your thought quickly? What what my question was is if President Trump decides to use the government emergency assistance to as, you know, call it as a crisis in order to enforce the his proposal of the wall. The why would he the American people hostage? I'm just a small town state worker, and I'm losing my benefits because of Sean thank you for your call. I believe the reason that the president's hesitated to claw the national emergency exercise unilateral power is that Republicans greatly fear, the Preston this would set for the future. They're well aware that at some point in the future possibly as soon as two thousand twenty one they will be a democratic president and for members of the legislative branch. Now, the senators the leadership on both sides to surrender the independ-. Indi- authority of the legislative branch of our government to say that a president can declare an emergency in any time under any circumstances and act as he wishes, I think I would be obviously challenged in court. It would be difficult cook value could battle because there are a lot of competing values. But I think Republicans who generally fear and oppose and have made public careers out of opposition to government authority are quite reluctant, and thankfully, so full. What would be I believe an inappropriate use of executive authority and an expansion of presidential power that could come back the haunt them in the country in the future. Senator we have just a minute left to go. And there's one last question about Northern Ireland. And I wanted to ask you because I don't know if you saw this unless twenty four hours there was some reporting out of the UK that Prime Minister Theresa may, this has to do with BreX. Floated a trial balloon about adjusting the Good Friday agreement in order to get Brexit through the they've vehemently denied it since then, but just your view on Northern Ireland and the UK now just thirty seconds or so to go here or well, it's hard. I believe Brexit was a mistake, and it could cause enormous problems in Northern Ireland, and certainly the Republican violent if it goes through I hope very much that time remains for them to take an action that would permit the United Kingdom to remain in some separate status. They've done it for Norway, Switzerland for other countries. There's no reason why they can't do it for the U K and that remains in my hope the outcome with no change in the current status of the border in Northern Ireland. Well, Senator George Mitchell democratic Senator from Maine from nineteen eighty to nineteen ninety five and Senate majority leader from nineteen eighty nine to nineteen ninety five. And of course, he was the United States special on voi- for Northern Ireland help secure the Good Friday agreement in nineteen ninety eight. Who's also the United States special envoy for Middle East peace from two thousand nine to two thousand eleven Senator Mitchell, it's been a great pleasure to speak with you. Thank you. So very much. Thank you for having me by I Magnin chocolate party this point.

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"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

04:37 min | 1 year ago

"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"Margaret, you're on the air. No, thank you for taking my call. And I would agree with the previous caller. And what I would like to see happen is we do have bipartisan like Ireland. We have bipartisan support for the bills that have been put through. And so I think the people holding this up right now are Senator McConnell and president. So I would like to see Senate twit through the bills that were given to them send them off to the White House. Not create a new Bill that's going to create new anx. Let's send the thing that everybody agreed on before to the White House. It's Mr. Trump chooses not to sign them. I send it could override this. I will tell you that in Kentucky. Although it's not making it on the news. Many of Mr. Senator McConnell people are already trying to get hold them to say open the government needs to hero in this. So I would like to see the original the budget. It was green upon by all of them. The only persons owning up then is. Mr. Trump for a while he promised we wouldn't pay for we can't afford that while and most people don't want right for taking a Margaret. Thank you for your call. Well, I would like to see that. But the reality is it's not going to happen. Senator McConnell is not going to present that same Bill again. The Republican senators are not going to do that present that same Bill again. A large part of the reason why he's going to offer. This other Bill is to ineffective move away from her shake off the legacy of the Bill that they passed two weeks ago. So while I agree. It's a desirable outcome. I think it's very unlikely outcome, and you have to deal with your allies at the building going to present will represent the president's offer. Plus what ever sweeteners they can put in whatever issues they could put in to try to attract enough democratic senators to enacted. I don't think they'll succeed in that. Although it'll be. An uncomfortable vote for many Democrats Senator Mitchell, and I'm still thinking, but we what you said in the beginning of our conversation. The a step towards a successful negotiation is to broaden the issues away from you know, the single win-loss issue of the wall. Right. Enter to talk more holistically about immigration. But you know, as you noted we we saw that we went through a couple of processes a couple of negotiations last year that didn't do the did do exactly that. But those ultimately were undermined by the very hard line on legal immigration, for example, that some of the president's advisors are really pushing. So haven't we also all ready encountered, you know, the pitfalls of of widening the key the terms of negotiation too, far one of the cardinal principles negotiating difficult issues as you do don't take the I know as the last answer is a seventh. No or the seven. Eighteenth. No in Northern Ireland. I'm fond of saying we had seven hundred days of failure. And one day of success over period of years almost every day. I was asked by one or more reporters when are you leaving you have failed to get an agreement? And when are you going back to the states, and they were right up until that moment, we had failed to get an agreement, and we didn't get it until the very last the seven hundred day, persistence. Patience determination is absolutely essential in these circumstances. And you're absolutely right. We didn't that efforts were made they failed. What we have to do is learn from those failures and try again, Senator Mitchell, I have to say what you just said is the most hopeful and uplifting thing I've heard about this down in in many many weeks to remind us the seven hundred knows are just what procedures the one key. Yes. Incredible. Let's just get one. More call in here. Sean is calling from Decatur Illinois. Sean, you're on the air. Hi. How's it going today? Very well sort of by guess relatively well, but Shaun what's your thought quickly? What what my question was is if President Trump decides to use the government emergency assistance to as, you know, call it as a crisis in order to enforce the his proposal of the wall. The why would he owed the American people hostage? I'm just a small town state worker, and I'm losing my benefits because of Sean thank you for your call..

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"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

04:34 min | 1 year ago

"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"Well, that is a central. Problem. I said many times that in Northern Ireland in the Middle East and elsewhere lack of trust indeed active mistrust is the central contributor to the problem. Because if you don't believe anything of aside says it's very hard to take action on it. I overcame that Noel that island by setting out a deeply details series of steps to be taken by all sides negotiated in advance in private before they would take an in public. So that it eliminated the need for trust other than that. They would keep the word of what they agreed to which they did. But I think that's a huge factor. And it's a big problem for Democrats. Go sheeting fact that the president does repeatedly changes mind as he demonstrated on this very issue just a couple of weeks ago, nonetheless, he is the president. There is an issue. There is a problem. It must be solved and therefore negotiations must take place. Although. Not an optimal conditions. You have to deal with the reality. As it exists. Not as you wish it were. You know, we spoken a lot about President Trump here. But I, you know, if you were say there were mediator between between Republicans and Democrats right now, what would you tell house speaker Nancy Pelosi? What would you advise her? While I think speaker Pelosi has chosen what I believed to be the proper course, and that is to enact all of the appropriations legislation that is unrelated to border and border security and allow the government to go forward to me that makes clear sense. The president has reversed has rejected that although she's going to enact quoting to the press the appropriations bills the house that the Republicans in the Senate themselves approved just a short time ago was one reason why they're desperate to tape. Get their own Bill up there to look like they're taking action because they're embarrassed. By the fact that the bills that they pass are now unacceptable to the president in this current impasse. I do think that Nancy who's I is is a friend and someone I like and respect is ultimately going to have to recognize as will Chuck Schumer. That at some point the has to be negotiation. No matter the circumstances. And I think the going to recognize that it can't be done at different levels much negotiation that I did in Northern Ireland was in private and in some cases in complete secrecy, and you don't do everything in public through televised appearances. And I think that has to happen at some point in whatever circumstances exist to bring to bring about an opening of the government, and then a negotiation over the very serious issues that we face on immigration. So that's a really interesting point. And I wondering how do we how do we get to that point where there are substantial talks in private because so much, and in fact, our caller was hinting to this as well, he was he was basically saying that so much it is happening in the public sphere through the media through social media through moments where I mean, as you know, Senator Mitchell when Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer were sitting in the. The Oval Office, and the president invited the White House press pool in I mean, I is their way to get beyond the beyond the highly public nature of the the the sniping that we're seeing going on who one of the great challenges that I faced Northern Ireland the Middle East in which our leaders faced today is the competition values between the public right to know conducting public business in public and the necessity that some discussions and negotiations must occur in private and in secrecy. It's very hard to do it particularly in a country like ours, where we have an open system social media. Everybody's a reporter. Everybody's got a camera to take your picture wherever you are record. What you're saying wants to know what you said three minutes ago, and yet some go actions have to occur in private and in secrecy. That's the only way. Can function. It's a tremendous challenge. There's a tension between the two I faced often when I was Senate majority leader, and when I served in Northern Ireland and the.

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"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

04:19 min | 1 year ago

"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"On voi- to Northern Ireland and help secure the Good Friday agreement in nineteen ninety eight that put an end to the troubles as they were known in Northern Ireland. He was also United States special envoy for Middle East peace from two thousand nine to two thousand eleven and Senator Mitchell if I may let me just go to our phones here really quickly and get a couple of calls in. So let's turn to Larry who's calling from Buffalo New York. Larry you're on the air. Hi on a ferry of of wealth. A little bit. The to have a guest Senator Mitchell here with his accomplishments that very difficult negotiations of that really was a life threatening situation as truly remarkable. And I wondering if he could address the issues that right now as far as I understand, we don't really have the tape the party's talking at the same table together as well as these negotiations that they're being called. They're really not negotiations. These are public media utterances, they're not as a result of any true negotiation that's going on. And so I think those who'd be addressed that the current climate is not really reflective of that. And I think also the fact that the principal party here form of our president has shown a disdain for negotiations. He doesn't really negotiate. He more operates the power. I think in strictly from that and by Fiat, and so his ability or willingness to truly to go shade is questionable. I think also. You have to question now whether night if people are in agreement that the government shutdown is not germane to the current situation, and it should be ended. Then why isn't more pressure being applied to the Republicans in the Senate to override the president's decision and get the government reopen? I think that could be talked about much more, and what the couple -bility is when Republicans now to undo this logjam really that's preventing to negotiations. Thank you for your call Senator Mitchell, it's worked backwards from what Larry is said here. First of all just your response to him saying his his suggestion that there should be more pressure put on Republicans to to deal with the shutdown. I. Will dump garage trying to do that. But the Republican senators and to a lesser extent. But some degree the house members are in a tough spot their basis the president's base, and it pretty clear that going against the president is very difficult for them, politically, they're all embarrassed. By the fact, that they one hundred percent voted for the legislation just a couple of weeks ago in the belief that the president is going to sign it, then he reversed himself just a few hours later when he took some flak from the right wing. So it's tough spot for them to be in. I agree with much of what Larry said. But the fact is what what they're why they're going to bring this Bill up. Tomorrow is too ineffective. Turn the tables on that embarrassment of the last couple of weeks and try to put Democrats into Saint position. It is true that the president has not been involved much indirect negotiation. But it is also true that vice president Pence. The president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner and others have been involved in talks. And so I think you'll likely to see that accelerating the longer this goes on. And I I hope that does happen. I think it has to be brought to negotiate it and nationally televised addresses are a form of negotiation, but by themselves insufficient. And I think it will the public pressure and the the loss of support on both sides. I think is going to contribute to come to an end through negotiation. Is there also a fundamental lack of trust? That's part of the problem here that that the progress can't be made for as long, as you know, for all the reasons that you just gave there isn't a sense that that that Democrats feel like they just can't trust the president in his decision making or or you know, which way the wind might blow next. And and if so how do you build trust between the groups? Well, that is a central. Problem. I said many times that in Northern Ireland in the Middle East and elsewhere lack of trust indeed active mistrust is the central contributor to the problem..

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"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

04:29 min | 1 year ago

"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"This is on point. I'm Meghna Chuck Roberti. We're trying to get some insight on possible ways to end the government shutdown and we're doing so by hearing from Senator George Mitchell, he is democratic Senator from Maine from nineteen eighty to nineteen ninety-five. And of course, also served as Senate majority leader from nineteen eighty nine thousand nine hundred ninety five but for this conversation. Most importantly, he was the United States special on voi- to Northern Ireland and help secure the Good Friday agreement in nineteen ninety eight that put an end to the troubles as they were known in Northern Ireland. He was also United States special on voi- for Middle East peace from two thousand nine to two thousand eleven and Senator Mitchell if I may let me just go to our phones here really quickly and get a couple of calls in. So let's turn to Larry who's calling from Buffalo New York. Larry you're on the air. Hi, I'm a very of of wealth a little bit. The to have a against Senator Mitchell here with his accomplishments in a very difficult negotiations that really was a life threatening situation as truly remarkable. And I wondering if he could address of the issues that right now as far as I understand, we don't really have the tha the party's talking at the same table together as well as these negotiations that are being called, they're really not negotiations. These are public media utterances, they're not as a result of any true negotiation that's going on. And so I think those who'd be addressed that the current climate is not really reflective of that. And I think also the fact that the principal party here form of our president has shown a disdain for negotiations. He doesn't really negotiate. He more operates the power. I think in strictly from that and by Fiat and so his. Ability or willingness to truly go shade us is very questionable. I think also you have to question now whether night if people are in agreement that the government shutdown is not germane to the current situation, and it should be ended. Then why isn't more pressure being applied to the Republicans in the Senate to override the president's decision and get the government reopen? I think that could be talked about much more, and what the couple -bility is when Republicans now to undo this logjam really that's preventing to negotiations. Thank you for your call Senator Mitchell, it's worked backwards from what Larry's said here. First of all just your response to him saying his his suggestion that there should be more pressure put on Republicans to to deal with the shutdown. I. Will Democrats trying to do that? But the Republican senators and to a lesser extent. But some degree the house members are in a tough spot their basis the president's base, and it's pretty clear that going against the president is very difficult for them, politically, they're all embarrassed. By the fact, that they one hundred percent voted for the legislation just a couple of weeks ago in the belief that the president is going to sign it, then he reversed himself just a few hours later when he took some flak from the right wing. So it's a tough spot for them to be in. I agree with much of what Larry said. But the fact is what what they're why they're going to bring this Bill up. Tomorrow is too ineffective. Turn the tables on that embarrassment of the last couple of weeks and try to put Democrats into Saint position. It is true that the president has not been involved much indirect negotiation. But it is also true that vice president Pence. President's son-in-law, Jared, Kushner, and others have been involved in talks. And so I think you'll likely to see that accelerating the longer this goes on and I hope that does happen. I think it has to be brought to negotiated and nationally televised dry says are a form of negotiation, but by themselves insufficient, and I think it will the public pressure and the the loss of support on both sides. I think he's going to contribute to come to an end through negotiation. Is there also a fundamental lack of trust? That's part of the problem here that that the progress can't be made for as long, as you know, for all the reasons that you just gave there isn't a sense that that that Democrats feel like they just can't trust the president in his decision making or or you know, which way the wind might blow next. And and if so how do you build trust between the groups?.

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"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

04:24 min | 1 year ago

"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"That's one point interrupting, but on that point, though, if you just offer a question, I mean, what makes it what is to me. Me let seems to make it rather difficult is the uniqueness and unpredictability of this particular president, right? Because we you know, I could see a an agreement that that includes exactly what you just said. But as the president has proven multiple times last year, he seems very susceptible to the criticisms of you know, advisers such as Stephen Miller who want a much harder line all immigration, or when Ann Coulter threw a bomb over social media that that seems to sway him in a way that makes it impossible to broaden the con to you know, to broaden, the terms of negotiation and to reframe it in the way, you're talking about your, yes. But you describe the same event says the president is has repeatedly changed his mind on several aspects of this issue and other issues when presented with evidence that it makes sense to do something else. Let me give just one other example, there are an estimated eleven million illegal immigrants in the country. There. Subject of a great deal of discussion on all sides. The fact is that a majority of those better than have don't come through the southern border, and they don't come illegally they entered the country legally with visas that are time limited. They stay after the visas are expire. So they are they convert themselves from legal immigrants to illegal immigrants. They come mostly into airports in our country. And we don't have an effective system for tracking them and forcing limitations on their visas. That's border security every much bit every much as a wall on our southern border. In fact, it's the principal source of illegal immigrants in the country, a an enhanced technological solution to that problem would go along. Way toward reducing the population of illegal immigrants in the country. And would be a step that everyone can claim victory on one of the problems here is that the president whether deliberately or not constantly conflates legal and illegal immigration, one of the least publicized parts of his proposals. Is of course that he wants to reduce legal immigration, right? Even though the one million legal immigrants coming in tend to be not primarily Hispanic from Central America. But Asian fifty percent of them a college graduates substantially higher than the college graduation rate among established Americans. And so we shouldn't be in. We shouldn't be decreasing legal immigration. We should be enhancing it to make sure we get the best people from around the world who contribute. So. Much to our society. I'd like to make one of the point if I could before the next break because I I think it's very important. There's nothing new about any of this every person in America came here from somewhere else or is derived from people who came here from someone else three hundred thousand years ago humans first appeared on earth in Africa. It took them a long time to spread around the world. Not until fifteen thousand years to go to any human set foot in the American continent. They came from central Asia people with darker skin black hair, they spread around they became the native Americans five hundred years later, white people came from Europe west across the Atlantic. And since then there has been discrimination. Demonization controversy over immigration. It's not new it says. As old as our country. Well, Senator George Mitchell standby for just a moment. We'll be right back where talking with Senator Mitchell leaning on his experience being these US special envoy for peace negotiations in Northern Ireland and also in the Middle East. This is on point..

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"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

04:24 min | 1 year ago

"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"That's one forgive me for interrupting. But on that point, though, if I could just offer a question, I mean. What makes it what to me seems to make it rather difficult is the uniqueness and unpredictability of this particular president, right? Because we you know, I could see an an agreement that that includes exactly what you just said. But as the president has proven multiple times last year, he seems very susceptible to the criticisms of you know, advisers such as Stephen Miller who want a much harder line on all immigration, or when Ann Coulter threw a bomb over social media that that seems to sway him in a way that makes it impossible to broaden the con to you know, to broaden, the terms of negotiation and to reframe it in the way, you're talking about your, yes. But you describe the same event says the president is has repeatedly changed his mind on several aspects of this issue and other issues when presented with evidence that it makes sense to do something else. Let me give just one other example. There are an estimated eleven. In million illegal immigrants in the country. They're the subject of a great deal of discussion on all sides. The fact is that a majority of those better than have don't come through the southern border, and they don't come illegally they entered the country legally with visas that are time limited. They stay after the visas are expire. So they are they convert themselves from legal immigrants to illegal immigrants. They come mostly into airports in our country. And we don't have an effective system for tracking them and forcing limitations on their visas. That's border security every much has bit every much as a wall on our southern border. In fact, it's the principal source of illegal immigrants in the country, a an enhanced technological. Solution to that problem would go a long way toward reducing the population of illegal immigrants in the country. And would be a step that everyone can claim victory on one of the problems here is that the president whether deliberately not constantly conflates legal and illegal immigration, one of the least publicized parts of his proposals. Is of course that he wants to reduce legal immigration, right? Even though the one million legal immigrants coming in tend to be not primarily Hispanic from Central America. But Asian fifty percent of their college graduates substantially higher than the college graduation rate among established Americans. And so we shouldn't be in. We shouldn't be decreasing legal immigration. We should enhance it to make sure we get the best. People from around the world who contribute so much to our society. I'd like to make one of the point if I could before the next break because I I think it's very important. There's nothing new about any of this every person in America came here from somewhere else or is derived from people who came here from someone else three hundred thousand years ago humans first appeared on earth in Africa. It took them a long time to spread around the world. Not until fifteen thousand years to go to any human set foot in the American continent. They came from central Asia people with darker skin black hair, they spread around they became the native Americans five hundred years later, white people came from Europe west across the Atlantic. And since then there has been discrimination. Demonization controversy. Over immigration. It's not new it's as old as our country. Well, Senator George Mitchell standby for just a moment. We'll be right back where talking with Senator Mitchell leaning on his experience being these US special envoy for peace negotiations in Northern Ireland and also in the Middle East. This is on point..

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"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

01:44 min | 1 year ago

"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"It got sixty eight votes in the Senate substantial numbers of both Democrats Republicans, but it was not brought up in the house because the speaker wouldn't bring it up in part because it would have passed headed come up in the house. They'll enough votes to have it and the Republicans then operated in the house under rule that said you don't bring a Bill up unless a majority of Republicans afford, not a majority of the house, but majority of members of their own party. So precisely because it would have passed with a bipartisan vote. It wasn't brought up. Right. If you can now get back to a full negotiation. You might be able to get a Bill that attracts enough support for both sides. Well, Senator Mitchell we have to take a break here in just a minute. There's so many aspects of what you managed in Northern Ireland that I wanted to discuss with you as well to learn from, but but in just a couple in thirty seconds or so be before we have to take a break in hearing all that you just said, though, isn't the implication that we that for any negotiation to be successful. You need to parties who are willing to act in good faith. And do we have that in Washington right now? Well, that's always difficult indoor Lynn island had the additional factor of tremendous violence and threat of violence that was a powerful motivating force people to get together that doesn't exist here. But I think there's enough of a basis to proceed in serious negotiation. All right. Well, we'll talk more about it. When we come back from a quick break that Senator George Mitchell, he was democratic Senator from Maine from nineteen eighty to nineteen ninety-five. Former senate. Majority leader from nineteen eighty nine thousand nine hundred ninety five and we're talking to him today because he was the United States special envoy for Northern Ireland. He helped secure the Good Friday agreement historic in nineteen ninety eight. So what lessons does this mess? Negotiator have for us in Washington over the government shutdown now, we'll be back..

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"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

01:45 min | 1 year ago

"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"It got sixty eight votes in the Senate substantial numbers of both Democrats Republicans, but it was not brought up in the house because the speaker wouldn't bring it up in part because it would have passed headed come up in the house. They'll enough votes to have it and the Republicans then operated in the house under rule that said you don't bring a Bill up unless a majority of Republicans afford, not a majority of the house, but a majority of members of their own party. So precisely because it would have passed with a bipartisan vote. It wasn't brought up. Right. If you can now get back to a full negotiation. You might be able to get a Bill that attracts enough support for both sides. Well, Senator Mitchell you have to take a break here in just a minute. There's so many aspects of what you managed in Northern Ireland that I wanted to discuss with you as well to learn from, but but in just a couple in thirty seconds or so be before we have to take a break in hearing all that you just said, though, isn't the implication that we that for any negotiation to be successful. You need to parties who are willing to act in good faith. And do we have that in Washington right now? Well, that's always difficult indoor leeann island had the additional factor of tremendous violence and the threat of violence that was a powerful motivating force people to get together that doesn't exist here. But I think there's enough of a basis to proceed in serious negotiation. All right. Well, we'll talk more about it. When we come back from a quick break that Senator George Mitchell, he was democratic Senator from Maine from nineteen eighty to nineteen ninety-five former. Senate majority leader from nineteen eighty nine thousand nine hundred ninety five and we're talking to him today because he was the United States special envoy for Northern Ireland. He helped secure the Good Friday agreement historic in nineteen ninety eight. So what lessons does this mess? Negotiator have for us in Washington over the government shutdown now, we'll be back. This is on point..

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"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

03:11 min | 1 year ago

"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"Listen to each other put down their armor Bill trust reach across the aisle and find solutions that's the president from the White House this weekend. And let's listen to little bit more of how a key democrat Senator. Mark Warner from Virginia responded he was on NBC's. Meet the press yesterday what the president proposed yesterday increasing border security looking at tip looking at at the dreamers. I'll use that as a starting point. But you've got to start by opening the government what we cannot do. I've actually had Republicans as well recognizes is that we cannot reward the kind of behavior of hostage-taking because if the president can arbitrarily shut down the government now he will do it time. And again that Senator Mark Warner on Sunday Gabby when we come back to you on on on the Senate majority leader Senator Mitch McConnell here because it wasn't I guess up until very. We recently the past couple of days, a Senator was saying that he you know, wouldn't bring anything to vote that has that didn't have the president's approval. And I guess because this is the president's plan. He's willing to to bring it to a Senate vote on the Senate floor. But is that going to nudge anything realistically, given the no Democrats gonna support it? Well, I think the mentality here on behalf of Republicans and the White House, and this includes leader McConnell is that if they can get, you know, fifty one fifty every single member of the Senate Republican caucus to vote for this all fifty three Republican senators, then at least they can go out there. And then show, you know, we put forward a solution. We voted for it in the Senate. No Democrats came on board. Democrats aren't willing to negotiate. I mean, that's what we've sort of heard them hint at in the last few days since the president introduces proposal, and since Democrats even preemptively responded to it saying that. Are not going to support this unless the government is reopened. You know, McConnell has sort of been this curious figure threat all this because he's very much been behind the scenes involved in negotiations, but not really speaking publicly about the direction or where things are headed. And meanwhile insistent as you said that there's no utility in even thinking about a solution to the shutdown at doesn't have the president blessing that the president wouldn't sign into law. If it passes Senate and the house, so I think this is a move where they're just trying to increase the pressure on Democrats to come to the table, regardless of whether the government is shut down or not. We'll Gabby or covers the White House of four politico bringing us up to speed on what happened in Washington regarding the shutdown this weekend. Gabby. Thank you. So very much. Thank you. Okay. So it still has very much the feel of an intractable impasse this government shutdown. So let us turn now to someone who helped negotiate an end to what was one of. The most intractable impasses anywhere in the world. Joining us now from New York is Senator George Mitchell, he was democratic Senator from Maine from nineteen eighty to nineteen ninety five he served a Senate majority leader from nineteen eighty nine to nineteen ninety five.

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"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

03:09 min | 1 year ago

"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"Down their armor, build trust reach across the aisle and find solutions that's the president from the White House this weekend. And let's listen to a little bit more of how a key democrat Senator. Mark Warner from Virginia responded he was on NBC's. Meet the press yesterday what the president proposed yesterday increasing border security looking at tip looking at at the dreamers. I'll use that as a starting point. But you've got to start by opening the government what we cannot do. And I've actually had Republicans as well recognizes is that we cannot reward the kind of behavior of hostage-taking because if the president can arbitrarily shut down the government now he will do it time. And again that Senator Mark Warner on Sunday Gabby when we come back to you on on on the Senate majority leader Senator Mitch McConnell here because it wasn't I guess up until very. We recently the past couple of days. The Senator was saying that he you know, wouldn't bring anything to vote that has that didn't have the president's approval. And I guess you know, because this is the president's plan. He's willing to to bring it to a Senate vote on the Senate floor. But is that going to nudge anything realistically, given the no Democrats going gonna support it? Well, I think the the mentality here on behalf of Republicans and the White House, and this includes leader McConnell is that if they can get, you know, fifty one fifty every single member of the Senate Republican caucus to vote for this all fifty three Republican senators, then at least they can go out there. And then show, you know, we put forward a solution. We've voted for it in the Senate. No Democrats came on board. Democrats aren't willing to negotiate. I mean, that's what we've sort of heard them hint at in the last few days since the president introduces proposal, and since Democrats even preemptively responded to it saying that. Are not going to support this unless the government is reopened. You know, McConnell has sort of been this curious figure threat all this because he's very much been behind the scenes involved in negotiations, but not really speaking publicly about the direction or where things are headed. And meanwhile insistent as you said that there's no utility in even thinking about a solution to the shutdown at doesn't have the president blessing that the president wouldn't sign into law as it passed the Senate and the house. So I think this is a move where they're just trying to increase the pressure on Democrats to come to the table, regardless of whether the government is shut down or not. We'll Gabby or covers the White House of four politico bringing us up to speed on what happened in Washington regarding the shutdown this weekend. Gabby. Thank you. So very much. Thank you. Okay. So it's still has very much the feel of an intractable impasse this government shutdown. So let us turn now to someone who helped negotiate an end to what was one of. The most intractable impasses anywhere in the world. Joining us now from New York is Senator George Mitchell, he was democratic Senator from Maine from nineteen eighty to nineteen ninety five he served a Senate majority leader from nineteen eighty nine to nineteen ninety five.

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"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

02:32 min | 1 year ago

"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"It on radio and Senator George Mitchell will be joining us in just a couple of minutes. But first we want to get the latest on the shutdown and the political impasse in in Washington. So joining us his Gabby or she covers the White House for politico. Gabby welcome to the program. Hi, thanks for having me on. Okay. So first of all give us a little update. As of today are there is there any any progress any further reaction from Democrats to what the president offered in his thirteen minutes speech. He gave from the White House this weekend. Well, what we've heard over the weekend since the president delivered. Those remarks offered up that latest proposal is basically near uniformity on both sides. Democrats are saying that they won't negotiate until the government is reopened. And essentially, the the the offer that the president made on Saturday is sort of a combination of already rejected proposals. So this idea that he might be able to trade temporary extensions for temporary protected status holders or extend the protections. That are currently in place for Dacca recipients in exchange for border wall funding, that's something that has already been thrown on the table and rejected by Democrats before an also President Trump himself rejected that last year when that was when a Dako for border wall. Funding proposal was was being discussed in the Senate. So they say that this is not, you know, they're not prepared to move forward on this as we heard from Senator. There are some Democrats who think this is a good starting point so long as the government is reopened first. And then they might be willing to approach deal like this for Republicans. However, they are moving forward with a vote this week Senator McConnell plans to introduce this Bill to the floor this week Republicans nearly uniformly back it, but it's not going to get a single democrat. Okay. So so hold your thought there on Senator McConnell 'cause I wanna come back to it. But but let's hear a little bit of what the president said this weekend. Again, a Gabby as you noted he offered three years of deportation relief for some immigrants in some changes to asylum rules, but temporary underscored the word temporary in return for five point seven billion dollars for his border wall. And here's a little bit more. What the president said the good news is these problems can all be solved. But only if we have the political courage to do what is just and what is right. Both sides in Washington must simply come together..

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"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

02:32 min | 1 year ago

"george mitchell" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"On point radio and Senator George Mitchell will be joining us in just a couple of minutes. But first we want to get the latest on the shutdown and the political impasse in in Washington. So joining us his Gabby or she covers the White House for politico. Gabby welcome to the program. Hi, thanks for having me on. Okay. So first of all give us a little update. As of today are there is there any any progress any further reaction from Democrats to what the president offered in his thirteen minutes speech. He gave from the White House this weekend. Well, what we've heard over the weekend since the president delivered. Those remarks offered up that latest proposal is basically near uniformity on both sides. Democrats are saying that they won't negotiate until the government is reopened. And essentially, the the the offer that the president made on Saturday is sort of a combination of already rejected proposals. So this idea that he might be able to trade temporary extensions for temporary protected status holders or extend the protections. That are currently in place for Dacca recipients in exchange for border wall funding, that's something that has already been thrown on the table and rejected by Democrats before. And also President Trump himself rejected that last year when that was when a Dacca for border wall. Funding proposal was was being discussed in the Senate. So they say that this is not, you know, they're not prepared to move forward on this. As we heard from Senator Warner. There are some Democrats who think this is a good starting point so long as the government is reopened first. And then they might be willing to approach deal like this for Republicans. However, they are moving forward with a vote this week Senator McConnell plans to introduce this Bill to the floor this week Republicans nearly uniformly back it, but it's not going to get a single democrat. So hold your thought there on Senator McConnell 'cause I wanna come back to it. But but let's hear a little bit of what the president said this weekend. Again, a Gabby as you noted he offered three years of deportation relief for some immigrants and some changes to asylum rules, but temporary underscored the word temporary in return for five point seven billion dollars for his border wall. And here's a little bit more. What the president said the good news is these problems can all be solved. But only if we have the political courage to do what is just and what is right. Both sides in Washington must simply come together..

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"george mitchell" Discussed on KSFO-AM

KSFO-AM

04:45 min | 1 year ago

"george mitchell" Discussed on KSFO-AM

"Saga continues. Grab audio sound bite number twenty five George Mitchell. And I mentioned yesterday that and I I didn't I didn't tell the story in detail because I'm told it so many times, but I'm I'm remembering things that I have not mentioned about so I may delve back into it. But it was in June of nineteen Ninety-two that I had the opportunity to to have dinner with the President Mrs Bush, forty one at the White House and then went to the Kennedy Center with them. For the performance for. I forget what the performance was. And went back stage at the intermission to meet the cast. And then we split back to the White House where we went to the presidential study and chatted about the campaign for about an hour. Maybe even longer than that than it was to the Lincoln bedroom to spend the night. And then snuck out of their early the next morning. Get back to New York to do the radio program. And during that time in the study after having returned from the Kennedy Center as in presidential limo. When I'm going to tell you, it's it's amazing to be in that limo when they shut down traffic, and there are no red lights, and there are cops and secret service all over the place, and you get where you're going with nobody to stop you. It was unique to be see how that actually feels when you're in the midst of it. It was it was during this period of time that President Bush said that he liked Tom Foley. Who was the time was the democrat speaker of the house? He was from Washington. He was a guy work with fully was a decent going. Okay. Guy. Foley was later seen to be stealing airline meals off of flights that he took after he had retired. Remember that Mr. Snerdley busted stealing airplane meals. Anyway. When the name George Mitchell came up, George Mitchell was the Senate majority leader Senator from Maine, President Bush told me the most partisan man in Washington, which surprised me and I've been doing the program for four years. And I know who George Bush was obviously, but George Mitchell, I then came to learn was typecast every Senate democrat majority leader, except maybe Chuck Schumer, Chuck, you may be breaking them all. But if you stop these people, they're all very soft spoken. And they never raise their voices or get mad and like, Tom Daschle. He followed George Mitchell and Daschle would appear with Tony snow on five bucks or over with Tim russert on NBC meet the press and every time that Tom Daschle was on TV was concerned. There are so concerned Tim about whatever the Republicans are proposing doing because it's such a violation of human and civil rights were very concerned, Tim these Republicans, you know, they just they don't love people. And it's really a problem. We're really really concerned him. And then Harry Reid comes along. And he's the same way. That guy spoke. So softly, you can you can never hear him half the time. But they were vicious vicious partisans. And that's what Bush told me about George Mitchell. He said don't be fooled. But he is the most partisan man in this town, the drive bys what have you believe that George H W Bush never saw people that way. Oh, no. He was true. Civil was too sophisticated. He was too dignified from an era gone. But don't kid yourself. He told me the reason parole was trying to sabotage his presidential rank gives the low down on a lot of things. But I want to play for you a sound bite from George Mitchell from just moments ago on Bloomberg television's balance of power, and you know, who hosts this show, the former president of ABC news, David Westin. And you got Mitchell on their cars and memories about George H W Bush in western says, what was it like working with President Bush? Listen to this. We had a very good working relationship. We've got a lot.

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"george mitchell" Discussed on 106.1 FM WTKK

106.1 FM WTKK

04:47 min | 1 year ago

"george mitchell" Discussed on 106.1 FM WTKK

"All four corners of the world as the saga continues. Grab audio sound bite number twenty five George Mitchell. I mentioned yesterday. That. And I I didn't I didn't tell the story in detail because I've told it so many times, but I'm I'm remembering things that I have not mentioned about Dell's back into it. But it was in June of nineteen Ninety-two that I had the opportunity to to have dinner with the President Mrs Bush, forty one at the White House and then went to the Kennedy Center with them. For the performance. I forget what the performance was. Then went back stage at the intermission to meet the cast. And then we split back to the White House where we went to the presidential study. And Chad at about the campaign for about an hour. Maybe even longer than that than it was to the Lincoln bedroom to spend the night. And then snuck out of their early the next morning. Get back to New York to do the radio program. And during that time in the study after having returned from the Kennedy Center as in presidential limo. When I'm gonna tell you, it's it's amazing to be in that limo when they shut down traffic, and there are no red lights, and there are cops and secret service all over the place, and you get where you're going with nobody to stop you. It was unique to be see how that actually feels when you're in the midst of it. It was it was during this time, the President Bush said that he liked Tom Foley. Who was the time was the democrat speaker of the house? He was from Washington Foley was a guy you could work. With Foley was a decent guys. Okay. Guy. Foley was later seemed to be stealing airline meals off of flights that he took after he had retired. You remember that Mr. Snerdley busted stealing airplane meals? Anyway. When the name George Mitchell came George Mitchell was the Senate majority leader Senator from Maine, President Bush told me is the most partisan man in Washington, which surprised me I've been doing the program for four years. And I knew who Georgia was obviously. But George Mitchell, I then came to learn was typecast every Senate democrat majority leader, except maybe Chuck Schumer, Chuck you may be breaking them all, but if you stop making these people, they're all very soft spoken, and they never raise their voices or get mad and like, Tom Daschle. He followed George Mitchell and Daschle would appear with Tony snow on FOX or over with Tim russert on NBC meet the press and every time that Tom Daschle was on TV was concerned. It was so concerned Tim about whatever the Republicans are proposing doing because it's such a violation of human and civil rights were very concerned, Tim these Republicans, you know, they just they don't love people. And it's really a problem. We're really really concerned him. And then Harry Reid comes along. And he's the same way. That guys spoke. So softly it. Can you can never hear him half the time? But they were vicious vicious partisans. And that's what Bush told me about George Mitchell. He said don't be fooled. But he is the most partisan man in this town are the drive bys would have you believe that George H W Bush never saw people that way. Oh, no. He was to civil was too sophisticated. He was too dignified from an era gone. But don't yourself. He told me the reason parole was trying to sabotage his presidential rank gave you give it a low down on a lot of things. But I want to play you a sound bite from George Mitchell from just moments ago on Bloomberg television's balance of power, and you know, who hosts the show, the former president of ABC news, David Westin. And you got Mitchell on there. Memoirs and memories about George H W Bush and western says, what was it like working with President Bush? Listen to this. We had a very good working relationship..

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"george mitchell" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

Newsradio 1200 WOAI

04:21 min | 1 year ago

"george mitchell" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

"A household name and all four corners of the world as the saga continues. Grab audio sound bite number twenty five George Mitchell. I mentioned yesterday. That. And I I didn't I didn't tell the story because I'm told it so many times, but I'm remembering things that I have not mentioned about I may delve back into it. But it was in June of nineteen Ninety-two that I have the opportunity to to have dinner with the President Mrs Bush, forty one at the White House and then went to the Kennedy Center with them. For the performance. I forget what the performance was. And went back stage at the intermission to meet the cast. And then we split back to the White House where we went to the presidential study and chatted about the campaign for about an hour. Maybe even longer than than it was to the Lincoln bedroom to spend the night and then snuck out of their early the next morning back to New York to the radio program. And during that time in the study after having returned from the Kennedy Center is in presidential limo. I'm gonna tell you it's it's amazing to be in that limo. When they shut down traffic, and there are no red lights, and there are cops and secret service all over the place, and you get where you're going with nobody to stop you. It was unique to be see how that actually feels when you're in the midst of it. It was it was during this time. The President Bush said that he liked Tom Foley, who at the time was a democrat speaker of the house. He was from Washington. He's not fully was the guy you could work with fully was a decent guys. Okay. Guy Foley was later seen to be stealing airline meals off of flights that he took after he had retired. You remember that Mr Lee busted stealing airplane meals? Anyway, when the name George Mitchell, George Mitchell was the Senate majority leader Senator from Maine, President Bush told me is the most partisan man in Washington, which surprised me I've been doing the program for four years. And I know George Bush was obviously, but George Mitchell, I then came to learn was typecast every Senate democrat majority leader, except maybe Chuck Schumer, Chuck you may be breaking them all, but if you stop making these people, they're all very soft spoken, and they never raise their voices or get mad and like, Tom Daschle. He followed George Mitchell and Daschle would appear with Tony snow on FOX or over with Tim russert on NBC meet the press and every time that Tom Daschle was on TV was concerned. There are so concerned Tim about whatever the Republicans are proposing doing because it's such a violation of human and civil rights were very concerned, Tim these Republicans, you know, they just they don't love people. And it's really a problem. We're really really concerned him. And then Harry Reid comes along. And he's the same way. That guy spoke. So softly it. Can you can never hear him half the time? But they were vicious vicious partisans. And that's what Bush told me about George Mitchell. He said don't be fooled. But he is the most partisan man in this town, the drive bys would have you believe that George H W Bush never saw people that way. No. He was true. Civil was to sophisticate. He was too dignified from an era gone. But don't kid yourself. He told me the reason parole was trying to sabotage his presidential rank gives a low down on a lot of things. But I want to play for you a sound bite from George Mitchell from just moments ago on Bloomberg television's balance of power, and you know, who hosts the show, the former president of ABC news, David Westin. And you got Mitchell on there. Wars and memories about George H W Bush and western says, what was it like working with President Bush? Listen to this. We had a very good working.

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