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"george bell" Discussed on ExtraTime

ExtraTime

05:13 min | 5 months ago

"george bell" Discussed on ExtraTime

"Half or so, maybe a little longer. They won those trophies. So that's what this year is about key signings, Andrew Gutman recalled from his loan. This is just good succession planning. This is what you want from MLS teams, right? Is that you have this incredible prospect that you bring through that you give time, George bell is a good player, breaks in the national team, play some big games. He's at the end of his contract, that's not ideal necessarily, but you still sell him to the Bundesliga, and you have Andrew Grumman waiting in reserve to slot right in, Ronald Hernandez. Is he back? They made it happen finally permanently, I think. I was all the Alonso, of course, rejoining Pineda from their days in Seattle. And then TBD Antigua mata or another DP, but it sounds like that is going to happen. What do you think Doyle they need in that third DP, whether it's Alma or otherwise? What would you look for if you were a landing that is? I mean, Alma needs to be the guy he's been billed as, right? He's supposed to be the best young number ten in all of Argentina, if not, all of the Americas. He's supposed to be a chance creator and a guy who was able to conduct an offense, conducting an attack. And this is all the same sort of stuff that we heard about Ezekiel barco when he was coming four years ago. And I haven't seen a ton of Al mata. He's super skilled. He is very good off the dribble. He reminds me of barcode. I don't, from what I've seen of him and the underlying numbers kind of agree with this. He does not seem like a natural string puller. He seems like a guy who gets on the ball and can do some wonderful things with it. But isn't genius level run of play chance creator. So they need my impression to be wrong. Because a lot of the issues with Atlanta over the past couple years is that whether it was Marcy Moreno or even aru show, but especially barco, sometimes when the ball gets on their foot, it dies. The whole movement dies because they just like to take too many touches..

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"george bell" Discussed on ESPN FC

ESPN FC

01:42 min | 10 months ago

"george bell" Discussed on ESPN FC

"Great assist on the weekend. Cutting up the dc defense and setting george bell. But it's all about ezekiel barco right now. I mean this guy is on fire on fire. Since returning from the olympic six goals five assists One of the best players. Mls right now for sure yeah What's the six goals spied goes on forest. It's like in the last eight games. it's ridiculous. how good he's been. And this is what seventeen million dollars for a teenager is supposed to look like for you guys out there. You general managers. You want to try something on a player. He's supposed to look like that. So barco six goals and five in his last nine all that. Since the return from the olympics the one thing that you mentioned about championship contenders. We were talking about the galaxy. Last week is defense actually has a pretty good defense. They've given up the same amount of goals as new england. They did ship a couple though against dc united over the weekend. That were to me like knows. We're gonna ask us. But i i think there's something to be said about the atlanta defense and maybe more importantly they gotta continue this run because right now. They're six they've got to get into for me that top four because their record away from homework is not very good. They've only won twice away from home so far this season. So if atlanta are gonna make a run they probably want to be in that top three or four if they can make it an absolutely right now. They're six in the eastern conference but they could definitely be in the top four No at whatever you can to avoid new england. If you're atlanta you just mentioned new england. Why don't we. Why don't we talk some new england that well. I suppose i suppose if we want to. We're not going to pick up the logo. Are we always think out. Just how this broke. Okay.

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"george bell" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

06:08 min | 1 year ago

"george bell" Discussed on KQED Radio

"This is fresh air. I'm Dave Davies in for Terry Gross. We're listening to Terry's interview with MSNBC host Rachel Maddow and journalist Mike Yaar Bits about their podcast bag Man, which detailed the criminal investigation that forced Richard Nixon's vice president, Spiro Agnew, to resign in 1973. Federal investigators found evidence that Agnew was involved with bribery and extortion while he was Baltimore County executive and governor of Maryland and that he continued to collect bribe money while he was vice president. Once the Agnew investigation came to light, there were persistent efforts from the White House to shut it down. Mato and your bits of collaborated on a new book based on their reporting for the podcast with some new material about the case. It's called Bag Man. The wild crimes audacious cover up and spectacular downfall of a brazen crook in the White House. So you found something like that? The prosecutors Didn't even know at the time. And that this was there was a secret plan that Agnew had to shut down the investigation. Would you describe That secret plan. Yeah, You know, it's an interesting part of us. Digging into this story was Looking through the Nixon White House recordings. And obviously, those recordings have been very picked over as it relates to Watergate, but not as picked over as it relates to the Agnew scandal and what we found as we were sort of listening. Through the recordings was this effort that Spiro Agnew developed behind the scenes with Richard Nixon and with H. R. Haldeman and the other White House officials? To try to shut down this investigation that was being led by the U. S attorney in Maryland Man named George Bell and the way that Agnew trying to do it was by getting to George Belle's brother. Who was a sitting Republican senator from Maryland named Glen Bell. And what you hear in these tapes? Is this really elaborate plan that Spear Agnew's discussing in the Oval Office with Richard Nixon and others to basically get to this Republican senator behind the scenes and have him essentially get word to his brother to shut down this investigation? And as you mentioned this was a an obstruction effort that the prosecutors at the time didn't know about. And one of the surprising and amazing things to us as we were putting together. This podcast was That even 45 years later, they weren't aware of it. And so their reaction now to hearing about this effort to obstruct an end their investigation. It was a revelatory moment in putting together this podcast, which is That they were completely unaware. And the reason that they weren't is because ultimately, the obstruction effort didn't work. And George Bell, their boss, the U. S attorney was getting that pressure from his brother. And he shut it down. He didn't let it get to his federal prosecutors were working on the case. He shut down and the attempt to shut down the investigation. That's right. That's right. He resisted that pressure that was coming at him from the Nixon White House and from his brother. Get in case anybody's finding the story hard to follow. So George Bell is the federal prosecutor in Maryland overseeing the investigation into ad knew his brother is a Republican sitting senator from Maryland who's getting pressure from the White House. So the senator's being pressured. To tell his brother, the prosecutor, shut it down. Any other nice dynamic at work there is that George Bells older brother, the U. S senator He really owed his Senate seat to Nixon and Agnew, Nixon and Agnew had weighed in very heavily during his election campaign. Help him win that seat. George and Glenn the brothers. Their father had previously held that U S Senate seat He had been ousted by a Democrat. Nixon and Agnew in the White House weighed in to help the Bell family to help George Bells. Older brother win that seat back that their father had previously held. The Bell family was absolutely indebted to the Nixon White House toe Agnew personally because he campaigned for that Senate seat as a big figure in Maryland politics for them to win it. And so for them little brother George Bell to turn around and bring a prosecution against Agnew when his family was so politically and personally indebted to Agnew, and when Agnew was reminding them of that at every turn Bringing all of these different Republican gray beards and important people to weigh in to try to pressure this investigation to stop. George Bell was heroic figure here in the way that he resisted the pressure that was brought against him. So once prosecutors understood Agnes involvement. In this bribery and extortion scandal. We had a president under criminal investigation Richard Nixon, Watergate and now vice president under a completely separate criminal investigation, But what was the unique set of problems that this presented for prosecutors? Um prosecutors at the time. I think we're already what prosecutors writ large. I think the Justice Department. The attorney General, Elliot Richardson, at the time was already faced with the enormity of the prospect that the Watergate investigation would lead to The end of the Nixon presidency, whether he was somehow prosecuted whether he resigned whether the pressures of the Watergate investigation were somehow going to end his presidency one way or another. That was already such a almost, you know, sort of politically apocalyptic scenario that they were facing. They were blindsided when they were confronted. By the evidence that Agnew was also existentially challenged as a senior figure in the federal government because of his own totally unrelated. Scandal and the prospect that you would Lose Nixon somehow that Nixon would have to leave the presidency..

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"george bell" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

02:48 min | 2 years ago

"george bell" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

"Without Mitch Williams so you know it's it's it's hard to make a case for that one being a good one but if you love the eighteen nineties and you got to know that that season doesn't happen without Mitch Williams he was a good general manager it wasn't a great general manager like everyone else who's ever worked for Tribune company he never really got the chance to finish the job because nineteen ninety was a disappointment after the ninety season they signed George bell and Dave Smith and Danny Jackson all three of them were hurt early in the ninety one season and then there's of course the famous firing of don Zimmer which really brought down the organization at the end of the season as a downgrade asco was fired him fry was fired Jim Messina was fired and that was that was the end of that but I can tell you from personal experience working with those guys working with guys like Jim fry in down simmer was was the best part of my career they were old school guys they were they were honorable guys respectful guys they weren't always the most polite guys but you know what you did what you knew where you stood with them they didn't lie to you they answered the phone when you need something and it it you know if you had a great story even if they couldn't comment on it at least they could lead you in the right direction you're either right or wrong and they were a pleasure to work with so that was a very enjoyable time for me in terms of my career but I guess if you summed up Jim fries career is the general manager at least they made the playoffs one year and there are a lot of cubs general managers you can say that the pieces in total gym fries cubs legacy looms large from the daily Herald very roster wrote that piece good deal they look at all dot com and check that out I'm glad you spent some time thanks so much for coming on the show to talk about the the legacy will forever it whatever it was it was a fun legacy for gym Friday eighty four and eighty nine Johnson my pleasure anytime now it is a very roster with us here on under the hood what Jonathan this is under the hood Jonathan who ESPN one Carlos hold for supporters that's a tough road to get to the line and every time you to do list to do one last thing corona get to slime every time you press pause every time you wind or lose track of time corona gets its line and every time the feeder up by the sun goes down the corona get to drop a line and find your beach please drink responsibly corona extra beer importer by crown imports.

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"george bell" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

Newsradio 700 WLW

02:30 min | 3 years ago

"george bell" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

"Here by the way speaking of Twitter and barley corn presents a Twitter feed and thank you for following if you do if you don't you're welcome to Atlanta McAllister I happen to notice over the weekend and I'm gonna be kinda dorky here for a second I know well aren't you dorky most the time went up I happen to look at the list of those who for the verified people who follow me on Twitter only follows me I thought well that's pretty cool and there's some raids in there some bangles in there some coaches who follow me great and I'm scrolling scrolls were looking and Jesse Barfield follows me on Twitter now I loved baseball in the eighties and I played a bore baseball game called apple baseball APBA Jesse Barfield play for the blue jays in the eighties big power guy cannon for an arm to almost two hundred fifty career home runs and he follows me on Twitter and I have no idea why but I'd be about that ever since Jesse don't shake your head Terry Jesse Barfield of the Toronto Blue Jays in the eighties played the outfield with Lloyd Moseby and George bell and guys like that he five no idea why I've never met him I don't think I've ever interviewed Jesse Barfield I just know that the former blue Jay great and maybe I should just asking because I can't figure out why the hell we follow me but Jesse Barfield is following on Twitter art I think about a time out that's right I'm not gonna press my luck he may realize like why I didn't do that on purpose I I mistakenly hit follow I did me to follow unfollow no Jesse to moral ridge go for the sweep of the mini series they send ebony disco party to the mound the angels will it at this point the listed starter is Jose swaras electing now is Marty said I don't know if he's the traditional who's going to go after the opener or if they're going without the opener tomorrow night and based on how the opener went tonight they may not want to do that tomorrow night but it's disco verses at some point Jose swore as a tomorrow night again your final seven for the raid says score five in the first place he for Luis Castillo who pitched seven innings of dominant baseball I'll join you hopefully at six oh five tomorrow and we'll set up Reds and the angels game to the ATM is next after a check on news thanks for being a part of the Kelsey Chevrolet extruding show on the home of the Reds newsradio seven hundred WLW.

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"george bell" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

06:09 min | 3 years ago

"george bell" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

"San Francisco joins Chris black, and Fred Hubner in for cap today, here on ESPN one thousand and ESPN Johnson's, you mentioned his name. I'm going to ask a follow up on it because Jordan bell is kind of a hot button topic here in Chicago because the bulls are the ones crafted him and then sold them to the warriors for cash considerations. A lot of both fans still bringing this up to this day and even last night when I saw the bell was in the starting lineup. Both fan started tweeting like cash considerations is in the starting lineup for bulls fans here in Chicago, who may have not maybe they haven't paid attention to the warriors as much this season. Can you kind of give a bio on how this season has gone for Jordan Belen and what he's done for the warriors this year? I know it's been a bit disappointing for the warriors. Yeah. He's been viewed as a disappointment this year. But the funny thing about your bell. What's he whether it's in practice? Or whether it's been different points in games this season. There's just times we're Steve Kerr and the coaching staff lacks confidence. He's a flash player. He'll he'll make a flash play almost every time he's in the game but he will also do two or three things that I think the common fan goes on notice to the common fan. Just absolutely drives the coaching staff crazy. And it leads to these long stretches were he doesn't play. I mean he hardly played for about two two and a half months going back up until they needed him to play at the end of the rockets series because Durant was out, and they needed him to play because Durant was out of the Portland series. He actually when given opportunity when Kerr throws him out there almost as a test to give him an opportunity to earn more minutes, he's for the most part that awful. But when curse thrown. Out there in an emergency because he has no choice. And, and you're thinking, wow. He can't possibly go to George bell. And then he does in those situations, you actually plays pretty well, and he did last year in the finals, he did last year in the conference finals against the rockets. You did you know this year in those two previous series that I mentioned I, I just think it's a bad matchup for him in this series going up against a solid, especially at the start of the game. Because Casale so smart. So skilled and, and he's content, I think in in his lot now as a as a role player. And and you know last night, I'm Jordan bells out there, because of his athleticism. And sometimes he falls asleep. You know on his rotations, he doesn't get out. He doesn't hustle all the time. So he just kind of an inconsistent player at a player that I think, at times, there's a belief that, you know, he thinks he's a little bit better than he is he thinks he belongs, maybe a little more than he should for a guy in his second year in the NBA Jonah last one for you. With oracle having only a couple more games left in it for the warriors, before they moved to San Francisco. If somehow the raptors take both games in Toronto, and they're up to own the series is there added pressure that, that you might feel or see in the building knowing that there's only a couple more games left at oracle for this warriors team. Yeah. I think if the warriors go down to game three will be very tight in that building next day. I, I really do. I mean, I this is a type of pressure that I don't think anybody seen. And, you know, the, the crowd has changed over the last couple of years. I mean it's gone from just raucous and the crowd inspiring the team. More to the team needing to inspire the crowd to really get in the game. So coming into that, that game down to, I think it would be pensive type atmosphere until the warriors, give them something that you're about aside for maybe the first five six minutes every building is outstanding I five six minutes of a big game. When you feel like you're team dinner is into it, but if the away team could withstand that and play the game on on a level playing field. I think a lot of times crowds just kinda Peter out and it and it turns into a normal game, unless the home team gives them something that could cheer about. So I think that's been the one chain. And oracle, I'll say this, though, if the warriors windy and have a chance at that point with homecourt advantage to, to win say, three four and six and closed down oracle by winning a championship in a game six, I think it, it may reach the levels of, of we believe, era, two thousand seven when they upset the Mavericks, or the levels of two thousand fifteen to two thousand sixteen when they won that first championship in, in forty years, and, and then had the seventy three nine season because those three years in particular, unlike anything, I've, I've ever seen in professional sports, as far as just electric city and oracle can have an edge to it. Did I think you know, the crowds can have joy or an edge? And when Oracle's really rocking, there's an edge to, to oracle that they can be a little bit intimidating. I think on opponent. So I think that will be there in full effect if the warriors win game two, if not, I think it might be a little bit more of a pen. Crowd. John, thank you. We appreciate it. They thought for having me John Dickinson from ninety five seven the game in San Francisco. You can follow him on Twitter at JD John Dickinson. I thought he brought up a great point too. I have an asked him about cousins when he said that he thinks cousins will play more than it makes sense, which Orden Belle playing just eleven minutes and getting two points put cousins out there to start the game and play four or five minutes, the start each quarter and then get him out, and maybe it can it can be a little thing that, you know, they slow Toronto down at the beginning of each of those quarters. There you go. Both fans Jordan. Bell, cash considerations. He's not very good though. That's why he doesn't play much. And that's why you know, like the joke is funny on social media. Right. But like the reason Kirk can't play him is because they can't trust him because he doesn't play defense. He's just kind of out there. And what did we talk about earlier? We talked about how he's made himself about a better player in the artwork. He has. And John just mentioned that Jordan bell, actually maybe take for granted. He should be, you know, much better than you much better than the isn't. He maybe doesn't work at it. That's Fred Hubner, I'm.

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"george bell" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

NewsRadio KFBK

02:23 min | 3 years ago

"george bell" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

"A doubt the best. So he's done all week, Pat walls on NewsRadio K F B K. I'm going to jump right back into this. I need enough time to talk about this. Also, thanks for being there. I mean, just say this talking about sexual deviance kind about Jerry, Sandusky, and Robert Kraft and R Kelly and now George bell, Mattel, you what I'm a I'm trying to be genuine and honest with you I along with many others are extremely proud Catholics. I'm electorate in my church. I read it church. I read God's word. Okay. So I believe that for a minute here. I can speak for many Catholics. Maybe not everyone. We all have different opinion, whatever, but I can tell you this watch. Cardinal George Pell. Vatican treasurer found guilty of child sexual assault. Once the most third once third most powerful man in the Vatican Australia's most senior Catholic been found guilty of child sexual abuse after a trial by jury delivered the unanimous verdict on eleven December eleven in Melbourne's a county. But the result was subject to suppression order, blah, blah, blah. Okay. Pope Francis who had previously praised golfers honesty response to the sexual child abuse as yet to publicly react, but he will just two days after the unreported verdict in December because again, upheld conviction likely imprisonment will cause shockwaves through a global Catholic congregation as a blow to Francis efforts to get a grip on sexual abuse. Okay. Ms speak right now for myself. I say I'm speak for other Catholics believe this bomber speak for myself. So I think I can do a proud Catholic. This guy right here. George pell. I don't care was a cardinal. The treasurer at the Vatican. I don't care. You're a piece of filth, and I can assure you, my friends that every Catholic I know is absolutely appalled by any single case of sexual abuse. It's awful. That's how we feel..

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"george bell" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio

C-SPAN Radio

06:15 min | 3 years ago

"george bell" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio

"Where was the grand jury meeting it met in a room in a federal courthouse in Baltimore. Yes. And who went before that did you all we in grand? Juries are are lead. Barb are organized by prosecutors. We would bring witnesses into the grand jury room and have them take the oath and testify in front of the grand jury, and we would be the ones asking them questions. We would be the ones deciding what witnesses to bring in and how to present the evidence. How many times did you bring somebody in front of the grand jury that related to vice President Reagan? Multiple times who were the others besides Lester Matt's. Well, there was another. There was a bag man named but hammer men who at the time was very successful wealthy businessman who was Agnes principal bag, man. There was a guiding green now in green Alan green on a second bag, man. And there were others who had paid and Jerry Wolf, Jerry Wolf. Another consulting engineer. He was also chairman of the state roads commission in which capacity acted as Agnes bagman. Keeping fifty percent of the bribes on state roads contracts for himself and passing on fifty percent of the bribes tag, new part of the reason to talk about this is what's going on in Washington right now grand juries, and lawyers and people testifying against people in office and all that going back to that time period. Did it ever leak out the kind of people that were coming in front of your grand jury? The press was Richard Cohen. I remember in particular, but other members of the question post. Yes, Washington were very good and very clever at figuring out who are witnesses must be. And then getting them to talk to the to to the press. They're very clever about how they do that. It's not dishonest or devious or anything, but they get witnesses to say much more than the witness or even realized they're saying, I know some point I think we had reporters assigned to each of us. There was a New York Times reporter whose name was south poops ages sow Pook is I think was his name who I lived my wife, and I lived not more than three blocks from the federal courthouse in downtown Baltimore. And I would get to my apartment and foam it ring, and it would be this New York Times reporter that would say are your home now. So there was a lot of press scrutiny and also the concern. So that we had is Tim articulated a few moments ago actually occurred. They took after us Agnes lawyers went after us as a group and individually, and they were alleging that we were leaking information to the press, which was untrue. So it was it was a. A timespan that was really very tight. It was a matter of months from beginning to end. But it was intense. We've found this video it's a man named Martin London who was a democrat then but was approached to represent vice president Agnew. This is an interview from two thousand seventeen not that long ago with a man named Jim Zahren at CUNY TV up in New York. What's watch this partner? Jay topic is called me up. And he said Marty I've just had a fascinating telephone call. What's that he says well, somebody called me up and he said, Mr. top disco. You come to Washington to meet a new client. We'd like you represent and he's very important person. And the topic is says, oh, congressman and the guy says higher. I can't mention his name. He says a Senator he says higher says, oh my God cabinet member. He says higher. He said, oh my God. You mean the president in the guy's not quite so high. So we re I said to Jay Jay said Marty is there any reason we shouldn't represent the vice president of the United States who was facing a bribery charge. And I said are we going to get paid for this? He said, yeah, I said, then there's no reason we shouldn't represent do you know that man timber. No, did you know any of vice president and his lawyers not at the time. And I never around him. When it got close to the coughing play. I had dealings with them later on a couple of years later on and completely different matters when I was in private practice, but I didn't know them at all during the Agnew matter. And you were going through this. Did you keep notes about this experience? I didn't keep a diary. I did make notes Lord knows where they are probably in my attic somewhere. I think you know. Where were you aware of the significance of what was going on shore? But at the same time, we were working day and night. There wasn't that much time. Speaking for myself to sort of sit back and reflect on this. It was very intense. And you know, we I must say this. We get a great job. We nailed that guy. We put an airtight case together. And that's a lot of work us the IRS agents who who worked for us. And of course, George bell who supervised us. Here's some more of George bell. And that speech in two thousand three. His response was this is awful. But. The United States attorney from acid -chusetts many years ago, and he said I had a similar situation involving highway contractors and pavers Massachusetts. He said this was the late nineteen fifties. They said he would he asked for permission? The incoming administration to stay on as United States attorney to pursue that investigation in. This permission was denied by the Kennedy administration, and he had to leave his job and the incoming United States. Attorney didn't didn't pursue that particular investigation. So the United States the attorney general Mr. Richardson's response right away. Was this is something that is deplorable regrettable intolerable as far as government is concerned. And.

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"george bell" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio

C-SPAN Radio

13:30 min | 3 years ago

"george bell" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio

"Attorney's office in summer of nineteen seventy one I was immediately assigned to Barney, and we immediately began to prepare for dry, and the case that Ron was talking about we tried the guy was in effect the county executive for another Maryland county Prince George's county. In two thousand and three your boss at the time who was thirty five at the time, George bell to nine hundred seventy two thousand three when he gave his speech, right? And he kind of summarized what you all went through. Let's why George valid deceased. Now. You can talk about him in a minute. But let's watch what some of what he had to say in front of the Frostburg university where he talked about this case says Mr. Matt's Cooper came in and told us his story. I was I I was absolutely stunned, of course, because. I like everyone else. I think in the in the country thought that the vice president was the pillar rectitude. He was a very tall. Imposing handsome well-spoken strong individual who spoke not just eloquently, but passionately about principles and morality, and that sort of thing and sounded very persuasive. I was absolutely flabbergasted by Mr. Matt's told us that there was another side to the vice President, George bell. What how did you all interact interact? As Tim mentioned a moment ago. George bell was the consummate United States attorney. He was hands down the best boss. I ever had. He was a gentleman. He was smart. He took his job. Very seriously was from very prominent Republican family. His father had been a Senator his brother at the time was a Senator from Maryland. He was terrific just terrific. What all the way through what I would say about Georgia's of his many, remarkable qualities was a complete lack of vanity. He had tried deservedly had pride. But no vanity, and frankly, he was dealing with three assistants who had very high opinions of themselves and very high opinions of their opinions, and we're very forceful and articulating them, and George was never bothered about that he was perfectly fine to let us have our say and often went with what we thought we ought to be doing. And as Ron said, he he was he was an excellent US attorney almost a paradigm example of how a US attorney ought to handle himself Lester Matt's he talked about. Who was he what impact did he have on this whole case, but less dramatic was a. Consulting engineer who had a firm that did a lot of public work. And in Maryland at the time, there was a system a system of graft if you were qualified, and you could do good work, and you wanted your fair share of the work you have to pay for it. And Lester Matt's was one of the people who paid Spiro Agnew directly. As I recall, it someone had explained to Agnew, and we heard this third hand early on in his political career that you should have a bag man, you shouldn't take directly don't take money illicit money directly from anyone who wants to do business with the government entity have a bag man that way, you can insulate yourself, and you have deniability and indeed Spiro Agnew had a bagman. In fact, he had to bagman. But he was also. He was careless. If someone approached him with enough money to take directly he took directly to and less. Dramatic was one of those. Let's go back to George bell more from his speech talking about this situation. Mr. Matt's was the one who said that beginning in nineteen sixty two he had been paying Mr. Agnew on a regular basis. From the time is rag new was the Baltimore County executive right through the time. He was governor and conclusively right up until January nineteen sixty nine when he visited vice president in the White House and the vice president's office, and he said, he handed the vice president white envelope with ten thousand dollars in cash in it and said, you know, this is this is money. I owe you from contracts that you gave us while you were governor of Maryland. I want my head are bookkeeper run the accounts, and now fully paid up, and I hope that going forward. We'll have more federal work. And the vice president. Slid backing pulled up the drawer in his desk and kept at the envelope. But it in in this desk, and they talked about. Sports. Tim baker. How did you work on this project together the group review? Well, we all had somewhat different responsibilities. Barney was the leader of the team by far the most experienced prosecutor, and I would have to say also the best I think he was one of the very best in the country. So he was the leader. I was sort of the chief of staff, I was the guy who kept everything organized the IRS agents. The grand jury the witnesses and also played a role is so in a way sort of the general counsel for the team and Ron was. Had had had defense lawyer experience. And so we counted on him to constantly look at the evidence, we were gathering from potential defendants point of view and keep us alert to the minefield that we would be working in. Where was your office physically located? And when was the first crack in this case, we were US attorney's office was located in the federal courthouse in Baltimore, the old federal courthouses more recent one in existence now, and I remember exactly precisely when I first. Heard anything about Agnew being involved. And really it involves Tim Baker. I was in Barney Skolnik's office Tim had been on the phone in his own office. I guess with. I think it was less dramatic is lawyer Lester matches lawyer was a very able very decent fellow very able lawyer, and he had known for some time that through his client through a privileged communication that his client had bribed the vice president of the United States. And I think it was eating this lawyer alive. Timid had a conversation with this lawyer. I may not have this exactly precisely correct. But this lawyer said something to Tim along the lines of, you know, you don't even want to know, you wouldn't want to know what there is out there something that my very smart colleague and friend quickly. Determined was a reference to Agnew. And I remember Tim coming into Barney's office telling us about that call and Barney, and I changing look saying, nah, that's that's that's too wild. Tim was absolutely right on C span radio. This is Q and day with former federal prosecutors, Ron Liebman and Tim Baker before you expound more on that. What was the atmosphere in the country at that time in Washington DC when all this was going on Watergate was front page news and the Washington Post and the New York Times and other newspapers around every day. And the the circle was tightening around president Nixon. It's still had a long way to go. But special prosecutor Archibald Cox was his team was was rigorously investigating the Watergate matter, and there was a great deal of tension in Washington around was Nixon gonna end up being impeached. What was what was he was he guilt? The cover up the at least in the spring of nineteen seventy-two that kind of. Actually that hadn't even started in the spring because what our gate doesn't start until July of seventy two. I'm thinking ahead. Eight seventy three. So okay. He resigned on October the tenth nineteen Seventy-three. So what was the date that you I found out? And what was your reaction was in may of nineteen Seventy-three when defense lawyer for Matt's says to me, we're trying to get matched to cooperate against Dale Anderson who he did pay off Anderson Anderson was diagnosed successor is county executive in Baltimore County. And the lawyer says to me, well, how much do you want to know? How are you really willing to do anything with what else Lester mask and tell you? And I said, yes, we we can we are very interested in it. And then I went in and told Barney, and Ron we knew what it had to be. In fact, I think we were already very suspicious of Agnew ever since Agnew tried to get Kleindienst shut the investigation down in January. At least I was who was climbing. He was the attorney general before Elliot Richardson and. In japan. We began our investigation in January nineteen seventy two and at the time Agnew was on a highly publicized tour the far east. But as soon as he came back to Washington mats and others running doing saying you've got to stop this investigation and Agnew. Immediately. Went to pay the personal visit declined eats at the department of Justice and said he had to stop this investigation. It was a political witch hunt. He complained bitterly about it and Klein beans, call George bell and said, George what's going on here in Georgia was surprised because we weren't investigating Agnew. We were investigating a democrat who was the county executive in Baltimore County. Okay. The team the three of you. And then George bell the boss. Did you ever sit around the office in those early days and say, what are we going to do this? No. I mean, we we we took our jobs seriously young young guys that we were young lawyers that we were we were we were following the money. We were following the case we were building a case if it ended with with fail Anderson it ended with Dale Anderson. If it went on to other public officials and higher office we were going to pursue that and did in that time period. Nineteen Seventy-three did anybody in the public other than you folks up close and the lawyers know about Spiro Agnew being involved in taking money, not until they in early August of nineteen Seventy-three reporter for the Wall Street Journal broke the story, and I can't think of his Jerry Landau. Absolutely. And where he got it. And didn't get it from us. I'm guessing he got it from with witnesses of ours. Who there were reporters all over our investigation at that point. But nobody was getting any information about Agnew until Jerry Landauer came up with what did you all want to do next then in that process move, even faster because we knew that, okay? This is the the press scrutiny now was going to become intense. And it was gonna make our in our investigation much more difficult because we were going to be constantly distracted by all kinds of accusations against us and all kinds of attention. But we had most of the evidence in hand at that point. I suppose the only thing we still didn't have was our I r s net worth investigation which in which we would prove we had witnesses who said they paid Agnew. What the IRS investigation would show was that Agnew spent a substantial sums in hundred dollar bills. That is we show the money going in the network investigation would show at coming out. Let me go back to. Just make this point. How many times do you think over a period of a number of years Spiro Agnew? President is states prior to that governor of Maryland prior to that executive in Baltimore County took cash money in hand multiple times. He and. Others like him, including Marvin Mandel, whom we also went on prosecuting governor of Maryland, governor of own didn't create the system they inherited. It was there. And that's the way they functioned I think Agnew took bribes from from his. Baltimore County days all the way through to that episode that George bell just spoke about where he has a an envelope stuffed with ten thousand dollars in cash that he hands over to the vice president of the United States whose office at the time was in the White House. Is you all sat there in Baltimore. You had a grand jury..

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"george bell" Discussed on ExtraTime

ExtraTime

03:13 min | 3 years ago

"george bell" Discussed on ExtraTime

"Then George bell probably won't be your guy. If you say, I want both my fullback, Saddam forward and attack is the key for them. And we have a great defensive midfielder or two and two centrebacks that can cover for them. Then George Bello might be your guy where you say, I just need athleticism. I need attacking intent. Push. I don't think bellows that ethnic. He's not like a track star. I think he's more like he's he's just a smart player. He's not just speed. He's off the charts athlete like when you see terms of balance chill and size and strength and all of that. So I'm thinking about twenty twenty two and more about the Gold Cup. I'm thinking about the next six months with this. Because what Barack let's do this. Let's do this the guys of the Gold Cup. Okay. Because twenty twenty it was just so far away. It's like, you're you're speculating it that wryness to where these guys will go on what they'll do there's a little bit less speculation here. So let's stick to I would say Tim ream because he's Tim ream is not really centreback, and he's proved it repeatedly for the US national team, and he's not really quite a fullback. But he's really good in a back three. This is essentially left-center Mak in a back three. If you're going to have either Lima or or Adams as the right fullback slash central midfielder. Then I think you probably play Tim ream as the left center back because you don't need overlapping, you need a guy who could pass the hell out of the ball and defend a little bit. And that's what remiss I think Jonathan Brooks centreback still despite some of the nervousness about him at times of the US is still pretty solidly. I would guess number one. What the wait and see Greg does. Once he gets in this position to play them between Aaron long who captained this team against Panama and walkers Zimmerman who made the most out of this particular opportunity now, it says something about long that he got the captaincy after this long camp with the names that were in there with the fact that he hasn't really been at the US a lot in the past with the fact that you really just emerged in the last two and a half three years or so who did more for themselves in this camp in this game. Obviously have another opportunity both basically twenty six Zimmerman clearly dead. But the way the team was set up was for him to do that the way they seem was set up was for him to fill in that space to move forward to be on the ball to break lines with his passing where for long and on the left side of the field. It was more to just maintain possession brake pressure when it came. But otherwise to find Bradley's feet to find Zimmerman's feet to push which he did. Well, and as you said was given a level of trust from Gregg Berhalter, neither of them had a bad game. Neither of them. I. Made a mistake which. Ramin had one mistake. I think midway through the second half where he he tried to play again through the lines two feet. And he really telegraph to him. Yeah. But that was his only mistake of the game. And he was he was pushing the tempo. I thought Zimmerman I thought Zimmerman made the stronger case, but that was because he went out there and played a really active role whereas long's role in the team because of the team that we were facing and because of just the structure of the formation was a little bit more passive Gold Cup. Maybe it's too right now they're both on the team. Yeah. So is didn't call back from another lonestar in England..

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"george bell" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

09:14 min | 3 years ago

"george bell" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

"We're hopeful, but we're going to take our time with both of them and just because we're injured other places. Now, doesn't doesn't speed up their timetable at all? When when they feel good enough to go in there cleared from our doctors, they'll get back out. There naked sure use them a twenty two point game back to Staples with John barriers marquess sheriff. I Jim thanks a lot one ten eighty eight in favor of the warriors with that nine twenty one to go flair Thompson forty four points came out late in the third quarter hit his first first-hand threes an NBA record fifth time in his career. He's had at least ten threes at an NBA record fourteen earlier this year, boogie cousins outstanding passer hits the cutting direct go who scores, and is fouled you pointed out. That's another part of his game. That's underrated is his pants. I mean, I was talking to Bob Myers here tonight before the ball game going over all the centers that they've had the past few seasons. Like boogie cousins is like a combination of all those guys know a little bit of Bogue with a little bit of Pachulia a little bit of loony. He's got all the pieces that those guys had that help this team. But it's in one guy free. Throws goodbye. Direct three point play one thirteen eighty eight built stay Stevenson crossover. Move up and under layup, no rebounded by peasants gets good run. Here is passed to McKinney had half court goes. By McKinney and Atta bounds bad connection there in a turnover for Golden State cousins, nineteen minutes so far tonight, eight points, eight four five assists onto seventy really that. They don't need to do much more than when you get hot or Katie hotter. Klay off the pilot rookie dribbles under the basket hits. The Cutty Caruso gets his first two points. Alex Caruso stuff from the G Lee. Two way contract guy for the second straight year. Of course, a lack of guards with Lonzo ball and Rajon Rondo out. Got the call up today. Eight and a half to go Quinn cook and three from on high miss long rebound in McKinney. Chases down for the warriors. Eight twenty to go inside to Livingston beautiful pass tod cook who beat Stevenson. Benevolent. Thirty points per game into seven game win streak. Stevenson draws a foul on his lap attempt. No good. He'll go to the line. What fifteen points away should giving up one twelve winning by an average of eighteen over eighteen points per game in a seven-game stretch. I don't care who you're playing that's dominant basketball, and that's DeMarcus cousins play one of those games. So. Don't be surprised to see this team. Washington Boston Saturday that we will have. Off over the past few seasons. I'm really looking forward to right at Saturday. The twenty six pre game coverage feet o'clock right here. NBA all star weekend, ESPN radio and ESPN. Look at Jp given us the we got blowouts Ramaz. Well, read. Almost. It's gonna be fun. Boston playing great. And you know, what I love is Kyrie Irving who came out in the media talking about what his teams asked to do this. And that he's been the one that's responded. The most big game today and their blow out of Miami sitting fifth in the east. Here's cousin spinning down the posted traffic flips it up nearly went so wild check out the offensive rebound against Wagner passes opposite side Livingston shot. No offensive rebound foul against the Lakers underneath cousins had his headband knocked away. What's do happy? Then slammed the ball into the court the effort. Wait effort my cousin who has ten rebounds. Now. Right now, there's maybe not the lift accustomed to getting and maybe a little bit of fatigue. So these moves around the basket more broad jumping than getting up in the air and being able to finish. I think that's gonna change as he just continues to do this a couple more weeks. Applying is going to be scary this warrior team on the offense. Steve Kerr was telling us this morning at practice over at UCLA that the achilles was fine. It was just became the muscles and play games shavings. A little bit sword. Here's cousins and nineteen footer missed off the inbound rebound Stevenson full court pass outlet over the outstretched arms off the fingertips. Japan McGee out of bounds. Or sometimes read body, language and plane. Stevenson who pretty good fourth quarter and overtime in Houston. Strumming the guitar not the night cook for three tip. No, good rebound by McGee. Did he wants to be a little more larger role? Laker. The Russo vice reverse won't count after the whistle. Two free. Throws coming. 709 left on the clock is the warriors won fifteen the Lakers ninety as we mentioned they will meet for the third time in their four game season series coming up February second in a couple of weeks. It'll be. The oracle in Oakland and javale McGee. If he's healthy and will play would pick up his championship ring as he was unable to be in Las Golden State on Christmas day about those. Remember, we saw other ones that flip over with the top of the rink lists like reversible rings, never seen anything like the whole lot aside colored and the other side you straight nine. Pretty remarkable. Nobody wears those things seriously like very few guys wear maybe down the line, dad wanting seventy five right? And it's it looks like a normal size like high school ring. Right. Where Hollywood like these rings right now are so God, right? You wanna put it in the safe deposit box. Just they're worth so much. So happy goodness. Gracious one fifteen ninety one Golden State cook little hop back. Deep detour on the baseline pops on the weak side. Mckinney puts it in seventeen ninety one Golden State. Stevenson into the forecourt. Lobs it for makes the catch at the company drops it through for two. Dealt with pneumonia was in the hospital for a few games around Christmas as the ball is tipped out of bounds. Golden State will keep it on the side. We got. Coming into the game be rookie from Germany. Luke, Walton going deep into his. Bench of players on a night. And his team is getting it handed to him here at Staples Center. Bond Caruso, both on the floor played a lot in the G league. And Caruso off his leg. Kick ball out of bounds. It'll stay with Golden State with six thirty to go. And will you take out of this game? If you're Luke Walton and Lakers, I think you burn the tape. I yeah, I think there's absolutely nothing that doesn't take out of this that when you did what you did to the warriors on Christmas day. You just wonder like. Got to be a mental thing. Isn't it? George bell missing a shout bell gets nearly legs. They're gonna play Minnesota Thursday. And they're hoping to have Rondo back. Maybe LeBron will see here's Dr foul shot up. No good. Couple of free throws. But six seventeen to go has a lot to deal with it. No, Lonzo ball on Rondo, obviously know, LeBron James. So they're going to have to find a way Rondo came come back in the next. Do a better job on the offensive in number. They were forthright of Christmas day of the Western Conference standings, fourth and fifth abroad goes down. They lose five of their first six of us in the first two. And with a the shooter won the game in Houston. The twenty one point lead. They were up big with about a minute twelve to go there. West as Baga misses two free throws. They're gonna lose here tonight. So they're gonna fall full game back the flippers for that eight seed still with just under a half season to go abroad watching on the Laker bench hoping to get back into soon as he can missing the most time he's had his career. Here's bell knocked away. By Caruso, loose ball. Save nicely by ballot. A floater might have been deflected jailed Mckee has it down court provocative one onto the turbine rookie, and he lays it in two German rookies on the floor for the Lakers right now Bonga and Wagner Wagner stores. Nice stroke three point line. Watch him more up last couple nice. These guys got a nice future. Not a big ice here. In LA, though. They're not gonna be around much longer kiddie missing badly on a three pointer with five twenty five to go one seventeen ninety five Golden State broke it open the third. Banga outside my Tilahun parade. From Ukraine Faulkner and Bunga from Germany with Caruso and McGee is truly a global game. And a time out called by Golden State after that basket, it is the warriors won seventeen the Lakers ninety eight five fourteen to go in Los Angeles..

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"george bell" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

06:45 min | 3 years ago

"george bell" Discussed on KQED Radio

"And he basically gives them the green light to keep investigating and that they would keep this this investigation secret, including from the White House until such time as they needed to to sort of move forward with a more formal part of the investigation. And so Richardson in a real way is the person who sort of allows this investigation to sort of reach. It's the conclusion that it needs to so one avenue find out he's under investigation. He wants to shut it down before we get to the the really big way. He tries to shut it down. What are some of the smaller ways of attacking the people who are investigating? One of the first signs that the Baltimore prosecutors had that they were maybe onto something big that related to the vice president is that when Agnew heard that. There was an investigation going on into public corruption in Baltimore County back in Maryland, he made himself available to the attorney general he impotent himself into the scandal himself, even before he had ever been named in conjunction with it, actually, even before the attorney general knew that this investigation was going on it had risen to the level where the attorney general himself would be notified so Agnew had his antenna up and knew that this was something that could get him in trouble. And so he got himself more in trouble by raising his hand and saying, hey, Mr. attorney general this investigation this needs to stop that was sort of. Prosecutors I sign that maybe he was involved in it that was not a genius move on Agnew's part. But then he continued efforts through the attorney general. Directly, and ultimately through the US attorney who was supervising the investigation in Maryland to pressure them into stopping the investigation simply because Agnew thought. They should and one of the things that's that's interesting to see in terms of that strategy that Rachel's talking about is his effort to sort of behind the scenes cast. These federal prosecutors as biased he's sort of making an effort within the White House to say that these prosecutors are unprofessional and that they have political vendettas against him. And so as part of this obstruction effort, he is trying to sort of malign the character of the prosecutors who are in the process of investigating them that has a familiar ring to it. Sure does. So you found something Mike that the prosecutors didn't even know at the time, and that this was there was a secret plan that Agnew had to shut down the investigation. Would you describe that secret plan? Yeah. You know, it's an interesting part of us digging into the story was looking through the Nixon White House recordings. And obviously, those recordings have been very picked over as it relates to Watergate, but not as picked over as it relates to the Agnew scandal. And what we found as we were sort of listening through the recordings was this effort that Spiro Agnew developed behind the scenes with Richard Nixon, and with HR Haldeman and other White House officials to try to shut down this investigation. That was being led by the US attorney in Maryland man, named George bell and the way that Agnew tried to do it was by getting to George Bell's brother who was a sitting Republican Senator from Maryland named Glen bell. And what you hear in these tapes is this really an elaborate plan that Spiro Agnew discussing in the Oval Office with Richard Nixon and others to basically get to this Republican Senator behind the scene. Jeans and have him essentially, get word to his brother to shut down this investigation. And as you mentioned, this was a an obstruction effort that the prosecutors at the time didn't know about and one of the surprising and amazing things to us as we were putting together this podcast was that even forty five years later, they weren't aware of it. And so their reaction now to hearing about this effort to obstruct an end their investigation revelatory moment in in putting together this podcast, which is that they they were completely unaware. And the reason that they weren't is. Because ultimately, the obstruction effort didn't work and George bell their boss. The US attorney was getting that pressure from his brother, and he shut it down. He didn't let it get to his federal prosecutors were working on the case he shut the attempt to shut down the investigation. That's right. That's right. He resisted pressure. That was coming at him from the Nixon White House in from his brother. Okay. And kiss anybody's finding the story. Harka follow. So George bell is the federal prosecutor in Maryland overseeing the investigation into avenue. His brother is a Republican sitting Senator from Maryland who's getting pressured from the White House. So the Senator being pressured to tell his brother the prosecutor shut it down. And the other nice dynamic at work. There is that George bells older brother, the US Senator he really owed his Senate seat to Nixon and Agnew, Nixon and Agnew had weighed in very heavily during his election campaign to help him win that seat Jorge and Glenn the brothers. Their father had previously held that US Senate seat. He had been ousted by democrat, Nixon and Agnew in the White House weighed in to help the bell family to help George bells. Older brother win that seat back that their father had previously held the bell family was absolutely indebted to the Nixon White House to Agnew personally. Because he campaigned for that Senate seat as a big figure in Maryland politics for them to win it. And so for then little brother, George bell to turn around and bring a prosecution against Agnew when his family was so politically and personally indebted to Agnew, and when Agnew was reminding them of that at every turn and bringing all of. These different Republican graybeards and important people to weigh in to try to pressure. This investigation to stop George bell was a heroic figure here on the way that he resisted the pressure. That was brought against him. My guests are Rachel motto and Mike yards who collaborated on the podcast bag, man. A seven part series about the bribery and extortion investigation into vice president Spiro Agnew, and how it forced his resignation motto hosts MSNBC's the Rachel Maddow show yards is a former senior producer of the show after a break. We'll talk about how George H W Bush figures into Agnew's attempt to stop the investigation, and we'll talk about lessons from the Agnew story that may be relevant to the investigations into Donald Trump. I'm Terry gross. And this is fresh air..

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"george bell" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

08:38 min | 3 years ago

"george bell" Discussed on KQED Radio

"My interview with Rachel motto and Mike yards about their podcast bag, man. A seven episode series about the federal investigation into Nixon's. First vice president Spiro Agnew federal investigators in Baltimore found evidence that Agnew was involved with bribery and extortion, while he was Baltimore County, executive and governor of Maryland, and he continued to collect money while he was vice president Agnew was forced to resign in October nineteen Seventy-three while Nixon remained under investigation for Watergate. The podcast reveals news surprise twists in the story. Rachel Maddow, co wrote and hosts bagman Mike yards co wrote and produced the series. She's the host of MSNBC's. The Rachel Maddow show rates is a former senior producer of her shell when we left off. We were talking about the plan Agnew developed with Nixon and Nixon's chief-of-staff, h r Haldeman. To try to stop the investigation into Agnew by telling Glen bell, a sitting Republican Senator from Baltimore to get his brother, George bell. The US attorney in Maryland overseeing the investigation to shut it down. There were many surprises for me and listening to your podcasts bag, man. Perhaps the biggest was hearing. And I'll set the scene here. I was listening to this particular episode of the podcast not long after George H W Bush funeral and there was a kind of a whole week of the news networks, basically talking most of the time about George H W Bush's presidency. What a model president he was and suddenly his name crops up in your podcast about the Agnew bribery, and extortion scheme any attempt to shut down the investigation. Tell us how George H W Bush comes up in this. So when. Avenue and the Nixon White House. We're trying to put together a scheme to shut down this prosecution of Agnew. They lit on this idea that the US attorney in Maryland who was leading the investigation that he could be pressured through his family to stop this thing. So the White House needed somebody to put that pressure on him Nixon says on that he's not going to do it himself. So Nixon staff is like, oh, no, no, sir. Of course, you can't do that yourself. It seems like Agnew did a little bit of it himself. There was a lot of discussion about different senior White House figures being asked to go put that pressure on that Senator, but ultimately for variety of reasons the person or one of the persons who they decided to dispatch to pressure that Senator to try to shut down. That investigation was the then head of the Republican National Committee, the head of the Republican party who was George H W Bush, so. We know that he actually went to the senator's office to try to get him to pressure. His brother. To stop the investigation. But do we really know what he said, we know we know he had the meanings. But I was wondering like did Hw Bush go to the Senator and say, I was told to tell you this. I'm telling you this. I'm not telling you to do it. I'm just telling you, I was told to tell you this. I've told you this goodbye. Thank you. Do you know what I mean? So it's like, I'm doing my job. I'm telling you. But I'm not pressuring you. I'm just reporting. What they told me to tell you in a neutral. Yeah. We don't have. We don't have recording of what happened between George H W Bush and this Republican Senator. But I mean, Mike was able to turn up pretty good evidence on both sides of the request. And what was apparently the delivery of the pressure by George H W Bush. So we we at least can see some of the documentation of it. Right. That's yeah. That's right. We can hear obviously, the White House tapes where Al Hejaz informing president Nixon that he's you know, he says I did it through George Bush on the first run. Meaning I spoke to George Bush and told him to deliver this message to the Senator to get through to his brother. And so we know from that end that Al Haig, and Richard Nixon oversaw this effort to have George Bush do that in one of the things that we found in reporting of the story was trip that I took to George bell. Els archives at Frostburg state university of Maryland where he wrote a memo to file that lives in his archives in which he memorialize us for the record. The fact that his brother the sitting Republican Senator Glen bell did rela- a conversation that was had with him by George Bush, and we don't know the exact nature of the conversation. But it was part of this effort from Agnew to say that these prosecutors were intimidating people and were conducting this investigation in an unprofessional manner. And we can see in this memo to file from that summer of nineteen Seventy-three that George H W Bush who was then Republican party chairman did speak to the Republican Senator there to try to get word to his brother about this investigation. You also have on tape Agnew's saying get this thing the investigation get this thing over with and get the skies Skolnick. One of the prosecutors, who's a musky volunteer the hell out of his office. Where did you find that statement? Well, that one we found on one of these Nixon White House tapes, which was a conversation that Spiro Agnew was having with Richard Nixon in the Oval Office in that was you know, when you talk about this sort of elements of obstruction and the efforts to shut down this investigation that was that seemed to be a prime motivator force bureau, which was to get this federal prosecutor Barney Skolnick who was the lead prosecutor on this three man team to get him thrown off the case. And you know, as one of the things that was sort of amazing to find is that Barney Skolnick have never known about that. And until you've played it for him. Until we played it for him. And it was something that he had not known. And again, it's a credit to his boss at the time, George bell that he that he didn't know that because that pressure those efforts to to get him thrown off the case they never sort of got through to him. And so in a real way these federal prosecutors, and they say if they were just doing their job, they were not looking for any fame out of this or or anything like that. But I think when when Barney's only was able to see on tape that part of the obstruction effort was to get him fired. Essentially off the case that was surprising moment that that we to revealed to him for this for this series. So let's play some of prosecutor Barney Skolnik's reaction when you played that tape for him. Oh is my name. Wow. My name. Oh, joy this thing over with and get. This guy's gonna coups a musky volunteer the hell out of this office. Oh, man. You gotta give me a copy of this. Oh, wow. Makes my whole life worthwhile. So that was prosecutor Barney skull, Nick. In a moment from the podcast bagman. If you're just joining us, my guests, original meadow and Mike ER vets they collaborated on the podcast bag man about the bribery and extortion scandal surrounding Nixon's first, vice president Spiro Agnew, and how avenue was subsequently forced out of office. It's a story with a lot of parallels to today. We'll be right back after a break. This is fresh air. Support for NPR comes from this station and from progressive insurance, offering its homequote explorer so shoppers can evaluate options in one place when buying home insurance custom quotes and rates are available online. Learn.

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"george bell" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

06:43 min | 3 years ago

"george bell" Discussed on KQED Radio

"And so Richardson in a real way is the person who sort of allows this investigation to sort of reach. It's the conclusion that it needs to so when Agnew find out he's under investigation. He wants to shut it down before we get to the the really big way. He tries to shut it down. What are some of the smaller ways of attacking the people who are investigating? One of the first signs that the Baltimore prosecutors had that they were maybe onto something big that related to the vice president is that when Agnew heard that. There was an investigation going on into public corruption in Baltimore County back in Maryland, he made himself available to the attorney general he is there to import tuned himself into the scandal himself, even before he had ever been named in conjunction with it, actually, even before the attorney general knew that this investigation was going on it had risen to the level where the attorney general himself would be notified so Agnew had his Antenne up and knew that this was something that could get him in trouble. And so he got himself more in trouble by raising his hand and saying, hey, Mr. attorney general this investigation this needs to stop that was sort of. Prosecutors I sign that maybe he was involved in it that was not a genius move on Agnew's part. But then he continued efforts through the attorney general. Directly, and ultimately through the US attorney who was supervising the investigation Maryland to pressure them into stopping the investigation simply because Agnew thought. They should and one of the things that's that's interesting to see in terms of that strategy that Rachel's talking about is his effort to sort of behind the scenes cast. These federal prosecutors as biased he's sort of making an effort within the White House to say that these prosecutors are unprofessional and that they have political vendettas against him. And so as part of this obstruction effort, he is trying to sort of malign the character of the prosecutors who were in the process of investigating him that has a familiar ring to it. So you found something Mike that the prosecutors didn't even know at the time, and that this was there was a secret plan that Agnew had to shut down the investigation. Would you describe that secret plan? Yeah. You know, it's an interesting part of us digging into the story was looking through the Nixon White House recordings. And obviously, those recordings have been very picked over as it relates to Watergate, but not as picked over as it relates to the Agni scandal. And what we found as we were sort of listening through the recordings was this effort that Spiro Agnew developed behind the scenes with Richard Nixon, and with HR Haldeman and other White House officials to try to shut down this investigation. That was being led by the US attorney in Maryland man, named George bell and the way that Agnew tried to do it was by getting to George Bell's brother who was a sitting Republican Senator from Maryland named Glen bell. And what you hear on these tapes is this really an elaborate plan that Spiro Agnew discussing in the Oval Office with Richard Nixon and others to basically get to this Republican Senator behind the scene. Jeans and have him essentially, get word to his brother to shut down this investigation. And as you mentioned, this was a an obstruction effort that the prosecutors at the time didn't know about and one of the surprising, an amazing things to us as we were putting together this podcast was that even forty five years later, they weren't aware of it. And so their reaction now to hearing about this effort to obstruct an end their investigation revelatory moment in in putting together this podcast, which is that they were completely unaware. And the reason that they weren't is. Because ultimately, the obstruction effort didn't work and George bell their boss. The US attorney was getting that pressure from his brother, and he shut it down. He didn't let it get to his federal prosecutors were working on the case he shut the attempt to shut down the investigation. That's right. He resisted that pressure. That was coming at him from the Nixon White House in from his brother. Okay. In case anybody's finding the story hard to follow. So George bell is the federal prosecutor in Maryland overseeing the investigation into Adnew. His brother is Republicans sitting Senator from Maryland who's getting pressured from the White House. So the senators being pressured to tell his brother the prosecutor shut it down. And the other nice dynamic at work. There is that George bells older brother, the US Senator he really owed his Senate seat to Nixon and Agnew, Nixon and Agnew had weighed in very heavily during his election campaign to help him win that seat Jorge and Glenn the brothers. Their father had previously held that US Senate seat. He had been ousted by a democrat, Nixon and Agnew in the White House weighed in to help the bell family to help George bells. Older brother win that seat back that their father had previously held the bell family was absolutely indebted to the Nixon White House to Agnew personally. Because he campaigned for that Senate seat as a big figure in Maryland politics for them to win it. And so for them little brother, George bell to turn around and bring a prosecution against Agnew when his family was so politically and personally indebted to Agnew, and when Agnew was reminding them of that at every turn and bring all of the. These different Republican graybeards important people to weigh in to try to pressure. This investigation to stop George bell was a heroic figure here on the way that he resisted the pressure. That was brought against him. My guests are Rachel motto. And Mike Yar vets who collaborated on the podcast bag, man. A seven part series about the bribery and extortion investigation into vice president Spiro Agnew, and how it forced his resignation. Not oh hosts MSNBC's. The Rachel Maddow show yards is a former senior producer of the show after a break. We'll talk about how George H W Bush figures into Agnew's attempt to stop the investigation, and we'll talk about lessons from the Agnew story that may be relevant to the investigations into Donald Trump. I'm Terry gross. And this is fresh air. The Neubauer family foundation supports WHYY's, fresh air and its commitment to sharing ideas.

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"george bell" Discussed on Fresh Air

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03:56 min | 3 years ago

"george bell" Discussed on Fresh Air

"That was being led by the US attorney in Maryland man, named George bell and the way that Agnew tried to do it was by getting to George Bell's brother who was a sitting Republican Senator from Maryland named Glen bell. And what you hear in these tapes is this really elaborate plan that Spiro Agnew discussing in the Oval Office with Richard Nixon and others to basically get to this Republican Senator behind the scene. Enes and have him essentially get word to his brother to shut down this investigation. And as you mentioned, this was a an obstruction effort that prosecutors at the time didn't know about and one of the surprising and amazing things to us as we were putting together this podcast was that even forty five years later, they weren't aware of it. And so their reaction now to hearing about this effort to obstruct an end their investigation. It was a revelatory moment in in putting together this podcast, which is that they they were completely unaware in the reason that they weren't is. Because ultimately, the obstruction effort didn't work and George bell their boss. The US attorney was getting that pressure from his brother, and he shut it down. He didn't let it get to his federal prosecutors were working on the case he shot and the attempt to shut down the investigation. That's right. That's right. He resisted that pressure. That was coming at him from the Nixon White House and from his brother, okay? In case anybody's finding the story hard to follow. So George bell is the federal prosecutor in Maryland overseeing the investigation into Adnew. His brother is a Republican sitting Senator from Maryland who's getting pressured from the White House. So the senators being pressured to tell his brother the prosecutor shut it down. Any other nice dynamic at work. There is that George bells older brother, the US Senator he really owed his Senate seat to Nixon and Agnew, Nixon and Agnew had weighed in very heavily during his election campaign to help him win that seat Jorge and Glenn the brothers. Their father had previously held that US Senate seat. He had been ousted by democrat, Nixon and Agnew in the White House. Wade into help the bell family to help George bells. Older brother win that seat back that their father had previously held the bell family was absolutely indebted to the Nixon White House to Agnew personally. Because he campaigned. For that Senate seat as a big figure in Maryland politics for them to win it. And so for then little brother, George bell to turn around and bring prosecution against Agnew when his family was so politically and personally indebted to Agnew, and when Agnew was reminding them of that at every turn and bringing all of these different Republican graybeards and important people to weigh in to try to pressure. This investigation to stop. I mean, George bell was a heroic figure here in the way that he resisted the pressure. That was brought against him. My guests are Rachel meadow. And Mike Yar Vitz who collaborated on the podcast bagman. A seven part series about the bribery and extortion investigation into vice president Spiro Agnew, and how it forced his resignation motto hosts MSNBC's the Rachel maddow's show yards is a former senior producer of the show after a break. We'll talk about how George H W Bush figures into Agnew's attempt to stop the investigation, and we'll talk about lessons. From the Agnew story that may be relevant to the investigations into Donald Trump. I'm Terry gross. And this is fresh air support for this podcast and the following message. Come from duck, duck go in a time when some big tech companies are surveilling your every move online. Duck duck. Go has a private search engine that allows people to search without being tracked, plus their mobile, apps and browser extensions. Block sketchy add trackers across the web. Visit duck duck go dot com slash listen to take back your privacy..

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"george bell" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

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08:56 min | 3 years ago

"george bell" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"This barrier is absolutely critical to border security. It's also what our professionals at the border want. Andy. This is just common sense. We'll have reaction from Democrats Republicans and people on both sides of the border this afternoon on all things considered from NPR news, weekdays starting at four on WNYC. WNYC supporters include the world premiere on Broadway of Harper. Lee's to kill a Mockingbird. Jeff Daniels Atticus Finch in this new play by Aaron Sorkin new block of tickets on sale today through November first. If you believe democracy requires a free press your station is WNYC ninety three point nine FM and AM eight twenty NPR news. This is fresh air. I'm Terry gross. Let's get back to my interview with Rachel motto and Mike yards about their podcast bagman. A seven episode series about the federal investigation into Nixon's. First vice president Spiro Agnew federal investigators in Baltimore found evidence that Agnew was involved with bribery and extortion, while he was Baltimore County, executive and governor of Maryland, and he continued to collect money while he was vice president Agnew was forced to resign in October nineteen Seventy-three while Nixon remained under investigation for Watergate. The podcast reveals news surprise twists in the story. Rachel motto co wrote and hosts bag man, Mike your of its co wrote and produced the series. She's the host of MSNBC's. The Rachel Maddow show. Your rates is a former senior producer of her shell when we left off. We were talking about the plan Agnew developed with Nixon and Nixon's chief-of-staff h r Haldeman try. To stop the investigation into Agnew by telling Glen bell, a sitting Republican Senator from Baltimore to get his brother, George bell. The US attorney in Maryland overseeing the investigation to shut it down. There were many surprises for me and listening to your podcasts bagman. Perhaps the biggest was hearing. And I'll set the scene here. I was listening to this particular episode of the podcast not long after George H W Bush's funeral. And there was a kind of a whole week of the news networks, basically talking most of the time about George H W Bush's presidency. What a model president he was and suddenly his name crops up in your podcast about the Agnew bribery, and extortion scheme and the attempt to shut down the investigation. Tell us how George H W Bush comes up in this. So when Agnew and the. John White house. We're trying to put together a scheme to shut down this prosecution of Agnew. They lit on this idea that the US attorney in Maryland who was leading the investigation that he could be pressured through his family to stop this thing. So the White House needed somebody to put that pressure on him Nixon says on that he's not going to do it himself. So Nixon staff is like, oh, no, no, sir. Of course, you can't do that yourself. It seems like Agnew did a little bit of it himself. There was a lot of discussion about different senior White House figures being asked to go put that pressure on that Senator, but ultimately for variety of reasons the person or one of the persons who they decided to dispatch to pressure that Senator to try to shut down. That investigation was the then head of the Republican National Committee, the head of the Republican party who was George H W Bush. So we know. That he actually went to the senator's office to try to get him to pressure. His brother. To stop the investigation. But doing really know what he said, we know we know he had the meanings. But I I was wondering like did Hw Bush go to the Senator and say, I was told to tell you this. I'm telling you this. I'm not telling you to do it. I'm just telling you, I was told to tell you this. I've told you this goodbye. Thank you. Do you know what I mean? So it's like, I'm doing my job. I'm telling you. But I'm not pressuring you. I'm just reporting what they told me to tell you in a neutral. We don't have. We don't have recording of what happened between George H W Bush and this Republican Senator. But I mean, Mike was able to turn up pretty good evidence on both sides of the request. And what was apparently the delivery of the pressure by George H W Bush. So we we at least can see some of the documentation of it. Right. That's yeah. That's right. We can hear obviously, the White House tapes where Al Haig is informing president Nixon that he's you know, he says I did it through George Bush on the first run. Meaning I spoke to George Bush and told him to deliver this message to the Senator to get through his brother. And so we know from that end that Al Haig, and Richard Nixon oversaw this effort to have George Bush do that in one of the things that we found in reporting. This story was trip that I took to George bell. Els archives at Frostburg state university of Maryland where he wrote a memo to file that lives in his archives in which he memorialize us for the record. The fact that his brother the Republican Senator Glen bell did rela- conversation that was had with him by George Bush, and we don't know the exact nature of the conversation. But it was part of this effort from avenue to say that these prosecutors were intimidating people and were conducting this investigation in an unprofessional manner. And we can see in this memo to file from that summer of nineteen Seventy-three that George H W Bush who was then Republican party chairman did speak to the Republican Senator there to try to get word to his brother about this investigation. You also have on tape Agnew saying get this thing the investigation get this thing over with and get the sky Skolnick. One of the prosecutors, who's a musky volunteer the hell out of his office. Where did you find that statement? Well, that one we found on one of these Nixon White House tapes, which was the conversation that Spiro Agnew was having with Richard Nixon in the Oval Office in that was you know, when you talk about the sort of elements of obstruction and the efforts to shut down this investigation that was that seemed to be a prime motivator force bureau, which was to get this federal prosecutor Barney Skolnick who was the lead prosecutor on this three man team to get him thrown off the case. And you know, as one of the things that was sort of amazing to find is that Barney Skolnick had never known about that. And until you've played it for him. Until we played it for him. And it was something that he had not known. And again, it's a credit to his boss at the time, George bell that he that he didn't know that because that pressure those efforts to to get him thrown off the case they never sort of got through to him. And so in a real way these federal prosecutors, and they said they were just doing their job. They were not looking for any fame out of this or or anything like that. But I think when when Barney Skolnik was able to see on tape that part of the obstruction effort was to get him fired. Essentially off the case that was surprising moment that that we re revealed to him for this for this series. So let's play some of prosecutor Barney Skolnik's reaction when you played that tape for him. Oh as my name. Wow. My name. Oh joy. Get this thing over with and get this guy. Scown coups, Muskie, volunteer the hell out of this office. Oh, man. You gotta give me a copy of this. Oh, wow. Makes my whole life. That was prosecutor Barney Skolnick in a moment from the podcast bag, man. If you're just joining us, my guest, original Matto and Mike ER vets they collaborated on the podcast bag man about the bribery and extortion scandal surrounding Nixon's first vice president Spiro Agnew, and how Agnew was subsequently forced out of office. It's a story with a lot of parallels to today. We'll be right back after a break. This is fresh air support for WNYC comes from Hulu, presenting the documentary, minding the gap..

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"george bell" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

10:26 min | 3 years ago

"george bell" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"This is fresh air. And if you're just joining us, my guests are Rachel motto and Mike yard vets. They've collaborated on the podcast bagman about the bribery and extortion scandal involving Nixon's first vice president Spiro Agnew, and how Agnew was subsequently forced out of office. There's a lot of parallels today. So once the Maryland federal prosecutors found out about talk of this bribery, and extortion scheme involving Agnew. They wanted to investigate and see what they can find they needed the green light from the newly appointed attorney general Elliot Richardson, he was appointed in the spring of nineteen Seventy-three Richardson had already appointed a special prosecutor to investigate Watergate. So what was Richardson's reaction when he was told by his prosecutors that they wanted to investigate the vice president and bribery, and extortion Richardson was in an amazing situation here because. He was not only. The attorney general the third Nixon attorney general at that point the first two had resigned in Watergate adjacent scandals of their own. He's the third Nixon attorney general there's the special prosecutor's looking into Watergate, he's responsible for that to a certain extent as attorney general, but he's also become a sounding board for Nixon himself. Nixon is frequently personally calling Richardson at that point to complain about various elements of the Watergate investigation in the scandal surrounding him, and that gives Richardson an insight into the president's state of mind, and how much this investigation is affecting him and distracting him and dominating his life as president and on top of that a totally unrelated scandal is brought to his desk from these Baltimore prosecutors who had not started off investigating Agnew. They had just started investigating. But what was known to be a public corruption problem in Maryland. They did not expect that it would take them to the door of the sitting vice president. But it did by the time they came to Richardson, they had a ton of evidence against the sitting vice president, and they were essentially bringing him something. Brand new and something potentially equally catastrophic for the White House to the Watergate scandal he was already dealing with. So Richardson is getting pressured by Agnew like don't do anything about this Richardson could have put a stop to this right there. But he didn't he could've and that's one of the really sort of dramatic scenes that plays out in this podcast. And that the the prosecutors were counted for us as this July third nineteen Seventy-three meeting where they're going to the Justice department to meet with Richardson for the first time, and they know that they've got the sort of bombshell on their hands. They understand Watergate is going on at the time and the consequences of this are incredible going into that meeting as they recount, they don't know what Elliot Richardson is going to do as they're laying out all of this evidence that they've collected against the sitting vice president they're sort of looking at Elliot Richardson's face trying to sort of calculate what he's going to do in Richardson during this meeting has been called out of the room for phone calls from the White House about Watergate from Nixon from El Hage, and so it's incredible pressure. That Elliot Richardson is under at the time, which the prosecutors are aware of and it's not until at the end of that meeting that it becomes clear to the prosecutors that Elliot Richardson is. Not going to shut this investigation down. He understands the importance of it. And he basically gives them the green light to keep investigating and that they would keep this this investigation secret, including from the White House until such time as they needed to to sort of move forward with a more formal part of the investigation. And so Richardson in a real way is the person who sort of allows this investigation to sort of reach. It's the conclusion that it needs to. So when Agnew finds out he's under investigation. He wants to shut it down before we get to the the really big way. He tries to shut it down. What are some of the smaller ways of attacking the people who are investigating? One of the first signs that the Baltimore prosecutors had that they were maybe onto something big that related to the vice president is that when Agnew heard that. There was an investigation going on into public corruption in Baltimore County back in Maryland, he made himself available to the attorney general he importuner himself into the scandal himself, even before he had ever been named in conjunction with it, actually, even before the attorney general knew that this investigation was going on it had risen to the level where the attorney general himself would be notified so Agnew had his intent up and knew that this was something that could get him in trouble. And so he got himself more in trouble by raising his hand and saying, hey, Mr. attorney general this investigation this needs to stop that was sort of. Prosecutors I sign that maybe he was involved in it that was not a genius move on Agnew's part. But then he continued efforts through the attorney general. Directly, and ultimately through the US attorney who was supervising the investigation Maryland to pressure them into stopping the investigation simply because Agnew thought. They should and one of the things that's that's interesting to see in terms of that strategy that Rachel's talking about is his effort to sort of behind the scenes cast. These federal prosecutors as biased he's sort of making an effort within the White House to say that these prosecutors are unprofessional and that they have political vendettas against him. And so as part of this obstruction effort, he is trying to sort of malign the character of the prosecutors who were in the process of investigating him that has a familiar ring to it. Sure does. So you found something Mike that the prosecutors didn't even know at the time, and that this was there was a secret plan that Agnew had to shut down the investigation. Would you describe that secret plan? Yeah. You know, it's an interesting part of us digging into the story was looking through the Nixon White House recordings. And obviously, those recordings have been very pick over as it relates to Watergate, but not as picked over as it relates to the Agnew scandal. And what we found as we were sort of listening through the recordings was this effort that Spiro Agnew developed behind the scenes with Richard Nixon, and with HR Haldeman and other White House officials to try to shut down this investigation. That was being led by the US attorney in Maryland men, named George bell and the way that Agnew tried to do it was by getting to George Bell's brother who was a sitting Republican Senator from Maryland named Glen bell. And what you hear in these tapes is this really elaborate plan that Spiro Agnew discussing in the Oval Office with Richard Nixon and others to basically get to this Republican Senator behind the scene. Jeans and have him essentially, get word to his brother to shut down this investigation. And as you mentioned, this was an obstruction effort that the prosecutors at the time didn't know about and one of the surprising and amazing things to us. As were putting together this podcast was that even forty five years later, they weren't aware of it. And so their reaction now to hearing about this effort to obstruct an end their investigation revelatory moment in in putting together this podcast, which is that they they were completely unaware the reason that they weren't is. Because ultimately, the obstruction effort didn't work and George bell their boss. The US attorney was getting that pressure from his brother, and he shut it down. He didn't let it get to his federal prosecutors were working on the case he shut the attempt to shut down the investigation. That's right. He resisted that pressure. That was coming at him from the Nixon White House in from his brother. Okay. In case anybody's finding the story hard to follow. So George bell is the federal prosecutor in Maryland overseeing the investigation into Agnew. His brother is a Republican sitting Senator from Maryland who's getting pressured from the White House. So the senators being pressured to tell his brother the prosecutor shut it down. And the other nice dynamic at work. There is that George bells older brother, the US Senator he really owed his Senate seat to Nixon and Agnew, Nixon and Agnew had weighed in very heavily during his election campaign to help him win that seat Jorge and Glenn the brothers. Their father had previously held that US Senate seat. He had been ousted by democrat, Nixon and Agnew in the White House weighed in to help the bell family to help George bells. Older brother win that seat back that their father had previously held the bell family was absolutely indebted to the Nixon White House to Agnew personally. Because he campaigned for that Senate seat as a big figure in Maryland politics for them to win it. And so for then little brother, George bell to turn around and bring a prosecution against Agnew when his family was so politically and personally indebted to Agnew, and when Agnew was reminding them of that at every turn and bringing all of the. These different Republican graybeards and important people to weigh in to try to pressure. This investigation to stop George bell was a heroic figure here in the way that he resisted the pressure. That was brought against him. My guests are Rachel motto. And Mike Yar vets who collaborated on the podcast bag, man. A seven part series about the bribery and extortion investigation into vice president Spiro Agnew, and how it forced his resignation motto host NBC's. The Rachel Maddow show yards is a former senior producer of the show after a break. We'll talk about how George H W Bush figures into Agnew's attempt to stop the investigation, and we'll talk about lessons from the Agnew story that may be relevant to the investigations into Donald Trump. I'm Terry gross. And this is fresh air. The Neubauer family foundation supports WHYY's, fresh air and its commitment to sharing ideas and.

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