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"george bamberger" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"Know Interesting. I mean even look at Leo Mazzone and Leo went down to To Atlanta Nineteen Ninety two. I was about the Cox became the manager and he was a minor league pitching coach in you. He had kind of it kind of been mentored by Johnny say You know he used to tell me stories about. I mean years ago and of course I see him on a fairly regular basis but he told me that after the you know after spring training games to Johnny lived in a trailer and they go down and I think sip some Scotch Whiskey. Or whatever and they talk about ditching and you know so he kind of learned and then of course he. He went to Atlanta and They had they got from the cubs and Tom. Glavin was seven and seventeen. Medics had been a couple years. And you know John. Smoltz was an organization. So you have a nucleus of a lot of veterans As it turned out they could mentor. Kevin Neal where Millwood Denny Naegle people like that that came through the system You know that was my job with oils. Is there twenty years and I think one of the proudest moments for me? Of course if you had a chance to To watch Dave McNally and fat Dobson and my choir I mean all of us won twenty games in nineteen seventy one and then what happens. Is You get Flanagan and McGregor and and you get Dennis Martinez and then you get Mike. Vodka and stormed Davis and you can do things. I mean my Flanagan of the Orioles and I gotta think you know. I know I'm taking a little bit of credit but you know something that I had said allowed him to win over one hundred ninety games and you know have a great stature in the game and I mean that's really what it's all about. It's not about you it's just about you know if you love the game and you have a passion for the game. Somehow you figure out a way to help the other people because I learned a long time ago that back then we used to pitcher before day that if I could be supportive and I could be You know a good team. That fighting went on Tuesday. That the David Alley or my choir Pat Dobson was gonNA pick me up the rest of the three days in a four man rotation and you know that's what you do with Flanagan and that's what you do with McGregor because by making them better he really make your team better and and you know. I guess you make a good point when you take a look at those great to Baltimore. Orioles pitching staff. She mentioned McNally. Dobson yourself and and others. How much of the greatness and the consistency of that pitching staff can be credited also to the catchers you had you had to baron. You had elrod Henrik's I just wonder the importance of having consistent catchers as well as consistent pitchers you know whether it was very whether it was Henrik's You know whether it was Rick Dempsey. Who was the most valuable player in the eighty? Three World Series and They were able to win that one. You had guys that are on the same page You know had Harry Burkina when I was first there but I think the biggest You know important guy in my career with George Bamberger.
"george bamberger" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"Seven hundred WLW welcome back as leverage on a year that panic at the disco song it's kind of a fun song actually we are counting down to UC basketball at twelve thirty the award winning team of Dan Horton Terry Nelson they have been studiously studying all that needed to be learned and disseminated to you so you have the complete in game experience all this Titanic struggle between the Bearcats in the Wichita state shockers I did what I did Tulsa university basketball for all those years ago Wichita was always a fun place to go to the roundhouse try the who the head coach was there was a guy ball everybody had big old mustaches but gene Smithson gene Smithson was the head coach at at Wichita state they were very very good Wichita is is pretty good town it's not a big town but a pretty good town and they've always had not always but consistently had good basketball joining they've got really because their football program was four per for all intents and purposes dismantled about thirty years ago anyway that's all coming up until twelve thirty today here on seven hundred WLW there is still unrest and I have said this and it will be the case in baseball all season long there is still unrest about the way the commissioner of baseball has dealt with the sign stealing of Houston Astros players in twenty seventeen when they won the World Series and I'm not sure it's going to change until any of the commissioner ri addresses this and takes those who were the actual perpetrators of the crime takes them to task so far all we've gotten word maybe the only played by people that we've gotten on this that have been disciplined R. three managers and a general manager well okay the Buck stops there I get it but what about the book along the way and it's got a lot of baseball players upset Trevor Bauer is one of the more outspoken players but there are others and it's going to be very interesting to see how baseball deals with this by baseball I mean the players themselves because there's one thing that players don't want and that is cheated out of something and but there is a firm belief I think that almost universal belief among the rank and file in Major League Baseball that they were cheated out of something and certainly in the case of the Dodgers and the Yankees that year there is a real belief so I think it's going to be interesting to see what the reaction is in the game as though we count down the opening day but I know this is not a new phenomenon cheating and sign stealing has been going on in baseball for decades and I know this simply because I've seen the stories I've also read the book the book is the baseball coach it's been about eight or nine years now the authors Jason turbo he's been on the show many many times when we talk about the own written rules of baseball how not to show someone up what to do if you're called out on strikes should you bought when your team is up eight runs and if you do so what's the retaliation and sign stealing is a very big part of this book so when this all develop that's all I got to get G. Saddam and Jason is standing by on the acute hearing centers dot com hotline ought to talk about this and what the possible retaliation may be by players as the season begins here now less than a month and Jason turbo thank you for joining us how are you I'm great good to talk to you again can thanks for having me on yeah you bet you know it's kind of funny everybody is so morally outraged right now what with the Houston Astros have done they've stolen signs and they've done it to win a World Series and yeah it just it it it abuses me because history is such a neglected subject in this day and age but stealing signs has been going on in baseball for decades decades that's absolutely correct I mean it it goes back much further than the forties and the fifties in the early nineteen hundreds things with station personnel in apartment buildings across the street from the ballpark with a spyglass trained on the catcher and the signal the headers by opening and closing curtains thank you if you don't need high technology you get this kind of espionage dont know and your teams are always looking for that kind of edge so in that regard the Astros are not particularly unique and the way they went about espionage they are very unique I think in the aftermath they've they've proven to be unique as well I'm not in their own benefit yeah yeah and you chronicle all of this are your books it's been about seven eight years the the written rules of baseball the baseball codes it's it's it's terrific in sign stealing is a very big part of this and anecdotally you tell several stories of players who were outraged by going to a team either through trade or signing in the offseason and finding out the star sign stealing was going on there's a wonderful story in there about al Worthington a very successful pitcher in the mid to late fifties he gets traded to the white Sox winds out the white Sox are stealing signs in and effectively decides that he's not going to participate in this and says I'm I'm done we just bought he quit retired by and probably far too early well it's even deeper than that L. Worthington with with the giants first and they have their own sign stealing scandal backs Gandalf it system I bet that Worthington is approved and it turned out he he actually found religion out of midway through his career I became born again and as soon as he got enough Jews as a pitcher to the music and up for what you believe is right he gets and he threatened giants manager bill reckoning with outing the entire scheme well if we didn't knock it off well and and his hand was forced really did knock it off the giants went on a losing streak I fell out of first place did not make the playoffs that year could not dump Worthington fast enough he ended up with the white Sox who you know unfortunately for Worthington had their own sign stealing and yeah and he he just exactly the same stand any it cost him a roster the white Sox dumped him like you mentioned and he actually did come back in a few years later with the Minnesota Twins and had a few more productive season his career but he was a guy who is not afraid at all standing up for what he believed was a right now I mean it it's just one of the one of the players that you point out in your book you know it's I'm listening to Joe Girardi who's now the manager of the Phillies and he said I don't know what it was Thursday Friday of last week he said yeah well look he said every team is going to cheat because it's high reward low risk the chances of getting caught like the Astros got caught they're they're fairly small and because of that teams are going to find a way to game the system and even though this is cost what a general manager and three managers their jobs I don't sense the teams are going to back off sign stealing they may adjust things but they're not backing off all right no I don't think it will you know it's as in storage manager George Bamberger once said a guy who cheats in a friendly game of cards is a cheater but a guy who cheats to put food on his family's table is a competitor and then after you've gotten this and and I think I mind the great thing about baseball's unwritten rules is that they allow a certain degree G. technically stealing aside from a base path is cheating you're doing something you you ought to be done but it's accepted nope no team in the league is going to hold it against I got second base if you're caught using signs with your own eyes and trying to relay them as long as he knocked it off he's not that it's a very simple code the problem with the Astros if they were cheating they were hot they did not get lost and begin with rob Manfred compounded the situation by clearing him of all wrongdoing and and subsequently punishing them to live and you can put out all those details at nine PM yeah I bet you have some degree of cheating is very very acceptable and there's a way that it's going to disappear yeah we're chatting with chatting with Jason turbo his book the unwritten rules of baseball the baseball codes it's a terrific read at that paper back right now is another terrific work on the Oakland A.'s that and their of their early seventies and all the characters that are out there now and it's it's a it's a great book now the Oakland A.'s well what is it bombastic fantastic and then he tells me he's writing a book about the nineteen eighty one Los Angeles Dodgers we all know how the eighty one season turned out here in Cincinnati well here's the thing I want to see how baseball players who are notorious for saying well we want to police ourselves I want to see how they deal with this come opening day I mean this they the the baseball how to give them some immunity so they could get the heads on the platter the manager of a and the general manager of the Astros Carlos Beltran of the Mets Alex Cora of the red Sox my guess is there will be some retaliation but I what do you think it will look like it I mean it's it's a really difficult situation and you can see the dichotomy of opinions coming out in players discussing Mike fox I have a number of players support him hello you're being the whistle blower for talking about a system that no one knew about in the first place and which is the whole reason we have the scandal and there's a couple other subset of the players and commentators who who colonised national rack yeah and and there is no unanimity of opinion and and you know that's that's kind of the way baseball is it doesn't take it doesn't take a hundred percent acceptance rate for a rest at your to drill a guy for doing something wrong analytics is one one rogue angry picture and I think fires knows that use you stepped up and said if I get hit I get hit because you know that you have support in everything the clubhouse across the league in at least some comps yeah Jason turbo the baseball codes B. ball sign stealing a bench clearing brawls it's been out for about seventy years now in paperback you can find it at all the usual locations and then dynastic bombastic and fantastic the story of the nineteen seventies Oakland A.'s thank you Jason great to be on account thank you yeah the I want to say it was so fast right after everybody got into camp and this would have been I guess the middle of last week saw a story in one of the papers I think was the Oakland whatever the Oakland daily newspapers all no no no no it was the chronicle and it it it's it's it's talked about just what the reaction will be from pictures on other teams when it comes time to deal with the Astros of course nobody's going on the record already I'm gonna throw first pitch I'm going to do you know buzzes tower whatever but the chronicle of we had had a writer in in Arizona and was going around to a couple of camps and the general consensus was one of those well we'll see what happens when it happens you know we'll we'll we'll see but you just get the feeling something is going to happen now whether or not it's what Joshi and said at nine thirty today when he was on about he expects it George Springer's first at bat this this this season he's gonna get plucked and it'll be a message and that'll be the end of it and everybody will go on but okay soul does he get pointed every game every team he plays against this year I mean I don't know thank god you got dusty Baker in the mix and he's trying to get preemptive on all this for the for Major League Baseball to step in and protect his players so they don't you know nothing happens there but yeah man for his mis handled this thing since day one and so I don't sense that MapReduce going to come riding in on his white horse and save dusty Baker and his team from retaliation from other Major League Baseball pitchers I think it's going to be fascinating to watch baseball players are notorious for saying this we police ourselves well okay let's let's see what the cop seven store this season it's ten fifty it's news radio seven hundred WLW ready for some you see in which.
"george bamberger" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"From Sacramento of tiny Felder said Denver Vitas Zach green out of Jesuit high school in Sacramento has also been called up to join a big club twenty three home runs fifty nine RBI she's an outstanding player both sides of the ball it's got a lot of powers very odd job placed third base strong arm and two M. L. B. debuts tomorrow Zachary and of course Conor men as congratulations to both of them wow well I'm looking forward to see and missed the green I haven't I haven't seen him play yet so let your managers there is a young lawyer before descending play alright our next guest played with the New York Mets from nineteen seventy five to nineteen eighty four four time all star seventy seven seventy nine eighty and eighty two let's bring in our next test John Stearns this evening are you doing tonight John now I'm good man I'm out here in Denver Colorado well we got Mike tiny fell or somebody that you may recognize back in the day when your culture with the brewers fell in tonight tiny how you doing very best disparity I was wanted to do was go remember me man I don't remember too much study but I think I remember we were you clearly and I tell you a job what really fascinated me and I started looking into is a little bit more I knew you play Lobo football but my goodness you're a hell of a football player who are university of Colorado you lead the nation a one year and sixteen interceptions as a safety and then you got drafted by the Buffalo Bills and I do believe the thirteen th or seventeen th round and you chose baseball over football tells a little bit about your football days at university of Colorado well you know I went to school to high school in Denver and I watched Colorado football all the way up growing up my dad plate there are so when I was a good football player I was five eleven one ninety five ran for six forty not bad you know I didn't have corner that need to be great they are recruiter and I went up there understanding that I would play free safety which is the best position football you're just kind of back there do you nobody ever blast just go to the football go to the go to the plane because our collision and being the cancer you have some good hands yeah yeah baseball was always you know and football are my two best arts way up and had a lot of fun doing that so where right into college in play both sports there when you initially were drafted by the Oakland ETS and ended up going to university of Colorado at boulder and and both you played baseball as well as football and in nineteen seventy two he led the conference in batting at four ninety two twenty six career home runs a Colorado was it difficult to turn on football turn off football turn on baseball turned off baseball there was a very difficult at that time of your life as well as going to university of Colorado it's gonna be tough when you think no I wasn't we that's all I did was growing up I was a jock and I played football during football season that I wanted basketball and I want all I played baseball in summer also I want to only really World Series Bacall league worlds everything just fell into place for some reason all parts were just easy for me you don't even golf which I didn't have time to play competitively but I played on the side of your it was easy I came in athletic parents on both sides and by brothers all they all played also and they did great too so we were lucky to be athletically in doubt you know you're not alone and I don't think they have AAU basketball and travel baseball league back in no time so you could you could play all day all the different support because that sound as if they have that's how we grew up in a day when when it with basketball season we all playing basketball baseball well planned baseball and that's right and that doesn't happen today I'm not I didn't overlap each other so you know I was able to restore from once more to the other and you know it was what I wanted to do it wasn't like it was you know all John stern said on KNBR Joe let's get into your match days nineteen seventy five we played fifty nine games wasn't till nineteen seventy seven is when you kicked in your first all star season hundred thirty nine games you at twelve home runs twenty five double set to fifty one tells a little bit about that your because you started playing a lot more and I of course I remember you have faced in early eighties but the thing was was you came in to a mat staff that was pretty damn good and you had a controlled behind the plate see her to lose one and matte black with a three point one what surprised me was in seventy five a I was a rookie Jiri grow he was the number one catch and for some reason they should have sent me to triple a because I needed to play I was only twenty three years old but I've made the big league team in seventy five and simmer transceiver we're sorry young that year he did all summer and I am like crown starts with Seaver he went nine and one with me and he won the Cy Young that year so well for me as a rookie and I learned a lot working with him what surprised me was you know he let me call the whole game I mean he we was out there on route thirty was shaken Beyonce already XXL and we had a lot of success of that was a big you know confidence builder in my rookie year Albany New York now another thing that I've noticed stony what all this running come from and then use you still is a lot of bases here I'm looking at twenty five stolen bases yeah the catcher may your letter I never played catcher I wasn't a catcher in little place where the two best players playing little because she was not yet you're shortstop get your all I will live and right on through high school and all but and then what happened was when I was a senior all our catcher went down right before the season started with an injury and he was out for the year we had no we'll close look today I was the only guy that could I will wonderful clerk your laptop on our senior year what what what hello H. on a football baseball scholarship to Colorado there is the baseball coach for me behind the plate and that was became a catcher you know after reading what learning was all part of my game so I didn't want to change Instagram's catcher no does your progress the New York Mets some of these other pitchers pads Acree Neil Allen Jeff Reardon I made some great pictures put that met you know for mine and some of your teammates you be Brooks Mookie Wilson a course rusty's stop was one of the the classic met Anna and again Joe Youngblood one of our good friends how about those years what about those teammates how did that all come together we were really laying those yeah as in king seventy five was last year that they were playing the veteran guys that was there were in the World Series in nineteen seventy three in fact it may play Oakland seventy three Oakland Raiders yes other live blasts the gamer's game seven and I wasn't there yet I'm seventy three I was a senior in college and I went on to the MLB draft that year and I got into pro ball but lower was I at the Max they had a veteran team seventy five and I came in a bait the chairman are now from there on it was man about seventy six seventy seven they started rebuilding you know we want rebuilding we didn't win a lot seventy seven seventy eight but I was part of that rebuilding program they got rid of Jerry corroded catcher and Tom Seaver was small never he was one of the actions of the state there along with their main pool and some of those guys you know we tried to rebuild in seventy seven seventy eight seventy nine right here you have some classic managers back in the day Roy make Mel and Joe Frazier Joe Torrey comes a mine and then even George Bamberger what about those kind of managers who pushed here who is in your corner who gave you that little longer rope and most of them do well Joe Torrey was my favorite guy because when I went over to the bats he was actually a veteran player there they got it got him and brought him and to you know help stabilize the team and he actually played his first year there then they made him player manager and I was a young guy and I didn't show I like your own I think it was seventy six seventy seven he became the manager so and there was an easy transition Joe was low key really smart great individual you know its baseball great to play for and he just moved right in and took over as manager and you know the rest is history the hall of fame manager right sure was yeah Howard into the manager of the Yankees and everything also yeah that was fun how how how was it like playing for Bambi Bamberger it was good he came in after the first team that he managed to be managed a walkie and they they were really good over there but then he came over to our place and he was only here for a year or two and it didn't work that well with him over there I think Frank cash because our general manager he brought him over because Frank was an American League guy with the Baltimore Orioles Marie took over the past and that's how Bamberger got over there but it only lasted about a year and a half George and you know and then we moved on I think I didn't have anything to do with it but the general manager good job Jordan great guy though George speaking and John Stearns and can be are one of the flashy guys that was on the Mets was Willie mine as I used to love how he used to slash the leather make EM move make a look I yeah right I read thing was all really was a teammate will really mind what is the only guy you know I played with him he's reporter Rico and I played.
"george bamberger" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"Sitting in well vita blues, thrown his first pitch out and Salem Oregon tonight. Tiny man is up there. The giants extended spring. Now they have like a. Top or low, a ball Salem Oregon, and Tom trouble horns up there man genetic club for the giants you played for him. Tom tripplehorn? Sure did police form in? Aaa won a championship in Vancouver. And Dan, he ended up getting a job at Milwaukee, and spent about three and a half four seasons with him in Milwaukee, I want to get to your Milwaukee days. I did a little research on you a little bit of Mike, Mike, tiny Felder. Michael otas, Felder. I gotcha. I'm all come at you with some good stuff big band, but we're going to we're going to talk to guests I before I get into your career, just a couple of things drafted as a second baseman that kind of surprise me always thought you were an outfielder but she said, second base and shortstop and then you went to the outfield. I was more of a shortstop in a second baseman. Drafted as a second baseman third round in nineteen Eighty-one draft or the Milwaukee Brewers. And sure enough, nineteen Eighty-one you only played four years in the minor leagues. You came up in nineteen eighty five five years, five years wasn't eighty one eighty two eighty three four and eighty five. Okay. All right. I gotcha. All right. Eighty-five. You've played fifteen games in a big leaks September eleventh, nineteen eighty five you first game in a big leagues. Nine eleven remember that. Remember the whole game have remembered part of the game, the only in part of it. We, we, we, we wanted to work we wanted to triple eight championship tonight before we beat the Phoenix giants in Phoenix for the three Phoenix Firebirds back. They Knicks five bird was a fire bird. It was hot Phoenix. When you're playing there. We ended up sweeping them and the third game was in Phoenix. And so the next night in about four pitchers. Got called up the next day but I plan was late. So we got in late. So the game was already started by the time we landed and made I way to the ballpark. And, and then the first thing you had to do you had to stop in and go see to general manager because you had to find big. Contracting. So out of the five I was the last one, of course. They're beating the door by the time I made it down downstairs, did give them a uniform. Find out what my locker would and all that get dressed get down to the dugout. It was already in about the third four minute. So Milwaukee was planning Yankees, who is managing the Billy Martin. What's the Yankees manager Yankees with hot at the time they was on Milwaukee's manager? Oh, my God, George Bamberger head Bambi and Yankees seven game winning streak. And they had just called Toronto. That was the year. Toronto started the season. Eleven oh. And they was going wire-to-wire and, and New York have finally caught fire and had called them in. And so it was tied for first and it was it was a good game. Game was going back and forth. And it was tied up and all of a sudden, the bottom of the ninth in and he was like a Eddie Romero a utility infielder. Remember eddie? Been leading off and Bamberg. Paldon coach. Well, listen fail to kid up there. So I ended up pinch hitting leading off the ninth off the night. Then if Eddie Romero pitch on a mile rich forty wow. Rich Suren Richard a lot of good years, the as and. The Yankees like a two one pit lied. Dr bass. And. I hit first major league baseball baseball though, flying around. I basically tell me more, what ended up having scored the winning run did you? Yes. And then I ended up I was all juiced because I wanted to steal, they ended up walking in next guy. So we I and say, and they ended up button us that third and Cooper and segment. Third and one out and seasonal Kuban ended up hitting a line drive. Slicing down the left field line and Billy sample playing left and he running over to candy. And then even if I weighed me if I kissed his ball, there's no way I'm this guy out there, be let it drop, and it landed about three fifty three feet. Fair Billy, he came flying out of the Doug. I have a foul ball volleyball of three fear. And so I ended up going to win and run. And we love Billy Martin at home. Mattis hill kicking darnold umpire and what I was used to seeing Billy on TV now I'm feeding here by trying to give me half five I'm talking. Going off kicking dirt on a bar. I couldn't believe organ ball, that much fair, no replay back. Then tiny, no replay. That's great. Ios, you remember the first time you're gonna feel. It doesn't matter how old you get. And we always ask all the players, you know that we always ask them, where were you when he got called up and it doesn't matter how old you are. You remember that moment and it was it was a great fairly, but. It was a great feeling for me. But you couldn't celebrate a whole lot because I went up to a team that was in last place by thirty five games out of firstly and they gotta win. We got to win. And then you walk into the clubhouse and guide all he's got ready to, like, oh, how many games we have Levin ready to go home? Big. Hey. Hey and you're excited because that was your first game. I hit score. Run your we're like we're wherever I go. But that's what happens and it's difficult and people don't understand that. When you're in first and second when you're battling those winds everybody's excited, but you and your last place, it's only a win. What's, what are we doing tomorrow? It's sad because those things happen. And when you're teams are, you know, scuffling and the bottom of the barrel, the you're, you're trying to get a win. It doesn't matter how what I like about the giants what they're doing is they're not mailing in, in their thirty wins right now. Thirty eight losses. They're creeping. But they got a little flow going. Now they got they got some positives going. And that's what I liked about today's game. They battle the first place team you still you still want to compete the young players. The young players this plan. They have something to prove they trying to show that they belong up here for the veterans, you want to be good leaders, in showed a young guys at eight there's no Quinton. Emmy we still fight, and then and then the way I look at it too. How many we have thirty eight laws of thirty dollars? How many teams come in first place and at the end of the season, they only have thirty eight losses only have forty losses. You're going to end up with about sixty sixty five losses. So it ain't it ain't over it ain't over till sometimes. And, you know, there's sometimes when you're in first place you're coming in gone. We're playing giants. We should roll these three and next thing you know, you lost I two now tomorrow your balance to get a win before you go home. And, and that's a long flight to Milwaukee. If you drop three of the giants now on the other side giants trying to win one because they got to go to L A and B and play them for four straight there. And that's going to be a battle right off the bat, and it had getting giants a lot of companies by going in, if they can get this win tomorrow. Sweet Milwaukee and they'd be feeling good about yourself. I would go in LA. We knew it was going to be a little heated because you have the situation with Bumgarner Muncie. So they go be a little little little tight. Get the ball on the ocean ocean. Any hasn't been serves media. A thought of news flavor. He had a they go get up to my long to say so we'll see that I've Thursday. That's going to be a rematch, if we're going to talk a little bit about Milwaukee Brewers with the beat writer, Robert Murphy, coming up on the sports leader. We'll be right back. You're listening to on the hill with vita blue and Bill Laskey sponsored by Lunardi markets with eight locations to serve you in the.
"george bamberger" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"You got to the play all year one, Jerry Reese, look like savant. Yes. All of these guys here every one of them. And as we know all of us know giant fans, Jeff here's these big free age. Don't always get sometimes you get the money. You don't even care anymore. If you signed three or forty one big one near you did. Alright, right. They hit on all of them. They have this really good regular season defense carried them. Remember Carrie cats will lead which is weird to think about now considering how awful the defense is. So all these guys have a great year and other than snacks. Vernon went backwards, and he had some health issues and ginormous Jenkins. Although I guess he's still there. He's gonna stay there. Well, let me name they need body. Right. Right. They need a corner because the other corner right now would be Sam Bill who's never played a jet rafted supplemental and this supplemental year ago so gonna need they cut you Jenkins. I think there'd be a cap savings on him to. But then you gotta go out and replace him. Yeah. That's a process when you move on from these guys that's one curious what they got back who they got back or anything so Vernon to the to the Browns to the Browns getting the linemen the guard Zeitler that's actually pretty good morning. Yeah. That's a very good. He's a former Bank. That's the trade straight up. There is no draft choices involved. Nothing. It doesn't look like the right now. That's all I'm saying Zeiler for elevated Zeiler is very well graded off. Now. That's how you gotta look at offense of Lyman watching them every day. But Zeitler is great very well by fro pro football, focus, and if you're turning Vernon and cap wise, we'll have to try to figure it out like what happens cap wise between Zeitler between Vernon. I'm not sure what it does. But yet an offensive lineman. That's not bad. At least you're helping fill a whole which is one of the goals that they have improving this offensive line. Even though in the second half of last year. He played a lot better specific lilacs out of the line lot better soldier played a lot Hernandez. So that's the deal. You know, what I liked that deal from John? Yeah. No. It's good deal compliment. They've gotta lender you go they go. Well, maybe you right. He's starting to just move on from gay. I think he is do you think they'll draft Haskins or not I have let me guess. I'm gonna go with Dell. Okay. Will I me, but I will say you bet you may be right now this puts more of an emphasis on going out and getting a pass rusher. Because alleviate Vernon was their best pass rusher when he was out there. And I think the Tino's assessment of them has been fair, which is he's more of a Robin than a Batman. Yes. Which by the way, he could be in Cleveland. Yes, he yes. He can. And so then I get it. So we've bringing an offensive lineman and losing your only semblance of a pass rusher. It just puts more of a premium on the fact they can look for a pass rusher. Which is a part of why I don't think they're gonna take a quarterback. I think they're going to continue. And remember the top of the draft features. A lot of guys can get to the quarterback, whatever at six. I mean, you know, I mean, I don't know. All the big guys. You gotta figure we're going to be gone. Even if Kyle Murray goes wanted a cardinal. Yeah. I figure with Zeitler because he's a guard. He's just going to replace he's gonna play right guard for this team. So now, you've got Hernandez at left guard that you so listen about sold or a left tackle bringing a real solid veteran place air right to play south appeal. Yeah. Coming off that injury. Right. So from one aspect of the team, you gotta feel better about and that's improving the offensive line. But again, puts more of a premium on finding a pass rush. He's got a lot of work to do. There's a lot of holes on this team tons. But the the question that you ask what they should do. They should go get a quarterback. I if I had to bet though, you're asked me what I think they're going to do I'm gonna lean towards no until they do it understand until stands. I see it happen. I don't know. So there you go giants make it a deal Olivier Vernon for Kevin Zeitler the guard of the Cleveland Browns. Let's go to Allan parameters Hayao a Joa, Tom, Seaver course, degraded met and should be statue. Maybe you guys can help me out with something. Did he ever come back at some type of advisor? And the reason I'm asking that. I remember him trying to like bring pictures along at one time, and they pretty much wrote him off as though, you know, we we don't, you know, we don't have to listen to you who are you. You know, maybe I'm mistaken. But you guys you remember that at all I don't I don't remember it being a consultant to the Mets. Well, then it had been when they brought him back. What year did they bring him back at eighty eighty three eighty three? Now that was the one year he pitched for one year for thirty three. Right. And what pictures were on the team at that? Hurry. Because if I recall in unlike Lang low percent sure that he helped pitchers out. And I remember thinking at that time they pretty much what you're calling is. Your time is patch. We don't have to listen that the pitchers were saying. Yeah. The pitchers on the team down three. It was actually a lot of veterans. Mike Torres was on that team. Lynch was on that team which wall tarot Walter swan. Those are the starting pitching staff and you had a relatively young Jesse Roscoe at a tremendous season out of the bullpen. Did put up some games to what he was like thirty games on it. Make any starts at thirteen games out of the bullpen more than anybody on the tier fever one nine Torres one ten Lynch one ten a Roscoe one thirteen and seven with a one four seventy. Was was George Bamberger started the season ending Frank Howard took over as manager. Then he. Yup. Bamberger started sixteen thirty and then Frank Howard overnight was ninety four games in the following year. The turnaround was on Davey Johnson. Yup. Here we go nine one nine thousand eight year. Indeed, we'll come back with more your calls. More on the giant trade Olivier Vernon to the Cleveland Browns for guard. Kevin Zeitler, and we'll get your calls on it. We'll talk Gary Cohn a little bit later on. But if you're like me you like making some basketball and hockey games at tad more. Interesting would you can do with the fan sports book app? Now, the futures that's always fun to look at. We were going through a few of them yesterday on who's gonna win the NFL east who's gonna win the AL east who's going to win the MVP the league which right now has to the Koumba was the favourite. I'd vote for him. I still think though James harden is probably gonna win this thing. 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"george bamberger" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"Whatever happened, to, learning how, to, pitch off of mound John is Here's a good, one flat-footed, throwing. Flat-footed throwing, I dunno Rick will agree with me, on this but flat-footed throwing should never take the place of your. Mountain work going downhill to a catcher. Are, flat-footed well we, did flat but. It's running it was only the. Play catch and now from what, I'm hearing some of the some people in Rick knows more about the doctors and I do some people are saying that flat-footed throwing is actually harder on you on your arm than getting on, a mountain going downhill to. A catcher here's John and Bachar for, Rick Peterson Leo Mazzone on. WFAN John. Good morning thanks for. Your call Hey guys listen Rick thank you so, much for what you did. With the Nazi father semi really memorable, moments like pitching staff and. All and. Thanks for that but Oh man. I have to tell you you you get a great job handling that rave staff I lack, of injuries, Ueno specially something now and every, day it really amazing stuff and you know you're in a unique position to, kind of look, at this historically and, say you know going forward, starting with the youth but really with the, major leaguers what's. Your recommendation as far as you? Know, first, of, all. What they're doing wrong and Secondly kind of encapsulating you know what you did with your guys that Klay today would, that still be affected. Today Oh there's no question about it and she'll be affected but I think too many people have gotten, caught up in in the the analytical way to attack a hitter, types of, ways you're supposed to throw in between starch, we basically use commonsense I mean we, and, it would work again today where the guys through more. Often in, between, stars but they. Through with, less, exertion? To? Get more feeling touch on the ball we had a program for our relievers if? They didn't, go, more than two days without. Warming up or getting. In and. We will have a little, session before, the game like five to seven minutes session? Spinning the ball spin rate which Rick and I've known for thirty years now it's something big but anyway just spending. The, ball, and in one time one of, the front office people said hey you got your, reliever down there thrown before the game I said yeah a little bit he goes. Well what what what if he has to get into what is he has to get into, game I, said well that's what we're preparing, for we're preparing for tonight start. For tonight's outing I should say I said, because what do, you want me to, do sit down on the, air for a week and not throw off, amount or if. He's not warming up or not Getting in then then no on a lot longer so you always had three or four pitchers and Rick and tell. You this they always complaining that they weren't getting enough work I don't think any relievers gonna complain about that anymore, but and we never talked about a lot of the if a guy if a guy was the guy was down, two miles an hour who cared so you down two miles an, hour while, we cared about was wherever he was was, he locating the pitch that he selected, and, you wanted to make darn sure that he was not. Trying to, reach, back to get. That extra, two, miles? An? Hour because then you're you're asking for trouble Jerry in Brooklyn for Rick Peterson Leo? Mazzone on, Ed, Randall's talking baseball on the. Fan hi Jerry good. Morning good. Morning get someone once wrote, I baseball, brings out the ten year old boy that? I always hope will be a part of me that's a game I don't recognize too much anymore I just wanted Oh I. Just, wanna. Say Leo. It seems. Like yesterday I look. In a weekly newspaper at the end of the year with the stats glavin smoke Matic city all had. Pitched two hundred. Innings you didn't need a bullpen. Back then and I'm sorry she did but. You know what I need Boyd today what they picture you know you talk about hot froze George. Bamberger was a big coach great Yep that's believe keeping his off pace mixing speeds up Maddox never throw more than ninety miles an hour eighty. Seven eighty eight miles. An hour glass knew how to. Go in and. Out. With, day will they were really..
"george bamberger" Discussed on KDWN 720AM
"A six man rotation if they do wanna use starters it wouldn't surprise me to see him going to a six man rotation and i you know i think it's just i'm a purist as much as anybody i'm sixty two years old i've loved the game since i was just a little tyke things change and things move along and the sciences just gotten so much more precise and so much more involved and so much more a part of the game the we're understanding more what it does to a pitcher's body when he has to go out there and do this very unnatural thing propelling an object at that kind of speaks for that long time us larry sorenson and we'll be able to follow him on these wake forest broadcasts larry with one are explain your parents was at a special spelling barrett's man i was gonna say i've i've got a sister judith j u d y the we used to call her judy the but we all had to have seven letters in our first name so didn't know it's an easy story i had a stepbrother and stepsister that have four letters in their name by sister lynn have four letters my parents liked the name larry but they didn't want me to be different so they took one hour out and it's made me different my entire life there you got that is grain because i had to do a double take and make sure i wasn't screwing it up when i was putting your twitter handle there and then when i saw and i got that correct and i had to go back and take one of the ours out as far as your name right next to your picture there larry sorenson but hey a long career in the big leagues despite maybe overworking your arm early on because you dead have thirty three complete games your first couple of years or whatever it was i mean back in the day i remember i mean guys like dirk and seaver and these guys go in so many complete games i mean larry dirk would kill you if you came out in the eighth inning to try and pull them out in a in a one one game or something like that i mean the mentality was just so different as it is today and i mean you got the the setup setup guy the setup guy in the closer do you think he would have enjoyed it pitching in this era more so because of the less taxing on the arm or do you did you like it the way it was having a chance to control your own destiny without having to rely on anybody in the bullpen well i liked it that way but as you said it was just a much different area plus plus we didn't really have anybody in the bullpen you know what i got traded i traded from milwaukee to st louis in a seven player trade and rollie fingers part of the deal going to milwaukee from saint louis rollie fingers people commission ted simmons for four was brewer players and you know that was the first time they really have anybody that was a legitimate closer in the bullpen and milwaukee went to the world series right after that as soon as they got rollie fingers and of course in saint louis bruce suitor by got traded after the eightyone season today to milwaukee in saint louis where in the world series and i was in cleveland milwaukee saint louis cleveland oakland the chicago cubs moray all at little jerry park in san francisco giants which city was your favorite to plan lewis was unbelievable whitey herzog was far and away the best vantage or that i ever played for he would do with magic markers and lined paper what two guys and two computers do these days he was just incredible he was so far ahead of the game and i learned an awful lot of baseball the walkie was great because we kind of turned the entire state around you know everybody used to come out and tailgate out in the parking lot before the games and george bamberger manager would waddell out there in his uniform during batting practice and walk up and down the rows shaking hands with people during bp so it was an electric town chicago of course wrigley field you can't say enough great things about.
"george bamberger" Discussed on AM 970 The Answer
"Two if you're game also you can email the show it is dino am nine seventy at gmailcom that's am nine seventy at gmailcom go back to that thousand nine hundred baseball season and tell me who the managers were in one thousand nine hundred earl weaver was managing the baltimore orioles right we know that okay who was managing the milwaukee brewers i i think it was buck rogers and george bamberger in one thousand nine hundred if memory holtz and i'm just thinking about the american league east right now is sparky anderson was at the helm of the detroit tigers the red sox in one thousand nine hundred eighty were skippered by don zimmer the indians in nineteen eighty were skippered by two guys i believe torbert org was jeff tour borg was the manager to start the season i think he was replaced by david garcia halfway through the season that year the toronto blue jays in one thousand nine hundred eighty were managed by bobby matic and the yankees in nineteen eighty were managed by all season long he made it the whole way was fired after the season one hundred and three games if you remember dick howser was the manager of the yankees in one thousand nine hundred now all of the names i just gave you this is just the american league east i'm talking about here all of the managers i just mentioned to you not one of them i don't believe what profile in today's game to lead to manage a major league team now when you think about that and you think of the absurdity of the fact that weaver would never be able to manage in today's major league environment right dave garcia would not be able to manage in today's major league environment right all these guys and then what's the common thread with all these guys all these guys played the game coach the game played for years in the minor leagues managed in the minor leagues played in the minor leagues had at least a cup of coffee in the major leagues most most all of them and yet none of these guys would profile to manage in today's major league baseball community and that is a huge problem so far as i can surmise i think it's a it's a huge problem i don't i don't see it changing anytime soon either i'll tell you that i think this is something that's gonna continue you're gonna continue to see nameless faceless preprogramed that robots see mannequins that are at the helm major league dugouts bob klapisch the very fine baseball columnist on with me weeks and weeks ago and we talked a little bit about this and clapper said to me well you know the parameters have changed the job duties have changed now one of the primary considerations in terms of teams naming managers are their ability to relate to the media because essentially a major league manager is doing to television press conferences every day now one before the game one after the game how they project on tv how they speak how they articulate their message is probably more important right now for major league baseball as far as the franchise owners and the general managers in the front office is concerned then how much baseball knowledge these guys have or how they can manage your game and navigate their way through a nine inning ballgame in one thousand nine hundred eighty jim fly was the manager of the kansas city royals i mean you wanna talk about a died in the wall nuts and bolts baseball guy.
"george bamberger" Discussed on 710 WOR
"The mets lose today this will be their fourteenth consecutive series in which they have not won it's the longest winless series streak for the match since nineteen eighty two when the mets went from july second through september first without pulling off a series win a span of eighteen consecutive series the nineteen eighty two mets lost ninety seven games under george bamberger in his only full season as the team's manager pamper ghur was removed from his post midway through nineteen eightythree when frank howard finished that season before david johnson took over for nineteen eightyfour it's time to take a driver on the majors with national car rental go national go like a pro three of the count with nobody out ready and not going in the pitches swung on a five all feel back on it as bradley's at the track he's right to the wall he will turn and watch and it's gone and stephen piscotty been it out and the is in the eleventh inning of taking a five to three lead do you believe that late magic once again for the green and gold why did day for the green and gold quite a few weeks for the as you have won fifteen of their last nineteen they are nine games above five hundred and a win today will get them ten over for the first time since the end of the two thousand fourteen season as the as knocked off the indians in eleven innings yesterday six to three it was in the late innings when oakland had to come back they scored three runs in the eighth inning before their three run eleven as the as have scored the winning run in the eighth inning or later in nine of their last nineteen wins this is how it's been going for oakland as they try to get closer in an american league wild card race that seems set for two teams right now whoever loses the al and whoever loses the al west but the as are six and a half games behind the mariners for the second wildcard spot in the american league the only team reasonably close to seattle right now in that aol postseason racist kent korac had the call g gmc this date admits history brought to you by new york community bank and the nyc be family of banks making history in new york.
"george bamberger" Discussed on WGN Radio
"Outside corner don't everybody right in you could throw into left these gosar using both sides of home plate you learned that time just doesn't materialize overnight you learn that he knows what he's doing to an extent now he's gonna find out how you pitch a big lakes you know guys call pitching the contact i never thought about that when i try to do just keep the ball down and throw strikes in my mind i said you don't swing it this strike one swing at this destroy to where did i get the strike three i was taught how to pitch and i think cooper does a great job with the white sox but what i learned how pitch george bamberger baltimore wait nine pictures on the staff there one year nine at four guys in nineteen seventy one to win twenty games they all want him at the expense of cleveland indians nineteen seventy one the orioles that's a long time ago what i'd like to see is more running for the pitchers because we conditioned number six pitchers but will use the pitch count now to get them out of the game or the courts i think there are a lot of managers or their sales pitch count reached ninety years ago pitch count they didn't care about that utah hundred forty or fifty pitches nine inning game additional little differently than what they're now they're bigger and stronger now but for me it's always the legs of the pitching the mind certainly we'll take you there but you get tired from the ground up your legs get tired i it's not your arm talking about that to you and dj talk a lot about that during the sox games this year that it's we don't below you know from your lower half your torso is where you'll find your.
"george bamberger" Discussed on WTMJ 620
"I think what had happened he came in trying to decide on how you want to use had problems at pitching in milwaukee and at home is not as good as it is under role but not only that he has struggled early in games in the locker and that's what caused the problem how what was going to be his approach so he came to speed train trying to decide what he was doing he struggled early in spring training with that but then all of a sudden at the end after he went through the episode with a little bit of a injury setback and get back a little bit different approach and really is sorta ball well and i think the one thing about jack davies she has an excellent understanding of what you have to do to be a major league pitcher he knows you have to go be strong early in the ball game i think it's just a matter of begin being able to command a strike somebody's fastball and then using that good breaking ball in and change up that he does have a special day maybe for the guy guys who weren't with the brewers last year how special days opening day you know many i got the pitcher in nineteen seventy i got pitch opening day and men milwaukee against orioles and george bamberger come over from the orioles to be our manager and i'll tell you what if there's a lot of memories that you have in a game of baseball none get better than opening day it's a special day for the fans it's a special day for the players and at home it's even more special and there's just something special bob milwaukee that you think back in in i can remember today i could tell you who pitched a hallway went who i hall far i went i know i one eight thirty i gave all run i was up i had a shutout going to give them a home run to eddie murray those are things that stick with you that's how special those days are in special because milwaukee's makes makes it even more special so project abc's really looking forward to it he considers it an honor i talked to.
"george bamberger" Discussed on AM 970 The Answer
"The the first couple of seasons he was in a in a tigers uniform and as he was excelling in detroit all the while the mets the mets franchise was slowly deteriorating with an ownership group that at the time ran that organization into the ground and rusty's in detroit's and then he makes a return trip to montreal for a short period of time and then onto the texas rangers for a brief time and yeah the thing i was thinking about in the thing that i always used to talk with people about was that no matter where rusty was after the mets traded him after they got rid of them foolishly dealt to the detroit tigers no matter if rusty was an a tigers uniform or if he was an expos uniform or if he wasn't a texas rangers uniform mets fans they always felt as though rusty was still a met and of course then later you know just like i guess a few other big names that eventually made their way back to shea stadium be at tom seaver or dave kingman or i don't know you you wanna throw of someone like he'll be brooks and there may be a few others rusty to eventually made his way back as well to to big shea and he he played his his final five years in a in a mets uniform and when he came back the he was there for the beginning of the rebuild when he came back in one thousand nine hundred one is the first manager when he came back to the mets was joe tori and then he labored through the lean years of george bamberger and then for a brief stint you know it was the frank howard and he didn't play much she was an off the bench guy at this point in his career primarily for the most part and you know he'd get a start at first base sometimes but not very often and sometimes in right field and you remember during that eighty three season rusty had that amazing streak of eight consecutive consecutive trips to the plate and eight consecutive pinch hits and during the year he accumulated twentyfive rbi's as a pinch hitter that year back in one thousand nine hundred three and that was pretty amazing stuff and i couldn't help but to think about something else today with with the passing of rusty from more of a.
"george bamberger" Discussed on WTMJ 620
"Of that use and it's kind of a commute any gathering place and i i think you feel walk he can get to that you will be a huge deal i feel really old because i remember well you know in 1988 when the bradley center was opening and we thought that was the be all of that at all and now it's it's going to be torn down once this new facilities set to go but i think it's a great thing for milwaukee i'm glad that they were able to secure it because i don't think the bucks would have stayed long term without a new facility so i i think it's a great thing for the community and not just for milwaukee i think for the state spectrum sports director denis crowds our guest on the play by play brought a podcast dennis let's move on to the brewers really quick there in the middle of a rebuilding project yet there were actually in the middle of a pennant race uh or at least for the division championship how how surprised there you with them a very surprised at a i go back to um thinking about in all of brewers history what have been most pleasant surprising seasons and and i go back to like 1978 were george bamberger was hired bolivar came up they they signed larry heissel as the free agent at a lot of good things that happened in seventy eight and kind of bolted the brewers from a losing irrelevant franchising to a contender in the american league east even though they did with if there had been a wild card to those days uh that would have been a good thing for them but what i bring that up four is i can't think of another season besides that one that has been s biggest supplies and i don't think this year's team has the talent that one dead so i i give a.
"george bamberger" Discussed on WTMJ 620
"For the state spectrum sports director denis crowds use our guest on the play by play brought a podcast dennis let's move on to the brewers really quick there are in the middle of a rebuilding project yet there were actually in the middle of a pennant race uh or at least for the division championship how surprised there you with them a very surprised and i go back to um thinking about it all brewers history what have been both pleasant surprising seasons and i go back to like 1978 were george bamberger was hired bolivar came up they they signed larry heissel as a free agent at a lot of good things that happen in seventy eight and kind of bolted the brewers from a losing irrelevant franchise into a contender in the american league east even though they did win if there had been a wild card to those days uh that would have been a good thing for them but what have great that up four is i can't think of another season beside that one that has been at biggest supplies and i don't think this year's team has the talent that would ditch so i i give a lot of credit to david stern's have craig counsel for austria again this season despite as you say correct really that's still being an eight year to of a rebuilt now did they take advantage of the cubs kind of not finding their way for a long time although it looks like they've right rated the ship now have the taken advantage of of the cardinals having a down year for them yes they have but if the brewers credit because when you look at stern's track record whether it's saved deserve shaw uh he's base them hyper senate of quality moves yet you know they're couple of young general managers now in this town the bucks have one is well the that uh you know i i think there's great promise your these guys think a different way from uh their predecessors it seems to me yeah you're exactly right i mean you're talking about john horst with the bob yet uh and and david stern's with the brewers i used to be uh you we've been around long enough to think of.
"george bamberger" Discussed on WTMJ 620
"For the state spectrum sports director denis crowds he's our guest on the play by play brought a podcast dennis let's move on to the brewers really quick there in the middle of a rebuilding project yet there actually in the middle of a pennant race uh or at least for the division championship how how surprised there you without a very soon price and i go back to um thinking about it all the brewers history what have been both pleasant surprising ceases and i go back to like 1978 were george bamberger was hired bader came up they they signed larry heissel as a free agent at a lot of good things happened inside seventy eight and kind of bolted the brewers from a losing irrelevant franchise into a contender in the american league east even though they did win if there'd been a card to those days uh that would have been a good thing for them but what i bring that up four is i can't think of another season besides that one that has been as big a surprise and i don't think this year's team has the talent that one dead so i i give a lot of credit to david stern's had craig counsel for ushering in this season despite as you say correct early then still being an eight year to of a rebuild now that they take advantage of the cubs kind of not finding their way for a long time although it looks like they've right rated the ship now have they taken advantage of of the cardinals having a down your four them yes they have bought the brewers credit because you look at stern's track record whether it's saves or shaw uh he he's bates a high percentage of quality moves yet you know they're couple of young general managers now in this town near the bucks have one is well that that uh you know i i think there's greek promise your these guys think a different way from the their predecessors it seems to me the i you're exactly right i mean you're talking about john horst with the buck the up uh and david stern's with the brewers i used to be uh you we've been around long enough to think of.
"george bamberger" Discussed on WTMJ 620
"But i think it's a great thing for milwaukee on glad that they were able to secure it because i don't take the bucks would have stayed longterm without a new facility so i i think it's a great thing for the can did he had not just for milwaukee i think for the state spectrum sports director denis crowds he's our guest on the play by play brought a podcast dennis let's move on to the brewers really quick there in the middle of a rebuilding project yet there were actually in the middle of a pennant race or at least for the division championship how surprise there you with them very very surprised in i go back to um thinking about it all of brewers history what have been most pleasant surprising seasons and i go back to like 1978 were george bamberger was hired molitor came up they they signed larry heissel as a free agent at a lot of good things happen in seventy eight antenna faulted the brewers from a losing irrelevant franchise into a contender in the american league east even though they did win if there'd been a wildcard in those days uh that would have been a good thing for them but what i bring that up four is i can't think of another season besides that one that has been at the biggest supplies and i don't think this year's team has the talent that one day at so i i give a lot of credit to david stern's had craig counsel for austria again this season despite as you say correct klay then still being an endyear to of a rebuild doubt that they take advantage of the cubs kind of not finding their way for a long time although it looks like they've right rated the ship now have the taken advantage of of the cardinals having a down your four them yes they have but you have the guerrillas credit because you look at stern's track record whether it's sane missouri shaw uh he he's bates some hyper senate of quality moves yet you know they're a couple of young general managers now in this town the bucks have one is well that that uh you know i i think this great progress your these guys think a different way from their predecessors it seems to me the i.
"george bamberger" Discussed on 710 WOR
"Watching the game on a war whatever used to be on channel nine these to give you the truth know yeah exactly right but i'm even dating back to when i was a kid watching it always has intrigued even to this day now when you get at them i mean as i got a little bit older some of them it depends pens it if it's in your will how i bet midnineties late ninety's match you probably euro over that and then if it's the you know george bamberger is the answer i mean of course i would say from maybe from even the mid eighty's chill about it's all about two thousand two maybe i probably say was my wheelhouse and elsewhere will get back into the match equate kershaw had an interesting day yesterday in cincinnati will tell you about that a little bit later but tiger woods of course recently arrested on suspicion of du i put out a statement just a little while ago on twitter saying i'm currently receiving professional help to manage by medications in the way that i deal with back pain and his sleep disorder i want to thank everyone for the amazing outpouring of support and understanding especially the fans and players on tour if if you remember tiger woods dui and then you know the reports worry is blood alcohol content with zero point zero and he had to take strong painkillers for the back issues that he's having and you're not just the way it's worded receiving professional help they give gni dea of you know what tiger woods is is dealing with their you know related to those painkiller i mean i i think you read that statement he kinda feel bad for tiger whatever side of the fence you war on in his you know whether you love tiger whether you don't why tiger i think our producer kersee brought up an excellent point about him doing it after the us open is been played to a takes away or doesn't take away from the tangible gino tiger whatever he does this huge news so i like that he waited 'til.