6 Episode results for "General Krulak"
Importance of Integrity in a Leader
"Welcome to veteran on the move. If you're a veteran in transition and entrepreneur wannabe poor someone still stuck at the GOP trying to escape this. Podcast is dedicated to your success. And now your host job bring have you checked out. American forces travel yet. American forces travel is an exclusive website powered by priceline bill for veterans and active duty. Check them out at veteran the move dot com slash travel talking with retirement core general. Tom Drowsy call sign sage. So sage next topic would like to cover is the importance of integrity in a leader. Yeah I I guess This really hit me again going back to my days as a as a Midshipman one more instructors was a marine and always a Korean War veteran might have been World War Two veteran as well but in any event as one of those times when when the instructor can kind of get off subject to talk about what we were there for which was to go out as a second lieutenants are insincere and lead sailors marines and his words were still with me and he said some of those who choose to come in the Marine Corps may find yourself in a situation where you're giving orders that will cause the men that you're leading to die and it isn't asking too much of you that they perceive you to be a man of integrity and just hit me and I thought you know that's yeah they make and then later in combat. I thought John I'm on orders from from other people. Do I consider them to be men of integrity and is just? It can't be a thing of well. I don't think your personal tech you're not going to carry out your order but it certainly makes it eat that easier to say. I'm willing to put my life on the line because I believe that. This leader is a person of integrity and so that always stayed with me so in a talk given on leadership about Would lead should be. I say that they should be leaders of morality as well as integrity and the question comes up. What was the difference between Morality and integrity? And then I asked the question. What do you think get different answers? And I said well let me share with you. A book called Rushworth kidder. Called how good people make tough decisions and his position is that morality is a choice between right and wrong. Good and bad Con Easy to distinguish sometimes difficult to carry out. The you know the right thing but it's you know black white you know find you know. There's a line between the two. The challenges that ethics is a choice between right and right and all you get puzzled. Looks right and right. How can you have a choice between right? And he said well think about this Kidder said that It's life. We have a kind of a constant ethical dilemma in four different areas and those areas are justice versus mercy honesty versus loyalty short-term benefit versus long-term benefit the good of the individual versus the good of the group on each one of those were comparing or having to choose between not right and wrong but right and right and that's what makes it so difficult. It's the ethical dilemma. Because whatever right that you choose the back of your mind is the fact that you rejected another right. So did you choose the the correct writer and I assure fans on you know honesty versus loyalty. You know how many of us have ever been in that situation class classmate loyalty you know you. Don't rat on a friend and all those things but but ours were supposed to also be pupil. Honesty of honor Justice versus mercy. How many of your parents nominee have run up against that of of ensuring that your child goes up to be a person of integrity But understands that there's got to be justice but to do so without breaking the spirit or will that child says got to be the mercy part of that as well and then the long term versus short term. You know we understand that. And then of course the good of the vendor vigil versus the good of the Group. All of these are rights. They all begin our start with the you know the good of the benefit of So that's that's the challenge. How do you get that? You know that's not. Don't you through training? That's done through education. That's done through the way we were raised. You know what's Okay and what's not. Okay it's reinforced by the culture. In which relocated Marine Corps culture has motto Semper Fidelis. Semper always not when I get around to it or one is when is okay or when you know. It's it's convenient it's always. It's the basis for any relationship of of permanence and then fidelity faithful honest loyal. All of those things that are necessary that We want I said the dollar is a term. We don't use much these days but during the past it was a fairly common term. In fact we used to name our dogs. Fido rid of fidelity fight on the that the loving caring that the companion that that faithful Loyal the being that we have with US final and then remind people that know cat has ever been named. Fido which is kind of apology to cat. Lovers cut up. But that's the the idea that you have these challenges and to be a person integrity means that you you make the right call and the desk developed through education through the things that we read the culture in which the people that we stronger sauce with. Are you surrounded by people that that you see also people of Integrity? That that you're comfortable with that you know are going to make the right call on it you. You would not feel ashamed to say. Gee I made this call because You know I just thought that was not not that big a deal. I mean all. These things are necessary in the development of leaders and But especially that role of integrity. Who wants to follow a person without integrity? You know what are the value of his or her decisions that are going to cause us to put our lives on the line and so the leader just has to have integrity and in my mind absolutely. It's a good stopping. We're GONNA take a quick break Quebec. If you've got business travel coming up vacation time or going on leave. Now's the time to make your reservations for Spring and summer travel with American forces. Travel serving you in helping your military family. American forces travel is an exclusive website and a deity partnership with priceline powered by priceline and built for veterans and active duty. American forces. Travel can save you money on flights. Cars and hotels support your branch of military at the same time. 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Dogs are and how grateful that God made them in that that the dog chose to be on on our side of the hugh the split between animals and humans absolutely so what other Do you have some examples of tough decisions that you may you've made in your life in regards to write versus rate? I'll I'll share with you. An example of of one that Things kind of emergency. I was at headquarters. Marine Corps Got A call from General Krulak my dearest friend and he had this situation he said this is a heck of a story. The story goes back to World War. Two and there's an Irish lad from Chicago was in the army when off to to England in preparation for the the big invasion and fall in love with the IRS girl and The Gut Murray conceived a child he went off and fought came back. The marriage Fell apart so they got divorced and he came back to Chicago in one thousand nine hundred sixty six the mother because of the troubles that are taking place in an Ireland context. Father and says listen on this kind of dangerous spotter. Would you mind if we sent our son To live with you at Chicago and the father said sure no problem so the sun shows up kicks around for a while gets bored and decides to join the Marine Corps nineteen sixty six. If you joined the Marine Corps. There was one place that you could be fairly certain you're going to go. And that was Vietnam Right. So he's about to ship out and he says Gee I probably ought to call my mother and told her about this Hide and listen. I I got kind of bored. Here's Soy Joined the Marine Corps. She said you what I didn't send you the United States. You could join the Marine Corps and go into into dangerous situation. You get your little Irish but backyard. Harlan immediately and so he does he. He deserts background so and is now she would assist about nineteen ninety one or so maybe a ninety two and There's a wedding in Chicago. They're going to fight. All the relatives. Include this individual. Who's no ma'am issues up in immigration and a pops up deserter. So they take him away and change to the dude adjudicator whose General Krulak in Quantico. So they bring him in and and is he's bad shaven so generally calls me and says what do you think about this? Is that the Guzman Bad Chevy said a couple of heart attacks. He's not survive prisoners of but my lawyer just saying I got hammered the sky. You've got a standard example for for the rest of the ring card is I'm Kinda Kinda wondering you know. What what do you think about this and joy swear to God? That immediately in my mind was a palm not a poem but a Soliloquy that sister Marilyn my freshman year in high school made us memorize in was from the merchant of Venice and it was with Porsche's saying the quality of mercy is not strained it dropped with as a gentle rain from heaven upon the place beneath it is twice blessed to bless him. Give him receive it and so I just recited from memory is said to collect that. That's that's my said. Okay right all that down for me said to me so so now comes the day that In General Krulak was the communist system. Right no no. At this time he was so. Cg EVOLVE MC SIDDIQ. Down there so Voter education over I guess older deserters but So he has the guy come in here. It's got the guards performances. First of all take the shackles off. This and then he turns the Guy said this ends today. This will never admit got home. I was going to happen and he said. Let me read to you something then. My dearest friends sent me and he read the Soliloquy. The quality of mercy is not strained and so he finishes and he said it's over. I'm excusing you of everything you'll never face this again. But there's one requirement and the guy says. Oh God yeah whatever. I'll do whatever you want. General you said in the future you're going to have an opportunity to exercise either Justice or mercy and I can tell you to consider mercy in decision and I said well absolutely so you let him go off to goes to the wedding back to her. That Christmas general crew has done him and he said I gotTa show you this card and is trump this individual from back in Arlon. He said General. Thank you again for your kindness and so forth since our meeting. I have had a number of occasions to choose between justice and mercy. And thanks to you. I always chosen marquette down on the side of the mercy and have never regretted it. I hope that you have not regretted the fact that you showed mercy for me. So Joe you just never know when one of your teachers making you memorize them a portion of Shakespeare the May come in handy but in that case it came in handy for that individual as General Krulak Qetta choose between justice and mercy. Well that's incredible well. I don't think we could end in episode any better than that. Well to thank you. You know we have all of these opportunities in life to to do the right thing to reach back and say gee what what is what is right and proper here and hopefully that in reaching back. We're reaching back into a bag that has lots of integrity involved in it. The we we ended up making the the the right choice. Well that's awesome Russia. I appreciate you sharing those words of wisdom and phenomenal story with his. So that wraps up this episode and we'll be back Be Back with another one soon. So until then these two veterans or Oscar Mike vetted on the move your pathfinder to freedom if you like to show leave us a review. Kids reviews are always greatly appreciated so until next time. This veteran is Oscar Mike.
ZBT #145: Customs & Courtesies
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So they brought a bunch of the Philly people down for the game along spent chocolates guys, I got Astra. It I will say once you're back in your home area. And you're feel uncomfortable meeting up the volt friends going out and about, but yeah, it was a really good time. Always really interesting to wake up the next morning because I go to bed at like ten thirty eleven to wake up and see what's going on Cates. Instagram stores. One more Nisha as you go along. Called Bob in Barbara's that I love it's near center city and its half drag show bar half jazz far. Closing says these guys playing jazz fronts, real low key. And then like the bathroom attendant is like the seven foot lady now whose coterie up hurry. Like. All right. All right. Just seem. You seem to enjoy those interesting combos evident by the sandwich that you posted to stuff at writing chaps phase, you got basically ratio on Twitter for that fucking. Did I put horseradish on my nipple sandwiches? Get off me hate. It wasn't just forthright as it was a whole smorgasbord vinegar oil vinegar lettuce pickles horseradish sauce extra spaghetti sauce, meatballs American cheese salt pepper, and I think oregano and parliament American cheese on Meatball too. Yeah. Podcast. But my goodness gracious. Wicked. My weekend was lovely nothing of note. Other than the mention that I was twenty five again playing flip Cup in someone's apartment on Saturday night. Don't ask me why. Yeah. Woke up I saw yours to and I felt sad for both. You guys. This is my weekend because I had a crazy good daddy daughter weekend. You're gonna have to tune into pot bothers all leave that for the podfather show because it was a big time. There you see that bread. That was fucking natural crossover will have promotion of by me. That was nice. Let's get into it. Because Friday before the weekend started I actually went to Lackland, and I was still near at appointment at the doctors that was take place at like, eleven o'clock. I was parked there for a while just listening to podcast radio or whatever. And I see this. Lieutenant Colonel get out of the vehicle in front of me in he walks across the street, and I'm watching him walk in and I just pity his life because once you get to be I think tenant Colonel in above the odds somebody is going to salute you every time they pass is probably around ninety five percent. Once your Lieutenant Colonel. 'cause you're just going in anybody below that grade majors blow on the officer side and then ever single enlisted person every single warrant officer has to salute you that would be terrible. I would get out of the military just for that. I had a I had Lieutenant whenever I was in Okinawa as Lieutenant Jensen real name second. Lieutenant he was a former. Gun resurgent. So he crossed over to the officer side, and he would get so tired of saluting just when we were doing training together that he would take his cover throat across the field instead of saluting. He would just start clicking his heels together. Like he was fucking Dorothy from wizard of us. And he was like is just so much easier. He's like he would just if he was out with a bunch of marines. He just take off his blouse. So it could be news without a cover on in the just get rid of it. And he was like this is how I just roll outside. Go everywhere. Use them so tired of saluting cons you or Saluter? Did you ever get sick of it? A little bit. Yeah. Definitely does get a little ridiculous. Because I mean, even as as low as captain, I mean, it was rare that I would run into people who outranked me most of the time we run into people. It's it's it's listed, and it's it's lower officers. Just because it's like a pyramid. As you. Go up in rank there's there's less people around. And if you void certain areas, you're just not gonna run majors within colonels. So yeah. Yep. You're three to five you're just gonna be saluting all damn day. And it's nice, whatever. But for the most part it gets tiring. I mean you or the type of race you get lost in your world a lot we see that a lot on the different shows that you do with that happened with Ugo. And then you have to like bust out salute row quick. I'll once I was at fort Leonard blood, and I was walking. I just come back from like, they're seven eleven Bodega type store. Good the plastic bag at my right hand and this army talking by and so I just salute with my left not. He was like, oh, your marine. So you think you can just suck and disrespect you can just respect. And I was like, I'm just stupid. I he was Lieutenant and he locked up if. Yeah, you got him. I'll tell you what man as Lieutenant. You can't be doing that. Like, if someone does something very agreed that maybe mentioned something, but to like chew out a little grocery bags. What am I being cocky Marie, and I thought that I was like better than 'cause I yeah. One of my favorite chesty puller stories is probably would've just laughed festive puller was a Colonel. He was outside. They just got back from Haiti. And this was the mission where he used to have all of his troops. Rub. Hogs oil all over their feet whenever it came back. All the junior troops were all like unloading all the vehicles. They were getting everything in order putting weapons up putting the gear up supplies away. And the second Lieutenant walked by working detail in one of the lance-corporals was out there doing work like he was actually getting on the. Second Lieutenant stopped the marine. Oh, we don't salute officers any more. And he was he was chewing his ass. Jesse puller saw from inside a building Jesse polar went outside in got the second time. It was like what's going on? Why are young this marine while he's doing his work? And he was like why needed teach them about customs courtesies while chesty puller said, you are absolutely right customer. Courtesies are the backbone of our military is like so what I want you to do is. I want you to go to that marine. I want him to Utah. Tell him to salute him a thousand times is going to salute. You a thousand times in the second is very well. Yes, served will do he's like, but you must remember that in custody, courtesy every time. He salutes. You must return the slow spell the sec. This second Lieutenant there, saluting each other back and forth. I wouldn't back and forth. And that's like the best because you're doing shit, man. Like have a little bit of like normalcy. Whenever you're down the staff, and that's what I love about the chesty puller stories that they're so good. You gotta have the wherewithal. I mean, there were definitely times if you're walking by in guys doing something, I wouldn't expect a slew just because it's doesn't make sense. Sometimes when you're going about your day, you know, just to go out of your way to find a group of guys to get a solution. That's kind of silly does with a lot of their responses that got on Twitter for a little bit of scuttle butt 'cause chaps asked this Susie BT on Twitter at Colonel JJ. Love said at least control the salutes. I'm retired six and gets looted every morning when I present my retiree ID card, even tried my CAC, but my department of defense ide- is the same. So when they scan it, I still get saluted Minnesotan tie. Just give them give them one back. But jeez awkward as fuck. No. It's like even in a suit and tie. This guy's like come on guys. Just leave me alone. On Patrick Murray. At the Pat Murray said saluting decals on cars, whoever thought that was a good idea. A good thing to be looking out for when crossing the street like you don't want to actually got rid of those couple of years ago at a, but I remember when I was in as like a young marine walking down the street like you had to squint your eyes. Like is that a blue cower redicscount ac- like across the street at some people that if you didn't salute them, they would be pissed like dude you're driving on the road. Why are you worried about me? And now fans who worked the gates would get so pissed when like some military spouses coming through and gets all indignant if you don't salute the sticker, and it's not even in the military, like some some there was a couple of cases where wives for like. Excuse me. I'm not pulling through until you salute that sticker with them out the officer in the car, it's like get outta here. This my anger some people, but of a military spouse, you do not carry the same rank as. Your your your significant other? That's in the military. So you can knock that stuff off right now. Oh, yeah. No, no. They can kick. They might there on the the version being being told to do such but. At the gate. I don't have a problem at the gate if you're actually looking at someone's idea. Okay. Got it. But yeah. I'm not like paying attention to cars when I'm walking on the sidewalk. So if MRs salute when a general's drive him by. Yes, sorry. And then if you care enough to pull over and then come to me out. I you know, that's a little much on my part. I mean for the most part, I enjoyed the customs and courtesies that we do in the military. I'm a big fan of tradition. But sometimes there are some salutes that we could do without there's another one this one actually made me laugh out loud. There's very rare times that I'm like looking at Twitter Instagram, but I actually laughed out loud. This has nothing to do with customs in courtesy at all. But Smit city. Okay. All said, I would call some very mean things at Parris island period didn't care for it. Get rid of the custom of means drill. Instructors disguise saying. So this is a good one. Kate. Do you remember the attention on deck speech? Oh, yeah. Dak but I remember having to do it. Yeah. I don't remember like what was there a speech that came with it? Yeah. You would say attention on a deck. Good morning. Good morning, gentlemen. Then you had announced who it was at Burke. I are serious commander Boba on deck morning, sir. And then everybody else would say good morning, sir. It's just like a course I, but I you kinda stop doing that. Unless it's a Colonel above whenever you're actually like in the fleet when actually in the Marine Corps, we had when our battalion commander would come into the office. When I was on was I she's me when I was on staff. They would call the entire office. Like, I was like a different room, and they would call the entire office to attention. You were supposed to stand your deck never mind that he couldn't see you just want to know. It was I was found that kind of odd that is that is weird another one that I super agreed with at Infantino said retirement ceremonies for somebody. You've never met. But they just needed bodies to make the ceremony look important. How many of these did you get volunteered to go to where you had no idea? Who was retiring you had to stand in the hot sun for like three hours, not including the practice. Not including the whatever. Just so it looks cool. Just other retirement ceremony looks cool. And it's it's so funny to see those from like the road whenever those are going around a different units like everything stops for that unit for this little retirement ceremony. But reality gives us ship. No. And when you're driving down the road, and you see all these crazy different formations. Go into those was terrible. But that's not really custody, courtesy either. Call a Bill into attention when the author walks in or like, a high level sergeant major something like that is I actually liked that rule. I think in that rules finding good I don't mind that what do you guys mind it? So what was you're saying with I didn't mind it, you know, for the the rooms and the folks that were in view of the officer walking in, but if I'm three rooms away, and there's halls and walls in between myself, and I came in see him when he walks in the door. I just always thought that was kind of silly. Well, that's that far for not even the you might as well just start doing it. Now just doing it off. It's like somebody's walking in somewheres walking, right? But otherwise, I agree with you chaps this one I think it gives it way different branches of service because our guy Eric Olsen said I've heard troops. Now have to greet senior NCO's buck that came. What are your thoughts on that have to greets haven't we always had to greet senior NCO's when was the last corP? I always greeted the corporal sergeant morning sergeant good morning corP. We actually had a sergeant who was kind of goofball who got an enormous goiter on his neck. So I was an NCO time to was huge. And we told all the lance-corporals behind his back that when you passed him you had to say good morning, gentlemen. Like, it was the goiter. Yeah. But we always did that. Good morning, gentlemen. That I I don't agree with our friend. Jesse Delaney said standing at attention for officers just make it parade rest for all. Let's not let everything just go to Helena Handbasket. Right. See you guys. I would never say that unless I'm getting my ass chewed. We don't stand it position of attention while you have a thing or two to learn that, I guess so ridiculous. You're not supposed to even speak like that's stupid. Well for having a conversation you go to Paret rest. Yeah. But when you know when I walk in the room and pre sheet, some respect, absolutely. This one is outrageous. And I hadn't even thought about this for a long time the cook serving meals officer wardrobe as their as they're fucking royalty. What is that is like, so, you know, like, you have officers mess in you have like the regulars and like so chiefs in above in the navy and east Xs in the Marine Corps to would go like have like several mess hall, basically whenever you're eating like on a ship at they would actually be served the officers go through in get their shit from like a receiving line. You will like you would at a they actually get their meals like brought to them. Okay. All right. I know I don't hate it. I'm reading about general Krulak right now than reading his foot for like a thousand years now, but he was one of the top military officers it during especially during the Vietnam war by that. He was the three star. But he liked to take off his rank and mix. Amongst the men of the child hall and get the vibe for morale. How was the food? What's going on like he was like very much in in that such bullshit? Like everybody knows. It's general crew can be wearing a fucking dildo on his head because he was five foot three. So he really. Same thing. Like whenever you have these the comment. Remember the comment released video doing like the CFC's like I just wanna get out here and be with the marines. It just be true to like one of the nobody's trading like your fucking regular when you have four stars on your collar. You don't have to even be wearing the collar. You could be wearing nothing. You could be. But asked naked everybody's still salute. You not to mention I mean, you've earned the right to not be treated that way. As if you're just some normal soldier, normal marine. Yeah. Bullets. Several days. Like, I feel like I think that you go about your normal business. There is this really it's like fucking kernels who do at the most with general level officers who are just all up on the generals dick because they want the next Bill and things like that. I almost a real up fresh story alert I'll throw up whenever I was at Lackland. We're doing this demonstration for the combat tracker dots combat tracker dogs get track people up two miles away. Even if they get in a car like because they pick up on. It was the section that. I was in charge of when I was like almost done my time at Lackland. So we had an air force general thick I'm pretty sure it was the chief of staff come out, and we were doing it. They wanted to see the demonstration even in the rain 'cause we were like all about like, we could do this if it's raining snowing wherever we can do this tracking demonstration. So the general wanted to come out and see it. It was raining. A colonel. Was holding an umbrella of the chief of staff head and when I saw it. I was just like you little bitch. Like, why would you do that all Gerald? Fuck it. Why do you even need an umbrella? First of all you're still in uniform sound like us in class as or some shit. He's still in uniform getting an umbrella health Orem. Date is a very this is like the third store you've told, of course of cvt or some sort of umbrella has triggered you. Yeah. Chapel never use an umbrella. That's dad is a big time promise that I'm willing to make to the listeners right now. If you see me, this is a make a monetary promise. If you see me out in the streets with an umbrella, I will VIN mo- you one thousand dollars. Wow, people are going to be tight umbrella. Watch for chaps will never happen. All right, number two base housing is in disarray. The story comes from us from the Austin statesman, should be states woman to k. Come on. State's lady still people. Soldiers in their spouses told Fort Hood brass in housing official Thursday night about horrific conditions on base housing at ranges from looms of mold. That's that boobs of mold makes some beautiful. There. Blooms of mold lead paint, an infestation of stakes and cockroaches and dangerously off the window screens Fort Hood, lawmakers have set aside three hundred million to renovate twenty four barracks. Recent years, including sixty one million last year, they fear that those funds could be used to pay for boarder wall construction says US Representative Roger Williams or Republican represents for hood to come out against the national emergency this week if he would threaten renovations of what were said were the barracks were literally falling down. So this guy represents for hood. And he doesn't want the military money. That's allocated for base housing to be on the border wall. He wants to actually go Bill the barracks, build the housing Bill military buildings a lot of them are very shitty. And when he says literally falling down because this is an actual army base four which constants eve really means literally about the out. Yeah. It's unfortunate. It pains me to listen to this just because I spent more time with put fortified than anywhere else. And I. Know what those barracks like. And I can I can't say that. I'm surprised to be hearing about this story. You look. Times on base housing going to the enlisted on base housing. I always lived off face once I got the beach or whatever. But. Going to the on base housing for lower. Enlisted was the most, oppressing. It was such a shit hole. Like, I I went to one couple's apartment there on base. And I was like I can't believe you have to live in this shit hole. Like when they moved in the carpets were like sick with dirty grease. The walls were yellow the window screens were like falling apart. Like, I was like I can't believe that. This is what they gave you that was gross. I felt bad for them. Harm listeners. But whenever I lived in Italy as a young child young young chaps sitting in a crib still. My mother has told me many stories over weeping and gnashing of teeth that she found a rat in my God. We lived sitting now saying as she walked in there, and there's a big old rat, and it was not master splitter. Goodness. Just hanging out and that the filtration system was so bad because we live close to volcano. That's where my eyes are always read because the largest of all Cannock ash. Docile and has nothing to do with my banana induced pink. But it's still a bad situation. Totally be lifted. Pax river, Maryland when we live there black mall author out the place they had to like we had to get out of the base housing there for a little while. It's a common theme across the military, the old Quantico housing, look straight up like a mess. Lap kid or. It's awful. It's basically like an an even on. I went to what's Fort Bragg. I went to on base housing there once and I was like, oh my God. What is like absolute shit hole and the playground behind? It was an absolute shit hole. And the the landscaping was a shit. It's like these are putting it on the line. These families are sacrificing so much like come on help them out a little bit here. Some nice. One of the scenes from the fucking wire. Like you. Old couch that everyone hung out on the creek has. Lockout a year. It's I mean, it is tough. I'm not defending them. But it is tough. When you consider how many people you have to house so to maintain these large buildings does take a lot of work. So it really gets the old will just do good enough for government work type treatment. And that's that's what happens these these things. These little problems turn into big problems because they just get ignored your after year. And I think so many times people in its across the military is just like, and it's just kind of always how it's been. So we don't need to make too much of an effort to improve the living situation for any of these guys when that should be a focus. They should be trying to improve the a lot of the high level leadership says comes into the base housing place in this chair. Not my problem. Doc concerned about it. And it's because it has always been that way. Another issue is all the private companies that have been hired to like take care of it. Because I remember as a company gunny that's one of my marines. Like, it's their their heating went out during a snowstorm or sit like that they were not on call to the same level whenever it used to be like on Okinawa. It was military members who took care that like the air force people like they had actual service members who were twenty four seven that. If something went down like in a typhoon they were fucking coming out because there are member of the military to when you have all these different private organizations. They have a jar departments. They have all these different rules, and that's what really stinks because you start dealing with a bunch of civilians who don't have the same desire to come in on a Saturday. So you have leaky faucets. You have all the ship that never gets fixed. Nobody cares. It really is. Shame because I mean, these guys are some of the hardest working folks our military, so they deserve just basic housing. You know, what I'm asking them to upgrade it to where they're just living in the laps luxury. Just just give some basic stuff. They shouldn't have to deal with rooms and apartments and barris that are just falling apart at the seams terrible. But I will give shot out to commit are Luton Jenner who's in charge of Fort Hood. Who has by the way, a phenomenal name. Listen to this fellow's name, Lieutenant General Paul e funk Holly polish hug, I'll if it's all sorts of the family members. It was time for the army to fix the issues of unsatisfactory housing. I was born at Fort Hood debt. So I take this personally, we will make a real change. We'll be transferred about it. This is about communication entrust. I just don't know. I mean, your Lieutenant General you probably could it as a two star to once a story blows like this. Everybody gets up in arms. You knew your soldiers. Living in shitty situation. You didn't do anything until Reuters AP had a crazy right out about mice and meth than fucking lead paint everywhere should've been fixed a long time ago. But nobody cares. Let me ask you question. They don't really care. They don't they only as you said they only care because now it's out there that they're living in squalor. Let me ask you a question though, because I had never lived on base housing. But do you think it's part of the military's rite of passage to live in on base housing in shitting housing and Hardin that in awarded to go from like, corporal to say staff sergeant you've gotta live in a place that has a lot of lead paint in order to you're not gonna get there without the lead paint. I think it gives you a little something extra honestly gives you a little specis in your step. The. These captain captain tying knots whenever we need some not tied. They go to him full shifts Brown three ladies we are in. We finally made it more than forty five years after the military draft ended a federal judge ruled that a law requiring men, but not women to register for the draft is unconstitutional in a ruling issue late Friday US district judge gray Miller denied the government motion. Keep a lawsuit originally brought by the national coalition for men a nonprofit men's right advocacy group, which was seeking an injunction. Ordering the selective service system to require women. Register for the draft, basically, all that means this this men's right groups, like it's not fair that women don't have to register for the draft meet have to and it went through they won. So the draft itself. And during the final stages of the Vietnam war back in seventy three but all American men age eighteen to twenty six or still required to register. With the selective serve. Ervices stem. So. Is that something that like when you're getting your license like, I wouldn't know Milady I've never had to so. I didn't know this this for me you had to go in order to enlist you had to go bomb. Tear for selective service and to get a student loan like to get a federally insured student loan. You have to be registered you have to show proof of registering for the selective service too. So I think it's been a lie. I'm obviously fucking otas. Hell I think whenever you're eighteen years due at the post office. Basically the supreme court had previously upheld excluding women from that draft and eighty one when this went to court because women were excluded from combat duty at the time. But because that prohibition on women in combat duty was lifted in twenty fifteen it doesn't make constitutional sense anymore. So if there ever was a time to discuss the place of women in the armed services that time has passed. That's what judge gray wrote. So basically now saying, hey, ladies are out there doing the same stuff as men? There's no reason they shouldn't and that national coalition for men, the men's rights, advocacy. Group who fought for this? I feel like they thought they were doing like a real jab at at feminists and stuff by saying here, you got your quality. You have to go to war now to buy went down and all this group. And so like remember remember Gillett had that like masculinity talks about STAN went out, and they're like, we're putting stickers on all Gillette products that say this product's harmful to males. They like work on studies that show women don't support other women. They compared the cavenaugh hearing to a high tech lynching so there. Yeah. So they're pretty jazzed about this. Honestly, I'm totally cool with this one. I don't think we're having a draft come around for quite sometime if it comes to that. I mean, fucking bad shape. I think we'll get back to a draft and two. I don't disagree that. It's I'm cool with it. Right. It's fine dandy with me. So I don't know. Right. It stands to reason that if you guys can fight in combat now that the men should not have to bear the burden should. Draft them around gin. So all things are equal. So let's make it very well. And also, mice note, the the gentlemen that district judge his name gray Miller. I think it's great. When you have a first name, that's color, gray, red blue, those are always great names. Oh, yeah. Just purple octagon is rushing it right now. Supreme good. Kate. Start talking. My awkward. What else do we see change though? Besides just adding women to the draft. What do you think eight? What else? Do you want women added to? They say that we're equal in service now, but we're still not we're still I'm member when I was in. We had to just I could go out and do things with the infantry and Marsha, but I wasn't allowed to say it. So I had to change the wording and all my reports. So I wasn't on a patrol. I was on an atmospheric. Survey could never say. So, you know, I never got to say I did the same things as men and like there's just still so much. It's not equal. So let's really make it. Let's really keep the standards equal making equal which will be tough for women. But do you think that I don't mean to be dramatic? But do you think that ever happens that's ever going to happen? Yeah. I think so I think it's just gonna take time still think still take time. I think it depends on the leadership in the unit. I don't think it's going to be across the board. But I think slowly, but surely. People get on board with it. We'll see who knows speaking of getting on with it. Let's talk a little bit about masturbation. The walkway miss. The Roth down me, I'm walkway lead me to the building puff. You all round four. We had a user submitted picture. And this one is shocking to me as a former person who stood duty Kate. I assume that you have stood duty many a times as well. In the barracks cons soon. Not maybe maybe a West Point. You guys have bear city at West Point. Yes side, did it then not not often though only a couple of times. Okay. So you have a little bit of barracks duty. We got this picture of a big whiteboard. It on the white board. The guy said that he was duty NCO walked in and saw this up in the common area of the barracks. I can't imagine getting anything or nerve wracking when you're barracks because there's nothing worse than being the duty in CIO and having a bear full of drunk junior listed jazzy. Jazzy tenable and not just like your onesies twosies. I mean, everybody's drunk. So they have this list and the game is called Tanka drink for every category. You beat your meat to cake ladies beat addicts too. Right. Oh, ten percents. Sure lady. She could play along with this game to equal opportunity again, but they have basically three long categories three long columns of different types of porn. It starts off with milk BBC, which as we all know meets big Black Hawk have a little bit of BB W big Woody whites. You have your Asian your ebony Latina your amateur big booty big tits. Are you gonna read all of these Gill? I've just giving the people a little bit of what is actually about sixty two categories racial, gang, bang, Laurie oil, free taxi. Fasting couch property sex. I mean on and on and on basically category, you could possibly think of so I would imagine people died from this if they took series drink take a drink for every category that you beat your dick to that thing. So I don't really understand the game though. 'cause like there's like twenty of them up there. So I take twenty drinks. Oh, yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. Then then Chaffee agree, then there's probably a lot of dead people dead, and those honestly, you just might as well, just go grab a bottle of octa. Just starting. Yeah. You're in the barracks, man. Those dudes are hazardously horny. Like you've got nothing to do. Those types of clogged those talking about overseas are not even overseas. If you're talking about let's say camp, Geiger, North Carolina where he just got out of boot camp is the first time you're doing onesies twosies in a room there. When I. I was out for a letter would. Gone. That fort litter would usually whatever you leave school. You have to make sure that everything's out of the room everything spotless. Right. Like that's part of the right? You remember the case here faces? Gone brat. Bootcamp whenever you would get the Brown towels. Oh god. All right. Yes. There was a Brown towel. When fort litter would that I pulled out from a mattress underneath them mattress and mother fucker with stiff as. Four straight. You could use it as a cutting board. It was so strong. And I was just like my God man, somebody this thing. Just absolutely abo-. It wasn't your channel. No wasn't much somebody that there before me like in between the two match. We had how comforts I I had a roommate who kept her double-sided dildo with like a extra attachment just like out on her coffee table. Cough on a double sided have like a little third prong that came out. I assume it went in. But I don't know. Raines me. Comforts the flashlights. Get found and then on my second deployment. We are putting Connex boxes at first. And these two lady Gundy's that were attached. I think CID with us when we all got caught up to a meeting they came out with a plastic bag in. They're like we wanna know who stayed in it before before us because we found this and it was like a homemade dildo. He's like like emitted out of clay. I thought it was like so unprofessional of them because we had been switching Connex boxes. So it was someone in our unit had been staying there before I was like why are you going to call people out like what alone? Well. Made dildo. If they went laugher. I think one of the most common things that we do in the military's help. Other people move whenever somebody are moving out. I remember going. It was I was in Virginia. And I had to help what am I bodies move out? And we picked up his mattress the move it out of him and his wife's bedroom and underneath was the largest. I made it looked like a baseball bat so though, yeah, never looked at his wife to say how in the world. I mean that thing must have gone to her throat. There's no I mean, it's just it looked like a baby on. Oh, yeah. We had another guy who had left. It was the weekend. I'm gall drinking in this guy's room and the room mate who was gone for the weekend had left his like his those big things are more unsecured. Whatever wasn't offer locker. Yeah. Arm. That's how. Vocab- you let just sitting there on the thing was nipple clips in plug and like next thing, you know, all the marines are Clinton each other nipples together. Like, you can't you gotta secure that ship, man. You got it. What am I saw? I have a story to kind of my one of my friends in high school through a house party and one of the bullies in school found like manage to find his way into his mom's bedroom and found his mom's still don't started parading around the house at his own house party. Cabs lovely. That's that is low though, only other time that I think I was I laughed the hardest. I've ever left in like a bear inspection. I had this guni named point as and he was doing barris inspection, and he was going through everything and you look through everything when you're doing the barracks inspection, one of the main places that you look for clearly this in the microwave, so it opened up the microwave and the only thing that was inside was a banana peel. He looked over at the brain like Yoon Asti fucking word. No hitting that bad boy up for about eight seconds bingoing. Kate's face from like, not knowing what I was talking about the self discovery though. Yeah. I knew you were going right away. I take credit to. Supposed to use cantaloupes are great for for that stuff on banana credit to. I I don't know if it was a soldier marine or who. But whoever made this game up on the whiteboard. They did have the stools in the stool and stars. So was branded as bar slow game house. God got back on. That's true. All right. So social media can't be good. It can give us topics like that. But it could also be bad. One of our good friend of the program air staff officer did a little bit undis- discovering of this Marine Corps veteran are not even better. I think he's still on active duty, right still active duty, so he retreated, but this guy at back tweeted, another fascist Nazi say fuck Seig is. Another fastest. Yeah. Over. Yeah. I have the tweet up now my bad. Okay. Here we go. Social media could be good. And it can also be bad. Like we just discovered a little bit of a drinking game. It's good depending on which way you look at it. If you like to get blackout drunk the barracks on a Friday good feed. Don't like that thing is probably bad. What's definitely bad in? We're going to go on the record firmware as a podcast will block thirty against Nazis in uniform, and that was discovered on social media this weekend. Right, Kate, right. This is kinda my save round. So this kind of blew up on Twitter over the weekend. But we've had a couple of cases over the last few years of marines in like Nazi cake groups getting called out, which you're an absolute dumpster fire. If that's you fuck you. You're not a marine at on anyway. But so this guy had Beck's said another fascist Nazi admiring marine outta last night lava dogs. Lance, corporal, Mason Edward lava dogs is one three third marines. Edward Mead of Birmingham. Alabama recent convert to radical traditionalist Catholic society of Saint. Pious xh founded by Nazi sympathizer Hoover up his social media today after a tip on Friday, and it's bad. So then he includes all the screen shots of the guys pose where an his handle is at Jacobite Edward, and he's twenty infantrymen dedicating my life to God Catholic counterrevolutionary, and he goes on to just absolutely rip on Jewish people on black people on basically anybody who is not a white, dude. He goes to Japan where he's posting pictures of himself in uniform in Japan saying like, I've just quoting was tweets ching Chong. I've made it fob LA like all these. Yeah. Proceeds to a ton of slurs towards Asian people. He there's pictures of him at the armory where he's putting weapons in the shape of swastikas. There's pictures of him with black face on. He uses his like Kimmo paint to put black face on and just all sorts of like absolutely heinous shit and the deeper you go the worst. Realized this absolute he's like you look at them giant fucking nerd like he's the guy you get you get your bunk mate assignment. You're like not this fucking guy this room to exactly like that. We look like bass exactly you walk in. You're like God, I'm him. When it come in. He's going to be masturbating what choking himself or some. Yeah. And he posts pictures of him holding a gun on a tweet about this feminist group. He's like I'd like to see how they like a few good taps from their own commie gun, and he's holding up like an old communist rifle. Like, so this guy just hates everybody. And he's just except for white white people white people. So he's just disgusting and like looking at his setup in the barracks. His side of the room is just like covered in pictures of Jesus pictures from the crusades and then a giant nerd gaming chair that like J P from grandma's boy would sit in like sit on days like. Like what? So people are tweeting at the marines. Now like. I don't like as a newfound gamer. I do you respecting my game culture. 'cause everybody knows. I am all in. I'm back in on gaming back in time. But as I mean, social media, there is I don't know if you guys there's this article about on verge that they talked about some of the people who worked at Facebook because that's how so many people are getting radicalized. It's happening. More more often. There's these moderators who are assigned by Facebook to go through all these different Meema counts like from the Russian bots and shit. Like that see what happens these moderators as a quote from the verge. The moderators told me it's a place where conspiracy videos in needs. They could see a gradually them to embrace fringe fuse on one auditor walks the floor promoting the idea that the earth is flat a former employee a former employee of Facebook told me as begin to question. Certain aspects holocaust another former employees who told me he is mapped every escape route in his house in Slough with a gun at his side said, quote, I no longer believe. Nine eleven was a terrorist attack. Like the way that social media happens. You just it's gradual like turning because they go back. I remember saying these some of these vet Twitter people going back to his post from like two years ago that wasn't a thing. And you could see the progression of the radicalization of his time line of his YouTube channel and things like that take place in real time on Twitter because of the accounts that he was re tweeting retweeting looking at constantly in seeing all these conspiracy videos and now he's like fully embrace that lifestyle. It's crazy wild. Yeah. I mean, I don't even know where to go at this. It's like what do you think the marines? Are they gonna find him in a row you deleted his Twitter already? But here's the thing. Imagine getting that phone call from your first started be like bitch via racist. But here's he had been caught out before apparently had been protests commands attention before. And nothing was really done. That eating terrible. Here's what was telling to me that he was so comfortable having an open account doing this showing his own face. Like he felt that comfortable where he was at doing that that that was not a problem for him. I don't think that that's like embracing of it from the Marine Corps culture. I think that that's just shows the amount of it like idiocy that you can have in your body to because there is no way one. It's very difficult. Like from a command perspective, it is a difficult process to get people removed in that should be something that is a lot easier. You get caught like being a white nationalist being involved with the KKK be involved with any of the like fringe, right friends left groups, you should be kicked the fuck out mmediately. It shouldn't be something. Like, oh, we gotta do negative counseling. Give him folk and for two pro cons. Yeah. There's gotta be a there's got to be people. Always tell you in the military. There always has to be a paper trail. You can't just go to them with one incident and say, all right. This guy's gotta go. So that is. Is somewhere that you know, we should be able to use a little leadership discretion and say that there's no paper trail here. But it doesn't matter. Look at what this person is saying, and this is not someone who oppose the values that we teach and live in the Marine Corps. So we need to get him the hell out right now. Yeah. Yeah. This isn't like showing up late to PT. It's like Nazi like, right big difference. Anyway, I hope he gets the old fashioned sock beaten there. I said it. On that. I would like to back eighty I think that should be a caveat. Like in-command books like you're not allowed to Hayes really intense style hazing unless you find us Wasco. There's. My biggest finest bar of dove in my oldest green Issac and just swirled around there. I said it. That's my kick. Rocks cons. All right. Getting wild sending us heavy. Save rounds mall jacked up con. I got one I came across the story from our friends over at military dot com and chaps she may already know this being the resident Winnie the Pooh aficionado of the the crew. But. Did you guys know that a mill the the author he was a veteran of both world wars. And he created Winnie. The Pooh to explain war to his son. Christopher Christopher some bad. But there's people that theorize actually like all the characters in the books. Kind of exude different characteristics of veterans. They said piglet is paranoia, your depression, tigger, impulsive behavior rabbit perfectionism caused aggression Al memory loss can get in ru represent over protection. So I just thought that was little typically don't hate that just stand and like that. Yeah. I could see that. I whenever I used to do leadership classes, I would say saved by the bell that there is members of every single. Yeah. The bell show, but do even better love. So winning when he is is. Yeah. No. When he was a Milne who he wrote for himself as Christopher Robin's guide through the hundred acre woods, I love that. So little. The poo and pipe brick Winnie. The pooh. I saw one last thing on Twitter that I wanna mention social media heavy episode today. But there is a guy Tom Molin his name on Twitter. I don't know if that's his actual name or not he said quote in Iraq two thousand three we came across this kid crying because his dead. Dad would just been killed get picks up his dad's gun pointed at us a new my squad was going to shoot knowing I had body armor on I stepped in front of the kid take the bullet to the chest and his gun the kid survives. There's always another way. What an outrageously bullshit story. Justly bullshit. Thousand three we had flak-jackets jackets. There was no fucking dragon skin underneath you didn't have like sappy plates that could stop any type of AK forty seven Rothe fuck outta here. Tom Mullen, you will wire didn't happen. How many like that get to? I can see like like left you into like. Watching on being like how brave. Just unbelievably stupid in front of the kid took a shot to the chest. Not that fucking flag jacket refrained shit. Colin bullshit on that outta here. Tom. I mean in two thousand four when we were wearing those things getting doing hip toss. Lost more breath. Can't. No, not at all, and who would shoot. Anyway, like what is like? All right. Tom. Like you stepped in front of still pulling the trigger like who. Lasette case of E. Or is it your your? Yeah. I've met her in Twitter just a mess this week laying it up calm down. No more not is in the Marine Corps. Police sound the retreat drinking cups in a bitch. Fist about a fatalist. Batard. Pat are padded a little kid in the background. But can raise the. It was this guy, Mr. balloons, the balloon hands. No way, no way, get real like those things. Miss the walkway. Mr. walk down me, I'm the walkway lead me to the building. Fuck you. Five six four three him. Right. He some stupid bitch paid for that floor on me. No way another baby. No flow ever again. Not once not never. Nope. Chaz that would that God damn shea. It's not might shift. Not my not my problem. That's what I say. Way stupid dresses stupid flowers. Lighthouses rule. You don't like the lighthouse. You suck. What is the Seahawks? Captain was seahorse seashell party. Didn't invite me? Why didn't I get invited? Seahorse e hill was kit. Real I'm in love with seahorses love within the so beautiful and cute. I'm in love with the seahorses the fucking unreal. I love them all the clocks. I love him. I love seahorses. And I love looking at them. And I love seashells. I love seashell things. I'll have things with seashells seahorses on. I'm like, blankets and tangles in little bags. I love him seahorses ever.
Taking Care of Your Own
"Welcome to veteran on the move. If you're a veteran in transition and entrepreneur wannabe for someone still stuck at the GOP trying to escape this. Podcast is dedicated to your success. And now your host job bring have you checked out. American forces travel yet. American forces travel is an exclusive website powered by priceline bill for veterans and active duty. Check them out at veteran the move dot com slash travel our back talking with retired Brigadier General. Tom Brady. Us Marine Corps. Call sign sage so sage. What if you could talk to us a little bit about taking care of your own and in the context of when you first learned as a when you're to Kademi and early is a young officer in the Marine Corps. What was your experience with taking care of your own. Yeah thanks Joe and down. I think this is a critical part of leadership. Never leadership talk that. I've given boil it down to two things -CCOMPLISH submission and take care of your troops. And sometimes they can be in conflict the other day in class this game up and all of that Maybe shortly but at the Academy of when I was there as a midshipman and then later as a company officer the disadvantage we had was We did not have enlisted senior enlisted integrated into the brigade that is assist the officers so a lot of that relationship officer to enlisted. We just had to kind of pick up on her own and then later at basic school as reinforced. But I guess at boil down to one of the things that I I learned some when a first sergeant said To me AH I. I don't care what you know as long as I know that you care and that may seem kind of a clever plan words but it's it's really the essence He knew that coming out. Basically School I knew a lot about the tactics instructor and so forth of the Marine Corps. That's the beauty of the basic school for. But that other part I guess has to either be inherent or it's learned and it's it's it's best. I guess if it's inherent but it can certainly be learned in that is to give a damn about your people and it's a kind of a balance because you're talking about people that has combat leader your schoon ascend into harm's way and those that Sun Tzu talked about the EU treaties zone beloved sons. You're putting them at risk. So how can you care about them if you're exposing them to death? But that's a set the challenge of of leadership of a combat leader of again getting the job done but taking care of the troops. I the first Part of it is simple. And that is Know who they are. I mean it's easy for them. They've only got one to ten or one. Captain is a case may be but it's important that that you know who they are and that maybe takes a little bit of work in some are better at that than others but I can no straight at best buy story of when we had a reunion on my rifle company This is years after he'd been Vietnam and ice showed up as an active duty colonel at the time. But to the minds of my troops I was still the captain still skipper. And of course. In my mind's eye they're still PFC's lance corporal although they're Kinda Gray and perhaps if editor coupons but you know we just went back in time together and anyway George Martin walked up and said Sir you know I. It's great to see against Jim. Remember when when when I showed up reported my company is not know Georgia really. Don't he said no? No don't you remember you're standing there talking. And then all of a sudden there's all kinds of noise and explosions and screaming and hollering and so forth in New Tournament. Said Martin. I'M GONNA be Kinda busy here. Good jumping that whole and when all of this is over we'll talk some more. I said. No Georgia I don't remember we. Why do remember what's the big deal? George now is really hurt. He said Sir the big deal a big deal was you knew my name. You knew my name. You're telling me that George Martin got blown away that day. Somebody would know that. He went out as a fighting marine. You knew my name I just. I've always lashanda that that. That's a critical point of knowing the name of of your troops. It's a great beginning but sometimes We overlooked at but so that's the first next year their welfare And you can't make it easy for them conditions but you can make them as good as you can and try to set the example of of being willing to share the hardships of your troops. You know as a leader in combat. You don't have a more refined fighting whole a in a with a with wallpaper enough fours and so forth but you gotta be there And again it's it's the business of of showing up. You know ninety percents of success. What he ellen said is showing up and that's That's what it's gotta be You can pretend to care but you can't pretend to be there and that's I think in another necessary aspect of demonstrating that you care about the troops. You can't from a distance say Jay. This is going on or that's going on You gotta be there where you can sit and do something about it. And every officer has the opportunity to use his authority in may be limited secular tenant. But he's still the officer and still he can get things done that can benefit our make life better for the troops as they prepare for for their mission so those would be just a first initial thoughts of knowing who your troops are and then showing up being there at the time in a when when they're digging fighting holes and the officer shows up suddenly that becomes important My dearest friend General Krulak he had Second Force Service Support Group Would show up in his coveralls. When troops are changing oil on the vehicles think how important changing oil became when the commanding general's showed up and was wanting to get down there and dirty with them as well Some people say well this kind of Hokey thing I can tell you. It just speaks volumes about caring enough to to show up and and to to see what would your troops are doing and to as best you can make What they're doing a bit easier or more productive and so I think those are the aspects of carrying the other. Things are getting fed getting promoted. I mean all those things are part of the officers responsibility into that can't be shirked and that can't be passed off to the edge and under arts of the personnel officer or somebody else is the leader who's got a care about as people demonstrate has carrying by What what he does or what he feels to do. Well a phenomenal eloquent way of explaining taking care unit for firsthand experience. So we're gonNA take a quick break and We come back. We're GONNA talk a little bit about how you've taken taking care of your own out of the Marine Corps in an it's incident sector as a college professor will be right back if business travel coming up vacation time or you're going on leave. 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You've actually had some experience taking that concept out of the military and into the savane sector and a number of different ways and what you're doing currently is as a college professor. Can you talk a little bit about what you've done or how you've taken this concept taking care of your own into the into the world of? Teaching College Kids Shirley Joe Yeah it's a amazing. When I got out of the Marine Corps I was really concerned of what was I going to do as an infantry officer I knew how to use things and people and so but in think there's much need for the billion but as fortunate enough to To land a job with USAA which focuses on the military families and so forth so it does seem to be a good fit. But the other is that I was the first Corinne retired general officer to come to. Usaa Verma Konare Force Organization there in San Antonio and a great outfit My days with UCA. I absolutely loved the Great Leader's not great people But primarily air forsell bit army navy and now comes this marine. So what is this? GonNa be off so I guess the first thing I realized is that The things that I had learned As about leadership are translatable into the civilian world now obviously a different mission That goes without saying but but they're still listen mission. Our mission was to provide the best products and services we could to to our numbers not customers but members because they are member members of your organization of UCI and their families and to be there when they're having difficult time so you know A loss of some kind or pcs move which can be really. You're shattering are rubery stressful to families. But these things that that I had experienced and I thought gee this an opportunity to To translate this so I think long I had was As charges support services and one things told me after I had gone there. It was You're going to be in charge. The Fiesta and I said Gee that's that sounds was a fiesta. By well we bring in a bunch of people and is yesterday for percent tournus agree how many people you expect Run five thousand or so. Okay all right. Thanks so To prepare for this Various folks building your little stance and so forth again. You can pretend to care but you can't pretend to be there so I go on Saturday and I'm wandering around and talking to people and find out what's going on and one guy is looking at me really. Kinda strange and I. I walked over to him. And I said you're a marine right. And he popped to attention. Here's heels click and so yes sir. How do you know that Sir as well I kind of guessed it but You know how you doing. I said Listen I've got a bunch of stuff. That friend of mine recruiter sent me. Oh why don't you come by my office Monday and And will confess. Oh yes there will be some rules on. There's no sign of an so. I paged him. Which really they've used in trouble. Sushi shows up. You know kind of peak around the corner when enjoys come on man and so I passed on some of the stuff term it. And he's he's looking at all of this and with tears in his eyes he said. Sir Are we gonNA have a Marine Corps birthday here and I said of course. You'RE GONNA have Marine Corps birthday him. Who got some rains it? We got two marines. That's all we need for Burton. Of course I didn't clear that with anybody but but as one of those things Joe that when you have instincts that say this is the right thing to do. you just have to not give wrapped around the axle asking permission because sometimes for people to decide. They've got to go through all the ramp. This is the right thing to do so we did so. We had our first marine corps birthday and because of that then USA. Well Gee since the Marines Having their birthday all the services will have their birthday so they used a veteran's day the eleventh of November so the tenth to that. But the point was you know. Here's a marine that the Dow was working honestly wanted to have the marine birthday celebration proud of Viscera Jr. and so. That's that's what we did. The other is that Again following the lead that I had of of Getting you dirty I. I went out in Worked on the on the cars because the vehicles part of my responsibility. You'll appreciate this. I went out to the airplanes which are also part. Usa responsibility got a chance to to replace things a generator and realized how difficult it is to work on. An I'd worked on cars little bit before but there's not much room in her plane and it came out with busted knuckles and so and I'm sure that afterwards though the mechanics michener that I didn't screw it up but but but the point was there I am in coveralls seeing what they did again an idea of what the ask him. You know How how can we make things better? Do you have any ideas? Any thoughts and so forth then to get that direct feedback The same way I would in the Marine Corps to appeal of C What do you think of this idea? What do you have any thoughts hard? We can make this better to get that feedback and not that every idea is going to be a good one but but people appreciate being asked and tavern important so often I I realized that and with any kind of change we automatically get into the how. Here's what we're going to do and so forth and I read a great book not just pass on to heaven. Anyone called man's search for meaning by Viktor. Frankl this book. changed my life and. I wish that I'd read it Much much earlier but in it he makes the statement that if you can explain the why most people can live with the how. Yeah if you'RE GONNA explain the why was people can live without. But how often in the Marine Corps in USA all through my life you know the bosses The the the heavy say here. We're going to make a change in. Here's we're going to do without explaining the Y you know what? What is it that we're trying to accomplish? Show me the picture. It doesn't tell me the why of it. What is it GonNa look like you know? How are we going to do? And so forth. But D- automatically get into the how without your take nest of explaining. Why just never made sense to me so that I think it was one of the things that I kind of picked up from. The Marine Corps passed onto druther OFFICE. I've had an opportunity to lead so those are just some of the things that I did Again getting around to know the people and to establish you know the boss who sits in his office is is is making a terrible mistake because if he sits there waiting for people to come in and see him. Many people not do that. Right gotta go out to you. GotTa show that you're assessable that you're willing when I had the two offices and Sacramento and then it's in here in Tampa My wife and I go in on Saturday morning now when we started the extended hours and I walked ron and employs a state. What are you doing here Tom? There's another aspect. I wasn't general. Jody to them. I was Tom Because I didn't want my previous rank to somehow be a barrier in our relationship and our Communications so what? Are you doing Tom and I said well? I'm I'm here because you're here. What do you mean by that is all? You're giving up a Saturday morning. Are you working on Saturday morning because we need you? The least I can do is to show up and demonstrate by my presence that I appreciate what you're doing and it was like Holy Mackerel. You know what a strange notion that one of the people who are on charge of us This showing up to To show his appreciation. And you know that's an again people see what has kind of gimmicky thing and so forth. I don't think so again you can. You can send memos and e mails and so forth. I love you care about you and so forth. Nothing is a substitute for showing up a quick story High School Basketball Player. All American went to college is an all American. I mean just a phenomenal player. His mother attended every game that he played. His mother never saw a single game that he played why she was blind. Wow Gee what did you blind? What does that mean well? The important thing wasn't that she saw him who said he saw her every game up in the stands demonstrating by her presence that she cared. You know that that's not asking a lot of a leader that that you take time from your scheduled to to show up those things that are important to to employs a birthday anniversary. Whatever if you get an invitation to something as a as a leader go. I don't care what it is your the people you're privileged to lead. Thought enough of you to invite you then by. Golly you gotta go Is it just part of? I think demonstrating that that you give a damn bottom well We're getting close in the time for this episode We are going to continue this conversation about taking care of your own I wanted to get to your experience. as you've taken this concept into being a college teacher college professor but I think the interest just keeping them trying to keep these around fifteen minutes. We'll just do a continuation in in continued that this discussion onto the next episode. So thanks again. Sage in these two veterans are asking. Mike listen a veteran on the move. Your Pathfinder to free tube if you like to show review and I tunes reviews are always greatly appreciated so until next time. This veteran is Oscar Mike.
ZBT #137: The Most Decorated Soldier in US history
"We've got a horny episode folks today it's gonna be a big time round in that let me start again. Episode de-emphasis that okay? Ready? I'm all horn for today's episode of zero block thirty Kate is in Atlanta for the Super Bowl conscious back in New York. I am in San Antonio where it's a lovely seventy degrees. Unlike our friends in Chicago or dealing with negative sixty degree weather right now, which blows my mind, we still have five rounds in the in the magazine today round number one, they got a whole lot of soul. But boots in the navy are really messing things up round. Number two. The government shutdown is over or ever will at least for three weeks round. Number three GD Grenada crunch supreme wrap with the site of W w to bomb or four you won't believe what this Lord couple brought into a Taco Bell round number four the most decorated soldier military history as gone viral after seventy four years, then you're saying it's as big as accomplishment yet will debate round number five. We hear a lot about veterans. But the suicide rate among after duty marines is at a ten year high. This episode is going to be presented by. Our good friends at Romans. That's why I'm home dubbed folks because they are giving you the pills that you need. If you are like Connor and can't get a boner study shows that fifty two percent of guides will experience rector erectile dysfunction or the a lot of guys thinks that's just the way they're built. But actually, it could be the first sign of something. A lot more serious like high blood pressure high cholesterol, a heart condition in so much more Roman is a one stop shop for men's health. 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Like, the government is no longer shut down. All right. Let's start with Kate. Kate your big time things you're finally down in Atlantic. And this update about what's going on in life in Atlanta. Yeah, we were on the bus from Thursday till yesterday. But now, we're at the big house. I was supposed to be sleeping on the bus all week, but it smells like poop too much. So I get to live in the house now. So. Little do they now it was neat in the bus all week. So that could smell. For me to stay here in the house. But I wanted to do a quick shout out to these air force. Guys are bus pulled up on the last day in Nashville to interview the little kid that like yoed Mesa Ramsey Ramsey and the house we parked outside was a group of air force veterans who every year pick a different city and get together like fifteen of them like they have a reunion every year. So it was the one guy fortieth birthday party, and they all ran out. And the guy news goes earplug thirty they invited me into the house. Meanwhile, the rest of our crews in the bus doing this interview. And I was like, yeah. Going to this house with these strangers on this random ass house. So I went into the house of these strangers. A lot of them were they were also cool. They had been to Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times. They had all these great stories paratroopers weather, man, like all sorts of things it may be the most and they gave me a big old trash bags full of liquor into the shoutout to the air force much loved you guys. You're not nerds you guys cools hill. So yeah, that was a damn delight. But I wanted to talk about a different branch, really quick. I went down a little bit of a rabbit hole win boots in the navy. Yeah. Until when I say that what do you think of off the bat? What do you think? I mean by that little baby back boots little babies. Yeah. So boots is usually a term we use for newbies in the military K boot get over here that don't boot fucked up in town this week, and that kind of thing, but the navy has a problem with actual boots the one that the wearing on their feet, and it started three years ago navy senior leaders came to believe that the boots were causing people to fall off ladders. And I never thought about this before. But I'm sure navy people know if you're on a ship, you're probably going up and down ladders like twenty four seven. Yes. And like going through whenever I would do searches for Gaza and stuff on ships. When I was in Japan going up is such a pain in the ass. And those things you would think that they would make them like not slick, but a lot of the services are pretty slick getting up there with your boots on and getting a working dog up, those Nash Chaffetz. How how do you get? How'd you get a dog up a ladder? It depends because one of the things that you have to worry about with training dogs is lots of dogs have think about whenever you're in New York. You know, like an if you have in the road where you could go over greats. Yes, dogs, don't like to go over grates because they they don't have the depth perception like humans do where you can see through in know that it's going to hold you have to go and train your dog on ladders going upstairs, or lower wells that we would call it in the military on ships going up ladder was you'd have to train your dog. How to do that? So some of the dogs just flat out won't do it. They just are like absolutely not go not going up that I'm gonna fall through him break my leg. So you would have. Throw your dog over your shoulder like a scarf, Winnie Kravitz style. I feel better that's probably not easy. 'cause picturing the ladders on the ships are not very wide. No, it's a painted. It's that's the reason why this is the fun. Fact, not many people know there's actually several dogs in the military fleet. That are just a clear like submarines and ships. It could be a little Jack Russell terrier that they would train and whenever those would come through the Dopp the bomb school or the dog school here at Lackland, all the handlers all the trainers there. Absolutely loved it. Because you have these guys saw whenever we were down in San Antonio, the big silver kennels that they would pull behind the trucks that had like ten twelve dog Senate. That's usually what they go in. But when you have a Jack Russell, yes. Usually let that bitch up into the cabin. In an ideal world, if I was a dog handler, I would have a Chihuahua and I'd be doing the submarines and he just being my cargo pocket. Yeah. So we had a we had a boot that whatever they would show up speaking of boots, whatever a boot would show up in Japan, one of the kennel master trainers there. I think she was actually a trainer she had a Datsun at home, and we would bring her when we had new handlers. We would put the Datsun in the kennel and tell the new hammers whenever they got dropped to us. Like, all right. This is gonna be your dog. Oh, what the train this Dotson wiener dog baby. Ten pound. Yeah. Wiener dog. So we would get the dog out. They would put the talk like they have been the hail position. And the dog would do it because he had a ambler going through the obstacle course jumping over the hurdles doing stuff, and then we would say all right? Somebody will get the little bite suit. And then. Space would be like wait what you've got to get this little tiny bite suit. And we had a puppy a puppy pad like a little bite bar for tiny little puppies to get them used a bite and stuff. Get. The little dots would like flyer around and go. So whatever our staffs are would come in. This was when I was at a corporal at the time. Whatever our staffs are would be getting like all right, corporal Smith our last couple Smith, go get your fucking dog. So he would go in instead of the Malan wa that he had been assigned. He would come back with little dot cet. Like, you fucking hard are the. Well, that is a door. Whatever you do whatever kind of dog you're bringing on your ship. Don't try to get them to go platters by giving them tiny pairs of navy boots. Because it turns out the safety of the boots very questionable. The naval safety center has witnessed a sharp increase in the number of mishaps and loss workdays in the fleet because of sailors falling off ladders, and they believed trans started when they switched their footwear from old boondock or style to the new N W use style boots few years ago over the span since switched they notched thirteen thousand eight hundred lost work days four thousand three hundred days on limited duty and five hundred days of hospitalization, the largest adverse impact on the fleet of all reportable injuries. Literally people falling off ladders is like the number one injury in the navy, and they believe it's the bottom of these boots like catches on them a little bit. I. Think and sends people flying. And again, I'm sure I've toward navy ships before in San Diego and New York. The intrepid I forget what the other one's called. You know, how like there's no padding. It's all. Yeah. So I guess I just never shout to the navy. I never thought about no. Oh. To get out that we do that take the fucking shot outback they need to learn how to operate on ladders without falling. This is this is a problem weeks. This is the second big problem. The navy's a wake the fuck up. They have two issues. We're proud of last week about the XBox controller. So we give me shot out last week deservedly. So for the XBox controller thing little get one for this. They need to know that you need to have good shoes. And that you need sleep. We have a big problem having collision two people were up and drive it into because they didn't sleep. I feel like those two things are commonsense. People need sleek people need good boots. Round number two. The coast guard is we did it the shutdown is over. But I kinda think the government pussyfooted this issue. Do you guys think that's fair? Well, let me hear why you think that well because at took thirty five days, and it feels like they didn't really get anything accomplished because they could have had the same exact Bill go through without the shutdown without all the stress without eight hundred thousand people going through what they did or in the shutdown being stressed about finances and all that stuff. It's just politics with people's lives constantly constantly constantly, everything was the same as it was thirty five days ago. It's just that you added a government shutdown in took billions of dollars billions upon billions of dollars away from the gross domestic product. It's probably the first quarter that will see that has absolutely no gross domestic product increased for the US financial markets across the board. Not great just not great across the board. That's the case. If that's your reasoning chaps, then yes, I agree with you. It's completely bullshit that they waited thirty five days accomplish up in they could've in maybe a day or two had they not just pussy footed around with all their politics. And when you're talking about people's lives the way they affected the coastguard, especially among everybody else that was affected. It's just really ashamed that they're willing to to do that to toy with people in that way. Yeah. Because again, some were forced to go to homeless shelters for meals for themselves and their families, according to a research center census data indicated that workers will be owed six billion in back pay. That's still might not cover all the losses incurred during the month without pay because people get back pay. But the contractors don't like you have like a an actual, government employees. Not a contractor these contractors who went thirty five days still doing their job. Some for the most part some of those people won't get paid back this money at all. And imagine. I mean, taking a one basic. Kliot tent of a deduction of your pay for the year. That's hard for anybody to get. Tenth of your pay. Even if you even if you are a person who makes one hundred twenty thousand dollars a year losing out on a tenth of that pretty shitty now. No. Expecting when you expect money to calm. I think a lot of people are very regimented about how they pay their bills and how they budget their money. So if you just take one of those months away, it really can affect them and the other thing back pay this great and getting a big paycheck all at once is great. But it doesn't help for those people that have already had their credit affected or possibly have their mortgages affected. So it really it still very unfortunate. Even though we've gotten it figured out. We will say though, that wouldn't you do get that back pain not to make light of the situation when you haven't gotten paid, and then it's all stacked up big chunk checks. You had something like that. Yes. So back pay. I think is different when you're expecting it. It's when it comes unexpected. And you don't know that you're going to get back pay which that's when it is incredible. Like, I didn't know that. I've had it twice happened to me one time when I came back from Iraq for some reason processing didn't do the imminent danger in hazardous duty pet so that's like I think it's three hundred fifty bucks a month total in tax free, and they didn't make my pay tax free. Whenever I was in Iraq. So I got all that tax money back from my paycheck and the hazardous duty imminent danger pay and spent separation pink, if you're married, you get separation pay to is like a hundred and fifty bucks a month. So I ended up getting back. I think like six or seven grand tola after I came back from a deployment which wanted the car baby. We're going to Chili's. I don't know what that money went to all. I had it at one point another time was when I got out, and I was. Owed basically insurance payment after I got shot and stuff. So they didn't pay me that for like a year. And I got all that at what time it wasn't expecting it. So whenever you have this big chunk of money that hits they don't even tell you that it's coming either. They just like shows up your checking one day 'cause if you're like me like most done enlisted people, and I always assume junior officers to check it check. Well that and you don't know how the pay system works period. Like, you don't know how much you're supposed to get paid. I got paid the wrong about my entire enlistment. And there is no way that I would know now there's just no what? Yeah, I guess I never really I never really thought. I just saw what the check was every month coming into my Bank account. I never really questioned. Correct just doing now. I mean, I I when I first started working at barstool, I know that the payments were fucked up because it was way too much money. Like, I did the math are member that and I was like there's no way that this is how how much. Supposed to get paid. But now that it makes a little bit more sense in my brain. I still could be getting shorted two or three hundred bucks a month. Organ paid too much by a couple hundred bucks a month. And I would be none. The wiser. Yeah. It is a very fun feeling though to get a big fat check wall at least once in your life. So good for these people. But now when you're trying to pay off your no, okay, no mart gift card thing that you did. So you could get food for your family the line of credit? Yeah. I don't know how we're gonna do. Do you guys think that they'll find a wall resolution in the next three weeks? If you didn't deja binding to by ten years, you're not gonna find it loan at the government down. Again. Just do it just pay everybody just say, it's technically shutdown. So everybody can have their talking points just pay everybody. Everything goes back to normal just say shut down. So you can have your talking points. That's basically all everybody. That's where it comes down to. Yeah. I don't really care if the government shutdowns everyone's getting their paycheck. I don't think anybody will either remain his now you've done it for thirty five days. What's the threat? Like, all right. Shut it down. Again. It reminds me of that scene in the office whenever Stanley and Michael get into it. And he's like all right everybody out, but Stanley, and then it causes a big affect everybody in the office. Like oh shit. Michael's actually pissed off at Stanley. So things are gonna go down. They have a heart to heart talk. And then whenever they come. Everybody comes back in and Phyllis says, something Michael aren't everybody off of Phyllis the second time? It just doesn't hairy the same way right kicked everybody out. Yup. Shutdown not going to carry as much way. All right. Let's move onto round number three. 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All right round, number three. There's a Florida man who finds a World War Two grenade toss it in the trunk and brings it to a Taco Bell Taco Bell and Florida was forced to evacuate after a man visited the restaurant with the war war to hand grenade. He found while fishing police in Ocala Florida, which I have lots of family members who live in Ocala Florida, receive Utah. Here. Late limos at one of them. I would not be surprised because doing maggots fishing sounds like something that they would do. So these people were doing a little bit of magnet fishing. And if you aren't that the let me set the scene of what Ocala that area, central Florida. There's lots of really shallow lakes that dry and dry out like several times a decade, then you could buy a lakefront property in. Then in two years. It's no longer like property than in five years. It's lakefront property against just the way things go in central Florida like that. So because it's like that people lose shit all the time. So I can imagine. This is a perfect place to do a little bit of magnet fishing in magnificient. It's not rocket science. Exactly what it sounds like you put a huge magnet on the end of a fishing pole or net or something like that it just drag it along the bottom of the water and like see what you find. Sometimes you'll find they've you'll find a set of keys. Maybe we'll find an earring. Maybe you'll find engagement ring if you're. Lucky with a diamond ring on the end of it or something like that somebody lost while they are doing jet skiing, whatever it was really deep. You could do that kind of stuff too. But occasionally, I guess in this situation in Ocala this week a guy found a grenade a couple both thirty five years old had a grenade inside a five gallon bucket, which is the most central Florida think what's the general consensus about what Florida's like for you guys 'cause you're from Billy and from New York. What do you think it's like I mean, it's just white trash up and down of down the state just all white trash playing guy that go to the jersey shore on the summer that was rude when I? Gorgeous people. That's all I know about Florida like I never got deep into it. I like the white trash side. I've only been in like retirement homes, where my grandparents were so I don't really know. Florida trash, but I know Florida old Kate I follow the at Florida man Twitter account, which just documents all the doughnuts news from Florida. That's like the only thing attention to. And it's Florida Miami wrestles alligator while drunk on whatever Florida man, does it. Yes. Reading this. I was like this is spot on my favorite part is that they take this five gallon bucket with a grenade in it. They're in the Taco Bell. And then in the Taco Bell. They call nine online. Like, we got a grenade complex what making. So basically, Florida is divided into three parts where I think you have essentially from Tampa Bay all the way down to Miami. I would call that Florida Rico or the Flamini Republic where it's just basically, south Florida. It's his own little area. Tampa too. Basically Ocala would be the outside of that is DisneyWorld like where you would think about DisneyWorld where it's just that central location Ocala north in the panhandle, that's basically, Alabama or Georgia. It's all bets are off its country shit. You're playing possum, maybe the most maybe the most churches per capita of anywhere in the country is in that area where you can just go around you're gonna find cops trying to get you for a speed trap or flea market every five miles. So this story makes complete sense. I don't know. What what would you guys do if you find a great? I thought that. I mean at that point. What do you what are you gonna do with it? I guess maybe keep it as a souvenir. But there's no sense in calling the cops about it. It's not gonna explode. Well, you don't know you never know. I wrote a story the other week about a guy over in Sweden or something like that. He was taking his garden. He found it was bigger than a grenade, and he started to make a buzzing sound like there's something still functioning in it. No, he did it start to make a buzzing sound. Did this hold Swedish guy talking like the Swedish chef on the buffet? That could very well. But he covered it with his body until the cops came. Yeah. It'd be the Swedish Gardner Kyle carpenter. Like, I'm protecting my plants at all costs. So this is interesting because one question I had I looked at several news stories and they didn't answer. This for me is why would there be a World War Two Nayed in Florida, Bradley, somebody was out on a fishing boat. It was like I need to get rid of this bucket thing. Nobody's gonna go mega fishing someone to throw it. Yeah. Good or they were fishing with grenade. Some people do that grenade fishing, right? I mean, we're in oak, I've never experienced Okinawa. Obviously because I'm not in my fucking eighties four the battle of Okinawa. But there was a huge battle that took place on Okinawa. And we would do training in the jungles. We would constantly find old artillery shells that were unexploded ordinance in it was in the ass because God's would still alert on it. It'd be go. Throwing like, no, nothing's they're like, oh, wait. There was a big battle here. Let's check and you go over there need see like the butt end of their shell sticking out in just it never exploited. But it still has that smell to it. Pretty insane. Our next round is one of the he is the most decorated Terry person in the history of the United States. Con sells a little bit about Audie Murphy. Yes. So Audie Murphy over the weekend. It was the seventy fourth anniversary of when then second. Lieutenant Audie Murphy did what he ultimately received the medal of honor for and I won't read the full citation. If you have a second, you should read the full citation, but basically there was a American tank that was on fire from a German round. And Murphy climbed into the into the tank order all his men to go fall back and he got into the tank and started firing the fifty Cal from the tank that was still on fire while he was firing this round he fought the Germans by himself for an hour, an entire company size entire company side. He he killed or wounded fifty Germans and he's staying. Wound himself during the stand. But yeah, Audie Murphy for those who don't know on Murphy's pretty ridiculous. I mean, the guy he's received every notary combat award for valor, the vailable in the us army as well as French and Belgian awards he only this is the part that I actually did know until I started researching he only served active duty for three years, did you notice? Yeah. So in a matter of three years, he did all of that. I love that cons. This came up for me. I saw it making the rounds cause it was the seventy four th anniversary of his medal of honor started going on Twitter, and you did a good post on that really started going around somebody commented on that post you put up, and I thought that this is really cool not stir kata said most decorated voyeur in United States history was five five and weighed one hundred twelve pounds. Don't let anyone tell you. You're physical attributes a weakness there are more important attributes to have in life. This was the little guy. Yeah. And the other most impressive thing to me was not only he was a small fella. He was young. He actually had his sister falsified documents. So he could join the army the marines trained him away. Because he was too young. I think he was only what sixteen or seventeen years old. He was to the army navy marines, alternate down. They said he was underage and underweight. So he will know the army did initially bound. Yes. And then he had a sister comeback with falsified documents. So that he could get into the fight during World War Two. And then he obviously after is his military career. He went on to have a very prestigious acting career even played himself in his own movie to hell and back and one thing that a lot of people probably don't know about Audie Murphy is it. He was one of the first people to speak out audibly about PTSD because he suffered from PTSD from insomnia. A one point he checked himself into a motel because he was tired of taking sleeping pills. He checked. Self into a motel and just went cold Turkey for a week and went through withdrawal SRA week in a motel by himself. But then as the Korean and Vietnam war veteran started to come back, and they were dealing with PTSD. He was one of the first ones to speak out and say, hey, this is a problem that our veterans are facing. And it's okay. And that was really one of the initial people who really kicked off that discussion. So he's really continue to serve us. Well after he was done fighting. And on that post that went kind of viral on Z people would comment underneath it. Like, we don't have people like this any more. Now. It's pussies go and get treatment and shit. Like that Audie Murphy was well on the record saying that he slept with a loaded handgun underneath this pillow. You've got addicted to sleeping pills and booze. He had money problems. All of those things are what they check off for PTSD. Like, if you're experiencing these things you most likely have PTSD, right? Have the most decorated soldier in the world in the United States military, at least talking about how terrible war was because we go through and we look at his uniform, whatever on that picture that cons posted. He looked bride bushy tailed with these piercing blue eyes Abuna form that he's so humble that when the lapel crosses over you can't even see the medal of honor ribbon on it barely. It's barely poking through like set every single valor award. That's possible. He had it on his. Chest. And when he goes through they had him on for Veterans Day show on an old army radio station to try to interview in. It's like us whenever we get somebody like a Kyle carpenter or flow of grow Burg or KOTA Meyer. When he eventually comes on. We talk about their accolades almost like it's like a football team. You know, it's like pumping up these things. So when he goes on this army show on veterans on Veterans Day, you think that he's going to talk about some of the great things about being a leader. How people look at him as one of the most Braith people ever to serve in the armed forces. That's not his reaction. Listen to his interview on this radio show for years. Now, Audie Murphy has been a well known motion picture star. But he is known also as the most decorated soldier of World War Two. What has stayed in his mind? What does he remember most about that time of his life to find out we go now to our man in Hollywood benched? Angelo, Carbone Davinci Dangelo on this Veterans Day. We've moved out. Armie our microphone to Hollywood California to talk to a man who has not only well known to the American public. But also highly respected by the military services is a major in the United States army reserve America's most decorated hero of World War Two is motion picture star. Audie murphy. Audie welcome to the army. Our thanks this. Nice. See again, only how long were you in the service actually facial time events about three years. But it I show you seen much longer. Did you spend most of your service in Europe, practically all of it? I I had my basic training in Texas and little bit put need Maryland than I don't know with African you a commissioned right toward the close of the war. Why you in nineteen forty four and somewhere in France forgotten France all up to me in those days, well audience a man who is on with every decoration this country award and going back to your service before you commissioned. As sergeant Audie Murphy. Let's say would you tell her? Listeners. What was your most memorable experience of World War Two? Of course, I had had many in. I sometimes remember them, not always was great pleasure. But I think I'd have to say that. The greatest thing that happened to me was not as a sergeant. But as a second Lieutenant was first Lieutenant I've tried to forget all these things you see I don't remember my rank at the end of war. I think it was I and this was forgotten the date, but I was on a train going for the rest of the area food all about three or four day pass. And the announcement that the war in Europe was over and there's nothing that could top that for me. This was your most memorable day. It certainly was because the as I say those three years it seemed much longer than they really were. And I saw a lot of good. Good men. Come and go and a lot of them is the no especially in remember this day or still there. When you heard the what was over. What was your first daughter reaction? Well, coming home, again, I started think about home for change, which we didn't dare think before because as you know, lifting day-today minute to minute in most cases. And so I was a little frightened strange as it might seem. I didn't know what I do when I got home, and I felt just a loom empty and sad lonely about the whole thing. I'll I was very happy to was over. Suddenly didn't feel that. I had a home. Well, audie. We've certainly come a long way since then haven't we? Yes. So he have been as you well know country and most of the free world for that matter taken along step forward in many fields, we'll were too and especially in the development of weapons and weapons of mass destruction and might add that I've seen them those weapons tested and leave me some of them do staggered imagination. And that's why I think it's it's very important that each of us. So we are veterans on this day and pledge ourselves to keep our country strong into even greater support to all branches of I'm the Terry services. Well, thank you very much. Audie murphy. This is army correspondent Vince Dangelo returning to the army, our I think one of the most shocking and understated things about that interview with him is that he talks about not the accolades that he gets. Whatever you kit whenever you earned the medal of honor. You've gotta go through some horrific shit. So him describing the best day for him over the years that he served was the day that he found out was over. I thought it was poetic. Yeah. It was. It was very very nice to hear him say that just very powerful in, you know, his legacy still lives on today in the army as an NCO you can be awarded the sergeant sergeant Audie Murphy award because actually before he was a officer. He received a battlefield commission. He was a euros through the enlisted ranks and actually NCO's now will get mad if you referred to as an officer. But yeah, the the sergeant Audie Audie Murphy award is still very prevalent in the army today given to NCO's who display all the attributes and qualities that he displayed in you, get inducted into the sergeant Audie Murphy club. So he's still a name that is well known in the US army, and as we said definitely read up about. Them because he led a very full life in only forty six years and my shadow to the navy got revoked today, I'm giving a new shout. Shout out short villas five five one of the best sergeants I ever ever worked with. He was with two nine in Marsha. He was probably five four and the is respected the baby would've followed him anywhere. Also reading we talked about last week reading about general Krulak who was sidefoot three. I think like like Marine Corps legend so shutouts in the show. Fill is out there. Lasts less fun fact about Audie Murphy though, he's buried in Arlington National Serra cemetery. He is the second most visited gravesite behind only president Kennedy. Wow, that's pretty cool. All right. Let's go to round number five. Number five. This one's kind of depressing one. The suicide rate is at an all time high. It's at a ten year high among active duty marines. So I think oftentimes we, you know, we're talking about Audie Murphy and people PTSD is always in the news. It's always something to talk about. And I was racking my brain trying to think suicide rate among active duty marines, and they said many most often they see it's it's people have not deployed, and I've been racking my brain trying to think of why this is thing happening and part of me thinks you think it might be because they look at people coming back from deployment in their frayed to ask for help. Because they feel like well, what would I need help for its these guys are coming back. I haven't gone yet. Like, I've just been racking my brain after reading this story trying to figure out how it's a really good question because I'm sitting here. Taking in. I really I can't come up with anything Nancy to that question. I can't imagine why guys who are not deploying who are just in the marines would have a reason to kill themselves. No, that's I mean to. But I think it's not that it's not that. They don't have a reason or something like that. But it's that they're afraid to seek help. They probably do. I obviously they have reasons, but I'm just saying like, I don't even know like why they wouldn't get help. But also, I think it's the culture of there's an inherent toughness. And I think that there's still this false perception that if you need to go get mental health treatment, it involves a weakness, and it's a little bit more understandable. I think in the culture of the Marine Corps, if you need help if you've been to combat you've been dangerous places not so much if you've been and it was people like me when I was that caused that kinda shit like whenever I would go. I remember very specifically. There was an air force person. Who? Who always had a deployment prior to mind with my counselor in my counselor one day told me he was like, yeah, it's different. Like, we have different people come in. He's like, obviously, you have issues that stem from combat, but I have other people like an air force. This rank add she comes in after she talks about how she had a stressful time on her trip to Chile with the band, and I was like chili like the country of Chile, and I remember going back to my unit in absolutely roasted this because they were in getting mental health treatment in they had only went to Chile, and I was like what the fuck this happened in Chile like why would you need this? I have no idea she was like sexually assaulted or raped or what could possibly happen to her. But I remember being a huge part of the culture that was a problem in. I would say that around junior marines of all things that I did as a leader those of the things that I wish I could take back the most. But I think all. Also, something doesn't have to happen to you for you to be experiencing, depression, suicidal thoughts. So I think a lot of times they feel like they need to have a reason to go or their shame to go. And I think you can still be a wonderful amazing marine army's soldier, sailor, whatever NB dealing with depression. I've been open about it. I suffered from depression, and I still function and I still get through, but I have to seek out for it in. That's just the way that it goes. But it is hard to take that first step in a specially when you're in like you're saying that it is so scary. Because can I read this really quick hill? The number of confirmed been suspected suicides in the active duty Marine Corps reached a ten year high in twenty eighteen with fifty seven cases, plus another eighteen rains in the reserves. The sources are saying the services concerned that they may have seen seventy five suicides even with extensive mental health programs available. Many of the cases are young marines. Who have not deployed? Overseas and have not been in combat a situation that has now being seen in other branches of the military as well. And part of me wanted to ask when they say sort Marine Corps sources they're confused because even with the extensive mental health programs available. I'm sorry when I was in. I did not know what if I had tough times. I just sucked it up because I wish that I hadn't I wish that I had known where I could go at the time to seek help. Because I was I was afraid that if I did I would lose my secret clearance afraid while I'm at lose opportunities, and I know via who talked to 'cause it's like if I tell this one person everything could be ruined. Chaps? It's like you said, and we've had people reach out to us and confirm that it still the cultures there. It's a career killer. If you say, you have mental health issues, it's an absolute career killer, and guys are just just afraid and Kate. I have no idea. Right. Had no idea that help was available to me if I needed it when I was still in. So you're not alone in that. I know you, but you say it's like a check in the box. You know, like when you have these stupid ass briefings that you go to before like a long break or something like that. When the reality is the culture is still by large. We had somebody reach out to the diem told me the same things like if you go in and you have a feel lap coming up, and you say that I need to go see the wizard than everybody. Just assumes you're doing it because your bitch. And you don't wanna go to the field was that what they call it the wizard going to always dowry. Will that right there that that's a problem too? You know, you call you have a derogatory name for seeking help for mental health the wizard. Imagine that still thing if you're active duty marine reach out to us. Let let us know they say if you gotta go see the wizard go see the wizard because I also started when I was at boot camp to can't ever remember bootcamp if you said that you were you were feeling mental health issues, or if you wanted to kill yourself ju- member what they would do Kate. They would put your bunk in the middle of the barracks floor. You're surrounded by everybody or the center of attention. And then people had to stay up all night with red a red flashlight shining on you all night long 'til circling like sharks every with with like two or three moonbeams around you two or three. Flashlights? And it was actually purple member. They would come combine the red and blue together and Erbil purple was the color for mental health. So you'd have a purple boomlet movie on your time is the wizard suicide launch if you're listening, and you're a mental health expert, and you're like, you guys are any. It's you don't know what you're talk. About please. Please DM's. It just that. This is me speculating because it breaks my heart. I I've had friends who've committed suicide in the military, and it is it's just gut wrenching because it's your brothers. It's your family when it happens you feel like you're a bad family members feel like sometime let them down. And you wish you could go back in time. And know what to do? But I think it is. Like what the fuck do you do? I think that you feel that way a lot of times as the person who wants to help someone out to you feel uncomfortable. If you do see those signs going through because everybody feels awkward about it. I mean, if there is no comfortable way of going through be like, hey, dude up your poster, hey, lady, I've seen some of your post lately in their kind of concerning. Like, that's an uncomfortable thing to do. But it's something that we've got to be better at so. But if that's the case, I would suggest I if you are a junior person or even a young NCO it and you're noticing these things in your uncomfortable. About that go to your leadership and say, hey, hey, Sarah, ma'am. I've noticed these things and I don't feel comfortable approaching. You know, Joe? But I think somebody needs to I think that's responsible thing to do. And I think there's a big responsibility on leadership across the military to continue to end the stigma around getting help for mental health. I feel like that sounds easy. But there's also the culture don't be a buddy fucker don't be a blue falcon. And I feel like you know, if you're off, and that's a Sumi. That's good leadership. I mean, I know plenty of command to fucked shit like that up majorly, and what not tough mainly. Maybe maybe maybe it's a digital training for for for leaders. You know, NCO's and officers to deal with these sorts of things maybe we need to implement that into our military into their curriculum. So that when they situations do arise and make no mistake. These problems are not gonna ever go away. They knew you know, what I think the way that. I've you the suicide epidemic in the military in general, it's going to be like the culture of leaders or bosses with Chattos. That's our guys are our generation is going to come up with leaders that are staying that understanding recognize that it's such a big problem that eventually the stigma is not going to be there because you had like the old who had that persona of its weakness. And I think that a lot of people that are our age are younger than us realize that it's part of the game in if you don't pay attention to it. It will eat your unit up from the inside out it just. Absolutely will. So we have to get taken care of. And you can't be a little can't be a little bitch leader think that you make yourself look strong by situating that others are week because they need to go. See the wizard. I love the phrase the wizard. I think it's great. I still use it. Whenever I go. Tell my wife like I put it in our Google shared calendar. Like, I have an appointment with the wizard at one o'clock, and I. The little one in front of my face. I think the wizard name is very apropos. All right. Let's let's move on to save round alibi. The first one Kate. I'm excited for you're actually gonna go to the rough and rowdy, aren't you? Yes. I'm gonna go to Ratner I'm gonna try to on my way into the events all week long. I know that the NFL has banned far from going to media day tonight, but vise adapted. Overthrow right. So I'm thinking about going and doing some Intel anyway because somebody does seem. Slither my way in I think all week long, and it just leaves them my way into stuff and see how I can get in the mix shock, Harry Potter house Letheren. I feel like I'm here though. I. But yeah, I'm excited. The next time we talk will be the next up. So that will be Friday by then it'll be the eve of reference so by then I'll have all the scoops on what's happening down here in the house. Maybe a possible military thing going on Thursday, you're to some excited about that. And the only other thing, of course, always giving him shot up, but even active duty can go to get headstrong dot org and seek free no paperwork needed mental health help. But like, no one will ever know about. So if you are frayed, you're in active duty, your percussions or something get headstrong dot org. Check it out. No shame to the middle health game. That's my save around tones fucking retreat. Way. There's only a couple bathrooms of yearly enough to all morning. I like everybody share like, okay. Everybody's up here. So finally, I'm been watching the cars leave like fake. Include that in the pod. Gotta take effect. She it. Oh my goodness to ups. To poops. Everybody knows roles.
ZBT #159: Actually The VA Is Still Messed Up
"Today's episode zero block thirty we have five rounds in the magazine round number one. The government might start monitoring veterans social media to see how happy and healthy. They are an effort to lower the amount of claims that the VA meanwhile, the wars way John round number two. A Colorado veteran was sentenced to pay one point three million dollars in restitution to the VA for pretending to be blind since nineteen sixty nine. Years are no that's more Jesus. That's forty forty forty years of blind goofing at the via love it round number three. It's almost fifty years. It's a lot of years. It's a lie. No, it is very shit. Fifty thirty bad at math. Jeez. Round number three a ninety four year old blind World War Two veteran would just try downhill skiing for the first time you hopped in a sled designed for blind folks and had the mountain wind whipping in his face. He looked absolutely thrilled by going on the mound. What a beautiful picture that was you're gonna love seeing that on the pod round number four bad. News motor t- robots might be taking your job as the army gets its first driverless vehicles and round number five game of thrones talk is time that stance gets miratory promotion Z sergeant major material if I've ever seen in all that is going to be brought to you by our friends at SimpliSafe, I promise last week that I would do it. Here we go. Alarm, the willies that he paddock there are dozens of words for fear, but just one Ford acceptable home security company to stop there at your front door. Definitely faith is home security that know how it fits the fear last. This is an award winning twenty four seven protection that protects your home. Throw it all through brothers lockouts bug Lous play faith has one award. But all the tech experts that count the it's called it the best home security. It's two time. What a see that editors award. 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He's got to have your parents are in the army. That's it. Yeah. Until I saw that post on there by thirties, Instagram. I had no idea. I did not know he was an army brat. Yeah. I think I think it's pretty much done with the military as finally was green beret Degi very decorated too. Yeah. Yeah. He he's awesome shit and be a Phnom. No. I mean, that's. Into like as men would always that. He always had them prepared. Then it made whenever he had fellow soldiers that were woods is like that worked with Earl Woods. They would talk about. How meticulous? He was with tiger at it made sense. Because that's how he was with his men to bury by the book, you're gonna do this over and over and over till you get right in tiger talked about how he hated it. But then that's how it became so good because he was yelled rolled over and over over by Lieutenant Colonel that shit. Yeah. That's I that's one of the explanations. As to why tiger was very much into the call of duty type video games, and why he would go and try to train with the seals because he was just trying to emulate status best. He could without actually did, you know that Tiger Woods was a vet, bro. God he would do like training like navy training because he was so into call duty. And so into that culture. A lot of his best friends are like seals shit. What? Yes, we're not. We're not we're not telling you went at one point injury. Attic rant his truck. At one point his career. He considered giving up golf and joining the military. That's no BS. Been pissed that. Gracious. Well, if he was and we can go into round one if he was he was get monitored by the that's what the Trump administration would like to do with the new policy. This comes from Forbes. They say new policy proposed by the Trump administration calls for surveillance of disabled people social media profiles to determine the necessity of their disability benefits. The proposal which reported the aims to cut down on the number of fraudulent. Disability claims would monitor the profiles of disabled people in flag contents that shows him doing physical activities the administration has been working closely with social security ministration in effort to reduce fos claims believing that social media holds a cash of information regarding the eligibility of social security disability. They believe that by monitoring the social media accounts of disability recipients they can root out false claims reduce overall amount of money spent on these programs if they're doing this with the VA at so fucked up man up. Yeah. But you know, what I don't I we don't age she here. But this smells of a lot of people who are up there in years who think this is a good idea who think like, oh, we can just watch people social media and get a good idea of what's going on in their life. That is the biggest crock because for the most part by large. I think certain people are better about being very forthright on their social media. But a lot of people are very very fake on the social media. So I wouldn't say a lot of you all people most people are. Yeah. Just pains rosier picture than what reality is makes life. Look so much better than it is. I also wanna say what? In the face to put money towards something like this. If that's going to be the case when between October twenty seventeen November twenty eighteen nineteen veterans die by suicide on the grounds of the VA medical facilities. Yeah. That I mean and one year focus on this light you coming out like Georgia whenever I guy goes into the waiting room and kills himself Bozon itself and kills himself in the middle of the VA. Those types of things are happening all the time. But I mean, even more so than that like the act like the how you protray yourself on social media who you are going to be seeing themselves struggle like guys just forgot my appointments again us as much man brain injury. Makes it difficult for me to pay my bills central collectors again suck haters like nobody does that. Nobody about all their suicide thoughts, and how depressed they are via social media. And it's just it's so funny because you see. See like a couple of get divorced. And everyone's got they hill. So happy like, oh, really like other. We're going to post the time, you know, that Dibaba was was stepping out on Susan cheating on him with their secretary. He's gonna put that over social media. Of course, not. So that's just this is shows me that that got madman again. No. But I mean, this shows me like you've got people that are making these calls that just have no idea what is actually going on with social media. Just very uninformed. If you think you can gain any sort of perspective in someone's life, true perspective by looking at their souls media. Yeah. The whole thing just is facing. If they spent any money on this at all. I mean, the perspective that people have is just such a snippet of everything. Like, I remember my wife gets so pissed if I put a picture of me like taking my kids out to ice cream or something like that is like a picture of me McCartney cost eight nice crane inevitably you'll have people be like oh chapter. Such a great dad like you dad goals like it's is spring like for out the ice should be the barometer of success. Just like if I post a picture of myself out at a park like all look this month. Fucker? He's out at a park. He thinks he doesn't depression her depressions big issue for you. Yeah. I see smiling. His picture you bitch, light defrauding the government. It's just a snack a snippet of what's going on in your life. Is this ridiculous to assume that end again, it might be beneficial for me if they do that because I spent last night clapping back gotta tires on Twitter. So maybe like, yeah. This bitch crazy to guard. So good. I know I know, but maybe that then they'd see maybe like we need to parading. She's gonna be the roof this fun that ball. This one's got issues. Chaps chaps, do you? This is hard for me to say, do you get in trouble for your social media, sometimes because sometimes I will get a screen shot of a tweet or a picture will be up on Instagram, and I get yelled at pulled take it down or made fun of with romance. That doesn't have. Actually, my mom there. One day. My dad just posted a picture of my mom, and I we were going to baby shower, and we looked super cute, but he like dad's just take the worst pictures, and it was like, my mom, and I look Gargo's posted on his Instagram the right away, my mom texted him take that picture down right now. Yeah. Yeah. Reality. Yes. Of course. I guess. I mean yesterday, I posted a picture of Tiger Woods celebrating and has said when my wife says making and she was like, do you really have to shit on their Mike? It's just content bay that's solid as little bit content. For a while whenever I put like the bogies sunglass emoji. Both each is like stop doing. Gotta love it. Gotta love it. Yes. So run down that we had had sex eleven hundred fifty times she called me that night. And she was. Buyer. Would you do that? So if any if anyone from the VA is is listening, please take this to your superiors and have listened to this episode. This the stupidest freaking idea ever. And there could be so many better places to spend our money. Yeah. I can't imagine. There's that big a big group of people out there who are actually doing that. Are let's move onto round two. Brown ever to a Colorado man has been sentenced to the year in prison for defrauding the department of veterans affairs out of nearly one point three million dollars by pretending to be blind. Mike Blee Northland was sentenced Wednesday in order to pay the VA one point two seven million dollars in restitution investigate investigators that bleeds Vietnam veteran who started getting disability payments and nineteen sixty nine for visual impairment. He did have a minor problem in his eyesight, but he started to exaggerate how bad it was the US attorney said Justice may be blind. But Mr. bleed isn't what if in closing line from Turkey there, so air sing, man? So embarrassing. Wow. It certainly I'm just kind of maybe a little surprise though, because they're certain things that you could certainly fudge and the VA would have a hard time calling you out on it. But being blind. I feel like you can test someone's vision till that Stevie Wonder, I mean, do you think they were monitoring social media like, hey, mister, please on a jet ski. They they figured out. Fifty of active, you're blind. I mean, honestly, if you spend fifty years acting like you're blind. You are centrally blind like more or less acting like you get save for that long. You really can't see I could see how you get into a slippery slope like that like with my ankle. I basically use my ankle as an excuse for everything. Like, my for all intents and purposes for yard work around my house cleaning up stuff for lifting anything heavy in and out of my garage, my ankles, essentially, shattered hurts a little bit from time to time. But I have everyone in my household believing that I basically need a replacement. Yeah. Mr. mean is gone wrong? Mom, my stomach problems of causing me to aren't really bad as you guys know. So that's sorry about it. Now, you both like your underplaying these issues. I think chaps I'm senior ankles in action see them snapping on that wheel vehicle, whatever that thing was when we were. Were in Dallas. You're like twigs on osteoporosis twigs and cons. I smelled your hearts my God. I mean, you're both falling apart. There's no doubt about it. Neither of you exaggerate not operate on the assumption that you're the picture of health. Last a broken. Does. You've had you've had a broken nose broken ribs broken arm since you've been on the podcast in a. Yeah. That's a good point. That is a really good point. Meanwhile, chops I haven't broken anything knock on one second came back to this guy enough about me. I just are fifty years. I wanna know if this guy was married like, and what did he like shuffling with the stick with like the seeing is steak? Did he have dot like how did he pull this off for fifty years, and how doctors never reassess him and be like, actually, he's not blind? Like, how did it go for fifty years? What happened is that he gets wheeled into the VA. He has those big all black glasses on that cover like three quarters of the they that he's done to prepare to be blind watched bone, thugs harmonies crossroads video over and over again time up every. Picks up his glasses. It's like a mismile child show and Charles is he just like goes off. I wouldn't agree. They're like, Dan he is blind. Mid like me bitch, chose the mountain. Yeah. It's just a tough thing to do pretend to be blind for fifty years. So you almost have to give him some credit for pulling this off for fifty years. I'll never any credit. That's a promise not not decide track. But I'm about to the I've watched this documentary this weekend about this. Have you ever heard of Munchausen by proxy? Oh, yes. Yeah. I know. I think I know what you're talking about keeping Joe whatever. But this Ma on had her daughter pretend that she couldn't walk for twenty five years now five years wheelchair and then at night the girl would have up and be like dancing around the house. Stretch. Like what the fuck for like? And they did it for a free house free trips to Disney whatever, but it just stuff like this is amazing to me. How far people will go when really? I like, what do you think you could pretend to half? Oh, I think I could pretend to have. Oh. I guess forget like I got spaghetti arms. They'll snap. If I lived anything like that like something like that. Because I do. I used to do a really good impersonation of my grandfather who had polio walk around, and I would act like I had polio leg. Whereas this basically had no nerve endings in it where I could walk. And I think it was hilarious. Now looking back out. Do it target and shit. Like, I just be cruise through target acting like I had a dead leg. And now, I have friends who have actual like blown their leg off. And they're using like a prosthetic. And I'm like, yeah. Probably was best. Yeah. It wasn't extremely thoughtful good call there being hot twenty twenty. But you know, it's always so funny to me too. And they they order these people to pay the money back. You think Mr. Bligh was I'm sorry. Mr. Blake you lay. He just has that one point three million just sitting around probably not just think it's when they say they've voted to pay him back when point three million doesn't have one point three million. Yeah, he's not getting that back end. He's no he's gotta be seven years old seventy years old what he inforal timer brand. Imagine if he is having trouble with this is getting old. Why is it prison? He's backing like what's wrong and trouble with my eyes. Okay, blee. Okay. All right. Yeah. Okay. On the yard Blee. Yeah. All right. Let's move on. We all live on energy drink and the guys from rock Paktis, these rough pack energy shot and they're great. It's like what that a giant. 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We go from a photo blind to a true blind, man. A ninety four year old World War Two veteran. Who's actually legally blind is not one to back away from challenge. Warren hair. A navy veteran from Sioux Falls, South Dakota, recently went downhill skiing at a special winter sports, Colorado. I'm the type of guy who's inquisitive about everything higher said higher was among about four hundred veterans with disabilities. Participated in the national disabled veterans winter sports clinic on April second higher who is blind in his right eye has poor vision in his left said cruising down Snowmass mountain guided sled type vehicle was quote, a little scary. But a lot of fun. And he said he loved the Trenton and the wind in his face while being guided down the mountain as well as being able to do something that all of the young people do what a great little story to hear that. Yeah. That's really cool that disabled veterans. Sports clinic began in nineteen eighty-seven had like ninety participants. Now, they're up to over four hundred and these veterans are they say on the website profoundly disabled, they have really serious brain injuries. Or they're missing limbs are there, and this gives them a chance to get back out. And especially I feel like if you have injuries like that you probably look at winter sports and things used to love, and I can never do that again meant to be shown that you can adapt the way you do it. And do it again is probably a very powerful, very cool thing. I know even if he wasn't blind. The fact that he's ninety four years old in skiing. Names pretty dangerous. I mean that was like an H W use the do. Yes. Celebrated ninety fifth birthday doing a health like jump from plane seems like your bones would snap mine. Wait in. Now. My my God. I get nervous when my mom like speed walks. Too fast to get the mail, Mike what low sixty nothing years on like. Take it easy ill fuzzy britches. But five what are you really looking forward to at that one life? You've lived a full life or World War Two veteran. Everybody respects you. You're blind. Like, I've always thought since the time. I was like eleven that. If I ever got to like ninety five years old probably a hundred years old, I would like to go skydiving too. But I wanna go skydiving right before like the Super Bowl happens like above the Super Bowl arena. And then just not pull my shoot whenever up -solutely smashed myself to the fifty are light at the Super Bowl and know that I like interrupted everything right there on the seal of the NFL this absolutely obliterate myself right in the middle of the field from skydiving center of attention for your. I was gonna say that's one way to get remembered forever. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You wouldn't soon be forgotten. I mean, heroes get remember legends never die. That'd be a legendary move Trumpster. But not to mention to this guy is doing. Skiing skiing, physically taxing activity spor. My God chide skiing, and especially like if you pizza when you're supposed French fry. I've never tried skiing. I've wants no boarding one time. I woke up the next day and felt like I got hit by a fucking car. Like every muscle in your body gets worked you do shit like that. It's crazy. Yeah. Ninety four I'm specially snowboarding with your your core. 'cause you gotta sit down and stand up so much. It's very very taxing. As the worst time I've ever had in my life. Honestly, everybody loves it snowboarding to me is fucking terrible. Like, no, you're wrong. You're wrong Brigham blast. It's a blast. I like it. But it's I think it's terrible. I'll never go again when I got back from Iraq. I went in Boone, North Carolina Boone, and dude, it was just constantly up and down all this work for couple minutes of going down the hill. When you don't suck at it. It's a lot of fun. So as long as you're not falling all the time. Like that. It's a lot more fun. Nobody else following just not again, we're going to circle this back to your ankles. And I'm gonna say tried a lot probably I mean, I probably a lot. But either way even standing up like I don't don't thing that I like where you fall really hard is tubing I'll tube. All that. Oh, me too, buddy. I think you, and I are the most avid tubers barstools sports gonna say doing something. That's my wheelhouse. Both on the letter and on mountainsides, but me until like, I don't really like any winter sports. Like that Jeff realize like the objective snowboarding is not to fall. No cons. I didn't realize that. Thanks. I mean, you're talking about it sucks because you're falling. All the time. You keep talking about falling. You're not supposed to fall. Like when I snowboard. I don't I get down the mountain. I don't fall cool humble brag on a show voter to steal the story about a fantastic little ninety four year old World War Two veteran. Just make it about you being good at anything to make it about me come on. And I like how we also skipped over the fact it was really dirt sport for this. Dude is sitting in a chair like. Like activate and his core. He's blind and share that says blind steer like in a big orange sticker that across this. Jess not like he's doing DP yoga or he's not gonna I'm not doing moguls here. I do love the thought of the wind whipping his face going down the mountain in the sunshine. Now, I love that. I think that's very cool. Yeah. That's probably something. He hasn't experienced in a very long time. So good for him. Yeah. Earned it that in sex? Are let's move on. All right, guys. Move side motor t you are getting fucking outsource coming from the observer the army just announced that we will be seeing driverless combat destructs deployed to help soldiers void accidental casualties caused by driving the test run occurred for bliss for ten of these trucks through unmanned driving trials with sixty more test trucks due to arrive this year, and the Pentagon has already allocated another three point seven billion with the b for research that will cover these unmanned autonomous technologies. And a lot of people are saying the odds are very high that in the military on bases and overseas there will be unmanned vehicles well before civilian civilians than they think about really be a thing for us in the civilian world for probably decades past it. So Uber's chief scientists predicted that depending on infrastructure factors and stuff like that. They'll be on basis way sooner. So. I just think this'll be huge for designated driving on post. I mean, you never have to find another arrive alive card again. Yeah. I think there could be a lot of benefits going for leg. I imagined the combat like if think about how many times you had to send transport to like, a remote fob like with food on things like that whenever you're dealing with these the only issue is that they're so secretive about this technology that if something goes wrong tire goes out. There's not gonna be anybody to blow it up in place out of magin that they have like a there's probably something inside. That will be laced with explosives, so it could blow it up itself in place. Did you know you have to do that shit? You're you're probably right. Any coming up something like that in our military that has heightened technology like that? It's usually a manual process that we blow it up. But yeah, I would imagine chaps if there's no one there to blow it up you get a do it some other way. And I like it chat for the example, you gave for transporting supplies or food that nature. I don't think I would like this. If it were myself in combat because I feel like these vehicles will be designed to drive the exact right speed limits, and they will not be able to react in accommodates. It wouldn't be. I don't think that they would ever get point where they put people inside it in just a robot. That drives you that's just doesn't make any sense at all even if you're just like transporting. I don't know. I see and they've made it in a story. Like, listen, we're working on this technology. We're moving forward with that. But we don't quite know how the fuck we're gonna use yet. But reminds me I read a book recently where they were talking about helicopters in the military when that first came about at first all these. Top Googlers in the military like of flying rotor like what what are we going to do with that will ever help us in and more doctrine developed in? They're like oh shit. These are super fucking useful million different ways. So I think like who knows how it's going to help time bad take. What are we going to use these helicopters in these? Victor general Krulak was the first to be like, let's like spy rigging and putting extra guys on there and making the bigger and the higher ups like get the fuck outta here. Like it was so not overseas. If time because the technology, I guess for the time it's just kinda like that might be up there with the internet isn't going to be a thing that catches on seeing that from time around every now, and then we're dude wrote this big op-ed how the internet and now you can't find a hard copy of his blog, but you can find it anywhere on the internet two seconds mandate. Yeah. Internet's not gonna work or the military can't use helicopters, Mike and see a lot of people are looking at this going unmanned vehicles like what, but I can have solic- over time this becoming a huge fucking thing, especially because the military to save on manpower. If they can do that, you know, we're just like a completely unmanned military like where would dry right precision drones precision vehicles intelligence those tiny. Little have you guys seen those instagrams of the tiny little be size fucking cameras that they send around. Listen. They look like bugs. Yeah. Going all over the place. Does it scare you guys? Although the thought of just being completely unmanned military like the Dell 'cause I've never read nineteen eighty four to completion. So I'm not worried about him. And does freak me out civically because of hacking, I mean, God forbid like somebody figures out how to get into our drones in our vehicles are like the turn on us. It was a lot more advanced than we ever thought. Whatever we were there and the camel spiders were actually drones, dude. What if you're I mean, it could be crazy? I love the thought of a just a disgruntled veteran hacker who like sees a field of these vehicles and just makes them to donuts constantly like doesn't like somebody who just friendly fucks it to massive but other than that. Yeah. I don't know. But I definitely think for sure will be seeing more the end. I mean, maybe it is just going to be used for rival live cards. You're drunk on on post here. The bowling alley needs to get back up in one of those suckers. Let's buggy take your home. You gotta do a slider. You gotta stay in your honor, courage commitment card. And you're set. Right. Let's moved around five. All right round. Number five. Get a little game of thrones, talk and note, the Tuesday, but I wanted to talk about game of thrones a little bit one because going back to our VA talk. My memory is so fucking bad that I was like, you know, what I wish that there was like an hour long recap. That HBO would have done about the season that had happened before. I still think they should do that. They should agree. Throw two years man two years in between that personas. That's a great point. And actually, I made it. No, I have never watched game of thrones. And I said yesterday, I was like, you know, what I'll just watch us last season. I more or less have an idea of some of the things prising to me because you watch everything about everything. I know I just game cans just never struck me as something that I would be in too. So I just never watched it. And then just now with the way the internet is I just feel like I have to watch it, otherwise I'll feel left out and somebody sent me a link and it's an hour long recap. I think of the entire series to get you caught up share that YouTube if you'd like the whole thing is seventy seven hours long talking to big cap before it happened. And I did watch season seven the final episode again. It was like watching it. The first time in Brennan reserve bitch. I was going through out so nervous. What's happened a little figure? What's gonna happen? Assange was going to have artists, and I was nervous the entire time. Rewatch ING it texting. Wife texting big cat like holy shit. Dude. I completely forgot that. They had this. Spoiler alert. Bigtime? Haven't watched it. I forgot they had the dead dragon than the dead dragon took down the fucking wall. How do you forget that? Chuck, you crazy is you will remember with great detail stories from your time in the military that happened a decade ago. But remember that it's shorter term. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. How the ballots, but yes. So so what did you guys think of this for step aside? So I watched it in my neighborhood gay bar last night. And they called the gay G Y M E M thrones game of thrones. And they had a drag Queen named petty cakes Bill most Kate story just watch game of thrones. You got to do it with drag queens. They had a drag Queen who was dressed up like deniro's who kicked off the show by doing a monologue of quotes. And then the the curtain ripped open and she started singing. And she had she had dragon fire that she was like slinging all around anyway. And then they stopped the show halfway through to give out shots and make fun of all of us are being too poor for HBO. They're like look at that. You dumb pours in here without a Honey. Hey. Really fun. But and to just watching it with this group and this bar anytime. One of the women said something sassy in the show. They're all like at it. Freaking out. Should I was quite the experience to watch with the face? Everyone was so fucking into. It was so much fun. And then and then afterwards for no reason, she did a dance number two that song met me snail. Yo, dick. What does this have to do with game of thrones? But anyways. She was still dresses deniers, I'm rambling. I thought. It was great. I had fun time watching it and every Sunday she's going to be a different character. So that's like my bar. I'm going to watch it. And now every Sunday. So I don't really care so much about the the show as I do the Beyonce. But that my ram your hand movements. Have decidedly changed as you tell the story. And I wish people could really see an enjoy the hand movements of that you're getting 'cause you're really getting into this. I was. I had a real hoot point in the show that gave you a military feel. They are what's what's part when the in the beginning when they were marching I was really impressed with how tight their formation ones at somebody needed to call QuickTime March in that bitch real. Ban in step for that long. No, thanks. I mean, they definitely have good discipline. I will give them that the unsullied have big time discipline with their storage shit like that. But just called quick time. If you're people mover, that's what we need to be doing. Also, I think too talking there's a little logistics talk in there for all the supply of us. This is what I wanna talk about. I was so happy. That's why thinks should be promoted. I think she should be miratory promoted because the narrative wasn't thinking about that. She was just thinking about what needed to happen in who needs the bow down to her Jetta. Very battalion commander type attitude about her is like all about what I need to do as long as everybody's kissing. The ring bending the knee. That's all she cared about signs was like, there's a lot more logistics in this who's gonna feed all these fucking people lose gonna feed these fucking dragons who's gonna make the plans of how we're going to go and do all this stuff. It's. All going to fall on sons seized her and John snow. Jon snow was is I would like to think that he's probably starting to major in Santa's actually the company gunning home. I did not say they were very distraught. When they had only eighteen goats, I think it was for the dragon Steet. Yeah. But at a big time moment when she said what what a dragon, even eat whatever they want. Yeah. That was great line. I move. When are they gonna stop growing? Are. They like old man ears like for they just grow forever because they've been getting bigger and bigger and bigger at some point. You gotta think that the drag it stops, bro. Yes. Maybe the crocodiles that way where they don't stop grown are any of you. So proclaimed game of thrones experts that you can explain things to me as we go. I know thought that I was like if you'd asked me before I watched the phasing seven ending again. I have no idea. What's happening? I mean, I remember whenever I see people but details, I don't know. How people do that like Elliott knit house? She goes back and forth and Canadian all these tiny little details. No. Yeah. She would be the line at the office. There's there's people who are. So like I'm into Bill like I was there for the. Like out of the four of us. I'm probably your best bet. All right, good. All right. I'm gonna have a lot of I don't know. Maybe not too many. But maybe a few of noxious questions because I haven't watched. But I also just liked to just again just be watching it and be in the mix. It's not I hope I wanna give special shot out to our guy wreak. I hope that wreak has a real turnaround. He started at the end of season seven where he beat the shit out of that one dude on the beach goes for rescues sisters, get headbutted in the face in his down for the count. But hopefully, he has redemption story because my fellow getting his dick like cut completely off can boss cut off completely embarrassed in front of everybody. I hope that wreak does big time things. That's what I hope redemption story from rake. You know, what I'm gonna do today though. I do this basically with any sort of our long shows recaps online, very helpful. So really groundbreaking stuff that I'm doing thank. Oh, awesome. Cons while snow. Oh, boarding not following. Let's move on to save alibis. I'm going to send so many snowboarding pictures and videos you guys in the group chat. Coop. Ocu-? We haven't. He's rounds. Alibis. Yeah. I do Chaffetz. What the hell are those new shoes? You got. Oh, man. Yeah. What did they look like sneaker bottom souls? But then it's like a wicker basket around your foot, and then there's a cinch tie. Almost looks like five fifty cord what's going on with those buddy. Like did you do long of high tabs tangent win those did you win those raffle Detroit. I purchased those and because of all the internet. Hey in the show that I don't fuck with any of you think I ordered another pair in another color. So I'm going to lean into somebody called them. A basket weave eleven's. Yeah. Which I really like. So the I got these shoes because I don't like walking on the beach with flip flops. I think that it makes no sense that the design of flip flop is is it's flawed from the beginning. So when you walk in sand in flip flops it gets a little bit buried, and then it flings San all the way straight up your asshole. I guess all the way up your legs. Choose don't do that. But you also don't wanna wear sneakers on the beach. So I wanted to get these bad boys going to why this summer I needed some solid Hawaii shoes in these are that and nothing screams like goes air air with Orion of naps that you're just going to have super sandy shoes. No, you're lift pledge. You just do a little spaghetti straighter on the beach. Like what traps can I tell you Hawaii never really gets above eighty five. So the sand is not that hot. Just go barefoot, buddy. I don't wanna go barefoot. Why I just don't like it. I don't like to go barefoot who. Country singers write songs about the sand beneath your toes and everything also write songs about fucking their dogs. I'm not gonna do that. Either. I'm just saying you should enjoy enjoy the sand on your toes. But that's just me would those shoes if you showed up to PT and those with those be out of rags. I, you know, I don't I don't think. So because you can't see any actual open toes. I mean that one sergeant major got pissed off about finger toes. Maybe he would be upset about it. But I don't think so Prowse wearing them around the house. My wife absolutely hates them in. I was gonna get a, but I don't care. So embarrassed, I'm thirty six years old. I'm a dad I have terrible tattoos. I am not concerned about what other people think about my cloud chaps that's very evident just by you know, your general appearance. So now, I think the pool dad, I think for the most part you come across very cool. Cool dad, you just I just noticed chaps. Now, knowing you if you years, you really don't care about anybody's opinion, which I think is awesome. Yeah. I don't at all like I wear what I like brand. I think one time when we first started working with brand. He he was like I'd never know how you're gonna come up in dress. Either dress like I'm gonna go golfing today, or you could dress like you just walked out of a pack. Son. Never know what you're going to have this week. I said I said it all depends on your mood like if you come up for business like you dress like an adult. But if you're coming up for fun you dress like kid. Yeah. Speaking of close though. This weekend. This Friday right is the rough and rowdy. Right. And so, and I have a bet you have. I think you have shoes after is at. And I have like weighed ninety night Woodrow who is an army veteran. And so they picked people the office whose fighters are fighting against each other. So chap sky is fighting my guy in this fight. This Friday didn't get on Ruffin, Rodney broad dot com. But we made a bet that whoever's fighter loses. So like say chaps his fighter loses. I get to pick out chaps outfits for a whole week from goodwill. How weak, and if my fighter loses chaps gets to pick out what I have to wear for a whole week from goodwill, and I was sitting the other night. And this thought hit me I like sat up I was like, wait a minute. What the buck that you worked from home? You don't have to ride the subway. The Kate was the next time. I come up to New York. So be able oh thank God. Idiot. Have to go anywhere. I gotta be on the nose. The next time. I come up. Commute. Also, I mean, definitely not stop. You guys are forgetting it's nearly city. Nobody tonight anything you true. I judge the shit out of people every day because you feel so confident walking around thrift store closed a break. If you had to I would I would absolutely I cons pick pick one of our people. And then you also can be roped into. You gotta pick. What who what are the names again after that at and weighed ninety nine not gonna do this? Yes. To go to big boy job. There's no all right fine. Down. You have to come out for drinks about sending outfit. All right. I'll do the ninety nine guy who's that? All right. He's manner and he's army. All right. Good good. Speaking of army. My one other save round shutouts army lacrosse team who beat navy. I'm going to say over time in an overtime thriller on Saturday for the the win. It was great. Nope. That's it. That's all same. All right. We'll see everybody on our Friday show sound the retreat.
ZBT #269: WWII MoH Recipient Woody Williams + A Conversation
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A weekend is over and this weekend felt very different than the ones in the past and I mentioned it on the Chaplain Kate show yesterday, but I'll say it again here that over the last couple of weeks we have been clamoring for news. That wasn't Krahn virus related, and I wish that. This wasn't the news that we're leading the show off with now and not just. Just because I want to ignore it or stick my head in the sand about it's because we want true equality in this country where people feel like they are the same, no matter the color of their skin, and that is not how a majority are the minority of Americans feel right now, and it was painfully obvious. This weekend I can't remember a time looking through twitter. And feeling twitter instagram wherever the news in general and feeling so unbelievably helpless, and like you don't even though you have a huge voice on this show like we have. Hundreds of thousands of followers on twitter and instagram and things like that. Your voice just doesn't feel like enough feel so inadequate to help a big problem. You want to do something you want to do with the right way. It's so incredibly difficult to navigate that road and figure out what to do, and a lot of times I've learned. My wife is very helpful in this and her expertise, and and what she studies. A lot of times. We just gotTA. Shut the fuck up and listen and I I felt like I i. Try to do that a little bit more. This weekend was just to absorb the pain of what people were experiencing. Yeah, I. Think it's like so often. People feel like this. Inheritance need to go run right to social media and put something up and. I know personally my. There was some people wrestling with whether or not they should post something, and they said they didn't feel comfortable and and I think that's okay, too. Because it is a perfectly viable option to stand back and listen, you don't necessarily have to be the first one to say something. It's okay. Just listen as you said Yeah and I. There are those people that you're seeing I like I have people that I know personally who? Are Choosing right away to not listen and to look at it and say. Whatever and I just implore this people, please. This isn't happening. For no reason this is. This is happening for a reason and you would be. It's your loss. If you're not paying attention to it, and not at least stopping, dig your heels out for a second from where they're dug in, and just listen to what people are saying and how people are feeling, read the stories from people what they have been experiencing for a long long long time now. And again is happening for a reason, so it's it's really a rule of nature. When there's a bunch of Hornets that are swarming, there's usually a cause and what happened to the nest, and I think if we're we have to pay attention to the nest, and the cause of what actually struck the nest, because the the Hornets swarm rather than just the fact that the Hornets are swarming I think that's the way that. What K-. I'm I love. You always have like A. chaps way like those, but you always in a lot of different situations i. always enjoy your analogies. You're like you know. It's like a potato field. Making Fun of you. Honest to God, I think that's the like the pastoral training like their. Training there that I enjoyed that like the flowery language where you can actually see Jesus taught in parables, and that was for a reason, because we can understand what's going on, and just in in that same vein. That's what struck me this morning. Because a lot of times to talk about serious things that I know are going to be divisive on this show I, think that being in are being in our round being in what we do and we talk about military matters. Very, forthright and forthcoming about issues that we fail affect veterans, but not so much other political aspects. We don't get into the politics of this and we don't get into the politics of that. When we have politicians on the show, we have people like senator. Mix Alley who will be on the show on Friday at giving her perspective about her career. We've had a re. Republicans in Adam kindergarten. Democrats and Max rose but the. Common Denominator. There's there's a military touch of the show, and that's the reason why we talk about politics there, but I also don't believe that this is a political matter we can't. We can't look at race. Relations equality as being Democrat or Republican. We have to look at it as just a humanity sick this morning when I was sitting in my office taking a little time before. Interview Williams so you'll hear just a little bit. And I was going through some of the things that you would have started out my day reading about Jima again, reading about some of the Pacific campaigns and the exhaustion that took place there. And then I circled back and was destroying on twitter before the the the interview actually started, and I came across a video that I ended up tweeting, and it was. It was a words of Martin, Luther King and I think a lot of times we have co-opted Martin Luther King Junior's words and made them to appear like everything that he spoke about was peace, and just constantly quelling those storms that happen. That's not the case. Martin. Luther King was much more than that. It was much more than just a hallmark card. There is a clip that I came across today. I want all the listeners to hear, so we're going to pump that in and so you can hear from the man himself. Here's Martin Luther King Junior. I think America must see that riots do not develop out of. Certain conditions continue to exist in our society. which must be condemned as vigorously? As we condemn Ryan's. Then the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. What is it that America has failed to heal? Failed to hear the plight of the Negro, poor has worsened over the last few years. has failed to hear with the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And they didn't fail to hear that lodge. Segments of society are more concerned about tranquillity in the status quo. Nine about justice equality N. humanity. And so on a real sins on nation, some of riots. On nations, winters delayed. And there's long as America postpones justice. We stand in the position. Of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again. Social Justice I'm progress. the absolute Garin. riot prevention. Now in in that speech that Martin Luther King is giving I think it's touching and I. Think it's poignant on many different levels, but the part that struck me. As it at the end whenever he finishes, he says Social Justice. In progress are the absolute guarantees of riot prevention and I think that that's right, and I think that we can't look at America and not hear those who feel that and know that they have been oppressed that they have been treated differently. We've got to have that same type of energy that we see if people denouncing riots denouncing looting, denouncing the fact that people with different color skin treated differently. And I just WANNA. Right now I have like a pit in my stomach. 'cause this is this is an uncomfortable topic to talk about and. I. Don't think it gets easier, but that doesn't mean that. We need to shy away from it. I don't know how you to feel right now, but it just it. This isn't easy for me personally to have this conversation, but I do think it is important in one way or another, whether it's on this podcast whether it's friends, speaking to their other friends within their group or whatever form that might be. It's going to feel uncomfortable, and and that's to be expected, because it's a very difficult topic, but that doesn't mean you need to shy away from it. I'm not by no means. Am I trying to pat ourselves on the back? Saying look at US talking about this, but I just want you to know I think it's okay to be uncomfortable. I agree with that. That's actually what was at the heart of I think Martin Luther. King, junior was talking about there. He's that America has failed to hear that. The promises of freedom and justice have not been that, and it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquillity in the status quo than about justice equality in. I WANT WANNA. Give this a personal perspective and not because. And I talked about on the show I. think that we have become a conversation of qualifiers were anytime that you talk about something serious. You have to those qualifiers. Obviously. I'm a white male, obviously like I'm in a decent income bracket and things like that so when I speak about this I don't carry knowing full well. What Black Americans go through what I can say that listening to Martin Luther King this morning and thinking about what happened this weekend you is. Right there are times that I am concerned about tranquillity in the status quo much more than about justice that that that happened this weekend. My family wants to be a family that speaks out about social justice that is passionate about issues and getting people to the forefront and making things right in this country, and I was more concerned about the safety of my wife and kids going to a protest that I was about the what what happened behind that now I don't know if that's just because I'm a dad. I don't know if that's because white and I put probably a little bit of both like you have this certain status quo that you feel comfortable in. Giving money comfortable giving different things at different causes, but in my own. where it became uncomfortable for me, I was kind of chicken. Shit and I'll say that. forthrightly. I think that we have got to get to a place where status quo can't be comfortable, and it is very very comfortable for me right now. I! I think a lot of people would echo the sentiments that you're saying and. There are going online I joined the Lacey Pe- this weekend. I didn't realize that anyone can join and I'm following the ACLU now and this is stuff that I should have been. Following a long time ago, but it is. I stopped I listened I talked to some of my friends had a couple of Riddick, difficult conversations, and was wrong about a couple of things and heard people out and. Your perspective really does change listening to people and it. It is so important even if you don't know what to do, you can google. What can what people do right now to? You can google it, and there's answers popping up now or talk to your friend and other stuff you can do but it is, it is difficult is scary. Seeing I think any parent regardless of color would look at some of the protests right now go. Yeah you know what will step back from this. That's that's not our seen, but there's other things going on that people can do, but yeah, it's just it's hard on. The country is hurting and I think. I think two people confuse. that. If you're angry things in the country, you're anti-american. You don't love America. I would argue that you love America more than most if you're angry enough to want to change the things that are wrong with it, and then you're actually actively doing Matt I think you can love your country. Still Love Justice and still push for those things to. And I think that that is in action. I think that the veteran has got to look at it. From a perspective of this is what we defended the right to assemble the right to protest and things like that, and not all protests are going to be inherently peaceful. There is going to be those moments that are going to cause a huge stir and when we do that when America does that. Maybe that's not point fingers, but instead look at the root cause of the destruction to see if we can make our plant life a little bit better. There's a moment this weekend where I watched car sellers from CNN, and he talked about being black in America and being black and raising black men and. Black boys and I thought it was. It was just gutting and as a dad myself and looking around my kids, and knowing how boisterous my children can be at times, and they could be out there. Saying whatever in the streets in having doing whatever? I don't have the fear that a black father does I just flat out. Don't but it's what's important. chaps in this hearkens back to what Kate said with the word perspective. Now you see another father, and you're able to broaden your perspective to to hear that story I I was reading. I'll just I wasn't a fan of. President Obama's politics in a lot of instances, but I recognize that he's a very very well educated man. You know smarter than me and I I read something that he wrote this weekend. It was a it was a piece on medium dot com that he wrote, and I think it's just important. To hear those other perspectives, and it might be people that don't necessarily find yourself agreeing with all the time, but it's still important to have the to hear those other perspectives so that you can make a well rounded decision about how you WanNa live. Your Life our. I think one takeaway and we're not gonNA spend too much time on it, but one takeaway that I want to mention about the president now is that I think we've got to get past a place where we're? Pointing fingers constantly at left or right. That's the exact asked attitude of somebody that you cannot have in charge in a moment like this is a pivotal point in American history. It's a pivotal point America's future. We cannot have an US versus them attitude. It's got to be what can we do to find common ground to elevate each other? Where are Utopia starts to form rather than what we have right now. I think the cities. There's examples coming out of cities where. The police are. Stopping and saying okay, let's talk and let's Hash this out together and we hear you. We are listening to you and I feel like things are going much better. In those places than it is with automatically US versus them kind of mentality I I imagine it's a very scary thing to be a police officer walking up to a protest like that I was in New York on Saturday night going through the protest at Union. Square and I mean I was looking at both sides, talking to people as talking to police as talking to protesters and they're exhausted. Both sides are are sick and tired of so I think the places where they're willing to talk and here each other out, and I mean it's just hopefully this really gets a conversation. Going in a lot of things change the have to. But I think what's so great about some of those protests. We saw this weekend where the police. put down their batons. Put Down the helmet. The one the sheriff in in Flint Michigan comes to mind I read about incidences in Camden in north New Jersey to traditionally hotbeds for violence. And we can see that it's working, so it's important to continue to share those stories and not just focus on all the the violence in the stemming from of these protests because I think by and large most people's intent is not to be violent, but merely to not merely but more so to. Get a positive message across an You know I think with any. Anytime you're gonNA have a protest. There's probably there's there's going to be people who take advantage of that. But we need to on the people who are doing this for good. Yeah. And I choose just a more recognized the motive behind the violence rather than the violence itself. I think that that the the violence can be a cause of the hurt and pain that has been expressed for so long and there. That's really. I I don't know what more that we could possibly say. That hasn't been said Ad Nauseam, but I do feel like it's right every now, and then the pullback on the show in. Let you see who we are and who we want to be because we try like I, think that I I know Kate and O'Connor very well and I. Everyone on this show has good intentions of being good people, and sometimes we miss the mark this weekend. I miss the Mark I. I missed an opportunity to use the voice in the platform that I have, and I didn't do it well and I think that a little bit of change starts with some personal responsibility, so I'll take that, and I will talk about it now I will talk about a even though it makes me uncomfortable, even though I am nervous about saying the wrong things and not applying the right qualifiers. I don't do enough for the black community in this country, and that is effect we're going to move on. All right so before we get into the interview I? WanNa talk about Mr Williams a little bit because we didn't really get into the history of him going to jail I think that. If you want to hear more about that, there's plenty of youtube videos. He's talked about that over and over again I. Wanted You guys to get? Whenever you listen to get a little perspective on who he is. And where he grew up and things like that how he became the man that he was very interesting that he was a tiny fellow didn't couldn't joined the Marine Corps at first because he was too short I think that that. Kyle Carpenter same way, and it's just like general. Stop right the infamous General Krulak. I think he was like five two or something like that he. And I love that 'cause they always have nicknames like Large managing him what we talk about it a little bit, imagine him being five foot six or whatever he is, he walks in and like my name's woody like you'd be like Oh. You're adorable. Little, do they know? That us, and then he's carrying a seventy seventy pound flame thrower that it wasn't even taught to do it. Without further ado here is ninety six year old that are in world war to participant not disappeared, but medal of honor recipient he became a chief foreign officer, stuck around the military for while, and is doing more gold star families, maybe than anybody in the country. Ninety six years old doesn't sound a day over seventy. You're going to enjoy this interview. It was my distinct pleasure of talking to woody. Williams Melvina recipient United States Marine Corps is. Well now zero block thirty. I am privileged to have medal of honor recipient, fantastic man who lives in west, Virginia, born and bred. He is what he williams. We are so happy to have you Mr. Williams, thank you for joining us. Certainly my pleasure chapped. So I WANNA. Talk to you go back to the nineteen forties because you didn't just try to join the Marine Corps right when things were getting. Go and right at Pearl Harbor you try to join a little bit before right. Well no in. Nineteen forty one when Pearl Harbor was struck. I happen to be in the what was called. They should Valiente Conservation Corps okay. In in that Gore net group. You can win when you were sixteen years old. In. President Roosevelt started that program nationwide to try to give the youth shop saying to do were they could possibly learn a trade because the depression was on a reduced, no jobs and budget of young people didn't have anything to do. So it ended up about dollar, no seven, hundred, thousand, a Sherve Chevet Conservation Corps. So I was in Montana Whitehall Montana the day. The PRO harbor was bomb. And they called a shout today after on the as. Two Hundred Eighty Five of much in that camp. Those camps were run by the army. We had a commanding officer. When I charge it best charge, it and few army clerks did all the. Administrative Work. And they called us out and told us that were that we were going to war. And, of course, pressure Roosevelt already announced. and. That, we could a choice. If we were over eighteen years of age, we go direct into the army. We wouldn't have to even go home. But I was seventeen. And under eighteen course you had to have parents Jan.. and My mother lived back mushroom January father was already deceased, so there was no way in the world I could ever get consent so. I took the option of coming home. And I got home. Wanted Joe and Shilla Seventeen. But my mother would not shine my paper. The ME permission so I had to wait until I was eighteen. And one month acclimating birthday in October I went into the. Into town and it was one bill where all the servers were gathered, all the branches of services and I wanted to be a marine I didn't want to be an army I didn't want to wear that other the army. ME. Leads and all that. So when I feel about my paper and gave it to the Moraine. He didn't even. Look at my paper is at me and he said you're, too. I can't take you. Did have a high requirement. Debt, down, five, eight or better. So I went back back to the one nothing else I could do. And I would've is actually been drafted new ended up in the army of course. But in early nineteen, forty three, the Ranko already began having casualties because of water canal. which hidden forty two? And of course. Lots of Gabe as will Graham. Apparently so they lowered the height requirement. And that rain I'm sure turned out A. Great number of Osh. Because in our community, we had a lot of Italian people and they will mostly were short like me. They didn't meet that high. That heights requirement, either so he could, but he came to. The farm looked me up and. said. Do still want to go to Marinko and said Yeah Okay. Recruiting gets tough. We have that same type of thing now where they at first. If you had a certain amount of tattoos, they weren't let you in a couple of years into the war on terror. They're like well. Maybe we'll let a few people with tattoos. So. So, Forty three. I finally shipped we a waiting period back. Then it, taking to people enter the Marine Corps from each county. And two of us for Mike County and then we had two other gosh from adjoining counties. And schick salvage. Got Selected? Go into the Marine Corps, and instead of going to pair John which we should have gone. We, race. Shannon all the way in shanty ankle. Because verify was giving so many people. They couldn't find real instructors. In. Have Housing and you know that sort of thing? So, they began shipping trainloads of People California. So when you were actually on the bowes and getting ready to start doing the island hopping campaigns, did you have any inclination about what to expect where your intelligence briefs Good were are? Were you basically you get off the ship and it's time to fight. Basically that was it, but we were fortunate in my platoon. We did have. Wade through your own truckers. Manchuria. Those individuals had already been in water water now. So. A war combat experience when that was beneficial because they were talking to reality of combat, but you take the other bill instructor should never been overseas yet. They couldn't help them, so you shed. You didn't know what you're going to get into when you went to the beach. So did. Would been like that whenever you have assumed guys like John Bass on that were on the ship that had this reputation where you already looking at the people who had been Guana canal in thinking. Thank goodness. They're here, so we have a little bit of experience on our side. I, I don't know that we thought that way, but when they was teaching US talking to us. The particularly those two individuals, they could talk and reality and warn you and and give you. Base again formation. SANCTIONED NOT TO DO Besides? Not Get yourself killed. So that was helpful. And I think if somebody like yourself whenever I heard stories or read stories and see it on documentaries and things like that of people who were flame throwers, essentially of being big guys, because they way seventy pounds and you, I would think you would be almost like a machine gunner now where you wanna be bigger and stockier, so when I. Hear Your story being turned away for being on the smaller side. It's mind blowing that. That's the job that you were pick for. US At there were. Actually seven of us in this special weapons unit that was set up on Guadalcanal in January of forty four. We receive these huge one of boxes. and. We had no idea what they were. What was in those but home? We Open Up. There was a piece of equipment. None of us ever seen before as I'm sore. From how to use it, and it's not like you could go on Youtube and check it out. By. It didn't have any manual of how to use it in combat and have a manual that showed you all the part numbers, and how to take it apart, but together, and it came with a powdered sauce fresh. Powder that we had fought version, and that was what you were supposed to use those friends. You'd mix that with gasoline, and it would turn into a jail, a sticky, really sticky gel well, if you got that on your body, or you got on the enemy, the fresh continued burn. And there was no way you could brush off. You could stick your hand underwater. If you've got on your hand, you can stick the hand. Underwater in a Fox were still guard then making. So, that was a material that they sent us, but it was a single stream like a water shree out of a water hose. And headset two seconds of fhu. In your door on a half gallons of stuff and they air pressure airtight would force it out and seventy two seconds. So by the time. When you're trying to hit a target with a new cat, Hey, you're firing from here. You. Can't cite it like a rifle. There's no iron sights on that thing. Out of fluids for you'd never find. The target of wasn't a big thing, so my gunnery sergeant, who happened to be a China Marine? He was in China during the Depression Years in the thirties. He began experimenting with other staff. Other kinds of fluids, and we finally ended up with diesel fuel an airplane gasoline. Through that that he. He worked it out when he was satisfied with it. That's what we use now. I imagined just knowing marines because we like to think of YOU GUYS GM! Veterans where you are just stoic warriors, but I know deep down inside the first time. You guys lit that thing on fire. Everybody started to cheer. You're like Oh yeah. Right. Right! Something would never experience lower and. The because of the mixture of gasoline just throw it or or shouted out under pressure once it hits wind resistance, which socks didn't go very far. So the diesel fuel gave a body so that it would go farther, but even that if you fired it into the air, a body highs or head heights. is still would go anywhere. Because the wind resistance would catch it and he just stop. A show. GonNa Rashard came up with the idea of firing at fifteen twenty yards in front up. On the ground. into a great big orange, fireball and role in that ball into a cave or a gearbox. I don't know whether any other units used that shit. Were not I have no idea? I've I've watched some of the. Film that looks like they're. Firing About body level. What they were using in the way of fluid, give it body I had no idea. And using a weapon like that is got to be for the person on the other end of the trigger horrific like the things that you see and seeing that you wear the medal still you're wearing the medal today for those that are listening while driving to work or doing whatever they're doing. I look at somebody like you. An imagine telling a story like yours over and over again for seventy years now has got to take a toll mentally. Did you ever feel like you're able to really heal from those moments by having to replay essentially the worst day of your life over and over again or days of your life. Well You know we. We didn't know anything about big t ashish. That wasn't something that we had come up with yet. And World War Two the diagnosis of person who had some. As we call today, way called Shackleton Erosion. And of course, most people in combat had some form of that to some degree. But the Best thing that happened to me really. was. By virtue of having the Medal of honor, I became a public figure. I had to participate in public. I was expected to tell my story I was expected to associated natural questions. Have programs like you and I are doing today only we did it or radio or speech. And that's the best thank. It ever happened to me because it was a Serapis I couldn't keep. It ended up in Shahdeh me because I had to talk about. And that helped really did go, so you've basically been doing group therapy for seventy five years back. Yeah. I mean you know I. Did notice the time, but It really wanted beneficial. To me and but it's still duck many years to finally get it to the point where In awakening more. Good and I've talked to Kyle Carpenter a few times about the same type of thing because you're young men. When you receive the medal of honor as well, it's got to be almost at days where you just do didn't WanNa talk about things that happened and you had to put on a happy face just because you were aware of the metal, and now being the last marine from war to that still with us is just your life has just been so remarkable when you look around America now. Do you have any wisdom that you would like to impart on our younger listeners of things that they could do better to be better people? Somewhere I feel Jabs that we've launched our value. Of our country, our patriotism. We don't look at America today like we dated will work to water. World War, two, and so that matter Korea or Vietnam? We're not looking at the same world through the eyes of our use today that even you through. In VOLUSIA Because our values are changing or have changed so rapidly or losing that high respect and regard for the very. Freedom that we have and the privilege of living in such a great country America. And I don't know how to restore that. Anxious to. About the fact that we can't. Gathered together as a united people. Like we were. In previous years. I think and I've said this many times in many places. I believe we're more divided day. Than we have ever been. Other than show will war. and. These riots in things were going on today, just sutter. Conventions May that somehow we've got to restore in America the true America that we all. Want to have and drew American that we want to be, and you do a lot of that with your foundation focusing on the relationships that you build with Gold Star families in those that are sacrificing for the ability to express freedom of speech and freedom of protests and things like that. Can you tell us about why? Your passion should shifted so much to the Gold Star families? Well, if I could back up for just a moment, Gold Star mothers were started in World War One no. Doubt No. And for years we, we talked a lot about many communities paid tribute and honored a gold star mothers. But. No one ever mentioned any other part of the family. and. In! Few years back. Probably around twenty ten or that period. I was speaking to a group. Of shadier shed, Jentzsch and We had gold star mothers in the group. Some of those mothers at lost loved ones in the death march in. Japan Death March. and. And the Philippines when it was captured, so. We've paid proper tribute to them. And the after this whole thing was over and one man stage the hall. And, I asked him you know. Could I be of some help to win? and. He walked up to me and tears. WHO SLOWING DOWN HIS CHEEKS? And I had talked about gold star mothers over and over and over because they suffered. The loss of a loved one their own. And We walk when he walked up to all he said to me. Wash Dad's cry, too. And I had never mentioned dad all the effort weird made, or the lawsuit would give them. Whatever no one had ever mentioned Dan. And I decided at that time. We bought a memorial our top little round. That has eleven four hundred and thirty four names on every one of those shack. Refine life in the armed forces. Weeks shortly paid copper tribute to them, but we didn't do any day. To pay tribute to the families. And so families left behind were shot suffering. greeding. Who has emptied the table? So I decided, we must have something to honor our own in West Virginia and we did that in twenty thirteen. Bills the first gold star Feminine Memorial ever constructed in the United States of America in this little state of West. Virginia and we did it for our own. That's all we're going to do. One way applied for our. program. Nonprofit they said you gotTa have a goal. I said okay goal one of the. In every state see they shouldn't even be able to tell you what you need. You should be able to say I. WANNA. Start a foundation and they say Mr Williams okay. You flip through on Iwo Jima. You get started foundation you want do. Other states began to pick it up and looks shack, not really balanced. Using core appropriate price valid forthright was the son of father. That has launched his life in Vietnam. That said we need one of these in our community to represent ARGO SEAN families. Nat began to move forward and. Today not because of what the is because what's the communities are doing? People in Committees V. Give them the opportunity and the right circumstances. They will do anything to serve our country. Help it in some way rather than destroy it. And today in forty five states. We've already have a monument completed. Now. We're going to get the others before we finish it. It's just a matter of time. But we've got seventy more. In fashion! Show. I'm so proud of our little state of West Virginia because right now. We already have Chevron. And Five more on the book Short Nebraska. So we're mind up with twelve and that point. If we get those completed next year, we'll be head of any other state in the union with a lot to be two things. You guys have the best fall leaf changes in the first. Dedicated memorial to the fallen families. I WANNA. Ask You one more question about e will when you all were coming back when the island campaigns were over because I think a lot of people lose sight that they see such a monumental moment in the raising of the flag on Mount Suribachi. But that wasn't the end of island campaign for you guys. You guys had to pick up. And move on and continue island hopping, but when it was finally done, and you were on your way home. Did you have any idea what you had accomplished? And that you would be the backbone of the legacy of the United States Marine Corps? Absolutely, not absolutely not it was. It Will Jima Afar as we were. Concern was just another campaign. We have been in Guam the year before. July and August wig taken back from the intimate. And this was just another campaign. The thing that made it icon. ICK, I'd say was old glory. The fact that she was on a mountaintop for everybody on the island. Because she are now. We've put a flag up on every. Allah we ever captured. Wash your got out of the area. You couldn't see it. Is it out of mind out of sight but with? Maps botchy. You couldn't Michigan. It's the highest point on the whole island and the island was only. Only. Two and a half miles wide and four and a half miles long, so you can see for and a half miles if it's up in the air. So I. Think it was the flag that made it such an iconic situation more so. Than Just taking the our. No doubt about it. Mr Williams I. Don't want to take up too much of your time. I at such an honor to be able to interview you and speak with you. Man Demand Person to person again for the legacy that you've left behind and for the things that you do now currently like I don't know if a lot of people listened no but kyle. Carpenter and I sat at the Coca Cola. Cola, six hundred a couple of years ago and I, asked him some of the same questions that I ask you today about what it was like receiving the medal of honor, and having almost some of the burden that was there, and he told me he said you know I had men like Woody Williams. Reach out to me after I found out that I was going to receive the medal of honor and. And he kind of took me under his wing, and told me what to expect a little bit and I thought that that kind of thing is what goes unnoticed. It's the type of leadership that happens behind the scenes, and it really is what makes people like you and your generation very special and I hope that while everything that's going on that so turbulent in America right now we can receive some of that. That sacrifice that sacrifice the take some some of things that we have for granted and look at the future and say you are the future like Kyle Carpenter is going to be sitting in your seat sixty years from now talking to some other bald headed veteran about the things that he accomplished Marsha and I. Hope that this is a continues to go on because of legacies like people like you Mr Williams. And we must not ever forget. Those of today were still having. was still having American sacrifice their life for somebody else. And for a cause greater than themselves. and. When. I start talking about having an all volunteer for shoes. I was the doubting. Thomas I really want. I didn't think we would ever be able to have enough true Americans who are willing to sign a nose. and Go to combat. Not Knowing if they're ever to get back home. But it has worked and New Year Asli and you still have those individuals. Who Sacrifice Life for somebody else? That you can't get any better than that's loyalty describes are absolutely right. Thank you Mr Williams. Now, part of the show that you didn't get to hear that after I was done speaking to Mr Williams, I got to call upstairs because I work from home I got the call upstairs and bring my kids downstairs and introduce them to woody, and he was so gracious, and so kind in speaking to them, and asking them how their day was going, joking with them and things like that while I know full well, my kids don't understand the gravity of the medal of honor. And while he was wearing it in the interview and looking at this man who is the last surviving marine. Medal of honor recipient from World War Two and just. What a pleasure! It was for me to talk to him and. It's there are certain things in this job that I'm blown away by the opportunities that I've gotten. Sitting there and talking to the last of the living love legends from war to is one of those things that will stick with me for a long time. Yeah, I think that's such a great aspect of this show that we have these these brave men and women, and we get to memorialize their stories that otherwise probably wouldn't have been told maybe outside of their circles, and maybe a few few books here and there, but by and large. I didn't know who that gentleman was, so you know I'm grateful to now have his story recorded on that? We can continue to share that with other people so I think it's. Real privilege I think about the first time I met you guys. WAS THAT AN ARMY NAVY GAME IN PHILADELPHIA? Three or four years ago now. And I. You know I I never would have thought. I got out of the Marine Corps Love the Marine Corps love the history and everything the very first thing I meet you guys. I stepped onto the bus. That you guys are come in. There's Medal of honor recipients Lauren Grossberg. Men I get to have a conversation with him and from there. You're right a lot of things that. When I was a marine I never could have imagined the opportunities that being part is your blog. Thirty would afford me to meet the people that I have admired for so long to get to hear their stories like this, so yeah, it's it's. Put it eloquently pretty damn cool. Yeah. So there's one aspect of the interview that I want to extrapolate a little bit, and I think that when Mr Williams was talking about looking at old glory, whenever he said that Oh glory was the difference maker, and why you Agena was is remembered so. So well, there wasn't a whole lot of difference between the battle of Jima and the battle, one canal battle of Guam the battle of wake island like a lot of those battles went much the same way. It was very heavy handed. It was hard fought every piece of sand in every grain, and every inch was hard fought, but there was that image of. The American flag, being hoisted on out serve botchy. That stuck with America and has stuck with America for seventy five years, and he said that it was that image that caused the the real. Like the real reputation to take root. And when? Although when Mount Suribachi flag was raised when it was there when people were coming down, that wasn't the end of the battle and we talked about that was him. You continue to go onto the island hopping campaign. They continued to have more battles ahead. That wasn't the end of the war. That wasn't the end of World War Two and Stanley. Rubin talked about they went on and on and on, and some of the worst battles were still ahead, but was the battle where they knew that something there is a tide that had changed is because the flag went up on Mount Suribachi. When I was listening to him, speak. My brain went back to the conversation that we had to start the show because of what had transpired this weekend. And all I could really think about was hopefully this moment in history this moment for equality this moment that we're seeing all these different protests pop up here and there more people are being outspoken about it hopefully, this is our equality version of the flag raising on Iwo Jima hopefully. We get to the spot where. People across the country feel that they are represented equally that whenever somebody lays their life down as a veteran for them, they are doing it because they are of equal value I hope that that's where we are I hope that's we're going. Let this be a moment where we're raising our flag on Iwo Jima. Metaphorically and saying the battle is not over. But. This is the turning point. Sound the retreat.