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"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on Serial Killers

Serial Killers

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"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on Serial Killers

"Wherever you get your podcasts. Now back to the story in Nineteen seventy-five Robert Lee. Aides resigned from the Washington state penitentiaries suddenly and without explanation but the real reason for his resignation may have been related to his first two known murders on July thirteenth. Nineteen seventy five twenty one year old Patrick Oliver and twenty two year old Susan savage. We're to close friends. Spending some time together Mill Creek Park in Walla Walla Oliver and savage had good reputations in the town they were both well liked top students. Who came from good families? He had just returned from studying in France while savage recently graduated from Washington State University. The friends met up for a picnic in Mill Creek Park and even went for a swim in the lake. Mill Creek Park now known as Mill Creek Dam and Bennington Lake is a popular spot in Walla Walla. The sprawling six hundred acre recreational area has many hiking trails. According to The Washington trails association is also a popular spot for burgers bikers hunters runners and anglers that day. Robert Gates was in the same area for hunting target practice. It's not clear why. Or how but Robert Approached the coupled sometime during his target practice activities Walla Walla County. Sheriff Mike Humphries told the Walla Walla Union bulletin quote. I think he went up there to target shoot like usually did he came across these people and it happened and his shot. Oliver three times. The last bullet was especially fatal. It pierced Oliver's heart propert left savage with two fatal gunshot wounds one in her shoulder and the other in her head behind her left ear. Robert took most of the clothes off. Savage's unconscious body and placed on top of Oliver in a sexual manner. Robert covered both dead bodies with a pile of brush and army sleeping bag and a tire killers sometimes position the bodies of their victims in suggestive ways in order to send a message author and investigative historian. Peter vronsky elaborated on this in his book. Serial killers the method and madness of monsters. There are two ways a killer position. A body post mortem the first is called staging when the killer arranges the corpses and away meant to confuse or mislead investigators but if the victims are arranged in a sexual or perverse manner that fulfils the killers on fantasies. It's called posing considering that Oliver and savages bodies were hidden from plain sight. Robert may have been posing the corpses to act out a perverse fantasy for his own pleasure. According to a two thousand four study in the journal Forensic Science killers who pose bodies. WanNa shock anyone who discovers the bodies of the victims. The study also found that female victims tend to be the ones who are staged posed or left in some kind of unusual position after being murdered posed bodies can indicate that sexual assault had occurred and that the manner of death was particularly hands on for the killer usually victims who are elected. An unusual position have been stabbed bound or bludgeoned. Robert Killed Savage at point blank range which also denotes a certain hands on closeness. The next day Oliver's brother Dan and his uncle Frank Munn noticed Oliver and savage didn't return home the night before. Danon went out looking for them at mill. Creek. Dan recalled. I saw funny arrangement of debris near the edge of the creek by found them. Dan inman drove straight to the local police station to report. What they had found in the park police investigated the murder and didn't turn up any leads at the time. It was also unclear if Oliver savage had been sexually assaulted in the attack but Robert would never be a suspect in the murder. He would only be convicted of it after confessing to it over a decade later. In fact Robert was nowhere near the murders at the time. He had already distanced himself from the nearby prison and found new employment as a movie theater. Usher sometime later in one thousand nine hundred seventy five. He and Linda moved back to Roberts. Hometown of Oak Harbor likely because his mother had been battling cancer shortly after arrival. Twenty-three-year-old Robert Lee. Yates took a job as a janitor at Whidbey Island hospital where his mother worked as the housekeeping supervisor in July nineteen seventy-six Robert and Linda through a second wedding and were officially married. It took place in Oak Harbor with Robert's parents as witnesses. Linda officially took Roberts last name but she joined the family just as another. Yates passed on on October. Ninth Nineteen Seventy six. Robert's mother Anna may died of cancer. Robert and his friend Gaudy were pallbearers. At her funeral Gotti claimed that the death didn't affect Robert too much because Robert Anatomy didn't have a close relationship. He told the Seattle Times quote. Boys Aren't attached to their mothers. Like girls are. It doesn't throw us over the edge and quote sometime in one thousand. Nine hundred seventy seven. Robert became a father again when Linda gave birth to their second child. Sonya on October Fourth Nineteen Seventy seven. Robert enlisted in the US Army. At Age twenty five he was older than the other recruits but proceeded to train at base in Missouri Texas and Massachusetts in one thousand nine hundred eighty twenty eight year. Old Robert was chosen to train army pilot fulfilling his childhood dream of flying in order to become an army pilot. Individuals are selected for special training called Warrant Officer Candidate School Roberts Training for this took place at Fort Rucker Alabama the army's aviation centre in July nineteen eighty before it was allowed to fly planes. He started his training with helicopters. Robert became highly skilled helicopter pilot. His colleagues called him an excellent pilot. Knowledgeable and safety conscious from nineteen eighty until nineteen. Eighty-four Robert was stationed in Germany located about fifteen miles from Frankfurt. Linda at his daughters remained in Washington but Robert visited the family while on leave during one of Robert's trips home Robert and Linda expanded their family during this time. Linda gave birth to two more children their third daughter amber in nineteen eighty and their fourth daughter. Michelle who was born in Nineteen eighty-four. The Yates family now had four daughters. Sasha Amber Sonia and Michelle but despite their large family. Robert and Linda seemed happy to keep their lives separate. She raised their daughters while Robert served in the military. He rarely mentioned his wife to his army colleagues and many didn't even know he was married even when he was back in the states. Robert and Linda spent time apart in one thousand nine hundred four thirty two year old. Robert became an instructor at Fort Rucker. For Various Aviation Training Battalions. He was an instructor pilot for the. Oh fifty eight. The Kiowa which was used as the army's primary observation helicopter at the time shortly after in nineteen eighty five. Linda move back to Walla Walla with their children and did not depend on Roberts financial support. Linda was happy for a bit but she found it hard to support herself and her daughters on her own. Linda said quote. I loved the separation but the girls were pleading to be with their dad. They didn't want to be poor and not have anything anymore and quote so Linda Reunited with Robert in nineteen eighty eight in July of that year while Robert Lee was on leave. He returned home to Oak Harbor. Meanwhile in nearby Skagit County twenty three year old Stacy Elizabeth. Hawn was working as a sex worker on July seventh nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight thirty six year old. Robert encountered on presumably while she was looking for customers. It's not clear. Exactly what happened? During their encounter but months later on December twenty eighth nineteen eighty-eight authorities found haunts remains outside Mount Vernon she had been shot once in the head at first police believed. Han was a victim of Gary. Leon ridgway the Green River killer. He was another active serial killer who targeted sex workers in Washington state at the time however Robert confessed to murdering Hawn years later and it would play a big role in his trial sometime in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. The army re-stationed Robert in Germany. This time in Gulping in about one hundred and nine hundred miles from Munich. He remained there for three years. We don't know for sure if Robert Killed again in Germany but at present German authorities consider him a potential suspect in a string of twenty six unsolved homicides. His involvement in those homicides is still being investigated in one thousand nine hundred nine. Robert's wife Linda who was still in the states gave birth to kyle the couple's first son and fifth child overall Robert Favored his son and began to neglect his four daughters. Sasha Sonya amber and Michelle. It's unknown in what ways he treated his son differently than his daughters. But it's usually typical for parents to view sons and daughters differently. Dr Glenn Wilson Professor in Gender and sexual psychology told the mirror that the fact that men and their sons share y chromosomes which carry more genetic material than women's double x chromosomes could point to an instinctual preference for sons. It also may have to do with common interests. Wilson told the publication in two thousand ten before the birth of father would assume he'd connect with his son psychologically more so than with his daughter and they'd have more shared interests such as playing football but regardless of how much character any of his children. He was often too far from home to see them. Robert returned to the United States in Nineteen ninety-one and served as a flight instructor at the Fort Drum Bass in New York. Robin was also part of the Fort Drum Assault Helicopter Division and. He went on several missions with the team. It was during one of these missions. That Robert drew attention to himself a story that would get more attention than many of his murders in December nineteen ninety two. He served in operation hope in Somalia while serving Robert and his fellow soldiers became tired of eating army food and craved barbecue. Robert decided to do something about it one day. He flew the Kiowa helicopter over a nearby forest and took aim at a wild pig below. The pig was hit. Robert and the rest of the crew landed the helicopter after the shot. Gutted the pig and loaded it onto the helicopter thrilled for the fresh meat. Robert was not reprimanded for his unauthorized joy. Right or unbecoming actions. Dennis Mills who served with Robert Recall that it wasn't taken very seriously. He told the Seattle Times quote. They tried to court martial him because he didn't go through the proper channels. It all turned into a big joke after awhile. It didn't hurt a damn thing. They were just trying to get some fresh mate and quote. Many serial killers seemed to display violent tendencies towards animals as children and adults according to an F. B. I. Report in Two Thousand Sixteen. If a person hurts animals then they're likely to hurt humans or will do so in the future John Thomson. Deputy Executive Director of the National Sheriff's Association told the FBI quote if somebody is harming an animal. There's a good chance there also hurting a human. If we see patterns of animal abuse the odds are that something else is going on and quote but nobody suspected Robert of anything more sinister at the time probably because they viewed his hunting trip as little more than a desire for good barbecue rather than consequences. Robert was after this stint overseas in one thousand. Nine hundred four Robert returned to the United States and became a pilot who trains army aviation instructors at Fort in Alabama. At the time he was one of only ten army instructors on that highly trained level. Miles Merrill one of Robert's former students recalled quote. Bob was really kind of quiet. He was very methodical. Saw things through quite well patients like you wouldn't believe and quote Meryl Spent Seven Hours a day with Robert for the eight weeks of training throughout that time. Robert mentioned his children but never mentioned smyth. Merrythought Robert was a single dad. Robert received at least thirty days of leave a year from the army during one such leave in one thousand nine hundred four Robert Bottle white nine thousand nine hundred seventy seven corvette..

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"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on Serial Killers

Serial Killers

13:39 min | 1 year ago

"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on Serial Killers

"Now back to the story in one thousand nine hundred seventy five Robert Lee. Yates resigned from the Washington state penitentiary suddenly and without explanation but the real reason for his resignation in May have been related to his first two known murders on July thirteenth. Nineteen seventy five twenty one year old. Patrick Oliver and twenty two year old Susan. Savage were too close friends spending some time together and Mill Creek Park in Walla Walla. Oliver and savage had good reputations and the town they were both well liked the top students who came from good families. He had just returned from studying. In France. While savage recently graduated from Washington State University. The friends met up for a picnic in Mill Creek Park and even went for a swim in the lake. Mill Creek Park now known as Mill Creek Dam and Bennington Lake is a popular spot in Walla Walla. The sprawling six hundred acre recreational area has many hiking trails. According to The Washington trails association is also a popular spot for burgers orders bikers hunters runners and anglers that day. Robert Gates was in the same area for hunting target practice. It's not clear why. or or how but Robert Approached the couple sometime during his target practice activities. Walla Walla County. Sheriff Mike Humphries told the Walla Walla Union bulletin quote. I think he went up there to target shoot like he usually did. He came across these people and it happened and quote. He shot Oliver Three The Times. The last bullet was especially fatal. It pierced Oliver's heart Robert left savage with two fatal gunshot wounds one in her her shoulder and the other in her head behind her left ear. Robert took most of the clothes off. Savage's unconscious body and placed on top of Oliver in a sexual the Manor Robert covered both dead bodies with a pile of brush and army sleeping bag and a tire killers sometimes position. The bodies of their victims is in suggestive ways in order to send a message author and investigative historian. Peter vronsky elaborated on this in his book. Serial killers the method and madness nece of monsters. They're two ways. A killer could position a body post mortem the first is called staging when the killer arranges the corpses in a way meant confuse or mislead investigators. But if the victims are arranged in sexual or perverse manner that fulfills the killers on fantasies. It's called reposing. Considering that Oliver and savages bodies were hidden from plain sight. Robert may have been posing the corpses to act out a perverse fantasy for his own pleasure. Pleasure according to a two thousand four study in the Journal of Forensic Science killers who pose bodies WANNA shock anyone who discovers the bodies of the victims. The study also found that female victims tend to be the ones who are staged posed or left in some kind of unusual position. After being murdered posed. I bodies can indicate that sexual assault had occurred and that the manner of death was particularly hands on for the killer. Usually victims who are elected. An unusual position have been stabbed bound or bludgeoned. Robert Killed Savage at point blank range which also denotes a certain hands on closeness. The next day Oliver's brother Dan and his uncle Frank Munn noticed Oliver and savage didn't return home the night before Dan Mon- went out looking for them at Mill Creek. Dan recalled I saw funnier arrangement of debris near the edge of the creek by phone them. Dan In mon- drove straight to the local police station. The report what they had found in the park police investigated the murder and didn't turn up any leads at the time. It was also unclear if Oliver savage had been sexually the assaulted in the attack but Robert would never be a suspect in the murder. He would only be convicted of it after confessing to it over a decade later. In fact Robert was nowhere near the murders at the time. He had already distanced himself from the nearby prison and found new employment as a movie theater. Osha sometime later. In nineteen seventy five. He inland moved back to Roberts Hometown of Oak Harbor likely because his mother had been battling cancer shortly shortly after arrival. Twenty three year. Old Robert Lee. Yates took a job as a janitor at Whidbey Island hospital where his mother worked as the housekeeping supervisor in July nineteen seventy six Robert and Linda through a second wedding and were officially married. It took place in Oak Harbor with Robert's parents as witnesses. Linda officially took Roberts last name but she joined the family just as another. Yates passed on October. Ninth Nineteen Seventy six Robert's Robert's mother. Anna may died of cancer Robert and his friend. Godley were pallbearer center. Funeral Gaudy claimed that the death didn't affect Robert too much because Robert Anatomy didn't have a close relationship. He told the Seattle Times quote. Boys Aren't attached to their mothers. Like girls are. It doesn't throw us over the edge and unquote sometime in nineteen seventy seven. Robert became a father again when Linda gave birth to their second child Sonya on October fourth. Nineteen seventy seventy seven. Robert enlisted in the US army at age twenty five. He was older than the other recruits but proceeded to train basis in Missouri Texas and Massachusetts Sousse Hits in Nineteen Eighty Twenty eight year. Old Robert was chosen to train as an army pilot fulfilling his childhood dream of flying in order to become an army pilot. Individuals are selected for special training called Warrant Officer Candidate School Roberts Training for this took place at Fort Rucker Alabama. The army's aviation. Va Shin Center in July nineteen eighty before he was allowed to fly planes. He started his training with helicopters. Robert became a highly skilled helicopter pilot. His colleagues called him an excellent pilot. Knowledgeable and safety conscious from nineteen eighty until nineteen. eighty-four Robert was stationed in Hanau Germany erminie located about fifteen miles from Frankfurt. Linda and his daughters remained in Washington. But Robert visited the family while on. Leave during what Roberts. BIRT's trips home. Robert and Linda expanded their family during this time. Linda gave birth to two more children their third daughter amber in nineteen eighty and their our fourth daughter. Michelle who was born in Nineteen eighty-four. The Gates family now had four daughters. Sasha Amber Sonia and Michelle but but despite their large family Robert and Linda seemed happy to keep their lives separate. She raised their daughters while Robert served in the military. He rarely mentioned his wife to his army colleagues and many didn't even know he was married even when he was back in the states. Robert and Linda spent time apart in one thousand nine hundred four thirty two year old. Robert became an instructor at Fort Rucker. Alabama for various aviation training battalions. He was an instructor pilot for the. Oh fifty fifty eight. The Kiowa which was used as the army's primary observation helicopter at the time shortly after in one thousand nine hundred five Linda. Move back back to Walla Walla with their children and did not depend on Roberts financial support. Linda was happy for a bit but she found it hard to support herself and and her daughters on her own. Linda said quote. I loved the separation but the girls were pleading to be with their dad. They didn't want to be poor and not have anything thing anymore and quote so Linda Reunited with Robert in nineteen eighty eight in July of that year while Robert Lee. Yates was on leave. He returned turned home to Oak Harbor. Meanwhile in nearby Skagit County twenty-three year-old Stacy Elizabeth Han was working as a sex worker on July seventh nineteen one thousand nine hundred eighty eight thirty six year old Robert Encountered Hawn presumably while she was looking for customers. It's not clear. Exactly what happened during their encounter. But but months later on December twenty eighth nineteen eighty-eight authorities found haunts remains outside Mount Vernon she had been shot once in the head at I. Police believed that. Han was a victim of Gary. Leon ridgway the Green River killer. He was another active serial killer who targeted sex workers in Washington state. Eight at the time however Robert confessed to murdering Han years later and it would play a big role in his trial sometime in nineteen eighty eight eight. The army re-stationed Robert Germany. This time in Gulping in about one hundred and nineteen miles from Munich. He remained there for three years. We don't know oh for sure. If Robert Killed again in Germany but at present German authorities consider him a potential suspect in a string of twenty six unsolved homicides his involvement in those homicides is still being investigated in one thousand nine hundred nine. Robert's wife Linda who was still in the states gave birth to kyle all the couples I son and Fifth Child Overall Robert Favored aside and began to neglect his daughters. Sasha Sonya amber and Michelle. It's unknown in what ways he treated his son differently than his daughters. But it's usually typical for parents to view sons and daughters differently. Dr Glenn Wilson a professor in Gender and sexual psychology told the mirror that the fact that men and their sons share y chromosomes which carry more genetic material. Cereal and women's double x chromosomes could point to an instinctual preference for sons. It also may have to do with common interests. Wilson told the publication Asian in two thousand ten before the birth of father would assume he'd connect with his son. Psychologically more so than with his daughter and that they'd have more shared interests rests such as playing football but regardless of how much Robert character any of his children. He was often too far from home to see them. Robert returned to the United States dates in one thousand nine hundred eighty one and served as a flight instructor at the Fort Drum Bass in New York. Robert was also part of the Fort Drum assault helicopter division and he went on. Let's several missions with the team. It was during one of these missions that Robert drew attention to himself a story that would get more attention than many of his murders. In in December nineteen ninety-two he served in Operation Restore Hope in Somalia while serving Robert and his fellow soldiers became tired of eating army food and craved barbecue. Robert decided to do something about it one day. He flew the Kiowa helicopter over a nearby forest and took aim at a wild wild pig below. The pig was hit Robert and the rest of the crew landed the helicopter after the shot. The gutted the pig and loaded it onto Alexander thrilled for the fresh meat. Robert was not reprimanded for his unauthorized joyride or unbecoming actions. Dennis Mills who served with Robert Recall that it wasn't taken very seriously. He told the Seattle Times quote. They tried to court martial him because he didn't go through the proper channels. It all turned turned into a big joke after awhile. It didn't hurt a damn thing. They were just trying to get some fresh meat and quote. Many serial killers seem to display a violent tendencies towards animals children and adults according to an F. B. I.. Report in two thousand sixteen. If a person hurts animals then they're likely me to hurt humans or will do so in the future John Thompson Deputy Executive Director of the National Sheriff's Association told the FBI quote if somebody is harming an animal. There's a good chance there also hurting a human. If we see patterns of animal abuse the odds are that something else is going on end quote but nobody suspected Robert of anything more sinister at the time probably because they viewed his hunting trip as little more than a desire for good barbecue barbecue rather than consequences. Robert was promoted after this stint overseas in Nineteen ninety-four Robert returned to the United States and became a pilot who trains army aviation instructors at Fort Rucker in Alabama at the time he was one of only ten army instructors on that highly trained level. Miles Merrill one of Robert's former students recalled quote. Bob Was Really Kinda quiet. He was very methodical. saw things through quite well. Patients patients like you wouldn't believe and quote Merrill spent seven hours a day with Robert for the eight weeks of training throughout that time. Robert mentioned his children but never mentioned his wife merrythought. Robert was a single dad. Robert received at least thirty days of leave a year from the army during one. Such leave in Nineteen ninety-four Four Robert Bottle White nineteen seventy seven. Corvette he drove back to the base. A move that would later come back to haunt him. Occasionally and Linda attended parties on the Fort Rucker base with Robert. She saw a whole new side of him. At the events Robert Drank alcohol and flirted with other women. His colleagues colleagues called him. James Bond Linda was shocked at her husband's behavior but she tolerated it. His army pay helped support their family and she needed needed it for her children. Plus Linda was still living in Washington while Robert was stationed in Alabama..

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"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

07:39 min | 1 year ago

"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

"The study also found that female victims tend to be the ones who are staged staged posed or left in some kind of unusual position after being murdered posed bodies can indicate that sexual assault had occurred and that the manner of death was particularly hands on for the killer. Usually victims who are left in an unusual position have been stabbed bound or bludgeoned Robert. Bert killed savage at point blank range. which also denotes a certain hands-on closeness the next day? Oliver's brother Dan and his uncle Frank Munn notice taller and savage. Didn't return home the night before Dan and Mon went out looking for them at Mill Creek. Dan recalled I saw funny arrangement of debris near the edge the creek by foam them. Dan inman drove straight to the local police station to report. What they found in the park? Police investigated the murder. It didn't turn up any leads at the time. It was also unclear if Oliver savage had been sexually assaulted in the attack but Robert would never be a suspect in the murder he would only be convicted of it after confessing to it over a decade later. In fact Robert was nowhere near the murders at the time. He had already already distanced himself from the nearby prison and found new employment as a movie theater. Usher sometime later in. Nineteen seventy five. He and Linda moved moved back to Roberts Hometown of Oak Harbor likely because his mother had been battling cancer shortly after arrival. twenty-three-year-old Robert Lee. Yates took took a job as a janitor at Whidbey Island hospital where his mother worked as the housekeeping supervisor in July nineteen seventy-six Robert and Linda through a second in wedding and were officially married. It took place in Oak Harbor with Robert's parents as witnesses. Linda officially took Roberts last name but she joined join the family just as another. Yates passed on on October. Ninth Nineteen Seventy six. Robert's mother Anna May died of cancer Robert and his friend Godley were pallbearers. At her funeral Gotti claimed that the death didn't affect Robert too much because Robert Anatomy didn't have a close relationship. He told the Seattle Times Times quote. Boys Aren't attached to their mothers. Like girl czar. He doesn't throw US over the edge end quote sometime in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven. Robert became a father father again when Linda gave birth to their second child Sonya on October Fourth Nineteen seventy. Seven Robert Enlisted in the US army at age twenty five five he was older than the other recruits but proceeded to train at basis in Missouri Texas and Massachusetts in one thousand nine hundred eighty twenty eight year. Old Robert was chosen goes into train as an army pilot fulfilling his childhood dream of flying in order to become an army pilot. Individuals or selected for special training called Warrant Officer Candidate School Roberts Training for this took place at Fort Rucker Alabama. The army's aviation centre in July nineteen eighty before he was allowed to fly I plains he started his training with helicopters. Robert became a highly skilled helicopter pilot. His colleagues called him an excellent pilot. Knowledgeable and safety conscious from nineteen eighty until nineteen. eighty-four Robert was stationed in Hanau Germany located about fifteen miles from Frankfurt. Linda Ed. His daughters remained in Washington but Robert visited the family while on leave during one of Robert's trips home Robin Linda expanded their family during in this time Linda gave birth to two more children their third daughter amber in nineteen eighty and their fourth daughter. Michelle who was born in Nineteen eighty-four. The Gates family now had four daughters. Sasha Amber Sonia and Michelle but despite their large family Robert and Linda seemed happy to keep their lives separate. She raised their daughters while Robert served in the military. He rarely mentioned his wife to his army colleagues and many didn't even know he was married even when he was back in the states Robert and Linda spent time apart in nineteen eighty-four thirty two year old. Robert became an instructor at Fort Rucker Alabama. uh-huh for various ages training battalions. He was an instructor pilot for the. Oh fifty eight. The Kiowa which was used as the army's Primary Observation Survey Shin helicopter at the time. Shortly after in Nineteen eighty-five Linda. Move back to Walla Walla with their children and did not depend on Roberts financial support report. Linda was happy for a bit but she found it hard to support herself and her daughters on her own. Linda said quote. I loved the separation but the girls were pleading to be with their dad. They didn't want to be poor and not have anything anymore and quote so Linda Reunited with Robert It in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight in July of that year while Robert Lee. Yates was on leave. He returned home to Oak Harbor. Meanwhile in nearby Skagit County twenty-three-year-old Stacy Elizabeth Hawn was working as a sex worker on July seventh nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight thirty six year old Robert Encountered Hawn presumably presumably while she was looking for customers. It's not clear. Exactly what happened during their encounter but months later on December twenty eighth nineteen eighty-eight authorities. I found Hans remains outside Mount Vernon she had been shot once in the head at first police believed that Han was a victim of Gary. Leon ridgway the Green River killer. He was another active serial killer who targeted sex workers in Washington state at the time however Robert confessed to murdering Hawn years years later and it would play a big role in his trial. Sometime in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight. The army re-stationed Robert in Germany. This time in Gulping again about one hundred and nine hundred miles from Eunuch. He remained there for three years. We don't know for sure if Robert Killed again in Germany but at present German authorities forties consider him a potential suspect in a string of twenty six unsolved homicides his involvement in those homicides is still being investigated in one thousand nine hundred nine. Robert's wife Linda who was still in the states gave birth to kyle the couple's first son and fifth child overall Robert Favored his son and began to neglect his four daughters. Sasha Sonya amber and Michelle. It's unknown in what ways he treated his son differently only then his daughters but it's usually typical for parents to view sons and daughters differently. Dr Glenn Wilson Professor in Gender and sexual psychology told the mirror that the fact that men and their sons share y chromosomes which carry more genetic material than women's double x chromosomes could point to an instinctual who'll preference for sons. It also may have to do with common interests. Wilson told the publication in two thousand ten before the birth of father would assume whom he connect with his son. Psychologically more so than with his daughter and that they'd have more shared interests such as playing football but regardless of how much Robert Character cared for any of his children. He was often too far from home to see them. Robert returned to the United States in nineteen ninety one and served as a flight instructor at the Fort Drum Base in New York. Robert was also part of the Fort Drum assault helicopter. Division handy went on several missions with team it was during one of these missions that Robert it drew attention to himself a story that would get more attention than many of.

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"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on 710 WOR

710 WOR

02:46 min | 2 years ago

"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on 710 WOR

"Zero mark David Chapman maybe Gary Leon Ridgway a John Wayne Gacy of Paul John Knowles a surgical Parker yeah thank you yet totally right you're probably a bad person anyway Daniel dean void photo be terrific fun to point his revolver at his twenty year old son what yes and pull the trigger just kill him in to court records White pointed the weapon at the sudden shouted Raphael tell me if this hurts this is your dad I would even died on almost want the bullet to come out to so I could like not be related to this person anymore on earth anyway well turns out it did because the weapon was loaded god which data the year relies on his son but she was staggered of laughing because thankfully is okay is okay the sound of the gunshot was likely a big clue to thankfully Raphael's okay after being treated at a local hospital for a shot pellet wounds okay okay to his hands his abdomen and his **** yeah dad that's where he was pointing and yeah he's in a bit more of a pickle at the house for report of the shooting police as required by law the sun told the police he been shot by a stranger trying to break into his car all because you want to get his Daddy intro yeah exactly but the investigation old man cover the truth that's why we're talking about it add to the fact the boys a convicted felon because he has three names and so is allowed to possess a gun to begin with any so yeah it's a violation of his terms of his probation yeah so go for we fast for to Monday sentencing at which time U. S. chief district judge Michael W. must been declared that boy eight or declared to void that he quote never heard of something so breathtakingly stupid in his life as he had done to his son I have to agree he is now sentenced to fifteen months in prison and that's a judge they hear the dumbest things I've got a five got two friends who are judges yes some of the stories they tell me I'm like that that happened in funny or court it's amazing that is amazing right yeah yeah I I I. AT it look you had a gun in your house growing up right never play around the you never assume that it's not loaded because there's a good chance a probably is I never even saw it I just knew it was there and I didn't even I don't even open the drawer to go anywhere near it is you're gonna is your mother the gun range tonight as we speak to her she's a very good shot published a very good shot it's scary when she comes home and she brings the target and they're all like right to the heart so that's why we treat her very nicely the cover we come back New Jersey my state puts out a map of where famous people grew up in the garden state who made the cut that's next on seven ten W. O. R. plus stick around for your next chance to win one thousand dollars that's at eight OO five new.

"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on KLIF 570 AM

KLIF 570 AM

08:53 min | 2 years ago

"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on KLIF 570 AM

"One eight six six five oh gimbal Markel shaker our guest is in the in the award winning documentary filmmaker user offer of a number of books and co author of this one the killer across the table from but Dey street books as we go back to our calls here I have to ask about about media coverage about the news coverage of a certain killer once especially becomes known to the public that there is such a person is out there about movies and TV shows and music as we just heard or even books like this to what extent do they feed on modern media. well there's no question that almost everybody feeds on modern media today what we say is you can't make somebody in the serial killer through media you can't prevent them from being a serial killer what we try to do is show with their without giving away any secrets of investigation we want to show what these people are really like and people is almost you know the wrong word to use these monsters but we do not glorified we do not make them into heroes and we do make the victims into real human beings because that's what they are. one eight six six five oh Jimbo our number one eight six six five oh five four six two six let's go to Robert in Charleston West Virginia now hello Robert. there you go again file thank you. your guess is there something about the ammo in the signature. but yeah the gal the kids were or what he did up there in New York he was never caught well I think I'm not sure I know which case you're referring to but many of them have not been caught. well yeah yeah yeah yeah you could do or have a name or anything else we could to try to identify this guy your watch movies documentary and I would recommend anyone to watch it because you remember the name of the documentary. it. Hey if we yeah I thought something really well but Robert we do not we do is estimate that anywhere between about twenty five and thirty five serial killers are operating in the United States in any given time really yeah I'm I I have to ask on what basis which is really interesting number in and we we glad he'd like to grasp at anything that can yeah well qualified the the parameters of this problem but but they don't exactly now we have a Facebook page it's not a hard and fast number but it's an extrapolation from the number of people who've been caught and the number of crimes that are out there that have been linked yeah wow that's that's pretty remarkable one eight six six five oh Jimbo one eight six six five oh five four six two six we go to Frank in Cumberland Maryland hello Frank. retro sugar you what direction Gary Leon Ridgway the Green River killer who as far as I know what's the worst that he killed between forty seven and a hundred the prostitutes if he's not the worst who is and also you didn't mention any blacks or women there's a famous woman prostitute one around killing men to kill quality. that was a pretty interesting case and finally what changes need to be made to to prevent more killings like this well you've asked some very interesting questions let me see if I can answer them in order what was the first the first one had to do with the worst denoted gloves yeah person well really well certainly for at a hundred ridge way certainly it was among the worst and not a typical unfortunately he was very similar to a a Pennsylvania killer name Stephen Canale same ammo he would pick up prostitutes along the highway and prostitutes aren't necessarily a victim of choice but we say that prostitutes children and old people have a lot in common why in street people as well white because they're vulnerable they're easy to attack they will get into a car with you so that's one of the reasons why a prostitutes. are often the victims of serial killers and also why long distance truck drivers have an advantage in this regard because they go from place to place they're hard to find is far is race and and get X. it is it is true that most of the predators are white this may have something to do with the dominance in society when John started in the FBI there were very few I think I can only think of two black serial killers offhand I think now as they're becoming more integrated into society if you will they are your see you're actually seeing more of them and as well as other minorities women yes there are a few of most of the women serial killers tend to be in a hospital type situation nurses and occupations like that we believe that when women have the same kind of bad backgrounds as men do very often they will turn it inward that you're not as aggressive as man they will be more self punitive they will become victims of abuse they will become drug takers they will become prostitutes whatever so we do not yes there are female serial killers but we just don't see them in anywhere near the proportion I'd say. may not fight as are sent as for the of the notion of what we do about all of this after that before the show was out but right now let's go to Erin in Saginaw Michigan on the go ahead and show with mark shaker co author of the killer across the table hello Aaron. taking my call sure two things real quick is anyone temper still alive yes he is. okay and my second question. many of them are able to compartmentalize what do you do as opposed to the know what's wrong they don't care whatever entities carry on a daily life to stand you don't I mean yes I do and that their Erin that's a very good question to a certain extent all of them can compartmentalize Joe's of Conroe who was whose em was to rape and murder the young daughters of friends of his because they would trust him and they was easier to go along with them he was able to compartmentalize to the point where after he killed one of his young female victims he was able to go to a parent teacher conference for one of his own children in the local school so if that's not compartmentalize in I don't know what on the other hand most of these people they are obsessed with their crimes and so one more in one part of their brain I would say they think about them all the time. wow all right one eight six six five oh Jimbo what eight six six five oh five four six two six two Frank in the Newark New Jersey hello Frank. are you doing German we're well my question is is that how realistic you are. mines and and those type of shows that I actually do that well the original character and in criminal minds that was played by Mandy Patinkin was based directly on my partner John Douglas as many of them are there's a certain amount of dramatic license there's even a certain amount of dramatic license and mind hunter on Netflix which is based directly on our book but you know you have to be dramatic but let's say profilers do not catch criminals they help police narrow their investigations and focus and then help them with proactive strategies to try to catch these people and then prosecute them so the L. I think any fictional show is going to is is going to probably heightened things and since I started this work my wife Carolyn who's an attorney and who's with me here in the studio she can't read the the serial killer novels anymore or watch these shows other than mine hunter of course because it she says they're just too unrealistic there is a website by the way of mine the hunters ink dot copyright holders I. N. C. dot com back with more of your calls one eight six six five oh Jimbo in just a moment I've been around a long time seen a lot of gadgets show up they're supposed.

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"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on WBAP 820AM

WBAP 820AM

08:11 min | 2 years ago

"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on WBAP 820AM

"Eight six six five zero JIMBO Markle shaker. Our guest is an EMMY award winning documentary. Filmmaker he's the author of a number of books and co authored, this one killer across the table from day street books as we go back to our calls here. I have to ask about about media coverage about the news coverage of a certain killer wants, especially becomes known to the public that such a person is out there about movies and TV shows and music as we just heard or even books like this to what extent do they feed on modern media? Well, there's no question that Paul most everybody feeds on modern media today. What we say is you can't make somebody into a serial killer through media. You can't prevent them from being a serial killer, what we try to do is show what their without giving away any secrets of investigation, we want to show, what these people are really like. And. People is almost, you know, the wrong word to use these monsters, but we do not glorify. We do not make them into heroes, and we do make the victims into real human beings, because that's what they are. What eight six six five zero JIMBO our number one eight six six five zero five four six two six go to Robert in Charleston. West Virginia now. Hello, robert. Again. Fi-. Thank you. Gift that something about the signature. But if the guy did poughkeepsie murder, or what he did up there in New York, he was never caught. I'm not sure I know which case you're referring to, but many of them have not been caught. That's what I meant. Yeah. You could have a neighbor or anything else that we could try to defy guy. No, I remember watching the movie documentary and recommend anyone to watch it. Because you remember the name of the documentary. It gets. Key tape if we. Yeah. I something, well, Robert we do we do of estimate that anywhere between about twenty five and thirty five serial killers are operating of the United States in any given time. Really I, I have to ask on what basis which is sorta interesting number, and we like to grasp at anything that can well-qualified the parameters of this problem. But, but they don't exactly know, it's never Facebook page. No, it's not a hard and fast number, but it's an extrapolation from the number of people who've been caught and the number of crimes that are out there that have been linked. Wow, that's, that's pretty remarkable. One eight six five zero JIMBO one eight six six five zero five four six two six we go to Frank in Cumberland, Maryland. Hello, frank. Shakur. You didn't Mexican Gary Leon Ridgway the green river killer, who as far as I know what's the worst forty seven in one hundred prostitutes. If he's not the worst, who is, and also you didn't mention any blacks or women, there was a famous woman, a prostitute one around killing men kill plenty. I went to pretty interesting case. I'm fine. We what changes need to be made to prevent more killings, like, well, you've asked them, very interesting questions, let me see if I can answer them in order, what was the first I had to do with the worst. He noted what get a person we'd four hundred Ridgway certainly was among the worst and not atypical. Unfortunately, he was very similar to a, a Pennsylvania killer named Stephen panel. Same m o he would pick up prostitutes along the highway, and prostitutes aren't necessarily a victim of choice. But we say that. Prostitutes children and old people have a lot in common. Why in street people as well? Why? Because they're vulnerable. They're easy to attack. They will get into a car with you. So that's one of the reasons why prostitutes are often the victims of serial killers. Also, why long distance truck drivers have an advantage in this regard because they go from place to place. They're hard to find is far as rayson. It is true that most of the predators are white. This may have something to do with the dominance in society, when John started in the FBI the were very. I think I can only think of two black serial killers offhand, I think now as they're becoming more integrated into society, if you will, they are you're, you're actually seeing more of them, as well as other minorities women. Yes, there are a few most of the women serial killers tend to be in a hospital type situation, nurses, and occupations like that. We believe that when women have the same kind of bad background says, men do very often they will turn inward. They are not as aggressive as men. They will be more self punitive. They will become victims of abuse, they will become drug-takers they will become prostitutes, whatever. So we do not. Yes, there are female serial killers, but we just don't see them in anywhere near. Or the proportion. I'd say may not five percent. That's the, the notion of what we do about all of this. We'll get to that before the show is out. But right now, let's go to Erin in Saginaw. Michigan on the Bohannon show with Mark shaker co author of the killer across the table. Hello. Erin. Greetings, taking my call. Sure. Two things over Edmund Kemper still alive. Yes, he is. Okay. My second question. How many of them are able to compartmentalize what they do as opposed to? They know what's wrong. They don't care, whatever that is carry on their daily lives. And you know what I mean? Yes, I do Erin, that's a very good question to a certain extent, all of them can compartmentalize Joseph Conroe, who was who's M was to rape and murder, the young daughters of friends of his because they would trust him and they was easier to go along with him. He was able to compartmentalize to the point where after he killed one of his young female victims. He was able to go to a parent teacher conference for one of his own children in the local school. So if that's not, compartmentalizing, I don't know what it was on the other hand, most of these people, they're obsessed with their crimes, and so on in one part of their brain, I would say they think about them all the time. Wow. All right. Eight six six five O, JIMBO one eight six six five zero five four six two six two. Frank in Newark, New Jersey. Hello, frank. Are you doing gentleman? We're well, my question is how realistic are criminal minds and those type of shows they actually do that. Well the original character in in criminal minds that was played by Mandy patinkin was based directly on my partner. John Douglas as many of them are. There's a certain amount of dramatic license. There's even a certain amount of dramatic license in mind hunter on Netflix, which is based directly on our book. But you know you have to be dramatic. But let's profiler do not catch criminals. They help police narrow their investigations and focus and then help them with proactive strategies to try to catch these people, and then prosecute them. So, you know, I think any fictional show is going to is, is going to probably heightened things. And since I started this work, my wife Carolyn who's an attorney who's with me here in the studio. She can't read the serial killer novels anymore, or watch these shows other mind hunter, of course, because she says they're just too unrealistic. There's a website, by the way, mind, hunters, Inc dot com, right. And hunters, INC dot com. Back with more of your calls, one eight six six five zero JIMBO in just. Moment. Are you tired of the nightmare of trading in a market that feels rigged? Don't you just want to see your account balance, grow, and not feel so anxious about every single trade?.

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"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on WTMJ 620

WTMJ 620

08:54 min | 2 years ago

"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on WTMJ 620

"Five O JIMBO Marco shake. Your our guest is an EMMY award winning documentary, filmmaker author of a number of books and co author of this one, the killer across the table from day street books as we go back to our calls here, I have to ask about about media coverage about the news coverage of a certain killer. What's especially becomes known to the public that such a person is out there about movies and TV shows and music as we just heard or even books like this to what extent do they feed on modern media? Well, there's no question that almost everybody feeds on modern media today of what we say is you can't make somebody into serial killer through media. You can't prevent them from being a serial killer. What we try to do is show what their without giving away any secrets of investigation, we want to show, what these people are really like and people is almost, you know, the wrong word to use these monsters, but. We do not glorify them. We do not make them into heroes, and we do make the victims into real human beings, because that's what they are. One eight six six five zero JIMBO our number one eight six six five zero five four six two six two Robert in Charleston, West Virginia. Now. Hello, robert. Hi, how are you going to get five? Thank you. Your gifts that, that something about the, the signature. But the guy did the kid he murdered or what we did up there in New York, he was never caught was. I'm not sure I know which case you're referring to, but many of them have not been caught. What I meant. Yeah. You could have a Maeve or anything else that we could try to defy guy. No. I didn't watch the movie documentary and recommend eating wanted to watch it. Because you remember the name of the documentary. If we I something. Well, Robert, we do. We do estimate that anywhere between about twenty five and thirty five serial killers are parading at the United States in any given time. Really, I have to ask on what basis which is sorta interesting number, and we like to grasp that anything that can well quantify the parameters of this problem. But, but they don't exactly know have a Facebook page. It's not a hard and fast number, but it's an extrapolation from the number of people who've been caught, and the number of crimes that are out there that have been linked. Wow. That's, that's pretty remarkable. What eight six six five zero JIMBO one eight six six five zero five four six two six we go to Frank in Cumberland, Maryland. Hello, frank. Girl, shake your you. Gary Leon Ridgway the green river killer, who as far as I know it's the worst, he he'll be cleaned forty-seven in one hundred prostitutes. If he's not the worst, who is, and also you didn't mention any blacks or women. There's a famous woman, a prostitute went around killing men killed plenty, I went to pretty interesting case. And finally, what changes need to be made to prevent more killings like this. Well, you've asked him very interesting questions, let me see if I can answer them in order, what was the first the first one had to do with the worst. He noted what the person really we'd four hundred Ridgway certainly was among the worst and not a typical, unfortunately, he was very similar to a Pennsylvania killer named Stephen panel. Same o. He would pick up prostitutes along the highway and. Prostitutes aren't necessarily a victim of choice. But we say that prostitutes children and old people have a lot in common. Why in St. people as well why? Because they're vulnerable. They're easy to attack. They will get into a car with you. So that's one of the reasons why prostitutes. Are often the victims of serial killers. And also why long distance truck drivers have an advantage in this regard because they go from place to place they're hard to find as far as race. And yet, actually, it is it is true that most of the predators are white, this may have something to do with the dominance in society, when John started in the FBI, the were very I think I can only think of two black serial killers offhand, I think now as they're becoming more integrated into society, if you will. They are your sick. You're actually saying more of them, and as well as other minorities women. Yes, there are a few most of the women serial killers tend to be in a hospital type situation, nurses, and occupations like that. We believe that when women have the same kind of bad backgrounds as. Men do very often. They will turn it inward. They are not as aggressive as men. They will be more self punitive. They will become victims of abuse, they will become drug-takers they will become prostitutes, whatever. So we do not. Yes, there are female serial killers, but we just don't see them in anywhere near the proportion. I'd say made off. I sent for the, the notion of what we do about all of this to that before the show is out. But right now, let's go to Aaron in Saginaw, Michigan on the Bohannon show with Marco shaker co author of the killer across the table. Hello. Erin. I think you're taking my call. Sure, Tuesday's things will quit Edmund Kemper still alive. Yes, he is. Okay. And my second question. How many of them are able to compartmentalize what they do is opposed to they know what's wrong? They don't care, whatever it is carry on the daily lives. And you don't yes I do Erin, that's a very good question to a certain extent, all of them can compartmentalize Joseph condo, who was who's MO was to rape and murder, the young daughters of friends of his because they would trust him and they was easier to go along with him. He was able to compartmentalize to the point where after he killed one of his young female victims. He was able to go to a parent teacher conference for one of his own children in the local school. So if that's not, compartmentalizing, I don't know what was on the other hand, most of these people. They're obsessed with their crimes, and so on in one part of their brain, I would say they think about them all the time. Wow. All right. What eight six six five zero JIMBO one eight six six five zero five four six two six two Frank in Newark, New Jersey. Hello, frank. How you doing gentleman? We're well, my question is how realistic are criminal minds and those type of shows they actually do that. Well the original character in in criminal minds that was played by Mandy patinkin was based directly on my partner. John Douglas as many of them are. There's a certain amount of dramatic license. There's even a certain amount of dramatic license in mind hunter on Netflix, which is based directly on our book. But you know you have to be dramatic but. Let's say profiles do not catch criminals. They help police marrow their investigations and focus and then help them with proactive strategies to try to catch these people, and then prosecute them. So I think any fictional show is going to is going to probably heightened things. And since I started this work, my wife Carolyn who's an attorney who's with me here in the studio. She can't read the serial killer novels anymore, or watch these shows other in mind hunter, of course, because she says they're just too unrealistic. There's a website, by the way, mind, hunters, Inc dot com, right, and hunter's INC dot com. Back with more of your calls one eight six six five zero JIMBO in just a moment. Are you tired of the nightmare of trading in a market that feels rigged? Don't you just want to see your account?.

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"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

KTAR 92.3FM

08:05 min | 2 years ago

"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"Seven eight thousand five hundred. Because we just heard or even books like this to what extent do they feed on modern media? Well, there's no question that almost everybody feeds on modern media today. What we say is you can't make somebody into a serial killer through media. You can't prevent them from being a serial killer, what we try to do is show what their without giving away any secrets of investigation, we want to show, what these people are really like. And people is almost, you know, the wrong word to use these monsters, but we do not glorify them we do not make them into heroes, and we do make the victims into real human beings, because that's what they are. One eight six six five O, JIMBO our number. One eight six six five zero five four six two six two Robert in Charleston West Virginia now. Hello, robert. Hi, how are you going, Jim fi? Thank you. Your gifts that something about the Emoto signature. But the, the guy the kid the murder, or what he did up there in New York. Never caught. Plus he I'm not sure I know which case you're referring to, but many of them have not been caught. Yeah. You could have a neighbor or anything else that we could try to defy this guy. I remember what the movie documentary and recommend anyone to watch it because you remember the name of the documentary. Yeah. I something. Well, Robert, we do we do of estimate that anywhere between about twenty five and thirty five serial killers are operating at the United States in any given time. Really I, I have to ask on what basis which is sorta interesting number, and we like to grasp, but anything that can well-qualified the, the parameters of this problem. But, but they don't exactly know, it's never Facebook page. No, it's not a hard and fast number, but it's an extrapolation from the number of people who've been caught and the number of crimes that are out there that have been linked. Wow, that's, that's pretty remarkable. One eight six six five O, JIMBO one eight six six five zero five four six two six we go to Frank in Cumberland, Maryland. Hello, frank. Mr. L Shakur, you Gary Leon Ridgway the green river killer, who as far as I know it's the worst he kill between forty seven in one hundred prostitutes. If he's not the worst, who is, and also you didn't mention any blacks or women, there's a famous woman a prostitute one around killing men. She killed plenty. That was a pretty interesting case. And finally, what changes need to be made to prevent more killings like this. Well, you've asked him very interesting questions. Let me see if I can answer them in order, what was the first the first one had to do with the worst. He noted what person really four hundred Ridgway, certainly was among the worst and not atypical. Unfortunately, he was very similar to a, a Pennsylvania killer named Stephen panel. Same m o he would pick up prostitutes along the highway, and prostitutes aren't necessarily a victim of choice. But we say that prostitutes children and old people have a lot in common. Why in St. people as well why because they're vulnerable. They're easy to attack. They will get into a car with you. So that's one of the reasons why process. The toots. Are often the victims of serial killers. And also why long distance truck drivers have an advantage in this regard because they go from place to place they're hard to find is far as race. And yet, it is true that most of the predators are white, this may have something to do with the dominance in society, when John started in the FBI, there were very few. I think I can only think of two black serial killers offhand, I think, now as beer becoming more integrated into society, if you will. They are your you're actually seeing more of them, and as well as other minorities women. Yes, there are a few most of the women serial killers tend to be in a hospital type situation, nurses, and occupations like that. We believe that when women have the same kind of bad backgrounds as men do very often they will turn it inward. They are not as aggressive as men. They will be more self punitive. They will become victims of abuse. They will become drug-takers they will become prostitutes, whatever. So we do not guess there are female serial killers, but we just don't see them in anywhere near the proportion. I'd say ninety five percent for the, the notion of what we do about all of this. We'll get to that before the show is out. But right now, let's go to Aaron in Saginaw, Michigan on the Bohannon show with Marco shaker co author of the killer across the table. Hello. Erin. I think if you're taking my call. Sure. Two things real quick. Edmund Kemper still alive. Yes, he is. Okay. My second question. How many of them are able to compartmentalize what they do as opposed to? They know it's wrong, they don't care, whatever it is carry on their daily lives. And you don't yes I do. And that Aaron. That's a very good question to a certain extent, all of them can compartmentalize Joseph condo, who was who's MO was to rape and murder, the young daughters of friends of his because they would trust him and they was easier to go along with him. He was able to compartmentalize to the point where after he killed one of his young female victims. He was able to go to a parent teacher conference for one of his own children in the local school. So if that's not, compartmentalizing, I don't know what it was on the other hand, most of these people, they're obsessed with their crimes, and so on in one part of their brain, I would say they think about them all the time. Wow. All right. One eight six six five zero JIMBO one eight six six five zero five four six two six two. Frank in Newark, New Jersey ELO, Frank. How you doing gentleman? We're well, my question is how realistic are criminal minds and those type of shows they actually do that. Well the original character in in criminal minds that was played by Mandy patinkin was based directly on my partner. John Douglas as many of them are, there's a certain amount of dramatic license, there's even a certain amount of dramatic license in mind hunter on Netflix, which is based directly on our book, but, you know, you have to be dramatic, but let's say profiler do not catch criminals. They help police narrow their investigations and focus and then help them with proactive strategies to try to catch these people, and then prosecute them. So, you know, I think any fictional show is going to is going to probably heightened things. And since I started this work, my wife Carolyn who's an attorney who's with me here in the studio. She can't read the serial killer novels anymore, or watch these shows other in mind hunter, of course, because she says they're just too unrealistic. There's a website,.

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"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

01:35 min | 2 years ago

"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Addition from NPR news and that starts at five o'clock this morning here on. Next time on radio. What is there in human nature that allows individuals to act inhumanely harshly? Severely, did you do this? Why did you inflict all the suffering on them on us was my president fair? I had just everybody at some point have something darkened just tiptoes out just from time to time. Hey, I'm jaboomer. I'm remembered crow, which is radio lab today, we're talking about. Well, we're trying to think about what goes on in the mind of bad person. We come to any kind of agreement with the hopper. He didn't leave books, diaries and say, like what were you thinking? So in this last section we're going to try to get close to a very bad man, and we could ask then the question really wonder about is what difference would that make. Yeah. But we should warn you ahead of time this next section of the program has some references, which are extremely graphic not to everybody's taste. So we have kids in the in the maybe this time to come to go there, Keith or something. Yeah. They comes to us from I reporter. Who who is this guy? This is Jeff Johnson. And he's a reporter ally. And he wrote this graphic novel that I read about one of the most prolific serial killers in US history. Gary Leon Ridgway the green river killer. The first victims of the.

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"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on 710 WOR

710 WOR

12:44 min | 2 years ago

"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on 710 WOR

"Kind of crime and punishment theme that were. On today? Christmas for you, isn't it? Yeah. Oh, it just the vertebra higher thing is eighteen books, you've written. How many have to do with somebody getting killed or about crime? Are you eighteen eighteen now? Now fifteen at them, you did a cooking book, didn't you now Zahn you at least know cooking bucks. Okay. Good. Though. That would be a very that would be a short story require you to actually eat. I like to eat, but it would be a I wasn't going to say novella. It would be short story. Okay. Neck and cheese, my daughter for years. All she would eat MAC and cheese. The poor man fast craft kind, the poor minutes got me through college. Oh I I love it. My love it. Okay. There is a sex offender for bested for Florida murder here in Manhattan. Right. And he was busted for the Florida border. It was horrible. I mean, the old man it was like his body was just decaying there in Florida, but they caught him here in Manhattan. So when they caught him here. In Manhattan, who has got, you know, dead derides, pardon the pun there. They got him here and there, you know, getting to go he waived extradition. Meaning he said, okay, I'll go to Florida for face this murder charge. And they said, you know, by the way, he was a convicted rapist had long criminal history. And they said, you know, by the way, how'd you do it? And he says, oh with my bare hands, you know, ghoulish enough, right? Yeah. Right. And then they said reporter asked him this wasn't complete. So no worry about Miranda rights or anything like that. A reporter asked him, this lovely guy, a convicted rapist notice Brent savage reporter asked him. You know how many people did you kill? And he says, after a long pod, he says thirty two. Right. So sick in the head, though, you just tell the truth or not. Like, okay where's body number one? Like what's the process from here was someone confessed something interesting that you ask, like, so the he went back and he says, well, look. So then the police start actually talking to him because it's just could be attention seeking could be he sick in the head. He says, though he starts giving details. He says, well, other in addition to the grisly murder that I've already confessed to in that. You've got me on this, you know, this, this older gentleman in Florida. They're six more murders in Florida, California, Georgia, starting back as far as nineteen ninety nine it a frequent flyer, where he could just fly around the country, and do this, the people hats or preps drive Florida, California, Georgia. Yeah, you can try those places. I mean, doesn't, you know got time on his hands tried to Baone can't do long rides. That's what you throw up or something, I just I I'm in a car for more than three hours. And I'm like there's gotta be a better way for me to get wherever I'm going because you're Taipei he's planning the next murder. He's got like ocean city from here. You gotta get on, like a boat on Cape May, and they take the Delaware and then you go back in the car for an hour and a half. No. Thanks, man. Stay land murders. Takes. That's true. That's true in the car you need your time. You know any nNcholas sprint Gibson, by the way. Right. That's, that's his name. Oh, Guthrie names lease. Yes, you know, in my next novel when I have a murderer I, I will give him a no, I can't see now I would give it away, though. 'cause I in, in novels, you've always got red herrings. Oh that'll be the red herring will give the guy a three three person three name. Gary Leon Ridgway. Right. John Wayne gates. Okay. Here we go. All John Knowles. By the way. Guys, David Chapman, is conscious little thing. He's got this all the bad guys have got Louis to doubt it now, suddenly, you're seeing thing. Yeah, right. Dropped by mental name a couple of years ago for this reason by William just joke onto, and where your, your dad is thrilled with that. I'm sure that I was named after John Amos. He doesn't care. Willie. You're really cares. That's nice. Imagine once engineer that she had him on the show. Okay. You work on that. Will I talk about this story? Please fascinating. So anyway, so they, they believe that they think there might be some validity to this thirty two if they could wrap up thirty two murders or some of them, you know, at least that would be amazing. I mean this guy has been done. Seven years aggravated sexual assault. He's had sex with underage girl rape. I mean yeah. Yeah. Citizen. The same thing it's got like the Mike. Tyson thing in the face, as far as the, you know, the two tear coming off. That's one tattoo coming off of one of his is Oliver's, neck. This guy looks to range. I mean if he wasn't charged with anything I would have had him arrested anyway, just for looking like someone who could do all the things you just described. Well, you can't you can't do that. But anyway, so tear tattoo means prison. Trevor the producer tells me my air yes from time to time that's what it means means they've been there. Really? Yes. And may have some kind of association to other people association gangs, some, you know, all really or something anyway, story to follow thought that you'd be interested after the murder-for-hire thing that we did in the first hour. Wow. So now let's go to Alabama where many women are very concerned after this new law, that just passed on the St. most restrictive law against abortion, and the abortion, flood the abortion clinics have been flooded with calls because women are very concerned that. Now, the, the law is going to take place immediately and they will not be able to get abortion at all in the state of Alabama. And so the clinics have been you know, just plug up with these calls, because it when are so concerned. Okay, first of all, the law will not take place. It's not legislated to take place for another six months, but they've been having to say to all these women, you're fine, you can still come in, but they don't realize many of them that's not gonna take place for the next six months. And that's even if it were to take place, which I told you it will never happen. It will go to supreme court this or another estate case, one of these cases we'll go to the supreme court. So I don't see this ever taking place but it's causing just, you know, great turmoil in the state of Alabama and you could say the country in the country talking about we are. And it's interesting from the right who were seeing saying, wait a minute. This is a little too much like the RNC chair in Alabama, for instance, of Republican National Committee chairman said, I would have the exceptions, that's my personal belief. That's the RNC chair saying that they're distancing themselves. And Pat Robinson, Pat Robertson, excuse Robertson. Robinson Robertson, said that yesterday as well that, that this goes too far. That's Pat Robertson saying that. So how house GOP leader says Alabama the Boertien law goes too far. So the California rep Kevin McCarthy is the house minority leader. Oh, told reporters that he said it goes further than I believe that's quote. He believes that there should be exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother that her GOP leader tr- trying to run on that, right? It's, it's the caucus all over again. Remember in eighty eight hundred caucus was running for president and he was against capital punishment Shaw, asked him if kidding a caucus or rape them, murder, would you want to execute the person who did that? That's not the exact question, but I'm paraphrasing. You're right. And he answered like a robot. It was horrible. So let's say you're any Republican, and you have to defend this even though it may not have happened your state now. I don't see how you defend it. And we had some calls last night. You know, saying, well, you know, you still should carry the baby to term. I'm sorry, that that kind of that kind of nightmare. For nine months. If you a rape and incest, is right, basically what you described. It's true. I'm sorry. That's got be the exception that, that's the humane thing to do for the mother who shouldn't be able to be put through that. I, I don't see how you logically can argue against that. But I know there's some folks out there who aren't thinking of the baby and understand the baby is innocent all this, they conceived as relevant to that, baby. But I think you gotta draw the line somewhere and that's where the line is drawn just in Alabama. Because now I've counted up all the states because, you know that I'd Missouri's test today, right? Yep. Not as extreme, not as extreme Alabama is the most extreme got them kind of all listed. Alabama is the most extreme near-total ban. Arkansas's in eighteen week Georgia is just when they hear the fetal heartbeat. Kentucky fetal. Heartbeat, Mississippi, fetal heartbeat, Ohio fetal heartbeat Utah eighteen weeks. Okay. So those are the ones where there are signed into legislation those laws, not take effect but laws. All right, where we have fetal heartbeat band, still pending, Illinois, Louisiana. Minnesota, Missouri South Carolina. Tennessee Texas West Virginia, New York, New York, and they just pass late term abortion. New York fetal heartbeat band still passing pending. Okay. So in New York kinda confused by that, but yeah, so interesting. Now, so now just this just today, Elizabeth Warren has in response to all this unveiled her abortion rights platform. So now some of the Democrats are saying, look, while all this is happening in the backdrop. We need to take affirmative statutory rights that would block states from interfering with healthcare providers. So in other words, while this is all happening in the state in this backdrop, we need to we had one caller, call in yesterday who said, look, ropy weight is not a law, and she's right? Nice look. And I said, you're right. If I miss stated, I meant to say case law, and people don't care about this. Well, in other words, Roe v. Wade is precedent and Roe v. Wade found that in the constitution, there is a right to privacy that woman has, so it's precedent, but it is not a law. And so what Elizabeth Warren and Democrats, I'm just I'm just kicking her out because she just is the latest come up with this idea. Just one of many is saying, we need to pass actual legislation actual laws on the books in different states that we passed new legislation. I don't know exactly what it looked like. I'm not sure Elizabeth Warren as actually drafted legislation, and whether it's a federal law or or state state by state, but it would come from the legislative branch as opposed to the judicial branch. So instead of something coming, or maybe in addition to the something coming from the judicial branch, we would now have something come from. Coming from the legislative branch. So he I don't know if the folks in Alabama had thought about this, but what they're doing or what they've just done may have just really pushed some on the, the Democrats say, all right. You know what we better? Get working harder on getting the legislator legislative branch to try to pass something here. I think sometimes things are past lease for symbolic reasons. Maybe I think when you say, oh, a doctor is going to go to jail for ninety nine years that seems almost two pie in the sky, extreme would actually it is completely extreme. But, but the way it's, it's almost too much to point where they say, well, it's actually be a loss. Let's really put some behind it and look. I'm reading more and more stories today that there's no way, forget the obviously, the four liberal justices never vote for an a billion years. But just as cavenaugh Justice Roberts gorse, no one's going to go along with. So I find all this like, look, it's a good debate to have, I guess, for conversation. But this will never be reality. No shot because of Robie Wade in the president, that, that it provides almost sound like I'm a lawyer there. He just look at that. You're going to be ready to argue from the supreme court. In front of my kids, but your vegetables, I demand an appeal. So anyway, so this is we're going to see I predict that we're going to see more and more of this, where Democrats would soom are going to be coming up with legislation to potentially now. Go against. Okay. Okay..

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"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on Serial Killers

Serial Killers

13:21 min | 2 years ago

"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on Serial Killers

"Him. He became a guard at the prison in July nineteen seventy-five though, this career would be short lived some sources say twenty three year old Robert worked at the prison for three to four months and others say he lasted up to six months before he quit either way. Linda's family were confused by Roberts sporadic behavior. It didn't help that Robert gave no explanation for quitting. In fact, his real motive for distancing himself from the area wouldn't be unearthed for over a decade Robert had begun to kill. We'll learn of Roberts first victims in a moment. Torrid is a fashion brand for women who wear sizes ten to thirty. And they have everything you could possibly imagine. They have jeans intimates, cute dresses and tops. They even have shoes accessories and jewelry, my friend Lizzie. 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You spend torrid dot com promo code serial fifteen. Now back to the story. In one thousand nine hundred seventy five Robert Lee resigned from the Washington state penitentiaries suddenly and without explanation, but the real reason for his resignation may have been related to his first two known murders on July thirteenth nineteen seventy five. Twenty one year old Patrick Oliver and twenty two year old Susan savage. We're to close friends spending some time together and mill creek park in Walla Walla, Oliver and savage had good reputations. In the town. They were both. Well, liked top students who came from good families. He had just returned from studying in France, while savage recently, graduated from Washington state university, the friends met up for a picnic in mill creek park and even went for a swim in the lake mill creek park now known as mill creek dam and Bennington lake is a popular spot in Walla Walla the sprawling six hundred acre recreational area has many hiking trails, according to the Washington trails association is also a popular spot for burgers biker. There's hunters runners and anglers that day Robert Gates was in the same area for hunting target practice. It's not clear why or how but Robert approached the couple's sometime during his target practice activities. Walla Walla county sheriff Mike Humphries told the Walla Walla union bulletin quote. I think he went up there to target shoot. Like, he usually did he came across these people and it happened and quote his shot. Oliver three times the last bullet was especially fatal it pierced Oliver's heart propert, left savage with two fatal gunshot wounds, one in her shoulder and the other in her head behind her left ear Robert took most of the clothes off Savage's unconscious body and placed on top of Oliver in a sexual manner. Robert covered both dead bodies with a pile of brush and army sleeping bag and a tire killers sometimes position the bodies of their victims in suggestive. Ways in order to send a message, author and investigative historian Peter Vronsky elaborated on this in his book, serial killers, the method and madness of monsters. They're two ways a killer could position a body post mortem, the first is called staging when the killer arranges the corpses in a way meant to confuse or mislead investigators. But if the victims are arranged in a sexual or perverse manner that fulfils the killers own fantasies. It's called posing considering that Oliver and savages bodies were hidden from plain sight, Robert may have been posing the corpses to act out a perverse fantasy for his own pleasure. According to a two thousand four study in the journal of forensic science killers who pose bodies wanna shock anyone who discovers the bodies of the victims. The study also found that female victims tend to be the ones who are staged posed or left in some kind of unusual position after being murdered posed bodies can. Indicate that sexual assault had occurred. And that the manner of death was particularly hands on for the killer usually victims who are left in an unusual position have been stabbed bound or bludgeoned Robert killed savage at point blank range, which also denotes a certain hands on closeness to next day. Oliver's brother, Dan, and his uncle Frank Munn noticed Oliver and savage didn't return home the night before Dan Inman, went out looking for them at mill creek, Dan, recalled I saw funny arrangement of debris near the edge of the creek by found them Dan in mon-, drove straight to the local police station to report what they had found in the park. Police investigated the murder and didn't turn up any leads at the time. It was also unclear if Oliver savage had been sexually assaulted in the attack, but Robert would never be a suspect in the murder. He would only be convicted of it after confessing to it over a decade later, in fact. Robert was nowhere near the murders. At the time. He had already distanced himself from the nearby prison and found new employment as a movie theater usher sometime later in one thousand nine hundred seventy five he and Linda moved back to Roberts hometown of oak Arbor likely because his mother had been battling cancer. Shortly after arrival Twenty-three-year-old, Robert Lee aids took a job as a janitor at Whidbey island hospital where his mother worked as the housekeeping supervisor in July nineteen Seventy-six Robert and Linda through a second wedding and were officially married it took place in oak Arbor with Robert's parents as witnesses Linda officially took Roberts last name. But she joined the family just as another year it's passed on on October, ninth nineteen seventy six Robert's mother, Anna may died of cancer, Robert and his friend Godley were pallbearers at our funeral Gotti claimed that the death didn't affect Robert too much because Robert anatomy. He didn't have a close relationship. He told the Seattle times. Quote, boys aren't attached to their mothers like girls are. It doesn't throw us over the edge and quote sometime in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven Robert became a father again when Linda gave birth to their second child Sonya on October fourth nineteen seventy seven Robert listed in the US army at age twenty five he was older than the other recruits, but proceeded to train at basis in Missouri, Texas and Massachusetts in one thousand nine hundred eighty twenty eight year old Robert was chosen to train as an army pilot fulfilling his childhood dream of flying in order to become an army pilot individuals or selected for special training called warrant officer candidate school Roberts training for this took place at fort Rucker, Alabama, the army's aviation centre in July nineteen eighty before he was allowed to fly planes. He started his training with helicopters Brevard became a highly skilled helicopter pilot, his color. Called him an excellent pilot knowledgeable and safety conscious from nineteen eighty until nineteen Eighty-four Robert was stationed in Germany located about fifteen miles from Frankfurt, Linda and his daughters remained in Washington, but Robert visited the family while on leave during what of Robert's trips home, Robert Linda expanded their family during this time, Linda gave birth to two more children their third daughter amber in one thousand nine hundred eighty and their fourth daughter Michelle who was born in nineteen Eighty-four the eights family now had four daughters Sasha amber, Sonia, and Michelle, but despite their large family, Robert and Linda seemed happy to keep their lives separate she raised their daughters, while Robert served in the military, he rarely mentioned his wife to his army colleagues, and many didn't even know he was married even when he was back in the states, Robert and Linda spent time apart in one thousand nine hundred four thirty two. Year old Robert became an instructor at fort Rucker, Alabama for various aviation training battalions he was an instructor pilot for the OH fifty eight the Kiowa which was used as the army's primary observation helicopter at the time shortly after in one thousand nine hundred five Linda moved back to Walla Walla with their children and did not depend on Roberts financial support Linda was happy for a bit. But she found it hard to support herself and her daughters on her own Linda said, quote, I loved the separation, but the girls were pleading to be with their dad. They didn't want to be poor and not have anything anymore and quote, so Linda reunited with Robert in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight in July of that year. While Robert Lee was on leave he returned home to Okara. Meanwhile, in nearby Skagit county Twenty-three year-old Stacy Elizabeth Hawn was working as a sex worker on July. Seventh nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight. Eight thirty six year old Robert encountered Hawn presumably while she was looking for customers. It's not clear exactly what happened during their encounter. But months later on December twenty eighth nineteen Eighty-eight. Authorities found haunts remains outside mount Vernon she had been shot once in the head at first police believed that Han was a victim of Gary Leon Ridgway the green river killer. He was another active serial killer who targeted sex workers in Washington state at the time, However, Robert confessed to murdering Hawn years later, and it would play a big role in his trial sometime in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight the army re-stationed, Robert and Germany this time in gulping in about one hundred and nine hundred miles from eunuch, he remained there for three years. We don't know for sure if Robert killed again in Germany, but at present German authorities consider him a potential suspect in a string of twenty six unsolved homicides. His imb. Element in those homicides is still being investigated in one thousand nine hundred nine Robert's wife, Linda who was still in the states gave birth to Kyle the couple's first son and fifth child. Overall, Robert favored is son and began to neglect his four daughters Sasha Sonya, amber, and Michelle it's unknown in what ways he treated his son differently than his daughters? But it's usually typical for parents to view sons and daughters differently. Dr Glenn Wilson, professor in gender and sexual psychology told the mirror that the fact that men and their sons share y chromosomes which carry more genetic material than women's double x chromosomes could point to an instinctual preference for sons, it also may have to do with common. Interests Wilson told the publication in two thousand ten before the birth of father would assume he'd connect with his son, psychologically, more so than with his daughter and that they'd have more shared interests such as. Playing football. But regardless of how much Robert Kerridge for any of his children. He was off in too far from home to see them Robert returned to the United States in one thousand nine hundred ninety one and served as a flight instructor at the fort drum bass in New York, Robert was also part of the fort drum assault helicopter division. Andy went on several missions with the team. It was during one of these missions that Robert drew attention to himself a story that would get more attention than many of his murders in December nineteen ninety two. He served in operation restore hope in Somalia while serving Robert and his fellow soldiers became tired of eating army food and craved barbecue Robert decided to do something about it. One day he flew the Kiowa helicopter over a nearby forest and took aim at a wild pig below. The pig was hit Robert and the rest of the crew landed the helicopter after the shot. They gutted the pig and loaded it onto the helicopter thrilled for the fresh meat. Robert was not reprimanded for his unauthorized joyride or unbecoming actions. Dennis mills who served with Robert recall that it wasn't taken very seriously. He told the Seattle times, quote, they tried to court martial him because he didn't go through the proper channels. It all turned into a big joke after

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"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on Radiolab

Radiolab

05:41 min | 3 years ago

"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on Radiolab

"Into. He's a soldier. He works for general. Generals name is fellow. They're supposedly chums, but general fellow has no idea that the. Oh. So he plans to destroy fellow and we don't exactly know why there are hints of reasons like maybe he thinks fellow sleeping with his wife. We're not sure. But the weird thing is that he decides not just to take down fellow, but everybody. He stirs up hatred between friends between lovers even schemes against his own wife. This is just somebody who's performing brain surgery, where that other people. He's a master plotter and as for why maybe a fellow was sleeping with Amelia. But as the play goes on, you begin to think that maybe that's just another lie. Eventually Iago convinces Othello that his wife has been disloyal, which she hasn't. And then fellow goes and kills his own. Smothering her with a pillow. This is just had soon NAMI of evil that passes through the. In at the very end of the play when everyone finds out what Iago's done fellow asks him, why? Why did you do this. Iago he refuses what. We fully expect in what everybody on stage at that moment fully expects from him. What does he say? Demand me nothing. What you know. This time. Fourth, I never will speak word. I'm not saying word, I'm not gonna give you what you want. I'm not gonna give you. I'm not going to help restore the sense that there is a more order to the world and a moral norm. What you know, you know. If this is the singular moment in shakes where he gives you understandably, evil man, no motives. No reason. Any idea what the hell he was intending. What you know, you know. Meeting any idea what was in his mind was he trying to make a commentary on those grappling with something we know. You know. Make you want to shower the minute. You leave the Sierra. You are sallied by them. Thank you. James Shapiro whose most recent book is called contested. Will you know what. Yeah. Well, you know what I'm left thinking though is like if you could somehow, I mean, that was make belief, but if you could somehow get a real Iago the room and subject that person to questioning and really get them to sort of fess up as to why they did it, would that make a difference? We should say that this next section of the program has some references which extremely graphic and not to everybody's taste. We have kids in the in the room, maybe this is timely timely. Go brush their teeth or something. Yeah. Yeah. It comes to us from reporter, Aaron spot. Let's meet you who who is this guy over here? This is Jeff Johnson and he's a reporter in ally. And he wrote this graphic novel that I read about. One of the most prolific serial killers in US history, Gary Ridgway the green river killer. The first victims of the green river killer were found in the summer of nineteen eighty to the green river murders terrorize Seattle in the nineteen eighty in Seattle today, a man called the green river killer Ridgway murdered at least forty nine women's so called green river killer. But it's suspected that it could be upwards of seventy five making him the most prolific serial killer in American history. All the victims were prostitutes. He buried them or left their bodies in these little clumps in the woods kinda seem to place the bodies as if they were and in January of nineteen Eighty-four. The green river taskforce was formed, and my father was recruited the task force, Jeff wrote this book because his father, Tom Johnson was one of the lead detectives tr. Racking, Gary Ridgway. He ultimately spent seventeen years searching for this man in December of two thousand one, my father and his colleagues of Mick, the arrest DNA testing matched him to the crime. They arrest Gary, Leon, Ridgway, and June. Thirteenth, two thousand and three, Gary was secretly taken out of his jail cell and brought to is for very nondescript, concrete gli office building and over the next six months from June to early December, who is Tom's job to get Gary to open up and give up the few details that they really need it to Lincoln, certifiably all these crimes. It is Jones. Three time now is thirty six hours so everyday they would bring them into this conference room says continuation of interview with Gary on Ridgeway and interrogate him. Remember since we last talked.

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"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

01:37 min | 3 years ago

"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"I had it ridgway had it he acted on it i didn't and if you had those things in your childhood rest a little easier i guess that wall some people including the fbi behavioral unit did think there was a correlation between having the tryout and doing some naughty stuff when you're older there has been no conclusive study proving the link okay well let's look at his inconclusive stuff let's look into the life of this sick fuck this gary ridgway the green river killer with today's time suck timeline strap on those boots soldier where martin down a time sucker time line gary leon ridgway was born february eighteenth nineteen forty nine in salt lake city second of three brothers parents thomas newton ridgway mary rita ridgway live the rented room near local high school the oldest brother gregory ridgway was also more than one thousand forty eight salt lake city youngest brother thomas edward ridgway was born in nineteen fifty one public records do not reveal where the family lived at that time sadly not a lot of other information released known about his early childhood about the first twelve years of his life his family after his capture understandably not real interested in talking about young gear bear we'd probably know a lot more but gary wasn't apprehended until he was fifty two years old his mom born nineteen twenty eight shoot have been seventythree by that time but according to a neighbor she died before he was captured like not find an obituary reference for his mother but some of his former neighbours remember gary going to the funeral of his mom before he was.

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"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

01:53 min | 3 years ago

"gary leon ridgway" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"Gary ridgway the green river killer real piece of shit misogynistic misfit prayed on the weakest members of society young female street prostitutes runaways women already marginalized the lows wrong society mere sexual objects to be used as the men who bought their body south fit and no one used a more than gary you took everything from futures took their hopes and dreams the ones short lifetime a desperate choices hadn't already removed useful light ones is most of us are fortunate enough to have or at least experienced for a while when we were in our teens and twenties that feeling that anything was possible or that if things weren't where the you want them to be there was still time to change course well he took that he ended the hope that was there you know that there is still time to get things right he took what little was left their lightning fucking snuffed it out you watch to go out and then after taking that last bit of these women's lives he refused even allow them dignity in death you return to the body dump sites desecrated their bodies time and time again as he saw fit let her family's wonder what had happened to their daughters year after year here you let them fear the worst and the worst was what happened to them gary leon ridgway will be convicted of murdering forty nine women in western washington state he confessed to killing forty eight and two thousand three to avoid the death penalty he was given forty eight life sentences plus another four hundred and eighty years ten years for tampering with evidence in each of the forty eight murders and then in two thousand eleven forty nine th body was found and he was given another life sentence you claim over twenty additional murders on top of the ones he was convicted of feels like any sense and involves allowing you to still live when you've been convicted of killing forty nine human beings seems a little soft but it was the only way to get closure on so many homicide cold cases so now sadly this complete fucking dirtbags still alive curling cars rated at the age of sixty nine washington state penitentiary walla walla washington where you know damn well he's making a lot of six nine jokes.

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