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Episode 293 - Frank Trigg

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Episode 293 - Frank Trigg

"That Mike Is Yours. And you see the podcast. Already started before the introduction Get excited with every guest. I have on here a lot of. I'm sorry interrupt you clean this thing. That was last touched by Stephen Pierce she the the singer from Iraq. So can you go ahead and give you a brand Mike. Because I know where he's been. Listen you want brand new. My Skull on Rogan's podcast. This is a low budget operation I'm GonNa give this man the introduction. He deserves. I don't have many people who are in any hall of fame. This might be well. Don frye was on this podcast. One of my first celebrity guest. Ast and I love Don. Frye hope he's doing well in Arizona. this man is a second. You'd see hall of Famer I've had on. It's he's referee. Now which makes perfect sense Place and he's probably the toughest guy with the nickname of twinkle toes. Give you for Mr Frank Trigg. You know I hate that nickname I mean. I felt weird even saying to you but it is your nickname. I'm trying to get rid of that thing for now. It's been almost twenty years right. Hold on twenty years. I'm trying to think for more than twenty years. I mean I was. I aware that nickname through I believe his name is the voice. Michael Michael Chabala. He gave it to you right. No no no. I got Lucia Ferrelli. Who was my manager time? His brother Rico was my trainer They gave it to me because I pay my toenails knows in Japan. He asked a female fight fight fan. You know who is your favorite fighter. The frights rover and everyone's kind of you know San Autographs and taking pictures all that stuff and and she was like. Oh I like the ball. Garo tattoos that note it down onto every American. That was on the car and Japan's near going to every single American guy who was on the car while a ball had tattoos and she's like oh the WOM- Toes and it stock. He's a total toast. Oh so he just ran with it and then he just that became the nickname you know. He also came up with the natural for couture Yasser came up with. What was Henderson's Hendro Hollywood is now back. Who was Hollywood Henderson? That was Louis came up with that one too He get with everybody's nicknamed that was part of the raw team. And so but I hate it from the very beginning to. It was a non like it and I've tried to get rid of it and just stuck. Thank God now You know the Beltran. The referee with two things super long beard. Yeah He gave me a new one Tristesse. Now that's running around in the Russian community tribulations as the riffing community Tight because I would. I would imagine you're all up for the same gigs. There's a big card this weekend Magazine and McGregor. That one guy the guy I gotta that'd be honest with you. I think there's too many cards I don't even see this like this is a pretty big fight and you. I haven't seen much on it well L.. Let me let me correct you slightly. This is a pretty big fight because conor McGregor is on this fight. It makes it bigger because he's fighting. Donald Sironi Aronie so with the UFC. All they really need is a main event. Indoor Komeda meant to be huge that will sell out the entire arena that will maximize mys- paper views. The rest occurred can be can be straight garbage right. Honestly it'd be straight garbage. It doesn't matter if they have a guy conor McGregor around the card. It's going to sell out. He says up by himself. You put one of the bad guys on the planet and Donald Cerrone on the card as well. It's going to do very well put those two together. It's fireworks it's going to sell you know I mean that's how it works for those guys like. I'm a heavyweight guy. I agree with everything you just said And even if I didn't agree with you you could kill me I'm fascinated by how like here. I am Mr Tough Hockey player and you could literally submit me in under five seconds. Well it's all relative The Truth Steve McKenna used to be married. Louisa forces one of my really good friends Seven to fifty. I used to beat the crap out of on the Mat. Put me on glass with livestream about shrimp to the bottom of my feet. Put a club in my hand. Let's change rock around on that glass and see what happens. You guys went every single time. It's so relative to the sport that you're in and we practice timing. Yeah Can I. Can I be most normal guys in the street. We're walking on the street and starts arguing with my wife. Can I defend her. Yes absolutely well you can too. You can do that as well. But you're not defending her against me because I'm not going to be. That guy was gonna try to start a fight with your fiance. I'm going to do that. That's not my game. The game game of the idiot. That does that that we can beat up. It doesn't matter because we're athletes between a baseball player. A catcher a guy that that's fourth that's the fourth utility guy for the outfield world. That played for the Houston Astros. While they're cheating winning. Winning a world series could still beat up that guy because he's an athlete. So that's the thing you have to get around it was like yeah you versus versus me on this wood floor inside inside your house. I'm winning oh I shouldn't put me on some ice. Let's see what happens. You're beating the crap Outta my catch you. I wouldn't even know what to do with you. Let's just say in the wildest scenario that We got mad at each other. I wouldn't even know like I. I would take one Chango Ongo. I hope I knock him out. That's your that's your best bet. That's my only be. I be last me I in runaway last. That's that's where you have to do but I'll assume I wouldn't be able to knock hugh out and then I'm in trouble. Well it depends. How much drinking am I am? I not paying attention to the backside and hit me behind the ear. You'd be amazed at how easy is the. Knock somebody out if you get them right and if I'm not paying attention I'm not ready for it like we're not the biggest problem when fight starts. Is that people start talking about fighting before they fight. Now we're talking about St Street fight so you now in his argument and we're getting accelerated. Things are sort of jumped up and then we start pushing shoving and then I was somebody get down right. It's like well that whole time. I'm waiting for that thing to happen if you and I an argument and you are going to go to the bathroom and I'm like okay. Let's go back to doing whatever and I'm taking it taking a drink and you come from behind me punching back of the head. You're probably going out because I'm not ready for it. I'm not looking for it but if I'm looking at you and I'm ready for it. You're not catching like what we let's say we're going to I'm just so curious. 'cause the last five I got an choked out in a hockey game I didn't realize the guy was a sheriff. And he did this amazing maneuver where he pushed me. We were face to face and he pushed me really hard with his left hand on my shoulder and it turned me around instantly instantly. Okay put me in a chokehold like a rear naked standing up and I was a well because well first of all for sheriff. He's not supposed to do that because that would be illegal to do on a perpetrator because he was in. He was in hockey game. It's totally fine. What about so And he it was little like he was probably I don't know maybe five six probably outweighed them At least seventy five pounds sounds and it was. I was out like that. Yeah and when I woke up he had my glasses in his hand. Because I hear those are really expensive prescription. I'm sorry apologize to them instantly by getting back to the too many cards. Are you know like a heavyweight guy. Yeah I just there's there's something magical to me about watching heavyweights with and I realized that lightweights can knock each other out with one punch But I grew up liking boxing in the seventies Eighties so like Mike Tyson. We saw we saw the end of Mohammed Ali. We saw the beginning of Leon spanks. We saw the end of Leon spinks. Tyson yeah we saw some legit tremendous heavyweight that I mean I have A. I will show you when you leave a signed buster Douglas Glove. I'm a big buster. Douglas Ninety in Tokyo had a nice. You know never talks about him but he is he on and if you look at the story behind. I'm sure you know the story. Sorry mom died. He was having a hard time. Rankin wasn't servicing. Build a run like this whole bit was going out with him. He showed up and just like that fight was not physical. He beat Tyson. 'cause he wanted it'd be Tyson it was mental fortitude. He showed up and said I'm going to beat this guy no matter what happens. I'm GonNa beat this guy and he went in and did it and end of it and then that was basically under Tyson at that point when she realized is like everybody else. It's weird once you figure out how to beat the Yankees Yankees why find with bullies and this could go to hockey fights if you go oh to MMA. I I always wanted to see but there's more than the you'll see You know that when the bullies beaten once they're never the saying you you know like Bob Probert who was the king of he was Tyson of the NHL in the late eighties to mid nineties but one night and Saint Louis. Todd did you and knocked him out. He was never the same. Marta mcsorley. Yeah I mean He. He taught me how that guy in the head. He thought for sure he was getting away with whatever he wanted he he was the guy. He was the enforcer so he could get away with whatever he wanted and then he did something so agree. Gis We're going to get you out of the League. That's how bad the situation that you'd caused us. We Tom I forget who he did. Donald or share dom Tomahawk him in the head. And how I met them I was in Manhattan beach at sharpies. Barrios Harry IOS heroes and they both were sitting next to each other and lily walked in. It was like I don't really know what's going on. I can't figure this out because the uniforms but I know you guys someplace. Oh Hey sure. Hey I'm like oh hey. Aren't you out of the League. Because of this. I is whatever it just had to be in town. They had to be sitting next to each other. It's crazy crazy. Well I think the controversial thing with that outside of the stick in the head and goes to. I don't know if there's a code within a May fighters but like in hockey. There's the code. If you beat a guy badly you owe him a rematch. Yes and that was the situation that people kind of forget and I'm not saying what mcsorley day was right but You know shared beat them pretty badly earlier in the game in a straight up fight. Yeah and he did the He had this thing where when he would beat someone really bad he would wipe hands together like he was done with them right. Yeah and he went by the Bruins bench and did that. And that did not make the bruins happy so mcsorley wanted a rematch. In Bushehr would not give it to him the rest of the game. And that's why but go back to your point. Look what happened to the bully. He he he alison heat and he won't now you won't engage with him. He doesn't know what to do okay. I don't know what to do. I got. I got accelerate this because I don't know what to do so your point of wants to believe beat people kind of figure it out and that's Kinda what happened extraordinary once. They figured out he's got to push the buttons and then he's GonNa come back after Eh and similar where Tyson because You could see when no one had ever gotten up from a Tyson knockout and you could see in deservedly really so I mean what my God But when Buster Douglas got up barely some argue he didn't because long count supposedly You could tell tie you know. Supposedly there was a long but I've watched it several times like it seemed to be a close does count to ten but did the rest start to count late. It was only it was only one second of two seconds late. And so here's the deal with you. Have to think about referees. have one hundred per second to make a decision and what's to make that decision to live with it the rest of their lives. Well we at home at the replay. It we watch it make a decision talk amongst their peers. Figure it out and then spit back. What we think actually happened well? That guy has to have great understanding of what's happening at that point. That referee might have easily grab the count and heard five. I'm not I'm not saying I don't remember exactly where I live. And then wait a second and then went five. Oh I see what sure say see what I'm saying like so sometimes he's a human like a human but he's not a computer things get messed up. It wasn't so egregious. You're like okay. To fight needs to be overturned contest. They went reviewed it tasted peel. It like none of that works so even the commission's with no it's stop. It's it's enough. It's not it's not that bad but also to think about what happened if Tyson Komo and they call that in the in the overturn it now. At the end of the the next day you go to no contest even though Tyson loss because along county have a rematch. Do we still have the Tyson. Buster the story when that happened the second time we don't know we don't have that story anymore to talk about. Wow how good buster. Douglas did against all odds against everything going on his personal a win. It's a great story that's changed. Same thing with fury and wilder if if the referee Decided to go nope you're not you know I'm stopping the fight. Because the way he undertake when when testing undertaken in the twelfth row is GonNa stop the favorite there he goes but I got up I did other protocol he got up. He got up at ten or at nine got up. I told her watch me took checked his hands. He was totally fine. I looked in his eyes. I doubt despite go on. Look at the great we write things can change. He's very quickly by referee. or by bad refereeing and human error involved in top of it so yeah with that Buster Douglas Fight. Anything could have happened. They could have done it either. Way could have went either side but it doesn't does it really matter what matters is is that now we're talking in twenty twenty of a fight. That happened thirty years ago. Thirty years ago we're talking about. I mean I remember I was I. It is funny how something thirty years ago I can remember like it was two minutes ago I was living somewhere else watching in complete complete darkness in my underwear. I'm not trying to be creepy. I was just. I was single so beer in one hand pants. Drinking my life had a drink. That's that's another story Wa we'll get that in a minute never drug or drink. Even though people just assume I because the way I talk slow and calm -pletely high dropped dropped on your head. We as a kid. Why do you have a big head? I mean we are on the spectrum high end of the functioning spectrum lake which I would say I might be possibly on the spectrum because of how I was raised which was by two very bizarre parents But that's an that might be another podcast but I was. We're going to after dig interesting very interesting. I'm super interested Frank. I'm strange guy. I love it but I was in my underwear alone. Ah at the edge of my bed and I was crying because I was like. This is the black rocky guys can be marching on through to no record guy's going to beat this. He's he's he's the guy and we all got. I couldn't believe the next day. Oh like everyone was talking about conspiracies Tyson through it on purpose because he didn't want to break recommencing honors record Tyson dude on purpose because he felt bad because buses mom had passed away like it was like all these things but it was all based on Tyson throwing the fight not on buster being that good that he was able to beat him that night and that's years later not that not that time. 'cause you know years later I was like wow. That's kind of messed up disrespected us. There's so much that we believe there was no way. He could've beat Tyson even though he has two hands and and just like every other boxer and as a heavyweight and had fought and had won enough. I see the next in line for the title. We were like. There's no way it'd be Tyson ties. It's just that superior period it was Kinda like the way people thought about chocolate out before chuck upbeat and Ryan. They thought about Ortiz before he saw getting beat high thought about couture before he started getting beat if we thought about huge before they think about all these people the only anime Friday don't think about that way. GSP because he always retires fights about retirement and he comes back and was no doubt retires. That's his Mo now is that he's a guy you can't talk about like that because he never stays around long enough to get you always leads right after he kind of smart because Sir uh you know these two fights about Tyson and this is in a boxing podcast. But they're rarely talked about is the two fights. He had with Razor Ruddock. Doc Who Roddick was really the first guy. I thought to stand in front of Tyson and I'm going to take your best shot but I'm also going to give you a few of mine and he did and I thought that that really fucked with Tyson's Head of like people aren't afraid of me anymore So I think he'd been holyfield caught because he couldn't get holyfield he couldn't believe feel around he's going to do it in MMA parlance since. I'm a heavyweight guy You know When people weren't really afraid of him anymore I mean I'm still I'm sure they're still afraid? Traded him now. He's he's still dangerous. But you know when he got a little skinnier Yeah yeah got out got off stores. Why didn't want to say that because I don't want to get you in trouble? Nope well doesn't get me in trouble. I mean it's just. He got popped for humongous levels of disastrous. He got hit for seventeen one right. Seventy sorts of EPA testosterone shouldn't shouldn't be any more than four two one five one at match. She was seventeen so I I'm probably I'm fifty one I I. I know you're not a doctor you would. Would you guess on like four or five to one or maybe so one of the things you don't know as I do men's health Talks for this call universal. Men's clinic which is a hormone replacement plays format mattis routers function like all these things underneath men's Pacific health. This is what they handle. They educated kidding me. Showed me that I've seen guys that are twenty five twenty six years old just coming back from Afghanistan that have like one hundred five one hundred six to start your own free testosterone number in their system the lowest. You're supposed to be as three fifty. These guys are coming back. They're young. They should be like charred hundred two thousand no problem and they're coming in super-low. You can't look at anybody and go to. Sasha was hired to Saas. You can't tell I've listen guys. I Look I look at them like. You're a flat blubbering. Don't work out. Don't do anything piece of Shit and on Menagerie Levitas was eighteen hundred. What the Hell is going on like my levels are right now? I got tested just a couple weeks ago I met two fifty seven Because I came off a disastrous to you two months to see my level dropped down to fifty seven. I'm like so I'm like wow. This is incredible but when I was higher onto Sasha and I was actually actually fatter right so it all depends on you by type. It all depends on who you are all depends on on what you have going on. The assumption is that every athlete clete as long as he's not a retrained and eats correctly in rehydrate correctly is going to be in a position where they're they're going to have a high level disastrous so looking at you at fifty one. I have no idea. What your sleep patterns? Are you staying up all night. Getting up early getting enough sleep. Are you working out. Are you doing full body mechanics. Are you eating right. Are you drinking right lake. I drink an excess. I was not that case. Are you doing too many drugs. Obviously you're not that case so it's like you have to factor all these things the only way to knows you go out and get get blood work done the route but the check is the real check is does your work. Hey you wanna go upstairs and the nasty or do you want to go to bed. That's so works reasonable proficiency. Okay then we're good then you won't find that But like I think people forget ovary case like at one point he was my size when he fought Ladele. I think I wanNA say ninety three. Sorry I might be off on the year But I think he asked me. Madam Years I think you would probably you probably on the card. I think he was tried. Eh checked out not ninety three maybe thousand three but and then all of a sudden he comes back. A few years later Horsemeat just like I've never seen a body transformation that You know he was two sixty five completely ripped like no fat so this this is a studio. His brother his name Ballantyne down team. They both grew at the same time at the same same rate which I don't care for twins and your identical salon work that way. It doesn't it doesn't it doesn't work that way. That's the way genetics don't allow allow that to happen for you to be exactly the same weight gain exactly the same increase in speed exact same increase in power or period of time it. Just it doesn't happen like that even if you do the same workouts is because even if the twins and you are identical still still factors new DNA. There are separate from the other individuals stout as was the reason why we raise twins. They they have two different personalities. It's how it works right so my first tell tale was like okay. I saw it the both getting that big that fast strong okay but then there was no testing. It doesn't matter the fighting and pride it doesn't matter it's totally fine once everything became legal. And we bought. And we've always talked about it before the pride coming over to you have see see how come everybody failed. So I was sentenced to drug testing kind of change things but also to these guys are getting from pride or way past their primes. These guys all cro cop you know coca crop date eight or Vandeweghe fade or I'm trying to think also big names that came over the head Bob Sapp at us. I'm sorry I apologize to the fans out there. I forget who else was coming over but always guys came over on a contract and they they mark hunt Marquan Marquan and we see how that they've done not as well as it did when they're in private because you're also looking at prime coca prime like all of a sudden now. He's not in his prime anymore. Well of course they're gonNA do it was well against guys that are hungry and better and faster and younger and stronger like this is how it works now. So it's like part of it was tissues better part of it too was okay. Now we have drug testing and and let's be honest a lot of stuff looking for drug testing now for is over the counter stuff you can get in Brazil. It's over the counter in Canada. It's over the counter and Croatia. It's over the counter in Japan. It's a drug. You can buy totally normal so these guys are looking at now. You had to have an educational change like okay. I want to see and be. It'd be famous and be great and is drug testing. I've got to do the drug testing straight in normal but also got to find out what I can't have any more at my I normally would buy just over the counter go to go to the GNC Z.. In South Paulo and bite off the shelf. Well this is illegal. I can't have this. There's a long education with everything is well the I get. I'm not plugging this place Because they're Canadian It's it's right down the street. It's called body energy. It's just the vitamin store. You know I like to support them over say like a corporate giant like gene and I was buying some pre workout a a powder to take just caffeine and the guys like. You're not competing in anything. Are you like fifty one. I'm properly no you can still competing in amateur cycling. Yeah drug testing is a world. This has some weird ephedra or something daily while still take it but to have to please. I figure if it's the worst thing I'm taking The I'm okay with a little ephedrine the system. The best stack was aspen. Ephedrine a cup of coffee. That was the best stack. Would you do that before or fight or for training for training thing and I became a legally like okay and I can't do it. Got Back off so I come from. I come from wrestling so my thing. I was getting drug tested from the time I was sixteen until I retired from the sport I was getting drug tested all the time and because I would pass I really believe this could be. I could be full full of shit but I really believe because I fit the eye test of a guy that it should be on steroids but because I kept passing the tests that they're like let's just keep testing them because approves that hard work and dedication kind of gives you this. This is my own internal monologue harbor and dedication location proves that you can actually have the body of a guy steroids. Without having to steroids there was just testing to show. The everything's real and he's okay but the reality of it is that it is name. I'm just getting pulled and once I got done like somebody asked me. She's maybe year ago. Like what cost interview is like what would it cost you to come back and fight and like I have a number. I'm not worth that number to fight though but I I know what the number is when you come back to fight. But I'm not worth that number to the promotion. I'm not worth that number to. Anybody involves so. Why would they pay me that number? I was like I can't pass the test because like Bell for Henderson. We're on TRT loophole. Aw I I mean what did you feel about that because like has a fan it was awesome for me to see like Henderson. Forty six like shredded and like like in Belle for like I do. I was when he fought tank Abbott crisis guys like you I mean did you like to the I mean. Did you consider that cheating for those guys or no because so I wasn't entirety back down. I wasn't on understand it but I was like no. It's not cheating because it's not illegal for people that go back. After Jose can Saco from baseball let me go back after him. mm-hmm made no sense to me. He was already out of the sport and when he was doing it it was legal. They won't drug. Oh I injected this guy and I sold stuff that this Guy Blah Blah on whatever okay. It's a great story but why are we going after a guy because the rules have changed. It's the same thing and forgive me for getting all over the place. The same thing we're going to have to Kevin Hart for the Oscars for for for the homophobic homophobic. Josie did ten years. Like who yes. He made a mistake. Sure you've apologized shirt. But there's a different era. You can't come after me for something. That ten years ago was funny as hell that we all laughed at Donaldson now is culturally sensitive. You can't be mad at me for something. It's like saying you drove seventy miles an hour on a road that has fifty five ten years ago but the spirit of seventy now. So I'm totally fine. I drive seventy all all day long. No no but back Danny drove drove seventy miles an hour and it was only fifty five. So I'M GONNA give you speeding ticket. Well how does that equate to anything. That's just stupid. So when Henderson and Vandeweghe and be tour and all those guys. Ron Tear tea back then no not cheating completely legal when they shut the loophole down you saw and Henderson. We had to fight. Right and Winnipeg for some reason candidates the theme. Today when he had to fight in Winnipeg he had to come off because they had a loophole to where the pay commission. T's not allowed so he had to come off right before he got up there and he's like and then he fought went through the training. Camp is like okay. I'm off to. You'RE NOT GONNA be on it anymore. And then four months or five months later that they all commissioner again. We're all we're all closing the loop on T.. Knowing to do charity anymore but Tennyson already come off on his own because he had to fight the section thirty made it illegal so no not illegal. Now it's illegal you guys get caught on a okay but then also to Who was the female she just got? She's got caught again or a tainted supplement. And she's like I gotTa retired from the sport because now my band is for years. All right I mean looked at We're going to end the instagram live. Feed right now out for those of you. You're going to have to go to apple. podcasts listened to the rest. This is Emma may legend. Frank trigg like it's pretty exciting to have him on here so Support the episode. And we're GONNA look up. Who this girl is? I would guess it was fallon. Fox is transgendered. No she's out she's out Ali. He's out of the gain after SEM and Smith Theater. That was kind of end of it for her. Might be. I'M GONNA look it up. Jessore oh she spends a with an engine overhaul. I know that for sure but anyway so so she got hit because of a tainted supplement and she proved the first time China look as a settlement that was approved by you guys in this commission. You guys not this commission but this was Sada I forget which one is which 'cause I'm not party judge protocol is it. Alex Nicholson. I'm not trying to interrupt. Oh she got suspended for years. I'll figure it out. There might be destroyed. I'll find it anyway. So she she gets popped and she's like I got. I proved it was a chain of salt. Meant from something that you guys have on the list of someone someone some allowed to take and this has a ban some in it so you guys approved. I followed the direction. I followed the protocol. I went through the list. I took something off your list. I used it tonight telling me I'm a legal. You gotta use a little bit better about a little bit better about about how things are she takes. I WANNA say like a man but sticker suspension. Like a woman and walked off she comes back and she popped again for another supplement. That's on their list. That that she shown is on their less. She's allowed to take and forgive me. I could be slightly slightly wrong on this but if I'm wrong and then yellow yellow earl don't yell at me that that She now is getting a four year ban. And I'm like this makes no sense. It makes no oh sense that this is a gift of amount to take your then telling me that d supplements are okay for me to take I take some and then I get I get a pop hot and you test test and you find out that I'm doing something illegal. I prove is from this summit the levels in my system everything semi system shows from this supplement. That's not from something else you you guys get the empty cases from the same law and test it and say yes there. Is this this illegal substance in the summit. I do it independently at my own. Cost to another lab. They independently determined. Yes this illegal substance is inside this supplement. This is how you got from. This is lot numbers from this because all these are the lot number whereas made all that stuff. It's often same thing. Yes one hundred percent then you spend me for four years the hold on a second and I tell you told me I can take this. You told me that it was that you found out there was in this thing and then you're only that I did something wrong now. I didn't do it well. The Fallback Aubrac every athlete is responsible for every drug that goes everything that goes into their system. US But I'm taking it from you. Guys are the experts of this so fix it. There's a flaw in the system right now so when guys get popped half me like yeah. That's right let's let's make it better punching guys interface where Oberlin guy's face. Let's make it better. But part of me is like cast. A people people are doing. It don't offset people to follow the rules and doing the protocol in doing everything. upstanding as a as a real athlete and then cut them out of it. It makes no sense to me because I think it just says a fan I I kind of forget. Sometimes you know guys could die in. The Ring Octagon always call it a rang. You know hockey players You know fighting Dramatically it's basically eliminated from the game. Now Yeah but you know. It's better to think he's better or worse because I mean it gets. I feel bad because as a fan Dan. I really loved watching hockey and from the eighties too I would say two thousand three And but you know a lot of these guys in the last us five or six years you know probably six or seven of them killed themselves because sat. It had trauma you guys you know. When I started watching hockey I I would've been a big player? Six one two hundred. That was huge for hockey. Yeah now that's small like these guys are Steve McKenna. Kenneth six seven to fifty. and that's naked like gear on and you guys are pushing to sixty five. You know close to seventy this guy in the Boston Bruins Zidane Chara six nine to seventy like I guess naked you say. It's so with skates and and Probably Twenty to thirty pounds Gerry's near seven feet three hundred pounds. He got into a fight the other night and I I. It's hockey is boring to me now. Because it's just like a glorified scrimmage yeah and you know I field old somewhat the same way about Ima May And I feel guilty saying this because you know like when I don frye on and he's awesome and You know he had trouble getting up at from his. He was saying that he was sitting right here. And I you know I can help them up and I was like fuck fuck man. I got this guy's in this condition because a guy like me paid fifty dollars to you know. Watch him do that. Then Gary Goodridge and unlike I feel guilty to be honest for once I'm trying to be serious but like you know like you know McGregor Soroti. I'm Gal paying seventy dollars or whatever it is you know and But I liked it. You know anime in the wild days like when when I had to go to best buy before it was on pay per view you had to go to best buy two months after the fucking card was over and by the time. You're not a real fan. Dan Real fans used to go to blockbuster. Well I went to Hollywood video. That just call you that so we were talking about. This is a couple of days ago. Where how did I get out? You know without brain-damaged everybody else in my era everybody. Everybody is brain damage I don't want a lot you know and most of my losses weren't weren't Koa tk almost Milosevic submission of US going to lose and it was always at some kind of a choke got on board one time Because Connett but other than that that was that was kind of my wasn't head trauma. I didn't take a lot of head trauma. rustler's don't take a lot of head trauma because we're inside the entire time. It's hard to hit somebody who they are. But you do not hit a wrestler like a like a really good like a McGregor did against Chad Mendez Mendez. beat the crap on the first round Kinda got back in the second round Mendez fell apart because he had three training camp and then got lit up and fell apart and then got got. Tko right that's how it always happens. What else am I may how? How many real clean super tight knockouts see? I mean you rarely the aspirin one you know not many. I guess maybe a few in the heavyweight division just because those guys are so fucking pardon my language strong like I can't imagine being hit by him I think about how many fights the row where we're talking about it before we start the podcast. The sport now is almost over saturated we almost have too much content for MMA. That at this point is becoming so much but even still even on the smaller Oh cards even on the amateur cards California throws somewhere between I WANNA say between one hundred eighty and two hundred and twenty boxing gourmet events per year professional on top of that CAMMO throws probably another hundred to one hundred fifty of amateur remain on top of that. A lot of animated animated goes through California. I don't know what the split between I'm pro between versus boxing but there is a there is a a boxing. Every Friday night de la Hoya throws a golden glove aurea golden golden boy. Thank you sorry. Golden boy promotion a basketball every Friday night. Someplace in the state and its four fights and it's so it's eight guys as guys are trying to bring up and you go at least fights and they all go to the distance. You never seen knockout like you showed knockouts now become a lot more infrequent one because the scientists better around training the scientists better about how to recuperate like why. Why is a Evan working on their neck muscles? Because that's how you stop from getting knocked out. Why nobody worried about hydration nationwide cutting such a big deal now because that adds into if you dehydrated when you're in a fight I was thinking you get hit? I had sad dropped twenty pounds of water weight to make weight but only put fifteen back on again. I'm five pounds deficit when I start to fight comes second round. I'm probably seven or eight pounds deficit going to the second round with a nice clean shot. It's GonNa put me out because I don't have the liquid barrier between my skull and my brain and my brain bus up my skull knocks me out now with how way cutting to become a big issue the sciences this is better between Diet and exercise. Civically for athletes is better. WanNa start seeing a lot less knockouts rows missy guys. We will go longer and we're GONNA see guys and they do get knocked out are going to have a a lot longer time off before they able to come back again because we know it's that time off. Anybody talks about always got a glass Chin bossing all time question now. We can't recuperate recuperate. He had one bad knockout and he needed. It's concussion from it. He needed to take six months to eight months off from full-contact from shaking his ad for moving around much and he's a stop all that to get his brain. He'll what athlete in their right. MIND IS GONNA take that that eight months or nine months off to get their brain hill. We're not we'RE NOT GONNA do it at all. I WANNA go right back in the next week you can get punched in the face. I did it the same time I got a got. A concussion went back. Four fights in a row where they're concussion you like no wonder I got no wonder starch in one of those sites is because I'm not completely healed. We didn't know that back then. Now we know this guy needs time off town. Coach just smarter manages the smarter. The motors are smarter and now is list. There's a list. Oh Hey trey got knocked out in May actually want him to fight in July. Let's call him Noni pass protocol yet. He's not he's not able to fight yet again and California's Pasolini tests. I let's see. Pass the test you know. Now it's a whole different thing so it's gotten a lot better from that mindset. We're going to see a lot of knockouts brain damage anymore. I mean when I say a lot the the I mean the the volume of what we saw in the past can be a lot less. Are we still going to see them. Oh absolutely absolutely so you guys get a lot of them if you really listen and look at how they are really. TKO's guys are getting beat up so much that we're like not enough we stopped. We're stopping it. Even Boxing Guy Getting beat up bicycling stopped a lot quicker now a lot quicker because it is scary. Seen this guy getting brain damage and we are are two grown ass men grass women throwing punches and kicks at each other. We're trying to do damage. The person we we may not be the May not be an evil person. But we're trying to win this fight. We're I'm trying to pay for our training camp paper families right. Do these things right so with that. You gotta like okay. This person's GonNa hit this person's heart as possible and very quickly to finance aunts frequently spice go on and say okay guys getting too deep fight back and looking to stop it fightback fightback okay fights gone. I'm totally until I know you're totally fine. Totally fine next month when we fight again. Let's just move on. You know like in like I love that. You're a fighter. Now raph because it reminds me Paul Stewart who was a goon fighters don't like being called goons But he was probably a goon even he would say I was a gone and that and then he became a raft. And say it's it's the perfect you'd think. Wow that's the perfect Post retirement job. Because you're going to know what rules to break or you're GonNa know what rules are being broken. Okay you broke every one of them when you were playing. Is it similar for you rapping like you know what to look for because at one point you're the guy maybe You Might WanNa go out and get something to eat and come back and you'll have time to listen to later. I love. It is a long story. Let me tell you this right now. You're the perfect podcast guests and I don't say this to kiss draft but like you don't give one word answers like I've had some guests out you know like Don was the same way ahead. Tell us about your Gary Goodridge. I coulda left and ran a marathon and come back still be talking So this is having take as much time as you want so I was talking crap about how bad the the judge the referee was and I was like my friends are GonNa kill somebody to watch one of my friends die. It was getting that Dyer. John McCarthy overheard heard me talking about it he said Oh you think it's so easy to take my course Mike full I just stop fighting. I know all the rules and what I'm doing I'm GonNa take your course you stupid little command cores. I'm a blow right through this thing. I know everything there is no about fighting. There's nothing not one damn thing you can teach me in your course. Three course one of the most intensive courses I've ever taken besides me working on my captain's license right now for for charters are going to be a charter captain. I learned so much in that course and failed miserably. I mean it wasn't even close. I was on the radar guys past. There's only thirteen people my core class class. I think one or two people pass the first time I took it and everybody else failed. I was the bottom of the heat. I knew less than the guy that was just a fan. I literally had no idea I was talking about but I would thank someone who fought in pride back in. Let's just say the the renegade days that you would have that you would have passed easily because you saw. Aw probably a hundred times more than say what you know an amateur fighter who never made it and who's now wrath like. What did you miss everything? Thank you didn't know what the rules are. And this is a problem. It's very unique to anime. Most fighters coaches trainers. Don't know what the actual rules are. They don't actually know what the rule is and by commissioner slight differences within each commission. One Hand Down for a downed opponent to has down for down opponent. which way as how is it? Whatever Baba it changes per commission and that's fine little little minute? Rules is still five minute rounds. Three rounds or still five rounds. That's pretty much it. I go fishing but there's a lot of other little nuance rules. That people don't even know a lot of the commentators. Don't know what the actual rules are like. They don't really know what they're talking about when he's come through. I was like I couldn't believe what I didn't know about the sport that I compete in for fifteen years is that I actually didn't know what the hell the rules we're at halftime and what to look for as a referee what to look for as a judge to be able to judges fight on its actual merit of what. The fight is happening. Not being being boxing. Heavy not being submission. Heavy not being wrestling had three times so he must have won the fight. No you gotta look at the entire fight from different positions what is actually causing damage. What is actually happening in this? You have to know all these positions. I knew nothing I had to go back in a year later and take the course again and I barely passed the second time it was so I didn't actually pass the second time and John is the person who passes or fails John Lane his wife. Those they do everyday Jerry Jones partner they view look at everything they go all of it. I actually didn't pass a second time. How I passed? The second time was to go in and I had to take six weeks apprentice John once a week for two hours at a gym in Valencia. At a sit there and go through and do a privates with him how to how to judge at the end of six weeks I got to do. Three fights on a university of M. A.. Amateur Bout for Cam. Oh I left three house at the end of three bouts. He goes okay now. We've reffed three libraries the amateur level neither gone through all the protocol. You are now ready to say that you have passion and I got my got my check-marked I passed command course now. Now I've got to go do a hundred at the amateur level. One hundred hundred dollars at the amateur level one hundred nine hundred promotions because you might get three or four are sometimes five. Depending if you do Antonia McKee's event down in Metro you might get three or four. But if you do Jason Stewart's epic writing down in down in San Diego. He has like like twenty-five on his car. And you might get five or six. It just depends but you have to do one hundred bouts before you can apply for your card. That's the that's the role. That's the rule. If you've never left before he comes to Santa California you have to do one hundred amateur level bouts you can't start refereeing at the amateur level until you pass Herbie's he's a John McCarthy's course that's it period. That's just how California does it. That's the reason. Why California has the best judges because everybody had to go to this protocol coming through there's other fighters they're trying? It'd be referees and Judges Right now. Chris Leeann his past. He's been doing a very good job. Donna Campbell right now. Does it quite hundreds for can't be appropriate but he's also still fighting bare knuckle boxing. So it's a little weird so be competing and then try to. I know I said the same thing to why. Why are you still fighting? Stopped but he might. He might need the money. He's got a kid. You might need a you know. I mean he went through divorce lost Jim I am not too long ago so I'm sure he's trying to recoup some of that money back and I'm sure that bare knuckle boxes giving him that avenue to do it so good good for him. Every man has his own way of making money. Ray out Christina Santos's cyborgs boyfriend He he passed. He took the course twice as well. He failed the first time John had come back and take it a second time and it is very difficult to get started in the game so for anime. It seems like it makes sense for an expert to come in and start being a referee judge. It really doesn't because honestly most athletes you you think. Give me give me Tom Brady Tom Brady retires right now and becomes a referee right. which you wouldn't because doesn't make any sense and I'll get the reason why it doesn't make any sense now because he's not very good at it but I'll give you the reason why a moment Tom Brady becomes a referee free? He'll jump he's going to have no idea what looking at a difference. He's had no idea he's been a quarterback is entire life all he's worried about his passing interference and he barely early knows what the whole looks like in front of him because he's too busy looking downfield. So how is he going to be a good referee. Referees have to see everything we have to know everything. How are you going to be good referee? It makes no sense. Brady cannot be referee finances. He showed up at the field and made game day check. What the hell was it? A hundred and fifty thousand dollars twenty thousand dollars a game day check might be more than that so why I mean I have no idea what the hell numbers haven't already makes the Oakland A.'s. Five hundred probably is why is he gonNA show up to make AAC to grant and do a whole by an n get yelled at when he screws up and get booed when he makes a bad call and get ostracize on Instagram Graham on twitter on on for him Tom. He's calling on my space still so getting beat up on all these things. Why would you do it? It makes no sense so allow these fighters are come in my era. The guys in my era They can make the jump. The guys that fought because we were making that much money right so for us to come in for me to make so. My wife is a timekeeper. The State of California's pointers both boxing. MMA she makes on the big car she makes four hundred and forty dollars. Nobody recognizes for the whole car. Now Khokhar per fight the whole car. I mean he's different in boxing Boxing Jack Reese I think he got twenty five grand. I think maybe sometime wrong. No no for referee fury while they're fight Kenny bayless in the top. Two Best Boxing. In my opinion the top two best boxing referees in the entire the entire World Jack Racist california-based. I can you bail us as Nevada based on the fights and he may twenty five grand for for Mayweather McGregor heated at one fight that night. It's all he did Both those guys may two million he he may twenty five grand. It doesn't seem fair. I mean but look at it but you have to understand fair. Not that's what it is when I when I do a bell tower a UFC. Because I don't I'm not I'm not in the hierarchy Beltran. Her zog Greis those guys get the gate event comb event those guys get the title fights those guys who to make two grand. I think on the night for for other fights one payment. All you've gotTA fight it's on pay per view. They're going to get the most amount of money I'm might make twelve hundred and I got four or five five at night. Plus plus checks plus goes on with it like the financially. It doesn't make any sense. Oh Yeah you can be a pretty good living. If you do two fights to a weekend you only really work in six weeks six as a monk. That's really good. That's really good. Yeah that's great. How many fights on pay per view for the UFC? Because that's we paid the most pay for the year of C terrified interstate. You're working. I'm on license in two States California in Hawaii. That's it. So how much can you actually make you break it down like. Wow that guy for him the work you have to work every single weekend every single weekend garlic. Herb Dean has to make every single weekend to eke out a living the scratch out a living. There's no money in it so financially. Most cease-fires Congress never gonNA rough or judge. It makes no sense. You Know Chad Mendez. Riot favor you guys I think would make good wraps that understand that great knowledge that that out of the sport right now that that have the brain power behind him. I'm going to do it. I mean I mean five hundred thousand dollars. You're I favor I mean five thousand dollars my last fight. Why am I gonNA come in? And Wrath this ref force bites. Thanks for for five hundred dollars. Four hundred dollars. Sometimes we work a pro event in a made sold out not on TV. We we might make five hundred five hundred fifty bucks. It's the state we have to wrap the same every fights the same to us. It doesn't doesn't change not maybe not. So there's no finances so a lot of the referees and judges is that are for providers can make the jump because Spanish doesn't make any sense. Then how are you going to give up your weekends for a full year to ref every the amateur event that you possibly can in California I drove. I can't even tell you how much I drove. I probably put sixty thousand miles on my car and one year driving from Nevada due to wrath or access linen Nevada time the rough Nevada to dry the southern cal I would drive out Friday night to roughing southern California King of the cage type of the epic epic Metro Center like whatever it was sparse star like. Whatever popped up with turnaround right after drive back to Nevada would go to Vegas with Dan? Go to sleep and wake up. Go work out get a little lunch. Report for another event in Nevada worked at the whole night that Saturday night go to bed wake up the next morning to drive back to southern California to another event on Sunday in southern California to turn around and drive back Nevada. Go to sleep the next morning. Grab the kids. That was my schedule. It was it was crazy for full year. That's what I did. I drove everywhere to get these fights and I want to get these fights is when I get who can do that. Who could stop the regular daily life and mind you at the amateur level? You make one hundred dollars for the entire night. I make abouts. That's an entire night fights. Ten fights one fight three fights a Lotta Times amateur events you there from like three or four afternoon until midnight either all all day. It's a full day job to make one hundred dollars. Oh but you love it but you love is but financially. Why would I give it my entire weekend to make just one hundred dollars and had this pressure put on me the put this is to put this this? These these these amateur fighters are trying to make the pro leagues one loss from them is. They're just going to one of the shows. You have see your belt or or having to go to one of the minor leagues because has it got a loss of two losses like it's a big deal for them right. You screw up one time guys. Fight Man Dude. You're you've ruined his life. He ruined his income potential coming in the next couple of years. This is a big problem for a hundred dollars right. You know. It's really hard to to make this junk then to jump into judging referenced kind of fix that's right now. But judging is the biggest issue it goes back to my start. There's a real issue in it. There's a real problem with it. My saying was always. The judges. Don't have a lot to go to the judge because you never know what you're gonNA get Tena White is if I get pissed off like it's a see that's my that's my phone. Just listening looking at new all time. They're listening in all time. I didn't say Syria anytime. I didn't say Lexus Ain't time my phone picked up what the hell in frank just said a threesome with the Alexi Z.. Because judging does seem to be all over the board like and it's tough 'cause like I favor striking just because because I love box. I grew up the heavyweight boxers. You know it wasn't just Ali and frazier informant. It was like guys like Earnie. Shavers Shavers and Ken Norton and So like a guy like aspirin You know who's wrestler You know I might be AH. He's Kinda boring I in. He's clearly not. I'm not saying wrestling's boring but that's the problem. He seems boring because he's boring. Because somebody else told you who was boring and you just listened. Oh no I mean I love watching him fight because I appreciate someone who is so good at a particular area You know like Damian. Maya's another guy who who was infamously. He's boring because he would just he's so he's so buying. He made Thailand Woodley get yelled at because he had a boring fight against him. Like honestly how can tyrant beat Daymond. Maya the only way you can beat him keep on feet and punch him in the face. He goes on the ground game no matter how good is the wrestler. He's getting submitted. So it's five round boring fight in my is so controlling so good at what he does in so boring he makes other people look boring. Well it's like Increased certainly anything the thing but boring but you know he kinda gets that reputation of Jesse put you in that Baird grip and like He. He won't let go and and I don't mind that because because this is what's he supposed to let you go so you can hit them. You know you don't like how we Russell's to become a wrestler. I duNNo. Yeah I don't mind a born a quote unquote Boeing fighter. Although I love watching the guy like say Derek Lewis just stands in front and banks and Zyppah. You follow him on Instagram. He's very he's got the funniest shit out. Oh my gosh. That's a guy who I would. I guess you know in in your seaworld world. There's not very many openings for announcing but that's a color commentator like someone should hire that guy as soon as he's done well. The problem is is that that lobbyists now is trying to mainstream on regular FCC regulated TV. And he guy like Jerry. You can't trust the keep his mouth down just driving shit fuck bombs and it'd be saying God damn it the whole time. Help them run. The whole George Carlin's seven dirty words. I without a problem with that guys. He's kind of like Tony Romo and football. Although I mean Tony Romo clean cut. Yeah I wear sketchers Costa boy but he is I. He might be the greatest color commentator in football. Anyway that I've ever because I'm a huge football guy. Yeah he the way he breaks it down and it's like all right. They're going to run a trap here because this situation dictates Rogan Rogan made me want to watch. Because he's a high level practitioner himself. Yep So he knows what he's talking about `bout and sometimes well yeah Ghetto but it has a has a Leben has a non practitioner. It's like okay. He's GonNa put them in an ownership. Lada here because this okay and it makes it interesting for me You know someone with no anime Knowledge College. In terms of the technical aspects which is why probably gravitate towards a fight like bigfoot Silva and Marquan. Yeah yeah so seat to go back to welcome for a second. He knows about US making fun of him. Please get on Papa. Joseph remember he's the he is the he is the the Value the number the level. That everybody else accommodates is trying to get jobs level. Because one. He's very a quick witted right so he's very smart he he. He's very that's his comedy's comedy's very quick witted. So you kinda get like how he sees stuff is at a different angle. But then he's also like you said a high practitioner of taekwondo but also Jitsu so he understands Jitsu as well he knows the fight is going long before if I guess there I think the biggest problem he has sometimes now is the other color commentators because sometimes use a three man booth these. I don't like I can't stand the three man. Amblin drives me crazy but you know what am I. Your Guy was in the AFC hall of fame. I'm not but like I don't like I just think to voices in any sport or enough yeah. You don't really need that third person there unless you got some at super old and just like the lead commentator has been like the guy the voice of the of the of the Voice of of the promotion for so long. You don't WanNa let them go but you wanNA kinda gluttonous load and lent his voice up guy in by the part of the problem. Is that these third guys in the booth are jumping being the gun and where to go but Joe actually knows what if I was going to go. And he's not a guy's GonNa throw anybody else any of the bus. Oh I'm sorry that's not the right place we're actually going as he won't don't do that to his broadcast partners. So they say the fights going a different direction and he has to follow suit. He's Oh yeah okay because they jumped up on them and it's like if he just let him go on his own own he'll tell you the fighters going all the way through till yet they're upset about the step in and stop it as stepping into stop it like. He knows that much about the sport and Saturday against John Food. WHO's fine but I'd rather cruise or data coma or any owner? Paul Faldo who I think are great. They're they're amazing when they're on their own with just take people in the booth right when you get to that third person. My Gosh here. We go like now and I can keep them like okay. Let's find how many mistakes these guys make as they're talking because they're trying to outdo Joe and you're not gonNA you're not you're not I mean well maybe with the exception of a and cruise like you're not a joke could probably kick your ass And you're not going to be funny I wouldn't mind at booth of say Rogan Cormie or Rogan and crews and. It's nothing against John Antic back. Yeah but then you lose your play by play guy which is the problem because not only colors which is what the CIA believe. I don't know I'm just speculate. What they're trying to do with their booth is make it relatable able and put to to ex-fighter in there that that gives more more credibility to it and then the guy that actually brings all the credibility joe to drop out? Anik you all of a sudden you lose your play by play Klay gone becomes really awkward because no one you know how it works the play play guy now. I know you know but I'm sure the fans at home don't know how it works is the play by play guy tells you what just happened does a great one too. That was a great three. Oh look at that. Look at that exchanged. He tells you what just happened. The color guys tell you why it happened and why guests love. And there's nobody better than Joe this as anybody better than Joe at doing it puhl fellows kind of close. I liked pilot. I like I like Paul. Where he's going how he's doing? I like always increasing house becoming better or at it. He's to me in my in my personal opinion. He's the best of all the ex fighters or fighters that are jumped into it. He's actually better than even me. I would love to say that I'm and I'm right behind Joe but it's not true. Follows ahead of me. He's much better at it but when they get together I don't know about much. Better get some confusion thank you. I appreciate that confusion. What's going on inside their booths? Because I'm like what's happening like Jesus when when it's three of them when it's two of them when it's just an and one of the other guys is great. But when his three little law sometimes well I don't even like doing podcasts. Casts with more than two people like this is a great back and forth like I. You know I'm genuinely. I just want to set you up for long answer. But there's a third person here like you know I would feel okay. I want to be quiet because I want them to talk. Or you know at odd I think that's your setup is that you always have to people on unless podcast is set up. It's always a to to you like She was who's the guy gets the titty lock of the week. Thrasher thrasher no Bob. Memory Mentoring says name. It's possible I don't know them all. Okay so he he has a three man booth. He's got some girl in there and one of his buddies and they bring guests the time and then went to three of them just three hundred talking. It works really well. Because that's how the PODCAST was set up. We've been there somebody else. They have doubt they were like okay. You series of questions. Here's here's your question. Don't interfere with this. You know so it's not like I steal one of yours and then you're kinda stuck later on and then but they do you do kind of notice that like one or two of them to bail l. out kind of bail out in the interview they just don't ask anything. Just don't talk the entire time. They were guys being interviewed like what happened to other voice. Where is that other ways? Now you got me like I'm I'm not an Alpha male in that regard like I'm like well I want this person to get their lines and sell just be quiet and listen and like But that doesn't make for great TV when when who or where were you born and raised. You know it's very interesting. A- Belair layer like really Bella Bella principal layer were okay Families rich well. Here's where they servants. Well it's an belair in the sixties his was Kinda like Culver City just undeveloped not a lot going on the hillside with a few view homes and then there was the Bel Air Fire and my dad had bought a home and his our home was the only house to survive the bel fire fire. Oh Oh okay. So it was literally like being in on a tech stock when it blows up and then in the seventies You know O Oj. Live there Kareem. James Caan. I mean every celebrity lived in Belair and then it was we were like the addams family like we weren't poor hore but we were upper middle class. Yeah Okay but upper middle class in bellairs poor. Yeah you know our next door neighbor stallone I is a a WHO's who of of seventies and eighties celebrities So in NYC. He bought a membership at the country club. Which today I believe is at least three hundred thousand dollars? Wow just to join her down. That's the that's that's your front money before. We have to pay the monthly dues. Oh Oh the monthly dues are probably. I don't know I'll guess you know A fifteen hundred. And that's not counting your food and Shit. Yeah so you know you have to be a celebrity of note so it's Kinda like yacht club okay but back. When my dad bought the membership it was a a twenty two hundred dollars to buy the membership? And so I was. That's why I'm so you array you wit went into hung out at the Belair L.. Air Belair Con. I played golf there every day. I would see now younger people who might fan based you'd think being fifty one of my fanbase will be older but I actually in college kids for whatever reason love me Because they're not doing anything but they're not gonna get these references by like Mac Davis who was an incredibly credibly famous country singer. Yeah and probably my favorite sports movie of all time North Dallas forty. He was there so you had people like that and But but it was interesting I would say probably a racist environment just because there were no blacks allowed. Wh Whoa what you make you would say races around. It was a racist environment. I'd so mind blowing to me that I think there was one black member out at the time. Seven or eight hundred Vice President Coca Cola. He was a lawyer. Yeah sadly we gotta let him and they wouldn't let Michael Jordan join Yeah Yeah as a kid. I didn't really you know you're young. You don't know I it was like Oh that's racist but then I think the next day someone said he was so pissy joined like he love another other country clubs. Tisby like fuck you guys So I had a weird childhood. Not Weird Well California. That's kind of normal. All Tori spelling. Grew up her family was re you know. Hundreds of millions of dollars spelling family. Aaron spelling runs everything right. My Dad was like the Rodney dangerfield character in caddyshack love. It love like he was a diabetic so in his mind we talk about weird the nutritional things in his mind he had eat chocolate bars. Constantly to level is sugar out so he would have chocolate bars in his golf bag. He'd have chocolate cars in the glove compartment depart chocolate bars in his glove compartment. He would they would obviously melts because some of them had been there awhile and he would just wipe his hands on a shirt so he would show Tobel our country club. Where you have heads of Howard Keck the oil magnet heads of state almost? Yeah and my dad would look like he wiped his ass with his because is he a chocolate. All over you know. What does your dad do for a living? Well he see this why I knew this would be a good podcast. Cast you've turned the tables. It's totally interested in what you got going on. This is school referee in judging. Let's talk about this. It's inappropriate frank. he was macgyver He he was very hard guy to like. He was on the cover of life magazine for killing Awale Killer Whale Ale with a slick with Harpoon. Yeah but I mean a whale okay like like a big big humpback a big. Yeah I'll show you the picture after Has a child and we had an basically an Olympic sized pool in our yard. The whale's Jawbones were the length of the pool. They were the seat so when we have pool parties or gas they would sit. It was like the flintstones while so it just goes to show how big the whale. Gm I mean. The whale's Jawbones were probably the length at this room for that will allow and And then his grandfather his dad was In the depression era would drive to buy oil refineries and he noticed that with throw away their waste and he would go up to these oil refineries and goes. Can I buy your waist. And and they looked at him like he was crazy. You can have it. And he developed this Process the turn their waste in the graphite so probably this table right here with this graphite it some long winded family trae. My grandfather was responsible for this rabbi on the table So he took over that company and He was a scratch Golfer. Self taught scratch Golfer but he had the worst. Swing swing. You've ever seen in your life. Barclays looked like Oj if you've ever seen OJ swing a golf club. It looked but he was like he created. Aided this swaying that scratch golf. He was a very interesting guys. A whole point of that long winded answer. He what did he do. He did a little bit of everything. Yup Hence the macgyver reference. Yeah he was just good at everything. He was a brilliant businessman until one day he invested most of his money in an oil. Oh project in the Amazon. That went up to Yeah but if it were to hit the we I wouldn't be talking right now. We we would it just been a nicer place. My mom was a hillbilly from. Carter's rural Georgia. So it was. It's a strange upbringing. Not Strange well she was kind of a hillbilly to talk about. You know his grandpa his father thinking about taking old refinery waste and turn it into graphite. That's that's like a hillbilly mentality. It's like I gotta figure out what to do with this free shit how I'm GonNa make make a profit of it that's a that's a real capitalism. That's a real thought process but there's also strange upbringing because my dad's sisters Ethel Kennedy. Who married Bobby Kennedy? The second Kennedy brother. Yeah so then you had the Kennedy Lineage you're married into the Kennedy family by marriage yeah so But even that was a strange like You know like I have two brothers. Two sisters were very close but we never talk in. Most people will be like the new not very close make sense but yeah what in my particular case. My hours just strange is at the comedy store last night till two in the morning get home Mkx from the show because it went well so I from the show. Sure I'd never done it. Probably with what I walked around and smell bobby did get got a buzz. California now doesn't matter yeah. It's all legal but you cannot smoke in these still going to get some point so you know I woke up at eleven. I nervous about you coming over just because a AH the way I do my podcast is. I don't plan a question. I had no idea what I was GONNA ask you. When I hit record I like the nervous percentage Gotcha Okay and here? We are in our in and I could go on for another hour. I got no problem. I got nothing to do today. but I'm done so nervous about you coming over in like okay. This is GONNA be 'cause I've had one interview that maybe didn't go the best I won't mention their name but they were famous in the eighties and I imagine you probably got I wish Jessica Rabbit well. I would have But I yeah. I'm sure we both have her. I'm telling you on this particular. Gas was famous for one or two things and that was pretty much it so Just kind of giving it away but She didn't WanNa talk about them anymore. Which is Kinda get any interview? I do I'm not putting myself. I self on your or hers level they always want to ask me about roast battle which saw what got me a lot of things but it's there's only so many ways that I can talk about it without I repeat myself as I'm sure you get sick to a degree of hey tells us about that Matt Hughes fight the fights. Anybody wants to talk about that. And that's the the thing you can do like really. Do I have to cover this people. People are wear like this big fight this weekend. Going out with McGregor and Sarojini. We're GONNA WATCH IT WE'RE GONNA watch. I'm watching my house. Oh you're not gonna go anywhere you know you have an apartment house my wife and I let me sit on the couch watching the fight. Why why don't you go awesome? What do you want to be a party now hosting a party? Not No nope not why not. Why don't you like going out because everyone's to talk to me during the fights it because since The bites like if you came over to my house to watch it I I do fuck. I'm going to ask him about that whole but you know he's here to just as a friend and wants wants to watch TV. I just want to be left alone. And I'm also the guy like Hey What time what time is it part of your place? Well pay comes on at seven so I thought everybody come around on five o'clock okay. I'M NOT GONNA make it. Why not I fights it three thirty? I'll be in front of my TV watching the first right. I'm not leaving my TV to the last over. I'm not missing if you have all the fights on the very first one on on past and I'll show up otherwise don't bother me. I gotta see every single fight why we get tickets. I'm one of the first eight people inside Eddie arena. Oh yeah something goes gets going I WANNA see it. We'll see them all every single fight like every single still still this day like we'll we'll go on the twenty twenty fifth. I had to form. I'm one of the the CYBORG fight it is cyber and bud. I'm I'm have to be there my report. Time is at three o'clock doc. I fights at four thirty if I'm not working the fight. Are we watching. Every single fight in the fights them working. I was watching the watching it as as referee Naza Fan. I will watch every single flight and complain about being there all day. Be there all night. I don't care prelims Bo. Slim's I love all the fights when I'm watching at home. I watch every single fight I I plan my day around. I going off at three thirty supposed to sail on Saturday. I might if you can't have me back because my yacht club is on the corner from my from my house. If you can't ahead me back to the dock guarantee me back the DOC by three fifteen that I can just offload a run in my car and get home by three thirty. I can't do it do we. GotTa do woodworking spinnakers. It gets a hold trainings together again. Hey man like Pfizer on. That's that's how it works in my house. I can't stand going places because everybody wants to talk to you about fights which is why I don't plan questions 'cause like this Particular gas like You know it was an eighties She wasn't a musician but Video of really giving might as well just surname at this point. She's like. Hey I you know that's thirty years ago man. I don't WanNa talk about it anymore. But it's like well what would you. There's a lot more to talk about. But like that's reference point like that's why would he knows I taught about to get people up to speed. who talking to you? We can talk about your we. We haven't even touched on your fights but we talk about your fights your Raffin you're acting But you know so that that's why I don't like to shove ask you about the huge fights but I also try and ask you questions that you haven't been asked before so you don't get I don't want you to get boards. God God I. I'll talk about kissing him that you know you know you tell that story probably a thousand times like ask you a question right now cause. I don't believe I've ever I heard this talked about. I'm GONNA give you a scenario involves raffin like because I don't think fans one thing I do like about intimate is it's it's kind had a closed. You don't know a lot about what happens behind the curtain. So let's say there's a fight Let's say in Ghana against Derrick Lewis. You're the wrath in it. Why would I be? Rafael is so boring but I well. Let's go old school scolds. Let's go because I'm a like You don't understand. I watched the first. You say you know I'm a cabbage fan cabinet striking that I really. He's back I don't like I cry either. Well I like I like do I want. I'll probably by the pay per view. Or whatever I cried. Bigfoot Silva was on top of fate or just do I really very sensitive cry a lot. Well I mean England when Tyson got beat by Douglas crying when I only cried during Tyson Douglas because I had one hundred bucks on Tyson but and you had fifty dollars in your bank account. I am sensitive because you develop a I cried when probably the first athlete I ever followed was a horse called L.. Seattle slew very e was the first triple crown winner. Like I said I recognize the name. Yeah he's very a and one of the more famous horses the last fifty years. I guess But he lost and After he won the triple crown I think it was at Santa Anita and he lost pretty badly eater chews. Cte With fighters and hockey players. I I know what's going on at CNN to get off topic. I know I love it. I Have Friends of mine that are horse breeders. And they're like none of them. We don't know what's going on. We don't know why it's the only it's has such cute horse die. I can't believe it's not a bigger story. Credible like what happened on there and and the trainers trainers jockeys don't understand it. They don't understand what's happening. Nobody can get a grasp on. Why is it happening here? And not say why isn't having Kentucky someplace. Why isn't happening in one the other why is it always here? What's the problem is going on here? I don't know I don't think anyone I saw one guy did a report on the The dirt the track the actual track. He's like well when it rains. the I'm trying to think of the The shoes they're the the CELICA on in the dirt washes away so the The surface is much much harder than anywhere else in like. That's not gonNA kill forty fucking four and a horse. A Horse can be amazed at what a horse can do especially coming to stunts. And I'm not a horse guy by any means the only I stunt. You're not GONNA be like. Hey can you know I cannot ride a horse. I can rattlers casually but I can't do stunts up a horse. You want that. You gotTA call the cowboys. I'm not one of the cowboys that what I'm not but these these guys make these horses in front rolls. They can fly sideways into all sorts of stuff. You'd be amazed horse can do at full speed and it's incredible what these animals can do who at full speed. Why dying at San Because you're falling over at full speed wise that why is that making them die? That and one of the worst. I forgive. Forgive me I forget I forget which one it was a when it was but he finished the race was walking and then just collapsed. So it's not it's not the it's not the track. There's something something else going on over there. I mean I you know I don't WanNa be like I'm not like Eddie Bravo and in the conspiracy theories. Well no I I I love that stuff. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong like But it's almost at that point where it's like. They're either shooting them up with stuff in their bodies are breaking down or Off You know there's some rogue Because there is a tremendous amount of money Involved in horseracing of ninety dollars per day. you you know I mean. My Dad was a pretty prolific. Goes back to the macgyver that he was a very prolific horse. Gambler like He. And my mom Her family owned the largest thoroughbred Training facility in the South Which is why I fell in love with horses? So much There was a white horse. I'm GonNa send you the link to this horse jet white horse and it was really the two athletes I followed I at that more than Oj. Kareem Gretzky or Seattle slew and there was a white horse named vigers. And it's thing was he would start out dead last and I mean by. He was like the White Guy in the hundred yard dash in the Olympics while he beat somebody but he's pretty far pack and he would just sprint an all. He not always win but he usually would win. It was just amazing watching this beautiful body of like just pure muscle thousands of pounds and I cried when he he started losing. I get. You're going to invest in the stuff I do. Does that does that. Emotion help your comedy or comedy. Well depends what I'm talking talking about. Okay the reason why I'm asking. I've always wanted to be an like a Sitcom I've always wanted to like one of the Sitcom sure and I just stand up for a little bit. I worked with animal. Hunter miserably like miserably bombed like not one not even gig not one in a tent set. Nothing not one fucking thing anos I an okay. Well a bomb. So it doesn't really matter. Just move on to the next one and it was like. I'm just not good at this timing thing and Atta made a comment to me was like oh you didn't you didn't dig into your motion. Just Kinda told the story you really dig into your emotion to get into to get into the story which is going to make people laugh would have gotten emotion but never other comics tummy. We're like not an argument emotion out of it right bits and do these things and he daesh Appel talks about a right. The one I write all right the ending and erected joke after. I've got the punchline. That's that's genius to me because I can't do it. Well there are several kinds of comedy like Like someone like you. I would gear into like my advice to you like I know. You don't WanNa be like a fulltime stand up but like do it if I if I get a laugh I would do what Jake. The snake. The wrestler I would recommend you do what he does Because I opened for him and I've seen thousands of shows the thousands is probably thousands of comics and his show. He did that. I open for him. It was one of the more amazing shows I've ever seen. He wasn't necessarily surly doing jokes. He was just telling stories from his days on the road with now. This is pro wrestling in the eighties. Nuts I mean he's got stories for day but I'm sure you I I mean you were in pride like I can only imagine there's really that's the thing no man is really not that many stories like it's very it's it's there's a few. Yeah but they're like doc you know. Obviously you're married like like Joan was on my story but I mean I'm not even saying sexual stories but like Jake. The snake would tell these Just twenty minutes stories about doing the road with the Rick Rude who was like one of my favorites And how is wife was divorced and and and the the the new husband drives by them on the freeway and Jake the snake. Hey Rick I think that's your car and he looks in speed up to him and it was the new boyfriend driving. It was just like so I like it when he told the story. That was so funny and I would like I would would've said forget the jokes to tell a story about maybe trading. Maybe a particular fried grabs you in the balls or whatever Because you have something that ninety nine point nine percent of comics don't have and that's an experienced at something that none of us did. Oh yeah go so. I think the crowd would like dig. That man it's com- comedy is tough. It is super fucking tough. I think it's the toughest business in the the world outside of. Maybe being a fighter. 'cause you know if you're on a ban I always say this shitty band you can turn around and blame the drummer. This guy socks. Yeah Bass player. Can't keep up with the guitar player like Chevy Comic Look in blame. The curtain caressing is. That's why I'm amazed to. Yeah that's boxing is like a team. Is there for all the riders home and get this thing put together a bounce off a couple of the people got some good ideas came out there and and pitched in it sucked. It's my fault we've could if you were this. Maybe not the greatest example. But let's say Well let's take the Aspirin Maskhadov by You know you might say that. Aspirin deny the best just Strategy to start that fight off just basically charge and put his head down he could if now I don't think he did but he's either with. My coach told me to do that. Well my Jitsu trainer told me to do well as what I was GONNA come out with a flying knee so just fuck it charged him and he could could blame someone else. Like if I bombed tonight at the comedy store I can't blame anyone. Anybody this podcast you can blame me. Well it's probably because of me but you know there are some guests who it wasn't the grace interview 'cause like I have one word answers. Yeah you know I've had musicians on But also to isn't it. Isn't it crowd. Don't you have to know your crowd and comedy like if you're if you're doing young kid jokes. Older crowd is not going to work. Okay yeah well I like. If you do like say a Jeffrey Jeffrey Epstein show which a lot of comics are doing. Just because it's like it's hot it's hot it's it's not obviously funny what was going on but You know there could. Yeah you have to know the crowd like there could be someone in the Ari. WHO's the victim of unfortunate abuse of some capacity? They're not gonNA like to joke okay You know I used to joke When I would have jokey bombed which has happened once or twice a night I would be like Oh you think that jokes too soon while I was doing nine. Eleven jokes before the second plane hit the tower always got the crowd. It always gotta laugh like one hundred percent of the time until one night guy comes up to me after the show says. Hey Earl you really funny but my brother died in tower two. You're just you say oh. Sorry jokes for you. Not that not that tower so you know but if you do like Republican jokes in Orange County which is. It's an all republican but it's it's probably really leans You you're going to struggle No the crowd But you know some crowd like Joey Dee as He's he's one of these an amazing person like yeah. That's someone who I don't know how. MMA May world is but like comedies filled with bullshitters users. I wish I'd just like yeah I can imagine but Joey's the real deal. How do you think Joe Joe Rogan so comfortable? Same Shit like I love Joe Joey and Joe because they call you out on the bullshit that oh how scared were you for College Mencia. When when he still rogan stuff? Well I'll give you this. He stayed up there like You know Joe but once again joe is the only one who everyone Numancia stole jokes anybody. Everybody did I mean it was. I don't I it'd be like in the anime world You know I mentioned over him. You know I would assume most people in the in the anime community okay. You don't go from two. Oh five two to sixty five you know with no body fat. Like what's going on here. Josie only one called now. Carlos had a policy with them that night. That's something that's not really talked about. He had like A. I don't WanNa say gang but like four or five of his home is and Jake I think joe is I mean. Of course. Joe Is protected at the comedy store. Just because he's Joe Joe is up there pretty much alone and You know it's but I don't think Mencia care like noise. He's getting paid. He is now he's getting paid now and it kind of kind of set the beginning of the end for him showing off the air and then everything else happened after that. He's what's he doing now. I haven't heard anything. I mean. He still does comedy. You know. That's the weird thing comedy is. There's a misconception of if you you and it's probably a degree like bigfoot Silva still fights but you never really hear about it you know I. It's funny I found that out in acting so a friend of mine. Sean Patrick Flannery. He's Boondock Saints Opposite Norman and he trained with me at my gym down. Go when we had it back in you know in the in the late nineties early two two thousand and he just for a little bit. He has his own Jitsu Academy and I worked as a stuntman. I worked on a on a horror film with him and I was a Shaun interview memory furniture. Whatever I'll do remember whatever? Rabbi Tom Eddie. My double-leg we caught up. Whatever as I've seen forever like what are you? What are you doing is I'm still acting so I do? I haven't really done anything. Big since boondock saints too. So what's doing or powder pilots after that. He's he's like a work all the time. I in constantly working as an actor after I was straight. DVD straight streaming. Netflix rate. The he's like he's like I'm a really good living. Some place in in southern California. Have a huge ranch down down in Houston have two schools to Jitsu schools at that. Pay Do just enough to pay the bills. It'll work out at it because that's kind of what's going on. He goes that but I work all the time. I was like the first time I was like just. Because you don't see somebody doesn't mean they're not working. Oh Yeah I mean One of my favorite probably my favorite boxer and once again I I cried when Larry Holmes was just fucking destroying the sky. Tex Cobb who you'll after that fight he got more born to act in any way but he still fought but no he. He would do these kickball. He was like a world class kickboxing but he would fighting like the country club in Reseda. which was a very famous Music Club but they would also have like at the time it kickboxing events CARE ATOP is a guy who do you know we had that one movie chairman of the Board which you know probably didn't do very well Any kind of in the public eye disappeared. He Plays Vegas biggest every weekend makes millions. He has a here's a residency at the luck sir. You still have three doors for me when I was in Vegas I seem all time talking Takayoshi stories saying the guy that got big all of a sudden that pool. I mean what is what you get. I don't WanNa get sued here but I we're not necessarily talking about carrot top but when a let's sit this grocery trig views used about the Sarah minor minor alone and nobody else maybe say it nor are they responsible about to say that. I was on steroids. Okay I saw him in. He'd legitimately we grew twenty five pounds in a week and still has no legs. It was all shoulders and arms or like holy crap. This guy is swollen. Like what is that like like growth hormone or is it no. I mean it could be anything because member in that. So and are part of Agassi's up towards Summerlin. I don't know if he still lives there now from years since then. But he's live up near but also to Jay Cutler was and all the bodybuilders were up to some inside because this is where everybody trained out of. If you I want to be good. As a bodybuilder lived in Vegas at the time Jay Cutler was the guy chasing so everybody would follow wherever he was training it would follow. Everyone always tremendous amazingly huge six. Three three hundred pounds shredded big ASS bodybuilders. Girls were six two six one two twenty five to thirty five shredded. We're going doing doing pilates. Like what are you doing. Plots because Jay Cutler said it's great for your ABS Long. Lean lean out these ads ads ads for j hard for him to come in do applaud. His I was always bottles. Goes doing plot plotting classes. You're like what the hell is that. Going against. When during the corners like fresh bodybuilding? That's what they're doing. Everybody followed suit so up in that area it could have been and anything. I have no idea what he was on my guess. My uneducated unsolicited advice. Probably Hugo and probably decker wynstrol thrown him. That's is probably what he was doing a doing a full stack eight weeks on and doing six or eight weeks. Often they come back. And that's just kind of. Seems like what he was doing because he was getting jacked and shredded every single time. I see he'd be drafting shredded cheese. Like what the hell. Why can I get on that cycle while because I'm getting drug tested? Well that's another thing. I don't get drug tested but I feel guilty. Recent not many comics workout. There's I would say me I trying to say what's his name Rogan Lewis Black as a workout. Yes instruction trump. I would care top I would say CHAPELLE works out. You could tell. He's Pretty Jack for calm. Now I'm saying for commack Mike. Yeah but that's you talking about bodybuilding. I'm such a fan of the fucking eighties. Like I remember. Just being obsessed with Tom platz Who was the guy with the biggest legs of all time like they were just And he had a big upper body but like his life is the opposite. The character that's why he couldn't win my legs misreporting. It was everybody all the time. Yeah the big ones you like and inspiring out years. Later that Schwarzenegger had implants lance put his cavs because he couldn't get captured coming right and then when he found out as a kid in the eighties. You found a kidney eighty eight that Hogan was doing steroids member that we can blow in your mind. What do you need to do? is He's taking his vitamins and plan his prayers and he's my brother like what's happening like dude. This is. My favorite guy was the ultimate warrior like he was like the poster boy for two hundred and eighty five pounds fucking square inch of fat on every day every time every time on. TV just early in rainy. What the Hell is going on? I get sad with pro wrestling guy and I know you had had You know experience with TNA on impact natural impact on October now. Did you find it because is there are some anime Guys I mean obviously WAS PROB is probably the most famous example but tank Abbott. I know when to density W can share maximum pro wrestling right now. These oh still actually worked WanNa work on impact that work a gimmick with him and Moose us were trained musette ready for this fight against candidate. Belinda full progressing matching. And whatever happened. The Gimmick is and and Ken was like what are you doing. He's in Kenley Shredded Ken. Ken is in the best best shape of his life. especially if he's ever been in better shape when he was doing drugs and they'll tell you I was. You Know Shit Steroids and did a bunch on drugs and drinking alcohol and like just ruined my life and I when I was fighting those and then I got married got kids and now he's very much straight lay straight line no drugs no alcohol and works out all the time and he is shredded. I saw him with his shirt. I'm like Whoa like you're in better shape. Now they were fighting against. You gotta be in shape because no matter what you think. This stuff hurts at some point point you get hurt. You're gonNA miss a Rinpoche. You're GonNa miss the Ring Pat and hit the post to get your ice great down supposed to be fake but all of a sudden you face put on the ring rope you get dragged down it Guy Mrs Misses a drop kick misses a child. You know you'll get hurt so you gotta be in shape to not get hurt and my dude. Look you are incredible. Something better shape now than when I was doing drugs. autozone better well. I mean I I've always laugh at people who say it's fake. I mean it may be scripted show but you know you look at like You know staying my favorite pro wrestler and you know Gosh it you be real estate Steve. Well I cried. I heard that story. No limits thing thing I was TNA and you met sting yeah. I'm Steve for Steve for a long time before. So this guy's GonNa Laugh My Nativity so I was NTN A in the locker room with with With Kurt Angle. Who I was minimum? It was hit the Gimmick. Was He'd go beat up. Aj off camera behind the scenes. Whatever they get mad and he he see me loan stuff from the trunk of the car? See Let me get ready to work out from behind cup and beat me up and hit me and so I was always taking the beating that that Kurt was supposed to get whatever that was a gimmick but so I see Stephen and we had talked before her independence. Here separately you know about real estate. And he made some real estate investments. And that's what he was doing with this money. And he would you know flipping houses. You can fix them up and keep them. I'm and run out and then he would rent them for more than the mortgage payment and this is back when I don't understand anything about real estate. So he was like give me real good education. Now listen he's sitting locker room in Orlando Getting Ready for a taping for TNA and he's like McKay see we go. Hey what about what I've been and I come in. He's put his makeup on no fucking clue he was staying. Had No idea you can shit in the locker room completely. Lost my shit. Total fan boy out kind of percents. Holy Fuck your stink. I couldn't fucking believe leave it. That he was staying. I had no could not put the two together at no idea. No clue so again like I thought you knew who do you again. I had no fucking idea that you wish I had no clue with dude. That's funny as Shit. I thought that's why you're talking to me. Your fighter and our PA- wrestlers on MAGNA had no idea no clue I mean when he went to w. w. wood which was a a big fucking deal because he was the only guy and you know who didn't go. He's I'm reborn Christian or your storylines on from anymore. Yeah Yeah you know Semi life anymore and then they just in his first match fucking buried him. Yeah triple H and unforgiving. WWE's unforgiving they don't give a shit well it it Kinda gets me into like. Maybe we'll say how possibly certain organizations might be that in the world but like to me. It's it's like the you know the skies wrestling beyond a legend. I don't know what the next thing is. Yeah we'll see what what who the bigger wrestlers. I was an sting Hogan might be considered bigger. You might consider Andre. The giant early flair obviously is the biggest says flare is the biggest star. caressing has ever had he by far and away question. Buddy iron sheik and Serge's slapper. He killed all those guys thing was way better gimmick than. It's still today people's trying to win. Extent I think is his problem was he never went to the. WWe In his physical prime like there were so many the matches like the undertaker him wanted to spend crazy You know so by the time you went to wwe and he's certainly not like ancient. He's fifty four for button wrestling. That's fucking four hundred years old and then they just buried the guy and to your point. Yeah there are some organizations like at the. US's number one at that Berry you sign up for the UFC and not do not so. At first I thought they were just being mean they WANNA get rid of everybody kind of like just prove the biggest show in town. No that's Joe Silva. He's not retired as as a matchmaker. He's since retired. He made a Chitwan of money for the FCC and they pay them out when the buyout and then he's gone he's retired smart good could for him he set it up. He tells you he would sign you. You can throw the wolves. There is no easy match. FC Not one person you come in twenty thirty now look at the shorter Torres. Jose Torres from from Chicago. He comes in. He's he's like his amateur record was like twenty one twenty two and then when he was five dollars a pro and in a smaller ladies and comes in a UFC and loses in goes Goes two and three what happened. No easy fights. That's the way that place is set up. That's the way that promotion up there fights. Nobody gets it tomato Ken. Nobody gets easy fight. Everybody gets thrown to the wolves but then when they say that they have the best fighters there's a little bit too that clean because all their fighters have been put the fire every single fight. There hasn't been like a boxing set of a guy who talked about early daylight though these fights zip these guys are trying to build up trying to records up trying to get him going on Friday night like he's trying to get these guy set up so that later you can go yet guys twelve searching or no. He's got you know whatever six six knockouts to start putting this guy to work you know. He's got he's got a reputation now and I'm amazed don't do that. Everyone gets thrown to the wolves every fight. You take another may be one of the world's the Sita's a really good job of telling you that when you walk in the door you WANNA sign with US tough fight right off the bat you know. WHO's no way class? You know who's who have signed who you when you come in one hundred percent you don't of the world's we WanNa Masih you could rise the top of it. The other promotions. Don't tell you that but every promotions like we got to put you to the top we got to put you in the game for signing you if we resting dollars in you investing marketing marketing money. And you want to spend our time on you. You Better Pan out you gotta make us money to make us money. You GotTa win fights if you can't be this guy out. This is how it goes. Well has a fan. I do kind and I liked what they did with listener. Aren't you on Mr Pro Wrestler. You don't want to be in our Playpen he tarangire. I fight like like if he's Harry's your worst fight a your car that you've been through the ring because he was pretty good like when he thought he was still still rate talent of his prime but still it. All right. We're GONNA get Frank Mir twice you're GONNA get lost the first time but let me get has a raft. It's like And I want to get back to my wild scenario. Yes all right you know at some point you have to leave Like in that first last tair ever well might have sit there and kick out A lesser was Probably on his way to beating Lena and then there's a few heads to the back of the head and they they re. I think it was a Mazda. God He might have been. My shooter was They he stopped the fight and then they restarted. And then that's when Miriam in the toehold I think Niba A. D. O. D.. Hold yet both. No you're right correct Like A has a wrath. Would you have stopped that. I know you probably haven't seen the fight in a minute but like do you like there was so much marketing behind that fight with Mir nine. This is where I think the of see him as kind of like comedy where like they want someone to win. They want them to win Less than that probably would have been a good luck for Mr. WW come in being the ex champ. They you start to fight Mir does what he does like. Would you stop the fight. No do you take the wrath was under pressure of Jesus stopped us. That was a hit to the back of the head so I can you say this about Steve. He did he really get a bad rap. Really did try to get better at refereeing and then got got pulled from roughing. He came back and reinvent himself. Offers a judge because he really wanted to be around the sport. It wasn't a guy that was just doing it for the glory doing it to be on. TV He really wanted he really loved enemy. Really thought there's a position for him so he's like look you guys are GonNa let me Judge uh-huh yes gonNa let me wrap. I'm going to become a judge GONNA learn to be become a judge and do these things and make things work for whatever reason. I'm not really sure was it was was it was it the. UFC and Dana saying want. This guy wasn't he just really sucked. I don't know because I don't work in Nevada as referee judge. So I don't really know Whoa what fights. He was one and what happened to him but then when that when that was over when judging was over I went to a fight Nevada. He's a timekeeper. I'll make Steve humbling thing. It is to come in as one of the wraps that they use every single time they were fighting Nevada to being the guy that you get ostracized out that you get removed and Luger roughing license. That's a come back in and get a judging license to move from that now been kicked out twice with from from the commission in the sport for you to come back to be a timekeeper. Thank you a lower. But it's the third position right. That is super humbling. And he does it with a smile on his face and doesn't care because he's in their steve really cares about anime. He really wants to be in this part of the sport. Do I agree with the decision to stop step down as a as a referee absolutely I do. He was making mistakes. He could've correct them. He could've went and took a course went through Jani or her course and learn how to be better referee did it. It just didn't happen from at that point during that fight right. I don't remember it clearly in my head but I will tell you this it was Maserati. I'm looking okay. So it's intent the back of the head. We're going to watch this for those of you at home I I'm showing up Frank The fight less Nur's it is pretty much winning the fight. And then let's let's Mir roll up on him and get that new bar that's very android there the top now right before this there was a few. I don't want to say light shots. There's nothing like that especially especially from listener kind of like a fifty fifty. I like heads to the back of the head. Like do you think he was under under tremendous pressure of. I don't stop this Fi. Do so so who who hit. Who in the back of Listener Mir in the back of that was while he was hitting him in the the face? And then there's like maybe a couple in the back of the head and then he'd go back to the face and like okay so here becomes the issue so I'm sorry because we did. He stood back up again soon. Back up again underneath them up. And that's what's so. My Assumption is guiding the protocol I'd added like I said I don't know what happened. Don't don't blow me up. Don't yell at me. Don't start calling me names and bullshit. There are trolls out. Every time I start talking about another referee or another fire is lit up by everybody. I'm talking about trolls. Promotions heads. The promotions will call me. You can't say that you can't get lit up. I always the people I percents stuff like. I said we started. So what my sumptious says. Is They went. Why am I gonNA head stopping him to the back of the head? And then he saw a second or third shot by for the warning and went. Okay Stop Time separate back of the head. What's the intent? Is the way you intentionally trying to him. In the back of the head was uh-huh Mir moving his hat so in our pre fight that we talk about we go into the prefight. Here's the rules. Here's what I'm looking for as you referee tonight so I'm looking for one of the things I say days. Look inside. You haven't under Hook on the far side you're inside Mount Your Punch the crap out of them the turns his head and you hit him in the back of the head. I'm going to warn a new for hitting him in the back of the head. But that's a Mulligan that's on him. He caused that to happen. He turned his head. But now you know he's GonNa turn as we throw a punch I know he's in. He's in attorneys turnaround. We throws a punch which now tells me you have to keep illegal if you hit him in the head again. I'M GONNA stop. I'm a call time. I'm a stand up and make you lose the position. which is what happened? And that's how that's how it should go. I've warned you of giving you the soft money back a washes position. Now giving you the finger wag the Mama Finger Wag. Hey why so back of the head you hear US yell at on Okay Okay Stop Time. Let's get up and change his position. The penalty is the separate. You from the position if I think you purposely held us facing position and welcome in the back of the head. I'm taking a point if you being agreed about how you hit this guy in the back of the head. I'm taking two points. You are intended to hit this guy the back of the head and you doing it with severe intentioned and you're being egregious I'm taking two points that's how it has to work that's how it goes Mazza Guide and take appoint them up and said look. This is a position that he was supposed to head. You gotTA stand him up. It doesn't matter so the cool thing is is that you can be under pressure from the promotion. Most people don't know how this works. You can be under pressure from promotion that a particular threat or win. We don't work promotion. We work for the commission. Now it gets convoluted when like in in in whatever they go someplace Brazil. It has a commission right. I'm thinking about my buddy that's A. That's a judge down there Brazil has commissioned. Don't think they don't have a commission. They have a commission the seat goes on and there's no commission in Brazil. They bring Marc Ratner in to help. Set it up. And they and they bring their own inspectors. They bring in their own judges. They know they get lined up with the referees while bother allowing lined up you technically work for the commission that's doesn't exist which is the commission so then technically you work for the UFC but regardless of where you are what you do. You don't really work for the Motion Ocean you work for the commission but the but the promotion pays your fee so they have to give a check to the commission to pay you at the end of the night so you still working for the promotion. It's a really weird kind of situation. In California. The promoter an appeal work for work for the promotion cannot are not supposed to speak to me about something. They don't feel like his right. The elitist factor or the executive officer. If he's if he's present during the event they go talk to him and relayed. Hey you screwed up on this you fix this in California when you walk out of we walk out of the ring or the cage we get out. We walked down the next referee. Coming will let you know. Hey rush into this better villa. AWW and so like when I walk when when when Belcher walks out he merely looks at me. Hey did I do. Okay Yeah great at Matt. I feel like I felt like I was. I was one step behind. I stopped due to his no way Jason Hers who did ask her Mazda as well he is still I try to. I try to ask him. Matt Doughty howdy fight. I was like wow. That's that's another fight. So when he he basically the only way he could have been there faster is if he really went. Are you ready to fight for. Are you ready to fight. Fight that's fights over. That's the only way he could have been there faster. He was in perfect position but he is still eats up today. That Masdar was able to get one extra hidden after you knock him out. That's still eats them up. And that's the reason. Why hers is legit only one of the best referees in the entire world because he has that kind dedication those guys is who are obviously my superiors roughing when they come in and they come out they still look to me as a peer? They'll look to me as an as an underlying. Hey what do you think and we. We talk to each other about what happened. What went on so we know we walk out of that case for the first part of the night that we have to rough that we still have three tonight that we know that we're doing okay? We're on we're on track. You know I've pendants. I've been in events where a reference come in a very high big named high profile referee has come in out of the fight in but like I'm not feeling tonight when you sit down. Can you guys go ahead and cover the rest of my fights and switch in one of the guys that might bell who refs and judges switch him out having come in a rough one. He's gotta stuff. I'll go sit down and judge. I'm not feeling it tonight. I don't WanNa make a mistake. Not WanNa ruin. Somebody's career ruin. Somebody's life a ruin. Somebody's health so let me get out of this and this is what we state of California. I can't speak to every but for every other state I can tell you in California. This is what we do we watch out for each other and we take we screw up. We met hey we screwed up. God forbid any fosters there who's the executive officer for California and you screw up. He's GonNa tell you when you walk out of the cage. He's intelligent motivate. We know that you screwed up and they tell everybody else that we're GONNA be talking about that particular instance in in the post fight Meeting afterwards the fights are over and done. I'm going home getting their drinks. The refs the judges the Tunky inspectors all have to go in the back and have a post fate meeting and talk about what happened. What went on and if you WANNA screw something up you're GonNa get brought brought to task in front of everybody when you screw up so it makes it super easy like Oh this is great? Okay it makes. It makes it super easy. Everybody knows what the mistake is. Everybody understands how you felt about the mistake. Every understands how to fix the mistake and you are now educated needed and what you need to do to fix that mistake. You Lilly ref the next night and have that exact same scenario happened and he will do it better because of the way. Any foster has set up the protocols for this particular piggly thing for in in California which he got he just got recognized as the best commission for boxing remaining in the entire country because of the way he says these things up so we go with a guy like like the he might be pressure from him back. Then we want we want a lizard to win. We don't want to win. It doesn't matter. I don't work for you. You're not my boss US right now. Who is my boss? Delete Inspector and the executive officer of the of the commission now as some commissions some notions whether it be k- to the Cusco brothers others or golden boy or or. UFC or ballatore doesn't matter some promotions. Have that Kinda pull where they can. Kind of control the commission as well even notice a real illegitimate legal commission. They still have that kind of power because they bring us so much money when Dana White Center while ago when she comes in. It's a ten dollar boosts the economy every time they come in for a fight. Don't you want ten million dollars to your economy. Of course you do so you you're going to cater to them. You gotta listen to them but you also have to be able to stand up and be. Hey look rough made a good call that a good thing. This is the the reason why I talk to them. And sometimes the Zeta officers just aren't strong enough to do that. And so they kind of kind of pushed over when something happens by one of the promoters and then the promoters. I just have to then kind of the wraps in the next time that promotion comes back. The state that particular raft doesn't get used and the promotion has full rights to not use a referee for it. They can actually say. I don't WanNA use that referee. He screwed up toys before we mess up. What does I don't WanNA use them? Take them off the rest and at and that's totally possible to me. I was assigned to U. OF C.. Like maybe you've seen one nine nine you'll see two hundred something like that. Maybe not two hundred big. That was a big one. Whatever was something I got assigned to it and like an hour and fifteen minutes later? I'm calling the executive officer officer after I got the assignment. Tobacco got this great great assignment. As I'm looking at my APP tells me an assignment off. Hey what happened. I do something wrong. No no pushy. The young. That's just what it is. Okay that's it. That's just how it goes and go I have I have fighters don't want me to. Their fights just grudges from the past. Whatever better? Whatever reasons they don't they don't like how how I read one of their fights? They'll like how I rough one of their friends fights. They feel like that. Fridays are super. Should we stations the super. You're superstars. They tell their up but their superstitions. Okay should have a podcast. Why would interview fighters before fights healings on it and they were like Oh you interviewed me and last time I interviewed me like a CPA do agree with me really? The last time that he did an interview with me. He lost next week. This is not. He will not superstitious interview them. That it's a problem. I have fighters like no you raft. Tell me honestly thereby fighters were very honest with each other. We try to hire. You don't like somebody. Are you telling you to like him. You don't go O'hare nice to see when you walk away like that motherfucker a piece. They don't do that. We did it right to your face so come in Miami roughing. Oh is is is an issue when my buddy he lost and this is how he lost. I'm like how it is. Okay hold on let me go. Let me go talk to lead inspector. Let me see we can make a change because your company being Europe. Hold on what you look. Let's go see leave spectre can we make a change because you want me to Russia's fight because this this leaders Spector who is my boss on that night. We'll go. nope yours referee. He's got deal with it or they'll go. Yeah you know what we're GONNA make a change. Can swap you in belt transplant. These to fight for no big deal. And that's how it's very simple as fighters have the right right to choose to pick. A different referee comes in promoters. Have the right to pick different referees. Don't like the rest when they show up in this state is completely. It's completely honest and you can say. Hey you are ready for the big time and I'm roughing Beltran I'm roughing. UFC in these events. I am there. I am sitting there in the eye on on TV. I'm doing these events they can come up to you and say hey look Due to the rotation you should have this title fight. You should have the CYBORG Bud. Talbert Fidel to do the way the rotation she works. You're not ready yet. So do is going to give you the swing belt. So it's that's the main event. There's a co main event. TRICIA called swing by which the fight that may have made pay view if it wasn't running over but may not think about anymore. There's no fight that kind of gets held out it. Do we're GonNa put you on that fight. Okay that's decision. You guys are outside my box ax looking into the box. You see my my level you see how good I am. You understand my passion for the sport you understand how referee Ym. And you know that. I'm not ready for that. Fight then I you have to trust you to know that I'm not ready for don't make don't get your ego and away don't get upset. Don't get mad. Just move on okay up that despite this word is and tell you like they let you know hey rotation you should have despite despite. You're not ready yet. Okay good and you never know what he'd been reading. It's not like hey timothy be ready for refrigerator reading. Give me ready when you're ready okay. I'm down here. But here's the thing about him. The May in boxing that price that you get paid changes significantly. I go from making three thousand dollars a night to making twenty five thousand dollars in but it's it's a big significant change in May I'm GonNa make a might make one thousand nine hundred or two thousand if I do the title fight. I'm EK seventeen hundred and fifteen hundred if I don't it doesn't doesn't matter. It's not that big. It's a couple hundred bucks who cares. It doesn't matter right so it's not that big of a deal so no one gets to ego in a way we don't get charged up is a big deal. I gotta I gotTa hadn't hadn't who fucking cares still. What do you know what you're wrapping this Saturday? I won't know until I show up. They will they will release the main event. Nicole made event which my suction option is going to be belchamber men event and hers. We'll get Komeito event. That's the assumption. But I also don't know who also is rafting that night I know Blake Rice's flying in from Carolina Carolina who does a lot of work for us here and he's a senior official to me as well so I'm fourth on the poll. I we'll have a we'll have a TV five hundred seventeen because there's fights on TV. Which one I don't know the first one the third one it will be one and it won't be the good because those will go to the guys with more senior? I'm not I'm just not there. That's just how it works at. That is really the progression grushin going back to our originally about fighters and make good judges and good referees now is financial now is the time but then once you get the Parang she got one hundred amateur bouts. What's in they've given to your pro license here? Here's an interesting story. Pardon after for comedy show though Oh I love it so well did we. Are we on time pin shooting sued. We've got every now and then I like to wear at the two hour. Mark Geddes is easy. Like I can no no. I don't want you to do. I can do podcasts. All along I have no problem. uh-huh yeah I do. This has been. I haven't been told that since I was six but like the only reason I even before you get to your story the only reason I referenced. The Leisure Mir air-fight Is 'cause I'm trying to get the fans to realize the pressure restaurants Kahsmir had I got the feeling he maybe burn bridges with the U. of let's see with the capacity. Yeah and now. He's a Bell Tower. And it's it's a little weird and then listener was like It kind of They wanted him to win in my opinion just like the fight. This Saturday with Sironi McGregor I to me and my opinions are of course. The moneymaker but like to me they're throwing Surani to the wolves like this guy's a fucking soldier no but that's the thing that's thrown as not being thrown to the wolves. Is this a great fight this match make wise this great fight but like but also to of Surani wins. What's going to happen that's my money rematch? So means more money for everybody involved. If it's tough like like I just don't like this guy has been a loyal company Dude. I'm sure it could have gone to Bella. L. A. Towards some point or you know I'm old school I'll say strikeforce. Oh yeah they had the Maybe the grace announcing team ever Gus Johnson College Football Guy Frank Shamrock with the brace do that was awesome like I honestly like. When that whole mayhem Miller Diaz brothers thing abby Johnson's this is like gentlemen we're on TV? I Love Shit like that but like at some point. Somebody say shutters Mike as a fan of sororities like this is bullshit bullshit and I know he's making money like a you know he strikes me as the type of he still fights for the love of the game. Oh yeah sure if I could make hundreds of thousands or whatever he's getting great but like they clearly want McGregor to win so they can possibly build up a Kabri matchup I am I wrong. No no you're right. You're right but the fights go all the way the fight falls. The price could be used to be as real as I guess. That's what it used to be on their on their campus. This is legit. It's going to happen. It's going all the way to fight is gonNA fall with Balladur. We'll okay sits here with the not with them but like it's working like I would guess it Mr Coker to win it'd be because if she loses it say. Oh we're just like when we spend all this money on some is about to leave when she lost a Nunez his money on her to fight to be this great fighter noon as it's the same thing and every promotion you've got gotcha favorites you children. It's what it is it doesn't matter it's what it is but it doesn't really matter they're still going to go to. Your parents are still going to die view if they have to. But there's still a favorite favorite but sometimes I don't do well. It's just how it is. Sometimes the ferris a drug addict prison entire life. That's just how it works but has a raff now like let's just say European Saronic. McGregor you go into that fight. You have an inkling in clean. Maybe that the promotion might be rooting for McGregor. Show you have an inkling but you just don't care but to you. Does that affect the pressure. Like let's let's say Sarony who's not necessarily numbers. Ko Power but like he's still capable of let's say he's got McGregor on the ground he's just killing them. Do you start to think. Jesus I wonder if I stop this no. I don't speak if myself right. I don't I don't know what anybody else thinks. I know that for me. I do not think that I do not pick that pressure. I don't care about what they got to say. I don't care who they want to win. I don't care about ain't stuff what I care about is further safety job. I'm not in there to fight in their to stop you from doing fouls referees job isn't they they don't especially the NFL because the playoffs coming up here pretty soon. The Rep the refs in the line judges for NFL NFL going to say fight NFL match catch game. They don't stand there and go penalty. For throwing thirty touchdown pass nose clean. There was good. Why by stop it the only time they blow the whistle or the flag is when something is wrong? They're there for fighter safety helmet-to-helmet holding things do you damage cut blocking blocking the back like all these things. They're they're it's it's it's player safety. That's what the Russian Jersey therefore players say yes empire strikes and all that stuff. Whatever Boban shirt but it's also player safety see something illegal going on out? There was a bad example. Because things happen baseball it's illegal is usually caught months later like with Houston and the red SOx getting caught for months later they find out later. But they're there for fighters safety my job. As far as safety if I'm refereeing SIRONI money and McGregor and Macgregor's taking a pounding and I have verbiage. There's verbiage that you have to say And we say this back to our prefabs as in the preflight So you're looking forward. If if you hear me say move and you show me move. He just show me still want to be in this fight. Show me want to be in this fight. You may say something like that. Give me some kind of movement. You don't need to give me thumbs up you look. You're okay keep defending. I know what the defense looks like. I know what the movement looks like. But you gotTa Move Right tells me that your head may not be working with your hands anymore. We've got to think about stopping this fight. If you hear me say I'm looking to stop. Despite you gotTa Move Right now. I am walking into. Stop the fight so you gotta give me a big motion to show. Tell me your head and your hands are still coherent otherwise to me. You're you're you're taking enough damage where I can stop this. The only time I get into a problem is when I step in and I don't say anything but I had to stop the fight because a bunch of already come and that happened in the Bell Tower fight I fought in Hawaii. Big News report on it. It kind of went it went viral a little bit it because during the fight the guy got knocked out clean. Act Out right so I step in to fight off. I literally although the little guys so I although the other his opponent off and he flies halfway across the rain because he whatever hundred twenty five pounders I knew amount the guy. That's that's been knocked out and I had my neon but I'm not honest above him to keep from sitting because he just a huge head trauma elbow to the head against caged on China. Hold him down I hated okay. Let let DOT com. What are you talking about? He's trying to reach. Grab the CAJA pulling stuff up. I'm good what are you doing to fight what happened. What's going to make hold on fights over you got knocked out? I needed to take a look at you. The doctor will be here in a second. Take a look at. You gotta comes over and go. Hey still trying to sit up you got got got got walkaway. Whatever Blah Blah hands raised by goes over a lot of my friends had some food next day? Ed I get a message message from him. I went back and looked at the fight. Dave stopping the fight. Not only did you save me. In that fight you have lengthened my career because you know let me take more damage. Thank you so much I read my wife was like you've gotTa reposted. It was a private. I don't WanNA riposte. I WANNA just want to keep it to myself. But it's very should I know it's the one time a reference getting impreza wrestling. We get praised going to let the other s out there that they they can read this and understand that these fighters are thinking about them even though they've got the note. It'll help other referees. I I posted it kind of went. Viral got picked up by everybody and it went on his thing. But it's to the point of. I'm only in there for fighter safety. I don't care how to fight is going. I don't care what's happening to fight. I don't care who wins or loses. I'm on both guys. We had a fight later on. Both guys will go on and be able to continue and they were able to do this because I'm able to McGregor's taking the kicking I give 'em the warning show me that you're able to fight. Show me you want to be in this fight. I'm looking to stop the fight. He gives you no motion stopping the fight. I don't care who they want to win. It doesn't matter what matters to me as he's spiders are able to go home. Have a course get cut you know. Of course they get beat up if they don't tap on of course they're going to bring their although they don't tap on on a camera on a plot of course they're going to get broken. It's the way it is but it's not gonNA kill him right. It's nasty looks weird on TV. Looks discussing makes you one of them a little bit. But they're not going to die from it. Then go right. In the back they had doctors ringside taking care of the transport at the hospital. They'll get x rays. Do the surgery right away. It'll be fine. It's not that big. It's not really really honestly. It's not that big of a deal. I wanted to be able to continue on with their careers. If you let a guy a bunch of had damaged you let it go take a bunch of beating guy get beat up all the time you get thrown to the wolves get you know get hit a bunch of damage on his feet. Never Fall Down like like Ray Mercer vs Tommy Gun. He kept rate kept smacking. He'd hit him in. The left and Tom would fall to the right. He'd be almost out of the ground he hit him with a right right. Sent a backup again. He follow lefty. He hit that guy he had. Tommy probably fourteen or fifteen times and the REF couldn't stop it because back. Then you gotta wait till the guy hit the chemistry I come now. Boxing's chain getting away with off right away like the guys taking too much damage. He wouldn't fall out. Tommy's legs wouldn't let them fall down so as a result Ray Mercer beat the limit piss autumn. There's nothing you do to stop to stop it. Fighter safeties change it's a ball especially MMA. It's evolved now at Macgregor's taking a beating or cerrone is taking a beating doesn't matter you jump in you. Stop the fight. The one thing we have to have the skin because you are GONNA get booed you're GonNa get yelled at you. Didn't get mother fucked on the Internet. You think it yell at all time and you gotTa have skin so when I first started roughing like. Hey are you okay with this because I had a couple of booze rights I have messed up fights but I've not messed up the decision of the fight. I've caused mistakes to happen in a fight but nothing because the wrong person to win the right person always want no matter what I did okay so I've been very blasted been very lucky in that mindset but you still get booed and when you got it's it sounds weird but you're a small hall in his Fa- you from stand up comedy. You got fifty people bring you. It's way lower than fifteen thousand people during you in a bigger arena or should a little small room. Like Wow Malik really screwed up so I walked out. Who runs cameras? Like hey you okay I told you you're getting booed like you okay with this your cable this. Jt Ever See me. Fighting was yeah. Wash your face and I ever been before. Ever he's like. Oh no you got booty entire time but yeah I played. He'll the entire time I fought because heels. How you get paid aide? I played the hill. Boone doesn't bother me I could give two shits. It doesn't bother me I want. I don't care it doesn't affect me. Why does it affect me because I? It's a gimmick. I got booty entire time anyway and because I had to take John Course twice pass it and I know how hard it is to be roughly the judge. Now that I'm doing it. I realized that ninety five percent of the people boom. You have have no idea what just happened. They have not even watching watching the fight. They have no idea. They're getting a beer. They weren't paying attention. If you look around at the crowd like next time you gotta live fight. Look them out of the crowd at a bigger not in a little small shows not the ones in Burbank. The ones down in San Diego but the big shows like the ones in a bigger and I get the forum or staples or at Anaheim honest center. You'll get one of those fights you look look around your realizing you just look at one section you realize like legit fifty percent of the people in Washington fight there on the phone talking to screw around the here. Oh hell bud a big sheep jump start. They do exactly whatever. The crowd is. Oh I was going to happen and then look up they see the replay. Oh that was great. That was great. Yeah you're right you're right great but there there. You know what I'm saying so it's like most people don't even pay the fight to me when you bring me do you really honestly even now. What the hell just happened even have a clue what just happened like? Oh whatever boo boo they see the replay guy got a straight nut shot. Straight nut shot wasn't even trying to hit in the leg straightness shots here at the center. I'm suddenly like Oh yeah good job. Good job the two questions to wrap this up. No five t well the tape burn out. So let's say Aref in Guy Who's known as a dirty fighter I know was an honorable fighter in terms of dirty fighters. We do. We do have them Well I WANNA go to one particular guy I might be fucking up as I Paul Hartness Reuss is it. He was the guy with the leg locks he would hold onto the leg lodge. Oh Yeah Bruce Maher Paul Hart Parr so say you're epping has a kind of leads into my second question. Do you go into his locker room before the fight and go. Hey Hey did not tonight like when you know. He's probably going to be dirty so I don't say much when I when I referee Are Are you ready. Are you ready fight. But I'm talking about before the fight. No no this is this is. I'm backstage now okay. This is my pre fry understand. Dan I don't say much when we fight. If you hear me say I'm looking stopped the fight you hear me say a show me want to be in here. Here's the things we talked about him to that point. If if you hear me say stop I need you to stop. especially if you have a submission on I need you to stop at that point. I had determined that you have done so oh good at this fight that you're is now defenseless and I am now there to defend him. I will do whatever I have to do to get you off. If you hold onto the submission like Paul Harrison against this jake shields kept that come around too long then I am going to gouge you bite you punching them out do whatever I have to to save his shoulder to save his knee. Save his nut. I am the guys and he mortified is now. I've seen my fights and you know how violent I can be so you understand. It's not going to bode well for you. I will do what I need to to get you off. Offer him and then doing fine a suspended by the commission and more than likely because you had this conversation. We'll have legal problems as well. But what do you mean legal problems because I want you to do this if you do it your opponent. I'm GonNa tell him when I go to the corner. Your opponent has has complete rights to see you civilly for fucking them up if you fuck them up one hundred percent. Yeah because I warned you not to do this thing if you do this thing. Now we're GONNA heat. Where in a heated problem and we have fighters are like that and we use Paul Harris's the example? We have no he he did that to jake shields and he also Jon Fitch showers say he He caused John had to have surgery out it Ten months. He's at ten months. Because you have surgery and there was another fight I might be wrong in the organization. I want to say world series But he he did the same thing. And it's like Jesus this is. This is knowing knowing jitsu places like coming in like a competition jujitsu competitor coming coming in like Jay's electro hurt you but is he like at some point. He's he's dirty he's he's dirty so he's just like Oh what are you talking about like it's you know I gotta go to the brakes. That's how it was taught. Well guess what this is. Sport streetfight streetfight going breaks. There's a sport if it breaks because he didn't tap it and yell out screaming we stop the fight. Okay breaks but if he says stopped and you gotTA stop. What is your problem? He just he just will not stop so he's dangerous he's the him himself he's also dangerous opponents but see any any realized that I'm fucking up my career by like Sonata. Because he kept doing it kept noon it three times after once you learn at least three. Yeah you know what I'm saying like one time get caught okay. That's stopped doing to stop having the cage. Stop Game No not stop. You've figured out like stop doing it. Pick pick picking up a range. You keep doing it okay can are we got a problem. Isn't issue. Joan John Jones Spin accused in the past the fingers. You know not accuse we've seen Komo knuckle deep guys eyeball. We have John Jones rule. That's how the row you come out when we in backstage. Hey when you come out you cannot have your fingers thing is extended towards your opponent's face. I don't care extended towards lags crotch or away from him above him around him once your fingers extended towards his face and he'd be an fest or to the ceiling that is offensive and defensive. So remember if you keep your fingers to the ceiling and a guy charges you and you try to take a back step automatically human natural ability the way that our body mechanics work that fingers drop down to his is if he runs into your fingers he caused himself to run into your fingers. It is on you. I'm taking a point. Wh what you mean. It's on him. I told you fist or fingers the ceiling. Your fingers are now straight out. That's how he ran into him. Run into them going straight out. You poked him in the eye on you. I'm telling you I make it a festive time. Super Easy it's not that difficult that is legitimate and the John Jones role. That's how John McCarthy came over that specifically to counter jump and people in the eye Altan yeah and John Asks for him not when John or Jones asked for McCarthy not to be as rough a couple of times when he was when he was reverend for him and he's like a day. It's totally fine. John was like doc toy fine. He doesn't want him to rescue them. It's up to the commission. The commission is like yeah. We kind of we Kinda want McCarthy on the on the John Jones right and so do it anyway. Now to bigger refs FIZZ. Like you know. I'm trying to think of some of the bigger fs when McCarthy was revenue. God God is a guy like like are they assign it our refs assigned like like who would that my fictional and Gano Derek Lewis Fi. So I it's funny. They're not gonNA have used to be that kind of way. You don't want John. McCarthy Ref one hundred twenty five hundred so it looks weird so yeah you put some sense into that like do you want do you want a damage roughing joint. You want your sick at one fifteen carlos far as it does it does look a little weird to have that bigger in there but the reverend has gotten so much better. If you've noticed oldest go go back and look like five years ago and you would see the refs all the time all the time now the rest are Kinda hit. You don't really see us anymore. Couple of things as have happened. One the the directors trucks have gotten better camera angles and keeping the rough side of the way but to always kind of got the Mark Ratner speech whether we got directly from mark. We got it from from third party or Fourth Party. We all Marc Ratner thing and the deal is the referee is not part of the fucking show. We're not part the fight. We have nothing. We're not part of it. We stay the fuck out of the way until we got a call a foul that time. Let's call a step. Otherwise stay the hell out of the way is a lot of guys that will angle themselves the purposely beyond camera in other jurisdictions and I. It still happens and I see it when I watch these fights and other fight fan so I watch right shoulder blades. You see no takes legitimately trying to get on camera. That is what you're doing. You're you're not there for any other reason. Other than being on camera in between being on camera is legit. A quarter step is that a full step is going to be out of position anymore. It's a quarter step quarter step back out of the way and the Never GonNa see the Nagorno you there. That's how we should react is that you shouldn't be in away so it's changed quite a bit about about how the visual aspect goes a referee's but you also know that when you see the rough getting they're getting close either tencent crackers gone off. He's about ready to call time or he saw something coming towards a foul. He knows the fighters get ready to get to a foul. Like if I see on the ground or rolling him and Jake starting to roll around and and I know two other times he's already blown a guys neon blue another guy's ankle out already know this. I am right on top of them. Screw camera angles. I'm not worried about camera anymore. I'm worried about fighter safety. He's getting a lock on on. I'm getting there. I'm getting a tight and I'm getting a close. My hands are getting over. I know it's coming there. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA get right on a moment of Jake yells out the moment fighters to stop. Start Peeling stuff right there. And that's just how you get in the way but you always want to be out of the way and not be a part of it. But yeah if you're if you're roughing these big ass these big ass fighters and it looks weird because a louder with these little strong leads. That might look weird. But you don't really see Dan so it's not that big of a problem anymore. It's really not that big of an issue. I read heavyweights time. And I'm I'm I'm five foot ten in two thousand ten pounds. That's what I am strong. Motherfucker what they also they also know that. I have a com- a commanding performance. When I'm in there was one of the things I really do? Pride myself on there. I stay away. I don't say much I don't do much when I need to. It's important and I get it across the fighters I'm doing something important so it looks like Oh you're super strong big push those big heavyweights. It's often not really the kind of gave up Kinda stopped. They stopped because he knew I was coming in. They knew Toma Stop and they stopped and I was able to push resisting. That's why I'm so strong it's not because Doing also too. I'm very good getting in there. When the fights over and bumping a guy off I never hit straight on an angle ban off their feet? That's I'm trying do do you know when a guy's fake like you know there's Kicks to the Middle Region that are close to the balls. But Not really I you you know like at the high inner thigh. Do you guys faking. Like he's acting like you got kicked and balls sometimes. Yes sometimes no and dangerous. Because you're like is he like You know obviously he's in pain. You always go from the from the from the stance of safety. She always called on a little break or you tell them look I saw. It's good it's good let's go let's go let's go and I mean that mistake like I got clearly got kicked. I told. Hey you're good you're good let's go. Let's go and he was good. He wasn't hurt but he got. He did get kicked in the ball. He's able to keep going but I I missed it. I also thought they got they. Didn't I thought it was a high kick but then replay I was CONC- It if you call time and you're not sure there's no such a protocol neutral corner neutral corner you stand. There was a fighter. No coaching right. No coaching exactly. You stand in the Corner Watch. You're responsible for kicks. It tells you backstage response bounce for you strikes. You're responsible for it landed landed. High just wasn't intentional. Don't worry about it when you go home and have a conversation with them. We'll get by because I can but here I understand. I don't argue with me I know it's unintentional. You're responsible happens again. I'm thinking about taking the point. Okay good okay. Log onto him as I'm walking over him looking outside the cage at the at the head desk at the head the head. That's because the Monitor in front of it jurisdiction California. We all get monitors right. I'll just get maters ars and I'll look at the referee. The next referee coming in. Who's now technically is my second? Where the next guy coming into the cage is my second I look at him? He'll look a mango. NOPE didn't hit them or Yup Yup that hitter but hit them. Okay got hit. Let me know when you're ready to go. I want to get this as fast as possible. I gotta go now ninety time. Do you need not take a look at you. Know I think I'm okay if you if if you need to check and walking into the DOC and you walk out of the cage door and let the doctor take a look at them at the cage door KNOB LA whatever if it's a no okay look didn't hit. I know you good. We've already called star. We get ready to get back to it. Well no no no sorry we saw the replay didn't hit. We're getting back into this fight. You Ready. You ready fight. You don't give them an excuse because I have confirmation from outside and I can see the jumbotron at show's content. You thought there was context. All the happened was a six seven twelve second break. And then we're back into the fighting LESCOE. If there's a real instance I let them take his on us. And how do they get for a ball shot by business to get his blood. How long do they get if the fingers dislocated? I don't know how long they get their toenails dislocated. I've never heard of that before. I don't know right. There's no time on anything but blood but does not shot. It's the only time the only time frame that you have is not shot your ministry cover. That's it everything else. A dislocated finger like use your the Raff you see Thrown to wild names and the bad. What Paul Bundle the head hunter? And that's how big of a job at fighting. I Dunno Rico Rodriguez but Paul gets hand. Cotton the CAGE dislocates finger. You can't stop by what's he doing. He's probably clean our CH- okay. I would be doing so. Can he quit if you raise attention to that to that package. I have to stop the fight. If you you do not halted or you stop it. Live fights over so if I have he says hey my fingers dislocated advice overdone if he brings attention to it feist on Friday safety if he does not bring attention to it and you just see it he keeps going okay. So like Prime example or not want to use that one till getting in trouble. Now I'm trying to think of the fireworks had a disfigured. No say so. Let's go. This goes into this goes into the thought process to guys getting punched in the head. And he's got a cut above his eyebrow around yes wide open cut wide open. Dhaka's looked at it. They have its image. It's already been between rounds verdict. Look at it. We're fighting a wide open cut. They got bass lean in it the bleeding stop. He's fighting bang. Bang Bang Bang is getting hit and getting hit in it. He's not touching it. He's not paying attention to it. It keeps fighting but his eyes closed but he doesn't. He's not rubbing his eyebrow he's not rubbing anything anything he just keeps. Friday keep the going it keeps rubbing it with his hand. He's touching his hand. He's bothering you. Tell US bothering them and bothering them. It's piling okay. Hold on time and the DOC look at it now doc. He's a medical professional. I'm not a medical professional. I don't know all I know. Is that that thing is now bothering him. Because he's wiping blood in his eyes so I'm not worrying about staying as I are blinding vision but this thing is done as well up the doctor look at it. Doc what he say. fights over okay if I told her. That's it. Dr Savage Fights Booboo doesn't matter if it's over that's okay okay. Good you ready ready to go got back onto it. Defer to the doctor's situation like that and for the doctor with a dislocated finger dislocated plenty of doubt. But if you see if you see I can tell us dislocate especially through love. You like dude fights over. We can't have anymore but he's like. Oh our hurt my finger. Stop Time you okay okay. I'm and hurt my finger on the communication take care okay. Come here the start of the doctor the door and the fingers Docs like it's this okay and fights over we're done say Last thing then I think the tape is GonNa blow up first of all. Thank you very much pleasure anytime. I love to do this anytime you want. Oh listen I I make you a sidekick if you've got the time I do it for sure if there's money involved. Well this'll be the last time you on this. This kid studio. Oh I if I can get rid of I don't like to talk about what's upstairs but if I can. Why would you want to talk about this a per platform to talk about it? Well it is but I want to be known for my comedy and then people want to ask you. You can do advertising if you if you had. If bio sal came in here and want to do it advertising you'd run their commercial commercial. It's a commercial for the stuff you trying to sell. Well I have have a probably the world's largest game on Hockey Jersey collection of fighters so that means every goon every enforcer it is in credible guys frank is one of. There's only been I think four other people allowed in that room theo fleury time Stanley Cup champion. CBS Dustin Penner a two time Stanley Cup champion and And his police dog and one other person What we won't get the person was was it? 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I'm assuming Ima may gear hand get funky but hockey Might be even worse. Just 'cause as you people don't understand like we're talking about today. No Chara. Bean to seventy naked but with gear on he's as close to you sweat Uh incredible amounts in hockey so to know that you had forty jerseys unwashed from on so when I got the Jersey. Actually one Steve Steve McKenna's He didn't play in that game But he skated in warm up. So I won His Jersey and Eric Bolton's Jersey who got into a fight. That game When I got both jerseys the smell was so ungodly But I was so excited I had a show that night at the comedy store were anyway. I wore the Bolton Jersey and you comedy stunt that now I'm telling you every and I do you know oh I do all right with the ladies back in that era of my life. I couldn't get a girl. Come near me. Oh Yeah for sure. It was a month stench. Because they're thinking they're thinking like uses jerseys thing what's his ball smell like. Yeah that's the girls are thinking dangling smell my last question and you are welcome back anytime any time. Maybe it first of all guys you gotta you gotTa you gotTa get these Jersey so because you want to get to the new studio yeah and then you can afford a sidekicks come in here once a week and we don shooter ship the three and a half hours. Well it's you know you look at you know Brennan Shaab as a sidekick kid that's he's killing it I don't know I mean Joe doesn't necessarily a psychics but he has semi regular sidekick. Tom Suguira Red Man. Tony Hinchliffe etc etc ideas on. Joe Joey are we has a sidekick so psychics Eddie Barlow Joe as a rotating. Yeah you so you know Casts I would love to have you as a site. Your perfect for podcasts. Could you talk a lot. And that's not that I have no problem talk. I know I've literally done. I'm done podcast. Where like the guy the host has left? But that's like ten or fifteen. I'm sitting here talking about what the fuck is going on. And he during the bathroom having listened to it on their phone. Oh yeah I know exactly what you said So the final question for today perfect. We talk about stopping shopping fights knowing win the pressure that bigfoot Silva Marquan fight Both gashes ashes all over their heads. But it goes to you know they were both fighting competently like does the sheer size of both US guys factor into like today stopped assume like every every fighter whereas four and a half ounce clubs every Friday. It's the same same same about four. And a half ounce five ounce clubs and there was gloves so the guy hitting at one fifteen has been his hand is little frame a guy at two seventy five or t sixty five has exact same glove in his hand. The exact same way. Raise your like the reason why you wear gloves. The reason why boxing gloves the queensberry rules isn't the protect. The fighter getting punched reached. It's about the hand of the fighter punchy right so these when you go to like mayweather fight back. Eight ounces. Ten ounces US Harry fights were in ten ounces eight ounces as competitive glove when they're hitting each other and wilder when they rematch forever. It's going to be an eight ounce love. It's what it is that these guys are gonna hit each other hard balls eight ounce gloves does that factor into your to. You're settling no. I mean you also have to find spaces if a guy gets hit a wicked crack a wicked crack where his the back. The top of his head touches his back he gets his head snapped back. That hard you wo- but then he fell down. Is he still concerned. Hansel up our as iced fresh. He's still looking at. What's going on with them? Okay still good. Let's let's keep going spike keeps going that he's not with the blood is is. You've got gashes cut up but he's still find inbetween round the DOT com and take a look at it. Let's get the break. Let's see what happens. The break comes in the back is already at the doors are looking at both fighters and in a way in California. At least they wait. Let let the Guy Kinda on the Stephen Stop it and come. I'm into whatever it but he'll also take a quick look because the Docs especially in California now yet I cut even if they stopped the bleeding. It's it's already happened to the bone. I count the FICO. This fights over this guy. He's too bad guys. Good the other day. Oh that guy's to stop the final. He'll look at both sides. We'll make a decision and they'll tell you that you know. Hey Rapper guy stopped despite. There's no blood there's no blood clean-cut to clean cut. Unfortunately though I see a skull fights gotTa Stop Okay fights over done and this is kind of a a piggyback on. That question like I remember. There was a fighter. I used to love scene for breezy. Oh Maldonado middleweight. He actually stepped up one night to fight me. Oh Ch oh yeah. Yeah Yeah I only bring them up. Because this guy's ability to take punishment was he was like the Tex heck's Cobb of MMA like eating a beating like a nuclear versus sat kind of beating. Yeah I love me some Bob. SAPP is just shorting your career like. That's how you shortly career but has a ref Like it how do you factor in terms of your decision making ability to say we have of I'll go another old school fight. Let's say we have for Bruce Maldonado against Gary Goodridge. It's going to take a beating. You know you know the both guys so like I do you get. Do they have a longer rope like. Because you know you've seen him fight before you've okay. I see this guy right before I can take a beating. You know. It's IT'S A. He's deepen a list. I know they can take an ass kicking. Let's to see what happens. You know like no girl here. He can take a beating. We know he's going to get beat up. He's GONNA probably lose the first round yours coming back. Find some kind of submission. He just take a beating a lot of heads a lot of kicks. I'll be fine. We just know got about about the opponent on the opposite end of that. I love how I'm asking one question. And it's just like when you know a guy and I don't like saying the guy's a week Chen because because like Jesus you're getting hit by like the overall has been accused of having weekend. Yeah now to me. It's like look he's fucking fighting's going to about two hundred fifty four men and we gone who who probably at fight night is probably to seventy or whatever. His famous knockout he had against bigfoot Silva Uh yes God knows how. He's got to be close to three hundred pounds at fight time. Do you on the opposite. Okay well over. Aim has sir a questionable. We don't we don't we. Don't think about the Chan. I don't think about the Chin in that sense. Because you get tough she's GonNa fall down Ortiz dollar last fight for golden born. So I was. I was reading that night and chuckled. Good he'll look good coming out moving around and got touched. She fell down. You don't go. Chuck has a weak Chin now because of age because we sat her we know that fighters fell down fights over. He's he just fell out and went to sleep. Woke up we gotTA fight so it's not like one half you don't go. Oh this guy's got a week Chen. This guy's strong right you go. I knew this guy can take a beating analyst. Those guys survives. I'm GONNA give them a chance to survive but also finance point of how much let them survive and every every referee different on the other end you know the guys that we can just okay if he falls down flights over as it. I'm not GonNa let them take. I'M NOT GONNA go a week channel. I'm take ten more punches. You will. He got touch. She's GonNa fall down solidify despite finish. Now what's similar to you. Know we talked about guys so many. But there's some great women fighters rousing I. You know I it's And I'm asking more than telling about but I'm going to ask like I am telling like to me she had never been touched before and then Obviously the Home kick to the face and then you know the destruction of Nunez. Ns and forty eight seconds to shave a week. Chen or was is just the fact that she never been touched before. She just wasn't skilled boxing. She's one scaled. She's in no matter what no matter what everybody said. Oh there was a room for while she could beat up any mail hundred twenty five pounder that she can box anybody. One hundred hundred and thirty five pounds or whatever weight class could be ludicrous. Just doesn't she doesn't have the skill like if you if you actually understand the game you understand. She doesn't have the skill what had happened was is that she was the the absolute top of cream of the crop. Best for four or five years but during that four or five years every other female find that way class was watching her trying to figure out how to beat in her how to catch her. That's what they're doing the top of the heat. She has to worry about five hundred and fifty people in the class. Everybody else may class had to worry about one person. She Saint Kosovo. How was Chris? Wideman able to beat him significantly both times. 'CAUSE CHELSEA SON and taught us how to beat them right wrestling. I'll be and we had show loss to him. But he was beating the crap out of me for a four and a half rounds so close literally winning had to get through another whatever minute and a half two minutes. Whatever he would've won the entire fight easily and if he lost the second half of that round didn't matter all you do is get out of that triangle? Won The a fight. He gave us the blueprint to be Anderson Silva the reason why Rana got caught so quickly because the women's division was at the time ten years behind the men's division right right because if we had more time they had women's divisions just didn't have it deserves developing. But they're able to look at the men's division to learn like before Michael Jordan there was never a fadeaway jumper now all of a sudden every fadeaway jumper. Why because Emma's watching Jordan every learn from Jordan so everybody else's figuring out before they got the pros so when the pros all of a sudden there was this batch Gotcha college kids and we had a fadeaway jumper? That was amazing to watch. What the like centers fadeaway jump? How is this possible? Free my favorite player. Okay we'll tabby learn everybody everybody from Rhonda in Iran his classes watching the watching the men fight learning how learning how to compete with the men but only had men to train with as well so they're becoming smarter like men so the Women's division being ten years behind then when it came to the home fight. The women's division was five years behind coming up now all of a sudden it's evenly matched right. It's the women's divisions evenly mass. I'm not saying that women can beat men. I'm not saying that that that is unfortunately biologically just doesn't happen man at the same aim weight size. Same Way class are going to be stronger. Do Some Women Win Jitsu tournaments co ED and he gets able to catch a guy that's much bigger than yes but I'm able to throw punches. It's it's not. It's not a fair assessment. GonNa Happen But the women's division is just as good as the men's division they are just as deep as the men division to the point. Now where guys like like coker ochre starting a whole new weight division wrapped around Chris Cyborg specifically because there's enough women that will fight at one. Four five they have enough women they can make they can get ten twelve twenty thirty people people in the way class deep matchups like they have this position now is caught up. And that's why you saw Rhonda Fall so quickly. Because she was the top she didn't have time handler from everybody else. You gotta worry about the next person coming at her right so she got a false sense of security because she's able to on by buddy catch everybody that she went out there and start striking with holly. How he's like? I'm not having any of this. I'm a former female boxing champ. I this is what I do for a living. You're not gonNA strike me. You might be able to out grammy but you're not gonNA be condition me. You'RE NOT GONNA be an Australian automated striking matchup as hit. I should have done Lord. Eleven shadow w why would she even bothering San there but she stood there and she was so comfortable the hand and asking their new newness because Nunez had learned a blueprint from from holly home. She's like I'm a blitzkrieg. This girl. And she went on Bush creator if they fought again if if they went back and six months later we did that fight. It might have went to the second round of the third round because she's going to try to figure rising to get out of the way and she would have worked on hand sanitizer up slow fight not saying saying that Amanda beat her up again in the fourth round comes second fight but the fight would have been different right absolutely indifferent but all we know is Tyson and buster. Douglas Nineteen Ninety. That's all are. We know the fight that happened. That's all we know what happened. That fight was not happy it was great for one side and very bad for your side. We almost strikeforce with Brett Rogers against fate or like fate or got him got him good. Yeah I mean that was when I started to go I think failures declining because I think Brett Rogers was literally literally three months before that fight working at a tire store. That's not good that he's having trouble with this guy at all but what I know frank trigg like I literally. We can do to Morales in his absolutely. We didn't even get into your career like that perfect we have to. That's why I have to come back but listen Like that's how I do do the podcast. I think any other podcast. I'm not comparing myself. In the sense they were just like okay. We'll ask about two huge divides will ask about you know Robbie lawler had already answered these fucking questions. So where can people find you. Social Media Frank trigg on instagram. Graham Frank trigg on facebook fan page full on my facebook personal page. So you have to go to my page frank trigg. Its all photos of me. Instagram John Instagram twitter and a website. or No I did website. I don't do any whether frank furniture dot com and do anything with it and if you ask me a question it takes you to get back to us because I'm the only one to answer. It's either near my wife. The only people that actually get to this they actually answer for this so somebody takes a minute to get to you because I might get a bar with a bunch of people. That's what I was. It's very impressed with you. Know when we met Kayla us that night You know uh go. I was there to see my friends Stephen Singer from rat. And then Jesus go from Osha. TRAG I'll give my number asking to be on the party. He'll never get back to me like the next day. You got back to me. In fact I follow up. I try to follow up with with anybody even if even if it's just hey gosh number. Thanks for talking to you last night. I mean that's the only time we ever ever talk again. I always try to follow up because because you deserve the respect you gave me your number. You deserve to responding to you for me to give you a number now to talk to you. That's kind of asshole move. I don't want to be that I don't be that guy anymore. Which is why I always get back to fan so you could see the joy in there is like do and I'm not a famous comic but to them I am and can't believe you got back to me? I'm like why wouldn't wouldn't like Jeremie take a day or two because you know we got shit going on so I want you guys to become fans of Frank And if you're I know frank and get money from this necessarily but if you are around the forum Saturday night Twenty combined say. Hi is that Saturday Saturday night. Right next Saturday Surani Surani this weekend is the Serono and then the following weekend Isabel fight the forum. So it's a big you know then I'm sure there's eight more cards I don't know about that are happening control and and I don't like this. 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Dustin Poirier, Rose Namajunas

Ariel Helwani's MMA Show

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Dustin Poirier, Rose Namajunas

"Area. Hawaii's MMA. Show is presented by Modell. Oh rude for those with a fighting spirit. Hello there, friends hoping I'll doing well. Chiro Pal area. Hawaii back with another Wednesday edition of the pod. We've got a great one plan for all of you will be hearing from destined Pori, following his massive win over Dan Hooker, on Saturday night. What a great fight! That was also! We'll be hearing from Rosena Eunice. Ahead of her big fight, her big return fight at UFC. Two fifty one on July eleventh her first fight in about fourteen months, so I can't wait for that, but before we get all of that. Today's the day my friends. Baseball is back. Sort of players are reporting back to spring training two point. Oh, or quote unquote summer camp as they're calling on today's ESPN daily podcast Emma be reporter, Jesse Rogers Talks Dominici Times all about the return and fans can expect once the season hopefully gets going later this month. That's ESPN daily, and you can subscribe and download to the podcast wherever you get your podcast. All right. Let's do this and as always listener discretion is advised. Back in your life on this Wednesday July, first two thousand and twenty ploeg and everyone hope you're doing well on this Wednesday afternoon and let me be the I. Wish you all a happy. Canada Day! This is one of my favorite days of the year candidate day. I am so proud to be Canadian I love being a Canadian. It's one of the great days on the calendar and. And I'll be honest makes me a little bit homesick, a little style Jack. I can't even go home these days. The borders closed, but I've been having fun all day long reminiscing about some of the great moments in the history of Canadian sports, and before we begin today's program I wanted to give a shout out. I wanted to salute. George saint-pierre Carlos Newton Roy McDonald David Oiseaux. Oiseaux Patrick coattail TJ grant Mark Comic Sam Stout Gary Goodridge. Then is King Sarah Kaufman Alexis Davis Ivan salivary some of the all time greats whoever competed in the UFC in MMA proud Canadians mark Bocek so many come to mind, but also some of the greats who are doing things right now. The UFC making us proud of their Canadian Roots Jillian Robertson Tanner bolster this past Saturday as well Philly's dispenser had a big fight in June anyway always proud to be Canadian and There is a rich history of Canadian Ma and Canadian fighters who have done great things, not only in the AFC, but in many different organizations so I wanted to give him a shot up at the beginning of today's program now speaking of this past Saturday destined. Had An amazing win over Dan Hooker fight of the year contender back and forth. They went always so great to talk to Dustin after his fights. He's a very thoughtful person. he he reflects a very honestly I think on his fights, the good and the bad. He's very comfortable talking about it. All and we had a chance to talk to us about the big win. Win where he goes from here, a chance encounter with Dan Hooker at the hospital in Las Vegas after the fight and a whole lot more enjoy all right, so we have so much to talk about and congratulations on another amazing. Win for you I i. how are you feeling because I know that you are transported to the hospital after the fight over all the body feeling. I'm busted up man. I actually had a couple of xrays done this morning. And I'm going follow up tomorrow morning for irrigation. Just to make sure there's no hairline fractures because Dan was kicking bone on bone a lot. My on my lead Shin in the you know my I can send you a pick after this interview if you want. But my foot is slow like a balloon, my ankles huge while all the blood running down from my Shin but other than that man you know bumps and bruises, my hands and Marie ribs. Little soreness, but I'm good. When did you start to feel that your Shin was messed up? Early in the fight I. Don't think anything's wrong with it. It's just precautionary. You know because it's so swollen in busted up in his so tinder. But early in the fighting e, you know compromise with those shindigs and how about your Health Roshan kicks have kids usually damaging the soft parts of the body right like inside of the thigh outside of the thigh calf. WHO GOES ON XINMIN? Have you ever experienced that or at least someone that did that many times. No, not that many times only person who's ever done it to move Eddie Alvarez in the second fight. He went shit on shine once or twice, but then stopped. Because, it's obviously damaging you as well I haven't seen a report or spoke to Dan Hooker, but at the hospital his coaches were saying that his foot was broken. He broke his foot on my Shin, that's what his coaches said. I don't know of the the X. Rays came back and showed that he was damaged from throwing that Gail and in is your face. Okay, just like bruising and all that, but otherwise okay. Yeah, I had a cat scan my face. Nothing's broken, just a lot of bruising. And I'm taking extra precaution with my brain. Obviously you know I. Hit A, lot in that fight, probably one of them. Most shots that I've taken. You know most of the strikes. Had landed against me in a fight I think. Yeah, you know I wanted to ask you about that. Because I was talking about this on on Monday with you see just you know these these fights are awesome. Right and you always want to win, but at any point. Are you concerned that you're taking too much damage at this juncture in your career? Because you've been around for so long, does this is this? Make it all. Yeah, every time out. I'm You Know I. The thing is I. Love this sports so much, but at the same time I can't love it to where it kills me. Not Not Society that I'M GONNA. Die In in, knock the gun. But to where it takes a part of me that I can never get back. In the future we don't know the long term effects on thirty years from now on. Realize that too many. But right now, I'm just doing precautionary stuff. A lot of fish oils taking a lot of tumor Merick CB a lion's mane mushroom, not drinking alcohol. I didn't drink and party after the fight wanted to let my brain rest and. Just trying to be smart mandate in be mature about the whole thing, because like you said I've been doing this a long time. But that being said I feel great. You know I I never. have any problems. Or less leading up to the fights. The last few years I've been sparring a lot less. I probably but I. Down There I. I am probably do five weeks instead of year round, right okay? So you mentioned being at the hospital Dan Hooker did an interview earlier today with submission radio and he talked about how you guys were just separated by a sheet and you. I guess you like said Hey. Dan Is that you talk things out when you were there. What's your side of that story? I didn't hear his. Interview, but yeah, that's exactly what happened. They rolled him in. And I heard him talking I, kind of her accent I thought it was him next next to me. He sounds like he was in a lot of pain man he was, but a after the doctor left from seeing him I started speaking Tillman told only know him well and hope that has saved trip travel back in that. He gets his family 'cause earlier in the week I had. Heard or read some stuff of him being separated from his family for two weeks, quarantine and stuff, so you know I'm a father as well a little girl, just like him, so I told him i. wish the best hope he gets to see his family. And then you posted. Orgy posted the picture of not being able to see his family, so you're not feel. For! Isn't that heartbreaking and I'm sure that you can relate to that His daughter looks almost like the same age as your daughter right and to be separated for fourteen days I'm sure after if I like that, the first thing you want to do is just hug your your little girl. Right when you saw that. How did you feel? You know my my little girls right here on wrestling around on the floor with her this morning. Right before I came right here, so it sucks, you know but two weeks ago by and then he'll be re-elected with the long as he's. He's healthy and safe and back home safely. So life is life is good man you. It sucks to see that picture. It's sad to be away from his family for two weeks, but all in all everything's. Do agree with most people's assessment that he won the first two rounds, and then you won the last three. Yeah, I think The I wasn't like a big win. He might a sweep it out the second round I thought I was winning until the end of the round, which probably would would give it to him to the judges. You know finish strong. and. Than I thought. I was I was up I. didn't know you know you never know what these judges but I thought I won the fight. Were you worried going into the third? Like? Hey, you know I need to pick this up. Busted up man honestly going into the third. I just needed to. Get recompose in start putting accommodations in moving moving a little bit better in their. He heard me good in the second round right? Yeah, that that finishing sequence there were seemed like he landed ten straight punches on. You unbelievable output in your Chin to like I. Don't know how you were still standing at the end of that. What did that feel like you walking back to the corner? You even remember that. Kind of blurry you know. Honestly it's kind of blurry even even the end of the combination when he was hitting me, and then he slid a knee through got me man got me good and I'm just glad my legs. Held me up in. Her didn't stop the fight. If there, another minute left. Out have been in trouble. Really, you felt that way. Yeah well, Have you re watched the fight? Yes, when you watch that especially like bats sequence there, what goes through your mind? I just I know I'm better than that you know. I don't know what I was doing sitting in front of him and letting him go get off on shots like that and. I admired rounds. I was Meyer my work. You know I was landed shots and taking pictures. and. I should've been out of the way you know. It's crazy doing it so long and then no better than that and still makes mistakes like that. That's just great. I guess that's fighting, but that's just crazy man to keep making mistakes like that. She's gotta tighten up getting better. Try Not to do the same thing again. So a fair to say based on that answer like. Are you not totally happy with body work? Obviously, you're happy with the win, but you feel like that wasn't one of your better performances. I mean the thing is with me I. Know Like I'm not going out there to show you guys that I'm gritty in durable in that I. You know. Have that dog in me. I know that I don't WanNa. Pull that out of the time because that means I'm an wars are I know I? Have that I'm not trying to prove that so I. WanNa go in there and I. WanNa, beat these guys you know. I won't have a clean sweep I. Want to be better than these guys make the miss making pay when I want to put these guys away in. It fashionable you know going in there and having a warlike that I'm better. I'm better than that. I thought the the the final sequence right after the fight was over where you were kind of standing there and he was being tended to. And then you kind of went over to him I found that to be fascinating because you gave us. Maybe you know. It seemed like there was a lot of respect between guys up to the fight, but you gave us a window into the fact that maybe you didn't like some of the things that he said leading up to the fight about I think maybe referring to the fact that he was saying like Oh. People are going to have to start calling me out after I win and talking about Ferguson Converts Address, were you. Buy some of that talk was at your way of being like a man next time like they'll put the cart before the horse. Yeah don't don't count the chickens before they hatch. You know, but the thing is too at the same time is I. Don't watch like my opponents interviews or read their articles. Only thing I'm getting news from his headlines. So if I'm on twitter and I see the headline Dan, said whatever you know, so a lot of that stuff can be twisted in click bait stuff that he might said those things, but didn't say in that demeanor. In that way you know so. But I don't hold anything against these guys. He's supposed to even if he said all of that stuff admitted minted in A. An asshole way good for him. He's supposed to you. The beat me. You look even better after saying all that stuff you know the sport these days is a fashion show man. It's a fashion show. Would he be my that a meanest it's. What you say, of course you have to perform, but it's what she's saying. What headlines You put out there and. Not about I don't mean it as like what you wear. A closures different fashion show minutes just. Who can peacock and and do all this stuff? I'm. A dying breed man I'm I'm an old school. Guys will come out here. Just describe just believed in I. Do it for the love of the The battle man so in your perfect world like all that other stuff would not exist right. You just want the fight and then go home, and that's it I just want to if it's real. If. Two guys really dislike each other. But the fabricated stuff or just talking to to make headlines and all that is very unattractive to me mint. Is it. Is it possible given that line of thinking that you really enjoyed fighting in the empty arena there? There was no like Hoopla. None of that stuff. It was just about the fight itself. Did you enjoy the experience? Loved it loved it? If I can choose? I would fight like that for the rest of my career why? Because it's just intimate. Is it felt like it was just me and Dan Mono? E Mono and I'm better than these guys. I'm willing to suffer more than these guys I'm willing to push harder. These guys I was just very focused, and the like that feeling is like a. you know that I feel like I can perform. That's not the scenario. It's going to be like that all the time. It's going to be crazy in there, but that's I can perform in that. because. It's like it's true is just us? No, outside no nothing. No distractions just fighting and that's what I do best. What about the smaller cage did that remind you of the WC days? Yeah, and you know what's crazy is like. Wayans the day before, and did some other stuff at the apex that week walking around the case, it wouldn't allow me to get in it before I. Didn't really get to move around in it, but sitting standing and looking at it from the ground. It looked a little bit bigger than I thought, but when I got into it on fight night I was like my goodness. This is small. So when you guys were talking India in the hospital, like did you? I mean are. Are there any hard feelings between geyser? It's all good not at all. And then never was okay. It was just business and. He? Did some talking and stuff that I saw on headlines. Maybe he did. Maybe they skewed and twisted way. To make people think that he was, but He said some stuff that I saw headlines like he was countless chickens He was saying he's GonNa fight the gates year Ferguson us. Knock me out all this and that, but it's a fistfight. You supposed to say that type of stuff, but I didn't say anything at all. In the lead up I just put my head down and went to work, and then after the fight we believe for twenty five minutes now. Let's talk a little bit a little bit. obviously everyone remembers after the Habib Fight You said you talked a little bit about your future and not being sure, but then shortly thereafter, he said No. You're going to keep going. This is your first fight. Since that feels like it happened five years ago. Now you know so much has happened in this world but it just in terms of like your confidence going into the fight this being your first fight since the title fight and how that fight went for you your first loss in a while. How were you feeling in the days leading up to the fight where you doubting yourself? Did it feel a little different was going through your mind. I. Don't doubt myself ever really. I'm always nervous and stuff you know I. Don't shy or hide away or try to act like I'm not I'm definitely nervous. Because I know however prepared I am. I can do everything right and be one hundred percent. Ready in you get in there. Is the unknown. You can be prepared and still lose. That part is always in the back of my head, but the doubt I believe in my skills man than I've not trust myself. When things get gritty in in Anita rely on me, pull through. I really do have a strong trust and belief myself. And my perseverance in there, but yeah, just normal nerves. It felt like another fight week. Okay so no different since we're coming off the flip fight. Now! Do. You feel like that changed you at all like. Are you a better fighter, different fighter as a result of fighting arguably the greatest fighter of all time in some people's eyes. Yeah. I learned lessons for sure in that fight and the in transition. You know there was a fight with Michael Johnson where I was just bought was so much better than the guy in the didn't respect. His punching power didn't respect, and I paid for it. I got knocked out Orange Tko in the. ME. My coach went back to the drawing board once again a place. We've been often, you know. We decided. We have to be defensively responsible. I need to be defensively responsible at all times to preserve myself in protect myself. You know no matter how much better I think I am these guys. They're dangerous. They're looking to feed their family. They're looking to get a win progressive career. By any means so we we spent months on being defensively responsible, standing up indefensible responsible with checking kicks and keep myself safe. And somewhere along the line I just totally forgot to be defensive responsible in the grappling scenarios as well. You know just being about been grappling for a long time. You know calm. Like competitively since I was a white boat, I used to be every tournament. I can do for years and years. Having good guys on my back and. Training with the best guys in the world and spending so much time under that pressure, it just kind of when when the siren should be going off. It's not going off. Just spent so much time there. I'm so comfortable there. against. Guys, that could be. Were you make one mistake in in his checkmate? You just can't be that comfortable. You need the alarm going off. YOU NEED TO BE IN A. In a safe mode and I wasn't. You know I just feel like sometimes I do whatever I want. I'm getting up. You're not gonNA, do you know make mistakes? I just need to be defensively responsible everywhere, and the once again I made mistakes in this fight ended. Protect myself as well as I should in the STANDUP, but I knew one. Thing's for sure. It was Dan. Wasn't gonNA. Submit me you know I did a lot of work in really paid a lot of attention to. Positions and defense. A DC Habiba wrote a few nice things about you. And if so, what did you think of that? I saw he. He commented on ESPN as Instagram posts I saw that at school man. I appreciate it. Do I'm just being at this point of my career like a? I've been up, and I've been down so many times and I've done it. All of that feel like I've done it all like that. I really. When you ask me if I felt any different leading up to the fight it, it just felt like a the best. I've ever felt because I have nothing to hide. I'm not trying to be something I'm not I'm really very transparent with WHO I am. And what I you know what I like how. I like to fight where my passions are, I just feel like I'm really myself and it's a good feeling, so you know I. Think could be in other people. It's it's. It's a breath of fresh air. Air In this crazy time in in this crazy landscape, guys talking Shit and acting like they're bad asses, and all that it's just to see a real person. BE HIMSELF I? Think is as fresh air in. That's what could be appreciated that I couldn't agree with you more from this side of the table. It comes across that way that you are being yourself and to me. What's so fascinating? Is that loss? Obviously, you know you wanted to win that fight. You wanted to be the undisputed champion and beat. You are infinitely more popular today as a result of how you handle that fight, and even the way you fought in that fight the aftermath than than maybe if you would wanNA fight, and maybe acted like a jackass like celebrating in rubbing it in and stuff like that you get that same thing like even just looking at. Superficial things like your social media following and all that that's one thing, but like the way people talk about you respect you and revere. You has changed dramatically since that fight, you notice that as well yet one hundred percent and I think a lot like saying I think it's because I just am who I am. A people see their selves in me. Just a hard worker somebody who does make mistakes somebody who loses sometimes, but poses should back together and finds a way to win again, you know. People that. A lot of people are and you know sometimes. These guys could like an old that they're just like some superhero. Some bad ass and stuff like that and people do like that and there's a lot of fans a lot of people who WanNa follow that, but there's something special about a connection whenever you see somebody like Oh damn this. This guy's just like me. You really just made all this stuff happened and. Pick himself up again and made it happen again. Wow, you know I feel like truly my fan base from what I read and when they reach out to me. That's what they feel. You know and I appreciate that. Being comfortable in your own skin is such a powerful thing. Do you remember when you were able to finally feel that way like? was there a turning point in your life and career? It definitely started happening after the CONOR McGregor loss. That was like really that was yeah. That was the start of it. You know, and it's been a long process. And then being a father, and then losing again and Win and Salman losing again in winning another win is just a long evolution of. Stop caring so much. Stop caring about the noise and the stuff. That doesn't matter why that fight. Why do you think that's the one that started it? 'cause a lot of times in my younger corrupt I felt like it was life or death. You know every comment on instagram and twitter. Every. Journalist who said something or felt like everybody was against me I felt like. If I lost I would be written off is the end of my career. You know a bum if I lose this fighter. It's just an you lose a few times, and you realize shit I can still put this back together. Man, I'm still. Provided for my family I'm still looking what I do it's it's like. You've been bent, but not broken a lot of times and I feel like it made me stronger, and it made me demand today. Man I'm happy. I'm just like I'm genuinely happy. I got to say I love your relationship with Teddy. Atlas like to get respect from that guy, and he always goes out of his way to give you props during your fights now you know you're doing something right because like he's like the most nonsense guy out there. Right like that's a true fight aficionado. That must be really cool. It's incredible and the way he articulates things that like we feel in fighting is a hard thing to do. Because like a lot of people don't even understand some of the things he saying because I feel it because i. know exactly what he means Mike. Tyson's another guy who's just really. Can put things into put feelings into words that we only only fighters no and You know I really appreciate that, but the crazy thing is a watch that interview yesterday and the. After we got the octagon, my boxing coach came into the back. Lena walked in the back with me. He was like Dustin. You did a great job, but man. You sit in front of him. After you throw your taking pictures of your work, you're admiring you work. You land a shot and look to see if he's feeling. You know in Teddy, said the exact same thing. He said I was waiting for my receipt after I exchanged. And and it's true man, so I got some stuff to work on and I better than that. You know I know better than that. It's just like A. But, hear them both steady. That's the only critiques. Both of the boxing coaches gave me Mike. My boxer coach and Teddy the critique, so we gotta sharpen that them. Okay just a couple more things than they'll let you go I really appreciate the time as always. You did not like my tweet after the fight suggesting you versus Tony I just WanNa. Clarify I wasn't saying next I'm. We'll take. The ambulance when we did that. That's why I get it. I was just say it's fun to call out the next guy and see what, but please I hope you don't think. I was saying I want this to happen in August. Yeah To you know that's just such a great fight at some point down the line. Do you like the idea of that or do you WanNa talk about anything? That's next at the moment and I respect that if if that's the case. Well I'M GONNA. Take some time for sure. Let my body heal next week I'm taking my family on a small vacation. Just right here to Florida nothing crazy. Just get some Sun. Get Some beach time and just relax my mind. Relax and the. We'll see I. Mean I'm definitely not going to fight back. Far You know I think they just moved me up in the rankings now. Of course I want to be the undisputed world champion, but we'll see when you have. Si calls me. We'll see what happens. Man Money talks. Do you consider up the second best lightweight in the world as said on Monday. Did I feel like I'm the best in the world man. You know made mistakes and I've got beat bumped by could be. But. I know that can be be amalgamated I, know I can I can beat anyone of these guys. Is that. Is that still the motivation? You want to get that one back to feel like I. Don't WanNa get anyone back. I'm not in the grudge match business. I'm not in that I want to be the best in the world I want to be the undisputed world champion. You know like like we were saying. Oh, I don't know how many have left. I still feel young. I still feel great fresh I love what I do. But I do not want to continue for another five years fighting fights like I just thought because I don't WanNa love this so much that it kills me, you know then you use that word lightly. Not I'm going to die, and they're like I said I mean it's GonNa. Take something that can't get back. Not only from me from the ones love. That's what I'm more worried about I want to be there for my daughter forever. Be, there for my wife. I don't want to start fading away. You know mentally or anything like that and and. I just know that that's a reality with what we do in combat sports, you know. I'm just not I. Don't beat around the Bush I know that's a possibility and I know that. What I'm doing is good for myself, so I talk about it openly. You mentioned money talks. You want to get paid more. A, we'll see man I I I feel like the fights that I put on, you know. I. Don't like the win the show in win stuff. I feel like I should I feel like I should pay for the attempt I'm GonNa. Go out there and give it all Riga Mile regardless. You know what I mean. I put it all on the line every time win lose or draw and. That's what I feel like I should be paid for the attempt Yup. I couldn't agree more especially for main event fights. I don't think that there should be a shown where I mean Dan. Hooker deserves everything right. He does I wish I hope hopefully they sent him as. A Win bonus to the guy left it all. There is away from his family. He sacrificing, and we put on a hell of a show on on a Saturday night with no other sports going on. and. It takes to put on a fight like that. Last thing I'd be remiss if I don't bring up the good fight foundation. You're honored before the fight you got the Force Griffin Award for your community service. obviously supremely while deserved first of all. Did you know that that was coming or were you caught off guard by because you were a little emotional had no clue they. Made, wait setback down. Thought I was going to do my medical, and then they came. Grammy said Hey. We WanNa do it. Yes, pm spot. It's going to be live. On Espn live. And we'll do this right now and I had no clue. and and so for this fight because every fight you have a different mission this one you paid for an entire restaurant in Lafayette on Saturday night to watch your flight and You'll also be auctioning off your gear again. Correct? Yeah, so we paid for for everybody Saturday night to watch the fight just to help a local business. Call Bros Burger locally. The guys from Lafayette. Louisiana this business by himself, and really you know turned it into something, so it's awesome. The local guys and support local so I wanted to help his business 'cause obviously sales are down right now in the quarantine and everything, and also give people of a free meal and a reason to get together and talk. Talk something positive man. About a local fighter. Yeah, but the the the money we're making from. This auction is going to be the kickoff for our back to school driver. We're GONNA do. And what does that what does that for? For a couple local schools, we're GONNA DO backpacks school supplies for the year? You know everybody's feeling the crunch of this Corona and lack of work and stuff like that and I don't think kids should have to worry about any of their school supplies, and the you know I'd like to do. A few schools do the whole school school supplies for the year for every student at the school, and then also I'd like to I. Don't know if we can get those. Get these information, but find out the kids who are. Having trouble with getting their lunches paid or who aren't on free lunch and make sure those kids have a hot meal every day of the school scooby the auction. Is it up yet. Has It started? No, what waiting for Mike Brown actually took my gloves in hand, Rapson his bag on accident, so he's he's a shipping and as soon as I get them then. We're GONNA list everything. Awesome are India. The website is a good fight foundation dot org. The good fight group. Good fight group. Excuse me good fight group. Dot Org so definitely. Check that out. If you're someone interested in getting that gear for one of the best fights of the do you think by the way best fight of the year? People debating what? I I'd have to go back and watch you WANNA fight. which it wasn't an incredible fight, you know I just have to go back and rewatch it because I remember I was at my buddy's house and we were all screaming and yelling and stuff like that, but it's definitely want up there for sure. It felt like it still feels like it right now. Yes. we'll get well soon. My Man, thank you so much for the time. your credit to the sport. You represent the sport as well if not better than anyone, so it's so good to have you. still fighting and still loving the sport, and hopefully recover quickly and can get back in there sooner than later, but not next month like you thought it was suggested they just said at some point. You come back and twenty twenty one for all I care that you just take your time. Okay? I don't want you to think of some bloodthirsty animal here. A man, you savage! Always love talking to dust emporia like I said at the top very honest about his his fights is okay talking about the good and the bad and has truly become one of the most popular fighters in the sport, and it's well deserved. A Guy who has put in his time paid his dues, did it? The hard way took the long route to get to this point, but if you look at his following in the way, people just love him and respect him so much fighters in fans. It's really great to see and it's great to. To see that the Habib loss has not defined him, and and now here is e said on Monday in many people's eyes as well. The second best lightweight in the world he has that went over just engaged. She's so. It's not a crazy statement. If you think about it now coming up right after this we'll talk to. Thug rose another very popular fighter. She finally returns on July Eleven. 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And of course, this is all going on in the midst of this pandemic, which is still very much thing. How difficult has it been to train for this fight? Actually not at all I mean it so prior to the training camp we. I've actually when I first got when I first fought entourage I. Wanted to make my gym into a garage I mean. I'm sorry. My garage to a gym. and. In then I just never got around to it, and then so I finally did, and it just came in perfect timing for all of this. We got the mats in there. We've got the weights. On all of our gear, that's pretty much all you need. So remember when when we last spoke in November That's when you told us that you were in fact. When continue with your career that you got the love back? You were. Talking about the state of your career and whatnot, and now here we are seven months later almost eight months in your about the fight Obviously you didn't plan on this happening right? O. Pat! How are you on it to see you? My Man but I'm just wondering how you feel about the sport now like perhaps even the extended layoff. Did it help you the more the longest layoff? Your pro-career some wondering how it's been for you. Yeah It's I love this sport. You know there's definitely there's always things to. Gripe and complain about but This is what I love to do. Manual Martial Arts and I'm you know I'm just? Pretty much in my prime right now so it's just like everything's like all of a sudden coming together. It seemed like everything was kinda fallen apart, but now it's sometimes you gotta sometimes things crumble downloads where you can put it back together again, you know. Before, before the judge, you mean that it was falling apart. I think. I don't know why, but. Ever since I turned twenty six I think I was I dealt with. Light like just become an adult was kind of difficult. but yeah, just the losing my title and. All of that that sad shit! All of that ungrateful gratefulness and bitterness I just went through a lot of different stages and I just kinda gross. Understand something that as everything's temporary. You know they just kind of have to live in the moment. And enjoy yourself as much as possible. You know absolutely do missed like everything that goes into preparing for even the fight itself. The Saturday the nerves. All that's all you miss that now. Well, see, I'm in it so. I'm enjoying the process actually I'm. It's been. This has been one of my more fun. Training camps like it's Kinda. Weird I'm actually like Like the amount of days that I didn't look forward to training has been very seldom and so. That's something that is I'm very happy about. What do you think the differences is just a layoff or something else? Who is an attitude? You know just being grateful. Knowing that. God is in control, and you just kind of have to show up and do your best, and that's really all you can ask for you know, and then once once you're grateful and once you. Once you truly truly feel grateful, not just knowing like yeah, like this cup of orange juices delicious, and you know not. Everybody can have orange juice, or I'm just fortunate. The Orange Cup orange juice. It's actually feeling that gratefulness that's it's like a whole `nother level of. Of Energy boosts that you that is hard to attain after awhile or when when you're going through stuff, but if you can get there, man, that's the most powerful. Most powerful fill in. You miss being champion at all. I mean, of course you know like just being able to say that you know that you have the I. Mean that's that's A. That's quite a feeling you know but Yeah I. Think what I don't miss the way that excel as a champion but I do miss. I. Do Miss Having that bill though. When you make sense UN well when you say the way that you feel when you were champion or as a champion. What what did that feel like? felt a little bit like Like. When you get up in front of everybody, and it's your turn to like to to dance, but you ain't ready. You Ain't got your moves right. You know what I mean. Everybody's looking at. You kinda how it felt like we just got this like. You feel like everybody staring at you in. Are you ready for that? That's how. Do you think maybe in hindsight like it happened earlier than you expected or planned for like you're twenty four twenty three now. Now, I expected to be the champion stands. I came off the ultimate fighter you know. That's something that I was. I been working for you know. What I didn't really think. Pass it I didn't think you know. What would it be like once? I became champions like I thought I. had it all figured out? We're not even I. didn't even really have it all figured out just. That was my goal. You know, and then I didn't really. I didn't really. Not only not prepare for after the fact, but I didn't really even have a playbook. I mean. There's no playbook to the shits all. It's all just and that's what you have to be yourself and you just have to. Be Honest in opens every experience every day. Just like whatever whatever's in your destiny is your destiny and. Just have to do your best like. I. Have Something special that nobody else has you know It's unique to me and obviously I mean there's there's all kinds of great athletes like you know. All these all these fighters are special narrow in particular way, but. The believe in my own unique abilities, and then just kind of see where it takes. Just you know, use my experiences to. Help me. With all along every step. Are you the kind of person like. Do you watch the U. OF C. Events? Every Saturday does that help you get ready for these fights, or are you the kind of fighter and I've met many of them throughout the years who don't watch anything who don't really WANNA spend thirty nine watching fights. Norm Lake while it was for the longest time I wasn't you know I wouldn't but lately I have been in I actually have been enjoying the fights a lot. Lately I've been I've been a fan again. You know before I was chew I barely. I barely. Barely wash any UFC especially. Champagne I was just like almost couldn't even turn it on for some reason I just like i. get like nervous or something watching it like a search shaking. But? Now it's it's really fun to watch. Why do you think you'd like it now? I don't know just the. Yeah I. Don't know I think. Yeah Yeah. It's a different. Yeah. It's just a fight. You know so I think it's I. Think are just make it bigger than what it really was. Really. It's just like going there again. Gone Swing offenses have some fun you know. I wonder if you if you like the environment where there's no one really they're like. It's just about the fight, right? There's no pop circumstances. No, who plus it's just the fight in the empty arena. Do does that kind of vibe. You know mess with you a little more. On? That one I mean I think. Thing yeah lessons. That can be an advantage for me because I have experience with being on the ultimate fighter and I didn't really have there was. It was just. You, know what I mean. It was just a gym in our coaches and that's it. But. I don't know I don't know if that is quite. You know that might be one element to it but I think. I just really been enjoying seeing. There's also been really good fights lately, you know. People who have been I see? I think just you see like the outward expression of like our world, and was going on and just people just. Going about their daily lives as much as possible, you know regardless of what's going on and I think that's kind of inspiring and. So a originally, you were going to come back in April. Right on the Brooklyn Card to forty nine. That was before the pandemic kit and the fight is the same fight that's happening. July eleven the just GonNa drudge rematch. Did you like that idea of fighting her? You know in your next fight immediately mentioned not fighting someone else. Oh. Yes, yeah to me, it all matter. You know fighter Fight Waleed Fight Tatyana. It like my next fight despite it particularly obviously I do want I do WANNA be Andre. like correct that mistake as the, I've I've put that in the past and I'm. Like at one point, I was like I'm GonNa get this. Get this back, but it to me is. Is this a fight you know? Now Right, so you say you put it behind you. have. You even watched the first fighter in preparation for this one. I've watched it a few times, yeah! Not Not like recently, but like in the beginning of the camera. I still can't get over how good you looked in that first round like I still feel like an correct me. If you feel otherwise, that might have been like your best round as a UFC fighter, you agree with that. You were flowing you're. was just incredible. Maestro striking did feel really good but I think. I think just based off the way that. I felt I definitely felt like the way that Ifo inside like maybe not just visually like looking at it, but comparatively from the outside, but. The way that I saw as a fighter, I felt the best. My fought Yana, the first time like I. Just felt like a totally different experience that I never really. Does something that I've always I think all fighters have that feeling every once in a while or one every once one fight, and then they. They tried to chase that feeling again. You know it's like a drug. Right traced a dragon. Is is a hell of a drug for sure. So feeling of invincibility. You know right Are you confident? You can get back to that point. Based on my training and base on just might mentality where everything is. kind of led up to this point is definitely the makings for a spectacular performance. Okay and maybe. I was say. You know hopefully the best the best performance yet I. Mean my my. My abilities, and and even just the control over my. Myself has been. The best. It's ever been this whole training camp so yeah. I'm looking forward to performing. Pushed to May ninth and then shortly thereafter. You had to withdraw from the fight and we haven't heard from you a really for the last couple of months in terms of interviews and whatnot what we understand is from your manager Brian Butler. Unfortunately you a couple of losses in your family, and I'm very sorry about that. My condolences to your family. Do you mind telling us what happened? Yes Oh, couple family members They're living in a hot spot where you know. Kobe nineteen was and yeah, they came down. What did they got put on ventilators? Shortly in a few data just happened like that. You know castaways so. Yeah. It was up for the longest time it was. I've always been I mean just as a fighter. You know we deal with I. Have Mersa before we do. We deal with the word we deal with like we, we face death in face. All the time you know like urges severe lake, serious injuries and things like that and so. For the whole world to get shut down for something for a virus. Seen like you know, what is this like William No? It was real and then hit home, and it was like close to family. It was like. Well this is. The Co scare me. It shook me up it And now we just went through that process in. You know Now i. You know I grabbed the little bit and then I feel better now. I feel like this is you know. It's still it still scares me, but at the same time. It's like you know so many other things. Scare me too, and so like I I feel like God is calling me to do this. You know I. Read I read a Bible verse, and it's Kinda just told me like There was like John Nine two through five and said that You know I must work the works while it is day, and there comes a night when no man can work and when I read that it just Kinda hit me like this is. This is the time to work as maybe. Here's going to be a day where nobody can work and so this is what I'm. I'm called to do and I gotTa do this. Man I'm really sorry I mean it's just a horrible thing. And and you know everyone understood why you would withdraw. Even it was also fresh, known new like how safe it was going to be or not, but did you. Did you feel like you in the right space mentally after suffering two? Tragedies, like that to compete, is that was that ultimately why you withdrew from the The May Ninth Eight. Yeah I mean I I. Don't think Yeah I mean there's I've seen fighters that have had like deaths in their family in the big out there on everybody deals a death differently. You know what I mean Sir Be. It just wasn't a good idea. You know and honestly lakes this is. Like. I in a way, it's been a reset for me. You know like it puts things into perspective like I was just going into it before. I was like Kinda just focused on. Megan China control everything around me in China. Trying to make all these situations perfect in all this stuff, and then it was like. Everything just fell apart. You know everything was looking good, and and everything just fell apart in. It was like. It was a wakeup call for me like I can't control anything but myself and that's that's what's the most important and so. Even, though it was very tragic, I learned a lot from it and You know the this all we can do, is we? All we can do is just you know. Keep Grand-. in all that this that this this life is. temporary like everything's temporary so. Yeah I just got A. You know hopefully like I mean not. Everybody's the same, but for me. What helps me is is is bullied in my higher power, and and knowing that I have a purpose and. This is my purpose right now is not going to be my previous forever, but this is this is what I'm doing right now and I gotta make the most of it and. Enjoy it. How much time off did you take? I don't remember. I mean. It was all kind of a blur like I think even even when the lake even before that when it shut down everything that like should I was in pretty positive spirits, but This lake, the city itself was kinda gloomy and everything so. Like, once all that happened and everything. Nobody knew what was going on. It was like it was just like a blur a month of. When with felt like the month of dislike. Kind of depression almost. And so. Once you started to get back in and. Was it a situation where you told her your management told you of see okay. You know we're open to being book now. How did that work for you to get back on another card? Yeah so basically May I? We were just I'm more into little bit than. The sat around you know. Filling all sad and then got over that and then. STARTED TO STARTED TO? Just just sitting at home and distinct like. Acting like Guinea spiritual again and Just Sort of finding myself again I started to like realize I gotta do something That's why. Arts so beautiful 'cause Every since I was little. You know not having much control over my situation. But when I did go to martial arts practice that gave me a sense of control over myself, and so if I can control myself. Then no matter what is happening at least I can control my reactions to that and so. That's what gave me and always gave me a sense of power over my situation, so that is kind of what happened again as you know, Austin sad and like this is not fair. And then it started training again and then it felt good again. And, then I read that Bible verse, and then it was like will August to work, Jesus, it's. Have you always been religious? Or is this something new? That's come to you. I think not Yes, it's always been I. Think you know I think just like anybody. We all go through phases in our life of. Firmer meters ties, lar- habit, and then there's times where. There's been through so many things that it's undeniable for me that this is what. Is My. Reality doesn't have to be everybody else, but this is what this is. What I experienced and so more and more lately. It's been more. Important in my life and I think not having a father has played a lot into it. But for me at least and that that that that's why I always. said the Lord's prayer, because I would be speaking to my father, you know. Really I didn't an meaning. You like my heavenly father heavenly father. And you for you only did the part of that second unify. You always did that always. Yeah at all anytime time. I was in trouble or anytime I I needed something. No is I mean and just dollars, just a daily practice as always opry, and then I finished off with the Lord's prayer just after got something. Was that when you did it in the the way in for the second one. If I was at the first time, he didn't win, or is it just we noticed? It may be because you're you're you're was the first time I did it at the way because. That was I felt like that. Whole experience is a very. Spiritual experience itself just the whole build up to it the week of the fight afterward like just the whole Yana. Saga that was after late. That one day I'll read a book about that because. There were so many like weird coincidences and weird things that. I don't believe in coincidence is no more. And would I felt in that moment. Is that's what I needed I needed my father at that moment. Wow! So you are, you're fighting on his car Nabu W. They just had the string of fights in Las Vegas. How did you feel about you know being on the quote Fight Island Card as opposed to one. That's just a few hours away from you in Las Vegas. Did you like the idea of going overseas? Now No. But. at the same time. It's kind of cool Yeah, after going to Brazil I, would like I never do that, but. I always say that and then I ended up. You know like I said it's it's I feel that something that. I just I just think it's the perfect timing, and also I think the timing is better than the is more important than the location close. Yeah Yeah. We got offered in biggest a little bit later in You know I didn't know what was GonNa Happen with this whole. Stuff going on and so I just. And Yeah and then I read Bible verse. Yes I do so. I just it just. Felt it in my heart like this what I need to go do Yeah Abu Dhabi is kind of far, but he's Kinda weird. Because like trier to win, the fight was still on before. They were talking about it being in the Middle East before it ended up, being in Florida, and so it just almost seems like. Maybe that's the like. Maybe that's where I'm getting cooled to for some reason you know. We don't really know why, but I I. Don't know I think it's I. Think is cool and know just just being more spiritual. Now's like it's tennis virtual. Stomping grounds in. Jerusalem main. Florida's all the Middle East is a lot attention on going on over there and is but it. It's so cool like I've. Yeah I've also been learning a little bit about you know Islam, and just and is is pretty interesting actually like diving down deep into it, too. Or you're doing this all by herself. Not just by myself. I just I'll be going down the rabbit hole, but. But you know it, it's also just it's something I like to do. And it's all editing is just never ending journey, you know. So my understanding is you guys have to fly to las? Vegas and you take a test there, and then you quarantine and you get on a charter plane and when you land W, take a test, and then you go to the hotel. Take another test then another test after the winds and a fifth test after the fight in, and there's all these procedures in. It's like you're living in a bubble. Have you wrap your head around all this stuff. And also in addition to that you're fighting in the middle of the night or very very early in the morning you'll be fighting at like seven am or so or six, thirty or so to canton North American audience. How do you feel about all the other stuff that comes along with fighting overseas? I feel obviously that can, that can seem daunting, but I'm I'm fine with it. I have faced that everything's GonNa. Be Okay. Okay! Yeah. I mean it's an experienced low I'm I'm, dislike. Got, you know I'm a I'm GONNA take care of my part control myself, but the external the external. Situations I can't control of that, so my understanding is, it won't be outside. It will be like in an enclosed area In I'm ready for whatever so. You stay on like mountain time zone because you'll tech be fighting at nine PM Denver time as opposed to seven am. Abu Dhabi time. Does that just make more sense? It makes more sense because I don't even think we'll have enough time to like you. acclimate, not acclimate but like. Switch over time because it's only we'll probably get there like you know seven eight days before. I was just wondering I spoke to John Wiley recently and she. Told me before your got announced that she wanted to fight you next. was there ever any talk of that fight happening as opposed to this one? now like obviously prior to. Wait. Was it like a long time ago? There was but like I mean I. That was when I was still not fighting. Okay. Do you think that you'll like? Is this basically for the title? I mean that would seem only obvious, but like yeah, I'm not thinking about that. You know what I mean. I looked at fighter one day, but you know she's a true martial artists like she's like she's the ship, but Yeah, but yeah, I'm only thinking about this fire right now and you have don't have as an as she accepts in great, but you know I mean like. This this is what's happening right now, you know. Did you see her fight against you WANNA? I did yeah. Did. You think as highly of it as everyone else. This is a day like this. Okay, it was a great fight, and like you WanNa both at Emma some savages for sure however. The only Greg I have about it being like the best fighter ever whatever is that people always say that I don't think that that's a good thing like to i. don't think that's a good thing to have the best I ever based on how people look at the best sites ever. They always like if you think about the best fights. When people say that it's always a lack of defense like people is getting hit a lot. Lead us, not the best I ever. If you look at my fight against the second fight, you know 'cause that went all five rounds. You Know My head movement with us to you know what I mean so like I got. I got a little bit of a busted lip, but I mean other than that. I don't remember like little scratchy or near, but that was mostly just from east slipping appliances like perfectly like out of the way so. To me, it was it was an awesome display of our heart. And I was truly impressed with with both of them, but. At the same time like only so much, you know what I mean. It wasn't the best fight at Lake to me. I feel like I look at FIS differently than most most of fans do like even even the last last night. Those amazing fight, but I would say that's the best fight of the year. That doesn't create versus Dan. Hooker, today was this to do these like just getting hit like taking so much damage and to me like. It's cool because like to see the heart, but like I like to see like skill to you know I like to see like you know defense and on top of. On top of like just outworking somebody and just beat them up you what I mean like to me like good momentum and La. In like an also be able to just like like you know it was the greatest fighter ever recently was josh versus the other Duda with. Yes Dude, that was a beautiful display of light both to different styles. That was to meet. That was like the fight the year. You know better than and yeah I don't know. It's so great to have you back I think the fans. They really missed you. I'm sure you've seen that. People really miss seeing you fight. Thug rose. Doug rose. They're all very excited. It's one of the most anticipated fights on the to fifty one cartoon. It's great to see you smiling. It's great to see you inspired and in a good place, and and I personally can't wait to see back on July eleven so again. Belated Happy Birthday to you! Thank you so much time my best, your family and good luck on July eleven. And thank you so much. That was the first time that I spoke the Rosena. Muniz since our interview back in November in November. She was very emotional talking about continuing as a fighter and trying to regain her love of the sport. It's very clear that she loves the sport again. Of course she she suffered those two tragedies. Not that long ago with family members dined due to cope in nineteen, but it seems like she. You know when you're not able to watch the sport and enjoy the sport as championed. Something's wrong, and perhaps not having that pressure, not having everyone look at her. Bother her. Ask for interviews all that stuff. Maybe IT'S A. A little different. Maybe she prefers that lifestyle more I. still think she has another title. Run left inner I. Still Think She's the second best driveway on the planet, and I would love one day to see that fight against John. Wiley and I think if she wins five. She's probably next for John Wylie. So or maybe if they do genres you wanNA rematch right away. which I could see happening as well, she'll fight the winner of that Fan. Of course she has to wins over you WANNA so. She's still very much in play, but I can't wait for that. One of many great fights happening later this month. Month because it is July first in Abu Dhabi now the UFC has four shows, Abu Dhabi, and a lot of people have been so focused on the scene. Rightfully so that I feel like we're forgetting about all the other organizations that make may so great and so I wanted to just give you a quick update on where these other organizations stand and let's start with Bela Tor. Because Bell Tower is almost the only one that we don't know much about, and it's kind of shocking to me that no one is talking about bell tower like I. Don't get a lot of questions about belt or I. DON'T GET A. A lot of tweets DMC's like like worse. BELTER I. Miss Bell Tour. That's concerning if I'm bell tour, I'm starting to worry about the fact that I'm out of sight Outta. Mind that people don't Miss Me. They need to come back soon. In my opinion, of course, do it the right way in the smart Wayne the healthy way, but they've lost a lot of momentum this year. My opinion in some of it, obviously not their fault, but they haven't done a good job. My opinion of staying top of mind, so the latest I'm hearing is they're shooting for return? July twenty fourth maybe in Connecticut, maybe in California. They have some some tentative cards planned out, and they're going to do a bunch of them in a row, but they need to get rolling in terms of getting people excited with their plans and their fight cards and their fighters, they can only do you know shows in America for now, but they do have that European series which they're hoping to do in the fall as well from what I'm hearing so. July twenty four tentatively I would circle that on your calendar for Baltimore's debut, but it could change. It's very fluid multiple dates, but that's the last one that I've heard one championship. They're going to return in Thailand on July thirty first, so that is good news cage warriors announced recently. They're going to do three shows back to back to back September twenty fourth and twenty six in the UK Invicta FC returns on Thursday July second so little old INVICTA. See still chugging along and they're. They're beating a bell tour to the punch. PF L. as we know. There are foregoing their season. They made you some shows at the end of this year, but that's all very fluid, and they want to return with their regular season. In twenty twenty one combatant America's is GONNA. Return August twenty eighth, the also announced shows, September eleventh and twenty fifth elephants, returning July ten. So that's next week. They also have shows plan for the seventeen twenty four in thirty, first of July in. In South Dakota kyw's returning July eleventh in Warsaw, so that is great news as well a brave cf is returning July twentieth in Bucharest. They have another show plan for July twenty seventh and tighten FC. has already returned. They've had a couple of shows so far. They returned a May twenty ninth the last one that we don't know much about in terms of the major promotions in others a ton, but the last one is Reisen They're targeting a show potentially later on this. This month or early, August, but thus far they haven't finalized the date just yet. So there's your update on the other MMA promotions and I think it's good to support them. 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Between the Links: Episode 13 | Jon Jones Vacates, Future of 205, Frankie Edgar vs. Pedro Munhoz Fallout

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

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Between the Links: Episode 13 | Jon Jones Vacates, Future of 205, Frankie Edgar vs. Pedro Munhoz Fallout

"You're listening to medium long network. Welcome. To between links. Your House. Thank you as always wrestling and as we welcome everybody to a brand new edition of between the links on MMA fighting dot com the. Hot seat for those in the media space. Hope you're having a great week. A very busy weekend in combat sports is now a thing of the past and we're GonNa talk all about that. We're GonNa talk with big stories in the sport of mixed martial arts as well. Before we get into this whole thing, a lot of people reached out commented. Dare I say demanded. A rematch from last week show because it was a hellacious battle and that's exactly what we're giving you this week on the program. So let us introduce the combatants you know them both by now I in unfamiliar territory back in the Challenger seat the former multi time defending between the links champion from enemy fighting DOT, com Mr, Jeddah shoe. How are you? Sir I? AM So glad to people spoke I. Think we all know a great injustice was levied upon me the last time out and Yon. I'm not usually a guy who's four the immediate rematch even in viciously unfair circumstances like befell film. But. The people demanded it and I'm here to correct that wrong you know. I did with champions do I crunch tape I went back I watched the film I saw where I can improve and you know last time I, left it in the hand of the of the judges this time he's done in four we're not going to ot sean yet dead. Rights and introducing the brand new between the links. Champs said to make his first title defense coming up very busy weekend covering combat sports the world of professional wrestling from FIFA DOT com the champion Schon sap shot. How are you? Sir By the way we didn't talk about this off Air Roman reigns as back big return in summer slam last night. It was really good stuff he is. It was actually pretty good stuff. It was a good weekend of wrestling good weekend of anime. I'm just going to steal jets thunder and say that I championed US talking more about Cam Soda I did it I said Mike we need to talk more about Cam Soda Jed didn't want it. So we're not gonNA talk about it. Wow just lies. That's the kind of fight we're about to have just vicious lives I. With the best of them shown. I'm so excited that was brought up before we would ask the first question. So let's get right into this thing. These two guys would get after it verbally so. It's interesting because literally twenty to thirty minutes after we finished recording last week show, we talked all about him for a good chunk early on the program, of course, Jon Jones time to perfectly takes to twitter at announce he was vacating the UFC light heavyweight title. He also said he planned on taking some time off before coming back and then not long after that it turned into I just had a great conversation with the UFC negotiations are going to be at heavyweight for X. Fight. So Dana White essentially confirms this news the next day after the contender series, and then he officially announced Dominic Reyes will fight Yamba. Title at you have C two, fifty, three on September twenty, six Jeff, and we begin with you. How did you react to this news that John is not only planning on the heavyweight move like we all figured he would. But he was giving up the title and make it happen. My first reaction was. John. j-o-h-n just can't let Daniel Corny the eat like he just absolutely refuses to let that man get a new cycle I guess competitor in Him. The second one was it's about damn time you know. Pardon the pun he's got bigger fish to fry their up heavyweight I. Think it's it's just the best decision he can make right now. If he stays at two Oh five. He was supposed to be rematch dominant grads whom show we're going to talk a lot about this this evening as well but I just don't feel that's a huge draw. I. Mean People wanted to see Gustafson Jones rematch immediately because I was fight of the year. Ray. Has. Jones was a fine fighting. has beat him but the only reason people wanna see that rematch is really just to correct the wrong like what happened with me last week they wanna see the true champion be the true champion. So other than that though I mean that's not that interesting yawn blow Vich I was always a fan of. UFC Fifty, seven, Jon versus John I thought that would be fun but it's not really a good reason to put on pay per view event. So he just doesn't have anything else to prove it to five and I think there is a little bit of truth to Adama says, when you guys are getting faster, they're getting stronger they're getting better prepared to beat John Johnson. So moving up to heavyweight, it's a new lease on life. He gets to come out not look as flat less interested as he has been the last few times out and cross our fingers knock on wood. We finally get to see John Jones versus Frances in God who I think that's the only downside to this movie. Rumble Johnson is actually finally back in the. End GonNa be two five and sledged -ly allegedly but a little bit of bad time there. But otherwise, this is all upside. I'm stoked about it. My Reaction Sean was you've gotta be shitting me like we just finished recording between the lane. How dare you do this right now but you know how did you react to office? I'm a big fan of people cleaning out their divisions taking on every single person possible I admire Amanda Nunez for doing that at two divisions. She's like anybody that you can make a case for to throw at me. So at me, John Jones has been there for a long time. I mean he's beaten so many so many light heavyweights. Like he's beating. Of the old middleweight division from like seventy years ago as well. He's he's taken on anybody and everybody there is and. As mentioned the best options framework, what dom race rematch Tiago Santos rematch if he if he picks up a win, that's nice. Those were good fights but. Were those the type of fights that I want to see John Jones in at this point of his career thirty three years old he's not that that young upstart anymore he's thirty three years old his body is going to change naturally anyway as he gets older I want the heavyweight fights and I want the. Fight and I don't blame Dana White for thinking you know what? Instead of just doing Jones Versa Miotto? Let me let me try to get this as Jones versus in Ghana down the line because Jones versus in God who in a heavyweight title fight is one of the biggest fights I can possibly imagine as for light heavyweight. I think it's Not, going to have that star power without John Jones but it'll it'll developing time and it will be a little bit different to not see Daniel Cormet and John Jones atop that division for the first time in eight years. First Time in eight years that we haven't seen that I'm all for it it makes the heavyweight division better. It makes the light heavyweight division at least a little more compelling. So I love the move and Yon was the only person that I looked at and said, okay sure that somebody for John Jones. Just to kind of build what you just said Sean because we've seen fighters when multiple titles between them go up and down weight classes to take opportunities to fight for belts. When the belts you know, use their name, their lineage to parlayed into super fights like we've seen all this so many times and like you said, Johnson running roughshod at two Oh five four. Long time he's beaten almost every major contender at some point in this run, but it seemed like he had some unfinished business there with you behove edge we hadn't seen that fight yet most wanted to see the rematch dominant grey is like jetblue because a lot of people thought that fight he's Kinda betting on himself here in forfeited a world championship to do it. And his last few fights although he got wins. Not the John Jones we've come to grow in and want to pay sixty five dollars to see. So after those last few fights, John Do you feel with John is at in his career in his abilities to compete that the juices worth the squeeze hair do you feel like this gamble will pay off for him? Yeah I do I mean he's Like the he and Habibur like the only guys you can look at and be like. At the top of their division and undefeated at this stage of a hamill fight whatever weighing talk about that. But to me, it adds some more. It adds more intrigue to his fights I. Mean the last two fights that he's been in have had an awful lot of intrigue by the time they ended but going into them, I think a lot of people didn't necessarily think that they would be as much now going into his heavyweight bouts. I'm like what's going to happen is he tapped once on the job by a big boy and get knocked out like that could happen. It's not likely that it happens but it could happen especially if that big boys eventually Francis in Ghana. It's a world of opportunities and it's a world of fresh fights. Like by next week, we don't get another. Hey, guys I'm not GonNa be doing a heavyweight fights type of thing that seems like the trend of late he starts talking to USC USC doesn't want to pay him. He doesn't WANNA fight. Jed What do you think because I feel like the two names attached to John here at heavyweight are obviously in Ghana that's the fight of the everybody wants to see and then their St Bay, and then after that like we don't hear a lot of chatter about John Verses Alastair over email John versus Alexia lineker Derek Lewis are curtis blades like guys like that. We're hearing NAT chatter are there are other matchups besides steep and in Ghana that you're just like give it to me I want it. Let's be clear. You're never going to hear chatter for John Versus Alexi Atlantic face. That if you've been holding that one beer in your heart can just let that go. Will put lots of that one to pay. You. Know Lupus a two horse race the top and but then there's a world of opportunity after that. So I I'm in kind of direct disagreement Sean here I think staying at two Oh five presents the biggest risk you talked about this being a gamble I. Think this is the smart money move gambling staying to five or reason looked flat dominic ray has beaten the last time out but didn't get the scores Tiago. Santos. With no knees took into a fairly competitive decision. You know evening in Santa Smith one that cleanly. But it was starting to show shades of maybe John had have that fast on more were moving up to heavyweight. That's not going to be a problem with him. I mean, if he did fight Alexi Atlantic are we pretending like that's going to be a competitive out there only a handful of guys who are maybe difficult matchups heavyweight. So you know for the casual observer moving heavyweight is the biggest risks taken even though I think this is a really smart move for him. I think John Jones beat the crap out of St Bamieh Sorry I think that there are only one to two guys heavyweight that really give me. Questions about the viability of beating John I think just from a stylistic standpoint. John always had a really good chance of the idea of him going to heavyweight and getting nuked seems really unbelievable to me in less. It's Francis Dressing Donahue because that man has the democracy thoughts like He. He's just unbelievable in that regard but Steve is not gonNA job. Once he's GonNa fall over. So I think he beat Steve I the only ones that are questions or Muren gone because the power and Curtis Blades is very quietly just establishing himself as the best heavyweight in the world other than Francis in Ghana we get past. So those are interesting compass Jimmy but even after that, I, mean, you said Alsir ovary light isn't that kind of a really fun weird fight. But would be great to watch like I think that there's just a ton of opportunity. I think it's safer heavyweight. Again, this is pure upside a great move for him. He should have done it probably a year ago, but now's a great time to. I one. I would love to see Alexia Lennick get into the Clinton John? Jones Paula. Standing. Ezekiel. Choke. Out of nowhere and everybody's like, okay. That's the guy that just beat. John. Jones. And alexia clinic promptly gets beaten by Andrei are Lobski or something in his next fight. Sorry go ahead Mike I just wanted to get in my gym death touch of of Alexia linnet goes well I. don't even have to respond because it's the most ridiculous notion like that. That could that could ever happen. True true or false John Jones will fight at heavyweight make his heavyweight debut in twenty twenty. I think false I think he'll wait until next year. Generally next year. He's he's not going to end up doing it into this year just because they're gonNA do St Francis which I think is perhaps dangerous because of Francis. Loses at. You KINDA lose. John Francis thing. But I saw I think next year and about one more he's not gonNA. Stay heavyweight for that long I think John goes to heavyweight. Does get the title maybe defense at once I think he fights both Francis and St Bay may be one other fight you know maybe in Israel at this new fight and then he retires I. Think we've only got about three three more fights out of John. I would agree with that we're GONNA keep an eye on all this for sure syringe to see how this all plays Adam shore as soon as we're done wrapping today. Hey, there'll be some more John Jones tweets that we'll talk about next week but much like the rest of this rematch for the bt L. Strap, I'm fascinated by this whole story in the first point of the match up goes to. A challenger Jed Michou. Nervous, John. Thought. You're the champion no. No. No. I knew back on the door. You know I wanted you to say the true champion instead of the paper champion but Points appoint happy to have it. Well, let's let's stick with the two hundred, five pound division in the sport because as soon as John vacated the title the narrative surrounding the ballot or to forty four main event between Ryan Bater and Bodine nem cough at least from. Scott. Coker side of things was that the winner of that fight becomes the best light heavyweight in the world not in ballot orbit in the entire World Bainer talked it up. Beta agreed with it. Then he ended up losing the title to them. Via. An impressive second round TKO that was pretty devastating stuff but. This. Has Been a discussion point throughout the weekend with fans were coker even Dana. White. At the post fight press conference on Saturday was asked five or six questions maybe about ballatore which was. Different and you might hear Michael Chandler question but t to have names rifled off the Dana White from the or roster that was something we haven't really seen before Sean we're going to start. With John Jones seemingly putting his two hundred and five pound days behind him. WHO's the best two, hundred and five on the planet right now Who is the best two, hundred, five pounder in a plan I'm going to say right now at this moment. Probably Dom Reyaz. Niqab is very good. I love that love his running delatour specifically over the last two years. But also I gotta look in. There were some extenuating circumstances obviously. But there's a guy said a number six in the UFC's light heavyweight division has a win over Nim Cov in the last few years again, extenuating circumstances they were both very, very young. I'm not even going to try to pronounce series last name because I will butcher it. On the air the I think it's probably dom radius but. Man. That's a tough one. That's a tough one I. I'm to say Dom Ray as right now. Jed. Who's the best light heavyweight on the planet now, the John Jones is apparently a heavyweight now. I mean I think the answer is dominant. Grey has because Dominic Gray is the best heavyweight light heavyweight on the planet even if John Jones had retired, he beat it straight up we could. I know the scorecards didn't go his way but you check the intimate decisions on that a majority of people think dom won that fight I thought it was pretty clear I thought you had to kind of squint your eyes to hope that John Jones one that they're in not just what it is. He he beat him and he kinda deserves credit for that. If you really are being stickler to hold to that too. You know records-, records determined then it's open man. The venenum call has been on a really good run but at the same time, is that the same quality of opposition Diogo? Santos, I think if you're just going by record, probably has the best argument in that case, because his run to a title shot at two was better people forget Dombre as Chris Wideman at middleweight who has lost like seven fights in a row by knockout before his last one, it's it's not the same. So it kind of depends on how you want to judge here but give me dumb razz because I think he'd be John Jones the first time. So I think I default that makes him the best to ever in the world. Jed Back to you. Let's take dominant grey is out of the equation who is it is a yon is a Diogo is it Nemtsov? Like who's WHO's the next guy in you take time out I? Think it's Diogo Geog. He didn't just beat yawn he knocked knocked down out. So beyond gone like if that's a head to head to IAGO's loss at light heavyweight is a very competitive decision to John Jones when he did not have knees like that's. His his run at light heavyweight is fairly small, not not enormous but it's good enough winds. We're talking about such a curious division like even glover to share has got like good enough wins to be in that conversation. That's partly why thank Jones moving up such a good choice like do find interesting now it is interesting if Bater had beaten him cough I would be here to tell you that Ryan Bater deserve that title at this juncture but he didn't because name Nemtsov has two losses in the not that distant past. I think that makes him a little further down on my list. So give me TACO SANTOS IF I can't have marinas. I do WANNA touch shock. You mentioned it in the first question judges sort of mentioned it as well when it comes to this division John Vacating the fact that things have been shaken up a bit to five is pretty cool right now like we're like all right now we get fresh match in and fresh matchups are always a good thing but zeal cliche be careful what you ask for you just might get it. In the long term is ultimately John Moving up and shaking things up here. Is this ultimately a good thing for the division because we can have these conversations like what is this conversation going to be like twelve to fourteen months from now? Are we still going to be talking about fresh match ups and being excited about it or do you think we're going to see some gaping holes to oh five? I think there will be a little bit of both your ran into a situation where as we call it in pro wrestling people get fifty fifty booked a lot. You'll see a lot of top fifteen like win-loss win loss. and. It wanted to things will happen. You'll have a couple of dominant challengers who emerge oil have the UFC scrambling to find anybody they can that wins two three in a row or to other last three to throw into a title situation because it's so competitive. People that popped up Johnny Walker who little too much too. Soon, you've got uncle I of there. You've got rockets there. Are there some names that I look at and I'm like, all right they could emerge and then people like Krylov who somehow still ended up winning fights and I'm not sure how glover to share a WHO Seems like at times he gets old and then all of a sudden beats everybody and he just hangs around like I actually agree with Jed. There's there's a real discussion about maybe glover to share it would be there if not for. Dom. Win Street that are good wins in the division. Yeah, and Great Right now, I counted him out for a lot of them except for the Krylov fight I thought he was going to be Krylov, but he was he was beaten really good people. It's just a matter of Of Hashing it out and seeing who wins and keeping this division active and I think that's important. You need you need active competitors in the for the amount of fresh competitors or relatively fresh competitor here. I think we'll help out a lot I do think that you want to highlight this division by putting them on highly trafficked shows like some of these top fifteen fights to the co main event of like a really good TV main event or maybe third from the top in a really good pay per view main event to highlight them though she sean, you've made a critical error here because an eighteen months. There's GonNa. Be a dominant champion in his name is Anthony Rumbled Johnson he's come back. He's going to be many Ghani would knock everybody out and there's no data cormier John Jones to wrestle him into submission. He is just GonNa, Punch people in the face they're GONNA go boom. It's GonNa be Awesome I. I will never fall for that again after the way that he showed up in Buffalo never that was the most uninspired crap I have ever seen and I think deep down, he knew it because I think that he could have had like an interim title fight. Right before that, I think he knew he was done when when that fight fell out the first time, that's why he was like, no, I don't want an interim title fight. Why would I want that and he he laid down on his way out he did the job for Daniel, Cormet job does way out and I also I don't believe he's GonNa. Make wait. What are you talking about deep down he all but said that he just didn't care yeah on the surface if he tried to. Russell dig or call me instead of punching even then yeah obviously didn't care. Against Kevin Burns again. To five or the rubber mats. Wow, one. Didn't they got here today or next week or any other week? We record their show let. Let me ask you this. What's more likely to happen John Jones versus Dominic Reyes to our John Jones versus rumbled Johnson or does none of these fights ever happen I think rumble Johnson is actually fairly likely to happen to me rumbles a heavyweight before I. Think there's a part of rumble that was coming back. You know I mean the real reason every comeback to that paycheck to get them check son but beyond that I think he thought maybe he could get a title shot that was finally. Think still has interest people still care maybe they might not care if John Goes and beats France's. But you know if that never ends up happening John's are rumbles fought at heavyweight could easily see him being like our John You need to get your feet wet heavyweight lets you may just find their no belt on the line. Let's just do this. Yeah. And I'm not convinced that rumbled. Johnson. Will make the weight I. It's always a concern. If he fought at heavyweight, I feel like he'd found find a way to make it interesting about whether or not he's GonNa make weight or not I I don't know how but that's that's just the nature of his fights they have stuff to build off of from people wanting that fight. So long ago in it almost happening but it Didn't and I think it heavyweight that's pretty good. Honestly I wish they could talk rumble Johnson into fighting John Jones if it's not going to be a title fight John Jones in which it probably will probably get the winner of CPA and in Ghana knew then I would love for them to run this back because it's not too ambitious. It's effectively a light heavyweight fight at heavyweight and people can see what these to look like they're. All just do rubble versus you. That either come on Romo versus and Gado, or hear me out rumble versus Kevin Berms three. I win their view this time though yes or Kevin Burglars John Jones, and then we can see who is truly are the toughest 'cause they're all getting gouged out. This is the best game ever We're GONNA make some history here on between because I don't think this has happened before where we had one player wins win rounds one and two shed Meshu only. Change your mind and took took the first two rounds from. Okay. You are the host you can do that I could if I wanted to. Burn was it the Kevin Burns pit did that lose it for me and made it really close it made it really jess I lost it with Kevin. Burns like dinners. Close it was close but we'll see if jed can keep this going one more one more in the canny he gets the automatic win but I feel like shots going to get better as time goes on and see jed can keep up that that cardio that momentum here are he gets the wall? Let's move ahead to Saturday this past Saturday night and we're not talking about Cam soda even though that, both of these gentlemen would love to talk about it. Yeah. You have see on. ESPN fifteen went down before the CAM. Soda Wildness Began Wild Wild Car. There were lots of shakeups. One of those events where there are more changes actual fights that went down we had a very good main event at one hundred, thirty, five pounds, June Frankie Edgar and Pedro Munoz Edgar gets the nod via split decision but there been a lot of opinions on how that fight was scored and how people judged at home. I'd say it's much more in the moon scam then the Edgar camp and honestly This is my opinion. It's one of those fights. I ain't mad at pretty much any score you come up with unless you drop a fifty, forty five on me Jadwiga begin with you. Who won that in your opinion and why? I mean I think Pedro Munoz One, I think it was closer to forty nine, forty, six joost than it was forty eight, forty, seven Frankie Look Frank Eggers is one of those guys. He's got career of winning questionable decisions but also losing bad decision. So I, guess it all evens out in the wash in the end I. Mean twice he beat bids in Henderson. But didn't get his Andrey's and then he of course, just straight up stole the lightweight championship from Bj we all forget because of the way their subsequent fight went. Went but that first decision was was wretched. He won there I think last night was was a bad one. You know I think Pedro Munoz clearly did the more did the most damage which is supposed to be the end? All be all of everything I think he controlled the fight not just by coming forward but by dictating how the engagements were John You, know Frankie through Lotts combination in that ended up winning him rounds. But you saw every time patriots hitting sticking pump net Gabon leg kicking him. Frankie was reacting were patriots just of took the shots. Frankie had to give an kept come forward. To me it was super clear. I ended up I was doing the play by play for from fighting and I ended up scoring fifth round for Frankie, but I could have easily given that one to Pedro as well. I. Think the only round Frankie clearly takes the second where he adjusted to a pager was doing around one used dressing little more. But to me I don't see it man I feel like you've got the the veteran blinders on people love Frankie they want him to do. Well, they wanted to win and I think he looked sensational but I think he lost the fight. John, what do you think do you agree or do you disagree? I agree I had this for Muna's one three and four very clearly for moon yots Edgar probably the most clear cut round even though I had those three clearly for Muna's I thought second round was the most clear-cut in the fifth. It either way that went I would have been okay with it. But yeah I I'm in the forty nine, forty, six Muna's camp as well. Muna's more active he. He engaged a lot more now. Frankie Ed you're did show me on that night that he is still one of the best counter Stryker's in in the world like. If who knows wouldn't have pushed forward so much. Then there wouldn't have been nearly many opportunities for Ed your, but even when those opportunities happen at, Edgar would crack Munos he didn't sell it. So to speak it didn't seem like he was in a ton of danger or anything like that and Muna showed me a lot more here than what Edgar did in that I believe that he still one of the best counter strikers in the world because I went. into this fight believing that even after he had lost three of four and got knocked out by Korean Zombie fully I believe that anyway I also agree with the point that it's a lot of the veteran favouritism. So to speak and a lot of people are they, they do want to see Frankie Edgar do well, I just WanNa see the right decision read is what I wanna see. That's that's all I care about is seeing the right decision read and I think it should moon yots I really think it should have been Munos. I actually scored for Frankie watching it Saturday night but I was doing multiple things at the same time I gave him to I agree with the the clearest round I thought to was clear around for Frankie three was very clear round for Pedro. Those are the two most clear and concise rounds at least in my eyes and then the other three were closed I can't h. e. it away I gordon for Weber. Frankie. Gets the win. No matter what. So unfortunately, he gets the win whether scored former not in another way class, and now he's officially in the mix of one thirty, five Schon Ross. How do you? Bookham With them what makes sense to follow it up? I one thirty five. I okay. Anybody like that has that type of Cachet I'm GonNa say dominant crews would be fun just because the can headline ESPN card without I can throw it on pay per view like that's that's the one that stands out but it's weird Dominic Dominic Cruz doesn't fight, and now he's got like more interesting fights as a result of him not logjamming that division by just rematch. People over and over again. There are a lot of interesting fights for him. There I don't WanNa. Get Frankie Edgar. Anybody really the top ten right well okay. Top Five right now. Unless it's going to be somebody that you're fully prepared for him to get beaten up by like I. I think that honestly I think, San. Hagan probably beats him. But that I wouldn't hate that matchup either it depends on what the USC once and I'm trying to think of this from the UFC's perspective from the perspective. They probably WANNA keep carton it for Carton Frankie out there until they can't anymore just because. He was able to headline a show when he had lost three of his last four fights. So from the UFC's mentality that's at least how I look at it. Jesuits a fight next Frankie. So you said, unfortunately, he won I think this is the best outcome. Mike I firmly believe Pager Mnuchin won that fight I think Frankie winning that fight is the best outcome because now he is in the mix the problem is what do you WanNa do from? What's what's your intention with Frankie Edgar because I think the intention is to give him a title shot. He's not GonNa win doesn't matter belt he's not going to get it but the idea's whoever's owning the belt you can build them off of you know build off that name that Frankie Eggers a former lightweight champion down. So you get to that it's a bit tricky to book. Can you could do this antagon- fight they were booked one point in time on a Santa crummy fighting. and see how that shakes out but again, Saint Hagan beats in any of those top guys are going to beat him. But SEAN NAILED IT Donna. Cruz. That's the fight they booked. Winnie came down. That's a you know legend versus legend fight two guys competing around the same way class for a long period of time if dom when he was champion if he had knees that worked in weren't perpetuated paper mcshea, maybe he moves up in fights shows a Aldo you. You'RE NOT GONNA RUN ALDO TRILOGY DOWN AT Bantamweight Donna Cruz. That's. It that's the fight and Frankie beats dominant Cruz. Now has two top ten wins and you can sell them as the battle contender like, yeah you're gonNA have to jump somebody Marla is may but you can sell them as the next guy to build a name off of four hour or for Peter Yang whoever comes out of what knock on wood is actually now booked or data at least admitting the. Out Get. So I think that's dominick Cruz one hundred percent. Mundos Jed. We do from here because. People thought he won I think decision was seventeen out of twenty, maybe sixty, nine, twenty at worst. You can't imagine he drops that far down on the rankings maybe a spot just because Frankie's gotTa get put into the rankings so I can't imagine dropping too much. Do just spoken with like a half Yellow Sun style and run now on back from his debut in the AFC are you give them one of these young hungry surging up and comers? Will. so He's got to fight losing streak in that makes him. Not trying to push him up towards title fight. He doesn't have a high profile is lost to enroll even though he should beat Frankie. So I think giving in to a young up and comer makes a lot of sense to build those people up being litmus test you know I think. Rob. feely would make some sense there at that fights. Okay. I love I love ills on south nobody has ever thought I should book off ill sons out of fight. This guy just it's not a thought that comes into your head because of the star of the fighting. So I think even a young guy. If you're not giving Droese Aldo maybe he can build something there but I, think Rob Truly is actually probably the best choice I mean, maybe Marlon Era Cheeto cheeto coming off that win could be fun and interesting as well. But either, those guys makes a lot of sense to me Sean. Wood we paid your Muneo versus blank. Stole my thunder there with mihrab and Josie Aldo. But just just for the sake of saying something different I would prefer although if a big name rob dollars really if it's somebody, they want kind of as an up and comer but I don't hate the idea of like a Araya favor either because it's it's like one a one B there for for Faber Aldo in in some of these these matchups there there there are a lot of interesting like veteran matchups to make in this bantamweight division because. Everybody is just decided to end their career bantamweight. It's so weird to me that we get all these fighters that are like having to stop cutting weight, and you got like Aldo and ed you're they're like we're going to go down to one thirty five and chill out there for a while in this Pretty Competitive Division that has some good prospects. I think favor would be an interesting one especially with him coming off of two losses him being Munoz and favor coming off of a loss against Peter Yon. All good picks. That's why one thirty five is one of if not my favorite division in the UFC is so loaded with talent from the top fifteen always onto the top fifty. And we're going to another question John Ross Sap on the board. Don't call it a comeback as gentlemen as we. We look ahead to this Saturday night this is a much different looking card than this past Saturday that's for sure there's been a couple of shakeups, but still some interesting matchups Anthony Smith is back against Alexander. Rage. Robbie lawler is back taken on Neil Magny pretty solid I fights there but. Jed, how solid is this card as a whole? What are we grading I? Think we're going with UFC Vegas eight this time around what are we grading this event on paper here? I mean this car it's just not good. So. I I mean to I said that about last week against guard last weekend's car I hate it when Dana White is right because then he'll. Use that forever. But it was one of those times where you know yet even if the fights don't look good on paper, they can turn out to be also last week. It was amazing. It was Super Fun the second best event of the weekend behind Cam Soda Thing was ever going to be can soda, but I mean this weekend your your main event. We didn't talk about a lot but I guess Alexander Rockets is in the conversation for. You know the the best tool fiber I know he's got a loss but split decision that. Really really just robbery there to to know tombo canoes demeer. So yet that. Robbie lawler is awesome and so it hurts me he's fighting probably the least fun fight he could ever could against Neil Magny like it's it's just not great. Why can't we book Robbie Lawler Right Robbie lawler Anderson Silva putting together simplest thing in the world and I feel like I'm the only person who recognizes it just do that it's way better than pettus versus. Anderson. Silva make that fight happened I will be there with bells on I don't care about Neil Magny fighting off lawler very good. Whatever give me the spider versus brutal Bob. Law, let's go. Wow. I would love to your heart I mean you probably know this by now jed but Anderson's like last fight is booked against your riot hall in October. Last fight. That's what Dana says it's. Like come on is interesting. Go out on a European hall probable loss. No, he doesn't have the ability to quit. So bookham against Robbie lawler like this is so simple. It's so easy. that. Tober for Anderson Silva, maybe he's got more left I think he's got to fight substance Dale. So we could still see two more for the spider but looking at this Saturday Sean. What do you think? Sucks. It's horrible. It looks bad I look down the card. All due respect. Robbie lawler. Okay he's I'll be interested to watch him fight just because he's Robbie lawler but other than that. It's like, okay I wanna see what happens on Kelly I want to see what happens a rocket that's really it as I look up and down this card. That's those are the only things that I'm going to look at here. You've got a ten fight card in there are like people on here that have lost three in a row and probably shouldn't even be here but due to the circumstances they're still around. I would grade this on paper as. A D plus if it didn't have the UFC banner on it, it would probably be sitting at an F. it looks like an m one global card or something it looks really bad Anthony Smith versus rockets. Good fight Kids Alaba, uncle I have. Yeah. Okay and then you got magni probably, GonNa. Beat Robbie lawler. At this point I agree with jet I. Would Have Robbie lawler on the legends tour. So to speak I mean. When you do that somebody's got to win. So at least you can justify that and you won't have really lawler like seventeen red streaks on his wikipedia consecutively. Jet Is there is there Ed Herman Gerald, beer short. Type of fight on this car that sticks out to you I mean. Look this car was bad. It's bad at the very least they've most people have worked eighty pages on it. So that's an improvement from last weekend on paper like you have some. Interesting sides of fights are like I dunno out heiress Giga Could be fun to a point. But if you're if you're looking for the deep kite here for the for the saying, that's bad but I will enjoy it because it's bad. I mean, just make your home in live in middleweight and Lsu Jericho and Zach coming to both been on roster for feels like a decade at this point. They're finally in a fight and one of those fights that would be like, Oh, I'm I'm randomly playing E. AFC four in I'm choosing to Zak Cummings. So I can try and make a run with the lowest rated fighter on roster that I can play with and in my first fight is against the other lowest rated kyle roster so that one's may be kind of fun just just because of that. But I know this is bad Baladora or guard it's certainly not a good use guard. What do you think Zahra? Firework fight that no one's really given enough love to I. Know You two aren't given a lot of love too much on this card but is there one that sticks out to you like this one could be a pretty good under the radar Alex Sarah's anytime he fights maybe. But other than that. Now I don't think. So I think this is GonNa suck in theory and an execution I think it's GONNA re terrible like I was spoiled. I didn't get to watch the this past week show until this morning I was like damn nine match nine, match card nine fight card. This is a breeze like in wrestling we complain about seven hour wrestlemanias. Let's every Saturday in the UFC like so to get through a nine nine fight show and have so many finishes and quick. Finish. We're here on that this Saturday I think. I just think it's not going to be fine. I. Think it'll be a couple of good finishes and that'll be about it I. think the I think the first fight on the card is like the most action packed fight. John Rating. Christine Aguilera. So we're we're all. Saying. Here fans. Keep it locked intimate fighting dot com you don't WanNa miss the action this week at UC on invades eight whatever it is. I mean. Yeah. I. Look that Mallory. Martin might finish Hannah ciphers quick. Sean. Brady might win pretty quick. It's just Hannah. CIPHERS is low key tough as nails she is she is I like her I do but. Having Mallory Martin's better. I mean yeah. It's not does it ciphers salt like terribly difficult. Yeah. I know I'm just ciphers came in against dirt was tool enduring up for Before she stopped. Y- I think I think that eventually she'll be really good I just unfortunately believe that there's probably. An INVICTA, run in her future, and then she'll win to fights there and be immediately resigned the UFC. Keep that five, hundred eighty person roster so we can have thirteen fight cards. He lied about that. Why? Like why are the fight cards like this I just don't understand a genuinely have no clue why we can't have eight five quarts every weekend it just seems so much better I know, and now we have we still have what five war contender series episodes so there's at least. Fifteen more contracts maybe twenty. The. Cheer, and all of them are getting fights already like every almost every single fighter who's gotten a contract on the contenders series has their first fight booked already it's wild. Crazy. Craziness. We one thing we've talked about I don't know if you've talked about it on the show or we talked about it off air last week but. The grassroots of anime and the you have see in the storytelling in booking is very deeply rooted in the professional wrestling world I look at. Like the all these w days where you watch the show and it builds up to like any and the CW arena, their pay per view I feel like these shows build up to September twenty six like we want people to spend sixty five dollars on Israel out of Sonya versus pollock Oeste like that's what we WANNA DO WANNA get new fans in there. So Sean, since this is kind of your world. You have see announced the main events for the three subsequent events after the Saturday heading into UFC two, fifty I think the one that sticks everybody's mind is Covington vs on September nineteenth but. How do you feel the UFC is doing I guess laying down the groundwork for September, twenty six getting people invested in the product in order to try to sell them a pay per view on September twenty sixth or what's the main event for the fifth? Is that ovary sky? All right. Well as being sold on the back of allaster over am in them hoping that he'll throw his fist somebody knock him out and he got Pereira show. So I think there are at least some things on that show that will be interesting Geogra- Santa's buffered to share. I don't have a problem in the damn world with that main event. Give me. The world right there. I don't. That right. There is the Bethlehem in the world and yeah I wouldn't argue that at all there. There's some good fights on that show that I think it'd be very exciting I. think that will be a really good show tyron woodley versus Kobe Covington has all the makings of being one of the most boring fights in UFC history but the press conferences should at least have something notable instead of me standing there in front of video screen. For an hour just. Typing out what Dana says and not caring about what anybody else says there are at least be some things there. They've got Surani Nico Price on that show I think that those cards have much more any one of them have more to them than what this weekend's does. So I think they done fairly well, actually building up to a what is your C two, fifty three, and that really great main event. Where you think, Chad, do you think we've built lay down some awesome seeds hair to grow beautiful flower that is September twenty six. I do that cards are getting better they're. Just because it's such a low bar we're at right now. And you know if if you know the God hadn't intervened to remove Gerald near Chartres from finite one, seventy, seven against Ed Herman. Then we'd really be on track to build something because that fight. That fight takes you off like a rocket ship. Early we've talked about how good that fight is. So other than that. Most of these cards are also not that good. They're top-heavy at least their top fights are better in. Overeating sky. Definitely. Not as good as the next step up, you know Santos to share for the title of Best Light, heavyweight world and in Covington. Woodley. So I guess they are incremental steps either but the rest of the garbage is. Not. Good. There's too many people a. Bad like it's it's fine and addict I'll be watching every Saturday right. They're doing play by play in thinking about the decisions I've made in my life. But. You know I I don't think you're getting new fans do any of this. Yeah too bad. You know everybody fighting we're big fans of of Ryan Hall. So we wish him speedy recovery 'cause he's not fighting this weekend was all. That was that was actually interesting matchup with him llamas. But now we're going to see Bill Geo make his UFC debut on Saturday. So the guy lost a brand lock name on the contender series. Yeah. Do that kind of booking also just like I know that llamas probably needs to fight but just putting mitigates the no name on short notice kick that can down the road a couple of weeks in book llamas against somebody else who will step in that is not a debutante like it's nothing good is happening for them as of late. So enjoy the card on paper. Now, because chances are, it's not gonNA look like that come Thursday Friday, Saturday, we're GONNA. Have some shuffling on the DAX probably some new fights stokes. Only be an improvement. Man. Speaking of improvements Schon Rasa has delightfully improved and you know what that means we are tied. Around time and I'm so excited for this question because neither of these guys know it. So if you're new to the show the knock around. You'll hear the question each competitor could have sixty seconds to give their response after those sixty seconds or done we will throw it to the the judge, the man who calls it right down the middle E.. Casey. Lied and he will render the final decision and we will crown a champion either end stiller and new. The is just unbelievable to do not go anywhere Sean you are the champion with that. You get to decide what you on answer this question first or last and I'm going to preface this by saying I, think this question is right up both of your allies and I cannot wait to hear the responses I'm going I. Oh, Sean going for. Ivan incident number of takes about what I assume this question's going to be on. So I, I got plenty I got ammo to spare. All right. Well, I think we're going down a road in a way the wants to go down but. We're going to turn it on its ear so to speak because, yes, camps. Oh, to half it on Saturday, we had lots of different kinds of combat sports action. We had lots of Gimmick matches so to speak, and this is again, this is very pro wrestling like in turning it into combat sports. So it got me to thinking probably about a half an hour before we hit record here. What are the UFC were to put on an event like this and they were able to put together the ultimate Gimmick Match Cam, Soda Style for the Octagon if they could pull it off what would you wanna see Shawn Ross? Davidson Figueredo Again Stefan. Struve. Without a doubt without a doubt Davison Figueredo against Stephens stroup when I got UFC the video game the first fight that I fired up was dimitrius mighty mouse Johnson Against Stefan Struve it took me eight times to beat him. I would be all for it. I would love to see a tag team grappling match or fight. Within a UFC cage I. think that could be just bat shit crazy insane and something that they would never do. But I would love for them to do it. Gimme night fights for all I, care a load them up armor, and had them swing weapons at each other but I think it would be the best flyweight in the world against the biggest guy on their roster. That's what I WANNA see. Our twelve seconds to spare. John Ross gone figgy versus Steph. Struve. Jed has a look in his eye. I can't really read it at this point. I. Don't know if he's happy about this question if he sat about this question, no, I get to talk him so on. Thrilled. Before before we let you answer like two sentences describe Cam Soda for those who didn't get to watch it. It's like if your friends put on an show in their backyard. But had decent production values and it's just hilarious. It's the funniest thing. Okay. Well, now we're GonNa take that idea that concept and do it in the octagon where there's they have their own arena they have their own production. They have all sorts of fun stuff on ESPN with that being said Jed, what are we doing? What's the ultimate Gimmick match sixty seconds starts now? I get. We're Shawn's coming from. It seems fun to do that. Is You know you're gimmick matches because it just wouldn't work out Davis integrated would get laid on their two biggest is disparity there to really be that fun. You need to ratchet up a couple of classes get like a featherweight in there like Max is Kinda big enough to maybe make that a little bit interesting. What you do it doesn't matter the fighters I've got preferences, you could pick one or two. One simple thing. NACHOS or legal you have a fight. All Gordon strikes are totally legal. You want to open it up for I folks as well. Just really take back all the way back, get that Keith Hackney just going for it. It'll change the dynamic. We don't have to deal with the referees neural calling things and stopping the action. We just let it run its fine. It's beautiful. You can make it back. To. One, one of the one guy can just get one dude low and then have one on one. It's perfect. Wow. All right. So we have like an actual anime fight between the flyweight champion and the tallest heavy-weighted in the UC, and then we have a fight where he just throw all the rules out the window. Maybe I just but not shots are okay I got twelve seconds left it can be standing bang rules. That was on the game. Or as I like to call them Dan Quinn. Rules kicks no take downs. I will accept his answer if we did Stephan Street versus Davison Figueredo in the kick fight only role set. Maybe. The Best Part About Cam Soda. Davidson Figueredo probably manages range better than Stephens driven that fife. Just right there for. Guys guys. Got The timer ran now. This is this is the best episode era. Casey now you get to take us on home who is walking out of the virtual cage. The bt L. Strap. And my my imagination cap on. I'm visualizing it right now. Man Seven issue versus Figueredo. I I I'm actually combining both answers site I. Just Figueredo actually headbutting Steph deficit in the. Groin. I. then. beover amazing answers. I'm a have a winner winning the last round by ten to nine and a half. I'm. Half point system still rolls. and. I wound. IOS. Edgar decision. That was. that last one was a tough one because I love your answer showing. That was that that was the first thing I was interested in doing on that video game I was like all right and it took me eight attempts to beat step drew standing bang MoD with mighty mouse Johnson I was ashamed of myself. I. Love The answer. I do think that like if we actually did it wouldn't work out that well, but shirk. It's great answer what I've just always you has received Kenny Florian. Like college humor video they all balls ball. And I've always included. So let's just nutshell happen. It's. Changed. The sport. Entirely. Four we give Jedis thirty seconds Casey I know why did you leave here? It was like I said, I, was combining both of them. So I I was seeing. Versus struve but I only saw headbutts and punches to Stephen's. Groin area so. In the hand the. Degrade shot that one over. John. It doesn't matter if you're six or sixty. Arming. Well. If you do that, you gotta bring back, Keith, Hackney got. Somebody Chuck Congo, versus Keith Hacking. Thinking in my head, the two most notorious growing strikers may history. It is amazing. How much of a good guy baby face he has become in the years that followed that just absolute racking of a ball sack because of how bad of a person Joe Son was A hero. Is Great, it's like the best gift intimate it's. Just. As also. Can Bring Gary Goodridge back to with peanut butter. Back. Gary Goodridge. Goodridge in a long time as John Hasse, you'll be some s wow. Burns was not gonNA. Reference on this. For years I didn't know anything about technique in in May, and I rented UFC five from the video store and when I saw John, I was like. How could anybody effort beat him? Because I was so little I was like nine years old I was like, how could anybody ever beat him? I find that one forty, four equality video of him in Brazil and Vitor Belfort just slaughtering. So. satisfying. Days of May. And we're trying to bring it back here on the program Jed you are back in the driver's seat is the champion. You get thirty seconds of whatever it is. You WanNa talk about good bad indifferent because I smell a trilogy matchup coming sooner rather than later. You know if a trilogy happens I'll I'll accept those towns. Shawna's generous enough to give me a rematch. Only, can do the same and we all know that Josie, a young never gonNA fight me man made his running for his wife. So I'll happily do step into the cage anytime. With whatever I have left I just want to say that Cam Soda is legitimately one of my favorite things in the sport inch. Ridiculous. It is order lined immoral, but it's great because somehow they do find ways to make things entertaining that just shouldn't be I think it's okay to top go a little bit. Have some fun with our anime and look on Saturday night. They did a two on one fight, which is ridiculous in its own leisure, and then after the one guy got submitted in about ninety seconds, he was fined. Up Like I, WanNa, want it back. We'll just do it again and they just said, yeah, and the immediately fought a game in the in the rim. It just did it again like the guys went back to their owner he went back is and there was like, all right. Let's do it again. The exact same thing happened who's amazing like Cam saw is so bring in most ridiculous way. I'm well over my time, but I was so much and I hope the next time they haven't event I can be there in person. I have a headache right now from laughing so hard over the last fifteen minutes or so shy any final thoughts this week. First, off guys checkout. Faisal. You'll Missouri's doing some great stuff over there and fight for DOT com. We do really go the wrestling stuff the Cam soda thing that's something that it happened wrestling I'm like nobody would allow that nobody would allow people to compete back to back like that. I will close I'm close out by reading you the last passage in John Hess's wikipedia page. It says quote John is also a secret eighty, seven time champion and his own safter Dojo in Glasgow where he's beaten as an unbeaten record of three thousand and against local junkies. His most. Fight was A. Down of Steven Seagal at a local buffet, which ended when the best traps ago in a guillotine which led to Seagal defecating is fishy bands. Jon Hess was a SAFTA Guy Yeah Yeah that is actually on his Whole. Took I forgot he was a sap guys your. Favorite things about watching the old UC's dislike. Fighter. And it was always some do trying to bring brand his own. Will full combat fight? Whatever SASHO. Two hundred no fighter just lost for the first time this huge. Every guard. More than two hundred street fights. Okay. Cool. Cool. Cool. Wha-, the guy that got beat up Tayla to he was in forgetting Sarah Marshall. I was like, why do I recognize this guy slaughtering a pig? I'm like, Oh, I watched him get slaughtered on like the first UFC ever to is like responsible for the UFC Geraldino that show. I don't know that I just know that getting head kick fight Gordo was really awesome. So before the like the night before they were having the event, they did a fighters meeting and things broke out because everybody very quickly at the rules were aggressively rigged immigration favor. This is trash and they were yelling about it and they literally. Finished his beer like I'm going to go fly tomorrow by and you walked out of the room and everybody else felt their manhood been condemned. There's amazing. So he's responsible at the first of it went. They could happen in general because the night before it was very much in the air. And now he's on Magnum Pi. Fun fact he was an extra in the original magnum Pi like when he was I think when he was a teenager and now he's on the new show. Lying That like a cop continues character and they just a flashback because not what are they doing? I think he was on he's on a lot of like hawaii-based Steph like obviously forgetting Sarah Marshall Away Five Oh. I think there was something else too but he's been on quite a few things that makes him more successful than ninety five percent of other. Yeah. To get a better acting career Ronda Rousey did. She's St. No, she's got time yet. I've seen WWe movies they're waiting their. Comment the roadhouse rebate. It doesn't get much better than that. We even got some some MMA. History lessons to close out the show. So they also watch for watching. We'll be back once again next week we'll do it all over again right here between the links for Gen Meshu Sean Rousseff the judge E. Casey lied and also on the production side crush bigshots asked you're live on the intro on the graphics I am I. Will. Have a great week everybody lovey gas. Has Been between link. Your host Mike. Heck. Brought to you by FEMA fighting. Production. Of, Vox media. You're listening to the knocking medium long has now.

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UF 361: Rafael dos Anjos, Junior dos Santos, and Russell Peters

UFC Unfiltered with Jim Norton and Matt Serra

54:40 min | 1 year ago

UF 361: Rafael dos Anjos, Junior dos Santos, and Russell Peters

"Doc Best Guy in the war. Yeah I know that I had to champion. That's here for your winning tontons. Ladies and gentlemen adjust. I'm feeling very good. I Want Europe. See Rats on another knockout welcome to UFC filtered as that's playing we have a Aldo Santos. We have junior dough. Santos we also have my pal One of the biggest drawing comedians in the World Russell Peters will be on today's a huge anime fan could find a good friend of Bruce buffers a really great guy and very funny I heard he does Jujitsu. Yes yes he does boxes but the important thing here is I ate some of those pretzels peanut butter in them. And I'm just feeling like a fat pig every time I get social media clips to tweet out I look. I'm like why is Matt talking to that water balloon. Oh that's me Jimmy. What a FAT head? I'M NOT GONNA lie to you you you you attack those fucking peanut. Butter filled pretzels. Like I attacked Frank Trigg at that relentless you will relentless I was relentless and it was at one point. When you ask for more about the hand that you have to pull who'll back you had one sticking out of your mouth like a little big I did and I was GONNA say no? Jimmy don't do. I was like I want to stop you. There was a help you they're hurting. You're saying me for myself. There was a pretzel in my my mouth and I went and reached for more. But I'm done eating them. They were not even that satisfying requested. The Bob don't leave them out anymore. Not again it's my problem album. I'm the weakling but I know I'm weak. Yeah Jimmy I didn't. That was not that was in a proud moment of yours. I didn't like CNN. And I've had a lot of shameful moments. It's like five hundred fifty one years of shame. This is this is in the top thousand. I looked over. I was going to hand this to you and I know what it's not. Some people will just listening to this but are more I pulled back you like this little young I really was. I was a fat pay with my mouth. Yeah you talk a little piggy. I sure did I pulled it away. But you're not you're in shape. I'm not in shape. I'm in shape for a pig. Now I want my mouth. It's delicious. It's delicious trust me. I said that when I was young Jimmy. Aren't they tasty math strong. You only have one. I put away this. I need something like that from my home. A Nice Jar. A heavy jar to put treats in willful. Burglars hit with the Heavy Jar. You could do that. You could use as a weapon. No no no no. He's trying to stop the BUNA. Hit The intro so good. We'll play twice. I'm emoting the card this weekend. From Raleigh. Dos Anjos roughhouse fighting Michael Kesse. And of course junior to Santos's fighting curtis blades really really as RDA some of his losses like his first of all nobody should be sleeping. Leeann Leeann Edwards Edwards is the most underrated guy in the hell man. I mean because of that backstage altercation with Massa that like yeah that hyped up Mas- with Dell even more like it brought in more like fame out everywhere and I duNNo. Some guys getting slept only on Edwards. He's GonNa be fighting though the former champ tyron woodley when they are all Arctic Twenty March twenty first and they said according to Leeann. We're there we're GonNa Strip would have his ranking because he wants to fight I guess he wants to fight tomorrow or COVINGTON and He said he didn't have to fight Liane Edwards number four. I think he should fight. Oh I do too going to. Of course I WANNA see how hungry tyron needs to get this back and 'cause he was such a dominant champion. Well every you know you're only as that's good as your last fight so people are looking at that last fight. Tomorrow's can awesome everybody's talking about tomorrow and he said that great fight with Colby. Yeah people forget how dominant tyrant was you know they talk about like him and GSP for the festival tweets ever and that type of talk and now it's almost like a tyrant who not I think he's dangerous L. Right right hand where ceus powerful explosive but Leon Edwards is hungry man. He looks hungry. I just pitch him just just what everybody. All this shit's going on. I could see him training. Yeah I mean he just looks if every time I hear them talking. It's very confident on the point of being cocky and I like it man. 'cause the guy's is back in that shit up we were just watching fight with RDA. Yup I think are added really great first round but w fairly dominant Edwards thing is how he's losing some sometimes he's getting out it. He's not like he's getting beat up. No even the fights he's losing he's not getting smashed. He's getting out appointed by getting taken taken down but then he's not even getting beaten up down he's getting back up most of the time but then the guy will get him out again or something you know. So he's like falling behind in points. You know else. I wonder if that's going to be frustrating. Him knowing that that's how key yes plays a pressure fighter hill. He strikes but it's usually usually just close that distance and then it just grind guy out a lot of ground and pound. You know good standing. He's not bad standing. But you know I think his preference is the do like he did the Diego just like smother. Even though it is true Diego did choose to shoot first but can I say what an interesting fight this is. What's that for? Rda To take because RDA's number five is a welterweight and says I believe unranked. How did this fight? Come about dying question. Obviously look you look at the top guys. He's not GonNa get who's been or Woodley who's fighting Edwards call a broken jaw Jorges probably going to fight Mike Connors or fight for the belt and if he wants to go down. I'm wondering why he is taking. That's a great question. Has he fought wonderboy or no has RDA for wonderboy. I think that'd be a very very interesting fight and I I get not. It's not all about rankings but wonder boys ranked higher unless he has something lined up. Did you would the voice. I HAVE NOT J- interesting you're not GONNA kick off. Did he sang it well. I love one. The boy is the nicest forgave. We Love Stephen right a bad motherfucker very great song. It's not that I know he doesn't WanNa see wonderboy singing but it goes like one do boo ooh. I don't know it's fucking weird. Because he he I swear yeah he walks out here. That are we allowed to. Yeah I think we should be able to play that thing in wonderboy. It's a little it's A. It's it's I think it's interesting you know. But he's such a great. Listen how do you not. One boy is like a music videos. Information de Today's nations are this song. Is this it. Yeah I take it back I like it yes I love it. What is this about I? I don't know but now that I've seen the video I like. It was just say nothing to do with Stephen Thompson. He took it the same way. Mickey Gault what do you Mickey. You're so fine was written from A. He just took it. Why am I lightheaded? Ginny again. I'll we have Raphael on the on the right now. I don't WanNA crying. Yeah all right. Let's do you guys gotta give me a couple second notice. Hello type guys. I'm sorry for gelling all good to see you buddy. How did the fight with key ESA come about considering these other guys who are who are ranked higher that might have been and Also interesting match ups for you. Yeah so we we took a look the rankings and So I'm trying to not not just stay to attached to their rankings anymore at all because back on the days that the Abidi find cloudy and will have no problems. These days. People trying to always find that guy high-ranking Ryo why are high in on them Dan so I'm just trying to you know just strictly active and making fights that makes sense to me and I think he is. He was this coming from like two good. Wins over condit in an EGO Sanchez. And it'll be a good guy from your so you that's great so you're looking at like you're not obsessed with rankings anymore. You just want good funt so because we know we took a look in the rankings and I I got I got that call to fight But he was in. I was just busy with movie and get Ready get stuff up done. Gets things saddle at home. Couldn't take their fight but he was book with vicinity Lewke right after that and so we just look at the ranking than everybody. Some guys are were injuries some other like high ranking them me but Murphy follow and And Leo Adler advise had. Just meet me in Coleman who's month so they'll option was better legal so and then I you know key has come on his name on the table. Avon took that fight now with some of these fights that you're you're losing you're not really getting beat up in you just getting out like pointed wanted like they take you down against the cage and you get back up without getting damage. But it's like it's like you have to catch up points to you know what I mean. 'cause even Edwards it was the blend of the take downs. I think that Kinda maybe got him ahead on some points. Now you fight Michael Kiassa. He's known for pressure and just looking to put you down. Is that kind of frustrating. Or you say I mean you will great neutralizing Kevin Lease take down. I love that but as a kind of styles make fights I just like all right now I gotta make sure I gotTa keep this guy from from. Just get me down and yet backup getting down that type of Shit. Yeah I think those bigger guys like WHO's Mon- Goldie Like Lee was like he was former in l.. A. Usually won't be that way simply ask he is so I don't think this site. He's taller than me but I don't think it'll be their size in shrank advantage. You know and I think we're going to be pretty even and he's not a wrastling. No not a puree he. He's GonNa Looking for submissions. And I think I've been trained a lot of ground Game Pizzas my background. And I think I have been tested submitting into. I like hearing that gets me excited. I remember her. The Neil Magny fight. WHO's a stud and who's also taller than you thought of the fight against all guys that trying to to out grapple me and I fight well again because I know he's GonNa be he's GonNa go try to go forward his aren't gonNA? I tried to stick me trying to stall the fight. You know. I won't make sure hit on the data. I'll make sure that Bush the pace he's going to look for the silver mission. He's GonNa give some open his fight with the Egos Sanchez thoughts on that one. Because I'll tell you ju Jitsu was on point not mentioned Semitic calls conduct with a one on guility Camara which was pretty slick. That was is leaking water so I have been training a lot of. I think like I got that a little bit from fights at turn a lot on the ground because they knew he takes it back. Well just like he is a can't give the back you you now I know is he got he got he take that back really well but I'll make sure I'll stay out of trouble. It's funny right. How some fighters like you know you cannot expose your back and then other fighters you just? Don't you know like when I was fighting. BJ Band. I'm like dude. I know I can't get this guy on my back when I was fighting Matt Hughes. I didn't really give a shit anyway. Back to you fucking former champion. What you've been in this game so long what's is it? Is it a goal. That's still drives. You like is not the money but the golden belt again or is it just the love of competition what still drives you to compete now. Love Compete you know like when I take a A big layoff like did from last fight. I mean like I stopped me. I see how much I love that thing. How much training and I leaves death data in our lives that I live a good life and I live a healthy life and you know this Saturday will be my forty three five in a fight number forty the former way in a former like ray champ already fought for the belt on this wall so of course they go there? What drive me? I'm trying not to Fox too much on the belt. I know like I need result and one step of the time and I think when when the Opportunity Com. I'll make sure we'll get ready. Jimmy this is one for me I gotta ask. I'm sorry I feel. You've got a very underrated ground game because you smoke people what your knees. Your kicks your punches launches. They sleep on your ground game. Sometimes when you're done fighting hope many years from now whatever it is are you going to think about doing straight up to two tournaments or a special or something like that. I interested in seeing it to be honest with you. Yeah that's something that I looked for. You know when I'm they'll fighting fighting in those hard to be completely I love. I love training. Get You you know after a couple of weeks. I'm training and stop picking up. Stop doing like really well with ghee. And I. I WANNA know couple big tournaments when I was four Out Than Brown belt back in Brazil won Moon House when I was purple belt so I was and then after I got in all black belt. There's talk training we give because of the MMA. That's something that I'm looking for in all like compete and give training and get get their mind busy the benefits of wearing and again you guys. If there's a fight coming up two months before I understand taking it off. Do you feel benefits to wear in the gay and to become a better just to play a lot. A Lot With Gig Young. You don't scramble as much as a Nogi you know you have to do. The right attack meek so. Last week I had my John last week I was training. We you know like I had the guys thinking off the top bar and I was with my key and I was allowed to use my grips. So it's given at different Luke in a different type of training and of course if you WANNA get had Good for mantos. You have to wear your g otherwise just going to scramble and scrambled position if you WanNa get good technique gotta put your you became a naturalized citizen about a month ago of the. US Yes congratulations. What was that process? Like yeah I be in leaving here for eight years and so when it came he had come with a work visa through yet and I I applied for my green card took like Five years with a green car and in Oh now we stabilize it here. USA opened the doors for me and for my family. And and I love this country and in all and my family love hit you. And that was a controversial opened. The dos fours in so I can approach to my kid's life a safer life and Mancilla so happy to accomplish that and The US passport uh-huh works you have to change your passport. Yeah so I still have the Brazilian passport when I go to Brazil. I use my Brazilian passport. But now what I WANNA blast right to resonator and American. I still haven't gotten my my my American passport yet but it will I walk lie. Once they get back from the fight. Do you go. Do you have to go to like because my friend comedian. Jim Jefferies. Just I I believe that you have to go like swearing in ceremony or is there something they expect. It's better to do. Yeah the oath of allegiance. Yeah I did that was that was a great great great ceremony. Love that makes you feel someday. It's you know it was a special moment for the whole family. Yeah and look at my kids in in all Daylight in no. I have a flashback. I'm on my mind so where I Bourne where I come from in now I born enough. I fail as it didn't have much for Turner in my life and in oh coming from where they came in. You know to give that to my kids you know like the American Citizenship Fan. You know the account trough the opportunities and so that was a great great moment for me. When you're in a fidelity you growing up in that atmosphere? There's a lot of drugs. There's a lot of crime this guy's trying to make money. How do you avoid that? That had avoid falling into that trap just to survive The Guy that took me to sheet to you know he was he he lived. It'd be across from me on the other side of the you know like very good France. He was one year older than me and when he was seventeen he went into drugs and felt like joined the cartel soft and he got killed with eighteen years old and that was the guy that brought me to shoot so and you know even that out I was going to. You know Middle School in first grade with these guys they they become a in all the the boss of the Vela's I I was just like still being there France but in all my mom is still live down on the place that that I warn my family's still there. Yeah but in all I still have a good relationship when go there. People respect me because because I was on the same environment but I never join any party. No I always cloak within the just just folks in. I'm doing the right things you know so when you go back you see your old friends and you're comfortable going back and you know that you're GonNa be okay totally you know people. Don't don't mess up with my family. They know they're my family family. And you know when I find people you know saw in all they do a big party for me there and they all watch my fight together. It's fun and also what do you think too because now that the one fight. I think that you weren't able to make was your fight with Connor. Do I think it was an injury. Now he's fighting fighting at welterweight is he. He's probably GONNA stay there. He's talking about going back down for me but I think he's in state Walter as long as he can. Is that something. You've thought of possibly getting a shot at your. Yeah Mail in all my one hundred percent of my Fox's ran now is on key Saturday by passing that I'm not trying to look passing data. uh-huh is that could be an opportunity. You know like we got close twice. I have This Saturday will be forty. Three five professional fights and I never pulled out due any injury just one time guest corner. I broke my food and you know as a fighter. Matt you know she happened right thank you. Can you know it. It's a combat sport. You know I got hurt and that she happened but you it could be and then we were scheduled fight. I heard we went to the tidal for the entering titled title. But now and then he broke the bus hit. Throw them in the dollar and the Buzz Nip. The things didn't happen so we got close twice at thank. He's on the radar and IPO COCO me. Gatekeeper on that division. have no problem with that. And if you want to join division I will be two outcome him. Well look good. Good luck against this is a great fight against a looking forward to seeing who you fight after Good luck with always good watching you but thanks appreciate it. Bank my pleasure. Thanks for having me. Congratulations that's good for you. Thank you I mean I like. Rda Yeah I really like. He's Jujitsu is underrated rated. You know what I mean this. Yeah I am too It'll be interesting to see how he handles him. You know I wanNA know who is going to be fighting soon What's his name again? Jimmy one didn't he just say he's in the Sky I don't know what are the words. Can we have the words I'd I'd rather we didn't Jimmy looking for a sorry one boy. Is it a fun. Say it I prefer to Jimmy. Listen so so we have different definitions of fun Jimmy. I'd just like you know it's funny. I really funny but I like to sing but yet you'll never find me at a Karaoke bar. You know Jimmy. Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's not my Jimmy. Do you likely star. Wars shirt organise star wars. I I like your stores compared to your singing. I love your store shirt compared to anything else I don't care you WanNa see my socks this ouch that'd be my wife when we're young look like it let us. That's Nice Matin his wife. That's a nice side. This one is my wife also but it's just a face that it goes babe. Where do you get them made? She knows I love. They got the made. No that's cool. I'M GONNA get pick me and ozzy made into a sock Ozzy Osbourne you love him. Of course. Do you missing music. You'll miss a man both not in a physical way but I just love him. That's trying to say you want to sleep with them. No it's weird man he heads off a doves and bats. Are you going to do. He's busy hungry. Go grab a snack into how hard healthy on the road for the Bike Junior. Let's get jd. Yes on now. He's fighting Curtis Blades. Is that always fighting. He is indeed curve blades. Yep Easy for anybody. No it's either. Jd US US former champ. Hello how are you yes. Sportmanship J. D. S.. What's up buddy? Guys how are you very good. How are you good to talk team? Fine now. Where where are you right now are you are you around? Raphael is because we just talked to him. It looks at the same background. I'm I'm mad at my room to run. Okay all right cool. I'm assuming man it's too cold here. Saw A man. It's hard to go out of their room here. Do you handle Dole a very warm weather place. Do you handle the cold badly Really like you know. Cold weather But Yeah it's not being dad that bad you know we're having good times here doesn't make a difference though I mean the lead up to the fight. Are you gonNa you you know whatever you gotTa do to prepare for your imagine. You'RE NOT GONNA be cutting whatever you gotta do to prepare. You can't go out and do it like you. Just gotTa stay in the hotel. Do you approach things differently. When you're in a place like that thing unlike say Vegas where you can go out and do whatever you want I think for me it's A? It's a little a little better because I don't lose any weight for my side and I don't need to wait for my fight and you know I'm around fifty to fifty two saw. I'm fine you know but I okay I I can imagine the guy that they have to cut way you know. They're in trouble for sure now now. Jd Asu. Last three fights verse Francis Derek Lewis and tied to Vasa. It's it's guys that are the big bangers dangerous strikers and usually the game the plan is upstairs now. You Fighting Curtis Blades whose he's dangerous. Stop but he. He's a dangerous grappler. Let's face it. He's looks to put the fight down. Is that how do you. How do you feel about that? Because I know you love standing and I know you're also jitsu black belt. So how what do you feel about fighting a guy. That's looking to put you down. Well I already already have experienced before you know and other guys Sir example. I think it's a their game plan are kind of the same but But I ask aalto. Good fights fight. You never know what's going to happen you know I'll be looking to the knockout in all four of the Hotan again. You know. That's what I love to do. They WANNA give for the people here in rally. You know I know that that likes to see good knockout. So I'm there to give one for them but I know you know this guy is is a tough guy and all he's going to be tried to take me down all the time but And if I have to digital Actually I don't think it's GonNa be that easy for him to take me down. I have I I have three good. Take Down Defense. But if he does you know we we're going to do if he gets to grapple. We're GONNA grab like you said you have wrassling I'm American top team right now and I feel good about that about that too. You know. It's of course if I have to pick what to do. I want to stand up and bang. You know I love boxing in that's my thing so but it's May we have done the same dad and the more experience again. I realized that I you know I have everything what it takes to to beat others guys. I'll be ready for for him you all. It wants to dig now long. I mean he's he's going verse a former champion in yourself so you know he's just licking his lips. Get ready for this fight. Super psyched thinking. This is the hugest name that he's fought so I mean. Does that give you extra motivation. See if he gets if he has me under his belt that puts him in line aligned for big things Oh yes or no. I used to say that every next fight is the most important fight of your career. And that's why always take this fight. You know it's a it's a very important find for me an all even especially actually the same thing for him and That's why I I'll be training very hard. You know to be ready for despite to be ready to to to win this fight on Saturday night and you know all respect my opponents you know like you guys know it and Yeah let's let's Jimmy. When I I heard now you are you a big fan of the rocky movies because you'll come out to the rocky song accurate accurate? Who doesn't you know we we all That that story you know it's actually. I love that story. It's amazing okay. I'll tell you right now. The first time I heard you come out to it. It was after back when I was fighting. He's he's becoming a veteran now so I'm like man that's that was. My rock is la more like rocky. I'm short and I'm Italian guy. Why is this big smiling Brazilian coming out to my rocky song? But I can't stay mad at that he's looking at you. Can't he's he's he's handsomer Helix Center. We both love rocky law squalls feeling after the first three though you gotta be honest franchise it took a dip in part for the Russian one was not a good speech at the end of the Russian one. The goal yeah anyways listen. He likened insulted. Rocky I apologize. I'm looking to fight this week. I am too and Francis you know obviously is it harder or easier to adjust after fi like Francis. It's like everybody gets caught. It was just one of those things you know. Is it one of those things things. That's difficult to come back from or is that kind of an easier one to shake off its man You know I know. Oh were Kinda what kind of tied I am. You know and I know who I am in is a fighter. I love what I do and Sometimes we we are not in the best day you know things are fighting is not I consider like eighty percent of five years mantle. You you know so you have a you have to give yourself positive on the in average situation. Of course you don't want to leave the negative results but a like it happens with media and all that time with Francis is a his he has a lot of power but But I think I was confident I at the beginning the five I felt I felt I felt very confident. Then I tried I that overhand right against him and that thing exposed me exposed me me too his his power and he's enjoyed the modern. I paid a big price but you know of course I have to prove that inside sidearm gone but for me. You know. It doesn't mean has he that he's better than you know he's saying he was saying many many things but one of the all of my goes right now is to have that rematch. Because men like I said I felt good in. I should stick to you my my game plan to my strategy and I didn't I expose myself in my strategy was to especially the first wrong to move a lot in throw some fast hands against him you know against him and keep myself like on not defense way but like more cautious for all. These are the first wrong off the ball. I could all have some fun and you sits eighty percent mental. Do The Times where it hasn't gone the way you wanted to go. Do you find. Have you gotten distracted or did you feel it before you walked into the fight. I don't not even mean necessarily with him just other times. Have you felt something was off before you walked in or is it usually something that will happen in the cage wall. It was in the cage. Actually I was kind of nervous because I knew nervous. Like like say Asians it's normal. The the match are not well. Heck Yeah saw I was coming to the fighting kind of neighbors but as soon as the fight started started you know I felt so good he can twice. I didn't do anything for those aches. And then I kicked him and he follows to the to the ground and then I punch him on. The badly in his is big is war. This fight is nine. You know so I felt too confident and then I soi hulk overhand rights. Because I saw a good distance for that and I didn't I should be measured the measuring the distance before with my job but I didn't I just throw their orga handwriting. I put a lot of power that in. Yeah that that was the moment my mind mistake. Because I I fell to Kaufman. You know I was expecting something much harder from him in. I didn't feel that so I was. I thought this is my moment and through the behind the ride expose myself. He joined the moment. Punch me punch me in malls out no along things up. You'd like very much your I love I love you no doubt rematch. I won a half my terrified with they stupid to so many many things to do this vision men in right now I have a very tough guy from me. My as my opponent in That's kind of feeling that I love to haul you know big challenge. So let's go good luck band. That's the main event this weekend in Raleigh yourself against Curtis plays. It's a really interesting fight and good luck and trying to have fun in Raleigh. I imagine you won't be staying offer a few days after the fight right. Stay warm buddy. Stay warm over there. Thank you guys. Take such a fraser. Very Nice Dude. Yeah you know. And that's GONNA be hell so if I liked curtis blades. I do too next episode Curtis Blades. Now who's GonNa Nice episode. Do you favor really quick. Press play in really quick for two seconds seconds. Excellent stop wait wait sorry to hear it one way or the other. Would you rather hear it from fucking Sin Atias de Jack Black and I forget the other really. Yeah yes Jack Black things so you basically basically just enjoying a Jack Black Song serious would you walk out to a Matthew mcconaughey number somebody with you any other words. Thank God right now. I'M GONNA learn. I have faith by Wednesday's episode. You should save it for for next week or next time. We have wonderful wonderful surprise. You want me to sing a classic Jimmy. I just `Camorra to man. I put his. Aw behind his back. I kept it there Intel. It snapped Jammie. I have no choice Jimmy. Listen that's a very bad so much fun what you do. I don't even think to my wife. Of course you don't want to you. That's wonderful. Lucky me I'm going to tell one day which is missing although wonderful Sava ask her to try to ask you to start seeing it home. Just get worried if I stopped wearing your face on my socks like I do it my wife will. I'll be disturbing wearing yours just to bug you so when you say I'll put my feet up. We'll see a picture menial let's take a break. I got thinking leaving. Hello we're back we're back. I just had to go potty. Jimmy Yeah we got Russell Peters coming on who is also promoting to what does he was on prime video January seventeenth. Okay to ported. It's called sounds very controversial. Not really we Russell toweling off. Hey Buddy how the shirtless Russell. I like it adds about to put on a hat and everything. Let's make this a freak show man. I'm taking my shirt thank you. I won't pay off now. Everybody you take yours topless show. I thought this was the topless show Matt always topless skin bottomless show. Sometimes well unless I'm here then this as as when I was talking about Matty said I love that Dinnie does. That's what he calls me the true trained with Enzo I trained with him once at a seminar training. But you know he's he's a hard guy. The lockdown to train with. You'll be like my brother anytime and I call him like I got somebody set up for you there. I agree with you great. Yeah he said next thing you know. He's an Abu Dhabi. He's not Russell. How did you get started with Brazilian? Jujitsu I wanNA know that so. I started Like Ninety seven and with Carlos Newton. Let me throw my hat on. Like totally shot. I loved Machado Chato so I started doing Japanese Jujitsu. Oh in the nineties A friend of a comic friend of mine was doing Jitsu when he was teaching me. Stuff But WHO's teaching all standing up. Yeah so it's all the exact same moves it camara a take flip guy right over you can do it guilty in in standing guillotine and all that stuff and and then I went and trained with Carlos Newton couple times back then. Pioneer pioneer one of Canada's first right one of the first guys on the scene and he was he was a wild my first time Russell in a UFC. Let's see my first ever fight. You have shown E. Carter. UFC thirty one is when Carlos new call US calls Newton. Yeah Carl sorry I just as name call us. Newton ended up winning the welterweight title verse Pat military-age via Bulldog uh-huh choke the first time I ever did a bulldog joke in the U. of C.. You know what I mean. I learned that was then. There was the double knockout with him and Matt Hughes Matt Hughes Yeah that that was insane eight. What do you think about that? He got screwed on that. I mean they have. That was insane was so so. Let's explain what's going on. So what happened is Carlos Newton Ford idea and Iraqi to absolutely but not no no. It's a little different but little but a Do you WanNa say what happened muscle. You've probably been so Carlos was choking out Matt Hughes and and if you see the footage you see every single muscle on Carlos. Carlos is back with a try back and never seen back that muscular in my life. Yeah and money any picked up by my matt picked him up and slammed him while Matt was being choked but Matt when when Carlos hit the ground the impact knocked out Carlos but matt had already. You've been knocked out. So in Matt hit the ground. He was already knocked out. So it's like a double. It should've been a double. Ko So he had him when he was choking him. It was in a a triangle choke with his legs so matt with the power on them and they were up against the cage so when he went down the the slam knocked out. Call us like Russell said but matt was out. He was out where he goes. What happened? I believe it was John McCarthy. Goes you want one. It certainly EXAC- oh it he does. He jumps up like you did something. So it's hysterical. But our calls was such a stud. He has actually two fights with Mr Hans. Yeah yes there was one in one. You one wondering you lost one comedian. Russell is at somebody I know is just guy from Toronto. WHO's not Doing anymore. Yeah he just Kinda just Kinda fell out he just retired. He learned Japanese and he wanted to become a doctor. Okay so stand up is one of those things he just stopped. OPT offer was doing for a little while. Hey you're on Amazon prime. I think the only other guy I know who's on Amazon prime is gaffe again so it seems to me now. I think Brian Callans on their two. Oh stake they're taking really big. COMEDIANS and Amazon prime is is doing. These stand up. Specials was called deported on January seventeenth. How did they convince you to do it? Because you pretty much. Have your choice of where you can go at your special well. They didn't really convinced me. It was kind of like I started the The whole netflixing looking at like I was the first guy to do the straight to Netflix. Deal Oh you are and yeah I was the guy remember came into your show to promote it back then got. I'm so stupid. I should've jumped on that stock bandwagon back. Then I was a little bit and they've been doing a great job with it but it's really crowded over there. Yup and I thought it was time move onto to go somewhere else and give it a shot and maybe get some more promotion. If there's fuel you guys is there are more likely to promote individual specials. Yeah I mean they're. They're not promoting guys bigger than me and so I'm like well. What are they gonNA do for me? Nothing really you you mean. Yeah Yeah are you on the road at all now yeah. I'm in Toronto Right now promoting it I was in Orlando last week and I did seven shows so so when you travel you Jujitsu win or no. Do you have different places you stop all you know I want to when I was in Orlando. I tried to find people who go train with. Listen I hit up John Jack. 'cause that's why with now John Jack told me to go hit up a guy named Gaudino and and then Gorgino was in Australia and then everybody else. I didn't know anybody else. I of course Sunday night on the on the Sunday night show like magic people come to the show and like Hey am at American top team. Gene I'm a Brazilian top team. I'm over here I'm over Machaca. Raise Jim what would you come roll with us. I'm like you tell me on the last day in the morning you ever get a fear. The of running jumping into class and being like I want to gotTa Strangle Russell. Well that's Bekwai John Jack. I like. We're the KNUCKLEHEADS. I don't WanNa go with the KNUCKLEHEADS. I just WANNA roll. Learn Jujitsu. Maybe maybe get tapped out in a nice way before the guys who've gone for you. I haven't haven't had that happen yet but I could see it happening for sure. And how did you get linked up with the Great John Jock Machado so I was. I stopped doing Jitsu like in two thousand. What happened was I choke the guy out on the street any any passed out and fell face first into the ground blew and all his teeth fell out? I thought I'd killed him when I just I I thought I was. I thought I was this evil master. And it's like I'm never doing this again. I have to. You have to just give a little more than that now. What he's telling me he was heckling Ashfield? Here's why it was bad because I was standing on the street looks three. AM in Toronto's twenty years ago and two guys jumped go back one guy jumped on my back and jumped on the side of me. Like grabbed me from the side and I just swung my body and the guy in the side end of in front of me and I put him in a guillotine is and and as soon as I locked guilty I knew I had it and I'm screaming. I got your mother fucker. I got you and I guess he. It wasn't now but then the guy in my back jumped off and ran around the front row. Slow that's that's that's me and clan and I'm like Oh shit. His friends are yours. Yeah they were just messing around but my brain was like attacked only to fall on his face. Yeah when I let go I. I didn't realize how long I had the token force I was like okay. That's enough. He was leaning on me. He was on his knees leaning on me. And I'm like I stepped aside and he just fell face person on the ground up. Oh ooh that'll teach them with those fucking band pranks all that gets bad branding and I just felt awful after an academy to grand by the guy new teeth. I you still fans. Yeah Yeah Yeah worked. All we're cool. He hates bring it up. And I'm like don't sneak up on me anymore. Nasty knows his fault. Yeah I mean it is but I mean I kind of odid on the stroke. I think but doesn't feel good Russell. Now you don't have to be some Jiu jitsu champion or mixed martial arts experts but doesn't doesn't feel good that you feel that you can handle yourself that you know what it's like to get out from underneath somebody or you can strangle. Somebody doesn't feel it's an amazing feeling like I mean boxed amateur for nine years so that was always my forward thinking and then and then when I that's not something you can just just do it fifty years old anymore you can just go punch people in the Senate and Jujitsu so quiet and peacefully just like hey here we go good night sites. Are you ever in Long Island New York it was I. You know it's funny as I was at the I was at the Westbury last year. I was thinking and I wanna hit up Matt. I WanNa hit up Matt Sarah and go traveling with them. Jimmy give him my number pure Ma'am all right. You'll be Comoro knee Russell. I'm not that guy you know you have a great three time. Well no listen mad. I'm a blue belt with three strikes. I'm nothing yet. Well I'm saying I'll give you my home but we'll have fun fun. What Buddy? What's happened to blue purple after Purple Purple Purple and then Brown and black? But it's all about the journeyman. It's such a good time. I'll I'll tell you russell when I say about my school's Jujitsu in general like people don't gotta train with me but I love that they train. That's what I always try to Jimmy. Drain Course Ju. Jitsu specifically Automo- slowest Jitsu. It really does empower you. A guy there could be somebody that's unathletic and it could let them be able to defend themselves and their family early and that's what I feel very strong about so I don't if I make another champion great but died. I love doing that day in my breathing is so bad because my sinuses. And I'm going the third to meet with a specialist. I'm GonNa get my surgery again soon so hopefully I can get my breathing. Situated Green Work will listen. I got bad breathing to Jimmy. I got a I got a broken nose for press thirty years from boxing and I didn't know it at the time breathing. I was get yelled at for breathing. Breathe I agree quieter. Well Jimmy's also got something else called excuses. I do have excuses Jimmy. I also suffer from the House and I just want to empower my my friend and I WANNA take but I'd run on a breath sometimes. I'm like Jesus Christ how would I do on a Jujitsu Matt. If I can't breathe just sitting here you know you don't know until you try you WanNa try I know Caitlyn's Kagan has been shaming. She's correct I seen her last night at Sarah J. J. a attacking people he did yes I did. She's looking great man. Yes take fights seriously. Caitlyn Kagan yes. Sorry listen what got you. You've been watching for how long since the beginning since. UFC Two because one was never available. So I've been watching since two and you hope I'm seeing your entire career unfolded even pride. I was watching you. That's so that's so crazy. Crazy never fought in pride but listen I went over there. I was watching it but I was watching over there. What is supposed to fight? The Guy got lit up in flames. That's a whole other story. The Guy Walked on a pyrotechnics. I told you that Gary Goodridge back in the day how is he doing. Okay that guy now listen to me. Thank God for Jitsu you gotta learn you know you. Don't WanNa keep you. I waited to end my career Russell to start throwing the sledgehammers before I do Jujitsu bum rush but had some nice hands on you to bless hands. I'm not hyping implicit heavy hands here. Italian you guys have hands. It's true I can't we now. I feel I can't wait to train what Russell. Yeah that's literally one of my goals during learned with the train with John Danaher. Great I can make that happens though Hickson. I would love the row with. I would love to learn to make myself that I hold. I don't give a shit. Why talk to Hicks in Hough on your little I got high Hickson looked up to him? Coming up was I. I went to a seminar. He did and and look he's teaching. The seminar comes around. Just lift your arm. Make sure you're doing your thing right and then at the end I take a picture and I put my arm around him. I I just pretend lift. My hip almost killed me Shit Russell. Yeah sure I have a smile. And they're gonNA hey and then he goes. I got and I was like. Oh sorry. Sorry he takes them. What we we had him on? I think we had Hanzel in studio and he was. That's right yes. Yeah he's the greatest that ever was where is he. He's in Cali California. I believe they. Do you have any gigs in New York. Are you going to be in New York at all not anytime soon. I think something offer came in. I am not sure if it's happening in July maybe joy. Hey have you. Here's a I do you know what's his name be be a lesser than his. Name is Do you know him from the Saudi Royal Family NBA NBA. I wouldn't say I know that's for sure I don't know now. I know who he is. Met Him if he if he was a good egger. No I'm mad at me was a nice guy. He was nice to me. But I mean you know. That's I mean everybody's GonNa be nice. I era when they meet you. My goal in life is to tour with Russell an open forum to dirty. I probably can't there's too many locations I would love that the my audience would be like What's going on right now? They probably wouldn't care for it but he just he flies you first the best gigs ever. You'd have to change your whole routine Jimmy. I know all I can too. I'm too old to change. You can't thing and then to me. It's disrespectful because Jimmy like a solid a-list headliner and he's a degenerate. That's a new splash Russell. Jujitsu questioin top player. God player your preference. I I I don't mind. Let's here's the funny thing about Jiu. Jitsu Matt Jimmy. When you talk about it sounds so gay Russell for a guy? That's a clean comic. He it can be certainly politically incorrect and get away with that choice. I love it you know. Here's my here's my game at solid the bottom player you. You're right to guard yeah. I'm I'm pretty good in the guard John. Jack made sure that he made my my guard game solid he mistake. 'CAUSE I I'm good with pressure on top. Yes he said I need to. I need to be better on the bottom. So He's been making me do bottom for the past year and now when people are on top of me I I can i. It's hard. It's hard to pass me. You're not gonNA pass me. I fucking like that. How often do you train when I'm home every day? All you do look at that. Were you go in the afternoon for private lessons classes I do both. I'll do essays available for private. I'll do it otherwise. Sit in the class. I don't care anymore. You don't mind I mean he's he's learning from one of the best ever John and I guess that's Malibu Los Angeles nizing as in Tarzana. I'll tell you you like spoiled now. Yeah you go anywhere else you you you learn from John. You'll learn from like one of the Machado brothers. I started with Hagan and then he gins. Trainings are too short and too infrequent. So then I I called he. Can I go listen. I need to do this more. Is it okay if I go to your brother. And here's a column that's also man and I'm so happy you're training raining and I'll tell you right now. Two things are going to be definite in the future one. We'll be training together and to don't you'll ever be touring together. Jimmy probably not I mean. Listen Nuno's maybe Jimmy find. God is luckily enough as act Jimmy. Don't find him he's it's not anywhere no I know I found shut the door in my face. I love it all right. Listen you're specialist. Russell Peters deported. It's it's on Amazon prime video as of January the seventeenth. So congratulations and I imagine you'll be in the clubs working out a new our and then back on the road in theaters again. I I'm I'm already on the road with working. I'm already working. Hey my act like you Jitsu. It'll get you to sleep in about twelve all right Russell. Pitas you talk anybody rolling man I love it I love thanks for having me guys in Jimmy and Matt Matt. It's a real honor to talk to you and Jimmy. It's always an honor honor to talk to you. Assume talking to you. Thank you take you up a nice guy. I feel like I know I feel like I. See what Bruce Buffer a lot like he legitimately early love to you know. I think he's friends at all the old school rappers like Mellie Mell and all those guys you know I I was gonNA say yeah. When you're in Long Island you could chicken chicken chicken check out? Good show Jimmy wanted to plugs. Yeah so sorry for the last eight seconds. I wish I had been in black forgetful stick where I could just make you forget that I just did that. Jimmy I apologize to you and I apologize to all of you have see on buildings oldest ears. We should apologize. Anybody who the IRS. Sorry about listen. I'm going to be in no Wilbur theatre on April the fourth. They've added a show April third foxwoods in Connecticut. It gets come see me. Do you know what I'm doing this for Jimmy. I ask you fucking what I tell you. Got Pictures of my wife is what I do. And then I send the pitches. You're so cute. She's stopping ugly ugly. There's nothing to do with anything but listen to me. January twenty fourth off live to be New York Comedy Club. I know what you're thinking what I'm going to be doing my new material. I don't have a theory. It's S. C. N.. Live live with my buddy Christian off Cape Mulligan. Comic rb three. I don't know if he's a comic. He's a funny guy. Listen Andrew Guyau how did you see what was their La- says Gee I repeat it. You're not going to say it. Listen to me. It's in the East village. Listen I don't have a good time why I'm going to be talking about stuff. Like Star Wars Jamie. Don't judge me because you might say to. What fucking fucking Pussy? But meanwhile opposite of a pussy dangerous man. 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#1308 - Eddie Bravo

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#1308 - Eddie Bravo

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We went we went nutty for a little bit. But we got it back on track. Please give it up for the great and powerful. Mr. Eddie Bravo. Good experience. Joy. Podcast by. My brother. Good to see you, as always who is going to send thanks for jumping in this short notice for the folks who don't know. I was supposed to have Kevin Leong today. But Kevin tonight we fucked up. It was partially. My fuck up partially his fuck up. We'll be on Wednesday. Ibra was in the neighborhood getting pumped my friend getting getting solid. You've been lifting the weights. How steady are you lifting now? I try to get three days a week, but shit gets crazy. Sometimes. And I can only get two two to five. Stop for just a couple of weeks. I start at fifty one just start getting so weak even on TRT. Everything starts slip in. He bought he's like, no, we don't need to be lived in shore is fuck. I've been I've been rolling with little people the last few months, like what kind of little people hobbits. I wish shifts them up. Do you think so? I think Harvard's would be extraordinarily strong. The Harry feet, you're probably have a lot of like some kind of, now man, I bet their feet or fucking so strong can never foot lock. It'd be seen the size of the heels have giant heels. But I bet there, ligaments and shit are different. You know, weird because the they're all bear. This is weird about the hobbits, right there. Barefoot thing furry ass feet have giant feet because, you know, obviously they had to wear those those feet over the shoes. But even in the books didn't didn't. Did they said they had big hairy those books? Yeah. Tom, holy shit out of that easy toehold. Right. Maybe maybe my thinking is if they're feeder that hairy, they oh, Jesus Christ. What happened to that lady? Don't do this to me Jaime. This is the podcast. And I that's through someone's got. It was gout inflammation. Oh man. It's real. Did you think that was a hobby picture? Oh, that's hilarious. Oh my God. Google image got you again. Isn't that? That's an algorithm. That's the Russians. So trying to fuck with this show. No. That is bunions. First of all, that's painful thing that happens to your big toe. Some of its genetic and some of it is putting your toes into pointed shoes for like long periods of time. Like people have to go to work like ladies particular. They wear like super uncomfortable shoes at smush their toes up like that. You're onto us be like that. I've seen this thing on Instagram where they could fix that bands. Yes. Well, the real well the they have yoga toes. There's some shit that you use you can shove your feet in between these like styrofoam things stretches out, apparently that's supposed to be good for him vibrant shoes is good. Let's I run in. Those can sued or something they did get to propaganda a bunch of pussies. Really? Yeah. Bunch of you know, I used to learn to. Yeah. Look man. They're they're harder to run in noble. She'll good though. I like I like them. But once you grip, the ground all that she came out that they were like. Oh, that's not what it is. I think they had made improper claims if I'm not correct me if I'm not correct, if I'm correct. If my information is correct. I think they made improper claims. I think that was what the word was. The word was that they had said some shit in the people got injured like they said it would keep you from getting injured. It's all based on side deer that you're supposed to run barefoot. Yeah. They said Mexico. Yeah. In Mexico, like fuck you, we got throws, but those guys up in the mountains that they're talking about in that book born to run. I feel like they have some of them made their own shoes, with like tires like they cut tires made their own shoes and running like a hundred miles up there, something crazy, like that? Like they have insane Durrance, and they live up in that mountain, and they just run around. Oh, speaking of Mexicans one of the main reasons you here. I wanna talk to you, because you're my favorite Mexican and now we have a Mexican American heavyweight champion of the mother fucking world. That's crazy. How crazy said it's insane. Akiva, mexico. He's crowd. I didn't know Mexico had a heavyweight boxer. Oh my God. And rues. The shit. He is shit. He's what America needs right now with all this border wall crisis shit and heavyweight champion. It's mexican. Yeah. Come on son, and one that's fucking good and one that has a big belly. Henny knocks out a dude who looks like. He's chiseled out of granite. I mean, no one has ever had a better body than Anthony Joshua. You've only had a different body. No one's better body. He's like, what is he like six seven or some shit? I don't mind to Anthony Josh was the one of the best built heavyweight boxers of all these, the Jit. He was a champion all that Olympic gold medalist the champ knocked out Wladimir Klitschko. I mean he's a fucking monster from the UK from the UK. Yeah, he was the champ, and he was supposed to fight. Big baby Miller, and big baby Miller tested positive for the Mexican supplements. Ironically enough, boom. That's anthony. Joshua. I mean come on son. How tall is he? Because he's gigantic. We've got a twelve pack because Andy Ruiz looked short in that fight six six shit. Yeah. But releases like six to he just looked tiny when he's standing next to Joshua, Josh was a giant of a man and just fucking Jack. What does it say as waitlisted us to forty nine to forty nine I wonder if that was for the last fight, because I'm sure with a giant dude, like that varies back and forth? But so I was out to dinner and I get a text from Brennan job, Brin chop. Hit the spoiler alert, he said fuck, Joshua got knocked out and I was like, no I go what happened. And he goes, you got fucked up in the seventh round Mexican and he goes, I'm sick. I go, you're sick. Go him happy as fuck. I, I couldn't wait to come home and watch it. I love when crazy shit happens. This is my favorite thing in fights, look at that guy Libby rea no disrespect champ. But he jokes about it himself. I'm trying to get him in here to L. That'd be cricket as body. I mean it looks like a regular dude. What if he got shredded how much anyway why would he wait could get shredded? No. But if he might be a middle, I would feed them on the sneak tip. I'd wake them up in the middle of the night. But some great Mexican food that do needs to stay exactly how you see look. He's got muscles under there, like look at his stomach. He's just got some body fat on them. But here's one thing. If you do have great cardio, one thing that body fat can do is it can protect you somewhat. It's like wearing eight sweaters of joked around about this before. And people think I'm bullshitting and I kind of am a little bit because I know most of the impact gets in there. But if you were gonna fight a guy and right before you fought him he puts on a vest made out of fat in meat and stitches, it up, and it sticks out, like fucking ten extra inches. He'd be like, hey, what does all this? What are you doing? You can't put that on. And then if you hit them to the body, and he barely. Reacts. You'd be like fuck. I can't believe this guy's cheating with this fat vest. Think about that shit. You have good cardio, and you've got some fat around your gut that shit might protect you. Look, Daniel Mia fade, or we'll get fade or who dealing with these giant dudes giant dudes who can fuck you up with one shot. There might actually be an advantage to having a gut, and that's not bullshit at all. It's not ideal in the lower way class back guts. He brought back packs. I'm thinking of grown, my own the how great healthy barely hanging on tyrod chicks only dated dudes with guts, that could be the new thing. Yeah. Did you kidding? Did you see that, that gif on Brennan shops page of DJ colleague? Is his name. Who's a big fellow himself climbing out of a golf cart with a shirt openly, let me show, you that I don't want to read the caption. See my problem with share in this is I want to know who the fuck made this because it's really funny. I wish I knew the due to give him credit, you know. Oh, it says it there the creator of the, the gift, can I sit? Yeah. Put it up on their forum. Jim hold on. James teams ghetto might be a problem copyright issue. Somebody might have stolen from somebody else. You gotta talk in the microphone people. Somebody else someone. Okay. Look at this, all the big meant all the big men headed to brunch with their shirt open today after the edge agrees. He's bringing back guts, do that would be a man dude. He's super friendly. We like really nice guy. Thanked his mom told his mom after the fight, you know, we don't have to suffer anymore. We this is changed our lives. You know it's beautiful. It's pretty the last I mean, I was, I was crazy into boxing before I saw you have see to once I tell you have to I kind of just drop boxing. But I was in a boxing had stacks of ring magazine all over my answer. Wouldn't throw them away. I was way into it, and all we had as Mexicans in the heavyweight division was Alex Garcia, remember him? Yeah. He was he, he broke the top ten he was up there for a little bit. But he just, you know, that's, that's the closest we ever got unless there's been someone else since then this is like nineteen ninety Avin followed boxing at all. Well, that's why I was big for a Mexican Americans when came Velasquez was UFC heavyweight champ. That was the first ever Mexican heavyweight champ in combat. Sports. Right in my correct. Yeah, it's weird though in MMA people aren't racist in MMA, really as much as boxing, the really like boxing. I'm always going for the Mexican. I don't. I don't give you know. Yeah, we talked about this. But in. Jitsu guy. I don't care what nationality or an MA or I go for the I want. Well, like like if someone's fighting Melvin manhole, I don't necessarily want Melvin man hope to win, but I definitely want to see Melvin men go Melvin manhole fund somebody, you know what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah. You know, watching certain guys watching guys that are known for their knockout power. And I like watching those guys to even if they're fighting jujitsu guy, right? I don't want them to win and. That was why was it was it Ocoee? No, it wasn't was it? No. It was who was was it Yoshida who beat Melvin man who hoofing, arm Bardem? I think it was your knock Yama. I think it was occupied. I think akiem I think sexy. I'm fond with a on. I don't remember who fought Melvin man who've in pride. See if it was Melvin man who versus Akihabara? Wondering K I. Yeah. Sexy m you could say sexy alma who killed him sexy on me. It was it. She Avello Michael chevelle. And he, I don't know who, who named him, sexy Obama. Oh, no. He wasn't doing. He wasn't doing pride, right? He was in Japan. But how I don't know if it was dream. No. No, no, no. Yeah. Well he does one now. And he was doing. He was doing all the shit on access TV, you know, he was doing a lot of shows Pat militants. He's doing a lot of different things. But he also does a lot of Moi tie to you'll see here echinacea. You got him when the semester heroes about that one. Oh, that was the K one motion. Right. I think so while. Crazy. How much the sport has changed and just in time you and I have been watching it. Yeah. Dinner from when you and I met in the ninety s when we're doing jitsu and you were purple belt. I didn't miss shit back then I, I was on top of every goddamn MA find now. I'm just like I'm lost. There's so many promotions, though. Now it's impossible, so many you have seas. And it's it's hard to keep track. And I don't have time to keep track. Everything streaming love, like where is it? He has penned applic-. How do I watch this once you'd get it on though? Once you figure it out. And once you get it works. And once you get in at works. Everything is shit ESPN app. Yes, you can get your phone and I saw Schill for the company now say for them, and then I'm not. But I'm saying, like for me like when I watch fights, it's pretty fucking easy. Once you get hooked up. The problem is people that don't have TV hooked up to the internet, which is quite a few fucking people. And then you've got to watch it on a laptop. That's not ideal your phone. That's not deal. I'll do it, though. But that's the good thing about it as I've done that, like I've been out and I couldn't go to see a fight. I couldn't watch walls at home, but I have like an hour where I could sneak away and watch like one main event. Yeah. And I'll get to watch it on my phone. I'll take chat all day. I'll take that all day. Yeah. What about, like, what's that functioned MIR? Is that what it is where you shoot it up to the TV? Yeah. From your phone that's dope. You could do that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. If you have apple TV. If you have apple TV or if you have Amazon, what does that fire stick? Is that what it is Jamie? Do you remember? Chrome cast, also chrome cast, and there's probably a few other ones, you could probably do that with two, but they have like a USB slot. I think and you just stick this thing in the USB slot. And is that might say that you don't even need depending on when your, your TV, right? Built into it now a lot of chrome things, which is interesting, right? It's like, what if a new company comes along, and they wanna get built into that? That system out of they because when you get your TV does your TV have the option to get net flicks mine does. Yeah, it's like you don't need an apple TV. It's like one of the. No, no, no, no. On my TV. I've set up. You haven't TVD. It's like I got it like in two thousand six or something damn. So you've got to upgrade. Yeah. Yeah. To upgrade is still a flat TV's health. Like Ben you need it to. I'm going to go school, and I'm going to start riding a bike and getting around TV when fucked up Davies with a dark in the corner boxes. Bagel box, put stuff on it put stuff on land to shelf to the first time I got a TV. I got like it was a big ass TV like my first TV that I bought when I got on television, it was like thirty inches or something like that. So I look at the size of this fucking tvos giant like from here, new years, that big, and I remember sitting stupid hunting inch. I remember sitting the stupid thing on the floor, and it had to be so far away from the wall, because there was all this extra shit bind, it was like tubes and stuff, and bazookas. There's like the wires and everything and this big box and fans and stuff remember bulbs, there was would be bulbs them. They'd have to change the bulbs, and it make your TV brighter. Remember that? He don't really know the mechanics behind the TV, I just turn them on. And then breakdown and kinda cheap nowadays, too crazy cheese crazy. We were just talking about that out there, how much like TV for ten years ago would cost. And now it's like the same TV's like couple of hundred bucks. Yeah. Ten years ago. It was like ten thousand fifteen thousand like I remember when I first moved out, I little, you know, everyone starts with their little black and white little boxes. You know what I mean? You put on clothes hanger in for the antenna and the first TV I got a nineteen age color, TV. She has like three hundred bucks. I saved forever for but man that was my pride and joy. Yemen, Notre magin living in the days before TV when they first invented it was all radio. It was radio theater and movie theater, just I. Right. Not wrong that, right? Yeah. How much after the movie theater did the television get like well year was the TV. I think the fifties, that's when it came in the TV came in the fifties. Yeah. Pro, that's not that long ago thinking about how much dominates people's time. Yeah. The first TV started appearing homes in the late twenties early thirties. Oh shit. I think color is when those like the fifties or so late twenties on how many TV's had homes in the fifties only nine percent of American households had TV's in the fifties wanna ten rich folks while. Magin just being alive. Back then, when those things started happening being some, some do things way, way, ahead and looks at this, the whoa. Where's this gonna go people? Fifty years are going to look back at this time and go shit. Remember when people used to actually open their eyes. We're going to be like some kind of matrix, for sure. Member when people lived real life to went outside the stupid, Arken, dummies were so lucky we could live anywhere. You know, when VR get so good that you actually can just live any life you want. You know, it's inevitable. Yeah, they're, they're, they're getting closer and closer to if you look at what we would have seen if we're person living in nineteen twenty when they turned on that first TV. We what was that, like those people probably in awe. They probably thought. Oh now now they can't lied to us on the radio. Now, we'll get the truth in our living rooms now, we got finally, we got the truth to get to see what's really going on in the world. Lease bro the nineteen points. You know what they thought you know, just give me something to look at. Yeah. When you love to go back and talk to someone from the twenty nine. Guys. Know how boring was live. What did they hop scotch and shit like that, and jump rope after a while that just seemed like so much fun? Yeah. Reading books and shit member horses. No-one people read books. I rarely ready. I get almost ninety percent of my reading. I get done with audiobooks ninety percent. Yeah, that's way easier. Yeah, it's great to do while running to like it. Does two things at the same time it gives me some shit to think about the kind of like propels me while I'm running don't they do to worry about getting jacked Woody mean getting cat by a cat to worry about that, man. Yeah, I worry about that legitimately. I've been hiking more than ever lately. And sometimes, we're on some trials or have a rock ready to go. I carry a knife. It's a good move carry night. When I run to good. Yeah, it's not likely it's not likely people go McCall. You're paranoid, two people were killed by mountain lions last year and a kid got bit by mountain line. Just a couple of days ago, Jamie. I'm getting over cold folks from if I signed snotty, but. If two people got killed by where wolves. Would you go out when the moon afoul? You would like fuck that, if two people in Seattle got killed by where wolves when there's a full moon, you're going to lock your fucking doors and my in Seattle, and I go out. Gotta wear might in Seattle. Well, the guy who's the werewolf could have gone on a plane and went to San Francisco. It's totally possible. Right. Or just walk. But if you knew there was a real where wolf, there was on the full moon was possibly going to kill somebody. Sometimes he didn't. Sometimes a full moon comes and goes, nobody dies. Because everybody's smart. They all stay indoors. Yeah. Yet, for sure you stay out of the, you know, the odds would be astronomical just like like jaws. I you know, if you get dropped in the middle of the ocean, you know, this guy, it'll take this guy has a fucking mountain line. That's what is that. That's not an outline. That's like that's a domestic cat that Bob cat that looks like a cougar. Exa. No. That's a domestic cat. See those ears. It's like a really wild domestic cat. What is it called? See Gary shit. See it's. It his, his at them. The guy might be a dick. The guy doing that fucking with that cat might be a dick. He's trying to get it to his. I guess they have a good relationship. It looks like those, those two to look at that this holy shit. Then is a for what kind of animals not lynxes it. I dunno to Stu doesn't the video doesn't say what it is crazy. I saw links in real life, once crazy looking like a big these big giant fluffy feet. Assam up in Alberta. Pay weird crazy feet like almost like they're wearing shoes. Very strange, looking cat like a bagel furry cat in the woods in Canada. So strange man. You look at you. Like what the fuck are you? You ever see links? Yes, I'm not too. Sure what the difference between a lynx and a cougar. That's what I saw. I saw one of those mother fuckers I was like what is enough here, bro? They're super hairy, because their cats. That's what it's like that one the long legs right there. Jamie. That's exactly what I saw, and it was in the snow to or on it was. Not in the snow route. It was it was in the forest floor like green, too, and they the feet are designed so that they can move quickly over snow. They, they almost act as snowshoes like soda wolves like wolves have big ass feet, and they spread out. That's what it looked like we were driving down the road. And we saw that guy on the side of the road. I really like why is what the fuck. It's so weird to see one in real life. You see it at the zoo. You wouldn't even look at it he'd pass by age. He with the fuck is looking Tigers at whack ass little cat, and the crazy polar bears. But if you see it in the woods, man, it's like the greatest thing you've ever seen in your life. Like, wow. Look at it. Look at it like a porcupine. If I see a porcupine, I'm driving. I'll stop my car like that. What are they still do they really shoot the Donal? They don't shoot us. You know, they don't shoot them. No. No, no, no, no. Do pork. You don't shoot him. They don't shoot him. That's a myth. They just have barbs. So if you buy them, you get stuck up, how crazy is that everyone thought that growing up like an eighties? They shot you with thorns kids fucking live, probably told their dad. He shot him dead in a cartoon or something. Yeah. That's possible too. Right. Like everybody thinks coyotes are stupid. Yeah. Like jaws. You know, joss pretty much scared ninety five percent of the population. I don't know. Shen. Oh, yeah. Out of the ocean. Well, the other guys. So Scott, Jack you heard what the guy that just got checked quite right. Yeah. You get well, they don't know what kind of shar got him. But got bitten Maui. I think Maui. That's a lot of tiger sharks, right? Yeah. Surfer surfer. No, I think it was a guy staying at a resort swimming guide. Dead is fought. John, his body. They got him. I mean they brought him back to the beach, but he had horrific wounds. He died just happened just happened sharks are no joke. It's terrifying. Animal. And again, if there was a fucking wear wolf running around the woods. And aware. We'll just killed the guy last week. Would you go to the world? Yeah. It'd be just like jaws. They had it on the news now would go. But the thing is that sharks are sharks, twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. They don't only on full moons, become sharks. So what about what about guys that say that? That's totally blown on a proportion. Right. They swim with sharks. They get in the in the ocean with sharks. Right. The right. I think the great wide is the only one that I the divers those crazy divers don't get in the water with right? But I think there was a lady that swam with a great white. Yeah. There's pictures of heck. Right. We we're were looking at her Instagram page once young Jamie to remember that lady. Is it a trick? Like she knows things. She knows if it's pregnant, you could go swim with it or something, you know, like this video's of, of babies playing with king cobras, and then you, you find out that they defend them, right? So they're they can't hurt you at all take away their venom sac to think that if they have a thing I might have made that up on them sack is that a real thing so real nut sack, but it sounds like. Sharked tag Brunswick, the shark. It's an eight foot nine inch white shark that's been just recently spotted yesterday or today, I guess, in oceans outside of ocean city, Maryland. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They this is the way it's Twitter account works. They like it speaks in the first person. What if it kills somebody? I'm sorry, he was tasty. They still going to keep up the Twitter account if we, we know that shark killed somebody. Look, if it gets hunger enough. All these assholes are overfishing the oceans, you over-fish the fuck out of those oceans. Eventually, they'll sharks. They're gonna turn each other. You know that's what's happening with snakes and the Everglades. Do you know about that, too? You'll know about the Everglades. Nope. Anaconda pythons and ship mostly pythons because do TATA's pets and then they go and either finding them. Now, they're seventeen eighteen feet long and a condos are pythons shit. They're eating alligators. They did a study. They video that. Oh, yeah. They're photos of it. And there's video there's video you can watch them eating alligator, and Florida in Florida, God down there giant, and they're they're infested. So they did like a biological survey of the Everglades, and they were down, like ninety nine percent in some animals, like deer ninety nine percent. Marsh hair? Like like ninety eight percent ninety five percent raccoons that kinda shit anything. Are they killing people to all the? They for sure some fucking rednecks have disappeared. And they just don't guarantee a guarantee a guarantee I go if she wanted to get rid of somebody man, take him to python country. Are they are they your population to these snakes much? She can do if you ever seen the Everglades easy to set up traps to you kidding show JR. Show any Beverly young James says with that kind of shit by there's too many of them fifty thousand of what snakes. Yeah, there's over a hundred thousand pythons. Yeah. How did they count? They have rough estimates based on corn quadrants so like what they'll do is, they'll take like inside, not it's not one hundred percent accurate unless they tag all them in which case, they're assholes issues, just killed them. But if you because they're an invasive species for people don't know they're not from Florida at all. So they're just devastating ecosystem and they're turning on alligators. They're eating alligators now because they basically run out of everything else to eat, it's, it's a crazy fucking animal. So what they do is, they would take, I would guess, like a chunk of the Everglades one hundred square yards or something like that. And they'd. Measure the amount, and then they would do another one, they would they would do it like several places, and then taking average and then calculate all the square footage. And that's why there'd be pro or con you would think hundreds of people would have been killed already know because I don't think that many people first of all go in there and I don't think they want to eat people. I think they probably don't know what the fuck person is where they see a rabbit, or some other shit that probably looks like food people are wearing clothes. I'm just guessing I know they do Jack people though overseas, there's been horrible videos of guys getting cut out a giant snakes. You never seen that. I've seen that. That's crazy. Yeah. Some poor villager woman, missing to find the snake and ago we found they know they can this motherfucker bounty, hunter kills gargantuan Burmese. Python gets three hundred seventy five bucks in and earns are undying. Gratitude sizes dude, seventeen and a half feet. So these things Florida wha what like like Everglades wherever the Everglades. The Everglades is a giant ask Gulf side, middle like the, both sides, kind of depending like a big swamp plan show, Eddie, an overhead view of the Everglades because the Everglades are fucking bananas. One thing that they've found that was interesting. Yeah, that shit. Yeah. So that all that stuff is Dern done swamp. That's just monster soup. The tip of the dick of Florida is monster soup. That's what that is. You got some leaves. You got some basil. Fucking snakes. You got some grass, you got some shit grown out of the ground, and you got fucking alligators and snakes in aliens vs, predator battle to the death empowered how Joey described the Everglades. Listen cock sucker. These fucking thirty white people with this, thank you all you wanna fuck and snake what are you, your own a wiccan? Get the fuck out. The guy kicks his fucking kid out of the house to kid can't feed, the snake next thing you know, monster soup. I mean, it really is down to these two superpredators battling it out to the death. And right now I mean I don't see any pictures of alligators eating pythons. Do we have video of alligators eating pythons three eating each other? Okay. So I guess it's just good. At least everybody's eating everybody. He's got a hold. Dear and its bodies this Florida. Is this the same article Jesus Christ, man? They can swallow a whole deer that is so nuts. They're not even as wide as us imagine being as wide as a person, and you could swallow whole. Dear says it, it had a thirty five pound white-tailed fun. And it was eating one hundred and eleven percent. Oh eleven point one percent. I know one hundred and eleven percent. It was thirty one pound snake eating at thirty five pound. Dear oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah. They don't give a fuck. I didn't read that part. Oh my God. That is so ridiculous. Yeah. They can eat their whole body weight. But you ever see that you've seen that we've showed that video of the frog or it was a frogger at toe? That eight the mouse. The mouse is bigger than him, bro. He's fucking eats. It. He just I didn't know that toads did that. I had no idea this video. There's like the little while white mouse is in this cage, just like looking around with this frog and this frog just like slowly comes close to them. Slowly comes closer and then swap says half his body and you see this mouse, trying to kick and get the fuck out of there and the frog just like slowly. Just choke some down. Insects. That's what I thought too. The they figured it out. See if people believe in evolution. Right. I believe in evolution. If people believe in evolution. Why do we think it stops with us? Why don't we think these guy damn frogs gonna take over? Maybe like one of the first the first signs of it was this peppy the frog controversy on the internet. It's shots fired. Thanks to come. These frogs are gonna start eating meat and the Trump frog. Maybe these frogs are eating meat. That's what's going on smarter. Pepe the frog with was that around before Jamie. What is this, Jamie? Oh, I've seen this has, it's about this Knicks. Yeah. A cat. The cat comes over to supply. Like the fuck and snake cats are ruthless bro. Cats are ruthless. Just a compilation of frog shit. Well, there's one that's like super specific that I found on. That might be his hand to stuff that worm look at this one. Here's one it's oh, they're only showing part of it. It's just it's a bunch of shit. Like, what we he gets that whole mouse in his mouth down. This isn't even the same one. So there must be multiple videos of I guess, that's a toad. Is that a frogger tot-? I honestly do not have the difference in that one. But I think frogs are like green. Frogs live in water. Right. And toads hang out on the, the grass. Right. I think they. When I was, in Costa, Rica, the first night, I was, I was in, I went with a bunch of friends, and they had this mansion dude, right there in the Jones, we talked about the and, and the first night, I doused my whole, I knew the bugs we're gonna come out that was when we got them like, oh my God, I'm going to get attacked by bugs. So I doubt I went to the neighborhood storm, but all their off and just use it like I'd moose all over my body. And we sat we were sitting as the sun set, we were at the pool, there's, like ten of us at the pool and as the sun was setting all these frogs just appeared out of nowhere. It was scary. And the guy that lived there that trust me, don't be scared. They can be your friends. But what do you mean? Trust me, we're going to need them and go for the bugs he goes. Yes. So on the sarcoma, bam, we're, we're we're at a pool in this Jay Z tight mansion at a pool in the middle of the jungle, and there's all these frogs everywhere. And then the bug started coming, you never saw the same. Bug twice. And he was like, Braveheart dude day were all these frogs. You just see them attacking these blogs. It was it was like a, a war. It was crazy clogs lost the bugs law frogs, Jack like like those white walkers do they fucked them up to. That's an amazing. Very entertaining was very entertaining. We're just sitting there going holy shit. Get those bugs fuck those bugs. Why doesn't someone make a documentary about that? It's crazy. The war, the daily war in the jungle when the bugs come out fucking, frog Z bugs and frogs. What a what a weird place to choose to put a mansion when I get you want to be able to scream, and I can't learn one thing I learned about that trip is there's the people that like that shit, or the, the people that will like they'll see a tarantula and pick it up and go and try to scare you with it in the fuck, and eat it or whatever you have to be one of those people like, you know, people like me, who are scared of bugs. I I'm not a jungle guy, I'm snow guy. I wanted. I just went to Lake Tahoe. We went to squat valley. That's my shit snow too, cold for any bugs the jungle, if I never go to another jungle ever, I wouldn't give a shit at horrible time that the last time I was in a Diane count, how to similar story about when he was trying to be a bugged scientist. What was I call fuck just trying to be? And then Tamala just and he was hanging out in the in the jungle with these people. And they had to put turpentine on the posts of the, like the platform where the tents at the ants. Yeah. Because the answer would be marching through the jungle. Did you hear them walking you could hear them? Yeah, you could hear the ants. There's so many of you could hear him shoot who's fun jungle dude tangle. That's why if you have a choose between cold or, or unbearable heat comb. Yeah. The thing about cold is it's like you can get warm, you know, when you're hot you can't really get cool. It's hard, you can get cool in your house, but you could start a fire in your house. And you just wear warm clothes outside and you just live smart. It's like the challenges of it's interesting when you look at like population in the world. Because in this country is not the world. But in this country all the places where it's really cold population. It's limited like it's only gonna get so big when things like sweet real nice like special ick. L A do people pile in? But I guess New York's the argument against that because New York's Phoenix does opposite-sex super hot there melts, everybody who liked to party down there party. If you like to party, you go to Phoenix says, where I live, I live in Phoenix Open carry state, the fucking sheriff out pile makes everybody wear pink underwear. And pink jumpsuits shit's crazy. Think if you look at where people live, I think generally speaking white, people like cold and dark people like the heat it seems that way. Because if you look at the North Pole, which if you look at the North Pole looking down on it all the surrounding countries, they're all white, right? But you know why? Right. Because they want to be next to. They want to be close to the North Pole. So why wouldn't be saying? I stop. There's there's it's supposedly a magical place the North Pole. Well, it's because they don't get any vitamin d up there, because it's hot as fuck where they're from and sunny, whether from originally, and then as people migrated and got these northern climates their skin became paler, Impaler, like like a solar panel for vitamin d that's where you get it, you get it from the sun. So because they don't get much vitamin d because there's no fucking sun out. It's called shit. It's cloudy in England and Ireland and all these away really, really white. It's fucking cloudy all the time. It's Kohl's fuck. So you're not getting that vitamin d plus your whole body is covered and fucking minks an animal skins and shit. That's why they're all white all from the same thing. That's what's weird about it. But there's also some, some growing evidence that there was a whole gang of different kinds of people, they're finding these new Russian people called Denisovans. They found bones of them. So they think there was like maybe a bunch of other versions of human beings that we just lost in time. And then you're gonna probably find it as people get further and further in the DNA testing to find more and more different versions of people, and people, there's supposedly a alost empire in Russia called tardy ah for heard about that. No. Yeah. It's, it's supposedly a raced from all history for different reasons. I don't really know that much about it, but it keeps popping up on YouTube. If I was a juvenile. I would make a joke about the, the name of it tardy. Yeah. I'll make a joke. We'll just say, let's say some terrible, like what? Tardy ah. I can't think of any wonder why didn't make it. Okay, that guy Graham Hancock wrote that book. Did you ever listen to a podcast? I did with him recently. Not the recent one dude, he was talking about the Amazon and that hidden civilizations were at one point in time in the Amazon, and European settlers or European explorers, rather came there and gave them smallpox, and it burned through the entire fucking population, just like at burn through the native Americans, same deal and just wiped out, these huge cities, people just abandoned these huge cities, and he was saying that at one point in time, they think as much as twenty million people living in the Amazon, then they had these really big established cities. So now they're using this stuff called lighter. It's like light like laser that they shoot from fucking plane, and they make maps of the John cities find days dude. It's crazy. It's amazing to watch because the first European explorers when they went to the Amazon, according to grant Hancock in his book, which is called America before the first European explorers. When they came to. The amazon. They were like, oh my God. This is incredible. These they have these massive cities and sophisticated culture. And they wrote back about it then when people came back hundreds of years later, everything was gone. It was all just engulfed by the drunk oil because all the people died off after the fucking European explorers came, so the European explorers came, they spread their diseases. They came on how many boats over how much time they wrote things about it, and then everybody can died. They died like a just like a haunted, curse, like they brought a curse to a place. And then the jungle overcame the city and grew to the pillars of the floor and just took over and now they're finding it through all this new, sophisticated technology where they get scanned through the trees and just get images of what the, the ground looks like. And then they take this image of the ground, and you could see, these grids see buildings amazing rega- shins that they could survive in the jungle with all that fungus, and Syria. Viruses logs and all that shit. But smallpox takes them out. Smallpox Jack them. They weren't ready for it. They didn't have it was probably not a small holiday, probably a gang diseases that the I mean smallpox for sure killed a lot of people during that time, periods of the assume it was smallpox had small pox, most likely was one of the diseases, but I bet they gave him a bunch of other diseases to these fucking people had no immune system for any of the ship Europeans were running over there, just and I bet the same thing would happen if someone from there, went to, to Europe a bit. They have some weird parasites weird shit that if they could somehow I mean, I guess you'd imagine like people that live in the jungle must be exposed to certain parasites, or certain certain diseases or germs, that they don't get in Europe. Either for sure transferring back and forth doubt, probably wouldn't know like they went and visited like a giant ship full of Amazonian 's went to visit Europe. They probably have given them. Some strange disease. Dude. Can you imagine? I wonder if those guys. Brought anything back. I wonder if they got anything from the on people and brought it back, vaginal parasites, I'll daring. Believe you went there man. In the kind of sexual diseases. They add an Amazon, but they were immune to that Europeans were like, just dying hall. The funk management, everybody's small holes coral grown on their Dicks. There's no deal to rent. They probably didn't use soap and you've probably got used to it. You know, they say people are used to smells you get. That's why people that live in those towns where they have a factory and everything smells like chicken, shed or something like that. There's people get used to it or when you drive the four or five, and you pass by that Budweiser plant it's Nells like has that weird like almost fried fried food, or what is that you drive into San Pedro and it smells like the sewer. When you're on the seven ten or the one tennis. There's certain places. There's certain places where you, you like in New Jersey when I was a kid, I remember there was areas grow by that had factories. And you could see the fucking smoke coming out of the factory that we disputed, it would stink the whole fucking city would stink. And if you live there, you just had to accept that, you know, if you live there, there's no fixing that, that's just what the town smell bike. That was your reality. It's what do you think of? Five G and all that scare you that's terrified of all that ship scary because this, how much long-term testing, if they done zero or negative numbers. Dan handle off. They're putting is that what when when, when I'm driving around with my family. My wife is obsessed with recognizing plates. She's always calling on Florida, Oregon. She's her and my son. They got a little game. They play. They're always kinds of plates. I'm always looking at cell phone towers, and satellite dishes. Yeah. Yeah. All satellite dishes point to the southeast for some reason, or other. And that's what I always tell them. They don't point to the north in southern California's direct TV satellite. That's words all satellites, but every time it's pointing me for all consumer consumer satellite satellite dish that I've seen. I've I'm obsessed with their always point. They never point to the north, there, always running southeast all of the great majority of satellite dishes, that you see are probably like direct TV or one. I notice all of all of them, but you go it's crazy. I don't know why I don't know why. But also those cellphone towers, I was on this website called smart meters, murder dot com. Smart meters, murder, ten times I was trying to remember it. Smart meters, murder dot com. Dude, you wanna get your fucking head blown off, go to that website and read the documents that they're pulling from different agencies. Dude, scary when you're talking about scary, I we kicking install you know what you're going to have to go check. But it's like on five G, but back from back from their documents from government agencies right from two thousand one July two thousand one it it's like this whole. I don't know how big like four hundred page plan for the world. It's a plan for the world. They're talking about who wrote this plan, the way you're holding here, why you do it. It is quite a Larry is the perfect, like if someone was talking about a conspiracy theory, and they had a blunt, and they were just like in full bore conspiracy while they're holding the joints, so scary dude that I don't even wanna talk about it. Let's change the subject. You know, if you want to look into it, go to smart, meters dot com, smart meters, murder dot com. But it's scary. I have read wanna talk about it. I have read things where people are questioning the like whether or not five G is going to be healthy, but I haven't seen anything that verifies is, or it isn't I haven't seen anything that says, I need to look into a bit. But just in what I'm worried all told is that I really think that why fi signals all the various signals that surround us all the time. I think they have an effect on us, and I don't know what that affect is. I don't know if it's negative or positive. I don't know if it. It it, it does the senses. It's entirely possible that it does something to dull the census because it occupies an area. I mean, if we have the capability of recognizing the fact that they're that the signals around us all the time, cellular signals signals radio signals satellite signals were surrounded constantly by signals. Are we? Absolutely. Sure that our body doesn't have the capacity to recognize those signals, even though we don't have like a really clear method of taking those signals in, and then translating them into visuals or into audio, but because we can't like take that Sirius satellite signal and then and then have like a player in our head because of that we assume that we're not taking it in, in some way. That's what that's what this. Report or let me go is about. It's about betas. Why say this is why says because when I feel the, the least foggy is when I'm in the woods when I'm in the mountains when there's no cell phone service. There's no radio service is no wifi, there ain't shit. How satellites don't work when someone's in the woods, but no satellites do work. You could actually get in the worst show. Not knowing the worst, you get a dish, you put on the roof of your car. You could watch this new thing that Steve, Ella D'Arcy Leon's work on satellites. No phones. We're cell towers, put the GPS works on satellites. So your phone still works as a GPS unit when you're in the woods, even if you don't have your signal, so she could find your way out with a map, if your phone was on, you know, there's people that say the GS, the GPS GSP, the GPS is, also run by the towers to that don't need to go into space that you could triangulate your position from towers alone. But that will you probably could try triangulate your position from towers, but you couldn't broadcast is such a gigantic area like you can win satellites. You could see satellites, the people that think the satellites aren't real. They need to talk to somebody make satellites. They there there you could see them with telescopes. They're up there. We, we have the ability to tune in to the very specific spot in the sky with a direct TV and you'll pick up the signal. That's how you get the signal you tune to spot and sky with the satellite is, and you pick up the signal. The real people have a problem with fucking everything that's ever existed, everything. Everything's fake. Everything's fake. People think it is how many people think that we're living in a simulation really, really fucking smart people thinking, that's okay. Okay. That, that isn't crazy, too. That's the craziest thing about all conspiracy theories, like people that are not on that side. There's a conspiracy theory side. And then there's the people way on the other side, those mother fuckers are totally into man. We live in a computer that is hilarious. That's not logical illogical. Well, the, the, the reason why they think that is because some day there's going to be a program, but. Eight ready. Chew. It may be true. Maybe we do live in a computer. Right. But dude, there's no evidence. No, there's no evidence. These conspiracy theories of if you look into each one individually may, maybe it's true, maybe it's not. But there's actual evidence. Is it enough evidence to prove it one way or another who knows? But don't talk shit on. But it's not the same by government conspiracy. It's dude, I've never heard. I've never heard anybody like it's easy to categorize people like that no sane people to believe that, you know. No. Okay for sure. I haven't done any service serve as this is all based on the people that I come in contact with I, I, I would say, people, you know, eighty percent of my students Dennard or not conspiracy theorist. I don't even think of they're just like regular people. They don't they don't they don't concern themselves with. And you know what I mean, they think it's amusing that I'm into it, but they're not into it. You know what I mean? But those same people when you insecurity, you, you, you know, you must has that we might live in a computer and everyone's like it may be true, but to their zero evidence that we've fucking computer. What was the evidence? Where's the would it someone someone proposed some sort of theory that proves that life is a hologram wasn't a hologram life is a simulation someone proves you'd like to see that. I tried reading this book the holographic universe. But I, I didn't get into it. Maybe I should read thing. It's not sure I'm just saying there's that I know what I'm saying is it might not be the same fucking people that you're talking about that do or. Don't believe, but people definitely get rigid. It's cool to believe that you could talk. If you're like you Ilan must set it, it's, it's like a cool day. Wait on the way and just like, oh, yeah, we might live in a computer man. It's interesting. That's that's fascinating to me. I think the reason why they say that is because one day we will, and we all know it we all know it, we all know that one day you could be in something that's as ridiculous as what you're experiencing right now. And it could be a simulation. Yes. Yes. But they believe. Happen. Yeah. Well, he might not necessarily believe it, but they're entertaining the that's what the theory is. Yeah. But there might be my computer simulation. Yeah. I know what I mean. I know what might be living in a computer simulation. Yeah, maybe, maybe I'm not saying we don't I'm just saying dude, there's no evidence of the reputa- keywords might so to just explore an idea like, are we living in a simulation? It doesn't mean you nothing wrong with that. That's what I'm talking about. That's like a conspiracy to that should be one of the you should love. It's logical to lump that in with all those like nine eleven conspiracy. Like nine eleven for instance, there's lots of evidence that it was an inside job. But that's a crazy conspiracy to most people. But if you look into their scientific their science supports that it was an inside job was, but then science to splits that no other scientists seven disputed, for sure. But there's evidence right? I'm not saying whether it's true or not I'm just saying, I don't want to go into a nine one one inside job. My whole thing that I'm just using that as an example, like, as a, that's a crazy conspiracy theory. But there's a lot of evidence, whether it's true or not who knows you know what I mean. I think it was an inside job. But a lot of people don't and whatever, but there's zero evidence of us living in a computer science. We're not talking about the same people. They might not be the same people that believe one or the other. They're different lumping them together. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not I'm there are there different people, I know but the people that don't want to believe that and don't want to look at the evidence. I'm saying aren't necessarily the same exact people's that people to believe when relation you're right. I have there's no poll on it. I haven't taken a poll, I know to nine hundred one you just went. You wanted to talk about it. So you got us into it. That's, that's yeah. We don't have to have. I not eleven I would just using that example. I know what you're saying. Yeah. People believe we're Chit. They definitely have like like the people that really want to believe in Bigfoot, or the people that really wanna believe in UFO's UFO's are coming back right now, everybody's talking ever bigger than wrongdoer than average. I should tell you something day Foley's, hooked defoliate from News Radio member, Dave Foley. Hooked we text each other almost exclusively about UFO evidence to he. I know Menzies I was the big SIS New York Times a couple of days ago. Wow. What is that navy pilots report on? Unidentified flying objects. Here's the thing, though. We don't know what kinda shit. The Chinese have figured out. We don't know what kind of shit, the Russians have figured out. We assume that we know 'cause but we, we didn't let them know about the stealth bomber or any of the crazy shit that they were building area, fifty one we didn't let them know you know, me, I was both deep into the community my tat, the first tattoo I got his got an alien on my left arm in any Julian yard. I was always into fucking ancient Egypt. The conspiracy side of the ancient Egypt. There's the mainstream Egyptology I wasn't too, though. Oh, look with Graham Hancock is saying, and you F O's borrow fun. That's so fun. There's so much prove in my head. There was so much proof that the government was trying to cover up. Look the why they covering it up. Why are they covering looking all these guys? For pilots from the air force or saying, they saw you have both pilots from the navy or saying, they, you affords tooth from the Pentagon. It's gotta be that's a that's a at the CIA pilot. He's saying it. So when you're when you're balls deep, and you really want to believe it. You look at it that we don't like look. There's all these government officials say they saw UFO's and they got their own UFO story, you know, and then, you know, you listen to Bill Cooper, and he was former office of naval intelligence officer, and, you know, and, and when you hear what he says shit, he wrote that book, behold a pale white horse. He would that guy said crazy shit. He said, there's a base on the moon that guy that's your talked behold a pair of white horse. He said there's a based on the mass. Yes. No. He at first didn't at first you're talking about. I don't know. No. Here you're talking about Bob friend. That guy's crazy too, right? What does that guy say he says that there's millions of people on each planet, and they're all every planet has millions of people? Is he the guy that owned skin Walker ranch? I don't know. But he was a part of his dad owned Lear jet riot. Right. I forget what his name is. Seems like a super rich troll. Totally what he says the crazy shit. He says, I'm like this guys have a good time. Fucking people. Yeah, totally totally. But Bill Cooper says that because his job was to prepare notes, top secret notes classified shit, it for meetings with high level people in the military, and he was based on what he was reading it was like, damn UFO's are real. Look, I have proof. So at first he was like I sure you afford a real for sure. They're hiding. That's what he was saying. He was preaching that then he learned later, they let him whistle blow. He never got busted for whistle blonde that they they. They want him. They wanted him to leak that you. That's what his conclusion was. He started to realize wait a minute. They want me to leak this. And then he he, he got to the point where he believes that all you Afo abductions, like, I'll like the he believed that everything was a product of the government all UFO sightings objections. They're taking you win. It's he, he believes it's like the CIA doing that shit. And he that's what he was really about before we. Let me ask you. He got murdered man. They went up to us ranch and fuck them up if they wanted to really fuck with you. This is what I think they would do. They first of all, they would put acid on your shit put us on your door nam or something like that, because there was a dude who found something a forget, what he found some old thing. And as he was opening it up. He he just by touching. It, it was like some old thing, it was dipped in acid. And he went on an acid trip for like six hours. So this would they do they dose you up. They somehow or another dose you up, whether touching a doorknob finally guy. I it's unreal in recent story. It's a guy that was cleaning up a board like this, a soundboard. That's what it was. He touched. That's what it was like Thomas thing, I think I'm fucking. Hi. Yes. And they ended up testing and that's exactly the story. That's exactly the story, so they could do that to you. And then sneak up on you with some special effects where some fucking crazy mask and fucking flashy with lights, and you're so crazy high, you don't know what the fuck is going on. They grab you and put you on a desk. And tell you, you you've been of -ducted by aliens from another planet. You don't think they fucked with people and did something like that. Do four. Not that the documentary ab- -ducted in plain sight. No, I have not, which one do exact it's foes, and, well, it, it sort of sort of this guy. He was married had a couple of kids. He was tight with the family who had three daughters. He was a predator. So he targeted targeted the twelve year old and what he did is he. Had like fucked with the mom fuck with the dad, the dad sucks with the Doug. With the Dodd sexual relations in psalm. The dad, not fucked the dad jerked him off. Oh, they talk about this on the plus the guy just jerked him off the guy jerked him off. He got a he convinced the jerk him off how weird so we wanted blackmail on the parents. Right. So that once he took the daughter, they couldn't say shit blackmail because he jerked him off and he fought with the mother, too. And it was it was a secret. So I wish that guy doesn't want none of that shit. So let's take his kid, he's going to be he. He asked to take the daughter horseback riding. So, and they were like okay, so he takes the dot horseback riding, and what he does is he. He starts telling her that there's all these alien abductions going on. And we gotta be careful for alien she's twelve years old. So he set her up so when he does he drugs her she wakes up, she strapped to a table. He's got a speaker with alien voices coming out and the alien and she wakes up, she didn't know where she's at, like, oh my God. And this, this alien voice says that she is responsible for saving the earth. She has to marry that dude. She has to marry the dude in alien voice, you have to marry Bob, and you have to have is to put you can't tell nobody and the roads I don't know. And then she passes out, again, she wakes up, and she's not strapped she's looking around the trailer. And she sees the guy. He's, he's pretending he's all fucked up and she's like waking him up. And he's like, you know, it's fake blood on them or whatever. And then he wakes up, and then she tells them, we've been abducted violins, and I need to have your child. Oh, my trigger. So from the age of twelve to sixteen he owned her did they end up catching him with the girl like a week later FBI gets involved, and the girl can't tell anybody or everyone dies, so such. So she's obsessed now she's back with the family, the guy's in jail for like a day because, you know what he does he has his lawyers, send letters to the mother and father saying to make them sign like that. It was consensual what he threatened the blackmail. So they signed. It and let them out. They signed in, they let them out. And then he goes to the next state over. But that Schick, she's like she's twelve thirteen fourteen and she's obsessed with him. She has to save the world. So that, that's an example of, and then it turns out, it turns out that I think the guy was CIA probably, and he knew he knew those techniques. That's how they get people. They fill them up say, there's all these alien abductions get them all scared, and then boom when they do it they believe it. Jesus christ. Yeah. So that's M K ultra shit. Did she got kale trip? I guarantee they did that to people who are like political enemies to you. Why wouldn't they do that Deasy? It's ease it just seems like something they would do to just seems like it makes sense. And then Bill Cooper said that the mutilated Carol thing that people are saying, oh, you went are taking them because they're you know they're the Oregon's were taken out. So surgically that we don't have the key, the but what Bill Cooper he was. He got balls deep into that. He he started getting into breaking down. What's really? Happening with UAW owes he's going oh shit. We're being, we're the government is pretending to cover it up there. They want to push it. They want people to believe in aliens. So what do you think that the counter mutilations where you think they were testing weapons on these cattle? The Bill Cooper said it's it was really simple. All the cattle were found by military bases. And what they do is they when they're constantly check checking radiation levels around basis constantly. So what they do is if there's cows, they'll, they'll routinely take a cow take out its rectum, take out at, like certain organs, surgically. And then they dump them just to scare people just let them it'll kill two birds with one stone. They really needed to get some radiation. But it's always good. It's always good to push you foes. Always good to scare people with aliens. I wonder if those, those cattle Duchesne's, if they coincided with areas where there was like some sort of toxic dump, you know, something ammunition dump or something like that, like, anything where some what do they have more of them around Nevada, where they did all those nuclear town. I'm not sure. But the gist of what Bill Cooper said was that makes found near military bases. And he like, once he looked into it. It's like oh, I know what they're doing. They're checking radiation levels, and they're scaring people at the same time that makes sense because it was surgically removed. Right. Like people can do that. Like, why would that eliminate the possibility that people can do it? Of course. People could do it. But pe- you know, people like only aliens could do that. And then they take it and then they move to another place so that the blood is not in a spot where they find the animal. That's all it is. Did. I'm crazy. That's how they catch poachers. You know, do you know that how they catch poachers that way? Sometimes they find out where. The gut pile is. So I say, if you, you didn't really have a tag to shoot a deer, and then you shot a deer another place where you're not supposed to be. But you have a tag at a different place. You, you just because of the someplace where it's easier to get tags. He just take the deer out of the forbidden place. Take a picture of it or something like that. And then go back home, but they busted people because they like Park Rangers, recognize certain mountain peaks and the no no you weren't there. I know exactly what you were when you when you kill the deer you're at a different place, and then they go to that different place, and they, they look at the picture, and they try to coordinate and then they find the gut pile, and then they convict people of poaching that's happened before. Look at the photos. Yeah. Yeah. So like, so that's a Bill that makes sense that they would do that. They would would. Because when you if you think you took that animal and killed and cut in left his big bloody pot. And then put it in a truck and dragged it ten miles away and dropped it off their people like this is crazy. There's no blood at the scene of the crime. All the bloods, missing. It's been surgically removed like no one can do this. This is impossible Ilias literally, no blood on the ground. Yeah. Because they put it there fuck, he fuck wit they think aliens came this far to fuck with cows. Imagine if we went all the way up to like Neptune shoot gophers, which there fuck up your gophers. Neptune Jack, I'm cut their Dicks off throw back. It's funny. That's exactly what they thought aliens do. And it's a Larry county mutilations a fucking hilarious in that regard. It's gross to though, that they did it so many times that it became a thing that people looked for. And then they let all these people who believe in aliens, anyway, that led all these people just stood there trying to scare us it. They're trying to scare us with aliens for sure. Maybe that's what book, big Foot's about maybe Bigfoot was about to let's create this mythical monster, and how people freight they don't want people to move in the woods, the thing about it. That's not good for the N W O the new world. They want people to go into cities. So they face. If they're not doing it. They should do it came rather pick. Came rather pick that unless overdid, that's most reason for believing in Bigfoot of ever. That's so funny thing it's been around forever, though. Dude, they talked about it, and he is. And in the native American culture before. Tebbit the Nazis like have a bet. If you go to Germany, they have these mythical creatures that they created a scare people out of the woods, if they're not doing doing that damn. They gotta give me credit if they started doing it because that's a good luminosity move, right there. Right. That's how crazy deep you have to be. If you're a conspiracy theorist, if you go, so deep, you think that the CIA was in the native Americans before alumnus land deal, don't even understand it had a different name. It was the sandwich. Aircon organization. They taught to European maybe the CIA of the Apache, because, you know, they had to have some evil elites that lied to their people. Right. Maybe they wanted to keep their tribes together. So they said, there's they created these monsters. You can't go out there. We're gonna protect you stay here. That'd be a good move for exactly what happened. Right. And they got these crazy stories of these monsters. You gotta stay here. CIA. Yeah. Data for American, they just grow the empires one. Oh one. You create you scare them with aliens. We got a threat from up here, so we need to protect you. And then we got threats down here to jobs. Maybe jaaz, a CIA movie. Let's keep people out the ocean. We got to keep them in the cities. It's all April. Everything is all powerful imagined. He just worked for good instead of do you know what infiltrate the native American community, the mo- most? I'm sure most of the people are really legitimately trying to stop communism. It's just like a few key Cowboys. Yes. Cowboys in anything cops right, when you hear about corrupt cops that doesn't mean all cops are corrupt, but did you ever see that documentary on New York, the seven five Mike Dowd? He'd been a guess, on Joey's podcast my podcast. He was a corrupt cop and deeply deeply deeply deeply corrupt. That means murdered people know we've got. Up to that according to him. He's never going to tell you a murder people getting you caught for it, but he went to jail, and he says he didn't I believe him just to clarify, but you know, dealt with drug dealers and, you know, driving around and corvette and shit like living like a baller and scared we're all selling drugs, and they caught him and they put them in jail for a long time. And then they put off this fucking amazing documentary. It's called the seven five. It's about everything. He tells them spills, the beans about getting involved with all these drug dealers and roll in these people overtaken their money and then go into business with them. It's crazy. It is crazy documentary, you'll get anxiety. Even though you know, the guy is still alive, while they're telling the stories like us price. They were just doing blow and going crazy. Just in Robin people straight, Robin people showing up at people's houses, putting guns their heads, rob. Another drug money, you know, like it was nuts, man. Like there's hits out on them. It was crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy documentary. But this is like there's a guy who I should know who the, the, the current guest is. On Sam Harris's podcast. I'll look at that up in a second, but he was talking about, you know what they're talking about. Like absolute power, and absolute power does that old expression. Absolute power corrupts. Absolutely power corrupts and absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. And what they're talking about today. And I was when I was walking the dog I was listening to this. They're saying, no, what it does is it exposes you more than it corrupts you exposes corruption. And like any they gave some examples about, like Richard Nixon like that Richard Nixon when he was when he was young his professor told them, not to be a lawyer because he has, like, really shitty ethics like expose him when he became president. And that's when the power got to him, and that, that's an interesting. That's an interesting subject. Like would does like, why does someone become a out of control corrupt cop? Well, it's exposes them. Exposes something in them. But in his case when he was saying was the whole department was corrupt when he got in there. They were corrupt. People were corrupt the day he got on the job people were telling. Him what to talk about what not talk about. And they beat some guy up or something like that. And he's like this, never this never happened, you know, like they have these little, what do they call it? What does that expression? They have for. For cops keeping their mouths shut with the fuck is that there's an expression. There's this is like a code. Is called the coda says it's like almost has like a snitch is needs stitches. Code of some even thinking of Chuck Norris. Movie code of silence. But when you got the power to just rob drug dealers, and you're a young guy was doing coke. You know, you're crazy. He's a really nice guy, though. Returns police officer code of silence, coda south Chuck Norris movie. It wasn't Chuck Norris movie, right, good, one truck during those cop moves. I love that shit when I was a kid wall violence towed, all of that's coming up as I just think code of silence. Is the name of the Chuck Norris? Movie pretty sure, but yeah, man, I just like this corrupt. Cops most cops aren't corrupt. I think that's the case with agents with fucking anybody. You know, let's just how goes man, I have a bunch of conference. They're all just made a mad dash. You know, so that that's what I call it diarrhea dash. Yup. Running into that can't I know there's cops out there that are probably a couple of them out there fucking people up and maybe for sure for sure. But the cops I know the cops that I come in contact with they've always been cooled. Yes. He's been cooled. Well, also. To you know they're not pulling you over there. Also in the martial arts, you're famous martial artists, and a lot of times training or learning from him or we're talking to them that you have see events, Seeda big John McCarthy. Yup. Yup. Yeah. It's like right guys, I'm super pro cop, but I know that there's bad people in every fucking line of work. It doesn't mean cops are bad doesn't cops. It's a terrible fucking job. The problem is when, when someone does do something bad, man. It changes. Everybody's opinion about what cops are like this to videos I saw last week of cops, pulling people over with guns drawn pointed in the car, one was a Mexican family, a guy and his girl, and one was a black family. A guy in his girl is the same thing, the guys driving. And the guy in the cop has his gun out pointed out them, and he's telling this black kid, shut off his car, and he's like, I'm not gonna do that. He's like, I'm not moving my hands. He goes, you give you give you an excuse to shoot me. I'm not moving my hands, so his girls filming it and he's got his hands up. It's crazy to watch man. I don't know what happened before that I don't know what the. Context was, I don't know. I don't know. I've no idea all I know is this guy's got a gun pointed out this guy, and the guy's not threatening him. He's not set. Any and he's telling them to shut off the car and the guy scared shut off the car because there are, there are videos of a cop telling a guy pull over the guy is let me see your license registration, and he reaches back at his wallet. And the cop shoots him is video, you can see that. But what about people's my point? I got a clear story, right? You guys maybe maybe they ran his plates in the us shit. We got we got a hot one. Sometimes I'm sure, they'll never know. Sometimes, I'm sure that's the case. But with this video that wasn't, you know, nobody provided that information in that video you just seen a guy pointing a gun at a guy and I don't think he has his, you know, let me just has hands up. Look, it's fucking. We've talked about this one hundred times it's a hard guy, damn job. You're pulling people over, you never know who's going to shoot, you want to go home to your wife and family and every fucking day. You're pulling people over the lion, you every day you're dealing with people that are breaking the law, and they're not happy to see you. Every day. And I think that's where that absolute power corrupting comes in corrupt some fucking people. You know, there's some dirty birds out there. I think in the future, though, ma'am. You're going to see less and less about I think it was probably a hundred percent of the way things ran like many, many years ago. And now it's way less because it's way, more transparency. You know, you know that cocaine Cowboys documentary seeing that. Billy Corbin stuff. Yes, you know how the class of the graduating class, the police academy Miami, one year, a hundred percent of them either were murdered or went to jail for corruption whole class. Yeah. That's crazy with that. That's what happens when places go sideways, you know, when things go. So nutty. Yeah, it's crazy the Scarface days crazy. I am. It's someone. If someone told me to do you know the CIA Purdue produce Scarface to distract from their drug running? I would just need a YouTube link. You know what I mean? Well. The CIA, even if they didn't produce it if they really, if some Cowboys and the CIA were selling drugs, even if they didn't produce Scarface, they certainly benefited from it and someone because it made a made drugs, smuggled for all the drug smugglers, never all Cubans. Never all Mexican like, but it made it sound problem. There was some guys. What was that guy within didn't bury seal bring in over five billion tonnes or five hundred billion five billion dollars or something like that? A big billion of drug money and Tom Cruise movie on him. Yeah. Wasn't that good? Yeah. It was about that right now. That's about. It's about Barry. So, yeah. Yeah, what is that? Movie called the Tom Cruise Warner can made American made. That's a fucking excellent movie. That's an excellent movie and for people who don't know how all that shit went down. You watch that movie. I don't know how historically accurate, it was is that involved the CIA to talk about. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And they essentially. Talk about exactly a we just talked about Cowboys and see how many people were making money on the sneak tip son, bringing in that cocaine bringing in that I don't know if it had in the murders of the two kids, though, because that's really how they got busted. They got busted because they were dropping off coke out of these planes and two kids, saw the drop off, and they found the two kids near the coke, and they fucking murdered them. And then they put him on train tracks and said they got high and fell asleep on train tracks. Families did an autopsy and found knife wounds on the kid. They knew something was up. And then they, they investigated in slowly, but surely the pieces started fall apart. And then when Barry seal was murdered. He had George Bush's phone number in his pocket when he was murdered. Is that in the movie too on? I don't know. I don't know on that was in the movie. But that's, that's what happened on his way to testify. I mean, they weren't even hiding it. They just let this guy get shot up on the way to testify. He four sure brought in what I would call a fuck load of coq who Barry seal for sure. Fuck load, who is his boss? You think it's a good question. It was an Arkansas. Right. Somebody probably got a taste, you know, at many different stages, right? With the coq coming in Arkansas. I mean, is that was that real was that movie Tom Cruise movie about Meena, Arkansas, bro? It's good movie. I don't know. It's hard for me to watch any movies, unless it's an animated movie for my kid like going to a wreck. Regular movie can I know it's hard Cam do at home. Well google. This was, we'd probably have a lot that we just cover that needs to be Google the website about the accuracy of the movie. Oh, good. Perfect. That's what I was gonna ask to who decides how accurate or not bright. Right. And they let them go and certain certain times they caught him. They let them go. People didn't want to let them go, like crazy documentary or crazy movie. What what do they call that? What, what, what docudrama what is, what is it? When someone makes a, a movie about it's not really a docudrama though. It's not it's a fucking movie. It's like you know, we never know how much is true what we're talking about that. Goddamn wrestling movie with Steve corral with the Mark Hamill move, or Markelle Schultz movie. Oh, yeah. The, the Garry Marshall's. Yeah, the Gary Goodridge thing where they replaced him with some Russian dude in the movie. That's a historical event when Gary Goodridge fought it was a historical event, marshals dominated one of. The best guys in the sport easily just wrestled him to the ground with ease. And we got a chance to see. Wow. This is what happens when Olympic gold medalist, wrestles, irregular martial artist, but in the movie they decided to just change that for no reason. Like they could do that with anything. So the fucking Bruce Lee movie with Jason Scott Lee, that, that was filled with a bunch of bullshit, shit up. He had a famous fight where he learned wing Chun doesn't really work on Americans. It was it was in a YMCA. He was fighting for the right to teach foreigners kung FU because the elders that lived in San Francisco or Seattle forget. I think we're San Francisco. They didn't want him to teach foreigners. And they said, if you beat this, if you beat our guy up, then we'll let you teach foreigners. So, yeah, despite news in the YMCA, but in the actual movie, it's fucking dungeon. Dude, if this cave in elder to sit on our the rings, it's like mad at that can rigs. It's right. It's the craziest, they didn't have to go that far. It was just the YMCA. Did he win the fight? Yes. And it didn't get real in real life. He had a he hurt his back doing squats or dead. Lifts in really bad here it is. So that's when he wrote his first book is when he was like an attraction is that what they call it when they get back since some kind of spinal or some kind of brace but. So, but in the movie, the dude, kicked him in the back and broke his back tricky. Yeah. And then he's there's a famous appearance of his at the Long Beach convention center back in the sixties. It was like a karate tournament. And he did some demonstrations. He did the there's a there's video famous video of him doing the one inch punch. It's in front of it's like at the like an IB J F tournament. He's doing a demonstration and in the movie it was a real fight. And he fights the same dude from the dungeon. It's a rematch. Oh, no. They added all nude. You guys think it. Why would they do that to his life was amazing in, you know in reality, aren't they doing something on him right now, though isn't something happening right now? Some new Bruce Lee thing that read that or my just hoping there's a movie coming out about a dude who is a famous actor in the late sixties and early. Seventies. And in the movie. He's, he's a stuntman. Yeah. He's a famous rich stuntman dude. And in the movie, there's a Bruce Lee part where he's in a Bruce Lee movie and also an acquaintance. Tina movie called once upon a time in Hollywood. He showed. That's Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee's in there. Yeah. Oh, nice. But it's not a is it TGI Bruce Lee it actor. It's an actor. They should've went with the CGI Bruce. Yeah. Alcohol make new Bruce Lee movie all CGI shit here to luminosity doesn't want you to know how good they are that yet. Okay. So if the aluminum body created, Bruce Lee, what would be the reason? Well, they would if they did it, they would let you know, hey fuck face. We already can make movies out of anybody anytime we want. We could have someone talk, like Bruce Lee. That wait a minute, Bruce Lee did go very good. Was that CGI doesn't want go? I'm right there. I mean it's close enough. Is that the new Bruce Lee is just from the trailer so we can get what that CGI? No, no, no. It's not CG for sure. It's that first sky. Right. That first clip down. Right. Their CTO. It's glasses. He's wearing face. He's think as fuck it looks like a CGI video game or you like they did something to his jaw it little bit. Looks like GI face. No, he has a nice trail, but that's because you've seen him in a different angle. Watch back it up to where he's at the side would if they're doing baking to me. Hold on. Hold on me that looks Jesus Christ jaw. He's getting very different thing. I know you gotta stop everything you gotta stop as exhausting. Could have though if they wanted to the furious with Paul Walker. Right. They re created his face alone, they need to do a Bruce Lee. They can't have it fucked up at all. It has to be super smooth. It has to be asked to be really Bruce Lee usque totally. And you know what you can do it like that. Movie, man. This is like twenty years ago. The final fantasy movie where they animation, but they try to make it look real old people. They got shit down got old people doubt harder. Make a young girl. Look real. So that kinda of still a cartoon effect but older people shit. Look like real people. Yeah. They can do it with textured skins. Right. Do with dragging. And that was twenty years ago, they could do movies that are full CGI. That's really hard to tell but it's also because your brain doesn't have like a reference point for dragons. They can make a dragon look real whereas like juicy game of thrones. They have the wolves wolves are always just like the hair move. They don't have air dance. Years away from here. It moves to, to see Schlomo always super slow MO that, that is that popped up here on this video. Michael MO that's the dude. Yeah. So when you see him with the glasses and see from the side, he should. That's interesting. I, I don't know if they could do the CGI yet, for a whole movie and make him with Bruce Lee's face do perfect. Wow, that's crazy, so they could have done that. But then, again, if everybody else in the movie isn't like Steve McQueen and all the other famous folks in the movie but they using different people for them, but that would be fucked up. Imagine if in the future. All the ever make is, like Charles Bronson movies. Steve McQueen movies, Bruce Lee movies, and they do it with regular actors in the regular actors get paid, like scale these are giant ants, and they do fake any faking on them, and they have new, Bruce Lee movies, and they have some do. I'd be a lot chitter fourth how rogue Princess Leia back. Oh, she's not even alive anymore. I didn't see the new one. Yeah. Is there you go? Wait a minute. Maybe I did is that the ones where the doing it now. She's in the more recent one that just came out and the one before that, too, I guess, I think I saw the most was the most recent. There's a lot of them. I think I'm a think I'm one behind. I think a missed I haven't seen the new vendors of managed to avoid the whole spoiled by when they start doing like, like they'll take angel- Joe Lena leaves faith. Zhol Lee and put it on, like, you know, beyond size body or something. Remember that song, see a big. Oh, Titi like Angelina Jolie. But that's yeah it's a great song that was a big hit for a couple of weeks got about that. Yeah. Angelina Jolie got big titties. That was a song. It was the it was, like, different people that had some big titties. The name of the song. She's in that new Melissa sent movie. They did some crazy shit to her face man. They turned her into some like, dragon ladies some wizard, lady or which Lee, there's a lot of satanism in movies. Man may go dark with the do do you trip out? I know I know we have different opinions on, like, what say you know, what the sky and space. But do you notice do you notice watching kids programming that they fucking bombard kids with space, right? Sure. Do they get hammered with it in every movie their space? There's aliens or space aliens. Well, not everybody movies. Yeah. It's crazy. Shane they blast him with it. Well, there's a lot above us. You look see forever. It's important for kids, though, totally important, period. Man, I wanted to Brian Cox's demonstration that he did. They did like they do a show. They did it in downtown LA. And I was thinking I would love to get Eddie Bravo high and have him watched this like a fight companion. This is easy. I is this? Fake. Yeah. Why do you think it's fake? How much do you think is fake the space man? You know, one of bronze a Nazi, right? Yes. Okay. He was brought in from operation paper clip. Right. Right. Do we had any Jacobson on? Did you listen to that? Yeah. Yeah. She talked in depth about. I mean that's how we everyone agrees on that. Everyone agrees that he directed all six missions. Yup. Everyone agrees. Everyone agrees that him and Walt. Disney we're best friends where they best friends, their best friends. They worked on space together. They were like, you know, jump into a lot of conclusions day in this day and age. You don't think anybody's like when SpaceX shoots rockets off in the space or when you know, Amazon has a rocket company. Now these guys are going to be able to launch satellites and even have consumer flights. I just need proof. Man. What about I see in the future? Would you be willing everywhere? So I'm like, okay, you know, when you're willing to do is remove you hold on. You know, you're talking about that FOX Foxcatcher movie. You're like you said a couple of times podcast. We once you've once you saw that they right after Gary Goodridge out. You were like I can't trust this movie. I can't the whole movies. I can't trust it. It may be real and may not be real, but I need some proof. I got you. That's exactly how I feel about. No, no not space. The government government coming agency. Whatever the government agency I look at it like FOX catcher. You've lied enough where I'm like I need some get refutable evidence. Otherwise, why do I have to believe it? I assume any real I get it. But SpaceX is in the government space basically private company. No. There's subsidized by the government subsidized do they got like four billion dollars. So they tell them to fake space, no one's trust in NASA. No more. So they're Panin and over let's get let's do decide thing and everyone's all into space now. Hm. That's the way to look at it. I think it's when you saw that you saw that, that, that tesla launch summit, what are you talking about? When when he claimed to launch a space. Did you see that footage the actual tesla space? Yes. Yes, I saw that. And you have a dude, you, I've always known you as a dude, had a strong vibrant, vibrant, no shit meter. You've always been that you're gonna watch that evidence and go, oh, okay. You can't just buy that. Did you can't just buy these Dickie Tillerson? Very first thing does eight the very first don't poison the water if you want me to get an honest. I, I think Elon Musk set on his in his press conference, the first thing he said is like, well, I think it's impossible and ridiculous. And if. You can tell it's real because it looked so fake. That's the opposite of logic that there's logic and reason, and then there's the opposite of that. No, it's real because it looked so fake is the opposite of long word. That's something he says, because he's a fucking genius. And he's taken a picture from sets flying through the air. The reason he said that was because all day when they did that all day, all over the internet was, like fake, fake fake fake fake. So. Please. A statement this is so ridiculous. Let me see Jaime why I'm on. Let me see the video, which one when fucking. And stay in power video short one. Just just. Thanks. The wrong one that got edited some trying to find the one that's from space. It's just abandon this up. So for just you know what I just may be real space, real dot exactly. Why why they know seen them shoot the rockets off. I mean, literally them Iraq, it anytime you see a wrong. It's you. You see it go up and you go down in the ocean. No launch rockets and rockets. That's what it looks like. Because what you're seeing go over the curve of the earth at you're seeing it go over the ocean. You seen it go up and over. And so as it gets further away that you can't see it anymore. It looks like it's going up the nas- going. It's not going parallel. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So there should stay. Spinning. Yeah. Okay. I I understand that. That's what you believe. But you gotta understand what I believe what I believe, because because that's what you see. But if you have someone explain it to you, where you still believe it. If you haven't scientists, explain to no, no, no, no, no, no explanation. No explanation. I need evidence need evidence. And then when you see evidence when you see that tesla that they launched, and you see how fake it looks it looks. So thank you pick. But just because something doesn't look real doesn't mean it's fake. But it doesn't mean it's real. I need evidence. I never see that you haven't seen with your own eyes might be fake. Maybe I don't trust. It's alive. They don't trust that. Everybody's like a simulation. You know. Right. I had a friend who lied about every everything about his life, where he was from all the things he did. He was a wrestling champion. He was he had everything then I found out like two years into the relationship little by little that he lied about this. And he lied about that, then I find out that he lied about everything is one of those guys that learn about everything and view the government. Yeah. Exactly. So he may be telling the truth, and even total liars. We'll tell the truth throughout the day, a lot, just to get through the day that you have to tell the truth. But then, you know, at the drop of a hat, they're gonna lie about their life in some crazy way. Whatever I understand your logic. Eddie down here. I understand you logic, but you also have to assume that most of the people that are telling you the truth about this or that. That online that also don't have proof that also are talking about these things, and they haven't shown, you, you haven't seen it, you haven't been there, just like you haven't been, you know, examining satellites these people. They, you don't know if they're full shitty could be real could it could be? That once would you repay were. Why would you assume they were but the satellites are fake? See what I'm saying? What do you mean? Assume, people that are making these YouTube videos that they're correct. But the people that are putting up satellites just go by science. That's scientific evidence like real science like water is always level. Right. We know that water is always level at. Station. If you don't understand how gravity works over a giant fucking sphere. No. If if we live on a ball, that's twenty five thousand conference if we do then the water should be bending. With this. This is so crazy. You don't know what that means. I do know if it's a bowl, the ocean should be curving at a certain rate and they figured that out. Here's a. The power perspective, but it's going around. Why is it going over the top? And why is it? Shrinks, everything you look at the end of the street at streetlights do that. Yeah. But it doesn't streetlights do that. Eighty did you did on the hill, not on the ocean? No, no. But you're looking at those electrical posts or whatever call and they go down. That's how street let you go right in the middle of the street, then marry next at streetlight is appears to be shorter than that, one in the next one appears to be sure that's how you draw shit you. But is it really that short? No, it's just your perspective. You're actually looking at an optical illusion. You're actually looking at it looks like they're getting shorter. And descending it looks are. They know they're not because they disappear they disappear over the horizon. And then you could bring him back in. But that's not true. No, you can't you know you can see more up to the edge of the horizon. But at the end of the horizon, it goes over over the edge. So when you're talking about when, when it with the naked eye, you're looking at him own go in the ocean, and you see it, right. Telescopes. What will you just getting small enough so that you can't see it anymore? Telescope, you can still see it for a little while. And then it goes over the fuck and curve, a more power if you will. Go it brings it even closer but more powder wise test, they've already done. You could see England. You could look out you could see Hawaii too much. You could see Hawaii can't you see Hawaii, have you could see the moon. Why can't you see atmospheric curves the fucking know if it curves? Okay. That's what the scientists say the ones who make the GPS, the ones, the maps, the ones who chart, the fucking paths for airplanes and shipping routes. All those people say it's round all the people that do satellites, all the people that are involved in aerospace all the people that are involved in anything where you have to calculate the fuck and curve, or the earth, and the to get things to places all those people think it they're all wrong. That's crazy that they haven't seen that picture. They don't they don't see that picture if they saw the picture, they would get it. At one hundred miles in the ocean one hundred miles how much curvature should they be Dino? I don't care two thousand feet about six thousand feet of curvature. So you should. You could see. No, you wouldn't be able to see a hundred miles away from the who Eddie, you didn't go to school for this stuff. These people that are talking to you, dude. I research this all the time. No, but you're you hearing. You know what I'm saying, not at a hundred miles of she'll be six thousand feet of curvature. Do you don't even understand what that means? Don't I understand what that means? If we live on a bowl, that at every hundred miles, there should be six thousand feet of curvature. There's, there's a formula for it. And, but when you look there's a navy ships that can target other navy ships with lasers a hundred miles away. It would be impossible if there was a six thousand foot curvature of water impossible. They take pictures of their target pictures at one hundred miles. There's no curvature. It's flat. There should be six thousand feet and pictures of what this is something. This is not your area of expertise. This is one of the reasons why I get crazy about this kinda shit. Dude, I look into this. Because you read something that someone. What I just said. I bet you can go to school for it. So I don't know. But I understand do you stand up. We live on a ball at one hundred feet there should be six thousand feet of curvature does that. Everyone's wrong. Eddie. So all these fucking people. Australia. They're doing it the wrong way all these people that go over the North Pole. All that's all that's really goes into lights. There's no flights over the North Pole. There's no flight house. Maybe there's military planes to go over the Northland, maybe. Okay. Let's please. Let's flown all over the world. I've never gone over the North Pole. I flown everywhere, everywhere. No one ever goes over the North Pole. So they go over the North Pole. Now, I don't know. So no. If if it's so painful, this change the subject, I'm trying to subject. We could talk about Tony Ferguson would so Saturday. What about that? That's great. Forgetting any questions to what you've been working with them fuck. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. Did he he's sharper stronger in the best shape of his life? It's the same, Tony that, you know you'd think like is it going to be the same, Tony after, you know, the, you know, he had he had some family stuff? Go on is, is that going to change him? You know, his opponents hope it changes somebody has, he's the same Tony when it comes to fighting, we don't get into personal stuff. We just stick to fighting and the strategy, he sharper than ever. It's I'm not you know, you can't guarantee any wins. But I will guarantee that he's going to go win a one hundred percent. Tony it's crazy matchups. Very good match. That's like Russian roulette right there. Do they're going to be knowing bombs at each other. It's real good. Particularly now with Donald has been on a tear like. Last four fights three or four fights. I mean he's just looked so good man ally, went to fight for people who know how good allies for Donald handle Al like that, and drop them. And you know, and really put it to like the way I'll put it out said he'd beat the shit out of me. That's what else exact quote was I was very complimentary and respectful after the fight. Cowboy is no joke that guys on fire as he doesn't fight like could be. He doesn't fight like Connor. He finds Tony. So it's like similar. It's like towing versus Tony. You know what I mean? And it's shit do both get on the ground. Very good on the ground. We respect Cowboys fucking ground game a lot, and you know, we, we did what we could to make sure, you know, nothing. Bad happens on the ground. You know what I mean? But they both have everything they both have great strike, and they both have great submissions. Tony's coming for war like he always done. It's going to be the same throwing down. That's for sure now when tone. Let me ask you this, because, you know, the answer to this one, Tony had his knee fixed. Did he Spar during that camp? Because someone said that he didn't do any spine. It was like one of the rumors from someone who knew him. I think he keeps his sparring tournament striking right. Yes. I'm never there for the striking. I've never separate. We don't I'm never I've never seen him. Never there for the strike on the show is, when there's grapple his the amount of time that it took him in big bear. He didn't. He didn't bring anybody to Spar like hardcore it was just like lights touching because the knights were letting the knee heel. Oh, no. That's a different fight. We're talking about the knee. Remember you had the, the massive knee injury. And then he had surgery and then what I'd heard during the Pels fight. Oh, yeah. No. Sparring, no sparring. Yeah. That's crazy. Very light very light. Well, I guess, you know, one you already world class you could do that. And he didn't wanna fuck wanted to make sure nothing went wrong. Get to get through the fight. It was it was the right choice for sure. And when he showed up against Pettus, he looked like same old Tony. He did. It was stunning. This has you're talking about a catastrophic knee injury, and then six months later, the ends fighting a world class fighter. And he's getting his legs checked, you know, he he got the Dutney check e. We even worried at one point in time. They might be injured would makes Tony so good in my opinion, just based on working with them is. It seems that you know, at at the highest level, high pressure fight people are aren't as. The more cautious. They don't want to do anything stupid. They're not just letting it swing. And let me go Tony isn't like that. Tony is people want to get to the point where they just unleash and they don't give a fuck. And there's a lot of fighters like that. But Tony when he's in there it's like like Nick de is they're not afraid to throw anything, you know what I mean? He goes in there, he'll through to spinning elbows in a row and he's just having fun. It's like he's alive. And he's having fun in there. And he's an on the ground. He's not going to be hesitant to do something wild and crazy. That's just the way is man. And he thrives in the cage, and there's zero holdback. He's, he's he comes out guns a blazing the whole time. Yeah they're both at the top of their game. Man. That's for sure. You know, Tony didn't miss a step when he got that knee injury is very impressive. Even in striking was on point when he fought Pettus, and even got tested. He got clipped mean pet is hurt him. You know, he, he knows how to. Survived, man. He's a very unusual fighter man, very difficult to prepare for because it's still Alice. Oh, we studying always adding new weapons. His arsenal always adding something to workout routine. He's always adding shit. He has the ability to focus more than anybody. I, I know he his, his ability to focus and you see that not only in, you know the striking aspect of his game or the wrestling, but you see it in the ju jitsu, and that's where I see it is, he has so much focused he doesn't. I don't have to reteach shit. I will show him very complicated. Transition of moves like to spiderweb doing the break, there's like four moves. You gotta do you gotta fire him. It's got to be so smooth that can't be any fuck ups and I show him this and after like four or five reps. He's got it down. And most people take it's take six months to get it down to understand it. And he just can he just doesn't take him long to learn shit anything wrestling striking anything new. He's down. But he doesn't forget it. That's the most important thing. He remembers all this shit, and, you know, it's a who's working with him with striking a guy named Rashad used to think he was like. An Olympic hopeful back in the day boxer. Yeah. Most guys do that. Right. It seems like there's not a lot of guys who just use one for all striking. He's got a bunch of people to train them. He's got a couple of different strength and conditioning coaches. He's got a whole crew man. I think that's important. I mean he's Trump's embossing really into recovery. He spends a serious time, recovering. He's got all these contraptions. You know, those things that you could like leg sleep techs, and they inflate and he's he's on that all the time. He's he's when it comes to rehab for any injury. He's like a professional NFL player, you know and. Ice bats like you know at massages he doesn't fuck around man, and he's he's hundred percent thinking about and doing something for the fight. Usually just nonstop he can go on for hours and it's crazy. Yeah it's a fucking crazy matchup. And it's only the third fight means the third from the top, you know, there's two championship fights on top of that. That's crazy. The headliner right there. Come on, man. It's going to be nuts. People are gonna go crazy for that. Great. But so who Doan Marlin Moore is have to fight for the bantamweight title? That's a crazy fight to men so who don't Moore is. That's the main event, and then Valentina Shevchenko. And Jessica, I for the women's flyweight title. So those are two world title fights. They have to have those at the top, but that just shows you how fucking crazy. The card is the card from top to bottom just amazing. Yeah, it's gonna be crazy. Fucking Jimmy, Jimmy Rivera and Pietro yon tied to Vaasie an blog knee, Ivan off. You moving it while trying to read it. Don't do the pro that's rude fuck up that dude's name tie Voss's animal. Those are. That's a great fuck and fight. That guy's crazy. That's that guy the drinks out of a shoe. You ever see him do that? He does shoe. He's he pours beer into shoes and other people's shoes. Tell someone take the shoes off pours beer and shoes and drinks it. It's so disgusting. It's so foul. Yeah. I don't get it. But I get it. I don't get it. But I get it. He likes to party. He's like that dude in Talladega nights with the FOX's name. The other guy. Johnson riley. Yeah. Johnson party party. Drink on his shoes. Fuck it. He's an animal. I guess like. I mean if you want to really show, you don't give a fuck. That's a good way to go about doing it. Just grab a man shoe and poor beer into it and drank it. He's dirty sweaty feet have been funk in around that, if you died from that measure if someone's foot fungus was so disgusting that even the alcohol didn't kill it. It germinated inside your gut. We're foot fungus is never going to be like, if, if there's venereal diseases, right? We all know there are because you dirty bitch, like what, what, what are you guys doing to each other? You both giving each other dirty fucking things you thirty things and diseases are weird. Right, people give each other disease, this venereal disease, which extra weird. It's like oh, you dirty people. He gave each other's dirty dirty disease, but nature says we don't like this nature just let these sneaky, little parasites and viruses, and bacteria getting your body. What if there was an even more powerful one for people sucked on feet? What if it got in your gut nature's, like this guy is just too much of a freak? We got a call them column for the hurt. If I if there was foot sucking diseases, you know, before you make out with somebody to go tell them. Hey, I just want, you know, I got a foot sucking disease, so if you don't maybe we should do this, but Jamie, what are you making faces? For says you can get staff from doing this. Of course, you can science confirms shoe, he's are really freaking dangerous, especially if you're rich, why is it more dangerous? That's clicky. I try to get us with the cliquey bait turns out, you can get stuff. Yeah, you can get staff. Don't do it. Yeah. I don't get science studied a figure that out. Yeah. Because because the staff auroras can cause toxins, and these Cox toxins are quite resistant to heat. They quite resistant to the acidic environment when they could survive a protein breaking enzymes, oh, Jesus Christ. If you drink with someone shoe, containing staff, and its toxins, yes, it can give you an acute gastro intestinal illness. Fuck all that says, but alcohols disinfectant, right. Well, yes, but there's always still a risk of infection, especially if you have lower AB alcohol by volume drinks, as you'd expect higher AB drinks vodka. Do a much better job of Iraq Aratu counting bacteria. So, yeah. Beer, which is what they drink, which is a low alcohol beer or log all beverage. What a fucked up way to Di Di you gotta do shots in those things shots are fine dog people crazy. But no one's happy with, like taking it and leaving it where it is. Everybody wants to take it to the next level, you know, like everyone constantly like you want to one up somebody, I'm gonna drink. Eddie underwear, bro. I'm use your underwear as a fucking filter. No, dude, you're going to be do undies. There's going to be ribbon each other's underwear off and use them over a filter, put it over a glass, and drink right through your underwear. How did that cat coffee? Get found out the copy loook good idea, because some asshole decided to pick catch shit and find beans in it. It's, it's a cat like animal rights civic. You ever had that shit that copay loook coffee know it's very expensive Tate? Ni- got at once. We're at a gig in Florida Tate. Yeah. It was like a hundred dollar Cup of coffee or something stupid. It's really ridiculous. Not that much. Maybe twenty five bucks. Remember when he was body? Palm. Yeah. Back in the day. Yeah, that's the animal look at that thing. So that thing eats. The coffee beans. It shits them out. And then people pull it out of the poop, it looks like a little things, baby. At the thing from fantastic for it looks like it's baby. Yeah. They pull those beans out of the poop, and then the they dry them off and make coffee out of catch it. And it tastes delicious. Because what it is, is that, that's gold, right there as gold coming out of that cats. Asshole, we'll that that is a ridiculous. You just see that online. Taking a lar- like if that was a person, you'd be in jail, if you if you went, and googled, that person shitting on a log like that he'd be like you sick fuck long as it's an animal, it's fine to look at their shit and even mine. They mind their shit for beans. The idea is that the, the digestive enzymes from the civic body break down the, the beans, the coffee beans. That's the idea. And you liked it. So, okay, aren't you wasn't better? It's not bad out here for the guests. It's not better, the ideas that it's supposed to be smooth smooth is catch it coffee smoother. I don't know. Man. I don't necessarily think it really is smoother, it's just different some weird shit. I wonder if you could just eat the cat shit just like that without cleaning it off. If you really nasty natives probably just used to eat the cat should directly, probably did. But I think you need them energy, you probably need a boil it. That's why when you're making coffee in that boiling water probably kills all the bad stuff. You know they did Indians boil shit. No, I don't know who invented that shit in how long it's been around that shit literal, literally who, who invented that coffee how long it's been around. Spinner. I'm looking at it right now Wikipedia, since like the eighteen hundreds, they noticed that these particular animals were eating specific cherries, whatever that they were leaving around and that they were going undyed jested. So at some point they decided to clean it off and see how it tasted, I guess that makes luck and risk. I was listening to my friend Ryan Callahan's podcast today. It's a cow's week in review, and he was talking about this animal that they this bird, rather, that people eat, and they drowned this bird in brandy they take this tiny bird each. One of them is like just a few ounces, and they drown them in brandy. And then when you eat them, you eat them whole you eat everything the guts, you eat the tissue, the skin. That's, that's that's where it is. What is the name of it? What how do how do I pronounce it or Dhillon Bundy lawn? And so when you eat it, you put a napkin over your head, traditionally, when the eight it, and as they eat it Borden was the first one to tell me about this shit that, oh, no. It was Duncan Duncan trussell was the first person to tell me about the shit and fourteen love. They soak the bird in brand. They drown it. Okay. They drown it and brandy and then they cook it somehow or another. But anyway, go back to that picture with those guys reading it where you could see the go back to the picture with the yeah. See how they have those things over the head the put these napkins over their head to take in the aromas and to trap the aromas, and they also do it the hide their face from God. Those the idea kind of people these, I think it's most, I think it's Europeans. I think it's something that in France, it's popular it's popular dish. And it's it's endangered not endangered now. But there. Okay, Oregon's could Francis cruelest food be back in the menu as French chefs lobby for Oregon to be reintroduced onto menus we explain why cooking the rare and delicate songbird is so controversial. So that's even grocer, right? It's a song bird, like how they named it a songbird not it's not a little tiny dinosaur. No, no. It's a song bird. It just wants to sing for you. Make the woods bright tweet tweet tweet nominee. It's a weird little tiny animal says, why is it a legal to cook and kill an order? Lan the. R. S. P B list their status as vulnerable and throughout the nineteen seventies nineteen eighties numbers in France decline dramatically as poachers. Caught vast numbers to supply restaurants, where the bird has long been considered a rare and expensive Doke see some restaurants would charge over fifty pounds for the dish. What does that in? Euros or pounds pound pounds, leaving that costs. Let's fifty pounds selling one hundred bucks, not quite, but something like that Francis league for the protection of birds claimed order, Lon numbers plunge thirty percent between ninety seven and two thousand seven as many as one thousand five hundred poachers catching estimated thirty thousand live birds a year. So they just decimating these fucking things. The method of capture and killing them as what's fucked up about it. So the hunters catch the birds using traps in the fields. They're kept in cages. Encouraging them to gorge on grain in order to double their size. And it said the Roman emperors stabbed out there is in order to make the birds, thank you. It was night making them. Eat even more. Okay here goes. And then how were they killed? This is where the squeamish look away. What does the name is websites? We give people that's telegraph autograph from. Telegraph. What is the name of the article? Well, we'll tell we'll say it at the end. How would they killed says this with a squeamish need to look away? Traditionally in France. The fat and little birds are drowned in a VAT of Armonk, neck. It's a tight cognac or something. What is it? Our magnetic probably dead on. Okay, managing to snuff out their lives. In marinate them at the same time, killing two birds with one gulag, as it were, it says, here in the article friendships argue that it's not a bad way to die in quotes, what the fuck, but I suppose it might be less cruel than throwing a live lobster into a pot of boiling water anyway. So that's how they they drown them and then they cook them. And then you eat the whole fucking thing bones and all and the bones puncture your mouth and shit. And that's part of it. Like you taste your own blood as you're eating these fuck. And things. Yeah. People are weird, man. Leave him alone for long enough let them get drunk. And buy things reminds me of that Andrew Schultz, bit, that he put on YouTube, which one the eating because if you eat ass you should not complain about other people's food. My friend. My friend, told me goes, you know, in Thailand, the crickets. He goes, I eat ass, because they're eating crickets because they have no food might've refrigerators full. So true to so good dude. He's to. He's so good. Yeah. Very very, my new favorite, dude. He's awesome. Really, really nice guy. Too dirty is how, yeah you'd meet them. At one next time. He's at the store you love them. It's a real comic. It's a real deal. He's high level. Yeah. Driver Tony Tony. And we're listening to Andrew show. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. I love that. He's great. And he also is one of the few that is doing the YouTube thing now where he decided to release all this shit on YouTube. Thank god. It's give smart than me. Some, you know, entertainment. Well, it's also very smart for him. I mean he's getting millions and millions of us on YouTube is blowing up. Yeah. Oh for sure. Yeah, he's killing it and to, you know, to have it available anytime. They say that kids watch fifty percent of net flicks on their phone fifty percent. At least that was, I think that was the numbers they gave me. I think that was what they said about my special fifty percent across the board for take can pick move net flicks fifty percent. Twits fifty percent website percent. But that's the the switcheroo those fifty percent. Watch it on their phone that could be watching on the computer. But how many of them wants on their TV like with YouTube? It's probably pretty small percentage. Right. Switches, because they they're tracking they stay splinter it between like an XBox or a PS four smart. TV watch YouTube on my TV here that shit. Yeah, I do that. Sometimes I here that, and I also there's a YouTube is one of the other apps is built into the TV bought so you can get net flicks. Right from your TV. You don't have to have an apple TV, and YouTube right from TV. It's, it's interesting. How big it is. Now, it's so big YouTube star Ganic, a bunch of movies on there. Now, I was watching it on my TV, and just like scrolling through to see what I could what it was going to give me and you were making their own. Yeah. They were making their own movies, but it's weird like it seems like you don't know where to search. Like what did you did you just go into the search bar and just search just type things up my subscription? I subscribe to certain people and I just go to this. This is not what it means. Yeah. Yeah. I know I do that, too, but I mean, like if they make a movie like they were making movies, like, how do you find that movie? Got a up different up right in your face. They own that shit. But if it's a movie that they make like I wonder how I would like to know the numbers, like, have they how many times did they done that 'cause they made YouTube originals rightly they made. They finance their own Muslim or shows though. Like like the one that I know has done the best that Cobra KAI a second season. I think it's not weird though that they get into the production side of it, like, already a place where people produce things, and then put them on YouTube, and YouTube is like we're gonna make our own shit. Yeah. Why didn't you become but then they become something different, right? Because they're going to they're going to favor their own stuff. Above your stuff. If you make a movie to they haven't made like why bother? I think they just want. I mean, I think that's what every company every company gets into this position where they have to constantly expand, they gotta constantly be kicking ass. You know, no one wants to be stagnant. They don't want the quarterly earnings to be the same every quarter us. That's a bad sign. They want to be. They're killing it. Right. Don't they think like that? Like every company thinks that the NBA finals is currently sponsored by YouTube TV. That's. That's the. On normal TV. They're broadcasting watch TV on YouTube TV, which is pretty counterintuitive. I have it. Yeah, I have YouTube TV every now and then you needed, watch something on a regular channel. I use it once every eight months barely pay like fifty bucks a month for never use it. Well, it's so much different though, than a network because anybody can put their shit up. That's where it gets so weird. It's like this is all so new. And you just is our TV channels that you could watch through YouTube channel four channel. Oh, that's what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about is YouTube originals. Okay. There YouTube creating homes. Yeah. Those are different things, but it's just. What percentage of the views would percentage of the eyeballs of America, does YouTube have all of this is it a hundred? Kidding. Okay. Let's just go the low tuber giant, what is the what the low number is how many people every day, don't watch YouTube. I watched it took several times a day. But what's the percentage of people if you had to guess that don't use YouTube at all ten, I would guess that maybe they probably have ninety percent of the people's eyeballs. It's like the number it, technically, it's the number two search engines on the internet as far as I've read that hurts my training and all that, like, it's hurts my brain. Stop and think about how many fucking people must be watching YouTube videos around the world. And it's just a company but it's like so then they're, then they're, they're, they're a network, sort of, but you are, you're allowed they just have terms and conditions. So you're allowed to upload, and then they have to monitor your shit, and make sure you're not put anything horrible up. No isis. Beheading something crazy. Anyway. What numbers are you talking about? How even looking at what are the funniest videos on? Genre videos on YouTube are Japanese that's supposed to be instructional 's on Japanese massage that's supposed to be an instruction on this. It's all about instructional, but it's not they take it as far as you can go for YouTube. Oh, you can't go it becomes a porn almost almost. You know, educationally, but no. But they do give it a show titties. And then played out the nipples now there's YouTube naked chicks. Just just go to YouTube gonna naked chicks balloon, like, here's talked about this before. Here's my question. Imagine if they had porn, if they got right to the part where the people bone like, why to the part, and then they just gave you like outlines like from then out. All you see is like outlines bodies movie. You don't see any real dick or any real, Jonah BC, outlines butts, and Dicks vagina feet up in the air. And I bet that's all over you to wonder if they could do that. You're gonna change a couple of letters and you're on a real website that does that for real like like you ges or your porn. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm saying on YouTube, like, what are the terms and conditions is there like could you get right to the point of people actually having sex and then just also just becomes not even an animation just because? Outlines you see people kissing long outlined? Dick's, almost don't have fake Dixon vaginas height shot. You go tight to the chest back shoulders. How, how all all of it is just outlines just a black screen with, like white, outlines of bodies on a bed is the audio audio illegal. That's a good question. Yeah. Is the oil. Is that illegal is that okay? What's the terms conditions for a lot of stuff? But they I don't know what point a couple of years ago they added, I like age restriction. Right. Sort of thing, so you could probably do that. But it'll get marked eighteen and older, only well, here's the reason why ask Twitter has porn straight up porn, and I asked Jack Dorsey about it, and he's like, yeah. We Twitter allows porn. They allow porn. Wow. So you could be flipping through and someone's discussed Paul Cole porn on the biggest mean it's got to be if not the biggest social media platform on the planet earth. It's top two right? It's not number one. I'm never on Twitter. What is number one Facebook, Facebook's? Number one, are you still? Are you on Twitter? Why put things up there, read feeds occasionally read someone's feed if they post interesting stuff, I think snapshots even hard. But I, I have voided for them. I just don't have the time in the I only have time for Instagram Snapchat is higher. We'll either way it's closer either way. It's july. And it's giant. I mean it's enormous and they allow porn which kind of crazy 'cause like, I know they're not as big as YouTube in terms of, like total minutes watched of things. And the thing is that most of what Twitter is text most of it, you know, so when they have porn it's, it's like a fraction of what the whole thing is whereas if you to had porn, it would very quickly, become most of YouTube. Like if you just had porn. People would blow a fucking gasket, because kids are on YouTube all the time. Did you get on YouTube and look and things? No, somebody has all shown but he's not he's like he's too young to get on the internet. They look at little kid stuff. There's a lot of little kid content, and that was one of the ways that people were getting kids to watch. They can make address revenue. She those weird fucking videos. They would find so kids would be watching like Wiley Coyote cartoons. They want some making mouse type cartoons. And then all of a sudden, it would be like these cartoon superheroes that were babies, and they were getting drunk, and they would fall on cut their head open. It was like what the fuck is this, and there was like hundreds of them in. They had made it like with a formula, just so that they could catch kids in these algorithms, that recommend the next video and play the next video. So eventually get to their video, because it would say, you know, like someone from frozen with Spiderman like in have those names in the title Elsa quick, Elsa from frozen and Spiderman dislike is a large something happened that we don't. Under that we missed. I've heard about this recently too. That's why I was actually pulling it up. This is a really large YouTube channel. And there's some sort of inside joke on, I'll look at this bite Herman ten million eight hundred and seventy thousand eight hundred and seventy two views what the fuck. That's so many views. If listen, if a television show on CBS got that they'd be doing fucking backflips. It'd be like, look at all the views we got this is amazing. This biter man and Elsa. I don't know. There's something else up but yeah. So weird to do that. Title, trademark spider, putting Spiderman find all of them. They can't find all they try. They take some of them down that does that. I think so they just Spiderman Spiderman, but I think they're getting away with that because they were gonna costume. I think maybe you could get away with in a costume. I don't know where those laws change. How many pairs man is like at this point public domain the name? No way. Because then other people be banging out Spiderman movies. You imagine that someone didn't own Spiderman of anybody can make their own Spiderman movie spider man was just like an archetype hero. But you know what? Maybe. Like there's some video like if you wanted to talk some shit on Burt Reynolds, where have you could put Burt Reynolds, and they can't that's legal. Right. Just put people's names in the title. Right. But you but that's not what that is. That's like they're making a video using copy written characters that someone created like Elsa from frozen and Spiderman. Yeah, for sure, I feel like they probably got away with it, because they were dressed up as them rather than like drawing them, like if they had footage from the movie or animation, they probably will have that shit copyright. Yeah but you could probably get away with if you have your own script, and he makes them stupid play with Elson Spiderman, you'd probably get away with that. I don't know though, man. The it's, it's weird. They're all trying to figure out what you can. And can't do you know what? What, what can you not end? So these companies that are making these weird, and that, that was a people one where there's people most of them that I saw before they purge them more animated. There are weird animations where it was always a baby. And the baby fallen cut their head. It was fuck up like the same image would happen over and over again. There was his websites who are analyzing it. And we're like what the fuck is this, like, why is this baby fall and cut his head? And like all these different versions of this same sort of story with different characters. It was just like a like a they had a pattern that they could stick it into. So whatever the character was was Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck, or they're always drinking. And they've fallen hit the fucking head weird weird shit, but they would get millions and millions and millions of us. So someone was raking in the dough from advertising, revenue from that I had a friend who dated a girl that ended up coming from a family of Satan his cO broke up at there, too long story. But it's, it's a very interesting story now when they have a direct line to Satan. No, they broke up there were together for a couple years and shit came out. She's like multi personality Satan is family father, all that shit, and then they he broke up with her naturally, and but they kind of kept in contact. And the last you heard, she got a job programming children's TV at a large company, you want to say the company, John. Is a pretty good friend of mine. He's, he's not bullshitting. But that's scary, bro. Juicy that preacher, the got confronted by inside edition was his name Copeland. Kenneth copeland. It's whole Larry us. I don't know how much we can show this, because this will absolutely get polled. This dude got confronted by inside edition. They're doing these stories on these preachers that use the donations from their flock to buy private jets and live like a bar. And so she asked some, you know, is it true that you said that you don't wanna fly commercial because you don't want to be stuck in a tube with demons? And he first of all, he got caught off guard, and he kinda was chilled at first, but then he got mad at her when she asked that same question again. He said, no, we're not didn't end don't you bring it up. And don't you say I did. That's what he says, and he points at her, and this push pull it ahead a little bit. Because this the full version of this, pull it, there's a that right before that, right before that, right before that, like she asks him, what is he in the Vangelis? Yeah. Yeah. He was a big now. We can't because we'll get pulled off of YouTube for sure. But he gets really fucking mad at her. She said, but didn't you say didn't? You say that you can't fly? Marshall because the tube is filled with demons. Do you think that people are demons like this lady has balls a steel because this guy's giving them to crazy is? And he's saying all kinds of crazy shit question. She also asked about, like, why why did you buy it? And he's like could be because he made it so cheap. Yeah. There's like nine hundred eighty dollars. He made it so cheap. It's like couldn't say no, that's what he says, plane was tie was the best guy. You made it so cheap. I could that's saying it right there, I had to buy. Yeah. You can't can't play it. Unfortunately, the play it right after that, now, this is where she asks him again. He's getting frustrated with her this where she asks him again about demons. Now watch them. Get mad here. Hold on. But you can't play it. Because if you get they fucking here, they hear it, they'll yankus don't talk to Jamie did still. He's still doesn't matter. Man, whoever owns this content. Don't play any of the audio. So he gets mad at her. And she, she's about to say it. She's going to go. But I'm sorry. But didn't you say petition you say right before yet, right there, so wash it she goes to say that they were demons dough this, don't you say that did that? Louis that bro, that's intense. And then he tries to charm, her thing translates trauma that to me is what I would imagine a demon would look like if you cornered it like be realistically, tell me backup backup right there. There's a little bit before that. But a little bit before we actually angry little bit before that watch when he gets actually angry, like, if, if you thought the demons were real, what would you think that they would behave like, wow? They would just pretend to be people and be all slippery, what's happening here. Just froze. Okay backup. So we could see him do it, though, backup. So we could see him do it. So right here. She asked him and watch this watch this now. Don't you see that? And then watch this. Smith. Just let it play stop fucking around. What's this? Look at that face. Oh, your friend again. I'm just in ask preacher is hand looks like that. Hobbit Fokker looking at row, his nails long as fuck to slice hate. I would imagine Satan does not over manicure, Eddie. He thought. No, no. It's gotta look evil dude. Caught a sweet loophole taxes emp status. That's what's really interesting about churches tax exempt baby. The doing the government's work to governments like doing such a good job. Keeping these people in line. Hey, go free free. No taxes, bro. You're good. You're good. Like imagine the government looking at televangelist going. Well, seems the jet, you're definitely have the Lord's words in mind and definitely not making a ton of money in a loophole. So. Yeah, for sure keep that tax exempt status. Seems good seem super solid. Imagine imagine that, like somewhere someone must have had that conversation. Whether or not they should have tax exempt status. At what point in time? You know how the Catholic church how many sex scandals. How many pedophile scandals does it take before you lose tax exempt status? Is it like a million? How many cases how many cases do you need? I get what point in time? Do you go? Hey, maybe you guys should fuck it. At least pay taxes. Maybe that's the deal. They cut jail. For the kids, but you got to start paying taxes. Well the not prosecute him because people aren't screaming for it. What's really interesting is that if you look at some of the things that people are really rallying about today. What you would call it social Justice warriors, people are rallying around so many different causes those, those people that are rallying around all these causes supporting antiga doing this protecting this and going after that. With or not doing is going after that church. How come they're not shouting from if you really want Justice if you really want to do good in the world? When you wanna stop the pedophile when you want stop that if you didn't you don't see that it's too scary for people so big they got their own country. The Vatican's basically country. The their own passport. Stark, it's dark when people look like they feel like they're doing progress and then you're not stopping that you're not like your concern is what, what's your concern, the sculpture of the resurrection scene that no evil? What is that? It's a -posedly. It's supposed to be Jesus rising from the but it looks like it looks it looks like hell, yeah. Sculpture of the resurrection. Yeah this momentum. They gotta surp-. They got a serpent cathedral where it looks like the serpent tag, it's crazy stuff. You've been nobody. I've seen it on YouTube. You've been idiot, it'll yet now you should go. Dude is insane. It's so insane. The Vatican so insane. It's absolutely worth. You went into the Vatican. Yeah. It's amazing. The artwork is off the charts. You can't believe it. Saint Peter's basilica that's it. Who fucking me? That that's supposed to be something about bro. That looks presents Christianity gate in front of Marilyn Manson's house. Something Marilyn Manson would be rocking. This is their people up enough of eat. Make a great photo show would be an amazing gate, right? If you like to alternate horror fiction writer, like Stephen King bought a house knowledge would hills that was his gate. Look up the, the erection Pete put serpent cathedral Vatican. That's, that's crazy, dude. It's it's like a snake so there's a, there's a thing in there called Saint Peter's basilica man, you you've never seen anything yet life of that. Come on, man. That's crazy, man. That's crazy. It has the eyes of a snake, the head of a snake. And the fangs that is where you can see that resurrection thing, right? Oh my. Oh, come on. That's amazing. That's amazing. Do if you were dating a girl and show like couldn't do. Jesus, Jesus anywhere, if you were dating girl, and she's really into witchcraft. You'd wanna fucker right right in between. Maybe I wanna take you to the Vatican sneak away. I'm going to bribe somebody, I'm gonna fuck you between the teeth. That's scary imagine. They just had a bed, you could borrow. And what if what if the pope is really the king of the world are going about their was crazy would've is though. So it's definitely not as. He might be might be the most powerful man. So let me ask you this. What do you think about all this alien ship? It's going on right now. All this UFO shit. What do you think that as a distraction the stuff that's going on right now? Just got d class. They're trying. That's what it is. The FIS the Democrats are you kidding? That's going to bury a lot of people going to jail. So you think that's why the UFO stuff is out there. They've always been about UFO's really that they do that. Like they have certain UFO cases that they say, listen, if anything gets weird, we're just gonna let this motherfucker lose who and we're gonna tell people listen. We've seen the aliens. We've got a hold of them. We've got a alert congress. We've gotta talk to people, and then people started just forgetting about corruption forgetting about the BP oil spill forget about whatever the fuck is do. The aliens are coming. You trust me. Yes. They've been talking to the government. You know what my argument against it has always been. Why would they talk to the government if you're from another fucking planet, like we when we visit chimpanzees we don't say he was the number one champ. We, we want to bring you bananas and sign a peace treaty with you. We don't give a fuck who the leader is get out of here. You don't get special deals. You don't get special deals. Oh, the top champ made a deal to let us kidnap some baby chimps. So he could bring him to the zoo. Yeah. Her the fuck out here if they're coming here from another planet, they must be so much more sophisticated than we are. They're not gonna listen to us. We're crazy. They're doing it for several reasons. In my opinion, and one like exactly like you said, when there's for distractions and right now, they're going heavy with it, but, you know, Werner von Braun the last four years of his life, yet cancer, and he had an assistant and you watch it on YouTube. Dr name is Dr Carol Rosalyn, and she said that he kept telling her over and over. Is there preparing like on his deathbed? They're preparing for a fake alien invasion. That's what they do. They're trying to scare us into a new world order on time and she got the button. No, no, she. She doesn't say why he goes. He never told me why he just kept telling me, they're all the stuff you hear about aliens, and asteroids. It's all fake. I there's going to be a an environmental threat that they're gonna scare everybody with global warming is my opinion in my opinion. Then there's going to be asteroid threats and then the final one and she says it's and he kept saying this, because the final one, the last one, they're going to do is the fake alien invasion. That's gonna that's why there's movies like independence day. It gets everyone used to. Oh, we're all going, let's call China and Russia, and we all band. It's, it's to get us prepared for a new a one world government. That's what it's really all about the aliens and all that the Nazis doing that to their own people. They made in the when I was balls deepen the UFO community, we, would, you know, they would they would show us that, you know, there's pictures of the German UFO's and in the UFO community, we looked at that is evidence that they must have found crashed UFO's, and then they're trying to reverse engineer. That's what everybody in the UFO community. Thanks. But when you look into it, do they were trying to scare their own people to look for the government, they're just staring. Science fiction had flying saucers before flying saucers were something that the government, or the German, you look at the time and try to create, so I think they would try if they were trying to freak people out and make it seem like it was aliens. Yes. Exactly. So, so we'll war. Twos over would it? Have papers. Operation paper clip nine hundred forty five nine hundred forty six we bring in over all the guys that ended up creating the CIA, and NASA were from operation paper Clint. So right away short NASA. So when you look at this, if the Nazis were trying to scare their own people with fake UFO's. They must have came in and said dude, you guys aren't on the UFO shit. You gotta scare your people. So that's exactly when all the comic books were all these days. Wait a minute. So the Germans were scaring people foes before the United States. Really this is the thirties that is it. Listen. If you're going to be a master of propaganda, like Hitler was right manipulation and propaganda. That'd be the movement who wanted to go to more than who wanted to control the world more than that guy that guy knew how to do it in. And it's an old idea, it's an old idea way. Everybody the old, the ancient Roman emperors. They all want, they'll dreamt for that one world government. They couldn't pull it off. That was no way they could pull it off cause you the only way to make a new world order, actually happened is you've got to get the people to embrace it. You can't force them into it. So you got a mind fuck them to embrace a new world. You've got to make them want it. Otherwise, they're not interested in their own little trucks. Exactly the problem, the little rulers were like do we do one world government. I'm out of a job. Fuck you so it's impossible. But they knew they fear is, if there was some kind of alien threat, they built you remember Reagan talking about xactly. When you're in the UFO community, you take that Reagan speech from the UN, and from the CF are, and you look at that as proof that there's aliens. But now I look at that when you look at him. And like at the CFR, he goes wouldn't all our jobs, Bill, little bit easier if there was some sort of threat from extraterrestrial threat. He's taen says the rue his well, it's not exactly what said, no, no, no. I'm talking about a different when he didn't say two different through all know a bunch of them. He was on a mission to get everyone and putting but he's making it sound like humanitarian like wouldn't would it will all our differences, just seeing diminish. If there was some sort of extraterrestrial threat that was getting everybody used to this shit. We're gonna come the UN pulled off. They, they can't do up a now we're approaching the we have the technology now holograms now we can do it. It's always been for hundreds of years. They knew that they knew that they couldn't pull it off, how you gonna pull it up, the due to know how to make that shit or making movies. When you imagine what are you saying, I told you about this last week? You said you didn't see. It was talking about the military industrial compo. Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh, let me hear that here. That was that free use talking about sports the president. Right. Is he talking about space for no, reassure people? You're not looking. This is Fox News, man. You can't play this, the news FOX. It's like a clip from Fox News, the news. Yeah. But I think you'd get pulled for the planet I won't play it but the new play. Okay. Let me let me hear him say this is my friends, Steve Hilton show and don't kid yourself, you do have a military industrial complex. They do like war, you know in Syria with the caliphate. So I wipe out one hundred percent of the caliphate. That doesn't mean you're not going to have these crazy people going around blowing up stores and blowing up things. He's a seriously ill people. I don't want to say, oh, they're wiped, you know, ISIS, but I wiped out one hundred percent of the caliphate, I said, I want to bring our troops back home to place when. Crazy. They want to keep you have people here in Washington, they never want to leave. I said, you know what I'll do. I'll leave a couple of hundred soldiers behind. But if it was up to them. Bring thousands of soldiers in someday. People will explain what you will do have. That's fucking heavy now, stop right here now, if that was from anyone many normal person, you would say that guys out of his fucking mind. That's a conspiracy. There's no one wants war, but you hear that from the actual sitting president of the United States, who has no reason to say that, like, why, why does he have a reason say that it must be an excuse for why he didn't pull everyone out one hundred percent. That's an that's really overlooked insight. And that's part of the problem is that so many people hate Trump, that even when he says something like that, that we should listen to because it's coming from the president of the United States while he's a sitting president and wise talking about pulling people out of troop out of war. And people still don't wanna listen because it's on Fox News. And because it's the president because people, so many people hate the president. They don't wanna hear about this, that should be something that's talked about the, the D classes about to happen shit. There you think so. Well, it is the decline that's about to happen. It's you know what does that mean? These declaws, if he cash advisor applications at declares everything involved in how the Russian investigation started. Right. That's the problem they were tr there's evidence, this is coming with the FIS d class that Trump wasn't supposed to win. There's text message is going back between a two FBI agents right saying, well what if he wins and goes, he ain't gonna win? He's Hilary's gonna crush them like a zillion to one and this, but what if he does win? These are text messages have been released a anybody can do that want to keep going you his so bad folks were back from Pittsburgh. We had to go. I've been drinking a lot of water lately. I'm trying to be super healthy me too, man. I thought Pellegrino was good enough. I thought. There's no way there's bubbles are good for you. You know what I mean? Look, let's find out. Dentist's saying, then? What would happen to your body? How if all you drank was with Perrier and Pellegrino, and that's it. No forget about the teeth. The overall health with your body so much about the by it's by your teeth is what that is. No. But forget about the teeth just water, but you can't get but the carbonation got it doing something to UT is all it's really doing. I wonder if it's something to your organs to or something. So something to your teeth because of the carbonation, it's got that's got to be it's just watering carbonation. So where's the carbonaceous at nitrogen in the water? Like, what's, what is the carbonation science? John, man. I hope it's great for you. I hoping. Assez higher city. Oh my God. It's bad for you. Can't be good. Right. And that's all drinking for a while I was happy with myself because I feel good. My vice was Coca Cola. Right. So it got me off coke. I don't give a fuck about coke and got off and I'll drink coke every now and then but I'm not I used to be like, I want it like with meal. If I went out to a restaurant had ever foot and coke. Now pellegrino's. It's totally satisfies me. I'm good. I'm good with it. But then I just got away with. I just kept drinking just that I think it's better than coke, but it's not as good as water. I'm going to go with that. Yeah. It's gotten way better than coke. Right. Coke is the worst. But why is it so delicious to some, some food? You just want a cold diet coke, with, like, if I have a fucking cheeseburger, I know I'm already not eating healthy fucking diet coke. Why are we playing games? Right. You know that feeling is that get enough with for me is good enough with your burger. It's, it's satisfying. But if. You're going to have a burger and fries the best. God damn guy coke. You work in the gym diet diet, like regular coke regular. I don't like regular coke too syrupy. It's just too hard for me. It's Jamie's like miss it. Because Jamie's midwest midwest, they give it to their babies. They're put in bottles and shit. Call hop can bottle or no. A base coat abreast bottle was asking coke denture poli in a bottle. But you like the styrofoam only to pull got a weird flavor. Coke that I really liked that. Got me back into drinking Chipotle lay has their own people say McDonald's coke is the best. I highly disagree all the same. Now it's definitely not yet. They have different flavors. They send a strain with different original tastes on the label polo which. Like which you make a deal with coke, and you don't know which flavor you're getting, let me ask you this. Do you think Andy Reid is being heavyweight champion of bring Mexicans and the rest of America closer together? I think so what if he starts fucking everybody up, what have you FOX up everybody? What if he becomes the man that would be amazing? Vivo may go man. Crazy became interesting. Right. Like what Joe Louis was or what Mohammed Ali was during the civil rights movement? How about that? Let does record has he ever things thirty one and one one loss? But it was a split decision to Joseph Parker. Who's a legit world-class fighter? So one decision twenty nine. Yeah. He's young young guy. And he's fucking good man. Like he's good people get confused because the way he looks that motherfucker throws hands in the way he punches superfluid. Everything's like. Coming up. I'm nasty combinations like way quicker than most heavyweights way quicker really interesting man. You watch him fight like, wow. So the fights, the fight is him versus that bronze bomber guy. Well, I would imagine the fight is the rematch in England and fucking Wembley arena, some shit in front of a million people, that's probably the rematch, and if he fucks him up Cam, which man, I don't know what happened in that fight. Vote if I Tyson fury to right? Oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah. He could fight Tyson fury. I mean Andy can fight Tyson fury and he can fight. Deontay wilder, but the big money, I think, is in the rematch, that's probably the big money is. And then the problem with that is man. All of the sudden that heavyweight division looks good. It's great right now. This is good as the heavyweight division. It's been decades. It's amazing right now. But the most exciting is Deontay because flatliners people with one shot and this crazy way. And he's, he's just built like. He's built a giant, Tommy Hearns almost like you know, when he just he just got crazy. Power, man. His power makes me just put my hand on my hand and go, what the fuck you think Francis. And Ghana hookah box. I, I know he could box what the top at the top level. No, I mean, I think he could with training, but he's a little older to Francis is held, how old is Francis. I wanna say he's thirty four he started fairly late in life learning how to fight in period, but he's so big, and so powerful men. What does he thirty two thirty two's? That's young. Let's pretty young. He's, he in my opinion is the most dangerous one punch guy I've ever seen. He if you make any mistake with that guy. It's heavyweights just go flying across the room a Franson. Gano versus Andy REEs would be big, and your reasons a way better boxer. So he's a way way way better boxer. It's a big difference. Says it hundred amateur fights, people would see it just like people wanna to see Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor. Yeah. But it's kinda the same in the same way that, you know, you know, Conor McGregor knocks people dead in the UFC and he know Floyd. Mayweather is the greatest boxer of all time of all time. I mean he's probably the most skillful defensive artists, we've ever seen and fly, you know, Floyd got hit a couple of times the thing about Francis in Ghana is, I think even with big gloves. You can't let him hit you like that. If he gets elected Floyd Floyd got hit with that uppercut by Connor Connor just kinda placed it there. He popped him. It was a good shot before. Didn't get wobbled. He didn't get dropped. If Francis had somebody like that. I don't give a fog, who you are. If he hits you that Alastair over him left hook that he hit Alastair with get the fuck out here. No one's arrive in that he just seems like he the way he knocked out Cain. We clip them with that little short uppercut and Kane. Seemed like he didn't even know hit. Yeah. I mean he hits stupid hard like crazy ridiculous off the charts hard. I think when he hits people, they're just like what in the how the only guy who's been able to survive that shit a bay. And of course, Derek Lewis, but they just didn't do much to each other in that fight. Everybody else he touches you that shit and you just go flying. He had so goddamn hard that if he just went into boxing straight instead of you have seen fuck knows man. He could be the fucking heavyweight champion in the world like legitimately if you stop and think about how quickly Deontay wilder went from boxing to earning a bronze medal in the Olympics. It was a year and a half. Meanwhile, there is exceptionally talented. Exceptionally powerful. Unbelievable one punch knockout power. But so Francis. Like Francis has chosen to go that path fucking knows man. Who knows? If he wins, had a wrestle, when we really learned, how to wrestle on, really learn how to submit people can imagine where everybody has to stand with them because you scared of him on the ground. I mean he's at two hundred sixty five pounds natural and shredded the way he is with unbelievable power. That's just a super unusual case that guy could have any any combat sport. If you wanted to kick boxing, same shit, be fucking everybody up hit so God damn hard. He hits people you just go yards. It's hard to learn to jitsu once you already famous. That's a team that is draw the time. It's tough because the only way to get to correctly is with one hundred percents marring, and you don't do that with your wrestling, Roger with wrestling. But you can't go hunter percents. Bollywood wrestling, because there's no you don't do that. What you've striking. You don't do that. What they're striking not that much. Yeah. Yeah. But it's policy once you become famous, it's very hard to go one hundred percent with just anybody. You know what I mean? It's there's a lot on the line. Yeah, it's possible. But it would have to be well engineered by a really good manager. Brian, like someone like a Dan, Lambert, and comes along and says, this is how we're going to do this. We're going to take this as a project and we're going to bring in wrestlers, and these guys are gonna specifically work with you on these very specific drills. We're going to help you get up and help you stay up and we're gonna we're going to this is what our job is our job is now this, we're gonna turn you into the heavyweight champion the world. But it would have to be like, someone who had a real specific group of guys that knew the goal and it wasn't eagles involves was, you're not going to bring in some guy's gonna try to out wrestle hurt him or not come out or do anything. They they're they're working for the goal. But that's hard to do. You know, everybody has their own ideas. You know, it's one of the real problems that fighters have at a really high levels, finding people that you could train with that are commensurate and skill level, but they're not trying to take you out. You know, to age other like imagine. Imagine if Mark Kerr got balls deepen edgy jitsu and got he would have been he would have a longer career. That's for sure. And you know if he got good on the back, see that with recipes every now and then, like after six seven years, you see, like, oh my God. They're taking the back down their children. People out. You saw that with John Fitch. You know, took a while, he, he was just cool with ground and pound. You getting the take down and then slowly start? He started seeing him pass and, and take backs. And then he took. Anthony Smith, choking of crazies up. Yes. They did it with a broken hand. Yeah, yeah, man. That was, I was pretty crazy. A fucking. Dude is the real deal. He's the real deal. John Jones FICO. I don't remember John Jones is how classroom he was a head of him. He knew what he's gonna do before decision. Yeah. Five rounds? Five around us. Yeah. Okay. Dominant decision. John just I mean he lived there knocked down. He got hit. I mean definitely got hit. He got he took some shots, but he was fine at the end of it early in the fight though he showed he looked very, smooth very fluid in the first round. He looked very good. Very composed considering world title fight against Jon Jones. I mean, everything he did when he's moving wasn't exploding wasn't blowing away any nervous energy fought very technically. Very good technical stand up and just look. John is just John John's on another level. There's everybody else. Then there's John Jones sin other level. He knows when you're tired, too he you see him when he he senses like any any time. Where you're trying to catch a break. He senses, it, hey, he starts rampant, it up and moving towards kicking your legs. So you see it smells blood. He smells blood. He's a fucking straight up killer. Man. He just knows. There's a lot of aspects to his game that are very interesting. But he just knows how to feel where a guy is, he knows the distance in terms of knowing how to feel where a guy is in terms of how far away the guy is from him because he's the best ever utilizing long reach. But he also knows where the guy is psychologically know he knows when guys are physically tired knows who's fighting next. He's gonna fight TI Santos. I don't know too much about how my God that guy. Throws X more of a registered. Oh, yeah. Way. More way. More mo-? He's got a giant hammer tattooed on his chest knocks people in another dimension. He's a beast, man. Legit beast, which is not. That's isn't that August is an August in LA. I think that's the Anaheim card. I think my Megan that up. It's fucking fight, though. Great fight for as long as it lasts. Who knows you know that guy he can knock anybody out swings wild, but John's should be a heavy favourite going into the fight. John fights on the July card. Oh, it is July card. Oh my God. That's right. Deep bay and stats. Right. That's where you're confused. Anaheim St. pain, TC, John Jones versus taco Santos says that was on steep NBC's is on. Yes. Yes. Paul Costa's also re booked for that. That's Anaheim as well. Right. Yellow Romero Pollock cost the best body ever fight. They're fighting for the best body ever. That's what they're doing like who's the king didn't win. Yes. Well, you might never fight again. He wanted twenty seven million dollars. Hi, give up. How did because there was a supplement company that had tainted supplements legitimately. They tested them independently, and they found out this shit is it's tainted and makes people piss hot for steroid tests. So he sued them, the question is whether or not, he's going to be able to correct collect rather because, you know, when you sue someone they can go bankrupt, like they're a corporation, that's why someone forms an LLC. So they've got some steroid tainted shit an athlete. Susan, I wonder if they actually have to pay or if one that they could just disband the company because twenty-seven millions a lot of money, you know, who knows the company might not even be worth twenty seven million. I don't know what the company is do you know what the company is? What's the name of it old gold star performance? That's a big name. I've heard that name before have you heard that name before? I think that's a big name supplements. He don't want man anything that blow them up. It'll be worth it just Pam. We're gonna make a hundred million because people are going to jump on it. You know what I mean? Like people hopping right, professionally oh shit. Yeah, that's true. Right. Given the shit that Hector Lombard piss dot for one hundred percent that shit that shit's on you and get a thick on neck. What's up Jamie thing they got what if this is the right company? I just looked up and I tried to type in revenue, they're doing. All right. Yeah. How much they're worth? I don't know if this is the right company, but the one I just found says they did I got a cash balance of ninety six point five million as of December thirty first gave up twenty seven million to the Cuban baby, the actual same company. But it's got this name at least abundance company, let's say it is that comedy come on give up that money. I wanna see Yoel Romero just covering firs gold chains shit this living like a pimp. Well, I wanna see Yoel Romero in like a some sort of crazy gazelle skin coat with, like full six pack just. No minks. Right. Makes it'd be better like some something crazy just twenty seven million in the Bank. Not giving a fuck twenty girls around. Just I rapping and human you. It's pretty good. Fucking guy. He's the freakish athlete I've ever seen. He moves so fast. Sometimes you like like what like he when he fought Chris wideman, I remember when he landed that flying Neil's, like, oh my God, that guy could do that out of nowhere out of nowhere. You, you can never sleep on him because he'll, he'll like lulls you into this false sense of everything being. Okay. He moves. No. You know, he just moves slow move slow he move away when you kick them almost like he's conserving energy, and, oh, we just jumps on you. It's amazing to see a guy like him at forty years of age be that fucking explosive, you know. Iran at forty with that lawsuit shit in my life fight. He might go. Maybe once a fuck up Paulo Costa, and that's a wrap and be after that fight. But if you actually gets the money, that's the problem, it's all bullshit until the money's in your Bank account, because they appeal and, you know, the dragon into appeals court, which they probably will. Right. Magic ears took years. Yeah. Yeah. Then the meanwhile if they have that money they could just invest that money, just make itself back and then give them what they invested with here is your money didn't cross the shit. I could do that, too, as long as it's long enough. Maybe they have like five hundred million than I twenty five million a whole supplement world is a weird world. It's very weird. We had problems with on it with alphabrain early. We are alphabrain had other shit, and different vitamins and weren't supposed to be in there. I'm like, what is this? We had to change suppliers. It's tricky man when you're making stuff, and you're not there for every step of the way you hire companies to do it like, how are they doing it? How are they mixing? It was the, the VAT. Look like did they clean that shit? You know, and then somewhere down the Ron like T Tim means he was another one member. Tim means Tim, the dirty bird, so bad motherfucker. He same thing pissed hot for some shit. That was just some over the counter stuff they found it, but they, they gave him like six months, I think if you owe a long time to didn't they, they give them like six months or something about. They gave him a long time. It was like six months, which apparently were twenty-seven million. I john. Boone twenty-seven nice, number two, men, six months suspension. Yeah. Whatever if, if he gets that twenty seven million, he won't give a fuck about that six months to spend have you had twenty seven million clean in the Bank that you don't have to pay taxes on. Is that how it works? You gotta pay taxes. Do you when you get a lawsuit that seems some of them are details like why not? It seems seems ridiculous. Why would the government you could keep that? Why would the government get a piece of you getting your? I know but isn't that nuts? They get. But that's funny. Like they've ruled that you got damaged. So someone has to give you money to make up for all the money that you lost. You lost twenty seven million dollars worth of revenue we're gonna make it right. You L so they give him that twenty seven million dollars in the government's like not so fast. You might have lost twenty seven million, but we didn't get our piece. I bet pay taxes, if you didn't have to pay taxes on things. Imagine how few people would pay taxes. You know, it would be like if the IRS wasn't so fucking ruthless. Chase people down. It would be like those things we you bought ninety nine records for dollar. Remember that when nobody ever paid for the club? Yeah, they would send you the cassette penny. Yeah, there was like a penny, and you'll get like us to pick these get to pick this. Oh, REO speedwagon, who Billy, Joel stranger, and you get to check off the listen to whatever pays no one paid. I don't know a single person that pay they tried to chase me. Now, maybe they didn't want the money. They just wanted to spread the music. Maybe they did. Maybe it was a scam. Maybe they had insured themselves against a certain amount of loss, in certain amount of suckers paid because they did harass you a little bit. They'd send you letters like, hey, man. Since you all those kiss. Cassettes? You have. I'm back to us. Yeah. Remember, the did you do that Jamie, Columbia house suppose called Columbus, right, Columbia records, send you shit like a boxer sheet at one, I don't want hall and Oates was it Columbia. House records, Columbia records house. It was a club TV guide. There was always insert to does the first time I found out about well actually late night TV about Cy Dianetics. I didn't know dynamics of Scientology. I thought it was like, you know, you got to kick ass take on the world away from your insecurities, and your fear drag you a little bit further. Drag you in with a volcano and smart. They're showing the volcano on the commercial, it's way better than, than, like those due to see three way overpasses that are screaming. Jesus says, Jesus. They've like dude, nobody from doing this. You bring a nobody to Jesus man, but it's smart. You don't tell them you want to get someone in Jesus. You don't tell them about Jesus, you know, you just itself. Help the real way to get someone in Jesus is to lead by. Jesus is example, and be a really good Christian. Someone says, well, why are you such a nice person say because I'm a Christian and a real Christian is a really nice person. The person be like damn. I wanna be a really nice person and say, well, once you come to church on Sunday. And next thing you know you go to church. Really aunt. That's how you do it. You can't be on the corner of Hollywood Boulevard and the brea. But then when the corner you, you took for saying that. Don't you see? You got pretty. Pretty. That's going to be cut up. Guy seemed demonic to me, man. He creeped me the fuck out that creeped me out, man. 'cause used to tell people things like that seems to yell at people point his finger out. Long, fingernail that you. Don't you don't you say I did. It make a great team. Imagine what it must be like to be a fly on the wall. One of those billion dollar preachers, just in moss be getting pussy. They must be oh, has to be right. Of course, has to be top shelf there, but flying them in from Czechoslovakia and shit. Just the crew of in on a fucking Hilla cocaine. It's crazy how they got a bunch of actors and plants and all that shit. But it's crazy how they get people to believe it, and they get put in trances and shit. And, you know, some of them over acting. But some of them are, like, you know, there's a certain percentage of people that are hypnotized. What is what is it like, you know, maybe it's the people that didn't get sucked into pro wrestling pro wrestling could have got him. They would have believed that, that was real. They missed that. And they got got sucked into like the snake handlers percentage. Just think because when you go to the hypnotist shows the scam before the show like this considered the scam part before the show. They go into the audience, and they find people that are easily hypnotize. Right. So then they bring them out of things they do they let you be aware that they might call on you. And so just to make sure that your story matches we would like to know what whatever happened to you is there something that's bothering you so that we know that when Cindy the magnetic. When she calls out to you that your story matches up with a piece of paper, there's a little weird tricks deal with asked them to fill out these forms. Talk about their childhood that's psychics. Yeah. For sure like, like listening to people talk. But I'm talking about preachers do that. Hypnotise shows they take like a couple, maybe they take one and they hypnotize him then they wake him up on and make them do weird shit that they don't remember, you know. Yeah. Dude, I saw that before I've seen, so that's real. Oh, it's real. So there are people percentage of the population who knows what it is. Maybe it's ten percent. Maybe it's sixty percent who knows. But there are people that can be put under a spell on under spell in it. They could be in a trance. Yes. While they're awake. They're awake. And they do something under command with without any control and they don't remember it. And then they get snapped out of it. Yes. All that's real. Yes. That's creates a varying degrees, but it's real in live audiences, which is particularly weird. Yeah. Frank santos. Are rated hypnotists was a staple in Boston, when I was coming up when I was an open mic. Frank actually, even ran a comedy club at one point in time. And his, his son is a hypnotist now Frank Santos, he would do stitches comedy club me, and Greg Fitzsimmons, Nick, dipaolo, and all these guys, we saw him do this, and he would do it on a regular basis. It happen every week. He had one night a week where it wasn't just that club. It was one hundred we get stitches, but it was like one night a week at Nick's comedy. Stop and one night. A week at giggles. Sorry. But he would get a bunch of people out of the audience, and he would have a bunch of own tears, who wants to volunteer, and you get the people on the stage and everybody will go. I can't believe we're here. And they would hip and ties Mond hypnotized and hypnotism and do this thing. You're getting sleepy. You're gonna listen to me. I'm gonna count to five and when I count to five you are going to be doing pushups and underneath you is going to be Madonna, and she's going to be naked. And he would do it would work on some people look at people who is you're not under come on come with me, and would get rid of them, but then some people would just be under and you'd be like this isn't real, this is real. But then you would see your friend go up there. You would see something. You knew go up there. And you would see people see their friends go up there and wouldn't they couldn't believe on the person was really doing it. And you could tell they're really doing, and they'd be so embarrassed, they'd be so embarrassed when they found out that they did this in front of these people. What? Yeah, you came in your pants like some guys would actually come in their pants that would come in their pants. He would tell them on them account to three and number three, you're gonna come in your pants. One two, three. You gotta be like oh, he'd him get like super embarrassing. These are. Good actors, you could see the embarrassment their phase, there would be wilder. There were so confused it what happened. How did this happen, but it wasn't everybody? You'll wonder if there's probably couldn't go under. If there's a I would love to see a documentary on people getting hypnotized and like, proving that it's real and doing different got hypnotized, hypnotized. Yeah, but I didn't get hypnotized to do anything I got hypnotized by Vinnie Sharman finish in the mental coach did he make you do things. You didn't remember hope not now. I just laid there, I get he gave it to me. No, I laid there and he talked me while I was laying there and one when he was talking me. I knew he was there. And I knew I was there and I knew I was just chilling on this couch. It wasn't like I, I was in a trance and I was going somewhere. And I was very aware that it was happening. But it was like he was put me it was put me in a suggestive state, and he was talking to me about various things that I wanted to work on mostly organization. And disciplined stuff like discipline getting things done in the just want something that I'm always concentrating on. And then when it was over it was just over I was awake through all of it. But it was weird. It was like a weird state. It was like as if like the regular world has like a crazy filter over at, like you. Then the yes. It's hard to guess I would probably say, yes. It sounds like. Hypnotize like the kind of like those dudes that don't remember and all that. But he doesn't do that, though. And I think other people can do that. And I think they do that to some people. But that's not what he's trying to do anybody with his, I think I'm speaking for Vinny. But I think that anybody can allow themselves to get into this suggestive state to get in the state of hypnosis, but that's different than the kind of people that will think that they really are having sex with Madonna on stage. Yeah, the people that really do come in their pants. Let's crates those locked in. There's something locked in about them. But it was one hundred percent real. You think those people the are easily hypnotize -able can be influenced that could be hypnotized by something on a TV screen. Maybe he's pasta Gamay, maybe whatnot. I don't know what that what is what's causing you to go under. You know what I'm saying is it just the words the person saying it is them looking? You're Frank Santos was an interesting guy is a very short fellow and this is coming from short guy and he had glasses and he's kind of like a big guy, and he's having those overweight, and it just seemed real unassuming and sweet and kind and soft and just Hello everybody. How are you? How are you? You know, and it just it's just talking to you, or you're gonna get sleepy you get. Ep could asleep you're sleepy, and they would just not off. It'd be like, whoa, what the fuck he just knew how to do it, and he would do it so calmly and confidently and he would do it every week. And every week we would watch some people would work on some people wouldn't work on. I wonder if anybody can do it. Anybody can put someone under trans, if they were taught the right way. And they maybe you gotta do is learn something or is it some kind of special gift? There's some I bet it's a skill a bet. It's a skill. But I bet it's just like having a good personality like some people, you want to hear them talk all the time. Did what if there's dudes like that, that they date and they're just little girls hit? Yeah. They're just looking for girls that could hypnotize to. They gotta live when they take him home. Make him do all sorts of crazy shit. I knew a guy who is a comic who also worked noticed, and he he'd hypnotize people, and I remember walking by him while he's talking to this girl. And she goes, no, I don't wanna be hypnotized. I remember thinking, what are you saying her? This back in the dizzy to. What if there was a hypnotist slash comedian that mastered, hypnotize ING people from the stage and laugh hysterically at everything? And so he just like kill crushing every night. Why think comedy is a form of massive Noces, it's funny. You say that because I think that's what's happening when you're locked in like, when you're locked in an everyone's locked into what you're doing, and you're killing there's these moments where it's like the audience sinks minds with you like hypnotism. It's very similar, because when you're killing there's this feeling that you get where you, you like it's an energy feeling it's not just us saying something, and they think you're so funny. So you feel so good. It's like you're riding this wave. And as long as you practice the material so much that, you know, where the beats are. And as long as you're so engaged in the material that you really are thinking about it as you're saying it. You're not. Bullshitting them. You're not just saying the words because they know new just saying the words they want you to be fully engaged. But there's these moments when you are fully engaged, and they know you are. And you you're riding this wave together because, you know, the material so much so that you could be fully engaged, but not have to think about what comes next because you know what comes next. But you're saying is if you've never said it before, and you're thinking of it as if you've never thought it before you thinking of it as, if you never said it before, and they're locked in, and it's like, noses. It's very, very similar. It's far as I know. I mean, I've never hypnotized anybody. But I feel like when you're killing it's a state of mind is like, you're, you're, you're achieving a group state of mind with all these people. It's weird. Yeah. That's why I say that looks specials are like at the very best eighty percent of what it's like to be there at the very best it's probably not even close. I'm probably being super generous with what a special actually, is in comparison to being there live like this. Sometimes I'll see a recording. And I thought that was better. I thought it was better when I saw it live, because when I was live and I was watching the person I was in the room. You know, I'm soaking up the laughs in the room, all people in the room. Everybody took they took a an Uber to get there. They got drinks. They're, they're excited pumped up the guy's killing you're locked in. You're in the room with these people. Keep believing that. And you're all feeling together at home. You're getting a fraction of that. Yeah. You know, it's like knows this man. There's an energy that's being shared, you know. I mean you've been doing a lot of stand up now. Don't you feel like that? Like when it clicks like there's an energy that is being bounced back and forth between two people between you and the audience. Yeah, for sure. I mean when it works, you know, I'm, I'm a blue belt in comedy. You know what I mean? You're like a coral belt red belt. You know what I mean? I'm pulling it off and it feels good. Even when you just pull it off at everyone's laughing. Good moments. Great feels those moments because it's so much fun. It's just like what I do after ju jitsu hang out with my, my students, and we just talk about the craziest shit for about ten fifteen minutes. And then I go home, but it happens almost every night, we're talking about crazy shit, and it's the same thing, we're making each other laugh. And when it works on stage, it's that time thousand and just, you know, when people are laughing and everything's working, it's great obviously, when it's not working, and they smell blood, and you're not feeling what you're saying kind of just going through the motions and that, that happens to me, you know, I'm still new in the game. That's hawks. That's horrible. That's horrible. But luckily, the first year you know, I was just trying to figure out what the fuck was. I was going to do trying to structure my sad. I smoked I smoked weed before I went onstage. I don't do that. No more I go on on stage. It's clear, clear minded, and it's way better because it's easier to remember all of the material down. You know of venture. I can, you know, go back to smoking weed like you before set because I've gotten the structure down, so well that I could just go up there. And it's like you know, when you when I teach and I do a seminar, I got that shit down on law. I really liked doing sober October a really like not smoking before shows too. It's fun. It's fun to do. It's different have a cocktail. You know what I mean? I couldn't even do that sober. October completely sober. I like having to drink. And then, you know, a Cup of coffee my blood guard like before I teach I have some coffee, you know, I'm over around. That's one thing I stretch out move around shadowed. Get my body lose. I just want to get the blood pumpkin. I just wanna feel looser physically. It's hard to know what when the you know what's when is it loser loser right now? Just just I have just a bunch of things that I do just start throwing knees loosen up my arms. Stretch my backout stretch my legs out, and, you know, when it works though, man when you're. Just like connected with the audience where I felt that the most so far was in Houston, a almost a year ago and just for some reason, man that crown away Saturday night. Yes, I caught away. They were all waiting to screen. They assume as I walked on stage. There were already laughing, I didn't say anything they were just all ready to go Curtis was there with priscilla's his fiancee. And it was it was. That was the best night so far. I mean as far as connection and man, you know, you you're chasing that you always want that, you know, you always want that same high, and then the next day in Austin, man wasn't. It was the opposite. We talked about this last time. You hear a rough set on Sunday on some going nice though. I'm good for you. Can I throw a little Houston plug not this weekend? But next Friday, June, fourteenth me and Sam Tripoli are doing Tim forehand comedy Friday in plano, Texas. Which is just outside of Dallas and then Saturday June fifteen were back at the secret group in Houston. That's where that was my, my favorite night so far. So hopefully, we could do the same thing again. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. But beautiful man. I'm really looking forward to going back to Houston. Yeah. Me too. I'm on a bunch of dates on Wednesday and Houston, Dallas or both on the menu. And then we're doing another date in Colorado, Colorado to two nights. Now twenty three and a twenty twenty-fourth at the belco Joe Rogan dot com for all the how about those Houston gigs used to do like back in two thousand four two thousand five member. We'd go to Austin those are some crazy. Huston was always for some comedy town to ready to laugh. Well, we're casting started, you know, kennison started their hick star there, a lot of great comics out of Houston. It was a good spot. So they had like, a, a real appetite from comedy, then, you know, they're, they're smart, people that are, you know, they're living in like a it's like a tech. Texas city. So it's like Texas. But it's also city Houston's a great spot. Yeah. It's one of the best. All right. Let's wrap this bitch up bringing home heavy Bravo people. Eddie Bravo you on Instagram? It's eddie. Bravo ten. What is it on Twitter? 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Don Frye, Sean McCorkle, and Greg Wilson | MMA Roasted #605

MMA Roasted

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Don Frye, Sean McCorkle, and Greg Wilson | MMA Roasted #605

"So I do. Greeting married, we were abused, you know from time to time once again for your favorite mixed martial arts podcast recording out of Los Angeles, California off their mom with Hunter that guy off. Hey, welcome to Brenda and they roasted podcast from here with Don Frye who has new Wi-Fi this it's like I love it. This is great man, as well as Greg Romero Wilson Thursday. It's going to be a great great podcast. Brendan Schwab sucks just to join the meeting. So Sean's here. I it's been a crazy day yesterday. I almost got arrested getting the vaccine War. You can't push the old ladies out of the way. You got to wait your turn. So what what happened was it says like anybody who's a gym teacher or a sports coach now? I'm a Gangnam Wi-Fi is what so I'm like all right, I coach a wrestling thirteen years ago. So my my wife comes in and she's like you can you qualify. So when I get it, I drive to Magic Mountain which you don't know. It's like an hour and half out of the way, you know down in line the whole thing I get there. They'll like, okay. Do you have a school ID saying you work there? No choice now the him again. All right. So now the Wi-Fi is terrible. So a new drinks. I know what James did so I like get there and and like we don't have a school ID because it's like an after-school program. That's like outside of the school even though it's right. Well, it's like they cut the funding in La they cut funding to keep people out like got their own kind of thing. Right? So I'm like no, but I'm like but I have pictures of me and kids and what sounds horrible month. So I'm not in the wrestling. Yes other photos off, but now I'm like one guy said well this like this doesn't count. So they're like, you have to leave. I'm like what I just drove it out and have to come back and 3:30 a.m. I'm at what do I need? She's like a pay stub. Okay. Now I go into my my my Chase app, you know, when I gotta remember my password and I like I'm looking for job. Like checks that I got like two years ago from eighteen to twenty-four hours, you know, like some kind of ridiculously low, so I'm looking at she's like exit you have to leave. I'm like no you suck to get a pay stub. I'm getting a out. So now I'm like, I'm not leaving Jesus. It's like so now she's like security. So six security guards walk over I'm like like you have to go she doesn't want to see I go off but let me just find she said you didn't have it I go. No I said I have to find it. I'm looking for it. I found it. Then I found the pay stub right now on the paystub. It says like, you know Paul Revere wrestling, you know, you know, that's cool kids. Stay after school. Like it says on these check like your like right you put a little shade sometimes sure. No, I didn't say that's like written on the check. That's like their logo to a lady walks over. She's like, what does it seem? Like it says where the cool kids. She doesn't count and walks. I'm like are you saying this kids aren't cool, but you know like what you're talking about. So so now like 10 p.m. Like you have to leave I'm like no. Listen. I've been coaching thirteen years fifteen years. I started high school program for the paly. I'm like, I'm not leaving because I'm getting a vaccination off. I don't have she's like, okay get the fire marshal the Fire Marshall walks over and now it's now he's there. It's me and my car. Oh my God. How does this up? And you are dead show. What's his name of the guy from Seinfeld? I'm like, I'm not leaving. It says coaches I coach and now I'm like winning some of these people over like like one of the Mexican dudes is like, you know, I think he's right, you know, he's got a point, you know, it wasn't where the security guards the nurses don't want to give you the shot. I know tell me why I should have everything like I have everything Fire Marshall Bill says no, right he came over. I'm like the main lady came over. She's like like dead. Going to call them like go ahead like you want to arrest me for what if I go to jail, they'll give me a shot in jail the prisoners. That's true. So so now now they come back I have to get a letter from the principal. So now I have to call my boss who that has to go to the principal who wrote a letter and email it to me saying I work for La you know, and then I end up getting my shot. But what what an ordeal? Yeah, what an ordeal so have you gotten your shot done? No wrong. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I'm not getting shot no matter what but also your story about how they were trigger reminds you when the UFC company they're like, no dude. You have to leave and I was like no way I'm still going to hang around over the events and all the fighters like dude. Listen, you gotta go like no. No, I'm still you'll be fine, That's hilarious when I was you know, that line that you're talking about your checks where you can add an extra statement there like where the cool? Okay. So when I like the first business checking account I ever had I think it was like twenty two years old. And so when I realized there was an extra line may still have the thing I was like, can you put anything on this line again, but I think of that line like name your business and then like if you want doing this as something whatever and so I thought about it for ten minutes of the first time I did I put in there anything in my teeth with a question mark and then this is the Northeast so you would still use the check at the grocery store. She would look at it off. They always look over I'd be like and then after that was don't touch my pants. It just said don't touch my life. They would read it. Look at me. Like don't even think about it. And then now on my specs it says you deserve the best that you can afford nice wage. That's why I was a gay porn company paid a trip down your now done. Your Wi-Fi was amazing when we started and now what do you do differently since the last six minutes? I don't know. You caught me off a couple of times some you when you guys muted be like two or three times and there's an echo like I talk and I hear an echo Greg. Am I right? Are you home? I go to it comes and goes. Okay. All right, so then all right. So Friday night. I had a show outside right on like it was like I don't know some nice like somebody else. Yeah, it was a nice hotel and I don't even know what I know was obnoxious. So it was a so I get to the show and I'm like the last Comic and I'm watching and I go on and the crowds great and then all it's like it's at a hotel because they'll tell I got up and I do a joke about I would never you know, I would never spanked my kid is twenty thousand one. I'm going to taser right? Some lady was like mid twenties early thirties kind of chubby blonde. She's like well still pays you back and I'm like, okay. All right so long, I mean this is not and she's like that's nice of you to a kid. That's a child that starts yelling at me. Right? Like I'm really going to taze my kid right then then she's like no you suck and I'm like listen. She's like you don't suck. Staying at this hotel. I have a room here and I'm like, what are you prostitute? Like? What do you want from like believe now? The black people are like rolling laughing is like I'm like, this is like I'm like, what are you to Karen of Comedy? Like I'm just murdering her so she gets kicked out and I don't know Greg you ever have a thing where like you do something in the crowd crowd were crazy when you almost can follow your crowd work with jokes. Oh absolutely cuz it's too exciting got into exciting. Yeah, which is exactly what happened. So that was that was that how is your mom cook more shows over big fight nights than for someone who runs an MMA podcast. I know it's amazing the way you never are available to actually watch the fight. No thought about fights since we all watched it down. Where do you watch the Vise this week? Yeah, my camera guy's house Tony. Oh nice. Now, what did you think of the main event style Bender against Young Buck over to you think of that fight fight to stay awake. You know, if I was the real fight, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it had so much hype behind it. You know, I think as far as Israel, he's a great fighter but there's weight classes for a reason if you're going to help twenty pounds and you show up eating pizza at the way in and coming and ten pounds off and wrestling isn't your strong suit and the one site that you look bad was against I mean against go Gastelum kind of didn't say look bad as a great fight, but Marvin vettori kind of took him down. It's going to be hard to stop a takedown from a guy. That's Thirty forty pounds heavier than you and that's pretty much what happened. I don't think Israel necessary look bad. He just didn't look great mccorkle's me look bad wage. I'm sorry. He said uses speed as what work. How come we didn't do that? I mean Greg, what are your thoughts? Well, I was on a trip to that. I mean he had the punch that you didn't have the power. He just ran into a guy there was just a lot tougher than he was he he didn't have enough power to knock the guy out with him and he just kept coming was able to use a strength and durability against him. I mean he had his mean he was and he was he was missing more punches than he normally does that which I felt very surprised that usually connects and a much higher rate. You just this guy think was a lot tougher than anybody fought as other weight division Sean. Yeah, man, John is overrated from a plus I said from day one. I always said wait till I get center with a really really good wrestler. We could take down is going to be always back and not be able to do anything. I was cracking up after how he act like it didn't bother him at all. Like if you're not sad at losing title fight. You're not very compatible. I can tell you that. You know, he's like, oh, I don't care. Oh, I'll rule 185 and I was just need help awesome would be to be that guy cuz like you could tell your wife or girlfriend. Listen, if we go out tonight if I start anything as long as they way I wonder 185. I've got him. I just don't understand that whole month. You understand that whole lot. I can beat up in Frank Shamrock used to say that he could beat up any man under two hundred pounds in the world. And then I was like first of all if you're actually a man, but then I thought he was overrated and I said the same thing about Emerson silver four years. I kept saying here so much great. Wait till he faces a really good rest lady guys with jail got manhandled, you know, he won but God put on his back and I even took Sonia have to fight talk about here. I was going to use my car to do this and that he looked like he looked like he had never rode in his life like on the ground. He he wasn't his hip out wasn't digging for an underhook wasn't trying anything. Just let him cry like a dog tell you what I'm glad I'm glad I qualify as a man via obesity or two hundred pounds a little bit off trying to excuse for not losing weight. It seems like everybody who got only there's no upper limit or I wouldn't be a man. It seems like that's the kiss of death was thinking about Jon Jones before they're fighting like a 205 ends up losing then Jon Jones gets on Twitter who's been said stop thinking about me flipping idiot. I just kind of rubs in everyone's face off like shit. You can't think about another bike you got to think about the one in front of you, you know for the last one month. There's one point that's a good start. You know. I mean when you fought was there anybody that weighed twenty Thirty pounds lighter than you that could have beaten you think? Absolutely, not. Absolutely. Not now. All right. So Amanda Nunez yikes. I mean wow home speed kills girls got everything. I don't know what they're going to do because that girl was the best at 1:45. It wasn't even competitive. I mean, it really wasn't even a yeah, you know, I was saying that they were just feeding her somebody to have her fight somebody but then on Saturday there was showing all the videos of her having this baby and looking all happy and comfortable and I'm like, whoa now, that's the only thing that could stop her his happiness. You know, we've seen that before then she got the ring like, oh, yeah. I know she's fine. She's a God or Jesus. Gave her halfway decent place. I mean as of recently there goes that beer back in the day. It just seems like speed kills, you know, and she just has enough juice a lot of power and power. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen. But that Division I don't know what one Ford. I mean there's a girl named Kayla Harrison who's a two-time gold medalist in Judo who's undefeated who who fights who could who could make 145 but the problem is she trains with her that that's her training partner. So they've they've they know what they're going to do to each other and I don't know how well this does seem kind of behind her as far as striking goes, but maybe that's the fight to make but Caitlin needs a bunch of girls before that, but that's probably the only girl at 1:45 that I can see if he can give me into trouble. I just can't I think that's kind of the problem with women's fighting in general. I mean the some of the smaller divisions have more of them ended but I mean, it's it's the fact that there's only so many good wage. And once they beat a few of the other ones is not a lot. I mean, they're like waiting for girls to get better and get to arwyn so they get this automatically get them into a title fight because they need somebody to fight. It's it's nice. I think that's kind of one of the problems with women's fighting although it's Julianna Pena. They're saying they're going to make Pena and I like that fight. I know I gotta go for my girl Juliana. I'm going to be rooting for her. That's my friend. That's my like legit. You got up hill battle. Don't get me wrong. It's got its not going to be easy. But do you think about pregnant that she is has zero fear. She's good. She's just she believes. She's going off at 5. And that's the dangerous. Now. Let's talk about the the aljamain Sterling fight cool. So give me the alternator quits acting class award. I was going to bring up the same thing it kind of birth. I feel like he's like I could just not I get a stop right here and I went like a million. I don't know it was cuz all of a sudden the interview but I mean he did get knocked off. What were you going to say? How does every group done? I mean, they're a couple but you know what? I've been yet my hard-earned he's having sex with a woman. Why are women meeting you like? What what what are you saying about? They're needing you. Real bad, man. They they move around eyes roam around. You know, he tells them he's not going to pay. Steffens up in Missouri women bit big-time any apples with algebraic spread it. Here's what he said. Well, first of all, she says he tweeted and the Oscar goes to fake Master for best actor of title fight and Peter Ian needs a crash course in the rules of the sport. He once was Champion. Hey Peter now, you're you're too bitch different kind of cheating on TJ Dillashaw taking EPO and then versus like not knowing but what I don't get is a couple things off not knowing you can't say not know everybody kind of stood there and it was like he kind of knew like oh, I can't kick em, and there's like bucket and just well, he said his life according to khabib who was working as Corners Corner told there was he was allowed to kick him. That's number one. I don't understand. Maybe it's Corner was like the same maybe like it was algebra his corner, but like in a Russian accent said name. As a people are saying that maybe but also one judge had aljamain winning that fight like that's yeah. Yeah, that's an idiot right there that they should censor the idiot to fucking skating ice skating. I don't think you wouldn't have any I don't understand how what what he was getting knocked down. He was getting taken down. He was almost stopped it was he was getting rag-dolled and I look look I like aljamain a lot. He's a friend and he's a great fighter. I think it was a case of he got too excited. He was trying to do everything at once. He wasn't trusting his instincts. He wasn't taking his time. He was pushing the pace way too much. He got off a plane for a five-round fight. It was almost like he was just trying way too hard to make something happen and that just worked against him when it didn't happen in the first round aljamain birth. Taking the rematch is going to be a lot better. I could see him cuz now he knows like don't do that but to his credit. This is what he said. He goes. I do remember asking how much time you have but I wanted to continue in this moment. I'm thinking of going then he goes I'm thinking you know why it's not to give me another title shot. The fights going to be a no-contest gain is going to say he was losing that fight in the fourth round. So why should we use them? Again? We already know the direction the fight was heading. So we're going to move on from this then me. I'm never going to get the opportunity again. I'm going to have to win three or four more fights to get back in this position for a world title. Again. That's your fault that your fault or your trainer when they both got bad advice when their trainers will start that way he goes for the fighters and said I melted good for young guys you guys ever see me quit or tap or want to weigh out when a guy puts on a half a sphere naked choke at a fine. You look around and go. Oh I can tap now I can quit now you guys are the freaking softies. I thought my ass off the exact. At times I was not going to quit now fight was I take my licking or find a way to persevere find a way to win like a man. That's what I do. I don't have the quitting me. There's no quit in whatever. I'm here. You guys may find it easier to talk about the Oscars and everything near the actors might be reflection of your own Spirits. I mean my God damn that that put everybody in their place. Oh man wage now like, oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah. I was saying that it shouldn't be up to the fighter to decide whether or not he can continue right the doc took the document that card. I felt like very odd too. I mean I kind of I kind of see his point though, like he knows he's not going to get a rematch based on he was losing the fight. I don't know if he thought he was he was in a win after that. I thought you said I don't think he thought the rules that maybe that he's going to lose regardless wage. It's like you know what I'll do better next time this way. I'm guaranteed a rematch. I think the fact that it was even thinking those things means that he was like or I could just take the d kill, you know, it seems like all the thought process except that one little part is there. Yeah, that's a lot of things you just somebody who was unconscious home. All right. So what would you have done in a position? What what would you have done if you were him and you got need in the fourth round? You're losing the fight. What do you do? Well, let's see. I probably have a big my DM me off to Optum at you know, and and Slot like a real man, you know, instead of sitting there like that, you know, the guy was a dummy tell the fox and you know, I didn't want the damn seat belt which he claimed. He didn't want the felt that way. Okay, then find put it put a hand in a bank vault and don't look at it. You know, they have UFC hold it, you know until the next website can be a rematch but don't don't fucking put it around your waist pack campaign album plastic, you know and act like you just fucking Indianapolis 500 I think he kind of figured luck if they're going to hate me make him really hate me fuk you go all the way go full. He'll you know made it look like it look like he got away with what I mean that made it look like hell right guys and see you know, if you are going to act like you couldn't have can be defined. I say maybe go to the hospital go home afterward, you know. Yeah, right don't be seen for a few days won't be like, I mean cuz it did seem like a switch flipped like the second you put on the headphone for the interview. You don't like Faith like Hey, Joe what's going on? Totally was surprised. I I couldn't believe like it did seem pretty dramatic shift there and the cork. Oh, what do you do if you're in a position? I've actually done it. I was going to say we already know what it would be Gilbert's poked him in the eyes like nine times and Dawn's eyeballs phone out saying I'm ready like after when the class is like I'm ready to go again. They didn't make a point. They still yellow card which means nothing but I actually in my last five UFC I knew going in if I lost I was going to get cut I get made in the balls repeatedly like two times in a row. I need the balls. I thought I can quit right now. I'll keep mine cuz we just qualification. I'll get the win. I'll still get a contract the UFC and I thought about it for 2 seconds. And I thought I don't have that in me. I just can't do it. Like that would have been the smarter move. It was trying to my detriment but I was like I kept saying it tells you before every event you get all the fighters together and Dana says we pay you guys a lot of money which is alive, but now he says we pay you guys a lot of money to fight we expect you to fight. He said I don't care if you grab well I don't care if you wrestle I don't care if you stand up and fight, but we expect you to fight don't go out there and hug each other dog. That's what that time. I thought I'll probably get cut anyway, if I quit now I could get me in the balls because no one no one likes that outcome and I was losing the fight. So I called this is perfect. I can get out of the loss going to teach you win so I can hear you but I wasn't really hurt and I just don't have I don't know called Integrity or Pride or stupidity or what but I don't have it in me to quit like that man. I just don't and like I said aljamain wouldn't have been doing complicated long enough problems in his head after the I mean, he's like doing calculus and algebra while answering Joe questions, you know, whenever like not really so hard he can't stand up and he's like by the way the square root of 950355 is 30 know I don't but he was a he was extremely well-spoken and not just said he was black but extremely well-spoken for a guy who generally employ us to be on being able to take off. I think that I think you're right. I think the warrior in me would have done the same thing and keep fighting and try to win fucking you don't want to go out like that. Although I could I could sort of as a businessman which I'm table. I do I could think of like, you know, I've guaranteed a rematch. I'll do better in the rematch. I could see you thinking that I can see someone you have to be an idiot not to think that often when we when would you have done a position? Well the warrior and me would say you haven't used this is the third grade. So I don't know. I don't know what you want me to do a what I'm all full up on drinking at the end of the day. I still like aljamain Sterling as a fighter and we can't discount the vote him off his his theatrics has contacted the key to everybody to Peter Young did still flagrantly violently kicking in the fucking head. Well, he was clearly moved down toward to these two feet ahead like he could have been more down. Yeah, but like but that whole rule though right of like okay, so if it's not one of them back up and his heads down and the guy needs you like is it going to do the same damage as his knees are both down. I mean down when you were started fighting there wasn't a thing right Knees Down. He's up. It was neat wage rules or no rules. No one there was no world. There is no rules and it wasn't it was in a cul-de-sac in Detroit surrounded by three bird dog houses and the Motorcycle get started now. Marker said he would open up a cut on you dig his thumb in the cut in the hole and then an antagonist thumb until I caused excruciating pain. Was that it like something something that you did too. No do that cuz cruciating pain, you know, like Mark Kerr like sticking parts of him in holes and other month. So you think that's that's why I'm putting things in a guy's holes. That's how long did it it was a yeah. Yeah, it was going to turn on, you know, you've injured his butthole finger I heard so oh God, but like Don like Gary Goodridge said that he removed the guys cup squeeze the guys down as he could and then he said he made peanut butter with the guy's nuts. I mean when you guys were like training back in the day, did you guys come up with like moves like that? Oh, yeah, I would have people to do that. You know. Hey tell me something that would be what time the question of jokes that don't get last month exclusively 75% Although during that fight though. Is he kept going for spinning elbows at a certain point you have to realize it's just not working. Like why every time getting something he got taken down. Yeah, you need a backup with this is elbow. You know, I mean figure figure out there's a long distance Factor on those things and you weren't quite generous. Yeah. I don't know what his as corner should I mean said listen man? No more spinning. Oh, I know he has great cornermen. I mean obviously dog Got like some of the best but at a certain point you're like, hey man stopped going like basic about us here Basics Basics Basics from the neighborhood. Nothing. He was doing them a favor is an old working with Peter Gunn. Yeah. I know. That's a tough. That's a tough one when like someone is dominating you in every aspect I may be but I think algebra do much better in that match. I think he's going to watch the tape. I think he said he better I do I really do. I'll tell you what they say. They're Champions 25% better off. I am the belt. So there you go. That's it. I'm going to I'm going to buy a belt where around the bedroom just like algebra a sterling problem. I'll tell you I'm just joking. Of course. This is a comedy show Islam makovich. I don't know how you say dog. Last name by chance something but he looked amazing again. I mean dominated over man. Wow, that guy's going to be hard to beat them that I don't know who's going to beat that guy. He just seemed like he was doing everything right those guys from Dagestan. Don't fuck around and I really think that khabib retiring wage is like almost like when Michael Jordan step down from the league everybody wants to be the next Michael Jordan and I think that like, he's adoring Dagestan. So all these guys want to be the next Thursday August and when it comes to fighting, you know, and that's that's so hard to understand cuz there's so much to do in that country. I mean the rep yourself away from all that entertainment value so to train, you know, it's quite impressive off. True, you know, there's only two professions their MMA fighter and wheelbarrow repair. Those are the only jobs available index and so kind of makes sense. Oh my God, this is the most woke podcast. Now, here's the thing now, I would just like to see what happens to those guys from Dagestan when they go to Vegas. I mean, they must flip out right imagine like growing up and down your whole life. Maybe they go to Dubai first so that they get kind of hair like this final lecture series all about. Yeah, exactly. They probably goes in the room and office furniture has been deconstructed and built into a fort and then you know, they got their wage. All right. This is chicken. Did you ever fighting Russia? No, no, I just went there once with California and came back with who with the back corner Cal were some and he plugged the tournament and his it was nice. I enjoyed it. You know, it was really beautiful really beautiful. What about you ever been to Russia wage know? I've been to Poland which was closed and a very similar I thought but yeah never to never to rush. I was talking to monocoque. Sometimes it's funny because you know, they gave her a million dollar signing bonus to run em one and not all this different stuff and he had up just skipping like skip out on that for a few months. He said cuz they were acting kind of funny but he would never go to rush after next he was positive. They were going to kill him. It was the funniest thing ever took a million dollars. Million-dollar corrupt he's they're going to come out to you. Yeah. Yeah, there's nothing funnier than feeling like the Russians want to kill you. I am I'm seeing if I learned anything from the Jason Bourne movies or taken or any of those is that when the Russians want to kill you, in sued and that and that you can defeat a professional assassin with a rolled-up magazine, you know thousand but by the by the way, Queen Latifah has stopped doing karate on T. I can't watch it man. Yeah, I think I mean there's like, you know, they you want me to like, okay find some of these like Marvel Jessica Jones beating people up cuz you gotta have like powers like you put right. I believe she has powers or But when reality starts birth Up like Russian spies. I'm like, I'm out. I'm out. I can't. Oh, yeah, I can't do you remember that movie Salt know which was what? What's your name is Brad Pitt's ex-wife. What's your name? That's pretty and she has her skinniest skinny and you know, and so she and she's like pretending to run like and she's like beating him guy. Like, come on guys. I could it was that was comedy comedy didn't sue when she faced those Russians dad. In fact was hilarious. All right. So rachi vs Santos, that was a boring fight. I kind of sometimes you got these two killers in there and they just sort of happens that way what I don't get is give me a guy a brown belt after a fight or he didn't know Jujitsu like I mean, he's a friend that a couple of takedowns. Maybe he was going to get a black belt wage. Yes black belt and they demoted like you know, what about the black make me look at my granny at that point. I mean, what are we what are you doing here? Like, why are we getting people? It just seems they were obvious going to give it to him about what but maybe give it to me. Like they're promoting themselves. They're promoting themselves. And that's what most of these idiots in the corner do anymore. I mean, they all stand there, you know for down their masks and jump up and down and you know, they do everything but shut the fighter out the way, you know, where it comes from taking a picture, you know discrete. I mean, it's not about you you fucken idiot. It's about the fighter and the price. Can you please watch the fights every weekend. Because it's so much fun to hear. It really isn't July. It's every honestly like it's this show is so much better when you watch the fights time. It really is like because that we're not just talking about like you haven't seen dead. Telling you what happened and then you're chiming in like the fact that you're getting so angry at this and you actually experience it cuz you know what happened and so as a fucking it's a whole different show. So please what you need to do is offer you need to make contact Adam with cameraman Tony and and and make sure the kitchen Tony is connecting with him to get him to watch the fights cuz that's clearly what's working. It's so much better now now Dominick Cruz Dominic Korea and that was one of those fights where the the veteran the guy who's been in there, you know, just he just outsmart the young guy. I don't think KCK look bad idea. He did. Yes. He did the fucking guy gasped out the third round off, whatever I can do to make it quite so bad. Fuck him. Yep. You talk to side. You've never gassed out in a fight. No. No. Wow. That's pretty that's pretty ninety-one. I went through withdrawals. What about your last fight with a guy that Tank Abbott a couple of what about what's the name of what like, what about your fight with Raven the wrestler song? Website memory. I'm just kidding. No, but not okay. So that's all right. Okay Casey County. I saw a picture of your grad student grads that joke of your out of your book. I'll fucking scratch. All right exactly Don Bryan never gas and he was hungover and coming directly from the north. So he said even even on like even like 30 Vicodins, you still never guess you guys now listen now after the fight Cruise called out Hans molenkamp now, they don't know who had campus. This guy is the head of Monster Energy or not. You have the head he works for Monster Energy drink and he's a guy that's like you kind of an influencer. He's always in like a couple of kick boxing events, but I don't know what exactly he does. He's always kicking things out of Fighters hands and laughing and sort of like a jackass thing. I guess. He sponsors Fighters. I don't know what the beat the guys like two hundred is a big guy. I don't know what the beef is. But Dominic hates them maybe got stuck in a contract with him. So he said he said he called out of Hans molenkamp at about everybody and he goes fuck. I want to do a kick boxing match against this guy wants to be a fight off his fake. He thinks he posts Instagram pictures and makes him important. There's a whole speech about Hans and then like, I guess Hans and Dana White got into it earlier a couple cuz they know has like this fucking guy says he knows me as opposed her but I don't know what this is, but I support it. I think call out whoever you want like fucking fighter call out fucking suck like that was hilarious. I mean, you know Hans molenkamp or what the deal is with that. I've never heard nothing. I did hear a rumor loads of His Garment Chris beef with his with him is that Dominic asked him out on a date like five years ago when the guy said no, boys were there issue started off and I did think they're watching I was amazed. I lost a bunch of money betting against dominik, but I thought man, you know why I should have known better because no matter what happened. That fight Damocles will be off with another guy later that night anyway, so either way if he was he's not some of the hottest women I've ever met you'd be the person know what you was married to when I was blowing. I mean, hey there boss David Bowie and Mick Jagger were both married somebody else at the time of the funniest shows. Like he goes. 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Don't forget to use that promo code clns 50 to receive a 50% Welcome bonus with your first deposit BetOnline your online Sportsbook experts check them out. So Joseph benavidez vs off a scar. I fight man. I kind of feel bad for about a beat as I almost think maybe I don't know. He's just it's hard to keep up to retire and that should definitely send him at least down to Bellator paracord. I think he's about done. Anyway those guys that looked I mean he got dominated man. They they keep giving them. These guys are like fifteen one that are like from Russia that are just Killers. It's just we're says the one who was it was asked by the one who was the very first like where the guy got the cut on the top of his head and it was bleeding really dead. And he could tell that every time he squeezed it just poured into the other guy's mouth. I think that was the first fight of the night in the early prelims. It was it was it was one with Kyra Phillips. Look great song you down. Yeah Cara Cara France, he he was getting his ass kicked and then just drops guy out and then stopped the fight himself, you know what the other guy got up and threw his mouthpiece at him. It was like the weirdest thing like but the fight should have been stopped but he once again kind of her being sort of I mean it's hard. I guess. Wow well because her but never whom never waved it off officially just went over there. So then he thought he might it might not have been called off and so he went over like he was done a bunch of em again, and then heard it was like wage over and that of course pissed off voluntarily me or whatever. His name was now McCorkle the king of the one punch knockout samarqand was that wage? You had that he was going to knock it out and walk away for you when you when you when you when you fought him. Yeah, I was afraid of what happened the first exchange to like that's what I kept thinking able to fight. I was positive I would I was polishing we're not be like listen. I'm not so much bigger him. I'll just charge him and tags. I'll get it on the ground one way or another and then as soon as I got within ten feet, he blasted me in my face and I was like, wow, he's really good with distance and really fast then it hit me again. And I was like, I just pulled guard I was like hell with this but I really was I was in Indianapolis my hometown watching it every single one of them every single one of them thought I was going to lose and see my parents. So who who he was he the guy who's the world's strongest man when you fought him how hard he hit? He can hit very hard all he had a ton of strength, but he didn't know how to apply until like when I wrestle with Tom Tom Erickson feels three times the strongest and when you grab with him, you know, he just I'm sure there's a stronger than Erickson but not when it comes to wrestling or you know applying it got it got it got it got it. And then Sean Brady this guy is going to be hard to beat man. He looks like a an acid trip down. His tattoos are fucking he's got the tattoo Greg that had like it looked like yeah, it was a Little Caesars Pizza the devil or something and yeah, yeah on his back and it's big too and it's just looking at it off. Yeah, but that dude is like those are the hardest guys. I think the fight aren't the guys that do one thing great the guys that do everything good or like everything really good and it seems like that's where like he doesn't seem to have any weaknesses. So cuz I feel like if a guy's a specialist in one particular thing, you might be able to isolate that wage. Okay, you're fighting a guy like Demian Maia don't go to the ground with him. Just don't exchange not going to yeah, or you finally been a screen kind of a similar thing. Don't get just keep the distance keep distance. Whereas a guy who does everything right? I got like GSP that's gotta be the hardest. Do you agree when you were fighting The Specialist versus guys everything right? What was the hardest? What would you rather fight off? Who would you rather be there to say like GSP took it in this conversation on your a black a black belt you get to your special boxer and you were a college wrestler, possibly an All-American. I think you were like a V alternate for the Olympic wrestling team. So I would hundred percent category. Like 15th alternate from the I had a better chance of making the women's gymnastics team off so don, I would I would put you whereas McCorkle I would say is a specialist. Did you see it was your thing? Right? I mean that was your thing. Yeah, but that part was I wasn't even very good at that. So it's like like it was fun at UFC at one point one point. They were talking to me about fighting Fabricio overdue. And I was like, how do I win? That fight? I do walk around with him. He's better than me standing up. He's got better cardio. So I probably would have just said three Hail Marys and thrown a wild punch and hope for the best. I wouldn't mind. Yes. So right I mean I mean, but you were a block off plus I think you have that like like I heard Shaq is a brown belt. By the way that true, you know, that's drink could that possibly be? All right great statement would be talking like things like the races. Well doesn't really matter what color the belt is. Well, we had Sean never met on the podcast right and Greg, you know shawne Merriman familiar sure from the Chargers and he's been training as far in like three days a week. He he wants to MMA you want to fight and Shaq want to fight and I think we should make that happen to American agreed to it. He's like a hundred percent who? Yep When's that fight Shack or Sean Merriman Greg shawne Merriman cuz he could probably still use his feet. I feel like he's going to be a pretty stationary Target Shack. I definitely would go Sean merriment McCorkle. Shaq is one hundred percent all talk. He's not ever going to fight anybody. He's not going to do anything. He just talks a good game. Like he always does but she can't find to save his life. He he going to find Charles brought up put on his back. It was ugly it all he throat punch it brand new or used to watch the NBA non-stop. He threw a punch at Brad Miller When Brad Miller wasn't looking I didn't come within three feet of hit. You know what he played the Pacers. So he she acts all talk to agent find anybody ever God. That was the Pacers. Now there was a fight Greg it was a medic vs. Cruz where am I got hit like seven thousand times and the ref didn't stop it. And I was yeah everybody was yelling. Stop the fight. Yeah, he was turning off. He was just protecting his head. He was I was screaming at the T. I was like fucken stop this fighting kidding me. I don't know what that guy that ref was thinking. I don't understand. I don't understand why they give some guys like way too much and other guys to stop and Right away made no sense. I think and also there was a yeah, it was a great fights now fights this week. We have Leon Edwards who has won like eight in a row. He's the guy that mosswood all hit like at a press conference. He's from England black guy from England badass. He's writing belong Mohammed who was another really tough guy needs to be reaching his prime. I don't know. I'm thinking below my win cuz of activity he hasn't fought two years. Who do we like in this fight Greg Thursday? Well, I was the only one that I really familiar with and I know he's been fighting great. So he'd be the guy that I'm going to go Sean. He Abdul Muhammad Also. May I just don't I don't think this was an English accent can find. I don't know. Maybe it's just me but it seems like having a British accent takes you down to levels of table. At least let us know after the American Revolutionary War. They were were this shit. What about Lennox Lewis life? What about you money know that he was a fucking gray fighter. He was a world champion boxer. He was a boxer. He was a boxer not a place there a difference. Oh, okay. All right, so it doesn't affect boxing nearly as much as I may got it got it got it a lot more friends and tassels and box off. The basement was a champion Michael visiting. There you go. I've always talking about guys. You could fight. Oh, come on, like a motherfuker. That guy was right out of them Smoking Barrels. I can tell you so this thing so tough. That's our GSP came out of retirement from a weight class below and mop the floor with and that's all right. That was that was that was not a Thursday night or busy, but he also knocked said he was tough. I didn't say it was an incredible Place mapped out Luke rockhold. He won the belt. All right. So also on this car wash is Circa. I've taken are Ryan and and coming up a loss of Johnnie Walker get him on the show. They Lindsay want a million dollars in the pfl. He lost to to bura and now he's fighting Ben Rothwell Rothwell beat Russell, you know Roswell lawsuit. Dobara Rothwell has uniforms. Over OSP wins over Stefan struve. Have you ever train with Ben Rothwell McCorkle? Sean I think Sean left they lost him but I come on the dog finds it hilarious and then it finally happened to somebody else and an Angela Hill taken out Ashley Yoder SUV a good fight Yoder's a hottie. I love Angela Hill that's going to be a good friend like that. Eric Enders show where who is the pfl guy is the pfl guy now fighting in the universe. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, Felipe Lindsay one the one of mine dollars. We lost his two fights in the UFC his first two fights. Have you trained a better off while Sean never know I know him with friends were looking to a degree. I I know I don't train with them pretty instantly said he was pretty good. But now I think man I want Raphael and I think they'll probably lose that fight man. It's a long process got to be forty two or forty-three now, it's not older. So it's with the days of steroids been gone and stuff. And we do that age. He got Papa sterilized one time or he got it tested positive and it was a guy that I was like dead. And he definitely didn't pass. I mean having twice definitely pass the smell test you look at him. You're like, you know that guys out steroids. You know, he doesn't look like he's on anything else. I feel like if I want a million bucks and fighting I think that'd be it. I think it'd be like stop right here. Well Lance Palmer retire wage that's Palmer wanted twice two years in a row and then was mad at the psl4 not go ahead of them season last year. Wanted to leave. I was like man, that's a guy who loves fighting a fuck. It was not doing it for the money or that or he took the million dollars. It's going to say but that means he made two million dollars. Yeah, he's bad. He's mad because he was like, I needed to make another million bucks, right? He clearly thinks he owns he wants another round off Juju. I wouldn't go to the UFC in five or ten thousand dollars. I would come back and fight for none of the million bucks. Some people are just bad with money. I mean, I remember when MC Hammer MC Hammer lost all that money. Yo, Watching a video on Arsenio Hall when I must have been like ten years old and and actually spending a lot of money. He's like nah, I'm good. He goes. Yeah, he goes. Well, what was your last purchase bulb is like he had a he had a thing in his in his car that turned on the light to his fish tank in his house. Like he had like a remote in his car and this is back in the eighties. Like you didn't fucking have that. You know, like if you're stupid, I mean you just like what if you're bad with money that's approved out bad you were with money, you know, I remember watching a video of like they went back to you to hammer concert. Some guy was standing there. It was like he had like a hundred like I know guys like what do you do? He's like, oh Hammer bailed me out. He was a friend from back in the day. He he paid for my you know parole and now I now I just get paid to stand here and like and like you wonder why he went broke. Yeah. I know generally employed like just a whole song. Jewel neighborhood he just like come on the payroll. It was like, okay you come here and and that cuz you know, you felt the money train was never going to stop running off. What's the dumbest thing you ever bought with your money back in the day Don Frye a wife. I had I told you that's why they went to Russia thought about you probably a $10,000 dog recently know I've ever bought man. Wow, that's pretty young money man. I'm a quarter Jewish the 25% of the time I'm on top of it. So, you know tell know ten thousand four dogs a lot of money, especially with no guarantee. I can sell the pups very much. So Greg, I mean back. I mean you booked some major commercials you had that that one commercial recently with flow from insurance. Did you ever make a really dumb purchase? Yeah cocaine about 3,000 wage. You're going on the road sell that it was a it was a mistake. I said really love me. Do you want to resell it at a profit? You know, I forget that side of the business. I'm the guy they're delivering. I mean, how's it going off? Yes, right when you did that commercial with Flo. Did you meet Jeff Ronnie? The guy that's in charge of the advertisement over there. I don't maybe there were so many people so it's tough to say yeah one year nicest guy ever man. He was a really good guy and I guess he ran their home advertising division. Now you do the Priceline commercial Shatner. What was he like? Don't know yet to speak to anybody on set. Wow. Not even you cannot even Don Frye not me. But the fact that I was a famous guy he gave me an evil look like how dare you would be on my commercial set when you potentially are better. Well known than me off. That's crazy. What about right now leaving you were in Big Stan with Rob Schneider, one of the all-time great movies hilarious. Have you ever seen that movie? It was a big fan girl to Rob Schneider's going to prison like you got a hot wife whoever so he's running person. So he's like hitless so he learns how to like kill everybody in prison beat him up by like taking a singer as taking off their ass like he karate and then he runs the jail sound like it would definitely make you popular song. Yeah, Mark Parker. What was my daughter with Rob Schneider? Don Rob's Riders the tops now, I'll tell you what, you can meet a better guy Friendly's care off. He said, you know all the extras on that. They were actually ex-cons. You know, and Rob said everybody catered him the top caterer movie caterer. And as a said the extra is the same as the as the actors, you know, wow, that's right. Yeah, you couldn't joke could never be the better guy named Rob Schneider. I'm telling you. I heard somebody you hear this a lot. There's so many guys. There are so many people that are great at being famous versus those that are really shity at being famous and it's always nice to hear about them that are really good at it. Rob had a funny story, right my my kids if you ever become famous my best to get you off. Shatner about it. I'm going to be yeah, I'm taking a shower all over after I heard a funny Rob Schneider story back in the day. He told the story of how like he was in the marching band or something back in high school and like back need like lost funding so they were like rob, you know, will you will you you know, give us money for the band. So he like funded the band for like ten fifteen years like he was the guy making but then he like wasn't making as much money but you know a certain point his career so he couldn't find the band so that everyone was mad at him know like Rob's tires taken away our bed bath. Everybody was like mad at him like he was like the biggest asshole. No good deed goes unpunished a man. They love you. They love you. And you know, you're spending your money is socialism social social is great, you know until you run out of other people's money makes a log Sounds really good actress. That's our podcast Greg. What do you have coming up? Oh, I have a bunch of shows coming up El Paso, March 6th at the end of this month 26th thru 29th, and then I will be in Phoenix the first weekend of April which I think is a second and third and then then I'll be the 5th through the 11th. The L A comedy club Las Vegas at the Strat Casino, which I'm pretty sure is short for statutory. What about you thought about you Sean? I actually have a couple of guys building a pond in my house right now. Cuz my one Pond wasn't enough on build like don't take her to have found in my front yard, and I've got home probably awesome. I also had a guy come out to give me a SMS from asphalt like redoing my driveway and I was talking to a guy we got talk of candidates and then he slid into one of those you ever went off to die and they slide in something super racist. So he's like I was like man, I really hate what's happened to this country man. This woke stuff is political correctness. He's like, yeah Jews running everything and I was like, whoa, I wasn't down here everybody. He kept saying a super race of stuff and then I just went with her cuz I figured why not tell that guy who I really feel no, but I just went and went with and track if I could offend him and he did work out he agreed with everything I said, so yeah. No, it sounds really going overboard with like is there anything people could support and watch you do this week coming up, but like I said, The answer is no I got something say you don't give out your racist pain guide. Got it. Okay. So. Friday, what do you have a couple of cars April April may have to something I go up to Phoenix and I have some fat Mexican want to be Comedians and then I think next week I go up there to Tempe Mesa and I have to go some fucking white boy that's coming up on stage. Nothing much. Am I? I'm in Gilbert Arizona this Friday Saturday, March 26th or 28th. I'm at the House of Comedy being heckled by Don Frye in Arizona and then off. Second third. I'm in Chattanooga at The Comedy Catch. But thank you guys so much. You guys are great. Have a great week. Take care. Take care.

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Ep. 3,095: UFC on ESPN recap, where we believe Joaquim Buckleys KO ranks in UFC history, more

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Ep. 3,095: UFC on ESPN recap, where we believe Joaquim Buckleys KO ranks in UFC history, more

"Him next time roll baby on May Junkie Radio with Gorgeous Georgia. Go. This is what we do in why we do it baby. We're. Covering Ma from all over the world. This is the premier stop for all your combat sports needs MMA junkie radio from the Mandalay Bay resort and Casino in the fight capital of the World Las Vegas Nevada the lights are on at the Mike Sir hot it's tied to get your ever may fix junkies, take it away big John Gorgeous. George goes. Are you ready? Junkie. junky nation. It's your boy. Gorgeous George. With. Goes or the enemy Junkie Radio, team here on our. And Thursdays on sports caster or you're live from the next hour and talk about the U. of C. event that just took place out in Dahbi it involved Marlin Mariah's and Corey San. Hagans will definitely go with that will definitely talk about Joaquin. Buckley's us. Spinning. Back kick heard around the world except he did it from A. One foot elevated position. Rate is Kale. I don't know. We'll discuss that. I'll discuss the latest news in the sport of mixed martial arts including unpacking relate way division, which is so. convoluted so much going on McGregor respraying official I duNno, it sounds like it chandler still willing to fight Ferguson Ferguson's pissed at Toyota and Chandler when he now it looks like he's still has the chance to fight. If. Not Could it happen in December under the? McGregor Card Islam RG appealed to sign those whose dropping. One fifty five ease out because the Kobe gentler doesn't WanNA. Find Marcus it's a mess and the Lakers one or seventeen title It's a story because now they tie the Boston Celtics or most NBA title lots to talk about here on the Junkie Radio Show. Buckle up. Folks we go. Be Right back. Well let me go Danny Seguida dropping just wanted to let you know about MMA junkies latest Botkin. Enemy weekly spanish-language show dedicated to things professional fighting each Monday recap the major events from the weekend plus we analyze the week's biggest news, you also bring you exclusive interviews with the best fighters, coaches and experts in the Hispanic and Latin American you can find almost every Monday morning on your favorite podcasting platform. So screw it you know so. Sorry. Folks on Saturday. Night. We had a UFC event out in Abu Dhabi as a five week run that they're having. It started with UFC to fifty three on assigned versus Kosta. It will finish Rio see to before Malcolm made offices just engaging in between then. Wrinkled in some nights and was headlined by Marlon Rise Versus? Corey Sandigan will start at the top. Of course Ayn. Defeated Marlin Mariah's. Missiles. Contested at hundred, thirty, five pounds got on the wheel kick in the second round of. Five around fair scheduled around the fair or San Hagen Look Great. I mean. Not that Marlin mice didn't look good. Are they corey standing just look great almost like When Corrie sending in las to Algebra in sterling into sterling just look great. So. is he what we know what's next guy I don't know I think sanity and may have to take a bite easy. He's even come to the. Gripping reality a little bit and saying that Maybe, Frankie Edgar make sense for him or. Some other fighter Of course marm rise will try and dust off. And get back on the horse. No Marlin rise did say it will stop the little early. Let's discuss. It goes which the five will do the stoppage. WHAT'S NEXT GUY? The fight was okay. I thought they were still trying to figure each other out little bit. It's kind of weird because for me watching fights now, when somebody lands at calf kick early on. And there isn't too much of a response to it. It looks like you could see the writing on the wall like. Not that the fight ended because of that. But you can just see it throws fighters off and Marlin just seemed to be a little off in the beginning because some of the things that was doing is taking them time to figure out that distance but marlins top and he was getting in there and he was thrown his own shots. But. It just seemed like early on Corey San Hagan knew exactly what needed to happen and was already in his flow while taking Marlin a little bit to get there. So the Kale was nine I think we both Kinda set it at the same time it looks early stoppage but at the same time Marlon didn't really protest and he didn't do one of those things where sometimes you'll see a fighter stand up right away and you can see okay than even having trouble standing a Marlin was a little slow to get up. So I think that's just something that may be said to save bates a little bit. I agree I think it was a little early. But I think it Kinda worked out and then as far as WHO's next Frank Edgar Duarte game, he T. J. dillashaw to. Am I, mean the thing about TJ a fun fighter a great stylistic matchup. WanNa see that but. I don't know I'm one of these fighters. I'm not calling J. Dillashaw Shah's name I need Dj to come back and let him do his thing and rebuild himself. But I I want to conduct myself as if I'm I'm above TJ right now. I can understand that but remember he is a former champion and TJ will come back to. some big fights he left as you know he was stripped of the Bantamweight Division but he left us a defeated rates I mean whatever you want to dig into that. when you talk about who are the greatest weights ever is name comes up dominant cruisers named comes up obviously, Saluto brings his name. Now. But Looks Huda deserves to be thrown out Beira. Maybe even cody garbrandt I don't know that that's that's for another day for us to unpack. that. Talk But I, guess he gave himself options Frankie Edgar only one know as a bantamweight but still he's Frankie Edgar for crying out loud. Than anything I think it was just him realizing good Jeez unless the really fumbles this one it's gone in all Jemaine sterling all day. Probably, December maybe January. And and and so does he wanNA wait for that winner? Or does he wanNA already fight somebody else I don't know because he's Young He just looks like he's hungry in wanting to stay active. So it was good that he gave himself some options. I had no. No no problems at all with his performance in out of the Octagon as far as Marlon Ryan's goes. Here's the thing when he when he hit him and he fell back. Santa mean look he took some shots no doubt about that and I think I, think it's confirmed righty Roka's orbital that that's what the Sangha camp was yelling out. But either way when he fell back, his arms were still in a protective defense mode I. Think it warranted. Tried to say whether it's another second or two because some of these fighters are so quick that you can rain down ten inches in two seconds. But. That's what felt like like just a sequence of Santa Egging. Ente-. Marlin Ryan's isn't. Isn't grabbing a leg grabbing hold of leg or really really rejecting himself or maybe terling himself at least that now San Hagan has the option to Cookson in submit them or just keep raining down the options something that tells you that he's still in the game. I was looking for that now that said it's not it shouldn't be so crazy uproar. It shouldn't take away from San Hagan's win. Mariah. Saying look. We're high level So some fighters get the benefit of this I wish I would have got the benefit of that and I have no problem with insane it. But you winner was saying. He look good in the dusted off that that loss from Jane, Sterling who imagine if you had lost morass that that might have been really tough to come back from yeah. hasn't. Really with the last two years I, think have taught us. Is Cory Pride does need to take another fight regardless of you feels like he's outside looking at and he's the next guy. You just gotTa keep fighting and make making money especially in that division just because somebody wildcards that come out of nowhere. I would have thought about it for ten seconds on said, no, you know what I gotta fight I gotTa fight someone and I like the Frankie Edgar Name. That's a good one. Will they were supposed to fight? I. Think it was a fight card that was taking place in San took place in San Diego I don't know why that stands out but. It was supposed to be at the end of last year. So maybe it wasn't Sandy I duNno does that's not important but they were gonNA fight in I remember Ed you're took a fight against the Zombie because Zambia had lost his opponent I even remember without was at this point but Edgar. Stepped in he fought he lost consent hanging just was feeling. You know I mean that was his big moment you know and then he moved on to something else. But I guess he's over it. He understands it because Edgar came out of his mouth, and so he's willing to get down but look this sand hit our sterling yawn fight. It's either gonNA. We're. GonNa know soon whether it's happening or whether it's not. That guy. And I think it's going to be booked for December. Just. Doesn't have tomorrow Zeman versus Gilbert Burns. That's that's just not happening in also doesn't In nonoo? I could see them maybe trying to get that fight book what seems to be holding things up is Algebra sterling coming to terms financial terms? Getting what he wants and but magnon interpret on twitter. That's cool. I like that stuff. So I think San Diegan could just enjoy his win for a week or two and find out if Algebra sterling doesn't come. To An agreement with the I'LL BET UC TURNS THE SANTA eggen quickly And if they do within these knows Wednesday can I get on the same card that way I'm some sort of an insurance policy. Analyst combing event. Versus Edgar. And I would love that you know I love it when the main event in Qom it doesn't. Necessarily but at least. Another high highly touted fight is Is being disputed on the same night that the champion fights. It's great for the time line in the puts his huge spotlight on the division which would happen more often plus allows them the plug and play on not just because of injuries because of misleads and because of. Kobe, you know the stuff that happens with Kobe. Can Be. It can be your coach don't forget if your coach gets it. You still mind gets home. That happened to Brian Ortega. Have you ever thought about what the way mixed martial arts would play out primarily array with US fighting, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No I meant there's been ties with a coach gets infected and you still don't fight because you've been near your coaches geared. Often have. You never sat back and thought. How MMA would play out if it wasn't for social media. Social media does a lot of the job for the fighters for the promotion. People Chirp in going back and forth letting us know what exactly is going on. Not Getting the money I. Want this guy doesn't WanNa fight me have you ever thought what it would be like if you just took. Twitter or instagram away for. A couple of months how different everything would play out. What I've seen it lightly Some might relate you should relay goes when it bring it up but. Honestly these websites, the comment section, the underground I gotta give credit to the underground website. A lot of guys would go in there and talk their smack, and sometimes a fight could be birth there. But yeah, with these types of shows where people would go on the website would produce a recap you know talking about it. but I think we would revert to that. But I have no problem with the way. It's gone down because guess what Emma May Junkie as a twitter page enemy junkie as a an instagram page. So right there we're right in there throwing elbows. If he ever peruse the comments section, it can get pretty entertaining. They're not just with the fans but other fighters. Chime end but yeah, you're right on social media does. Does a lot you know and God bless the UC's announcers. They try to put that microphone and go what's next for you. Guys hit it out of the art like Mickey. Gall is one of the greatest of all time when it comes to getting what he wants, and there's some the just. They just WANNA. Get back to the locker room shower hop on a plane and get home. As happy as I am that the Lakers won the championship staring at you wearing. LAKER golden and Purple. It's also driving me, Bananas WanNa why? You didn't me for permission aware that. This? Yeah. Remember was my Christmas. Gift. Well. Okay we settle that Women was this actually your size early 'cause 'cause it's my side where yet goes dry it is it was it staged as Christmas gifts. And then He came to find out but it wasn't. I replaced the right. Have not had opened up back to back presence. One was a pair of pillows that George and I were supposed to share. And then after giving that Frank Mir face I opened up. George's present, which was a present to him. It House pretty good too when to punch. Yeah. Well. I Dunno everyone's in understand what happened here. So what happened was if I'm not mistaken, I think I ran out of time because I begin my shopping on the twenty four. And I think I ran out of time with goes or just couldn't figure out what he wanted or something went wrong I don't now. So I put this Laker. Sweatshirt. In a box that was gifted, it's from George to goes he opened it. He's ecstatic. He's a Lakers fan. Right away or do or. I was keeping an eye on goes because I knew that the minute he saw that my fat ass double X. Were Double X.. At not L. 'cause that's goes side large as soon as they saw that he would look at me and I'll just give him a look and that look Is the forty two years that I've known him. He should understand that that means it means shot up will deal with the later. You know I'll made me look fool. So he was happy. Apparently he didn't see the signs were all good in the I. Guess you figured it out the next day Mary. Now I figured out a while later when somebody else they go look. At it. Man I note this. But it's not the first time another time you had got a jacket. You got me a jacket one and I picked it out and I thought it was dope Dita's jacket with yellow. And when I went to open my present from you. It was just some random thing amounts like what is like extra what and then I see our? Open up his gift than it was my jacket. The Yellow Jacket That were go. Not. Have a president for him. So you paddock than you gave a mind, but I remember him opening it up and I remember the first thought going through my head was. He like being like I just I just didn't do the math and then I finally realized the way. I know it happened. But anyway. Art Let's see here. Let me go through the rest of the card and then I WanNa talk about walking Buckley. Reserves some shine in the event of Saturday's. Card it's Barbosa defeated. Mock. WanNa Amir Connie. Goes. It was pretty simple for Amir Connie he tried to stand, but he wasn't going good for man he was getting socked up or at times other times he was hanging in there though on a couple of shots of his own but it over the course of fifty minutes, it wasn't serving him, right. So eventually started getting some of those take downs and I'll tell you what towards the end. know if he gets that third take or the take down in the third Writing time you never know you might have snuck out of there. With win but. Edson Barboza was was the clear better fighter fifteen minutes, and now he wants some big names on forty five is this division one in now lost a controversial a decision to any. Those are his words. I thought it was clear Ebay one well, I remember it was close. he's now one one, but he's at some Barbosa. When you shift one way crafts to the other, you've accomplish things in the other one. Trust me the UC's we we see a two. Thousand odd fight because it wasn't a mere Connie's worst performance. And it wasn't really Edson best performance, right? Because you're right that he had gotten that take down it probably would have been an ugly win for him. And Barbosa getting the win an. Americana started to gas out a little bit. So I think that's when Edson started letting. Go a little bit more at the end of the fight looked way better from but. Early on. It just didn't seem like we like it's knew exactly what it was. He wanted to do in that fight. It wasn't like his performance, but it wasn't bad at the same time but. Fighting off some take downs because remember he would wall and then he was trying to his own version of the front show that Amir Connie is really really good at the. The more you do that the more you kind of play with a slippery python you know like if you go to the fair, Hey, want to wear the snake. It's a real snake and you're like oh curiosity. And you put it on, you take your picture. And then you go currently take it off at least. That's why act petrified of snakes. He take it off, and then you just go on about Your Business Right? You don't say, Hey, can you wrap them around me wine hold on and then why don't you go get us a pair of hot dogs I'll just keep the state company Bucknell because if the saints starts squeezing and something goes wrong when you Anik, it could be all over and so our Bozell was doing a little bit of a version of this a little bit of a version of that when I thought. When I thought the best thing for him to do was to stand up man you're you're you're using this guy and I'm saying this with a lot more passionate not more curse words because I, Bar Boza. Look I know there's a lot of smart Emma may fans that are gone Oh yes. Will Gd are wonder fight after being the the better fighter on stand up. So like I get that I get that I really do all right but she was that close to getting caught to getting mounted possibly losing that fight same thing with Barbosa I. think that's the worst of the two situations if you go home and go and they go what happened and you go I. Lost Many choke me on I was messing with him he reversed me or or just. Out Campbell me and I got choked out. That stings would've you go home go hey, I want advocate chance of someone but I didn't that doesn't sing as much. You had the chance for spun once things more than the other always keep that in mind it also goes back to what we were talking about what James Crowns goes I can. Now. You, know the snake you brought up at the carnival. I had that happen to me at the indoor swap meet year in Vegas. The most surprising thing ever 'cause you would never expect I It's fantastic. One thrill get up. But I, was looking old wrestling dolls for Elvis. And I turn around just here hey, you wanna WanNa have my snake on your shoulders only five bucks and it was like Jake the snake whatever that is the python it was like right here. I turn around it was right here I, have like. Snakes face. You're not because he had them like this. Like like he was ready to put him on me but I didn't even see that or nothing Mike. That was literally it was like a Tattoo guy here a tweeting year like hot dog fan and then I guess he was next I don't know what the hell he had, but you would just pay to take a picture with the snake on him I mean key mansions being target and all of a sudden there's Ola constrictor like it was so shocked I gotta ask questions first of all, he still have its fangs is the boys I gotta go through like literally one of these. You know like a clipboard in check off. Okay. He's you know. He's Two Hundred Years, old has no aggression I don't know because I want nothing to do with that. I don't see the need to take that picture but if you can answer about a good ten questions in, it's the friendliest thing in the world of. Get the picture and then the forgotten my life on only sit there and ask any more questions that only depend on I. Don't need to ask the state, give it what his favorite teams are nothing like that. But Edson. In. It's not like he had poor technique. These guys are amazing athletes but I noticed each time he was just bring you more live to American when he was song them up in actually knocking down Amir Connie's Faysal. Logo. On getting torched your you know like you know what I mean and you gotTa remember that folks well, not not you guys got don't fight but fighters young fighters especially go back and listen to our interview with James The last one we did on our page www dot sports caster, dot com slash anime junkie he talks about five different facets. Of the fighting career of strategy that employs on all of his athletes in one of them just straight up Iq where are you? You're strongest? Where is he or she their weakest? Right continuing. In the featured bout, which is the third one from the top. Marching to boycott Ben Rothwell goes what pays for these big heavyweights I mean. Did I hear that Ben Through one, hundred thirty plus inches around one though. Strikes on total that that's insane and it's one of those things where like Ben I think started the tire out towards the fight and I think that really did affect them But. You can't blame them because how many times do we just say man you left you left something there you could have gone for you could have done it. He did he took a chance it didn't work out when he heated pay for it later on the fight and I think that's probably what got him 'cause early on his punches were hurting them but then it just seemed like they didn't have that steam. He was having problems like I. Think it would have been more successful when it got him up against the cage a little bit. Hong Kong on like what he did Sp.. But it just wasn't big Ben's night and it's one of those fights where I think they bought ten times, it might be split but. That was tough for Big Ben bans. Yeah, it was an credit marching tomorrow because he took a law shots lead band was throwing a lot I love his activity. You can't say that was a boring fight for sure and he he went after it but I would say if I had criticized, it's that a Lotta shots also missed that I'm wondering if you could just be more efficient with a lot of times, you'll hear it coaches just touch him touch them it adds up and it was adding up but man when he committed to its uppercut, for example or when he just through like a straight right rather than just the follow follow follow follow that that that he really really hurt to. And credited to Bora, you know hurt here it Ben Rothwell right back. We all had it about one one going into third and in the third just one guy was younger fresher and. Made a huge difference. You know he basically. Dominated I think that's where the ten king from if I'm not mistaken. WanNa got him down. It was it was a route so Big If you're a big Ben Rothwell fan like goes in are like a Lotta junky nation is the tough one you know what he did come out to fight. You salute him for that. He's been busy since he came back from his two euro suspension that he had a few years ago. So good for him wouldn't some money away hopefully, you know every time a fighter loses folks and we don't know these contracts situations. We we don't ask as often as we used to but. If you are. Eight well. Old Older. and. Coming off a loss especially one that's not exciting a Lotta. Times. That might be if you. Ben's older he's coming off a loss, but that fight was exciting. So I'm hoping that he gets a little bit of the Andrea. Lost treatment. Where like we know you're not necessarily contending for a title but man, you're a stiff test for the up and comer and your name that we can put you on a card that we're fans go. All right. Cool. I'm popping open a beer because big ben's on the car because Andres on the car you know those guys have been asked their prime again, they're not contending with still Heavyweights just a little bit more must see tv they graduate a lot quicker. So must tv like the Diego's like the cowboys and I guess it's that big one on our well yeah. We've been groomed our entire line for boxing that the baddest man on the planet is the heavyweight champion of the world. Yeah. Transfers over to mixed martial arts as well, and you're always as a chance because they have that power. All right. I WANNA welcome to the show. One of the nominees for this year's World Emmy Awards in the best journalists category been calling of ours for almost a decade. he's no longer young my bomb. He's just my bond with something like moderate. Middle. Age. Lawn gutting their. I'm good. Yes. Yeah. Thanks for having me on Seven Years August first junkie saw that decade has coming up quick. Coup. Is. Really great ride with you and are. Are you thirty you thirty right now I'm twenty nine thirty in. May. All right. So you're young. Until may then and then after that think of another one, we did the same thing with Melvin. Goulard. The young assassin Ringo's we were like, okay. Hold on a second. You're thirty five we gotTA figure something out I he the champion he did he did. Chen's on that kind of talk the California Kit, your favor. So he's like forty something. We've got a lot of us going on that. Hey real quick. You know we just went over the top three fights, but let's get your dots Start with San. Hagan versus Mariah Carey legal the did you think the stoppage a little early like Mariah's implied Maybe like a touch, but not too bad I mean he didn't really complain in the moment I understand like hindsight did not give him much of an opportunity. Once he got dropped from NYC Sant hadn't came out on top of women I assume would have just kept throwing strikes there but we've got a ton of moments either like. Curl offer you whatever he needed to do to show that he really really wasn't fighting and he wasn't completely out. So maybe could have given a few more but I don't think he was recovering from that even if you somehow got back up to speed on my back into the fight that was so much momentum and Santana construction at that point I, think it would have been an even uglier more punishment punishment-filled ending for them. And that usually is the case in about ninety five percent of those early stoppages. You know where? Okay. Maybe the guy grabs a single and maybe the clock is eight seconds he can ride it out get on the stool clear. The cobwebs come back compete and maybe do some sort of a comeback. Most of the time they're usually done most of the time we're using saving them from those additional shots that can rock him, but it's because of the history of the game that this has happened that I understand the fighter when they say what they say. and. Those losses must be so devastating users look into something something McLean onto. Hey, give me again this stopped early on one of the best I know that the guy that might be fighting Yang soon in Algebra sterling wise that not I understand those frustrations. So God bless mom riots. He's still a great bantamweight in. You know he'll. He'll be matched up against somebody else you know in in the live another day. Yeah and he wanted that December turnaround I mean if he had taken more shots being completely titan in December Bro, so might not even happen now but even the option would be on the table if you'd take more punishment. So you got kind of looking at both sides will there. But yes, as is unreal tough loss for, but he's still going to be tough band the way I think there's tons of fun fights for him so. You know what though is we were talking about Mike Bonn and he's been are calling for almost a decade. Now think about how long ago was George that we were at the planet Hollywood and a young Marlon Ryan's was fighting Miguel Torres remember that we all Kinda went who's this And these guys travel over to the UFC granite came over as a champion. But. Some people didn't see that part of his career. You know we just know him for the UFC. These veterans man it only takes like there's these type of fights where overnight they start to look old and I don't feel like that was Marlin just yet. But these are the type of bites kind of set that tone for the next up that he gets him. He's lucky. Got One of those styles at I. Think everybody wants to tune in and watch hope he gets a good one and gets right back on track because Marlin is one of the best fighters in the world. I don't think you necessarily looked better courtside just like really really really damn good at the dot was more than I like that first round was Kinda cost Marlin and then he got caught pretty early in the second. So that's what I saw there. I saw just Corey San hop is breakout more moment more. So than Marlon Marais is not being himself for not meeting is potential or anything I think he just ran into a bad sal match up in a guy who had a serious point of course, boy do I sensational stuff? And my want tell us about Edson Barboza Amir Sorry Mock WanNa Amir Connie that was the co main event. American was getting owned on the feet, but he almost look for. Some openings there on the ground that could have been troubled for Barbosa especially if he gets a dominant position yeah. Yeah. He I mean he tried his best in there but I just stacked kind of when as I expected to add just a bad style matchup for Amir Khan A, he was able to. Get dropped on the feet for a while there but when it ultimately came. Crashing down on him and Barboza was just landed those lightning quick punches the put down. So I yeah very important. Win for Barboza there I think it. I don't think he's ever really like fallen offer that we thought was odd downward slide. You just ran into some tough results on the back to back split decisions could have easily gone his way we talking about this. Man in a very different light here on this Monday right now, he was on a three fight winning streak instead of being one and three in his last four fights. But I think you kind of look at his body of work there what you did against anti-gay how good that fight was what he did here against Amir Connie his like top fifteen s rather wait. Cats ads, Barboza's not like at the talk. This division I really want to see him fight someone who's like Elsie said taught five top six see how did he can be there you don't have many guys like this man like Barboza was a top ten lightweight for how many years they are probably the better part but decade and then here is new the Dow Division and establishing himself as a top ten guy there. You don't see too many people capable of doing that. So that's pretty impressive. Did a few never got some the title aren't You are. So right because it he had won the fight he be known then bringing over that stock from the library delusion how good he's been over the past decade we could easily be inserting him in there with the caterers and the ears zombies were taken that are trailing. The. Champ But instead that loss just you know it makes one one at featherweight and he'll just. He'll probably get another name because he still has some stock but why he could be right up there you know like Frankie angry debuted at one thirty five got the win and he's getting called out by gorry sanity. Yup The lots a interesting fights Barboza there. Obviously, you're not seen in Donegal and fraud everyone at lightweight at the tail end of his tenure there. He was just fighting guys again yet the rematch with standard lost love and brought a fresh coat of paint to his career I. Think his abilities really translate well there there's not too many guys that are like. The Habib's Ferguson's that are going to be doing being able to do what they did superbos out lightweight in terms of grappling in at featherweight. So I, think that's a pretty good sign for him I. Think I don't know if he's going to be championed especially thirty, four, thirty five now but I could see Barbara may be that title fight that elated him lightweight. Yeah. For sure and we're we might bring up Bose's name one more time in just a SEC. When we discuss race, Cao's ever will get to walking Buckley but route one what did you think of marching were and Ben Rothwell? On. A heavyweight fight. Too much to say bender off while that was fun start for him. He came out thrown insane volumes without good by I. Think it Kinda goes to show that at heavyweight you need to pace yourself. A little work is not once he got put on the ground third around either Tabarez top pressure was that good or Ben Rothwells was tired and had a wet everything out of the tank that he can get himself out from on. Bottoms. Yeah. Kinda would be nice to see your authorized gotta win especially after like everything is hometown of Kenosha is being through and all that leading and. On the tail end of his career. In some ways, you had a nice couple wins coming into thus but yeah, I mean Tabarez Guy He. Does, it's usually pretty ugly when he goes in there, but he finds a way to win quite a bit. I. Thought his post like called of Derek Lewis kind of interesting outlook dot fights gonNA happen but he did make some good points was winning not flights of. Nothing. A lot of guys who are Boston Derek Lewis probably say that exact same thing but he's done good stuff Americans like some top man. So tiber on the younger side is not heavyweights closer to forty than is thirty. So that's a good sign and we'll see what he can do another guy from Paulin to getting big win. So good momentum for that country right now. Alexander Volkov can say the same thing. What was it like fifteen seconds are linked? Riddle. Aright. So guys those really really good action throughout the car in Al Gore. Some of the results in just a second but let's get walking Buckley 'cause everyone's at the water cooler talking about this. If you're on the east grills, you're discussing it over lunch you're on the west coast right now here in the break room eating a breakfast sandwich everyone's talking about it. It was a thing of beauty summer going so far as to say, it's the greatest ever our colleague Dave. Doyle will lightly disagree and look there's nothing wrong with saying if that's your being was pretty spectacular but I gotta ask you to, is it for you right at the top and if not will what what keeps it from being the at the top? It's close. I. Just don't think it's number one. For me to put it up there like if this was like a championship fight or a contender fight or something like that then. Yeah. But to me with these nocco states do matter quite a bit I mean there's no perfect answer here I like everyone is like pound for pound or something like that. Everyone's going to have what they value more is that know technique is shock value is the overall historical meaning is that an upset is All. These different measurements that could go into it, and for me I kinda put value more on steaks and the historical meaning and stuff like I. Think. You know if you want to add something that's like we've never seen before a crazy knockout, but put it like higher six zero look at the year. Audrey? Doesn't Korean. Zombie knock at like to me diets slightly above bat that was a main event a you know maybe not title eliminated super important fights that weight loss and it was a knockout. We'd never seen before by a guy who was losing the fight with one second last night that to me a slightly above the slum buyers this it was incredible in terms of jewelry like to show. Someone a knockout and highlight, and maybe without knowing anything about the fighters or what it means or anything I. Think you put out the top five knockouts top ten knockouts. Yes. Yesterday in front of a person and they would probably pick out is one or two. So on that pure loan, it's right there with all the rest by there is some other ones holly home over Ronda Rousey even I'd put about batches his of all valuable prevention. So it's probably top five from me but I'll take a break like my top two or top three. Goes. Yeah if you look at it that way than, yet it just can't compete but I'm one of those guys that when you were the Mandalay Bay were watching the highlights from the night before and you're watching the top ten plays. It always drives me nuts when it's when the number one play is a guy may be saving home run or something like that. It's not that it's not. Big It's just it happens all the tar. You know there's Times that you see things and other sports that just rarely happen and they're like the number three player, the number, four players like that. This is one of those times where this rarely happens in a work for somebody to be holding to generate that much power off of the same leg that you're using the kick. Pretty tremendous. For me, it's pretty high up there But yeah, pie in the top five or on their Dombi was pretty good though. Barboza to mention. Period while we've never seen something like that before. So yeah, I mean again, it's like no I don't think there is a one hundred percent accurate answer. Everyone's going to have their own measurements how they do the. So I'm cool with you know anyone who says it's the best ever. I'm cool with someone saying another thing is the best ever like we're kinda split Harris here at a lot of ways can every topic on this George? Yeah. Yeah. What did you guys think Scott, Van Pelt and everything that happened there on twitter and all that. I didn't see what happened. So he he was very critical of it like you. You just kind of blew it off. Okay. Guy Getting her. Let's all cheer for that. You know that sort of like attitude towards it. But if you go through twitter and the people that came at him throughout the night, his responses were pretty i. think he pulled back a little bit but the I dunno, I thought that was kind of cheesy. What would you think Mike? So I didn't see it live. But at this obviously being here pad, we don't get your guys edition of Sportscenter but as far as I know kind of lead the broadcast off showing the knockout and stop them. Kinda. Like You know that's tough to watch or something that kinda downplayed it a little bit. Too to violence or whatever and I think it was more like the image of you know that moment where implode kind of frozen off and many tower the canvas the. Big Impact and smashes head on the canvas. There's a slight. Yes kinda cringe for him. In that sense a lot of people came after a man like allies there why putting an anchor on Espn GonNa crap on the scored all that kind of stuff. But that's Kinda. What I appreciate about some of these guys like we're not going to sit here I. Think we all covering this long enough to know the sport is in for. Everyone it's not going to be bigger than soccer one day. It's not going to do all these things like there's just GonNa, be a portion of people and you know maybe they're the people that are more normal than we are in the sense that like watching people get crushed with these tattoo knockouts, take a brain damage assault like normal in some ways, knots there could be some people you could light fiber as much as you. Want, you could explain to them the history of the sport, the technique, all these things, not just GonNa fall head over heels within watch every fight like we do, and I'm not mad at more. They used to be a time where maybe and try to convince people like Oh you know this thing or the other thing if they said something negative but I think the sports around long enough we'd be on big platforms like Fox. And what's the end long enough that you're probably GONNA make up your mind out stop impelled dislikes by any means I've seen him do some great interviews with analysts fighters on sports that are and stuff like that I. Think he knows the sport pretty well in comparison to some other people that would be in that position and I don't mind him voicing his opinion about that and it seems like, yes, the ended don't give him Give him any backlash or anything like that? So Soviet. February Evans have their own opinion on. It's I get that people love it. I don't. I don't I. Don't love that the guy is out mashes his head on the ground. Yea. So right away when when you go to social media, people are laying into them going we'll don't people get knocked out in football don't people get. And then here's the thing man I think it was last week. There was a box that kind of went out and somebody pulled that clip. Of Him kind of laughing at that. So they were saying, well, it's funny in boxing but but if you look at Scott Been Pulse responses everything I, thought he did pretty well I thought he actually conceded that point on one of eight you kind of have a point there but but yeah. It's harsh reality that we have to remember that the people that That feel that way Scott Van Pelt. There's a lot of them. There are a lot of people. That's why when we're at the Mandalay Bay and the sports book and there's a fight, not everybody's rushed in there. The way football Sunday is Ram be there are a lot of people that type of opinion still and Stuck to his guns on it for sure again, stop forever. Look what happened in football with Dak, Prescott Ankle Matt like you think people want to be sitting there watching not bent like twisted foot pointing opposite direction of what should be on national television suffolk that the not some people are not gonNA enjoy I the violent side of that and people get hurt all the time. So I. Notice Board is going to be forever on visual mocking to be for everyone and I am beyond the point in being involved in sports coverage of this industry in particular of trying to convince people. To sink one way or the other. If you have some completely outrageous opinion based in fantasy not reality and he criticize a baseball bat that. Okay. But if you just aren't on board of seeing people get knocked out in that way, which is completely fair because that was bad bad bad knockout. It was spectacular. It was violent if it wasn't for him, that's cool zones he's consistent. Somebody, goes five years ago. Here's his reaction to win Marquez knocked out back out I went through the through the ropes every showing some comfort level, some level of comfort towards like embracing how beautiful that was a not our sport. The naturally have a problem if he's consistent across the board okay cool. Something to maybe like you know people are more over the years tailored to like boxing and seeing boxing knockouts as much longer history. So a lot more violent scenes guy spin kick the dude in the jaw or like a crazy elbow or or ahead kick in other way. Do you think that plays into it? All people you know maybe not sense artists accustomed to they are seeing some boxing highlights for decades at this point. A little bit and a little bit because of the social media culture that we have now where. We'd angle. Off. A fight on the subway, a fight on the streets of fight at school. It's a lot of these people have kids. I don't have kids with allies will have kids and they just they may have set up the principal's office you two days ago. Trying to stick up for their kid who defended themselves against the bully maybe those people were bullying I think it just brings something out of people that it reminds them of their past their neighborhood. You know whereas boxing I think we all saw something. So untouchable that we had an admiration for the spotlight these are doing. You know it was an Olympic sports. This sport of came out of nowhere you know and and and hit us you know like a cold bucket of water and it's some it's. I have good buddies that got in fights every weekend and I told this should be right down your alley. You fucking people up on a Saturday night you know what I mean you. Hear all the sun is like the blood, the bills that I don't get it. You know for some it registers, and for some it doesn't and then there's some of the. Whatever some of the non athletic dudes or whatever that I am at the mouth and love every second of it you know what I mean so. I like I. Think I'm done trying to figure out Lewis foreign who it isn't or but just I'll tell you this much if I had his spot. And they told me here's the. List. Of, ten. Best plays or whatever. Some guy made a thirty five foot PUTT you. WanNa get excited about the I'm not in the golf you know and maybe Megan on Hey, we'll be you know he made he made the shot 'cause. You know so that so that might be his version of what golf is to me to be. I think a lot of people have that attitude because when you look at boxing. Gloves right. When you look at hockey wearing pads baller wearing pads like they're feel there's that humanity side to where here it's just you could see that down the street right somebody Shin on somebody. It's just so parnell that I think that's where some of those people draw that line. There's no pads. There's no big gloves. Hey could be right. I. I just think it's not the greatest for me in my touched on something that I try and touch on a lot when I'm like when people talk about rankings and things like that, your quality of opposition. So I still think Anderson Silva to tour Belford is going to be tough the top because it that's a technique that hadn't been used at least. Not at that level, it decided a title fight. It took I mean Anderson it was always a star is he was a he was a solid name pride and then he came over to the U. of C. and got a great debut against Lebron you defeated Franklin but he wasn't that pay per view star that that we all came to know him as I think thousands breakout moment so against. Alleged in between Beaufort why people would say that now I remember our colleagues presser former colleague always say like that Anderson Solo Detour Belfort fight is probably the biggest enemy fight in. Brazilian history you know so. There's that significance about as well. So yeah, I. Mean I think that that definitely means a lot. You see that kind of stuff happened when light the lights are shining brightest holly Ronda Rousey type of moment like bad is hard to beat other compared to a third fight of the night premium on some random UFC card that they're you know in a stretch of they're putting events on every single week. So there's a lot of quantifiable measures but as I said earlier, you wanted to tell me thanks that's the greatest knockout and UFC anime history whatever clean Buckley knock at yet into too big of a debate. Yeah. As long as it's in your top five top and we don't have a problem. It's anyway is it's not even in like. Wow, what would you looking at any time? You think man there's some. Way Think about we were at the COREAN Franklin. We were there that one kind of. Your. Right left. Right wasn't it? Just, you just went straight down number and then. Had as a knockout yet, it'd be categorized it as a some sort of a kick. I mean that's showtime. Kick against Ben was spectacular. Didn't knock them out but not down and remember that fight I think was to to going into the fifth. So you could argue that that began the. The process of him solidifying around five which got him the belt means it's a big moment You know I don't know that there's a lot of ways of breaking not to mention house. All Austrian. Check. Out Awfully Do Remember Cook Up Gonzaga and how much hype would was Grocott coming over from pride I mean there's so many of them well and then Out ESCA. Experience when he kicked Mark Coleman Dow's big at the time was. Messing up. He got you down hit by due to your head. Look like your your face hamburger. And refresh me here. I'm I'm having a a blank Kevin Lee kicked off. And that was you guys I mean I thought I was that was one of those moments where. I mean look. I don't WanNa get too morbid here but Jon Morgan is said it before and I think we've all come to accept something bad will happen one day if you look at the history of boxing as snack. Has To this point where Brian. Wordy, when I saw that I thought this could be it. I was I didn't even have time to go. Yes. 'cause I bet. Day I think probably I was just like, what was the all right? Like I mean that was shocking man. 'cause you see these kicks where you're like Whoa. Is this Guy GonNa be alright. And God knew over. It was crazy onto I. Remember being kid for that thousand other. Is Not that backed up like there's there's so many to count benching in recent years. One of my favorite ones back in the day was Gary Goodridge when he did the crucifix elbows. Dollars. But that's like. CRAZIEST, early knockouts. Did. You just say that goes what did you say we now is another one this was. SOMEBODY WAS ELBOWING ORLANDO? League member. REMCO Pardo. But this one was Paul Harare in. Harare. That's the guy that brought tank Abbott and Tito Ortiz into the game. If I'm not mistaken, he's like a wreck we coach Heinsohn beach Yeah he got abuse man. We talk and basically you have seen gets at this point not to mention yeah. Things that we got gotten pride and strikeforce these things over the air. So it's like sit there and make a definitive list of the best anime knockouts or you the see ones would be extremely tough task at the credit anyone who wants to actually do that work is tough. Mike, you're our social media guy at the May Junkie once they were talking about all these records that just keep getting broken because the UC took another step up and so arguably, there's just more fans which means more re tweets and things like that. He went out of his way to say that out of San Consta- believe at a they broke some record i. think it was on the social media favor views and the Joaquin Buckley that just that that one bid video alone I think has gotten the most user Selena. Most reach meets lights. Down, know exactly what the numbers are by I. Think last time I. Checked like yesterday there was something like twelve million views or something on not one clip let alone all other places being shared like I saw so many fighters open night ko on their instagram's, and it was everywhere and people are like they did the right thing sometimes most situations they won't show the finish share lights little things like that. They put it out there right away day didn't Gio block it on a single accounts they put it on all of them all these different angles and stuff. So that was about as. Viral of a knockout it gets and I think in terms of they were talking about like the I. Think it was the used the re tweets and the likes on that one and the Afro. Like a finishing clip out it was for any clip at all I. think it may be in I know Dana. Was referencing the Izzy cost staredown with like the throwing of the white belts and all that nonsense I. Think you said that was their most. You'd faceoff clip ever which I think had surpassed the Habib. And Connor at Wayans when connor like punched his hand down or whatever you know. So Yeah That's very good for the UFC in terms like getting traction having things spread like that. They want those viral moments and to get something is definitely good for their social media to their brand and. It. Hurts saw someone say yesterday yes. Unions to get a viral knockout bonus instead of like performance the nights if you get a viral Kale, like that gives dude if you someone else made a good point I, can't remember exactly it was off the top of my head on twitter like. That knockout is going to be shown on UFC opens on their promo packs and everything for like. The rest of time if not, the next ten, five, ten years or anything like there, he is helping them sell their product. You WanNa see how crazy you could look at this crazy spending knockout. Here's your residual checks and south every time they lost that out there. So would be nice if they threw a guy like that extra cheese especially gives Dana white teased to his face. We might give you two hundred thousand dollars in the ultimate ended up giving. Has got to be some value in it and I guess since we got you here. Can you explain that really as a curiosity of mine I've done it before a cousin of mine from South America. Go you got to see this in hit and it's blocked is Gio. Glock. Why would they do that in? Why do companies do that? Why wouldn't they want to get it in his many in front of as many eyeballs as It usually just comes to like television deals type thing like there might be some places where it's not showing live or ambigious tax showed finish a certain way I. think that's really what it comes down to like Bill Hab. UFC basically has a twitter account for like every country at this point at Abbott Canada Asia. Northern Australia. So I think they'll just basically put the same clip up, but they would geo block it to within their area only. I think a lot of it does come down to just like television rights things like that. There may be one country where the yes he's literally on their pay per views. What we have is pay per views are on their TV for free. So I D- ability to replace off his lot easier than here in the states, they don't want to give away a Finnish for free or Whatever is they're hoping someone will buy pay per view after the fact or you know watched on television or sign ups ESPN plus this is a lot of little elements but I think they're they have so many different deals at this point and like kind of the rules about when he can rebroadcast all that kind of stuff is just different for each individual country and I think that's why. You know the separate accounts for each different regions at this point but ultimately, when it goes out on the main UFC count you I think they usually allow to go like most places but I being up in CAD ANYTHING ESPN and I may tweets out I pretty much can't see because all that stuff's blocked within the United States I. Think a lot of people think teradata problem if you're smart enough, you can get around it but. That's all right. Let's see here. We only have a few minutes left some input bones not. To the sign near the twitter beef is escalating but I I just don't think they're fighting each other next. Richard added within the last week doubts still out we went over loss of stuff where he was great impact Chikao. Mike Bond with Israel, Sonya check out my bond with. into. I was watching some of that today and he was. All you haters out there. He's learning from you to. It's what he was telling bond and goes producing there. That was a good one All interviews by the way are on www, dot youtube dot com forward slash may junkie video. So a lot of times if you see a recap with video highlights and you're wondering what else did did they discuss you can always go there yes. Yeah, it's subscribed in there. So I'M GONNA put off the rest of the card because I look it was important and there was some great bites and congrats, Tom Breeze and Chris Dacas and all those others you know Tom Aspinall, they look great. They really did DP they're calling on the other day from South Africa I don't even WanNa try his name duplessis believe drives can room so love in a second but hey, the light division guys is hot it is popping if McGregor as official. Chandler. Still waiting to fight still willing to fight Ferguson to forty eight, but it's probably not going to happen. How do you guys want things that out of to unfold from here remember Charles Oliveira's a player. Makashov's still wants to fight it to forty eight RDA dropped down to two to one fifty. I was willing to fight before got cove when everything starts to play out in this next cycle fights that that get made, how do you guys want? How do you guys want this to play? Go ahead Mike Domingo's. Get depends really so much on who wins the Habib engaged H. Wins Than I assume it'd be able probably got a rematch and then not hold things up a lot I had swapped progressional division I mean it's immensely frustrating. How few title-fights like undisputed title fights we've had over the past few years has like three since even maybe even less since I conor McGregor beat at Alvarez on disputed beltre's in a lot of interim title fights in there. So I just want to see the momentum you can book them up however you want the all I would love to see CPA A and honored do that rematch If it's actually going to happen will in these next few days weeks or whatever if they're going to be able to pull the trigger for November and December but. When it comes to light weight literally just pick names at a hat and match them up like the top ten fifteen and you're going to have some great matchups there. But I guess if you're looking at the very, very top to me, it makes sense you know gay cheat Abib Conard Boston Ferguson. Chandler. Dan Hooker and Charles all their. That's how do those topics do you think that'd be really it's a rematch if it's a close by her especially if it's controversial but I mean, if he isis them do you think you've see still puts him in there? I mean any chance they get UC wants to shove McGregor into a title fight McGregor also. I think you're right on that front I think they would maybe try to do that because ideally they're scenario would be Heb to be. You can put connor in their of Connor Beats Gay Cheat, and then you do the Habib connery matched with Habib challenging connor for the title this time and he connor has all the power and all that kind of stuff. Some sure that it'd be like their dream scenario I. Mean it all see I'm sure they'd prefer just Habib winds make a do the rematch there. 'cause you still want undefeated her be all that stuff. But yeah, I I do think he's earned his rematch. Did however goes what he's done in meet up C. Title Rain, and then you look at what he means the AFC in terms of the Russian market they don't do pay per views mid afternoon guys when it comes to know international markets, they're doing it because I think that Habib poor if I did like thirty million viewers in Russia or something. So there you know he the way he carries over there Ya you may not sell two million views on ESPN plus but what he's bringing bother side on his side of the world and the revenue yes you so makes off that more than makes up the difference. Goes do you wake up everyday. Ferguson. Says, all right. I'll be your huckleberry invite you at two forty, eight Michael Taylor or is it to close? Would you just rather? Gauging Import hubby fight gender gets his payday and then chandler versus Ferguson sometime in December is is that more ideal? What what what say you? Yeah because I mean, I wanNA see fighters at their best and really I think under that scenario I don't like it. I'd rather just let this play out and then but spree Bookham, give them full camps because let man. Michael Chandler. He's training when all that but he's trained for two opponents. He's got Tony Ferguson on his mind over year I want to take a fight like that. On short notice like this I want to I want him to make his debut be the most prepared guy but I'll tell you what that Tony Ferguson matchup of all the guys that I'm looking at vision. That's probably one of the tougher match Michael Chandler. Okay and then one more. While, the Connor Poi- eight talk more no, we have to do is wait two weeks and if Habib wins, there's GonNa be some sort of a call out. For say? A dozen. I'll still give you your five hundred grand or whatever it was. We agreed to now fighting a be like the I mean am I, the only one that sees that they actually they said the UC San Contracts and everything but I find it hard to believe re would not fight Conor McGregor if he wins and and this is no disrespected to Poi- just the UC sells these monster fights they obsessive room. I mean as far as I know, no contracts were officially being issued to either connor or Duston for any of the dates for January twenty three for December twelve for November twenty first century. That is the fifty five up. Yeah. I said this Simon Solano imagine editor kind of a reaction video and all the stuff happened on Thursday or Friday or whenever it was. And I basically said gallic that's the big part to be that doesn't really make sense. Dana White has said since January. Yeah January when Connor the at Donald Surroundings said of the past operates like ideally we want him to be fighting for title at that point we thought the scenario would be Ferguson and Habib refighting in April hubby would do Ramadan. They would fight in September when he comes back and connors like Oh after until September. Oh No, we weren't really to stoked on that idea having to keep him out that long, but there's a at this point. We're so close to it. Even gauge you happening. Why would you not wait these know what is a ten days at this point or something like that maybe a little bit less or a little bit more twelve disc of adults, the points or dealer. You've waited this long with connor and you've got him into this position. They're going book for a fight now the soon before it happens to me, that's the part where a ticket brings a lot in an. Someone else said to me I think it was Danny Shapiro who you guys know amid an interesting point on twitter saying that the reason they probably want car to fight in January is because a lot of people have you signed up for ESPN plus first time to buy cowboy and Conor McGregor back in January and their one year subscription will conveniently run out right week before conor. McGregor. Happens to fight again and that brings you in and other things and I know you may laugh and not as some people sound like to you. It makes all the sense in the world I'm laughing because it does make sense. In fact, let me get you guys with another one hopefully someone else instead this not repeating it. I, think conor this whole season when fought cowboy he goes this season I. think he wanted to get three in. He finished guys fast maybe even four up he really wants that top of the Forbes list I'm telling you and he. outduel Rinaldo messy. You can get about three of those in. And remember may whether it's kind of out of the way that's the guy that crushes everybody. I think that's really something he's always obsessed with, and that's just like a power in thing. So I thought why do you WanNa do December whatever you made versus cowboy what you'll make a December unless to be I don't think is GonNa pass the soccer guys or even the big time NBA guys because they lump in your endorsements and your Your salary. Why not wait till January and and see if it can if everything lines up for you the for you then maybe you can get those three fights in one year then and then for sure I think it'd be hard to argue when be at the top of the Forbes list. Is Possible I actually thought was really interesting to listen to an entry does supported today at goes maybe recorded like yesterday the day before on Teddy. Atlas is odd costs and he said he thinks. is trying to fight him because he is a southpaw boxing based fighter and it would help him prepare to go into a boxing match with manny. Pacquiao? The preparation and all that kind of stuff. So I thought that was an interesting Dustin. Now Know How much truth there is. What actually knows that made him stink that. But when he said it is like that is pretty interesting. So did they came back on Sports Conrad, company. So I thought he had already silent on a couple of years ago, but it sounds like he he agreed on something like it looked like something outside of just. A part of their management team or part of them being part of his management team was some sort of another agreement. There was something weird going on because I know when the first owner came out announcing, he was fighting Manny Pacquiao and whatever December in Saudi Arabia which it's Kinda funny. How quickly that went into boxing busted Gloria in a charity match in Ireland. I Bush is baseless the same time but nevertheless yeah I think there's a lot of different elements that night I think Connor? Trying to keep himself out there and Dustin. Wants out fight but early announcing happen there. You guys think Microsoft's going to get a fight. I got to fight very often I'd love for him to stay on the card i. don't care who showed in there but. I don't think he will. There's not a lot of people raise their hand for that fight. Yeah on the. Moulana hundred grand is. Pay Be. Democracy fight. Another hunter got if he wins right. Center I believe. So yeah. I did pushups hundred so I don't know. I think they could get someone for Makhachov like there's probably a lightweight out there. That's willing to fight them whether they're in the AFC already are not, but it's certainly not gonna be the type of flight. We want for this boy and not be rda called so that that was a pretty unfortunate fall off and hopefully already y'all alright after. All right. Guys when little over moving that's the end of the world. Thanks. For stopping by Mike Von. Folks he's a great on twitter One of the best in the business he was nominated for best journalists this year, the world may awards I. Believed they said. When when everything dry? Out She has not in October when they were gonNA maybe possibly even have it show but Kobe is wildcard that's preventing anybody for making any types of plans that involves like the typesetting of an award show. So I don't know if they'll do something virtual receive I get the CEO. Of Fighters only rob you it in have come on the show and explain what they're gonNa do but Mike is included along with Jon Morgan for best journalists I tell you the Castro with voting process is already ended. Let's you want go in there. Maybe sneak a couple in their if if. If in case hasn't closed but Mike thanks man thanks for joining us today. We really appreciate it. Happy. Thanksgiving Canada. Thank you. Yeah and. We'll talk to you soon sounds gas. Thanks Robin. GOES ARE GONNA, bounce on. OUTTA here You know again, we are coming up behind the Los Angeles Lakers won their historic seventeenth title and I mean, it doesn't get any better than that I think both of our teams got squashed in the NFL. So we were down in the dumps until Sunday night goes. Did you see Staples Center? You're going crazy over there the The supposedly, if you listen to the police scanners pretty ninety, sixty, three arrests. Cooperating. Might be attained version just Kinda like you know I love l a pint blasting through some speakers or something like that everyone go home. The Alcohol, use the they just don't mix you know what I mean. Crazy story wants a parade, right? died. We'll the tunnel. it was a victory parade and I. We were getting shot at with rubber bullets. And so we started running Meena Buddy Andrew. and. Everybody said this way you know they all ran lapsed. So we thought we'd be slick go. Let's go right. You know the police by. The police look right ball of those guys. So we ran right and we ended up running into a little bit of a dead end. So we had to go around come back down and then we're walking through a tunnel and then all of a sudden that whole mob which had at least been. To. Three hundred people it was like the running of the Bulls they were all coming our way. And it was just us two and we kinda like get up against the wall just. Brakes they were getting shot with rubber bullets, they're running running links was a stampede will almost got crushed it would make sense to join them. Wouldn't it? If they're running away from rubber bullets, I know well, the pack is running but you know there's only a few in the back they're probably even. Possible could get shot. It's just they're all running at the same time. Viewing seen, the warriors is a great scene in their leader clean on says run against the grain or something like that. All, right. We gotta get on Outta here. 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UFC 260 Recap with Don Frye and Sean McCorkle | MMA Roasted #611

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UFC 260 Recap with Don Frye and Sean McCorkle | MMA Roasted #611

"Some reading here the way this is and gentlemen. It is time once again. We're favorites midst martial arts podcast recording out of los angeles california amount of stead with concern. That guy a ready. And they raised the podcast. The adam hunter here. We don frye legends. Fry waiting mccorkell. Greg just cancelled because he got audition. So addition And hope you guys doing well Things to get to first of all you ever wondered on house gets to a certain point with somebody like you just hear a story like how does that happen. So i was talking to my buddy absolute mayhem. Who haven't talked him in a while. But from what. I hear he's doing well he's doing better. He might be getting out of jail soon. Hopefully he does a dude has he had so many funny stories about this story. This is crazy so there was this girl. I know that like a friend. That i knew he was getting together with and hooked up with and he ended up. Oh here comes sean. And he ended up Peeing on her right but never actually hooked up with her like he's like man she didn't put out. She didn't like me but she wanted me to get you her but that was like what they did. And i'm like how. How do you get to that point. Like how do you get to like you ever wonder how someone just like you start there like does ago where close it's like. How do you say. I don't like you that way but you appear on me Like i just that way. We're on mike. I never knew how one how he got to step four. Because i couldn't do it the first three steps that are happening with you know they'll throw tick. We'd appeal and the areas not visible. You talk to sam a gordon or something like that. i'm sure i'm sure there in missouri. They do that all the time indiana. So we're talking about mayhem. He told me one time he hooked up with this girl. Waiter up with her. I know that they're that they're like left together at this party. And what happened with you. And he's like dude. All she wanted to do was on her. I don't wanna kiss me. Didn't wanna like make out like like how do you get. How does i don't even understand how someone get to that point. I don't know about your guarantee she had a ton of self. Respect has started originally with respect respecting yourselves. But i never understood the guys who are excited about that. Like i had a guy time man girl. Ibp on her afterward. On what wow. That's my toilets meet every night. I don't get excited about it. Strange thing yeah so. I did a show last week at arizona. I didn't show and there was a couple. And the woman looked like wasn't bad-looking but she was predominantly older than the guy and the guy looked like a young dog. The bounty hunter scared. So i was like what you need. Is it a homeless shelter. And i said well would you guys work in. There were homeless. And on my okay i go. That's about. I mean that's probably good. I mean you can only go up from there. I mean you gotta make sure you homeless or was that just the way checks. He went to the shelter to meet women. Because i mean if you go to like i a guy that used to have a car and he would pick up at the bus stop. He's like yeah because brive up like. Hey you guys need a ride. 'cause compared to he couldn't pick girls like who had a car but at the bus stop. He's demand dogs. The house hundred. He was very unsuccessful. It a home. Oh yeah i mean. I don't know. I just thought but i mean they were happy. But then i'm mike. So are you guys still homeless and was like no. I'm like how long ago you has homeless homelessness it five years ago. I said what are you now. I'm retired. I what. That's the one thing i miss about. New york is like first of all. I think new york is the most. I lived there most my life. But it's the most non-racist place i've ever been to because everybody for everyone is scared of the crazy people like you go. On the subway white people black people asian people like orthodox jewish. But the and they're all looking out for the guy talking to himself streaming stops doesn't matter what race that person is. That's the person everyone's like. I never one time. I was on the subway and there was a homeless guy that was like hey who wants to hear a joke. Give me money. i'll tell a joke. I'll tell joke for money. So at this point people just giving them a dollar tells and then a whole other homeless guys heckling them go. Don't give that guy any money that his joke suck right now. We don't know if they're in cahoots or whatever so the guy collects like while dollars and then he goes mumble. Something and leaves like nobody even know the joe. He just ran off the subway. The other guy gets angry. He added her coffee year. A t. year battled for his urine hand the cup and he threw it at the guy and he missed the guy and hit some random woman walking like outside. The subway got splash was a couple of p pop one. But that's the kind of stuff that i missed. I mean it's constant entertainment. I remember one time i was hung over was one in the afternoon and i was like i slept with this girl before and i was coming back and i look over. And there's a horse like on the subway like pony a mini horse right. So i'm looking around like and no one's even like paying attention to this as if this is what happens every day. There's a so. I there's a little kid next to the horse and i'm like hey is is that a pony and she goes. Yeah he's blind. The guy had like a seeing eye pony. That was like on a subway or on a subway in new york asshole for not knowing that underlie the story about the guy. Doing the jam comedy. Finally the backstory on how brennan shop got his start. Gandhi guy on the subway so joan terrible jokes can understand right before the stories. Do you guys watch the fights. I did yeah washed. I'm soon don. Did you fights down. What are your thoughts about the Gone over steep a well. That's that's the way to lose a fight does the way it wouldn't it lose it. Mvp arena mats or nobody your field. You know nobody's at st days that he didn't follow the game plan. I would hope not. I hope that wasn't the games game. That's a really big player. But what was the game plan hit. Well he said he was the game. Plan don't get hit the other guy. Yeah well he said he wanted around to feeling really good but i gotta say that what they didn't look like it looks like he went back after around. One and ashes corner. What do i do not ask the corner in the middle of the fight of what do i do. It seemed like i don't know he. He took a shot for. The show wasn't a great job but it was a shot but just when he took those huge fucking lunch box. Bits to the face. It seemed like after that he did not want to be there and like the entire octagon was flipped upside down or on its sideways. Or whatever sean could you relate to that that feeling. I never want to be on there when i was fighting. But it's i dunno mandat. I my son asked me because apparently influenced him and now he gambles on sports which is good for a nineteen year old. We spend all his money on but i I told my son. I was on gone and i actually bet on him to win by knockout in the first and second round so it's Like specific he win the first or the second because the thing with him man on steepest probably better overall obviously skilled fighter by god who only has Wants that's the problem only has to make contact once. Chances are if he throws enough of them. I mean when he knocked out came last with what looked like a quarter asked book and dropped him. I was just. I don't know what. I don't know what you do with that kind of power. It must be legit. Not everybody's you know getting fake knocked out by. He throws he throws punches from six inches away. Maximum blah like. I don't like with six wind up. Like i don't get it man. I don't understand maybe it's mechanics. Maybe it's just natural skilled. I don't I was ever big punch like you understand it but yeah it's I don't know. Why wouldn't i mean he'll he tried one single seem you keep doing that. It was a successful. But i mean it's a lot better than you know. Stand there just trade. With the guy i don. If you're a fighting and guy your game plan b. I sure low single to the out so i commend from behind that She's won't be in front of the guy so yeah give me said low singles of the outside come up from behind and go for the game on the ground over the. Yeah i mean. I obviously easier said than done. I think there should be a rematch. People are saying why. Have a rematch. What i mean. It's one to one right whole. He's a champion. We deserve this. Yeah i definitely agree with that. Now john j-o-h-n sitting there calling with greater cmu. Never oh bucket. That's the case then. Young maggie's revenge john jones. Obviously he moved to heavyweight. Now he's saying he wants more money. I which i like. You know the problem with john jones is that there's a risk involved you know they have managed to move the whole arena to a different state that like accepts. The fact i mean there's all kinds of problems with insurance there but at the same time who doesn't wanna see that i want to see it. Everyone wants to see in. The fight would make so much money. The build up would be great before the fight. I was saying that. I thought john jones with beating god who after watching this. I don't know. I don't know sean. I'm gotta go with john jones bank. Because i think he sold his soul to the devil like a after he'd be first ray beat him. I thought a don. Johns wrestling by ordinary. You know in a fight and Yeah i would say. John has looked great response for isa. He'd have the reach advantage over in ghana. He's got more reached than him John jones is amazing at keeping the distance or whatever. I mean god his chance. But i think john johnston takedown data for me. He can take down You know take down in. Ghana's assure now i think i'll take him down and beat the brakes off of them But that's like a win win because either way agency one them get knocked out so it would make me when travis brown fought rented shaab. I was the best and worst day of my life. I was going to get beat up for was gonna win. So talk don frye. Who do you think this one. No no definitely. Don't confuse too. Good job No no yeah dog. Oh please i think you know you said jones is and lead you down Journal being but i mean della could have been a week of the year for wrestler of that way. Glass you know in the us event. There's always give her things. That two way thing is completely different creature. Fear lot stronger And you know those those sixty pounds baker a hell of a lot of difference. But how of difference i mean i so you you see people and wind about five pounds you know but seeking down search just changes the whole aspect of the game and he's a freedom nature you know he's so damn strong So that that's the interesting part of it you know and jones is not gonna be able to knocking out. You know guy can take a helmet and the thing is going to be able to handle being hit by somebody a strong it. Any rogan made a good point about maybe having a twenty pound weight class to thirty as it did seem like steep. It would be the champion to twenty to thirty you know and it is. They're in two different weight classes. I own a euro. Here's the thing here Steeping us good new. Fuck and Camp i mean they gotta worry that they did a good job getting there but they cannot keep him there. So you know he. He needs amy's a whole new crew from on those coaches. That part of the problem is he's by far the best. I in that ten. It's kinda like i mean. If you're calling me and asking me to come over roll with you you got real problems in your camping out But they were they. Were hitting me up as a few years of aetna role with him. I said dude. I'm like i don't even train him where i will get murdered. You know and i was able to get them a real good. They're real good boxer. Here in indiana a He he got. He helped get ready competency with mark. And but i mean if you're bringing in guys from out of state and they're not elite guys. It's just like any. You know. I mean anybody can get or whatever like you're calling me when i'm forty two years old role with the problem. You'd ever want to be the best guy at your gym. Unless you're the best in the world guys. how much money. Oh it was just. It was just for free for pictures i think. Or whatever like that. There's your answer you know. I mean concern calling people in just to get photos or or just brag about an or walk into the rain. You know that means. They're not there. Don't know the thought they're doing. You gotta spend money you know in order to. She's always i mean. He has been money in order to improve well. I also can't believe that he's a full-time firemen. I mean i can't like any other sport where you could be stupid. I mean you quit. I quit my job. You know when A decision are you going to be a fighter. Are you going to be a a real job. You know you gotta make the decision and you've got gotta pull the trigger One way or the you know kids tend to grow up your coach every day for you. Sean lee The i'm making coach. I have died conditioning. Coach seventy pounds seven weeks. That was pretty impressive. that he's able to do but My first year coach best advice you ever gave me was always start on bottom matter one on top and a fight. You're gonna be alright. So i was actually more comfortable in my back than i was on top and fights because i always trained from the bottom eagle sleep. Somebody just started around bottom again. So i always fought for my back end. That was probably helped me out a lot. And though i felt really comfortable site for my back As opposed to being on top as long as you not to how considered on tom. You're always gonna be alright. So what about you. What's your back coach. Ever did for you fighting trump. The they just say brian claudy people and Steve oh and he always dissect the the applauded very good. You know he was real good at watching films you paul so he knew what he knew. What the hell lundu before they knew what to do so he had a good game plan going out when i was a high school wrestling. I was defending state champion. And i lost four zero five. I was like. I was like cutting weight. I was the hydrated i was. I was hardly champion. How i won. I won the main stage. But then i also wanted to england album england's and then the class a champion so but my coach after like my fifth loss came to my my dorm room because a boarding school at got me out of bed at eleven at night and say let's go running. We're running and i was like what we ran like three miles that night. And then as you're gonna turn this around and ended up winning like four tournaments in a row. And i beat. Everyone beat me. It was just like that. Like and then when i'm coaching remember when i was driving this little kid just in his father wasn't around it was like a brand of a broken home and it was. It was over the break and i you know i went to his house. I would see him. Look through the window and i answered the door like nine in the morning so i was like fuck it. I just walked in his house. And i went upstairs. Get out of bed. We're going to practice so you can't do this. It's not legal. Let's go. And then. I took him to practice and then he made fun of meeting entire time and he was like there was a billboard a little black super funny it was a billboard said anniversary lukaemia eggos coach. I got ten bucks leukemia. And oh shoot. I was like and then we gave. We wanted to think of a joke. I and then we print practice right. We we live we sprint. Beat his friend. I got beat by twelve year. Old was fast as it was like ninety pounds. So all right. We're going to do five miles. I knew we couldn't do five miles. I pull over or around the track and gives after my one. But now i can't quit. I can't show him that. Like quitting is okay at the finish the five miles all he sat in my car. And then i get in there. And he's laughing on my whatsoever and he goes. I made my dumb ass. Coach run five miles but he actually called me recently and thanked me again man. I'm gonna play in college football. I want to thank you for all the time. He up bullshit. But that's a good coach. Does you know like a good coach. Like the you remember. I think we remember the worst coaches you had and you remember the best codes. Now woodley right. Everybody wanted tyrod willing to throw more punches. I think he threw too many. He's through all the punches. But i he fought like he went out on a shield and he saw great but he fought reckless This time it was the most citing would long time but now he's lost four in a row and doesn't know what to do. What did you think donald the fight. He's a lot better than he's look those last three losses and again you know you're losing streak and your professional fighter you get a new crew. That's all there is to it till you either either that or you retire. you know. there's there's somebody not doing something correctly and Nobody ever wants to take the blame. You know they always wanna blame somebody else. Well no that's that's what you gotta pull the trigger so okay i still have it. I still wanna fight so I'm sport robe. My my team needs to go. I mean need to get new team. I need to move somewhere. Were you know or else say okay. I'm done that's it. I think got habit anymore. You know it's so somebody put the big boy pants on and say. Hey i mean the crew the crew. They really care about him. He should quit. You know. I mean there was some somebody that hall. I don't understand. I understand 'cause i know what they're doing but i wish the seaman when a guy's lost her afford a road the former champ give him a fight he can win. I mean don't put him in with one murderer after the next I don't like england. Bj penn just wanted to get one more fight. It's like okay. let's give you. Let's talk dago sanchez. let's give you the number. Three right guys heaving beat him like it even if you look at other sports like basketball teams do doesn't play north carolina than gonzaga then like top ten team every week like they go. Start off slow season. Slow with you know five or six games. I would just like to see the you have c. on occasion. Give everybody something you give a guy give him a guy that he could or should be. Maybe a guide top twenty but not the top ten. Just sometimes you can change everything renton changer. Your mentality can trade your confidence everything just knowing what's up to win again with especially when you only fight once a year. You're going three years between winning. You know how they do. Seems like matt brown or even ceremony. They kind of do that sometimes. Do other guys they just keep putting him with murderers don thoughts. But i love them. I mean they can get money out of town where surani win. You know so but ken again money out wrote. Won't we would or you just lost him. Let's and nobody likes you in the first place. I mean that's the thing that's what's the personality of the guy and marketable is worth shopping. Sm yeah when it comes to women. I know the call them. Like slumped busters like what a guy hasn't gotten any in a while. And then you just like you. Like i gotta fuck something just to get confidence up. They should have like the slump. Buster may fighter. But even if you look at you know pride back in the day which was obviously more talented than you have see but you would have fade or would fight that big zulu guy than a random asian guy then cro cop and then cro cop if you also fade or would fight like gary goodridge or somebody. He could be a couple of guys then they match them up with mark. Let's say or whatever. So just like i don't think there's anything wrong with building up a little bit. I don't know why it always has to be top five guidance. Top five guy. Trust every like in every you know like they used to do loser verse loser. Del lost two in a row to beverly silver loss. They put them together that way. At least one of them gets a win but another road gets a loss either way. So it's kinda like. I don't know why they both couldn't fight someone. They can be And not only making a joke. But i mean somebody. That's you know they're gonna win seventy five percent of the time and give them the opportunity instead of just but like don said they don't like wigley. I'm sure they probably done with him. So let's build everyone else called tomlinson The guy can't remember the who he just. Vincent whatever his name is just keep build other guys off their name and then cast them aside you know and then yeah i was happy for o'malley look good. You know. I don't know what happened to that. Brazilian dude like he was a monster and then just i feel like brazilians when it comes to losing confidence. They're the worst when it comes to like go win in a row and then they lose one and then i mean that one guy barral like he was like a murder. I mean all those different but some of these guys they lose one and then they can't get their confidence back or something happens there saadah or whatever but yet man like happy for o'malley that decades of stud i mean he's got power he's awkward. It's hard to train for. I still wanna see how he does against division one wrestler. I now now. They're saying him versus dominant cruz. Very interesting fight. Because i don't know man. I'm personally it'd be crazy shit stocking. Dominick cruz has been in there with everybody. You know he's gonna hate o'malley you know he's come in prepared. You know analysis try got under his skin. That's a good fight. Al i mean cruise is hard to hurt hurt. He's great. he's a very good wrestler. Got great footwork. I knew who wins that. Fight or cruz sean. Only same weight class. I was one forty five. But i guess he won. Thirty five then I want thirty five. I thought he's one forty five. I could be wrong just off what i saw on. But i think he's probably not dumbing cruises tight so other than being a dude So they probably would probably not get along like you said the press conference Probably go at it. 'cause it's like two dudes that cocky can't complement each other for sure. You know so. I would love to see that. I think it'd be a great fight. Mandates wasn't o'malley's out for a year or two on some kind of bullshit or somebody like that sucks that he wasted a year two of his life over something. That doesn't even matter. You're not stupid like that ran. So hopefully they'll get him back in. They're pretty souks. Didn't look like looked really good man. I was talking about him on twitter. But he looked really really good man He's super athletic. Some of those spinning back kicks and how success was doing to do it. That fast in a fight and that fluidly minute remind me john. Don't really like some stuff evolves off would be later came by and You know either way it wouldn't hurt. Whoever lost you know It would help whoever warp with our j. loss because they both you know have a have a pretty good name As claudia call is some might say boost to so good. So don do enough. There's a new threat on the underground now about prime. Fry verse prime randy guitar. Who wins. You wanna discuss this one. No but you win that right. Don really doesn't wanna discuss moving right along with us all right okay. Brian damn okay. That's segment so i got. We got we got a new dog. So rescues i think what they do is great but some of these places they make they get the the shelter and get all the dogs and then when you wanna get a dog they make you go through like three interviews come to your house and it just becomes kind of like invasive where you feel like you're being judged and a lot of people off and it's like the other day i was i did a show in arizona and this girl came up to me afterwards. His nice girl. Tuesday danish guy t edwards is a fighter. And she's like. I work with amer rescue options tomorrow. Come by so. I was like i call. What kind of adoption agency otc. I'm like am. I gonna get thirty seven. I'm going to have to call my first boss and and like my ex girlfriend and all this. No it's easy. I go there. Sorry other dogs went home like all the dogs at home like yeah. We have no dogs. I'm like but it's let me just see one dog like no to leave. I'm like what i just twenty. I'm a barkley dog like like it's something that was so then some other. I was on facebook and some girls have listened. This dog has one. I because it was staying with this other guy who had five dogs and one of the big dogs. Bits out. and it's not you know. I can't keep it and it just. It hasn't been chipped and it hasn't been this that it hasn't that area so i went down. The woman was super nice for doing this. She say about area to now. We have a new dog. Who's uh he's a pomeranian and allah. They come palm cheese. And it's really sweep so it's got one is so we might call biz bing I actually texted is being. He says you have to name it. That of course But so we have. We have a new dog. So i'm very happy. Any update on your twenty thousand dollars. My dogs are doing great man. I was just thinking you said you went down. There should thought about like dog. You should just went down. The border picked up a kid. It would have been less hassle like they're not gonna carry those. Give those kids who ever wanted like. Oh you want one. You have a phone number. They can call you from okay. You'll take them like that's the way it is and they've already gone cages. Like your set either way to treat them like animals down there so but but it's not the same because trump's not the president so it's a it's an enclosure where they're very humanely treated. Everything's great from what the media's told me so she's gone so back the dying you know so but there was a girl who was like a big youtube star was like i'm doing very well and so she says she reached out to a shelter. She posted it shelter and said hey. I see this dog. I go hiking every day. I go running. I loved this dog and the lady writes back. Sorry he doesn't like hiking and then she's like so. I can't get the dog i she goes i. I like hiking. She goes no he. Would he goes. He'd hated and then that was it and then led to the threat of all these people that were like. They said that. I couldn't get a dog because i wasn't going to be home for two hours a day. Somebody else said that. Like i didn't make enough money. I mean it just like what are we doing. You know what it's like anything that people could be like. They have power over other people telling other people why they're not good enough to do anything. It's just fucking crazy. I'm more concerned about the later. That thinks she's talking to dogs. They're told her they don't like hiking. I am concerned about what's going to happen to the dog like somebody's to that lady but i tell somebody the day man it's i you know. I love trail mix on never seen that like obviously in store. But like i was like man i loved trail mix but i hate hiking like my. Life's a mess like you know. Like i can't eat it anytime hiking but yeah then i did a show last week and this happens all the time where they'll be a couple they come to the show and they just make out the entire time they're like some like Like a table in the front and the girl was hot. She would you know forty seven cougars and the guy who like a tight shirt on a guy he was hot too big and there's going out going at it and it's kind of distracting grabbing his coffee and like you know they're going forward. I'm like why are we going to a comedy club in doing this like i. Don have you ever been one of those. Pda guys knock to better extreme though. No no you normally. I'm always uncomfortable. Because everybody stares at me everywhere i go anyway so that just makes it even worse if you're making or whatever so like just finding data used to hate people staring at me and my dad was like on the time like telling me Like maybe they just say. Hey that guy's taller that guy's good looking. That's i think what. I stare people's lookout good-looking. That guy is it But yeah yet looked. I will to a night show done. I stared out the entire time. Us there so. I wanted to pretend like it was famous. Everybody knew who i was. But like i still don't know exactly what it was about. My brother told me. Is you know somebody's looking at you. Like yeah i don't i don't know man so. There was a girl that like was had like the titus pants ever seen left wanting to look at her ass. Like i n t gets up. I'm like what do you do for a living. And she's like. I'm a loan officer. I'm a loan my cock address and that was i got a big laugh and then there was a guy in one of the tables who was mexican but i know that because every time i said hey what do you do. His girlfriend would yell. He's mexican. He's mexico like that was every every answer right so good job probably had twelve jobs then it was nothing but then there was another with a fighter. Jonathan pearce was fighting from tennessee. So i go way where girlfriend. And then she goes here. Oh i am. I got the comedy club. And then she's like yeah. Six months ago senator guy goes those. They weren't even open back then. Like what are you the fucking cdc. Because he's mexican. And i'm like yeah i know it's s i the see the cdc. So like i was actually quick. That was yeah then. I shot a movie right movie. Wear like it was short film. It was it was a Where wolf movie. Where frank so it was in tucson and the guy who they cast is the cop had like one leg like. He lost his leg in a motorcycle accident. And he's a nice guy but he's like he was asking me about like you. Start doing improv. In this night he knows lines he was did fine. They hired some girl where the where walls like. Hot chick shows up right away. He starts directing her like. He went from not knowing his lines tongue. Her where to look what to say what to do. And then i'm talking to director. And i the guy saying look i don't wanna hit on you anything but my trying to hit on you but you're the most gorgeous woman i've ever seen in my life. I'm like like she's been there for three minutes a my like she throwing her trunk. She's aware wolf and now a guy with one leg she's the fucking hottest thing ever and then there's of the director with my old roommate and goes out of used to hang the brain all the time i might want you telling this fucking girl. This he goes yet. So i woke up. One day would naked bongos. I'm all right like done. You've been some crazy sets you on the longest yard with joey dee as who else is on there. It was goldberg stone. Cold steve austin you. It was a. What's his name. Bob sack what was that. What was that set like talking to you on that. But it'll be another white guy. I thought you were in that movie. Why did i think he was a big stan. Which variable. and oh thank you very much for reminding me. That job didn't get. What was the most unprofessional. You've been onset and not you but people you've been around now we did is going to be one of the gals so drunk. Cheap tell the jeep you know And this she tries to blame me stephen Ship here listening and david arquette. Yeah yeah how bill did you know i. I just got some of that. Could be blamed for that claiming david yeah. He pushed me. He pledged you know he was nowhere near you accuse the so drunk unbelievable leo and someone one of those things like. Oh my god. Do i look like that when you realized you just confused don frye with burt reynolds right. I i knew for some reason. I had him in that movie. I don't know why. I just feel like he'd be in that you've perfect in that movie like i feel like he should have been in that. Move it right. I mean he should have been guard saying the n. word and set of stone. Cold steve austin. I think that's how i pictured on a farce of course apart who apparently apparently i don't have friends in the movies in may world Days they don't they don't spend your name around. You know they keep for themselves. If i ever have to help you out. I will ever ever ever. But what are the craziest fucking. Most unprofessional gigs. So i actually. I was doing a college sean. And the booker had already cashed my check like he never sent me the check and i kept the amick whereas the males in the mail mill the florida tennessee. Without getting checks. I fly into chattanooga did the thing is like three hours away. The booker's office. All the way i drive two hours of thing. Oh it's in my office. On the i get the check i go to the bank. The bucket it's a bad cheque right. Then they threaten to arrest me. I'm like these fuckers play. So i just hours almost got arrested right so now i guess you don't even do the college so i drive for college. It's a piscopo million college like it's it's a religious school one never told me this right i there and people are getting credit for like like going to my show for like as a religious credit. Like i'm not the guy that usually get credit unless you're like studying satan or something right that's not show you want to go to get there and the lady goes. Listen to you. Have to be like super. Pg and i'm like you got known told me she's like okay if it gets too dirty i'll give you the throats last signal right. Okay like a throats slapping chat likes like like cut it right. Oh her boyfriend was there. Seemed like we're like a navy shirt. Like thank god. He was era so right before the show they have an ice cream break. Wherever we'll gets like is like this is the kind of college it was and everyone's like eating ice cream right so i go up there one joke in. I'm getting the throat slash. And i had guys like my dirty. It wasn't even like the clean a clean joke off shit so i just ignored her and did like forty five minutes. The kids are going crazy laughing. I could see her. Just fucking fuming like steaming cutting out of her ears right. I got upstaged stores. May unlike like i go before you say anything bounces. Check on me. I shouldn't even be here. I almost got arrested this morning. Like i'm covering your ass and she's like. Oh i'm sorry to hear that that fucking got me out of it. Thank god like have. A bucket. promoter bounced check on you or tell you pay more honor me either you. Yeah i've had. I've been given counterfeit money In el paso texas about five rand counterfeit hundred dollar bills. One time at my business down there in a from different people like twelve customers and none of them spent five thousand wrong in the fake money. And i went to the bank and lady starts counting out the money and at some parts of our tournament. Pink and she's throwing that one pile and then my other money and the other so it ends up being like five or six brand in the counterfeit. I'll and two hundred dollars the not counterfeit file and i was like once and she goes. That's the one counterfeit and i was like. Oh okay can. I have that bat. And she's like what are you going to do with. I said trying to spend it elsewhere. And she's like no honey. I'll call the secret service. You're trying to you're trying to deposit outfit bills like i'm not trying to do anything i said. I was given that money today. She goes from several different people that came across from mesko. Then i'm getting the third degree about. Why am i talking. Why am i doing people. Mexico's trying to explain it. There was just cocaine while you're when the end of the world and i was Yeah i'm trying to try to explain the lady in the secret service calls me and they wanna know all while we wanna know who gave it to you. I don't know and try explaining to the secret service that you opened up a used appliances electronics equipment business and pass in the first day. You got a bunch of counterfeit money and you don't know who gave it to you. Don't know their name. Their phone number you were selling used washers to them for fifty or a hundred dollars a piece like it sounds crazy. Story sounds like a lion house like. That's that's what happened. I don't know what to tell you you know and it was like that was the time i had the fbi rate my place because in indianapolis and recycling company and i had made someone mad so they called and said i had a bunch of illegal mexicans working there which i did but they said that i had them locked. They had him locked in a basement. And what was it. Feed him and making them work like you know like slaves indentured servants and so they come here which i did also now. But they come in these five or six guys like all dressing suits in there with one of my workers. Guys gonna talk to you. And he's like. Where's the basement and i was like. I don't know what that means that the guy said where's the fucker you coming here to make demands of me and my business so we're like okay. We got like. I don't know what the are nicer i said. Who who you clowns like bacon demands called clown so we're from the fbi for. I was right. But yeah i told him. I didn't have a basement there in yesterday. World go but it's not my problem. You know what i mean. They have cards. Say they're not. Like it. May say bob smith and it's obviously a mexican that has a social security card. But i mean as as he had wanted admire me worked their asses. Also but yeah. That was kinda fun with the government. So what about you don near new york you ever get staffed people giving you several times. Yes they like one. One of the flights i mean. I'm told the story hard times. You don't wanna play seventy got me. I got me into it. You know fluted atlanta and Guys drive me over there liens or cross the seasons. Oh by the way. We can't pay you. You still want like yeah food. I wanna put somebody and stiff another mother. I must have several times. You know and there's really nothing you can do just passing laughingly you know you're stuck in their down here you don't know who they're connected with and get out there that unoki that guy not that fought. Muhammad ali back their heels. Me ten thousand dollars. I went over and thought so souto chichi onto thirty hours. Notice literally thirty hours after they called me in seattle. I was there in japan and the ring fighting for twenty five thousand dollars. I agree to fight This is like i wasn't fighting or training time at all. They just called me and said you wanna fight tomorrow. In japan. I was like damn good. The twenty five grand round trip tickets and blah blah blah. So i was like okay. Why not yeah. And then after the fight they gave me fifteen thousand dollars in their native speak english anymore. It was crazy like all of a sudden. They're like oh they don't understand twenty five not like we don't understand i was like no. It's twenty five thousand. And i call monte cox and he said i'll go give it to you. Don't worry about it. They never stopped me. And that's the last thing i've ever heard about so yeah i tried. I flew to england and got detained. Because they're like why here. And i'm like oh i'm here to do a comedy show and then i. I didn't read like one nine thousand emails that like small parents. Don't tell me here for a comedy show. You think that'd be like the big one right so they fucking they take me to a room with a bunch of runaway nannies and like league and then i sit there for like twelve hours. The tape passport who me back on a flight home. I never got paid for that. And this is like What's up guys better. Line is the fastest easiest way to bet all your sports action. I mean football might be over but the nba college. Basketball and nhl are in full swing. Bet bella even covers awards i mean. How cool is that. Tv shows and reality tv. Which i love to watch they got real time updated odds and props on almost anything you could imagine but line. Has you covered for all the news. The scores and odds is the best way to place your bets and it's free to sign up so head to the website and use your mobile device. Sign up today. You received your fifty percent welcome bonus on your first deposit but online. Your online sportsbook experts. 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You get more twenty five thousand dollars for fifteen. Yeah yeah. I mean it's crazy. It's crazy i although i gotta say like before we're going to asia was one of the most funniest experience like comedy and china i was like on this bootleg tour. Basically just like they made. It wasn't like mostly speak english. We would hope they'd be translated. Who's there we don't even call it comedy. They call american talk show. Because you're american talk show. And then one time i get there and wuhan china wuhan and he'll like oh you got your rock concert like no. We're not a rock band like oh we have to give you a smoke machine. I'm like no. We don't need what we're just telling jokes. You know so we have to give you smoke machine okay. So they announced my name all of a sudden smoke everywhere. I can't. I can't see anybody like i for the first five minutes. It's me for thirty. chinese people. Don't speak english like a couple of do and it's smoke and if they laughed so hard that was that was my stick like i couldn't follow the smoke machine. Actually post video camera films. Kogan said i go as it. The air is not bad enough. That think about about people realize when i was in china like everyone's like i don't think we have a chance about cleaning up this world because just being in china alone because i this for example i wouldn't. I got a coffee and i threw it in the garbage. And someone's like what are you doing. I'm like throwing something away like no. No no they want you to leave trash on the floor because that creates jobs and that people's jobs arctic pick up the trash so there's trash everywhere like like the place this. I'm like wait. I got in trouble for throwing away in cup of coffee. That was that was that blew my mind and also tipping like tipping is an insult in china. Like a guy gave me like. I bought like a coca at a bar. Was like five dollars him. Ten and he goes. Hey get out of here. Okay no no. It's it's you get outta here you get out of here. I could go amok like day. Get very offended you tip. It's it's i. Don't i don't know why i guess. It's a western gameboard. Damn they got a tip. I might mitrovica to make so much more sense. Like i never figure out what chosen problem was with. Daniel larusso like he would always attacked them for insulting his honor. Maybe it was all over tipping. The died ever go to any of the strip clubs pan. What's that you ever go to the strip clubs when you were in japan women from australia towards this. They all you know hookers real so it was almost a spy or something like that. You know it was like i. I'm not paying you for for you. Know i get bad sex at all. What about you mcchord. There have been a big strict. Tough guy no man. I always say man. I dated girls better looking stripper. i've ever seen for free. Why would i pay girl to pretend like. She likes like especially when galway japan to see in australia. And that doesn't make sense but it was all the way australia. The one time. I noticed that seventy five percent of population was asian. Which i thought was really weird like in melbourne australia. Almost everyone is asia like literally like eighty five percent or asian. It's it blew my mind. And i know that you know. I wonder when i was in vegas. This girl that was rock of love. Who was like i was. I just aren't chelsea the before. So she was like oh chelsea. She was all about it but she was really racist. Not gonna say but like people would walk by and she'd be like ooh this but she was like hot. And i had that dilemma of like should i take your home or like me. But she was racist but she was hot. Try i compromise. When i banged her. I'm like yeah. He likes black dick just to lake know but at the same time but yeah i did i take the poorest are karaoke to came to la shawn no no. That's one thing. I miss it so they have this thing called poorest karaoke in. La would used to be where they had porn stars doing karaoke right and start off like the really hot porn stars. And then what's everyone got worried about. It became the the c. or d. level was like a chick that was on like one episode of comic classic part seven. It wasn't like oh not those plastic tears from back door. Latin slugged five. It was pumper versus the background. Yeah here's one chick. That was giving a blowjob in the bathroom to the men's bathroom. And it was like a small afro so it was like one stall so you to use the urinal and you heard her blowing some dude and then when she left clapping for her. I forgot her name. Broke the record like most guys in one night or something. But i've it's okay that she was on the bench bathroom because she identified as a whore. I remember one time. When like that show christina dirty came out niagara dirty remember that that is like and it was like five hot porn stars like singing to it like just like freaking each other and like going to give me lap dances. This is pretty hot something on a table. And then ron jeremy's next to me is a pre. He was still thirty. Whatever and then and then be real shows up b real from cypress hill and then before that the band survivor formed there every week survivor like playing but like but they were like they were. I don't know they were like the big deals survivor. It was at star does burbank right. So then i'm like what's going to happen now. You got all the girls from my the frigate each other all of a sudden time timely walk like he got like the signal the horse signal through this so he shows up and i might the table. Now a timely may be real right as surreal. I'm fucking stone off my as like this is crazy. Some chick comes over and she goes. Look tommy i just flashed her. Ted storm right. Tommy lee takes a lighter as far as trying to like. Burn the girls off like he. Was this awkward and the girl just laughed it. That was the whole story. But i ran into get some about gasoline. I don't know where it gets her tips. I don't know silicon. But i'm like i mean time of these seeing that many tits where he thought like the girls tits on fire and that's the thing to do. Interestingly i've seen eighty million sets yeah so we some interesting. Yeah i don when you when you. After one year fights girls come up to you and just like flashing the tests. Oh yeah it was so many things euro when you when you when you would win allow never gonna last week loss. I know i ran into. Tommy lee the vip at ucla. And i told him. I loved his work in the fugitive. Like i said he was amazing and he did not get it at all. he just aired at me blankly. That's the thing man. I kinda missed. That's the thing about. La like crazy shit happens on stage on time with a dime bar. Seven people there. I asked the girl for a living. And she's like i'm a professional cutler. And i thought she was kidding. I'm a i'm a cutler i'm the i'm the only five star cutler google right and somebody gives her. She was like she gets paid for guys to cuddle with her right. That's like like like how much do you get. She's like three hundred dollars a night or something. Every girls like mad because they're like what the fuck of my doing with my life deceased cuddling and she wasn't even like the hottest girl she was like. I don't know what you think a cutler would look like you know so jay more was there and j. more secure. I'm gonna take her home the cobbler. He's like i'm gonna breaker. I might be so so then. So j goes home with her. And i actually. I'm jay. he's a she just wanted to cuddle. I might do. She's a fucking he goes he goes. I take her home and she goes. Do you want to be the big spoon or the little spoon. That's her line. You know and He was like the big boom that was his whole. That's i mean if jay break your he should have made her watch some of his movies. She broke immediately. So what do you want to do. Just turn it off. He charged him. Yeah of course. Yeah my roommate's honor Some the bill in the club. I got so jessica. I has fans account right. And she says hey. I have a triple x. or either allred onlyfans for an extra amount of money. So then i'm like well now watch it blow it in and out of the octagon so i called her. I'll make an do this joke. And she was like she was like. Yeah you asshole find up so then the other day she writes. I'm going to kick you in the balls. When i see you and i'm like how much extra i don't only fans can you see some of these women the money they're making on onlyfans on already. Not that i thought of jessica light on you're saying like some of these earls man i don't know like i just like i thought we thought we were in a recession and a pandemic like people have money to blow on a chick not talking but they're not going to hook up with the not like they don't care about you know. I don't know what you're getting that and i guess maybe or any course i guess maybe guys like it when a girl masturbating and calls out their name or something for like. I could sort of see that guy doing now. Like i'm gonna pay girl to masturbate. Y'all my name a better done not worth it. Yeah i just. I just i. We have joined the counts so she would like what is this. I can't kill me jake. Paul versus than aspirin. So they had the big d. Did you watch on. I watch the press conference. Yeah it's It was funny to see ben aspirin at it'd be a loss for words for i looked like he genuinely didn't know what to say back by can get a cortana what you're say back. So michael enroll when you try to talk like it's limited what you can say but Yeah it was funny he actually He actually seemed to be. I don't know jake was his biggest considerably bigger than ban. Well here's the thing about that. Right so i i was like j. Paul is gonna win boxing. But then i thought you know what like aspirin only had a fall back plan of look matter how bad this fight goes i could just take the guy down now. He knows he can't do that. So i feel like he's only going to take this a lot look like he's in better shape. It looks like he genuinely hates guy He and he looks like he doesn't wanna lose. I'm kind of leaning towards aspirin and in some ways. I think if he just focuses on striking for the next for the last four months and this he may come back to mma and be better fighter because now he has another weapon that he was never really wanted to use needed to us. Now we could actually punch a little bit. So i'm starting to get excited about it. And then him in moscow doll ruin at it till mozzarell- listen man. You landed one lucky knee. You got fifty fifth forty fives. Who oestmann like fuck you man like. Leave me alone I hope aspirin wins but he looked like even when he likes most of them like it looked like it was different ways. I think i don't know don frye. What do you think about this about what you through. Much of the local names out there. But what do you think about the win. This fight weights play man. Had all the jake jake. Paul versus has been asking who. I'm going to over to go. Ben but my record lately you know he'd probably be better off invites places. Jake paul. yeah sure. Yeah man i it would be. I would hate it. Data weisberg a million dollars on ben aspirin. The things you've got to remember too man like drake paula. Great against you guys who fought. How great would aspirin have looked against. Nate robinson and that other homeless guy. Like it's not. It's so easy to look good against terrible guys. Like if you put me gimme the biggest most muscle bound in the world who looks really physically impressive. Who's never trained before and also met him three times a minute with no problem at all. He doesn't know what he's doing. You know Making you look great. And they put me on their minds. What they're doing they. You know We'll give me all i could handle. So it's kind of like if aspirin fought nate robinson. He would often like five seven hundred fifty pounds and has never fought like. That's that's not like impressive win and like oh. He's a nasty right hand. Yeah if he can land on Aspirin but i mean oscars training however terrible. He made it stand up. He's been training for at least twelve years. Stand up regularly So he's going to his cardio. There'll be a lot better and for the first time. Jay positive find somebody. That's real muscle by that. Some students you know so. We'll see how he handles that stress. He's smart though the money they're making. I'll tell you what i know. He don't believe half what he's saying most of what he's saying but he's smart because he seems sincere when he's talking shit. Yeah no. i mean dana a million dollars he saying a million dollars on asking and then snoop dogg. Says we'll take the twenty. Two million and dana said why would i bet you. Straight up two million. The odds are two one on jake all he could double as you know double up money the way on the back but i thought was funny. This new thought dana would be scared about two million stoop probably has thirty thousand dollars bank. Dana seven hundred million to million things on all the commentary team is going to be. Snoop dogg and pete davidson and having all kinds of having justin bieber performed or the migos is going to be entertaining On the undercard steve cunningham who was like a legit boxer is fighting. Frank mir premieres tonio tarver. Tarver didn't pass the visible. I mean how bad do you have to be to not pass a physical boxing on jake. Paul i mean. Isn't it like touch your toes in hop on one foot or something i mean. How hard is it right. is it other interesting. That's the big snoop dogg or the commentating team. Neither of them have ever known their father. Like i think that's a interesting so for those of you. That don't know pete. Davidson's dad died in nine eleven. Thank you thank you for. It was a tragedy. Is you weren't offended when you heard it. Okay so now this week in bella tour on showtime who pit bull is fighting a manual sanchez. You guys know these guys. You should be a fight Pit bulls won like five in a row. Sanchez has a win over dana. Why shall speedy. Claxton georgia kerr canyon. I like this right A lot who fight sean. I'll say bit bowman. He's been looking. He looks like he's winds just in time to jump to the ufc like everybody else at the torso. He's looked really really good as last couple. Man like He has impressed me a lot of times adult guys. Obviously if you don't even know when the fight is you're not gonna you know know the guys but they I mean they get mandate. They grow some of their talent man. Really it isn't all just guys are of see sometimes like michael chandler guys like other come up with some pretty good guys on their own yet. You want to comment on. Its don cry. yeah. I think you said something wrong. Very careful yeah. Neiman gracie was only loss as to roy mcdonald. Fight and jason jackson. Who's really good. The guys coming off a win. Over ben henderson. He beat jordanian. He lost ed ruth. Although i thought he won that fight This kid's really good is last like real loss. I thought was the kyle. Stewart in in in two thousand seventeen lawson Now's the injury loss who knows what happened there. He has a win over diego. Lima two in t- tighten. Fc so yeah that's gonna be a good fight. It was supposed to be your boy where he pulled out of his right. Sean who who is it that material and pulled out or we pull pulled out. I didn't know that. I thought it was so find. Now's now tyrel versus jack. Nee draw some views anything. I wanna see a maze. Whoever you just on the undercard though magomed magomedov seventy two one guy's a monster He's fighting cj. Hamilton and roger is still around. He's fighting chris. Gonzales on the undercard. There's a guy that likes. His career has been so up and down. Roger horta let down but still you got the inside. Stir roger where to back in the day. They were looking for a guy to appeal to the latin american market I got this from a source. Monte cox who was really close to him i was gonna use an anonymous. But i'll just and tell you know mani told me that. He told roger. Hey you're not looking kid. They wanna build the latin market. Give you guys. You can be also after he wins. Four of five fights on sports illustrated. They're giving him every time there. Handpicking a guy who's never fought you to the die. They know he'll be right. So who lost his mind is like i wanna fight a top five guy when fight you know. So by real in bonnie's told him. Hey listen let's not get crazy. You know what i mean or whatever because monty can monte kostunica livy bet. He knows who's gonna win every single fight he can tell you how time all this cow this guy just been doing it so long but he told roj snuggie crazy. Most usa ride this one. It's hard enough to win in the afc brightness. Now i want to find somebody re. I don't remember who they put him it against but joseph was by real can they got him got his asked repeatedly after that or whatever they just almost kind of being got back in the day madison crossing you know. So yes what happened twelve. He could have been. I mean he had time to keep letting you win or give you guys got to improve. You gotta really been stop man but people start drinking kool aid sometimes and asking for. I always ask whenever they would ask me why i wanted to find the. Afc are fight the worst heavyweight. And you have see unless that's me in which case i want to fight the second worst heavyweight mets. That was always my mike. Flynn so fry. Did you ever call anybody out or did everyone call you out but even november ever called me out you right number around so there was a lotta guys calling him out on the set of the longest yard. But he wasn't there side by that. Brian rambles. I do apologize for that. The next week on showtime ryan hater beta respite cheetah. I at the first fight. That was crazy because bater had the right. Strategy of just. Don't engage. Take your time until something's there. Then the whole crowd booing like booing baiters like fucking shooting for a double and gets need and talking knocked out. It's like you can't listen to the crowd. I honestly think a lot of these rights. No crowd would be a lot different with the crowd especially the judging to 'cause sometimes like when the judges here the hometown guy getting chiro time he heads. They influence whether or not they were on them. Who like this rematch. Don frye machida or batur plaguing the auto makita. Oh i'm doing better. I mean better pulling out. There's time stupid plaguing that cheated. They stick to 'em check out their hands. You know what's very your game plan million. Somebody's here so yeah. As long as the keeps the kentucky down keeps up on. You know where i think baiter still read as prime really are close to it. I think the cheetah's gotta be over forty an hour or older man. I think he's Early forties. I think times well past. It's just weird to me that now. They're on showtime like they went from beyond its dose station. I forgot where bells was another on showtime probably following bridge shop comedy special. So there really nowhere now so i don't know i don't know man. It's weird they just keep changing ordeal zone exclusively for a couple of years. I thought yeah had to cancel zone in the. Why am i paying and his own. Fuck fuck do you. They said it was like ten dollars a month. You're like okay. I can deal with that and then what up to twenty without telling anybody run. It can't just do that John jones tweeted out. Please just cut me. You'd rather have me around and treat me shit. I swear the ufc industry has been nothing but depressing for me like my wings are being clipped. Just fucking me go. What type of weird should is. Obviously the boss hates me. Let me take my business elsewhere. We're gonna go you know. I can't really blame him. I mean john. Jones has done everything right since he got. He's been a model citizen perfect to deal with never showed up positive for steroids. Repeated fights didn't didn't 'cause you those are gfc to hundreds main event. Drop out like it's not like he. you know. hit a car. Hit a lady in a car and ran. He's he's done everything could ask. Why wouldn't they showing the money. I mean d'andre should be happy to have a job right now let alone want more money or a different promoter man like no one else would if there weren't on the promotion they probably wouldn't put up with but he vacated the two oh five rudge heavyweight so he went to the heavyweight he put up thirty pounds and now he's like i want more money. It's just how much did you say. How much money do you want. And then and then they could probably match it or put it on a pay per view points. Something everyone in the world through your heavyweight sir. You think so. I mean come on you know. He gets paper viewpoint so i don't know if he just wants more paper viewpoints or what. But he's his contract definitely has favored before senate. So i don't know what the complaints i don't see. I don't know i'm not there. It just seems like this is not the best way to go about it Because you know they're not gonna let you go number one. You're the best fighter in the world. You're arguing the best of all time. You've been a huge pain in the ass for people you get it but they're not gonna let you go your ballot for stroh time. I mean come on dude. What do you think's going to happen. I don't see the i. I don't see him not matching his offer. Unless he's like. I want eight hundred billion dollars like i. I can't see them being like no. We're not gonna go close to that or match that right. I mean they know how much that bring in now. Maybe the live gate because maybe that could be a hold up you know because they don't wanna go to vegas jacksonville again. I mean how many times there's probably other factors here. It's not a regular situation. But i don't see it. I don't know i'm talking to my ass. Wide people listening to this but it just seems like when is the lesser. He fought on remember john. John's fault lines was other. He hasn't really looked at good as last couple of either. No there was a long time ago right. Like when you're and a half or something. Yeah he barely. He barely be what's his name The kid from what was the riverside right. Gosh to do the guy who got knocked out by yamba kovic Yeah oh speaking of the ongai. Saddam fry me up and one hundred dollars yang against style benders at ag put some money on their formulated shirt. So he wins. Two hundred and fifteen dollars hundred dollars. Bet so i hit down at the other night Okay you want to put him money on this fight this happen than with and then twelve hours fight happens. He's got it dominant. Grey is all right. So let's order last fight. I thirty law. You claim you. You claim twelve hours late. Rear is the house is last friday he loss. I either loss iago sanchez. He wants us with decision. You could argue that. He lost out by. Do you beat anybody. Be gossip sent but but he's still at the same time he's twenty six and one. He's twenty seven on. I'll really he is twenty-seven or now It's just you know all the the outside shit. The kind of went on. But i don't know but i don't know about tweeting us. I'm not really sure this is the way to go. I just don't know that's that's who had defunct. Though i know now the other thing is that what's his name. Algae main sterling says that. He's not sure if peter yang deserves agreement rice. Peter deserves to beat him mercilessly again. I mean is that that's gotta be a troll right. He's got he's gotta be laughing about that like that i would. I would hope that he definitely doesn't wanna find it. It's one of the two so what what's up with that. You're clear i just got just got announced. Just now anderson silva starting julio cesar chavez junior at a boxing match junior junior do i said he's not one. He's not the one from the eighties right now. Not eighties his better. But it seems like all right so the forty five year old is reportedly said the fight who cesar chavez junior at ten round boxing match at least go stadium in guadalajara mexico. The fight is going to be called tribute to the kings. It'll be on down pointing more martin. Admiralty he died. And i still have hagler. So this is the first time silva competes in combat. Sports you're putting money adler yes. Oh thirty dog so chavez thirty five either job as wins this fight in boxing even though he hasn't really lived up to expectations and kind of like you know in big fights. He sort of falling apart. I think it's of first. Boxing match ever against chavez junior ally. Chagas you calvin fight his dad fight but i don't know about about the sun. I think it's awesome. That were slowly moving toward like the celebrity boxing model or just like remember like the refrigerator. Perry fought manute. Bol event willis for different strokes. Beat the shit out of the is like i were slowly morphine. Boxing boxing world into that. It's awesome yet. that's hilarious. I actually ran into willis one time they had me at the scott bay auto already golf tournament. Please tell me what he was talking about. He was playing golf and they wanted me to rose people while they're playing golf right which they cannot. Anyone playing golf. This is going to happen. So i was thinking going guy. Walking up the people just like like lorenzo lamas and so willis about to dig a golf swing. And i go what was jail like. And he's like. I guess the people he was playing with didn't know at the jail to exclude dell and you're like what's manslaughter like thomas on it didn't go. I mean he. Luckily he started laughing. And then i is thing and he was like you know. I'm like i knew you were going to be is like us time in prison. I was like. I made it even worse. So yeah that was so sterling things. Peter jon intentionally cheated in their fight as shouldn't get immediate rematch He said any other sport. Where you something intentionally legal you get suspended you can find. You gotta checked it. This guy is getting rewarded with a rematch. Which is a big fight. But it's like the could just break the rules. Nothing's going to happen. I just jumped. The octagon will happen to me. I just go and fight another corner. Push them after the bell. Let's going to happen. It's like feel like when you have rules for a reason. You kind of have to enforce them otherwise this has run them up. You're hurt we do here and you can't get tenure but is supposed to so odd. I worst acting job. That was the the worst sucking job. Ever see my staff and big stan or house may sterling great bumps up those great got it. No listen i think algebra has a point just not in this situation because he made he made randy couture bar randolph. Mike winkle john. Who's jones's corner. He predicts that john jones would finish in ghana late in the fight. I mean if he's gonna win that's probably how he's going away either. Stay away from him and points or getting really tired was run around for an hour. You know jump on what he's tire. Basically i i don't like what was that. He could play. Yes right his closest thing of your house but he'll darioush is fighting. Tony ferguson. that's going to be a good fight. Man tony ferguson. If he doesn't win this fight may want to go to. pf l. get that million dollars. Absolutely what i would do. If i were him like he can be anybody. Dfl easily you know. I was thinking earlier real quick not to change the subject but you. How don brought up marlon brando. I heard somewhere today. That may not have you. May have heard does on being an hollywood. Is it true. You think marlon brando. Richard pryor used to have sex with each other. Yes that was according to richard. Pryor kid right said that somebody else said close to him. I the only thing other reminded me that. I was thinking of the day that i saw clip of rene job. Doing stand up comedy on On youtube and i read a comment comments. It said a branded shabaab. Is this like our generations. Richard pryor and by that. I mean he's bisexual and i started laughing and then i looked at. It was my comment. I made two years ago. I own comment on youtube and that really made me laugh. I i didn't. I didn't know it was my comment when i read it under top comments. Todd so rob font is taking on far. They both want to knock each other out. If that's the way coding twice. I feel like i feel like cody can win almost anybody. If he just stays away when he gets into these wars ee derek. Brunson told me he's like. I figured out getting into hockey fights. I had a fifty percent chance of winning. If i actually fought like stayed away and got out with most of the fights don. I feel like you know you're one of the guys that that doesn't work for because you because no one can nobody can out. Your heads is fucking hard. Nobody hockey. Yeah hockey you. You're a hockey puck. thank you i. I'm a hostage right saying you're a hockey puck is still funnier. Them like like just the fact like this here like people could read the phone book and be funny and fry. You're one of those people. Matthew congratulations So what's your assuming. Duncan read but kind of a jump. But i'm good. So i m thing you're in missouri there. You're a hockey pont donald. How about that. Yeah exactly all right. That funny bernie okay. So here's a steepest. Said first and foremost i'm okay. What he said it was that fall wasn't my most graceful fall. But i was unconscious so it happens cry cry crying and my family and friends especially croatia in cleveland. I love you. I'm sorry letting you down to my team thank you. We went as a family lose. The family losses aren't fun. They always tip for washing for awhile. abuse business. You can't win them all. Don't forget god always put you where you're meant to be at that exact moment you can't you can't dwell on what you should have done. Better forced deviated from the game plan. I felt great coming into the second round. I saw it. I was beginning to go his plan. He was getting winded. And it came in overzealous unprotected. Talk as good as foster to take the hit. The opening did it when he would do and he he he graduates. What do you think john. Some people would say that sounds like excuses to be. It sounds like wrong. Sorry hello steve as awesome. Yeah no i mean. It's i mean it's pretty simple. He just got hit by a guy who gets harder than he did he did. I thought he's standing on it. And i think that's natural reaction. Try to follow it up. But i think that's where the mistake was getting overly excited. You hurt somebody and walking toward it. Hits hard little crazy. Now it's crazy. That's that's the most hurt. And god knows ever been that like that's the thing about in ghana he's taking no damage to any of his fights like even john jones has been through wars. Wars has yada yada whereas these guys never have been heard. He's never been rocked. It's it's wild. Don what did you think of Steep as on ridiculous We win as family. We lose the family bullshit when there's nobody around they all servier. Yeah your house was full of friends. You know pat on the back. You'll lose if the quiet quiet place. That's the truest words ever spoken man. I never heard from anybody when i lost not a. Are you ok not just like you said i was the only one well. Yeah but i mean like as far as supposed friends and no-one said nobody ears remember what you're the only one that asked me if i was okay after the fight other than like my mom you know what i mean or whatever but i mean no friends. No not but bad. You ran every person you've ever met. Your life wants to corner next fight. You know so well this. I don't want to walk down to the ring that you go to help. Yeah fucking job circus act. You know i'm there to play. And they're a fight you'll get their shit talk down to me or knock the shit out. Somebody there to be on tv and a way to your way to some asshole you know in the seventh grade. I used to tell my fridge. Tell me man. i'll betray plays with you for one day like my friends from before. I got a little bit famous and anytime when i'm melissa one of my i had a third spot for a third quarter man. I'd let one of my buddies do it and right before the fight started always looking at me like want to trade places now. Because i don't wanna be here and they always good good. That's what i thought. Spa i'll tell you about a half hour. So sean what do you have coming up. Just saying stuff the mill and fighting ticks. We got chicks everywhere out here man. It's just live in the country. Sometimes all it's cracked up to be especially gotta go in town to get an internet server. Don knows what. I mean but Now mandates just doing whatever it is. I do you don anything coming up. I just wanted to podcasts. Going still a hard thing is getting people to show up. You know the all make promises to be there. And then they comes from the day their and they disappear and You know like you know anything about that what you have. That's bull set on. You said you were coming to my show in phoenix. You never came thursday friday. I was in town for three. I got two hours asleep. I drove fucking tucson film the short film as a fucking drive back and do two shows at night and then and then i did another and then as back six hours sunday so you could have came to phoenix with a. Where are you going back to arizona out there. Don me when it's going to do that right successor. You claim you never. You never told me where you were working that. Really the text ons a hold on made tech scene. Let me know. Let me his tax. Let me know where the location isn't connor. Thanks man. I'll be doing comedy tomorrow night at seven to nine and sunday seven at at high street. I'm in tucson filming all day. And i gave you the exact thing thing and you wrote on courts pictures three hours and then okay. I was there from nine to two three. Has the drive back you. of course. that's my favorite rock. That was your text back so there was there was no like. That's what you wrote. That my favorite rock. So i was. You could have had the phoenix thursday. Friday saturday or sunday and i was only like four hours and i was so fucking tired bro. From driving and sick up drilled. You drill down drove back. I was sick also sick and i also drove. I drove five hours on thursday. Gives it a gig. Did a show. Friday europe sick is that which is a yes. I was also sick. And you also had a bullet wound and an arrow pointed tax. Do to suicide and Got off the here. even then drove through. Ceann did the entire iran to show saturday night. Sunday show drove five hours. They asked him to open john cleese on monday yesterday. I couldn't even. I had to get in vaccine shot. I couldn't even open for john. Cleese from monty python. I'm like no way you caught up. Yeah my how. Do you want the opening for john cleese. Yeah okay ford you fuck that up. I gotta get a vaccine. Why why could these over ninety. No i'm around people and over ninety great no. I had to get a vaccine. Monday in la. I had an appointment. I had to drive. I had to drive back sunday night. I back six hours tonight La sort of fear of living l. Air mega serial la. I live in l. a. So you new house where it's like in the valley and that but yeah. I knew you were mad at mean for that. But you could've came to phoenix bro. You're like i'm coming to your show a comedy show. You'd never came to the show. And then what. I told you exactly where i was going to be you go. That's my favorite rock. That's what you said so picture. You sent me a picture of a rock and a cactus. There's an there's an address attached to it as as pima county thirty six street trail head three to eighty six three tucson. That's that's what i sent you the fucking it off course. That's my favorite rock book. Just so everyone fucking nose like this is not me. I go look here. You go buck in. Let me know where you're done. Thanks man i'll be here and this that this that okay. This is not me. This is not me don. Hello are you there. Yeah i'm right here synagogues where you're at right now. Maybe you can't fine you in the closet. where in a row. I saw dan. Kenny this What's his name. The guy you know. Listen no i. I was exhausted. I was sick. I still was hoping you come to the show. And of course is big time for you. I was only in tucson for like three or four hours. Because i two hour drive there at seven in the morning and then i had to get back before the show and two hours drive back so i was only there and i have done this fucking thing at that. Rock i might. Maybe you'll come to the fucking about place. But anyway i don't i love you. Don does sorry that you got upset about that. I thought maybe you get your turkey about it. Okay all right. Listen this week. Our be in chattanooga tennessee at the comedy catch at the chew room chattanooga. Oh come. And then i'm i'm in miami. I mean at the boca blackbox in boca raton. Florida in two weeks. But i thank you guys and take care guys be good.

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#547 - Don Frye and Jake Ellenberger

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#547 - Don Frye and Jake Ellenberger

"Traps. Traps. Rat don't. Tunis Astakhov Dot. Talk. People. PODCAST I'm here with one of the best fighters. Ever. The talk by you're the top fifty easily, right? Top fifty you think. Maybe by appreciate that company, the topic true Jay gala murder top fifty I mean look you you knocked out Jake Shields. Who was number one contender? You knocked out. Nate Marquardt. Kmart was also number one contender. Champion. He was also strikeforce champion, right but. For the title and the UFC right and if I just Silva. Neighbor did yeah. So he was also. Yes. So and then you'd be Palay who was also. You know a guy that beat Matt Hughes the first part. So I would say that you are in the top fifty. Which? Is. Pretty. Amazing. Not many people can say to the top fifty. In what they do of all time. I don't know many people. So. Compliment. I WANNA. Thank our sponsor speed marijuana is. Legal in. California to get delivered right to you at speedway DOT com. So, there was some great fights over the weekend We'll we'll go over those first of all about about my at my week frigging that. So I had a couple had two kids that came over that I coach wrestling. That were like your parents like, Hey, our our kids tested negative for Kobe in. The starting the season next year eighth grade. Can You do some private coaching? Wrestling Room back there. I. Like sure went up. There were GONNA Father's GonNa pay me but you a outta great kids. Probably the best could ever coach. He won the tournament three times and it's also hard because now. Wrestling people think that wrestling is. A seasonal sport it's not if you WANNA. Be a good wrestler. You GotTa do it while months out of the year maybe. But yeah. I mean, it's almost like any almost any sport like I remember when I was in high school you know you could play. More intermural, you could. Basically all you sell them refine, but like if you want to be competitive the next room. Yeah. Right Compete. Especially, the around especially, if you're going to be a freshman on the wrestling on the high school wrestling team because that's that's always the hardest you know anytime, you're. Like when you're going in this brand new, let's if you've had a lot of success in middle school or even in high school. High School these guys that were like state champions and in their freshman year, the record was like five and twenty. In college is this a different? It's different. You know so. The logger. Pretty. Pretty much like the the the hardest year I mean Freshman High School Freshman College, you know that's really like you find out onto the reality. And I I got a quick example. My Good Buddy, my Tom Louis us if we're jam Nebraska. Yet a full ride I can die of and His first big match I think he was the Guy Zach were over fifth year senior and I would say. You know I think he was a close match. Pointer to. You know todd lost in. Four years he's not used to eat a true freshman this fifth year senior And that would will hard to do it. You know what? I mean I think a lot of people. Freshman the freshman sophomore usually you make to your kind of boot camp. Look. If you make your freshman sophomore year, you're going to have a great junior senior next couple years now as. A kid wrestled. In New York he was a five time state champion. That probably the only ever to. Wrestle. For Asu now, the wrestling team. Last year has record was like seven and four or something like. This I've time state New, York state champion it's just a different different. Greg. And you go problems. A boy a man you guys. Better skill developing there is. Only. So I'll I'll wind doug how are you greg anyway. So this this father could hey, you help coach my kid and I'm telling you even have first of all these because we're not in great shape one of them threw up after the warm ups. And ups and like they were saying like the kids were like man I, I ran I lifted but this wrestling shapes the whole different kind of shape. You know how? Like they hadn't wrestled a couple months. But it felt so good to coach again. Just to be you know. Like I'm telling you after this whole lockdown as over if they live just the little things in life, you're going to appreciate so much. Oh my God. Awesome Dude So that was it and then and then I'd actually took my kid to. I took my kids to the park and because they have this little little like four kids. Now, five kids that zoo class but a little kids playing around the teacher whereas like a face mask, of course, you know to all the parents are wearing masks It's Kinda sad in a way. But at least it's like something and my wife is a completely a Saturday morning and she's wearing like a shirt. You could see her nipples like you know like you. And I was I was like you're not going to wear that. She's like. Well I. Guess you think I'm GonNa. Jealous of like that's like, of course, exclusive breastfeeding and. Those kind of funny Kinda funny. But Yet From court. Right, I actually. I actually auditioned to play a lawyer. So actually I was just getting ready for. Rows. So. I'm sorry about that. Guys. L. Looking good how you? By the way if you go to court now virtual court which they have get dressed up, you do right. I. Want. Know I would. I would do exactly what I'm doing now, which is dress up from the way stop if you look at if you look at this, I'm actually wearing shorts. Right. there. This is literally just a waste of shot and I have to do the today. So let's Assume comedy show, and I'm now I'm like I've run out of audience members now hitting up people that went to high school with. High School Twenty three years ago. Do you WANNA. Come to my. Wondering if that was going to happen because you do it every Friday. and. So I was like I was like. You headline it every Friday. Show and I do want once a month and I. I still give people to come again you. Have a have a lot of I have a lot of regulars and I off just booked a special. Filming, a special. legit. Special like in like next month. So I'm actually really happy that I'm doing this 'cause I don't. That's awesome. Yeah. You gotta skating in practice four. We shouldn't. For can you say no I'll give you all the details off the air Okay. Well, that's awesome. Congratulations. But but but one of the things is that. So I write a bunch of girls high school with a couple of my crush on you know like and like now we're all in her forties. Look good but I was like, yeah this is what I do I just. It's not even a real comedy show I just. WanNa, Bang and high school, and now I just look at me now. I'm on zoom. Don't. You wish you had me anyway. Let's talk about the fights going on. So Derek Brunson Edmund I called it. I fucking called it. I said this dude is not ready to be a gatekeeper I that like fighters get super insulted when they know they're being the gatekeeper when all of a sudden you're worthy hot prospect one point and now you're the guy to meet the other guy shine and a lot of guys take that very personally and they're like fuck that like not so fast and I'm really happy that handle the Derek Brunson. was, great, dude. It was a grave fiber. It wasn't just I mean if you're gonNA, make somebody a stone, don't make the made of that. Usually those guys are using. You know serve four down card, but they made it the main event. Yeah. Show up and I'd he's surprised a lot. Now. That's a lot to come into. I mean seriously like you saying it's like. You know he's relatively I. AM relatively new were in his career still jumping to a main event but not, Brunson's no joke man he obviously, he deacons incredible guys is. A great job no I don't think it was talent difference because I think eminent super talented. It was strictly I think a cardio thing a pacing thing it just seemed like Edmund was out of gas like he was just spent Do you think that Jake is a lack of preparation? you think it's nerves motions or do you think it's just the guidance got everyone out in the first round and doesn't know how to prepare for throughout fight. Where I met the the combination you know it's it's nerves like I said, there's a lot of things coming into play when you're the main event. You know combing event and event there's a lot more media. There's lot more attention. So there's a lot. There's a few things moving there but No. Actually. It's like if Thing, the whole wrestling were striking. There's a lot of different interest use them so I mean, it's a you know. It was it was a lot for him to take on but yeah, I mean I don't think it was. I think got tired and obviously. He got hurt when he when he was tired going to. He got exposed like no. I don't think it was an exposed thing. Yeah. Ran Out of gas I early, I didn't think he ran out of gas I. thought it was a power difference as Brunson just had so much more power I. Don't think he was used again hit that hard really though and I I mean because they even said in the first round that Eban, how a lot more power than Brunson. Brunson. I think their power was a couple of Bachelorette really slowed bound was taking those shots to the face from Brunson I. I thought it was more about power than about standing. We I was completely wrong on this, but I thought I'd been win win very surprised I think Derek Brunson. He's has what ten more fights in the AFC fifty more fights than Edmund came down to experience. He knew the pace himself not to talk about and he knew did not just go full hog wild in the first round looking doesn't chasing down so. I was really curious about what you guys see. The fight have been stopped at the end of the second round when he went dared. Big. As. Elbow at the Bell, what do you guys think with? Really. Julia was saying I think. You know they experienced Union Brunson fought smart. The first round is very patient so that that's what impressed me about him hover smart first-round eating. It didn't put himself in danger like peace in the past with other guys are on right and that was a departure for him though, right? Like this is like a no saint for him to to pay some of this, right all right this. This can't you guys know this was the text from my friend Jake Chris him before the fight he's getting into. Ma. Is GonNa win guys who's underdog learning a May. He looks like. Do. You think it's a high because I go. Listen I. GO BRONZE IS GONNA win. He's been bigger fights. He's a vet the other guys unproven brunches due for a win is a guy that has potential I have he's pissing a gatekeeper bucket bull look at that people. Okay. Homey fucking Miss. CLEO okay 'cause I had it. All fucking right on that one Thank. You. Guys. Many. No. But You know yes I do. I do now. No I think edmonds not the guy was done in fact I was actually kind of annoyed at Brunson because of the second round he had out and it was kind of pacing himself with his punches and my grow get this fucking Outta here. And it seemed like a little holding back in the second, you don't want to expend energy. I I don't know. I I. Didn't really think that I think maybe he didn't realize how bad he was hurt I don't know there's a Lotta things. You know the recipe had a lot better. You point that we did but. It's one of the things would it be would there be a lot of objection accepted I don't know probably not but it's hard to say you know what? I mean. A lot of people were calling for the show, all the texts that run on the screen. Now, all the all the tweets yet and I need a lot of people were saying, don't him go back for the third round? He did legit look like he was out at the end of the second I've thought especially when he was calling the Dinnie call for the doctor to take a look at it like in between like I. To me once that happened I thought they shouldn't have. Let him go back out. I I with everybody else between then they should just now because I feel like a hammer to nail anyone can be the hammer when it comes to fight not anyone. But like a lot of guys could could win when early when big but it's how you come back right? Look this dude. This you might come back. I mean, we don't. We don't know a lot of fighters have come back and been the mazing I mean GS P lost to Matt Hughes early on in his career a lot of guys you know now. What I don't like is like it seems like what a guy come out hot does a huge by train behind them and say I, mean this Guy Jeremiah Wright. To the UFC and already people are like talk to him, fighting CONOR MCGREGOR and I'm like. Like much fucking relax on. A little bit like. Come on. I understand we all like undefeated fighters. There's levels to. You know. For example Sean o'malley Cody Garbrandt those who are going at it right now. I just think it's too soon Sean o'malley. He's got a he's got some pretty big win. According Ghabra as at the top tier, I mean the top of the top. Let's. Let's. Let's slow down. A little bit I know we're all looking for the next big thing. Let's really let me just. 'cause Edmund did you guys feel like physically he wasn't To be physically, you didn't seem like he was fully developed yet. When you think of UFC fighters fighting at that level main event I mean, there's a certain amount of physical A. Years he's not going to I mean, he's pretty felt that he's going to be. He's not. He's not fifteen years old I mean I I don't know. To me, it just added physically. I was looking at him like because I know the story starring US twelve and everything and I just expected him to look much more like you know what you expect from UFC fighter fighting in a main event. I was a little worried about it. That way G.. Q.. Again, there's a lot of. A. Lot of things thrown the one. Twenty two man that's like twenty two what about what I was? Mean, you very mature for his age and again this just big for him. But he's or do you like in the Marines you. Fucking Weirdo? Yeah, but then made of any. Talk Show Yeah but you were like marine slash fighter slash Bettas I mean that's about what Greg Wilson was doing at twenty two I mean that's a better example like I wish I could even remember I really had no idea. Know you someone else to tell me I have no idea how many times in your life have you cocaine out of a girls butthole. Three I mean that is not it is that was not in every weekend. Listen when it comes up, you keep riding the train baby. Couple times we're in you worry that it wasn't all just blow that you got. Yes. One time. Yeah. That's. That's real thing. There's Many. Times have you done blow out of a girls butthole. Euro Times. You're missing out. You GotTa get in you gotTa get in. Too. Late now I do it again, my wife wasn't GonNa let me do that. So I'm off that train as. We know you guys. ABSO-. I gotTA. Go. Now. Was You. Guys I love goes much. Sorry about this. You gotTA. Roll cabinet take. Good look good. All right. That was was Greg Wilson. I'm still waiting for the opportunity to snort cocaine out of a girls anus to arise I will gladly take that challenge. Don't you have a girlfriend? Yeah. So I'm probably going to have to do it when she's not paying attention she's not looking anyways back there. Right. Got Her head down to the pillow so. Got To do a quick, get my cocaine out that I don't have right now definitely not in my nightstand and sneak it in there. Dude. All right. So let's talk about. I've done cocaine twice in my life one time a girl did it off my you know. An offer me of I was like. All right. I mean if you're GonNa do you might as well, right? Yeah. So anyway, Joe Joe Versus Maya speaking of Nice butthole. About. I thought that I'm big Joe Joe Fan I'm I'm I'm friends with John would great guy. You, look. I mean something was off. She are striking. She's a world class striker and she's wants a multi. Like tournaments back into Asia and for a world class striker to be. Out Struck. By Jennifer Maya WHO's Jitsu? Woman Something was not right. She threw up after the fight says she wasn't feeling well, her she passed out you past what has asked out a what do you think? Do you think like has ever been in fights for you jake or you just felt off? Hersher. Neither being like when you wake up, there's days you just still off, you're not clicking but. It is it's weird many than like. Maya she did you get to specialist? Obviously? You know. Some of it's just opportunistic. She knows she's she's been. Thinking about she's fighting somebody who's kickboxer boxer like you're not going to sit there and range in name try to out much their. It just be able to you know be efficient effective you know and I mean I agree I think look off with Joe Joanna. You know we can move on. Hope we she can A. Facto but I knew like right away like sometimes like you watch the fights and the within the first twenty seconds you like Ooh this person's not under game, and then you've gotta wonder like okay. I guess it's tough for a fighter because you're like, well, do I pull out like the day of because I'm not feeling well. We can do it I'd so it really dependent I guess relate to myself with somebody fights where. Same thing that people would like I can tell within five seconds if you're gonNA. You Be Jake you know what I mean. You. Can Forget but when I Think about that like how how you start kind of like how you stood arc is going to be how the fights and ago and there's truth to that I. That Brown was like. All right. Let's. Let's if we're going to go. 'cause I was always a late start and you don't want to be playing catch up in this game also. So it's one of those I knew if I could come out starting starting hard we can have a good night. Was it the first time? He was real kicking your life by the way to find. I. I actually. Yeah. That's specific. Kick drilled kicks like four months with Egan everybody give you it's gotten but A. Take delivery because I mean he pad. He had trouble passing. Taking body shots. But now we are we actually non where if you press the button, he goes down like right there. You just get that button right? It's almost like Mike Tyson's punch out remember the right side yeah. But if you can't get that a win, I remember that I was like I didn't even know even knew how to kick like I've never seen before in your life I was I was job we? I've never seen a fight throw king maybe a low kick here and there, but to fucking make rare. Now. But said they luke, Gabor's Randy Brown. I WanNa talk to Jake. This is up curious because Luke was was on a tear. He was not like a free fight winning streak and any fought wonderboy and I had bet I'll Luca win that fight a losing any wins his next three fights. Okay. Randy. Brown. Look what? How did I go? Out Struck them. Basically just beat him karate fight. And I think there are certain guys out there. That, their losses, but they're just they're so good at one thing. That's probably really hard to train for a guy like Steven, wonderboy or Damian Maya Or. I don't know let's let's say I mean wrestling. You can find a lot wrestlers but they're so specialized that almost. Like. An asterik yet it's a loss. But you're not gonNA find another wonderboy out there rhetoric I. Wonder. Why am I right in thinking that. I would agree I think it's tough. Hers. Not Very many. How many guys are exceptional one thing they can still compete and win at a high level not many I mean the idea, my the asking the people that are very or they're the best in the world at that one thing. But even like aspirin like, okay. You walk into any jim in Calvin in the country and find twenty one wrestlers. You know whereas you're not gonNA find a guy who was like a tenth. Dan. Karate fucking stylist Competing in Ma it's just. I mean you're not gonNA find is. Maybe. You'll find just guy but like not at the level of Damian. Maya just because there's so many wrestlers in country. But there aren't that many guys that take riding to that level. So it's gotta be hard sometimes like who did you bring this germ? Who did you bring into train for wonderboy? I'd if you guys that were more so like kickboxing getting that range in of style but yet. Again. It's really hard to just barely trained for a few months for style but. and. You know it's wasn't like my my whole would leading of. What I said got out of context because people are people laughing at karate. Listen. Only. Pump the breaks here. 'cause there's not how many people can fight. I should say real real ma and compete and win at our karate guys. There's two that I can I don't know I W. MVP. wonderboy. MVP and wonder boy I mean. Who else if not a lot right? Who is who is who is your second? What who's the other guy you would think of? Why I could? machida but. We can hundred Blairite. Yeah. Those three. Use that in in in actually win or be so good at their disciplined in beulah compete at high level. It's nearly impossible. No, it is and I remember like when Matt Brown fought Thomson he was like, yeah, he's one, hundred, eighty seven, and now in karate he's like I'd need fucking eight thousand of. You know cab drivers and Jim teeters Yada Yada so I mean I think that Matt Brown tough them. I know I wonder boy even came back because that was one of the worst beatings I've ever seen was matt round versus Wonderboy, and that was wondering why he'd beat the shit out of him and I came back and has had a great career. I think he's also a guy that. I think he looked over a lot because nobody wants to fight you because you know that you're going to have to train a whole different style of fighting. It's probably easier to fight a guy like John Fitch then wonderboy. Course Because you easier to prepare you to prepare. I mean the actual fight, a guy who's bryner like John, fix nobody wants to John Fish but but I'm saying as far as like you could. Yeah. So anyway So that's saying that loss deluca I think is People that are like, oh, he lost a wonderful but I don't know if people realize how hard is fighting like wonder boy. I don't even know where to start like coaching you jake and I was like are you gotTA wonder boy five? What do I do fucking bringing a bunch of karate? Is I mean that's not even gonNA. What's that GONNA do? They're not gonNA make riding. So Also Bobby Green Verse Benneteau I was happy about Bobby Green because there's a guy who I know when I was hanging out with cody bonder and those guys over at a riverside I may have got named the gym. They were all saying that Bobby Green is the best in the gym that this dude in the gym Fox everybody up. And I'm like. Well, why do you get knocked out by pouring eight seconds or why? Or why is he not fighting his level? I think a big problem about experience fighting is that he curses so much in fights and talk so much shit. That these judges are. Giving the close to the other guy 'cause they're like fuck this guy, there's sitting there while a guys like saying the N. Word but you're saying The clothes are not going to bobby green and I. Think might be because he. Shit. But. He's great and I'm happy for him because he's a guy that like he's streaky fighter is a that loses five and the winds five in loses the but you know I'm happy because. I like him. I think is good for the sport and I think he's Maybe, you know. Turn things around. Exciting to watch big part of it and he goes we got some momentum right now. So. It things like a cool cat and I don't know but. Now the first part of the card cody dirt in against Gutierrez. Kevin go back to the delegate fight. What did you make of that? I. I'll would as far as like lifting them up being I always thought that rule was Kinda stupid where if you have one round I feel like I understand it but I just feel like people were gaming the gaming, the system you know and I think if you're gonNA MAKE MMA as close to a real fight as possible without somebody getting their neck broken. then. You can't have these like. Bizarre roles like the twelve to six elbows or guy has one fingernail on the fucking ground. You can't neom because now all of a sudden it's becoming A. I don't know it seems like it's were were cheating the system a little bit. So I'm happy that they changed the roles now, but it's gotta be hard because I think that. This dude thought he was safe Randy Brown and his mind was like I can't get need because my hands on the ground and then he lifts it up while he's out so. I think it's A what. Did you. Look Win. Yea. It's hard because a guy who's six foot to one hundred and seventy pounds in Randy Brown. Is A hard guy to pick against because another guy that like like step through it's like Where do you find these? fucking. Six foot two guys that are what is hard to train for those guys Randy Brown actually. Shows he's really good. He's really tough but I, but I knew when he was when Randy Brown fight landed like a spinning back elbow or something that was really nice and Luke ages laughed at them at the same time acknowledged it like hit I was good I knew browser trouble because. If other guys like, Hey, that's a good shot night's. It's almost like he's he's really comfortable in there and. He knows something that's going to happen that's going to happen. What do you think he goes from here? I think he's a top five guy he wants six, hundred, seventy you know, I? Agree. He'll get a big fight. No big side next somebody net how? Have, you ever pledged to guy had them laugh at you or smile? Yeah. A Lot, in, training I. Say. When we thought but. He's kind of a different breed on on his own. Now so like when you hit a guy right and you hit like. I don't know twenty. How many knockoffs you had. Let's say twenty. And all of a sudden you hit a guy he smiles at you what's going through your head. Independent I. IT depends on him with I hit somebody who right hand and they live smiled like. It'd be long. Jab In me laugh. That's pretty pretty pretty normal with. Him and they laughed like. We're to psycho bad humor laughed at. They hit you. I'm sure. Yeah I I. I. Mean I don't remember but I I'm sure I did. Not Do when I was when I was wrestling college. For like wrestle I don't know what it was I think might have been like the weight cut or like just like the meat being angry I was wrestling or but like guys shoot on me and I would clap them. Like I was such a fucking asshole like something like or like even like you have. For a shot or you club ahead and you over a shot I would just club guys head for no reason and he would I, remember guy looking at the craft like. You can't do that. But I think something comes in your head where you're just. I just lost my mind when I was wrestling I was came hugging. Yeah. Though Is That I. Just relating to that like people. You put your. Nice. Different. Guy. Cool Guy. I mean you gotta put your mind. You know you've got yourself muscle. Mentality. Takes people to be like they're you know like Guys that are like. Out of their mind but somebody. Takes. The to get. For where a lot primarily by ear defending. Champ and it's fucking Ken me and he screamed at me on a while he hasn't been a an arm to screaming and then he and then I ran five miles every week just thinking of this guy screaming at me for the entire five. That's all I would think about and then arrested him again in the in the New England's semi finals and I was like I knew that an order be him get on his level of. Intimidating guy. So my come on what you want a piece. Amigo like. Me It was like not going to beat a guy like that I had to I had to. Show that I wasn't afraid I don't know have. You ever thought a guy like that where you had to show him that he can't intimidate. No. I. Think we call. But I'm sure. I. Generally, I don't remember. But yeah, I'm sure. Okay. Do you know you have an atom? Did you beat the? Beat my beat them six to two I. Actually, I actually had an ankle pick. was, I never had an contact with like thirty seconds late like it was right of I of course, I'm aglipay a my whole wrestling career and the last night, which is head down try to get up. Had had had a car tire but do and then I almost. Back and then his brother I think he was Puerto Rico rose hearted yelling at I'm like you white boy beat you and like was all racist I was actually. Unlike a lot of different levels. Now. Cody dirt. Right. So he was a guy. Obviously, a good wrestler because he had that. All American. Tattoo on his back as when you know guys A. fucking American You know he won the first round they called it a draw, took them down and control them the whole time. Did no damage I mean and they gave them any. And I rob with this like look as coming of a wrestling background, I love wrestling. Boots toward the wrestler what if you take it out holding their? Don't do any damage it should be made. Like. Agree Rounds and they called the Bra but unlike The other guy did a lot of damage in second and third. He catches hold the guy down and call eight I don't know about that one. Other problem was Martinez who be sands the Guy Miss Weight by four pounds. Now, he looked a lot bigger to you must by four pounds. That's halfway to the next class. I don't know man I almost feel like the fight shouldn't go on usually give the other guy, the win bonus and the money because now there's no need to be stricter penalties. Yeah what do you think the answer should be Jake? there would the other you know the fighter, the option if you're a coin weight, which of course you like yeah. Money does but. I think it should be stricter penalties from from their. Commissioner from. Whether it's Just, pensioner. I. Some people say. You start every. Ten Nine, the other Guy Guy who may wait That's tough but. Maybe. I maybe a big fine. I. Man. Percent Your your lose sending your perks if you'll make wait. Wait probably. You'd never mislaid right. I would. Hope not. Fuck. Out. All. Right. So the fights this week waiting for Gerald Mirror Shard who got rotavirus he? Knew. and then we got we got Don frye coming in as well. But let's talk about Let's see. Technology. I feel your pain man. By the way congratulations to you birthday. Your daughter turn one right. She did you. Appreciated I sent you a card, I know crystal the to. You know have birthday. Taken kickstarter. Thank you. Thank you know. So this week. Bed Henderson Michael Chandler man if this guy I want to go watch. An I went to the. Lab in Arizona and I watched sparring day and I watched bed Henderson. beat a bunch of UFC and bell tower. Every round the suit goes. fucking. It was wild and while his holding the guy down his talking to his wife about groceries picking the kids. I mean this. multitasking. Henderson, just went through everybody and I was like, wow, which made me appreciate Michael Chandler a lot more because Michael Chandler dominated Henderson and it's one of those things where I'm like Men Majesty like the best guy you've ever seen another guy beats him. Now why are they having seemed like the only guys that gender can't beat are the PIPPA brothers I don't like those guys have is number the fucking pit bull brothers but everyone else chandler beets who will fight. Beltran. Albert. I N he's going to be a great site I need to be a little more competitive. In their first fight but think. I think I think China get to them given the nod I. Agree. He's also a guy that everyone keeps forgetting about member channel was like a one point the big star Bela Tor. Has Gotten like people have moved past him not talking about it as much And I think that he resents that because. I don't even know why I mean the laws tours acl or something or it's put is put off during the fight and then he came back and beat that guy but I liked gentlemen now match own is fighting Tim Johnson Tim. Johnson's the guy that you should. See is an army veteran is from Omaha or from somewhere around there? I think Fargo North. Dakota he is a driver at one point also worked at a strip club as a bouncer. Good Dude. This is a good country. I got a three fight losing streak about to be cut. He was the gatekeeper they threw in Cairo fortune with them worship an undefeated stunned and tim just knocked napping out coal. So he's coming off that that win Mitchell is a guy that like every time you're like he's GonNa win he loses everything you think he's done wins and smirke. He's one of those guys that just. It's hard of your card bit Joe's mom. Hard to Benson to. It Stuck I. I cannot write him off and was like Whoa. I, mean. With the fatal at one. Yeah. He's not a good. The double knockout fight that one. Yeah But anyway so you don't anyway. Lane were shot. It's like not even necessarily who is a better fighter per se but to land I. But like Ryan Bater just destroy Mitchell I mean just ran through him continue Johnson was a good wrestler American wrestler is he gonNA stand up and striper them that's the way he can lose or is he going to use his wrestling up but to nothing almost never uses wrestling some reason funny material story. So mccorkell told me he flew out to Vegas spar with him and every day told me to pick them up at like ten am. One day. For the entire week put them up and corporal corporatists went home effort week just basically just gave them a free trip to Vegas and there was the one day s Barney that's matt material and I happen to like Matt also Aj Aga's arm know him. I do I actually know both him increased? So Aj Aga's arms guy that up did. Leave everyone's leaving the second thing Aj exile, a guy that He wrestled for Osu I think he might have walked on a good wrestler a solid dude. Gratitude you to I think he plays the Big Tournaments Brothers posted crazy drunk videos. He's trying to be like the Bagai of Tor. Against Chris the only another character to just special like. Who is this one? Fight. I've seen both guys but you know I thought Sunshine each he I think he's underrated. Man I. Know why he he surprised me? Mission, he's pretty good everywhere. So I'd say the more well rounded fighter abide go with Chris We'll see I mean. One of those games too can can AJ. The pressure, take him down and do you know what he's better at which is grappling and submissions? But That's a good. It's fun. I'm going to be. Watching that one what's up? Joe Good News. 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Think that Bill Torch should not put on the car, which is like come on guys because I think this is like these two characters. and. They're fun fun. I know that Aj why I fight He lost fight ever and then he was like managing the for awhile. Heard, some crazy. About that situation but. Just, he was trying to like basically he was trying to you know. Promoters I. It's not my stories tell. But. So Aj yeah I'm excited about that. One also miles Jerry versus Georgia Canyon. Another fighting. Coming off a loss to AJ McKee got knocked out wick There's another guy that everyone loves. He said everyone in the gym says it's guys like fuck and. The. The guy that hasn't always richest potential. Miles Jerry. I don't know why he left the USC. So confused. Really. Was this. I am I mean towards Georgian but It's a good fight that's an I mean miles of talent. The I didn't I didn't realize. That'd be fun to watch I'm, GONNA. I'M GONNA go. And then the UFC Saturday night now all nick versus Derek Lewis I I think this is a play to make help make Lewis a star he probably figured when Lewis fights ratings go up and they're giving them a guy who I didn't know wasn't a to fight winning streak guy fight so much forget the fights he wins he beat resume any beat Maurice Greene. So I mean beating doing look how good won't last night Derek Lewis. Man I mean he's never submitted right never actually submitted. Everybody. Loses a close fight where he'd gases out think? Cormier. Korean took him down and the naked choke don't. But how I know why I mean. It does seem like this fight is going to end in the first round with Derek Lewis. Punching. All nick knocked. I will tell you. I will be very the inside meeting I'm. Not GonNa Sense but it does my right that this is. kind of a layup for Lewis. Again I'm I've been so bad. Against Louis He's one. Of those things but I don't know I don't know a whole lot about it most. Again moved if they've been in the first round I'm going to go. On. It's like seventy five fights he was Zeki. Old Joke every other time. Play Ezekiel choke wins and he's a fun guy who seems like a good. You get help but like the guy. Yeah I mean. Even, does get click. and. When he gets clicked he gets hurt he gets hurt. GonNa go. By joke really. Now, it'd be pretty fucking amazing. Okay so All you guys that are like complaining about my podcast and we're getting a Lotta. Love we're getting last got like hundreds likes one dislike whatever. But just so you know when doing podcast okay. I Gerald near Chartres at twelve thirty right? He has not responded or come. Then Don Frye says, okay. Yeah. I'll be forty five. He's not responded Greg Wilson was booked who forgot he had an audition and is babysitting right now? Okay. Day I almost bag keeping you on and we dog has dropped out of the podcast seventy nine. And then. I. Joined on my phone right when I joined my phone, my Wifi reconnects on back on my computer. Okay and I'm still pulling this together. Okay and I had a babysitter right now. And I got my Zola frosty show on it. Okay. But so. Just. So you guys know. So you're not like spoken podcast bundle up you try doing the podcast with fucking people that fucking don't show up one guy who does leave wearing a fucking suit. Okay. A guy who was five is and and kindergarten cop over here. All right. So you know what I'm dealing with. And I'm trying to go over fights right now to which the last one gate got mad because he was like you. Know what we're going to talk about. So I got up fucking early. Okay and posted everyone who's fighting in sent him a thing that way he's not ambush with I don't know on just just. So you know precinct that no problem for nobody else but you Jay, okay because you're. Appreciate the fact that a world class athlete. Okay. Parents and marine and bodyguard and somebody who sells I don't know. I don't know what you do a credit card companies to something and everything else you do. Slash Professional Gambler. All right. So I get it. All right. I get it. So. But I had always mushed Saddam because I know he didn't watch the fucking fights right and. Additional questions that he might know about. And he doesn't show up and all these questions for fucking Jaromir start about Kobe and everything else who by the way is driving back to Milwaukee from Vegas after getting corona virus missing fight. So socks, I will give him listen I. Fucking. Loved the Guy I love start is a really good dude and I feel for the Guy okay and I so I understand why he can't commit all right. So I get it but he didn't tell me he can come in but I get why what I be selfish to be like well, my podcast. He's dragging back to fucking Milwaukee. Buyers and making weight and weighing in. So I, I get A. I think. It does. Sun. Dried. Yeah like. That's addy. Realize when I. was John Joel Drive back with him or lose it was A. High by John Would. Yeah when He drove to I guess you don't WanNa fly with covert right? I. Mean you've got you gotta figure is that people aren't flying or I don't know what he's spiders canceled bright and again today edges out fighter ride with him I wouldn't fly. Be. Something I don't know because he didn't have ideas spiders. Yeah I don't know. I mean, these are all. I right. You're absolutely right I. Don't know I have no idea I mean. I. Would just fly from Milwaukee Tobago right but then you're like. You gotTA figure maybe you safer in the car. Maybe he has he wants to wait or something who know. But Yeah so Does. This spite next fight we'll talk about scares me. By the way, you got gay golombek grooming I don't fucking anybody else. Okay. Barbara Bitchy but just so you know what I'm going. To. Give you the best buck podcast for free by the way I'm sorry there were so many commercials. Okay. That was weaned dog putting all the commercials in there. No. No when we start getting a million views preps. Oh, then just see commercials like that. Trust me by the way the. Commercials are off a lot of people. By the way we're picking you against Vince Vince Michelle got very mad last week jake because weaned off crashes twits remote channel. And Almost killed him. was I thought Vince was like joking at first and then I saw the news actually serious and actually methanol is like Oh my God like gone until like the character like when full denial against accusations and he just kept getting. A. Lot of people have had like you're back I guess we'll have annoying towards people that listen to our show. All right. So Worried about don't worry. You'll be done by one eight more minutes for your wife. Is Chris, wideman, versus guy. because. Ben Has lost five out of his last six fights all by Tko. He killed a gas lum and it was almost ticket on that to. Them and almost had him out. I don't Think Gossiping June. Living whereas other guy meadow one, five out of six. He Heinisch Not Coming, and he had a draw against the Corey. Everyone's look how good the towards looking right now. By wideman I mean, he's the guy that no one knows one five and a six he's lost. And he? Would Have Chris. I can knock out again or get stopped. He shouldn't be fighting. No. It's that's never a question. Most fighters want to have that on that on its question with themselves when it's time to move on. I mean. You know why didn't always have an unbelievable career beating one of the greatest fall time but it's like. I I agree I would say if he cannot. Gain extraction momentum, and get over this this weekend could win. From now, the other side of the argument though because I'm like all right. Well, let's Let. Let's make the argument against yourself that well, he lost a dominant. Jockey. Mosse Romero and Rachael right right. So those. Are you are you comfortable being a? Here's the thing it's like it's like it's like Rhonda. It's like connor when you beat a when you become a champion or are you. One of the top two or three guys in the world. There's no more easy fight. You know what are you? What do you give Whiteman a guy on. There Series No. Not Going to happen I mean like you can't give a guy like especially with what they're paying look at the balance sheet they're paying. A shit load money, you can't give them. A guy who probably. Who should be on regional circuits I? Mean there's no easy fight to reality were in. It seemed like I had I had a few eventually. A couple of. Five three like. You're. GonNa face that same level of competition you're the rest of your career you know. I didn't expect that either it's like you're not gonNA go through fighting world champion and nobody young. I'm a white. Van Right, but instead of giving Wiedeman. MEDOFF. Arguably. Through. Wide minutes a contender contender. WHY NOT GIVE HIM Or somebody that's in that. Same category of losing last three to four. That's the name kind of that. You know like. Why not give them a name? That's not gonNA. Be a killer that knows heard of from Dagestan. It's that's. You know to me that's a matchmaking right there I I. I don't know how. I. Would Watch fighting your way whoever he fought but yet again. There fight now but then again, if he beats tim boats so what whereas if you beat this guy? Okay, I've beaten at Contender Guy A So. Yeah. There there is that I can see both ways I don't WanNa see Chris wanting to get hurt crime is a guy that like. I think he peaked a little bit. I. Think he peaked in the Sova fight he picked the machida fight and he has not been the same fighter. I didn't rock hold on it too. So I guess it'd be like. To had had had his number a little bit but I don't want US Chris a smart guy great guy you know. Emit a lot of money. Don. Fries year with his Harry. Out. Wearing A Ellen. Berger are you using this room other polyglot seeing Don frye right now? I can't see him John Yeah. Hold on maybe spotlight them okay. Okay can you see a now? Ken. Non Fries here does L. Burger. He's audio is not connected. It always takes Don. frye seventeen minutes for his to connect for some reason I've never seen anything like that So Jay has to go jake take care man. Thank you brother. Thank you. Thank you. You got everyone we. saw. Right Saddam's rise here. So gotta wait. For. Don Connect. The audio. Probably the best Internet of anyone we've ever had on this show. People wanted to start to go fund me account to get him a better computer now is actually a real thing really better audio. Yes. It's still up and now I talked about it I'm gonNA actually started Omaha. Madonna's wearing a bathrobe. He's got a cigar in he's got a white cowboy hat. he's he's the man you hear me down. Looks like a drug dealer from narcos like one of the main leaders of the narcos cartel or something like that. Don. Donahue here. Hello. This is the greatest pocket or know he's talking to somebody or if he's having a stroke. Donahue with us. Don Frye. Hello All. Right people well, I did have questions that. I did actually actually questions that I wanted to talk to him about Hold on maybe I can help them with with this this audio. A new schedule him for the start of episodes. So when he joins his reo connect by like midway through that hey. We're doing another podcast Wednesday you wanted to. Hear us. Alot. On. Married. Thanks getting breast. How are you doing man? Do. You're you're in your bathrobe. You're hanging out how was your weekend what you do this weekend? L.. I. Don't remember what I did this we in you know what my daughter's came by and. We just. goofed off. Had some fun. The rest of our member. Can you watch any of the fights? No. And in others any on. This invites this Saturday to watch. Good fight. Saturday. The black beast is fighting Derek Lewis Black Beast. Yeah, he's fighting this Guy Alexi. Alexi only. got a record of Sixty and eleven or something holiday nine and thirteen nine and thirteen He's got twenty wins by as Ezekiel. So. I guess that that pretty much tells a dairy lows will stay away from. Yeah have you ever had anybody tap your by Zico. Baby ill. Grabbed by the balls, we don't rotate. Close. Yeah. They were ever tapped. You ever have you ever been tapped into fight. US I'm sure he did sure. Did you know he had old knee and get beat up the injuries you're more beat up going into medicine, York coming out. So, it seems like the guy last week who Miss Weight by one Thing one thirty, five pounder and he missed by four pounds ended up winning. But what? Did they should have the mislead by five pounds four pounds. You're halfway up to the next week last today at that point, you say, you know what you lost by give the other guy, his win bonus. Well. That I'm fine. He's been training. You know so obviously. You know Dr Guy. Paying, give it to do. But if I love wins. The fight isn't shouldn't count against the other guys record. You know it seems like the guy who misses wait almost always wins. Some ridiculous percentage like eighty percent Yeah. It doesn't seem fair to the other guy who actually made the weight you know. It's up to the but it. Should be up to the other guy he iggy non. See. fifty percent of the guys purrs and not fight or. He could take seventy five percent of the guys person fight. I I think you're right now Kobe COVINGTON's a fighter. He was a you know I don't know if you watched loose Monterey I. He's a big trump supporter hughes trump's border. He's you know he's Sat Down Mechanics Owens, Donald trump junior. He sought became sort of like the poster boy for like you know the right and he was talking a lot of crap on his teammates. You Moss would all used to train together and they now they're enemies you talking about. He said, we'RE GONNA lose. Ended up. Getting. Kicked out of American top team. And start now, he's starting his own camp. In in Florida. Do. You think that's a good idea. You could still be done. What do you think about? Your teeth. He's his whole thing is it's freedom of speech. Why am I not allowed freedom of speech? If I'm Europe, see and and All your love freedom of speech but. If you bad mouth your teammates expected kicked off the team. I mean I know why the Okay State House ordered off the team also. Were you vote off team? Lost A mad. On. Las might match. Against stairs you which caused go team to lose. So they questioned my. realty. And the cigar smoking during practice bullshit. First of all I know is that close wasn't unit that cost the whole thing the whole team there are other guys lost you otherwise I wouldn't have been that close. You know. You, guys I mean. So he ended up when it went up losing the mass by one point or something like that. You're right but I'm not saying. That's why. The big money you know so to speak. In A. Were you doing the question? Your loyalty were you out girls partying like they wouldn't have liked this team if you lost mount. Russell, free issue before I had wrestled for issue. And then. You know. I think. You. Do So. So they they thought because you're on their team beforehand you were trying to ring it Reagan so that okay, that's That's bullshit. You would never do that. You would never do that. That's No You know what? A bunch of. Feelings getting hurt at the. College level. You know the question, the question. Your loyalty. But now okay, an now is bringing size tray with Koby. Now is bringing guys to train with. Do. You think that's GonNa work has it ever worked before where you have your own fight camp. Me Cetera was before I mean you assemble your own people year civil people were loyal to you. And Lytham. Aka. You can't go in there. beat up each other every every frigging day you know somebody's. Somebody's gotTa go easy. Lumps, your you know I mean, that's why hires sparring burners, fired burners, beatty. You know when they're I'm somebody's got a world title fight going on there. Still trying to kill the guy, it's stupid. You gotta be able to make to the fight I. You know you become before even. Get their healthy you gotta get to the fight up. But isn't there a danger of guy. But isn't there guys taking it easy on you and you're not getting better because of it. No no there's a certain way in the training I. Mean You know you're training for. US throughout the whole throughout the year you go hard. But when you're training for excite, you know. There comes. A four week period or they've got take the lumps they've got these. A. Certain degree. Guy If I go in there and if you fire getting ready for a fight and you're getting ready to fight Mike Tyson and I knock you out three or four times you know during the coarser training I'm not helping you benefiting you. I'm losing your jaw. You enter you for the play by right. Anybody ever try to get to you before fight. They were stupid as people might IMIRE WHO Who they were chased out you know we had stupid people come in, they would go relatively quick. Did you ever fuck them up like, Hey, man, what are you doing and then just not mouth. Shit burner. How remember it's been so long ago? You know it's. I haven't signed in a decade you know. Many You know when you get a fight. Tunnel digits you know. Get ready for a fight when my other guy saw the guy somebody. tweet into your advantage of advantages situation they got on, they chases as out. That's good coaches right there coaches. Now now could be good coach. Burners repair. Style is so now they have could be versus Gigi they have a date set. I guess could be wins they're talking about could be versus GSP. Now, who do you think wins versus gay? G.. And who did it? Wednesday wins Burst Esp. Off. In. Our. To be in the first fight in army cagey obvious Dan for gauging disease in American but. Common. Oil they butt heads sometimes. To be bought Bruce East bulletproof. So when it comes to him faint GSP, who's going to be a coin toss. What is it about guys in Dagestan? Like have you ever been over there? Now. I mean. Anything the ex-soviet yelling I mean those guys are tough. They grow up, toss you know Jesus and You know some fucking recovering warzone you know the whole thing. and. We got guys here bitch and Moan because their milk is war to know. New People. Walk, five months clean water. Yeah Yeah so they just. They wanted more at the top of the solid. It just it just means more right? Your dimmer either fighting. That's the way it was. You know for fighters back you know fifty years ago yet. They would fight their way out of the ghetto. Now. Are they do is yell racism and they're handed chip. Well we've fighters. Yelling racism, the handed check. Anybody liberal up in the ghetto you're wrong. Or? Spore. You'd at them. Pfizer we get ghetto. Now. Tough. People. They have. You have you mailed in your ballot for Joe Biden yet or no? Every morning every morning. I do my Joe Biden. White. House. Now I mean, do you think Biden is like I grant? Grabbed my Joe Biden ballot and a smear it. Who Do you better memory you are Joe Biden. Shit that's scary on right they're. Talking about. Now. Torah MMA in Brazil they, they signed bigfoot Silva. To fight their promotion bigfoot job as the knocked out eight of his last nine fights and they got him they got him and they got burr route. They got Paul Harris who doesn't let go of Angola. And they got barral. Number Ow, I mean do you think bigfoot Silva at this point should be fighting still on That's the question a little scary situation they lose. Eighty last night may not get out now things. Put. I mean Gary I like Gary Goodridge but he fought way more than he should`ve and. Any that obviously. Some serious mental problems and and which is horrible, but we should learn from that. I feel like we're not learning for are. Getting guys like bigfoot Silva out there. And other guys like that. You know it's I understand his name. He's a draw. People are GonNa Watch it because of him but at what expense Are, they gonNA do steroids because in Brazil? That's a huge factor especially for big old old fighter and we know when they started to test for TRT TRT because he has gigantism or whatever he is. So maybe if it is pump his head full of steroids and whatever em fights advise not in Brazil, it's it's in Miami Oh. Then if they're drug testing him, then he probably shouldn't fight. You know what I'm saying that. Little spoke Ula right look you the now quickly becoming over Brazil Miami. Now, a lot of Cubans are occupants are pro trump Gaza Hector Lombard, other guys because they know how bad socialism was and they fear that's. going. They have common sense. They know what? What the Hell is all about these idiots nowadays, you know they've been lied to the grown up to the school system, they don't have a clue. Yeah I. Mean A lot. I hate to say it but I mean, it does seem like people that want socialism. It's like. Well, you know there could be some policies that are socialized. You don't want socialism. Coming come on. So a guy from WHO trains where you're you're at this week Michael Bed Henderson's fighting Michael Chandler unbalanced for. Are you gonNa Watch his. Bill Tours never been. A Salvator for Denver to me. Reasons to give them. Money. Is On television right? Across Thing. Yeah Yeah I mean look there's no reason why you should not be calling fights. You are you are the funniest and best announcer out there I think you and pat military. EMBOSS Rootin- would be like one of my Dream Team's especially you. Did you did you watch millages kickboxing fight Tuxedo? were. It was it was an Iowa. What happened he lost to Michael Nine and kickboxing, but it was pretty close. So. Wow. See Much Michael Non pets what fifty five now. Five and That probably is first kick boxing that. Yeah Pass had a tough time it got to you is. The second one easily but he's he's doing better he's doing. All right. I like Pat shot up the PAT MILICEVIC. We were you friends at military. No No. Don't say anything bad about guy but. I mean they got over nowadays his precipitated by be drafted. Absolutely now, he tells the story that he actually wants chase tank Abbott out of a nightclub at an after party tank didn't WanNA fight him. Who Do they have one that flight tank Abbott or Pat Millage. Think that militants in harming tank Gavin get more goddamn excuses for news and fights. The Dana Way does have ferraris. So yes you think, pat. Power, to taking them even though there's a kind of way difference. A glitch rebel that were disposed of me quick. All right. There we go. You heard it here is. It. Pat Militants fucked up tank Abbott back in the day a now if I if brock would afford Josh Barnett in that Dream match-up who would have won. Look Year we Johnson. We weren't they supposed to fight affliction resolving like back in the back of that affliction days. Gone with, Josh to justice you know Ostra steamrolling rolling back. Up. Own. And broad can really got a seat with the game yet you're no. Now, it's a different story. Direction. Colby Covington supposedly assigned on fight tyron. Woodley. Good fight there I obviously. Kobe, the cardio and how he looked lately Kobe with he's got the advantage in power. And striking wrestling I'd say they're both. All Americans even on the ground I don't know. On the Who Do you think's despite a don FRY. Koby Covington. Not just because I'm white white lives matter you know I'm GonNa. Go on. He's a much better athlete at this point know. Unflinching. Woodley's been knocked to timeshare Leeann doesn't. He's lost. He hasn't been knocked out, but he's his late. He's lost two out of his last three and look black lives. Matter lives matter. Everyone. All. All everyone loves everybody black white everybody everybody's life matters so. Who is not getting to this? This after. All right and finally. So Mike Perry issued an apology. I know last out he was going to be a father. And you know. So he got into a bar fight he beat up five bar. He said the N. Word a couple times. He's a little out of control good fighter, great great fighter but he says I want to be a better role model. For my family. For my unborn son, my queen whose girlfriend trainer and for myself so I can learn the respect I deserve earn. To my sponsors on my bosses that you have I want to apologize for how actions have impacted our relationships. I will be better all around. Have, you ever had to make that kind of apology down. Sure. Sure, AB I don't remember. What it? What did you? What did you do? I did a lot of drinking during the heyday circa. Goes along with drake and shit. You can't. These I mean short of killing somebody you can hold everything they do against them wanted to drink and against him. Well, come on I mean, yeah. Somebody's drink at the responsible for how they act. Even you can't use drunk as an excuse to applicant maniac beat people up at bars. Run. The GODDAMN flight. I would I would. I guess by Perry. There have have no I have no idea My Perry seems like a pretty rude if you don't faulk with him across him. But alcohol is probably not as friend. Dot. Thing Conor McGregor some guy mouse off says I is whiskey Shit and he doesn't expect get popped. It amounts come on you say my date you dropped on your ass. Yes and no. But at the same time, every time supposed says something to you like I. Hurt you go to punch somebody was saying your whiskey Shit. Your love is, is it worth it? Is it? Is it worth like all the fucking bullshit you have to deal with afterwards Way You just said words don't hurt you but not, but manigault your San. The Guy Sitting instead as you know words. So which one is it words earnings report words can hurt you. Okay. But somebody saying look someone's has other about my daughter. Like out of line. Yeah. You're GONNA get popped. Okay. You'RE GONNA get fucked with back. Somebody says something like that somebody says I somebody says your whiskey sucks. Punch Phase I mean come on are aren't there levels of this. Will Order Vice City, your your comedy routine sucks. Good I. Get it told. I'm not. I'm not again go find somebody that face doing that especially if I'm the best fighter in the world that that's As much as that sucks to hear. You can't you can't. That you're living, right? Yeah. But the West. Opinions of my comedy routine I mean. I mean don somebody says to you. Dan You know. You're fighting sucks are gonNA punishment phase of the bar come on. which fight they're talking about You GotTa get used. Violence is not the answer. Especially, some fucking idiot Barr says nothing as much as it sucks to punch the person, you do have responsibility to to not hurt people physically you know shit response. To keep their mouth shut. If, why am I gonNA mess with a loaded gun why am I gonNA mess with a loaded gun and morons demoines and you know what a punch in the face will will teach them a lesson. But at the expense of you getting losing your job getting kicked out of the UFC being sued fucking having all this bullshit happen to you like is it is it worth it is it is it worth it? Is it worth going to jail for? That's why. The country is in such shit. All disease it is because we are not allowed to not people in ass with a mouthful. People got knocked on her ass more. It would behave themselves and I I agree I agree with that. But at the same time you have to go is the juice worth the squeeze is this worth it? Okay and the answer is almost. Always know. Unfortunately Okay The country. Okay actually going down, right. So you punching somebody to bar is not going to help the country. There are terrorists one person. I. Just. Apologizing wasn't as the US. All the whole they were like have you ever felt bad about and you said, yes, and now you're completely defending. Behavior. So what's going on? Yes. I said I'm sure I have. Weaned, what are your thoughts on this? We'll get Mike Perry's case of versus Conor McGregor I always an advocate for legal action. Mike Perry. What he did I? Think he was in the legal right? Because the other old man even though he's an old man, he did charge him and push him and once that happens you have the legal right to defend yourself or people there. I don't know I think this is I just saw the old man come charge item, and then he just might period I gave them a right hook. I. Don't think you should of fucking knock old man out considering his age and probably health maybe tackle more just you know do whatever you can to defend yourself. You should not knock them out though maybe you should teach them a lesson he. Well he's supposed to do cherry red tape around with you all the time. Toro Toro. Decide. I don't know Georgia do that S. But with with McGregor. Acting on his ass. He probably did deserve to get knocked on his ass but. When you're a public figure like Mike Perry, you might want to. Consider alternate way of putting it out like that. Maybe you know kick him in the nuts or some. You're supposed to, go belly. You're supposed to rollover belly up for every asshole out there we want to feel good about themselves and mouth off to you. Now, maybe nobody's nobody's saying that but as far as McGregor goes, we know I don't think McGregor was in the right to punch him I think there was probably a better way to resolve it just you know. I think I don't know because I think that was that was an island by I. Don't I listen I read in Ireland Ireland laws you know maybe that's legal in Ireland own. Guy. Shot a Whiskey driven claiming notes. I don't know. Maybe, don't punch an old man not a you know if he's not attacking you. Guys, are. Like. Okay. You're alcohol sucks. Dick move guys shit head. But to go out there and crack the guy in the face like that. That's the answer. Don Anytime soon. That like it's kind of addict to say, you can go crack them in the face. I believe so. So well, listen I mean Don Frye your world doggy lot safer. People have more respect and. Unfortunately. That's not the case right now you know and. Somebody says Adam your comedy socks and I go punching the face and then they sue me and it cost me fifty thousand dollars are all is that money that could've went to my kid now I gotTa fucking pay this lawyer because somebody had cracked the face that's a it's a it's a bonehead move and It's not the the. Bigger picture is the wrong thing to do. And you look at the bigger picture sometimes. What? Why. Is it the wrong thing to do because this this I saw you know. that. At a criminal charge against me I may lose my job. It's a coaching wrestling and I got us the money that could went to my kid and my wife to some fucking. Lawyer to defend his bullshit so. All, that is A. So, you're supposed to years. Ago. Tuck your deck between your legs ago slink off every time. Somebody says something to you. Unfortunately, yes. Not every time but the depending on what they say there's all wrong. That's what's always our country. That's what's wrong with our country. Always. INIT-. Limit. We let's say. You can't say anything but somebody's saying your comedy socks or your alcohol sucks. You got those gotTa. You GotTa roll off thing I mean does does limit I mean somebody's somebody's somebody's father if all like someone that my dad died and somebody said something ship Dad's next fucking day. I probably would punch guidance days like there's certain things where you're going to. Okay fine that person is fucking punch. Somebody saying you're alcohol sucks when you just made nine hundred million dollars on your fucking alcohol and come on the that's GonNa. Get You Punch in the face like that. That's that's the that's the tipping point. What are we talking about? So. When do you stop when you say you're right may alcohol is bad. Let me show you my I received my sales receipts. I made nine. Hundred, he can't. Rules of this game and maybe you can. And you lose your by. A you after Tuck, you Dick Between Leagues and he everybody shit for your life not everybody should the rest of my life. Okay. But yeah, like of course, there's times where like. You you. You can't just do what you want all the time even if even if you think you're justified. I can't maybe you can. We can you? Know but maybe maybe you can teach them a lesson as make sure no cameras around makes you can't get caught and beat them until they're unconsciously can't remember anything. You know that's a big problem in the world. Today's everything is on camera all these incidents that we're talking about we're off camera. So just find a way to beat the shit out of this guy with no one seeing it no-one watching it. No, there's no video evidence. Donate the costume on fucking hop out of the woods. If that's what it takes. I mean don how many street fights you beat us. beat the hell out of the guy, and then offer everybody a thousand dollars to delete what they have on there. I. Mean. You'll save more money. Right. There you go. Yeah. There's fifty people, Fifty people. That's only fifty thousand dollars. So you know he'd say just. SORTA money. Is Less than that May. Oh Yeah, I think you need a book called life lessons with Donald Fry I honestly think that like it'd be taught. HOW TO DEAL How to be a real man and twenty twenty. I didn't. That's what the world needs right now. For Real. Honestly, yeah I think so. I you know what happened here in Tucson. Is some white guy on the side of Blm walked up and punched a black COP. So stupid now is that the dumbest you? Yes that. was going on this what's going into the society? I don't think that's the norm. But I think that that guy's an idiot and should be arrested and hopefully does a lot of time. And also what an idiot. I mean you can't like black lives matter as long as they agree with me like, no they all matter. That seems to be s seems to be. You know their their Modem Larry Moe you know A. Lot of people just like they only care about people who agree with them. It's like what the whole point of America is that we have free speech freedom of ideas all to express how are you can't just cut off someone's opinion because don't agree with you. That's not the whole point that this is like. It's beyond it's beyond me why people think that way Hopefully, it'll change well, listen Dombi. Grant. They'd ever. s when you know what I agree I'd say. I would say a majority of fighters people out there. People have on their ass I wanted their trump supporters but they're definitely like not for can't. Very light, very polite and they're not societies. And they're also are opening to item on. I'm sorry interrupt. Our plight yeah. Hundred percent almost all of them almost all of them. That they've been. Listen Don. It's always an honor to have you on You are the best. We're not worthy. We dog gray seeing you take the rest of the League is. Horrible. I'm. John.

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Natan Levy, Giga Chikadze, and Vince Murdock | MMA Roasted #576

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Natan Levy, Giga Chikadze, and Vince Murdock | MMA Roasted #576

"So I do I love you. Greeting married, we were abused, you know from time to time once again for your favorite mixed martial arts podcast recording out of Los Angeles, California off their mom with Hunter that guy off. And they Rose to podcasts me Adam Hunter. I'm here with my man win dog, Michelle. No politics today none. Okay, I don't start it off. I want to talk about fights. We are talking about fighting. No Hector Lombard was on on last Tuesday. You missed the Shang. It was it was quite the show. I am laughing all day cuz of the show, he says he's now a sheep and he started and he's learning how to speak sheep. But that's a whole other. Anyway, there were some great fights last name Bellator has some great advice. I had to text Shang and be like, hey, man, watch the fights. You were like what channel they swear it's it's all because I don't give you two but a lot of times I'm like dead. You can't fucking Bellator. They're not advertising and there's no promo. Like it's doing the worst was the x f c which was on the night before on NBC Sports who did a literature. No promotion. Our man one though, Bobby Nash Knox as okay. Yeah. Yeah. I swear I wouldn't if I wondered, you know, I was going to watch it if I could but but Mom and Dad's fight and Andre second on his for a bunch, of course, you guys are winning their fights was cool Bellator last night. All right, let's talk about the pit bull Brothers. There's a different level right now. I mean we're talking about guys who ran through Michael Chandler I get confused on which one is which I'm not going to like that. Why what has the ethernet their names are off by like one letter? Yeah, and they look a lot of like, but they're amazing Fighters. He made that fight look like off. I'm just going to depart against the cabal is a good fighter two, very good fighter. He ran through him. So shout out to those guys because and and it's also my friend Eric who's like they're wrestling podcast. What's your famous though? I want you to know how I was watching. Dan was you said and I had to spend his comic Adam Hunter helped me with some of my wrestling. I'm like, oh, yeah. I know too bad. It was it was the match against? Yes. I'll wrestle probably you got I watched the whole thing where GSP and we're talking and when I when they said that I went off that was really cool. Very cool birthday party on his interview with BTS on a show talked about how when he was training for GSP. He had to find wrestlers and it was hard to find a guy to do everything cuz nobody could ever first I'm going to GSP does anyway, like he's a one-of-a-kind, you know, so he had to find a wrestling coach like he gets to coach a striking coach trying to piece it all together. I mean that was like eight years ago. I think probably would be easier now but still but I'll tell you one of the Bellator fights that pissed me off was Logan storley cuz they were all on this guy am Subs dick like the whole time talking about the first round how he was winning and I'm like the other guy took nine shots. Yeah, you only completed three of them. He was pressing forward. I had a morning the first frown and the third round and people were saying Amazon one, but maybe cuz Logan's a buddy of mine and and and yada yada, but I thought he won that fight. I only absolutely one of you absolutely wanted but I think it was I think it's also worth trying who they want to push and because it was so much of that it was so obvious even in the way they were in the house again, I'm like who you lost the first one it's a simple as that like if you lost and some people can't really grip with laws know it was crazy. So but Logan actually I thought he actually showed that he's going to be an amazing fighter. He is an amazing fire now the guy Amazon is off. An amazing fighter. I think he was actually surprised he got taken down almost choked out almost on the 3rd, but a lot of things built her has two differently. Number one. No more interviews in between fights with fighters who are not in the company. Okay. I mean Joe Schilling got like released a couple of weeks ago or left caveman rickels is doing bare knuckle boxing on a second fight already terrorists is doing comedy and a comedy club and he's with he's retired six times and they're talking like I don't like do they don't have an editor that you just take out that a part. I mean cuz all you know is reminding me that you go down in the organization any more like I wouldn't be thinking about just like a Monday. It's just disrespectful to the people that actually still fighting for them. I think it's disrespectful. Yep, and they and they put it and they put the interviews on before they announce the winner. So you watch 3 minutes about like 15 minutes of a fight. It's going through better and then you got to hear about Joe Schilling talk about his favorite food. Was like or how we took meeting in the third grade or or his Halloween costume wasn't he was twelve like am I watching right now? Like I like mangoes. What about what what were you talking you for but you know what else the prelims were very good. Yeah. Yes the prelim like the prelims. I'm not going to go piss up a UFC bands the pretty little better to some prelims. I've seen on at UFC Porsche or well depends. I mean, you know, sometimes Styles make fights and a lot of time but a lot of times in Bellator they match up guys that are not that equals a guy gets knocked the fuck out like the first three guys gets brutally knocked out like that was the first whatever scene but yeah because they put a guy who was ten and O versus a guy they found in the in like the bathroom. How are you doing? I'm just, you know watching my hands you want to come fight. All right. I really like how the Bellator prelims are on YouTube. I think that's a great idea. I think it might even be better if they had their main cards on YouTube as well and do something like how fights circus does like home. If you donate to like the live chat, they'll put your name up on the live broadcast and say I'll give you a shout. I think that would be a lot better cuz they want to have known people donating on on Bellator cards. I think that's kind of like I understand what you're saying, but it's like we're not going to have patreon for Fighters during fight. But at least we'll keep that YouTube base audience. I mean how many people watching the YouTube prelims are actually switching over to see them as Sports. You know what I'm saying? You know, I think you're right. I'll tell you who look great was Aaron Pico because he was a guy that that Bellator had no idea how to manage him. They had a kid that was in high school. That was the best wrestler in high school never went to college first fighting for the Madison Square Garden against the guy that's eleven and seven and he gets knocked out and then he gets knocked out as like sort of like three years. For six fights people are like, okay. This guy's over mismanaged, but he went to Greg Jackson jackson-winkeljohn are great at figuring out how to take you guys talent and make it work for them right now. He's looking amazing. I mean, he's finally putting wrestling and striking together versus I'm going to wrestle and I'm going to strike and I'll tell you also for a guy that's like this is a big Faith guy and a big, you know, a Christian guy when he knocked the guy had he was screaming this guy's face. I'm like what the fuck is happening in Albuquerque where people go there as like Christians and come out in like Grand Theft Auto and Truck. I know it's like one minute. He's praying for the guy the next Monday. He's fucking a hooker in a pan you have like what is going on? I'll tell you I kind of felt bad for by the way Immanuel Sanchez look great in his office, right but was Connery Gracie who's the son of you know what? I just I was so disappointed. Well instead of hands of hoyce, Gracie. And he's a nephew of henzo Gracie. So but I was thinking about like how many times in Combat Sports I don't care about in basketball baseball that makes little differently. I Ken Griffey Senior figure Bobby bonds bail bonds, but in fighting it just seems like the kids are not as good as the parent and fighting. Well, he's good. Don't don't get it twisted. He's good. He's just he has such a high bucking. Yeah I'm saying is that I think a lot of times you have the parent had to go through so much more adversity struggle toughness and I was thinking about okay Hector Camacho his his kid was a good boxer but never achieved that Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. I mean Chavez senior was like and then yeah, but yeah, but his son was home eating fruit loops and getting the half right Sugar Shane Mosley. His son is a good boxer, but he's not Shane Mosley Marvis Frazier member Marvel at his birth. His dad was Joe Frazier the announced they going to pay there are always some cases where the kid is better Floyd Mayweather was better than senior who was also a great boxer and real world champion, but what not Floyd Mayweather and then the guy Antonio McGee's Junior might be better than determined give senior back then you know, so there are cases where the situation is a little different but it does seem like, you know Sinbad used to say your funniest when you're riding the bus ready baby being born into the Gracie family where you don't have to fight on, you know, you know on concrete behind the behind the fucking Subway sandwich. Sorry, you're trading in like favelas in Brazil. Yes, and my challenging the next town over to the winner-take-all. I mean that seems like those guys came from a different area hour-and-a-half grappling match just like exactly it's like what time is it fucking it's the next day off. I remember him. So tell me one of his fights. He got stabbed during the fight that his back was against the cage and his opponents cornered stabbed him and he still ended up winning a fight. Right? I mean they were there were there were tougher but I don't think he's bad. I don't think he's bad at all. I just I think that because of his name is going to bring back showing but it's just they gotta give him time to just you know, who he wants to be and they're they're putting all this on him. So when I was watching I was thinking they're they're saying all these expectations that he's just not ready for Thursday. Let him let him grow into it. Just like some people have to be with certain camps. Some people have to give some time. Some people have you look at Mazda they all had to go away and be on a reality show to become a killer when he was a kid, but but I'm saying I mean, you know what? I mean, he pretty sure you can be great and I'm sure one day he could be really good. I just seems like even Kimbo Slice Junior like who's a good dog? Fighter but Kimba was literally fighting in backyards. I mean he was for free and it seems like sometimes when you're born with certain, you know certain place and luxuries that your father didn't have. It just seems like those guys might be a little cast out. You are bad mm you my two-year-old a drop her off three miles. I may run home. Okay, I throw okay. I'm raising a champion. Yeah. Well I get Ronda Rousey's mom used to put her in our Mubarak when she was sleeping and then wake her up and goes always be ready, You know, that's I mean you really going to raise a champion or a you know, serial killer but I'll give you some PTSD right? They're turning into a light sleeper. Honestly. I think that was the only I was sitting there going I'm disappointed in the fact that he's just like give him time but you know what Bellator does though people to the wolves? Bellator has attempted to help people to the Wolves a lot of times. They'll throw a guy. Oh, yeah, I got two fights. Yeah, I'm fifteen in Brook it will or or they won't they won't but ye or like Dillon danis or some of these other guys that they just seem to Jack Haggerty Jack Swagger. They just seem to be kind of like feeding them along either they decide to throw you against the champion or they decide to like slowly move your it's like there's no middle ground, but our UFC UFC definitely I've seen them so people in with Killers like well, it seems like the gong to be in the UFC's they don't they don't have people that are to know in the UFC. They don't have I mean, I mean Mike Jackson CM Punk me the exactly so you can't get I mean that was that was the worst hit in the world. I'm not against and plug trying to become the best or whatever, but he didn't have a fucking chance in hell hand because you don't do it on that stage because other sports wouldn't allow it no matter how long Followers you have they're not letting Oprah play for the Lakers, you know, so I don't I don't know. I don't know. They're not they're not letting like Manny Pacquiao is able to like make a Filipino basketball team in the Philippines, you know, like they put them on and like whatever but he's not they're not doing that in the NBA and they're not putting on whoever on like ebook even Major League Baseball. I mean, what's his name that that football player Tim Tebow tried out for the Mets. He still invite me made the Mets. He's still in the minor leagues. They put him in like AAA. Even Michael did Michael Jordan ever actually make it to know he he he was he was he was there but he was it was it wasn't good at all. I mean Jordan ever actually get like a real game today, or did they ever make it yet. He actually made it past the AAA. Did he ever actually I believe you did I believe he did but know my main thing is with fighting. I think you could never tell there might be you might have find a killer but you know, but you know was a killer and he's a killer and then you go. Oh shit, you gotta kill her in her. So, you know, you know the killers right on cue a job Matan Levy, who is 6 so from Israel, they call him. Yes. This dude is unbelievable the column Jew Claude Van Damme or I fall on that page. Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Yes, how are you man? Congrats on your big win on the contender Tuesday night you officially got a contract. Congratulations man. That's right. Thank you, man. You you did your thing. I thought at first I thought you had taken him out with the kick, but then you you just said fuck that. Let's go to the ground. Let's go and check great. Great. And now you got a contract good should thank you very much. Yeah. Yeah pretty exciting stuff. You know, I've been here for a while in the US. I came here to get this contract and not only but I want to do more, you know, I want to do something big in the sport. I want to get in the rankings. I want to for me that you've sees like the first step. And it's a huge step and I'm happy to have made. It. It was awesome that if I go exactly how you want it to go really like I have too much like the way I wanted to go. I just wanted to get in there and just like go be free, you know, just throw everything off and see what lands did I was so I was going crazy cuz I'll actually wearing your shirt cuz you actually got me a you gave me a Jiu-Jitsu shirt. Yeah, and I was wearing it off the flight. I was I was cheering up my house. I was going crazy but the fight before that. Oh my God, you scared the fuck out of me you want this guy in the LFA been how long ago and you're kicking his ass do all the stuff then you got caught and this guy counted you the whole round. I'm like no stop the fight. Stop the fight stopped to fight and then I don't stop the song. Then you came back and you fucking I never saw anything. I mean you have a heart of 10,000 men and you can't have them that fight Bow-Wow. Were you tested the Adam? You said stop the fighting. He was probably thinking no don't stop the fight. I just didn't want to get killed. How long like what was that like You know, like I don't really remember much of that around but I remember I was having a good time. You know, we were kind of going back and forth and I thought like the fights like opening up, you know, things are getting more heated. But at some point I was kind of flashing in and out month and I realize that was like the fighters getting like I'm looking for the word but the fighters getting you know, it's getting in the intensity is going up but it's not going up against me. I realized like I mean deep shit. It's not as bad as Sports as I'm as I think it is. I think I'm getting a speed over here. Yeah, and I really I was like at some point I was like being sprawled over. Yeah, and I looked at the ground and I saw there was some blood And I was like shit, that's my blog. I need to get up. Like I need to change what's happening right now. I realized like that that I've been flashing in and out and I realized that I've been getting my ass beat off and then it started working to to get back up and inside back what you did man. That's what I always tell you sharing. Is that some of these Fighters even that that even the outer guide chamiya. I thought we see him be the hammer. We've never seen be the nail. We don't know if he can come back and the time man I've never that was the best comeback I've ever seen God. Thank you in my life. It was like a fucking Rocky movie so I couldn't believe it and you you were you had an arm-triangle it look like didn't even you were Stewart half asleep like even know where you are. But you done it so many times that you're able to pull off your sleep and I man, I was so impressed man that I wanted to ask a quick question when you're at home. Pointed you come back. What do you learn from that because that like after that other than you know, you got hard but when you learn you go, you know, what now? I know what to do next time if it happens how to turn it off. Yeah. I think a big thing is just staying cool. Like the fact that I realized I was losing. It doesn't mean I'm going to you know, start swimming and get hit even more and get even more tired and stuff like that and for me, you know, like like you guys said, you know, it's being battle tested. I came to this sport like to be the best and I know there is no shortcuts and you gotta every experience you get makes you stronger and just knowing, you know, if you get hooked with like one punch your knocked out. It happens. There's not really much you can do about it. But when you you are still in it and you're getting wrapped all over the place, that's kind of like the shittiest the situation to be in because you have to fight back. You're not out like being out with this kind of like a gift. So when you're not out and you're almost out you gotta fight back from really like from from deep water. And and that's something that I wanted to go through. I never wanted to like fight tomato cans until I get to see if C or something like that. I wanted to get tested in every fight. That's why I fought another fake as it's the the account over there is crazy and I knew it was all going to add up and you know, bear some fruit and I think that was what we saw on the Tuesday. It was awesome. Now you you're born Israel you grow up in France know I was in France grew up in Israel. Oh you're born in France wage. Oh parent your parents move to Israel. Yeah, that's what happened with Wayne Wayne was born in Yeah, couple things now. You're a black belt in kung fu and karate. Do you also did you get the new crowd Maga? I did some little bit now is that legit? Cuz I took a couple classes and they were teaching everyone to kick people in like the balls and like grab their throats. And like I said not chocolate chip. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. They are they are they are good point. I don't know if it means like you good without knowing how to wrestle and how to box and all those things. I think those are mentors. Yeah, but a good kick to the ground Save Somebody. It's a good point good point. Now, my dad always told me that Israeli women are the craziest in bed because they're surrounded by 7,000 countries that want to blown off the map. So really there The Fearless I I've actually accepted a couple. I'm sure back in the day before you were married. You were just like wage. You know the Hebrew hammer, can you can you verify this? Unfortunately, I can't comment since my wife is in the Next Room wage now. Okay, that's a very nice more blink twice blink twice if the answer is yes, let's see. That's great strategy, you know. Now are you the only Israeli fighter in the UFC? Yeah, I'm the third ever Israeli of C fiber and the only one right now. So it was it was a life. The guy who caught it was known right? No. No, I'd lot and then the other guy that like get used to get killed by Mark Coleman, right the guy back in the day was acting like when it was bare-knuckle and yeah, God was like it wasn't really MMA like we know it but it was the you have seen. Yeah that guy I loved that guy but he always lost his name was like, yeah, the worst luck ever is first and fights were Mark Coleman and Mark are ya thoughts went against the name was like in his name was like couldn't have been more Jewish. It was like Modi herschenfeld or something or exchange. Yeah a horse teens and I was like, yeah, we got we got a Jew it's just get murdered. So so you might be the first is really going to get like all win though. No, I've got two wins or no. Got two engine. You'll see. Yeah, okay and is a good friend of mine helped me a lot, you know is a great time a fire obviously and amazing grass and we treat know I love that guy. He's he's a really good dude. Yeah, very very limited. And you know, I'm looking forward to make like a big big waves in the UFC. Well, you said you looked awesome and in the the contender fight just absolutely awesome. I mean, I like it was funny my my son and my son were watching it and one of your kicks he turned around go fuc was that it was literally like it was so loud was like And then after that it was just basically you had him on the ground, which is murdered. Do you think maybe you should play up like the whole Israeli angle though, like you come in with like a menorah and like you just like a like a knock knock the guy out and you'd like spin a dreidel on his head like you don't think as a rabbi in your corner. There's a rib-eye in the corner. There's like a multi Memorial with you. He's getting a Brisk like gosh, you know, I think I think that'd be too much the flag is I think it's you know subtle enough still making a statement. Yeah. How long have you have your wife complained? Like we have to go can we go now just like let's say you can just like no you don't think you know, nobody likes these ideas. Why do you why do you fight? You had a nice State upon them? What are you doing? Yeah have your parent this is what we paid for med school for like just have this Trucking yelling at you. Like I know. All right fine, but I do I like the phone number. Through you you kind of like you wanted to go through the fire. You want to go through some tough people so you can really see where you're at. Like a lot of times. I see people say it's gonna be the easiest fight possible. You're like no, let's go against who could really test me. That was some good shit that you have that mentality. So who who are you calling out? Next Hamas comes up often but nice really like I just you know, I had this fight at one-sixty and I felt great like the opponent was kind of huge. Yeah. I got kind of kicked his ass. So I think I'm feeling good and I'm going to stay at fifty-five and I don't really know what the landscape of the division is with people are on ranging but I felt really good. I didn't feel like I think the other fight the prior fight we talked about earlier. And my defense was lacking, but I just think also I shouldn't have gotten dropped so easily, you know, and in this fight, I felt like I could absorb the same way better hit way harder. Didn't get tired, like I got tired. Obviously, it's a v but I wasn't like guessing or anything right? So I think I'm staying 55 nice. The last time you came to my show you would like six kids from Israel with you like a nap opted. They're all fighters. Yeah. Everybody says them their mama, I guess, you know, that was awesome, but you did your inspiration and you're a nice guy. You can fight you got you're married right you do you have your kids yet or no? No not to get some cats you have you have cats suck your vagina. Will you're kicking ass, man. So keep up the great work. Thank you so much, and thanks for coming on and I want I want more shirts. That sure was awesome. Sounds good. I will thanks. I appreciate it man. Thanks very much. Appreciate it. Good fighter man. Spider a nice guy man. Yeah, but man, I'm telling you know, when watching that we watched it on me and my son. I was like that motherfucker if he stays on track it's going to be a problem. So we got here we go. Giga gigabyte. You say you got you got you. All right. It's a tough one. Chica. Mary is yeah, man, the myth the legend like a 750Li streak just murdering people and you know what? I've been hearing about this guy for years Jake Ellenberger used to tell me how great I was and I was like, he's like Judas gave this guy this guy this guy and it's so many times you hear about guys the gym and then you never actually see them actually kick ass. You just like they become like Legend of folk folk Heroes. Snorting cocaine wage. Okay. So what's going on that how are you? I'm great. And I'm great. Thanks for helping me my friends. Yeah, I heard about you for a long time ago as well Jake from Jake and from many many other athletes. I'm glad to be in your show now. Thanks, man. Well congrats man and you know you are you come a long way. I would realize how good you were kickboxing Your Glory kickboxer. You were 38 and 6 is a kickboxer. Now, you've won six fights in a row. How hard was it to make the transition would kick boxing MMA. Definitely it was hard cuz I was kind of try to try to to to work on two different things same time. I moved from Netherlands and I was not here a big name or something and I had to I had to do my kick boxing career so I could get paid for the beginning with something, you know, and I was finding the same time a high-level kickboxing and I was making my way in MMA and it was kind of a bit hard cuz I'm not one guy off. I'm here with my two kids and wife and family, you know, so I was really working my ass off very hard. But finally it's game of yeah, man, it is definitely paying off a last fight look like you you got a one point you just said, all right. I want the part to be over your like I'm done. I'm ready and then you just like turn it on them. Was that like were you planning to them a little bit, you know, like just trying to fill them out and you're like, all right. I see what I want to see it's over. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. That's what I honestly how I was explained expect begin to fight go also, I mean, I wanted to test myself against full wrestler, which was exactly my opponent how it was his background like a college wrestling or some kind of wrestling. He was state champion multiple times and stuff and I wanted to see how I'm going to look against 1:45 for wrestler cuz all my teammates here, I have most of them when they challenge my myself in wrestling. They are heavier than me, you know, of course, I have a couple of guys lighter than may also some great guys great of training Partners, but I I had a little bit hard time against heavier guys, you know guys who are strong for like ten twenty pounds over wage. Me and I wanted to see how I'm going to look again real 145 per maybe he's not even still real 1:45 or 2 because he's so short my opponent. You know, he was really good. Yeah, I know but you know I try to be as professional as I can I cut this one. I cut a lot of weight and next day. I'm kind of giant for my division. But from what organization Gladiator Challenge now these guys you thought it looked like they were was this part of their punishment by the state to fight you off to rescue and then they were like, you know what you could take ten years or six years and fight this guide cuz it looked like this was some kind of corporate weird third world country punishment. Will you just be to share these guys, you know, even even I was a big name in kickboxing and stuff I know off. What steps I had to go, you know, some people just jump in from kickboxing in MMA. Like we know the Coca sake and not only him like many many other athletes, you know, what they are missing the steps. That's what I did too. Honestly. I didn't like I moved I signed a World Series of fighting without record like zero zero. I never fought them to make a straight down through the show and bedtime the show was great. Like I fought in 155 if you just engaged it was a champion at the moment, you know, and I thought result experience some wrestler guy off. He didn't make the wait. He came like heavy he took me down and just keep me through around and after this I realized that you know what I had to change something, you know, yeah, I'm fighting in glory and stuff. But I know two years fighting with smaller organizations so I can pick up the experience build up. My record see like feel myself comfortable Inside the Cage that is then go from there. And that's what exactly I did not make sense. That makes sense. Now, you're supposed to play Bruce Leroy and then you got covid-19. I don't know like it's is no joke definitely for some people. You know, how can I say people dying with this and such a bad situation in the world, but in my case was a little did, you know, like I was training I was in one of my best shape of my life. I felt great and suddenly you actually tested me and I was going to go in Vegas and then after class and says that I have going I did not expect that cuz I thought super well, you know, usually when you cut away it's kind of you dry a little dehydrated not you know, like you want to do you want to eat more you want to drink somewhere? That's exactly how I was feeling but when I say told me that all you got copied after a couple of days, I kind of looked to my boss and see what what's what's going on and I felt a little bit Little bit losing smell a little bit losing taste but nothing crazy. Maybe I had different type of coffee because nobody has a lot of the fighters is the same thing that they're telling us off me. I think I've had covid-19. But that's a guy who was from Georgia. Was that 14? Kick boxing fight, like nothing that can really like what are you going to do? All of a sudden become this like villain? You're just like look I can make the money money Christmas is coming up and I identify some presents. So let's let's fight. Like I can't tell you why I'm doing this every time I call out somebody like the aggressively they not fighting, you know, so I'm trying to trying to trick them so they can think to come and like, you know, I can agree to fight. That's what exactly happen to, you know, like Jeremy right away agreed. They he retreated at all. I'm going to fight December you call me butt cheeks and stuff and then I got mad and replied today. I'm going to break your jaw you show up December and then next Thursday. We don't have nothing. He's been like one week. I haven't heard nothing back from him, you know, so I don't know. Maybe I have to play this game like politely asked on the fan call you butt cheeks. Yep. I don't know why but he called me butt cheeks. What the heck does that mean? Maybe you know that my last name starts with G cards. And so he kind of wanted to be like something special to make and from the T took from a last name the cheek and maybe like that's I don't I don't know this guy it was and he does need to drop off. It was stupid. Now you you have an amazing trainer and Cordarrelle now, I heard he's in training Tyson. Have you seen Tyson in the gym often times many times he comes for aspiring for the midst of some time now, like the last two weeks will be preparation at this place his place more cuz they need to quarantine and stuff so they can avoid this code which it but tell us the truth. What house Mike Tyson looking. What's it like watching my Tyson's far? Like what's that like he is dead. Great man, like in real like, you know, they made the adjustment in the fight. So the rounds going to be 2 minutes. It's going to be I think eight rounds or eight rounds only or 6. I'm not sure about it. So the fights going to be short. There's not going to be like a real boxing where we used to watch. Right? So I'm expecting fireworks cuz these two guys maybe they are dead welders, but they still got bombs speed you guys going to be surprised. How fast is still Mike Tyson, you know life to other years when I met a few times seemed he was he was completely different. You know, I saw like the fire was gone kind of you know, like Tyson. I saw Tyson like a grandfather Tyson like different right, but now I'm I'm seeing him like he's totally different modes. I feel dead. it was a great combination Master of all and Tyson together cuz you know Raphael has so some energy some positivity. I don't know where every time he starts to coach you while aspiring or while training you feel more motivated to do your best choice and that's exactly what happened in case with the Tyson and they love each other life like one, It's like the one they've been together forever, you know, like something good happen to time because of this and he's on a fire now. Have you watched them Spar other people that's playing, you know, I watch him doing meats are watching training, but I haven't into watching the sport package. Remember when I used to watch Manny Pacquiao train over at Wild Card, I've never seen anybody throw anything so fast, I just, but it was like I was like blown away and it was great. It would go there for three hours four hours. But like is it the same type of noise or you just like you can't believe how hard that these miniature being hit? It's different noise. It's like the air Greg is happening. Every single time. You punch like like you feel the emotions you feel very orange. The trouble weed Jones is in trouble. I mean I watched Roy Jones train. I watched man. I love Roy Jones. I like the stylus is elusiveness the way you lose but I'm just telling you anything like that that that truck roll the way he rolls is just under it just seems like I don't know. I think he's in trouble. Now who's who's a nicer killer you or beneil dariush because I am so like on his vacation goes and build churches in like third world countries like he is and doesn't tell anybody you had to like get like, he's a nice this person off your your Instagram handle is knock out cancer like you are also what is it with you and benilde? What do you think that would you guys used to be like murderers back in the eighties song? Your way of atoning for all this like what why are you guys going nice, but you kill people no no. No. No Ben Hill is actually really nice guy. I'm not I'm not saying no this isn't why it's so I've seen it seems like soon as you get a couple of kicks to the body and I seen you do it over and over again when you body body and took so long as their hands come down this Saturday hit it's just Crush dead last couple of fights. I watched Our Lives W. I just thought oh, I don't think he said nice job somebody's nicer than you but he's a nicer guy than you probably probably General. Yeah. I mean he's different. You know, I have never seen the guy like him. Once the cage is closed like only octagon his different definitely totally completely different person, but once he steps out, I don't know. He's amazing guy. He he's living. I wish you guys have seen his like actual one day in 24 hours. And this is something like unbelievable. He's living his very simple in a very very simple, but very kind of super kind you would never would imagine that he was a fighter wage medium in a like streets or in the shopping or somewhere, you know, but yeah, like my my name only a social media is really fun because like no Coast gangster because I founded the charity fund when my mom died from cancer, you know, and that's something going to stay forever for me. Like I have this small charity fund every time I fight this I try to find somebody who really needs a help and help lead something like I do for my Mom Mom's loving memory of this. It's like the like when you have a pet dog And or family member and you make some money you want to surprise or do something good for everybody? Right? So let's how how my kids getting presents or family members stuff. So that's how I think about this as well that I have still my mom and because of his in her of memory in her blog, I do sometimes some good stuff, but I'm not nice guys. That's really not a cancer too, man. So thank you for doing that. That's really really sweet of my father did Frank So you guys know you guys then is honor to have you on the show best of luck in your next flight. Thank you for taking the 111. B I've always wanted to I see a lot of kick boxers that go become and get into MMA I think you did the transmission right because most of the time fight starts on the feet anyway and you already have that in your toolshed ready to go so it wasn't wasn't the one thing I wanted to ask you today cuz it was like it didn't seem that hard for you though. Even though you said you had to learn the wrestling and learn how to scroll and change but you see it didn't seem like it wasn't really that hard cuz you already were kind of a big deal. I'm not trying to I'm just saying you were I'll tell you what like, yeah, it was hard and the most hardest part was this that I was competing the kickboxing same time when I wanted to do like big step in MMA, but I was not adjusting my style. I was still spinning MMA like a simple Key Blue simple basic kickboxing style and then I realized that I'm from the south. Can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah, I realize that I'm from the karate background and I can I can switch the stances. I can bring some different techniques which is not in kickboxing. And then I realize that this is even better cuz I was watching Bill to fight. I was watching Michael page prior you Sorella this sunniest a little bit and then I found my style which is different and which is better than just to kick boxing style. So I mix it up this and once I figure out everything goes now like it's funny that as more time as I spend more easier is becoming for me to to do something and and thank you for calling on the show and I'll talk to you soon, brother. Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you. Good piece and have you like like you see how Sal Bender kicks when he goes to kick to the body shop. I think he kicks. I don't know his kicks are just even are better. Yeah, and I'm not saying I see this is not sitting on stylebender. I'm just saying no course man. I mean, he's got a month. I think just I mean they both have incredible kickboxing backgrounds, right? Well you fighting glory is like the UFC of kick box and that's the highest level you can get. I'm pretty sure someone's going to tell me I'm wrong. But like if you don't just sign up for Glory and they just you know, it's not a sign-up sheet. You have to get through it. You gotta you've gotta do some shit like it's not like you go. It's open mic of kickboxing. There's no overbite to take off. Yeah, there's no it's not like anybody can just sign up for this exactly. Now my man right here Vince Murdock is here go the Murdoch. What's what's up? So he's only has dead. He's one of my favorite people this dude talk about a guy who's been through helped. So this guy. All right. I'll tell you a little story about the background of this guy's case. You going out this guy was a great fight, you know, great wrestler just a all-around good guy finally made it to the USC finally made it right right a week for the fight or to make sticky God brain scan found out. He had some kind of brain injury, right? He ended up having some like part of his brain removed took a year off had they got a GoFundMe. I think it's worth a little crazy surgery made it back. Okay fought last week on the contender series. They told me never fight again. And there he is. You don't win. Hello. Okay. So it was it was it was still a win and he had a he had a thing called Maya Moyamoya, which is like a very very very rare brain dead. Where you end up forgetting things you lose. It can't remember thing you get tired and he still made it to the big stage man so much respect for that. How are you man? Good man. How are you for having me? Yeah. No worry. How are you feeling? How you feel about the fight last week? What could you have done different Talk to Me overall? I feel good. You know, it's pretty cool. Today's the 13th, which is exactly a year from my brain surgery. So today this time last year. I was under the knife. I was still in surgery. I didn't wake up until Thursday to the next next morning. But so it's pretty cool that I'm talking about it today. Yeah the fight last week like you said it was the all-around wage always just to be able to compete or continue to keep competing and I'm just I was grateful to be able to do that. If I would have done anything different I would probably would have approved. Dated a better match up. The guy had like a nine-inch reach for a ten-inch reach me but and I also fought on two weeks notice and I fought up a weight class, you know them all things that have you know in a sport like this every Advantage matters and I think I was more concerned with like competing before my year mark, and I was like looking at who I fought I felt like I did I competed well, but not to my ability and I think if I were to do things different, I might have committed not like testing his ground game and see where his grappling or what his grappling was like, but overall, you know, I just had a difficult time closing the Gap and the first name deal and it kind of took a lot of he was just able to get his game off before I was able to get my you were a little gun-shy Yeah, for sure. I mean after the first kick it took a lot of steam like a lot of confidence just cuz after after that my feet were you know, as long underneath me and when you commit heavily two punches if it draws you to your lead leg, so it's constantly on my mind and keep getting kicked in that leg and figuring out ways to not like get you committed to being really heavy on my my front leg and then after throwing a, you know, a couple of really really big Combos and big punches that just weren't doing enough or weren't Landing or you know, I just couldn't seem pretty close that Gap. I mean, he was five eleven. I'm I'm five five but no excuses me, and he like I said, I feel like I truly believe I'm a way better than him. He was just able to implement a game that was before I was able to get anything off and hats off to him. I mean even more importantly your wife is super hot bath So I think the plus makes losing a lot. Yeah, that's the most important thing the most important thing. I mean fighting comes and goes that yeah that white. Off the holy shake your account. We had our moments here. He had some arm length on them. So, you know, that's the one thing I would think was like look at this fucking off on this device. But I you getting in there was like, I mean to me I could not believe you got in there honestly when I saw you had my comedy show your like I'm getting brain surgery and I was like, oh no like man, and then I heard after surgery you go back to sparring and Cody Nola punch you in the brain? What what an asshole? What was he thinking? I don't think he meant to we were you know, we were like I was trying to give him rounds and like I said, I was I put myself in these situations like really really eager to come back and just wage. To prove that I was capable of coming back when it maybe it wasn't the the best idea and it's not ideal. I don't recommend anything like it. But to me it just I wanted to like prove to myself that I belong there and I and you know, I remember like getting hit just be like God. Damn. Yeah, like fuck. Well, I guess this is going to be okay cuz I'm okay. So I'm kidding. Did you ever use the side effects to your advantage? Like you forget your wife's birthday? Like oh sorry for sure. Probably every day if I forget anything, I'm like, come on man. I had half a brain for half my life my entire life. Also. I looked at some of your fights. What was it like fighting in India? Oh man, that was that was one of the most corrupt experiences I've ever had or ever ever. I've never really experienced corrupt. Is it like in a sport similar to this election? I guess now just joking the home when I went over there. They had a setup to lose before I even fought like I would win. I won one round and then they like they called it due to like the doctor's office. I had a cut on the back of my head. It was like they just found any way they could do to stop the fight. And so they didn't even Stitch it so and then that was supposed to fight the next week and then Thursday like they didn't want me to fight like it was like one of their like golden boys and they're like, oh he's not ready for you or something. They just like made it up and I made wait and everything on weight I made way cuz it was a tournament-style so I had to fight every week and then so they did that and then on the third week. They like oh, we don't have an opponent for you. They don't have a 45 or or something like that. And I made wait again and wait in and then they they told me they didn't have an opponent off then the morning after like, oh we got this guy. He's going to fight you. I mean you get to watch him win or nothing and he and and I'd already like Gunn got done just like eating like fucking whatever and stuff in my faith and I had to fight in like 5 hours like that. Was it in a situation to like turn anything down. They were very like it was like nerve-wracking to like a lot of the things that they were doing like wage, you know, what's the money but the street was terrible. I mean our money was good over there. Yeah. Oh so they can at least put you up a nice hotels or Broke, I mean, I don't know any is not really like even their nicest hotels aren't there, you know, they mean it is there was an experience for sure a culture that's for sure. But I enjoyed my time there the people were nice but as far as like their Sports, it was a most corrupt thing I've ever seen em like and it wasn't just me. There was a lot of guys that were going through some crazy stuff like the guy ended up kicking me in the dick three times and they gave him the win or loss. That sounds it sounds I was like what the fuck like like sounds like, oh you're kidding defend it. I was like we need to spend what like there was nothing defend. He kicked me in the dick. He walked away like wage was like, I mean, it sounds like my comedy here like this is hilarious. I mean, you've had a really hard road, but you beat my TJ Laramie you beating great God. Along the way you got a couple I mean brain surgery being one of them, but here you are man. And then I see you on Instagram Facebook and you're like the worst kind of follow because I met this guy has brain surgery and he's like dude biked a hundred miles. Just climbed looking Grand Canyon just did triathlons like Nothing Stops you fucking crazy work and you know, I don't know. I just started Living different, you know, since the brain surgery and I just want to like get the most out of my life and the most out of like my my faith is a is a human in person or my potential I guess so I'm constantly just been testing my boundaries or myself ever since recovery kind of came about I just kept em, I've been able to do just do more do more in like ever since, you know doing that. I've just been trying to see What else my body could handle and what I could do and I just keep pushing the limits on it really same thing with like anything. I love that showing any questions window questions. I'm just I think you should be very proud of yourself to be able you said you would make you should have pushed it after a year, but you did it though, man. And yeah, whether you lost and I not even the fucking point the point in life and so I look at that as like a win-win even in that situation. I know that sounds weird, but the wind Ami man you guys some crazy shit happen to you and you're still your bath and and chill and as Adam said and you got a hot wife your mother funny shows up wearing like like cleavage doing it like with like booty, but you're wrong, whereas like yoga pants like cleavage shirts and they just picked it up with this guy who's like all muscles out of his Vine. It's like and he's nice. So it's just like it's it's wrong. When is man cuz a lot of people imagine people that couldn't come back from something like that? Not only did you come back but you're living your life to like, you know, sort of how is Team Alpha Male doing like, oh, I know I don't feel I feel he had a rough fight that last guy Bryce I think maybe he was coming off an injury or something cuz that wasn't the same feeling as I seem in past not take anything away from break, but I know Cody no love he has a big fight coming up. What else is going on with that female female. Let me just say real quick before we move on from my brain. I made it back to the UFC on half a brain. So I was I was handicapped this entire time. I don't know if you know anybody knows that but you know what? I mean? Like, I think that's what stands out to me the most is it off I still like yet to kind of tap in them. Like, you know what I'm fully capable of. But anyway now, you know the story still being written off. Um, so yeah with fairly, you know, I think they had a a game plan in mind and then I don't want to say price Mitchell was like we logged in under rate them or nothing just he kind of came out and was able again to implement a game plan that you know, we knew was coming that he was just still really good as securing the takedowns and hold him down and you know, I thought he just I thought that was a great fight my opinion. I don't think really really looked bad in any sense. He just wasn't able to to Edge him out. You know, I mean that that's tough one. Right? And then we got Corey Papa's coming up is UFC debut. She won on the contender series. I'm really excited to watch her fight. She's a sheep. She works down and she's so well-rounded. It's it's really cool to just kind of see all the pieces come together. She's been coming to our team since she was like fifteen or something. She just turned Twenty-One I mean dead. It's really cool. And then you know em, it's been in the gym lately with recovering from his knee surgery. So, how are you? How's Cody know love God, he's good. He's dealing with the injury. I'm not sure what his fight is get of like what it will consist of or when he's like due to come back right now. We still like handling the the recovery process whether it's from the covid-19 and bicep or the vein or something. There's something wrong with this is my cell phone and he's got like a weird case of like Ovid to be honest. It's I don't really know how to explain it. I don't think he's like ages but I'm not sure I'm not really sure the details. I just know that he's still suffering some of the like was that recent like the side effects that that from having it I guess but I mean, he's he's looking great job. And I mean you still training. He's still lifting. He's still on the bike with me still. He's he looks good. I mean, I mean he's not he's not like stepping off when people say like he's not draining like he's home in the gym, too. And he's still working hard. So I don't know how long it'll be but I'm sure he'll be back like something will be announced soon for whatever's next forum. And who's that you have it was a law Perez. Is that who you have or younger? Actually? Yeah, I think that's that's who replaced him know, but who's the guy in the team alpha male you have that Mexican younger badass fighter off like a younger. Who am I thinking of was like undefeated wasn't there? I don't think so. Not that I know of. Oh, okay. I'm twenty-five has a man doing wrong. She's good. She's haven't seen her lately again. I I haven't really been I just got back from Vegas on Thursday of last week. So I've only been the gym a couple of days off but she's always cheerful and good. She's she's always in there. I mean the gym so snack I think songs songs gotta fight coming up Ian that girl the Chinese girl that just hatched out. Was it Claudia Claudia, Claudia Claudia? I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. That was a that was a good fight and it's songs got something coming up. We get a lot of fights and it's crazy the gyms back. We got a guy fighting I think tonight and bare-knuckle boxing. His name is Eddie just doing the birth of boxing fight. Our GM is just slowing right now. So hopefully I can get back a little bit call soon will keep up the great work man was great talking to you. And thanks man. Thanks for having me. I was great coming on any time events and I'll see you next time. I'm in Vegas, or I'm in Sacramento. Yes, sir. Take care, brother, please. I like that guy. Yeah, I've read I read I watched a lot of news. I saw that the stuff and I was like this dude is so lucky. And so the fact that he could he come back and even do the things he's doing now, that's some serious like it's it's weird when we think about the ship. We're complaining about him going. Yeah, but he got fucking head against his brain worked on Thursday said it's like come on. It's like I don't want to go to the gym. I'm tired or like when I watch stuff like that makes me go. You know, what get your ass the fuk up what you want. What you he got his brain board God what's wrong with you? You know, so like I've been drinking trying to drink two gallons took like two gallons or a gallon of pop a day and even when I bet you about that I go you know what? I watch that video and go you know what but it just get brain surgery. Yo said yeah, it's like it puts things in some perspective. But like a lot of these young I watched about an hour and half of like I like one fighting. I actually like the fighters over there. I like their birth huge. I didn't know that was that like I said Asia, they have a monopoly on it. I have an idea and I guess some great Fighters. I watched Demetrious Mighty Mouse one of his fights Mighty Mouse. Mom, even though you know, I think he's one of the best up doing man that motherfucker man. Assuming he's he's some other nother level shit man better fight last night. John Whitaker one knocked off out. I'm not sure if they test over there either. So who cares about the test a couple Knockouts hilarious like okay. It was a good fight club. Seriously, I think Vitor Belfort's going to make a comeback and that organization. Oh, well, yeah, man, if his horse holds don't rip the fucking us from all of this but the horse wage since taken but no I'm telling you. I watched an hour of that and I watched some stuff from back in the day UFC UFC back in the day was wrong all dude. I mean like this. I saw this one guy he gets the guy that crucifix and it looks like he elbows his brain out of his body kind of Gary Goodridge. Oh, it's just right but it's the first like and he said he he looked over and the guy was a good wrestler, but he was practicing the move he was going to do on him. So he knew what was going to happen. We looked over and watched it. I practiced that move the fireman's carry basically and he's like, all right. I'll just wait for that to happen and elbowed him like 9,000 times to face after that. I think it was like 9,000 times. So that's why a lot of times when I watch the the New York City now I go off. Man, the Jews back in the day. That's why I like talk. What's the money? I like the fact each of my God fight anybody anywhere. Friday test they were they were brought off all of those. They were different. They were different breed of person, right? That's why I'm saying but now could you think the guys now if it was if they were some way to magically have them fax you think they were harder harder before or not? I think everybody involved, you know, it's hard to say, I think the guys back then were just I would say maybe tougher because they fought like three times four times a night and torment style. You know, when and also if you look at the fact that like they were doing it for no money didn't even know what they were doing half of them. They really did she had training great training. I mean Josh Barnett told me he used to just hit people up on the computer and be like, hey, you look like you could fight want to meet me at the gym like a local YMCA in the weight room and fight each other that was his way of life. Cussing like there was like one time it was like there was a wait room above like a kids are having like swim class and look over those two giant guys didn't change the face. So I think there was a certain toughness back then but I think there's a better better athletes now not that there weren't amazing athletes then because you got guys like Kevin Randleman and Kevin 2010 Shamrock, but at the same time there's way more division one wrestlers going in now is way more, you know guys that are like off high the hot the highest level Jujitsu Judo cuz his boxing so I think this is more than a lot more wrestlers now who are great athletes, but at the same time, you're not going to get a better athlete can rental me three times. Calmly was great, but comedy a lot of his fights not to discredit him. It did seem like people to even know the rules like he was doing like some weird sang show rules where like people just just like right off them, but then they couldn't do certain things and they'd have to start in certain ways. Now they cuddly was an awesome, but I just wish he was just doing animated the whole time not like some kind of hybrid, Well, no doubt. It was escapes his kicks. He got the unbelievable. I know we lost I lost a Scott Smith though Scott Smith got the living shit beaten out of him and just and it was like Rocky and he came back and won and I was shocked that was one of my favorite fights ever. But yeah, he was awesome. He also a wrestler. He's a great athlete, He was a great athlete but I was I was thinking about them if they could do the guys now because of their training and also new techniques, you know, could they Hang with these raw dog old school cats if they were at the same time, cuz they were just they would fight like like you said they walk in this. Yeah. We're at the supermarket. Let's go. You know, we ran out said you want some of this and they just let's go. I mean, it just say seem a little bit more it's hard to really I mean, but also people didn't know to get too so they were they were looking at like, I mean hoyce Gracie they were looking at him like didn't know what was going on. They didn't know they're going to the ground with this guy's planned. I mean art Jimmerson literally War one box and go out to his fight cuz he didn't want to break his hand so long, you know people now know what these guys are doing for the most part. I mean, you're still going to be guys. It's like come up with some crazy new techniques if you like. What the fuck was that like that that dude in st. Louis off that did that crazy kick where you keep the guy in the head after like posting his foot on the guy's leg and was like a weird Stephen walking Buckley Joachim Buckley. He's fighting at UFC 2:55 a.m. You going to see things like what the hell is that? You know you're going to find or even that weird choke that the guy did last week that huge guy from spin off. Whatever his name is. Yeah like that guy. It was like, oh you don't see it was a forearm through the neck was always going to be weird things that you'd like in before but I don't think this would be a whole new type of fighting like Jujitsu was just unknown two people and then a lot of these recipe Hammer house when I loved they were just too stubborn to learn to get sued. They were like trying to prove that wrestling could be due soon and that was and then the guys that were smart were like, well, why don't we just take off because like Chuck Liddell were like, well, let's just take some of the stuff in Jujitsu and some stuff from wrestling and combine it. Yeah. I mean I did now you watch some of these young guys. I watch a fight. We're not spending uppercut elbows. I'm like, you wouldn't see that before like a spinning uppercut of elbow Badlands and knocks people the fuck out like well what I love about you get you what ever ever met is it also took away a lot of those jobs like because the mcdo Jose and then in the eighties and nineties of guys like claim to be like fourth day and black belt. So just got just murdered quick, right? They would come and fight. They would fight they fight a guy off and hands and to wrestle and just surprised it was like, okay, you know, you going to show up an Aggie and a black belt and we're going to see how this is going to go. And then that was it, you know so odd, but it's great. I mean, I love I love it. You know, there's really it's like it's a blessing to be able to live and I'm bringing it back again. I wouldn't I literally was Jazz when I was watching the GSP off already interviewed. I know I once I was like that is so fucking cool. Yeah, like even though I mean, I I know I got a few things going on like do pretty well off. I was like, I know that guy that was there when he said that guy. And I thought that was really cool. And I think that the fact that the fighters give you so much respect. Also, I mean, I know you can roll too. So it's not like it's not like you can I have recognized just a dictator my ACL really took me back like when you get ACL surgery from YouTube, you're just like you start second-guessing everything and also the the fear I I had trouble growing torn groin muscle which is fucking horrendous. Then I had a chipped bone in my pelvic but my pelvic bone because they would because I'm big they would say, oh well put him with people our way back to me. I mean, the guy has to win over 20,000 right my God, and and we we were rolling a golf course and he's just killing me and he's like, he's like, he's like you're pretty good and he's like a dog Eggs and like you choose and it's my first day I was like what and then he's like no kidding. I have a winning record for some reason. It's like for some reason they just sold to somebody it's in the walls. I roll have any magali in Vegas and I'm like, oh I'll take it easy on me so I can take that be like ninety times and off but don't you say I I hear that all the time and I hear people say that I go. Well you kind of gotta get beat up a lot to get good. You got you gotta get about you. Think about like you think about it you get you or like uh, or like I think one of the differences is like it doesn't really hurt, you know, like like you get you can get tapped stuff, but I'm sort of a gentle sport like you get tired. But unless unless your unless you don't tap like an idiot like me you're not really to get hurt. If something, you know, you're going to lose wrestling. You don't really get hurt wage. Get fucking feet up. You don't get hurt. I think boxing boxing I think boxing is the one you really get hurt or even kickboxing cuz you're like you get kicked in the fucking leg or sparring or I remember I Spar box. I have hags all fucking day, you know afterwards and like what am I doing? You know, that's what I think you get to hurt, but you could really like like like I would never even leave it off Russell them got the best guys in the country when I was in high school or college. I never really got I was never about getting hurt, you know, like like losing a hurt more than the actual wrestling the actual being, you know her torment and I think it would like to Jitsu like like yeah, someone can like bend your arm. If you don't tap you're going to be like in pain, but you're not really getting clicking be hurt. You know, I you know, I mean you can get hurt I've been knocked out. I've been Hip toss and when you're hip process, I mention my pelvic bone a hip toss me and I landed and just I was in it so you can get her but not yeah, but it's not like I don't know. It's like boxing with someone's like punching in the face and pain is being rattled every fucking time. I think that's actually more painful than getting take down. That's why I think that when I was I was talking shit about McGregor fighting Floyd and my friends were like burgers to walk suing because he's to hear that left that left hand is just Iron Age like dude boxers. That's all make fukkit a person's an idiot. Whoever should they never really don't know anything about about Combat Sports anybody that paid McGregor and I don't even thought in Black who knows almost everything about it the burger and I was like, This has got to be a joke, like even when I know I'm like, I don't get it. I don't understand how you could put in your right mind pick a guy who's never had a pro boxing match over the best boxer of like that's to me like because the hype train but I I I was arguing with a bunch of comics at The Comedy Store and I think because McGregor was had so much momentum to think anything. I'm like, I don't think he's going well. Yeah, but Floyd Mayweather's older doesn't matter matter doesn't matter at all and it didn't say whether it's a smartest fighter in the history of boxing. I mean, he's totally taken almost no damage. He's never even even dropped once in his career like in early fight like he's never he's brought. He has been robbed Sugar Shane Mosley Rock the shape that he buckled his legs, but he wasn't like I said, he doesn't know where it is. It was it wasn't like rock like Micky Ward would get rocked or Arturo Gatti would get rocked right like stumbling around the ring, you know, I mean dead. It was like okay legs got buckled and maybe he got days for us slide second, but it he was never a real trouble in real trouble. He said that the two people that hurt him the most was Sugar Shane Mosley and everybody thought. Oh, it was probably what's his name the guy that maybe he'd been his his hand know. I'm seriously Betty Betty and how long it's going pushing down and infighting twice. Oh the guy Marquez. Yeah. He said but that wasn't he said Koto is Christine Steele know it wasn't a seal. We're going to go on he know he he said Koto he said Koto was hard as fuck. Yeah, he says a lot of shit. I don't I don't know what to believe with that guy constantly. Like may I love Mayweather, but you never know what to believe nobody. What why would he give props in those two fighters though? He might have talked to the guy the day before or something. Oh, yeah, like you like I said, hey man, so yeah, I mean that guy and I love my brother, but you just he's just he's a hustler. He's a fucking salesman Nick. What do you guys have for tomorrow's main event? Also there versus hot field dos anjos. I like Felder. Are you 5-days? Come on, man. I may notice he can't you can't take him somebody that level jobs you can you can't know what do you got Wind? Come on tell a joke. Well, I had Havel winning earlier in the week. But now after doing some analysis I'm slightly leaning towards Paul Felder one because he's an underdog in this fight and I like to place bets on it may fights and to you know, people are saying oh Paul Felder, he's old he retired now, he's coming back. He was older than Paul Felder and javiel has won like four out of the last 10 fights in Paul Felder has fought some goddamn demons and he kind of won all those sites that he lost. I thought it off last night too. It's a lot of decisions like but Paul Felder beat Edson Barboza PB James Vick Charles Oliveira, that's huge beating trolls. Olivera's huge party a fight that maybe would sway me wage. The Kevin Lee fight that was recently where he beat up Kevin Lee, but even that was like what three years ago that was in 2019. Yeah, but you want you waiting but five five days five days come under he made wage. Apparently he was training for a triathlon before he accepted his device. So I'm sure he is in shape like you got to look at it this way. Okay, even though even if I would possible. I took 5 days, it's just absurd it's just okay. I'm a nerd. This is based on nothing and I have no an adult allegations and I'm just going to put it out there. It just seemed like post busada rtj was a little different than previous out of RDA. Let's look at this record previous aati, he won like eight in a row or something first. He was like 10:00 and 10, then he went off in a row and other side of came and like what is 404 a year to do solder come in. Do you know what year was a 2016? Yeah, cuz he he went out three fight winning streak. I think this is dead. Bruce I'd already be Robbie Lawler Neil Magny Tarik safieddine. But before that he lost a Tony Ferguson lost Eddie Alvarez and this is where a big win streak came in. This isn't 2015 and 2014 Donald Cerrone. He beat Anthony Pettis Nate Diaz Benson Henderson Jason. Hi, I don't know who that is lost to khabib but it's all right, I think back that statement. Okay, I don't know. I don't know. I am also also take this into consideration Xavier dos anjos was going to fight Islam makhachev. So hot feel I guarantee you he was training wrestling heavy duty wrestling defense in Paul Felder them come in and probably not wrestle. He's probably going to you know, do a classic Paul Felder striking match with like some spinning elbows and shit. So it could throw Hot Wheels game plan off. We have more time to to train for that but five days, I think it's just they're throwing a lot of fighters in there doing that. I think that's a fucking Mistake I understand you want to go get the money and you're a fighter, but you know, yeah the problem there is a problem. It was it was a main event. They needed a main event like, you know off the main event you have to you know deliver. So yeah, I know what you're saying. I mean if people give them props for stepping up, but I think that's a mistake. I think that the only person that I think that I really was impressed by it just engaged she did take it a little bit more short notice than he normally would I I give I give a thought there was an actor went to a Catholic school and it's like a theater major Paul. Yeah and it became like a fighter to like train and now he's the number like three in the world like Susan fucking monster and he said a great College later. He's a winner Paul filters a winner or not. Yeah. I just think that he's him stepping in there. I think he's going to take a hell but we menu if you log You're going for him. You're going yeah, I'm slightly towards Paul Felder commentator also helps a lot like cuz if you're also watching and starting fights all day long, you gotta go like like figure out why do people are bound you might have to be on fighting. So you're literally watching game plans of all different kinds of styles all the time and breaking down twice. I think people don't realise that like Cormier off this being Dominick Cruz Paul Felder, like these guys are good, theaters for a reason but they're also great Fighters. It seems like the guys who actually stay home while they're fighting that helps them stay focused and stay in the game cuz you have to analyze all you do is watching Fighters watching movement gives you time to figure out what you can do against I see what you're saying. I you know, I just I was on Twitter and I said, it was a couple things that people didn't agree with me. I just surprised that you go on Twitter and say things that you know off I get some people to say yeah, like when I was talking about Anderson Silva quit there was people like that. I was being a bitch and you can't tell a command to do when you said quit. I'm like come on motherfukers you seen he shouldn't be fighting no more. He should of course, he's super rich. I think that was a common thing from his brother and when I say some I don't like it when they have Fighters like hey, you gotta fight three days. It's like this bullshit. You can't really get a good game plan. You can't you can't be ready for somebody totally in three to five long time is kind of Tony took the fight on two days notice and now he's in New York this more often than not that they get beat. Come on. Yeah, I gotta look I look I look at that stat. It's a good stuff off most of the time. Yeah, somebody's been training for months and then they get thrown in with somebody. They usually Merc them cuz they've already been in the gym. I mean, I don't know when I will take you up on this page take you up on this. I think this is a mistake and even though he's going to get paid. I think he's it's a mistake and I would say a lot of like the crowd if you have like one guy in the crowd like hey, you know, you're up, you know bucket. What are you doing tomorrow when you go now? I just like announced the person. I just probably just says next fighter is Jim from 34 perception. And then come on down never get in their way out of all of them will Bellator I even on like the fights you'll see a smart how they're going about it. They're not fucking around not talking around at all. They're not fucking around at all. I do I do like that but I don't know. What's the biggest fight they could make right now. I heard that that what's it's going to pull out a fight the in January, but against McGregor. Yeah. Or you can pull out our fight cuz he wants a better deal. He wants more money. And if he does then Tony Ferguson would fight who I'm mad at that age. He would fight McGregor went to bed. Wait a minute. Not a bad book know I think that Tony I don't know. I think Tony could beat him. I think Tony competing. I don't have to engage you wouldn't be I don't think Gates you would be McGregor. I kind of liked that better to be honest because they never felt. Hello Fergus Poirier P. All righty never fought before you think my Ferguson vs McGregor. Oh, okay. I like that better than Poirier McGregor off due to really I I I I like I like it but I was thinking engage Estep said cuz they have beef like him and Conor McGregor don't like each other. They have big feet. Yeah. I mean, they're all all three are, well, we're coming off winning the Goethe and burgers are coming off losses elves. I but I think McGregor would you think but I think McGregor would be either of them. I don't know. I got the best shot wait because it's a running at 170. I think McGregor beats all of them but a $55 I would almost give it to a different fight. You know, like I think they have to cut weight. It's different. I think McGregor's better at 170 than even if it's off. I mean, I think even if it comes down McGregor's gauge she is going to go in there unless he cuz he looked like he got shipped bike could be he looked show up to me and I said he looked shocked and they're like, he's just a computer and there's something they what they say. I Really they are I don't care what they I'm saying and then they put out after that USA USA. I'm like, that's not today. It's one person saying this, you know different people inbox me for different people inbox me saying I was being a dick because I cuz I thought he looked shocked cuz I do it right after the fight though. It looks dead. Nothing. I mean that was the worst gauge if you've seen in years. Yeah, so he looks jokes. So but you gotta think if you're a fan of that fighter and I'm saying something against that fighter, even though I wasn't I like the way they still think I'm being a dick cuz I was like disappointed I was disappointed as fuck. I thought I thought it was going to be a great fight. I was thinking about this is something back and forth is going to be great and it wasn't it was just a beginning to be real with you. So that's why I like Tony first, even though he lost he fought till the end man and motherfukers a weirdo. Yeah. There's no question Tony Ferguson, right? And I think at him Conor McGregor would be entertaining as fuck. I think he would lose but I think it'd be entertaining as far as he guys had a lot right Ferguson is a lot but he doesn't really get hurt. He's like, yeah, he just keeps on even though what and and Fergus is got better ground game than Connor. Brad so if you got better wrestling, but Connor has put anyone out order has to land and he's super unorthodox. So it's hard to land on Ferguson. But then again he gets hit a lot of how hard is it? It's it's tough as a tough tough call. It really depends on what Tony shows up. It's a fun fight. Yeah. So when you think that that would be that would be the one you'd want to see why I'm such a big fan. I'm always gonna want to see him fight anybody just because he he's going to make any fight entertaining. That's why I really wanted to see him versus khabib. But Tony versus Conor. I mean that's a fight most fight fans have always wanted and I think it's going to be a very competitive fight based on Tony's last fight. He was taking a lot of big ass shots and I don't think you can take those shots from McGregor. He might be able to take him from Goethe and that's saying a lot but McGregor, I think he has a lot more power in that left hand engage. He does and his and he's a lot more precise. Yeah. She's not as precise as McGregor McGregor's McGregor's footwork is fog Now that he started implementing more kicks cuz I would say right now when he finds d as if he the second fight if he wouldn't just like let his leg up so much. I think it would have been he would have lasted. Yeah, he he let his thoughts and that was what changed the fight because the first fight he wasn't doing that at all. He had all the first flight he was just and when he went to the ground, he looked like he was like fish out of water and he did I mean not that I like him, but he looks like a fish out of water. So I just think that Adams right Tony on the ground is a beaut. He's a monster. I mean, I mean, he's Semitic heavily and he's just he's amazing. If bertel Birds also like what Tony so much of it is like personal life training camp. How cold would you be able covid-19? Old tax included, you know and fucking made it and I really Thrive so it's a whole different it says this is all exchanges everything. You know, it really changes everything and what kind of people do you have around you and it's not an awful situation and also, you know always trained his own way though. Yeah, and you said that ends up him getting hurt. So the gates G. He pretty much you know was he was always getting hurt and training because he was doing these strange. I don't like the locks techniques but but it is what it is. Like I I'm a Tony Ferguson fan. I'm a friend of his we texted back and forth. You know, he's a really nice person. He's a good person anyone that knows 20 Ferguson says great things about him if you know him personally, so I think that sometimes the answers are a little bit out there, you know, but when it comes down to it, he's a solid solid guy. Yeah. I mean when you get to I've never you know, I never got the media more time to time. I just feel like it'd be entertaining to talk to cuz he seemed Wackadoo in his interviews he is and it's not he is but it's also not he's not trying to be Wackadoo like off like like Mayhem Coachella met him. He was like, I gotta put on a performance, you know, he was always putting on a show for people. That's just Tony Ferguson. Like there's no place like that. For real. Are you bullshiting me are you know, but it's not but when when somebody's always acting like that it's and then you know them it's not weird for them. You know what I'm saying? Like it almost like it's like not strange anymore. Its just the SS them whereas like Mayhem would be like completely normal and like we have like our conversations about everything and the camera will come on and he felt like for his fans. He had to be a certain way. Oh he would he would put the face on. Yeah, and that drove me crazy because I'm like, bro, you don't home. Do this you don't you know, you don't have to like plug and smashed bottles on your head for everyone to go. That's looking good guys crazy, you know, like like you don't think it's enough. This is enough. This is you know, I 520 Ferguson. I thought it was him putting it on. No Thursday. Oh, okay. It's my time and it's time to promote. No, no, no, no weapon do so do some Wackadoo should say somewhere that you should but when you actually like I don't know the interaction of how with them. That's what I actually understand where it's not as wackadoos. I think people would think if you actually understand where you're coming from because I don't even come on man page him do come on. Haven't seen that many interviews going to be like watch interviews of him and Wayne e Cosa. He says some Wackadoo shit. Yeah, I mean Diego Sanchez. This is UFOs. I know how do we not talk about that on this episode? That was bizarre man. No, no definitely on he's definitely been kicked in the head by choice was something when he was a baby. I just feel like yeah, he's always been a Nutty Buddy but he's always been that way. So you must be somebody said that you have servers were like what a weirdo like the people walk ins can't believe how strange he was even aliens goes. I don't know if I want to talk with this guy for like what I'll fight anyone of you we got six arms do birth. The aliens were like this guy's got some some weird shape. Like we know why we didn't come this far with this weirdness, but that's why that's why I thought since you know, you you you texting for some reason in my mind. I thought oh, that's how he is when it's time to fight and then you're out in front of the media. I didn't think so in case there's there's no way he goes to his house or actually, I don't think he's that weird. I don't know. I wanted to I know we were doing the show I got one thing. Do you think Max Holloway should get another shot at the fight. Yes. They do not get robbed. And yeah, I didn't see that got robbed. You think people would give a fuck cuz they were like, well, you lost twice. Yes, Max Holloway is always be the nice guy is a champion is a solid dude and he's a great fighter and if when when you lose those kind of fights and then people are more than welcome to see you. It's like the Joanna injunction birth. Zhang well you fight it's like when you lose by that little of course, you know, it's when you get completely wiped out looks like what Ben askren gas and do you think you should get a rematch with my hospital? He's like no he beat me in seven seconds, but he said why do I deserve a rematch? I need a rematch and I know you don't deserve one right now. Not right now just saying that he actually booked another fight though. The guy that just beat Anthony Smith there fighting Rodger. Yeah. Yeah. It's raining Rockets. Just yeah. Yeah, I hear the end of this year. I don't really feel like a December. I guess that there's going to be a big fight power, but I don't really see anything until next year for like big big big fights. Yeah. There's a bunch of good fights Bellator. That's what if I still had fights but not really any big fights off. Right like big deal fights. I think that if stylebender fights even though I don't think he should if Salvatore fights for the light heavyweight. That would be a big deal the biggest wage but I don't think he deserves I think that he doesn't deserve that fight against aljamain is a big fight. That's for the title page two young ones that are champions right now Peter Ian and Ian block away. It's repeater Ian. It's a big fight 170 boots on Gilbert. Gilbert Burns has been posting pictures of him change his mind training together and then it was spawns like in the back watching him and he's like, oh someone's a spy. He's like trolling his friends like so I'm saying there's nothing to make sure I think it took me a Thursday is a big fight in Bellator Antonio McKeever staring called. Well, that's a big fight nicest person. But I mean, I guess we're what we're saying a big fights. Yeah. I know it's not dead. Tiger there's no to be there's no trunk Jones like a beam is not I don't think he's coming back. So what he said he's coming back. I don't think so. I think he's done because it seems like he's more of an honorable dude. Like you said it was mom said that's it. That's it. And I think he's just going to be a trainer who she got a bear costume and call him out. I want a rematch. I want to get my stomach took my other strongest ship. My youngest son is a bucket monster. But but he's also kind of crazy. So combination what you said is the perfect combination of yeah, it's like half the UFC fighters. Well, yeah, you're right. You're absolutely right have that aspect of crazy. If you're going to fight in a cage in front of thousands of people around these guys all the fucking time off. Yeah. So you know the funny part is that like they're almost everyone's like yeah. I got cold. How to go. I I know I had it or I don't like, you know, I lost my like seemed like covid-19. GFC is not dead. Well, yeah except for calling Olive. I don't know what the heck kind of, he got Jesus. I hope he's okay. All right, so, I'm sure my special on Wednesday. I'm doing a live stream from Flappers on Saturday night. Hit me up at Adam comedian. Yeah. Yeah flat person doing a in Flappers and then I'm going to be in Alameda, a club in the first week of December in Las Vegas at the Strat on New Year's Eve that whole week when you got coming up Shay tomorrow night. I'll be in Vegas. I forget the name L A Live Now what's the fuk is the name to put I'm in Vegas tomorrow serving show whatever I can remember. So it's already the the tickets already sold out. So it's just going to be the rest of it's going to be just Framing and it's on my site go to my side. I am saying. Com and you can check it out. Okay, and and windows go over to the job pressure on YouTube to watch the game. 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#548 - Shang, Weendawg, and Sean McCorkle

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1:15:51 hr | 10 months ago

#548 - Shang, Weendawg, and Sean McCorkle

"Traps. Traps. Rat. Don't. Want. To, Cook, dot. Talk. People to go. Yeah. So we were just talking about Chang said, he's kid taekwondo and his quit because you only did it because you and I was like man, you gotta trick them into thinking that he wants to do it. That's the key to life is Meghan. That was the idea. No No. No he he didn't quit get. Me and his mom. To, because he would do stuff outside. Use. The stuff on other kids and stuff Chandu do that do not absolutely not. Rose to podcast people. We've got a great show today. We got Jamal. Emerson is going to be coming on while damal coming up a huge win in the UFC great as well as mccorkell has some more comedy for us. It's going to be a really. Well, let me know about that at a time. Now. Monday, we're talking about how I was really happy for Derek Brunson because I think that the UFC they just assign people gatekeeper, Scott Status I'd other Gary Goodridge had a book called the gatekeeper where it's like, Hey, you get past this guy. Then you're the real deal, but it's such being that guy because it almost seems like that means the gatekeepers not really line for a title shot. He's a sort of being used as the guy to. Build up the guy and I was happy that with this one. I love when it doesn't work out that way because. Spoiler. Didn't work out I also. A meeting, an old guy, a forty, two year, old comedian who's considered old in the comedy world in the comedy business and has not gotten stuff because we're looking for. You knows and fresh up and coming. You know I'm Mike Fuck that dude I'm not done. I haven't I haven't peaked. Alright. So so I look at it maybe from respective, but same guys like Derek Brunson or. Cub Swanson Center, some of these other guys that they try to, you know piggyback. They go okay and I love it when it doesn't work I love when they've Macron Gracie against come Swanson in cup, teach them a lesson I. Love it when. That's I've never heard but. Edmund. Shabazz. Ian, WHO's you know? Who's you know he's ten an hour but hasn't beaten getting Brad virus means to good guys. But against the guy like, Derek Brunson who Derek Brunson is, one of those dudes he's well, every fighter is their own worst enemy, but he is his oh worst enemy because he's a guy that would just not fight intelligently, he would go out there the. The a maniac and I said, what are your? What is your quarter thing? When you go out there like a wild gear, they were pretty pissed bull unhappy. He actually burst round. Didn't blow his wife and took his time came back and got the finish, and honestly I watched the fight I. Think the I should have been stopped I, mean some say me and company more. Honestly stop a second round. Yeah, I think he was. He come on man and people are going to be like you gotta give definer chance. Oh, he was pretty much done. Now, what a guys on the ground and the Guy Talbot punches him and his head goes straight back at his at his head. His hands aren't there to defend the next punch. As soon, as the head goes straight back, it's over, you know his elbows ambrose was freshening and the thing is I see what you're saying I see, I'm thinking about it differently, I think they're Brunson was pretty much like. If you think that I'm a gatekeeper. If you think I'm that good. Why don't you give me the shot that you know, I'm that good like I just think that he alway- hacked monkeys. Shit he is. But the problem is that he's come up short every time. When he had great against Your Romero, he was beating Romero's even at least Prime Romero and they lost in the third thing was the weird. It was a weird thing. Did something strange now? Fight I forgot exactly what it was so long, it was a little bit illegal to something happened and then Anderson Silva. Fight. I thought Brunson one, but they gave it to Anderson Silva, and then when he fought style bender, he just got smoked and what he fought whitaker, he got smoke. So he has had his chances. He's always seemed to fall short and I think that the grudge he was at Greg Jackson's camp, but it didn't seem like he was the guy they were focusing on a Greg Jackson. He he went to hard knocks, and it just seems like this is the camp. This is a camp for him. Henry he was very. I, thought he was a he looked great. He was. He was. He looked great I thought the Katie was fine was no joke but. He was taking some serious punishment. Was GonNA be as as. You know the thing is is like, but the thing that kid is I don't give up on that kid because he didn't lose because he was outclassed I mean he was outclassed a little bit. But he lost because he was gassed. He was not in shape on I. Think he I think He. He out class, but he was guilty one, the first round, he just he just was. Out of shape and you know it's funny I mean it's got to be one of the things now during this pandemic I way none of my past second round ever he are the one fight. Did you normally he? He gets guys out there early, but this pandemic, it's different kind of training you know and. Some guys may have some guys may don't, but this this pandemic throw historic curb balls and things. We can't masturbate in theaters like. Tragic. PGA. We're seeing the same guys fight every single week. I'm. Like this guy fought last week, there aren't even leaving the quarantine going to vegas disdain there, and then we're seeing guys never fight and then you know training who knows what? They look took training for granted. You know went back when the pre pandemic things guys, Kinda, like they show a blade, they could leave early. They can get three days, can do that now it's like. You really got to be on your shit. You. Need. A saw. I saw an interview with cornmeal at. He said that this actually got him more focus because there are other distractions you have to be into pocket and a I think that even though I think lose a fight I like him a lot to lose a fine in the day though I think Brunson sought assassins opportunity like shut up. He did. Really. That was a motivating factor I felt like really Really. That and. Cup once, and to because there were a couple of fights with cups on before that chrome grace if I were, he just didn't seem like he really cared as much. But when he when they when they they throw throwing a new guy and the guy's undefeated and and they're using, you gotTa, you gotTa feel like fuck do they. They must think I'm washed up, they're trying to make a star out of me. and. That's All. For me. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Right, and you gotta take that personal. I. Mean. But it's like as a comic sometimes like when you get bumped for a guy that you're like, what's that like? I mean, sometimes that next time you're on a show with that guy and you go on before him you you're like, all right, dude, you're the big thing. Oh. Oh, you're the guy. So you purposely try to smuggle and I want. I always want to smoke them. Sometimes I'll. I'll fuck you get that extra. Visit yet, God. I had that happened with Elisa slasher and people got mad at me, 'cause. Like somebody wanted to up manager managers. Go Golo. Goal. Easy I'm like what the fuck does that made. She's closing. Born before her, that's it. That's what's going to happen and it happened. Exactly. It was. It was me. Update enough. In Her Emmy rely dubbed like you're taking off the pedal, I'm not he said or. Not Said Okay I'm? Like, Hey, can you work clean like amid prego onstage like like our? Hey, the mind the don't cry like what? Like I'm giving them a show. This is this is a show like. And do you think these Brunson because I've watched his interviewed and he actually Kinda food out there a little bit? He said A. Think I'm out in the mix. He said I'm a little bit more focused camp. Could have a lot of times I think happened with as versus McGregor the first time when they were. You know I think happens a lot of times fighters. No. The odds they know the odds are like don't breads and probably was like three to one, and you see a lot of times after the fight of them just looking at. Either Dana or the crowd or like what like like like. Are they are? They say something like, yeah, motherfucker. That's that's what I'm. That's what I'm here for what you think you're going to and you know. But like I said. I'm equating to like pandemic. I'll. I'll bring it back to comedy right now. I'm doing comedy I'm doing three shows a week you know some comics like dues shows Oh really. So you're writing every fucking day jokes and when you come back, you're going to do those jokes. No, you're not. A lot of Congress and writing jokes like fucking. I'll alright. Joanne. Pack. Might be. Like for me, it's like you got to be disciplined. If I don't do those zoom shows, then I'm not gonNa work as hard. I know personally about getting new material out and and coming up with new material and at being as tired as I possibly can because when you have a when you have a destination, that's when you really turn it up, and this is the deadline is the comedy show. So I have to be good for the comedy show where no fucking deadline. It's really easy for people to be like. I'll just do it when I get back and and you could lose Focus Lewis Training and I think that happens a lot of times with with camps. You know it's like you gotta be on your game. You GotTa, you can't. You gotta be someone. Told me one time. To be a good comics, you've got to be a nerd about shit. You GOTTA BE LIKE A. Nerd and then somebody else told me the difference between a professional as an amateur is detail. It's fucking detail. You know it's you gotta be detailed anyway. not flexing. So I point out something really quick about that. I. Noticed About Edmund, and his camp, Glendale Fight Club. Yes. This is very bizarre because we know he's been training there since he was ten years old with Rhonda, Rousey, I went on sure dog and I looked up the Glendale Fight Club I. saw that there was only ten fighters are fighting out of the Glendale fight club and he's the only one hundred and eighty five pound fighter aside from this other, vardon. XOLANI duties are all Armenian but. That's bad for like an up and comer fighter was so much potential as to how such A. Cabinet Edmonds. Biggest problem is that he's a he's very arrogant and I think he knows boxing. Boxing trainer I know he's got a lot of up and coming boxers I probably if you look on their on their website boxing wise. Probably a lot of boxers there but. It's like anything else. It's like it's not boxing match. Martial Artists Arts Martial Artists. Edmund was getting the better of Brunson in boxing. Harder shots. But then all of a sudden Brunson was like closed distance Russell take him down. Edmund didn't know what to do gas to fuck out because that's like I mean Ronda Rousey. His mom used to take out for lunch and just be like what? What is this Guy Doing? You know? It. Part of the. Coach. No I think he's a good specialized coach. I think when it comes to boxing like if if all of a sudden I was like, Hey, I, need to clean up by punches I think you can go to admit it become a better boxer, but that's not mixed martial arts, right? and. So No, I don't think he's a good mix martial arts coach I think he's a good boxing coach. You know he trained under Freddie Roach like he was like a allegedly one. A Freddie's guys. So you know he was what if you look at Rhonda Arousal what she tried to stand up with people and instead of using her Goto, she was in house honest and he was telling her. She can beat world champion boxers and you're like, no she. Can't why don't you use what you get? What got you to the Party? You know that you're you're you're. She didn't use it, and if you look at the three fights which he tried to stand up with people she got demolished. Mike. Boxing. Twenty one years, old does not a boxer out there. Who starts a twenty one who could hang with anybody world-class like he's boxing. Holly was a kickboxer. She was a kickboxing. Boxing, champion a boxing champion and nine time boxing champion and you think at. Twenty that you're GonNa fuck hand as. He abused her with this. That, just that her hands were. The best. It was crazy. It was it was it was wild, I mean and I. You know, Look. It is what it is. I. Mean we went over this So it came out today that year Rodriguez out of those a beat fight would socks because that would have been a fucking great. Fun. So now they're trying to find a new opponent for his a beat I. Know They were talking about Calvin Guitar that was a good fight. It was a good fight I, the beat one, the first two, or three. Beats a guy that I don't know how good he's going to do five around fights. He seems to fade in the third a little bit, and then the fights over, but he won the first two. So good I saw I was sold on on like this is going to be the champion I. Don't know and five round fight. You were sold on him. I wasn't I. It's not. It's a five. It's five rounds and I've noticed that people is a different ballgame. But then third round you see the people who turned out like I'm used example. Is, one of those people because I guess. The training, he gets actually better as those. Yeah. Yeah. I mean need also runs marathons in his free time. He. Likes. Across. Kind of college wrestling team. That was like arguably one of the worst kids team, but he is cardio was fucking insane. So he will just like pressure you for the whole time and even win so many matches. He shouldn't have won because of his Cardio I proclaimed Rita in that category of he's He. You know he's good at everything, but it's just hard to match certain guys Cardio's. Now speaking of which according to Tyron Woodley. He signed the contract to fight Colby Covington, I saw I saw, and he's going to be the hero of the world if he meets call coming in and this is his biggest fight. That's what he said. It was. The belt. Yeah, probably defending the bell to. Right. They were those were your biggest fights, but him and coby had beat. And? They've been had beef. So I think for him. He's got win this but I think added to Kobe, is cardio machine, but Woodley his like a fucking horse do. They go. Okay. Look. I've only been to a couple of barbershops right in my life, but I think you've been to a lot more than wanted me and you went to one in south central do. But everybody, but I. Remember would trying to tell me. He wanted to be the champion, the barber shops like that was his remember him telling me like he was like that was gonna be his who who they market to like the like black urban market. started. To why is that retarded? No because it would people talk shit barbershops. That's the real shit. That's what they say. But I think that he should want to be the champion. He's that he wanted to share with the world, but he was saying that the UFC was. They weren't marketing, right? He wasn't saying. Barbara's Chambi. I'm totally misquoting. Married if you hear this is. Any bar. I'm not trying to be disrespectful at all. I'm trying to say that the US was missing a certain market for him that like that would that would have been huge when he? He, they they I think the your see. Does that allow I think that they missed a lot of audience that loves the and they don't market at all to I. Know you're a guy who a lot of your shows like a lot of people that come out like are is that crowd? How big is that crowd? Is it I? MEAN, we're talking about the Michael Blacks in fact where it's like. This. Doesn't. Yeah. The kings of comedy. Kevin? Hart. Initially, if you look at my guess people that are multi millionaires sell out I mean, Chris, rock's crowd was a urban crowded I look bigger blacker and you look at it. Look not. It's it's all black holes. I think the end of the day to miss out on that giant chunk of people do love eighty and lug USC and don't even market to us like. Well, fuck you. We're GONNA market to the trump the. Brother AETNA. I'm not saying there. But maybe even like an intentional thing, ask. For that market where two, point? Eight, trillion dollars. How'd you ignoring? Two Point? Eight, trillion dollars market? I don't think it's being ignored. I just think that. I don't think it's an intentional thing I. I don't have. I, don't have. Your C feels like we're, we're the UFC come to us and say. No. That wasn't programming. If Woodley Lou. Loses becoming thin. Right. He's not GONNA lose is. Could. He go back to the barbershop? Shit. Yes, it'd be super cuts though. Be Super, cuts horse. Thank you. Personally, I think he's GonNa win because. Honestly out of the two of them, he's as far better. Both all American wrestlers I. League. It's very close. Honestly, very close, very close with I. Am this, I don't mean this as as a racial thing. I wouldn't that guerrilla strength. He does when he's wrestling his strength as Kobe. Doesn't. Kobe has some good. You know but. I think it will. See I. Think if it was a I. think if they had a wrestling match because I think coby plays top eight in the country I. Know He did and sort of Woodley, and then they are both like six or seven. It's pretty. It's exactly the same. I think it's GonNa. Be a six, five, seven, six Matt and it's tight match now Kobe uses wrestling still would he doesn't would i? Fell in love with his hands. Up Fuck example hey, asshole, but. I think that he'd be just like Cormie said the. Baby said bring your wrestling shoes. 'cause it's fucking on now. Saying, it's the most important he he might be saying. Is Career. Because this is like the fight that's going to bring either make or break him like it'd be beats colby. He's still in the top three balloons the colby. It that way. Now, that's three in a row. I mean, and it's not looking good. You know it's three in a row and guys get cut off losing three in a row and then, and now we're talking about fighting a guy who's like twelve. You know what I'm saying. So maybe it's the most important fight for him there now as far as being a hero Hobey, everyone's Hero I duNNo. I think that's a bubble thing. I think you to tell to liberals. He's GonNa be here out to Republicans. He's not going to be here. It won't some Republicans to slam. Republicans. Right now, he trump to. We saw. A, lot of Republicans are actually going. This fucking insane from last interview. The Republicans are like that wasn't the right, but a lot of liberals don't want to vote for Biden either so it it goes both ways. But not interviews creating fucking wack. They're both wacky I mean now. No they're not as wacky wants more wacky. Okay. Trump may be wet more wacky on purpose. Because he's losing his. He's A. Coherent Biden I think is better than than what trump is at the same time like I watched. Biden's last two speeches. He didn't know where he was. He's he said it's good to be here. He was in the wrong city. And then he said something and now he's making up all these times he's been arrested. Like every speech he's he's he was arrested with Mandela and arrested here. Back and none of this happens. Oh No, no, no, he's got. A younger BP, because he's GonNa, they're going to pop a balloon. He's GonNa have a heart attack and then to. Have the corruption, but I think, no trump. Out of the to since we set, you draw me into this on this God damn it. Out. I didn't see the last interview. What it drops it. On Hbo Access Yeah What Happened Oh God. He's pulling out the kids charts. Look. We're better than other countries when it comes to Kobe and the guy was like near right they. Not, I mean a thousand people dying a day. It's not good. He said, Hey, it is what it is from last shit. You WanNa say to people that their grandmother or their fucking love one died. Hey, it is what it is, and that's exactly what he said. It is what it is. What it and it was like just say if what is on and then he actually said John Lewis, who just a civil rights leader for people that don't know. US he said he said I. Guess He did a lot of things, but I've done more black people. Other than Abraham Lincoln. Yeah, he's GonNa. Stop saying I've done more for black people. I don't think that that really is endearing but. I just think that like the same like I see what you're saying if what we went, there's a lot of people that hate actually hate this. Yeah. Glad. Not that motherfucker out because they felt that way in the last night. When he lost his job I, don't know if yoga cracked or. Wasn't broken. It was the ceiling to be broken, but it wasn't, but he got cracked and I. Even though he said he wanted to fight he didn't win. He, he did not win the fight, the interview, I was watching the top ten. People who go after reps and he's in the top ten of people that could claims Reps. Harassed the reps. he actually tweet fat rats and he shouldn't. But that's the one thing I mean. There are guys that actually attack laughs. People who physically. Roy Jones I mean. What's the the guy with the beard? Big Belly. Right Nelson Roy Nelson. Now, he never went after he got up. Big John Space giving the finger at all God. Yeah. You got to see this top ten fighters that went after rest while the worst is like i. mean there were guys that like pushed rest before right on. No, actually. I think bill. BARONI did that events in Iraq? Other guys. But I. I think. Is. GonNa, win I tape wrestling wise and I think to them. Even though I gotta give it Kobe's cardio machine. He hit his heart as he really don't. He does not hit as hard but he had he has been looking better in his last fights, but he doesn't have knocked out power. No, he doesn't have nocco Woodley about what we are. So if there if it's evil at gets shot and Lance. I think. It'll be a ramp. Honestly, I've Seen Willie has what do you think we? I think it's going to be very competitive if it does happen wrestling involved, but if Kobe manages to string out past the second third round I, think he takes it the decision. I'm not sure if he gets knocked out by t would I could possibly see that happening by I would give the slight edge to call. I wouldn't be surprised if he's minus one, twenty, five favorite or something like that. I. Mean. It's a matter of what will the has left. If you fight the way, he did it last few fights. Kobe's GonNa win is. If. He turn back the clock a little bit and fights weighted against Robbie lawler or even against you get against Damian Maya You know I think I. Think what what? He's GonNa. Win. L.. Wasn't a great fight, but it was a smart fight So yeah, it depends on what he shows up. As, you have been watching some of the I. watched the last fights and I want some of the interviews I. Like watching interview, see what how people react to do you think. I WATCH FOR ME A. On top about the fight coming up. Do you think that he'd got a shot cause? I do more watch it I, go she. Of course I mean look. Accordia, always has a shot, I mean data call me. Is. It was a two time Olympian I. Mean, he almost be Kale Sanderson, who argue with the greatest calls wrestler ever think he lost like one or two points? the John Jones fight. He lost. He ended the first fight I. thought he lost three runs out of the five The second thought he was winning I was there. He was winning that fight. I called the head kick. and. You know. He's a guy that got fucking blasted by anti-rebel Johnston and came back and beat them and beat them again easier and the thing, and he fucking knockout. Steve. Bay and was winning the steep fight before he got. He got stopped I. Mean that was a very, very close fight. So yeah, of course. Now St second time off is heads a little bit unaware heads that you know. He didn't want to come back. He said he couldn't train. but at the same time. Is Long in the tooth he he's had a lot. I mean they both have crazy battles. I. Would say they both. CLA Toss up to be honest to talk show. Series Yeah. Fuck out. Of. Here. Okay. Boxing wise now wrestling wants. But. I don't know his ego. I. Think he's GonNa, Try Stan with gourmet. I mean, he's GonNa. Try the same bit. He's going. To that last time, they apologized with corner for not listening, and he said the last thing he should have done was staying with them and that he learned from his mistakes I mean. And cormet saying that he's going to wrestle, bring us wrestling shoes. So why would you stick to that? Maybe he's saying Apple, I'm telling you. I've seen his I've seen him a honestly. There was a couple of times where you stand in Romblon the. I think the first. Hit by rumble, he was like, wow, never again, which is why in the second fight and the. Of. The first, he didn't do that. And I think that when he got hit by I, think with the black beast, he like I'm not giving this guy a shot, I'm taking them down submitting them I. Don't think respect to seep as power and I think because of that, he engaged in stand up war and now he respects power and then was one of those people that. You know like a a kid that you say don't touch the oven. It's hot and they got a touch to fucking. Don't do that. Okay. Now, I'm not as oven. It's like a lot of people like that. You matter what you tell them. They're going to do it and they're going to learn, and then we'll see what happens but you still so wait a minute. So you. Know because they both that second could've either way. How I'm surprised a window. What's interesting about this is that right now the odds hab steep a as a minus, one, ten, and Cormie as a minus, one twenty. So it's very even with cormet being the very, very slight favorite. Now, I don't like betting in heavyweight fights because I've learned my lesson from betting on heavyweight fights. Anything can go down look at the past couple of nights ago we had. Had Our cards ago. We had a for brief overdue versus a Alexander last name Gustafson, I we all had stops and winning now fight, but he gets submitted the arm bar in ten seconds. So I. Never Really WanNa battle heavyweight fights can honestly see this fight going either way. I wouldn't be surprised if any of these gentlemen either one of them wins what I'm saying yeah. So I'm not only of things know my call me I think sleep is GonNa win. He's GonNa, knock him out again. It's crazy that like I always thought it was a golden gloves boxer and I always thought he'd better boxing and I still think he has better boxing, but and the first fight he knocked out St Bay and the sacrified they were pretty even on the feet. It was almost like Mike Tyson punchout game where he figuring out like he has that one button that like you hit the King Hippo, his fucking pants fall down when you gotta hit them that kind of like. What St base figured out was like, okay. This you can hit him in the body, but that was late in the fight. What fourth-round round. It wasn't our early early. Early because I think the me initially was taken into A. It was used a little bit. More wrestling. When I watch I look at wrestlers though I don't understand what the Eagle is with wrestlers I don't like if you're really good wrestler. Can Wrestle like. I WANT WANNA show. You understand on the feet, would've? been. The rest of their lives, they also know the other guys backing on the wrestle, and also it's a lot more energy. It's fucking people are lazy. But what I'm saying. To Wrestle fucking I mean boxing hard. Don't get me wrong. Because you're taking. A. Different kind of fucking exhaust. To wrestling to me wrestling to me when I. I just went from quantity Jitsu and that was it. Way Harder, but wrestling to me if you got that in your club told jet yet. You don't use that Shit. You're an idiot then. To me and I see a lot of that. Don't they give to. Stand up. With, a top striker than top strikers shows you why top striker and they get fucking house. Okay. So What I'm dealing with right now with the podcast. So, Jamal Amherst. Okay, I'm sorry, go. Hey. Amazing job. Thanks Bro. Are you free Wednesday the podcast twelve, thirty, we love to have you. Yes, I'm free perfect I'll send you the link at eleven. Thanks man, I sent them a link. Eleven he's GonNa jump on, he's ready to jump on no I. that's the link you coming on nothing. This is what I fucking deal with every single time. Okay. Sometimes they come in late or they don't like -nology order. Two o'clock. Oh, my bad, Bro We do it again, next week and I'll be like yeah. Okay. With these intimate fighters do they're always late? Always skip the interview. What is with them? There's training too hard. These guys their priorities fighting. They get punched in the head for job, they have to worry about wrestling. To all kinds of shit. They just cut way. The kid weather guys, accusers want US I. Yo- see. Syria he was like, yes, sure. He just forgot, and it's also like hard because doing it via DM, a might like, I, don't have his phone number I if it was. If it was if I had more help I'd have a person calling people reminding them and be like, Hey. You know, but I don't have to. Have somebody somebody, inbox me from one of the shows and he said you're cool. She's still wrong about a street. National yet fuck you. Is doing good. I'm like, yes, he is. You ask and then we end up arguing. But for some reason, they like to argue with you because of this, Shit. A. People that have got fighters fight plans. They. That was wrong. They feel like I'm wrong about that. He's one of the best period and they and they. I. Don't I call them. Street Jesus is. The best buy I get so many people that are like either like last time, Ahmad, listening to this show as long as you have. Zang on right. They call you Zang or not are Chang none of them though your name and then I was like I mentioned on my listen. fucking Shang. Awesome. Is One of the best comics, the world. He's funny. He has opinion and I got so many people that were like we love Shang is the only one that I. Like. So. Much Shit in. Only this last month because I personally thought that you gotta give credit. If not, if you've got six days, notice to fight one of the top fighters and. fucking mugger. Let's keep it real by your mother. Your might do that is they can actually mugged you in the. And you still do as as dead. You gotTA. Give. Them. I'd give us all for keeping entertaining at the same time like. He wasn't in the best shape. I mean, he didn't know you gotTA fight coming up and he was going to be our Dhabi. Could be tried it. But I think the casual fan watching that fight is not yearning to see a rematch. That's the problem. That's the most people are not like we got to see a rematch with that. It's just not. People are not. They're not GONNA go. It was a one sided. It was a fifty, fifty, five, maybe forty, nine, forty six, and it wasn't the greatest anyway. So Khabib yesterday respond to just engage he. He goes just a very nice guy and good opponent for me when Octagon close to be ready for not only boxing match I'm not dust emporia. Tony. Ferguson. I will take him to the deepest ocean and drown him. Jesus Christ, he's dark. That sounds that sounds like some shit. He was saying, don't you think that's a dark shift to say, I would think. You A. Take your mother further. Why can't he just drown them in a pool? Like why did they have to go to the deepest? Ocean? I'd because he's a, he's a chance motherfucker. That's why when Connor was. I was literally listening. I, don't think this is. About his family, why do you think I mean the deep associates? The deepest ocean, you can't just you can. fucking capable if you wanted to do. You find the deepest Ocean House for House weren't. Like bog man man. But did you see? He came back. He came back at it. He's really is a racist. Okay, we'LL SEE EAST EAST I. Could Eighty Bucks now? Hopefully, he has loads on, but man that that was fucking. Keiichi, he knows this is a fucking huge. Of course. He's GonNa. Do some damage. Now, three guys got spent for marijuana which. Look Tim Elliott, who fucking I liked him Elliott. Lewis Panya violent Bob Ross, they call him because he looks like Bob Ross violent. And Jemele Hill who one is eight? No. The Guy looks like he never trained in his life was like as like no bill, but just murderers. and a called, John? Jones. After six fight, this guy, he's a mother is the. Here's the. Problem. If marijuana dispensaries are open during pandemic because they're an essential business. How are you gonNA fucking suspend people for smoking weed. Like. How like come on? Like. It's All right now, like the whole world is co countries close except for dispensaries because it's an essential medicine, right? These people are suspended for weed. It's on. This is on the list. What do you mean come on I? Get I, Ju-. I just started smoking weed March. So I'm new to this. I'm telling you right now if it's on a list and you know your professional fighter, your professional finance get paid for parties like motherfucker. We have common sense here is near Commonsense. We've. No. Apples are on the list. Right. Apples, oranges. At something and somebody is an apple. So they suspended. If it's on the list. I. Mean. How stupid is that? What you're saying, but you know the world is stupid everything. Stupid. But if this is on the list and I'm a fighter, they say don't do this. I won't do that until after I might I get it. But first of all a lot of people talking and short notice. And second of all like this. So stupid I understand. If you'RE GONNA make marijuana illegal in Zaid's drug and it's banned in on the country which I don't agree with but I understand if that's where they're going, but if you're anything marijuana's legal. and. Illegal. It's an essential business. Okay. Meeting that you're you're you're fucking clothing business can open, but the marijuana business can. Buy Edibles. All right. Your Jim can open. Your Jim can't open in the pandemic. But. The dispensary can. And now you're suspended for fucking smoking weed, I mean how fucking stupid is that? I know what? It's stupid but I it I, get it like if. If I was a professional fighter and I'm going and I know that these are the parameters. But that's two different things that we're talking everything's. Talking about the rule itself, and then the fighters obeying the rule, I'm saying the rules self was really stupid. Yeah. Okay. So Santa Rosa. Is Stupid, they let people that have had fight have a horse hormones in their. Face and yet, Phil, let them fight I've seen people where you go. You know he's Reut it out of course, and but they let him fight and so I think it's Bach recy-, but there's a bunch of should just like the fucking ratings of like one guy will be twelve, and then he jumps up the fucking third and if you look at if you look at see like I i Mike in Style and he's one of the top fighters even five top can often be. Shift. That's when I doesn't make sense weaned. What do you think why thought the U. OF C. or? Whatever the athletic commissions allow a small percentage of we'd be in your system, you know what I'm saying. So. It's very interesting that they got popped because they were on short notice. I'm not sure if all more also this is the Nevada State Athletic Commission. I'm not sure what their laws are on marijuana I think we'd is legal in Nevada Yondo of isn't essential business, Nevada. But I'm reading right here. They're saying that they're most likely going to get a six month suspension, which is not like you know Nick Diaz getting banned for five years, but I mean these guys somebody's. Bucking and four times in six months, right? That is long. Just makes no sense. You. GotTa look at how they look at it. It's like look. I think you're dumb enough. took the way to Abu Dhabi and smoked it than there. Really. fucking. Stupid. You're going to fucking jail for. Years. Cut Off your arms and replace them with phones. Yeah Yeah I. I just I did a lot of professional dividers to me. It's like if I'm GonNa do this professional just like US comics. There's a certain point where you gotta go. You gotTA. Make sure you do this research that you can't do at the Club I. Don't some clubs to say, it had told me don't hit on any of the waitresses. Yeah. Connects. Comic dozen they go. Kay give book they go. Will we told you not to hit on the waitress or if you're going to do. That with the GIG and. Focus. Doing that's my independently is live for fighters because some of them, it makes them laser focus 'cause they don't have all this other shit. To deal with other ones are going. So last night I don't know if you watch looking for a fight. Dana, white contender series. There's this guy that John was talking about Jordan Levy. You. Watch it. I do not work that. He's undefeated. He's like a super flexible. He won is fight and started humping the octagon. He basically metoo the octagon. Split people say he may be easy was very flamboyant and we'll say he might be the first openly gay fighter. I don't know if he's Gay I, can't think because guy does a split boxy octagon that means he's gay. But if he is. More more power to them. But? That they feel like they might be gay. That's why you gotTA. Watch, the show. Kingdom. Yeah. On on UH athletes, and it's basically about you know intimate fighters, what they go. And I think. He, he does seem a little bit. He is, but I'm saying there's a little. Little, gamy. Cloud over. And you know I, I would take I, think he should embrace it. They gotta start on their hand especially especially, who's gay? Now. Carlos spars said, she's tired of being the gatekeeper. She wants to be a contender. She's won four in a row, the problem. Is that they've all a lot of them have been split decisions and you could argue that the other girl one. When that happens. It's hard for people to get really excited for you and to put you in title contention I hate to say. If. You won you fucking one I. Agree I agree. I agree. But. There's people that like. Are Dominate Right and I. Agree I totally agree a win is a win. But people are more excited for. like the way people are winning like the eraser. What's like Paula? Kosta, or even that Guy Johnny Walker when he was on his little tear of just putting people out or even that guy that was his name about a title shot that. Ended up losing to DC and he lost his last fight can Ozdemir Yeah, Oh, Zamir they I mean they the way he was winning. Of just putting people I mean when he knocked out Jimmy Mandla in twelve seconds. The problem is that that's who they kind of. They go. Okay. Should they buy? They should look at it. That way I feel like a win win. She is definitely wanted a top and I think she sees she should get a shot at it. Why not I mean well, right now. The championship when she wins the bill with a split decision but she. She still champion I. I agree. But right now there's there's Zang well in front of her. Mars. WanNa Jonczyk who barely losses and well or had the fight of the year. She turned it into the toxic avenger. It was a close fight. It was a very. She was get teed off on. A little bit. The power shots for a little bit more than you got Patty on us as. Tatyana Suarez. That'd be a great fight car lovers. Tatiana Suarez Boris is killed her already fought. Yeah. Oh, never mind. Rematch. Shit. Okay. What's team? How Women Women's ranking? Can You bring it up? So you got. You got those three have her after that. I think you could. You could put it in I. Mean. She's right there. He's right there. So why not give her a shot at it, but then you got the other girl. Who who? who she beat the girl from. JUST BE JESSICA I. Can't. Wait. Oh Fuck. Calvillo. Karla beat her. Do you have a screen sharing disabled? Okay hold on. All right. So we got enable multiple parents. Okay. World people dispense. All right. So He. got a ton of following after that fight. All right. So why fifteen right? So we got. We got some units. You Got Jessica drudge. Guy Claudia Catala, who barely beat Carla? So she seven should be waterson. Go Up to twenty five. Twenty five, that's what happens there. So she. Her verse Claudio. It was a good fight. I think Nina just had a baby. So she I know why she's even ranked right now. I think you should be out Joanna Killed Joanna killed car, but that was a long time ago And Tatyana Random Carla. I you know I was Carlisle Call Our, Jessica drives. because. Really well. And, then try to get to roads. But Karla beat rose that was a long time ago. I? You still have. You know you have still take that into account and I. Still Think if you look the rankings, she didn't win for the row and that's impressive I. I. Think. Sometimes people see splits incisions as well. You didn't really win win. Yes. I fucking did. Yes. You did win if decision you want and they should give her. They absolutely should give her at least alone or at least fight number two at least I agree and. Right, now, she's in a situation where if she's as. She could actually. Be Right there because you're looking for, what do we know about? Carlos. Also, mccorkell real quick about Carlos bars. Thanks could be. A gatekeeper, she got a title shot while I'm sure she will inevitably get a title shot because it was like five girls and this division. You know what I'm saying I feel like they just keep recycling the contenders for the belt by thinks, she will eventually get one if she beats on drought. I. Think that's a great fight. He's probably will be on drudge space off her briny wrestling style of I even think you'll want a rematch may be good for her. You know I don't know who you WANNA would fight next. But Damn. I know. Also. About money. It's about money and you know trying to get to the next level like I. Just looked online grunts in just one fight. His shit popped up like crazy. Yeah. On searches is following everything just went. Well. We got a guy who is the man, the myth, the legend. He's one of the funniest people. He's always level on Jay's. Has has anybody actually. How's your fundraising onto your mask to save? On still stuck at twenty five dollars, so now should give them. But I don't even know how to do that. Go Fund B. Doesn't make it easy. To, mass fucking I. Just. I can't go along with the system and like it's actually my girlfriend's epidemiologists and she has her master's. Infectious Disease and all that, and she said from the beginning, the master Joe fouts. You guys are the mass wardrobe at the beginning. Then he's like, oh, no have to wear. Now. He's saying you have to wear goggles. Plus I just like I like to look on people's faces when they're upset them not were. Afraid say anything they like cracking up or if people are too afraid this. You're giving people. More than pretty much. Y. I actually. I actually believe the coronavirus thing. Actually a big supporter of her to nudity. So I think like everybody's doing individual anyway. So I think might as well get it out of the way. I'd rather have it now if I had was. Talking about. You know what I'm saying, this isn't the. Makoko Guy, I know who repeated Andrea friend, he would never cheat on his girlfriend. He's he's a great parent He's he didn't go to the wwe because you don't want to leave his family is the kind of guy he is. He's a straight up guy with like huge morals when it comes to talking with people. It's a different level. I was like what? A Guy. Who Lives. Okay. You understand we work with. Club one day, and it was his nerdy guy that was trying to fit in with us. So it was like she went on big swam lock and we went we were in a bar guy accidentally spilled beer on some like jok bully guy. The bully guy got in the guy's face mccorkell time had a fight coming up as Ryan affliction shirt was about to sixty five. All muscle goes up to the guy. Listen the ground goes, I will walk you in the ass and there's nothing you can do about it. Right? So. I did and. Then we? We left all about was that guy picked the other guy? He after he stayed. Six hours circling the college town looking for the guy just justified him. Just fucking threatened him again this this. That explains it that explains your thing all right now. So. Attractive. Please give it up for. Only a few jokes. This week, I don't know if they're not great. I didn't quite get on but harsh south where I wanted but. I was a watch Thomas to show the other day. I was one of probably four people they've ever seen it but Thomas them a predictions and all this and. So it was watching and he's talking to tell the shoplifting story man like I was like he's like cracking up is the shop of teenagers and like it was supposed to be funny I. Guess I don't know And so it's just more proof like we got like like Krugman live that Karma always comes back yet you because. Like, he was shoplifting still store for years, and that ridden shops steals every pick and everything. He says every week industrial breakdown. So it's like you can't get away with comes back on you you now. Oh, speaking of which this. I was on. I was. Watching, rocky for the other day Alfred out what a great movie that is like. I'm a sucker for roadhouse like rocky. Road House so much that we were in a Walmart. We my girlfriend not wearing masks the other day. And we are in a Walmart, and so a group of guys that look like this. Bunch of Redneck used walking in and my girlfriend leaned over said, right boots, which I thought was like one of the funniest things the world. If you have seen roadhouse one, hundred, hundred won't get him. That's great. Anyway. So but I'll watch rocky for only I? Don't follow anybody on twitter 'cause. I'm basically only arrested my life. You know what I saw. You know bounds, dollars only follow myself Look at my stuff but. I got all there and I'm watching rocky Ford is weird 'cause. Herb. Dean. Obviously was to you know at the same time like watching it because I saw on his time line. He was like were stoppage. I've ever seen creature should have been given more time. Watching rocky for its time, he's also of course The. Last one. I. Got I. Don't know if you remember bloody elbow I think is the website they do like they're not as popular anymore that used to be, but they do like obscure interviews sometimes like with guys like where are they now and they actually got in with war machine, I actually got to be able to do a full interview with machine. and they're not the classiest organization. They ask inappropriate question. Sometimes stuff like you know the guy his position, you wouldn't want to ask you know in certain things, but they ask war machine like Is there anything he can smile about a joke about? I mean. He's prison for the next forty years. No chance to get thing and He said, I mean man look at me. I'm surrounded you know bomb lots of I'm surrounded by. You, know your rapist, you know criminals, sexual assault hours and you want me to make jokes. I can't think of anything. Funny. I've ever said. In my life and actually. Machine I thought that was Brennan Shop At. Astronaut. All the time. I made that joke up in the middle of the night. Last night and Nolan I thought. Wouldn't it be funny? If you said that she was surrounded by rapists said, it was brandon job. Dead. Cargo. Up His trade. John? Larry's now your boy, your your your best friend, not latrone is fighting Friday night against him, Johnston and Bella Tower. Off A big win. I like him, Johnson. He's from North Dakota. Is that he was a bouncer is over driver last bouncer at a strip club slash. Army veteran college wrestler, real man's man matry. Own Hints like a fucking brick shit. House. Harry's either them. I. Don't know man I think I actually. I saw the. Sign that fight or watched Some Johnson's fights and I think as epic battle between fast. On his feet forum matters. So quick man I don't know from his, you're flying football. What he is, a is not hard to down if you hold of them. But when Matt moves and when he's athletic and like really trying to stay on the move, he is possible to get a hold of militia, Ryan, Bater some superstar wrestler. But I think after watching a couple of fides I think Madam Catchy, coming. Down, s hands are fast in his feet or even faster man like he can. He can move when he wants to. Talk to him, I think learned a lot from the Ryan. Bater fight, you know the dance got to control the distance. He's got Mascot freakishly long reach also that he doesn't always use. But when he does he's hard to. Setting Vegas. A not picking you up. Oh Gosh Man, that was I, told you that you always ridiculously by knows out tells me. Hey on your train I need healthily or five days, which is never fun. Matt. Does one hundred percent while you're sparring, you know like? Him and him and L. Story as far. One day just went over and was taken many as I was But that's that's what I. wrote it out and say man I call those I'm interested to see. That's when Matt joined the black civilians and. The next day, he's like believe what happened before he been studied? Yes, you get over him too hard. He Got Mad Hitchhike spinning elbow or a need of the face, and he does not real fighting a broken up because I told you. Know you. I knew but. Yeah. So Exactly. What happened exactly I said, he said, he hit him with the inside leg. Kick a couple times too hard that easy. You know like the third time I, take it easy. You know and bathroom with his. Okay. Maybe the inside they kicked the fourth one was a little too harsh. He didn't say over. Time clinch. She started Nanning without kneepads in his ribs and elbow heading like some kind of spinning elbow, but almost to the word what. I. Guess. I'll be enough. He took off his gloves and threw out him throws like me and you are really controlling this on that one hundred, you're from across the rink, those adamant that I. started getting like a real fight everybody broke up they never. They trained again after that. But over was the most hated guide, the Black Zillions Rashad. Evans and. Anthony Johnson still like. They were. It was not a team player manny that he was a little camps like you would get there by the ring, and that's what he did. Bully everybody. But would. So funny as I said, Tom Erikson down there, they were looking for somebody with over eight on I was like I have just the guy you know whatever. You Go. Okay. So just you know Shang Tana accent was a guy back in like UFC like four. That was like one of the best wrestlers. Longest guy ever. He got never got his his just do what was just a monster of a fighter like. Is Not. Like not. Like, not that Kevin randle man like fucking. Wrestler, he's one of the people if he grants you your grand yeah. What happened? What happened? He actually beat me in my we tried jumping. We're trying with Axel time. He beat us up at the same time. You know. Randall on both of us. Trying with him like one day a week and it was all I can handle. Dude is like taking he take. Over him and Ericsson. So Air Goes Down there they were asking me if I had these fights up lesser I think, and I said I got just the guys. I. Would read it all during. No, it's probably free fifty at that point and just still in shape I mean, just like six four, just head bigger, the minds that's where we will so. He goes down there and I guess odorless spar with Mike Boxes and like fifty times that I'm not interested in in with a k. one, you know world champion or whatever. Like I'm not here for wrestling like we'll just help around with me. So I guess he he hurt Ericsson couple times with simply needs to the body like not added or whatever psycho. Minute and so They go to then Tom shoots on first the first like. Two seconds shoots on for a double Hunkin move and and they hit, they bumped heads at knocked over him out for twelve minutes while he was out. For twelve minutes, they called an ambulance is what I heard. Anyway, it's wet Tom Tom. It still has an assessment. So we had to sweat on his forehead where they didn't even affect. Tom. Tom. stood up immediately. They said over was for ten to twelve minutes. I got an ambulance there as he was waking up, you know like doing chest compressions or whenever I making sure. He was alive still, and then they didn't recipe entire time that they were there. They didn't Charlie at wrestlers talked about five grand for. For going three for the week for being down there. So he said do so. In a one hit. Three hundred dollars for. Had? Some. that. I would die. because. They said, it was bullying everybody at the time of evening. I'll tell you that ain't going to happen. Would bully lasted. Over Israel smog and yeah, I, don't. He said he'd like. A couple of by Senate. He's a SMUG asshole. I think he's a lot when he was all juiced out I. Think he was a lot and not because it steroids fall. But I think he was a lot more lockhart along with he got humbled quite a bit. Once. You're not superman anymore, you know and. That they said he's easier along with design now. But yeah, back, then that's what that's what Mitchell is. Actually uses the word. Smile. He's never such as smug arrogant prick. Now. Now out now, Sean I, you do pretty well betting on Pfizer. On. Suck it every other sport, but finds you really what do you think of eighty percent win? Been parlaying too much on that. But if I don't make on a weekend where there's you have see if I don't make eight, hundred, two thousand dollars disappointed light so. Pick over eighty percent. Right Still gambling thing, they hooked you on your not start at five, six, five, our legs. I'll get a five right of six one. The other night killed me the. Name, of guy who just lost a Brunson being right or whatever it is Adams. Edmund, yet lost by head dude. I have like seven different parlays were be at three, fight, eight, five, whatever all with the. Tar, or whatever Edmund winning, and when he lost that fight, it cost me like I lost a thousand as opposed to winning four. Felt like it was like a kill because when I actually went to sleep before that I was on sounds like these guys afforded one favorite and I was like no reason to even watch it and then I get on my account where wake up the next morning. Look at how? Whatever so. It was terrible. But tonight. Really. Really good bet. Let's go to. The AFC this week. Alexi, I'll neck Derek Lewis. I. Think Derek Lewis Man, he always Louis always finds a way. It seems like the ran especially if he's. The fighting a guy who's not very athletic. Dope with a huge punch or whatever, and I was looking at that when that's what I'm betting for. Sure. I'm GONNA heavy on Derek Lewis on that when he just. He price should lose guy should probably taken down beating But I think Lewis always just always find too late I mean I know sometimes minister like he always finds a way to pull them out. That's that's almost sure of on the upcoming Parkinson's. Derek Lewis I. Think they're Louis, but again, I. Binds. White. But. It's like the same thing. It's like a wish I would have done what I think we're. Not. Does. Not. A fuck. It wrestle to the. Time and he got he just stood up and Brian Stan was like he's doing everything technically wrong right now. But he's that strong where it, it works a mugger but I just think that. I don't know why people don't get it when he's taking that. Vince Michelle before one of his fights was eating ribs. Before Ten minutes of the fight in the locker room eating ribs. What now he lost to mark. Around at five because he was about to throw up. Like. We we dog. I. I still think. Your connection is very bad right now, but. I'm going to be the daredevils and I'm going to pick Alexi only nick to win via decision. Oh Wow I, take a chance man. Yeah. I. Mean. It's not. I wouldn't be too surprised. If Alexi. One, he beat over doom, you know give or take. Didn't look back good in that fight physically. But I would honestly think Alexi has a shop I wouldn't be surprised if either gentlemen wiz again, this is a heavyweight fight. You know anything go. Anything can happen. This guy could get knocked out. I could not doubt you know whatever can. I. Also, you think, are you of the process that with a heavyweight fight because they have such power that anybody can win at any time, but sometimes, I think you had to have a strategy and I think that the heavyweights that I I think my cane at one point is cardio was off the fucking charts and came was that guys like ought to be here with around you're in trouble. So I I don't. have any, way. At all. I, I liked their Lewis I. Think they're trying to make Derek Lewis. Star I. THINK ALL NEXT GONNA stand in front of them. Get knocked out a Chris wideman versus Omari medoff. Whiteman has lost six. A seven has been stopped instead seven Amari has won six out of seven granted. He's beaten guys not the same level guys Wiedemann's fighting. But why been says he needs a win. All he's got to do is win mccorkell who ends to site. I'm going to go with Mari strictly because I've lost on widened, probably five of those sixties loss. Win. Birds me every time to every fighting urging. But I crystal really Nice Guy. I met him back. Probably two thousand eleven really well, the coolest. Ever Man, but I don't think he wants it anymore like I. Mean I think it's been a while and see know what he was getting ready find interested. So that's off like it was his life only to talk about do then sometimes you get married, have kids man you get a little money and. And it just like the desire fades, it's hard to you know that old saying it's hard to get up at six am betraying your sleeping in silk sheets our. I was GONNA make a British job there, but I sit through be offered. Like ask. Ads. When. You're on the bus. That's truth man. It's all you're struggling and need to make it. It's a whole different, a whole different world than when you you know you have options. That's why you know thought be some guys. I mean look at you know like Honduras faded a little bit and I think if he. If he needed if he didn't have the the money he's got to be at fault floor got made a big money make like it's There's a difference between half to want to. Have a lot of times been push a lot lot further than just want something. So but I I think why? Why is probably made enough to retire I would guess this. Pretty comfortably it, I. Just think. He's just look bad in his last several I just I. Think it's Still there I just don't think. Whatever it is the the desire or whatever. To Dominic grants just tap them. Yeah. He just kind of went down. He's tough guys to be. Really you know stringy tough dude. So that is fairness to him, but it's one one point he was a world beater man like he was a. Amazing. So I'm GonNa go against the grain. I'm going to wideman. I think because he does have that fire in his ads and that that sounds weird. I should have said that. Fire. Is that fired his stomach whatever the fuck? Wherever fires wherever goes. That's what he has I think that he knows this is it and I think that's the only making stuff up and go back to his basics if he goes back to basics and he goes back to the old I I. Can't do it even though he looked for. You Right Man Portable. But I think that this is one of those was like I. got this. Is it I got because there's a guy almost. I. Think we're too much talent can see curse you. I remember Tom Ryan being his wrestling coach. He He was a guy. I. Went to his wrestling camp on the state goes and I go. You know he was a four time? All? American. In in college I think he plays top four and I go how come. You never won the nationals and Tom Ryan told me, he didn't work that hard. Like. If you could like become take fourth in the country in college wrestling and not work that hard. You are beyond how I mean. That's that's crazy. That's I'll tell you. I'll tell you who is like that Babe? Herman? If you remember him, he fought me see a couple times. Dave Herman I heard I. Don't know the true and I. I, heard he was his freshman I. You on Indiana. He was throwing around the heavyweight wrestlers. He wrestled high school, but it's eight serious. One of those athletic dudes you ever seen. Seen at six, four, two, hundred, sixty bound Joe. But they said He told the coach to wrestle want to practice, and so they said, he barely practice. Really did anything still finish like I think at one point seven in the country, a senior year without ever going to practice without ever done anything and I talked to him one time he he's trying with the department. Team. Because only metallic Albertson Indianapolis where I'm from, and I told him I day, and this is what I was like this before. But I was like thirty one baby and he's like twenty or twenty one and I told him, I said Dave listen. You got a rare opportunity like I said, listen to somebody who used to be young athletic this before I ever knew. I, would fight. Yes. Yeah. was just. Thought of that. And I said I wasted my not trough. LET building my size of people. Ask me every day you find fell. Did you do the W anything? I'd be like I just started a business like I felt like, I. Wasted I. Play Basketball in. College. and. I would send it to him and I talked to her for ten minutes. Twenty minutes given the big brother. Talk me don't waste. It is. Wake up before be looking back. Thank you know why? Why do this? Why didn't I do that I swear to God Herman tells me man listen somebody. Got Me a seat fight. I would I put some two weeks. I swear to God, I'll train so. He goes up, but until I'm sixteen or know what's the point you know? Or? Can. Hang with me. What's on? Mind you I know mine. I'm making dinner fell never played football before he. Anything, just rippled muscles. Real Athletic Twenty, one year. Old Kid. I saw Jujitsu contests or Ju Jitsu. Term. Gets. Him in a single lake, he slips out of it and gets out of it with the Bachelor and I talked about for some I know you could do back flips. You're dead. Serious. Had never done it before he just to find. Out of a similar you know and then not get worked. I complete beautiful backlit landed on his feet. So it was like. You just with that athletic. But yeah, he now he. No, he gets. He intentionally tries debate obstacle I'm over and then Philip's altercations. There's one on youtube where he got as playing. Palma. Crops. He gets all the cops what I don't know that you're actually a waste obser- when there's like four cars with their lights on identify yourself trying to get. Settled of was going to. That one. million. Harassed I was just out sleep like open I live in a decent neighborhood I got walking around just fratricide at my headphones on a tank top and shorts on walking and I see this top start following me. a stall to provide twenty five minutes and I'm just like just I mean. Club and asked if you want to you don't, you don't stop Hummel wild animal or something you know and he old up and asked me if I lived the neighborhoods you're so right goes back my house point. So let's asked by fresh. If I've been in a car into the fighting was while I'm sitting there, I start a muscle traveling a Charlie horse, really bad Malaysian like really bachelor son Jerky movements like I gotTa, whatever it is you on something like it's like I'm. Sorry, but I really wasn't ready to shooting or something. He was asked to wear a this talented Amanda. My cousin used to be like a police captain down here or whatever But. He's worn. It doesn't help say my name I was being a former C. fighter or chargeable crime, your whole life or being white like I would think at least like. That was good girl but now. I won't. Be White Rich. You saw that who you? Never No. I've been stopped probably five times in six months police in this. One is. Stop walking from liberal to the kitchen. Yes I cast six times. We. had. admitted. committed. The podcast chill? No. No, but it's funny that you say that 'cause I, literally, it was like maybe a month ago I got pulled over. But I was. So it was still like a man. You don't just go to store and I was real nice and trying to be real nice as that is to go really left and the guy was actually nice. you one out of about a hundred, right? You don't money. We were talking. We're arguing about everything and were saying Bergdahl contract and whatnot Umbono. I was thinking about I was thinking afterward. Why am I so broke released is probably twenty cops never positively like ever never thought every time. I've been pulled over the guy, a Dick to me every time I've been nice. have been like I'll just joke with a cop and line is gas station. It'd be like you know make a joke or whatever. They give me a dirty look. You know whatever might look like affirmative. Wearing, a mask coffee, your face. What's wrong I? Don't WanNa but. Vialli weaned dog Wiedeman Omar who wins. Going to side with Shang on this one, I'm going to pick Chris Wideman to win via decision. The reason is because Ach met off of a lot of his fights especially as past like eight fights of all been decision, and you know he's not like this vicious striker like everybody who's Chris has been fighting recently like look everybody crisis fought dominant. You Know Are Associated Romero loop rock with these guys are savage strikers and I think like a hard brining. Is What Chris Needs Right. Now I think he can pull off this decision when. We are on the same page. We'll see picking. My I like no one's. Listening is this this? Your big. I. Don't want him to get mad agree. I don't know the. Anytime. Burden shop would fighter tramps. Brown I would bet like five hundred dollars, all that way if walls could still up like, okay. Lose lift. They won I make five hundred dollars ninety. So what the? Away. Lost every time listen. Thank. You got. Thanks so much for watching the podcast. You guys are Awesome Sean, Jake, Air Chang take excrete that. two-day sounds to. They did.

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Ep. 2,859: T.J. Dillashaw and Ricky Lundell

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Ep. 2,859: T.J. Dillashaw and Ricky Lundell

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