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Monte Carlo memory lane: Our 8 MOST EPIC moments including Nadal's La Decima, Gasquet-Federer upset and Djokovics 2013 title streak-stopper; ATP Player relief fund proposal; Murray-Novak chat on Instagram; Laver Cup postponed

The Passing Shot Tennis Podcast

59:14 min | 8 months ago

Monte Carlo memory lane: Our 8 MOST EPIC moments including Nadal's La Decima, Gasquet-Federer upset and Djokovics 2013 title streak-stopper; ATP Player relief fund proposal; Murray-Novak chat on Instagram; Laver Cup postponed

"Thank you ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the passing shot. Murray and DJOKOVIC LIGHT UP. Instagram postponed till twenty twenty one We remember some of our favorite moments from Auntie carly everyone and welcome to the passing. Shot the tennis pocus by fans for fans with your host Joel in today's episode. We're going to be taking you through some of our favorite moments from Monte Carlo. On what would have been finals day at the Monte Carlo Country Club elsewhere will bring you some of the big talking points. Coming from Andy. Murray and Novak Djokovic instagram session. This was an update from the tennis. Well this week including the postponement of the Labor Cup but Kim first. Let's start with Murray Novak Chat Friday evening had a long week at work and it was a very pleasant and nice way to kind of start the weekend. It was a conversation. I think that they had admitted they had no actually. Despite having these rivalry kind of gone for so long they never actually sat down. Had a chat with each other. So it's really pleasant kind of have that moment almost kind of be able to share it with the yeah. It was nice. Isn't it just them is kind of mates. I suppose just having a chat and that means Joe. They were clearly listening to fashion episode causing show that we did last week because the conversation turned at what point stand. Mann's excellent shorts that he won railing. Garo swift say clearly. They had tennis fashionable Nemo. And like we had I thought was funny because Jovic said if SAM was watching he should burn they shorts And I think she was watching because he did like At one point in the essay they show it during the right and guarantees e Mont. They say he called exactly. Yeah but maybe he's got a spare pair at home. I did love the fact that other tennis players joined didn't as well as kind of your general fans as well and it was kind of great to see some of those responses for some of the topics of up light stands short. I think curiosities Sleeve Kobe. Bryant tattoos was brought up as well say it was great to see you the kind of everyone kind of getting together and having a little bit lobe. Ever sit down because as you said. It's like you know these guys that you know. Generally speaking when we see them together is a head to head. It's a competitive environment and it's nice to have made like this. Where is a level playing field and just kind of talking as mates and I think some of the I think one of the big talker boys are one of the things they were discussing? Was that perfect. Tennis player. Agai through different sort of aspects of a tennis player. And saying who who they would like I found the most interesting thing was what they were talking about. Back cads returns of Sunday said they would prefer each other's each of his back. How does over time himself? Which I thought was quite interesting. Well I am being humble respect. Fourteen each other or was that the rule. They just couldn't take themselves so therefore oversee he would pick the the the wouldn't because they generally speaking I would say they are the best return for example. I was surprised. Jovic didn't pick rough maybe physical as well as mental. I thought maybe he was trying to like spread his His pigs around today. I'm I'm not sure but Pretty much agreed with all of their old of that picks picks along the line. But Yeah I mean. It's nice as well just to see them like eating because these guys. Yeah we we see them competing against each other. The end of the day the players get on say well the friends of each other and they must be missing that kind of camaraderie of being on the tour as well right now so. It's nice to do something like this isn't it and the fans can join in and and get as well exactly. Maybe maybe we'll do a future episode on talking about how we would build and structure our perfect tennis players. But that's just kind of give a listeners. Feeding catch it the the run through of what they they fought was that kind of perfect tone. Spy Say Novak Djokovic serve was either it was kind of between John is ner nick carry US return. Murray four hundred went for the Dow poetry full hand with a backhand Murray Volley Federal Man Tuna Dow and then physical yet domain Tame Strike David Farrar. An- Andy Murray Chose for his. I mean no surprises. He kind of went for seven. Apothecary else is now return. Novak Djokovic forehand rough on the Dow back can Djokovic Volley Federal Mental Nadeau Physical Jakovich. Maybe we should do. Yeah maybe we'll do an episode construct. All perfect I thought the one thing just looking at one other things maybe interests me is the Jakovich for his forehand shows. Really flat four hundred we've portray whereas Murray of C. Wet for the Dow's complete off the the massive credit four top speed and You know high. The showed is thought to be interesting. They chose different different approaches for different shots. I'm really surprised that she didn't pick carriers for you. Know his mental attitude. I mean a car. No match and why. They wouldn't have picked him for that. But maybe maybe they went for his his underarms. Maybe referencing that but yeah anyway in Albany Joe as slightly more serious thing is pays ad. It's come out but there are plans to play a relief fund fula ranked class. You're going to struggling a lot financially. current current time so jovic revealed on Friday that the plans for that player. Relief Fund would generate moving full million dollars. But the way they're going to do it will that outlining how they would do it. Is that everyone in the top hundred singles twenty doubles which country based on their ranking? Say for example those players in the top five would donate thirty thousand dollars each and then kind of below down the rankings. You go the less you would need donate into the prize ports. Not Too sure I mean I think is a great idea passing. They obviously is a lot of talk saying players shouldn't have to be helping out all the players like it's about. Atp tool they should be doing this. It shouldn't be a problem the players themselves to have to do this. But I think it's really nice initiative and I think the top players do have some responsibility to initiate something like this. Yeah I think it's it's an interesting one. I think it's a good place to saw. Obviously it's the intent. Is that to kind of help in that. Coastal of collective spirit. That kind of we're all in this. You know the the top players of their own initiatives kind of going on as well And Yeah it's very interesting. I feel like this is going to be a big is going to be a big talking point. It could open up a lot of. It is a kind of worms. I think a lot of people are going to have their own opinions and already kind of those opinions A different is like how great it should be on a sliding scale of of ranking or should it be something it should be something else. Is it Fatou on ranking? I think is one of the biggest kind of conversations and I think kind of doing something like this kind of highlights. The you know that wetness. The players ranked lower down need financial support. But you know. Is there an argument to say? Well you know how we got into a situation where we've needed a global you know global pathetic figures passive as the corona virus to to make to make something like this happen. Yeah I agree because eat at this. I mean how long term will make everyone take a more serious look at the pay structure with antennas? I know it's been on the agenda for a couple of years but hopefully this'll be kind of like the final push to actually make it much equitable. I mean the issue with this sliding scale was the the amount that they're sort of saying should be pushing Like ranking its way is to disproportionate. Say someone who's to one hundred in the world is actually going to be doing much. Larger percentage of their income than say joke rich in federal at the top of the game so therefore maybe it should be done. Just how much you could actually afford to give Or if you're going to do ranking perhaps what would be fair is to do on like ranking. That would be from the last couple of years. Like an equalized average ranking because a lot of players like for example Dan Evans. He's just going into the top thirty. He's just go back. He's not going to have an awful lot of money from top tournaments that he would be like Able to access at that ranking like. It's all very new to him. So as conversely other place he would be in the top one hundred and then maybe a much lower at the moment because of injury but yet they would have a much more financial capacity to give a bit more or to treat this. Obviously no system is perfect. It's like a new idea. They're going to have to. I guess. Run three these issues but the inspire. The idea is very nice but I think perhaps they just need to kind of streamline and make kind of sense of some of these inconsistencies are going on. Yeah I think as you said I think conversely people like Jack Circle people who've gone on the rankings. He had to get have had. That had that moment and made a lot of money. Jacksonville finals power. Small says etcetera. It doesn't feel like he would benefit that much. For this sort of your relief fund this kind of Aimed at plays. We'll have similar rankings. Maybe around him. I think it's kind of like this. Does this effort from the players but I think also needs to be from the tournaments as well And it will be interesting to see you know. I told him it's like you know Wimbledon for example whether the prize money whether they still kind of look to distribute that to players on notice spin some sort of chatter and some talk about you know first round prize money being distributed to make sure the players. Because I think if you if you don't support these players farther down we might get into a situation where they might be more vulnerable than ever say of them. Kinda going down roots of match fixing and betting which we know that kind of tennis has a history wave when you know we will not repeat itself but this might be. This feels like a moment. Where if we don't do something? It might lead players to yet. It's kind of desperate desperate. Meshes Yeah and how many are going to be able to stop again? When when they're allowed to you know there's a lot of investments and expenditure that go into just traveling the tool so some players might just find that they they just cannot afford to stop again. Say Yeah I mean I think they're all various other schemes. Think the WGN for someone has a loan scheme going on but in reality I think the criteria for as she being able to get financial help. You know isn't kind of what they say. If that makes sense it's you have to meet certain criteria and it's audit and I think this is. This is a step in the right direction. So that's a positive thing. We'll read bit as much positive news this weekend right now. I suppose one other thing Joe. That's been announced this week In relation to make arenavirus is the Labor Cup has been postponed to twenty twenty one so not a big surprise is just the latest in series of events. Go oversee this is an exhibition. So it's certainly not as Important as for example the slams and it was going to coincide with the newly scheduled French shape and so I guess it's just for the best now that Labor has decided to kind of delay For Year yes. That's still a pall of became a just. I think there's going to be any bladders played this season. But let's say Fidel there is a as as you said. I think he is completely a completely makes sense. The you know the priority is given to Grand Slams and and kind of tour events and you know as much as we want to see kind of labor carpet and you know it's it's been great. You know the the additions we've had so far As much as I will not continue. Yeah the there was kind of a time and a place in. Unfortunately it doesn't feel like twenty twenty s is eight time and Boston is not the place for for the Labor Cop and yes they postponed it to September. Twenty twenty one. Interestingly Federa has already committed to playing it so we will be seeing him at the Labor Cup and he will be forty years old. Wow I mean he's going to have to do an awful. Lo as a as a as an ode bad isn't he if he wants to win the Olympics and winning Wimbledon things the Labor up? But you know he's proved wrong safer in many ways. So why no. It's just adding to his his challenger motivation. I suppose and yeah as you say I think with Ted. This is because it's such a boost for isn't it and the tour say worldwide probably arguably the sport is most affected by corona virus. It is not played just within one nation. So perhaps we'll see national tennis circuit. Start up again. Countries are able to do that so players. What beyonce just play like? I don't know a German circe or something for food. Jabeen plays all South Korean second. I'm just trying to think of countries Handling this situation a lot better than others I think for label tool like Tennessee. Justice is so heavily. Impacted as as a pasted. Perhaps other sports but yeah anyway Joe. Let's move on because we're going to be talking back through sort of taking a trip down memory lane like we did with the Miami Masters this weekend it would have been the Monte Carlo final today. We're recording this. So we thought we'd look back on some of the most I guess groundbreaking or imported Monte Carlo. Maimon Save for the last few minutes kid pick movements Yeah Yeah Yeah. We did this year with Miami. Said he listed. See I wanNA take a trip down memory lane with the Miami mosses if you scroll back On the on the podcast you'll be able to find that episode but yet today we'll be looking at some of our favorite most epic moments from monte-carlo now came in research this way. I've tried to tried to incorporate that have included Nadal. It just feels. It just feels like every baby everybody we could talk about some sort of connection or leg Doubt because it is his tournament Federer Has Holler. Dow Has Monte-carlo. This is. This is how this is how in my won't call a his shake shit shaped itself over the last sort of over the last decade or so. Yeah Compete agree. I mean as a big rectified myself. for me win just two tournaments in one year than I so for me in my mind. It's always Roland Garros and Monte-carlo because they all like his homes thing where he feels most comfortable you know in the clay and overseas won. An awful of boss Lane isn't rains but these two especially all the ones that stand out. So yeah it's very hard to avoid Avoid Rafeh Summary of of stuff this week and and of course monte-carlo this is the star of the European classes and this is the first big clay court tournament Masa series level. You know we've Madrid and then rhyme farther down the line so this is kind of a really important for all players kind of important tournament to kind of get off you know on the on the best possible in the European clay swing and so yeah. Let's let's talk three some of the what we think. There's some of the most epic moments from Monte. Carlo is recent history and I guess the kind of thirst Maimon we have to kind of talk about is of course. Raf on the Dow his first monte-carlo title. Of course he's won. A Lot said spits yet. He won his first title so in two thousand five exactly kind of fifteen years ago. I think Of a today or yesterday he was eighteen years old He faced Gamay Korea in the final. Actually and this was back at a time when they matches over kind of five sets and yeah he came out. In enforcer six three six one love six seven five which you don't you don't see very often di Natale bagels. I'm on a clay cor. Say I feel like that school nurse called B. What makes his bachelor's fascinating is the fact that yeah the Dow the Dow did lose six love but I think I think the biggest point for me here is that you know. This was almost kind of a this moment. This final was kind of a passing of the torch between you two great clay-courters and Gloria I think arguably for kind of few seasons. Yeah I think the the before he got to the French Open Final. You know he was kind of like the the king of clay pre now and this match for me almost kind of was that moment way changed from couriers the King of clay actually Nidal's hair and he's ready to take a ready to take over that mantle. Yeah I mean if any we knew like often needed after rough is I want to get any water. That time could think Oh Weena Louisiana's later he would be deeded. Wadden the twelve hundred hours eleven Montreal as for example it just would have been unthinkable at the time. Yeah Oh say what's interesting? We discuss this on Miami episode a couple of weeks back but in a rough ahead come just recently come out of the Miami final against federal and Rafa had been like two sets to love up against federal. He'd been four in the third set in that match before federal came back to within five. So I think this sort of Bagel in the third set this Walpole that rough ahead against Korea in the Montreal. If I know I guess there was something in his mind thinking. Oh am I going to like check again from Jeez? That's the most as Fino is it? Is it going to happen again? And I think he said afterwards that the match with already helped him in in in this final because he was just made sure not to lease focus and let the lead slip so I think like that was it. Just showed his. He was growing from every single match in every kind of new experience. He was having these. The gang deepen these mosses offense but just eighteen years of age and obviously that year verdict cowers turns up and say this is a good portent of what was to come eat eh without six weeks later or say also fascinating about these new dot com coming onto the scene in and winning. These two is the fact that it wasn't like he had like a few seasons and it was making the second round third round kind of getting to grips with the tournaments. And then and then kind of making the leap. It was caught doing this straight off the bat at eight hundred year old just going into the tournament and and winning it and this is something you don't you don't hear about really particularly on that scale you know a kind of a master's level and against players like yeah gamma cars. Who said he was? He was the king of clay and kind of watching some of the clips of an unusual cheap and classic sort of baseline baseline to baseline matchup. And you can kind of say how that kind of both of them had those qualities that you could see why they were kind of cool with the King of clay. I it just kind of felt that in the Dow was going to be the king. Yeah definitely I mean it's just. He is untouchable. I like to go on. I mean at least you know. Obviously he hasn't won. Every single matches ever played on clay. People have beaten him on clay. Of course Some of which. We'll talk about shortly but yeah. I mean monte-carlo at the two together perfect combination in my in my eyes but Joe Interesting federal at this time was was of sea world number wadden very very dominant very few rivals on the tool. Adam de on next movement is is she. What happened federal at this tournament in two thousand and five because he is? He hadn't progressed very far in this tournament because he lost to a a young up and coming Frenchman. Reshad gasquet gas gay. Which was I remember? I remember watching this match from my from my living room on the TV and it was just such A. It was such a breath of fresh air. You know this this Guy Richard gasquet. He has done. He's done some things in his crib but when he kind of came onto the scene. Seeing that single handed backhand for the first time it was such a just a such a sight to behold to cut of thought it was just so memorable the way that match finished he won the third set tiebreak ten ten and he. He won with a backhand down the line. And if that is a quintessential way for Richard Gasquet to kind of finish to match. I don't yeah that matches. It was quite an epic. Wasn't it could get a go to either way and we saw coming from both players and I mean gasquet. Yeah it was always you know he was in the same generations Ruffini. They were both eighteen. So actually this told me it was pretty important because they base kind of came onto the scene and we go to see so if maybe the future of tennis was going to be like suddenly federal had rivals and it's interesting because see Russia's career went one way and gasquet is kind of didn't quite get that I mean. He did have a lot of pressure on him from the French. Press especially lauded him to be the next thing and I think he ever quite managed to do. I mean I agree. I think it's I think after this tournament I think you know the the press. The tennis media were speculating. Hey needling gasquet of of we are watching you. The future number one and number two players on the tour and I it was kind of light. Yes yes for one person. Not so much for the other but That's kind of take away from this moment and the fact the federal this season I think he went something like it was something like eighty one and four or something is reckless losses. Were very few and far between and I think that's kind of what made this movement say APP. It was the fact that here. We Harry is wild number. One you know on King on top of his And Richard Gasquet this young up and coming Frenchman comedy onto the say. No one really knows a lot about him I think he I think he played the previous year and he sucked in early on. Well he just come through. I think at fifteen he say. Three days earlier he'd breaks heat qualified for that ornaments. I think that was really the first time the world to him so he had a form that he managed to qualify without a set three years earlier but this was a he's big may even yeah eighteen and it was. It didn't really get any occupied team. Really get any better for him. I mean we talk about you. Know Ah saw you never really. I guess a really great win and this is you know in a tournament is have you beaten Federer? Nfl The same event and gasquet had that opportunity. In Monte Carlo Federal then he came up against Nepal in semifinal. Actually was Santa. Break up to Wilson able to kind of plow the by. I don't know if a federal matule tickets to his tickets told him you must have been quite tired guy to court with Rafeh reports. I think for me. Yeah ICAN looking back on kind of gas gays career now It feels like this was. This was probably the best matchy he played in his career meandered more than one of them. I would say I would say say. He had quite a lot of trouble. Closing matches out and eat. Always be one of those players. He wouldn't quite trust across the finish line and I guess at this point in his career he was a bit more fair less than went for an eight year old in the third tie-break he was able to to gave without finish line. But we haven't really seen him since. Then you know at the crunch of of the match the at the end Besam. Yeah not she. Federal did say off the match. He said he didn't know if gasquet would be able to produce kind of the lights out Tennessee. He did still on that day. Say which our guest is true. I guess it hasn't managed to maintain that so the full Ray Go insane and he did it and federal laws which is a big shock at the time and I guess the base is probably the most telling statistic of your kind of casquets career. And how almost kind of plateaued? Before he kind of make a dent on the very patchy loans of the rankings was gas gays kind of head to head against the dial in azoff. Twenty twenty. He's open sixteen against the Dow and two two and eighteen against federal. So I think that speaks about you. Know Yes that. This may was so happy because he went on to achieve. It was kind of like he got so far. Be Each. It just was not a not so of level. Maybe we people were expecting him to get to based off you know based off of this tournament. Yeah no show on trade to know the other match. He beat federal. Because I can't think of off the top of my head but listeners but how she can help us out with this was I think or something like that. Maybe we want to say it was. I'VE INDIAN WELLS WILL CINCINNATI. Be Completely Wrong. Messes up your head. Kp vetere but yeah. There is a kind of a another moment for me. That was really epic just into kind of a match monte-carlo but came obviously you're ratified. You probably got many moments from Monte Carlo. And you're GONNA YOU'RE GONNA. You're argue to me. What what what may view in in in the Dow was was great Fi. Well every year the wattage come on. Now I mean I've I've got a couple but I have to start really with the first time. I think that refer played Federer at Monte Carlo. So this was two thousand six and they paid three. Monte Kali finals in a row actually see referendum. All of them to this was kind of the first Paul of the first final in two thousand six and it was only the second meet on clay actually and it was. This was a pretty pretty place financially in terms of out of three they had it Monte Carlo so it was four set so this time they were still playing five-set most as far as I know exactly when they would it change but we have six two six seven. Six three seven say accept full set tiebreak. So it's almost four long match. Which as she does seem a bit crazy Formosa's final now but yeah it was. It was the second meeting on clay. I think it kind of solidified for me. Rafters dominance a federal on the clay. Because he beats him at Roland Garros in the semi finals the before but I think yes she can beat someone wants to do again is obviously it just again and again and again and then it went on the less chance vetter had of of beating reference lab basically for me as well? You know. This isn't just Rafeh winning and being of great so me eat a federal never has won the Monte Carlo title and this mattress will be the closest he came you know get into the final word and get into four sets of Rafeh and if there was never one to our? He's he's lost all of his finals. He's being in the tournament of C. Three to reference and one to stand a bit later on but Federer's yesterday the Bay Tournament for Federal. I guess it hasn't helped. He's he came up against refereed. Release Finals but I think this is really just showed that you know. I'm sorry federal there. You may still be waiting a while and you lose an awful lot on the tennis court but own clay you all setting the world number one. I guess this match just helped cement not going forwards. This was a time when it felt like literally every final of significance was federal versus Nadal. And I thought I did my research. This baby and I was looking kind of the other clay court finals. They hadn't few. I think kind of a few weeks later in the in the Rome final the had an absolute bond stormer which was again maddow coming out on top in a five hour mini epic five sets seven five in the in the final set tiebreak. Dowell and Gaydos got looking at the g cheap and party. This was the match that Todd bosses fighters for best of five to three sets the year after in Monty Python. It was like a razor set straight-sets rougher than say base age was intimately as ridiculous on the League for girls to Pay Five F. I knew in the mosque is a bad and I. I think they made the right call on that one but yeah. I think these sorts of finals a federal dow went four hours in Monte Carlo. And then they went five hours in Rabia. It was like it just shows you. How a traditional clay court tennis and when you have your really fast combat lighten Adele Light Roger Federer Nicole in the peak of that in the peak of that powers is back in two thousand six. It was never going to be a match that was straightforward and it felt like it had kind of momentum swings you know when you know one one one set and the other one the other side and it really felt like it could have gone either way kind of you know. Even Connor that full set tiebreak. It felt like so far like on a knife on a knife edge to the very very last moments and again it could very easily have gone have gone five. Yeah and I think to be federal erasmo specialist to to kind of beat the number one and half these epic battles at batch isn't come through them. Say Oversee meant a lot to reference never ivory of c shaped occupies their careers and inspired them to both become better player is because I think over that period of time two thousand six two thousand seven two thousand eight. They played yeah and astronomical number of times and it was almost like every week. We were getting treated to this federal battle and at the time. I mean I guess with each passing match. It became more more significant. What we what we were getting but when you look back or anything of that really what was like the Golden Age. I guess of the rivalry because it was just they were playing say frequently a I guess you know. Obviously federal career especially on clay would have been so much. We'll say very different if Rafeh hadn't of been there because you know in recent years he's been skipping the clay court season hasn't nee and was he won garrison two thousand nine but Paul from referee has been his his bogeyman on the clay. And I guess Monte Carlo just kind of demonstrate as well you know. Federal is never won this tournament and most probably would have done. Obviously if he hadn't come up against Raffarin three of these final. Say were yeah. It's And I'm sure that rain final that ding-dong they had will be on that when we come to review a couple of weeks not one as well. But let's let's move to all next paper because again this is one of your have your moments and this is. I GUESS EPIC. Nece to it because because you are actually there for yes probably seems like a bit of a run of the bill match for me this like a personal moment because it was the first time I went to Monte Carlo and it was two thousand twelve and breath for one the ornament played Novak in the final but this time this was kind of the era where nave out was just beating you. Everyone he'd had amazing season in two thousand and eleven is every time he played. Rafeh rapper based in these couldn't get in because I think he'd lost yes. He'd lost his last seven matches against Jovic including the lost three slam finals. So as a fan myself that like looking forward to the final. You've referenced joke which I thought. Oh go she is going to be Jovic again isn't it and I thought well if if African just got one win against him you know and clay like they soupy great like and I just I just thought. Oh you need to like stop. The role needs to kind of end. This this losing streak with navy and I was kind of ood prepared for some really intense like stressful match but it was from it was very serene it was six three six one straight-sets and me and my friends were just sitting there like. Oh we can just celebrate now. It was very enjoyable pleasant afternoon. And it for me. That was the first time I've actually seen rougher win. A title live as well. I of final had been T- with Heyman say it was just a really nice personal moment for me and I always wanted to go to Monte Carlo and if anyone thinking about gang when everything's back up and running and you haven't been then do because it's the most beautiful tournament. I think he could gate kids Stephanie. Right up there and I would happily go to every year. Forget but I think in the match itself it was very run of the mill but I know Jacovic was struggling. I think with some personal issues that were going on at that time. So of course. It certainly wasn't anything a genuine matchup. 'cause Navy was very off a but I think for me it just as a side from being a personal way but I just think rafferty needed this as a confidence boost going into the classes and that year because I think he just be left quite demoralized by nave domination over the last year. Yeah if it felt like if if he was going to break that losing streak was going to happen in Monte-carlo 'cause this was you know this title number eight wasn't it forever. And he had he had now built up this kind of aura that when he played in Monte Carlo Hey was narrowed an invincible and say even when someone is good and as great as Novak Djokovic steps on on the face up against him he would still kind of a on on the Monte Carlo. He would expect to kind of come away You know and win. Say I think that for me is kind of why this is epic is kind of like it it? It stop the raw and yet if almost felt like he needed to it had to happen had to have happened at Monte Kali. Yeah completely agree. And as I said before for Rafeh fans. I'm sure any day. Monte Carlo is is you know you feel like is extra special for him to retain not dominance there and to get to there and yeah I mean it's just oviously Yeah I mean it was just I. I think I mentioned a couple of episodes that I had some clay from the core of Karla. It was this way you got it from. Yeah go into the cool after is a nicer of chee-chen FDA up yeah say yeah. Many many foreign memories from from one Scott well came. It hasn't all been serene for Nadal at Monte Carlo and I think the movement not serene that serene this was broken was In two thousand thirteen Novak Djokovic. She was kind of well number. One time ended his eight year winning run at the Monte call him masses beat him in straight sets six two seven six For me as a said it kind of as because of this or that Nepal had had built up. It felt like the Dow Cave Klay. It felt like evacuate stolen his crown because the sort of infants ability. The Nidal had kind of go from Monaco. Carlo I think he was forty. Six consecutive matches one in the tournament. A Novak comes along kind of stops the stops that streak and you takes the crown from him. It was it was a big deal. It was a big moment. You know now dow leasing it Monte Carlo. I it's it's the start of the clay season you know. People are always going to wonder who is he at the peak of his powers. I'm not sure can they can could Novak Djokovic do it. Yeah I agree and I was actually at this final as well say. I was a bit like okay. Had One win you lease so rough a win the before fair enough. Novak and have this one but yeah it was a bit like Oh reference finally lost a Monte Carlo but it has to happen at some point and I think sometimes the thought of is worse than actually is when it happens and yet navy totally deserved to win this matchy. He was the better player and He was just say much more improved on the final from twelve months before and I think at the time. He was also carrying bitcoin injuries. They have done that and not be perhaps physically present as well was very impressive for over. Asli he has gone on to win. Burn Garros and reach several other road and gas finals and he is an exceptional player. So it was probably well-deserved. He won Montreal at some point. Especially at you know he does live in Monte Carlo as well so he feels like I guess it's a home from home for him says a nice moment for him to win. Win Not Setting. Yes yeah I think he was? I think he injured his ankle. Something in a Davis Cup Tie. Serbia before the tournament say was up in the air. I think actually where he was going to play. Which makes it even more incredible that he won the total. I think he lost like his first three matches tournament of Ood went three sets and I think it going into the final. You would have obviously backs in the dollar and the fact that you know. He came away win in straight sets. A I think you can have almost kind of. There's no sort of as no if issues. I feel like you. You would have wanted a ball. You would wanted to see a more kind of a closer final but the fact that you the achievement. I think is what makes us may epic the fact that yeah. He broke the forty. Forty six match winning streak at Monte Carlo. Obviously I think for me. You know you lost monte-carlo what does this mean for the French Apron. You know you think. Oh is he. Is He not going to win? Anything on clay this season but you know he went onto win the fretting. That was yeah. That was the year he played. Farah and the French Open final. What happens Jovovich and not? Just think over the referee semi in that that was it. I remember yet okay. You didn't sort of as much as you remember where you were. I think I was hiding in a copy at work. Checking the live schools in my pain during that semi final say. Yeah but oversee eat a revocation through and one writer Garissa Anyway so it was sort of disastrous. I'm yeah the well the next moment. We'RE GOING TO DISCUSS. As Roma's ten victory at Monte Carlo which it was very very important for the history books because he became the first player in the open era to win the same. Atp EVENT Ten Times Oversee he then went on to complete the Decima. You know ten titles at and also at the French Open so. This final was very straightforward. He played a Albatross Romo which Ramos Vanilla in in the final which You know I think it was. It was hoped it was going to be a rougher. Vavrinec final. I think Stan lost in the Semis Raffles. I came through against David Goffin Which was a match. The is remembered? I guess all the wrong reasons because those kind of a key moment and I think golf on was a break up in the first set and then like the umpire. Cedric Maria. You like basically kind of Abc Took it upon himself. Almost got to be a villain of the piece and point replayed when the Dow was having no qualms about it and essentially golfing went from. I think forty up to three O on and it was just kind of it. Just kind of snowballed from there and it was kind of. I guess kind of the players. The we've been talking about the Dalit Federa- a joke of it. You have come kind of rule nidal jock vitry comes kind of ruled Monte Carlo shelves the other players have kind of made them up but let Decima I mean ten. Titles that is that is a phenomenal. Achievement is something that we you know. It's very is very reckless and to see happen three times in one clay court swing is in is incredible and again. It's it's one of those where I think what makes it. Epic is the the history of the Mo of the achievement not necessarily the match itself because the final was a bit of a blowout. I mean six one. Six three seventy six minutes. That was absolutely no way not going to be losing to las in in the semifinals and sorry in the in the final and I I it was again it was it was. Kinda like this point. The Dow his or back because when you went into that franchise in such great form and I think he had lost lost thirty five games in home. It just shows you that this Casey's an Rafeh backed is invincible. Best K. was extremely Doberman wasn't dot year this thousand and eighteen if I'm if I'm Ryan and was just completely completely. I'm for Undergrad. I think R- Lost Claes in wars to team in Rome but then rather beat team in the final of the French. Open that year. Say Yeah Paul Albert rumour that he only had one thing coming in that Sunday off knee. Monte-carlo would have been allowed to to beat Rafa on that day. Something that would be. That would have just being greedy. Routing Refahs Decima But yes no this was. This was a lovely lovely moment forever or knee historically courts of of Monte Carlo. And yet again just just not ching these titles up like nobody's business but very important numerical. I suppose achievements on this one and that was that was in a game that was in two thousand seventeen on and on the old route on to that to that title amazement. Next maybe not one for British fans is another again match I can recall was Rafeh versus kyle up and in inbound to In roundtable the twenty seventeen months caller again. This was a moment. I think it was epic because I didn't think we realized at the time 'cause Rafic county came through in three sets but like looking back on it and you know this place as Rafeh would eventually have looking back on that match. Edmund really pushed to the limit and you know it went kind of deepen that kind of you kind of left. Wondering how is we're GONNA CRUSH OUT IN MONTE CARLO? Before before the final yeah obviously. Gi Joe Twenty. Call a number of times And Yeah I genuinely thought rougher was going to lease at one point and that was like you know I mean obviously I wanted to call up and say well you know for a fan oversee of call. It was quite nice. Does she play at British players. So you didn't get that very often. I think in the round before kyle had out. She'd taken out Donovan. So I think when I look to the rule before I sort of you know flew out Monte Carlo or whatever obviously oh he's going to face either way am whoever it's going to be and yeah interesting this much rough obey Gold Edmund in the first set. So you thought okay. This is going to be a walk in the park and then Edmund. Just tell you we just thought well. I'm going to gave this now. And you know. His full hand came out. And you know just everyone was kind of like. Oh He's this guy. Oversee got the crowd support because they wanted to match and yeah took the second set seven five and that went into the third and he thought. Oh Gosh like this could genuinely. Gabby the way up you know one. I was thinking but oversee the longest net when told need a raffle started to really just kind of take a up a note and I think break Edmund like the crucial sevens game and from there you know the rest who's GonNa quite straightforward say. But yet for me. This is the match that I think really gave Koyo. She'll of confidence to compete at the top level because say less than a year after this match he was. Let the semifinals via straight. So I think this was kind of solve that build up traces where he was just getting his form. Greg and sharing us actually that he's doing good competitor on clay which is not something we have to say about purchase on Clay Abor. Kyle just shows us he. He's extremely like you know he's a he's a threat. Clay Yeah He. He's a very efficient play over you know. Regardless of what surfaces surfeit surface he plays on and yeah. It was great to see for me. This was the Maxima say. He announced his full had to and I think with someone like Raffarin core. It was. Yeah as you said it kind of his his proving ground and I think the crowd woman is kind of in a state of shock about kind of what you know what was going on and as the Saturday kind of the fact that the Progress I that was a Bagel. You know. I'm sure the crowd would thinking is going to be woken the puck and the classic six love six three victory but no kind of went to three sets and I think it just came out of that kind of came out of nowhere and it was kind of a real kind of result in the loss as a British fan. I was kind of like a was disappointed but at the same time I was like well. He's just taken a saddle. Rafeh monte-carlo that is good to kind of Is a very good result in itself for someone for someone like Carl up and I just wanted to add actually cable today. If you remember what your at this batch was coming to hear some clips achieve a bird interrupted. The third sat like really pivotal. Moment it just kind of like I tried to light shoe off and ate like a ladder of the of the Bayside. It was kind of a lighthearted relief. Yeah what was kind of a? Yeah it was quite tense match. I mean from what I remember. I think that day as well. I'm sure navy tussle with public arena restore some someone. That was a number of good matches that day from what I remember by date. Remember the bird. I love it when a bird interrupts tennis match like Marie Osborne had kitchens. I'll I'll put the. I'll put the moment on on twitter. If any liquor. The bird in question upset the upset. The match yeah. That was certainly another epic moment and our final epic moments actually is one that doesn't really involve rather doesn't involve Federa. Well actually sorry it does involve but not not in the way came you at one. It's some it's fabulous folk. Nanny winning the title in one thousand nine hundred and when he took out. Rafeh Anri in the semi finals. Ep In straight-sets actually and he played Dusan live rich in the final and won six three six four. I think this was epic because I think for meany going into tournament in terrible form think he'd won any one of eight matches The kind of this tournament been of dominated by Spanish players over the years and I think no Italian one since the late nineteen sixty seventy nine hundred seventy S. I think so. It was just kind of great. See kind of like someone else win the title and someone you wouldn't really expect and it I for me. I think it was kind of based fascinating about kind of almost this. Almost kind of the twenty nine thousand nine tournament south was that it was just a very bizarre tournament. Because you had. The final was between Tucson lion witch and Fabio Folk. Nina new. These to play is that you would have expected to get to the final and to make even more. Bizarre lavish didn't even drop a set. Didn't drop a set getting their fog. Ni kind of took out in Dall- in in the semifinals and think afterwards he said that was one of if not his worst match was clay court matches in fourteen years. Being on the tool. Say it just shows you that you know they. They can't be beated. He has to pay pretty bobby. It ought to be yeah. It wasn't a good day for but he's he was very respectful interface at deserve to lose. Which Fair Enough? I believe those last year to me. That feels like about three years ago. I didn't know if that was just me I? I was shocked that Shijo year. That's mad but yeah I mean that's what is it was a nice moment for me. 'cause I guess that's the biggest title that he's ever won in his career. You Masters Series event. Say I also monte-carlo it's it's right on the border with Italy. Say this law of Italian fans So it would always felt like playing a home. I think Paulie and Yeah I mean he deserved. It would be a random fine. Oh I don't think it will be dating what anyone could predict. That was going to happen that year. But I mean is one of those folk. Nanny is one of those players that he does have it in his locker because I think when he beat Rafi became only the fourth man to to have three or more victories against Raffarin clay-court. Yes he has. I think at Ball Selena before I think for many an iphone any also be rougher the US Open one is almost verbatim for Rafeh in certain situations. And I noticed actually looking at do son lawyer which is Progress through to that final. He beat your favorite Joe in the first round pick theory is probably was just got beat dominate team. Own Verbiage that I don't say team was playing in Monterey either because obviously base apemen Rafeh coach the right on garrison a couple of weeks. Eight say oversee didn't put the rest of clay court season in disarray. Too much. Yeah it was just as I said. It's very bizarre final. I think one kind of look back on. It's kind of like Fiqh Ni-ni we share you just this guy on his day. We don't know when that day is going to be but that day. He does have the kind of tools in his locker to be someone like Rafael Nadal. On Clay Cool and. I'm sure he may prophetic on that. As something like the Italian Open in Rome but to get one over on you know in Monte Carlo that must have been that must have been such a such good failing in the fact that he was then able to go on and win. The tournament is probably a very special memory for him and and Darrow. Say That might be the biggest tournament. Yeah. He wins in in his career. I think he probably will we. I mean he knows. If they'll I mean I just hate as a monte-carlo twenty twenty one that we can get teeth. Antique is We have a memory. Say That kind of brings us to a place for a trip down memory lane so Joel D do. You have perhaps a favourite moving out of all the ones that we've touched on today. Yes I am going to go for. It was lovely to hear your cases for the rapper. Babies like Jovic running out so the kind of the for me kind of Decima is like that is a massive moment in terms of the history books. But I'm actually going to go for the gas gay federal match in two thousand five as my kind of ultimately and because of the almost because I think of the significance of that match kind of different Pau paths that kind of You gasquet and Nidal too often that tournament you know these were to play is coming up three. The coming up has young citizen. It just shows you in Tennessee. It's kind of. It is a fickle out in it can I? It can go one way or the other but it doesn't always work out like that and I think it's you know. I think that sort of tournament kind of showed us the starting off. That full gasquet Nidal was. You know we've got gasquet arguably reaching the peak of his career so Eliade glory days of thousand five yet for me. I am going to go for the two thousand twelve. Which is the one that I was lucky enough to be of K? It was straightforward final. I think for me that it was an essential win for rapids. Kind of stop that run of matches going against him You know with with Djokovic think that was other day in hindsight I just feel like it had a sort of critical because obviously I just would worried if Novak had beaten referendum day she would know about wasn't ready is best for his best record. Loss set match. Then that would be notes boding well for the rest of the Clay Court sees not yet that number eight so very significant again and yeah I mean I say many RAF amendment suggests or maybe s is hard but I think that was one I at that much so I think personally. That was part of my favorite tennis. Maybe try to list. We could have had list just made up of rough listeners. Less they what do you think? What was your favorite ultimate moment from Monte-carlo over the years have we have. We missed one out. Let us know You can contact us on social media of course at passing pod. 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Madrid Open tennis fan memories: Top 8 favourite moments including... A Nadal-Djokovic epic in '09, Federer becomes the Blue clay GOAT in 2012, David Nalbandian toppling the 'BIG 3', Bouchard-Sharapova grudge match, Berdych shushes the crowd and more!

The Passing Shot Tennis Podcast

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Madrid Open tennis fan memories: Top 8 favourite moments including... A Nadal-Djokovic epic in '09, Federer becomes the Blue clay GOAT in 2012, David Nalbandian toppling the 'BIG 3', Bouchard-Sharapova grudge match, Berdych shushes the crowd and more!

"Gentlemen Thank You Ladies and Gentlemen and welcome to the passing shots. Us Open considers switch to Indian Wells. Australian Open considered fans only Melbourne. And we consider some of our favorite highlights from Madrid. Everyone and welcome to the passing shot. Tennis POKU SPY FANS FOR FANS wave your stolen Kim on today's episode. We're going to be continuing our trip down memory lane and looking at some of the biggest and best moments from the Madrid Mazdas as L. Sweat will be bringing you up to date on some of the key tennis events of the week with the latest on grand plans for Melbourne and New York. But Kim I it's a bad holiday weekend. How has it been treating you? Have you been gang out the bunting? Not Much Valentine job we have had a couple of oversized flags hanging in windows which has been nice. And it's been lovely weather. I actually had to work on on the holiday itself so I had to wait for my payments at weights. I talked off before could get the payments. Did you have a nice? She has a nice relaxing weekend. It's pretty good. I think as a tennis fan a British tennis found up in Great Britain flag for kind of bunting passes. So I've been kind of Jul- Purpose Meyer my tennis fan sort of past this weekend. I have a whole host of flags in my wardrobe. I've collected various tennis events. Like I remember when we went to the Davis Cup of Madrid. They were giving out these free flags and I was like. Oh I love flags Davis because I studied geography. I just have this thing for flags but I was just going in game like the Serbian. Donate a French flag them time. But I was something I could have just stocked up on my bunting flags at the Davis should have vide on your mind back but yeah we do have some some news that has emerged in the last week from the tennis road. Sadly well there has been some tennis. It's been a few days. Initial exhibition. Tournament is kind of starting up but with regards to the Grand Slams and what's GonNa happen kind of over the next twelve months. We've had firstly the Australian Open considering whether they could play it next year. with just Ozzy Fans having no international visitors or fans coming from abroad Depending on a feed mass gatherings and big events is still banned. Which would say is probably going to be quite likely. I think they've really do need to look into this place. Lay I mean. How do you think that would work? Joan reality which will only having Lake who've answer and anything anyone from abroad. Yes the the time when I first heard it. I thought you know. Is this going to be in a bias towards the tennis players for example? You know the fact that it's only going to be you know people from Australia. He can attend. I think you know this is. This is a compromise that I think I in an ideal world. Everyone would be able to go and kind of be a fan but it sounds like a compromise Almost kind of a halfway meeting point I think between like no fans and having absolute everyone from every kind of being invited so I think it's interesting that they're kind of exploring this scenario. I understand tennis Australia. They're exploring different scenarios as well but I think this is probably the most interesting 'cause we've not really heard it before in the context of grandsons heard kind of the US. Open kind of exploring a an American only event So kind of the French Open as well so you know I. I'm kind of curious to see if if this does happen but I think overall my thoughts is I'd rather have this the no Grand Slam tour and I think most tennis fans would. You would get that. I wonder whether you know the the fact if it if this did happen with this impact so with this kind of give a boost to home homegrown local players from Australia and would it be a disadvantage to the international players. I see your point but I mean I think on the contrary Joe I think the Melbourne Australia is a very nostril place. And there's lots of fans all over the world already living in Melbourne for example. Say you know and they have such a strong diaspora community with the Greek. Australians come out and the Bosnia and I feel like they will still be of atmosphere and I wouldn't say it's necessary to only like bias towards alsi bias I. I'm sure that would element of that. But I didn't think it would. I think it would really make paps that much difference if you had a federal against coke is awesome. What I'm just trying to think of a situation but I think generally the atmosphere would be diminished. There would be less people on site and they would have to limit the numbers as well you to have sort of cutoff or crater. How many could actually attend. Maybe they would have to say distance them in in the arenas or on the side of the course I mean I date know how how it work could you have? One person separated by kind of two or three seats like in stack them out that way. Kim Obviously Malatya versus career. Say That was. That felt socially distanced. Anyway well I mean. I have to say like Australia Australia. April AIDS such a meeting point for play. Tennis fans can come together. And if you've made the trip out there and it will be a real shame to not have fireplaces with this year but I think is like a necessary sacrifice and compromise it will have to live with Until things can go back to like the real normal again an interesting as well. What would you do with the players? Who are flying in oviously from across the world. If they have a fourteen day quarantine periods of see. The players are going to have to go out the at least two weeks before they. I starts but overseas Gemini speaking. They do that anyway for the woman prevents so I mean I didn't if we're just talking about Australian Open about kind of the ATP COP Sydney we we don't really know how it's GonNa work whether they would need to come out two weeks before the star of any tennis in Australia. It's going to have to be. I in Dow is into Joe. I mean there's I think there's lots of different ways slick about the English from the Fan Perspective from the player perspective. I think it's interesting to see that you know that they're going to have to. They're looking at scenarios now. They can't just kind of wait until two weeks before the event to make a decision. It's quite clear that we've kind of all of the the grindstone there having to make these decisions You know now in order to kind of put everything up in place To make sure they're kind of fully prepared and we'll will wait and see what kind of scenario the Australian Open guys down. I think for me the other thing. That kind of is quite notable is it seems that all the grand slams ago having completely different approaches there's very little consistency. You know one end. We've had Wimbledon of C completely cancelled. French Open. French Open has moved that date and interestingly we you know we've been reading this week. I'm moving from the Australian Open to the USA pin again. They are considering kind of options at the moment. Now you know a few months ago they were a bit kind of like the the. Us Open will happen without tennis. Fans it seems to be that they have kind of backtracked on that and kind of come around to potentially the idea of playing at Flushing Meadows without any fans. But the other thing that kind of that came up in the knees which I thought was really interesting was the they might consider moving the USA. Putin from Flushing Meadows to Indian Wells in California. Now the thinking behind this is that Neil. One of the biggest impacted areas major cities to corona virus and restrictions being lifted that will take potentially a lot longer than say somewhere like in. California where there's already kind of talk the restrictions will be lifted. So it's interesting to hear the you know with the SAP. Naci then looking to potentially move potentially move locations. So what do you? What do you think about that because you know? Indian Wells obviously missed out on having a tournament earlier this year in terms of a mosque series Indiana. At the time there were probably thinking you know. This is the title nightmare. This complete disaster. But a if for example. Let's say hypothetically this scenario were to happen. Actually they've kind of come out of it and they would come out of it in a better situation because they would have had a tournament would have to have a bigger tournament and this kind of contributions the you know the US Open would make to that. Local economy would be an absolute boon for you for an event. They didn't think was going to happen this year. I think it's sensible not to the US Open in New York if there is a safer alternative and I think the population didn't stay over. New York is say which high and. That's really the epicenter of the outbreak in the states. But I do still question holding in Indian Wells with with fans because the reason that one of the reasons they cancelled it cancelled Indian Wells. The start of a march middle of March was because they did say in a area. They have a lot of elderly residents and they thought given the demographics of the area wouldn't be safe to put the public health at risk so they didn't play in the event. Then why would having kind of a big of an be any the wiser either? I know this is going to be what later in the year. But it's kind of always too early to say we just don't know what's going to happen. When cut off the lockdowns all a released and everyone kind of goes back. T a socially distance normal is just. I Dunno I just kind of think if if it even if as in Indian wells they probably go with the broadcast only option because I just think it would still be too risky at or at least what we said earlier only have domestic fans rather than international visitors to the area. Yes I I. I'm not sure they may even if they've kind of discussed on know would it be fans fans on no fans if they if they moved it to. Indian wells but do sort of agree with you I think the ideal world that would be fans that. But it's you know if it is PROCASA. That's you know that's better than you know. No event a tool and it's interesting to hear the USA kind of come out. He backtracked called nuts on the. You know the score statements. They were putting out a few months ago because it feels like they've kind of realized that there's GonNa be a big audience out there who are going to be wanting to watch live sport down the line and the fact that we've all been cooped up inside being starved off spot at the moment thing. They've might have realized. Actually that's GONNA create a big appetite. Big Opportunity potentially to bring in new audiences new tennis fans. Because you know these people are just of like I'll watch some. I just watch some sport on TV and potentially USA per might be the very one of the very first big events for that to happen with. I agree I think says Tuft of life sport. If they decide to play a broad saying you shouldn't I will. I will be there but I will be there in my TV. Will she made the INSTA- because is it would have been a long time coming I think we'll episode will start off again. I I'm I'm going to try. And just just to take that that of sporting expect. We'll see what happens Joe. Perhaps their insurance wasn't his Co. Bryant Wimbledon said they kind of thinking they have to play in some capacity and hence putting their thinking cap so now but we need to give it time. I suppose but let's let's talk about Madrid. Which would have been happening this past week in an alternative universe in a normal world. Say we're going to look back on we about eight moments from the past. Well Poss- twenty years. I think the tournament not shady stashed in two thousand and as of eighteen years of highlights to kind of reflect on from Madrid. Do you want to start self? Joe Yes yes. We are going to be lucky back. Take a trip down. Memory Lane lost eight hundred years or so but dribbed at if we go back to the very beginning. Madrid Spain we associate that with an classic outdoor clay oven which is now and I think has been since Two thousand eight but it in its inception. Madrid was a indoor hardcore tournament on. I think it was later later in the year and office kind of moment. My first payment Ashley is from time when it was on a hardcore and is in two thousand seven and it was David Nalbandian. Who became the only player in history so far to defeat the big three Federer Nadal and Jock itch the same tournament? Which you that actually happened. I didn't I before researching this episode. I didn't actually realize that happens. I feel that's quite an underrated quite underrated achievement of the tour. And think it just goes to show you that David Nalbandian on his day. He was a terrific player. And you just kind of feel that like if he had aged so much he hayes achievements. I think would be a lot greater than a lot greater the than they ended up being. You certainly for me is feels like he should be at some point. Grandson. Champion Madrid. Two thousand seven. He beat the Dow Jovic and Federer. An only dropped one set really really really impressive and something. The that should be celebrating is that is a very very very tula. Absolutely I remember him. Beating Rafeh Kaz I. It was such a comprehensive school. I think it was like six hundred sixty and I was like ooh. Okay Sunday the to visit of quite good frightens like at least at the time that I remember. Actually I mean until kind of this triggered a I date remember the fact that he had beaten Federer Andrew which I suppose there wasn't radio big three then because Jovic cut of on the OP. He wasn't quite the joke of which that we know now. So in hindsight obviously we can appreciate the significance of this movement that at the time. Yes it would have been a big thing to beat Federer anecdote but maybe not so much talk as well but interestingly Joe he'd be am dope poetry and Thomas Burdett as well. I'd say. Oh No claim on him. But the other five players they are slightly higher caliber. Say Yeah Really Insane. Kind of performance to Kinda go away and was possibly his only most titles that he picked up the he won the Tennis Masters Cup. I think when it was in Shanghai because I remember he beat he beat Federer Iva five sets. He won the end of season event. I think it was even in the preceding potentially but some yeah I think that he just had like it absolutely draw from Hell. Did They saw four Grab Jab bids told US Bird Bitch. You know just an absolute horror drawer and yeah just kind of just kind of came here. And I think at the as he said federal it was kind of a big T. More ephedrine douse of dominance. In Novak Djokovic was still finding himself to an extent but I think the JOVIC was to walk up the three and found a little start here. He became only the second player since Boris Becker in Nineteen ninety-four to beat the top three players in the world at the same event. Say it just shows you the that was such a such a historically kind of impressive moment. The sort of is I think part of his legacy and I think with now banned Ian particularly for British fans thing. A lot of people will remember him for that outburst in the the Queen's final defied which is a shame because you know on his day on tennis court he was absolutely fantastic so watch and he was unbeatable unplayable in Madrid thousand. Seven was probably the Crowning Glory Crowning the Crowning Glory of that. He is just say it takes one of madness to tarnish rare. Your reputation is it reminds me of Sedans heads in the final that year But yeah no absolutely did probably a very underrated player a bit like David Fray could've gone one more actually if he hadn't been around at the time of great we'll three greatest is of all time. He continued to his tombstone. I could have not as team side. I think that that's just how gates that that result is say the line judge incident. Say We'd rather than one but you'll let that leads me on. T perhaps well this could be the most famous. Madrid moment that people remember actually over the Hey It's when when they had believe clay and I feel like you know this is not so much for the actual tennis happened on that really but just at the significance of the fact that the Klay was basically in two thousand twelve anyone. That doesn't know they decided to turn the red clay blue as a kind of what I think. It was a sponsorship thing primarily but oh say they said it would benefit television viewers. Because you could see the yellow tennis much more clearly against the believe today but it didn't go down very well placed Reported that it was thought you slippery. Rafeh lost earlier than you would normally. Well been a joke of it. Say Lost a federal editor the tournament so fans loved the Blue Clay but yeah it spoked quite a lot of tension. Aqel feathers ruffled by this job. Can YOU REMEMBER? I mean it was such a I think it was more of an infamous. Babe did anything else. Because we've never seen I. We've never seen Eddie fig like I remember the time is a tennis fan sieg on TV and just thinking is is this for real. Is this actually happening? You know I've heard of erect clay. I think that's green clay as well as the each tool but the idea of blue clay you know it was just it sounds very sounds bonkers time say. I see Red Cross so I don't like Blue Class I visually. It's just very striking and I D. What side whether I feel like there was a time when blue blue was real trend for was really it vogue for tennis courts because you know the Australian Open blew the USA ID? What do we organize this kind of looked at that and the felt the blue as a color for a fan agree is kind of the best contrast with yellow tennis boo and kind of transferred. What they've done for two cool but you know I. It felt like it was something that the organizers wanted fob or that the players you know Dowell Jakovich I there are. There are other players as well. He just came out and said you know tennis has traditions. Clay as tradition is played on red clay not blue and I'm pretty sure towel wet as far as to say if they have blue back next year. I'm no playing and that's obviously going to be. The one thing that sponsors in the tournament organizers date one is is rough not turning up say. I'm not surprised. They went back to read faded following year much of this effect fans because he is now the goat of Luce. One Way WANNA see. Do you see blue K Butler tennis fans. Genesis is D- what it back because I I think the I think it nixed to Li. I think they should have. I don't think they should have kind of introduced as some big your masters level event. I think maybe they should have may be tested out on the challenges or something or has some sort of testing phase because the father is only being used at one event it's crazy to solve mobility factor to it and now. I'm kind of a bit like I could see it on an exhibition in an exhibition but on the toy level. It actually going to be taken seriously by the there is a part of that does want does what it called the tool listeners. Last I what you think Because you have to be I just I just think it just looks cool off TV and if the place hater say it but I kind of liked it. But Joey you've got kicked players. Actually they say in America they have Green Clayton A on. Some of the Lakers events is a natural green light. It's not been artificially doll eight but I do remember. That was a pink clay call that I think was just done as like a prey. Move sort of charity thing. I think it was right on garrels for like women's Day or something Kind of breast cancer. What are those kind of initiatives? I'm sure it was trying to have a look at. It was actually the same. Yeh It was two thousand twelve. They unveiled pink cycle. But it wasn't. I do think they use it competitively. I think they might just have an exhibition on something so it didn't quite say disruption as oh they interestingly people noting that the UK was slippery that year at Madrid. Another theory was that actually it was just the conditions which is wet to the normal. Nate had a bit more rain than they usually had. They've struggled with drainage at sites for the last couple of years so people were kind of making some making the ultimate. It wasn't because of the belief I it was other factors to present a balanced argument. Yes and I think the blue clay politically. What next could we have a blue grass call? I'd love to see you know I'd love to see well. We could go and say that we should get more. I think we should get more kind of bonkers. We've also of mix and match of colors and surfaces because I do feel like there is a collective group that you know. Tennis courts are the tour. I'll tell you. What if there is an opportunity to cut him? Maguy mix mix it up a bit. Who knows use the next fighters as a place to kind of experiment a test? We haven't had any. We HAVE NO SLAMS TULA SHARE JOE. They'll have to create like fusion. One where they have a quarter of all the different well off the court would be hard core. Now you have a quarter gross in Aquatic Bay. That'd be you exhibition. I've kind of ten. I think ten years ago I think between Federal Dowa across core Hoffa Klay call which was which. I'm pretty sure they switch shoes. They switched that shoes on the on. The changeover I've loved to say baby. Who knows a red clay blue clay hybrid gets Federer Goto Bluecher Kobe and Nadal of the wreck? Lay battling out either. Way I suppose the Klay Sto Gays Oleg and is of red streaks blue streaks where which would look a bit more order essays but yeah let's let's move on Joe. I The the moment that I'm GonNa raise here. I if you remember a for Rafael I think Insisting will remember this quite well. It was my bed. Beats Rafeh back in Madrid in two thousand six that was when it was hauled colts? And he's Shish the Crou- which caused a lot of tension between rich and rougher at the net and I think the press cut of quite captivated by afterwards and I remember every time they paid each other like for the next couple of years. This was always brought up kind of you know in their head to head in the rivalry basically told us about it. Won The match. Six seven six was in the finals that year in in two thousand six. I'd obviously the crowd being Spanish. Pray Rafeh cheering for him as she would Bata. Yeah as soon as One he he raised his finger to his lips. Shish the crowd to kind of silence. Them you know after they'd been giving to rapper. And then obviously the Spanish fans did not like that so they booed him off court and rougher said something to him at the net sort of say that was not okay idea And obviously in a bed it. I'm sure would have expected the crowd to kind of be supporting his opinion as you age but I think he he just felt that they were over the top whereas Rafeh just said the just being Spanish and supporting me. I'm player but it's for me. It was just one of those moments I think in the fan community anyway from what I remember. There was a lot of Agra tools for this many that he did for the fame. Shushing the crowd and it wasn't until a couple of years later when I think of gold side and it was all forgiven that you've said forget about it if you remember that at all Joe I don't remember. I'm graphical youtube with it. Sounds the box mine. Jordan is the kind of Nidal hit list of Kaz Russell. Go Yeah well actually. I think yeah I mean. It's just one of those things day oversee think Thomas was was quite young that they were both quite young over the time. I'm sure perhaps see he wouldn't have done that. Eight years later. For example with Giant news it's sort of a bit more like a carry also antic comparing someone nowadays. Well I was GONNA say the the the fact he beat the Dow Associate H. We've cut a top three three and play with Scott. One of the worst records. I think history against like the very very best so How To beat the to that baby because he do for the rest of his career he was just GonNa pay cut of thrashed off court. Basically I mean this was on this was when Madrid was on the heart so less surprising the he beat recipes especially rougher on a hardcore back in two thousand six really had little of today to improve his game. But I do remember just every time I think. Rafa played burdette after that match. I was like Ooh go bird. Go is number replica. Reverse that will they should still was always a quality fire always day. I think you could be anyone say see. He retired last. Jaden Hiebert finally after injury problems. So let's move onto our forth Madrid moment and this is actually from the women's side because Madrid is a combined. Event is a master's level of for the men is a premier mandatory. I think for the women and we again going back over a decade ago. You to for me. A moment I think is tinged with sadness Kim because it's Def- Dinara Safina's super clay season in two thousand nine number one and she had a really epic crises and two four finals and she won the biggest title of her career at the time. Probably now to be honest as well at the at Madrid. And you know she was playing really good. Tennis and issue was kind of really informed during the clay court swing and she'd already been in the Grand Slam final in in Australia. Epa nothing she'd risen. It's kind of wild number one and it felt like this was a moment and Madrid was along that path to the French. Open right on garrels where you just felt that it was written in the stars for Safina to to come out and win it and kind of break doc in terms of like Grand Slam titles and she went into that she went into. She went into that. French is probably one of the favorites. Got To the finals. I think you know I was reading. Got To the quarter finals. Drops fifteen games managed to get to the final but didn't wasn't able it's going to get to the line. Yeah I remember watching that final against the road and Garo Swift Safina. She was like my favorite women's fire at the time. Because I think the full in two thousand and a Garros Safina had been like pretty much dowd in like almost all matches and had made these like epic comebacks. I think just really indeed had to me and I saw it following her more because of that I did not find in two thousand eight. She kinda lost quite three two so you know a year later. She's had this amazing run on the clay got to like all of the flake. Oh finals at which I think she's the pledge of dots to make all four of them which is amazing in itself so she want Madrid. I think she will say one room. But yeah she gets the road and Garros Final steamrolls. I way through the tournament and then comes up against in the final and leases in straight-sets and all has lime fine was three intelligible. She lost them all in straight-sets 'cause she just mentally just couldn't Massively she just couldn't put a game together in the final which just such a shame because she is one of guys that you really ought of managed to get one slam under her belt. But it's just the way especially as the world number-one as well because you're always going to have that monkey on your back is like yes. You're well number one. But how many grounds tights and you know pay is will come out and say I for me. Rankings on titles are more important namely Grand Slams and I think that was one of the issues. We've kind of Safina. Is that it at the time. She was getting fair Real Purple Patch. Think she got to eight finals. Kind of the two thousand nine season including two Grand Slam final. She made the semi-finals women as well. But let's we'll talk about that a sack real puzzle ashamed that I think the biggest career your biggest career is the Madrid. Because you feel like it shouldn't be. That should have been should have been the French. Open in two thousand nine and it was kind of sad because you know from that point on you know after the French Open. It kind of did spiraled down a little bit and kind of go on as I said to kind of Wimbledon came semifinals Venus Williams. While number. One you guys love and one. It's not great for the for the tool for the world number-one Blair yeah. I think she had a lot of issues. Around people thinking she wasn't a credible player to be number one in the world And oversee. I think that probably didn't help in the fact that she wasn't that across the finish line at slams or she didn't even get into a winning position you know. She lost all his finals in straight sets and just that was really had tied and that was that was kind of a million and interestingly in Madrid She wasn't in the final and obviously we'll snacky similar kind of story really well number. One hadn't won a slam at that point again. People sort of saying the same things you would. We really remember you. You know if lab in the same way. It's not the same. It's just been well number one oversee years later snacky in a finally did get Islam. He's off they go. Maybe if Savina carried on gay group longer she eventually had her day in the Sun. I think injury really did it in the end. I think he was hit back because actually two years later she retired. I think actually the last match of her career was injured. So I think it's choir symbolic place for Herat Chilean. I'd also I think she. She trained to low in Spain. I think she speaks fluent Spanish. Think she spent a lot of our time subsequent. Nice for her. It's kind of like her adopted country if he likes say I think the tournament and hair kind of gained a I guess forever sort of intertwine somewhat because of these moments okay. We are back for some more moments from Madrid in our trip. Down Memory Lane and again. We're going to be getting back to two thousand nine now for a men's match which for me came in. Vos One of your favorite players put. Well your favorite player and I to me. I want to say this is my favorite match between Rafael Nadal. You're rich on tennis. Call Bob. Maybe the Australian Open final. They played in the Madrid semi final and the Dow came out victorious. Three six seven six seven six. He won eleven nine in the final set. Tiebreak it was. It was a match that went over four hours. It was just a really high quality it was just a really high quality tennis match and I think it is on that list of not only best matches only best matches in the rivalry between the down jock which is just think this is just one of the best matches that was that has been played on the ATP tour because it was so good. Because I think jock of each was really kind of at this point really. He really understood how you played. Cadel land coming that match. He felt that he was playing some of the best Tennessee ever produced. Now I think he'd won. He won more points day even but the Dow was just found some way to to get over the line. Yeah I remember actually this match. I was watching stuck on my computer watching on a stream and I was thinking. Oh my goal. She's going on and honestly such a long tough battle I say into it was it was fantastic. I think arguably yeah is the best three-set match ever was one could say. I don't own a lost episode. Show we were talking about our favorite matches and this would certainly be a contender for for that. But we'd LE- Under this might sound of out there. I remember this much because it was the day of the year vision some contests that year in two thousand and nine so I have sort of say shit on that but yeah it was interesting because two thousand nine. This was the season the rougher lost Robin Soderling garrels so Boston while that places and didn't go so well as it went on and actually tournament rather lost the final the next day to Federer so oversee this match must take and say much our affair four hours long Iraq. Rosario is still had an impact was season where I think kind of Novak Djokovic really showed you really kind of pushed Nadal to the limit on a tennis coach on a clay court in the clay season and the impact of it was ultimately. I think further down the road right on Garros. Nadal Ernie made the fourth round loss to loss to Robin Soderling I think matches like this really kind of took its toll on him and had if as you said a physical impacts that meant the you know. He didn't think he had as much left in the tank. When it got to write on garrison say some of the other seasons where he kind of was coast to victory but the fact that he was kind of able to put on these matches absolute delight delighting. The crowds and You know is one of those rivalries has certainly is delivered at Grand Slam level and it delivered its delivered on the tool in the tool tournaments as well in the best of three set full. Matt and you know I can. I can think of of you know I can think of other matches kind of this one. Klay cool how come back back. Guard in. In Madrid's against Novak Djokovic that really sets it up and it was something the definitely delivered but Yeah again listen. Let's not think that was one of the best matches ever on the the ATP circuit. Are there any others? Maybe if there are other Nidal thus is Jock. Vich matches of a better than that better. Yeah let's be interesting. We'd be interested to hear your thoughts. Let's move on to our next memory. I think we've got three more left for listeners. So this next one actually is a bit of a break free. When it was in two thousand fourteen and it consents. Dominic team who came up against Stanford. Rinker team was a twenty year old Australian qualifier at the time. Of course nowadays. We know him as a very accomplished player. He's not grandson just yet. But we feel like it's on the cards especially on a clay court where he's really He is really hard to to live with. And you know in Madrid in two thousand fourteen. He came up against stomach drinker. And and just Shoji some of those qualities you know. We've we've seen in the years ahead. And he came out. He came out in a winning. A Topsy Turvy match. Actually one six six two six four but I think that day it kind of shared you on the circuit. Yes we've been talking about the big T- than we were talking about the big three about the big full bachelor. There are other players kind of talking about as well and that's not just Denver anchor as dominate team as well. Yeah it is interesting and its look back six years ago now and see when these players that are now off the top of the game sort of emerged onto the scene. And at the time you so of maybe miss some of these moments With have hindsight and reflection that you can kind of appreciate the significance of the of the This was pretty much. His breakout season and on the ATP toward and she said he was a qualified in Madrid. A but it's weird you know. He's a bit like a baby stat isn't he? They have a very similar game. The one hundred backhands is a bit like watching yourself down the other end of the cool. Yeah just the way that he came back against and he was welcomed by three at the time and newly crowned Australian Open champion as well to come back off these. Well yeah much. Galway to combat losing our first set six one and to win it. Fatty comfortable schooling. After that in the second round was obviously a notable win baps up there with the likes of with with Donald Sort of memory later. Monte-carlo REMEMBER gasquet beating. Federer these sort of emerging story lines that that come on to the scene and especially I think really. This was the moment really went. Stan was I guess. One of his peaks now. He's a player that can kind of come on often have most full exposure. This was the first time that he was really putting together that season and then beat him as a young upstart. That makes the more memorable really. Yeah team showed his attacking and I think you know the thing the way we can talk about dominate team. Now is the fact that he can bring it. You can bring an attacking game to any you know any tennis player. Whatever ranking and with a single handed back at news so it was a say it. Jesse is kind of refreshing to watch T. players with Soglo had back has dual against each other. It was a bit light you know stab plagues of what he's like. Yoga in the same mode is him kind of Coming up and it just shows you the play that can that can live in the taught ranking. You don't necessarily have to have a double handed backhand you can have a single handed back candidates favoring and on not approve of that say Joe. I didn't remember but in two thousand eighteen Petra. Christopher Had a flying season pays and what made it so poignant was the fact that it was off the back of that horrible knife attack that she'd suffered and deepen not yet convinced ever was the champion It was a pretty good final against ski in three-set match only three hours long but perhaps most symbolic Kavita has the most number of titles than any other female player. She's one three major aprons and the season she will. She don't quite role in two thousand eight hundred and she she picks up well. This was fourth traifi off the season. She was on eleven match winning streak at this time in such a lot of such good form and I think it was just so nice to be able to kind of witnesses it off the back of knife attack. She didn't know she'd even be out to play tennis again. So to come back and achieve sort of such a good season and to win Madrid for the Third Time. This would have been the first time. She'd Madrid off the attack to me. This is a nice memorable occasion to kind of reflect back home. Because I think she's want her to remove him but baps visa gloss over the fact that she has consistently been at the top of the game for a long time now and picked up an awful lot of premier mandatory. Titles as well and I think this event just kind of goes to show that really this final against persons back in two thousand eight. Yeah and I think she will be closely associated with exlusive Madrid and I think we'll say great was she. I think she wasn't expecting yourself. She won she had one in Prague. The previous week's issues getting into the van you know going into Madrid quite tired and feeling exhausted and just shows you. The kind of technical ability was just there an able to kind of get a three when perhaps body was kind of. She was feeling kind of in terms of the physical exertions factor. Technical ability was able to get her a line just shows. You won't find that she is against someone like keep bats he knows kind of going through going up the rankings. At time think she ended up in fifteenth in the wild off after losing to convince very not final but it was a Guy. It was a great bird. I just think it's quite funny about it. Was the the trophy. Women's trophy came the convertible was holding out. And if it's still the same now it's quite bizarre. It looks like it. Looks like a tic like a I plus a correct sign and Nike take. Yeah I don't really notice that I'll pick up on that before but it is an architecture oral style a design date. No it's a bit owed but Yeah perhaps actually one week. We d like top ten trae fees intense but yeah it's interesting because she's one of three times oversee headed a really good clay seasons while this year but she's only ever actually got to the semifinals. That right and seems seems like she could. She could easily win Vertigo. We'll see we associate with Wimbledon victories. But she certainly got the game to. We don't all services. It's just a kind of surprising. Perhaps she has a bit more guarantee over the years. I do suggest the note on Kiki Burton's last year. I think Kiki Buttons One Madrid. Didn't she says she's so of overseas as she avenged her. She avenged her defeat. Actually think to convert jeering run But yeah it was. It was a long cry from that meeting at Wimbledon like a few years before Before two thousand eighteen Convertible love in one in thirty five or say bids tentacle was Iowa. Kiki Beth is. You said it's kind of a bit of a bitter fight. It was able to kind of bring her a game to Madrid but yet convinced for kind of us that she is the queen of Madrid when it comes to the Women's tool say yeah. That was kind of a another moment for us and our kind of final moment again is specifically not not necessarily for history but for for matching so buildup in context. I don't think you can get more than this camera. I think it's I think he's a good moment to end on. And As of course 2017. Eugenie shot beating Maria Sharapova in in a wanted probably one of the matches of the season. I think there's a real kind of tussle. Bichon came out seven five two six six four zero victory but really kind of the the backdrop for this was the comments in the media that be shotted made around the fact that she affected sharp was a cheater because of her drug scandal and the she should have been served a lifetime ban and these comments came out before this match at it really just added. It added a lot of spice of address to see to see how this was going to gay. And I think for me is a time as a fan. You know kind of looking at Bichon thinking you know. She's she's to be punching here. She wins because she was she wasn't. I think she might have been in the top hundred time but she certainly wasn't reaching the exploits of women grandson final and it just surprised me when I saw the result and I was kind of like. Oh this is this had shake is definitely going to be interesting. Yeah because it was Yeah because I think Bushel even though she had said you know these comments in the preceding of so felt like she went into that much as the underdog. Yeah I agree. I think they lauded this tired of the media and everything is like a victory. A drug cheat justice has been served because bichon beaten Sharpei because she said of other players who kind of wishing had law saying oh well done oversee. They agreed with what shot said about share paper. I suppose I mean yeah. I think it's really just a guess significant because of the comments that were made and and I'm sure actually spurred Bichon home because she was probably added that extra bit of motivation and of agree that she needed to to come through it because obviously sadly three years later Bouchard is is not often the top of the game C. Sharp paves retired. But it hasn't hasn't led to anything more for Bichara has it and it's kind of annoying. Actually because I remember a again as a fun when was watching it and Bichon coming out as the victor I feel. Ooh Is going to be the second rise of of Bichon be. I feel like historically kind of looking back on. It feels annoying Labor for straightening me almost kind of like a door because as you said you know thinks she's so go a little bit of a way to to get back to kind of. Us She was in this. This is you know. I'll keep you the second highest point. She got two after after getting a Wimbledon final. Yeah I think in terms of the the fame and the significance of a victory. Yeah probably is up there under her modern twenty thirteen. I think it was. I liked the fact that when Shar Pei was asked about shots comments. She said that she was a way above respond. Day I just last week. Sharp paver got interesting thing to finish showed that they are quite spiky competitors. You are quite i. Guess quite polarizing but as you said at the time it did feel like a sort of win for the some people would say it'd be. It was a win for the people you felt the show for maybe should have go much a straight to sentence and one of the parallels can kind think of in in other sports is similar to either. Justin Gatlin versus you. Same boat in hundred meter row championship. Finals is so if that's it felt like that sort of match up and that's I guess what made it so intriguing to to kind of watch and play out. And the they went to three sets. I lived up to the billing and it was kind of A. There's a great match. It was an entertaining match and had had the drama. The I think the women's side does provide a bit more off than demand side in terms of that. So of gossipy. You say Dr Interest. It reminds me of Address and cab. He said that she was being withdrawal. Mcqueen that or it's pays it's a little bit like carry offs was Gay Ron saying about to Stan and allow anyway. We're Dunkel valley so should stay clear if your listeners. Let us know if bob so you can think of other moments similar whether it's been a real kind of edge intention to the match because of something that was PAP said court. Yeah let us know what you would suggest that one. Yes but yeah that wraps up for this episode of our trip down memory lane with the Madrid event. Yeah let us know if you've got any other moments we think we've missed off are less you can. Of course contact us on social media at passing shop put on Facebook instagram and twitter. 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