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"gargano ciampa" Discussed on OC Talk Radio
"Takeovers is a completely different story right. Those are grand slams every time but I think we're grading annex t the same way we're way we grade Ron smackdown. Maybe we wouldn't be so this is the best this is so great data data because they do well well performed and well thought out continuity storytelling but nothing's really blowing your socks off is my point with the next programming where we hold shocking moment on Wednesday night in x t right right we hold ron smack down to this. It should be this. Oh my God. Do you remember that in. Why can't we get back to that? Were in exte- and even a w we do this whole like but it's not bad guys. It's not bad different again but we do hold raw and smack down to this level of like it better be pay-per-view quality every time but motherfuckers you made them three and two hours long so oh I'm. I'm playing in that much time and Kadhem. If it's not that means you're subjecting me to three hours of not being that yes do that right next takeover annex t weekly programming as an hour is is nothing but again. I'm just saying sometimes we go like INEX- teased the best program what happened last week. We'll it didn't catch him but I'm GonNa Watch takeover this weekend and it's like we motherfuckers. You guys want Ron smackdown every second of it and then tell me how bad it is so maybe do the same thing next week but let's get into five matches so I've been watching it. I Adam Cole is still the coolest guy in the world to me. <hes> Johnny Gargano the truest baby face. I hated that little quick. He'll turn that Dan but now we're back on track. That's where the title love it but let's start off with the first match. Let's build to that. What do we got? This is an interesting one. We've got the man that charisma forgot Roderick strong taken on Matt Riddle I also. Degree like this is going to be a Kinda guy. I think he's going to skyrocket here. <hes> he just seems to be getting it does Matt Riddle. Oh Yeah I love him. He is so much fun Bro. I just love it. It's just it's the fucking cool character yeah I think rodrick strong because he's in a group and you know groups when they do singles matches Kinda tag team like a singles match for attack team wrestler they can lose it and still not lose really anything <hes> so. I think this is a Rodrick. Strong is a man that charisma is not a part of his D._N._A.. Blood he can wrestle a really good match. I think I think this is this is going to be a good showcase for Matt riddle because he it can go. He can do some fun things with someone. He knows that can come up with shed strong as a veteran will know how to make sure he looks good and all of this because we are. We are there to this matter. It'll has been doing this for a little bit of time but it has been a little bit of time in the grand scheme scheme of things yeah rodrick strong. I believe memory serves me correctly him in A._J.. Styles was the first ever T._N._A.. madge on T._N._A.. Impact on T._N._T.. Tells you how long he's been doing it and he was doing a long before that too so then we've got the North American National Yeah Oh yeah yeah I definitely have Mamedov this. Although I could see roderick strong winning via some sort of you know interference if they wanted to continue moving on with you know riddled versus you know INARA yeah. I know they're having some dissension in that regard but so that might be a little off but but I definitely think riddles GonNa win but I wouldn't shock me to see strong wind be as something you know <hes> all right so the N._F._C. North American Championship Tyler Breeze takes takes on the champion the velveteen dream. I don't see them to slap in. This title belt on Tyler brees all of a sudden because he's back or anything unless they're going to have dream getting to the world to yeah manager now the one thing though that I want to applaud W._b.. On doing though is one thing that we talked about his as you ain't got anything up in Maine roster come back and Taylor breeze did so credit to him because tyler breezes cool tyler breezes preschoolers moments was wrestling Jusin Thunder Liger on annex t takeover so takeovers really where he made his character and stuff so haven't go back there and that's the thing is like that tyler breeze character will be allowed to give more time. I'll be like you're saying there's not a whole Lotta time there one hour shows for the characters to shine <hes> bought that character can shine more in that thing where there's less people right and he can do more subtlety things other than just being looked like you're really vein and into yourself right like boil it out of the most caricature you know when he's going to have a way cooler entrance in annex t than he's ever GonNa have on the main roster so it's a great move but because he has been on the main roster maybe von Dongo is hurt still uh. I don't know what happened to him but but I yeah I don't think they're gonNA give it to a callback guy so I could see unless he's going to be there and they think you know what I mean. He can run with it for a little bit and get some good match these guys because we're going to now transition edition dream into the world title picture so I could see that but yeah coming over this yeah yeah I got dream all right ladder match for the vacant INEX- SEATAC team championships because the Viking Raider Warrior experienced guys had to vacate ah the titles right you know what I mean <hes> no why have to but they did right yeah. They're not on wrong as well yeah well. They'RE GONNA go to also is happening all right so we got Dany Burton. Oni Larkin stroh profits YEP forgotten sons no. I think maybe an official Riley which I don't think we'll get now. I it's Dan Street prophets forgotten sons but I do think they finally pull the trigger on the street profits and give them some gold. They just feels right guy love the street prophets their Solo Cup. Day Are the new Harlem Heat for me right. They just got a little more swagger than than even hardly he'd had A. We're cool and we're about to fuck you the hell up street profits are a little more like we're cooled at the party. Oh also gonNA fuck you up right like you just like other yeah. Street profits definitely have more vibe of hey. Let's everyone have fun because if you don't fuck you up where Harlem it was like fucking like anyone in this party get Outta here. We're coming here and we're having fun because we're about the foot right exactly yeah different vibe but I like street profit. Forgotten sons are good <hes> they have kind and to me and maybe it's the southern vibe but they have a revival kind of two teams right now though too so I think st profits guy to have them you know undisputed era. I think maybe like you said there's dissension. I think maybe something happens here. Karadzic strong tries to help them out. Maybe and that causes a what the fuck do you do Roger. We had the match one and you fucked it up. I think maybe that's what happens and then that's how street prophets get it so. I'm GonNa Street prophets all right. I'm going through providence also now. We've got the women's championship match we got. Ill shirai taken on China baiser. I think this might be one. We're seeing obeying. Slur loses and we might be seen her go to the main rosters. Maybe I don't know do what why who knows do what I mean. They brought up the Evans to do what you know. Wrestling matches okay so they might do that with her to her and she's better than some people that up there now. I wish they would do this do what they did with tyler breeze. Send baiser up and bring somebody else back down right. About how would you swap out of obeys bringing back to main roster one from each brand Dana Brooke Dana brought Goodwin Yep. Dana Brooke definitely coming back and smackdown <hes>. I can't remember who's on fucking no 'cause. She's on raw now yeah but she's whatever I'm GONNA send back from smack down down. I'm GonNa send back the Cross. There Mickey crosses so great. No she just Becky Lynn that's right. No I'm going to send down Carmella <hes> Oh yeah governmental or what does she do. I feel like she's main Rosser ready. They just don't have shit because they suck at the story. Okay if it's like the main roster ready kind of back then that I'm separating aim fire and desire and I'm sending sunny down right because yeah you were right with Dana Brooke right like needs a little more seasoning. There's something there people are getting behind are like I can see improvement but needs some more work right definitely yeah I'm sending Santa Ville and Dana Down Shayna so anything was coming away. I'm doing I'm sending Shannon baseler up but I'm sitting here near as top girl and I'm sending her to henchmen with her and so it's three of them go up four of them. Come back down. I'm sending natty. Dana Brooke Naomi and Sonya Deville those foregoing back down and here's the thing to this is what I talked about like I get that annex t they thought as kind of the intermediary between the performance center and the main rosters and I get that okay but I still think you could have three separate distinct brands that our main roster and they can all be different we keep hitting on this right and you can swamp these people in and out if one felt like a w where you could have sent the guys like the Dini Umbro's and then you know I mean you can send a natty to wherever she fits best and when she gets stale there you can move it but they just don't do that here. They don't send some of these people like you said. There's no reason Naomi can't for six months. GO WORK THE ANNEX T. Hey you get six months off the road. We're GONNA set you up in a God. Damn rental home in Tampa or go to your home town. If you want or you can have a fucking. We've got one of the W._b.. Corporate houses for Lisa you. You know what I mean like. We'll just you know like that. They can just by some houses today with these people live in for a few months like they can do whatever they could do all these things whatever so you think bazars went in I'm GONNA call. I'm going to say Yoshii wins it. Why not I know ill sure I if she walked into a room wearing assured the said my name is e? Oh sure I neither taking her. Neither neither would I and then the next championship match Johnny Gargano Defends Against Adam Cole Bay a new champ. Yes this is where if you remember in their last imagine the third fall the undisputed era tried to interfere Johnny Gargano overcame the odds and still capture the title. I think even though there's got this is my prediction is that Roger Strong is GONNA lose clean. He's GonNa try to help out the TAG. fucking in the three of them are going to prevail get Adam Cole the title <hes> we're all thinking it's good then exceed programming. We're going to do a we're going to do a coronation celebration of Adam Cole as the champion at Kohl's GonNa talk about how great of a night it was except for one thing that happened is at call L. at Rodrick strong. They'RE GONNA kick them out of undisputed era and in the first title-challenger Four Adam goal is going to be Rodrick strong. Yeah full circle is booked for that was like there. I I like major guys that were going yeah right and that's a great story. That's a great story to tell that is agree yeah. I think the same thing Adam Cole is winning this thing bay. We might even see Gargano. Go Away. I I think they still I think they wanted him up there. Yeah yeah he was he was part of the four remember it was Gargano Ciampa Alastair Black and ricochet and then all of a sudden medical and Ottawa because of CIAMPA and and so yeah I think I could easily see Gargano kind of lose the title go away because he got beat up by all the undisputed era comes back when Gar CIAMPA gets back they do a whole like we're taking over kind of thing do a couple of takeovers and then go back to the roster and then now we're fucking everyone up. I got it he shows up out of nowhere. Roll up pins are truth becomes the twenty four seven champion but defends it like he goes stand in the ring wing right and he just starts take on three guys in a time right kicking out of pin falls pin and a few of them right like and then you just johnny wrestling right like too quick to good for you twenty four seven shape he manages the last three weeks or something up in doing that nonsense right and then he's built that little like holy crap this little kids firecracker which by the way how bad do the twenty four seven title look that Roman reigns had the opportunity to win it but he said no our truth you get Al fucking thing. Why would wanna bag when he just was talking about how burdensome it was to run for? Here's the problem with it man. Here's the problem with it. It's not a championship given to the person who can win the matches the most for it. It's the person who can outrun the competition. The longest and what kind of fucking champion is that and why do we care will ever get a proper match in a pay per view of Kayla eh because they're constantly being chased at all hours of the day. So how could it match even start when they're walking to the Goddamn ring they're going to get rolled up and Chafe and then she McManus's able to suspend the rule so it's at twenty three point nine slash a six point nine four just because the guy's gotTa match scheduled later that means the twenty four seven is often twenty four seven like again so I there's conflicting reports on whose idea this was but one of the ideas that that I've seen out there is that U._S._A...
"gargano ciampa" Discussed on Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast
"They're they have every episode of raw here, and it's better than DVD quality. This is perfect. This is exactly what I wanted. But now that we've got every episode of raw nitro it's time to get spoiled. Let's get all our other TV shows. So that's why I was so excited last week about superstars from ninety two. But one of the shows similar to superstars ninety two the obscure shows that you just never be able to have the library of before the WWE network is shows like Thursday thunder for WCW, and of course, WWE Sunday night heat. And when they first released the Sunday night heat library. I was so excited to just scan through. And watch some of the episodes. But one of the episodes that I really wanted was halftime heat and that went down on Sunday night that was the empty arena match between the rock and mankind. WWE decided that on Super Bowl Sunday they would compete with the Super Bowl. Now. Smackdown would be on at the same time. I mean Sunday night heat would be on at the same time as the Super Bowl. But what they did was they program the show, and they got cooperation from the USA network. So that as soon as the Super Bowl went to halftime, they could go to an empty arena match between the rock and mankind. So the people who didn't want to watch the Super Bowl halftime show could tune over to the USA network and watch the rock versus mankind in that empty arena match which is classic and now super excited about that not just because it's the rock versus mankind. And it's a title match in baba baba because it was just such a fun concept. And it is so cool to see that concept coming back. I think this is what the WWE. At work. One of the things that the WWE network is built for is creating live content like this. You know, I think about it in terms of my YouTube channel, you know, Sam Roberts now is this show that I do on my YouTube channel, it's not a wrestling show to general interest show, but I go, you know, I the live on YouTube whenever I want. So like, I'll be doing a Super Bowl halftime show won't be a wrestling show. But I'll be doing a Super Bowl halftime show because I did last year. I do New Year's Eve show if I'm home, I'll do a Oscars red carpet show. You know, what whatever is on? I can do a show because I've got a studio, and I've got the ability to go live in WWE is going. Hey, we've got the same thing. We've got our own network. We've got the performance center where I I've read that the show will be coming from. And we've got the talent. It's it's Gargano ciampa and Adam Cole, which is big because the first time Gargano and Champa are on the same team. You know in recent memory since the break-up and everything taking on Ricky shea Alastair black and velveteen dream top good guys versus bad guys. I love it. And I'm so excited about the return. I'm gonna I'm gonna be doing my YouTube show. I think I'll have the Super Bowl halftime show on mute on TV I'll have the WWE network on mute on my ipad. And I'll be looking at the camera. I just be inundated with media. But I think it's so much fun. And I'm so glad that halftime heat is coming back. So I'm all about the events. I'm all about the specialties, and I got the opportunity, and you know, you guys heard me promoting it here on the podcast pretty heavily. I got the opportunity in Phoenix comedy club called CB live, which is in Phoenix. Arizona a great great place. Great atmosphere. Great food the whole deal. They invited me out and said, hey, you know, WWE's coming to town. We would love. Love to get a not Sam wrestling live show while you're here. And I said great, let's put something together..
"gargano ciampa" Discussed on The Corner
"But yeah, I feel like a lot of those were within like three months fan. So yes, I have sticking by. He had good g one match, but I feel like all of that happened between January and April. Menu might have been the last one. Yeah. No. I mean, we're going from January to Tober like who taught about a string of matches that went through the summer. Like, I think Kenya. Been in. Look, you can even argue that can you'll make is not wrestle the year. I just can't see how you pick Jeff Cobb even over will operate or Jeff. Awesome. They operate setup. This next year have incredible year. Your nuts operate ospreys two thousand eighteen was ridiculous. And now he's about to compete against Koto. Bucci for the never overweight, title wrestle kingdom. I think he's twenty nineteen is through roof. I like Jeff Cobb more this Matt's here. Okay. So what's your favorite Jeff Cobb match? Over the past year. I'd say my favorite Jeff Cobb match. Was this latest RO H one? What is the black dudes name? I forgot the black dues name. You don't remember? We wrestle. I forgot the black dudes name. That's not fair. It is fair. You pick them. Now. I remember Jeff Cobb in the match. I just need the black teenage Taylor. John Gresham, legs Evesham. Thank you. Hangman page Jeff Kahn, which just happened while ago. I thought that was really good match when he was that one heels punishment Martinez issue a really good match. So I think Jeff carbon had a couple of good matches issue. So I'm I'll leave you alone after this. So we Kenny mega versus juicier Cottam. We had the young bucks versus the golden lovers. We kenya. Mega versus itchy on Tina g one that was bad can be mad Kenny omega versus just maybe just burnt out on beggar when I was thinking list I completely over skit, and I knew all the matches will see as we get deeper into this list. How many cutting omega matches actually chose for shit. But I mean, I feel like I might be like all other wrestling fans, I'm not, you know, burying kidding omega. Like some people doing Twitter and saying like, oh he's overrated this year. You got a horrible year. No. That's not the truth at all. But maybe I just had like omega fatigue. He just been so good that I was like, oh, let me. Pick someone else. But when he would come back. Okay. This again, we'll leave Kenny omega Mon better using Gargano. And she oppa Jeffcott. Yeah. I mean ciampa was. Ciampa better year than Gargano ciampa and. Guard to be just the story ran its course, ROY but Gargano wrestle CNN almost at the beginning. Classic. That was that was good. I would of there for that. We talked about a little bit end your in your best match from Jeff Cobb against the black guy. You don't remember his name? You're picking the guy. Performance on man. Like, Johnny Gargano gets almost is already in the pantheon of the one of the greatest NFC if not the greatest takeover match of all time that that was great. I thought just just on fire. I did I liked all of his matches. Like, I didn't think he had that -ssarily a bad match all year, and I think our Gano sometimes. Yes. Like, I got tired of the feud. I see him every week too. So the yes that might hurt him. He's on daily week daily television where weekly television on the network. Yes. Like, I didn't. April so fucking long ago. It just really. Entire year. I'm not asking your favorite wrestler is three months understand. It seems a little longer ago. So maybe Jeff Cobb was a bit short site 'cause I'm just saying Gargano also wrestles to black. That was pretty good. I'm saying Joppa also wrestled velveteen dreams that was really. I'm just saying and you pick Jeff Cobb. So all right. You can have it you're wrong. And I mean, you didn't pick Cecchi Lynch who had to probably to this is the Indies. You're right. You're right. You're these guys count because we have a separate annex t category. But by omega who she hell. Bush's our help to yet. So who's your pick as we continue along this mega?.
"gargano ciampa" Discussed on Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast
"There's no following that. There's no way that and dry and Johnny are going to be able to come out here and follow that not only did they follow that. But they beat it. They stole the show and had one of the best matches of the year. You know, I think the fact is that if you go through the best matches of twenty eighteen. You could pick pretty much. Any Johnny Gargano takeover match. And you could put all of them on that list. That's how good it is. But you have this amazing match where it can go either way. We don't know, you know, this could be Johnny Gargano crowning moment. This could be whatever Johnny Gargano ends up blues ING, but he gets the standing ovation anyway because he had the match of his life, and as he's leaving outcomes to Moscow ciampa to everybody surprise any turns on him. He turns on him. And you can't believe what you've seen. We've been following these guys from the time, you know, they were both in the cruiserweight classic believe it or not. They were in annexed T, but they were like not even officially signed annex. They were guys that were still on the Indies. But also doing an x t just to it was before the annex business model excuse me. It was before the annexed. He business model became what the antics business model became and they and they weren't winning all the time. You know, then they end up for me a tag team together DIY and people loved him. But the authors painter them out. Champa turns on Gargano ciampa goes away with an injury. He comes back, and then Gargano moment of weakness stomps all over him. We flash forward to wrestlemainia weekend takeover New Orleans this year, and we have the. What was it? It was it was the match where eh exte- had their hands off of it. It was the not the undisputed match. But I think you know, what I'm talking about. You guys are probably going crazy in your cars or in your at the gym right now wherever you are going crazy going it was the unsanctioned match. It was unsanctioned by an XT. And it was Gargano chop a one on one and this match was so brutal. And so believable first of all I remember sitting in the hotel bar after takeover, and I watched Gargano ciampa come into that hotel through the lobbied and stop at the bar, but he came through the lobby and he looked worse than enemy fighters. Look after the fight of their lives. You know? I mean, it was real life. It was to the point. Where I I mean, I'm watching it. And I'm backstage at that show. And I'm watching on the monitor the entire annex t roster is glued to these monitors. Watching this match, and I wasn't alone. When I thought that the memory the Gargano had had had broken chop as a crutch right at one point. He may he went like he was gonna stab him and he stopped right before. And. I'll be damned if I didn't think we're gonna see a man gets stabbed on paper view. I said how are they going to go with this thing? And of course, that was the moment when ciampa. Showed a little bit of vulnerability. Try to prey on Garganas weakness, but bug Gargano Saum coming and Gargano got the win. We go forward. To the rematch. And the rematch was a Chicago streetfight falls count, anywhere. You know, the whole thing and that was the match. Where they tore apart. The ring remember, they they ripped up the canvas they dropped the DT and that match was so beautiful because that was the match work Gargano had ciampa beat. And instead of being Johnny wrestling. Instead of being the good guy. Gargano doesn't do what he normally does Gargano goes against his instincts..
"gargano ciampa" Discussed on Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast
"And I'd say listen all man, I'm a young kid. I don't watch DVD's anymore. Gimme a digital copy of something. He said, okay. You can't me with the digital collection. And it is the story of Johnny Gargano and Tomas O ciampa in twenty eight teen or the story of Kenny omega and Okada whatever twenty sixteen through twenty eighteen which one do you want? I want Gargano chop personally. You know, I think that the Gargano ciampa story. Plays out more like a perfect movie than any other story in wrestling for very long time. I mean, I think people should be talking about Gargano Champa on the HOGAN savage level of storytelling. And this is kind of what happens. No matter how good the storytelling is when it doesn't climax at wrestlemainia five. Maybe never goes down as being as big of a story. But to me, no story. No storyline. No story on the show. Beats this ciampa and Gargano. Let's think about it. And it's told through takeovers, really. And I think I guess part of it is that, you know, an X T only runs, so many takeovers, and the TV is not on the level of takeovers, but the you know, I feel like like an x t. Basically runs like the old WWE used to run in the sense that it wasn't about the TV necessarily. There's some great stuff happening on annex t TV annex TV is actually very underrated. But it's these takeovers and annexed he put out what's five five of the best. Wrestling shows of the year. And they only put out five they went five for five this year with takeovers and a lot of that was due to the story being told between Tomasz, oh ciampa and Johnny Gargano. It starts in Philadelphia. It starts in January of this year the night before the Royal rumble. Of course, Tomasz ciampa has been out with an injury for the better part of the year before Gargano and Champa had been tag team chump turned on Gargano, but was injured at the time. So there was never any payoff or anything. So he just kind of disappeared. Meanwhile, Gargano went through a bit of a losing streak, and then came out of it and became one of if not the biggest good guys in annex t. We go to takeover Philadelphia. And I was noticing at the time of this recording on Wednesday of this week that this the match that I'm about to talk about was getting some love. And it's the first time I've heard about the match since it happened for the most part just because so much went down after it. But that matches and dre versus Johnny Gargano what I want you to do is go in when you're going, and you're looking at you go to the WB network look at that Titus O'Neil thing watch him hammer people when he gets in the ring because he's so pissed about sliding under it then go to takeover Philadelphia from January of this year and watch that Andre Almaz versus Johnny Gargano match. We Candice laret and Zelina Vegas's eventually thea. Trinidad Selena Vega getting involved in everything was just so well done. I remember watching that show. And you know, it was before twenty eight team did to take. Over's what twenty eighteen did to take overs? Twenty eight team brought a whole new level of expectation to takeovers, and they have not disappointed yet. It was the streetfighting Philadelphia between Adam Cole and Alastair black. And that was the second to last match. It was that match and the championship match going on. And I said I think I'm sending with Maria menounos at the time. And I said, well, I don't know how the main event quote unquote is going to compete with that. I said Adam Cole and Alastair black just stole the show..
"gargano ciampa" Discussed on Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast
"Because those are my brothers, and they understand the very delicate sort of intricate levels of where can we go with this thing? You know, I think it's super important that we acknowledge that it Seth and dean. Doing this. Because I think if anybody knows exactly that tight rope line to walk with this thing. It's those guys because those tears that were coming down. Seth Rollins face were real life tears. I get that. That's a real life thing that I think both those guys are feeling. Well, let's not forget to not yet sentimental, but WWE does an amazing job. We see it out in supporting good causes. Yes. I know I would guess like ninety nine point nine percent. Inaccurate here that they were handling it with the most sensitivity. I'm sure that it was it. This was all done proper, right? Absolutely. Absolutely. And you know, yeah. Yeah. I'm not the most sensitive guy in the world. And I love wrestling so much. I just think it's such a great story. But I totally get where you're coming from. Yeah. I don't think you're shocked. I don't think I'm shocked. I think we kind of knew where everybody was going to land on that. One. Didn't don't you. Yeah. You don't want to admit it. But you knew you know. Real quick. Now, always still have you number two is I don't know how closely I'm sure you've been following pretty closely because you were down there for the TV tapings. The Gargano he'll turn I just, you know, I say Gargano, he'll turn is my number two story. But man annex t is just a to me under a new renaissance like you, and I used to talk about next he constantly, you know, we went on the first road trip when it was Sasha banks, and Kevin Owens and that whole class. We were there when it was the class of nakimora and Samoa Joe in those guys, but right now. Annex t may be as good as it's ever been. I mean, the undisputed era the word the tag match between the undisputed Aaron the war raiders. A couple of weeks ago was just off the charts. And that was just a TV match every takeover is back to being like super super super amazing. The Gargano ciampa war the whole series of matches was among the best. You could ever hope to see. I don't think anybody saw this coming where Gargano would be the one who attacked Alastair black. I loved that. And the fact that Trump is coming back. And now saying he's proud of Gargano the idea that that ciampa is still champion when you would have sworn that he won that title on TV. I'm sure he's just gonna lose it at the pay per view. And he's still holding onto the thing. I think annexed is running on all cylinders. I love this Gargano. He'll turn because I'm interested in where it's going. I can't tell you. I don't read the spoilers. And I can't one hundred percent tell you where this is going, but annex t is built my faith in the product so much that I believe it's going to an amazing place agree. And I it's electric. It's interesting to you know, I don't read a lot of I don't read the net stuff on just kind of keep in my own little silo does sheets he is in DeKalb, but interesting here in some of those guys say, they're really appreciating their moment there. And I think that's powerful to know that you you don't you only get so much time typically in annexed and hear that some of them just know what they have in this moment beat her a little longer that to me is like that says it all and I mean, and you know, from talking to him, I'm sure in the limited. You know, whatever limited conversations you've had with him. Maybe they've been lengthy conversation. But. You know in talking to the guy like as far as wrestling goes. Triple h is is a genius. And like, I think about that. Sometimes the idea that these annexed t guys and girls get one on one FaceTime on a regular basis with triple h and gang get to kind of allow triple h and Shawn Michaels and the and Matt bloom and the guys in the people Sarah Amano, the people in the performance center to guide their careers on a regular basis on some level..
"gargano ciampa" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast
"I don't know that Joe will ever be in a better position to be champion. Hopefully he is, but he's not thirty two, you know, I mean, so how, how many rotations to the top is he gonna have and are there better matchups for Joe's a heel than AJ retaining the title. A baby face and who can recover better from a loss. Where are you on on this? Some somewhat of a booking dilemma. I would say I think people would be shocked if Samoa Joe won the WWE championship at this show for couple of reasons. Number one, Samoa Joe being champion would shock people. Number two, the idea of the WWE championship really changing hands at all. 'cause AJ's had the title for so long, but especially people still the Saudi Arabia show kind of started training the audience as to what these shows are, and they're not a pay per view right on some levels. They're Iger. It's a stadium show. It's legends coming out, it's dream matches. But on storyline wise, they don't seem to be as significant as paper views. Are you know what I mean? Like the the stuff that happens. Like if you look at wrestlemainia and you look at the Royal rumble, I guess. She was the one that was right after the grades Romo had like like crazy moments and dream edges, and it was a huge show, but you didn't sit there the day after the greatest Royal rumble going, oh my God. Where are we going next? And I think it's the same a, you don't think of super showdown the way you think of summer slam. Right? And that's why I don't think people think that we're looking at major title changes here, and that's one of the reasons why I think we should have a major title change here. I think we need to be reminded of the vulnerability of AJ styles. I think that the same way, Johnny Gargano ciampa gotten his head and Gargano acted way more vicious than he should've as a good guy and it cost Gargano. I think that the same should be true for AJ styles. I think that maybe some, oh, Joe is in his head and maybe page obviously has problems with Samoa. Joe. Right. What is she going to do. When Samoa Joe has the power of that championship. There's nothing she can do now. Samoa Joe's the champion. She doesn't like him, but what she going to do. I, I don't know. I don't have a thought of like, here's what I think is going to happen because you're right. It could go either way, but what I want to happen, I want some oah- Joe to to win the championship. It super showdown. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's it's going to be good match. It's it's, it's a good feud. I think it's been good for both guys so far. What if you thought of the way that the the intensity and personal nature of the feud has been all hits. It's and MRs. Oh, MRs in terms of the way that they've approach trying to sell this match? I think it's been primarily hits. You know, I think Joe is just proving himself on just a regular basis. You know, I was from from summer slam on, I think I was hook line and sinker. When Joe middle of the match is cutting promos on AJ's wife. And I'm just believing it. You know, I think that's where you've got me and I'm like, okay, I'm on board with this whole thing. You know. I think that it's interesting because I think that the e. The Samoa, Joe going to age as house thing that I certainly not amiss. I think I liked the way the show ended on that. I liked all of it. I think it is a creative, good indication of what something like that looks like an PG era. You know, because I think that same story that same storyline was done. I mean that that was very different from when Steve Austin broke into Brian hillman's house that was very different from when triple h broke into radio ordinance house down there. It was just different, not bad, but it just let you know that. Okay. We're not going to level ten. We're going to stop at eight and maybe it's okay to stop at eight because Joe is the type of performer that even though you're stopping at eight, he can sell you on it and I'm sold on it. And so for me, it's been, it's been hits..
"gargano ciampa" Discussed on Cheap Heat
"I'll tell you right now. You know. Becky Lynch. I can't do Justice by telling you about Becky Lynch. You have to see, in my opinion, you have to see what she's doing. Even though it's been disappointing maybe with how they're getting there. I, you have to eventually see the payoff of Daniel Bryan him is. Yeah. I think I think certainly annex t TV you're getting a lot of reasons. The Gargano ciampa story is a reason to watch seeing the emergence of young Leo rush is a reason to watch undisputed era. A druid honestly, to drew Manion drew mcintyre's progression where he eventually ends up. I think it'll be fun to watch. Go ahead, Greg. Sorry, you know, I was gonna say to when you mentioned Daniel Bryan and the MS, I think that applies to a bunch of different storylines as. As the reason to watch, honestly, because. There in the middle of telling so many different stories. And honestly, it's just like with the TV show that's halfway through a season like a movie at its halfway point. This is right when there's that little low anyway. So it's expected to a feel like this, but the in the middle of telling these stories, and if you care about where it's going to end up, then this is why you keep watching from week to week and day O'Brien in the MS is the perfect example of that. Like they had that mixed tag match that everybody knew was just, you know, a chapter in a bigger story and we need this to get to where we're gonna go. And that's, that's the reason I keep watching just to see how they get to the end. I think that's a good reason also, but I'm trying to think of. Sorry, while you were talking, I was all sitting here trying to think of other reasons we tweak. I'd be excited to check out Rene on commentary if you haven't seen that. I also really love graves on smackdown. You know, he doesn't have as much room on raw, but if you turn into tune into smackdown, there's some good room for graves to really be sort of the classic bad guy commentator and I enjoy that too. I haven't listened. I, I'm probably a shell for this, but to me, there's still a lot of things to watch for. I'm not saying on a week to week basis. You're not gonna have time. You're mad, but potentially if it's worse now than like it's ever been, it's way better now my opinion than it was in like a lot of spots in two thousand seven, two thousand eight. I, there's a lot more reason to watch by the way. What about a few weeks ago, the new day spot was Booker t was amazing Trish coming out in your Upton Elias was fun. This this seems interesting. Andrew writes us, I'm male, tad morbid, but here we go watching the Emmys Monday with my wife and the and the in memoriam segment comes on. And of course, I'm hoping to see a snippet of annual night heart. Of course, it's no surprise that he didn't make the cut. However, it got me thinking, obviously, Hollywood mainstream show biz in general, has always tried to keep wrestling as far away wrassling as far away as possible. But shouldn't there be some recognition of it as entertainment, trying to think of town that would make the grade for an Oscar slash EMMY in memoriam upon their demise and only rock Encinas. Standout parentheses? Sorry, HOGAN, you played yourself. When a guy like stone cold should clearly make it.
"gargano ciampa" Discussed on The Jim Ross Report
"Want to check that out. I gotta believe they'll sell that that will be an out quicker sooner than later in the Nassau Coliseum on long, Long Island, Long Island. It's hard for me with Okla maxim, say Long Island, muck of a Jewish fellow from Long Island. I can't do it. I'm trying to work on that. The linguistics of that. So congratulates the Rhonda. Again, she's being maligned. McCaw. She has a quote unquote paid her dues. I find it re amazing the somebody on Twitter with thirteen followers who apparently think they have all the knowledge in the world of what who, who's do what? What say that she does? She doesn't deserve. The title because she has quote unquote, paid her dues. Now, what the hell does that mean? What is paying your dues main in Europe? Nak humor. And I don't know that any of us, including myself, it's been around longer than dirt would say, well, this is what you've got to pay your dues stupid. I liked the velveteen dream mentioned on this program. I think this Gidel headline wrestlemania someday. There's no reason he cannot. He has charisma, imagination athleticism. He's bold and he has no fear of trying things different. Hey, when a cat goes out there, unbeknownst to upper management with call me up thence on his back his tights. He's got some Mahoney's. I like that. So he's a kid had a good week could have been solved for the week on own another week. I love the card and Herbie talk about inex- t the title matches were all good. You know, Gargano ciampa coal, ricochet North American title. By the way, my first favorite North American champion was a cowboy Bill watts, tablet around long time and car. You're saying. And Shannon baiser had a great whims match. All good stuff. I was tipped to name the eagles much lower knocker the week because they broke the all time. Bestselling album record is a sentimental choice for me because my wife, Janet love the eagles would allow their concerts as big business Russ, so they're they, they're hotel. California's number three, you know, just if your eagles Marc like I am, then you gotta love this news, but without a doubt, ladies and gentlemen, these father knocker of the week goes to the Queen of soul, a wrestle mania alumni, Aretha Franklin who passed away just a few days ago, a voice from heaven. Amazing presence. And even though Madonna Konadu donor at the ward show that I didn't watch. I read about saw the exert Madonna was about putting over Madonna. He might have been a great idea and they're quote unquote, riders room, this ridicule. Madonna comes back. She's six years old. She's gonna put over Aretha she did put over Raith more on that. The goofy sexes. But our respect and our condolences to the three ends the fans of the Queen of soul who made more than one Mark in a WW environment. And we were sure and our fans nothing, but the very best she was treasurer to listen to the betting. Let me tell you something Aretha lacked her severe Retha Aretha liked being a diva she played her role. She was that was her character. When should miss Franklin came onto the set artery Hirsch run through sound checker, whatever he knew who the Bosh was, and I, I really admire that. She never lost that desire for perfection. So. The slobber knocker the week on the Jim Russia fort. From the mighty Westwood One, Aretha Franklin. Wreck. Well, tit coup goofy time. I know some of you like this award. I kind of think it's fun remembers mostly all in fun. Don't take things too seriously, please. It's about wrassling. He's not about life and no wrestling isn't life. Life is life. Wrestling could be a small part of your life as it has been a part of mine for ever, but it's not life and figure that you know, Jerry Lawler I'll talk about by our times or life and times this Thursday night is eighties in Chicago, Nicole Smith of Russell's zones going to be our EMC. It's gonna be fun show you get your tickets at the box office at in at the zanies in Rosemont the king and JR going to have some fun answer your questions. Big greets autographs, photo ops, all the good stuff at and you want to go online, get your tickets to having your hand, you get there. It's Rosemont dot zanies, dot com..
Madonna Criticized Over MTV VMAs Tribute to Aretha Franklin
"But without a doubt, ladies and gentlemen, these father knocker of the week goes to the Queen of soul, a wrestle mania alumni, Aretha Franklin who passed away just a few days ago, a voice from heaven. Amazing presence. And even though Madonna Konadu donor at the ward show that I didn't watch. I read about saw the exert Madonna was about putting over Madonna. He might have been a great idea and they're quote unquote, riders room, this ridicule. Madonna comes back. She's six years old. She's gonna put over Aretha she did put over Raith more on that. The goofy sexes. But our respect and our condolences to the three ends the fans of the Queen of soul who made more than one Mark in a WW environment. And we were sure and our fans nothing, but the very best she was treasurer to listen to the betting. Let me tell you something Aretha lacked her severe Retha Aretha liked being a diva she played her role. She was that was her character. When should miss Franklin came onto the set artery Hirsch run through sound checker, whatever he knew who the Bosh was, and I, I really admire that. She never lost that desire for perfection.
"gargano ciampa" Discussed on Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast
"I guess I wouldn't be shocked if rigorous one, but I hope again, how did Adam Cole wins that I loved the undisputed era. It'll be a year by the way, this is what's important takeover. Brooklyn four marks one year since Adam. Cole showed up joined by Bobby fish and Kyle o. Reilly and the undisputed era I made their Mark. On an XT and he did that in the championship match. So. You know, I think that that will probably be brought up. I think they'll be something to that, but this marks the end. This is the anniversary for the undisputed era. And I think that it's important to mention. You'll also have speaking of velveteen dream. You got velveteen dream versus e c three perfect match in the sense that you look at all the championship matches and you go what's left for the velveteen dream in EC three. Well, I've got an idea thout injuring versus three. I think another two guys. I don't think they're gonna steal the show, but I think they're gonna make an attempt. I think the both of them wanna steal the show. And so I think you're gonna see something spectacular. I don't think there's one match on this show that is not going to be spectacular. I don't think there's one match on this show that makes you go, oh yeah, that'd be cool. Every match on this show feels very, very special and e c three versus velveteen dreams. One of them, it's also interesting because I feel like both guys need the win. Both guys need the spotlight on a pay per view, velveteen dream. He's clearly a future superstar, right? Like he's clearly one of the guys that you leave annexed t- talking about whenever you go to an annex t show, but he's also one of the guys that because his character so strong and his work is so strong, he can afford to lose without really looking bad. He loses. And I think that it's time for for him to win now easy, three. He wasn't at the last. I mean, he was apple last takeover. He did the kickoff show with us, but he wasn't. He didn't have a match. And the one before that was his first takeover when he was in that ladder match. So he hasn't had a pay per view win yet. They're clearly starting something with Reeves, NEC, three, if you've been watching TV. So I wouldn't be surprised if Kona Reeves gets somehow involved in this thing and cost him the match because I do think velveteen dream deserves it and Kona. Reeves said something very interesting on TV which was we could have been best friends, but you know whatever. He said he did his catchphrase after that. So I wouldn't be surprised if Kona reas becomes best friends with the velveteen dream. Who will. I think. Great. I wouldn't be surprised if he teams up with velveteen dream and cost EC three, the match. And we see Kona Reeves and valvoline dream is as an allied payer coming off of this takeover. And of course the championship match brilliant work by an XT brilliant work. It's now a last man standing match between Johnny Gargano and to Moscow ciampa. Now I'm always gonna. Think it's a risk. To do this match? I think just because the last two of been so good. I thought it was a risk last time to do Gargano ciampa too because the first one was so good, but the second one was so good. So it makes me think that the third one, it's a little bit less of a risk. I worry for these for the health of these two men because they're going to put each other through all the torture that a human body can withstand for the sake of our entertainment. I loved. Loved the video that they did explaining why Elster black wasn't involved. And I talked about this last week on the podcast that the thing about annex t is that it's taped in advance, so you need to cut and paste to try to figure out storylines if they change right before pay per view. And that's exactly what happened here. It was supposed to be a triple threat match between Johnny Gargano Tomas o. ciampa announced her black Alastair blankets injured. What are you? Gonna? Do they make it a one on one match? But in order to explain the absence of Alastair black, they show him getting jumped in a parking lot, but they showed it in a way that I haven't seen before. It was like the annex t version of who shot Mr. burns, right? Gargano walks past..
"gargano ciampa" Discussed on Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast
"And then you've also got the summer slam show itself. There is a package that was shown at wrestlemainia twenty seven before the MS versus Johnson a match, and it was the MS video package, and it was about two minutes explaining the story of the MS. And within that video package, I was finally sold on the MS, and I was finally sold on the match. It was one of the best videos. I remember the is evidently remember you sitting at the same in Every every room. room so good. They're showing the real world and it was. It was amazing, right? Yes. I think they need match wasn't but the that definitely I'm talking about the pack. Yes, I know they need to by the way you don't need to be sneaking your shots in at the MS. That's unfair. They need to do something like that to remind us of this story between Daniel Bryan and the MS and go back to annex t when the MS was the coach, they need to. I hope they do it next week if they don't do it next week, do it right before the match at summer sleaze because this is. You know, I don't wanna say savage HOGAN level, but if you told this story right, could be you can have the conversation. It could be, you know, this is to me the most compelling long-term story in WWE right now, not Gargano ciampa that's annex t, but in WWE main roster, there is no story with more potential for deep storytelling than the MS versus Daniel Bryan, and it's weird that they delayed the official announcement of the match a week because I almost wish they'd announced it last. You could have. Yeah. I mean, I don't know why not and spent the next two weeks building. There was also no explanation as to why we were told that the MS was here connected via satellite and then clearly in the building because Dan O'Brien. I love the fact that he was live on set for MS MRs when that's a reality, your. Should be in your house. But maybe we finding out to the MS was lying. That's okay. But yes, I do think that some due diligence needs to be done before we run out of time. David Greco number one story of the week, I came to the realization of the cure for Roman reigns. Anybody that's out there, and it came to me as I was watching raw this week and the tremendous ovation that Seth Rollins received. Everybody thinks that the way to send their message to the WWE about Roman reigns is to Roman reigns, and it's simply not the case because it's noise and as long as a reaction is happening, they're sticking to this the key to letting WWE if you don't want Roman reigns, there want Roman reigns. There cheer for him boo for whatever you want. But you hear this all the time. And I think that the negativity that people have towards Roman reigns needs to be channeled into positively towards something else, power of positive thinking the new day. But if set rounds gets Ovation's like he got on raw everywhere that he goes, they're going to have no choice, but to put the title on the guy that I think they should be putting the title on, which is Seth Rollins. That's just that to me is my number one. That's the that's that's kind of the realization I achieved this week. They have a just riches on that roster right now. So much talent. They have so many guys that people wanna see must see wrestlers on that roster. I am tired of the Roman Brock scenario. Yeah, I really am and they're throwing l, you know, little elements in like Paul Heyman they get me to intrigued for summer slam for sure, and bronze showman Holden money in the Bank briefcase or Kevin or Kevin Owens is another one, but as far as Brock and Roman. It's been there. It's done that people hated at wrestlemainia thirty four. You made a point on busted open, which I thought was a great one. You could get a worse reaction at summer slam than he did at wrestlemainia thirty four. And honestly, that's sad. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I came out of wrestlemainia thirty four saying number one. That was a top five wrestlemainia number two. I was depressed because the way that it ended because how the crowd reacted, I don't want that in Brooklyn..
"gargano ciampa" Discussed on Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast
"You know if we're when Allister black had come back into the full because that's maybe when you bring him back in right is after summer slam. And then you can kind of rekindle this feud as we get closer to wrestlemainia in New York and New Jersey. I think that's probably the way to go. But again, this is this is the match if we do get one on one between Gargano and Champa. This is the match that I've been looking forward to because it's for a title, right? So we've only got one week to tell that story though, and we've got to do it probably through packages. That's fine. You know, since that show is that show the show before takeovers taped, right? I mean, they wouldn't have. I mean, I think so, yeah, has to has to be so that means that theoretically we would need to do some editing and and which is fine. They've done that before. Sure, through promos and things like that. And because again, this is an ongoing story. This is just another chapter in that book. Right? So I'm excited. For it, and I want to see this keep going. And again, this is another wrinkle because Boyne I've talked about, bullies like, all right, let's have a Helena sell. Let's have a full count anyway. You don't need any of that. It's for the next pitcher. Yeah, and and if you can trust anybody to tell a new story when you don't think that there's a new story to be told, it's those two. Yes, there is part of me though the still wishes, and maybe it was wishful thinking what the title win that we could start to see those guys drift into the main roster of annex t not the main roster main roster, but the roster of annex t only because the Gargano ciampa stuff has been such a standout at those takeover shows all the takeovers. I mean this year, and I guess last year to have just been so great the getting better and somehow they keep getting better. Yeah, but it's always like an amazing show and then also over here, something even more amazing those matches that they have stand outside. I'd of the show if that makes sense. It does. And that story stands outside of annex t it's so specialized. So I almost I'm ready for something and that was what Alastair black I think was doing that draws boat those guys back in to the to the thread of the full annexed t story where velveteen dream exists, where LARs Sullivan exists, where all these guys exist. I think that that that is where this goes and that's where it should go. And my only fear is when this is over and one of them are both of them go to the main roster. Yeah. Yeah, because that's when we're going to see the end of this story. You don't think it'll continue on to the main roster now, I don't. Well, Sam Houston and Kevin owns continued and down version. We saw an XT and I don't think this is a few that you can water down. Do you? You never know there's there are because that is the prevailing sort of. That's what happens. Generally. But there's always the exception. You know what I mean for every person that you'd go. I hope Kenny omega and the young bucks like every time I say Kenny omega, and the young buck should go to WWE. There are dozens of people there to tell me you're out of your mind for saying that they're doing better in new Japan. WWE would destroy them for every person that's come from outside of WWE or this come from t that has not been used properly on the main roster. There's AJ styles. That's true. You know what I mean? There's always those exceptions that breakthrough. There's the Samoa Joe's. Yeah, and it's probably split fifty fifty. I will say this and I look at it completely different because you just brought up the young bucks and Kenny omega. I don't look about it as the WW would ruin them. I think it would ruin a lot of what's going on outside the WWE. Would we be talking about all in being sold out if the young bucks, right? You know, what are we talking about? Right? Do Japan and ring of honor being at Madison Square Garden if they were in the WWE. So differently than that, maybe not going to WWE. Better for the wrestling businesses, a whole?.
"gargano ciampa" Discussed on Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast
"And I said, last week that I thought it was good because it took ciampa away from Nestle from just being attached to Johnny Gargano, and some people were like, what are you talking about? Gargano invested in the title when he's invested in the story. It doesn't take him away at all. And what I'm more meant was after this pay per view should ciampa leave with the annex t championship. It is a direct pathway into another story. Anybody else challenging for that title gives them an excuse to not be involved with Johnny Gargano. Not that I couldn't watch those guys, you know, be involved together forever. Yeah, but it it is an. Easy out to a story that were deeply ingrained in. So I still kind of stand by that, but you know the theory and I'm not, I don't really. We don't really do the NFC spoilers on this podcast because we don't do it on bus. Oh, it's just too much like who wants to like a in four weeks. This is going to happen like, okay, I'll takes the fun out. I watch it four weeks, but the theory, the prevailing theory going around is that the natural main event for takeover Brooklyn would be the triple threat, right? That's what people are talking about. Our Gano ciampa Alastair black if Alastair black is out first of all, it's a shame because as much as we talk about, you know, these matches between and Gargano Alastair black is awesome. Awesome. Do you want to see the two guys go for it? Do you wanna see Gargano ciampa three third takeover in a row this time for the NFC championship, if Alastair black, can't make it or do you wanna see some kind of mix up happened there? Well, I I wanna see it and I'll tell you why it's it's something they wanna see what pronouns Powell. I wanna see Champa and Gargano three. Okay. At an takeover because of what you just said. And that is because the biggest difference between this and all the rest is that an extension, he talked start talking about stipulations and loser leave annex t and all this other type stuff. Let's make it simple. This time, it's for the next title. We don't need to do a no-holds-barred. We don't Helena. Helen, nothing. It's it's for the next title, Sam. Why do we love annex t because it's simple. It's real men fighting for real championships that NFC championship to me means a lot more than the WWE championship or the universal title. Why? Because it's old school, the whole feelings because it made event shows right. Was the last time AJ style has made event at a show with that championship. Right. So to me, why not make it just for the next championship? That's enough. This is the best feud going in wrestling. Do you worry at all? And this was this is it's a worry that I have. I don't think it's necessarily realistic, but there is part of me that ends up worrying that they've gone to the well one too many times. I felt the same way at the last takeover I was like, are we really doing the rematch already? I almost want to stretch this out of year before, see the rematch and then I saw the rematch and I went, oh my God, that was amazing. It's beautiful. I mean, some of the best storytelling in years went down in that match. So are we going back to the well one too many times to try to do this a third time in such quick order? Or is this the story that could just go on forever while maybe now after this you take a little bit of a break, maybe you do. Take a break and three, and then you take a brand, you take a break because we don't know..
"gargano ciampa" Discussed on Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast
"And of course, you know, they put so much into these takeovers that that's usually where stuff like that happens. But Tomasz oh, ciampa is as outside the box as any superstar in that promotion has been, it really feels to me like Tomasz, oh, ciampa has to be triple h is pep project. You know, I think that I think when I watch annex t I go like, okay, I think I think Alastair black is triple h is pet project. I think Tomasz oh, ciampa is triple ages pet project. When I look at valvoline dream, I think that the entire WWE is aware that he's gonna be a star. I think everybody that looks at large Sullivan is like, oh, we're going to be able to do something with him. You know, I think if you show Vince McMahon LARs Sullivan, he immediately goes, yeah, we're going to be able to do something with him, but I think and I think that I think the velveteen dream is in that category too. You know, I think that some of the guys the undisputed era, for example, I think those are guys that triple h likes and and wants to see, okay, what are these guys have? But just based on booking based on what I see when I watched the TV these are all assumptions based on my opinion. When I watched the show, I really feel like Tomasz, oh, ciampa and Alastair black. Our triple h is to pet projects, and I think that what this title win does for ciampa is it takes him out of the story of Johnny Gargano. So ciampa did everything in his power, and he's so great ciampa keeps that. Character alive by staying in character on Twitter by not selling t shirts, there is no evidence. I would imagine he doesn't do interviews. I would love to have to Moscow chomp on this podcast, but I would imagine he would stay in character the whole time. And that's part of what makes this so compelling is that you know with the Gargano story, you don't even feel like Johnny Gargano was doing character. Johnny Gargano is Mr. wrestling. He is this guy that he's portraying right. You started to feel like as as over the top evil as ciampa is in, was you feel as you're watching like that's really him. That's who that guy is. And I think that that that is what that extra layer. He's one of the great storytellers in there right now, and I think you know, triple h every time he does an interview wet, not every time, but every time he gets asked about it, triple h historically in interviews has talked a lot about the art of storytelling in the ring. You know, he's talked about, you know how important it is and everything. And I think that that is something that he clearly passes along Shawn Michaels the same way. I'm sure Shawn Michaels pass those along to. I love to Moscow ciampa as NFC champion. You know, it's been awhile since there was a good, he'll champion, I guess Bobby rude was. But Bobby rude was so popular because of the entrance music and because of the whole deal that he was doing that. It wasn't really just that dirty dastardly, bad guy ciampa was going out of his way to tell a story with Allistair black. As soon as he beat Gargano ciampa started tweeting and talking about how much he wanted to take out the next champion. Alastair black and still in all of our minds because the last two takeover main events or so good specifically the last takeover. The story that was told between Gargano and Champa was one of the great stories that was ever been told in a wrestling match. I really think that the Gargano ciampa story, what I believe will eventually become at least three parts..
"gargano ciampa" Discussed on E&C's Pod of Awesomeness
"Yeah, here's what I, here's here's what I liked about it is that it got a lot of time, right? It was from, like, I mean, what lasts? Twenty five thirty minutes of the show pretty much and I like it because obviously it had like a big fight field, which I like. I also have been pretty. Opinionated as far as Moscow ciampa goes as far as the work he's doing being a pure, he'll not having an qualities. I think it's a lost art. I think he's he's doing great with it. And I think that the way they built the match was a classic way to build a title match where when you get to the or the match, and then when you get to the finish everything, they've done mean something. When you get to the finish, you get the appropriate reactions that an emotion that you're looking to get. And I thought they built a really well thought they pace it really well, and it was it was something where they did some really different stuff. Interesting stuff, cool stuff, but it all made sense and they sold everything the way was supposed to be sold. And I, I was big fan of the match fan, both guys. I thought it was great. Yeah, you know, I thought when I first heard it announced that it was taking place know full sail, and I was like, oh, man. Why wouldn't they say that for a takeover? But. I really liked it being in that intimate surrounding with those extremely extremely vocal annex t loyalists I guess, for lack of a better term. So I, I actually liked the fact that he did have that big fight field, but that by the end everyone was standing up. Everyone was like smacking their heads. Everyone was just just, intuitive is really well told really well done. Big fan of both guys can't wait to see where it goes from there to, you know, with Gargano in the mix and those three having, you know, possibly triple threat. I mean that that's just that's money right there. I, yeah, I think to go back to what you said about about being in that setting. I think it's important to note that you also don't wanna condition the fans at the only time. Something big happens. It's outta takeover. You know, these are the loyal fans that the come to Orlando every time there's a TV taping, and there should be big moments there. They took place there before they went on the road. The big moments should happen there. And this shocking think too when you know, people aren't expecting, big title change. I remember when back in the day I was I was feuding with Booker t. or the international championship, and I beat him on a live event somewhere and to me that doesn't happen enough either. And I thought that was a really cool thing, and it was almost like people were shocked at the finish like, oh, wait, they're gonna come back out and something's going to happen in. This won't happen, but it didn't. And I think when you get those moments where people give me little the surprised or shocked that something big happened in front of them, I think that's a cool thing. Well, and you can tell by the reaction. Of the audience that that's that's the ideal reaction you want. Want to heal goes over. The title is the baby faces completely ripped off. He will have so many talking points going forward. So it helped it helped him in the long run. And then with Gargano in the mix at the end, it's really well done. It goes back to, I really hope that all three of those guys eventually get this type of canvas in either smackdown raw, you know, because there's so many annex t folks that show they can do it when they're giving it, and then it doesn't always translate to, you know, quote, unquote, the main roster, it'd be really nice to see all three of these guys be able to come in and really show what they can do. You know, black. It's a, it was a strange time to be champion basically because the Gargano ciampa you know, angle was so strong that nothing could main event against it. It had to be the main event because it was such a built in well-told layered story that you know black was just getting opponents. And that was really the story. He was just getting opponents. So he never really got to catch fire the way I think he could as champion..
"gargano ciampa" Discussed on Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast
"Oh the irony was just seeping through me as out it was terrific i thought it was really really something special and it's amazing people backstage were calling him johnny last match johny main events johnny wrestling is even beyond johnny wrestling at this point to to to to sit there and see that whole thing happened was just it's like nothing i've ever seen before in to watch somebody like we were marveling in january at annex takeover philly that after his title match within dry gargano had been a part of a match of the year candidate and how often do you have a match of the year candidate in january okay using that's rare try having to match of the year candidates by april because to takeovers in a row gargano steals the show without any questions asked and it was a very long match and every single second counted you weren't leaving thinking like oh they could've shaved off a little bit here it should no no every single second counted every movement meant something it was a true payoff climax of a year long billed between these two ex best friends and it was amazing because clearly this wasn't supposed to last a year clearly gargano and ciampa we're supposed to get their hands on each other a lot sooner but somehow chop having that injury disappearing from tv reappearing with a much longer beard and many more muscles and way tanner shit made it so much more special and made it so that we were really that like this whole story about gargano had been told in the meantime we were just just really we were at a fever pitch waiting for this match to finally happen and the fact that it didn't disappoint is a really really amazing thing so unbelievable takeover unbelievable a listen to this guy on on facebook tommy says okada had four match to the candidates in the first four months of last year okay everything okada has ever done is amazing i understand but watch what gargano was doing every single opportunity he gets he's knocking it out of the park and it's it's interesting that gargano is back it says meltzer allegedly has already called gargano ciampa the greatest wwe match of all time it's a big statement.
"gargano ciampa" Discussed on The Corner
"Give me so anyway the reason roger sean don't to win the title they've established a few with the undisputed era of autism pain don't either title they need to move up and if bobby fisher hurt it puts the undisputed err on the shelf so it seems that the logical thing to do is here is have strong done win the title which is a weird perry nontax non tank teams actually winning the boat i gotta move on hating each other quicker than gargano ciampa what's on the second start hating each other really quick and drop drop the belts to the next tim one has to go he'll or something take off them we're just going beat them tim six one st profits warmachine about today byu one of the real tacky you got realize teams that one time i agree but i think without watching it exterior have no clue what's going on with weak as as according to show i'm gonna go rather sean pita yeah i feel so to into such hate pedone is chase the guys hit he'll be hill near right i mean to chatter he only so many bouts i know roger strong is a better he'll he was a terrible baby ring ivana as not a really good face annex t he was a great healer pwg but that being said this i feel like this is the course that they're going because i don't know what else to do.