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The Whitmer Kidnapping Defendant Who Was Trapped by the FBI

The Dinesh D'Souza Podcast

02:23 min | 1 d ago

The Whitmer Kidnapping Defendant Who Was Trapped by the FBI

"The indefatigable Julie Kelly has tracked down one of the Whitmer kidnapping defendants. This is the guy who got off. He was exonerated because the jury realized that he had been entrapped by the FBI and Julie has an exclusive interview with this guy. His name is Brandon casar down. But and he's gone through a horrible two year ordeal. Involving losing his job involving incarceration. Of course, the familiar FBI raid, the kind of massive demonstration of power almost a shock and awe type of campaign. So Julie gives a little bit of background. She says that this fellow Brandon cassata was charged along with other defendants, 5 defendants, Adam Fox, Thai garden, Caleb Franks Barry Croft, and a guy named Daniel Harris. These are the people who were charged. Now, what the interview reveals is the sort of naivete of these guys and how they were targets of the FBI from the beginning. And by the beginning, I mean, before the plot was even hatched. That's what's so telling about it. So here's talking now to Julie. And he says, you know, I was kind of locked down under a COVID court. I was stuck in my apartment with most of my family out of state. I was just trying to find people to network with. So this is the COVID frustration and the anger, by the way, at the left and imposing these lockdowns, interestingly, that was a factor here in what got these guys to demonize Whitmer and think, oh yeah, it'd be kind of cool if we so these are big talkers, these are guys who buy and large have difficult lives with not a whole lot going on and they're looking for other like minded people who give them a sense of camaraderie. So what happens is this fellow brand in Casa goes online and in June, a leader of a group called the Wolverine Watchmen, a self styled kind of militia group, basically tells casar that they are inviting him to firearms training in Michigan. Firearm streams. This guy's like, yeah, in lockdown, I wanna get out of the house. Little does he know that this being organized by not a guy named quote big Dan. And guess who big Dan is? An FBI informant. He is in a sense cooking up the plot.

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Biden to urge local leaders to boost public safety spending

AP News Radio

00:41 sec | 4 d ago

Biden to urge local leaders to boost public safety spending

"President president president president Biden Biden Biden Biden will will will will host host host host a a a a public public public public safety safety safety safety meeting meeting meeting meeting today today today today at at at at the the the the White White White White House House House House the the the afternoon afternoon afternoon event event event in in in the the the rose rose rose garden garden garden will will will feature feature feature mayors mayors mayors and and and police police police chiefs chiefs chiefs discussing discussing discussing how how how they're they're they're spending spending spending money money money from from from a a a nearly nearly nearly two two two trillion trillion trillion dollar dollar dollar Kobe Kobe Kobe nineteen nineteen nineteen relief relief relief package package package on on on policing policing policing and and and public public public safety safety safety a a a senior senior senior administration administration administration official official official speaking speaking speaking on on on condition condition condition of of of anonymity anonymity anonymity so so so as as as president president president Biden Biden Biden what what what reads reads reads cities cities cities to to to spend spend spend even even even more more more the the the money money money on on on public public public safety safety safety and and and crime crime crime prevention prevention prevention before before before the the the summer summer summer months months months when when when there's there's there's usually usually usually an an an increase increase increase in in in violent violent violent crime crime crime the the the president president president has has has been been been under under under pressure pressure pressure from from from Republicans Republicans Republicans and and and others others others to to to bring bring bring down down down violent violent violent crime crime crime across across across the the the country country country my my my camp camp camp in in in Washington Washington Washington

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John O'Neill: Putin Has an Assassination Group

Mark Levin

01:35 min | Last week

John O'Neill: Putin Has an Assassination Group

"John you were saying Putin has an assassination group correct He does And the way they were caught they used a poison in England on a group called the scruples and idiotically these guys showed up on videotape I mean on a you know on a video And so they have Facebook entry smart And they actually call them on Facebook They track them back then to 14 different murders in the United Kingdom alone And they've been murdering people all over Russia and in other places In the last 7 weeks 6 different oligos have olive gardens that were over a half billion piece have all supposedly committed suicide Usually killing their families Oh so wait a minute He's knocking off oligarchs as we speak You're saying There was a family that Proto sanyas in Spain they found him home They found his child and his wife both chopped to death with an axe Everybody says that he loved his wife and child He called his daughter princess That was done to give a message all the other people in Russia while being deniable to give a message that if you oppose me I will not only kill you I will kill your little children And so you're dealing with a monster and Putin A cold blooded heartless killer just exactly like

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#37  Holy Week, part 2 - burst 2

Jesus Stories

00:57 sec | 2 weeks ago

#37 Holy Week, part 2 - burst 2

"So Jesus continues. In the fair cycle tradition of being picky about the law, they were also picky about their ties to the temple. These religious leaders were careful to tie even the smallest of their herb garden harvests, but they ignored the board important parts of the law, justice, mercy, faith, all of these are important, but you strain your water so you don't drink a gnat, but you swallow a camel. Now that's the saying, maybe you've heard before. Let me see if I can explain it to you. Part of its literal, and part of it is figurative. Both Nats and camels are forbidden food to the Jewish people. And yes, the religious leaders would strain their water to keep from accidentally swallowing an at, Jesus says yes, you would do this, but it being so picky or ignoring the more important things thus you swallow a camel. Jesus

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Like Eve We Are Seduced by Instant Gratification

Truth For Life Daily Program

00:54 sec | 2 weeks ago

Like Eve We Are Seduced by Instant Gratification

"So like eve in the garden, we, too, are susceptible to the notion that God if he exists is bent on spoiling our fun. I swear young people are told. Well, you don't want to get involved in that kind of religious stuff. He certainly don't want to get entertained. The notion of Jesus or becoming a Christian, those people are dead beats. That's the most miserable life you could ever know. Come and join us. And like eve, most of us are attracted to the notion of immediate gratification. Get it all now. Do you remember the credit card? I can't remember which company it was, but they had a wonderful buy line. It was taken a waiting out of wanting. Take no waiting, I would have wanted. Does that appeal? Of course it does. Oh, I like to have that purse. We'll take the waiting. I would have wanted. We can do that for you. Put the thing in, bring the thing out, and walk out with it. It's as easy as that.

New Jersey to start recreational marijuana sales April 21

AP News Radio

00:51 sec | Last month

New Jersey to start recreational marijuana sales April 21

"New New New New Jersey Jersey Jersey Jersey is is is is about about about about to to to to become become become become the the the the latest latest latest latest state state state state where where where where marijuana marijuana marijuana marijuana becomes becomes becomes becomes legal legal legal legal for for for for recreational recreational recreational recreational use use use use in in in in less less less less than than than than a a a a week week week week it it it it will will will will be be be be legal legal legal legal for for for for adults adults adults adults over over over over twenty twenty twenty twenty one one one one to to to to buy buy buy buy and and and and use use use use pot pot pot pot in in in in the the the the garden garden garden garden state state state state New New New New Jersey Jersey Jersey Jersey governor governor governor governor Phil Phil Phil Phil Murphy Murphy Murphy Murphy says says says says it's it's it's it's a a a a historic historic historic historic step step step step in in in in creating creating creating creating a a a a new new new new industry industry industry industry revolving revolving revolving revolving around around around around cannabis cannabis cannabis cannabis state state state state regulators regulators regulators regulators are are are are allowing allowing allowing allowing seven seven seven seven medical medical medical medical marijuana marijuana marijuana marijuana facilities facilities facilities facilities to to to to begin begin begin begin retail retail retail retail sales sales sales sales for for for for recreational recreational recreational recreational use use use use the the the the legislature legislature legislature legislature predicts predicts predicts predicts it it it it will will will will bring bring bring bring nineteen nineteen nineteen nineteen million million million million dollars dollars dollars dollars in in in in tax tax tax tax revenues revenues revenues revenues to to to to the the the the state state state state although although although although the the the the governor's governor's governor's governor's estimate estimate estimate estimate was was was was three three three three times times times times higher higher higher higher the the the the day day day day after after after after the the the the unofficial unofficial unofficial unofficial marijuana marijuana marijuana marijuana holiday holiday holiday holiday for for for for twenty twenty twenty twenty New New New New Jersey Jersey Jersey Jersey will will will will become become become become the the the the eighteenth eighteenth eighteenth eighteenth state state state state along along along along with with with with the the the the district district district district of of of of Columbia Columbia Columbia Columbia to to to to legalize legalize legalize legalize pot pot pot pot hi hi hi hi Jackie Jackie Jackie Jackie Quinn Quinn Quinn Quinn

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Month-Long Coverage From Ukraine by New York Times

Mark Levin

01:33 min | Last month

Month-Long Coverage From Ukraine by New York Times

"I rarely do this but I'm going to Shockingly The New York Times sent a reporter to bucha Ukraine In the stories about a month of terror I want you to hear some of this Because most of us don't subscribe to the New York slimes A mother killed by a sniper While walking with her family to fetch a thermos of tea A woman held as a sex slave naked except for a fur coat and locked in a potato cellar before being executed Two sisters dead in their home their bodies left slumped on the floor for weeks But Ukraine is a landscape of heart From the first day of the war of February 24 civilians bore the brunt of the Russian assault on butcher A few miles west of Kyiv it's a small suburb Russian special forces approaching on foot through the Woods shot at cars on the road And a column of armored vehicles fired on and killed a woman in her garden as they drove into the suburb But those early cruelties paled in comparison to what would come later As the Russian advance on Kyiv stalled in the face of fierce resistance civilians said the enemy occupation of bucha slid into a campaign of terror And revenge

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FOX News: New Jersey to Teach 2nd Graders Gender Identity

Mark Levin

01:31 min | Last month

FOX News: New Jersey to Teach 2nd Graders Gender Identity

"Because over the weekend I read an article where specifically in New Jersey students are going to be learning about gender identity this fall Now I covered it when it was introduced to the legislature about two years ago but it's kind of one of those things that they're like hey they're suggesting this thing and if when but how but now it's happening Here it comes You know and I saw a piece in a blog called save Jersey and the Fox News website headline New Jersey to require second graders to learn about gender identity this fall and this is alarming parents And I'm not going to read the whole thing but second graders first graders in New Jersey are going to be getting lesson plans related to gender identity this fall and sex education because that's the new guideline and it starts this September Now these standards they're called performance expectations and they're for second graders they'll be introduced in first grade but they're going to check performance expectations quote unquote discussing quote the range of ways that people express their gender and how gender role stereotypes may limit behavior Here's one more quote Educators in the garden state are preparing to carry out their teaching standards which were established in 2020 but not required to be enacted until September of 2022 One school district in the state distributed sample lesson plans indicating that first graders could be taught that they can have voice boy parts quote unquote but feel like a girl

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Biden aims at 'ghost gun' violence with new federal rule

AP News Radio

00:53 sec | Last month

Biden aims at 'ghost gun' violence with new federal rule

"President president president president Biden Biden Biden Biden is is is is making making making making another another another another bid bid bid bid to to to to fight fight fight fight through through through through Washington Washington Washington Washington gridlock gridlock gridlock gridlock and and and and take take take take on on on on gun gun gun gun violence violence violence violence mark mark mark mark in in in the the the rose rose rose garden garden garden the the the president president president held held held up up up a a a ghost ghost ghost gun gun gun kit kit kit that that that allows allows allows buyers buyers buyers to to to build build build a a a firearm firearm firearm without without without a a a serial serial serial number number number he he he says says says law law law enforcement's enforcement's enforcement's been been been sounding sounding sounding the the the alarm alarm alarm is is is the the the weapons weapons weapons increasingly increasingly increasingly show show show up up up in in in violent violent violent crimes crimes crimes our our our communities communities communities are are are paying paying paying the the the price price price the the the president president president says says says the the the justice justice justice department department department will will will now now now require require require manufacturers manufacturers manufacturers to to to put put put serial serial serial numbers numbers numbers on on on pieces pieces pieces and and and a a a licensed licensed licensed dealers dealers dealers to to to conduct conduct conduct background background background checks checks checks on on on anyone anyone anyone buying buying buying them them them the the the democratic democratic democratic base base base has has has been been been pushing pushing pushing the the the president president president to to to take take take more more more action action action to to to stem stem stem gun gun gun violence violence violence and and and he's he's he's been been been urging urging urging Congress Congress Congress to to to overhaul overhaul overhaul firearms firearms firearms laws laws laws but but but lawmakers lawmakers lawmakers are are are deadlocked deadlocked deadlocked and and and even even even the the the president's president's president's executive executive executive actions actions actions on on on guns guns guns have have have faced faced faced stiff stiff stiff legal legal legal challenges challenges challenges Sager Sager Sager mag mag mag ani ani ani Washington Washington Washington

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Barzal, Varlamov help Islanders beat rival Rangers 3-0

AP News Radio

00:29 sec | Last month

Barzal, Varlamov help Islanders beat rival Rangers 3-0

"The the underscore underscore early early in in each each period period and and continue continue their their recent recent strong strong play play with with a a three three to to nothing nothing win win over over the the Rangers Rangers Matthew Matthew bars bars L. L. had had a a goal goal and and an an assist assist and and Simeon Simeon Valaam Valaam off off stopped stopped twenty twenty seven seven shots shots here here shut shut out out the the Rangers Rangers for for three three times times at at Madison Madison Square Square Garden Garden the the house house of of one one three three straight straight and and seven seven of of their their last last ten ten Casey Casey Cizikas Cizikas and and Matt Matt Martin Martin also also scored scored for for the the aisles aisles the the Rangers Rangers with with ninety ninety three three points points are are jockeying jockeying for for playoff playoff position position in in the the Eastern Eastern Conference Conference they they had had their their four four game game winning winning streak streak snapped snapped they they have have won won eight eight of of their their last last eleven eleven might might make make you you so so New New York York

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'The World Made by Hand' Series With James Kunstler

The Eric Metaxas Show

02:31 min | 2 months ago

'The World Made by Hand' Series With James Kunstler

"I'm talking to James Howard kunstler, who is a complicated cat man. Jim, you really are. You're eclectic and wide ranging. And so I'm thinking of this interview just as an introductory to introduce my audience to you because you've written a lot of really spectacular fiction, we were just talking about the geography of nowhere and those three books, which are genuinely important in thinking about the world. In which we live, but so getting back to fiction, you wrote four novels that are part of the world made by hand series you call it talk about that. What are these novels? Well, after I wrote the long emergency, which was about the possibility of our techno industrial society actually collapsing. I wanted to write a series of novels that would give people a tactile and direct sense of what the experience would be like to live in the post economic collapse world. So I set these novels in this small town and upstate New York. Where the townspeople are terribly depressed and demoralized by the failures of modernity. And into this small town comes a band of evangelicals. Who are fleeing the disorders of dixieland and coming further north and they buy the decommissioned high school and they establish their new Jerusalem in it and around it. You know, they turn the ball fields into gardens and so on. And so a great deal of the book of all four of the novels is concerned with the interplay between the evangelicals and the demoralized townspeople who have been let down by modernity. And it turns out the evangelicals and they began the book rather darkly because their leader, a fellow named brother job, seemed to be a kind of dark character, but he became more heroic as the series went on. And, you know, I think you end up feeling a lot of admiration for what had become the re enchantment of daily life, a spiritual re enchantment of daily life in a way that most Americans living today could never probably imagine right now.

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Nice try but no potato for New Zealand couple's giant find

AP News Radio

00:52 sec | 2 months ago

Nice try but no potato for New Zealand couple's giant find

"A big potato in New Zealand turned out not to be a potato Colin Craig brown was gardening last summer with his wife in New Zealand I got the full king Javed intellect and put it in the ground and Holly seven total place what's going on and what he found was big they named it dog for the way they unearthed it what is it weighed seventeen pounds equal to a couple of sacks of regular potatoes or one small dog it's a potato and she went no higher after months of submitting photos and paperwork the couple got the bad news from the Guinness book of world records Doug isn't a potato but it to burn up a gourd Doug became something of a local celebrity in New Zealand after the couple began posting photos of it on Facebook with a hat on it and even built a cart to tote around Greg brown says he's disappointed but stated Doug is the destroyer from down under he's the world's biggest not a potato I'm a Donahue

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Brant Hansen on Manly Men and His New Book 'The Men We Need'

The Eric Metaxas Show

02:37 min | 2 months ago

Brant Hansen on Manly Men and His New Book 'The Men We Need'

"American taxes, and I get to talk to fascinating people. I have next to me here. I'm still at the NRB in Nashville, and I'm sitting here with the author of a book called the men we need God's purpose for the manly man, the avid endorsement or endorsement or any man willing to show up. The author is Brandt, Hanson, Brandt, welcome to the program. Thanks, man. I find the term the avid endorsement very funny. Very funny. So tell my audience before I tell them, tell me what is this book about? Well, I'm all for deconstructing masculinity to a point. Yeah. A lot of it's valid. Because there's a lot of stuff, as you know, it's just like, that's not masculinity. That's posing or something. But like when I was flexing or it was in tatters, we all remember that. That was real, dude. That was. And that was legit. And I'm not taking away from that. Listen, I will. I work for this body. I'm proud of it. Hide it under a bushel. But okay, seriously, the book is called the men we need, and it's about, it's about manhood. I'm taking a shot at constructing something rather than just deconstructing. Because guys do not know. And you know this, especially younger guys. What is it? We know we're not supposed to do. We know what's toxic. Got it. Don't want it to be that. Okay, so what's is there any distinction at all? And what is it? And what I'm trying to say, it is, is what the job that God gave Adam is keeper of the garden. Right. That's it. And that means being a gardener being somebody, you're not only protect the garden, you don't want to create a space where people are secure around you, but you cultivate, you help people flourish around you. Literally. No, not literally as a metaphor. So I don't have to become a gardener to be a real man. No, no. But if I am a gardener, I could be a real man. You or it could be a wuss, gardening has nothing to do with it. Well, you know what? Okay, you make actually slid into an awesome point there. It happens. It happens. That's why I just keep talking. But the trappings of masculinity, we could be ripped. Like we could be outdoors. I'm not an outdoorsman. I don't hunt. I drive a ripped, but it's not like I talk about it all the time. Okay. You know what I'm saying? And I appreciate the humility. Yeah, exactly. But there's something about, even if you don't, even if you're not great looking or you're strong or whatever, blah, blah, blah. If you're somebody who creates security in your home or you make people feel safe around you, women find it really

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No. 8 Villanova topples No. 20 UConn to make Big East final

AP News Radio

00:29 sec | 2 months ago

No. 8 Villanova topples No. 20 UConn to make Big East final

"It will be number eight Villanova and Creighton playing in the big east final as both advance in semi final victories at Madison Square Garden great and open up the night opening at number eleven Providence eighty five to fifty eight as the blue jays were led by senior guard Alex o'connell with eighteen points Villanova and UConn sixty three sixty of the master of two classically teams as Wildcats Tramaine Simmons had a game high twenty one noble look for the six league tourney title in school history well great advance to the big east tourney final for the fourth time since joining the conference Mike Moriarty New York

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Adebayo scores 30 points, Heat pull away to beat Cavs

AP News Radio

00:44 sec | 2 months ago

Adebayo scores 30 points, Heat pull away to beat Cavs

"Bam Adebayo delivered thirty points and seventeen rebounds as the heat handed the Cavaliers their seventh loss in ten games one seventeen one oh five teammate Jimmy Butler says Adebayor was his defensive player of the year if you look at what he does for our team on defense he's everywhere on the floor he distills his garden Garces Garm Biggs Amigas box sometimes they give into my box but you know wanting to talk about that but I just think he does so many things well on defense Butler added twenty four points and a pair of big third quarter runs help Miami improved to sixteen and seven after losses the win leaves the heated top the NBA's Eastern Conference by two and a half games over the box Darius garland had twenty four points and ten assists for Cleveland I'm Dave Ferrie

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EU advises further relaxing travel rules for foreigners

AP News Radio

00:44 sec | 3 months ago

EU advises further relaxing travel rules for foreigners

"European Union member countries have agreed they should further ease tourists travel into the twenty seven nation bloc the people who've been vaccinated against the corona virus or who recovered from Kevin nineteen the European Council recommends that even nations next month lift all testing and quarantine requirements the people who receive vaccines authorized in the E. U. or approved by the W. H. O. as well as helping people from within the E. U. move about it will further facilitate travel from outside the U. into the block the E. U.'s executive commission has welcomed the gardens which also makes clear the no tests or additional requirements should be applied to children under six traveling with an adult I'm Charles that's my

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Scientists cautious as England set to end COVID curbs

AP News Radio

00:55 sec | 3 months ago

Scientists cautious as England set to end COVID curbs

"Scientists are warning the British government not to weaken the country's ability to monitor and track the coronavirus off to prime minister Boris Johnson plans to end the requirement the people in England to self isolate Johnson's living with coded plan treats the virus like other transmissible illnesses such as flu the legal requirement to self isolate for at least five days off to a positive test is expected to be replaced by simple gardens and must testing for the virus will be scaled back however some scientists say it's a risky move that could bring a surge in infections and weaken the country's defenses Andrew Pollack director of the Oxford vaccine group says it's essential to maintain surveillance for the virus an early warning system if you like which tells us about new variants emerging Charles river that's my London

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Guns to garden tools: Colorado group seeks change, healing

AP News Radio

00:50 sec | 3 months ago

Guns to garden tools: Colorado group seeks change, healing

"A nonprofit group that converge guns into garden tools is celebrating its re purposing of more than a thousand weapons they're based in Colorado springs and raw tools gets its inspiration from a Bible verse they shall beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks it began after the twenty thirteen massacre at an elementary school in sandy hook Connecticut where twenty first graders and six adults were shot to death by a gunman since then the group has held gun buyback events and melted down disabled fire arms turning them into garden tools like claws and trolls one raw tools members are let the Evans says it helps her cope with the shooting death of her three year old son decades ago in Denver hi Jackie Quinn

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"gardens" Discussed on Plantrama

Plantrama

04:52 min | 1 year ago

"gardens" Discussed on Plantrama

"And I know that <hes> not for reasons that you wanted to. . But for other reasons at your house, , you are redoing your. . Some your perennial plantings this fall. Are . You Yes, , we are under construction for reasons not of my. . Choosing. . Seal in the past couple of days, , I have turned a corner on this and I am now looking at it as an opportunity to redesign the garden at the front of my house. . So right now, , it looks pretty much like a war zone. . There's everything has come up the trees, , shrubs perennials, , and I'm kind of getting excited about pow I'm going to replant so. . That's my silverline I'm glad you mentioned that because this is a good time of year to Redo Perennial Garden. . What we want to talk about in our main segment is not only redoing a perennial garden but also kind of standard fall perennial maintenance what you should be doing <hes> various methods because as always in the garden, there's , never only one right way <hes>. . Yeah but. . I often think that. . One of the downsides of a perennial garden is that you get it planted and sometimes it seems like well, a , lot of work to be honest to Redo it right. . So you know I'm I'm looking out at one of my perennial bid, , the job pie we has really taken over a big part of the garden. . I Love Joe Pye now I love the plan it's very Pretty bad. . It's really getting to the point that I should go in there and remove half of it. . That's going to take a half of a day with a shovel and digging and lifting and all of that, , and it's very tempting to do it. . But fall is a great time to do it if I go in now and take half of my Joe Pye. . Weed out. . Then, , next spring, , I'm going to have that area that is ready to plant with something else, , and one of the reasons that now is a good time to do exactly. . That kind of thing is because now you can see that giant swath of Joe Pye in your garden, , and you cannot deny the fact that it's taking up more space than you. . Originally intended and really you need to move some of it in the spring you can kind of fool yourself because it's not big it's not in flower you can't see its full size, , but there's no denying in fall when you look out over your garden, , what has grown beyond its bound I'm grinning because it's like Ellen was in my head this spring. . because. . I was out there looking at the U. Petroleum which is the Joe Pye weed and I was thinking Oh, , it's not so bad. . You can't do that now. . It is so bad. . So this is a good time to either remove some perennial plants that have gotten out of hand or it who moved perennial plants that perhaps you put in the wrong spot you know that maybe this plant isn't as tall as you thought, , it was going to be and so it's hidden behind something else like all of you Pretoria. . Or maybe the plant actually got bigger than you thought it was going to be and it's hiding other things and you really need to move it to another location. . Or here's another reason to get in there and do some editing. . Maybe that plant is just a little bit too much of a thug and you're thinking, , why did I plant that gooseneck loose strife in the first place? ? This is a good time to pare down remove or transplant, , and if you're going to transplant, , there are a couple of things you need to do for a successful transplant and the first thing I would say to do is cut back most of that top growth you do not want to be digging up a six foot tall stem, , of Joe, , Pye weed leave a couple of leaves on it, , but you want to cut it back to a foot or maybe eighteen inches and it's Going to be much more manageable for you to dig up that Rupaul in addition to <hes> editing out and if somebody is redoing their garden as as you are, , it is a good time to think first of all, , do I want to rearrange things? ? Do I want to redesign? ? Do I really want to put any of this plant back if? ? I'm? ? Going to find no, , I'm going to have to pair that you Pretoria I'm back again in another five years should is included or should I plant it someplace else entirely so I would encourage people to make those assessments and see if they want to do maybe a little more than just the absolute necessity in terms of editing and redoing

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"gardens" Discussed on Oregon Rooted: The Dirt Show

Oregon Rooted: The Dirt Show

02:08 min | 2 years ago

"gardens" Discussed on Oregon Rooted: The Dirt Show

"Already seen as our soil drying up much faster and we've seen like definitely some more rapid plant growth through using this and it's just a funding to play with 'cause like traditionally it's used as a stage of heat in the greenhouse just as our agom or heaters are used as a first stage or second stage of heat depending on how cold it is so a lot of people in. Canada. These big greenhouses use like radiant heat as their first stage because the heat's rising in there usually under benches so it's keeping just that whole realm super warm helping drive the soil out as well but we're using it to specifically target are rhizosphere in our biologic life in control that so that we know that it's healthy as possible and drying up in the time when we we think is is just and also hopefully one day the goal would be to you know have so much data on our genetics and how different bacteria you know helps. Produce different levels of turbines in different types of bacteria in different types of Fungal is dr in different temperatures so maybe some day will be running like eighty five degrees on this sativa dominant will be running like a consistent seventy on this other at their genetic. I shouldn't even say sativa into Kenny. More that one that we see that like lemonade or mercy and or something gets produced at a much higher level at the soil you know temp stays consistently higher the whole time so that bacteria can help you make. That happens long. It's really it's really interesting. You say that because I think there's a lot of evidence that bacteria play huge role in the Turpin production and we've also there's two fold thing here one is it. Seems like you're getting control of some issues that I think are going to be big problems for farms and producers in the future because I think those are going to be cropping up. Here's more and more so whether it's but try to answer the fusarium or or or anything crossing over into the ham especially moldy fields. I mean I don't know we're getting grounds. We've been fortunate enough to.

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"gardens" Discussed on Oregon Rooted: The Dirt Show

Oregon Rooted: The Dirt Show

01:45 min | 2 years ago

"gardens" Discussed on Oregon Rooted: The Dirt Show

"Go too far into that you want explain what that is. Yeah so I mean it's it's we call it ironic heating. You can call it bed. He you can call it Floor he you know radiant heat. It's basically hot water. That is hot water. Loukas going running through our soil and this is the but I I just missed on. Is that one of the biggest. We're trying to prove this model with the whole raised beds in a greenhouse and being able to like produce hope You know in hopes of a higher quality product in the long run but one of the big issues we deal with and we seen a lot of people move from beds deposits because this is the the volume of soil in the greenhouse and we actually just replaced our soil and put in half the volume as we did last time. Because that's one of the major Issues is the evapotranspiration when the soil and the plant so the more soil volume you have been more humidity. You're going to have as well and obviously funeral. Pots usually going to have more plants to soil ratio. You're still dealing with a lot of transportation but This is in three one of the big reasons we installed the hydraulic heat was helped dry out. So this is. This is heat that we can control the temperatures running through the lowest point of our soil. So where it separates from soil to our granite floor So in hopes that that that cold you know moisture isn't coming up from the granite and keeping the bottom of our rhizosphere cold because we know or at least you know the research shows that the rhizosphere is going to be the most active in the biology is going to be the healthiest between seventy and seventy five degrees. So how can we control that year round? So we put a A measurement instrument in and then installed these hydraulic lines and also to help Push moisture.

"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

This American Life

03:11 min | 2 years ago

"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

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"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

This American Life

03:11 min | 2 years ago

"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

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"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

This American Life

04:00 min | 2 years ago

"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

"Chavez is one of the producers of our show four. If I lived here I'd be home now. So story today is about somebody who tries to visit a parallel world when the Shamas lived in herself. Diane who explains the universe. Emily ended up in was like a postcard. For old-timey America ten acres in Vermont was five big brothers and sisters eating candy out of Glass Jars at the family general store. Yeah we just lived in this big house and my parents were really strict like they always reminded me of the von Trapp family. Even though that's like really extreme a lot of rules I rose very much do as I say she almost lived. Totally different life was adopted from South Korea when she was a baby. She's forty now and as a kid. She rarely thought about the world. She came from when her life would have been like there was the eighties. That kind of thing wasn't especially encouraged. Her family raised her not to ask many questions about her past but there was one thing she really wanted to know about about it. I mean mostly growing up. I just really wondered what my birth mother looked like That was usually the question that always came to my mind appearance to Laker. They were white as was most everybody else in town so hard for her to picture her birth mother's face. There was no one to ask a couple of decades later. Emily became a mother herself and suddenly felt connected to curious about her birth mother again. She started started researching how to contact her and two long years later finally got in touch then. She decided to go on a trip to South Korea to meet her birth mother. A trip trip that would allow her to tunnel between the universe that was into the universe that might have been she recorded parts of it for a podcast called motherhood sessions all of Emily's as emotions about the trip hitter on the way to the airport in New York when suddenly she found herself sobbing while talking to the cabdriver depending on meeting the meeting my birth mother for the first time. This is executive flew aboard Uber. A birth Monday. I searched for her her through the adoption agency. It took two years. Two years of searching. Looks Good and what about your dad. Okay Don voted. Anything should be better. Everything is the vetted blessing for you. You you you're going to meet your mother. I know I know you're feeling because you spend spend your whole life the dog to a mom I know you spend your whole life. Your Dr Your Mom. You need your mom on when you on the trailer like you'll you'll babies you know going on the plane to for me. It was this kind of thinking about the less took that flight was when I was a baby and touching down it. I remember thinking that last last time I was here. One night was five months old. She had a data settle in before she met her birth mother. It was the first time she'd ever been to Asia and wandering around Seoul. It was so easy to imagine the other versions of her life. All around her I go in stores or restaurants in you know I think Oh. Could I be be that woman behind the counter. Working there When I'd see a mom with her little girl I oh well? Is that what it would have been lake to walk down the street holding my my mom's hand.

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"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

This American Life

07:41 min | 2 years ago

"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

"Turns out there was one way to figure it out sometime around. The age of forty randy can't remember. Exactly what the topic of their potentially swapped identities came up and they were like. Why don't we figured the Saudia they're grown adults? They should know who they actually were and also they were working as Comedians at that point and they thought it might be good material which Mossy. We'll see thought maybe the hospital where they were born would have a copy of their fingerprints. They could get those compare them to their adult fingerprints. He wasn't wrong about the science part of that. Dental twins have nearly the same DNA. So they're fingerprint patterns or very similar closer than anyone else's as you probably know fingerprints are made up of lines and some of those lines have tiny variations in them like forks or loops and those markings are different between identical twins. For those of you still listening the reason for that. Is that the markings developed based on the conditions in the womb like pressure which is different depending on where the baby is in the womb. So Randi called the hospital where they were born to see if they still had a copy of their fingerprints. The hospital told them that they throw birth records out after thirty years. They were old Out of luck until I was back home last summer with my family. This is randy and I was digging through just looking at stuff in Saint Louis in Saint Louis. I was back in our childhood home that we lived in since we were four years old and I found from the hospital are footprints. I they were in. It's a book is at. I have the next year bags and my bed. There was like a nightstand thing. That was like a chest that you could open up and it was just in the bottom of that. I couldn't believe it and I'd Never Christina there before and I thought okay this is we could find out it became more real real in. The possibility was rekindled if they could find someone to compare their adult footprints to their baby footprints. Maybe they could put this mystery to bed. Once and for all his luck would have it. There was just such a person in Buena Park California About Twenty five miles from Los Angeles. Where Jason and Randy outlive a forensic identification specialist by the name of Kurt? Kuehne but Kurt said there was no way he could use a baby footprint from a hospital. Those aren't made for identification purposes. They're made because baby feeder freaking cute. They're mementos says and they usually don't have much detail in June. Jason sent Kurt the footprints anyway just to check. And when Kurt solemn he confirmed that they were mostly just unusable Azel smudges of ink but miraculously there was a half inch spot on the fall of the left Jason Foot. That had nice clear lines. He shouldn't have have any problem making the identification he just needed Jason then Randy's adult feet faced with the imminent revelation of their true identities. Jason and Randy were forced to think through what they would actually do if they'd been switched as babies he's which let's be. Honest is not a long list of considerations. Do you think you'd swap names legally changed. Our names are if if you are swapped than your kind of like committing fraud all the time right now I guess Yeah intially Unintentional Fr- yeah. You're well I'm I would be using his social security number right right you know. How does that affect everything we do? I wonder if it does. I mean maybe it only matters if like one of you commits murder barefoot and then runs through wet Samat or something maybe practically. It doesn't actually matter without you. Can't do thanks a lot. Maybe it doesn't matter. I'm probably right about that. Except there's one person who Jason was legitimately worried about their mom and that who they're very close with their father died in two thousand nine and and that's had two strokes in recent years. They're protective of her. What does she got it wrong? All those years ago I would feel bad for her mom. Yeah say more sorry about that. I would feel like maybe she would be embarrassed. Or maybe she would feel like she should have spoken up and may be found out away in that moment to get our footprints and just to spell it and figure it out and however was not concerned I just I have a feeling. That's all my feeling my definite feeling that I know who's who I know you are. I'm the mother I know what if it is. It's different different. You want me to change my name. What if I became Jason and Jason became me then you have to have different girlfriends? The wives and a a few days before Thanksgiving I flew to La and met Randy. Jason and Annette at Randy's house were spending the holiday. We left her at home with their grandchildren and headed down the five live towards Buena Park and hopefully resolutions Randy said. He was feeling remarkably zen. But Jason I feel more or nervous today than than ever before about this like I think when we got into this I was like Oh this is going to be so interesting and fascinating but I really want my mom to be right like I want to be me. I don't know I just woke up this morning saying God. I hope my mom was right. We turned turned off. The highway drove through the gates of Kurt subdivision and pulled up to a house with a winnebago out front. The Winnipeg garage door was halfway down and behind it. We could see a pair of white legs that ended in a sock fan and flip flops. Kurt the garage door lifted to reveal. Kurt looks up a tall man with full moustache and the voice like a cartoon bear. When you're not coming into the garage? Get on the front porch. Let me get rid of the trash and take off. We stepped into Kurt's living room met his wife and granddaughter. Jason Jason. We made an impressive amount of small. Talk about Thanksgiving Winnebago's hunting will have you ever bitten into birdshot while eating Kurzban five and a half years working as a forensic identification specialist for the Beverly Hills in Los Angeles police departments. He shows US Jason and randy baby footprints. He'd had them locked in his safe for five months to those. Oh they're so cute. It's time to take their adult footprints. She get rid of a left shoe. When SOCK RANDY GOES I? He puts his naked foot up on. Kurt's knee these critiques. A special inkpad and press it against his foot. Then he repeats the process with Jason Jason. And that's it. Send them out the door to walk around the neighborhood. Kirk figures out. WHO's actually Jason? WHO's actually randy? We go upstairs to his office where he scans a footprints and pull them up on his computer screen. He enlarges the baby one onscreen because his teeny and stares at the lines comparing it to the adult footprint sprint after just twenty minutes. He's done a tech season and tell them to come back to the house. Welcome back thank you. Kurt assist back down on the couch and proceed with the Line of questioning. I had not anticipated okay. My first question is how many other babies were in the doctor's office shit. I have no idea Kurt. WHO's one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet by the way is screwing with okay? Let's hear it. Don't keep us in suspense. Yeah so he told them. Wow Oh my oh my God scared rebels tripping thank you soon okay..

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"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

This American Life

07:41 min | 2 years ago

"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

"Turns out there was one way to figure it out sometime around. The age of forty randy can't remember. Exactly what the topic of their potentially swapped identities came up and they were like. Why don't we figured the Saudia they're grown adults? They should know who they actually were and also they were working as Comedians at that point and they thought it might be good material which Mossy. We'll see thought maybe the hospital where they were born would have a copy of their fingerprints. They could get those compare them to their adult fingerprints. He wasn't wrong about the science part of that. Dental twins have nearly the same DNA. So they're fingerprint patterns or very similar closer than anyone else's as you probably know fingerprints are made up of lines and some of those lines have tiny variations in them like forks or loops and those markings are different between identical twins. For those of you still listening the reason for that. Is that the markings developed based on the conditions in the womb like pressure which is different depending on where the baby is in the womb. So Randi called the hospital where they were born to see if they still had a copy of their fingerprints. The hospital told them that they throw birth records out after thirty years. They were old Out of luck until I was back home last summer with my family. This is randy and I was digging through just looking at stuff in Saint Louis in Saint Louis. I was back in our childhood home that we lived in since we were four years old and I found from the hospital are footprints. I they were in. It's a book is at. I have the next year bags and my bed. There was like a nightstand thing. That was like a chest that you could open up and it was just in the bottom of that. I couldn't believe it and I'd Never Christina there before and I thought okay this is we could find out it became more real real in. The possibility was rekindled if they could find someone to compare their adult footprints to their baby footprints. Maybe they could put this mystery to bed. Once and for all his luck would have it. There was just such a person in Buena Park California About Twenty five miles from Los Angeles. Where Jason and Randy outlive a forensic identification specialist by the name of Kurt? Kuehne but Kurt said there was no way he could use a baby footprint from a hospital. Those aren't made for identification purposes. They're made because baby feeder freaking cute. They're mementos says and they usually don't have much detail in June. Jason sent Kurt the footprints anyway just to check. And when Kurt solemn he confirmed that they were mostly just unusable Azel smudges of ink but miraculously there was a half inch spot on the fall of the left Jason Foot. That had nice clear lines. He shouldn't have have any problem making the identification he just needed Jason then Randy's adult feet faced with the imminent revelation of their true identities. Jason and Randy were forced to think through what they would actually do if they'd been switched as babies he's which let's be. Honest is not a long list of considerations. Do you think you'd swap names legally changed. Our names are if if you are swapped than your kind of like committing fraud all the time right now I guess Yeah intially Unintentional Fr- yeah. You're well I'm I would be using his social security number right right you know. How does that affect everything we do? I wonder if it does. I mean maybe it only matters if like one of you commits murder barefoot and then runs through wet Samat or something maybe practically. It doesn't actually matter without you. Can't do thanks a lot. Maybe it doesn't matter. I'm probably right about that. Except there's one person who Jason was legitimately worried about their mom and that who they're very close with their father died in two thousand nine and and that's had two strokes in recent years. They're protective of her. What does she got it wrong? All those years ago I would feel bad for her mom. Yeah say more sorry about that. I would feel like maybe she would be embarrassed. Or maybe she would feel like she should have spoken up and may be found out away in that moment to get our footprints and just to spell it and figure it out and however was not concerned I just I have a feeling. That's all my feeling my definite feeling that I know who's who I know you are. I'm the mother I know what if it is. It's different different. You want me to change my name. What if I became Jason and Jason became me then you have to have different girlfriends? The wives and a a few days before Thanksgiving I flew to La and met Randy. Jason and Annette at Randy's house were spending the holiday. We left her at home with their grandchildren and headed down the five live towards Buena Park and hopefully resolutions Randy said. He was feeling remarkably zen. But Jason I feel more or nervous today than than ever before about this like I think when we got into this I was like Oh this is going to be so interesting and fascinating but I really want my mom to be right like I want to be me. I don't know I just woke up this morning saying God. I hope my mom was right. We turned turned off. The highway drove through the gates of Kurt subdivision and pulled up to a house with a winnebago out front. The Winnipeg garage door was halfway down and behind it. We could see a pair of white legs that ended in a sock fan and flip flops. Kurt the garage door lifted to reveal. Kurt looks up a tall man with full moustache and the voice like a cartoon bear. When you're not coming into the garage? Get on the front porch. Let me get rid of the trash and take off. We stepped into Kurt's living room met his wife and granddaughter. Jason Jason. We made an impressive amount of small. Talk about Thanksgiving Winnebago's hunting will have you ever bitten into birdshot while eating Kurzban five and a half years working as a forensic identification specialist for the Beverly Hills in Los Angeles police departments. He shows US Jason and randy baby footprints. He'd had them locked in his safe for five months to those. Oh they're so cute. It's time to take their adult footprints. She get rid of a left shoe. When SOCK RANDY GOES I? He puts his naked foot up on. Kurt's knee these critiques. A special inkpad and press it against his foot. Then he repeats the process with Jason Jason. And that's it. Send them out the door to walk around the neighborhood. Kirk figures out. WHO's actually Jason? WHO's actually randy? We go upstairs to his office where he scans a footprints and pull them up on his computer screen. He enlarges the baby one onscreen because his teeny and stares at the lines comparing it to the adult footprint sprint after just twenty minutes. He's done a tech season and tell them to come back to the house. Welcome back thank you. Kurt assist back down on the couch and proceed with the Line of questioning. I had not anticipated okay. My first question is how many other babies were in the doctor's office shit. I have no idea Kurt. WHO's one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet by the way is screwing with okay? Let's hear it. Don't keep us in suspense. Yeah so he told them. Wow Oh my oh my God scared rebels tripping thank you soon okay..

Jason Jason Kurt Randy Jason Foot Los Angeles Buena Park California front porch Randi Buena Park Winnipeg fraud Winnebago Kuehne Saint Louis murder Samat Kirk
"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

This American Life

04:46 min | 2 years ago

"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

"And that was faced with the decision she had to choose. which baby was Jason in which one was randy? She had nothing to go on a maternal feeling so she chose does take agreed with her. I really always felt like I had the right person in my heart. I just said it is and I'm not going to think about it anymore. And this is my life we know who they are and that it is they are and we're not going to talk about it anymore. ATLANTA NOT SO convinced. Do you think she got it right. I mean I don't think she no. She says she did. How does she know? I mean there's no way that they were so they will so much like and so I'm not sure Jason and Randy or forty eight years old. Now they're comedians. They work together. They've done cameos on different TV shows. Curb your enthusiasm and better call Saul and they still still look exactly the same randy. Can you describe what decent looks like. He's a very good looking Jason he he is very Semitic looking. He's got glasses. He's about five foot eight and a half. That's generous somewhat athletic looking less generous. They found out about their potentially swapped identities when they were about twelve years old by accident. They're spending a summer weekend at the world famous lake of the ozarks in central Missouri with their mom and Aunt Linda and her two sons. The boys were playing well in net net. Linda talked amongst themselves themselves. The story of the calamitous doctor's visit came up and unbeknownst to them Jason and Randy weren't earshot and they overheard the whole thing we were just. We hated the story. This is Jason. He's remarkably like Randy we. We were livid that this could have happened and also that she was sharing it in sort sort of an off hand joking way and Linda Wallace. Who is a funny woman was making it funnier and they were laughing about? We're like we were just very embarrassed by it and upset set by a flag. Oh my God this is an insane thing to hear because we may not be who we are. What pissed you off about it? What was so upsetting about it? I I think that it just was. We were just sensitive. I think to being confused and again it was this narrative that kind of went through our lives as we wanted to be individuals. Israel's and we wanted to be seen as individuals and then here's this thing that happened where we could be so easily confused for identical twins. Two people who are constantly being mistaken for one another who try really hard to make it clear that they're unique individuals. This was a big deal. Randy was the most upset. He goes. Why can't you go to the to the policemen? I think Randy really wanted me to go there. You were talking all the way to the card not that an actual crime had been committed and just a crime against their dignity but for some reason randy figured the police were the ones who could sorted out but an did not go to the police and the name confusion did not get sorted it out. It remained a mystery. Jason Randy's lives the couple times food was brought up throughout their years. If somebody you said something about it they would go. I don't WanNa hear about it. Don't bring it up again. I know idea it was that that painful for them. I mean it wasn't. It was a joke between a net night but I'm not sure it was a joke between all of us because they were very sensitive about it just the simple fact of the matter that for countless times in our lives someone and has said to me Jason. And I'm like I'm randy right. You know like that that's happened so many times in my life. If that's not true there is go back to every single. But there's there's a notion that like you've been living a little bit of a lie. It's a tiny life but it's not your not your line. It's not your fault but still that is debts unsettling in a weird way to me. That's just weird that for all this time. I had had it wrong. If they were switched and they have to reimagined something that so foundational nobody ever thinks about it their birth. WHO's older who is in the incubator? Her like Randy says is weird. Doesn't really make a difference but also somehow it does and not knowing what the truth is. That's even more unnerving..

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"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

This American Life

06:58 min | 2 years ago

"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

"Cast now And some other university state physicist Terrell of his life in this one he is the executive editor of our programs. Bill Clinton by the way later wrote about this address to the nation that night night in his biography. He does not mention trump's draft with the speech but he does say the most of his advisors had countered into simply admit that he had made an awful mistake not to go out swinging did anyway of course weeks after that speech backtracked in front of a smaller audience prayer breakfast with religious leaders. He took a different tone on there. He said I agree with those who said that in my first statement after I testified I was not a contrite enough much closer to what trump and written included in an apology to Monica Lewinsky. Family coming up. Where did you living in a parallel universe where some very basic facts about your own life have been altered? That's minute Chicago Public Radio when our program continues support for this American life comes from capital one capital one has a fresh take on banking. Now you can open a new savings account in about five minutes and earn five times. The national average banking with capital capital. One means five times the savings toward your dream. Honeymoon bore five times the savings toward your family's ultimate vacation even five times the savings toward just feeling good about saving whichever it is. It's time to make your savings goals come true. This is banking reimagined. What's in your wallet? Capital one and a member. FDIC support for this. American life comes from free form with the new comedy. Everything's GonNa be okay. twenty-something Nicholas has never never been particularly helpful in raising his two teenage sisters but when their father becomes terminally ill Nicholas is the only one left to teach his younger sisters about life. I love and all the other things. He still hasn't learned himself. What could go wrong? Everything's GonNa be okay. Premiers on Thursday January sixteenth at eight thirty seven thirty thirty central on free form. Tis American Life Mira Glass. Today's program gardens a branching paths stories of parallel worlds. And when people get fixated on the way things could be in those other worlds in the first half of today show We had people imagining other better worlds in this is half we have people pondering the alternate worlds that are right here around us all the time in this world. We've arrived at at three of our show at three scar crossed. Brothers others so if you think about it being on identical twin is kind of a parallel world situation you have this other version of yourself stuck in the the world. Is You stuck in the same house as you see somebody who's just like you running around doing things that you might not do didn't has has this next story about a mother other her twins and forty eight year old mystery and that's Clark had a lot going on in the winter of seventy two in January. She delivered twin boys Jason. I followed by Randy five minutes later weighing five pounds two ounces randy to spend the first days of life in an incubator Phil lived in suburban. Saint Louis suit and that's husband. Dick had job at a paper company called tension envelope. He worked long hours and traveled a lot and that was often at home alone. Caring for two the infant's feeding them changing diapers and making sure she didn't lose track of which was which because they looked exactly alike. Were you always scared that you might mix them up like from the day they were born. was that a a real fear. I tried to be really careful about knowing who either had what outfit they Iran. I knew I was really careful about it so usually we had outfits output in different colors Blue Blue Jay and read randy red. And then I didn't think about it too much once. I knew it was okay. That's all we did it. That's a good system. I think I did feed them twice in one. It didn't feed the other one. He did that he did that. One of them was sitting there and was crying Alumna. Why is he crying so she even had a backup a creative redundancy she built into the safety plan for their identities and that was diaper pins she is blue? Diaper pins for Jason and yellow ones for for Randy. Everything went smoothly for a while and then at six weeks. They had their first checkup and dress them in the same outfit a fancy number their aunt Los Vangelis had sent them but underneath a close the diaper pin system was up and running at the doctor's office undertook the babies out of the room and at Carolina. Remember why maybe she need to tweak them and a few minutes later the nurse came back in with the boys then she goes. Oh we have such a great surprise for you. Now we have pampers. We're just using the first time armstead of using your diapers. We used your pampers and then they give me a little all four of their tins. The nurse had changed the babies out out of their cloth diapers and put them into disposable. Ones foiling the system entirely. She hinted a net bag with diaper pins in it. The boys were completely indistinguishable sociable. I was very upset. So they go. You're GONNA be fine. You're fine of course go. You're fine and we got in the car and I was so upset the way home when she she got home. A net. Put the baby's on the couch and stared at them at six weeks old. They didn't have distinct personalities yet. They weigh the same amount they had the same bald heads. No birthmarks marks. And I'm not kidding you. They looked exactly like and so I was thinking I was a really terrible mother. Than how can I really look at this and not see my own own children and not know which ones they are you know. She called me in a panic and She just said I. I'm I don't know what I'm GONNA do. I don't know which ones which I don't know what to do. This is the next best friend Linda. Wallace Atlanta is Jason and Randy. No her she lived in the same subdivision. Did you go over there to try to help her. Why couldn because she couldn't tell them apart? How would I be hip to tell them apart rights? I mean I didn't. I couldn't tell them apart. They she had the pens. Were you nervous to tell to Tell Dick renervous to tell you you were yes. I was really nervous so when he came home when he came the home and he saw them and they were in their crib and so finally I had to go. I have to tell you what happened. I told him and he goes really. He Goes Oh we'll figure it Out Let's see and then we were both lookie about them right next to each other. Of course they had the pampers on and nothing and he's going I don't know what do you think it is. I o'clock.

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"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

This American Life

06:58 min | 2 years ago

"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

"Cast now And some other university state physicist Terrell of his life in this one he is the executive editor of our programs. Bill Clinton by the way later wrote about this address to the nation that night night in his biography. He does not mention trump's draft with the speech but he does say the most of his advisors had countered into simply admit that he had made an awful mistake not to go out swinging did anyway of course weeks after that speech backtracked in front of a smaller audience prayer breakfast with religious leaders. He took a different tone on there. He said I agree with those who said that in my first statement after I testified I was not a contrite enough much closer to what trump and written included in an apology to Monica Lewinsky. Family coming up. Where did you living in a parallel universe where some very basic facts about your own life have been altered? That's minute Chicago Public Radio when our program continues support for this American life comes from capital one capital one has a fresh take on banking. Now you can open a new savings account in about five minutes and earn five times. The national average banking with capital capital. One means five times the savings toward your dream. Honeymoon bore five times the savings toward your family's ultimate vacation even five times the savings toward just feeling good about saving whichever it is. It's time to make your savings goals come true. This is banking reimagined. What's in your wallet? Capital one and a member. FDIC support for this. American life comes from free form with the new comedy. Everything's GonNa be okay. twenty-something Nicholas has never never been particularly helpful in raising his two teenage sisters but when their father becomes terminally ill Nicholas is the only one left to teach his younger sisters about life. I love and all the other things. He still hasn't learned himself. What could go wrong? Everything's GonNa be okay. Premiers on Thursday January sixteenth at eight thirty seven thirty thirty central on free form. Tis American Life Mira Glass. Today's program gardens a branching paths stories of parallel worlds. And when people get fixated on the way things could be in those other worlds in the first half of today show We had people imagining other better worlds in this is half we have people pondering the alternate worlds that are right here around us all the time in this world. We've arrived at at three of our show at three scar crossed. Brothers others so if you think about it being on identical twin is kind of a parallel world situation you have this other version of yourself stuck in the the world. Is You stuck in the same house as you see somebody who's just like you running around doing things that you might not do didn't has has this next story about a mother other her twins and forty eight year old mystery and that's Clark had a lot going on in the winter of seventy two in January. She delivered twin boys Jason. I followed by Randy five minutes later weighing five pounds two ounces randy to spend the first days of life in an incubator Phil lived in suburban. Saint Louis suit and that's husband. Dick had job at a paper company called tension envelope. He worked long hours and traveled a lot and that was often at home alone. Caring for two the infant's feeding them changing diapers and making sure she didn't lose track of which was which because they looked exactly alike. Were you always scared that you might mix them up like from the day they were born. was that a a real fear. I tried to be really careful about knowing who either had what outfit they Iran. I knew I was really careful about it so usually we had outfits output in different colors Blue Blue Jay and read randy red. And then I didn't think about it too much once. I knew it was okay. That's all we did it. That's a good system. I think I did feed them twice in one. It didn't feed the other one. He did that he did that. One of them was sitting there and was crying Alumna. Why is he crying so she even had a backup a creative redundancy she built into the safety plan for their identities and that was diaper pins she is blue? Diaper pins for Jason and yellow ones for for Randy. Everything went smoothly for a while and then at six weeks. They had their first checkup and dress them in the same outfit a fancy number their aunt Los Vangelis had sent them but underneath a close the diaper pin system was up and running at the doctor's office undertook the babies out of the room and at Carolina. Remember why maybe she need to tweak them and a few minutes later the nurse came back in with the boys then she goes. Oh we have such a great surprise for you. Now we have pampers. We're just using the first time armstead of using your diapers. We used your pampers and then they give me a little all four of their tins. The nurse had changed the babies out out of their cloth diapers and put them into disposable. Ones foiling the system entirely. She hinted a net bag with diaper pins in it. The boys were completely indistinguishable sociable. I was very upset. So they go. You're GONNA be fine. You're fine of course go. You're fine and we got in the car and I was so upset the way home when she she got home. A net. Put the baby's on the couch and stared at them at six weeks old. They didn't have distinct personalities yet. They weigh the same amount they had the same bald heads. No birthmarks marks. And I'm not kidding you. They looked exactly like and so I was thinking I was a really terrible mother. Than how can I really look at this and not see my own own children and not know which ones they are you know. She called me in a panic and She just said I. I'm I don't know what I'm GONNA do. I don't know which ones which I don't know what to do. This is the next best friend Linda. Wallace Atlanta is Jason and Randy. No her she lived in the same subdivision. Did you go over there to try to help her. Why couldn because she couldn't tell them apart? How would I be hip to tell them apart rights? I mean I didn't. I couldn't tell them apart. They she had the pens. Were you nervous to tell to Tell Dick renervous to tell you you were yes. I was really nervous so when he came home when he came the home and he saw them and they were in their crib and so finally I had to go. I have to tell you what happened. I told him and he goes really. He Goes Oh we'll figure it Out Let's see and then we were both lookie about them right next to each other. Of course they had the pampers on and nothing and he's going I don't know what do you think it is. I o'clock.

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"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

This American Life

02:18 min | 2 years ago

"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

"What do you? I think what happened if he instead that night he'd taken out your speech and read it. I think it would have lessened the chances that he would have been impeached. Really I don't know that it would have prevented the impeachment but I think it would have lessened the chances it's possible. His speech gets you to the same ending just with a slightly different plot after all there is a lot of momentum in Congress toward impeachment. But it's nice to contemplate a world where the leader of your country can stand up and acknowledge having made a mistake can acknowledged reality. An apology really is about the truth laying it out so we can all live in the same world together. It's impossible to imagine that happening now. Clinton seem closer to it at that moment but he's still couldn't do it. I wonder if all the possible universes in how many of them does Clinton Clinton say. I'm sorry you know not. I'm sorry for what happened or I'm sorry if people feel but really like I'm sorry there may be a a universe in which he did that. I'm just not aware of it because I don't live in it yeah Is that the one we live in. You want to know what I think. I think it's possible there is no I know. Universe in which President Clinton reads Bob. Trump's speech listening to the speech Clinton did give I kind of think he gives it in every possible universe. It was exactly how he felt. And the and the speech that you wrote while great was not at all how he was feeling at that moment I obviously the speech that I drafted did did not reflect how he felt coming out of the grand jury in that sense. Can you felt them up. I just think it you WanNa do what fits the moment and you want to be true to yourself. The problem was that I think he was true to the angry guy who had just come out of the room. You Know He. He was maybe not true to the person he was the next day. There are the US all the parallel worlds. But also the you on Thursday and the one on Friday the one who's had some time to think and some sleep and a sandwich for sure. Those are different different. People.

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"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

This American Life

02:18 min | 2 years ago

"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

"What do you? I think what happened if he instead that night he'd taken out your speech and read it. I think it would have lessened the chances that he would have been impeached. Really I don't know that it would have prevented the impeachment but I think it would have lessened the chances it's possible. His speech gets you to the same ending just with a slightly different plot after all there is a lot of momentum in Congress toward impeachment. But it's nice to contemplate a world where the leader of your country can stand up and acknowledge having made a mistake can acknowledged reality. An apology really is about the truth laying it out so we can all live in the same world together. It's impossible to imagine that happening now. Clinton seem closer to it at that moment but he's still couldn't do it. I wonder if all the possible universes in how many of them does Clinton Clinton say. I'm sorry you know not. I'm sorry for what happened or I'm sorry if people feel but really like I'm sorry there may be a a universe in which he did that. I'm just not aware of it because I don't live in it yeah Is that the one we live in. You want to know what I think. I think it's possible there is no I know. Universe in which President Clinton reads Bob. Trump's speech listening to the speech Clinton did give I kind of think he gives it in every possible universe. It was exactly how he felt. And the and the speech that you wrote while great was not at all how he was feeling at that moment I obviously the speech that I drafted did did not reflect how he felt coming out of the grand jury in that sense. Can you felt them up. I just think it you WanNa do what fits the moment and you want to be true to yourself. The problem was that I think he was true to the angry guy who had just come out of the room. You Know He. He was maybe not true to the person he was the next day. There are the US all the parallel worlds. But also the you on Thursday and the one on Friday the one who's had some time to think and some sleep and a sandwich for sure. Those are different different. People.

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"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

This American Life

09:26 min | 2 years ago

"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

"Two. Sorry not sorry to say this. But the moon landing that story of American triumph could've gone another way some other storyline from the multi verse Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin. They land on the moon walk around. It's great but then there's a problem them and they cannot take off to come home. That's thought this was most dangerous moment in the mission the most likely spot. It could fail when president. Richard Nixon's speechwriters William Safire. They're actually prepared a statement to be read in case. That was the way the story went at the top of the page. In all caps it read in the event of moon disaster for China China the speech fatal deigned the men who went to the moon to explore in peace will stay on the mood to rest in peace. Pretty Good David Kestler Bam. Has this next story about another presidential speech. Never delivered that asa feels like it's slipped into our world from the parallel universe. You can find this speech framed hanging in the guest bathroom Home California. Here's David the speech was to be read on the night of August Seventeenth Nineteen Ninety eight. It's in the House of Bob Shrum. Because he wrote it shrum was a longtime democratic political strategist speechwriter and get her out of tight spots are you. Are you personally good at apologizing. I've had to apologize so many times for so many things. Sure the most recent thing you apologize for Having a fight with my wife about what. We were giving various people as Christmas gifts. This story is about an apology. He wrote for a much bigger audience. That August one thousand nine hundred eighty eight shrum was on vacation in Idaho. Staying with some friends The phone rang. Why didn't have a cell phone then so somehow or other? Oh my office called called me and said Martin was trying to reach me. Mark is Mark Penn but at the time was conducting polls and advising the president of the United States. With the time was Bill Clinton at the time was a lot of hot water impeachment might very well be An option tampering with witnesses. Obstruction of justice are very very serious charges. A moment when one political party said they were very valid high crimes and misdemeanors. The other party said. That's ridiculous political posturing. Anyway there'd been stories in the press for months at this point. That Clinton might have had an affair with an intern. Monica Lewinsky Clinton denied it though under growth in a civil case and famously on television but I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman Miss Lewinsky but there was the dress with Clinton's DNA on it and recorded phone calls between Monica Lewinsky in a CO worker. Talking about the affair at the time Bob from the call President Clinton was finally going to have to testify before independent counsel. Ken Starr's grand jury. He'd have to own up to the affair and then afterwards say something to the nation but what that was what the phone call was about. Trump called Mark Penn back. who asked if you would take a shot at writing a speech for the president to be delivered on TV? Just after he gave his grand jury testimony it would be the president's chance to frame the whole thing maybe finally put it away and prevent the Republicans from starting impeachment proceedings. The country would be watching. Bob Trump said okay. He hung up the phone and told his wife and the couple they were staying with on vacation. What the assignment was one of the people? There said this better be good. Meaning you better do a good job. Yes so I sat at the dining room table and I I wrote in Longhand on a yellow pad which is how I've always written by drafted it. What he wrote was a straight up direct apology policy Do you have with you I. It's on it's on. Well actually I can go get it. You WanNa hold on for second. Trump went to go get it from where it was hanging in what he calls the guest powder room and to be clear. There's other political memorabilia in there. It's a speech he's proud of. Can you read the speech for me. It's not very long so I will my fellow Americans. No one who is not in my position can understand fully the remorse. I feel today day since I was very young. I have had a profound reverence for this office I hold. I've been honored that you the people have entrusted to me. I am proud of what we have accomplished together. But in this case I have fallen short of what you should expect from a president. I have failed my own religious logist faith and values. I have let too many people down. I take full responsibility for my actions for hurting my wife and daughter for hurting Monica Lewinsky and her family for hurting friends and staff and for hurting the country I love. None of this ever should have happened and he has Clinton apologizing from misleading people about the affair and this is how it ends. Finally I also want to apologize to all of you my fellow citizens. I hope that you can find find it in your heart to accept my apology. I pledge to you that I will make every effort a mind and spirit to earn your confidence again to be worthy of this office. I need to finish the work on which we've made such remarkable progress in the past six years. God bless you and good night has fueled reading that I I mean I remember writing it. I thought it was the right thing for him to say and when I hear it now I still think it's the right thing for him to say it's notable that trump had the president apologizing to Monica Lewinsky in her family at the time. Charles Rangel the Democratic Congressman from New York called her quote a young tramp. She was the subject of jokes on late night. Television Bill Maher said I think Monica Lewinsky is the one who should apologize apologize to America. No one seemed to be thinking about her as a person his life was now. Eric trump was well. I I mean. She was an intern kid in the White House and I thought that that made every bit of sense in the world shrum set the speech into the White House and then the day arrived Clinton gave his grand jury testimony which was not broadcast that evening. The president went on TV to give his speech. Shrum sat down with the rest of the country to watch it. We were just sitting around in the living room watching it on television and at that point of view. Maybe he's going to read my speech. Sure I thought he I thought he might very well Bill Clinton who I worked with on like state. The union messages. Never exactly reads what you send him so. I didn't anticipate that it would be necessarily word for word what I had sent. But I thought it might be. Pretty close to it it was almost diametrically the opposite good evening this afternoon in this room from this chair chair. I testified before the office of independent counsel and the grand jury I answered their questions truthfully including questions about my private life questions. No American citizen would ever want to answer. I not only remember hearing the first words but I remember the look. Look on his face. he was really really angry. It's the private Bill Clinton who could get angry and I have seen him angry but I don't think the country had seen him angry very often as you know in a deposition in January. I was asked questions about my relationship with Monica Lewinsky while my answers were legally really accurate I did not volunteer information. Indeed I did have a relationship with Miss Lewinsky that was not appropriate. In fact it it was wrong. It constituted critical lapse in judgment and a personal failure on my part for which I am solely incompletely responsible their armaments armaments of apology in there and feel like honest reflection like when he straight up admits the reasons he had been so evasive. Until then I can only tell you I was motivated you by many factors. I buy desire to protect myself from the embarrassment of my own conduct but the overall message is not. I'm sorry I screwed up. He seems to be saying but the real problem is the fact that I'm having to talk about this at all. It's a private family matter. It's nobody's business but hours even presidents have private lives. He closes out by asking for forgiveness as trump advised by by asking people to stop talking and so tonight I asked you to turn away from the spectacle of the past seven months to repair the fabric of our national national discourse and to turn our attention to all the challenges and all the promise of the next American Century. Thank you for watching.

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"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

This American Life

09:26 min | 2 years ago

"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

"Two. Sorry not sorry to say this. But the moon landing that story of American triumph could've gone another way some other storyline from the multi verse Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin. They land on the moon walk around. It's great but then there's a problem them and they cannot take off to come home. That's thought this was most dangerous moment in the mission the most likely spot. It could fail when president. Richard Nixon's speechwriters William Safire. They're actually prepared a statement to be read in case. That was the way the story went at the top of the page. In all caps it read in the event of moon disaster for China China the speech fatal deigned the men who went to the moon to explore in peace will stay on the mood to rest in peace. Pretty Good David Kestler Bam. Has this next story about another presidential speech. Never delivered that asa feels like it's slipped into our world from the parallel universe. You can find this speech framed hanging in the guest bathroom Home California. Here's David the speech was to be read on the night of August Seventeenth Nineteen Ninety eight. It's in the House of Bob Shrum. Because he wrote it shrum was a longtime democratic political strategist speechwriter and get her out of tight spots are you. Are you personally good at apologizing. I've had to apologize so many times for so many things. Sure the most recent thing you apologize for Having a fight with my wife about what. We were giving various people as Christmas gifts. This story is about an apology. He wrote for a much bigger audience. That August one thousand nine hundred eighty eight shrum was on vacation in Idaho. Staying with some friends The phone rang. Why didn't have a cell phone then so somehow or other? Oh my office called called me and said Martin was trying to reach me. Mark is Mark Penn but at the time was conducting polls and advising the president of the United States. With the time was Bill Clinton at the time was a lot of hot water impeachment might very well be An option tampering with witnesses. Obstruction of justice are very very serious charges. A moment when one political party said they were very valid high crimes and misdemeanors. The other party said. That's ridiculous political posturing. Anyway there'd been stories in the press for months at this point. That Clinton might have had an affair with an intern. Monica Lewinsky Clinton denied it though under growth in a civil case and famously on television but I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman Miss Lewinsky but there was the dress with Clinton's DNA on it and recorded phone calls between Monica Lewinsky in a CO worker. Talking about the affair at the time Bob from the call President Clinton was finally going to have to testify before independent counsel. Ken Starr's grand jury. He'd have to own up to the affair and then afterwards say something to the nation but what that was what the phone call was about. Trump called Mark Penn back. who asked if you would take a shot at writing a speech for the president to be delivered on TV? Just after he gave his grand jury testimony it would be the president's chance to frame the whole thing maybe finally put it away and prevent the Republicans from starting impeachment proceedings. The country would be watching. Bob Trump said okay. He hung up the phone and told his wife and the couple they were staying with on vacation. What the assignment was one of the people? There said this better be good. Meaning you better do a good job. Yes so I sat at the dining room table and I I wrote in Longhand on a yellow pad which is how I've always written by drafted it. What he wrote was a straight up direct apology policy Do you have with you I. It's on it's on. Well actually I can go get it. You WanNa hold on for second. Trump went to go get it from where it was hanging in what he calls the guest powder room and to be clear. There's other political memorabilia in there. It's a speech he's proud of. Can you read the speech for me. It's not very long so I will my fellow Americans. No one who is not in my position can understand fully the remorse. I feel today day since I was very young. I have had a profound reverence for this office I hold. I've been honored that you the people have entrusted to me. I am proud of what we have accomplished together. But in this case I have fallen short of what you should expect from a president. I have failed my own religious logist faith and values. I have let too many people down. I take full responsibility for my actions for hurting my wife and daughter for hurting Monica Lewinsky and her family for hurting friends and staff and for hurting the country I love. None of this ever should have happened and he has Clinton apologizing from misleading people about the affair and this is how it ends. Finally I also want to apologize to all of you my fellow citizens. I hope that you can find find it in your heart to accept my apology. I pledge to you that I will make every effort a mind and spirit to earn your confidence again to be worthy of this office. I need to finish the work on which we've made such remarkable progress in the past six years. God bless you and good night has fueled reading that I I mean I remember writing it. I thought it was the right thing for him to say and when I hear it now I still think it's the right thing for him to say it's notable that trump had the president apologizing to Monica Lewinsky in her family at the time. Charles Rangel the Democratic Congressman from New York called her quote a young tramp. She was the subject of jokes on late night. Television Bill Maher said I think Monica Lewinsky is the one who should apologize apologize to America. No one seemed to be thinking about her as a person his life was now. Eric trump was well. I I mean. She was an intern kid in the White House and I thought that that made every bit of sense in the world shrum set the speech into the White House and then the day arrived Clinton gave his grand jury testimony which was not broadcast that evening. The president went on TV to give his speech. Shrum sat down with the rest of the country to watch it. We were just sitting around in the living room watching it on television and at that point of view. Maybe he's going to read my speech. Sure I thought he I thought he might very well Bill Clinton who I worked with on like state. The union messages. Never exactly reads what you send him so. I didn't anticipate that it would be necessarily word for word what I had sent. But I thought it might be. Pretty close to it it was almost diametrically the opposite good evening this afternoon in this room from this chair chair. I testified before the office of independent counsel and the grand jury I answered their questions truthfully including questions about my private life questions. No American citizen would ever want to answer. I not only remember hearing the first words but I remember the look. Look on his face. he was really really angry. It's the private Bill Clinton who could get angry and I have seen him angry but I don't think the country had seen him angry very often as you know in a deposition in January. I was asked questions about my relationship with Monica Lewinsky while my answers were legally really accurate I did not volunteer information. Indeed I did have a relationship with Miss Lewinsky that was not appropriate. In fact it it was wrong. It constituted critical lapse in judgment and a personal failure on my part for which I am solely incompletely responsible their armaments armaments of apology in there and feel like honest reflection like when he straight up admits the reasons he had been so evasive. Until then I can only tell you I was motivated you by many factors. I buy desire to protect myself from the embarrassment of my own conduct but the overall message is not. I'm sorry I screwed up. He seems to be saying but the real problem is the fact that I'm having to talk about this at all. It's a private family matter. It's nobody's business but hours even presidents have private lives. He closes out by asking for forgiveness as trump advised by by asking people to stop talking and so tonight I asked you to turn away from the spectacle of the past seven months to repair the fabric of our national national discourse and to turn our attention to all the challenges and all the promise of the next American Century. Thank you for watching.

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"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

This American Life

07:45 min | 2 years ago

"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

"James and my father so emailing with fiction writer that we have in our show sometimes at car carrot about today's theme and he told me that his father used to spend a lot of time imagining worlds. Like we're talking about in today's program parallel words to ours that are almost the same as is our world but not quite and he said his father did this starting during World War Two who is otherwise fourteen living in Poland. He's Jewish when the Germans invaded and started sending Jews to the concentration camps dino during the second world war a humidity spiracy Z.. He he didn't in a hole in the Ground Zero Doug for six hundred and twenty days so we did a lot of spare time and when he was there he would imagine all kinds of things he would imagine in a word in which the Nazis didn't exist or in which he wasn't a Jew or which people just generated include each other you know and in this kind of thing something associated with being a child then he kind of felt it interested him as a child since I'm I blue probate Iq to back during the words. Father couldn't leave that whole for two years and not to headquarters was right there. Near the whole on the same property a Christian farmer primer in his eighties would bring them food and all that buckets of urine couldn't even talk. Go Out of time at our magic. It was like two years of meditation my the way that you would talk about his time in the whole he would say that he he would sleep and then he would wake up with his father. If the war was over and his father they would say no so we would go and steep some more. That's the way he would tell to me. I think he just kind of the software version and was like when you hold. Could they even stand. Stand up no as couldn't stand in it and is he couldn't even lie down and they had to sit in it and when Russian liberated today the town and is brought out the head to be carried out because you know is their muscles were so cramped. Zig is by the time at the end of the war. moves them. Oh my God so basically. They're in this whole and they're sitting sitting there. Yes yes and you know any. It's it's very very cold in which way a bulent freezing and don't have food and and you hear voices in German and you know that you know that you can easily be killed and you close your eyes in Fingal. Another universe cars lots of fiction that imagine parallel worlds various kinds. And when asked so if you want to do something for today's show he wrote this story a true story the starts when he was a kid. When I was six years old my dad worked to boost Nakba not far from one of the beaches? Every day it's five thirty. In the morning he leave home for the pool. Swim two kilometers showing the locker room and get to work. Get home tonight. Fourteen hours a day seven days a week. Unloading boxes of soft drinks pressing toasted sandwiches bring coughing gleaming glasses deposed snack bar by the beach. US later dead always said those were the best days of his life. Funds Remembering how disodium blowing coming in from the sea would make his lungs. We dismantled the coffee and imported cigarettes. Used to sell it the bomb coffee cigarettes and the sea. We're always my father's free favorite things for me those days. We're not quite as happy. When Dad came back from work I was already in bed and other than Saturdays when I'd go to visit him at the pool with my mom I never saw him tour now? Just bitter about this a six year. Old Children can't imagine a different word for themselves was their father. Had more time for them accept reality as he tees and yet I missed him dearly seeing these my mother suggested always every morning to the pool. Heavy swim together under and take a kid to school from there. I don't remember anything of those morning swims but the car rides dead a crystal clear doc. is we see now. Suva visual five zero four. The windows rolled down that smoking kept one hundred and describing parallel universes that exist at this very moment in other dimensions any versus where everything is precisely identical to ours. Same road same traffic light. Same secret in the corner of Dad's mouths all except for one tiny difference and this difference that would change every morning morning. Changing the one in the universe. The differed from ours she. We are in the parallel universe waiting. Exact same same into section for the light to change on in this universe instead of receivers. Yo where riding dragon. and He's another one. We're under my faded sweatpants ideals which had only to resent water. That could fish when I was nine. He no longer had to get up early in the morning. And we all have dinner together and watch the nightly news. I was twenty two by the time I moved out of my parent's house but they still made true to visit Twice a week and on Saturdays I swing was dead at the boo where he once worked. When I was forty the free my father was diagnosed with cancer? It was tongue cancer. The result of fifty years of smoking by the time doctors caught on and it was attended advanced stage as we never spoke about it. It was obvious to us. Boys did soon he was going to die on Mondays. I mean for his physical therapy and as we said in the waiting room to see the physical therapist with the British accent. My father's sometimes Steve talked about parallel universes or everything was exactly the same as ours. Save for one difference say the dogs could speak or is it. People could read minds or the sky was perper and when demille quite clouds floated across state said look tasting tweet at the end of every session. The physical therapy would show me how to hold my arm when we worked together. And what is she doing case. He lost his on a way home as we approached corner of King Solomon and those dead would always do you smell that he'd say important to the new cafe cornyn just by the smell I can tell you. That's the best caffine tongue. mm-hmm stages illness the tongue. Cancer was so advanced. Father could no longer eat drink instead. He got all his food and liquids fruit clear plastic tube straight to his stomach.

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"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

This American Life

07:45 min | 2 years ago

"gardens" Discussed on This American Life

"James and my father so emailing with fiction writer that we have in our show sometimes at car carrot about today's theme and he told me that his father used to spend a lot of time imagining worlds. Like we're talking about in today's program parallel words to ours that are almost the same as is our world but not quite and he said his father did this starting during World War Two who is otherwise fourteen living in Poland. He's Jewish when the Germans invaded and started sending Jews to the concentration camps dino during the second world war a humidity spiracy Z.. He he didn't in a hole in the Ground Zero Doug for six hundred and twenty days so we did a lot of spare time and when he was there he would imagine all kinds of things he would imagine in a word in which the Nazis didn't exist or in which he wasn't a Jew or which people just generated include each other you know and in this kind of thing something associated with being a child then he kind of felt it interested him as a child since I'm I blue probate Iq to back during the words. Father couldn't leave that whole for two years and not to headquarters was right there. Near the whole on the same property a Christian farmer primer in his eighties would bring them food and all that buckets of urine couldn't even talk. Go Out of time at our magic. It was like two years of meditation my the way that you would talk about his time in the whole he would say that he he would sleep and then he would wake up with his father. If the war was over and his father they would say no so we would go and steep some more. That's the way he would tell to me. I think he just kind of the software version and was like when you hold. Could they even stand. Stand up no as couldn't stand in it and is he couldn't even lie down and they had to sit in it and when Russian liberated today the town and is brought out the head to be carried out because you know is their muscles were so cramped. Zig is by the time at the end of the war. moves them. Oh my God so basically. They're in this whole and they're sitting sitting there. Yes yes and you know any. It's it's very very cold in which way a bulent freezing and don't have food and and you hear voices in German and you know that you know that you can easily be killed and you close your eyes in Fingal. Another universe cars lots of fiction that imagine parallel worlds various kinds. And when asked so if you want to do something for today's show he wrote this story a true story the starts when he was a kid. When I was six years old my dad worked to boost Nakba not far from one of the beaches? Every day it's five thirty. In the morning he leave home for the pool. Swim two kilometers showing the locker room and get to work. Get home tonight. Fourteen hours a day seven days a week. Unloading boxes of soft drinks pressing toasted sandwiches bring coughing gleaming glasses deposed snack bar by the beach. US later dead always said those were the best days of his life. Funds Remembering how disodium blowing coming in from the sea would make his lungs. We dismantled the coffee and imported cigarettes. Used to sell it the bomb coffee cigarettes and the sea. We're always my father's free favorite things for me those days. We're not quite as happy. When Dad came back from work I was already in bed and other than Saturdays when I'd go to visit him at the pool with my mom I never saw him tour now? Just bitter about this a six year. Old Children can't imagine a different word for themselves was their father. Had more time for them accept reality as he tees and yet I missed him dearly seeing these my mother suggested always every morning to the pool. Heavy swim together under and take a kid to school from there. I don't remember anything of those morning swims but the car rides dead a crystal clear doc. is we see now. Suva visual five zero four. The windows rolled down that smoking kept one hundred and describing parallel universes that exist at this very moment in other dimensions any versus where everything is precisely identical to ours. Same road same traffic light. Same secret in the corner of Dad's mouths all except for one tiny difference and this difference that would change every morning morning. Changing the one in the universe. The differed from ours she. We are in the parallel universe waiting. Exact same same into section for the light to change on in this universe instead of receivers. Yo where riding dragon. and He's another one. We're under my faded sweatpants ideals which had only to resent water. That could fish when I was nine. He no longer had to get up early in the morning. And we all have dinner together and watch the nightly news. I was twenty two by the time I moved out of my parent's house but they still made true to visit Twice a week and on Saturdays I swing was dead at the boo where he once worked. When I was forty the free my father was diagnosed with cancer? It was tongue cancer. The result of fifty years of smoking by the time doctors caught on and it was attended advanced stage as we never spoke about it. It was obvious to us. Boys did soon he was going to die on Mondays. I mean for his physical therapy and as we said in the waiting room to see the physical therapist with the British accent. My father's sometimes Steve talked about parallel universes or everything was exactly the same as ours. Save for one difference say the dogs could speak or is it. People could read minds or the sky was perper and when demille quite clouds floated across state said look tasting tweet at the end of every session. The physical therapy would show me how to hold my arm when we worked together. And what is she doing case. He lost his on a way home as we approached corner of King Solomon and those dead would always do you smell that he'd say important to the new cafe cornyn just by the smell I can tell you. That's the best caffine tongue. mm-hmm stages illness the tongue. Cancer was so advanced. Father could no longer eat drink instead. He got all his food and liquids fruit clear plastic tube straight to his stomach.

Cancer tongue cancer Poland writer James Zig Fingal King Solomon demille Suva cornyn Steve